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Best podcasts about patrick mcgee

Latest podcast episodes about patrick mcgee

The Mentors Radio Show
433. How China Captured Apple, with Patrick McGee and Host Dan Hesse

The Mentors Radio Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2025 42:38


In this episode of THE MENTORS RADIO, Host Dan Hesse talks with Patrick McGee, author of the best-selling book Apple in China, who tells a riveting story about how Apple almost single-handedly built the advanced electronics industry in China only to find itself trapped in a relationship with an authoritarian state making ever-increasing demands, and giving Beijing power that could be weaponized. Even though China's immense domestic market is hard to resist, this is a cautionary tale for listeners thinking about doing business in China and helps explain how China made progress competing against American tech companies so quickly.   Patrick was the Financial Times' principal Apple reporter from 2019 to 2023, where he won a San Francisco Press Club Award for his coverage. He joined the newspaper in 2013, in Hong Kong, before reporting from Germany and California. Previously, he was a bond reporter at The Wall Street Journal. He has a master's degree in global diplomacy from SOAS at the University of London, and a degree in religious studies from the University of Toronto.  Listen to THE MENTORS RADIO podcast anywhere, any time, on any platform, including Spotify and Apple, just click here! SHOW NOTES: PATRICK McGEE: BIO: https://patrick-mcgee.com/#card-8xuph49kjpjo2xo BOOK: Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company, by Patrick McGee WEBSITE: https://patrick-mcgee.com/

The CGAI Podcast Network
How the G7 Should Think About LNG

The CGAI Podcast Network

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2025 60:11


On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan talk with Kathleen Gnocato and Shaz Merwat about the role of Canadian LNG in diplomacy around the G7. You can find their report for RBC Thought Leadership here: https://www.rbc.com/en/thought-leadership/the-growth-project/a-g7-strategy-for-natural-gas-four-scenarios-for-energy-security-in-the-2040s/ // Guest Bio: - Kathleen Gnocato is the LNG Research Initiative Lead, Independent Consultant for RBC Thought Leadership - Shaz Merwat is Energy Policy Lead for RBC's Climate Action Institute // Host Bio: - Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute - Joe Calnan is VP, Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute // Reading recommendations: - "From the Ashes: My Story of Being Métis, Homeless, and Finding My Way", by Jesse Thistle: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/From-the-Ashes/Jesse-Thistle/9781982101213 - "Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company", by Patrick McGee: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Apple-in-China/Patrick-McGee/9781668053379 // Interview recording Date: July 2, 2025 // Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary. // Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

China Unscripted
The Real Story Behind 1,000s of Fake Apple Stores in China

China Unscripted

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2025 11:45


Watch the full podcast here! https://chinauncensored.tv/programs/podcast-301 Apple changed China in a way that was not only bad for the Chinese people, but may have destroyed the West. Joining us today is Patrick McGee. He was the Financial Times's principal Apple reporter for four years, and now he's out with a fascinating new book, Apple in China. And check out our other channel, China Uncensored: https://www.youtube.com/ChinaUncensored Our social media: X: https://www.x.com/ChinaUncensored Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChinaUncensored Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ChinaUncensored #China

China Unscripted
Why Apple Just Gave Their Tech to China

China Unscripted

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2025 11:26


Watch the full podcast here! https://chinauncensored.tv/programs/podcast-301 Apple changed China in a way that was not only bad for the Chinese people, but may have destroyed the West. Joining us today is Patrick McGee. He was the Financial Times's principal Apple reporter for four years, and now he's out with a fascinating new book, Apple in China. And check out our other channel, China Uncensored: https://www.youtube.com/ChinaUncensored Our social media: X: https://www.x.com/ChinaUncensored Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChinaUncensored Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ChinaUncensored #China

The CGAI Podcast Network

On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Patrick McGee to explore the origins of Apple and examine China's pivotal role in building the global empire it has become, in his new book, Apple in China. // Participants' bios Patrick McGee is a NYT best selling author and San Francisco Correspondent at the Financial Times. // Host bio: Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. // Reading Recommendations: - "Apple in China" by Patrick McGee. - // Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll // Recording Date: June 27, 2025 Release date: July 7, 2025

POLITICO Dispatch
Apple's China dilemma

POLITICO Dispatch

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2025 26:19


Patrick McGee has written the definitive book on how Apple supercharged China's development into a global manufacturing colossus and leveraged its relationship with Beijing to become one of the most iconic consumer tech brands in history. Now, the author of “Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company” joins POLITICO Tech guest host Phelim Kine to break down how Apple's reliance on China has become a toxic codependency that has trapped the company at the center of U.S.-China trade tensions that have upended a decades-old business model hinged on a “Made in China” export production model. Phelim Kine is POLITICO's DC-based China and Indo-Pacific Affairs correspondent. Nirmal Mulaikal is the co-host and producer of POLITICO Energy and producer of POLITICO Tech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

China Unscripted
Apple Did WAY WORSE Things in China...

China Unscripted

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2025 10:08


Watch the full podcast here! https://chinauncensored.tv/programs/podcast-301 Apple changed China in a way that was not only bad for the Chinese people, but may have destroyed the West. Joining us today is Patrick McGee. He was the Financial Times's principal Apple reporter for four years, and now he's out with a fascinating new book, Apple in China. And check out our other channel, China Uncensored: https://www.youtube.com/ChinaUncensored Our social media: X: https://www.x.com/ChinaUncensored Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChinaUncensored Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ChinaUncensored #China

Curious Worldview Podcast
Pat McGee | Apple's Insane, Historic, Never To Be Repeated Investment In China

Curious Worldview Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2025 71:13


Pat McGee - Apple in ChinaCurious Worldview Newsletter - https://curiousworldview.beehiiv.com/subscribe-----Each year, Apple sells more than 100 million unit's of it's various products, with some factories capable of producing up to 500,000 iPhones (alone) per day. This scale of quality and quantity is not replicated anywhere else in history. And it's all down to the special and unique relationship between one of the world's largest hardware companies, Apple and the worlds largest manufacturer, China. Pat McGee wrote the book on this... 'Apple in China', and joins me for a discussion which explores the intricate relationship between Apple and China's manufacturing landscape. Tim Cook's pivotal role, the challenges of relying on China for production, and the unique conditions that have allowed China to dominate the manufacturing sector. Pat reflects on the geopolitical implications of Apple's strategy and the serendipitous nature of his writing process, culminating in a discussion about the future of industrial statecraft and the lessons learned from Apple's experience.00:00: Pat McGee02:52: Tim Cook's Role in Apple's Success in China06:00: Apple's Reliance on China and Its Vulnerabilities12:12: The Scale of Apple's Manufacturing and Its Implications18:12: Foxcon & Terry Gou24:03: China's Manufacturing Strategy and Apple's Role29:59: China's Ambitions and Apple's Unintentional Consequences39:50: The Journey of Writing The Book44:05: Leaning Into Serendipity51:31: The Impact of Apple's Industrial Strategy58:59: Geopolitical Implications of China's Manufacturing01:08:02: Doing Jon Stewart!

Saturday Morning with Jack Tame
Catherine Raynes: Apple in China and The Good Father

Saturday Morning with Jack Tame

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2025 4:56 Transcription Available


Apple in China by Patrick McGee After struggling to build its products on three continents, Apple was lured by China's seemingly inexhaustible supply of cheap labor. Soon it was sending thousands of engineers across the Pacific, training millions of workers, and spending hundreds of billions of dollars to create the world's most sophisticated supply chain. These capabilities enabled Apple to build the 21st century's most iconic products—in staggering volume and for enormous profit. Without explicitly intending to, Apple built an advanced electronics industry within China, only to discover that its massive investments in technology upgrades had inadvertently given Beijing a power that could be weaponized. In Apple in China, journalist Patrick McGee draws on more than two hundred interviews with former executives and engineers, supplementing their stories with unreported meetings held by Steve Jobs, emails between top executives, and internal memos regarding threats from Chinese competition. The book highlights the unknown characters who were instrumental in Apple's ascent and who tried to forge a different path, including the Mormon missionary who established the Apple Store in China; the “Gang of Eight” executives tasked with placating Beijing; and an idealistic veteran whose hopes of improving the lives of factory workers were crushed by both Cupertino's operational demands and Xi Jinping's war on civil society. Apple in China is the sometimes disturbing and always revelatory story of how an outspoken, proud company that once praised “rebels” and “troublemakers”—the company that encouraged us all to “Think Different”—devolved into passively cooperating with a belligerent regime that increasingly controls its fate. The Good Father by Liam McIlvanney Gordon and Sarah Rutherford are normal, happy people with successful fulfilling lives. A son they adore, a house on the beach, a safe, friendly and honest community in a picture-postcard town on the Ayrshire coast. Until one day Bonnie the lab comes in from the beach alone. Their son Rory has just gone - the only trace left is a single black Adidas slider. Their lives don't fall apart immediately - while there's still hope (and no body) they can dig deep and try to carry on. Rather it's a process of abrasion, a wearing away of that happiness and normality; a slow degradation, a gradual breakdown - until they'll never be the people they were before. This sort of tragedy impacts a whole town - does the community still feel the same after? What are folk saying about you? Who are your friends? Who can you trust? When the worst thing has happened and you've lost everything, you either go under or you rebuild, start again. What could be worse than your child disappearing? LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Trade Splaining
Ep. 80: The (new) New Trade Policy, AI and How Apple Helped Build Modern China ft. Patrick McGee of the FT

Trade Splaining

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2025 48:28


In Episode 80 of Trade Splaining, we're pulling back the curtain on everything from secret sausage wars to how Apple helped build modern China. Along the way, we break down the increasingly blurry line between trade policy and geopolitics, why AI is now after your desk job, and how sober tailgates and millennial nostalgia are the new macro indicators. Special Guest: Patrick McGee, FT journalist and author of Apple in China, joins us to explain: Why Apple didn't just outsource manufacturing to China—it helped build it How a $55B investment strategy turned into a Marshall Plan for advanced manufacturing Why decoupling is harder than we think, and what it means for the future of globalization Also in this episode: Is trade policy dead—or just dressed up as national security? The AI job shock: not just repetitive tasks, but white-collar jobs too A big new EU–Switzerland trade deal (and an even bigger name: “The Bilaterals”) Listener feedback, airline mysteries, stolen sausage secrets, and the return of All-American Rejects

ChinaTalk
Apple in China

ChinaTalk

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 70:49


Patrick McGee is the author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. Our discussion led us through a detailed history of Apple's relationship with China, where iPhone manufacturing became a project of nation-building. Cohosting today is Kyle Chan of the High Capacity Substack. Today, our conversation covers: Why Apple moved production to China in the 1990s, and why it struggles to leave, How Apple's obsession with perfection catalyzed China's industrial upgrading, The political side of production in China, including how Apple's relationship with the Chinese authorities has evolved over time, The rise of Foxconn and other partners in Apple's network, Fun anecdotes about Apple's management style, including the “Divorce Avoidance Program.” Read ChinaTalk's article China's AR glasses market here. Outro music: Apple Blossom — The White Stripes (YouTube Link) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ChinaEconTalk
Apple in China

ChinaEconTalk

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 70:49


Patrick McGee is the author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. Our discussion led us through a detailed history of Apple's relationship with China, where iPhone manufacturing became a project of nation-building. Cohosting today is Kyle Chan of the High Capacity Substack. Today, our conversation covers: Why Apple moved production to China in the 1990s, and why it struggles to leave, How Apple's obsession with perfection catalyzed China's industrial upgrading, The political side of production in China, including how Apple's relationship with the Chinese authorities has evolved over time, The rise of Foxconn and other partners in Apple's network, Fun anecdotes about Apple's management style, including the “Divorce Avoidance Program.” Read ChinaTalk's article China's AR glasses market here. Outro music: Apple Blossom — The White Stripes (YouTube Link) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Analyse Asia with Bernard Leong
How Apple Accidentally Built China's Tech Superpower and Can't Escape with Patrick McGee

Analyse Asia with Bernard Leong

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 60:33


"I quote a study that looked at  84 countries in terms of internal migration and India was dead last. That's not a knock against the culture. It's just not part of the culture that young women in particular leave home at 17, go to the other side of the country and work in a factory. You don't have that. So what's the phrase: Culture eats strategy for breakfast. Apple might have a plan, but  like good luck upending 5,000 years of Indian culture to make it happen." - Patrick McGee, author of "Apple in China" Fresh out of the studio, Patrick McGee, San Francisco correspondent for the Financial Times and author of "Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company" joined us in a conversation to unravel the extraordinary story of how the world's most valuable company became inextricably entangled with China. Patrick shared the backstory behind Apple's century-defining Faustian bargain and progressed through how he uncovered the untold story of Asia's contract manufacturing history through Apple's supply chain point of view. He unpacks the famous "Apple Squeeze" philosophy of paying suppliers minimally while providing invaluable training, and shares fascinating stories from characters like the ruthless negotiator Tony Blevins to the tragic figure of Jackie Haynes. Throughout the conversation, Patrick demonstrates how Apple inadvertently created China's contract manufacturing capabilities and explains why the company's current attempts to diversify to India face insurmountable cultural and political barriers. Last but not least, he argues that Apple's very success in China has become its greatest vulnerability, trapped in a relationship where going too fast risks Beijing's ire, while going too slow means remaining stuck in an increasingly untenable position. Episode Highlights: [00:03] Quote of the Day by Patrick McGee [01:00] Introduction: Patrick McGee, author of "Apple in China" [03:12] Lessons from Patrick's Career Journey [05:13] March 15, 2013: Xi Jinping's political awakening - Apple's first "oh shit moment" in China, just 12 hours after his inauguration [10:25] Apple's manufacturing DNA - why they control supply chains differently than other tech companies [12:09] The secret pyramid: ID → PD → MD - how Apple's industrial design gets translated into manufacturing reality [16:11] Terry Gou's legendary call: "I can fix this" - the moment Foxconn became Apple's key manufacturing partner [19:38] OEM vs ODM strategy: Why Terry Gou chose to never compete with clients, focusing on vertical integration instead [25:00] Tony Blevins' ruthless negotiations: "We don't have time for you to read the contract. You just need to sign it now" [26:45] The "Apple Squeeze" revealed: "We won't pay you much, but the experience will be invaluable" [28:27] Staggering impact: Apple trained 28 million people - greater than California's labor force, 6x Singapore's population [34:03] The Gang of Eight: Apple's first senior team living in China to navigate political pressures [41:45] Chinese dominance: Huawei, Xiaomi, and others now control 55% of global smartphone market share [48:08] Apple's double whammy: Supply Chain locked in China and TSMC [52:37] Apple's impossible balancing act in India: "Go too fast, risk Beijing's ire. Go too slow, remain stuck" [53:11] Jackie Haynes tragedy: Apple's failed attempt to improve worker conditions caught between operational demands and Xi Jinping's crackdown [57:09] Closing Profile: Patrick McGee, Author of "Apple in China": https://appleinchina.com and San Francisco correspondent for Financial Times LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prmcgee/ Podcast Information: Bernard Leong hosts and produces the show. The proper credits for the intro and end music are "Energetic Sports Drive." G. Thomas Craig mixed and edited the episode in both video and audio format. Here are the links to watch or listen to our podcast. Analyse Asia Main Site: https://analyse.asia Analyse Asia Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1kkRwzRZa4JCICr2vm0vGl Analyse Asia Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/analyse-asia-with-bernard-leong/id914868245 Analyse Asia YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Analys1eAsia Analyse Asia LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/analyse-asia/ Analyse Asia X (formerly known as Twitter): https://twitter.com/analyseasia Analyse Asia Threads: https://www.threads.net/@analyseasia Sign Up for Our This Week in Asia Newsletter: https://www.analyse.asia/#/portal/signup Subscribe Newsletter on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7149559878934540288

Books and Insight with Frank Lavin
Patrick McGee, Author of “Apple in China”

Books and Insight with Frank Lavin

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2025 25:30


Frank Lavin talks with Patrick McGee, the author of “Apple in China” and discusses how Apple came to enjoy enormous success in China and eventually came to pay a price for that success, which Patrick terms “Faustian.” It is a fascinating book that encompasses some of the more important themes in the world today, including Globalization, the rise of China, tech policy, and supply chains. Patrick suggest also reading “The Maniac” by Benjamin Labatut.

The Lost Debate
Iran War, Tucker v. Cruz, Apple in China

The Lost Debate

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2025 71:44


Are Israel and Iran on the brink of war? Ravi takes a closer look at the rapidly escalating conflict and the unsettling possibility that the U.S. is more deeply involved than most Americans realize. He also explores the growing battle within MAGA over America's role on the global stage, the political opportunism accompanying the recent wave of political violence, and how the Trump administration's threats to ramp up deportation efforts could upend key industries that rely on undocumented workers. Patrick McGee then joins Ravi to discuss his new book Apple in China, a sweeping investigation into Apple's entanglement with the Chinese state. They discuss how one of the world's most powerful companies may have supercharged America's biggest geopolitical rival and what that means for the future of geopolitics, tech, and our iPhones. Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 321-200-0570 Learn more about Ravi's novel: GARBAGE TOWN --- Follow Ravi at @ravimgupta Follow The Branch at @thebranchmedia Notes from this episode are available on Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Lost Debate is available on the following platforms:  • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7xR9pch9DrQDiZfGB5oF0F • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LostDebate • Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vTERJNTc1ODE3Mzk3Nw  • iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-lost-debate-88330217/ • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/752ca262-2801-466d-9654-2024de72bd1f/the-lost-debate

ManifoldOne
Patrick McGee: Apple In China — #88

ManifoldOne

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2025 59:33


Patrick McGee is a longtime FT business reporter with extensive experience reporting on China. He is the author of the highly acclaimed Apple in China: the capture of the world's greatest company. Steve and Patrick discuss the history of Apple and its impact on technology development in China. “The best book about Apple ever written, one of the best books about China ever written, and one of the best books about tech, period.” —Ben Thompson, Stratechery. Apple in China on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Apple-China-Capture-Greatest-Company/dp/1668053373(00:00) - Introduction to Patrick McGee and his Book (03:05) - The Apple-Foxconn Partnership (07:07) - China's Industrial Transformation and Apple's Role (32:48) - Automation Challenges in Apple's Production (34:50) - Chinese Innovation and Huawei's Rise (36:15) - The Impact of US-China Trade Tensions (38:08) - Apple's Internal Struggles and Future Outlook (48:56) - Hidden gems in the book Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.–Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SuperFocus.ai, SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU. Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on X @hsu_steve.

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Inside Apple's China: Secrets, Supply Chains, and Geopolitics with Patrick McGee

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2025 45:17


In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman interview Patrick McGee, a former Financial Times reporter and author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. The discussion delves into McGee's book, which explores Apple's transformative relationship with China, its massive investments, and the unintended consequences for global tech and geopolitics. The interview covers McGee's research process, Apple's control over its narrative, the scale of its investments in China, and the broader implications for manufacturing, workforce development and U.S.-China relations. Timeline Just give me the main bullet points, without the Key Points and Key Points McGee's Background (00:29–02:08): McGee's Financial Times reporting in Hong Kong, Germany, and on Apple shaped Apple in China, focusing on China's authoritarianism, supply chains, and Apple's operations. Research Process (02:08–05:00): Over 200 interviews and 1,000+ pages of unreported Apple documents reveal novel insights into manufacturing, bypassing Apple's product-focused narrative. Apple's Narrative Control (05:00–08:31): Apple steers media toward product features, obscuring key figures like Isabel Gamahi and critical China operations. Apple's Investment (2013–2016) (08:31–15:16): Beijing's 2013 media attacks led to a $55 billion annual investment by 2015, with Cook's $275 billion pledge in 2016, likened to double the Marshall Plan. China's Workforce (Pre-2016) (15:16–17:08): Apple trained 28 million workers, enabling competitors like Huawei, with China realizing this impact in 2016. Apple vs. Other Tech (Pre-2016) (17:08–20:11): As a hardware company, Apple followed other electronics firms to China, unlike content-focused Google, Amazon, and Facebook. U.S. Oversight (2016–Present) (20:11–24:32): U.S. was unaware of Apple's investments; Apple's training model could inspire U.S. vocational revival. Automation Challenges (Present) (24:32–30:06): China's dominance in materials and robotics makes U.S. onshoring unlikely; tariffs disrupt without solutions. Vocational Training (Present) (30:06–33:58): Apple's China training, akin to Germany's system, empowered Chinese firms; U.S. could adopt similar models. Geopolitical Outlook (Present–2025) (33:58–39:02): India's role is limited; China's manufacturing dominance persists, with Apple's AI lag adding risk. EVs and China's Lead (2019–Present) (39:02–42:46): Tesla's 2019 operations boosted China's EV dominance; West struggles with battery supply chain control. Book Promotion (42:46–43:37): Apple in China available on Amazon, Bookshop.org, Apple Books; appleinchina.com offers more details.

The Dynamist
China, Made by Apple w/ Patrick McGee

The Dynamist

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2025 65:47


President Trump's tariffs on China have highlighted how much American companies, and consumers, depend on products made in China. And arguably no company has been more exposed than Apple. The conventional wisdom in the West is that Apple and other corporations simply flocked to China for cheap, unskilled labor. While that is true, it masks the depth of Apple's relationship with the Middle Kingdom. Yes, Apple products are made in China. But Apple also made China—at least the advanced technological China confronting the U.S. today. From training tens of millions of workers, to investing hundreds of billions in the country, our guest today argues that Apple has done more than anyone, or anything, to make China a manufacturing powerhouse. As one tech analyst observed, “It's hard to reconcile the fact that the greatest American company, the most capitalist thing in the world, survives on the basis of a country that has Communist in its title.”So how did America's most iconic tech company become so invested in, and dependent on, the U.S.'s chief global adversary? What did Apple CEO Tim Cook know about what was happening, and when did he know it? How might the world look but for these investments? And as the U.S. government urges companies to de-risk and decouple from China, what position does that put Apple in?Evan is joined by Patrick McGee. He was the Financial Times's Apple reporter from 2019 to 2023 and is now the author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company.

Here & Now
How Apple helped China become a world leader in electronics

Here & Now

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2025 26:24


Apple sent engineers to China to make its sophisticated products cheaply. The company sent engineers to train workers and paid for expensive specialized equipment at factories there. This helped push China to become the world's leader in high-tech electronics manufacturing and helped Apple create the iPhone, one of the most iconic products of the 21st century. Patrick McGee, author of "Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company," explains how China and Apple have become entwined.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Good Weekend Talks
How China ate Apple – and is now weaponising its technology against the West

Good Weekend Talks

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2025 35:53 Transcription Available


In this episode, we talk to award-winning investigative journalist Patrick McGee, who for years led the Financial Times’ reporting on the meteoric rise of Apple Inc to become the world’s most valuable company after being on the brink of bankruptcy in 1996. As the iPod, iPhone and iPad revolutionised the way we live, Apple injected eye-watering amounts into China – more than $US50 billion a year by 2015 – training millions of engineers and assembly-line workers and endowing them with the skills to help propel China into the advanced manufacturing powerhouse it is today. While Apple cracked the code of making billions of dollars without actually owning the factories that produced its products, it became beholden to the Chinese once Xi Jinping came to power. With Xi weaponising the technology – and its supply chains – against the West, China now has, in McGee’s words, Apple “by the balls”. Hosting this conversation is Good Weekend acting editor Greg Callaghan.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

FT Tech Tonic
Trump's Tech Bros: Can Tim Cook save Apple from the trade war?

FT Tech Tonic

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2025 26:44


During the US president's first term in office, Tim Cook appeared to be the ultimate Trump whisperer, winning tariff exemptions despite Apple's heavy reliance on Chinese manufacturing. Now, the iPhone-maker-in-chief has found himself under the toughest pressure yet from Trump, who has threatened smartphone tariffs as high as 25%. Does Tim Cook still have a way out, or is Apple out of options? And what does Cook's relationship with Trump tell us about the future of the trade war?FT tech editor Murad Ahmed speaks to Patrick McGee, author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company; Doug Guthrie, a former negotiator for Apple in Beijing; and FT tech correspondent Michael Acton about the complicated relationship between Cook and Trump.Free to read:Donald Trump threatens Apple and Samsung with 25% tariff on devices Apple set to expand India supply chain through $1.5bn Foxconn plant Apple delays iPhone AI features as it stumbles in race with rivals This season of Tech Tonic is presented by Murad Ahmed and produced by Josh Gabert-Doyon. The senior producer is Edwin Lane and the executive producer is Flo Phillips. Sound design by Breen Turner and Samantha Giovinco. Original music by Metaphor Music, Manuela Saragosa and Topher Forhecz are the FT's acting heads of audio.Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Explanation
The Media Show: Can NPR survive Trump's cuts?

The Explanation

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2025 22:58


NPR, one of America's most prominent public broadcasters, is facing potential funding cuts following moves by President Trump. The administration alleges a lack of impartiality, prompting legal action by NPR to defend its editorial independence and mission. Katherine Maher, CEO of NPR, outlines the organisation's stance and shares her plan for survival. The Hajj in Mecca has become a huge media event but reporting from it poses significant logistical and editorial challenges. With two million pilgrims and thousands of journalists attending, media access requires strict accreditation from the Saudi authorities. Shehab Khan, Political Correspondent for ITV News, shares his experience. Apple's long-standing manufacturing presence in China has helped it achieve unmatched production scale. However, this dependence may now leave the company vulnerable amid shifting US trade policy. Patrick McGee, Financial Times reporter, discusses his new book Apple in China. Presenter: Ros Atkins Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant producer: Lucy Wai

The Media Show
Reporting from the Hajj at Mecca, Katherine Maher from National Public Radio in America takes on President Trump's funding cuts

The Media Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2025 42:41


Ros Atkins with some of the week's biggest media stories: Katherine Maher the CEO of National Public Radio in America on the attempts by President Trump to cut federal funding for the network. How does the global media cover the Hajj at Mecca, we talk to ITV reporter Shehab Khan who has visited as a journalist and a pilgirm. The journalist Patrick McGee talks about his new book "Apple in China: The capture of the World's Greatest Company." And what does the future hold for voice over artists in the AI era? We hear from Gayanne Potter who believes her voice has been used to train an AI generated voice and also to the General Secretary of Equity Paul Fleming.Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Assistant Producer: Lucy Wai.

Decouple
Tim Cook, Nation-Builder

Decouple

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2025 61:02


This week, I'm joined by Patrick McGee, a journalist and author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. I recommended this book on LinkedIn as a MUST READ, and stand by it.Apple in China is an in-depth corporate history which examines one of the most important symbioses in economic history. It explains Apple's meteoric rise in market capitalization/revenue, as well as China's newfound dominance in precision manufacturing. McGee argues convincingly that neither outcome would have happened without this relationship.Too back up this extraordinary claim, McGee closely maps how Apple systematically sent top engineers from around the world to train up hundreds of factories in China, pressed for demanding specifications at “ridiculously high yield,” and invested sums directly into China that made the post-WW2 Marshall Plan look small. The result? China now leads in 57 of 64 critical technologies, as measured by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, dominating everything from smartphones to electric vehicles.As Trump threatens iPhone-specific tariffs and Tim Cook promises impossible reshoring timelines, Apple finds itself captured by the very system it helped create. Having accidentally armed its greatest competitor, there is no clear pathway for the U.S. to regain the lead it helped China take. Find transcripts, extended shownotes, and more on our Substack.

Infinitum
Gde je ovde apostrofčić?

Infinitum

Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2025 84:59


Ep 260Mark Gurman:Apple will announce its biggest ever software rebrand at WWDCGitHub - microsoft/WSL: Windows Subsystem for LinuxThe i's are the Windows of the soul — Six ColorsGoogle Translate Now Available as Default Translation App on iPhone and iPad — MacRumorsApple Turnover — John SiracusaWant Apple to add a feature? Pass a law — Six ColorsOpenAI Buys Jony Ive's AI Startup to 'Completely Reimagine What It Means to Use a Computer' — SixColorsSam and Jony and skepticism – Six ColorsThe Dystopian Dream TeamMy Wildly Incorrect Bias About Corporate Engineers — Brent SimmonsBrent on Biases and Retirement — Gus MuellerThe App Store prevented more than $9 billion in fraudulent transactions over the last five yearsApp Store in the U.S. facilitated over $400 billion in developer billings and sales in 2024Craig Hockenberry:The App Store processes about $100B/year, while Stripe does about $1T/year. So, roughly, Stripe's business is 10x of Apple'sPatrick McGee on Apple investments in China — The Daily ShowApple launches Self Service Repair for iPad, expands repair programsFederico Viticci: For the past two weeks, I've been testing Sky, the new app by the original Shortcuts team.Steve Troughton-Smith: The Apple Intelligence team meeting after seeing SkyThis might be the first black M4 Mac Mini, and it's the perfect match for our black keyboards! AFP Support Disappearing: Another Nail in the Time Capsule Coffin - TidBITSZahvalniceSnimano 31.5.2025.Uvodna muzika by Vladimir Tošić, stari sajt je ovde.Logotip by Aleksandra Ilić.Artwork epizode by Saša Montiljo, njegov kutak na Devianartu

The Talk Show With John Gruber
423: ‘Sewing Machine Repair Shop', With Patrick McGee

The Talk Show With John Gruber

Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2025 92:42


Patrick McGee joins the show to discuss his must-read new book, *Apple in China* -- one of the best books about Apple anyone has ever written.

The Morning Brief
Patrick McGee on the Apple-China Toxic Nexus and Where India Stands

The Morning Brief

Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2025 40:07


From Steve Jobs’s design obsession to Cold War-like entanglements in China, Apple’s supply chain story is as much geopolitical as it is operational. In this episode of The Morning Brief, hosts Anirban Chowdhury and Dia Rekhi speak with Financial Times’ lead Apple reporter, journalist and author Patrick McGee, whose new book explores how Apple’s reliance on China helped build both the iPhone and China’s manufacturing dominance. From Foxconn’s factory cities to Tim Cook’s “Uber of manufacturing” model, the conversation traces how Apple’s pursuit of speed and scale created strategic dependence. As trade tensions escalate and India eyes its own role, Patrick unpacks why China’s ecosystem is still unmatched and whether democratic countries can replicate its efficiency without compromising core values. In a world of fragile ties and rising tariffs, the episode asks can the company pivot from China without dismantling the very machine it built.Tune InYou can follow Dia Rekhi on social media: Linkedin & TwitterYou can follow Anirban Chowdhury on his social media: Twitter and LinkedinCheck out other interesting episodes from the host like: Tariffs trump trade, The Curious Case of IndusInd Bank, The Influencer Economy’s Quiet Reset, India’s Biggest Hospital has a Chronic Illness and much more. Catch the latest episode of ‘The Morning Brief’ on ET Play, The Economic Times Online, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, JioSaavn, Amazon Music and Youtube.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Prof G Show with Scott Galloway
How China Captured Apple — with Patrick McGee

The Prof G Show with Scott Galloway

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2025 66:52


Patrick McGee, an award-winning journalist who spent years covering Apple for the Financial Times, joins Scott to discuss his new book, Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company.  They get into Apple's entanglement with China, the geopolitical risks tied to its supply chain, and whether a post-China future is possible for the company. Follow Patrick, @PatrickMcGee_. Scott starts the episode with thoughts on what makes someone a compelling communicator and storyteller. Algebra of Happiness: you're not your kid's friend. Help us plan for the future of The Prof G Pod by filling out a brief survey: voxmedia.com/survey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast
Patrick McGee: Apple in China

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2025 68:40


What happens when one of the world's most powerful companies finds itself caught between two superpowers? And what does it mean for the broader tech industry? Through in-depth reporting and more than 200 interviews with former Apple executives and engineers, journalist Patrick McGee uncovers what he says is the untold story of how Apple's offshoring strategy helped China rise as the world's leading electronics manufacturing hub—but also left Apple increasingly vulnerable. Now, as Beijing tightens its grip, demanding greater control over data, production and supply chains, Apple is facing a crisis that could redefine its future. McGee has reported from financial hubs around the world, from Frankfurt to Hong Kong. Now, as the San Francisco correspondent for the Financial Times, he joins Commonwealth Club World Affairs to discuss the issues raised in his new book Apple in China. He'll unpack the increasingly fraught relationship between Apple and China—a relationship with profound implications not only for the tech giant but for the future of global technology and geopolitics. Join us for this timely and thought-provoking conversation about Apple's uncertain future, the shifting balance of power in the tech world, and the far-reaching consequences for global innovation and economic stability. This program has 2 types of tickets available: in-person and online-only. Please pre-register to receive a link to the live-stream event. Commonwealth Club World Affairs of California is a nonprofit public forum; we welcome donations made during registration to support the production of our programming. Commonwealth Club World Affairs is a public forum. Any views expressed in our programs are those of the speakers and not of Commonwealth Club World Affairs. This program contains EXPLICIT language. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

China Manufacturing Decoded
Exploring the book: "Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company"

China Manufacturing Decoded

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2025 33:53 Transcription Available


Join Renaud on a journey into the fascinating world of electronics manufacturing and how Apple's strategic moves in China transformed it. Our episode is inspired by the book "Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company," a book by journalist Patrick McGee, who offers a well-researched exploration of how Apple inadvertently established an advanced electronics industry in China. You will discover how Apple's relentless pursuit of excellence and zero defects not only influenced its contract manufacturers but also propelled the entire electronics supply chain into rapid development. Through countless interactions and challenges over the decades, Apple played a pivotal role in elevating Chinese manufacturers' capabilities, setting the stage for China's dominance in the electronics industry today.   Show Sections 01:01 – About the Author & Context 02:05 – Premise of the Book 03:06 – From In-House to Outsourcing in China 04:32 – Apple's Manufacturing Weakness in the 1980s 06:09 – Canon Printers & Apple's Foothold in Publishing 08:12 – Outsourcing Risks: Sharp's PDA & OEM-ODM Transition 11:05 – Shift from Japan to Taiwan 13:13 – iMac Development & DFM Challenges 16:11 – Upskilling Manufacturers Through Pressure & Innovation 18:18 – Problems with LG & Lessons in Control 21:01 – Foxconn's Rise & Apple's Trust Transfer 24:01 – China Joins the WTO & the Manufacturing Boom 26:01 – China's Superpower: Speed, Scale, Compliance 28:01 – Apple's Embedded Control Over Manufacturing 31:01 – “Chinification” & Why It's So Hard to Leave Now   Related content... Read the book 'Apple in China'   Get in touch with us Connect with us on LinkedIn Contact us via Sofeast's contact page Subscribe to our YouTube channel Prefer Facebook? Check us out on FB Get in touch with us Connect with us on LinkedIn Contact us via Sofeast's contact page Subscribe to our YouTube channel Prefer Facebook? Check us out on FB

The Andrew Klavan Show
How China Controls America's Biggest Tech Company | Patrick McGee

The Andrew Klavan Show

Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2025 32:16


Apple, like all successful companies, became successful by maximizing profits and minimizing costs. However, to achieve this, they sold their soul to America's biggest adversary: the Chinese Communist Party. The story of how this transpired is chronicled in exceptional detail by my guest, Patrick McGee, who joins me to discuss his book “Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company” and explains whether or not he believes Trump can return manufacturing to America. - - -  Today's Sponsor: Balance of Nature - Go to https://balanceofnature.com and use promo code KLAVAN for 35% off your first order PLUS get a free bottle of Fiber and Spice.

RTÉ - The Business
How Apple Turned China Into a Superpower

RTÉ - The Business

Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2025 13:16


Along with the proposed 50% tariff on EU goods, President Donald Trump has also threatened to impose a 25% tariff on all Apple phones not manufactured in the US. Patrick McGee, author of Apple in China, believes it will be difficult for Apple to leave China, where the company has a long history of manufacturing iPhones.

Video Game Outsiders
Micro VGO - Episode 202

Video Game Outsiders

Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2025 51:53


Games of Thrones Kingsroad package sent to us and game, Grey Zone Warfare, Zone out games: Path of Exile 2 and Idles, Xbox is having a moment adding Metaphor to game pass and adding retro classics, Steam pass, Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company by Patrick McGee, Grief is back in COD, Firebreak Preview, Leaf Blower Simulator, and a long chat on AI. Chat or support in Discord for even more extra shows and contests https://discord.gg/Ab6pxpT

The Exchange
How Apple's China celebration became a conundrum

The Exchange

Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2025 40:46


Factories and consumers in the People's Republic helped turn the iPhone maker into a $3 trln giant. Now geopolitical tensions are straining the relationship. In this episode of The Big View podcast, ‘Apple in China' author Patrick McGee explains why there's no easy way out. Visit the Thomson Reuters Privacy Statement for information on our privacy and data protection practices. You may also visit megaphone.fm/adchoices to opt-out of targeted advertising. 

Mobile Dev Memo Podcast
Season 5, Episode 21: Apple in China (with Patrick McGee)

Mobile Dev Memo Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2025 41:38


where he covers Apple. The topic of our conversation is Patrick's new book, Apple in China, which I reviewed last week. In the episode, Patrick provides a history of Apple's manufacturing activities in China, why Apple became so dependent on China for the production of its products, and how Apple shaped the trajectory of China as meaningfully as China shaped Apple.Thanks to the sponsors of this week's episode of the Mobile Dev Memo podcast:ContextSDK. ContextSDK uses over 200 smartphone signals to detect a user's real-world context, allowing apps to deliver perfectly timed push notifications and in-app offers.INCRMNTAL⁠⁠. True attribution measures incrementality, always on.Interested in sponsoring the Mobile Dev Memo podcast? Contact ⁠Marketecture⁠.

The American Compass Podcast
Apple's Chinafication with Patrick McGee

The American Compass Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2025 46:49


The Trump administration's new trade policy toward China has revealed just how deeply enmeshed major American corporations are with our chief geopolitical rival. Apple's story is perhaps the most dramatic.Patrick McGee, author of Apple in China and San Francisco correspondent for the Financial Times, joins Oren to discuss how Apple, like so many other nominally American companies, is constrained by the rules, regulations, and industrial preferences of the Chinese Communist Party. They break down how China dominates its peer competitors, the way multinational corporations sleepwalked into the present crisis, and the possibility of America breaking China's industrial chokehold.Further reading:Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company by Patrick McGeeTrade with Communists Should Be Uncertain by Oren CassDisfavored Nation by Mark DiPlacido, Chris Griswold, and Trevor Jones

DisrupTV
What is the state of technology today? w/ Karthik, Patrick, Andrés, Michel

DisrupTV

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2025 66:16


This week on DisrupTV, we interviewed Karthik Narain, Group Chief Executive, Technology and CTO at Accenture, Patrick McGee, Author of Apple in China: the Capture of the World's Greatest Company, and Andrés Tapia & Michel Buffet, Co-authors of The 5 Disciplines of Inclusive Teams: Unlocking Collective Power to Achieve Breakthrough. We discussed AI's transformative impact with Karthik, who highlighted the tech vision's 25-year history and the pivotal role of AI in driving future growth. Patrick's book, "Apple in China," explored the unintended consequences of Apple's supply chain strategy, which significantly boosted China's electronic sector. Andrés Tapia and Michel Buffet discussed the importance of inclusive teams, emphasizing the need for human connection and AI integration to enhance productivity and innovation. DisrupTV is a weekly podcast with hosts R "Ray" Wang and Vala Afshar. The show airs live at 11:00 a.m. PT/ 2:00 p.m. ET every Friday. Brought to you by Constellation Executive Network: constellationr.com/CEN.

Actually
L'AI che ruba il lavoro alle Big Tech e il rapporto tra Apple e la Cina + il modello di business dei podcast nel mondo

Actually

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2025 52:16


Microsoft ha annunciato il licenziamento di circa 6.000 dipendenti, pari al 3% della sua forza lavoro globale, come parte di una strategia per aumentare l'efficienza operativa e concentrare le risorse sull'intelligenza artificiale. Nel frattempo, si sta parlando molto del libro "Apple in China" di Patrick McGee, che racconta di come Apple stia diventando il simbolo dell'integrazione economica tra Stati Uniti e Cina e allo stesso tempo un caso da manuale su come quella relazione stia andando in crisi. Nella Big Story parliamo del settore dei podcast e di come sia stato in grado di generare vendite per $7,3 miliardi l'anno scorso, più del doppio delle stime. Questo podcast e gli altri nostri contenuti sono gratuiti anche grazie a chi ci sostiene con Will Makers. Sostienici e accedi a contenuti esclusivi su ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠willmedia.it/abbonati Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The FOX News Rundown
President Biden's Dark Cloud Over The Democrats

The FOX News Rundown

Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2025 32:45


Reports continues to surface about former President Biden's decline, both physically and mentally, before he ended his run for re-election. Americans will remember the infamous debate last June that sparked questions about then-President Biden, and weeks later he dropped out of the race. Now, tell-all books and articles continue to emerge with direct stories from Biden insiders who openly acknowledge Biden's frailty that they kept under wraps from the public. Democratic strategist and 2024 Biden campaign surrogate Kevin Walling joins the Rundown to discuss the fallout from those Biden decline stories now reaching America at large.  Apple has lost nearly $800 billion in market value since the emergence of President Trump's trade war. The decline is largely attributed to the tariffs imposed on China, which have exposed the vulnerability of Apple's reliance on China for cheap manufacturing. Apple pledged to move 25% of their manufacturing to India, but is this U.S. tech titan already too dependent on the Chinese Communist Party? Patrick McGee, author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company, joins the podcast to explain the origins of Apple placing its manufacturing in China, and he details how and why Apple's manufacturing center became effectively stuck in China. Plus, commentary by Brian Kilmeade, Host of One Nation with Brian Kilmeade and The Brian Kilmeade Show. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From Washington – FOX News Radio
President Biden's Dark Cloud Over The Democrats

From Washington – FOX News Radio

Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2025 32:45


Reports continues to surface about former President Biden's decline, both physically and mentally, before he ended his run for re-election. Americans will remember the infamous debate last June that sparked questions about then-President Biden, and weeks later he dropped out of the race. Now, tell-all books and articles continue to emerge with direct stories from Biden insiders who openly acknowledge Biden's frailty that they kept under wraps from the public. Democratic strategist and 2024 Biden campaign surrogate Kevin Walling joins the Rundown to discuss the fallout from those Biden decline stories now reaching America at large.  Apple has lost nearly $800 billion in market value since the emergence of President Trump's trade war. The decline is largely attributed to the tariffs imposed on China, which have exposed the vulnerability of Apple's reliance on China for cheap manufacturing. Apple pledged to move 25% of their manufacturing to India, but is this U.S. tech titan already too dependent on the Chinese Communist Party? Patrick McGee, author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company, joins the podcast to explain the origins of Apple placing its manufacturing in China, and he details how and why Apple's manufacturing center became effectively stuck in China. Plus, commentary by Brian Kilmeade, Host of One Nation with Brian Kilmeade and The Brian Kilmeade Show. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Fox News Rundown Evening Edition
President Biden's Dark Cloud Over The Democrats

Fox News Rundown Evening Edition

Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2025 32:45


Reports continues to surface about former President Biden's decline, both physically and mentally, before he ended his run for re-election. Americans will remember the infamous debate last June that sparked questions about then-President Biden, and weeks later he dropped out of the race. Now, tell-all books and articles continue to emerge with direct stories from Biden insiders who openly acknowledge Biden's frailty that they kept under wraps from the public. Democratic strategist and 2024 Biden campaign surrogate Kevin Walling joins the Rundown to discuss the fallout from those Biden decline stories now reaching America at large.  Apple has lost nearly $800 billion in market value since the emergence of President Trump's trade war. The decline is largely attributed to the tariffs imposed on China, which have exposed the vulnerability of Apple's reliance on China for cheap manufacturing. Apple pledged to move 25% of their manufacturing to India, but is this U.S. tech titan already too dependent on the Chinese Communist Party? Patrick McGee, author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company, joins the podcast to explain the origins of Apple placing its manufacturing in China, and he details how and why Apple's manufacturing center became effectively stuck in China. Plus, commentary by Brian Kilmeade, Host of One Nation with Brian Kilmeade and The Brian Kilmeade Show. Photo Credit: AP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hugh Hewitt podcast
U.S. and China Reach Trade Deal

Hugh Hewitt podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2025 81:46


Hugh discusses the tariff deal with China, the release of Israeli-American hostage Edan Alexander, the tax bill, and gender in youth sports, with Olivia Beavers, Dr. Michael Oren, Sen. Tom Cotton, Vic Matus, Adm. Mark Montgomery, and Patrick McGee. Book: Apple in China by Patrick McGee.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Chris Voss Show
The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Apple in China: The Capture of the World’s Greatest Company by Patrick McGee

The Chris Voss Show

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2025 44:35


Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company by Patrick McGee Amazon.com For readers of Walter Isaacson's Steve Jobs and Chris Miller's Chip War, a riveting look at how Apple helped build China's dominance in electronics assembly and manufacturing only to find itself trapped in a relationship with an authoritarian state making ever-increasing demands. After struggling to build its products on three continents, Apple was lured by China's seemingly inexhaustible supply of cheap labor. Soon it was sending thousands of engineers across the Pacific, training millions of workers, and spending hundreds of billions of dollars to create the world's most sophisticated supply chain. These capabilities enabled Apple to build the 21st century's most iconic products—in staggering volume and for enormous profit. Without explicitly intending to, Apple built an advanced electronics industry within China, only to discover that its massive investments in technology upgrades had inadvertently given Beijing a power that could be weaponized. In Apple in China, journalist Patrick McGee draws on more than two hundred interviews with former executives and engineers, supplementing their stories with unreported meetings held by Steve Jobs, emails between top executives, and internal memos regarding threats from Chinese competition. The book highlights the unknown characters who were instrumental in Apple's ascent and who tried to forge a different path, including the Mormon missionary who established the Apple Store in China; the “Gang of Eight” executives tasked with placating Beijing; and an idealistic veteran whose hopes of improving the lives of factory workers were crushed by both Cupertino's operational demands and Xi Jinping's war on civil society. Apple in China is the sometimes disturbing and always revelatory story of how an outspoken, proud company that once praised “rebels” and “troublemakers”—the company that encouraged us all to “Think Different”—devolved into passively cooperating with a belligerent regime that increasingly controls its fate. About the author Patrick McGee led Apple coverage at the Financial Times from 2019 to 2023 and won a San Francisco Press Club Award for his coverage of the company. He joined the newspaper in 2013, in Hong Kong, before reporting from Germany and California. His reporting in the last decade has centered on upheavals in technology, including autonomous cars, electric vehicles, and major developments in the supply chain. Previously, he was a bond reporter at the Wall Street Journal. He received a Master's in Global Diplomacy from SOAS, University of London, where his thesis focused on the US military budget and competition with China. He has also a degree in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto. Originally from Calgary, Canada, he and his family make their home in the Bay Area. Patrick is a keen runner, reader of history, and traveller.

The Sunday Magazine
How China made Apple, and Apple made China

The Sunday Magazine

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2025 26:04


If you've ever owned an iPhone, iPad or Mac, you may have noticed these words printed on the back: "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China." But there's a bigger story behind that simple tagline. Financial Times journalist Patrick McGee tells Piya Chattopadhyay that few understand just how key China and Apple have been to each other's rise. His new book Apple in China explores a relationship that's central to the world as we know it, one which is facing new challenges from tariffs to tensions with Taiwan.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
How China Captured Apple

Honestly with Bari Weiss

Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2025 97:20


The majority of people listening to this episode are hearing it on an iPhone. As most of us can attest, the iPhone is so central to our lives that if we lose it, we feel totally unmoored from our ability to function in the world. It's hard to explain how ubiquitous the iPhone is—and how much of a behemoth Apple is. Apple sells over 60 million iPhones in the U.S. a year, and one plant can make as many as 500,000 iPhones per day. And in 2024, the company brought in a total revenue of $391 billion. The rise of Apple and the iPhone did not happen by accident. The fact that we all walk around with the most sophisticated technology in our pockets—at a cost of about a thousand dollars each—is the result of two forces: Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, and China, our largest geostrategic and economic rival. Few people are more prepared to discuss the symbiotic relationship between Apple and Communist China than Patrick McGee, a longtime business journalist who has covered Apple for the Financial Times. McGee is the author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. And Patrick makes the case that Apple became the world's most valuable company by wedding itself—and its future—to an authoritarian state. As the president and others talk about decoupling from the country, Apple's exposure in China isn't just a liability for the company—it's a liability to our national security, our own workforce, and our future. Today on Honestly, Bari asks Patrick how China came to dominate Apple's manufacturing supply chain; how its totalitarian system and labor practices lured Apple to it; and how Apple's decades-long transfer of knowledge and capital into China has made it nearly impossible to leave. Also, why the conventional wisdom—which is that Apple would not exist but for China—actually works the other way around. As Patrick argues, China would not be China without Apple. Header 6: The Free Press earns a commission from any purchases made through all book links in this article. Go to groundnews.com/Honestly to get 40% off the unlimited access Vantage plan and unlock world-wide perspectives on today's biggest news stories. Check out fastgrowingtrees.com/Honestly and use the code HONESTLY at checkout to get 15% off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Something You Should Know
How Apple Became a $3 Trillion Company & Why We Love to Laugh

Something You Should Know

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 52:30


It is so tempting. The gas pump clicks off indicating that your tank is full but there is that urge to squeeze out a few more drops. Should you? This episode begins by explaining what happens when you do that. ⁠https://cluballiance.aaa.com/the-extra-mile/advice/car/seo-should-you-really-top-off-your-gas-tank⁠ Apple is a huge company worth $3 trillion. It makes money from products (iPhone, computers, smart watch etc.) and services (App store, Apple Pay etc.). Most Apple products are made and assembled in China and the impact Apple has made in China is astonishing and a story you must hear. Here to tell it is Patrick McGee. He was the Financial Times's principal Apple reporter from 2019 to 2023. Previously, he was a reporter at The Wall Street Journal and is now the author of the book ⁠Apple In China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company (https://amzn.to/4cXXwfC).⁠ We love to laugh. We seek it out. We go to comedy clubs and watch funny movies in order to laugh. Why do we do that? What is it about laughter that makes us feel so good? What makes something or someone funny? Joining me for an interesting discussion about this is Jesse David Fox, Senior Editor and comedy critic at Vulture. He also hosts a podcast called ⁠Good One (https://www.vulture.com/good-one)⁠ and he is author of the book, ⁠Comedy Book: How Comedy Conquered Culture―and the Magic That Makes It Work (https://amzn.to/4iIRnW5).⁠ All cancer is scary but pancreatic is particularly horrible because it often goes undetected until it is too late – and because no one really knows what causes it. Interestingly, there does seem to be a link between pancreatic cancer and sunlight. Listen as I explain. ⁠https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150430082151.htm⁠ PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!!! CARAWAY: Get 10% off your next purchase, at ⁠https://Carawayhome.com/SYSK⁠ or use code SYSK at checkout. Caraway. Non-Toxic cookware made modern. MINT MOBILE: Ditch overpriced wireless and get 3 months of premium wireless service from Mint Mobile for 15 bucks a month at ⁠https://MintMobile.com/something⁠ ! FACTOR: Eat smart with Factor! Get 50% off at ⁠⁠⁠https://FactorMeals.com/something50off⁠⁠⁠ TIMELINE: Get 10% off your order of Mitopure!  Go to ⁠⁠⁠https://Timeline.com/SOMETHING⁠⁠⁠ INDEED: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to get your jobs more visibility at ⁠⁠⁠https://Indeed.com/SOMETHING⁠⁠⁠ right now! QUINCE: Elevate your shopping with Quince! Go to ⁠⁠https://Quince.com/sysk⁠⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hidden Forces
Dangerous Dependency: Apple & the Rise of China | Patrick McGee

Hidden Forces

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 54:11


In Episode 416 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Financial Times correspondent Patrick McGee about the integral role Apple played in helping to build China's advanced manufacturing ecosystem—and the geopolitical interdependencies and national security risks now baked into that relationship. McGee's book “Apple in China” tells two stories. First, it chronicles Apple's ascent from being nearly bankrupt in the mid‑1990s to becoming the world's most valuable company within just 15 years. Second, it traces China's historic transformation from an underdeveloped economy with Third‑World cost structures and armies of unskilled laborers to the world's largest economy (by purchasing power parity) and the hub of the most advanced manufacturing base on the planet. By the time this episode is over, you will have learned exactly how Apple off-loaded almost all its manufacturing to Asia by the late 1990s and early 2000s and then consolidated that entire operation inside mainland China. You will also learn how the same supply chain mastery that turned Apple into the world's most valuable company has left it existentially dependent on a single authoritarian state whose political goals now diverge sharply from Washington's. It's an incredible story with profound implications for all of us who depend on China's manufacturing prowess and intricate supply networks to sustain our way of life. Whether we can extricate ourselves from this web of interdependencies—and the extent to which we should even want to—is one of a number of topics we explore extensively in the episode's second hour. Subscribe to our premium content—including our premium feed, episode transcripts, and Intelligence Reports—by visiting HiddenForces.io/subscribe. If you'd like to join the conversation and become a member of the Hidden Forces Genius community—with benefits like Q&A calls with guests, exclusive research and analysis, in-person events, and dinners—you can also sign up on our subscriber page at HiddenForces.io/subscribe. If you enjoyed today's episode of Hidden Forces, please support the show by: Subscribing on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, Stitcher, SoundCloud, CastBox, or via our RSS Feed Writing us a review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Joining our mailing list at https://hiddenforces.io/newsletter/ Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas Editor & Engineer: Stylianos Nicolaou Subscribe and support the podcast at https://hiddenforces.io. Join the conversation on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @hiddenforcespod Follow Demetri on Twitter at @Kofinas Episode Recorded on 05/01/2025

The Circuit
Episode 117: Talking Apple in China with Patrick McGee

The Circuit

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 46:53


In this episode, Ben and Jay welcome Patrick McGee, author of 'Apple in China', who discusses his extensive research on Apple's relationship with China. The conversation explores how Apple's investments and manufacturing strategies have significantly influenced China's technological landscape, as well as the cultural impact of Apple products in China. Patrick shares insights from his book, detailing the evolution of Apple's supply chain and the pivotal role of Foxconn in Apple's success. In this conversation, Patrick McGee discusses the intricate relationship between Apple and its supply chain, particularly focusing on Foxconn and Chinese manufacturers. He highlights how Apple's business model has influenced the manufacturing landscape in China, the challenges of replicating this model elsewhere, and the critical role of TSMC in Apple's operations. The discussion also touches on the implications of IP transfer and the impact of Tesla in the EV industry, showcasing the broader effects of Apple's strategies on global manufacturing and economics.

The Sunday Magazine
Pope Leo XIV, Apple and China, Sunday Politics Panel, Digital parenting

The Sunday Magazine

Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2025 97:17


Host Piya Chattopadhyay speaks with Vatican journalist Charles Collins about the path ahead for Pope Leo XIV, Financial Times journalist Patrick McGee gets to the core of Apple and China's symbiotic relationship, journalists Shannon Proudfoot, Rob Benzie and Jason Markusoff explore how Prime Minister Mark Carney might approach competing provincial priorities, and New York Times culture critic Amanda Hess delves into how tech culture is shaping modern parenting.Find more at at https://www.cbc.ca/sunday

Crime Time Inc
They Tried to Kill Margaret Thatcher

Crime Time Inc

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2024 15:37


In this episode of Crime Time, Inc., we delve into the harrowing events of the 1984 Brighton Hotel bombing. The episode begins by setting the political backdrop of The Troubles in Northern Ireland, detailing the complex conflict between unionists and republicans. The narrative then focuses on the bombing itself, aimed at the British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who narrowly escaped. The meticulous planning carried out by IRA operative Patrick McGee is examined, along with the devastating impact of the blast, which killed five people and injured thirty-four others. The episode also highlights the subsequent investigation that led to McGee's capture and conviction. Moving beyond the immediate aftermath, the discussion explores the heightened security measures implemented in Britain and the ongoing debates about the balance between security and civil liberties. A poignant segment of the episode narrates the remarkable story of reconciliation between Joe Barry, daughter of one of the victims, and Patrick McGee, symbolizing the potential for forgiveness and understanding in the quest for peace. Through in-depth analysis and emotional storytelling, this episode provides valuable insights into the complexities of political violence, the human cost of conflict, and the enduring hope for a future free from violence.00:00 Introduction to the Brighton Hotel Bombing00:15 Understanding The Troubles01:03 The IRA and the Attack on Margaret Thatcher02:36 Details of the Brighton Hotel Bombing04:00 The Human Cost and Immediate Aftermath05:24 Investigation and Arrest of Patrick McGee06:14 Trial and Sentencing of Patrick McGee06:39 Impact on British Society and Security07:22 The Good Friday Agreement and McGee's Release08:12 Joe Barry's Remarkable Journey Towards Forgiveness13:14 Final Reflections and Security Changes14:55 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.