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The Agency Leadership Podcast provides insights for agency owners and executives. Co-hosts Chip Griffin and Gini Dietrich share practical advice and industry news relevant to PR and marketing agency leaders.

Chip Griffin and Gini Dietrich


    • May 15, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekly NEW EPISODES
    • 23m AVG DURATION
    • 416 EPISODES


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    Can agency team members be more strategic?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2025 18:22


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss whether or not employees can be encouraged to be "more strategic".

    Limiting scope creep from the start

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2025


    In this episode, Chip and Gini delve into the topic of scope creep in agencies.

    Pricing psychology for agency clients

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2025 21:50


    Chip and Gini cover topics such as the importance of being confident in your pricing, avoiding negotiating against oneself, and the benefits of premium pricing.

    Identifying and managing agency owner burnout

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 19:01


    Chip and Gini explore the different types of burnout, including cyclical and long-term burnout, and offer strategies to identify, cope with, and prevent it.

    Agency owners review 2024 performance, assess outlook

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2025 19:14


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the latest quarterly SAGA owner survey, which provides a mixed bag of results for agencies.

    Preparing your agency for an uncertain future

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2025 20:29


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss what agency owners can do to weather the current climate of economic uncertainty and potential recession.

    Choosing the right exit strategy as an agency owner

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2025 21:06


    In this episode, Chip and Gini explore strategies for agency owners contemplating an exit plan.

    Managing remote workers without micromanaging

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2025 22:07


    Five years after most agencies leaned in to remote or hybrid work models, many owners and managers continue to struggle with finding the right approach to managing employees that they don't see in person every day.

    Using AI the right way for agency biz dev

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2025 18:34


    Chip and Gini criticize the common misuse of AI for impersonal, high-volume outreach, and tell you how you can leverage AI while maintaining a human touch.

    What freelancers should know before they become agency owners

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2025 16:58


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the transition from being a freelancer to an agency owner.

    How to get your team the mentorship they need

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2025 19:16


    Chip and Gini discuss the need for managers to support and mentor their employees, leveraging both internal and external resources, and the value of making time to mentor individuals outside one's own organization.

    AI no threat to agency employees learning fundamental skills

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2025 18:45


    Chip and Gini discuss the complaint they hear from owners that AI is preventing junior employees from learning how to do their jobs the right way.

    The value of getting satisfaction from client work

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2025 19:56


    Chip and Gini explore how satisfaction can drive motivation, the significance of setting boundaries with clients, and the need for purpose in work.

    Should your agency pivot to a new focus amid economic shifts?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2025 18:04


    In this episode, Chip and Gini address the topic of pivoting for small agencies in response to changing economic and political climates.

    Should your small agency be subcontracting for larger agencies?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2025 20:39


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the pros and cons of agencies doing subcontracted work for other agencies.

    Mastering Client Staffing for Small Agency Success

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2025 20:06


    Chip and Gini discuss a Reddit user's question about managing a $2 million account.

    What the Q4 SAGA Survey tells us about agency talent

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2024 23:03


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the findings from the SAGA quarterly survey of small agency owners. They cover insights on optimism in business outlook despite recent challenges, with a focus on talent-related issues such as compensation, retention, and recruiting. They delve into some surprising statistics, such as one in five agency owners not...

    Agency owners need to put themselves in other people’s shoes

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2024 25:08


    Chip and Gini emphasize the need for agency owners to put themselves in the shoes of clients, prospects, and employees to improve communication and relationships.

    Should your agency charge new clients a startup fee?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2024 18:47


    Chip and Gini explore whether agencies should charge more upfront for initial work and creative approaches to managing client expectations and financials.

    Strengthening your PR agency’s role in business decisions

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2024 18:24


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss PR professionals wanting a seat at the table when it comes to business decision-making.

    What to do when clients don’t get your agency what it needs to succeed

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2024 22:23


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the common challenges agencies face in obtaining timely feedback and necessary information from clients.

    Are you playing with fire as an agency owner?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2024 22:40


    Chip and Gini talk about compliance, ethical practices, and risk management for agency owners.

    Planning for agency growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2024 22:49


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss strategic planning for growing an agency in 2025.

    Onboarding agency clients the right way

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2024 21:25


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the critical aspects of onboarding new clients in the agency world.

    Balancing booze and your agency business

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2024 22:40


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the importance of having clear alcohol policies in agencies.

    Agencies and ageism

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2024 22:45


    In this episode, Chip and Gini explore the challenges of ageism within the PR and marketing industries, with a focus on agencies.

    Q3 agency owner survey shows overall optimism, but dissatisfaction with state of business development

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2024 26:08


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss results from the SAGA Q3 Agency Owner Survey.

    Why one-size-fits-all advice doesn’t work for agencies

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2024 19:42


    In this episode, Chip and Gini dismantle the myth that agency management can rely on a one-size-fits-all approach. They emphasize the importance of understanding the diversity and unique needs of different types of agencies, such as PR, ad, and digital agencies.

    Turning agency reporting into a profit center

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2024 19:52


    Many agency leaders view reports as a necessary evil, but when done right they can actually become an important contributor to profits.

    Using LinkedIn effectively to grow your agency

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2024 23:51


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the pros and cons of using LinkedIn for agency growth and professional engagement.

    Do you trust your agency team members?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2024 21:22


    Chip and Gini explore common scenarios where agency owners struggle with trusting their employees, often due to micromanagement tendencies, ill-defined roles, or unrealistic expectations.

    Unlocking agency potential by asking “So What?”

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2024 21:07


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the importance of asking "So What?" and how it can lead to more effective decision-making for agency owners.

    Does email marketing work for agencies?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2024 21:54


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the importance of email marketing for agencies. They emphasize that email newsletters should be a top priority for agencies to nurture leads, share content, and maintain direct communication with clients.

    What to do when your agency can’t avoid responding to an RFP

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2024 21:58


    If you're a regular listener, you know that Chip and Gini have strong feelings about staying away from RFPs when possible. But sometimes they can't be avoided.

    Who Should PR Agencies Report To?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2024 21:02


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss whether PR agencies should report to the head of communications or the head of marketing.

    Have agencies listened too well to the “be strategic” mantra?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2024 18:29


    In this episode, Chip and Gini examine whether agencies have hit 'peak strategy' as suggested recently by Blair Enns.

    AI should be your agency’s friend, not foe

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2024 18:20


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the widespread apprehension about AI in the agency world, urging listeners to embrace the technology rather than fear it.

    Adapting your agency for risk-averse clients

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 13, 2024


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the increased risk aversion and prolonged decision-making processes among clients and prospects in the agency industry, especially in light of economic uncertainties and the 2024 U.S. election.

    Building an agency culture where everyone can take time off

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2024


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the importance of ensuring that no one in an agency, including owners and key employees, is too indispensable to take time off.

    Setting honest expectations for your agency employees from the start

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2024


    Don't sugarcoat it when writing up a job description or interviewing potential new hires - painting a rosy picture that doesn't match reality will only cause you headaches down the road.

    Agencies need to adapt to effectively manage Gen Z employees

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2024 17:29


    Gen Z employees tend to have a different (not worse!) approach to their jobs than the older generations do.

    Should you start your own agency because your boss is making too much off of your work?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2024 22:29


    Many agency employees complain that clients pay so much more than they are making, so the owner must be reaping a huge profit.

    Should your small agency hire senior-level pros?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2024 20:24


    Hiring seasoned professionals sounds like it will solve a lot of headaches you have as an agency owner. But will it?

    What new rules on overtime and non-competes mean for agencies

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2024 21:56


    Chip and Gini discuss recent updates from the federal government affecting agency owners, including a ban on non-compete agreements and changes to salary thresholds for overtime exempt employees.

    Building trust and letting your team shine

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2024 18:54


    Chip and Gini discuss the importance of agency owners letting go of micromanaging, trusting their team, and focusing on building a scalable business.

    Should your agency sell itself as a fractional CxO to clients?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2024 21:22


    Chip and Gini discuss the intricacies of fractional leadership roles within clients.

    Accepting equity as payment for agency services

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2024 17:57


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the potential pitfalls of receiving equity as payment for service.

    Get over your fear of hiring employees

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2024 23:02


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the fear of hiring employees, the implications of using contractors, the financial considerations, and the benefits of having employees.

    Handling frustration as an agency owner

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2024 19:43


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the challenges and frustrations of owning an agency, emphasizing the importance of seeking accountability and support, and reflecting on one's own role in addressing issues.

    How to handle extended payment term requests from agency clients

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 29, 2024 23:03


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss the importance of setting clear expectations from the start and being proactive in following up on overdue invoices.

    Avoiding time-wasting in your agency

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2024 21:30


    In this episode, Chip and Gini discuss how to get your agency's time under control and offer advice on managing business development and project management to avoid the unnecessary and focus on real value creation.

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