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First aired September 6, 2026 Dr. Charleanea Arellano has spent over 30 years as a clinical psychologist and leadership coach, but the framework she's best known for now, the Embodied Narrative Framework, didn't come from a textbook. It came from putting away laundry five years ago and noticing her own body bracing for impact, for no reason at all, at age 55, after decades of actually being safe. Dr. Arellano built her career studying how high-achieving women lead while carrying nervous systems shaped by trauma, and by the added weight of managing how their race, sexuality, or gender is perceived in the room. As a queer Latina psychologist who didn't come out publicly until 2024, and who spent years often being the only person of color at the table, she's lived the pattern she now helps her clients unwind. We talk about what a chronically activated nervous system actually feels like in the body, the subtle and not-so-subtle ways bias shows up in a room, why "just get a massage" isn't a real fix for high achievers, and the simple, several-times-a-day nervous system reset she teaches instead. Watch this epsiode on Youtube | Subscribe  In this episode Why Dr. Arellano's own healing journey, not her doctorate, is what actually led her to the nervous system work she's known for today What it felt like to be the only person of color in the room for decades, and the subtle versus overt ways bias and microaggressions actually show up How to tell when your nervous system is activated, from bracing for impact to chronic anxiety, and why it starts in the body, not the mind The physical toll of years of unresolved activation: TMJ, chronic headaches, fatigue, digestive issues, and more Why women and men are socialized to handle stress so differently, and what that means for high-achieving women specifically The several-times-a-day nervous system reset Dr. Arellano teaches her clients, and why it only takes seconds Balancing connection and protection with family members who caused real harm, and what it looks like to set a boundary without needing them to understand it Timestamps (00:01) Welcome and guest intro: meet psychologist and Embodied Narrative Framework founder Dr. Charleanea Arellano (03:07) Her path into psychology: curiosity about human behavior, a high school class, and a PhD by 29 (05:26) "We are a version of our perfect client": how her own experience as a high achiever managing perceptions shaped her work (07:52) The subtle and overt ways bias shows up in a room, from stopped conversations to backhanded compliments (11:49) Stepping away from the professional world in 2003 after years of navigating belonging and credibility (13:24) What it actually feels like when your nervous system is activated: bracing, anxiety, and the body's fight-or-run response (20:35) The chronic physical toll: TMJ, headaches, fatigue, digestive issues, and chronic pain (24:30) Why women carry stress differently than men, and what that means for high-achieving women (25:57) The several-times-a-day nervous system reset, and why "just get a massage" doesn't work for high achievers (33:36) Her books: the memoir Terrible Gifts and The Last Dance, on intergenerational trauma with her father (37:01) Balancing connection and protection: boundaries with family members who caused real harm (40:06) Where to find Dr. Arellano and her work About Dr. Charleanea Arellano Dr. Charleanea Arellano is a licensed psychologist and Board Certified Life Coach with over 30 years of clinical and leadership experience, and the founder of the Embodied Narrative Framework. A queer Latina psychologist, she helps high-achieving women understand how nervous system patterns, trauma-adapted achievement, and the added stress of managing how their race, sexuality, or gender is perceived shape the way they decide, lead, and relate to success. Her own healing journey, including decades of navigating rooms where she was often the only person of color, informs her work today. She's the author of the forthcoming memoir Terrible Gifts: Finding the Light in the Darkest of Places, and The Last Dance, which explores intergenerational trauma through her relationship with her father. Learn more at Dr. Charleanea's website, or connect with her on LinkedIn. Favorite quotes "We are a version of our perfect client." —Dr. Charleanea Arellano "It starts with the nervous system. The nervous system is online before we have any conscious thought about it. It's running the show." —Dr. Charleanea Arellano "This is hygiene. This is another form of hygiene — nervous system hygiene that you do throughout the day." —Dr. Charleanea Arellano, on why a 30-second reset matters as much as brushing your teeth Resources mentioned Dr. Charleanea's website: home to her coaching practice and more on the Embodied Narrative Framework Terrible Gifts: Finding the Light in the Darkest of Places: Dr. Arellano's forthcoming memoir, currently in the publication process The Last Dance: her book on intergenerational trauma, told through her relationship with her father Dr. Charleanea Arellano on LinkedIn Subscribe & connect If this episode gave you something to sit with, follow Phoenix and Flame so you never miss an episode: all apps in one place, or jump straight to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or YouTube. And if it moved you, leave a review; it's the easiest way to help another listener find the show. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. 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First aired August 23, 2026 Annette Mullin spent 24 years with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, nine of them as a crisis negotiator, eventually leading one of the busiest negotiation teams in the country â€" averaging over 100 call-outs a year. She worked patrol, sexual assault, internal affairs, and homicide, becoming LVMPD's first female homicide sergeant, before spending her final years as the department's director of employee wellness in the aftermath of the October 1 Mandalay Bay shooting, the largest mass shooting in U.S. history. Now a negotiation instructor and coach at the Black Swan Group, founded by former FBI lead hostage negotiator Chris Voss, Annette translates those high-stakes lessons into practical tools for leaders, teams, and individuals navigating pressure, conflict, and growth. We talk about the universal need she discovered in every person she ever negotiated with, why the crime itself is almost always a secondary issue, what "tactical empathy" actually looks like in practice, and why most of us were never actually taught how to listen. Watch this episode Youtube episode link here In this episode How the O.J. Simpson case and a criminalistics program in LA sparked Annette's path into crime scene investigation, and why she chose Las Vegas over LAPD Joining LVMPD's crisis negotiation team, and what made Las Vegas's team one of the busiest in the country Becoming LVMPD's first female homicide sergeant, and the advice that helped her navigate a male-dominated field without making it about gender Why removing assumptions, and getting curious instead of judgmental, changed how she worked with people in crisis The universal need Annette discovered every person in crisis shares, no matter how different the circumstances Why the crime itself is almost always a secondary issue, and what's usually driving it underneath How Chris Voss's "tactical empathy" model, from Never Split the Difference, turns negotiation into collaboration instead of a tug-of-war The five levels of listening Black Swan teaches, and why most of us are trained to listen to respond instead of to understand Timestamps (00:01) Welcome and guest intro: meet retired LVMPD crisis negotiator Annette Mullin (02:23) From the East Coast to Las Vegas: the O.J. Simpson case and her path into crime scene investigation (04:42) Joining the crisis negotiation team, and Las Vegas's brutal call-out numbers (06:36) Retiring after serving as director of employee wellness following the October 1 Mandalay Bay shooting (08:15) What drew her to law enforcement as a kid, from Nancy Drew to Quincy, M.E. (10:10) Navigating gender in a male-dominated field, and becoming LVMPD's first female homicide sergeant (14:00) Removing assumptions: why curiosity beats judgment when someone has "a chip on their shoulder" (16:52) The universal need every person in crisis shares, and why that surprised her most (20:05) Why the crime is almost always the secondary issue (24:28) From hostage negotiation to the boardroom: Chris Voss, Black Swan Group, and tactical empathy (28:43) The biggest obstacle to listening, and the five levels of listening Black Swan teaches (31:50) The number one struggle business leaders bring to her, and why practicing in "low stakes" moments matters (34:12) Where to find Annette, Black Swan Group, and the new book Fight Less, Win More About Annette Mullin Annette Mullin is a retired Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department leader with 24 years of law enforcement experience, including nine years as a crisis negotiator and eventual leader of LVMPD's crisis negotiation team, one of the busiest in the country. Over her career she worked patrol, community policing, sexual assault, internal affairs, and homicide, becoming LVMPD's first female homicide sergeant, before serving as the department's director of employee wellness in the aftermath of the October 1 Mandalay Bay shooting. Now a negotiation instructor and coach at the Black Swan Group, founded by former FBI lead hostage negotiator Chris Voss, Annette teaches the principles behind Never Split the Difference, including tactical empathy, to leaders, teams, and individuals navigating pressure and conflict in business and life. Learn more at the Black Swan Group, or connect with Annette on LinkedIn. Favorite quotes "There is a universal need for every person to be heard, to be seen, and to be understood."  "Not everybody is like you. Removing assumptions was really key, let them show you or tell you."  "If I read a book about working out every week but never lift a weight, I can't expect to see anything different."  Resources mentioned Black Swan Group: negotiation training founded by former FBI lead hostage negotiator Chris Voss Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss: the book that brings hostage-negotiation principles like tactical empathy into business and everyday life Fight Less, Win More: Chris Voss's newest book, adapting those same skills for personal relationships Annette Mullin on LinkedIn Subscribe & connect If this episode gave you something to sit with, follow Phoenix and Flame so you never miss an episode: all apps in one place, or jump straight to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or YouTube. And if it moved you, leave a review; it's the easiest way to help another listener find the show. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. 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First aired August 16, 2026 For over a decade, Dave Mowry couldn't get out of bed, couldn't shower, and couldn't walk to his own mailbox without waiting until dark so a neighbor wouldn't catch the look in his eyes. In 1994, a psychotic break sent the successful businessman and family man into a depression so deep it cost him his house, his career, and 14 years he calls his "lost years." He slept in his clothes for months at a time. At parties, he'd stand against the wall and pray no one came over to talk to him. Then, at his wife's urging, he walked into a stand-up comedy class for people living with mental illness, and by the second session, something shifted: he started looking for the joke inside the pain. Dave is now a bestselling author, a blogger with over a million reads, a peer support specialist, and, in his own words, "a comic who shatters stigma one joke at a time." We get into what clinical depression actually feels like from the inside, why his wife is the true hero of his story, how a ten-week comedy class became group therapy in disguise, the gentle suicide joke that helped save a young man's life, and why people in the mental health field need to stop trying to "protect" the very people they're meant to be supporting. Watch this episode In this episode Why a 1994 psychotic break sent a successful businessman into 14 "lost years" of homelessness and depression What clinical depression actually feels like: the showers he couldn't take, the mailbox trips timed for after dark, and the panic attacks that came out of nowhere Why "just do something small," like sitting in a different chair, was enough to keep Dave from getting stuck in hopelessness What family members need to understand about mental illness, and how Dave's wife became "the hero of his story" How a NAMI stand-up comedy class turned Dave's pain into laugh-out-loud jokes, and eventually a sold-out show at Helium Comedy Club Dave's gentle suicide joke, why it works, and the night it helped save a young man's life Why people in the helping professions need to stop trying to "save" people with mental illness and start supporting them instead Timestamps (00:01) Welcome and guest intro: meet comic and mental health advocate Dave Mowry (01:16) The 1994 psychotic break, and the 14 "lost years" that followed (03:56) What clinical depression actually feels like: showers, blending into the wall, panic attacks (07:10) The exhausting weight of "just getting out of bed" (08:41) Don't get stuck: the small, deliberate choices that kept hope alive (10:15) What family members need to understand: it's not a moral failing (11:26) Dave's wife, the true hero of his story (14:34) Finding NAMI's stand-up comedy class, and the moment humor clicked (17:59) Selling out Helium Comedy Club, and becoming "a thing" (19:51) Blogging, "OMG, that's me," and shattering stigma one joke at a time (25:32) Teaching comedy: the setup, the punchline, and getting students to open up (26:10) Dave's gentle suicide joke, and the night it helped save a life (32:42) Boundaries, mania, and giving himself permission to say no (37:25) Where to find Dave, his books, and how to reach him About Dave Mowry Dave Mowry is a bestselling author, blogger, and stand-up comic who shatters stigma one joke at a time. After a 1994 psychotic break led to 14 "lost years" of severe depression, homelessness, and hospitalization, Dave found his way back through NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) and a stand-up comedy class for people living with mental illness. He went on to sell out Portland's Helium Comedy Club, teach comedy classes to people living with mental illness, and become a peer support specialist. He's the author of OMG, That's Me! and Healing with Humor, and his blog for bphope.com has been read over a million times. Learn more and get in touch at Dave's website, or reach him directly at davemowry2@gmail.com. Favorite quotes "It's not a moral failing. It's a medical condition." —Dave Mowry "Afterwards, I called my wife for help. She said, 'There are more pills under the sink.'" —Dave Mowry, on the gentle suicide joke that's helped save lives "We don't need to be saved. Support us and all that, but don't try to save us. We don't need it." —Dave Mowry Resources mentioned Dave's website: home to his books and a contact form OMG, That's Me!: Dave's bestselling book on what it's really like to live with a mental illness, available on Amazon and Kindle Healing with Humor: Dave's newest book, telling the story of six comedy-class students and their transformation NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness): the organization that connected Dave to the comedy class that changed his life Helium Comedy Club (Portland): where Dave's class sold out a 185-seat show Subscribe & connect If this episode gave you something to sit with,

In this episode, Dana is joined by Kurt Bush, a trauma-informed coach who helps leaders move from imposter syndrome to authentic confidence. Kurt shares his own journey with imposter syndrome, from feeling like a fraud in corporate leadership meetings to realizing his true calling. He explains that to make a change, the pain of staying the same must become greater than the pain of changing, a threshold many of us fear crossing. Kurt introduces the ERT (Encounter + Reflection = Transformation) framework, a practical approach to help you get unstuck. He reveals why the first step to moving forward is often learning to "start stopping" the things that drain your energy, allowing you to create a life that is truly aligned with who you are.  Kurt's Website Kurt's Linkedin ------------- Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here: Book Dana for your next speaking event or workshop

In this episode, Dana is joined by midlife and burnout coach Jody Brooks, who shares his story of hitting rock bottom. His "pile of ash" moment came in a restroom cubicle, crying so hard he could barely breathe, realizing burnout was a full-body shutdown. This crisis became his calling, leading him to drive home and completely re-evaluate his life. Jody reveals how he learned that feeling lost in midlife isn't a crisis, but a calling to connect with your authentic self. He introduces his practical framework for authentic living, explaining why the first step to moving forward is to "start stopping" what no longer serves you.  Jody's Website  Jody's Linkedin ----------- Watch this episode. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Book Dana for your next speaking event or workshop. ----------- My MicDrop links ↓ Mic Drop Webinar Mic Drop Workshop Mic Drop Bootcamp

In this episode, Dana is joined by Aaron Ryan, a best-selling author who has navigated the highs and lows of a creative career. Aaron shares his deeply personal journey, from his early days in the toxic "Illuminati" of the voiceover world to the devastating breakdown that became his greatest breakthrough. He reveals the story of hitting rock bottom, crying on his bathroom floor, and clinging to the one quote that kept him going: "The temptation to quit is always greatest just before your greatest success." Aaron offers invaluable wisdom on overcoming imposter syndrome, the profound joy of holding your creation in your hands, and why hope is the most powerful tool for any artist. Aaron's website Join Aaron's community ------------------- Watch this episode. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Book Dana for your next speaking event or workshop.  

In this episode, Dana is joined by Rebecca Russell, a metabolism and lifestyle coach who turned her own health crises into a calling. After receiving a prediabetes warning and later battling a debilitating, multi-year struggle with chronic pain that led to a fibromyalgia diagnosis, Rebecca rejected the traditional path of symptom management. She shares her journey of listening to her body, doing her own "homework," and demanding answers until she found the true root cause of her suffering. Rebecca reveals how she reclaimed her life through a holistic approach, using natural solutions like essential oils to get off medication and restore her well-being.  Rebecca's Website ———————- Watch this episode. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Book Dana for your next speaking event or workshop.  

In this episode, Dana is joined by Chris Shurian, a self-proclaimed "entrepreholic" who has spent 39 years building, operating, breaking, and resurrecting companies. Chris shares his story of achieving massive success only to face financial devastation during the 2008 recession. He reveals the mindset of an entrepreholic (where chasing new business opportuntities and building companies feels addicting) and how that can be both a superpower and a critical weakness. Chris explains why life balance isn't a luxury but a core business strategy, and how setting firm boundaries from day one is the only way to play the long game without burning out.  Chris's Website Chris's Linkedin ---------------------- Watch this episode. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Book Dana for your next speaking event or workshop.

In this episode, Dana is joined by Dr. Anthony Silard, a professor of Leadership and Organizational Psychology and author of Love and Suffering. Dr. Silard dives into the modern epidemic of loneliness, revealing the surprising fact that the youngest generation is now the loneliest. He shares his powerful framework for breaking the "emotional chains" that hold us back, distinguishing between the negative pull of loneliness and the positive strength of solitude. Dr. Silard challenges the cliché of "forgive and forget," offering a new model where forgiveness is for personal development, but trust is for relationship development.  Anthony's FREE Books Anthony's Website ---------------------- Watch this episode. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Book Dana for your next speaking event or workshop.

In this episode, Dana is joined by Mark DeCarlo, an Emmy-winning comedian and author who makes a compelling case that the most important job you have is to be happy. Mark shares how a near-death experience in high school completely reoriented his life, teaching him to use happiness as the ultimate "North Star" for every decision. He argues that fear is always self-destructive and that failure isn't just an option: it's a requirement for discovering your purpose. Mark offers a simple yet profound framework for identifying what truly brings you joy and challenges the myth that you have to suffer now to be happy later.  Mark's Website Mark's Instagram  ---------------------- Watch this episode. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Book Dana for your next speaking event or workshop.

In this episode, Dana is joined by Joanna Lilley, a therapeutic consultant who specializes in helping "emerging adults" navigate the overwhelming transition into adulthood. Joanna explains why today's young people are more anxious and "stuck" than ever, often feeling paralyzed by too many choices and a lack of external structure after college. She offers a compassionate yet direct roadmap for both parents and young adults, tackling tough questions like: Will your child be able to survive without you? And is that a real boundary or just distress intolerance? Joanna provides several strategies for building life skills, finding forward momentum outside of a traditional career path, and fostering independence without fear. Joanna's Website Joanna's Linkedin Joanna's Podcast

In this episode, Dana is joined by Mandi Pratt, a speaker and self-leadership expert who turned a life-shattering crisis into a powerful mission. Mandi shares the harrowing story of leaving an abusive marriage only to discover her ex-husband was wanted by the FBI for a string of bank robberies, a plot twist that left her feeling completely burned to the ground. She reveals her raw and honest journey of moving from constant survival mode to a life of clarity, confidence, and inner stability. Mandi explains why trusting your intuition is a critical survival skill and offers practical tools, like creating a "happy list," to help you regulate your nervous system and reclaim your sense of safety. Take The Free Quiz Mandi's Site Mandi's Podcast Learn more about Phoenix and Flame & watch more episodes HERE

In this episode, Dana is joined by Dianne Andree, an award-winning speaker and burnout prevention specialist who shares her own journey of standing on the brink of exhaustion. After years in education and leadership, Dianne realized the "hurry culture" and a constant pressure to achieve were draining her energy and purpose. She reveals how she learned to fight back against burnout not just with self-care, but by harnessing the "power of pause," setting firm boundaries, and learning to say no in order to say yes to what truly matters. Dianne offers practical strategies for high performers to stop "shoulding" on themselves, reconnect with the present moment, and build a life of sustainable energy and authentic achievement.  Watch This Podcast Dianne's Linkedin Dianne's Site & Free Guide

In this episode, Dana is joined by Jackie Miller, a high-conflict divorce coach who shares her own story of surviving a 16.5-year narcissistic marriage. Jackie details the nature of covert abuse, from the "frog in boiling water" beginning to the complete financial control that left her feeling trapped and erased. She reveals how the abuse escalated post-separation, with her ex-husband weaponizing the legal system to continue his campaign of control. Jackie shares her rock-bottom moment wandering her backyard in a daze, and the powerful epiphany that allowed her to see the manipulation for the game it was. She now provides the strategic guidance she wishes she'd had, helping women reclaim their power, disengage from the chaos, and finally win without playing the narcissist's game.  Jackie's Website Jackie's Linkedin Watch This Episode

In this episode, Dana is joined by Holly Kostrzewski, an international keynote speaker whose life was first shattered by a traumatic brain injury at 18 that forced her to relearn how to walk, talk, and read. Just as she rebuilt her life, she faced a second "burn" when her father became a paraplegic, thrusting her into the role of a caretaker. Holly shares her powerful story of resilience and how losing her federal job became the third flame that forged her true calling. She introduces her "Junk Drawer" philosophy—a transformative guide to stop hiding the hard parts of our lives and instead use them as a source of strength, connection, and humor.  Holly's Instagram Holly's Site Watch the full episode + learn more about Phoenix and Flame

In this episode, Dana is joined by Emma Lyons, a trauma-informed healer who exposes the true identity of our harshest inner critic. Emma shares her harrowing journey of being the scapegoat in a dysfunctional family with a covert narcissistic mother, and how that trauma manifested as a paralyzing "shame voice." She reveals her powerful realization that this voice isn't just self-doubt; it's an internalized narcissist that acts like a parasite, sabotaging success, visibility, and peace. Emma provides a revolutionary framework for "breaking up" with this internal abuser, challenging the very idea of "healthy shame" and offering listeners a path to reclaim their power, their voice, and their right to be "shameless." Emma's Linkedin Emma's Substack Emma's Free Guide

In this episode, Dana is joined by leadership advisor Chris Gillen, who shares his powerful journey of growing up in a family of "professional victims." This experience became the foundation for his work in helping leaders escape what he calls "The Villain Trap"—a destructive cycle of blame that erodes company culture and personal power. Chris reveals how ego prevents us from accepting accountability and how this silent pattern plays out in the workplace. He claims that the next generation of leaders must embrace authenticity, humility, and vulnerability to navigate the massive cultural shifts transforming our world. The Villain Trap Book Chris Gillen's Linkedin

In this episode, Dana is joined by Clay Moffat, an ex-Navy weapons tech turned behavioral coach and author of The Trust Trap. Clay offers a radical reframe on trust, arguing it isn't a character trait but a dynamic process of alignment that requires constant evaluation. He reveals why we are the "authors of our own pain" and how we unknowingly fall into the "trust trap" by creating a frozen mental image of others and ignoring real-time data. Clay breaks down the psychology of betrayal, arguing that the most significant betrayals are often the ones we commit against ourselves by ignoring our intuition.  Clay's Website The Trust Trap Book

In this episode, Dana is joined by Cathy Nesbitt, an innovator who turned a city-wide garbage crisis into a thriving entrepreneurial mission. Cathy shares her incredible journey from a secretary to the founder of Cathy's Crawley Composters and Cathy's Laughter Club. She reveals how she overcame the universal "ew" factor of her worm business and navigated the profound challenges of entrepreneurship, including losing her family's main source of income right as her business launched. Cathy explains why failure is always better than regret and teaches us how to find our "daily dose" of happiness through the science of laughter.  Cathy's Linkedin Cathy's Site | Join Laughter Yoga 

In this episode, Dana is joined by Dr. Victoria Mattingly, an organizational psychologist who is transforming workplace cultures by blending research with lived experience. Dr. Mattingly shares how her personal journeys through cancer, alopecia, and mental health recovery became the bedrock of her professional mission to build more human-centered and equitable organizations. She challenges us to reframe "soft skills" as essential "power skills" and offers a profound, partnership-based model for allyship. This is a powerful conversation about finding strength in vulnerability and using our deepest struggles to lead with more empathy and impact. Dr. Mattingly's Linkedin Dr. Mattingly's Site

In this episode, Dana is joined by Sarah Brown, a Christian author and speaker who helps women find hope when life gets tough. Sarah shares her raw and honest journey of navigating an unexpected divorce, the shock of single motherhood, and the crisis of faith that followed. She reveals how her relationship with God shifted from transactional to deeply relational in her darkest moments, and how she learned to find purpose in her pain. This is a powerful conversation about what it means to heal when you feel broken, and how to believe that even from ashes, something beautiful can bloom. Sarah's Linkedin Sarah's Website  

In this episode, Dana is joined by award-winning actress Brianna Brown Keen, who shares her journey of overcoming immense personal obstacles. From battling severe bullying that led to hospitalization as a teen, to facing a career-threatening injury, Brianna reveals how she learned to reframe her struggles as opportunities for growth. She explains how the tenacity and grit she developed became the foundation for her successful Hollywood career and her nonprofit, The New Hollywood. Brianna provides powerful insights on manifesting your mission, the importance of community, and why getting comfortable with being uncomfortable is the ultimate key to achieving your purpose. Brianna's Linkedin Brianna's Website | Manifesting Your Mission

In this episode, Dana is joined by Amy Siegfried, a networking expert and entrepreneur who transforms how people build professional relationships. Amy shares her personal journey from an "awkward kid" struggling to fit in to a master of small talk, revealing how embracing vulnerability became her greatest tool for connection. She explains why the most common networking question—"what do you do?"—is holding you back and offers powerful alternatives to spark genuine conversations.  Amy's Linkedin Amy's Website

In this episode, Dana is joined by Dr. Albert Bramante, a talent agent, performance coach, and Psychology professor who unpacks the hidden mental blocks holding creators back. Dr. Bramante shares his unique journey from studying the human mind to managing performing artists, revealing how he discovered a pattern of self-sabotage driven by deep-seated fears. He explains how subconscious beliefs, often formed in childhood, can manifest as career-stalling behaviors. Dr. Bramante offers powerful tools to overcome these hurdles, from the science behind "power poses" and NLP to the transformative potential of hypnotherapy and the non-negotiable importance of setting firm boundaries to prevent burnout.  Dr. Bramante's Linkedin Dr. Bramante's Website

In this episode, Dana is joined by Rhonda Britten, an Emmy Award-winning master coach whose life was forged in unimaginable tragedy. At just 14 years old, Rhonda witnessed her father murder her mother before taking his own life—an event that sent her into a 20-year spiral of guilt and self-destruction. After three suicide attempts, Ronda had a profound realization: she was meant to live and she had a purpose. She shares journey of hitting rock bottom and how that pain became her greatest teacher. Rhonda also reveals how she developed the "Wheel of Fear" to understand the hidden fears that drive us and provides a powerful framework for moving from a life of trauma and reaction to one of authentic freedom and purpose. Rhonda's Linkedin Rhonda's Site Rhonda's Books Rhonda's Free Course

In this episode, Dana is joined by Jessica Hallahan, a stress management expert who turned a personal health crisis into a powerful mission. At just 24, Jessica was hospitalized due to severe burnout, a rock-bottom moment that became her greatest teacher. She shares her raw and honest journey of how over-commitment and a lack of boundaries nearly broke her, and how she learned to rebuild her life from the ground up. Jessica reveals why saying "no" is a form of self-care, how to break the cycle of people-pleasing, and why clear communication is the antidote to 80% of workplace stress. She provides practical tools for setting flexible, healthy boundaries that allow you to move from a life of constant pressure to one of authentic purpose and peace. Jessica's Linkedin Jessica's Site

In this episode, Dana is joined by Heather Powers, a corporate executive and founder who masterfully navigated the complexities of building a career while raising a family. Heather shares her candid journey from a small town in New Hampshire to the boardrooms of Washington D.C., revealing how the pandemic crystallized her mission to advocate for working mothers. We discuss the outdated corporate structures that hold women back and why leaders must recognize the immense value working parents bring to the table. If you've ever felt torn between your career ambitions and family responsibilities, this episode is a reminder that you are not alone and your skills are needed now more than ever. Heather's Linkedin Heather's Website

In this episode, Dana is joined by Dr. Cali Estes, an addictions coach and entrepreneur who built a new path to recovery after her own journey through an eating disorder and prescription pill addiction. Dr. Estes shares her raw and honest story of hitting rock bottom—and how a doctor's blunt warning became her ultimate wake-up call. She reveals how she discovered healing not in traditional meetings, but on a yoga mat, and used that experience to challenge the one-size-fits-all recovery model. This conversation explores why your vice is a solution, not a problem, and how to create lasting change by finding what truly works for you. Dr. Cali's LinkedIn Dr. Cali's Website 

In this episode, Dana is joined by Kate Semeniuk, a Rapid Transformational Hypnotherapist, to explore the unseen forces in our minds that hold us back. Have you ever known logically what you need to do—like set a boundary or say no—but found yourself unable to act? Kate reveals how subconscious beliefs, often formed in childhood, create these internal conflicts. She explains that fear and suppressed anger are not weaknesses but misguided protection strategies from a younger self. This conversation is for anyone ready to stop fighting their own mind and finally align their actions with their intentions, reclaiming control over their life and happiness. Kate's LinkedIn Kate's Website

In this episode, Dana is joined by Michael Levitt, founder of the Breakfast Leadership Network and self proclaimed "Chief Burnout Officer." Michael shares his personal story of being a high-achieving executive who pushed himself to the brink, working 6 AM to 11 PM seven days a week. This relentless drive led to a year of devastating consequences, including a near-fatal heart attack, job loss during the recession, and home foreclosure. He reveals how that immense pain became his greatest teacher, forcing him to recognize the dangerous red flags of burnout that so many driven entrepreneurs ignore. Michael's Linkedin Breakfast Leadership

In this episode, Dana is joined by Matt Gerlach, an entrepreneur who helped scale startups to 7 and 8-figures, only to find himself battling a severe mental health crisis after launching his own business. Matt shares his raw and honest journey of hitting rock bottom and how that pain became his greatest teacher. He reveals how he learned to reframe his struggles as "wake-up calls," setting firm boundaries to move from a survival-driven mindset to a life of authentic purpose and freedom. Matt's Linkedin Matt's Website

Host Dana Skaggs sits down with Abagail McKiernan, founder of the nonprofit HelpLink, to uncover the deeply personal story that inspired her mission. What began as a moment of isolation became a movement rooted in unconditional generosity. Together, they explore how giving without expectation can restore dignity, forge authentic community, and remind us that the kindness we extend often finds its way back when we need it most. Abagail's Linkedin  HelpLink

In this episode of Phoenix and Flame, host Dana Skaggs sits down with three-time bestselling author and forgiveness coach Katharine Giovanni to talk about the idea of forgiveness—we're told to do it, but rarely taught how. Katharine explains that forgiveness isn't about excusing someone's behavior or even reconciling with them; it's a tool for your own healing. She shares a practical, step-by-step method for releasing the emotional charge from painful memories so you can stop letting people live “rent-free” in your head. Along the way, she highlights the connection between forgiveness and boundaries, showing that letting go of anger doesn't mean letting someone back into your life. Katharine's Linkedin Katharine's Website  

In this episode, host Dana Skaggs sits down with Kristal Desantis to talk about why traditional masculinity is struggling in modern relationships. Kristal describes what she calls the “broken script,” where old-school roles of men as sole protectors and providers clash with today's need for emotional partnership. This leaves a lot of men caught in a “masculinity trap”—criticized for being too stoic but judged when they open up. The two dive into topics like emotional safety, touch starvation, and the pressure to measure up to narrow definitions of worth. Kristal also shares her “STRONG” model, a down-to-earth framework to help men move past performative roles and create healthier, more genuine connections. Kristal's Linkedin Kristal's Website

In this episode, host Dana Skaggs is joined by fellow boundaries coach Barb Nangle, who shares her journey of navigating what she calls "relational trauma." She reveals how trauma can take the form of a quiet, ongoing pattern of emotional invalidation, not just a sudden, explosive moment. Through 12-step recovery, Barb discovered a path to healing and reframes boundary-setting as an act of integrity and peace rather than confrontation. This conversation offers insight into how these practices can help you live with greater alignment and purpose. Barb's Linkedin Barb's Website

Join host Dana Skaggs and organizational researcher Craig Mattson as they dive into the pressures of the modern workplace. Using powerful metaphors like "the wave" of digital overwhelm and the "life raft" of coping strategies, they explore why remote work often feels confusing and detached. The conversation tackles the big question: "Should I quit if my job feels meaningless?" Craig reveals the four distinct ways people find purpose—from changing the world to simply surviving the day. Ultimately, they argue that in an era of constant change, your greatest skill isn't what you do, but your ability to adapt your perspective and find meaning, even if it feels like you're just a cup of water in an ocean. Craig's Linkedin Craig's Blog

In this episode, Matt O'Neill reveals how to achieve "conscious happiness" even when life feels chaotic. He explains that the common belief of "I'll be happy when..." is a deceptive trap that keeps us constantly striving but never satisfied. Matt reframes negative moods not as personal flaws, but as predictable functions of our "survival brain" that can be overcome. His solution is a set of simple, powerful habits—like gratitude and affirmations—that can be woven into your busiest days without taking extra time. This episode teaches you the skills to stop waiting for perfection and start being happy while life is messy. Matt's Linkedin Matt's Website  

In this episode, Dana Skaggs is joined by neurodiversity advocate Khushboo Chabria, who shares her journey to empowerment after a late-in-life ADHD diagnosis. Khushboo explains why feeling misunderstood isn't a personal failure but often a sign of a workplace culture that lacks true acceptance. She introduces a powerful mindset shift: replacing judgment with "compassionate curiosity." Learn how to stop trying to “fix” yourself, advocate for your unique needs, and find the environment where you can truly thrive. Khushboo's Linkedin  

In this episode, Dana is joined by coach Arnold Beekes to talk about his journey from a rigid upbringing rooted in extreme conformity to a life of authenticity. Arnold shares how most of us are "conditioned" from a young age, losing sight of what we truly want and living to meet other people's expectations. He breaks down why comparison is a trap and introduces the “Art of Unconditioning”—a process for taking back your power. Learn how to stop chasing approval, start owning your uniqueness, and build the self-confidence to live a life that's truly your own. Arnold's Website Arnold's Linkedin  

In this episode, Brad Chandler shares his journey of overcoming unresolved childhood trauma. Brad reveals how his subconscious belief of "not being enough" led to two divorces, millions in business losses, and struggles with anxiety and addiction. He explains that these negative behaviors were not flaws, but outdated survival mechanisms created by his brain in childhood. His breakthrough came not from traditional therapy, but through memory reconsolidation—a technique that rewrites the faulty neural pathways driving these actions. By accessing the subconscious mind, he was able to heal the root cause of his pain. Brad's Linkedin Brad's Linktree  

In this episode of Phoenix and Flame, Dana Skaggs welcomes Dr. Marie-Hélène Pelletier, psychologist, executive coach, and author of The Resilience Plan, to discuss the critical role of mental health and resilience in high-performing professionals. Together, they explore why winging it doesn't work when it comes to stress, how leaders often overlook their own mental health, and the power of having a personalized, strategic resilience plan. Dr. Pelletier explains how to plan for life's challenges before they hit and why boundaries, clarity, and mental fitness are key to thriving rather than just surviving. The conversation emphasizes that building resilience is not a sign of weakness; it is essential for long-term success, especially in fast-paced or high-demand environments.  Dr. Pelletier's Linkedin The Resilience Plan

In this episode of Phoenix and Flame, fitness coach and entrepreneur Petar Krastev shares how he went from arriving in the UK with just 10 Euros in his pocket to building a life grounded in faith, fitness, and entrepreneurship. He opens up about facing homelessness, toxic relationships, and the challenges of supporting a child in his early years—yet still finding the drive to keep moving forward. Petar explains how maintaining a fitness routine gave him strength when everything else was falling apart, and how his faith completely shifted his path, opening unexpected doors in both life and business.  Petar's Linkedin Petar's Website

In this episode of Phoenix and Flame, host Dana Skaggs welcomes happiness coach and co-founder of Limitless You, Yvonne Trost. Together, they explore the powerful journey of personal transformation. Yvonne shares her own inspiring story of overcoming significant life challenges including a devastating apartment fire, a difficult marriage, and a career change before learning to be herself again. She introduces a transformative three-step framework, emphasizing the crucial role of self-compassion and curiosity in breaking free from limiting beliefs and fears. The discussion continues into the science of neuroplasticity, the power of the imagination, and the importance of shifting from negative "what if" thinking to a more empowering "why not" approach. Lastly, Yvonne provides listeners with practical tools and resources for self-discovery, offering a clear path to unlock their limitless potential and create a more fulfilling life. Yvonne's Linkedin Yvonne's Website  

Victoria Pelletier is a highly accomplished corporate executive, board director, and author known as the "Turnaround Queen." She shares her remarkable journey of resilience, rising from a challenging childhood to achieving executive leadership roles by the age of 24 through sheer grit and determination. Along the way, she faced obstacles such as imposter syndrome and navigating bias as a queer woman in corporate environments. Victoria emphasizes the importance of DEI in the workplace and highlights the benefits of creating inclusive environments for all employees. She also offers practical advice on setting boundaries both personally and professionally and finding fulfillment beyond career success. Victoria's Books  Victoria's LinkedIn

Robert Hunt, also known as “The Accountability Guy,” is the co-author of Nobody Cares Until You Do. In this episode, Robert opens up about his journey—how he dug himself out of deep debt and a victim mindset by leaning into personal accountability. He breaks down the difference between just being responsible and actually owning your actions and outcomes. Along the way, he calls out some common traps we all fall into like blaming others, making excuses, saying “I can't,” or just waiting around for things to change. Robert emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, even asking tough questions like, “Am I the common denominator in these conflicts?” He also talks about overcoming shame by separating your self-worth from your performance in work, relationships, or other roles.  Robert's Book Robert's Linkedin  

Winnie Rodgers, a real estate expert and marketing strategist, shares her journey of transformation and resilience. She discusses the importance of listening to one's intuition, navigating personal and professional boundaries, and empowering women in sales and entrepreneurship. Winnie shares her experiences in the real estate industry, the challenges of maintaining authenticity, and the significance of morning rituals for grounding oneself. The conversation emphasizes the need for self-discovery and the power of community support among women. Winnie's website Winnie's Instagram profile  

In this enlightening conversation, Mette Reebirk, an author and executive coach, shares her journey from corporate leadership to entrepreneurship. Mette emphasizes the importance of questioning our thoughts and narratives, understanding the connection between thoughts and emotions, and the power of self-reflection. She discusses the impact of leadership on personal well-being, the necessity of empathy in relationships, and the challenges of embracing diversity. Mette advocates for mindfulness and living in the moment, encouraging listeners to capture their thoughts and emotions while fostering curiosity and connection with others. Mette's Linked In page

In this solo episode, Dana Skaggs explores the complexities of setting and defending personal boundaries. She discusses the importance of understanding one's own emotional landscape, the fear of rejection, and the impact of past wounds on current behavior. Dana emphasizes the need for self-awareness and the role of support systems in navigating these challenges. Dana's Linked In Page Dana's website

Marni Battista, an entrepreneur, author, and transformational coach, shares her journey of rebuilding her life and finding meaning after experiencing hardships. She emphasizes the importance of creating a life that aligns with one's values and desires. Marni also discusses the challenges of dating and the need for self-love and self-worth in the dating process. She provides insights on overcoming comparison despair and finding clarity in one's financial situation. Marni's approach focuses on inner growth and empowerment to create a meaningful and fulfilling life. Marni's website Another route to Marni's website Marni's book: How to Find a Quality Guy: Without Going on 200 Dates Marni's book: Becoming Irresistible: How to Effortlessly Have Men Pursue You, Treat You Like a Goddess, and Commit to You for Life Marni's LATEST book! Your Radical Living Challenge

H. Jackson Calame, a visionary entrepreneur, shares his journey of overcoming challenges and setting boundaries to pursue his passion. He discusses the importance of finding purpose and belonging, as well as the power of saying no.  Jackson emphasizes the need to treat others with respect and care, especially in the business world. He also highlights the value of perseverance and transformation in the face of adversity. Jackson Calame discusses the challenges and doubts that entrepreneurs face on their journey. Dana and Jackson share personal stories of dealing with external and internal voices of doubt and criticism. They emphasize the importance of self-acceptance and self-love in overcoming these challenges and staying true to one's vision. They also discuss the value of building authentic relationships and connections in business.  https://visionproslive.com

Sarah Jantausch shares her journey of being a high-performing perfectionist and experiencing burnout. She started her career in government and quickly climbed the ladder, always thinking the next promotion would make her happy. However, she realized that she was designing her entire life and career around the value of achievement, which led to burnout. Sarah emphasizes the importance of values alignment and how feeling stressed, burned out, or stuck can be signs of a mismatch. She suggests identifying core values, seeking outside perspectives, and running experiments to explore new career paths. Setting boundaries and reframing the stories others have for us are also crucial in making a career change. Sarah's website