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Send us a textGianna Toboni's book, The Volunteer: The Failure of the Death Penalty in America and One Inmate's Quest to Die with Dignity, is a morally provocative chronicle about Scott Dozier, a former Army Ranger, who was sentenced to death, and “volunteered” for the death penalty.  Dozier had been convicted of murder, sentenced to death, and ultimately demanded the state enforce its own penalty.  What unfolds in Toboni's book is a story not just about death, but also about the bureaucratic, moral, and psychological theater that surrounds it.  As the book makes clear, Dozier was not a hero or a martyr.  Nonetheless, in Dozier's story Toboni has put a magnifying glass on the contradictions of a system that claims to value life, even while enforcing the ultimate penalty, death.  Toboni is an Emmy-award winning journalist and documentary film maker.  The Volunteer, her debut book, was published by Simon and Schuster in April 2025.  We're grateful she included the JustPod among other notable stops (including The Daily Show and Comedy Central!) on her first book tour. 

Send us a textIt was a pleasure to welcome Leonard Ambrose to the JustPod to discuss his representation of the notorious defendant Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong.  Ambrose obtained an acquittal of Armstrong after she shot her boyfriend six times as he lay on a couch in 1984.  But Armstrong is possibly more well known for her eventual murder conviction in the bizarre Pizza Bomber case in Erie, Pennsylvania—the subject of the Netflix series “Evil Genius.”  That case arose from the August 28, 2003 robbery of a bank in Erie Township by Brian Wells, a pizza delivery man.  What made the robbery so unusual, and so macabre, was the locked collar around Mr. Wells' neck when he entered the bank.  The collar contained a ticking time bomb that, after a standoff with Pennsylvania law enforcement, exploded, resulting in Mr. Wells' death.  Armstrong was sentenced to life imprisonment, plus 30 years, and died in prison in 2017 of natural causes—unlike her victims.

Send us a text[What was it like to defend clients in prosecutions arising out of events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021?  A discussion with defense counsel Rocco Cipparone and Angie Levy]Following the events at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, the federal government initiated one of the largest investigations and prosecutions in American history, ultimately charging nearly 1,600 defendants.  Those charges resulted in about 1,270 convictions (most, for misdemeanor offenses).  Upon entering Office on January 21, 2025, President Trump fulfilled a campaign promise in granting clemency to these defendants—pardoning or commuting the sentences of those convicted, and ordering the dismissal, by the U.S. Department of Justice, of remaining pending cases.  We had the opportunity to talk with two guests who had a front-row seat to the January 6 prosecutions, through their representation of clients in January 6 trials held in federal court in Washington, D.C.  Rocco Cipparone and Angie Levy are two well-regarded and respected members of the Philadelphia and New Jersey criminal defense communities, and recognized as terrific trial lawyers.  It was a great pleasure to have them with us to discuss the January 6 prosecutions.

Send us a textIn Philadelphia, a city known for great trial lawyers, our next guest stands out among them.  Brian McMonagle began his career in the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office where in his twenties he became one of the youngest lawyers to prosecute high profile cases in the DA's Homicide Unit.  Since then, Brian has gone on to represent actor Bill Cosby in a criminal trial, musical artist Meek Mill on a controversial probation violation proceeding, and other high-profile clients—among them athletes, politicians, physicians, movie and television personalities, judges, prosecutors, law enforcement officers, and CEOs.  And with all this, as you'll hear in the great discussion we had with him, Brian has not lost his Philly roots, or the common touch.

Send us a textPlease join co-hosts Joe Whitley and Nina Marino for an insightful discussion with our distinguished guest, Karen Popp. Karen, a partner at Sidley Austin, is a highly regarded and well-known leader in the field of white collar defense, internal investigations, crisis management, and compliance. Before joining Sidley, Karen served as Associate White House Counsel to the President of the United States, where she advised President Clinton and the White House staff on congressional and grand jury investigations and domestic policy issues. Prior to joining the White House, Karen served in the Office of Legal Counsel at the U.S. Department of Justice where she advised Attorney General Janet Reno and the Department, the White House and other agencies of the executive branch on a wide range of legal matters. Before moving to Washington, D.C., Karen was an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York. Karen is also the co-founder and global chair of the Women's White Collar Defense Association (WWCDA).

Send us a textWe are pleased to share with you our latest podcast with the Honorable Larry D. Thompson.  Thompson has had extensive leadership experience in both the private and public sectors.  He served as U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia (1981-1986) and led major political corruption and drug trafficking prosecutions during his tenure at the Department.  Thompson also led the Southern Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force.  In 1995, he was named independent counsel for the Department of Housing and Urban Development.  In 2000, Thompson was selected by Congress to chair the bi-partisan Judicial Review Commission on Foreign Asset Control.  In 2001, Thompson was confirmed by the Senate as Deputy Attorney General of the United States.  And in 2002, Thompson led the National Security Coordination Counsel at the Department of Justice.  Thompson was also General Counsel for PepsiCo and was founding co-chair of King & Spalding's special matters and government investigations practice.  Mr. Thompson recently published a book "Quiet Counsel."

Send us a textThis segment of “White Collar Talks with Nina and Joe” features former United States Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, Dena King.  Guest co-host is Lynsey Barron.

Send us a textOn the morning of July 19, 2014, Florida State University Law Professor Dan Markel—a friend and mentor to Justin, and to so many others—was shot and killed in his driveway in Tallahassee, Florida.  Dan was 41 years old, and the father of two little boys, ages 4 and 3, one of whom was just days away from his next birthday.  The loss of Dan to his family, his friends, and colleagues, is incalculable.  Dan's Mom, Ruth, graciously shared her time to discuss Dan's tragic death, her transition from grief to advocacy, the remarkable police work leading to the arrests of Dan's former brother-in-law, and others, and the convictions resulting in life sentences of several coconspirators.  Dan was a wonderful person, a brilliant scholar—ironically, focusing on justice and punishment—and is greatly missed by all who knew and loved him.  We are honored to dedicate this episode of the JustPod in Dan's memory.Link to "Justice for Dan"

Send us a textLarry Pozner is perhaps the most sought-after teacher of cross-examination strategy and tactics.  In over 400 lectures, he has taught generations of lawyers how to more effectively conduct this most important of courtroom examinations—what John Henry Wigmore, the legal scholar of evidence, called the "greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth."  Larry's book, Cross-Examination: Science and Techniques, which he co-authored with Roger Dodd, is America's best-selling book on cross-examination.  It was a great honor to have the King of Cross join the JustPod for an enlightening discussion 

Send us a textWe welcomed back Elizabeth Kelley (who previously joined us on Nov 16, 2023), to talk about the recent publication of the second edition of her book, Representing People with Mental Disabilities: A Practical Guide for Criminal Defense Lawyers, published by the American Bar Association.  The book is a collection of 19 essays by lawyers, scholars, and clinical experts in the field of mental health and criminal defense.  Elizabeth Kelley is also the Editor of the volumes Representing People with Dementia, and Representing People With Autism Spectrum Disorder.  Elizabeth Kelley is a criminal defense lawyer with a national practice focusing on representation of people with mental disabilities.

Send us a textEver wondered about the mental health toll on members of a death penalty “Execution Team”?  We discuss this topic and others on the JustPod with two men who are both familiar with the practice of lethal injection, but for very different reasons.   Ron McAndrew is a retired Warden at Florida State Prison, where he led the Execution Team, supervised the execution of three inmates by electric chair, and observed the execution of others by lethal injection, before becoming a death penalty opponent.  Ron explains where the bodies of the executed are buried if no family claims them for private burial, and his decision to stop taking the Execution Team for the traditional post-execution breakfast, after he ran into an executed inmate's defense counsel at the same restaurant.  Dr. Shanker Nesathurai is a Professor of Medicine at McMaster University in Canada.  His article, “America's Continuing Experience With Lethal Injection Executions,” appears in the Fall 2024 edition of Criminal Justice Magazine, published by the Criminal Justice Section of the American Bar Association.

Send us a text Earlier this year, in February 2024, the ABA launched its Prosecutorial Independence Task Force.  Two of our guests, Professor Ellen Yaroshefsky (Hofstra Law School), and John Choi (Ramsey County Attorney in Ramsey County, Minnesota), are co-chairs of the Task Force.  John has the distinction of being the first Korean American Chief Prosecutor in the United States.  Our third guest, J. Charles (“Charlie”) Smith III, is the State's Attorney for Frederick County, Maryland, and is the longest serving State's Attorney in Maryland.  Charlie is also a member of the ABA Taskforce on Prosecutorial Independence, as well as the Chair of the Board at the National District Attorneys Association. 

Send us a textJoe Whitley and Nina Marino speak with Michael E. Horowitz, Inspector General of the United States Department of Justice.  Previously having served a six-year term as a Commissioner of the U.S. Sentencing Commission (2003-2009), Mr. Horowitz was sworn in on April 16, 2012 as Inspector General, following his confirmation by the U.S. Senate.  As Inspector General, Mr. Horowitz oversees 500+ special agents, auditors, inspectors, attorneys, and support staff nationwide.  Since 2020 he has also led the Pandemic Response Accountability Committee.  From 2015-2020 Mr. Horowitz served as Chair of the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency (CIGIE).  Follow along with Joe and Nina as Mr. Horowitz shares with listeners about his early decision to enter the legal field, his journey from college to present day, and a glimpse into what the future may hold. 

Send us a textOur guest is the founding partner of the white collar criminal defense boutique Kaplan Marino, and co-host of our sister podcast, the ABA's “White Collar Talks with Nina and Joe.”  She is the recipient of the American Bar Association Criminal Justice Section's (CJS) Charles English Award, the highest accolade for excellence in criminal justice, and recently secured an unusual verdict of acquittal in a federal public corruption case in the District of Hawaii.  We're thrilled to welcome Nina Marino to the JustPod!

Send us a textJoin us for another "White Collar Talks" podcast as Joe Whitley and Nina Marino interview William J. Hochul, Jr., a former United States Attorney and former General Counsel of a highly diversified, government-regulated global business.  Mr. Hochul was also a prior member of the Board of Directors of a large healthcare provider and employer.  Recently joining the law firm of Davis Polk, Mr. Hochul shares his experiences throughout his career and his transition to private practice. 

Send us a textPremal Dharia is Executive Director of the Institute to End Mass Incarceration at Harvard Law School. She was previously a public defender and Director of Litigation for the Civil Rights Corps. She has been a frequent contributor to major publications such as The Washington Post, Slate, and CNN, on issues of criminal justice and racial disparities in the criminal justice system.  Premal joined Justin and Geonard to discuss the recently published volume, "Dismantling Mass Incarceration: A Handbook for Change," of which she is a co-editor, along with James Forman Jr., the J. Skelly Wright Professor of Law at Yale Law School, and Maria Hawilo, distinguished professor in residence at Loyola University Chicago School of Law.

Send us a Text Message.Brian McEvoy, a former federal prosecutor and current white collar criminal defense lawyer with BakerHostetler, joins Nina Marino (KaplanMarino) and Joe Whitley (Womble Bond Dickinson) to discuss the Tenth Annual Southeastern White Collar Crime Institute (September 4-6, in Braselton, GA) and how it came to be. They also discuss why it is worth attending this conference, how it is different from other programs nationwide, memorable moments from past years, social networking opportunities, and details of this year's upcoming conference.

Send us a Text Message.In 1997, Peter Heyberger was convicted of residential burglary and attempted residential burglary. It was his third conviction, and so, under California's “Three Strikes” law, Mr. Heyberger's minimum sentence was 25 years to life in prison. He was sentenced to 65-years to life.  In 2019, California passed HB 2942—a Prosecutor-Initiated Resentencing bill that gave California prosecutors the discretion to reevaluate past cases and recommend lower sentences.  And so it was, in 2020, that Santa Clara County District Attorney Jeff Rosen reviewed Mr. Heyberger's file and made a recommendation that, after serving twenty-three years of his sentence, led to Mr. Heyberger's release.  Hillary Blout is the former California Prosecutor who helped draft and pass the California legislation that paved the way for Mr. Heyberger's release.  While working as a prosecutor, Hillary came to believe that court sentences were longer than necessary to achieve the goal of rehabilitation.  She left her job as a prosecutor and began working on sentencing reform.  In 2019, she founded “For the People”—an organization dedicated to passing and implementing Prosecutor-Initiated Resentencing laws across the country. She has written for The Washington Post, Newsweek, USA Today, Bloomberg, and the American Bar Association Journal.  At this point she has secured the passage of Prosecutor-Initiated Resentencing laws in several states, and her work has led to the resentencing of close to 1,000 people.  Justin Danilewitz and Geonard Butler spoke with Hillary Blout about her own experience, and the future of Prosecutor-Initiated Resentencing.

Send us a Text Message.The right to counsel in criminal cases is, by now well established in a series of United States Supreme Court precedents. And yet, local jurisdictions have for too long found themselves under-resourced, and out-gunned in their quest to provide not just constitutionally sufficient and competent representation, but excellent representation-free of charge to indigent criminal defendants. Pennsylvania, until recently in December 2023, was one of only two states in the nation, the other being South Dakota,  that provided no state support for local public defenders offices. Through the passage of Act 34 last year this is not changed. Act 34 in addition to providing state funding for local public defenders offices, also established the Indigent Defense Advisory Committee. We are joined today by the Chair of that committee, Sara Jacobson, who is also the Executive Director of the Public Defenders Association of Pennsylvania, as well as by a member of the committee and the president of the Public Defenders Association of Pennsylvania, Julia Burke. 

Send us a Text Message.Confessions by criminal defendants are regarded as the most powerful evidence of guilt. So why would an innocent person confess to a crime they did not commit? That question and the troubling issue of false confessions is at the heart of the research of Professor Saul Kassin, the author of Duped: Why Innocent People Confess – and Why We Believe Their Confessions. Professor Kassin is the distinguished Professor of Psychology at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice and Professor Emeritus at Williams College. He is regarded as the foremost expert on false confessions. He has served as an expert consultant in many high-profile cases and as a TV analyst. His work has been widely cited including by the United States Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court of Canada. We are also joined by Professor Jules Epstein from Temple University Beasley School of Law in Philadelphia. Professor Epstein is a practicing criminal defense lawyer, and also an expert on scientific evidence. He is the co-author of Scientific Evidence Review: Admissibility and the Use of Expert Evidence in the Courtroom, Monograph No. 9 

Send us a Text Message.The prospect of long-term solitary confinement, being housed alone in custody for months and sometimes even years, is daunting for criminal defendants and their counsel. In May 2023, two public interest organizations, The Italian Association Antigone and the Israeli organization, Physicians for Human Rights Israel, proposed the International Guiding Statement on Alternatives to Solitary Confinement. We are pleased to have with us two guests: Professor Keramet Reiter & Oneg Ben Dror. Professor Reiter is a member of the Department of Criminology, Law and Society at the University of California Irvine Law School. Professor Reiter is the author of 23/7: Pelican Bay Prison and the Rise of Long-Term Solitary Confinement, published by Yale University Press. Ms. Ben Dror is a project coordinator for the Physicians for Human Rights Israel, and was involved in the drafting of the International Guiding Statement on Alternatives to Solitary Confinement. Our guests are the co-authors, along with Dana Moss, of a recent article: Overview of the International Guiding Statement on Alternatives to Solitary Confinement in the Criminal Justice Magazine. 

On September 26, 2020, then-President Donald Trump nominated Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the United States Supreme Court. Upon confirmation, Justice Barrett took the seat of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who had passed away one week before Justice Barrett's nomination. Writing in the Fall 2023 issue of the Criminal Justice Magazine, Daniel Kaplan observes that Justice Barrett's voting pattern in the court's criminal cases has been notably Scalia-esque. That's perhaps not surprising, given that Justice Barrett was a law clerk for Justice Scalia after her graduation from Notre Dame Law School. She remains the only former Scalia clerk among the 9 justices currently on the court. Daniel Kaplan is an Assistant Federal Public Defender in Phoenix, Arizona. His article is "Amy Coney Barrett: A Mellower Scalia". You can read his article here

Our guest is Professor Lucian Dervan, the founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute and a Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies at Belmont University College of Law in Nashville, TN.  Professor Dervan is co-chair of the ABA's Criminal Justice Section Plea Bargaining Taskforce and co-author of the forthcoming book, "The Cost of Bargains: Reflections and Recommendations" from the Section's Plea Bargaining Task Force.Read the Fourteen Principles and a Path Forward for Plea Bargaining Reform, by Lucian E. Dervan hereRead the ABA CJS Plea Bargaining Task Force Report here

Larry Krasner is a former criminal defense and civil rights lawyer who has become one of the most high profile inner city District Attorneys to lead the city prosecutor's office of any major city. He has made waves for his controversial—and some would say progressive—policy positions on hot button issues like mass incarceration, decriminalization of minor drug possession, police misconduct, and wrongful convictions. He was first elected as District Attorney for Philadelphia in 2017 and re-elected in 2021, after running his own criminal defense firm, where he brought over 75 civil suits against law enforcement for misconduct. Even earlier in his career he worked as a public defender.

It takes about 3 hours to drive from Greenwich, Connecticut to the Federal Correctional Institution,  Allenwood Low in Pennsylvania. Jeffery D. Grant knows this because he took that drive on an Easter Sunday in 2006. A lawyer whose life has taken a wrong turn on  the road to addiction, Jeff Grant left the upscale life he had cultivated in Connecticut to enter what would be his new home for the duration of his 18-month Federal criminal sentence. The story of his rise, fall, and redemption is recounted in an article by Evan Osnos in The New Yorker. Jeff Grant has also been featured in Forbes, The Philadelphia Inquirer, Greenwich Magazine, and Business Insider. Jeff was released from custody in 2007 and was able to recover from addiction, obtain a divinity degree, start a law firm, and start a number of non-profit support groups focused on reentry to society in support of defendants and their families. Read The New Yorker article hereRead Jeff's CJS Magazine article, "A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats: Progressive Diversion and Reentry, 'Problem-to-Pardon' Case Management" here

Our guests have spent their careers advocating for some of the most vulnerable citizens in our country's legal system-our nation's children. Kristin Henning is the Blume Professor of Law and Director of the Juvenile Justice Clinic Initiative at Georgetown Law School and the author of "The Rage of Innocence: How America Criminalizes Black Youth". Marsha Levick is the co-founder and Chief Legal Officer of the Juvenile Law Center, which has been advocating for young people's rights for nearly 50 years. 

In this episode, Joe Whitley and Lynsey Barron discuss corporate monitorships with Ling-Ling Nie,  who is the Deputy General Counsel, Chief Compliance & ESG Officer, Head of Government Affairs at Aura and Scott Marrah, Partner at White Collar Criminal Defense & Internal Investigations  at Kilpatrick Townsend. 

Gurbir Grewal has been the Director of the Enforcement Division at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission since 2001.  Prior to that, he had the distinction of being the first Sikh American to be Attorney General in any of the fifty states, and only the second South Asian to hold such an office after the former Attorney General of California, Kamala Harris.  Gurbir was the Chief Prosecutor of Bergen County in New Jersey, and before that the Head of the Economic Crimes Unit in the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey.  Justin and Gurbir sat down for a “fireside chat” at the annual White Collar Conference of the Pennsylvania Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (PACDL).  The episode was recorded in front of a live audience, with PACDL's permission.

T. Markus Funk, a Partner at Perkins Coie in Denver, Colorado, was a Section Chief with the U.S. State Department in the Balkans, following the war in Kosovo, where he represented the United States in diplomatic negotiations and participated in the restructuring of Kosovo's post-war justice system.  Markus graduated from Northwestern School of Law, and later received a doctorate in law from the University of Oxford, where he taught as a law professor.  Markus was also a federal prosecutor in Chicago, where he prosecuted members of the Chicago mafia, most notably in a case called Operation Family Secrets, the subject of our discussion today. 

Representing criminal defendants with mental disabilities comes with a range of challenges that make these representations different from the usual criminal representation in important ways.  Elizabeth Kelley is an expert in the field, and the Editor of Representing People with Dementia:  A Practical Guide for Criminal Defense Lawyers, recently published by the American Bar Association.  The book is a collection of 16 essays by lawyers, psychiatrists, and psychologists. You can purchase the book here.  

Our guest is Richard Saenz, who is a senior attorney in the criminal justice and police misconduct strategist at Lambda Legal. He focuses his work on the criminal legal system, coordinating litigation and policy work on behalf of incarcerated people and against the criminalization of LGBTQ+ people. Richard has been featured in the Washington Post, NBC News, USA Today, Newsweek, and The Advocate. 

The Atlantic Center for Capital Representation was founded in 2010, in Philadelphia.  The Center provides advice and counsel in death penalty cases around the country, as well as in federal death cases, and represents the Government of Mexico in death penalty cases involving Mexican nationals here in the United States. Justin and Geonard interviewed the Center's co-founder and Executive Director, Marc Bookman, and the President of its Board of Directors, Patrick Egan. Marc and Pat are long-time members of the Philadelphia criminal defense bar, and have, themselves, litigated numerous death penalty cases.  Marc is also the author of the recently published book by The New Press, called a Descending Spiral: Exposing the Death Penalty in 12 Essays.  Marc has also published in The Atlantic, and Slate, among other publications.  

For three decades, since its founding in 1992 at Yeshiva University's Cardozo School of Law, the Innocence Project has led a national effort to exonerate wrongly convicted defendants through scientific advances in DNA technology. That work has led to the exoneration of hundreds of wrongly convicted defendants, some of them on death row. Justin and Geonard interviewed the founders of the Innocence Project, Barry Scheck and Peter Neufeld. 

On this episode, Nina and Joe have a discussion with Jim Felman on the United States' sentencing guidelines. 

White Collar Talks makes its return! In this episode, Nina and Joe engage in a compelling discussion with Scott Schools, the Chief Compliance and Ethics Officer at Uber. Scott takes us through a typical day at Uber, where he navigates the intricacies of his role, and mentions the challenges he encounters as the Chief Compliance Officer of a corporation of Uber's magnitude. 

 Featuring: Bill Shepherd is an experienced trial lawyer and partner at Holland & Knight's West Palm Beach and Washington, D.C., offices. As previous Chair of the Criminal Justice Section, Bill discusses his early career and how he became involved in the Criminal Justice Section as a law student, eventually creating the London White Collar Crime Institute.  Bill joins Nina and Joe to discuss the London White Collar Crime Institute and how it came to be. They also discuss why it is worth attending this conference, how it's different from others, memorable moments, social networking, virtual programming, and details of this year's upcoming conference.  Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Lucian Dervan is a Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies at Belmont University College of Law. Lucian joins Nina and Joe to discuss international internal investigations, international white collar crime, and international criminal justice issues. As former Chair of the ABA's Criminal Justice Section, Lucian led the Section into the international space of criminal justice. Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring:  Ray Banoun, one of the founders of the National White Collar Crime Institute.  Maggie O'Donnell, trial attorney focused on white collar criminal defense and civil matters.  Hosts:Nina Marino, founder of the Criminal Defense Law Section of the Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles (WLALA) and the Los Angeles chapter of the Women's White Collar Defense Association (WWCDA). Nina regularly negotiates with and litigates against the U.S. Department of Justice, local district attorneys, and other government agencies in her defense of people investigated or charged with matters involving healthcare fraud, international extradition, cybercrime, money laundering, customs violations, tax crimes, Ponzi schemes, public corruption, and regulatory issues involving cryptocurrency. Joe Whitley, represents clients nationally and internationally in white collar criminal matters and regulatory enforcement, corporate internal investigations, Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) and U.S. export controls and compliance.  Join Nina, Joe, Maggie, and Ray to learn more about the National White Collar Institute.  This is the first episode of the new series, "White Collar Talks with Nina and Joe"!

Featuring: Faraz Mohammadi, Assistant United States Attorney, Orange County, CALinda Britton ABA CJS Standards DirectorKyo Suh ABA CJS Technology and Publications ManagerEmily Johnson Senior Public Relations SpecialistJoin us to learn more about how you can take part in the many opportunities available to members of the Section, from publishing, to creating policy, fellowships, media opportunities and more.Also, this will be our last episode before a hiatus. The JustPod will return at a later date.

Featuring: Kristin Henning is the Blume Professor of Law and Director of the Juvenile Justice Clinic and Initiative at Georgetown Law Kristin joins us to discuss her recently published book “The Rage of Innocence: How America Criminalizes Black Youth.” Kristin shares some highlights with our listeners as well as sharing her method for gathering the perspectives and conclusions put forward in this work. Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Melba Pearson, Policy Director for the Center for the Administration of Justice with the Florida International University.Is that assault? Melba joins us to answer one of the questions that filled Twitter following the Oscars. Yes, we are talking about "the slap"  but as one of many examples as we try to discern the obligations of law enforcement and prosecutors when a victim decides not to press charges.Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Wayne McKenzie, General Counsel at NYC Department of ProbationChair of the ABA Criminal Justice Section.Wayne joins us to give an update on what the Section has been up to and what plans they have for the coming months. We discuss in-person events like the recent National White Collar Crime Institute and our upcoming CJS Spring Meeting in Savannah. We also discuss the other work of the Section in awards and competitions.Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Prof. David M. Crane, Distinguished Scholar in Residence Syracuse University College of Law; Founding Chief Prosecutor UN Special Court for Sierra Leone; Founder, Global Accountability Network; Board of Advisors for the International Criminal Court Project (ABA's Criminal Justice Section & Center for Human Rights) David joins us to highlight the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Russian during its current invasion of Ukraine. Learn more about the actors, the means and the current state of prosecuting Vladimir Putin and Russian Commanders for these atrocities. Also, please note what needs to happen to move the prosecution forward.International Criminal Court Project (ABA's Criminal Justice Section & Center for Human Rights) Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now 

Featuring: Michael J. Leotta Partner Wilmer Hale, Co-Chair of the ABA CJS White Collar Crime CommitteeMichael joins us on the podcast because President Biden signed an executive order on government oversight of cryptocurrency. Michael will help walk us through this order on a high level to discuss what the order includes, what the potential impact is and what practitioners need to know now.Want to join a CJS committee?Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now 

Featuring:Honorable Ernestine Gray, recently retired Judge of the Orleans Parish Juvenile Court, Co-Chair of the ABACJS Juvenile Justice Committee and member of the Juvenile Justice Standards Task Force and Chair-Elect of the Judicial Division.Honorable Denise Langford Morris, Oakland County Circuit Court Judge, Secretary of the National State Trial Judges Conference of the Judicial Division, CJS Council Member, CJS Women's Task Force Member and Co-Executive Director of the ABACJS Equal Justice Division. Judge Gray and Langford Morris are joining us today to discuss the historic appointment of Ketanji Brown Jackson's nomination to the Supreme Court, the first Black woman to be appointed to the Supreme Court. Want to join a CJS committee?Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now 

Featuring: Stephen Saltzburg, Wallace and Beverley Woodbury University Professor of Law. Co-director of the Litigation and Dispute Resolution Program at George Washington University School of Law. Former CJS Chair.The ABA policymaking body convened virtually Feb. 14 as part of the 2022 Midyear Meeting to debate and vote on a wide range of policy issues. CJS Delegate, Steve Saltzburg joins us to talk about the CJS resolutions that were cosponsored by CJS. Join us as we discuss new ABA policy around youth representation at court, youth homelessness, election law and more.Here is the previous lactation room policy mentioned in this episode:RESOLVED, That the American Bar Association encourages federal, state, and territorial legislatures and court systems, in conjunction with state and local bar associations, to support and assist with the establishment and maintenance of a lactation area in every appropriate courthouse, provided a lactation area is defined to mean a room in a courthouse for members of the public, including lawyers, jurors, litigants, witnesses, and observers, to express breast milk that:Is shielded from view and free from intrusion from the public;Has a door that can be locked;Includes a place to sit, a table or other flat surface, and an electrical outlet; Is readily accessible to and usable by individuals with disabilities; andIs not located in a restroom.  Want to join a CJS committee?Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now 

Featuring: Dr. Jonathan Wender Co-Founder, President and CEO of POLIS SolutionsJonathan joins us to examine rising crime and a potential relationship to recent police reforms. We discuss the need to focus on replicating successful practices and not just removal of police practices. We discuss the impact of recent reforms that were adopted in jurisdictions across the U.S.POLIS SolutionsLegal Education Police Practices ConsortiumWant to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Cynthia Nakao Professional Responsibility Advisor Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office.Ghislaine Maxwell was recently convicted of sex trafficking a minor, but her attorneys have formally requested a retrial stating that a juror did not disclose that they are a sexual abuse survivor. Cynthia highlights the applicable standards and potential problems that can arise in jury trials that can lead to a mistrial or retrial. Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Mark Beardsworth partner in Cadwalader's White Collar Defense and Investigations Group, resident in the London office.Saverio Lembo heads Bär & Karrer's White Collar Crime practice group. Frances McLeod is a founding partner of FRA and head of its US offices.Mark, Saverio and Frances are editors and contributors to the new CJS book, “An International Guide to Corporate Internal Investigations”. They join us to provide us with an introduction and sampling of the valuable best practice tips and guidance readers can expect to find in this book.You can purchase the book here: https://www.americanbar.org/products/inv/book/416759862/.Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Wayne McKenzie, General Counsel at NYC Department of Probation Chair of the ABA Criminal Justice Section.Wayne joins us to give an update on what the Section has been up to and what plans they have for the coming months. We discuss in-person events like the recent white collar crime institutes and our upcoming CJS Fall Institute. We also discuss the other work of the Section in policy, new books, new reports and more. With the CJS Fall Institute next week and Thanksgiving the week after that, we will sign off for Season 3. We will take a break for the months of December and January and return again in February.Want to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now

Featuring: Raul Ayala, Deputy Federal Public Defender at Office of the Federal Public Defender in the Central District of California and the collaborative court supervising attorney.Ellen Yaroshefsky, The Howard Lichtenstein Distinguished Professor in Legal Ethics and Professor of Law.Raul and Ellen join us to share what a day in the life is like for them as a public defender and an academic, respectively. Each shares their daily activities in addition to reflections on pivotal career moments that got them to where they are. Finally, they reflect on what they wish they would have known before working in their respective roles.Enroll in a CJS CommitteeWant to get involved with the Criminal Justice Section? Join us! https://www.americanbar.org/membership/join-now