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Get Ad-Free Episodes on Patreon: Want exclusive, ad-free episodes? Visit us on Patreon, link at rainydayrabbitholes.com.This Week's Episode: Shea & Jody welcome the hilarious Kevin Ryan of Tyrant In Training, a podcast where guests live out their inner tyrannical fantasies. Jody dives into the rise and fall of Mark Driscoll and the Mars Hill Church. From salacious sermons to cult-like scandals, we're breaking it all down with laughter and a bit of shock.Follow Kevin: Check out Kevin's podcast at tyrantintraining.io and follow him for more hilarity!Umbrella Podcast Collective: Kevin is part of the Umbrella Podcast Collective—a little cult of podcasters with big ideas. Learn more at rainydayrabbitholes.com/umbrella.Tags: #MarsHillChurch, #MarkDriscoll, #TyrantInTraining, #UmbrellaPodcastCollective, #FunnyPodcast, #CultPodcast, #ScandalousSermons, #ReligionDebate, #HistoryOfReligion, #PodcastCollab, #TyrannyUnleashed, #PodcastCommunity, #RainyDayRabbitHoles, #PacificNorthwest, #JodyAndShea, #FYP, #ViralPodcastSources: Edinburg Scotland Sex, a Study of the Good Bits from Song of SolomonArchive of Driscoll Sermons at Mars Hill ChurchGrace and Lies - The Mars Hill Storyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-SI2OgePrkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_DriscollRise and fall of Mars Hill ChurchDriscoll's current sermon vile websiteBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/pacific-northwest-history-humor-rainy-day-rabbit-holes--6271663/support.
On today's program, author and teacher Dr Michael Brown of the radio program Line of Fire has agreed to a third-party investigation after being accused of sexual impropriety. We'll have details. And, we remember two anniversaries this week—the release of a GRACE investigation into Bob Jones University and their handling of sexual abuse cases, and the fall of Mars Hill Church. We take time to reflect on both—lessons learned and where things stand now. Plus, overall membership in the Presbyterian Church USA continues to fall—except among people who identify as genderqueer. We'll take a look. But first, after a year-long battle, an Ohio church is NOT being allowed to shelter the homeless this winter. The producer for today's program is Jeff McIntosh. We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today's program include Kim Roberts, Jessica Eturralde, Marci Seither, Bob Smietana, David Fairchild, Jeffrey Walton, Brittany Smith, and Christina Darnell. A special thanks to Juicy Ecumenism for contributing material for this week's podcast. Until next time, may God bless you. MANUSCRIPT: FIRST SEGMENT Warren: Hello everybody. I'm Warren Smith, coming to you from Charlotte, North Carolina. Natasha: And I'm Natasha Cowden, coming to you from Denver, Colorado. And we'd like to welcome you to the MinistryWatch podcast. Warren: On today's program, author and teacher Dr Michael Brown of the radio program Line of Fire has agreed to a third-party investigation after being accused of sexual impropriety. We'll have details. And, we remember two anniversaries this week—the release of a GRACE investigation into Bob Jones University and their handling of sexual abuse cases, and the fall of Mars Hill Church. We take time to reflect on both—lessons learned and where things stand now. Plus, overall membership in the Presbyterian Church USA continues to fall—except among people who identify as genderqueer. We'll take a look. Natasha: But first, after a year-long battle, an Ohio church is NOT being allowed to shelter the homeless this winter. Warren: An Ohio judge has issued a preliminary injunction against Dad's Place and its pastor Chris Avell, preventing the church from using its first floor to shelter homeless people, even as temperatures are expected to plummet later this week. Dad's Place and Avell have been involved in a dispute with Bryan, Ohio, since last year over whether it can open the first floor of the church in a business district to allow homeless persons to escape the cold. In January, a federal district court issued an order “forbidding [the city] from enforcing any alleged violations of the City's zoning or fire codes without the court's approval or the church's agreement.” Natasha: What happened? Warren: The City of Bryan and the church, through its counsel at First Liberty Institute, tried to resolve their differences, but negotiations broke down in April. In July 2024, the federal court denied Dad's Place request for a preliminary injunction to prevent the city from enforcing its fire regulations against the church. Then in September a three-judge panel of the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals denied the church's appeal of the district court's decision. Now, Ohio Judge J.T. Stelzer has issued an injunction preventing the church from offering its building for use by homeless persons in the city. Natasha: What happens next? Warren: Dad's Place remains in violation of several fire safety code regulations, including failure to install a sprinkler system, said Stelzer. The decision also pointed to two other shelters near Dad's Place that utilize their second floors as temporary residences to shelter the city's needy and homeless residents while in “full compliance with the city's fire code and zoning ordinances.”
The Deep End with Dan Sweetman explores the complex tension between faith, doubt and what a deep life truly looks like today. In this edition of The Deep End, Dan speaks to Adam Ramsey, leader of Liberti Church and Asia Pacific Regional Director of Acts 29. Adam shares some of his experience at Mars Hill Church in Seattle and how we can navigate doubt when church leaders fail. The Deep End is a production of 96five Brisbane and Lifepoint Church Rothwell. Find more 96five podcasts here!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This week on The Bulletin, hosts Russell Moore and Mike Cosper talk with Tom Nichols of The Atlantic about theatrics on the world stage -- Donald Trump's promise to pardon rioters from the January 6 attacks on the Capitol and Vladimir Putin's response to the recent terrorist attack in Moscow. With his characteristic wit, Nichols helps listeners navigate the confusing messages politicians send and, with the hosts, clarifies the call of Christian witness. Producer Clarissa Moll talks to Mike and Russell about the bridge collapse in Baltimore and how Christians can resist indifference to the news. Finally, Mike and Russell remember the 10th anniversary of Mars Hill Church's closure and reflect on the dangers of nostalgia. This week's guests: Tom Nichols is a staff writer at The Atlantic and an author of the Atlantic Daily newsletter. He is a professor emeritus of national-security affairs at the U.S. Naval War College, where he taught for 25 years, and an instructor at the Harvard Extension School. He has served as a legislative aide in the Massachusetts House and the U.S. Senate. He writes about international security, nuclear weapons, Russia, and the challenges to democracy in the United States and around the world—along with occasional contrarian views on popular culture. His books include The Death of Expertise and Our Own Worst Enemy: The Assault From Within on Modern Democracy. He is also a five-time undefeated Jeopardy champion. “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Producer: Clarissa Moll and Matt Stevens Associate Producer: McKenzie Hill and Raed Gilliam Editing and Mix: TJ Hester Music: Dan Phelps Show Design: Bryan Todd Graphic Design: Amy Jones Social Media: Kate Lucky Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Today, we share an excellent episode that Melanie recorded with Steven Murphy of The Nook Podcast, all about her faith journey, her time leading worship at Mars Hill Church, Coaching with her husband, and so much more. LINKS: https://anatomyofus.com/ https://www.patreon.com/m/anatomyofus High-Performance Coaching: https://anatomyofus.com/coaching Power Couple Planner: https://anatomyofus.com/power-couple-planner Back to Basics Bootcamp Course: https://anatomyofus.com/backtobasics Subscribe to Our Channel: https://www.youtube.com/thestudleys Join Seth's Badass Husband Mastermind: badasshusband.com Download the Clearing Structure in the Resources section at https://www.anatomyofus.com/ We are sponsored by BetterHelp. To find a virtual counselor visit http://betterhelp.com/us We are sponsored by Factor. For 50% off visit factormeals.com/aou50 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Joining me for this final episode of the Renew Your Mind series is my good friend, Melanie Studley. She and her husband, Seth, run Anatomy of Us, with a focus on helping couples work through marital challenges and create a thriving relationship. They offer personal and couples coaching, and publish great resources and a long-running podcast that can help anyone who chooses to have a growth mindset in their relationships.Click HERE to get the Prayer Planner & Journal that we talked about.She and I talk about quite an interesting story arc that includes:Her salvation at 19Marrying Seth, having kids, and narrowly escaping an ugly divorce.(For more on that, check out "Black-eyed Marriage", Seth & Melanie's first apprearance on The Nook Podcast)10 years of involvement at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, that came to a halt when the church closed down.A crisis of faith that lasted many years before she and Seth rededicated their lives to Christ in late 2022.The Studley's on-going worth with married couples who are looking for a more unified life together.If you enjoyed this conversation with Melanie, please subscribe, rate, and review this podcast. Don't forget to share this episode with friends and fellow worshippers. Stay connected for more engaging discussions and stories as we continue in this walk of real faith in real time.Please consider a safe and simple financial donation via the following link:Support the showQuestions or comments can be sent to steven@nookpodcast.comJoin The Nook Facebook page!Steven's Social Media:Instagram and TwitterCheck out some great Christian apparel: Pace Christian ClothingUse the promo code "STEVEM15" and save 15% on your order!
Podcast performer and producer Virginia Spotts (The Sheridan Tapes) stops by the VCW hall to talk about her Evangelical story, including her time at Mark Driscoll's Mars Hill Church, and Acts 29 church after that. She talks about realizing she was suffering from religious trauma as well as deep grief and loss (due to extremely painful life experiences) and how she navigated a path forward. Listen to The Sheridan Tapes podcast right here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sheridan-tapes/id1508614133 Support the show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/vcwpod Dave's second podcast- "Does the Bible Say THAT?": https://open.spotify.com/episode/0a8CCeIvjiFn1lKwKmxNt6?si=H1UswE0VT3m2tmZNFuSC4Q Twitter: Twitter: @vcwpod Zach- @muzach Dave- @Davejlester Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com Podcast music by Zach Malm Logo by Zach Malm
Join Greg and Jill in this enlightening episode of Building Bridges with Greg and Jill as they sit down with Dr. Kyle Beshears, Campus Pastor of Mars Hill Church in Mobile, Alabama, teacher and author, and Dr. Stephan Taeger, professor of Ancient Scripture at BYU specializing in Homiletics and an author. As both religious scholars and personal friends, they discuss their experiences and the ongoing effort to build bridges and seek truth between their faith communities. Discover their passion for involving more students in faith discussions, and explore their hopes for greater understanding and truth-seeking in the future.
On today's program, we take a look at the 50 largest evangelism and discipleship organizations in the nation. We also have details regarding the suspension of celebrity pastor Albert Tate. And the state of California has sued pregnancy care centers in the state. The lawsuit could have chilling effect on pregnancy resource centers around the country. And do you remember Mark Driscoll, the disgraced former pastor of Seattle's Mars Hill Church? Well, he's back, and we'll fill you in what he's been up to. We begin today with Andy Stanley's controversial conference Unconditional Love, which took place at Stanley's North Point Church near Atlanta last weekend. FINAL THOUGHTS: It's a new month, and we have a new gift for our donors. MinistryWatch has published a booklet called “75 Red Flags To Consider Before Donating To A Christian Ministry.” We'll send you that booklet as our thank you for any gift to MinistryWatch during the month of October. This is a great tool for Christian donors. We use the questions in this booklet every day here at MinistryWatch to help us evaluate ministries. To get your copy, just go to the MinistryWatch website and hit the donate button at the top of the page. The producers for today's program are Rich Roszel and Jeff McIntosh. We get database and other technical support from Stephen DuBarry, Rod Pitzer, and Casey Sudduth. Writers who contributed to today's program include Liz Lykins, Chris Moody, John Stonestreet, Timothy Padgett, Kim Roberts, Kathryn Post, Steve Rabey, Christina Darnell, and Rod Pitzer. A special thanks to Religion UnPlugged and Breakpoint with the Colson Center for Christian Worldview for contributing material for this week's podcast. Until next time, may God bless you.
When we examine the far-reaching impact of spiritual abuse, it becomes evident that it transcends isolated incidents, permeating a broader culture, system, and ideology that inflict harm. In this week's episode, Rachael engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Joel Kiekintveld, a pastor and Adjunct Professor at The Seattle School, shedding light on the intricate dynamics of systems and cultures that foster spiritually abusive environments. Joel recently hosted Season 4 of Transforming Engagement, the Podcast, called "Church After Mars Hill," in response to the widely popular podcast, “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill.” Through their series of conversations, Joel and his guests not only examine Mars Hill Church as a case study to identify the systems, cultures, and leadership structures that contributed to its downfall, but they also create a space for introspection and imagination for what can be done with these lessons learned. In the aftermath of the destruction wrought by spiritually abusive church cultures, their dialogues explore the delicate tension between deconstruction and rebuilding. We hope you enjoy this conversation and also check out “Church After Mars Hill,” the full season of Transforming Engagement, the Podcast, at transformingengagement.org/podcast
As we continue to examine the case study that is Mars Hill Church, we're asking a couple of questions in this conversation: First, how do we create faith communities that know what abuses of power look like and call those behaviors out? And second, how do we build environments that seek to be psychologically healthy for everyone? Our guest this week is Doug Shirley, EdD, core faculty with The Seattle School of Theology & Psychology with expertise in counseling, Divinity, and pastoral community counseling. Doug's passion lies in understanding and improving the emotional, relational, and spiritual lives of individuals in helping and healing professions. The sheer number of individuals seeking help for mental health issues following the Mars Hill debacle underscores the unhealthy nature of the church environment. Our conversation explores strategies for creating psychologically healthy spaces within faith communities, emphasizing the importance of two-way dialogue, accountability, openness, and honesty. Listener resources: This conversation references: Finite and Infinite Games by James Carse; The Priest in Community by Urban T. Holmes, III; The Emotionally Healthy Leader by Peter Scazzero; Life Together by Dietrich Bonhoeffer; Trauma and Recovery and Truth and Repair by Judith Herman, MD; the words and thoughts of Dr. Steve Call from The Reconnect Institute, Nadia Bolz-Weber, Resmaa Menakem, Brian McLaren, Dr. Tali Hariston, and Parker Palmer. If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, click here.
Mars Hill Church pastor Mark Driscoll was known to portray Jesus as a warrior or an “ultimate fighter” in his teachings. He wasn't the only one. In the Western church, our society's obsession with violence and militarism has found its way into our theology in subtle - and not so subtle - ways. But is this an accurate portrayal of Christ, the Prince of Peace? This week, host Joel Kiekintveld is joined by Dr. Joel Aguilar to talk about how we can construct our churches in a non-violent way by looking at scripture through the lens of the forgiving victim. Supporting resources: Read the transcript from today's episode at transformingengagement.org/podcast Dr. Aguilar presents the theories of mimetic desire and rivalry from René Girard in this conversation. You can read more about Girard's life and work here. Other resources cited for further exploration: read the works of James Alison, Catholic theologian, priest, and author, and check out A Church Called Tov by Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer. If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, click here.
Professor of Sociology Jennifer McKinney talks to us about her research into Mars Hill Church and what scandals in the Church might teach us. She shares what it was like to work on a college campus so close to Mars Hill and the effect the church's theology had on students, how her research into Mars Hill's theology affected her own faith, why we should expect the Church to be imperfect, and the importance of identifying patterns of abuse in order to create healthier churches (plus, why this might be harder for us protestants). You can find Dr. McKinney's recent book "Making Christianity Manly Again: Mark Driscoll, Mars Hill Church, and American Evangelicalism" here >>> Learn more about our work in the Whitworth Office of Church Engagement here >>>
We continue our conversation about Church After Mars Hill with Dr. Rose Madrid Swetman, the Northwest Regional Leader of the Vineyard USA denomination and Associate Director at the Center for Transforming Engagement. Dr. Swetman was previously interviewed for Christianity Today's podcast "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" in Episode 5, titled "The Things We Do to Women." The discussion revolves around the exposed vision of Mark Driscoll, former pastor of Mars Hill, which revealed a patriarchal and toxic theology concerning the roles of men and women. Dr. Swetman shares her experience in providing pastoral care for individuals who had left Mars Hill and discusses the importance of building faith communities that promote mutuality. Tune in as we explore ways to create faith communities that are inclusive and promote mutual respect among all members. This season of the Transforming Engagement Podcast is a response to Christianity Today Media's wildly popular podcast, The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. Hosted by contributor and pastor Joel Kiekintveld, we're seeking to learn what we can from the case study that is Mars Hill Church in an effort to uncover what the church looks like after Mars Hill. After the destruction left by the collapse of that Seattle-based mega-church, the conversations in this podcast season are our offerings towards a rebuilding. Listener resources: Read the transcript from today's episode at transformingengagement.org/podcast Check out some of the books that Dr. Rose Madrid Swetman references in this episode: The Apostle Paul and Women in the Church by Don Williams, The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr, Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez, and Paul and Gender by Cynthia Long Westfall. You also may want to check out women's advocacy organizations, CBE International and The Junia Project. Click here to read Dr. Rose Madrid-Swetman's interview with Andrea Sielaff, Program Evaluation Manager at Center for Transforming Engagement, after Rose's appearance on The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast. You can listen to Rose's contributions to The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill in episodes "The Things We Do To Women" and "The Bobby Knight Problem." If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, click here.
Mars Hill was a Seattle-based church led by Mark Driscoll- a beloved, endearing, powerful presence in the evangelical Christian community. He built Mars Hill into one of the fastest-growing churches in the nation, with close to 15,000 attendees and an additional 260,000 viewers tuning in online every week. But behind the perfect persona, was a twisted reality waiting to be uncovered. What was revealed in its final days was a trail of abuse, fraud, intimidation, sexism, and a fall from grace that would make it one of the most spectacular collapses in Christianity today. Listen to Episode 57 of The Great Fail to hear the full story. Special thanks to Adweek and Acast and Professor Jeremy Cohen for contributing to this episode. Mars Hill Sources 'The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill': The abuses of a superstar pastor and megachurch ruins left behind Lawsuit: Controversial Pastor Ran Mars Hill Megachurch Like a Crime Syndicate WHO KILLED MARS HILL CHURCH? THERE'S ONE SUSPECT EVANGELICALS SIMPLY AREN'T PREPARED TO INTERROGATE How a Megachurch Melts Down Wikipedia: Mars Hill Church Megachurch pastor Mark Driscoll was an evangelical rock star. Here's how he fell from grace. Wikipedia: Mark Driscoll Special Guest: Jeremy Cohen, Assistant Professor, Department of Religious Studies, McMaster University Jeremy Cohen is an anthropologist of religion and an Assistant Professor at McMaster University in the Department of Religious Studies, where he teaches courses on topics ranging from cults and conspiracy theories to death and dying, and the occult. His research examines new religious movements seeking radical longevity and immortality, and the intersections of science, technology, and religion. Jeremy has written for the Globe and Mail, The Conversation, and the Hamilton Spectator, and has been featured in the NY Post, Coast to Coast AM Radio, and Inverse Magazine. He is also the co-founder and co-editor of the death and dying resource, TalkDeath.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The term "deconstruction" is widely used in the Evangelical and post-Evangelical community, but what does it actually mean and what purpose does it serve? How does it relate to addressing the pain, anger, and disillusionment experienced in the wake of the fall of trusted leaders and churches like Mars Hill? Furthermore, how does it influence our relationship with institutions, communities, and our own spirituality? In the first episode of this season, host Joel Kiekintveld engages in a conversation with Dr. J. Derek McNeil, President of The Seattle School for Theology and Psychology and co-founder of the Center for Transforming Engagement. With his unique perspective as a leader of a faith-centered institution in Seattle, Derek sheds light on the cyclic process of deconstruction and rebuilding at the institutional level, within our communities, and in our own faith journeys. This season of the Transforming Engagement Podcast is a response to Christianity Today Media's wildly popular podcast, The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. As listeners of The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast, we could take two approaches: one as a mere observation of a captivating soap opera, providing voyeuristic pleasure through the shocking and scandalous true story of Mars Hill and Mark Driscoll. The other option is to utilize it as an opportunity for introspection, allowing us to examine our own involvement in personality-driven spirituality and dysfunctional church systems, seeking lessons from Mars Hill's downfall to shape our future. Hosted by contributor and pastor Joel Kiekintveld, we're seeking to learn what we can from the case study that is Mars Hill Church in an effort to uncover what the church looks like after Mars Hill. After the destruction left by the collapse of that Seattle-based mega-church, the conversations in this podcast season are our offerings towards a rebuilding. Listener resources: Read the transcript from this episode at transformingengagement.org/podcast If you are a Christian leader or pastor seeking a space for support, growth, and transformation for yourself or for your team, we invite you to participate in one of our cohort programs, called a Circle. To learn more and to get on the waitlist to be notified when our next Circle is offered, click here.
Jay and Clifton try to decode an inscrutable emblem from our past, Roadside Monument's Beside This Brief Hexagonal. https://www.facebook.com/roadsidemonument https://web.archive.org/web/20070608220652/http:/www.roadsidemonument.com:80/home.html https://mbird.com/religion/17-years-at-mars-hill-life-after-disillusionment/
In this episode of The Blitz, Pastor Jon shares some of his experiences with Acts 29, Mars Hill Church, and Mark Driscoll, and explains why Coram Deo Church left the Acts 29 Network.
In this episode of The Blitz, Pastor Jon shares some of his experiences with Acts 29, Mars Hill Church, and Mark Driscoll, and explains why Coram Deo Church left the Acts 29 Network.
Jeff Bettger (AKA Jeff Suffering) stops by to talk about his recently reformed 1990s Tooth and Nail band Ninety Pound Wuss, as well as his time playing music and being a pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle. We talk about his musical history, including Raft of Dead Monkeys, Suffering and the Hideous Thieves, and Team Strike Force, an early and very important band in the story of Mars Hill. He talks about discovering punk rock as a teenager, seeing Jesus as an anarchist, and his uncomfortable creative life as someone "too punk for the Christians and too Christian for the punks". He also talks about religious trauma and times he's experienced panic attacks as a result of his experience with Mars Hill. Find out more about what's happening with Ninety Pound Wuss here: https://linktr.ee/ninetypoundwuss Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com Twitter: Twitter: @vcwpod Zach- @muzach Dave- @Davejlester Podcast music by Zach Malm Logo by Zach Malm
Being a pastor--at any level--is hard work. Especially over the past few years, church leaders have had to deal with stresses and challenges that can be uniquely difficult. We all want to lead flourishing ministries while also maintaining healthy families and stable mental health. That may seem increasingly difficult, but it is possible with the right boundaries and right guardrails in place.On this episode, we talk with Bill Clem. Bill is the director of the Center for Pastoral Flourishing at Western Seminary, and he has a big heart for helping pastors avoid burnout in ministry. He has decades of church leadership experience in a variety of roles, including several years at Mars Hill Church in Seattle. He has first-hand experience and tons of research/resources to help lead your ministry and keep your sanity in modern church leadership.
Christ-centered leaders inspire and encourage their followers to live according to compassion, humility, honesty, and selflessness. They prioritize building positive relationships and promoting a sense of community and strive to create a workplace or organization that is guided by Christian values. In this new episode, Life Bridge Management CEO Sutton Turner teaches us about leading with a sense of purpose and meaning that goes beyond individual gain and seeks to positively impact the world. Key Points From This Episode: How did he get to lead teams in the Middle East?What transitions did he experience while working in Arab countries?What lessons did he learn from building a management company in the Middle East?What is the most important thing for him when leading a company?Why did he build Life Bridge Management?What are some of the most important metrics that he tracks?How does he give back to the community? Tweetables: “To build a culture based on love, which is based on grace, is one of the greatest opportunities that I have at age 53.”“We try our best to build a healthy culture in the property management business.”“What you guys started at Life Bridge Capital is a culture of love. And now we're just going to transfer that down, or organization because we love one another.”“When you have third-party management companies that are on a 30-day cancelable contract, there's no transparency because of fear of losing their job as the property manager. They're not going to be 100% transparent with you.”“For us to have a culture of love from the very, very top of Life Bridge Capital all the way down to the border at one of our properties in Colorado Springs, the only way to do that is to take over your own management company.”“And because you trust me, and we built that trust up, it's not like I'm not going to make mistakes. I'm going to make mistakes, actually. But I'm going to tell you my mistakes.”“I'm trying to give you guys perfect information so that you're able to make the very best investment decision possible.”Link Mentioned in Today's Episode:Sutton Turner on TwitterSutton Turner on LinkedInLife Bridge ManagementAbout Sutton TurnerSutton Turner is the CEO of Life Bridge Management. He has 30 years of experience in real estate, property management, and C-level roles. Sutton created and led the Wentwood Companies with his brother in 1997, which managed 36 apartment communities across 13 states with over 300 employees. In 2008, Sutton was asked by a major developer (Sorouh/Aldar) in Abu Dhabi to build a property management company called Khidmah (meaning “service” in Arabic). As CEO, Sutton created the first full-service real estate management company in Abu Dhabi, UAE, with $600 million in assets and $1.8 billion under development. A critical element of Khidmah's success was the recruitment of skilled workers and professionals from the Philippines, India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Egypt, and Syria. After establishing this management company in Abu Dhabi, Sutton moved on to Doha, Qatar, where he reorganized Qatar's property management company, Waseef, as CEO. Sutton has had two tenures in full-time ministry with Celebration Church (2006-2007) and Mars Hill Church (2011-2014). He is very grateful for the growth through both of these ministry experiences.
Join us for episode seven of season three of Pastor to Pioneer as Britton converses with Kirby Langley in Charlotte, North Carolina. Kirby has been and continues to be part of the church in a variety of ways and on multiple levels. From being involved in church software sales to being an elder at Mars Hill Church in Seattle—including the time when things crumbled badly there—to exploring what being the simple church looks like for him and his family, Kirby has seen a bit of everything. He shares with Britton about the mix of good and bad from his time in Seattle, and goes on to discuss his continued journey with Jesus and how it led him to North Carolina. Even as he explores simple church options, Kirby continues to be involved in the legacy church at the same time, discerning what might be best for him and his family. Kirby also share the ways in which he approaches questions about the church very differently now, in his forties, than he did or would have in his twenties or thirties.
Welcome to Season 4 of The Nook Podcast!With a new season comes a new series, Personal Jesus; No Cookie Cutter Faith... Looking at stories from people who have been through some incredibly tough times.Joining me to kick things off is Seth Studley. He and his wife, Melanie, run Anatomy of Us; an organization that is all about helping couples build strong marriages and families. Seth is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist, and Melanie is a Marriage Expert & Motivational Speaker. They have been married for 18 years and have three kids. Listen to the Studley's first appearance on this show HERE.***Please consider helping support The Nook financially:Support the showQuestions or comments can be sent to steven@nookpodcast.comJoin The Nook Facebook page!Steven's Social Media:Instagram and TwitterCheck out some great Christian apparel: Pace Christian ClothingUse the promo code "STEVEM15" and save 15% on your order!
Wendy Alsup and Amber discuss her time as deacon of women's theology at Mars Hill Church, how and why she was able to continue clinging to Jesus in the midst of suffering, and what a good Jesus hermeneutic has to do with it. Questions Discussed During Clinging to God When Your Church Falls Apart: You served as a Deacon in charge of Women's Theology and Training at Mars Hill in Seattle. Share your experience of stepping into that role and the ways you were able to serve women during that season With the success of The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast, many now have a more robust view of power struggles and abuse in the church. Were you able to continue teaching and serving women practical theology on a weekly basis, while behind the scenes the staff was “blowing up”? Expound on that a bit. You eventually left. What was that process like for you both emotionally and spiritually? What I love about your story is you didn't walk away from God or the Bible despite being deeply wounded by God's people. At one point you said, “A lot of people had problems with Mark Driscoll and just wrote off the Bible: ‘Well, if that's what the Bible teacher says, obviously, there's something wrong with the Bible.' But I believed in the Bible a long time before I ever got to know Mark Driscoll, and I'm going to believe in it now. So I don't think the problem's with the Bible.” Talk to us about what you think made a difference in your clinging to God and His Word vs. friends, colleagues, strangers who walk away. I think having written books like, Practical Theology for Women and The Gospel-Centered Woman helped to ground you in truth of God's character and what He says about His people, but not everyone has the foundation. Speak directly to the wounded soul, particularly the one who's been wounded by those in a position of spiritual authority. In “I Forgive You,” you weave some of your own personal journey of forgiveness in with the story of Joseph and how we witness him forgive. What hope do we find in Joseph's story? How can we apply some of those same principles to the people we need to forgive? SHOW NOTES cont. Resources Mentioned: Book: I Forgive You: Finding Peace and Moving Forward When Life Really Hurts by Wendy Alsup Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast: Ep. 7 State of Emergency Book: Companions in Suffering: Comfort for Times of Loss and Loneliness by Wendy Alsup and Trillia Newbell Book: Practical Theology for Women by Wendy Alsup ALL of Wendy's books The Gospel Coalition: Why I'm Going Back to Church After My Divorce by Wendy Alsup Theology for Women Etsy Shop Related Episodes: 106: Scot McKnight & Laura Barringer | Church Culture: Goodness vs. Abuse of Power 187: Wade Mullen | Power, Image Management, & the Church 73: Bethany Allen | Pastor of Spiritual Formation & Leadership Development Come be a part of the Grace Enough Gang Follow Grace Enough: Instagram | Facebook | YouTube Become a Grace Enough supporter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
On the podcast today, I have the absolutely amazing Sara Billups. Our show's format is very conversational and I love it that way. Truthfully I was so impressed, curious and moved by Sara's book Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find the Way Home that this episode is a little more like a conversations with friends over dinner. It ebbs and weaves and then starts one way and moves another with the feverent pace of “oh man, you too?!” and also, “holy smokes I've never thought about that before.” Sara shares pieces of her story of growing up in the environment of end times prophecies being commonplace over her plate of macaroni and cheese as a child, or a booth at a milkshake shop with a friend. She unpacks huge terms like premillenial dispensationalism, how heavily focused rapture narratives held her family captive from engaging life on this side of heaven, and asking big questions like how does tradition become theology in the middle of a genuine love for Jesus and then how do things get lost in fear or just being human? Sara would define an orphaned believer as someone who looks around the American church or just general broad strokes Christian culture and doesn't know where they belong. Or they are people like myself and Sara who sometimes struggle with what they're experiencing with many beloved brothers and sisters in Christ who are not acting like the Jesus we have experienced or of the Gospel. In that tension, how do put our eyes back on who God has always been and who He always will be? How do we pursue and embrace what role or gifts God has for us in this journey of healing? How do we allow God to use suffering, doubt, and confusion to draw us closer to Him no matter how much we desire to escape the pain? Its a lot, but its SO good. Even though I was a bit of a poor conversation steward today, (my over excitement can get the best of me sometimes!) I hope and pray somewhere along the way you found a space for you in this conversation. You get to bring all of you and your questions and your broken experiences to the Jesus who knows people better than we know ourselves. He's aware of what comes against His church, distracts His people and distorts His name. But He's not finished. There is so much more hope to be found here on earth, and together with Him in Heaven, no matter when we get to see Him, He is coming back for us. BUT He has SO MUCH for us before He comes. That's just one of the many gifts of the Gospel is the promise, and assurance that He will be with us no matter what happens next. You are so loved, friend. You matter, and your story matters. PS: Guess what y'all, the podcast book club is actually going to be reading this book together, AND Sara is (hopefully!) going to come talk with us about it as well because there's just so much more to unpack. So be sure and check out how to join us for the book club in our show notes, website or link in social media bios! Connecting with Sara: Book: Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find Their Way Home Instagram The Bitter Scroll Substack Website Episode Sponsor: Tony Crabtree of Crabtree Homes with Exit Realty Facebook Instagram Tik Tok Website YouTube References: The Late Great Planet Earth- Hal Lindsey “The Late Great Planet Earth” movie The rapture Pre-millienial dispensationalism The Cold War Cessationism Mars Hill Church John Mark Comer This Cultural Moment podcast Rise and Fall of Mars Hill story (via podcast) Mark Driscoll (Proceed with caution on this website…) Real time article of Mars Hill Church disbanding TO Fuller State Park in Memphis Schools of thought on when the rapture will take place John Nelson Darby Social Gospel Period Left Behind Series- authors Tim LaHaye, and Jerry Jenkins L. Ron Hubbard books Scientology beliefs (-- proceed with caution on any Scientology websites, y'all. My personal favorite resources for learning about Scientology are either “Going Clear” or “Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath”) The Chronicles of Narnia - C.S. Lewis “All My Favorite People” - Over the Rhine Christian Nationalism “Wedding Dress”- Derek Webb Caedmon's Call Redeeming Love -Francine Rivers Lectio Divina Religious Icons Taylor University Jay Kesler “As Good As It Gets” (the tuna salad scene) Eschatology Black eschatology Black Coffee with White Friends Dr. Amy-Jill Levine and our episode Jacob from the Insurrection and his response later in retrospect Scripture References: Daniel 7:9-10-, Matthew 24:36-44, Acts 2:37-39, 2 Peter 3:3-4, 2 Timothy 3:1-5 The End Times” -These are taken straight from scripture. The end of days is spoken about a ton in various locations in scripture, but they need A LOT of context. Here is a continued list, but I encourage you to proceed with Holy Spirit-led discernment. There is much to be studied, but the general point is: Jesus is coming back, we don't know when, we're called to live for Him like every day is our last, but to walk with trust and hope in the abundant life Jesus came, died and rose again to give us, and it'll get real messy, but God is a purely holy, good God and righteous Judge. The Ancient of Days is trustworthy with our futures. - xo, Em Revelation 13:15-18- The mark of the beast Revelation 6:1-16:21- The 7 year tribulation Ezekiel 38-39- The battle of Gog and Magog The book of Revelation- A brief teaching on it part 1 and part 2 from the Bible Project John 14:18-”I will not leave you as orphans, I will come to you.” 1 John 1:8-9, Hebrews 13:8- Jesus' mercy never runs out Matthew 28:19- Jesus left us with the church The book of Hosea Romans 8:15, Ephesians 1:6, 1 John 3:1-I am beloved because the Lord says so Lamentations 3:22-23- God's mercies are new every morning Ephesians 5:22-23, Revelation 18-22- The church is called the Bride of Christ Matthew 16:17-19- The gates of hell cannot stand against it Matthew 5-7- Sermon on the Mount Genesis 3:8-24- When Adam and Eve left the garden Psalm 23 Luke 4:14-21, John 3:16- Jesus came for all people Revelation 21:4- Every tear dried Acts 15, see also Galatians 5:2-6- The book of Acts and whether or not you had to be Jewish Luke 15- The Lost Sheep John 1:5- The Light of the world has come and darkness has not overcome it Psalm 107:2-The redeemed of the Lord tell their story Acts 6:1–1- (and John 14:18) Jesus is coming back for us JOIN OUR PATREON COMMUNITY!!!! 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In the final episode of our mini-series, Anatomy of Redemption, we share where we are now; we explore how we have healed since Mars Hill Church fell apart and talk about what our journey back to church, faith, and most importantly, God has looked like! LINKS: https://anatomyofus.com/ https://www.patreon.com/m/anatomyofus Power Couple Planner: https://anatomyofus.com/power-couple-planner Back to Basics Bootcamp Course: https://anatomyofus.com/backtobasics Interested in Women's Group Coaching? Apply Now: https://anatomyofus.com/womens-group-coaching Join Seth's Badass Husband Mastermind: badasshusband.com Download the Clearing Structure in the Resources section at https://www.anatomyofus.com/ High-Performance Coaching: https://anatomyofus.com/coaching To find a virtual counselor visit http://betterhelp.com/us Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the fourth episode of our mini-series, Anatomy of Redemption, we share our experience of the months and years following the dissolution of Mars Hill Church. We talk about unexpected challenges, conflicting feelings about finding another church family, and so much more. LINKS: https://anatomyofus.com/ https://www.patreon.com/m/anatomyofus Power Couple Planner: https://anatomyofus.com/power-couple-planner Back to Basics Bootcamp Course: https://anatomyofus.com/backtobasics Interested in Women's Group Coaching? Apply Now: https://anatomyofus.com/womens-group-coaching Join Seth's Badass Husband Mastermind: badasshusband.com Download the Clearing Structure in the Resources section at https://www.anatomyofus.com/ High-Performance Coaching: https://anatomyofus.com/coaching To find a virtual counselor visit http://betterhelp.com/us Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the second episode of our mini-series, Anatomy of Redemption, we discuss what our Mars Hill Church community meant to us, what it looked like, and how it functioned in the larger picture of our life and family. Everything from community groups to leading worship on Sundays with Dustin Kensrue. LINKS: https://anatomyofus.com/ https://www.patreon.com/m/anatomyofus Power Couple Planner: https://anatomyofus.com/power-couple-planner Back to Basics Bootcamp Course: https://anatomyofus.com/backtobasics Interested in Women's Group Coaching? Apply Now: https://anatomyofus.com/womens-group-coaching Join Seth's Badass Husband Mastermind: badasshusband.com Download the Clearing Structure in the Resources section at https://www.anatomyofus.com/ High-Performance Coaching: https://anatomyofus.com/coaching To find a virtual counselor visit http://betterhelp.com/us Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this first episode of our mini-series, Anatomy of Redemption, we discuss our individual experiences with church, religion, and faith, and share the journey of discovering Mars Hill Church in its early days. LINKS: https://anatomyofus.com/ https://www.patreon.com/m/anatomyofus Power Couple Planner: https://anatomyofus.com/power-couple-planner Back to Basics Bootcamp Course: https://anatomyofus.com/backtobasics Interested in Women's Group Coaching? Apply Now: https://anatomyofus.com/womens-group-coaching Join Seth's Badass Husband Mastermind: badasshusband.com Download the Clearing Structure in the Resources section at https://www.anatomyofus.com/ High-Performance Coaching: https://anatomyofus.com/coaching To find a virtual counselor visit http://betterhelp.com/us Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
When forgiveness feels impossible! “I forgive you.” Simple words, and liberating ones – but hard, too. You may think the betrayal you have experienced is in the realm of the unforgivable. Wendy Alsup understands. She experienced severe church conflict while serving in the women's ministry at Mars Hill Church, followed by an unwanted divorce. The losses of betrayal eventually forced her to move from her home in Seattle, leaving behind deep friendships and everything familiar to her two sons. Her understanding of forgiveness did not come easily for her so she does not sugarcoat the struggles she experienced. In this special Help & Hope Podcast, Wendy joins us for our summer Beyond the Book – Ask the Author series. Invited guests submitted questions for Wendy, and her answers reveal deep wisdom and understanding for those struggling with the concept of forgiveness. Some of the questions Wendy answers: · How do you get past the astonishment, hurt, and dislike for a person you cared for, had a relationship with, and enjoyed when they have repeatedly turned against you? · How do you "move on" in forgiveness when you still have to interact with people who hurt you? · After you left Mars Hill, lots of your friends stayed. Did you pursue them to tell them your story, your reasons for leaving in an attempt to get them to leave, too? How do you let go of the need to protect your reputation or do you? · When someone asks you to forgive them for an offense, does it mean that you will never bring up the offense again? · Through conflict our church leadership mishandled, a lot of friends and I lost our strong church family – none of us feels as though we will ever find such a loving community again. How do you venture back into church life when you feel so cynical? · How does understanding ambiguous loss help us better understand our own grief over broken relationships, especially when we are powerless to effect any change in the circumstances? · And many more. Listen and please pass on this important conversation. You can also listen to these Help & Hope podcasts with Wendy: Companionship in Suffering – Wendy Alsup I Forgive You – Wendy Alsup
“I forgive you.” Simple words, and liberating ones – but hard, too. You may think the betrayal you have experienced is in the realm of the unforgivable. Wendy Alsup understands. She experienced severe church conflict while serving in the women's ministry at Mars Hill Church, followed by an unwanted divorce. The losses of betrayal eventually forced her to move from her home in Seattle, leaving behind deep friendships and everything familiar to her two sons. Her understanding of forgiveness did not come easily for her so she does not sugarcoat the struggles she experienced. In this special Help & Hope Podcast, Wendy joins us for our summer Beyond the Book – Ask the Author series. Invited guests submitted questions for Wendy and her answers reveal deep wisdom and understanding for those struggling with the concept of forgiveness. Some of the questions Wendy answers: • How do you get past the astonishment, hurt, and dislike for a person you cared for, had a relationship with, and enjoyed when they have repeatedly turned against you? • How do you "move on" in forgiveness when you still have to interact with people who hurt you? • After you left Mars Hill, lots of your friends stayed. Did you pursue them to tell them your story, your reasons for leaving in an attempt to get them to leave, too? How do you let go of the need to protect your reputation or do you? • When someone asks you to forgive them for an offense, does it mean that you will never bring up the offense again? • Through conflict our church leadership mishandled, a lot of friends and I lost our strong church family – none of us feels as though we will ever find such a loving community again. How do you venture back into church life when you feel so cynical? • How does understanding ambiguous loss help us better understand our own grief over broken relationships, especially when we are powerless to effect any change in the circumstances? • And many more. Listen and please pass on this important conversation.
More than two years since producer Mike Cosper began recording interviews for the show, The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill returns with its most poignant episode yet -- a road trip to Seattle to stand in the spaces where Mars Hill Church began. This epilogue of the critically-acclaimed podcast sends Cosper and executive producer Erik Petrik on a trip down memory lane, visiting the buildings and church members who formed the vibrant community that would one day fall apart. From Seattle living rooms crammed with chairs to an empty sanctuary slated for demolition, discover afresh the mystery of God working in broken places. And, as you see how “time humbles and reveals all,” let the story of Mars Hill compel you toward truth not trends, grace not grandeur. Come, meet the people and places that have remained, marked indelibly with love for the gospel and for Seattle. Meet those who never left. As this series concludes, a special thanks to: Joy Beth Smith, Andrea Palpant Dilley, Morgan Lee, Russell Moore, Ted Olsen, Daniel Silliman and Kate Shellnutt. Thank you, especially to Tim Dalrymple and Erik Petrik, Kate Siefker and to Sarah and the Cosper girls. Thank you to the members of Mars Hill Church, especially, Wendy Alsup, Jesse Bryan, Sutton Turner, Tim Smith, Aaron Gray, Jen Smidt and Ben Vandermeer. “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Producer, Writer, Editor, Host, and Mix Engineer: Mike Cosper Associate Producers: Azurae Phelps and Joy Beth Smith Director of Operations: Matt Stevens Music and Sound Design: Kate Siefker Graphic Design: Bryan Todd Social Media: Kate Lucky Editorial Consultant: Andrea Palpant Dilley Editor in Chief: Russell Moore Closing Song: "Satisfied in You" by Brian Eichelberger Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
I am so very excited to again invite Matt Linden to the podcast. This is Matt's third visit to Coffee with Keith and this gave us a chance to catch up and gave Matt a chance to share three lessons that he has really learned over the last 12-18 mos. of his queer, Christian journey. Matt Linden is a gay Christian from Tacoma, Washington. He's a church kid who grew up in a conservative non-denominational environment – so when he realized he was gay at 13, a 21-year battle began to reconcile his faith with his sexuality. He was a member and Community Group leader at Mars Hill Church in Seattle from 2008-2014, and after finally coming out in 2019 at age 34, he resolved to tell his story. On his blog, The Crossing (crossingblog.com), Matt tells the story of his religious trauma in memoir format. His hope is to help himself heal and sort out his own theology, as well as let others know they are not alone in the struggle to follow Jesus as LGBTQ Christians. 1.Matt's Blog, The Crossing: https://crossingblog.com/2.Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattlinden/Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional nor am I a licensed therapist. If you need either of those services, please consult a local professional.To connect with me on Instagram, visit here.Join the "Coffee Clan" Patreon group with just a $5 monthly gift. (Cool extras in this membership)Free Support Group for BI+ (open to all LGBTQ+): Circle of Champions Check out the "Bisexual Champions-Silver" Group Coaching HERE (Jan-Feb, 2023)Check out the "Bisexual Champions-Single" Group Coaching Here (Mar-Apr, 2023)Free: 7 Journal prompts for bisexualsTo visit my website and learn moreThe Bisexual Life: 1-on-1 Coaching for any season of lifeJumpstart Your Healing as a Bi+ Christian: 1-on-1 Coaching Coming Out as Bi+: 1-on-1 CoachingBisexual Relationship Coaching (Couple)Are you an older adult and perhaps you are just now coming to terms with your true identity as bisexual? Perhaps you haven't share this news with anyone. Your spouse or partner may not even know. I get it. This is a very delicate time in your life and that's why I want to encourage you to check out the "Bisexual Champions-Silver" group coaching journey coming up Jan-Feb, 2023. Visit HERE. This is gonna be a hoot. As a member of the "Coffee Club," you are going to gain access to private podcast episodes and a private FB group where we will be interacting and having fun. Come join my wife, Candace, and me as we spill the tea...or coffee in our case...and just have a great time doing. it. The low cost just helps with podcast expenses.
Guest Bios Show Transcript Since his abrupt resignation from Mars Hill Church in 2014, Mark Driscoll has claimed he was the victim of a vindictive plot. But last week, Driscoll dropped a bombshell. He claimed that Mars Hill leaders were planning to accuse him of adultery if he didn't resign. In this week's podcast, Sutton Turner—one of only three former executive elders at Mars Hill—joins me to set the record straight.
Sponsor: Learn more and buy Leadership Not by the Book by clicking here.West Virginia has agreed to amend its policies to allow trans-identified individuals to more easily change the gender marker on their birth certificates.Saddleback Church does not want to leave the Southern Baptist Convention over their recent support of female pastors, according to recently installed lead pastor Andy Wood.Years after resigning as leader of the now defunct Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, because God told him a “trap” has been set for him, Mark Driscoll, who now serves as founding senior pastor of Trinity Church in Scottsdale, Arizona, claimed on Sunday that Mars Hill leaders had planned to accuse him of adultery.Iranian UFC fighter Beneil Dariush took a moment during his recent victory speech to share the hope he has in Christ with the people of his country amid weeks of social unrest following the death of Mahsa Amini.Subscribe to this Podcast Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Overcast Subscribe to Generation Indoctrination Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Get the Edifi App Download for iPhone Download for Android Subscribe to Our Newsletter Subscribe to the Freedom Post, delivered every Monday and Thursday Click here to get the top headlines delivered to your inbox every morning! Links to the News WV eases process for amending gender on birth certificates | Politics News Saddleback does not want to leave SBC over female pastor debate | Church & Ministries News Catholic bishop: Biden has 'single-minded' focus on abortion | Politics News Why was an organ harvesting company seen at Planned Parenthood | U.S. News Hobby Lobby's David Green: 'We truly believe that it's God's | U.S. News Mark Driscoll: Mars Hill leaders plotted to accuse me of adultery | Church & Ministries News Alito says Dobbs leak made justices 'targets for assassination' | Politics News Iranian UFC fighter shares freedom in Christ amid unrest in Iran | Sports News
Zach Malm came from a family prominent in the Vineyard church world and went to Seattle Pacific University where he was sorely disappointed in both the theological depth and the academic rigor. He ended up seeking these things at a new startup church called Mars Hill. Yes, that Mars Hill. The good news Is that Zach would eventually be credited with bringing Mars Hill down when he revealed to the world that a misogynistic asshole posting on the church website was none other than head pastor Mark Driscoll, himself. He deconstructed during the Trump era and now is a co-host of the Veterans of Culture Wars podcast. You can hear more about Zach's epic tale of taking down Mars Hill Church on the Full Mutuality Podcast, and his own VCW podcast. Bonus this week: We wrote and recorded a song. It's called, "Jesus Is Cool- A-minor Worship). We joked on the VCW podcast that there weren't any worship songs in A-minor, so we decided to write a deconstruction "worship" song. Mr. ExVangelical, himself, Blake Chastain, joined the choir at the end. The song is up on Scott's soundcloud. Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media Collective Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi, and Shin Kawasaki and Wingo Shackleford Join the Chapel Probation Patreon to support Scott and for bonus content. Join the Chapel Probation Facebook group to continue the conversations. Follow Scott on Instagram and Twitter You can subscribe to Scott's newsletter and learn more about the book, the blog, and performances at rscottokamoto.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/scott-okamoto/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/scott-okamoto/support
Matt Johnson, former Mars Hill elder and drummer in the "Christians in a band not Christian Band" bands Roadside Monument, Blenderhead, and Raft of Dead Monkeys talks with us about the pre-Mars Hill 1990s Seattle Christian punk community, centered around Calvary Chapel in the University District, where Damien Jurado, Dave Bazan and many others also attended. We talk about his time in those bands, particularly Roadside Monument, who recently played a reunion show at Furnace Fest. We also talk about his 17 years at Mars Hill, what it was like being on staff as it was imploding, and the lingering trauma of that experience. -Buy Matt Johnson's book "Getting Jesus Wrong" right here: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/getting-jesus-wrong-matt-johnson/1124724146 -Matt Johnson writes in Mockingbird while looking back at his experiences at Mars Hill Church and after: https://mbird.com/religion/17-years-at-mars-hill-life-after-disillusionment/ -Follow Roadside Monument on Instagram: @roadsidemonumentband -Read about and see a video of their 2017 Seattle reunion show: https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2017/06/19/532960633/roadside-monument-15-years-and-2-700-miles-later-reunite-a-lost-seattle -Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com -Buy VCW merch: https://www.etsy.com/shop/VCWHall Twitter: Twitter: @vcwpod Zach- @muzach Dave- @Davejlester Podcast music by Zach Malm Logo by Zach Malm
Tim sits down with co-founder of Mars Hill Church, Mike Gunn. We chat about ministry, what Mars Hill and Mark Driscoll were really like, and his thoughts on the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast put out by Christianity Today. We also ask the most important question: Did Mark Driscoll really read a book a day? Listen anywhere: https://practicallypastoring.com/ Practically Pastoring Conference 2023 - February 20-22, 2023! PracticallyPastoringConference.com Join our mailing list: https://bit.ly/3plt5so --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/practicallypastoring/message
Ever wondered what it was like to be a Worship Leader at Mars Hill Church during its rise and fall? Today, Zach Bolen shares what it was like to lead in a middle tier position during the church's meteoric rise & devastating fall. The wisdom he shares in this episode is priceless & will help you navigate any difficult leadership dynamic you might ever face. There's a lot of extremely valuable lessons to learn from this cautionary tale, hear it here today! Mentioned in the Episode Citizens' New Music --- If you like what you hear, please leave us a review! Also, feel free to shoot us an e-mail at podcast@worshiponline.com & tell us how we can better serve you and your church through this podcast. Don't forget to sign up for your FREE 2-week subscription to Worship Online at worshiponline.com/podcast! The Worship Online Podcast is produced by Worship Online in Nashville, TN. Hosted & Produced by Josh Kluge Backing Tracks by Johnluke Lewis
When author and therapist Dan Allender met Mark Driscoll in 1998, he hoped the two might share building space for their respective ministries. While conversations remained cordial, it didn't take long for Allender to realize he and Mark aimed to build entirely different institutions -- Allender, a school for healing and trauma care, and Mark, a faith community with the aspirations of Babel. Narcissism would keep the two from building on a common foundation. Thirty years later, Allender joins host Mike Cosper for an honest conversation about where that narcissism led and how Mars Hill Church and the city of Seattle suffered under its dogmatism. With incisive yet gentle wisdom, Allender opens the aperture beyond Mars Hill to discuss how trauma creates wounds on which narcissism thrives, how the numbness of anger can lead to isolation, and how the very real joy of spiritual connection can leave hurting people confused and ashamed after the structures they've trusted crumble. If you've experienced spiritual abuse or you desire deeper honesty and humility in ministry, this bonus episode offers a foundational conversation about how to face trauma, how to identify unhealthy leadership patterns, and how to resist the siren call of sin that lures Christians to greatness without cost. For more information about Dan Allender's work, visit theallendercenter.org “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Producer, Writer, Editor, Host, and Mix Engineer: Mike Cosper Associate Producers: Joy Beth Smith and Azurae Phelps Music and Sound Design: Kate Siefker Graphic Design: Bryan Todd Social Media: Kate Lucky Editor in Chief: Timothy Dalrymple Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Today, my interview is with Bryan Gill and Brad Hill of The Storied Outdoor Podcast. Bryan Gill, his wife, and two kids live in Birmingham, Ala. where he is an administrator in higher education. He is the author of several men's devotional books and his debut novel, The Devils in Alabama, a southern suspense novel that was released in 2021. Bryan is the co-host of The Storied Outdoors, a podcast that's somewhere between Lewis and Tolkien and Lewis and Clark. He enjoys all things outdoors including fly fishing, kayaking, and wildlife photography. You can learn more about Bryan at his website, www.bryangill.com. Brad is a Family and missions pastor for Mars Hill Church in Mobile, Ala. When he's not serving in those capacities, you can find him outdoors, on a hike, photographing wildlife, drinking coffee, or wading a river with a fly rod in his hand. Brad is married to Paige Hill, and they have two children. Brad is the other co-host of The Storied Outdoors, a podcast that's somewhere between Lewis and Tolkien and Lewis and Clark. Go to menareforged.com for more.
“The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” is one of the most popular Christian podcasts of the past year. It chronicles how Mars Hill Church in Seattle went from one of the most influential multisite evangelical churches in the U.S. to an abuse- and scandal-ridden nightmare, finally having to shut its doors for good in […]
“The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” is one of the most popular Christian podcasts of the past year. It chronicles how Mars Hill Church in Seattle went from one of the most influential multisite evangelical churches in the U.S. to an abuse- and scandal-ridden nightmare, finally having to shut its doors for good in 2014 following the resignation of its charismatic founder, Mark Driscoll. Eric Kohn, Acton's director of marketing and communications, sits down with Mike Cosper, producer, writer, and host of the podcast, to discuss the lessons from the stories Cosper tells in “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill,” as well as the problems associated with celebrity pastors and church institutions. Subscribe to our podcasts ‘The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill' Podcasts | Christianity Today About Mike Cosper Is Christianity doing more harm than good to American men? | Acton Institute PowerBlog Saving men requires the leadership of laymen | Acton Institute PowerBlog Faithfulness Is the Future of the Church | Acton Institute See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
We are back with another discussion with The Whole Church Round Table! We have gathered leaders from all kinds of different traditions and denominations in the Church to discuss the problems the Church is facing today, together! Today we address questions like, What is a Church hurt? Does the Church cultivate a culture of abuse or of love? How do you heal when you've been hurt by the church? How do you know when you should leave a church? What is religious trauma? What does the Bible say about Church hurt? What is spiritual abuse? How do you address spiritual abuse? Why are women often both the victim and the one to blame for sexual abuse in the Church? Is it the responsibility of women to be more modest, or is the responsibility of men to act more decent? We talk through examples like why so many Megachurches end with stories of spiritual abuse or Church hurt. What have we learned from the Hillsong Megachurch exposed? What did the southern baptist church sexual abuse report teach us? What is the southern baptist convention and are they alone in dealing with sexual abuse in the Church? Why has sexual abuse become so prevalent in our churches? What have we learned from the story of Mark Driscoll, american author and pastor of Mars Hill Church? What can examples of hurt from Mars Hill Church like those of Jesse Bryan, William Wallace, Mike Gunn teach us? How do we discuss examples like the Ravi Zacharias sexual assaults that have come to light? We even discuss First Baptist Church - Church in Hammond, Indianna, and ask where is Pastor Jack Schaap now that Pastor Jack has been released? On today's round table discussion, we have Joshua Noel (a charismatic Lutheran), TJ Blackwell (Pentecostal), https://player.captivate.fm/collection/1f36c928-8803-4706-b7fa-7387904ebee2 (Rev Steve Lanclos) (Anglican), https://player.captivate.fm/episode/5bfcc4eb-4349-476d-a206-c10213863b4d (Christian Ashley) (Baptist), https://player.captivate.fm/collection/6f47f206-1702-46ec-98cf-05061a529ca6 (Joe Dea) (Home Church), https://player.captivate.fm/collection/06b0d5e9-8074-4239-b6db-ead47870ab88 (Brandon Knight) (Nondenominational), and https://player.captivate.fm/collection/cb84497a-984e-4c5b-ad9c-4b67b470f1fd (Father Jonathan Resmini) (Orthodox). . Join in on our discussions about the Church in our Facebook group, The Whole Church Group, https://www.facebook.com/groups/434522234066940 (here). . Please consider sponsoring our show on Patreon, https://www.patreon.com/thewholechurchpodcast (here), for access to our extra content like our "Too Long; Didn't Listen" series, our "Pet Peeves" series, and our "Whole Church News" episodes! . Make a one-time donation, https://cash.app/$wholechurch (here). . Subscribe to our show, https://the-whole-church-podcast.captivate.fm/listen (here). . Rate us & leave a review, https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-whole-church-podcast-104837 (here).
Mars Hill was a megachurch in Seattle, Washington. It was founded in 1995 and folded in 2014. What happened in between was recently detailed on a podcast called The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. As part of that, the show described a group of leaders at the church that took a stand against some of the sins of the pastor at the church. This group is often referred to as "The Noble Nine." One of those nine was Ryan Welsh.Episode 5 told the story of how God used depression, the prayers of a mom, and a Young Life camp to show Ryan that Jesus is what makes life matter. In this bonus episode Ryan talks about the work he did at Mars Hill, how the end of his time at the church made him feel, the plan he tried to make to leave the church earlier, and why the turmoil he experienced at there never made him consider leaving Christianity. He also shares his thoughts on "The Noble Nine" label.At the end of this episode you'll hear the testimony of a women named Jo. It starts with the tragic death of her son, but ends as a story of faithfulness—God's to her and her's to God. "The Noble Nine" Letter / Ryan's Facebook PostRyan on TwitterRyan's Sermons Chad Harms on InstagramTestimonyPodcast.comDonate to the Show
With millions of downloads and a top 3 ranking at one point on Apple podcast, The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill had many of us captivated. From a legal standpoint, the decline and ultimate demise of Mars Hill Church offers a cautionary tale with respect to governance and alterations to decision-making structures. Founded in 1996 as a home Bible study, Mars Hill Church grew to more than 12,000 people at 15 locations in weekly attendance. After a series of internal conflicts and troublesome behaviors of its lead pastor, Mark Driscoll, the church experienced a dramatic collapse in 2014. In this episode of the Church Law podcast, Erika talks with Mike Cosper, creator and host of The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, about the trouble that can arise when a change in church governance limits who can participate in the decision-making process. Show notes: · The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast · Erika Cole's article, “The Dangers of a Quiet Governance Change” · Church Governance: What Leaders Must Know to Conduct Legally Sound Church Business Questions? We welcome them! Please email Erika Cole at contact@takethenextcall.com. Erika reads each comment and may answer your question in an upcoming episode. See all episodes of Church Law. The Church Law podcast is part of Christianity Today's ChurchLawAndTax.com, a not-for-profit publishing ministry. Erika E. Cole, Esq., known as The Church Attorney®, is one of only a handful of attorneys in the nation who practices exclusively in the area of church law. She currently serves as a senior editorial advisor for Christianity Today's ChurchLawAndTax.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
“The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” is a podcast produced by Christianity Today and it has gone viral in popularity. What can we, as church planters and pastors, learn from listening to this story of a popular Seattle church exploding in growth, only to have it all fall apart to leave so many devastated? You don't have to listen to that podcast first, before gleaning some wisdom from this episode of Unfiltered. It's not uncommon for church planters to wrestle with their influence. Let's talk about it. 0:22 Lee introduces the conversation about the podcast The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill that has grown in popularity in the past year.1:17 Lee says the podcast has been a big conversation topic within the church and would like to process it from a listener's side.1:57 Lee asks Danny what stood out to him as he listened to The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill.2:15 Danny states that Mark Driscoll, the pastor at the center of the Mars Hill story, was influential from afar in his own life. 2:36 Danny talks about how his perspective of the story changed from the beginning to the middle. He found the story both disheartening and convicting. 3:25 Lee asks Danny to unpack that statement.3:26 Danny explains that it was disheartening to hear what was happening behind the scenes at Mars Hill Church. 3:56 The convicting part of the story for Danny was seeing some tendencies of pride in himself and other leaders.4:30 As Danny works with church planters, the very things he's looking for are what made Mark Driscoll a successful church planter. But those characteristics can also be destructive, when left unchecked.4:55 Danny asks Lee what he thought of the podcast.5:09 Lee thinks it's sobering that there's always a dark side to church planters' leadership styles.5:30 Lee appreciated Christianity Today's level of in-depth journalism when it came to hearing past employees' side of the story.5:54 Lee gives the reminder that as people in authority in church leadership, there's a responsibility to steward the influence God has given.6:56 Another reaction Lee had to the podcast were moments when he cringed over some of the behind-the-scenes behavior and wondered how much “dirty laundry” should be aired when taking a deep dive into a church's story.7:38 Danny finds it interesting that this podcast struck a chord not only with church leaders, but with church attenders. He has some concerns that people will have a fear of church leadership and will want to get rid of it entirely. 8:42 Acts 29 is a ministry that is discussed at length in The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. Danny talks about how the ministry has changed since Mark Driscoll left Mars Hill Church and it is not the same ministry it was in years past.9:29 Danny concludes that after listening to the podcast, he walked away realizing everyone is messed up and it's only through God that the church continues to grow and thrive.9:50 For Lee, listening to the podcast brought his understanding of the dangers of celebrity for pastors to another level.10:50 Lee encourages church planters to think about why they're doing ministry in the first place. Remembering the importance of helping people follow Jesus can keep pride at bay.11:17 Danny talks about the role culture and social media has in the fall of celebrity pastors.12:07 Lee appreciates how the podcast attempted to point out the flaws of some of the wrong things church planters pursue when going into ministry.13:13 Lee asks Danny what he would say to those who haven't listened to the podcast.13:17 Danny encourages Unfiltered listeners to check out The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast. And as they listen, they should ask God to convict them and learn from the mistakes of others.13:41 Lee thinks a church planter understanding their influence is a journey they always need to wrestle with and think about their intentions.
Matt Johnson used to live in Mark Driscoll's basement as “one of the interns” (inside joke you'll find out later) and eventually became an integral part of Mars Hill Church's operations and ministries, as a pastor. On this episode, Matt and Joey reflect on Christianity Today's The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast, including guesswork on Driscoll's heart, ("that only God can judge") mental state and marriage. Reflecting on the story of Mars Hill, Matt is left with a faith unshaken but a complete distrust of the competitive-driven, consumer-minded, charismatically-led model of church-planting and that model of church in general. We discuss here the power of charisma, “spiritual narcissism,” and whether things are different at Driscoll's new church in Phoenix. There's also some “Driscoll Myths” debunked, including Mark's “they're out to get me” narrative of the "divorce." We also ask Matt if he was personally intimidated by Mark and whether he currently has empathy for him. At the beginning of the episode, Ellen shares with Joey and Ryan Amick, her problem with alcohol.17 Years At Mars Hill on Mockingbird.Getting Jesus Wrong by Matt Johnson Getting Jesus Wrong (Matt Johnson) Episode 202 Join us as a Patron!Join our mailing list to keep up with everything.Tip any amount $ to Venmo for a PWNA Sticker.Joey/PWNA Instagram and TwitterCurrent DonorSee giving opportunityJoin the PWNA Discussion Facebook GroupWe are on YouTube. PWNAcontact@gmail.com for correspondence.Theme song, courtesy of Derek MinorOther music originally composed by Joel Hamilton and Joel Hamilton + friends, and Ray Deezy. Executive Producer of PWNApod: Jared SvendsenSupport the show
Many people are listening to The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill. Many people have been impacted by Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church--in positive and negative ways. It seemed appropriate to us to have a conversation about the podcast. Our aim is not to cast shade on Mark Driscoll or Mars Hill, but rather, to consider things that we all can learn. We bring on our newest regular contributor, Patrick Crandall, for this conversation. Semper Reformanda: The guys talk about an appropriate posture regarding the failures of other Christians and Christian leaders. And then, we consider how pastors and members can work to build healthy cultures of leadership in our churches. FREE ebook theocast.org/primer SUPPORT Theocast: https://theocast.org/give/ FACEBOOK: Theocast: https://www.facebook.com/Theocast.org TWITTER: Theocast: https://twitter.com/theocast_org INSTAGRAM: Theocast: https://www.instagram.com/theocast_org/