Podcast appearances and mentions of Robert Rose

Huge research uncovers the obvious. Television and "traditional media" is going obsolete, as social media revenues and watch/listen time dominates. It is indeed the end of the living room. The boys review reports from WPP and NiemenLab. In marketing winners, Terry Moran launches a substack after being fired. But shouldn't he have had one already? Contractual reasons aside, the boys detail a marketing/creator survival plan that's not just a nice to have. Rants and raves include Answer Engine Optimization Hype and the GENIUS act. ----- This week's links: Creators Overtake Traditional Media The Brand/Studio Line Blurs Social Media Overtakes TV Ads on Whatsapp Terry Moran Launches Substack Journalist Survival Plan Genius Act Progress ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

In this episode of Great Practice, Great Life®, Steve Riley welcomes back content marketing guru Robert Rose for a powerful conversation tailored to attorneys and law firm owners looking to improve their marketing strategy. Robert shares how lawyers can turn their natural communication strengths, advocacy, storytelling, and clarity into a winning content marketing strategy. His tips are practical, achievable, and designed for busy professionals. Many small and solo law firms rely almost exclusively on referrals. While referrals are important, they aren't a full marketing plan. Robert explains why a consistent and structured marketing strategy is critical for growth. He shares how attorneys often treat marketing as an occasional task instead of a business function and how to change that. You'll learn why templated, generic marketing content usually fails, and what to do instead. Steve and Robert dive into how to create authentic, targeted content that speaks to your ideal clients. Whether you're using LinkedIn to connect with professionals or Facebook for a broader reach, your content should reflect your voice and values. The episode also explores how referral partnerships and social media can complement content marketing to elevate your firm's visibility and authority. Robert offers simple ways to get started—without overwhelming your schedule or sacrificing billable hours. If you're tired of wasting time and money on marketing that doesn't work, this episode is your roadmap to doing it right. In this episode, you will hear: Strategies for small law firms to leverage content marketing, featuring insights from expert Robert Rose Transforming lawyers' advocacy and storytelling skills into effective content marketing tools Overcoming misconceptions about marketing as a sporadic activity The importance of a consistent, structured approach Utilizing social media and referral partnerships to enhance law firm presence and brand voice Emphasizing personalized, creative marketing strategies over templated approaches Aligning marketing efforts with personal and professional satisfaction for attorneys Addressing common challenges and pitfalls in law firm marketing, including a lack of strategy and fear of commoditization Follow and Review: We'd love for you to follow us if you haven't yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We'd love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If there's a topic you would like us to cover on an upcoming episode, please email us at steve.riley@atticusadvantage.com. Supporting Resources: Robert Rose: robertrose.net Robert Rose LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/robrose Seventh Bear: seventhbear.com Request a free discovery call with Robert Rose! atticusadvantage.com/robertrose Episode 083: Content Marketing for Lawyers with Robert Rose: atticusadvantage.com/podcast/mastering-content-marketing-for-small-and-solo-law-firms Episode 029: Just Because Every Other Lawyer is Doing It Doesn't Mean You Should with Robert Rose:  atticusadvantage.com/podcast/just-because-every-other-lawyer-is-doing-it-doesnt-mean-you-should-with-robert-rose Content Marketing Strategy: Harness the Power of Your Brand's Voice by Robert Rose: www.amazon.com/Content-Marketing-Strategy-Harness-Brands/dp/1398611506 Killing Marketing: How Innovative Businesses Are Turning Marketing Cost Into Profit by Robert Rose: www.amazon.com/Killing-Marketing-Innovative-Businesses-Turning/dp/1260026426 The Summit: atticussummit.com Workshop: Grow Your Practice With AI:  atticusadvantage.com/workshops/grow-your-law-practice-with-ai Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Mary Meeker, who some describe as the queen of the internet, has published a 340-page report called Trends – Artificial Intelligence, that Robert has some thoughts on, so that's this week's topic, discussed over a cocktail blended especially for Father's Day tomorrow.  They discuss: The challenge of reporting on AI, as while the report is excellent, some points feel dated due to the fast pace of AI development.  AI should be viewed as a tool rather than a replacement for human workers. People describe themselves as  AI-enhanced, but no one ever said they are “spreadsheet-enhanced”. There's skepticism about AI's capabilities compared to human intelligence and the need for diverse human input.  AI is “free puppies”, not “free beer”; it's not saving as much human work as has been predicted. Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Trends – Artificial Intelligence (AI) - Mary Meeker / Bond  Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe and Robert break down Mary Meeker's "Future of AI" report and discuss the biggest opportunities and threats for marketers and creators in the future. Disney sues Midjourney in yet another lawsuit against AI companies. When will it stop and why should we care? And Meta invests $15 billion more in AI, trying to catch up in the AI race. In winners and losers, Joe discusses how to get found in AI searches and Robert talks about the failed mainstream media with the LA coverage. Rants and raves include a new creator economy lobbying group from MatPat and a boost to musical theater. ----- This week's links: Disney Sues Midjourney The Future of AI Report Meta Makes $15 Billion Bet on AGI How to Get Found in AI Search [Chart] MatPat Starts Creator Caucus Live Theater Gets a Boost ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

As it's Saturday, you may be expecting our host Ian Truscott to be sipping a cocktail and picking the brains of Robert Rose in the Rose & Rockstar, our virtual bar. However, an overrunning appointment means Robert didn't make it to the bar, so Ian goes solo. For this last-minute solo, Ian picks a topic he recently shared in a webinar for Marketing Profs - “The ART of Content Marketing” - where he shares the role content marketing plays in creating Awareness, Revenue, and Trust.  The main points Ian makes this week: Marketing should focus on creating ART, not just content. Content marketing targets the 'dark funnel' of potential buyers. Building brand trust is crucial for long-term marketing success. Content should be useful and address the needs of the audience. Content should be launched and marketed like a product. Regular audits of content strategy are necessary for effectiveness. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week: Content Marketing Friday Forum Webinar - The ART of Content Marketing A Deep Dive Into The Dark Funnel | 6sense B2B go-to-market benchmarks | Dreamdata Tuesday 2¢: Everybody is FOFU Fighting – Ian Truscott The Greatest Sales Deck I've Ever Seen | by Andy Raskin | Mission.org | Medium Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Stienski & Mass Media - We'll be right back You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon, and Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did someone say McDonald's is bringing back snack wraps? In other news, who knew that artificial intelligence would force brands and publishers toward an indie-creator model? If Google AI is undermining journalism, perhaps the way out is through the individual human creator. In another AI scandal, Builder.ai collapses, even with a large sum of money invested by Microsoft. And Netflix adds advertising to its IP. Good decision? Winners and losers include Ohio Bike Week and ELF/Hailey Bieber. Rants and raves include WaPo's new mission statement and the new NYTimes lawsuit against ChatGPT. ----- This week's links: Google AI Mode Undermining Journalism Builder.ai Collapses Netflix Adds Ad Tech Chain Restaurants Go Nostalgia ELF Buys Rhode WaPo's New Mission Statement ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a fancy cocktail with a fancy name, Ian and Robert discuss the importance of being distinct yet remaining relevant, the challenges of standing out in a crowded market, and the concept of 'uncommon value' as a competitive advantage. The critical concept of being distinct. Avoiding confusion about your place in the category. The impact of AI and the importance of brand recall. Creating “uncommon value” to differentiate. How this idea impacts your storytelling.  Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's article - Old Differentiation Rules Are Broken—Now What? Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify.This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AI is again in the headlines this week with Anthropic announcing that its AI will do anything to survive...even bust you for cheating on your wife. AI layoffs are starting to hit home. It's almost to the point that people are being laid off "by" AI itself. Joe and Robert uncover the truth. Rand Fishkin discusses 10 ways to understand no-click search...and it's mostly stuff we can actually do. And long live print, as Microsoft launches a new print publication. Winners and losers include LinkedIn commenting and Duolingo. Rants and raves include the new Bitcoin treasury fad and AI Agent pitch decks. ----- This week's links: Anthropic AI Resorts to Blackmail AI Layoffs Are Here The End of Website Traffic Print is Dead. Long Live Print. Duolingo CEO Retraces AI Announcement Businesses Go On Bitcoin Buying Spree The AI Agent Pitch Deck ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Ian laments a missed opportunity for the podcast's name as Robert shares tips on using AI for research and introduces him to the term epistemology as they discuss Robert's recent post for The Content Marketing Institute - Gen AI Isn't Marketing's Best Intern — It's Something More Topics in the bar today: Generative AI can enhance the creative process rather than just speed it up. The output of AI is less important than the thought process it encourages. AI is trained to agree, so we must prompt it to challenge our ideas. Epistemology helps us understand why we believe what we believe. Critical thinking is essential when using AI in creative processes. Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's article - Gen AI Isn't Marketing's Best Intern — It's Something More Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Google's big marketing event was an explosion of AI - a new home screen, more agents, AI video and even smart bidding. Why? Google's main revenue stream (search ads) is in big trouble.  Is Google going the way of the yellow pages? The boys ponder. And Apple is in trouble too. OpenAI buys IO, run by the designer behind the iPhone. It seems that OpenAI is going into the hardware business, with their sights directly on Apple. In other news, a major newspaper releases the books of the year without real books and Netflix steps in to syndicate Sesame Street. Winners and losers include a furniture store and Peloton. Rants and raves include AI use by writers and the idea of growth marketing. ----- This week's links: Google Marketing Live Major Newspaper Creates Fake Books Netflix to Syndicate Sesame Street OpenAI Buys IO Peloton Dumps CMO AI Writing and Author Tribes ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, following a discussion about alcohol measures in Scotland, Ian asks Robert about lessons from his successful podcast and if he'd start This Old Marketing today. Some of the things they discussed: Building an audience before launching a podcast  Video offers better discoverability than audio alone The intimacy of audio creates a strong connection with listeners Marketing a podcast requires effort beyond just creating content Discoverability is essential for growing a podcast audience Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys have finally jumped the shark with this episode. But first, Mark Zuckerberg declares war on the advertising industry. Meta's AI Do-It-Yourself tool will either win big or be fly by night. There is no middle ground. The BBC will push its mission and content into TikTok and Instagram. But is it too late to fight disinformation? Max becomes HBO Max (again). It will be just HBO in 15 to 18 months. Marketing winners are Nutter Butter and Warner Brothers. Rants and commentary include AEO and Sperm Racing (yep...you saw that right). ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg's War on Advertising BBC Boss Goes for Truth Max Rebrands Again Nutter Butter Explodes Warner Brothers and Leveraging IP Weird Sperm Racing AEO Dumb or Crazy Smart ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a classic tipple, Ian and Robert step into the minefield of controversial content. How edgy and different should we be? Based on a recent article Robert published on the Content Marketing Institute's blog - Surprise! Your Most Controversial Content Might Be Your Weakest” The main points from the bar this week: People are becoming numb to controversial content Applying the MAYA principle to content strategy Brands must believe in the positions they take Brands need to earn their place in the conversations Content strategy should include both familiar and surprising elements Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Thompson Bros at Dornoch Distillery Surprise! Your Most Controversial Content Might Be Your Weakest The Four-Letter Code to Selling Just About Anything - Derick Thompson  Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Buckle up! AI is driving now. Zuckerberg at Meta AI doubles down on their cure for loneliness and more friends, but have taken out any sort of safety precautions. We need to be worried. Very worried. Trump wants to tariff the movie business. Tell me exactly how that would work please? And Virginia signs a social media scrolling reduction that won't reduce scrolling. Winners and losers include LEGO and Warren Buffett. Rants and raves include Disney's new park and the White House social media effort. ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg and Meta AI Trump Tariffs and Hollywood Virginia Law on Social Media Warren Buffett Retires LEGO and F1 Racing Trump Social Media Strategy Disney's New Park ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week Ian and Robert discuss a prediction from Gartner that we will need to put 70% of our marketing budget into offline to reach an audience who will be digital detoxing.  The main points from the bar this week: Digital detoxing could be a thing, especially as trust and authenticity are reduced This will have an impact on marketing strategies and the budget Print media is gaining value as an alternative messaging channel The rise of gated communities that marketers will need to earn their way into  Identity-based content consumption and personalization Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week The Gartner Top Marketing Predictions for 2025 (webinar) Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Seventh Bear Ian's Marketing Profs Webinar Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Special episode breaking down the state of content creators, content entrepreneurs and how marketers fit in. Including: The Rise of Creators in 2025 Renting vs. Owning The TikTok Effect Community as Currency Revenue Mix How to Get Rich as a Creator Here's a link to the complete study. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

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Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Ian and Robert discuss an idea Robert shared in his Content Marketing Institute column about slowing down marketing.  The main points from the bar this week: The idea of vibe marketing  Speed in marketing often correlates with quantity, not quality Slowing down marketing advocates for thoughtful and strategic approaches. Checkboxes and agile marketing methodologies can lead to a loss of creativity Marketing should prioritize thoughtful processes over rapid execution The integration of AI should enhance creativity, not replace it Successful marketing often comes from iterative processes, not just quick wins Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Slow-Motion Marketing is the Antidote to Vibe Marketing Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As Tariffs hang over the US Advertising industry, more companies start to look internal. That means internal communications, internal influencers, owned media and more. Could Trump's Tariffs be a boon for content marketers? Google loses their online advertising monopoly case. The boys put on their prediction hats to let you know what will happen. A judge has blocked the termination of VOA. But is it too late? Joe thinks it is. And Ryan Coogler's movie deal gives marketers and creators a lot to think about. Winners and losers include the American people and Diary of a CEO podcast. Rants and raves include Google's cookies and the uber wealthy. This week's links: Google Loses Case Tariffs Crush Ad Market Judge Blocks VOA Halt Coogler's Movie Deal America Gives Up on Fact Checking DOAC Turns Down Big Deals America's Riches Households Have Banner Year Google Keeps Cookies ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Robert feels that the dude does not abide, inspiring his cocktail choice, and he and Ian discuss the AI-dominated Google search experience and how this impacts our content marketing. The main points from the bar this week: AI is changing the way search engines operate, impacting content creators Search results are cluttered with AI-generated content and ads Content creators are frustrated with the decline in organic search traffic The future of search may involve more AI integration and fewer traditional interfaces Content must be structured for both AI and human consumption. Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's Breakfast Club inspired cartoon about tariffs on Bluesky  Article on Bloomberg - Google AI Search Shift Leaves Website Makers Feeling ‘Betrayed' Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys are back with news that OpenAI (led by Sam Altman) is considering a social media platform that may compete with Elon's Twitter/X. Let's face it...we know what this is really about. Joe and Robert bring it home for you. META's big lawsuit with the FTC gets started. Did Zuckerberg grease the skids enough to get this one through? Creator Economy jobs (aka content marketing) are up, up, up. Why is that? And the top Gen AI use cases don't involve marketing. Marketing winners and losers include databases and Twinkies. Rants and raves include Superman and faith-based billboards. This week's links: META's FTC Case Starts OpenAI to Launch Social Platform? Creator Economy Jobs on the Up Top Gen AI Use Cases Twinkies Goes 420 The Summer of Superman ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Robert reaches for a classic cocktail that is appropriate for this week's topic as he and Ian discuss the marketing classics as an antidote to today's apparent obsession with reinventing marketing.     The main points from the bar this week: The classic principles of marketing are still relevant today Siloed marketing teams can lead to conflicting goals and messages Attribution in marketing is often misrepresented; contribution is key The best practices in marketing are already established; we just need to apply them better Measurement unification across marketing teams  Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Our friend Tim Walters Seventh Bear Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Has AI finally killed search? Does Google even matter anymore? Must we now build our content on rented land? The boys go through each of these questions and talk about if "do not build your house on rented land" is still a thing. In other news, the TikTok deal is delayed (again). In marketing winners and losers, Joe takes on the Catholic church while Robert gushes over Duolingo. Rants and raves includes London's takedown of Leon, while the Shopify CEO tells employees to do an AI check. This week's links: Trump Delays TikTok (again) Big Search Shift (Google) Push to Rented Land? Duolingo for the Win Catholic Church Needs a Change Shopify CEO Stokes AI Flames London Taking Down Telsa with Ads ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Robert has a fabulous cocktail for the Californian sunshine, and him and Ian discuss a LinkedIn post by author, keynote speaker, and business transformation consultant Tom Goodwin that starts with the line “The less you know about something, the better the AI solution seems to be” and they dive into the topic of AI skills and the absurd idea of AI business transformation goals. They discuss: Generative AI requires subject matter expertise to be effective. Hiring for AI skills  Using AI as a research assistant not as a replacement for knowledge The role of creativity versus efficiency in AI applications. What does AI business transformation mean? The mistakes AI can make Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week The LinkedIn post where Tom Goodwin discusses this topic Post by Christopher Penn referring to people using AI in slides Insights on Seventh Bear, including their video podcast thingy Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Possibly our dumbest episode yet. Joe and Robert go deep into the dumbery to try to make sense of an incredibly weird (and dumb) week. TikTok is for sale. No it's not. Maybe it is. Will we know this week? Elon Musk merges his two companies into one, creating the dumbest valuation in the history of corporate mergers. And META's AI steals a bunch of copyrighted books. Heck, they've probably already stolen this podcast. Marketing losers include vibe marketing and Hooters. Raves and commentary include Gartner and Chris Ross and how the tariffs will affect marketing spending. This week's links: Amazon Interested in TikTok TikTok Looming Deadline Elon's Merger Is Dumb META Steals Copyrighted Books Ghibli Effect Takes Over ChatGPT Hooters Bankruptcy Chris Ross from Gartner ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving a fabulous weekend cocktail while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, ignoring the advice of Mark Twain to never discuss politics or religion in polite company, the chaps tackle brands navigating the politicization of everything.  They discuss: Brands must navigate the politicization of just about eveything Aligning with political figures can risk brand identity Examples of brands that have tripped over this Employees should have guidelines for personal social media  Brands need to define and stick to an authentic stance Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Tuesday 2¢ – Find Your Miriam - the story of Miriam Webb, influencer fired by Chick-fil-A Robert's regular Rose Colored Glasses column on the Content Marketing Institute blog This Old Marketing podcast Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A very special episode on what makes a successful content marketer or content creator. Robert and Joe talk about what works today to successfully build and monetize an audience with these five keys. 1. For marketers, setting a clear goal up front - sales, savings or sunshine and then find a measurement tool that aligns with current corporate measurement. From the creator side, what's my goal? You exit at the beginning. 2. What's the show for your particular audience AND is it consistent AND is it (or will it be) indispensable? To the point - do I have a tilt that is unique, interesting AND attracts financial support? 3. Build audience like crazy at the start and try not to sell anything...or sell just one thing. Put 1/3 time into the content and two-thirds into promotion. 4. Considering everything, we'd lean toward a video podcast series, which takes advantage of all the social video and the cost effectiveness of podcasts. Then we'd have some kind of email deliverable, at least to get the data...but ultimately a newsletter. 5. Create THE LIST of good and bad things you do/want to do. Develop a stopping list. ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving a wonderful weekend cocktail while our host Ian Truscott picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week in The Rose and Rockstar, over a cachaça cocktail, Ian and Robert discuss the future (or not) of corporate websites.   They discuss: What is cachaça? How corporate websites need to evolve, not die How technology and SEO have driven the web experience A future with AI creating sites on the fly Brand control over content presentation is diminishing A nostalgic view of past web experiences like Flash Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Cachaça - Wikipedia Maybe we should write an obituary for the website - Substack article by Carrie Liken This Old Marketing podcast Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

New data suggests that advertising growth is slowing. Overall marketing is soon to follow. Will the current political environment drive us into a marketing recession? Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei proclaims that AI will take over all coding in the next year. Robert takes offense and the boys talk about the reasons these types of proclamations are made. And is AI slop a brute force attack on the major platforms? The point? AI content is taking over YouTube, TikTok and Facebook and the platforms simply don't care. Marketing losers are Unilever and the NFL. Rants are the AI-ification of press and the killing of Voice of America. This week's links: Ad Growth Slows Anthropic CEO Predicts AI Coding Takeover AI Slop Is Non-Stop Unilever's Big Mistake Adobe and AI Agents The Death of Voice of America ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Joe Pulizzi is an absolute delight (what a treat , what a dream) and the founder of multiple startups including content creator education site, The Tilt,  Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX), and is the bestselling author of seven books including Content Inc. and Epic Content Marketing, which was named a “Must-Read Business Book” by Fortune Magazine.Joe is best known for his work in content marketing, first using the term in 2001, then launching Content Marketing Institute and the Content Marketing World event. In 2014, he received the "Lifetime Achievement Award" by the Content Council. He successfully exited CMI in 2016 and consequently wrote an award-winning mystery novel, The Will to Die.He has two weekly podcasts, the motivational Content Inc. podcast and the award-winning content news and analysis show This Old Marketing with Robert Rose.His foundation, The Orange Effect, delivers speech therapy and technology services to over 400 children in 39 states.Joe and his family live in Cleveland, Ohio. 

The digital content space is more crowded than ever, and simply creating content is no longer enough—it needs to create impact. With changing algorithms, the rise of AI, and evolving consumer behavior, brands need to rethink their content approach.In this episode, I sit down with Robert Rose, Chief Strategy Advisor at the Content Marketing Institute, to discuss what's working (and what's not) in content marketing today. Robert has helped brands like NASA, Hilton, and Salesforce refine their content strategies, and now he's sharing the insights you need to stand out.From shifting away from content “containers” to leveraging AI in a smart way, we cover everything businesses need to build a strategy that drives results. If your content isn't performing the way you want, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.In this episode, you'll learn:Why businesses need to rethink their content strategy: Most brands still create content based on format first, rather than leading with a strong story.How AI is reshaping content creation and SEO: AI isn't just about speed—it's about creating smarter, more effective content that resonates with your audience.The role of original research in establishing authority: Data-backed content is a powerful tool for thought leadership and long-term SEO value.Why organic reach is declining and how to adapt: The days of easy traffic from Google and social media are fading—discover where to shift your focus.How to repurpose content for maximum impact: A single great idea can (and should) fuel multiple pieces of content across platforms.Want to create content that stands out? Subscribe to Rocky Mountain Marketing and visit katiebrinkley.com for expert insights and free tools to level up your content strategy today!Checkout Podmatch today!joinpodmatch.com/KatieVisit Robert Rose's social media pages:Website: https://seventhbear.com/This Old Marketing Podcast: https://www.thisoldmarketing.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robrose/Learn more about Katie and Next Step Social Communications:Speaking: https://katiebrinkley.com/Website: https://www.nextstepsocialcommunications.comLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiebrinkleyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/@rockymountainmarketingInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkatiebrinkley/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/socialprofitlab#ContentMarketing #MarketingStrategy #DigitalMarketing #SEOTrends #ContentCreation #AIMarketing #SocialMediaGrowth #MarketingTips #ThoughtLeadership #MarketingSuccess #OnlineVisibility #LeadGeneration #MarketingForBusiness #ContentMarketingTrends #MarketingInnovation #RobertRose #KatieBrinkley Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author, Robert Rose behind the bar serving a wonderful weekend cocktail while our host Ian Truscott picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a luxurious cocktail, Ian and Robert discuss thought leadership in the AI age and the importance of charisma and community. They discuss: The evolution of thought leadership as AI makes research a commodity Storytelling and the charisma of the storyteller are becoming more important than the content The future of thought leadership relies on relationships and community, not just having the information The importance this places on marketing investments to cut through Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Black velvet recipe - BBC Food Thought Leadership in the AI Age Belongs to Those Who Connect, Not Control This Old Marketing Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys are back and the buys are heating up. Food-delivery startup Wonder purchased Tastemade, now boasting content creation to meal preparation to delivery all in one. Is more on the way? We think so. Spotify paid $5 billion dollars to indie creators last year. Is it better to go outside the labels than sign with a big agency? And Unilever ups their social media budget to 30 to 50 percent of total marketing budget...all for targeted local influencers. But did they forget about employees? Marketing winners and losers include Southwest Airlines and CMO tenure. Rants and raves include Substack and shadow AI. This week's links: Spotify Pays the Indies Are Big Music Labels Valuable? Wonder Acquires Tastemade Unilever Doubles Down on Influencers CMO Tenure Study Shadow AI Brands Are Launching Substacks ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Today's guest is Robert Rose, Senior Director of North America Customer Support at Adobe. Robert joins our conversation today to discuss the evolution of AI in customer interactions and the challenges organizations face when scaling these solutions across diverse customer bases. He shares insights on how AI-driven bots have progressed from basic transactional tools to more sophisticated systems capable of detecting customer emotions and improving responses over time. If you've enjoyed or benefited from some of the insights of this episode, consider leaving us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts, and let us know what you learned, found helpful, or liked most about this show!

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author, Robert Rose behind the bar serving a wonderful weekend cocktail while our host Ian Truscott picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Ian and Robert discuss creating communities as an extension of gating content.  Once they got past the weather and politics, the key points in the discussion were: The Shift to Gated Communities Building and Marketing Exclusive Communities Engagement and Value in Community Building Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Dave Gerhardt's community - ExitFive Robert's This Old Marketing Podcast Robert's agency - Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys are back with commentary on the death of media. It's a sad case on both political spectrum. And the opportunity in the future belongs to non-media brands. Let's see what happens. In other news, more and more creators are going full AI. How close is it to real, or does that even matter? Marketing winners and losers include Disney and Trump's Gold card. Rants and raves include travel within the US and Meta testing out agents in advertising. This week's links: The Media's Credibility Has Bottomed Creators Are Now Going Full AI Disney Starts Killing Off News Media Trump's Gold Card Meta Testing AI Agents for Business Ads ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gez Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author, Robert Rose behind the bar serving a wonderful weekend cocktail while our host Ian Truscott picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Ian challenges Robert on his claim in the Content Marketing Institute newsletter that saying “no” is a marketer's superpower. It sounds easy, but in reality, it can make you very uncomfortable - so how do you really say no, and why is it important you do? Key points: In marketing, we often focus on what to start, not what to stop It's important to permit ourselves to say no, to focus better, and be productive Saying no can help us excel rather than be average Examples of Robert's clients doing this Advice for how to set the stage for saying “no” Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's note in The CMI Weekly Newsletter Robert's This Old Marketing Podcast Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys kick off the show with Dow Jones news and their AI content marketplace of 5,000 publishers. The real news? Vertical content opportunities using proprietary LLMs may ultimately steal the show for B2B content creators. Differentiation is the key coming from B2B speakers at a recent marketing event. The move from company creators to individuals is in full force. And is Substack the new Instagram for smaller creators? Winners and losers include bars in Key West, Levi's and UTC. Rants and raves include MSNBC's big shift, Jeff Bezos, X and Forrester. This week's links: Dow Jones and Content Marketplace B2BMX Speaker Highlights Is Substack the New Instagram? Levi's and Nostalgia UTC Expands Marketing Division Jeff Bezos New WaPo Moves How to Use X Advertising By Forrester ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Our sixth visit to the officially renamed virtual bar - The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose.  Over one of his fabulous cocktails this week, our host, Ian Truscott, asks the big B2B question - to gate or not to gate? They discuss: The classic tension between marketing and sales How to create urgency and scarcity to improve engagement  Creating communities can serve as a new form of gating Sneaky gating tactics that may backfire Is the value of content diminished by gating? Creative gating strategies that B2B marketers should adopt Building a content business Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert on CMI Blog: Gating Content: Where Do You Stand in the Great Debate? This Old Marketing Podcast: Super Bowl Ad Winners & Highest Ratings in History (467) Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Reddit announced quarterly results and the stock got hammered. Is Google's changing algorithm to blame? And, if it is, could Google be primed to acquire the 9th largest website on the planet? In other news, episodic video programs and shows are getting more opportunities for syndication. But with so many shows out there, should brands look at partnering with a creator before creating their own content? Winners and losers include Allstate and Kai Cenat. Rants and raves include the Associated Press and Major League Baseball. This week's links: Reddit's Growth Problems Create a Series Is the New Mandate AI and Allstate Kai Cenat to Launch Streaming University MLB Trying Out Robo Umpires The AP and Trump ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Our fifth visit to the officially renamed virtual bar - The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author, Robert Rose.  Over one of his fabulous cocktails this week, our host, Ian Truscott, asks the big question - is marketing getting harder? They discuss: The marketing as a large shallow ocean - it's getting wider, not deeper Understanding marketing requires both art and science Measurement in marketing has always been challenging The influx of opinions complicates marketing strategies Efficiency in marketing does not always equate to effectiveness Correlation does not imply causation in marketing results Notes from marketing history - we need to pay attention to the classics Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week The Marketing Mix - and the 4 P's popularised by Phillip Kotler  Reports on Nike's marketing turnaround - for example this post on LinkedIn: How Consultants Almost Destroyed Nike's Brand - by Erik Mashkilleyson Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our Super Bowl predictions were dead on, as Joe predicted an Eagles win and Robert predicted a Kendrick Lamar controversy. But more importantly, who were the advertising winners and losers? And...is the Super Bowl the last remaining moment where everyone comes together to watch television at the same time? In other news, BuzzFeed launches a social media network called BF Island. We already predict extinction. And do paywalls work? They do...sort of. Marketing winners include partnerships and ChatGPT. Rants and raves include the end of book blurbs and Welch's content marketing. ----- This week's news links: Big Ratings Win for Super Bowl Super Bowl Ad Winners BuzzFeed Launches Social Media App The Paywall Dilemma OpenAI's Super Bowl Ad Welches Content Marketing The End of Blurbs ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

In our fourth visit to the officially renamed virtual bar - The Rose and Rockstar - we continue to dive into the book writing process with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear and author of several books, Robert Rose, over one of his fabulous cocktails, as our host, Ian Truscott, continues to struggle to complete his first book. They discuss: Cocktail of the week - Grapefruit Negroni The writing process and editing Self-publishing vs. traditional publishing Setting writing goals and deadlines Being disciplined in writing and editing As always, we welcome your feedback; please let us know if you like the new format and if you would like Ian to ask Robert a question in the safe environment of the bar - get in touch on the links below.  Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Books by Robert Alison Jones, writing coach and courses Joe Pulizzi's Title Publishing Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Super Bowl week and the boys make their predictions. Speaking of the Super Bowl, the boys talk about the ads, the value, and what a Super Bowl ad truly costs. And...will there be any winners? Robert does a comparison between OpenAI's deep research and the corresponding Google product. Which one is better and what should marketers do? Winners and losers include Nielsen and Hertz communications. Rants and raves include AMO and Trump Coin. ----- This week's news links: Super Bowl Winners Deep Research Next Big OpenAI Move Influencer Marketing Rises Cable News as We Know It Nielsen Ends Panels Trump Coin Rug Pull ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

In our third visit to the officially renamed virtual bar - The Rose and Rockstar - this week, Robert Rose, the Chief Troublemaker at the newly launched Seventh Bear, shares one of his fabulous cocktails and as our host, Ian Truscott, struggles to complete his first book, he picks Robert's brains on his process as an author of a series of marketing books.  They discuss: Cocktail of the week: The Mayan Michelada Robert's writing process Answering big questions and having a hypothesis The importance of feedback, editing, and refining  Commitment and discipline in writing Connecting with the audience The role of editors As always, we welcome your feedback; please let us know if you like the new format and if you would like Ian to ask Robert a question in the safe environment of the bar - get in touch on the links below.  Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Books by Robert Alison Jones, writing coach and courses Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Man you cappin'. This week, DeepSeek shocks the AI industry (and the world) with its cheaper more efficient model. What comes next for the industry? The buyers line up for TikTok, but is the US Government playing favorites? And Substack is paying cash for TikTok creators to make the switch. Marketing winners include Timothee Chalamet and the TGL golf league. Rants and raves include Chris Sacca (on the Tim Ferriss pod), creating moments, and the return of Nike. ----- This week's news links: The Real DeepSeek Why Is Everyone Freaking Out Over DeepSeek? Trump, TikTok and Socialism White House In Talks with Oracle Substack Paying $20 Million The TGL Golf League Chalamet Goes Gorilla Chris Sacca on Tim Ferriss Nike's Destruction ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys return with a cornucopia of news.  TikTok returns (or did it?). We discuss what is really going on with the Chinese-owned app, whether a US company will buy them, and which one actually will. In other news, Instagram is throwing money at creators (but needs a real model), while META goes from moderated news to community news (but not for ads). In winners and losers, Edelman is out with their Trust Barometer, and Andrew Ross Sorkin has tomorrow's media model. In rants and raves, Anthropic's CEO predicts the future and the only good news coverage of the LA fires was local. ----- This week's news links: The TikTok Ban Update China Comments on TikTok Ownership RedNote Instagram Throws Money Meta Announces Community Notes Meta's Community Notes Don't Include Ads Edelman Trust Barometer Prof G with Andrew Ross Sorkin Inside Anthropic's AI Race ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys go through six different ways that content marketing professionals can be "content marketing meh" in 2025. They include: Create content on more than three platforms Create content in a highly competitive area Lean heavily into AI tools to create content Put all your influence efforts into finding external influencers and none on building internal influence Focus on making sure your tech stack is bulletproof and pour more time and effort into making things automated Brand Schmand you should really focus on lead gen…. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

META's plan to unleash AI Bots onto their social media sites is just a first step into the majority of the content we engage with being synthetic. The boys have more thoughts on this. How involved will Elon be with TikTok's future? More works are headed to the public domain, including Popeye and TinTin. Is there an opportunity for brands here? Finally, the boys discuss the fastest growing marketing roles. Winners and losers include AI-free and NFL red zone. Rants and raves include the Michael Lewis podcast and Pornhub. ----- This week's links: TikTok's CEO and Elon Talk Popeye and TinTin to Public Domain Meta's Plan to Unleash AI Bots Fastest Growing Marketing Roles Greg Isenberg's AI Predictions NFL Red Zone and Commercials Against the Rules Podcast Pornhub Blocked in South ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

A very special This Old Marketing Predictions' episode. Not only do we cover our 2025 predictions of: Where will Bluesky Be? The Future of X X Buys Truth Social GENAI Stumbles Four (4) Trillion Dollars Companies in 2025 The 2025 Disease We All Saw Coming TikTok Will Not Be Banned The Donald Trump Presidency The Failure of Podcasts But we review our 2024 predictions as well as our NFL season-review predictions. How did we score? Listen to find out. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.