Podcast appearances and mentions of Robert Rose

It's here...the 500th episode of This Old Marketing! In this very special show, Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose take a walk down memory lane, sharing stories, clips, and predictions from across the past twelve years of the podcast. Along the way, they're joined by some surprise guests and special videos from friends of the show. Highlights from the Episode The Beginning (Episode 1 – November 20, 2013): Joe and Robert recall the car ride that sparked the idea and how they launched the first episode in less than two weeks. Hear the original introduction, plus proof that football talk has always been part of the show's DNA. Episode 100 (October 12, 2015): Reflections on content marketing trends a decade ago, from the rise of content brands to the great terminology debate. Joe predicts the rise of the walled gardens, Robert envisions marketing's shift toward experiences, and both make some bold (and hilarious) calls about Apple, Disney, and Twitter. Episode 200 (September 11, 2017): A nostalgic milestone filled with clips, insights on audience building, and predictions around Facebook's billion-dollar content push. Highlights include Robert's reflections on the value of audience and the duo's “can't believe we made it this far” moment. Episode 211 (December 11, 2017): The original “finale” - Joe and Robert answer listener questions, quiz each other, and close out what they thought was the end of the journey. Episode 212 (July 15, 2019): The “Genesis Planet” comeback episode after 577 days away. Joe and Robert return in full stride, proving the magic never left. Episode 300 (December 3, 2021): The first video podcast, featuring a special musical intro from Gary Busey. Predictions fly about Web 3.0, tokenization, the metaverse, and the future of “rented land.” Plus, cocktails, personal reflections, and football banter. Episode 400 (November 3, 2023): “AI & the Melting of Truth” marks another milestone with big conversations around AI, search, and Disney's media moves. A clip on Google's AI results shows just how much the world has shifted. Special Surprises A video greeting from filmmaker Kevin Smith A montage of messages from listeners and friends of the show. Thank you to A. Lee Judge, Bert Van Loon, Brian Piper, Cathy & Bridget McPhillips, Fernando Labastida, JK Kalinowski, Katie Brinkley, Maliha Khan, Paul Roetzer and Ruth Carter. A heartfelt video from author and speaker Andrew Davis Rants & Raves Yes, even in this celebratory episode, Joe and Robert can't resist a few choice rants and raves. (You'll just have to listen in!) Thank you for being part of 500 weeks of This Old Marketing. We couldn't have done it without you. Here's to the next chapter! ------- This week's sponsor: Did you know that most businesses only use 20% of their data? That's like reading a book with most of the pages torn out. Point is, you miss a lot. Unless you use HubSpot. Their customer platform gives you access to the data you need to grow your business. The insights trapped in emails, call logs, and transcripts.  All that unstructured data that makes all the difference. Because when you know more, you grow more. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Get all the show notes: https://www.thisoldmarketing.com/ Get Joe's new book, Burn the Playbook, at http://www.joepulizzi.com/books/burn-the-playbook/ Subscribe to Joe's Newsletter at https://www.joepulizzi.com/signup/. Get Robert Rose's new book, Valuable Friction, at https://robertrose.net/valuable-friction/  Subscribe to Robert's Newsletter at https://seventhbearlens.substack.com/ ------- This Old Marketing is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network: https://www.hubspot.com/podcastnetwork  

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a classic cocktail, Ian congratulates Robert on 500 episodes of his podcast “This Old Marketing” that he hosts with his chum Joe Pulizzi.  They discuss what he's learned, some of the enduring themes that have continued to resonate since they started the podcast in 2013, and some of the hot trends that may not have stuck.  Finally, they catch up on Robert's experience at Content Marketing World.   If you have a question for the bar or an opinion on this week's discussion, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn Robert Rose on LinkedIn Mentioned this week This Old Marketing - Robert and Joe's podcast Ian's shiny new website: iantruscott.com Ian's Tuesday rant All the Gear, No Idea Content Marketing World Robert's newsletter: Lens Robert's websites: robertrose.net and seventhbear.com Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a classic cocktail, having just published his fifth book and maintained his prolific writing for Content Marketing Institute and his newsletter, Ian asks Robert about his writing habit.   Some key points from the discussion: Writing is a process of storytelling, not just output Using AI to assist in research and idea generation Consider writing shorter books  Using video content to complement written articles  Attracting subscribers to your newsletter Timeliness and relevance If you have a question for the bar or an opinion on this week's discussion, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn Robert Rose on LinkedIn Mentioned this week Robert's Weekly Articles on Content Marketing Institute, the Lens Newsletter, his website, and his firm Seventh Bear Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The episode explores how marketers can shift their mindset from focusing on content containers to prioritizing storytelling and strategic content creation. Lee Judge and Robert Rose discuss the evolving role of content marketing in the age of AI, the pitfalls of over-measuring, and the importance of valuable friction in marketing processes. Shifting from container-first to story-first content creationThe myth and misuse of marketing measurementAI's impact on content marketing and the resurgence of human-created contentChallenges CMOs face with attribution and proving valueValuable friction and the importance of slowing down to improve content qualityTimecodes00:00 - Get Out of "Container First" Mentality: Start with Story01:00 - Introducing Robert Rose & the Value of Thought Leadership03:08 - Measurement Myths: Marketers Should Measure Less, Do More05:34 - Risk vs. Numbers: Incremental vs. Bold Marketing Moves09:03 - The Cracker Barrel Logo Fiasco & The Value of Attention11:27 - Attention vs. Long-Term Brand Value in Marketing15:35 - CMOs & the Attribution Challenge: Budget, Brand, & Measurement19:12 - Corporate Measurement Culture: Agreement vs. Accuracy24:05 - AI's Impact: Human Content Marketing Renaissance?27:56 - Why Content Marketing Research Still Focuses on Text32:26 - Repurposing Content: Story-First Approach Over Containers34:50 - Valuable Friction: Slowing Down for Better Content Creation40:23 - Where to Find Robert's Book & Closing Remarks Main TakeawaysStart with the story, not the container—content should drive the format, not the other way around.Measurement is often flawed and overemphasized; agreement on what success looks like is more important than accuracy.AI can enhance creativity but should be used to deepen, not replace, human insight and storytelling.Subscribe, share the episode, and visit valuablefriction.com to learn more about Robert Rose's new book.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform.This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a classic cocktail, Ian and Robert discuss Reddit, how it is informing search results, generative AI, and how we should engage with it to support our B2B content marketing. Some key points from the discussion: The culture of Reddit Building credibility on Reddit takes time and effort Using Reddit for audience research. Niche markets and topics are well served by Reddit  Engaging on Reddit as a different channel from other social platforms Experimentation is key, like any social media If you have a question for the bar or an opinion on this week's discussion, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn Robert Rose on LinkedIn Mentioned this week Why Reddit Marketing Should Be Your Next Big Business Move Robert's Lens Newsletter Robert's new relaunched website: Robertrose.net Robert's firm - Seventh Bear Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify.This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a refreshing cocktail, Ian and Robert discuss an idea Robert shared about losing creativity in B2B marketing on Goldenhour, a LinkedIn Live event with Anthony Kennada, founder of Audience Plus and three-time CMO. Some key points from the discussion: Data and processes are overshadowing creativity in marketing. Many marketers are leaving the profession due to a lack of creativity. AI is not solving the problem. Precision in marketing can lead to mediocrity. Marketers are focusing on efficiency rather than emotional connection. If you have a question for the bar or an opinion on this week's discussion, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn Robert Rose on LinkedIn Mentioned this week LinkedIn live event - Goldenhour: The Paradox of Content Marketing in the AI Age: Humanity Over Speed Robert's Lens Newsletter Valuable Friction - Robert Rose Robert's new relaunched website: Robertrose.net Robert's firm - Seventh Bear Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I just got back from the 4th Annual Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) and my notebook is full. In this episode, I share the biggest lessons that every creator needs to hear: Why replies matter more than followers or likes How to craft a clear, powerful premise that makes your audience's eyes light up The surprising ways your community can create content with you Why breaking patterns and pushing boundaries keeps you unforgettable The trap of playing small—and how to step fully into your power Why slowing down may be the smartest move in an AI-driven world How trust platforms are beating search engines at their own game These insights hit me hard, and I think they'll do the same for you. Listen in, take notes, and let's rethink how we build as creators. -------- For more inspiration and a step-by-step guide to building freedom on your own terms, grab Joe's new book Burn the Playbook (plus a 21-day challenge) at https://www.joepulizzi.com/books/burn-the-playbook/. Resources & Links: My free guide: [Mastering Goal Setting] My new book: [Burn the Playbook] Let's connect: [LinkedIn]  Subscribe to the Podcast [Content Inc.]

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a refreshing cocktail, Ian and Robert discuss an idea Robert shared on the CMI blog, that real beats perfect in content marketing.  Some key points from the discussion: AI is dominating marketing conversations, overshadowing fundamentals. Brands are chasing automation at the expense of relationships. The classic marketing equation of reach and frequency still applies. Marketing should focus on building trust and engagement. High-quality content minimizes the need for frequent messaging. Provocative content can detract from brand integrity. If you have a question for the bar, or maybe an opinion on what was shared this week, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week CMI Blog post: Move Over "Authentic AI," Real Beats Perfect in Content and Marketing Robert's LinkedIn Post - Forgetting the fundamentals of marketing: AI, trust, and relationships Valuable Friction - Robert Rose Robert's new relaunched website: Robertrose.net Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a refreshing cocktail, Ian and Robert discuss Robert's new book, being launched this week: Valuable Friction, an idea that they first discussed on this podcast back on episode 248. Some key points from the discussion: Speed has become a foundational value in business culture How relationships suffer due to our focus on speed and convenience AI may invite us to slow down rather than speed up Slowing down could differentiate you Creative friction can enhance our output and decision-making If you have a question for the bar, or maybe an opinion on what was shared this week, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Valuable Friction - Robert Rose Robert's new relaunched website: Robertrose.net Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are we entering a new golden age of content marketing? In this week's This Old Marketing, Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose dig into why the industry feels more alive than ever and what this resurgence means for brands and creators alike. The Big Stories: When Hollywood Hits the Break Room: A credit-card company launches a sitcom (Roomies) that blurs the line between branded content and binge-worthy entertainment. Read more → From Tackles to Talk Shows: The NFL's Broadcast Boot Camp trains players to pivot from pads to teleprompters. Is this a new playbook for employee-driven media? Read more → Redline, Red Flag: Creators push back on restrictive contracts, but many brands are saying “no edits allowed.” What does this mean for the creator–brand relationship? Read more → Marketing Winners of the Week: Taylor Swift (once again setting the standard for creator-driven marketing) MSNBC's bold rebrand Billy Joel (yes, he's still moving the needle) Rants & Raves: A surprising return to print media: why it may be smarter than you think A deeper dive into the true meaning of “rented land” in today's marketing mix Key Takeaway: Content marketing isn't just back. It's maturing into a stronger, more essential discipline. Brands and creators who double down on owned media, storytelling, and consistency will be the ones who thrive in this new golden age. ------- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Get all the show notes: https://www.thisoldmarketing.com/ Get Joe's new book, Burn the Playbook, at www.joepulizzi.com/books/burn-the-playbook/ Subscribe to Joe's Newsletter at https://www.joepulizzi.com/signup/. Get Robert Rose's new book, Valuable Friction, at https://robertrose.net/valuable-friction/  Subscribe to Robert's Newsletter at https://seventhbearlens.substack.com/ ------- This Old Marketing is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network: https://www.hubspot.com/podcastnetwork

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a refreshing cocktail, Ian and Robert quote Drucker and wonder if AI will solve our zombie process.  Key points from their discussion: AI is automating inefficient processes. Understanding the entire marketing process is crucial before implementing AI. Curiosity and asking 'why' are essential in the AI experimentation phase. Business users often prefer to delegate tasks rather than engage with complex systems. Experimentation with AI is important AI can add complexity and cost if not applied thoughtfully. If you have a question for the bar, or maybe an opinion on what was shared this week, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week AI Won't Fix Your Zombie Marketing Processes Robert's new relaunched website: Robertrose.net Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a refreshing cocktail, we discover more about Robert's latest content marketing strategy - The Mullet.  They discuss: The debate around what content we should share with the LLMs Robert's research into answer engine optimization Robert suggests we need to be business at the front with the structure for informing the robots, and then party at the back where the humans can access the good stuff. If you have a question for the bar, or maybe an opinion on what was shared this week, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week This Old Marketing - The Mullet Content Strategy [Special Episode] (490) What's Broken in GTM and How to Fix It ep22: David Meyer Robert's new relaunched website: Robertrose.net Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify.This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys are back (and better than ever) with a brand-new episode on what influencer marketing will look like soon (including AI). In this episode, they break down the new deal between ESPN and the NFL. Does this partnership signal new opportunities for brands and content marketing deals in the near future? YouTube announced that it will begin testing a new AI feature designed to estimate whether a user is a minor...regardless of the birthday listed on the account. Some creators fear it will hurt business, while others worry that large organizations and institutions will use the data in nefarious ways. Winners and losers include the future of influencer marketing, the Savannah Bananas, American Eagle, Sydney Sweeney, and Vogue. Rants and raves feature CMOs uncovering a new trend in influencer strategy—and Superman. ----- This week's links: ESPN to buy NFL Network How YouTube Age Verification Could Hurt the Creator Economy What MLB Can Learn from the Savannah Bananas? Mentions of Creator Economy on CMO Calls ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.    

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a Michelada, Ian asks Robert's advice about providing 90-day plans during a recruitment process, and Robert shares the relaunch of his website robertrose.net. They discuss:  Making assumptions before you can do proper discovery Whether it's reasonable to ask for this level of effort The benefit of the process to both the candidate and the hirer Boxing these requests into scenarios and limited projects Avoiding sounding generic If you have a question for the bar, or maybe an opinion on what was shared this week, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's new relaunched website: Robertrose.net Robert's podcast – This Old Marketing Ian's firm - Velocity B Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify.This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the last special solo episode for a while. Thankfully, Robert and Joe will be back next week to make nonsense about marketing and content news. But today's episode is something a little different. In 1937, Napoleon Hill wrote Think and Grow Rich. His ideas about belief, desire, and persistence changed lives—Joe's included. Joe's new book, Burn the Playbook, is his answer to what Think and Grow Rich would look like today. It's not just about financial wealth...it's about freedom. Mental freedom. Physical health. Time freedom. It's the book Joe wanted his kids to have…the book that they could share with their kids about living a life of purpose. This episode of This Old Marketing is about how to build a platform strong enough to carry the weight of your dreams. Six months ago, Joe was 20 pounds heavier. He felt foggy, sluggish, reactive. He was still productive, sure...but didn't feel sharp. He didn't feel like he was operating at his best. And he decided that wasn't okay anymore. Many of you know this, but Joe's family has a history of Alzheimer's as well. He always thought he was relegated to this fate and there was nothing he could do. Joe's since found there are many things he can do to build a better brain (if you will), so that he can live a better life and be around, in all forms, for his kids and their kids, in addition to living a life of freedom (which we'll discuss). So he made some changes. Not radical ones. Just simple, consistent ones. And Joe wants to share them with you—not as a health expert, but as a creator who realized that if your body and brain break down, your business doesn't stand a chance. Let's get into it.   ----- This week's links: Americans Check Phone 144 Times Per Day The Cost of Multitasking ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

On this episode of Great Practice, Great Life, Steve talks with attorney Ronald W. Chapman II, who shares his powerful journey from the battlefield to the courtroom. A former Marine Corps JAG officer, Ronald opens up about how his military service shaped not just his legal skill set but also his mindset. The idea of not using the law as a shield became a defining part of his growth as a leader. His transition from a highly structured military environment to the unpredictable world of private practice taught him that true impact comes from embracing purpose, taking ownership, and leading with vision. Ronald's journey didn't start in a courtroom—it began with a decision sparked by 9/11. While studying law, he felt the pull to serve. His Marine Corps recruiter advised him to finish law school and return as an officer, and that is what he did. That moment changed everything for Ronald. His legal career is rooted in precision, principle, and purpose. He began by investigating battlefield decisions in Afghanistan. Later, he defended healthcare professionals in high-stakes litigation. Leaving the military brought a new challenge: adjusting to civilian legal practice. No one prepares you for that transition, and Ronald had to find his own way. He joined his father's law firm and quickly became a key part of its growth and direction. His background in philosophy helped him shift from pure strategy to powerful storytelling. In the courtroom, he created space where empathy meets advocacy. Today, Ronald plays a major role in a multi-state law firm, and his approach stands out in the legal field. He focuses his time where it matters most and delegates everything he can. He also notes that listening to what others were saying—and doing what they didn't want to—led him to specialize in healthcare defense. Choosing an area of law others avoid gave him a strategic edge and helped the firm grow. This episode isn't just about firm growth—it's about identity. Ronald talks candidly about the emotional weight of litigation, the mental shift from technician to visionary, and the power of mindfulness. He credits creative outlets like working out and writing to help him stay grounded, and emphasizes that strong leadership requires knowing when to step back—not just push harder. Ronald's story challenges legal professionals to stop using the law as a shield, to lead with courage, embrace the human side of practice, and build something sustainable. This conversation is a reminder that your story, your mission, and your mindset matter just as much as your legal skills. In this episode, you will hear: Ronald Chapman's transition from a Marine Corps JAG officer to playing a key role in a multi-state law firm Aligning personal mission with professional vision and the importance of niching in legal practice Challenges and strategies in managing a healthcare-focused law practice Lessons on delegation, innovation, and leadership drawn from military experience The role of strategic connections and niche focus in expanding legal influence Humanizing legal defense and the significance of personal narratives in court Balancing leadership responsibilities with self-care and personal well-being Stay Connected & Show Your Support: Never miss an episode—subscribe to Great Practice, Great Life!  ⭐Like what you hear? A quick review helps more people find the show.⭐ Supporting Resources: Ronald W. Chapman II: ronaldwchapman.com Chapman Law Group: www.chapmanlawgroup.com Truth and Persuasion: In the Digital Revolution by Ronald W. Chapman II: www.amazon.com/Truth-Persuasion-Revolution-Ronald-Chapman-ebook/dp/B0DNDC6G4N Fight the Feds: Unraveling Federal Criminal Investigations by Ronald W. Chapman II: www.amazon.com/Fight-Feds-Unraveling-Criminal-Investigations-ebook/dp/B09PPTG1MG Ronald's YouTube: www.youtube.com/@RonaldChapmanII Chapman Law Group YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChapmanLawGroup Audio Pen: audiopen.ai Subscribe to the Atticus Newsletter: atticusadvantage.com/newsletter/?utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=ad&utm_term=na Our Great Life™ Couples Workshop: atticusadvantage.com/workshops/our-great-life-couples-workshop Discount code: COUPLES500 for $500 off Ep 136: The Biggest Marketing Mistakes Lawyers Make and How to Fix Them with Robert Rose: atticusadvantage.com/podcast/marketing-mistakes-lawyers-make-with-robert-rose Join the Trial Lawyers Group: atticusadvantage.com/contact-us If there's a topic you would like us to cover on an upcoming episode, please email us at steve.riley@atticusadvantage.com. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, the topic is culture jacking, as Robert wrote a very timely piece on the Content Marketing Institute's blog: How B2B Brands Capitalize on Meme-Worthy Moments, as our LinkedIn feeds are filled with images of a kisscam from a Coldplay concert.  Key points from the chat: Less “newsjacking” as politics becomes so divisive, and humor has become difficult.  Memes and culture jacking are filling the gap, but can be a double-edged sword  Understanding cultural references is crucial for effective engagement. Not all memes resonate with every audience. Authenticity is key. If you have a question for the bar, or maybe an opinion on what was shared this week, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's post: How B2B Brands Capitalize on Meme-Worthy Moments Robert's Lens newsletter  Rose Colored Glasses - Robert Rose on the Content Marketing Institute Ian's firm - Velocity B Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode of This Old Marketing, Robert dives headfirst into the uncomfortable - and increasingly urgent - tension at the heart of modern content strategy: Can we still create truly human content, full of nuance, voice, and emotional honesty… while also making sure the machines don't misinterpret (or mangle) what we mean? Inspired by the announced end of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Robert explores how the final stretch of a show - or a career, or even a blog archive - can shape both public perception and machine learning for years to come. This week Robert covers: Why “good” content now means craft, not just output. The shift from writing for search engines to teaching AI what to say about you. The danger (and opportunity) of legacy content becoming training data. A new strategy for structuring content that serves both people and machines. Four practical steps you can take right now to future-proof your brand's voice. Oh - and Joe's out this week, off pitching new names for the Guardians and Commanders to the Trump administration. Don't worry. Robert's got it handled. Tune in, laugh a little, squirm a little, and leave with a renewed sense of purpose—and a checklist. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  However, this week, we have a slightly different episode as Robert couldn't make our regular virtual bar recording, so to get our Robert Rose fix, we share something he recorded for the Content Marketing Institute and his Rose-Colored Glasses blog, titled “Old Content, New Risk: What's AI Learning About Your Brand?” We hope you enjoy this last-minute change. Robert will be back in the bar next week, and if you have a question for the bar, or maybe an opinion on what was shared this week, please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Full post: Old Content, New Risk: What's AI Learning About Your Brand? Rose Colored Glasses - Robert Rose on the Content Marketing Institute Ian's firm - Velocity B Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get ready for this special episode that you needed to hear years ago. Let me say this plainly: Working for someone else is the riskiest thing you can do right now. For decades, we believed that a "good job" was the ultimate security. A steady paycheck. Healthcare. Maybe a 401(k) with a match. But that model is falling apart in real time. I've seen this from the inside. I've been the employee. I've been the boss. I've been the guy who signed the layoff papers. When I was at Penton we went through three rounds of layoffs in 18 months and it was devastating for everyone involved. And this continues today but at breakneck speed. Here's the truth: no job is safe anymore...especially in marketing. AI is replacing entry-level marketers faster than we can track. Some agencies I know are in desperation mode. The only advice brand marketing teams get is to lean more into AI. Is that even the right strategy? And executive teams still don't understand what content actually does...until they decide it's too expensive (even thought it's not) and cut it. Here's the harsh truth: Most people following the “good job, good life” blueprint are broke, stressed, unfulfilled, and trapped. The old dream isn't dead because people stopped working hard. It's dead because the game changed and nobody updated the playbook. ----- This week's links: Dallas Cowboys NOT America's Team Joe Pulizzi's New Book "Burn the Playbook" Pre-Order ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

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Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, the chaps discuss the complexities of marketing budgets, the importance of setting pragmatic marketing strategies, and the concept of lean marketing teams.  They explore various budgeting methods, the challenges of aligning marketing goals with financial realities, and the need for marketing to be viewed as a strategic investment rather than a cost center, the perceptions of marketing within organizations, and the implications of these views on budget allocation and strategic decision-making. Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Ian's new advisory firm - Velocity B Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Robert flies solo (Joe's busy revolutionizing dairy on the blockchain) to ask a question:  What if slower is the new smarter? After riffing on OpenAI's burnout‑induced shutdown, he unveils a sneak peek of his upcoming book, Valuable Friction. From Netflix's “Skip Intro” button to AI‑generated sameness, Robert shows how our obsession with frictionless everything is draining the meaning out of marketing...and life. Tune in for the four kinds of friction that sharpen ideas, deepen relationships, steady operations, and save you from knee‑jerk strategy. No co‑host, no fast‑forward, just 100 percent Robert. Press play, don't skip the intro, and discover why a little resistance might be your brand's unfair advantage. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

After a quick cover of the Cloudflare news where it will be possible to select and make money from AI companies crawling your site, Joe and Robert dive into marketing plan B. Specifically -  The New Normal: Why Everyone Needs a Personal Brand (Even If You're Not Selling Anything) The collapse of the idea that a job = stability. From creators to CMOs: why everyone needs visibility. The difference between self-promotion and self-preservation. Hot take: You're always in stealth mode for your next job (even if you don't know it yet). And...Content as Career Insurance: Best Practices for Building Your Brand What platforms actually matter (and which ones are dead weight)? Where to start? We have the answers in this episode. ----- This week's links: Cloudflare Launches AI Marketplace Paramount Settles Trump Case Joe's Newsletter Post on Freedom ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, on Ian's mind is whether we should be educating LLMs with our content, and Robert suggests that there might be lessons to be learned from Google's rise two decades ago. They discuss: How our content gets served, aggregated, and we don't pick the experience What is the purpose and value of educating LLMs with our content?  Will users click through? Is it an impression?  Will the content consumer behavior change? Is there a first mover advantage? Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Ian's new advisory firm - Velocity B Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AI hits the headlines again. Anthropic wins a lawsuit for its training data procedures, but the judge leaves room for additional lawsuits. In the greater scheme, will any of the lawsuits really matter? John Oliver's AI Slop video is "must-see-TV" and AI content continues to become a bigger part of our lives in content creation and marketing. What do we need to do? And Zohran Mamdani wins the Democratic nomination for mayor in New York, outlasting the big money players through a Gen Z-focused approach. What can we learn from this and will we see more? Winners and losers include Mumford & Sons and Intel dropping marketing as a core function. Rants and raves include Voice of America and the LinkedIn Ballad. ----- This week's links: Anthropic Wins Case AI Slop and John Oliver Mamdani Takes New York Nomination with TikTok VOA's Iran Mess Mumford & Sons Membership Pass Intel Outsources Marketing to Accenture ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, on Ian's mind is is the importance of individual credibility vs brands in content marketing and what this means for B2B. Should we worry about creating thought leaders, and they leave?  They discuss: AI is influencing how we perceive content authenticity. The 'from line' in emails is more important than the subject line. B2B brands need to invest in promoting their employees as thought leaders. Social media is shifting from brand-centric to individual-centric content. Trust is being built more around individuals than brands. Navigating employee influence requires trust and motivation. Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Ian's new advisory firm - Velocity B Ann Handley's LinkedIn Post Someone asked me: "What's the point of a writer in the age of AI content?" Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Huge research uncovers the obvious. Television and "traditional media" is going obsolete, as social media revenues and watch/listen time dominates. It is indeed the end of the living room. The boys review reports from WPP and NiemenLab. In marketing winners, Terry Moran launches a substack after being fired. But shouldn't he have had one already? Contractual reasons aside, the boys detail a marketing/creator survival plan that's not just a nice to have. Rants and raves include Answer Engine Optimization Hype and the GENIUS act. ----- This week's links: Creators Overtake Traditional Media The Brand/Studio Line Blurs Social Media Overtakes TV Ads on Whatsapp Terry Moran Launches Substack Journalist Survival Plan Genius Act Progress ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

In this episode of Great Practice, Great Life®, Steve Riley welcomes back content marketing guru Robert Rose for a powerful conversation tailored to attorneys and law firm owners looking to improve their marketing strategy. Robert shares how lawyers can turn their natural communication strengths, advocacy, storytelling, and clarity into a winning content marketing strategy. His tips are practical, achievable, and designed for busy professionals. Many small and solo law firms rely almost exclusively on referrals. While referrals are important, they aren't a full marketing plan. Robert explains why a consistent and structured marketing strategy is critical for growth. He shares how attorneys often treat marketing as an occasional task instead of a business function and how to change that. You'll learn why templated, generic marketing content usually fails, and what to do instead. Steve and Robert dive into how to create authentic, targeted content that speaks to your ideal clients. Whether you're using LinkedIn to connect with professionals or Facebook for a broader reach, your content should reflect your voice and values. The episode also explores how referral partnerships and social media can complement content marketing to elevate your firm's visibility and authority. Robert offers simple ways to get started—without overwhelming your schedule or sacrificing billable hours. If you're tired of wasting time and money on marketing that doesn't work, this episode is your roadmap to doing it right. In this episode, you will hear: Strategies for small law firms to leverage content marketing, featuring insights from expert Robert Rose Transforming lawyers' advocacy and storytelling skills into effective content marketing tools Overcoming misconceptions about marketing as a sporadic activity The importance of a consistent, structured approach Utilizing social media and referral partnerships to enhance law firm presence and brand voice Emphasizing personalized, creative marketing strategies over templated approaches Aligning marketing efforts with personal and professional satisfaction for attorneys Addressing common challenges and pitfalls in law firm marketing, including a lack of strategy and fear of commoditization Follow and Review: We'd love for you to follow us if you haven't yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We'd love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If there's a topic you would like us to cover on an upcoming episode, please email us at steve.riley@atticusadvantage.com. Supporting Resources: Robert Rose: robertrose.net Robert Rose LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/robrose Seventh Bear: seventhbear.com Request a free discovery call with Robert Rose! atticusadvantage.com/robertrose Episode 083: Content Marketing for Lawyers with Robert Rose: atticusadvantage.com/podcast/mastering-content-marketing-for-small-and-solo-law-firms Episode 029: Just Because Every Other Lawyer is Doing It Doesn't Mean You Should with Robert Rose:  atticusadvantage.com/podcast/just-because-every-other-lawyer-is-doing-it-doesnt-mean-you-should-with-robert-rose Content Marketing Strategy: Harness the Power of Your Brand's Voice by Robert Rose: www.amazon.com/Content-Marketing-Strategy-Harness-Brands/dp/1398611506 Killing Marketing: How Innovative Businesses Are Turning Marketing Cost Into Profit by Robert Rose: www.amazon.com/Killing-Marketing-Innovative-Businesses-Turning/dp/1260026426 The Summit: atticussummit.com Workshop: Grow Your Practice With AI:  atticusadvantage.com/workshops/grow-your-law-practice-with-ai Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Mary Meeker, who some describe as the queen of the internet, has published a 340-page report called Trends – Artificial Intelligence, that Robert has some thoughts on, so that's this week's topic, discussed over a cocktail blended especially for Father's Day tomorrow.  They discuss: The challenge of reporting on AI, as while the report is excellent, some points feel dated due to the fast pace of AI development.  AI should be viewed as a tool rather than a replacement for human workers. People describe themselves as  AI-enhanced, but no one ever said they are “spreadsheet-enhanced”. There's skepticism about AI's capabilities compared to human intelligence and the need for diverse human input.  AI is “free puppies”, not “free beer”; it's not saving as much human work as has been predicted. Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Trends – Artificial Intelligence (AI) - Mary Meeker / Bond  Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe and Robert break down Mary Meeker's "Future of AI" report and discuss the biggest opportunities and threats for marketers and creators in the future. Disney sues Midjourney in yet another lawsuit against AI companies. When will it stop and why should we care? And Meta invests $15 billion more in AI, trying to catch up in the AI race. In winners and losers, Joe discusses how to get found in AI searches and Robert talks about the failed mainstream media with the LA coverage. Rants and raves include a new creator economy lobbying group from MatPat and a boost to musical theater. ----- This week's links: Disney Sues Midjourney The Future of AI Report Meta Makes $15 Billion Bet on AGI How to Get Found in AI Search [Chart] MatPat Starts Creator Caucus Live Theater Gets a Boost ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

As it's Saturday, you may be expecting our host Ian Truscott to be sipping a cocktail and picking the brains of Robert Rose in the Rose & Rockstar, our virtual bar. However, an overrunning appointment means Robert didn't make it to the bar, so Ian goes solo. For this last-minute solo, Ian picks a topic he recently shared in a webinar for Marketing Profs - “The ART of Content Marketing” - where he shares the role content marketing plays in creating Awareness, Revenue, and Trust.  The main points Ian makes this week: Marketing should focus on creating ART, not just content. Content marketing targets the 'dark funnel' of potential buyers. Building brand trust is crucial for long-term marketing success. Content should be useful and address the needs of the audience. Content should be launched and marketed like a product. Regular audits of content strategy are necessary for effectiveness. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week: Content Marketing Friday Forum Webinar - The ART of Content Marketing A Deep Dive Into The Dark Funnel | 6sense B2B go-to-market benchmarks | Dreamdata Tuesday 2¢: Everybody is FOFU Fighting – Ian Truscott The Greatest Sales Deck I've Ever Seen | by Andy Raskin | Mission.org | Medium Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Stienski & Mass Media - We'll be right back You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon, and Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did someone say McDonald's is bringing back snack wraps? In other news, who knew that artificial intelligence would force brands and publishers toward an indie-creator model? If Google AI is undermining journalism, perhaps the way out is through the individual human creator. In another AI scandal, Builder.ai collapses, even with a large sum of money invested by Microsoft. And Netflix adds advertising to its IP. Good decision? Winners and losers include Ohio Bike Week and ELF/Hailey Bieber. Rants and raves include WaPo's new mission statement and the new NYTimes lawsuit against ChatGPT. ----- This week's links: Google AI Mode Undermining Journalism Builder.ai Collapses Netflix Adds Ad Tech Chain Restaurants Go Nostalgia ELF Buys Rhode WaPo's New Mission Statement ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a fancy cocktail with a fancy name, Ian and Robert discuss the importance of being distinct yet remaining relevant, the challenges of standing out in a crowded market, and the concept of 'uncommon value' as a competitive advantage. The critical concept of being distinct. Avoiding confusion about your place in the category. The impact of AI and the importance of brand recall. Creating “uncommon value” to differentiate. How this idea impacts your storytelling.  Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's article - Old Differentiation Rules Are Broken—Now What? Robert's newsletter - Lens on Substack Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify.This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AI is again in the headlines this week with Anthropic announcing that its AI will do anything to survive...even bust you for cheating on your wife. AI layoffs are starting to hit home. It's almost to the point that people are being laid off "by" AI itself. Joe and Robert uncover the truth. Rand Fishkin discusses 10 ways to understand no-click search...and it's mostly stuff we can actually do. And long live print, as Microsoft launches a new print publication. Winners and losers include LinkedIn commenting and Duolingo. Rants and raves include the new Bitcoin treasury fad and AI Agent pitch decks. ----- This week's links: Anthropic AI Resorts to Blackmail AI Layoffs Are Here The End of Website Traffic Print is Dead. Long Live Print. Duolingo CEO Retraces AI Announcement Businesses Go On Bitcoin Buying Spree The AI Agent Pitch Deck ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Ian laments a missed opportunity for the podcast's name as Robert shares tips on using AI for research and introduces him to the term epistemology as they discuss Robert's recent post for The Content Marketing Institute - Gen AI Isn't Marketing's Best Intern — It's Something More Topics in the bar today: Generative AI can enhance the creative process rather than just speed it up. The output of AI is less important than the thought process it encourages. AI is trained to agree, so we must prompt it to challenge our ideas. Epistemology helps us understand why we believe what we believe. Critical thinking is essential when using AI in creative processes. Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's article - Gen AI Isn't Marketing's Best Intern — It's Something More Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's firm: Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Google's big marketing event was an explosion of AI - a new home screen, more agents, AI video and even smart bidding. Why? Google's main revenue stream (search ads) is in big trouble.  Is Google going the way of the yellow pages? The boys ponder. And Apple is in trouble too. OpenAI buys IO, run by the designer behind the iPhone. It seems that OpenAI is going into the hardware business, with their sights directly on Apple. In other news, a major newspaper releases the books of the year without real books and Netflix steps in to syndicate Sesame Street. Winners and losers include a furniture store and Peloton. Rants and raves include AI use by writers and the idea of growth marketing. ----- This week's links: Google Marketing Live Major Newspaper Creates Fake Books Netflix to Syndicate Sesame Street OpenAI Buys IO Peloton Dumps CMO AI Writing and Author Tribes ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, following a discussion about alcohol measures in Scotland, Ian asks Robert about lessons from his successful podcast and if he'd start This Old Marketing today. Some of the things they discussed: Building an audience before launching a podcast  Video offers better discoverability than audio alone The intimacy of audio creates a strong connection with listeners Marketing a podcast requires effort beyond just creating content Discoverability is essential for growing a podcast audience Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The boys have finally jumped the shark with this episode. But first, Mark Zuckerberg declares war on the advertising industry. Meta's AI Do-It-Yourself tool will either win big or be fly by night. There is no middle ground. The BBC will push its mission and content into TikTok and Instagram. But is it too late to fight disinformation? Max becomes HBO Max (again). It will be just HBO in 15 to 18 months. Marketing winners are Nutter Butter and Warner Brothers. Rants and commentary include AEO and Sperm Racing (yep...you saw that right). ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg's War on Advertising BBC Boss Goes for Truth Max Rebrands Again Nutter Butter Explodes Warner Brothers and Leveraging IP Weird Sperm Racing AEO Dumb or Crazy Smart ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, over a classic tipple, Ian and Robert step into the minefield of controversial content. How edgy and different should we be? Based on a recent article Robert published on the Content Marketing Institute's blog - Surprise! Your Most Controversial Content Might Be Your Weakest” The main points from the bar this week: People are becoming numb to controversial content Applying the MAYA principle to content strategy Brands must believe in the positions they take Brands need to earn their place in the conversations Content strategy should include both familiar and surprising elements Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Thompson Bros at Dornoch Distillery Surprise! Your Most Controversial Content Might Be Your Weakest The Four-Letter Code to Selling Just About Anything - Derick Thompson  Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Buckle up! AI is driving now. Zuckerberg at Meta AI doubles down on their cure for loneliness and more friends, but have taken out any sort of safety precautions. We need to be worried. Very worried. Trump wants to tariff the movie business. Tell me exactly how that would work please? And Virginia signs a social media scrolling reduction that won't reduce scrolling. Winners and losers include LEGO and Warren Buffett. Rants and raves include Disney's new park and the White House social media effort. ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg and Meta AI Trump Tariffs and Hollywood Virginia Law on Social Media Warren Buffett Retires LEGO and F1 Racing Trump Social Media Strategy Disney's New Park ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week Ian and Robert discuss a prediction from Gartner that we will need to put 70% of our marketing budget into offline to reach an audience who will be digital detoxing.  The main points from the bar this week: Digital detoxing could be a thing, especially as trust and authenticity are reduced This will have an impact on marketing strategies and the budget Print media is gaining value as an alternative messaging channel The rise of gated communities that marketers will need to earn their way into  Identity-based content consumption and personalization Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week The Gartner Top Marketing Predictions for 2025 (webinar) Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Seventh Bear Ian's Marketing Profs Webinar Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Special episode breaking down the state of content creators, content entrepreneurs and how marketers fit in. Including: The Rise of Creators in 2025 Renting vs. Owning The TikTok Effect Community as Currency Revenue Mix How to Get Rich as a Creator Here's a link to the complete study. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Welcome to The Rose and Rockstar - with the Chief Troublemaker at Seventh Bear, fractional marketing leader and author Robert Rose, behind the bar serving one of his splendid cocktails while our host Ian Truscott, a CMO but not a rockstar, picks his brain on a marketing topic.  This week, Ian and Robert discuss an idea Robert shared in his Content Marketing Institute column about slowing down marketing.  The main points from the bar this week: The idea of vibe marketing  Speed in marketing often correlates with quantity, not quality Slowing down marketing advocates for thoughtful and strategic approaches. Checkboxes and agile marketing methodologies can lead to a loss of creativity Marketing should prioritize thoughtful processes over rapid execution The integration of AI should enhance creativity, not replace it Successful marketing often comes from iterative processes, not just quick wins Do you have a question for the bar? Or maybe an opinion on what we've discussed? Please get in touch - just search “rockstar cmo” on the interwebs or LinkedIn. Enjoy! — The Links The people: Ian Truscott on LinkedIn and Bluesky Robert Rose on LinkedIn and Bluesky Mentioned this week Slow-Motion Marketing is the Antidote to Vibe Marketing Robert's podcast - This Old Marketing Robert's regular series on Content Marketing Institute Seventh Bear Rockstar CMO: The Beat Newsletter that we send every Monday Rockstar CMO on the web, Twitter, and LinkedIn Previous episodes and all the show notes: Rockstar CMO FM. Track List: Piano Music is by Johnny Easton, shared under a Creative Commons license We'll be right back by Stienski & Mass Media on YouTube You can listen to this on all good podcast platforms, like Apple, Amazon and Spotify. This podcast is part of the Marketing Podcast Network Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As Tariffs hang over the US Advertising industry, more companies start to look internal. That means internal communications, internal influencers, owned media and more. Could Trump's Tariffs be a boon for content marketers? Google loses their online advertising monopoly case. The boys put on their prediction hats to let you know what will happen. A judge has blocked the termination of VOA. But is it too late? Joe thinks it is. And Ryan Coogler's movie deal gives marketers and creators a lot to think about. Winners and losers include the American people and Diary of a CEO podcast. Rants and raves include Google's cookies and the uber wealthy. This week's links: Google Loses Case Tariffs Crush Ad Market Judge Blocks VOA Halt Coogler's Movie Deal America Gives Up on Fact Checking DOAC Turns Down Big Deals America's Riches Households Have Banner Year Google Keeps Cookies ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with news that OpenAI (led by Sam Altman) is considering a social media platform that may compete with Elon's Twitter/X. Let's face it...we know what this is really about. Joe and Robert bring it home for you. META's big lawsuit with the FTC gets started. Did Zuckerberg grease the skids enough to get this one through? Creator Economy jobs (aka content marketing) are up, up, up. Why is that? And the top Gen AI use cases don't involve marketing. Marketing winners and losers include databases and Twinkies. Rants and raves include Superman and faith-based billboards. This week's links: META's FTC Case Starts OpenAI to Launch Social Platform? Creator Economy Jobs on the Up Top Gen AI Use Cases Twinkies Goes 420 The Summer of Superman ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Has AI finally killed search? Does Google even matter anymore? Must we now build our content on rented land? The boys go through each of these questions and talk about if "do not build your house on rented land" is still a thing. In other news, the TikTok deal is delayed (again). In marketing winners and losers, Joe takes on the Catholic church while Robert gushes over Duolingo. Rants and raves includes London's takedown of Leon, while the Shopify CEO tells employees to do an AI check. This week's links: Trump Delays TikTok (again) Big Search Shift (Google) Push to Rented Land? Duolingo for the Win Catholic Church Needs a Change Shopify CEO Stokes AI Flames London Taking Down Telsa with Ads ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Possibly our dumbest episode yet. Joe and Robert go deep into the dumbery to try to make sense of an incredibly weird (and dumb) week. TikTok is for sale. No it's not. Maybe it is. Will we know this week? Elon Musk merges his two companies into one, creating the dumbest valuation in the history of corporate mergers. And META's AI steals a bunch of copyrighted books. Heck, they've probably already stolen this podcast. Marketing losers include vibe marketing and Hooters. Raves and commentary include Gartner and Chris Ross and how the tariffs will affect marketing spending. This week's links: Amazon Interested in TikTok TikTok Looming Deadline Elon's Merger Is Dumb META Steals Copyrighted Books Ghibli Effect Takes Over ChatGPT Hooters Bankruptcy Chris Ross from Gartner ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

A very special episode on what makes a successful content marketer or content creator. Robert and Joe talk about what works today to successfully build and monetize an audience with these five keys. 1. For marketers, setting a clear goal up front - sales, savings or sunshine and then find a measurement tool that aligns with current corporate measurement. From the creator side, what's my goal? You exit at the beginning. 2. What's the show for your particular audience AND is it consistent AND is it (or will it be) indispensable? To the point - do I have a tilt that is unique, interesting AND attracts financial support? 3. Build audience like crazy at the start and try not to sell anything...or sell just one thing. Put 1/3 time into the content and two-thirds into promotion. 4. Considering everything, we'd lean toward a video podcast series, which takes advantage of all the social video and the cost effectiveness of podcasts. Then we'd have some kind of email deliverable, at least to get the data...but ultimately a newsletter. 5. Create THE LIST of good and bad things you do/want to do. Develop a stopping list. ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

New data suggests that advertising growth is slowing. Overall marketing is soon to follow. Will the current political environment drive us into a marketing recession? Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei proclaims that AI will take over all coding in the next year. Robert takes offense and the boys talk about the reasons these types of proclamations are made. And is AI slop a brute force attack on the major platforms? The point? AI content is taking over YouTube, TikTok and Facebook and the platforms simply don't care. Marketing losers are Unilever and the NFL. Rants are the AI-ification of press and the killing of Voice of America. This week's links: Ad Growth Slows Anthropic CEO Predicts AI Coding Takeover AI Slop Is Non-Stop Unilever's Big Mistake Adobe and AI Agents The Death of Voice of America ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.