PNR: This Old Marketing | Content Marketing with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

Huge research uncovers the obvious. Television and "traditional media" is going obsolete, as social media revenues and watch/listen time dominates. It is indeed the end of the living room. The boys review reports from WPP and NiemenLab. In marketing winners, Terry Moran launches a substack after being fired. But shouldn't he have had one already? Contractual reasons aside, the boys detail a marketing/creator survival plan that's not just a nice to have. Rants and raves include Answer Engine Optimization Hype and the GENIUS act. ----- This week's links: Creators Overtake Traditional Media The Brand/Studio Line Blurs Social Media Overtakes TV Ads on Whatsapp Terry Moran Launches Substack Journalist Survival Plan Genius Act Progress ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

Joe and Robert break down Mary Meeker's "Future of AI" report and discuss the biggest opportunities and threats for marketers and creators in the future. Disney sues Midjourney in yet another lawsuit against AI companies. When will it stop and why should we care? And Meta invests $15 billion more in AI, trying to catch up in the AI race. In winners and losers, Joe discusses how to get found in AI searches and Robert talks about the failed mainstream media with the LA coverage. Rants and raves include a new creator economy lobbying group from MatPat and a boost to musical theater. ----- This week's links: Disney Sues Midjourney The Future of AI Report Meta Makes $15 Billion Bet on AGI How to Get Found in AI Search [Chart] MatPat Starts Creator Caucus Live Theater Gets a Boost ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

Did someone say McDonald's is bringing back snack wraps? In other news, who knew that artificial intelligence would force brands and publishers toward an indie-creator model? If Google AI is undermining journalism, perhaps the way out is through the individual human creator. In another AI scandal, Builder.ai collapses, even with a large sum of money invested by Microsoft. And Netflix adds advertising to its IP. Good decision? Winners and losers include Ohio Bike Week and ELF/Hailey Bieber. Rants and raves include WaPo's new mission statement and the new NYTimes lawsuit against ChatGPT. ----- This week's links: Google AI Mode Undermining Journalism Builder.ai Collapses Netflix Adds Ad Tech Chain Restaurants Go Nostalgia ELF Buys Rhode WaPo's New Mission Statement ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

AI is again in the headlines this week with Anthropic announcing that its AI will do anything to survive...even bust you for cheating on your wife. AI layoffs are starting to hit home. It's almost to the point that people are being laid off "by" AI itself. Joe and Robert uncover the truth. Rand Fishkin discusses 10 ways to understand no-click search...and it's mostly stuff we can actually do. And long live print, as Microsoft launches a new print publication. Winners and losers include LinkedIn commenting and Duolingo. Rants and raves include the new Bitcoin treasury fad and AI Agent pitch decks. ----- This week's links: Anthropic AI Resorts to Blackmail AI Layoffs Are Here The End of Website Traffic Print is Dead. Long Live Print. Duolingo CEO Retraces AI Announcement Businesses Go On Bitcoin Buying Spree The AI Agent Pitch Deck ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Google's big marketing event was an explosion of AI - a new home screen, more agents, AI video and even smart bidding. Why? Google's main revenue stream (search ads) is in big trouble.  Is Google going the way of the yellow pages? The boys ponder. And Apple is in trouble too. OpenAI buys IO, run by the designer behind the iPhone. It seems that OpenAI is going into the hardware business, with their sights directly on Apple. In other news, a major newspaper releases the books of the year without real books and Netflix steps in to syndicate Sesame Street. Winners and losers include a furniture store and Peloton. Rants and raves include AI use by writers and the idea of growth marketing. ----- This week's links: Google Marketing Live Major Newspaper Creates Fake Books Netflix to Syndicate Sesame Street OpenAI Buys IO Peloton Dumps CMO AI Writing and Author Tribes ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys have finally jumped the shark with this episode. But first, Mark Zuckerberg declares war on the advertising industry. Meta's AI Do-It-Yourself tool will either win big or be fly by night. There is no middle ground. The BBC will push its mission and content into TikTok and Instagram. But is it too late to fight disinformation? Max becomes HBO Max (again). It will be just HBO in 15 to 18 months. Marketing winners are Nutter Butter and Warner Brothers. Rants and commentary include AEO and Sperm Racing (yep...you saw that right). ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg's War on Advertising BBC Boss Goes for Truth Max Rebrands Again Nutter Butter Explodes Warner Brothers and Leveraging IP Weird Sperm Racing AEO Dumb or Crazy Smart ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Buckle up! AI is driving now. Zuckerberg at Meta AI doubles down on their cure for loneliness and more friends, but have taken out any sort of safety precautions. We need to be worried. Very worried. Trump wants to tariff the movie business. Tell me exactly how that would work please? And Virginia signs a social media scrolling reduction that won't reduce scrolling. Winners and losers include LEGO and Warren Buffett. Rants and raves include Disney's new park and the White House social media effort. ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg and Meta AI Trump Tariffs and Hollywood Virginia Law on Social Media Warren Buffett Retires LEGO and F1 Racing Trump Social Media Strategy Disney's New Park ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Special episode breaking down the state of content creators, content entrepreneurs and how marketers fit in. Including: The Rise of Creators in 2025 Renting vs. Owning The TikTok Effect Community as Currency Revenue Mix How to Get Rich as a Creator Here's a link to the complete study. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

As Tariffs hang over the US Advertising industry, more companies start to look internal. That means internal communications, internal influencers, owned media and more. Could Trump's Tariffs be a boon for content marketers? Google loses their online advertising monopoly case. The boys put on their prediction hats to let you know what will happen. A judge has blocked the termination of VOA. But is it too late? Joe thinks it is. And Ryan Coogler's movie deal gives marketers and creators a lot to think about. Winners and losers include the American people and Diary of a CEO podcast. Rants and raves include Google's cookies and the uber wealthy. This week's links: Google Loses Case Tariffs Crush Ad Market Judge Blocks VOA Halt Coogler's Movie Deal America Gives Up on Fact Checking DOAC Turns Down Big Deals America's Riches Households Have Banner Year Google Keeps Cookies ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with news that OpenAI (led by Sam Altman) is considering a social media platform that may compete with Elon's Twitter/X. Let's face it...we know what this is really about. Joe and Robert bring it home for you. META's big lawsuit with the FTC gets started. Did Zuckerberg grease the skids enough to get this one through? Creator Economy jobs (aka content marketing) are up, up, up. Why is that? And the top Gen AI use cases don't involve marketing. Marketing winners and losers include databases and Twinkies. Rants and raves include Superman and faith-based billboards. This week's links: META's FTC Case Starts OpenAI to Launch Social Platform? Creator Economy Jobs on the Up Top Gen AI Use Cases Twinkies Goes 420 The Summer of Superman ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Has AI finally killed search? Does Google even matter anymore? Must we now build our content on rented land? The boys go through each of these questions and talk about if "do not build your house on rented land" is still a thing. In other news, the TikTok deal is delayed (again). In marketing winners and losers, Joe takes on the Catholic church while Robert gushes over Duolingo. Rants and raves includes London's takedown of Leon, while the Shopify CEO tells employees to do an AI check. This week's links: Trump Delays TikTok (again) Big Search Shift (Google) Push to Rented Land? Duolingo for the Win Catholic Church Needs a Change Shopify CEO Stokes AI Flames London Taking Down Telsa with Ads ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Possibly our dumbest episode yet. Joe and Robert go deep into the dumbery to try to make sense of an incredibly weird (and dumb) week. TikTok is for sale. No it's not. Maybe it is. Will we know this week? Elon Musk merges his two companies into one, creating the dumbest valuation in the history of corporate mergers. And META's AI steals a bunch of copyrighted books. Heck, they've probably already stolen this podcast. Marketing losers include vibe marketing and Hooters. Raves and commentary include Gartner and Chris Ross and how the tariffs will affect marketing spending. This week's links: Amazon Interested in TikTok TikTok Looming Deadline Elon's Merger Is Dumb META Steals Copyrighted Books Ghibli Effect Takes Over ChatGPT Hooters Bankruptcy Chris Ross from Gartner ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

A very special episode on what makes a successful content marketer or content creator. Robert and Joe talk about what works today to successfully build and monetize an audience with these five keys. 1. For marketers, setting a clear goal up front - sales, savings or sunshine and then find a measurement tool that aligns with current corporate measurement. From the creator side, what's my goal? You exit at the beginning. 2. What's the show for your particular audience AND is it consistent AND is it (or will it be) indispensable? To the point - do I have a tilt that is unique, interesting AND attracts financial support? 3. Build audience like crazy at the start and try not to sell anything...or sell just one thing. Put 1/3 time into the content and two-thirds into promotion. 4. Considering everything, we'd lean toward a video podcast series, which takes advantage of all the social video and the cost effectiveness of podcasts. Then we'd have some kind of email deliverable, at least to get the data...but ultimately a newsletter. 5. Create THE LIST of good and bad things you do/want to do. Develop a stopping list. ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

New data suggests that advertising growth is slowing. Overall marketing is soon to follow. Will the current political environment drive us into a marketing recession? Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei proclaims that AI will take over all coding in the next year. Robert takes offense and the boys talk about the reasons these types of proclamations are made. And is AI slop a brute force attack on the major platforms? The point? AI content is taking over YouTube, TikTok and Facebook and the platforms simply don't care. Marketing losers are Unilever and the NFL. Rants are the AI-ification of press and the killing of Voice of America. This week's links: Ad Growth Slows Anthropic CEO Predicts AI Coding Takeover AI Slop Is Non-Stop Unilever's Big Mistake Adobe and AI Agents The Death of Voice of America ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back and the buys are heating up. Food-delivery startup Wonder purchased Tastemade, now boasting content creation to meal preparation to delivery all in one. Is more on the way? We think so. Spotify paid $5 billion dollars to indie creators last year. Is it better to go outside the labels than sign with a big agency? And Unilever ups their social media budget to 30 to 50 percent of total marketing budget...all for targeted local influencers. But did they forget about employees? Marketing winners and losers include Southwest Airlines and CMO tenure. Rants and raves include Substack and shadow AI. This week's links: Spotify Pays the Indies Are Big Music Labels Valuable? Wonder Acquires Tastemade Unilever Doubles Down on Influencers CMO Tenure Study Shadow AI Brands Are Launching Substacks ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with commentary on the death of media. It's a sad case on both political spectrum. And the opportunity in the future belongs to non-media brands. Let's see what happens. In other news, more and more creators are going full AI. How close is it to real, or does that even matter? Marketing winners and losers include Disney and Trump's Gold card. Rants and raves include travel within the US and Meta testing out agents in advertising. This week's links: The Media's Credibility Has Bottomed Creators Are Now Going Full AI Disney Starts Killing Off News Media Trump's Gold Card Meta Testing AI Agents for Business Ads ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gez Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys kick off the show with Dow Jones news and their AI content marketplace of 5,000 publishers. The real news? Vertical content opportunities using proprietary LLMs may ultimately steal the show for B2B content creators. Differentiation is the key coming from B2B speakers at a recent marketing event. The move from company creators to individuals is in full force. And is Substack the new Instagram for smaller creators? Winners and losers include bars in Key West, Levi's and UTC. Rants and raves include MSNBC's big shift, Jeff Bezos, X and Forrester. This week's links: Dow Jones and Content Marketplace B2BMX Speaker Highlights Is Substack the New Instagram? Levi's and Nostalgia UTC Expands Marketing Division Jeff Bezos New WaPo Moves How to Use X Advertising By Forrester ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Reddit announced quarterly results and the stock got hammered. Is Google's changing algorithm to blame? And, if it is, could Google be primed to acquire the 9th largest website on the planet? In other news, episodic video programs and shows are getting more opportunities for syndication. But with so many shows out there, should brands look at partnering with a creator before creating their own content? Winners and losers include Allstate and Kai Cenat. Rants and raves include the Associated Press and Major League Baseball. This week's links: Reddit's Growth Problems Create a Series Is the New Mandate AI and Allstate Kai Cenat to Launch Streaming University MLB Trying Out Robo Umpires The AP and Trump ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Our Super Bowl predictions were dead on, as Joe predicted an Eagles win and Robert predicted a Kendrick Lamar controversy. But more importantly, who were the advertising winners and losers? And...is the Super Bowl the last remaining moment where everyone comes together to watch television at the same time? In other news, BuzzFeed launches a social media network called BF Island. We already predict extinction. And do paywalls work? They do...sort of. Marketing winners include partnerships and ChatGPT. Rants and raves include the end of book blurbs and Welch's content marketing. ----- This week's news links: Big Ratings Win for Super Bowl Super Bowl Ad Winners BuzzFeed Launches Social Media App The Paywall Dilemma OpenAI's Super Bowl Ad Welches Content Marketing The End of Blurbs ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

It's Super Bowl week and the boys make their predictions. Speaking of the Super Bowl, the boys talk about the ads, the value, and what a Super Bowl ad truly costs. And...will there be any winners? Robert does a comparison between OpenAI's deep research and the corresponding Google product. Which one is better and what should marketers do? Winners and losers include Nielsen and Hertz communications. Rants and raves include AMO and Trump Coin. ----- This week's news links: Super Bowl Winners Deep Research Next Big OpenAI Move Influencer Marketing Rises Cable News as We Know It Nielsen Ends Panels Trump Coin Rug Pull ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Man you cappin'. This week, DeepSeek shocks the AI industry (and the world) with its cheaper more efficient model. What comes next for the industry? The buyers line up for TikTok, but is the US Government playing favorites? And Substack is paying cash for TikTok creators to make the switch. Marketing winners include Timothee Chalamet and the TGL golf league. Rants and raves include Chris Sacca (on the Tim Ferriss pod), creating moments, and the return of Nike. ----- This week's news links: The Real DeepSeek Why Is Everyone Freaking Out Over DeepSeek? Trump, TikTok and Socialism White House In Talks with Oracle Substack Paying $20 Million The TGL Golf League Chalamet Goes Gorilla Chris Sacca on Tim Ferriss Nike's Destruction ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys return with a cornucopia of news.  TikTok returns (or did it?). We discuss what is really going on with the Chinese-owned app, whether a US company will buy them, and which one actually will. In other news, Instagram is throwing money at creators (but needs a real model), while META goes from moderated news to community news (but not for ads). In winners and losers, Edelman is out with their Trust Barometer, and Andrew Ross Sorkin has tomorrow's media model. In rants and raves, Anthropic's CEO predicts the future and the only good news coverage of the LA fires was local. ----- This week's news links: The TikTok Ban Update China Comments on TikTok Ownership RedNote Instagram Throws Money Meta Announces Community Notes Meta's Community Notes Don't Include Ads Edelman Trust Barometer Prof G with Andrew Ross Sorkin Inside Anthropic's AI Race ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys go through six different ways that content marketing professionals can be "content marketing meh" in 2025. They include: Create content on more than three platforms Create content in a highly competitive area Lean heavily into AI tools to create content Put all your influence efforts into finding external influencers and none on building internal influence Focus on making sure your tech stack is bulletproof and pour more time and effort into making things automated Brand Schmand you should really focus on lead gen…. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

META's plan to unleash AI Bots onto their social media sites is just a first step into the majority of the content we engage with being synthetic. The boys have more thoughts on this. How involved will Elon be with TikTok's future? More works are headed to the public domain, including Popeye and TinTin. Is there an opportunity for brands here? Finally, the boys discuss the fastest growing marketing roles. Winners and losers include AI-free and NFL red zone. Rants and raves include the Michael Lewis podcast and Pornhub. ----- This week's links: TikTok's CEO and Elon Talk Popeye and TinTin to Public Domain Meta's Plan to Unleash AI Bots Fastest Growing Marketing Roles Greg Isenberg's AI Predictions NFL Red Zone and Commercials Against the Rules Podcast Pornhub Blocked in South ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

A very special This Old Marketing Predictions' episode. Not only do we cover our 2025 predictions of: Where will Bluesky Be? The Future of X X Buys Truth Social GENAI Stumbles Four (4) Trillion Dollars Companies in 2025 The 2025 Disease We All Saw Coming TikTok Will Not Be Banned The Donald Trump Presidency The Failure of Podcasts But we review our 2024 predictions as well as our NFL season-review predictions. How did we score? Listen to find out. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

As we head into 2025, we look back on the crazy year that was 2024. What did we learn? What were the major marketing and life trends? Topics include: Going after that shiny (AI) object. Podcasts and can they even be successful anymore. Forgiveness in 2024 Forget influencers. Invest in your creators. And many more. You don't want to miss this special episode. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

This week we break down Pew research on the Big Four in social media as it pertains to the youth of America. You may be surprised which four platforms they are...and...are you there? We look at the opportunities and challenges ahead. What are the most overhyped marketing strategies for 2024? I bet you can guess number one. Winners and losers include the Pivot podcast and McKinsey. Rants and raves include the OpenAI Santa and Sesame Street. ------ This week's links: Teen Social Media Research from Pew The Most Overhyped Marketing Strategies of 2024 Content Creators Find a Place in Newsrooms Pivot's New Deal McKinsey Pays OpenAI and Santa Mode MAX Kills Sesame Street ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The first ever This Old Marketing where both Robert and Joe are NOT recording at the same time. If anything, you'll get a kick out of this episode for that reason. TikTok is in the news again. Does the impending ban and their emergency motion mean anything at all? Ad giant Omnicom merges with Interpublic in a $13 billion dollar deal. And OpenAI releases Sora, increasing the fight over generative AI video. Winners and losers include print catalogs and the Starbucks origin story. Rants and raves include an article from The Australian and the idea of change in content marketing. ------ This week's links: TikTok Files Emergency Motion Ad Giant Omnicom's Big Deal OpenAI Releases Sora Print Catalogs on the Rise Il Giornale and Starbucks Mission Letter Can Businesses Build Human-Centric Tech? ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with a regular episode this week! In big social media news, the Australian government plans to ban social media for children 16 or under. Could this actually work or is this a bluff? Black Friday is bigger than ever, with TikTok showing its retail teeth. Could TikTok actually be Amazon's biggest competitor? And Bluesky continues to hit on all cylinders. But will it last? Marketing winners include direct book sales and Jaguar. Rants and raves include ChatGPT for travel and the Elvis documentary. ------ This week's links: Australia to Ban Social Media Black Friday Hits Record Is TikTok Ready to Take on Amazon? What is Bluesky? Hat's off to Jaguar Louis Grenier's Book Launch Plan The Taylor Swift Direct Model ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Another very special episode of This Old Marketing...this time, without Robert Rose. Yes...this episode features Joe Pulizzi talking about unconventional content marketing strategies for 2025. Joe discusses how to leverage ChatGPT for persona building, treating employees as creators, leveraging more email and physical events, a big yes to print and much, much more. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special This Old Marketing podcast episode featuring the one and only Robert Rose (with no Joe Pulizzi).  In this special solo episode, Robert takes a deep dive into the state of marketing as we approach the end of 2024. As marketers, we've spent the last 25 years adapting to paradigm-shifting technologies — from the internet and social media to mobile computing. But now, we're navigating the latest disruptor: Generative AI. Robert explores the concept of "Valuable Friction," the deliberate resistance that slows us down, fostering critical thinking and creativity. In an industry obsessed with efficiency and automation, are we losing the joy and creativity that make marketing truly impactful? This episode challenges the status quo and asks: Are we outsourcing our human spark to technology, or are we using it to amplify our creative potential? ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In this special episode Robert and Joe ask each other four secret questions. The answers will surprise you. The boys cover investing, travel, biggest regrets, bigger dreams and what's next in marketing and beyond. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The boys do a debrief of why Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris in the 2024 Presidential election. We can talk policies and character, but it's possible the Trump campaign outmarketed Harris. Winners and losers include Goldfish Crackers and the Nomad Capitalist. Rants and raves include ChatGPT Search and the Content Creator/Influencer. ------ This week's links: A Trump Second Term Will Trump Ban TikTok? Goldfish Crackers and Marketing The Nomad Capitalist ChatGPT Search ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A continuing story on the content gaps available in local news. With more people trusting businesses than ever before, could this be the biggest content marketing opportunity in history? In other news, The Washington Post makes a horrible strategic decision to kill endorsements, costing them over 200,000 subscribers. Microsoft, Google and Apple report incredible earnings on the back of AI. And young TikTok influencers are finding it hard to maintain a real life while being an online content creator. Is the worst to come? Winners and losers include Strauss and the Dallas Cowboys. Rants and raves include another newsletter acquisition and ghost jobs. ------ This week's links: Washington Posts Kills Endorsements Local News Content Gap Microsoft Earnings Grow TikTok High School Influencers The NFL Goes Simpsons Strauss Sponsorship with MLB Another Newsletter Acquisition Ghost Jobs ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

The boys go deep into CMI's 2025 content marketing research report. While the results look pretty similar to last year's report, Joe and Robert offer some prescriptions for 2025 content marketing strategies, including: Think more local in 2025 Who's your "with"? Paid promotion of content for the win Less is more Time to kill some things Let's get risky in 2025 See the full research here. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

The boys are back with breaking news. Semrush, the online visibility company, purchases Search Engine Land and MarTech (plus all the conferences). Is this the start of acquisition season? Americans' trust in media sinks to an all-time low. Or did it? Actually, there's a big opportunity for content marketers here. TikTok's own research reveals it's hurting kids. What are we going to do about it? And author James Patterson launches a new channel on, of all places, Substack. Winners and losers include Nick Chubb, Apple's killing of social apps and content creator deaths. Rants and raves include Steven Pressfield and an AI article. This week's links: Semrush Acquires Third Door Media Americans' Trust at All-Time Low TikTok's Horrible New Research James Patterson Launches Substack Nick Chubb Tells All Did Apple Kill Social Apps? Content Creator Falls to Death AI Is Going to Kill Advertising ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

Joe and Robert unpack Google's NotebookLM and how the AI audio machine has taken over the internet. Listen to the sample and see if you think it's usable. In other Google news, the DOJ is trying to break up Google into smaller pieces for better competition. This happens at the same time Google is losing its strength in the search market. And someone used Meta's glasses to instantly dox strangers. Should we be scared? Yes...yes we should. Winners and losers include Mountain Dew and Wordpress. Rants and raves include TikTok and CMI's latest benchmark study. This week's links: Google's Notebook LM Google Faces the DOJ Google's Domination as Search Leader Going Away? Meta's Glasses Used to Dox Strangers Mountain Dew's New Brand WordPress Community In Trouble? TikTok Sued Again ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

A special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert answer AI and content marketing questions from some of the world leaders of marketing.  Find your answers to content marketing spending, how AI is affecting content marketing, advice for new marketers, how to handle a personal brand in a business, how much to invest into internal content creators and much, much more. Special thanks to our marketing experts: Drew Davis Katie Brinkley Mark Schaefer Rob LaLacheur Ann Handley Brian Piper Michael Stelzner A. Lee Judge ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Our old friend Leon rolls back another X feature and the haters go crazy. At the same time, X releases their Global Transparency Report (which is anything but transparent). The New York Times unveils a plan to sell audio subscriptions via Apple Music and Spotify. The boys aren't sure the plan has merit (uh, data concerns anyone?). And The Onion creates a membership program with a print newspaper at the center. Joe is very happy about this. Winners and losers include Tim Walz and LinkedIn's AI rollout. Rants and raves include new books from Brian Piper and Pam Didner and a Dreamforce appearance from John Mulaney. ----- This week's links: X and Blocked Users X's Global Transparency Report New York Times to Sell Pod Subs Why the Onion Launched a Membership Program Tim Walz's YouTube Show ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

OpenAI launches the "Strawberry" version within ChatGPT claiming better reasoning and complex thinking. Joe and Robert take it to the test. TikTok heads back to court with a January 19th ban date looming. Joe predicts what will happen. And Instagram launches a version for teens only. Is it enough? Finally, MrBeast "leaks" his personal YouTube production manual. Is there gold within? Winners and losers include Sun Studio and the 2024 Content Marketing Award winner. Rants and raves include MAICON's headsets and CMI's marketing career study. ----- This week's links: OpenAI's Strawberry Is Scary Good at Deception TikTok Goes to Court Inst Launches Teen Accounts MrBeast's Playbook Uncovered MrBeast: How to Succeed at YouTube Playbook ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

In this special episode, Joe and Robert talk about the future of AI in marketing and how each of them use AI for both content creation and marketing ideation. ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Mark Zuckerberg says the Biden Administration pressured Facebook to censor COVID comments while Elon Musk gets X banned in Brazil. In better news, the Kelce brothers land a $100 million dollar deal with Amazon. The boys talk about how the licensing model has changed in just the past two years. Winners and losers include Mammoth Cave National Park and Yelp. Rants and raves include LEGO and Adweek. ----- This week's links: Zuck's Words Against Biden Brazil Bans X Kelce's Deal with Amazon Mammoth Cave on Facebook Yelp's Case Against Google Search Fragmentation on Adweek LEGO's Big Jump ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

We have all the answers for what's going to happen in the NFL this year. This special episode includes: 2024 New Kickoff Rules AFC/NFC Top 4 and Championships Super Bowl and Who Wins Cowboys and Browns Final Records MVP Prediction And a final bet you don't want to miss. ----- This week's sponsor: Get the latest marketing trends in AI today. Download for free at Hubspot.com/ai-marketing. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The boys review how the DNC has courted creators and developed "content moments" that are going viral. Chick-Fil-A just launched a streaming strategy and Procreate vows to never leverage generative AI. Wins and losses include the Savannah Bananas and Snoop Dogg. Rants and raves include Robert's take on DNC creators while Joe talks about the NSYNC and Deadpool integration. ----- This week's links: The DNC Finally "Gets" Content Chick-Fil-A Launches Streaming Service Procreate Says No to Gen AI Snoop & Solo Brands Make Up Bananas Ink TV Deal NSYNC Takes Off w/Deadpool Integration ----- This week's sponsor: Get the latest marketing trends in AI today. Download for free at Hubspot.com/ai-marketing. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

While X continues to sue advertisers and launch products in chaos, Reddit has risen to the top of the social media sandlot (with the help of Google). Winners and losers include Heineken NA and the Queensland Symphony Orchestra. Rants and raves include the Savannah Bananas and surveillance pricing. ----- This week's links: X Calls for Ad Industry Reset Ad Group Dismantles Xai launches Chaotic Image Generator Publishers Flock to Reddit Heineken's Partnership with US Open Tennis Symphony Orchestra's Bad AI Play WTF Is Surveillance Pricing? ----- This week's sponsor: Get the latest marketing trends in AI today. Download for free at Hubspot.com/ai-marketing. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In a desperation move, X decides the best way to get advertisers back to the platform is to sue them. In obvious news, a judge rules that Google is an illegal monopoly. The boys talk about what the repercussions are with this ruling, and what Apple's role will be. Speaking of Google (and X), Google ads seem to be popping up on Elon's platform. Curious indeed. In winners and losers, the Harris campaign is kicking butt on social while the Army fails with The Rock. In rants and raves, Robert changes his mind on the Olympics and Joe thinks the next wave of content marketing is internal creators. ----- This week's links: Google Is a Monopoly X Files Suit Against Advertisers Google Ads End Up on X Kamala Social Media Masterclass The Army Fails with The Rock The Olympics and TikTok ----- This week's sponsor: Get the latest marketing trends in AI today. Download for free at Hubspot.com/ai-marketing. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In this episode the boys cover an incredible content marketing case study in New York's largest hospital system. Reddit is now blocking big search engines who want its unique content...unless they pay up (which they will). And Elon is being Elon, violating his own content policy on X. Here we go again. Hits and misses include Bandit Running and Flavor Flav. Rants and raves include James Patterson and Google's new AI ad. ----- This week's links: Reddit Blocks Search Engines Elon Musk Violates X Policy Northwell Health Content Marketing Studio Bandit's Unsponsored Project Flavor Flav and US Water Polo Google's Dumb AI Ad ----- This week's sponsor: Get the latest marketing trends in AI today. Download for free at Hubspot.com/ai-marketing. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

At long last, Google seems to do a 180 on its third-party cookie policy. What does this mean for marketers and advertisers? META introduces Llama 3 for developers, apparently giving away its AI technology and investment for free. Could this be for real or is it a Zuckerberg trick? And does Spotify use podcasts for loyalty first? Hits and misses include Deadpool and Heinz and Informa's purchase of the Cannes Festival. Rants and raves include British Airways and Field & Stream magazine. ----- This week's links: Google Leaves Cookie Policy Llama 3.1 Launch Spotify's Bet on Podcasts Informa Buys Cannes Heinz Partners with Deadpool Country Music Stars Buy Field & Stream British Airways Flight Video ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

This week Taboola does a big deal with Apple to sell their advertising space. Great for Taboola, but what does this message for Apple? Dax Shepard does an $80 million dollar podcast deal with Amazon. Is Amazon going after Spotify and YouTube for podcast dominance? And CMO's are under huge pressure, as stated by the latest research. Are we actually in a marketing recession? Rants and raves include VidCon Baltimore and StickerMule. ----- This week's links: Ken Griffin Buys Dinosaur Taboola to Sell Apple Ads Dax Shepard Does Deal with Amazon's Wondery CMOs Under Pressure ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Has the content creator/influencer business model gone bearish? Glamour seems to think so. We  disagree. The Paramount/Skydance deal is finally done...we think. Spotify is beginning to court more video podcasts. Is it working in their fight against YouTube? And BusinessWeek has a 120-page print issue on the way. Does this mean a new opportunity in print? Wins and losses include ArtBotAI and Mohawk Chevy. Rants and raves include Trump speaking at the Bitcoin Conference and AI spammers. ----- This week's links: Power Slap and Dana White Paramount Skydance Deal Spotify's Continuing Shift to Video Influencers Aren't Getting Famous Like They Used To BusinessWeek's Print Move Mohawk Chevy on TikTok ArtBotAI Trump to Speak at Bitcoin Conference The Rise of AI Content ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special condensed episode of This Old Marketing. We cover the latest supreme court decision on social media. Good decision or more of the same? And do the brand new rules of marketing and advertising include content marketing? If content marketing becomes marketing, what happens to the discipline? Rants and raves include mxmtoon and research from Meta and Kantar. ----- This week's links: Supreme Court Sends Social Media Back to States Brand New Rules of Advertising mxmtoon Research from Meta and Kantar One Million Checkboxes ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.