Podcast appearances and mentions of joe pulizzi

This is the last special solo episode for a while. Thankfully, Robert and Joe will be back next week to make nonsense about marketing and content news. But today's episode is something a little different. In 1937, Napoleon Hill wrote Think and Grow Rich. His ideas about belief, desire, and persistence changed lives—Joe's included. Joe's new book, Burn the Playbook, is his answer to what Think and Grow Rich would look like today. It's not just about financial wealth...it's about freedom. Mental freedom. Physical health. Time freedom. It's the book Joe wanted his kids to have…the book that they could share with their kids about living a life of purpose. This episode of This Old Marketing is about how to build a platform strong enough to carry the weight of your dreams. Six months ago, Joe was 20 pounds heavier. He felt foggy, sluggish, reactive. He was still productive, sure...but didn't feel sharp. He didn't feel like he was operating at his best. And he decided that wasn't okay anymore. Many of you know this, but Joe's family has a history of Alzheimer's as well. He always thought he was relegated to this fate and there was nothing he could do. Joe's since found there are many things he can do to build a better brain (if you will), so that he can live a better life and be around, in all forms, for his kids and their kids, in addition to living a life of freedom (which we'll discuss). So he made some changes. Not radical ones. Just simple, consistent ones. And Joe wants to share them with you—not as a health expert, but as a creator who realized that if your body and brain break down, your business doesn't stand a chance. Let's get into it.   ----- This week's links: Americans Check Phone 144 Times Per Day The Cost of Multitasking ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

In this solo episode of This Old Marketing, Robert dives headfirst into the uncomfortable - and increasingly urgent - tension at the heart of modern content strategy: Can we still create truly human content, full of nuance, voice, and emotional honesty… while also making sure the machines don't misinterpret (or mangle) what we mean? Inspired by the announced end of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Robert explores how the final stretch of a show - or a career, or even a blog archive - can shape both public perception and machine learning for years to come. This week Robert covers: Why “good” content now means craft, not just output. The shift from writing for search engines to teaching AI what to say about you. The danger (and opportunity) of legacy content becoming training data. A new strategy for structuring content that serves both people and machines. Four practical steps you can take right now to future-proof your brand's voice. Oh - and Joe's out this week, off pitching new names for the Guardians and Commanders to the Trump administration. Don't worry. Robert's got it handled. Tune in, laugh a little, squirm a little, and leave with a renewed sense of purpose—and a checklist. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Get ready for this special episode that you needed to hear years ago. Let me say this plainly: Working for someone else is the riskiest thing you can do right now. For decades, we believed that a "good job" was the ultimate security. A steady paycheck. Healthcare. Maybe a 401(k) with a match. But that model is falling apart in real time. I've seen this from the inside. I've been the employee. I've been the boss. I've been the guy who signed the layoff papers. When I was at Penton we went through three rounds of layoffs in 18 months and it was devastating for everyone involved. And this continues today but at breakneck speed. Here's the truth: no job is safe anymore...especially in marketing. AI is replacing entry-level marketers faster than we can track. Some agencies I know are in desperation mode. The only advice brand marketing teams get is to lean more into AI. Is that even the right strategy? And executive teams still don't understand what content actually does...until they decide it's too expensive (even thought it's not) and cut it. Here's the harsh truth: Most people following the “good job, good life” blueprint are broke, stressed, unfulfilled, and trapped. The old dream isn't dead because people stopped working hard. It's dead because the game changed and nobody updated the playbook. ----- This week's links: Dallas Cowboys NOT America's Team Joe Pulizzi's New Book "Burn the Playbook" Pre-Order ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

From the archive - This episode was originally recorded and published in 2022. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL's in these archive episodes are still relevant. Joe Pulizzi is founder of multiple startups, including content creator education site, The Tilt (TILT coin on Rally.io) and is the bestselling author of seven books including Content Inc. and Epic Content Marketing, which was named a “Must-Read Business Book” by Fortune Magazine. Top 3 Value Bombs 1. You need to teach yourself how to be successful. 2. As a content creator, when you just focus on the platforms you give away all your control, and you are not learning how to build the business as a real entrepreneur. 3. You have to figure out your content tilt, pick a platform, be patient, and move forward. Turning Content Creators into Content - The Tilt Website Sponsors HighLevel - The ultimate all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers, coaches, and agencies. Learn more at HighLevelFire.com. OddsJam - Ready to launch your own sports betting platform? OddsJam's real-time API is trusted by companies big and small. Visit OddsJam.com/odds-api to learn more and talk with their team today. Mention promo FIRENATION to receive an exclusive discount. Public - Build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and more. Go to Public.com/fire to fund your account in five minutes or less. All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US-listed, registered securities, options and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA and SIPC. Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. Cryptocurrency trading services are offered by Bakkt Crypto Solutions, LLC (NMLS ID 1890144), which is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the NYSDFS. Cryptocurrency is highly speculative, involves a high degree of risk, and has the potential for loss of the entire amount of an investment. Cryptocurrency holdings are not protected by the FDIC or SIPC. Alpha is an experimental AI tool powered by GPT-4. Its output may be inaccurate and is not investment advice. Public makes no guarantees about its accuracy or reliability - verify independently before use. Rate as of 6/24/25. APY is variable and subject to change. Terms and Conditions apply.    

This week Robert flies solo (Joe's busy revolutionizing dairy on the blockchain) to ask a question:  What if slower is the new smarter? After riffing on OpenAI's burnout‑induced shutdown, he unveils a sneak peek of his upcoming book, Valuable Friction. From Netflix's “Skip Intro” button to AI‑generated sameness, Robert shows how our obsession with frictionless everything is draining the meaning out of marketing...and life. Tune in for the four kinds of friction that sharpen ideas, deepen relationships, steady operations, and save you from knee‑jerk strategy. No co‑host, no fast‑forward, just 100 percent Robert. Press play, don't skip the intro, and discover why a little resistance might be your brand's unfair advantage. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

After a quick cover of the Cloudflare news where it will be possible to select and make money from AI companies crawling your site, Joe and Robert dive into marketing plan B. Specifically -  The New Normal: Why Everyone Needs a Personal Brand (Even If You're Not Selling Anything) The collapse of the idea that a job = stability. From creators to CMOs: why everyone needs visibility. The difference between self-promotion and self-preservation. Hot take: You're always in stealth mode for your next job (even if you don't know it yet). And...Content as Career Insurance: Best Practices for Building Your Brand What platforms actually matter (and which ones are dead weight)? Where to start? We have the answers in this episode. ----- This week's links: Cloudflare Launches AI Marketplace Paramount Settles Trump Case Joe's Newsletter Post on Freedom ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

AI hits the headlines again. Anthropic wins a lawsuit for its training data procedures, but the judge leaves room for additional lawsuits. In the greater scheme, will any of the lawsuits really matter? John Oliver's AI Slop video is "must-see-TV" and AI content continues to become a bigger part of our lives in content creation and marketing. What do we need to do? And Zohran Mamdani wins the Democratic nomination for mayor in New York, outlasting the big money players through a Gen Z-focused approach. What can we learn from this and will we see more? Winners and losers include Mumford & Sons and Intel dropping marketing as a core function. Rants and raves include Voice of America and the LinkedIn Ballad. ----- This week's links: Anthropic Wins Case AI Slop and John Oliver Mamdani Takes New York Nomination with TikTok VOA's Iran Mess Mumford & Sons Membership Pass Intel Outsources Marketing to Accenture ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

In the world of business, yet again, things looks grim. A brewing trade war, the uncharted fallout of artificial intelligence, and political upheaval around the world... All these factors have created an atmosphere of business uncertainty. Marketing jobs and budgets face the specter of the chopping block once again, and many are taking a "batten down the hatches" approach. But at a time like this, it's important to remember: when everyone else goes quiet, your voice carries that much further. And so in this episode, we're revisiting a pivotal conversation with Joe Pulizzi from the peak of the Covid lockdowns. When uncertainty was at its worst, he shared the story of how he raised the multi-million-dollar brand "Content Marketing Institute" from the ashes of an entrepreneurial venture that failed during the Great Recession. By "going big" on branded media when everyone else went home, that fledgling company changed marketing forever, rebranding the notion of "Content Marketing" and forging a media empire. Pulizzi would go on to launch the "Content Marketing World" conference, write three best-selling books and co-launch “This Old Marketing” the podcast. And his advice will come as a breath of fresh air for communications professionals who are uncertain about what comes after 2025. It certainly did for Dusty in 2020. As he reveals for the first time in this episode, he was close to despair about the future of Podcamp Media when he first had this conversation with Joe. But the interview forced Dusty to take a deep breath, double down on his podcast content marketing strategy, and dig in on making Podcamp Media succeed. And here we are today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Huge research uncovers the obvious. Television and "traditional media" is going obsolete, as social media revenues and watch/listen time dominates. It is indeed the end of the living room. The boys review reports from WPP and NiemenLab. In marketing winners, Terry Moran launches a substack after being fired. But shouldn't he have had one already? Contractual reasons aside, the boys detail a marketing/creator survival plan that's not just a nice to have. Rants and raves include Answer Engine Optimization Hype and the GENIUS act. ----- This week's links: Creators Overtake Traditional Media The Brand/Studio Line Blurs Social Media Overtakes TV Ads on Whatsapp Terry Moran Launches Substack Journalist Survival Plan Genius Act Progress ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

Joe and Robert break down Mary Meeker's "Future of AI" report and discuss the biggest opportunities and threats for marketers and creators in the future. Disney sues Midjourney in yet another lawsuit against AI companies. When will it stop and why should we care? And Meta invests $15 billion more in AI, trying to catch up in the AI race. In winners and losers, Joe discusses how to get found in AI searches and Robert talks about the failed mainstream media with the LA coverage. Rants and raves include a new creator economy lobbying group from MatPat and a boost to musical theater. ----- This week's links: Disney Sues Midjourney The Future of AI Report Meta Makes $15 Billion Bet on AGI How to Get Found in AI Search [Chart] MatPat Starts Creator Caucus Live Theater Gets a Boost ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

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Did someone say McDonald's is bringing back snack wraps? In other news, who knew that artificial intelligence would force brands and publishers toward an indie-creator model? If Google AI is undermining journalism, perhaps the way out is through the individual human creator. In another AI scandal, Builder.ai collapses, even with a large sum of money invested by Microsoft. And Netflix adds advertising to its IP. Good decision? Winners and losers include Ohio Bike Week and ELF/Hailey Bieber. Rants and raves include WaPo's new mission statement and the new NYTimes lawsuit against ChatGPT. ----- This week's links: Google AI Mode Undermining Journalism Builder.ai Collapses Netflix Adds Ad Tech Chain Restaurants Go Nostalgia ELF Buys Rhode WaPo's New Mission Statement ----- This week's sponsor: INBOUND 2025 features an incredible lineup including Amy Poehler, Dario Amodei, Dwarkesh Patel, Sean Evans (Hot Ones), Marques Brownlee, Glennon Doyle, and more. Get actionable insights you can implement immediately to grow your business...San Francisco September 3rd-5th, 2025. Go to inbound.com/register to secure your spot at INBOUND 2025. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.  

AI is again in the headlines this week with Anthropic announcing that its AI will do anything to survive...even bust you for cheating on your wife. AI layoffs are starting to hit home. It's almost to the point that people are being laid off "by" AI itself. Joe and Robert uncover the truth. Rand Fishkin discusses 10 ways to understand no-click search...and it's mostly stuff we can actually do. And long live print, as Microsoft launches a new print publication. Winners and losers include LinkedIn commenting and Duolingo. Rants and raves include the new Bitcoin treasury fad and AI Agent pitch decks. ----- This week's links: Anthropic AI Resorts to Blackmail AI Layoffs Are Here The End of Website Traffic Print is Dead. Long Live Print. Duolingo CEO Retraces AI Announcement Businesses Go On Bitcoin Buying Spree The AI Agent Pitch Deck ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Google's big marketing event was an explosion of AI - a new home screen, more agents, AI video and even smart bidding. Why? Google's main revenue stream (search ads) is in big trouble.  Is Google going the way of the yellow pages? The boys ponder. And Apple is in trouble too. OpenAI buys IO, run by the designer behind the iPhone. It seems that OpenAI is going into the hardware business, with their sights directly on Apple. In other news, a major newspaper releases the books of the year without real books and Netflix steps in to syndicate Sesame Street. Winners and losers include a furniture store and Peloton. Rants and raves include AI use by writers and the idea of growth marketing. ----- This week's links: Google Marketing Live Major Newspaper Creates Fake Books Netflix to Syndicate Sesame Street OpenAI Buys IO Peloton Dumps CMO AI Writing and Author Tribes ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys have finally jumped the shark with this episode. But first, Mark Zuckerberg declares war on the advertising industry. Meta's AI Do-It-Yourself tool will either win big or be fly by night. There is no middle ground. The BBC will push its mission and content into TikTok and Instagram. But is it too late to fight disinformation? Max becomes HBO Max (again). It will be just HBO in 15 to 18 months. Marketing winners are Nutter Butter and Warner Brothers. Rants and commentary include AEO and Sperm Racing (yep...you saw that right). ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg's War on Advertising BBC Boss Goes for Truth Max Rebrands Again Nutter Butter Explodes Warner Brothers and Leveraging IP Weird Sperm Racing AEO Dumb or Crazy Smart ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Brian Piper is an author, speaker, and consultant.  In this episode, returning guest Brian talks about his recent shift into full time consulting, blending his background of content optimization, marketing, and strategy with the opportunities of AI.  We dive deep into building communities and how to be audience-centric, while leveraging AI responsibly to deepen connections.Brian Piper is an author, award-winning international keynote speaker, and consultant. Brian has been optimizing digital content since 1996. He has created online training programs for dozens of companies, including Xerox, L3Harris, IBM, and Volvo, and has spoken at hundreds of conferences and events.Brian has spent the last eight years focusing on data analytics, digital marketing, and content strategy. Since 2021, he has been diving into AI, web3, community building, and the metaverse.Brian wrote Epic Content Marketing for Higher Education and co-authored the second edition of Epic Content Marketing with Joe Pulizzi. He is a contributing author and co-editor of The Most Amazing Marketing Book Ever with Mark Schaefer and a contributing author of The Content Entrepreneur with Joe Pulizzi. Brian was named one of the top higher education marketers to follow in 2023 and 2024.Brian is the host of the AI for U podcast, which focuses on practical AI implementation and use cases in higher education institutions.He is chair of the Marcom AI Committee and a member of the AI Council at the University of Rochester.When he's not creating data visualizations, he teaches wingsuit skydiving and spends time with his wife and six children.AI for U - Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ai-for-u/id1761664650?i=1000664646814To learn more, visit:linkedin.com/in/jason-Shupp-18b4619bListen to more episodes on Mission Matters:https://missionmatters.com/author/Jason-Shupp/

Buckle up! AI is driving now. Zuckerberg at Meta AI doubles down on their cure for loneliness and more friends, but have taken out any sort of safety precautions. We need to be worried. Very worried. Trump wants to tariff the movie business. Tell me exactly how that would work please? And Virginia signs a social media scrolling reduction that won't reduce scrolling. Winners and losers include LEGO and Warren Buffett. Rants and raves include Disney's new park and the White House social media effort. ----- This week's links: Zuckerberg and Meta AI Trump Tariffs and Hollywood Virginia Law on Social Media Warren Buffett Retires LEGO and F1 Racing Trump Social Media Strategy Disney's New Park ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Special episode breaking down the state of content creators, content entrepreneurs and how marketers fit in. Including: The Rise of Creators in 2025 Renting vs. Owning The TikTok Effect Community as Currency Revenue Mix How to Get Rich as a Creator Here's a link to the complete study. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

As Tariffs hang over the US Advertising industry, more companies start to look internal. That means internal communications, internal influencers, owned media and more. Could Trump's Tariffs be a boon for content marketers? Google loses their online advertising monopoly case. The boys put on their prediction hats to let you know what will happen. A judge has blocked the termination of VOA. But is it too late? Joe thinks it is. And Ryan Coogler's movie deal gives marketers and creators a lot to think about. Winners and losers include the American people and Diary of a CEO podcast. Rants and raves include Google's cookies and the uber wealthy. This week's links: Google Loses Case Tariffs Crush Ad Market Judge Blocks VOA Halt Coogler's Movie Deal America Gives Up on Fact Checking DOAC Turns Down Big Deals America's Riches Households Have Banner Year Google Keeps Cookies ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with news that OpenAI (led by Sam Altman) is considering a social media platform that may compete with Elon's Twitter/X. Let's face it...we know what this is really about. Joe and Robert bring it home for you. META's big lawsuit with the FTC gets started. Did Zuckerberg grease the skids enough to get this one through? Creator Economy jobs (aka content marketing) are up, up, up. Why is that? And the top Gen AI use cases don't involve marketing. Marketing winners and losers include databases and Twinkies. Rants and raves include Superman and faith-based billboards. This week's links: META's FTC Case Starts OpenAI to Launch Social Platform? Creator Economy Jobs on the Up Top Gen AI Use Cases Twinkies Goes 420 The Summer of Superman ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Has AI finally killed search? Does Google even matter anymore? Must we now build our content on rented land? The boys go through each of these questions and talk about if "do not build your house on rented land" is still a thing. In other news, the TikTok deal is delayed (again). In marketing winners and losers, Joe takes on the Catholic church while Robert gushes over Duolingo. Rants and raves includes London's takedown of Leon, while the Shopify CEO tells employees to do an AI check. This week's links: Trump Delays TikTok (again) Big Search Shift (Google) Push to Rented Land? Duolingo for the Win Catholic Church Needs a Change Shopify CEO Stokes AI Flames London Taking Down Telsa with Ads ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Possibly our dumbest episode yet. Joe and Robert go deep into the dumbery to try to make sense of an incredibly weird (and dumb) week. TikTok is for sale. No it's not. Maybe it is. Will we know this week? Elon Musk merges his two companies into one, creating the dumbest valuation in the history of corporate mergers. And META's AI steals a bunch of copyrighted books. Heck, they've probably already stolen this podcast. Marketing losers include vibe marketing and Hooters. Raves and commentary include Gartner and Chris Ross and how the tariffs will affect marketing spending. This week's links: Amazon Interested in TikTok TikTok Looming Deadline Elon's Merger Is Dumb META Steals Copyrighted Books Ghibli Effect Takes Over ChatGPT Hooters Bankruptcy Chris Ross from Gartner ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

A very special episode on what makes a successful content marketer or content creator. Robert and Joe talk about what works today to successfully build and monetize an audience with these five keys. 1. For marketers, setting a clear goal up front - sales, savings or sunshine and then find a measurement tool that aligns with current corporate measurement. From the creator side, what's my goal? You exit at the beginning. 2. What's the show for your particular audience AND is it consistent AND is it (or will it be) indispensable? To the point - do I have a tilt that is unique, interesting AND attracts financial support? 3. Build audience like crazy at the start and try not to sell anything...or sell just one thing. Put 1/3 time into the content and two-thirds into promotion. 4. Considering everything, we'd lean toward a video podcast series, which takes advantage of all the social video and the cost effectiveness of podcasts. Then we'd have some kind of email deliverable, at least to get the data...but ultimately a newsletter. 5. Create THE LIST of good and bad things you do/want to do. Develop a stopping list. ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Joe Pulizzi, the "Godfather of Content Marketing," shares how businesses and creators can build sustainable, revenue-generating content brands. From monetization strategies and employee-driven content to the impact of AI on content creation, Joe unpacks what's working today—and what's next for content entrepreneurs.He also explores why most companies underutilize their employees as brand advocates, how to diversify revenue streams, and the biggest missed opportunities in content marketing right now.Conversation points:Why content creators need multiple revenue streams to succeedHow AI is changing content creation and marketing strategyWhy brands should empower employees as content creatorsHow to pivot when your content strategy needs a refreshThe key to sustainable content businesses and personal brandsWhy networking and live events still matter in the digital age A. Lee Judge is the host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform.This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

New data suggests that advertising growth is slowing. Overall marketing is soon to follow. Will the current political environment drive us into a marketing recession? Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei proclaims that AI will take over all coding in the next year. Robert takes offense and the boys talk about the reasons these types of proclamations are made. And is AI slop a brute force attack on the major platforms? The point? AI content is taking over YouTube, TikTok and Facebook and the platforms simply don't care. Marketing losers are Unilever and the NFL. Rants are the AI-ification of press and the killing of Voice of America. This week's links: Ad Growth Slows Anthropic CEO Predicts AI Coding Takeover AI Slop Is Non-Stop Unilever's Big Mistake Adobe and AI Agents The Death of Voice of America ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Joe Pulizzi is an absolute delight (what a treat , what a dream) and the founder of multiple startups including content creator education site, The Tilt,  Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX), and is the bestselling author of seven books including Content Inc. and Epic Content Marketing, which was named a “Must-Read Business Book” by Fortune Magazine.Joe is best known for his work in content marketing, first using the term in 2001, then launching Content Marketing Institute and the Content Marketing World event. In 2014, he received the "Lifetime Achievement Award" by the Content Council. He successfully exited CMI in 2016 and consequently wrote an award-winning mystery novel, The Will to Die.He has two weekly podcasts, the motivational Content Inc. podcast and the award-winning content news and analysis show This Old Marketing with Robert Rose.His foundation, The Orange Effect, delivers speech therapy and technology services to over 400 children in 39 states.Joe and his family live in Cleveland, Ohio. 

The boys are back and the buys are heating up. Food-delivery startup Wonder purchased Tastemade, now boasting content creation to meal preparation to delivery all in one. Is more on the way? We think so. Spotify paid $5 billion dollars to indie creators last year. Is it better to go outside the labels than sign with a big agency? And Unilever ups their social media budget to 30 to 50 percent of total marketing budget...all for targeted local influencers. But did they forget about employees? Marketing winners and losers include Southwest Airlines and CMO tenure. Rants and raves include Substack and shadow AI. This week's links: Spotify Pays the Indies Are Big Music Labels Valuable? Wonder Acquires Tastemade Unilever Doubles Down on Influencers CMO Tenure Study Shadow AI Brands Are Launching Substacks ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gen Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with commentary on the death of media. It's a sad case on both political spectrum. And the opportunity in the future belongs to non-media brands. Let's see what happens. In other news, more and more creators are going full AI. How close is it to real, or does that even matter? Marketing winners and losers include Disney and Trump's Gold card. Rants and raves include travel within the US and Meta testing out agents in advertising. This week's links: The Media's Credibility Has Bottomed Creators Are Now Going Full AI Disney Starts Killing Off News Media Trump's Gold Card Meta Testing AI Agents for Business Ads ----- This week's sponsor: Whether you are swimming in content requests, struggling to reach Gez Z, or just need to do more with less - The 2025 Marketing Trend Report delivers real solutions you can use now. Go to http://clickhubspot.com/marketing to download it for free. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys kick off the show with Dow Jones news and their AI content marketplace of 5,000 publishers. The real news? Vertical content opportunities using proprietary LLMs may ultimately steal the show for B2B content creators. Differentiation is the key coming from B2B speakers at a recent marketing event. The move from company creators to individuals is in full force. And is Substack the new Instagram for smaller creators? Winners and losers include bars in Key West, Levi's and UTC. Rants and raves include MSNBC's big shift, Jeff Bezos, X and Forrester. This week's links: Dow Jones and Content Marketplace B2BMX Speaker Highlights Is Substack the New Instagram? Levi's and Nostalgia UTC Expands Marketing Division Jeff Bezos New WaPo Moves How to Use X Advertising By Forrester ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Reddit announced quarterly results and the stock got hammered. Is Google's changing algorithm to blame? And, if it is, could Google be primed to acquire the 9th largest website on the planet? In other news, episodic video programs and shows are getting more opportunities for syndication. But with so many shows out there, should brands look at partnering with a creator before creating their own content? Winners and losers include Allstate and Kai Cenat. Rants and raves include the Associated Press and Major League Baseball. This week's links: Reddit's Growth Problems Create a Series Is the New Mandate AI and Allstate Kai Cenat to Launch Streaming University MLB Trying Out Robo Umpires The AP and Trump ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Our Super Bowl predictions were dead on, as Joe predicted an Eagles win and Robert predicted a Kendrick Lamar controversy. But more importantly, who were the advertising winners and losers? And...is the Super Bowl the last remaining moment where everyone comes together to watch television at the same time? In other news, BuzzFeed launches a social media network called BF Island. We already predict extinction. And do paywalls work? They do...sort of. Marketing winners include partnerships and ChatGPT. Rants and raves include the end of book blurbs and Welch's content marketing. ----- This week's news links: Big Ratings Win for Super Bowl Super Bowl Ad Winners BuzzFeed Launches Social Media App The Paywall Dilemma OpenAI's Super Bowl Ad Welches Content Marketing The End of Blurbs ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

It's Super Bowl week and the boys make their predictions. Speaking of the Super Bowl, the boys talk about the ads, the value, and what a Super Bowl ad truly costs. And...will there be any winners? Robert does a comparison between OpenAI's deep research and the corresponding Google product. Which one is better and what should marketers do? Winners and losers include Nielsen and Hertz communications. Rants and raves include AMO and Trump Coin. ----- This week's news links: Super Bowl Winners Deep Research Next Big OpenAI Move Influencer Marketing Rises Cable News as We Know It Nielsen Ends Panels Trump Coin Rug Pull ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Man you cappin'. This week, DeepSeek shocks the AI industry (and the world) with its cheaper more efficient model. What comes next for the industry? The buyers line up for TikTok, but is the US Government playing favorites? And Substack is paying cash for TikTok creators to make the switch. Marketing winners include Timothee Chalamet and the TGL golf league. Rants and raves include Chris Sacca (on the Tim Ferriss pod), creating moments, and the return of Nike. ----- This week's news links: The Real DeepSeek Why Is Everyone Freaking Out Over DeepSeek? Trump, TikTok and Socialism White House In Talks with Oracle Substack Paying $20 Million The TGL Golf League Chalamet Goes Gorilla Chris Sacca on Tim Ferriss Nike's Destruction ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys return with a cornucopia of news.  TikTok returns (or did it?). We discuss what is really going on with the Chinese-owned app, whether a US company will buy them, and which one actually will. In other news, Instagram is throwing money at creators (but needs a real model), while META goes from moderated news to community news (but not for ads). In winners and losers, Edelman is out with their Trust Barometer, and Andrew Ross Sorkin has tomorrow's media model. In rants and raves, Anthropic's CEO predicts the future and the only good news coverage of the LA fires was local. ----- This week's news links: The TikTok Ban Update China Comments on TikTok Ownership RedNote Instagram Throws Money Meta Announces Community Notes Meta's Community Notes Don't Include Ads Edelman Trust Barometer Prof G with Andrew Ross Sorkin Inside Anthropic's AI Race ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

Ever wonder why some business books seem to launch their authors into the stratosphere while others collect dust on Amazon? In this episode, I sat down with Joe Pulizzi, the godfather of content marketing, to unpack how you can leverage a book to drive your business forward. Joe shares his proven three-legged stool approach that turns your book into a marketing powerhouse, plus practical tips on how to write it without losing your mind in the process. https://www.theagentsofchange.com/567

In this episode, Lauren & Matt share tips for aspiring public speakers. We talk through presenting your best pitch to event organizers, targeting your ideal audience with your session title and description, and representing yourself with your speaker bio. Dive Deeper

The boys go through six different ways that content marketing professionals can be "content marketing meh" in 2025. They include: Create content on more than three platforms Create content in a highly competitive area Lean heavily into AI tools to create content Put all your influence efforts into finding external influencers and none on building internal influence Focus on making sure your tech stack is bulletproof and pour more time and effort into making things automated Brand Schmand you should really focus on lead gen…. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

META's plan to unleash AI Bots onto their social media sites is just a first step into the majority of the content we engage with being synthetic. The boys have more thoughts on this. How involved will Elon be with TikTok's future? More works are headed to the public domain, including Popeye and TinTin. Is there an opportunity for brands here? Finally, the boys discuss the fastest growing marketing roles. Winners and losers include AI-free and NFL red zone. Rants and raves include the Michael Lewis podcast and Pornhub. ----- This week's links: TikTok's CEO and Elon Talk Popeye and TinTin to Public Domain Meta's Plan to Unleash AI Bots Fastest Growing Marketing Roles Greg Isenberg's AI Predictions NFL Red Zone and Commercials Against the Rules Podcast Pornhub Blocked in South ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

A very special This Old Marketing Predictions' episode. Not only do we cover our 2025 predictions of: Where will Bluesky Be? The Future of X X Buys Truth Social GENAI Stumbles Four (4) Trillion Dollars Companies in 2025 The 2025 Disease We All Saw Coming TikTok Will Not Be Banned The Donald Trump Presidency The Failure of Podcasts But we review our 2024 predictions as well as our NFL season-review predictions. How did we score? Listen to find out. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

As we head into 2025, we look back on the crazy year that was 2024. What did we learn? What were the major marketing and life trends? Topics include: Going after that shiny (AI) object. Podcasts and can they even be successful anymore. Forgiveness in 2024 Forget influencers. Invest in your creators. And many more. You don't want to miss this special episode. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

This week we break down Pew research on the Big Four in social media as it pertains to the youth of America. You may be surprised which four platforms they are...and...are you there? We look at the opportunities and challenges ahead. What are the most overhyped marketing strategies for 2024? I bet you can guess number one. Winners and losers include the Pivot podcast and McKinsey. Rants and raves include the OpenAI Santa and Sesame Street. ------ This week's links: Teen Social Media Research from Pew The Most Overhyped Marketing Strategies of 2024 Content Creators Find a Place in Newsrooms Pivot's New Deal McKinsey Pays OpenAI and Santa Mode MAX Kills Sesame Street ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The first ever This Old Marketing where both Robert and Joe are NOT recording at the same time. If anything, you'll get a kick out of this episode for that reason. TikTok is in the news again. Does the impending ban and their emergency motion mean anything at all? Ad giant Omnicom merges with Interpublic in a $13 billion dollar deal. And OpenAI releases Sora, increasing the fight over generative AI video. Winners and losers include print catalogs and the Starbucks origin story. Rants and raves include an article from The Australian and the idea of change in content marketing. ------ This week's links: TikTok Files Emergency Motion Ad Giant Omnicom's Big Deal OpenAI Releases Sora Print Catalogs on the Rise Il Giornale and Starbucks Mission Letter Can Businesses Build Human-Centric Tech? ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

The boys are back with a regular episode this week! In big social media news, the Australian government plans to ban social media for children 16 or under. Could this actually work or is this a bluff? Black Friday is bigger than ever, with TikTok showing its retail teeth. Could TikTok actually be Amazon's biggest competitor? And Bluesky continues to hit on all cylinders. But will it last? Marketing winners include direct book sales and Jaguar. Rants and raves include ChatGPT for travel and the Elvis documentary. ------ This week's links: Australia to Ban Social Media Black Friday Hits Record Is TikTok Ready to Take on Amazon? What is Bluesky? Hat's off to Jaguar Louis Grenier's Book Launch Plan The Taylor Swift Direct Model ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Another very special episode of This Old Marketing...this time, without Robert Rose. Yes...this episode features Joe Pulizzi talking about unconventional content marketing strategies for 2025. Joe discusses how to leverage ChatGPT for persona building, treating employees as creators, leveraging more email and physical events, a big yes to print and much, much more. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special This Old Marketing podcast episode featuring the one and only Robert Rose (with no Joe Pulizzi).  In this special solo episode, Robert takes a deep dive into the state of marketing as we approach the end of 2024. As marketers, we've spent the last 25 years adapting to paradigm-shifting technologies — from the internet and social media to mobile computing. But now, we're navigating the latest disruptor: Generative AI. Robert explores the concept of "Valuable Friction," the deliberate resistance that slows us down, fostering critical thinking and creativity. In an industry obsessed with efficiency and automation, are we losing the joy and creativity that make marketing truly impactful? This episode challenges the status quo and asks: Are we outsourcing our human spark to technology, or are we using it to amplify our creative potential? ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In this special episode Robert and Joe ask each other four secret questions. The answers will surprise you. The boys cover investing, travel, biggest regrets, bigger dreams and what's next in marketing and beyond. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

The boys do a debrief of why Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris in the 2024 Presidential election. We can talk policies and character, but it's possible the Trump campaign outmarketed Harris. Winners and losers include Goldfish Crackers and the Nomad Capitalist. Rants and raves include ChatGPT Search and the Content Creator/Influencer. ------ This week's links: A Trump Second Term Will Trump Ban TikTok? Goldfish Crackers and Marketing The Nomad Capitalist ChatGPT Search ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A continuing story on the content gaps available in local news. With more people trusting businesses than ever before, could this be the biggest content marketing opportunity in history? In other news, The Washington Post makes a horrible strategic decision to kill endorsements, costing them over 200,000 subscribers. Microsoft, Google and Apple report incredible earnings on the back of AI. And young TikTok influencers are finding it hard to maintain a real life while being an online content creator. Is the worst to come? Winners and losers include Strauss and the Dallas Cowboys. Rants and raves include another newsletter acquisition and ghost jobs. ------ This week's links: Washington Posts Kills Endorsements Local News Content Gap Microsoft Earnings Grow TikTok High School Influencers The NFL Goes Simpsons Strauss Sponsorship with MLB Another Newsletter Acquisition Ghost Jobs ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. With HubSpot, it's never been easier to be a marketer. Create content that breaks through and campaigns that drive revenue.   - Hubspot.com/marketers ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

The boys go deep into CMI's 2025 content marketing research report. While the results look pretty similar to last year's report, Joe and Robert offer some prescriptions for 2025 content marketing strategies, including: Think more local in 2025 Who's your "with"? Paid promotion of content for the win Less is more Time to kill some things Let's get risky in 2025 See the full research here. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to better work. Breeze Intelligence — to give you the richest, most comprehensive picture of your prospects and customers. And reimagined Marketing and Content Hubs — to attract and convert more leads, and send your revenue soaring.  - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.    

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