On Brand with Nick Westergaard

How do brands really live in our minds? According to Ulli Applebaum, it's all about associations — the complex web of meanings and emotions that define how people see your brand. This week on On Brand, the international strategy veteran and author of The Science of Brand Associations shares how we can use science, not guesswork, to build brands that stick. What You'll Learn Why brand associations are the “operating system” that shapes every strong brand How science explains the way memories form—and how marketers can build stronger ones The difference between positive and negative associations (and how to fix the latter) Why distinctiveness and focus matter more than ever for new brands Simple, science-backed tools to audit and strengthen your brand's mental network Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:20) Why no one has written about brand associations—until now (03:40) The brain science behind how brands live in memory (06:20) Brand associations as your brand's operating system (08:00) How associations drive purchase and brand preference (10:20) Managing negative brand associations (14:50) What small brands can do to stand out (23:50) The brand that's made Ulli smile recently Ulli Appelbaum is an internationally recognized brand strategist, consultant, and author with more than 25 years of experience shaping business-building strategies for some of the world's top brands. Before launching his consultancy First The Trousers Then The Shoes, he held senior strategy roles at agencies including BBDO Germany, Leo Burnett Chicago, Fallon Worldwide, and SapientNitro. Ulli's work has earned seven Effies and an ARF Ogilvy Award for Excellence in Research. His latest book, The Science of Brand Associations: Win Minds, Win Markets, is a first-of-its-kind guide to understanding and building the mental networks that make brands thrive. What Brand Has Made Ulli Smile Recently? Ulli chose KitKat — a brand he's admired for decades for its clever, humorous advertising and the enduring “Have a Break” positioning. He recalls a classic British TV spot where a photographer takes a break with a KitKat just as the panda he's waiting to capture starts ice-skating behind him. It's a moment that's stuck in his mind for 25 years — proof, he says, of how powerful brand associations can be. Resources & Links Connect with Ulli on LinkedIn. Check out Ulli's new book, The Science of Brand Associations: Win Minds, Win Markets. You can also download the diagnostic tools we discussed on his website, First the Trousers. Want more of Ulli On Brand? Here's his first visit back in 2023. And, for fun, here's that KitKat ad that was such a powerful brand association for Ulli. Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Geoff Cook's career took off the night he met MoMA's CMO—and helped create the iconic MoMA QNS brand. Since then, he's shaped brands from MILK and NeueHouse to Times Talks, JFK Terminal 4, and the Prince Estate. Partner at Base, mentor at TechStars, and global culture expert, Geoff shares how bold branding can leave a lasting cultural impact. What You'll Learn in This Episode - How a single encounter can launch a career and define a creative trajectory - Why human connection is at the heart of every successful brand experience - The concept of “world-building” in branding and how it fosters community - How to balance AI as a tool without losing creative originality - Key considerations for branding early-stage companies and preserving cash Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:33) Jeff Cook's career breakthrough at MoMA (02:10) Early lessons from DKNY and international branding (04:07) Culture-driven branding from Milk to global institutions (07:40) Translating cultural expertise to JFK Terminal 4 (10:09) World-building brands to foster human connection (12:19) AI in creative work: opportunities and guardrails (20:12) Mentoring early-stage companies and branding pitfalls (26:27) Brands that make Jeff smile About Geoff Cook Geoff Cook's career catapulted on the night he met MoMA's CMO at a Base party in Manhattan, where he discussed developing the institution's new branding for its temporary museum in Queens. The project, MoMA QNS, was the first in a string of iconic brands he has helped to create, including MILK, NeueHouse, JFK Terminal 4, Iconiq, The New York Times' Times Talks & Food Festival, the Prince Estate, and countless others. Geoff approaches branding with a sharp understanding of business strategy and a finger on the pulse of global culture (he speaks four languages and savors local flavor everywhere he travels). As a partner at Base, Geoff asks companies big questions and helps answer them with unexpected, visionary solutions. The result is very often a profound cultural impact. Geoff also puts his branding acumen to use as a mentor at renowned tech accelerator, TechStars, and serves as a board member at Sentral. What Brand Has Made Geoff Smile Recently? Geoff is impressed by On, a Swiss-based athletic brand. He admires how On builds a cohesive, coherent world through product design, store experiences, and creative campaigns that surprise and delight. The combination of Swiss precision and playful, culturally relevant marketing makes On a standout in his eyes. Resources & Links Connect with Geoff on LinkedIn. Check out the Base Design website and Instagram. Here's the Design Week article on AI we discussed. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special bonus episode of On Brand: Taylor's Version, now that The Life of a Showgirl is out in the world, we're asking: what does this new era tell us about Taylor Swift? To explore, I'm joined by Joanna Weiss, editor of Harvard Magazine, journalist, and co-author of Taylor Swift: Album by Album, a deep dive into every era. Together, we'll unpack how Showgirl fits into Taylor's evolution and what this chapter reveals about her storytelling, strategy, and brand. What You'll Learn in This Episode How Life of a Showgirl fits into Taylor Swift's evolution as an artist and storyteller Why some fans are divided on this album — and what that says about the expectations Taylor sets with each new era How Taylor balances real-life inspiration with fiction and character-driven songwriting What her creative process and relentless work ethic reveal about brand storytelling and reinvention Why Taylor's storytelling genius is as much about community and connection as it is about the music Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:47) Welcome Joanna Weiss (04:24) How the book Taylor Swift: Album by Album came together (07:02) Early takes on Life of a Showgirl (11:04) What makes an “era” — and how Showgirl fits in (19:18) What Taylor's saying with this album (25:23) Her creative process and work ethic (30:37) Money, power, and independence (33:20) The Taylor song that makes Joanna smile About Joanna Weiss Joanna Weiss is the editor of Harvard Magazine, a contributing writer for Politico Magazine, and a former columnist for The Boston Globe. Her work has appeared in The Atlantic, Slate, The Economist, and many other outlets. After chronicling her own Eras Tour experience for Boston's NPR affiliate WBUR, Joanna dove deeper into the Swiftiverse as co-author of Taylor Swift: Album by Album (Quarto Books), which explores each of Taylor's eras in detail. In addition to her journalism career, Joanna fronts a rock band she formed with five fellow moms — a story captured in her Boston Magazine feature “For Those Moms About to Rock,” now optioned for film by 20th Century Studios. What Taylor Era Has Made Joanna Smile Recently? When asked which Taylor song or era makes her smile, Joanna picked “Love Story.” Despite everything that has come since, she still returns to that song for its sheer emotional clarity — a bedroom-written, 20-minute burst of teenage storytelling that still captures the universal thrill of hope, love, and happily-ever-after energy that defines so much of Taylor's work. Resources & Links Connect with Joanna on LinkedIn and her website Check out her new book, Taylor Swift: Album by Album Listen and Support Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What makes a brand unforgettable instead of overlooked? Tom Miner knows. As Head of Global Social Media at Crocs, he helped drive one of today's biggest brand turnarounds. Now author of Social First Brands, Tom shares how embracing productive tension, making personality your secret weapon, and riding trends that matter can turn comments into real community. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why Crocs' turnaround shows the power of leaning into brand polarity How to know if brand tension is productive instead of problematic What it really means to be a “social first” brand—and why fearlessness is key Why unhinged marketing works for some brands and flops for others The difference between comments, engagement, and true community Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:35) Welcome to Tom Miner (01:22) Crocs as a brand turnaround case study (04:41) Embracing polarity and productive tension (09:08) What it means to be a social first brand (13:21) Fearlessness and comfort levels in social strategy (15:32) Unhinged marketing and authentic brand personality (18:18) Comments versus true community (22:43) Liquid Death as a social first example (25:10) The brand that made Tom smile (27:10) Where to learn more About Tom Miner Tom Miner is a social media strategist and the author of Social First Brands. As the former Head of Global Social Media at Crocs, Tom helped lead one of the most remarkable brand turnarounds in recent years, taking the shoe from internet punchline to cultural icon. Based in Denver, Tom now consults with organizations worldwide—from household consumer names to international B2B enterprises—helping brands move beyond chasing trends to creating genuine, lasting connections with their audiences. What Brand Has Made Tom Smile Recently? Recently, Tom found himself impressed by PopSockets. Long known for their stick-on phone grips, the brand has reinvented itself with MagSafe-compatible products and a renewed sense of fun on social media. A standout moment was a TikTok reaction video where the founder surprised a customer who lost her phone in the ocean. The mix of humor, generosity, and leadership buy-in reminded Tom why surprise-and-delight marketing still matters. Resources & Links Connect with Tom on LinkedIn. Learn more about Tom Miner. Check out Social First Brands on Amazon. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of On Brand: Taylor's Version, we're joined by Ann Handley — Wall Street Journal bestselling author, Chief Content Officer of MarketingProfs, and one of IBM's ‘7 people shaping modern marketing.' Ann brings not just her marketer's eye but also her mom's heart to the Swiftiverse. We'll explore how Taylor's storytelling fuels parasocial relationships, why The Eras Tour transformed casual fans into rabid ones, and what smart marketers can learn from the savviest hitmaker of our time. What You'll Learn in This Episode How Taylor Swift's storytelling makes the personal feel universal—and what marketers can borrow from that. Why parasocial relationships don't have to be clinical, and how Taylor transforms them into community. The genius of anticipation, reveals, and Easter eggs in building long-term fan trust. What the Eras Tour can teach marketers about creating inclusive, unforgettable experiences. How Ann Handley's own fandom grew from casual listener to full-on Swiftie devotion. Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:20) Swiftie Story Prompts and the Tortured Poets Era (03:14) Standing Up as a Swiftie (05:40) Taylor as Writer, Storyteller, and Cultural Icon (08:07) Making the Personal Universal (11:00) Marketing Lessons from Taylor Swift (19:25) The Eras Tour as Community Experience (29:41) The Taylor Songs and Albums That Make Ann Smile About Ann Handley Ann Handley is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author, digital marketing pioneer, and Chief Content Officer at MarketingProfs. Named by IBM as one of seven people shaping modern marketing, Ann is a trusted voice on content, storytelling, and building authentic connections with audiences. She is the author of Everybody Writes, now in its second edition, and a frequent keynote speaker at marketing and business events worldwide. Through her popular newsletter, Total Annarchy, and her leadership at MarketingProfs' B2B Forum, she continues to inspire marketers to approach their work with clarity, creativity, and heart. What Taylor Era Has Made Ann Smile Recently? Ann lights up when she talks about Taylor Swift's most recent projects—The Tortured Poets Department and Midnights. She especially loves “Fortnight,” with its Post Malone collaboration and typewriter aesthetics (a nod to her own collection of typewriters), and “Mastermind” from Midnights, which she admires for its playful storytelling. For Ann, these albums are on constant repeat, blending artistry, narrative, and joy in ways that fuel both her fandom and her creative spirit. Links & Resources Connect with Ann on LinkedIn Check out her website and newsletter Speaking of connecting with community, don't miss the MarketingProfs B2B Forum Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Few business thinkers have shaped customer experience and marketing as profoundly as Jay Baer. A 7th-generation entrepreneur, best-selling author, and creator of six multi-million-dollar companies, he's helped more than 700 brands, from Nike to the United Nations, grow and connect with customers in ways that matter. Now, he's challenging everything marketers think they know about “owned” digital land, AI, and the future of content strategy. What You'll Learn Why the old rule of “never build on rented land” may be past its prime How AI is shifting marketers from search optimization to answer optimization Why breadth of authority matters more than backlinks in today's landscape How to atomize your awareness across platforms and nodes of trust What AI can and can't replace when it comes to creativity and customer experience Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:47) Welcoming Jay Baer back to On Brand (02:26) A dramatic reading of “Never build your house on rented land” (05:17) The declining importance of websites in an AI world (06:00) From search optimization to answer optimization (08:38) Atomizing awareness and saying yes to more opportunities (14:13) What AI can't do—and why bold ideas matter more than ever (17:36) Customer experience, hyper-personalization, and efficiency gains (22:19) What to do with the capacity AI creates (23:29) Personal branding, tequila, and why authenticity wins (27:19) The AI dating app that made Jay smile (29:57) Where to find Jay online About Jay Baer Jay Baer is a business growth and customer experience strategist, author, and advisor who has helped more than 700 brands, including Nike, Oracle, IBM, and the United Nations. A seventh-generation entrepreneur, he has built six multimillion-dollar companies and written seven best-selling business books, earning recognition as a Professional Speakers Hall of Fame inductee and a Global Guru in marketing and customer experience. Beyond the stage and boardroom, Baer is also the world's second most-popular tequila educator, blending sharp business insight with an engaging style that makes him one of the most sought-after voices in modern marketing. What Brand Has Made Jay Smile Recently Jay pointed to Valor, an AI-driven dating app that runs simulated dates between AI versions of potential matches before introducing people in real life. While he's not on the app himself—he just celebrated his 33rd wedding anniversary—Jay says the concept makes him smile because it cleverly uses AI to cut through the awkwardness and false starts of early dating. Resources & Links Connect with Jay on LinkedIn. Check out his website JayBaer.com. And, of course, check out his work as the second-most popular tequila educator on Instagram. Listen and Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of On Brand Taylor's Version, we're joined by Stephanie Burt, poet, critic, and professor of English at Harvard University. Stephanie made headlines when she created and taught one of the very first college courses on Taylor Swift at Harvard, Taylor Swift and her world. We discuss what it means to study Taylor seriously at Harvard, why her storytelling resonates so widely, and what we can all learn from her profound cultural impact. What You'll Learn in This Episode How Taylor Swift's approach to storytelling parallels the way we relate to literature and life, making her English-teacher-like to her fans The narrative techniques and structural choices that make her songwriting resonate across diverse audiences How she revisits, rewrites, and evolves previous stories in her music to deepen character and theme The role of collaboration, marketing, and audience awareness in building a fan community that scales from niche to mainstream How joy, friendship, and shared experiences are expressed in her music, and why songs like 22 continue to resonate Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:12) Taylor Swift as an English Teacher: Literary Language and Fan Connection (05:30) Building Fan Communities and Shared Experiences (10:22) Storytelling Techniques: Point of View, Character, and Rewriting Songs (18:10) Revisiting and Evolving Previous Stories: Love Story and Forever & Always (25:12) Adult Love, Partnership, and Feminist Storytelling (32:01) Niche Fan Communities, Mainstream Appeal, and Marketing Savvy (38:22) Collaboration and Craft: Working with Musicians and Audiences (40:01) Guest's Favorite Taylor Song: 22 and Closing Thoughts About Stephanie Burt Stephanie Burt is the Donald P. and Katherine B. Loker Professor of English at Harvard University. She specializes in 20th- and 21st-century poetry, science fiction, and the intersections of literature with other arts. Her work has appeared in The New York Times Book Review, The London Review of Books, Slate, and The Times Literary Supplement. Burt is the author of several acclaimed books of poetry and literary criticism, and her upcoming book, Taylor's Version: The Poetic and Musical Genius of Taylor Swift, explores the artistry and cultural impact of Taylor Swift. At Harvard, she teaches courses including “Taylor Swift and Her World,” which has drawn widespread attention for its innovative exploration of music, poetry, and popular culture. She currently serves as co-editor of poetry for The Nation and is a recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship. Resources & Links Check out Stephanie's new book Taylor's Version: https://www.amazon.com/Taylors-Version-Poetic-Musical-Genius/dp/154160623X/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0 Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-brand-podcast-about-branding/id1113563080?mt=2 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/2Hq9fjctcpm3YKlJFuXmRk YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/onbrandpodcast Amazon/Audible → https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/7f4fb055-1584-4037-a637-305c9b82ac3c/on-brand-with-nick-westergaard?refMarker=dm_wcp_af_r&ref=dmm_acq_mrn_d_ds_rh_z_-c_c_539036640611_g_127821134784 Google Play → https://play.google.com/music/listen#/ps/I6xnjeogoyostq7pyu3xh3kqi4a Stitcher → https://www.stitcher.com/show/on-brand-with-nick-westergaard TuneIn → https://tunein.com/radio/On-Brand-p967623/ iHeart → https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-on-brand-with-nick-westerg-90019102/ Rate and review on Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-brand-podcast-about-branding/id1113563080?mt=2 Rate and review on Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/2Hq9fjctcpm3YKlJFuXmRk Share this episode — email a friend or colleague → mailto:?subject=Check%20out%20this%20podcast%20episode&body=I%20thought%20you%20might%20like%20this%20podcast Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter → https://www.nickwestergaard.com/email/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do Hot Wheels, Disney, Burton, and WWE have in common? They've all had Mark Michaylira driving their brand forward. With two decades of creative leadership behind some of the world's most beloved names, Mark knows how to make work that's not just bold and joyful but rooted in culture—and powerful enough to move business. What You'll Learn in This Episode - How to build authentic brands by starting with humanity and understanding your audience - Why taking creative risks—and even failing—can move brands forward - What it means to create joy and edge in storytelling across very different industries - How Friends Everywhere is rethinking the agency model with cultural insiders and seasoned creators - The role of AI as a creative tool and why transparency matters in its use Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:35) Starting with humanity in brand building (03:15) Lessons from Cracker Barrel and Gap missteps (05:55) Leading creative teams through swings and misses (09:30) Creating joy and edge across brands like Hot Wheels, Disney, Burton, and WWE (12:18) The Friends Everywhere model of cultural insiders and seasoned creators (16:38) The role of AI as a creative tool, not a replacement (22:12) Advice for emerging creatives (24:31) The brand that's made Mark smile About Mark Michaylira Mark Michaylira is Creative Director at Friends Everywhere, where he also leads agency growth for the independent partner to visionary teams building beloved brands. He previously led Global Brand Creative for Mattel's vehicle portfolio, including Hot Wheels, Matchbox, and Disney Pixar Cars, overseeing disruptive, culture-driven campaigns for some of the world's biggest toy brands. Earlier in his career, he built creative for Burton Snowboards, Disney, WWE, DreamWorks, Warner Bros., and Levi's. With more than two decades of experience across creative direction, brand strategy, experience design, and integrated campaigns, Michaylira has shaped work that blends bold ideas with business impact. He is based in Long Beach, California. What Brand Has Made Mark Smile Recently? Mark shared Bug Assault, a quirky brand that sells salt-powered fly blasters. What made him smile wasn't just the product—it was how the brand solved a real problem with humor, storytelling, and an unexpected creative twist. Their branding struck the right balance of playful and educational, proving that even pest control can be memorable when approached with imagination. Resources & Links Connect with Mark on LinkedIn → Friends Everywhere website → Bug Assault website → Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of On Brand: Taylor's Version, we're joined by Emily Campion — Henry B. Tippie Fellow and Associate Professor at the University of Iowa's Tippie College of Business. Emily's research explores how organizations hire and develop talent. But today, she's here to talk about something decidedly more human: Taylor Swift's relentless work ethic, authentic leadership, grit in the face of setbacks, and her ability to balance it all with self-care. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why Taylor Swift is the ultimate case study in relentless work ethic and focus How authenticity fuels leadership and builds trust with fans — and employees What Taylor's grit teaches us about resilience, reinvention, and leading through setbacks The role of self-care in sustaining high performance over the long haul Why leaders need to balance hustle with humanity Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (02:15) “Taylor Inc.” and the ultimate one-person company (04:40) Emily Campion on studying work ethic and leadership through Taylor Swift (08:30) Taylor's relentless productivity and lessons for business leaders (14:05) Authenticity as strategy vs. sincerity (19:20) Grit, comebacks, and leading through setbacks (25:45) Boundaries, rituals, and Taylor's approach to self-care (32:10) Leadership lessons leaders can apply today (38:15) Emily's Taylor smile: Stay Stay Stay on ukulele About Emily Campion Emily Campion is a Henry B. Tippie Fellow and Associate Professor at the University of Iowa's Tippie College of Business. Her research focuses on staffing procedures, the use of machine learning and natural language processing to improve these systems, and ways to mitigate employment discrimination. Her work has been published in leading academic journals, and she currently serves on the editorial boards of Journal of Applied Psychology and Personnel Psychology, where she recently co-edited a special issue on machine learning in selection. What Taylor Era Has Made Emily Smile Recently? For Emily, the Taylor song that's made her smile recently is “Stay Stay Stay” from Red (Taylor's Version). She first loved it while learning the ukulele, and even though she jokes she won't be a famous ukuleleist, the song's plucky energy and Taylor's laugh at the end never fail to make her beam. Resources & Links Connect with Emily on LinkedIn. Check out Emily's University of Iowa faculty page. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Few platforms have changed culture as quickly—or as globally—as TikTok. Khartoon Weiss, VP and GM of North America and Global Business Solutions, is at the center of it, helping brands and businesses connect with audiences in ways that are creative, authentic, and impactful. From scaling Spotify to leading top agencies, she's built a career on turning bold ideas into cultural movements—and now she's shaping the future of TikTok. What You'll Learn in This Episode How TikTok has broken the traditional brand storytelling arc Why authenticity and “real production” outperform polish on the platform How content, commerce, and search converge on TikTok Why short form content can still drive loyalty and long-term brand love What brands like Chipotle, McDonald's, and Gap are doing right on TikTok Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:38) Why TikTok has changed brand building (02:12) Stewarding TikTok's brand and helping other brands grow (03:34) Unlearning traditional storytelling on TikTok (06:01) Authenticity over polish with examples from Chipotle and McDonald's (10:20) Content, commerce, and the rise of search on TikTok (14:04) Can short form content build brand loyalty (21:08) Brand safety, trust, and TikTok's uncertain future (24:48) Lessons from scaling brands at Spotify, agencies, and TikTok (27:09) The that made Khartoon smile recently About Khartoon Weiss Khartoon Weiss is the VP and GM of North America and Global Business Solutions at TikTok. She previously led global revenue at Spotify, served as Chief Marketing Officer and Managing Director at MDC Partners and Mediacom North America, and was a VP at iHeartMedia. She began her career at BBDO, Ogilvy, and Grey Worldwide. Weiss has been recognized by Campaign's “40 Over 40,” AdAge's “40 Under 40,” and AdWeek's “Top 50.” She completed executive education at The Wharton School and lives in New York City with her husband and two rescued cats. What Brand Has Made Khartoon Smile Recently? Khartoon pointed to Gap as the brand making her smile lately. She praised the retailer for collaborating authentically with creators, staying true to its roots, and showing up on TikTok in ways that feel natural and culturally relevant. For her, Gap's bravery and creativity prove that when brands lean into community and culture authentically, audiences instantly recognize it—even without the logo. Resources & Links Connect with Khartoon on LinkedIn. Learn more about TikTok for Business. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In our first episode of On Brand: Taylor's Version, we're joined by Sinéad O'Sullivan — aerospace engineer turned business strategist, former head of Strategy at Harvard Business School, professor, and co-founder of a global investment fund. She's advised everyone from NASA to prime ministers … and she also happens to be in the top 0.01% of Taylor Swift fans worldwide. Her new book, Good Ideas and Power Moves: Business Lessons from Taylor Swift, hits shelves this week — and she's here to share why Taylor isn't just a pop star, but one of the sharpest strategists of our time. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why “doing strategy” is more than PowerPoints and wish lists How Taylor Swift creates interlinked universes across her albums What it means to be anti-fragile and thrive in chaotic environments How storytelling can be leveraged as a business strategy Why Taylor Swift is her own product and outperforms traditional companies Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:00) Getting Started with Taylor's Version (01:35) Reputation Era Story Prompt and Misunderstandings (03:40) Doing Strategy the Taylor Way (08:10) Building Worlds Not Products (12:30) Lessons for Brands and Community (17:50) Fearless Era Story Prompt and Courage (24:20) Anti-Fragile Moves and Thriving in Chaos (28:10) Timing, Reverse Acquisitions, and Big Picture Strategy (38:30) Where to Connect with Sinéad About Sinéad O'Sullivan Sinéad O'Sullivan is an aerospace engineer turned business strategist, former head of strategy at Harvard Business School, professor, writer, and co-founder of a global investment fund. She has advised organizations from NASA to prime ministers and is the author of Good Ideas and Power Moves: Business Lessons from Taylor Swift. O'Sullivan has a BA in engineering, an MSc in finance, and a PhD in strategy. What Brand Has Made Sinéad Smile Recently? Sinéad shared that she's been smiling at the creative universe built around Barbie. From specialty cars to Airbnbs, the way Barbie has expanded into a full cultural ecosystem reminded her of the worlds Taylor Swift builds with her albums—demonstrating creativity, collaboration, and clever brand storytelling. Resources & Links Connect with Sinéad on LinkedIn. Sinéad's website. Sinéad's Substack. Sinéad's new book, Good Ideas and Power Moves: Ten Lessons for Success from Taylor Swift. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What makes an idea—or a person—truly remarkable? Guy Kawasaki has spent decades evangelizing some of the world's most influential brands—from Apple to Canva—and helping ideas spread in ways that stick. In his new book, Wiser Guy, he shares the lessons, stories, and wisdom he's gathered along the way, showing how to think remarkable, lead with purpose, and make an impact that lasts. What You'll Learn in This Episode - Why Wiser Guy isn't a memoir and what it is instead - The surprising truth behind Guy's decision to publish this book with a traditional house - How evangelism has evolved from Apple's Macintosh launch to Canva today - Why democratizing technology matters—and where AI fits into that story - The timeless wisdom Guy believes we shouldn't wait too long to share Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:36) Welcoming Guy Kawasaki back to On Brand (03:08) Why Wiser Guy is not a memoir (05:08) From self-publishing advocate to Wiley author (10:45) Stories and lessons that rose to the top (15:12) Evangelism past and present (20:03) Is AI truly democratizing technology (27:02) A brand that's made Guy smile recently (32:21) Where to learn more and closing gratitude About Guy Kawasaki Guy Kawasaki is the chief evangelist of Canva and the creator of Guy Kawasaki's Remarkable People podcast. He is an executive fellow of the Haas School of Business (UC Berkeley), and an adjunct professor of the University of New South Wales. He was the chief evangelist of Apple and a trustee of the Wikimedia Foundation. He has written Wise Guy, The Art of the Start 2.0, The Art of Social Media, Enchantment, and eleven other books. Kawasaki has a BA from Stanford University, an MBA from UCLA, and an honorary doctorate from Babson College. What Brand Has Made Guy Smile Recently? Guy shared that Liquid Death has been making him smile. Beyond simply selling water in a can, the brand has built a bold, countercultural identity around “killing thirst.” Guy admires how they've created something fun and meaningful while inspiring him to craft his own marketing mantra, “kill mediocrity.” Resources & Links Connect with Guy on LinkedIn. Guy Kawasaki's website. Wiser Guy on Amazon. Remarkable People podcast. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-brand-podcast-about-branding/id1113563080?mt=2 Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/2Hq9fjctcpm3YKlJFuXmRk YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/onbrandpodcast Amazon/Audible → https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/7f4fb055-1584-4037-a637-305c9b82ac3c/on-brand-with-nick-westergaard?refMarker=dm_wcp_af_r&ref=dmm_acq_mrn_d_ds_rh_z_-c_c_539036640611_g_127821134784 Google Play → https://play.google.com/music/listen#/ps/I6xnjeogoyostq7pyu3xh3kqi4a Stitcher → https://www.stitcher.com/show/on-brand-with-nick-westergaard TuneIn → https://tunein.com/radio/On-Brand-p967623/ iHeart → https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-on-brand-with-nick-westerg-90019102/ Rate and review on Apple Podcasts → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-brand-podcast-about-branding/id1113563080?mt=2 Rate and review on Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/2Hq9fjctcpm3YKlJFuXmRk Share this episode — email a friend or colleague → mailto:?subject=Check%20out%20this%20podcast%20episode&body=I%20thought%20you%20might%20like%20this%20podcast Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter → https://www.nickwestergaard.com/email/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Brand: Taylor's Version is a 4-episode mini-series exploring Taylor Swift's brand brilliance — from storytelling and community to cultural hitmaking and reinvention. Guests include bestselling authors, top CMOs, and academic experts who break down what businesses and leaders can learn from the world's ultimate hitmaker. New bonus episodes drop every Thursday through October 2nd, leading up to the release of The Life of a Showgirl.

What makes a brand experience unforgettable? Laura Parkinson, Global Head of Brand Experience at LinkedIn, has created standout experiences at Apple, Google, and now LinkedIn. She leads the team behind the company's most influential moments—online and in person—and knows how to turn bold ideas into connections that inspire and stick. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why the most iconic brands focus on making people feel something, not just showing up consistently How LinkedIn uses experiences as a marketing channel to launch products and connect with audiences What it takes to scale brand experience inside a large organization while keeping it authentic Why in-person and digital experiences need to work together for a seamless brand presence How cultural moments and team culture fuel creative, “magical” brand experiences Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (00:31) Laura's path into brand experience from SXSW to Apple and Google (02:00) Lessons from Apple on intuitive, human-centered experiences (04:20) Making digital brands tangible through real-life experiences (05:26) The role of brand experience at LinkedIn (07:10) Scaling brand experience across a large organization (10:23) Measuring success in brand experiences (13:12) Designing consistent yet localized global experiences (17:05) How AI is reshaping brand experiences (21:18) Building teams that deliver magical experiences (23:18) A brand that's made Laura smile recently (25:16) Where to connect with Laura About Laura Parkinson Laura Parkinson is the Global Head of Brand Experience at LinkedIn. She specializes in brand marketing events and experiences for global organizations across consumer products, retail, entertainment, technology, and SaaS. Laura brings bold visions to life through strategic thinking and deep operational expertise, having created and managed internal and external programs from concept to completion. She is passionate about building and supporting teams that imagine and deliver magical brand experiences that drive both market and mind share. What Brand Has Made Laura Smile Recently? The brand that's made Laura smile recently is Build-A-Bear. Beyond its surging stock price, she admires how the company creates magical in-store experiences that resonate with everyone—from kids to adults. With plans to expand dozens of new locations, Build-A-Bear shows the power and value of real-life, experiential branding. Resources & Links Connect with Laura on (surprise!) LinkedIn. Listen & Support the Show Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when the women who helped build Microsoft finally get their story told? In her new book, The Women of Microsoft, Miri Rodriguez—Senior Storyteller at Microsoft, CEO of Empressa.ai, and award-winning author—spotlights the pioneers who shaped both the company and the future of tech. Along the way, she shares powerful insights on storytelling, leadership, and how empathy and purpose can transform the way we work. What You'll Learn in This Episode How the new book, The Women of Microsoft, came together in honor of Microsoft's 50th anniversary Stories of resilience, leadership, and innovation from women who shaped Microsoft over five decades Why telling both the highs and lows of women's experiences in tech matters Practical lessons for women navigating promotions, resilience, and confidence in today's workplace How empathy, compassion, and inclusion can shape the future of work—especially in the era of AI Episode Chapters (00:00) Intro (01:09) How the book began (02:43) The mission behind The Women of Microsoft (04:33) Surprising and moving stories (06:35) Women's impact on Microsoft's innovations (09:10) Balancing celebration and hard truths (12:11) Lessons for women navigating tech today (19:14) The code of confidence and future generations (20:42) AI, Empressa.ai, and the future of work (26:35) A brand that made Miri smile Miri Rodriguez is the CEO of Empressa.ai, a groundbreaking AI company reshaping the future of work for women, and serves as Senior Storyteller at Microsoft, where she crafts narratives that resonate globally. An award-winning author of Brand Storytelling—translated into four languages—Miri is also a sought-after speaker and consultant known for her empathetic, purpose-driven approach. Beyond her professional work, she champions social advocacy by training leaders of social enterprises in Africa, mentoring students and professionals in the U.S., and sharing mindfulness and happiness through her platform Be Mindful Be Happy. Her global travels with her husband fuel both her storytelling and her belief in the power of human experience and technology to transform lives. What Brand Has Made Miri Smile Recently? Miri shared how the shoe brand Mephisto recently made her smile. While traveling in Spain, she rediscovered the brand her father had once introduced to her as a teenager. A local store gave her an unexpectedly personal, “white glove” experience—handwritten receipts, phone calls to the manufacturer, and even custom colors. For Miri, it was a powerful reminder that personal treatment and genuine customer care still win, even in a world dominated by mass retail. Links Connect with Miri on LinkedIn, Instagram, and her website. Check out her new book, The Women of Microsoft: Empowering Stories from the Minds that Coded the World. Watch or listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, and iHeart. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to help others find the show. Share this episode — email a friend or colleague this episode. Sign up for my free Story Strategies newsletter for branding and storytelling tips. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How did Google become one of the most powerful forces in advertising—and what happens when that power crosses the line? Ari Paparo, ad tech veteran, Marketecture founder, and author of Yield: How Google Bought, Built, and Bullied Its Way to Advertising Dominance, takes us inside the deals, innovations, and strong-arm tactics that reshaped the industry. From behind-the-scenes stories of the “Rocket Docket” antitrust trial to the coming AI disruption of search, Ari shares candid insights on market dominance, branding, and the future of digital advertising. How Google bought, built, and bullied its way to dominance in the ad tech industry — and why multiple governments have called its behavior monopolistic What happened inside the Virginia “Rocket Docket” antitrust trial that inspired Ari's book Yield, including behind-the-scenes stories from the courtroom How Google's market power has steamrolled smaller ad tech companies and shaped the open web — and what might change if regulators break it up Why AI and large language models could disrupt Google's search dominance for the first time in decades, reshaping SEO, SEM, and marketing strategy The branding lesson Ari took from clothing retailer Buck Mason — and why a perfectly on-the-nose brand experience can leave a lasting impression Ari Paparo began his career in digital advertising during the early days of the internet and went on to shape how online ads work today. He has led product teams at AppNexus and Bazaarvoice, helped create industry standards including the VAST video specification and Nielsen's Digital Ad Ratings, and founded the media company Marketecture to make sense of the complex ad tech world. A sought-after speaker and host of the Marketecture podcast, Ari is also the author of Yield: How Google Bought, Built, and Bullied Its Way to Advertising Dominance, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the rise of one of the most powerful forces in technology. Ari pointed to Buck Mason—a clothing store he stumbled into with his wife in New York. Despite describing himself as “not a big clothes person” who usually dresses like a slob, he was struck by how perfectly the brand nailed its vibe: black T-shirts, a classic car parked in the middle of the store, art books casually scattered yet deliberately placed, and even a liquor bar to loosen wallets. Founded less than a decade ago in Venice Beach, Buck Mason impressed Ari as a masterclass in creating a brand experience so spot-on it feels like it was built in a lab for its ideal customer. Connect with Ari on LinkedIn and the Marketecture website. Check out his new book, Yield: How Google Bought, Built, and Bullied Its Way to Advertising Dominance. Go down the internet rabbit hole on Ari's Adland.tv — home to 80,000+ vintage TV ads. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! (00:00) Intro (00:29) Ari's background in ad tech and industry standards (01:20) Breaking down Google's strategy: bought, built, bullied (03:08) Conflicts of interest and antitrust cases against Google (05:10) Covering the “Rocket Docket” trial and stories from the courtroom (06:32) The impact of Google's dominance on smaller ad tech companies (08:02) What might change if regulators break up Google (12:01) Google's brand halo vs. behind-the-scenes behavior (16:12) Privacy, third-party cookies, and regulatory pressures (19:00) AI disruption and the future of search (21:08) Marketing implications: SEO, SEM, and influencer marketing (23:01) The buzzword Ari is tired of hearing (24:52) The brand that made Ari smile: Buck Mason (26:20) Where to learn more about Ari and Marketecture (27:32) Closing remarks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Noel Massie is the former Vice President of U.S. Operations at UPS and author of the new book Congrats, You've Been Promoted. Over a decades-long career, Noel rose from part-time college employee to leading 200,000 people with a focus on values-based leadership. Today, he mentors rising leaders and serves on the boards of organizations like the Annenberg Foundation and the Los Angeles Urban League. We talked about leadership at scale, navigating promotions, and building a career that makes an impact—this week on the On Brand podcast. Noel Massie began working for UPS part-time during college and rose through the ranks to become vice president for UPS's US Delivery Operations. Before his retirement in 2019, he oversaw 200,000 employees who were led by 12,000 supervisors. In this role, Noel supported and guided the package delivery and logistic services in the United States. He continues to mentor young leaders and supervisors. Noel is currently a member of numerous boards: the Annenberg Foundation, which holds a $1.7 billion endowment and where Noel serves on their investment committee that guides the foundation's investment strategy; the Los Angeles Urban Leagues Executive Committee, where Noel served as chairman for nine years; Chapter ONE US, an organization that seeks to enhance elementary school literacy; and the Asian American and Pacific Islander Legal Center. Noel has received over a dozen awards, including the Peter Drucker School of Management Leadership Award, the Whitney M. Young Award, the Admiral Samuel L. Gravely Award, the Civic Leadership Award of Los Angeles, and the Civic Leadership Award of Chicago for serving for five years on the Chicago Workforce Board. He currently mentors young leaders and private organizations on values-based leadership principles. He and his family reside in Oak Park, Illinois, with a secondary residence in Southern California. Congrats, You've Been Promoted. That's the title of Noel's new book—and a perfect reminder that getting promoted is just the beginning, not the finish line. Noel shared why so many new leaders struggle after their big break and how values-based leadership can help them not just survive, but thrive in their new roles. What brand has made Noel smile recently? Noel pointed to McDonald's—admiring how the brand stays consistent and approachable while evolving with the times. For him, it's a lesson in balancing legacy with innovation, showing leadership isn't just about flashy moves but steady, reliable connection. Connect with Noel on LinkedIn and his book, Congrats, You've Been Promoted.  Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! 00:00 Intro and Noel's Background   02:00 Starting Out and Early Leadership Lessons   06:15 The Idea Behind Congrats You've Been Promoted   11:35 Core Values and Setting Leadership Terms   17:00 Handling Ethical Challenges and Uncomfortable Moments   19:30 The No Casual Moments Rule in Leadership   22:00 Value-Based Leadership at Scale   25:45 Lessons from Coaching and Leadership Models   27:00 A Brand Has Made Noel Smile and How to Connect   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dani Dufresne is the Founder and Executive Producer of The Auxiliary Co., a creative execution firm known for bringing bold ideas to life—efficiently and without the red tape of traditional agencies. Trusted by top brands, Dani's built a reputation for flawless production and assembling world-class creative teams. We talked about all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Dani Dufresne Dani Dufresne is the badass secret agent behind some of the most jaw-dropping campaigns you've ever seen. As the brains and brawn behind The Auxiliary Co., she's the one team's call when they need to pull off high-stakes creative execution—without the bloated budgets and red tape of traditional old model agencies. With an unmatched eye for innovative approaches, high-value design, and production execution, Dani doesn't just manage a campaign's work—she makes it legendary. Whether assembling an A-list creative team, running a massive production on a shoestring budget, or stepping in to save a campaign from disaster, she delivers flawlessly and unapologetically every time. Forget the outdated agency model. Dani's way is smarter, leaner, and faster. She's here to help brands ditch the bureaucracy, hire the right people, and actually get sh*t done. If you don't know her name yet, that's because she's been too busy making everyone else look good. Industrial Color. Here's a link to the AI color tool Dani talked about. What brand has made Dani smile recently? Dani shared a recent brand collab that made her smile: the unexpected partnership between hand sanitizer brand Living Touch and Crocs. It's quirky, a little ridiculous—and totally memorable. For Dani, it's a perfect example of how brands can break through by ditching traditional influencer playbooks and instead teaming up with other brands in surprising, delightful ways. It may not make logical sense on paper, but it makes great content—and sometimes that's exactly the point. Connect with Dani on LinkedIn and The Aux Co website. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! 01:00 – Meet Dani Dufresne Intro to Dani and The Aux Co. — why she's rethinking the traditional agency model. 03:30 – From Film School to Creative Producer How Dani's Hollywood detour led to a career in advertising and production. 06:45 – What Agencies Get Wrong The communication gap between agencies, creatives, and production—and how Dani bridges it. 10:30 – The Rise of the Fractional Producer Why Dani started The Aux Co. and how her model differs from freelance. 14:10 – Scaling Smart: Building Flexible Creative Teams How she helps agencies and brands scale production without bloating their teams. 17:00 – Bringing Production in Early The case for embedding production thinking at the start of the creative process. 20:10 – Leading with EQ Managing personalities, egos, and teaching her team to anticipate problems before they happen. 23:40 – AI and the Future of Creative Work Why embracing AI isn't optional—and how it's changing creative ideation and production. 27:45 – A Brand That Made Dani Smile Why an unexpected Crocs x hand sanitizer collab stood out in a sea of sameness. 29:00 – Where to Find Dani Links, contact info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Keath is a creativity keynote speaker, digital strategist, and co-founder of Social Fresh — a long-running marketing conference and agency trusted by brands like HubSpot and Anheuser-Busch. A pioneer in paid social, Jason launched some of the first Facebook ads back in 2004. He's also the author of The Case for More Bad Ideas, where he makes a compelling case for embracing messy thinking to spark better ideas. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Jason Keath Jason Keath was one of the first people in the world to run ads on Facebook in 2004. He's a digital strategy expert and the co-founder of Social Fresh, a digital agency and long-running marketing conference, founded in 2008. Today, Jason leads the agency side of Social Fresh, specializing in research, strategy, and paid media. He's also a sought-after keynote speaker on creativity and the author of The Case for More Bad Ideas, a book that champions a counterintuitive but practical process for unlocking better thinking through messier ideas. He's a 20+ year marketing strategist trusted by companies like HubSpot, Credit Karma, Anheuser-Busch, and Robinhood to help them command attention from the right audience. Jason has hosted thousands of marketers at Social Fresh events, built one of the longest-running communities in digital marketing, and believes the best ideas often start out looking like the worst ones. Want more Jason Keath? Listen to his first interview on the On Brand podcast back in 2016! During the show, Jason mentioned Mastercard's innovations in sonic branding. Here's my interview with Mastercard CMO Raja Rajamannar. What brand has made Jason smile recently? Jason shared examples from YETI, a brand he first fell in love with because of their exceptional product. But now, Jason thinks the brand's marketing has caught up and is just as exceptional as the product itself. Connect with Jason on LinkedIn and subscribe to his newsletter (with new AI tools) at MoreBadIdeas.com. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard Shear is Founding Partner and Chief Creative Officer of Invōk Brands and a founding faculty member of SVA's Master's in Branding program. With a five-decade design career and a passion for visual history, he explores how global consumer culture shapes today's brands in his new book A History of Brands. This week on On Brand, he joins me to discuss the evolution of retail, the enduring impact of packaging, and why the future of branding begins with the past. About Richard Shear Richard is a founding faculty member of the Master's in Branding program at New York's School of Visual Arts and a Founding Partner and Chief Creative Officer of Invōk Brands. His 50-year design career has been influenced by a fascination with visual history, driven by a curiosity for the culture of consumer brands, and guided by rich experience in brand identity and package design. Richard's SVA course focuses on the origins, evolution, and current status of retail brands, building awareness of the rich legacy and growth of global consumer culture and its intrinsic connection to the evolution of visual history. What brand has made Richard smile recently? “That's easy,” Richard shared. “Barbie.” Specifically, Richard points to their newly released Barbie with Type 1 Diabetes. Connect with Richard on LinkedIn as well as the Invōk Brands and Branding at SVA websites. And check out Richard's new book A History of Brands wherever you like to shop. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Corin Mills is the Brand Marketing & E-Commerce Director at MOO, where he leads data-driven strategies that connect standout design with authentic brand experiences. With global experience at Google, Tesco, Currys, and more, Corin brings a sharp, cross-industry perspective to brand transformation. This week on the On Brand podcast, he joins me to talk about balancing data and emotion, leading meaningful change, and what it takes to thrive in today's fast-moving e-commerce space. About Corin Mills Corin Mills is the Brand Marketing & E-Commerce Director at MOO, specializing in data-driven marketing strategies that revitalize brand experiences and foster meaningful organizational change. With over 15 years of extensive brand management experience driving business transformation across multiple sectors and international markets, his passion for impactful branding drives MOO's success in bridging the gap between quality design and human connection. As former Head of Brand and Comms at Currys, his transformative approach centers on genuine collaboration and inclusive leadership at all levels of business. With previous success at major brands including EE, Tesco, Currys, Google, Orange, and AXA, Corin brings a unique cross-industry perspective to discussions about e-commerce strategy and optimization. What brand has made Corin smile recently? Corin pointed us to the recent GoDaddy campaign with Walton Goggins (and his goggles). Connect with Corin on LinkedIn and the MOO website. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ryan Hamilton is an associate professor of marketing at Emory University and co-author of The Growth Dilemma. As co-host of The Intuitive Customer podcast, he brings behavioral science to life through real-world brand strategy. This week on On Brand, Ryan joins me to explore why customer decisions aren't as rational as we think, how brands can grow without losing their soul, and what he's learned working with companies like Walmart and Visa. About Ryan Hamilton Ryan Hamilton is an associate professor of marketing at Emory University's Goizueta Business School. He has consulted on branding with Walmart, FedEx, Home Depot, Caterpillar, ConAgra, Cigna, Visa, and Ipsos, among others, and has been a keynote speaker. He cohosts a podcast, called The Intuitive Customer, which applies the insights of behavioral science to customer experience. He has produced lecture series on both marketing and human decision making for The Great Courses. He's also the co-author of the book, The Growth Dilemma. What brand has made Ryan smile recently? Ryan shared a smile he got via a birthday gift from his wife. The gift? A planer from Bridge City Tools. “I love a  brand that can take something workaday and turn it into a thing of beauty.” Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn and his Emory University faculty page. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Aaker is Vice Chairman of Prophet and Professor Emeritus at the Berkeley Haas School of Business. Often called the “Father of Modern Branding,” David has authored 18 books and over 120 articles, shaping how marketers understand everything from brand equity to purpose-driven strategy. This week on On Brand, David returned to the show to discuss the updated edition of Aaker on Branding, what's changed (and what hasn't) in the world of brand strategy, and why purpose, storytelling, and owning a subcategory are more critical than ever. David Aaker is the Vice Chairman of Prophet and Professor Emeritus at the BerkeleyHaas School of Business. He is the winner of five career awards, including the NYAMA Marketing Hall of Fame. He has published over 120 articles and 18 books that have sold well over 1 million copies and been translated into 18 languages. They include Managing Brand Equity, Building Strong Brands, Aaker on Branding, Creating Signature Stories, Owning Game-Changing Subcategories, and The Future of Purpose-Driven Branding. Called the Father of Modern Branding by Phil Kotler, he was named one of the top five most important marketing/business gurus in 2007 and won awards for the best article in the California Management Review and the Journal of Marketing (twice). His work has received 160,000 citations. What brand has made David smile recently? David shared a smile from his company Prophet's new campaign for UBS, "Banking is our craft." Connect with David on LinkedIn, where he publishes regularly, and check out the revised edition of Aaker on Branding. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Regina Dowdell is a Content Solutions Consultant at LinkedIn, where she helps organizations craft creative, effective content strategies that drive business impact. With over 15 years of experience spanning nonprofits, tech, and startups, Regina brings a digital-first, entrepreneurial mindset to every brand she supports. This week on On Brand, Regina joined me to talk about personal branding, thought leadership, and what it takes to stand out on LinkedIn today. About Regina Dowdell Regina is a digital-minded, marketing creative with an entrepreneurial spirit focused on helping individuals and companies change the world. Through effective communication, thought leadership, and a strong digital presence, Regina has supported forward-thinking organizations across all industries, from non-profits to technology to start-ups, in spreading their messages and scaling for over 15 years. As a Content Solutions Consultant at LinkedIn, Regina helps organizations craft impactful content strategies that are creative, effective, and help them reach their business objectives. An avid traveler and self-proclaimed Super Mom, Regina is based in New York City. Connect with Regina on (wait for it) LinkedIn! Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nicole Johnston is a former global marketing leader turned transformational coach, with a career spanning Procter & Gamble, Hershey, and Newell Brands. Today, she helps women overcome career challenges as founder of innatePOWER™ and author of Taboo Topics: Things Women Should Talk About, But Don't. This week on On Brand, Nicole joined me to talk leadership, authenticity, and the power of brave conversations. About Nicole Johnston Nicole is a passionate Executive and Leadership Coach. She previously held senior Sales & Marketing roles at Procter & Gamble, Hershey Foods, and Kimberly-Clark, leading billion-dollar businesses to success. Nicole excels in capturing whitespace opportunities. Her true joy lies in providing positive support to her teams, leading with kindness, inspiring others, and making a transformative impact. Driven to make a difference, Nicole transitioned from corporate to coaching, founding innatePOWER™ to support women in overcoming obstacles and achieving their potential. innatePOWER™ is built on compassionate leadership and a genuine desire to make the world a better place, one person at a time. Nicole is a certified Executive, Leadership, and Organizational Development coach from the ICF-accredited Symbiosis Coaching. What brand has made Nicole smile recently? As a dedicated Hawkeye and Caitlin Clark fan, Nicole smiled as the Indiana Fever launched the Fever Network. Connect with Nicole on LinkedIn and check out the Innate Power Coaching website and her book, Taboo Topics. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Heather O'Shea is Chief Research Officer at Alter Agents, where she helps brands like Netflix, Walmart, and Spotify solve tough business challenges through smart research. With nearly 20 years of experience across agencies, platforms, and publishers, she's a leader in advertising insights and analytics. This week on On Brand, Heather joined me to talk curiosity, empathy, and what today's smartest brands are getting right. More About Heather Heather O'Shea is a passionate insights leader with over 18 years of experience, including a focus on advertising research, digital analytics, and media landscape. She has held leadership positions at media agencies, publishers, tech platforms, and research companies. She is currently the Chief Research Officer of boutique market research consultancy Alter Agents, where she oversees the research functions within the company, partnering with brands such as Netflix, Walmart, Gatorade, and Spotify to address tough business challenges. She received her M.B.A. in marketing from Baruch College at the City University of New York. She has served as a mentor for Women in Research (WIRe) and has served on the board of the Advertising Research Foundation's Women in Analytics program. What brand has made Heather smile recently? She shared a series of text-based smiles she got from a recent trip to Costco that her husband and son took. Connect with Heather on LinkedIn and learn more on the Alter Agents website. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dave Kaufman is Senior Director of Global Marketing for MR, VR, and Metaverse at Meta's Reality Labs, where he leads efforts for Meta Quest, Horizon Worlds, and Oculus Studios. His path includes stops at Google, Halo Neuroscience, and the U.S. Digital Service under President Obama. On this week's On Brand, Dave joined me to talk immersive tech, branding in virtual worlds, and what's next for the metaverse. More on Dave ... Dave Kaufman is Senior Director, Global Marketing of MR, VR, and Metaverse at Meta within the Reality Labs division. He leads global marketing efforts for Meta Quest, Horizon Worlds, and Oculus Studios. Before joining Meta, Dave headed up marketing at Halo Neuroscience, led brand strategy at the United States Digital Service (founded by President Barack Obama), and worked in product marketing at Google. He's earned recognition from Ad Age's 40 Under 40 list and honors at Cannes Lions, Clio, and The One Show. A graduate from Cornell University, Dave is now based in San Francisco. What brand has made Dave smile recently? Dave shared the recent, surprising smile the MLB brought to his face. Connect with Dave on LinkedIn and check out the article he wrote there, How to Work in Marketing (and not be full of ). You can also learn more about his work at Meta Reality Labs. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mark Kingsley is the author of Universal Principles of Branding and the forthcoming Brands in the Age of AI. A Grammy-nominated designer turned brand strategist, he's led work for Citi, Equinox, and Blue Note Records. Mark joined me on this week's On Brand to talk about branding's future—and how AI is changing the game. Mark Kingsley began his career designing album packages for legends like John Coltrane, Pat Metheny, and Quincy Jones—work that earned him a Grammy nomination in 2001 for Blue Note Records—before transitioning into corporate branding, where he led major initiatives at Landor and Collins for clients such as Citi, Ogilvy, and Equinox. Through his studio, Malcontent, he serves a diverse mix of clients from indie filmmakers to Pulitzer Prize winners. Mark teaches in the SVA Masters in Branding program, previously held the Melbert B. Cary Professorship at the Rochester Institute of Technology, and is currently Head of Brand for the fashion label Oumlil. His book Universal Principles of Branding became a bestseller in 2023, and his next, Brands in the Age of AI, is due out in December. What brand has made Mark smile recently? Mark shared decades-old smiles from the record label ECM, a company whose recordings provide a classic example of creating space through design and sound. Connect with Mark on LinkedIn and the Malcontent website. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cynthia Kane is the author of the new book The Pause Principle: How to Keep Your Cool in Tough Situations. A leading voice in intentional communication, Cynthia has helped over 70,000 people become less reactive and more kind, honest, and helpful in how they speak to themselves and others. Through her bestselling books, DailyOM course, and the Kane Intentional Communication Training Program, she's transforming the way we talk—and listen. Cynthia joined me to share how we can all communicate with more intention on this week's On Brand podcast. Cynthia Kane helps people enhance their lives and relationships by teaching them how to become less reactive in difficult conversations and speak to themselves, others, and their environment in a kind, honest, and helpful way. She has taught over 70,000 people how to change the way they communicate through her books, including her latest, The Pause Principle: How to Keep Your Cool in Tough Situations, Bestselling DailyOM Course, and the Kane Intentional Communication Training Program. She is a certified meditation and mindfulness instructor, certified breathing coach, and the founder of the Kane Intentional Communication Institute, LLC. What brand has made Cynthia smile recently? Cynthia shared how the colors of Pratima Skincare's products make her smile frequently. Connect with Cynthia on LinkedIn and her website. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anson Sowby is CEO and co-founder of Battery, a global creative company that mixes Hollywood storytelling with brand strategy and Silicon Valley speed. With offices around the world and clients like the Anaheim Ducks, Land O'Lakes, and Warner Bros Games, Battery has been named Ad Age Agency of the Year three times. Anson joined me to share how they built this bold, modern agency on this week's On Brand podcast. Anson Sowby is the CEO and co-founder of Battery, a global creative company who developed a unique working model that's part Hollywood storytelling mixed with classic brand principles done the Silicon Valley way. The company has been celebrated as a three-time Ad Age Agency of the Year with offices in Los Angeles, Chicago, Toronto and Shanghai, and works with forward-thinking clients like the Anaheim Ducks, Land O'Lakes, Royal Bank of Canada, and Warner Bros Games. What brand has made Anson smile recently? Anson shared a fun smile from the brand Trust & Will, which is in the business of ... well, exactly what you'd think! Listen to learn where Anson's unexpected smile came from. Connect with Anson on LinkedIn and learn more on the Battery website. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris Cardetti is Chief Strategy Officer at BarkleyOKRP, where he's spent the past decade shaping strategy into a creative force behind brand revivals for Planet Fitness, Motel 6, AMC Theatres, and more. Known for his journalistic curiosity and idea-first mindset, Chris and his team lead deep consumer research, upstream consulting, and thought leadership—earning top industry honors along the way. We dug into his approach this week on the On Brand podcast. About Chris Cardetti Chris Cardetti is the Chief Strategy Officer at BarkleyOKRP, where he's spent the past decade building the strategy, intelligence, and communications planning disciplines to be the art and science behind the agency's model for building whole brands. His recent experience includes a series of brand and business revitalization efforts for Planet Fitness, Motel 6, AMC Theatres, Smoothie King, and Big Brothers Big Sisters of America. Over the course of his career, Chris has zeroed in on a recipe for strategy that mixes journalistic insights with a “no handoffs” idea-centric mentality. This has helped lead to Effies, Lions, Reggies, Shorty's, and Clio's awards. His strategy team is also responsible for upstream consulting, in-depth qualitative and quantitative research, and BarkleyOKRP's thought leadership practice, designed to understand the modern consumer deeper than anyone else. What brand has made Chris smile recently? He gave us two! The first came from Phillips' great customer service after he dropped his Sonicare toothbrush! The second came from BarkleyOKRP's client — the Kansas City Chiefs. Connect with Chris on LinkedIn and learn more on the Barkley website. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kathy Klotz-Guest is Founder of Keeping It Human—a consultancy helping teams at Google, Amazon, and Wells Fargo ditch rigid thinking and spark bold breakthroughs with humor and improv. With 20 years in global tech and 25 years on comedy stages, Kathy brings laughs and innovation to business. We explored it all this week on the On Brand podcast. About Kathy Klotz-Guest Kathy Klotz-Guest, MA, MBA, is Founder of Keeping it Human (keepingithuman.com). She combines 20 years marketing and innovation leadership in Global Tech with 25 years of storytelling on improv and comedy stages. When companies and leaders at places including Google, Amazon, or Wells Fargo want to bust rigid thinking, fear, perceived limits and experience bold creative breakthroughs while laughing, they call Kathy. A top selling Amazon author ("Stop Boring Me") and comedian, Kathy is a professional speaker and expert in improv and humor in business and life. And you can still catch her on comedy stages. From the Show What brand has made Kathy smile recently? Kathy pointed us to the engaging and humorous social media accounts from Lake Michigan, Lake Superior, and the other Great Lakes. “They had these lake roast battles that were great!” She also shouted out Liquid Death's "Kegs for Pregs" ad, which reinforced the brand's “Hell yeah, this is who we are persona.” Connect with Kathy on LinkedIn and check out the Keeping it Human website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dan Salkey is Founder & Strategy Partner at Small World—a creative consultancy redefining industry norms with entertainment-first marketing. By curating bespoke teams from 200+ top talents in entertainment, art, and tech, Small World delivers unforgettable brand experiences. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Dan Salkey Dan Salkey, ex-Adidas, is the Founder and Strategy Partner of Small World, an innovative creative consultancy that's redefining the industry standard. Dan specializes in entertainment-first marketing and the creative tactics necessary to build an entertainment-first brand. At its core, Small World is pioneering a new creative model. By assembling bespoke teams from a curated roster of 200+ top-tier unstandard talent across entertainment, art, and technology, the company creates marketing experiences that feel as intrinsic and memorable as the products themselves. From the Show What brand has made Dan smile recently? Dan tweaked my question by providing a household brand (Oatley “an enlightened zagger” and their new campaign), a startup brand (another oat-themed company, Oat Cult!), and a personal brand (the artist Jon Bellion) that have made him smile. Connect with Dan on LinkedIn and check out the Small World website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dana Hork, Founder & CEO of Beers With Friends, joins me to share how her agile creative agency helps challenger brands solve big problems in just five days. A brand leader, entrepreneur, and storyteller, Dana has held roles at Wonder, Walmart, Jet.com, PepsiCo, and JPMorgan—and has been featured in TIME, Forbes, and Ad Age. We discussed all of this and more this week on the show. About Dana Hork Dana Hork is the Founder & CEO of Beers With Friends, an agile creative agency that helps challenger brands solve high-stakes problems in just five days. A brand leader, entrepreneur, and storyteller, Dana partners with CMOs and marketing leaders to deliver impactful brand solutions quickly and without the bureaucracy of traditional agencies. She has held leadership roles at Wonder, Walmart, Jet.com, PepsiCo, and JPMorgan. Dana holds an MBA from Harvard, an MPA from Columbia, and a BA from the University of Pennsylvania. A frequent speaker and podcast guest, she has been featured in TIME, Forbes, and Ad Age. From the Show What brand has made Dana smile recently? Dana shared a recent brand collaboration that made her smile. Connect with Dana on LinkedIn and check out the Beers With Friends website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jill Cress, Chief Marketing and Experience Officer at H&R Block, is a visionary marketer with 30+ years of experience in financial services, media, and tech. She's led brand transformations at PayPal, National Geographic, and MasterCard and now focuses on modernizing H&R Block, enhancing customer experience, and driving growth. Recognized as one of the world's top CMOs, Jill excels at connecting brands with consumers in meaningful ways. About Jill Cress Jill Cress is an innovative marketer and strategist who pushes boundaries as the Chief Marketing and Experience Officer for H&R Block. She leads a dynamic team invested in transforming customer experience, modernizing and infusing its brand into highly relevant channels, and amplifying strategic marketing and communications efforts to deliver growth. For more than 30 years, Cress has honed her skills as a strategic and passionate consumer, B2B marketer, and experience strategist with deep expertise in financial services, media and technology. She has held leadership roles across marketing, general management, product and enterprise strategy at leading Fortune 500 Companies. Prior to H&R Block, Cress served as vice president of brand marketing for PayPal, where she also had responsibility for all Venmo marketing. She was also the chief marketing and communications officer at National Geographic Partners and served for more than 20 years at MasterCard Worldwide. There, she held executive leadership roles in strategy and marketing and served as country general manager for the United Kingdom and Ireland. Cress serves on the boards of the Ad Council and the Wealth Enhancement Group, an independent wealth management firm overseeing more than $96 billion in client assets. She has been recognized for numerous accolades, including Adweek's inaugural Marketing Vanguard list, New York Women in Communications' Matrix Award Honoree, Business Insider's 25 Most Innovative CMOs, Forbes' World's 50 Most Influential CMOs, the CMO Next List, and the Entrepreneurial CMO 50. Cress holds a bachelor's degree from the Kelley School of Business at Indiana University. She is a self-described “explorer at heart” who loves experiencing new places and brands that connect with consumers in exciting ways. A resident of New York, Cress enjoys spending free time exploring the city and travelling the world with her husband, Todd, and daughter Beatrix. From the Show What brand has made Jill smile recently? Jill shared a recent “morning after the Oscars” smile from McDonald's, when the fast food brand shared what winners like Kieran Culkin might order after their big night. Connect with Jill on LinkedIn and check out the H&R Block website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network.  Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris Peterson, Co-Founder of Lifemind, is a marketing pioneer with over 30 years of experience shaping the digital landscape. Author of Red & Blue Customers, Chris has built and sold two innovative agencies, earning recognition from The Wall Street Journal and working with both Fortune 500 brands and fast-growth startups. In this episode of On Brand, we discuss his insights on the evolving digital landscape and how brands can better connect with customers in an increasingly divided world. About Chris Peterson Chris Peterson is the Co-Founder of Lifemind, an AI-agent platform designed for national, local, and regional marketers. With over 30 years as a marketing pioneer and entrepreneur, Chris has founded two digital marketing agencies, working with fast-growing startups and Fortune 500 companies. In the 1990s, he launched one of the first digital direct marketing agencies, earning recognition from The Wall Street Journal. Publicis Groupe later acquired the agency. Chris later established an early content marketing agency before the term became mainstream, which was then acquired by Rain, a direct-to-consumer advertising agency. He's also the author of the book Red & Blue Customers. From the Show What brand has made Chris smile recently? Chris shared the smiles that he gets from his beloved New Balance sneakers, which he's delighted to see are back in style! Connect with Chris on LinkedIn and check out the Lifemind website, including the special offer for listeners at lifemind.ai/onbrand. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott Grates is a visionary entrepreneur and expert in strategic relationship marketing, building multiple seven-figure businesses, including top insurance agencies and a real estate portfolio. He helps entrepreneurs grow through his Infinite Referral Advantage® system and is the bestselling author of Essential F-words for Teens and the upcoming Referrals Done Right. A podcast host and sought-after speaker, his upcoming TEDx talk, Silence That Voice, explores overcoming self-doubt for entrepreneurial success. About Scott Grates Scott Grates is a visionary entrepreneur and expert in strategic relationship marketing, having built multiple 7-figure businesses, including nationally recognized insurance agencies and a thriving real estate portfolio. A firm believer in the power of personal connections over digital noise, Scott helps entrepreneurs grow through his innovative Infinite Referral Advantage® system. He is the bestselling author of Essential F-words for Teens and the upcoming Referrals Done Right, as well as a podcast host and sought-after speaker. His upcoming TEDx talk, Silence That Voice, will explore overcoming self-doubt to achieve entrepreneurial success. From the Show What brand has made Scott smile recently? Scott echoed the smile of another recent guest, Scott Monty, by sharing a handwritten smile he received from Delta Airlines. Connect with Scott on LinkedIn and his website ScottGrates.com. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nicole Powell is a certified brand strategist and neuromarketer who blends science-backed insights with creative storytelling. As the founder of HALCON Marketing Solutions, she brings over 16 years of experience from Disney, ESPN, and Fox Networks. Born in Manila and raised in the Bronx, her multicultural background shapes her innovative approach to marketing and leadership. Now based in St. Louis, Nicole helps brands stand out by merging data-driven strategy with human psychology. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Nicole Powell Nicole Powell is the founder of HALCON Marketing Solutions and a certified brand strategist with 16 years of experience at Disney, ESPN, and Fox Networks. Born in Manila and raised in the Bronx, this St. Louis entrepreneur balances running her agency with raising two toddlers while empowering businesses to thrive through her unique blend of instinct and creative flair. Nicole Powell is a certified brand strategist and neuromarketer who brings a unique blend of science-backed insights and creative storytelling to the marketing industry. As the founder of HALCON Marketing Solutions, she leverages over 16 years of experience working with media giants like Disney, ESPN, and Fox Networks. Born in Manila and raised in the Bronx, Nicole's multicultural background has shaped her innovative approach to marketing and leadership. Now based in St. Louis, she successfully balances running her agency while raising two toddlers, embodying the modern entrepreneur who combines professional excellence with personal fulfillment. From the Show What brand has made Nicole smile recently? Nicole told a story of a recent trip to a Lego experience with her two sons in Washington D.C. She also reminded us that the brand's continued focus on play is a big part of why it's stood the test of time. Connect with Nicole on LinkedIn and Instagram and check out the HALCON Marketing Solutions website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on On Brand, we're shaking things up with a very special guest—DJ Waldow! Longtime listeners may remember that DJ and I co-hosted The Work Talk Show, a podcast all about how work gets done today. Tune in as we reminisce, share some laughs, and make a special announcement about the show. Subscribe to the Work Talk Show on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you like to listen. About DJ Waldow DJ Waldow is a freelance writer specializing in all things words. He's a father of 4 (including twins), husband to one, and an alum of the University of Michigan. DJ is a self-proclaimed giphy master and #HashtagAddict. For 100 (or so) episodes, he was my co-host on my very first podcast The Work Talk Show! From the Show What brand has made DJ smile recently? DJ pointed us to client experience platform Boulevard—a consistent and human source of smiles for DJ in the digitally disconnected world we find ourselves in. Connect with DJ on LinkedIn and, of course, find the Work Talk Show on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you like to listen. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam Constantine is the Founder and CEO of ACE Creatives, a full-service social media agency helping brands maximize ROI and build meaningful audience connections. With a decade of experience crafting digital content for top creators and brands—including MrBeast, Amazon, and Champion—Adam understands what makes social media truly engaging. A 3x Telly Award winner, he joins On Brand to share insights on digital storytelling, content strategy, and the ever-evolving social media landscape. About Adam Constantine Adam Constantine is the Founder and CEO of ACE Creatives, a full-service social media agency crafting digital content to maximize ROI and brand affinity. With a decade of experience, Adam has curated captivating content for creators, brands, and Fortune 500 companies, including MrBeast, Amazon, and Champion. Since founding ACE Creatives in 2017, Adam has created digital strategies, social media, and full-scale productions across the retail/e-commerce, hospitality, and automotive industries. A 3x Telly Awards recipient, with a 6'8″ frame and an ever-growing shoe collection, Adam is passionate about the art of digital storytelling and strategies for building a powerful social media presence that connects brands with audiences that matter the most. From the Show What brand has made Adam smile recently? Adam shared the consistent smile he receives from Duolingo's various social accounts across the globe. Connect with Adam on LinkedIn and Instagram and check out the ACE Creatives website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott Monty is an executive coach, advisor, and speaker who helps leaders find clarity and drive growth. A former executive at Ford, he merged technology with humanity to shape the company's global social media strategy. Ranked by The Economist as a top social business leader, Scott focuses on timeless leadership principles to guide today's leaders. He's also the host of the Timeless Leadership podcast and writes the Timeless & Timely newsletter. Tune in for insights on navigating leadership in a fast-changing world. About Scott Monty Scott Monty is an executive coach, advisor, and public speaker who  helps companies and executive teams in flux, positioning leaders who are new or stuck to find a clear vision, collaborate, and communicate better to drive growth. A Fortune 10 leader whose background in classics positioned him to see through the shiny objects, Scott focuses on timeless human nature that drives everyone. He was ranked by The Economist as #1 atop the list 25 Social Business Leaders and Alan Mulally, the CEO of Ford Motor Company, called him “a visionary.” Scott spent six years as an executive at Ford, where he helped turn the company around with the ability to merge technology with humanity. He served as a strategic adviser across a wide range of business functions, leading the company's global social media strategy. He also has another two decades of experience in leadership and communications consulting. Scott's clients have included companies such as Walmart, IBM, McDonalds, Coca-Cola, Google, and TD Bank. He is a trustee of the Detroit Symphony Orchestra, a past board member of the American Marketing Association, and has advised a number of tech companies. He writes the Timeless & Timely newsletter, to help leaders make sense of today with lessons from the past, and hosts the Timeless Leadership podcast. From the Show Alan Mulally's Twitter chat. As discussed during the show, here's a link to the Twitter Q&A Scott facilitated with former Ford CEO Alan Mulally back in 2009. What brand has made Scott smile recently? Scott highlighted Delta, specifically Ed Bastian's leadership throughout this past difficult week for the brand. The airline's authentic, transparent leadership consistently makes him smile. Connect with Scott on LinkedIn and check out his website for his newsletter and more timeless content. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. James Richardson, founder of Premium Growth Solutions, returns to On Brand to share more insights on scaling CPG brands. A cultural anthropologist turned business strategist, he has advised over 150 brands, including Dude Wipes and Dr. Squatch. He also hosts Startup Confidential and writes Homo Imaginari on Substack. With work featured in Inc. and Business Insider, James brings his sharp perspective on brand growth and strategy. About James Richardson Dr. Richardson is the founder of Premium Growth Solutions, a strategic planning consultancy for emerging consumer packaged goods brands. As a professionally trained cultural anthropologist turned business strategist, he has helped over 150 CPG brands with their strategic planning, including: Dude Wipes, Once Upon a Farm, Dr. Squatch Soap, Trü Frü, Earth Breeze, Dr. Bronner's, Happy Egg, Made Good and many others. James also hosts his own business podcast—Startup Confidential —on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, and most major podcast platforms. And he writes a Substack publication on contemporary social issue—Homo Imaginari — every week. His thoughts have appeared in Inc Magazine, Business Insider, Food Business News, and numerous business podcasts. From the Show What brand has made James smile recently? James pointed us to the festive holiday smile he got from Dude Wipes for their Dingle Bells holiday balsam fur wipes. Connect with James on LinkedIn and check out the website for his book Ramping Your Brand.  As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Derek K. Hubbard is Manager of Public Relations for Southwest Airlines. In his role, Derek shares the story of Southwest with audiences across a variety of channels. For more than 10 years, Derek has been a sought after expert on how to craft compelling stories and influence audiences. He believes stories can change the world and everyone has one waiting to be told. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Derek K. Hubbard Derek K. Hubbard is the Manager of Public Relations for Southwest Airlines, where he helps share the airline's story across a variety of channels. This year, he served as a jury member for Brandstorytelling 2025, a sanctioned event of the Sundance Film Festival, evaluating top films, podcasts, and episodes. With a background as a television producer in Dallas and experience in financial communications in London, Derek's expertise spans media, storytelling, and brand strategy. He's been recognized as a PR News 30 and Under Rising PR Star and has contributed to outlets like The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Today Show. An avid communicator and entertainment enthusiast, he's even made an appearance on Carpool Karaoke! From the Show Want more on that Herb Kelleher Malice in Dallas arm-wrestling match? Check out the full story on the Southwest website! What brand has made Derek smile recently? “During my time at (Sundance's) Brand Storytelling (Festival), I had the pleasure of watching and and an episode of a series called Celebrity Substitute, which I believe is streaming on YouTube. What was really cool about about this series is that they went into classrooms and highlighted education, highlighted teachers and the incredible work that they are doing within our classrooms.” Connect with Derek on LinkedIn and check out Southwest's social channels and their website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Todd Bracher, founder of BRACHER, is a leading industrial designer and strategist with 25+ years of experience. He shares how he blends design, science, and business to drive innovation, launch groundbreaking products, and advise top brands on differentiation. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Todd Bracher Todd Bracher founded BRACHER, an Industrial Design and Advisory firm. With over 25 years of experience, Todd integrates design, science, and business to drive sustained growth. He has launched over 200 products, secured two dozen patents, and a three-time International Designer of the Year recipient. Known for guiding strategic differentiation and navigating disruption, Todd is a sought-after advisor for top brands and startups. In 2022 he launched Betterlab to champion science-based design. Residing in New York, Todd is a dedicated father committed to making a positive impact. From the Show What brand has made Todd smile recently? Todd shared the smiles that came from both him and his sons as a result of his new Baggu laptop sleeve. Guess what the sleeve features? Smiley faces — more smiles! Connect with Todd on LinkedIn or his website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of On Brand, Jennifer van Dijk, CEO of Superplastic, shares how the company is redefining entertainment by turning animated characters into cultural icons. With 23+ million social media followers, Superplastic blends storytelling, commerce, and AI to create innovative experiences. Jennifer also reflects on her career leading brands like Dapper Labs, Hoonigan, the NBA, and more. About Jennifer van Dijk Jennifer van Dijk is the CEO of Superplastic, a leading entertainment company renowned for transforming animated characters into engaging content, immersive experiences, and innovative products. With over 23 million social media followers and counting, Superplastic successfully monetizes across digital media, gaming, television, and experiential platforms. Jennifer excels in next-gen entertainment, seamlessly merging content and commerce through beloved intellectual properties, AI, and pioneering revenue streams. Before Superplastic, Jennifer was President of Dapper Labs North America, CEO of Hoonigan, and roles as EVP of Digital & Content Partnerships at Wasserman, Chief Strategy Officer for the LA Clippers, and VP of Team Marketing & Business Operations at the NBA. From the Show What brand has made Jennifer smile recently? Jennifer pointed to a recent Gap ad that represents a throwback to the brand's iconic OG ”dance ads.” Connect with Jennifer on LinkedIn and learn more about Superplastic on their website and YouTube. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of On Brand, we're celebrating creativity with Victoria Lozano, Executive Vice President at Crayola. As Crayola kicks off its annual Creativity Week, Victoria joins us to discuss the brand's mission to inspire imagination and innovation in children and adults alike. From their iconic crayons to bold initiatives like the Campaign for Creativity, Crayola is more than a brand—it's a champion for self-expression and connection through art. Tune in to hear how Crayola is fostering creativity across generations and empowering us all to think outside the lines. About Victoria Lozano Victoria Lozano is the Executive Vice President of Brand Marketing at Crayola LLC, where she oversees brand activation, digital strategy, consumer communications, partnerships, education marketing, and location-based entertainment (LBE), as well as leading Crayola Studios, which creates family-focused content to inspire creativity. Previously, she was Vice President of Marketing at Cadbury North America, managing the $1.2B Gum and Mints Portfolio, and held marketing roles at Miller Brewing Company, Warner-Lambert, and Pfizer. Victoria holds an MBA in Marketing and Finance and a BS in Marketing and Classical Studies (summa cum laude) from New York University. She also serves on the board of The Children's Home of Easton in Pennsylvania. From the Show What brand has made Victoria smile recently? Victoria shared the recent holiday ad from Coca-Cola centered on the story of “The New Guy.” Connect with Victoria on LinkedIn and learn more about Crayola Creativity Week and their Campaign for Creativity. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Elie Jacobs is a Founding Partner at Purposeful Advisors. With a career that began in President Clinton's post-presidential office, Elie has worked for some of the world's leading public affairs and strategic communications consultancies helping clients navigate the increasingly crisis-fraught media landscape. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Elie Jacobs Elie Jacobs is a Founding Partner at Purposeful Advisors. Elie has more than two decades of experience as a public affairs and strategic communications professional. He began his communications career as a press aide in the post-presidential office of President Bill Clinton, handling Clinton's briefing materials and working with the news media. He has worked for some of the world's leading public affairs and strategic communications consultancies, including Brunswick Group, Public Strategies, Sloane & Company, Glover Park Group, and Kivvit. Elie has served as a Senior Advisor to a leading global strategic advisory firm and is a sought-after advisor for political candidates and elected officials. He's a Political Partner with the Truman National Security Project, a member of Chatham House, and frequently provides expert media commentary on American and Israeli politics and national security. From the Show What brand has made Elie smile recently? Elie told the story of Gaggenau based on their curiosity-building ad “For Those Who Know” in the Harvard Business Review. Connect with Elie on LinkedIn and the Purposeful Advisors website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tommy Means is a Founding Partner & Chief Creative Officer at Mekanism. In his nearly twenty years in the industry, he has created award-winning campaigns for brands including Molson/Coors, Nike, Apple, The North Face, Pepsi, Disney, and 20th Century Fox. Tommy won a Cannes Lion for creating one of the first cannabis commercials. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Tommy Means Tommy Means is a Founding Partner & Chief Creative Officer at Mekanism, a creative advertising agency with offices in San Francisco, New York, and Seattle. Under his creative leadership, Mekanism has been named a Top 10 Most Effective Independent Agency in the US by the Effie Index, and Independent Agency of the Year by The Drum. In his nearly twenty years in the industry, he has created award-winning campaigns for brands including Molson/Coors, Nike, Apple, The North Face, Pepsi, Disney, and 20th Century Fox. Tommy won a Cannes Lion for creating one of the first cannabis commercials with Academy Award-winning director Spike Jonze. From the Show What brand has made Tommy smile recently? Tommy shared a smile from AirBNB. Connect with Tommy on LinkedIn or the Mekanism website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Wright is Co-Founder, Director, and Chief Creative Officer at Sibling Rivalry, a New York and Los Angeles-based brand studio and production company infusing insight with imagination to drive brand, business, and culture. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Joe Wright Joe Wright is Co-Founder, Director, and Chief Creative Officer at Sibling Rivalry, a New York and Los Angeles based brand studio and production company infusing insight with imagination to drive brand, business, and culture. Joe is a meticulous craftsman, who designs every detail to impact the greater story of his films. As a co-founder and chief creative officer of Sibling Rivalry, Joe's work brings the audience on a journey of striking imagery and authentic storytelling. He's collaborated with brands such as Cadillac, Calvin Klein, Samsung, and HPE. He has won numerous industry awards and accolades, directed Super Bowl campaigns, and he has work that is featured in the permanent collection of the Cooper Hewitt Museum in New York. From the Show What brand has made Joe smile recently? Joe said he would be unabashedly self-promotional (LOL!) and share Sibling Rivalry's recent work for the steaming service Philo, which brings smiles to faces both internally and externally. Connect with Joe on LinkedIn and the Sibling Rivalry website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we have our annual holiday episode of the On Brand podcast with the “Naughty and Nice Brands of 2024.” The smart folks at Brand Federation developed this seasonally appropriate snapshot of brand behavior looking back on this past year and the year ahead at 2025. The consultancy's Chief Growth Officer Matt Williams joined me to discuss which brands have been naughty and nice this year. About Matt Williams Matt Williams is chief growth officer for Brand Federation, a brand strategy consultancy in Richmond, Va. Prior to joining Brand Federation in 2019, Williams was CEO of the Martin Agency, one of the world's most recognized advertising agencies, where he managed strategy development for world-class brands like GEICO, OREO, UPS, Discover Financial, Walmart, and more. Williams also is Clinical Professor in the marketing department at the Mason School of Business at William & Mary. He teaches in the MBA program and is the developer and Faculty Director of the school's Online Masters in Marketing. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Justin Goldstein is the Founder and Lead Strategist of PR72, an integrated communications agency that helps organizations like Uber, AARP, and General Motors unlock growth and build their brands. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Justin Goldstein Justin Goldstein is an award-winning public relations and marketing expert, and the Founder and Lead Strategist of PR73. This integrated communications agency helps brands build trust and unlock growth opportunities. He has reshaped industry practices through his work with leading organizations like Uber, AARP, Clinton Global Initiative, General Motors, and many more. Justin's mission? To empower brands to develop trust at every touchpoint. Justin's journey and personal story testify to the power of resilience and resourcefulness. Born with a cyst on his kidney, Justin learned early on to recognize his limits and adapt strategically—a lesson he now applies to business. Just as he used a kidney protector belt as a child, Justin advocates for understanding your bandwidth and being resourceful to avoid overextending yourself and your clients. From the Show What brand has made Justin smile recently? Justin shared the consistent smiles he gets from real estate brokerage SERHANT. Connect with Justin on LinkedIn and the PR73 website. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices