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Arlie Hochschild is an author and professor emerita of sociology at the University of California, Berkeley. Her books include Stolen Pride: Loss, Shame, and the Rise of the Right and Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right. In this week's conversation, Yascha Mounk and Arlie Hochschild discuss the fear of empathy among the American left, the impact of the loss of pride among white working class communities, and how to understand the deep story of Latinos who voted for Trump in 2024. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Leonora Barclay Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How to put America back together? Few people have thought more about this Humpty Dumpty style challenge than Arlie Russell Hochschild, author of the 2016 classic Strangers In Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right. So when I sat down with Hochschild for my new KEEN ON AMERICA series, we began by talking about what it means to her to be American and whether she's ever felt like a stranger in her own land. Born in 1940, my sense is that Hochschild has spent much of her life grappling with what it means to be a progressive American in a mostly conservative country. The Berkeley based Hochschild has made two significant journeys to the American South - the first in early Sixties as a civil rights activist and the second, fifty years later, to research Strangers In Their Own Land. She talked about both journeys as a form of confronting and then resolving her ambivalence about what it means to be an American. These journeys, then, were her way of building what she calls “empathy bridges” with another America. We talked about the American future too. Hochschild believes the work of the sociologist, like the marriage councillor, is a resolve conflict by bringing people together. In contrast with the dark paranoia of many progressives these days, Hochschild is cautiously optimistic about bringing Americans back together. And this conflict-resolution approach, I suspect, will be familiar with many young Americans for whom therapy has been normalized as an essential feature of 21st century life. Arlie Russell Hochschild's Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, now available in paperback from The New Press, addresses the increasingly bitter political divide in America. A finalist for the National Book Award, and New York Times Best Seller, the book is based on five years of immersion reporting among Tea Party loyalists -- now mostly supporters of Donald Trump. Hochschild tries to bridge an “empathy wall” between the two political sides, to explore the “deep story” underlying the right that remains unrecognized by the left. Mark Danner calls the book “a powerful, imaginative, necessary book, arriving not a moment too soon." Robert Reich writes” Anyone who wants to understand modern America should read this captivating book." In its review, Publisher's Weekly notes: “After evaluating her conclusions and meeting her informants in these pages, it's hard to disagree that empathy is the best solution to stymied political and social discourse.” Her 2012 The Outsourced Self: Intimate Life in Market Times, explores the many ways in which the market enters our modern lives and was named one of the best books of the year by Publishers Weekly. Her other books include: So How's the Family?, The Managed Heart, The Second Shift, The Time Bind, The Commercialization of Intimate Life, The Unexpected Community and the co-edited Global Woman: Nannies, Maids and Sex Workers in the New Economy. In reviewing The Second Shift (reissued in 2012 with a new afterword) Robert Kuttner noted Hochschild's “subtlety of insights” and “graceful seamless narrative” and called it the “best discussion I have read of what must be the quintessential domestic bind of our time.” Newsweek's Laura Shapiro described The Time Bind as “groundbreaking.” In awarding Hochschild the Jesse Bernard Award, the American Sociological Association citation observed her “creative genius for framing questions and lines of insight, often condensed into memorable, paradigm-shifting words and phrases.” A retired U.C. Berkeley professor of sociology, she lives with her husband, the writer Adam Hochschild in Berkeley, California.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe

How does the Bible instruct humans to interact with the Earth? Over the last few decades, white conservative evangelical Christians have increasingly taken positions against environmental protections. To understand why, Meghan Cochran talks with Neall W. Pogue about his book The Nature of the Religious Right: The Struggle between Conservative Evangelicals and the Environmental Movement (Cornell University Press, 2022) in which he examines how the religious right became a political force known for hostility toward environmental legislation.  Until the 1990s, theologically based, eco-friendly philosophies of Christian environmental stewardship were uncontroversial. However, when some in the evangelical community began to lean towards environmental activism in response to human caused climate change, their effort was overwhelmed by some conservative leaders who stressed a position against environmentalism. They ridiculed conservation efforts, embraced conspiracy theories, and refuted the expanding scientific literature. Pogue explains how different ideas of nature helped to construct a conservative evangelical political movement that rejected long-standing beliefs regarding Christian environmental stewardship. Suggested readings:  The Gospel of Climate Skepticism: Why Evangelical Christians Oppose Action on Climate Change by Robin Globus Veldman (University of California Press, 2019) Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild (The New Press, 2016) Meghan Cochran studies belief and action as a technologist working in customer experience and as a student of religion, business, and literature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/environmental-studies

How does the Bible instruct humans to interact with the Earth? Over the last few decades, white conservative evangelical Christians have increasingly taken positions against environmental protections. To understand why, Meghan Cochran talks with Neall W. Pogue about his book The Nature of the Religious Right: The Struggle between Conservative Evangelicals and the Environmental Movement (Cornell University Press, 2022) in which he examines how the religious right became a political force known for hostility toward environmental legislation.  Until the 1990s, theologically based, eco-friendly philosophies of Christian environmental stewardship were uncontroversial. However, when some in the evangelical community began to lean towards environmental activism in response to human caused climate change, their effort was overwhelmed by some conservative leaders who stressed a position against environmentalism. They ridiculed conservation efforts, embraced conspiracy theories, and refuted the expanding scientific literature. Pogue explains how different ideas of nature helped to construct a conservative evangelical political movement that rejected long-standing beliefs regarding Christian environmental stewardship. Suggested readings:  The Gospel of Climate Skepticism: Why Evangelical Christians Oppose Action on Climate Change by Robin Globus Veldman (University of California Press, 2019) Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild (The New Press, 2016) Meghan Cochran studies belief and action as a technologist working in customer experience and as a student of religion, business, and literature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/religion

How does the Bible instruct humans to interact with the Earth? Over the last few decades, white conservative evangelical Christians have increasingly taken positions against environmental protections. To understand why, Meghan Cochran talks with Neall W. Pogue about his book The Nature of the Religious Right: The Struggle between Conservative Evangelicals and the Environmental Movement (Cornell University Press, 2022) in which he examines how the religious right became a political force known for hostility toward environmental legislation.  Until the 1990s, theologically based, eco-friendly philosophies of Christian environmental stewardship were uncontroversial. However, when some in the evangelical community began to lean towards environmental activism in response to human caused climate change, their effort was overwhelmed by some conservative leaders who stressed a position against environmentalism. They ridiculed conservation efforts, embraced conspiracy theories, and refuted the expanding scientific literature. Pogue explains how different ideas of nature helped to construct a conservative evangelical political movement that rejected long-standing beliefs regarding Christian environmental stewardship. Suggested readings:  The Gospel of Climate Skepticism: Why Evangelical Christians Oppose Action on Climate Change by Robin Globus Veldman (University of California Press, 2019) Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild (The New Press, 2016) Meghan Cochran studies belief and action as a technologist working in customer experience and as a student of religion, business, and literature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How does the Bible instruct humans to interact with the Earth? Over the last few decades, white conservative evangelical Christians have increasingly taken positions against environmental protections. To understand why, Meghan Cochran talks with Neall W. Pogue about his book The Nature of the Religious Right: The Struggle between Conservative Evangelicals and the Environmental Movement (Cornell University Press, 2022) in which he examines how the religious right became a political force known for hostility toward environmental legislation.  Until the 1990s, theologically based, eco-friendly philosophies of Christian environmental stewardship were uncontroversial. However, when some in the evangelical community began to lean towards environmental activism in response to human caused climate change, their effort was overwhelmed by some conservative leaders who stressed a position against environmentalism. They ridiculed conservation efforts, embraced conspiracy theories, and refuted the expanding scientific literature. Pogue explains how different ideas of nature helped to construct a conservative evangelical political movement that rejected long-standing beliefs regarding Christian environmental stewardship. Suggested readings:  The Gospel of Climate Skepticism: Why Evangelical Christians Oppose Action on Climate Change by Robin Globus Veldman (University of California Press, 2019) Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild (The New Press, 2016) Meghan Cochran studies belief and action as a technologist working in customer experience and as a student of religion, business, and literature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/christian-studies

How does the Bible instruct humans to interact with the Earth? Over the last few decades, white conservative evangelical Christians have increasingly taken positions against environmental protections. To understand why, Meghan Cochran talks with Neall W. Pogue about his book The Nature of the Religious Right: The Struggle between Conservative Evangelicals and the Environmental Movement (Cornell University Press, 2022) in which he examines how the religious right became a political force known for hostility toward environmental legislation.  Until the 1990s, theologically based, eco-friendly philosophies of Christian environmental stewardship were uncontroversial. However, when some in the evangelical community began to lean towards environmental activism in response to human caused climate change, their effort was overwhelmed by some conservative leaders who stressed a position against environmentalism. They ridiculed conservation efforts, embraced conspiracy theories, and refuted the expanding scientific literature. Pogue explains how different ideas of nature helped to construct a conservative evangelical political movement that rejected long-standing beliefs regarding Christian environmental stewardship. Suggested readings:  The Gospel of Climate Skepticism: Why Evangelical Christians Oppose Action on Climate Change by Robin Globus Veldman (University of California Press, 2019) Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild (The New Press, 2016) Meghan Cochran studies belief and action as a technologist working in customer experience and as a student of religion, business, and literature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/book-of-the-day

When Russell Moore saw footage of a “Jesus saves” sign during the January 6, 2021 insurrection at the United States Capitol, he wasn't just angered by the assault on democracy. He was horrified by what he saw as a blasphemous misrepresentation of the gospel. How could American culture have gotten to such a place? And what can be done about it? Those are the types of questions that today's guest, Dr. Tobias Cremer, explores in his new book The Godless Crusade, Religion, Populism, and Right Wing Identity Politics in the West.  Cremer, a junior research fellow at Pembroke College, and an associate member of the Department of Politics and International Relations at the University of Oxford, studies the relationship between religion, secularization, and the rise of right-wing identity politics. And when he looks at right-wing populism, he sees far more secularism than true religion. On this episode, Moore and Cremer discuss the rise of national populist movements in America and other Western countries. They discuss how faith and socioeconomic status influence political leanings, why religious symbols are used in political movements, and what people really mean when they say they are Christian in a political context. Moore and Cremer talk about the growing number of de-churched Protestants in the Bible Belt and how the populist right confuses religion for identity. And they consider the changes that people and institutions can make to address polarization, resentment, and radicalization. Tune in for an episode that provides a nuanced view of political and religious history in the West and sheds light on our culture today. Resources mentioned in this episode include:  The Godless Crusade, Religion, Populism, and Right Wing Identity Politics in the West by Tobias Cremer “White Southern Evangelicals Are Leaving the Church” by Daniel K. Williams The 1934 Barmen Declaration Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild Christianity and History by Herbert Butterfield Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America by Russell Moore Do you have a question for Russell Moore? Send it to questions@russellmoore.com. Click here for a trial membership at Christianity Today. “The Russell Moore Show” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producers: Erik Petrik, Russell Moore, and Mike Cosper Host: Russell Moore Producer: Ashley Hales Associate Producers: Abby Perry and McKenzie Hill Director of Operations for CT Media: Matt Stevens Audio engineering by Dan Phelps Video producer: Abby Egan Theme Song: “Dusty Delta Day” by Lennon Hutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I recently read Arlie Russell Hochschild's book Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right. Hochschild was one of the commentators in the Essential documentary and I was curious about her book. One of the things she discusses is the idea of someone jumping the line - while people are waiting on the American Dream that gets more distant, they look for someone to blame. Links:https://www.buzzsprout.com/1125110/12990192https://www.amazon.com/Strangers-Their-Own-Land-Mourning-ebook/dp/B074CMNKDQhttps://www.amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-Strategic-Alliance-Corporation-Expanded-ebook/dp/B00AGIDA8ALinks where I can be found: https://causeyconsultingllc.com/2023/01/30/updates-housekeeping/Need more? Email me: https://causeyconsultingllc.com/contact-causey/ 

Today's episode is the second of a three-part series that seeks to understand what underpins the Trumpism movement in the United States – who these voters are and what motivates them, and then how that fits into a broader global shift we're seeing - away from liberal democracy. Last week I spoke to Dr. Arlie Hochschild about her book Strangers in Their Own Land  to understand the paradox of conservative folks and their support for policies that do tangible harm to them.Today I'm talking to Dr. Philip Gorski, professor and sociologist at Yale University, and the co-author of the book The Flag and the Cross. Together, we discuss another seeming paradox – why self-identified Christians align so closely with Trump who, for all intents and purposes, is not a true Christian. He certainly hasn't lived his life in accordance to scripture. I want to know how Christians square this alliance and this allegiance, how we got here, and if there is any chance that this relationship could be short-circuited – and, if so, how. Mentioned: Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right - Arlie HochschildThe Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism - Paul D. MillerJesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation - Kristin Kobes Du MezRecommended:The Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy - Philip S. Gorski and Samuel L. Perry-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramPost.newsYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork: Dovi Design **Music: Joystock

Today's episode is the final part of my three-part miniseries – my pursuit of understanding the far right nationalist movement that motivates Trump supporters, contemporary Republican voters. But, this phenomenon is not limited to the United States. There are companion movements, arguably more deeply rooted and historical, gaining traction in other countries – like Australia, South Korea, South Africa, and also across Europe, in places like Italy, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Denmark, and the UK. And, so today, I'm talking to Dr. Sasha Polakow-Suransky – Deputy Editor of Foreign Policy magazine and author of the 2017 book – Go Back to Where You Came From: The Backlash Against Immigration and the Fate of Western Democracy. We talk about the origins of nationalist movements, what has contributed to their rise, how politicians and activists have preyed upon and exploited very real concerns, twisting them into something violent and destructive for, not only the folks that exist outside of the in-group narrative, but of liberal democracy, maybe just democracy, itself. We also discuss why this matters and how to bring these people back into some sensible realm of policymaking that doesn't lay waste to the very values and principles that form the bedrock of our democratic systems. Mentioned: Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right - Arlie HochschildThe Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy - Philip S. Gorski and Samuel L. PerryForeign Policy MagazineRecommended:Go Back to Where You Came From: The Backlash Against Immigration and the Fate of Western Democracy - Sasha Polakow-Suranksy-------------------------Follow the Podcast:Instagram Twitter Email with any thoughts, comments, questions: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork by Dovi Design **Music by Joystock

Today's episode is the second of a three-part series that seeks to understand what underpins the Trumpism movement in the United States – who these voters are and what motivates them, and then how that fits into a broader global shift we're seeing - away from liberal democracy. Last week I spoke to Dr. Arlie Hochschild about her book Strangers in Their Own Land  to understand the paradox of conservative folks and their support for environmental policy that does tangible harm to them, their families and their communities.Today I'm talking to Dr. Philip Gorski, professor and sociologist at Yale University, and the co-author of the book The Flag and the Cross, which is the focus of our conversation. Together, we discuss another seeming paradox – why self-identified Christians align so closely with Trump who, for all intents and purposes, is not a true Christian. He certainly hasn't lived his life in accordance to scripture. And, so I wanna know how Christians square this alliance and this allegiance, how we got here, and if there is any chance that this relationship could be short-circuited – and, if so, how. Mentioned: Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right - Arlie HochschildThe Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism - Paul D. MillerJesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation - Kristin Kobes Du MezRecommended:The Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy - Philip S. Gorski and Samuel L. Perry-------------------------Follow the Podcast:Instagram Twitter Email with any thoughts, comments, questions: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork by Dovi Design **Music by Jo

Today marks the beginning of a new Deep Dive adventure - a miniseries! In pursuit of understanding conservative voters, especially nationalists - nationally and globally - over the next three episodes, I am talking to three researchers who have dove deep into this world, each contributing something unique and fascinating to the literature.In this first episode in the series, I'm talking to Dr. Arlie Hochschild, sociologist and professor at the University of California-Berkeley, about her book Strangers in Their Own Land. The book, published in 2016, chronicles her immersion in what would become Trump Country - deep red, rural Louisiana to understand what motivates their politics, their policy preferences, and their social outlook.  We talk about White, blue-collar people in the United States and how their deep story has morphed from one of loss, to one of having been stolen from; how Donald Trump harnessed and exploited that energy and gave it a focus and a target – immigrants, black folks, women, queer folks, the administrative state, and liberals; and how that culminated in an attack on the seat of democracy, the United States Capitol, on January 6th, 2021. Mentioned: Dignity in a Digital Age - Ro KhannaThe Big Sort: Why the Clustering of Like-Minded America is Tearing us Apart - Bill Bishop (with Robert G. Cushing)Recommended:Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right - Arlie Hochschild-------------------------Follow the Podcast:Instagram Twitter Email with any thoughts, comments, questions: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork by Dovi Design **Music by Joystock

Welcome to the first in a series of special Saga Briefs on Interpreting the Past, a series that looks at modern interpretations and perceptions of the medieval. In this episode, John and Andy welcome two scholars, Dr. Verena Höfig (Assistant Professor in the Department of Germanic Languages and Literatures at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign) and Zachary Melton (Ph.D. student at the University of Iceland). We cover a range of topics, including the appeal of Viking Age culture and mythology to modern religious and political movements; the role of literature, history, and social media in the construction of individual and group identities; and the challenges that we face, both as scholars and as citizens of this world, coming to terms with the many differences of interpretation that divide us.  As that list suggests, this isn't the usual light stroll through the sagas. This episode is short on jokes and heavy on substantive discussion of important issues. Whether you're an expert or an enthusiast, this one's worth your time. We hope you enjoy and we look forward to hearing your thoughts. Here is a bibliography of the texts and studies referred to, either directly or indirectly, in this episode: American Heathens: The Politics of Identity in a Pagan Religious Movement by Jennifer Snook “Ethnicity as Cognition” by Rogers Brubaker, Mara Loveman, and Peter Stamatov Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism by Mattias Gardell Huginn’s Heathen Hof and Declaration 127 Karl Seigfried on Ásatrú, Anti-Racism, and Rescuing the Past – quote taken from “What To Do When Racists Try To Hijack Your Religion” in The Atlantic Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild “William Cullen Bryant’s American Antiquities: Medievalism, Miscegenation and Race in The Prairies” by Andrew Galloway Music Credits Opening song – Icelandic Folk Music: Tröllaslagur Outro – Ólafur Liljurós

Arlie Hochschild discusses her book, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, reflecting on how 2020 has made our mutual political alienation worse, and how we can implement deep listening, emotion management, hospitality, and create shelters from shame. Interview by Evan Rosa.How to Give to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: faith.yale.edu/give We're passionate about making this work consistently accessible to a people who are genuinely concerned with he viability of faith in a world wracked with division, contested views about what it means to be human and what it means to live life well. If you're in a position to support our show financially, and are looking for some year end opportunities, please consider partnering with us. We rely on the generosity  of individuals like you to make our work possible. And if you're not, please continue listening and engaging the content and let us know what you're interested in. But if you can give, if you're truly passionate about supporting podcasting that's all about pursuing—really living—lives that are worthy of our humanity, then consider a gift to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture. Visit faith.yale.edu/give (or find the link in the show notes) to make a year end contribution. It's our joy to bring these shows to you; and we'd invite you into that same joy of supporting this work. As always, thanks for listening, and we'll be back with more, next week.Episode IntroductionHow do we understand each other's political lives? It's all too easy to depend on the consistent narratives of bafflement at the political stranger. How could you possibly have voted for [fill in the blank]. I have no idea how you could support [you know who]. Maybe to stay baffled is a defense mechanism. It keeps the stranger strange. If you rely consistently on your inability to fathom another's behavior or reasons or motivations—or the fears that underlie them all—maybe that helps you cope a little better.Our guest on the show today turned off all her alarms, set aside the narrative of confusion, and set out to learn about the political other, when around 10 years ago, she began regular visits to Lake Charles, Louisiana, a working class Tea Party stronghold that followed suit with Trump support in 2016—suspicious of the government, struggling for their economic flourishing, feeling the whole time that they were being cut in line, that they were unseen, unrecognized, dishonored, alienated in a hidden social class war.Sociologist Arlie Hochschild is Professor Emerita in Sociology at the University of California Berkeley and author of Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right. In this episode, I ask Arlie about her experience of intentionally identifying her own ideological bubble, forging out to scale a wall of division, bafflement and hostility to find empathy, turning off her political and moral alarms and attuning her mind to hear the desires that inform the deep story of her friends in Louisiana. We discuss political division, resentment, and alienation; how the Trump presidency and subsequent 2020 loss to Biden has continued to make strangers in their own land; she explains the emotional roots of political beliefs and tribalism—especially those held by her conservative friends, the blind spots of progressive views of conservatives, and finally curiosity, humility, emotion management, and putting oneself in perspective. Thanks for listening. —Evan Rosa, from the introductionShow NotesHow Arlie Hochschild decided to reach out to Tea Party Republicans from within her media bubble, befriend them, and then write a book about understanding how emotion informs political anger, resentment, and Trump supportThe paradox of biting the hand that feeds youMoving beyond political appearances and surface tensionsHow to create a shelter from shame in order to connect and disagree in fruitful waysWhat it was like to cross the empathy bridge, to meet people who live in a different bubble, who live with a different sense of what is trueMeeting Republican women in Lake Charles, LouisianaThe appeal of Rush Limbaugh: fighting against “feminazis,” “environmental wackos,” and “socialists.” And the deepest reason: protecting southern Republicans from the shame of coastal elites Turning off one's alarm system for the sake of genuine encounter across division, deep listeningWhen to turn the alarm system back on“Things have grown worse”: One's own government as a foreign occupying forceThe deep story: we can't do politics without understanding the deep mythology that informs it.The right wing deep story: Waiting and being cut in line, Obama's role, Trump's role, and liberation from shameShaming the shamers: Trump's appeal to those who have been "cut in line"Belong before you believe: How tribalism drives the political drama of AmericaThe religious overtones of Trumpism: Trump has connected with Hochschild's friends in Louisiana not only as their liberator, but their righteous sufferer, their shelter from shame.A giant, hostile shame machine: counter-shaming has a backfire effect: “Our shelter from shame is being attacked by the shamers."What is the greatest felt need for political combatants? What will discuss the vicious cycle?Recognition of the other across disagreement; finding an opportunity for common ground that we so dearly need right now; encountering the better angels of the political otherBlind spots: Social class, particular economic value, and the wonder inspired by the skill of the working classThe Virtues of Climbing the Empathy Wall and Encountering Others' Deep Stories: Curiosity, Humility, Emotion Management as a Service to Society, Putting Oneself in PerspectiveRecalling the feeling of being a stranger in order to practice an emotional hospitality that makes space for the deep stories of the other

Evangelical Christians donate more to charity than most other groups. Yet, white evangelicals predominately vote for candidates who do not want to increase welfare spending. In this episode we explore the attitude of the Christian Right towards welfare. Show Notes: Arlie Hochschild, “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right” Lydia Bean, “The Politics of Evangelical Identity: Local Churches and Partisan Divides in the United States and Canada” President Trump Says ‘It's Time for Americans To Get Off Of Welfare', https://youtu.be/sYoU__o6azU Fox News: Creating Dependency, https://youtu.be/RRPfRkR-TOI --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/transformingamerica/message

Members of the Christian Right have been known to deny human-involvement in Climate Change. But how can they rationalize a lack of effort to make a change when they personally suffer from it's effects? Show Notes: Arlie Hochschild, “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Zdx97A63s&ab_channel=TheDailyShowwithTrevorNoah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsUlVk__2sM&ab_channel=TheGuardian https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/07/median-household-income-in-every-us-state-from-the-census-bureau.html https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/welfare-recipients-by-state "Miami Viceroy" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/transformingamerica/message

Donald Trump is a vulgar, hardcore businessman who speaks his mind, no matter who will get offended. Keeping that in mind, how did he manage to gain the support of the Christian Right. This episode dives deeper into the methods he used to secure his place as President of the United States. Show Notes: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/christian-right-worships-donald-trump-915381/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/09/us/evangelicals-trump-christianity.html Hochschild, Arlie Russell. 2016. Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right. New York: The New Press. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTACH1eVIaA&ab_channel=CNN --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/transformingamerica/message

After Arlie Hochschild published her book Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, just before the 2016 election, it came to feel prescient. And the conversation Krista had with her in 2018 has now come to point straight to the heart of 2020 — a year in which many of us might say we feel like strangers in our own land and in our own world. Hochschild created a field within sociology looking at the social impact of emotion. She explains how our stories and truths — what we try to debate as issues in our social and political lives — are felt, not merely factual. And she shares why, as a matter of pragmatism, we have to take emotion seriously and do what feels unnatural: get curious and caring about the other side.Arlie Hochschild is professor emerita in the sociology department at the University of California, Berkeley. She is the author of ten books including The Managed Heart, The Second Shift, and Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, a finalist for the National Book Award.Find the transcript for this show at onbeing.org.This show originally aired in October, 2018.

After Arlie Hochschild published her book Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, just before the 2016 election, it came to feel prescient. And the conversation Krista had with her in 2018 has now come to point straight to the heart of 2020 — a year in which many of us might say we feel like strangers in our own land and in our own world. Hochschild created a field within sociology looking at the social impact of emotion. She explains how our stories and truths — what we try to debate as issues in our social and political lives — are felt, not merely factual. And she shares why, as a matter of pragmatism, we have to take emotion seriously and do what feels unnatural: get curious and caring about the other side.Arlie Hochschild is professor emerita in the sociology department at the University of California, Berkeley. She is the author of ten books including The Managed Heart, The Second Shift, and Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, a finalist for the National Book Award.This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Arlie Hochschild — The Deep Stories of Our Time." Find the transcript for that show at onbeing.org.

Jen is joined by prolific writers Lauren Winner and Marilyn McEntyre for a thoughtful and wide-ranging conversation about the role of words, empathy and reading during such a disorienting season.Marilyn McEntyre has spent many years teaching American literature, Medical Humanities, and a variety of writing courses. She's recently left full-time teaching to spend more time writing. She is the author of 14 books, which include Caring for Words in a Culture of Lies, Make a List, Word by Word, and A Long Letting Go. On her website, she writes that her deepest interests lie in connections between spirituality, language, healing earth and each other. You can learn more about her work at www.marilynmcentrye.com. Lauren Winner is Associate Professor of Christian Spirituality at Duke Divinity School. She writes and lectures widely on Christian practice, the history of Christianity in America, and Jewish-Christian relations. Her books include Girl Meets God, Mudhouse Sabbath, Still, and Wearing God. Her most recently published book, The Dangers of Christian Practice, examines the effects of sin and damage on Christian practice. Dr. Winner, an Episcopal priest, is vicar of St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Louisburg, N.C. Books mentioned in this episode:Caring for Words in a Culture of Lies by Marilyn McEntyreMake a List: How a Simple Practice Can Change Our Lives and Open Hearts by Marilyn McEntyreWord by Word: A Daily Spiritual Practice by Marilyn McEntyreA Long Letting Go: Meditations on Losing Someone You Love by Marilyn McEntyreWhen Poets Pray by Marilyn McEntyreGirl Meets God: On the Path to a Spiritual Life by Lauren WinnerMudhouse Sabbath: An Invitation to a Life of Spiritual Discipline by Lauren WinnerThe Dangers of Christian Practice: On Wayward Gifts, Characteristic Damage, and Sin by Lauren WinnerA Chill in the Air: An Italian War Diary by Iris OrigoRevelations of Divine Love by Julian of NorwichNo Logo by Naomi KleinShock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by Naomi KleinThis Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate by Naomi KleinThe Overstory by Richard PowersOn Immunity: An Inoculation by Eula BissStrangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell HochschildChristian: The Politics of a Word in America by Matthew BowmanStill Evangelical?: Insiders Reconsider Political, Social and Theological Meaning by Mark Labberton, Shane Claiborne, et al.The Hidden Gospel: Decoding the Spiritual Message of the Aramaic Jesus by Neil Douglas-KlotzStill by Lauren WinnerEndless Life: Poems of the Mystics by Scott CairnsGood Poems by Garrison KeillorGood Poems for Hard Times by Garrison KeillorEnduring Ties: Poems of Family Relationships by Grant HardyRavishing DisUnities: Real Ghazals in English by Agha Shahid Ali

“Everyone has a deep story,” says Arlie Hochschild. “Our job is to respect and try to understand these stories.”  Hochschild is one of the most distinguished sociologists of our time. Considered the founder of the “sociology of emotion,” she examines some of the most urgent challenges our societies face: work-family balance, shifting gender roles, alienation, globalization, and the ever-widening political divide. Throughout these issues, she studies how we feel about things, what we think we should feel, and why. Why do people choose what they choose? What are the invisible forces behind our actions? What are the emotional costs, if any? And most recently, why does it seem like people vote against their own interests?  In addition to being professor emerita of sociology at the University of California, Berkeley, she is the author of 10 paradigm-shifting books which include The Managed Heart, The Time Bind, The Second Shift, and most recently, a New York Times bestseller and finalist for the National Book Award, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right. Hochschild was born in Boston, MA, to parents who served in the foreign service. She came of age in Israel, New Zealand, Ghana, and Tunisia, and also had the influence of her parents’ devout Unitarianism. This combination seemed to have sparked her inquisitive and empathic mind, which she playfully told in a semi-autobiographical children’s book, Colleen the Question Girl. Most of her adult life has been lived in the San Francisco Bay Area, in what she calls a “blue bubble.” So it’s no surprise that her latest questions concern the growing polarities in American politics, with a special focus on the rise of the American right.   In doing research for Strangers in Their Own Land, she immersed herself in southwest Louisiana, a Tea Party stronghold at the height of that movement. “I got very interested in something I call ‘the deep story,’” Hochschild says, “a way of thinking about emotion, stripped of facts and judgments, into an account of life that feels true, often best captured through metaphor.” She was determined to get out of her comfort zone and climb what she calls “an empathy wall,” to permit herself a great deal of curiosity about the experiences and viewpoints of people she knew she would have differences with. She observed their physical landscapes, religious influences, and social environments, and in the end, became friends with many of those she interviewed. “Caring,” she insists, “is not the same as capitulating. The relationships in Louisiana enlarged me as a human being.”  When she’s not busy writing about the layered and often tumultuous human dynamics that comprise the fabric of modern life, she can be found digging in her garden, hiking with her husband, the historian Adam Hochschild, or engaging in a creative project with their two granddaughters.   Please join us for a conversation with this visionary sociologist to help illuminate the deep stories of our times, the deep stories of ourselves. 

Listening to others | Arlie Hochschild is Professor Emerita of Sociology at the University of California, Berkeley. Her recent work deals with the rise of the American far-right. Her book, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, was built on interviews with Tea Party supporters in Louisiana. For Hochschild, it is important to understand the feelings behind political views, though listening and feeling empathy does not imply agreement. If Americans are to reconcile their differences, she argues, more people must learn how to listen to views they might not agree with.

As America enters the final stretch of the 2020 election, many of the debates and issues that continue to dominate the campaign at the national and local levels stem from a resurgent global right-wing populism that led to the election of Donald Trump in 2016. Four years later, this aggressive form of right-wing populism, infused with xenophobic nationalism, remains a powerful influence in the United States and around the world. Perhaps no one knows these issues better than Lawrence Rosenthal, the founder of the University of California Berkley's Center for Right-Wing Studies. In his new book Empire of Resentment: Populism's Toxic Embrace of Nationalism, Rosenthal paints a vivid sociological, political and psychological picture of the transnational quality of this movement, which is now in power in at least a dozen countries. In America and abroad, the current mobilization of right-wing populism has given life to long marginalized threats like white supremacy and anti-immigration fervor. In 2016, renowned UC Berkeley professor Arlie Hochschild was among the first major sociologists to help explain Trump's election. Her award-winning book, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, helped readers understand why so many American voters were attracted to Trump's populist message and its negative undertones. Please join us for a special conversation between two UC Berkeley stars—Rosenthal and Hochschild—as they discuss the how the transformation of the American far right made the Trump presidency possible—and what it portends for the future just two months out from the 2020 election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPEAKERS Lawrence Rosenthal Founder, Berkeley Center for Right-Wing Studies; Author, Empire of Resentment: Populism’s Toxic Embrace of Nationalism Arlie Hochschild Professor Emerita, University of California Berkeley; Author, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right—Moderator In response to the Coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak, this program took place and was recorded live via video conference, for an online audience only, and was live-streamed by The Commonwealth Club of California from San Francisco on September 9th, 2020.

Jefferson CowieJefferson’s recent New York Times Piece “The ‘Hard Hat Riot’ Was a Preview of Today’s Political Divisions”The illuminating CASBS symposium “_Contesting the Nation_”, with Jefferson Cowie, Kathleen Belew, and Catherine RamírezRichard Rorty, CASBS fellow 1982-83 “Achieving Our Country”Donald F. Kettl’s “The Divided States of America: Why Federalism Doesn’t Work”Arlie Russell Hochschild’s “Stranger in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right”Thomas Piketty’s “Capital in the 21st Century”Special thanks to CASBS staff member Paola Dios for the opening the episode!Visit CASBS on the webFollow CASBS on Twitter

Editor-in-chief Nathan J. Robinson sits down with legendary sociologist and writer Arlie Hochschild. Together, they discuss her book Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right, based on her experiences in the Tea Party stronghold of Lake Charles, Louisiana. This episode is a preview of an episode available in full to our Patreon subscribers. To gain full access to this episode, as well as lots of other exclusive bonus content, please consider becoming one of our subscribers at www.patreon.com/Current Affairs!

Identity Crisis is the most important book written on the 2016 election. Based on reams of data covering virtually every controversy, theory, and explanation for the outcome, it settles many of the debates that have raged over the past two years. More importantly, it offers a framework for thinking about American politics in this era. The authors — political scientists John Sides, Michael Tesler, and Lynn Vavreck — show how identity drives American politics, why our political identities are getting stronger and angrier, and how the Obama and Trump eras have changed our parties and made conflict more irresolvable. Only some of the conversations I have on this show really change how I think about politics, but this was one of them. Don’t miss it. Recommended books:  Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild Divided by Color by Donald Kinder The American Voter by Angus Campbell, Philip E. Converse, Warren E. Miller, and Donald E. Stokes  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Red states, blue states – when it comes to our environment, are we really two different Americas? New Yorker writer Eliza Griswold spent time in southwestern Pennsylvania to tell the story of a family living on the front lines of the fracking boom. Berkeley professor Arlie Hochschild traveled to Louisiana to escape what she calls the “bubble” of coastal thinking. Both writers emerged with books that paint an honest portrait of a misunderstood America. On today’s program, tales of the people whose lives have been impacted by America’s craving for energy, the choices they’ve made, and their fight to protect their families and their environment. Guests: Eliza Griswold, Journalist, The New Yorker; Author, “Amity and Prosperity: One Family and the Fracturing of America” (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2018) Arlie Russell Hochschild, Professor Emerita, University of California Berkeley; Author, “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right” (The New Press, 2018)

A creator of the field of the sociology of emotion. Treating emotion seriously in our life together. “I could see what they couldn’t see but not what I couldn’t see.” Our stories as “felt” not merely factual. Caring is not the same as capitulating. One of the voices many have been turning to in recent years is Arlie Hochschild. She helped create the field of the sociology of emotion — our stories as “felt” rather than merely factual. When she published her book, “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,” in the fall of 2016, it felt like she had chronicled the human dynamics that have now come to upend American culture. It was based on five years of friendship and research in Tea Party country at that movement’s height, far from her home in Berkeley, California. Her understanding of emotion in society and politics feels even more important at this juncture. So does the reflective, self-critical sensibility this experience gave Arlie Hochschild on her own liberal instincts. Caring, she says, is not the same as capitulating. Arlie Hochschild is professor emerita in the Sociology Department at the University of California, Berkeley. She is the author of nine books including “The Managed Heart,” “The Second Shift,” and “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,” a finalist for the National Book Award. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Arlie Hochschild — Arlie Hochschild — On the Deep Story of Our Time.” Find more at onbeing.org.

A creator of the field of the sociology of emotion. Treating emotion seriously in our life together. “I could see what they couldn’t see but not what I couldn’t see.” Our stories as “felt” not merely factual. Caring is not the same as capitulating. One of the voices many have been turning to in recent years is Arlie Hochschild. She helped create the field of the sociology of emotion — our stories as “felt” rather than merely factual. When she published her book, “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,” in the fall of 2016, it felt like she had chronicled the human dynamics that have now come to upend American culture. It was based on five years of friendship and research in Tea Party country at that movement’s height, far from her home in Berkeley, California. Her understanding of emotion in society and politics feels even more important at this juncture. So does the reflective, self-critical sensibility this experience gave Arlie Hochschild on her own liberal instincts. Caring, she says, is not the same as capitulating. Arlie Hochschild is professor emerita in the Sociology Department at the University of California, Berkeley. She is the author of nine books including “The Managed Heart,” “The Second Shift,” and “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,” a finalist for the National Book Award. Find the transcript for this show at onbeing.org.

Greening the Military / Solar Eclipsing Coal in Jobs / India's Renewable Energy Revolution / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right Renewable energy to the rescue: In the U.S. military, hybrid vehicles and innovations like 'solar blankets' can improve operations, and even save the lives of soldiers. Also, in the U.S., coal still produces far more energy than solar. But solar already employs twice as many people as the coal industry does, and some former coal miners are becoming solar technicians. And India is leading the world in slashing carbon emissions as it undertakes a renewable energy revolution. Those stories and more, in this installment of Living on Earth from PRI.

Greening the Military / Solar Eclipsing Coal in Jobs / India's Renewable Energy Revolution / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right Renewable energy to the rescue: In the U.S. military, hybrid vehicles and innovations like 'solar blankets' can improve operations, and even save the lives of soldiers. Also, in the U.S., coal still produces far more energy than solar. But solar already employs twice as many people as the coal industry does, and some former coal miners are becoming solar technicians. And India is leading the world in slashing carbon emissions as it undertakes a renewable energy revolution. Those stories and more, in this installment of Living on Earth from PRI.

Greening the Military / Solar Eclipsing Coal in Jobs / India's Renewable Energy Revolution / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right Renewable energy to the rescue: In the U.S. military, hybrid vehicles and innovations like 'solar blankets' can improve operations, and even save the lives of soldiers. Also, in the U.S., coal still produces far more energy than solar. But solar already employs twice as many people as the coal industry does, and some former coal miners are becoming solar technicians. And India is leading the world in slashing carbon emissions as it undertakes a renewable energy revolution. Those stories and more, in this installment of Living on Earth from PRI.

Greening the Military / Solar Eclipsing Coal in Jobs / India's Renewable Energy Revolution / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right Renewable energy to the rescue: In the U.S. military, hybrid vehicles and innovations like 'solar blankets' can improve operations, and even save the lives of soldiers. Also, in the U.S., coal still produces far more energy than solar. But solar already employs twice as many people as the coal industry does, and some former coal miners are becoming solar technicians. And India is leading the world in slashing carbon emissions as it undertakes a renewable energy revolution. Those stories and more, in this installment of Living on Earth from PRI.

This week on Sinica, Kaiser and Jeremy chat with David Brophy, senior lecturer in modern Chinese history at the University of Sydney and a prominent scholar on Xinjiang, and with Andrew Chubb, a post-doc fellow this year at the Princeton-Harvard China and the World Program, about the response to China’s alleged influence operations in Australia. David and Andrew were both signatories to one of two “dueling open letters” addressing the issue; the one they signed warned of the dangers of overreaction. Recommendations: Jeremy: Bruce Lee: A Life, by Matthew Polly. David: Two pieces on China’s re-education camps for muslims in Xinjiang: “New Evidence for China’s Political Re-Education Campaign in Xinjiang,” by Adrian Zenz, and Rian Thum’s follow up piece in the New York Times. Andrew: The Asia Power Index, by the Lowy Institute. It allows you to interact and play around with the ratings and measures that go into the somewhat arbitrary calculation of power and influence, and includes interesting metrics such as a “Google rating” of just the raw number of Google searches for the country, and the extent of visa-free entry agreements. Kaiser: Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right Paperback, by Arlie Russell Hochschild, an excellent example among the many books that attempt to explain the mindset of the kind of people who voted for Trump.

Since it was published in 2016, Arlie Russell Hochschild‘s Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right (The New Press, 2016) has been many times heralded as necessary reading for our current political moment. For her perceptive and dramatic account of a Berkeley sociologist's exploration of Tea Party enthusiasm in coastal Louisiana, Dr. Hochschild received honors and awards from many directions, including a spot as a finalist for the national book award. Now released in paperback in January 2018, Dr. Hochschild's book includes a new afterword, and continues to stand as both a moving narrative portrait of a political community and a strong example of scholarly work at the crossroads of academic research and public discourse. Using environmental policy as her keyhole issue, Dr. Hochschild articulates the logic that structures a “great paradox”: states which receive the highest levels of financial support from the federal government are also home to the deepest wells of resentment against government intervention in private life. Dr. Hochschild's work discloses an emotional “deep story” that shapes the political imagination of her Tea Party interlocutors, the feeling that deserving Americans are pushed to the back of the line for the American Dream. Tracing the open rhetoric and the social silences that reveal the shape of a community's political imagination, Dr. Hochschild's research speaks to the roles of race and religion in forming the foundation of American politics. Her interviewees were mostly white, and mostly Christian. In exploring the ways in which the Tea Party deep story manifests a resentment against government work to curb irresponsible private power and provide public support for disadvantaged Americans, Strangers in Their Own Land chronicles Dr. Hochschild's attempts to climb the “empathy walls” that surround and isolate communities sharply defined by ideological allegiance and disavowed histories of misused power. Along the way, Strangers in Their Own Land recounts the intellectual, political, and economic history that lies behind the great paradox of our current political crisis, and profiles figures who may offer us a way out of the bind. For this interview, I asked Dr. Hochschild to speak to the process of writing a book for multiple audiences in a partisan climate. When researching and writing this book in the years leading up to the 2016 election, who did she imagine as her readers and what did she hope they would take away from her project? Our conversation covers the place of this book in the trajectory of her career, the difficulty of turning off the ethical “alarm system” while conducting interviews, structuring an academic book to capture the drama of a research question, and the principles that Dr. Hochschild believes activists can use to build momentum in the coming months. Carl Nellis is an academic editor and writing instructor who researches contemporary American community formation around appropriations of medieval European culture. You can learn more about Carl's work and request an editorial consultation at carlnellis.wordpress.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Since it was published in 2016, Arlie Russell Hochschild‘s Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right (The New Press, 2016) has been many times heralded as necessary reading for our current political moment. For her perceptive and dramatic account of a Berkeley sociologist’s exploration of... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Since it was published in 2016, Arlie Russell Hochschild‘s Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right (The New Press, 2016) has been many times heralded as necessary reading for our current political moment. For her perceptive and dramatic account of a Berkeley sociologist’s exploration of Tea Party enthusiasm in coastal Louisiana, Dr. Hochschild received honors and awards from many directions, including a spot as a finalist for the national book award. Now released in paperback in January 2018, Dr. Hochschild’s book includes a new afterword, and continues to stand as both a moving narrative portrait of a political community and a strong example of scholarly work at the crossroads of academic research and public discourse. Using environmental policy as her keyhole issue, Dr. Hochschild articulates the logic that structures a “great paradox”: states which receive the highest levels of financial support from the federal government are also home to the deepest wells of resentment against government intervention in private life. Dr. Hochschild’s work discloses an emotional “deep story” that shapes the political imagination of her Tea Party interlocutors, the feeling that deserving Americans are pushed to the back of the line for the American Dream. Tracing the open rhetoric and the social silences that reveal the shape of a community’s political imagination, Dr. Hochschild’s research speaks to the roles of race and religion in forming the foundation of American politics. Her interviewees were mostly white, and mostly Christian. In exploring the ways in which the Tea Party deep story manifests a resentment against government work to curb irresponsible private power and provide public support for disadvantaged Americans, Strangers in Their Own Land chronicles Dr. Hochschild’s attempts to climb the “empathy walls” that surround and isolate communities sharply defined by ideological allegiance and disavowed histories of misused power. Along the way, Strangers in Their Own Land recounts the intellectual, political, and economic history that lies behind the great paradox of our current political crisis, and profiles figures who may offer us a way out of the bind. For this interview, I asked Dr. Hochschild to speak to the process of writing a book for multiple audiences in a partisan climate. When researching and writing this book in the years leading up to the 2016 election, who did she imagine as her readers and what did she hope they would take away from her project? Our conversation covers the place of this book in the trajectory of her career, the difficulty of turning off the ethical “alarm system” while conducting interviews, structuring an academic book to capture the drama of a research question, and the principles that Dr. Hochschild believes activists can use to build momentum in the coming months. Carl Nellis is an academic editor and writing instructor who researches contemporary American community formation around appropriations of medieval European culture. You can learn more about Carl’s work and request an editorial consultation at carlnellis.wordpress.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Since it was published in 2016, Arlie Russell Hochschild‘s Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right (The New Press, 2016) has been many times heralded as necessary reading for our current political moment. For her perceptive and dramatic account of a Berkeley sociologist’s exploration of Tea Party enthusiasm in coastal Louisiana, Dr. Hochschild received honors and awards from many directions, including a spot as a finalist for the national book award. Now released in paperback in January 2018, Dr. Hochschild’s book includes a new afterword, and continues to stand as both a moving narrative portrait of a political community and a strong example of scholarly work at the crossroads of academic research and public discourse. Using environmental policy as her keyhole issue, Dr. Hochschild articulates the logic that structures a “great paradox”: states which receive the highest levels of financial support from the federal government are also home to the deepest wells of resentment against government intervention in private life. Dr. Hochschild’s work discloses an emotional “deep story” that shapes the political imagination of her Tea Party interlocutors, the feeling that deserving Americans are pushed to the back of the line for the American Dream. Tracing the open rhetoric and the social silences that reveal the shape of a community’s political imagination, Dr. Hochschild’s research speaks to the roles of race and religion in forming the foundation of American politics. Her interviewees were mostly white, and mostly Christian. In exploring the ways in which the Tea Party deep story manifests a resentment against government work to curb irresponsible private power and provide public support for disadvantaged Americans, Strangers in Their Own Land chronicles Dr. Hochschild’s attempts to climb the “empathy walls” that surround and isolate communities sharply defined by ideological allegiance and disavowed histories of misused power. Along the way, Strangers in Their Own Land recounts the intellectual, political, and economic history that lies behind the great paradox of our current political crisis, and profiles figures who may offer us a way out of the bind. For this interview, I asked Dr. Hochschild to speak to the process of writing a book for multiple audiences in a partisan climate. When researching and writing this book in the years leading up to the 2016 election, who did she imagine as her readers and what did she hope they would take away from her project? Our conversation covers the place of this book in the trajectory of her career, the difficulty of turning off the ethical “alarm system” while conducting interviews, structuring an academic book to capture the drama of a research question, and the principles that Dr. Hochschild believes activists can use to build momentum in the coming months. Carl Nellis is an academic editor and writing instructor who researches contemporary American community formation around appropriations of medieval European culture. You can learn more about Carl’s work and request an editorial consultation at carlnellis.wordpress.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Since it was published in 2016, Arlie Russell Hochschild‘s Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right (The New Press, 2016) has been many times heralded as necessary reading for our current political moment. For her perceptive and dramatic account of a Berkeley sociologist’s exploration of Tea Party enthusiasm in coastal Louisiana, Dr. Hochschild received honors and awards from many directions, including a spot as a finalist for the national book award. Now released in paperback in January 2018, Dr. Hochschild’s book includes a new afterword, and continues to stand as both a moving narrative portrait of a political community and a strong example of scholarly work at the crossroads of academic research and public discourse. Using environmental policy as her keyhole issue, Dr. Hochschild articulates the logic that structures a “great paradox”: states which receive the highest levels of financial support from the federal government are also home to the deepest wells of resentment against government intervention in private life. Dr. Hochschild’s work discloses an emotional “deep story” that shapes the political imagination of her Tea Party interlocutors, the feeling that deserving Americans are pushed to the back of the line for the American Dream. Tracing the open rhetoric and the social silences that reveal the shape of a community’s political imagination, Dr. Hochschild’s research speaks to the roles of race and religion in forming the foundation of American politics. Her interviewees were mostly white, and mostly Christian. In exploring the ways in which the Tea Party deep story manifests a resentment against government work to curb irresponsible private power and provide public support for disadvantaged Americans, Strangers in Their Own Land chronicles Dr. Hochschild’s attempts to climb the “empathy walls” that surround and isolate communities sharply defined by ideological allegiance and disavowed histories of misused power. Along the way, Strangers in Their Own Land recounts the intellectual, political, and economic history that lies behind the great paradox of our current political crisis, and profiles figures who may offer us a way out of the bind. For this interview, I asked Dr. Hochschild to speak to the process of writing a book for multiple audiences in a partisan climate. When researching and writing this book in the years leading up to the 2016 election, who did she imagine as her readers and what did she hope they would take away from her project? Our conversation covers the place of this book in the trajectory of her career, the difficulty of turning off the ethical “alarm system” while conducting interviews, structuring an academic book to capture the drama of a research question, and the principles that Dr. Hochschild believes activists can use to build momentum in the coming months. Carl Nellis is an academic editor and writing instructor who researches contemporary American community formation around appropriations of medieval European culture. You can learn more about Carl’s work and request an editorial consultation at carlnellis.wordpress.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Since it was published in 2016, Arlie Russell Hochschild‘s Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right (The New Press, 2016) has been many times heralded as necessary reading for our current political moment. For her perceptive and dramatic account of a Berkeley sociologist’s exploration of Tea Party enthusiasm in coastal Louisiana, Dr. Hochschild received honors and awards from many directions, including a spot as a finalist for the national book award. Now released in paperback in January 2018, Dr. Hochschild’s book includes a new afterword, and continues to stand as both a moving narrative portrait of a political community and a strong example of scholarly work at the crossroads of academic research and public discourse. Using environmental policy as her keyhole issue, Dr. Hochschild articulates the logic that structures a “great paradox”: states which receive the highest levels of financial support from the federal government are also home to the deepest wells of resentment against government intervention in private life. Dr. Hochschild’s work discloses an emotional “deep story” that shapes the political imagination of her Tea Party interlocutors, the feeling that deserving Americans are pushed to the back of the line for the American Dream. Tracing the open rhetoric and the social silences that reveal the shape of a community’s political imagination, Dr. Hochschild’s research speaks to the roles of race and religion in forming the foundation of American politics. Her interviewees were mostly white, and mostly Christian. In exploring the ways in which the Tea Party deep story manifests a resentment against government work to curb irresponsible private power and provide public support for disadvantaged Americans, Strangers in Their Own Land chronicles Dr. Hochschild’s attempts to climb the “empathy walls” that surround and isolate communities sharply defined by ideological allegiance and disavowed histories of misused power. Along the way, Strangers in Their Own Land recounts the intellectual, political, and economic history that lies behind the great paradox of our current political crisis, and profiles figures who may offer us a way out of the bind. For this interview, I asked Dr. Hochschild to speak to the process of writing a book for multiple audiences in a partisan climate. When researching and writing this book in the years leading up to the 2016 election, who did she imagine as her readers and what did she hope they would take away from her project? Our conversation covers the place of this book in the trajectory of her career, the difficulty of turning off the ethical “alarm system” while conducting interviews, structuring an academic book to capture the drama of a research question, and the principles that Dr. Hochschild believes activists can use to build momentum in the coming months. Carl Nellis is an academic editor and writing instructor who researches contemporary American community formation around appropriations of medieval European culture. You can learn more about Carl’s work and request an editorial consultation at carlnellis.wordpress.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Since it was published in 2016, Arlie Russell Hochschild‘s Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right (The New Press, 2016) has been many times heralded as necessary reading for our current political moment. For her perceptive and dramatic account of a Berkeley sociologist’s exploration of Tea Party enthusiasm in coastal Louisiana, Dr. Hochschild received honors and awards from many directions, including a spot as a finalist for the national book award. Now released in paperback in January 2018, Dr. Hochschild’s book includes a new afterword, and continues to stand as both a moving narrative portrait of a political community and a strong example of scholarly work at the crossroads of academic research and public discourse. Using environmental policy as her keyhole issue, Dr. Hochschild articulates the logic that structures a “great paradox”: states which receive the highest levels of financial support from the federal government are also home to the deepest wells of resentment against government intervention in private life. Dr. Hochschild’s work discloses an emotional “deep story” that shapes the political imagination of her Tea Party interlocutors, the feeling that deserving Americans are pushed to the back of the line for the American Dream. Tracing the open rhetoric and the social silences that reveal the shape of a community’s political imagination, Dr. Hochschild’s research speaks to the roles of race and religion in forming the foundation of American politics. Her interviewees were mostly white, and mostly Christian. In exploring the ways in which the Tea Party deep story manifests a resentment against government work to curb irresponsible private power and provide public support for disadvantaged Americans, Strangers in Their Own Land chronicles Dr. Hochschild’s attempts to climb the “empathy walls” that surround and isolate communities sharply defined by ideological allegiance and disavowed histories of misused power. Along the way, Strangers in Their Own Land recounts the intellectual, political, and economic history that lies behind the great paradox of our current political crisis, and profiles figures who may offer us a way out of the bind. For this interview, I asked Dr. Hochschild to speak to the process of writing a book for multiple audiences in a partisan climate. When researching and writing this book in the years leading up to the 2016 election, who did she imagine as her readers and what did she hope they would take away from her project? Our conversation covers the place of this book in the trajectory of her career, the difficulty of turning off the ethical “alarm system” while conducting interviews, structuring an academic book to capture the drama of a research question, and the principles that Dr. Hochschild believes activists can use to build momentum in the coming months. Carl Nellis is an academic editor and writing instructor who researches contemporary American community formation around appropriations of medieval European culture. You can learn more about Carl’s work and request an editorial consultation at carlnellis.wordpress.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our culture often teaches us to be uncomfortable with emotions, to avoid them, and to set them aside when making important decisions. But neuroscience would have us see them in a different way. In this episode, empathy researcher Karla McLaren invites us to see emotions as data, as fundamental aspects of our intelligence, and inescapable parts of our cognition. Whether you like it or not, your emotions are always at play. But the good news is, Karla can help us understand the wisdom that they bring and what a gift our emotions truly are.   Guest Bio Karla McLaren, M.Ed. is an award-winning author, social science researcher, and empathy pioneer. Her lifelong work focuses on her grand unified theory of emotions, which revalues even the most “negative” emotions and opens startling new pathways into self-awareness, effective communication, and healthy empathy. Karla is the author of The Art of Empathy: A Complete Guide to Life’s Most Essential Skill (2013), The Language of Emotions: What Your Feelings are Trying to Tell You (2010), and the multi-media online course Emotional Flow: Becoming Fluent in the Language of Emotions (2012). She has taught at University of San Francisco, Omega Institute, Naropa University, Kripalu Center, Hollyhock Learning Centre, and the Association for Humanistic Psychology. Her applied work, Dynamic Emotional Integration (also known as DEI) is a trailblazing approach to emotions and empathy that reveals the genius and the healing power within the emotional realm. Licensed DEI Trainers and Consultants are available in the United States and internationally. Karla has also developed the groundbreaking Six Essential Aspects of Empathy model that highlights all of the processes in healthy empathy and makes them easily understandable, accessible, and attainable. This fully realized model teaches people how to access, develop, and manage their empathy intentionally. It also explicitly welcomes people who have been exiled from earlier models of empathy (such as men, boys, and autistic people). With her husband, Tino Plank MA, MSN, RN, Karla developed the Healthy Empathy® program. Healthy Empathy® helps health and healing professionals develop healthy and sustainable empathy and compassion skills in their practice, in their workplace, and in their lives. Learn more at https://karlamclaren.com/.   Mentioned in This Episode Raising Happiness: 10 Simple Steps for More Joyful Kids and Happier Parents Paperback by Christine Carter Ph.D. Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild The Gift of Fear and Other Survival Signals that Protect Us From Violence by Gavin de Becker   Connect with the 60 Mindful Minutes podcast   Web: https://kristenmanieri.com  Email: Kristen@kristenmanieri.com    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/60MindfulMinutes Instagram: @kristenmanieri_ 

Conversations host Harry Kreisler welcomes Professor Arlie Hochschild for a discussion of her book "Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right." Hochschild discusses formative influences shaping her intellectual journey, describes her pioneering work on the sociology of emotions, and traces the evolution of her methodology. She then explains the decision to pursue her study of the American right in Louisiana beginning in 2011; how she undertook an empathetic engagement with citizens devastated by pollution but committed to the oil and gas industry; and how she developed a deep story to explain the emotions motivating her subjects to support right wing perspectives despite the devastation of the environment which they appreciated and loved. She also discusses their attraction to the Trump phenomena. She concludes with the lessons learned and their implications for mending the divide that is tearing the country apart. Series: "Conversations with History" [Public Affairs] [Humanities] [Show ID: 32994]

Conversations host Harry Kreisler welcomes Professor Arlie Hochschild for a discussion of her book "Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right." Hochschild discusses formative influences shaping her intellectual journey, describes her pioneering work on the sociology of emotions, and traces the evolution of her methodology. She then explains the decision to pursue her study of the American right in Louisiana beginning in 2011; how she undertook an empathetic engagement with citizens devastated by pollution but committed to the oil and gas industry; and how she developed a deep story to explain the emotions motivating her subjects to support right wing perspectives despite the devastation of the environment which they appreciated and loved. She also discusses their attraction to the Trump phenomena. She concludes with the lessons learned and their implications for mending the divide that is tearing the country apart. Series: "Conversations with History" [Public Affairs] [Humanities] [Show ID: 32994]

Conversations host Harry Kreisler welcomes Professor Arlie Hochschild for a discussion of her book "Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right." Hochschild discusses formative influences shaping her intellectual journey, describes her pioneering work on the sociology of emotions, and traces the evolution of her methodology. She then explains the decision to pursue her study of the American right in Louisiana beginning in 2011; how she undertook an empathetic engagement with citizens devastated by pollution but committed to the oil and gas industry; and how she developed a deep story to explain the emotions motivating her subjects to support right wing perspectives despite the devastation of the environment which they appreciated and loved. She also discusses their attraction to the Trump phenomena. She concludes with the lessons learned and their implications for mending the divide that is tearing the country apart. Series: "Conversations with History" [Public Affairs] [Humanities] [Show ID: 32994]

Conversations host Harry Kreisler welcomes Professor Arlie Hochschild for a discussion of her book "Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right." Hochschild discusses formative influences shaping her intellectual journey, describes her pioneering work on the sociology of emotions, and traces the evolution of her methodology. She then explains the decision to pursue her study of the American right in Louisiana beginning in 2011; how she undertook an empathetic engagement with citizens devastated by pollution but committed to the oil and gas industry; and how she developed a deep story to explain the emotions motivating her subjects to support right wing perspectives despite the devastation of the environment which they appreciated and loved. She also discusses their attraction to the Trump phenomena. She concludes with the lessons learned and their implications for mending the divide that is tearing the country apart. Series: "Conversations with History" [Public Affairs] [Humanities] [Show ID: 32994]

Arlie Russell Hochschild spent five years in some of the most polluted parishes of Louisiana trying to find out why some of the people whose lives have been ravaged by the oil and petrochemical industry are deeply hostile to environmental regulation. She is the author of Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right.    

Some have argued that Donald Trump was propelled into office by people who have been characterized as discouraged and depressed by a world that no longer feels like their own. But what was it about Donald Trump’s motto, “Make America Great Again,” that captured the attention of so many who voted for him? In this episode, Professors Julian Zelizer and Sam Wang interview Arlie Russell Hochschild, a sociologist who traveled deep into the heart of the “American Right.” Hochschild’s five-year journey culminated in the bestselling book, “Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right,” a National Book Award finalist. Hochschild is professor emerita of sociology at the University of California, Berkeley. She is the author of nine books, and three of her books have been named by The New York Times as Notable Books of the Year. She is the winner of the Ulysses Medal as well as Guggenheim and Mellon grants.

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U.S. Nixes G20 Climate Finance Declaration / Science Note: Enduring Swifts / El Niño Returns? / The Place Where You Live: The American River, Sacramento, CA / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right

U.S. Nixes G20 Climate Finance Declaration / Science Note: Enduring Swifts / El Niño Returns? / The Place Where You Live: The American River, Sacramento, CA / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right

U.S. Nixes G20 Climate Finance Declaration / Science Note: Enduring Swifts / El Niño Returns? / The Place Where You Live: The American River, Sacramento, CA / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right

U.S. Nixes G20 Climate Finance Declaration / Science Note: Enduring Swifts / El Niño Returns? / The Place Where You Live: The American River, Sacramento, CA / Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right

Sarah chats with Megan Hart, the founder of our Pantsuit Politics Book Club, to talk about the February book club pick, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild. They discuss Hochschild's trip deep into Tea Party country and what she learned about their "deep story".   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Sociologist and professor emerita at UC Berkeley, Arlie Russell Hochschild, talks about her new book Strangers in Their Own Land- Anger and Mourning on the American Right with MTTM host Lisa Kiefer.TRANSCRIPTLisa Kiefer: [00:00:00] Method to the madness is next. You're listening to Method to the Madness. A weekly public affairs show on KALX celebrating Bay Area innovators. I'm your host, Lisa Kiefer. And today, I'm interviewing award winning author and sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild, professor emerita here at UC Berkeley. One of the most innovative and productive feminist sociologists for the last 30 years. Her latest book, Strangers in their Own Land-- Anger and Mourning on the American Right was nominated for National Book in 2016. Welcome to the program.Arlie Hochschild: [00:00:39] Thank you.Lisa Kiefer: [00:00:40] You're known or you're called the founder of the Sociology of Emotion. You draw links between private troubles and social and political issues. Since Thomas Frank wrote the book What's the Matter with Kansas, a lot of people have been examining all this, but nobody's looked at it in an emotional way like you have.Arlie Hochschild: [00:00:57] I had a feeling that underneath all the words that people say about policies and candidates was feeling grounded in their deep experience. I came to wonder it's it's really about feelings. And the only way, best way to get at those feelings is to figure out what I came to call the deep story a story that feels true to you and you take the facts out of it. You take the moral judgments out of it. It's what feels true and that determines where you feel resentful, how you feel envious, how you feel fearful, anxious. It all emanates from that deep story and I think left, right and center, we've all got a deep story.Lisa Kiefer: [00:01:41] You explore this deep story through what you call a paradox in the bayou country of Louisiana.Arlie Hochschild: [00:01:48] Yes. In 2011, I already had a feeling that we were in a period of deep political divide and the sides were getting further and further apart. There was kind of a hardening of sides. And it wasn't because the left was getting more left. It was because the right was getting more right. And I also experienced myself as in an enclave here at Berkeley, California, where I have long taught sociology. And I felt in a geographic enclave, a technological enclave and in a media enclave. And I figured I'd have to get out of that enclave and go as far as I could to a place that was as far right as Berkeley, California, is left.Lisa Kiefer: [00:02:33] What did you use to figure that out?Arlie Hochschild: [00:02:35] I looked at the 2012 results. Reelection of Barack Obama and the proportion of whites voting for that re-election in California was about half. And in the south as a whole region, it was a third. And in Louisiana, it was 14 percent of whites voted in 2012 for Barack Obama. OK, perfect. Louisiana is the super south. That's where I want to go. And who do I want to talk to there? I want to talk to people who are white, older, religious, evangelical, if possible. But mainly I'm looking for people who are enthusiastic believers in the Tea Party 2011. That's who I was talking to. I interviewed over five year period 60 people, 40 of whom were very enthusiastic Tea Party people who eventually, virtually all voted for Donald Trump. I didn't know that going in. He wasn't on the scene. But at the very end of my research in March of 2016, he came for a primary rally in New Orleans. And I had an epiphany. I realized that over five years I'd been really getting to know some quite wonderful, complex people who were deeply troubled, anxious, afraid, felt scorned, and that I'd been studying the dry kindling. And that at that primary rally when Donald Trump got up there and pumping the sky.Lisa Kiefer: [00:04:07] about making America great again?Arlie Hochschild: [00:04:09] I had met the match, the kindling, kindling.Lisa Kiefer: [00:04:13] That's a great analogy.Arlie Hochschild: [00:04:14] I talked to a Pentecostal gospel singer at lunch one day at the Republican Women of Southwest Louisiana. She said, I love Rush Limbaugh. She saw Rush Limbaugh as defending her against epithets that she felt were coming from the liberal coasts, that she was ill educated, that she was backward, that she was racist, that she was sexist, that she was homophobic and even a little fat and feeling put down. And that was a feeling I heard a lot-- of defensiveness. Oh, you think we're rednecks? You don't think we're as smart as you are? Well, we are. And they are.Lisa Kiefer: [00:04:57] There was a story about the sinkhole. I think his name is Mike Schaff.Arlie Hochschild: [00:05:00] That's right. I met Mike Schaff, at an environmental rally in Baton Rouge. And he got up to speak about what he called the Bayou Corn Sinkhole. He was weeping as he spoke of this. He was holding shoulders of a woman, also a victim of this sinkhole. He said she hasn't been in her house and 364 days. And and he was pointing to her distress. But it was he who was weeping. And I thought I should talk to this man. And I discovered that he was an ardent member of the Louisiana Tea Party. And later, he became an enthusiastic advocate for Donald Trump. And I asked, could I really see where you were born? Can we visit your old school, where are your parents buried. Where did you go to church? Can I get to know your experience and your childhood? And he opened his life to me. My research began in his red truck, going through some sugar cane fields where he's showing me what he called an old shotgun house where he and his six siblings had grown up. The children of a plumber and a homemaker, Cajuns, Catholic, a very rural life. His father had been the plumber for people on the plantation and off. So he was born in the old south. But he grew up working in the new south. The new plantation system. That would be oil.Lisa Kiefer: [00:06:34] The petrochemical plantation.Arlie Hochschild: [00:06:35] That's right. I began to understand why he would look at the world the way he did. I visited him many times. We've gone out fishing and he offered me a window into an answer to the red state paradox. How could it be that it's the poorest states, the states with the worst education, the worst health care, the most pollution and the most disrupted families? And those states which receive more financial help from the federal government than they give it in tax dollars were also those states that were suspicious of or reviled the federal government. I found out that Louisiana was an exaggerated version of that paradox because depending on the year, you can pick out a year in which was THE poorest state. And so 44 percent of the state budget came from the federal government. So it was an exaggerated version. And I found that the issue of the environment kind of exaggerated the exaggeration. And this guy, Mike Schaff seemed like the key to me, if I could really understand him, how he had suffered from an environmental disaster and yet could vote for Donald Trump, who wants to abolish the EPA. He lived on a very beautiful bayou, a modest home that overlooked a canal that led into a beautiful swamp area. He knew all his neighbors. They were his community. And he once told me, well, we need to get government down to size, you know, and have people help their neighbors and friends because the government is doing that for us. It's diminishing community. But actually, I was to discover that what really diminished his community was a terrible drilling accident that could have been prevented with stricter environmental regulation. First there were earthquakes. This was an area that there had never been earthquakes before. And then people began to notice bubbles in the lawn, water. It was raining, looked like Alka Seltzer tablets, and that was methane gas. People were evacuated because it was dangerous. If you lit a match, it could be an explosion. And it turned out to be the fault of a company called Texas Brine that drills down into the floor of the bayou to extract concentrated salt from an under lying salt dome. And that is used in fracking and in other industrial purposes. They knew there was a problem and they drilled anyway. And the state of Louisiana let them do that. So the whole place was evacuated. He wanted to stay on. He got a gas meter, put it in his garage.Lisa Kiefer: [00:09:27] It's a great story. It's unbelievable.Arlie Hochschild: [00:09:31] It is! It could've blown up. He said, well, I'm just looking after my neighbors property. And then he said, actually, I don't want to leave. It was an abandoned community. So he lost his home. He lost his community not to presence of government, but to the absence of government. And he was fully cognizant of this, very intelligent, very mannerly, kind person. I began to wonder and ask him very gently, why wouldn't the government help you? Why wouldn't you want Texas Brine to be more regulated? I think you have to peel away three kinds of answers and one is layered upon another. The first was he saw federal government as an instrument of the north, there's some history to it that the South has felt conquered by the North first and then in reconstruction, carpetbaggers came down and then civil rights workers came down. Then he wondered whether some outsider environmentalists were coming down, wagging their moral fingers. And the second is that Louisiana state government was actually doing the moral dirty work for the oil companies. Louisiana was a petro-state very heavily controlled by oil and petrochemical industry, which subsidizes the election campaigns of politicians. And some of the politicians are themselves oil owners and do the bidding. The Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act are national laws, but they're each implemented by state governments. This state government is in the hands of oil. And so what it presents to citizens like Mike Schaff is a promise to protect. There's a language of protection, but not delivery of that protection. So they're disappointed.Lisa Kiefer: [00:11:22] Disappointed in the state instead of the oil companies.Arlie Hochschild: [00:11:25] That's right. But we're trying to understand the perspective of Mike Schaff and the many others. The government was an instrument of the north, instrument of oil. It wasn't doing its job when people looked at companies and they looked at the government there. They saw the companies were offering jobs. At least that was the rhetoric I was to discover these are highly automated companies.Lisa Kiefer: [00:11:54] And more to come.Arlie Hochschild: [00:11:55] And more to come. They were actually importing Filipino pipefitters. So there were very few permanent jobs, very few. Only 15 percent of the entire Louisiana workforce. And they're also handing out favors. Governor Jindal gave one point six billion dollars to these petrochemical companies as incentive money. They took it from the public coffers to his incentive money. Please come to Louisiana. Don't don't go to Texas or anywhere else. And that incentive money, of course, gave a lot of money to the companies to give out. So there's a donation to the Audubon Society and to a bird sanctuary, football uniforms for the Louisiana State team. So those sort of PR that the company could afford to do. And so people said, oh, well, company kind of generous. And and they looked at the state. I'm paying my taxes for the salary of these officials that are not protecting me. They had allowed this drilling excellent to occur. So the second point was a instrument of oil. And that kind of is the picture of things that goes with that second thing. But I think the biggest of all was that the governments seemed to them an instrument of the line cutters and what I called the deep story. You're standing in line as in a pilgrimage facing the top of the hill where you see the American dream. You've been in that line a long time. Mike Schaff hadn't had a raise in two decades. Your feet are tired. You've worked hard in a tough and dangerous job. Then you see some line cutters, blacks who through affirmative action now have access to jobs that had formerly been reserved for whites. It would be women, who now, through formative action, have access to jobs formerly reserved for men. It would be immigrants, would be refugees. It would even be the endangered brown pelican of Louisiana with its oil soaked wings, because people would say, well, you know, a lot of the liberal environmentalists are putting animals ahead of people. In this deep story, Barack Obama, as they felt it, was waving to the line cutters, supporting them, was sponsoring them, cutting the line waiters out, not representing them. So they felt suddenly strangers in their own land. Wow. I'm here following rules. Worked hard. Can't get there. They didn't look over the brow, the hill of the engine of capitalism at outsourcing, at automation. And so they generalized from that that whatever the government did was now a little suspect. They were white men who were thought of as privileged. And in their heart of hearts, they felt wait a minute, privilege of being white, didn't trickle all the way down. To me, I'm in a tough job. I may not be able to keep it. Families falling apart. And race, the privilege of that also a little questionable. And so for those three reasons, one piled upon another.Lisa Kiefer: [00:15:07] And nobody's representing.Arlie Hochschild: [00:15:08] And nobody was representing.Lisa Kiefer: [00:15:10] And then here comes Trump.Arlie Hochschild: [00:15:11] That's right .Lisa Kiefer: [00:15:11] And then Hillary says Trump followers are deplorable.Arlie Hochschild: [00:15:15] That's right. How could it be that the Democratic Party, the party of the working man and woman, is losing its blue collar, not speaking to it and not making people feel heard or recognized. They have a genuine beef and they didn't see an alternative to Trump.Lisa Kiefer: [00:15:34] It was more of a vote against rather than for. I think I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Trump that they didn't like him. They want to disrupt.Arlie Hochschild: [00:15:44] Exactly.Lisa Kiefer: [00:15:45] You use mourning in the title of your book, and I was curious why you chose that term.Arlie Hochschild: [00:15:51] Yes. I think it's so much easier for us to see the anger often under that anger masked by that anger is a fear and mourning because their way of life honestly is declining, is going away.Lisa Kiefer: [00:16:10] And I think they know it, but they don't want handouts. They know that they're on the verge of being in a place where they're going to need them. That's it's a tricky place.Arlie Hochschild: [00:16:20] It's a very tricky place. In a way, I I want to be their messenger out to say, wait a minute, there are real issues here.Lisa Kiefer: [00:16:28] And it's not just Louisiana. Next year, half of our country. That's right.Arlie Hochschild: [00:16:33] And there has to be an alternative to the bad choices that that we've been faced with and an alternative to the one we are stuck with.Lisa Kiefer: [00:16:41] Now, what are you going to do with the results of this incredible understanding of these people?Arlie Hochschild: [00:16:47] Yes, I've been giving that a lot of thought. It has made me want to join with someone named Joan Blades, who is a co-founder of MoveOn.org and who has instituted something called living room conversations, getting left and right together to find common ground. I think that's a start.Lisa Kiefer: [00:17:09] And you did come across three or four things that you found common ground.Arlie Hochschild: [00:17:13] Yes. Out fishing one day, again with Mike Schaff. He said, you know, we ought to get money out of politics. And I said, you know what? You're Tea Party and you're pro Trump. But you have a lot of friends in Berkeley, California, who agree with you completely about that. Another thing he said was, you know, we ought to reduce prison populations. This is a waste of life and money and we need to get them back to work. You know, give them their dignity. These are nonviolent offense.Lisa Kiefer: [00:17:43] And you visited a prison there? While, during the study...Arlie Hochschild: [00:17:46] The large Angola prison, largest maximum security prison in the U.S. and the U.S. is the prison capital of the world. That was another thing that there was common ground on and even the environment. Here's the thing I'm doing next week. I'm going down to visit Mike Schaff in his new home since old home was ruined and he is again living on a bayou. He loves to fish. I'm taking my son because my son is one of the five energy commissioners for the state of California. He's in charge of renewable energy, which he is a passionate believer in. He likes Mike Schaff and Mike likes David. So my thought was to all three of us, go out in a boat, go out fishing. I'll hold the tape recorder and I'll say, OK, you guys, I would like David from Blue State, California, environmentalist. And Mike, grew up on a plantation. Grew up with oil. Tea Party Trump. I'd like the two of you to discuss how could we make sure that there's never another bayou corn sinkhole, common ground or not? Let's just go see. So that kind of thing that through churches, through schools, through labor unions, I think we ought to try.Lisa Kiefer: [00:19:10] So people to people.Arlie Hochschild: [00:19:11] People to people underneath this escalating harsh, half true, half not rhetoric at the national level. Let's just see if we can't compare views, notions of truth and do it respectfully.Lisa Kiefer: [00:19:27] I wanted to ask, speaking of your son going and talking about what he knows and he might enlighten Mike Schaff about things he may not know about. What is the impact of facts to these people after this five years?Arlie Hochschild: [00:19:41] In a lot of discussions, people said oh a lot of people work for the federal government. It's just bloated. Maybe 30, 40 percent work for the government. I would leave the interview actually not knowing how many people work for the government. So I looked it up. My research assistant and I. And we found that one point nine percent of all workers in the United States work for the federal government, if you add state public employees to that, county employees. If you add the active military a little bit more, but all together, no more than 16 percent of the entire workforce works for the government. So it seemed larger than it was.Lisa Kiefer: [00:20:28] Right.Arlie Hochschild: [00:20:28] Again, with the proportion of people who were on welfare, that didn't work. We know most people on welfare do work, in fact. And if you look at a food stamp recipients, half of them work for fast food places at pretty close to minimum wage. And of course, the new secretary of labor runs Carl's Junior and doesn't believe in the minimum wage, but they're on food stamps because they can't earn enough. This is not a living wage. In a sense, this is corporate welfare, because the federal government is chipping in to keep people out of poverty because wages are too low.Lisa Kiefer: [00:21:06] General Honoré kept talking about the psychology of the jobs that are provided by the oil industry.Arlie Hochschild: [00:21:12] That's right. The talk, the rhetoric was jobs when it came down to it. There were very few permanent jobs. In fact, Sasol, the largest petrochemical company in Lake Charles, Louisiana. It's developing it's, it's adding to itself and in its material it says two thirds of the new workers being added to Sasol are coming from outside Louisiana. And that's because to run these things, you need chemist with a PhD from M.I.T. that's on the one hand. And you have Filipino pipefitters coming in who are cheaper, actually, and you may have more trained pipefitters or workers from Texas. Only a third of the new jobs are going to anybody that's born and living in Louisiana.Lisa Kiefer: [00:22:03] That's significant.Arlie Hochschild: [00:22:04] It's a little bit more like a third world country because there's something also called leakage. If you look at the money that the companies in Louisiana make, the profits aren't going back into Louisiana. One hundred percent of profits would be going back to Louisiana if we're talking about small businesses. They are people who live there. Gas station owner. And it goes back into the state of Louisiana. But these big multinationals, the heads of them, are not living in Louisiana.Lisa Kiefer: [00:22:37] They're sometimes not even in the United States.Arlie Hochschild: [00:22:40] Absolutely. Most of them not in the United States. British Petroleum. OK. That's London. I'm talking Sasol. OK. That's Johannesburg. Magnolia. OK. That's in Australia.Lisa Kiefer: [00:22:53] The reaction when people are faced with the truth of the facts. What has been your experience?Arlie Hochschild: [00:22:59] Well, I'm not sure I can answer that. I have to go gently back to that. When people responded to the book and I sent them all copies and then invited them to a dinner after the book came out. They mainly checked how I talked about them personally.Lisa Kiefer: [00:23:17] And how important you feel that is that they understand the facts behind this.Arlie Hochschild: [00:23:23] Yes. Yes, I know. But I do think that we have to turn the same self inspection on ourselves.Lisa Kiefer: [00:23:29] Why are no conservative academicians coming in and embedding themselves in the Berkeley enclave and trying to figure out who we are and what we think? It's always the liberal progressives who try to understand everyone.Arlie Hochschild: [00:23:42] I don't think we have been trying to understand. You know, I was looking around in sociology. How much how many other studies there were? There were some, a few. Very, very good ones, but not that many and not many the other way, I think, where we're both stuck in our enclaves. I suspect there will be some right wing person. And I think that that would be a very good thing. Actually, next week in February, we're hosting a Tea Party Trump family from Louisiana where the mother, very involved in the Tea Party and she voted for Trump, but her 17 year old son is a Bernie fan. And so I said to her, why don't you come over to Berkeley and stay with us from us and we'll show him around the Berkeley campus.Lisa Kiefer: [00:24:27] You know, it's great with these living room conversations and the people to people kind of thing. But do we really have that kind of time? I worry about the time factor.[00:24:35] You are right. You are completely right. I don't mean the empathic outreach to the people the Democratic Party has lost because of its disregard of the issues. I think it's one part of a larger program that I would like to see in place. We don't have at this moment something like a loyal opposition that's coherent. Where there's a leadership,.Lisa Kiefer: [00:25:05] A respectful opposition.Arlie Hochschild: [00:25:06] A respectful opposition. We're a bunch of very different separate social movements, each with our own cause. We haven't quite cohered I think. We're going to have to learn to do that.Lisa Kiefer: [00:25:19] Do you think there are other people in these, let's call them red states that feel the same way you do about wanting to get to know what we think better? Is it equal?Arlie Hochschild: [00:25:29] No, I don't think so.Lisa Kiefer: [00:25:31] OK.Arlie Hochschild: [00:25:31] I think they they want recognition of them. I'm not sure how curious they are about us, but they have felt put upon by us. The line cutters have turned around and started to insult the people stuck. In this moment, this political moment, it's no time to sit back and just talk to yourself. I think this is the most important election, certainly in my lifetime, maybe in American history. I think the shoe is on our foot to become activists as much as people were in the 1960s. There needs to be a discussion of the fear that is felt by people who feel like they're at the at the tail end of globalization and that that has been covered over and not addressed. There should be three pillars and facing forward. There's defending the values and the institutions that are already there because they're going to soon be under attack and we should prepare for that. And the other thing is to put forward values that actually aren't on the table. What's the agenda? What what are the core beliefs? Let's let's put those forward. So first to defend that's pillar 1. Second, to assert, that's pillar 2. And third, to reach out to Trump's supporters, not to Trump himself, but to his supporters to see if we can't get common ground or I think.Lisa Kiefer: [00:27:00] and that's what you're working on.Arlie Hochschild: [00:27:01] And I think we'll be surprised at how much is possible.Lisa Kiefer: [00:27:04] Did you ever just feel like the elephant in the room was the lack of good education?Arlie Hochschild: [00:27:08] Education in respect and civility, education in respecting the people that make the world turn round?Lisa Kiefer: [00:27:19] True. But I mean, more in terms of critical thinking, like the ability to, you know, enough not to be voting against yourself to understand that the facts like your son going to visit once they understand and someone takes the time to educate, then it's a different story.Arlie Hochschild: [00:27:37] I think if our colleges and universities became supportive places, it might be easier for people to open up their minds to critical thinking.Lisa Kiefer: [00:27:50] What do you mean by that support?Arlie Hochschild: [00:27:52] Well, I think about many of the churches preach that evolution is false doctrine, but those are places that people go to for solace, their community and support. It was the one place they could be dependent and could feel their fear and despair and mourning. And that's the very place where you learned that evolution was not true. And I don't think the solution is simply to get facts out there. I think the solution is to create social support in the projects in universities and colleges where critical thinking goes on. If you understand what I mean, there is an emotional dimension to learning. There is an emotional dimension to politics and everything else. It has to be an atmosphere of respect and support when you are doing this exploration. So that could be a common ground issue. Let's get to know each other, respect each other and do some critical thinking along the way.Lisa Kiefer: [00:28:50] What is the liberal deep story? We are all arranged around a public square inside of which are institutions, a fiercely proud of, a science museum, and there are libraries and fantastic public schools. There is a nature preserve. All of this is public. People who have made it are proud of it, happy to pay taxes for it. It means we're all able to enjoy this together and that that's what the Statue of Liberty stands for. Then, some marauders come in with a steam shovel and they gouge out big chunks of concrete from this. And they take that concrete out of the public realm and they start building a McMansion just for themselves. They're the 1 percent and we're incensed. But wait a minute, you're taking from the public and you're just giving to this selfish 1 percent. There's indignation. There's bafflement and fury at that.Lisa Kiefer: [00:29:59] Arlie Russell Hochschild, sociology professor emerita at UC Berkeley. You've been listening to Method to the Madness. You can find all of our podcast on iTunes University. Tune in again next week at the same time. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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They stomp on our neck, and then they tell us, ‘Just chill, O.K., just relax.’ Well, look, we are mad, and we’ve been had. —Sarah Palin, endorsing Donald Trump for president, January 19, 2016 More than five years ago, renowned sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild embarked on a journey from her liberal hometown of Berkeley, California, deep into Louisiana bayou country—a stronghold of the conservative right. As she got to know people who strongly oppose many of the ideas she champions, Hochschild nevertheless finds common ground with the people she meets—people whose concerns are ones that all Americans share: the desire for community, the embrace of family, and hopes for their children. In a new book, Strangers In Their Own Land, Hochschild explores the right-wing world and discovers powerful forces—fear of cultural eclipse, economic decline, perceived government betrayal—that help explain the emotional appeal of a candidate like Donald Trump. Hochschild draws on her expert knowledge of the sociology of emotion to help us understand what it feels like to live in “red” America. Along the way she finds answers to one of the crucial questions of contemporary American politics: why do the people who would seem to benefit most from “liberal” government intervention abhor the very idea? Join New America NYC for a conversation with Arlie Russell Hochschild on a conversation that plumbs our deep political divide and asks the question: how does the world look from the heart of the right? PARTICIPANTS: Arlie Russell HochschildProfessor Emerita, University of California, Berkeley Author, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right Jamil Smith  @JamilSmithSenior National Correspondent, MTV News Nina Burleigh  @ninaburleigh National Politics Correspondent, Newsweek Copies of Arlie Russell Hochschild's Strangers In Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right will be available for purchase and signed by the author. Join the conversation online using #HeartOfTheRight and by following @NewAmericaNYC.

The very fact that an unqualified, demagogic, racist could be close to the Presidency tells us less about the candidates and more about the shape and mood of America in the 21st Century.   The red/blue divide is after all, not about pure politics. It’s not about classical liberalism vs. Burkean or Randian conservatism.  It’s not Disraeli vs. Gladstone.   What we see in America today is a cultural divide. One in which our own personal experience breaks out and defines itself into a kind of moral and political matrix that both traps and defines us.   These principles are universal and enduring and perhaps if we can better understand them, we can, if not accept, at least have compassion for the better angels of our opponents.   That exactly what noted sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild has tried to do in Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right My Conversation with Arlie Russell Hochschild: