I’m Shawn Fettig. I’m a political scientist and I’m interested in trust – how our governments and politicians can gain our trust – and how they lose it, but also how our personal stories can build trust and bind us together. While I sometimes talk about things that might be making news, there is no punditry here. Instead, this podcast is dedicated to diving deeper into interesting topics with interesting people doing interesting things. You can email me with any questions, comments, and/or thoughts at: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com. Follow me at: Instagram - deepdivewithshawn Twitter - @DeepDiveShawn
Freedom of expression stands as democracy's most essential and most vulnerable foundation. In this conversation, Danish journalist and author Flemming Rose shares profound insights from his experience at the center of the 2005 Muhammad cartoons controversy that sparked global protests and death threats.Rose offers a surprising revelation: free speech is fundamentally unnatural. "Free speech is a consequence not of culture, not of nature," he explains. "The natural inclination among human beings is not to accept free speech." This counterintuitive truth helps explain why even those who claim to champion free expression often only support it for views they find agreeable—a contradiction that becomes increasingly problematic in multicultural societies.We discuss how the publication of twelve cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad wasn't simply an isolated incident but emerged from an ongoing national debate about immigration, integration, and self-censorship. Most alarmingly, Rose identifies a global "freedom recession" affecting even established Western democracies. As societies become more diverse and face increasing instability, governments frequently respond by imposing greater restrictions on expression—a trend accelerated by terrorist threats, wars, and the chaotic information landscape of social media. Despite this bleak assessment, however, Rose maintains some hope, noting that throughout history, free speech has served as the primary tool for marginalized groups fighting for equality.For anyone concerned about the future of democracy, especially under this second Trump presidency, this episode offers essential context for understanding the delicate balance between free expression and social cohesion. As authoritarian impulses gain strength worldwide, including in the United States, Rose reminds us why we must actively cultivate tolerance—that rare capacity to live peacefully alongside ideas we find objectionable without resorting to suppression or violence.Recommended:The Tyranny of Silence - Flemming RoseAfter America Podcast Series-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
American democracy is crumbling. The Republican Party, once defined by traditional conservatism, has transformed into a vehicle for Trumpism, while Democrats struggle to maintain their coalition after unexpected losses. Dr. Hans Noel, Associate Professor of Government at Georgetown University, and co-author of the book Political Parties, joins the pod to explain the complex forces reshaping our political landscape.According to Dr. Noel, while we're not experiencing a complete political realignment, significant shifts are occurring beneath the surface. The Republican Party hasn't abandoned conservative principles but has dramatically changed its emphasis - elevating immigration concerns and national identity while making loyalty to Trump personally a defining characteristic. Meanwhile, Democrats face their own identity crisis as working-class voters, once their reliable base, become increasingly divided.Gender matters here - and is critical dimension in this political transformation. Trump's aggressive masculinity appeals strongly to male voters across demographic groups, while Democrats attempt to counter with an alternative vision centered on care and inclusivity. This represents not merely an electoral calculation but a genuine values difference between the parties.The consequences for democracy are profound. When citizens become so frustrated with politics that they're willing to abandon basic democratic principles, the entire system becomes vulnerable. Dr. Noel maintains cautious optimism about democracy's long-term resilience but acknowledges the medium-term outlook appears concerning: "Long-term, Germany is a thriving democracy that went through a very tough period. In the medium term, including the rest of my lifetime, things could be really ugly."-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
When Canada's snap election was called for April 28th, few could have predicted how dramatically the political landscape would shift. What started as a predictable contest with Conservatives comfortably ahead has transformed into a national referendum on sovereignty and resilience in the face of unprecedented threats from south of the border.Donald Trump's sudden targeting of Canada with punishing tariffs and provocative statements about making Canada "the 51st state" has upended conventional political wisdom. Prime Minister Mark Carney and Conservative challenger Pierre Poilievre now find themselves battling over who can best protect Canadian interests against an increasingly hostile neighbor.In this episode, Dr. André Lecours, professor at the University of Ottawa and expert on Canadian nationalism, joins the pod to discuss how Trump has become "the single most important person" in Canada's election. We delve into the difficult position of Canada's Conservative Party, which historically sympathized with Republicans but now faces a Republican president attacking Canada directly. Can a party that once emulated Trump's style now effectively oppose him?Dr. Lecours offers unique insights into Canada's democratic safeguards – from its parliamentary system to its decentralized federalism – that provide resilience against democratic backsliding. We examine how Canadian provinces are responding to Trump's tariffs, whether Canadians distinguish between the US government and American people, and the long-term implications for North America and the global order.As Canada faces a dramatically changed political landscape, the election outcome will determine whether it pursues greater self-sufficiency, diversifies international partnerships, or finds a new way to manage its vital but volatile relationship with the United States. Whatever Canada decides, the comfortable assumptions that have guided its foreign policy for generations are being fundamentally reassessed.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
America's political divisions seem insurmountable, yet beneath the surface lies a compelling counternarrative: the moderate middle hasn't disappeared—it's just been silenced. In this episode, Dr. Lura Forcum, president of the Independent Center, to discuss the surprising vitality of centrist politics (and centrist voters) in a polarized age.The numbers tell an unexpected story. With 35% of Americans identifying as moderate (compared to 36% conservative and 26% liberal), and nearly half of voters calling themselves independents, the politically homeless constitute a sleeping giant in American politics. Research from the Independent Center reveals these voters often hold nuanced positions that transcend partisan binaries—typically leaning left on social issues while favoring conservative economic approaches.We discuss the psychology driving our political dysfunction and Dr. Forcum explains how we've transformed political parties from governing partners into tribal identities—"in-groups" we cooperate with and "out-groups" we compete against. "Democracy wasn't designed for this kind of outgroup behavior," she says. When we view opposing parties as enemies rather than collaborators, we are attacking democracy's essential foundation.Perhaps most hopeful is Dr. Forcum's observation that local politics still functions because it demands cooperation: "Trash needs collecting, roads need paving—these necessities force us to work together." This pragmatic approach to governance closely resembles what independent voters want nationally. By building a stronger independent identity and embracing political participation beyond partisan warfare, these moderate voters might hold the key to breaking America's political deadlock.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Josh Weil, Democratic candidate for Florida's 6th Congressional District, joins Deep Dive to discuss what could be one of the most consequential special elections in American history. A public school teacher and single father, Weil explains why his April 1st race represents more than just a local contest – it's potentially the first domino in Democrats' path to regaining control of the House.With Republicans currently holding the slimmest House majority in historical memory, the stakes couldn't be higher. Weil articulates how flipping a seat that went Republican by 32 points would send shockwaves through the GOP, demonstrating that there is no job security from Donald Trump's endorsement. This message could fundamentally alter how Republican representatives approach their roles, forcing them to be more responsive to constituents rather than blindly following party leadership.What makes Weil's campaign particularly fascinating is his embrace of progressive policies in a traditionally conservative district. He challenges conventional wisdom about Democratic messaging, arguing that the party has failed in messaging for over a decade while offering concrete examples of missed opportunities to connect with working-class voters. Weil doesn't hold back criticism of his own party, particularly Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's inability to extract concessions during recent negotiations, demonstrating his commitment to honest assessment over partisan loyalty.The conversation weaves between local campaign strategy and national implications, highlighting how special elections occurring outside the typical cycle allow candidates to focus more directly on constituent concerns. As Weil puts it, drawing from his 13 years teaching in Title I schools.Whether you're in Florida's 6th district or simply concerned about the future of American democracy, this episode provides critical context for understanding what's at stake on April 1st.Josh Weil for CongressGay Valimont for CongressVote in Florida-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
In the United States, it's difficult to imagine how civil violence could break out in the United States - how civic and political breakdown could actually manifest in our neighborhoods. The Troubles - the conflict that tore Northern Ireland apart for decades - offer a stark warning for America's increasingly polarized society. In this episode, Oisin Feeney, creator of the acclaimed "The Troubles" podcast, walks us through how a society descended from peaceful civil rights protests into thirty years of paramilitary violence, bombings, and assassinations.This conversation helps explain how ordinary communities became battlegrounds. Feeney explains how Catholic nationalists and Protestant unionists retreated to extremes when moderate voices could no longer be heard, and how paramilitaries filled the vacuum when people lost faith in government institutions.The parallels to America's current situation are impossible to ignore. From the rise of paramilitary-adjacent groups to increasing political violence, from deep economic inequality to the drowning out of moderate voices, the warning signs are flashing. Feeney discusses how violence becomes normalized, how communities cope with prolonged conflict, and what the difficult peace process in Northern Ireland can teach us about both the fragility and resilience of democratic societies.The lesson? Societies can fracture quickly, but rebuilding takes generations. For Americans concerned about our democratic future, this conversation offers critical perspective on what's at stake and what we must protect before it's too late.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Dr. Michael Albertus, professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, and author of the book Land Power: Who Has It, Who Doesn't, and How That Determines the Fate of Societies, as well as the recent Foreign Affairs article The Coming Age of Territorial Expansion, joins the pod to discuss the history of land power, land owernship, territorial ambitions and their larger implications on global politics and socio-economic disparity. As Donald Trump advocates for claims on territories like Greenland, Canada, and parts of Panama, we question the ramifications of such rhetoric on international relations and American democracy.We trace the colonial roots that continue to influence income inequality and social mobility across America, and encourage listeners to ponder the potential crises triggered by climate change-induced migrations that may force us to reconsider land ethics. Furthermore, Dr. Albertus discusses how our current understanding of land ownership and public policy may need re-evaluation to promote equity and shared resources, engaging directly with the delicate balance between private land investment and collective societal benefit. By examining this concept of land power, and these contemporary issues facing America with age-old conflicts over land, power, and resources, Dr. Albertus urges us to think critically about the paths we pursue to safeguard our democracy against the backdrop of shifting global realities. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Have you ever considered leaving the United States - for more affordable healthcare, a lower cost of living, less political chaos? If so, our limited podcast series "Leaving America" will be your guide to answering all of the questions you might have! Coming this summer on the Deep Dive with Shawn podcast feed. Follow us now for updates!----------Song: Happy Whistle by SoundHills Music provided by https://protunes.net Video Link: https://bit.ly/3XPYSlE -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Is Bill Clinton responsible for this Trump Era? In this episode, Dr. Nelson Lichtenstein, professor of History at UC Santa Barbara, and co-author of the book A Fabulous Failure: The Clinton Presidency and the Transformation of American Capitalism joins the pod to examine the complexities of Bill Clinton's presidency and its enduring effects on American democracy today. We discuss how Clinton's embrace of neoliberalism, exemplified through policies like welfare reform and NAFTA, caused rifts within the Democratic Party and set the stage for right-wing populism. As we dig into the consequences of prioritizing political pragmatism and bipartisanship over progressive ideals, we ask: did Clinton's era create an environment ripe for the rise of figures like Donald Trump?Dr. Lichtenstein highlights political dynamics during the 1990s, the importance of maintaining a strong, progressive base, and lessons that contemporary Democrats can apply as they navigate today's political landscape, while encouraging reflection on labor's role, coalition-building among progressives, and strategies for re-engaging disillusioned voters. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
One month into Trump's second term and his actions, thus far, have been described as chaotic, anarchic, cruel, mercurial, authoritarianian, etc. At minimum, it's clear that Trump is single-mindedly focused on systematically dismantling the very institutions designed to uphold democracy. Our guest this week, Dr. Russell Muirhead, professor of Democracy and Politics at Dartmouth, and co-author of "Ungoverning: The Attack on the Administrative State and the Politics of Chaos" has a word for this to help us understand this concept - this experience. We discuss this disruptive strategy, tracing its dangerous evolution and impact on American democracy, especially during the Trump administration. From the philosophical seeds planted by Reagan to today's political climate, we examine how this shift from small government to outright chaos threatens to erode the societal bonds that hold democracy together.We also examine how ungoverning permeates state politics and even the judiciary. Through the volatile role of the Supreme Court and state resistance, we discuss the increasing polarization and fragmentation of political alliances. Considerations on single-party states illustrate how these political strongholds potentially serve as bastions of resistance or exacerbation of national divides. In this context, Dr. Muirhead provides a critical lens on the intricate relationship between political loyalty and governance – a crucial factor in understanding the current state of American politics.Finally, we talk about the human element of this political upheaval, the shifting attitudes of the American electorate, and the crucial role of public engagement in safeguarding democracy. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Can rising insurance premiums finally make climate change a reality for everyone? And, what does it mean for the world that climate change denier Donald Trump has returned to the American presidency? Jonathan Mingle, journalist and author of "Fire and Ice," joins the podcast to explore the tangible impacts of climate change on everyday life. We discuss the disturbing projections of a world three degrees warmer and the looming crisis of insurability in the U.S. We also examine political challenges and the potential impacts of a second Trump presidency on global climate action, highlighting the stark choices and immediate actions needed to address these issues amidst seeming federal inaction.There is an urgent need to break free from our fossil fuel dependency and rethink our energy, agriculture, and land use systems for a climate-stable future. So, we discuss the current impacts of climate change, such as wildfires, hurricanes, and heatwaves, which are not just future threats but present realities. Our discussion spans from the tangible effects on regions like New England and Vermont to the broader socio-political implications, including mass migrations, rising nationalism, and xenophobia, drawing parallels with historical events like the Arab Spring.Messaging plays a critical role in the climate change debate, and we examine the challenges of crafting a universally compelling narrative that transcends political divides. Despite widespread support for climate initiatives, political messaging remains contentious, and Jonathan highlights the importance of building coalitions to advance meaningful action. Finally, we highlight the environmental and health impacts of black carbon, the pressing need to rethink democratic structures for better climate outcomes, and the importance of both individual and corporate responsibility in addressing these urgent environmental challenges.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
What if the United States could peacefully resolve its deep political rifts through secession? Dr. Jason Sorens, a leading expert on secessionism and author of the book Secessionism, joins the pod to discuss the legal, historical, and cultural dimensions of secession in America. The contentious idea has gained renewed interest following Donald Trump's re-election in 2024, and we examine the complexity of secessionist movements from California to Texas to Cascadia and more. Recognizing the confines of the Supreme Court's defining 1869 Texas v. White ruling about the legality of secession, we question whether a breakup might actually bridge the political chasm dividing progressives and conservatives across the nation.We also discuss the dynamics shaping current secession discourse, from the redrawing of state boundaries to the culture clashes within states that complicate these efforts. Drawing comparisons with international movements, such as Greenland's path to greater independence and the peaceful dissolution of Czechoslovakia, Dr. Sorens provides a nuanced perspective on the potential paths states might consider. We examine the challenges of forming new nations and the delicate balance between self-determination and the cohesion required to sustain a united country.Finally, we dig into the relationship between partisanship and polarization in America, contemplating whether secessionist rhetoric is merely a symptom of deeper societal divides. With examples like Vermont's quest for greater policy autonomy, we consider innovative solutions that focus on self-governance as an alternative to outright separation. Ultimately, our conversation seeks to answer this question: can unity be achieved through separation?-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
In this episode, Dr. Sandro Galea - physician, epidemiologist, and author of numerous books including The Turning Point: Reflections on a Pandemic - joins the pod to discuss the hidden physical and mental health costs of political division and harmful policies. We talk about how social polarization affects individual and collective wellbeing, and Dr. Galea shares some strategies for maintaining mental health in an increasingly divided world. This is essential listening for anyone feeling overwhelmed by today's political climate. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Donald Trump's second presidential term is less than a week old and everything already seems to be coming undone. American democracy might be at a breaking point. How did the far-right militia groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers gain influence with the help of government allies, posing a grave threat to national stability? Author and journalist David Neiwert joins the pod, and provides expert insight into the radical right's impact on our democratic experiment. The controversial pardoning of January 6th insurrectionists signals a disturbing breakdown of the rule of law, potentially paving the way for authoritarianism. As we all grapple with widespread radicalization across the nation, we discuss the historical connections between American elements of fascism, focusing on how these ideologies have been fanned into flames by Trump's rise, and how emboldened far-right militia groups might be America's undoing.Recommended:The Age of Insurrection: The Radical Right's Assault on American DemocracyAlt-America: The Rise of the Radical Right in the Age of Trump-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
In this special episode of Deep Dive on this Trump Inauguration Day, we revisit the final episode of our limited series "After America" and ask - how does a nation rebuild itself after falling under authoritarian rule? In the series finale of After America, we take you through the harrowing aftermath of an imagined Trump's second presidential term, where democratic institutions were eroded, civil liberties dismantled, and marginalized communities oppressed. We examine the monumental task of transitioning back to democracy and preventing future authoritarian takeovers. We imagine how this era of expanded executive control would eventually collapse under its own corruption and the public's rising discontent. And, we shed light on how transitional justice mechanisms, such as truth commissions and criminal trials, can pave the way for a reconciled and democratic future.But history has its lessons, and so we remember the failures of post-Civil War America, where the lack of transitional justice led to systemic racism and political polarization we're still grappling with today. So, we discuss the necessity of truth-seeking, reparations, and institutional reforms to transitional justice and the establishment of an enduring and healthy democracy. And, we close by emphasizing the importance of vigilance and proactive efforts to safeguard democracy against erosion, underscoring the need for systemic reforms and citizen engagement to ensure a resilient democratic future.Guests: Dr. David Faris, Dr. Monika Nalepa, Dr. Alastair Smith, and Stephen Marche. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
In this episode of Deep Dive, we examine the growing educational divide driving polarization in American politics and its implications for democracy. Dr. David Hopkins, co-author of the book Polarized by Degrees: How the Diploma Divide and the Culture War Transformed American Politics, joins the pod to explain how college attainment correlates with political alignment and explores cultural factors contributing to this complex landscape. We dig into:• how the diploma divide influences voter behavior and party affiliation;• if/how higher education shapes cultural and political identities; • how populism connects with working-class cultural concerns; • the fact that urban areas lean Democratic; rural areas gravitate towards Republicans;• the perceived liberal bias in academia fuels skepticism among conservatives; and • how/why dialogue and empathy are vital for bridging educational divides.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:BlueskyYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Lainey Newman, co-author of Rust Belt Union Blues, joins the pod to shed light on how deindustrialization and globalization have weakened organized labor, particularly in regions like the Rust Belt. We discuss how these changes have left a void filled by conservative organizations and cultural movements, leading to a significant realignment of working-class voters towards the Republican Party. Lainey traces the peak of union influence in the 1950s to its gradual decline from the 1970s onward. We discuss the evolving relationship between unions and political parties, examining how cultural and identity-based issues have impacted voting behaviors and party alignments. From the friction within the Democratic Party's coalition over cultural issues to the unintended consequences of political strategies - were these dynamics inevitable or could have been foreseen and mitigated?From the fallout of not bailing out the steel industry in the 1970s to the perceived cultural and ideological challenges associated with figures like Kamala Harris, we discuss the long-term implications of these decisions on union and working class voters, and what the Democratic Party needs to do to win these voters back.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
We all, conservatives and progressives, are liberals. And, we are living liberal lives. Dr. Alexandre Lefebvre, a renowned professor of politics and philosophy, and author of the book Liberalism as a Way of Life, joins the pod to explain the complex and often misunderstood concept of liberalism, and how liberalism is more than just a political label—it is a framework built on the values of individual freedom, equality, and fairness that influences our daily interactions and societal norms. We also discuss the ideological rifts that characterize modern political coalitions, and the critical role of internal criticism in achieving a more equitable society and delves into the philosophical challenges that echo Kierkegaard's critique of Christendom, placing a spotlight on contemporary issues of inequality and moral inconsistency.Finally, we examine how liberalism might be under threat in the United States - and globally. We talk about the influence of reality TV and social media on societal empathy and How these elements contribute to a politics of resentment and reduced empathy. We dig into the ways in which liberalism is reflected in cultural shifts and language evolution. And, we consider whether liberalism, with its deeply ingrained nature, could be a subconscious safeguard of our way of life - and where it might be vulnerable. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
It's the end of the year, and that means our annual State of the Union episode is here! In this episode, I'm joined by judicial scholar Dr. Sara Benesh, historian and expert on the fall of Rome, Dr. Edward Watts, and scholar of political violence, Dr. James Hawdon. We draw striking parallels between Rome's transition from a republic to an autocracy and the current state of American politics, and we discuss the erosion of institutional integrity, the rise of political violence, and the unsettling warning sign found in events like the January 6th Capitol attack. We question whether America's democratic foundations might be at risk of crumbling under similar pressures of corruption and strongman politics.As Donald Trump makes his return to the presidency, the dynamics of the U.S. Supreme Court face intense scrutiny. So, we discuss how the current Court might behave under a second Trump presidency, and how the Court's legitimacy may further erode amidst mounting partisan divides. Historical unpredictability among justices is a focal point, as we examine how their decisions could serve as both checks on presidential power and potential avenues for self-aggrandizement. The stakes are raised by provocative statements from Trump's vice president, J.D. Vance, about ignoring Supreme Court decisions, posing a significant challenge to the court's future authority.The path forward for American democracy is fraught with challenges. Our discussion underscores the collective responsibility to defend democratic institutions, emphasizing that this duty extends beyond judges and politicians to each and every citizen. With the world watching, we weigh the potential consequences of ignoring warning signs of political decay, urging listeners to consider their stance in this pivotal moment. How will history judge our actions during this critical time for democracy?Counterpoint Podcast-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
The second annual Few of Our Favorite Things episode has arrived! Friend of the Pod Justin Hentges returns, and we share personal stories and reflections on our cherished books, movies, music, and experiences from the past year. We aren't just highlighting new releases, but the gems that have brought us joy and comfort regardless of their release date. We also bring you a heartwarming Christmas story with Santa and magical snow globes, spreading hope and resilience to those feeling vulnerable in this uncertain times. From Ronan Farrow's gripping "Catch and Kill" to Emmanuel Carrère's poignant "V13: Chronicle of a Trial," we discuss the year's most impactful books that have left us contemplating the dark corners of media and politics. We also explore the intriguing connections between business, government, and personal stories through the insightful narratives in Naomi Oreskes and Eric Conway's "The Big Myth" and Viola Davis's powerful autobiography "Finding Me." And, we curl up with our favorite TV series like Rowan Atkinson's "Maigret" and the heartfelt "Heartstopper." These stories serve as a reminder of the importance of diverse perspectives in enriching our understanding of the world. Our conversation also takes some unexpected turns as we find joy in the children in our lives, and the sense of community that emerges during uncertain times. We reflect on the cultural impact across generations and the significance of empathy and compassion. As the holiday season approaches, we send you a heartfelt Happy Holidays! Related:Counterpoint PodcastCounterpoint Podcast-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Deep Dive is on vacation this week, so we are re-running our most listened to After America episode. We'll be back next week with an all new holiday episode of Deep Dive.----Can Christian nationalism coexist with American democracy, or is it a threat to the very foundation of our nation? This episode kicks off with an in-depth analysis of Mike Johnson's rise to Speaker of the House and how his Christian nationalist views are shaping the legislative landscape. We discuss the erosion of the separation of church and state, exploring how Johnson's leadership might be steering the country towards authoritarianism.We examine the historical intertwining of evangelicalism and conservative politics. From the televangelism boom driven by figures like Pat Robertson and James Dobson to the influential Moral Majority founded by Jerry Falwell, we trace the path that has aligned evangelical Christians with the Republican Party. We delve into the consequences of this alliance, from Reagan's judicial appointments to the overwhelming support for Donald Trump, illustrating how a desire for traditional values has paved the way for more authoritarian leadership.Finally, we discuss the rise of militant Christian nationalism and its alarming impact on American society. We dissect the process of online radicalization, the normalization of extremist rhetoric, and the unsettling intersection of Christianity and right-wing extremism. We also examine the broader implications, including mass deportations and the undermining of democratic institutions. Guests: Dr. Bernard Schlager, Dr. David Gushee, Dr. Tara Grove, Dr. Alice Marwick, Dr. Shalu Nigam Credits:Infados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from PixabayRelated:Counterpoint PodcastCounterpoint Podcast-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Dr. Rachel Blum, an expert on political parties and factions, and author of the book How the Tea Party Captured the GOP: Insurgent Factions in American Politics, joins the pod to explore a bold transformation within the Republican Party. Can the rise of the MAGA movement be understood as a mere political shift, or does it signify a deeper change in American democracy? We discuss the movement's historical lineage, from Barry Goldwater's conservatism to its contemporary manifestations, and consider its profound implications on the GOP's future and the broader democratic landscape.Donald Trump's indelible impact on American politics is undeniable, and we discuss the fascinating trajectory that has seen traditional Republican elites ousted in favor of a new MAGA-aligned core. What are the social and political repercussions of Trump's enduring influence, and how has his rhetoric redefined what is politically acceptable? We examine the psychological loyalty Trump inspires in his base, the dynamics of conservative Christian support, and the Democrats' ongoing struggle to resonate with some Americans amid a fragmented media landscape.Finally, we discuss with threats to democratic norms, including erosion of trust in election integrity and heightened polarization, posed by the MAGA movement. From potential authoritarian tendencies in a second Trump term to the Democrats' strategic response to evolving identity politics, we consider how these factors might reshape America's political future. Related:Counterpoint PodcastCounterpoint Podcast-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
What drives the deepening political divide in rural America? In this episode, Dr. Nicholas Jacobs from Colby College, and co-author of the book The Rural Voter: The Politics of Place and the Disuniting of America discusses the cultural and economic threads that intertwine to bolster Donald Trump's appeal among rural voters. We examine the evolution of historically Democratic regions as they increasingly align with Republican ideologies, challenging the conventional narrative of rural resentment and highlighting the unique stories and perceptions that have taken hold.We look at preliminary data from the 2024 election showing how demographic shifts, including a surge of first-time Latino Trump voters, are shaking up traditional voting patterns in rural areas. We discuss Kamala Harris's struggles to resonate with rural voters in key swing states, analyzing how the Democratic Party's approach may have missed the mark in addressing their core concerns. We also talk about the longstanding trends that have cemented Republican loyalty among non-college-educated and working-class voters.Finally, we unpack why rural voters might support Democratic policies but balk at Democratic candidates. From the effectiveness of federal programs to the disillusionment with long-celebrated reforms like the Affordable Care Act, we explore the disconnect between political accomplishments and voter expectations. We close by discussing the broader implications of this urban-rural divide on the future of American democracy and how both Bernie Sanders and Trump have tapped into the sentiment of a broken system.Related:Counterpoint PodcastCounterpoint Podcast-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
If some of the last 2024 presidential election polls were pointing to a decisive Kamala Harris win, then why did it become clear so early in the evening that Harris would, in fact, lose? Were the polls wrong...again? In this episode, Dr. W. Joseph Campbell discusses how polls work, the history of polling errors, and why it matters. He also takes on Selzer's Iowa poll that showed Kamala Harris's unexpected surge in Iowa days before the election, only for Donald Trump to secure a decisive win, echoing the shockwaves of 2016. We dissect the historical miscalculations that have shaped voter trust and question whether inherent biases, flawed methodologies, or media narratives are distorting the truth.Harry Truman's stunning 1948 victory and the unexpected triumph of Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton in 2016 are some examples of polling error that we discuss. These moments show how fragile the balance is between the pursuit of precision in polling and the pillars of free speech. We talk about how these errors have an impact on voter engagement and democratic processes, and how challenging it is to read and engage with potentially faulty polls in an entrenched electoral culture.Finally, we discuss the reasons why Trump's support has historically been underestimated and the implications for media narratives in shaping electoral momentum. Polling is an art and a science. It's not going away, so we should temper our expectations. Recommended: Lost in a Gallup: Polling Failure in U.S. Presidential ElectionsBetter But Not StellarPolls Were Largely Accurate in Anticipating Trump-Harris RaceRelated:Counterpoint PodcastCounterpoint Podcast-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Could the American system of checks and balances crumble under a second Trump presidency? In this episode Berkeley Law Professor Daniel Farber, co-director of the Edley Center on Law and Democracy, joins the pod to discuss the complexities of executive authority in the U.S. government. From emergency powers initially crafted for crisis management to the potential overreach encouraged by figures such as Mitch McConnell and Mike Johnson, we explore how these dynamics could fundamentally alter the balance of power established by the Constitution. We examine the constitutional framework intended to keep presidential power in check, focusing on the evolving roles of Congress and the judiciary. And, we focus on how party loyalty often clashes with institutional accountability, and how mechanisms like congressional funding and public opinion serve as crucial, yet sometimes faltering, counterbalances to executive overreach. Through critical historical examples and current events, we examine the pressing need for strengthening these checks and balances to prevent authoritarian tendencies.In this episode, we also scrutinize the strategies presidents might employ to extend their influence through appointments and executive orders, challenging the Senate's advisory role. The ease with which democratic norms can be undermined by unchecked presidential actions raises significant concerns about the erosion of civil rights and the potential rise of authoritarianism. And, how the system might respond, and even fail, under the pressures of a President Trump determined to consolidate power. Counterpoint Podcast-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Trump has won. He has plans. Dr. Maria Cristina Garcia joins me for a deep dive into the intricacies of immigration policy and its far-reaching effects on American society. We discuss the disinformation clouding public perception and policy debates. Staring down a second Trump presidency, we reflect on historical mass deportations and the dire economic and social consequences that could follow.We discuss forced migration, driven by authoritarian regimes and climate change, with a focus on regions like Central America and small island states. These global challenges are not just far-off events—they have direct implications for American democracy and the political landscape. And we highlight the urgency for humane, effective immigration reforms, emphasizing the pivotal role of leadership in shaping public perception and policy. The evolving dynamics of Hispanic voter support for Trump is a particular point of interest, offering insights into shifting political alliances.In the broader context of democratic backsliding and the rise of authoritarianism, this episode emphasizes the necessity for international cooperation to tackle pressing global issues like migration and climate change. Wealthier nations need to set a precedent in policy evolution, addressing new challenges such as climate displacement and gender-based violence. Related: After America-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
What if state legislatures could override the popular vote, revolutionizing the American electoral system? What if Donald Trump contests each state election in bad faith? What if Trump demands Congress refuse to certify an election he lost? What if Trump wins and summons mobs into the streets as a show of force? And, how does the American electoral system allow for, even sometimes promote, this type of chaos? In this episode, Dr. Norman Williams, a distinguished law professor at Willamette University and expert on US election law, stops by to discuss the intricacies and vulnerabilities of the Electoral College, as well as other election laws and processes. We examine America's electoral mechanics and uncover why, despite its flaws, this system persists over a straightforward nationwide popular vote. Dr. Williams put the historical "misfires" of the Electoral College into some context, examining past elections where candidates secured the presidency without the popular vote, highlighting the significant political shifts these outcomes create.We also explore the potential for transformative reform, focusing on initiatives like the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which seeks to align the Electoral College with the popular will. And, we consider alternative reforms and the challenges of overcoming entrenched political interests that favor the status quo. With state voting systems and election laws intricately linked to partisanship and race, we discuss how these elements shape electoral dynamics, emphasizing the Supreme Court's complex role in distinguishing between race-based and partisan-based laws.Finally, we talk about the empowering act of voting and civic engagement. Understanding the weight of each vote becomes crucial in the face of restrictive election laws and voter purges. Highlighting the independent state legislature doctrine's potential impact, Dr. Williams and I reflect on its implications for federal elections and the enduring principles of democracy. Vote like democracy depends on it. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Could America's political polarization be paving the way for a return to a multipolar world? Dr. Charles Kupchan, Professor of International Affairs at Georgetown University and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, joins us to explore this provocative question. With the possibility of Trump reelection looming, we discuss the repercussions of an isolationist America retreating from its leadership role on the global stage. Dr. Kupchan explains the historical context of America's foreign policy, drawing fascinating parallels with the early reluctance to form alliances and the modern-day 'America First' stance.As the United States grapples with a diminished ability to single-handedly dictate global outcomes, we consider the necessity of partnering with both democratic and non-democratic nations. How does this shift alter the global balance of power, and can new alliances successfully tackle pressing issues like climate change and nuclear proliferation? Through the lens of Dr. Kupchan's experience, we discuss the complexities of a world where no single nation dominates, and consider whether this transition might not be as destabilizing as it seems.Our converation also tackles the dual threats of political dysfunction and socioeconomic changes reshaping Western democracies. With liberal populism on the rise and traditional influences waning, this episode offers a piercing examination of the precarious international landscape. We reflect on the fate of countries like Ukraine and Israel amidst these shifting dynamics, while contemplating the future of American foreign policy and the potential for a renewed national dialogue. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Dr. Sara Chatfield, a leading voice in gender politics from the University of Denver, and author of the book In Her Own Name: The Politics of Women's Rights Before Suffrage, joins Deep Dive to unpack the persistent gender gap in American politics—a divide that traces its roots back to the 1980s. We explore how shifts in male conservatism and Trumpism's focus on traditional masculinity have potentially steered more women toward the Democratic Party. As we look ahead to the 2024 election, this discussion reveals the intricate weave of political rhetoric, societal change, and how these elements continue to shape voter alignment in a rapidly evolving landscape.In an election where reproductive rights are at the forefront of political discourse, we examine the Dobbs decision's fallout and its ripple effects on public opinion. The debate around abortion and reproductive health transcends identity politics, challenging preconceived notions and highlighting the fundamental nature of these issues. We also discuss JD Vance's stance on gender relations and the historical role of white women in reactionary politics, offering a nuanced perspective on how these dynamics play out in today's political arena.From the resurgence of trans-exclusionary bathroom bills to the strategic maneuvers in Congress and the courts, we consider the effects of backlash and progress. While some areas of social policy are regressing, others are pushing forward, and these shifts have profound implications for the future. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
In this episode, we question the future of American leadership and its crucial role in maintaining the liberal world order. Could a second Donald Trump presidency shift the balance of power, allowing authoritarian regimes like China and Russia to gain prominence? Professor Edward Goldberg - expert on globalization, and author of the book The United States as Global Liberal Hegemon: How the US Came to Lead the World - joins Deep Dive to consider these pressing questions, offering keen insights into the historical and contemporary factors shaping the U.S.'s position as a global leader.Professor Goldberg argues that the United States is the global liberal hegemon, a stabilizing force since the aftermath of the World Wars and, furthermore, that the world needs the United States to remain in that role. We discuss the U.S.'s unique advantages—secure borders, natural resources, and strategic alliances—that have cemented its leadership in fostering global cooperation and democracy. With a thoughtful examination of international institutions like the UN and NATO, we assess the strengths and limitations of these organizations in managing conflicts amidst the rise of power rivalries. As polarization in the United States deepens, Trumpism takes hold, and isolationism becomes a real possibility in a second Trump presidency, the potential repercussions of a significant pivot in U.S. foreign policy are all too real. We explore the possible consequences of a diminished American role, contemplating the risk of increased global instability and authoritarian aggression. Reflecting on past and present geopolitical landscapes, we emphasize the importance of sustained U.S. influence in mediating conflicts and reinforcing democratic norms. With this pivotal election approaching, the stakes for global stability are higher than ever, and Professor Goldberg's insights offer a critical perspective on the future of American global leadership.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
What if the family values we've been taught to cherish are nothing more than myths and, in fact, are dangerous? In this episode, historian and author of the book The Way We Never Were, Stephanie Coontz, helps us to understand the New Testament's radical interpretation of family, offering enlightening insights—and challenges the nostalgic allure of "traditional family values" often exploited in contemporary political discourse. We unmask the nostalgic fantasies fueling certain ideologies and question which eras are truly being glorified, exposing the social injustices that these idealized visions conveniently overlook.We discuss how skewed narratives around gender roles have been manipulated throughout history to justify inequality, examining early societies, where shared responsibilities and egalitarian structures were the norm, contrasting them with the myths used to hinder marginalized communities today. And, we address head-on the danger posed by the MAGA movement, utilizing false nostalgic political rhetoric to lull us into a sense of longing for a bygone era that never existed, and its potential impact on reproductive rights, women's liberty, the trans community, and race policy. There are repercussions to weaponizing "traditional values" in today's debates - and on the future of American democracy.Nostalgia isn't just a longing for the past—it's a tool that can be, is being, wielded by the Republican Party to maintain power and divert attention from current issues. In the episode, we explore the consequences of romanticizing a “simpler time,” particularly for women and the queer community, while highlighting the regressive agendas at play - the societal norms under threat, the democratic backsliding we face, and the paths forward to foster diverse and inclusive family structures. Stephanie's upcoming book, For Better and Worse, aims to further enlighten listeners about these pressing issues.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
What if the very tools meant to inform and unify us are actually tearing our democracy apart? In this episode, I chat with historian Dr. Christopher Elias, author of Gossip Men: J. Edgar Hoover, Joe McCarthy, Roy Cohn, and the Politicss of Insinuation, to unravel the intricate and often nefarious role of gossip, rumor, and misinformation in American politics. Discover how political figures like Donald Trump, J. Edgar Hoover, Joe McCarthy, and Roy Cohn have weaponized these tactics to manipulate public opinion, sidestep substantial policy debates, and undermine trust in our institutions.We discuss the role of bad information in American politics from Alexander Hamilton to the present day, and reveal how advances in media technology have transformed political gossip into a powerful tool for shaping narratives. We consider the ethical implications of these tactics and the enduring impact of figures like Trump, who have brought them to unprecedented levels, reshaping U.S. politics and public discourse. Learn about the nuanced differences between gossip, rumor, and insinuation, and how each serves its purpose in this strategic manipulation.As we explore the broader implications for democracy, underscoring the critical need for truth and communal trust in safeguarding our democratic processes. Finally, we touch on the evolving history of masculinity in American politics, providing insight into how these elements intersect and impact our political landscape. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - Joystock
Deep Dive returns! In this episode we bring back a number of contributors to our recently concluded limited series - After America - and ask if they have hope for American democracy, or if we already past the Rubicon. Can American democracy survive the storm of voter disenfranchisement, misinformation, and rising authoritarianism? This episode promises not just a look at the challenges, but also a glimmer of hope for our democratic future.We explore the perennial struggle to uphold the ideals of equality and the essential role of our political institutions. And, you'll hear insights into how the Republican Party's transformation and Donald Trump's influence pose unique threats to American democracy. Yet, amid these daunting challenges, we find reasons for cautious optimism in the resilience of U.S. institutions and the enduring power of foundational principles like equality and justice.What would another Trump presidency mean for the United States? Through poignant personal stories and global perspectives, we highlight the immediate and structural dangers we face. This episode isn't just a wake-up call; it's a call to arms to protect the future of American democracy.Featuring: Dr. Carol Graham, Dr. Kate Starbird, Dr. Edward Watts, Dr. Alice Marwick, Dr. Tara Grove, Dr. James Robinson, Dr. Sara Benesh, Dr. Benjamin Hett, Dr. Sheri Berman, Dr. Bernard Schlager, Jason van Tatenhove, Dr. Balint Magyar, Stephen Marche-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - JoystockAcoustic Folk Instrumental - Hyde
How does a nation rebuild itself after falling under authoritarian rule? In the series finale of After America, we take you through the harrowing aftermath of an imagined Trump's second presidential term, where democratic institutions were eroded, civil liberties dismantled, and marginalized communities oppressed. We examine the monumental task of transitioning back to democracy and preventing future authoritarian takeovers. We imagine the dramatic events of a potential January 6, 2025—when Trump's return to power is marked by a controversial certification of the electoral vote, igniting widespread protests and unrest. We imagine how this era of expanded executive control would eventually collapse under its own corruption and the public's rising discontent. And, we shed light on how transitional justice mechanisms, such as truth commissions and criminal trials, can pave the way for a reconciled and democratic future.But history has its lessons, and so we remember the failures of post-Civil War America, where the lack of transitional justice led to systemic racism and political polarization we're still grappling with today. So, we discuss the necessity of truth-seeking, reparations, and institutional reforms to transitional justice and the establishment of an enduring and healthy democracy. And, we close by emphasizing the importance of vigilance and proactive efforts to safeguard democracy against erosion, underscoring the need for systemic reforms and citizen engagement to ensure a resilient democratic future.Guests: Dr. David Faris, Dr. Monika Nalepa, Dr. Alastair Smith, and Stephen Marche. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com Music: Majestic Earth - JoystockAcoustic Folk Instrumental - Hyde
Is democracy at risk worldwide? In this penultimate episode of After America, we examine the alarming trend of democratic backsliding, the global rise of authoritarianism, and how it might provide a blueprint for a second Trump presidency. We compare the authoritarian tendencies of leaders in India, Russia, and Hungary, whose tactics in weakening the judiciary, manipulating the media, and undermining fair elections have set a troubling precedent, influencing similar movements across Europe and even some Republican figures in the U.S. This discussion also highlights the broader implications of sacrificing civil liberties for nationalism and security, reflecting on the erosion of democracy in these countries and the potential roadmap it provides for the U.S.Finally, we discuss the intricate relationship between liberalism and democracy, using Hungary as a case study to explore how democracies without full liberalism can falter. The concept of a "post-communist mafia state" provides a lens through which we analyze Hungary's journey from democracy to autocracy. We also tackle the challenges the European Union faces in addressing Hungary's defiance of democratic norms and consider the global threat of authoritarianism, weighing the contrasting approaches of the EU and the U.S. in imposing sanctions. Guests: Flemming Rose, Dr. Sheri Berman, Dr. Shalu Nigam, & Dr. Balint MagyarCredits:Trump on Putin: Courtesy of CSPANTrump on Orban: Courtesty of CSPAN-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
Can American democracy survive the encroachment of authoritarian regimes? This episode of "After America" tackles this critical question by exploring the global impact of authoritarianism and democratic backsliding. We take a close look at the establishment of post-World War II institutions like the United Nations, NATO, and the International Monetary Fund, and analyze how these have contributed to global peace and stability. Using case studies from Hungary, Russia, and China, we examine the erosion of democratic norms and its influence on foreign policies, posing the unsettling question of what might happen to global stability if key democratic nations, particularly the United States, were to falter.We highlight the rise of authoritarianism and its profound impact on global governance, and we dissect how regimes like Russia and China undermine multilateral institutions like the United Nations and the World Trade Organization, opting for unilateral actions and exclusive alliances. Through examples such as the Russia-China partnership and Russia's involvement in Venezuela and Syria, we reveal the mechanisms these regimes use to maintain power and challenge democratic nations. The potential consequences of an authoritarian shift in traditionally democratic countries, such as the United States, are scrutinized, underscoring the risks to global peace and stability.Finally, we ask the questiono - what would the world look like with a second Trump presidency? We discuss how European allies might scramble to forge new security pacts and bolster their defenses, and consider the broader risks of unilateral actions by an increasingly isolated United States. The episode concludes with a sobering look at the future of global stability in a world without American leadership, posing profound questions about the fragile state of democracy and the global order.Guests: Dr. Tom Ginsburg, Dr. Bruce Bueno de Mesquita, Stephen Marche, and Dr. James RobinsonCredits:JFK Speech: Courtesy of the JFK LibraryTrump on NATO: Courtesy of CSPANInfados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
Can democracy deliver the economic stability and growth we need, or do strongman tactics offer a more effective solution? In this episode, we dissect the economic impacts of contrasting political systems, drawing on the U.S. responses to COVID-19 under both Trump and Biden. We discuss the historical economic performances of authoritarian states like the Soviet Union and modern-day China, while also confronting the grim realities of poverty in a democratic America, and its implications for democracy in the United States. By comparing the resilience of minority communities to the disillusionment among low-income whites, we delve into how social structures and economic policies shape societal well-being and commitment to democracy.Lastly, we address the broader implications of wealth inequality and financial instability, drawing troubling parallels with ancient Rome. Highlighting the risks of economic crises fueling authoritarianism, we examine today's U.S. context as a potential breeding ground for similar trends. From the dangers of Project 2025 to the essential role of democracy in securing long-term prosperity, this episode is a must-listen for anyone concerned about the future of the American economy and its global impact.Guests: Drs. James Robinson, Carol Graham, Peter Kramer, Edward Watts, and Monika NalepaCredits:Infados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
What if the very fabric of American democracy is under threat from within? In this episode of After America, we explore the insidious power of othering and its devastating effects on our nation's democratic principles. We start by highlighting the rise of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation following the Supreme Court's 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision, moving through the nativist rhetoric of the Tea Party and Donald Trump. Discover how these harmful narratives have pitted Americans against each other, creating an "us versus them" mentality that marginalizes vulnerable communities and destabilizes democratic values.We then turn to the deep-seated issue of racial othering in the United States, revealing how dog-whistle politics have been employed to perpetuate racism under the guise of patriotism. From the early treatment of Native Americans and the institution of slavery to the strategic use of racial resentment against the New Deal coalition, McCarthyism, and the post-9/11 war on terror, we paint a vivid picture of how fear and suspicion have been weaponized to erode civil liberties and divide society. This historical context sets the stage for understanding the current political landscape, where racial and political divisions are being deepened to dangerous effect.As the 2024 election looms, we delve into the authoritarian undertones of Trump's rhetoric and actions. We scrutinize his desperate attempts to retain power, even as he faces potential legal and financial repercussions. From authoritarian measures to outright declarations of dictatorial ambitions, Trump's alarming statements are a clarion call for anyone concerned about the future of American democracy. Guests: Drs. Ian Haney Lopez, Jennifer Hochschild, Ari Shaw, Carol Graham, Sheri Berman, & Peter FritzscheCredits:Infados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay9/11 Address to the Nation: Courtesy of the George W. Bush LibraryTommy Tuberville Immigration Speech: Courtesy of CSPANBush Speech on Marriage Amendment: Courtesy of CSPAN-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
What happens when a cornerstone of democracy begins to show cracks? On this episode of After America as we scrutinize the U.S. Supreme Court's transformation and its far-reaching impacts on American democracy. We trace key moments from Justice Antonin Scalia's death to the rapid confirmation of conservative justices under President Trump. This episode unpacks the historical roots of the judiciary, its intended role as an independent arbiter of justice, and the seismic shifts that have led to a 6-3 conservative supermajority.We confront the controversies marring the Supreme Court's image, from contentious nomination processes to ethical dilemmas involving Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and Brett Kavanaugh. We also explore how these controversies are eroding public trust and threatening the judiciary's credibility. Landmark cases like Roe v. Wade and Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization underscore the judiciary's evolving influence on societal values and individual liberties, and alert us to the grave consequences of increasing partisan divides in judicial appointments.Is American democracy at risk? We discuss how the judiciary might bolster or dismantle democratic values amid these challenges. From the strategic delays in confirming justices to the potential chaos of a future Trump presidency, this episode offers a sobering look at the judiciary's pivotal role in safeguarding—or undermining—democratic principles. Guests: Dr. Sara Benesh, Dr. Tara Grove, Dr. David Faris, Dr. Tom Ginsburg, and Stephen Marche Credits:Infados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
How does disinformation threaten the very fabric of our democracy? In this episode of After America, we explore this pressing issue. We examine the intentionality behind disinformation campaigns and the alarming findings from the Pew Research Center about the spread of fabricated news during the 2020 election. We highlight the distinctions between misinformation, disinformation, and rumors, highlighting how these falsehoods not only strain interpersonal relationships but also hinder policy agreement. And, we take a close look at the controversial House Committee on the Weaponization of Government, led by Representative Jim Jordan, and its contentious focus on alleged suppression of conservative voices.We uncover the complexities of how disinformation erodes public trust and democratic institutions, and discuss how social media amplifies conflicting realities through echo chambers and algorithms. From the emotional triggers of false content to the radicalization of vulnerable individuals, this episode leaves no stone unturned.The threats to American democracy are more significant than ever, and misinformation plays a crucial role. We'll explore how certain political actions, despite claims of protecting free speech, actually stifle it, further eroding public trust. And, we discuss the long-term democratic implications, including increased polarization and the potential rise of authoritarianism. Guests: Dr. Kate Starbird, Dr. Alice Marwick, and Dr. Tom Ginsburg Credits:Infados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
Can Christian nationalism coexist with American democracy, or is it a threat to the very foundation of our nation? Join us for a compelling discussion on "After America" as we tackle these urgent questions. This episode kicks off with an in-depth analysis of Mike Johnson's rise to Speaker of the House and how his Christian nationalist views are shaping the legislative landscape. We discuss the erosion of the separation of church and state, exploring how Johnson's leadership might be steering the country towards authoritarianism.We unravel the historical intertwining of evangelicalism and conservative politics. From the televangelism boom driven by figures like Pat Robertson and James Dobson to the influential Moral Majority founded by Jerry Falwell, we trace the path that has aligned evangelical Christians with the Republican Party. We delve into the consequences of this alliance, from Reagan's judicial appointments to the overwhelming support for Donald Trump, illustrating how a desire for traditional values has paved the way for more authoritarian leadership.Finally, we discuss the rise of militant Christian nationalism and its alarming impact on American society. We dissect the process of online radicalization, the normalization of extremist rhetoric, and the unsettling intersection of Christianity and right-wing extremism. We also examine the broader implications, including mass deportations and the undermining of democratic institutions. Don't miss this episode as we contemplate whether contemporary evangelicals can find harmony with their secular neighbors amidst a politically charged landscape. Guests: Dr. Bernard Schlager, Dr. David Gushee, Dr. Tara Grove, Dr. Alice Marwick, Dr. Shalu Nigam Credits:Infados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
White supremacist and right-wing militia groups are threatening American democracy. Join us as we unveil the alarming rise and evolution of these extremist ideologies, tracing their roots from historical moments like Ruby Ridge and Waco to modern-day influences bolstered by political figures such as Donald Trump. In this episode, we uncover how political rhetoric has emboldened these groups, posing significant risks leading up to the 2024 election. Discover how the internet has become a breeding ground for radicalization, connecting extremists and mainstreaming their dangerous ideologies, shedding light on the role of media bubbles and algorithms in empowering these extremists. The discussion highlights how fringe theories like the Great Replacement have gained traction and now influence public policy and political rhetoric within the Republican Party.Finally, we delve into the disturbing convergence of white supremacist, militia, and Christian nationalist ideologies, emphasizing their preference for authoritarianism and theocracy. This episode underscores the urgent need for action to safeguard American democracy against these growing threats.Guests: Dr. Ian Haney Lopez, Dr. Kathleen Blee, Dr. James Hawdon, and Jason van TatenhoveAfter America Statement on Political Violence in AmericaCredits:LBJ Clip on Civil Rights Act - Courtesy of the LBJ LibraryInfados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
A statement on the current state of political violence in the United States from the After America team.Music:Infados - Kevin MacLeod -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
If American democracy were to collapse, what historical parallels could help us understand what we might be in for? Nazi Germany? Learn how the Nazis swiftly exploited the Reichstag Fire in 1933 to enact the Reichstag Fire Decree, leading to a brutal suppression of political opponents and securing their dominance in the March 5th elections. We explore economic and social turmoil in Weimar Germany that laid the groundwork for Hitler's ascent, drawing poignant comparisons to the fragility of today's democratic system in the United States, and reveal the strategic maneuvers the Nazis employed to position themselves as the true representatives of Germany, transcending traditional political labels and focusing on national unity and modernization. We discuss the cultural anxieties exacerbated by rapid modernization and urbanization, and how Hitler's propaganda machine capitalized on these fears to foster a return to traditional values, further deepening societal and political divides. And, we explore the unique political skills and empathetic understanding Hitler used to galvanize support, setting a dangerous precedent for charismatic leadership in times of crisis.But, when we consider the similarities between conditions in Weimar Germany immediately prior to the collapse of democracy to the conditions in the United States, does past mean prelude? Maybe the gradual democratic collapse of the Roman Republic is a better corollary. So, we look into how systems designed to prevent tyranny can inadvertently lead to gridlock and public disenchantment. By examining historical events like Augustus' rise to power and modern phenomena such as gerrymandering and judicial appointments, we emphasize the subtle dangers of gradual democratic backsliding. This episode helps us understand what might lie ahead for American democracy and underscores the urgent need to recognize and address threats to democratic institutions today to prevent repeating the errors of history.Guests: Dr. Benjamin Hett, Dr. Peter Fritzsche, and Dr. Edward WattsMusic:Infados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
What if the very institutions designed to protect American democracy are now its greatest threat? In this episode, we scrutinize why Donald Trump remains a formidable candidate nearly four years later, and how key democratic norms and institutions like the rule of law, free and fair elections, and a free press are being systematically eroded. This sets the stage for the 2024 election, framing it as a critical battle between authoritarianism and democracy.We also unpack the structural weaknesses that plague American democracy today, focusing on the Senate, the Electoral College, and the House of Representatives. These institutions, originally designed to balance power, now disproportionately benefit Republicans, leading to governance and policy outcomes that undermine public trust. Partisan gerrymandering and the Senate's counter-majoritarian design are scrutinized for perpetuating poor governance and eroding faith in our democratic systems. We also discuss the role of bureaucracy, technocracy, and neutral institutions in safeguarding democracy.Finally, we delve into the fragility of American democratic norms and the judiciary. Discussing the politicization of judicial appointments and challenges to electoral legitimacy, we explore the consequences for democratic stability. The rise of Christian nationalism, deregulation, and threats to climate initiatives signal troubling trends, especially with the prospect of Donald Trump's return to the presidency. Guests: Dr. Sara Benesh, Stephen Marche, Dr. David Faris, & Dr. Tom GinsburgSources:Bush v. Gore Clip - Courtesy of the United States Supreme CourtMcConnell Senate Speech on Garland Confirmation - Courtesy of C-SPANInfados - Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
What happens when the very fabric of American democracy is put to the test? Join us as we confront the alarming state of our nation in the lead-up to the 2024 presidential election, featuring a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. We begin by dissecting the chaos of January 6th, 2021, when a Trump-incited mob stormed the Capitol, marking a pivotal moment in our history—a moment that saw many Republican members of Congress attempt to overturn the election results, forever altering the party's trajectory toward authoritarianism.Our journey takes us back to the 1960s, exploring the origins of racially charged rhetoric and the pivotal shifts of the Republican Party. From Barry Goldwater's extremism to Nixon's Southern strategy and Reagan's unifying conservative factions, we unravel how coded language and strategic political moves laid the groundwork for today's divisive landscape. The rise of figures like Newt Gingrich and the influence of Fox News further transformed Republican politics, setting the stage for the Tea Party and the ideological battles that followed Obama's election. And, then Trump.As we examine the aftermath of the 2020 election and the January 6th attack, we spotlight Trump's baseless voter fraud claims and the disturbing rise of far-right militia groups. With the 2024 election on the horizon, we discuss the precarious state of American democracy and the erosion of democratic norms. Guests: Dr. Ian Haney Lopez, Dr. David Faris, Dr. David Gushee, & Dr. Edward Watts Sources:January 6th Audio Footage – Courtesy of the January 6th House CommitteeNixon/Reagan Call – Courtesy of the Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum: Tape 013-008Ronald Reagan 1980 Campaign Ad – Courtesy of the Reagan FoundationRonald Reagan Campaign Remarks 1976 – Courtesy of the Reagan LibraryRonald Reagan Remarks at Liberty Park – Courtesy of the Reagan LibraryRonald Reagan Inaugural Address – Courtesy of the Reagan LibraryObama Inaugural Address – Courtesy of President Barack Obama White House ArchiveTrump Sworn In – Courtesy of President Donald Trump White House ArchiveKevin McCarthy Statement on Trump – Courtesy of C-SpanMitch McConnell Statement on Trump – Courtesy of C-SpanLiz Cheney Statement on House Floor – Courtesy of C-SpanConfessions of a Republican – Courtesy of the Lyndon Baines Johnson LibraryInfados - Kevin MacLeodNews Theme · Kevin MacLeodDark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com
As we count down to the release of the limited series After America, we are revisiting some past episodes of Deep Dive to help lay the groundwork for this important project that will attempt to answer the question - What would it actually look like if American democracy were to fail?Dark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay---------How does economic hardship and cultural marginalization fuel the rise of authoritarianism in America? In this conversation with Dr. Arlie Hochschild, the acclaimed author of "Strangers in Their Own Land," we explore the white working-class community's sense of hopelessness and how it makes them susceptible to figures like Donald Trump, who promise radical solutions. Together, we unravel the emotional and political dynamics driving these communities towards authoritarianism, scrutinizing the threat it poses to our democratic norms and institutions.From the petrochemical plants of Louisiana to the halls of power, we venture into the lives of white, blue-collar workers to understand their growing alignment with right-wing movements. By diving into their "deep story," we shed light on feelings of being left behind and the resentment that fuels their political choices. This episode uncovers the stark disconnect between urban elites and rural populations, examining how federal policies and evolving sentiments have led to moments of intense political upheaval, such as the January 6th insurrection.We also dissect the complex relationship between voter behavior and democratic stability. Are moderate voters swaying their officials towards moderation, or is it the other way around? Tune in to explore how we can bridge the American political divide, address economic concerns, and find innovative solutions to rejuvenate neglected areas, fostering moderation and tolerance in an increasingly polarized nation.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramPost.newsYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork: Dovi Design **Deep Dive Music: Joystock
As we count down to the release of the limited series After America, we are revisiting some past episodes of Deep Dive to help lay the groundwork for this important project that will attempt to answer the question - What would it actually look like if American democracy were to fail?Dark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay------------- Can America's democracy survive the rising tide of extremism, judicial assertiveness, and political violence? Dr. David Faris kicks off the conversation by dissecting the radical shifts within the Republican Party and their profound implications for political polarization and legislative deadlock. His analysis raises urgent questions about the future of bipartisan cooperation and the erosion of democratic norms in the United States.Next, Dr. Sarah Benesh delves into the Supreme Court's increasingly influential role in shaping policy on contentious issues from voting rights to reproductive health. Through detailed exploration of landmark cases, she reveals how the court's originalist philosophy exacerbates ideological divides and impacts public perception, offering a crucial perspective on the judiciary's evolving power. Dr. Benesh's examination provides essential context for understanding the court's decisions and their far-reaching consequences.Lastly, Dr. James Hawdon brings to light the unsettling rise of political violence and its destabilizing effects on democracy. By drawing connections between misinformation, incendiary rhetoric, and events like the January 6th Capitol attack, he underscores the urgent need to counteract these threats. As we head towards the 2024 election, Dr. Hawdon's insights stress the importance of proactive strategies to protect democratic institutions. Tune in for a compelling discussion that offers a sobering yet hopeful look at the forces shaping America's future.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramPost.newsYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork: Dovi Design **Deep Dive Music: Joystock
As we count down to the release of the limited series After America, we are revisiting some past episodes of Deep Dive to help lay the groundwork for this important project that will attempt to answer the question - What would it actually look like if American democracy were to fail?Dark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay------------- Can Christian nationalism reshape America? In this episode, I revisit a chat with Dr. David Gushee, a leading authority in Christian ethics, to tackle this pressing question and more. We navigate the intertwining paths of faith and politics, examining the alarming rise of authoritarianism within certain factions of American Christianity. We discuss how political figures have amplified the dangerous merging of religious fervor with political power, posing a significant threat to democratic values and equality. Our conversation delves into the historical and cultural dynamics fueling this phenomenon, exploring whether this radical shift represents a natural evolution or a distortion of Christian teachings. As an ordained minister, Dr. Gushee reflects on how the perceived loss of influence in traditionally dominant Christian cultures has led to a surge in hysteria and demagoguery, both threatening democracy and the essence of Christianity itself. We unpack the ways non-democratic ideologies are being nurtured within homeschool and Christian school settings, raising concerns about the future leaders who may undermine our democratic foundations.Finally, we explore the intricate relationship between authoritarianism and religion, looking at the historical evolution of Christianity and its struggles with adapting to democratic principles. Our discussion culminates in a call to action, emphasizing the urgent need for a recommitment to the values of kindness, empathy, and inclusivity rooted in Christian ideals. Join us as we lay the groundwork for our new series, "After America," and strive to build compassionate communities that honor both our democratic heritage and faith traditions.-------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramPost.newsYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork: Dovi Design **Deep Dive Music: Joystock
As we count down to the release of the limited series After America, we are revisiting some past episodes of Deep Dive to help lay the groundwork for this important project that will attempt to answer the question - What would it actually look like if American democracy were to fail?Dark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay------------- Is America on the brink of democratic backsliding? As the 2024 election draws near, we explore alarming parallels between the authoritarian tactics of Vladimir Putin in Russia and those emerging in the U.S. This episode features the profound insights of Dr. Alexander Motyl, an expert on Russian affairs. We revisit our discussion about the ongoing war in Ukraine and critically analyze Putin's historical justifications for Russia's actions. Highlighting the unexpected resilience of Ukraine, we reflect on the broader global implications of the conflict.Vladimir Putin's logic and rhetoric serve as the focus of our next segment, where we scrutinize the extreme consequences of his historical narratives. Dr. Motyl helps us question Putin's rationality and understand the potential for regions within Russia, like Buryatia and Tatarstan, to assert their historical claims for independence. Our conversation also delves into how Putin's grand historical narrative, despite its flaws, aims to legitimize his rule and maintain his grip on power. We consider the future shape of Russia if it faces defeat in Ukraine and the broader repercussions of such a scenario.The possibility of Russia becoming a failed state is not far-fetched, as we discuss in our final segment. We consider potential outcomes for Russia, including internal power struggles and civil conflict reminiscent of its past. The conversation stresses the importance of preparedness and understanding the regions within the Russian Federation to mitigate instability. Finally, we contemplate scenarios of peaceful dissolution versus chaotic fragmentation, emphasizing the crucial need for ongoing support to neighboring states to contain any potential spillover effects. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramPost.newsYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork: Dovi Design **Deep Dive Music: Joystock
As we count down to the release of the limited series After America, we are revisiting some past episodes of Deep Dive to help lay the groundwork for this important project that will attempt to answer the question - What would it actually look like if American democracy were to fail?Dark Tales: Music by Rahul Bhardwaj from Pixabay-------------As the gears of our democracy grind toward the 2024 election, the shadow of authoritarianism looms ever larger. Dr. Sara Benesh discusses the Supreme Court's seismic shift to the right and its implications for our nation, and the need for transparency in our judiciary. Together, we peel back the layers of crucial decisions that are reshaping our society and spotlight the ethical conundrums that question the very underpinnings of our democracy.Dare to question the substance behind the Supreme Court's adherence to originalism. Through the lens of the Dobbs decision, we scrutinize whether this philosophy serves justice or justifies preconceived ideologies. Justice Alito's comments on legitimacy and the contentious association of Justice Thomas's wife with the January 6th events are put under the microscope. The episode probes the court's treatment of established norms, voting rights through an originalist view, and parallels with past presidential behaviors that flout institutional norms, painting a picture of a judiciary at a pivotal crossroads.Lastly, we dissect the Supreme Court's latest cases, from Moore v. Harper's potential to redefine election integrity, to the clash of free speech and anti-discrimination in 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis. Unpacking the shadow docket's influence on voting rights and redistricting, we confront California's Proposition 12 and its nationwide ripple effects. Ending on a note of apprehension, I share my fears for precedents that safeguard students of color and the sanctity of future elections. -------------------------Follow Deep Dive:InstagramPost.newsYouTube Email: deepdivewithshawn@gmail.com **Artwork: Dovi Design **Deep Dive Music: Joystock