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What's the best leadership advice you've ever received or given? For her 200th episode of Doing CX Right, host Stacy Sherman shares a curated collection of the most memorable and actionable leadership wisdom from the show's renowned guests. Consider this a masterclass in leading with influence, featuring insight you can apply immediately to boost both your business growth and your personal development. You'll hear powerful lessons from leaders like Seth Godin, Daniel Pink, Jeanne Bliss, Fred Reichheld, Shep Hyken, Daniel Goleman, Mark Schaefer, and many others. Their brief insights here reveal the advice that shaped their success and their approach to supporting every person on their team. Inside this special episode, you'll gain The crucial mindset shift that catalyzed their biggest career growth. The essential principles they pass on to rising talent. The game-changing perspective they wish they had adopted sooner. The practical steps they use daily to create a supportive team environment. There are countless more actionable strategies shared beyond this show! While this episode is packed with wisdom, the full stories and in-depth advice are in the past 199 shows. Listen and take notes, as you'll find incredible wisdom you can apply today. Also, subscribe on your favorite channel to get notified of NEW episodes that will give you even MORE strategies to elevate your business and personal career too! This episode is also available to watch on YouTube Featured guests in this episode: Listed in the order they appear so you can follow the voices as you listen. Seth Godin • Shep Hyken • Daniel Pink • Wally Feresten • Jay Baer • Fred Reichheld • Rob Markey • Bob Burg • Greg McKeown • Eileen Brenner • Sam Brenner • David Arvin • Mark Sanborn • Brittany Hodak • Joe Calloway • David Singer • Jeannie Walters • Colin Shaw • Kerry Bodine • Jeanne Bliss • Lisa Ford • Mark Schaefer • Joe Pine • Bill Price • Katie Webb • Brian Elliott • Scott McKain • Jackie Yeaney • Josh Bersin • Tiffani Bova • Wendy Smith • Stephen Shedletzky • Sylvie di Giusto • Bill Staikos • Neal Schaffer • Daniel Goleman • Patrick McCullough • Dennis Snow • Neil Hoyne • Simon T. Bailey • Mauro Porcini • Laurie Guest • Cindy Gallop • Zach Picon • Nir Eyal • Sean Albertson • Neal Topf • David Allen • Blake Morgan • Marcey Rader • Michael B. White • Max Ball • David Wachs • Sean Hawkins • Jacqui Brassey • Michael Brenner • Sharon Weinstein • Miya Gray • Joel Block • Mark Stern • Catherine Sugarbroad • Dave Seaton • Jon Picoult • Greg Kihlström • Eric Skeens • Ryan Estis • Ian Golding • Jeff Toister • Matt Dixon • Annette Franz • Stan Phelps • Tim Tincher • Joey Coleman • Dan Gingiss • Miika Mäkitalo • Greg Melia Resources & Next Steps Get Insider Strategies: Subscribe to Doing CX Right newsletter for proven, actionable insights you can't get anywhere else. Book a Call: Schedule personalized time with Stacy Sherman.

Jay Acunzo and Mark Schaefer discuss their success in sustaining their personal content production for years, even decades. They discuss their mindset and strategies of incorporating a content lifestyle and beating the odds.   Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," "Belonging to the Brand," and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subcribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.     Jay Acunzo consults experts and entrepreneurs to differentiate their messages and content. He hosts the podcast How Stories Happen, where guests dissect signature stories piece by piece. Learn more at jayacunzo.com

Mark Schaefer returns to our show, bringing with him a wealth of insights from his latest book about the sweeping changes AI is bringing to sales and marketing. As part of a global research initiative with 300 futurists, Mark shares his predictions for AI's impact by 2035, highlighting both the opportunities and challenges businesses face, especially those small to medium-sized. We explore how tech giants are seamlessly weaving AI into their strategies and why it's crucial for smaller enterprises to comprehend and act on AI's transformative power to stay relevant and competitive.  Our conversation takes a closer look at AI's role in reshaping marketing strategies and customer engagement. Traditional metrics are giving way to data-driven insights, marking a shift in how businesses connect with consumers. While AI-generated content is becoming more prevalent, we emphasize the irreplaceable value of authentic, human-centric content. The discussion touches on the enduring importance of human creativity and expression, even as AI attempts to replicate empathy and innovation. Personal preferences, it seems, still hold weight against AI's recommendations, underscoring a unique space for human intuition and creativity.  We also investigate the profound implications AI bears on human relationships and business operations. As AI continues to streamline processes, the human element remains vital in building meaningful connections and trust. Through exploring personal branding, community building, and the essence of vulnerability, we highlight the irreplaceable human touch in a world increasingly intertwined with AI technologies. Mark's insights serve as a reminder that while AI may reshape certain aspects of our interactions, the authentic essence of human experience and empathy remains at the core of genuine relationships and successful business endeavors.  Mark W. Schaefer is a globally recognized author, keynote speaker, futurist, and business consultant who blogs at {grow} — one of the top five marketing blogs in the world. He teaches graduate marketing classes at Rutgers University and has written 12 best-selling books. Mark's new book Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World describes an essential framework for businesses to stand out and be seen in a noisy world. His many global clients include Pfizer, Cisco, P&G, Dell, Adidas, and the US Air Force. He has been a keynote speaker at prestigious events worldwide, including South by Southwest, Marketing Summit Tokyo, and the Institute for International and European Affairs. Mark has appeared as a guest on various media channels, including CNN, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and CBS News.   Quotes:  "AI is not just about technological advancements; it's about how it rewires our brains and influences consumer behavior."   "In a world dominated by AI-generated content, the irreplaceable value of authentic, human-centric content remains."   "The human element is vital in building meaningful connections and trust, even as AI continues to streamline processes."  "While AI can mimic empathy and creativity, genuine human expression holds enduring value."    Links:  Mark's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwschaefer/ How AI Changes Your Customers - https://businessesgrow.com/how-ai-changes-your-customers/ Find this episode and all other Sales Lead Dog episodes at https://empellorcrm.com/salesleaddog/ 

Mark Schaefer begins the show with a significant announcement about the future of The Marketing Companion. Co-host Sandy Carter kicks off a discussion about how Deep Fakes are overwhelming even the most famous brands and company leaders. Mark and Sandy also cover the impact of AI speed on marketing, the rise of the humanoids and more.   Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," "Belonging to the Brand," and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising. For more of Mark's insights every week, subscribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.     Sandy Carter is COO of Unstoppable Domains and has held marketing leadership positions at IBM and AWS. She is the author of AI First, Human Always.

That Solo Life, Ep. 322: The Rise of Rage Farms and Coordinated Disinformation Episode Summary In this eye-opening episode, hosts Karen Swim, APR and Michelle Kane tackle the disturbing trend of "rage farms" and the growing industry of disinformation-as-a-service. Stemming from a recent article by Mark Schaefer, they explore how coordinated, anonymous online attacks are manufactured to create controversy, manipulate public opinion, and inflict real-world financial and reputational damage on brands. Karen and Michelle discuss the infamous Cracker Barrel rebrand incident as a prime example of how a small number of fake accounts can ignite a firestorm that appears to be a massive public outcry. They delve into the sinister motivations behind these campaigns, from profiting off stock market dips to sowing general discord. As PR professionals, it's crucial to understand that these are not random bots but calculated attacks. The hosts emphasize the responsibility of PR pros to prepare for these threats, the need for brands to pause before reacting to online outrage, and the importance of verifying information sources. This episode is a critical listen for any communicator navigating the modern digital landscape. Episode Highlights [01:42] Introducing the concept of "rage farms," as detailed by Mark Schaefer. [03:39] The emergence of "disinformation-as-a-service" and coordinated, anonymous attacks. [04:14] Case Study: How the Cracker Barrel rebrand controversy was manufactured by a small number of accounts. [05:15] The financial motivations behind rage farms, including short-selling stocks. [06:36] Why brands should "take a beat" to investigate the source of online outrage before reacting. [07:55] The role social media platforms play and their lack of incentive to stop the spread of disinformation. [09:17] The importance of individual responsibility in not spreading unverified information. [12:51] A proactive strategy for PR pros: using AI to run crisis simulations and test messaging against disinformation campaigns. Related Episodes & Additional Information Article by Mark Schaefer (As mentioned in the episode) - Rage Farms: The Hidden Industry Weaponizing Outrage Against Brands Host & Show Info That Solo Life is a podcast created for public relations, communication, and marketing professionals who work as independent and small practitioners. Hosted by Karen Swim, APR, founder of Words For Hire and President of Solo PR, and Michelle Kane, Principal of Voice Matters, the show delivers expert insights, encouragement, and advice for solo PR pros navigating today's dynamic professional landscape.   Did this episode resonate with you? Share it with a fellow PR pro who needs to hear it! Don't forget to subscribe to That Solo Life on your favorite podcast platform and leave us a review. Your support helps us continue to create valuable content for the solo community. Visit soloprpro.com to let us know what topics you want us to cover next.

That Solo Life Episode 321: What We're Reading for Focus, Laughs and Professional Development  Episode Summary For busy PR and marketing professionals, finding time to read—whether for professional development or pleasure—can be a challenge. In this episode, hosts Karen Swim and Michelle Kane open up their own "to-be-read" piles to share the books currently on their stacks. They discuss a fascinating mix of titles covering everything from the impact of AI on customer behavior and social media's effect on our minds to the art of writing a funny speech and the power of mindset. This episode is packed with recommendations that will inspire you to think more deeply, understand your audience better, and even find humor in the everyday. If you're a book lover looking for your next great read or need some motivation to start that book you bought months ago, this conversation is for you. Episode Highlights (01:05) - Why PR pros often have a stack of books they intend to read but struggle to find the time. (02:26) - Michelle's first pick: Belonging: The Key to Transforming and Maintaining Your Success by Mark Schaefer, which explores how AI is changing customer behavior. (03:52) - Karen shares her first book, Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention—and How to Think Deeply Again by Johann Hari, and discusses the importance of deep work. (06:47) - For a dose of humor, Michelle recommends How to Write a Funny Speech by Carol Leifer and Rick Mitchell, highlighting the intelligence behind good comedy writing. (08:27) - Karen's second recommendation, The Chaos Machine: The Inside Story of How Social Media Rewired Our Minds and Our World by Max Fisher, and its relevance for communicators. (10:27) - Michelle discusses Inner Excellence: The Proven System for Empowering Your Habits, Overcoming Your Mental Blocks, and Raising Your Lasting Level of Performance by Jim Murphy, a book made famous by Philadelphia Eagles player AJ Brown. (12:22) - Karen's final book is Do the New You: 6 Mindsets to Become Who You Were Created to Be by Steven Furtick, a faith-based guide to personal transformation. (14:00) - The hosts reflect on the common theme of mindset in their book choices and its importance for solo professionals. Resources & Additional Information Books Mentioned in This Episode: How AI Changes Your Customers - Mark W. Schaefer Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention—and How to Think Deeply Again - Johann Hari How to Write a Funny Speech... - Carol Leifer and Rick Mitchell The Chaos Machine - Max Fisher Do the New You: 6 Mindsets to Become Who You Were Created to Be - Steven Furtick Inner Excellence - Jim Murphy Kami Huyse - Follow Kami Huyse on LinkedIn for more great insights and recommendations. Host & Show Info That Solo Life is a podcast created for public relations, communication, and marketing professionals who work as independent and small practitioners. Hosted by Karen Swim, APR, founder of Words For Hire and President of Solo PR Pro, and Michelle Kane, Principal of Voice Matters, the show delivers expert insights, encouragement, and advice for solo PR pros navigating today's dynamic professional landscape.   What book are you currently reading or what's at the top of your stack? We want to hear from you! Visit SoloPRPro.com to share your recommendations. And if you found value in this episode, please share it with a fellow PR pro and leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners just like you

Let's put AI on the corner of a moment and remind ourselves of the OG marketing ideas that still make sense. In this episode, Mark Schaefer and Andy Crestodina talk about the enduring need for strong branding, live events, and sex (you'll just have to hear the whole story!).    Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," "Belonging to the Brand," and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subcribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.   Andy Crestodina is CMO and Co-Founder of Orbit Media, an award-winning 55-person digital agency. He has 23_ years of experience in analytics, SEO, content strategy and visitor psychology ...and months of experience in AI.   Andy has applied his expertise in SEO and conversions to drive both visibility and lead generation for 1000+ businesses since 2001.

Your customers are changing because of AI. But so are you—whether you realize it or not. Host Dan Nestle welcomes back Mark Schaefer, whose new book How AI Changes Your Customers reveals a transformation most people aren't prepared for. As one of 300 futurists who contributed to Elon University's Being Human in 2035 study, Mark brings insights beyond the usual AI hype. Mark and Dan explore the psychological rewiring that is happening as AI reshapes human agency, empathy, purpose, and trust. They confront the choice everyone faces: use AI to augment your thinking, or delegate so much that critical skills atrophy. This isn't another "AI will save us" or "AI will ruin everything" conversation. It's a balanced look at implications most people haven't considered—like algorithms becoming decision-makers, with conversion rates from AI referrals 23 times higher than those from traditional SEO. Listen in and hear about... The psychology of AI and how humanity is being rewired Choosing between augmentation and delegation in your AI usage Why algorithms are becoming your actual customers The loss of agency, empathy, and purpose when we depend too heavily on AI How AI reveals patterns you didn't know existed through intellectual archaeology Notable Quotes On The Psychology of AI: "No one's talking about the psychology of AI that literally before our eyes, humanity is being rewired. The psychology of human beings is changing." - Mark Schaefer [00:08:13 → 00:08:28] On Attention Spans: "Don't tell me people don't have a long attention span. The problem is they're being more selective. You've got to earn it. So it's not that they have a short attention span. You, You've got a short interesting span. They're abandoning you for something else." - Mark Schaefer [00:15:38 → 00:15:53] On The Power of Vulnerability: "What this world is lacking is a real human voice, friendly, accessible, vulnerable. And think about the power of that. To really be human. You've got to be. Have a sense of vulnerability. But we don't get that from brand voices. Very, very rarely. And think of the opportunity to stand out, to be audacious, to just by flubbing up once in a while, just by admitting you made a mistake every once in a while." - Mark Schaefer [00:27:37 → 00:28:05] Resources and Links Dan Nestle Inquisitive Communications | Website The Trending Communicator | Website Communications Trends from Trending Communicators | Dan Nestle's Substack Dan Nestle | LinkedIn Mark Schaefer Mark Schaefer | Website and Blog How AI Changes Your Customers | Book (Amazon) The Marketing Companion | Podcast Mark Schaefer | LinkedIn The RISE Community | Apply to Join Timestamps 0:00:00 AI's Impact: Dan's Intro and Use of NotebookLM0:03:03 Mark's Reaction: AI Enables Bolder, Creative Work0:05:16 Mutual Mentorship and AI Experimentation0:07:29 Mark's Book: Humanity's Changing Psychology with AI0:09:12 Agency, Empathy, Intimacy, and AI Decision-Making0:11:41 AI Search: GEO, Marketing to Algorithms0:13:02 The Golden Age of PR: Credibility and Authority0:15:13 Attention Span Myth & Content Selectivity0:17:21 Volume vs. Quality: Content for AI and Humans0:19:35 Cumulative Advantage & Brand Authority in AI Era0:21:42 Personal Brand Building: Quality is Essential0:23:13 Earning Social Signals & Genuine Content0:25:47 AI Editing, Strategic Awkwardness, and Vulnerability0:28:46 Challenges for Corporates: Embracing Awkwardness0:31:20 Feelings as a Competitive Advantage0:35:28 Transcendence: Artful, Long-Form, and Human Content0:37:56 Respecting the Reader: Content Length & Value0:39:55 Hopeful AI: Augmentation, Mentorship, Markbot0:42:24 Real Education & AI: Preparing Young People0:42:46 Closing Remarks: Book Recommendation & Mark's Links (Notes co-created by Human Dan, Claude, and Castmagic) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Mark W. Schaefer, Executive Director of Schaefer Marketing Solutions and a respected marketing futurist, joins us to discuss his new book, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. As AI continues to transform business and creativity, Mark makes a bold claim: the future belongs not to those who outsmart machines, but to those who out-human them. Audacious is his call to arms for marketers, creators, and leaders eager to start a new era of imagination and courage in the face of automation. Drawing from case studies, interviews, and more than 100 actionable insights, Mark reveals how to disrupt the three core pillars of brand storytelling to reclaim authenticity and creativity in a world drowning in AI-generated noise… This conversation explores: What prompted Mark to write Audacious. How to find your meaning in an AI-driven world. Why being human is the new competitive advantage in marketing. How to implement audacity into your brand story Mark is a globally recognized marketing strategist, keynote speaker, and bestselling author of Marketing Rebellion, KNOWN, and Belonging to the Brand. To learn more about him and his work, visit BusinessesGrow.com and join the movement at #AudaciousBook.

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As we navigate a world increasingly shaped by AI, it's easy to get lost in the technical details of prompts and automation. But what about the human side of the equation? If you're building a business based on your expertise, understanding how AI is rewiring our psychology and our customers' behaviour is critical. It changes how we build relationships, create content, and ultimately, how we monetise our knowledge.In this episode, I speak with Mark Schaefer about his latest book 'How AI Changes Your Customers: The Marketing Guide to Humanity's Next Chapter', which explores the profound psychological impact of AI on humanity and marketing. We moved beyond the usual talk of efficiency and productivity to discuss what it truly means to be human-centric in a world where AI can simulate empathy.Here are three key areas we explored:

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Mark Schaefer is keynote speaker, university educator, futurist, and bestselling author of books like Marketing Rebellion, Audacious, and most recently How AI Changes Your Customers.Mark also joined me a couple years ago, listen to Ep. 132: How AI Is Changing Marketing Forever & Why Creativity Matters More.Here's what we cover:What's changing with our customers, and how do we change alongside them;What scares you most about AI;What makes you hopeful;Why curiosity matters now more than ever;Where are you finding purpose and where can marketers find purpose at a time when we're kinda lost;Why awkwardness is a brand superpower;The 3 questions we should be asking to guide our company's next chapter.Mark on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/markwschaeferMark's website: businessesgrow.comFor more content, subscribe to Building With Buyers on Apple or Spotify or wherever, let me know what episodes you're into, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show. Music by my talented daughter.Anna on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠furmanovmarketing.com⁠⁠Newsletter: ⁠One Insight

Send us a textImagine algorithms that feel more attentive than people – always patient, never tired, and ready with the perfect follow‑up question. That illusion of empathy is already shaping how buyers research, decide, and stay loyal. We sit down with Mark Schaefer to unpack the human side of AI: cognitive offloading at scale, de‑skilling that changes how customers think, and what it means when assistants default to a single recommendation instead of a page of links.We dig into the new rules of discoverability and why text‑rich content, precise transcripts, and entity clarity now carry outsized weight with large language models. Mark explains why PR is having a renaissance as AI shifts from counting backlinks to interpreting authoritative mentions, and how urgency matters because early movers will lock in the default answers. We also explore the power of overrides—those human factors that still trump machine suggestions – like word‑of‑mouth, brand preference, and community trust that carries through to the moment of choice.The conversation moves beyond tactics to tackle a looming trust crisis. Deepfakes, synthetic media, and frictionless misinformation demand visible transparency: provenance for assets, clear disclosures, and rapid response playbooks. Yet there's optimism here. With daily experimentation and a strong learning community, founders and teams can use AI to compress go‑to‑market cycles, scale real empathy in service, and design products faster – without losing the human touch that makes brands memorable and resilient.If you're ready to future‑proof your marketing while staying deeply human, this one's for you. Listen, subscribe, and leave a review to help others find the show – and tell us: what's your smartest move to stay findable and trusted in an AI‑first world?This episode was recorded through a Descript call on October 7, 2025. Read the blog article and show notes here: https://webdrie.net/how-ai-changes-your-customers-mark-schaefers-new-book

AI can help you move faster, think clearer, and create better — but if you start letting it decide for you, you risk losing the very reason you became an entrepreneur in the first place: your freedom to choose. In this solo episode, Finola shares a powerful story from inside her SOAR program that triggered a gut-level “No, no, no!” reaction — and sparked this exploration of what happens when we hand over too much power to AI. You'll learn how to collaborate with AI without surrendering your strategy, your originality, or your voice. Because while AI can support you — it should never be the decision-maker in your business.

Mark Schaefer and Dana Malstaff discuss how they are utilizing AI in distinct ways to attract new customers. Mark built an expert-trained model called MarkBot that is informed by his life's work. This is available to all through his website.   Dana has created custom bots that encourage top-of-funnel engagement for her business while blending human connection that builds trust.    This episode is an inspiring and engaging discussion on breakthrough ideas to connect to customers by blending AI and the human touch.    Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," “Belonging to the Brand,” and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subscribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.   Dana Malstaff is an author, speaker, consultant, and the founder of Boss Mom.

Send us a textTwo launches, one clear direction: make technology usable and make marketing accountable. We open with the debut of RYO's LIFE Wallet, a super wallet designed for everyone. Start in seconds, sign in with biometrics, recover securely, and send crypto as easily as a text. With a roadmap that includes a global mall for direct payments, staking, NFTs, stablecoins, and AI assistance, the vision is practical: move crypto from speculation to everyday value.Then we turn to "The Future CMO," a 90-minute short read with a big thesis: the next marketing leader operates like a Chief Value Officer. No more marketing theater measured by impressions and likes. We outline eight dimensions of the modern CMO, ranging from narrative excellence with AI as a creative amplifier to content ecosystems that scale, from genuine community building to rigorous measurement of perception, trust, and outcomes. It's a blueprint for margin resilience, revenue impact, and real accountability to the board.Along the way, we share the tools and community that make change stick: a Trust ROI calculator, a community health score framework, curated AI prompts for speed and quality, plus mastermind calls and events like Sintra Synergies featuring industry voices such as Mark Schaefer. The through line is simple: lead with trust, master technology without losing human authenticity, and design for outcomes that matter. If that future speaks to you, subscribe, share this episode with a colleague, and leave a quick review. What shift will you make first?

A new research report shows how AI is re-wiring our customers — literally changing their psychology and buying habits. In this episode, Mark Schaefer previews a new book and explores what happens when humans offload their thinking to a machine.

What if the key to standing out in a noisy world isn't about shouting louder or spending more money? What if it's about embracing the crazy? In this episode of Insight Out, I sit down with Mark Schaefer, one of the sharpest marketing minds on the planet, to uncover the secrets of audacious marketing in an AI-dominated world. Mark, a New York Times bestselling author and marketing strategist, reveals how businesses can outshine the competition by tapping into the most uniquely human qualities crazy ideas, awe-inspiring experiences, and stories that people can't help but share. But here's the twist: What if the future of marketing isn't about algorithms, but about out-humaning AI? What if the most powerful tool in your arsenal is your ability to create something so bold, so unexpected, that it stops people in their tracks? Mark shares jaw-dropping stories from his new book, Audacious, including how a drone show in the Texas sky left an entire restaurant in awe, and how a brand called Liquid Death turned the water industry on its head by embracing the taboo. What's your audacious idea? What bold, crazy, unforgettable story will you create to stand out in a world drowning in noise? Tune in to this episode to find out how you can start today. In this episode, you will learn the following: How to create marketing moments that stop people in their tracks. Why awe is the secret ingredient to unforgettable branding. How to disrupt traditional narratives and break taboos like Liquid Death. The five-act storytelling structure that makes ads stick. How to turn customers into passionate brand advocates through word-of-mouth marketing. In This Episode: [01:33] Introducing Mark Schaefer [03:54] The impactful drone show [13:21] The role of awe in marketing [21:34] Liquid Death: A case study in bold marketing [25:02] From flat to 3D marketing [26:11] Innovative storytelling in unexpected places [26:56] Creative marketing on a budget [28:34] The power of experiential marketing [29:15] The role of education in marketing [31:49] The art of storytelling in advertising [37:09] Systematic word-of-mouth marketing [44:37] The impact of social objects in marketing [48:09] Final thoughts and takeaways Notable Quotes [01:06] “Most marketing today is boring. It's predictable, it's ignorable. But standing out isn't about spending more money or shouting louder—it's about doing something truly different.” – Billy [02:55] “Instead of playing it safe, instead of doing what you think you're supposed to do, we're going to talk about how you actually stand out.” – Billy [10:49] “AI can be competent, but it can't create human connection. If you're just competent, you're vulnerable—because competent is ignorable.” – Mark Schaefer [37:09] “Word of mouth marketing is the most powerful form of marketing, yet most brands don't have a system for it. It's time to change that.” – Mark Schaefer [44:37] “The best marketing isn't just seen—it's experienced. People remember the emotions, the moments, and the stories, not just the ads.” – Mark Schaefer Resources and Links Mark Schaefer ⁠Website⁠ ⁠Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World⁠ ⁠The Marketing Companion⁠ Billy Samoa ⁠Facebook⁠ ⁠X (formerly Twitter)⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠ ⁠YouTube This is an encore episode and was originally published on March 21, 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AI has made it faster, cheaper, and easier than ever to create content. But if everyone can crank out something “decent,” everything starts to look the same — and sameness is boring. On this episode of Talking Too Loud, Mark Schaefer, marketing strategist and author of Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World, explains why competence is vulnerable, why boldness is the only real edge, and how brands can double down on what AI can't fake: trust, emotion, and humanity.Learn more about Mark SchaeferFollow Savage on LinkedInSubscribe to Talking Too Loud on WistiaWatch on YouTubeFollow Talking Too Loud on InstagramFollow Talking Too Loud on TikTokLove what you heard? Leave us a review!On AppleOn Spotify

Send us a textThe marketing landscape is transforming rapidly, and leadership must evolve with it. That's the driving insight behind my exciting announcement today – my new book "The Future CMO" is almost ready to launch! After sharing keynote stages with Philip Kotler in Cairo and Dennis Yu in Portugal, I realized the message I've been developing over years was finally coming together in a powerful way.What started as a conversation with Mark Schaefer in July – "You're already doing the work, your book is halfway done" – has blossomed into a focused, actionable guide for modern marketing leaders. This isn't a lengthy theoretical tome; it's a sharp 90-minute read designed specifically for marketers, founders, and decision-makers navigating the complexities of AI, Web3, and the overwhelming technological noise we all face today."The Future CMO" explores how marketing leadership must evolve from strategist to integrator, from campaign thinker to system builder. I dive into critical themes of visibility, trust, and storytelling while making the case that tomorrow's most effective marketing leaders will guide their organizations not just with metrics, but with meaning. The e-book launches this September, followed by the paperback in October. If you'd like to be part of this journey – as an early reader, launch team member, or just someone who wants to grab the book when it's available, reach out to me via https://webdrie.net. The future of marketing starts with how we choose to show up, and I'd love for you to join me in exploring what that means for all of us.This episode was recorded via Descript on Sep 3, 2025. 

Mark Schaefer has a new grandchild. Amanda Russell has a toddler. Both of them wonder what an AI-dominant world has in store for them.    In this personal and introspective episode, Mark and Amanda reflect on what college meant to their careers, the advice they would give to kids about college today, and how education will need to change for Gen Alpha.    This is an essential episode for everyone wondering how AI will impact the next generation.   Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," “Belonging to the Brand,” and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subcribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.      Amanda Russell is a marketing leader, entrepreneur, and scholar. By age 32, she built and sold two successful businesses: an online fitness subscription community for women and a digital marketing and production company. She served as Chief Marketing Officer at a NYC-based portfolio fund and developed the world's first accredited MBA & EMBA Influencer Marketing programs at Northwestern University. She also founded the Global Center for Influence at the University of Texas. Amanda has taught at renowned institutions such as Bocconi University, London Business School, Harvard, Wharton, HEC Paris, NYU, and the University of Stockholm. Her book, "The Influencer Code," explores influence, consumer behavior, and the future of marketing. Amanda advises major companies, including Lamborghini, Cedars-Sinai, Lionsgate, and Silk-FAW.  

As use of AI soars and customers place more trust in AI, the bots are making decisions for our customers. From vacations to recipes, we're using AI in creative ways to make our lives easier and skip the time to analyze options. But how does AI make the decision? The platforms are getting their information from somewhere. What is the role of traditional content and marketing? The answer will surprise you. In this far-reaching show, Mark Schaefer and Andy Crestodina explore new research on how AI makes decisions and what matters. This episode also contains extraordinary bonus content.   Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," “Belonging to the Brand,” and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subscribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.   Andy Crestodina is CMO and Co-Founder of Orbit Media, an award-winning 55-person digital agency. He has 23_ years of experience in analytics, SEO, content strategy and visitor psychology ...and months of experience in AI.   Andy has applied his expertise in SEO and conversions to drive both visibility and lead generation for 1000+ businesses since 2001.

The Ultimate Pet Sitter Content Creation System That Actually Works If you hate creating content… this episode is for you. I am not selling anything, rather blowing the lid off how EASY it can actually be to create a pet sitter content creation system that WORKS and doesn't overwhelm you. In this episode, I am going to show you EXACTLY what I do… and how you can finally break the cycle of scrambling, ghosting, and giving up. We'll talk about the mindset blocks that hold most pet sitters back, why “posting consistently” is bad advice without a system, and how to create intentional, reusable content that builds trust and books clients on autopilot. This isn't theory—it's the real, raw behind-the-scenes of how I plan, organize, and repurpose content across platforms without losing my mind. If you're ready to make content finally feel doable, repeatable, and actually strategic... this episode is your permission slip. Timestamps 2:02 – Why most pet sitters are stuck in a feast-or-famine content cycle 5:40 – My no-fluff rule: If you wouldn't say it in real life, don't post it 9:03 – The 3 stages of my pet sitter content creation system 14:20 – How to batch months of posts in a few focused hours 18:55 – The secret to repurposing content without sounding repetitive Notable Quotes "You don't need more time—you need a system that respects your energy." "Pet sitter content creation doesn't have to drain you. It can free you." "Posting just to post is like barking into the void. Let's stop that." Resources & Links Connect on IG: @bellavasta Book a 20-min strategy call: Let's build a custom local marketing plan together Surround yourself with other forward-thinking petpreneurs. Join Bella's Mastermind. Watch all our Podcasts on YouTube Here is last week's episode: ? Transcript Hello, and welcome to another episode of Bella in Your Business. Today, we're diving into how you're actually known in your local area. We're going to cover a lot—my goal is to light your brain on fire and give you real examples from your fellow pet business owners who are doing this successfully. Thank you for all the likes, comments, and subscribes! I love hearing from those of you who book a call at jumpconsulting.net/20 and say you found me through the podcast. That makes my heart so happy, because honestly, I'm just sitting in my office talking to a ring light. Knowing you're out there listening makes it all worth it. In my community, we've spent the past month focused on getting your name out there everywhere. Some of what I say might sting a little, but stick with me. This could be the difference between your business thriving or just surviving. Imagine having a bunch of unpaid salespeople out there working for you just because you're known in your community. Are you actually known in your area? There's a book called Known by my friend Mark Schaefer, a great read that ties into today's topic. Being “known” isn't about a logo or being online—it's about walking into a room and people recognizing you and the energy you bring. If that's not happening yet, you're missing out on one of the most powerful, cost-effective tools in business. I get that networking can be uncomfortable. Maybe you don't like being the center of attention, and your ego is blocking you right now. But this isn't about you—it's about your business. Local marketing for pet businesses starts with you being known in your community. It's non-negotiable. I'm going to give you the blueprint that actually works. In my mastermind last month, we spent four weeks on tactical local marketing. One of our members, who you might've seen on my Instagram stories, had this moment: she walks into a coffee shop and hears someone say, “Oh my gosh! Are you the Wonder Pops person?” And that wasn't even the first time that week. She was just wearing her business shirt—no flyers, no pitch—just existing. And her brand was recognized.

Why 90% of Pet Sitters FAIL at Local Marketing for Pet Businesses (The Secret Strategy That Actually Works) What if the biggest thing holding your pet business back... is that no one really knows you exist? If your name doesn't ring a bell in your own community, you're not just missing clients—you're missing credibility, connection, and cash. In this episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on Local Pet Business Marketing—what actually works, what most pet pros are getting wrong, and how you can stand out without feeling awkward or pushy. We'll dive into how to turn your business anniversary into a publicity machine, create buzz through local partnerships, and build instant trust that Google ads can't buy. Plus, I'm sharing real-world wins from petpreneurs in my Mastermind who are becoming local legends—and the exact strategies they used to do it. If you're tired of being your area's best-kept secret… it's time to fix that. Let's go. In This Episode, You'll Learn... How to build local visibility that actually converts Why your pet biz anniversary is a PR goldmine The ONE mindset shift that will change how you network forever Real examples of pet business owners dominating their communities What to include in your “grab-and-go” event kit Timestamps 1:25 – The difference between being visible and being known in your community 4:58 – Real-life story of a pet sitter becoming a “local celeb” (without even trying) 10:15 – How to use your business anniversary as a publicity magnet 16:45 – Why being present locally builds trust faster than any ad ever could 20:55 – What to include in your "event kit" so you're always ready for exposure opportunities Notable Quotes "Local pet business marketing isn't about logos—it's about connection and consistency." "Pet parents aren't looking for perfection. They're looking for presence." "You don't need the world to know you—you need your neighbors to know you." Resources & Links Connect on IG: @bellavasta Book a 20-min strategy call: Let's build a custom local marketing plan together Surround yourself with other forward-thinking petpreneurs. Join Bella's Mastermind. Free Download: Guerrilla Marketing Kit for Pet Businesses Watch all our Podcasts on YouTube Here is last week's episode: Transcript Hello, and welcome to another episode of Bella in Your Business. Today, we're diving into how you're actually known in your local area. We're going to cover a lot—my goal is to light your brain on fire and give you real examples from your fellow pet business owners who are doing this successfully. Thank you for all the likes, comments, and subscribes! I love hearing from those of you who book a call at jumpconsulting.net/20 and say you found me through the podcast. That makes my heart so happy, because honestly, I'm just sitting in my office talking to a ring light. Knowing you're out there listening makes it all worth it. In my community, we've spent the past month focused on getting your name out there everywhere. Some of what I say might sting a little, but stick with me. This could be the difference between your business thriving or just surviving. Imagine having a bunch of unpaid salespeople out there working for you just because you're known in your community. Are you actually known in your area? There's a book called Known by my friend Mark Schaefer, a great read that ties into today's topic. Being “known” isn't about a logo or being online—it's about walking into a room and people recognizing you and the energy you bring. If that's not happening yet, you're missing out on one of the most powerful, cost-effective tools in business. I get that networking can be uncomfortable. Maybe you don't like being the center of attention, and your ego is blocking you right now. But this isn't about you—it's about your business. Local marketing for pet businesses starts with you being known in your community.

Gini Dietrich is a well-known thought leader, author, and entrepreneur in the corporate communications space. Her PESO marketing framework has become a standard framework for PR and marketing professionals. In this episode, Mark Schaefer's special guest host talks about how the model has evolved in an era where consumer attention "acts differently." She also discusses how she is aggressively integrating AI in her client relations practices. 

What ideas haunt you? What can't you stop thinking about, you care about it that much? As public voices and experts, we all have those ideas that chase us around and color how we see everything. The thing is, our audience might not "get it" the way we do, nor care. So we have to work overtime to show them why they would. This in turn creates a sense of urgency in the audience: to care, share, subscribe, buy, or take action of some kind.That kind of urgency is the role of the story we'll hear today for my friend, Mark Schaefer. It's a story from his keynotes and his new book, AUDACIOUS: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing WorldMark is a globally-touring keynote speaker and the author of more than 10 books on marketing, technology, and business growth. He's worked with clients like Adidas, Johnson & Johnson, and Dell, and has appeared on CNN and in The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times. In addition to his speaking and services, Mark is also faculty member of the graduate program at Rutgers University, and hosts the popular podcast The Marketing Companion—where I appear as co-host every few months!Today we talk about how to tell stories that show others something important you already see, so they care. Plus, signs you've rehearsed your speech enough to nail it and communication tripwires which can cause the audience to object to your ideas (and how to avoid them).This is a fun one, with my friend, Mark Schaefer.Find and follow Mark at businessesgrow.com and on LinkedIn. Get a copy of AUDACIOUS at businessesgrow.com/audacious***ABOUT ME, JAY ACUNZO:Subscribe to my free newsletter at jayacunzo.com/newsletterWork with me one-on-one: jayacunzo.com/servicesBook me to speak to your group: jayacunzo.com/keynotesConnect with me on social: LinkedIn, InstagramI help experts differentiate and resonate. Together, I work with you to develop a distinct and memorable premise driving your platform, turn that big idea into signature IP you own, and help you embody it as a speaker and storyteller. Compete on the impact of your thinking, not the volume of your marketing. This makes it easier to win more and better clients.You've done lots of things. Now it's time to [be] a thing. Stop chasing attention and become more highly sought.***TO RATE AND REVIEW THE SHOW:Leave a review on Apple Podcasts Leave a rating on Spotify Thanks for listening!

When you start writing a book, it's easy to get caught up in trying to make every word perfect. But here's the truth: your first draft is just the beginning. The real transformation happens through revision, reflection, and the support you gather along the way. Writing a book doesn't have to be a lonely or overwhelming journey. At the Biz Book Pub Hub, we're creating a different experience—one where authors are supported by a community of experts who can guide you from the first sentence to a fully launched and strategically marketed book. Whether you're facing creative roadblocks, shaping your message, or building your author platform, the Hub connects you with the tools, feedback, and community that can help. Plus, our free virtual networking events give you the chance to learn from professionals and connect with fellow authors who get what this process is really like. If you're looking for guidance on the writing journey, visit www.BizBookPubHub.com and explore how we can support your next step. Now, let's hear from today's panelists as they share how they moved from blank page to published book—and how that book helped grow their impact and business. Jim MacLeod wrote “The Visual Marketer: The Marketer's Crash Course for Creating Memorable and Effective Visuals,” a practical guide that empowers marketers to create high-impact, results-driven visuals—without needing a design background—by mastering essential design principles and tools. Susan Fitzell wrote “Neurodiversity in the Workplace: Maximizing Success through Inclusive Dynamic Workplace Design™,” a strategic guide for C-suite leaders to unlock innovation and boost performance by building inclusive, neurodiverse teams through practical, business-driven solutions. Wendy Hutchinson wrote “Finding the Path of Me: Awakening to Remembering Who I Am and Why I Am Here,” a powerful guide to healing, self-discovery, and spiritual awakening—offering tools and insights to help you release what no longer serves you and rise into your most authentic, empowered self. Please join me in welcoming Jim, Susan, and Wendy.  In this episode, we discuss the following:

Mark Schaefer and Dana Malstaff discuss practical applications to use ChatGPT to build your own private, personal AI advisors to reach clients, expand your reach, and fuel your personal growth. This is an easy and accessible way to create new capabilities for your business without any coding knowledge.   Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," “Belonging to the Brand,” and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subcribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.   Dana Malstaff is a serial entrepreneur, author, and founder of the Boss Mom franchise of media properties and businesses. 

#261 AI & Creativity | In this episode, Dave is joined by Mark Schaefer, marketing strategist, keynote speaker, and author of 11 books, including his latest, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. Mark has spent decades studying the intersection of marketing, tech, and human behavior, and his ideas have helped reshape how B2B brands think about relevance, creativity, and differentiation in a noisy digital world.Dave and Mark cover:Why playing it safe is the biggest threat to B2B marketers in the AI eraHow to create marketing that actually connects by disrupting the story, the channel, or the storytellerReal examples of B2B brands ditching “best practices” and standing out with emotional, human-first marketingYou'll come away with a fresh perspective on how to stay relevant, creative, and impactful, especially as AI becomes a bigger part of your marketing stack.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:34) - – Why most marketing is boring (08:04) - – The danger of “best practices” (12:04) - – Why AI is amplifying bad marketing (15:34) - – The rise of raw, lo-fi, human content (18:34) - – What AI can't replicate: shared experiences (22:04) - – Fear, risk, and the big brand trap (25:34) - – Using AI to enhance, not replace, creativity (31:50) - – The real framework behind Audacious (34:50) - – B2B examples that break the mold (40:20) - – Why now is the time to stand out (44:50) - – Making bold marketing happen inside your org (49:20) - – Liquid Death, Nutter Butter, and brand disruption (53:50) - – B2B doesn't mean boring (57:50) - – The one question every marketer should ask Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Zuddl.We're halfway through 2025, and one thing's clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone's leaning in.Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we've hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we're deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that's how we've been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025. Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more. 

In this wide-ranging talk with AI marketing strategist Mathew Sweezey, we cover a lot of ground, including AI's need for marketing speed, the human bottleneck, the reality of agents, a softer view of generative AI legal concerns, and reimagining the nature of creativity.    Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books, including "KNOWN," “Belonging to the Brand,” and "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subscribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking.   Mathew Sweezey is the Principal Consultant – AI Transformation for the Monks Agency. He has been a leading futurist and thought-leader on AI, Web3, and eCommerce. He is a best selling author, and avid adventurer. 

Human vs. Machine Mayhem Marketing maven Mark Schaefer returns to EDGE of the Web, diving headfirst into the audacious art of brand disruption in a world brimming with AI-generated noise.  We unpack Schaefer's latest book, "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World" offering wild tales of brands that drop the cookie-cutter for shock, spectacle, and seriously weird TikToks (lookin' at you, Nutter Butter). From QR codes in the sky luring diners out of restaurants, to the marketing taboo-breakers of Liquid Death and ELF Cosmetics, we explore how marketers can stir emotion, break convention—without getting canceled—and measure the impact when you throw the box away altogether. Pro tip? If your marketing feels safe, it's probably boring, and AI will eat your lunch. Mark serves up a snappy checklist for dodging legal snooze-fests and making campaigns people actually remember—because sometimes a little weird goes a long way. Key Segments: [00:02:22] The Book! [00:07:41] Reimagining Storytelling with AI [00:08:48] Unconventional Brand-Audience Connection Spaces [00:14:36] EDGE of the Web Title Sponsor: Site Strategics [00:15:55]  What Taboos are Worth Breaking [00:25:29] EDGE of The Web Sponsor: Inlinks (WAIKAY) [00:30:38] Unprecedented Innovation Evaluation [00:31:52] Embracing Unconventional Marketing Opportunities Thanks to Our Sponsors! Site Strategics: http://edgeofthewebradio.com/site Inlinks/WAIKAY: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay  Follow Our Guest Twitter: https://x.com/markwschaefer  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwschaefer/  Resources: https://businessesgrow.com/ https://businessesgrow.com/audacious/

Are you creating content to build an audience, build a brand, or win the SEO sweepstakes? How does content really work in the world today? It's complicated, but Mark Schaefer and Jay Acunzo have a meeting of the minds in this fast-paced and provocative show.    Mark Schaefer is a strategy consultant, college educator, keynote speaker, and the author of 10 books including "KNOWN," “Belonging to the Brand,” and "Marketing Rebellion." His annual marketing retreat is The Uprising.   For more of Mark's insights every week, subcribe to his award-winning blog. Mark also offers classes in personal branding and professional speaking   Jay Acunzo consults experts and entrepreneurs to differentiate their messages and content. He hosts the podcast How Stories Happen, where guests dissect signature stories piece by piece, and runs the Creator Kitchen, where experts learn to become stronger storytellers. Learn more at jayacunzo.com

Other than AI, is there any word about marketing more prevalent than "authenticity?" And yet, it might be one of the most misunderstood and abused words out there.    In this deeply personal show, Mark Schaefer and Amanda Russell discuss how authenticity can help you, how it can destroy you, and how it might be more of a strategy than a default setting for a personal brand. 

Mark Schaefer returns to EDGE of the Web to share his vision of marketing's future in an AI-saturated landscape. With a blend of insight and candor, Mark tackles the evolution of social media, the risks and rewards of AI, and how brands can stand out by tapping into authentic human emotion. Hear why traditional marketing is falling flat and discover what “everyday awe” means for building deep brand loyalty. Plus, Mark unveils the tech twist behind the cover of his new book, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. This is not just another marketing chat; it's a call to disrupt before you're disrupted. Key Segments: [00:04:12] Marc Schaefer: Marketing Visionary [00:07:55] Shift to Private Online Spaces [00:12:45] EDGE of the Web Title Sponsor: Site Strategics [00:15:35] Innovative Tech Saves Podcast Episode [00:17:28] AI Mimicking Voices of Deceased Relatives [00:21:49] Brand Marketing's Emotional Impact [00:23:25] Everyday Awe and Collective Effervescence [00:29:41] EDGE of The Web Sponsor: Inlinks (WAIKAY) [00:32:21] "Audacious" Book Concept Exploration Thanks to Our Sponsors! Site Strategics: http://edgeofthewebradio.com/site Inlinks/WAIKAY: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay  Follow Our Guest Twitter: https://x.com/markwschaefer  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwschaefer/  Resources: https://businessesgrow.com/ https://businessesgrow.com/audacious/ 

New research from Microsoft provides a glimpse of the near-term future of marketing agency life, including AI bosses, agentic employees, and new organizational charts. And, if you're a small agency, this might be your time to shine! Mark Schaefer and Andy Crestodina riff on the implications of te AI-first agency in this new episode of The Marketing Companion.

Brian Piper is an author, speaker, and consultant.  In this episode, returning guest Brian talks about his recent shift into full time consulting, blending his background of content optimization, marketing, and strategy with the opportunities of AI.  We dive deep into building communities and how to be audience-centric, while leveraging AI responsibly to deepen connections.Brian Piper is an author, award-winning international keynote speaker, and consultant. Brian has been optimizing digital content since 1996. He has created online training programs for dozens of companies, including Xerox, L3Harris, IBM, and Volvo, and has spoken at hundreds of conferences and events.Brian has spent the last eight years focusing on data analytics, digital marketing, and content strategy. Since 2021, he has been diving into AI, web3, community building, and the metaverse.Brian wrote Epic Content Marketing for Higher Education and co-authored the second edition of Epic Content Marketing with Joe Pulizzi. He is a contributing author and co-editor of The Most Amazing Marketing Book Ever with Mark Schaefer and a contributing author of The Content Entrepreneur with Joe Pulizzi. Brian was named one of the top higher education marketers to follow in 2023 and 2024.Brian is the host of the AI for U podcast, which focuses on practical AI implementation and use cases in higher education institutions.He is chair of the Marcom AI Committee and a member of the AI Council at the University of Rochester.When he's not creating data visualizations, he teaches wingsuit skydiving and spends time with his wife and six children.AI for U - Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ai-for-u/id1761664650?i=1000664646814To learn more, visit:linkedin.com/in/jason-Shupp-18b4619bListen to more episodes on Mission Matters:https://missionmatters.com/author/Jason-Shupp/

In this compelling episode of the Partnering Leadership podcast, Mark Schaefer returns to share fresh, provocative insights from his latest book, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. A globally respected marketing strategist, bestselling author, and deep observer of technological change, Schaefer brings sharp clarity to a pressing leadership question: what does it take to stay relevant when artificial intelligence makes intelligence itself abundant?Rather than offering a simplistic take on AI, Schaefer challenges leaders to confront a more nuanced truth: AI doesn't just change how we work—it redefines where we create value. In a world where intelligence is cheap and accessible to everyone, he argues, leaders must shift their organizations from knowledge accumulation to human differentiation.The conversation dives into what “out-humaning” AI actually looks like. From designing moments of awe to fostering fearless creativity, Schaefer offers examples and frameworks that push beyond theory. He connects storytelling, community-building, and emotional resonance not just as marketing strategies—but as core leadership capabilities that machines can't replicate.This episode is a must-listen for CEOs, board members, and senior executives grappling with the implications of AI. It's not about resisting the future—it's about recognizing what only humans can do, and leading teams to do it with more clarity, urgency, and creativity than ever before.Actionable TakeawaysYou'll learn why intelligence is no longer a competitive advantage—and what replaces it at the leadership level.Hear how to reframe your organizational structure and decision-making in a world where AI handles most of the “smart work.”Discover what Mark Schaefer means by “out-humaning AI” and why that's now your most important leadership mandate.You'll learn why competence is no longer enough—and how leaders who rely on it alone risk irrelevance.Hear how to use awe, authenticity, and community as strategic tools to build trust and emotional engagement that AI can't touch.You'll learn how to think about brand relevance and personal credibility when your audience knows AI could have written your content.Hear how to identify and overcome the fear that's keeping your organization stuck in mediocrity.You'll learn what makes bold storytelling and immersive experience design the next frontier in business leadership.Hear how to embrace AI as a creative partner without outsourcing your strategic soul.Connect with Mark Schaefer :Website: Businesses GrowSocial Media: Twitter | LinkedInConnect with Mahan Tavakoli: Mahan Tavakoli Website Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn Partnering Leadership Website

As AI marches forward with speed and power, new questions emerge about how humans thrive in a world of super intelligence. We already see AI creeping into workflows, organizational charts and even our personal relationships. Mark Schaefer and Paul Roetzer look at a few of these topics as they help us navigate an AI-First World. 

Brainfluence host Roger Dooley sits down with marketing thought leader and bestselling author Mark Schaefer, who returns to the show with insights from his latest book, Audacious. Mark shares his unique approach to writing—how each of his books is inspired by real problems facing marketers—and discusses the existential challenges and opportunities posed by AI-driven marketing. Discover how both brands and individuals can stand out in an age of overwhelming content, why out-humaning AI is the key to survival, and what it means to be “audacious” in a world often dominated by the dull and predictable. From tangible examples, like the unforgettable fiberglass pig in a barbecue joint and Liquid Death's disruptive branding, to innovative uses of AI and QR codes, Mark offers practical strategies for earning attention, regardless of budget. He also tackles the importance of organizational culture, the role of fear in stifling creativity, and the critical connection between personal branding and professional audacity. Whether you're a marketer, entrepreneur, or just hungry for the latest thinking on breaking through the noise, this episode is packed with inspiration and actionable advice you won't want to miss. Audacious on Amazon - https://amzn.to/4k55iqp Connect with Mark:  Website - https://businessesgrow.com/ X - https://x.com/markwschaefer LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markwschaefer Show notes, audio, text, links - https://www.rogerdooley.com/audacious-mark-schaefer/ Connect with Roger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dooley/  Website: https://www.rogerdooley.com Mark W. Schaefer is a globally recognized keynote speaker, educator, business consultant, and bestselling author of ten books. With over 30 years of experience in global sales, PR, and marketing, he serves as the Executive Director of Schaefer Marketing Solutions and holds faculty positions at Rutgers University and the University of Tennessee. Known for insightful and practical books like Audacious, which addresses navigating the AI world, and KNOWN, considered the world's number one book on personal branding, his work is used as textbooks at over 70 universities and translated into 15 languages. Schaefer's blog {grow} is hailed as one of the top marketing blogs in the world, and he is the founder and co-host of The Marketing Companion, one of the top 10 marketing podcasts. He consults for diverse clients from successful start-ups to global brands. His work often focuses on helping marketers rise above the noise by emphasizing humanity and finding ways to stand out in the digital age and amidst the rise of AI.

Mark Schaefer is a globally recognized marketing futurist, bestselling author of Marketing Rebellion and The Content Code, and host of the top-ranked Marketing Companion podcast. He's also a keynote speaker and trusted strategy consultant to some of the world's leading brands. In this episode, Mark joins the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast to discuss his latest book, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. He shares powerful insights on why human-centered marketing is the antidote to AI saturation and how bold, creative branding, emotional connection, and shared experiences are reshaping modern marketing strategy. If you're looking to stand out in the age of automation, this episode is your roadmap. Today we discussed: 00:00 Opening 00:09 Introducing Mark Schaefer 00:59 Where Do Humans Fit in an AI Dominated World? 04:09 A World Without Shared Experiences 07:00 How to Out-Human AI 09:44 Embracing Every Day Awe 13:08 How AI is Changing Consumer Behavior 17:25 Story of the Book Cover 19:17 Start with Wrong Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us know what you loved most about the episode. Struggling with strategy? Unlock your free AI-powered prompts now and start building a winning strategy today!

In this highly intimate and vulnerable show, Mark Schaefer and Dana Malstaff discuss the times in their lives when they've had to keep a business running through illness, loss, and betrayal. To be human is to suffer and the world doesn't stop for us when the suffering comes. Mark and Dana share how they have kept going even through the hardest moments in their lives. A Marketing Companion episode you won't soon forget.

What does it really take to stand out in today's noisy, ever-changing digital landscape? Mark Schaefer—globally recognized author, keynote speaker, and marketing futurist—joins us to unpack the mindset, strategy, and subtle power moves behind meaningful marketing.In this episode, Mark shares why social media engagement might be overrated, how to push past fear without being loud, and why awe is one of the most underutilized forces in marketing today. If you're a brand builder, creative, or entrepreneur seeking deeper connection with your audience, this conversation is for you.[2:43] Writing his 11th book  [3:50] About Mark Schaefer and his impact on marketing  [6:06] Why today's consumers are evolving fast  [8:53] Taking risks and the first step to get past fear  [9:52] Audacity in branding doesn't have to be loud  [12:24] The power of awe in marketing  [18:05] Why social media engagement is overrated  [27:26] Showing up in unexpected places for your customers  [32:57] Rethinking how you position your productJoin the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation Get your ticket to EVOLVE 2025 - $200 off when you use the code rooted Join our newsletter for all the latest marketing news for retailers Show off your super fandom by getting your Rooted in Retail Merch!

How do we break through the noise in industries that have normalized dull? You're about to embark on a crazy journey of misfit Barbies, back alley tee shirts, and criminal wine as Mark Schaefer and Carla Johnson explore the crisis of imagination in marketing. We all want to do better work ... what is holding us back? Plenty, as it turns out! 

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli speaks with Mark Schaefer, a renowned bestselling author of popular marketing books. The conversation focuses on Mark Schaefer's latest book, Belonging to the Brand: Why Community is the Last Great Marketing Strategy.During the discussion, Mark Schaefer shares valuable insights on personal branding, courageous leadership, and the power of humility. Emphasizing the significance of community in marketing, he explores how organizations can successfully build and nurture thriving communities. Mark also discusses the shift from traditional advertising to social media and how creating a sense of community among audiences leads to stronger emotional connections.The conversation includes compelling examples of companies effectively engaging their customers through community-building initiatives. Mahan and Mark explore the psychological bonds within a community and how these connections translate to heightened brand loyalty. Discover the leadership insights of the legendary Peter Drucker and how his ability to distill complexity can transform your approach to management.Uncover the power of community in marketing and how it can drive revenue, heal, and create a sense of purpose.Learn from real-life examples of big and small companies that have successfully built communities and generated massive success.Explore the challenges of leading a community while maintaining alignment and discover the breakthrough ideas and innovation that can arise from a thriving community.Understand how the pandemic has highlighted the importance of community in marketing and how it can serve as a powerful healing force in society.Gain insights into the importance of purpose in building a community and how involving customers or fans can create a better world together.Learn how to build a personal brand in the digital age, leveraging the power of the internet to attract a supportive audience.Understand the importance of community and purpose in building thriving communities and how they can engage loyal customers and build on each other.Gain insights into building a community and personal brand, focusing on trust and collaboration.Explore the power of creating meaningful moments and connections within a community and how it can lead to stronger emotional relationships with your audience.Uncover the overlooked value of community in brand marketing and the power of user-generated content and brand advocacy.Connect with Mark SchaeferMark Schaefer Website Mark Schaefer on LinkedIn Belonging to the Brand: Why Community Is the Last Great Marketing Strategy on Amazon Connect with Mahan Tavakoli: Mahan Tavakoli Website Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn Partnering Leadership Website

Mark Schaefer, marketing expert and author, joins me to discuss his latest book "Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World." We explore the importance of breaking bad rules for good reasons in marketing, the power of word-of-mouth, and the need for brands to create meaningful experiences. Mark challenges conventional marketing norms, emphasizing the value of play, humor, and embracing imperfection in brand strategies. We delve into the concept of "collective effervescence" and how brands can create shared experiences that lead to emotional connections. The conversation touches on the broader implications of AI in marketing and the enduring importance of human creativity and audacity in a world increasingly dominated by algorithms.

Are your tried and true marketing tactics losing their impact? Wondering how to adapt and stay relevant with consumers? To discover why disruptive storytelling is the key to thriving in today's marketing environment and learn practical strategies for building deeper customer relationships and making content stand out, I interview Mark Schaefer.Guest: Mark Schaefer | Show Notes: socialmediaexaminer.com/659Review our show on Apple Podcasts.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What if the key to standing out in a noisy world isn't about shouting louder or spending more money? What if it's about embracing the crazy? In this episode of Insight Out, I sit down with Mark Schaefer, one of the sharpest marketing minds on the planet, to uncover the secrets of audacious marketing in an AI-dominated world. Mark, a New York Times bestselling author and marketing strategist, reveals how businesses can outshine the competition by tapping into the most uniquely human qualities crazy ideas, awe-inspiring experiences, and stories that people can't help but share. But here's the twist: What if the future of marketing isn't about algorithms, but about out-humaning AI? What if the most powerful tool in your arsenal is your ability to create something so bold, so unexpected, that it stops people in their tracks? Mark shares jaw-dropping stories from his new book, Audacious, including how a drone show in the Texas sky left an entire restaurant in awe, and how a brand called Liquid Death turned the water industry on its head by embracing the taboo. What's your audacious idea? What bold, crazy, unforgettable story will you create to stand out in a world drowning in noise? Tune in to this episode to find out how you can start today. In this episode, you will learn the following: How to create marketing moments that stop people in their tracks. Why awe is the secret ingredient to unforgettable branding. How to disrupt traditional narratives and break taboos like Liquid Death. The five-act storytelling structure that makes ads stick. How to turn customers into passionate brand advocates through word-of-mouth marketing. In This Episode: [01:33] Introducing Mark Schaefer [03:54] The impactful drone show [13:21] The role of awe in marketing [21:34] Liquid Death: A case study in bold marketing [25:02] From flat to 3D marketing [26:11] Innovative storytelling in unexpected places [26:56] Creative marketing on a budget [28:34] The power of experiential marketing [29:15] The role of education in marketing [31:49] The art of storytelling in advertising [37:09] Systematic word-of-mouth marketing [44:37] The impact of social objects in marketing [48:09] Final thoughts and takeaways Notable Quotes [01:06] “Most marketing today is boring. It's predictable, it's ignorable. But standing out isn't about spending more money or shouting louder—it's about doing something truly different.” – Billy [02:55] “Instead of playing it safe, instead of doing what you think you're supposed to do, we're going to talk about how you actually stand out.” – Billy [10:49] “AI can be competent, but it can't create human connection. If you're just competent, you're vulnerable—because competent is ignorable.” – Mark Schaefer [37:09] “Word of mouth marketing is the most powerful form of marketing, yet most brands don't have a system for it. It's time to change that.” – Mark Schaefer [44:37] “The best marketing isn't just seen—it's experienced. People remember the emotions, the moments, and the stories, not just the ads.” – Mark Schaefer Resources and Links Mark Schaefer Website Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World The Marketing Companion Billy Samoa Facebook X (formerly Twitter) Instagram LinkedIn YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week's episode of Win The Hour, Win The Day Podcast interviews, Mark Schaefer. Are you blending in when you should be standing out? Join Kris Ward and Mark Schaefer as they reveal how to break through the noise in an AI-driven world. In this eye-opening conversation, you'll learn:-Why imperfection makes content more engaging and real.-How to use AI without losing your unique voice.-Simple ways to disrupt marketing without big budgets.-Why storytelling is your most powerful business tool.-The biggest mistake people make with AI content. Don't get lost in a sea of sameness—discover how to make your brand unforgettable. Tune in now! Win The Hour, Win The Day! www.winthehourwintheday.com  Podcast: Win The Hour, Win The Day Podcast  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/winthehourwintheday/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/win-the-hour-win-the-day-podcast You can find Mark Schaefer at:Website:  https://businessesgrow.com/Podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-marketing-companion/id663933566 #DisruptiveMarketing#AuthenticBranding#KrisWard