Podcasts about Tokoroa

Last night on 1News I heard the single most logical and sane thing said in the entire bulletin in a long time. It was said by Simon Upton, the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment. A very smart man. A Rhodes Scholar. A Former Minister for the Environment for National. Simon Upton said we should in, an ordinary way, take forestry out of the Emissions Trading Scheme. And I thought, why has it taken so long for someone to say it? We should, in an orderly way, take forestry out of the Emissions Trading Scheme. Forestry for climate change has been a Ponzi scheme. The 1News reporter called it a golden ticket. It's swamped productive land for easy gain. It's caused rampant wilding growth through our wild lands. In essence, it's a very big weed unless you're farming it for wood and paper and even then, that market is turning sour - ask Tokoroa and Kawerau. But has it done anything to reduce emissions? We've had long enough for proof. It has not. It's provided excuses for well-meaning pop bands to travel the world in private jets, planting useless forests in their wake and claiming moral superiority. But the 1News bit then went and missed the point. The headline was that we should plant natives instead of pine. Which he did say, but only if we keep with the nutso forest planting scheme. What Simon proposed was completely removing the ability of carbon polluters to rely on planting trees to meet their climate obligations. He said what New Zealand currently had been mostly a "tree planting scheme" that did little to cut planet-heating gases. And then the zinger quote: "The world actually needs real reductions in gross emissions, not an accounting triumph". If you want to cut your emissions, then cut your emissions. But don't plant a tree.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tokoroa's Kinleith Mill owner has confirmed plans to permanently end paper production. From June the change will be implemented and roughly 230 factory workers will be jobless. South Waikato District Mayor Gary Petley says the impact on the town will be ‘huge.' LISTEN ABOVE. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A representative for the workers at Kinleith pulp and paper Mill in Tokoroa says they're bracing themselves for bad news, as they wait to hear the fate of the mill later this morning. Up to 230 jobs could be cut at at the mill due to extreme financial challenges including high electricity costs. Ian Farrell from E Tu spoke with Corin Dann.

Workers at Kinleith pulp and paper Mill in Tokoroa says they're bracing themselves for bad news, as they wait to hear the fate of the mill later this morning. Our reporter Natalie Akoorie was at the Mill ahead of the meeting, and spoke with Ingrid Hipkiss.

Waikato man is on a mission to rehome a catalogue of cats after becoming too ill to run his rescue. Wayne Proffitt, started rescuing cats about twenty years ago after he noticed them getting injured and killed on state highway one near his Tokoroa business. He built a massive enclosure to house the cats; desexed and looked after the rescues, all paid for out of his own pocket. Wayne's daughter, Jen Agnew spoke to Lisa Owen.

The Regional development minister won't commit to helping save jobs at Tokoroa's Kinleith pulp and paper mill but said he's sent an official in Japan to meet with company's owner and establish the facts. The Mill plans to stop paper processing next year with 230 jobs going. The Kinleith operation is owned Oji Fibre Solutions, which announced in September that it was closing its operation at Auckland, partly due to high power prices. Two other paper mills in the Ruapehu district have also closed down this year. Regional Development Minister Shane Jones was at a meeting to save the Kinleith mill in Tokoroa, he spoke to Lisa Owen.

About 500 people including politicians from across the spectrum attended a community meeting in Tokoroa on Monday night about trying to save the Kinleith paper mill from closure. MP for Taupō Louise Upston spoke to Corin Dann.

Proposed cuts to a tertiary apprenticeship training programme in Rotorua could leave dozens of people high and dry part way through their qualifications. The proposal from Bay of Plenty's Toi Ohomai institute of technology would mean up to 20 job losses according to the Tertiary Education union. The Union claims a number of courses across campuses in Taupo, Tokoroa, Rotorua, Tauranga and Whakatane include timber machining, forest management, social and youth work and rehabilitation studies. It said the cuts could mean the complete closure of the Waipa campus in Rotorua; a dedicated training facility that currently operates a working wood manufacturing plant. Senior tutor in Forestry and Wood manufacturing Kerry Parker spoke to Lisa Owen.

Kinleith Mill in Tokoroa plans to halt paper processing next year and that will mean about 230 job losses. It's owner Oji Fibre solutions said the paper part of the business has been making significant losses for several years and there's no prospect of that improving. Instead, Kinleith will import paper for its packaging operations and will focus on pulp. Workers were told of the looming cuts at a meeting this morning, with a final decision due by January. In September, Oji Fibre Solutions, announced the closure of its Penrose operations, up to 75 workers were affected. In August Winstone Pulp and Paper revealed it was closing its two Ruapehu mills. Joe Gallagher from E tu union spoke to Lisa Owen.

230 workers will lose their jobs if Kinleith Mill owner Oji Fibre Solutions goes ahead with stopping paper production. It would be a huge blow for Tokoroa, where the mill is the largest employers. RNZ visited the Waikato town to talk to workers after the news broke this morning. Felix Walton reports.

There's concern for hundreds of Kiwi workers as one of New Zealand's biggest pulp and paper mills looks to halt production. Tokoroa's Kinleith Mill plans to halt paper processing by June 2025 - with 230 jobs on the line. E tū negotiations specialist Joe Gallagher says these jobs cuts will have a ripple effect that impacts the rest of Tokoroa. "Tokoroa was born out of the fact that a lot of people migrated to the area to work at Kinleith - a lot of people rely on Kinleith. 230 jobs is not insignificant and that's not counting the downstream of people in cafes, doctors, nurses and all those other jobs. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's concern for hundreds of Kiwi workers as one of New Zealand's biggest pulp and paper mills looks to halt production. Tokoroa's Kinleith Mill plans to halt paper processing by June 2025 - with 230 jobs on the line. E tū negotiations specialist Joe Gallagher says these jobs cuts will have a ripple effect that impacts the rest of Tokoroa. "Tokoroa was born out of the fact that a lot of people migrated to the area to work at Kinleith - a lot of people rely on Kinleith. 230 jobs is not insignificant and that's not counting the downstream of people in cafes, doctors, nurses and all those other jobs. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Next week the local council will consider whether to fund the return of the Tokoroa santa parade. After a 35 year run, the Lions Club pulled the pin on the parade in 2023 due to rising costs. Last month, the PM warned councils not to be distracted by nice to haves and to rein in their fantasies. Is there any bigger fantasy than a jolly guy in a red suit that delivers free presents, with the help of his reindeer squad? South Waikato Mayor Gary Petley spoke to Anna Thomas.

I did want to have a look at the state of our primary healthcare – this is something we've looked at before, and I have absolutely no doubt that we will look at again. I do tend to agree with the GP advocacy group, General Practitioners Aotearoa, that the concept of the family doctor is dead. You're not going to get a Dr Finlay's Casebook again any time soon on the telly. You're not going to see a doctor who has not only looked after your primary health for much of your life, but also that of your family's. These are the kinds of doctors that have gone the way of the moa.   Where I would disagree with the GPA is that they said you wouldn't see the sort of queues for GPs that we saw in South Auckland, in Remuera. I would argue it's just as difficult for people in the blue chip suburbs to get in to see a GP as it is in the poorer areas. It's just the people with disposable incomes can have other options.   A briefing given to Dr Shane Reti when he took over as Health Minister warned that New Zealand is at least 485 GPs short across the country. Remember trying to find the GP in Tokoroa? A GP was looking for somebody to take over the practice - all sorts of offers were put out there, nobody was interested. This number's expected to grow to a shortage of between 750 and 1050 doctors in the next ten years. At least a quarter of a million Kiwis aren't enrolled with a practice. Many of them won't take on any new patients. 1,034,000 people said they struggled to access GP services because of cost in 2022/23, double the number of the previous year. And the impact of this of course is pressure on hospitals, emergency departments, specialist consultations and immunisation rates. Waiheke Island's only afterhours medical clinic closed its doors yesterday; 24 practices and clinics in Canterbury, the Southern Region, Hawke's Bay, and mid Central that provide after hours or urgent care experienced closures or reductions in hours in 2023 because there aren't enough GPs.   There is a tiny bit of good news... in March, the Health Minister pointed to work beginning on setting up a third medical school and record numbers of GP registrars as green shoot, but added, “I understand there are other parts of retention and remuneration we need to collaborate on.”   There is so much need everywhere, across every field, but GPs are in crisis. If a crisis can be something that continues for many, many years, because they have been saying for at least the past five years that they are struggling. Pre-Covid they were struggling. GPs were getting older, new doctors weren't training in the field, they were getting stressed and burnt out because they were seeing so many patients with so much need, and yet without them, they are such an important component of the country's overall health plan that you cannot have a healthy country without healthy GPs. Difficulty in accessing GPs results in pressure on EDs and poorer health outcomes once people do finally get treatment.   I've been with the same GP practice for about 25 years. I don't see the same GP; I've had a succession of really lovely, fabulous GPs come and go. The last one I was absolutely fabulous, but she now only works mornings because she's trying to manage herself, and her family, and her practice, and it's all just overwhelming. It was three weeks before I could get in to see a GP. You expect to have to wait. If it's urgent, they do their best. If it's urgent, you try and get into an afterhours clinic, but you have to have the money to pay and there has to be an afterhours clinic open near you.   So like I say, difficulty in accessing GPs no matter where you are in the country, but if you have money, if you have disposable income, you can get a result a lot more easily. Do we try and attract them from overseas? Do we try and attract young people, pay their student loans if they become a GP?  We've seen what happens when you try and attract somebody with money and all the add-ons and the bells and whistles to get to Tokoroa.  If they don't want to, they don't want to. Have the days of the family doctor gone the way of the moa? We just have to adapt to a new way, a new style of doing things.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Anna Mowbray is a farm kid from the Waikato who has grown up to be one of New Zealand's most formidable entrepreneurs and businesspeople. Her and her 2 brothers established Zuru and worked tirelessly to grow it into one of the biggest toy companies in the world. Now she is building another brand from the ground up- Zeil, an app for job hunters.https://zeil.com/ This was an honor. Anna has done a few podcasts before, but they have all been business related. This is her first ever podcast where we got to learn a bit more about the person behind the jaw-dropping success. We covered all the important stuff like why she went to see Taylor Swift in Sydney even though she's not a Swiftie. Her childhood in Tokoroa and CambridgeThe early years of the Zuru in ChinaHow her and All Black Ali Williams got together and his memorable first impression- what she loves and hates about him.How they manage to blend families and run a household with five kids, and not spoil the kids. And so much more! Anna is a total weapon. Not to mention bloody good fun and I really appreciated her time, so I hope you guys enjoy this conversation.*Thanks so much to Generate Kiwi Saver for being the official and exclusive sponsor of this podcast.When it comes to KiwiSaver, most of us just sign up and tick the boxes when we started working and then left it to run its course. But, taking the time to make sure you're in the right fund, and ensuring you're maximizing your account, could really improve your lifestyle in retirement.That's where the award winning Generate crew can help.Generate have a team of KiwiSaver advisers across the country available to meet with you, chat through your options, and help you make sure your KiwiSaver investment is working for you.If you've never got KiwiSaver advice before, request a no obligation chat with one of their advisors. Head to:https://www.generatewealth.co.nz/domA copy of their product disclosure statement is available on their website. The issuer of the scheme is Generate Investment Management Limited and of course past performance does not guarantee future returns Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tune in to this electrifying episode featuring the inspiring Jenna Winter as we unravel the secrets of Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich." Dive into the magic of mindset, the art of visualization, and the transformative power of your thoughts on success. Discover why action trumps procrastination and why diverse voices matter in the world of success literature. Jenna spills her personal secrets on goal-setting, conquering the fear of poverty, and the liberating force of self-love. Don't miss out—join our book club for even juicier discussions!

Tokoroa-born & Grammy-award nominated musician Jordan Rakei joins Hunter to break down 'The Loop', their new album. ~ Thanks to NZ On Air Music ~  

Tokoroa-born & Grammy-award nominated musician Jordan Rakei joins Hunter to break down 'The Loop', their new album. ~ Thanks to NZ On Air Music ~  

Embark on a journey of resilience and enchantment in this episode of "How to Be Happier for Entrepreneurs," titled "How to Find Magic in Life's Challenges." Our guest, Kelz Morris-Dale, shares her heartfelt story of transformation, from her roots in New Zealand to her life in Reno, through her battles with anxiety, depression, and personal loss. In this episode, Kelz opens up about her experiences with miscarriage, the trials of divorce, and the poignant lessons learned from the departure of loved ones. Her narrative is a powerful testament to finding strength in vulnerability and magic in life's toughest moments. As a Reiki Master Teacher and a passionate advocate for mental health, Kelz intertwines her healing journey with her role as a mother and her mission to inspire others. This conversation is more than just a story; it's an exploration into the depths of human resilience, offering insights and inspiration for anyone facing their own challenges, be it in personal growth or entrepreneurial endeavors. Join us in discovering how to transform life's obstacles into opportunities for growth and joy.   Key takeaways to listen for: Kelz's early experiences with anxiety and depression The power of finding identity and voice through personal challenges  How to overcome negative self-talk and realize inherent worthiness An upcoming book you should definitely look forward to A transformative journey into Reiki and its healing potential    Resource: Drop your email to get your hands on the FREE Joy Regenerator! Tap into its magic to keep tabs on and handle those challenging emotions and bounce back to feeling fantastic. Check it out here: https://www.bradchandler.com/joy.   About Kelz Morris-Dale Kelz Morris-Dale is a contributing author at AMA Publishing & Business Consulting, a Digital Marketing expert, and a Reiki Master Teacher with roots deeply embedded in Tokoroa, New Zealand. Despite her global travels from England to the Reno/Tahoe area, where she's lived for the past 11 years, her enduring Kiwi accent proudly reflects her heritage. Her career has spanned various roles—from travel agent and Super Yacht stewardess to recruitment and HR, highlighting her diverse skill set developed across continents.  In 2016, Kelz ventured into a holistic path, becoming a Level III Master Teacher of Reiki, dedicated to teaching and providing Reiki sessions in Reno and globally. She has found profound fulfillment in guiding her daughters and other women in Reiki, contributing to their empowerment. Today, Kelz is poised to release a new book, "Focus on the Magic," and is passionate about assisting women in flourishing within the online business landscape, embodying a spirit of collaboration and magic.   Connect with Kelz Facebook: Soul Hug Reiki | Kelz Morris-Dale  LinkedIn: Kelz Morris-Dale   Connect With Us Schedule a call and find your level of happiness by taking your self-love quiz at www.BradChandler.com/contact.   Join How to be Happier - For Entrepreneurs | Private Facebook Group https://mc.bradchandler.com/grouppc_bradc.   Follow Brad on Social Media! Facebook Page: Brad Chandler Coaching Instagram: @bradchandlercoaching Twitter: @lbchandler1 TikTok: bradchandler6 YouTube Channel: Brad Chandler

We find Rabobank's Sydney-based senior market strategist in Tokoroa, where's he on a speaking tour commenting about the outlook for the New Zealand economy and where our interest rates are going.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dave Letele is perhaps best known as a former professional boxer 'Brown Buttabean', but his story is so much larger than that.   It's been filled with highs and lows, from early sporting success to the failure of his supermarket business in Australia where he lost everything, including his family, and returned to New Zealand with only the clothes on his back, weighing in at over 200 kgs.  He turned to prize fighting to earn money and get fit, lost over 100kgs and shared his journey on social media. The public response to his efforts built up the movement that became Buttabean Motivation or BBM.  For the last decade, he's worked tirelessly to create opportunities for people. He has set up free gyms in West and South Auckland, and Tokoroa, a community kitchen, a social supermarket in Tokoroa, and a Foodshare which regularly feeds thousands of people.   In this episode we cover it all, in great detail – and it's a blockbuster. He's a man making a huge difference in Kiwi communities and we're so thrilled to share his story.  We're also thrilled to announce Dave has joined us at B2B Speakers, our business that brings our guests to your events. If you'd like to hire Dave , or any of our other epic guests, at your next conference or function, get in touch by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz  While you're there sign up to our new weekly newsletter with all the behind the scenes B2B details.  Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from.  This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

So we had the National Māori Action Day protest today. The protests took place across the North Island this morning and they were big, impressively so. There were an estimated 300 cars at the Auckland protest, there were about 50 on the Southern Motorway- which created a 3km backlog- and there were over 100 people at each of the Hamilton, Whakatane, Rotorua, Tokoroa, Taupo and Palmerston North gatherings. That is impressive, those numbers. Because from what I can see, those people were activated by the Māori Party in about 24 hours. If I'm not mistaken, they put up their social media posts yesterday, it got into the news yesterday- and all of those hundreds of people turned up to protest today at 7am. Regardless of whether you agree with the Māori Party and what they advocate for or not, it is pretty impressive that they managed to get that many people together in such a short space of time. That tells you two things, I reckon. One is that there's a lot of emotion out there about what the Government is planning to do in the race relations area. Those protests, when you think about it, were actually about nothing- but also about everything. There wasn't just one thing that those people got out to protest about. Nothing has actually happened. If you listen to the number of things people were protesting over, it was a smorgasbord of reasons why they were out there. The promise of the Government doing anything in the race relations area got those people emotional enough to go out. Secondly, if the Māori Party can activate that many people when nothing has happened in only 24 hours, imagine what they can do when something actually does happen. For example, when ACT's Treaty principles bill goes to Parliament. That bill has the potential to trigger a referendum- if it actually gets passed through Parliament. There's no evidence that suggests this will happen, but imagine how big the protests could be based on what we saw today. I know that not everybody takes the Māori Party seriously, because they're all about the spectacle. A lot of the stunts that they pull are clearly meaningless and make themselves look foolish to a lot of people. But do not underestimate them. Because they are dominating the conversation on the first day of Parliament. We aren't talking about the new Government sitting in Parliament for the first time, we're talking about the Māori Party today. And I suspect this will be the first of many days where they will dominate over the next three years. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, we explore the top 10 investment hotspots in New Zealand outside the main centres. We discuss the potential for capital growth in locations such as Kaiapoi, Rangiora, and Ashburton. We also delve into why the South Island, specifically places like Blenheim and Nelson. While making our assessment, we consider factors like affordability, rental yields, average incomes, population growth, and desirability. Lastly, we cover areas with high rental yield like Tokoroa, Levin, Whanganui, and Gisborne and reveal why Queenstown-Lakes has made it to our top 10 list. Main Topics Discussed: Top investment locations Rangiora property market Kaiapoi property market Ashburton property market Levin property market Whanganui property market Gisborne property market Tokoroa property market Queenstown property market Nelson property market Blenheim property market We also mention you can play around with this data on our website. And we also mention our upcoming webinar about ⁠How to Succeed as a Property Investor With No Experience + Real Life Case Study⁠. It's on Tuesday August 8th at 7pm, click the link to register.

Fresh off Scotland winning another game vs England Rugby, I caught up with Sean who was back at the team hotel. Class win for them, and great to chat about all things Scotland, Lions, & the Baa Baa's. On the club stage he has won it all with Saracens, London Irish, Glasgow and in NZ with Canterbury and the Crusaders. There isn't much he hasn't done in rugby, and who knew so many famous players came from Tokoroa?! Thanks always FourFive CBD and Tiny Rebel Brewery

Ice was born the the town of Tokoroa in New Zealand & moved over to Australia to start his career as an NRL player, playing for the Warriors, Panthers & Sea Eagles before retiring after many injuries and deciding to turn to business.After retiring, he founded YKTR with fellow NRL players & best mates Corey Norman & James Segeyaro and over the last few years has been documenting the entire process, building a cult following in the process.He has now gone on to found the sports media company YKTR Sports that has started to change the game for sports media here in Australia by creating content with the players, past & present to give you a unique look into the life of an athlete and bridge the gap between the player and the media company.There was so many lessons and so much value in this episode & Ice continues to deliver these lessons every day through his social media channels.In this episode:How growing up with his Dad as his footy coach was a factor in being able to play in the NRL and how it shaped him as a young boyThe countless injuries that occurred in his career and how the affected him physically and mentallyGetting hooked on reading and self development and how that lead him to starting YKTRThe importance of growth mindset and how to never stop growingThe founding story of YKTR and YKTR Sports and what it took in the early days to get them off the groundWhat things they are changing at YKTR over the next few years to continue to grow and scale the brandNavigating working with your mates and how to communicate betterHow to optimise for happiness and why you should do itThe power of creating content and what people can do to leverage content for their personal brand and their business---Follow Ice here

Jenny Shattock is the Mayor for South Waikato - a region that encompasses Tokoroa, Putaruru, Tirau and Arapuni.  All towns are achieving remarkable growth - but they remain as the fifth most deprived community in New Zealand.  Jenny wants South Waikato to thrive, so that's why she, alongside 35 others from Council, the community and business groups are headed to Parliament to show the Beehive what they've got. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Twenty years ago, he thought human-induced climate change was a load of rubbish. Now, George Moss' dairy farms are leading the way in counting - and cutting - greenhouse gas emissions.

  Country Life joins the queue to get free food at Nourished for Nil, a food rescue charity in Hawkes Bay and heads to a forestry block near Tokoroa for a discussion on forestry and farming. And we farewell Carol Stiles after nearly quarter of a century reporting from the heartland of rural New Zealand.

In a forest block near Tokoroa a 60-year-old tree is felled and turned into a cubic metre of wood. It will end up at the Mystery Creek Fieldays at the end of the year to give a visual representation of carbon sequestration and there's a discussion about farming and forestry.

Retired electrical engineer Bruce Simpson has two YouTube channels with more than 440,000 subscribers. His videos featuring remote controlled aircraft and drones filmed at the Tokoroa airfield have a huge following. The 69 year old has two channels, xjet and RCModelReviews which have attracted 140 million views. This video below, alone has almost 1.8 million views.

A $58 million deal signed between the Crown and an iwi housing provider today is promising to make the dream of home ownership more achievable for Māori. It plans to deliver a minimum of 170 affordable rental homes and more than 30 progressive-ownership properties in Taranaki, Tokoroa, Blenheim, Thames and Tāmaki Makaurau. Our Taranaki Whanganui reporter Robin Martin has the story.

Tokoroa has won an unusual but impressive title at the Keep NZ Beautiful Awards - best loos!

Alberico è un pioniere della comunità italiana, infatti è in Nuova Zelanda dal 1969. Nato a Treviso, la sua famiglia dopo la guerra aveva difficoltà economiche e lui iniziò a lavorare da ragazzo. Al mattino frequentava le scuole medie, al pomeriggio faceva apprendistato in una falegnameria e durante il fine-settimana lavorava nel ristorante di uno zio, cucina semplice per camionisti dove ha imparato il mestiere. Questa esperienza tornò utilissima per l'opportunità di emigrare, ingaggiato come aiuto cuoco dall'azienda Codelfa che aveva grossi cantieri di ingegneria civile in Nuova Zelanda. Codelfa stava realizzando tunnels e dighe per il progetto idroelettrico del Tongariro con lavori che durarono vent'anni e impiegarono più di 400 italiani. Codelfa provvedeva a vitto e alloggio e tutte le provviste arrivavano dall'Italia in nave, dato che non era possibile trovare in NZ la quantità di pasta, olio e vino necessari. Al termine del contratto parecchi italiani decisero di rimanere a vivere in NZ, introducendo cambiamenti duraturi alle abitudini culinarie dei neozelandesi. Tra questi spicca Alberico, che nel 1984 aprì l'omonimo ristorante a Tokoroa, uno dei primi ristoranti italiani nel Waikato. Ci dice che l'impegno iniziale fu di educare alla cucina italiana e ai sapori diversi, anche mandando assaggi gratis ai tavoli per invogliare i clienti a provare. Ma col tempo Alberico Ristorante Italiano è diventato un'istituzione e con 37 anni di attività è uno dei ristoranti più longevi di tutto il paese. Ringraziamo lo sponsor di questo episodio, la Società Dante Alighieri di Auckland  www.dante.org.nz Ondazzurra è in diretta ogni domenica alle 11.20 su 104.6 FM  

In this episode, we discuss the process that the Tenancy Tribunal goes through when seeking to evict a property investor's tenants. We go through a case study from a property investor in Tokoroa, along with what happened with her rental property. Want to learn more about property investment? Subscribe to the Opes Partners YouTube channel. Every Wednesday we release a brand new video to help you become a more successful property investor.

South Waikato is kicking its Covid-19 response up a gear with the revelation a person who later tested positive for the virus spent the night in Tokoroa.  Two new cases were also reported yesterday in nearby Ōtorohanga. The daily case numbers remain in the single digits and the region is trying to keep it that way. Emma Hatton reports.   

South Waikato is kicking its Covid-19 response up a gear with the revelation a person who later tested positive for the virus spent the night in Tokoroa.  Two new cases were also reported yesterday in nearby Ōtorohanga. The daily case numbers remain in the single digits and the region is trying to keep it that way. Emma Hatton reports.   

This episode is brought to you by Micky Day. Micky Day is a hair product brand designed, tested and made in New Zealand. They have two different products, the Habana Clay or Pink Bay Pomade both $45, or you can get a gift pack containing both for $80. I've been using for over a year and have't used half of it, it's the best hair product I've ever used. The perfect gift for your son, husband or friend in time for Christmas.Go and check it out at mickyday.comHard work is part of Ryan Coxon's DNA, in this episode he shares his journey of growing up in Tokoroa to becoming a Tasman Mako, Crusader, Chief and all round good bugger. Coxey's journey has been an emotional roller coaster of emotions with plenty highs, and plenty lows to compliment them. We dive deep into his Mental Health as he went into borderline depression throughout his Rugby journey.Coxey loves a yarn and it's no surprise he opened up the way he did - he's set a president for all to come and I'm extremely proud of him. Thanks brother - Tap tap!

Ko Jordan Rakei te kaiwaiata, i whānau ia ki Tokoroa, kei Rānana ia e noho ana. Born in Tokoroa, raised in Australia and now based in London, Jordan Rakei has released his fourth studio album, 'What We Call Life', out now via Ninja Tune. Jordan shares the stories and inspirations behind several tracks, including his love for his wife, Kūki 'Āirani (Cook Island) heritage, and stepping outside of his comfort zone.  Tracklist:  Unguarded Clouds Runaway Send My Love The Flood Thanks to NZ On Air Music!

Boomfa....Wer ist zurück? Vorpass mit Folge 115! Und wer ist noch zurück? Old mate Quade ist wieder da, verschmäht von Brad Thorn, verstossen nach Melbourne, zurückgelassen von Cheika, aufgenommen von Uso SBW und (fast) vergessen in der zweiten japanischen Liga. James O'Conner's Verletzung und Noah Lolesio's relativ durchschnittliche Leistungen gegen die All Blacks haben das Unmögliche wahr gemacht. Der Junge aus Tokoroa, Neuseeland, dem jüngst zum wiederholten Male die australische Staatsbürgerschaft verwehrt wurde, stand in der Start XV am Sonntag gegen den amtierenden Weltmeister Südafrika. Mit einem Straftritt in der Nachspielzeit verhalf er den Wallabies zum Sieg. Im Gegensatz dazu, hatten die Argentinier nicht den besten Tag gegen die All Blacks erwischt. Aber Donal und Georg sind glücklich, dass neben den Test Matches auch die Top14 angefangen hat und bald wieder auch in England Club Rugby gespielt wird. Vielm Spaß!

Boomfa....Wer ist zurück? Vorpass mit Folge 115! Und wer ist noch zurück? Old mate Quade ist wieder da, verschmäht von Brad Thorn, verstossen nach Melbourne, zurückgelassen von Cheika, aufgenommen von Uso SBW und (fast) vergessen in der zweiten japanischen Liga. James O'Conner's Verletzung und Noah Lolesio's relativ durchschnittliche Leistungen gegen die All Blacks haben das Unmögliche wahr gemacht. Der Junge aus Tokoroa, Neuseeland, dem jüngst zum wiederholten Male die australische Staatsbürgerschaft verwehrt wurde, stand in der Start XV am Sonntag gegen den amtierenden Weltmeister Südafrika. Mit einem Straftritt in der Nachspielzeit verhalf er den Wallabies zum Sieg. Im Gegensatz dazu, hatten die Argentinier nicht den besten Tag gegen die All Blacks erwischt. Aber Donal und Georg sind glücklich, dass neben den Test Matches auch die Top14 angefangen hat und bald wieder auch in England Club Rugby gespielt wird. Vielm Spaß!

People in South Waikato say the tight nature of their community got them through lockdown. The district gratefully went into Alert Level 2 this week along with most of the country. Tokoroa became a place of interest when a person with the Delta virus, stopped off to buy petrol in the town while travelling from Auckland to Wellington. RNZ reporter Andrew McRae paid a visit.

Vote for Stockwhips & Lattes for the 2021 NZ Podcast Awards Listeners Choice!  Originally from Southland, this week's guest Ryan O'Connor was surrounded by farming growing up and developed an appreciation for the rural industry.  However, he is no longer in the mighty south and isn't a farmer as such....yet! Ryan is instead residing in Tokoroa and making a crust as an optometrist, so where did it all go wrong!?  Ryan also developed a passion for the deer industry, helicopters and all things hunting, and like us, he loves sharing great yarns which he does through his own podcast The Stag Roar.  Instagram: @thestagroar See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Big money investors and urbanites are moving into small town New Zealand, snapping up properties and driving rentals to exorbitant prices. The Salvation Army's State of Our Communities Report, which explores life in the towns of Invercargill, Carterton and Tokoroa, lays bare the economic and mental hardship locals are facing. In some regions, rental properties have become so expensive, it's cheaper to pay a mortgage than to rent. Salvation Army social policy analyst Ronji Tanielu spoke to Corin Dann.

The chair of the Pacific Islands Forum opens leaders summit with an apology to Micronesian leaders most of whom boycotted the meeting; Fiji democracy under strain during twin crises, locals question silence from regional leaders; Samoa's new prime minister says her cancelling of a major port project that was to be funded by China will not hinder bilateral relations; Pacific countries welcome easier access to New Zealand's Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme;France quashes a Chinese-funded project to build the Pacific's largest fish farm; A new book looks at the migration journey and lives of twelve Cook Islands women in Tokoroa

The lives of twelve Cook Islands women who left their islands to make a life in New Zealand tell their stories in a new book which was launched in their new hometown Tokoroa on Tuesday.

As Fiji struggles with an unprecedented health and economic crisis, there are warnings about a growing climate of fear; The lifting of quarantine restrictions for seasonal workers entering New Zealand from Samoa, Tonga and Vanuatu has been well received in the three countries; Twelve Cook Islands women who partook in a creative writing workshop have produced a book, which was launched in Tokoroa yesterday; Pacific Island countries may need to renegotiate fishing rights arrangements due to climate change induced tuna migration.

You've heard it before: go hard, go long. But do we need to go hard all the time? Many people think that harder is better. However, overtraining and overexertion can reduce your gains and also be detrimental to your long-term health. Let go of this mindset and take on a healthier view of your body. Legendary long-distance running athlete Lorraine Moller joins us in this episode to talk about how training and racing should not be about winning at the expense of your own body. It's all about your personal journey of learning more about yourself and growing from it. With the Lydiard approach, Lorraine shares how her career was mostly injury-free. Her body's performance is stellar, proving the merits of her training! 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Harness the power of NAD and NMN for anti-aging and longevity with NMN Bio.  On the Wings of Mercury by Lorraine Moller Listen to other Pushing the Limits episodes:  Episode 27 - Gary Moller - Functional Nutrition Consultant, Elite Age-Level Mountain Biker   Episode 189 - Understanding Autophagy and Increasing Your Longevity with Dr Elena Seranova Episode 183 - Sirtuins and NAD Supplements for Longevity with Dr Elena Seranova Episode 194 - Inside the Mind of New Zealand Olympic Runner Rod Dixon   Connect with Lorraine: Lydiard Foundation | Email   Episode Highlights [05:19] Lorraine's Background Lorraine grew up naturally active and part of nature. She was engaged in the community and local athletics.  At some point, Lorraine became more interested in her school running events and just kept going.  During the 60s and 70s, being a professional athlete wasn't a career choice. It was commonly discouraged and seen as for men.  When Lorraine's talent was discovered, she was brought to a neighbouring town to train. She competed against women a lot older than her. By 16, Lorraine was representing New Zealand. Listen to the full episode to learn about Lorraine's running journey!   [14:37] The Lydiard Approach to Training  The Lydiard approach to training is primarily based on endurance training.  Building your aerobic capacity is the core of the Lydiard approach.  In a way, Lydiard is the father of periodisation. He found what worked and incorporated it into training.  Lorraine shares that you need to understand the principles first then apply your own perspective in training.  [19:52] What's the Overall Picture? Some people get lost when looking at the details. You need to know the overall picture first.  When you don't understand the overall picture, you may overshoot the mark and get burnt out.  We have a culture that thinks more is better.  But training can give you more than the capacity to win.  It's really about the inner journey taking place and what you're learning along the way.  [24:25] Take It as a Personal Journey As you're growing, you are influenced by external factors like other people's expectations.  But you'll also reach a point where you start dismantling these expectations to uncover your true self.  Running was a choice Lorraine made for herself. Through this, she developed a deep connection with her father.  When Lorraine didn't do that well, she kept things in perspective.  She always came back to being in love with the journey of the race.  [28:51] From Track Athletics to Long-Distance Running In Lorraine's experience, long-distance running doesn't make you slower.  You'll need to do the work to run faster, but long-distance running lets you sustain your fastest possible pace.  The body responds to whatever stimuli it receives, which is why a holistic approach is vital for achieving the best results.  The Lydiard training, for example, has different phases for training that consider more than just your endurance.  Don't neglect the foundational elements of mobility, coordination, and strength. [39:51] Let Your Body Adapt  The Lydiard training first started with helping people with cardiac problems fit enough to finish a marathon.  The approach is considerably different from the ones professional athletes consider. But, the Lydiard training is safer long-term.  People can adapt to different situations. You can direct your body into what you want to be.  Pay attention to your body, especially when it gives danger signals. Learn to back off and give yourself recovery time.  Burnout and overtraining usually come from a lack of confidence and trust in your own body.  [46:46] What Keeps Us from Peak Performance Hard work is redundant. Things don't have to be hard — just do the work! Lorraine feels a state of flow and happiness in races. The flow state is peak performance manifesting as coordination of body, heart, mind, and spirit.  People often don't reach this state of flow because of tension and excess energy.  If you don't give yourself time to rest when your body needs it, it will become detrimental to your health over time.  You need to identify the fine line between putting your body under strain to get stronger versus pushing it until you break. [56:22] Don't Let Age Stop You People need challenges and goals no matter their age.  Invite new experiences and learnings into your life.  Don't let age stop you from living your best life.  As we get older, we also accumulate more wisdom.  Society needs to acknowledge the value of elders more from that perspective.  [1:08:11] The Strength and Beauty of Our Bodies   You don't need to be perfect; you just need to inch your way forward on your own time.  There is a way back even if you've beaten your body with overtraining.  Your body is strong enough to regenerate itself.    7 Powerful Quotes from this Episode ‘What I did with the Lydiard system was look at what were the principles, not looking at the hard and fast rules. Because as soon as you start looking at rules you have limited yourself, and it doesn't work that way. It's an experiment of one. Your journey as an athlete is completely unique.' ‘I think the journey of the athlete is a wonderful way to get to know yourself and to be able to tap that in the knowledge and to learn.' ‘That's the beauty I think of the Lydiard training is that It is holistic. It puts all the energy systems and every type of training response in its rightful place. So that you can be at your peak on the day that it counts.' ‘And that's why you go on principles. So you look at what you're trying to achieve, and then how best to achieve it based on the level of that person.' ‘You want a cooperative relationship with your own body and it will give you the information that it has and which is better than if you're trying to perform to these external measures.' ‘We approach a lot of the things that we wish to do, or the things we wish to create in our lives from a state of fear… And then we can't get into this natural flow. ' ‘I think that as we get older, our world should be getting bigger, not smaller. You know, and, and I do think that a lot of what we attribute to old age is just bad habit.'    About Lorraine  Lorraine Moller is the only woman to have run all of the 20th century Olympic marathons for women. She is a 4-time Olympian, Olympic bronze medalist, world track and field finalist, multiple Commonwealth Games track medalist, and winner of 16 major international marathons, including the Boston Marathon.  Lorraine's career started as an exceptional 14-year-old middle-distance runner, coached by John Davies. This continued into a 28-year stellar career as an undefeated master runner. Her wide range of accomplishments earned her title as ‘New Zealand's greatest women's distance runner'. Lorraine credits her mostly injury-free career and high-performance longevity to the Lydiard training approach combined with her unique ‘inside-out process' philosophy towards competition.  Since retiring in 1996, Lorraine has helped establish charity running events in Cambodia, Mongolia and East Timor, served as vice-president of Hearts of Gold and NGO in Japan and co-founded the Lydiard Foundation, which educates coaches and athletes on endurance training. Lorraine also wrote her autobiography, On the Wings of Mercury, which became #2 on the New Zealand Best Seller List.  “Sports is a powerful spiritual path. When one seeks their most excellent self, they invite the noblest of human qualities into their lives.” Interested in Lorraine's work? Check out the Lydiard Foundation.    Reach out to Lorraine through lorraine@lydiardfoundation.org.   Enjoyed This Podcast? If you did, be sure to subscribe and share it with your friends! Post a review and share it! If you enjoyed tuning in, then leave us a review. You can also share this with your family and friends so they can learn why it's vital to listen to their bodies. Have any questions? You can contact me through email (support@lisatamati.com) or find me on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube. For more episode updates, visit my website. You may also tune in on Apple Podcasts. To pushing the limits, Lisa   Full Transcript Of The Podcast Welcome to Pushing The Limits, the show that helps you reach your full potential with your host Lisa Tamati, brought to you by www.lisatamati.com. Lisa Tamati: Hello everyone and welcome back to Pushing The Limits this week. Today, I have another athlete to guest, for a change. It's not a doctor or scientist, it's an athlete. This is an incredible athlete. One of my role models from childhood, Lorraine Moller. Lorraine, if you don't know her, she's an absolute legend. She's a four-time Olympian. She won the Boston Marathon, that's a serious marathon, that one. She has won the Osaka marathon four times. She was in the first four marathons for women in the Olympics, which is an incredible thing. She also was a middle distance runner before doing marathon.  She's also the sister of my good friend, Gary Moller, who I've had on the show previously. Lorraine, she has her insights on what it is to be an elite athlete. Lorraine is still training athletes today as part of the Lydiard Foundation. After Lydiard she came through that school, of Arthur Lydiard's training style. It was really interesting to talk to her and sort of go head to head on ideas around coaching. She is available there for help if anyone wants to find out more.  Yeah, really interesting conversation with a very, on-to-it lady. I hope you enjoy this conversation. I certainly did. 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I've been on it now for over seven months and my mom's been on it too for that period of time. I've had huge changes. Actually my whole family has, and we've all had different things that it's really helped us with. It's working on a number of levels, so make sure you check that out. Right over to the show now with Lorraine Moller.  Hi, everybody, and welcome back to Pushing The Limits. Today, I have an amazing woman to guest, certainly one of my role models, Lorraine Moller, welcome to the show. Fantastic to have you here with me.  Lorraine Moller: Thank you, Lisa. Fantastic to be here with you. Lisa: I'm excited for this conversation already. Before we got recording, we already dealt with some deep topics so who knows where this conversation is going to go, but I think it will go pretty deep. You are a legend in the world of running. You have so many, four times Olympian you've won the Boston Marathon, you've won the Osaka marathon three times, you're an author, you're still involved with running. Lorraine, can you just give us a little bit of your background for starters? When did you realize that you were this amazing, incredible athlete? What was your childhood like? Should we go back that far?  Lorraine: Usually, not in my childhood, although, you know, we were brought up in a time where we were naturally active and very just a part of nature and engaged in the community and local athletics and swimming and you know, all those things. Walked their feet and just went to the beach on the weekends and got sunburned. All those sorts of things. So it was a very lovely, free, close-to-nature sort of upbringing in my little town of Putāruru, right in the middle of the North Island, and where everybody knew everybody and it was just pretty easy-living, and our needs were pretty simple.  Those were the times when we had the quarter-acre section, with the garden out the back and like okay, go get a cabbage for tea. So you'd go cut one and bring it in. So it was, yeah, I suppose it sounds idyllic, but in certain terms that was. It was just a fabulous basis for growing up healthy. I had my trials as a kid. I was in the hospital a few times, and just that separation, and just the emotional eggs have been taken away from my family for long periods of time. It's very lonely.  I think that was, I think, you know, we have things that happen to us, and they sort of set you up. They set your story up, and then it's like, okay, go see what you make of it. So I had, I think, running for me was a real freedom. Something that just, I don't think it was something that I really decided to do. I just think it's something that took me. Lisa: It happened to you. Lorraine: One of the key events was, when I went to high school, and we graduated from the little kiddies athletics, doing 50 yards, 100 yards, you know, yeah, I met all that was. We graduated to being able to do the full 40 yards. In my first full 40 yard race at the local club, I could beat the girls who beat me in the sprint. It took me a little bit longer, but I've got your number, you know. So I was really excited by that.  So I started to get really keen and show up during the school events, and I won just about everything in the school events.  Lisa: Just naturally talented at the event, sort of.  Lorraine: Yeah, but you know, at that time, and that would be in the 60s, there was, it wasn't like the girl thing to do. It was nothing in your vocabulary. The four-bill athlete or woman-athlete, professional athlete, even, that just didn't exist back then. That was not a career choice,  being an athlete. It was even discouraged, somewhat. It was considered as a man's sport. If you did too much of it, you would become manly and— Lisa: Your uterus might fall out, as Catherine told me once. Lorraine: That's universal, you know. People tell you that all across the world I think, that yeah, that was just a popular meme. You had to wear clean underwear in case you got run over and taken to the hospital, they find out you've got dirty underwear on. Those things sort of just become popular culture, but nobody really thinks about how true they are or whether they really apply. We just accept them.  I accepted that as a girl, we didn't have longer events, that we didn't have official events. The cross country was unofficial, usually. So we would have a men's race. Then they would have a little short bill's race, but, you know, that's just the way that it was, I didn't think I was disadvantaged in any way. You just get on with what's available and go like it, and I loved it. Lisa: How did you develop, because even back in the 60s and 70s, there wasn't any official thing that you could go to. How did you actually get—I mean your later career was phenomenal. How did you actually bridge that? Was it a time change too that in the 70s, things started to open up, and or how did that sort of unfold? Lorraine: People were really kind and the club system was very nurturing. So as soon as they realized I had some talent, they took me in hand. I was taken to a neighboring town of Tokoroa, which was sort of like a big town, and introduced to John Davies, who was the bronze medalist from the 1964 Olympics in Tokyo. They wanted me to have a proper coach. I was introduced into the Lydiard training theory, from about the age of 14, and for races, et cetera. My event was the 80 yards. I really loved it, and so laps of the track.  I also did cross country. But those events I competed in, there were no junior woman. So I was competing against women who were probably 18 years my senior. I did go to my first national championships and the senior women's at the age of 14. Yeah, and I made the final. I came last in the final. We're like a mate. We're pretty darn good. You know?  Lisa: Yeah. You were 14?  Lorraine: Yeah, sort of, like hanging on, I can remember coming around the straight. I had two people behind me, and I could just see them going, ‘I'm not letting this kid beat me.' Yeah, threw me off, but you know. I was going—representing New Zealand from the time I was 16. That provided opportunity, and that was so damn exciting. Just to be going overseas, and wearing the silver uniform, and getting on a plane and going somewhere, and it was just the most amazing time, and I absolutely loved it. I was put into a competition at a time when I was young enough not to have any respect.  Lisa: You had no idea what was coming at you yet.  Lorraine: So I sort of figured I could run with the best of them. Yeah, so that was sort of part of my make-up or my set up. Which really, you know, it just went from there, until finally, I sort of took off on my own and went to the US and just sort of, seeking greener pastures. That makes a big wide world and yeah.  Lisa: Oh, wow. So tell me a little bit, like Arthur Lydiard. What was he like? Tell us a little bit, you know, so I've heard you say on articles or something, there's a bit of a misrepresentation of how he trained. What was his actual philosophy as an athlete that was actually in under him for a while? What was he like, and what sort of training regime did you have, and how did that develop you? Lorraine: Yeah, I think I was really, really fortunate to grow up in New Zealand, and his system was pretty much adopted by the New Zealand running culture, and I think still has—is part of the culture, yeah. It's based on endurance training. So that's the first thing that John Davies did, was give me a training program. He used to write it, handwrite it on a— and send it to me by mail. So I would get a letter with my training program written down. It would be so exciting.  I ran with my dad. So my dad didn't want me going out there by myself, or we ran on the bush a lot. We got lost a lot, but wouldn't have me there by myself. Although I'm sure if I'd navigated, we wouldn't have got lost, but anyway. Yeah, I mean, we just—and we had a great time. It was really fun for me to get to know my dad. I don't think I would have developed that closeness without having that running. It was just fantastic. So we just ended up doing longer and longer runs. It was just building up mileage, just getting some aerobic base, which is really the crux of the Lydiard training, is that you build your aerobic capacity, and that's the main engine. Lisa: Yeah. Because a lot of them, you know, like I had Rod Dixon on last week, on the show. He's also trained under that. Of course, a lot of the great runners that have come out of New Zealand, and there's been many, have trained on that system. Then, you know, was it a real high mileage system? Like, was it—is there anything that you do different now? Because I know, you're still involved with Arthur Lydiard? The groups that you're taking through now, is there any change in the approach that you've had? Because you know, a lot of the listeners out there are runners that are listening to this. So is there anything that you've learned along the way that you do differently now? Lorraine: No, no, the Lydiard system was sound. I mean, the only thing was, as an athlete, I'd come off a season and then I'd go, ‘I'm gonna just train harder than I've ever trained before,' and then I jump in and overdo it and sort of mess it up. That's what we do, we overtrain. So the Lydiard system itself, I think if you just take the way that he put it together, and the, he was the grandfather of periodization, we didn't call it periodization. The exercise physiologist came along a lot later and then just started to put the jargon onto it, and all there is.  Arthur was very practical. So it's just what worked, it was about 60 years in the making. So you will find Lydiard, that he evolved it with just trial and error. Then, as more people started to do research, he started to incorporate other things. But he was really like, just what works, and what he put together worked really well. What I did with the Lydiard system was look at what were the principles, not looking at the hard and fast rules here, because as soon as you start looking at rules, you have limited yourself, and it doesn't work that way. It's an experiment of one, and your journey as an athlete is completely unique. You occupy your own place, and space and time that nobody else can occupy. If you can respect that, and get away from any sort of cookie-cutter staff. Lisa: I love that personalization approach. That's what I'm heavily into now. It's not like we have access to genetic testing and things like that now, where we can actually tailor things to people's genetics even. But back then that wasn't the case. But to make it your own, so here's the framework, and then you make it yours. That fits with you and your style of being, in your style of life, and in everything that fits to you, rather than just forcing yourself into the confines of just, this is black and white. I think that that's pretty insightful, especially back then. Yeah. Lorraine: Yeah. So what I'm teaching now, and I teach courses through the Lydiard Foundation, two coaches, on how to apply the Lydiard training. The big thing, I think, is to look at things and the overall picture because the, you might say the devils in the details, but the details can completely tell, like the devil, the wrong story So it's very easy for people to, and most common, I think, to overshoot the mark. To put in too much. Then if you put in too much energy into the task at hand, you will get the opposite of what you intended.  Lisa: Yeah, overtraining and burnout.  Lorraine: Also we live in this culture where we think more is better. He said also, we pander to outsourcing our information, and so not tapping into this incredible vehicle that we have that can synthesize and put the information together that is specifically tailor-made to you. That is there. It's innate within all of us. We're just not tapping it. I think the journey of the athlete is a wonderful way to get to know yourself and to be able to tap that in the knowledge and to learn.  So the focus, and this happened to me, during my own running, there was, initially you're motivated by the—just winning or getting a faster time and all those kinds of things. Then you think, well, what is it really payback? It's pretty silly, you know, you're all just running around the house and in circles. Somebody goes, ‘Oh, I'm really great, because I finished in front of you.' You get all worked up. Does that really matter, in the big scheme of things?  Well, in certain terms, it doesn't. The exercise is, and I just gave a talk to our advanced classes on the hero's journey. The hero's journey is that the focus is then on the inner journey that's taking place. Yeah, and is a path for us to get to know ourselves. Socrates said, ‘Know thyself.' It's really sound advice, because, I mean, what else are you going to do to see, you know, you go through life, and then suddenly you get to the other end? Lisa: You don't know what the hell it was about. I mean, this is, this is exactly in line with what I like to talk about, which is like, you know, that we, we learn so much when we do these, you know, athletic endeavors, and I don't care whether you're good, or you're really not talented, and you don't have any ability. It's all about yours—your personal journey. That's why any athlete who's just starting out and doing the first kilometer, you know, is on a journey, to get to know their own body, their own mind, what they're capable of, and we find it, you know, and it's, I hate comparing, you know, like, the actual winning of races and stuff is amazing, but how many of us are actually going to have a career like yours, where you're actually at the top of the podium?  For 99% of the people, it's about what they learn along the way, the health benefits that they gather from the training, the strength—mentally. All of these aspects are just even more important, I think, than the, getting the gold medal put around your neck, or the silver or the bronze. It is much more about a personal journey for most people. I mean, you as an elite athlete, at the top of the pyramid, so to speak, did you find that as well? Has it had a bigger implication on your entire life and your life philosophies than just winning? Part of it? Lorraine: Oh, yeah. In the end, though, the inner journey became more important to me than the outer journey. In a way, I think with life, you have your experiences and you're influenced by your parents and your upbringing and your ancestors and all the rest. So we have all these influences that make up who we think we are I think then—and then we go into our older adult life, and we proceed accordingly with this concept of self, which then I think starts to happen. You start to dismantle that concept themselves, and you start gradually stripping it away, so that, hopefully, when you're ready to go out the other end, you have connected with the essence of who you truly are. Not just all these roles and the expectations and put on yourself, you know. Lisa: Was it for you,was there a lot of expectation, you know, like, I had a lot of expectation in my early years from my dad, who I loved dearly, and wanted to impress and wanted to please and so I had a lot of expectation all the way through. So a lot of the things that I did weren't necessarily what I wanted to be doing. They were things that I felt compelled to do, or expected to do. Was that a part of your journey with running? Or was that more, you just had this passion and actual, like Rod just loved running. You know? What was it like for you? Was it a cut and dried thing that this was a passion of yours, or was it more of an expectation that you would—because you were so good?  Lorraine: Yeah. No, it was mine. I mean, it was completely driven by me, instigated and driven by me. My family was really supportive. My dad got on board with it. So my dad got into running because I was a teenager that got into running. He figured he was like the canary in the coal mine. If there was—if I was doing too much or overdoing it, you know, and he did the same as me. Well, then he would clog up before I would. That was very nice of him. He did, you know he actually died while he was out running. That was the way he wanted to exit. So he did. Lisa: Well, yeah, it's never a good thing to go. But if you're going to go, I suppose doing something and being healthy until the last moment is the way that most of us would like to exit this world. Lorraine: My parents were, oh, they were obviously proud. I mean, you get out there, and especially when you're in an Olympics, or Commonwealth Games, or something that's really big for your country, you do feel the expectation of your country and how you do and you know it really matters. It's quite personal. Sometimes when I didn't do that, well, and you get refreshed.  Lisa: That's harsh.  Lorraine: Yeah. Yeah, it is. You just, you know—I don't know, you get over it with pursued— you realize that you have to keep things in perspective. I think one thing I could always come back to and just be in love with the journey of the race and yeah. That it didn't go away.  Lisa: That passion stayed right throughout you. So let's talk now a little bit about the actual—some of the highlights of your career because this is like for most of us, we're never gonna get to do these sorts of things at this level. What was it like to go to the Olympics? What's it like to compete in the first marathons that women were allowed to do in the Olympics? What was that like for you? Lorraine: Well, the first marathons, my foray into marathons was another thing. That was sort of serendipity in a way. It just sort of came to me, and maybe there was a certain, I don't know, maybe openness, the new experience, I think that yeah, that just led me into different sorts of places. But what happened in—when I left school, and I was already a nationally recognized runner as a high school kid, and what to do? I didn't know what to do, so I decided to go to phys ed school because it was the closest thing that I could think of that's for a woman.  Lisa: It is, exactly. That's all we had back then. Lorraine: Yeah, yeah, you just, that's what sporty girls do, become a phys ed teacher. Gary was, my brother, was already at the phys ed school underneath. So it seemed really easy to hit off down to the need. I thought that was really great because it was really a long way from home. Yeah, you know, and I just loved being a student. I just thought that was so fantastic.  So the first day I was there at the phys ed school I got, I was standing on the steps of the phys ed school, and I was sort of looking to my left and looking to my right, and I didn't know where anything was or which way to go for my run. This group of guys came running past. They were a bunch of lunchtime runners, and some of them are very good runners. One of them looked up and saw me standing there in my running shoes and shorts and said, ‘Hey, chick, you gotta come and run with the boys today.'  Okay, there's an invitation I can't refuse. Down the steps, I glommed on to the back of this group, I could barely keep up. But we did this run. The next day, I was there again, and the next day, and so I became the girl that ran with this group of guys.  Lisa: Crazy girl.  Lorraine: Yeah, and they sort of took me under their wing. So I did all the rounds with them. Sunday was like the Needham version of the white tacori run, was the white Eddie's. It's just, just, you run out somewhere over a mountain and down the other side and you've gotten 20 miles, you know. So I started doing those every Sunday with the guys. As a 800-meter runner, you know, I was building this incredible base, and I just got stronger and stronger. Lisa: Did it make you slower doing the long stuff, for the actual short track races? Lorraine: I'm glad you asked. Yeah. No, that's not true, that. Yeah. Endurance running does not make you slow. No, it does not. Though, you do need to do the faster work to bring on your speed. But the endurance will enable you, eventually, to be able to sustain your fastest possible pace. That's the basis of endurance. So nearly all events over two minutes would derive their energy mostly from aerobic means, right? So the greater aerobic capacity you have, the greater capacity you have for any event over two minutes. Lisa: But what about, I've never been fast, that's why we're long. So I don't have a comparison really, of having lost speed because I never had any to begin with. But doing the super long stuff, you know, the ultra marathon distances, I got dreadfully slow when it comes to the shorter distances over time. I always put that down to my muscle, fast twitch fibers mainly tuned into slow twitch fibers.  Now, actually, like, in the last five years, where I stopped doing the ultra marathons, and I've been concentrating more on shorter, sharper, I'm still not fast by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm a heck of a lot faster than I used to be over the short distance. So even in your 50s, you can start to go back the other way. But it's interesting to hear you say that, no, you don't find that. Because that's—yeah, interesting. Lorraine: With some caveats in matters that, if you—your body will respond to what you give it. In terms of training, stimulus response, so what training is, you are giving the body a specific stimulus to get a specific response from the body. It will do that really well. So the thing about the Lydiard pyramid is that you build the endurance, but you don't do that ad infinitum. Right? So then you go on and then you go through the faster phases and you develop the muscles on faster twitch and the different ones, right through to your peak events.  So, we have quite a few ultra runners who come and do our coaching courses. They get in and they get really excited about doing the phases and getting the full development. That's the beauty I think of the Lydiard training, is that it is holistic. It puts all the energy systems and every type of training response in its rightful place, so that you can be at your peak on the day that counts. What I find with a lot of ultra people is that they've just lost their flexibility and range of motion because they haven't practiced it.  Lisa: That's definitely a big part of our training and how we coach—a lot of strength and a lot of mobility, in proprioception, work and coordination and drills and things that traditionally, when I, because when I started back in the dark ages to when we had no idea, and I certainly had no coaching back in the day, I just ran and ran long, because I wasn't very fast, so just run longer than everybody else and I was good at that.  But now I understand and what you know, that whole mobility piece of the puzzle is absolutely crucial, and the drills and the form and the strength training or all the foundational elements, to be able to run the mileage, you know, it's like a pyramid for us, how we how we build it. So yeah, I totally agree, and I think most ultra runners neglect that part. That's where they come unstuck to some degree. You get very slow and stiff. There's reasons for that. But you managed to finish the distance, but the quality sometimes goes down with the length of time you're out there. Lorraine: Also, if you're out there for a heck of a long time, you don't want to spend much time in the air. You don't need a lot of upwards motion, or that long, beautiful stride, et cetera. You develop a bit of a shuffle, it's just being efficient at the distance that you're doing, yes. Just interrupting the program briefly to let you know that we have a new patron program for the podcast. Now, if you enjoy Pushing The Limits, if you get great value out of it, we would love you to come and join the program. We've been doing this now for five and a half years and we need your help to keep it on here. It's been a public service free for everybody, and we want to keep it that way. But to do that we need like minded souls who are on this mission with us to help us out. 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I didn't know what running form was. I just ran. Incredible that you can still achieve great distances and that way, but it's certainly not healthy. It was very high mileage in those early days, and that has its own toll.  Now we try to train people efficiently because most of the people that we training are also, you know, got careers and kids and jobs and stressors. So we find that you can't train them like you would a 20-year-old professional athlete when they're a 45-year-old mum with three children and a full-on career. Then you're going to break them if you have that high mileage model. So it's much more about time efficiency and getting the best results that they can get with the level of stress that they're already under.  So yes, it's just really interesting to compare notes on all this, especially as you've come from the elite level, in a lot of the things that I find with people who are not in that elite group, don't respond the same way that elite runners would, like when you were doing your top level stuff, the amount of mileage and manner of training that you would have been able to cope with is not what your average person can cope with, because you would have been focused on that solely. Lorraine: I think if you look historically at Lydiard training, he started coaching the first joggers group in the early 60s. So the story is that he was invited, after his Olympic successes, to the Tamaki Yacht Club to talk to the businessman there about training, etc. He was asking them about their own levels of fitness. A whole bunch of them said, ‘Well, we can't do any, our doctors told us to take it easy, because we've had cardiac arrest'. And Arthur's like, you know typical, Arthur, you know, ‘That's absolute rubbish. If you guys want to start jogging with me, I will teach you how to run a marathon.'  He had quite a group, of which quite a few of them were cardiac patients, and had this running group. He got them to run a marathon in about nine months. You're talking more than a couch potato? Yeah.  Lisa: Exactly. He approached that differently than he would with his elite athlete, obviously?  Lorraine: He had to, because if they couldn't start out on 100 miles a week and he realized that you can't expect middle-aged men getting run out to do that kind of mileage because they spend so much more time on their feet, that they're actually doing a lot more work than an elite runner, yeah. So then he changed the distance to duration.  Lisa: Yes, that's what we do too mostly, duration, because then that's more of it. Because otherwise if you run your good marathons at incredibly fast times, but the person who is at the other end of the marathon is taking six hours, they're going to be athletes for twice as long or longer. That doesn't equate from an equivalent point of view. That's—yeah, so that's exactly what we do. Yeah. Lorraine: Physiologically, it's about the same based on duration. Not based on distance. If you spend two hours out there, and you're just jogging along, and that's as fast as you can go, you will have about the same effect as somebody who runs at the same effort but is heck of a lot faster. The system is adaptable to all levels of runner. That's why you go on principles. You look at what you're trying to achieve, and then how best to achieve it based on the level of their person, but, you know, the—we're all, physiologically, we all basically work the same.  We all have—we metabolize fats and glycogen and have the same energy systems and they are invoked at the same perceived effort or level of effort and can be developed. We all have this system of adaptation. We all are losing cells and regenerating them all the time. That is basically so, if you're becoming a new person, like they say, maybe 95% of our bodies are replaced every year, just cells dying and new ones coming on. Or in seven years you get a completely new you. So it doesn't really matter, the point is that, can you direct who you are going to be in the view. Yeah, you can. Athletes know that. Lisa: Yeah. That's what our reputation is all about and why we do it, that's why we train so that we get that reputation. In heavier like—what do you do with people, because we get a lot of athletes who are just head through the wall, type A personalities who want to go harder than what their bodies, and I'm putting myself in this category, to harder than what their bodies can actually cope with, they're burning themselves out, breaking themselves and not actually reaping the reward that they should be for the amount of effort that's going in to their training. How do you try to get them to back off a bit? Lorraine: Yeah. Yeah. So, one of the key things that I teach is that we start right from the beginning, learning to pay attention to our bodies, and getting this rapport with ourselves and learning that you want to a cooperative relationship with your own body and it will give you the information that that it has, and which is better than if you're trying to perform to these external measures, which, there's so many of them because we can measure every frickin' thing that we do, and post it some way of where other people can look at, and they couldn't care less, because they're too busy putting their's up and wanting other people to pay attention to it.  So this constant pandering to make ourselves into somebody that we think that's something on the outside that's going to approve of us. So people who overdo it have a lack of confidence, and a lack of trust in their own body and their own physiology. Because my goodness, your body does an incredible job to keep us alive, and to keep us going and to perform the tasks that we give to it so we can achieve the dreams that we have. Then that will bust itself, for you.  But we do have sort of certain sort of measures, then that will also put into place when you're going to to kill yourself. But those that are well, I'm not doing this because yeah, our minds are incredible also. But most of them use our minds like a slave driver.  Lisa: Yes. I certainly did.  Lorraine: Yeah. You have to learn the hard way sometimes. But we have, being able to recognize, and to know where those danger signals are, and to be able to catch them and back off. Those, I started out my courses, were talking about the fallacy of hard work. Hard work is not where it said, everybody thinks, ‘Oh, God, you must be a really hard worker.' Well, you know, I can knock a knuckle down, but you know, why put in more energy than the task requires? So hard is redundant. Just do the work. Don't make it hard. Because then now, as soon as you say hard, people start to stress, they tense up, you know, okay, Lisa: It plops your brain and it becomes a negative, that you associate with, pain with your exercise and things and that it creates a negative loop. Lorraine: It's horrible. When I won big races, it was actually you get in the state of flow, and it feels wonderful. Lisa: Wow. So when you're actually at the top of your game, and winning these international events and things, you felt like—so it didn't feel as if you were killing yourself to get across the line on those days.  Lorraine: I always get pretty tired of the marathon.  Lisa: Yeah the in and out it. But you felt like you're prepared for this, but not overprepared for this, not burnt out and sorry about it. You actually enjoyed that, you enjoyed those top races that you really did well in? Did that feel like a flow state? Lorraine: The system that I teach, it's a performance system, right? It's good, so that you get the best you possibly can on the day that counts. So that's getting yourself into a peak performance state from wherever you're at. Right? Everybody can do that. That feels amazing. I'm sure you felt it, that you just get there and everything's clicking right. You've got it.  So it is a coordination of body, heart, mind and spirit. It's just, they all come together and you reach that state of flow. Actually, for most of us, we don't get there because we are working too hard. We have too much tension. That getting into a peak state is actually an act of surrender. Yeah. So, when you hit it a few times, you go, ‘Man, this feels so good. I'm gonna try and figure out how I got there again'. As I said, when I was young, I'd just go on the on the train harder than ever before, and you know, and then it seems to sort of go away from you and then you get injured or something or you don't perform as well, because you're in the syndrome of hard work, you're overcooking it, you've got excess energy. That energy has to go somewhere, and all it does is that just messes things up. So that precision of giving the stimulus that is needed for the effect. The thing is that the effect of it takes place during the recovery period, not when you're actually doing the task. So, you know— Lisa: That's an important point. If you had a bad night's sleep, you're being under the pump all week with work, you've got kids who have slept in, everything's going to cast it, and then you go and smash yourself, because it's on your list today to do a really long, hard run. You're not going to get the adaptation, you'd have been better to go hang on, well, ‘Life, come at me this week, I'm gonna actually take it a little bit easier.' Having that confidence to do that, and back off, because I think a lot of people are like, ‘Yeah, but I have to go harder'. They congratulate themselves when they slave drive themselves, and they push them through the bad event.  While that might make you mentally tougher, and there's some advantages of that approach for a while, it isn't going to get the adaptation that you're going to want, because actually, it's in the recovery, it's in the sleep, it's in the downtime that you're actually going to get that benefit. If you're not able to adapt, and then all that training was for nothing, or worse, it can be even detrimental to your immune system and to your health, your mental health. That's a hard sell, tough-minded athletes who think that they have to enter. I certainly struggled with us, and still do so on occasion, we, but I have to go harder, and I'm not, you know, doing enough, because I'm not getting the results, therefore, you know, a little is good, more must be better. That approach doesn't work. Lorraine: Yeah, look, it's a lack of trust. I think a lot of us are brought up to sort of think in the negative all the time, and to talk about what we don't want to have happen. We approach a lot of the things that we wish to do, or the things we wish to create in our lives from a state of fear. That's a real shame, because that immediately puts us on the backfoot. Then we can't get into this natural flow. Look, the world has set up for us to be creative beings, and for us to have, be able to manifest our dreams and make works that are worthwhile and contribute it, so when we leave this life, we have lived something better, we have used our own talents and things are more enhanced, because of our being here.  I think most people have a very huge drive, I think all human beings do, to be of value in this life in some way. I think, you know, we started out talking about this, that we have these systems in our systems, they're not human, you know, they're just systems that are put in place that eventually become self-serving, and they don't serve us.  So they will perpetuate fear, etc., because it just gets us putting our energy into the system, rather than putting it into ourselves and our own dreams. I think that what we need to realize is that it is set up in our favor. I'll give you just one really good example of that. When we train, and we give the body a training stimulus, so to meet that training task, that run or whatever we do, that workout, you have used this fuels in your body and you've broken apart all these bonds to provide energy to enable you to do the task, and then you stop doing it.  As soon as you stop doing it, the body gets busy. It starts to reconstitute those energy bonds and etc. So all these adaptations are taking place. That brings us back to normal again. But it doesn't just bring us back to normal. It gives us more, it makes us stronger, more storage space, you know, stronger muscle fibers, better oxygenation. It actually adapts itself to better accommodate what we're asking it to do. Yeah. So nature has given you a bonus. I mean, if you can't see that everything is set up in your favor just by that little thing alone, it's like, ‘Wow.' Lisa: Yeah, biology is just incredible. These are hormetic stressors. So when we put our body under strain, we come back stronger. When we put ourselves under too much strain, we actually break it down. So that's the fine line that we have to, for us, for each of us individually, find where those points are. That will shift as we get stronger, and you'll be able to take on more training.  But we have to honor the process, that honor the the hormetic stress, recovery, stress recovery, and then build on that so that we can then, you know, eventually you can be running at the best, if it's a training thing, but this is in every area of life, that we're more stressed, we're more resilient. Resilience, the word. We're more able to take on a load, this is just the beautiful thing of all these hormetic stressors and if we don't push ourselves at all, well then, we're going to definitely, the body is going to go well, this is a piece of cake, I can just keep being where I'm at, and then actually start to decline.  What I'd be really interested in your take with older people. One of my passions in life is to empower older people to not give up on on their lives because society sees your past that, and that you've got a use-by date,  you've passed, you know, all of these sorts of attitudes that are just insidious in our culture that, in the Maori culture, it's a little bit better, where we actually respect their elders, and we value their wisdom, but in general culture, it's pretty bad.  We also have this thing—when I retire, then I'll recover and I'll relax. For me, that's the beginning of a downward spiral. So in the rehabilitation journey that I've been on with my mum for the last five years, you know, I set her tasks every day that she has to achieve. She has goals that we're aiming for. Of course, we have phases of recovery, and so on. But she's always on a mission of some sort or another, and she's 79 years old, and we're going forward. I will treat her like that until there is no hope, you know, to the end of her days, because I believe that humans need challenge.  They don't need comfort. They don't need to be, you know, mollycoddled and stuck on the couch to watch telly all day, because you're older now. No. I'd like to see people having their challenge, whatever their challenge is, and it could be like, mum has offered art classes now and just loving the creative. She's got time to do something different and that's a goal that is helping her brain stay on point. What's your take on the way society sees people when they get older? How do you approach that from your personal standpoint? Lorraine: Well, from my own personal standpoint, they're getting older. Yeah, I'm with you 100%, Lisa. I think we need to continually be adding new stimuli, and you know, they can be stress, you know, stimuli stress, it's all just, you're asking the body to do new things. So then you're just inviting new experience into your life. I think that as we get older, our world should be getting bigger, not smaller. I do think that a lot of what we attribute to old age, it's just bad habit.  Lisa: It's accumulating it for many years and makes it the typical aging things. I mean, we are all going to die at some point, but my goal is to live an extremely long life that is healthy until the end, that's my goal. None of us know what's going to come at us from left field. I've experienced an awful lot, I know that some things can still, but that's the goal. That's the approach that I take. So I'm doing everything in my life and in my family's life, to make that as best as possible.  To have constant challenge and have constant goals that you're aiming for and new things that you're learning. It keeps you in this growth mindset for starters, and it keeps your body not knowing what's coming, so it's still having to adapt and go forward, rather than going backwards. As we get older, we get wiser, well, hopefully we do, most of us do, we've got more experience, we're more able to cope with, you know, all the, the emotional things that we probably weren't able to cope with when we were 20, we've got all these experiences.  It's just fantastic if we can look to our older generations as the one who provide wisdom for the ones that are coming behind, and they're seen as a valuable resource in our society, because and not as being your past that because you're over 50, or you're over 60, or you're over 70, or whatever, you know, this demarcation line is that people have and they put on themselves, you know, partly because society does this. Lorraine: Yeah and it's a horrible thing for you to be made redundant and society in terms of your value to it. That is largely, I think, exacerbated by what runs the show is generally money. So people are not seeing older people as being contributing into. Yet we need to start valuing other things besides that. I think we are at the moment, just with the times and what it's for, the time of shifting, and there's an invitation here to make sure that we reconnect with our humanness, and start to prioritise what things we value as human beings, because we're in danger of losing a lot of them. We look at our older people, and we also look at our children. Now children have a life expectancy less than that of their parents. Lisa: Yes, horrific. Lorraine: It's the wrong direction, and you can't cut off your old people and your young people are not benefiting from the wisdom that is available, and that wisdom is something that you can't put a price on. We need to get back to, away from this sort of outside focus and measuring everything in those sorts of terms, and start to value our human relationships and our depth of experience and our connection to the divine spark which we all have within us. To value that journey and support each other on that journey. We're all in it alone, and we're all in it together. Lisa: That's beautifully put. I think we are in an age of change, and I hope things will gather some more momentum. We've got lots of problems in the world but we've also got lots of opportunities now to change things. In the areas that I'm working in, I'm seeing huge changes taking place within just the last few years and that's encouraging. Then there is lots of negativity, but I like to focus on the positivity.  But I think, yeah, let's start valuing our elder, older population, and they have a lot to bring to the party. What we want to do is help people stay healthier, longer. That requires a bit of a mindset shift. When I take my mom to the gym, she's training her butt off there at 79 years old, and people know where she's come from, like being in a wheelchair for a few years, and not being able to do anything. Now she's doing all this, you know, crazy stuff, well, you know, compared to where she was there. That's a role model. She's a role model for so many older people who now have actually joined the gym, and, you know, we're doing stuff because they go, ‘Well, if Isabel can do it, I can do it.' That's, to me, the greatest, beautiful thing that's come out of that tragic journey that we've been on. It's empowering now, other people to not give up just because they're older. To have that attitude of, ‘I'm going to fight my way back.' Then it's a team event. I'm mum's coach, mentor and driver. She's the one who's willing to put in the hard yards and to do whatever I asked her to do to the best of her ability, and that's a winning combination. I'd like to see more people have that, if they've been on rehabilitation journeys. Even for younger people, that they've got someone in the corner that's willing to help them fight because when you're in a big health battle, you need people fighting with you and alongside you. Lorraine: Yeah. When you're down and you don't have the energy, that's what families are for. That's what families are for. To help you when you need to help and how you can all be putting in and bringing it together. I just think this divorcing ourselves from old people and just giving them a bunch of pills, then putting them in front of the telly, what a waste, what an incredible waste of resources.  Lisa: Yep, and loneliness and despair, and all of those things, and the value of that person's life history is just disappearing, when it could be being impassioned, if they, if we can keep their minds active, and their bodies as strong as possible for as long as possible, they have a great value. It's not like, from a societal standpoint, it's often thought, well, once you retire, you're no longer adding value to society, it's measured in monetary value, and you're costing more in the health systems. Hopefully, you don't live too long. That's just an approach to me that is just horrific. The way that society treats its young, and it's old and it's vulnerable, as is the mark of a civilization, I think that is, you know, is that is what we should be measured by, not how strong— Lorraine: Yeah, and I think the example of your mum, is that, all we have to do is take care of what's in front of us and do the best that we can. That is being an example to other people, it just starts to, so she's going to the gym and other people see her and they go out, and they have a whole different mindset about the possibilities and what happens and, and that's all it takes. Lisa: You like the work that you're doing, that's imparting your knowledge. You could be sitting back on a beach somewhere and just enjoying life. Instead, you're still teaching, you're sharing, you're imparting that valuable knowledge that you have to other people, and that is gold. It's so important. Gary, your lovely brother, who I absolutely adore and admire, thinks he's crazy and awesome at the same time. Still world-leading mountain biker at his age, and he certainly helped me on my journey when I was broken and burnt out and came to him, a few years ago going, ‘But Gary, I'm broken, can you help me?' He put pieces of the puzzle back together again, and helped, gave me actually a role model, because he'd done the same thi

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