Podcasts about extremely online

It may not describe you, but you likely know someone who is extremely online. This has nothing to do with the time spent using social media; it's about their connection to being a trendsetter. Extremely online people are those who immerse themselves in internet culture. They're the ones who are first to share what become hot memes and gifs. They're the authentic influencers of social media. But they aren't necessarily trying to make money from it. These people are often obsessed with topics that no one else cares about. And their days might be numbered... Click Here To Subscribe Apple PodcastsSpotifyAmazon MusicGoogle PodcastsTuneIniHeartRadioPandoraDeezerBlubrryBullhornCastBoxCastrofyyd.deGaanaiVooxListen NotesmyTuner RadioOvercastOwlTailPlayer.fmPocketCastsPodbayPodbeanPodcast AddictPodcast IndexPodcast RepublicPodchaserPodfanPodtailRadio PublicRadio.comReason.fmRSSRadioVurblWe.foYandex jQuery(document).ready(function($) { 'use strict'; $('#podcast-subscribe-button-13292 .podcast-subscribe-button.modal-67e1ce5169450').on("click", function() { $("#secondline-psb-subs-modal.modal-67e1ce5169450.modal.secondline-modal-67e1ce5169450").modal({ fadeDuration: 250, closeText: '', }); return false; }); });

Subscribe, Rate, & Comment on YouTube • Apple Podcasts • SpotifyIf you value this series, please consider becoming a patron here on Substack or with tax-deductible donations at every.org/humansontheloop (you'll get perks either way).About This EpisodeThis week we speak with “strategic futurist and pattern navigator” Adah Parris, a London-based wizard and weirdo with whom I immediately hit it off over our shared interest in “cyborg shamanism” and an emphasis on being good ancestors. Forbes Brasil called her “one of the most important futurists in the world.” It's hard for me to measure the impact she's had on business leaders, tech startups, marketing and communications firms, arts schools, and in the lives of the countless other people.We talk about the relationship between numbers, language, and the ineffable, ever-shifting human spirit. Adah's work points past knowledge and history into the elemental nature of both human and machine, past our differences into the deep similarity worth celebrating and the mystery that we inhabit and embody. Join us for a yarn that is both silly and profound, present and far-reaching, about being uncategorizably creative, open, and curious amidst the wicked problems of our time…Project Links• Read the project pitch & planning doc• Dig into the full episode and essay archives• Join the online commons for Wisdom x Technology on Discord + Bluesky + X• Join the open, listener-moderated Future Fossils Discord Server• Contact me if you have questions (patron rewards, sponsorship, collaboration, etc.)• Browse the HOTL reading list and support local booksellersChapters0:00:00 - Teaser0:00:49 - Intro0:05:24 - Feeling Seen & Heard0:09:54 - Adah's Biography0:17:21 - Poetry & Number0:27:55 - Cyborg Shamanism & The Five Elements0:37:03 - The Foraging Neurotype of “Extremely Online”0:51:07 - Surrendering Agency to Systems0:55:14 - The Incremental Reclamation of Agency1:01:19 - Art after Modernity & Healing from Noise1:13:01 - Beyond Narrative & Into Dance1:17:30 - Thanks & AnnouncementsAdah's LinksWebsite | Instagram | LinkedIn | Medium | Chartwell SpeakersFinding Our Future in Ancestral Wisdom @ TEDxSohoWhat Kind of Ancestor Do You Want To Be? @ Think With GoogleCyborg Shamanism & The Case for Elemental AI @ AtmosMentioned MediaRefactoring “Autonomy” & “Freedom” for The Age of Language Modelsby Michael Garfield223 - Timothy Morton on A New Christian Ecology & Systems Thinking BlasphemyFuture Fossils PodcastAttention deficits linked with proclivity to explore while foragingby David L. Barack et al.New Selves of Neural Media & AI as 'The Poison Path' with K Allado-McDowellHumans On The LoopRaising AI: An Essential Guide to Parenting Our Futureby De KaiTechnoshamanism: A Very Psychedelic Century! at Moogfest 2016by Michael GarfieldProteus (film)Sonic restoration: acoustic stimulation enhances plant growth-promoting fungi activityby James M. Robinson et al.Ada Twist, Scientistby Andrea Beaty & David RobertsOppenheimer (film)Dante's Infernoby Dante AlighieriMentioned People & InstitutionsFord Motor Co.TelefonicaWayraAT&TAugusta Ada Byron LovelaceCharles BabbageMarshall McLuhanDr. Kate StoneErnst HaeckelTada HozumiLewis MumfordJohn Taylor GattoPaul TillichAlan TuringGuest RecommendationsEmalick NijeAnjuli BediCharlie MorleyAmichai Lau-Lavie This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit michaelgarfield.substack.com/subscribe

Lately, the internet has broken the White House. Influencers and tech CEOs now have unprecedented access to the Trump administration. How will the “broligarchy” change our world? Our guest, Taylor Lorenz, covers the influence of influencers on User Mag, her tech and online culture Substack. The former Washington Post reporter literally wrote the book on how the internet took over politics: Extremely Online, The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet. Lorenz weighs in on the big tech transformation of the U.S. government, why banning TikTok is a bad idea, and what it's like to party with the content creators who shaped the U.S. election. Also, Vass and Katrina discuss hostile haberdashery.Subscribe to the Lately newsletter, where the Globe's online culture reporter Samantha Edwards unpacks more of the latest in business and technology.Find the transcript of today's episode here.We'd love to hear from you. Send your comments, questions or ideas to lately@globeandmail.com.

Today we were Extremely Online. The “load in 4K” trend that won't quit on Twitter, Rednote vs. TikTok, a comet update from Dillon, our likelihood of being hit by an asteroid in 2046, the history of pronouncing the word “GIF,” using Grok to make profile photos for all of us, This Weekend in Fun, and more. Enjoy a free one-week trial on Patreon for additional weekly episodes: www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast Watch all of our full episodes on our new YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/circlingback  Shop Washed Merch: www.washedmedia.shop  (0:00) Fun & Easy Banter (13:00) Load in 4K (22:30) Will Randy download Rednote (34:00) Space Bar: Comet Update (45:14) Dillon's Apple Watch is a Fucking Dumbass (57:00) Will Asks Grok To Make Profile Photos (1:07:41) This Weekend in Fun Support This Episode's Sponsors Huel: www.my.huel.com (15% off using STEAM15) Squarespace: www.squarespace.com/steam (STEAM for 10% off your purchase of a website or domain) Tecovas: www.tecovas.com/crclbk (10% off!) PrizePicks: www.prizepicks.com/steam (use code STEAM to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello Sixteenth Minute heads! We'll be back next week with a brand new interview with the guy from the ~*sHe cAmE dOwN iN a bUbBlE bRo*~ video, but this week we are re-airing our episode on the 2015 phenomenon of The Dress. Tickets to Jamie's show 11/29 in LA: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-tiny-man-is-trying-to-kill-me-tickets-1089424250259?aff=oddtdtcreator Donate to the Native Women's Collective: https://www.nativewomenscollective.org/ --- In 2015, the world was gripped by one question: is this dress black and blue, or white and gold? No, no, I refuse to argue with you about it — but the story of The Dress is the dying breath of a pre-algorithm driven social media, the peak of Buzzfeed, and contains some dark truths about the internet. Featuring interviews with Taylor Lorenz (@taylorlorenz), author of Extremely Online and Max Fisher (@maxfisher22), author of The Chaos Machine.  Original Air Date: 5.21.24See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I joined twitter in 2009 and for 15 years - until this very month - it has been my favorite social media platform. The one place where I am only a consumer and not a creator. The place where I met my earliest online friends. The place where I made most of my best online memories following breaking news, political, scandal, and pop culture.And the only other person I know who has been obsessed with twitter for as long as I have been? None other than friend and podcaster Jamie Golden. Jamie and I have shared many obsessions over the years - and I write about her in The Life Council as the Fellow Obsessive friend - but our love of twitter has always been our biggest shared passion. And despite saying numerous times over the years that we'd never leave, we both decided in the last few weeks to depart our formerly favorite space.And thus, a funeral for twitter.In this conversation, Jamie and I talk about our earliest days on twitter, why we loved it so much, our favorite moments, a few of our regrets, and, of course, why we're leaving.You don't have to care about twitter to enjoy this passionate conversation between friends. My hope for this episode is that you'll get a little glimpse into some social media history and that you'll see yourself in a discussion about how being online has changed us.Follow Jamie Golden on IGFollow Jamie Golden on BlueskyListen to Jamie Golden on her podcasts The Popcast with Knox and Jamie and Faith AdjacentFollow Laura Tremaine on BlueSkyFULL SHOW NOTES HEREMENTIONED in this episode:Black Twitter: A People's History (hulu docuseries)Extremely Online by Taylor LorenzSo You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon RonsonJAMIE's past episodes of 10 Things To Tell You:Ep. 14: Skincare and Makeup Favorites with Jamie GoldenEp. 51: Masterminds: How to create and structure a business peer group (with guests Jamie Golden, Bri McKoy, and Kendra Adachi)Ep. 105: Needles, Lasers, and Fillers in Your Face (Jamie Holden RETURNS!)Ep. 164: Are we friends or not? (A Secret Tapes Mastermind Conversation with Jamie Golden, Bri McKoy, and Kendra Adachi)Ep. 192: OBSESSED: Skincare & Makeup Favorites (with Jamie Golden) SUBSCRIBE to 10 Things To Tell You so you never miss an episode!CLICK HERE for episode show notesFOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on InstagramFOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on FacebookJOIN the 10 Things To Tell You Connection GroupSIGN UP for episode emails, links, and show notesJOIN the Secret Stuff PatreonBUY THE BOOK: Share Your Stuff. I'll Go First. by Laura TremaineBUY THE BOOK: The Life Council: 10 Friends Every Woman Needs by Laura Tremaine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I joined twitter in 2009 and for 15 years - until this very month - it has been my favorite social media platform. The one place where I am only a consumer and not a creator. The place where I met my earliest online friends. The place where I made most of my best online memories following breaking news, political, scandal, and pop culture. And the only other person I know who has been obsessed with twitter for as long as I have been? None other than friend and podcaster Jamie Golden. Jamie and I have shared many obsessions over the years - and I write about her in The Life Council as the Fellow Obsessive friend - but our love of twitter has always been our biggest shared passion. And despite saying numerous times over the years that we'd never leave, we both decided in the last few weeks to depart our formerly favorite space. And thus, a funeral for twitter. In this conversation, Jamie and I talk about our earliest days on twitter, why we loved it so much, our favorite moments, a few of our regrets, and, of course, why we're leaving. You don't have to care about twitter to enjoy this passionate conversation between friends. My hope for this episode is that you'll get a little glimpse into some social media history and that you'll see yourself in a discussion about how being online has changed us. Follow Jamie Golden on IG Follow Jamie Golden on Bluesky Listen to Jamie Golden on her podcasts The Popcast with Knox and Jamie and Faith Adjacent Follow Laura Tremaine on BlueSky FULL SHOW NOTES HERE MENTIONED in this episode: Black Twitter: A People's History (hulu docuseries) Extremely Online by Taylor Lorenz So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson JAMIE's past episodes of 10 Things To Tell You: Ep. 14: Skincare and Makeup Favorites with Jamie Golden Ep. 51: Masterminds: How to create and structure a business peer group (with guests Jamie Golden, Bri McKoy, and Kendra Adachi) Ep. 105: Needles, Lasers, and Fillers in Your Face (Jamie Holden RETURNS!) Ep. 164: Are we friends or not? (A Secret Tapes Mastermind Conversation with Jamie Golden, Bri McKoy, and Kendra Adachi) Ep. 192: OBSESSED: Skincare & Makeup Favorites (with Jamie Golden)   SUBSCRIBE to 10 Things To Tell You so you never miss an episode! CLICK HERE for episode show notes FOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on Instagram FOLLOW @10ThingsToTellYou on Facebook JOIN the 10 Things To Tell You Connection Group SIGN UP for episode emails, links, and show notes JOIN the Secret Stuff Patreon BUY THE BOOK: Share Your Stuff. I'll Go First. by Laura Tremaine BUY THE BOOK: The Life Council: 10 Friends Every Woman Needs by Laura Tremaine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Sphere, the 366-foot-tall domed venue in Las Vegas with an eye-catching LED exterior, is getting a sister location A growing number of young folks are getting their investment advice from the same place they shop, date, and fawn over videos of baby hippos: the internet. Celebrating something? Let us know here: https://thepeak.typeform.com/to/MNdYA3TO

Misinformation in the wake of disasters isn't new, but the media environment today—rife with A.I. images, light on moderation, and eager to point fingers—seems more vulnerable to it than ever. Guest: Will Oremus, technology writer for the Washington Post. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Misinformation in the wake of disasters isn't new, but the media environment today—rife with A.I. images, light on moderation, and eager to point fingers—seems more vulnerable to it than ever. Guest: Will Oremus, technology writer for the Washington Post. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Misinformation in the wake of disasters isn't new, but the media environment today—rife with A.I. images, light on moderation, and eager to point fingers—seems more vulnerable to it than ever. Guest: Will Oremus, technology writer for the Washington Post. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Misinformation in the wake of disasters isn't new, but the media environment today—rife with A.I. images, light on moderation, and eager to point fingers—seems more vulnerable to it than ever. Guest: Will Oremus, technology writer for the Washington Post. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the summer of 2012, Laina Morris became an overnight viral star as the Overly Attached Girlfriend, a parody of the rampant Justin Bieber "Beliebers" of the era. The week after, she had to decide if she'd drop out of college or pursue the life of a job that didn't quite exist yet -- a full-time YouTuber. In part 1, Jamie takes a look at Laina's ascent, and how the image of the YouTube star was first conjured from thin air by a bunch of Silicon Valley weirdos, and perfected by YouTubers themselves. Net week, Jamie speaks exclusively with Laina Morris in part two! For more on the history of the social media algorithm, check out "The Chaos Machine" by Max Fisher: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-chaos-machine-the-inside-story-of-how-social-media-rewired-our-minds-and-our-world-max-fisher/18203720 For more on YouTube celebrity, check out "Extremely Online" by Taylor Lorenz: https://bookshop.org/p/books/extremely-online-the-untold-story-of-fame-influence-and-power-on-the-internet-taylor-lorenz/19718842?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrp-3BhDgARIsAEWJ6SwYyF8sigAMNiXmi3fokHCkE2bzkcSOCaQ7nB0cdh3vmpjNcJS4rVAaAhV6EALw_wcB Follow Laina on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/@lainaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I (Jack) talk to Dan Baltic about his book, Nutcrankr. To quote the blurb of Nutcrankr, "NUTCRANKR is a comic examination of fringe ideology, social atomisation, and sexual dysfunction in modern America. Dan Baltic's debut novel is a sardonic look at a certain type of Extremely Online character we're all too familiar with and what happens when their delusions and flights of fancy come into contact with the real world." Yes, I changed the blurb's spelling from American ('atomized': hideous, uncouth) to British ('atomised': elevated, spiritually fulfilling). No, I won't change it back. VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATIONWhere to buy Nutcrankr: https://www.amazon.com/NUTCRANKR-Dan-Baltic/dp/195189779XDan Baltic's Substack: https://danbaltic.substack.com/Dan and Matt's New Write podcast is available on basically every podcast platform! Authors recommended by Dan:Matt PegasCaleb CaudellARX-HanAdem Luz RienspectsBrad KellyKevin Kautzman Delicious TacosJack has published a novel!Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Tower-Jack-BC-ebook/dp/B0CM5P9N9M/ref=monarch_sidesheetThe first nine chapters of Tower are available for free here: jackbc.substack.comOur Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheBookClubfromHellJack's Substack: jackbc.substack.comLevi's website: www.levioutloud.comwww.thebookclubfromhell.comJoin our Discord (the best place to interact with us): discord.gg/ZMtDJ9HscrWatch us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0n7r1ZTpsUw5exoYxb4aKA/featuredX: @bookclubhell666Jack on X: @supersquat1Levi on X: @optimismlevi

Send us a message!Ever had your sleep hijacked by a hyperactive corgi? Tom kicks off this episode by sharing his sleepless ordeal caused by Finley's reaction to surprise fireworks. As we navigate through the humor and exhaustion, Heather and I engage with our lively audience, discussing not only tech gadgets like our new mic stands but also fun plans for upcoming streams, including games like Scattergories and Blank Slate. Our goal? To bring a little laughter and enjoyment, even on the most restless nights.We then shift gears to explore the fascinating journey of social media and technology. Highlighting the Zoom H1 Essential audio recorder, we reminisce about our early YouTube days and celebrate our seven-year anniversary with a nod to the book "Extremely Online." This segment is a nostalgic dive into the platforms that shaped our digital landscape, from Friendster to MySpace, and a candid discussion on the balance between innovation and authenticity in content creation, particularly when it comes to AI-generated voiceovers.Finally, we delve into a spirited debate on the ethics of AI-generated voices in advertising and storytelling. From the subtle differences between human experiences and AI narratives to the practical applications of AI in language dubbing, we ponder the impact of these technologies on viewer engagement and authenticity. We wrap up with a quirky discussion about the authenticity of an eyebrow hair on a camera lens, reflecting on how digital content creators navigate the fine line between genuine connection and strategic manipulation. Join us for this thought-provoking episode filled with laughter, insights, and a few unexpected revelations.Use promo code "TABLE" for 10% off Tom's podcasting courses! Visit https://himynameistom.com/courses to sign up!

Today on AirTalk, the latest on the delays and challenges facing the return of the Boeing Starliner crew. Also on the show, we learn about a new peanut allergy treatment that's been introduced in Australia; we preview the newest episode of LAist's podcast ‘Imperfect Paradise;' we check-in with SoCal school districts ahead of the new school year; California State Senator Lola Smallwood-Cuevas talks about the new self-checkout bill; and more. Latest on the NASA Boeing Starliner delays (00:17) An update on peanut allergy treatments (15:42) Preview: newest episode of ‘Imperfect Paradise' (36:05) Check-in with SoCal school districts (52:01) How we became ‘Extremely Online' (1:18:20) Follow-up on the new self-checkout bill (1:35:47)

Andru Edwards and Jon Prosser welcome Taylor Lorenz, tech reporter at the Washington Post and author of "Extremely Online." They dive into the wild world of Google's AI mishaps, Microsoft's Copilot+PCs, how Apple will step into the AI game at WWDC, and discuss the moral panics surrounding kids and social media. Taylor brings her expertise to debunk common myths about technology's impact on youth, drawing from her extensive research and personal experiences. Microsoft Copilot+PCs & Surface: https://youtu.be/KgvKJZXLJik Taylor Lorenz on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaylorLorenz Andru Edwards on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andru Jon Rettinger on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/jon4lakers Circuit Breaker: My Weekly Tech Newsletter Support the show: http://youtube.com/gearlive/joinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Show Notes:Taylor Lorenz is a technology journalist in Los Angeles, CA and author of the new book ⁠Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet⁠. She has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, the Daily Beast, and many other publications. She is currently a technology columnist for The Washington Post's business section covering online culture and the content creator industry. She was previously a technology reporter for The New York Times business section, The Atlantic, and The Daily Beast. Her writing has appeared in New York magazine, Rolling Stone, Outside magazine, and more. She frequently appears on NBC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and the BBC. Lorenz was named to Fortune's 40 Under 40 list of leaders in Media and Entertainment. Adweek included her in their Young Influentials Who Are Shaping Media, Marketing and Tech listing, stating that Lorenz “contextualizes the internet as we live it.” Town & Country named her to their New Creative Vanguards list of a rising generation of creatives, calling her “The Bob Woodward of the TikTok generation.” In 2023, Lorenz was named tech and media influencer of the year by the World Influencers & Bloggers Association. In this interview, Taylor talks about her new book, Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet - and we discussed: Taylor's goals in writing Extremely OnlineThe most fun part of the book to write (and my favorite parts to read)How she deals with the negativity she receives for her writing and social posts What Taylor thinks will be the biggest trend for online culture 2024Her thoughts on AI and the impact it will have) on internet cultureWhat Taylor thinks it would take to make online culture fun again  Leave a Review: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Me on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@danielhillmedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In 2015, the world was gripped by one question: is this dress black and blue, or white and gold? No, no, I refuse to argue with you about it — but the story of The Dress is the dying breath of a pre-algorithm driven social media, the peak of Buzzfeed, and contains some dark truths about the internet. Featuring interviews with Taylor Lorenz (@taylorlorenz), author of Extremely Online and Max Fisher (@maxfisher22), author of The Chaos Machine. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.louiseperry.co.ukMy guest today is Alex Kaschuta, host of the podcast 'Subversive.' We spoke about the online gender wars, how the internet encourages dysfunctional relationships offline, and how we should choose our children's peer groups in an effort to protect them from these effects. In the extended version of the episode, we also spoke about how our own politics ha…

This week, we are pleased to be joined by Taylor Lorenz. Taylor covers technology and social media for the Washington Post. She is the author of Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence and Power on the Internet, and she hosts a new podcast, Power User. Before our vibe check with Taylor on the TikTok legislation,  how social media shapes the vibes of politics, and all things online - we dive into Trump's “new” statement on his position on abortion, and the RFK Jr. staffer who said the quiet part out loud. Stick around after our chat with Taylor for an IT'S GIVING, our GROUP CHAT, and a good vibe on student debt. Further reading: AXIOS: New effort to "inoculate" U.S. voters against AI misinformationNYT: China's Advancing Efforts to Influence the U.S. Election Raise AlarmsTaylor's column in the Washington Post: Meet the 25-year-old who TikToked his way onto RFK's campaign teamCNBC: 25 million student loan borrowers could see their balances shrink under Biden's new forgiveness planSubscribe to Vibes Only wherever you get your podcasts (probably wherever you're reading this). If you enjoy the show, please consider giving us a rating and review so others can find it. You can WATCH full episodes of Vibes Only on YouTube. Follow COURIER on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, Facebook, and Twitter/X.You can find out more about COURIER at couriernewsroom.com

Welcome to part one of our two part series on Technology, Church and Culture. On today's episode Heather finally has a conversation she has been wanting to have since season 1, and that is on the topic of pornography. According to the Youth Pornography Addiction Center, 93 % of boys and 62% of girls are exposed to internet pornography before the age of 18. To discuss porns impact and what resources may be available to help a user who wants to quit, Heather sits down with John Michael Bout and Jacob Valk who created the documentary Into the Light, which helps people navigate and break free porn addiction. Heather also sits down with investigative reporter on technology and culture, Taylor Lorenz to discuss the 12-page bill, known as the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, aimed to "protect the national security of the United States from the threat posed by foreign adversary controlled applications" like TikTok. Taylor walks us through what we need to know about the Tik Tok ban and adds another tool to our social toolkit, You can order her latest book, Extremely Online here. Guest Bio Jacob Valk holds a degree in Advertising from Mohawk College and a B.A. in Humanities from Brock University. He worked various roles in advertising/film in Toronto, co-produced the documentaries Ordinary Commission and Into The Light, and runs the podcast Chats Under The Sun. He is finishing an M.Div. at SBTS in Louisville, Kentucky, where he lives and works at the ReCenter homeless shelter.  John-Michael Bout holds a B.A. in Classics from Brock University and is working on an M.Div. at SBTS in Louisville, Kentucky. He co-produced Ordinary Commission and Into The Light. He is married to his lovely wife Jessica with their two sons Roman and Andrew.  Host Bio Heather Thompson Day is an associate professor of communication at Andrews University in Berrien Springs, Michigan. She is the author of eight books, including I'll See You Tomorrow and It's Not Your Turn. Reach out to Heather on X, the app formerly known as Twitter at @HeatherTDay and on Instagram @heatherthompsonday. Receive Heather's weekly inspirational email every Friday at 7pm EST; sign up at www.heatherthompsonday.com/links. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taylor Lorenz joins the weekend edition to talk about her new book, Extremely Online, the ever-growing influencer economy, her interview with @LibsofTikTok aka Chaya Raichik  and how we are all affected by the media we create. Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thdspod  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thdspod/  Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit Subscribe or Follow us on Apple Podcasts so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/  Plus! Your engagement matters to us. If you are a fan of the show, be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hustle-daily-show/id1606449047 (and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues).

In today's mini-sode V chats with author and journalist, Taylor Lorenz. They detail Taylor's interview with Chaya Raichik during which she revealed herself as the creator of LibsofTikTok. FULL INTERVIEW Taylor's Book: Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet Topics: How Taylor came to discover LibsofTikTok creator, Chaya Raichik. The severity of Raichik's content and the concern of copy cats. The timeliness of Taylor's book Extremely Online. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

02/17/24: Episode 102 of The Op-Ed Page podcast: Meet Helen Jonsen and her “kaleidoscope career.” Helen Jonsen  and her “Kaleidoscope” career Find her at Helen Jonsen Media: helenjonsen.com Optionality Current member tiers are here: https://optionalitylife.substack.com/subscribe?coupon=60e53fb7 Home page: https://optionality.life Join us for curated connection, content, community, convening, and collaboration!! (Yes, I loves me some alliteration.) Quick takes: Watching: Star Trek binge, moved on from TOS (The Original Series) to Start Trek: The Animated Series, the Star Trek original cast motion pictures, and now have started Star Trek: The Next Generation.  You have to find some on Max, some on Paramount Plus. Reading:  Coming back to Stephen King after decades, particularly Fairy Tale, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, and Hearts in Atlantis. He a great writer and builds amazing world, both supernatural and grounded in reality. Memoirs: Sure, I'll Join Your Cult by Maria Bamford Storyteller by Dave Grohl I'm Wearing Tunics Now by Wendy Aarons. Books about the early social web and how it developed. Extremely Online by Taylor Lorenz

The internet has changed not only how we communicate with each other, but how we understand the world. All technologies reorient how we navigate the world. This one just feels, at times, so disorienting—especially if you are, like the three of us today, extremely online.  That's the title of Washington Post columnist Taylor Lorenz's recent book. Taylor has been covering internet culture since starting in social media for the Daily Mail in 2011, which led to positions as a technology reporter for Business Insider, the Daily Beast, and the NY Times. In her insightful book, she details the history of internet culture, and she joins us today to discuss reporting in an age of conspiracy theories and online trolling, the challenges of covering long Covid in an age of overwhelming health misinformation, and what it's like to be extremely online.  Show Notes Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet Taylor Lorenz on YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Watch Josh's presentation here: https://youtu.be/elTJh_ljKmA?si=8EJ0xabqeAh19Xup   Is the world of extremely Online internet politics a window into a shifting paradigm in what moves the political needle in America? Or is it simply a new way to market yourself in the era of the "Influencer"? We'll discuss with Joshua Citarella   Josh's Substack: https://joshuacitarella.substack.com/   Thank you guys again for taking the time to check this out. We appreciate each and everyone of you. If you have the means, and you feel so inclined, BECOME A PATRON! We're creating patron only programing, you'll get bonus content from many of the episodes, and you get MERCH!   Become a patron now https://www.patreon.com/join/BitterLakePresents? Please also like, subscribe, and follow us on these platforms as well, (specially YouTube!)   THANKS Y'ALL   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG9WtLyoP9QU8sxuIfxk3eg Twitch: www.twitch.tv/thisisrevolutionpodcast www.twitch.tv/leftflankvets​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Thisisrevolutionpodcast/ Twitter: @TIRShowOakland Instagram: @thisisrevolutionoakland   Read Jason Myles in Sublation Magazine https://www.sublationmag.com/writers/jason-myles   Read Jason Myles in Damage Magazine https://damagemag.com/2023/11/07/the-man-who-sold-the-world/   Pascal Robert's Black Agenda Report: https://www.blackagendareport.com/author/Pascal%20Robert

Watch the YouTube version of this episode HEREAre you a law firm owner who is looking to integrate more technology in your firm? In this podcast episode, Jim and Tyson discuss legal tech with Colin Levy, a lawyer and legal tech expert as they explore the role of artificial intelligence in law.Colin provides his thoughts on practical tools that law firms can use to become more efficient. One of these tools is Clio. which is a practice management software that is accessible, easy to set up and is great when it comes to the learning curve. This means it is easy to teach first timers. Other tools like Joseph and Brighter (which are code and no code tools) are a bit more advanced and allow users to set up workflows for their teams. Time is money, so these tools are great to get things moving quickly!Colin shares how many law firms are resistant to using technology and AI because of the misconception that it is expensive and time consuming. The biggest fear many lawyers have is using technology that will give them incorrect information and make their job harder. Most choose to stay within their comfort zone and use tools or methods of working that are not that efficient. AI and technology can help any business grow and innovate the way things are done.Jim, Tyson and Colin talk through the ideal tech package that firms need if they are just starting out. Clio is great for administrative tasks like invoicing and billing, which is such a crucial part of any business and a good, reliable tool is needed to ensure things are kept in order. Having a tool to streamline intake forms or feedback forms is important so they are collected, received and actioned out to whoever needs to work on it. Another tool is some sort of project management tool that shows workflows, what needs to be focused on or what needs attention.Listen in to learn more from Colin!6:10 Accessible tools like Clio16:01 The fear of technology in the legal field18:16 Recommended tools for new law firmsJim's Hack: Read the book called “Extremely Online” by Taylor Lorenz, which talks about the history of different social media channels.Colin's Tip: Take time for yourself as the world moves very quickly. Take a few minutes to relax and listen to what your body is telling you.Tyson's Tip: Experiment with building GPT's through OpenAI.Tune in to today's episode and checkout the full show notes here.Connect with Colin:Website LinkedInX Thank you to our sponsors for supporting the Maximum Lawyer podcast:Reach out to RizeUp Media for your SEO and website needs here!Contact Get Staffed Up for your virtual staffing needs here!Resources:Join the Guild MembershipSubscribe to the Maximum Lawyer Youtube ChannelFollow us on InstagramJoin the Facebook GroupFollow the Facebook PageFollow us on LinkedIn

This week on Conspiracy Theories: Book Club, we are joined by tech journalist and author Taylor Lorenz to discuss the creator economy, social media, and what it means to be extremely online. After the interview, we're joined by Carter for a wrap up conversation, where we discuss social media's influence on our own lives. (22:41) The audiobook edition of Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet by Taylor Lorenz is available for Spotify Premium Subscribers in our Audiobook catalog, where you can check it out after listening to this episode. To buy the hard copy, you can visit: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Extremely-Online/Taylor-Lorenz/9781982146863. Thank you so much for tuning in to Conspiracy Theories: Book Club! We hope you enjoyed this special set of episodes. Carter will be back next week with a brand new episode of Conspiracy Theories. *Our interview has been edited for length and clarity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this week's episode, I have influencer/creator expert Taylor Lorenz. Tune in as we talk about her book, “Extremely Online: The Untold Story Of Fame, Influence, And Power On The Internet” as well as her experiences working as a journalist for “The Washington Post” and “The New York Times”. We also dive into some tidbits she has about social media.Show NotesTaylor Lorenz on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz/?hl=enTaylor Lorenz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorlorenz?lang=enTaylor Lorenz on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp38w5n099xkvoqciOaeFagMichael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Newsletter - https://michaeljamin.com/newsletterAutogenerated TranscriptTaylor Lorenz:These old school entertainment people come on and they don't really understand the app and they clearly are not doing it themselves. They have some content assistant and then they're like, Hey kids, I guess I have to be here now. And it's like, what are you doing here? I will say the musicians do a better job. Megan Trainor has Chris Olsson, but TikTok buddy that, and music is such a part of TikTok, I feel like they get a warmer reception.Michael Jamin:You're listening to, what the Hell is Michael Jamin talking about? I'll tell you what I'm talking about. I'm talking about creativity, I'm talking about writing, and I'm talking about reinventing yourself through the arts.Hey everyone, what the hell? It's Michael Jamin talking about today. I'm going to tell you what I'm talking about. So for those of you who have been listening for a long time, I'm always telling you, just put your work out there. Get on social media, start making a name for yourself, because whether you want to be an actor or a writer or director, you got to bring more to the table than just your desire to get a big paycheck and become rich and famous. If you can bring a market, if you can bring your audience you're going to bring, that brings a lot to the table. And so my next guest is an expert on this, and she's the author of Extremely Online, the Untold Story of Fame, influence and Power on the Internet. I'm holding up her book. If you're watching this podcast, if you're driving in the car, you can imagine that there's a book and has a cover. So please welcome, pull over your car and give a round of applause to Taylor Lorenz. Thank you Taylor for coming and joining me for talking about this. It's an honor meeting you finally.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, likewise. Excited to be here.Michael Jamin:So you wrote this great book, which I read, and there's so much, I guess there's so much. You actually document the history starting from the beginning of mommy bloggers and all these people who kind of were at the forefront and then built a name for themselves on social media. And so I'm just hoping to talk to you about how we can take some of this information and apply it to the people who listen to my podcast and follow me on social media so that they can help do the same. So I guess starting from the beginning, what was interesting that you pointed out is that women were kind of at the forefront at this whole thing. You want to talk about that a little bit?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, definitely. I mean, I talk about this in the book, but in the turn of the millennium, the early aughts, this blogging was taking off and there were tons of blogs, and I talk about some of the big political and tech blogs at the time, but it wasn't really until the mommy bloggers entered onto the internet in the early aughts who were these moms, these stay at home moms that really had nothing else to do. A lot of them were shut out of the labor market, and they turned to blogging and ended up really building their own kind of feminist media empires by building audiences. And they were the first to really cultivate strong personal brands online and then leverage those personal brands to monetize.Michael Jamin:And you're right about, I remember this may have been 10 years ago or maybe longer, one of my friends, our screenwriter, she developed a TV show on these mommy bloggers. And I'm like, wait a minute. And there was a couple of people who did that. Max Nik, who was a guest on my podcast a while, a couple weeks ago, same thing. He wrote a show based on shit my dad says, but it's on a Twitter feed and there's all these people. It's so interesting. I was a little late to the game in terms of Hollywood exploiting all these markets, these people who are making names for themselves. Lemme back up for a second though. Why did you decide to even write this book?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, so I started covering this. I started as a blogger myself a little bit later.Michael Jamin:What were you blogging?Taylor Lorenz:I was blogging about my life, a lot, about my life and a lot of about online culture stuff. I thought that the mainstream media was really bad at covering the internet, and so I thought, I'm going to write about the internet. This was when I was young millennial, right out of college.Michael Jamin:You were writing about your personal life?Taylor Lorenz:Yes.Michael Jamin:Okay. So that's a whole different thing. You're opening yourself up to everything. And was there any, I know I'm jumping around here, I guess I have so many questions, but I don't know, was there backlash from that? Were there repercussions? Because we're talking about people do this. What's the backlash?Taylor Lorenz:Well, this was like 2009, so it was such a different internet, and I'm so grateful, honestly, that I was blogging in that era and not this era because I think I didn't get a lot of backlash. I had a great community. I met some of my best friends, were other bloggers from that era. I became very popular on Tumblr for my single serving like meme, like blogs. So yeah, I think when you're young, you're just kind of trying a lot of different things out. I didn't know what I wanted to do out of college. I'd never studied journalism. I didn't know I was working at a call center and just became popular on the internet and then was like, I guess I'm pretty good at thisMichael Jamin:Stuff. Really? I didn't know that about it. You have a pretty big following on TikTok and Instagram as well, which is so weird because you're writing about something that you are also participating in. I mean, it's almost meta how you are, what you're talking about. No,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. I mean, I started, had I been able to monetize my blog nowadays, content creators on TikTok, they can monetize in 2009, 2010, couldn't, the best that you could hope for was one of those book deals that Urban Outfitters. Right?Michael Jamin:ButTaylor Lorenz:You couldn't really leverage it into much. I ended up just leveraging it into a career in media, which has been fun. ButMichael Jamin:See, this is what's interesting to me because right now you see so many people on social media, how do I monetize this? Meaning ads or even sponsorships, but there's other ways to monetize outside of brand deals or views on YouTube getting used. So yeah, there's a whole, I don't know. Do you think that's a large percentage of people on the internet? It seems like to me most are doing it to monetize for the brand deals. What's your take on it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, I think now that you can monetize in that way, a lot of people, that's their end goal. I'm kind of glad. I mean, it's a double-edged sword. Who knows what I could have done if I was able to monetize, but I'm really glad actually that you couldn't, because I think myself and a lot of other bloggers, we ended up going in a lot of different ways and entering into a lot of media type of jobs that, yeah, I mean would've never gotten otherwise. And I've learned how to be a journalist and I've gotten all these opportunities and my whole career from just experimenting and having fun online. So yeah, I think I always tell people, it's great if you can monetize, get the bag. If somebody comes to you offering you thousands of dollars, why not? But I think it's really good to take that virality and leverage it into, I like what Kayla Scanlan does, or Kyla, she's the economics YouTuber, and she gives all these talks about econ now, and she has a newsletter, and she's able to just do a lot more. It's not just doing a bunch of brand deals online. It's like using it to launch a career and whatever you want to have a career in.Michael Jamin:Yeah, see, I see. That's the funny, I think it's so smart what you're saying. I see some people, I'm like wondering, what's your end game out of this? Is it just to, but what you're saying is the end game, it's interesting. The end game is to do something else. And I wonder if that's what's going on with Hollywood people when I'm encouraging people to, I don't know, put theirselves out there with their art, their writing their music or whatever in my mind, to build an audience following to basically, so you can do the next thing. But I'm wondering how often that if you see that happening for people,Taylor Lorenz:I think the smart ones do recognize it. I feel like the internet, you're just hopping from lily pad to lily pad a lot of the time, which I know that's how a lot of creative people feel. It's just like, I think internet fame in itself can be a goal. I mean, look, someone like Mr. Beast, you've done it. You crack the code. Most people are not going to reach that level. And so it makes a lot of sense. If you're really into food, you're making food content, use that to open your own restaurant or food line or whatever, but use it to go into something that you're interested in because then you still, you always have that online audience. I still have my online audience. I have people that have followed me for a decade and maybe they know me from my blog or I had a Snapchat show in 2016 or things that I've done over the years, but it's always in service of my broader career.Michael Jamin:And so Well, maybe tell me what that is. Do you have a broader goal ahead of all this? Other than getting a book, which is pretty impressive.Taylor Lorenz:I know. I never thought I would write a book. And then just, there was a lot of revisionist history once the pandemic hit in 2021 and all these venture capitalists were pouring money into the content creator world, and TikTok was taking off. People were just kind of like, they were rewriting history. And I was like, I'm going to write the definitive history. I've been around for this. And I always thought it would be interesting to write a book. I didn't know anything about the publishing industry, except I have a couple friends that did those Urban Outfitters typeMichael Jamin:Books. That's so funny.Taylor Lorenz:See,Michael Jamin:Oh, go ahead. I don't cut you off. So your broader goals. Oh, yeah.Taylor Lorenz:I love media. I love media. I want to keep working in media. I love creative sort of endeavors. I like writing. I make videos as I am very obsessed with news media, so I wantMichael Jamin:To, right. So maybe more of that. There's a couple of things in that book, in your book that kind of took me a little bit by surprise. One is there are, well, first of all, I think there are people who make content. This is just my opinion, their content's a little disposable. And so you spoke about people who, I don't know, it's like pranksters who they got to keep upping the prank until it comes to a point where this one woman you're talking about, she was sick to her stomach with the pressure of having to come up with something all the time. And to me, it felt like that's because you're making, I guess I have a rule. I have a rule. I was like, I don't want to spend more than 10 minutes a day on this. But there are people who spend on posting, but there are people who put way a lot of time and pressure on this, and it winds up destroying themselves, don't you think?Taylor Lorenz:Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, there's a whole bunch of that in my book of just the burnout. And I think, like you said, it comes from just making content for content's sake and feeling like it's an extra burden and giving it, it's also when it's your whole livelihood, the stakes become higher. That's why I say you should diversify a little bit.Michael Jamin:Yeah. There was another, the thing that really surprised me that I learned from your book, because I'm a little older, so I don't really know all this stuff, but there's a whole culture of content creators who their job is just to talk shit about other content creators.Taylor Lorenz:And I'm like,Michael Jamin:Oh my God. And I've witnessed some of this stuff, but I didn't realize it's really a thing, like a gossip. They're just gossipers, right?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. They basically have replaced tabloid news for the internet, and yeah, it's a huge drama channel industrial complex online that you're lucky if you've not encountered.Michael Jamin:Yeah. And do they go anywhere with, what do you think is the end game for them?Taylor Lorenz:Well, I mean, the woman that runs DUIs, which is more of a blind item, celebrity news page, she has a podcast. She also, she wrote a novel kind of based around the content. Others like Diet Prada have really successful newsletters. A lot of the other commentators like Keemstar and stuff, their goal is just to basically run these media empires of gossip, kind of like a TMZ for the internet.Michael Jamin:And then how are they further monetizing though?Taylor Lorenz:They monetize through partnerships and brand deals and a lot through YouTube ads. They get a lot of views. A lot of them get a lot of views on YouTube.Michael Jamin:See, I just turned, maybe I'm crazy, but I turned down a brand deal today because I thought, I don't know, it doesn't align with anything that I stand for. And I was like, am I crazy for turning this down? Or I don't know. But have you get approached by things that, are you turning stuff down?Taylor Lorenz:Well, yeah, I have to turn down so much stuff. I'll never forget a tech company, which I will not name, offered me $60,000 to do three video, three audio chat rooms for them.Michael Jamin:What is an audio chat room?Taylor Lorenz:Like? A live chat type thing? It was going to be like three hours of work. And obviously I couldn't do it because I can't take on sponsored content. I'm a journalist. You can't do that, especially not with a tech company. But I have to say that one really made me question my career choices. Normally people are like, can you promote X, Y, Z? And I explained that I don't do.Michael Jamin:So there's nothing that you can promote a journalist. There's nothing.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, I could theoretically probably promote companies that I don't cover, but I don't really want to, I don't need to make $500 promoting a mop.Michael Jamin:Right, right. Yeah, it's so interesting. You have to protect what you, it's so odd because I don't see a lot of people making brand when I'm scrolling through my pages for you a page on TikTok, I don't see a lot of people making brand deals, but I guess they are, right? Am I not seeing it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, the branded content doesn't always live on TikTok. A lot of times they'll create whitelisted content that the brand then promotes in a TikTok ad.Michael Jamin:Wait, when you say white, okay, explain this to me. So whitelisted means the creator. Go ahead.Taylor Lorenz:The creator creates branded content, but it doesn't necessarily live on their feed. They create it for the brand, and then the brand will use that video they made to the creator, like, wow, I love my air stick selfie thing. They'll run ads. So it's using that creator's likeness in the ad. It's the video that they made, but you're not going to see it on their page. You're going to see it in the,Michael Jamin:But do they not put it on their page or you're not going to see it? No one's going to watch it.Taylor Lorenz:Sometimes they do put it on their page, sometimes they don't. I mean, all of these are negotiated in the terms of the ad deals, which are structured increasingly in complicated ways. But I mean, there's a lot of spun con on TikTok. Also, sometimes there's product placement on TikTok. You'll see people doing videos with certain products. Sometimes the products have paid to be in their,Michael Jamin:And they have to mention this, right? They have to, I wasn't aware of this, but theoretically, yes, theoretically. But you're saying they don't always mention it. They don't always say, this isTaylor Lorenz:The sponsor. So the FTC says Yes, and I write about that decision in 2017 when they had to do that. The thing is that a lot of times they can get away with not saying it because it's not directly sponsored. For instance, you could have a long-term, year long partnership with the brand. They could be giving you tons of free product, but they didn't directly pay you for that post. So you feel like, oh, I don't have to disclose it,Michael Jamin:But they paid you for something. I mean, that doesn't make sense. They paid you. It's totally great. Okay. Yeah. ButTaylor Lorenz:People get around it by kind of fudging things.Michael Jamin:Who would get in trouble then if they got caught? The brand, not the TikTok or whatever.Taylor Lorenz:Not really. I mean, they went after Kim Kardashian. If you're that level, they'll go after you. But normally they're going after the brands. The brands are usually doing this. And also it's ultimately the brand or the agency that's running the marketing campaign that's up. It's up to them to enforce it and be like, Hey, put this in your caption.Michael Jamin:You said something else that surprised me in your book is that at one point, maybe it's still this way that the agencies are making the money and many of the creators are not getting that money. Explain to me what happens. I read it twice. It's like, wait, I'm missing something. SoTaylor Lorenz:There's been this explosion in sort of middlemen agencies, management companies that have come in. And what they do is they find these up and coming creators, they sign them into contracts like, Hey, I'll handle all your spun con, or I'll come in and do this deal. And then they take a huge portion, the brand pays maybe a hundred thousand dollars for a campaign. The agency will come in and take 50% of that or something, and then the rest goes to the creators. They allocate it, soMichael Jamin:They're getting something. You couldTaylor Lorenz:Argue that they are providing a service, and that's true, but the less ethical agencies are less upfront about the amount that they're taking.Michael Jamin:Interesting. Oh, they don't tell you how much it is? Probably,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. They won't tell you what the brand originally paid. They'll just say, oh, it's $10,000 for this campaign. Nevermind that we got a hundred thousand dollars from the actualMichael Jamin:Brand. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's so much to be careful. There really is. And so I asked you a little bit earlier if you knew of many. Okay, so I'll let give you an example from my experience. So I did a show, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago, maybe not maybe 10. And the studio, we had a cast a role, and the studio wanted to get an influencer to play the part because this influencer had a bigger audience than the network had. And he turned it down several times because the money, he was going to paid a lot of money, but the money wasn't worth it to him. He was making more on a daily, which I was shocked about. And so do you know more? Can you speak more to that?Taylor Lorenz:That happens all the time. Yeah.Michael Jamin:Really?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah.Michael Jamin:I thought this guy was crazy, but okay, go on.Taylor Lorenz:Well, I mean, for a lot of content creators, their goal, it depends on the content creators. Some content creators, their goal is to get into Hollywood, and that would be an amazing opportunity for them. But especially the ones at the upper echelon, they're already the a-list of the internet. They're making millions of dollars. They really don't need to engage. And maybe it's a fun thing if they want to do it, and they have time and it's like a novelty type thing, or it adds some sort of legitimacy to them. But a lot of times, if they're spending, for instance, hours on a set, that's money out of their pocket that they could be making a lot. So it kind of doesn't make sense. And people have struggled. Not every content creator succeeds as well. So I think some of them do have that feeling of like, look, I'm really good at this. I know I'm really good at this. I'm making money. Do I want to gamble? Take time away from that. Try my hand at this thing that maybe I have and succeeded at before. It's not always there.Michael Jamin:Maybe I shouldn't even ask this on as we're being recorded. Do you know this guy, nurse Blake? Have you heard of him?Taylor Lorenz:I don't think so. Wait,Michael Jamin:Okay. Because I can't tell if he's a comedian or a nurse, but whatever he is, he's selling out arenas.Taylor Lorenz:Oh, I know this guy. I've seen him before. Yes. He's a comedian, right?Michael Jamin:Well, he doesn't act, but I also see him also posting in the hospital. It seems like he could be selling out arenas, but also he likes doing the rounds or something. I don't know. Yeah.Taylor Lorenz:So it's so funny. I don't know when you joined TikTok, but the earliest content creators on TikTok back in 2018, when it flipped from musically to TikTok, the earliest groups of content creators that emerged were police officers, nurses and service workers. And they were all gaining huge audiences. And I think it's because those jobs have an enormous amount of downtime, and they kind of almost have interesting stages themselves. They're always in the hospital or at Walmart working or whatever. And so there's a lot of people like that on social media that have kind of pivoted their career in that way to,Michael Jamin:Okay. I've been on a TikTok for maybe two and a half years, and at first I was very self-conscious. I was like, isn't this the app where teenage girls shuffle dance? Am I going to be the creepy guy on this app? And you're saying, it's so hard to tell. I mean, the first time, my first week and a half of posts were like this, this is cringey.Taylor Lorenz:They always say, you know what? My favorite quote is that I think all the time Xavier from Party Shirt said this, that everything is cringe until it gets views. And I think that'sMichael Jamin:True. Until it getsTaylor Lorenz:It's popular. It's not cringe anymore,Michael Jamin:I guess. So when you first started posting, did you look to anyone for, I don't know, to emulate?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. I mean, there's this woman, Katie nais, who's still hilarious internet person, and she's a blogger too. She ended up working at Buzzfeed for a decade. I always just wanted to be like her. She was so creative and funny. She had this website called, I think it was called Party something. She would aggregate really funny party photos, and she just was really good at finding funny things on the internet.Michael Jamin:And do you know, have you reached out to her?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, now I'm friends with her because I've been obsessed with her for my whole career. So sheMichael Jamin:Very really, so now you have a friendship with her. That's nice. Do you get recognized a lot when you're out and about?Taylor Lorenz:Not in la. No one gives a shit about me in la.Michael Jamin:But when you're out somewhere else, if I'm notTaylor Lorenz:VidCon or something, yeah, usually. I mean, I got recognized in DC on my book tour when I was eating. That was cool. But yeah, sometimes, I mean, when I was doing my Snapchat show, I got recognized a lot more, I think, because a lot of kids were seeing me on the Snapchat Discover Channel thing.Michael Jamin:I was on your link tree, you're everywhere, but are you active on every, I'm like, damn. She's on every platform.Taylor Lorenz:I'm an equal opportunity poster. Well, I mean, I cover this world, so I kind of feel obligated to be on everything. I definitely think Instagram and TikTok are my main ones. And then I have threads also now,Michael Jamin:Which I, are you making different content you posting? Are you reposting or posting brand new stuff? Everywhere.Taylor Lorenz:I repost. If I make a short video for TikTok, I repost it on reels and YouTube shorts. YouTube's always the one that I like. I'm so lazy about, honestly,Michael Jamin:It's hard to grow on YouTube. It's soTaylor Lorenz:Hard to grow, and I don't know, it's just like there's something demoralizing about YouTube.Michael Jamin:Interesting.Taylor Lorenz:But yeah, I think it's because it's like, you know how it is, it's like you post something, you get a hundred thousand views on TikTok, it's doing really well on Instagram. And then you go on YouTube and it's like me, 2000 views, and you're like, oh, I'm aMichael Jamin:Failure. What's the point of that? And you were blocked. Are you still blocked from Twitter or whatever? Twitter is?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Elon banned me for a while. I did get back on. I don't really, Twitter is dead to me, honestly.Michael Jamin:What did you do to get banned?Taylor Lorenz:I was, well, he banned me under this rule that he made that said you couldn't promote your links to other social media profiles. And I was promoting my Instagram account, so that's what he technically banned me under. But what he really banned me for is that I reached out to him for comment. I wrote a story about how he completely lied about a bunch of stuff, and I reached out to him for comment. And the minute I reached out to him for comment, I got banned. And then he tried to say, oh, it was actually because she was promoting her Instagram. No,Michael Jamin:That was Oh, interesting. So do you think he was guy, do you, you made it he enemy. He responds. He knows who you are and hates you.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Oh, he definitely, yes. I mean, I've interacted with him somewhat frequent basis, but that week I was not the only journalist that was banned for reporting on him. So the same week, drew Harwell, my colleague was banned, and then a bunch of people from the New York Times, we all got banned within a week, soMichael Jamin:Wow. BackTaylor Lorenz:On.Michael Jamin:And then they let you back on. Interesting. And then you're, screw this.Taylor Lorenz:But yeah, Twitter is also just very toxic and political, and I think culture is happening more on TikTok.Michael Jamin:Don't you think they're all toxic?Taylor Lorenz:Oh, totally. But I think Twitter's uniquely toxic. TikTok is toxic in a different way.Michael Jamin:Okay. I want to know what you think the differences are in each platform, because I have opinions, but Okay. Yeah. What are your differences? I mean,Taylor Lorenz:Twitter is just very political, and it's political in a way that there's a lot of, especially as a member of the media, it's like there's a lot of journalists on there. I think it's a giant group chat for a lot of media people. It's stressful. Editors, bosses are on there. I don't really use it. I use it to keep up with, I'm super immunocompromised, and so I keep up with Covid News on there. It's really the only thing I use it for. It's really hard to get news and information because Elon has sort of made so many changes to make it hard to get news on there. So I don't mess with Twitter. TikTok I love. But yeah, I mean, TikTok is just mob mentality. So I mean, I'll never forget. I defended, do you remember West Elm Caleb?Michael Jamin:No. And it's so funny when you say these names. I'm like, these ridiculous names. I'm like, no, I don't know that comic book character.Taylor Lorenz:Okay, well, west Elm Caleb a year and a half ago was getting canceled on TikTok. He was a guy that ghosted a bunch of people. He ghosted a bunch of women, and a bunch of women went on TikTok, like, this guy's a ghoster. And it got so crazy that he got fully doxxed and fired from his job. And anyway, I defended him and I was like, Hey guys, can we calm down a little bit? We haven't even heard this guy's side of the story. I believe he shouldn't be an asshole to women, but I've been doxxed. It sucks. Don't do that. And TikTok, they came for me hard on that one. They were like, no,Michael Jamin:No,Taylor Lorenz:Somebody from West Tom, Caleb.Michael Jamin:And then, yeah. How worried are you about, I worry about that. How worried about you getting haters and stuff?Taylor Lorenz:I've gotten haters. I write about YouTubers for a living. So if I was worried about haters, it doesn't matter. My friend is a pop music writer, and he was saying, he told me a couple years ago, because if anytime you are covering something with a fandom, you're going to deal with haters. And they're vicious, but a lot of them are 11 years old, or they're just online and they're mad andMichael Jamin:Okay. Do you respond to your posts comments on your post? You do.Taylor Lorenz:I do. I try to mean, don't try not to respond to haters. Sometimes I'm weak and I do respond to the haters, but noMichael Jamin:Good comes of it. Right? When you do, no,Taylor Lorenz:No good comes of it. But sometimes you just, I don't know. You just got to, butMichael Jamin:Even if you respond with kindness, which I did today to somebody, he just doubled down on his stupidity. They don't care. Why am I trying to,Taylor Lorenz:They don't care at all. They're like, fuck you.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. No, it doesn't help. I mean, sometimes if I'm bored, I've replied something, but I mostly just ignore those people, or I limit my comments and I try to keep it to that only my community's engaging and not a bunch of randos. Or if they have a good faith question, I get a lot of story ideas from people commenting. Or sometimes smart people will comment, you click on their profile, you're like, oh, cool. Person's interesting. Right.Michael Jamin:Okay. Okay. So you sound emotionally mature about this whole thing? Maybe more than I am because I get upset sometimes.Taylor Lorenz:No, trust me, I've had my moments. It's hard. But I think I've just been through it so long. I've been through the cycle so many times that I'm immune.Michael Jamin:And do you talk to your colleagues who, I guess, are they as active as you are on, let say on TikTok? No. Other reporters?Taylor Lorenz:Journalists are not. It's weird with journalists on TikTok. They're not really, journalists are so addicted to Twitter. Twitter is where everyone in the media is. And there's some journalists on TikTok, but not that many. So the ones that are, I think we all try to support each other,Michael Jamin:Or it's just not competitive. Yeah, it's supportive. You think?Taylor Lorenz:I try to be supportive. I don't, like somebody said this really early on of Don't compete collab or something. It was like early thing. And I really like that. I felt that with blogging too. I had made friends with a lot of bloggers. We were all in the same group. And it's just like the internet is really vast and everyone is unique. AndMichael Jamin:There's not tooTaylor Lorenz:Many internet culture reporters either. So,Michael Jamin:Well, that's a question I can't tell how big TikTok is. Sometimes I'll see, oh my God, this creator knows that creator, and they talk whether they stick to each other. I'm like, wow, this is a small place. But then I'm wondering, well, maybe I'm only seeing this wedge of the pie, and it's actually much larger. I can't get a sense of how big this thing is.Taylor Lorenz:It is really big. I mean, it's like billions of users, so it's really big. But I do think that inMichael Jamin:Terms of the creators though, theTaylor Lorenz:Creator community is smaller than you think. And I think the people that are really active, they form a network. And you're always going to get people that are a couple degrees away from people that you follow usually.Michael Jamin:Yeah. Where do you think, I'm certainly not the first person to say this, but during the early days of Instagram, it was always about people. This is the glamorous life. It was all made up. It was like they got sponsored posts to be on a yacht or whatever. They're pretending to be rich and famous or whatever. And because we're all idiots, we're like, wow, they're rich and famous, and they're living that life. And then that somehow evolved to now influences turn to creators, and creators are more authentic. This is my life. Take it or leave it. What do you think there's next? What comes next after that? Do you have any idea? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:I mean, I think we always flip back and forth between aspirational versus authenticity. And people want a little bit of both. People still want the aspirational content. It's just not everything. And I do think that the authenticity is part of the appeal, and I don't think it's going away anytime soon. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, different content formats perform well depending on what the platform is promoting. So right now, they really want long form video. So I think we're going to see people that succeed in long form grow faster.Michael Jamin:But do you think when you're posting, maybe you don't even want to answer this on the air. I wouldn't blame you. Are you thinking about, oh, this post will do Well, I should talk about this. I know it'll do well. Or is it like, this is what I'm talking about, take it or leave it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. It depends on the day. Some days so many times where I'm like, oh, I know this would do well, but I just don't feel like posting today.Michael Jamin:Oh, really? EspeciallyTaylor Lorenz:Lately, oh my God. There's been so many things where I'm like, oh, that's going to go viral. And then I see somebody else posted and I'm like, good. They got the traffic. You have to be early on something. And then sometimes just most stuff I just post because I think it's interesting, and it's just my taste and news and information and just something I found interesting. But howMichael Jamin:Long will you spend on a post? Do you do it again and again until you get it right? No. One take and you're done?Taylor Lorenz:Usually, maybe I'll do two or three if I might rerecord something, but I don't take it that seriously. It's just one of many things I'm doing during the day, so not, and especially since I've been on book tour, I've just been too busy to make. I go through periods and it depends on how busy I am, how many videos I'm making.Michael Jamin:And how much of your personal life, because I know you're talking about technology and you're interviewing people and you're covering events like a journalist, but how much of yourself do you share?Taylor Lorenz:I share my opinions. I mean, I'm very opinionated, and I think I always tell people that you can be very authentic. And I think a lot of people would find me to be very authentic person online. I'm not a shy person or something, but I don't talk about my personal information. Also, it's not that interesting, I think. Oh, butMichael Jamin:People would love to know. People would love to know. I know Date youTaylor Lorenz:Nosy. They're nosy. But I think about all the cool stuff that I did in my twenties, and I'm like, I wish I had TikTok, I think back then, and I was talking about my life more. I was doing more and going out more. And now I'm like, I have a little bit more of a chill life. So sometimes I talk about walking around the Silver Lake reservoir or something, but I'm not like, if I go to a really interesting event, maybe I'll share it. I mean, I just went to Dubai and I actually haven't posted yet, but I'm making a video about that.Michael Jamin:I can't believe you went. That flight is just too long. I would think it wasTaylor Lorenz:So long. It was so long. But I got invited to this book festival, and I thought, when else am I going to go?Michael Jamin:Okay, what is a book festival?Taylor Lorenz:So there's this really big book festival called the Sharjah International Book Festival, and it's huge. And there's thousands of authors and books, and yeah, I got invited to speak, and I thought,Michael Jamin:Oh, you're speaking. So what if you're not speaking, what happens to Is everyone, okay? If you weren't invited to speak, would you be at a booth? What is it? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:You just attend. I mean, there's thousands of people that attend and they just come from all over to, there's a lot of book buyers, and then there's a lot of publishing industry people in the Middle East and in Europe and that side of the world. And then there's just a lot of people that are interested in meeting the authors, going to panels. There's a lot of celebrity author type people there.Michael Jamin:Who's setting that up? Your publisher or who?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, the publisher. Actually, I think maybe my book agent forwarded it to me. They were forwarded it to me, look at this random thing, and I was like, no, that's so cool. I want to do it.Michael Jamin:Oh, wow, really? And so did they fly you out?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, they flew me out. They didn't pay me or anything. They just flew me out and covered my travel, which honestly was enough for me. It was pretty cool. HowMichael Jamin:Many days were you there?Taylor Lorenz:I was only there for three, four days. Four days,Michael Jamin:Including the flight, which was theTaylor Lorenz:Travel was a day on each side because the travel wasMichael Jamin:Long. And then you were there for the rest of the time, and you spoke on the panel? I was on the panel. That's an hour,Taylor Lorenz:Michael. I just did tourist stuff. I didn't have to do anything aside from that, so I was like, let me just go.Michael Jamin:Oh, okay. So it was a chance for you to be a tourist.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. My friend is an editor over there for Bloomberg, and so we hung out and just did all the cool Dubai stuff together.Michael Jamin:But I'm curious because it's interesting, since you were a journalist, are we supposed to know anything about you? I mean, are there rules? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:It's so funny. So the old school sort of notions of journalism is like, I'm serious, and I don't talk about my life, and I never share an opinion. I think that's a very outdated and dumb model of journalism that nobody will trust. That's why we have a crisis in media, I think, of trust is because people don't know about, there's so much mistrust in the media, and I'd much rather be upfront with my beliefs and tell people, Hey, look, this is what I'm thinking about the issue. Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I'm right? Ultimately, the goal of writing any article is to be fair and accurate.Michael Jamin:WeTaylor Lorenz:AllMichael Jamin:Have. I thought you weren't supposed to be biased. I thought you were supposed to. Why do I know? I thought you supposed to. This is theTaylor Lorenz:Fact everyone. Everyone has opinions, right? There's no such thing on earth. The point is, is that you're not allowed. You shouldn't let that kind of shape the story to the point that it alters the truth. But to act like, oh, I don't have opinions as a journalist, that's stupid. We're all human beings. We all have opinions. Baseball writers that write about sports teams, they still are fans of a specific team. That doesn't mean that it's going to shape their coverage. That's the most important thing. It's like, I might love or hate certain things on the internet, but I'm not going to let it affect some story to the point that it would be truthful. You know what I mean?Michael Jamin:This gets into something else. Whereas you're kind of maybe, I don't know if this isn't the right word, but a celebrity journalist, because you recently had a photo spread in this magazine, and they're dressing you up and couture, right? I mean, so what's that about? You're celebrity journalist.Taylor Lorenz:I know. I've been in a couple things like that. Yeah, I mean, look, journalists have always been, it's always been a public facing job. It's always been a public. I mean, Woodward and Bernstein, obviously. Bob Woodward also works at The Post. He's incredibly famous. Anderson Cooper, Barbara Walters, the original female journalist, Katie Couric. All these journalists are, well-known household names because of their journalism, but of course, they're also people. And I think with the internet now, that's all come to a smaller scale. I'm definitely not at those people's levels at all. But with the internet, I think we all follow journalists and content creators. And again, it goes back to transparency. That's what I think is a big problem with that old model of media, where it's like, don't ever speak your opinion or something on anything. Because I think actually when you don't and you try to sort of act like, oh, I don't have an opinion, that's a lie.Everyone has an opinion on everything. Or maybe, but you should just be honest about it because that helps people trust you. I can be like, look, I don't love, this is a total example. I do love Emma Chamberlain, but I could be like, I don't love Emma Chamberlain, but I had the opportunity to interview her editing style was pioneering. It transformed YouTube. I wrote about it in my book, X, Y, Z. I'm not going to let my personal feelings about her color, but I would answer questions about it. If somebody asked me, I'd be like, well, here's my thoughts.Michael Jamin:Okay, so what is your daily life then? Do you freelance all these? How does it work? What is your life?Taylor Lorenz:No, I work for the Washington Post. So I am on our morning meeting every day at 8:00 AM on Zoom.Michael Jamin:Okay. Is no one, well, that's a good question. Is everyone online now? If you work for the Washington Post, does no one go to the office?Taylor Lorenz:They have a big office in Washington, but I moved out here with the New York Times, so I was at the New York Times for several years, and New York Times does have an office in la. So they moved me out here, and then the Post recruited me, and I was like, well, I'm not leaving la. And they have a lot of people from the post in LA obviously as well. Are youMichael Jamin:From, I thought you were from la. No,Taylor Lorenz:No. I live in la, but I'm from New York originally.Michael Jamin:Oh, where are you in New York? Are you from?Taylor Lorenz:Well, I lived on the Upper East Side when I was little, and I lived all over New York. I've lived, I think 11 different neighborhoods,Michael Jamin:But all, not all in Manhattan?Taylor Lorenz:No, no, no, no. Mostly in Brooklyn. I was in Fort Green before I moved.Michael Jamin:Okay. I didn't know that. So you're a New Yorker. Okay. Yeah. And then not anymore. So are you pitching them ideas or are they telling you, this is what we want you to cover today?Taylor Lorenz:It's a mix. I would say it's probably like 80 to 90% coming up with your own ideas. The rest of it. Sometimes there's an editor assigned story. Most of the time it's breaking news. So for instance, the war breaks out. I cover TikTok. I cover the content. So they're like, well, is there an angle on it?Michael Jamin:Why is news? My God. So what is most of your day then? Is it surfing the internet, or is it making calls to experts or whatever?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, it's a mix. I wish it was surfing the internet all day, but it's a lot of meetings, a lot of, we have editorial meetings where we discuss coverage and we all give feedback on our stories. And I have meetings with my editor to talk about stories. I write features, so I generally write longer pieces. Sometimes I'm working on investigations for months.Michael Jamin:And then how did you have, go ahead. GoTaylor Lorenz:Ahead. Oh, yeah, it's a mix of, I do a lot of interviews and I do a lot of informational interviews, and I do a lot of consuming content andMichael Jamin:Keeping Well, then where did you get the time to write this book? It sounds very busy.Taylor Lorenz:I know. And I didn't take book leave like an idiot. I was like, I'll just do it nights and weekends.Michael Jamin:People go on book leave.Taylor Lorenz:Leave, yeah. But it's unpaid, so that's how they get you. And I didn't want to do that, so I thought I'll just try to do it all on top of my job. And I did, but it took me two years.Michael Jamin:Are you working on your next book? What's that?Taylor Lorenz:No, I'm not doing another book.Michael Jamin:You're done for now, but you will at some pointTaylor Lorenz:Maybe. Sure. Like yours. I don't want to do that right now.Michael Jamin:It was really hard. Why? I know. It was a lot of work, a lot of research, andTaylor Lorenz:Just the fact-checking. I interviewed about 600 people for the book, and it was just a lot. And throughout it all, I make videos, I do. I speak at things. I go to events. I have a lot going on in between.Michael Jamin:And how are you getting these speaking engagements? You're a celebrity now?Taylor Lorenz:No. No, but I talk at industry conferences type stuff a lot. Just like VidCon or things likeMichael Jamin:That. What is VidCon? Stop talking. I know what I'm talking about. I don't even know what that is.Taylor Lorenz:Wait, Michael, you need to come to VidCon next year.Michael Jamin:I don't even know what it is.Taylor Lorenz:Oh my God. VidCon is the largest, soMichael Jamin:Ignorant.Taylor Lorenz:No, no, no. You know what? You would have no reason to know it. It's the biggest conference for, it's a convention for online content creators. It's in Anaheim every year. They also have VidCon Baltimore this year. But it's a big convention where all the big content creator type people get together and the industry sort of.Michael Jamin:So are you going as a guest or are you going as a speaker?Taylor Lorenz:I've mostly, in recent years, gone as a speaker, but I used to go as a guest.Michael Jamin:And so what do you do as a guest?Taylor Lorenz:As a guest, you get to meet your biggest, you meet the big content creators that are there, talkers meet and greets. You go to panels, you can go to events. There's parties. It's kind of like a fun thing if you're up and coming or you care about the internet. It used to be a really big thing. I mean, I talk about this a little bit in the book, but it started in 2010, and it started as this small thing of just the biggest creators on the internet getting together just because there was no event, physical event. And then it got bought by Viacom, and now it's this huge.Michael Jamin:So now they reach out to you to say, we want you to be on a panel or something.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, I'm always talking about, sometimes I do interviews with big content creators on the main stage. They need somebody to interview Charlie Delio or something. And so I'll do that. Sometimes. I'm talking about, I mean, I did one, I think it was last year or the year before, on news content creators. That's something that people always want me to talkMichael Jamin:About all. So we don't live far for each other. So we'll ride fair. If you like riding in a Jeep, you're not afraid of writing into Jeep.Taylor Lorenz:I think you might be recognized. Maybe you'll be a speaker soon. They love the entertainment people. There was some women they had there one year. They always get some weird entertainment celebrity that has a YouTube channel to come, and they're always really out of place. It's very funny.Michael Jamin:They wait, why would they be out of place if they're famous? If they're a celebrity? They'reTaylor Lorenz:Not internet people. They don't even run their own channel usually.Michael Jamin:Oh, I see. So that's a whole different thing when celebrities put themselves. That's the thing. I read somewhere, well, I guess there was pushback when a celebrity gets on YouTube, it's like, Hey, or TikTok, get off TikTok celebrity. It's like, why is everyone so mad? But I guess maybe talk a little about that. What happens when they try to do that?Taylor Lorenz:I think it's just these old school entertainment. People come on and they don't really understand the app and they clearly are not doing it themselves. They have some content assistant and then they're like, Hey kids, I guess I have to be here now. And it's like, what are you doing here? I will say, the musicians do a better job. Megan Trainor has Chris Olsson, her TikTok buddy that, and music is such a part of TikTok. I feel like they get a warmer reception. But people, I mean, when Reese Smith first joined, people were like, they were in the comments being mean toMichael Jamin:Her. Aren't you rich enough? Reese? But there is some woman I follow, and I was shocked. I'm like, there's so many ways that people are making on this. And she talks about politics, so she's like a punt. That's her passion. So I'm like, okay, let's get her take on it. But she also does these, they're called TRO trips. Have you heard of this TRO Trotro trip? And so basically it's this website. So she'll run a trip in Europe, we're going to Italy for a week, come onto this and you can pay her basically to be your tour guide.Taylor Lorenz:Oh, this, I see. It's like a host. They're hosting you for the tour. Interesting. Oh my gosh,Michael Jamin:Yes. I'm like, how smart. So she basically gets a free trip, but she has to be with people for a week. She's the host. Well,Taylor Lorenz:They were doing that with our New York Times when I was at the New York Times. I think they stopped doing it because one of the reporters was being controversial on the trip, and I think they kind of scaled back the program, but I think they were like, actually, we don't want our reporters talking to the public. But they used to have people travel with New York Times reporters, and that was a way that the New York Times made money off journalists.Michael Jamin:Oh, wow. And for the same kind of thing where let's go tour the Vatican or something.Taylor Lorenz:It would be like tour the Vatican with the TimesMichael Jamin:Reallys recording or whatever. It's so weird. But there's just so many ways for people to, I don't know, make a name for themselves. I was good for her.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, totally. I mean, there's just endless ways to monetize online.Michael Jamin:I haven't discovered any of them yet, but I'm waiting for it. I got my eyes peeled, but okay, so yeah, so you go to this VidCon thing, you do a panel, and then people want your opinion. And I imagine it's people a lot smaller than you who aspire to be you.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Or it's just people in different industries that are there to learn more about the industry or It's a lot of brand people too. The head of marketing for Walmart or something.Michael Jamin:Oh, really?Taylor Lorenz:Want to understand the ecosystem.Michael Jamin:Oh, so they're not talking, I don't know, conferences. I don't know what this is about. It depends.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, sometimes those people, if they're really good, I mean, I actually know the woman who runs the Walmart, influencer marketing was also at this event I was at recently. So that's a bad example. But a lot of times it's like marketers, maybe they're not totally in it yet, or they're a brand that wants to understand the content creator world, but they don't. Maybe they're not doing that yet, or they want to do more of it. So they go to these events to build connections. AndMichael Jamin:So you're saying, I should go to this thing.Taylor Lorenz:I think you should go to VidCon. It's interesting. It's fun to just go to once. And there's a lot of fans there too. So there's the industry side, then there's the fan side, and then there's just all these sort of adjacent events.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my content, and I know you do because listening to me, I will email it to you for free. Just join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos of the week. These are for writers, actors, creative types, people. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you, and the price is free. You got no excuse to join. Go to michaeljamin.com. And now back to what the hell is Michael Jamin talking about?Alright, so what about other people who have, I guess, transition from, I guess I'm saying, what I'm thinking is how can we help my listeners into, I don't know, everyone turns to me for like, Hey, what should I put on? It's like, I don't know, just build a following. Do you have advice for them?Taylor Lorenz:Everyone asked me the same thing, and I'm like, I wish it was easy. If I could give you a three step thing, we would all have millions of followers. I mean, a huge part is consistency, which is very hard. And I have to say, you post forever. You can't get obsessed with the views because people just quit and they feel like, oh, if you have an audience of 500 people, that really matters. It is very much about creating more of a community of people, and it is scale. So I think it's just, that's so valuable, and it also matters who's following you, rather than just getting random views. You want influential or interesting or whatever type of market you're trying to go for. You want the right people to follow you.Michael Jamin:Well, this is something that I was always perplexed at the beginning of TikTok, so I guess both of them, but on TikTok, you have followers that are, I get all these followers. I'm like, but if I have all these followers and only a 10th of them are seeing an average post or less, what's the point? Why? Why do I keep track of this metric? Why do they have the metric of followers if they don't show it to your followers?Taylor Lorenz:The way that I explain TikTok is following is just one signal to the algorithm. It's one signal out of probably thousands. And so it's useful. It's like, I have an affinity to this person. Obviously, you follow people too. Then you're mutuals, and then you can DMM with each other more, or comment. Sometimes you can put videos to Mutuals only. So there is a value, I think, in following, but most of people's experience is of consuming content on TikTok is obviously through the for you page. So I wouldn't even, followers doesn't matter that much, right?Michael Jamin:It doesn't.Taylor Lorenz:And also it's like, again, it goes back to who is following you. There's so many creators that people always wonder this with press, because people are like, why? How do I get written about? And it's really not about how big you are. It's like, do you have something new and interesting, or have you cultivated some sort of unique audience that maybe hasn't been served before? Things like that. So you don't have to be the biggest,Michael Jamin:Well, I say this, there's this one guy, I'm trying to remember his name, but he has a show, he's sold a show somewhere. I should know his name, but it was a Twitter feed, and he was just writing, he had a thriller. So every day he posts a little different line from this thriller he was writing. Oh, cool. And then it just blew up because it's mystery and suspense, and people wanted to find out what was in the basement or whatever. Then he was able to, I was like, oh, that's a good idea. So he did it. And so I don't know. Are you following any other people who do anything like that?Taylor Lorenz:Twitter. Twitter. There was this period on Twitter where there were a lot of TV writers and comedians were trying things out there, and you could really get traction, and people were looking at Twitter. Now, no one's looking at that anymore. I would say it's much more TikTok and Instagram for comedy, and that's just where it is. But I mean, things people make, I mean, I was interested, this guy, Ari Kagan, who is kind of like a young director, content creator. He doesn't like to be called a content creator, but he just sold a show with Adam McKay, where they're making it for TikTok.Michael Jamin:They're making it for TikTok. Wait a minute, what does that mean?Taylor Lorenz:They're going to make it on TikTok. It's going to live on TikTok, I guess,Michael Jamin:But not as, what we do is some kind of different TikTok channel or something where it's long form.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, yeah, it's, hold on, let me find it. I want to actually get it right. Oh, yeah. Here. It's a series that they're making on TikTok. Hold on. It happened when I was, okay. I just put it in the chat. Okay. Yeah, I think it's scripted. Yeah, it's a scripted series to run on TikTok.Michael Jamin:So you may or may not. That means you may or may not see it like we were just talkingTaylor Lorenz:About. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I guess they're hoping that it'll perform well. I'm sure they're going to put paid media behind it, butMichael Jamin:Oh, okay. Oh, okay. How interesting. Yeah, this whole thing is so you got to be honest, people are always saying, how do I break into Hollywood? And I'm thinking, well, you don't need to. You can do this on your own.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, Ari did a lot on his own initially. I think that's how a lot of people get in there, is they sort of start making their own little projects. I mean, one person that I think has done this really well, he is an actor. His name is Brian Jordan Alvarez. Do you know him?Michael Jamin:No.Taylor Lorenz:Oh my God.Michael Jamin:So I got to know who.Taylor Lorenz:Alright,Michael Jamin:Put him in the chat.Taylor Lorenz:I'm going to put him in the chat. He was an actor on Will and Grace and he was in Megan, and he is very funny. I'll put, oh, he has a Wikipedia now. He's big time. He's an actor, but it makes this really amazing content. And he started making music online and these series online and I think it's like helped him a lot. I mean, everyone knows who he is now. He's been in Time Magazine and stuff, and it's mostly from his, he made this YouTube series a while ago that was popular, and then his tiktoks took off and he started making music. But it's like,Michael Jamin:All right, I got to follow this guy. You're sayingTaylor Lorenz:He's very funny, but it's just raised his profile a lot. I think what he does on the internet, and he does it in a really fun way. And I listened to him on a podcast recently, and he was just saying how it's led to more people kind of knowing his work, and obviously people see his work and then they want to work with you.Michael Jamin:Right. Do you have a podcast yet?Taylor Lorenz:Careful.Michael Jamin:Maybe I might tune.Taylor Lorenz:We'll see, I had one and then the New York Times made me quit it. The Times is crazy about outside projects, so I quitMichael Jamin:It. Oh, really? Hope that the post is not as, maybe they don't.Taylor Lorenz:They're better. That's why I work there now.Michael Jamin:Wow. You got your hand in so many different things. Yeah. I don't know. I just thought you're absolutely fascinated because you are an expert, but you're also in it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Is it overwhelming for you?Taylor Lorenz:I think I have good boundaries because I mean, I'm grateful to be a millennial where I think it's harder for the 22 year olds today where everything, their whole social life is so enmeshed in the internet. I think I have a healthy distance from it, and I have friends that are just my friends that aren't internet.Michael Jamin:So your boundaries are basically how much time you're willing to invest every day on being online. And also justTaylor Lorenz:Like I have a very strong sense of self, and I think when you get on the internet, everybody tries to push you into doing things or making content or being like, oh, you should do this, or, oh, you should do this. And I have always had a mind of, actually, I know what I want and I'm going to do this, and I'm just going to do only what I want. I know who I am if people, because it's hard on the internet and sometimes things perform well. So if I had continued to talk about my life, I think that probably would've performed well back when I was blogging, but I made the decision to just stop doingMichael Jamin:That. But you're right, if something's controversial, I try to steer away from controversy. I feel like I'm just here to talk about art and entertainment and writing and Hollywood, but I also know if I took a bigger stand on things and pissed people off, it would go viral. But then what's the point of this? I don't know.Taylor Lorenz:Then you get all these haters. I've written a lot of political stories that have to do with the content creator world and the political ecosystem, and so those are some of my most viral stories. But I have to say, it just gets you a lot of people that then follow you. They feel like, oh yeah, she's on our side on this, or whatever, or, oh, I hate her. She wrote about this content creator that. So I think it's just better to just be true to yourself. Yeah,Michael Jamin:Though I did a post couple, maybe when I first started off and it went, somehow Yahoo picked up on it and I was on Yahoo Entertainment News. My first reaction was, oh no. You know what I'm saying? Oh no. People know about me. It felt wrong. I don't know. I was like, I don't want people knowing about me.Taylor Lorenz:I know. It feels really, I mean, I've struggled with that a lot, and I actually really like being in LA for this reason. I was thinking just the past few years, more and more people start to know who you are and start writing about you, and that is such a mind fuck. I used to really believe, oh, every journalist is so great and they only have the best interests at heart of, and that is just not true. Unfortunately, there's a lot of places that just aggregate things for clicks and whatever, or they're very partisan in certain ways, and yeah, it's very hard. I used to run around trying to correct people. I tried to correct my own Wikipedia page, and then now I'm like, I gave up on all of that. I don't care.Michael Jamin:See, that's something I still frightens me a little bit is when people will stitch me or they'll make me the face of whatever argument they want. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Keep me out of it. I never said any of this. I didn't sign up for that. This is your thing. I know that frightens me a little bit,Taylor Lorenz:I think, because everybody uses each other as characters online, and so it's like you're the main character. Then you just use all these other people around you as supporting characters and whatever you're trying to do on the internet,Michael Jamin:I thinkTaylor Lorenz:Really, butMichael Jamin:Well, that's what scared me about what you wrote in your book, but those people who just, they're whatever, they gossip about other tiktoks like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This just feels so wrong to me. Just do your own thing.Taylor Lorenz:I know.Michael Jamin:Don't try to cancel me. What are you doing?Taylor Lorenz:I know my first job in media was at the Daily Mail, and it was such a great training ground for media because tabloid news is just so relentless, and

“The creatures outside looked from influencer to human, and from human to influencer, and from human to influencer again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”Taylor Lorenz, author of Extremely Online, takes Sarah on a horror- and nostalgia-filled ride through the last twenty years of internet history. Then we try to make sense of what our internet future will be. You can find Taylor online here.This episode was produced by Carolyn Kendrick.Support You're Wrong About:Bonus Episodes on PatreonBuy cute merchWhere else to find us:Sarah's other show, You Are Good[YWA co-founder] Mike's other show, Maintenance PhaseLinks:https://www.taylorlorenz.com/https://www.carolynkendrick.com/https://www.teepublic.com/stores/youre-wrong-abouthttps://www.paypal.com/paypalme/yourewrongaboutpodhttps://www.podpage.com/you-are-goodSupport the show

The Washington Post tech columnist Taylor Lorenz talks to host Ben Brock Johnson about her new book, Extremely Online, where she argues that we've been paying too much attention to the Elon Musks of the world, and not enough to everyday internet users.

Taylor Lorenz is a writer, tech journalist and columnist for the Washington Post. Her new book is is Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence and Power on the Internet. The book tells the often messy and constantly evolving story of social media and the creator economy that's been building since the early 2000s to the present day. Host of this conversation is Conor Boyle, Senior Producer for Intelligence Squared. If you'd like to get access to all of our longer form interviews and members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events - Our member-only newsletter The Monthly Read, sent straight to your inbox ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series ... Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content, early access and much more ... Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taylor's book is wonderfully fun and insightful! I could've spend days asking her questions about the internet and our weird cultures, so hopefully you'll enjoy us nerding out about internet history and lore! Follow Taylor: https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA== ----- Help keep this podcast going ad free by supporting by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/SchizoReads Podcast Audio by Tone Support. Find more information: https://tone.support/ ------ Buy the books from this podcast (affiliate): Bookshop.org: https://bookshop.org/lists/schizophrenic-reads-podcast-books Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/shop/schizophrenicreadsnathan/list/2RA9JZOAJ0UBW?ref_=cm

Does the Internet fundamentally hate women?Social media platforms can be a battleground, often subjecting women to harsh criticism and verbal violence. And no one knows that better than tech reporter, author and general Internet bad ass Taylor Lorenz. Taylor has been called a lot of things online.She has been lauded as one of the nation's preeminent tech reporters for places like the New York Times and the Washington Post. She has also been called the scum of the Earth. Told she was ugly. Told she was stupid. She once received a comment that said. "I hope you cry yourself to sleep every night. I hope you take your own life. I hope you live all your days in fear. You are the scum of the Earth. Why are you still breathing?”This kind of online harassment is not unique to Taylor. Women are constantly subjected to it online. Female influencers, female journalists, any woman who dares to have an opinion about just about anything.The Internet is a nasty and toxic place to be a woman. It is even nastier if you are a person who is extremely online, which is the title of Taylor's latest book. Extremely Online in which she chronicles the rise of social media's power and influence and doesn't shy away from the dark places it has taken all of us.I got to chat with Taylor about what it is like being a woman who is extremely online and covering communities that are extremely online. We dove into all of it from her public feud with Fox News' former resident woman hater Tucker Carlson to Gamer-gate to why TikTok isn't going anywhere any time soon.Grab your copy of Taylor's book EXTREMELY ONLINE here.

A lot of people give credit to Justin Hall for being, if not the first, then spiritually, at least, the “first” blogger. Since early 1994, first as Justin's Homepage and at various points, as Justin's Links from the Underground and Links.net, Justin Hall has been writing online and sharing online—especially, sharing himself online—longer than almost anyone else on the planet. Hear his story today, and watch his documentary at: http://overshare.links.net/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today Jen's guest is Taylor Lorenz, author of the new book, Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet. Together they discussed many topics including the controversy around mommy bloggers and the credit due to Julia Allison and other women social media pioneers. Taylor Lorenz is the sometimes controvesial, never boring  technology columnist for the business section of the Washington Post, covering online culture and the content creator industry. She was previously a reporter for the New York Times and has written for numerous other publications including New York magazine and Rolling Stone. Taylor frequently appears on NBC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and the BBC. She was a 2019 Knight Visiting Nieman Fellow at Harvard University.  In 2020, Taylor helped adapt a feature she wrote for the New York Times into the documentary Who Gets To Be An Influencer?, which ran on FX and Hulu.  The New York Times said Extremely Online “aims to tell a sociological story, not a psychological one, and in its breadth it demonstrates a new cultural logic emerging out of 21st-century media chaos.”  The Washington Post said Taylor is  “Infectious in celebrating the tsunami of creative youth culture ... Lorenz gives us a clear and compelling history of how the money came to flow into amateur-made short video content. Contact Booked Up: You can email Jen & the Booked Up team at: BOOKEDUP@POLITICON.COM or by writing to:  BOOKED UP  P.O. BOX 147 NORTHAMPTON, MA 01061 Get More from Taylor Lorenz Website | Author of EXTREMELY ONLINE More from Jen Taub: Money & Gossip  Substack | Author of BIG DIRTY MONEY 

balance is so important in personal life but it also plays a MASSIVE ROLE in business and entrepreneurship. Everything finds equilibrium after some time and it's the same with the creator economy. On today's episode of the podcast, I sit down with author and The Washington Post columnist Taylor Lorenz. We discuss her new book "Extremely Online", the realities of being a social media influencer, and the evolving world of social media and the internet. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/garyvee/message

We are leaning into Halloween this week! Taylor Lorenz, Washington Post columnist and author of Extremely Online, and Margaret Willison, culture writer and faculty at Not Sorry Productions, dared to join us to discuss the very tall, very viral Halloween decorations named Skelly and Lewis, along with more Halloween nonsense. Then, comedian Sam Reece tells us about her new book S****y Craft Club: A Club for Gluing Beads to Trash, Talking about Our Feelings, and Making Silly Things. You can find photos of Lewis and Liza Lou's kitchen at our website.]]>

In this episode of Remarkable People, join host Guy Kawasaki as he engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Taylor Lorenz, an acclaimed technology reporter for The Washington Post and author of Extremely Online. Lorenz has spent two decades documenting the profound impact of internet culture on society. Her debut book, Extremely Online, serves as the magnum opus of Internet history, revealing how influencers and creators have disrupted our world. Lorenz explores how early mommy bloggers monetized personal brands online, teen selfie stars redefined fame, and TikTok creators forged new career paths outside traditional pipelines. These seemingly fleeting trends represent significant economic and social transformations in the 21st century. Join us as Lorenz provides an insider's perspective on the internet's role in enabling creators to amass followings that confer lucrative influence. Plus, discover how a Twitter ban in December 2022 only added to her street cred. Don't miss this enlightening conversation on the evolution of the digital landscape.Guy Kawasaki is on a mission to make you remarkable. His Remarkable People podcast features interviews with remarkable people such as Jane Goodall, Marc Benioff, Woz, Kristi Yamaguchi, and Bob Cialdini. Every episode will make you more remarkable. With his decades of experience in Silicon Valley as a Venture Capitalist and advisor to the top entrepreneurs in the world, Guy's questions come from a place of curiosity and passion for technology, start-ups, entrepreneurship, and marketing. If you love society and culture, documentaries, and business podcasts, take a second to follow Remarkable People. Listeners of the Remarkable People podcast will learn from some of the most successful people in the world with practical tips and inspiring stories that will help you be more remarkable. Episodes of Remarkable People organized by topic: https://bit.ly/rptopology Listen to Remarkable People here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/guy-kawasakis-remarkable-people/id1483081827 Like this show? Please leave us a review -- even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter handle so we can thank you personally! Thank you for your support; it helps the show!

Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz) is the person who told you what “cheugy” means, what a “content house” is, and basically anything else you want to know about young people, the social media they use, and the people who make that media. Now the Washington Post journalist has a book out explaining all of this: “Extremely Online”, which is a history of social media told from the POV of the influencers/creators who made social media work. She talks to Vox's Peter Kafka about the often contentious relationship between creators and platforms, how even Mr. Beast lives and dies by the algorithm, and how “don't feed the trolls” is actually terrible advice. Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Most histories of social media focus on Big Tech: the inventors, the investors and the innovations they made. But Washington Post columnist Taylor Lorenz writes in her new book “Extremely Online” that “tech founders may control the source code, but users shape the product.” Providing a “social history of social media,” Lorenz looks at how influencers — the content creators, bloggers and uploaders who amassed followings just from their online posts — drove change on the platforms we use and guide how we post today. We'll talk with Lorenz about the influence of influencers. Guests: Taylor Lorenz, columnist covering technology and online culture, The Washington Post; author, "Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet"

In this episode of The Accidental Creative, we sit down with Taylor Lorenz, author of the book Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet. Taylor discusses the revolutionary impact of the social Internet and how it has disrupted traditional notions of fame and power. We dive into the early days of e-celebrities, the evolution of platforms like YouTube and TikTok, and the current state of monetization for content creators. Taylor shares her insights on the maturity of these platforms and her predictions for their future trajectory. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how these forms of media are impacting society.Key Learnings from this Episode:1. The rise of the social Internet has upended traditional notions of fame and power.2. Early e-celebrities struggled to monetize their online presence, but now there are more opportunities for content creators.3. Platforms like YouTube and TikTok were initially dismissed as novelties but have since become influential forces in our culture and society.4. The maturation of these platforms has led to better monetization options for creators.5. It's important to recognize the underestimated potential of emerging platforms and understand their impact.Get three quick ideas to start your week off right. Subscribe to 3 Things at ToddHenry.com/subscribe.Mentioned in this episode:Please Support Our Sponsors:Indeed: Indeed is an unbelievably powerful hiring platform. Join more than 3 million businesses worldwide that use Indeed to hire great talent fast. Visit indeed.com/creative to get started today. Shopify: Shopify is the commerce platform revolutionizing millions of businesses worldwide. Now it's your turn to get serious about selling and try Shopify today. Sign up for a $1 per month trial at shopify.com/accidentalcreative.

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Taylor Lorenz is an author and journalist at The Washington Post, who writes about internet culture and the tech world. Her new book "Extremely Online" will be out this Tuesday, October 3rd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the past 20 years, the Internet has developed a culture of its own. And one woman who has been at the forefront is Taylor Lorenz, a Tech Journalist, Content Creator, and the Author of the new book “Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet.” With the distinction of being recognized as one of Fortune's 40 Under 40 leaders in Media and Entertainment, Taylor possesses a deep understanding of how digital culture has shaped our lives. Today, she shares:   Starting out as a female tech reporter (one of the ONLY ones) Online Harassment + navigating a male-dominated landscape The most impactful influencers (and how they changed culture) Predicting digital trends + platforms  TikTok and her vision for the app's future evolution Addressing and dispelling a popular TikTok conspiracy theory The pivotal moment when the unique culture of the internet became evident How Tumblr (an OG social media platform) exposed her to a new community of people Dissecting the power and misconceptions surrounding influencers Unpacking the profound impact of AI-driven algorithms Her predictions about the trajectory of AI technology and what users want Her thoughts on Threads - is it here to stay? Reclaiming autonomy from the grip of social media platforms Her thoughts on the idea of content creators uniting in a collective effort   Follow Taylor on Instagram @taylorlorenz and preorder her book Extremely Online, here!

WEDNESDAY!! You guys, I'm so thrilled to have Taylor Lorenz (@taylorlorenz) joins us today to talk all about her new book Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet! Pre order now at extremlyonlinebook.com out october 3rd! This book takes us behind the scenes, from a users perspective, of this little thing called the internet. So many great stories in this book. I was rivted. Plus, we talk a little Vanderpump too! Also, my full review of the season premiere of Dancing with the Stars, Harry Hamlin in AARP magazine and Grief Watch 2023! Thanks for all your support! Also, this show and every show is dedicated to my beautiful mom Rebecca Ann Bailey-July 18th, 1948-August 25, 2023  Timestamps :41-Show Notes/Dancing with the Stars review, AARP magzine, grief watch 2023! 38:07-Taylor Lorenz!! -Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos -Go sign up for the patreon for over 250 episodes NOT on the main feed! patreon.com/sobaditsgood Also, So Bad It's Good has merch now! Go to www.sobaditsgoodmerch.com to order yours TODAY! If you're enjoying the insane amount of blood, sweat and literal tears of this pod consider telling a friend or rating us 5 stars on iTunes! Special shoutout to Maritza Lopez (Insta: @maritza.gif) for all of her insanely hard work creating these beautiful pieces of art on my instagram and patreon page!!  Instagram: @sobaditsgoodwithryanbailey, @ryanbailey25 Twitter:@ryanabailey25 TIKTOK @sobaditsgoodwithryanb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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