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BOSSes Anne Ganguza and Tolupe Kolade, a leading voice from Nigeria's vibrant voiceover scene, connect to explore the sonic tapestry of Africa's storytelling. They unpack Tolupe's experiences building a career and community within a dynamic market, offering a window into the unique challenges and triumphs of voice acting on the continent. Listeners will discover the crucial role of genuine expression in connecting with audiences, gain understanding of the industry's growth in Africa, and appreciate the power of shared narratives across borders. Anne and Tolupe also discuss practical pathways for aspiring voice talent and the evolving nature of the global voice landscape.   00:01 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) Anne changed my life a few years ago while coaching me for my commercial demo. Since then, I've been traveling throughout Europe and the UK and I never miss a VO Boss podcast. It's just how I start my Wednesday, no matter what country I'm in. I love that I can stay connected with her and continue to learn about VO even from across the pond. Love you, Anne.  00:23 - Speaker 4 (Ad) Hey guys, it's that season again. Are you feeling that tickle in your throat? Don't let a cold or flu slow you down. Combat your symptoms early with Vocal Immunity Blast, a simple and natural remedy designed to get you back to 100% fast. With certified therapeutic grade oils like lemon to support respiratory function, oregano for immune-boosting power and a protective blend that shields against environmental threats, your vocal health is in good hands. Take charge of your health with Vocal Immunity Blast. Visit anganguza.com to shop.  01:00 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level. These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a boss a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguza.  01:22 - Anne (Host) Hey, hey guys, welcome to the VO Boss podcast. I'm your host, Anne Ganguza, and today I am honored to have a very special guest with me today, all the way from Nigeria, Tolupe Kolade, also known as T-Code, which is such a cool, I love that name. He is a Nigerian voiceover artist, podcaster and coach, and a 2024 Sova's Award nominee for Outstanding Commercial Best African Voiceover. As the creator of Nigeria's first voiceover podcast, Everything Voiceover's, the African Perspective, and the creative partner of the Association of African Podcasters and Voice Artists, APVA, T-Code champions the African voiceover industry, mentoring new talents and collaborating with top brands to bring impactful storytelling to life. I love that. I love that so much. T-code, it is so nice to have you on the show. Finally.  02:13 - Tolupe (Guest) Finally, Thank you so much.  02:15 Anne.  02:16 It's been years of listening to you over the seas and I can't express how excited I am right now to share the same podcast with you being a guest. Oh my God, I feel so great.  02:29 - Anne (Host) Well, I'll tell you what. You sent me, oh my gosh, years ago, a really lovely audio testimonial about my podcast. And I just recently if obviously you've been listening to the podcast, you know that I never really did any ads or anything and I finally decided, gosh, I should do some ads for my own podcast for however many years. And so I started featuring some of the audio testimonials from people, and I featured yours and then, all of a sudden, I got flagged in this amazing video that you created for me and bosses out there, if you ever want to do a testimonial that will get the attention of a potential client right, this is a very boss move. I love this .T-code Create a lovely video that does a nice shout out, that expresses gratitude, and it was a lovely video and I was so touched that you took the time to create a video and, by the way, the production value was just amazing.  03:20  kudos on the production value of that. I mean it was insane, and I was just so excited that you were excited and I wanted to talk to you. I mean, with all these accomplishments, you are quite a VO boss, and so I was only too happy to ask if you would be on the show, and my apologies because bosses out there. I don't know about this time zone slash day but I completely messed up the first time that we were supposed to get together, so I'm just so glad that we're finally here.  03:48 So glad to have you on the show.  03:50 - Tolupe (Guest) Thank you so much.  03:51 - Anne (Host) Yeah, so let's talk about your start in voiceover, because I think a lot of bosses here we know what happens in our own little bubble here, but it's difficult to really find out what's going on in other countries. And how is voiceover? How is it doing in Africa? And you're championing it. So I think it's a wonderful start to talk about how you got started.  04:14 - Tolupe (Guest) Okay, so I'm going to talk about how I got started and then we talk about the industry in Africa. I got started officially in 20. So there was the 2016 version of me getting into voiceovers and there was the 2016 version of me getting into voiceovers and there was the 2020 version of me getting into voiceovers In 2016. It was more of broadcasting. As a broadcaster, I worked on radio and that was where I got introduced to the world of recording audio.  04:40 Prior to that time, well, even while I was in university because I graduated from the university in 2015, I did a bit of radio stuff and that was actually the first time that I would do a voiceover. I wasn't a presenter at the time, but someone heard my voice and said, oh, would you like to come to the university radio station? Which I said okay, yes, I did. And I got there and they said oh, said oh, okay, what stuff have you got? So the radio station's name was something around Versity Radio at the time and I just said you're listening to Versity Radio, something around that, and they were like whoa, that was great and they allowed me do the voiceovers for the radio station, the audio branding and all of that at the time, but then I wasn't schooled about voiceover. I didn't really know what it was, so I continued my radio journey.  05:29 2016. I would go to other radio stations and do the same thing for the radio stations and the presenters on the radio. Then, 2017, I started understanding what voiceover was because I was officially working on radio at this time.  05:43 - Anne (Host) Did you have your own radio  at this time, and did you have your own shows at that time? 05:47 - Tolupe (Guest) Yeah, I had a show on radio, but I was more on tv because the establishment was a tv and radio station combined. Okay, so I was doing more of tv, but they would call me to do some of the promos for some radio and tv shows and I would do all of those at a time. But I still didn't understand what voiceover was until fast forward to 2019. I was working in another radio station. The demand for my voice had increased and some money started coming in, but very little at the time. So I started getting curious to how the industry in voiceover was at the time. So I started asking questions, I took online courses and 2020 was when I got into voiceover officially. So there were different versions of that.  06:40 But late 2019, I took a bold step to find anybody who would need my voice on the internet. So I went on youtube and I found some youtube channels by africans who were doing voiceovers on their youtube channel as to narrate stories on the youtube channel. But they weren't professional voiceover artists. But compared to what I was doing at the time, I could read better. So I would respectfully reach out to them and say Hi, I'm a radio presenter and a voiceover artist here in Nigeria and I don't know if you don't mind, I would love to record your voiceovers.  07:14 At the time I didn't have any idea of exactly how the industry worked, but I just wanted a platform somewhere to put my voice out there. So I reached out to a couple of youtubers and one of them reached back to me and was willing to offer me some stipend monthly for recording voiceovers for a channel, and that was how it started. So the moment I got to realize that I could earn a living from voiceovers and there was opportunity for me to improve and grow my skills, I took it so serious and I started looking for resources and I think it was 2020 and 2021,. I discovered your podcast and it was just a whole new height for me because I was connecting to the voiceover industry globally and that really just opened my mind to more about voiceover. So that's the story of how I got into this.  08:05 - Anne (Host) I love that. So prior to that you were full time in radio.  08:08 - Tolupe (Guest) Yes, radio and TV. I did that for about six years.  08:11 - Anne (Host) Got it. Got it Radio and TV. So where did we're going to fast forward to the podcast? Because you've been doing your podcast for a while now and now you realize that it's a labor of love. It is something that does require like a focused, like passion to creating content that goes out there on a consistent basis. Talk to me about what drew you into the podcast. Were there other podcasts, voiceover podcasts, let's say, specifically in your area, that talked about African voiceovers or voiceover in Nigeria? What prompted you?  08:43 - Tolupe (Guest) Okay, so my first foray into podcasting wasn't because I wanted to podcast at the time, and this was in 2019. So I was working on radio. I needed a medium to save my radio shows right, because people would listen. And radio is a medium yeah, radio is a medium where people just listen once and you can't rewind, you can't listen again on the go. So I had that program I was doing on radio and I wish to archive it. So I was looking for ways to do this on the internet for free, and that was how I stumbled on podcasting, because, of course, you could just upload an audio and it's there.  09:22 Right, right, right. So that was how I started I love that that's so interesting.  09:24 So that was how.  09:24 I started. I love that.  09:25 - Anne (Host) That's so interesting because I have to tell you that I wanted to get into radio but I wasn't, and so I said, well, let me create a podcast  09:32 So it's very interesting, and that was my radio. 09:36 - Tolupe (Guest) Oh yeah, it still feels like radio because I resigned from radio. In 2021 to face Voice of Us full time. Oh, okay, in 2021 to face voiceovers full time.  09:44 Oh, okay, yeah but back to the question of how the podcast came to be. So, prior to the time I was entering into the voiceover industry, there was no voiceover podcast that I had heard of. And 2020, I took a course at the voiceover workshop. That's one of the few voiceover training institutions we have in Nigeria, so I realized that there was more to this. People did this full time. There was an industry around this, so I was curious to know more. Podcasting was already getting more popular at the time, so it just made sense that there should be somebody on the internet podcasting about voiceover. So a friend shared a couple of podcasts and then I saw this article the top 10 voiceover podcasts in the world. Your podcast was a part of them, with a couple of other podcasters that I respect a lot.  10:37 - Anne (Host) Wow, I didn't even know that. That's awesome. 10:40 - Tolupe (Guest) Yeah, and then I checked it out and I just fell in love with it because the style of the presentation you were so real, so relatable. It felt like you were trying to help people, just groom them, feed them and you break down the stings. So I'd stalk to your podcast and I'd listen and listen. And I checked the African space. At the time there was only one lady from South Africa podcasting about voiceover and it was quite refreshing to find her at the time, but not in Nigeria. I didn't find anybody in Nigeria. So I wanted to start because I felt it would be so great for voiceover artists in Nigeria to share their stories.  11:22 So people can know what we're going through, because a lot of things needed to be restructured in the voiceover industry at the time, in my opinion. But there was nothing like that. So from 2020 the idea came, but I had this imposter syndrome because I was like, oh, you're just young into the industry, how do you expect to be the guy to host people and just talk about voiceovers? So I delayed the idea till 2022. And in 2022, nobody was doing it. I'm like, well, you have to do it. So I started the podcast. Prior to that time, I had the experience of podcasting. I'd worked on radio, I understood how to record a deed and put things together, upload a podcast. So I just took all of that knowledge and I started the Everything Voice of Us podcast, the African Perspective, which was for Africans, by Africans, to tell African stories.  12:16 - Anne (Host) I love that, you know. What's so interesting is that I don't know if it's a prerequisite or a requirement to be the expert if you want to start a podcast, because for me, I remember, before I started the podcast I started my VO Peeps group because I had moved across the country and I wanted to kind of get to know the people in my industry, and so I basically started to interview my heroes. I didn't necessarily present myself as the expert at anything, but I was absolutely interested in sharing resources and educating the community, and I think that that is a great way to look at any type of a podcast that you want to start out there, bosses, so that you can share and educate, and I think that is a really great angle to come upon it. And so I think for you, you do a lot of interviews in your podcast and I'm sure people are very eager to get their voices heard as well, and so it's kind of a win-win for both, for both of you?  13:15 - Tolupe (Guest) Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.  13:17 - Anne (Host) Yeah, what would you say has been your biggest I don't know your biggest takeaway from now starting and having a successful podcast. What would you say is your biggest takeaway from now starting and having a successful podcast. What would you say is your biggest takeaway?  13:29 What's your biggest gift from the podcast?  13:29 - Tolupe (Guest) That's a huge question, 13:30 - Anne (Host)  And what's the biggest challenge?  13:33 - Tolupe (Guest) Okay, so first the biggest gift from the podcast and then the biggest challenge.  13:38 I think the biggest gift from the podcast has been connecting me with the world.  13:43 Like the world is so big and there are people waiting to be heard and people wanting to hear more, so my biggest gift is that I've been able to connect with the world and share that network, or the stories that I learned across the way, with people.  14:02 Because of the podcast, a lot of people know me and because of the podcast I can also access a lot of people from different parts of Africa and even outside Africa, and it has helped me to grow such network that many prominent things happening in the voiceover and audio creative space in Africa. I am often involved in most of these things and it's just a very humbling experience for me. So the network is a powerful gift that I've gotten humbling experience for me, so the network is a powerful gift that I've gotten. I think the biggest challenge for podcasting, as you've said earlier, anne, is that it's a should I use the word thankless job, or it's a service, it's something it is. Yeah, it's a very sacrificial thing to do because literally I don't know how it works over there, but we don't get paid in Africa for podcasting.  14:52 - Anne (Host) No, we don't get paid here either, and to get sponsors is very difficult.  14:57 - Tolupe (Guest) It is. It is so. It's something that if you are not convinced, if you are not passionate and selfless, you're going to burn out real quick. So I have invested my time, my energy, my money into this. I had to create a team. I mean, for the first two seasons of the podcast, I was doing this independently and since, in theory, I took on some boss moves. To be honest, you inspired me as well on this episode you did, where you talked about podcasting and you I think it was the beginning of this year you said something about how much you spent on podcasting the previous year.  15:34 It's not cheap, was it like $15,000 or something. It was like $10,000 to $15,000,.  15:39 - Speaker 4 (Ad) Yeah, yeah, and when I heard that I'm like guy, you can do more. People at the top do a lot to get to where they are. So I decided, okay, I'm going to invest more into this. And they are. So I decided, okay, I'm going to invest more into this. And my focus was to help him build a better voice of our industry. That has always been my inspiration to doing many of the things that I do. So, yeah, that's my gift and the biggest challenge, the fact that you're just doing it on your own. But, yeah, it's still a blessing at the end of the day, Right?  16:10 - Anne (Host) Now you mentioned that you thought there needed to be restructuring or you were wanting to be active in restructuring the voiceover industry in Africa. Tell us a little bit more about that. How has it evolved and what do you want to do to restructure that?  16:24 - Tolupe (Guest) Interesting. So, interestingly enough, yesterday I had a conversation with one of the very respected voiceover artists in Nigeria top voiceover artist on my Instagram page where we talked about the evolution of voiceover in Nigeria and I see something very similar to that in Africa. Voiceover for the longest in Africa, has been heavily associated with broadcasting. I believe it's almost the same thing every other place, but the difference is that for a lot of African countries that I have observed, voiceover is still somewhat glued to broadcasting, meaning broadcasters are the ones who officially do voiceovers.  17:04 Not many people come to claim the career to be voiceover artists. It is still being viewed as a part-time side hustle, right. So when I was coming in, of course it started as a part-time stuff for me as well, but I met a few nigerian voice actors, like eric maximus, who I was just referencing, e, and a couple of people like that. These people stood out as full-time voice actors Chilu Lemba, you know, femi Bakes these are my colleagues and I was inspired and also, listening to you, I realized this was possible. So the things that I felt could be restructured is that I needed people to see this more as a business, more as an industry and, gracefully, some people as far back as 1999, 2000 in Nigeria had realized this is what we needed to do, so they created an association in Nigeria at the time called the Association of Voice Over Artists in Nigeria.  18:08 Oh, okay, yeah.  18:10 And this association has been for about 22 years. But unfortunately the growth of the association has seen a lot of challenges because technology came quicker the old era of voiceovers, where everybody had to go to physical studios with the agencies and directors and all of that had gone, but a lot of people here were stuck in that era. So the new era of having a home studio, you know, and working with international rates and how things are being done live sessions, directed ones these things were into the norm over here and I felt that we needed to do better. Our rates weren't standard, as it were, very low at the time when I came, and just the attitude of people towards voiceover is just like a side hustle. People didn't respect the craft. So these were the things that I wished could change.  19:06 Also, if you look at the American space, you had organizations that would fight for voiceover artists and you had resources for voiceover artists the coaches. There were people who had written books, there were award shows and things like that. We didn't have so much of those here. You hardly would find any book written by anybody about voiceover If you go to the internet, any book written by anybody about voiceover. If you go to the internet. There were no like very scanty.  19:35 So I felt like people needed to own this craft, people needed to build the industry, and I had to do what I had to do. There were a few companies, like training institutions that existed already at the time, so I just had had to contribute. I joined the association, joined another association called the African Association of Podcasters and Voice Actors, and together we started forming the policies and the building blocks, creating resources for voiceover artists, for podcasters in Africa, creating events like award shows. So we have the APVA Awards, we have webinars. We started creating these things and I must say it's been an interesting journey, a challenging one as well, but quite an interesting one since then.  20:17 - Anne (Host) Yeah, absolutely.  20:18 It's kind of like you're building it from the ground up, which I think is really amazing, and that is something that having knowledge of building things, being a kind of a pioneer in building things as the technology evolves and as our space voiceover industry grows.  20:33 It's a lot of thankless things, a lot of donation of your time, and so I think it's wonderful that you have really kind of gotten in on the ground floor so that you can help to develop policies and guidelines and then also you have a platform that's able to broadcast that out to the world.  20:51 And what I love is, and what I'm hoping, is that our connection here can also help you to be even more globally known, because that, of course, as I mentioned multiple times on my show, the podcast actually cost me money, but it also gives me a lot back in terms of people know who I am, lot back in terms of people know who I am, and so I think we know, and I think you must also know, that that is one of the most important things when you're trying to get your voice out there and when you're trying to become known as a business as well, so that you can survive full-time on voiceover.  21:23 Would you say that you are able to survive full-time on voiceover now, or is it still something that you are building? I know that it took me a few years to do that and you've been working already at it for a few years. Is it something that is a realistic goal for, let's say, I have been thriving as a voiceover artist full-time and I have colleagues who are also doing the same full-time, but we're not so many compared to the US, and the reason for?  22:01 - Tolupe (Guest) If you look at those of us who are doing voiceovers full-time, we are multi-skilled. We are able to record, we're able to edit and produce, we understand acoustics, we have learned about voiceover, we understand marketing as well. So it takes all of the skills to be able to stand and say, oh, I'll do voiceovers full-time, but majority aren't able to do that. Also, looking at the economic challenges and the reality surrounding what it takes to be a full-time voiceover artist, where in a country and largely in many parts of the continent, we don't have stable electricity, so you could be working and you run out of power, and that affects your work, especially if you're In your livelihood.  22:48 Exactly Right. So there's also the challenge of being able to erect or build a home studio for yourself, and also the fact that the equipment could be very expensive. Looking at our exchange rate, when we convert this equipment that costs some maybe $500 or $200 into Naira, whatever currency, it's a lot. So it's very challenging to decide to go full-time into voiceover, but for the few of us who are able to do it, it's also rewarding, especially and I must say, the fact that we get to work with clients out of Nigeria, especially clients from the us, using platforms like voice one, two, three and other pay-to-play sites. They open us up to opportunities with foreign clients and getting paid in dollars has its own advantage. So, yes, it's quite rewarding to work as a full-time voiceover artist, but it's also very challenging for a lot of us.  23:48 - Anne (Host) So what would be your best advice? That you would give aspiring voiceover talents in Nigeria Africa if they're looking to get into the industry. 23:57 - Tolupe (Guest) All right. So for people who are looking to get into the industry, the first thing that I recommend they do is to acquire knowledge. A lot of people still think, oh, you could just record voiceovers on your phone and I'm like, no, it doesn't work that way. So you need to learn, and I'm grateful that we have voiceover institutions in Nigeria and also other parts of Africa. We've got one in South Africa. That's the South Africa Voiceover Academy. In Nigeria, we have Voiceover Workshop Voiceover Academy. There are a couple of them and they've been able to come together to gather the body of knowledge needed for young voice artists to start. So I recommend. Second thing I recommend is podcasts. Listening to podcasts helps to develop the required skill in a sense, because you're listening to experts in the field. Now, I've been learning from you for many years and we had never met and it's been free, so that's the beautiful thing about podcasts.  25:01 It is a beautiful thing, isn't it? Yeah, it's absolutely free.  25:05 So I encourage people because you might not be able to afford hundreds of dollars to have Anganguza or any other top voiceover artists, so listen to podcasts. I recommend that as well. The third thing is to practice and take the big step, because I've also been coaching people in voiceover for a while. I realized that oftentimes they come, they train but they don't implement. There's this fear and imposter syndrome of calling yourself a voiceover artist. They hardly make the bold steps, they don't do demos and put themselves out there. They're waiting to be perfect, they're waiting to get it all figured out. So they compare themselves to someone like me or other colleagues of mine or people ahead of me and they're like I don't have what it takes, I don't sound like you just yet. So I always encourage them Start now, when nobody even really knows you so much. Make the mistakes Grow, because we all started somewhere. We didn't start perfect. So these are the things that I'll encourage them.  26:07 - Anne (Host) And I also think and this is kind of my big thing when I have students that say, well, I don't sound like I'm not there yet I'm like in reality and I think you must know, because you've had such a lengthy experience in being on camera and also in radio and podcasts when you connect with someone, nobody's really listening to how you.  26:27 I mean, yeah, we can sound good, but in reality that is only like a temporary, fleeting thing, that, okay, it sounds good, it sounds clear, I understand you, but when we connect, we connect on an emotional level and that really comes into the storytelling, that comes into that point of view that we're able to express. And I think that podcasting helps us to do that, like, especially if it's a conversation between you and I. But I use those skills in my voiceover to connect with that theoretical client and that's really where it becomes the most important. So how important would you say the connection in storytelling is for, let's say, the current trend and styles that are happening in your area? I mean because globally, I think we all need to be able to tell stories. But I'm just curious in terms of locally, when people hire you, are they hiring you for that big, deep, booming voice? Or are they also hiring you for that storytelling capability?  27:18 - Tolupe (Guest) That's a very good question, because in the continent, especially in Nigeria, I'm going to take Nigeria we have been very influenced by the Western cultures the things we see from movies in hollywood, the cartoons that we've seen growing up, so these has heavily influenced how we tell our stories in the media. There's still a lot of true storytelling, I must say, but when people think about voiceover, a lot of young people think about Disney, they think about all the Cartoon Network stuff and what that affects is the accent. So they're tempted to want to sound like the kids they watched growing up. They think that's what voiceover is. And it doesn't mean that's not what voiceover isn't. It just means the people you see on your screens.  28:14 They're telling stories that are relatable to them. It's their local stories. The animation you watch, even though it's fiction, but the communication, the nuances, you know all of those expressions. They're very akin to wherever they come from. Over here there's a way we tell our stories, the way we crack our jokes, the lingua. It's very local. So it's a lot of work to try to explain to upcoming talents that see, your accent is good enough yourself.  28:50 The way you sound is good enough. It's good enough you are enough.  28:54 You don't have to sound like barbie. You don't have to sound like right.  28:58 - Anne (Host) I'm so glad that you like this. It gets me emotional actually. I'm so glad that you like this. It gets me emotional actually, because I'm so glad that you said that, because it's important for not just locally you, it's important for us, it's important for the world to hear those stories. Right, it's important for us to understand you and how you tell stories, because it may be different than how I tell the story, but it's certainly very interesting to me.  29:19 You know what I mean.  29:25 And it's something that I feel I could benefit from hearing and I could enjoy it and it could be educational, it can be entertaining and I think just getting that experience and that culture and that storytelling is so important to a global audience.  29:35 Yes, absolutely, which I?  29:36 think is important to your business, which?  29:38 is so important to your business, so I think for anyone and I love how you talk about the imposter syndrome, which I think we all have.  29:44 I think that's a global thing, right? Everybody has imposter syndrome I still think, at the very heart of it, the fact that we can share and that we can communicate and we can connect with one another, that is something that is very much wanted and desired.  30:03 It may not be, as, let's say, marketable in certain places yet. Right, because even in America there's a lot of places that say they want the conversational connection, but yet a lot of times what you hear on television turns out to be something different because of whoever's directing you, whoever is hiring what they hear in their head. Right, Because they could have grown up with those kind of announcer kind of broadcast sort of sound and that's who ended up directing you and that's how the commercial sounds or that's how whatever it is that you're doing sounds. But I do believe that when it comes to people that really want that connection, that engagement with their brand, that they're going to hopefully continually go more and more into the storytelling aspect and it becomes less about your voice and more about how you can reach that person that's listening to you at the other end of the mic in reality.  30:52 So, yeah, I think it's all about the connection. So let's talk a little bit about any type of, let's say, memorable story or project that showcased your unique storytelling. Is there anything that you can talk about that is out there on a global level that can really speak to your unique storytelling?  31:14 - Tolupe (Guest) Now that you say memorable, I've done a couple of voiceovers for different brand. I think the most recent that I did was for coca-cola. So I've done a couple of voiceovers for different brands. I think the most recent that I did was for Coca-Cola, so I've done a couple of them. I think the two most memorable would be getting cast on one of the biggest animations to come out of Nigeria, which would actually be out next year, 2025. And that animation is called Iyanu. It's going to be on Cartoon Network on.  31:42 Showmatch in Africa. So I'm one of the cast and it was such an honor to be on that because it's not just a cartoon for the world to enjoy, but it captures African stories. The entire cast were Nigerian, so we spoke the true Nigerian accent. It was quite a mix of traditional and youth, friendly and young. You know all of that, so I'm happy to be on that. I play a character called Shiju, which people would come to find out much more about later. Then the other one would be.  32:16 Recently I did a voiceover for a friend. She started this podcast and I recorded the voiceover and I just something about that voiceover stood out for me. It's on a podcast anyway, so, um, it's memorable to me personally. It's not like it's for a global brand of some sort, but it's just something that when I think about that particular voiceover maybe because the way I read it it was just so real and I just felt everything in that script Very powerful story, very touching experience. It's titled the First and Last Time I Saw my Parents Dance and that story was just so powerful. So, yeah, that works for me too. It's on podcasts and platforms.  33:02 - Anne (Host) Awesome. Well, I'll be connecting those links up in the show notes for any of those bosses that are looking for more information. So tell us what's next for you Any exciting projects on the way or other goals that you're working toward. Any other associations you're going to pioneer. Any other associations you're going to?  33:21 - Tolupe (Guest)  Next up for me is my youtube channel. Already I have the podcast running on youtube, but I am planning on creating a youtube channel where I talk more about voiceover extensively, particularly for Nigerians and africans my extension, so that is going to be coming up next year. I also am working on some online courses. Although right now I teach voiceovers, I mentor people one-on-one. I also teach voiceovers with other voiceover institutions of learning in Nigeria, but I realized that there's a lot of demand out there and I can't always be physically there to teach over and over and over. It's very demanding. So I'm putting together an online course that will be available, and my website is also in the works. So by January 2025, everything will be ready. So these are the things I'm working on.  34:13 - Anne (Host) Well, that's quick, that's like next month. Yeah, I love it. So tell our bosses where they can find you, where they can learn more about you. Follow you on socials.  34:25 - Tolupe (Guest) Okay, so my Instagram handle is tcode70. That's T-C-O-D-E underscore 70. My YouTube channel is I am tcode70. So you can find me on YouTube and on TikTok I'm also tcode underscore 70 TikTok. Tcode underscore 70. On X, which is formerly Twitter, my website will be out really soon will be, I mean, launched so my website is iamtcode.com Iamtcode.com.  34:57 - Anne (Host) Love it, love it. And that's coming January, January 25. So now I'm hoping that I myself am releasing a new website that is supposed to be out in January of 2025 as well. So it's just a little refresh of my brand.  35:10 So  oh my gosh, it has been so much fun chatting with you and I am keeping my fingers crossed for Sunday, which is coming up in a few days, to find out about that Sova's nomination. But the way I feel if you're nominated award nominated is just as good as award winning in my book, and actually even that is subjective. But yeah, my fingers are crossed for you and I'll be listening. I've got a couple nominations myself that I'm going to be you know. We'll see if that works out and in the meantime, it has been such a pleasure chatting with you and I want to actually check up with you next year again so that we can reconnect and see what other amazing things you've done, because you are definitely a VO boss for sure, and it's been a pleasure chatting with you today.  35:56 - Tolupe (Guest)  you so much, and it's been a pleasure chatting with you too, and thank you for inspiring me and millions of others, because, yeah, a lot of people are still going to listen to this. Podcast is a platform that people can listen to many years to come, so thank you so much, Anne.  36:12 - Anne (Host) No problem, all right, I'm going to give a great big shout out to our sponsor, ipdtl. You too can connect and network like bosses, like Tico to myself. Find out more at IPDTLcom. Bosses, have an amazing week and we'll see you next week. Bye, bye.  36:28 - Speaker 3 (Announcement) Join us next week for another edition of VO Boss with your host, Anne Ganguza, and take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at VOobosscom and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies and new ways to rock your business like a boss. Redistribution with permission. Coast to coast connectivity via IPDTL.   

I'm so excited to welcome Amy A. O'Day, the founder of The Reconnected Self. Amy is the creator of Compassionate Self-Healing (CSH), a powerful modality designed to help people reconnect with their true selves and find lasting emotional and physical balance. Through The Reconnected Self, she offers practitioner training and deeply transformative 1:1 work. Her approach is in high demand—there's currently a two-year waitlist for 1:1 sessions and her business continues to expand with certified CSH Practitioners.Highlights include:How Amy switched off lifelong autoimmune conditions Why your beliefs about what's possible play a key role in your healingUnlocking the messaging behind your physical and emotional imbalancesWhy 80% of autoimmune conditions are in women Hidden blindspots that most people miss in their healing and how these can link with being an empathThe body's recognition of fear and why we experience anxietyHow regulating your nervous system (no matter how helpful) isn't the final switch for definitive healing and what isDifferent types of boundary challenges you might have and be completely unaware of as practitioner or clientHealing complex chronic illness by addressing disempowerment woundsHow healing opens the door to personal growth and becoming your most authentic self Host: Livy IasonosFollow Livy on InstagramWork with LivyGuest: Amy A O'DayFollow Amy on InstagramCheck out Amy's WebsiteFollow Amy on TikTokI'd be so grateful if you could take a moment to subscribe, share and leave a review so that more people can make their unique mark on the world.All my love,Livy xx

Welcome to our first Budget Travel Special! This is one that you, the listeners, have been asking for a lot - and I get it! Travel can feel expensive and overwhelming, but what if I told you that it really doesn't have to be?That's why I knew I had to bring on the ultimate budget travel expert - someone who has made it her mission to help people travel smarter, stretch their money further, and still enjoy incredible experiences, Chelsea Dickenson, aka the Cheap Holiday Expert.Chelsea has built a huge following all thanks to her easy-to-follow, no-nonsense travel hacks. You've probably seen her viral videos on how to snag the best hotel upgrades, fly for less, or even go on an amazing holiday for under £100. And if you're a fan of This Morning, you'll recognise her as their go-to expert for low-cost travel. She's also the co-host of Passports Please, the travel podcast that helps you hack your holidays. Now, I know budget travel is something so many of you are interested in, and you've sent in loads of brilliant questions on Instagram for this one. We're covering everything, from whether five-star hotels are actually worth it to the best destinations where your money goes furthest, plus Chelsea's ultimate flight-booking hacks that will save you time and money. So, whether you're planning your next getaway or just love hearing about the best travel tricks out there, this episode is packed with useful tips and plenty of fun stories too.Destination Recap:Berlin, Germany Krakow, Poland Wroclaw, PolandGdansk, Poland Budapest, HungaryKozmo, Budapest, HungaryVilnius, Lithuania Seville, SpainTurkey Nidum Casual Luxury, Innsbruck, Austria Vietnam Ha Long Bay, VietnamCat Ba Island, VietnamKoh Lanta, ThailandDubaiIcelandChill out hostel, Zagreb, Croatia South KoreaUzbekistan Today's episode was produced by Alexandra Calder.With thanks to Visit Guernsey and Airbnb for their support of today's episode.Thanks so much for listening today. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't wait until then, remember there's the first 13 seasons to catch up on, that's over 145 episodes to keep you busy there. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

My guest today is a true force of nature. From the moment she burst onto the scene as a child prodigy with that voice, she became one of the most famous classical singers in the world, performing for presidents, popes, and royalty. It is of course, Charlotte Church. Her early career was a whirlwind - global fame, relentless travel, and a life that few could truly understand. We talk about what that was really like behind the scenes, the highs and the inevitable challenges of growing up in the spotlight, and how travel became both an escape and a source of inspiration for her.But Charlotte's journey didn't stop there. These days, she's also the founder of The Dreaming, a magical retreat space in rural Wales dedicated to healing, creativity, and connection. Throughout the year, The Dreaming hosts a range of immersive retreats - some focused on families, others on music and self-discovery, including Charlotte's own deeply personal Song of the Soul retreat. It even celebrates ancient traditions with gatherings around the folkloric calendar, from the Spring Equinox to Halloween.Charlotte's travel diaries take us from the neon-lit streets of Tokyo to the wild beauty of Dominica, the savannahs of Kenya, and, of course, the rolling green hills of Wales, her home. Her outlook on life is truly unique - spiritual, alternative, and deeply connected to nature and the world around her. So, this is a conversation you won't want to miss. Let's get started - here's Charlotte. Holly's Destination Recap:Homewood, Bath, EnglandCalcot & Spa, Tetbury, England via PoB hotelsCharlotte's Destination Recap:Brazil Lake Geneva, Switzerland Los Angeles, CaliforniaTokyo, Japan The Dreaming, Elan Valley, Wales KenyaElan Valley, Wales St David's, Pembrokeshire, WalesLlanidloes, WalesAnglesey, Wales The Gower, WalesMerthyr Mawr, WalesDominica Pittsburgh, USAPeruJapanYellowstone National Park, USACosta RicaYou can find out more about Charlotte's retreats at The Dreaming.co.ukWith thanks to Airbnb for their support of today's episode.Thanks so much for listening today. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't wait until then, remember there's the first 13 seasons to catch up on, that's over 145 episodes to keep you busy there. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Recently, as I scroll through TikTok I come across a rapper's profile that caught my attention. His name is Robert AKA "Castor Pollux". A true lyricist to the fullest degree. As someone who aspires to own the experience of performing a hip hop song on stage at somepoint, I am thoroughly intrigued. His appearance as a performer not exactly reflecting your standard Hip Hop representative, led me to believe he may have something to offer with his vocalized talent. HE DOES NOT DISAPPOINT. Specifically, I'm fed videos of him behind a desk in a office cubicle. Wearing a cheesy polo apparently, lipsyincing to his own recorded songs. His chin draped in this ZZ top like beard narrowly avoiding a dip in his cup of Joe. I love the contrasting nature of his style. Reminiscent of a popular Hip Hop duo in the 90's titled "The High and Mighty", the sound of his unique voice and catchy cadence hypnotize the little chubby Hip Hop fan that resides within. Naturally, we hit it off as we journey into the past where it is revealed that our substitution for lack of a digital landscape fulfilling our need for adventure becomes the streets and it's inhabitants surrounding our broken family homes. A sacrifice of safety for a taste of the poetic yet dangerous side of reality. What better way than to transform the trauma into poetry. Spotify TikTok YouTube

I can't quite believe we're here - Season 14! And what a way to kick things off because today's guest is nothing short of musical royalty. Nile Rodgers is a man whose music has shaped generations. A Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and Songwriters Hall of Fame inductee, he's the genius behind some of the biggest songs in history, think Le Freak, Good Times, and We Are Family. As the co-founder of CHIC, he pioneered the sound of disco and funk, but his influence didn't stop there. From producing Let's Dance for David Bowie to Like a Virgin for Madonna, working with legends like Diana Ross, Duran Duran, and Daft Punk, Nile's fingerprints are all over some of the most iconic records of all time. And that's before we even get to Get Lucky, the global smash hit with Daft Punk and Pharrell that introduced his magic to a whole new generation.Beyond his music, Nile's life is an incredible story of resilience, of reinvention, and creativity. His journey from the streets of New York to the biggest stages in the world is filled with extraordinary moments which he shares with us today. And since we recorded, Nile has had even more reason to celebrate, because at the Grammys, Beyoncé officially made history by winning Country Album of the Year - Nile worked with Beyoncé on the record which we discuss on the episode today, and he's long been an advocate for breaking boundaries in music, so I can only imagine how much joy that moment brought him. We spoke in December at the stunning Royal Lancaster Hotel in London, in a beautiful suite overlooking the rooftops of the city. If you're new to the podcast, this interview is not how my voice typically sounds, I was ill and could barely speak unfortunately, but that didn't get in the way of what I look back on as a magical conversation. Destination Recap:New York city, New York, USASao Paolo, Brazil Power Station Recording Studio, New York, USA Los Angeles, California, USA JapanProvidenciales, Turks and Caicos Iceland Montana, USAKazakhstanNile and CHIC will be touring across the UK and Europe this summer, bringing the good times (literally!) to a stage near you.With thanks to Airbnb for their support of today's episode. Thanks so much for listening today. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't wait until then, remember there's the first 13 seasons to catch up on, that's over 145 episodes to keep you busy there. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

LEGO hakkab videomänge tegema, Final Fantasy seeria on müünud üle 200 miljoni eksemplari, Pokémon Go vahetab omanikku ning Robloxi tegevjuht soovitab vanematel oma lastel seda mängu mitte mängida. Kas uus Xboxi konsool võib ilmuda juba sel aastal? Microsofti AI lubab olla mänguri parim kaaslane, Disco Elysium saab TikToki versiooni ning Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 3 […]

Turundusmaailm muutub kiiremini kui kunagi varem ja video mängib selles üha suuremat rolli. Kuidas aga kasutada videoformaate strateegiliselt, et jõuda oma sihtrühmani ja luua maksimaalset mõju? Seekordses saates on Andres Kostivi külaliseks Hando Sinsalu, Bestmarketingi ja Marketing Parrot'i asutaja, konverentside korraldaja ning Äripäeva raadio saatejuht.Räägime turunduse trendidest, konverentside ja webinaride arengust ning video võimalustest digiturunduses.

Pärast Jugoslaavia lagunemist 1990. aastate esimeses pooles on Lääne-Balkani riikide arengutrajektoorid olnud mõneti erinevad, kuid ometi on näha palju ühiseid jooni, mis tulenevad piirkonna paljuski ühisest kultuurist, ajaloost ja karakterist. Hetkel on Balkani poolsaare lääneosa riigid taas rohkem kõneainet pakkumas. Serbias toimuvad massilised protestid pärast seda, kui 1. novembril Novi Sadi raudteejaama katus kokku kukkus ja 15 inimest hukkus. Bosnias ja Hertsegoviinas mõisteti Serblaste Vabariigi juht Milorad Dodik aastaks ajaks vangi, kuid hetke seisuga ei tundu, et ta plaaniks sinna minna. Viimastel kuudel toimusid valimised Horvaatias ja Kosovos.Millised on Serbia tudengite juhitud protestiliikumise motiivid ning kas president Vučić kukutatakse? Miks Dodik vangi mõisteti ja millised on Bosnia ja Hertsegoviina tulevikuväljavaated? Miks on TikToki keelustamine ja Bektaši ordule Vatikani-taolise riigi loomine Albaanias päevakohased teemad?Olukorrast Lääne-Balkanil kõnelevad Erik ja Harald, saadet juhib ning modereerib Karl.

Are you feeling stuck, uninspired, or like you're just going through the motions? I've been there. Last year, I hit all my career and personal milestones, but instead of feeling fulfilled, I felt completely disconnected. In this episode, I share how I rediscovered my motivation using the 1% Better approach—small daily shifts that create massive transformation over time. We'll talk about: The realization that changed everything for me Why achieving your goals isn't enough for true happiness How micro-rituals can help you get unstuck and feel inspired again Simple habits you can implement today to feel better instantly The Hot to Hotter Challenge and how you can join us If you're ready to reignite your inner fire, start showing up as the best version of yourself, and build a life you truly love—this episode is for you. Join the Hot to Hotter Challenge

While bleak and gray at times, winter can be the prime time for observational and behavioral learnings in our local environments. Sneckdowns (snow + neckdowns), multi-day snow-covered cars, and unmaintained/disregarded sidewalks each tell us something. We also touch briefly on takeaways from convictions of the Jeffersonian grid: foresight and planning to widen our ideological tent, republican ideals (the governmental structure, not the political party), and balancing differing vantages on housing. We spend a moment on the recent TikTok events, too. Apologies for last week's delay. Appreciate your patience! We discuss: 00:00 We are so back. 07:40 Winter urban design insights. 21:10 Exploring republicanism, the Jeffersonian grid, and the NYC Commissioners' plan. 30:07 Reflections on TikTok, and content creation's fruits and shortfalls. 34:43 Wrapping up. For context: Sneckdowns (via a TikTok I made for Better Block). Design cues taken from snow (via Bloomberg CityLab). A map of proposed NYC growth, from 1807 (via the Library of Congress). More on the Jeffersonian grid (via NYT).

Tänases saates teeme põhjaliku ülevaate OnePlusi uusimast tipptelefonist ja JBL-i soodsama hinnaga väikestest kõrvaklappidest, millel on samuti ekraaniga karp. Arutame, kuidas segadus USA-s TikToki keelamise ümber on pannud kasutajaid vaatama veelgi kahtlasema Hiina äpi poole. Räägime ka DJI uuest volditavast droonist. Saate lõpus vastame mitmele kuulajakirjale. Saate teemad: • Test: Kas OnePlus 13 õigustab kõrgeid ootusi? • Titoki ära keelamine tekitab segadust, kasutajad annavad aga oma andmed nüüd kahtlasele Hiina platvormile • DJI Flip on omapärane volditav droon • Testisime JBL-i odavamaid pisikesi kõrvaklappe, millel on samuti ekraaniga karp • Kuulajakirjades vastame Tarmo küsimusele Telia TV äpi plaanide kohta ja jagame Priidiku head kogemust Smart-ID kasutamisel. Kui sul on meile küsimusi või tahad jagada oma kogemusi tehnikamaailmas, siis kirjuta meile: digisaade@geenius.ee. Saadet teevad Hans Lõugas, Glen Pilvre ja Meelis Väljamäe. Tunnusmuusika: Glen Pilvre, Paul Oja.

I'm so excited to bring you the third and final holiday special to round off 2024. And once again thank you for tuning in throughout the year—your support has been incredible. On today's Destination Special we're joined by a truly extraordinary guest—someone who's not only a trailblazer in the music industry but also a passionate traveller with a love for extraordinary adventures. She's a singer, songwriter, actress, and cultural icon whose music has been the soundtrack to so many of our lives. Yes, Lily Allen is here on The Travel Diaries!Lily's debut album, Alright, Still, launched her to global stardom, and since then, she's won BRIT Awards, Ivor Novellos, and devoted fans worldwide. But what you might not know is that Lily is also an avid traveller, and her recent trip to British Columbia is one of her most unforgettable yet.British Columbia is Canada's westernmost province, a land of extraordinary natural beauty where dramatic coastlines meet ancient cedar forests, and snow-capped peaks plunge into pristine fjords. It's a destination that feels alive with adventure and wonder. Getting there from the UK couldn't be easier—just hop on a direct flight to Vancouver. Vancouver itself is surrounded by ocean and mountains, making it one of the most picturesque city settings in the world—and certainly one of my favourites.From Vancouver, the possibilities are endless. You can take a floatplane to a remote coastal lodge, drive along the breathtaking Sea-to-Sky Highway, or catch a ferry to Vancouver Island. Whether you're exploring the city's cultural gems or heading into the wild for close encounters with nature, BC offers something for every kind of traveller.In this episode, Lily takes us along for her unforgettable journey through BC. We'll hear about her encounters with humpback whales, bears, and orcas. and how the restorative power of its nature left her mind at peace and her heart full - Lily calls it one of the most special experiences of her life, and you'll soon understand why.Destination Recap: The Loden Hotel, Vancouver Tofino, Vancouver IslandCathedral Grove Forrest, Vancouver IslandHot Springs Cove, Vancouver IslandWolf in the Fog, Vancouver IslandAlert Bay, Cormorant IslandAlert Bay Lodge, Cormorant IslandIf you'd like to find out more about British Columbia, then don't forget to check out your favourite travel titles, magazines and online guides, and you can also find a lot more information on the tourist board website, www.hellobc.com/Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you.And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 13 seasons to catch up on, that's over 130 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code POLUMBO at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/polumbo  ____________________________   The city of San Francisco's latest "health expert" is a fat positivity activist who is simply beyond parody. I break down the Golden State's latest insanity in this episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast. Plus, the dumbest socialist TikTok I've ever seen and Congress wants RAISES at taxpayer expense? As always, I wrap up the show with your comments.

On today's destination special, we're going to be discovering a country which, for the longest time, was out of reach for travellers, Saudi Arabia, or Saudi as it's now known. Within the travel industry Saudi has been front and centre for the past few years, with prominent features about its developments in most of the major travel magazines; the world's leading luxury hotel brands from Six Senses to Aman have been announcing impressive future openings across the country, and new tourist destinations are being developed from the Red Sea resort on the coast to Sindalah at NEOM…even a ski resort in the 3000m mountains. These are all offerings that have really intrigued the travel world, now that the doors are wide open.To be honest, I've been conflicted about making this episode. I had preconceptions about the country, which I'm sure many of you may share, and I wasn't sure how I felt about showcasing it with its own episode. However, I firmly believe in the power of travel as a force for good – tourism brings connection, understanding, and often positive change. And I also firmly believe you'll find this episode really interesting. Because if you're anything like me, you're probably very curious about destinations that feel like uncharted territory, that we don't know that much about yet. My goal is to give you more insight about the country from the travel experts who know it best so you can make up your own mind.First, we'll hear from adventurer, writer, and TV presenter Alice Morrison. Alice is like a real-life Indiana Jones – most recently, she's been exploring Saudi for her BBC series Arabian Adventures: Secrets of the Nabataeans, where she delves into the mysteries of this ancient civilization. She's also travelled extensively across Saudi as a solo female traveler, offering a unique perspective on what it's really like to explore the country as a woman. Then we'll be joined by Isabella Craddock, former editor of Condé Nast Traveller Middle East and the founder and editor of Near+Far Magazine. Isabella has spent years exploring Saudi's landscapes, cities, and hidden gems and she'll share her favourite spots, latest travel news, and tips for making the most of a visit.Destination Recap:Alice Morrison - Riyadh Diriyah Gate, Riyadh National Museum, RiyadhAlUlaNabatean Tombs, Hegra Jeddah Prince Mohammad Bin Salman Royal Reserves Wadi Disah Banyan Tree Hotel, AlUlaIsabella Craddock - NEOMThe Line AlUla Habitas, AlUla Maraya, AlUlaAsir Trojena Ski Resort Banyan Tree, AlUlaDar Tantora The House, AlUla Aman, Diriyah Jeddah Edition, Jeddah AL-Balad, Jeddah Sindalah, NEOM You can find out more about Saudi by reading nearfarmag.com, and you can listen more to Alice's adventures in Saudi on her podcast Alice in Wanderland. The tourist board website is another great resource if you're planning a trip. Thanks so much for listening today. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 13 seasons to catch up on. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Earlier this autumn, long before the pitch call for this Christmas edition of CYZ landed in my inbox, while absentmindedly scrolling through TikTok I came across a video by user @livgrace_x with the caption “If you live in liverpool.. wait for the end …”.

Welcome back to The Travel Diaries podcast! I'm your host, Holly Rubenstein, and I'm so thrilled to be back with you for the first of three Christmas specials to bring bit of festive sparkle to your holiday season. Over the coming weeks, I'll be bringing you conversations with some truly wonderful guests, and who better to start us off than the brilliant Sandi Toksvig?Sandi is a comedian, writer, broadcaster, actor, activist, and, of course, a beloved TV presenter. You'll know her from QI, where she made history as the first female host of a major British TV quiz show, from Channel 4's Extraordinary Escapes, and from The Great British Bake Off.Beyond her TV roles, Sandi has written numerous books, been a vocal advocate for equality and LGBTQ+ rights, and has a passion for adventure. Born in Copenhagen to a father who was a foreign correspondent, she spent her childhood living across the globe, from the African bush to NYC, sparking a lifelong love of travel. Her travel diaries today take us from the rivers of Africa to the Arctic Circle, the jungles of Costa Rica to her beloved Denmark —Sandi's travels are as fascinating and varied as she is.Sandi Claus Is Coming to Town is a family-friendly LGBTQ+ Christmas show hosted by national treasure, Sandi Toksvig. It's taking place at the Royal Albert Hall on Wednesday 18 December (tickets from royalalberthall.com)Destination Recap: Copenhagen, Denmark ZimbabweZambezi River, AfricaTivoli Gardens, Copenhagen, DenmarkPacuare Lodge, Costa Rica Lofoten Islands, Norway Henningsvær, Lofoten, Norway SudanCopenhagen, Denmark: Host RestaurantRestaurant Grøften /Tivoli GardensThe Round TowerThe Kissing BenchEilean Sionnach, ScotlandWolf Lodge, Norway Nebraska, USAThe Oregon Trail, USAAarhus, Denmark Villa Provence, Aarhus, Denmark Sydney, AustraliaJapanWith thanks to the Langham Hotel for hosting the interview.*COMPETITION* Win a luxury 4-night stay for two at the newly refurbished Shangri-La Le Touessrok in sunny Mauritius. For details on how to enter, head to my Instagram @hollyrubenstein. The competition closes on December 30th. Good luck. With thanks to Bibury Farm Barns in the Cotswolds. These barns are perfection—there are five in total ranging from 3 - 5 beds, each thoughtfully designed and beautifully styled. The location is ideal, right in the heart of the Cotswolds, making it a fantastic base for exploring this stunning part of the country. We loved revisiting charming villages like Bibury, Burford, and Stow-on-the-Wold, with their honey-coloured stone buildings and rich history. But it was the little moments back at the barn that made it truly special: mornings by the fire, countryside walks straight from the door, late-night hot tub soaks, and that deep, peaceful quiet you only find in the countryside.If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 13 seasons to catch up on, that's over 140 episodes to keep you busy there. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I was beyond thrilled when I got a chance to talk to Chani Ra of The Fashion Nap. Since discovering her on TikTok I've thought of her as a 'living magazine'. In this interview episode I get to the beginnings of fashion in her life, our love of fashion magazines, some of our favorite models past and present, and chat some of our favorite creators. —Get BONUS episodes on 90s TV and culture (Freaks & Geeks, My So Called Life, Buffy, 90s culture documentaries, and more…) and to support the show join the  Patreon! GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING & SUBSCRIBE!Guest: Chani Ra @princesschanira  The Fashion Nap on TikTok & YoutubeHost: Lauren @lauren_melanieFollow Fashion Grunge PodcastFind more Fashion Grunge on LinktreeJoin me on Substack:  The Lo Down: a Fashion Grunge blog/newsletter☕️ Support Fashion Grunge on Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/fashiongrunge

Today's guest is truly beloved figure in British television - someone who many of us feel we already know so well - Monty Don. For over two decades, Monty has been the heart and soul of BBC's Gardeners' World, inspiring millions to embrace the joys and therapeutic benefits of gardening. His connection to nature has taken him all over the globe, all in search of the profound ways that different cultures engage with the land. Alongside Gardeners' World, Monty has brought us stunning travel series like Around the World in 80 Gardens, Monty Don's Italian Gardens, Adriatic Gardens and most recently, Spanish Gardens. This latest series, which is accompanied by a beautiful book, delves into the country's breathtaking historic and contemporary landscapes, from Moorish-inspired patios to vibrant urban greens paces, revealing the depth and diversity of Spanish garden design.It was also fascinating to hear about Monty's journey to TV stardom, and how he had a completely different and hugely successful career in the fashion world, before, somewhat by chance, getting a new break into gardening and TV.From the gardens that stole his heart to the wild landscapes that left a lasting impression, here are Monty's travel diaries.Destination Recap:Leominster, Herefordshire, EnglandThe Black Mountains, WalesHydra, Greece Budleigh Salterton, Devon, England Mevagissey, Cornwall Provence, FranceLondon, EnglandAnnapurna, Nepal Native Tree Fern Forests, New ZealandThe Amazon Rainforest, BrazilIranChileJapanSummer Palace, Beijing, China Galicia, SpainNinfa Gardens, ItalyWollerton Hall, Shropshire, EnglandFinland through Eastern Europe to TriesteSpanish Gardens by Monty Don and Derry Moore, BBC Books, £39.99 out now.*COMPETITION* Head to my Instagram, @hollyrubenstein, for a chance to win a 3 night full board stay at one of the Maldives' most luxurious hotels, Kuda Villingili. Good Luck!With thanks to Skyscanner - The full travel trends 2025 report is available on Skyscanner app/site and of course you can always look for your 2025 trip whether it's flights, hotels or car hire on Skyscanner too.And to Airbnb - Your home could be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.co.uk/host. Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you.And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 12 seasons to catch up on, that's over 125 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, I'm thrilled to have comedian, history buff, and all-around legend, Al Murray, joining us on the show. Al is one of the UK's most beloved comedians, best known for his character ‘The Pub Landlord' – a hilarious, patriotic pub owner who's become an iconic figure in British comedy. His career has spanned over three decades, with award-winning comedy specials, TV shows, and even political satire where he actually ran for office in character!Beyond his comedy, though, Al has a real passion for history and travel – two themes that run deep through our conversation today.Together, we embark on a journey through some fascinating and surprising destinations that have left a mark on him. From the serene beauty of Alderney in the Channel Islands to the rugged coasts of Connemara in Ireland, and even the mystical temples of Angkor Wat in Cambodia – Al's love for adventure and curiosity about the past come through in each of his travel chapters. So let's buckle up and get started. Destination Recap:Alderney, Channel Islands, England Guernsey, Channel Islands Ervallagh, Connemara, Ireland Roundstone Bay and Island boat trips, Connemara, Ireland Osnabrück, GermanyGrottes de Gargas, France Angkor Wat, Cambodia Siem Reap, CambodiaPhnom Penh, Cambodia Normandy, France DubaiThe moonAnd I talk about Lesante Cape, Zakynthos, GreeceGuv Island is currently on tour across the UK and Ireland, tickets are available here.Arnhem: Black Tuesday is out nowThanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you.And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 12 seasons to catch up on, that's over 125 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today is the second of a new kind of episode within the podcast called Epic Adventures, where guests have achieved remarkable feats in the world of travel and adventure - and their life journey serves as an inspiration for others. Explorer and adventurer, Dwayne Fields, was born in Jamaica, and lived a wild and beautiful life surrounded by nature before moving to inner city London at the age of 6. The years that followed were really challenging, with his environment often pushing him toward dangerous paths. There was a pivotal moment—a life-altering near-death incident where his path could have gone in a very different direction—which served as a wake-up call that would ultimately inspire a transformation, seeing him trade city streets for wide-open spaces. Fast forward to today, and Dwayne is a trailblazer in every sense of the word. He's an explorer who's conquered some of the most extreme environments on Earth, including becoming the first Black Briton to walk over 400 miles to the magnetic North Pole. His passion for nature and adventure has also led him to champion causes close to his heart, like encouraging young people from disadvantaged communities to step out into the wild, build resilience, and experience the transformative power of the great outdoors.In this episode, we'll hear about Dwayne's incredible journey, from life-threatening moments to breathtaking expeditions, and how he's using his platform today to inspire the next generation of adventurers. Dwayne's story is sure to leave you motivated and uplifted.Destination Recap:Tanzania train ZambiaKenyaJamaicaThree Peaks Challenge Magnetic North Pole Ben Nevis, Scotland Galapagos, Ecuador 7 Toughest Days is streaming now on Disney+.Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you.And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 12 seasons to catch up on, that's over 125 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, I'm joined by the multi-talented Dawn O'Porter. Dawn's had an extraordinary career, starting in TV production before making a name for herself presenting hard-hitting documentaries, where she travelled the world exploring fascinating topics like polygamy, size zero culture, and the geishas of Kyoto, Japan. But she's best known now as a bestselling author, with nine incredible books under her belt, including The Cows, So Lucky, and her latest novel, Honeybee, which is already a huge hit. Dawn grew up in the Channel Islands on the beautiful island of Guernsey, a place she now cherishes for its breathtaking cliffs and sweeping beaches, though as a teenager, she yearned for big city life. After living in LA for 16 years with her husband, Bridesmaids actor Chris O'Dowd, and their two boys, she recently made the big move back to London. During her time in California, she uncovered her ultimate hidden gem that we'll hear all about today, and her travel diaries today take us from Ibiza to Italy, Scotland to Japan and much more. Holly's recommendation: Porto Zante, Zakynthos, GreeceDestination Recap:Guernsey, EnglandIbiza, Spain St Martin, Guernsey, EnglandFermain Bay, Guernsey, England Herm, Guernsey, England Sark, Guernsey, England Loch Lomond, Scotland Los Angeles, California, USAMayfair, London, England Marylebone, London, England Kyoto, JapanOjai, California, USAThailandRome, Italy Sienna, ItalyParis, France The MaldivesHONEYBEE by Dawn O'Porter is published by HarperCollins and is out nowThanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you.And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 12 seasons to catch up on, that's over 125 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm so excited to be joined by the journalist and TV presenter Ranvir Singh today. You'll have seen Ranvir as a regular face on Good Morning Britain on ITV, where she's known for handling everything from breaking news to tough political interviews and also presenting the Lorraine show when Lorraine herself is on her holidays, and beyond journalism, Ranvir showed a completely different side of herself on Strictly Come Dancing, a few years back. As we chat about on the episode, I used to work on Good Morning Britain as a producer alongside Ranvir, although our paths didn't really cross especially much as I was handling the showbiz side of things, but I always felt her warm and friendly energy in the office, and you'll hear today what I mean by that. I was really touched by how open and real Ranvir was in this interview, as a mother, a single parent, an advocate for diversity, and I'm sure many of you will relate to the emotions that her travel diaries hold for her, because they are some of her most treasured memories.And she is one of the most passionate guests I've had on the podcast when it comes to travel. She explains how it fuels her, and gets her through the everyday grind. I loved also hearing about the insider side of politics and political journalism - how she travelled on an RAF flight with the PM, and sat with former President Trump, it was fascinating. Ok, let's buckle up and get started, here's Ranvir. Holly's mention:Son Brull, MallorcaRanvir's Destination Recap:IndiaCalifornia, USABlackpool, EnglandLancaster, England AntiguaRagdale Hall, Leicestershire, England Dubai, UAEAbu Dhabi, UAETresind studio, Dubai, UAESEVA, Dubai, UAEMadikwe Lodge Game Reserve, South AfricaIceland Jordan Golden Temple, Amritsar, India Shimla, Himachal Pradesh, India Salou, SpainJapanQuito, Ecuador Galapagos Islands, EcuadorJason Atherton's Dubai Dishes Series 2, a 10-part series, is airing on ITV1 every Saturday and is available to watch on ITVX depending on when you listen to this.Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you.And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 12 seasons to catch up on, that's over 125 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today's guest needs little introduction in the world of food and travel journalism, a renowned restaurant critic, a writer whose words can make your mouth water, and a familiar face on TV—many of you will recognise him from his appearances as a judge on MasterChef. It is of course Jay Rayner.Jay's is a name synonymous with gastronomic excellence. As a long-time food critic for The Observer, he's sampled and critiqued some of the best, and worst, dining experiences around the globe. Beyond his razor-sharp reviews, he's a celebrated author, his books like "The Man Who Ate the World" and "My Dining Hell” offering a deeper look into the intersections of food, culture, and travel. And he's back with a new book, “Nights Out at Home, Recipes and Stories from 25 years as a restaurant critic". And he reflects on these years, and the 1000s restaurants he's visited on today's episode. I interviewed him a few weeks ago on the South Bank in London and I loved getting a glimpse into the world of reviewing restaurants, how it works, his tips on what to order when travelling, and the culinary destinations that have stood out to him, lots of restaurant recommendations as you might expect, so don't forget they're all included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and on the podcast website too. Holly's Destination Recap:- Son Bunyola, Mallorca, SpainJay's Destination Recap:Cromer, Norfolk, EnglandKnoll House Hotel, Studland Bay, EnglandErst, Manchester, England Glorisa, Tayyabs, London, England Bentley's, London, England Fallow, London, England Otto's, London, England The Dining Room, The Ritz Hotel, England Takahashi, London, England Good Old Days, Reading, England Cubo, Birmingham, England Greece & Turkey backpacking Syros, Greece New York, USARuss & Daughters, NY, USAThe Fat Duck, Bray, England Wheelers, Whitstable, England Whitstable, England Julian, California, USASteamboat, Oregon, USASylvia Beach Hotel, Oregon, USACastle Elvira, Puglia, Italy The Maybourne Riviera, Roquebrune-Cap-Martin, France Moscow, Russia New ZealandAustralia“Nights Out at Home, Recipes and Stories from 25 years as a restaurant critic” is out now. Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 12 seasons to catch up on, that's over 125 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So many stories for us this week guys! Covering your bf being besties with a girl he's been with, treating your gut, some of the worst friend and partner betrayals and how every little decision you make has an impact on your life :) Thanks for listening, please remember to follow and leave a review if you haven't already!Link to the TikTok I talk about

Pre-Loved Podcast is a weekly vintage fashion interview show, with guests you'll want to go thrifting with! For more Pre-Loved Podcast, subscribe to our Patreon! On today's show, we're chatting with Sanne Hendriks, an Amsterdam-based tattoo artist, illustrator, and vintage fashion content creator who works at the beloved Rumors Vintage (an Amsterdam fave!) for the last eight years.  She's a big collector of 1960s and 70s clothing, so this episode is a little fashion history, a little collecting — and if you're ready for some vintage suede this fall, we've got tips for you! All this and more on today's show – let's dive right into it! DISCUSSED IN THE EPISODE: [2:04] The emo kid to vintage collector pipeline [5:43] On the vintage scene in Amsterdam. [8:03] Sanne got into 1960s-70s as a teenager. [10:08] She works at Rumors, which is a beloved Amsterdam vintage store. [24:54] The item on Sanne's vintage wishlist that she's always hunting for.  [31:50] Caring for vintage suede. EPISODE MENTIONS:  @sannesunset Sanne's TikTok I'm With the Band by Pamela Des Barres Rumors Vintage in Amsterdam Sendra cowboy boots Patti Boyd Caroline Tucker Fiona Tronson Gianna Skye LET'S CONNECT: 

MULTI-PASSIONATES, ASSEMBLE! if you want to do a LOT of different things, but you fear confusing other people, this is your sign: BE CONFUSING! This is a continuation of a TikTok I posted. We are RECLAIMING the state of confusion from this colonially imagined, logic-obsessed world. are you coming?!

Today, we're embarking on an enchanting journey to amazing Austria. Picture lush Alpine meadows bursting with wildflowers under a clear blue sky, the invigorating scent of pine forests, the gentle sound of cowbells ringing in the distance. Now, imagine a winter scene, where pristine slopes invite skiers of all ages and levels, and charming villages twinkle with festive lights and the aroma of mulled wine. Austria's beauty is truly a year-round spectacle.Today, we are diving deep into the soul of Austria, exploring not just its stunning sights but also its unique Lebensgefühl which translates in english as “the sense of life” - that unmistakable feeling of joy and contentment that is so integral to the Austrian way of life. From relaxing in world-class spas and thermal baths to hiking through majestic Alpine pastures, immersing yourself in its vibrant culture and music scene, to outdoor activities that cater to every age, Austria's Lebensgefühl will be our guiding theme today.To help us uncover the many layers of this extraordinary country, we have two fantastic guests. First, I'm thrilled to welcome Marina Fogle. Marina is the co-founder of The Bump Class, a renowned antenatal class provider, and the voice behind The Parent Hood Podcast. She is also the wife of TV presenter Ben Fogle. Marina has a special connection to Austria, spending many holidays there with her family, thanks to her Austrian heritage. She brings a wealth of personal anecdotes and insider tips that promise to give us a heartfelt glimpse into Austrian life.Our second guest is Becki Enright, a distinguished travel journalist and Austria expert, who wrote the Vienna chapter of the Austria's Lonely Planet guide and who calls Vienna her home. Becki's extensive travels and deep-rooted knowledge of Austria make her the perfect guide to introduce us to the country's hidden gems, cultural highlights, and must-see regions.So, settle in and get ready to be transported to Austria, a land where natural beauty meets cultural richness, and every moment is infused with the joy of living. Destination Show notes Marina Fogle -Schlenken mountain, SalzburgSchmittenstein mountain, SalzburgSalzkammergut, Salzburg Lake Fuschl, SalzkammergutArlberg MassifSalzburgBecki Enright - Vienna Liechtensteinklamm, St. Johann im PongauEisriesenwelt, WerfenArea 47, Tirol Salzkammergut, Salzburg Hallstatt, Upper AustriaAttersee, Upper AustriaWolfgangsee, Upper AustriaTraunsee, Upper AustriaAquadome, TirolRogner Bad Blumau, Styrian Wine Road Bad Ischl, Salzkammergut, Upper AustriaBregenzerwald, VorarlbergFor more information about Austria head to austria.infoThanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram and TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't want until then remember there's the first 11 seasons to catch up on, that's over 125 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's Season 12! And today's guest is a truly special season opener - someone whose vibrant personality, culinary expertise, and passion for storytelling has made her a beloved figure on both sides of the Atlantic. Of course we are joined by the fabulous, Andi Oliver.Andi is a multi-talented dynamo who has worn many hats throughout her illustrious career. She's a renowned chef, a charismatic TV presenter, and a celebrated musician. From her early days as a punk rock singer in the band Rip Rig + Panic alongside the legendary Neneh Cherry, to her captivating presence on shows like "The Great British Menu" and "Beat the Chef", to working as a restauranteur and writing best selling cookbooks, and hosting her fantastic podcast Stirring it Up with her daughter Miquita, Andi's life has truly had many many chapters.We discuss her Antiguan heritage, her special connection to the island and what that has meant to her over the years, as well as, on a more serious note, the challenges she has faced being a woman of Caribbean descent in the UK. We'll delve into the stories behind her favourite dishes, her culinary inspirations, and much more.So, buckle up and join us as we get started with Andi.Destination Recap:Holly -Santa Marina, a Luxury Collection Resort, MykonosAndi - Limassol, Cyprus Suffolk, EnglandAntiguaThe Pepperpot Rum Shop, AntiguaNew York City, NY, USAModena, ItalyMexico Mexico City, MexicoPlaya del Muerte, Mexico KenyaSoldier Bay, Antigua Barbuda Nobu Barbuda Northcote Hall, Blackburn, EnglandPlates London - Plant-Based Restaurant & Food Studio, London, England Puerto Rico San Antonio, Texas, USASpainJapan With thanks to Curtain Bluff hotel in Antigua who are supporting today's episode. Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram and TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't want until then remember there's the first nine seasons to catch up on, that's over 100 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Try Riverside free now: https://creators.riverside.fm/PodcastersPodcast & Use code: Podcast15 for an exclusive 15% off. Ash and Kane create the ultimate podcast in this episode! They talk about how to design and build  the perfect podcast show for you, from building on your unique knowledge to what would suit your specific audience they reveal the things you need to focus on to make a successful podcast in 2024. KEY TAKEAWAYS There are three main ways you can niche down, by strategy, by demographic or both. The obvious content isn't always the answer, try and make yourself stand out by being unique, even if it may at first seem like the boring solution. Think about SEO when titling, can you alter it to match your demographic and appeal to them? You can utilise AI as a jumping point to find titles and allow you to filter out bad ideas What is your audience already listening to, where are they consuming content? This is where you need to place your podcast and marketing. How can you build a community for your show and content, could you do in person networking events or would an online community work better for your demographic? BEST MOMENTS “Niche down, it's actually easier” “If you ask people our age where do you find podcasts a lot of them will tell you TikTok” “I'd mostly do interview shows” “I think with our age group, something community related would be pretty cool” VALUABLE RESOURCES Website EPISODES TO CHECK OUT NEXT Comparing Podcast Production Options | using AI? Building a High Ticket Offer | The Best Way to Monetise a Podcast ABOUT THE HOSTS Kane Baron & Ashley Morris run the UK's first and largest Podcast Agency, Progressive Media. They specialise in planning, launching, and Growing Podcasts that Generate Leads, Revenue and Business opportunities as well as helping Experts and Entrepreneurs improve Credibility and Positioning within their niche to Scale their Personal Brand and Business. Kane and Ashley manage over 100 Podcasters every week Including Rob Moore, Kevin Clifton and Dapper Laughs. They have supported hundreds of Podcasts in generating tens of Millions in combined Revenue. Progressive Media have provided Production, Marketing and Consultancy services to help creators Launch, Scale & Monetise their Podcast for over 7 years. CONNECT & CONTACT Instagram LinkedIn Email: podcast@progressiveproperty.co.uk

Onward from one trauma to the next when Tiktok (I should have figured) has brought back an old sinister theory about the movie Finding Nemo. This perception shifter wrecked Angi's childhood (she was like 60 when that movie came out so let's play make believe.) Apparently, the barracuda that was blamed for the loss of Nemo's mother and all his siblings was not the cause of the mass extinction event. It turns out that Mrs. Vorhees was the kille...wait, wrong movie. Nemo's mother was the culprit because in actual life, female clownfish tend to eat their eggs and barracudas do not. So the death that swept the ocean that day was triggered by mother clown fish (who then went on to get eaten or something, this part was unclear.) The point is that Nemo only lived due to sheer luck or maybe because she was too full. Had she lived though, there is a good chance she would have probably eaten Nemo as well. While Angi's therapist put her calls to voicemail, she continued on how Coral was just an absolute bitch. See, marine biologists showcased that female clown fish eat their young while the males tend to them. Though the males will eat damaged eggs/kids and during the first few attempts, the parents will end up eating all the eggs for fun. This underwater horror story also has an even darker tone in that Nemo may have not actually existed. See, another swing showcased that Nemo may have been eaten and simply never existed and the whole movie is a hallucinated fever dream. After all, Nemo translates to "nobody." That's right, you were actually watching Finding Nobody! Basically, Tiktok is out to ruin your childhood by showcasing the true horrors of nature and these reveals were blowing Marris' mind. Then again, all the Disney movies were kind of sinister. Bambi, The Lion King, Dumbo, dead parents about with built in childhood traumas. It's almost like Disney writers were all high on acid or shroomed out and decided to really screw us up (and then benefit later by making PTSD-addled adults love their parks.) Obviously, Pixar won't confirm this wild theory but Marris is now in the mood to rewatch the movie and do a deep dive to see if it tracks or not. This led into a childhood trauma movie look through like how The Land Before Time made Marris cry and how Charlotte's Web did Angi in. Mother of the Year Taylor then forgot (see: drunk) that Charlotte's Web was so bad and showed it to her four year old daughter and it was the first time she cried from a movie. After announcing she's the worst parent ever (spot on) Angi also mentioned how the flying monkey's and The Wicked Witch from The Wizard of Oz terrified her so you can see how well adjusted we are on this show.

Only for TikTok I'd still have my daughter - Liam Walsh is demanding change and he won't be silenced..Crown the Witch Bambie Thug is the sensation of Eurovision 2024 - do we dare to dream now..Live rent free in Co Galway for a year - there's no catch - just send your kids to the local gaelscol & lots more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hi friends! SO excited to be back for another episode of ISW and even MORE excited we have so much women in sports news! Today we are chatting about: If I can pull off my new BAY FC Hat A depressing Pickleball follow up Some OJ marketing moments Away messages for iPhones Being humbled by my old TikToksThe weird side of TikTok I ended up onMental Health update Brittney Mahome's new hairMeghan Markle & Prince Harry's new showsTaylor & Travis at Coachella Karma's a Bitch updates WNBA Draft My first Bay FC Game ISW: The ads I am NOT ready to get Dont forget to download and rate and subscribe lol!

Susannah Constantine first burst onto our TV screens in the late 90s, alongside her partner-in-style, Trinny Woodall. Together, they revolutionised the way women approach fashion with their ground-breaking show 'What Not to Wear', as the iconic duo Trinny & Susannah. The series not only garnered international acclaim but also became a cultural phenomenon, empowering women to embrace their bodies and dress with confidence, taking them all over the world from The Oprah Winfrey Show to the Oscars red carpet. This, we discuss, was just one chapter in Susannah's fascinating life. In her 20s she was in a long-term relationship with Viscount David Linley, the son of Princess Margaret, and we chat today about her travels with Princess Margaret and how she viewed her very much as a mother figure in her life. Susannah is also a bestselling author, and a very successful podcaster - her podcast, My Wardrobe Malfunction, has had 9 seasons, and the most incredible guest lineup from Elizabeth Hurley to Nile Rodgers.Travel quite clearly means a lot to Susannah and she evokes the destinations in her travel diaries today, from Cornwall to Canada, Pakistan to Antarctica, so vividly, and emotively.Destination Recap:Holly - Four Seasons Ritz Lisbon, PortugalSusannah - AntarcticaGassin, France St Tropez, France Olhão, Portugal MustiqueVancouver Island, British Columbia, CanadaClinton, British Columbia, CanadaPakistanHelford Passage, Cornwall Cairngorms, Scotland Soverato, Calabria, Italy Nairobi, KenyaAntarctica Susannah was on a Viking cruise to Antarctica, and Viking provides destination-focused journeys on rivers, oceans and lakes across all seven continents and destination-focused expeditions in Antarctica, the Arctic and North America's Great Lakes. And you can find Susannah' podcast my wardrobe malfunction wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on Threads and TikTok - I'd love to hear from you.And if you can't want until then remember there's the first ten seasons to catch up on, that's over 110 episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

My guide to the Menstrual Phase of your period! In today's episode, we talk about: Introduction to the Menstrual Phase What to eat on Menstrual Phase What exercise to do on the Menstrual Phase Productivity on the Menstrual Phase What self-care to during the Menstrual Phase What skincare to during the Menstrual Phase Products, resources, and people mentioned: (*Affiliate Links) Alisa Vitti's reel about Menstrual Phase Hitomi's YouTube video about Cycle Syncing Moribyan's Chili Recipe Cookerru's Easy Soondubu Jjigae (Korean Soft Tofu Stew) Recipe Tiffy Cook's Ginger Milk Tea Boba Recipe Links for Palestine: Operation Olive Branch (Help a Palestinian family escape!! Mutual aid, help families directly, they are also looking for social media assistance and prenatal/birth workers!!): ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3wl1SMx⁠ For future reference, beauty brands with and without ties (a lovely spreadsheet by a TikTok user, whose TikTok I cannot find anymore. ALSO, it says Charlotte Tilbury is potentially unsafe bc they allegedaly dropped Bella Hadid but CT has a good relationship with Bella): ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3P0BD4u⁠⁠ More brands to boycott: ⁠⁠https://boycott.thewitness.news/⁠ HMU Podcast Instagram: @cutekindofpodcast Personal Instagram: @miumewgf TikTok: @miumewgf Medium: @lailapetals More Listening Link: link.chtbl.com/cutekindofpodcast

Want to learn more about cycle syncing workouts, foods, and more? Keep listening In today's episode, we talk about: How I got started with cycle syncing What cycle syncing is Who came up with cycle syncing What hormone balancing is The four phases of the menstrual cycle Tracking your period What we will talk about in each episode Products, resources, and people mentioned: (*Affiliate Links) The Sacred Self-Care Oracle: A 55-Card Deck and Guidebook* Cycle Syncing: Matching Your Health Style to Your Menstrual Cycle, medically reviewed by Carolyn Kay, M.D., written by Allison Krupp for healthline Alisa Vitti's Instagram Everything You Should Know About Hormonal Imbalance, medically reviewed by Marina Basina, M.D., written by Corinne O'Keefe Osborn for Healthline Links for Palestine: Operation Olive Branch (Help a Palestinian family escape!! Mutual aid, help families directly, they are also looking for social media assistance and prenatal/birth workers!!): ⁠https://bit.ly/3wl1SMx For future reference, beauty brands with and without ties (a lovely spreadsheet by a TikTok user, whose TikTok I cannot find anymore. ALSO, it says Charlotte Tilbury is potentially unsafe bc they allegedaly dropped Bella Hadid but CT has a good relationship with Bella): ⁠https://bit.ly/3P0BD4u⁠ More brands to boycott: ⁠https://boycott.thewitness.news/ HMU Podcast Instagram: @cutekindofpodcast Personal Instagram: @miumewgf TikTok: @miumewgf Medium: @lailapetals More Listening Link: link.chtbl.com/cutekindofpodcast

"I should be able to show up in multiple ways. But despite being somebody who has a book deal and 70 plus thousand followers on Tiktok […] I have to accept that I have my own limitations." -Jessie DaSilva In this episode, we talk about her book, The Witch's Way To Wealth, and the vulnerability that comes with her recent success.

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I'm very grateful to have Glen Collinson back on the Triumphing Over Trauma series this week. He speaks to some amazing results he's has with the group hypnosis sessions he's made available to those that weren't able to do 1:1 with him. He chats about the highlights and challenges of navigating the importance of continued support for the adjustments to the new ways of living after experienceing significant change. Glen speaks to the difference in 1:1 with group and shares this:  'When I do the group sessions, it's not a discussion session' and 'People enjoy that community, they like that sense'.  Glen is not your usual therapist, with a 30 year career in IT. And though you might wonder how someone working in a world of logic, become a reiki master, life coach, master hypnotherapist and more....he's shares why all of it came about.  Glen has qualified in mulitiple ways in NLP, Hypnosis, Life Coaching, RTT, Reiki, and of course is a Digital Leader! Glen's coaching and mentoring journey of overcoming his own traumas became a passion and mission to help others, which he does regularly now.  You can find Glen on his social accounts here: Glen at Finally Free Therapy on Instagram Glen on TikTok   I love connecting with you and I look forward to getting to know you better along the way.  Please come join me in The Change Gang Group! Change Gang Group   Grab yourself a freebie made just for YOU here: Fun FREEBIES!   And I have a brand new one that's not even on the website yet. If you'd like to boost your happiness and increase your sleep, this one's for you!  Sleep Better and Live Happier!   And I'm also always happy to connect on Instagram: Laura Ordile   Thank you so much for joining me in the fun. I'd be very grateful if you would be willing to take a moment and rate and review the show for me. And I hope you have a great week!   Happy day to you,   Laura 

Welcome to Season 11! Kicking us off in style, we're joined by a dazzling duo who are set to waltz their way into your hearts, stars of Strictly Come Dancing, and heading into a second season of their much loved travel show Anton and Giovanni's Adventures, it's Anton du Beke and Giovanni Pernice. I spoke to Anton and Gio in London a couple of weeks ago, at a dance studio which was like something out of Fame - sprawling rooms filled with people singing and whooping and music blaring from every corner, so if you hear the odd vocal warmup or some echoey bits in the background, that's why. I've watched Strictly since Season 1 and Anton has been a part of the show since the very beginning, a seasoned dance floor veteran, first as a contestant and now as a judge. And then Giovanni entered with a bang back in 2015, reaching the final 3 times, and then winning with EastEnders actress Rose Ayling-Ellis in 2021.With Anton being half Spanish, half Hungarian and Giovanni growing up in Sicily, travel has played an important part of both their lives, and I hope you really have a laugh with us on this one.Destination Recap:Holly:COMO Alpina Dolomites Anton & Gio's Destination Recap:Sciacca, Sicily, ItalyTaormina, Sicily, ItalyPalermo, Sicily, Italy HungaryGalicia, SpainBilbaoSan Sebastian, SpainBenidorm, SpainBologna, Italy ThailandMaldives Pacific Highway 101, California, USACarmel, California, USASeville, Spain Ronda, SpainMadrid, SpainDoncaster, England, UKBangkok, Thailand Portofino, Italy Buenos Aires, Argentina, South AmericaNew York, USAEpisode 1 of Anton & Giovanni's Adventures in Spain will air on BBC One and iPlayer on Mon 18th March at 9pm.With thanks to my sponsors today - Citalia - Discover the real Italy with Citalia, the UK's leading Italian holiday specialists. Let the Italy Experts craft the perfect holiday for you and experience Italy like a Citalian.Airbnb - Visit Airbnb.com and find out more. Prospective Hosts can learn more about how much they can earn sharing their space through the What's My Place Worth Tool.Thanks so much for listening today. If you'd like to hear more from the podcast don't forget to hit subscribe, or if you use Apple Podcasts to press follow so that a new episode lands in your podcast app each week. If you want to be the first find out who is joining me on next week's episode come and follow me on Instagram I'm @hollyrubenstein, and you'll also find me on Threads and TikTok - I'd love to hear from you. And if you can't wait until then remember there's the first ten seasons to catch up on, that's over 110 + episodes to keep you busy there. Don't forget that all the destinations mentioned by my guests are included in the episode show notes here on your podcast app, and listed on my website, thetraveldiariespodcast.comSee you next Tuesday! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1. What makes this show different from any other show on the radio, we're not afraid to talk about the things other shows run from. Some times it's race related issues, some times it a story about a girl having sex with her dog. Point being, we don't run from controversial topics and we try to make the uncomfortable topics funny which leads to making tough conversations easier to have. 2. We heard a great rumor about a local lobbyist taking some legislatures to a legendary restaurant here in town where they "allegedly" bribed a waitress to get naked and let them take body shots off of her by buying her an expensive Louis Vuitton purse. Again, "allegedly" once his boss saw the charge on the credit card he claimed it was fraud. We here at the Clay Edwards Show fully support this behavior (minus the fraud claims) 3. We breakdown the State of disunion and Joe Biden's speech last night in Washington D.C. 4. Congress is aggressively looking to ban tiktok and has gone as far as passing a bill 50-0 out of committee to remove it from all electronic devices and app stores in America or force China to sell the company. As someone who makes money off of TikTok I have a problem with the government continuing to ban things. 

Congress is aggressively looking to ban tiktok and has gone as far as passing a bill 50-0 out of committee to remove it from all electronic devices and app stores in America or force China to sell the company. As someone who makes money off of TikTok I have a problem with the government continuing to ban things. 

Love is Blind Episode 12 was a rollercoaster! Wheww! I decided that rather than record a full recap (which I have on TikTok) I would give you my parting thoughts on our final 3 couples we saw Episode 12. I always give myself time to process, change my mind, and reflect to see if any opinions I have are projections from my life. I hope you enjoy this episode, and if you're new here please leave a review! Follow on TikTok: www.TikTok.com/positivelyuncensored Follow on Instagram: www.Instagram.com/positivelyuncensored Follow on X: www.x.com/PosUncensored --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/positivelyuncensored/message

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In this episode, Meg discusses the strategy of creating POV viral reels to attract the right clients. She emphasizes the importance of having a sales system in place and the need for lead generation.    Meg provides an example of a successful POV viral reel and breaks down the essential elements that made it go viral.    She introduces the 'Day in the Life' exercise to understand the emotions and actions of the target audience. Meg also explains how to incorporate coaching and positive actions into the reel.    She provides tips for executing the POV viral reel and suggests an alternative approach using skits. The episode concludes with a call to action for viewers to create their own POV viral reels and tag Meg.   Takeaways Having a sales system in place is crucial for converting leads generated from viral content. POV viral reels should focus on the emotions and actions of the target audience. The 'Day in the Life' exercise helps understand the client's experience and emotions throughout the day. Incorporate coaching and positive actions into the reel to showcase how your services can help. Execution of the POV viral reel involves assembling video clips, adding text, and selecting appropriate music. Skits can be an alternative approach to convey the same message in a humorous way. Biz Resources   →@the.relationship.rehab TikTok I was referring to in the episode: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.relationship.rehab/video/7109422907830439170   →My “skit” example: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ch96PZruVNZ/   →Get My Free On-Demand Training: Creating Content To Attract New Followers: https://meganyelaney.com/content-that-attracts   →Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meganyelaney/    →Apply for Smart Online Success Accelerator: https://meganyelaney.com/sosa   →Get Unique Content Camp here: https://meganyelaney.com/ucc  

This week's episode in the Triumphing Over Trauma welcomes Glen Collinson. He shares some things from his own life, that are so applicable to so many others, and they likely don't even realize it. Trauma kicked off early in Glen's life and eventually it carried him into searching the personal development world and more to help himself and then others.  Glen is not your usual therapist, with a 30 year career in IT. And though you might wonder how someone working in a world of logic, become a reiki master, life coach, master hypnotherapist and more....he's shares why all of it came about.  Glen has qualified in mulitiple ways in NLP, Hypnosis, Life Coaching, RTT, Reiki, and of course is a Digital Leader! Glen's coaching and mentoring journey of overcoming his own traumas became a passion and mission to help others, which he does regularly now.  You can find Glen on his social accounts here: Glen at Finally Free Therapy on Instagram Glen on TikTok   I love connecting with you and I look forward to getting to know you better along the way.  Please come join me in The Change Gang Group! Change Gang Group   Grab yourself a freebie made just for YOU here: Fun FREEBIES!   And I have a brand new one that's not even on the website yet. If you'd like to boost your happiness and increase your sleep, this one's for you!  Sleep Better and Live Happier!   And I'm also always happy to connect on Instagram: Laura Ordile   Thank you so much for joining me in the fun. I'd be very grateful if you would be willing to take a moment and rate and review the show for me. And I hope you have a great week!   Happy day to you,   Laura   

HAPPY NEW YEAR! Remy has recovered well, and I just wanna say these nurses who work so closely with patients, especially the ones who helped us through our horrible experience with this doctor. In other news, I am getting chewed up online for a TikTok I posted, which has now since blown up!Sponsor:For 25% off your order, head to ForWellness.com/FITISH and use code FITISH.Go to HelloFresh.com/FITISHFREE and use code FITISHFREE for FREE breakfast for life! One breakfast item per box while subscription is active.

Welcome to today's SOLO episode! I'm sharing all about my birthday, why I think wishing people happy birthday is SO important and what exciting things I did! We take out personal Trash, pop culture and TikTok Trash & TRASHER'S TRASH! In pop culture and TikTok I go over RHOSLC, Gypsy Rose & Golden Globes DRAMA. Thanks for listening

On this week's episode, I have influencer/creator expert Taylor Lorenz. Tune in as we talk about her book, “Extremely Online: The Untold Story Of Fame, Influence, And Power On The Internet” as well as her experiences working as a journalist for “The Washington Post” and “The New York Times”. We also dive into some tidbits she has about social media.Show NotesTaylor Lorenz on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz/?hl=enTaylor Lorenz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorlorenz?lang=enTaylor Lorenz on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp38w5n099xkvoqciOaeFagMichael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Newsletter - https://michaeljamin.com/newsletterAutogenerated TranscriptTaylor Lorenz:These old school entertainment people come on and they don't really understand the app and they clearly are not doing it themselves. They have some content assistant and then they're like, Hey kids, I guess I have to be here now. And it's like, what are you doing here? I will say the musicians do a better job. Megan Trainor has Chris Olsson, but TikTok buddy that, and music is such a part of TikTok, I feel like they get a warmer reception.Michael Jamin:You're listening to, what the Hell is Michael Jamin talking about? I'll tell you what I'm talking about. I'm talking about creativity, I'm talking about writing, and I'm talking about reinventing yourself through the arts.Hey everyone, what the hell? It's Michael Jamin talking about today. I'm going to tell you what I'm talking about. So for those of you who have been listening for a long time, I'm always telling you, just put your work out there. Get on social media, start making a name for yourself, because whether you want to be an actor or a writer or director, you got to bring more to the table than just your desire to get a big paycheck and become rich and famous. If you can bring a market, if you can bring your audience you're going to bring, that brings a lot to the table. And so my next guest is an expert on this, and she's the author of Extremely Online, the Untold Story of Fame, influence and Power on the Internet. I'm holding up her book. If you're watching this podcast, if you're driving in the car, you can imagine that there's a book and has a cover. So please welcome, pull over your car and give a round of applause to Taylor Lorenz. Thank you Taylor for coming and joining me for talking about this. It's an honor meeting you finally.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, likewise. Excited to be here.Michael Jamin:So you wrote this great book, which I read, and there's so much, I guess there's so much. You actually document the history starting from the beginning of mommy bloggers and all these people who kind of were at the forefront and then built a name for themselves on social media. And so I'm just hoping to talk to you about how we can take some of this information and apply it to the people who listen to my podcast and follow me on social media so that they can help do the same. So I guess starting from the beginning, what was interesting that you pointed out is that women were kind of at the forefront at this whole thing. You want to talk about that a little bit?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, definitely. I mean, I talk about this in the book, but in the turn of the millennium, the early aughts, this blogging was taking off and there were tons of blogs, and I talk about some of the big political and tech blogs at the time, but it wasn't really until the mommy bloggers entered onto the internet in the early aughts who were these moms, these stay at home moms that really had nothing else to do. A lot of them were shut out of the labor market, and they turned to blogging and ended up really building their own kind of feminist media empires by building audiences. And they were the first to really cultivate strong personal brands online and then leverage those personal brands to monetize.Michael Jamin:And you're right about, I remember this may have been 10 years ago or maybe longer, one of my friends, our screenwriter, she developed a TV show on these mommy bloggers. And I'm like, wait a minute. And there was a couple of people who did that. Max Nik, who was a guest on my podcast a while, a couple weeks ago, same thing. He wrote a show based on shit my dad says, but it's on a Twitter feed and there's all these people. It's so interesting. I was a little late to the game in terms of Hollywood exploiting all these markets, these people who are making names for themselves. Lemme back up for a second though. Why did you decide to even write this book?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, so I started covering this. I started as a blogger myself a little bit later.Michael Jamin:What were you blogging?Taylor Lorenz:I was blogging about my life, a lot, about my life and a lot of about online culture stuff. I thought that the mainstream media was really bad at covering the internet, and so I thought, I'm going to write about the internet. This was when I was young millennial, right out of college.Michael Jamin:You were writing about your personal life?Taylor Lorenz:Yes.Michael Jamin:Okay. So that's a whole different thing. You're opening yourself up to everything. And was there any, I know I'm jumping around here, I guess I have so many questions, but I don't know, was there backlash from that? Were there repercussions? Because we're talking about people do this. What's the backlash?Taylor Lorenz:Well, this was like 2009, so it was such a different internet, and I'm so grateful, honestly, that I was blogging in that era and not this era because I think I didn't get a lot of backlash. I had a great community. I met some of my best friends, were other bloggers from that era. I became very popular on Tumblr for my single serving like meme, like blogs. So yeah, I think when you're young, you're just kind of trying a lot of different things out. I didn't know what I wanted to do out of college. I'd never studied journalism. I didn't know I was working at a call center and just became popular on the internet and then was like, I guess I'm pretty good at thisMichael Jamin:Stuff. Really? I didn't know that about it. You have a pretty big following on TikTok and Instagram as well, which is so weird because you're writing about something that you are also participating in. I mean, it's almost meta how you are, what you're talking about. No,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. I mean, I started, had I been able to monetize my blog nowadays, content creators on TikTok, they can monetize in 2009, 2010, couldn't, the best that you could hope for was one of those book deals that Urban Outfitters. Right?Michael Jamin:ButTaylor Lorenz:You couldn't really leverage it into much. I ended up just leveraging it into a career in media, which has been fun. ButMichael Jamin:See, this is what's interesting to me because right now you see so many people on social media, how do I monetize this? Meaning ads or even sponsorships, but there's other ways to monetize outside of brand deals or views on YouTube getting used. So yeah, there's a whole, I don't know. Do you think that's a large percentage of people on the internet? It seems like to me most are doing it to monetize for the brand deals. What's your take on it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, I think now that you can monetize in that way, a lot of people, that's their end goal. I'm kind of glad. I mean, it's a double-edged sword. Who knows what I could have done if I was able to monetize, but I'm really glad actually that you couldn't, because I think myself and a lot of other bloggers, we ended up going in a lot of different ways and entering into a lot of media type of jobs that, yeah, I mean would've never gotten otherwise. And I've learned how to be a journalist and I've gotten all these opportunities and my whole career from just experimenting and having fun online. So yeah, I think I always tell people, it's great if you can monetize, get the bag. If somebody comes to you offering you thousands of dollars, why not? But I think it's really good to take that virality and leverage it into, I like what Kayla Scanlan does, or Kyla, she's the economics YouTuber, and she gives all these talks about econ now, and she has a newsletter, and she's able to just do a lot more. It's not just doing a bunch of brand deals online. It's like using it to launch a career and whatever you want to have a career in.Michael Jamin:Yeah, see, I see. That's the funny, I think it's so smart what you're saying. I see some people, I'm like wondering, what's your end game out of this? Is it just to, but what you're saying is the end game, it's interesting. The end game is to do something else. And I wonder if that's what's going on with Hollywood people when I'm encouraging people to, I don't know, put theirselves out there with their art, their writing their music or whatever in my mind, to build an audience following to basically, so you can do the next thing. But I'm wondering how often that if you see that happening for people,Taylor Lorenz:I think the smart ones do recognize it. I feel like the internet, you're just hopping from lily pad to lily pad a lot of the time, which I know that's how a lot of creative people feel. It's just like, I think internet fame in itself can be a goal. I mean, look, someone like Mr. Beast, you've done it. You crack the code. Most people are not going to reach that level. And so it makes a lot of sense. If you're really into food, you're making food content, use that to open your own restaurant or food line or whatever, but use it to go into something that you're interested in because then you still, you always have that online audience. I still have my online audience. I have people that have followed me for a decade and maybe they know me from my blog or I had a Snapchat show in 2016 or things that I've done over the years, but it's always in service of my broader career.Michael Jamin:And so Well, maybe tell me what that is. Do you have a broader goal ahead of all this? Other than getting a book, which is pretty impressive.Taylor Lorenz:I know. I never thought I would write a book. And then just, there was a lot of revisionist history once the pandemic hit in 2021 and all these venture capitalists were pouring money into the content creator world, and TikTok was taking off. People were just kind of like, they were rewriting history. And I was like, I'm going to write the definitive history. I've been around for this. And I always thought it would be interesting to write a book. I didn't know anything about the publishing industry, except I have a couple friends that did those Urban Outfitters typeMichael Jamin:Books. That's so funny.Taylor Lorenz:See,Michael Jamin:Oh, go ahead. I don't cut you off. So your broader goals. Oh, yeah.Taylor Lorenz:I love media. I love media. I want to keep working in media. I love creative sort of endeavors. I like writing. I make videos as I am very obsessed with news media, so I wantMichael Jamin:To, right. So maybe more of that. There's a couple of things in that book, in your book that kind of took me a little bit by surprise. One is there are, well, first of all, I think there are people who make content. This is just my opinion, their content's a little disposable. And so you spoke about people who, I don't know, it's like pranksters who they got to keep upping the prank until it comes to a point where this one woman you're talking about, she was sick to her stomach with the pressure of having to come up with something all the time. And to me, it felt like that's because you're making, I guess I have a rule. I have a rule. I was like, I don't want to spend more than 10 minutes a day on this. But there are people who spend on posting, but there are people who put way a lot of time and pressure on this, and it winds up destroying themselves, don't you think?Taylor Lorenz:Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, there's a whole bunch of that in my book of just the burnout. And I think, like you said, it comes from just making content for content's sake and feeling like it's an extra burden and giving it, it's also when it's your whole livelihood, the stakes become higher. That's why I say you should diversify a little bit.Michael Jamin:Yeah. There was another, the thing that really surprised me that I learned from your book, because I'm a little older, so I don't really know all this stuff, but there's a whole culture of content creators who their job is just to talk shit about other content creators.Taylor Lorenz:And I'm like,Michael Jamin:Oh my God. And I've witnessed some of this stuff, but I didn't realize it's really a thing, like a gossip. They're just gossipers, right?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. They basically have replaced tabloid news for the internet, and yeah, it's a huge drama channel industrial complex online that you're lucky if you've not encountered.Michael Jamin:Yeah. And do they go anywhere with, what do you think is the end game for them?Taylor Lorenz:Well, I mean, the woman that runs DUIs, which is more of a blind item, celebrity news page, she has a podcast. She also, she wrote a novel kind of based around the content. Others like Diet Prada have really successful newsletters. A lot of the other commentators like Keemstar and stuff, their goal is just to basically run these media empires of gossip, kind of like a TMZ for the internet.Michael Jamin:And then how are they further monetizing though?Taylor Lorenz:They monetize through partnerships and brand deals and a lot through YouTube ads. They get a lot of views. A lot of them get a lot of views on YouTube.Michael Jamin:See, I just turned, maybe I'm crazy, but I turned down a brand deal today because I thought, I don't know, it doesn't align with anything that I stand for. And I was like, am I crazy for turning this down? Or I don't know. But have you get approached by things that, are you turning stuff down?Taylor Lorenz:Well, yeah, I have to turn down so much stuff. I'll never forget a tech company, which I will not name, offered me $60,000 to do three video, three audio chat rooms for them.Michael Jamin:What is an audio chat room?Taylor Lorenz:Like? A live chat type thing? It was going to be like three hours of work. And obviously I couldn't do it because I can't take on sponsored content. I'm a journalist. You can't do that, especially not with a tech company. But I have to say that one really made me question my career choices. Normally people are like, can you promote X, Y, Z? And I explained that I don't do.Michael Jamin:So there's nothing that you can promote a journalist. There's nothing.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, I could theoretically probably promote companies that I don't cover, but I don't really want to, I don't need to make $500 promoting a mop.Michael Jamin:Right, right. Yeah, it's so interesting. You have to protect what you, it's so odd because I don't see a lot of people making brand when I'm scrolling through my pages for you a page on TikTok, I don't see a lot of people making brand deals, but I guess they are, right? Am I not seeing it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, the branded content doesn't always live on TikTok. A lot of times they'll create whitelisted content that the brand then promotes in a TikTok ad.Michael Jamin:Wait, when you say white, okay, explain this to me. So whitelisted means the creator. Go ahead.Taylor Lorenz:The creator creates branded content, but it doesn't necessarily live on their feed. They create it for the brand, and then the brand will use that video they made to the creator, like, wow, I love my air stick selfie thing. They'll run ads. So it's using that creator's likeness in the ad. It's the video that they made, but you're not going to see it on their page. You're going to see it in the,Michael Jamin:But do they not put it on their page or you're not going to see it? No one's going to watch it.Taylor Lorenz:Sometimes they do put it on their page, sometimes they don't. I mean, all of these are negotiated in the terms of the ad deals, which are structured increasingly in complicated ways. But I mean, there's a lot of spun con on TikTok. Also, sometimes there's product placement on TikTok. You'll see people doing videos with certain products. Sometimes the products have paid to be in their,Michael Jamin:And they have to mention this, right? They have to, I wasn't aware of this, but theoretically, yes, theoretically. But you're saying they don't always mention it. They don't always say, this isTaylor Lorenz:The sponsor. So the FTC says Yes, and I write about that decision in 2017 when they had to do that. The thing is that a lot of times they can get away with not saying it because it's not directly sponsored. For instance, you could have a long-term, year long partnership with the brand. They could be giving you tons of free product, but they didn't directly pay you for that post. So you feel like, oh, I don't have to disclose it,Michael Jamin:But they paid you for something. I mean, that doesn't make sense. They paid you. It's totally great. Okay. Yeah. ButTaylor Lorenz:People get around it by kind of fudging things.Michael Jamin:Who would get in trouble then if they got caught? The brand, not the TikTok or whatever.Taylor Lorenz:Not really. I mean, they went after Kim Kardashian. If you're that level, they'll go after you. But normally they're going after the brands. The brands are usually doing this. And also it's ultimately the brand or the agency that's running the marketing campaign that's up. It's up to them to enforce it and be like, Hey, put this in your caption.Michael Jamin:You said something else that surprised me in your book is that at one point, maybe it's still this way that the agencies are making the money and many of the creators are not getting that money. Explain to me what happens. I read it twice. It's like, wait, I'm missing something. SoTaylor Lorenz:There's been this explosion in sort of middlemen agencies, management companies that have come in. And what they do is they find these up and coming creators, they sign them into contracts like, Hey, I'll handle all your spun con, or I'll come in and do this deal. And then they take a huge portion, the brand pays maybe a hundred thousand dollars for a campaign. The agency will come in and take 50% of that or something, and then the rest goes to the creators. They allocate it, soMichael Jamin:They're getting something. You couldTaylor Lorenz:Argue that they are providing a service, and that's true, but the less ethical agencies are less upfront about the amount that they're taking.Michael Jamin:Interesting. Oh, they don't tell you how much it is? Probably,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. They won't tell you what the brand originally paid. They'll just say, oh, it's $10,000 for this campaign. Nevermind that we got a hundred thousand dollars from the actualMichael Jamin:Brand. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's so much to be careful. There really is. And so I asked you a little bit earlier if you knew of many. Okay, so I'll let give you an example from my experience. So I did a show, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago, maybe not maybe 10. And the studio, we had a cast a role, and the studio wanted to get an influencer to play the part because this influencer had a bigger audience than the network had. And he turned it down several times because the money, he was going to paid a lot of money, but the money wasn't worth it to him. He was making more on a daily, which I was shocked about. And so do you know more? Can you speak more to that?Taylor Lorenz:That happens all the time. Yeah.Michael Jamin:Really?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah.Michael Jamin:I thought this guy was crazy, but okay, go on.Taylor Lorenz:Well, I mean, for a lot of content creators, their goal, it depends on the content creators. Some content creators, their goal is to get into Hollywood, and that would be an amazing opportunity for them. But especially the ones at the upper echelon, they're already the a-list of the internet. They're making millions of dollars. They really don't need to engage. And maybe it's a fun thing if they want to do it, and they have time and it's like a novelty type thing, or it adds some sort of legitimacy to them. But a lot of times, if they're spending, for instance, hours on a set, that's money out of their pocket that they could be making a lot. So it kind of doesn't make sense. And people have struggled. Not every content creator succeeds as well. So I think some of them do have that feeling of like, look, I'm really good at this. I know I'm really good at this. I'm making money. Do I want to gamble? Take time away from that. Try my hand at this thing that maybe I have and succeeded at before. It's not always there.Michael Jamin:Maybe I shouldn't even ask this on as we're being recorded. Do you know this guy, nurse Blake? Have you heard of him?Taylor Lorenz:I don't think so. Wait,Michael Jamin:Okay. Because I can't tell if he's a comedian or a nurse, but whatever he is, he's selling out arenas.Taylor Lorenz:Oh, I know this guy. I've seen him before. Yes. He's a comedian, right?Michael Jamin:Well, he doesn't act, but I also see him also posting in the hospital. It seems like he could be selling out arenas, but also he likes doing the rounds or something. I don't know. Yeah.Taylor Lorenz:So it's so funny. I don't know when you joined TikTok, but the earliest content creators on TikTok back in 2018, when it flipped from musically to TikTok, the earliest groups of content creators that emerged were police officers, nurses and service workers. And they were all gaining huge audiences. And I think it's because those jobs have an enormous amount of downtime, and they kind of almost have interesting stages themselves. They're always in the hospital or at Walmart working or whatever. And so there's a lot of people like that on social media that have kind of pivoted their career in that way to,Michael Jamin:Okay. I've been on a TikTok for maybe two and a half years, and at first I was very self-conscious. I was like, isn't this the app where teenage girls shuffle dance? Am I going to be the creepy guy on this app? And you're saying, it's so hard to tell. I mean, the first time, my first week and a half of posts were like this, this is cringey.Taylor Lorenz:They always say, you know what? My favorite quote is that I think all the time Xavier from Party Shirt said this, that everything is cringe until it gets views. And I think that'sMichael Jamin:True. Until it getsTaylor Lorenz:It's popular. It's not cringe anymore,Michael Jamin:I guess. So when you first started posting, did you look to anyone for, I don't know, to emulate?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. I mean, there's this woman, Katie nais, who's still hilarious internet person, and she's a blogger too. She ended up working at Buzzfeed for a decade. I always just wanted to be like her. She was so creative and funny. She had this website called, I think it was called Party something. She would aggregate really funny party photos, and she just was really good at finding funny things on the internet.Michael Jamin:And do you know, have you reached out to her?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, now I'm friends with her because I've been obsessed with her for my whole career. So sheMichael Jamin:Very really, so now you have a friendship with her. That's nice. Do you get recognized a lot when you're out and about?Taylor Lorenz:Not in la. No one gives a shit about me in la.Michael Jamin:But when you're out somewhere else, if I'm notTaylor Lorenz:VidCon or something, yeah, usually. I mean, I got recognized in DC on my book tour when I was eating. That was cool. But yeah, sometimes, I mean, when I was doing my Snapchat show, I got recognized a lot more, I think, because a lot of kids were seeing me on the Snapchat Discover Channel thing.Michael Jamin:I was on your link tree, you're everywhere, but are you active on every, I'm like, damn. She's on every platform.Taylor Lorenz:I'm an equal opportunity poster. Well, I mean, I cover this world, so I kind of feel obligated to be on everything. I definitely think Instagram and TikTok are my main ones. And then I have threads also now,Michael Jamin:Which I, are you making different content you posting? Are you reposting or posting brand new stuff? Everywhere.Taylor Lorenz:I repost. If I make a short video for TikTok, I repost it on reels and YouTube shorts. YouTube's always the one that I like. I'm so lazy about, honestly,Michael Jamin:It's hard to grow on YouTube. It's soTaylor Lorenz:Hard to grow, and I don't know, it's just like there's something demoralizing about YouTube.Michael Jamin:Interesting.Taylor Lorenz:But yeah, I think it's because it's like, you know how it is, it's like you post something, you get a hundred thousand views on TikTok, it's doing really well on Instagram. And then you go on YouTube and it's like me, 2000 views, and you're like, oh, I'm aMichael Jamin:Failure. What's the point of that? And you were blocked. Are you still blocked from Twitter or whatever? Twitter is?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Elon banned me for a while. I did get back on. I don't really, Twitter is dead to me, honestly.Michael Jamin:What did you do to get banned?Taylor Lorenz:I was, well, he banned me under this rule that he made that said you couldn't promote your links to other social media profiles. And I was promoting my Instagram account, so that's what he technically banned me under. But what he really banned me for is that I reached out to him for comment. I wrote a story about how he completely lied about a bunch of stuff, and I reached out to him for comment. And the minute I reached out to him for comment, I got banned. And then he tried to say, oh, it was actually because she was promoting her Instagram. No,Michael Jamin:That was Oh, interesting. So do you think he was guy, do you, you made it he enemy. He responds. He knows who you are and hates you.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Oh, he definitely, yes. I mean, I've interacted with him somewhat frequent basis, but that week I was not the only journalist that was banned for reporting on him. So the same week, drew Harwell, my colleague was banned, and then a bunch of people from the New York Times, we all got banned within a week, soMichael Jamin:Wow. BackTaylor Lorenz:On.Michael Jamin:And then they let you back on. Interesting. And then you're, screw this.Taylor Lorenz:But yeah, Twitter is also just very toxic and political, and I think culture is happening more on TikTok.Michael Jamin:Don't you think they're all toxic?Taylor Lorenz:Oh, totally. But I think Twitter's uniquely toxic. TikTok is toxic in a different way.Michael Jamin:Okay. I want to know what you think the differences are in each platform, because I have opinions, but Okay. Yeah. What are your differences? I mean,Taylor Lorenz:Twitter is just very political, and it's political in a way that there's a lot of, especially as a member of the media, it's like there's a lot of journalists on there. I think it's a giant group chat for a lot of media people. It's stressful. Editors, bosses are on there. I don't really use it. I use it to keep up with, I'm super immunocompromised, and so I keep up with Covid News on there. It's really the only thing I use it for. It's really hard to get news and information because Elon has sort of made so many changes to make it hard to get news on there. So I don't mess with Twitter. TikTok I love. But yeah, I mean, TikTok is just mob mentality. So I mean, I'll never forget. I defended, do you remember West Elm Caleb?Michael Jamin:No. And it's so funny when you say these names. I'm like, these ridiculous names. I'm like, no, I don't know that comic book character.Taylor Lorenz:Okay, well, west Elm Caleb a year and a half ago was getting canceled on TikTok. He was a guy that ghosted a bunch of people. He ghosted a bunch of women, and a bunch of women went on TikTok, like, this guy's a ghoster. And it got so crazy that he got fully doxxed and fired from his job. And anyway, I defended him and I was like, Hey guys, can we calm down a little bit? We haven't even heard this guy's side of the story. I believe he shouldn't be an asshole to women, but I've been doxxed. It sucks. Don't do that. And TikTok, they came for me hard on that one. They were like, no,Michael Jamin:No,Taylor Lorenz:Somebody from West Tom, Caleb.Michael Jamin:And then, yeah. How worried are you about, I worry about that. How worried about you getting haters and stuff?Taylor Lorenz:I've gotten haters. I write about YouTubers for a living. So if I was worried about haters, it doesn't matter. My friend is a pop music writer, and he was saying, he told me a couple years ago, because if anytime you are covering something with a fandom, you're going to deal with haters. And they're vicious, but a lot of them are 11 years old, or they're just online and they're mad andMichael Jamin:Okay. Do you respond to your posts comments on your post? You do.Taylor Lorenz:I do. I try to mean, don't try not to respond to haters. Sometimes I'm weak and I do respond to the haters, but noMichael Jamin:Good comes of it. Right? When you do, no,Taylor Lorenz:No good comes of it. But sometimes you just, I don't know. You just got to, butMichael Jamin:Even if you respond with kindness, which I did today to somebody, he just doubled down on his stupidity. They don't care. Why am I trying to,Taylor Lorenz:They don't care at all. They're like, fuck you.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. No, it doesn't help. I mean, sometimes if I'm bored, I've replied something, but I mostly just ignore those people, or I limit my comments and I try to keep it to that only my community's engaging and not a bunch of randos. Or if they have a good faith question, I get a lot of story ideas from people commenting. Or sometimes smart people will comment, you click on their profile, you're like, oh, cool. Person's interesting. Right.Michael Jamin:Okay. Okay. So you sound emotionally mature about this whole thing? Maybe more than I am because I get upset sometimes.Taylor Lorenz:No, trust me, I've had my moments. It's hard. But I think I've just been through it so long. I've been through the cycle so many times that I'm immune.Michael Jamin:And do you talk to your colleagues who, I guess, are they as active as you are on, let say on TikTok? No. Other reporters?Taylor Lorenz:Journalists are not. It's weird with journalists on TikTok. They're not really, journalists are so addicted to Twitter. Twitter is where everyone in the media is. And there's some journalists on TikTok, but not that many. So the ones that are, I think we all try to support each other,Michael Jamin:Or it's just not competitive. Yeah, it's supportive. You think?Taylor Lorenz:I try to be supportive. I don't, like somebody said this really early on of Don't compete collab or something. It was like early thing. And I really like that. I felt that with blogging too. I had made friends with a lot of bloggers. We were all in the same group. And it's just like the internet is really vast and everyone is unique. AndMichael Jamin:There's not tooTaylor Lorenz:Many internet culture reporters either. So,Michael Jamin:Well, that's a question I can't tell how big TikTok is. Sometimes I'll see, oh my God, this creator knows that creator, and they talk whether they stick to each other. I'm like, wow, this is a small place. But then I'm wondering, well, maybe I'm only seeing this wedge of the pie, and it's actually much larger. I can't get a sense of how big this thing is.Taylor Lorenz:It is really big. I mean, it's like billions of users, so it's really big. But I do think that inMichael Jamin:Terms of the creators though, theTaylor Lorenz:Creator community is smaller than you think. And I think the people that are really active, they form a network. And you're always going to get people that are a couple degrees away from people that you follow usually.Michael Jamin:Yeah. Where do you think, I'm certainly not the first person to say this, but during the early days of Instagram, it was always about people. This is the glamorous life. It was all made up. It was like they got sponsored posts to be on a yacht or whatever. They're pretending to be rich and famous or whatever. And because we're all idiots, we're like, wow, they're rich and famous, and they're living that life. And then that somehow evolved to now influences turn to creators, and creators are more authentic. This is my life. Take it or leave it. What do you think there's next? What comes next after that? Do you have any idea? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:I mean, I think we always flip back and forth between aspirational versus authenticity. And people want a little bit of both. People still want the aspirational content. It's just not everything. And I do think that the authenticity is part of the appeal, and I don't think it's going away anytime soon. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, different content formats perform well depending on what the platform is promoting. So right now, they really want long form video. So I think we're going to see people that succeed in long form grow faster.Michael Jamin:But do you think when you're posting, maybe you don't even want to answer this on the air. I wouldn't blame you. Are you thinking about, oh, this post will do Well, I should talk about this. I know it'll do well. Or is it like, this is what I'm talking about, take it or leave it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. It depends on the day. Some days so many times where I'm like, oh, I know this would do well, but I just don't feel like posting today.Michael Jamin:Oh, really? EspeciallyTaylor Lorenz:Lately, oh my God. There's been so many things where I'm like, oh, that's going to go viral. And then I see somebody else posted and I'm like, good. They got the traffic. You have to be early on something. And then sometimes just most stuff I just post because I think it's interesting, and it's just my taste and news and information and just something I found interesting. But howMichael Jamin:Long will you spend on a post? Do you do it again and again until you get it right? No. One take and you're done?Taylor Lorenz:Usually, maybe I'll do two or three if I might rerecord something, but I don't take it that seriously. It's just one of many things I'm doing during the day, so not, and especially since I've been on book tour, I've just been too busy to make. I go through periods and it depends on how busy I am, how many videos I'm making.Michael Jamin:And how much of your personal life, because I know you're talking about technology and you're interviewing people and you're covering events like a journalist, but how much of yourself do you share?Taylor Lorenz:I share my opinions. I mean, I'm very opinionated, and I think I always tell people that you can be very authentic. And I think a lot of people would find me to be very authentic person online. I'm not a shy person or something, but I don't talk about my personal information. Also, it's not that interesting, I think. Oh, butMichael Jamin:People would love to know. People would love to know. I know Date youTaylor Lorenz:Nosy. They're nosy. But I think about all the cool stuff that I did in my twenties, and I'm like, I wish I had TikTok, I think back then, and I was talking about my life more. I was doing more and going out more. And now I'm like, I have a little bit more of a chill life. So sometimes I talk about walking around the Silver Lake reservoir or something, but I'm not like, if I go to a really interesting event, maybe I'll share it. I mean, I just went to Dubai and I actually haven't posted yet, but I'm making a video about that.Michael Jamin:I can't believe you went. That flight is just too long. I would think it wasTaylor Lorenz:So long. It was so long. But I got invited to this book festival, and I thought, when else am I going to go?Michael Jamin:Okay, what is a book festival?Taylor Lorenz:So there's this really big book festival called the Sharjah International Book Festival, and it's huge. And there's thousands of authors and books, and yeah, I got invited to speak, and I thought,Michael Jamin:Oh, you're speaking. So what if you're not speaking, what happens to Is everyone, okay? If you weren't invited to speak, would you be at a booth? What is it? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:You just attend. I mean, there's thousands of people that attend and they just come from all over to, there's a lot of book buyers, and then there's a lot of publishing industry people in the Middle East and in Europe and that side of the world. And then there's just a lot of people that are interested in meeting the authors, going to panels. There's a lot of celebrity author type people there.Michael Jamin:Who's setting that up? Your publisher or who?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, the publisher. Actually, I think maybe my book agent forwarded it to me. They were forwarded it to me, look at this random thing, and I was like, no, that's so cool. I want to do it.Michael Jamin:Oh, wow, really? And so did they fly you out?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, they flew me out. They didn't pay me or anything. They just flew me out and covered my travel, which honestly was enough for me. It was pretty cool. HowMichael Jamin:Many days were you there?Taylor Lorenz:I was only there for three, four days. Four days,Michael Jamin:Including the flight, which was theTaylor Lorenz:Travel was a day on each side because the travel wasMichael Jamin:Long. And then you were there for the rest of the time, and you spoke on the panel? I was on the panel. That's an hour,Taylor Lorenz:Michael. I just did tourist stuff. I didn't have to do anything aside from that, so I was like, let me just go.Michael Jamin:Oh, okay. So it was a chance for you to be a tourist.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. My friend is an editor over there for Bloomberg, and so we hung out and just did all the cool Dubai stuff together.Michael Jamin:But I'm curious because it's interesting, since you were a journalist, are we supposed to know anything about you? I mean, are there rules? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:It's so funny. So the old school sort of notions of journalism is like, I'm serious, and I don't talk about my life, and I never share an opinion. I think that's a very outdated and dumb model of journalism that nobody will trust. That's why we have a crisis in media, I think, of trust is because people don't know about, there's so much mistrust in the media, and I'd much rather be upfront with my beliefs and tell people, Hey, look, this is what I'm thinking about the issue. Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I'm right? Ultimately, the goal of writing any article is to be fair and accurate.Michael Jamin:WeTaylor Lorenz:AllMichael Jamin:Have. I thought you weren't supposed to be biased. I thought you were supposed to. Why do I know? I thought you supposed to. This is theTaylor Lorenz:Fact everyone. Everyone has opinions, right? There's no such thing on earth. The point is, is that you're not allowed. You shouldn't let that kind of shape the story to the point that it alters the truth. But to act like, oh, I don't have opinions as a journalist, that's stupid. We're all human beings. We all have opinions. Baseball writers that write about sports teams, they still are fans of a specific team. That doesn't mean that it's going to shape their coverage. That's the most important thing. It's like, I might love or hate certain things on the internet, but I'm not going to let it affect some story to the point that it would be truthful. You know what I mean?Michael Jamin:This gets into something else. Whereas you're kind of maybe, I don't know if this isn't the right word, but a celebrity journalist, because you recently had a photo spread in this magazine, and they're dressing you up and couture, right? I mean, so what's that about? You're celebrity journalist.Taylor Lorenz:I know. I've been in a couple things like that. Yeah, I mean, look, journalists have always been, it's always been a public facing job. It's always been a public. I mean, Woodward and Bernstein, obviously. Bob Woodward also works at The Post. He's incredibly famous. Anderson Cooper, Barbara Walters, the original female journalist, Katie Couric. All these journalists are, well-known household names because of their journalism, but of course, they're also people. And I think with the internet now, that's all come to a smaller scale. I'm definitely not at those people's levels at all. But with the internet, I think we all follow journalists and content creators. And again, it goes back to transparency. That's what I think is a big problem with that old model of media, where it's like, don't ever speak your opinion or something on anything. Because I think actually when you don't and you try to sort of act like, oh, I don't have an opinion, that's a lie.Everyone has an opinion on everything. Or maybe, but you should just be honest about it because that helps people trust you. I can be like, look, I don't love, this is a total example. I do love Emma Chamberlain, but I could be like, I don't love Emma Chamberlain, but I had the opportunity to interview her editing style was pioneering. It transformed YouTube. I wrote about it in my book, X, Y, Z. I'm not going to let my personal feelings about her color, but I would answer questions about it. If somebody asked me, I'd be like, well, here's my thoughts.Michael Jamin:Okay, so what is your daily life then? Do you freelance all these? How does it work? What is your life?Taylor Lorenz:No, I work for the Washington Post. So I am on our morning meeting every day at 8:00 AM on Zoom.Michael Jamin:Okay. Is no one, well, that's a good question. Is everyone online now? If you work for the Washington Post, does no one go to the office?Taylor Lorenz:They have a big office in Washington, but I moved out here with the New York Times, so I was at the New York Times for several years, and New York Times does have an office in la. So they moved me out here, and then the Post recruited me, and I was like, well, I'm not leaving la. And they have a lot of people from the post in LA obviously as well. Are youMichael Jamin:From, I thought you were from la. No,Taylor Lorenz:No. I live in la, but I'm from New York originally.Michael Jamin:Oh, where are you in New York? Are you from?Taylor Lorenz:Well, I lived on the Upper East Side when I was little, and I lived all over New York. I've lived, I think 11 different neighborhoods,Michael Jamin:But all, not all in Manhattan?Taylor Lorenz:No, no, no, no. Mostly in Brooklyn. I was in Fort Green before I moved.Michael Jamin:Okay. I didn't know that. So you're a New Yorker. Okay. Yeah. And then not anymore. So are you pitching them ideas or are they telling you, this is what we want you to cover today?Taylor Lorenz:It's a mix. I would say it's probably like 80 to 90% coming up with your own ideas. The rest of it. Sometimes there's an editor assigned story. Most of the time it's breaking news. So for instance, the war breaks out. I cover TikTok. I cover the content. So they're like, well, is there an angle on it?Michael Jamin:Why is news? My God. So what is most of your day then? Is it surfing the internet, or is it making calls to experts or whatever?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, it's a mix. I wish it was surfing the internet all day, but it's a lot of meetings, a lot of, we have editorial meetings where we discuss coverage and we all give feedback on our stories. And I have meetings with my editor to talk about stories. I write features, so I generally write longer pieces. Sometimes I'm working on investigations for months.Michael Jamin:And then how did you have, go ahead. GoTaylor Lorenz:Ahead. Oh, yeah, it's a mix of, I do a lot of interviews and I do a lot of informational interviews, and I do a lot of consuming content andMichael Jamin:Keeping Well, then where did you get the time to write this book? It sounds very busy.Taylor Lorenz:I know. And I didn't take book leave like an idiot. I was like, I'll just do it nights and weekends.Michael Jamin:People go on book leave.Taylor Lorenz:Leave, yeah. But it's unpaid, so that's how they get you. And I didn't want to do that, so I thought I'll just try to do it all on top of my job. And I did, but it took me two years.Michael Jamin:Are you working on your next book? What's that?Taylor Lorenz:No, I'm not doing another book.Michael Jamin:You're done for now, but you will at some pointTaylor Lorenz:Maybe. Sure. Like yours. I don't want to do that right now.Michael Jamin:It was really hard. Why? I know. It was a lot of work, a lot of research, andTaylor Lorenz:Just the fact-checking. I interviewed about 600 people for the book, and it was just a lot. And throughout it all, I make videos, I do. I speak at things. I go to events. I have a lot going on in between.Michael Jamin:And how are you getting these speaking engagements? You're a celebrity now?Taylor Lorenz:No. No, but I talk at industry conferences type stuff a lot. Just like VidCon or things likeMichael Jamin:That. What is VidCon? Stop talking. I know what I'm talking about. I don't even know what that is.Taylor Lorenz:Wait, Michael, you need to come to VidCon next year.Michael Jamin:I don't even know what it is.Taylor Lorenz:Oh my God. VidCon is the largest, soMichael Jamin:Ignorant.Taylor Lorenz:No, no, no. You know what? You would have no reason to know it. It's the biggest conference for, it's a convention for online content creators. It's in Anaheim every year. They also have VidCon Baltimore this year. But it's a big convention where all the big content creator type people get together and the industry sort of.Michael Jamin:So are you going as a guest or are you going as a speaker?Taylor Lorenz:I've mostly, in recent years, gone as a speaker, but I used to go as a guest.Michael Jamin:And so what do you do as a guest?Taylor Lorenz:As a guest, you get to meet your biggest, you meet the big content creators that are there, talkers meet and greets. You go to panels, you can go to events. There's parties. It's kind of like a fun thing if you're up and coming or you care about the internet. It used to be a really big thing. I mean, I talk about this a little bit in the book, but it started in 2010, and it started as this small thing of just the biggest creators on the internet getting together just because there was no event, physical event. And then it got bought by Viacom, and now it's this huge.Michael Jamin:So now they reach out to you to say, we want you to be on a panel or something.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, I'm always talking about, sometimes I do interviews with big content creators on the main stage. They need somebody to interview Charlie Delio or something. And so I'll do that. Sometimes. I'm talking about, I mean, I did one, I think it was last year or the year before, on news content creators. That's something that people always want me to talkMichael Jamin:About all. So we don't live far for each other. So we'll ride fair. If you like riding in a Jeep, you're not afraid of writing into Jeep.Taylor Lorenz:I think you might be recognized. Maybe you'll be a speaker soon. They love the entertainment people. There was some women they had there one year. They always get some weird entertainment celebrity that has a YouTube channel to come, and they're always really out of place. It's very funny.Michael Jamin:They wait, why would they be out of place if they're famous? If they're a celebrity? They'reTaylor Lorenz:Not internet people. They don't even run their own channel usually.Michael Jamin:Oh, I see. So that's a whole different thing when celebrities put themselves. That's the thing. I read somewhere, well, I guess there was pushback when a celebrity gets on YouTube, it's like, Hey, or TikTok, get off TikTok celebrity. It's like, why is everyone so mad? But I guess maybe talk a little about that. What happens when they try to do that?Taylor Lorenz:I think it's just these old school entertainment. People come on and they don't really understand the app and they clearly are not doing it themselves. They have some content assistant and then they're like, Hey kids, I guess I have to be here now. And it's like, what are you doing here? I will say, the musicians do a better job. Megan Trainor has Chris Olsson, her TikTok buddy that, and music is such a part of TikTok. I feel like they get a warmer reception. But people, I mean, when Reese Smith first joined, people were like, they were in the comments being mean toMichael Jamin:Her. Aren't you rich enough? Reese? But there is some woman I follow, and I was shocked. I'm like, there's so many ways that people are making on this. And she talks about politics, so she's like a punt. That's her passion. So I'm like, okay, let's get her take on it. But she also does these, they're called TRO trips. Have you heard of this TRO Trotro trip? And so basically it's this website. So she'll run a trip in Europe, we're going to Italy for a week, come onto this and you can pay her basically to be your tour guide.Taylor Lorenz:Oh, this, I see. It's like a host. They're hosting you for the tour. Interesting. Oh my gosh,Michael Jamin:Yes. I'm like, how smart. So she basically gets a free trip, but she has to be with people for a week. She's the host. Well,Taylor Lorenz:They were doing that with our New York Times when I was at the New York Times. I think they stopped doing it because one of the reporters was being controversial on the trip, and I think they kind of scaled back the program, but I think they were like, actually, we don't want our reporters talking to the public. But they used to have people travel with New York Times reporters, and that was a way that the New York Times made money off journalists.Michael Jamin:Oh, wow. And for the same kind of thing where let's go tour the Vatican or something.Taylor Lorenz:It would be like tour the Vatican with the TimesMichael Jamin:Reallys recording or whatever. It's so weird. But there's just so many ways for people to, I don't know, make a name for themselves. I was good for her.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, totally. I mean, there's just endless ways to monetize online.Michael Jamin:I haven't discovered any of them yet, but I'm waiting for it. I got my eyes peeled, but okay, so yeah, so you go to this VidCon thing, you do a panel, and then people want your opinion. And I imagine it's people a lot smaller than you who aspire to be you.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Or it's just people in different industries that are there to learn more about the industry or It's a lot of brand people too. The head of marketing for Walmart or something.Michael Jamin:Oh, really?Taylor Lorenz:Want to understand the ecosystem.Michael Jamin:Oh, so they're not talking, I don't know, conferences. I don't know what this is about. It depends.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, sometimes those people, if they're really good, I mean, I actually know the woman who runs the Walmart, influencer marketing was also at this event I was at recently. So that's a bad example. But a lot of times it's like marketers, maybe they're not totally in it yet, or they're a brand that wants to understand the content creator world, but they don't. Maybe they're not doing that yet, or they want to do more of it. So they go to these events to build connections. AndMichael Jamin:So you're saying, I should go to this thing.Taylor Lorenz:I think you should go to VidCon. It's interesting. It's fun to just go to once. And there's a lot of fans there too. So there's the industry side, then there's the fan side, and then there's just all these sort of adjacent events.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my content, and I know you do because listening to me, I will email it to you for free. Just join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos of the week. These are for writers, actors, creative types, people. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you, and the price is free. You got no excuse to join. Go to michaeljamin.com. And now back to what the hell is Michael Jamin talking about?Alright, so what about other people who have, I guess, transition from, I guess I'm saying, what I'm thinking is how can we help my listeners into, I don't know, everyone turns to me for like, Hey, what should I put on? It's like, I don't know, just build a following. Do you have advice for them?Taylor Lorenz:Everyone asked me the same thing, and I'm like, I wish it was easy. If I could give you a three step thing, we would all have millions of followers. I mean, a huge part is consistency, which is very hard. And I have to say, you post forever. You can't get obsessed with the views because people just quit and they feel like, oh, if you have an audience of 500 people, that really matters. It is very much about creating more of a community of people, and it is scale. So I think it's just, that's so valuable, and it also matters who's following you, rather than just getting random views. You want influential or interesting or whatever type of market you're trying to go for. You want the right people to follow you.Michael Jamin:Well, this is something that I was always perplexed at the beginning of TikTok, so I guess both of them, but on TikTok, you have followers that are, I get all these followers. I'm like, but if I have all these followers and only a 10th of them are seeing an average post or less, what's the point? Why? Why do I keep track of this metric? Why do they have the metric of followers if they don't show it to your followers?Taylor Lorenz:The way that I explain TikTok is following is just one signal to the algorithm. It's one signal out of probably thousands. And so it's useful. It's like, I have an affinity to this person. Obviously, you follow people too. Then you're mutuals, and then you can DMM with each other more, or comment. Sometimes you can put videos to Mutuals only. So there is a value, I think, in following, but most of people's experience is of consuming content on TikTok is obviously through the for you page. So I wouldn't even, followers doesn't matter that much, right?Michael Jamin:It doesn't.Taylor Lorenz:And also it's like, again, it goes back to who is following you. There's so many creators that people always wonder this with press, because people are like, why? How do I get written about? And it's really not about how big you are. It's like, do you have something new and interesting, or have you cultivated some sort of unique audience that maybe hasn't been served before? Things like that. So you don't have to be the biggest,Michael Jamin:Well, I say this, there's this one guy, I'm trying to remember his name, but he has a show, he's sold a show somewhere. I should know his name, but it was a Twitter feed, and he was just writing, he had a thriller. So every day he posts a little different line from this thriller he was writing. Oh, cool. And then it just blew up because it's mystery and suspense, and people wanted to find out what was in the basement or whatever. Then he was able to, I was like, oh, that's a good idea. So he did it. And so I don't know. Are you following any other people who do anything like that?Taylor Lorenz:Twitter. Twitter. There was this period on Twitter where there were a lot of TV writers and comedians were trying things out there, and you could really get traction, and people were looking at Twitter. Now, no one's looking at that anymore. I would say it's much more TikTok and Instagram for comedy, and that's just where it is. But I mean, things people make, I mean, I was interested, this guy, Ari Kagan, who is kind of like a young director, content creator. He doesn't like to be called a content creator, but he just sold a show with Adam McKay, where they're making it for TikTok.Michael Jamin:They're making it for TikTok. Wait a minute, what does that mean?Taylor Lorenz:They're going to make it on TikTok. It's going to live on TikTok, I guess,Michael Jamin:But not as, what we do is some kind of different TikTok channel or something where it's long form.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, yeah, it's, hold on, let me find it. I want to actually get it right. Oh, yeah. Here. It's a series that they're making on TikTok. Hold on. It happened when I was, okay. I just put it in the chat. Okay. Yeah, I think it's scripted. Yeah, it's a scripted series to run on TikTok.Michael Jamin:So you may or may not. That means you may or may not see it like we were just talkingTaylor Lorenz:About. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I guess they're hoping that it'll perform well. I'm sure they're going to put paid media behind it, butMichael Jamin:Oh, okay. Oh, okay. How interesting. Yeah, this whole thing is so you got to be honest, people are always saying, how do I break into Hollywood? And I'm thinking, well, you don't need to. You can do this on your own.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, Ari did a lot on his own initially. I think that's how a lot of people get in there, is they sort of start making their own little projects. I mean, one person that I think has done this really well, he is an actor. His name is Brian Jordan Alvarez. Do you know him?Michael Jamin:No.Taylor Lorenz:Oh my God.Michael Jamin:So I got to know who.Taylor Lorenz:Alright,Michael Jamin:Put him in the chat.Taylor Lorenz:I'm going to put him in the chat. He was an actor on Will and Grace and he was in Megan, and he is very funny. I'll put, oh, he has a Wikipedia now. He's big time. He's an actor, but it makes this really amazing content. And he started making music online and these series online and I think it's like helped him a lot. I mean, everyone knows who he is now. He's been in Time Magazine and stuff, and it's mostly from his, he made this YouTube series a while ago that was popular, and then his tiktoks took off and he started making music. But it's like,Michael Jamin:All right, I got to follow this guy. You're sayingTaylor Lorenz:He's very funny, but it's just raised his profile a lot. I think what he does on the internet, and he does it in a really fun way. And I listened to him on a podcast recently, and he was just saying how it's led to more people kind of knowing his work, and obviously people see his work and then they want to work with you.Michael Jamin:Right. Do you have a podcast yet?Taylor Lorenz:Careful.Michael Jamin:Maybe I might tune.Taylor Lorenz:We'll see, I had one and then the New York Times made me quit it. The Times is crazy about outside projects, so I quitMichael Jamin:It. Oh, really? Hope that the post is not as, maybe they don't.Taylor Lorenz:They're better. That's why I work there now.Michael Jamin:Wow. You got your hand in so many different things. Yeah. I don't know. I just thought you're absolutely fascinated because you are an expert, but you're also in it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Is it overwhelming for you?Taylor Lorenz:I think I have good boundaries because I mean, I'm grateful to be a millennial where I think it's harder for the 22 year olds today where everything, their whole social life is so enmeshed in the internet. I think I have a healthy distance from it, and I have friends that are just my friends that aren't internet.Michael Jamin:So your boundaries are basically how much time you're willing to invest every day on being online. And also justTaylor Lorenz:Like I have a very strong sense of self, and I think when you get on the internet, everybody tries to push you into doing things or making content or being like, oh, you should do this, or, oh, you should do this. And I have always had a mind of, actually, I know what I want and I'm going to do this, and I'm just going to do only what I want. I know who I am if people, because it's hard on the internet and sometimes things perform well. So if I had continued to talk about my life, I think that probably would've performed well back when I was blogging, but I made the decision to just stop doingMichael Jamin:That. But you're right, if something's controversial, I try to steer away from controversy. I feel like I'm just here to talk about art and entertainment and writing and Hollywood, but I also know if I took a bigger stand on things and pissed people off, it would go viral. But then what's the point of this? I don't know.Taylor Lorenz:Then you get all these haters. I've written a lot of political stories that have to do with the content creator world and the political ecosystem, and so those are some of my most viral stories. But I have to say, it just gets you a lot of people that then follow you. They feel like, oh yeah, she's on our side on this, or whatever, or, oh, I hate her. She wrote about this content creator that. So I think it's just better to just be true to yourself. Yeah,Michael Jamin:Though I did a post couple, maybe when I first started off and it went, somehow Yahoo picked up on it and I was on Yahoo Entertainment News. My first reaction was, oh no. You know what I'm saying? Oh no. People know about me. It felt wrong. I don't know. I was like, I don't want people knowing about me.Taylor Lorenz:I know. It feels really, I mean, I've struggled with that a lot, and I actually really like being in LA for this reason. I was thinking just the past few years, more and more people start to know who you are and start writing about you, and that is such a mind fuck. I used to really believe, oh, every journalist is so great and they only have the best interests at heart of, and that is just not true. Unfortunately, there's a lot of places that just aggregate things for clicks and whatever, or they're very partisan in certain ways, and yeah, it's very hard. I used to run around trying to correct people. I tried to correct my own Wikipedia page, and then now I'm like, I gave up on all of that. I don't care.Michael Jamin:See, that's something I still frightens me a little bit is when people will stitch me or they'll make me the face of whatever argument they want. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Keep me out of it. I never said any of this. I didn't sign up for that. This is your thing. I know that frightens me a little bit,Taylor Lorenz:I think, because everybody uses each other as characters online, and so it's like you're the main character. Then you just use all these other people around you as supporting characters and whatever you're trying to do on the internet,Michael Jamin:I thinkTaylor Lorenz:Really, butMichael Jamin:Well, that's what scared me about what you wrote in your book, but those people who just, they're whatever, they gossip about other tiktoks like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This just feels so wrong to me. Just do your own thing.Taylor Lorenz:I know.Michael Jamin:Don't try to cancel me. What are you doing?Taylor Lorenz:I know my first job in media was at the Daily Mail, and it was such a great training ground for media because tabloid news is just so relentless, and