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This week's episode of the pod features Dena and special guest, Ashley, as they run through some January trends. Ashley goes through her top TikTok moments of 2024 including Catalina's love for the Brian Jordan Alvarez dance videos. Then they talk about the newest trend: big back (@meggyirl). Dena shares other videos on her FYP including the Beyonce Jan 14 announcement predictions (@iam_kjmiller, @thesoftestbunny_) as well as @jesswells58 talking about how we should have chosen reality TV > college. Ashley got a hilarious Nuuly haul video by @marygrace.burton on her FYP. Then they took a turn for the dark into NYC-Tok with videos about the subway (@jamesssryan), congestion pricing (@hereinnyc), and the carpet guys (@perezbrenna). On Food-Tok, they talk about Bradley Cooper's new cheesesteak spot and frozen popcorn (@allrecipes). The newest audio trend Dena has seen is a lovely rendition of Rich Girl and they end talking about the Golden Globes. Check out all the videos we mention and more on our blog (2old4tiktok.com), Instagram (@2old4tiktokpod), and TikTok (@2old4tiktok_podcast).
It's our favorite annual tradition, as ADHD-DVD's Hayley Leier stops by to talk about the best TV of the year. And since TV spent most of the year getting back on track after last year's strikes, it was kind of a weird year without a clear consensus favorite. But we still had plenty of winners to talk about as we dig into Fargo, The Bear, Girls5Eva, Somebody Somewhere, Interior Chinatown, and so much more. For the second week in a row, there's an attempt to figure out how famous Eiza Gonzalez is, plenty of tangents, and some real talk with North America's most trusted culture critic. CONTENT WARNING: We recorded this before the allegations against English Teacher creator Brian Jordan Alvarez were made public. Additionally, we do discuss Baby Reindeer, which means there is some non-graphic, non-specific, and respectful discussion of sexual assault. If you would like to skip either of these sections, the time codes are: English Teacher - 7:00 - 16:30 Baby Reindeer 1:07:35 - 1:19:30
Vocês pediram e o Matinê clássico voltou!!! Desta vez, abarrotado de recomendações para salvar as suas maratonas de fim de ano. Tem lançamento, coisa velha, filme de Natal, séries e até livro. Então, já se prepare para fazer uma looooonga faxina, porque tempo você vai ter. Comentado durante o podcast: 02:46 - Sorria 2 (2024, Dir: Parker Finn) 31:45 - Dragula (Temporada 6) 50:35 - Terrifier 3 (2024, Dir: Damien Leone) 01:03:17 - Pisque Duas Vezes (2024, Dir: Zoë Kravitz) 01:20:07 - A Garota da Vez (2024, Dir: Anna Kendrick) 01:37:16 - Livro: Garotas Brilhantes, de Jessica Knoll 01:50:35 - Strange Darling (2024, Dir: JT Mollner) 02:05:17 - Your Monster (2024, Dir: Caroline Lindy) 02:15:25 - Abraço de Mãe (2024, Dir: Cristian Ponce) 02:21:53 - Herege (2024, Dir: Scott Beck & Bryan Woods) 01:43:14 - Sombras da Noite (2012, Dir: Tim Burton) 02:55:06 - Salem's Lot (2024, Dir: Gary Dauberman) 03:07:02 - A Górgona (1964, Dir: Terence Fisher) 03:15:09 - English Teacher (a série do Brian Jordan Alvarez) 03:42:46 - Bloco: Coisas da Marvel A Gata Desde Sempre (Minissérie de Jac Schaeffer) Deadpool & Wolverine (2024, Dir: Shawn Levy) The Franchise (série de Jon Brown) 04:11:20 - Sweetpea (minissérie de Kirstie Swain) 04:19:05 - Bloco: Coisas de Natal da Netlix No Ritmo do Natal (2024, Dir: Peter Sullivan) Natal com Dolly Parton (2020, Dir: Debbie Allen) Hot Frosty (2024, Dir: Jerry Ciccoritti) Nosso Segredinho (2024, Dir: Stephen Herek) A Mãe da Noiva (2024, Dir: Mark Waters) Apresentado por: Luiz Machado - @machadolue no Instagram João Neto - @jonetooo no Instagram Alvaro de Souza - @alllvarusdesouza no Instagram Confira o nosso site: https://www.esqueletosnoarmario.com/ @esqueletosgays no Twitter e Instagram Visite o mural do apoia.se/esqueletosgays para ouvir episódios exclusivos. Nossos perfis no Letterboxd são: https://letterboxd.com/zcomluiz/ https://letterboxd.com/alvarosouza/ https://letterboxd.com/netodojo/
Things we discuss include:Is the silent treatment a form of emotional abuse?Rosemary's very low-cut jeans.Adam Brody's Stylist cover.Brian Jordan Alvarez, everyone's favourite English Teacher.The dark stalker fantasy Rosemary read is called Lights Out by Navessa Allen. Content warnings abound.Lee Child's decision to hand his Jack Reacher series over to his brother.Karrie Locher, who Rosemary loves, on Instagram.If you're in the US and would like to pre-order Rosemary's book, you can do that right now on bookshop.org, Amazon.com or from Barnes & Noble.And if you have questions email us! notwithoutmysis@gmail.com. While you're at it, leave us a five-star review! We love those. DM us on Instagram @notwithoutmysister.Join our Patreon! patreon.com/notwithoutmysister – bonus content, ad-free listening and more. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chris and Taylor review the sitcom television series English Teacher created by Brian Jordan Alvarez. Alvarez stars as high school teacher Evan Marquez who finds himself at the intersection of professional, political, and personal aspects of working at a high school. The series includes Stephanie Koenig, Sean Patton, Carmen Christopher, Langston Kerman, Jordan Firstman and Enrico Colantoni. Follow us on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepotential_podcast/ X: https://x.com/thepotentialpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thepotentialpodcast Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/thepotentialpodcast Thanks to our sponsor: Better Help Get 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp by going to https://betterhelp.com/potential
Brian Jordan Alvarez, known for roles in Will and Grace and Megan, is now the creator, star, and director of the new hit comedy English Teacher. The show's sharp humor and strong cast make it a must watch this fall. Learn More: https://viewpointsradio.org/culture-crash-our-review-of-english-teacher-one-of-our-favorite-new-tv-series Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Beers make their return to podding after taking a month-long hiatus, immediately diving right into the shenanigans as they relive Yung Joc's 2006 hip hop banger, It's Goin' Down, and the true story of Tom Cruise dancing to the track on BET (0:22). The Beers introduce The Drink of Choice - coffee (2:32), then Dylan offers his recommendation for the Japanese horror thriller AUDITION (6:30), followed by another recommendation, Hulu's ENGLISH TEACHER starring Brian Jordan Alvarez (11:22). In the second half, The Beers discuss their SATURDAY NIGHT reviews (15:20), looking back on growing up during the evolution of SNL (20:24), wrapping it up with their final thoughts of the movie's cast and memorable moments (29:30). The Beers round out the episode with 10 Letterboxd movies (37:01)- Letterboxd Movies -SCARY MOVIE, NOPE, US, THE REPLACEMENTS, THE LIGHTHOUSE, THE LITTLE THINGS, SAW, PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, BURN AFTER READING, THE BATMAN, BATMAN RETURNS.Now sip back and enjoy the show!CATCH THE BEERS ON YOUTUBE!https://www.youtube.com/@thewrapbeers Created by upStreamhttps://www.upstreampix.com/the-wrap-beers-podcastFollow The Wrap Beers Podcast!https://www.instagram.com/thewrapbeers/https://twitter.com/TheWrapBeersDylan - https://www.instagram.com/dylan_john_murphy/Roger - https://www.instagram.com/rogerzworld/Letterboxd - https://letterboxd.com/wrapitupb/Music by: Matt Kuartzhttps://www.instagram.com/mattkuartz?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw%3D%3D
Q&A on the FX series English Teacher with actor/creator/showrunner/director Brian Jordan Alvarez. Moderated by Mara Webster, In Creative Company. It follows Evan, a gay high school English teacher, and his coworkers as they try to balance the demands of the students and their parents.
We're throwing what we think about celebrity endorsements out the window after the US election results. Endorsements from Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Bruce Springsteen, Bad Bunny and Cardi B couldn't help Kamala Harris in a race where Donald Trump had the likes of Joe Rogan – the world's biggest podcaster – and Elon Musk – the world's richest person – in his corner. Stop Everything! show daddy Benjamin Law and English teacher-turned comedian Urvi Majumdar join BW live on stage from the OzAsia Festival in Adelaide to debrief on the US election, and chat through everything there is to love about hit comedy The English Teacher, created by TikTok singing and dancing star Brian Jordan Alvarez. Show notes:Brian Jordan Alvarez on Stop Everything!ABC Fresh Blood series: "Urvi went to an all girls school"
Brian Jordan Alvarez and Stephanie Koenig made the jump from YouTube to Hulu's 'English Teacher.' Introducing a KCRW original podcast we think you'll enjoy, The Sam Sanders Show. Watch the full episode on YouTube or follow the show here.
This Popcorn Spesh we're watching Unsolved Mysteries, Love is Blind, and the scandalous Netflix doco about the WWE founder Mr McMahon. We also chat Kath & Kim, Drag Race UK, and Brian Jordan Alvarez's new series English Teacher. Love u xoxoGive us a rating & follow us here:https://www.instagram.com/popgayspodhttps://www.tiktok.com/@popgayspod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week, Brain Jordan Alvarez, the creator and star of English Teacher, plays our game with Brian Babylon, Luke Burbank, and Emmy BlotnickLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
Neste episódio, exploramos English Teacher, a nova comédia da FX criada por Brian Jordan Alvarez, que traz o choque entre gerações e visões políticas ao ambiente escolar. A trama acompanha Evan Marquez, um professor de inglês millennial que tenta fazer a diferença em uma escola pública no Texas. Entre alunos provocadores, colegas resistentes e temas polêmicos como identidade e cultura de armas, a série aborda questões contemporâneas com humor refinado e inteligente. Será que English Teacher se tornará um novo clássico das sitcoms? #EnglishTeacher #FX #BrianJordanAlvarez #Séries2024 #Comédia #ChoqueDeGerações #Sitcom #LGBTPodcasters
Jezzie and Sigi kick off Season 7 of The Halo Halo Podcast by continuing with the back to school theme and focusing on the FX sitcom English Teacher starring Brian Jordan Alvarez. With a killer soundtrack from hits of the 80s and 90s, the sitcom pulls you in to the life of teacher Evan Marques in Austin as he navigates school life and connecting with Gen Z world. With an engaging group of colleagues including his bestie Gwen, tired Principal Grant Morretti, and gym teacher Markie they deal with wokeness, interfering parents and challenges faced in the public school system. The 8 episode first season is filled with laughs, guest appearance from Trixie Mattel, battling school boosters and addressing generation gaps with millennials and gen z. Later Jezzie discusses Gen Z in the Filipino diaspora and that holding multiple truths may enable generations to reconcile with one another.
This week's episode of 2 Old 4 TikTok begins with Dena regaling Catalina with tales of the NY Liberty game and potentially contracting West Nile Virus before they delve into the topics at hand. First up they discuss the @snl TikTok segment. Next, in the FYP segment Catalina shares @feyanhoffman's video of signing Vroom Vroom at a series of Charli XCX concerts, and Dena discusses a cheerleading incident (@camreactzz) and @averymcclure0's reflections on the joy of TikTok. After a quick NYC updates about a Pigeon sculpture, they move on to audio trends, including an update on Brian Jordan Alvarez's commitment to the “I love your daughter” sound clip, and a song/image trend by creators like @pearl.akdnzz. The girls wrap up episode highlighting two content creators: @tswiftfan420 and @playrikki. Check out all the videos we mention and more on our blog (2old4tiktok.com), Instagram (@2old4tiktokpod), and TikTok (@2old4tiktok_podcast).
Art the Clown from 'Terrifier' three could not join host Neal Pollack for this week's BFG podcast because of various disgusting commitments, but Stephen Garrett is always available. He stops by the Pod Dome to talk about 'Saturday Night,' Jason Reitman's ode to the opening night of Saturday Night Live. Stephen liked the film, he enjoyed its ramshackle "let's put on a show" vibe and has warm, fuzzy memories of the early days of watching the program. Neal found the movie twitchy and annoying and overly reverential, though he did admire some of the celebrity impersonations and loved the cheap shots at Milton Berle. It's a film that celebrates something that doesn't really need to be celebrated.'English Teacher,' now streaming on Hulu since its initial run on FX has ended, is one of the best-reviewed and least-watched shows of the year. Critic Matthew Ehrlich takes time out from digging a swimming pool in his backyard by hand to praise the show and its creator Brian Jordan Alvarez for one of the best and least woke depictions of gay life ever put to screen. Neal also really digs the show and the Texas setting and finds the side characters charming and delightful. Above all else, the show is funny, and it's also short, and it's something you really should watch.Your opinion about 'Megalopolis' will vary from frame to frame. Neal and Stephen Garrett have a blast picking apart the weird phenomenon of a $100 million boondoggle made by Francis Ford Coppola, an 85-year-old man. Coppola is doing things that we haven't seen in movies since the 1930s. Whether or not that's a good thing will widely depend on the viewer. But we can all agree that Aubrey Plaza knows exactly what kind of a movie she's in, and boyo, does she deliver the goods as a character named Wow Platinum.Thanks for listening to the BFG Podcast, with your new host, Wow Platinum.
You may know Brian Jordan Alvarez from the killer horror film M3GAN or from his web series The Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo. Most recently, Brian created and stars in the FX comedy series English Teacher, a refreshingly hilarious original that follows a high school teacher navigating personal and professional life in Texas. It's critically acclaimed and canonically GAY! This week, Brian schools us on the series AND talks about the work of filmmakers that inspire him, including Pedro Almodóvar's ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER. Plus, one deep cut of Brian's viral internet spiritualist, the one and only Marnie T. Then Jordan has one quick thing about Timo Tjahjanto's newest action film The Shadow Strays. It's out today on Netflix!***With Jordan Crucchiola and Brian Jordan Alvarez.
Welcome to That One Audition! Today's guest is the multi-talented Stephanie Koenig, a Michigan native who got her start in performance through dance competitions before earning an acting degree from Michigan State University. A comedy veteran, she sharpened her skills at Upright Citizens Brigade and Groundlings, frequently collaborating with some of their biggest names. Koenig's acting credits span from starring roles in English Teacher and Lessons in Chemistry to notable appearances in The Flight Attendant and The Offer, where she portrayed casting executive Andrea Eastman, helping to assemble the iconic cast of The Godfather. Behind the camera, Koenig has made waves by writing, directing, and starring in projects like A Spy Movie alongside frequent collaborator Brian Jordan Alvarez, as well as her hit short-form series Stupid Idiots, which was in development at Paramount TV. These are the unforgettable stories that landed Stephanie Koenig right here. CREDITS: English Teacher Lessons in Chemistry The Offer The Flight Attendant Modern Family Swedish Dicks Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Stupid Idiots Sick Girl GUEST LINKS: IMDB: Stephanie Koenig, Actress, Producer, Writer INSTAGRAM: @stephaniekoenig THAT ONE AUDITION'S LINKS: For exclusive content surrounding this and all podcast episodes, sign up for our amazing newsletter at AlyshiaOchse.com. And don't forget to snap and post a photo while listening to the show and tag me: @alyshiaochse & @thatoneaudition MAGIC MIND: Get 48% off with promo code ONEAUDITION20 SLAYTEMBER: Starting September 15, 2024! THE BRIDGE FOR ACTORS: Become a WORKING ACTOR THE PRACTICE TRACK: Membership to Practice Weekly PATREON: @thatoneaudition CONSULTING: Get 1-on-1 advice for your acting career from Alyshia Ochse COACHING: Get personalized coaching from Alyshia on your next audition or role INSTAGRAM: @alyshiaochse INSTAGRAM: @thatoneaudition WEBSITE: AlyshiaOchse.com ITUNES: Subscribe to That One Audition on iTunes SPOTIFY: Subscribe to That One Audition on Spotify STITCHER: Subscribe to That One Audition on Stitcher EPISODE CREDITS: WRITER: Erin McCluskey WEBSITE & GRAPHICS: Chase Jennings ASSISTANT: Elle Powell SOCIAL OUTREACH: Alara Ceri
Introducing Brian Jordan Alvarez on “English Teacher” from The New Yorker Radio Hour.Follow the show: The New Yorker Radio HourBetween book bans, the movement for parental rights, the fight over cellphones, and budgets being slashed, life in a public school is stressful—and a fertile ground for comedy. Brian Jordan Alvarez created and stars in “English Teacher,” débuting this season on FX. Alvarez has been an actor for many years, with a role on the reboot of “Will & Grace,” among many others, but he burst into viral fame on TikTok with a goofy song about the virtues of sitting, sung in a strange accent. Suddenly everybody was talking about him—including the staff writer Vinson Cunningham, who spoke with Alvarez recently. The new show is a much more conventional kind of social comedy, focussed on a gay Latino English teacher in Texas. “Evan wants to be, and is, in so many ways, essentially an out, proud gay guy,” Alvarez explained to Cunningham. “But how does that feel in this school with all these different forces coming at him?” DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
Between book bans, the movement for parental rights, the fight over cellphones, and budgets being slashed, life in a public school is stressful—and a fertile ground for comedy. Brian Jordan Alvarez created and stars in “English Teacher,” débuting this season on FX. Alvarez has been an actor for many years, with a role on the reboot of “Will & Grace,” among many others, but he burst into viral fame on TikTok with a goofy song about the virtues of sitting, sung in a strange accent. Suddenly everybody was talking about him—including the staff writer Vinson Cunningham, who spoke with Alvarez recently. The new show is a much more conventional kind of social comedy, focussed on a gay Latino English teacher in Texas. “Evan wants to be, and is, in so many ways, essentially an out, proud gay guy,” Alvarez explained to Cunningham. “But how does that feel in this school with all these different forces coming at him?”
Welcome Aboard Drag-Her-Zonian Airways. It's Drag Her International: the ONLY way to get your international Drag Race Tea-S.A. with Mano Agapion & IMHO IQONs Darby Lynn Cartwright & Alexis P Bevels! GET MORE IMHO HERE! Go watch RuPaul's Drag Race Global Allstars on Paramount+ or WOW Presents+ to stay updated! KIKI with us at Drag Her's IG! PREPARE TO GAG, WHORES!!!!! PROPS TO YA, DWOTUR!BUY OUR MERCH! 50% of everything we make goes to The Okra Project!If you rate Drag Her 5-stars on Apple Podcasts & leave us ANY UNPOPULAR RPDR OPINION, we'll discuss it on the pod!!!!! DO IT!!AND PLUS AND!!! Go to our IG to watch our super special IG LIVES covering Drag Race UK! Black Lives Matter. DONATE NOW!Listen to Drag Her on Stitcher, download the app, or get more info at stitcherapp.com/dragher!Get more Mano on We Love Trash & Podcast Killed The Video Star!FX's English Teacher is a new comedy created by and starring Brian Jordan Alvarez, and from the Executive Producer that brought you What We Do In The Shadows. English Teacher follows Evan, a teacher in Austin, Texas who learns if it's really possible to be your full self at your job while often finding himself at the intersection of the personal, professional, and political aspects of working at a high school. FX's English Teacher premieres September 2nd on FX. Stream on Hulu. https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacherSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This week on The Treatment, Elvis welcomes actor, writer, and director Brian Jordan Alvarez who created and stars in the new FX comedy English Teacher. Then, Will & Harper director Josh Greenbaum talks about his documentary which follows Will Ferrell and Harper Steele on an eventful and moving road trip across the country. And for The Treat, The Veil star Elisabeth Moss talks about a composer whose work informs her acting and directing.
Welcome Aboard Drag-Her-Zonian Airways. It's Drag Her International: the ONLY way to get your international Drag Race Tea-S.A. with Mano Agapion & Don't Cross A Gay Man IQON Misha Brown! GET MORE MISHA HERE! Go watch RuPaul's Drag Race Global Allstars on Paramount+ or WOW Presents+ to stay updated! KIKI with us at Drag Her's IG! PREPARE TO GAG, WHORES!!!!! PROPS TO YA, DWOTUR!BUY OUR MERCH! 50% of everything we make goes to The Okra Project!If you rate Drag Her 5-stars on Apple Podcasts & leave us ANY UNPOPULAR RPDR OPINION, we'll discuss it on the pod!!!!! DO IT!!AND PLUS AND!!! Go to our IG to watch our super special IG LIVES covering Drag Race UK! Black Lives Matter. DONATE NOW!Listen to Drag Her on Stitcher, download the app, or get more info at stitcherapp.com/dragher!Get more Mano on We Love Trash & Podcast Killed The Video Star!FX's English Teacher is a new comedy created by and starring Brian Jordan Alvarez, and from the Executive Producer that brought you What We Do In The Shadows. English Teacher follows Evan, a teacher in Austin, Texas who learns if it's really possible to be your full self at your job while often finding himself at the intersection of the personal, professional, and political aspects of working at a high school. FX's English Teacher premieres September 2nd on FX. Stream on Hulu. https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacherSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Steffan and Gavia review (and recommend!) the critically acclaimed new sitcom English Teacher, created by Brian Jordan Alvarez, who you may know from The Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo. Alvarez stars as a gay teacher working at a Texas high school, in a comedy that satirizes the chaos of American politics and the generational divide between elder millennials and Gen-Z.
Chris and Andy talk about the trailer for 'The Last of Us' Season 2 that was released this week (1:00), the new Natasha Rothwell comedy 'How to Die Alone' (23:07), and the latest episode of 'Slow Horses' (37:44). Then they are joined by Brian Jordan Alvarez to talk about the making of his series 'English Teacher' and how veteran comedy TV writer Paul Simms helped him bring it to the screen (49:32). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guest: Brian Jordan Alvarez Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
English Teacher is an American comedy drama television series created by Brian Jordan Alvarez for FX. Alvarez stars as Evan Marquez, a high school teacher in Austin Texas who finds himself at the intersection of personal, political, and professional aspects of working at a high school. The series has been met with mostly positive reviews with The New York Times saying the show "Finds Surprising Humor in Polarizing Subjects". Will the S1E1 boys share that sentiment? Listen as they deep dive the show's pilot episode. Starring: Brian Jordan Alvarez, Stephanie Koenig, Enrico Colantoni, Sean Patton, Carmen Christopher, & Langston Kerman www.S1E1POD.com MERCH Instagram & X (Twitter): @S1E1Pod
Welcome Aboard Drag-Her-Zonian Airways. It's Drag Her International: the ONLY way to get your international Drag Race Tea-S.A. with Mano Agapion & Canada's Drag Race IQON Aurora Matrix! GET MORE AURORA HERE! Go watch RuPaul's Drag Race Global Allstars on Paramount+ or WOW Presents+ to stay updated! KIKI with us at Drag Her's IG! PREPARE TO GAG, WHORES!!!!! PROPS TO YA, DWOTUR!BUY OUR MERCH! 50% of everything we make goes to The Okra Project!If you rate Drag Her 5-stars on Apple Podcasts & leave us ANY UNPOPULAR RPDR OPINION, we'll discuss it on the pod!!!!! DO IT!!AND PLUS AND!!! Go to our IG to watch our super special IG LIVES covering Drag Race UK! Black Lives Matter. DONATE NOW!Listen to Drag Her on Stitcher, download the app, or get more info at stitcherapp.com/dragher!Get more Mano on We Love Trash & Podcast Killed The Video Star!FX's English Teacher is a new comedy created by and starring Brian Jordan Alvarez, and from the Executive Producer that brought you What We Do In The Shadows. English Teacher follows Evan, a teacher in Austin, Texas who learns if it's really possible to be your full self at your job while often finding himself at the intersection of the personal, professional, and political aspects of working at a high school. FX's English Teacher premieres September 2nd on FX. Stream on Hulu. https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacherSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Three big series up for review this week – two from the US and one from the UK. A Very Royal Scandal (Prime Video, 3 episodes) Another production recreating the infamous Prince Andrew BBC interview with Emily Maitlis. This time Michael Sheen is Prince Andrew and Ruth Wilson is Emily Maitlis. The Penguin (Binge/Foxtel 8 episodes) Andrew loved this straight away, but it took James until episode 2 to get on board. Find out why Andrew was an early adopter and what two things changed James' mind. Colin Farrell is amazing, but we point out a scene stealer to watch out for. English Teacher (Disney+, 8 episodes) The surprise package of the week is this US sitcom about a gay high school teacher in Austin, Texas. It's not hard to fall in love with this and its cast led by Brian Jordan Alvarez (who also created the series) and the very funny Stephanie Koenig. Tough pick for a Show of the Week. Andrew and James chose different programs. What was the unlucky series that missed out?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Welcome Aboard Drag-Her-Zonian Airways. It's Drag Her International: the ONLY way to get your international Drag Race Tea-S.A. with Mano Agapion & Canada's Drag Race IQON Synthia Kiss! GET MORE SYNTHIA HERE and listen to SEMI-QUALIFIED QUEENS HERE! Go watch RuPaul's Drag Race Global Allstars on Paramount+ or WOW Presents+ to stay updated! KIKI with us at Drag Her's IG! PREPARE TO GAG, WHORES!!!!! PROPS TO YA, DWOTUR!BUY OUR MERCH! 50% of everything we make goes to The Okra Project!If you rate Drag Her 5-stars on Apple Podcasts & leave us ANY UNPOPULAR RPDR OPINION, we'll discuss it on the pod!!!!! DO IT!!AND PLUS AND!!! Go to our IG to watch our super special IG LIVES covering Drag Race UK! Black Lives Matter. DONATE NOW!Listen to Drag Her on Stitcher, download the app, or get more info at stitcherapp.com/dragher!Get more Mano on We Love Trash & Podcast Killed The Video Star!FX's English Teacher is a new comedy created by and starring Brian Jordan Alvarez, and from the Executive Producer that brought you What We Do In The Shadows. English Teacher follows Evan, a teacher in Austin, Texas who learns if it's really possible to be your full self at your job while often finding himself at the intersection of the personal, professional, and political aspects of working at a high school. FX's English Teacher premieres September 2nd on FX. Stream on Hulu. https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacherSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This Episode has EVERYTHING!It's got:Paul's irritation!Irritating tics!Leonard!Dave might just be a bit irritating...!Little brother, Dave!White person taco night!Pico de Gallo!Boring recipes!Paul's delicious salad dressing!"Hi! My name's Steve, and I'm a convicted sex offender!"Bring that sass!Don't eat Boar's Head Meat products!Paul doesn't give a S**T!Paul's connection to the new show, "English Teacher"!World DanceSport Federation names Raygun Number 1!Kidz Bop is creepy asf!"The Goonies"...Part 2?!Bad movie sequels!Dumpy is screwing Looney!Dave's algorithm is kittens!Facebook addiction is real!You have to pay taxes on your car every year in Virginia!Cybertrucks suck even more in Virginia!Paul saw a Cybertruck in the wild!Wrapped Cybertruck looks better than unwrapped!Episode Links (In Order):Jade's "Angel of My Dreams"!Dave's Pico de Gallo on Instagram!Boar's Head Meat Statement Re: Recall!Disgusting Boar's Head Meat plant!Boar's Head Meat recall!"English Teacher" on Wiki!Raygun named worlds #1 breaker!Raygun AI Assisted routine!Phil Hartman "Sassy's Sassiest Boy!"5-Year-old Breakdancer!Kidz Bop website!Kidz Bop Videos!"Cyberstuck" Subreddit!Wrapped Cybertrucks!Music Credit!Opening/Closing music graciously supplied by: https://audionautix.com/ Visit Our Patreon! Email Us Here: Disturbinglypragmatic@gmail.comWhere To Find Us!: Disturbingly Pragmatic Link Tree!
Here's what we covered today:YouTube gears up for election season by enlisting creators to combat deepfakes - TubefilterAdobe previews its upcoming text-to-video generative AI tools - The VergeRight-wing influencers were duped to work for covert Russian operation, US saysRussia Secretly Worms Its Way Into America's Conservative Media FX's new 'English Teacher' got his start on YouTube - TubefilterBabish enters next phase of culinary universe with multimillion-dollar investment - Tubefilter
On this week's show, the hosts revisit Beetlejuice (1988), the seminal film that marked Tim Burton's arrival onto the scene as a sort of grim fairy tale teller. 36 years later, the director and much of the original cast return for its sequel, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, a surprisingly sincere tale about the nature of death and grieving. Or, is it a total mess? The hosts discuss. Then, the three dive into English Teacher, a hilarious new FX series in which Brian Jordan Alvarez (previously known for online comedies like The Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo) plays Evan Marquez, a high school English teacher in Austin, Texas. Finally, chat podcasts (like the one you're listening to right now) are like dating and improv – to work, they necessitate a certain level of chemistry, intimacy, and vulnerability. The hosts are joined by New York Times culture critic Reggie Ugwu to discuss his recent piece, “What Makes Good Chemistry? For Chat Podcasts, It's Fundamental,” as well as the Gabfest's early days, the hosts first impressions of one another, and how they went about building their own unique rapport. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Julia joins last week's productivity discourse and widens its scope, and the hosts discuss the nature of “hacking life” and how our relationship to productivity reflects current American ideals. Email us at culturefest@slate.com. Endorsements: Dana: A spice shop that's been in the news: Penzeys Spices, in Pittsburgh. Check out Helen Rosner's 2018 piece on the shop for The New Yorker, as well as Penzey's sweet and spicy Cake Spice. Steve: Howard's End, a novel by E.M. Forster. Julia: A two-parter: (1) The single best piece of criticism about Avatar: The Way of Water, performed by English Teacher cast member Jordan Firstman (it's the second slide in the Instagram reel). (2) Season 8, episode 5 of Frasier entitled “Taking Liberties.” Victor Garber is a hilarious guest star – this is Frasier at his best. Podcast production by Jared Downing. Production assistance by Kat Hong. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's show, the hosts revisit Beetlejuice (1988), the seminal film that marked Tim Burton's arrival onto the scene as a sort of grim fairy tale teller. 36 years later, the director and much of the original cast return for its sequel, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, a surprisingly sincere tale about the nature of death and grieving. Or, is it a total mess? The hosts discuss. Then, the three dive into English Teacher, a hilarious new FX series in which Brian Jordan Alvarez (previously known for online comedies like The Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo) plays Evan Marquez, a high school English teacher in Austin, Texas. Finally, chat podcasts (like the one you're listening to right now) are like dating and improv – to work, they necessitate a certain level of chemistry, intimacy, and vulnerability. The hosts are joined by New York Times culture critic Reggie Ugwu to discuss his recent piece, “What Makes Good Chemistry? For Chat Podcasts, It's Fundamental,” as well as the Gabfest's early days, the hosts first impressions of one another, and how they went about building their own unique rapport. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Julia joins last week's productivity discourse and widens its scope, and the hosts discuss the nature of “hacking life” and how our relationship to productivity reflects current American ideals. Email us at culturefest@slate.com. Endorsements: Dana: A spice shop that's been in the news: Penzeys Spices, in Pittsburgh. Check out Helen Rosner's 2018 piece on the shop for The New Yorker, as well as Penzey's sweet and spicy Cake Spice. Steve: Howard's End, a novel by E.M. Forster. Julia: A two-parter: (1) The single best piece of criticism about Avatar: The Way of Water, performed by English Teacher cast member Jordan Firstman (it's the second slide in the Instagram reel). (2) Season 8, episode 5 of Frasier entitled “Taking Liberties.” Victor Garber is a hilarious guest star – this is Frasier at his best. Podcast production by Jared Downing. Production assistance by Kat Hong. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Welcome Aboard Drag-Her-Zonian Airways. It's Drag Her International: the ONLY way to get your international Drag Race Tea-S.A. with Mano Agapion & actor/writer/babe Chris Renfro! GET MORE CHRIS HERE and listen to ONE OF US! Go watch RuPaul's Drag Race Global Allstars on Paramount+ or WOW Presents+ to stay updated! KIKI with us at Drag Her's IG! PREPARE TO GAG, WHORES!!!!! PROPS TO YA, DWOTUR!BUY OUR MERCH! 50% of everything we make goes to The Okra Project!If you rate Drag Her 5-stars on Apple Podcasts & leave us ANY UNPOPULAR RPDR OPINION, we'll discuss it on the pod!!!!! DO IT!!AND PLUS AND!!! Go to our IG to watch our super special IG LIVES covering Drag Race UK! Black Lives Matter. DONATE NOW!Listen to Drag Her on Stitcher, download the app, or get more info at stitcherapp.com/dragher!Get more Mano on We Love Trash & Podcast Killed The Video Star!FX's English Teacher is a new comedy created by and starring Brian Jordan Alvarez, and from the Executive Producer that brought you What We Do In The Shadows. English Teacher follows Evan, a teacher in Austin, Texas who learns if it's really possible to be your full self at your job while often finding himself at the intersection of the personal, professional, and political aspects of working at a high school. FX's English Teacher premieres September 2nd on FX. Stream on Hulu. https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacherSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Diane chats with comedian and all-around wonderful human Ron Funches to talk LOOT and the business of comedy. Andy and Diane catch up on INDUSTRY's flawless season (so far), Netflix's THE PERFECT COUPLE, Netflix's MY WORST EX, the return of TELL ME LIES, and why everyone needs to watch FX's new comedy hit ENGLISH TEACHER. And as always, previews of upcoming premieres.
English Teacher is a new FX comedy created by and starring Brian Jordan Alvarez as Evan Marquez, a teacher trying to survive the chaos of high school life in Austin, Texas. On this podcast, we break down the two-part premiere (Pilot and Powderpuff), where Evan faces everything from difficult parents, to school politics, to 2024 student discourse. Alongside his best friend Gwen (Stephanie Koenig), the show blends sharp humor with everyday school chaos. Stick around as we discuss standout moments, our favorite/least favorite scenes, and predictions for where the series might head next. Welcome to Today's Episode!
The new FX comedy series "English Teacher" follows a high school educator in Austin as he attempts to connect with his students, and his colleagues, in a tumultuous political and social time. Creator and star Brian Jordan Alvarez joins us alongside co-writer Stephanie Koenig to discuss the series, which premieres on FX and Hulu on September 2.This segment is guest-hosted by Kousha Navidar
Whether it's the current hit "Abbott Elementary" or a classic like "Saved by the Bell," schools have provided a setting for a lot of television shows over the years. FX has a new program coming Sept. 2 called "English Teacher" that stars series creator Brian Jordan Alvarez. Alvarez plays Evan Marquez, a high school teacher in Austin, Texas, who has to deal with the personal and professional dramas that come with teaching. On this week's episode, the hosts discuss favorite shows in an educational setting and Bruce Miller shares part of an interview he had with Alvarez. Contact us! We want to hear from you! Email questions to podcasts@lee.net and we'll answer your question on a future episode! About the show Streamed & Screened is a podcast about movies and TV hosted by Bruce Miller, a longtime entertainment reporter who is now the editor of the Sioux City Journal in Iowa and Terry Lipshetz, a senior producer for Lee Enterprises based in Madison, Wisconsin.
Welcome Aboard Drag-Her-Zonian Airways. It's Drag Her International: the ONLY way to get your international Drag Race Tea-S.A. with Mano Agapion & Supermodel Arisce! GET MORE ARISCE HERE! Get tix to watch Mano in Edinburgh HERE! WOW! On this pod we cover ep 4 of CANADA VS THE WORLD: Season 2! Go watch RuPaul's Drag Race Allstars on Paramount+ or WOW Presents+ to stay updated! KIKI with us at Drag Her's IG! PREPARE TO GAG, WHORES!!!!! PROPS TO YA, DWOTUR!BUY OUR MERCH! 50% of everything we make goes to The Okra Project!If you rate Drag Her 5-stars on Apple Podcasts & leave us ANY UNPOPULAR RPDR OPINION, we'll discuss it on the pod!!!!! DO IT!!AND PLUS AND!!! Go to our IG to watch our super special IG LIVES covering Drag Race UK! Black Lives Matter. DONATE NOW!Listen to Drag Her on Stitcher, download the app, or get more info at stitcherapp.com/dragher!Get more Mano on We Love Trash & Podcast Killed The Video Star!FX's English Teacher is a new comedy created by and starring Brian Jordan Alvarez, and from the Executive Producer that brought you What We Do In The Shadows. English Teacher follows Evan, a teacher in Austin, Texas who learns if it's really possible to be your full self at your job while often finding himself at the intersection of the personal, professional, and political aspects of working at a high school. FX's English Teacher premieres September 2nd on FX. Stream on Hulu. https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacherSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
If you're lucky, it's possible you've never thought much about sitting. It's just something your body does, like breathing or sleeping. But in the last decade or so, sitting has stepped into the spotlight, as a kind of villain. In today's episode, Slate's Dan Kois tells us about his radical experiment to go without sitting for an entire month. Then to understand why sitting is under attack we look back at an earlier posture panic around slouching, and explore the role of hostile architecture. This episode was written by Max Freedman and Willa Paskin and produced by Max. We produce Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd and Evan Chung. Derek John is Executive Producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director. You heard “Sitting” by TJ Mack, aka Brian Jordan Alvarez, as remixed by Josh Mac. We'd like to thank Stephen Nessen and Rob Robinson. For some of the background on hostile architecture, we are indebted to the late Mike Davis's book, City of Quartz, and in particular Chapter 4: “Fortress L.A.” Check out Dan Kois' New York Magazine article about his exploits, “Sitting Is Bad for You. So I Stopped. For a Whole Month.” If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, we'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring and every other Slate podcast without any ads. You also get unlimited access to Slate's website. Member support is crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
If you're lucky, it's possible you've never thought much about sitting. It's just something your body does, like breathing or sleeping. But in the last decade or so, sitting has stepped into the spotlight, as a kind of villain. In today's episode, Slate's Dan Kois tells us about his radical experiment to go without sitting for an entire month. Then to understand why sitting is under attack we look back at an earlier posture panic around slouching, and explore the role of hostile architecture. This episode was written by Max Freedman and Willa Paskin and produced by Max. We produce Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd and Evan Chung. Derek John is Executive Producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director. You heard “Sitting” by TJ Mack, aka Brian Jordan Alvarez, as remixed by Josh Mac. We'd like to thank Stephen Nessen and Rob Robinson. For some of the background on hostile architecture, we are indebted to the late Mike Davis's book, City of Quartz, and in particular Chapter 4: “Fortress L.A.” Check out Dan Kois' New York Magazine article about his exploits, “Sitting Is Bad for You. So I Stopped. For a Whole Month.” If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, we'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring and every other Slate podcast without any ads. You also get unlimited access to Slate's website. Member support is crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
If you're lucky, it's possible you've never thought much about sitting. It's just something your body does, like breathing or sleeping. But in the last decade or so, sitting has stepped into the spotlight, as a kind of villain. In today's episode, Slate's Dan Kois tells us about his radical experiment to go without sitting for an entire month. Then to understand why sitting is under attack we look back at an earlier posture panic around slouching, and explore the role of hostile architecture. This episode was written by Max Freedman and Willa Paskin and produced by Max. We produce Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd and Evan Chung. Derek John is Executive Producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director. You heard “Sitting” by TJ Mack, aka Brian Jordan Alvarez, as remixed by Josh Mac. We'd like to thank Stephen Nessen and Rob Robinson. For some of the background on hostile architecture, we are indebted to the late Mike Davis's book, City of Quartz, and in particular Chapter 4: “Fortress L.A.” Check out Dan Kois' New York Magazine article about his exploits, “Sitting Is Bad for You. So I Stopped. For a Whole Month.” If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, we'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring and every other Slate podcast without any ads. You also get unlimited access to Slate's website. Member support is crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
If you're lucky, it's possible you've never thought much about sitting. It's just something your body does, like breathing or sleeping. But in the last decade or so, sitting has stepped into the spotlight, as a kind of villain. In today's episode, Slate's Dan Kois tells us about his radical experiment to go without sitting for an entire month. Then to understand why sitting is under attack we look back at an earlier posture panic around slouching, and explore the role of hostile architecture. This episode was written by Max Freedman and Willa Paskin and produced by Max. We produce Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd and Evan Chung. Derek John is Executive Producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director. You heard “Sitting” by TJ Mack, aka Brian Jordan Alvarez, as remixed by Josh Mac. We'd like to thank Stephen Nessen and Rob Robinson. For some of the background on hostile architecture, we are indebted to the late Mike Davis's book, City of Quartz, and in particular Chapter 4: “Fortress L.A.” Check out Dan Kois' New York Magazine article about his exploits, “Sitting Is Bad for You. So I Stopped. For a Whole Month.” If you haven't please yet, subscribe and rate our feed in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And even better, tell your friends. If you're a fan of the show, we'd love for you to sign up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to listen to Decoder Ring and every other Slate podcast without any ads. You also get unlimited access to Slate's website. Member support is crucial to our work. So please go to Slate.com/decoderplus to join Slate Plus today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Thursdays are for the BABES!!! This week the babes find out what their multi-talented guest, Harvey Guillén does in and out of the shadows. Special Shout Out to Brian Jordan Alvarez https://www.instagram.com/brianjordanalvarez/?hl=en Our Sponsors: JOYMODE - Go to usejoymode.com/code and get 20% off and free shipping with code HEYBABE at checkout. BetterHelp - Sal and Chris present: Hey Babe! is sponsored by BetterHelp visit BetterHelp.com/HEYBABE to get 10% off your first month Robinhood - Get started at robinhood.com/boost Factor - Head to FACTORMEALS.COM/HEYBABE50 and use code HEYBABE50 to get 50% off! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode, I have influencer/creator expert Taylor Lorenz. Tune in as we talk about her book, “Extremely Online: The Untold Story Of Fame, Influence, And Power On The Internet” as well as her experiences working as a journalist for “The Washington Post” and “The New York Times”. We also dive into some tidbits she has about social media.Show NotesTaylor Lorenz on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz/?hl=enTaylor Lorenz on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorlorenz?lang=enTaylor Lorenz on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp38w5n099xkvoqciOaeFagMichael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Newsletter - https://michaeljamin.com/newsletterAutogenerated TranscriptTaylor Lorenz:These old school entertainment people come on and they don't really understand the app and they clearly are not doing it themselves. They have some content assistant and then they're like, Hey kids, I guess I have to be here now. And it's like, what are you doing here? I will say the musicians do a better job. Megan Trainor has Chris Olsson, but TikTok buddy that, and music is such a part of TikTok, I feel like they get a warmer reception.Michael Jamin:You're listening to, what the Hell is Michael Jamin talking about? I'll tell you what I'm talking about. I'm talking about creativity, I'm talking about writing, and I'm talking about reinventing yourself through the arts.Hey everyone, what the hell? It's Michael Jamin talking about today. I'm going to tell you what I'm talking about. So for those of you who have been listening for a long time, I'm always telling you, just put your work out there. Get on social media, start making a name for yourself, because whether you want to be an actor or a writer or director, you got to bring more to the table than just your desire to get a big paycheck and become rich and famous. If you can bring a market, if you can bring your audience you're going to bring, that brings a lot to the table. And so my next guest is an expert on this, and she's the author of Extremely Online, the Untold Story of Fame, influence and Power on the Internet. I'm holding up her book. If you're watching this podcast, if you're driving in the car, you can imagine that there's a book and has a cover. So please welcome, pull over your car and give a round of applause to Taylor Lorenz. Thank you Taylor for coming and joining me for talking about this. It's an honor meeting you finally.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, likewise. Excited to be here.Michael Jamin:So you wrote this great book, which I read, and there's so much, I guess there's so much. You actually document the history starting from the beginning of mommy bloggers and all these people who kind of were at the forefront and then built a name for themselves on social media. And so I'm just hoping to talk to you about how we can take some of this information and apply it to the people who listen to my podcast and follow me on social media so that they can help do the same. So I guess starting from the beginning, what was interesting that you pointed out is that women were kind of at the forefront at this whole thing. You want to talk about that a little bit?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, definitely. I mean, I talk about this in the book, but in the turn of the millennium, the early aughts, this blogging was taking off and there were tons of blogs, and I talk about some of the big political and tech blogs at the time, but it wasn't really until the mommy bloggers entered onto the internet in the early aughts who were these moms, these stay at home moms that really had nothing else to do. A lot of them were shut out of the labor market, and they turned to blogging and ended up really building their own kind of feminist media empires by building audiences. And they were the first to really cultivate strong personal brands online and then leverage those personal brands to monetize.Michael Jamin:And you're right about, I remember this may have been 10 years ago or maybe longer, one of my friends, our screenwriter, she developed a TV show on these mommy bloggers. And I'm like, wait a minute. And there was a couple of people who did that. Max Nik, who was a guest on my podcast a while, a couple weeks ago, same thing. He wrote a show based on shit my dad says, but it's on a Twitter feed and there's all these people. It's so interesting. I was a little late to the game in terms of Hollywood exploiting all these markets, these people who are making names for themselves. Lemme back up for a second though. Why did you decide to even write this book?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, so I started covering this. I started as a blogger myself a little bit later.Michael Jamin:What were you blogging?Taylor Lorenz:I was blogging about my life, a lot, about my life and a lot of about online culture stuff. I thought that the mainstream media was really bad at covering the internet, and so I thought, I'm going to write about the internet. This was when I was young millennial, right out of college.Michael Jamin:You were writing about your personal life?Taylor Lorenz:Yes.Michael Jamin:Okay. So that's a whole different thing. You're opening yourself up to everything. And was there any, I know I'm jumping around here, I guess I have so many questions, but I don't know, was there backlash from that? Were there repercussions? Because we're talking about people do this. What's the backlash?Taylor Lorenz:Well, this was like 2009, so it was such a different internet, and I'm so grateful, honestly, that I was blogging in that era and not this era because I think I didn't get a lot of backlash. I had a great community. I met some of my best friends, were other bloggers from that era. I became very popular on Tumblr for my single serving like meme, like blogs. So yeah, I think when you're young, you're just kind of trying a lot of different things out. I didn't know what I wanted to do out of college. I'd never studied journalism. I didn't know I was working at a call center and just became popular on the internet and then was like, I guess I'm pretty good at thisMichael Jamin:Stuff. Really? I didn't know that about it. You have a pretty big following on TikTok and Instagram as well, which is so weird because you're writing about something that you are also participating in. I mean, it's almost meta how you are, what you're talking about. No,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. I mean, I started, had I been able to monetize my blog nowadays, content creators on TikTok, they can monetize in 2009, 2010, couldn't, the best that you could hope for was one of those book deals that Urban Outfitters. Right?Michael Jamin:ButTaylor Lorenz:You couldn't really leverage it into much. I ended up just leveraging it into a career in media, which has been fun. ButMichael Jamin:See, this is what's interesting to me because right now you see so many people on social media, how do I monetize this? Meaning ads or even sponsorships, but there's other ways to monetize outside of brand deals or views on YouTube getting used. So yeah, there's a whole, I don't know. Do you think that's a large percentage of people on the internet? It seems like to me most are doing it to monetize for the brand deals. What's your take on it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, I think now that you can monetize in that way, a lot of people, that's their end goal. I'm kind of glad. I mean, it's a double-edged sword. Who knows what I could have done if I was able to monetize, but I'm really glad actually that you couldn't, because I think myself and a lot of other bloggers, we ended up going in a lot of different ways and entering into a lot of media type of jobs that, yeah, I mean would've never gotten otherwise. And I've learned how to be a journalist and I've gotten all these opportunities and my whole career from just experimenting and having fun online. So yeah, I think I always tell people, it's great if you can monetize, get the bag. If somebody comes to you offering you thousands of dollars, why not? But I think it's really good to take that virality and leverage it into, I like what Kayla Scanlan does, or Kyla, she's the economics YouTuber, and she gives all these talks about econ now, and she has a newsletter, and she's able to just do a lot more. It's not just doing a bunch of brand deals online. It's like using it to launch a career and whatever you want to have a career in.Michael Jamin:Yeah, see, I see. That's the funny, I think it's so smart what you're saying. I see some people, I'm like wondering, what's your end game out of this? Is it just to, but what you're saying is the end game, it's interesting. The end game is to do something else. And I wonder if that's what's going on with Hollywood people when I'm encouraging people to, I don't know, put theirselves out there with their art, their writing their music or whatever in my mind, to build an audience following to basically, so you can do the next thing. But I'm wondering how often that if you see that happening for people,Taylor Lorenz:I think the smart ones do recognize it. I feel like the internet, you're just hopping from lily pad to lily pad a lot of the time, which I know that's how a lot of creative people feel. It's just like, I think internet fame in itself can be a goal. I mean, look, someone like Mr. Beast, you've done it. You crack the code. Most people are not going to reach that level. And so it makes a lot of sense. If you're really into food, you're making food content, use that to open your own restaurant or food line or whatever, but use it to go into something that you're interested in because then you still, you always have that online audience. I still have my online audience. I have people that have followed me for a decade and maybe they know me from my blog or I had a Snapchat show in 2016 or things that I've done over the years, but it's always in service of my broader career.Michael Jamin:And so Well, maybe tell me what that is. Do you have a broader goal ahead of all this? Other than getting a book, which is pretty impressive.Taylor Lorenz:I know. I never thought I would write a book. And then just, there was a lot of revisionist history once the pandemic hit in 2021 and all these venture capitalists were pouring money into the content creator world, and TikTok was taking off. People were just kind of like, they were rewriting history. And I was like, I'm going to write the definitive history. I've been around for this. And I always thought it would be interesting to write a book. I didn't know anything about the publishing industry, except I have a couple friends that did those Urban Outfitters typeMichael Jamin:Books. That's so funny.Taylor Lorenz:See,Michael Jamin:Oh, go ahead. I don't cut you off. So your broader goals. Oh, yeah.Taylor Lorenz:I love media. I love media. I want to keep working in media. I love creative sort of endeavors. I like writing. I make videos as I am very obsessed with news media, so I wantMichael Jamin:To, right. So maybe more of that. There's a couple of things in that book, in your book that kind of took me a little bit by surprise. One is there are, well, first of all, I think there are people who make content. This is just my opinion, their content's a little disposable. And so you spoke about people who, I don't know, it's like pranksters who they got to keep upping the prank until it comes to a point where this one woman you're talking about, she was sick to her stomach with the pressure of having to come up with something all the time. And to me, it felt like that's because you're making, I guess I have a rule. I have a rule. I was like, I don't want to spend more than 10 minutes a day on this. But there are people who spend on posting, but there are people who put way a lot of time and pressure on this, and it winds up destroying themselves, don't you think?Taylor Lorenz:Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, there's a whole bunch of that in my book of just the burnout. And I think, like you said, it comes from just making content for content's sake and feeling like it's an extra burden and giving it, it's also when it's your whole livelihood, the stakes become higher. That's why I say you should diversify a little bit.Michael Jamin:Yeah. There was another, the thing that really surprised me that I learned from your book, because I'm a little older, so I don't really know all this stuff, but there's a whole culture of content creators who their job is just to talk shit about other content creators.Taylor Lorenz:And I'm like,Michael Jamin:Oh my God. And I've witnessed some of this stuff, but I didn't realize it's really a thing, like a gossip. They're just gossipers, right?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. They basically have replaced tabloid news for the internet, and yeah, it's a huge drama channel industrial complex online that you're lucky if you've not encountered.Michael Jamin:Yeah. And do they go anywhere with, what do you think is the end game for them?Taylor Lorenz:Well, I mean, the woman that runs DUIs, which is more of a blind item, celebrity news page, she has a podcast. She also, she wrote a novel kind of based around the content. Others like Diet Prada have really successful newsletters. A lot of the other commentators like Keemstar and stuff, their goal is just to basically run these media empires of gossip, kind of like a TMZ for the internet.Michael Jamin:And then how are they further monetizing though?Taylor Lorenz:They monetize through partnerships and brand deals and a lot through YouTube ads. They get a lot of views. A lot of them get a lot of views on YouTube.Michael Jamin:See, I just turned, maybe I'm crazy, but I turned down a brand deal today because I thought, I don't know, it doesn't align with anything that I stand for. And I was like, am I crazy for turning this down? Or I don't know. But have you get approached by things that, are you turning stuff down?Taylor Lorenz:Well, yeah, I have to turn down so much stuff. I'll never forget a tech company, which I will not name, offered me $60,000 to do three video, three audio chat rooms for them.Michael Jamin:What is an audio chat room?Taylor Lorenz:Like? A live chat type thing? It was going to be like three hours of work. And obviously I couldn't do it because I can't take on sponsored content. I'm a journalist. You can't do that, especially not with a tech company. But I have to say that one really made me question my career choices. Normally people are like, can you promote X, Y, Z? And I explained that I don't do.Michael Jamin:So there's nothing that you can promote a journalist. There's nothing.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, I could theoretically probably promote companies that I don't cover, but I don't really want to, I don't need to make $500 promoting a mop.Michael Jamin:Right, right. Yeah, it's so interesting. You have to protect what you, it's so odd because I don't see a lot of people making brand when I'm scrolling through my pages for you a page on TikTok, I don't see a lot of people making brand deals, but I guess they are, right? Am I not seeing it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, the branded content doesn't always live on TikTok. A lot of times they'll create whitelisted content that the brand then promotes in a TikTok ad.Michael Jamin:Wait, when you say white, okay, explain this to me. So whitelisted means the creator. Go ahead.Taylor Lorenz:The creator creates branded content, but it doesn't necessarily live on their feed. They create it for the brand, and then the brand will use that video they made to the creator, like, wow, I love my air stick selfie thing. They'll run ads. So it's using that creator's likeness in the ad. It's the video that they made, but you're not going to see it on their page. You're going to see it in the,Michael Jamin:But do they not put it on their page or you're not going to see it? No one's going to watch it.Taylor Lorenz:Sometimes they do put it on their page, sometimes they don't. I mean, all of these are negotiated in the terms of the ad deals, which are structured increasingly in complicated ways. But I mean, there's a lot of spun con on TikTok. Also, sometimes there's product placement on TikTok. You'll see people doing videos with certain products. Sometimes the products have paid to be in their,Michael Jamin:And they have to mention this, right? They have to, I wasn't aware of this, but theoretically, yes, theoretically. But you're saying they don't always mention it. They don't always say, this isTaylor Lorenz:The sponsor. So the FTC says Yes, and I write about that decision in 2017 when they had to do that. The thing is that a lot of times they can get away with not saying it because it's not directly sponsored. For instance, you could have a long-term, year long partnership with the brand. They could be giving you tons of free product, but they didn't directly pay you for that post. So you feel like, oh, I don't have to disclose it,Michael Jamin:But they paid you for something. I mean, that doesn't make sense. They paid you. It's totally great. Okay. Yeah. ButTaylor Lorenz:People get around it by kind of fudging things.Michael Jamin:Who would get in trouble then if they got caught? The brand, not the TikTok or whatever.Taylor Lorenz:Not really. I mean, they went after Kim Kardashian. If you're that level, they'll go after you. But normally they're going after the brands. The brands are usually doing this. And also it's ultimately the brand or the agency that's running the marketing campaign that's up. It's up to them to enforce it and be like, Hey, put this in your caption.Michael Jamin:You said something else that surprised me in your book is that at one point, maybe it's still this way that the agencies are making the money and many of the creators are not getting that money. Explain to me what happens. I read it twice. It's like, wait, I'm missing something. SoTaylor Lorenz:There's been this explosion in sort of middlemen agencies, management companies that have come in. And what they do is they find these up and coming creators, they sign them into contracts like, Hey, I'll handle all your spun con, or I'll come in and do this deal. And then they take a huge portion, the brand pays maybe a hundred thousand dollars for a campaign. The agency will come in and take 50% of that or something, and then the rest goes to the creators. They allocate it, soMichael Jamin:They're getting something. You couldTaylor Lorenz:Argue that they are providing a service, and that's true, but the less ethical agencies are less upfront about the amount that they're taking.Michael Jamin:Interesting. Oh, they don't tell you how much it is? Probably,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. They won't tell you what the brand originally paid. They'll just say, oh, it's $10,000 for this campaign. Nevermind that we got a hundred thousand dollars from the actualMichael Jamin:Brand. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's so much to be careful. There really is. And so I asked you a little bit earlier if you knew of many. Okay, so I'll let give you an example from my experience. So I did a show, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago, maybe not maybe 10. And the studio, we had a cast a role, and the studio wanted to get an influencer to play the part because this influencer had a bigger audience than the network had. And he turned it down several times because the money, he was going to paid a lot of money, but the money wasn't worth it to him. He was making more on a daily, which I was shocked about. And so do you know more? Can you speak more to that?Taylor Lorenz:That happens all the time. Yeah.Michael Jamin:Really?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah.Michael Jamin:I thought this guy was crazy, but okay, go on.Taylor Lorenz:Well, I mean, for a lot of content creators, their goal, it depends on the content creators. Some content creators, their goal is to get into Hollywood, and that would be an amazing opportunity for them. But especially the ones at the upper echelon, they're already the a-list of the internet. They're making millions of dollars. They really don't need to engage. And maybe it's a fun thing if they want to do it, and they have time and it's like a novelty type thing, or it adds some sort of legitimacy to them. But a lot of times, if they're spending, for instance, hours on a set, that's money out of their pocket that they could be making a lot. So it kind of doesn't make sense. And people have struggled. Not every content creator succeeds as well. So I think some of them do have that feeling of like, look, I'm really good at this. I know I'm really good at this. I'm making money. Do I want to gamble? Take time away from that. Try my hand at this thing that maybe I have and succeeded at before. It's not always there.Michael Jamin:Maybe I shouldn't even ask this on as we're being recorded. Do you know this guy, nurse Blake? Have you heard of him?Taylor Lorenz:I don't think so. Wait,Michael Jamin:Okay. Because I can't tell if he's a comedian or a nurse, but whatever he is, he's selling out arenas.Taylor Lorenz:Oh, I know this guy. I've seen him before. Yes. He's a comedian, right?Michael Jamin:Well, he doesn't act, but I also see him also posting in the hospital. It seems like he could be selling out arenas, but also he likes doing the rounds or something. I don't know. Yeah.Taylor Lorenz:So it's so funny. I don't know when you joined TikTok, but the earliest content creators on TikTok back in 2018, when it flipped from musically to TikTok, the earliest groups of content creators that emerged were police officers, nurses and service workers. And they were all gaining huge audiences. And I think it's because those jobs have an enormous amount of downtime, and they kind of almost have interesting stages themselves. They're always in the hospital or at Walmart working or whatever. And so there's a lot of people like that on social media that have kind of pivoted their career in that way to,Michael Jamin:Okay. I've been on a TikTok for maybe two and a half years, and at first I was very self-conscious. I was like, isn't this the app where teenage girls shuffle dance? Am I going to be the creepy guy on this app? And you're saying, it's so hard to tell. I mean, the first time, my first week and a half of posts were like this, this is cringey.Taylor Lorenz:They always say, you know what? My favorite quote is that I think all the time Xavier from Party Shirt said this, that everything is cringe until it gets views. And I think that'sMichael Jamin:True. Until it getsTaylor Lorenz:It's popular. It's not cringe anymore,Michael Jamin:I guess. So when you first started posting, did you look to anyone for, I don't know, to emulate?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. I mean, there's this woman, Katie nais, who's still hilarious internet person, and she's a blogger too. She ended up working at Buzzfeed for a decade. I always just wanted to be like her. She was so creative and funny. She had this website called, I think it was called Party something. She would aggregate really funny party photos, and she just was really good at finding funny things on the internet.Michael Jamin:And do you know, have you reached out to her?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, now I'm friends with her because I've been obsessed with her for my whole career. So sheMichael Jamin:Very really, so now you have a friendship with her. That's nice. Do you get recognized a lot when you're out and about?Taylor Lorenz:Not in la. No one gives a shit about me in la.Michael Jamin:But when you're out somewhere else, if I'm notTaylor Lorenz:VidCon or something, yeah, usually. I mean, I got recognized in DC on my book tour when I was eating. That was cool. But yeah, sometimes, I mean, when I was doing my Snapchat show, I got recognized a lot more, I think, because a lot of kids were seeing me on the Snapchat Discover Channel thing.Michael Jamin:I was on your link tree, you're everywhere, but are you active on every, I'm like, damn. She's on every platform.Taylor Lorenz:I'm an equal opportunity poster. Well, I mean, I cover this world, so I kind of feel obligated to be on everything. I definitely think Instagram and TikTok are my main ones. And then I have threads also now,Michael Jamin:Which I, are you making different content you posting? Are you reposting or posting brand new stuff? Everywhere.Taylor Lorenz:I repost. If I make a short video for TikTok, I repost it on reels and YouTube shorts. YouTube's always the one that I like. I'm so lazy about, honestly,Michael Jamin:It's hard to grow on YouTube. It's soTaylor Lorenz:Hard to grow, and I don't know, it's just like there's something demoralizing about YouTube.Michael Jamin:Interesting.Taylor Lorenz:But yeah, I think it's because it's like, you know how it is, it's like you post something, you get a hundred thousand views on TikTok, it's doing really well on Instagram. And then you go on YouTube and it's like me, 2000 views, and you're like, oh, I'm aMichael Jamin:Failure. What's the point of that? And you were blocked. Are you still blocked from Twitter or whatever? Twitter is?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Elon banned me for a while. I did get back on. I don't really, Twitter is dead to me, honestly.Michael Jamin:What did you do to get banned?Taylor Lorenz:I was, well, he banned me under this rule that he made that said you couldn't promote your links to other social media profiles. And I was promoting my Instagram account, so that's what he technically banned me under. But what he really banned me for is that I reached out to him for comment. I wrote a story about how he completely lied about a bunch of stuff, and I reached out to him for comment. And the minute I reached out to him for comment, I got banned. And then he tried to say, oh, it was actually because she was promoting her Instagram. No,Michael Jamin:That was Oh, interesting. So do you think he was guy, do you, you made it he enemy. He responds. He knows who you are and hates you.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Oh, he definitely, yes. I mean, I've interacted with him somewhat frequent basis, but that week I was not the only journalist that was banned for reporting on him. So the same week, drew Harwell, my colleague was banned, and then a bunch of people from the New York Times, we all got banned within a week, soMichael Jamin:Wow. BackTaylor Lorenz:On.Michael Jamin:And then they let you back on. Interesting. And then you're, screw this.Taylor Lorenz:But yeah, Twitter is also just very toxic and political, and I think culture is happening more on TikTok.Michael Jamin:Don't you think they're all toxic?Taylor Lorenz:Oh, totally. But I think Twitter's uniquely toxic. TikTok is toxic in a different way.Michael Jamin:Okay. I want to know what you think the differences are in each platform, because I have opinions, but Okay. Yeah. What are your differences? I mean,Taylor Lorenz:Twitter is just very political, and it's political in a way that there's a lot of, especially as a member of the media, it's like there's a lot of journalists on there. I think it's a giant group chat for a lot of media people. It's stressful. Editors, bosses are on there. I don't really use it. I use it to keep up with, I'm super immunocompromised, and so I keep up with Covid News on there. It's really the only thing I use it for. It's really hard to get news and information because Elon has sort of made so many changes to make it hard to get news on there. So I don't mess with Twitter. TikTok I love. But yeah, I mean, TikTok is just mob mentality. So I mean, I'll never forget. I defended, do you remember West Elm Caleb?Michael Jamin:No. And it's so funny when you say these names. I'm like, these ridiculous names. I'm like, no, I don't know that comic book character.Taylor Lorenz:Okay, well, west Elm Caleb a year and a half ago was getting canceled on TikTok. He was a guy that ghosted a bunch of people. He ghosted a bunch of women, and a bunch of women went on TikTok, like, this guy's a ghoster. And it got so crazy that he got fully doxxed and fired from his job. And anyway, I defended him and I was like, Hey guys, can we calm down a little bit? We haven't even heard this guy's side of the story. I believe he shouldn't be an asshole to women, but I've been doxxed. It sucks. Don't do that. And TikTok, they came for me hard on that one. They were like, no,Michael Jamin:No,Taylor Lorenz:Somebody from West Tom, Caleb.Michael Jamin:And then, yeah. How worried are you about, I worry about that. How worried about you getting haters and stuff?Taylor Lorenz:I've gotten haters. I write about YouTubers for a living. So if I was worried about haters, it doesn't matter. My friend is a pop music writer, and he was saying, he told me a couple years ago, because if anytime you are covering something with a fandom, you're going to deal with haters. And they're vicious, but a lot of them are 11 years old, or they're just online and they're mad andMichael Jamin:Okay. Do you respond to your posts comments on your post? You do.Taylor Lorenz:I do. I try to mean, don't try not to respond to haters. Sometimes I'm weak and I do respond to the haters, but noMichael Jamin:Good comes of it. Right? When you do, no,Taylor Lorenz:No good comes of it. But sometimes you just, I don't know. You just got to, butMichael Jamin:Even if you respond with kindness, which I did today to somebody, he just doubled down on his stupidity. They don't care. Why am I trying to,Taylor Lorenz:They don't care at all. They're like, fuck you.Michael Jamin:Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. No, it doesn't help. I mean, sometimes if I'm bored, I've replied something, but I mostly just ignore those people, or I limit my comments and I try to keep it to that only my community's engaging and not a bunch of randos. Or if they have a good faith question, I get a lot of story ideas from people commenting. Or sometimes smart people will comment, you click on their profile, you're like, oh, cool. Person's interesting. Right.Michael Jamin:Okay. Okay. So you sound emotionally mature about this whole thing? Maybe more than I am because I get upset sometimes.Taylor Lorenz:No, trust me, I've had my moments. It's hard. But I think I've just been through it so long. I've been through the cycle so many times that I'm immune.Michael Jamin:And do you talk to your colleagues who, I guess, are they as active as you are on, let say on TikTok? No. Other reporters?Taylor Lorenz:Journalists are not. It's weird with journalists on TikTok. They're not really, journalists are so addicted to Twitter. Twitter is where everyone in the media is. And there's some journalists on TikTok, but not that many. So the ones that are, I think we all try to support each other,Michael Jamin:Or it's just not competitive. Yeah, it's supportive. You think?Taylor Lorenz:I try to be supportive. I don't, like somebody said this really early on of Don't compete collab or something. It was like early thing. And I really like that. I felt that with blogging too. I had made friends with a lot of bloggers. We were all in the same group. And it's just like the internet is really vast and everyone is unique. AndMichael Jamin:There's not tooTaylor Lorenz:Many internet culture reporters either. So,Michael Jamin:Well, that's a question I can't tell how big TikTok is. Sometimes I'll see, oh my God, this creator knows that creator, and they talk whether they stick to each other. I'm like, wow, this is a small place. But then I'm wondering, well, maybe I'm only seeing this wedge of the pie, and it's actually much larger. I can't get a sense of how big this thing is.Taylor Lorenz:It is really big. I mean, it's like billions of users, so it's really big. But I do think that inMichael Jamin:Terms of the creators though, theTaylor Lorenz:Creator community is smaller than you think. And I think the people that are really active, they form a network. And you're always going to get people that are a couple degrees away from people that you follow usually.Michael Jamin:Yeah. Where do you think, I'm certainly not the first person to say this, but during the early days of Instagram, it was always about people. This is the glamorous life. It was all made up. It was like they got sponsored posts to be on a yacht or whatever. They're pretending to be rich and famous or whatever. And because we're all idiots, we're like, wow, they're rich and famous, and they're living that life. And then that somehow evolved to now influences turn to creators, and creators are more authentic. This is my life. Take it or leave it. What do you think there's next? What comes next after that? Do you have any idea? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:I mean, I think we always flip back and forth between aspirational versus authenticity. And people want a little bit of both. People still want the aspirational content. It's just not everything. And I do think that the authenticity is part of the appeal, and I don't think it's going away anytime soon. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, different content formats perform well depending on what the platform is promoting. So right now, they really want long form video. So I think we're going to see people that succeed in long form grow faster.Michael Jamin:But do you think when you're posting, maybe you don't even want to answer this on the air. I wouldn't blame you. Are you thinking about, oh, this post will do Well, I should talk about this. I know it'll do well. Or is it like, this is what I'm talking about, take it or leave it?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. It depends on the day. Some days so many times where I'm like, oh, I know this would do well, but I just don't feel like posting today.Michael Jamin:Oh, really? EspeciallyTaylor Lorenz:Lately, oh my God. There's been so many things where I'm like, oh, that's going to go viral. And then I see somebody else posted and I'm like, good. They got the traffic. You have to be early on something. And then sometimes just most stuff I just post because I think it's interesting, and it's just my taste and news and information and just something I found interesting. But howMichael Jamin:Long will you spend on a post? Do you do it again and again until you get it right? No. One take and you're done?Taylor Lorenz:Usually, maybe I'll do two or three if I might rerecord something, but I don't take it that seriously. It's just one of many things I'm doing during the day, so not, and especially since I've been on book tour, I've just been too busy to make. I go through periods and it depends on how busy I am, how many videos I'm making.Michael Jamin:And how much of your personal life, because I know you're talking about technology and you're interviewing people and you're covering events like a journalist, but how much of yourself do you share?Taylor Lorenz:I share my opinions. I mean, I'm very opinionated, and I think I always tell people that you can be very authentic. And I think a lot of people would find me to be very authentic person online. I'm not a shy person or something, but I don't talk about my personal information. Also, it's not that interesting, I think. Oh, butMichael Jamin:People would love to know. People would love to know. I know Date youTaylor Lorenz:Nosy. They're nosy. But I think about all the cool stuff that I did in my twenties, and I'm like, I wish I had TikTok, I think back then, and I was talking about my life more. I was doing more and going out more. And now I'm like, I have a little bit more of a chill life. So sometimes I talk about walking around the Silver Lake reservoir or something, but I'm not like, if I go to a really interesting event, maybe I'll share it. I mean, I just went to Dubai and I actually haven't posted yet, but I'm making a video about that.Michael Jamin:I can't believe you went. That flight is just too long. I would think it wasTaylor Lorenz:So long. It was so long. But I got invited to this book festival, and I thought, when else am I going to go?Michael Jamin:Okay, what is a book festival?Taylor Lorenz:So there's this really big book festival called the Sharjah International Book Festival, and it's huge. And there's thousands of authors and books, and yeah, I got invited to speak, and I thought,Michael Jamin:Oh, you're speaking. So what if you're not speaking, what happens to Is everyone, okay? If you weren't invited to speak, would you be at a booth? What is it? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:You just attend. I mean, there's thousands of people that attend and they just come from all over to, there's a lot of book buyers, and then there's a lot of publishing industry people in the Middle East and in Europe and that side of the world. And then there's just a lot of people that are interested in meeting the authors, going to panels. There's a lot of celebrity author type people there.Michael Jamin:Who's setting that up? Your publisher or who?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, the publisher. Actually, I think maybe my book agent forwarded it to me. They were forwarded it to me, look at this random thing, and I was like, no, that's so cool. I want to do it.Michael Jamin:Oh, wow, really? And so did they fly you out?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, they flew me out. They didn't pay me or anything. They just flew me out and covered my travel, which honestly was enough for me. It was pretty cool. HowMichael Jamin:Many days were you there?Taylor Lorenz:I was only there for three, four days. Four days,Michael Jamin:Including the flight, which was theTaylor Lorenz:Travel was a day on each side because the travel wasMichael Jamin:Long. And then you were there for the rest of the time, and you spoke on the panel? I was on the panel. That's an hour,Taylor Lorenz:Michael. I just did tourist stuff. I didn't have to do anything aside from that, so I was like, let me just go.Michael Jamin:Oh, okay. So it was a chance for you to be a tourist.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. My friend is an editor over there for Bloomberg, and so we hung out and just did all the cool Dubai stuff together.Michael Jamin:But I'm curious because it's interesting, since you were a journalist, are we supposed to know anything about you? I mean, are there rules? Yeah,Taylor Lorenz:It's so funny. So the old school sort of notions of journalism is like, I'm serious, and I don't talk about my life, and I never share an opinion. I think that's a very outdated and dumb model of journalism that nobody will trust. That's why we have a crisis in media, I think, of trust is because people don't know about, there's so much mistrust in the media, and I'd much rather be upfront with my beliefs and tell people, Hey, look, this is what I'm thinking about the issue. Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think I'm right? Ultimately, the goal of writing any article is to be fair and accurate.Michael Jamin:WeTaylor Lorenz:AllMichael Jamin:Have. I thought you weren't supposed to be biased. I thought you were supposed to. Why do I know? I thought you supposed to. This is theTaylor Lorenz:Fact everyone. Everyone has opinions, right? There's no such thing on earth. The point is, is that you're not allowed. You shouldn't let that kind of shape the story to the point that it alters the truth. But to act like, oh, I don't have opinions as a journalist, that's stupid. We're all human beings. We all have opinions. Baseball writers that write about sports teams, they still are fans of a specific team. That doesn't mean that it's going to shape their coverage. That's the most important thing. It's like, I might love or hate certain things on the internet, but I'm not going to let it affect some story to the point that it would be truthful. You know what I mean?Michael Jamin:This gets into something else. Whereas you're kind of maybe, I don't know if this isn't the right word, but a celebrity journalist, because you recently had a photo spread in this magazine, and they're dressing you up and couture, right? I mean, so what's that about? You're celebrity journalist.Taylor Lorenz:I know. I've been in a couple things like that. Yeah, I mean, look, journalists have always been, it's always been a public facing job. It's always been a public. I mean, Woodward and Bernstein, obviously. Bob Woodward also works at The Post. He's incredibly famous. Anderson Cooper, Barbara Walters, the original female journalist, Katie Couric. All these journalists are, well-known household names because of their journalism, but of course, they're also people. And I think with the internet now, that's all come to a smaller scale. I'm definitely not at those people's levels at all. But with the internet, I think we all follow journalists and content creators. And again, it goes back to transparency. That's what I think is a big problem with that old model of media, where it's like, don't ever speak your opinion or something on anything. Because I think actually when you don't and you try to sort of act like, oh, I don't have an opinion, that's a lie.Everyone has an opinion on everything. Or maybe, but you should just be honest about it because that helps people trust you. I can be like, look, I don't love, this is a total example. I do love Emma Chamberlain, but I could be like, I don't love Emma Chamberlain, but I had the opportunity to interview her editing style was pioneering. It transformed YouTube. I wrote about it in my book, X, Y, Z. I'm not going to let my personal feelings about her color, but I would answer questions about it. If somebody asked me, I'd be like, well, here's my thoughts.Michael Jamin:Okay, so what is your daily life then? Do you freelance all these? How does it work? What is your life?Taylor Lorenz:No, I work for the Washington Post. So I am on our morning meeting every day at 8:00 AM on Zoom.Michael Jamin:Okay. Is no one, well, that's a good question. Is everyone online now? If you work for the Washington Post, does no one go to the office?Taylor Lorenz:They have a big office in Washington, but I moved out here with the New York Times, so I was at the New York Times for several years, and New York Times does have an office in la. So they moved me out here, and then the Post recruited me, and I was like, well, I'm not leaving la. And they have a lot of people from the post in LA obviously as well. Are youMichael Jamin:From, I thought you were from la. No,Taylor Lorenz:No. I live in la, but I'm from New York originally.Michael Jamin:Oh, where are you in New York? Are you from?Taylor Lorenz:Well, I lived on the Upper East Side when I was little, and I lived all over New York. I've lived, I think 11 different neighborhoods,Michael Jamin:But all, not all in Manhattan?Taylor Lorenz:No, no, no, no. Mostly in Brooklyn. I was in Fort Green before I moved.Michael Jamin:Okay. I didn't know that. So you're a New Yorker. Okay. Yeah. And then not anymore. So are you pitching them ideas or are they telling you, this is what we want you to cover today?Taylor Lorenz:It's a mix. I would say it's probably like 80 to 90% coming up with your own ideas. The rest of it. Sometimes there's an editor assigned story. Most of the time it's breaking news. So for instance, the war breaks out. I cover TikTok. I cover the content. So they're like, well, is there an angle on it?Michael Jamin:Why is news? My God. So what is most of your day then? Is it surfing the internet, or is it making calls to experts or whatever?Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, it's a mix. I wish it was surfing the internet all day, but it's a lot of meetings, a lot of, we have editorial meetings where we discuss coverage and we all give feedback on our stories. And I have meetings with my editor to talk about stories. I write features, so I generally write longer pieces. Sometimes I'm working on investigations for months.Michael Jamin:And then how did you have, go ahead. GoTaylor Lorenz:Ahead. Oh, yeah, it's a mix of, I do a lot of interviews and I do a lot of informational interviews, and I do a lot of consuming content andMichael Jamin:Keeping Well, then where did you get the time to write this book? It sounds very busy.Taylor Lorenz:I know. And I didn't take book leave like an idiot. I was like, I'll just do it nights and weekends.Michael Jamin:People go on book leave.Taylor Lorenz:Leave, yeah. But it's unpaid, so that's how they get you. And I didn't want to do that, so I thought I'll just try to do it all on top of my job. And I did, but it took me two years.Michael Jamin:Are you working on your next book? What's that?Taylor Lorenz:No, I'm not doing another book.Michael Jamin:You're done for now, but you will at some pointTaylor Lorenz:Maybe. Sure. Like yours. I don't want to do that right now.Michael Jamin:It was really hard. Why? I know. It was a lot of work, a lot of research, andTaylor Lorenz:Just the fact-checking. I interviewed about 600 people for the book, and it was just a lot. And throughout it all, I make videos, I do. I speak at things. I go to events. I have a lot going on in between.Michael Jamin:And how are you getting these speaking engagements? You're a celebrity now?Taylor Lorenz:No. No, but I talk at industry conferences type stuff a lot. Just like VidCon or things likeMichael Jamin:That. What is VidCon? Stop talking. I know what I'm talking about. I don't even know what that is.Taylor Lorenz:Wait, Michael, you need to come to VidCon next year.Michael Jamin:I don't even know what it is.Taylor Lorenz:Oh my God. VidCon is the largest, soMichael Jamin:Ignorant.Taylor Lorenz:No, no, no. You know what? You would have no reason to know it. It's the biggest conference for, it's a convention for online content creators. It's in Anaheim every year. They also have VidCon Baltimore this year. But it's a big convention where all the big content creator type people get together and the industry sort of.Michael Jamin:So are you going as a guest or are you going as a speaker?Taylor Lorenz:I've mostly, in recent years, gone as a speaker, but I used to go as a guest.Michael Jamin:And so what do you do as a guest?Taylor Lorenz:As a guest, you get to meet your biggest, you meet the big content creators that are there, talkers meet and greets. You go to panels, you can go to events. There's parties. It's kind of like a fun thing if you're up and coming or you care about the internet. It used to be a really big thing. I mean, I talk about this a little bit in the book, but it started in 2010, and it started as this small thing of just the biggest creators on the internet getting together just because there was no event, physical event. And then it got bought by Viacom, and now it's this huge.Michael Jamin:So now they reach out to you to say, we want you to be on a panel or something.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, I'm always talking about, sometimes I do interviews with big content creators on the main stage. They need somebody to interview Charlie Delio or something. And so I'll do that. Sometimes. I'm talking about, I mean, I did one, I think it was last year or the year before, on news content creators. That's something that people always want me to talkMichael Jamin:About all. So we don't live far for each other. So we'll ride fair. If you like riding in a Jeep, you're not afraid of writing into Jeep.Taylor Lorenz:I think you might be recognized. Maybe you'll be a speaker soon. They love the entertainment people. There was some women they had there one year. They always get some weird entertainment celebrity that has a YouTube channel to come, and they're always really out of place. It's very funny.Michael Jamin:They wait, why would they be out of place if they're famous? If they're a celebrity? They'reTaylor Lorenz:Not internet people. They don't even run their own channel usually.Michael Jamin:Oh, I see. So that's a whole different thing when celebrities put themselves. That's the thing. I read somewhere, well, I guess there was pushback when a celebrity gets on YouTube, it's like, Hey, or TikTok, get off TikTok celebrity. It's like, why is everyone so mad? But I guess maybe talk a little about that. What happens when they try to do that?Taylor Lorenz:I think it's just these old school entertainment. People come on and they don't really understand the app and they clearly are not doing it themselves. They have some content assistant and then they're like, Hey kids, I guess I have to be here now. And it's like, what are you doing here? I will say, the musicians do a better job. Megan Trainor has Chris Olsson, her TikTok buddy that, and music is such a part of TikTok. I feel like they get a warmer reception. But people, I mean, when Reese Smith first joined, people were like, they were in the comments being mean toMichael Jamin:Her. Aren't you rich enough? Reese? But there is some woman I follow, and I was shocked. I'm like, there's so many ways that people are making on this. And she talks about politics, so she's like a punt. That's her passion. So I'm like, okay, let's get her take on it. But she also does these, they're called TRO trips. Have you heard of this TRO Trotro trip? And so basically it's this website. So she'll run a trip in Europe, we're going to Italy for a week, come onto this and you can pay her basically to be your tour guide.Taylor Lorenz:Oh, this, I see. It's like a host. They're hosting you for the tour. Interesting. Oh my gosh,Michael Jamin:Yes. I'm like, how smart. So she basically gets a free trip, but she has to be with people for a week. She's the host. Well,Taylor Lorenz:They were doing that with our New York Times when I was at the New York Times. I think they stopped doing it because one of the reporters was being controversial on the trip, and I think they kind of scaled back the program, but I think they were like, actually, we don't want our reporters talking to the public. But they used to have people travel with New York Times reporters, and that was a way that the New York Times made money off journalists.Michael Jamin:Oh, wow. And for the same kind of thing where let's go tour the Vatican or something.Taylor Lorenz:It would be like tour the Vatican with the TimesMichael Jamin:Reallys recording or whatever. It's so weird. But there's just so many ways for people to, I don't know, make a name for themselves. I was good for her.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, totally. I mean, there's just endless ways to monetize online.Michael Jamin:I haven't discovered any of them yet, but I'm waiting for it. I got my eyes peeled, but okay, so yeah, so you go to this VidCon thing, you do a panel, and then people want your opinion. And I imagine it's people a lot smaller than you who aspire to be you.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah. Or it's just people in different industries that are there to learn more about the industry or It's a lot of brand people too. The head of marketing for Walmart or something.Michael Jamin:Oh, really?Taylor Lorenz:Want to understand the ecosystem.Michael Jamin:Oh, so they're not talking, I don't know, conferences. I don't know what this is about. It depends.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, sometimes those people, if they're really good, I mean, I actually know the woman who runs the Walmart, influencer marketing was also at this event I was at recently. So that's a bad example. But a lot of times it's like marketers, maybe they're not totally in it yet, or they're a brand that wants to understand the content creator world, but they don't. Maybe they're not doing that yet, or they want to do more of it. So they go to these events to build connections. AndMichael Jamin:So you're saying, I should go to this thing.Taylor Lorenz:I think you should go to VidCon. It's interesting. It's fun to just go to once. And there's a lot of fans there too. So there's the industry side, then there's the fan side, and then there's just all these sort of adjacent events.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my content, and I know you do because listening to me, I will email it to you for free. Just join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos of the week. These are for writers, actors, creative types, people. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you, and the price is free. You got no excuse to join. Go to michaeljamin.com. And now back to what the hell is Michael Jamin talking about?Alright, so what about other people who have, I guess, transition from, I guess I'm saying, what I'm thinking is how can we help my listeners into, I don't know, everyone turns to me for like, Hey, what should I put on? It's like, I don't know, just build a following. Do you have advice for them?Taylor Lorenz:Everyone asked me the same thing, and I'm like, I wish it was easy. If I could give you a three step thing, we would all have millions of followers. I mean, a huge part is consistency, which is very hard. And I have to say, you post forever. You can't get obsessed with the views because people just quit and they feel like, oh, if you have an audience of 500 people, that really matters. It is very much about creating more of a community of people, and it is scale. So I think it's just, that's so valuable, and it also matters who's following you, rather than just getting random views. You want influential or interesting or whatever type of market you're trying to go for. You want the right people to follow you.Michael Jamin:Well, this is something that I was always perplexed at the beginning of TikTok, so I guess both of them, but on TikTok, you have followers that are, I get all these followers. I'm like, but if I have all these followers and only a 10th of them are seeing an average post or less, what's the point? Why? Why do I keep track of this metric? Why do they have the metric of followers if they don't show it to your followers?Taylor Lorenz:The way that I explain TikTok is following is just one signal to the algorithm. It's one signal out of probably thousands. And so it's useful. It's like, I have an affinity to this person. Obviously, you follow people too. Then you're mutuals, and then you can DMM with each other more, or comment. Sometimes you can put videos to Mutuals only. So there is a value, I think, in following, but most of people's experience is of consuming content on TikTok is obviously through the for you page. So I wouldn't even, followers doesn't matter that much, right?Michael Jamin:It doesn't.Taylor Lorenz:And also it's like, again, it goes back to who is following you. There's so many creators that people always wonder this with press, because people are like, why? How do I get written about? And it's really not about how big you are. It's like, do you have something new and interesting, or have you cultivated some sort of unique audience that maybe hasn't been served before? Things like that. So you don't have to be the biggest,Michael Jamin:Well, I say this, there's this one guy, I'm trying to remember his name, but he has a show, he's sold a show somewhere. I should know his name, but it was a Twitter feed, and he was just writing, he had a thriller. So every day he posts a little different line from this thriller he was writing. Oh, cool. And then it just blew up because it's mystery and suspense, and people wanted to find out what was in the basement or whatever. Then he was able to, I was like, oh, that's a good idea. So he did it. And so I don't know. Are you following any other people who do anything like that?Taylor Lorenz:Twitter. Twitter. There was this period on Twitter where there were a lot of TV writers and comedians were trying things out there, and you could really get traction, and people were looking at Twitter. Now, no one's looking at that anymore. I would say it's much more TikTok and Instagram for comedy, and that's just where it is. But I mean, things people make, I mean, I was interested, this guy, Ari Kagan, who is kind of like a young director, content creator. He doesn't like to be called a content creator, but he just sold a show with Adam McKay, where they're making it for TikTok.Michael Jamin:They're making it for TikTok. Wait a minute, what does that mean?Taylor Lorenz:They're going to make it on TikTok. It's going to live on TikTok, I guess,Michael Jamin:But not as, what we do is some kind of different TikTok channel or something where it's long form.Taylor Lorenz:Yeah, yeah, it's, hold on, let me find it. I want to actually get it right. Oh, yeah. Here. It's a series that they're making on TikTok. Hold on. It happened when I was, okay. I just put it in the chat. Okay. Yeah, I think it's scripted. Yeah, it's a scripted series to run on TikTok.Michael Jamin:So you may or may not. That means you may or may not see it like we were just talkingTaylor Lorenz:About. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I guess they're hoping that it'll perform well. I'm sure they're going to put paid media behind it, butMichael Jamin:Oh, okay. Oh, okay. How interesting. Yeah, this whole thing is so you got to be honest, people are always saying, how do I break into Hollywood? And I'm thinking, well, you don't need to. You can do this on your own.Taylor Lorenz:I mean, Ari did a lot on his own initially. I think that's how a lot of people get in there, is they sort of start making their own little projects. I mean, one person that I think has done this really well, he is an actor. His name is Brian Jordan Alvarez. Do you know him?Michael Jamin:No.Taylor Lorenz:Oh my God.Michael Jamin:So I got to know who.Taylor Lorenz:Alright,Michael Jamin:Put him in the chat.Taylor Lorenz:I'm going to put him in the chat. He was an actor on Will and Grace and he was in Megan, and he is very funny. I'll put, oh, he has a Wikipedia now. He's big time. He's an actor, but it makes this really amazing content. And he started making music online and these series online and I think it's like helped him a lot. I mean, everyone knows who he is now. He's been in Time Magazine and stuff, and it's mostly from his, he made this YouTube series a while ago that was popular, and then his tiktoks took off and he started making music. But it's like,Michael Jamin:All right, I got to follow this guy. You're sayingTaylor Lorenz:He's very funny, but it's just raised his profile a lot. I think what he does on the internet, and he does it in a really fun way. And I listened to him on a podcast recently, and he was just saying how it's led to more people kind of knowing his work, and obviously people see his work and then they want to work with you.Michael Jamin:Right. Do you have a podcast yet?Taylor Lorenz:Careful.Michael Jamin:Maybe I might tune.Taylor Lorenz:We'll see, I had one and then the New York Times made me quit it. The Times is crazy about outside projects, so I quitMichael Jamin:It. Oh, really? Hope that the post is not as, maybe they don't.Taylor Lorenz:They're better. That's why I work there now.Michael Jamin:Wow. You got your hand in so many different things. Yeah. I don't know. I just thought you're absolutely fascinated because you are an expert, but you're also in it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Is it overwhelming for you?Taylor Lorenz:I think I have good boundaries because I mean, I'm grateful to be a millennial where I think it's harder for the 22 year olds today where everything, their whole social life is so enmeshed in the internet. I think I have a healthy distance from it, and I have friends that are just my friends that aren't internet.Michael Jamin:So your boundaries are basically how much time you're willing to invest every day on being online. And also justTaylor Lorenz:Like I have a very strong sense of self, and I think when you get on the internet, everybody tries to push you into doing things or making content or being like, oh, you should do this, or, oh, you should do this. And I have always had a mind of, actually, I know what I want and I'm going to do this, and I'm just going to do only what I want. I know who I am if people, because it's hard on the internet and sometimes things perform well. So if I had continued to talk about my life, I think that probably would've performed well back when I was blogging, but I made the decision to just stop doingMichael Jamin:That. But you're right, if something's controversial, I try to steer away from controversy. I feel like I'm just here to talk about art and entertainment and writing and Hollywood, but I also know if I took a bigger stand on things and pissed people off, it would go viral. But then what's the point of this? I don't know.Taylor Lorenz:Then you get all these haters. I've written a lot of political stories that have to do with the content creator world and the political ecosystem, and so those are some of my most viral stories. But I have to say, it just gets you a lot of people that then follow you. They feel like, oh yeah, she's on our side on this, or whatever, or, oh, I hate her. She wrote about this content creator that. So I think it's just better to just be true to yourself. Yeah,Michael Jamin:Though I did a post couple, maybe when I first started off and it went, somehow Yahoo picked up on it and I was on Yahoo Entertainment News. My first reaction was, oh no. You know what I'm saying? Oh no. People know about me. It felt wrong. I don't know. I was like, I don't want people knowing about me.Taylor Lorenz:I know. It feels really, I mean, I've struggled with that a lot, and I actually really like being in LA for this reason. I was thinking just the past few years, more and more people start to know who you are and start writing about you, and that is such a mind fuck. I used to really believe, oh, every journalist is so great and they only have the best interests at heart of, and that is just not true. Unfortunately, there's a lot of places that just aggregate things for clicks and whatever, or they're very partisan in certain ways, and yeah, it's very hard. I used to run around trying to correct people. I tried to correct my own Wikipedia page, and then now I'm like, I gave up on all of that. I don't care.Michael Jamin:See, that's something I still frightens me a little bit is when people will stitch me or they'll make me the face of whatever argument they want. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Keep me out of it. I never said any of this. I didn't sign up for that. This is your thing. I know that frightens me a little bit,Taylor Lorenz:I think, because everybody uses each other as characters online, and so it's like you're the main character. Then you just use all these other people around you as supporting characters and whatever you're trying to do on the internet,Michael Jamin:I thinkTaylor Lorenz:Really, butMichael Jamin:Well, that's what scared me about what you wrote in your book, but those people who just, they're whatever, they gossip about other tiktoks like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This just feels so wrong to me. Just do your own thing.Taylor Lorenz:I know.Michael Jamin:Don't try to cancel me. What are you doing?Taylor Lorenz:I know my first job in media was at the Daily Mail, and it was such a great training ground for media because tabloid news is just so relentless, and
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