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Johnny Mac delves into Shane Gillis' experience at the Masters, the comedic dynamics between John Mulaney and David Letterman on Mulaney's talk show, and Jimmy Kimmel's thoughts on the late-night TV landscape. He critiques the chaotic nature of Mulaney's production and the awkward placement of guests, suggesting a simpler format. Highlights also include Jimmy Fallon's new show ‘On Brand' and Katt Williams getting a street named after him. Additionally, there's coverage of the Melbourne Comedy Festival, ian nsightful quotes from an Icelandic comedian Ari Ljn. 00:11 Shane Gillis at the Masters01:06 Personal NASCAR Experience01:59 John Mulaney's Talk Show Critique05:36 Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Journey07:33 Jimmy Fallon's New Show09:36 Katt Williams Gets a Street10:44 Melbourne Comedy Festival Highlights11:40 Interview with Icelandic Comedian Ari LjnUnlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNITERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com John's free substack about the media: Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews Unlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app. For Spotify or other players, visitcaloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! It's also parody made with the help of AI, so its a computer you're gettng upset at. Subscribe now for exclusive shows like 'Palace Intrigue,' and get bonus content from Deep Crown (our exclusive Palace Insider!) Or get 'Daily Comedy News,' and '5 Good News Stories' with no commercials! Plans start at $4.99 per month, or save 20% with a yearly plan at $49.99. Join today and help support the show! We now have Merch! FREE SHIPPING! Check out all the products like T-shirts, mugs, bags, jackets and more with logos and slogans from your favorite shows! Did we mention there's free shipping? Get 10% off with code NewMerch10 Go to Caloroga.com Get more info from Caloroga Shark Media and if you have any comments, suggestions, or just want to get in touch our email is info@caloroga.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.
Dani & Brett are back for another episode, first diving into the latest on Survivor. Chrissy was sent to the jury this week. After an entire season of mostly lying low, Chrissy spent the last two tribal councils being a malcontent and actively combatant against a majority of the remaining castaways. Curious gameplay! No wonder they sent her packing!Later in the show, Danielle shares her confusion with Netflix's Everybody's Live, the weekly chat show starring John Mulaney and a rotating cadre of weird guests and bad bits.Brett then dives into the newest Apple TV+ series, Your Friends and Neighbors. The return of Jon Hamm to the small screen has come with a lot of press and early praise, but Brett thinks the show is more dud than stud.Finally, Brett saw 'Sinners' and it gets two strong thumbs up.Follow Hey Julie on Bluesky and submit your questions @HeyJulieBB.bsky.social, our Discord server, or email us heyjuliebigbrother@gmail.com!Watch Hey Julie on YouTubeFollow Brett @BrettRader.bsky.socialFollow Danielle @DingDongDani.bsky.social
Comedy Catch-Up: Conan's Award, Mulaney's Buzz, and Tracy Morgan's MSG IncidentJohnny Mack returns from Dublin to catch up on the latest comedy news. Tonight, Conan O'Brien receives the Mark Twain Prize for comedy amidst speculation about potential political commentary. Johnny discusses his thoughts on recent comedy specials and the need for new voices in the field. He also touches on John Mulaney's show and its mixed reviews, Tracy Morgan's food poisoning incident at an NBA game, and Bill Burr's unexpected appearance on 'The View.' The episode wraps up with updates on Bert Kreischer's fitness journey, Brett Goldstein's upcoming HBO special, and a controversial arrest of a Russian comedian.00:00 Introduction and Catching Up00:40 Comedy Specials and New Voices01:49 Conan O'Brien's Mark Twain Prize04:08 Conan's Oscar and South by Southwest Stories06:07 John Mulaney's Show and Netflix Concerns08:17 Tracy Morgan's Knicks Game Incident09:29 Bill Burr's Media Appearances10:59 Bert Kreischer's Fitness and Comedy13:30 Brett Goldstein's HBO Special13:59 Russian Comedian's Arrest14:39 Conclusion and Upcoming EpisodesBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.
Johnny Mac discusses John Mulaney's recent interviews and reflections on his career. Mulaney shares his personal rules for life, valuable advice he's received, and his thoughts on fame and success. The episode also covers Tom Papa's feelings on Bruce Springsteen and New Jersey, Kevin Hart's fashion evolution, and Sam Morrell's views on traveling by bus. Additional highlights include upcoming events like the BAFTA Games Awards hosted by Phil Wang, and C2E2's comedy track featuring Patton Oswalt. 00:14 John Mulaney's Media Appearances and Insights00:51 John Mulaney's Life Lessons and Career Advice03:50 Bill Burr's Public Persona and Podcasting06:02 Comedy Events and Interviews Unlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNITERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com John's free substack about the media: Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews Unlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNITERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com John's free substack about the media: Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.
In this episode of Daily Comedy News, Johnny Mac discusses the latest comedy specials from John Mulaney and Bill Burr. Mac shares his mixed feelings on Mulaney's new Netflix show, noting the awkwardness among panelists and uneven reviews, while also giving a detailed review of Bill Burr's special 'Drop Dead Years,' discussing Burr's views on billionaires, his approach to comedy, and his recent interviews. Additionally, the episode covers other comedy news, including Nikki Glaser returning as the host of the Golden Globes, a new Marc Maron documentary, and updates on the Community movie and Daniel Sloss's security concerns. 00:00 Introduction and Today's Headlines00:15 John Mulaney's New Special: A Rough Start02:52 Bill Burr's Latest Special: What to Expect03:11 Bill Burr's Interview Insights03:56 Bill Burr's Real Estate and Lifestyle06:04 Bill Burr's Comedy Philosophy11:19 Nikki Glaser and Marc Maron's Latest Projects12:23 Gossip Corner: Kreischer and Tom Segura get burgers13:00 Joel McHale on Community and Daniel Sloss on Russell Brand Unlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNITERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com John's free substack about the media: Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynewsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.
On today's episode of Daily Comedy News, host Johnny Mac discusses several major comedy updates. Netflix has announced a partnership with Tony Hinchcliffe, with new 'Kill Tony' comedy specials and a stand-up special slated for release. John Mulaney appears on CBS Good Morning and reflects on his influences, early career, and decision to perform in suits. Mulaney also opens up about his sobriety and the joy of performing live. Additionally, Josh Johnson combats ticket resellers by refunding tickets and making them available at original prices, while Taylor Tomlinson reacts humorously to young fans in her audience. Chelsea Handler dismisses the idea of dating Elon Musk, and Leslie Jones enjoys AEW Wrestling. Lastly, 'Deli Boys' receives creative marketing promotion ahead of its Hulu release. 00:17 Tony Hinchcliffe's Netflix Deal01:44 John Mulaney's Live Show and Press Tour07:37 Josh Johnson's Ticket Resale Solution08:55 Taylor Tomlinson's Young Audience09:58 Chelsea Handler on Elon Musk10:46 Leslie Jones at AEW Wrestling11:14 Mo Amer and Paul Wall Surprise Performance11:27 Deli Boys on Hulu Unlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNITERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com John's free substack about the media: Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynewsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.
Turns out this year is gonna have a March as usual, so Down to Watch is sneaking a peek at the upcoming TV treats! Early in the month, Dan's gotta catch the Oscars and Raul's happy to see the Daredevil series get Born Again. Later, there's comedy in crime family bodegas and Seth Rogen's studio dealings. On the serious side, real cops deal with missing and invisible victims on the streets while fake cops shake down drug dealers despite the bad vibes those kind of hijinks might attract. There's a look back at the elimination of Bin Laden, a look forward to Mulaney taking a crack at live TV, and more! March right over and have a listen!
Johnny Mac shares his initial reactions to the 50th anniversary of Saturday Night Live, which aired last night.He highlights key sketches, performances, and moments from the episode, including Steve Martin's monologue, Eddie Murphy's standout performances, and Adam Sandler's emotional musical tribute. Johnny also touches on the nostalgic and poignant tributes, like the 'Don't Look Back in Anger' short film and Paul McCartney's closing performance. Note the regular Monday episode went out earlier today and can be found below in the feed.00:43 Opening Sketches and Monologue01:22 Steve Martin and John Mulaney's Highlights03:26 Black Jeopardy and Eddie Murphy's Return04:37 Amy Poehler, Tina Fey, and Ryan Reynolds05:58 Weekend Update and Bill Murray's Rankings07:54 Adam Sandler's Emotional Tribute09:57 Tom Hanks' Speech and Mulaney's Musical Sketch11:28 Eddie Murphy's Scared Straight Sketch12:35 Garrett Morris and John Belushi's Short Film13:35 Paul McCartney's Performance and GoodbyesUnlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNITERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com John's free substack about the media: Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynewsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.
In today's episode of Daily Comedy News, host Johnny Mac discusses John Mulaney's interview with GQ about his focus and drive in stand-up comedy. The show also highlights insights and anecdotes from several comedians including Seth Meyers on Mulaney's comedic style, Jim Jefferies on global comedy success, Anthony Jeselnik on acting and his evolving hairstyle, Preacher Lawson's tips for aspiring comedians, Sarah Silverman's views on cancel culture and growth, and Gianmarco Cerezi's memorable career moments. The episode wraps up with a humorous and challenging story about Ceresi's corporate gig. Listeners are encouraged to share the podcast and explore the ad-free version.00:00 John Mulaney's Journey01:07 Jim Jefferies on Breaking into America02:05 Anthony Jeselnik on Acting and Comedy03:36 Preacher Lawson's Comedy Tips05:08 Sarah Silverman on Cancel Culture05:35 Gianmarco Soresi's Career Highlight and Worst ShowUnlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed! You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.
SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler: Jack White and Musical Guests on SNLWelcome to this week's SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler! Host jD and co-hosts Joe and Shari dive into the world of Saturday Night Live musical guests, discussing Jack White's impressive five-time appearances and his unique contributions to SNL's musical legacy. They break down Jack's performances, his versatility, and why he should be considered for the Hall of Fame. Plus, hear their thoughts on this week's SNL episode hosted by John Mulaney, including favorite sketches and Hall of Shame moments.Episode Highlights: • Jack White's Path on SNL – From The White Stripes to his solo work, we discuss Jack White's evolution and impact on SNL, including his role as a last-minute replacement and his distinct live performances. • Musical Guests and Hall of Fame Potential – Joe and Shari debate whether musical guests should be held to the same Hall of Fame standards as other SNL contributors. • SNL Hall of Shame Picks – The team highlights sketches and moments that didn't quite hit the mark this week. • John Mulaney's Hosting Return – The best and worst sketches from the latest Mulaney-hosted episode, and why the classic recurring sketches keep fans coming back.Connect with Us • Email: snlhofwc@gmail.com • Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/snlhof • Socials: @snlhof on all platformsThanks for tuning in to SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. Don't miss next week's episode as we discuss Bobby Moynihan's potential for the Hall of Fame with special guest Sammy Kay!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Get tickets for Tom's Come Together Tour at https://tomsegura.com/tour SPONSORS: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/BEARS and get on your way to being your best self. Visit https://forthepeople.com/bears or Pound LAW - Pound 529 - from your cell. Thanks to Equip Foods for sponsoring today's video! Head to my link at https://equipfoods.com/bears and use our promo code BEARS to get 20% off your first order, or combine this offer with a subscription and get 35% off your first subscription. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at https://shopify.com/bears, all lowercase. Sponsored by Formula 1 Las Vegas It's another week of 2 Bears, 1 Cave with Burnt Crystals being joined by guest bear, Judd Apatow! Judd is the producer of every great comedy from the 2000's and he's got some insider stories behind some of those hits to share. He reveals to Bert why he likes writing about dumb guys and stoners, shares a cute story about writing to Steve Martin in his early days, and Bert gives us an update on Tom and Garth. Judd and Bert also talk about Adam Sandler's clothing style, rich guy stuff, F1, being recognized in public, Steely Dan, 80's comedies, Mulaney, Garry Shandling, and why nobody runs to see comedies in movie theaters anymore. Check it out! 2 Bears, 1 Cave Ep. 259 https://tomsegura.com/tour https://www.bertbertbert.com/tour https://store.ymhstudios.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Marvel's franchise fatigue seems like the perfect target for comedy, but can the new HBO satire The Franchise overcome the baggage of the subject matter? Is it more of a 30 Rock or a Studio 60? But first! Big ratings for our favorite new procedurals, trouble in paradise for the Golden Bachelorette, more scoops on the Abbott/Sunny crossover, and a triumphant quarter at Netflix (featuring surprise Mulaney news!). ———
MUSIC Sean "Diddy" Combs found out that his trial on sex trafficking and racketeering charges has been scheduled for May 5th, 2025. A former employee of Kanye West's has filed a lawsuit against the rapper, alleging emotional distress and retaliation. Disturbed will mark 25 years since the release of their debut album, The Sickness on a tour next year! For a first set they will play that album in its entirety, and then do a second set of greatest hits. We will see them on March 2nd at Enterprise Center. You can register for the pre-sale now at Disturbed.live through Monday morning. The pre-sale is slated for Tuesday, with remaining tickets going on sale Friday October 18th. Flavor Flav is sharing his smell-good secrets. The rapper shared with People that finding the right scent is a must. "When I was a kid, my dad used to always keep Old Spice in the cabinet in the bathroom. So that was the cologne that I used to wear when I used to go to school in the fourth grade." TV The 2024-25 NFL season marks Carrie Underwood's 12th year to perform the Sunday Night Football theme song John Mulaney will return to Netflix. After a limited edition talk show during this year's "Netflix is a Joke" festival in Los Angeles, Mulaney will get a live weekly program on the streaming service. If you are a non-Apple person but want to see shows like Severance, you are in luck. The Apple TV Plus library has been added to Prime Video. MOVING ON INTO MOVIE NEWS: It seems insane that it's taken this long, but we're finally getting a live-action "Voltron" movie . . . and it'll star former Superman Henry Cavill. AND FINALLY If you're a fan of horror movies, then you know all about the final girl. She's the woman who survives the killer, and usually kills him or her. People over at Ranker.com are voting for their favorite final girl. Here are the Top 10: 1. Laurie Strode from "Halloween", played by Jamie Lee Curtis 2. Sidney Prescott from "Scream", played by Neve Campbell 3. Ellen Ripley from "Alien", played by Sigourney Weaver 4. Grace Le Domas from "Ready or Not", played by Samara Weaving 5. Nancy Thompson from "A Nightmare on Elm Street", played by Heather Langenkamp AND THAT IS YOUR CRAP ON CELEBRITIES! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This week on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast we welcome Ashley Bower back to the show, this time to discuss the four-time host, Adam Driver.Transcript: Track 3:[0:41] All right. Thank you so much, Doug DeNance. It is a thrill to be here back in the SNL Hall of Fame on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. My name is JD and welcome. Before you come on in, though, please do me a favor. Read the mat. Wipe your feet. eat. The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair where each episode we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener, to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall. And that's how we play the game it's just that simple now one of the things we do before we play the game is we talk to our friend matt ardill and we get some trivia but before we do that i think it's important we know that we're going to be talking about adam driver today uh i gotta tell you he's one of my most favorite guests of this new era this new generation it would be mulaney and and driver for me for sure i could see them both being in the hall at some point it'll be interesting to hear what ashley bauer has to say in terms of building a case ash and we're thrilled so let's uh walk down the hall and talk to our friend mr ardill oh matt adam.Track 2:[2:10] Driver yeah yeah um One of my favorite hosts, to be honest. Six foot two, born November 19th, 1983 in Fontana, California. Did not expect him to be a Californian. I don't know why. Just doesn't have that. Yeah, just doesn't have that California energy. He attended Mishawaka High School and the University of Indianapolis before going on to graduate from Juilliard. This is a another juilliard grad uh who appears on snl uh he has been in had he has had 57 acting roles six soundtrack credits and two producer credits um as a youth he appeared in how to succeed in business without really trying uh into the woods and guys and dolls uh he's he's one of of those people who's had you know when you see an actor and they're like they just have depths that you didn't expect, Because they have lived experiences, and I feel Adam is one of those. He worked as a door-to-door vacuum salesman.Track 2:[3:19] He applied to Juilliard, was rejected, so decided, what the hell, I'll join the Marines. Where he was a Lance Corporal before being discharged due to an injury prior to deployment that made him unable to go into combat. So he decided, what the hell, I'll try Juilliard again. And this time was accepted. Does not like to watch his own performance and will decline to watch them in interviews, because he just does not like seeing himself on screen. Uh he's been nominated for oscars in lincoln a black k a kk black kk klansman i don't know how to pronounce the spike lee movie yeah it's a three k's it throws me off um and marriage story of course uh his wife is actor joanne tucker uh the uh their her grandfather is the politician henry Tucker, who is considered one of the most important politicians in Bermuda in history, who led the first government of Bermuda in 1968.Track 2:[4:29] Um watching his roles it's clear he's a bit of an intense person um because like after watching fight club he actually came away with the wrong lesson and decided to start a fight club in his high school um yeah so that was a choice uh now he did appear on broadway in mrs warren's profession and man and boy before going on to appear in Girls. Growing up, he was raised by a father and a stepfather who were both preachers, who had him sing in the church choir, which he doesn't really show off to the best of his ability inside Llewellyn Davis.Track 2:[5:13] Which is, to be honest, where I first fell in love with him as the singing cowboy. Boy uh but he's actually a very talented musician and in that episode where he played the piano on snl he actually played the piano he does know how to play the piano um now he's gone on found a charity uh called arts in the armed forces with his partner a non-profit that brings art to the active duty service members around the world and support staff free of charge uh together they have have a son uh but he actually kept it hidden for two years before the new yorker finally uh let it slip in 2019 so he is a man of uh many nuances and layers sounds that way what an onion he is yeah you know when i carve into an onion i often cry and when i listen to a thomas conversation Conversation with a guest, sometimes two, I often cry. Let's go to Thomas now.Track 2:[6:19] Grab your tissues. How's that for a segue, Matty?Track 4:[6:51] Well, hello, JD and Matt. Welcome to another edition of the SNL Hall of Fame Conversation. We are in the middle of a wonderful season six, continuing that today with a great nominee, one of my all-time favorite hosts. I'm going to be up front about how much I like today's nominee. It's Adam Driver, of course, and I'll be up front about how much I like today's guest as well. A very special guest first timer last season with kate mckinnon who i think uh will probably get in this year i mean a little soon after after her tenure at snl to get into the snl hall of fame i guess the voters decided that but i think um ultimately ashley will have gotten kate mckinnon into the hall um ashley uh joined me and daramie on a round table uh at the end of season five so So this is her third appearance to the show. So Ashley Bauer, thank you so much for joining me today on the SNL Hall of Fame, Ashley. Thank you so much for having me back. I'm kind of working my way toward my own five-timers club, hopefully. That's the goal. Slowly but surely. Yes, yes, you'll get there. You were very impressive in your first go-around, so I had to have you back this season. I've been following your exploits on Instagram, I'm not going to lie. So you're a world traveler, you're a Taylor Swift fan, so why don't you tell me, like, how's your summer going in both of those regards, Ashley? I'm kind of jealous.Track 4:[8:18] So it's a little bittersweet. So yeah, I went to Paris to see Taylor Swift at the Aris Tour in May, and it was everything I thought it would be and more. Like it was like being in Barbie land. Everybody supports each other. It's women supporting women. And it's this like happy, wholesome environment. And she's just such an incredible performer. And she was so amazing. And I was so depressed after the concert was over that I couldn't accept the fact that I would never see an AeroStore concert again. So I immediately booked another trip with a separate friend. And we were scheduled to go see her in Vienna. Just a couple of weeks ago but if anyone was watching the news they saw that the vienna shows did not happen um you know just terrorists or whatever no big deal wanted to blow up the venue so very grateful uh shout out to all of the national security agencies um in that country and whatever other countries may or may not have assisted because i'm here to talk on this podcast with you but yeah I know love traveling you're right 100% as often as I can get out of the country and go see somewhere new I'm gonna do it and if I get to combine it with Taylor Swift like.Track 4:[9:41] What better trip could I plan? So yeah, made the best of it, even though we didn't actually get to see her in concert. But got to explore. Still did some kind of musical stuff. We went on a Sound of Music tour in Salzburg. So made lemons, excuse me, made lemonades out of lemons. Yes. And now I'm just back in the U.S., I guess. Just back to the boring life. Yeah, just normal everyday real world. Not in Barbie land anymore.Track 4:[10:11] Oh, that's cool. So that's awesome. Again, I'm like admiring your travels from afar, admiring your Taylor Swift adventures from afar. So I'm glad you've had a great summer. And I'm glad you're back here with me in season six to talk some Adam Driver. And I'm going to be upfront, Ashley. I think Adam might be in my top 10 all-time hosts. He's a four-timer. I think he's already there for me. So I'm going to start the conversation with that to be full, you know, full disclosure with the listeners. I think I have him as a top 10 all time host. Is that aggressive on my part? No, not at all. And I promise he's not paying me to say this or to just agree with him. But like I 100% he needs to at least be in the five timers club. He is so natural. Like it was like he was born to be an SNL host or somehow like he needs to somehow be associated with SNL for as long as I'm capable of watching the show so yeah not aggressive at all and I know we're going to talk a lot about why, he's just so freaking good at it like it's hilarious it's intense it's everything.Track 4:[11:21] Yeah, and I was doing this exercise because I made an appearance on the Saturday Night Network's host countdown this summer. And I was just kind of doing my list and going through the hosts and everything like that. And I surprised myself and was like, I really have Adam Driver this high? I guess I do. And I guess I think he deserves it. So that's where I'm coming from. I think that's where both of us are coming from with this episode. So that's why I was so excited to do this one. So a little brief background on Adam. He did a little acting here and there. Until 2012, he started really getting breaks in 2012. He was in Lincoln, Francis Ha, the Greta Gerwig movie.Track 4:[12:02] Girls, though, was arguably his biggest break. So I first saw Adam Driver on Girls. Is that the case for you and your first exposure to Adam? Or was it like somewhere else that you first saw Adam? him no so unfortunately mine was it wasn't until he got a little bit more mainstream my first exposure to him was when he played kylo ren in star wars um and then it was kind of you know going back and realizing that he had been like making his way through and kind of breaking through over the last few years um but all that to say again i thought he nailed that role in star Star Wars, it was just so well done that playing this just villain that you kind of find yourself, rooting for in a weird way, which is terrible because obviously you're not supposed to do that. But I think just the way that he captures the whole essence and as they build his story and kind of his arc and realizing...Track 4:[13:02] You know obviously he chooses very poorly at the end but you know that there was something in there that was almost good um yeah and i'm not even really that big of a star wars fan like probably upset a lot of people with how little i know about it so very basic very mainstream for me to say like oh yeah he was so good in star wars that that's where i first got experience with him no he was so good in star wars though he played that role really well uh i think maybe i don't want to speak for J.J. Abrams or Rian Johnson, but you think you were supposed to kind of feel something for him, and especially with the backstory with Luke and all that. It's like, okay, maybe he kind of had a point as far as how angry he was, but Adam played those nuances really well, so definitely made his really mainstream mark playing Kylo Ren. On girls, he really stood out because Adam has this unique look about him. He doesn't look like the classic, and this is said with love, He doesn't look like the classic handsome Brad Pitt, George Clooney, movie star Clark Gable kind of person. Adam has a distinct look about him, and that came out in Girls. He was this kind of aloof guy who Lena Dunham's character had an on-again, off-again thing with. And you could see even then some of the comedy chops, and I shouldn't have been surprised, but I was. He played intense really well, but then some of the stuff he said was low-key really funny in Girls.Track 4:[14:28] So, there were signs there for him being a good SNL host, I should say. Yeah, I think once somebody gave him the platform and gave him the opportunity to really flex those comedy muscles, he just needed somebody to give him that chance and let him demonstrate. I'm so glad they did.Track 4:[14:45] Yeah, that's what happens sometimes with people who aren't known for comedy. And that's what I wanted to ask you, just like in a general way. What's your initial reaction when someone is tabbed to host for the first time, but isn't necessarily totally known for a comedy? Is the anticipation still there for someone like that? I think so, because I think I've learned over the years that some people just really surprise you in a really great way about it. And I know like several, several years ago, the first time Mark Wahlberg did something with comedy, I was so shocked, like so shocked that Mark Wahlberg didn't just do a comedy movie, but absolutely nailed it. It was so freaking funny.Track 4:[15:28] And so I kind of used that experience to give other people like Adam Driver a chance. Answer because i admit yeah like because all i knew about him at the time was star wars when i first saw that he was hosting i thought okay this you know he's big you know he's popular i see what they brought him in but oh my gosh just even from the beginning his first time coming out with the monologue like it was like he had been there before it was so surreal to me it made me forget that that was his first time hosting yeah there's a comfort about it that you can see as snl fans We can see some sort of comfort level or some sort of fit, I think, right off the bat. And something that I've learned, Ashley, since I've been an SNL fan for going on almost 35 years now, is that the best hosts, in my opinion, are hosts who are really good actors. So being good at sketch, to me, isn't just about having a sense of humor anymore.Track 4:[16:26] It's about being a great actor and having timing and things like that. And Adam Driver happens to be a great actor and has a sense of humor. But I think a lot of those quote-unquote dramatic actors, people who are really skilled at that, are really good SNL hosts. Because I think you need to be a good actor to be good in sketch and not just funny. Oh, I completely agree with you. And I think that's what makes Adam so successful, is because he has the training and the just mixed with the natural talent of 100 committing.Track 4:[16:58] To a role in a situation and just completely dedicating to it and i think because of that i think you see this too in so many of his sketches i keep trying to look for when he's gonna look at the cue card and i can never find it yeah like sometimes i kind of wonder if i'm like making myself believe that his eyes moved just because I'm trying to catch him. I'm like, I don't think he does. I don't think he's ever looked at a cue card. And if he has, then he's completely fooled me. And I think that commitment and dedication to memorizing his lines to completely go all in with whatever sketch they've given him has really been a huge part of why he's been so successful in his hosting gigs. Yeah, 100%. And then we saw that, as you mentioned, mention his first host hosting gig was season 41 episode 10 uh musical guest chris stapleton and his monologue like he was comfortable they played off the whole uh kylo ren star wars theme he was promoting the force awakens but i thought it was really cute just to kind of like get to know the host you had some uh bobby and taryn and leslie had a funny appearance there but the those first monologues for the for these new hosts it's like i i love when they're just up there and loose and maybe they need playing with the i think i think it helps them if they're playing with the cast a little bit even in the monologue ashley i don't know if it's something that you noticed at all.Track 4:[18:24] I actually was thinking about that for one of his later monologues, too. It's his ability to play off other cast members, the band, the camera, just working the different camera angles so naturally. I think that really shows and it helps show the audience how comfortable they are from the get-go if they're able to come out and immediately start bantering with these professional SNL comedians. And he was able to do that.Track 4:[18:52] But it really is an honor to be in Star Wars. Never, never, ever will you find a more devoted fan base. They're very intense. I know. Star Wars fans, ridiculous, right? Quick question. What happens in the next film, Adam? You know, I can't tell you that. They won't even tell me that. Oh, you can't tell me because the audience is here, right? Okay, okay. I'm going to ask you at the after party, though. No, you won't.Track 4:[19:27] I've been dealing with this all week, leslie confused him with mini driver so she asked him why he wasn't in the martian with matt damon because she thought it mini driver was in goodwill hunting with matt damon why wouldn't you be in the martian with matt damon so uh so he had to correct her but uh fun monologue uh i think this is a this This is a fun episode for me, like really fun episode for me. So, but I'm going to throw it to you. Like from this first episode, what stood out to you? Oh my gosh. Again, so, so many. Since I'd only really known him from Star Wars, I thought that undercover boss sketch was immediately one of the greatest of all time. Like it was so brilliant. The concept was genius. Shout out to the writers of that sketch. But again, like his ability.Track 4:[20:19] To, you know, bring Kylo Ren alive into this like comedic realm was so hilarious. And as a lawyer, shout out to all the lawyers who got the rights to let him do that. Because thank you. Otherwise, we wouldn't have this sketch. But yeah, he was so freaking intense in that. And it ended up being so funny. And I think in the moments where he wasn't even really trying to be funny, he was just playing Kylo Ren because of the setting that they had and the concept of what they were doing. Just made it immediately funny even when he was you know pained and trying to like talk to the camera do the interview off screen he's like i'm really looking forward to meeting everybody like it just pained him to have to say it kylo is going undercover among star killer base personnel as matt a radar technician you get so caught up in restoring the galaxy to its rightful state that you miss what's going on behind the scenes. I'm looking forward to having some real talk with some real folks. The shout out to everyone else who kept up with him in that sketch too.Track 4:[21:27] Bobby Moynihan, Taryn Killam in that as well. I think that was such a huge standout. Yeah episode i thought hilariously intense that was like a a phrase that that came to my mind was adam was hilariously intense uh in this sketch and taryn yeah taryn's saying that he's 90 sure that matt is kylo ren but then cutting to him telling a sob story to presumably to get money from kylo because he kind of knows how these shows work so he knew it was kylo ren and he's He's just kind of like laying it on the sob story. So Kylo would like give him something like Matt. Kylo Ren as Matt, the radar technician using the force to choke Bobby's stormtrooper. Just all these fun beats. It's like a modern classic. And this is his second sketch as host of SNL. And he turned in like a modern classic right away. Yeah, exactly. Just right out of the gate. Gold. Like I was just so impressed. So that's undercover boss star killer base with Adam as Kylo Ren. One that I wanted to throw out there for sure, and maybe I'm showing my Vanessa Bear bias too, because she's great. I'm the biggest Vanessa Bear fan on the planet. The Golden Globes pre-tape.Track 4:[22:42] And again, one of those, and SNL did it really well around that time period where they showed a really cute subdued scene and then kind of juxtaposed it with something intense that was happening. So they like to do pre-tapes that had that kind of back and forth. So this one, it was Adam and Vanessa. They play a couple who just won the Golden Globes Award. And they have a wild night on the town. And then their kids, played by Kyle Mooney and Kate McKinnon, are just at home kind of waiting for them. When are mom and dad going to come back? And this and that. And they're just like peaceful, about to go to sleep. And just all hell breaks loose in this pre-tape. And it's one of my favorites. And I don't know how much SNL fans go back to it, but they really should. It's just like a favorite pre-tape of mine from this era ashley.Track 4:[23:29] I agree. Oh, my God. It's so funny. I loved the contrast of this. Yeah. You know, if you're watching, go to bed. And it transitions, yeah, into that. Oh, yeah. Like, what is actually happening when people say that there are kids, you know, going to bed and then waiting for mom and dad to come home and then the absolute shift to them doing cocaine off of the trophy. And like do you think mom and dad miss us and like this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to us forgetting about their kids um but i think what made this so fun you're oh my god yeah vanessa bayer agree she's lovely um she's amazing was i think this shows adam driver's range again that like his classical training and acting and his ability to bring that into like bring the intensity into this this sketch because he also starts as this cute like kind of dad and he's thanking everybody and then he you know picks the fight with keenan and vanessa's yelling at him like be a man for once and hit him and just completely escalating this whole situation, whoa guys guys sorry stars only you man don't push my wife be a man for once kevin hit him You don't want to hit me, sir. Hold on to your hats! You're about to get pounded!Track 4:[24:52] I thought that was so impressive. He runs off like Vanessa has left there to deal with security, and Adam just runs off. He ditches her. Yeah. Yes, so good. Yeah, I just thought that right off the bat, that shows his range. That he could, again, just like with the undercover boss sketch, be so intense, but make it so funny. Yeah. Yeah, they ended up having a, presumably having a fun night with Leo Schreiber as well. After Adam is talking about seeing him at the urinal and everything. And the next morning, Adam and Vanessa are passed out on the couch and Leo Schreiber's in the kitchen shirtless with an apron and making eggs in the kitchen. And the kids are like, he's like, you can get yourself dressed for school, right? That's probably best if you guys go do that. Yeah, he asked the kids, do you guys like eggs? They're like what is happening like oh good mom and dad got home they fell asleep and they're just like strewn about on the couch but as his boob is like hanging out of her dress like there's still cocaine on adam's face like it's just it's perfection yeah it's just madness yeah the golden globe sketch uh one that kind of like amongst a lot of those pre-tapes to me it kind of slid a little bit under the radar um but i think uh if you know you know and and that one's It's a great one.Track 4:[26:14] There's one, and I don't know, I may put you on the spot, but there's one in this episode that screamed Ashley to me. I don't know if we're on the same wavelength, but one in particular screamed Ashley Bauer to me. Do you want me to guess? Yes. Was it the Aladdin? No, it wasn't, but I can see that as well. Yeah, talk about that. I was like, that one, yeah. Big musical fan, obviously. Big Disney fan. And so the fact that he could sing, I know a lot of actors do have that training. I'm pretty sure he went to Juilliard, but for acting, that doesn't necessarily mean he can sing. But he didn't just sing with Cecily Strong. Like, he harmonized with her. Right? I was like, oh, okay. All right. Like, go off.Track 4:[27:03] And again, just the commitment and everything. I thought that one was so fun because it combined my love of Disney. Yeah. kind of a straight man yeah he is poor cecily's getting like hit with a bomb and like the plane like opens it's like it dumps all the bathroom stuff on her and she's just straight up not having a good time and he's so oblivious to it he just wants to sing his song um but no what was the one that you thought was was me it was america's funniest cats oh okay yeah no that's fair yeah because it reminded because i because i know like it so reminded me of like late 90s early 2000s snl uh with this was it was adam playing a kind of a nerdy weird guy named finn reynolds he does he hosts a show where he does like kind of goofy voiceovers for cat videos and then he has two french women on his guests played by kate and cecily so this was just like awesome and i'm like i bet i don't know for some reason i thought like i, I think Ashley might like this one. Okay, wow, you guys do it a little different than us. We try to make the bloopers a little sillier, like with sound effects and stuff. Do you know what I mean? I wake up boyoyong. Oh, boyoyong.Track 4:[28:19] We can try boyoyong. Oh, yeah, yeah, great. Throw some boyoyongs in there. I'm just going to roll a bunch of clips and you guys just go crazy, okay? Yes, of course. Boyoyong. this cat has neurological disorder she cannot gauge a distance between herself and the cow isn't that the one where uh yeah they played the french women and they're just completely like i don't want to i don't want to make anybody mad but like what you what they portray in the media as being uh traditional french women yeah like more nihilistic yeah yeah they're like um they make fun of the cats they're like kind of have more dark humor everything like the cat is doing that the cat's about to probably like die in the video like even if they're doing the cutest thing they're like so yeah but adam's adam plays this really fun nerdy guy that's again like almost he he's a outlandish character in his own right but he's almost in a way like a like a foil or like a straight person to them um their voiceovers are a lot darker than adam's so he's a good like foil to the dark voiceovers that Kate and Cecily provided. It was almost like an anti-Sprockets, where instead of the host being super dark and intense, the guests were, and the host was just trying to be this awkward, nerdy, funny guy doing these cute videos, and then.Track 4:[29:43] These women come on and completely like ah well maybe that's not exactly what i intended i absolutely love that comparison to sprockets like the inverse sprockets like that's so good what a great pull anytime i can shout out to mike myers like i'll find a way, yeah you're talking to someone who when he was a little kid dressed up in like a black turtleneck and pretended to be Dieter from Spraw Kids. So I just made Ashley choke on her wine.Track 4:[30:14] I can see that. And that must have been before we met. I know we've known each other a long time, but the fact that I never got to see this is so disappointing. I'm glad there wasn't like my parents weren't on social media at the time and taking pictures and post. Yeah, that would have been a mess. We're older than social media, Tom, unfortunately. So you lucked out.Track 4:[30:39] Uh yeah this was a fun i i have one more i don't know if anything one actually that really surprised me from this episode but i don't know if you have any shout outs uh any more from this his first hosting gig uh no i really yeah i'm not gonna lie the undercover boss one stood out oh wasn't this also the the season where he was playing the football announcer and pete davidson gets absolutely like laid out breaks his legs that was another really good one Yeah.Track 4:[31:09] He's not so much the star of that. Like he's kind of a side person in it. But that would really sit out to me from that episode as well. Yeah, that was a good one. That was the first sketch of the night. Actually, that like led off the night. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. There was one I kind of forgot about. And I loved Adam Driver, obviously, before I started going back and rewatching these episodes. But there was one called Awareness Seminar. it was adam and cecily and their class speakers talking about social social puppeteering to the class and the stories that adam and cecily are sharing are so good and these stories are just like giving kids ideas about like elaborate ways to like mess with their classmates and make them like gaslight them and just thinking certain things and and they're just like telling their classmates like avoid social puppeteering and watch out for this for example and then they'll go into like a story about social puppeteering the class is like that sounds so cool like.Track 4:[32:12] Inadvertently talking the class ended doing it but it was just like a little gem that i had forgot about okay well in simplest terms uh it's manipulating others for your own amusement i'm hijacking someone's reality to feel powerful here's an example of something i did in the sixth grade. I paid like 80 kids a buck to go up to this kid, Nathan, and say, hey, nice hat. So what's the problem? Nathan wasn't wearing a hat. If 80 kids say you're wearing a hat, you start thinking, maybe I'm wearing a hat. And watching him wrestle with that made me feel good. I took the most valuable thing he had, his mind. That's the idea behind social puppeteering. Any questions? i don't think there was a dud in this whole episode like the last sketch of the night it was um 80s character kid character who wanders into a porno scene that's right that's right.Track 4:[33:06] Oh, my gosh. So that's how they ended the night. Adam did a great job at bad acting in that sketch. But that's like, I don't think there were any misses his first hosting gig, which is rare for a first timer. Like sometimes even the great ones, you look at their first time and you're like, okay, there were like some bumps in the road. But I don't think there was like a bump in the road here, Ashley. No, I agree. And I think this shows how much faith and trust that the writers had in him as well to give him such big sketches for his first time hosting.Track 4:[33:40] So whatever they saw early in the week, I think really built that rapport and that trust because they did. They just kept giving him just like amazing sketch after amazing sketch. And he completely delivered on it. Like some of these, you know, could potentially have been duds, but I think he kind of took them across the finish line. And I think this was also our first glimpse into seeing the comedic chemistry he was going to have with Cecily Strong, like just how perfect they were in sketches together. They're so funny. And I'm glad that we got some more with them later when he came back. Yeah, 100%. So it didn't take that long for him to come back. Three seasons, which isn't that much. Season 44, he led off. It was the season premiere of season 44. And he wasn't done any favors with this one I don't think right off the bat Because they did.Track 4:[34:34] Such a long it was a brett kavanaugh cold open matt damon came on and played brett kavanaugh and i enjoyed it but it was so long i think it just kind of messed with like the timing of the show and the tempo and the vibe um so that was kind of weird like excited about the season premiere but like the brett kavanaugh thing had just happened um the the whole like uh the the hearing to try to see if they would confirm him for supreme court justice and so that was very topical, but it just went on for so long and it seemed like they were just playing catch up the entire night, but there were like some good stuff, including arguably the best sketch of the whole era. One of the best sketches of the entire era happened to this in this episode. So, so still like a great perform, great outing by, by Adam. Yeah, you're right. I mean, how do you follow Matt Damon playing completely?Track 4:[35:30] Shout out to Melissa Villasenor, white male rage character in Brett Kavanaugh. It kind of did monopolize the show. It took a really long time. And living in DC, I've gotten to see oral arguments now. And that has ruined me because listening to Justice Kavanaugh ask questions during oral argument, I'm sitting there trying not to giggle and break my bearing because all I can picture is Matt Damon playing him in Saturday Night Live but yeah like it was so hard I think to follow that such an aggressive.Track 4:[36:03] Tone although come to think of it maybe Adam was the perfect one to follow that because he is so intense and aggressive and we got um oh my gosh what was the character's name I remember Pete's name was like Mordecai in this are you talking about Abraham H Parnassus yes thank you oh my god yeah so we get your i think yeah one of the greatest sketches of the era maybe all time um i think anyone i talked to about adam driver doing snl this sketch always comes up i think more than any of the other ones and for good reason i keep talking about his commitment and dedication like this is exhibits a through like z right here everyone else is just dying and losing it in this sketch pete especially right in front of him and he doesn't blink he He doesn't flinch, he doesn't hesitate, like just utter commitment to staying in this character. Mr. Parnassus, why don't you tell us about what you do for a living? Hear me now, children. For my occupation is of much import. For 82 years, I've been an oil man, a baron, some have called me. Now what does an oil baron do? The answer?Track 4:[37:18] Crush your enemies grind their bones into dirt make them regret they were ever born oh sick yes speaking of my shout out to melissa v and senor a minute ago i think she kind of like she's the perfect side person for this sketch because her reactions to him oh my god we're so perfect i think her reactions are some are just as funny as him playing this um oil bear she's like yeah like jp higgins sucks like this is some of the best acting i think that adam's ever done honestly like in movies and girls uh this to me this career day sketch like can rival any of his best acting in that he's done in movies because commitment he was yelling about like crushing your enemy enemies and his feud with hr pickings i love these names for old oil like that's perfect um you mentioned melissa i think she was the one who said i want to be you when i grow up and then adam delivers perfectly and so you shall he gets like all intense it's like it's so ridiculous and pete knew how ridiculous and awesome it was gonna be because as soon as adam started i think even before when he just came out i think pete just looked at him and was like oh god he like kind of started giggling yeah uh pete loses it immediately Adam doesn't even open his mouth, and Pete's completely lost it.Track 4:[38:46] Yeah, this is Beloved for Good Reason. Career Day, he plays, again, Abraham H. Parnassus, which is right up there with Kylo Ren, whatever his character's name was in Marriage Story. I forgot, I liked him in that.Track 4:[39:03] Just anything, Adam from Girls, it just rivals to me. It rivals anything. I absolutely love this sketch. It is up there as far as like an essential, just amazing sketch from this whole era. So that's the first one that you got to shout out, right? Oh, for sure. I want to know if he improvised the part toward the end of that sketch where he throws the bird down on the floor and starts impaling it with his cane. Because everyone else's reaction in that room is like genuine shock and terror. And then kind of like trying not to crack up. And I think it appears to me, based on those reactions, either they were just so perfectly committed to nailing those reactions, or that was improv, because they seemed to not know that he was about to do it, which makes it even better. Yeah, yeah.Track 4:[39:54] Yeah, there's another one. Well, you had mentioned that he and Cecily had developed a rapport from the previous episode. And another one I liked from this, again, total commitment. There's anger, drama on both Adam and Cecily's part. It was that coffee shop one where they're drinking Domenico's coffee that they were told was actually Burger King coffee. And just Adam and Cecily's just dialing it up. They're dialing up the anger, dialing up the drama, all the way to 11. This is a fun sketch, I think. But the fun thing is, is that you actually drank BK Joe. Well, probably everyone else's is a BK Joe, but mine wasn't. I'm a Domenico's girl. My new wife is a Domenico's girl. Okay, sure, but that coffee is BK Joe. And get this, it costs just $1.99.Track 4:[40:48] $1.99? You better take that back, you pervert! Whoa, sir, there is no need for that. You fed my wife this garbage? Huh? This burger juice? How dare you? The day after our wedding. You came here the day after our wedding? And I'm already laughing because I love this sketch so much that to this day, I will be out getting coffee with my husband, and if we go to a new coffee shop, I'll be like, mm-mm, I'm a Dominico's girl. And I just completely start cracking myself up again. Yeah, he's so embarrassed to be around me, my poor husband. No, he's great, but he just knows me so well by now. He knows to expect it. But yeah, every time, like, mm-mm. No, I'm a Dominico's girl.Track 4:[41:30] That's awesome. Yeah, it's just sad that, like, Cecily does. And Adam found a true kind of, almost like his twin on the show in some ways, just in Cecily. Like, they worked off each other so well. like it was we saw that with the aladdin one before that but yeah this this sketch is like uh they're they're fueling each other like one neither of them are the straight person they're just like building off the other one's anger and rage and drama and it's just it's fantastic so uh we've learned today that ashley's a dominico's girl so and that this is a fun sketch, um those were yeah those were a couple highlights um i don't know if there's any more with this episode not many sketches like i said because it just got off to kind of a long start with the with a really long cold open, Yeah, so I'm glad that they gave him so many good ones for his first hosting gig. Obviously, I don't know that they were this prophetic to know that they wouldn't really have this chance the next time he hosted. But I think, you know, I think it was okay to kind of have a little bit more of a dud. And no fault to his own.Track 4:[42:43] But then, of course, you know, the next time we see him, the next two times we see him, I think they make up for it again. Oh, boy, do they. Yeah, no, this is like a classic. It seems like a classic episode. Um season 45 so he comes back the next season uh season 45 episode 11 um this one actually has my favorite monologue um by adam and actually one of my favorite monologues of this whole era i think um and adam's trying his best to be chill and he says he hates red carpet stuff because he's bad at smiling and then he's like uh walking toward the camera and staring into the camera But the whole conceit is just like, I'm just going to try to be chill for this monologue up here. And it's just Adams can't do chill very well, actually.Track 4:[43:34] No, not so much. And I think this shows how self-deprecating he is, too. And I know we see this. They do this every now and then for those actors that maybe kind of get a certain reputation in the media about how their personality is. And they come on SNL to debunk this myth that this is how they really are, but then ultimately the formula of the sketch is to just really prove everybody right at the end of the day. I'm not an intense guy. I'm actually very chill. So tonight I'm just going to be myself, open up a bit, and be chill. Can we get some chill music? No, I don't like that. Can you play something else?Track 4:[44:17] Okay, I like that less. Can you go back to the first one? Okay, that's fine. You can hear that's better, right? Okay, good. Anyway, I'm very chill, and I'm just gonna prove it. I'm just gonna, you know, Take my time up here, be myself, and enjoy this moment.Track 4:[44:37] Yeah, I think he does this so well, too, again, because, again, starting from the beginning, I'm super chill. Three notes into the song that he asks the band to play. No, I don't like that. Change it.Track 4:[44:50] Like, five notes into the second one. Actually, no, I like this less. Go back. He's just being this, like, demanding diva. um and i know i talked a little bit earlier about like his first monologue and kind of how he was interacting with the other cast members but yeah this one you're right he's interacting with the band he's interacting with the cameras he does the awkward sit next to the audience member kind of thing and tries to yeah i can sit and talk to the people and then just kind of gives him this action figure thing and if i see this on ebay i'm gonna kill you um it's just yes you're it's so memorable so funny yeah these are the types of monologues in my opinion that all-time great hosts do like i can see steve martin tom hanks alec baldwin like any of the all-time greats just holding court in a monologue like that looking so comfortable so confident they're owning the main stage they're owning home base there in studio 8h and this is just a throwback back to like this is a monologue that that i watch and i'm going like this guy is an all-time great and this is something that makes me confident in calling him like a top 10 host ever is because of something like this like it's it's just it's just it was just so fun to watch it it's like one of those monologues honestly that like made me makes me uh reaffirms why i like watching snl because i get to see something great like this.Track 4:[46:18] Yeah, and it's something that could have just completely failed if he didn't have the ability to carry it. Like, he carries this entire monologue that could have been so awkward and just nails it. It's quiet. It's just him. He's interacting with these other people and entities, but they're not really engaging back with him. Like, he's carrying this whole monologue, and it's funny from start to finish. And I just think that, yeah, it really goes to show how talented he is at this. And it's so fun to see. Yeah, people, you need to go back and watch his monologue from season 45, episode 11. To me, it's like up there with like some of the better like Martin Short monologues or hosts like that. It's pretty awesome. So I was in New York this weekend.Track 4:[47:05] And my wife and I were leaving our luggage at our hotel to go like do some sightseeing before we had to get back and then go to the airport. They told us how much it was. they said that they didn't take card and I looked at my wife and I was like oh man I'm all out of cash so so that made me that reminded me of such a classic sketch from from this episode Ashley that was a that was a shaggy a little shaggy dog way to get to to get to this Del Taco sketch, I love it oh my gosh did you pick this sketch because of my prior comments about Kyle Mooney a little bit, i mean because part of me is like oh another kyle mooney sketch but then well like the evil part of me is like oh this entire sketch is like designed to absolutely humiliate him 100 yeah and i will say i end up i do end up feeling so bad for him by the end of it when he's like fake crying um because they make him say the line like 100 times over again and it's still wrong and they're just telling him how bad he is at it yeah yeah let's hear it oh man i'm I'm all out of cash. Aw, man, I'm all out of cash. No, you don't want to kill yourself. You just want to talk about it.Track 4:[48:18] You should be like, aw, man, I'm all out of cash. Okay. Now say it. Aw, man, I'm all out of cash. Aw, man, I'm all out of cash. No, you're not a pervert. He's got to get out of his head. I think we just got to beat the hell out of this guy. No, no, no, no, we can't. Aw, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap. I know, sir. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Adam plays such a great, like, he plays the VP of branding for Del Taco. Del Taco. They're shooting a Del Taco commercial. Beck's the director. Chloe Fineman. It's an early, I guess, early Chloe Fineman. I was surprised. I actually kind of forgot that Chloe was in this sketch. So it's early Chloe Fineman and Adam or Kyle are playing these two actors. And he and Kyle has to say the line, oh man, I'm at it all out of cash. And Beck's trying to coach him.Track 4:[49:09] And You don't want to kill yourself. You just want a taco. You're not a pervert. Just all these different things. He looks at Beck and he's like, I think we just got to beat the hell out of this guy. And then he's like, put your shirt on your head like Cornholio. Take your pants off. Like Cornholio. I love that. He just kind of slid that in. We all know who he's talking about. The great Cornholio. This is another classic So like You can watch all four of his Episodes and I think there's like Classics from the era Yeah, in each one of those episodes. And to me, this is one of them. This Del Taco commercial shoot. I think immediately, Ashley, I looked online when it happened and people were repeating that line right away. It became an instant classic. So where does I say, oh, I'm a Domenico's girl. You're the, oh, I'm all out of cash. No, it's like, oh, man, I'm all out of cash.Track 4:[50:21] Please don't make me do it like Cornholio. You just crack each other up drinking Domenico's while eating Del Taco. That would be it. Yes. That would be a fun time. What else do you need? They also did, Ashley, a sequel to a sketch that we both loved from his first gig. It's the undercover boss, Where Are They Now? So how did you feel about part two of this undercover boss? I really liked it. It's always so hard to do a sequel to anything. I was just so happy to have him back. Um i didn't think it was quite as good as the first one that may be in a popular opinion, um but i think i've probably just built up in my head so much like the perfection that is the first one that yeah you know there's no way to ever really compare it um but yeah obviously it was such a favorite they knew they had to bring it back for the fans i'm so glad they did yeah well it got a huge cheer when the sketch started it got a huge cheer so we showed how beloved the The last one was immediately they showed Adam as Kylo and everybody just start shooting because they knew what they were in for pretty much. And then it has a gif that that kind of lives on toward the end when he's giving that strained kind of thumbs up at the at the end of the sketch. So for nothing else, like I thought this was a pretty good sketch, but then like that thumbs up kind of lives on.Track 4:[51:44] Yeah, I mean, again, no shade to Adam Driver. I think he nails it again. I think it's kind of just more some of the other people. Bobby Moynihan, just not sure enough sucks. Like, when you go from that to, like, everybody else, you don't have Leslie Jones anymore, you know. Maybe I'm just biased again because I loved those actors so much. But, yeah, if nothing else, at least now our world is blessed with that gif of the author of Thumbs Up. There's a series of sketches that I think Adam's, like, a perfect host to play. So it's the science science room sketches and he could play really annoyed, like very, very well. Uh, so, so he plays the host of the science room. Of course you have like Mikey and Cecily is their little kid characters who, who are just like the most annoying little kids. But isn't Adam not perfect for something like this? Oh my God. Yes. Cause again, just his complete ability to, and he times the escalation of his aggression. So wow. Like he doesn't come out of the gate at a hundred. Like he really knows how to just dial it up a little bit more, a little bit more each time. And you see that with this, like at first he's like so happy about the kids and seems like, you know, a TV host that's going to be so natural and doing a science show with kids. And then just completely ends it with like wanting to absolutely murder these dumb children. And he's throwing the tape like through the window and.Track 4:[53:11] Um, again, just Cecily, like, I think she helps carry that through, like her comedic timing and delivery of the, you know, somewhat inappropriate comments about what her sister says about what happens in the science room. Always. Yeah. It's always something she, she repeats what her sister says. What comes first in the science room? Um, the guy, the guy. Yeah. My, my older sister said the guy like always comes first oh my god no no that's not what that means the guy does not come first here the girl comes first no my sister said the girl never comes it's safety safety comes first.Track 4:[53:56] That was an awful conversation we just had adam had the best response uh he just sort of casually goes like that was an awful conversation we just had it was like the way he said it was like i was like the voice for us like yeah that was somebody like called it out yeah i love it i love when snl does that too um i think by one of my favorite examples of that is uh again kind of going a little off topic i apologize but the larry david episode where they're doing the fbi training and pete davidson just simply repeats what larry david said with this like like incredulous like just demeanor like did he just say can a bitch get a donut and it's like the audience yeah you're right it's just really repeating what the audience is thinking in that moment it seems so simple but it's.Track 4:[54:50] Kind of i think it makes the audience like oh yeah that's right yeah this is funny because this is exactly what i'm thinking and i think adam did the same thing in this sketch yeah for sure that's like a mikey day street or side l kind of thing too i think yeah yeah like the audience perspective um in that as well though uh yeah just a wonderful uh the science room they've done that a few times and you need those like great actors who can like pull off that sort of frustration that like escalating sort of frustration that adam did um i have one more that i think that i really love from this uh from this episode i don't know if you have anything from his third hosting gig that that we should go over um no yeah those are kind of the big ones for me i think we might be thinking about the next the same next sketch though the only other one i can think about from this uh episode well mine was um it's an example of a sketch that has a ridiculous premise and kind of really works because of someone like adam i guess adam and cecily again and it's the marrying ketchups sketch yes that they did at the end of the night and it's just like of course at a restaurant one of the closing duties married the ketchups or whatever so they're pretending to like have a wedding with the ketchups and So basically Adam and Cecily are playing these catch-ups. I think Kyle comes in as like Cholula or something.Track 4:[56:17] But this is such a dumb, dumb premise that I find really entertaining.Track 4:[56:22] And it's basically because of Adam and Cecily. So them as a duo I find really entertaining performing a really dramatic dumb scene.Track 4:[56:33] Wanda, I know you're only a quarter full and I'm three quarters full. But together it won't matter We'll just be one full ketchup No, we won't Because I'm not ketchup at all, i'm catsup what did you just say you heard me.Track 4:[56:54] You're telling me i've been gallivanting around town with some cheap off-brand generic ketchup, don't you dare you're not even heinz you dirty hunt you're really gonna call me a hunt in front of my family i love it because it's supposed to be like this dramatic.Track 4:[57:12] Like almost marriage story-esque you're right and um he's yelling at her and the puns are just chef's kiss like you're right it could be so dumb it could be so bad but they nailed it like i don't relish telling you this but like it's like come on like please um and i think it it was heidi gardner who was it was heidi who was yeah heidi was the manager i think heidi bryant played the manager yes yes and it's um cecily almost she kind of breaks a little bit when she like breaks off the label and realize it reveals that she's catsup and not ketchup and he's just appalled um and then they have the little like ketchup packet baby i can't like everything about out this sketch is so funny to me but i do kind of like dumb humor yeah no absolutely no dumb humor is great especially on snl it's like i don't know like the commitment just to just to really to sell something dumb is just like it's one of the reasons why i do love the show is just to see these just sometimes you see these people sell the most ridiculous thing and it's It's like they're just putting themselves out there to look stupid and to have fun. That's a lot of reason why I watch the show. And something like this, it's just like it's perfectly executed in that.Track 4:[58:40] Oh yeah and like when she she starts kind of pushing back she's like well at least i don't have to slap him on the back for him to perform yeah yeah oh that's that so we were both thinking the same thing that's marrying catch-ups that was the last uh it was like a 10 to 1 it was the last uh sketch of the night um very great episode his third one we had a classic monologue the del taco commercial shoot was classic some other like really fun sketches um adam got to show his acting chops a lot in the medieval times sketch adam got to show like some really over dramatic fun acting like a like adam driver does um so really really strong third outing people were clamoring for him to come back it's just like he's showing that he's an all-time great already but we need him back and when they announced him and kate hosting i think they hosted like back to back they were part of a batch of uh announcements it was like okay we're in for something special uh so adam came back this past season in season 49 um and i think one of these sketches was probably my top two sketches of the season and adam played it perfectly but the but this was like a i think season 49 was maybe kind of an up and down episode but.Track 4:[1:00:05] To me this was like had a lot of highs compared to a lot of the other episodes of this season but like when you saw adam was coming back like excitement oh yeah definitely like i said you know he he came out just from his his very first season of hosting and was so good at it.Track 4:[1:00:22] If he just kept getting better and better every time they've announced him, I've been so, so excited. I'm going to be even more excited if they announce him for a fifth hosting gig, but yeah, definitely always excited to have him back.Track 4:[1:00:38] Yeah. So, so I think, I think some fans felt like it was bumpy to start the season. And then we were like, Oh, Adam's coming back and Kate McKinnon's coming to host. Like, so this, this really like, I think rejuvenated a lot of people.Track 4:[1:00:51] And, um, the sketch that I want, that I wanted to bring up first was like, uh, maybe my favorite sketch of the season. There's another one with Kristen, in the Jumanji sketch was up there too um but beep beep um with Adam and uh Andrew just mukes essentially kind of facing off in this sketch like Andrew's honestly my favorite current cast member to so to see Andrew and his weird humor uh his kind of intense silly humor play off of adam so well uh in this sketch which is like it's kind of a dumb premise like two guys are like putting their dishes on the table and saying excuse me beep beep so they use the word beep beep and then adam and andrew get there at the same time and they say beep beep and then it starts getting tense it's like a tense standoff i'm sorry boys is everything all right everything's fine sweetie i said beep beep no no no no no no i said beep beep no no no no no no i don't think you understand see i'm a little car right now and i'm honking at you with my little horn.Track 4:[1:02:12] Beep beep you couldn't get two better people one you couldn't get a better host two you couldn't andrew was the perfect cast member to pull this off so beep beep ashley maybe my favorite sketch at least in the top two of the season oh yeah i think that one really threw me off i didn't think, you know it was gonna be as good as it was when it kind of first starts like oh here's another like holiday get together type sketch you know they do these all the time um but oh my gosh Gosh, you're right. I do feel like Andrew Dismutes has been kind of this like dark horse, this silent assassin where you didn't really –.Track 4:[1:02:47] He's so kind of quiet and unassuming, seemingly, that you think he's just going to be hiding in the background. But I remember being so impressed with how well he held his own with Adam Driver in this scene. Adam is so intense. He's so experienced. And Andrew Dismukes is still kind of new. And you could not tell. and I know you got a little of that too when he had that sketch with Ryan Gosling where Ryan's trying to like bail on the engagement and I feel like you get kind of that same Andrew Dismukes with Adam Driver in the Beat Beats sketch, and yeah like that same just perfection of escalating it at the right time, but also I think anyone who's been to like a dinner party with their parents was like oh my god yes like this This is the cringy stuff that dads do with each other. But to see the twist of it turning into this, like, fight to the death is so funny. One of them must relent.Track 4:[1:03:54] Yeah, it's just, I'm a sucker, just in my time as an SNL fan, I'm such a sucker for silly premises that take dramatic, tense turns. Like, as you mentioned, it's a silly premise. this you know dumb dads are just like goofy dads i should say uh just kind of doing their thing and i just love when those types of slice of life kind of things take such a dramatic turn and it's just tense and you see andrew looking at him just staring into like adam's soul and like i said beep beep and it's just like it turns like such like cold tense like wow okay like that escalated. I'm a sucker for that, Ashley. Out of like the different sketch types, that's one of my absolute favorites. Oh, yeah, I think it goes back to what we were talking about the juxtaposition of, you know, where they like for the pre taper, they do something so calm and kind of sweet. And then it turns into this like epic, like, rage type scene, you know, next. And obviously, this is a little bit of a different formula, but they write the same idea of something that could be so dumb, but that everybody connects with everyone thinks is funny, because they've executed it so well. And then you just have Caden come in and he shows his gun like just takes it from a hundred to like a million.Track 4:[1:05:14] I just oh my god yeah perfect way to end it because sometimes I do take issue you know they're not really quite sure how to end really good sketches sometimes, and sometimes there's just this kind of awkward fade away but not with this one like start to finish, I think it's James Austin Johnson is one of the people in the back like kind of like Like, yeah, explaining, no, no, no, like, this, once they said beep beep, you cannot relent, like you said. Yeah, beep beep, I'll continue to spread the good word about this sketch, because it immediately, like, impressed me and floored me. It was awesome. Yeah, this episode was one of my favorites of the season, probably. You had him and Bowen as that gay couple that just told their friends like that they're trying. I'm so, so happy for you. So tell all now, what's your plan? Are you gonna adopt? No, we're just gonna try. Oh, so then you're doing the surrogate route. That's great. Huh, surrogacy. Well, maybe down the line, but for now we're just gonna try. Trying so uh don't come knocking on our door either oh.Track 4:[1:06:34] Heidi michael sarah and andrew all asking them like so how are you are you adopting he's like no we're just trying okay like yeah so i just love their like him and bowen just kind of casually just throwing out that they're trying so that was something else that stood out to me i mean anything with bowen of course he's so good at playing off anybody as well like he's so versatile i love it yeah no yeah what'd you think about this episode as a whole and anything that like that you may have enjoyed i yeah i mean obviously yeah the beat beat was the one that stood out to me the most so we were trying um the old friends one was really funny but kind of like reaching out hadn't heard from somebody in a while like that would also kind of take like a really dark turn. But yeah, you know, I feel like.Track 4:[1:07:26] This episode showed a little bit more that they don't always like the sketches don't always have to be him front center. Like he can also, I think play like the side guy, the side person and, you know, really still contribute and, and not just be somebody who's hiding in the corner or they're not just throwing him in because he's the host. Um, and he wants a certain amount of screen time. And I think he ends up really contributing to everything that he's in, whether he's front and center or he's playing one of the side characters. And I think we've got probably a few more sketches, I'd say, where he was the side character in this one. Or maybe even a little bit calmer sometimes. Yeah, especially toward the end. Yeah, there was like a PSA, which is like elderly people saying like, stop pranking me, basically. So you have all these elderly people. Yeah. And Adam was just part of an ensemble there. Tiny Ass Bag ended the night. And Adam was just sort of part of the sketch. But he's front and center when he's playing a baby on an airplane. Oh my god, yes. Adam's front and center for that one. Okay, yeah.Track 4:[1:08:32] I mean, that's an example of a sketch that could go off the rails so quickly if the host isn't selling it. And Adam is selling it. It's just his face because basically he's sticking his head through an airplane seat and then it's like a little baby's body. So it's just Adam facial expressions as far as like his ears hurt and, his mom is playing like a Peekaboo or not peekaboo, but like showing him his toy and like where'd it go and then Adams like oh my god he's like so this is just total like facial acting just commitment and another sketch that could really go off the rails unless It's like a confident really great host. I've been there before raised three on my own. How old is he? Oh.Track 4:[1:09:22] I'm 11 months oh oh wow you mean 11 months in like 15 000 days my ears feel strange.Track 4:[1:09:36] It's okay honey that's just the pressure from being up high yeah no my ears they feel different i don't like it, it's okay here do you want your ipad sweetie the peppa pig device that is the only thing i want, and i think too like this shows like he's so willing to not take himself too seriously like the sketches that he's taken on and agreed to do and then just absolutely nailed i think shows that like he's not afraid of looking silly he's not afraid of being stupid um and you're right kind of taking these premises that coul
Before Langston Kerman was one of the most exciting stand-up comedians working right now, he taught poetry to high school students. As he tells the audience in his debut Netflix special ‘Bad Poetry,' he was desperate to find another path for his life. In this episode, Kerman talks about getting his big break writing for Oscars host Chris Rock (even if he didn't get a single joke on the broadcast), convincing his favorite comedian John Mulaney to direct his special, trying not to alienate Larry David during his very first Hollywood gig, and why he fears that fans of HBO's ‘Insecure' will never, ever let him “be free.” He also shares some behind-the-scenes stories from his time writing on the year's most brilliantly weird talk show, ‘Everybody's in LA,' including the one pitch that was deemed too weird by Mulaney. Listen to My Momma Told Me with Langston Kerman and David GborieFollow Langston Kerman on Instagram @langstonkermanFollow Matt Wilstein on Threads @mattwilsteinFollow The Last Laugh on Instagram @lastlaughpod and Threads @lastlaughpodHighlights from this episode and others at The Daily Beast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jimmy Kimmel's Oscars hosting streak has come to an end. Kimmel, who has hosted the Oscars four times, stated that he “always dreamed of hosting the Oscars exactly four times,” so when he was asked to host the 2025 Oscars on March 2, he took a pass. John Mulaney was one of the leading candidates to host the 2025 Academy Awards should Kimmel decline, but Mulaney has passed as well due to “scheduling conflicts.” A wax figure of legendary Irish singer Sinéad O'Connor was unveiled at the National Wax Museum in Dublin, and it was ... not good. This brings us to take a look at the worst celebrity wax figures of all time: Angelina Jolie, Julia Roberts, Sylvester Stallone, John Travolta, Miley Cyrus, Barack Obama, and many more! Go to trymiracle.com/NORMAL and use code NORMAL to claim your FREE THREE-PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40%. Guests: Matt McClowry and Derek Richards
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This time What's New to Netflix is back, even though we never left, and we talk about new movies and shows coming to Netflix in May 2024 for the first half of the episode, like we usually do. Then we watch Aaron Eckhart as an ex-CIA agent who has to team up with Nina Dobrev and defeat an insane villain in The Bricklayer from 2023. Next, it's the sequel to the first Rebel Moon flick, Rebel Moon - Part Two: The Scargiver, from 2024, directed by Zack Snyder. And finally, it's the Oscar-worthy performance from Will Smith as he portrays Venus and Serena Williams father in King Richard from 2021. All of this plus The Month of Mulaney, the underrated Hulk movie from 2003, neanderthal secrets, Tom Brady getting roasted, Archer, the return of Bridgerton, Tires, Reading Rainbow, sudden girlfriends, and how it's still The Month of Mulaney! got a suggestion for the show?: whatsnewtonetflix@gmail.com
On this week's show, the hosts begin by dissecting The Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, the fourth chapter in the Apes franchise. Set “many generations” in the future, the latest installment (directed by Wes Ball and starring Owen Teague) is an undeniably well-crafted summer blockbuster – but does it achieve the level of complexity and thought its predecessors did? (Read Dana's review for Slate for further analysis.) Then, it's onto John Mulaney Presents: Everybody's in LA, a six-part live Netflix special that aired during the streaming giant's comedy festival. The conceit is thus: Netflix is a Joke attracts the best comedians in the world to LA, John Mulaney interviews them. But the final product is much stranger than that description, both a rejection and reinvention of the tired late-night talk show format, in which Mulaney interviews celebrities and non-celebrities, airs sketches, and delivers long monologues on the character of LA. Is Everybody's in LA chaotic and sloppy, or a ragged delight? Our panel discusses. Finally, the trio is joined by Slate's music critic, Carl Wilson, to eulogize the legendary musician and “producing engineer” (his preferred title) Steve Albini. Known for recording albums with Joanna Newsom, Nirvana, and the Pixies, among others, Albini considered himself a documentarian of sound and a technical expert, and brought his punk-rock ethic to everything he did. Read Steve Albini's essay, “The Problem with Music” and his letter to Nirvana. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, the panel discusses cultural arbitrage with Slate's music critic, Carl Wilson, inspired by W. David Marx's essay for The Atlantic, “The Diminishing Returns of Having Good Taste.” Email us at culturefest@slate.com. Endorsements: Dana: “Who's Afraid of Judith Butler?” – a profile of the philosopher and gender theorist by Parul Sehgal for The New Yorker. Julia: “Espresso” by Sabrina Carpenter. Stephen: The delightful, catchy, and exuberant (with a tincture of melancholy) music of New Zealand band, Yumi Zuma. (Check out Steve's playlist here.) Podcast production by Jared Downing. Production assistance by Kat Hong. Hosts Dana Stephens, Julia Turner, Stephen Metcalf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's show, the hosts begin by dissecting The Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, the fourth chapter in the Apes franchise. Set “many generations” in the future, the latest installment (directed by Wes Ball and starring Owen Teague) is an undeniably well-crafted summer blockbuster – but does it achieve the level of complexity and thought its predecessors did? (Read Dana's review for Slate for further analysis.) Then, it's onto John Mulaney Presents: Everybody's in LA, a six-part live Netflix special that aired during the streaming giant's comedy festival. The conceit is thus: Netflix is a Joke attracts the best comedians in the world to LA, John Mulaney interviews them. But the final product is much stranger than that description, both a rejection and reinvention of the tired late-night talk show format, in which Mulaney interviews celebrities and non-celebrities, airs sketches, and delivers long monologues on the character of LA. Is Everybody's in LA chaotic and sloppy, or a ragged delight? Our panel discusses. Finally, the trio is joined by Slate's music critic, Carl Wilson, to eulogize the legendary musician and “producing engineer” (his preferred title) Steve Albini. Known for recording albums with Joanna Newsom, Nirvana, and the Pixies, among others, Albini considered himself a documentarian of sound and a technical expert, and brought his punk-rock ethic to everything he did. Read Steve Albini's essay, “The Problem with Music” and his letter to Nirvana. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, the panel discusses cultural arbitrage with Slate's music critic, Carl Wilson, inspired by W. David Marx's essay for The Atlantic, “The Diminishing Returns of Having Good Taste.” Email us at culturefest@slate.com. Endorsements: Dana: “Who's Afraid of Judith Butler?” – a profile of the philosopher and gender theorist by Parul Sehgal for The New Yorker. Julia: “Espresso” by Sabrina Carpenter. Stephen: The delightful, catchy, and exuberant (with a tincture of melancholy) music of New Zealand band, Yumi Zuma. (Check out Steve's playlist here.) Podcast production by Jared Downing. Production assistance by Kat Hong. Hosts Dana Stephens, Julia Turner, Stephen Metcalf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Life is comfortable in the ivory tower. You can look down on the rest of the world from the observatory window, seated next to your collection of books chock full of ancient wisdom and quips. The Jedi Order was trapped in this state during the years leading up to the Star Wars prequel trilogy (Episodes I, II, III). The Jedi Council literally sat around at the top of an ivory-looking tower on Coruscant, projecting outward their enlightenment and supernatural power as they looked out on Coruscant from the council chamber. How nice. Yes, there were Jedi of action. If you weren't on the Council, you were doing missions more regularly and seeing the real state of the galaxy. But if you moved up the Council, your world would be books, meditation, politics, and endless discussion. This is famously why Qui-Gon Jinn rejected an offer to join the Jedi Council when a seat opened up. During the Clone Wars period, Jedi Council members experienced more regular deployment into the field, leading many to die in battle. But again, it was not the historical norm. Why am I going on about this? Philosophy is for living and leadingI too like my books. I like my office. I like sitting in it, with my books, reading, highlighting, and writing about what I absorb. It's nice and very cozy. Over the last week though, I've been faced with a call to leave the coziness of my office and enter a different space, one I'd say is a bit more uncomfortable and perilous. I didn't want to answer that call, which I'd received from a number of people in my community, asking me to consider running for City Council in Manassas, Virginia. A lane was open and no one was stepping in to fill it. That means the city gets more of the same in terms of leadership. I thought of Geeky Stoics, my writing, and my time to be alone and think about philosophy, and I didn't like the idea at all.Then I remembered something. The Stoics were (mostly) doers. Many of the Roman Stoics at their peak were ivory tower types in that they were privileged and powerful, but they were “in the arena” as it were, and engaged in public life. Seneca, advisor to the emperor, a masterful politician, and a former senator. Marcus Aurelius, emperor of Rome, not by blood but by merit. He didn't want the purple robe of the emperorship, and he feared it greatly. Thomas Jefferson famously passed away with a copy of Seneca by his bedside. John Adams wrote with great knowledge and appreciation of Epictetus and Aurelius, and George Washington also kept the words of Seneca close as he rose into leadership roles in the Continental Army. To say nothing of President Teddy Roosevelt adventuring through the Amazon with Meditations in his backpack…..Rolling back the clock a bit to Greece, the Stoic known as Cleanthes was known to haul water buckets around on a pole to water the gardens of wealthy homeowners in Athens. He was mocked relentlessly for working to make a living for himself. Cleanthes was also a boxer for most of his life, before becoming the head of the Stoic school in ancient Greece. He succeeded its founder, a man known as Zeno, and was known for doing things with his hands as a means to strengthen his mind. “Be a boxer, not a gladiator, in the way you act on your principles. The gladiator takes up his sword only to put it down again, but the boxer is never without his fist and has only to clench it.” - Marcus Aurelius, MeditationsThat's why Marcus Aurelius wrote fondly of Cleanthes in Meditations, saying one should be a boxer, not a gladiator….because a boxer never lays down his weapon. He carries it with him wherever he goes. Stoic philosophy was for people “in the field” of life. Not their home office. Isolated on an island with a libraryI'm reminded of Luke Skywalker as seen in Episode VIII: The Last Jedi, where he's mostly given up on life and the fight against darkness. He is holed up on the island of Ahch-To, hoarding ancient Jedi texts in a library within a tree. It's not a perfect analogy, but at this time in his life, Luke valued the books more than he did the application of what was inside of them. He had resolved to die alone on the island, and let the way of the Jedi die with him. Yet, he was somehow still really attached to the books. When Master Yoda appears to him to give a much-needed pep talk, Yoda calls on lightning from the sky and sets the tree library ablaze. Luke is horrified. Yoda laughs. He reminds Luke that they are just old books, not page-turners. The truth (which Luke does not know) is that Rey snuck the books out of the library before leaving the island. As the tree burns, the books are safe, and Yoda knows that. But he wants Luke to feel something real: the pain of letting them go. We are called to be leaders in the world. Books and studies are for Hobbits in the Shire. The goal for each of us, “Geeky Stoics”, should be to take those books on the road and on great adventures. We'll miss the simplicity of our old life, Bilbo Baggins certainly did. But these aren't works of fiction for leisure. The books on my desk right now: The Bible, Seneca's Letters from a Stoic, and Meditations, these are field manuals. You take them out into the world. Y'all, I am terrified of what life looks like from now until November when America goes to vote in the 2024 election. I'll be on the ballot in Manassas for City Council, and until then I will be spending more time out in the city talking to my neighbors and asking people to support me in my candidacy. I have some ideas for the city I'm excited about, and I really just want to be an open ear for everyday people in my community who feel like the council doesn't listen to them.In the months ahead I anticipate being verbally attacked, maligned in mailers, gossiped about on weird Facebook Group pages run by the opposition. I know myself and I know that I like to be liked. It's gonna hurt when the slings and arrows start flying from people whom I've never met and the entrenched local politicians who take offense that anyone would dare challenge their leadership. I love this bit from comedian John Mulaney in his Netflix special where he talks about how his wife is awesome because she doesn't care one bit what people think of her. I say this often about my wife, Mel, who ran fearlessly for the city school board in 2022. She took cruel attacks from both sides of the aisle with such stoic grace. Mulaney goes “When I walk down the street I need everybody…all day long…to like me so much, it's exhausting! My wife said that walking around with me is like walking with someone running for mayor of nothing.” He goes on to describe how he got a Best Buy Rewards Card once because he didn't want the employee to be mad at him. Classic. I'm more like John. I am energized by bringing people together and finding common ground in a divisive world. That lights me up inside. But I have learned good and well that in politics (the arena) there are people who are fueled by the opposite. They love division, foolishness, and slander, and they wake up every day with a sense of paranoia and suspicion. I think power does this to people, even in more small, local elected offices. “Begin each day by telling yourself: Today I shall be meeting with interference, ingratitude, insolence, disloyalty, ill-will, and selfishness – all of them due to the offenders' ignorance of what is good or evil (right or wrong)……..” - Marcus Aurelius, part 1 of 2. Geeky Stoics is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.We are designed for cooperationI'll wrap this up. Now you know, I'm going to be running for Manassas City Council this year. Nothing changes for Geeky Stoics. I just need to work with my friend and collaborator, Riley Blanton, to stay organized so that we're writing for you on the same regular basis about the philosophy within pop culture. If you want to support me in the campaign, it goes without saying I appreciate it. It's much needed. To close, meditate on this passage from Marcus Aurelius, where he speaks about what to expect from each day. He is not being cynical or crude when he says there will be fools and ill-will found in each day. That's reality. But what he says after the passage above is so important, and often left out when Aurelius' is quoted. He reminds himself (and us, the reader he never anticipated having ) that even amidst stupidity and malice, our human duty is to work with others in a gracious spirit. We forgive the slights and attacks because as students of philosophy, we know that we are meant for cooperation with others, just as our hands, feet, and eyelids strive to work in sync. That is what nature demands of us. “….But for my part I have long perceived the nature of good and its nobility, the nature of evil and its meanness, and also the nature of the culprit himself, who is my brother (not in the physical sense, but as a fellow creature similarly endowed with reason and a share of the divine); therefore none of those things can injure me, for nobody can implicate me in what is degrading. Neither can I be angry with my brother or fall foul of him; for he and I were born to work together, like a man's two hands, feet or eyelids, or the upper and lower rows of his teeth. To obstruct each other is against Nature's law – and what is irritation or aversion but a form of obstruction.” - Marcus Aurelius, part 2 of 2 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.geekystoics.com/subscribe
This week we're back with the popular Roundtable episode of the program. In this version we invited Ashley Bower and Deremy Dove to share their ballots with host Thomas Sena. Enjoy and don't forget to vote! https://forms.gle/ECAVQbPBE6r3krpS6Transcript:Track 2:[0:42] Yes, hello, welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame podcast.Track 2:[0:45] I'm your master of ceremonies, your co-host for today's proceedings, Thomas Senna. Everybody, welcome. I think I would be remiss, and I think I need to do, Jamie, do a solid here, because it's very important to Jamie for me to tell you to wipe your feet before you enter the SNL Hall of Fame. I think Jamie would fire me from this post if I didn't tell you guys that. So welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame. Today is our customary end of season extravaganza. It's the SNL Hall of Fame Roundtable. This is the show in which we invite SNL Hall of Fame voters to share their ballots and their thought processes behind their choices. So this is always an interesting exercise to get into the psyche of some of the voters.Track 2:[1:40] Previous roundtables, I think minds have been changed. I think people have stood on islands and been steadfast on who they're voting for. It was interesting to see. I think we all just gained a great insight as to what voters may be thinking. Friendships were formed. I think rivalries were formed. So we've had some interesting roundtables in the past. It's always nice to get a peek into the mindset of SNL Hall of Fame voters. So with me today is two of my guests for this past season on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast.Track 2:[2:16] One first-time roundtable panelist, which is going to be fun. I'm excited to hear her thoughts today.Track 2:[2:24] So we have two panelists, and for full disclosure, for transparency here on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast, I will be sharing my ballot as well. So it's going to be the three of us sharing ballots today. So I'm not just like the co-host here on the SNL Hall of Fame. I am a panelist today, and I will give some transparency and let you all know my ballot and how I'm feeling about the voting cycle, about the votes this year. So without further ado, let me introduce our panel for today. And I have an icebreaker question, too. So I'm going to introduce them. My icebreaker question, I asked this last panel, last roundtable, and got some interesting responses. I haven't asked these to this question. I don't think. So...Track 2:[3:15] I want to ask which current cast member, not including Kenan Thompson, because that's the obvious one. Kenan's an SNL Hall of Famer. So not including Kenan Thompson, who on the current cast could you see in the SNL Hall of Fame someday? So that's going to be the little icebreaker question. Get a little peek into the mindset of our panel today. So my first guest, Ashley Bauer, SNL super fan. My guest for Kate McKinnon this year. Ashley did such a great job. And Ashley, thank you so much for joining us today here on the roundtable. How are you? Good. Good to see and talk to you again. Excited to be back. Yeah, this is great. So which current cast member, not including Kenan, that's the obvious one, could you see in the SNL Hall of Fame someday?Track 2:[4:03] So I thought about this and I went back and forth between two, but I think my vote's going to ultimately go to Bowen Yang. I'm going to have to give it to Bowen. And I think he kind of came out of the gate, you know, really with a bang. And he's really been in some pretty epic and memorable sketches already. And I kind of think he's a jack of all trades. And it's rare that he's in something I'm not dying of laughter in. So, yeah, I'm going to go with Bowen. Bowen's like Mr. Charisma. He really is. I love the iceberg weekend update sketch that he did. That was a really great performance. It's like one of the most memorable things that I can think of that Bowen's done. He's just a very likable person, a lot of charisma. Bowen Yang, Ashley could see in the SNL Hall of Fame someday. That's awesome. All right, so also with us is my partner in crime on the Pop Culture 5 podcast. He also is co-host of the Bigger Than the Game podcast. He's just podcasting all over the place.Track 2:[5:07] He's everywhere. And he was my guest for Tracy Morgan. this season on the SNL Hall of Fame. So I'm welcoming Mr. Deremy Dove to the proceedings. Deremy, how are you? I'm good, man. Always a pleasure to talk SNL and SNL Hall of Fame with you guys. So I'm honored to be on. Yeah, you're one of our go-to guests for the SNL Hall of Fame. Your insights are always so great. So welcome. You've been on for Dick Ebersole. You were on for Adam McKay and this year for Tracy Morgan, which was an interesting one. I think we did Tracy Justice with kind of a more loose sort of format I think Tracy would have wanted it that way I agree I agree absolutely yeah that was fun so who on the current cast not including Keenan could you see in the SNL Hall of Fame uh like like Ashley said it was there's a few who I was going back and forth with but I I went with James Austin Johnson um as my pick I think he um.Track 2:[6:02] He really brings, I love the impressions he does, and he kind of fits that mold of like what I think of. I think of just like what you need to make a great SNL cast member. He has that design. I feel I get like some Daryl Hammond kind of feels from him. I just really love what James Austin Johnson can bring to the table. And I see him. I don't know if he's going to be like the big star, but he's that person when we have rankings in a few years. It's going to be like, we'll be surprised. We'll be like, oh, James Austin Johnson, he's a Hall of Famer. He's a top whatever cast member of all time. So he's who I pick as like that future Hall of Famer for the current cast. I could see that.Track 2:[6:44] He's not just, so he started obviously with his Trump and Biden impressions. And I think he got hired on the strength of that. But he's not just an impressionist. I think he's filling out a lot of important kind of glue guy types of roles. He's kind of branching out and not just being an impressionist. Right, right. Yeah, he plays the dad role really well, kind of the everyday. Because I could see maybe a little bit of Phil Hartman in him, too. Yeah, it's big. In that ways. I mean, Phil's personally one of my top three cast members of all time. So I don't think James is on that tier. But I think there's elements of Phil Hartman that I can see in James. Yeah, I think he's a glue, like you said, a glue guy. And I and I feel like especially those if you're listening to the show or you vote for the SNL Hall of Fame, you're probably a big fan. We all know how important the glue people are to an SNL cast. And I think he fits that role very well. Yeah. What do you think, Ashley? James Austin Johnson's trajectory?Track 2:[7:42] I had to laugh because that was actually who I went between. I was going between whether or not I wanted to vote for Bowen Yang or James Austin Johnson. So I am right there with you, Deremy. I agree. I think he's so versatile. You're right. He definitely evokes some of the greats in the past. He has that, Tom, you said charisma for Bowen. I think James Austin Johnson does too. He just has this swagger every time he's in a sketch. And yeah, he can play just a side character or the main character. Or he can do an impression yeah i was really close to voting for him but um ultimately went with bowen obviously but 1000 agree yeah good solid choices i think i could see in a few years we could be looking up and seeing heidi gardner having the hall of fame kind of resume she has talent she's a hall of fame talent i think she needs to get maybe a couple more seasons have some more good sketches she's very good on weekend update i think that's a lot of times where she's shines is coming on weekend update and doing kind of off the wall but sometimes relatable.Track 2:[8:46] Characters heidi so i can definitely see heidi forming a case uh dark horse it's for me and he's been awesome i think he's my mvp of season 49 is andrew just mugs honestly yeah he has and he has his own lane on the show too it's almost like a will forte ish kind of lane like andrew he has a more offbeat kind of sense of humor than a lot of the cast and i think he's all of my My favorite pieces from this current season 49 have been Andrew Dismuke's pieces, quite frankly. So I see maybe Andrew a little bit of a dark horse, but I wouldn't be surprised if he if he continues what he's doing this season. We could be possibly making a case for Andrew Dismuke. So those are a couple of people that I wanted to shout out.Track 2:[9:29] So how this SNL Hall of Fame voting is going to work every season. The voters have up to 15 votes that they can use. Voters can use one vote if they'd like. I don't know why they would, but maybe that's, you know, they're very hardcore and stringent and they only think one person deserves to be in the SNL Hall of Fame each season. Though from looking at the ballot, that would just mean like, I think you're an SNL Grinch or something and you might be shamed if you just come on here and say you're just using one vote. I don't know. So I'm curious, how many votes, Jeremy, are you leaning toward using today? I'm using all 15. All 15. All 15. I think there's some easy slam dunk people to put in, and there's a lot of people who I don't want to knock the SNL family, the SNL fan base, but I'm just like, why are these people still on the ballot? And this is a shame, and I'm going to stick up for it. I'm going to continue to do it. So I got all 15. Jeremy's going to be an advocate. Awesome. All 15, the opposite of a Grinch. Good job, my man. Yes, yes, yes. Ashley, how many votes are you using?Track 2:[10:39] I'm going to copy Deremy again. I'm using all 15. I found it difficult to keep it at 15, to be honest. And there was one that I realized wasn't on the list. And so I had to unfortunately kind of kick somebody off to make sure this person got on my ballot. But yeah, again, a lot of great, so much talent over the years. And I'm going to fight for them too. All right. So both Jeremy and Ashley are using 15. Coming in, I have 13 locks. So what I'm doing right now is I have 13 on my list that I feel are locks for me. But I have two that are open. So I think my goal here, one of my goals here on this roundtable is to be persuaded maybe as to how I'm going to use those final two votes. Votes so 13 i have locked in but you dare me you ashley you could persuade me you can make the case for maybe somebody that i don't have on my list and as to why they should be in the eston hall of fame so if there's anybody that's a grinch it seems like it's uh it might be me more so than ashley and dare me but it's strategic grinch it's it's i'm utilizing strategery on the round.Track 2:[11:52] Well done yes uh so then i'm gonna name the nominees and then we'll get to it just to refresh everybody's memory uh on who the nominees are uh this season on the snl hall of fame uh in the cast member category we have 13 cast members first time nominees rachel dratch will forte taryn killam kate mckinnon tracy morgan lorraine newman and adam sandler returning to the ballot We have Fred Armisen, Vanessa Baer, Ana Gasteyer, and Chris Parnell. And their final time on the ballot.Track 2:[12:32] Maya rudolph and molly shannon so that means if maya and molly don't get voted in in this cycle they're off the ballot so i know jeremy's shaking his head what a shame i can't believe it i know i know it's the will of the people i don't know what to say that's true that's true so for the host category there's 12 on the ballot first time nominees john ham and hathaway and martin short returning to the ballot but not for their final time candace bergen jim carrey buck henry scarlett johansson and paul rudd final time on the ballot for these folks melissa mccarthy john mulaney emma stone and justin timberlake we'll see if emma stone she's been on the ballot since snl hall of fame season one she just became a five-timer here in season 49 we'll see if that That helps bumper up as far as making the SNL Hall of Fame. So I'm curious about that. Musical guests. There's one first-time nominee. That's Pearl Jam. Great episode with Ryan McNeil. I love doing that Pearl Jam episode. Returning to the ballot, we have David Bowie, Dave Grohl, and Lady Gaga.Track 2:[13:43] On the ballot for the final time, Paul McCartney, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and Prince. So those are the musical guests, which is always a fascinating category to me, musical guests. And we'll probably get into that and your philosophies behind musical guests and the SNL Hall of Fame as well. Writers, there's eight writers on the ballot. First-time writers, John Mulaney. So yes, you heard him as a host. John Mulaney is also on the ballot as a writer. So when we did the draft, I believe it was Matt Ardill who said, let's, you know, John Mulaney is a great host. But he's also known for a writer. Let's put him on the ballot as a writer, too, and just kind of see what happens. So Mulaney's on the ballot for the first time as a writer, as is Julio Torres.Track 2:[14:28] Returning is Jack Handy, Adam McKay, Paul Lappel, Herb Sargent, and Rosie Schuster. Final time on the ballot for Frankenden Davis and Michael O'Donohue. So the writer's always interesting, again, to me. And one producer on the ballot, Dick Ebersole, which Jeremy and I did an episode on. I believe back in season three. Yes. Yeah. So Dick Ebersole on the ballot still here on the SNL Hall of Fame. So with that said, let's reveal those ballots, those votes. So I'm going to start with Deremy to kick things off. Who's the first person, Deremy, you want to talk about who you're voting for? Well, I just think you guys did a great episode on this person. And if there's the biggest lock or just slam dunk for the Hall of Fame, SNL Hall of Fame, it's this person. And let's just get her out the way because it's just so obvious. But Kate McKinnon, I think it's just, we're looking at somebody who.Track 2:[15:32] Is a top 10, maybe top five cast member of all time. And we're almost at 50 year history of the show. And someone, I heard you guys talk about just, just a prodigy and just from day one, you're just like, you know, and for me, I get nervous with that because I'm always like, oh, this person shows so much promise and you start thinking, can they be a great, but there's so many great names in SNL history. You don't want to put that pressure, but Kate McKinnon lived up to deliver and exceeded all these expectations. And when I think of SNL in the decade of the 2010s, she's the first name that comes to my mind. So I figured let's just the number one slam dunk on this list to me, Kate McKinnon. Yeah, the most recent cast member on the ballot. Season 47 was her final season, and she went through the waiting period for the SNL Hall of Fame on the ballot this year. I wonder if there's going to be some sort of recency bias maybe against Kate, because she's so recent, and maybe some people feel like they need to put others ahead of Kate in the Hall of Fame. I mean, that's the only reason that I could think of as to why somebody would not vote for her. Because I agree with you, Jeremy. I think she's a slam dunk. Definitely on my ballot. I assume, Ashley, you were my guest for Kate McKinnon. I assume Kate's on your ballot.Track 2:[16:56] I feel like I could call myself a Kate fan. And my entire podcast should have been thrown away if I didn't put Kate on my ballot. So, yeah, she was actually my number one. I think, Jeremy, you and I are on the same wavelength. We're twins. We're SNL twins.Track 2:[17:09] Yes. So, I was going to come out of the gate strong with Kate, too. And, yeah, like, I was worried about that, too, was, yeah, is she too, quote, unquote, young? Is she still too junior? We were kind of talking about, you know, are we putting people up with, you know, people like Phil Hartman and all these kind of big greats. But I think she is up there already. I think she has proved herself to be a name that will forever echo the halls of Saturday Night Live with the impact that she's had. Yeah, and I can't imagine, you know, don't sleep on her just because we think she's going to sit on this ballot for a little bit. Like, I think she's she deserved it for sure. Yeah, I definitely agree. And I know some people have a philosophy of deciding whether somebody's a first ballot or not. I've always been of the mind, even in sports halls of fame, that if somebody's a Hall of Famer, they're a Hall of Famer. And I don't think there should be tiers as far as first ballot Hall of Fame. And to me, if they're a Hall of Famer, they're a Hall of Famer. And I don't look at them as like, I don't separate the Hall of Fame into tiers like that. Some people do. I think Kate's, even if somebody does separate into tiers, I think Kate's a quote-unquote first ballot Hall of Famer, even if somebody is strict like that. To me, she's almost comfortably in the top 10 all-time cast members.Track 2:[18:28] For me and i hope i hope as the years go along that people really have an appreciation for what she did on the show i know there were a lot of maybe hardcore snl fans toward the end of her tenure who were like oh we need some new blood i'm kind of sick of kate and that's unfortunate because we didn't know how good we had it with kate honestly apparently some people didn't know because she's an all-timers all-timer so that's just kind of where i stand so jeremy i'm curious i don't know if we've talked about this do you separate halls of fame in general into like Like, if somebody's a first ballot, if somebody's not? No, I don't have, like, the tier list. Like, I don't do, like, oh, you're on tier one. But there are in SNL Hall of Fame or in Sports Hall of Fame, there are names that are, like, you can just say their name and there's, like, enough said. And, like, you know, you stand up and you sit down. And there's some Hall of Famers where you have to have a discussion more and, you know, talk about it and you might have some debate. And I understand there's, like, both. But once they're in, there's no separation. You're a Hall of Famer. But there's some where it's like, you know, in the NFL, if I say Tom Brady, and if someone goes, really, I'm not sure about him, I'd be like, what's wrong with you? And, you know, Kate McKinnon's like on that level.Track 2:[19:40] It's like if someone's like, I don't know. I'd be like, really? You don't know about Kate McKinnon? Like, it's going to be a long day. So it's like Kate McKinnon's just, you just got to say her name, and then you sit back down. Exactly. No, I'm with you. I'm going to suck up to Ashley here and say Kate McKinnon's like Tim Duncan. In the nba like tim duncan ashley's his first fans oh okay nice tim tim duncan is like you say tim duncan it's like oh he's like a top 10 all-time great nba player like for sure hall of fame like he's on that first tier of hall of famer so to me kate mckinnon's like a tim duncan yeah like it's just a no-brainer like that absolutely and ashley like did a raise the roof there so i'm on her good side i i think my love for saturday night live may be tied with my love for the san antonio spurs it's really close i'm quite a fan girl when it comes to both so yeah tom could not have picked a better reference for me exactly and i'm jealous you get to follow victor wimpy llama same year how many years she's so lucky with the spurs, I was really happy that draft day, for sure. Oh, I bet. So, Deremy, Kate McKinnon, all three of us have Kate McKinnon on our ballots. Ashley, I want to go to you. Who do you want to start with?Track 2:[20:56] The next person I had right after Kate McKinnon on my list that I want to put on my ballot is Maya Rudolph.Track 2:[21:03] Again, I think she's another name. You say her name and it's no question. Profession the the breadth and the depth of talent that she had while on that show i i think was unmatched and i don't think there's been anyone like maya since on the show that's been able to kind of hold the candle to what she was able to do um i mean vocally she could do any of the you know finger impressions and and give us either you know song parodies um but she could also just really own and commit to being silly and ridiculous um but comes to mind is the sketch that she did with kristin wig where they're the prize girls on the on the game show and kate's you know driving around in the golf cart and they're just acting ridiculous and there's a lot of breaking and again i'm sure lauren wasn't too pleased with it but you could get these really serious impressions like beyonce out of maya but then also these just ridiculous ditzy dumb you you know, physical comedy, throw yourself type of sketches from her. And I think she's definitely, you know, she belongs in this hall of fame. Yeah. Well said. I think we've talked a little bit about Maya. Jeremy, is this the, one of the ones you've been upset about over the last few seasons? Yes, Ashley. I don't know what it is. We're on the same page. I'm going to say this. I think Maya Rudolph is the most.Track 2:[22:26] Under appreciated underrated cast member in the history of snl and i think it's crazy i to me i think she's top 10 but at most i'll give someone top 15 like cast member of all time um i think and maybe that's like a people have that sexist view could we say glue guy so we think of just like phil hartman dan akroyd no to me it's a glue person because my rudolph I think maybe the only glue person I think of more than her is a Phil Hartman, in my opinion. I just think, like what Ashley said, the versatility, what she was able to do, how unique she was, where before or since there's not a talent that Saturday Night Live has seen like her. And I think it's a travesty that she's been on this ballot for so long. So absolutely Maya Rudolph. off.Track 2:[23:17] Jeremy, you could partly blame me for some of that because I have been one of those people that's a little on the fence about Maya. And I know that's one of the things that you and I probably disagree about the most. Absolutely. As far as us in the Hall of Fame. And Ashley wants to throw a tomato at me right now, I think. And I love Maya. I love Maya.Track 2:[23:37] I'll watch anything that she pops up. If she's on a podcast, she was just on Dax Shepard's podcast. And I made sure that moved up in the queue. you like i wanted to listen to maya on dax's podcast like i absolutely love maya and i landed on why i was on the fence about it in the beginning and i talked this over we did actually a relitigation episode with rebecca north she came on and advocated for maya and i think for me i think maya was in the wrong era i think the the type of humor that was around when maya was on the cast probably in the early 2000s. I don't think it really fit the skill set that she had. I think she was honestly better than a lot of the material that was on the show around that time. I think if she was on the show early 90s, or even if she got to be more part of the cast in the other Golden Era from about 2007, I know she overlapped a little bit, but I would have liked to see her move on into like 2012 and you know i think she left the cast a little too soon before it really gelled and blossomed so i just think a lot of the material a lot of this the humor in the early 2000s.Track 2:[24:49] I always felt like it was a little edgelordy it was just weird all around like we were in a weird time in the country and just in comedy in general and i think the humor was just kind of off in the early 2000s and i didn't and i think that that didn't cater to to what made maya truly great I always love watching her on screen, but there was always something missing, but I think I landed on that it wasn't her fault. Really?Track 2:[25:15] You know, what gets me is like a lot and not this isn't at you, Thomas, but a lot of people look at the ladies of that era with Maya as like really breaking through the boys club of Saturday Night Live. And Maya was a big part of that.Track 2:[25:28] And the other women to me get talked about so much more than her when I think she was the best of those ladies who broke through, which is always kind of weird and conflicting for me where it's like there was great women on SNL before. But you know they had to fight that boys club and then it's like that's the era where it's like oh like the ladies broke through but then they leave maybe like one of the biggest pieces or the biggest piece off that list when we're talking about we give amy polar love and everybody like we don't give maya rudolph so it always kind of confuses me yeah i can agree with that what do you think about that ashley oh gosh yeah i can't imagine anybody being on the fence about maya rudolph um i think you saw my jaw hit the floor um because yeah it was oh yeah we talked you know jeremy.Track 2:[26:13] You talked about the glue person i think she could have been in every sketch and she held it together she always brought something to it even if she wasn't the star of that sketch or wasn't bringing her main like impressions um to it and again i know on my kate podcast i talked about you know to me when i think of somebody in the hall of fame for saturday night live is you know does their talent take them beyond the show and again look at her i mean she's still making amazing stuff and i i do i see where you're coming from tom a little bit when you're talking about um you know it not being her fault i can see that i think had she stayed and gotten to do a little bit more with like tina fey and annie puller she was like kind of in this weird she She wasn't on too long before they left.Track 2:[26:59] But then kind of also left herself not long after like Kristen wig and stuff was there, you know, only overlapped a little bit with those. I think she was kind of a little bit in between where it really would have catapulted her to a little bit more star power. Had she had a little bit, you know, better chemistry to meld with, but I loved her every second she was on the show. I loved every sketch that she was in. Um, huge fan of her impressions, of course, who I thought she was really good at it.Track 2:[27:32] Yeah, I'm trying to like, I'm a lawyer in my day job and I'm totally failing right now because I'm like, how do I advocate and convince Tom to put Maya on this ballot? Well, I will say that she's one of my locks. So Maya's on my ballot as a lock. So and I think I think she's going to get in this time around. But I had to have a sort of epiphany as to why I didn't 100 percent connect with Maya like everybody else. And it was like a goodwill hunting thing. I had to look at Maya and say, it's not your fault. And then she's in the SNL Hall of Fame as far as I'm concerned. So I'm writing my previous wrong and putting her as a lock on my ballot. And I think it's going to happen for her. I think she's going to get in this time around. That's just my gut feeling. I hope so. Yeah, I think you'll be fine. I will withdraw my objection. I apologize, Tyler. I've apologized. I've done all of, I think, the right thing here and admitted my error. And arrived at a proper conclusion, I think. So Maya Rudolph is on all three of our ballots here on the SNL Hall of Fame. I'm curious. I'll stick with you, Ashley. I'm curious as to who you want to talk about next. So this is a name that I am shocked is still on the ballot.Track 2:[28:51] That she hasn't been voted into the Hall of Fame yet. I got to go with Molly Shannon. Yeah, I think I talked a little bit on on my episode about, you know, what really made me fall in love with Saturday Night Live. And again, I think, you know, there's a few other names from her era that are on my ballot, too, that I won't bring up yet. But again.Track 2:[29:12] I mean, Mary Catherine Gallagher, just how can you not put Mary Catherine Gallagher in the Hall of Fame? She's a superstar. It's literally on her name. Well said. Yeah, she's on my ballot. So Molly Shannon is one of those. And similar to Maya Rudolph, this is her last year on the ballot. So if she doesn't get in, she's just off the ballot.Track 2:[29:33] So I have her as a lock. So that's one of my other locks. Um daramie uh molly shannon uh what are you what's your feeling on molly oh absolutely a lock um and and i agree with you guys i agree with ashley like she should have she should have been in i'm always going to give love for those cast members and writers who bridge a gap at a really tough time in snl history when i know like we all know the stuff like every year saturday night dead and blah blah blah and it's like okay but there's certain points in the show's history where it was really at a shaky point and on the rocks and she came midway through that awful 94 95 season and stayed on one of the few people who stayed on and really helped bring in a new transition with that fall of 95 96 cast and just the different characters the way she just jumped into the bazaar and didn't hold back and could you know have mary katherine gallagher but just really brought such a weird uncomfortable character to the mainstream and she was able to do that time and time again on this show uh definitely a hall of famer for.Track 2:[30:44] Yeah that's both of you said everything i think especially like she i think mary catherine gallagher on the snn they did a character count and i think mary catherine gallagher finished top five i want to say and that that's that's molly shannon's work her physicality is something.Track 2:[31:01] That i think everybody will always mention probably to her detriment like you watch some of those sketches back and she probably will admit like yeah she could have heard like she probably shouldn't have done that necessarily like i bet the producers on the show and writers and stuff like what are you doing like you don't have to like totally throw yourself through this table or wall or so i think she did a little damage to her body but she sacrificed herself for the good of the show and for our entertainment and she's just so wonderful and she has a really great memoir called hello molly uh i don't know if you have ever if you have a chance to read it i don't you need to pick that up Ashley if you haven't it's so good it's in my it's in my to read list right now for sure I admit I got a little bit sidetracked by some other kind of book talk recommendations that I very cliche got into but it is downloaded it is in my queue I've been dying to read it and yeah yeah you were talking about her physicality and I think what I loved about her too is we haven't seen a female comedian do physical comedy to the extreme like chris farley did you know when i think of extreme physical physical comedy to their actual physical real detriment you know obviously um you know chris farley would chug you know i don't even know how much like caffeine or espressos to get into that you know really hyper mindset in addition to you.Track 2:[32:31] Know, throwing himself through walls and tables.Track 2:[32:34] I loved that a female comedian would do that. And it was, I can be just as funny as the men who do this. And it's not improper. It's not inappropriate.Track 2:[32:43] She nailed it. I think it worked for her. And you're right. She did have so many quirky characters that I feel like other comedians who came after her tried to do, you know, they tried to bring that kind of weird and unique humor, but it didn't really land, or at least I didn't really get it. First person that comes to mind is Kyle Mooney. I apologize to Kyle Mooney fans, but he was just somebody that I couldn't really understand.Track 2:[33:11] I applauded his attempt and because, you know, comedy is so subjective and there's something out there for everybody. But I think Molly was that weird kind of quirky as a weird, quirky girl, awkward, you know, growing up, I was like, Oh, I feel seen like people can laugh with her and not at her. And that was really, really awesome to see. Do we have a Kristen Wiig or Kate McKinnon without Molly Shannon? Yeah, she's a trailblazer. Yeah, exactly.Track 2:[33:42] And I'm looking at Molly's trajectory as far as voting, and she started off at 34% after season one, and she's climbed to 47, 54, and then 57 last time around. So she just needs that last kind of push to get into the Hall of Fame. And with Maya, she started off at 47, and then she's been at 57, 58, and 58 the last few times. So I think both Molly and Maya both hovering around like the 57 to 58 percent of the vote mark. This is their last time. I think Molly's going to get into that's my gut feeling as well. I think the fact that I think voters will look at it and say that Molly and both Molly and Maya deserve it. And they've been on the cusp. They've been so close. And again, I blame myself for Maya. I've voted for Molly in the past. So I'm off the hook as far as Molly goes. But I would love to see both of them get into the SNL Hall of Fame. So we've had agreements on Kate McKinnon, Maya Rudolph, and Molly Shannon, three great cast members. Jeremy, I'm wondering who you have as far as non-cast members.Track 2:[34:53] Yeah, that's actually where I was going to go next because I'm like, you know what, let's just get weird on this roundtable. Let's get weird. Let's get weird. and I'm gonna go with this person and I'll be honest Thomas and, you know have listened to snl hall of fame since season one and usually when i'm listening the the conversation's great and you kind of lean me either way i'm thinking either where i'm like yeah they're hall of famer they're already just you're proving that or i don't think so and you're kind of going that way never have i been more conflicted listening than to the michael o'donohue episode where you had brad and gary on and i'm driving around and i'm going yeah and then right away. Then the next, someone makes a point and I go, no, he's not a hall of famer. Then I'm like, but yeah, he is. And I was just back and forth, like, and I'm like, I really don't know.Track 2:[35:40] And so I thought about it a lot, but I I'm going to vote them in. Okay. And I can understand if people don't, but I'm going to go there because of when the show started and, you know, because we've been making sports references, I'm going to keep that train going. You know, the dynasty docu-series just happened with the Patriots. And of course when you look at the Patriots dynasty there's a lot of players coaches, administrators who are a part of it but the big three like headed leadership Robert Kraft Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. When you look at the first year SNL the three headed leadership it was Lorne Chevy Chase and Michael O'Donohue and Michael really did if you listen to a lot of people that original those first five years You know, Saturday Night Live brought an edge. It was cool. It was hip. It was something that TV in the 70s hadn't seen yet. And who really helped to bring that sensibility was Michael O'Donoghue. And he's also done things, especially in the early 80s, that really could hurt the show. So I understand the negative, but I feel like his positives do outweigh the negatives, which is why I kind of went with he should be voted on. And he was a part of that original crew and I feel like everyone who was a part of the first season in my opinion should Be in the Hall of Fame just because you were a part of the foundation and you started this.Track 2:[37:05] Huge franchise that will stay in pop culture forever, no matter how long the show is on or when it goes off. So I vote for Michael O'Donohue. It's interesting that you bring up O'Donohue because I've, I put him on and then took him off. Like I alternated just so many over the last few days. I was like, nah, I don't know Don Hugh. And then I thought, and then I would think about what Brad and Gary said. I'm like, well, those are good points. I'll put them on. And then I took him off again. As of right now, Now he's not one of my 13 locks and he was one of the ones where I could be persuaded for him to end up on my final ballot. He went actually, I think Brad and Gary did a really great job of advocating for Michael O'Donohue because he went from 11% of the vote after season three to barely, like barely staying on the ballot. He got 35% last year. So that was quite the jump for Michael O'Donohue. I have, I don't know. It's just some, I don't know if it's just his, his persona or something like the, the, the edgy bordering on mean material that he possibly wrote that sometimes rubs me the wrong way. But, but I, I, I definitely grant like how important he was, uh, to the show. Uh, Ashley, it was Michael O'Donoghue, somebody that you've been maybe considering, uh.Track 2:[38:20] He is not on my ballot actually. And yeah, it was one of those things where I totally agree with you, Jeremy. He, I mean, he was part of that first season and I, I do agree with your statement that anyone from that first season because of what they created and what we have now is because of them. Um, but again, I wasn't a huge fan of, of his, some of his sketches were, I don't know, maybe it's just cause they didn't age well looking back at them. Um, but I do have a few writers on my ballot for sure. Um, and he just didn't land in one of my top favorites. Um, so. Yeah. He, uh, looking at his sketches, like, so this will be have like the, the good and the bad of it. Like he wrote Godfather therapy with, uh, Belushi Belushi, which was awesome. He wrote the last voyage of the starship enterprise, which I think is one of the better sketches of those early five seasons. Absolutely. Both of those. Yeah. Yeah, those are great. Norman Bates' School of Motel Management was awesome.Track 2:[39:18] I even liked the, he had a weird concept of the attack of the atomic lobsters that was like, I think O'Donohue's sense of humor kind of reigned in a little bit. Then like you have things like the Needle, the Needles Impressionist, where he just said like, here's my impression of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir with needles stuck in their eyes. And he would just like yell he would like mind putting needles in his eyes and just yell so it's just kind of interesting uh but again Jeremy he's not like totally off my ballot it's just something that I have to like keep thinking about well don't get me wrong like I so personally I agree with you guys like there's a lot of things that I'm like uh it doesn't I mean there's some sketches he wrote that hits me it's a lot that don't but I have to take myself out of it and look back on what, for our parents' generation, what TV was like in 1975.Track 2:[40:14] And we look at it like, we look at the late 60s into the 70s, music and movies were ahead of the game, where they reflected what society was doing. TV was dead last. And I think about what really changed TV. I think of, number one, like Norman Lear and his sitcoms, and then, number two, like when Saturday Night Live premiered. So like him doing like the needles in the eye, like it's not, I don't laugh at it, but like at that point, TV was so far behind. That was just bizarre to see on television where you're used to seeing, you know.Track 2:[40:47] Green Acres and Mr. Ed, you know, not that long before. And that was like, that's what you got. And then even like in late night, it was Johnny Carson.Track 2:[40:55] So then it's like, you're getting this and just this sensibility. That's just, whoa, like the counterculture is taking over NBC for an hour and a half on Saturday nights. Like it was very different for that generation, which is why I had to take myself and my personal taste out of it and look like that was different for that time. Totally no i agree i mean that's that's why he's still kind of like i might be persuaded honestly he might end up on my list of 15 i'm trying i'm trying i know yeah you're very persuasive you do that on our other pod too on pop culture five you always kind of like get me on your side yeah so and michael donahue was the first person to appear on camera on snl like just a little like historical fun fact the first person that we see on snl it was michael o'donohue and that wolverine sketch so but Jeremy has Michael O'Donohue Ashley's probably a no I'm a maybe at this point Ashley you said that you had a writer or a couple writers I'm curious if you want to reveal one of those yeah so I have four writers actually um and I I gotta go with my girl Paula Pell brilliant just absolute brilliance like she is my comedy um I if I saw her on the street I might might die just like i would next to kate and tina fey but i think because we got paula pell like in the era of tina fey to such strong writers at the same time we got such great stuff out of them.Track 2:[42:25] Um and again i keep repeating myself but what they've been able to do beyond the show as well, you know like conan o'brien when he was on and what he's been able to do afterwards because he had such talent i think paul is the same way and she kind of stays in the you know she doesn't really take that limelight that I feel like she deserves she's kind of I think happy to be a writer and not necessarily take those starring roles but when she does you know come in and do even just like a supporting actress I sign me up I'm gonna see it every single day any chance I get to see Paula Pell and again I think what she was able to do with around that time with Tina was pushing again we talked about Jeremy you said um breaking the boys club not just for the the comedians we saw on TV, but I think that's what Paula and Tina were doing in the writers room was they were trying to break up that boys club, and again say women are funny too and we can be silly and ridiculous and I think even bringing in the.Track 2:[43:21] You know, the topical humor of calling stuff out and making it funny, though, like bringing up issues in a way that made everybody laugh instead of making them uncomfortable. So we could talk about it and kind of understand it and see it. And I think she was such a trailblazer for it. Yeah, she was one of the minds behind some of the great recurring sketches of that era. She was she was behind the cheerleaders and other just really big recurring sketches like that. She was like you could you definitely felt her voice in that era. And it meshed well with, like you said, Will Ferrell, Sherry O'Terry, and all of those. And she has Girls 5, Ebba. That's kind of like the thing that she's involved with right now. Paula Pell. Deremy, I'm curious before I kind of – because I have a little situation here with Paula Pell and another writer that I might want to hash out. But, Deremy, I want to get your thoughts on Paula Pell. Oh, she's on my list. That's a slam dunk.Track 2:[44:17] Should have been in for a writer. She's the first ballot. Hall of Famer in my opinion um I talked about you know with Molly Shannon those who helped really re like revigorate and save the show in like the fall of 95 we talk about the people on screen you always give credit to those behind the camera and like the writers Paula Pell's one of those people and you mentioned I mean from like the cheerleaders to Debbie Downer to Justin Timberlake in the omelette ville like so that's like over different years she's doing these memorable characters and like writing these great sketches um and just someone you know that lauren trusted you know like i think ashley great point like how huge was it for when tina fey became the first female head writer that having a paula pell there like i'm sure that was like a big help and i just think she's getting this just due now because like in the public eyes because of girls five ever but like.Track 2:[45:16] Maybe it's by design. I know she was behind the scenes, but to me, she's one of those writers who should have always been talked about up there with a Smigel, a Jack Handy, all those people. She's that great. She's a slam dunk for me. me yeah it seems like if you ask somebody who worked at snl around that time they would tell you that paula pell was probably the funniest person yeah in the building so that's kind of the that's the reputation that she had uh and by the way if you listen to wtf with mark maron paula pell was a recent guest yes on and she was great she's hilarious she's so likable love paula pell that was a really great interview she did with mark maron um paul is not a lock on my list and she's honestly one like that I'm not discounting and I wanted to hash it out because I don't know I have another writer that might be a little I'm gonna take controversial but a lot of people might tell me might urge me to put Paula Pell in ahead of him for many reasons I want to hash out as to whether I should swap out Paula Pell for this person or if I should add Paula Pell to my list and keep this person so i want to kind of dive into i have julio torres.Track 2:[46:25] On on my list and i and i didn't think that i didn't think that was i was gonna feel that way heading into the season but then i started looking at the sketches that he wrote and his unique voice and i know the one limiting factor is he was only on the show for he was only a writer on the show for like three seasons but some of the stuff that julio did i mean he he was behind uh papyrus which we saw a second installment papyrus 2 now the actress with emma stone he uh he also wrote wells for boys which was another wonderful emma stone pre-tape he wrote a lot of really great political things he had the melania moments his so you julio had just like such a clever unique voice at that time of the show i think he really stood out he had a really great one with With Lin-Manuel Miranda.Track 2:[47:18] Where Lin-Manuel Miranda played a character. That was like. He was in Montana or North Dakota or something. And he called his mom. Because he was an immigrant that called his mom. And was describing like how his life was. So like. Julio Torres' voice was just so unique. And to me he was almost like a comet. That came through SNL. And he made the show so great. But he just wasn't there. For a long time. Where somebody like Paula Pell was. Was and so i want i was wondering about like the merits of of julio torres in that should i i don't know ashley like should i move another rider a more of a legacy rider in front of him or like what do you what do you think about julio's contributions and then even like compared to somebody like paul appell.Track 2:[48:06] Yeah, I mean, and not to discount Julio Torres. Yeah, I loved his sketches. I thought they were hilarious. And I don't want to say that somebody doesn't deserve to be on a ballot just because they weren't on Saturday Night Live for I don't think there's a requisite amount of time. I think we could, you know, vote somebody in who was in for one season. Obviously, we've got some hosts on the ballot that aren't necessarily in the five timers club and things like that. But I think to me, the difference between if we're going to put Julio and Paula together is not just not that Paula was legacy because she was on for so long, but because of what her sketches did to, you know, move the show. Like Jeremy said, you know, taking it out of an era like she came in, I think, right at the right time to kind of rescue a drowning show and then continue to evolve it and stay relevant and kind of help us, you know, continue to keep SNL moving with the times.Track 2:[49:01] Whereas you know i mean i get papyrus and they just did you know part two a couple weeks ago is just genius um i think it should be nominated for like an emmy for a short or something but um yeah given the two i really think paula um i mean is julio again i hate i hate to do this but this isn't his last year on the ballot correct no and you're right no this is his first year actually so i mean that that plays a role yeah that plays a role too in the thought process i think yeah yeah so i i think you got to go with paula i really do i think and again julio he's also someone who continues to write um and doing great things for other shows you know that we still watch today and so definitely not to discount his humor what what he did um his sketches.Track 2:[49:50] But i'm biased i'm like i said i would fangirl over paula pell in the street so So yeah, you know where I stand. Yeah, I think Jeremy, the thing about Julio to me was like his batting average, putting in sports terms, like his batting average was just so high that it was hard for me to discount. He did so much in such a little time, like almost everything that he did was a hit for me. And to me, that plays a big role. Like, is it quantity or even if he was only on the show for three seasons, but his batting average is super high? Like, how do you weigh stuff like that? No, it's hard. I feel like you could have both on there, and I think that would solve it, but if you have to choose.Track 2:[50:31] Between one or the other, I would put Paula just because.Track 2:[50:35] A little bit of the longevity and what she did over different eras. So her batting average was, you know, it, you know, if you have someone who hit three 50 for three seasons and someone who hit three 25 for, you know, 15 seasons, like it's like, you know, I'm gonna go with that three 25 for 15 over three 50 for the three. So it's like, I have to weigh it like that. I'm probably gonna, you gotta, it's hard because like my, The guy who I look at is either, I go back and forth between first or second greatest cast members, Eddie Murphy. And he wasn't on very long, but what he did was amazing. So I hear you. It's tough. And I think with Julio bringing that different sensibility to a show and really bringing that diversity in a different mind, that's a great factor for him. But Paula did that too. Yeah. So it's like, it's, it's just hard. Like if you have to pick one or the other, I would go with Paula, but it's a tough choice. Yeah. So I think all of that weighs into my thought process. I think, I think.Track 2:[51:40] I think it either come down for me to Julio or Paula, or you're right. I could, I could just put both of them on. I might have room to do that. It's all, I mean, nothing's set in stone right now. I just wanted to hash that out. Cause I think it's interesting. And Julio actually has a better case than I thought even like on the surface, you're like, okay, Julio Torres, like, you know, memorable, talented rider. But then you start looking at his work and it was like, oh my gosh, he might actually have a real case here. Like more so than I thought. So, uh, so I just wanted to hash that out. And I thought that was the perfect time to do it. But Paula Pell is one of the other ones where I was like, man, I love Paula Pell. And I was just considering that. So, yeah, thanks for – see, here, we're all learning something. And we're all kind of like – or at least I'm like kind of getting my thought process in order and maybe swayed a certain way. So, yeah, Deremy, I wonder what is next on your list.Track 2:[52:29] Another crime I'm trying to justify or undo on the SNL Hall of Fame. You came with anger, everybody. Deremy's just like – I'm just like, jeez. here we go i brought this per i think i was on the season three round table before and i nominated this person then and they're still on here but we're talking about you know because ashley you just brought up like host and we're talking about the og five-timer guy he was on 10 times in the first five years he was the person who suggested doing recurring sketches like to that to the original like cast like hey you should do that samurai thing again john like come on i mean it's classic when they did the samurai and belushi like by accident cuts him on the forehead and they're all wearing like the bandage you got to have buck henry on here the og the five timers club is such a known thing in the snl like pantheon and how do we not have the og of the five timers club in the snl hall of fame he should be a first ballot guy because he's one of those people.Track 2:[53:37] I think of him and Steve Martin, where people to this day get confused and say they were part of the original cast. Because that's how much they are a staple of that show. And so I'm just like, outside of maybe Steve Martin, to me there's no more important host than Buck Henry. So it's like, how is he not in the Hall of Fame yet? I don't know. I don't get it. But I'm going to do it again.Track 2:[54:04] Nominate and bring up buck henry for the snl hall of fame let's hopefully we get it right this time people yeah he's on he's a lock on my list too and and i voted for him in the past i think he's just so important to the show he's a 10 timer yeah but it's not just the quantity of like he he was solid like you watch every single one of his hosting gigs there's a reason why they asked him twice a year to come back and he always hosted the finale and it was just like i think the cast and the crew and the producers it was just like they knew they were in good hands with buck henry and they could throw stuff at him and he would he would be great in it he could he could lead a sketch he can just find like a role to kind of hang back and just be a supporting player i think buck just in synonymous with the show i mean he wrote the graduate uh and he was a great writer but people know him for snl like i think that's just as far as on screen especially like he they know him as like the guy who used to host SNL a bunch. And I think, yeah, I think Buck Henry needs to get in. So he's for sure on my list. I don't know how you feel about Buck Henry, Ashley, if we have to like persuade you or where do you stand on this?Track 2:[55:15] I don't, it wasn't a matter of not being persuaded that he deserved to be on it. I think just because I, like I said, at the beginning of this, I had such a hard time whittling my list down to my 15 votes. And that I, you know, have a little bit, you know, my bias is going to show through with my votes of, you know, kind of the more...Track 2:[55:37] Relatively recent um you know people i only have three hosts on my list actually, because again i had such a really hard time with it so i i had to give that spot to somebody else and i think it was kind of me selfishly hoping that somebody else like like you guys would push him through because i agree he believes or excuse me i agree that he deserves to be in the hall of fame um i'm not against it i don't think you have to convince me that he deserves it but you may have to convince me to take somebody else off my list if i'm going to put him on mine so a lot of it's like an era maybe kind of thing like uh buck henry's a more old timer maybe and so so so we're looking at like an era that more so like resonated with you possibly i will say this buck henry was on the ballot for the first time after season three so this is not his final year he's been.Track 2:[56:32] On twice before he went from 23 after season three to 48 so he made quite the jump so i think uh this being his third time on the ballot i wouldn't be surprised uh i would be a little surprised if he got in but i but i think he's gonna be one of those where it's like he's inching toward there so you have another couple seasons after this ashley to to write this wrong that might be made so yeah so this isn't totally the last chance for buck henry and i think that was the thing is you know there's so many greats from that original era that are in the hall of fame already that it was kind of a shock that he isn't on that list um because i mean like how do we get anywhere with it we are today without jane curtain gilda radner you know these ogs um that again like derry said started the show um they made us know what it is and yeah you're right.Track 2:[57:26] Literally you know wrote one of the greatest films of all time you know and then we're like oh no but his his work on snl don't worry about um you know the graduate um thing about snl so you're right i think next year i'll have an updated ballot okay okay so so we'll check back in next year i think if buck henry was more famous just in general in pop culture he would probably get in but he's He's just like a writer, a movie writer. So he just kind of like is under the radar. But I think if he was a little more famous, like Steve Martin or something like that, then I think Buck Henry would be in. So we'll see. I'm curious to see where Buck Henry lands this year. What host do you have, Ashley? So I actually, yeah, kind of going like a little bit more to an older era, I put Martin Short instead of Buck Henry as my vote for one of my hosts. Because, again, he's somebody else that I find synonymous with SNL.Track 2:[58:26] And, again, just that silly, quirky... You know, doesn't apologize for how he is or who he is or his comedy or anything. And even to this day, I mean, we saw him, you know, a couple of weeks ago with, with Kristen Wiggs episode and just still making, he made Lauren break. I mean, come on, like how, how epic is that when you make Lauren Michaels laugh at a sketch? I think that shows how great and how funny he actually is. Every time he's on, I get so happy.Track 2:[58:56] I think because of what he's been able to do, the fact that, yeah, he keeps coming back. As well we keep inviting him back no matter what um i mean they brought him back for kristen wig they brought him back for uh steve martin he's just somebody again it wasn't just a glue person but could you know steal the scene and steal the sketch no matter what he was in yeah just always a wildly entertaining person to watch martin short and he he hosted two all-time classic christmas episodes he has two of the better monologues i've ever seen i'm still teetering though i'm kind of on the fence he's not a lock for me but he's one of those where i just like kind of wanted to wait and see what other people said and i'll do some more thinking on so i didn't totally discount martin short he's in that michael o'donoghue paul appell range where i'm just like i don't know not not a lock for me but i want to see somebody make the case uh jeremy where do you stand on martin short he's a new on my list i don't i don't have him on mine um i think there There is no, in my lifetime, there's no more guaranteed lock to make a person laugh. If I have to pick someone in the world to save my life, like, I dare me, you can only survive if you pick someone to make me laugh.Track 2:[1:00:10] I'm Martin Shorts, like, he's on my Mount Rushmore, probably like number one. Like, he's just that naturally funny. Like, he's like the ultimate talk show person. and it makes sense he's the ultimate person to kind of fill in on SNL and to be there and to come on but I just don't I know he was on for the cast for that season that transition that Steinbrenner year I just still don't.Track 2:[1:00:34] When I think of Martin Short, I don't think of SNL with him. I know that's a part of his history, but I'm going to go to movies. I'm going to go to his talk show appearances. I'm going to go to other things. I'm not his, you know, not his relationship with Steve Martin. I'm not going to go to SNL. And I think that's why. But I still do believe like he's hilarious and he's funny. And I'm always glad when I see him there. But I don't think of him like, oh, as a host or as even a cast member. Like yeah he's one of those you know for our podcast essential people so that's why i don't have him on my list but i could be persuaded to like for sure but he's off mine he had more of a case after i after i re-watched some of his at least a couple of his episodes he had he had the episode there was one in the late 90s that was classic though his episode in 2012 when paul mccartney was the musical guest that's like a stone cold classic episode to me as well and his His monologues there were great. So when I watched specifically even those two episodes, I'm like, all right, yeah.Track 2:[1:01:35] I mean, he put in two amazing performances here. One thing that's interesting about him, too, is he has another, you know, in the 80s, he hosted with Chevy Chase and Steve Martin. And then he also co-hosted with Steve Martin. So some of his hosting gigs have been with other people as well where Martin wasn't totally featured. So I could see both sides. That's why I am kind of like he's still up in the air for me. But anything to add on that, Ashley?Track 2:[1:02:05] I think I'm going to steal your Maya Rudolph explanation. And I think Martin Short was, I think, the victim of being a cast member on a time where maybe his type of comedy or whatever the reason didn't mesh with everything else going on. And you're right, he wasn't on very long and he ended up doing much bigger things, after Saturday Night Live. But I think...Track 2:[1:02:29] The reason Lorne kept bringing him back was because he understood that maybe, the time that he was a cast member, maybe not have been the best time to have him shine, but recognizing his talent, his comedy, what he's able to do.Track 2:[1:02:45] And I think that's why I would vote for him as a host, as opposed to a cast member is you're right. Every time he came back to host, whether it was by himself or, or with, you know, the three amigos, I just, Just, it makes me wish that he would have been on. And sometimes it makes me forget that he wasn't on longer than he was.Track 2:[1:03:05] Because my brain has clicked and associated him so much with Saturday Night Live. And I think, too, just his association with all the other greats on SNL, I think, helped bring him along a little bit to that star power. But I think even without them, he can stand on his own. So and i should say too like uh for snl hall of fame purposes and how how it was set up a few years ago um we there are the categories technically so martin short isn't eligible as a cast member because he was only on for the one season that's why he's on host but it's up to each individual uh voter and it's just to what their criteria is so if they want to count his cat time as a cast member that's up to the voter uh technically it's just kind of his host hosting gigs that we're looking at, but that's interesting as far as... This is why we do these things, is kind of peek into the criteria of a certain individual. Like Jeremy brought up, Martin Short made his mark elsewhere other than SNL. And so there's all sorts of different factors, but I can definitely see Martin Short. I'm curious. This is his first year on the ballot, so I'm curious to see how voters feel about him. So this will definitely be interesting. Jeremy, I want to go back to you for your next pick. I'm gonna go back to
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This week on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast we're joined by the delightful Victoria Franco to discuss the bona fidas of writer John Mulaney. Transcrlpt: [0:41] Oh my goodness gracious me, oh my, it is my privilege to be joining you onceagain this week in the SNL Hall of Fame.The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair where each episode we take adeep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest,or writer, and add them to the ballot for your consideration.Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener,to vote for the the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrinedfor perpetuity in the hall.And that's how we play the game.It's just that easy. But before we get to voting, we need to discuss our nominee.And before we discuss our nominee, we need to speak with our friend Matt Ardillin his minutiae minute corner.What do you say we wander over there and see what old Matty is up to?Track 3[1:39] Hey, JD, how are you doing? I am parched, and I just had an enjoyable sip ofwater, which has cleaned up the old pipes.Yeah, nature soda, I've heard it called. Nature soda, I like it.Yeah. I heard somebody say they won't drink water because fish have sex in it.I i think that's a fair you know i i canunderstand that but um you know run it through enoughpurifiers it should be fine i mean i'm ai'm a water fiend i drink like four liters a day oh it's yeah it's good forthe body that's right that's why i'm so uh uh easy on the eyes yeah you areyou are ripped are ripped right speaking of ripped this week we've got john,Yeah, back again.Um, so I did make the effort of finding new trivia, so it should be a long timelistener listeners. It should be interesting.Track 3[2:45] Um, uh, height six foot, uh, one of the taller, uh, uh, contestants for, or nominees actually.Yeah. Yeah. Born August 26th, 1982. Yeah.He has 28 writing credits, 42 actor credits, 13 producer credits.I have to say, when I saw him in The Bear, it blew me away. It was really intense.Did not expect that. So he's got a lot of good acting chops.He's released five stand-up specials and his Sack Lunch Bunch Kids special.Grew up in Chicago, child of a law professor, mother Ellen, and attorney fatherCharles Charles Chip W. Mulaney.Never mess with a chip. Anybody who's got Chip as a nickname, that's trouble.Track 3[3:35] But he's descended from a lot of political go-getters.He's descended from the mayor of Salem and has congressmen on both sides of his family.Track 3[3:49] So, yeah, he's got a good pedigree.His maternal grandmother, Carolyn Stanton, and Seth Meyers' mother,Hillary Meyers, performed together at a hospital benefit show called Pills aPoppin'. That's some foreshadowing.And it was directed by Tommy Toon when they were 19 years old.So there is some deep family connections going on there.Yeah. So he attended Georgetown University, and as most people know,with Nick. role where he studied English literature.He decided he wanted to go to show into show business at the age of five afterwatching a lifestyle program, uh, about Ricky Ricardo, uh, which is the mostJohn Mulaney thing I have ever read.Um, like if anybody's going to set their life goals by watching Ricky Ricardo,that would be John Mulaney.Yeah. From that point, he started doing sketches for friends and family whenever given a chance and,And he was pushed, actually, by his high school teacher to pursue his love of comedy.He actually almost had the role, well, he almost auditioned for the role ofKevin McAllister in Home Alone, but his parents wouldn't let him.Track 3[5:07] That is wild. Yeah, that would have been a very interesting and different Home Alone movie.Track 3[5:14] I can only imagine what 10-year-old John Mulaney would have brought to the game.Um so instead he juststarted hanging around the museum of broadcasting communications until hegot to go to university uh that when hejoined an improv group uh which is wherehe met kroll and mike berbiglia uh whotook him on tour uh during his uh daysand that's how he lost his stage fright he's had his own showwith mulaney uh his own show mulaney healso appeared as himself on jim gaffigan's sitcom wherehe portrayed his jim gaffigan'snemesis as himself and he'staken roles in chip and dale spider-man cartoons ofspider-ham which you know perfect casting no notes.Track 3[5:59] His first late night gig was writing for conanuh but he's also takenon writing roles for seth myers uhas and has also written for the academy awards and theemmys he has had a couple couple of brushes withbroadway first uh bringing a special kid gorgeousto radio city music hall and then bringingoh hello the sketch from the cruel show tobeing a broadway show where they just hadrandom famous people showing up he's also released an album the top part whichis just him telling anecdotes which i need to listen to now yeah i don't knowabout that but it's just like him telling anecdotes and stories sign me up yeahbut uh his esoteric sense of humor has has led him to many projects.Track 3[6:44] Including contributing to Seth Meyers parody show documentary now.Track 3[6:48] And he is in fact a super fan of law and order.Welcome to my.Track 4[7:16] Of flour All right, JD and Matt, thank you so much. Yes, we are here.Another episode of the SNL Hall of Fame. I'm so excited about this one.This is an interesting one. We're talking about somebody who's already beenon the ballot since season one, but in a different capacity.We're kind of reorganizing our thoughts when it comes to this person.We're reframing his Hall of Fame candidacy and his role on SNL.So I'm talking about John Mulaney, who's been on the ballot as a host in previous times.We decided, let's talk about him as a writer, because that was his starting point on SNL.So we're talking John Mulaney as a writer today on the SNL Hall of Fame,and joining me to do that, a previous guest.You may have heard her on the Amy Poehler episode that we did.You may have heard her on one of the end of season roundtables where she didsuch a great job expressing her opinions that we always love to hear about.And you've probably heard her on the SNN, our buddies over at the Saturday Night Network.I'm talking about Victoria Fronzo is joining me today to chat about John Mulaney.Track 4[8:39] Victoria, how's it going? Doing well. I'm very excited to talk about the oneand only John Mulaney. I feel like we have similarities in, you know, being.Track 4[8:50] From chicago and the comedy scene i cansee that and you're one of my few guests there's ahandful of guests but you're one of my few guests who i've actually kind ofbeen able to hang out with in person so alot of us in the snl community know each other just by doing podcasts and onlinebut we've actually got to hang out in chicago so that was that was wonderfuland you're a very funny person so i can kind of see those similarities as wellyes i i took i took thomas to the best It's the best empanada place in Chicago. It's so good.Yeah. It's delicious. We had empanadas. I got an horchata. I walked around Chicago.It was a good time. Yes.I'm going to plug Cafe Tola. Always support a Latina-owned business in Chicago.So Cafe Tola is one of the best empanada places in the city of Chicago.Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. Great recommendation.Track 4[9:41] So you're living in Chicago right now. You're living the sketch comedy dream.Dream? Like, what have you been up to over the last few months or so?Oh, man. So I am, I, you know, moved back to Chicago last year from Detroit.I'm back at the Second City.I finished the conservatory slash grad review program, which was really awesome.And now I'm getting ready for my own SNL showcase because I am an SNL scholarat the Second City, which justmeans that Saturday Night Live pays for my classes and training there.And at the end of it, we get to put together whether a showcase that is SNL-likeand that it's sketches and solo pieces.And yeah, that's open to the public. So if you're around, feel free to come.I'm also just doing some writing and performing on the side too.Track 4[10:28] Yeah, if you're in Chicago, that sounds like an awesome deal.Go support Victoria and go support these SNL scholars and what they're doingover there at Second City in Chicago.It's such a cool thing. If I live closer, I would have already attended.I think I missed it by a week as well when I was up there last.Yeah, you should just, I don't know.Track 4[10:48] Rearrange your whole life and come back to Chicago. No excuse is she saying? Yes.We have, I mean, the SNL scholars are four of us.One of them quite literally flew across the world to be here from Austria.So it's a nice blend of folks that we've got in the cast.Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm excited to hear how it goes.And, again, if anybody's in the area, please go check it out.Go check out Victoria there at Second City.Somebody who probably is an influence to a lot of Second City folks,I'm sure you included, is our topic today, John Mulaney.He's a stand-up by trade. He auditioned to be a cast member for SNL.He auditioned at the same time as Nick Kroll, Donald Glover,Ellie Kemper, Bobby Moynihan, who obviously ended up getting it.Mulaney did not get the cast member job, but he ended up being offered a writingjob, which he immediately accepted.So he was a writer from 2009 to 2012.So going from auditioning to be a cast member to getting a writing job,that's not a bad deal, Victoria.I would certainly take that. I don't know about you. I would.I would take a janitor job at SNL, to be honest with you.Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if they offered me the janitor job, if they offered me whateverpage, I always wanted to be, I should have started young and tried to be a page.I know. Even then, though, it's so hard.Track 4[12:16] It's easier if you're in New York City and had connections to NBC to be a page.Yeah, and I think NBC and SNL made the right choice.Mulaney probably would have been a pretty decent cast member.Remember, he would have added his own flair, but we got the chance to reallyenjoy his writing stuff and his work as a writer.So I want to talk about his stand-up, Victoria. Are you a fan of Mulaney's stand-up?I am. So to be completely honest.It's going to shock some people here. I didn't really know about John Mulaney up until 2019.I had no idea who he was, and I've always been an SNL fan.I never went deep, though, into learning who the writers were or whatnot.But a friend of mine told me, you know, there's this guy.He just released a special on Netflix. He's so up your alley.And I go, what's his name? She goes, you don't know who that is?It's an SNL writer, John Mulaney. And I go, I have no idea who that is.Track 4[13:22] And watched his stand-up. And I don't want to say fell in love because that's inappropriate.But I did come to love his comedy very much.I'm a little bit in love with Mulaney and his comedy. So you could say fellin love. I think that's somewhat appropriate.I just don't, you know, he's got a partner. He does. I don't want to be disrespectful.He's a dad now. It's a little murky.Yeah, he's a full papa now.Yeah, so you fell in love with the stand-up material. What was it about thematerial that really grabbed you?I loved that he was weird.Or not weird, but he could find the weird in everyday things and make it funny.And not only that, you know, not to say he's a clean comedian by chance, but he...He's smart about his comedy, if that makes sense.He's smart and strategic versus, you know, going blue, as we say in comedy,to lean in as a crutch, which was really refreshing.Track 4[14:27] I think his stand-ups changed a little bit, and that's totally fair.And as it should, like as you grow and change, so should your content.I didn't expect it to stay the same, but even now with baby Jay,after everything that's happened the last couple of years, it's still really funny to me.And I love that he's kind of poked fun at his likability. And I think that's what it is.He's likable even in this new chapter of his life.Track 4[14:53] I think he has this specific relatability, if that makes sense.That's what I point about. He focuses on hyper-specific things,I think, his specific observations, but he makes them relatable,whether it's, I know that conceptthat he's talking about, or I've also observed that specific thing.I think Mulaney's always been so good at that. I think it does show up in his sketch work as well.You brought up a really good point, too, with Working Blue and his choice.I mean, he's not a clean comic. I mean, he does curse, but it's for effect.If he curses it's for a reason he's notjust using the f word as some sort of verbal pauselike a lot of comedians do it's uhmulaney's very strategic about it and he's he'svery strategic about his comedy in general victoria that's what i love abouta lot of his stand-up is i feel like one of my really funny friends is talkingto me and telling me a story so he makes it conversational but you can telland appreciate the craft that went into it at the same time It's a really neat,delicate balance that Mulaney strikes, I think.Track 4[16:03] You know, male comics, not all, of course, I'm not going to generalize them,but some of them, and quite a few of them, tend to play the D-bag role in their stand-up, right?And that can be funny at times, and I'm not opposed to it. I'll watch any type of comedy.I'll never say no, unless they're incredibly problematic or outwardly horrible.But that's what differentiated him. him he wasn't playing a bro he wasn't youknow womanizing he wasn't you know he didn't he never really punches down inhis comedy which is something i think is admirable too in a takeaway,yeah he punches a lot of times he punches at himself he like punches inward and especially.Track 4[16:51] Laterally yeah he punches laterally like a t-rex like you i think you shouldhave seen victoria on on camera she was punching and it looked like she waslike a t-rex arms punching laterally that's what and that's how i punch in reallife so don't mess oh no don't ever fight please,begging you um yeah noyou're right and he's very he's self-deprecating but not in an annoying kindof way it's like a lot of comedians are self-deprecating like all right it kindof comes off as fake like you're making fun of yourself but do you really believeit i think mulaney i believe it especially with baby j you mentioned baby jhis most recent special when he was talking Talking about his intervention,I think that was so great.It was self-deprecating, but it was like honest.And he was almost making fun of other people, but it would go back to him.And it was, I think Baby J was a, we've seen it throughout his comedy.Kid Gorgeous is one of my favorite stand-up specials of all time. Yes.That's from like 2018, around the time maybe that you get. That was the first one I watched.Yeah, okay. Maybe, yeah, Kid Gorgeous was the special. and I think that's oneof my favorite all-time stand-up specials by anybody and you could just seehis voice in that just it shines through and I think you could see.Track 4[18:10] On SNL, that comedic voice of Mulaney's show up on his work on SNL.I mean, would you say that that's correct? He has a stamp on his sketches. That's Mulaney. Yeah.Yeah, I was going to say in preparation for this, I've come to realize a lotof my favorite stuff on SNL written by Mulaney.Yeah. Or stuff that I'm laughing out loud. I'm like, oh, that's really funny.That's tied to Mulaney. but I do want to go back to his stand-up.I just want to shout out a joke he did.It's the McDonald's joke. I think it's from The Comeback Kid.He and his family are on a road trip, and they see the golden arches,and they start chanting, McDonald's, McDonald's, McDonald's.And my dad pulled into the drive-thru, and we started cheering.And then he ordered one black coffee for himself.Track 4[19:08] And kept driving.And you know, as mad as that made me as a little kid, in retrospect,that is the funniest thing I have ever seen in my entire life.How perfect is that?He had a vanload of little kids, and he got black coffee, the one thing fromMcDonald's no child could enjoy.Yeah, and now in my family, my parents watch thatwith me every time we see a mcdonald's even though wedon't necessarily go to eat from mcdonald's anymore we chant mcdonald's so yeahit's something like that no that's perfect but something like that that's sospecific that that you know happened to him or whatever but it's so relatableat the same time like you just you understand that family dynamic,that he's talking about uh there was something from kid gorgeous uh one of myfavorite bits is when he was comparing Trump to a horse loose in a hospital.This guy being the president, it's like there's a horse loose in a hospital.Track 4[20:16] It's like there's a horse loose in a hospital.I think eventually everything's going to be okay, but I have no idea what's going to happen next.And neither do any of you, andneither do your parents, because there's a horse loose in the hospital.It's never happened before.No one knows what the horse is going to do next. Least of all the horse,he's never been in a hospital before.He's as confused as you are. That's a fantastic imagery, perfect metaphor, perfect beats.Like, I think that's one of the better bits of any comedian I've seen,like, in the last 10 years.And that's the perfect way to describe him.Because last week, I watched Kid Gorgeous again. And I was just like,yeah, no, that holds true. Yeah.Track 4[21:07] Yeah, no, it's a perfect, yeah, it's a perfect way to describe that president.Yeah, pretty much, yeah. And it's so Mulaney, too.It's such a Mulaney way to describe his presidency as well. That's what I love.Like, some of my favorite comedians, he's just, like, hyper-specific voice.We did another writer, Julio Torres, recently on the SNL Hall of Fame,and he's another one where it's just like I would watch a sketch,and that's Julio Torres' voice. I watched something from Mulaney,and that's Mulaney's perspective and his voice.So I think that's just a mark of a really great writer is nothing generic.It's your stamp on it. And I'm glad I have you on here today.I want to take advantage of like your training and your knowledge and everythingjust for sketch writing in general.Victoria, like as a viewer of sketch comedy and somebody who takes part in sketchcomedy, who works in it. What are some things you look for in good sketch writing?Oh, man.Track 4[22:09] Obviously, it's subjective and everyone's everyone's different.I love what I love callbacks to something.So if you're watching a full show, this only mostly pertains to stage or theatercomedy versus, you know, an SNL type show.But when they do something in the like in an earlier sketch and then they callit back, it's called a runner.You know there are all these ties i really love that because that's it'sa smart way to put the show together and create somewhat ofa theme in terms of sketch ijust love when there's a character with a purpose right andthere's a character who's who the other characters in the sketch complimentthem and this is something we were talking talking about before we went livehere everyone in that sketch serves a purpose and it's not just they're justthere to fill space and and let this main character be weird.We talked about Herb Welch.Track 4[23:06] We know this is about Herb Welch, but every character from the anchor at thestudio to the people he's interviewing, they all compliment him,and they serve a purpose to show something,a characteristic about that person, if that makes sense. I don't know if I'mdescribing that accurately.Yeah, no, it's almost where, Where even if a character on screen is nonsensical,it has to be grounded in something.Correct. That's what I want to say, grounded. Yeah, it has to be grounded in something.And the people that you mentioned, like the supporting characters,serve as the characters who maybe ground whatever's happening.Yes. Either to highlight the absurdity or whatever. But you're right.Good sketch writing, I think, nothing should be throwaway.Track 4[23:55] And I think that's, was that something like that you, what we're getting attoo is just, you know, like you said, like the grounding aspect,but also like no, like an economy of words in a way.Like you have to use the three minutes that you have like wisely and efficiently.Yes. And I like when things are succinct and to the point versus drawn out and we don't get it.Or I like what you said about throw away. way.Sometimes, a lot of times, I should say, sketches don't need those extra linesthat you think they need, right, to justify.You know, a character doesn't have to say, hi, mom and dad.We should be able to know that just based on, we need to start in the middle of that.Or of like, well, thanks for coming to my wine and cheese night.We're going to do X, Y, Z. It's just start in the middle of the scene.We get, like, we see the wine, we see the cheese, you know what I mean?I mean, it doesn't have to be about the wine and cheese.That's, you know, just a random situation, just an example.I don't know. And I just – my favorite thing about Mulaney is that he's kind of bold, too.I don't think a lot of people would be making the same jokes that he was making. I don't know.That's also to say I don't think he would make the same jokes as he did 10,12, 13, 14 years ago either.Track 4[25:21] Times have changed. But, you know, I think he did a good job of,I don't know, I like sometimes fearless comedy.And I'm not saying that as an excuse to be a jerk, right? Right, there's a difference.Yeah, there's a difference. You should never be a jerk and, you know,make cheap shots and, you know, make marginalized people the butt of the joke.That's not what I'm saying at all. But, you know, don't be so afraid to talkabout the things that are just real life and are real to those groups or, you know what I mean?Track 4[25:55] Yeah. Yeah, and I think we saw a lot of that show up, of course,and the thing that sticks out to me and you and probably every SNL fan withMulaney is a lot of those things that you just mentioned showed up in Stefan,which Mulaney wrote with Bill Hader.And that was the best thing, I think, that almost pretty much anybody has ever done on SNL.This is one of my personal favorite things ever on SNL. yeah andi think with stefan melanie's verygood at what you just mentioned victoria's showingon her notebook she has a stefan sticker soobviously a fan of stefan buti think melanie's good at referencing things that seem very specific butare oddly relatable in stefan he's very good about not punchingdown at marginalized people but still making jokes involving marginalizedpeople in a lot of ways so talk about victoria liketalk about stefan just in general like what do you want want to say about thisawesome piece of art and something ifailed to mention again i did not doa good job of explaining why i find in a sketch butspecificity specificity is that a word that's very much a word and you did agood job there you go thank you english is my second language as i like to jokeum no but he has specifics that make it incredibly weird and and stefan right um.Track 4[27:17] Um, you know, I don't, I can, I don't know that I can describe some of the things,you know, Stefan would say, again, I don't think we'd be making the same jokes today,which is fair and fine and understandable, but you know, I don't want to saythe word, but he was talking about real life suitcases where they wear,where they wear people, but he used the M word.Yes. And like, I think it was likelayering clothes on and putting on rollerblades. And you know what I mean?Just like how stupid, you know, that's just like a stupid, funny joke.Um, yeah, that imagery.Yeah. The, the imagery of it is fun. And I love the game between Stefan and Seth of.Track 4[28:02] No, we're looking for suggestions for, you know, a Midwestern family or anybody who's not you.I got it already. Okay. New York's hottest club is Bush.This club has everything. Ghosts. Good. Banjos. Carl Palladino.A stuck-up kitten who won't sign autographs.Furcles. Oh, do I want to know? Yes, you do. So furcles are? Fat urcles. Right.Of course they are. Sure. Sure they are.And after you've been with one of those guys, you'll ask yourself, did I do that?Track 4[28:47] Stefan. Just these like weird, random, yet very specific things that don't necessarilyfit together that are under the same roof at whatever club is.It was just, yeah, it was a nice blend of weird but specific.And, you know, I think it worked for Stefan.Yeah, I absolutely agree. One of my favorite jokes that he did is Stefan.The cast is a special guest. Have you heard of Blackula, the black Dracula? Yes.Well, they have a Jewish Dracula. Oh, what's his name? Sidney Applebaum.Track 4[29:33] Sidney Applebaum. Jewish. Jewish Dracula.Sidney. It's that misdirection, that funny misdirection. I could totally tellMulaney was sitting there like, I gotta do some sort of misdirection jokes.You think he's obviously going to do a play, like blackula isa play on black dracula he says jewish dracula there'sgonna be a play on that but it's just a jewish name andthat's totally mulaney's sense of humor and iappreciate that and also the game of i i uh idon't know if you and i've ever talked about breaking before in insketches first of all okay so how do you feel justin general like about breaking i think there's a time and place you know ifyou're just breaking right off the bat it's not not funny if you're doing itexcessively it's not funny it just depends and maybe like for example debbiedowner what worked for that sketch was that everyone was breaking constantly,but that was like a joint yeah this is funny and ridiculous and we're you knowthe fact they couldn't get through it was funny to us but if it's a single personwho's just breaking and it doesn't seem genuine.Track 4[30:51] They kind of ruined it. Yeah. Yeah. I think with Stefan, to me,it did seem genuine. As the audience, we started kind of knowing the game thatMulaney was playing with Bill Hader in there.So Mulaney would change the cue cards.He would change the punchlines to some of the jokes.And so when Bill, as Stefan, was reading the joke, that could have been thefirst time that he was reading that specific punchline.Even though they did it in dress i think between dress and air milani wouldhe would have punch lines like multiple versions of apunch line of a joke so he would just switch out punch linesbetween dress and air so that'd be the first time that we saw bill reading thatjoke so i think in breaking in that case yes it's funny there's like a funnygame it's part of this bit or whatever and it's something that with debbie downeri think the first time they did it was natural and that's That's why it was a classic.And then they tried to recreate it and it wasn't the same.And they found the magic with Stefan being able to recreate the game of breaking.And I don't know how they did it. They weren't able to recreate it.And Debbie Downer, Lisa from Temecula recently, I don't think they've been able to recreate that.But with Stefan, millennium hater managed to recreate breaking and make it seem authentic every time.Like, I wonder why that is, Victoria, what's the difference?Track 4[32:17] Well, it's probably because every single thing Stefan says is he's a firecracker.You don't know what he's going to say, and he doesn't know what he's going to say.And I think why that's getting a laugh is that those folks in studio are also seeing that.They're seeing the switch or whatever. But I think it works for them because.Track 4[32:39] The nature of Stefan is so out there and wild and weird that he's not a relatable character.He's not saying the run-of-the-mill things of, oh, my favorite breakfast is pancakes with bacon.He's saying some very weird things.And to say them in person, out loud, in front of an audience is kind of,you know, like, what am I saying? I do that too sometimes.His favorite breakfast would be like uppers and regret. Or something like that. I don't know.Yeah. And I mean, I've gotten my breaking under control. But I've broken on stage.Yeah. And it's just funny because I'm, and to me, what's making it funny iswe've been rehearsing this.And we've got the joke. And, you know, we've, whatever.But now we're sharing this with other people who are not comedians.Track 4[33:37] And we don't know how they're going to react to what we know is ridiculous andI'm going to say it and hope for the best.You know what I mean? Yeah. Part of the breaking is that we're now saying thisin front of people who we don't know.We don't know what they're going to say, how they're going to react to it essentially.Yeah. Yeah, that's a really neat perspective on breaking, I guess from a performer's side of it.I think, yeah, just as long as it doesn't feel forced or – Yes,I think that's what I – you're better at words today than I am,but that's what I meant of when you're solo or you start breaking off the bat or whatever it is.If it just doesn't seem genuine, if you're not actually laughing,you're just doing it to deflect or try to make this funnier or trying to be funny by breaking –.Track 4[34:27] I don't think it works. I think people will notice that. And if you're genuinelybreaking, people will laugh with you and not at you.Yeah, essentially, Mulaney's a magician when it comes to this because he wasable to make it seem authentic and part of the game and everything like that with Stefan.So Stefan, by the way, on the Saturday Night Network's character countdown,I believe he was number one. I was on that episode.Yeah, he was number one. Do you agree with Stefan? Like, could you see him beingnumber one in a character countdown?It's 49 years of history, I know. But what do you think of that?I'm trying to think of, well, okay, hold on. I was going to say,who else would be number one?But I really love some of Kristen Wiig's characters, too. But Stefan being numberone is a fair assessment.That kind of makes sense, right? Yeah. Because there are no diminishing returns, too.So I think that's another thing about good sketch writing. writingis if you keep writing the samefor the same character and how are the returnson it with Stefan I don't think Victoria there was diminishing returnson Stefan it might have gotten better honestly so that as a sketch writer andsomebody who appreciates sketch like how that that's such a sometimes a rarething not to see diminishing returns for a recurring character no that's completelyaccurate it's a fair assessment I was like unless you're doing.Track 4[35:52] A specific show about those same characters butyeah no it's i thinkthat's one thing that stefan got the sameamount of laughs if not even more laughs every time he heshowed up yeah and that's just great writing andgreat performance by bill of course bill hater yep amazing performerbut that's just like the team like millennia bill just such a wonderful teamuh so stefan on yeah we love victoria has a step on sticker on her notebookso we we all love step on uh something that that i've always loved very relatablething of forgetting people's names,uh so it's presented in a fun way by millennia so millennia's behind the what'sthat name sketches so victoria these are these get me every time i think hedid three of them But all three were just fantastic.You know, like a relatable premise. I love these. What did you think of what's that name?Track 4[36:50] It's interesting. So I have a very millennial slash Gen Z take on this.So there are people that will follow me and I follow them back on Instagram.And we have our names on Instagram.But I won't know their real name, but I know their Instagram name. Oh, no.And, for example, this literally happened last night where there's this personwho's – I've met them in person, and we follow each other on Instagram,but I forgot their real name. Is it me?Did you forget my name? Tim.Track 4[37:31] No his name is thomas everybody his name is thomas itsays it in the top top left cornerhere um no but there's a person that iran into and i forgot his real nameand i was about to call him hisinstagram handle but i think it'sjust again it's a very funny premise i thinkthat's a great take on how to present this versus doinga real life like relationship sketchif that makes sense yeah you know i love that they putit in game format and not just hey we're at a hot dog stand and i don't knowyour name and what kind of game can we play within the sketch i love that theformat of it is a game show yeah i think game show sketches get a bad rap likepeople say oh oh, another game show sketch.But I think that it's format. Like the format of a game show is ripe to presentjokes, to present situations.Track 4[38:28] I think it just gets a bad rap. But to me, it being a game show sketch in andof itself, I don't think it's a bad thing. It's just about execution.Just like with any of this stuff, it's about the execution. I agree with youthat it was a good idea to make this a game show.And, of course, Bill Hader, like arguably one of the best game show hosts in SNL history.You can make him a game show host with anything. Yeah. Knock it out of the park.I know your whole family. Your son Avi loves Outer Space. What's my name?Track 4[39:01] Carl? Audience, what's that name? Norman.Norman the doorman. Oh, I'm so sorry.Say hi to the wife for me. I'm sorry, what's that? that, say hi to my wife.Yeah, OK, I'll take the bus out to Forest Hills Cemetery and tell her that you say hello.Track 4[39:24] God, what the hell kind of show is this? It's What's That Name?The interactions between Hader and the contestants, he was like,Bill Hader was antagonistic.He's like the sadistic game show host. He was like, I know you forget names,and I'm doing this on purpose to put you in this position.So uh yeah the the first onethey did was uh season 36 episode 9uh it was mulaney he he co-wrote thesewith uh simon rich who he collaborated collaborated with a lot and merica sawyerso there's like his writing partners a lot of the time on the show and he collaboratedwith them on what's that name it was like paul rudd vanessa bear keenan comesout as uh the doorman and paul rudd's trying to remember the name it's norman the doorman like Like,how easy is it to remember that name?So these are just, like, lovely, lovely sketches.He did it, too, when he came back to host as well.Track 4[40:23] Yeah, I thought that was very funny. Keena was like, I know your son,and he loves outer space. What's my name?And, yeah, it was very, very funny. I love that one and the one with Mulaneyand Cecily, that the women were, you know, executives in part.Like, you know, they were high-ranking in their workplaces, so shout-out tothat, and not just making them stay-at-home moms or whatever it is.Mulaney and Simon Rich and Marika Sawyer lifting up women.Yes. In the What's That Name sketch. Bonus points.Yeah. For the SNL Hall of Fame if you lift up women.Yeah. You have to.In this economy, you have to. In this economy, that's just, yeah.Bonus points for the SNL Hall of Fame candidacy. So What's That Name?I know just a fan favorite that Mulaney was behind along with Marika Sawyer and Simon Rich.Track 4[41:22] Something that's very Mulaney specific to me it's a funny observation aboutLifetime movies and Mulaney's done this in his stand up not specifically aboutLifetime movies but he's talked about what like Law and Order,and made funny observations about that recently at the Academy Awards he hada whole thing about Field of Dreams that was great.Shout out Field of Dreams what a good movie what a good movie.It's a little absurd though in a lot of ways that Mulaney I mean,yeah, he did that for, um, what's funny is that Field of Dreams and the Fugitive,which he, which he described.Oh, I forgot what standup special it was. Like.Two movies my family loved watching together growing up, and he described them so ridiculous.It was funny. Ridiculous but accurate, but it was very funny.Yeah, in a loving way. He's so good about taking just the grinding at the heartof what makes something its essence, the essence of what makes something sillyand ridiculous, and really highlighting that stuff.So he did a sketch in season 37. He wrote a sketch called What's Wrong with Tanya.Okay, let's go over the rules. a lifetime movie Tanya will walk out and you'llhave 15 seconds to guess what's wrong with her. There's nothing wrong with her!Yes, yes there is.Let's bring out our first Tanya.Track 4[42:49] All right, mothers, what is wrong with Tanya?Tanya! Tanya! Tanya! Oh my God, look at me! Tanya! Tanya! Tanya!Mary Jo Beth Jojo! Tanya! You've been going to those parties where girls dooral sex for bracelets! That's right!Track 4[43:08] That's right! Of course, Bill Hader again, playing a villainous kind of host.It was a very specific observation about Lifetime movies, Victoria.And I don't know if you've watched a lot of Lifetime movies,but this was painfully accurate i was gonna ask you if you've watched any andif you go back to this they have the old logo.Track 4[43:29] Which is just incredible like that logobrought up a lot of memories from being a young girlwatching lifetime i feel like i was home growing up like being home sick andwhen the price is right was done i'd be flipping channels and maybe somethingridiculous on lifetime would be on and And he would kind of suck me in for like15 to 20 minutes. But I know the beats.So I know the beats of those movies.I know that what was portrayed in the What's Wrong with Tanya sketch is completelyaccurate. He got the archetypes just right.Yes. Yeah, I love the contestants all being the same thing. Yeah.Just like what, the nosy neighbor kind of?Yeah, and they all kind of look like Martha Stewart. Stewart.You're right. I didn't pick up on that. Yeah, they were just,it was the same person in different font.Like, each contestant, like, they were all blonde, they were all wearing thesame shades of pink and cream, same personality.It was, and I'm like, yeah, that's, those are the people watching Lifetime. And maybe even...Even some of the characters in Lifetime movies. You're right.Yeah, he also is poking fun at the viewers of these movies as well.I can definitely see that. My favorite part is when Andy Samberg comes out.Track 4[44:49] But it can happen to a boy. So you thought. All right, mothers,what's wrong with boy Tanya?Tanya. Oh, no. Boy Tanya. What's wrong with boy Tanya? Boy Tanya.Boy Tanya. Boy Tanya. Major William. Tanya, you're a secret stripper. No.Tanya you're pregnant what no come on tanya your english teacher caught youcheating so he made you take naked pictures and now they're online and it'sgiving you an eating disorder and also you can't read.Track 4[45:25] I don't know calling him boy tanya is justsuch like a mulaney like chef's kiss kind of touch tome and guessing that he's pregnant like yeahand then bill hater's like what no and then they justgotta move on yeah and like saidwhat was it what was ended up happening with him somethingabout seeing something that left him with an eatingdisorder or something yeah he had an eating disorder and something yeah i'llyeah i'll go i'll go play back but i'll go play back for sure yeah but thatwas just such such great beats in this though the winning contestant does thethe lightning round while the other two contestants watch while pretending to rake leaves.That's like such a specific observation that, that he threw into this.It's so perfect. It's so, I'm going to say this a lot.It's so Mulaney. This whole thing. I love at the end, um, he grabs her.She's like, you're hurting me. Who's going to believe you?Yeah. You're not, you're not going anywhere. You'll never leave me.And those are classic lifetime movie. Yeah.Track 4[46:27] Lines yeah mulaney again so goodabout mining for the specificity insomething and really highlighting it andthe absurdity that comes with it that's like that'swhy i love mulaney truth be told he's myfavorite working comedian right now like stand-up wisebecause of these little things because ofthe way he structures things and observes things and andpresents thing so he Mulaney is my favoritestand-up comedian right now he has the championship beltfor me wow I don'tknow if that's that's a that's a big claim it's abig claim I know I stand by it you standup by it no oh geez somethingelse that I stand by thishappened happened actually uh when he washosting but it was such a millennia thing oneof the one of my favorite sketches of the pastfew years and i don't know i haven't really talked to a ton of people aboutthis one um and i think you said you watched it it's the monkey judge one yesfrom season 47 i think that this is like to me this almost structurally is likea perfect sketch Your Honor,it is obvious that you're favoring the defense. That is ridiculous.Your Honor, I love Judge.Track 4[47:53] I love you. I love Judge.You are baby. Judge, love baby. Bring Judge, baby. Judge, love you. Judge, favor defense.Oh, come on. Yeah, we move to request a new judge.Are you suggesting that I'm not competent? confident tango made these piecesmatch sure it was a bit of trial and error but i did it i won the juice.Track 4[48:23] You don't have to think it's like a perfect sketch but what did you what wereyour impressions of it well one i want someone to love me as much as you lovejohn mulaney my goodness no that was a very very funny sketch.And I think, again, something we've been saying and will continue to say aboutJohn Mulaney are, it's this attention to detail and picking up on everyday things and those,little details of the everyday things and bringing them up and presenting them to us, right?Oh, yeah. A lot of it's like, oh, yeah, I never thought about that.It's a lot of what I think when I watch and listen to his stuff.It's like, oh, yeah, that's exactly what they do.You know, talking about how, you know, in this sketch, oh, he's smiling.No, he's just like showing his teeth to assert dominance.Like those specific details or, you know, blue shape, blah, blah, blah.Track 4[49:24] Just pointing out those specific things is what works for him.And it's very smart, right? Yeah.He's able to describe those things that I wouldn't be able to describe.Yeah. A lot of people wouldn't. And he has a great way of, again,pulling the very minute and blowing it up to make it funny.And I think that's what worked in this sketch. And it was about monkeys, right?We all have seen monkeys. monkeys but he but he wasable to one personify that that monkeyand also you know put infront of us how monkeys act and what that wouldlook like in a in a courtroom essentially yeah it'salmost like i had when i was done watching the sketch i had justfinished watching like a documentary on monkeys because i felt likei learned so much but it was also veryfunny just funny acute observations like when hewas when melissa via senor she played the character that thatgot injured by uh by somebody's petmonkey and she was talkingabout they asked her the question like what kind of hat were youwearing and she's like i usually wear a bucket hat but i was wearing a differenthat and then as the monkey judge he's like so let me get this straight you approachthis person as a completely different shape and you expect or you approach thismonkey as a completely different shape and you expected him to be just be coolabout that like yeah like No, that's so funny.Track 4[50:49] So was this a new hat? Well, I usually wear an orange bucket hat,but I was wearing a green baseball cap.Track 4[50:56] Yeah. Which is, you know. You thought the monkey would just be cool with this?You were completely different. Yeah.Track 4[51:02] That's fair. He gets mad at Keenan. He's like, I will now throw sand at you to show dominance.And he like tossed sand at him. like this yeah it was just soagain very mulaney to have likethe behavioral traits of a monkey but presentthem as very human in acourtroom setting i don't know i was like blownaway by this sketch when i saw it i thought it was so smartand i thought the structure was great shout out simon rich and please don'tdestroy who also were helped with this but this is a recent recent sketch itwas from season 40 it was two seasons ago season 47 yeah i'm just like i wasjust like really honestly blown away by like the writing of this sketch,so what else would you like to bring up victoria i've already i expressed mylove for monkey judge so i think i'd like kind of tap out on that and spareeverybody my complete like maybe we'll do a bonus one an hour and a half episodeof me just breaking down monkey judge but is there anything else from melanie that you want to bring up,I feel like we're going to have to bring up one of the musicals,either Diner Lobster or Bodega Bathroom. I think that's kind of essential.Which one? Okay, which one's your favorite out of the musicals?And we'll talk about that one.Bodega Bathroom. Hey man, do you have a bathroom?Track 4[52:24] A what? A bathroom, like a bathroomI could use? Dude, did you just ask to use a bathroom in a bodega?I mean, what? Who cares? It's an emergency.Would you like the key to the bathroom? Charlie, yo, if you do this,I don't think we can be friends anymore, man.Dude, relax. It's just a bathroom. I'm sure it's fine. It's a cinder block, bro.And so it shall be. Oh, Bodega Cat! Show this man to the bathroom.I never watched Les Mis, so... Me neither.Really? Really? Yeah, I'm not really. We had to kind of read it,I think, in high school. Was it Les Mis? Yeah.Yeah. But I never, I don't really remember it. But I felt like I remembered it.Like, it still felt familiar, them doing Les Mis in this sketch.I'm going to tell you how uncultured I am right now, Thomas.I don't even really know what Les Mis is about. Something about French.French war. A French something happened.You don't have to sell me on you being uncultured, Victoria.I already know. So it's fine.So Thomas, I like your humor because it's nonchalant and you don't need to try hard.Like you just slip it in and it's part of your everyday like speech.And I don't know if you've intended it this way, but I'm taking that as a compliment.It is. It is a compliment.Track 4[53:51] Thank you, Victoria. Because you don't shift your tone. You just say it as you would anything else.That's the Mulaney you think about me. I don't know. Yeah. I just have to thinktwice. I'm like, did he? No, this is a joke. Yeah.Which makes it funnier. No, we can talk about Bodega Bathroom.Yeah. Yeah. So remind us what the beats, kind of the beats of Bodega Bathroom.So one, I want to shout out that I don't see Pete Davidson as a musical type guy.I can't see him, you know, watching Anything Goes, Kinky Boots, Wicked.I can't see him watching those things. But I don't know him.I don't know him personally.I've only met him once for a solid second and a half on his 21st birthday, I should tell you.And his 21st birthday was nine years ago. So I do not know Pete Davidson.I just know what the media has told me. And they're not telling me much here.Nonetheless, I love that he's in, he's the center.Track 4[54:58] Both of these pieces, the diner lobster and bodega bathroom, is just a weird fit.But essentially, Pete Davidson asked the bodega owner to use the bathroom,which then sets off a musical chain of events, revealing a secret.As all these musical sketches do, he did five in a row.From seasons 43 to 47, he hosted five times, and this was like a staple of these episodes.Episodes so uh so yeah bodega bathroom colinjost and gary richardson it'sworth a close oh that was a colin jost yeah colinwell wow one of the stories about these musicals isthat mulaney and jost when they were both onthe writing staff they tried to get diner lobsteron in like 2010 or somethinglike a long time ago and they could just.Track 4[55:50] Never get it on for whatever reason i think mulaney maybe said thatit didn't play well uh at the pitch meetingor whatever so it never got past that leveluh but when mulaney hosted heand jost were like yeah we got to get this on let's try toget diner lobster let's do it so that's what that's likethe genesis of these musical sketches was them trying toget diner lobster on when they were writers and itdidn't happen so yeah so jost isdefinitely like huge part of these as well iwas gonna say i did not know that yeah that's agood surprise you he's not he's not justa pretty punchable face oh yeah wellhe dubbed himself that so he did his words not minethat's on him yeah um no ii didn't know that that was i just thought ithought john mulaney loved musicals ithink he does i think he has the spirit of atheater kid does that make sense yes likehe was very even in his stand-up he's very he speaks to the back of the audiencehe's very dramatic in his presentation and it's very theatrical yes so thisdoesn't surprise me that he would want to do theater musical based based sketches.I also, so I'm not a huge musical girly myself. Like I love some musicals.I did musicals in high school.Track 4[57:16] Or was at least part of them. But I do try to put musicals on stage.Track 4[57:24] I try to do musical style stuff. I don't know. We'll talk about that later another day. But yeah.Yeah. Harnessing your John Mulaney energy with that.I'm consistently harnessing the John Mulaney energy. That's good energy to be harnessed.This is like a celebration. This is a loose kind of episode,I suppose, because it fits john mulaney it's very uhjust a very celebratory i likei feel when i did that when i went and did research and notresearch when i reached rewatch stuff for this itjust always it just put me in a good mood it put me in like a greatheadspace because just mulaney has thatability he has that touch and that's whyyou know we we've gone through herb welch coach stefan what's that name someof the one-off stuff like like monkey judge the great great monkey judge uhwhat's wrong with tanya mentioned his musicals like that's a quite the hall of fame.Track 4[58:24] Resume wouldn't you say victoria like if youwere a writer on snl would you not be proud to have all ofthat on your resume absolutely i think there'salso a component here in that this boygot range like he has it's avariety of stuff you know stefan is astandalone character that they've done some they've puthim in a sketch or two but then he was a stand-up youknow a recurring character you know uh gameshows musicals andthen of course your your average sketches thatyou're putting on here on on the on the showi think it speaks to the varietythat he brings even though it's aMulaney style sketch and you can tell whenhe's you know had a part in it he still brings somea few different things to the table and Ithink that's really impressive and I qualifies him for the hallof fame and not only that you know peoplelove John Mulaney even if they're not watching SNL they'rewatching his stand-up or they know about him orthey know that he's had an impact on SNL through his writing and they can tellyou anyone can tell you hey John Mulaney did this they're very aware too he'sa likable person and I know he you know says likability is a jail but I think.Track 4[59:47] Just calling it out. He's been through a few things in the last couple years.And I commend him for getting back up on his feet.And I don't know his journey well enough to judge and I'm not going to I wouldnever I would never be able to judge a situation like that.But I think he's done an excellent job of reclaiming himself and his comedyand kind of reintroducing himself to the world as, hey, I'm not this perfect,you know, button up guy, I do have some flaws.And I think he shows that in Baby J. But even in Baby J., though it was differentfrom his past work, was still funny and still called out those details and thespecifics and, you know, the mundane things.And he was able to do it in his own way.And people, I think, just appreciate that about him.And there's no, he really is the comeback kid, is what I'll say.And I think his his work speaks for itself.Even if you didn't know his name, you know, his sketches, you know,everyone knows who Stefan is. Stefan is a beloved.I think Stefan in and of itself qualifies him for, for the hall of fame.Track 2[1:01:12] So there's that. Victoria, Thomas, you really brought it. You left it all out there.And I got to say, I'm going to be shocked if Mulaney doesn't make it into the hall one way or another.He's going to be on the ballot in two categories this time, which is unprecedented here in the hall.Now, I want to circle back on something Victoria talked about right toward theend when she mentioned Stefan. And we are going to listen to a Stefan sketch now.This is Trademark, Hater, and Mulaney.They play off each other and feed one another so well.And Stefan, like Victoria mentioned, is beloved at this point.He's probably a top 10 maybe even top 5 character I forget what the SNN cameup with when they did characters but he's got to be right up there,so let me not dilly dally any further and let's get to Stefan on Weekend Update.Track 5[1:02:26] It's Christmas time in New York which means millions of tourists will be comingto see what holiday magic the Big Apple has to offer.Here with some tips on where you and your children should go is our city correspondent, Stefan.Hi. Hi. Hi, Stefan. It's an exciting time, isn't it? I know,right? So many Republican candidates. Who do you pick?Okay, so, Stefan, a lot of families are making their way to Manhattan to havesome holiday fun. Are there any places you can recommend?Yes, yes, yes, yes. 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This week on the program we welcome our friend Deremy Dove into the hallowed halls to discuss the career of funny man Tracy Morgan. Join us won't you? Transcript:[0:41] Thank you so much, Doug and Nance. It is fantastic to be here with you all.And there are quite a few of you. I can see you queued up outside the SNL Hall of Fame.My name is J.D., and it is just a thrill to be with you here on this lovely Monday.We have got a fantastic show for you.But before we go any further, I feel it necessary to tell you to wipe your feetbefore coming into the hall. all.Now, back when I was a wee lad, my mother scolded me once for making a messof the floor, and ever since then I feel compelled to tell people to wipe their feet.There. I've said it. It's finally out in the public, and I feel great.Thanks for being my therapist by proxy. The check is in the mail.The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair fair where each episode we takea deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest,or writer and add them to the ballot for your consideration.Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener,to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall.And that's how we play the game. It's just that That simple. You listen.You vote. We tabulate. We announce.Track 2[2:06] Repeat after me. You listen. You vote.We tabulate. And we announce. Speaking of announcements, our good friend MattArdill is standing around loafing.It looks like, hey, if you've got time enough to lean, you've got time enough to clean, young man.Track 3[2:25] Hey, JD, I saw the new exhibits on the way in. I really like the Norm Macdonaldhat collection that we've got going on.Turd Ferguson, that Turd Ferguson hat and that big hat. It's funny.Yeah, you can't go wrong with a funny hat. That's right.How are you doing? I'm excellent right now. Yeah, I'm pretty good.What have you got for us this week? I have got an awesome player of Tracy Morgan.So I'm really looking forward to sharing some facts about him. Well, let's do it.Great. Well, Tracy's 5'9", born November 10th, 1968.He has 67 acting credits, five producer credits, and eight writing credits.Born in Brooklyn and raised in Marlborough Houses and Tompkins Houses in Bedford.He was actually named after a platoon mate of his father who shipped off withhis dad to Vietnam, but was killed in an action within days of deployment.Track 3[3:31] So his dad was very close to this guy, and so that's why he got that name.Um yeah he went on tomarry his high school sweetheart and began hiscomedy career at the age of 17 by performing stand-upon street corners in new york he had his datefirst debut as hustle manon the television show martin sohe's been working hard since he was akid um and it shows i meanhe lists his influences as carol burnett lucille balljackie gleason which i actually see the mostin a lot of what he does uh martin lawrenceeddie murphy and richard prior uh buthe learned about that is a great pedigree huh yeah that's athat's a really good good lineup but yeah the thingis he he says he learned his comedy first fromhis dad who taught him about jonesing whichis basically roasting people he put put himon his lap and they would roast people on the the streetand he also drew from his uncles who he said were also very funny so you knowit runs in the family um you can actually see his first stand-up gig which isan apollo theater amateur night on youtube so if you want to go out and seehis first big break it's there for you to find.Track 3[4:52] I'm going to have to watch that. Yeah. Yeah. You don't get that.See that with a lot of comedians. No. Yeah.He nicknamed all the talk show hosts that he's appeared with.So David Letterman is D rock.Jimmy Fallon is Jimbo and Conan O'Brien is C black.Track 3[5:08] The line between Tracy Morgan and Tracy Jordan is remarkably thin. That's right.Yeah. So he has lobster for dinner every day.He does in fact own sharks. He has, at this point, 15, and he has a backyard tank.And now, to be fair, he has a very close relationship with his daughter,who wants to be a marine biologist.So at least partially he's doing this for her. Oh, it's a shark pony.Track 3[5:40] Yeah, it's a shark pony. Yeah, some people get pony ponies.She got a shark pony. um yeah toentertain his daughter uh and her friends he turnshis basement into a haunted house and he goes allout to the point he every halloweenhe actually won't go into the basement because he's afraid ofthe haunted house that he sets up in his own house umthat's spectacular now he whendrinking he does have a alter ego uh namedchico divine that he describes as thethe coolest dude who would never hurt anybody but chicodid at least piss piss one person off as princekicked chico out of his house uhfollowing a pre-grammy party he got a little out of control um now the thingis this actually helped turn tracy's life around because he got a dui whichled to a confrontation between himself and his son and from that point on he's been sober.Track 3[6:39] Wow. Good for him.Track 3[7:09] So it was a real uh great great thing for him to do to honor his dad that is great,what a tear-jerking end to trivia this week yeah a little bit more serious and and uh,intense uh trivia but it was one of those things where it's like you know iwas reading it i'm like should i you know leave this out because it's a littledown but it's like it really helps explain explain a lot of his comedy and thecharacter behind Tracy.I mean, I've met people who've done shows with him and they say he's like a really sweet dude.And this is where a lot of this comes from. Awesome.Well, our friend, Jeremy Dove is here and he is down with Thomas right now.So let's turn it over to those two.Track 4[8:30] All right. Matt Ardill, JD, thank you so much for that.And I am excited today because we have, first of all, a great guest.Second of all, really interesting nominee.Track 4[8:45] Very different nominee. And I think my guest today and I talking before we hitrecord, that's kind of the word that came up was different.Tracy Morgan is such a different cast member. He has such a different vibe comparedto a lot of people that have been on the show.So this is going to be a fun one to get into. So to talk all things Tracy Morganand SNL, I have with me my guest for today, my friend, a great guest on theSNL Hall of Fame in the past.He's been on for Dick Ebersole, Adam McKay, been on a roundtable.Track 4[9:21] Great guy, I think, to chat about Tracy Morgan. Deremy Dove.Deremy, how's it going, man?Thomas, I'm honored by your kind words, and I'm honored to be here to talk aboutsomeone who is, as you said, just so different in SNL history.We're going on near 50 years, and it's always you think like, oh, you've seen it all.But with Tracy Morgan, he is one of one.He's definitely one of one. With Tracy Morgan, it's a lot about vibes.So we're going to vibe out today on some Tracy Morgan.So you're a podcaster, obviously.So you have the Bigger Than The Game podcast with Jose Ruiz. I'm a fan.Tell everyone what's been going on over at Bigger Than The Game, man.Well, we just did our most recent episode was on the 60th anniversary of SonnyListon versus Cassius Clay, who later became Muhammad Ali.And it was just, like, incredible that, like, man, it's been 60 years sincethat legendary and epic match.And it was kind of fun to look at. I know you'll enjoy this, Thomas.Track 4[10:29] In the same month, February of 1964, the Beatles went on Ed Sullivan and youngCassius Clay Muhammad Ali upset Sonny Liston to become heavyweight champion.Champion and it's like man in that month two thingsthat really changed not only the decade but the way welook at pop culture sports everything twoof the biggest figures of the 20th century the Beatles and Muhammad Ali reallyemerged all in that same month so it's just really fun to kind of get into justwhat this match set up for the rest of the decade and the rest of the 20th centuryas far as sports I love it you guys talk sports history but you break it downyou put Put it into that context.You talk about all the narratives surrounding the sporting event or whatevertopic you're talking about at the time.You and Jose do such a great deep dive into all the topics that you cover.So I love it. Thank you. Go check out Bigger Than The Game with Jeremy and Jose.And I'm told you have another podcast. Why don't you tell everyone about that?So it's this show called Pop Culture 5.It's me and this guy. What's his name? I think it's Thomas Senna oh my goshthat's right we do have a podcast together we have a show I mean who would have thought it so,that has been just so fun to do the show with you man my friend and.Track 4[11:53] We look at anything in music, movies, TV shows, and we're picking five essential things from that.So if it's TV, it's episodes, music, it could be songs for an actor, a director, movies.And we're just kind of talking about our five essentials. And depending on who'sthe host, if you're the host that week, you get three.The co-host gets two, but gets veto power.So it's really like a fun twist on it. And we've gotten nothing but great responses,and I've just really enjoyed doing the show with you, man.Yeah, I look forward to it every week, recording episodes.I love deep diving into our topics at any given week.So one week, I'm all about Nirvana.One week, I'm deep diving into Spike Lee movies and Spielberg.And so it's just been a lot of fun, man. And I think when this Tracy Morganepisode gets released, we'll be up to 25 episodes around then, something like that.Yeah. Yeah. So being released because we have some banked. So this has been– I think we found a really nice groove.Absolutely. Absolutely. Big credit to you for that, man.And you too. So everybody go check out my podcast and Deremy's podcast, Pop Culture 5.Track 4[13:14] Today, we're here on the SNL Hall of Fame. See, I got to get into SNL Hall of Fame mode.Yeah. Yeah, I was going to do this introduction like I was on Pop Culture 5,but we got to get into SNL Hall of Fame mode here.I know, it's a brain shift. It is a brain shift.So, today we're talking about Tracy Morgan here on the SNL Hall of Fame.Tracy joined the cast when he was 27. He auditioned at the same time as Stephen Colbert.Track 4[13:38] Stephen Colbert and Tracy Morgan auditioned, and Tracy auditioned with a littlekid character named Biscuit. Have you seen his audition?I have. I have seen it. Well, can you describe his audition and who Biscuit is?Because it was a really memorable audition to me. I'll be honest, right?Track 4[13:57] It's really weird. For the whole audition, there's certain people,like when you watch Phil Hartman's and Will Ferrell, and to me,it's just like, oh, that's a lock.Track 4[14:06] That guy has to be on. or even Jimmy Fallon forTracy's it was really like I'm likeman like it's not that it's not funny but it'sjust so it's just so different and unique andI'm just like I wonder what they talked aboutin the room once he like got done and saidthank you like you know what I mean because like you mentioned Biscuitand Biscuit was just this I'm probably gonnastruggle to describe but like just this odd character thathe kind of like had I feel like he did it from his stand-up days yeahit was like a little kid who was this kindof shy kid but not almost a socially awkward kidbut he would but then the premise was that he was asked torecite like a christmas poem or something yeah soit was like he was this shy kid but like hewas awkward but would kind of say these like weirdlike i don't know sassy kind of stuff at times like itwas was just really like it was differentit was just so weird for a character to biscuit littlekid named biscuit that's like definitely a tracy morgan touchon this and so like i mentioned he he and steven colbert were two of the finalistsand i've heard norm mcdonald even say like norm mcdonald was part of the selectionprocess and he watched the uh all the uh people audition and And he even said,he's like, I just assumed that Stephen was going to get it.Track 4[15:31] Yeah. We saw both of them. And even Norm said, I just thought,oh, Stephen Colbert is going to be a cast member. Right.Track 4[15:38] But I don't know. His audition, Tracy's audition won the show over, Jeremy.So one, I mean, what do you think?Track 4[15:50] It was about Tracy that might have won SNL over.And two, that's quite the what if between Stephen Colbert and Tracy. Yeah.Well, number one, I believe Tracy just has raw charisma.There's some people who they're just naturally funny.It's like the guys, like the class clown when you're in school or at the lunch table.Track 4[16:16] They just are funny. and they can almost like readthe phone book to you and they'll crack you upand Tracy has that you know a lot of times comedians they'rethey're you know it's an art form and it's trained it's timing andall those things but then there's just some who break throughwho it's just something about them they just make you all their mannerisms justmake you laugh and you can't pinpoint one specific thing you're like I likethis guy he just cracks me up and Thomas I don't know this is a hot take foryou or not but when i'm thinking about tracy morgan and getting ready for this episode.Track 4[16:52] I think this is lauren michaels most uniquehire and i also think whenit comes to judging how good of a talent evaluator lauren michaels is i go totracy morgan as number one yeah because of it's such a unique hire like thisshows me like lauren he thought outside the box when it comes to who who he's bringing on the cast.No, I don't think that's a hot take. I think I used a different word,but I think it encapsulates the same thing.We were probably both thinking along the same lines. I think it's one of Lorne's most inspired hires.That's a good word. It's a better word. No, it's a different word,but I think unique's a great word too for it. A unique hire, an inspired hire.I have to give Lorne and the other producers, I think Steve Higgins was probably,Obviously, Steve Higgins has been there forever.He's been there longer than Keenan. That's how long Steve Higgins has been there. Yes, yes.So I have to think whoever is in charge, Morrissey. Mm-hmm.Track 4[17:52] Choosing Tracy Morgan, they could have gone the easy route and chose StephenColbert and, you know, just plugged him in.But choosing Tracy was just like such a – it was a conscious,it was a deliberate choice to choose somebody like Tracy.Yeah, I'm wondering, like, if you look at the cast, like, do you think at thetime that they needed somebody like Tracy, like, to feel some sort of thing to add?Well, it's interesting because he came in 96, so he's not part of that 95 castwho saved the show again with Will Ferrell and Sherry O'Terry and everything.But he's still remembered as part of that group, even though he came a year later.He's still kind of grouped in with those guys as part of the group that kind of saved the show.So it's interesting because that's one season kind of removed from the toughesttime Lorne has really had on the show where like the network executives werekind of breathing down his neck and being like, you got to get the show funnier.And, you know, you kind of lost. And we've talked about this before.We kind of understand where they're coming from. That 94, 95 season was not really that good.So I think he was looking for people to kind of had an original voice.I think you hear Lawrence say that a lot when he's doing those interviews.I think he wanted people who were original and kind of got back to.Track 4[19:21] Snl really is and i think he wanted someone totracy's credit who people like towork with and was easy to work with too and ithink that's also a big thing that people don't talk about for tracyi'm glad you mentioned about the show's originalvibe and hearken back to that because there's an element of tracy that i thinkis part of the spirit of the original snl and that's almost that danger aspectyes yes like that unpredictability and that's that's a good thing and tracycould be unpredictable but in like a controlled way he's still a professional,he's still you know it's not like he sabotaged sketches ordid anything like that tracy was a professional but he had this aura vibe abouthim that was uh dangerous or unpredictable i think that did harken back to theoriginal time then that was something to me they probably wanted to shy awayfrom that in season 21 because they had just come off of sandler and farley and they were.Track 4[20:18] Dangerous quote-unquote and unpredictable but it got to bea disruption on the show i think right i thinkthey maybe consciously didn't hire somebody like that for the immediate seasonfollowing sandler and farley and those guys but maybe they re-evaluated andlike let's get somebody who can add that danger that unpredictability i meanis there something to Am I just being a weird SNL fan? No, no. I think there is.It was that tamed. Like you said, it's a controlled danger.It wasn't someone that, oh, he's off the rails and is not willing to work.And I think also he brought a confidence, too, where just from Tracy's background,his upbringing, you know, doing stand-up, I think, as well.Like there's a difference between being an improv actor and being a stand-upcomic. and I think Tracy just kind of did...Track 4[21:11] Not to say he's in this person's ballpark overall as far as SNL,but one thing about Eddie Murphy,when he was a part of that cast that replaced the original people from the firstfive years, a lot of those guys, and I understand, rightfully so,they're replacing the epic first five years. They were scared.They were nervous, all this pressure, the presses on them, and everyone alwayssaid Eddie just had a confidence where he didn't care.He's like, I know I'm good. I'm doing it. And I'm not saying Tracy's Eddie Murphy,but Tracy kind of always gives a confidence of, I know who I am.I don't care what you think. I'm here. I'm ready to go.And I think that's what Tracy kind of really brought. I feel like Lorne andthe others kind of saw in him.He wouldn't be scared of the moment. No, I definitely agree.And Tracy was confident in the material. He's like, I know this is funny.I know my inflection's funny. I just know what's funny about this.And so I'm going to get on screen and show you. So that, yeah,that's such a good point.And I think another element, especially around this time, 96,when Tracy got hired, that fascinates me.It's hard to think about Tracy getting cast around this time,to me, without thinking about SNL's history, somewhat tenuous history with black cast members.Track 4[22:26] So I'm wondering, Jeremy, like, can you talk about the show's history with blackcast members, like up until that point, and even like on?On yeah yeah it's always it's beensomething um i remember when ifirst saw tracy do stand-up comedy was after hehad left snl but people in the crowd wereyelling out like you know brian fellows and everything and hemade the joke that honestly my whole life i heard which is like black peopledon't watch snl except for when eddie murphy was on there right in my wholelife people my own family a lot of said i felt weird because me and my brotherliked it but they were like ohwe don't watch that except for when Eddie Murphy was on and it was always,you saw what happened in the original cast with Garrett Morris and how,you know, he really was neglected and just kind of stereotyped and.Track 4[23:15] Made to just either wear drag or just play this token black.And I think Eddie Murphy, he talked about his struggles and he had those battlestoo, but he was such a star and the show had no stars.So he kind of really emerged and became that guy.But then you see Damon Wayans came and he had struggles and just frustrationsof being that only black voice.Track 4[23:40] And you're seeing a room filled with white people who don't understand you.Not willing to really understand you becausethey're going to go to this performer who they either knowor feel like will get their work over better they're notsitting down trying to understand your comedic sensibility understandyour background and you know you saw that from damonit went to you know chris rock had the same battles and hereally struggled there where everyone here knows chrisrock and legendary stand-up comic but if hewasn't who he became came after SNL no one reallyremembers what Chris Rock did in that time and that'sa glorious time those early 90s of SNL soreally you look at from Eddie Murphy by thetime Tracy comes on there you know Tim Meadows was onbut he you know did his roles andstuff like that but didn't really like stripe it and I feel likenow he gets a little more appreciation forhis time on SNL but I feel like he was kind of like an underrated hecould do a lot of things but minus likeyou know the oj when the oj trial happenedi feel like that kind of helped him out and then the ladies man a little bitbut never really got that shining star treatment that i think tim meadows shouldhave gotten too so i think tracy is really an interesting um i guess like amarker for blacks being on the show where.Track 4[25:05] He still battled it too, and I know we'll talk about that, but he kind of reallyset the stage to me for Kenan, for Leslie Jones, Jay Pharoah.He was that guy to kind of really set the stage for seeing SNL starting to improveon that relationship with Black cast members.Oh, that's really great perspective and well put. And even though we're allSNL fans, love the show, I wouldn't be doing an SNL podcast if I didn't love the show.But there's also in the show's 49-year history stuff that they need to reckon with.You know, this is their treatment of women, their treatment of black cast members,maybe not enough representation.Yeah. Even like as a Latino myself, I always kind of look like about Latinorepresentation as well.I mean, that's just the reality of it and something that I know.You know, SNL, about when Leslie got hired, that's something that they madea conscious effort to get a black woman onto the show.And that was almost spearheaded by Kenan, telling them, you know what,look, you need to hire a black woman.Track 4[26:16] Plenty of qualified black women to do a lot of these roles. You need to get one on the gas.No. Oh, and I think it was shown in the conversations. Like,you look at it when In Living Color came out in the early 90s and just like,okay, then what are we saying here?Like, there's this show on Fox that's reaching this other demographic.And then people are kind of, like, I think kind of trying to say,like, oh, there's not that whole excuse of, well, there's no one to bring on.And it's like, that was a lie. You saw from the Weyans to all these different people.You know, it's funny that Damon Wayans, this great comedic talent,was on Saturday Night Live and was just misused and then becomes an all-timesketch performer on In Living Color, you know, four years later.Like, what's that say to you? Exactly. He was so frustrated on SNL that he sabotaged a sketch. Yeah.The Monopoly Man sketch with John Lovitz. Like, Damon just sort of sabotaged it and he wanted out.Right. Right, and Chris Rock leaves SNL to go to In Living Color because he'slike, hey, that's where my voice will be heard.Now, he picked bad timing because it was the way in –.Track 4[27:26] They left One Living Color, so his timing was off. But the decision to me wascorrect, where it's like, yeah, who's going to get your voice heard and understood?It's like, not Saturday Night Live. And Chris Rock has said there were so manygreat comedic minds from JimDowney, Al Franken, Lorne, and great cast members, great friends of his.But still, he wasn't being represented and wasn't being heard there.Yeah, I think it's an important discussion. and that's whyI think Tracy's one of the many reasons why Tracy's such aninteresting figure to me as far as Tracy goes Jeremy likehow did you get introduced to him how are you like most familiar withTracy was it SNL you see you mentioned his stand-up yeah so he was someone Ibeing you know I know you are too big fan of stand-up comedy you I would seehim on different things and different tapes and stuff like that but honestlyit was Saturday Night Live where it It was like, I was like, oh, that dude.I saw him on like the Apollo doing stand-up and everything.Back when the, you know, Steve Harvey used to host the Apollo and it would air Saturday nights.And I remember seeing Tracy Morgan. And then when I saw him on Saturday NightLive, I was like, oh, that guy.Because like this mid-90s era is when I really started watching SNL live.Track 4[28:40] I would watch the reruns before, but like watching it live was kind of like around 93, 94.So I was really kind of getting into my SNLlike fandom you know the year before and then whenTracy arrived so it was kind of cool to see and ofcourse as a black man when you saw like that other oh they brought on a blackcast member male or female you kind of like oh okay let's see what how theydo and Tracy Tracy in his own way shined through yeah yeah that's awesome soSo we mentioned he started in 96 at SNL was on the show until 2003.What's a we'll dive into it. What's the character sketch that kind of firststicks out to you during Tracy's time?Track 4[29:25] It's one that I kind of, I'll be honest, I didn't really like at first,and a lot of people, like, disagreed with me, like friends, but Brian Fellows is funny.Like, I will give Brian Fellows, and I kind of thought it was,like, overdone and stuff like that, but as I look back on it,and I'm like, you know what, that is, it's classic Tracy.And just the way he does that and just him being this Safari,Brian Fellows, Safari planet and this animal enthusiast, but doesn't have anyidea about any of the animals and always kind of got freaked out by him.And it is really, he's playing Brian Fellows, but in all honesty,it's just different forms of Tracy in all these sketches.That's really funny to me. Our first guest is like a human cactus.Please welcome our porcupine.Track 4[30:16] Ooh, and who are you? I'm Dale Dudley from the Texas Wildlife Sanctuary in Austin. Hello, Austin.Track 4[30:26] No, I'm from the Wildlife Sanctuary in Austin. My name is Dale Dudley. I'm Brian Fellow.Hello, Brian. I want you to meet my porcupine friend. His name is Willie.That rat needs a haircut.So that one and then the classic Christmas band member. I thought, yeah, I loved that.I loved it when it happened. I remember watching it live and loving it.And I still love it to this day when they kind of all got back together likea few years ago to do it. I always loved that.And I love Tracy in it. And just his facial expression always cracked me up.Those are just a couple of the memorable sketches or in moments with Tracy thatI have. I'm glad you brought up Brian Fellow's safari plan at first,and not just because I think this was the most times that he did a character.I think he did it nine times on SNL, so I think that was his most recurring character.But it just, to me, the story behind this just totally encapsulates Tracy's time at SNL and why...Track 4[31:29] He's successful, I think, in a major way.So Norm MacDonald, again, Norm, said that this came about because he and RobertSmigel wrote the Brian Fellows sketch as kind of a rib on Tracy because of theway Tracy would pronounce his S's.Like they wanted to mess with Tracy at the table read and give him somethinghard to read because of how he pronounced stuff.And as far as iknow they did like tracy like norman smigel idon't know like as far as i know yeah yeah smigel sayinganything bad about tracy so i guess itwas all in good fun but i love this becausetracy took something that was supposed to be a jokeon him and turned it into something that was his own andsuper memorable like he's he he basically waslike yeah screw this like in his own little way likethis is supposed to be a rib on me but the joke's onyou because i'm going to make this like a really successful sketch and a characterso that's a big reason why like to me that almost encapsulates big reason whytracy's just successful just in general right he just keeps on yeah and andyou hit on a couple things here which is like,you know rip norm and you know smigel is a great great all-time writer but justlike Like, how messed up that is.Track 4[32:53] And, like, that's a small example of that cultural difference where,like, that wouldn't happen to him on In Living Color.You know what I mean? Or, like, whatever that day's Key and Peele or Chappelleshow, that wouldn't have happened to him.Right. He would have had writers in there who understood, who knew him,like, know his background.They can relate to him. They kind of, like, did it as a spoof.And to your point, Tracy took it. And I think that's what makes Tracy greatis there's just a confidence about him and a no fear kind of mentality.Like because he has that background and I think like, hey, I was out here,you know, selling different items in front of Yankee Stadium a few years ago,you know, just trying to make, you know, $30.So I'm on NBC on Saturday Night Live. What do I have to lose?So he has that kind of fear that was like, all right, you want to like mock it?Fine, let's go. Oh, and he takes it and makes it his most memorable character. Yeah, absolutely.Track 4[33:53] And the sketch itself, his delivery is so great.I think the just genius part about it is Tracy does these characters and hehas this delivery to where it seems like it's an accident.It seems like he's not putting a lot into it, but it's by design.A lot of his inflection, his timing, him being amped up Tracy Morgan,it's by design because he knows that that's going to get the laughs.He knows how to pull laughs from people. Like Brian Fellowes.Track 4[34:26] Just how he pauses or how somebody will say their name on the show and thenhow he'll pause and say, he'll say, well, I'm Brian Fellow.Track 4[34:35] Tracy knows that that pause and then his kind of shoulder shake,the delivery is going to pull the laugh.So it seems like he makes it look so easy and natural, but it's just by designbecause Tracy has that comedic mind.I always was entertained by the Brian Fellow Safari planet because of that.No, and to me, like you said, it was by design. It's just that inflection.But what he did, which I feel like Chris Rock didn't do, and I think a lot ofthe people who were stand-ups on the show before him didn't do,is when you're not an improv person who knows how to do that,like working with others and different characters and acting,a lot of times they say if you're on SNL as a stand-up, it's best to be on aweekend update or have a solo thing where you're on a show.You're looking in camera and kind of doing your own thing, almost like you'redoing standup and Chris rock didn't really figure that out. Right.But I think Tracy, when you have like, you know, he would have a guest on, but from Brian fellows,astronaut Jones, different things, he kind of found his lane and kind of pokedand reconstructed like improv and sketch by doing this, these individual charactersthat really highlighted his sensibility.Yeah. And with astronaut Jones again, like he made it look like,Oh, oh, that's just Tracy playing himself.Track 4[35:57] But he just knew his delivery. Maybe there's danger.He knew how to tap into just how to say something.That one in particular, Ashton Jones, is almost like anti-comedy in a way.There's a big old theme song.Track 4[36:38] The sketch itself is anticlimactic. Oh, yeah.But that's like a lot of anti-comedy. And then Tracy just has to do like just a few little things.I'm just, the Britney Spears astronaut Jones is the one that I always went back to.My name is Craig Ellera. I'm the queen of Orpheoleans. A proud and peace-lovingrace. My people have been awaiting your arrival for some time now.We're in desperate need of your help. The Galaxians have besieged our citiesand plundered our riches. What?Say what? Right. Dig. Uh-huh. Right.Well, why don't you drop out of that green jumpsuit and show me that fat ass?Track 4[37:25] It's like a one-joke thing, but it's like anti-comedy in a way, but that's just like,you brought up such a good point, Jeremy, me earlier abouttracy's just a different funny personhe's like that got the your friend at the lunch table yourfriend who just makes you you should read the phone book and crackyou up and things like astronaut jones arelike a perfect example to me no for sure actuallyand you you nailed it on what makes that you know that because i rememberthat britney spears and it was almost what was funnywas just a dichotomy of having britney and tracy togetherand it's like the odd couple effect waslike that cracked you up just being like britney spearsand tracy morgan like having even though like it's scripted andstuff but like having a conversation it just was odd but like itwas that alone made you laugh but i remember um i think it was season 25 andjamie fox was the host and it was a time where uh it was like you know in betweenwe're like you know jamie's walking and tracy's like oh what's up jamie what'sup man he goes i'm glad we got some some brothers on the show,and Jamie's like, oh, yeah, yeah.Because Tracy's like, yo, these writers don't understand me.They don't get me or that dude with the white hair.And Jamie's like, you mean Lorne Michaels?Track 4[38:38] He's like, I don't know, whatever. He's like, he's your boss.He's like, yeah, he's just always saying weird stuff and doing weird things.And he's like, I'm going to be on the show a lot this week with you here,and we're going to take over. Revolution will be televised.And Jamie's like, yeah, you know, he kind of looks all quiet,like he's sneaking something.He's like, you're right, man, we're going to take over. I got mad lines,man, and this week I'm blowing up the spot.That's what I'm saying. All right, come on, let's go. We're in the middle ofa show. Okay? Yeah, yeah, all right.Jamie? Give me a soda, bitch!Track 4[39:16] Okay all right but it was one ofmy favorite tracy morgan moments because he just just thatline get me a soda like he just nailedit bitch yeah yeah bitch and lauren just goes okaylike i'm like that was great that was like that dangerousaspect of tracy i always love likehe's he's like one of the only ones that could pull that offconvincingly quite honestly we're inseason 49 and i think the current cast ismissing someone like that for sure if they tryto do a backstage and like i wouldn't andrews music is myfavorite cast member currently i don't think hecould pull that off convincingly james austin johnson idon't think keenan can it's not in keenan's nature necessarilyto like pull that off convincingly they don't havesomeone currently like tracy morgan thatadds that kind of unpredictability danger thisbackstage stage stuff with lauren that he did he because he did that a fewtimes the garth brooks one was another yes funny oneto me when he was talking to garth brooks and he was like manthat chris gaines i don't know like uh you're doinga great job garth but like what's up with that chris gaines guy and whateverand then lauren comes to talks to tracy and and he's like hey tracy you knowand then tracy's like no i know i know i know garth is chris gaines i know thatso it's almost like yeah yeah like a turnabout like he's just telling laurenlike i know that you like you got to give Give me some credit.Track 4[40:37] And then I don't know if it was this one or another one where all he has todo is look at Lauren and Lauren goes, orange soda, right? Yeah.Track 4[40:47] So credit to Lauren for playing along. But Tracy's the only one or one of thefew, I think, over the last 25 years or so that could pull something off likethat convincingly. And I think you're right.And it's not a knock on cast members past or present. you said Kenan's greatthat's just not who he is and the people who were on with Tracy that's not who they were like.Track 4[41:13] You can't find like you can't teach that what tracyhad like just like it just comes fromit's part natural part upbringing inyour experiences but like i i alwaysthink about something um jim brewertold a story uh i forget what radioshow he was on but he talks about you knowhim and tracy kind of were high around the same time and itwas the week that you know tragically like when farley cameand hosted and how he was just not in not ingood good shape and uh marcyhe said marcy went to because he was not doingwell during the week and not showing up and was not all thereso he was trying to hang out withlike different people in the cast and jim brewer's like me andtracy weren't doing that but then like marcy andpeople were looking at those to and kind of putit on them like oh you two must be getting chris into troubleand so they said marcy went intolike the office talked to jim and tracy and waslike you two need to stay away from chris so doall these things and like leave him alone and jim brewerwas like you know i'm new so i got nervous and scared andhe said credit to tracy he said tracy stood upand said i'm a grown man with children's you can't talk tome that way i got children's you ain't gonna talk tome like that and he was like but credit to him he's likehe's i didn't do nothing i'm a grown man with children's andi'm like yeah and jim brewer said andi'm like right like he was like no new or not you're not going to come in and.Track 4[42:43] Accuse me something i didn't do and disrespect me i'm gonna stick up for myself.Track 4[42:46] And jim brewer's like he got courage from seeing tracy to be like yeah we didn'tdo anything we didn't take chris out we're not the bad influences here don'tyell at us but that But Tracy was new,and him doing that to Marcy, who's a high-up person,that shows the kind of courage he came in with.Well, yeah, that's that thing where you were right.You alluded to, I mean, he was selling things outside of Yankee Stadium justa few years back, and now he's on SNL. He made it.Track 4[43:18] He's making that salary. That's why he said during a...When he was going to his audition, he was confident because he was like,I shouldn't even be here.The fact that I'm in this last audition, I got nothing to lose.I'm going to go in here and just show my stuff and just be confident.That's just how he carried himself. He's almost like, I shouldn't be here.I already won. The fact that I'm in this room, I already won,so I'm not going to compromise myself and stand down to Marcy Klein or something like when she comes in.Track 4[43:52] And tries to yell at us for something that we didn't do, especially.That just speaks a lot to how Tracy even got to the show. Right.No, for sure. For sure. It just kind of shows, especially by the time you getto the 90s and on, even before then, but that is the goal of so many improv actors.Whether you're at Second City or the Groundlings or whatever,is to make it to Saturday Night Live.That's the goal. So then, of course, no matter how talented you are,if you're on that level and trying to get to SNL, if you get there,you're going to be, especially early on, nervous.And I'm not knocking anyone, but scared because this was your dream.This is the big time SNL. I can make it here.I can maybe be a movie star or a TV star from here.So then you're trying to kiss up to the writers and the big time producers.Juicers i think it was an advantage for a guy like tracymorgan you know same like it was for eddie back in theearly 80s that wasn't his they were stand up likethat wasn't their goal and it was just like all right like we know what it'slike to be in front of this crowd on our own and having to make someone laughand when i come here like i'm not intimidated by this stage i made it the factthat i'm already here i made it here let's go what's the worst that could happen to me Yeah,that speaks to why we're even talking about him right now and why he...Track 4[45:18] Resonates as such a fan favorite because it'shis personality it's kind of the vibe that thatTracy gives off that that compel peopleto watch that draw people to him and it comes through in the sketches and hisand his work on SNL for sure like I have a bunch of example I don't know ifyou remember this one it's toward the end if it's like his second to last seasonand he and Rachel Dratch had a it was a one-off thing it was a talking to thestars with Rachel and Tracy and they were talking to Jon Stewart.All right, well, hosting an awards show of that caliber must be quite stressful.Y'all like to get high, right?Track 4[45:59] Uh, no, no, I don't. What? Get real, Dratch.I've been backstage at those awards shows, man. The Source Awards was like Weed City, bruh.Come on, tell me. Y'all like to get lifted, right? Uh, lifted.Lifted um i find if tracy says aword that i don't know it usually means hi oh okay andthis showed like that loose loose canon element oftracy and just like how tracy mightbe if you're just hanging out with him and the bit was like thatrachel dratch is taking the interview with john store.Track 4[46:32] Very seriously she has her cards and she'sasking him questions and tracy's just being tracy he'sjust goofing around he's ribbing dratch he's asking johnstore inappropriate questions ends and that's justlike the vibe like that that one uh thatsketch with with rachel dratch like that perfectly encapsulatesjust that whole vibe to me darren likelike there's a reason like i heard you kind of breakinto a tracy morgan voice like there's areason why people want to like imitate tracy soi'm gonna take you outside and get you pregnant like peoplejust want to get you you pregnant doodoo pampasyeah jay moore does a great there's a great oh yeahbut uh there's a reason why peoplejust want to imitate him and love him and want toimitate his mannerisms and the way he you know because hejust gives off that like vibe yeah there'ssomething that he has that is rare thatsometimes it's more valuable than if you're the most polished orthe best the best writer or the best you know setupguy and you you can see it with certain peopleand you know pop culture even like in politics there'scertain people who have they just have a likability that comes through the screenand people just you like no matter what they might even portray the worst charactersthat are you know they're delivering bad news but you know what people justreally like this person and i think tracy even in that sketch with rachel dratch.Track 4[48:00] You just like Tracy Morgan. I think a lot of us fans just always liked him andgravitated toward him, which is why then and now, for those years,for that era, you hear Will Ferrell, Sherry O'Terry,Molly Shannon, but you're going to hear Tracy Morgan being mentioned too.To me, not just because of what he's done post-SNL, just talking about thatera SNL, for as he wasn't someone who was always used, I think it's incrediblethat we still talk about that era in the show's history,and one of the first names we're going to talk about is Tracy Morgan.Track 4[48:35] Yeah, yeah, right. That's why this is probably a different feeling episode,even for the SNL Hall of Fame, which is fitting to me with Tracy Morgan.He was just a different feeling kind of cast member, just a different dude that we all love.You had mentioned his stand-up, and I've seen a little bit of it.How would you describe his stand-up comedy? buthe raw and all over the place i'veseen him twice and i'll be honest the first time wasat i was at temple university um andhe was about an hour and a half late and hecame out and he seemed unprepared hehad some funny lines just because tracy's funnybut he seemed unprepared and it was kind of like underwhelmingi'll be honest okay i went a couple years later andsaw him new york in New York at a comedy club and heseemed much he was still that like we talked aboutthat raw like danger feel but likehe was more prepared he was on time and he was a lot better as a stand-up comedyso he it's almost in a way what he brings to SNL he still brings to stand-upwhich is I would never say Tracy's like number one stand-up of all time butI would tell anyone like would Would you like,should I buy a ticket to see Tracy Morgan do state? I would say,yeah, because you're going to laugh.Track 4[49:56] You're going to have a good time because of all the things we're talking about.He's just charisma, that sense of danger. You don't know what he's going to say.He doesn't care. He's not afraid of being canceled or not afraid of like someonefrom the crowd may shout something.Track 4[50:10] He's not like worried about that. He's going to fire right back or go along with it.You're going to be entertained and you're going to end up liking him.If you don't know him or you're not sure, you're going to like Tracy.So it's that same kind of vibe.Same vibe. So there's a sense of danger when he does stand-up.But maybe it's a little more chaotic because he doesn't have Lauren or SteveHiggins or Marcy Klein or the censors on him.But similar vibes. Yeah, that's how I felt with some of the stand-up that I'veseen just on YouTube or going back and watching some of bits and pieces of hisspecials or whatever. Yeah.Uh just some quick hitters too from SNL like probably some stuff that a lotof people would remember Dominican Lou.I love to watch the movies the Sling Blade, the Eddie Maguire and the English Pages.It's a good movie a lot of people they enjoy this movie they love to see itthey love to see the Tom Cruise it's very good for them they like it.Track 4[51:18] What was your favorite part of the movie i don't knowi didn't see it i have notime i'm working all the time you know but ihear it's a good movie it's a good movie people in the building they're talkingabout it a lot they love the movie they like to see the movie all the time they'retalking about it oh hell yeah he did three times i love dominican lou becauseit was like Like, Dominican Lou was this, it was a perfect,like, it's a very specific archetype of a person.It's the person who wants to be part of the conversation, but they haven't really,like, lived it themselves.So, Dominican Lou's always like, yeah, like, this thing was good.I hear everybody talking about it. So, he's not really giving his opinion.He's saying that, like, I heard people in the building talk about it.So, it's like this person who really wants to be part of the conversation.They want to be clued in. but they don't have like the firsthand experiencethemselves so they only have a certain amount of,like i said firsthand experience to go off of so he's always like living vicariouslythrough others yeah and he's fine with it yeah you know what you just said somethingthat and maybe i don't know how people will react to this but.Track 4[52:31] When it comes to, like, you look at, like, the legacy of a Dan Aykroyd,one of the things people talk about is the everyday, everyman characters thathe brought to, you know, sketch comedy and Saturday Night Live.That, like, blue-collar guy that everyone knows, but you didn't really see on,you know, sketch and on TV yet, like, being portrayed that way.And I'm wondering, I feel like Tracy Morgan, even though he has some outrageouscharacters, some of his characters kind of—he kind of brought that, too, where—.Track 4[53:01] But not like his main one, not like Brian Fellows or anything,but like Dominican Lou and some other ones like that, where it's like, you know that guy.Yeah. You know that guy, and it was the kind of representation you weren't reallyseeing on Saturday Night Live before.I think you're absolutely right. I see a little bit of that,too, in his Woodrow character.Yes. Obviously, it's like a heightened kind of thing, but I mean,you've come across someone like that.Mm-hmm. And I can see that. And the commonality, too, is like there's some heartunderneath there, too, because somebody like Woodrow, even Brian Fellows,like I root for him. Yeah. He's likable.And we had brought up Britney Spears with the Astronaut Jones,but it was like Britney Spears and Woodrow had had she did a Woodrow sketchwith him and they went they were hanging out in the sewer and having a little conversation.And there's something about how tracy portrayed woodrowwho's this uh he's a homeless gentleman yeahan eccentric homeless gentleman who told britney spears that uh that he hasthe the post office box down there because the because that's where they werehaving keeping secrets on him so he stole it and put it down in the sewer sohe says kind of goofy stuff like that but But there's a lot of human quality.There's a lot of humanity in a character like that. I think it's easy for Tracyto bring that humanity, I think, too.Track 4[54:31] And I kind of wonder, because you mentioned... I know that episode,and I remember all the sketches.Those were two different episodes, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,okay, they're two different ones. I'm wondering, do you think...Track 4[54:45] Britney Spears kind of requested to be with Tracy in some sketches, you think?Or something because it's like, Britney Spears, I mean, people still,I think, know how big she is.But at that point, she's like, you can make a case like the hottest star outthere is Britney Spears.It's not Will Ferrell in these weird ones. It's Tracy Morgan doing these things.So I'm just like, I wonder if Britney was a fan or it could have been the writersjust thinking that's an odd couple pairing.But it's interesting. now that's a good thought so she did thewoodrow one with him in season 25 at the end of season 25and she came back in season 27 that's where they did the astronaut jones andif you watch re-watch the astronaut jones sketch at the end when he says hislike famous when he says his famous line as astronaut jones oh why don't youdrop out of that green jumpsuit and show me that fat ass.Track 4[55:38] When he says that you could see britney laughand i don't know or she's like smiled and i don't know ifthat was supposed to happen like the character because ifshe was supposed to be this robotic alien but when tracysays that you see britney crack a smile at the end and then they go to the themeto the ending credits for the sketch i kind of do think that britney likes tracyand enjoyed and enjoyed working working with him that's like that's a good thoughtman that's It's something that's a good thing to pick up.Yeah, I was just like, because it's just not, for all the people who were onSNL at the time, it's like you could have put a lot of people with Britney Spears,but it's very memorable. So, yeah, I was just wondering, yeah.Yeah, no, I love that. One of my other favorite ones, one of my last favoriteones is Uncle Jemima's Pure Mash Liquor. Yes, yes.Classic. I love the concept of Aunt Jemima's husband having his own product.And he even says in the commercial, like, they asked me, like,why mash liquor? And he's like, well, sell what you know.And I know, like, so Tracy's whole delivery of this sketch was just so greatto hear me. Oh, it was classic.Track 4[56:46] Now she says that selling booze is degrading to our people.I always say that black folk ain't exactly swelling up with pride on accountof you flipping Framjack.Ain't I right, Sammy? Listen, don't get me in this mess. Then she say,but why booze? I said, sell what you know.And I know about booze.Uncle Jemima's Pure Man Snicker has a 95% alcohol content, and that's per volume.Track 4[57:15] What the hell does that mean? That means you get up for less money.And that might be my low-key favorite one.Track 4[57:26] Great like you said like just who wouldhave thought about that like to like you know everyone and jemimaand how controversial and jemima can be looked on and for him to kind of goin there and do like her husband and kind of doing that like you know i getno respect and i gotta sell something to here and don't forget about me feelit was just classic tracy morgan i'm like that's it's a genius character honestlyyeah it's great they only did it one time i would have led to see Uncle Jemima pop up,even more and he has those cartoon birds around him andhe's swatting at them and then at the end Tim Meadows calls itout he's like what are you swatting at he asked him that's hilarious I forgotyep that's so good yeah that's so good that's from season 25 Uncle Jemima'sPure Mash Liquor yeah that was awesome is there anything else like well I thinkthis was after his tenure but,you know everyone I know is excited for the,the big SNL 50th celebration and, you know, how epic the S the 40th was,but Tracy had had that accident that, you know, his friend tragically passed away.And a lot of people thought Tracy, you know, weren't sure if he was going to survive that accident.And Tracy was absent from SNL 40.And I know Alec Baldwin and Tina Fey gave, he had a special little segment wherethey gave shout out to him. And I thought how even in the moment then and even more like now I.Track 4[58:53] How big that was that a lot of times, you know, it's sad, but that those kindof things go to like the cast members or people who have passed away.And Tracy wasn't hadn't passed. He was, you know, just injured.Track 4[59:04] But like he had that kind of lore and Alec Baldwin, you know,did a great impression of him, too.And that part, you know, was dead on. Actually, I was really good by Alec Baldwin.But in that moment, it kind of hit me like, yeah, that was somebody who wasso missing from that celebration.Inspiration and I'm like yeah I wish Tracy Tracy wouldhave been so good in that sketch or in that thinglike oh but awesome but just also like theimpact that Tracy made that for at that
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Ever had your email hacked and felt oddly grateful for it? John Mulaney has! In his signature witty style, he shares his unique experience with email viruses, the people they bring together, and how they're somewhat like having a baby. But that's not all! Mulaney also dives deep into the bizarre world of 'Back To The Future,' questioning Marty McFly's peculiar bonds and time-traveling adventures. Intrigued?Head over to foqnfunny.com to laugh your socks off with more of Mulaney's hilarious insights! Love what you're hearing on FOQN Funny? Go a step further and become a member of FOQN Funny+. Enjoy exclusive perks and never-ending laughter. Join now at: https://plus.acast.com/s/foqn-funny. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
John Mulaney takes a hilarious detour into the world of organ donation and romantic comedies. Inspired by the story of Jerry Orbach donating his eyes, Mulaney pitches a movie about two New Yorkers who find love after receiving transplants of the legendary actor's eyes. The episode is filled with Mulaney's signature wit and observations on love, loss, and the power of television. Want more hilarious takes from sharp comedians? Visit foqnfunny.com for comedy gold. Love what you're hearing on FOQN Funny? Go a step further and become a member of FOQN Funny+. Enjoy exclusive perks and never-ending laughter. Join now at: https://plus.acast.com/s/foqn-funny. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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John Mulaney recently sat down with Deadline to discuss his thoughts on his show, the intervention it was based on, and much moreIn the interview, Mulaney opens up about his detox experience and how it led to the creation of his dark but incredibly funny comedy special. He reveals that he even ranked the speeches delivered during the intervention, showcasing his unique humor even in such a serious situation.One interesting aspect Mulaney mentions is how some people viewed his special as darker than he initially intended. He wanted to present a joke-driven special that tackled complex and sad topics, but he never expected it to be perceived as so dark. Regardless, he's flattered and appreciative that people are engaging in deep discussions about it.Now, let's talk about that suit! Mulaney was asked about the fuchsia suit he wore during the special, and he hilariously admits to not being a great color person. After looking up fuchsia, he describes it as a vivid pinkish purplish red color, but adds that it could be seen differently depending on individual color settings. Moving on, Mulaney receives compliments on his athletic build, even as an addict. He admits that nobody has ever said that to him before, and he finds it amusing considering the unhealthy means he employed to maintain his physique during the pandemic. Jaosn Zinoman looked at the talented comedians featured in the new showcases on Netflix. The likes of Dulce Sloan, Nimesh Patel, Rosebud Baker, Gianmarco Soresii, and more are mentioned. It looks like Netflix has compiled a fantastic lineup, carefully selecting fresh and seasoned performers that will make you laugh till your sides hurt.Shifting gears, Kathy Griffin's perspective on owning her own material. Griffin expresses excitement for her legacy after passing away and anticipates receiving more recognition once away from this world. She fondly recalls her show, "My Life on the D List," and the impact it had on fans. It was genuine, real, and something that people can't seem to forget.As the interview wraps up, Griffin shares some invaluable advice for new comics approached to do specials. She stresses the importance of gaining licensing money and the power it provides. Griffin acknowledges the challenges faced by female comedians in a male-dominated industry but encourages aspiring artists to take control of their own content whenever possible.Marlon Wayans discusses cancel culture, emphasizing his unwavering support for artists and his respect for Dave Chappelle. Tom Segura chimes in, shedding light on the stark contrast between social media outrage and the real-world reactions he witnesses as a touring comic. He highlights the importance of audience understanding and intent in delivering jokes that can touch even sensitive subjects.Go to TODAY TIX dot com slash dcn and use promo code dcn to get twenty dollars off your first TodayTix purchase! Support the show! Join the $2 Club! at Buy Me A Coffee: www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews www.linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/dcnpod - join us to to discuss comedy and your favorite comedians. YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/@dailycomedynews?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram is @dailycomedynews https://www.instagram.com/dailycomedynews/?hl=en Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/dailycomedynews/ Web version at www.dailycomedynews.com Twitter X is @dcnpod because the person with what I want tweeted once Email: john at thesharkdeck dot com Daily Comedy News commentary includes satire and parody. Daily Comedy News is a production of Caloroga Shark Media, the leading company in short form daily podcastsThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4522158/advertisement
In this extended interview, comedian John Mulaney thanks Stephen for the support and encouragement our host provided during an incredibly challenging time. The affection these two performers have for each other is evident as Mulaney tells Colbert what he learned about himself in recovery, how happy his life is now, and what he did to convince David Byrne to score his new comedy album, “Baby J” (Original Air Date: October 12th, 2023). The Late Show and Late Show Pod Show will be running repeats this week while Stephen recovers from surgery for a ruptured appendix. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dave Chappelle, renowned comedian and actor, made an unexpected appearance on Capitol Hill recently, when he posed for a selfie with Representatives Lauren Boebert and Anna Luna. The photograph, shared by Boebert on social media, shows Chappelle casually chatting with the congresswomen in the halls of Congress. Boebert's caption, "Just three people who understand there's only two genders," added a humorous touch to the moment. Luna also tweeted the same photo and expressed her excitement at running into the comedy legend.Johnny Mac used AI for today's show notes because his dog woke him up at 4am and he's falling asleep.In other comedy news, Matt Reif, a rising star in the comedy scene, recently performed in Santa Rosa. The show had its fair share of controversy, as Reif addressed some offensive jokes from his Netflix special. However, he assured the audience that these jokes were not reflective of his real feelings or based on actual circumstances.There's an exciting documentary coming to Netflix on December 12th. "Kevin Hart and Chris Rock Headliners Only" takes viewers on a journey through the lives and careers of these two comedy icons. The documentary features interviews with other renowned comedians such as Jerry Seinfeld, Wanda Sykes, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle, and Tiffany Haddish, providing a comprehensive look at the world of comedy. John Mulaney, known for his honest and introspective comedy, opened up about his recent stint in rehab and the challenges he faced during that period. Mulaney explained that he felt the need to address his experiences in a comedic way, aiming to make people laugh while shedding light on addiction and personal growth. The comedian also discussed his fear of crossing the line and being perceived as too harsh, considering the diverse audience he attracts.Amy Schumer, another prominent figure in the comedy industry, is set to star in and produce "Kinda Pregnant." This upcoming project follows Lainey, played by Schumer, who becomes envious of her best friend's pregnancy and starts wearing a fake baby bump, only to stumble upon the man of her dreams.Meanwhile, popular comedian Nicole Byer has teamed up with Destination Canada to create "Canadian Crash Course," a virtual course designed to help travelers gain confidence in navigating winter activities like skiing, cold plunges, and ice skating in Canada. Byer's energetic hosting style and humorous approach make the course not only informative but also entertaining.Gianmarco Seresi shared his experiences touring Europe, noting the audience's understanding of history, including sensitive subjects like the Holocaust. Seresi highlighted the differences in humor preferences between European and American audiences, with Europeans being more keen on dark humor and self-deprecating jokes.Lastly, Kat Timpf, known for her satirical and tongue-in-cheek approach to politics, discussed the importance of comedy in addressing sensitive subjects. Timpf emphasized that humor allows for healing and conversation, even if some jokes may not resonate with everyone. She also touched on the challenges of being a comedian in today's politically charged climate and shared her personal experience of facing backlash for making lighthearted remarks about Star Wars.The world of comedy is always evolving, and these stories reflect the diverse range of topics, talents, and controversies within the industry. From unexpected encounters on Capitol Hill to comedians discussing their personal journeys, there's never a dull moment in the world of comedy.Support the show! Join the $2 Club! at Buy Me A Coffee: www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews www.linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/dcnpod - join us to to discuss comedy and your favorite comedians. YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/@dailycomedynews?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram is @dailycomedynews https://www.instagram.com/dailycomedynews/?hl=en Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/dailycomedynews/ Web version at www.dailycomedynews.com Twitter X is @dcnpod because the person with what I want tweeted once Email: john at thesharkdeck dot com Daily Comedy News commentary includes satire and parody. Daily Comedy News is a production of Caloroga Shark Media, the leading company in short form daily podcastsThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4522158/advertisement
Renowned comedian Ricky Gervais has recently ventured into the world of spirits as the co-owner of Ella's Farm Distillery. The famous distillery is known for its Dutch Barn Orchard Vodka, made from British apples while prioritizing sustainability and ecosystem protection. Ricky's involvement in the business aims to boost its growth and promote its unique qualities to a global audience. With his genuine passion for eco-friendly businesses and love for a good drink, this partnership seems like a perfect match! Comedian Bert Kreischer is expanding his horizon beyond stand-up with a scripted series and multiple film projects in the works. From his recent experience filming "The Machine," Bert realized his passion for acting and the desire to become a movie star. With his production company, Birdie Boy Productions, he aims to bring his ideas to life and draw inspiration from role models like Kevin Hart. One exciting concept is the "two bears racing team," which could potentially become a thrilling TV program.John Mulaney recently shared his thoughts on addiction and revealed how Matthew Perry's death has affected him. Mulaney emphasizes the importance of understanding the fragile nature of life and how addiction can destabilize it.Patton Oswalt, the award-winning actor, comedian, and author, is all set to host the 71st Annual Golden Reel Awards.Things Sebastian Maniscalco likes.Amy Poehler, known for her exceptional comedic talents, is now sharing her wisdom through a masterclass on improv. In her class, "Prepare to be Unprepared,"Angela Johnson Reyes and Fortune Feimster believe that stand-up comedy is thriving now more than ever. Support the show! Join the $2 Club! at Buy Me A Coffee: www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews www.linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/dcnpod - join us to to discuss comedy and your favorite comedians. YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/@dailycomedynews?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram is @dailycomedynews https://www.instagram.com/dailycomedynews/?hl=en Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/dailycomedynews/ Web version at www.dailycomedynews.com Twitter X is @dcnpod because the person with what I want tweeted once Email: john at thesharkdeck dot com Daily Comedy News commentary includes satire and parody. Daily Comedy News is a production of Caloroga Shark Media, the leading company in short form daily podcastsThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4522158/advertisement
The House GOP is reportedly considering a temporary 90-day speaker, Rep. George Santos refuses to resign, and the former president made a bold prediction for 2024. In this EXTENDED INTERVIEW, comedian John Mulaney thanks Stephen for the support and encouragement our host provided during an incredibly challenging time. The affection these two performers have for each other is evident as Mulaney tells Colbert what he learned about himself in recovery, how happy his life is now, and what he did to convince David Byrne to score his new comedy album, “Baby J.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Thursday, October 5, 2023 - Guest: comedian Dan Levy From Whitney, Mulaney, The Goldbergs and The Dan Levy Show, writer-producer-comedian-Porsche 992-driver Dan Levy is here to talk cars, GVBC & what got him into the crazy business of stand-up comedy. We also find out he and J were born at the same hospital. So… it's another Chris Farley show. PLUS: MS Awareness month with New Life of Old Nicole and what do we think of the new Porsche models released both at Rennsport and downtown LA last night? Driving into the weekend tonight, thanks for being here
Good morning, afternoon, and evening! No one's in the chair right now, so why not come grab a shave from your old pal Sweeney? As a new season of the year approaches, so too does a new cast recording of a Broadway classic, starring none other than the man with the golden pipes, Josh Groban. But how does he compare to the Sweeneys of old? Join Gibby, Kaylie, and special guest host Ian as they explore the tale of the Demon Barber of Fleet Street through the ages! Also included: CSI: Miami, an old Mulaney bit, and so much more!
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Luke and Andrew dig into the fake, A.I.-generated mini-episode of TBTL that was created by listener Seth. They also get updates on Luke's missing UPS package, the child who appears in John Mulaney's comedy special, and Dennis Franz's derriere.
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