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Erin and Paul review another crop of new movies, including the latest Shah Rukh Khan blockbuster, Randall Park's directorial debut and a pair of indie sci-fi dramas. Plus: WILD HEARTS CAN'T BE BROKEN, THE PANIC IN NEEDLE PARK, THE LADIES MAN and O. HENRY'S FULL HOUSE.
In the second installment of our Stand-Up Film Festival we discuss the underrated Scorsese film, The King Of Comedy. Rupert Pupkin, a delusional and threatening comedian is desperate to make it big and goes to uncomfortable lengths to befriend Jerry Langford and gets a spot on his nightly talk show. Great discussion! Enjoy!
Jeff, Virgil and Mark chat with Mike Weatherford, author of the new DRIVE-IN KINGS OF 1977 comic book series about 70s Drive-In memories, being a Las Vegas entertainment reporter, Jerry Lewis, comics, Kickstarter and more! Recorded 9/13/23 Follow DRIVE-IN KING OF 1977 on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090057309258 To help fund Issue #2: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/driveinkings1977/drive-in-kings-of-1977-2?fbclid=IwAR1EJkz3ajgxy4yW_mNsSU7WWOh5FVXG6vtLETzVGpUbEeULUf3EVN959Uw For exclusive additional podcasts, videos, sneak peeks, and on-site discounts, visit the Mahoning Drive-In Patreon page at: https://www.patreon.com/mahoningdrivein https://www.mahoningdit.com/ https://www.facebook.com/mahoningdriveintheater/ https://www.instagram.com/mahoningdriveintheater/ https://twitter.com/mahoningdit --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mahoningdrivein/message
I'm preparing for my 5th-level Black Belt test. As part of the test, we have to create and perform a series of movements - with or without weapons - to show the Grandmaster and test board that we're capable at this level. Oh, and it has to be 100% unique and created from scratch. So this is high-stakes stuff. I know I need to come up with something that I've never done before. Ideas start coming to me and I dismiss them one by one, like train cars passing by. Then, it hits me! I'm a storyteller and an Improv performer. Even though this is a Martial Arts test, I need to tell a story that's never been told before. Now, this is already an unusual approach since most martial artists aren't thinking about going to the mat to tell a story. Yet in my case, it needs to happen because this is how I think and who I am. I come up with a fantastic narrative. I'm in Tokyo enjoying my tea when I go over to the window. Suddenly, intruder after intruder comes through it and attacks me! I started doing all types of maneuvers, using household items around me as weapons to disarm and dispose of the invaders. In the end, it's just me sipping on my glass of tea with all this carnage on the floor around me. And while I can't prove it, I swear I see a little moisture in the Grandmaster's eyes… and he normally doesn't show his emotions. And that's the power of a great story. You know you've done good when your audience can feel what you (or the characters in your story) feel. And that brings me to my special guest today, Sarah Jenkins, who is a master at bringing comedic stories to life without saying a word. In this episode of the Storytelling School Podcast, you'll learn how she does it through choreography and imagery and get answers to questions like: What makes comedic short-form storytelling so special? Why does harder not equate to being better in story form? How can you know why an organic joke (not written on the page) lands for an audience or not? And what kind of mistake should you avoid that a lot of storytellers and speakers make? What you will learn in this episode: What it means to be “in service of the joke” in comedic storytelling Why the steps you take as you tell your story don't matter What has to be in your story to make it memorable and effective Who is Sarah? Sarah Marie Jenkins is a California native residing in NYC. She has been dance captain and associate choreographer for numerous shows, as well as the choreographer for Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt on Netflix, Mr. Mayor on NBC, and Girls 5 Eva on Peacock. Recently, she starred as Peter Pan in the first ever remounting of Jerome Robbins Broadway at the MUNY, as well as in the Cathy Rigby version of the show (as her successor). Before that, Sarah was seen as Jennyanydots in the revival of CATS on Broadway. She has also been on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Law & Order: SVU, and performed on the Today Show and Bonnie Hunt Show. Her national tours and musical work include Legally Blonde, Peter Pan with Cathy Rigby, Guys & Dolls, Swing!, Can-Can, Honeymoon in Vegas, and The Nutty Professor (directed by Jerry Lewis). When she's not working on the stage or screen, Sarah has a successful photography business specializing in headshots for actors of all ages. Links and Resources: @SarahMJenkins on Instagram @SarahJenkinsPhoto on Instagram Storytelling School Website @storytellingschool on Instagram @storytellingSchool on Facebook
TVC 622.1: Part 2 of a conversation that began last week with Georgiana “Noopy” Rodrigues, daughter of legendary singer, actress, and comedienne Rose Marie. This past Tuesday, Aug. 15 marked the 100th birthday of Rose Marie; to mark the occasion, Sepia Records, along with the Rose Marie estate, have just released Rose Marie Sings: The Complete Mercury Recordings and More, a collection of twenty-nine classic recordings and rarities that include some of Rose Marie's favorite show tunes, standards, and novelty songs—all available on CD for the very first time. Topics this segment include how Frank Sinatra learned that Rose Marie was pregnant with Noopy even before her father, trumpeter Bobby Guy, knew, and the crucial role that Jerry Lewis played in overseeing the medical care of Bobby Guy after Guy had been diagnosed with a blood infection. Want to advertise/sponsor our show? TV Confidential has partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle advertising/sponsorship requests for the podcast edition of our program. They're great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email firstname.lastname@example.org or click the link below to get started: https://www.advertisecast.com/TVConfidentialAradiotalkshowabout Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It's not very often that you get the chance to talk with someone who's collaborated with & performed for the likes of Sting, Jerry Lewis, Ice T, Fergie, and Jeff Goldblum so when that opportunity comes up, you take it! My guest for this episode of the podcast is Las Vegas entertainer, Melody Sweets! You may recognize Melody from her time as "the Green Fairy" in Spiegelworld's Absinthe (a role she originated & performed for over 6 years), one her production show at the Roman Plaza at Caesars Palace, or you might have seen her photos in one of the dozens of places they've appeared (including Las Vegas Magazine, the New York Times, and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition). Melody jumped on the show to have a conversation about her latest project, a new web series called Sweets' Spot featuring "Baking, Boobies...and One Evil Donut". We talked about Melody's life pre-Vegas and what brought her to the city, the evolution of Sweets' Spot from a live show in NYC to the video series it now, the future of the series, and much more! Watch all 6 episodes of Season 1 of Sweets' Spot online now at sweetsspottv.com, learn more about Melody - including her music & live appearances - on her official website, and be sure to follow her on X (formerly Twitter) and Instagram! __________________________________________________________________________ Become a Jeff Does Vegas Insider today for only $5 USD/month & enjoy all kinds of cool perks like early access to new episodes, commercial-free versions of EVERY episode, invites to exclusive live streams & videos, insider-only virtual hangouts and even real-life in-person hangouts IN Las Vegas! Sign up NOW at patreon.com/jeffdoesvegas __________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Does Vegas is an official Vegas.com affiliate! Help support the podcast & get exclusive deals by booking your hotel stays, shows, attractions, tours, clubs and even complete vacation packages (including air & hotel) with our special link!
Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Noopy Rodrigues, daughter of comedian and singer Rose Marie and trumpeter Bobby Guy. Talking to Noopy was a fun and lively experience because the thing that became clear from the word go was how many connections we had that we didn't even know about. From Broadway theaters our mom's performed in, being brought out on stage by famous entertainers when we were likely not even in Kindergarten, strong single mothers who raised their families after devastating losses, growing up in the San Fernando Valley and more. Noopy also somehow connected the dots to other guests – as she was a segment producer on the Tomorrow show with Tom Snyder, whose daughter Ann Marie Snyder was prior guest as well as how her mother saved all sorts of amazing things including the very recordings that make up the new CD Rose Marie Sings: The Complete Mercury Recordings & More. If that sounds amazingly familiar to what host Josh Mills is working on as well, don't worry, we made that connection already. Along the way we also talk Rosalind Russell, Phil Silvers, Morey Amsterdam, Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis and some guy named Popcorn who really will blow your mind. Take a listen to our conversation with Noopy Rodrigues on this episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.
Walker and Zach take a break from their Fiona coverage for an episode on Martin Scorsese's most underrated film - the 1983, Robert De Niro-starring, cringe-inducing masterpiece The King of Comedy. Follow us on Instagram to get the inside scoop, weekly show updates, upcoming special guests, and original artwork for each episode @idiotalk.podcast Idiotalk theme song by Walker Glenn Enjoying the show? Please Rate (and) Review wherever you listen to Podcasts!
Tonight's Guests: Mike Bunin and Reid ScottPart 2Ever had a mustache-growing contest? If not, buckle up as you're in for a treat. With a unique spin on family time, we, your hosts, along with our guests, Mike Bunin and Reid Scott, delve into the hilarious saga of their mustache-growing endeavor which culminated into an unforgettable photoshoot. We also reminisce about sharing the joy of music with our little ones and the integral part it plays in shaping their worldview. Have you heard about the Don Simpson clause or the urban legends involving Jerry Lewis? Well, you're about to! Finally, we address the elephant in the room - the entertainment industry. With the rapid rise of digital platforms, we explore how platforms like YouTube are paving the way for upcoming actors. We also debate the changing consumption patterns of entertainment - if you're pondering whether it's ninety one-minute stories or ninety-minutes of one story, you're not alone! And of course, we couldn't let you go without a word of caution - Google 'Blue Waffle' at your own risk. Tune in every Tuesday at 7 pm on Facebook, Twitch, and YouTube and join us for a night filled with laughter, nostalgia, and insightful conversations.Grab yourself a drink, and join us!You can catch more of Reid Scott on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/mrreidscott/You can catch more of Mike Bunin on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/michaelbunin/You can catch The Parent's Lounge live every Tuesday Night at 10pm EST/7pm PST at:https://www.facebook.com/theparentsloungeJamie Kaler's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jamiekaler/Jason Gowin's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jasongowin/Kate Mulligan's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/katestmomever/The Parent's Lounge TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theparentsloungeshow
We're celebrating Labor Day this week by republishing a classic episode from last year all about the television event that became synonymous with not only this holiday, but also its enigmatic (and problematic) host - Mr. Jerry Lewis. Enjoy!---It's that time of year again - Labor Day Weekend. And we all know the two most important things about that day: it's the final chance to wear white clothing (thank you, Elle Woods), and it's also when the nation used to tune into the Muscular Dystrophy Association's annual fundraising broadcast, or as it's better known, the Jerry Lewis Telethon.Rob teaches Ray about Good Jerry and Bad Jerry; the early days of Martin and Lewis, their subsequent break-up, and their unexpected reunion; how Lainie Kazan earned her Actor's Studio stripes while singing Barry Manilow; Joan Crawford's questionable poetry choices; and why MDA eventually disassociated itself from the very man who popularized its fundraiser and championed its cause.If you like what we're doing, please support us on Patreon, or you can subscribe to our bonus content on Apple Podcasts. And we'd love to find even more listeners, so if you have time, please leave us a rating or review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And if you have any other thoughts or feedback you'd like to share with us, we'd love to hear from you - feel free to email us or send us a message on social media.TEAMRay HebelRobert W. SchneiderMark SchroederBilly RecceDaniel SchwartzbergGabe CrawfordNatalie DeSaviaARTICLESEPISODE CLIPSOpening Credits for the MDA TelethonLewis and Martin ReuniteLewis on Female ComicsLewis on RefugeesLewis Uses a Gay Slur“Bad Jerry” (Lewis on Larry King)
WGN Radio's Dave Plier and Dave Schwan talk about the history of the American labor movement and the legacy of comedian Jerry Lewis and what was an annual tradition on Labor Day weekend, the MDA telethon.
The British Invasion of the mid-60's is best known for The Beatles, but there were more groups than just the boys from Liverpool. In fact, just a month after The Beatles played on Ed Sullivan the Dave Clark Five would take that stage, the first of 12 appearances on The Ed Sullivan Show. The quintet consisted of Dave Clark on drums and backing vocals, Rick Huxley on bass, Mike Smith on vocals and keyboard, Lenny Davidson on lead guitar, and Dennis Payton on Sax, Harmonica, and vocals.The British Invasion was really a re-introduction of American music, as many of the British acts took inspiration from soul, gospel, and blues music from places like Chicago, Detroit, Memphis, and New Orleans. This re-introduction was accompanied by intriguing accents, strange fashion and hair styles, and a lot of energy and heart.The sixth American album release from the Dave Clark Five was entitled Having a Wild Weekend, and was the soundtrack to a movie of the same title. This film was originally released as "Catch Us If You Can," in the UK, but was renamed when it was released in the States. It is a light-hearted social drama similar to "A Hard Day's Night" released by the Beatles, and it likewise was used as a vehicle to increase the popularity of the band and their songs.Unlike the Beatles, the Dave Clark Five never ventured into the psychedelic sound of the late 60's, and their popularity began to wane by 1967. The group would disband in 1967.John Lynch brings us this classic group and soundtrack for this week's podcast. Having a Wild WeekendThis single was written by Dave Clark and Mike Smith, and is the lead-off and title track to the album. The premise of the album is that Dinah, a model for an add campaign for meat, runs off with one of the stunt men while shooting a TV commercial. The ad executives use their disappearance to generate more publicity for their client.New Kind of LoveWe're not really sure if this song is about a guy whose girlfriend cheats on him, or about a stalker who like a girl who has no idea that the guy thinks they're dating. I Said I Was SorryWhen the guy messes up in the relationship, he is left wondering why everything isn't OK now that he has said he was sorry. The lyrics at the time weren't meant to be studied too seriously, were they? At least he said he was sorry, because we would find out from Elton John years later that "sorry" seems to be the hardest word.Catch Us If You CanCo-written by Dave Clark and Lenny Davidson, this was the title song for the UK version of the album. It leads off side two, and was the hit single from the album, rising to number 4 on the US charts. The finger snapping and guitar leading into the song was a catchy hook. ENTERTAINMENT TRACK:Main theme from the television series “Gidget” The Frederick Kohner novels about a teenager in the surfing culture would lead to films of the late 50's, and a TV show that would begin in 1965 starring Sally Field. STAFF PICKS:Just a Little by The Beau BrummelsBruce's staff pick is one of the groups that is credited with creating the San Francisco sound. The Beau Brummels were Sal Valentino on vocals, Ron Elliott on lead guitar, Declan Mulligan on guitar, Ron Meagher on bass, and John Petersen on drums. This is off their debut album entitled "Introducing the Beau Brummels," which was produced by Sly Stallone The Train Kept a-Rollin' by Screaming Lord Sutch & the SavagesYou may be familiar with the Aerosmith version of this song, but Rob brings you an earlier version of the classic blues track originally recorded by Tiny Bradshow in 1951. Screaming Lord Sutch was known for his Halloween-themed stage shows, complete with knives and coffins, with the lead singer appearing as Jack the RIpper.The Game of Love by Wayne Fontana and the MindbendersWayne features a number 1 hit from the Billboard Hot 100. The group took its name from a British movie, and appeared in the 1967 Sidney Poitier film, "To Sir, with Love." The group broke up at the final concert of a UK tour with The Who, Arthur Brown, and Joe Coker on November 20, 1968.Count Me In by Gary Lewis and The PlayboysLynch closes out the staff picks with a group that was originally known as Gary & the Playboys, hiding the relationship that Gary had with his celebrity father, Jerry Lewis. They auditioned and were hired to play at Disneyland, and frequently played to full houses. The group suffered in live performances, because producer Snuff Garrett utilized session musicians heavily on their studio tracks, and the band could not duplicate their studio sound on the stage. INSTRUMENTAL TRACK:Maiden Voyage by the Herbie HancockThis instrumental jazz piece that closes out the podcast shows the longevity of Herbie Hancock's career, and was the title track to his album of the same name.
WGN Radio's Dave Plier and Dave Schwan talk about the history of the American labor movement and the legacy of comedian Jerry Lewis and what was an annual tradition on Labor Day weekend, the MDA telethon.
GGACP celebrates American Artist Appreciation Month by revisiting this hilarious 2017 interview with award-winning illustrator and cartoonist Drew Friedman. In this episode, Drew discusses his latest book, "Drew Friedman's Chosen People" and joins the boys for a rollicking hour of rumors, innuendo, half-truths and outright lies. Also in this episode: Drew puts Groucho to bed, Frank meets a real, live Stooge, Fred McMurray inspires Captain Marvel and Sammy Petrillo takes credit for "The Munsters." PLUS: The Uncle Miltie puppet! The MAD genius of Don Martin! The return of Perfecto Telles! Jerry Lewis "kills" Peter Lorre! And Mr. Warmth plays Felix Ungar! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Entertainment publicist and author Jeff Abraham is endlessly expanding what he calls the Abraham Comedy Archives — which include roughly 5,000 comedy recordings from the well-known to the exceedingly rare, plus books, ephemera, and a wide range of personal items celebrating the work and lives of beloved comedians, including his favorite, Jerry Lewis. Jeff's book, "The Show Won't Go On: The Most Shocking, Bizarre, and Historic Deaths of Performers Onstage" (co-written with Burt Kearns): https://theshowwontgoon.com Opening theme by Still Flyin' Closing theme by Eric Frisch Additional music by TrackTribe and Blue Dot Sessions Visit For Keeps online: https://www.forkeepspodcast.com Follow "For Keeps" on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forkeepspodcast Follow "For Keeps" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forkeepspodcast Rate and review "For Keeps" on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/for-keeps/id1257905885
Don Crutchfield: Confessions of a Hollywood PIDon Crutchfield has been a private investigator for three decades. His list clients and subjects reads like a Who's Who of Hollywood. Present and former clients include Marlon Brando, the Beatles, Judy Garland, Frank Sinatra, Charles Bronson, Jerry Lewis, and Carroll O'Connor. Subjects of his investigations include Michael Jackson, Lisa Marie Presley, Tim Allen, Donald and Marla Trump, Roseanne Barr, Tom Arnold, and O.J. Simpson. Crutchfield has an international reputation, but his primary base of operations has always been the Los Angeles area. He is regularly contacted as a prime source of information by such media outlets as The Los Angeles Times, Primetime Live and Hard Copy. Don Crutchfield's insights and opinions are often sought by print and electronic media journalists. He has been interviewed on Entertainment Tonight, Hard Copy, A Current Affair, CNN Newsnight and Inside Edition. P.I. Crutchfield has also been the subject of feature articles in The New York Post and The Los Angeles Times. Crutchfield is also a member of International Association of Chiefs of Police, American Society for Industrial Security (A.S.I.S.), California Association of Licensed Investigators (C.A.L.I.), Board of Directors for World Boxing Hall of Fame, member of Screen Actors Guild and AFTRA.Add To CartThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/1198501/advertisement
In this episode, the Mullets work out some grievances with one another before watching their second Chaplin film, this time with talking! They discuss powerful monologues, op-eds, more allegations and Jerry Lewis.All kinds of awesome, bonus content is available on our Patreon! Rate, review and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher and Spotify! Follow us on Facebook and Twitter!
GGACP celebrates the birthday (August 13) of comedian, actor and magician Jeff Altman with this ENCORE of a warm and funny conversation from 2021. In this episode, Jeff talks about his family connection to Houdini, his decades-long friendships with Buddy Rich and David Letterman, the early days of the Magic Castle and the Comedy Store and the infamous NBC variety show “Pink Lady & Jeff.” Also, Raymond Burr takes a seat, Sam Kinison sees a ghost, Gilbert watches Rodney Dangerfield eat and Jeff opens for Pia Zadora and The Captain & Tennille. PLUS: Sean Connery! “Legends of the Superheroes”! Jerry Lewis demands credit! The comedy of Jim Varney! And Jeff and Dave kill off the careers of the Starland Vocal Band! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bill Boggs is an Emmy-Award winning TV Talk Show host, producer & author who began his career in comedy. His TV credits include the long running Midday Live out of New York City. He was the executive producer of the groundbreaking The Morton Downey Show and was the co-creator & host of the syndicated Series Comedy Tonite. He has interviewed some of the most notable personalities of all-time, including a rare talk show interview with Frank Sinatra. John Belushi, Martha Stewart, Brooke Shields, Elliot Gould, Carly Simon, Sammy Davis Jr., Yul Brynner, Jerry Lewis, Howard Stern are among the hundreds of bold faced names he has interviewed in his storied on-air career. Bill is the author of the 2023 book Spike Unleashed: The Wonder Dog Returns (sequel to The Adventures of Spike the WonderDog).
Two Minks Podcast back talking: Learning to curse, Fruit Juice, Getting canceled with an over the top quote, Jerry Lewis vs Jerry Lee Lewis, Mid 20th century stage acts, Hollywood Stars using fake names, Cousin Lovin', American Plumbing, Bob's ex marine Co-Worker, the Japanese Omelette Guy and so much more https://linktr.ee/TwoMinksPodcast
*Please forgive the sound of the very necessary fan in the background* Coming out 33 years earlier than the more well-known 90s adaptation, this month's film loosely inspired by the classic Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde but adds more comedy and the moral of learning to live in your own skin instead of transforming the person you are. Adding to the list of classic Hollywood movies we have covered on this show please enjoy as we discuss the Jerry Lewis written, directed, and starring classic 1963's... The Nutty Professor. Follow Us! Instagram: @undercastcompany Twitter: @undercastco Facebook: Undercast Company @undercastcompany Email us at email@example.com Theme music by Will Van De
He acted in George Lucas' first student film. He directed Honey, We Shrunk the Audience for Disney theme parks in 70mm 3-D. He made a virtual reality television series. He studied at USC with actress Nina Foch and “total filmmaker” Jerry Lewis. But as long as he lives, Randal Kleiser will be best known as the guy who directed Grease. He has a new book called Drawing Directors, based on his close encounters with notable colleagues, and has completed a documentary about his high school graduating class called Baby Boomer Yearbook. As Leonard and Jessie learned, Randal lives in the present, looking toward the future.
Eddie Deezen is an actor, voice actor, one-time comedian, and man with the foremost knowledge of everything Beatles related. He joined Tony Mazur on the Check Your Brain podcast to talk about how he moved across to the country to get into comedy, the powers of prayer helping him get the part of Eugene in Grease, his transition to voice acting, and his love of Curly Howard, the Marx Brothers, and Jerry Lewis (even though he wasn't nice to him). Book a Cameo with Eddie at Cameo.com/EddieDeezen. Be sure to subscribe to Tony's Patreon. $3 gets you just audio, $5 gets video AND audio, and $10 has all of the above, as well as bonus podcasts per week. Visit Patreon.com/TonyMazur. Tony is also on Locals and Rumble! Look up Check Your Brain and Tony Mazur, respectively, for video content, as well as YouTube @tmaze25. Cover art for the Check Your Brain podcast is by Eric C. Fischer. If you need terrific graphic design work done, contact Eric at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Ahh 1997...a time when comedy movie presidents did Bill Clinton impressions, apes were the toast of Hollywood, and NASA launched the first manned mission to Mars. That's what's happening in this year's Listener Pick, chosen by our supporter, Robin. It's Disney's RocketMan, a live-action, slapstick farce starring Harland Williams as the smartest, dumbest astronaut around.What's GoodAlonso - BlueSkyDrea - King Size Comforter for a Queen (of the Midwest) BedHal - Ordering groceries onlineIfy - GorgesITIDIC:SAG Negotiations Extended Until July 12Mattel Exec Says that Upcoming Barney Movie Will Be “For Adults”Goodburger 2 Update: Lil Rey Howery and Jillian Bell Added to CastStaff PicksAlonso - Electric DreamsDrea - Earth MamaHal - Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret.Ify - The Pest@lunalnewport's tweetWe're sponsored by Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/maxfilm50 and use code maxfilm50 for 50% off plus free shipping! Interested in becoming a MaxFun member? MaximumFun.org/joinCall the Hotline! MaximumFun.org/Hotlinehttp://www.maximumfun.org/hotlineWith:Ify NwadiweDrea ClarkAlonso DuraldeHal LublinProduced by Marissa FlaxbartSr. Producer Laura Swisher
Le secteur de l'hôtellerie-restauration manque aussi de bras, alors que la saison estivale devrait faire le plein de touristes. Même les palaces sont touchés. Dans « La Story », le podcast d'actualité des « Echos », Pierrick Fay et ses invités s'interrogent sur la façon dont le secteur s'adapte à la pénurie.La Story est un podcast des « Echos » présenté par Pierrick Fay. Cet épisode a été enregistré en juin 2023. Rédaction en chef : Clémence Lemaistre. Invités : Joséphine Boone (Journaliste aux Echos) et Jérôme Crépatte (propriétaire du groupe Destination gourmande et du Domaine de la Corniche). Réalisation : Willy Ganne. Musique : Théo Boulenger. Identité graphique : Upian. Photo : iStock. Sons : «Palace» 1988, «Le dingue du Palace» de Jerry Lewis 1960, EHL Hospitality Business School. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.
Get early access, exclusive content, and so much more He definitely seems inspired by the work of the silent era, the Harold Lloyd, the Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, very sort of physical comedy Show Notes In this episode of "With Nothing to Say", Austin and Andrew discuss the Jerry Lewis classic "The Nutty Professor" and its unique style of humor. They delve into Jerry Lewis' comedic style, which involves a lot of physical gags and foolish characters, and compare it to the silent era comedians like Harold Lloyd, Buster Keaton, and Charlie Chaplin. They also talk about the film's standout moments and how it embraces silliness without trying to be serious or cool. Overall, they provide an entertaining and informative discussion of Jerry Lewis' most famous film, "The Nutty Professor".
GGACP celebrates the birthday of "The Prince of Pain," comedian and actor Richard Lewis (born June 29th) by revisiting his funny and far-ranging interview from 2017. In this episode, Richard discusses the 9th season of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and reminisces about his 45 years in comedy, his history of "nightmare gigs" and his relationships with Rodney Dangerfield, Jerry Lewis, Don Rickles and Jonathan Winters. Also, Larry David goes to camp, David Brenner buys a stapler, the Juggalos heckle Lionel Atwill and Richard joins the mile-high club (sort of). PLUS: John Cassavetes! The legend of Fred de Cordova! "The Island of Dr. Moreau"! Richard plays Carnegie Hall! And Gilbert plays Queen Elizabeth! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Barbara and I talk about her getting the job as film producer at Saturday Night Live; opening the 1981-82 season with Prose and Cons; The Khaddaffi Look; filming some of The Last Days of Silverman's Bunker; Jerry Lewis filming a movie that was never used; working with John Belushi pre-SNL; Babies in Makeup by Nelson Lyon; Fur: You Deserve It with a young Sela Ward; Jogger Motel; Seth Green and Bill Murray: what really happened; Man on the Street Films; George McGovern plays golf through the streets of NY; Video Victims aka Alan, A Video Victim; using Frederick Koehler a lot; The Girls of Saturday Night Live; the three episode arc on the Death of Buckwheat; Buddweiser Light with Robin Williams pretending to ice skate; making her commercials look authentic; Billy Crystal and Christopher Guest's Negro League characters spark the ire of Bill Cosby; makeup artist Peter Montagna makes Eddie Murphy unrecognizable in "White Like Me"; Andy Samberg uses many of her films in a SNL Best of Special; Saturday Night Live Film Festival; Colleen Atwood; Bebe Neuwirth gets one of her first jobs in "Needleman" film; Spinal Tap / Folksmen pre-tapes; Lifestyles of the Relatives of the Rich and Famous; Synchronized Swimming; Danny DeVito blows up ABC; bringing Fernando to Night of 100 Stars; Buddy Young Jr.; Rich Hall; Jim Belushi wants into the cutting room; making sure a giant penis wasn't to smooth in "The Bulge"; Billy Crystal as a substitute during the writers strike; the debacle that was In Search of Francis the Talking Mule; Jim Signorelli; The Lonely Island did the best films besides her; her renegotiations for her fourth season; Martin Short and the Mamie Eisenhower Center for the Dull; creating the 1984-85 opening montage; working on What's Alan Watching?; Mary Salter; Dan Castellaneta in Buckwheat sketch; working with Larry David; Escape from New York, New York; The Clams - a Birds parody; Don't Drink the Water; Hal Wilner
Bob Christianson joined me to talk about being the next Billy Joel; what it means to be a working composer; having Sgt. Pepper be his influence; going to SUNY Potsdam quitting student teaching; joining the Magic Show on Broadway; meeting and replacing Paul Shaffer in The Magic Show and Godspell; doing Gilda Live; performing "I Live to be Unhappy" with Gilda on Broadway; being in The Candy Slice Group; Doug Henning and Gilda Raner being private people; performing in the Broadway play Truckload; arrangeing the Disco version of Babes in Toyland recorded at MSG; touring with Jan Hammer; performing on Aretha Franklin's "Can't Turn You Loose"; being a session musician in the late 70's / eafrly 80's; subbing for Leon Pendarvis in the SNL band beginning in 1983; Jerry Lewis and Don Rickles ad-libs cause producers havoc; accompanying Jim Belushi as Boy George Burns and Rappin Jimmy B and saying "LFNY"; playing piano for Irving Caesar, Mr. Robinson, Michael Douglas; the bandstand being off camera from 1983 - 1986; being inNewsbar with Edwin Newman; backing up Danitra Vance; composing and arranging for The Late Show with David Letterman's 60 Piece Band; his 1982 recording session available on Youtube; writing the theme song to Gimme A Break; people making viral videos out of his music for Sex and the City and the NHL; winning an Emmy and having a documentary made about the NHL theme; losing an Emmy to A Christmas Carol to Lin Manuel Miranda; composing for the films Marvin's Room and Miracle; how he writes his sports themes; inspiration comes at odd times; how Lin Manuel Miranda wrote Hamilton; not being "too precious" with your songwriting; writing and playing on jingles solidifies your craft; deadlines make creativity; Sex and the City needed a lot of music weekly; todays movies need epic scores with no time to write them; why he still admires Billy Joel
Get early access, exclusive content, and so much more "There is nothing more hilarious than France during World War One." - Andrew Harp Show Notes In this podcast episode, the hosts of "With Nothing to Say" discuss the film "Paths of Glory" directed by Stanley Kubrick. They analyze the frustrating nature of the film, the different characters and their motivations, and the well-written dialogue by Jim Thompson. They also delve into the themes and motifs present in the film, such as the futility of war and the prevalence of lawyer stories in movies of the era. The hosts praise the performances of the actors, particularly Kirk Douglas, and the overall look of the film. They conclude the episode by giving the film high marks and thanking their listeners. Mentions Jerry Lewis, The Nutty Professor: 00:00:23 Jim Thompson, writer of the screenplay: 00:08:18 Humphrey Cobb, author of the book: 00:08:27 Anatomy of a Murder (movie): 00:29:20 Nuremberg Trials: 00:30:21 Dostoevsky: 00:33:52 Affidavits: 00:35:45 Timestamps The Nutty Professor [00:00:00] The hosts discuss the upcoming film they will be watching for their podcast, "The Nutty Professor," and their thoughts on Jerry Lewis. Paths of Glory [00:01:10] The hosts discuss the film "Paths of Glory" directed by Stanley Kubrick, its frustrating nature, and the different characters and their motivations. Jim Thompson [00:09:12] The hosts briefly mention the writer of the film's screenplay, Jim Thompson, and discuss his work in crime fiction. Opening and War Scenes [00:10:20] The hosts discuss the opening scenes of the film "Paths of Glory" and the portrayal of war and characters. The Attack and Frustration [00:11:15] The hosts discuss the attack scene and the frustrating nature of the film, including the different characters and their motivations. Writing and Kubrick's Films [00:15:23] The hosts discuss the writing in "Paths of Glory" and compare it to other Kubrick films, including "The Shining" and "Barry Lyndon". The Short War Scene in Paths of Glory [00:19:55] Discussion of the short war scene in the film "Paths of Glory" and Kubrick's disinterest in violence. The Frustrating Courtroom Scene [00:26:10] Discussion of the courtroom scene in the film "Paths of Glory" and the futility of trying to save the three innocent men being court-martialed. Kirk Douglas Defending the Three Men [00:27:13] Discussion of Kirk Douglas defending the three innocent men being court-martialed and the frustration of the judges not caring about logic or reason. Lawyer Movies of the 50s [00:29:20] The hosts discuss the popularity of lawyer movies in the 50s, such as "Anatomy of a Murder," and the frustrating nature of the genre. Execution of the Soldiers [00:33:52] The hosts describe the execution scene in "Paths of Glory," where the soldiers are killed without any dramatic final moments or speeches. Ending of the Movie [00:37:34] The hosts discuss the final scene of "Paths of Glory," where the soldiers are forced to leave a moment of joy to return to the horrors of World War I. The Frustrating Nature of "Paths of Glory" [00:38:23] The hosts discuss the frustrating nature of the film "Paths of Glory" directed by Stanley Kubrick and the different characters and their motivations. Kubrick's First Great Film [00:40:24] The hosts discuss how "Paths of Glory" is Kubrick's first great film and how it gets the job done in a good way. A Nuanced Anti-War Movie [00:41:23] The hosts discuss how "Paths of Glory" is one of the more nuanced anti-war movies and how it's about people fighting amongst each other in their own groups and capacities.
Former child actor turned Grammy-winning producer Dennis Scott, recounts his journey from auditioning for commercials with dyed black hair to producing hit albums for Sesame Street and learning to let the musicians do their thing.With a start on Broadway at just seven years old, Dennis quickly learned what it takes to make it in the business. After his time as a child actor, he joined the New Christie Minstrels, a popular folk group, and began writing songs. Dennis eventually became a powerhouse producer and songwriter in the music industry, working with some of the biggest names out there. With his vast experience and knowledge, Dennis is sure to offer invaluable advice for aspiring musicians.This episode is sponsored by: Beck's ShoesIn this episode:The Impact of Mr. RogersThe Role of a ProducerStaying Grounded in the Midst of FameHumble Beginnings Bio:Two-time Grammy Award-winning songwriter/producer/writer DENNIS SCOTT has left no corner of the children's music industry unexplored.His songs have been performed by such diverse artists as Faith Hill, Ray Charles, Sugarland, Alison Krauss, The Muppets, Amy Grant, CeCe Winans, Trisha Yearwood, Elmo, Charlie Daniels Band, Shari Lewis, Crystal Gayle, Roberta Flack, Ricky Skaggs, and many others.Dennis is also the recipient of two Emmys, a Parent's Choice Award, and a Telly. You can hear his work on television, radio, audiobooks, home videos, and stage productions such as "Clifford the Big Red Dog," "Sesame Street Live," and "The Magic School Bus."Dennis began his entertainment career at the age of 7 as an actor on Broadway. As an adult, he toured with the New Christy Minstrels (playing upright bass and singing). His novelty tune "Captain Kirk's Disco Trek" led to his first serious foray into children's music and a Grammy for "Sesame Country." He has had nonstop assignments since then.Dennis has served a music director for several children's TV shows, including the PBS series "Noddy" and, most recently, "BJ's Teddy Bear Club" which airs on TBN and just earned him his second Emmy award. His album, "Songs From the Neighborhood - the Music of Mister Rogers" won last year's Grammy award as Best Musical Recording for Children.Recently Dennis fulfilled his own childhood dream by spearheading a Beatles tribute band called The WannaBeatles. The band has grown in popularity and was even nominated for a Grammy in the spoken word category for an audiobook collection of interviews with Beatles fans called, "Fab Fan Memories - The Beatles Bond."When your childhood heroes are people like Danny Kaye, Jack Benny and Jerry Lewis, you can't help but have a silly side to you. Creating and producing music, particularly children's music, allows me to be as silly and creative as I want to be. And playing in a Beatles band makes me feel like a rock star. "Now that's my kind of job description!"https://dennisscott.net/www.GaryScottThomas.com
This week Devo has the day off! But he won't be sleeping in, oh no. Instead, he'll be busy trying to keep Pinkard and Bowden from petting the dog. Meanwhile, Mike Elliott and Bud LaTour rock out with Jerry Lewis and Moonic Productions answers the question we never knew we had. 1. "Don't Pet the Dog" by Pinkard and Bowden 2. "Rock Me, Jerry Lewis" by Mike Elliott and Bud LaTour 3. News of the Stupid! 4. "If AC/DC Wrote Billie Jean" by Moonic Productions Pinkard and Bowden can be found on your favorite streaming platform Mark Jonathan Davis is at MarkJonathanDavis.com Moonic Productions is on YouTube Thank you to our Patreon backers for making this show possible!!!
Yes, all three interests in the title and so much more. Meet Kris Gowen. By any definition, she is a person with varied interests, and a wealth of knowledge that we all can appreciate, and she even has sung Karaoke in all 50 United States. Kris hales from New Jersey originally. She always has liked Drama, but her high school didn't have a drama department until her Senior high school year. Even so, singing has always been a part of her life. During this episode Kris and I have a far-reaching discussion about such things as communications, how do we change some of the conversations inside politics and how we can become more educated about things so we can make better decisions. Kris tells us about her teaching and personal adventures traveling around the world and tells us about lessons she learned along the way. As I said, Kris is an author. She has written books about her Karaoke adventures and she has even written a book about sex education. Her stories about these books are fascinating and worth hearing. I hope you enjoy our time with Kris. She is quite insightful, inspiring, and of course unstoppable. About the Guest: L. Kris Gowen, PhD. is an author and karaoke lover. She has written One Nation Under Song: My Karaoke Journey through Grief, Joy, and America about her epic road trip to sing karaoke in all 50 states (she did fly to Alaska and Hawaii), and Find Your Song: How to Cultivate Pockets of Joy during Times of Grief -- both books are based on her own experiences navigating tough times by holding onto the small joys in life. She has also written Sexual Decisions, a sex education textbook for teens which she is both proud and sad to say is on several banned book lists. In addition to being an author, Kris has a ton of other interests. She has spoken nationally and internationally on healthy relationships and the role of technology in sex and relationships. She is also on the Board of Make You Think, a small non-profit that supports science education and entertainment for adults. Her friends, bar trivia, and travel round out her passions. Kris currently splits her time between Portland and Toronto and earns her keep as a Consultant, supporting organizations in Change Management and Evaluation. She prioritizes applying a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion lens to all her work. She will always say yes to sushi and while she doesn't have a go-to karaoke song, she loves to sing Olivia Newton-John, Donna Summer, and Sia. Links for Kris: Find Your Song: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1736659502/ One Nation Under Song https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-Song-Karaoke/dp/1087932653/ About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes Michael Hingson 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Michael Hingson 01:20 Well, hi again. And yep, it is unstoppable mindset time. Thanks for being here. We really appreciate you. And we appreciate you listening. Today we get to chat with Kris Gowen. Kris has a lot of fun things to talk about. I'll tell you as far as really fun. She is and wants to emphasize a lot during our interview karaoke, and we will but we'll talk about other things as well. And she'll tell us how she has sung karaoke in all 50 states. And I don't know about the moon yet, but something to look forward to. But Kris, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here. Kris Gowen 01:57 Thanks so much. And thanks for you. Yeah, thanks for inviting me. Michael Hingson 02:01 Well, so let's start. Like, I usually like to tell me a little bit about you growing up how you started. And, well, you started like everybody else you got born, but you know, growing up and some of those kinds of things. And what eventually led you to some of the things that you do? Kris Gowen 02:15 Yeah, so I grew up in New Jersey to Canadian parents, and most of my relatives live in Canada, in split between a couple provinces. So I, I'm outside of New York City. So which as opposed to mountain lakes, okay. Michael Hingson 02:37 All right. So I lived in Westfield for six years. Okay, great. Kris Gowen 02:41 Yeah, it's a very tiny little town around it. So it was a sort of good public school system, often used to have, you know, where people would commute to New York City from and yeah, just people working. But yeah, it was it was small and lovely. But sadly, because it was so small. While I was in high school, there was no drama department until my senior year. But the only I'd loved singing, I just love singing, I can't remember a time where I didn't love singing. And I'm sure you know, ever, you know, I'm sure at some point, it just sort of evolved. But I would sing in the church choir a little bit. And that was like the sort of reason for me to even go to church early on, because I wasn't really religious and, and then would just sing any chance I got and would sing along to the radio and tape songs and sing those and just do all that kind of stuff. And then finally, I got a chance to sing. I was Snoopy, and you're Good Man, Charlie Brown my senior year in high school and really liked doing that. And from there, it's like I said, I just have love to sing no matter no matter what comes my way. Michael Hingson 04:03 When I was a freshman in high school, I was in the the Glee class. And one of the things that they did was schedule and start doing work to try to get people to appear in a mall and the night visitors, and I tried out for it. The problem was I said that although I could sing high enough because my voice hadn't changed. I wasn't quite loud enough, so I didn't get the part. Darn it, but it was was fun. Kris Gowen 04:36 Yeah, oh, yeah. Loud has never been my problem. If there's anything it's like trying to tone it down a little bit. So I have the opposite problem that you do when it comes to tempo goals. Michael Hingson 04:47 Well, I think the issue really was that a guy would have a hard time in general getting a so it was a girl who eventually got the part anyway. Yeah, which wasn't a surprise. was a little disappointing. But on the other hand, we did go to see it when it was actually performed. And there's nothing like live performances anyway, whether it's even a high school performance or a college or we, we actually when we lived in Mission Viejo, California, my wife and I had neighbors who were Mormons, and they had a number of performances that they put on every year. And they did a wonderful job of Oklahoma and there's just nothing like live performance. Kris Gowen 05:29 Yeah, I agree. And I I have a very good friend here in Portland, Oregon, that is a drama teacher for in high school, and I tried to go see as many of their shows as I can. And other friends that perform here and there and certain musical reviews or things like that, and I do love supporting them, because they're my friends. And also just because it's super enjoyable to to hear the live performances. Michael Hingson 05:56 We were very fortunate when Jerry Lewis starred as Mr. Applegate the devil in Damn Yankees, we were living in New York, and it was his only time ever appearing on Broadway. They did a wonderful interview about it, but we got to actually see him, which was really cool. That's fantastic. He did a great job. So you went through high school and all that in New Jersey? And then what did you do with your world, Kris Gowen 06:18 I went to college in California and discovered I'm much more of a West coaster than an east coaster and spent did some my undergraduate in California and then I went back east for like three months to see if I could make it back over there. And I was in New York for a little bit and trying to work in the TV industry. And that didn't work out at all. And so three months later, I went back to the effect of California, and then spent a little bit more time there. And then I went back to the east coast for a year to get a master's degree. And then I came back to California to get a PhD in child and adolescent development. And then I moved up to Portland, Oregon, in 2000. And pretty much I've stayed here almost through I just move back actually, I spent a year and a half in Toronto. And we'd like to figure out a way to get back there. So I think that's my flavor of east coast that I like ultimately, Michael Hingson 07:24 so nice city. Yeah, I really enjoyed. I enjoyed some time in Toronto. So yeah, what was your major in college? Kris Gowen 07:33 Communications, film and television. And that's when I learned that I am a horrible filmmaker. And really, I just cannot put together a I can't edit Well, I can't do anything. It was just something that I thought I would really love doing. And I did enjoy it. But I was just very bad at it. And so. So after you figure that out, where do you major in something that you really don't have a lot of skill in? You know, you need to be like, Oh, now what do I do? So yeah, so I managed to bakery for a little while, and then that's when I started, then getting my master's degree and then also my PhD in child and adolescent development for the most part, and started working with youth and young adults, as well as writing for youth and young adults in the sex ed world. And so that's where I really got a stronghold there. But I then I started using my research and my research skills more broadly to support community based organizations in their evaluation program evaluation efforts. I mean, this is kind of nerdy and boring, but I love it. I really love using data in ways that are really applied and that are accessible to whoever wants to know the numbers and things like that. And it's, it can be a pretty big challenge and I really love it. Michael Hingson 08:54 So even though you like to sing and so on, you didn't decide to try to go off and do music as a study and as a as a possible major. Hmm. Kris Gowen 09:04 You know, it really never occurred to me that that would be an option. Um, I never really felt and saw myself as a good singer, I'd say until just the last couple of years. So I you know, would audition for things I wouldn't necessarily get parts I still love to sing so I would still sing I knew I wasn't awful awful, but I I never really saw any form of musical career being a possibility you know, really at all so you know, thank goodness for places like karaoke where, you know, one of the reasons I love it is because it's got so much unexpected pneus in it. And another reason is it's such a supportive community like it's one of the few places that you can do, like awful at and people will still completely cheer you. Yeah. Michael Hingson 09:56 And there's no pressure no which is which is cool. I was telling someone yesterday we were listening to Joe Stafford, you know who she is? Or was, she was a singer in the 40s and 50s and had perfect pitch. And you talk about doing bad Joe Stafford recorded a whole album once, where she sang a half a note off key just to prove she could. And so the whole album, right is her a half note off key because she had perfect pitch to be able to do that. Kris Gowen 10:31 Right? Which is it is very hard to sing. Right? Purposely off key when you've got all this music happening around you and you just sounds so wrong. Michael Hingson 10:41 Yeah. It came out. Alright, the album was I don't know how much it sold, it was fairly popular. As I recall. I just heard about it, having been done, but I believe as I recall that it was popular enough because it was Joe Stafford to who was a pretty famous person back and singing in the 50s. And so on. Probably her most famous song was the song you belong to me, you know, see the pyramids along the Nile and all that. And she was the main person, or the person who's made that song most famous, although a lot of other people have done it. But what got you into? Well, first of all, where did you go to school in California? Kris Gowen 11:22 I went to school at Stanford, both for my undergraduate and my PhD. Michael Hingson 11:27 Oh, cool. couldn't stay away from the football team out from the cardinal Kris Gowen 11:31 height. I know, I know if Shaw being no longer being the coach. Yeah, no. So there is I mean, when I was there, actually, Stanford did have a couple of stints of doing okay. But for the most part, it was definitely not some of Stanford's glory years when I was when I was on campus. Michael Hingson 11:48 But it's a wonderful school. Kris Gowen 11:51 Yeah, yeah, I was just back there the other like, a couple months ago, and, you know, barely recognizing it as everything grows. But yeah, so yeah, decided that, California. And again, like I said, the west coast was really for me. And so I've spent a little bit of time, both in California and Oregon. Michael Hingson 12:09 So what got you into child development and deciding to do that as a, as a career and as a major? Oh, yeah. So Kris Gowen 12:17 I, you know, so I had my failed, I failed attempt at trying to be in, in the television world. And so tail between my legs, I went back to California, where my, my social circle was, like my support network, and I, I managed a bakery. And just to make, you know, make ends meet and just sort of regroup. And this was during the era where there was a lot of debate on condoms, whether they should be in schools or not. And you know, and the science, like any research study basically said that if you provide condoms in schools, it does not increase the rate of engaging in sexual activities among kids. And it but it does increase safer sex practices. So I saw I knew this literature, and I knew the research because, well, I'll back up a little bit but but, you know, Congress and other other politicians were basically ignoring the science and, and just making laws that had nothing to do with anything grounded in evidence. And I just got very annoyed with that I would throw socks at the television anytime there was like a newscast about it. And I was like, that does it, I'm gonna go back to school and get fancy letters after my name. So I can write curricula and do these things. And, and so related to that was really, I went into film and television, because I wanted to make documentaries. From the standpoint, like from the viewpoint of youth, I wanted to do things about social issues. And that was really what was driving me because I really felt like that the whole educational system was teaching us about things that didn't matter, right, like a very typical adolescent attitude of like, what's the point of learning all of this, this is dumb, we should be learning other things. And so I was like, I know I'm gonna make important movies about social issues, and that I learned that I could not make movies at all. I just took that passion and kind of turned it into something slightly different that still allowed me to focus on issues that matter to youth and young adults. Michael Hingson 14:35 How about collaborating however, so you didn't make you? You weren't great at making the movies did you ever explore collaborating with good movie makers and maybe helping to create the scripts and the topics and all that or have you not gotten that far yet? Kris Gowen 14:48 It was funny because I didn't think of doing that because I just thought like, it was going to be that just really hard to break into right. So as I was working in television for the three months that I worked, it's Just like the whole competitiveness and things, and I just didn't really, I didn't really have the good networking skills, and I didn't have those things. And I just really found myself again drawn to okay, what's the what's the evidence? And? And how are we going to do like create these best practices, and that was really more suited to sort of look into those things, not from a mass media standpoint, but really more from a research standpoint, but then also, from supporting these so many programs that are out there that are doing great things. Michael Hingson 15:34 You know, what comes to mind, though, immediately, is, as you were talking about, the politicians go off and do the things they do they ignore reality, and so on. How do we deal with that? I suppose one answer is we got to elect other people. But how do we get enough people to do that, that we get intelligent people in Congress and so on? But how do we start to truly change the dialogue? Because it it gets to be so frustrating, when when they totally ignore the politics and they stir up so many people to do that? Yeah, well, Kris Gowen 16:07 I mean, one, one piece of this is like, I can't imagine being a politician in the sense of you have to make decisions about everything, like you like, so there's sex ed policy, there's forestry, there's electric cars, there's tax laws, whatever, like you're supposed to have an opinion on all these different things. How the heck are you? expert in all these things? Right. So Michael Hingson 16:35 go ahead. Well, I say that's, of course, the real issue. Do you really have to have opinions on everything? Or do you use it as an opportunity to learn and then vote based on what you learned? But anyway, go ahead. Kris Gowen 16:49 Well, right. But I agree with that would be ideal, but there's only so many hours in the day, if you're literally like trying to figure out how to and then so right, so the US has lobbyists and and then lobbyists have agendas, and some are better funded than others. So there's that. And then also you listen to, you know, your constituents, because you want to get reelected. And so different moral values, and different, just values in general are infused into different segments of, of our population, and, and so then you start to go the direction that you believe will get you reelected, or you go in the direction of this lobbyists that's giving you the information that you think you need, and maybe it's good information, and maybe it's less grounded in evidence, it's, it's so complicated to just sort of say, Oh, well, they should just listen to the science. It's like, Yeah, but they got to listen to the science on like, 700 topics. And I'm guessing that I'm not even exaggerating when it comes to that. And Michael Hingson 17:48 they do. But in reality, a lot of what goes on with the politicians is really, the accomplishments of the staff and the staff advises them, yes, the politicians vote. But I guess my point really is having spent a lot of time around Washington and dealing with Congress and, and educating them on issues with disabilities and so on. A lot of the time, it's really educating the staff, or trying to educate the staff. So the staff really controls a lot of what the actual legislator hears and sees. So it still gets back to they're not necessarily the experts that we might think they are. They rely on staff. And that also means maybe they need to do a little bit better job of hiring smart staff. But as I said, it's also that they oftentimes stir up their constituents, which is a problem. Kris Gowen 18:45 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yes. Michael Hingson 18:47 It's a mess. It's a challenge. I don't envy anybody who does it. I agree with you. But I think also there are, there are more things that we could do to to have a more substantive discussion about a lot of stuff. And and it seems like we're really losing that opportunity, or at least we're losing the perspective of having meaningful conversations, compared to what it used to be like 40 and 50 years ago. Kris Gowen 19:17 Yeah, yes, there's definitely more of a I mean, there's lots of explanations. And again, these are sort of, I mean, we're, we've, like, whatever, five minutes into this podcast, we're launching into like, some of the country's biggest challenges and I write, I definitely don't have answers for them. And I don't think anybody does at this point, because it's not going to be simple. It's so many different things that are happening that are coming together at a time that is creating, yeah, these like strong divides between between some types of values. And at the same time, I do think that there are commonalities that are there. It's just that we're very much entrenched, right? Now in, you know, being more drawn to difference than we are to similarity and common ground. Michael Hingson 20:06 Yeah. And I think that's a theme that a lot of people who think about it get to, which is, we're focusing too much on differences and not commonalities and finding ways to work together. But you went off and you got your PhD and came back to Stanford to do that. And then what did you do with your life? Kris Gowen 20:26 I ended up working a little bit in so I was in I'm trying to remember, this is a very long time ago, I didn't realize I was gonna have to go through my whole biography. That's all good. I just was like, What did I do after that? I, I was doing some research, I've really always been drawn to not being a traditional academic. So I've been research faculty at a couple of universities, I've worked, like I said, in sort of the nonprofit sector for a little bit. Some of it had to do with youth and young adults, some of it dealt more with health care in general. And so yeah, just been, you know, going where my passions were taking have taken me and I really liked that. That's how I've done things. Sometimes it's frustrating to be like to look at myself, some days, I'm like, Why did I just not choose an easy path or just like, you know, become an academic and stay in a place and just keep going. And I just sort of learned that just has to stop my nature, I just can't stay in one place for too long. Whether that's, you know, career ideas, or whether it's a physical location, I just really always been drawn to making sure that what I'm doing matters, and making sure what I'm doing. supports other other people. Michael Hingson 21:54 can't do much better than that. Hmm. Kris Gowen 21:56 Well, not I don't know. I mean, also, I just, you know, I know there's I'm sure there's many ways I can do better. And this is what I got. Michael Hingson 22:04 Oh, that's okay. So did you go into teaching? Or what did you go into doing? Kris Gowen 22:08 I did, I taught, I taught at Portland State University. For a while I taught human sexuality. I taught women's reproductive health, I taught a handful of other courses, but those were the two main ones. And then I was what's called research faculty. So again, I had a research portfolio that focused on youth and young adults, both in terms of healthy relationships, safer sex, as well as mental health. So I did that. And then I got tired of doing that. And so I took the opportunity to do some traveling for a couple of years where I was in a, you know, would stay in various countries for several, you know, for several months, and explore and really get to know different communities and different cultures and, and really appreciated that time, I taught some, taught some English and taught some research methods. And a couple of different I taught in Vietnam, I did some tutoring in South Korea, my student teaching was in Vietnam. And then I taught in Oman, which is in the Middle East. And all of that took around not quite two years to do that. And then I settled back up to being in an academic institution, again, in Oregon, and then, yeah, and then I, then the pandemic it, and everything went sideways. And that's what allowed me to take that time and reflect and decide, you know, I want to move to Toronto at some point in my life. So I, I, you know, got my paperwork in order and went up there and work there for a little bit. And now I'm back in Oregon, where my social support network is, and I'm doing some consulting work. Michael Hingson 23:56 So now you're kind of on your own. Do you have have you formed your own company? Or what? Kris Gowen 24:00 I do some independent consulting in that I also work for a large business management consulting firm as well. Michael Hingson 24:08 What do you do for them? Kris Gowen 24:10 Some change management work, as well as I'm currently supporting a new a new artificial intelligence, language processing, natural language processing tool, which is basically just something that would help help people analyze a lot of qualitative data as opposed to doing it all by hand. Because if you've got like a large organization, or if you've got, you know, for example, a large number of tweets or something and you want to make meaning of them, and there's literally 1000s of them. Typical qualitative research methods just can't really capture that data with any form of efficiency. So it's an interesting dance between humans and machine to help make the process more efficient. So I'm looking into supporting that, that that work? Michael Hingson 25:08 Do you use a tool that we would have heard of? No, Kris Gowen 25:11 use a tool that is proprietary of the organization I'm working for. And it's, it's still we're still in soft launch? So no, I haven't I'm not using a tool that anyone else is really, I mean, other than internally, a few of us are being trained up on this to help to help support its utilization in house. Michael Hingson 25:32 I know, there's been some discussion over the last few weeks about the stuff that Microsoft is doing to do text analysis and be able to do everything from composing poetry to having conversations with AI. Yes. I have not played with that yet. Although I guess I should explore it. People have asked me and I haven't really done that. So that's one of the things that I get to do when I take a little bit of time and, and don't do interviews for a day or two. But so that's, that's, that's all pretty cool. Well, you, you've done some writing, you wrote a book, I believe on sex education, right? Kris Gowen 26:10 Yeah, I did. I wrote a book called mimicking or they retitled it. So its first iteration was called Making sexual decisions. And then it just became sexual decisions. And it's sort of a, it's a textbook and like a library book for teens. And what made that unique, was it really balanced? It was about 5050, on healthy relationships versus sort of the the anatomy and sexual health components. So books tended to either lean towards one or the other. And so I wrote that. And then like I said, it had a couple of additions to it. And then, you know, it becomes sexuality education becomes really outdated very quickly. And so the book is, I think the last iteration of it was 2018, I think was when the the last edition of that was really published. But somehow, Congress is founded and has put it onto some banned book lists. Because it, I guess, it says things that they don't want it to say. So my friends made me a t shirt that says, you know, my book was banned, not like, you know, kind of selling a stinking t shirt. So yeah, and so I wrote that. And then yeah, the other two books that I've written since then, one was about my karaoke journey. And then the other was somewhat related to that, but was looking at the importance of finding joy during times of grief, because the first book about my karaoke journey, singing in all 50 states was really about me, processing the loss of my best friend. So those books, you know, they're certainly not sequels of each other, anything like that. But they're they, you know, there's a tie in there with the joy that karaoke brings me and how it really, I think, helps my mental health and just encouraging people to either find joy in karaoke, or whatever it is that they can find happiness in, during really, really tough times. Michael Hingson 28:21 Well, I do want to get to that. But I've got another question that you just made me think of, as you said that there have been several iterations of your your book on sex education, and they become out of date very quickly, why is that? What, what really causes the shift that makes it come out? It will go out of date and need to Yeah, Kris Gowen 28:39 I mean, there's a lot of things like the from between, like, I'll just give an example between the first the second edition, the HPV vaccine came out, right? So like, that's a whole thing. So, and then other ways that we talk about consent? I think, you know, so this is this is not necessarily in the iterations of my book, but we start like, when I was in high school, and even when I was in college, the idea of consent was very heteronormative. In other words, it was very assumed that it was going to be a boy and a girl negotiating sexual activity and it was up to the girl to be the gatekeeper to say no. And then and it was really up to the girl to make sure that that's the way it was. And now we've evolved so much more than in our consent language. First of all, we've dissolved like we're working on dissolving the gender binary, we can't assume the genders of the people that are wanting to engage in sexual activity we can assume who might be wanting to say no, versus another person who might be more interested. And then there's also the concept of teaching kids how to hear a no and how to make sure they're hearing a yes, so the onus isn't placed on On the person who is less interested in engaging in a certain type of activity, so there's so much on that. And then again, sort of talking about the ways we talk about gender identity and sexual orientation evolve very quickly. So if we want to be inclusive, and reach all young people in, in getting, you know, providing them with knowledge, things change really fast. Michael Hingson 30:25 Do you see other kinds of changes that are coming? Kris Gowen 30:31 I mean, yes, because gender identity and sexual orientation are still evolving in terms of how we're discussing those things. And I didn't even mention technic, the role of technology, and how that's escalating, right? There's always different apps that are being used, there's always different ways to communicate, and what are the most common ways that young youth and young adults prefer to communicate. So all of that is very, all of that is continuing to evolve. And I think a lot of that is still evolving. I'm hoping that our conversations about like I said, consent, and gender identity and sexual orientation, and just relationship structure, and things. I think all of that I'm really hoping continue to evolve and start to become more gray, as it were, that we don't have the sort of hard and fast rules, but instead really encourage listening and respect and communication and teaching people how to think about what matters to them, and then communicating that and feeling comfortable communicating that to somebody else that they might want to be with Michael Hingson 31:47 and accepting the responses that come whatever they may be. Kris Gowen 31:51 Exactly. And that's part of the communication and listening piece. Yeah. Michael Hingson 31:55 Well, so you have been doing all of this, which is great. And you've been doing karaoke. How did you get started originally with karaoke? What? What made you decide that that was something that would be fun to do? Kris Gowen 32:09 Well, I mean, it's it sort of comes back to when I was a kid and just loving to sing no matter what. And so the first time I sang karaoke was actually in Arizona. And I don't remember what year this is, but it was in there was sometime in the 90s. But I do remember being like being in a bar after I'd like I was visiting a friend of mine, and we were, we just played a softball game. And now we're in a bar, and there's singing, and it's like, Well, wait, what's this magic, I can put a song in, and then they're gonna call my name, and then I get to sing. This is the best thing I've ever heard was was the best thing ever. And then, and that first time was a total disaster. I mean, I picked a song that I picked hearts alone, which first of all, no one wants to hear that in a bar, like no one needs to hear that right. And then I left the big note. I mean, it was just a disaster. But I was super happy about it. I was just like, This is great. And then, and then when I went to get my Masters on the East Coast, I didn't know anybody. And so one of the things I did was just sort of became a local at one of the nearby bars, and they had karaoke every Wednesday, I think it was. And so I just went every Wednesday as my chance and something I always just would look forward to. And I would just be like, I'm going to sing a couple songs and be able to do this thing. And it gets to see like the same people over and over again. And it's just this wonderful, magical experience. And then so from there on out, I just started to look for karaoke bars, wherever I was. And just yeah, just kept singing as a key component of my, my mental health and just general fun. Michael Hingson 33:58 We bought a timeshare at the Lawrence Welk Resorts in Escondido, California in the early 90s. Got a great deal. And they had karaoke on I think it was Saturday nights. And I'm not sure whether that was the first time I did it. But it probably was. One of the things that they did a couple of times is there were people who came and they did it enough that they actually let them take an hour and do a whole karaoke concert. Kris Gowen 34:25 Wow. Which hopefully they knew that because then the people who came just to sing a song or two are like, wait, I have to wait an hour. Michael Hingson 34:33 Oh, it worked out. Yeah, they they always advertise it ahead of time. But also, they started earlier and they actually started like an hour early so people can come to hear the concert and then the regular karaoke time. Started at the usual time. Kris Gowen 34:47 Oh, that sounds fantastic. Yeah, that's yeah, it Michael Hingson 34:49 was it was it was wonderful. And so and you did even with a concert here, some people who will let's just say did better than others. Okay. Yeah, that's okay. Kris Gowen 35:01 It is. I mean, I love that part of community. And I really think that that's, you know, I've alluded to it before, but karaoke is yes, of course, I love to sing. And I love, you know, like, singing in front of people, I think that adds an extra joy to it for me. I mean, some people, it's their living hell, but you know, that's okay. Because that's what variety and life is for. So, I love that aspect. And I love when a person gets called to the microphone, and I don't know who that person is, and I have no idea what they're gonna sing. You can't tell by looking at a person with their song selection is going to be an end. Like, I just love all of that. And then I love going to a, you know, going to a karaoke venue, like regularly and then getting to know those people and just feeling that support and giving that support to people who are being really brave by just stepping out and singing a song in front of others. Michael Hingson 35:59 Oh, since that first time, have you ever done hearts alone again? Oh, yeah. Okay. Kris Gowen 36:03 Oh, yeah. And also, anytime I really now it's sort of funny anytime I think I'll know a song and then I don't sing it very well. I am like that does it? And I like, really, you know, we'll all focus on it. I can't say that I, when it comes to, you know, bar karaoke, singing, I don't really rehearse per se. But I will like, listen to the song a couple of times. So I actually, you know, know it, Michael Hingson 36:29 know, the melody at least, do you? Do you read the words most of the time? Or do you try to memorize words ahead of time? Kris Gowen 36:36 Well, I mean, I like to, it's a good question, because there's a couple of things. One is I like to do a bunch of new stuff a lot. And so I, I do enjoy, therefore, rely, like, being able to read the words and reading the words. And then also, I do find that oftentimes, I then end up using them as a crutch, like, I don't actually need them. But I still look at the screen. And then, however, I've also been dabbling here and there in competitive karaoke. And when you do competitive karaoke, you 100% cannot look at the words like you just you have to engage the audience. And you have to be doing that. And there's no looking at words, when you're, when you're doing that kind of that kind of competition, Michael Hingson 37:27 you have no way to really put the feeling into it that you do if you already know the words, because you're focused on the words, you're not focused on what you need to be focused on. And that makes sense. Kris Gowen 37:40 Yeah, your storytelling doesn't get as good. You're like, again, your audience connection isn't as good. You can't, you know, I mean, depending on how many monitors are there, but it's also difficult to, you know, go to different parts of the stage to to talk to, you know, sort of, quote, unquote, talk to different people in different parts of the room. So you really need to not be tethered to the screen. Yeah, in order to do some of those things, to help create a better performance. Michael Hingson 38:11 I remember once doing karaoke with someone, and they wanted to perform a song and I didn't know all the words to do the melody and all that. And actually, the operator of the system stood next to me. And because I told him, I don't know all the words, he said, don't worry. And he told me the words far enough in advance that I was able to go ahead and put it together, which was really pretty cool. And then actually, it came out pretty well. I wish we'd recorded it, but I don't even remember what the song was. But it was fun to be able to do that. And but for me, I do memorize and practice, before I go only so that I make sure I really do know all the words because it's the only way that I'm going to be able to do it successfully, but it makes it a lot more fun to, to be able to, as you said, connect with the audience in one way or another. Well, and Kris Gowen 38:59 it's funny too, because I appreciate, you know, you needing to, like, you know, memorize the lyrics in advance. And sometimes the lyrics that show up on the screen are definitely not the right lyrics. Like, you look at them and you're like, um, that is really not what I think this person is saying. And, and so, you know, sometimes the the lyrics are incorrect on these in these karaoke tracks. Michael Hingson 39:24 So yeah, which is, which is another whole issue that one has to deal with, but you know, it's it's still is a lot of fun to do. And I've enjoyed it. What's the for you the most rewarding or the thing you love most about doing karaoke? Kris Gowen 39:42 I mean, I really do think it's this this piece of, of community that even if you're only in a like in like, again, when I was going around the US and singing karaoke in all 50 states wherever I was hanging my had that night that was sort of that was my community for the night. And again, it's a very supportive community, and people are cheering each other and people will potentially, you know, strike up a conversation with you. And it is like, you know, when we were talking about the politics stuff at the start of this conversation, you don't know somebody's political affiliation, you don't know, like, you know, who they go home to at night, if anybody you don't know, you just don't know really anything about them. And it's okay, like, we're just, everyone's united. And I mean, my books called One nation under song, in part for that reason, because you really do become this community of humans. And there's a lot of magic in that to then sort of forget about some of the other things that might make you not friends. Outside of that setting. Michael Hingson 40:53 What are some songs that don't make good Karaoke Songs? Or maybe a better way to put it is what makes the best Karaoke Songs? Kris Gowen 41:00 Yeah. So the first one is like if it's super long if there's a lot of long instrumentals. And then And then usually, I mean, not always, but if it's way too slow. I mean, because most karaoke is done in bars. And most karaoke is done late at night. And so, the idea of singing something super long, was super long, instrumentals and slow. Like you just no one wants to, like, people want their turn and people want to like go to a bar to feel probably usually a little peppier. So it's like those things. So. But that said, it's not necessarily the flip side is what makes a good karaoke song. A good karaoke song is the song that's in your heart is a song that matters to you is the song that you want to sing because it is the song you want to sing. Because you can tell when people are singing the song that's bringing them joy. It's, you can just tell and it just becomes a funner performance. Michael Hingson 42:04 I think I mentioned when we chatted before doing this interview about the time we were at Lawrence Welk and it was near the end of the night and one of the servers got up and just started singing from the best little whorehouse in Texas hard candy Christmas. Yes. And did the most incredible performance of that I think I've ever heard outside of and maybe is, is equal to what was in the the musical or the movie. But clearly, she had sung it before, and just in a really wonderful job with it and got a great reaction from the audience. Kris Gowen 42:41 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, again, some people are gonna want to sing the same song over again, and have it be very rehearsed. And there's nothing wrong with that, because that's what makes that person feel comfortable, or the side of them that they want to show. And so I do know, people that sing, you know, a very small repertoire of songs. And that's where they that's again, that's where their comfort is, that's what they want to do. And then I have other friends who are just more like, it's a bar, no one's really listening to me. I just want to sing something that that I want to try, or I you know, again, that's the song that I was singing to on the radio, and I was like, oh, I want to give it a whirl myself. Right. Like, there's just sort of those things. And then, you know, every day is a different mood, and it's a different time. And so what is the song that's calling to at that particular time? And that's, you know, what I when people will turn to me and say, What should I sing? I'm like, Well, what were you Yeah, what were you singing to on the radio? The last time you were listening to the radio, or what did you find yourself? Singing in the shower? The last time I was doing this? Well sing that. Michael Hingson 43:49 So from a long song standpoint, probably. You wouldn't want to go much longer than Don McLean's American Pie, but at least it's a fast tempo song. Kris Gowen 43:58 Yeah, but yeah, American Pie. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's like seven minutes, right? I mean, there is a radio edit and a karaoke edit of that song. So, but yes, like American Pie. Piano Man is even really long. I mean, sometimes people can get into it. But like, if it's over five minutes, you're just like, Yeah, I don't know. Michael Hingson 44:16 It's getting a little bit. It can be a little bit tougher, right? There is Kris Gowen 44:21 no hard and fast rule. I mean, no. Do you have the bar, there's nobody in that bar, I will bust out Come Sail Away, which breaks all the rules. It's too long. It's got like over a minute, instrumental in it, all that stuff, but it's a fun song. And I'm only singing it if there's like a very small rotation of singers. Michael Hingson 44:39 Yeah, yeah. But if people enjoy it, it works. Sure. Sure. So. So how did you get involved in thinking of this idea of singing karaoke in all 50 states, you would love to travel so that gave you a good excuse for doing it. But how did that all come about? Kris Gowen 44:59 Yeah, I mean, The the the slow roll of it was I can't I think there was just one day that I noticed that I was starting to collect states because I again, as an as a former academic, I would go to a lot of conferences. And so sometimes you network in the conferences, and then sometimes you're just sort of like, you know what I don't want to network in a conference, I want to go out on this, I want to see what St. Louis is like, or I want to see what, you know, Tampa, Florida is like, and so you find the karaoke establishment, and you go there to get a little like dose of local flavor of a place. And so I don't know, I had collected maybe nine or 10 states just sort of doing it that way. And then. And then in 2015, my best friend was diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. And I had a good year with her not quite a year, but you know, and when she died, I was like, she and I used to also sing together a lot. And I just, I just kind of was at a loss, for lack of anything else, just like, I couldn't really imagine a life without her I. And so I quit my job. And I drove around the country to say, All right, if my goal is to sing karaoke in all 50 states, I'm doing it this weird trickle, you know, when else am I gonna get to Oklahoma? When else am I going to do? Like, I need to, I need to do this, I need to do this as an actual thing. And so I did, I got in my car. And I drove over 17,000 miles in 99 days to hit the 48 lower states. I took I avoided freeways and interstates whenever possible, because I wanted to actually see the country. And so when I was done, you know, I had a couple months in between, but then I picked up Alaska and Hawaii. So make it off. 50. Michael Hingson 47:05 So you are clearly grieving? How did this really help your grief? Kris Gowen 47:12 In a lot of different ways. And not intentionally mind you? I just was following my, you know, to me, I'm like, what is the one that I didn't really like my job at the time? I you know, I didn't my relationship situation wasn't great. And so I was like, the one thing that still I could find anything to care about was karaoke. It was the only thing that I cared about. That was it. And so I'm like, alright, well, that's something that's good. I'm finding joy in something. And so again, I got in my car and just took off. And the things that made this trip really good for my grief, I think were one singing really helps emotional processing, it helps you get your feelings out, it does all that there was structure to my days, but not too much of a structure. Like I had, I knew that on, you know, I woke up in one state. And I knew that I needed to get to this other state by a certain time. And I had a lot of alone time. I didn't do the whole trip by myself. But I did a lot of the trip by myself. So I had time in a car to sort of just again, let myself feel and let myself exist. I was constantly seeing new things, which is another great brain exercise for building resilience is to experience new things. And yeah, I just, I think this combination of like structured but not too structured, seeing new things, being able to use my emotions and channel them in ways that I enjoy and finding that like one slice of joy that would help me balance it just was a very good way for me to just allow myself to experience what I needed to experience. Michael Hingson 49:03 Did you well rephrase that, do you think that you benefited more from doing the karaoke, or that you've benefited more from doing the travel spending time alone? Having a lot of time to think and process? Kris Gowen 49:21 I mean, I think it's the balance. And I think that's the key to and so like, sort of, in my second book, which is find your song, it's, it's the whole concept of that book is is balancing moments of joy during times of grief. Because we need the balance. You know, like ultimately your body needs a balance your your brain needs a balance that when you provide yourself with the respite of moments of joy during an awful, awful time of life, you're actually allowing yourself to grieve better, you're allowing your body to to have those breaks it It physically needs in order to, to recover. Because grief is impacts us physically, emotionally, mentally. And so if we're always, you know, quote unquote, in it, like just stuck in the, you know, we do need to be in it sometimes I mean, not everybody and and, and I was a person who needed to be in it sometimes. But if I was just always in it, then that was not, that would not be good. Michael Hingson 50:30 What would you advise a person to do? Or how would you advise a person who is experiencing grief? What kinds of things would you say to them? Kris Gowen 50:42 I mean, again, it's sort of again, it's like my, I mean, my book almost outlines, like a bit of a, I'm not gonna say a script, because there is no script. I think the first like, the first chapter is basically like, there is no brief script. So if you think, and also, if you think, you know, you're like, Well, I've lost somebody before, or I've grieved before. Yeah, but this is a different person, and you're a different person, because it's a different time. So you can't be like, Oh, I was like this, when this happened. Now I'm going to I'm going to be the same way, it's just not going to happen. So your grief and your grief experience in the moment is yours. And so to allow your emotions in, allow them to be. And again, don't be afraid, and don't be ashamed if you're experiencing some positive times in amongst the negative. And really being, if you can, being mindful of what are little things you can do to promote self care and to get the supports that you need. And so if you've got that one student, like you're like, the only joy I'm getting right now is watching this television show. Fine, then go for it. If your joy is karaoke, if it's knitting, if it's making Chinese food, I don't know, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how silly it seems. It's not silly, because it's it's, it's your it's your your sister being pointing you in a direction of some form of a finding a little bit of pleasure and a life where it might be hard, and you can't even see any form of pleasure at all, except for quote, unquote, this stupid thing. And this stupid thing is it's not stupid. It's, Michael Hingson 52:25 it's what's important for you at the moment, and you're right, there's, there's no reason to think that anything is stupid. What I think is important is thinking about it and internalizing it to the point where you can, at some point, start to think about, okay, I'm doing this, I'm really enjoying it. I don't want to stop doing it. But how do I also continue then to move forward? I know when my wife passed away, last month to be well, and November, I started saying, like, a number of people always say, Well, you know, you got to move on. And I realized that was the wrong thing to say. Because if you move on, that it to me, it seems like it implies almost that you're possibly forgetting. But what I realized the appropriate thing, at least for me to say is, we do need to move forward. And she would want that. Kris Gowen 53:18 Yeah, yes, I mean, the language, language does matter. And everyone's going to resonate with a certain way. So some people like you're saying move forward resonated with you. Some people are like, move through that we're different. I mean, you're you're different. You, you experienced a profound loss, and I'm sorry for your loss. And there is like, so you are now a different person. And so it's like, okay, who's this new? Who is this new, Michael? And how does this new Michael want to navigate through through the universe, and for a little while, you might be like, oh, and navigate through this universe at all, and other people have ideas. Because sometimes the grief and the loss is more expected than others. So some people have done some anticipatory grief or is like some, some preparing and other times, the universe does not provide us with that opportunity to sort of think about life without that person Michael Hingson 54:17 whose case it was kind of half and half. I wouldn't say that it was totally unexpected, but not as fast as it it occurred. And also, no matter how much you expect it. It's really different when it's occurred, and now you are actually in a different space, in my case alone. So there there are things I do differently. And sometimes I wonder why am I doing it differently? And I realized, well, that's because now it's the way it is so I wake up earlier, I turn the TV on when I get up in the morning and Karen always used to get up much later than ice. I'd never turned the TV on until we I go out In the other room and close the door. So a lot of things that are different, but it's also okay. And I'm sure it will evolve some more over time. But I happen to be a person that likes to continue to move. And I get the joy, I will say, of doing this podcast, which is so much fun. And I get to learn so much, though all of all of the time that I get to spend with you and others is such an enjoyable thing for me. And it's been that way ever since the beginning of the podcast, but it's so much better even now. Kris Gowen 55:34 Yeah, and it's, I mean, it's, again, it's, it's some connection that you're getting for a little bit of time, it's a project that hopefully isn't too overwhelming for you. And it is these these pieces that just help you sort of take every, you know, take things day to day in that very mindfulness, that mindfulness way because again, it's not like, you know, there's the Kubler Ross stages of grief. And there's these other things and, and, you know, if I look at my, you know, grief journey, if you will, it's really just a big scribble. You know, because there's, there'll be days, I mean, Molly died in 2016. And so it's been several years since she's been gone. And, you know, for the most part, you know, I'm I function through the day to day, I still think about her every day, there's something in the world that makes me think about her. And then there's some times where it's just a gut punch. It's just like, it's like, it's like, it wasn't that long ago at all. And there's, there's other times where it's, it's not doesn't feel that way. Michael Hingson 56:41 And for me, I don't ever want it to be that long ago. And I will always remember and I think that it's important. Well, when you're married for 40 years, minus 15 days, that's not a surprise. But I wouldn't want I wouldn't want that to change. There's so much to remember about her and, and all of the wonderful times the memories will always be here. And that's an important thing. Yes, definitely. So then the pandemic hit you remember that pandemic thing? And, yeah, well, I'm Kris Gowen 57:12 still here. Michael Hingson 57:13 Little things are crawling all over the place. And you wrote another book. Kris Gowen 57:17 Yeah. And that's the book that the Find Your song is, is where so I wrote one nation under song as like, when I completed that karaoke journey. And then I never really had the intention of writing a book from it, I just got back and I was like, I'm not done. I'm not done. Not done. And so like, that book just sort of came forward. And I, you know, worked on it that way. And then, during the pandemic, I, I wish I could remember, I'm sure it's brain fog, or whatever have you or just the COVID time messing this, but like, I just noticed that like I was grieving the world was grieving. The two things that really bring me like, are the three things that bring me joy, karaoke, can't do that. That's like one of the worst things you do during a pandemic, travel can't do that. So like the two things that helped me through my, you know, that the loss of Mali, those were way off the table, and then even being in community and being with friends or something, well, that was on the table in a very small dose, right, you couldn't just go out and see people. So I was left with being stripped of the my coping mechanisms. And so one of the other coping mechanisms I still sort of had was writing. And the thing I wanted to write about was the thing that I was experiencing, which was grief and being the researcher that I am I went to literature and I looked at grief literature and, and just started writing about this concept of joy and grief and and synthesizing the science, my own personal experiences and, and my own abilities to synthesize literature as a researcher. Yeah, I just I, like I said, it's, it's a tiny little book. And, you know, so it's digestible for people who are going through grief because, you know, can't really read a lot when you're super sad. And, and you Yeah, it just takes people through sort of things to consider others meditations in it, that you can use exercises that you can do if you find those fun, and otherwise, it's just, it helped me and I just hope it helps other other people without being really super prescriptive, like do it this way. It's not that kind of book. Michael Hingson 59:47 No, I'm curious. You during the pandemic, of course, she had travel issues and so on, and I appreciate that I came back from New York on March 6 of 2020 is They closed down the city I escaped and made it back to California. Can you travel and get anywhere near the same level of enjoyment by doing it virtually? Kris Gowen 1:00:12 Travel virtually, or karaoke virtually Michael Hingson 1:00:15 traveled? Well, we could talk about karaoke too, but I was thinking more of travel virtually. Kris Gowen 1:00:19 I'm, I don't I mean, not for me, I'm gonna say I think other people, it might answer that differently. And I'm way too much of a people person. And way too much of a person that needs to absorb the ambiance. And the feelings that I'm have the space around me to really get the sense of I've been there without actually physically being there, Michael Hingson 1:00:50 there is nothing like experiencing the ocean by being there. And I don't necessarily even mean walking into the ocean, although that, for me becomes a part of it as well. But the sound is different, it is just a total different thing, or going to a live performance. And listening to the orchestra, and or to a musical and listening in watching it live. The sound the whole ambiance, although I can cope with doing things virtually. And I can watch movies virtually Well, or, you know, online or however. But there's nothing, absolutely nothing. Like being in a Broadway theater and observing a performance. Michael Hingson 1:01:40 Yeah, you feel the energy and you feel the energy, Michael Hingson 1:01:44 the sound is totally different. And I'm sure that the site is as well. We went to see Lion King, what as soon after it came out, and my brother in law, his wife, and their daughter, three years old, were visiting us and a friend of his new one of the actors and got us into the Lion King. And Karen was telling me, my wife was we were watching and she said, you know, you really forget about the puppets, you just see the animals and you forget that it's people behind them. And then after the show, we got to go back stage and meet several of the actors. And I actually got to look at a couple of the puppets. And although I experienced, obviously different than she did, and the others, I understood what they were saying, but there is just nothing like the energy of being in a live performance or in a situation. So I think you can see a lot by traveling virtually. But it is still not the same as being there. Kris Gowen 1:02:47 Yes, I mean, I think it's, it's better than not doing anything and seeing the same four walls or one block or whatever, of where you're situated. And yeah, and for me, it's not the same. And I don't want to take away the experience of other people have that experience that differently. Michael Hingson 1:03:05 Well, the other part about it is is virtual reality improves. I wonder how much that will affect our ability to maybe have a better experience? Don't know the answer to that yet. We're to near the beginning of that whole process, though, to really know. Kris Gowen 1:03:22 Yeah, it is interesting, because buildings, maybe, but again, like if you're looking for the people energy, you're still not gonna be able to get that. But if you want to look at like, you know, a castle, or some a temple or something like that, and just can't be immersed. Michael Hingson 1:03:39 Even people, maybe you can, again, depends on how good and effective the virtual reality is, how good the sound is, how good every aspect of it is. But that's something that only time is going to really tell but I suspect, they'll always be something that is hard to replicate in a virtual reality mode, as opposed to actually being there. And that's part of the fun and even if you get all the same sensations going somewhere, you still know you're there, which is just in itself kind of fun. Kris Gowen 1:04:17 Yeah, for sure. Michael Hingson 1:04:20 Well, this has been really a lot of fun to to do. I've enjoyed it. If tell Miss, where people can get your books and the names of the books again, and how could they reach out to you if they want to learn more about you if you're doing consulting that may be relevant for people, how do they get to you and all that stuff? Kris Gowen 1:04:39 Yeah, so let's see. It's um, like now trying to figure out which hat for which which contact LinkedIn? Probably LinkedIn is probably the easiest for consulting and things like that or just being in touch. And my two books are one nation under song and find your Song and they are both on Amazon. And my publisher went under when I was during the pandemic, so they're currently in self published mode. And so other booksellers will pick them up because they're through Ingram Spark. So it's not just Amazon, it can be through a Barnes and Nobles online or a Pauwels, or something like that. And yeah, LinkedIn would probably be the easiest place. Michael Hingson 1:05:27 How do people find you on LinkedIn? Kris? Gowen, Kris Gowen 1:05:30 K R I S G O W E N. Michael Hingson 1:05:33 That will that will find you How about your book on sex education and so on? Is that still available? Kris Gowen 1:05:38 I think it actually is. And also, again, like sort of major retailer booksellers, I think it's that's through Rowman and Littlefield. And I think they still, I think they still churn it out every once in a while. It's certainly not my retirement plan. But I think it's still, it's still out there and
In Breaking Walls episode 139 we spotlight The Martin & Lewis show, and pay close attention to Frank Sinatra and Marilyn Monroe. —————————— Highlights: • Capital Gains and Thanksgiving on NBC • The Nightclub Act • Opportunity Flops • The My Friend Irma Movie • Dragnet • The Show Relaunches — Frank Sinatra Guests • Marilyn Monroe Makes a Rare Radio Appearance • Splitting, Then Reuniting • Looking ahead to Bogie —————————— The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: http://patreon.com/TheWallBreakers —————————— The reading material for today's episode was: • On The Air — By John Dunning • Dean & Me: A Love Story — By Jerry Lewis • Everybody Loves Somebody Sometime (Especially Himself): The Story of Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis — by Arthur Marx • Network Radio Ratings — By Jim Ramsburg • Marilyn Monroe: The Biography — By Donald Spoto As well as articles from: • Billboard • The Cleveland Plain Dealer • LIFE Magazine • The Los Angeles Times • The New York Times • Variety —————————— On the interview front: • Jack Benny and Virginia Gregg spoke with Chuck Schaden. Hear these interviews at SpeakingofRadio.com. • John Gibson spoke to Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran for WTIC's The Golden Age of Radio. Hear these full interviews at GoldenAge-WTIC.org. • Both Frank and Nancy Sinatra Jr. spoke with Larry King. • Marilyn Monroe spoke with Dave Garroway for NBC's Monitor in 1955. • Both Martin and Lewis spoke with Cedric Adams for WCCO in 1952. • Dean Martin spoke with Edward R. Murrow in 1958 and with Randi Oakes in 1984 • Jerry Lewis spoke with Sam Denoff for The Television Academy in 2000. —————————— Selected music featured in today's episode was: • Hen Ferchetan — By Avi Avital • Memories Are Made of This — By Dean Martin • Manhattan Serenade — By Richard Alden —————————— A special thank you to Ted Davenport, Jerry Haendiges, and Gordon Skene. For Ted go to RadioMemories.com, for Jerry, visit OTRSite.com, and for Gordon, please go to PastDaily.com. —————————— Thank you to: Tony Adams Steven Allmon Orson Orsen Chandler Phil Erickson Jessica Hanna Perri Harper Thomas M. Joyce Ryan Kramer Earl Millard Gary Mollica Barry Nadler Christian Neuhaus Ray Shaw Filipe A Silva John Williams —————————— WallBreakers Links: Patreon - patreon.com/thewallbreakers Social Media - @TheWallBreakers
00:00 - 33:50 - The Ladies Man 33:50 - 51:56 - Malcolm in the Middle 51:56 - 1:24:51 - Inferno we're joined by Brianna Zigler ( @justbrizigs ) on this week's episode, for a real whopper of a double feature. movies about big crazy houses and the women that inhabit them. Jerry Lewis' The Ladies Man is his highest artistic achievement. Dario Argento's Inferno is one of the most trance-inducing horror movies of its era. we also returned to the classic mode of Malcolm in the Middle, where we talked about Woody Allen's Deconstructing Harry, Joanna Arnow's i hate myself :) , Charlie Day's Fool's Paradise, and Disney's Return of the Jedi.
Well, that brings our look at The Martin & Lewis Show to a close. Incidentally, we'll be staying with this energy next month. I mentioned earlier that Dean made films with The Rat Pack. Frank Sinatra was also a member. Some people called Frank the leader. Some others have incorrectly attributed him as the founder of this crew. But, our focus in Breaking Walls episode 140 will spotlight the true creator of The Rat Pack. Next time on Breaking Walls, we focus on Bogie, and Bacall too, when we spotlight the unsung radio career of Humphrey Bogart. —————————— The reading material for today's episode was: • On The Air — By John Dunning • Dean & Me: A Love Story — By Jerry Lewis • Everybody Loves Somebody Sometime (Especially Himself): The Story of Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis — by Arthur Marx • Network Radio Ratings — By Jim Ramsburg • Marilyn Monroe: The Biography — By Donald Spoto As well as articles from: • Billboard • The Cleveland Plain Dealer • LIFE Magazine • The Los Angeles Times • The New York Times • Variety —————————— On the interview front: • Jack Benny and Virginia Gregg spoke with Chuck Schaden. Hear these interviews at SpeakingofRadio.com. • John Gibson spoke to Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran for WTIC's The Golden Age of Radio. Hear these full interviews at GoldenAge-WTIC.org. • Both Frank and Nancy Sinatra Jr. spoke with Larry King. • Marilyn Monroe spoke with Dave Garroway for NBC's Monitor in 1955. • Both Martin and Lewis spoke with Cedric Adams for WCCO in 1952. • Dean Martin spoke with Edward R. Murrow in 1958 and with Randi Oakes in 1984 • Jerry Lewis spoke with Sam Denoff for The Television Academy in 2000.
By the summer of 1953 network radio was allocating increasing time to local affiliates. Budgets were shifting to TV. The final episode of The Martin & Lewis show aired on July 14th at 9PM eastern time. Gloria Graham was the guest. Opposite on CBS, Yours Truly Johnny Dollar aired starring John Lund. Dean and Jerry made six more films together. Their last was Hollywood Or Bust in 1956. During shooting in 1956, their mutual animosity reached the point where Lewis would only speak to Martin through director Frank Tashlin, and Martin told Lewis he was nothing but a dollar sign. After the film completed principal photography on June 19th, their breakup was widely reported. They fulfilled their contractual obligations with a farewell engagement at the Copacabana Club. Their last appearance was on July 25th, 1956, exactly ten years after their first teaming in Atlantic City. Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis didn't speak again privately for twenty years. Although both continued to thank each other publicly, like in this Dean Martin interview with Edward R. Murrow from 1958. They crossed paths that year when Lewis was a guest on Eddie Fisher's TV show. Martin jumped out from behind a curtain with a memorable line. The crowd—and Lewis—couldn't contain their affection. Free from Lewis, Dean Martin became a huge star, both as a recording artist, as a movie actor on his own and as a member of the Rat Pack. He also hosted his own hugely successful TV variety series, The Dean Martin Show. Lewis remained with Paramount Pictures, appearing in and directing a succession of commercially successful films, at one point becoming Paramount's biggest star. He continued philanthropic work, which led to mutual good friend Frank Sinatra finally reuniting the duo on live TV during Jerry Lewis' 1976 Labor Day telethon. They embraced, with Lewis in tears, and their friendship renewed. Both claimed they spoke every day from then on.
Nick is joined by Mike Kerz, the owner of The Midway Drive-In in Dixon Illinois, to talk about the 90th anniversary of the opening of the very first drive-in. They talk about the history of the drive-in, the great events that will take place during this special season and some of the historic promotions and events that Mike has been responsible for creating. Plus, The Flashback Weekend Horror Convention with it's great guests (like Rose McGowan from "Scream," the cast of the "Terrifier" movies, and the car from "Christine!") is discussed as well. Then Esmeralda Leon and Nick honor Esma's upcoming trip to Las Vegas by talking about the legendary Vegas performers like Frank Sinatra, Liberace, David Copperfield, Phyllis Diller, and more. Nick also talks about the time he actually did a wacky bit with Jerry Lewis (!) during one of his stage shows! Vegas Baby! [EP140]
Dick Cavett is a trailblazing tv host who played a defining role in shaping the talk format during the late 1960s. His show eventually became the favored place for legends like Ali, Lennon, Brando and Hendrix to a sit down for a compelling long-form conversation rarely seen on television today. This week we sit down to find out how a humble small town boy from Nebraska went from a comedy writer to Groucho Marx and Jerry Lewis to become an icon of television and one of the most revered talk show hosts of all time. Have any comments, feedback or suggestions for upcoming guests? We'd love to hear from you. Email us at: email@example.com https://www.theplugwithjustinjay.com/ https://justinjay.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
As part of NBC's programming development, One-point-five Million dollars was allocated towards new shows. The network's first major signing was Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. In August of 1948 they made their Hollywood debut at Slapsie Maxie's. They were soon guest-starring on Milton Berle's TV show, and other comedians thought their Elgin appearance groundbreaking. On December 22nd the duo recorded an audition with Bob Hope. Hope recorded a new set with Martin & Lewis on March 24th, 1949. Things quickly fell apart as the trio couldn't help but adlib. NBC picked the series, marketing the team as the next big sensation in radio. Their agent, Abby Greshler, negotiated a great deal with Paramount's Hal Wallis. They'd receive seventy-five thousand dollars for films and were free to do one outside film a year, which they would co-produce through their own York Productions. The duo also had complete control of their club, radio, and TV appearances, as well as their recording contracts. In the lead up to the premiere of their radio show, Martin and Lewis appeared on the March of Dimes, the Chesterfield Supper Club, the Sealtest Variety Theatre, and The Bob Hope Show. The Martin & Lewis Show finally debuted on April 3rd, 1949. Their first guest was Lucille Ball. It has a similar script to the audition recorded with Bob Hope. But The Martin & Lewis Show was a flop. No sponsor was interested in advertising such a visual team on a sound-only medium. They switched broadcasting locations from Hollywood, to New York, then back to Hollywood. They also brought in new writers and characters. Nothing worked. NBC pulled the plug after the September 6th broadcast.
Jerry Lewis was born Jerome Joseph Levitch on March 16th, 1926 in Newark, New Jersey. His father was a Vaudevillian and his mother was a pianist for WOR. By fifteen, Lewis had developed a "Record Act", miming lyrics to songs while a phonograph played offstage. To supplement his income he worked as a soda jerk at the Paramount Theater while he honed his act. In 1943, Lewis met singer Dino Paul Crocetti thanks to Frank Sinatra's mother Dolly. They became friends. Dino Crocetti was born on June 7th, 1917 in Steubenville, Ohio. He spoke only Italian until age five, got bullied for his broken English in school, and eventually dropped out in the tenth grade. By fifteen Crocetti had bootlegged liquor, worked in a steel mill, served as a croupier at a speakeasy, and was a welterweight boxer. Boxing got him, among other things, a broken nose and a scarred lip. He'd later get the nose fixed. Dino then worked as a roulette stickman in an illegal casino behind a tobacco shop, and started singing with local bands, calling himself "Dino Martini." By late 1940 he had begun singing for Cleveland bandleader Sammy Watkins, who suggested he change his name to Dean Martin. In the fall of 1943 he'd begun performing in New York, but was drafted into the military during World War II. Dean served fourteen months before being discharged due to a hernia. Although they were friends for more than a year, Dean and Jerry didn't officially team up until debuting at Atlantic City's 500 Club as Martin and Lewis on July 25th, 1946. The highlights of their act included Lewis heckling Martin while he was trying to sing, which ultimately led to them chasing each other around the stage. People loved their improvisational style. And Lewis knew that Martin was his comic equal. Martin and Lewis' success at the 500 Club led to a series of well-paying engagements along the Eastern Seaboard, culminating with a run at New York's Copacabana Club. Almost overnight, the two were the biggest smash hit in clubs across the country.
It's 4PM eastern time on November 25th, 1948. Elgin Watches annual Thanksgiving Day special is on the air from NBC's KFI in Hollywood. Don Ameche is the emcee. Ken Carpenter is announcing. This November Radio ratings are robust. Eleven shows have ratings higher than twenty points, and Lux Radio Theatre's 33.2 is the most listened-to show on the air. But a major shift is about to happen just as the TV era launches. In 1948 comedian Jack Benny organized his activities into a corporation. At that time American individuals were taxed seventy-seven percent on all income over seventy thousand dollars. Benny's hope was to secure a deal with NBC for his company, so that he could be taxed under capital gains laws at 25%. NBC's parent company was the Radio Corporation of America. Their head, David Saroff, refused. Amos N' Andy were the first to secure such a deal. They jumped to CBS in October of 1948. Then Lew Wasserman and Taft Shreiber—President and VP of The Music Corporation of America, called head of CBS William Paley to see if he was interested in a similar deal for Jack Benny. In November, David Sarnoff got word and sent NBC president Niles Trammel to California with orders to keep Benny at NBC, but Sarnoff refused to be there. William Paley flew to LA to meet in person, agreeing for CBS to buy Benny's corporation for $2.26 Million. NBC responded by doubling their offer. However, Lew Wasserman again intervened, obtained the NBC contract, changed every mention of NBC to CBS, and re-offered the deal to Benny, who then signed it. Although Benny was signed, Paley next had to convince Benny's sponsor American Tobacco to make the move. He did so by guaranteeing that CBS would pay the cigarette giant three thousand dollars per week for every ratings point lost after the migration. Floored that Paley would offer this, all parties agreed immediately. On Thanksgiving in 1948, William Paley had plenty to be thankful for. While Jack Benny was appearing on NBC for this Elgin Special, CBS announced on their evening news that The Jack Benny Program would be jumping to CBS. When asked that evening by the United Press, Benny declined to comment. It touched off a firestorm between the two networks. NBC claimed any such deal was unlawful. David Sarnoff said “leadership built on a foundation of solid service can't be snatched overnight by a few high-priced comedians. Leadership is no laughing matter.” It was the biggest mistake of Sarnoff's career. Jack Benny left NBC at the end of the year. Edgar Bergen too. There was suddenly a glaring hole in NBC's Sunday night lineup. Between Benny and Bergen, NBC would need to replace roughly forty-five million listeners come January. In 1949, Burns and Allen, and Bing Crosby followed to CBS. NBC's desperation created major opportunities. Among those to benefit were a comedic duo who'd been selling out nightclubs all over the country. Their names were Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis.
GGACP celebrates the birthday (April 3) of one of Gilbert and Frank's favorite guests: singer, actor and music producer Tony Orlando, by presenting this ENCORE of an unforgettable interview from 2016. In this episode, Tony reminisces about singing doo-wop on New York City rooftops, hustling for gigs at the world-famous Brill Building and working alongside music icons Carole King, Gerry Goffin and Clive Davis. Also, Tony remembers Freddie Prinze, gives props to Jerry Lewis, locks horns with "The Great One" and reveals the happy accident that created Tony Orlando and Dawn. PLUS: Tony roasts Dean Martin! Nancy Walker takes her revenge! Shecky Greene flips out! And the boys joins Tony for a "rendition" of "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices