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Jenny Slate is a connoisseur of finer things. Ed invites her to revisit an epic failure on the part of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette as they attempt to flee revolution, yet cling to their superfluous lifestyle. Will they make it to the city of Varennes or lose their lavish heads in the process? Subscribe to the SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPodBuy the SNAFU book: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, I'm joined by Virginie Raphael — investor, entrepreneur, and philosopher of work — for a wide-ranging conversation about incentives, technology, and how we build systems that scale without losing their humanity. We talk about her background growing up around her family's flower business, and how those early experiences shaped the way she thinks about labor, value, and operating in the real economy. That foundation carries through to her work as an investor, where she brings an operator's lens to evaluating businesses and ideas. We explore how incentives quietly shape outcomes across industries, especially in healthcare. Virginie shares why telehealth was a meaningful shift and what needs to change to move beyond one-to-one, supply-constrained models of care. We also dig into AI, venture capital, and the mistakes founders commonly make today — from hiring sales teams too early to raising too much money too fast. Virginie offers candid advice on pitching investors, why thoughtful cold outreach still works, and how doing real research signals respect and fit. The conversation closes with a contrarian take on selling: why it's not a numbers game, how focus and pre-qualification drive better outcomes, and why knowing who not to target is just as valuable as finding the right people. If you're thinking about the future of work, building with intention, or navigating entrepreneurship in an AI-accelerated world, this episode is for you. And for more conversations like this, join us at Snafu Conference 2026 on March 5th, where we'll keep exploring incentives, human skills, and what it really takes to build things that last. Start (0:00) Reflections on Work, Geography, and AI Adoption Virginie shares what she's noticing as trends in work and tech adoption: Geographic focus: she's excited to explore AI adoption outside traditional tech hubs. Examples: Atlanta, Nashville, Durham, Utah, Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, parts of the Midwest. Rationale: businesses in these regions may adopt AI faster due to budgets, urgency, and impatience for tech that doesn't perform. "There are big corporates, there are middle and small businesses in those geos that have budget that will need the tech… and/or have less patience, I should say, for over-hub technologies that don't work." She notes that transitions to transformational technology never happen overnight, which creates opportunities: "We always underestimate how much time a transition to making anything that's so transformational… truly ubiquitous… just tends to think that it will happen overnight and it never does." Robin adds context from her own experience with Robin's Cafe and San Francisco's Mission District: Observed cultural and business momentum tied to geography Mentions Hollywood decline and rise of alternative media hubs (Atlanta, Morocco, New Jersey) Virginie reflects on COVID's impact on workforce behaviors: Opened a "window" to new modes of work and accelerated change: "There were many preexisting trends… but I do think that COVID gave a bit of a window into what was possible." Emphasis on structural change: workforce shifts require multi-year perspective and infrastructure, not just trends. Investor, Mission, and Capital Philosophy Virginie clarifies she is an investor, not a venture capitalist, resisting labels and prestige metrics. "I don't call myself a venture capitalist… I just say investor." Focuses on outcomes over categories, investing in solutions that advance the world she wants to see rather than chasing trendy tech sectors. "The outcome we want to see is everyone having the mode of work that suits them best throughout their lives." Portfolio themes: Access: helping people discover jobs they wouldn't otherwise know about. Retention / support: preventing workforce dropouts, providing appropriate healthcare, childcare, and caregiving support. "Anyone anywhere building towards that vision is investible by us." Critiques traditional venture capital practices: Raising VC money is not inherently a sign of success. "Raising from a VC is just not a sign of success. It's a milestone, not the goal." Concerned about concentration of capital into a few funds, leaving many founders unsupported. "There's a sense… that the work we do commands a lot less power in the world, a lot less effectiveness than holding the capital to hire that labor." Emphasizes structural, mission-driven investing over chasing categories: Invests in companies that prevent workforce dropouts, expand opportunity, and create equitable access to meaningful work. Portfolio strategy is diversified, focusing on infrastructure and long-term impact rather than quick wins. "We've tracked over time what type of founders and what type of solutions we attract and it's exactly the type of deal that we want to see." Reflects on COVID and societal trends as a lens for her investment thesis: "COVID gave a bit of a window into what was possible," highlighting alternative modes of work and talent distribution that are often overlooked. Labor, Ownership, and Durable Skills Virginie reframes the concept of labor, wages, and ownership: "The word labor in and of itself… is something we need to change." Interested in agency and ownership as investment opportunities, especially for small businesses transitioning to employee ownership. "For a very long time… there's been a shift towards knowledge work and how those people are compensated. If you go on the blue-collar side… it's about wages still and labor." Emphasizes proper capitalization and alignment of funds to support meaningful exits for smaller businesses, rather than chasing massive exits that drive the VC zeitgeist. AI fits into this discussion as part of broader investment considerations. Childhood experience in family flower business shaped her entrepreneurial and labor perspective: Selling flowers, handling cash, and interacting with customers taught "durable skills" that persisted into adulthood. "When I think of labor, I think of literally planting pumpkin plants… pulling espresso shots… bringing a customer behind the counter." Observing her father start a business from scratch instilled risk-taking and entrepreneurial spirit. "Seeing my dad do this when I was seven… definitely part of that." Skills like sales acumen, handling money, and talking to adults were early lessons that translated into professional confidence. Non-linear career paths and expanding exposure to opportunity: Concerned that students often see only a narrow range of job options: "Kids go out of high school, they can think of three jobs, two of which are their parents' jobs… Surely because we do a poor job exposing them to other things." Advocates for creating more flexible and exploratory career pathways for young people and adults alike. Durable skills and language shaping work: Introduction of the term "durable skills" reframes how competencies are understood: "I use it all the time now… as a proof point for why we need to change language." Highlights the stigma and limitations of words like "soft skills" or "fractional work": Fractional roles are high-impact and intentional, not temporary or inferior. "Brilliant people who wanna work on a fractional basis… they truly wanna work differently… on a portfolio of things they're particularly good at solving." Work in Progress uses language intentionally to shift perceptions and empower people around work. Cultural significance of language in understanding work and people: Virginie notes that language carries stigma and meaning that shapes opportunities and perception. References Louis Thomas's essays as inspiration for attention to the nuance and power of words: He'll take the word discipline and distill it into its root, tie it back into the natural world." Robin shares a personal anecdote about language and culture: "You can always use Google Translate… but also it's somebody learning DIA or trying to learn dharia, which is Moroccan Arabic… because my fiance is Moroccan." Human-Positive AI, Process, and Apprenticeship Virginie emphasizes the value of process over pure efficiency, especially in investing and work: "It's not about the outcome often, it's about the process… there is truly an apprenticeship quality to venture and investing." Using AI to accelerate tasks like investment memos is possible, but the human learning and iterative discussion is critical: "There's some beauty in that inefficiency, that I think we ought not to lose." AI should augment human work rather than replace the nuanced judgment, particularly in roles requiring creativity, judgment, and relationship-building: "No individual should be in a job that's either unsafe or totally boring or a hundred percent automatable." Introduces the term "human-positive AI" to highlight tools that enhance human potential rather than simply automate tasks: "How do we use it to truly augment the work that we do and augment the people?" Project selection and learning as a metric of value: Virginie evaluates opportunities not just on outcome, but what she will learn and who she becomes by doing the work: "If this project were to fail, what would I still learn? What would I still get out of it?" Cites examples like running a one-day SNAFU conference to engage people in human-centered selling principles: "Who do I become as a result of doing that is always been much more important to me than the concrete outcomes of this thing going well." AI Bubble, Transition, and Opportunity Discusses the current AI landscape and the comparison to past tech bubbles: "I think we're in an AI bubble… 1999 was a tech bubble and Amazon grew out of it." Differentiates between speculative hype and foundational technological transformation: "It is fundamental. It is foundational. It is transformative. There's no question about that." Highlights the lag between technological introduction and widespread adoption: "There's always a pendulum swing… it takes time for massively transformative technology to fully integrate." AI as an enabler, not a replacement: Transition periods create opportunity for investment and human-positive augmentation. Examples from healthcare illustrate AI's potential when applied correctly: "We need other people to care for other people. Should we leverage AI so the doctor doesn't have to face away from the patient taking notes? Yes, ambient scribing is wonderful." Emphasizes building AI around real human use cases and avoiding over-automation: "What are the true use cases for it that make a ton of sense versus the ones we need to stay away from?" History and parallels with autonomous vehicles illustrate the delay between hype and full implementation: Lyft/Uber example: companies predicted autonomous vehicles as cost drivers; the transition opened up gig work: "I was a gig worker long before that was a term… the conversation around benefits and portability is still ongoing." AI will similarly require time to stabilize and integrate into workflows while creating new jobs. Bias, Structural Challenges, and Real-World AI Experiments Discusses the importance of addressing systemic bias in AI and tech: Shares the LinkedIn "#WearThePants" experiment: women altered gender identifiers to measure algorithmic reach: "They changed their picture, in some cases changed their names… and got much more massive reach." Demonstrates that AI can perpetuate structural biases baked into systems and historical behavior: "It's not just about building AI that's unbiased; it's about understanding what the algorithm might learn from centuries of entrenched behavior." Highlights the ongoing challenge of designing AI to avoid reinforcing existing inequities: "Now you understand the deeply structural ingrained issues we need to solve to not continue to compound what is already massively problematic." Parenting, Durable Skills, and Resilience Focus on instilling adaptability and problem-solving in children: "I refuse to problem solve for them. If they forget their homework, they figure it out, they email the teacher, they apologize the next day. I don't care. I don't help them." Emphasizes allowing children to navigate consequences themselves to build independence: "If he forgets his flute, he forgets his flute. I am not making the extra trip to school to bring him his flute." Everyday activities are opportunities to cultivate soft skills and confidence: "I let them order themselves at the restaurant… they need to look the waiter in the eye and order themselves… you need to speak more clearly or speak loudly." Cultural context and exposure shape learning: Practices like family meals without devices help children appreciate attention, respect, and communication: "No iPad or iPhone on our table… we sit properly, enjoy a meal together, and talk about things." Travel and cultural exposure are part of teaching adaptability and perspective: "We spent some time in France over the summer… the mindset they get from that is that meals matter, and people operate differently." Respecting individuality while fostering independence: "They are their own people and you need to respect that and step away… give them the ability to figure out who they are and what they like to do." Parenting as a balance of guidance and autonomy: "Feel like that was a handbook that you just offered for parenting or for management? Either one. Nobody prepares you for that… part of figuring out." Future of Work and Technology Horizons Timeframes for predicting trends: Focus on a 5-year horizon as a middle ground between short-term unpredictability and long-term uncertainty: "Five years feels like this middle zone that I'm kind of guessing in the haze, but I can kind of see some odd shapes." Short-term (6–18 months) is more precise; long-term (10–15 years) is harder to anticipate: "I'm a breezy investor. Six months at a time max… deal making between two people still matters in 18 months." Identifying emerging technologies with latent potential: Invests in technologies that are ready for massive impact but haven't yet had a "moment": "I like to look at technologies that have yet to have a moment… the combo of VR and AI is prime." Example: Skill Maker, a VR+AI training platform for auto technicians, addressing both a labor shortage and outdated certification processes: "We are short 650,000 auto technicians… if you can train a technician closer to a month or two versus two years, I promise you the auto shops are all over you." Focuses on alignment of incentives, business model innovation, and meaningful outcomes: "You train people faster, even expert technicians can benefit… earn more money… right, not as meaningful to them and not as profitable otherwise." Principles guiding technology and investment choices: Solving enduring problems rather than temporary fads: "What is a problem that is still not going to go away within the next 10–15 years?" Ensuring impact at scale while creating economic and personal value for participants: "Can make a huge difference in the lives of 650,000 people who would then have good paying jobs." Scaling, Incentives, and Opportunity Re-examining traditional practices and identifying opportunities for change: "If you've done a very specific thing the exact same way, at some point, that's prime to change." Telehealth is an example: while helpful for remote access, it hasn't fundamentally created capacity: "You're still in that one-to-one patient's relationship and an hour of your time with a provider is still an hour at a time." Next version of telehealth should aim to scale care beyond individual constraints: "Where do we take telehealth next… what is the next version of that that enables you to truly scale and change?" Incentives shape outcomes: "Thinking through that and all the incentives… if I were to change the incentives, then people would behave differently? The answer very often is yes, indeed." Paraphrasing Charlie Munger: "Look for the incentives and I can tell you the outcome." Founders, Pitching, and Common Mistakes Pet peeves in founder pitches: Lack of research and generic outreach is a major turn-off: "I can really quickly tell if you have indeed spent a fraction of a minute on my site… dear sir, automatic junk. I won't even read the thing." Well-crafted, thoughtful cold inbound pitches get attention: "Take some time. A well crafted cold inbound will get my attention… you don't need to figure out an intro." Big mistakes entrepreneurs make: Hiring too early, especially in sales: "Until you have a playbook, like don't hire a sales team… if you don't have about a million in revenue, you're probably not ready." Raising too much capital too quickly: "You get into that, you're just gonna spend a lot more time fundraising than you are building a company." Comparing oneself to others: "You don't know if it's true… there's always a backstory… that overnight success was 15 years in the making." Sales Strategy and Non-Sales Selling Approach is contrarian: focus on conversion, not volume: "It is not a numbers game. I think it's a conversion game… I would much rather spend more time with a narrower set of targets and drive better conversion." Understanding fit is key: "You gotta find your people… and just finding who is not or should not be on your list is equally valuable." Recognizes that each fund and business is unique, so a tailored approach is essential: "The pitch is better when I'm talking to the quote unquote right people in the right place about the right things." Where to Find Virginie and Her Work Resources for listeners: Full Circle Fund: fullcirclefund.io  Work in Progress: workinprogress.io  LinkedIn: Virginie Raphael  Where to Access Snafu Go to joinsnafu.com and sign up for free.  

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Welcome to Jake's Happy Nostalgia Show, the podcast where nostalgia comes alive!This week, we're delighted to welcome Canadian puppeteer, voice actor, and creator Ingrid Hansen. Ingrid joins us to talk about her early roles bringing characters like Gertie G. Gopher on Tiga Talk, Skeeter on Tick & Skeeter, and Melissa the Dog on Seasons 2 and 3 of Miss Persona to life. We also dive into her best-known work as the lovable, curious Heart on Helpsters, as well as her exciting recent journey into the world of Fraggle Rock: Back to the Rock, where she serves as the body performer for Ma Gorg and performs Lanford along with a wide range of background characters. Ingrid also discusses the creative spark behind co-founding SNAFU Dance Theatre. Tune in for stories, inspiration, and a joyous peek into the art of puppetry!Connect with Ingrid and check out SNAFU!https://www.ingi.ca/https://www.facebook.com/ingihansenhttps://www.instagram.com/iamingridhansen/https://linktr.ee/snafudanceTaping date: December 9, 2024Edited by: Mileshttps://www.youtube.com/@Miles02109Be sure to check out our website, where you can learn more about the podcast and find how to follow the Happy Nostalgia team!https://jakeshappynostalgiashow.weebly.com/Listen to the audio version wherever you find your podcasts!https://linktr.ee/JakesHappyNostalgiaShow

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Sarah Spain knows a thing or two about winning. But sadly for ol' Napoleon Bonaparte, he managed to do anything but win this war. Ed and Sarah trudge into the tundra to follow Napoleon's epic screwup in his campaign to conquer Russia. Subscribe to the SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPodBuy the SNAFU book: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome back to Snafu with Robin Zander. In this episode, I'm joined by Jeff Jaworsky, who shares his journey from a global role at Google to running his own business while prioritizing time with his children. We talk about the pivotal life and career decisions that shaped this transition, focusing on the importance of setting boundaries—both personally and professionally. Jeff shares insights on leaving a structured corporate world for entrepreneurship and the lessons learned along the way. We also explore the evolving landscape of sales and entrepreneurship, highlighting how integrating human connection and coaching skills is more important than ever in a tech-driven world. The conversation touches on the role of AI and technology, emphasizing how they can support—but not replace—essential human relationships. Jeff offers practical advice for coaches and salespeople on leveraging their natural skills and hints at a potential future book exploring the intersection of leadership, coaching, and sales. If you're curious about what's next for thoughtful leadership, entrepreneurship, and balancing work with life, this episode is for you. And for more conversations like this, get your tickets for Snafu Conference 2026 on March 5th here, where we'll continue exploring human connection, business, and the evolving role of AI. Start (0:00) Early life and first real boundary Jeff grew up up in a structured, linear environment Decisions largely made for you Clear expectations, predictable paths Post–high school as the first inflection point College chosen because it's "what you're supposed to do" Dream: ESPN sports anchor (explicit role model: Stuart Scott) Reality check through research Job placement rate: ~3% First moment of asking: Is this the best use of my time? Is this fair to the people investing in me (parents)? Boundary lesson #1 Letting go of a dream doesn't mean failure Boundaries can be about honesty, not limitation Choosing logic over fantasy can unlock unexpected paths Dropping out of college → accidental entry into sales Working frontline sales at Best Buy while in school Selling computers, service plans, handling customers daily Decision to leave college opens capacity Manager notices and offers leadership opportunity Takes on home office department Largest sales category in the store Youngest supervisor in the company (globally) at 19 Early leadership challenges Managing people much older Navigating credibility, age bias, exclusion Learning influence without authority Boundary insight Temporary decisions can become formative Saying "yes" doesn't mean you're locked in forever Second boundary: success without sustainability Rapid growth at Best Buy Promotions Increasing responsibility Observing manager life up close 60-hour weeks No real breaks Lunch from vending machines Internal checkpoint Is this the life I want long-term? Distinguishing: Liking the work Disliking the cost Boundary lesson #2 You can love a craft and still reject the lifestyle around it Boundaries protect the future version of you Returning to school with intention Decision to go back to college This time with clarity Sales and marketing degree by design, not default Accelerated path Graduates in three years Clear goal: catch up, not start over Internship at J. Walter Thompson Entry into agency world Launch of long-term sales and marketing career Pattern recognition: how boundaries actually work Ongoing self-check at every stage Have I learned what I came here to learn? Am I still growing? Is this experience still stretching me? Boundaries as timing, not rejection Experiences "run their course" Leaving doesn't invalidate what came before Non-linear growth Sometimes stepping down is strategic Demotion → education Senior role → frontline role (later at Google) Downward moves that enable a bigger climb later Shared reflection with Robin Sales as a foundational skill Comparable to: Surfing (handling forces bigger than you) Early exposure to asking, pitching, rejection Best Buy reframed Customer service under pressure Handling frustrated, misinformed, emotional people Humility + persuasion + resilience Parallel experiences Robin selling a restaurant after learning everything she could Knowing the next step (expansion) and choosing not to take it Walking away without knowing what's next Core philosophy: learning vs. maintaining "If I'm not learning, I'm dying" Builder mindset, not maintainer Growth as a non-negotiable Career decisions guided by curiosity, not status Titles are temporary Skills compound Ladders vs. experience stacks Rejecting the myth of linear progression Valuing breadth, depth, and contrast The bridge metaphor Advice for people stuck between "not this" and "not sure what next" Don't leap blindly Build a bridge Bridge components Low-risk experiments Skill development Small tests in parallel with current work Benefits Reduces panic Increases clarity Turns uncertainty into movement Framing the modern career question Referencing the "jungle gym, not a ladder" idea Careers as lateral, diagonal, looping — not linear Growth through range, not just depth Connecting to Range and creative longevity Diverse experiences as a competitive advantage Late bloomers as evidence that exploration compounds Naming the real fear beneath the metaphor What if exploration turns into repeated failure? What if the next five moves don't work? Risk of confusing experimentation with instability Adding today's pressure cooker Economic uncertainty AI and automation reshaping work faster than previous generations experienced The tension between adaptability and survival The core dilemma How do you pursue a non-linear path without tumbling back to zero? How do you "build the bridge" instead of jumping blindly? How do you keep earning while evolving? The two-year rule Treating commitments like a contract with yourself Two years as a meaningful unit of time Long enough to: Learn deeply Be challenged Experience failure and recovery Short enough to avoid stagnation Boundaries around optional exits Emergency ripcord exists But default posture is commitment, not escape Psychological benefit Reduces panic during hard moments Prevents constant second-guessing Encourages depth over novelty chasing The 18-month check-in Using the final stretch strategically Asking: Am I still learning? Am I still challenged? Does this align with my principles? Shifting from execution to reflection Early exploration of "what's next" Identifying gaps: Skills to acquire Experiences to test Regaining control External forces aren't always controllable Internal planning always is Why most people get stuck Planning too late Waiting until: Layoffs Burnout Forced transitions Trying to design the future in crisis Limited creativity Fear-based decisions Contrast with proactive planning Calm thinking Optionality Leverage Extending the contract Recognizing unfinished business Loving the work Still growing Still contributing meaningfully One-year extensions as intentional choices Not inertia Not fear Conscious recommitment A long career, one organization at a time Example: nearly 13 years at Google Six different roles Multiple reinventions inside one company Pattern over prestige Frontline sales Sales leadership Enablement Roles as chapters, not identities Staying while growing Leaving only when growth plateaus Experience stacking over ladder climbing Rejecting linear advancement Titles matter less than skills Accumulating perspective Execution Leadership Systems Transferable insight What works with customers What works internally What scales Sales enablement as an example of bridge-building Transition motivated by impact Desire to help at scale Supporting many sellers, not just personal results A natural evolution, not a pivot Built on prior sales experience Expanded influence Bridge logic in action Skills reused Scope widened Risk managed Zooming out: sales, stigma, and parenting Introducing the next lens: children Three boys: 13, 10, 7 Confronting sales stereotypes Slimy Manipulative Self-serving Tension between reputation and reality Loving sales Building a career around it Teaching it without replicating the worst versions Redefining sales as a helping profession Sales as service Primary orientation: benefit to the other person Compensation as a byproduct, not the driver Ethical center Believe in what you're recommending Stand behind its value Sleep well regardless of outcome Losses reframed Most deals don't close Failure as feedback Integrity as the constant Selling to kids (and being sold by them) Acknowledging reality Everyone sells, constantly Titles don't matter Teaching ethos, not tactics How you persuade matters more than whether you win Kindness Thoughtfulness Awareness of the other side Everyday negotiations Bedtime extensions Appeals to age, fairness, peer behavior Sales wins without good reasoning Learning opportunity Success ≠ good process Boundaries still matter Why sales gets a bad reputation Root cause: selfishness Focus on "what I get" Language centered on personal gain Misaligned value exchange Overselling Underdelivering The alternative Lead with value for the other side Hold mutual benefit in the background Make the exchange explicit and fair Boundaries as protection for both sides Clear scope What's included What's not Saying no as a service Preventing resentment Preserving trust Entrepreneurial lens Boundaries become essential Scope creep erodes value Clarity sustains long-term relationships Value exchange, scope, and boundaries Every request starts with discernment, not enthusiasm What value am I actually providing? What problem am I solving? How much time, energy, and attention will this really take? The goal isn't just a "yes" Both sides need to feel good about: What's being given What's being received What's being expected What's realistically deliverable Sales as a two-sided coin Mutual benefit matters Overselling creates future resentment Promising "the moon and the stars" is how trust breaks later Boundaries as self-respect Clear limits protect delivery quality Good boundaries prevent repeating bad sales dynamics Saying less upfront often enables better outcomes long-term Transitioning into coaching and the SNAFU Conference Context for the work today Speaking at the inaugural SNAFU Conference Focused on reluctant salespeople and non-sales roles Why coaching became the next chapter Sales is everywhere, regardless of title Coaching emerged as a natural extension of sales leadership The origin story at Google Transition from sales leadership to enablement Core question: how do we help sellers have better conversations? Result: building Google's global sales coaching program Grounded in practice and feedback Designed to prepare for high-stakes conversations The hidden overlap between sales and coaching Coaching as an underutilized advantage Especially powerful for sales leaders Shared core skills Deep curiosity Active listening Presence in conversation Reflecting back what's heard, not what you assume The co-creation mindset Not leading someone to your solution Guiding toward their desired outcome Why this changes everything Coaching improves leadership effectiveness Coaching improves sales outcomes Coaching reshapes how decisions get made A personal inflection point: learning to listen Feedback that lingered "Jeff is often the first and last to speak in meetings" The realization Seniority amplified his voice Being directive wasn't the same as being effective The shift Stop being the first to speak Invite more voices Lead with curiosity, not certainty The result More evolved perspectives Better decisions Sometimes realizing he was simply wrong The parallel to sales Talking at customers limits discovery Pre-built pitch decks obscure real needs The "right widget" only emerges through listening What the work looks like today A synthesis of experiences Buyer Seller Sales leader Enablement leader Executive coach How that shows up in practice Executive coaching for sales and revenue leaders Supporting decision-making Developing more coach-like leadership styles Workshops and trainings Helping managers coach more effectively Building durable sales skills Advisory work Supporting sales and enablement organizations at scale The motivation behind the shift Returning to the core questions: Am I learning? Am I growing? Am I challenged? A pull toward broader impact A desire to test whether this work could scale beyond one company Why some practices thrive and others stall Observing the difference Similar credentials Similar training Radically different outcomes The uncomfortable truth The difference is sales Entrepreneurship without romance Businesses don't "arrive" on their own Clients don't magically appear Visibility, rejection, iteration are unavoidable Core requirements Clear brand Defined ICP Articulated value Credibility to support the claim Debunking "overnight success" Success is cumulative Built on years of unseen experience Agency life + Google made entrepreneurship possible Sales as a universal survival skill Especially now Crowded markets Economic uncertainty Increased competition Sales isn't manipulation It's how value moves through the world Avoiding the unpersuadable Find people who already want what you offer Make it easier for them to say yes For those who "don't want to sell" Either learn it Or intentionally outsource it But you can't pretend it doesn't exist The vision board and the decision to leap December 18, 2023 45th birthday Chosen as a forcing function Purpose of the date Accountability, not destiny A moment to decide: stay or go Milestones on the back Coaching certification Experience thresholds Personal readiness Listening to the inner signal The repeated message: "It's time" The bridge was already built Skills stacked Experience earned Risk understood Stepping forward without full certainty You never know what's on the other side You only learn once you cross and look around Decision-making and vision boards Avoid forcing yourself to meet arbitrary deadlines Even if a date is set for accountability (e.g., a 45th birthday milestone), the real question is: When am I ready to act? Sometimes waiting isn't necessary; acting sooner can make sense Boundaries tie directly into these decisions They help you align personal priorities with professional moves Recognizing what matters most guides the "when" and "how" of major transitions Boundaries in the leap from corporate to entrepreneurship Biggest boundary: family and presence with children Managing a global team meant constant connectivity and messages across time zones Transitioning to your own business allowed more control over work hours, clients, and priorities The pro/con framework reinforced the choice Written lists can clarify trade-offs For this example, the deciding factor was: "They get their dad back" Boundaries in entrepreneurship are intertwined with opportunity More freedom comes with more responsibility You can choose your hours, clients, and areas of focus—but still must deliver results Preparing children for a rapidly changing world Skill priorities extend beyond AI and automation Technology literacy is essential, but kids will likely adapt faster than adults Focus on human skills Building networks Establishing credibility Navigating relationships and complex decisions Sales-related skills apply Curiosity, empathy, observation, and problem-solving help them adapt to change These skills are timeless, even as roles and tools evolve Human skills in an AI-driven world AI is additive, not replacement Leverage AI to complement work, not fear it Understand what AI does well and where human judgment is irreplaceable Coaching and other human-centered skills remain critical Lived experience, storytelling, and nuanced judgment cannot be fully replaced by AI Technology enables scale but doesn't replace complex human insight The SNAFU Conference embodies this principle Brings humans together to share experiences and learn Demonstrates that face-to-face interaction, stories, and mutual learning remain valuable Advice for coaches learning to sell Coaches already possess critical sales skills Curiosity, active listening, presence, problem identification, co-creating solutions These skills, when applied to sales, still fall within a helping profession Key approach Use your coaching skills to generate business ethically Reframe sales as an extension of support, not self-interest For salespeople Learn coaching skills to improve customer conversations Coaching strengthens empathy, listening, and problem-solving abilities, all core to effective selling Book and resource recommendations Non-classical sales books Setting the Table by Danny Meyer → emphasizes culture and service as a form of sales Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara → creating value through care for people Coaching-focused books Self as Coach, Self as Leader by Pam McLean Resources from the Hudson Institute of Coaching Gap in sales literature Few resources fully integrate coaching with sales Potential upcoming book: The Power of Coaching and Sales  

Jon Lovett is a prominent podcaster and political commentator -- and, a survivor. (Get it?). Today, Ed brings Jon along to help commentate on the ill-fated journey of another group who was simply trying to survive: The Donner Party. Subscribe to the SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPodBuy the SNAFU book: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this Friday edition of Sid & Friends in the Morning, Sid covers multiple stories, starting with the discovery of Claudio Neves Valente, the suspect in the Brown University shooting that resulted in the deaths of two students and injured nine others. Valente, a former Brown student and MIT professor's killer, was found dead in a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire. Following this, the resignation of Catherine Al Monte DeCosta from Mayor-elect Mamdani's administration due to past statements was reported. Sid also contributes commentary criticizing Kamala Harris after she says America deserves better than President Trump, before he dives into a discussion regarding the President and the Kennedy Center being renamed in his honor. Anthony D'Esposito, Brian Kilmeade, Joe Tacopina, K.T. McFarland & Miranda Devine join Sid on this Friday installment of Sid & Friends in the Morning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A possibly historic SNAFU resulted in the 800th episode of GTT turning out to be episode 801! But if that weren't shocking enough, in an important and serious twist we imagine the world leaders gathering in Tom's Fiancee Sandy's 9 bedroom bed and breakfast in the Catskill Mountains and working out their differences over one historic weekend. But would Putin be happy with the "Gazebo Room?" or would he still complain? More questions than answers, but still lots of shocking answers.

Samantha Bee is as lively as ever. And on this special episode of SNAFU, Sam helped take Ed's book tour to the big apple, LIVE at the 92NY in New York City. They reminisce on their early days at The Daily Show together, and naturally touch on some of the most bonkers chapters in Ed's book, SNAFU: The Definitive Guide to History's Greatest Screwups. Don't miss out this holiday season, and buy the New York Times Bestseller wherever you get your books, or go to: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Did you ever see that Big Bang Theory episode where the guys are talking and Back to the Future and have to essentially invent new grammatical tenses to explain the worlds? Yeah. . . That.

Welcome back to Snafu with Robin Zander. In this episode, I'm joined by Melissa Painter, founder of Breakthru – a platform bringing movement, mindfulness, and behavior change into workplaces around the world. We talk about how Melissa uses movement as a tool to improve focus, resilience, and well-being, and how her background in dance and creative movement informs her approach to human performance. We explore the science and art of helping people move more, think better, and feel more connected to their work and each other. Melissa shares how she designs short, immersive experiences for employees, what it takes to change workplace culture, and why small, intentional shifts in movement can unlock big changes in thinking and performance. We also dive into the intersection of creativity, neuroscience, and technology, and how thoughtful, human-centered design can make work feel more alive and meaningful. If you're curious about how movement, mindfulness, and behavior change can transform your work and life, this episode is for you. And for more conversations like this, stay tuned for Responsive Conference 2026, where we'll be continuing the dialogue on human connection, creativity, and thriving in the modern workplace. I'm so glad and honored to have Melissa joining us in this talk. If you're interested in her work, take a look at Breakthru – you can try it and share it with your team here: Take your first Breakthru! https://breakthru.me/   

Kal Penn has worked everywhere from Hollywood to the White House. In this joint episode of SNAFU and Kal's new podcast, HERE WE GO AGAIN, Ed tells Kal the story of a small town that decided to secede from America, only to realize their desire to buy beer and party would win out in the end Then, they call up U.S. historian Richard Kreitner to learn about secession movements in America today, like Calexit, Texit, and the Greater Idaho Movement. You can check out HERE WE GO AGAIN here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

U.S. Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania remains in a Pittsburgh hospital after a heart episode caused him to fall and injure his head on Thursday. After a 135-day budget stalemate, Pennsylvania finally has a budget. It's an agreement born of compromise, including the state withdrawing from a multi-state compact whose goal was to limit the emission of fossil fuels. Pennsylvania’s new state budget is bringing relief to nonprofits and social-service agencies after a months-long impasse put many on the brink. For more than four months, organizations providing homelessness, mental health, and addiction services operated without state payments. That led to some cutting programs or relying on emergency credit to make payroll. An Election Day poll book error left out third-party voters in Chester County and forced thousands to cast provisional ballots. The Chester County Board of Elections has established a timeline on its investigation. Health officials in Philadelphia are warning recent air travelers about a possible measles exposure earlier this week. The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission is teaming up with the state Attorney General to go after motorists who fail to pay tolls on the Turnpike. A new report shows the US Open golf championship held near Pittsburgh in June generated nearly $290 million for Pennsylvania's economy. It's the end of an era, as the U.S. Mint has officially ended production of the penny. The last of the one cent coins were struck Wednesday at the US Mint in Philadelphia, where the country’s smallest denomination coins have been produced since 1793, a year after Congress passed the Coinage Act. Support WITF: https://www.witf.org/support/give-now/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Ochelli Effect 11-13-2025 SNAFU NEWSUnplug and Play?Another attempt to reveal truth to people that really do not want itBefore presenting things on here I go beyond headlines and spin. What is that you might ask? Well, I examine and research incidents and events as told by a diverse group of sites online mostly, and after gathering what I think may be the alleged facts portrayed by Left, Right, and some niche variations on the event or incident I seek independent verification and corroboration about the representations, allegations and reporting that is often condensed and bias to such a degree that the obvious agenda to insight reactions from targeted potential audiences and create misleading narratives or distortion of reality and fabrication of narratives is the only obvious business model that I find most often undeniable. The above mentioned process along with and frankly generated by , making phone calls to involved agencies, reading legislation or other documents often given citations in the due course of reporting by others, and fact checking with neutral parties and reliable reference resources along with a handful of trade secrets is the minimum of what I do when analyzing and reporting on The Ochelli Effect.  A wide range of results are gathered over anywhere from 8 to 12 hours of work investigating the claims and varsity of multiple narratives that often boil down to 3 to 6 sections on a one hour long podcast that I present with 10% of the resource links offered in show notes that were actually utilized to simply give you the listener step 1 of maybe 20 steps taken in a personal investigation uniquely cultivated by the host speaker that actually cares about representing something meaningful to you in your search for real information and Truth with some mockery of issues that seem worthy of it and a joke or two as that has been requested by listeners recently. Am I biased? Yes. My bias is based on the desire to eliminate the pre-packaged talking points of those who only seek to influence your outrage and fear for profit from your information and news feeds as best I am able to. This is not a popular thing to do and if you are a listener to the Ochelli Effect for any length of time the only thing you are actually guaranteed is discomfort. Because we are all subject to the programing attempts to manipulate our reactions and full spectrum views of the world around us through carefully engineered means on a constant timeline. Though I am subject to the same algorithm driven targeted attempts to twist my reality I constantly rive to do the one thing it seems hardly any other independent media creator has any interest in doing. That one thing is to think for myself and examine the truest real events and newsworthy incidents honestly and clearly. This is what my wish is for any listener I have, regarding history, current events, and the illusions presented by millions of other podcasts and content creators should be heard and viewed by TOE listeners with a clarity not found elsewhere that is REAL. Think for yourselves , TRULY. See facts and reality, NOT SPIN. All the above is lightly sprinkled with some opinions but not driven by them.If I have time I might release a partial replay of the 11-7-25 call-in show where a time-wasting energy sucking argument between myself and 1 caller started as a friendly chat and devolved into unlistenable noise that illustrates perfectly that I am offering a product that may simply no longer have a place. As the Friday Night Show continues to destroy my efforts, It makes me believe that I may not have the time to wait out the current political and social trends that require siding with pre-approved propaganda without fail or suffer the consequences.I haven't Changed much, but I have learned many things so my base of knowledge has evolved.If you don't want that, Sorry, I don't know how to be any other way.Chuck---POINTS OF INTEREST : CAUSE AND EFFECT : IF YOU MISSED ITJFK's grandson, Jack Schlossberg, announces 2026 run for Nadler's seat in Congresshttps://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jfks-grandson-jack-schlossberg-announces-2026-run-nadlers/story?id=127440606Food-snatching seagulls are more likely to leave you alone if you shout at them, researchers sayhttps://apnews.com/article/shouting-scares-seagulls-eating-food-study-3893363e30db5f99462526a168fe0555?Israel's longest war is leaving a trail of traumatized soldiers, with suicides also on the risehttps://apnews.com/article/israel-soldiers-mental-health-suicide-gaza-war-d4f3b7a26c9ce0bce861c090afb101ea?Trump Canceled 94 Million Pounds of Food Aid. Here's What Never Arrived.https://projects.propublica.org/trump-food-cuts/US Mint presses final pennies as production ends after more than 230 yearshttps://apnews.com/article/us-mint-treasury-department-penny-end-production-86139df5644ef0885a9baf98e9677380?Kryptos' final code remains unsolved. The CIA sculpture's creator is auctioning the solutionhttps://apnews.com/article/kryptos-jim-sanborn-auction-cia-650c1253d6a96591f29b88a20299c430?Most Women Are On Crazy Pills, And It's Bad For Everyonehttps://thefederalist.com/2025/11/13/most-women-are-on-crazy-pills-and-its-bad-for-everyone/T3 things slipped into the funding bill to end the federal government shutdownFetterman hospitalized after fall near his Pennsylvania homehttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/fetterman-hospitalized-over-fall-near-his-pennsylvania-home/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us3 things slipped into the funding bill to end the federal government shutdownhttps://youtu.be/E6KXnCssXhY?si=YIv9LODn8K9QvKgqOchelli Says: Are all your annoying ads for AI products? Mine are.---MANY WAYS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO THE BRANDAre You Gaslighting Yourself? Here's How to Tellhttps://time.com/7331769/gaslighting-myself-mental-health/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-usDrug Dealer Granted Clemency by Trump Sent Back to Prison After Accusations of Molesting His Kids' Nanny, Assaulting Toddlerhttps://people.com/drug-dealer-trump-clemency-back-to-prison-violating-supervised-release-jonathan-braun-11847500 With a Trump pardon in hand, Stewart Rhodes says he's ‘rebuilding' the Oath Keepershttps://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-pardon-hand-stewart-rhodes-says-s-rebuilding-oath-keepers-rcna243280Melania Trump's Mysterious Amazon Documentary: What We Knowhttps://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/melania-trump-documentary-amazon.html Trump asks Israeli president to 'fully pardon' Netanyahu in corruption trialhttps://news.sky.com/story/trump-asks-israeli-president-to-fully-pardon-netanyahu-in-corruption-trial-13469073Ochelli Says: Guess what, the SNAP Benefits and stalling food for Americans is really about changes in the rules.That in mind, will any of you notice that this was northing more than reorganization and prep for the next phase of the one party plan?Will you remember this for the well timed 2026 shutdown?Is this thing on???---EPSTEIN EPSTEIN IS ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS GUY ANYMORE?Speaker Johnson: "We believe the long national nightmare will be over tonight.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKRVlPZvzVcTrump ‘spent hours' with victim at Epstein's house, email allegeshttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/12/trump-spent-hours-with-victim-at-epsteins-house-email-alleges Jeffrey Epstein, in newly released email, says Trump ‘knew about the girls'https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/12/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-emails-00647447 Read Jeffrey Epstein's newly released emails about Trumphttps://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-jeffrey-epsteins-newly-released-emails-about-trump https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/Bipartisan duo expects to secure signatures Wednesday to force a vote to release Epstein fileshttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bipartisan-duo-expects-signatures-wednesday-force-vote-release-epstein-rcna231405What The Latest Epstein Files Say About Bill Clintonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JkHwkF1W5AOchelli Says: This is the distraction. The Shutdown had nothing to do with this at all. It merely kept you from questioning the Smash and Grab from the Unified one party skimmers. Trump BRANDED.If Jeffrey Epstein were still alive, Trump would have already PARDONED him!---Help for Ochelli and The NetworkMrs.OLUNA ROSA CANDLEShttp://www.paypal.me/Kimberlysonn1Ochelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelli---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCENovember 21-23 225The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201Tickets @ https://assassinationconference.com/10 % OFF code = Ochelli10@ CheckoutBE THE EFFECTListen/Chat on the Sitehttps://ochelli.com/listen-live/TuneInhttp://tun.in/sfxkxAPPLEhttps://music.apple.com/us/station/ochelli-com/ra.1461174708Ochelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelliAnything is a blessing if you have the meansWithout YOUR support we go silent.---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCEDISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/Coming SOON Room Discount Details The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201. easy access to Dealey Plaza

Mike Schur knows how to run a show or two - but could he handle Tammany Hall?? Ed takes Mike on a journey to visit with old Boss Tweed, one of the most divisive - and dare we say cartoonish? - political figures of 19th century New York City. Subscribe to the SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPodBuy the SNAFU book: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Actor Ed Helms loves a deep dive into a snafu from the past. “I love the hubris, our amazing capacity for ineptitude and terrible decision-making.” He's turned that obsession into the hit podcast SNAFU, inviting guests to break down some of history's most entertaining bloopers. “The snafu is often not just the initial problem, but it's [a] sort of scurrying aftermath of people trying to cover their tracks.” Each prior season focused on one historical moment, but season four has a new one every episode—and “dramatically” more episodes. “It is proving to be a ton of work, but it's super fun.” Hit podcast host is a new turn for Helms, best known for his work in TV and film. “Office fans are just so, so sweet and delightful. Hangover fans can be a little more aggro, but that's good.” But it's that intimate relationship he creates with podcast fans that feels more earned: “Those feel like my deep peeps.” Subscribe to my newsletter: https://link.newsweek.com/join/for-the-culture Follow me: https://linktr.ee/halanscott Subscribe to Newsweek's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/newsweek See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A big show today with bunch of closing thoughts after World Finals, plus weekend results, and more context on the Kaiden Manders DQ and what will and won't happen next.

A big show today with bunch of closing thoughts after World Finals, plus weekend results, and more context on the Kaiden Manders DQ and what will and won't happen next.

Welcome back to Snafu with Robin Zander. In this episode, I'm joined by Kevan Lee and Shannon Deep, co-founders of Bonfire – a creative studio reimagining what it means to build brands, tell stories, and live meaningful lives. We talk about how Bonfire began as a "Trojan horse" – a branding agency on the surface, but really a vehicle for deeper questions: What does fulfilling work look like? How do we find meaning beyond our careers? And how can business become a space for honesty, connection, and growth? Kevan and Shannon share how their partnership formed, what it takes to build trust as co-founders, and how vulnerability and self-awareness fuel their collaboration. We explore their path from tech and theater to building Bonfire, hosting creative retreats, and helping founders tell more authentic stories. We also dive into how AI is changing storytelling, the myth of "broetry" on LinkedIn, and why transparency is the future of marketing. If you're curious about what's next for creativity, leadership, and meaningful work, this episode is for you. And for more conversations like this, stay tuned for Responsive Conference 2026, where we'll be continuing the dialogue on human connection, business, and the evolving role of AI. Start (0:00) How Bonfire Started (14:25) Robin notes how transparent and intentional they've been building their business and community Says Bonfire feels like a 21st-century agency – creative, human, and not traditional Invites them to describe what they're building and their vision for it Kevan's response: Admits he feels imposter syndrome around being called an "entrepreneur" Laughs that it's technically true but still feels strange Describes Bonfire as partly a traditional branding agency They work with early-stage startups Help with brand strategy, positioning, messaging, and differentiation. But says the heart of their work is much deeper "We create spaces for people to explore what a fulfilling life looks like – one that includes work, but isn't defined by it." Their own careers inspired this – jobs that paid well but felt empty, or jobs that felt good but didn't pay the bills Bonfire became their way to build something more meaningful A space to have these conversations themselves And to invite others into it This includes community, retreats, and nontraditional formats Jokes that the agency side is a Trojan horse – a vehicle to fund the work they truly care about Shannon adds: They're agnostic about what Bonfire "does" Could be a branding agency, publishing house, even an ice cream shop "Money is just gas in the engine." The larger goal is creating spaces for people to explore their relationship to work Especially for those in transition, searching for meaning, or redefining success Robin reflects on their unusual path Notes most marketers who start agencies chase awards and fame But Shannon and Kevan built Bonfire around what they wished existed Recalls their past experiences Kevan's path from running a publication (later sold to Vox) to Buffer and then Oyster Shannon's shared time with him at Oyster Mentions their recent milestone – Bonfire's first live retreat in France 13 participants, including them Held in a rented castle For a two-year-old business, he calls it ambitious and impressive Asks: "How did it go? What did people get out of it?" Shannon on the retreat Laughs that they're still processing what it was They had a vibe in mind – but not a fixed structure One participant described it as "a wellness retreat for marketers" Not wrong – but also not quite right Attendees came from tech and non-tech backgrounds The focus: exploring people's most meaningful relationship to work Who you are when you're not at your desk How to bring that awareness back to real life — beyond castles and catered meals People came at it from different angles Some felt misaligned with their work Others were looking for something new Everyone was at a crossroads in their career Kevan on the space they built The retreat encouraged radical honesty People shared things like: "I have this job because I crave approval." "I care about money as a status symbol." "I hate what I do, but I don't know what else I'd be good at." They didn't force vulnerability, but wanted to make it safe if people chose it They thought deeply about values – what needed to be true for that kind of trust Personally, Kevan says the experience shifted his identity From "marketer" to something else – maybe "producer," maybe "creator" The retreat made him realize how many paths are possible "Now I just want to do more of this." Robin notes there are "so many threads to pull on" Brings up family business and partnerships Shares his own experience growing up in his dad's small business Talks about lessons from Robin's Cafe and the challenges of partnerships Says he's fascinated by co-founder dynamics – both powerful and tricky Asks how Shannon and Kevan's working relationship works What it was like at Oyster Why they decided to start Bonfire together And how it's evolved after the retreat Kevan on their beginnings He hired Shannon at Oyster – she was Editorial Director, he was SVP of Marketing Worked together for about a year and a half Knew early on that something clicked Shared values Similar worldview Trusted each other When Oyster ended, partnering up felt natural – "Let's figure out what's next, together." Robin observes their groundedness Says they both seem stable and mature, which likely helps the partnership Jokes about his own chaos running Robin's Café – late nights, leftover wine, cold quinoa Asks Shannon directly: "Do you still follow Kevan's lead?" Shannon's laughs and agrees they're both very regulated people But adds that it comes from learned coping mechanisms Says they've both developed pro-social ways to handle stress People-pleasing Overachievement Perfectionism Intellectualizing feelings instead of expressing them "Those are coping mechanisms too," she notes, "but at least they keep us calm when we talk." Building Trust and Partnership (14:54–23:15) Shannon says both she and Kevan have done deep personal work. Therapy, reflection, and self-inquiry are part of their toolkit. That helps them handle a relationship that's both intimate and challenging. They know their own baggage. They try not to take the other person's reactions personally. It doesn't always work—but they trust they'll work through conflict. When they started Bonfire: They agreed the business world is unpredictable. So they made a pinky swear: Friends first, business second. The friendship is the real priority. When conflict comes up, they ask: "Is this really life or death—or are we just forgetting what matters?" Shannon goes back to the question and clarifies  Says they lead in different ways. Each has their "zone of genius." They depend on each other's strengths. It's not leader and follower – it's mutual reliance. Shannon explains: Kevan's great at momentum: He moves things forward and ships projects fast. Shannon tends to be more perfectionist: Wants things to be fully formed before releasing. Kevan adds they talk often about "rally and rest." Kevan rallies, he thrives on pressure and urgency. Shannon rests, she values slowing down and reflection. Together, that creates a healthy rhythm.  Robin notes lingering habits Wonders if any "hangovers" from their Oyster days remain. Kevan reflects  At first, he hesitated to show weakness. Coming from a manager role, vulnerability felt risky. Shannon quickly saw through it. He realized openness was essential, not optional. Says their friendship and business both rely on honesty. Robin agrees and says he wouldn't discourage co-founders—it's just a big decision. Like choosing a spouse, it shapes your life for years. Notes he's never met with one of them without the other. "That says something," he adds. Their partnership clearly works—even if it takes twice the time. Rethinking Marketing (23:19) Kevan's light moment: Asks if Robin's comment about their teamwork was feedback for them. Robin's observation  Notes how in sync Shannon and Kevan are. Emails one, gets a reply CC'd with the other. Says the tempo of Bonfire feels like their collaboration itself. Wonders what that rhythm feels like internally. Kevan's response  Says it's partly intentional, partly habit. They genuinely enjoy working together. Adds they don't chase traditional agency milestones. No interest in Ad Age lists or Cannes awards. Their goal: have fun and make meaningful work. Robin pivots to the state of marketing (24:04) Mentions the shift from Madison Avenue's glory days to today's tech-driven world. Refers to Mad Men and the "growth at all costs" startup era. Notes how AI and tech are changing how people see their role in work and life. Kevan's background  Came from startups, not agencies. Learned through doing, not an MBA. Immersed in books like Hypergrowth and Traction. Took Reforge courses—knows the mechanics of scaling. Before that, worked as a journalist. Gained curiosity and calm under pressure, but also urgency. Admits startup life taught him both good and bad habits. Robin notes  Neither lives the Madison Avenue life. Kevan's in Boise. Shannon's in France. Shannon's background Started in theater – behind the scenes as a dramaturg and producer. Learned how to shape emotion and tell stories. Transitioned into brand strategy in New York. Worked at a top agency, Siegel+Gale. Helped global B2B and B2C clients define mission, values, and design. Competed with big names like Interbrand and Pentagram. Later moved in-house at tech startups. Saw how B2B marketing often tries to "act cool" like B2C. Learned to translate creative ideas into language that convinces CFOs. Says her role often meant selling authentic storytelling to risk-averse execs. Admits she joined marketing out of necessity. "I was 27, broke in New York, and needed a parking spot for my storytelling skills." Robin connects the dots  Notes how Silicon Valley's "growth" culture mirrors old ad-world burnout. Growth at all costs. Not much room for creative autonomy. Adds most big agencies are now owned by holding companies. The original Madison Avenue independence is nearly gone. Robin's reflection  Mentions how AI-generated content is changing video and storytelling. Grateful his clients still value human connection. Asks how Bonfire helps brands tell authentic stories now that the old model is fading. Kevan's take  Says people now care less about "moments" and more about audiences. It's not about one viral hit—it's about building consistency. Brands need to stand for something, and keep showing up. People want that outcome, even if they don't want the hard work behind it. Shannon adds Notes rising skepticism among audiences. Most content people see isn't from who they follow, it's ads and algorithms. Consumers are subconsciously filtering out the noise. Says that's why human storytelling matters more than ever. People crave knowing a real person is behind the message. AI can mimic tone but not authenticity. Adds it's hard to convince some clients of that. Authentic work isn't fast or easily measured. It requires belief in the process and a value system to match. That's tough when your client's investors only want quick returns. Robin agrees  "Look at people's incentives and I'll tell you who they are." Shannon continues Wonders where their responsibility ends. Should they convince people of their values? Or just do the work and let the right clients come? Kevan says they've found a sweet spot with current clients. Mostly bootstrapped founders. Work with them long-term instead of one-off projects. Says that's the recipe that fits Bonfire's values and actually works. The Quarter Analogy (35:36) Robin quotes BJ Fogg: "Don't try to persuade people of your worldview. Look for people who already want what you can teach, and just show them how." He compares arguing with people who don't align to "an acrobat arguing with gravity – gravity will win 100% of the time." The key: harness momentum instead of fighting resistance. Even a small, aligned audience is better than chasing everyone. Kevan shares Bonfire's failed experiment with outbound sales: They tried reaching out to recently funded AI companies. "It got us nowhere," he admits. That experience reminded him how much old startup habits – growth at all costs, scale fast – still shape thinking. "I thought success meant getting as big as possible, as fast as possible. That meant doing outbound, even if it felt inauthentic." But that mindset just added pressure. Realizing there were other ways to grow – slower, more intentional – was a relief. Now they've stopped outbound entirely. Focused instead on aligned clients who find them naturally. Robin connects it to a MrBeast quote. "If I'm not ashamed of the video I put out last week, I'm not growing fast enough." He says he doesn't love the "shame" part but relates to the evolution mindset – Looking back at work from six months ago and thinking, I'd do that differently now. Growth as a visible, measurable journey. Robin shifts to storytelling frameworks: Mentions Kevan and Shannon's analogies about storytelling and asks about "the quarter analogy." Kevan explains the "quarter" story: A professor holds up two quarters: "Sell me the one on the right." No one can – until someone says, "I'll dip it in Marilyn Monroe's purse." That coin now has emotional and cultural value. Marketing can be the same – alchemy that turns something ordinary into something meaningful. Robin builds on that: You can tell stories about a coin's history – "Lincoln touched it," etc. But Kevan's version is different: adding new meaning in the present. "How do you imbue something with value now that makes it matter later?" Shannon's take: It's about values and belonging. "Every story implicitly says: believe this." That belief also says: we don't believe that – defining who's in your tribe. Humans crave that – community, validation, connection. That belonging is intangible but real. "Try selling that to a CFO who just wants ROI. Impossible — but it's real." Kevan adds: Values are one piece – authenticity is another. Some brands already have a genuine story; others want to create one. "We get asked to dip AI companies into Marilyn Monroe's purse," he jokes. The real work is uncovering what's true or helping brands rediscover it. The challenge: telling that story consistently and believably. Robin mentions Shannon's storytelling framework of three parts – Purpose → Story frameworks → Touch points. Shannon breaks it down: Clients usually come in with half-baked "mission" or "vision" statements. She uses Ogilvy's "Big Ideal" model: Combine a cultural tension (what's happening in the world) with your brand's best self. Then fill in the blank: "We believe the world would be a better place if…" That single sentence surfaces a company's "why us" and "why now." It's dramaturgy, really — same question as in theater: "Why this play now?" "Why us?" Bonfire's own version (in progress): "We believe the world would be a better place if people and brands had more room to explore their creativity." Kevan adds: it's evolving, like them. Robin relates it back to his own story: After selling Robin's Café, he started Zander Media to tell human stories. He wanted to document real connections — "the barista-customer relationships, the neighborhood changing." That became his north star: storytelling as a tool for change and human connection. "I don't care about video," he says. "I care about storytelling, helping people become more of who they want to be." Kevan closes the loop: A good purpose statement is expansive. It can hold video, podcasts, even a publishing house. "Maybe tomorrow it's something else. That's the beauty — it allows room to grow." Against the Broetry (49:01) Kevan reflects on transparency and values at Bonfire He and Robin came from Buffer, a company known for radical transparency — posting salaries, growth numbers, everything. Says that while Bonfire isn't as extreme about it, the spirit is the same. "It just comes naturally to invite people in." Their openness isn't a tactic – it's aligned with their values and mission. They want to create space for people to explore – new ideas, new ways of working, more fulfilling lives. Sharing their journey publicly felt like the obvious, authentic thing to do. "It wasn't even a conversation – just who we are." Shannon jumps in with a critique of business culture online Says there's so much terrible advice about "how to build a business." Compliments Robin for cutting through the noise – being honest through Snafu and his newsletter. "You're trying to be real about what selling feels like and what it says about you." Calls out the "rise and grind" nonsense dominating LinkedIn: "Wake up at 4 a.m., protein shake at 4:10, three-hour workout…" Robin laughs – "I'll take the three-hour workout, but I'll pass on the protein shake." Shannon and Kevan call it "broetry" The overblown, performative business storytelling on social media. "I went on my honeymoon and here's what I learned about B2B sales." Their goal with building in public is the opposite: To admit mistakes. To share pivots and moments of doubt. To remind people that everyone is figuring it out. "But the system rewards the opposite – gatekeeping, pretending, keeping up the facade." Shannon says she has "no patience for it." She traces that belief back to a story from college Producer Paula Wagner once told her class: "Here's the secret: nobody knows anything." That line stuck with her. Gave her permission to question authority. To show up confidently even when others pretend to know more. After years of watching powerful men "fail upward," she realized: "The emperor has no clothes." So she might as well take up space too. Transparency, for her, is a form of connection and courage – "When people raise their eyes from their desks and actually meet each other, that's power." Robin thanks Shannon for the kind words about Snafu. Says their work naturally attracts people who want that kind of realness. Then pivots to a closing question: "If you had one piece of advice for founders – about storytelling or business building – what would it be?" Kevan's advice: "Look beyond what's around you." Inspiration doesn't have to come from your industry. Learn from other fields, other stories, other worlds. It builds curiosity, empathy, and creativity. Robin sums it up: "Get out of your silos." Shannon's advice: "Make the thing you actually want to see." Too many founders copy what's trendy or "smart." Ask instead: What would I genuinely love to consume? Remember your audience is human, like you. And remember, building a business is a privilege. You get to create a small world that reflects your values. You get to hire people, pay them, shape a culture. "That's so cool, and it should make you feel powerful." With that power comes responsibility. "Everyone says it's about making the most money. But what if the goal was to make the coolest world possible, for as many people as possible?" Where to find Kevan and Shannon (57:16) Points listeners to aroundthebonfire.com/experiences. That's where they host their retreats. Next one is April 2026. "We'd love to see you there."   Companies/Organizations Bonfire Buffer Oyster Vox Zander Media Siegel+Gale Interbrand Pentagram Reforge Robin's Café Books / Frameworks / Theories Traction BJ Fogg's behavioral model Ogilvy's "Big Ideal" Purpose → Story Frameworks → Touch Point People Paula Wagner BJ Fogg MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) David Ogilvy Newsletters Snafu Kevan's previous publication  

Ochelli Effect 11-5-2025 SNAFU NEWSThis week we released some old shows and if that gets a few more downloads than new shows, we might keep doing so until Chuck Returns from Texas around the 25th. We had to do at least one SNAFU NEWS before Friday when we plan to have LIVE events, -8pm , The Regular Call-in show 8-10pm, Ae of Transitions 10-11pm & Uncle The Podcast 11pm-Midnight. LL Times Eastern)SELECTION NIGHT 2025 + SHUTDOWN RUNDOWN = AMERICA LAST ?Bomb threats in New Jersey and Trump warnings for California mark Election Dayhttps://apnews.com/article/election-2025-voting-threats-monitors-ballots-225eba3f30c8697924fc166ed9996736?Democrats sweep key races in 2025 elections in early referendum on Trumphttps://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/election-day-2025-voting-results/ Americans will still get partial SNAP benefits despite Trump post, White House saysThe clarification comes after the president threatened on Truth Social to withhold federal food aid funding until Democrats agree to reopen the government. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/04/trump-snap-funding-shutdown-food-aid-00635141Trump administration warns shutdown could force US airspace closureshttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/04/government-shutdown-airspace-flight-delays---SNAFU EFFECTTwo men accused of plotting terror attacks at LGBTQ+ bars in the Detroit areahttps://apnews.com/article/michigan-arrests-terror-plot-f47736ddf21df6614f75fb932d6aeac4?China denies nuclear testing, calls on US to maintain moratoriumUS president claims China, Russia have carried out secret nuclear weapon tests as he seeks to justify return to testing.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/3/china-denies-nuclear-testing-calls-on-us-to-maintain-moratoriumCBS News heavily edits Trump 60 Minutes interview, cutting boast network ‘paid me a lotta money'Trump said Paramount's sale to David and Larry Ellison was ‘greatest thing that's happened in a long time' for free presshttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/03/trump-cbs-60-minutes-interview-editedAUDIO word from Mike SwansonMICHAEL SWANSONBE IN THE KNOW: Sign-up for The email listhttps://wallstreetwindow.comFACEBOOK:https://www.facebook.com/tradermike BY MICHAEL SWANSON:The War State: The Cold War Origins Of The Military-Industrial Complex And The Power Elite, 1945-1963https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EWLGXHW/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0Scenario Hypothetical = You discover your neighbor is either Fuentes or Carlson. A: How fast do you arrange to move your family a safe distance away? B: How long before Israel needs a preemptive strike because Tucker and Nick are less than 2 years from possessing Nukes? C: Do you finally commit to siding with the Warts and all element in modern Trumpism formerly known as The Republican Party, or side against it with something that makes sense which also automatically means no Woke, and Post-Woke American Democrats?Tucker Carlson's interview with far-right antisemite Nick Fuentes divides conservativeshttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/31/conservative-reaction-tucker-carlson-nick-fuentes-interviewTucker Carlson under fire for Nick Fuentes interviewhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/9_Z87k2rN1wCheck The whole interview and let Chuck know what clip he missed that is chocking PLEASE. Also he will come up with a prize for somebody who can begin to make a convincing case, This isn't simply a well planned PR uplift for both of them to raise money for The Groyper Army and solidify Tucker as the Alt Media 3.1 hero they've been selling him as since he left Alphabet Cereal land corporate media and occupy the space Charlie Kirks successors have already failed to keep a hold on?Listen for Yourself if you like...Tucker Carlson Interviews Nick Fuenteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBB0D4tf1YCarlson is a Content generator who has been inserted into the LEFT/RIGHT paradigm in every angle possible. He has been platformed and highly paid to infect nearly every ideological corner in American political discourse. Currently on his own branded platform today he has a long history of being employed by, everyone.Groyper Army = group of white Christian nationalists are followers, fans, or associates of American far-right figure and content creator  Nick Fuentes. The name is partially inspired by a variant of Pepe the Frog but there is a great deal of nuance absent in this definition.ALSO ALSOSeymour HershHOW DICK CHENEY MADE ME A BETTER REPORTERhttps://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-dick-cheney-made-me-a-better?utm_source=postKentucky plane crash: death toll rises to 12 as officials investigate how engine detachedhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/05/ups-plane-crash-louisville-investigationDid Chuck mention the post-assassination Jackie Kenney Halloween costume controversy? ---FROM THE APAP Afternoon Wire HEADLINESFrom Tuesday 11-4-2025 Sir David Beckham: Soccer star is knighted by King Charles III for services to sport and charityMedieval tower collapse: Worker dies after 11 hours trapped within partially collapsed medieval tower in RomeObit: Mona Ziade, who helped shape the AP's Middle East coverage in the 1980s and ‘90s, dies at age 65Harvard explosion: 2 Massachusetts men have been arrested in the weekend explosion at Harvard Medical School, FBI saysGrand slam: Denny's to be acquired and taken private in a deal valued at $620 millionClimate: Pets contribute to greenhouse gases like us. Here's how to reduce their carbon pawprintWATCH: Christmas harvest begins in Germany, where some say decorating trees began---FROM THE RUNDOWNBomb threats in New Jersey and Trump warnings for California mark Election Dayhttps://apnews.com/article/election-2025-voting-threats-monitors-ballots-225eba3f30c8697924fc166ed9996736?It's never been easier to be a conspiracy theoristhttps://www.technologyreview.com/2025/10/30/1126457/its-never-been-easier-to-be-a-conspiracy-theorist/Venezuela Strikes Fall Short of Triggering Legal Limits, White House Sayshttps://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/11/03/venezuela-strikes-fall-short-of-triggering-legal-limits-white-house-says.html Idiot Media Ignore 40 Years Of History To Pretend Trump Attacks On Cartels Are Unprecedentedhttps://thefederalist.com/2025/11/04/idiot-media-ignore-40-years-of-history-to-pretend-trump-attacks-on-cartels-are-unprecedented/Dick Cheney Dies at 84—Unfortunately Not at The Haguehttps://newrepublic.com/post/202647/dick-cheney-dies-iraq-war-torture-no-regretsCheney, architect of endless war, helped kill our faith in leadershttps://responsiblestatecraft.org/dick-cheney-dies/ Israel rocked by scandal as top military lawyer resigns, goes missing, is found and thrown into jailhttps://apnews.com/article/israel-military-scandal-prisoners-abuse-7becb2de4079b76b656910cc3c640d0d Israeli soldiers defend torturing Palestinian prisoner, saying they deserve thankshttps://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20251104-israeli-soldiers-defend-torturing-palestinian-prisoner-saying-they-deserve-thanks/Here's the Only 40 Seconds of Fox News Covering Trump Not Knowing Who He Pardonedhttps://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/heres-the-only-40-seconds-of-fox-news-covering-trump-not-knowing-who-he-pardoned/Support Newsvandal / PayPalhttps://newsvandal.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=15a14ef5fbdec40eb0032a960&id=a1b4a4f870&e=0f82208480---BE THE EFFECTSUPPORT Ochelli and The NetworkMrs.OLUNA ROSA CANDLEShttp://www.paypal.me/Kimberlysonn1---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCENOVEMBER 21-23 2025DISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201. situated with easy access to Dealey PlazaChuck will be the Emcee & A LIVE Myths Panel is PlannedBE THE EFFECTListen/Chat on the Sitehttps://ochelli.com/listen-live/TuneInhttp://tun.in/sfxkxAPPLEhttps://music.apple.com/us/station/ochelli-com/ra.1461174708Ochelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelliAnything is a blessing if you have the meansWithout YOUR support we go silent.---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCEDISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/Coming SOON Room Discount Details The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201. easy access to Dealey Plaza

Desi Lydic thrives in the chaos of New York City. Ed invites her back to one of the city's darkest times, quite literally. It's the 1977 NYC Blackout, a SNAFU showcasing the best and worst of humanity in the Big Apple. Subscribe to the SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPodBuy the SNAFU book: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Fraud in food stamps. Simple math equals corruption. SNAFU says the military. The world will vote for the Antichrist.The Voice in the Wilderness does not endorse any link or other material found at buzzsprout.More at https://www.thevoiceinthewilderness.org/

Stephanie this time discusses the elections in California, New York, New Jersey, and Virginia. She also talks about the never-ending government shutdown and the millions of people who are being victimized by Trump as he gleefully holds America hostage. Guests: Jody Hamilton, Charlie Pierce, and JoJo From Jerz.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Joe Sudbay guests hosts while John is on his California cruise trip. Joe discusses Trump's Halloween glitzy Great Gatsby party - flouting lavishness while millions panic over SNAP benefits being constrained. He also talks about the major elections happening in New Jersey, Virginia, California, and New York. Then, he speaks with Jessica Mackler who is the president of EMILYs list. EMILYs List is backing both Democratic governor candidates (Mikie Sherrill in New Jersey and Abigail Spanberger in Virginia), as well as women candidates in every top red-to-blue flip opportunity in Virginia's House of Delegates races. In the last Southern state without an abortion ban, this year, Virginia's House will determine if voters can protect reproductive freedom through a constitutional amendment. And then finally, Joe interviews Alejandro Varela. His debut novel, The Town of Babylon was a finalist for the National Book Award. His latest novel, Middle Spoon, was published by Viking on September 9, 2025. His novels and stories take public health topics — from systemic racism to gentrification to sexuality — and make them accessible and memorable. Varela is an editor-at-large of Apogee Journal, and holds a masters degree in public health from the University of Washington.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mike Evans and Brandon Stokley kick off today’s show previewing today’s NFL trade deadline. What are the Broncos’ biggest needs? Will they even make a move? The 6am Duo get the 6am listeners involved by taking some texts about the short Raider week and the play calling. They hear from Grumpy Sean Payton. The guys decipher who the culprit in many of the special teams SNAFU’s truly is. Mike and Stoke are joined by our 9News Broncos Insider, Mike Klis, to get some insight into the Broncos’ trade deadline plans.  

Paul Scheer is an OG podcaster about movies. Ed tells him the story of the snooty country club project that ends up inciting the Johnstown Flood -- and becomes fodder for an epic silent film on its own. Subscribe to the SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPodBuy the SNAFU book: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

OCHELLI EFFECT 10-21-2025 SNAFU NEWS Chuck is going LIVE as the sun goes down on the East Coast of The U/s. Strange things are happening on a day when The Government is shutdown and The No Kings Thing is officially in the rear view mirror.THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISEDLIVE streams might inform you about it in real time if you can stay connected and know the difference between what is being revealed from the world or AI generated Propaganda on a mission that isn't actually yours. Chuck is following The LIVE stream from Federal Plaza in NYC. wgeb The podcast opens ...STAY TUNEDLIVE SKYFOX: ICE operations in New York Cityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdqzrxw2kJcTHE END OF THE AMERUCAN EMPIREhttps://youtube.com/shorts/_9U2DwigJ1M?si=wv7gMMpNXmInfovfLAWLESS & DIS ORDER on This Weeks All New MAGA Unreality Network ... DUN DUNIn The World of Criminals and Miscarriages The People and Justice are not representedThe Highest Bidding Criminals Get privilege The Rest of Us Get Abortions of Law Instead of Miscarrages These are NOT YOUR STORIESDUN DUNGeorge Santos expresses gratitude to Trump following commutation of his 7-year prison sentenceDisgraced former U.S. representative began serving his sentence in July for wire fraud and identity thefthttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/george-santos-expresses-gratitude-trump-following-commutation-7-year-prison-sentenceDisabled vet swindled by George Santos blasts Trump as disgraced GOP walks FREE from prisonhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15203735/Disabled-vet-swindled-George-Santos-blasts-Trump-letting-serial-scammer-prison.htmlWhy was former Rep. George Santos in prison? What to know as Trump commutes sentence.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/17/why-was-former-congressman-george-santos-in-prison/86754847007/Did Trump just try and say he was not in control of The FBI on January 6 2021? Biden placed people there before he took office?Trump falsely suggests FBI agents to blame for igniting Jan. 6 violenceThe president's baseless claim continued a yearslong effort to rewrite the history of the Capitol attack.https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/27/trump-january-6-fbi-00583383Trump appears to forget that Jan 6 happened on his watch as he blames Biden in late-night screed: ‘What a SCAM!'https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-biden-fbi-jan-6-post-b2843973.htmlFollowing up on the Phony Comey Hog and Pony ShowFormer Trump adviser John Bolton criminally indictedhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgql2qzkz5zoNew York Attorney General Letitia James criminally indictedhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9n4xj904oFirst Comey, then James, now John Bolton. Here's who is next on Trump's legal hit list.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/17/bolton-comey-james-who-next-trump-indictments/86733213007/Kash Patel has some wild acts to follow as the current FBI Chief. What is most hilarious is that Ochelli believes Comey when he says he believes in the integrity of a system that failed long before he got his establishment protection job. It makes sense when you see that Christopher Ray who Trump picked transitioned in public and no one noticed. Underqualified Trump supporter to enemy of the state?CON Preservatives? & Transparency of Plea Bargains , Bargains, and Please Pleas Shelf-Life As part of the Racket run laundering bribes in broad daylight through The Trump Presidential Library has a complex element where Rupert Murdoch's publishing company, HarperCollins has to comply so the family interest gets in on the TikTok grift despite The endless fellating of TRUMP that has been in progress for a decade on FOX NEWS and NEWS CORP. affiliates. Melania Trump and Jeffrey Epstein relationship claim removed from Prince Andrew bookhttps://inews.co.uk/news/world/melania-trump-jeffrey-epstein-relationship-claim-prince-andrew-book-3863220?srsltid=AfmBOop-He0UnleqzXSlWzYKLvxHW-UhRwRSob0rrhiwQOKZFw_dIyKaBOZO A ZOSOJeff Bezos:Founder, executive chairman, & former president, CEO of Amazon    AKA ALIEN flavored Danish with a Cuban NameMade Pizzo to THE ORANGE HAND in the sum of 40 Million to cover The Vig from past Due RespectAmazon licensed an upcoming Melania Trump documentary for $40 million, with a theatrical release planned for January 2026 before it hits Prime Video. "Melania", is directed by Brett Ratner and promises "unprecedented access" to her life during Orange Jesus second coming. post hocShort for “post hoc, ergo propter hoc,” a Latin phrase meaning “after this, therefore because of this.” The phrase expresses the logical fallacy of assuming that one thing caused another merely because the first thing preceded the other. In other words, it is the fallacy of inferring a causal relationship from a temporal one. For example, “the dog barked immediately before the power went out; therefore, the dog's bark caused the power to go out.”https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/post_hoc---WAR AND PEACE from THE PEACE PRESIDENT IN SEARCH OF A PRIZECan we actually keep score at home?Deadly Gaza flare-up tests Israel-Hamas ceasefirehttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxk8k4xlv1oDRUG WAR? US conducts seventh strike on boat allegedly involved in drug trafficking in the Caribbeanhttps://www.cnn.com/2025/10/19/politics/us-conducts-new-strike-on-ship-allegedly-involved-in-drug-trafficking-in-the-carribeanTrump Erroneously Thinks Killing Suspected Smugglers Is the Key to Winning the Drug Warhttps://reason.com/2025/10/17/trump-erroneously-thinks-killing-suspected-smugglers-is-the-key-to-winning-the-drug-war/Maybe a new invasion Target somewhere south of our borders.Trump confirms the CIA is conducting covert operations inside Venezuelahttps://www.npr.org/2025/10/16/g-s1-93677/trump-confirms-cia-operations-venezuelaOCHELLI WONDERS OULOUD if Media Outlets are publishing and POTUS is openly discussing a C.I.A. operation as it is being conducted, How The F__K does the word "covert" fit in? 4D chess thing again?Trump urged Ukraine's Zelenskiy to make concessions to Russia in tense meeting, sources sayhttps://www.reuters.com/world/trump-urged-zelenskiy-cut-deal-with-putin-or-risk-facing-destruction-ft-reports-2025-10-19/Can we actually keep score at home?Ordnance fired over 5 Freeway at Camp Pendleton during anniversary event prematurely detonated, striking CHP vehiclehttps://www.ocregister.com/2025/10/19/ordnance-fired-over-5-freeway-at-camp-pendleton-prematurely-detonates-striking-chp-vehicle/---MAGA ZINE TIMES COVER ART OF THE SQUEAL - NECK-GYNA CGI AI WIG PARTY POSSE 2025Trump is Unhappy with a TIME Magazine cover he didn't have photo shopped and might just bomb Norway for not getting a PEACE PRIZERite Aid shutters all stores after years of financial strugglesThe 60-year-old pharmacy chain filed for bankruptcy twice in two years before shutting down entirely.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rite-aid-closes-stores-nationwide-rcna235596The GOVERNMENT IS STILL SHUTDOWNDonald Trump Posts Bizarre AI Video of Himself in a ‘King Trump' Fighter Jet Bombing NYC Protestors With Streams of Fecal Matterhttps://variety.com/2025/digital/news/trump-ai-video-no-kings-fighter-jet-brown-sludge-protestors-1236556347/AMAZING FEET - WORLD RECORD - BRAVE SOLE in NEW ZEALAND A NEWS item we completely missed in SEPTEMBERMum with tough soles breaks record for fastest 100-m barefoot run over LEGO bricksBy Vicki NewmanPublished 04 September 2025https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2025/9/mum-with-tough-soles-breaks-record-for-fastest-100-m-barefoot-run-over-lego-bricksYoutube is eating cable newshttps://www.chaoticera.news/p/youtube-is-eating-cable-newsFox News, MSNBC, & CNN All Saw Their Ratings Drop in The 3rd Quarter of 2025 By As Much as 42%https://cordcuttersnews.com/fox-news-msnbc-cnn-all-saw-their-ratings-drop-in-the-3rd-quarter-of-2025-by-as-much-as-42/ A Wake to Remember: MSNBC Bids Farewell to Its Dying Audiencehttps://freebeacon.com/media/a-wake-to-remember-msnbc-bids-farewell-to-its-dying-audience/Anybody Else thinking of Lyrics from A Classic OZZY No Rest For The Wicked Track?your mother sells whelks by the hullhttps://youtu.be/50jw48zVCWk?si=oRpuN9G3PTTy49FoDr. Oz Adds ‘Underbabied' to List of Issues Facing American Familieshttps://www.jezebel.com/dr-oz-adds-underbabied-to-list-of-issues-facing-american-familiesDUH TAKE 2Teen Models, Rich Creeps, and the Epstein Pipelinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hGyDZmmEyk---ICE ICE BABY  (Too Cold) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4kiJ2dp0w4Blind man handcuffed, dragged by federal agents at ICE facility, he sayshttps://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/dhs-blind-protester-ice-facility/283-fb7e85ec-3009-4096-805b-bb14df6fc1feBill O'Reilly promised to protect Bad Bunny if gets pinched by ICE but what is THE BIG DEAL?The Bad Bunny Super Bowl 2026 Controversy, Explainedhttps://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/bad-bunny-super-bowl-2026-controversy.html&https://fandomwire.com/bad-bunny-in-super-bowl-halftime-2026-controversy-reaches-all-time-low-afteBE THE EFFECTListen/Chat on the Sitehttps://ochelli.com/listen-live/TuneInhttp://tun.in/sfxkxAPPLEhttps://music.apple.com/us/station/ochelli-com/ra.1461174708Ochelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelliAnything is a blessing if you have the meansWithout YOUR support we go silent.---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCEDISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/Coming SOON Room Discount Details The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201. easy access to Dealey Plaza

OCHELLI EFFECT 10-24-2025 SNAFU NEWS WEEKLY ROUND-UP BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOU - THE BRAVE PROUD FEW WHO SUPPORT AND ARE THE EFFECTBE THE EFFECTMrs.O LUNA ROSA CANDLES is the The PayPal Conduit NOWhttps://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/Kimberlysonn1ALSO BROUGHT TO YOU BY -(Quoth THE Rob Zombie)  J E S U S  BUILT  MY  HOT ROD So Late It's Early SHOW, Became It's early for a LIVE SHOW again on a Friday.Let us begin the pre-show with an old story that I wish was the overall solution and common fix for the tension headache  for us. That SUPER Migraine comes with a free drink of interactiin , daring to leave your living space and encountering human shaped entities that must be communicated with or to at no extra effort charge. Indeed, complimentary no matter what you attempt to order or pay for at the metaphorical DRIVE-UP window system a American F U Vendors everywhere. Store Participation DOES NOT VARY Branding NOT withstandingHear me out? I have an anecdote that tells of the angry lady that taught me breaking patterns and minimal warmth alters the future. Working a counter at a C-Store in between managing Gas + convenience store locations, going home to a an unrelenting verbally abusive wife who had an endless list of demands to match her impossible to satisfy even more endless grievances , while running a side hustle on Ebay before the phrase side hustle, or the post 9-11 things were things, and using any remaining energy between all that and 2-3 hours of sleep, showering and eating something while NOT simultaneously working with the free hand. 200 cups of coffee sold daily at my primary location was a count that made bosses unhappy and less than 10,000 Gallons of gas pumped in 24 hours was something that could cause me to be demoted or unemployed if either happened at the wrong time of year. Like Say if local roads were not on fire,  there was a power failure that caused the general area to go dark plus put my lights out and/or the surrounding 3 U.S. Military installations collaborated to close access to the area from nearby interstate, multiple arteries of traffic saturation, and The somewhat infamous New Jersey Turnpike and my angry wife seemed confused when once every month or 3, I would go somewhere with my best friend and drink until I felt like reality was washed away for an hour at least.Something aside from the mind numbing yet routine step-by-step feels-like-a-death-march pseudo torture of the grinding day that never wants to allow time to fly or even hop on one leg happened with another perpetually dis-satisfied woman like my wife, but only darkened my work Doorway for short visits about thrice a week. Listen to the podcast for the PIVOT Chuck didn't see coming... (Insert BLIND JOKE of your choice HERE)---A COUPLE LOOSE ENDS?It's time for another NEWS update from a guy who feels like no one wants to hear any analysis that isn't pre-packages to fit with your pre-conceptions and Prejudices. Police State Bounty Hunters: The Rise of ICE's Unconstitutional War on Americahttps://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/police-state-bounty-hunters-the-rise-of-ices-unconstitutional-war-on-america/What was going on the other day when Chuck was watching LIVE streams from NYC? Military-Style Immigration Sweep Hits NYC as Masked Federal Agents Arrest Canal Street Vendorshttps://www.thecity.nyc/2025/10/21/ice-raids-canal-street-trump-immigration/---DOES ANYBODY CARE? AP PLUS NEWSVANDAL = WEEKLY WORLD MIRROR SECTIONThe Rich get robbed and OCHELLI wonders allowed what in the hell kind of Fence do you need to off-load this score? Is it just a new Banksy installation?Louvre director acknowledges failure after jewel heist and says she offered to resignhttps://apnews.com/article/louvre-museum-theft-paris-jewels-b1fb405f231e190a4fc0c272a819186f?So Russia is still undisturbed or dissuaded blowing everything the hell up in Ukraine in case you've been in a coma past few years...U.S. announces new sanctions against Russia's two biggest oil companieshttps://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-drones-war-putin-trump-2cf465171be371a29e24aa600293b691?Who Made Who? A perfect way to understand who is pulling whose strings when it come to Israel and it's need to keep US Funding pouring in with no interruption. So that Bibi has no Pope-Like Fear when meeting with Vance. We seem to have funds for Israel and Argentina and are WINNING trade wars that raise Funds via the taxation of Tariffs with China and 100 other spots on the Globe, but there is no relief for your beef prices and by no means should we bail out poor Americans who can't afford the brutal costs of attempting to live in the land of the Free and home of the Engineered Phony Tough-guy Brave Anti-Social Media Warriors for Injustice unless you are a billionaire and can afford to buy the biggest Ballrooms for the People's house.White House Ballroom Continues Proud Presidential Legacy https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/10/white-house-ballroom-proud-presidential-legacy/AC/DC - Big Balls (Official Audio)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwJ6OVSwkMBig Balls - AC/DC | Karaoke Version | KaraFunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiSDpVmu4Bk Meanwhile the people can not afford the scraps from the lavish serving tables while 999 pairs of Balls go to the newly renovated walls of the Big Beautiful Room by "Private Donors" you can't quite sort from the Shut-Down Dot Gov Public venture also brought to you by, The Buyers of POWERAGE 2025 AKA Elite Tech-No-Bro-Crazy owners of the Corporate Raid in Progress in Grand Theft America Automatic. Devil in Disguise: John Wayne GacyIs out on PeacockNow it's two things. Documentary and Mini-series Drama.https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/devil-in-disguise-john-wayne-gacy-limited-series-detailshttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt31314754/The only other path to some level of Being Great in America on the lower rungs of the social and economic ladder of living is be a useful idiot, or tool for the useful idiots which does pay a living wage and you too can privately chat about losing a $2 Million Israeli Focused Donor possibly shifting your beliefs from pro to con in the question and answer PROVE ME WRONG battles for profit. In the Sphere of influence that keeps telling young republicans what they supposed to be voicing as their own original thoughts days before something bad happens to you (as per Candice Owens recent text revelations since She seems a bit confused about the true meaning of "Off-The-Record" is, was, and will be) and other "Young Republicans" can't keep their Pro-Hitler Texts from getting outted ite frankly MAGA is the establishment now. Trump and The Red Hats keep taking Victory Laps running rings around the pearl Clutching mob that can't tweet straight, or get their story heard. Strange how pussies are the alleged violent mob on a pointless No Kings display of nothing. No demands, and nothing gets done aside from what the winners decided.Candace Owens Shares Private Messages From Charlie Kirkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK6xIcC8UsECharlie Kirk Show Responds to Leaked Text Messageshttps://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-israel-candace-owens-turning-point-10845300A small price to put golden lipstick on the Orange Pig ahead of the 2028 Coronation and preparation for a canceled constitution incrementally loaded into this reality simulation for the true civil war that one leader told us about decades ago. No need to pound a shoe at the U.N. or FIRE A SHOT. The Stage is set, now we'll see the Political Muppets of Meat make low rent Hollywood magic from a full menu of DIY to high gloss Production fake News media leap from every kind of screen in a theater of the mind you should have control over near you into Everywhere, Everything, All At OnceVance denies the US dictates to Israel as he meets with Netanyahu over Gaza ceasefirehttps://apnews.com/article/gaza-ceasefire-vance-netanyahu-449c667c76cf166b233c20d3ed1dd044COVID-19 vaccines may help some cancer patients fight tumorshttps://apnews.com/article/mrna-vaccine-cancer-immunotherapy-pfizer-moderna-c632dacabb9208050b399da90630318f?Peter Thiel thinks Greta Thunberg could be the Antichrist. What actually is the Antichrist?https://theconversation.com/peter-thiel-thinks-greta-thunberg-could-be-the-antichrist-what-actually-is-the-antichrist-267439US assassinated fisherman in Colombian waters, family sayshttps://colombiareports.com/us-assassinated-fisherman-in-colombian-waters-family-says/My Bosses Were Afraid of Crossing Trump. So, I Quit.https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/10/22/alan-greenblatt-quit-governing-censorship-00617039‘Nearly Murdered': Jewish Reporter Who Filmed Violent Attack by Israeli Settlers Calls Out US Media for Ignoring Storyhttps://www.mediaite.com/media/news/nearly-murdered-jewish-reporter-who-filmed-violent-attack-by-israeli-settlers-calls-out-us-media-for-ignoring-story/Italian American Heritage is Important. Columbus is Not.https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2025/10/caruso-italian-american-heritage-is-important-columbus-is-notAre your News Alert Apps loaded with anything consistently when they hot you with push notifications?  Ochelli sees endless local gunfire plus the latest rage bait from the political world which has been significantly reduced since the government shutdown. How does your appear to you in the last month or so?Is the campaign commercial to convince the viewer that eradicating Hamas is the US is sending an aircraft carrier toBE THE EFFECTListen/Chat on the Sitehttps://ochelli.com/listen-live/TuneInhttp://tun.in/sfxkxAPPLEhttps://music.apple.com/us/station/ochelli-com/ra.1461174708Ochelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelliAnything is a blessing if you have the meansWithout YOUR support we go silent.---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCEDISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/Coming SOON Room Discount Details The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201. easy access to Dealey Plaza

Having the insaciable urge to lick something should lead a person to an ice cream cone or a lolipop--not frogs. But some people are just stupid, as you will discover when my Insane FL Nephew Pancho Guero will tell you. A lot of smart beds got stupid when the massive outage occurred at Amazon Web Services (AWS), leaving some night owls sleeping like a taco. Rage can manifest itself rapidly when life isn't moving fast enough for some people. Like those in a check-out line who just saw a great deal on a set of kitchen knives.In this Weekend Episode...[A Piece of My Mind]…Science Explains Why Most Men Can't Remember Anything You Tell ThemRain Is Bringing Out Toxic Toads & AZ Officials Have to Tell People to Stop Licking ThemPennsylvania Cat Survives 100-Mile Journey Clinging To Family VanMan Blames Flipping His Truck On A Chupacabra That ‘Ran Out In Front Of Him'The Big Internet Outage Caused Smart Beds to Get Stuck Upright24 "Rotten Corpses" Ruin Plans For A ‘Safe' Family Halloween PartyA Slow Checkout Line Caused a Woman to Buy a Knife and Stab Another CustomerFL Woman Arrested After Punching, Scratching, and BITING Boyfriend's Genitals During An AltercationPancho is faced with a couple of questionss that required little to no time to come up with an answer for such stupid ideas like whether it's OK for parents to let their 9-y/o girl dress up like a "Naughty Nurse" for Halloween and if it's a good idea to let ChatGPT give advice on breaking up with a boyfriend. You can play along with Pancho in our weekly Insane Game Show to see if you can figure out the 5 Mindbenders for this week!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/insane-erik-lane-s-stupid-world--6486112/support.Real-time updates and story links are found on the TELEGRAM Channel at: https://t.me/InsaneErikLane  (Theme song courtesy of Randy Stonehill, ”It's A Great Big Stupid World”. Copyright ©1992 Stonehillian Music/Word Music/Twitchin' Vibes Music/ASCAP) Order your copy on the Wonderama CD from Amazon!

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Welcome back to Snafu with Robin Zander. In this episode, I'm joined by Miki Johnson – coach, facilitator, and co-founder of Job Portraits, a creative studio that helped companies tell honest stories about their work and culture. Today, Miki leads Leading By Example, where she supports leaders and teams through moments of change – whether that's a career shift, new parenthood, or redefining purpose. We talk about how to navigate transition with awareness, why enjoying change takes practice, and what it means to lead with authenticity in uncertain times. Miki shares lessons from a decade of coaching and storytelling – from building human-centered workplaces to bringing more body and emotion into leadership. We also explore creativity in the age of AI, and how technology can either deepen or disconnect us from what makes us human. And if you're interested in these kinds of conversations, we'll be diving even deeper into the intersection of leadership, creativity, and AI at Responsive Conference 2026. If you're interested, get your tickets here! https://www.responsiveconference.com/  __________________________________________________________________________________________ 00:00 Start 01:20 Miki's Background and Reservations about AI Miki hasn't used AI and has “very serious reservations.” She's not anti-AI – just cautious and curious. Her mindset is about “holding paradox”, believing two opposing things can both be true. Her background shapes that approach. She started as a journalist, later ran her own businesses, and now works as a leadership coach. Early in her career, she watched digital technology upend media and photography – industries “blown apart” by change. When she joined a 2008 startup building editable websites for photographers, it was exciting but also unsettling. She saw innovation create progress and loss at the same time. Now in her 40s with two sons, her focus has shifted. She worries less about the tools and more about what they do to people's attention, empathy, and connection – and even democracy. Her concern is how to raise kids and stay human in a distracted world. Robin shares her concerns but takes a different approach. He notes that change now happens “day to day,” not decade to decade. He looks at technology through systems, questioning whether pre-internet institutions can survive. “Maybe the Constitution was revolutionary,” he says, “but it's out of date for the world we live in.” He calls himself a “relentless optimist,” believing in democracy and adaptability, but aware both could fail without reform. Both worry deeply about what technology is doing to kids. Robin cites The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt and says, “I don't believe social media is good for children.” He and his fiancée plan to limit their kids' screen time, just as Miki already does. They see it as a responsibility: raising grounded kids in a digital world. Robin sees AI as even more transformative – and risky – than anything before. “If social media is bigger than the printing press,” he says, “AI is bigger than the wheel.” He's amazed by its potential but uneasy about who controls it. He doubts people like Sam Altman act in the public's best interest. His concern isn't about rejecting AI but about questioning who holds power over it. Their difference lies in how they handle uncertainty. Miki's instinct is restraint and reflection – question first, act later, protect empathy and connection. Robin's instinct is engagement with vigilance – learn, adapt, and reform systems rather than retreat. Miki focuses on the human and emotional. Robin focuses on the structural and systemic. Both agree technology is moving faster than people can process or regulate. Miki uses curiosity to slow down and stay human. Robin uses curiosity to move forward and adapt. Together, they represent two sides of the same challenge: protecting what's most human while building what's next. 10:05 Navigating the Tech Landscape Miki starts by describing how her perspective has been shaped by living in two very different worlds. She spent over a decade in the Bay Area, surrounded by tech and startups. She later moved back to her small hometown of Athens, Ohio—a progressive college town surrounded by more rural areas. She calls it “a very small Austin”, a blue dot in a red state. She loves it there and feels lucky to have returned home. Robin interrupts briefly to highlight her background. He reminds listeners that Miki and her husband, Jackson, co-founded an employer branding agency called Job Portraits in 2014, the same year they got married. Over eight years, they grew it to around 15 full-time employees and 20 steady contractors. They worked with major startups like DoorDash, Instacart, and Eventbrite when those companies were still small—under 200 employees. Before that, they had started another venture in Chicago during Uber's early expansion beyond San Francisco. Their co-working space was right next to Uber's local team setting up drivers, giving them a front-row seat to the tech boom. Robin points out that Miki isn't coming at this topic as a “layperson.” She deeply understands technology, startups, and how they affect people. Miki continues, explaining how that background informs how she sees AI adoption today. Her Bay Area friends are all-in on AI. Many have used it since its earliest days—because it's part of their jobs, or because they're building it themselves. Others are executives leading companies developing AI tools. She's been watching it unfold closely for years, even if she hasn't used it herself. From her position outside the tech bubble now, she can see two clear camps: Those immersed in AI, excited and moving fast. And those outside that world—more cautious, questioning what it means for real people and communities. Living between those worlds—the fast-paced tech culture and her slower, more grounded hometown—gives her a unique vantage point. She's connected enough to understand the innovation but distant enough to see its costs and consequences. 16:39 The Cost of AI Adoption Miki points out how strange it feels to people in tech that she hasn't used AI. In her Bay Area circles, the idea is almost unthinkable. Miki understands why it's shocking. It's mostly circumstance—her coaching work doesn't require AI. Unlike consultants who “all tell leaders how to use AI,” her work is based on real conversations, not digital tools. Her husband, Jackson, also works at a “zero-technology” K–12 school he helped create, so they both exist in rare, tech-free spaces. She admits that's partly luck, not moral superiority, just “tiny pockets of the economy” where avoiding AI is still possible. Robin responds with his own story about adopting new tools. He recalls running Robin's Café from 2016 to 2019, when most restaurants still used paper timesheets. He connected with two young founders who digitized timesheets, turning a simple idea into a company that later sold to a global conglomerate. By the time he sold his café, those founders had retired in their 20s. “I could still run a restaurant on paper,” he says, “but why would I, if digital is faster and easier?” He draws a parallel between tools over time—handwriting, typing, dictation. Each serves a purpose, but he still thinks best when writing by hand, then typing, then dictating. The point: progress adds options, not replacements. Miki distills his point: if a tool makes life easier, why not use it? Robin agrees, and uses his own writing practice as an example. He writes a 1,000-word weekly newsletter called Snafu. Every word is his, but he uses AI as an editor—to polish, not to create. He says, “I like how I think more clearly when I write regularly.” For him, writing is both communication and cognition—AI just helps him iterate faster. It's like having an instant editor instead of waiting a week for human feedback. He reminds his AI tools, “Don't write for me. Just help me think and improve.” When Miki asks why he's never had an editor, he explains that he has—but editors are expensive and slow. AI gives quick, affordable feedback when a human editor isn't available. Miki listens and reflects on the trade-offs. “These are the cost-benefit decisions we all make,” she says—small, constant choices about convenience and control. What unsettles her is how fast AI pushes that balance. She sees it as part of a long arc—from the printing press to now—but AI feels like an acceleration. It's “such a powerful technology moving so fast” that it's blowing the cover off how society adapts to change. Robin agrees: “It's just the latest version of the same story, since writing on cave walls.” 20:10 The Future of Human-AI Relationships Miki talks about the logical traps we've all started accepting over time. One of the biggest, she says, is believing that if something is cheaper, faster, or easier – it's automatically better. She pushes further: just because something is more efficient doesn't mean it's better than work. There are things you gain from working with humans that no machine can replicate, no matter how cheap or convenient it becomes. But we rarely stop to consider the real cost of trading that away. Miki says the reason we overlook those costs is capitalism. She's quick to clarify – she's not one of those people calling late-stage capitalism pure evil. Robin chimes in: “It's the best of a bunch of bad systems.” Miki agrees, but says capitalism still pushes a dangerous idea: It wants humans to behave like machines—predictable, tireless, cheap, and mistake-free. And over time, people have adapted to that pressure, becoming more mechanical just to survive within it. Now we've created a tool—AI—that might actually embody those machine-like ideals. Whether or not it reaches full human equivalence, it's close enough to expose something uncomfortable: We've built a human substitute that eliminates everything messy, emotional, and unpredictable about being human. Robin takes it a step further, saying half-jokingly that if humanity lasts long enough, our grandchildren might date robots. “Two generations from now,” he says, “is it socially acceptable—maybe even expected—that people have robot spouses?” He points out it's already starting—people are forming attachments to ChatGPT and similar AIs. Miki agrees, noting that it's already common for people under 25 to say they've had meaningful interactions with AI companions. Over 20% of them, she estimates, have already experienced this. That number will only grow. And yet, she says, we talk about these changes as if they're inevitable—like we don't have a choice. That's what frustrates her most: The narrative that AI “has to” take over—that it's unstoppable and universal—isn't natural evolution. It's a story deliberately crafted by those who build and profit from it. “Jackson's been reading the Hacker News comments for 15 years,” she adds, hinting at how deep and intentional those narratives run in the tech world. She pauses to explain what Hacker News is for anyone unfamiliar. It's one of the few online forums that's still thoughtful and well-curated. Miki says most people there are the ones who've been running and shaping the tech world for years—engineers, founders, product leaders. And if you've followed those conversations, she says, it's obvious that the people developing AI knew there would be pushback. “Because when you really stop and think about it,” she says, “it's kind of gross.” The technology is designed to replace humans—and eventually, to replace their jobs. And yet, almost no one is seriously talking about what happens when that becomes real. “I'm sorry,” she says, “but there's just something in me that says—dating a robot is bad for humanity. What is wrong with us?” Robin agrees. “I don't disagree,” he says. “It's just… different from human.” Miki admits she wrestles with that tension. “Every part of me says, don't call it bad or wrong—we have to make space for difference.” But still, something in her can't shake the feeling that this isn't progress—it's disconnection. Robin expands on that thought, saying he's not particularly religious, but he does see humanity as sacred. “There's something fundamental about the human soul,” he says. He gives examples: he has metal in his ankle from an old injury; some of his family members are alive only because of medical devices. Technology, in that sense, can extend or support human life. But the idea of replacing or merging humans with machines—of being subsumed by them—feels wrong. “It's not a world I want to live in,” he says plainly. He adds that maybe future generations will think differently. “Maybe our grandkids will look at us and say, ‘Okay boomer—you never used AI.'” 24:14 Practical Applications of AI in Daily Life Robin shares a story about a house he and his fiancée almost bought—one that had a redwood tree cut down just 10 feet from the foundation. The garage foundation was cracked, the chimney tilted—it was clear something was wrong. He'd already talked to arborists and contractors, but none could give a clear answer. So he turned to ChatGPT's Deep Research—a premium feature that allows for in-depth, multi-source research across the web. He paid $200 a month for unlimited access. Ran 15 deep research queries simultaneously. Generated about 250 pages of analysis on redwood tree roots and their long-term impact on foundations. He learned that if the roots are alive, they can keep growing and push the soil upward. If they're dead, they decompose, absorb and release water seasonally, and cause the soil to expand and contract. Over time, that movement creates air pockets under the house—tiny voids that could collapse during an earthquake. None of this, Robin says, came from any contractor, realtor, or arborist. “Even they said I'd have to dig out the roots to know for sure,” he recalls. Ultimately, they decided not to buy that house—entirely because of the data he got from ChatGPT. “To protect myself,” he says, “I want to use the tools I have.” He compares it to using a laser level before buying a home in earthquake country: “If I'll use that, why not use AI to explore what I don't know?” He even compares Deep Research to flipping through Encyclopedia Britannica as a kid—hours spent reading about dinosaurs “for no reason other than curiosity.” Robin continues, saying it's not that AI will replace humans—it's that people who use AI will replace those who don't. He references economist Tyler Cowen's Average Is Over (2012), which described how chess evolved in the early 2000s. Back then, computers couldn't beat elite players on their own—but a human + computer team could beat both humans and machines alone. “The best chess today,” Robin says, “is played by a human and computer together.” “There are a dozen directions I could go from there,” Miki says. But one idea stands out to her: We're going to have to choose, more and more often, between knowledge and relationships. What Robin did—turning to Deep Research—was choosing knowledge. Getting the right answer. Having more information. Making the smarter decision. But that comes at the cost of human connection. “I'm willing to bet,” she says, “that all the information you found came from humans originally.” Meaning: there were people who could have told him that—just not in that format. Her broader point: the more we optimize for efficiency and knowledge, the less we may rely on each other. 32:26 Choosing Relationships Over AI Robin points out that everything he learned from ChatGPT originally came from people. Miki agrees, but says her work is really about getting comfortable with uncertainty. She helps people build a relationship with the unknown instead of trying to control it. She mentions Robin's recent talk with author Simone Stolzoff, who's writing How to Not Know—a book she can't wait to read. She connects it to a bigger idea: how deeply we've inherited the Enlightenment mindset. “We're living at the height of ‘I think, therefore I am,'” she says. If that's your worldview, then of course AI feels natural. It fits the logic that more data and more knowledge are always better. But she's uneasy about what that mindset costs us. She worries about what's happening to human connection. “It's all connected,” she says—our isolation, mental health struggles, political polarization, even how we treat the planet. Every time we choose AI over another person, she sees it as part of that drift away from relationship. “I get why people use it,” she adds. “Capitalism doesn't leave most people much of a choice.” Still, she says, “Each time we pick AI over a human, that's a decision about the kind of world we're creating.” Her choice is simple: “I'm choosing relationships.” Robin gently pushes back. “I think that's a false dichotomy,” he says. He just hosted Responsive Conference—250 people gathered for human connection. “That's why I do this podcast,” he adds. “To sit down with people and talk, deeply.” He gives a personal example. When he bought his home, he spoke with hundreds of people—plumbers, electricians, roofers. “I'm the biggest advocate for human conversations,” he says. “So why not both? Why not use AI and connect with people?” To him, the real question is about how we use technology consciously. “If we stopped using AI because it's not human,” he asks, “should we stop using computers because handwriting is more authentic?” “Should we reject the printing press because it's not handwritten?” He's not advocating blind use—he's asking for mindful coexistence. It's also personal for him. His company relies on AI tools—from Adobe to video production. “AI is baked into everything we do,” he says. And he and his fiancée—a data scientist—often talk about what that means for their future family. “How do we raise kids in a world where screens and AI are everywhere?” Then he asks her directly: “What do you tell your clients? Treat me like one—how do you help people navigate this tension?” Miki smiles and shakes her head. “I don't tell people what to do,” she says. “I'm not an advisor, I'm a coach.” Her work is about helping people trust their own intuition. “Even when what they believe is contrarian,” she adds. She admits she's still learning herself. “My whole stance is: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.” She and her husband, Jackson, live by the idea of strong opinions, loosely held. She stays open—lets new conversations change her mind. “And they do,” she says. “Every talk like this shifts me a little.” She keeps seeking those exchanges—with parents, tech workers, friends—because everyone's trying to figure out the same thing: How do we live well with technology, without losing what makes us human? 37:16 The Amish Approach to Technology Miki reflects on how engineers are both building and being replaced by AI. She wants to understand the technology from every angle—how it works, how it affects people, and what choices it leaves us with. What worries her is the sense of inevitability around AI—especially in places like the Bay Area. “It's like no one's even met someone who doesn't use it,” she says. She knows it's embedded everywhere—Google searches, chatbots, everything online. But she doesn't use AI tools directly or build with them herself. “I don't even know the right terminology,” she admits with a laugh. Robin points out that every Google search now uses an LLM. Miki nods, saying her point isn't denial—it's about choice. “You can make different decisions,” she says. She admits she hasn't studied it deeply but brings up an analogy that helps her think about tech differently: the Amish. “I call myself kind of ‘AI Amish,'” she jokes. She explains her understanding of how the Amish handle new technology. They're not anti-tech; they're selective. They test and evaluate new tools to see if they align with their community's values. “They ask, does it build connection or not?” They don't just reject things—they integrate what fits. In her area of Ohio, she's seen Amish people now using electric bikes. “That's new since I was a kid,” she says. It helps them connect more with each other without harming the environment. They've also used solar power for years. It lets them stay energy independent without relying on outside systems that clash with their values. Robin agrees—it's thoughtful, not oppositional. “They're intentional about what strengthens community,” he says. Miki continues: What frustrates her is how AI's creators have spent the last decade building a narrative of inevitability. “They knew there would be resistance,” she says, “so they started saying, ‘It's just going to happen. Your jobs won't be taken by AI—they'll be taken by people who use it better than you.'” She finds that manipulative and misleading. Robin pushes back gently. “That's partly true—but only for now,” he says. He compares it to Uber and Lyft: at first, new jobs seemed to appear, but eventually drivers started being replaced by self-driving cars. Miki agrees. “Exactly. First it's people using AI, then it's AI replacing people,” she says. What disturbs her most is the blind trust people put in companies driven by profit. “They've proven over and over that's their motive,” she says. “Why believe their story about what's coming next?” She's empathetic, though—she knows why people don't push back. “We're stressed, broke, exhausted,” she says. “Our nervous systems are fried 24/7—especially under this administration.” “It's hard to think critically when you're just trying to survive.” And when everyone around you uses AI, it starts to feel mandatory. “People tell me, ‘Yeah, I know it's a problem—but I have to. Otherwise I'll lose my job.'” “Or, ‘I'd have bought the wrong house if I didn't use it.'” That “I have to” mindset, she says, is what scares her most. Robin relates with his own example. “That's how I felt with TikTok,” he says. He got hooked early on, staying up until 3 a.m. scrolling. After a few weeks, he deleted the app and never went back. “I probably lose some business by not being there,” he admits. “But I'd rather protect my focus and my sanity.” He admits he couldn't find a way to stay on the platform without it consuming him. “I wasn't able to build a system that removed me from that platform while still using that platform.” But he feels differently about other tools. For example, LinkedIn has been essential—especially for communicating with Responsive Conference attendees. “It was our primary method of communication for 2025,” he says. So he tries to choose “the lesser of two evils.” “TikTok's bad for my brain,” he says. “I'm not using it.” “But with LLMs, it's different.” When researching houses, he didn't feel forced into using them to “keep up.” To him, they're just another resource. “If encyclopedias are available, use them. If Wikipedia's available, use both. And if LLMs can help, use all three.” 41:45 The Pressure to Conform to Technology Miki challenges that logic. “When was the last time you opened an encyclopedia?” Robin pauses. “Seven years ago.” Miki laughs. “Exactly. It's a nice idea that we'll use all the tools—but humans don't actually do that.” We gravitate toward what's easiest. “If you check eBay, there are hundreds of encyclopedia sets for sale,” she says. “No one's using them.” Robin agrees but takes the idea in a new direction. “Sure—but just because something's easy doesn't mean it's good,” he says. He compares it to food: “It's easier to eat at McDonald's than cook at home,” he says. But easy choices often lead to long-term problems. He mentions obesity in the U.S. as a cautionary parallel. Some things are valuable because they're hard. “Getting in my cold plunge every morning isn't easy,” he says. “That's why I do it.” “Exercise never gets easy either—but that's the point.” He adds a personal note: “I grew up in the mountains. I love being at elevation, off-grid, away from electricity.” He could bring Starlink when he travels, but he chooses not to. Still, he's not trying to live as a total hermit. “I don't want to live 12 months a year at 10,000 feet with a wood stove and no one around.” “There's a balance.” Miki nods, “I think this is where we need to start separating what we can handle versus what kids can.” “We're privileged adults with fully formed brains,” she points out. “But it's different for children growing up inside this system.” Robin agrees and shifts the focus. Even though you don't give advice professionally,” he says, “I'll ask you to give it personally.” “You're raising kids in what might be the hardest time we've ever seen. What are you actually practicing at home?” 45:30 Raising Children in a Tech-Driven World Robin reflects on how education has shifted since their grandparents' time Mentions “Alpha Schools” — where AI helps kids learn basic skills fast (reading, writing, math) Human coaches spend the rest of the time building life skills Says this model makes sense: Memorizing times tables isn't useful anymore He only learned to love math because his dad taught him algebra personally — acted like a coach Asks Miki what she thinks about AI and kids — and what advice she'd give him as a future parent Miki's first response — humility and boundaries “First off, I never want to give parents advice.” Everyone's doing their best with limited info and energy Her kids are still young — not yet at the “phone or social media” stage So she doesn't pretend to have all the answers Her personal wish vs. what's realistic Ideal world: She wishes there were a global law banning kids from using AI or social media until age 18 Thinks it would genuinely be better for humanity References The Anxious Generation Says there's growing causal evidence, not just correlation, linking social media to mental health issues Mentions its impact on children's nervous systems and worldview It wires them for defense rather than discovery Real world: One parent can't fight this alone — it's a collective action problem You need communities of parents who agree on shared rules Example: schools that commit to being zero-technology zones Parents and kids agree on: What ages tech is allowed Time limits Common standards Practical ideas they're exploring Families turning back to landlines Miki says they got one recently Not an actual landline — they use a SIM adapter and an old rotary phone Kids use it to call grandparents Her partner Jackson is working on a bigger vision: Building a city around a school Goal: design entire communities that share thoughtful tech boundaries Robin relates it to his own childhood Points out the same collective issue — “my nephews are preteens” It's one thing for parents to limit screen time But if every other kid has access, that limit won't hold Shares his own experience: No TV or video games growing up So he just went to neighbors' houses to play — human nature finds a way Says individual family decisions don't solve the broader problem Miki agrees — and expands the concern Says the real issue is what kids aren't learning Their generation had “practice time” in real-world social interactions Learned what jokes land and which ones hurt Learned how to disagree, apologize, or flirt respectfully Learned by trial and error — through millions of small moments With social media and AI replacing those interactions: Kids lose those chances entirely Results she's seeing: More kids isolating themselves Many afraid to take social or emotional risks Fewer kids dating or engaging in real-life relationships Analogy — why AI can stunt development “Using AI to write essays,” she says, “is like taking a forklift to the gym.” Sure, you lift more weight — but you're not getting stronger Warns this is already visible in workplaces: Companies laying off junior engineers AI handles the entry-level work But in 5 years, there'll be no trained juniors left to replace seniors Concludes that where AI goes next “is anybody's guess” — but it must be used with intention 54:12 Where to Find Miki Invites others to connect Mentions her website: leadingbyexample.life Visitors can book 30-minute conversations directly on her calendar Says she's genuinely open to discussing this topic with anyone interested  

Nick Kroll is not so great in a crisis, especially a family fishing trip. So naturally, Ed wanted to bring NIck back to the sea for the harrowing story of Ernie Shackleton's failed expedition to Antarctica, complete with dogloos, stowaway cats, and a chance to celebrate the explorers who push humanity forward. Subscribe to the SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPodBuy the SNAFU book: www.snafu-book.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Election Day is three weeks from today in Pennsylvania, on Tuesday, November 4th. And there’s a snafu with some mail-in ballots in Luzerne County. More than half of Penn State’s staff say they don’t have confidence in senior leadership. That’s according to a newly released staff satisfaction survey. The Trump administration is asking the University of Pennsylvania and eight other schools to make drastic changes in the way they operate, in exchange for access to federal grants, research funding, and visas for international students. A loan program to help social-service agencies during the state budget impasse is drawing fire in Harrisburg. Republican treasurer Stacy Garrity says the loans will help schools and other groups waiting for state funds. But Democrats say Republicans are dragging out the budget fight to help Garrity, who hopes to unseat Governor Josh Shapiro next year. And a deep dive into how the state budget impasse is holding up Pennsylvania college students’ financial aid information. Charlotte Keith of Spotlight PA is in conversation with WITF’s Karen Hendricks. Did you know that if every sustaining circle member gives as little as $12 more a month, we'd close the gap caused by federal funding cuts? Increase your gift at https://witf.org/increase or become a new sustaining member at www.witf.org/givenow, and thanks!Support WITF: https://www.witf.org/support/give-now/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ochelli Effect 10-7-2025 SNAFU NEWS After 3 quarters of 2025 Under GOP TRUMP style regime by Proxi Project 2025 Rule in what was once America, Am I NOW allowed to ask when or if Trump accepts Blame??Seems like NO.Shooting for No More News Speak!Let's get to a couple, three things ...---TODAYTROOPS are being deployed and already active in select cities near you.Memphis, Los Angels, Portland, (GOP FAV) Chicago, DC, and we can all assume many more will become domestic training grounds or staging areas for Wars on The Alleged Enemy Within. Unless I am misreading intent and statements made by those who currently hold, enable, and support Those in Power?Senator Shifty Vs. AG BLONDIEPam Bondi, Adam Schiff spar at Senate oversight hearinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knPQUHJbAywBlumenthal and STOLEN VALOR has been at issue as Bondi attacked him when she felt questioning her integrity was happeningSIMPLEBlumenthal said some places he was a Vietnam Vet, and It Turns out he was a veteran in The Vietnam Era, which was either a mistake or intentional lie to gain more credibility in his political post-service ventures dating back to at least 15 years ago. No NEW WARS? well those boats and new attacks on a foreign nation seem to be a new war or at least a new theater of war in The Drug War. Do we need to see in a crystal ball where the war goes next?White House rebukes ‘egregious' court order blocking troop deployments amid Portland unrestThe ruling is "one of the most egregious and thunderous violations of constitutional order we have ever seen," Stephen Miller saidhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-slams-egregious-court-order-blocking-troop-deployments-amid-portland-unrestTrump's National Guard Moves Are Part of a Dangerous Plan, California AG Warnshttps://www.kqed.org/news/12058799/trumps-national-guard-moves-are-part-of-a-dangerous-plan-california-ag-warnsCulture WarsRenewed Drug warsWar against "The Left"Rumors of Civil WarsWars of words by the best words from all STABLE Genius mouths?Is Orwell smiling over the Nobel Peace Prize demands of The POTUS?ARE You With THEM, or  WITH THE ANTIFA Terrorists? As we approach Halloween Time, Is Santa still in charge of Christmas? As of October 7, 2025, it has beentwo years since the Hamas attack on Israel.1,321 days since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine began on February 24, 2022.In Orwell's 1984, Oceania is in a state of perpetual war with the other two superstates, Eurasia and Eastasia, though the specific enemy frequently changes to maintain a state of perpetual conflict that uses up surplus resources and keeps the population impoverished and ignorant. Oceania is at war with both Eurasia and Eastasia, but it is unclear which is the primary enemy at any given moment, as the state's allegiance shifts and is presented differently in propaganda.Trump, Project 2025 and ‘Culture Wars'https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/trump-project-2025-and-culture-wars/---MEDIA MAYHEMBy The Way, There is a Supermoon coming in October. The U.s. Government Big Beautiful Showcase Shutdown is already in progress, and Yes Bob Barker The Alleged actual opposition is already neutered.Ochelli has to at least mention the off-cycle 2025 (S)election effecting Jersey, Right?So in some places character is a throwback issue, 90s 70s 60s or the rest of American history style , but only in off Presidential decisions and aside from midterm Years? Or is this just more Dirty Jersey Purple State Madness that gets as personal as anybody can and happens to invole another embarrassing Italian?How Mikie Sherrill's Navy records could impact the N.J. governor's racehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY4Gxf-KZ54Calls for criminal investigation into release of Mikie Sherrill's military recordshttps://abc7ny.com/post/calls-investigation-release-mikie-sherrills-military-records-amid-ugly-nj-governor-race-jack-ciattarelli/17882493/A NARA standard behavior may ne responsible for influencing the NJ Gov. selection 2025 as (R) Jack Ciattarelli vs. (D) Mikie Sherrills gets a bit of an old school shake-up because A Former Navy Helicopter Pilot, congressmember, and war veteran was barred from walking in her 1994 Naval Academy graduation for failing to report classmates who had cheated on an exam. There are allegations that her opponent in the current very close race may have been involved with leaking personal records that were made available by NARA in violation of the 1974 privacy act.That should have prevented the politician from being Doxed in a by a federal agancy. This allowed public view of information that should have been redacted and has been cited as opposition research to litigate her candidacy in the court of public opinion. Social Security Numbers, Insurance Details, Addresses of The Candidate and family members have now been disseminated.THERE WILL NOT BE AN ITALIAN POTUS IN CHUCK"S LIFETIME AND BEYONDCiattarelli doesn't have a clear meaning in Italian, seems to be of southern Italian origin, and may simply be a name that is just meant to be a name. CH A TER L LEE 40 Presidents have Dollar Coins and only dead POTUS was eligible when the program for the Gold Metallic color series was being minted and ended. H.W. got a special made after , but Obama, Trump, Biden, Clinton, Carter, and W could be added later by acts of congress. Rush announce reunion tour five years after the death of drummer Neil Pearthttps://apnews.com/article/rush-reunion-tour-neil-peart-new-drummer-anika-nilles-9527015b58124236e8f9413dd074db77?Trump says he'd consider Ghislaine Maxwell pardon and mentions Diddy in same breath as Epstein pal: ‘Have to take a look'https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-talks-diddy-ghislaine-maxwell-211721407.htmlAnother Ochelli Prediction that will fall down the memory hole, When the Crypto-Media scheme is revealed, It will be a mad dash to figure out who lined who's pockets.TRUMP/Ellison is just one portion of the multi-layered, multi-generational Dynasty we are witnessing as it is born and becomes the future Borg.Media world rocked as Bari Weiss takes over CBS News as editor-in-chiefhttps://www.foxnews.com/media/bari-weiss-joins-cbs-news-editor-in-chief-paramount-buys-free-press-150-millionDavid Ellison And Bari Weiss Tell CBS News Employees Of Their Goal To Restore Trust; Read Their Notes To Staffershttps://deadline.com/2025/10/read-bari-weiss-david-ellison-notes-cbs-news-1236571011/Move over, Murdochs - a new family dynasty is shaking up US mediahttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr4qwwk0g0yoSeymour HershIS TRUMP IN COGNITIVE DECLINE?The view from inside is that the president has been slippinghttps://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/is-trump-in-cognitive-decline?Kakistocracy is a thing even if the population thinks it's winning. Neofascism may have multiple colored horses in the derby.---PSUEDO or NEO RELIGION If Propaganda falls on the Internet, Does Everyone Hear it?In the Bible according to MAGA...Trump plans aid package for US soybean farmers while seeking trade deal with Chinahttps://apnews.com/article/trump-china-soybean-farmers-trade-war-aid-1a848735ba89c2673d44489eea5a0e35AI ‘Text With Jesus' app is exploding despite concerns of possible blasphemyhttps://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/10/06/ai-text-with-jesus-app-is-exploding-despite-concerns-of-possible-blasphemy-1590395/Trump: Hamas agreeing to important things, Gaza peace within reachhttps://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/415918New generation of militias steps out of Hamas's shadow to fill Gaza power vacuumhttps://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2025/10/07/new-generation-of-militias-step-out-of-hamass-shadow-to-fill-gaza-power-vacuum/Hijacked alternative media of the past co-opted perfectly. Funny Ochelli gets no credit for telling the future just rage from those who believe he was out to get their heroes and only THEIR HEROES. Sad to say he was out to expose all of the One party Grifters, but it doesn't matter when you punish an honest analyst, so long as the reckoning is due.Manosphere Influencers Who Boosted Trump Are Now Cooling on Himhttps://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/theo-von-joe-rogan-manosphere-influencers-trump-1235441563/ Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson's Conspiracy Theories Totally Wreck the Credibility That Alternative Media is Trying to Gainhttps://www.mediaite.com/opinion/candace-owens-and-tucker-carlsons-loony-conspiracy-theories-totally-wreck-the-credibility-that-alternative-media-is-trying-to-gain/ There's that Trump Trojan Horse AgainLouis C.K.'s Saudi Arabia Defense Is Terrible https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/10/07/louis-ck-saudi-arabia-defense-terrible/TIT-FOR-TAT TAC TOE?Jack Smith Faces Arrest Calls Over ‘Arctic Frost' Investigationhttps://www.newsweek.com/jack-smith-faces-arrest-calls-over-arctic-frost-investigation-10838199---WORTH REPEATINGThe Umbrella Man (2018)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmNJuJzdVLUCredit to Jimmy James for sending me this failed propaganda message in a bottle-neck for much more than the a metaphor in the metadata corrupted by but not owned by metaverse.---NOT QUITING AS LONG AS YOU KEEP US GOINGBE TBE THE EFFECTListen/Chat on the Sitehttps://ochelli.com/listen-live/TuneInhttp://tun.in/sfxkxAPPLEhttps://music.apple.com/us/station/ochelli-com/ra.1461174708Ochelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelliAnything is a blessing if you have the meansWithout YOUR support we go silent.---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCEDISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/Coming SOON Room Discount Details The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201. easy access to Dealey Plaza

We are joined today by Ethan's friend Justin Trisket as Dennis was unable to join us this month. Today we talked about the lack of tolerance in today's society. It was so sad to see that Charlie Kirk was shot while doing a live event at a college campus. I can't believe that someone would murder someone else for having opposite political beliefs and views in this country. It hurts my heart to see so many people happy that a fellow American was murdered just because he had different opinions than they do. The fact that some people would go on social media and celebrate gun violence against Charlie is unacceptable. We all need to be more tolerant of one another and work together to be united as a country.   We also talked about the SNAFU that is; Sig Sauer's response to the problems with the P320 pistol discharges. The company has not handled the allegations against their pistol properly in our opinion. I'm personally a little worried for their future if they continue down this road. I also have a P320 pistol and worry that it won't be safe for use with these issues.   Welcome to the new segment of the Uncensored Humanity Podcast we will be calling Joking in the Boy's Room. My two co-hosts Ethan Frontz and Dennis Heil and I will be discussing current events and other topics we find interesting. The three of us will be sitting down once a month to record a new podcast.   In the future I'd definitely like to get into answering listener submitted questions. So hopefully we can get that going as I think it would be fun to see the boyos perspectives on submitted questions.     If you want to contact the show you can go to https://www.uncensoredhumanity.com/ and fill out the Contact Us form. Or email us at uncensoredhumanitypodcast@gmail.com. Feel free to ask a question to any of our regular guests, let us know if you have a topic you want us to cover or just let us know what you think of the episode. We look forward to hearing from you.       © 2018 Uncensored Humanity   Artwork by Kathryn Kidwell

Ochelli Effect 10-2-2025 SNAFU NEWSThor's Day, Eight O'clock and all is not well on the Homefront it seems.Hulk Hogan and Kirk Land Conspiracies are running wild on GooTube and yet a sober look at what debate and the debased linguistics are too simplistic as we are surrounded by those that mangle the language way worse than my oddly attached Grade and High School teachers droned on about and most seemed to think Ebonics was the destruction of American English in general.---Trump says US is in ‘armed conflict' with drug cartels after ordering strikes in the Caribbeanhttps://apnews.com/article/trump-cartels-armed-conflict-cb57804807e55a00ace60ad5f4d4f24d?President Trump Plans To Investigate and “Disrupt” Opposition Speechhttps://www.cato.org/blog/white-house-maps-plans-investigate-disrupt-dissenting-speech'None of us have ever asked for special treatment' - US female veterans respond to Hegseth speechhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8525w2v5wo Hegseth Is Right — We Need To Rethink Women's Role In The Militaryhttps://thefederalist.com/2025/10/01/hegseth-is-right-we-need-to-rethink-womens-role-in-the-military/ICE officers to attend Super Bowl after Bad Bunny announcement, says Lewandowskihttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5534003-bad-bunny-to-headline/Most Voters Think America's Divisions Cannot Be Overcome, Poll Sayshttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/us/politics/times-siena-poll-political-polarization.htmlOzzy Osbourne: No Escape from Nowhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt35922832/https://www.ozzy.com/archives/news/paramount-announces-feature-length-documentary-ozzy-osbourne-no-escape-from-now---TODAY's NEWSVANDAL selections from so-called Election?Who is Howard Lutnick and why should this concern you?After graduating from Haverford College in 1983 with a degree in economics, Howard began working for Cantor Fitzgerald. When Howard Lutnick was 29 he was named second in command of Cantor Fitzgerald and a year later Howard became the president and CEO of Cantor in 1991 and Chairman in 1996.https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2965714/bio/So a big banker connected to the Real Estate Hustler from Queens Trump is in as the economic genius that thinks Tariffs will fund the government as in on top of the current taxes paid except when New Orange is the old trickle down messiah makes exceptions and rigs business across the board for importers. AKA MAGA-Nomics Defective Comics 2025. T rump's "tariff czar": Lutnick has been described as an architect of Trump's tariff policy. When nominating him, Trump stated Lutnick would "lead our tariff and trade agenda"Howard Lutnick is the U.S. Secretary of Commerce in the second Trump administration and a strong advocate for his tariffsHoward Lutnick and Jeffrey Epstein    Neighbors in Manhattan: Lutnick and Epstein were neighbors in Manhattan, with Lutnick living at 11 East 71st Street and Epstein at the adjacent 9 East 71st Street.    "Greatest blackmailer ever" comments: In an October 2025 interview, Lutnick stated his assumption that Epstein filmed associates being massaged in his home to blackmail them. He called Epstein "the greatest blackmailer ever".Howard Lutnick Says Former Neighbor Epstein Was ‘Greatest Blackmailer Ever'https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/02/howard-lutnick-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail/Trump Cabinet Secretary Howard Lutnick Faces Call to Testify Over His ‘Explosive' Epstein Blackmail Claimshttps://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-cabinet-secretary-howard-lutnick-faces-call-to-testify-over-his-explosive-epstein-blackmail-claims/ Did Jeffrey Epstein “Belong to Intelligence”?https://www.skeptic.com/article/did-jeffrey-epstein-belong-to-intelligence/Which Wall Street Banks Loved Pedo Jeffrey Epstein As Much As His BFF Trump Loved Him? These Did!https://www.wonkette.com/p/which-wall-street-banks-loved-pedo---The Umbrella Man (2018)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmNJuJzdVLUCredit to Jimmy James for sending me this failed propaganda message in a bottle-neck for much more than the a metaphor in the metadata corrupted by but not owned by metaverse.---Can we consider Flawed logic and abusive use of simple tactics instead of actually debating.It doesn't matter if you agree with Kirk's opinions or not think about the flawed approaches and arguments that end up as fake wins for a ready made audience in any direction.Does Chuck sound like he's throwing i some towels while paper ones are too expensive.Things are tough all over and we are not making things better it seems. 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Ochelli Effect 10-1-2025 SNAFU NEWSFor the first day of October we look back at the last weekend in September.Weekend in Violence Overload Mode by the Artist Formerly Known as AmericaMinor defense of TRUMP from OCHELLI = He WAS NOT spending 1.4 million US$ per outing of Government funds Golfing this weekend While We The People live endure Grand Theft Auto 2025 in real American life.Did Trump Golf Today?https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/Sadly the alleged Opposition is so weak it appears to be a fixed fight  for MAGA. So pathetic and pointless, that a true independent might see them as The Enemy within. Wow Trump got a gaslighting nickname on the nose!Oh and who shuts down the government? Answer = The GovernmentSo while DEMS remain in a civil war with themselves, They are a great STRAWMAN to fall to The TRUMPETS.Have no fear thoughAmazon Prime Pays $40 Million For Melania Trump Documentary Raising Ethics Concerns With Bezos Seeking Contracts From Trump Administrationhttps://www.imdb.com/news/ni65079409/https://uinterview.com/news/amazon-prime-pays-40-million-for-melania-trump-documentary-raising-ethics-concerns-with-bezos-seeking-contracts-from-trump-administration/Conservationist Jane Goodall, renowned for chimpanzee research, dies at 91https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jane-goodall-dies-conservationist-age-91/---MICHIGAN MORMONS - MASS CASUALTIES - ARE YOU SURE YOU HATE PEOPLE EATING SOY BEANS?A Combat veteran with PTSD drove a boat to North Carolina shoreline and seems to have contributed to Operation Fear The Reaper by participating in a mass shooting.In Michigan A man who appears to NOT BE a typical Lefty in initial reports allegedly he drove a Pick-up Truck that was often previously pictured with very patriotic decorations intentionally crashed it into a Mormon Church before participating as a shooter in a mass casualty event that included gunfire and regular fire by arson. This event was on the same day the Leader of The LDS Church, Elder, and Profit also died at home from natural causes at 101 years of age. When looking at motive, police, media, and every simple minded easy-answer seeking internet anti-sleuth will likely not ask or seriously acknowledge that a death of a modern day profit in an unusual sect of Christianity may have been part of the motive. In a related Psy-Op POTUS TRUMP continues his simple answers campaign by declaring it yet another targeted attack on Christians in America on a nearly instant Anti-Social Media Post ETC.Follow-UpsMormon church shooting suspect had Trump sign outside home, records showGoogle Maps images show suspect who was shot dead by police had Trump sign outside his Michigan househttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/29/mormon-church-shooting-trump-signFrom 2019 TRUMP shirts about making Liberals Cry on social media to Trump yard signs captured by Google Earth Updates in 2025 The shooter Arsonist, Murderer, appears to NOT be a ANTIFA Easter Bunny Fan. Maybe DOGE took down too much at NSA for them to scrub his online footprint fast enough?One Christian attacks another? Perhaps like the NC issue over the weekend PTSD may have much more to do with it than Left wing MOBS.On September 29, 2025, news broke that Thomas Jacob Sanford, the suspect in a Michigan church shooting, had previously called Mormons "the Antichrist" to a local politician    Targeted politician: Kris Johns, a candidate for the Burton city council in Michigan, was campaigning door-to-door when he spoke with Sanford about a week before the shooting.    Johns reported that Sanford had "sharp views" on Mormons and described them as "the Antichrist." Johns said the conversation never devolved into overt threats    Suspect's background: During the conversation, Sanford, a former Marine, mentioned that he had previously lived in Utah, had a relationship with a woman who was LDSMichigan church shooting latest: Suspected gunman's father speaks out after ‘evil act of violence' leaves four victims deadhttps://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/michigan-church-shooting-thomas-sanford-marine-latest-updates-b2835573.htmlWant To keep Score at home? One stat of many = (From The Website) "The Mass Shooting Tracker is a crowd-sourced database of U.S. mass shootings. We define a “mass shooting” as a single outburst of violence in which four or more people are shot. This is not the same as mass murder as defined by the FBI"MASS SHOOTING TRACKER ONLINEhttps://massshootingtracker.site/AND the Neo-Moral Majority brought to you by Project 2025 has amended your pre-programed response. Thoughts, Then Blame The Left, Then PrayersIn addition to faux-virtue signaling of the previous era, Orange Jesus and his MAGA Disciples recommend you continue Not thinking independently and discourage thinking in general as something you should ever try at home. Also accept no responsibility for inspiring violence EVER.FBI arrest man who allegedly threatened to shoot people at Texas Pride paradeSuspect Joshua Cole allegedly used a Facebook account to threaten revenge for murder of Charlie Kirkhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/27/fbi-arrest-man-texas-pride-paradeORANGE IS THE NEW APPRENTICE - SEASON (Term) 2 - EPISODE 255Certainly farmers in what used to be America currently starting to realize Trump wasn't their friends because Soy Beans, better known as an essential Vitamin in Liberal ANTIFA Easter Bunny Island diets is going bust in real time and the ripple effect has reached their wallets. Stay tuned though RED/BLUE sports fans, it is a delayed reaction with more to come. Some TikTok farmers NOT focused on The TikTok Rapture trend the rest of us might have missed last week, are crying how mean and F U other TikToker Mockers mocking their suffering as an obvious outcome for TRUMP voters getting what they voted for and having buyers remorse. NEWLY MINTED media mogul Rich Guy Trump approved that now owns the American Share of the company via USA Patriot Protection Racket should be able to sort that out.The upcoming Season of Orange is The New Apprentice Unreal Reality Show Season or Term Two will also feature the agricultural domino exhibition as every grown commodity becomes simultaneously worthless in many international markets and retains unaffordable status for Americans who might seek out something to eat. SPOILER ALERT, Ochelli calls this the double crash of 26 to another year TO BE DETERMINED. WINNING!!!Is anyone Skiing with Tina Turner? Left or Right points to be made and they both use government shutdowns as leverage, Is anybody else seeing this shyte?Trump to attend congressional meeting as government shutdown loomshttps://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-to-attend-congressional-meeting-as-government-shutdown-looms-248545349615Well, That happened...Also That Fat Bear Week thing ended with Chunk winning with a broken Jaw.BiBi Sitters in MAGA land How DARE YOU SAY GENOCIDE!International Criminal CourtTrying individuals for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and aggressionhttps://www.icc-cpi.int/defendant/netanyahuFor years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our facesThe premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal fromhttps://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/Conservative multi-network madness with extra heavy FOX affiliates also made Fat Bear Week part of Last Weeks scripts so Mind Control isn't just for politics.Anybody else notice that a few AI generated Narrators are being over used?Trump just ordered his top generals to crush “the enemy within” – left-wing Americanshttps://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2025/10/01/trump-enemy-within/ Donald Trump Suggests US Cities Be ‘Training Grounds' for Militaryhttps://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-us-military-national-guard-cities-training-10804929ICE Beats More US Citizens, Can't Seem To Shake 'Gestapo' Label Somehowhttps://www.wonkette.com/p/ice-beats-more-us-citizens-cant-seem ICE Arrested a U.S. Citizen—Twice—During Alabama Construction Site Raids. Now He's Suing.https://reason.com/2025/10/01/ice-arrested-a-u-s-citizen-twice-during-alabama-construction-site-raids-now-hes-suing/Government shutdown 2025: A guide to what's still open, what's closed and what's fuzzyhttps://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/01/government-shutdown-2025-whats-still-open-00195598Ultimately, A message in a badly written JFK Universe of content tells us the point most miss no matter what they select to pursue Truth. Give Up, as it will make no difference in the end.The Umbrella Man (2018)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmNJuJzdVLUCredit to Jimmy James for sending me this failed propaganda message in a bottle-neck for much more than the a metaphor in the metadata corrupted by but not owned by metaverse.------BE THE EFFECTEmergency help for Ochelli and The NetworkMrs.OLUNA ROSA CANDLEShttp://www.paypal.me/Kimberlysonn12 new Social Media experimentsBLUESKYhttps://bsky.app/profile/ochelli.bsky.socialTRUTH SOCIALhttps://truthsocial.com/@Ochelli---Listen/Chat on the Sitehttps://ochelli.com/listen-live/TuneInhttp://tun.in/sfxkxAPPLEhttps://music.apple.com/us/station/ochelli-com/ra.1461174708WithBE THE EFFECTListen/Chat on the Sitehttps://ochelli.com/listen-live/TuneInhttp://tun.in/sfxkxAPPLEhttps://music.apple.com/us/station/ochelli-com/ra.1461174708Ochelli Link Treehttps://linktr.ee/chuckochelliAnything is a blessing if you have the meansWithout YOUR support we go silent.---NOVEMBER IN DALLAS LANCER CONFERENCEDISCOUNT FOR YOU10 % OFF code = Ochelli10https://assassinationconference.com/Coming SOON Room Discount Details The Fairmont Dallas hotel 1717 N Akard Street, Dallas, Texas 75201. easy access to Dealey Plaza

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Welcome back to Snafu with Robin Zander. In this episode, I'm talking with Bobby Podesta, longtime Pixar animator and storyteller. We dig into why storytelling and art matter, and why finding your own voice is more important than copying anyone else. Bobby opens up about his journey as an artist, the imposter syndrome he's faced, and how he learned to create art in a style that's truly his. We talk about how he turned a written novel into a graphic novel, translating dialogue and descriptions into illustrations along the way. He shares lessons from his college design teacher about noticing the art all around us—not just in museums or galleries. We also explore how design and storytelling balance function and emotion, in ways you might not even realize in everyday life. Bobby's story shows that creativity isn't about perfection – it's about showing up and being authentic. He gives a fresh perspective on how storytelling shapes the way we see the world and connect with others. This episode is full of insights for anyone who cares about art, design, and telling stories that matter. 00:00 Start 03:13 The Importance of Human Connection in Storytelling Bobby on storytelling Background: 30 years in film, always thinking about story structure. Drama is about “what you're both keeping back and what you're waiting to surprise your audience with.” Steve Jobs anecdote Jobs builds suspense with “one more thing.” On stage, he asks: “Has anyone ever wondered what this small pocket is for?” (the tiny jeans pocket). Instead of something expected like a coin, he pulls out “the world's smallest iPod and people flip out.” Why it works: audience knows the pocket's size → no need to explain iPod's dimensions. Structure: setup → familiar norm → question → twist → payoff. Bobby's takeaway: “That's really good storytelling, man. It's really good storytelling.” “People call him a salesperson. Like he's a great salesman. He's a great storyteller. If you can tell a good story, you're pulling people in. That's the key.” Robin on storytelling & AI His work is making commercials and mini-docs for startups. Says video itself doesn't matter as much as impact: “What I care about is changing human behavior and changing human emotion.” Believes the value of human storytelling is timeless: “The value of sitting at Homer's feet and listening to him recite the Iliad is never going to go away.” Bobby on storytelling & art Storytelling = fundamental way to convey and connect. Sees it like art: “Art is a way to express your opinion and how you process the world around you in a manner that hopefully other people can experience and relate to.” Calls art his “oldest friend, who I've probably treated the worst… neglected, starved, and then expect it to show up and perform.” Believes everyone can create: “Art is not a zero-sum game… art is ultimately subjective because art is an opinion about how you see the world.” Goal of art/storytelling: help others “find some relationship to the world around them through it.” 06:01 Art as a Form of Expression Robin's setup Grew up between an artist mother and entrepreneur father – “perfect intersection” of art + business. Distinguishes museum art (“old, on walls”) from art that's “around us all the time.” Points out modern communicators (Musk, Trump) as powerful storytellers/branders – even if you disagree with the content, “that is great art in the form of good communication.” Asks: why do we separate “high” art (Iliad, museums) from everyday, cultural storytelling (Pixar, branding)? Art is everywhere Bobby uses the car-buying analogy to explain awareness: “You're looking for a midsize pickup and suddenly you see them everywhere. They didn't just appear. You're just paying attention.” Art works the same way – once you start noticing, you realize it's all around you. Lesson from a design teacher: “If it wasn't dug up or grown, it's designed.” Everything man-made carries intention – and therefore, art. Pushes back on the museum-only view of art: “Saying art is only in museums is like saying there are only cars at dealerships. There are cars everywhere. There's art everywhere.” Examples of art woven into daily life: Clothing, headphones, glasses Desks, chairs, pottery, textiles Buildings, skylines, sidewalk prints Freeway dividers, lamps Even tools: “Go get a hammer. The handle's probably painted a color. It may be a penny's worth of art, but it's art, man.” Definition of art: “All these things are working with that balance between functionality and making you feel something.” Even branding choices – a color, a shape – are designed to evoke feeling. Perspective shift: Once you adjust your lens, “there's a lot of art out there. It's really, really amazing.” 12:04 The Relationship Between Artist and Art Bobby compares practice to a relationship: “It's like the people that love you the most, sometimes you treat the worst.” Practice is like a loyal friend or character always waiting: Wants to be fed, but often ignored. Always ready to show up again. “It's like that little character that shows up and is always there to help you out.” Robin asks if practice is a character on his shoulder. Bobby: “It probably is… but I love it. If there's a napkin, I'll doodle.” Art as a shared childhood language: Everyone starts out drawing: “Have you ever met an adult who didn't draw as a kid? Everyone says yes.” Drawing is how children interpret the world. Family encouragement made “the artist” part of his identity. Becoming a writer: Took a UC Berkeley Extension class called “Finishing the Novel.” Professor's advice: “You're all taking classes. None of you are professionals. Go form a writers' group.” Writers' group provided accountability → led to a first draft. Draft → literary agent → graphic novel → published book. “Flash forward all these years later and I have a book that comes out… I guess I'm an author.” Lessons on growth and identity: Identity comes from practice and persistence, not instant recognition. Progress isn't linear: “The road is not a straight line.” Common trap: believing “I should have been there already.” Bobby reframes time: “You can often have what you want, or you can have something when you want it. But you can rarely have what you want when you want it.” Letting go of rigid timelines gives a better chance of arriving. 18:01 The Process of Creating a Graphic Novel Robin asks why this story, why now, and why as a debut novel. Bobby admits he had played with different story ideas before. Thought to himself: “If I only have one chance to do this, what story do I want to tell?” Origin spark: a daydream while driving. “What if an animal just jumped out in front of me?” What if it leapt into the air and flew away? “What if that animal was a reindeer?” Question: what would a reindeer be doing here? That “what if” became the seed of the story. Bobby folded parts of himself into the idea. Loves holiday stories and movies → wanted to write one. Describes storytelling as crafting from a “pantry of experiences.” Not autobiography or documentary, but infused with pieces of his life. Details of the novel: Protagonist is an 11-year-old girl in 1955 Colorado. Bobby: “I was neither alive in 1955, nor have I ever been an 11-year-old girl, nor have I found a flying reindeer — spoiler alert.” Still, fragments of his own experiences and emotions shape the narrative. Goal as an author: To blend reality with imagination. To create something unique, fresh, and able to stand on its own. 20:58 Visual Storytelling vs. Written Storytelling Robin asks about storytelling: what's similar between Steve Jobs' two-minute iPod reveal and a 350-page graphic novel? Bobby: scale is different, but fundamentals are the same. Both are about introducing an idea, building drama, and pulling the audience in. Events and books both follow arcs: setup → build → climax → resolution. “He doesn't start the event with that, he ends the event with that. That's the climax.” Storytelling has shape across mediums: Characters introduced → audience grows to care → surprises and turns → payoffs. Example: Steve Jobs' coin pocket reveal → set up, then payoff. In a book, the payoff may come 100 pages later instead of 30 seconds. Analogy: whether you play 30 seconds of a song or an hour-long concert, you're still using the same fundamentals of music. Robin shifts to Bobby's background as a visual storyteller. As an animator of 30 years, Bobby is comfortable with visual stories, while Robin is more comfortable with written ones. Robin compares Bobby's graphic novel to The Bone Compendium (which he revisits often) and contrasts with Heinlein novels he might attempt. Robin: making comics doesn't have to be like “my mother's artwork she slaved over for years.” It can be like newspaper comics compiled into story. Asks Bobby for advice on where to begin if he wanted to try sketching a visual story. Bobby's advice: Many people don't think visual storytelling is possible for them. Shares personal story: On his first post-college date with his wife (now 25 years married), he said he wanted to write a book. It took him 25 years to actually write one. Never thought of doing a graphic novel because his drawing style didn't look like Marvel or X-Men. Even as a professional artist, felt imposter syndrome Realization: it's not about imitating Spider-Man — it's about drawing in your own style. Art is your opinion expressed visually. Stick figures can work if they serve the story. Doesn't have to be polished airbrushed paintings. How his graphic novel came about: Originally wrote the story as a regular novel. Sent to publishers with just a few illustrations. All said no — except one, who said: “I love the illustrations. Would you consider making this a graphic novel?” Bobby: “All right.” Treated it as an invitation. Decided to draw in his own style. Practical process: Took all the dialogue he had already written. Turned descriptions into drawings. Book was already written in close third person, without inner thoughts → made translation easier. First pass: dialogue in speech bubbles, description drawn. Realized: “I guess this works.” Takeaway: You don't have to start by drawing an entire book from scratch. You can begin with writing, then translate description into visuals.   28:10 Resilience in the Face of Rejection Robin points out the sheer amount of work Bobby went through: writing a book, getting rejected repeatedly, reinventing it with illustrations, then turning it into a graphic novel only to be rejected again. Robin: “It's almost the literal definition of courage… getting back up and trying again.” Notes that outsiders might think: “30-year Pixar animator, easy for you.” But the reality was rejection after rejection. Asks: how do you come back? What is your relationship with practice that allows you to face no 50 times and keep going? Bobby on optimism and imagination: “I'm lucky that I happen to be what myself and other people probably call an optimistic person.” Describes himself as “an optimist with a vivid imagination” → always assuming, “Yeah, we'll figure this out.” Loves being middle-aged because experience gives perspective: you've seen enough to know you can recover. The arc of a career/life: Beginning stage: fearless. “I can do anything because I cannot die.” Willing to leap into anything: start a company, go broke, jump off a cliff → “We'll figure it out.” Middle stage: awareness of consequences. Relationships, responsibilities, failures and successes → “I don't know if I should do anything.” Weight of awareness can freeze you. Later stage: resilience. “I'm still here, I figured it out.” Confidence comes not from avoiding mistakes but from knowing: “I can recover from anything.” Personal examples: Bobby's two kids are both in college. He reflects on their application process: multiple schools, multiple options. His own experience was the opposite: Applied to only one school (CalArts). Barely got in. Supported by his single mother, who let him pursue art school. That early challenge taught him persistence and how to “figure it out.” The practice of persistence: Life and career filled with moments of trial and error. “That didn't work. Okay, maybe this. Well, that didn't work. Maybe this.” Sometimes progress feels like moving backwards before going forward again. Analogy: like a Roomba. Hits an obstacle → bounces, changes direction, keeps moving. “I don't know that equating myself to a robot vacuum is the best thing, but it eventually gets the whole job done.” 33:33 Storytelling Frameworks and Structures Bobby on classical story structure in his book: Book follows a traditional arc: opening, inciting incident (

More and more vape shops are popping up in Pittsburgh — there are nearly 30 in Downtown alone! — and city council is considering a bill that would put some restrictions on where they can open. Executive producer Mallory Falk and producer Sophia Lo explain the proposal. Plus, they talk about the Trump administration's threats to withhold billions of dollars in food stamp funding if PA doesn't turn over personal data, Gov. Josh Shapiro's remarks on political violence at a recent anti-hate summit in Pittsburgh, and how a permitting mishap with the team behind the (Emmy award-winning!) show "The Pitt" led to extra traffic Downtown. Notes and references from today's show: Pittsburgh lawmakers want to restrict where vape shops can open [KDKA] Vape shop regulations proposed in Pittsburgh City Council would keep stores away from schools [WESA] U.S. Census: One in five Pittsburgh residents live in poverty [P-G] Pittsburgh-area pay growth lags U.S. average [Axios Pittsburgh] ‘An extra burden': Southwestern Pa. braces for SNAP benefit losses [Next Gen Newsroom] Trump admin. threatens to withhold $460M in food-stamp funding if Pa. doesn't share personal data [WESA] 'Demand is at an all-time high:' 4 The Record speaks with leaders from Greater Pittsburgh Food Bank [WTAE] How To Fight Food Insecurity in Pittsburgh [City Cast Pittsburgh] Gov. Josh Shapiro, who survived arson attack, condemns political violence at anti-hate summit [Spotlight PA] 'The Pitt' filming permit mishap on Downtown Pittsburgh bridge backs up traffic [KDKA] Filming for ‘The Pitt' Is Expected Back in Pittsburgh This Week [Pittsburgh Magazine] Volunteer Actors Needed for Allegheny General Hospital [Instagram] PRT avoids service cuts, fare hikes with over $100 million in state funds [TribLive] Fall colors may be less vibrant in Pittsburgh this year [Axios Pittsburgh] Go Leaf Peeping on These 4 Fall Getaways Near Pittsburgh [City Cast Pittsburgh] Learn more about the sponsors of this September 19th episode: Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh Heinz History Center Fist Ascent City Theatre The Frick Become a member of City Cast Pittsburgh at membership.citycast.fm. Want more Pittsburgh news? Sign up for our daily morning Hey Pittsburgh newsletter. We're also on Instagram @CityCastPgh! Interested in advertising with City Cast? Find more info here.

Is the U.S. on the verge of legalizing "hack back" missions, turning private companies into sanctioned cyber warriors? Steve and Leo unpack Google's plan for a cyber disruption unit and why the lines between defense and digital retaliation are suddenly blurring. My experience with 'X' vs email. Google TIG blackmailed to fire two security researchers. 1.1.1.1 DNS TLS certificate mis-issued. Artists blackmailed with threats of training AI on their art. Firefox extended end-of-life for Windows 7 to next March. Is the renewal of cybersecurity info sharing coming soon. Should security analysis be censored due to vibe-coding. UK versus Apple may not be settled after all. Another very serious supply chain attack. Can the software supply-chain ever be trustworthy. Why did BYTE Magazine die. What happens if Google and others go on the attack Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1042-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT bigid.com/securitynow zscaler.com/security expressvpn.com/securitynow

Is the U.S. on the verge of legalizing "hack back" missions, turning private companies into sanctioned cyber warriors? Steve and Leo unpack Google's plan for a cyber disruption unit and why the lines between defense and digital retaliation are suddenly blurring. My experience with 'X' vs email. Google TIG blackmailed to fire two security researchers. 1.1.1.1 DNS TLS certificate mis-issued. Artists blackmailed with threats of training AI on their art. Firefox extended end-of-life for Windows 7 to next March. Is the renewal of cybersecurity info sharing coming soon. Should security analysis be censored due to vibe-coding. UK versus Apple may not be settled after all. Another very serious supply chain attack. Can the software supply-chain ever be trustworthy. Why did BYTE Magazine die. What happens if Google and others go on the attack Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1042-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT bigid.com/securitynow zscaler.com/security expressvpn.com/securitynow

Is the U.S. on the verge of legalizing "hack back" missions, turning private companies into sanctioned cyber warriors? Steve and Leo unpack Google's plan for a cyber disruption unit and why the lines between defense and digital retaliation are suddenly blurring. My experience with 'X' vs email. Google TIG blackmailed to fire two security researchers. 1.1.1.1 DNS TLS certificate mis-issued. Artists blackmailed with threats of training AI on their art. Firefox extended end-of-life for Windows 7 to next March. Is the renewal of cybersecurity info sharing coming soon. Should security analysis be censored due to vibe-coding. UK versus Apple may not be settled after all. Another very serious supply chain attack. Can the software supply-chain ever be trustworthy. Why did BYTE Magazine die. What happens if Google and others go on the attack Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1042-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT bigid.com/securitynow zscaler.com/security expressvpn.com/securitynow

Is the U.S. on the verge of legalizing "hack back" missions, turning private companies into sanctioned cyber warriors? Steve and Leo unpack Google's plan for a cyber disruption unit and why the lines between defense and digital retaliation are suddenly blurring. My experience with 'X' vs email. Google TIG blackmailed to fire two security researchers. 1.1.1.1 DNS TLS certificate mis-issued. Artists blackmailed with threats of training AI on their art. Firefox extended end-of-life for Windows 7 to next March. Is the renewal of cybersecurity info sharing coming soon. Should security analysis be censored due to vibe-coding. UK versus Apple may not be settled after all. Another very serious supply chain attack. Can the software supply-chain ever be trustworthy. Why did BYTE Magazine die. What happens if Google and others go on the attack Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1042-Notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: uscloud.com canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT bigid.com/securitynow zscaler.com/security expressvpn.com/securitynow

On today's episode of Lever Time, comedian and writer Ed Helms (The Daily Show, The Office) takes David Sirota on a wild journey through some of history's greatest screw-ups — from nuclear war near-misses to secret ice tunnels in Greenland to attempts to blow up the moon. Helms, who hosts the podcast SNAFU, explores the risks of putting our trust in leaders who could do things that put us on the brink of extinction. What do America's biggest blunders teach us about our lack of control, our resilience, and what the future holds?Click here to learn more about Ed Helm's book, SNAFU: The Definitive Guide to History's Greatest Screwups.Click here for a full transcript of the episode.To leave a tip for The Lever, click here. It helps us do this kind of independent journalism.

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