Podcast appearances and mentions of Garrett Morris

Blake Lively breaks her silence. How she's addressing her legal battle with Justin Baldoni. And, why she's getting major backlash for revealing a family tragedy. Then, Snoop Dogg sticks the landing. Plus, a day in the life of Justin Bieber. His shocking video hounded by paparazzi as wife Haley addresses fan concerns about his drug use. And, Billy Ray Cyrus reveals how his unlikely romance with Elizabeth Hurley began. Then, a “Golden Girls” reboot in the works? Tina Fey responds to the rumors. Plus, her new show with a surprisingly sexy Steve Carrell. And, “SNL” legend Garrett Morris joins “The Neighborhood”. Why his comedy cameo comes with three cast reunions. Then, how George Clooney's bringing back his baseball past. And, what you never knew about his big-league dreams that almost came true. Then, Matthew McConaughey's family night out. His rare red carpet appearance with his kids looking just like mom & dad. Plus, Michelle Pfeiffer's Hollywood legacy etched in cement. And, only ET is with Smokey Robinson. The legend reveals new music at age 85. And, what he really thinks about younger artists sampling his songs. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On April 19, 1980, legendary character actor Strother Martin hosted Saturday Night Live—and delivered a surprisingly strong performance. Best known for his unforgettable roles in films like Cool Hand Luke, True Grit, Slap Shot, The Wild Bunch, Up in Smoke, and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Martin brought his unique presence and versatility to Studio 8H for one memorable night. Nick looks back at this fascinating episode, featuring a clever Cool Hand Luke parody and a mix of strange, sharp, and hilarious sketches. Along the way, he shares behind-the-scenes stories about how some of the show's most unusual comedy came together. You'll hear standout moments from cast members Bill Murray, Gilda Radner, Harry Shearer, Garrett Morris, Paul Shaffer, and more—plus material that feels just as politically relevant today as it did in 1980. It's a fun, deep dive into a night when one of Hollywood's most underrated talents—often mistaken for Tennessee Williams—stepped into the world of live sketch comedy and left his mark. [Ep 119]

This episode's guest is actor, writer, voiceover artist, and unapologetic improv nerd, Roxana Ortega.Roxana is one of those rare artists whose vulnerability, honesty, and humor hit you all at once – and leave a lasting impression. If her voice sounds familiar, it might be because she's voiced everything from the passionate Frida Casagrande on The Casagrandes to characters in Call of Duty, Final Fantasy, and Monsters at Work. She's narrated Pulitzer Prize-winning novels, voiced countless animated characters, and is a master of voice matching (yes, she's dubbed for Penelope Cruz and Salma Hayek).In our conversation, Roxana takes us through the unexpected path that led her to acting – from growing up in an academic household where creativity wasn't considered a “real” career, to having a life-changing epiphany while teaching English in Spain. We talk about the internal battle between playing it safe and going after what you truly want—and what it really means to decide to be an artist.We go deep into the power of improv as both a performance tool and a life philosophy, how failure can be a gift, and why community-building and representation matter now more than ever. Roxana shares how she uses her voice – literally and figuratively – to make space for underrepresented stories, and how she's continued to evolve as a writer, performer, and director.Whether you're someone who thrives on stage or someone working up the courage to take the leap, Roxana's journey will remind you that embracing risk, staying curious, and being fiercely yourself is always worth it.Episode Chapters 00:00 – Welcome + Introduction02:00 – Names, Language, and Laughter04:00 – Academic Roots & Artistic Restlessness07:55 – The Epiphany in Spain13:49 – “I Decided to Be an Actor”16:00 – Improv, Joy, and Redefining Failure21:45 – Performing, Directing, and Creating Her Own Work32:00 – Representation, Identity, and Making Space40:00 – The Tapestry of Humanity49:30 – Amazing Race Nerd Out50:50 – Blissful Spinster & Making Art on Your Own Terms54:35 – Final Words of Wisdom55:14 – What's Next for Roxana58:00 – Wrap-Up & Thank YouRoxana's Bio:Roxana Ortega is an American actor, writer, and voiceover artist who is known for voicing the ever-emotional Frida Casagrande on Nickelodeon's Emmy award-winning and Imagen award-winning cartoon The Casagrandes, a spinoff of the acclaimed series The Loud House.On-camera, she recently starred opposite Danny Trejo, Reno Wilson, and a cast of legends including Garrett Morris, Barry Bostwick, and James Hong in the Universal feature Grand-Daddy Day Care. Other film credits include The Flight Before Christmas opposite Mayim Bialik, Miss Congeniality 2 opposite Sandra Bullock, and Larry Crowne opposite Tom Hanks. Her TV guest-star credits include New Girl, Shonda Rhimes' For The People, The League, Rules of Engagement, NCIS, and the Peabody award-winning satire American Vandal.Behind the mic, she has voiced countless characters in TV, films, trailers, commercials, and some of the biggest video game franchises around, including Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Final Fantasy, Halo, and Ghost Recon: Wildlands. A two-time AudioFile Earphones Award winner, she has narrated the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel A Visit from the Goon Squad, the National Book Award finalist Sabrina & Corina, and the New York Times's non-fiction best seller Random Family to name just a few. In addition, her mimicking skills have led her to voice-match the likes of Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, and Jennifer Tilly.Born in Los Angeles and raised in Fullerton, CA, Roxana is of mixed Peruvian and Mexican descent. She graduated from U.C. Berkeley Phi Beta Kappa with a degree in Interdisciplinary Studies, then spent a year teaching English in Madrid, Spain. It was there, while she was elaborately acting out English vocabulary to her students, that she realized she wanted to pursue a career in acting. She returned to the Bay Area and immersed herself in theatre and improvisation, then made her way to Los Angeles where she continued her improv and acting training and began writing and performing sketch comedy.Roxana is an alumna of the CBS Diversity Sketch Comedy Showcase, Upright Citizen's Brigade, and the Groundlings Sunday Company. She has written and produced her own shorts and performed storytelling all over Los Angeles, including at The Moth GrandSLAM.She is also the creator and co-host of the live storytelling show Minority Retorts, which spotlights stories from the under-represented, and The Risking Space, a podcast about art and risk. Connect with Roxana on: InstagramLearn more about Latina's Act Up on: InstagramCheck out The Groundlings on: Instagram Links & LoveIf your ears like what they're snacking on, follow, rate, and drop a review—it helps others find the show too.Want to support the show or get access to extra content—like behind-the-scenes journals, guest deep dives, and updates on getting Alone Girl made? Check out my Substack: The Blissful Spinster. Just $5/month supports this DIY labor of love and gets you a peek behind the scenes (when I find the time to write, lol). Find me and the pod on Instagram, Pinterest, and at blissfulspinster.com—where you can also find some pretty cool merch, if you're into that sort of thing. Thanks for being on this journey with me—and until next time, go find your happy.

We're back to The Early Years of SNL as we return to S4 with acclaimed actor Walter Matthau taking his best swing at hosting. While lacking an official musical guest, the show delivers an unexpected treat with cast member Garrett Morris performing opera at Matthau's special request. Though the episode falls somewhere in the middle range quality-wise, it does showcase several fan-favorite recurring sketches as we revisit the Olympia Café, listen to Woman to Woman, and witness the final appearance of The Bees - marking the end of an era for one of Saturday Night Live's first and most iconic recurring bits.---------------------------------Subscribe today!Follow us on social media: X (Twitter): NR4PTProjectBluesky: nr4ptproject.bsky.socialInstagram: nr4ptprojectFacebook: The Not Ready for Prime Time ProjectContact Us: Website: https://www.nr4project.comEmail: nr4ptproject@gmail.com

Over the weekend, the acclaimed sketch comedy show Saturday Night Live celebrated 50 years on the air! While the show is filmed at 30 Rockefeller plaza in Manhattan, it does have some interesting ties to New Orleans. Original cast member Garrett Morris is a born and raised New Orleanian, who made a special appearance at last weekend's reunion show. The Crescent City also claimed Vance Degeneres, the voice of claymation character Mr. Bill, and a more recent player, Punkie Johnson.But what many do not know is that Saturday Night Live once filmed an episode in New Orleans –  or at least, they tried to. Although cast members were scattered throughout the city, parade delays, technology failures and general Mardi Gras mayhem made for one of the most chaotic shows in SNL's history.David Cuthbert, is a longtime New Orleans reporter who covered the event for The Times Picayune back in 1977. He joins us to share his SNL memories.It's Thursday and that means it's time to catch up on the week in politics with The Times-Picayune/The Advocate's editorial director and columnist, Stephanie Grace. She joins us for the latest in the New Orleans mayor's race and the election for Orleans Parish Sheriff.___Today's episode of Louisiana Considered was hosted by Bob Pavlovich. Our managing producer is Alana Schreiber; our contributing producers are Matt Bloom and Adam Vos; we receive production and technical support from Garrett Pittman and our assistant producer, Aubry Procell.You can listen to Louisiana Considered Monday through Friday at noon  and 7 p.m. It's available on Spotify, Google Play, and wherever you get your podcasts. Louisiana Considered wants to hear from you! Please fill out our pitch line to let us know what kinds of story ideas you have for our show. And while you're at it, fill out our listener survey! We want to keep bringing you the kinds of conversations you'd like to listen to.Louisiana Considered is made possible with support from our listeners. Thank you!

Johnny Mac shares his initial reactions to the 50th anniversary of Saturday Night Live, which aired last night.He highlights key sketches, performances, and moments from the episode, including Steve Martin's monologue, Eddie Murphy's standout performances, and Adam Sandler's emotional musical tribute. Johnny also touches on the nostalgic and poignant tributes, like the 'Don't Look Back in Anger' short film and Paul McCartney's closing performance. Note the regular Monday episode went out earlier today and can be found below in the feed.00:43 Opening Sketches and Monologue01:22 Steve Martin and John Mulaney's Highlights03:26 Black Jeopardy and Eddie Murphy's Return04:37 Amy Poehler, Tina Fey, and Ryan Reynolds05:58 Weekend Update and Bill Murray's Rankings07:54 Adam Sandler's Emotional Tribute09:57 Tom Hanks' Speech and Mulaney's Musical Sketch11:28 Eddie Murphy's Scared Straight Sketch12:35 Garrett Morris and John Belushi's Short Film13:35 Paul McCartney's Performance and GoodbyesUnlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNITERRUPTED LISTENING. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed!  You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free!    This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com  John's free substack about the media:  Media Thoughts  is mcdpod.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynewsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.

Maryland's proposed tax overhaul aims to address a $3 billion budget deficit by increasing taxes on the wealthiest residents. Governor Wes Moore discusses the details of the state's new budget proposal, weighing spending cuts versus raising taxes and strategies to spur growth in the state. Then, "Saturday Night Live" celebrates its 50th anniversary with a special three-hour live broadcast. Former and current cast members including Alex Moffat, Garrett Morris, Taran Killam, Jay Pharoah, and Chloe Fineman crash the Squawk set to discuss the show's 50-year legacy. Plus, CNBC's Eamon Javers analyzes President Donald Trump's flurry of executive orders, and GameStop explores potential investments in bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Eamon Javers - 02:16Gov. Wes Moore - 18:09SNL Cast - 29:25 Eamon Javers, @EamonJaversSaturday Night Live Cast, @nbcsnlWes Moore, @GovWesMooreJoe Kernen, @JoeSquawkKelly Evans, @KellyCNBCZach Vallese, @zachvallese

This week, we go back fifty years to the iconic and chaotic Studio 8H at 30 Rockefeller Plaza with director Jason Reitman's Saturday Night. Join us for our Season 7 Premier!Check us out on...Twitter @TSMoviePodFacebook: Time SensitiveInstagram: @timesensitivepodcastGrab some Merch at TeePublicBig Heads Media 

611. Part 1 of our conversation with Carlis Wright Robinson about her father's, Johnny Wright's, baseball career. In response to racial segregation in Major League Baseball, African American players and officials formed their own league, called The Negro League. Despite not playing in Major League Baseball, Wright, like countless other African Americans in baseball at that time, by their mere presence and participation in baseball at that time in America, rejected racism and served as pioneers for future generations. Johnny Wright was one of the excellent players who remained in the Negro League. Wright's daughter, Carlis Wright Robinson, recently shared her father's story and history in her book, The Wright Side of History: The Life and Career of Johnny Wright, Co-Pioneer in Breaking Baseball's Color Barrier, as Told by His Daughter (In Due Season Publishing). Carlis recently spoke with us to discuss her work, her father's legacy, and what she would like for readers to take away when they read her book. Now available: Liberty in Louisiana: A Comedy. The oldest play about Louisiana, author James Workman wrote it as a celebration of the Louisiana Purchase. Now it is back in print for the first time in 220 years. Order your copy today! This week in Louisiana history. February 1, 1937 Birthday of famous comedian Garrett Morris who was an African-American comedian who was in the original cast of Saturday Night Live. This week in New Orleans history. Eleanor McMain High for Girls first welcomed student on February 1, 1932.  It was the only New Orleans public school named for a living person, but an exception had been made to honor Miss McMain who had done so much for so many through her work at Kingsley House in the Irish Channel.  Under McMain's guidance and leadership, Kingsley House had grown from a modest parish outreach program at 929 Tchoupitoulas of the Trinity Episcopal Church parish to an internationally known settlement house. This week in Louisiana. Twin Cities' Krewe de Riviere Mardi Gras Parade February 8 @ 5:00 PM to 6:00 PM Downtown Monroe and West Monroe, LA 71201| (318) 376-2501 Parade Route twincitieskdr@yahoo.com https://www.krewederiviere.com/ Admission: Free Postcards from Louisiana. I talk to Dr. Ellender on his book on trauma at the Louisiana Book Festival. Listen on Apple Podcasts. Listen on audible. Listen on Spotify. Listen on TuneIn. Listen on iHeartRadio. The Louisiana Anthology Home Page. Like us on Facebook. 

Saturday Night Live has been a staple for all of us. This year, the late-night institution is celebrating its 50th season, so we thought, why not honor SNL with a review of Jason Reitman's amazing comedy film SATURDAY NIGHT? The original cast of Gilda Radner, Laraine Newman, Jane Curtin, Garrett Morris, Dan Aykroyd, Chevy Chase, and John Belushi are played by near-no-name actors Ella Hunt, Emily Fairn, Kim Matula, Lamorne Morris, Dylan O'Brien, Cory Michael Smith, and Matt Wood, respectively. SATURDAY NIGHT received the top honor for Best Ensemble Cast by the Music City Film Critics' Association awards, and it's easy to see why.

Original SNL cast member Garrett Morris tells the real story of being the first Black performer on the sketch comedy show as the iconic program celebrates its 50th anniversary season.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/tavis-smiley--6286410/support.

In today's episode, Johnny Mac provides the latest updates in the world of comedy. He discusses Garrett Morris's critical views on the current season of 'Saturday Night Live,' shares late-night jokes from Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers, and highlights upcoming comedy specials from Bill Maher and Zorna Garg. The episode also covers the return of the 'History Hyenas' podcast and Ricky Lindholm's new comedy album. Johnny wraps up with highlights from the New York Comedy Festival and a discussion on the changes in the stand-up comedy landscape.00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:13 Garrett Morris Critiques SNL01:21 Late Night Jokes and Commentary02:02 Upcoming Comedy Specials02:37 Hularious Comedy Lineup03:15 History Hyenas Podcast Returns04:35 Riko Lindholm's New Comedy Album05:25 Comedy Festivals and Shows07:16  Caroline Hirsch's thoughts on state of comedyUnlock an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media! Get all our shows on any player you love, hassle free! For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app. For Spotify or other players, visit caloroga.com/plus. No plug-ins needed!  You also get 20+ other shows on the network ad-free!    This podcast supports Podcasting 2.0 if you'd like to support the show via value for value and stream some sats! Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com  John's free substack about the media:  Media Thoughts You can also support the show at www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynewsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news--4522158/support.

Fresh off his surprise Emmy Award win for Season 5 of ‘Fargo,' actor and comedian Lamorne Morris joins this week's episode of The Last Laugh to break down his scene-stealing performance as the “elder statesman” of the original SNL cast in Jason Reitman's new film ‘Saturday Night.' Morris, who portrays Garrett Morris (no relation) in the movie, discusses what it was like to enter the fictionalized world of SNL more than a decade after he auditioned for the show (and didn't get it). He also reveals how his ‘New Girl' character Winston's “kind eyes” helped land him his Emmy-winning role on ‘Fargo,' tells the full story about how he almost missed out on the sitcom that has defined his career to date, and explains his running joke with ‘New Girl' cast mate Jake Johnson about a potential reunion. Follow Lamorne Morris on Twitter @lamornemorris and Instagram @lamorne Follow Matt Wilstein on Threads @mattwilsteinFollow The Last Laugh on Instagram @lastlaughpod and Threads @lastlaughpodHighlights from this episode and others at The Daily Beast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week Joe, Shari, and jD pore over this week's SNL Hall of Fame episode and proclaim a Hall of Fame and Hall of Shame moment on the week's current episode of SNL. Transcript:Track 4:[0:02] Hi, I'm Thomas Senna, co-host of the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. And I'm Deremy Dove, co-host of the Bigger Than The Game podcast. Deremy and I have joined forces to create a new podcast called Pop Culture 5 to ask the question, what are the five essential things about any given pop culture topic? It could be five essential movies by an actor of our choice. Or five essential songs by a musician of our choice. We're not making a list of our personal favorites, it's the essentials. And we better do a good job of justifying our essentials because one of us will have veto power each episode. And I'm ready to tell Thomas why he's wrong. All right, Dermy. All right. Well, actually, why don't we give everyone an out-of-context peek at what we've been up to? So Pharrell was right next to me, and we looked at each other, and we were kind of like bobbing our heads. He wasn't wearing his hat. Nobody really knew he was kind of wearing. He was kind of incognito. But I had to do a double take. I'm like, that's Pharrell. and then he looked at me you just slipped that in there this big name drop here i was next to my man pharrell like whoa i never heard this everyone so join us to celebrate and discuss the essentials of pop culture listen and subscribe to pop culture 5 wherever you get your podcasts.Track 4:[1:30] Hey, it's time to gather around the water cooler to talk the SNL Hall of Fame.Track 1:[1:40] Hey, it's JD here, and I want to welcome you back to the SNL Hall of Fame water cooler. I am inside the building walking down to the lunchroom right now where we keep the water cooler to meet Shari and Joe. They are there to talk about this week's episode of the SNL Hall of Fame. As well as breaking down the path that this person will have to the Hall of Fame and ranking them as well. And then we will go through the Hall of Fame and Hall of Shame of this week's Saturday Night Live episode. It is the premiere of the 50th season. I am now in the room. I can see Joe and Shari. Shari, how are you doing?Track 2:[2:23] I'm doing excellent. Got my water bottle all filled up from the water cooler and I'm ready to chat.Track 1:[2:29] I am parched. Joe, how about you?Track 3:[2:33] I'm doing good. I am really, really excited about this particular individual that we will be discussing today.Track 1:[2:42] Yeah, it's Bob Odenkirk. Nicole Brady was featured on this episode. She was also in season four with Anna Gassire, nominating Anna Gassire. This time, it's Bob Odenkirk in the writing category. So, Shari, do you want to recap Monday's Hall of Fame episode?Track 2:[3:01] Absolutely. Well, you gave a nice little lead in, J.D. You are the best at that. Getting me prepped. So thank you. Yes, it was Thomas and Nicole. And I had forgotten who she nominated. One of my favorite, Anna Gasteyer. So hopefully Anna gets in, I hope. Yeah. And Nicole did a great job this time, just like she did that time. And Thomas, of course, the consummate conversationalist. They chatted 100 percent. They chatted quite thoroughly about Mr. Odenkirk's career. They started off with some background in the fact that they shot Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. And I didn't want to either. So sorry. But apparently they were shot in New Mexico. I didn't know that. Beth. And I guess Bob was very close with the improv community and would like just show up at things. I thought that was super cool.Track 1:[3:58] Wow.Track 2:[3:59] Thomas and Nicole both said they had never gotten a chance to catch him, but they did compliment him for having such a great relationship with the New Mexican community. So I thought that was pretty cool. And then they broke it down from the beginning to the end. Of course, they started with Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad and How We Know Bob Odenkirk Now. And then they went back in the backward time machine to when he was a young 25-year-old, just starting out. And his time at SNL, of course, they talked quite in detail about his baby, as Thomas called it, the Matt Foley, the motivational speaker. They really did a nice breakdown of that. And several other sketches, some Tom Hanks sketches that he did that I wasn't aware of. And the fact that he worked on Superfans I knew, but I didn't know about Hans and Franz. So it was quite an enlightening discussion. Very detailed and very well researched on both Thomas and Nicole's part.Track 1:[5:02] Well, that's what we expect from those people at this point. And they always deliver. So it's really great. Great. Joe, what do you feel was the thrust of the argument that Nicole made in terms of nominating and advocating for Bob Odenkirk?Track 3:[5:22] What I pulled away from that episode, she didn't really say it specifically, but I just kind of connected the dots.Track 3:[5:31] Something I noticed was he's really, Bob Odenkirk is really good at bringing out a performer's voice.Track 3:[5:41] Now, there's one sketch in particular I'm sure we'll get to that really enhances a certain performer's talent. Talent but uh another one that i learned from from the episode was uh how much he helped dana cardi uh especially with grumpy old man hans and friends now with grumpy old man now if you listen to his podcast or watch the stand-up you see that he kind of riffs and what i've noticed is he finds an attitude puts a voice to it and then riffs jokes and what i imagine what bob odeker helped do was help mold it into a solid cohesive personality so i imagine he dana had most of grumpy old man there and i imagine orton kirk uh pitching some more jokes and give it maybe you know a theme for you know the week or you know for that current um editorial what have you right you know same for Hans and Franz kind of bringing out a performer's voice and you know finding out what's funny about them you know it's this not that oh and then the McLaughlin group that's another one where it seems like it's something Dana Carvey um you know probably came up with the idea well it with but uh.Track 3:[7:07] But like I mentioned in the episode, you got Michael Conan, who are like Harvard grads, who are really good at being with political stuff. And then Odenkirk, who I don't think he went to an Ivy League school.Track 1:[7:24] He did not, no.Track 3:[7:26] Still finding that voice, like what makes McLaughlin Group funny and contributing to that as he does.Track 1:[7:34] Yeah yeah you you put it well both of you i i i think odin kirk is certainly a deserving, member of the hall of fame if you thought if you look at saturday night live this is uh he's there for the second golden age.Track 2:[7:52] And you.Track 1:[7:54] Know that's not an accident i don't think.Track 2:[7:56] What do you think sorry oh absolutely not and you know they just did episode 13 of everything you need to know about saturday night live on yes the saturday night network which i feel like we sometimes are commercial for but you know the best is the best and they're awesome and they're awesome and that is the season where mr odin kirk showed up that's right and boy what a start of a season that was Because we were talking about it before we started recording. What an amazing season that was. And the writing, writing, writing. It's all about that writing. The cast was great. Don't get me wrong. But writing, writing, writing. Smigel, Odenkirk, O'Brien. I mean, that's like a murderer's role of writing talent. Just incredible.Track 3:[8:47] And then reacting to TV and movies. I just want to pass through Carcinio that is yes and then enhancing a performer's talent so you got Dana Carvey who does a great art or, great carson almost said the other guy and then uh but mentioning but you know making fun of the carson arsenio conflict at the time so good for you youngsters uh johnny carson has been was at the time this uh he was the host for the tonight show for decades and then he finally had competition in the 90s and then the sketch was the parody of that um you know and it's an excellent perfect.Track 3:[9:34] Note for note parody of what was going on yes but and then and then uh the last thing i want to get because again i just love bob hollycock so i'm sorry if i'm you know uh but then i was just going to go to the bears and uh he this was because uh this came out of the like all of the chicago sports teams or chicago's love for sports teams in the 90s you know it was like the bulls the bears like they were all dominating and uh the bears uh is like i i still know people like this with the you know that love dicka they have the bears you know shirts they watch you know every sunday and then the thing that i want to point out is in the sketch uh it the bears show or whatever is on uh wbbms and which is a cbs affiliate but that's the affiliate that shows the bears football so like that's how accurate the sketch is that the bears show would be on the same network as the bears football oh i love that like and that's a little attention for detail that comes out of um odenkirk because both me and him are from the chicago suburbs he's from um.Track 3:[10:57] Oh it's neighbor neighbor i used to hang out in naperville and uh you know i'm shout out to burbank but like i used to hang out in naperville and um so like yeah like i could it's almost like he's in it like a college senior that is like i got you kid like i know what you're talking about out and i'll put it on tv you know so he spoke my language uh shall we you can talk now sorry no.Track 2:[11:30] Joe that's awesome and i'm not very far from chicago it's funny i'm four hours from chicago and i'm four hours from toronto so i've like i'm right.Track 3:[11:39] There you go where.Track 2:[11:40] You used to be joe and where jayden currently is.Track 1:[11:43] So what you're saying is if we ever uh if we ever do a meet and great. We'll have to do it in Michigan.Track 2:[11:50] Yeah. I'm already planning a trip to Toronto, J.D.Track 1:[11:54] It's in the old noggin.Track 2:[11:57] But anyway, I was taking some notes because I know J.D. Always asks us about who the candidate or the nominee of the week compares to as far as people who are already in the hall. And this week usually I'm a little stumped. But this week it was easy.Track 3:[12:19] Absolutely.Track 2:[12:21] Because there's two in there, and they both have similar trajectories to Bob. I'd say he's closest to Conan. Because does anybody think of Conan's work on SNL when they think of Conan first thing?Track 1:[12:35] No, not really.Track 2:[12:36] They think of late night.Track 1:[12:38] I often wonder about the Conan getting in. I often wonder, you know, what were the circumstances about that?Track 2:[12:45] I wonder as well. I'm surprised that he got in as quickly as he did. I mean, three ballots is fairly quick.Track 1:[12:52] Yeah.Track 2:[12:53] Considering it took Molly and Maya five ballots.Track 1:[12:57] And Frank and the Davis as well. Five ballots.Track 2:[13:00] Five ballots. Yep. But I see Odenkirk in a similar vein to Conan because everybody knows him because of what he's doing now. And he's so huge now. So I think that's going to possibly.Track 1:[13:15] Hinder him?Track 2:[13:16] Slip him in in a couple. Oh, get him in. Okay. Yeah. I think it's going to get him in possibly in less ballots than Conan because people are obsessed with everybody calls Saul. and Breaking Bad, at least here. I don't know about where you're at, Jamie. Oh, for sure. I've never watched either. They're not my bag, but I've heard they're terrific. And, like, I'm a librarian, and, like, the librarians are obsessed with that. Like, they love Breaking Bad. They love Better Close Home. They're always picking on me because I haven't seen either. Same with Schitt's Creek, J.D., which I know is a Canadian product. I'm always hearing about that one, too. But it's like, everyone's like, why don't you watch it? Why don't you watch it? And I just, I don't have an interest, but I think that's going to put him in, again, it's that recency bias. He's in everybody's brain, just like Conan. You can't get away from Conan. He's everywhere.Track 1:[14:09] He is ubiquitous. Yeah, absolutely. That's a great comp. That's a great comp. And it took him three ballots to get in, like you said. So, you know, anything more than that for Odenkirk would, you'd have to say would be a bit of a disappointment. Yeah.Track 3:[14:26] Yeah.Track 2:[14:26] Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think he's, and I think his sketches, he's got more sketches that were reoccurring and like super fans was huge.Track 1:[14:35] Yeah.Track 2:[14:36] Hans and Franz. He had a hand in later on, but he still had a hand in grumpy old man was very, very popular. And of course we got to talk about.Track 3:[14:45] Here we go.Track 2:[14:47] Van down by the river. I mean, come on, come on. And that's his baby. He created that at second city. So I think that gives him, I think he's going to get in and possibly even on a first ballot, maybe second.Track 1:[15:02] Wow.Track 2:[15:03] We'll see.Track 1:[15:04] Shari going out on a limb.Track 2:[15:06] That's a hot take there. That's a hot take.Track 1:[15:11] Well, where do you guys, where do you guys rank them at this point? This will be interesting this week. I think whether or not anybody has shifted from last week. So we are looking at Beck Bennett versus Shari Ohtari. sorry sherry o terry.Track 3:[15:27] Jesus jay versus.Track 1:[15:28] Garrett moore versus adam driver versus you two versus charles barkley versus bob odenkirk where do they stack up this week gang joe.Track 3:[15:40] Okay so these discussions i've been thinking about them during the week and you know my rankings have been and changing um so uh i'll go from bottom to top okay uh there's seven people number seven you two they're a great band but i don't think they contributed a lot to sarian antlion's legacy so i mean they're great when they're on but you know sure charles barkley uh he's great but snl isn't his forte okay so uh so he's better than you two um above him is adam driver he's on his way to being like a tom hanks but he's not there yet so above him is sherry o'terry who's great but like shari my midwest accent uh pointed out she just came and went she came dominated and left and then didn't do anything since.Track 3:[16:40] Beck Bennett is above that. It's above her. He's a great universal performer. Above him is Bob Odenkirk because how much he contributed to other performers. So it's almost like he was there after he left. Like his legacy was there with Motivational Speaker and The Bears. And those characters were still there. Yeah, and then Bob Harcourt was like two shows later. He had the Ben Stiller show and then Mr. Show, and they were still doing Da Bears. And then above him is Garrett Morris, and that's because he's an original cast member, and it's the least he could get as being in the SNL Hall of Fame. If you listen to that episode, you'll see how he was shortchanged, and based on his talent, And the least that he deserves is being in the ethanol hall of fame. So that's my top seven.Track 1:[17:40] How are you, Shari?Track 2:[17:41] Okay. So I take a different angle from Joe. I leave my personal box and I go to the box of the voters. How are they going to vote? I get into their brains a little bit. And I think I'm going to start at the bottom too. And Joe and I line up there. You too. it's that curse of the musical act that we talk about all the time yeah i don't even think they're gonna if they crack 10 are able to stay till next season i'll be surprised charles barkley is going to be just above them and i think he'll make get onto the next ballot but not by much garrett i agree with joe he deserves to be in the hall of fame but memories are short and i just don't think I think people remember him. I do, but I don't know how many. And I know you two do, but I don't know how many others. Same with Sherry O'Terry.Track 1:[18:35] The casual voters.Track 2:[18:37] Yeah, casual voters. Same with Sherry O'Terry. I think she's just going to be right with Garrett because, again, she came and went, and I don't know how many remember her. I think Adam is going to be right here at number three. He's very recent. He's on fire. He does not seem to be leaving the zeitgeist. He's always got something going on and he may show up this season. Who knows? Now, here's where I shook things up a little bit. This episode shook me up a little bit. I banked back down to number two. I think he's going to be just under Bob because Bob did some major sketches and he's huge right now. Whereas Beck's, what is Beck doing? I'm not exactly sure. Taking a little breather maybe and that's fine.Track 1:[19:31] He just signed for a new TV show. Him and Kyle and someone else. Oh, A.D. Bryant. There's three of them joining a TV show that's going into its second season, and I forget the name of the TV show. If you are listening and you remember, send us an email, SNLHOFWC at gmail.com. We would love to hear from you.Track 2:[19:56] Yeah, let us know the name of that show, because I want to try and track it down if it's on any of my streaming services.Track 1:[20:02] Yeah.Track 2:[20:02] But, yeah, I'm giving Bob the top slot here because he's got those great sketches. I mean, come on. Wasn't Matt Foley the number one in the countdown? Again, the Saturday Night Network did a countdown of the characters. I feel like Matt Foley was right there. Or maybe it was catchphrases. Or maybe both. Because Van Down by the River was very high up. and he's that sketch is always in the mix it's really it's you can't talk about snl without talking about that sketch and that's from the mind of bob odenkirk.Track 1:[20:39] Okay we are going to move to a new segment now that we are in the thick of snl season 50 uh there are new episodes to discuss and the angle that we're going to take in the discussion of episodes is we are going to keep Keep it Hall of Fame focused. And we are going to take a look each week. We're going to get one hit from Joe and one hit from Shari on what they think their Hall of Fame moment was for the episode and their Hall of Shame moment for the episode. Will these moments that they identify as Hall of Fame moments, will they come back in the arguments to nominate these people in the future? We'll have to wait and see. Joe. Joe. We'll start with you. Do you want to start Hall of Shame or Hall of Fame, buddy?Track 3:[21:29] I'll start Hall of Fame.Track 1:[21:31] All right.Track 3:[21:31] Because I think it's on everyone's minds, especially if they watched it recently, is the cold open. And I think everyone was looking for Saturday Night Live's reaction to what was going on in the summer. And it scratched that itch perfectly. It addressed Kamala. It addressed Trump. they addressed the cats and dogs the assassination attempts um and then they had cameos it just hit every you know uh note i don't know what phrase yeah i started the phrase i didn't know how to end it but yeah the cold open it just uh it just you know got everyone it's the only thing got everyone caught up like this is yeah we and they addressed everything from the summer uh and then And, you know, you got all the pitch perfect, you know, impressions. You know, you got Maya Rudolph.Track 3:[22:26] And then also I want to mention I was so happy to see Jim Gaffigan for two reasons. One, he was perfect. And two, like he's someone that I should have put on my list that I wanted him to host. Because it's like he's been in the zeitgeist forever. He was in the Jerry Seinfeld Pop Tarts movie. He did Pale Force with Conan. in i recommend you look it up on youtube and he's just been and he's a great comedian that's been around forever and then to see him when he came out i was like happy to see him and i'm like oh yeah we gotta he's good at the impression he's great at that too and then you know and all that stuff um so yeah it was just you know one after another so uh shari oh.Track 2:[23:11] My hall of fame moment There were so many tonight. Oh, my God. So I know that the Lonely Island is already in. But freaking Andy Samberg. I'm sorry. I never swear. Andy Samberg. I did not love him when he was on the show. I did not love him. I did not appreciate him.Track 1:[23:33] Wow.Track 2:[23:34] And now that I listen to the Lonely Island podcast with Seth Meyers and I've watched Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Do you get that? JD, are you able to watch? Have you watched Brooklyn Nine-Nine at all?Track 1:[23:45] Absolutely.Track 2:[23:46] Didn't watch it till just recently. Loved it. And now here he is, not once, but twice. He is the man. He's so funny. Okay. I'm a Jewish girl. So I really appreciated his Hanukkah joke about the White House, getting the White House ready for Christmas. I still, I mean, it's so good to see Andy. I'm just happy he showed up. I don't think it's the last we're going to see of him. He was hilarious as Doug M. Off. I know he'll be back. He and Maya have amazing chemistry. This is a Hall of Famer. I think he should be in there by himself. As well as with the Lonely Island. Because he's, I didn't appreciate him. And now I'm like, homie is so funny. And I never thought of him as an impressionist. And he often says he's not. But he nails Dog Am. I just nailed it. So, so good. So he would be my Hall of Fame.Track 1:[24:52] That's something we need to consider, because if you look, we did that honor for John Mulaney. You know, he struck out as a host, but we have him on the ballot now as a writer. And, you know, Sandberg is in with the Lonely Island as writers. Yeah. They took to the third ballot to get in, which is mind-numbing for me. Absolutely mind-blowing. They should have been first ballot. They changed the show, for heaven's sake. But to have Andy go in on his own, you know, that's, that's fascinating. I like that. And, uh, you know, so stay tuned for the draft folks. Um, we'll be, we'll be doing the season seven draft in January and, uh, maybe you'll hear from Mr. Sandberg again. All right. I hate to do this, but let's go to the hall of shame. We'll stick with Shari. Shari, was there anything in this episode that you would, um, look at with your nose pinch?Track 2:[25:51] They either hit. with the weirdness or they miss with the weirdness and uh that housewives of was it yeah yeah i was expecting more here everybody tries so hard but nobody can save it it's sort of a sinking ship and they're throwing everything at the wall and nothing is sticking um it was a a bit of a disappointment but this was i don't want to spoil for anybody who hasn't seen the episode yet but this was a stellar stellar stellar evening so you know you're not going to hit with every set so that was a little bit of a mess for me.Track 1:[26:36] All right we're going to move to joe now uh and his hall of shame pick.Track 3:[26:42] So it's the same. It's Housewives. Again, I don't want to. Well, for one, let's just point out it's a 10 to 1. And what that means is it's the last sketch of the night. It's probably going to be the shortest. But what why it's a miss for me is the Jean Smart that I know from, I think, Frasier and whatnot. She's very good at being like condescending. And so when I saw the graphic for Real Housewives, I was like, oh, OK, perfect. This is a great premise for her to be condescending. And then instead, without spoiling it, it was about something else. So it was like, she's right there. You can use her as a condescending housewife. But the sketch wasn't about that. It was about something else. And I was like, oh, but they did use her condescending, um, talent in another sketch, uh, without spoiling it. So, uh, you know, so, but that's why it was a miss. It was like, you had, you know, the talent right there, but you use, you had, you had the premise be about something else.Track 1:[27:51] So very interesting. I think that's a nice point because they, when you saw the title card and you saw the, you know, you got a sense of the premise and then you saw the lady sitting around the table, it was an impeccable, you know, it was, it was the best of the best of, of the female cohort. Right. Pretty much. Right. You're expecting a big thing. And then, you know, again, if you haven't watched the episode yet, don't listen. Um, that that's probably the best bet. Uh, but, um, uh, it was, you know, it was more about Dismukes and this physical comedy. And, um, and it, the physical comedy just didn't hit. It just didn't hit the way I thought it might because Andrew Dismukes is so talented.Track 2:[28:43] So good.Track 1:[28:45] Okay. So that gives us our, our hall of fame and hall of shame picks for this week. We'll do that again next week. When we talk about Bill Kenney nominating Danny DeVito, uh, Danny DeVito in the host category has hosted four times, I believe once with his wife, Rhea Perlman. Um, Bill Kenney, of course has been all over this show since season one. Uh, he's been part of the round tables. He's been part of nominated discussions and we expect nothing but, uh, awesomeness from, from our friend Bill.Track 2:[29:20] I'm a giant Danny DeVito fan. Like, I obsess over Taxi, and he is so great in Taxi. And he's so great in everything. And he's got this, this is another show. We were talking about shows that Shari doesn't seem to get a hold of. Everybody loves this Sunny Philadelphia.Track 1:[29:39] It's always sunny in Philadelphia, yeah.Track 2:[29:41] Thank you.Track 1:[29:41] It's been on 20 years, and I haven't seen an episode.Track 2:[29:44] Oh, that makes me feel better, J.D.Track 1:[29:46] Yeah.Track 2:[29:47] Because I just, I tried. It's just not for me.Track 1:[29:50] Okay.Track 2:[29:50] Again i do love danny he's just so so funny yeah so this is this is gonna be a fun episode because and he was enormous in the 80s oh huge like a big actor in the 80s yeah um throw mama from the train ruthless people so movies outside of his tv work uh yeah he was all over the 80s.Track 3:[30:11] He is a a multi-generational talent where Taxi, movies, he was like, he was associated with Taxi, Twins, Matilda, Sunny in Philadelphia. So, trust me, whoever you are out there, Danny DeVito is associated with something that you like and we'll talk about his connections with Saturday Night Live and such.Track 1:[30:42] Absolutely. And we're going to do that next week right here on the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. On behalf of Joe and Shari, I want to wish you well and bid you adieu. We will see you next week. Until then, stay thirsty.Track 4:[31:02] Thanks for listening to the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. To connect with Joe and Shari, join our Facebook group at facebook.com slash group slash SNL HOF. To email the cast, write to SNL HOF WC at gmail.com. Please subscribe, share, rate, and review the show wherever you get your podcasts.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The 50th (!) anniversary of Saturday Night Live has spawned a "biopic" focused on the debut show and the original cast. A fond look back is certainly deserved for Garrett Morris who battled stereotypes (think Chico Escuela and "Beisbol has been bery-bery good to me") to become part of television history. A fine actor and singer, Garrett was initially hired as part of the writing staff, then added to the cast after Lorne Michaels saw his work in Cooley High. After SNL, Garrett didn't enjoy the starring movie and tv roles of some of his colleagues, but he carved out a fine career in supporting roles and he periodically makes live appearance telling jokes and showing off his vocal chops. Garrett is a member of the Television Academy Hall of Fame, but he will be forever in our minds shouting the headlines over Chevy Chase's shoulder in the bit "News for the Hearing Impaired." As always find extra clips below and thanks for sharing our shows! Want more Garrett Morris? Garrett didn't get too many solo sketches tossed his way at SNL so he made the most of them, including this bit on the White Guilt Relief Fund. https://youtu.be/JxAoPcZZatY?si=oVegkbGFXtu1-OwL When Steve Harvey welcomed Garrett to Celebrity Family Feud it was time for the master to toss a little playful crap at the student. https://youtu.be/g-H-09zdweY?si=DrihXb1pOJXFgduV Garrett remains a playful presence on screen and in the occasional live show -- telling jokes and singing. Here's a clip from the Catalina Jazz and Blues Club in 2017. https://youtu.be/f8fturBS6xM?si=mBDopchmLgv3zu-N

Joe, Shari, and jD gather around the water cooler to discuss this week's SNL Hall of Fame episode. What does this trio think of Adam Driver as a nominee?Transcript:Track 1:[1:40] Hey it's JD here and welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame water cooler. It's a pleasure to be here with you. I'm parched so let's head down to the water cooler area where I'm going to meet Joe and Shari. There they are. Joe how are you doing this week buddy?Track 3:[2:00] I'm good I'm good. Shari how are you?Track 2:[2:03] I'm doing great. I got my water bottle right here that I just filled up at the water cooler nice and cold well.Track 1:[2:09] Let's talk some snl hall of fame this week we had uh an excellent episode where ashley bauer came on to present her case for adam driver um shari do you want to take us through the episode sure.Track 2:[2:30] I would love to uh very happy to get to hear from ashley again. This was her second time, I believe. Her first time I wrote down, let me see. I, well, we'll skip that because it'll take me a while to find it.Track 1:[2:46] Kate McKinnon. Kate McKinnon.Track 2:[2:48] Thank you, J.D. Your memory, you and Joe's memory far surpasses mine. Yes, that's right. Kate McKinnon. And of course, Kate is very close to getting in. So we'll see how Ashley does with Adam. She took us, she and Thomas did an excellent job of taking us through some of Adam's best sketches. And there are too many to list. And he, of course, has been a host four times. Who knows, could be number five this season. I know they talked about it on the Saturday Night Network. The chances of him coming back possibly look pretty good. Other hosts have done back-to-back seasons. So we'll see how that goes. And Ashley made an excellent case. She and Thomas both reminded us that his serious acting chops really add to his comedic talent. It really makes him an even better comedian when he comes to something like SNL. So I think that's pretty much the rough run through right there.Track 1:[3:47] Nice. Joe, what do you have to say about the episode this week?Track 3:[3:51] I mean, I agree with Shari. I agree with the episode. Adam is an intense, dramatic actor. And if you look in SNL's history, I mean, I'm just kind of going off of, if you look at like, you know, because that also applies to other great hosts like Tom Hanks, John Goodman, Alec Baldwin. Baldwin so uh if to go back to what uh everyone else was saying could he host again John Goodman did Alec Baldwin did I mean all these other intense dramatic actors did who've also done great jobs so will he be back next year I mean more than most likely uh it you know depends on who else they want you know but if there is an open spot I could see them you know calling him in.Track 1:[4:39] I'd be all for that. I'm a big fan of Adam Driver as a host on SNL. Do you guys have a favorite moment or, you know, a moment that will be on his plaque, perhaps, if he were to be enshrined in the SNL Hall of Fame?Track 3:[4:56] I mean, I got one that I think everyone just goes to. To me, when I heard he was eligible, the first one, the first sketch that popped into mind was Undercover Boss.Track 2:[5:10] Me too.Track 1:[5:11] Right. Right. Of course.Track 2:[5:14] 100%.Track 3:[5:15] Because it does two things. It takes a role that he was known for at the time. So it's kind of like, well, why should this guy host? And it's like, well, we'll take his Star Wars character and apply it into the world or framework of Saturday Night Live. And then he just scores, scores and scores. He's like playing both the Kylo Ren character as well as like a Saturday Night Live character. So basically Kylo Ren in a Saturday Night Live context and to see, you know, the big heavy of the Star Wars universe as someone getting picked on that and then and have him be just as great as everyone else in the sketch. I mean, that's just like a great way to initially like to meet him, you know, because it was probably because I think they said in the other show that was the first sketch after the monologue on his first show. So it's like, yeah, you see the sketch and you're like, yes, okay, this guy, he belongs. Let's do this. And then he hosted four more times. And like, you're just constantly thinking of like, why should he host? You think of that? And then you're like, yeah, they even sequelized it, like they said.Track 1:[6:38] Yeah, I think, you know, one of the things that made that so successful as well was it is a bang on parody of Undercover Boss. I, a guilty pleasure, have spent a lot of time watching Undercover Boss and they really freaking nail the conceit and the delivery of the show. So I think that that enhances it as well. What do you think, Shari?Track 2:[7:05] I agree with what both of you J's have just thrown down. It is a remarkable parody. I am not as big a fan, JD, of Undercover Boss, but I know a lot of people who are. And I have watched it at least once or twice to kind of know what the conceit is and how it kind of moves along. And they do nail it. They absolutely nail it. And the thing I want to mention that you two hadn't, but that Thomas and Ashley both mentioned, is how well he plays with or plays off of or others play off of him. Because Bobby and Taryn and Leslie, just he works so well with all of them. And they're all coming into a universe that he already inhabits. And somehow it all works. I know Bobby is a huge Star Wars fan, so I love that he was able to get involved in that and become a part of the universe. I could tell he's having a ball. And they just all mesh so beautifully, and they tell such a great story.Track 3:[8:13] And to add to everyone's point everything comes together in the end where they're taking undercover boss putting it in the Star Wars universe and then Adam Driver the writing and the performance of Adam Driver giving, I forget who it is but giving him the card that says after a rain comes a rainbow sorry I killed your son And it's like every part of that sketch, like just in that one line, it's like the writing, the performance. I mean, everything is shown off in that brief five seconds.Track 1:[8:54] Did you just clap at us?Track 3:[8:57] Well, I mean, I didn't mean to, but I was trying to signify the moment. I mean, even though I'm doing a podcast, I talk with my hands. So if you can't, I know you can't see me, but I'm conducting my, this is how I am.Track 3:[9:14] But here's something else I just want to go off of, especially what Shari said. Said uh adam blends in with the cast when he hosts that was a big note i wrote when i was listening to the podcast and watching his sketches uh he can either be the center point the fall guy he could you know like in um the oil time tycoon and career day or i mean we'll get back to that But or he could be the straight man.Track 3:[9:49] Which is usually a thankless role in the sleepover sketch where he's the dad who's telling everyone about what happened to his house. You know, usually like I could see like if it was Kate McKinnon or like a female host, they would have the little girl saying, oh, man, that's weird. And then you would have someone else tear and kill him or someone being the dad saying what happened but to have adam do it in such a you know and to see like um him do that and sleep over and then you know be the same guy in oil tycoon that's range i just and then like the fact that he could do any role like any uh any you know that uh that calls for him in a sketch he could do it he could be big he could be subtle he could be you know whatever they need him to be he could be he's.Track 1:[10:44] Probably a dream to write for yeah.Track 3:[10:47] Because like he could do accents he could be angry he could be you know and then like in the kitten skit uh he could be playful and happy and so he just has that range that usually cast members have yeah.Track 2:[11:06] Agreed shari.Track 1:[11:08] Is there a sketch there's uh joe said undercover boss you said you weren't as down with that did you give us a sketch that you appreciate.Track 2:[11:17] Oh no i definitely agree with undercover boss that would have been my choice actually yeah totally uh both both the original and the sequel i just think because that's the character that everybody knows him as. I mean, he's Kylo Ren. He will be Kylo Ren for the rest of his career. And what I like about him is he's okay with that. He's not one of those actors, I'm looking at you, Harrison Ford, who like, I don't want to talk about Han Solo. Adam and...Track 2:[11:49] Adam embraces the fame that Kylo Ren brought him and has ran with that. And I really admire that about him. And he brings that to us now. I do too. Every character he gives 100%, just like he did with Kylo Ren. Just like he's, I know he's done a million roles. I can't even think of all of them. I believe I've seen most of his movies, but he's in so much. And he's fairly young, so he's got a robust career. Career so i see him being a john goodman or as steve martin i think he's going to come back, many many times in the future at least that's my opinion i think i'm right because i just see him being around for a long time because he's so versatile as far as another favorite sketch i have so many uh i agree with joe the one with pete davidson where he plays the crazy oil tycoon i just watched that yesterday yeah unbelievable and i had somehow missed the one he did with bowen where there's a couple expecting the or trying to have the baby rather the gay couple me.Track 1:[12:56] Too when i heard that in the in the podcast i was like wow i don't recall that.Track 2:[13:01] Somehow we have to watch on a sketch by sketch off of youtube now and somehow we missed it and i never I never went back and watched it. And I was so happy that Ashley and Thomas talked about it because I made sure to watch it this time. And again, Adam and Bowen, who would put them together, right? But they are completely believable as a couple. I just loved it.Track 3:[13:27] Again, another ensemble sketch where Adam blends in.Track 2:[13:32] Agreed.Track 1:[13:33] Yeah, it's funny. You know, from a comparison perspective, does he end up being a Goodman, Hanks, Baldwin, or does he end up being a Timberlake where, you know, he's works with one sort of generation. It'll be interesting to see in the years that move forward. If he doesn't show up this year, uh, you know, will the cast change dramatically after 50? I don't, I don't know. No, it could be interesting to see what 51 brings us in those terms. So, yeah.Track 3:[14:15] To go off of that, to answer your question, will he blend in with future casts? It's worth mentioning that he doesn't have a specific sketch that he does with a specific cast member. You know like how timberlake did um well you know you know bring it on down the rappingville or you know dick in a box so he's able to say like i'll come back and he doesn't have to do that sketch with that cast member and that cast member has to do a cameo like he could just show up and do whatever you know and then you know do a kit you know do something innocent do something intense You know, he's not tied down.Track 1:[15:01] Yeah, that's true.Track 2:[15:02] I want to add to what...Track 1:[15:04] Sorry, Sharon.Track 2:[15:05] I want to add to what... No problem. I want to add to what Joe was saying, because that was exactly how I was thinking. JT was very tied to Jimmy Fallon. He was very tied to the Lonely Island. And when they left, they were like his besties. When they left, I think he was no longer as interested. Whereas Adam doesn't have that. He's not tied to any one cast member, just like what Joe says. And I think his career is not stalling out. Sorry, JT, but he kind of disappeared for a while, which I get because he had young kids. He had young kids. I get it. But he walked away. I don't see Adam walking away. I don't know if he has young children as well, but I see him balancing things and I see him being a movie star and in possibly another streaming series. I don't think it's going to stop for him I think he's going to keep going Even if it's just one project a year If he slows down a little Kind of like Tom Hanks is doing right now in his career.Track 3:[16:07] I mean, it's worth mentioning that his character in Star Wars is done. Now, theoretically, it hasn't stopped Disney from...Track 1:[16:14] I'm joking. The movie's been years old.Track 3:[16:16] Your character, whatever, in the Star Wars universe, they'll still use it. But I'm just saying that the Star Wars sequel series has stopped, but Adam's career has kept going. And he's worked with many different directors. And I could see him doing something silly, like a silly comedy. Like he was in that Logan Lucky movie, but then he was also in, I think it was, uh, he was in a movie with Pacino. So, you know, he's able to just keep going. And if his career is going, then, you know, he has something to promote.Track 2:[16:52] Why can't he help?Track 3:[16:53] Yeah. Why can't, exactly.Track 1:[16:54] You know, is there anyone currently in the hall that is a comparison that is like a comparable? I know there's not really from a host perspective, I don't think. Is there any other role that you can see him following? Or let me ask it more simply. Is he a first ballot Hall of Famer?Track 2:[17:18] I don't think so. Right. Only because he's so current. And sometimes people have trouble with recency bias. But I think he's going to be like Will and Kate. hey, I think he's going to get like 63%, 64%. I think he's going to get really, really close. Because I think the recency bias is going to work for and against him, just like it did for Kate and Will.Track 1:[17:43] Yeah, I still think Kate was a, that's a travesty.Track 2:[17:47] She'll be in this year.Track 1:[17:48] She should have been first ballot. She should have been first ballot.Track 3:[17:51] Yeah.Track 1:[17:54] Okay, I would be remiss to lose this opportunity while we're around the water cooler to talk about my favorite sketch. And that is Del Taco. So I'm real curious what Shari and Joe, you think about the Del Taco sketch by Mooney and Bennett?Track 3:[18:16] I mean, I mean, that is something where the host could have been like a director and then you could have had three cast members doing that, the bulk of that sketch. But because Adam is so awesome at being a cast member, he's able to just blend in, you know, and have the same rhythm as the other two.Track 1:[18:39] And that's Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney, which it's, you know, if you're looking at cast members, you can't look much further than those two when it comes to keeping up. Because they are, you know, banana pants sketches, typically speaking.Track 2:[18:56] Yes. and.Track 3:[18:58] It's almost like they're bringing him into their world because they have that rhythm.Track 2:[19:03] They have.Track 3:[19:04] With each other and then it's like okay why don't we have the host come in and try and do what we do and then he's able to do it i mean almost to the point where you don't even know which one's speaking.Track 2:[19:15] Yeah to a degree and i almost i almost feel like this was a rare moment where kyle's almost like the straight man or the the uh one that they sort of play off of kyle's sort of the play-doh and they're you know beckon and adam are the ones who are like trying to mold him into this perfect yes taco yeah and it's so it's so great it's almost like a sandwich right yeah we got the bread on both ends and then here's poor little kyle in the middle and it's i thought you were talking.Track 1:[19:50] About tacos at first i was going to say you're going to create controversy.Track 2:[19:53] Here um but they they're they're just a not a trio again not a trio i would have put together in my head but worked so beautifully and then a little bit of is that cecily who plays the female, i think it um no um chloe is it one of the chloe chloe chloe chloe chloe Yeah, Chloe Feynman. She puts her little touch in there too. And it's just a really nice melange of talent kind of coming together from all different angles.Track 3:[20:28] Yes.Track 1:[20:30] Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I couldn't agree more. Uh, I, it's going to be interesting to watch. Uh, if he does get 60, it's going to be like, well, why the heck doesn't he get 66? But, uh, we shall see. Let's wrap things up here with the taking a look at the previous three nominees, Beck Bennett, Sherry O'Terry, Garrett Morse. If you were to rank the four in likelihood of getting in, in order, adding in this week we're adding in Adam Driver, what does that ranking look like in likelihood of getting in? Joe, we can start with you.Track 3:[21:13] I would say I would go Sherry first. Actually, no, I changed my mind. Garrett Morris first. Then Sherry. Then because I know this is going to sound bad then Beck and then Driver because I just feel like the other three have done more overall you know that being the case and I know Adams is the host that's right yeah.Track 1:[21:49] So, of course, he can't have done as much as a cast member. And that's why it's important to, you know, like, you wouldn't say a director at the Oscars, well, he didn't act well enough because he's a director. You know what I mean? Like, they're rewarding him for being the best director rather than being the best actor. So, you know, you're falling into the trap, Joe, is what I'm trying to say.Track 3:[22:13] I guess. And maybe it's also because he's recent. I mean, again, how about this? It's only because it's those three. I mean, if we were doing this earlier in the season or something, if I had to rank Adam Driver to Beck Bennett, then maybe I would do Driver over Beck. But it's just, I don't know. It's just, and I guess I'm ranking them in the order that they all appeared in, too. So maybe it's a subliminal thing. I mean, but it's just how I feel. I mean, I'm sorry, but.Track 1:[22:47] No, don't apologize. Shari, how about you?Track 2:[22:50] Okay, so I'm giving what I think is going to happen, not necessarily what I agree with. But I think it's going to be Adam first. I think he has the best likelihood of getting in because he was so recently on the show and he blew the roof off the place. His episode was really good, one of the best of the season. I think that back, because again, I think recency helps. And then Garrett and Sherry are going to be neck and neck, but I think it's going to be Garrett and then Sherry. And they're going to be very close.Track 1:[23:24] Yeah. I think you're right. Sherry, to me, has a similar path to Molly Shannon.Track 3:[23:30] I can see that.Track 1:[23:31] Whether or not she makes it, we shall see. But similar path in my eyes. And I believe Molly started in the 20s. So...Track 2:[23:41] I i don't even think sherry has the following that molly has and sherry hasn't been in the public eye molly's been on stuff and doing stuff molly hosted within.Track 1:[23:51] The last four years right.Track 2:[23:53] Yes and she and he's on that tv show with vanessa bayer that was yes not a huge hit but plenty of people watched it so she had some she had some things going on where sherry has stepped away from yeah the screen and i'm not blaming her from that no no no i'm just saying that people People have, we all know, we're super fans. So, yes, we have longer memories. But a lot of the voters are casual fans, I believe. And they're barely going to know who Sherry is, let alone Garrett. So it'll be interesting to see. But Garrett's been in Two Broke Girls and stuff, so that may help him.Track 3:[24:30] That's a good point.Track 1:[24:31] Yeah, it'll be interesting to watch. 50 is going to be very interesting.Track 2:[24:34] Yes, I can't wait.Track 1:[24:36] Looking forward to it. Well, I'm also looking forward to next week. And next week we are going to be talking with our friend Ryan McNeil, who typically comes on the show to talk about music, and he's making no exception this year. He will be on to nominate Ireland's own U2.Track 1:[24:58] We won't go further than that. Because we don't want to give away anything for next week's episode. But we'll be back next week talking about the episode that appears on Monday. And again, that is Ryan McNeil and, um, Thomas, Matt, and myself. We're going to have a great time. And then we're going to meet around the water cooler and talk some more on behalf of Joe and Shari. This is JD saying, stay thirsty.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

We're back with a new episode of the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. This week Joe, Shari, and jD discuss this weeks episode of the SNL Hall of Fame. Transcript: Track 1:[0:20] Hey, it's JD here, and welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. I am JD, and I'm thrilled to be here with you this week and every week. But I'm more excited to be hanging out with Joe and Shari because they've done such a great job the last few weeks. So, Joe, how are you doing today?Track 2:[0:42] I'm doing great. How are you doing?Track 1:[0:45] I'm actually pretty darn good. The sky is blue and there's clouds. I took the dogs to the beach today for a nice walk. So it's been a good time.Track 2:[0:57] Okay.Track 1:[0:58] Shari.Track 3:[1:00] Hello. How about you? I'm doing really well, thanks.Track 1:[1:05] Are you ready to talk about Saturday Night Live, guys?Track 3:[1:08] Absolutely. Absolutely.Track 2:[1:09] We got a great subject this week.Track 1:[1:11] We do have a good subject. We are talking all about Garrett Morris.Track 2:[1:17] Yes.Track 1:[1:19] Shari, do you want to start with a brief recap of the actual episode?Track 3:[1:26] Oh, certainly. It was a fun one. Thomas was joined by the fabulous Darren Patterson from the podcast SNL Nerds, which if you haven't listened to it out there in SNL podcast land, It is a fabulous podcast. They break down episodes of Saturday Night Live and in the summer and during the off times, they do movies and other topics. They just did a great interview with a crew member who does one of the film units. So really excited to have Darren. And Darren is a fountain of knowledge and he's bringing that knowledge to discuss Garrett. And making a lot of good points about Garrett's involvement in the show, how he was often a little bit taken for granted, but he was a very much an in the clutch player. And I think there makes a very good case. And Thomas backs him right up, adding that Garrett's also one of the very best singers of all of the cast.Track 2:[2:26] I learned that from the podcast.Track 3:[2:30] Yeah, I wasn't really aware of that either. Oh, he was a fantastic singer. I actually watched the episode that he was most known for where he sang a song. And he's incredible. I mean, he's an operatic Juilliard-trained singer. And you can hear it.Track 1:[2:50] Wow.Track 3:[2:51] So that's the episode. And it was a good one. And Darren made a lot of great points, as did Thomas, as always.Track 1:[2:58] Joe, what do you think of Garrett Morris as a whole? Do you think he's somebody who is...Track 2:[3:09] Now, anyone who's in that first five years, I feel deserves at least special consideration for being in the Hall of Fame. And especially since Garrett was in all five years of the first five. and the thing is uh you'll hear this a lot it was mentioned on the podcast and you'll hear it today he was very underused now i just want to also point out that he was in all five years, however dan akroyd john belushi they weren't they left uh before season five that's right but But they each got best of DVDs. And Garrett did not. So that just shows you how underused. And I feel like people, when you go out and vote, I really suggest that you give him a second look because I believe he really is talented and underappreciated.Track 3:[4:10] It's interesting to think of somebody being underappreciated and yet part of that pioneering first cast that's uh very interesting to me um especially.Track 1:[4:25] Because he stood out he stood out because the rest of the cast was very white and he was not and a lot of the jokes and and themes of his sketches were racially charged in like a in a great way.Track 3:[4:43] Yes yes agreed in an appropriate way yeah definitely i don't know that you could do it now there'd be too too much sensitivity i think, but um it was hard hitting at the time for sure i mean it was something worth addressing, yeah yeah the white guilt relief fund that i know they oh my god and i watched that a couple of times it's unfortunately edited way down and it's not that long to begin with but the part I saw was just it's a riot and that was really really edgy for 70 was it 77 yeah they weren't talking about that, They weren't talking about the book. It was a hot topic when Saturday Night Live started. Yes.Track 2:[5:28] So, I mean, that's just worth mentioning that he had to tackle a subject that was very taboo. And he had to do it pretty much, I don't want to say all by himself, I'm sorry to all the writers, but he was the only one to represent the show. There wasn't any other African-American cast members.Track 3:[5:44] It was just him.Track 2:[5:45] And he had to tackle a very hot-button issue.Track 1:[5:48] You i don't even know and this would be something if you know this send us an email uh snl hof watercooler at gmail.com and let us know if and if if shari or joe you know this like let me know but i don't know that there were any african-american uh or or any minorities, as part of the writing staff.Track 3:[6:16] I'm so positive there was not.Track 1:[6:20] So he would have been somebody looking for his own, he would have been somebody looking for his own voice, you know?Track 3:[6:26] And not only that, J.D., but he was also, as they brought up in the podcast, and it hasn't been brought up, anyone talking about Garrett on the show, he was many years older than all of them. And he was the only one who wasn't from a stand-up or an improv background.Track 2:[6:45] Excellent point.Track 3:[6:46] Which they also talked about, Darren and Thomas also talked about. He was a straight-up actor and musician. He'd come off the Belafonte Singers. And Lauren was interested in him because of his playwright experience, apparently. Which I didn't realize I learned that on the podcast. Because, you know, Thomas does his homework.Track 2:[7:08] Kevin, that background is unique for Saturday Night Live just in general. That's very unique. Usually you come from Second City, Groundlings, Stand Up, and I know it's very rare not to come from one of those.Track 3:[7:26] Yes.Track 1:[7:28] Yeah, it would be interesting to see a list of people that are, and I suspect it would be very short.Track 3:[7:34] Pie graph.Track 1:[7:35] Pie graph, yeah.Track 2:[7:37] I mean, it would be a very thin slice.Track 3:[7:39] Yeah, when I hear, because I listen to Fly on the Wall, which I'm sure a lot of our listeners do, And they talk a lot about how it was pretty divided between improv and stand-up, with the bulk being improv. I didn't even hear them discuss any that had, like, theater or serious acting background. They all came from one of the two comedy tracks. So that makes him very unique. If I were to guess.Track 2:[8:09] I would say that, like, Michael McKean or maybe Robert Downey Jr.Track 3:[8:14] True, true. you know like the whole season 11 cast it wouldn't be a long list yeah agreed, yeah I like that Thomas and Darren talking about how he.Track 1:[8:29] May be the best singer because.Track 3:[8:32] I you know like there's some strong singers that have been on the show like.Track 1:[8:35] I think of Chloe Trost right now.Track 3:[8:37] Yes but Garrett Broser why is John Lewis but I don't want to get off topic. But Garrett is a classically chained operatic singer.Track 1:[8:53] That's nuts.Track 3:[8:54] He went to freaking Juilliard. It's crazy. And like opera and comedy.Track 2:[9:00] Those can go together. I mean, if Bugs Bunny has taught me anything, it's that opera and comedy is funny. And they could have used that in multiple ways.Track 1:[9:15] Well, tell us.Track 3:[9:16] I mean, like, opera.Track 2:[9:18] They could have tackled news stories. They could have been a Weekend Update character is an opera man.Track 3:[9:24] I mean, right there. Yeah, Gers could have actually sang opera.Track 2:[9:28] Yeah, I mean, yeah, where you get an opera singer, you got M. Chandler, who did it ironically, you know? Or you could, I mean, look at, I mean, he could have just sang funny songs. I mean, look at Weird Al. I mean, that's a whole genre is.Track 3:[9:42] Like, a funny song.Track 2:[9:45] You have this classically trained singer, and that could have been a whole segment. It could have been his reoccurring character.Track 1:[9:54] Yeah, I agree.Track 2:[9:57] So basically, the whole theme of Garrett Morris or this episode is how underly appreciated he was.Track 3:[10:05] And yeah, if you listen to the other podcasts, they pretty much list the best of.Track 2:[10:10] If not, pretty much the best of everything that he did.Track 3:[10:15] And right there that should if you're gonna vote for him uh it should be off of those, and like even with the douchebag skit yeah or sketch sketch i got it right on my hand he only had one line in it and he delivered it on a bullseye yes so you have the whole grand finale uh sketch where you got all the cast members here we share bill murray everyone doing the last sketch of the last five years and only give Garrett Morse one line and I'll be damned if it's the most memorable line and not only that that's the one they always use in the clip shows of like all the anniversary shows yes I agree and that is the point that Darren and Thomas made even though he's not on screen as much and he doesn't have as many lines when he has a line or he has a bit, it is very memorable. Like we're talking about him now and that was, 50 years ago, almost. 50 years ago? Yeah, coming out. He was definitely memorable.Track 1:[11:22] Yeah.Track 2:[11:23] And then, also in that superhero sketch, he played Ant-Man. Didn't have that much lines, but was memorable enough for them to reference it in the Paul Rudd movie. So, you know, he had just a couple lines. It was like, oh, wait, yeah, that's right. Garrett Morris played him back in the 70s.Track 3:[11:46] He probably had three lines.Track 2:[11:48] And it was rememberable enough to be in a Marvel movie.Track 1:[11:53] That's hilarious.Track 2:[11:57] So, I mean, he's a scene stealer.Track 3:[11:59] Yeah, and his new president of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing, that's in every clip show they do. It's so, so funny. Again, you can't really find a lot of his most memorable stuff online. line, and I could only find one of those. I wish I'd been able to watch more. I was just saying I wish I'd been able to find more of those hard-of-hearing sketches, or bits on Weekend Update, because they were so funny, but I could only find one.Track 1:[12:31] You guys have Peacock, right?Track 3:[12:33] Absolutely.Track 1:[12:34] See, we don't have Peacock in Canada. So I don't have access to just dial back into a... I've got a whole bunch on my hard drive, like but there's a lot of them that are dud episodes.Track 3:[12:50] Okay. The character is so rememberable that they did it verbatim with Garrett Morris on Family Guy. Really? Yeah, they just, they had him come on and do that.Track 2:[13:03] Like, that's how rememberable that character or that sketch was.Track 1:[13:10] That's fascinating.Track 3:[13:12] Yeah, it's a classic.Track 1:[13:13] It really has permeated pop culture in a way that not every star or performer on the original cast did necessarily.Track 2:[13:28] Here's another way he was remembered. I just came up with this off the top of my head. Robert Smigel for the 25th anniversary show. He did a joke about how Lorne Michaels was making merchandise based on the show.Track 3:[13:41] He had the Dennis Miller talking doll he had conehead suppositories and then he also had I forget the character's name but very very good drink, Chico Azuela Chico Azuela very very good drink so again another character that wasn't used that much but was rememberable enough to be referenced in the 25th anniversary cartoon, wow Wow.Track 1:[14:12] I mean, Darren mentions him as an unsung hero.Track 3:[14:19] I agree. 100%.Track 1:[14:21] Right? Yeah.Track 3:[14:25] In the documentary, Saturday Night Live.Track 2:[14:29] The first five years, even Al Franken said that he saw Garrett in a sketch performing. And while Al Franken was on stage watching Garrett perform, Al Franken was having this realization like, oh my God, we should use this guy more. Just like year four, we just had this realization now?Track 3:[14:51] Are you joking?Track 2:[14:54] In the documentary. I mean, I remember it was Al Franken that said it. It was the show, I don't know which basketball player.Track 3:[15:01] But the sketch was the basketball player.Track 2:[15:06] The host, was sneaking around playing on a basketball team and Garrett Morris played his mom. And he was playing this mom character so well that Al Franken had a realization that, like, this guy is good. And I'm realizing this in year four?Track 1:[15:24] I'm telling you, a big part of it would have been that he would have been writing for himself.Track 3:[15:31] Right. There was nobody.Track 1:[15:32] And, sorry, Shari.Track 3:[15:34] No, you're absolutely right, JD. he was he was there on his own and they talk a lot about how important it is for cast members to find a writer who gets them yeah and garrett didn't have that there was nobody who exactly got him both because of his age because of his race obviously and because he was coming from a less comedic background and nobody could hook into that but imagine if they They could have hooked into that. Imagine if Franken had realized the things that could have happened. They could have done some really amazing things.Track 1:[16:12] I think so, too.Track 2:[16:13] Plus, it seemed like people paired up better or they didn't pair up with them. Like, obviously, Ackroyd and Belushi paired up. The girls kind of lumped together. And Ackroyd and Curtin did stuff on Weekend Update.Track 3:[16:31] And I, you know.Track 2:[16:33] It's worth pointing out that Garrett wasn't an update host.Track 3:[16:37] I think everyone else was, except for Belushi, but not him.Track 2:[16:45] He probably would have appeared out better if he was an update host with someone.Track 3:[16:51] I also find it interesting, speaking of Jane and Lorraine, I also find it interesting that Jane got in first ballot because I was looking at our current Hall of Fame, who's already in, and I thought it was interesting that the three that I feel get at the case made that they were underutilized are Jane, Lorraine, and Garrett.Track 1:[17:13] That's right.Track 3:[17:14] And Jane got in first ballot, which I was amazed because I voted for her, but she's not as well known for being on SNL as Belushi or Aykroyd or Murray. So I was happy to see her get in. I'm very sad that Lorraine's still not in. And I feel like, I fear that Garrett's going to have that same fate because people, as I said, have kind of short memories. and I really urge you to look at his stuff and vote for him if you truly believe he does but I really want to, urge people to vote for him and I want to campaign for him because he really was talented and even though he didn't have that much stuff the stuff that he did have is worthy of everyone else that's already in there, A hundred percent agree. And I also want to suggest something to you two and to anybody, any listener out there. I found his ceremony for getting his star on the Hall of Fame, the Hollywood Walk of Fame, rather.Track 3:[18:29] And it's very it's very basic like i love how bare bones it is they're in a little shelter because it was raining and they're just on the hollywood walk of fame having this ceremony it's not fancy there's not a lot of fancy camera work and garrett gives like a 20 minute speech about his career and it's fascinating stuff it's really fascinating i didn't know how much he had done And he talks a lot about his beginnings, how he was homeless for some time. So I really urge people to check that out to get a full picture of this gentleman's career, because it is really pretty amazing.Track 1:[19:10] The burden of voting is a lot. You know, you're sort of expected to have listened to the nomination episodes. episodes, and then now you're listening to Water Cooler, where we're going to remind you even more. And it's interesting. Shari, you mentioned Lorraine. She, last year was her first year on the ballot, and she got 38%. So using that as an over-under number, Where do you think Garrett will land voting-wise?Track 3:[19:48] I feel like Garrett's going to be right there with her, maybe right around 37%, 38%. It's going to be real close.Track 1:[19:58] So right around the same.Track 3:[19:59] I think so.Track 1:[20:00] How about you, Joe?Track 2:[20:02] Sadly, and this breaks my heart.Track 3:[20:05] And I hope I'm wrong, but he might be in the 20% because he's not recognizable as some of the other people and it's hard to research him and, he just doesn't have that much stuff out there and I don't want people thinking he should just get in just because he's in the first five years. I want him to get in because of the stuff that he did in the first five years.Track 2:[20:33] But if you're asking me what his percentage is, it's probably going to be low because he doesn't have that much stuff out there.Track 1:[20:40] Do you think it'll be lower than Lorraine then?Track 2:[20:43] It breaks my heart, but if I was to go above or below Lorraine, it breaks my heart, but I'm probably going to say below. It breaks my heart, though.Track 3:[20:55] I think he's a little above Lorraine because he's been in the public eye and people know him more where she's not been in a lot of things. And he's been around, so people know him. People watch Two Broke Girls. People rock some of his stuff. So I think he's going to at least be the same or a tiny bit higher.Track 1:[21:19] Well, I wonder how much influence the fact that it's the 50th anniversary this year and will be, whether or not they revisit previous things on the show. You know, there's going to be the 50th anniversary show. I suspect it's going to be with the movie. It's going to be more in people's minds. So I wonder if that'll have any impact on voting.Track 2:[21:47] That's a worthy point. And it probably will on some people.Track 3:[21:53] And hopefully it'll have an impact on Garrett.Track 1:[21:56] Yeah, that's what I mean, mainly.Track 2:[21:58] I agree. I'm agreeing with you, yeah.Track 3:[22:00] And I've heard the, I just read a Rolling Stone article just before I came on with you two, that they had seen it at the Telluride and it was a bit of a review. And they mentioned Lamorne Morris's, performance as garrett and it was one of the things they pointed out in the article so that that might give garrett a little push it's that performance is getting a lot of talk and uh that will put garrett back in people's consciousness which is a great okay yeah maybe he will be uh equal or above lorraine oh i could you're starting to sway me well i i wonder what What Lorraine will get in terms of a bump this year. Right.Track 2:[22:44] Like whether it's going to go down or up.Track 3:[22:47] I feel like I've been hearing more about Lamorne's portrayal than I've heard about. I can't even remember the actress who's doing Lorraine. Lamorne's been getting a lot of positive buzz. And I've heard he just nails it. Well, I've got a ticket to see it at the Toronto International Film Festival. Oh, so jealous. Alas.Track 1:[23:09] Yeah. So we'll definitely talk about it.Track 2:[23:11] I'll follow me and T.D. because he's going to take me.Track 3:[23:13] Right?Track 1:[23:14] If you can get up here, I'll take you. I got an extra ticket.Track 2:[23:19] Oh.Track 1:[23:20] Yeah.Track 2:[23:21] Well, Shuri's like in Michigan, so she's got a head start.Track 3:[23:25] That's true.Track 1:[23:26] I'll send my private jet over. I'll send the SNL Hall of Fame jet over.Track 3:[23:30] All right. I'll pack my bag.Track 1:[23:34] Okay. I want to know a little bit more about some of the other candidates that you guys have talked about this year. You've talked about Beck Bennett.Track 3:[23:46] Yeah.Track 1:[23:47] And you've talked about Sherry O'Terry.Track 3:[23:50] Yeah.Track 1:[23:52] Now we're discussing Garrett Morris. So if you had to rank those three, and I'm not saying if you had to, I'm going to say you have to. rank those three in terms of their likelihood to get in or get a substantial amount of the vote. And I could tell you, Oh, Beck Bennett wasn't on the ballot last year. Nevermind. So I can't tell you what he got last year, but, um.Track 3:[24:24] Yeah, I'm curious.Track 2:[24:26] I would say, if I were to go one, two, three, with one being highest, I would say it would go Shiri.Track 3:[24:35] Garrett, Beck.Track 2:[24:36] Shiri is recognizable for having multiple characters. Garrett is recognizable for being first five years, among other things. And then Beck Bennett is just newer. So he just hasn't been around as long as the other two.Track 1:[24:54] That's right yeah he's only been away from the show for a couple years too.Track 3:[24:58] I'm gonna disagree there i think back to the edge because of his recency look at how well kate did now brandon kate's in a class how did kate not get in oh yeah she's very close though i i i do think i do think her chances are good this year but sticking with back i think you're right I think he's got that recency. I think people really like him. I think people are realizing, just like with Bobby, who we're going to talk about in later watercolor episodes, people are realizing how essential these players were to the game now that they're away from it. Because I think we all took back Bobby, maybe not all, but I certainly didn't think about them. But now that I'm watching more and more of their sketches and what a pivotal role they played during their seasons. I think they're both going to do quite well, and I do think it's because they're more recent, and again, people have short memories. So I think it's going to be back, Sherry, and I think Garrett is going to be, unfortunately.Track 2:[26:07] I like that reasoning.Track 1:[26:09] I don't agree with it.Track 3:[26:10] But I like it.Track 1:[26:10] You've made mention, Sherry, as well, that you're worried that he doesn't even get the 10%.Track 3:[26:17] Yeah, I am kind of, I am worried. I did, I think I mentioned that with Sherry and Garrett too. I just, people have such short memories and Sherry was a long time ago too, but I'm hoping that with the 50th and people re-watching things, like I said, she wasn't on the 40th anniversary. She hasn't been around as much. That's not been back yet, Yeah, but I feel like he's going to be back.Track 1:[26:48] I think you're right.Track 3:[26:49] I feel like he and Kyle are going to sneak their way in, if not in cameos, in some way. And yeah, I don't think she's interested in coming back. I think she's kind of moved on with her life, which is totally her prerogative. But I think that's going to be a big decision.Track 2:[27:12] Because I like that point that you made, is that she kind of just came and went.Track 3:[27:16] Kind of like Jim Brewer.Track 2:[27:17] Who just came by, did her term, and moved on and never looked back.Track 3:[27:23] Yeah, agreed.Track 1:[27:24] Well, Jim Brewer, a little bit different. Like, I mean.Track 2:[27:27] Yeah, yeah.Track 1:[27:28] No, no, no, no.Track 2:[27:28] I know, I know.Track 1:[27:30] I don't think people look back as fondly.Track 2:[27:32] Just, you want to pick someone from that generation.Track 1:[27:35] Right. Well, I think a good comp for back might be Will Forte, who was on the list last year, and he ended up with like 63% or something like that. Will did very well. Sorry?Track 3:[27:52] Will did very well. I was surprised how well he did because he is such a controversial. People seem to love or totally not love him.Track 1:[28:01] Yes.Track 3:[28:02] How is that going to seem how well he did?Track 1:[28:06] Yeah, I'm very curious.Track 2:[28:08] Falcon, Aaron, and McGruder are very specific, either are on board or not.Track 1:[28:12] Well, I think he gets in this year because he was only three points away.Track 3:[28:16] Oh, I agree. And I feel like Beck's going to get like 60, 63% this year. Very similar to Will.Track 1:[28:24] You know, I would have been somebody who years ago would have consciously not voted for Beck Bennett. it. But man, did he ever win me over? By the time he left, I remember his last sketch was, he did Vin Diesel. It was the 10 to 1 sketch. And he just nailed it. And it's Vin Diesel.Track 2:[28:52] Just for trivia, do you know someone else that did Vin Diesel? I don't. Richie O'Shans.Track 1:[28:59] Really?Track 2:[29:00] David Spade hosted.Track 1:[29:02] Ah indeed I.Track 2:[29:06] Just wanted to point out because there's two totally different performers, that's why it's a cut in my head.Track 1:[29:15] So that's how you have them so that's how you have them ranked we'll revisit this next week and see once we add a fourth layer, where they fit in and you know we'll sort of revisit this as the season goes on like we do with your ballots I'm very curious. You guys talked about your ballots in the first episode. I'm curious, by the time we get to maybe the fifth episode, we'll revisit it and see if anything has changed.Track 2:[29:42] Okay.Track 1:[29:43] Like, Joe, you only used 10 votes, so you've got some room, if you wanted.Track 2:[29:51] I went first in the DECA system, but I'll look at it again.Track 1:[29:56] Yeah, well, Well, Shari had used all 15, and I believe she said she had two that were on the cusp.Track 3:[30:04] Yes, and Garrett was one of those two, and I really want to put him on my ballot. So many of the ones on my ballot are ones that don't have much time left, and I don't want them to fall off. I know.Track 1:[30:21] We lost a lot last year.Track 3:[30:23] We did, and I have several that are going to go this year because it's their fifth time on the ballot. So I hope they all get in, but I'm not really too hopeful, but who knows?Track 1:[30:40] Well, I think one of the things we changed the way the ballot looked last year, and we included little factoids, like last chance, that sort of thing. And I think that helped people realize. I do think that helped. Yeah, I think so.Track 3:[30:58] I'm so happy Maya and Molly got in, because that would have been it for them.Track 1:[31:02] They were done, right?Track 3:[31:04] Yeah, which would have been a travesty. So I'm very glad.Track 1:[31:08] This year, we've got Jack Handy, Dave Grohl, Paul Lappel, Candice Bergen, Paul Rudd that could fall off the ballot.Track 3:[31:21] Voters, we're urging you. Don't let this happen.Track 1:[31:27] Candice Bergen, 35%.Track 3:[31:31] The original first female five-timer. Yes. And she still shows up in cameos And I guarantee you she'll be at the 50th anniversary She's such a huge friend of the show She's royalty, Even though she hasn't done any TV shows or movies recently She still shows up And does her time I wouldn't be surprised if she showed up on Only Murders But as far as Saturday Night Live goes She shows up to Acknowledge her place In the Five Timers Club Yeah, so yeah she absolutely does belong in the whole thing I really think, I'm a big pusher of Jack Handy and Paula Pell as well so I hope that people remember this and I'm glad you're adding it to the ballot JD to remind people that they're not on forever that's right.Track 1:[32:31] Paul Rudd looks rough. He's got 17%. I don't know that that looks good for him at all. Or no, sorry, he had 12% last year.Track 3:[32:39] Yeah.Track 1:[32:40] So he went from 23 in his first year, and he's dropped. He went from 23 to 17 to 18 to 12. So I don't feel good about him. Candice Bergen fell from 41 to 35. Whereas Paula Powell went from 29 to 41. so there's good news for her.Track 3:[33:03] I'm hoping she gets her name out there more often and gets recognized for her connections Paula? Yeah because I'm not sure how the great majority of people, know what she contributed to the show She's been showing up She was very important Yeah and she's been showing up a lot lately She was in a couple of episodes She was in Kristen Wiig's Five Timers sketch.Track 2:[33:33] Oh, that's right. She had a great joke where she goes, I wrote here for five years, but right now, Kristen Wiig's... I'm going to play an audience member, and Kristen Wiig's going to pretend not to know me.Track 3:[33:44] She was also in at least one sketch in the Kate McKinnon. I feel like she was in that singing...Track 2:[33:54] Yeah, I could see that.Track 3:[33:56] I just can't remember the name of it, but they did a big song pre-date and I believe Paula was in it too Tampon Farm Tampon Farm Tampon Farm.Track 1:[34:07] Oh right Oh there you go The Kate with the guitar, Yeah.Track 2:[34:13] Yeah, she, and I mean, again, she helped with the cheerleaders. So if you're going to vote for Sherry.Track 3:[34:18] Vote for Paula.Track 2:[34:20] She helped with the cheerleaders.Track 3:[34:22] With the cheerleaders, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm getting pretty excited about next week's episode, J.D.Track 1:[34:28] Yeah, I think so. We're going back to the host well after talking about three cast members. Shari, do you want to share who we're going to be talking about?Track 3:[34:40] Out you know they were just talking about him on the saturday night network which i know we talk about a lot right they were just talking about him because they're doing that they're doing that host countdown and he's quite high on their list he was number 10 i think uh yeah i believe 10 might be right 10 11 right he's in the top 12 i believe uh of course i'm talking about kylo ren friend himself, Mr. Adam Driver. Again, very recent, but this one I have to say I agree with. He is one of those serious actors like Garrett who does this great comedic turn, becoming a baby on a plane and just undercover boss. I mean, beep, beep. He's got a great couple. Oh, he was in a science room.Track 2:[35:34] Which is always great.Track 1:[35:40] Cecily and Mikey?Track 3:[35:41] Yes.Track 1:[35:42] Yeah.Track 3:[35:42] So very, very excited to see the case that our guest...Track 1:[35:47] So it's actually Bauer will be joining us. And... it should be a great episode because there's a lot of meat on that bone.Track 3:[35:59] Oh yeah. I'm very excited to come back next week with you too and talk all about Adam driver and what his possibility of getting into the hall of fame might be where he's going to land on those ballots. Yeah. I mean, he's on his way to become a five timer.Track 2:[36:18] So I believe that he could be in the hall of fame.Track 3:[36:24] I think so too. I think there's a good chance he's going to be a host in season 50, even though he was just on in 49. Other hosts have done back-to-backs. Yeah. He always has projects. I mean, he's always in several movies. He could be appearing in a couple of TV shows these days with streaming. Who knows? Anything goes. So he'll definitely have something to promote.Track 1:[36:50] I would think so. He's always got something on the go.Track 3:[36:52] Or he could just show up in cameo and just be a scene stealer that's true.Track 1:[36:57] That's true i i suspect he'll have a part of the 50th anniversary i just think oh absolutely he's you know the last 10 years he's one of the most memorable hosts exactly.Track 2:[37:08] I was thinking the same thing.Track 1:[37:10] So you know he's almost like this cast this generation's jt or walk-in walk-in or yeah Yeah, like how they all had different generations they worked with.Track 3:[37:22] I love the I'm all out of cash.Track 1:[37:25] I'm all out of cash.Track 3:[37:27] That's so good.Track 2:[37:28] Oh, yes, yes.Track 3:[37:30] And that's another one they could have went to Beck Bennett.Track 2:[37:32] But that's like a good team effort sketch. Yeah, yeah.Track 1:[37:36] Totally Kyle and Beck.Track 3:[37:38] Very exciting. And then he played that elderly teacher.Track 2:[37:40] But we'll talk about this next week.Track 3:[37:41] Yeah, very excited to talk next week. It was great fun talking with you both this week and always the highlight of my week. so very excited for next week's episode and very excited to listen to next week's episode because I know it's going to be a great one, absolutely I love talking to you guys and I love telling our audience to like and subscribe and do all those fun things with those fun buttons yes David Spade says smash that button smash that button, I will tell you smash the button And then just get another burner phone and just repeat.Track 1:[38:20] That's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah. Do that for sure. And again, the email I want to remind you is SNLHOFWC at gmail.com. So shoot us a mail. We'd love to hear from you. And on behalf of Joe and Shari, this is JD saying stay thirsty.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week on the program, Thomas, Matt, and jD welcome back Darin Patterson to the show. You can find his work at SNL Nerds where ever you get your podcasts.Transcript:Track 4:[0:42] Thank you so much, Doug DeNance. It is a thrill to be back here with you on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. Before you come inside, if you would do me a favor, please wipe your feet. The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair where each episode we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer, and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Consideration once the nominees have been announced we turn to you the listener to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity inside the hall and that is how we play the game it's just that simple a little 411 for you we have a new email address it is the snl hall of fame at gmail.com that's the snl hall of fame at gmail.com shoot Shoot us an email if you have any questions about the show or would like to guest on this show or the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler with Joe and Shari.Track 4:[1:43] So there's that. This week we are joined by our friend Darren Patterson of the SNL Nerds podcast. You can check that out wherever you find your quality podcasts. Podcasts and uh darren has quite the track record of uh nominating people in episodes he joined us for the first time on season two where he nominated tom hanks who got in then in season three he kicked off the season by nominating dana carvey who also got in that year uh he took the year off in season four and didn't visit us in season five either but this year he's back and uh i'm excited about this episode so there's that.Track 5:[2:32] Here we go with an original not ready for prime time player it is the often overlooked garrett morris matt what do you have to say about garrett morris wow uh garrett uh he five foot eight born february 1st 1937 in new orleans uh he is uh an incredible talent he studied drama at the hb studio and attended juilliard he's a triple threat raised by a baptist minister grandfather he got his first taste of performance in the church choir uh with 116 acting credits six soundtrack credits and one writer credit it, he worked as a soloist and arranger for Harry Belafonte.Track 5:[3:22] Yeah, so he was part of Belafonte's band. During his time as a singer for Harry Belafonte, he was performing in Los Angeles and decided to go for a walk. Police cuffed him and dragged them to jail when he tried to show his hotel keys to prove where he's staying. After a background check, it came back clean. And then they checked the itinerary in his pocket and saw that he was part of Harry Belafonte's band. And all of a sudden they were like oh i'm sorry i'm sorry mr garrett morris i mr morris like we're so he's he that kind of uh changed his life um he became very active uh he joined the black arts repertory theater and school a cornerstone of the black arts movement um um, in New York and ended up being surveilled by the FBI during that time. Yeah.Track 5:[4:23] So he has a file. Um, but you know, he's also done things like he released an album called South African Freedom Songs with Pete Seeger and Guy Carowan. Uh, he appeared in broadway in hallelujah baby and ain't supposed to die a natural death and uh he.Track 5:[4:44] Wrote a play called the secret place daddy piku and stagger lee uh which he penned for the brooklyn uh school kids as part of a new york program uh to write a play for school kids in their in your home borough and on top of all of that he released a comedy album called saturday night sweet um which has some pure disco tracks on there it is it is incredible um he survived a brush with death having been shot in the chest and arm while being mugged uh and got to be kidding me yeah like he's that was.Track 5:[5:28] In 1994 so not even that long ago did not go well for the shooter because there were some garrett morris fans in prison and let's just say he didn't leave the prison uh so yeah that got that you don't mess with a good with great comedians you know people don't like that so yeah so garrett morris garrett morris in a in a wrapped in a bow by our friend matt ardell and now we're going to check in with our other friend Thomas Senna as he digs in on Garrett Morris.Track 2:[6:31] Jamie and Matt, thank you so much. Welcome to another episode of the SNL Hall of Fame. Today we have a Heritage nominee from Season 1, an original Not Ready for Primetime player. So I'm really excited to talk about Mr. Garrett Morris.Track 2:[6:52] And with me to talk about Garrett and his time at SNL is Darren Patterson from the SNL Nerds podcast. Somebody who I haven't had on in like two or three seasons. It was long overdue. I knew I needed to get Darren back for Season 6 of the SNL Hall of Fame. Darren, how's it going, man? It's going well, Thomas. It's going well. Yeah, it's been a minute. I haven't been around these parts in quite some time. I love what you've done with the place. yeah well thank you tied it up a little bit before before you stepped into the hall we make sure to dust and we make sure to everything is in its right place for special guests like yourself so from one snl podcaster to another i gotta make sure that my space is presentable for for you guys especially for other snl podcasters so it's wonderful to have you man i think you were on uh for a roundtable an end of season roundtable i think that's last time we checked in on you yeah yeah it was that was that was a lot of fun that was a that was a blast if i recall correctly yeah yeah no we had a blast talking uh talking about the different nominees from that season of the snl hall of fame uh i love chatting with fellow snl podcasters like we both were chatting beforehand that this is such a really neat community of snl podcasters like both buddies with john schneider from the saturday night network the guys gary and brad from the not Not Ready for Primetime podcast. Andrew Dick's doing his thing.Track 2:[8:19] So, yeah. So, it's just really fun to have a fellow SNL podcaster on. Why don't you tell us what's going on lately over at SNL Nerds? The listeners can go and listen to our 300th episode, which we just recorded. We hit the big 3-double-0. Wow. It's bonkers. Yeah, yeah.Track 2:[8:38] It's an episode we did with Mike Diva, SNL film unit director. The man who directed such hits as I'm Just Pete, the Pete Davidson pre-tape, the Waffle House pre-tape for the Jenna Ortega episode, Mario Kart in the Pedro Pascal episode, the Christmas Carol pre-tape on the Steve Martin, Martin Short episode. Yeah, this dude's done it all. So, guys, go check that out, our 300th episode. That's awesome. We got it. Yeah, yeah. It was a pretty big milestone for us. We were like, oh wow, we've been... We've been really doing this for a while. You know, most podcasters don't even get to five episodes. Really? Yeah, I think I read that somewhere. I think five episodes is like the average, if that. So people start a podcast, they bail after like one or two episodes. So 300 is amazing, man. Yeah, that makes us 60 times better than the average podcast. And you could fill it with you and John Trumbull, your co-host. Yes, yes. Yes. Me and my coach, John Trumbull, we're two guys in New Jersey who are obsessed with SNL, so we during the summer since they've been off, we've just been kind of talking about SNL quote-unquote related movies. Just because we've done all the directly connected to SNL movies, so now we're just like, we just had an episode of Throw Mama from the Train and Billy Crystal's in it. I think that's SNL adjacent. I don't know.Track 2:[10:07] As long as the cast member's on, I think that definitely qualifies. Yeah like as long as we can find one cast member in the cast or for something more produced we kind of shrug and be like all right that works like our next episode we're gonna do a league of their own one of my favorites john lovitz is in that so i was like all right that counts yeah that's one of my favorite things about your podcast is is you you've carved out your own niche in that like you're exploring like snl related movies which which i love so so 300 hundred congratulations darren congratulations john huge milestone go check out uh snl nerds follow them on social media and listen to their pod it's an awesome one so today we are chatting about mr garrett morris so uh garrett had a somewhat different path to snl compared to the rest of the cast he wasn't a groundling didn't come from second city uh garrett was a dramatic actor singer playwright so Lauren was looking for a playwright landed on Garrett who then obviously became a cast member of course part of the original cast so Darren like as an SNL nerd what does Garrett overall kind of mean to you, Oh, God, what does it mean to me? I mean, of course, right off the top, he was the first African-American cast member in SNL. I mean, that's a huge thing right there.Track 2:[11:30] I mean, and also when I think of Gary, I kind of also think of almost like what could have been a little bit just because it's like you said, like Gary really didn't come up with the rest of the cast members through the improv channels. Channels he just kind of he was like a theater kid basically he worked in the theater and playwrights and whatnot so he was he was i i always felt like he that's one of the things that's kind of separated him from the rest uh well i mean i think there was like a few things actually the fact that he well first you know african-american uh the rest of the other cast was uh white uh all the writers were white sometimes i think he was might be the only black guy in like the building yeah Yeah, yeah, seems like, right? It's very possible. Yeah, and so there's that. The fact that he doesn't come through the improv channels, that always kind of separated him. And the fact that he was, like, so much older than the rest of the cast, too, which is something I think a lot of people don't even realize, is because the other cast members, they were all in their 20s when they got to show, like, mid-20s, early 20s, something like that. Garrett was 38 when he got it. Right. It's like, aside from him and George Cove, like those are the old dudes so part of me does think oh maybe those three things kind of are what separated him from the rest of the crew and maybe writers and the cast members maybe didn't know exactly how to.Track 2:[12:55] Fit him into what they were doing so it always seemed like he was kind of doing his own thing the more I think about it I don't know if anybody actually.Track 2:[13:06] Wanted to write a sketch for Garrett it seemed seem more like the writers were like i have this idea for a sketch and if gary can fit in it okay right you know like it was even more something like because a lot of them came from second city i know lorraine was a grambling um but a lot of them have even had even had sketches that they performed together before snl so so that so there was just like an uphill climb uh for gary he had been in like uh uh i think he was in a band um with harry bell like not with harry belafonte But it was a band of like Harry Belafonte kind of like nurtured and like mentored a little bit So Garrett was like in that band. He was singing acting like I mentioned playwrights So that yeah, he was just he wasn't part of like that sketching improv inner circle Yeah, which probably? Was a disadvantage to him and you uh you alluded to it But I mean one thing of course that we can argue is that.Track 2:[14:07] Him being sidelined as a black man. And we saw for a long time afterward that SNL did have a problem with representation, Darren. Yeah, yeah, it really did. I mean, I don't know if maybe they just weren't quite looking for that or they were just kind of maybe more focused on just getting on the kind of humor that maybe they could only conceptualize or conceive as being radical without thinking about maybe how it may appear to other people. Like, you know, they've always had, SNL's always had issues with that. They're doing better, you know, the fact that we have, like now, like we had Bunky, but like people like Bowen or Devin and Ego and like all these other different perspectives, kind of Marcelo now, like all these other different perspectives coming up with ideas that, you know, like ideas that wouldn't have come to other, maybe certain types of writing but uh but you know like like sketches that maybe like ego has done like like things that kind of maybe include like a vernacular or have like a viewpoint from a certain community that you wouldn't have normally thought of like another i'm going off of the tangent here sorry like one sketch i thought of like was um uh the sarah lee sketch from the harry styles episode yes the one that had like cecily and bowen and then harry styles came in and he'd been posting all these odd things on Instagram.Track 2:[15:34] And the wordage they were using, I was like, oh, this is written by Bowen or something, because I don't see anybody else kind of... Unless you know about that community, then a lot of other people just wouldn't know about that. It seems like a lot of the writers who were around when Garrett was around didn't just quite know about his world, so they didn't maybe know how to write it. So that's why maybe they had a harder time trying to figure out what he could do.Track 2:[16:04] Yeah, and like the late 70s, I don't think it was as emphasized or writers and people behind the scenes didn't necessarily care about certain voices. And I think you can, like, if they thought that the audience wouldn't get certain points of view, you can still make those funny. You can kind of train the audience to understand certain things. You could put Garrett or somebody on Weekend Update and kind of – even if you have to kind of explain the backgrounds, explain the context for a few seconds. We've seen them. We saw them do that on Saturday Night Live all the time in the 70s. Even if you have to explain context, you can make it funny. So I don't – I think they just didn't care around that time. Yeah, I think – I mean I think that what you're saying is that that's something they finally caught around when Eddie Murphy kind of came on the scene. Scene and I mean I'm not sure exactly who was writing for him at the time he might have just been writing his own stuff or whatever but like I think when Eddie came in they're like oh this is.Track 2:[17:06] From a fresh new viewpoint that maybe we don't know about, but is worth exploring and investigating and making some sketches about. Yeah, I think there's a lot of credence to that, for sure. All that said, Garrett was such a great singer, such a great actor. I think he added a wonderful dimension to the show when it was on screen. Darren, I've always found this applies to hosts, especially in my opinion, but even cast members. I think some of the best people to do sketch comedy are good actors i think you need to have a sense of humor but you also need to know how to act that's something that they could have really tapped into with gary like talk about acting chops he's probably the best actor uh at that time maybe on the whole cast yeah no he that's true he could have done that i think what he might have done, which maybe kind of you know was was to his you know detriment was he tried to be maybe as funny as the rest of the cast members in some things or like he tried to meet them on their terms when he should have just kind of stuck with his strengths and like and you know that would have been his like maybe more better path forward where like he probably came up saying like well I'm a dramatic actor I know theater.Track 2:[18:25] But these guys are like comedic improv so let me try to be let me try to keep up with them try to play their game but like I feel like he should have kind of maybe played his own game and found his way.Track 2:[18:38] Through what the rest of the improv people were doing. It's almost like, I mean, I don't know if you saw what was it, Batman Forever? The one with Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carey from back in the day, that Batman, where I'm really going off the edge today. No, it's not me.Track 2:[18:59] Jim Carey was the Riddler and he was like he just really played it to this nth degree and uh tommy lee jones was two-faced and he tried to match carrie's crazy and it just got too much crazy yeah whereas like if tommy lee jones maybe played it more straight and played it more kind of down here it would have had a better balance but like i remember that movie just being kind of really off kilter and not great because of that so i think maybe garrett could have done that like he could have been like maybe the more serious grounded uh person or or uh force in a sketch right and while everybody else was kind of acting a little bit crazier around him, Yeah, so he was trying to find his footing, so it's easy to understand why he would be like, well, it's a comedy show, and these guys have – I think I've even heard Garrett say this. He's looked at all of them and said, oh, they're like funny people. They're like trained funny people, so I kind of have to match that. But maybe looking back, you could say I was maybe the best actor of the bunch, so that's what I could have contributed. But you could see it. When I revisit old SNL, a lot of my takeaways from some sketches are like, man, Garrett acted his ass off, and it helped the scene.Track 2:[20:08] Like like big time i i think of like somebody who we're going to talk about this season adam driver to me he's one of the better hosts in snl history because he's like a great actor and a lot of those great dramatic actors do really well as hosts on snl so i just think that skill set really crosses over to sketch comedy yeah no for sure that definitely does like uh yeah i mean you have comedic actors that like try to be the funniest one in the sketch and that can't come across as maybe depending on the comedic actor it could be a little obnoxious but like dramatic actors always kind of know that less is more and like yeah you don't always have to be the big boisterous clown in the room you can just maybe play it down a little bit more and be a little bit more understated and you know find the rhythms and just add to the sketch and that's a better path well it might not be like like the flashiest role or you know like more than what everybody remembers, you still did your part to maybe flesh out the sketch a little bit more and get it to greater heights. Exactly. It services the sketch. Sketch comedy nerds like us will pinpoint that contribution and give credit where credit's due. So as far as Gary goes, I'm really excited. I want to dig into his work on SNL. So is there something that immediately kind of stands out to you that he did on the show?Track 2:[21:33] One of the biggest standouts immediately is the president of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing. It was a quick little thing he always did on a weekend update with Chevy where they have him in those little hard of hearing bubbles. And Chevy would say he's here for the hard of hearing. And Chevy would be like, our top story tonight. And then you just see Garrett cupping his hands over his mouth, screaming the exact same thing that Chevy's saying. Our top story tonight, President Ford is finally over that stubborn week-long cold.Track 2:[22:11] It was like one of those really simple, dumb gags that like we'll get a laugh i remember getting a laugh out of that the first time i saw when i was like a little kid where i was like it's it's simple it's kind of corny it's it's almost like a dad joke but damn it it makes me smile and it lives on too garrett he came back and was it snl 40 that he yes that he did that right i believe so it was one of the snl uh anniversary specials that that they brought garrett back to to do that on weekend update so So that one definitely lives on. I mean, the tone is like just yelling, but Garrett's not trying to like be a clown or be, you know, he's just sort of like doing what needs to be done. And it lives on almost 50 years later, Garrett doing that.Track 2:[22:59] Yeah, I'm sure everybody will remember that. Weekend Update, I kind of want to stick with too, since you started there on Weekend Update. A character he did 10 times, 9 of those on Weekend Update was Chico Escuela. Is sports correspondent which is what i i mean that when i think of garrett i think of like the a lot of the fun stuff he did as chico escuela darren yes yes me too i mean it was like um i mean yeah like you said it was like a character that just kind of popped up here and there a little bit uh it wasn't you know it wasn't it didn't get too overused there was no you know emily latela or anything like that but it was poor poor emily latela that's like the classic example but you're right I agree right she got so much air time it was like wow you really trying to make Emily Latela happen but I mean Chico escuela like he had again much like Garrett he kind of went at his own pace you know the baseball didn't very very good to me and whatnot it was like a very small that's small but very understated character very understated performance, memorable, to say the least, I'd say. Baseball been very, very good to me. This week, baseball been very, very good to Willie Mance. Say hey, Willie always keep his eye on the ball.Track 2:[24:25] In the Super Bowl, we have, how do you say, highlights. Roll, please. Please, Jackie A. Smith did not keep his eye on the ball. I think it is actually kind of a nuanced thing because I love the conceit of he doesn't know anything, especially the first one. The first time he came on as a sports correspondent, he doesn't know about any other sports. He's just trying to like push his way through like the nhl highlights and he doesn't really know much about basketball then when baseball he just kind of jumps right in and yeah just talks about it so i just think that's a very very funny conceit chico always seemed like a nice guy has that catchphrase man like like everybody who knows the show it seems like knows the baseball been very very good to me and yeah like yeah he another one that lives on yeah no it's not like one of the bigger catch, you know, it's not like it's no two wild and crazy guys, but I feel like it's another like.Track 2:[25:32] It's another thing where it's like, yeah, it's a catchphrase that may not be that big, but it is known. I don't know. The more I think about it, the more I think more serious SNL nerds like us would appreciate Garrett more. He's always just been kind of – again, he's not like the big flashy breakout star, but people like us, we see what you're doing there. Yeah, I know. If you really go back and watch the first five seasons, there's so many times where we're like, oh my gosh, Garrett. It like like and he i love the chico character too because like it had an arc like he had a really fun arc there's at one point where he uh was quitting weekend update because he went back to met spring training to try to make the team again because his his background was that he was an all-star for the new york meds so uh but then when he went to uh spring training uh it turns Turns out that some of the team was upset with him because he wrote a detailed account of Major League Baseball.Track 2:[26:32] And it was called Bad Stuff Bout the Mets that he wrote. So he had to endure himself. So there was like a whole narrative arc with Chico Escuela going to Mets spring training, then flaming out. So that's something that I kind of would love to see more of on SNL, especially with weekend update kind of characters. I want to see those narrative. But we like we got that with Seth and Stefan but Darren like I love that There's like some sort of narrative arc here. Yeah, I don't yeah I I mean I'd love to have like you said like something like narrative arcs in SNL and or even runners I think that they tried to do, Runners a little bit back in the day like they had that um, when Kim Kenna was on they still had that uh, was it I.Track 2:[27:18] Think she had like some little bit of runner through there. I, They can't even remember it. But I don't know. Part of me thinks because of this, I guess, TikTok world we're living in where, like, you know, the little sound bites and clips are a little bit more important just to get eyes and views. I don't know if there's a place for, like, a runner or... Marianne Conway, that's who. They had the Marianne Conway thing where Kate McKinnon was, like, on her knees. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, all right. All right, sorry. I just remembered.Track 2:[27:51] So, yeah. Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, I would love a runner. I would love arcs. But again, because we're in this world now where quick little five-minute video clips are kind of how we just ingest everything now. I just don't know if there's room for an arc or a runner or anything like that anymore. It's a bummer because they're really cool. No, I could see that. No, it was really cool with Chico. go that was a character too that i would hear people who watched uh snl live when in the late 70s always referenced they would always reference chico escuela and base baseball being very very good to me and all that so i think this kind of like almost lives on as far as like this might be like garrett's legacy at snl is this character because i really have heard a lot of older snl fans when i was a kid they would always reference this like i knew what this was before i even saw I saw it on screen. I knew what this was. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah, no, totally memorable, totally great. Yeah, it's fantastic. What else is there that may have popped out to you for Garrett? I mean, the one thing that comes to my mind is the, I forget the name of the sketch, but it's like that aristocrat's dinner that happens.Track 2:[29:08] And Garrett is a person who's, you know, what's it called? He has like a staff in his hand. He slammed it against the ground to introduce people to the party. Say, you know, Lord and Lady Gardner, Lord and Lady, blah, blah, blah. And then these two people come in and he says, Lord and Lady Douchebag. Douchebag and uh we get this whole sketch about you know this lord and this lord and lady in this fancy high society party and their names are douchebags to your point that sketch which i think honestly was the last sketch of the original era it happened in the very last episode buck henry hosted it in season five yes yes i think it may have been the last sketch of the original error or close to it maybe there was one more after that uh but but to your point garrett made that sketch because if you ask somebody they i think a lot of like casual sketch comedy fans will tell you oh yeah i've heard of like lord and lady douchebag um but they couldn't tell you the beats of the sketch no right they just recite garrett saying that line so that's to your point like garrett made the most out of he wasn't the star of the sketch i think it was buck henry and Harry Shearer, honestly. But Garrett May, he was the star of that sketch ultimately. Lord and lady, douchebag!Track 2:[30:33] Yeah, and I know Bill Murray was in that sketch, because at one point he goes, ah, douchebag! He does that. But yeah, I don't remember anything anyone else actually said in that sketch. The one thing you can you think about it or totally remember is Garrett saying Lord and Lady Douchebag. I mean, that's him taking, I guess what he knew was going to be like the big line that would get the big laugh.Track 2:[30:58] Once everybody in the audience kind of sees where the sketch is going that's going to be their big aha moment so like he probably looked at that and was new like oh i really need to really like enunciate and make a big deal out of this one phrase that like i just know is going to be the one that sticks in everybody's brain exactly he brought out his booming but he almost brought his singing voice yeah yeah he said that absolutely yeah that was a great example that's way back uh at the end of season five.Track 2:[31:28] Like the very last episode of the original era, Garrett still made his mark for sure. In season one, almost maybe a missed opportunity. They did this four times, but something that I always loved when I went back and rewatched a lot of the original seasons was he hosted a show called Black Perspective. Yes, yes. Yeah, so he did that in episode four was his first time. So they kind of gave Garrett his talk show. he played uh uh probably a different version of himself and he had on jane curtain playing a different version of herself but these black perspective they could have been a thing like again he did it four times but they were always like they had jokes about about just things that like like to your earlier point that there were jokes involving like black perspective that's the name of the show the black community but but these were ones darren that uh that i loved so he said He said he had Jane Curtin on the first time. Fran Tarkenton appeared on season two.Track 2:[32:29] So it was basically kind of Garrett and the show almost mocking like stereotypes. Yeah. It's just kind of poking fun of them. Like Fran Tarkenton was talking about how like. Black guys can't read defenses and that's why they aren't quarterbacks and he made fran made to was made to look like the in that sketch but that's kind of the theme of this yeah i remember those those are like really interesting i mean like of course tim meadows would kind of do something like that yeah you know well i've been called perspectives yeah yeah yeah outstanding.Track 2:[33:01] But uh but yeah like that's like another thing that like uh garrett had that didn't, I mean I don't want to say it didn't take off they were really cool and really interesting but yeah like I again like they're not you know you don't see them too often when you look at an SNL, retrospective like they'll show you you know Samurai Chef or something a lot but you won't really see that like I do remember there was like another one where Julian Bond yes when he hosted and there was this like who's this you know politician this black politician back in the day and like there was this one really interesting sketch that they got into where where, I mean, I kind of wish they went further with it, but, like, the conceit of it is, like, they talk about how, like, light-skinned blacks are smarter than dark-skinned blacks. I remember seeing that. I was like, wow, that's a bold... Yeah, that happened in, like, 1976 or 77. Yeah. That was, like, in season two. They've been saying that whites are smarter than blacks for hundreds of years, baby, right? And we've only had these IQ tests for, what, 20, 30 years. Now, how did the IQ of white intellectual superiority originate in the first place? Well, that's a very interesting point. My theory is that it's based on the fact that light-skinned blacks are smarter than dark-skinned blacks.Track 2:[34:25] Say what? Garrett just kind of waits a beat, just kind of stares at him in that Garrett way, those eyes. I thought that was pretty hilarious. I mean, really, really ballsy for its time. I was like, wow. I don't even know if I'd try that sketch today. Yeah, right, exactly. They only did those black perspective ones like four times. Cecily Tyson was on the last one. And that was Cecily telling Garrett that black women have gotten a raw deal because the black man is such a loser Garrett it was like so I was like say what and he had this reaction So it's like kind of tension that between he and Cecily Tyson, Because she just kind of said that so so yeah, so I would have loved to see like a.Track 2:[35:11] More of those and more like perspective uh in in garrett's voice and more black perspective honestly yeah like i remember i mean from what i've read like garrett was the thing where he was like really kind of trying to fight to get stuff like that on he was trying to kind of get you know like sketches that kind of seemed more from the black perspective but like he was kind of just hitting so many walls with that and so like the fact that he got the little that he did i I think it's a huge accomplishment, even though maybe people didn't quite get it at the time. I mean, I think the fact that he just he put it out there and I'd imagine like there must be some people, some black comics coming up that's seen that and was like inspired by that. Yeah, yeah, I think so. He he tells a funny story. I mean, he speaks highly of Al Franken overall.Track 2:[35:58] He said nice things about Al Franken, but he did say that Al Franken kind of pushed back on some of his ideas. Is and he said one time he he challenged al frank into a wrestling match and he said he said he thought he was going to get the worst of it probably because al was a wrestler and he's kind of a stocky build guy like al's kind of a bigger dude he was a bigger dude than what you might think it's like i i challenged him he's like i knew i was gonna probably get my ass kicked but i challenged al frank and so snlwf yeah yeah exactly so garrett did have to almost literally fight for screen time sometimes. I had no idea. Yeah, that makes sense. Al Franken, from what I know about him, especially in his younger days, he was a bit of a...Track 2:[36:45] He had a bit of a... Temper or he was just a little gave you a lot of pushback you know he's exactly he's the man that came up with limo for a lame-o i mean for a lame-o yeah he's the one that uh when everybody like the cast i think it was in the late 80s early 90s i think it was george harrison who was like.Track 2:[37:04] Playing piano and just putting basically putting on this like beatles show in the office for people and al's the one who came out of his office and said get back to work you guys got some writing sketches to do and yeah so i don't blame garrett sometimes for trying to fight him push back on that uh one other memorable moment you mentioned the so the julian bond one i think is very memorable chico escuela deaf and hard of hearing one the lord and lady douchebag so garrett has these like memorable things um one thing i also knew about when i was a kid uh was if you remember this was in season one as well when they had what they called like death row follies yes prison yes so yeah they're putting on a performance of gg at a prison and are auditioning inmates oh yeah so you remember this one yes i do yeah so where.Track 2:[37:59] Does it go from here if you can if you can remember the beats i believe if we're thinking about the same one this is the one where Garrett comes out as an inmate and he starts singing the song.Track 2:[38:49] That's the one and it comes out of nowhere too it's like because dan dan and chevy played inmates for the first two auditions and then garrett comes out he's saying that he was in solitary confinement and he was writing this thing and he goes to the piano and i think maybe by episode 11 the audience had heard garrett probably sing yes so they knew that he was like this maybe maybe Maybe like a really good singer. So you're expecting. And even sometimes I forget. Because I'm expecting Garrett to kind of sing this beautiful song. But no. It's his famous song. Yeah it's like this kind of jaunty upbeat song. I'm going to take all the shotgun and kill all the white guys. Yeah. Which even makes it funnier. And like you're just talking about. Once he does that. Whitey won't bother him. Yeah.Track 2:[39:40] Yeah exactly. He said he got that from a real thing. And it wasn't like, kill all the whiteys. I see it was much, you know, it was a very, very, very racist little performance that Garrett happened to see. So he kind of flipped the script on that. Yeah. So that's kind of where Garrett said he got it from. But such a memorable moment. I knew the words to that song before I even saw the context to it as well. And that's something that like lives on with Garrett yeah and again that's another way like or another instance of Garrett kind of taking over a sketch with his little screen time he has because I don't remember what happened before that sketch or after Garrett saying it like all the other parts of that sketch I don't quite remember but I definitely remember Garrett singing that song and talking about getting a shotgun but like I know there was some stuff before and after he performed but I don't.Track 2:[40:38] Call it but no garrett's part that was the star of the show the only reason why i remember the beats because i just kind of recently watched it okay but like but but other than that that's all you remember from the sketch because it's so like shocking and memorable and hilarious and uh i think gilda is part of the sketch and they tell all the and they warn her basically or they say oh you might want to like button your top button a little bit more because these these men haven't seen a woman in years or whatever and then of course they all take a shining um to put it nicely to gilda throughout to put it nicely yes that's the nice way of saying it yeah because yeah that i remember yeah that was wow yeah yeah uh there was one more that i kind of uh that i think really sticks out with some people and garrett says that he's pretty proud of this one i've heard him talk about it and it's called the white guilt relief fund oh yes yeah I'm Garrett Morris talking to all you white Americans about the way black people have been treated in America now I know a lot of you feel guilty and you should.Track 2:[41:43] My great-great grandmother was brought over here on the slave ship and was raped by her white master and my grandfather was lynched by a mob for not tipping his hat to a white lady now they're dead now there's nothing you can do to erase their suffering. However, if you would like to relieve your guilt, I am willing to accept money as a representative victim of 400 years of repression. Send your check or money order to White Guilt Relief Fund, care of Garrett Marsh, 870 West 127th Street, New York, New York. Good perspective. I like it. That's the stuff that I wanted more of. Yeah. That's actually a pretty smart concept. I don't know why they didn't do more things I don't know, it seems like maybe the writers just had their own ideas and then they just kind of were like, alright, we'll give Garrett this one thing and that'll make him happy and then we can do our thing, what we want to do. But I don't know, I feel like they left money on the table in a way. They could have explored Garrett's mind a little bit more and worked with him a little bit more and gotten all these other great sketches from perspectives no one else maybe was even thinking about looking at.Track 2:[42:55] Yeah, they really could have. Yeah. I mean, they were really funny. They were really short, too. Like, that White Guilt Relief Fund one wasn't that long. It's something that you could plug in. Like, that's kind of a replicable concept that you could plug in if you need a minute ten to fill, honestly. Like, that's something you could do. Yeah, that could be like a TikTok. That's like TikTok. Perfect TikTok. It really is. Yeah, that's like for the TikTok era. Garrett was ahead of his time. He was ahead of his time. Really, Garrett created TikTok, if you think about it. Yeah, I mean, that sounds, I haven't looked into that, but that sounds right. That sounds, that checks out. It checks out, story checks out. Thank you, Garrett.Track 2:[43:34] Is there anything else before we kind of, like, move on, post-SNL stuff for Garrett? I've always liked his, that one role he had as the best friend Cliff for the Fenstruck Brothers. Oh, yeah. Like, he didn't have too much to do there, but, like, you know, he kind of came in and came out. And he'd always acted like a good sort of straight man to help the these two dudes just try to get the foxy foxy lady single women's yes yes yes I remember click very well I don't know if I undersold it honestly but I think he's on the shortlist and he might be the greatest singer in SNL history.Track 2:[44:37] Anna gasteyer is amazing cecily recently chloe trost currently but is there a better singer as far as cast than garrett i mean all those singers you mentioned are great uh melissa vio senor for the little time she didn't get to sing she's great but uh i think the fact that garrett is like classically trained and he like sung you know mozart songs and don otavino songs The fact that he can sing operatic stuff, I think maybe puts him a notch above all those other singers you mentioned. Because they're all great and have beautiful voices, but when you hear...Track 2:[45:15] Garrett Morris has a voice of an angel. Yeah, for sure. He can sing Ave Maria type stuff, and that's pretty special. Yeah, 100%. I would put Garrett, number one, probably on a gas tire right after that. She's still doing Broadway stuff. She's an incredible singer. And then everybody else is kind of fighting after that, after Garrett and Anna. But that should be part of his legacy as well. The most talented singer in SNL history. Yeah, you can't dismiss his singing prowess. I think there's enough stuff out there that people know he can sing when he sang on the show. But I feel like it's something that doesn't get brought up as much as it should. It because i mean he's he my man's got pipes yeah definitely uh yeah so after snl he made one cameo since he left the show in 1980 with the original cast garrett's made one cameo not including snl 40 and all those it was in november of 2002 the pop quiz here and i actually i'll admit i didn't know this until a couple days ago do you know the context of this cameo that That happened in an episode in November of 2002?Track 2:[46:27] I don't think. I don't believe so. No. He appeared in an Astronaut Jones sketch. Oh. Out of nowhere. It was Brittany Murphy. And of course Astronaut Jones. The Tracy Morgan character. And it was. Yeah. Garrett was standing right by him. And I forgot who else. So there was a third guy. Okay. No. It was Nellie.Track 2:[46:50] Nellie. It was Nellie. I was not expecting to say that. Yeah this is 2002 uh so so is tracy as astronaut jones and then nelly and garrett and then britney murphy was the host so so garrett appeared in astronaut jones darren that is wild i totally forgot about that yeah 22 years almost 23 years after he left the show that was his only appearance.Track 2:[47:15] Yeah, that is wild. I kind of wish he'd made more appearances. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah, me too. But hopefully we'll see him here on SNL 50. I assume so.Track 2:[47:27] He guest starred in a lot of sitcoms, different strokes, The Jeffersons, Hill Street Blues, Married with Children, all over the place. If you watch Martin like I did, main part of the cast of Martin, very beloved, The Jamie Foxx Show, Two Broke Girls. Roles so man like i don't know he's still around he appeared in ant-man in 2015 which was awesome they made up a reference to him playing ant-man on snl yes the first wasn't he the first uh person ever to play ant-man in like tv or film it's like live action so maybe he's he is the first yeah so i'm glad that that was like a little tip of the cap to garrett playing ant-man in that it was like a parade of of superheroes kind of sketch oh yes yes i remember that that was a good one yeah so So, like, awesome, Darren, like, when Garrett just pops up in something you're watching, right? Yeah. Gets you excited. Yeah, it does. It does. It's like, oh, yeah, he's still out here. He's still doing it. He's still, he always just seemed, like, kind of just, like, kind of very zen, almost. Like, he's just, like, a very laid-back dude, and he's just kind of happy where he's at. And, you know, he's just, he just has a really great kind of aura about him. I don't know. I never met the man, but, like, I feel like if I, if we ever did, I would just, it would just like i would feel at peace at one yeah myself like through him he's buddhist it really yeah so that tracks no garrett's buddhist yeah i just made all that shit up i had no idea.Track 2:[48:54] That's awesome you have a good feel for it because i think i think garrett would be pretty zen i think he's he has said that he's buddhist uh so so yeah that's a good good read of a person darren Wow, way to go me. I did get that vibe. I think Martin was the first thing that I had. I mean, I think I had seen some old SNL clips when he was on, but I think Martin was my first real exposure to Garrett. So I do remember that just him being like just the funny station manager, the casual. So that was actually my first exposure to Garrett was Martin. Yeah, I think for a lot of, you know, people that grew up in the 90s, it was that, too. And, like, I mean, I remember him from Martin, of course, and Jamie Foxx show later on in the 90s. But, like, I guess I was big enough. I was a big enough SNL nerd to be like, oh, wait, that's the guy who was on. That's Chico Escuela. That's the guy that was on that SNL show that I watched the reruns of on Comedy Central. That's the guy that was going to grab the shotgun. Remember him? Yeah, he was going to kill all of them. Yes.Track 2:[49:56] Um so lamorne morris will be playing garrett in the upcoming saturday night movie um like one of the things you do on your podcast is discussing snl related movies i'm sure you're excited about this one this could be like the holy grail of snl movies for you guys yeah no with we are super as soon as the trailer dropped we were we were both super pumped i think i watched that trailer at least five or six times yeah we're definitely like me and my buddy john trumbull we we i think we uh spent there was like one episode we put out recently we spent like at least 15 minutes just talking about that trailer uh but yeah i mean i love the way it looks i think it looks great i love the way there's this one scene in the trailer where, Lamorne Morris is kind of looking at Jim Henson while he's smoking a cigarette. And the stare that he gives Jim Henson, it looked a lot like a young Garrett Morris. For a minute, I was like, oh, that looks like Garrett.Track 2:[51:00] So I'm looking forward to that. And I just really like the look of it. I think everybody who's playing, whoever they're playing, kind of gets it. The guy that's playing young Lorne Michaels kind of has his speech patterns down and his little pout. But he doesn't do it to an extent where it's a goofy caricature. You know, he's just like, you know. He has the little pout going on and the voice down. The guy that plays Chevy kind of has Chevy's voice down.Track 2:[51:29] I'm really looking forward to this. I might... I mean, I'm not going to take the day off work or anything, but I think I'm going to definitely see this opening... Definitely opening weekend, maybe opening night. but like i yeah i am so pumped for this i want to see it opening night but my wife's gonna be out of town and i might have to wait for her to get back because she's really wants to see it too i don't know to see this is this is a moral quandary with the husband do i am i do i adhere to my snl passion as a podcast maybe i could justify it as like i'm a podcaster i gotta see it opening night honey and then we'll see it again maybe when you get back but i don't know this is a moral quandary for me darren yeah i know oh i've i've been in those shoes where it's like, she's not she's out of town but i really want to see this show uh just go and then i pretend to be surprised yeah no you don't want to do that.Track 2:[52:26] A marriage is built on honesty fair enough yeah you're damn right so uh either way uh i'll definitely be seeing it soon afterward lamorne morris seems like he has um garrett's kind of aura down a little bit there's this trailer where he kind of introduces it and it seems like he's really got a pretty good feel for garrett i love lamorne in a new girl um a lot of stuff he's other done he's done as well i liked him in the new season of unstable even though that season was I thought I liked Lamorne in the season. So I'm looking forward to seeing his portrayal of Garrett and just the movie overall. And I get skeptical with biopics, especially with SNL kind of things. But this does look really promising. It does. I mean, Lamorne Morris has always been really good. I really liked him in, I don't know if you saw the movie Game Night. I haven't. It's really funny. It's really good. I saw it on Hulu a while ago on a whim just because I heard a lot of friends say it's really funny. You should check it out and i checked it out and it's really it's like on the level of almost like bridesmaids or like the hangover or like all the big comedies that came out in the early it's but it's like smarter and it's really well shot and like game night fantastic movie but anyway uh saturday night we're talking about that movie yeah but yeah so we're yeah we're pumped for saturday night pumped for the garrett morris uh depiction by lamorne morris so now's the time Darren, we've reached the point in the show where you kind of make an appeal to people.Track 2:[53:54] So why don't you tell us, why should listeners, SNL fans, and folks at the SNL Water Cooler appreciate Garrett's place in SNL history? Because the fact, first of all, he's the first African-American cast member. Boom, right there. And secondly, yes, he may not be the most memorable one of the group, or the one that got the most spotlight or get the most accolades.Track 2:[54:23] You still remember him. Even though he didn't get that much screen time or much lines, you still remember Chico Escuela. You still remember the president of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing. Those things still reside in your brain for some reason. He's always somebody who's made quite a lot with not what little he's given. You still remember hearing him sing with that beautiful angelic voice of his. He stays in your memory. He's always been a solid cast member. And while it's a shame he never got his due, you still remember him. He still sticks around in your brain. And yeah, he might be the unsung hero, I'd say, of the original SNL cast.Track 4:[55:31] So there's that thank you so much darren patterson from the snl nerds podcast check that out if you're listening to this and you don't listen to the snl nerds podcast what are you thinking keep that's, you know, get your priorities straight.Track 4:[55:52] Add it to your playlist. Thanks, Darren. It's great to have you back. I'm real curious if you keep your streak up. Tom Hanks, Dana Carvey, that's a pretty good pedigree that you've established. And I am very curious to see whether or not your luck is with Garrett Morris. So there's that. that let's go to the garrett morris sketch that uh thomas is selected here and i want to tell you that it is uh the first chico escuela appearance on weekend update uh obviously we listened to thomas and darren and chico escuela was certainly a big part of of garrett morris's five-year tenure at SNL. This took place season four, episode eight. So that's his first appearance. Wow. So really he was only season four and season five that he was Chico Escuela. To me, it was something that was just, it was always there. I don't know. I guess because of the clip shows, I'm skewed. At any rate, let's go to that now.Track 3:[57:11] New York Mets, Chico Escuela. Welcome, Chico. Chico will be covering the sports team for Weekend Update. Thank you. Thank you very, very much. Baseball being very, very good to me. Thank you, Hayne. Pete Ross Baseball being very, very good to Pete Ross, $3.2 million for Pete Ross Charlie Hustle, you bet Daniel, very, very much, And football. I don't know football. In Dominican Republic, football is... How you say in, um... soccer. Your football... I don't know. And National Hockey League. In baseball baseball being very very good to me thank you very much thank.Track 4:[58:38] You thank you very much oh man that's freaking fantastic what a baseball been better better good to me is just uh like thomas said in the conversation, it's just one of those things I knew and I was born in 74 so I was one and a half when SNL began so clearly I don't remember that my first memories are season 9 really, maybe a little bit of season 8 but I didn't really get into things until season 10 so there's that, I don't know whether or not.Track 4:[59:20] Garrett Morse makes the hall. It's going to be interesting.Track 4:[59:25] Tune in this week to the SNL Hall of Fame water cooler to hear what Joe and Shari have to say. I joined them this week on the show. And it should be interesting to take note of their feelings and thoughts on this. Thanks for joining us this week.Track 4:[59:47] It's always a pleasure. on behalf of Thomas and Matt I want to thank Darren Patterson once again and do me one last favor, on your way out as you walk past the weekend update exhibit turn out the lights, because the SNL Hall of Fame is now closed.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Shari and Joe as they discuss this weeks episode of the HOF podcast and share their visions for first-time hosts.Transcript: Track 2:[0:19] Hi, welcome to the Saturday Night Live Hall of Fame Water Cooler Podcast. You know, kind of a short, simple title. Or to put it another way, the SNL HOFH2L Podcast. Just to, you know, hashtag it. I'm Joe.Track 3:[0:43] And I'm Shari.Track 2:[0:44] And we're sitting here next to the water cooler, ready for this week's discussion.Track 3:[0:51] Yep. Are you filling up your cup, Joe? I'm filling mine up.Track 2:[0:55] And I'm good. All right. Let's do this.Track 3:[0:59] Okay. We're going to start it off by talking about this week's episode of the SNL Hall of Fame with the fabulous Thomas Senna and his special guest, Jamie Burwood. Wood jamie is a og snl hall of fame guest she's been on a couple of times and i believe all of her nominees have gotten in christopher walken and will ferrell will ferrell thank you joe because i blanked out and our latest nominee she finally got in in season five molly shannon so yes he's on a roll let's see if she can keep it up with sherry o terry did you want to continue on and uh so yeah.Track 2:[1:48] Uh yeah those two they had a great discussion uh they covered a lot uh so uh but i there's plenty left to discuss uh you know they brought up uh, that Sherry's often paired up with Will Ferrell, who, you know, they performed in the Groundlings together. They started at Saturday Night Live at the same time. Will Ferrell, Sherry Oteri, Chris Kattan. Basically, Saturday Night Live cleaned house around season 20. They got rid of those bums, Chris Farley, Mike Myers, and Kevin Nealon. No, they were great. It was just, they did their term. It was time for a change. It was time for a change. And then they brought in, yeah, Will Ferrell, Chris Kattan, David Kegner, Daryl Hammond, and our focus for today, Sherry O'Terry.Track 3:[2:43] Thank you, Joe. That was a really good lead-in, recap. Thank you. You're coming up with all the good words, and I'm somehow blanking.Track 2:[2:52] It's cool.Track 3:[2:53] I think we're ready with that great recap. I think we're ready to talk about...Track 2:[3:00] Point counterpoint. Uh, so, uh, okay, let's go into pros and cons. All right. Now this week, uh, I'm going to take the pros with Sherry and you'll take the cons.Track 3:[3:12] Yep. We're switching places.Track 2:[3:14] All right. Uh, so, uh, as far as the pros go, the first thing, and I, they mentioned this on the other episode, she is very energetic. Energetic and the word i want to add on to that is she's energetic to the point where all of her characters are twitching i mean like she's just literally like shocking just you know um yeah like with our characters uh laura or whom i think who's the first one um yeah adele and uh.Track 2:[3:53] Where's the other one? The one that, oh, Colette Rairdon. I wanted to bring her up because she probably has a reason to twitch a little bit because she has a big box of prescriptions that she's on. But yeah, Sherry's very energetic to the point where she's twitching, gives 110%, and also she's just Just a hair below chewing the scenery. She's, you know, not hamming it up. She's not. Everything that she's doing with her energy seems appropriate and called for. And it makes sense within the character. So I just want to point out that she never, ever sleepwalks through a part. So, yeah, that's the first pro I got in your con.Track 3:[4:45] Okay, Joe, that is excellent. And she is very high energy. And Jamie Burwood said that same thing. In fact, her exact, well, maybe not her exact words, but her words were she brings a zaniness and a wackiness that is... Unparalleled. That was Jamie's words, and you pretty much reiterated them, Joe. Unfortunately, I'm here to bring the con, and that wackiness and that zaniness and that shout, she likes to shout. She shouts a lot. So her characters, Rita Del Vecchio, and you mentioned Colette Reardon and of course Simma Down Lady very over the top very shouty all of them and sometimes this repetitive habit with the shouting with the so over the top you and Jamie say that's you know that's a positive a lot of viewers and I've heard it from a lot of viewers over the years because I was watching her back in the day, felt like that was too much, like she was trying too hard. So, yes, she's not sleepwalking. She's almost the opposite of sleepwalking, and that gives viewers a lot of fatigue, and I think people got a little tired of that shtick. So that's my con. Back to you, Joe.Track 2:[6:11] I got it. No, and I get to the point where, yeah, because that happens with Saturday Night Live, where even the best characters get old, hence why she got there in the first place. Like Chris Farley was doing Van Down by the River, which to me is one of my favorite sketches ever. That first one with Christina Applegate, I mean, that to me is one of the top five sketches. However, it got old, and that's why they had to get rid of Farley, bring in new people, and that's how Sherry got there. So yes, that happens at Saturday Night Live. I agree. And with her in particular, yes, the shouting and the energy and the –.Track 2:[6:54] Does wear thin so i agree with that so okay my next pro is something i personally picked up on uh when i was doing all this research is her she does characters of all ages and it's almost to the point where it's like the same character just at different spots in her and the character's life like she did alfina which is this hyper character that visits the pilot um ariana the spartan cheerleader we have to mention her but we'll get back to that and then laura zimmerman the character she did with uh chris katan the hyper sexual hyper sexed couple uh and then rita the porch uh dweller and then finally colette reardon the uh prescription taker and it's like this it's almost like the same person at different stages of the character's life and it's it's cool to see the same actor being able to do that um i just thought that was kind of unique, and i enjoyed seeing that okay.Track 3:[8:00] Joe that is an excellent point she she really she really does put her whole self into her characters and she does do a variety of ages and the observation you made about it being almost like the same character at different points in their life was very interesting, but I'm going to go con now, and this is a biggie, and Jamie and Thomas discussed this quite extensively, and that's the fact that, A, she didn't do a lot after Saturday Night Live, a little bit here and there, some voice work, a couple of TV episodes, nothing major, I guess she was on Broadway, nothing.Track 3:[8:42] I don't even remember hearing about that, but apparently she was on Broadway, but it was very short lived. I think she's had some personal stuff. She keeps it pretty quiet. But the other part of this that's bigger to me is she's never really come back to the show. And I'll be curious to see if she even comes back for the 50th anniversary because I do not believe she was at the 40th. So she really, she didn't really make a connection. Like so many of them stay in touch. Like, look at Dana and David have their podcast fly in the wall. Sherry seems like she kind of disconnected from SNL altogether. And I'm sure she had her reasons. But that is a big reason that voters are going to be like, well, she doesn't care enough to come back to the show. Why would I waste a vote on her and get her into the very hallowed halls of SNL Hall of Fame? So I think that's going to be a biggie. I think that might even hinder her from getting that 10% that she needs to just stay on the ballot. So I guess only time will tell, right?Track 2:[9:49] That is a great point. Because here's something else. Because that whole trio of Farrell, Oteri, Kattan, they all started at the same time. It's kind of like all three of them went in separate directions. And when Will Ferrell hosted Saturday Night Live like three times or the first three times, he always seemed to bring back an old sketch, you know, like he did Jeopardy. He also did that one couple, the middle school singers with Anna Gassmeyer.Track 3:[10:24] Right, right, right, right.Track 2:[10:25] And you would think at least once that they would, you know, when Will Ferrell's hosting, that they would do the cheerleaders. You know like that to me is iconic as, You know, Farley and Spade, Wayne and Garth. Right. You know, like, Will Ferrell, because like we mentioned over and over again, Ferrell and Oteri, they physically look good together. Like, almost in this, not exactly like this, but almost in a Laurel and Hardy type way, where Will Ferrell's tall, Sherry's short, you know, and then she brings the energy to make up for it. So she's, you know, in a scene with Will Ferrell, you know, and she's able to catch your eye with her energy, which is both a pro and a con, you know. So, yeah, I agree.Track 3:[11:21] I guess only time will tell. I guess what we really need to do here is encourage people to vote.Track 2:[11:26] Yes. Vote.Track 3:[11:27] If you think Sherry is deserving, vote. Because if you don't, she's not going to stick around so you can vote for her next time. So if you're going to vote, vote because people left last season. Justin Timberlake is gone. Several others are gone because they didn't.Track 2:[11:53] Yeah, they didn't.Track 3:[11:54] The five seasons came and went. And there are some who didn't get the 10% and didn't get to come back this season. So think about that. That's why Joe and I do this pro and con thing. And now I think we're ready to, are we ready to move on now, Joe? Are you good?Track 2:[12:11] Yeah.Track 3:[12:12] All right. We are going to move on to hopes for season 50. And it's only like four weeks away. Yay! I can't believe it either. I can't believe it.Track 2:[12:26] I need a distraction from this election, and what better way to digest the election better than with Saturday Night Live? I need Saturday Night Live to take all of this craziness of the world, not just the election, but just everything that's going on, and I need to see it through the prism of Saturday Night Live.Track 3:[12:44] I couldn't agree more, and I'm so excited. Our hopes for Season 50, themed today, is first-time hosts. Hosts. We're going to talk about first-time hosts. And Joe inspired this idea. Joe, do you want to talk just a little bit about how this all came about? Because I know it has throwback roots for you, nostalgic roots for you. So why don't you let the listeners know all about it?Track 2:[13:15] Oh, I couldn't. And by the way, that's a joke to everyone who knows me because I talk about this to people that don't even want to hear it. So the fact that I'm on a podcast right now and it's the perfect opportunity to talk about it, I just wanted to make that one joke of going.Track 3:[13:32] Nah.Track 2:[13:34] Nah, I'm good. Let's move on. No. So, OK, here's how this list came about. It was about 2006 and Peter Sarsgaard was a they announced or whatever, like on the bumper that Peter Sarsgaard was going to be that the next week's host. And he's a fine actor to everything. Nothing against him. But just at the time, I had no idea who he was. And I'm like, man, it's really random who they get to host Saturday Night Live for the first time, aside from John Goodman, Tom Hanks, Alec Baldwin, Steve Martin, and such. But as far as who gets to host for the first time, it's random because they're usually rising up in fame. Their TV show is becoming popular. They're about to be in a bunch of movies. They just signed a three-movie contract or something. Like they're about to be popular and another person of note is the fact that Bradley Cooper hosted like the February before the hangover came out so it is like you have to really pay attention to who's popular right now and like who's been on the rise and then match that to did they host yet and then if they didn't then they're most likely gonna you know and that's where I try and came up with this list and I just want to give out one more shout out.Track 2:[15:02] To my mom because I used to play this game with my mom until she just lost interest and it became hard but anyway one year I was like hey I made my list and I went on internet movie database tried to see who was you know on the rise and when their movie was coming out and like oh this person has three movies coming out this year and you know it's around in the fall so they probably will be on Saturday Night Live to promote it and stuff like that and I'm trying to carefully analyze and dates and stuff like this and then i kept telling my mom hey mom they're gonna you know the show's gonna come back you better you know because it's kind of cheating if you see who's hosting the first episode and then and then you pick so i kept hounding her hounding her and then i go mom come on let's just do this and she goes all right fine and she takes an issue of entertainment weekly and just sends through it and goes her him him her her and then made her list just off the cuff and then sure enough beat me that year you know like i think she picked out two more than me and i'm like how how you know and and then so and that's another point i want to make is it's it's kind of random and then uh the last thing i'll make to segue back to the podcast uh so originally the what the way i used to play it is uh i made out 25 a list of 25 names.Track 2:[16:25] Because you figure maybe half the people hosting Saturday Night Live would be first time hosts. There'll probably be 12 new hosts, so you figure 25 would give us odds.Track 2:[16:38] But for the podcast, just to keep it simple, do a whole 25, yeah, I guess we'll go back and forth talking about who we think is going to host for the first time in the 50th year.Track 3:[16:52] And also, I think we should also just mention very briefly, if we think they're on the road to possibly returning, if they do get asked, and possibly becoming a Hall of Famer. And then as they show up throughout the season, Joe, we'll come back and look at that and talk about their performance and whether it lived up to expectations and whether we see them being asked back and get continuing on the road to see if we're on target. Game so that'll be fun to watch and also one more thing you listeners out there if you have guesses that you want to send our emails at the end because i don't know by heart yet because this is only our second episode so listen to jd he'll tell you our email and let us know who you think the first time timers are going to be i know that the saturday night network already has this up on their Instagram page, and I tried not to look at it too much. I already had my guesses, so I didn't get spoiled or anything. But we'd like to know from our listeners what you think as well, because maybe it's different from what was in the S&N statistics. We could be wrong. They could be wrong.Track 2:[18:08] We could be wrong.Track 3:[18:10] Absolutely. All right. Did you want to start us off, Joe, with your first? First possible post?Track 2:[18:19] Because... This is a perfect example of, you know, who I think should host. I'm going to go in no particular order except for this first person. She has been on my list for years, and it makes me mad every single week that I see she's not hosting. So the fact that, like, who's the first person I want to put on this pod is Zendaya from Spider-Man and Euphoria, and she's just a great actress. Actress she you know is out there she's it she's the new young actress and you know she's been in the spider-man movies for years and i'm like oh well she's on in the spider-man movies the hbo show yeah she's a the new young talent so and then week after week and year after year um just been eluding me and i know she's gonna and i'm not gonna take her off my list until she hosts so that's my first pick.Track 3:[19:24] Oh joe you we're we're simpatico we're simpatico she's so obvious she had two huge hits last year doom 2 and challengers which they which they talked about out on an episode on the Dakota Johnson episode but they didn't have Zendaya last year so Zendaya I always butcher her name I don't know I'm sorry if you're listening to this but I'm sure she is and and and everybody butchers my name so I I hate doing that I I think it might be Zendaya I, she wasn't my number one I do have mine in the order that I think they're they're likely to be asked because i did go more with people that i think they're really going to ask and i think she's okay that they they have to do but i want to yeah i want to do my number one, I think she's obvious. She's been all over the internet.Track 2:[20:26] Okay, yeah.Track 3:[20:27] She is the it girl of summer. You know they always have to do an Olympian in an Olympic year. So you know who I'm talking about.Track 2:[20:36] Okay.Track 3:[20:36] The fabulous gymnastic rubber band that is Simone Biles. Will she come back? Unlikely. We know what the Michael Phelps debacle was like. But he was on everybody's mind. He was all over the internet. She is everywhere. There are memes featuring Simone everywhere. She has a documentary on Netflix and she's got a bunch of medals. So yeah, this is definitely, I think she's a definite, I think she's going to be a September or October host. But I guess only time will tell. You're next.Track 2:[21:15] So, okay. My next pick is the one who is also, Again, kind of similar to Zendaya. He just seems obvious. He's another guy on the rise. I'm not even going to build him up that much. Glenn Powell, he was in the movie Twisters. He was in Top Gun, Maverick. He just looks like a movie star, like a generic. He just looks like with the perfect teeth and everything. Again, this is another example of when you're making out the list and you're seeing who's on the rise, this guy. And so it just, it's almost inevitable that he will. So when I was making up my list, I was like, him. It was like, easy. Like, moving on. Move along.Track 3:[21:58] Yeah. Well, you know, Joe, another point in your favor for Glenn Powell is he cameoed on the Sidney Sweeney episode last season.Track 2:[22:07] That's right.Track 3:[22:09] Now, do we think he's going to be a returning? I feel like echoes of Jacob Lordy. Like, there's going to be a lot of, he's so handsome sketches. Do you think he's?Track 2:[22:19] You know what? I mean, he could be like Chris Hemsworth, where he's like.Track 3:[22:24] Oh, that's true.Track 2:[22:25] A talented actor. And then he could turn around and do the comedian thing. You know? That's true. So, I mean.Track 3:[22:32] Only time will tell.Track 2:[22:33] Here's the, yeah, this is, you know, the weird thing about going off the first timers list is, it's, because how about this? He did Twisters, Top Gun, and a Netflix show, and they all seemed serious. Maybe after he hosts Saturday Night Live, he'll start doing comedies. And then it'll cycle through. Because he's funny in the movies, he's going to be the guy that comes back to host Saturday Night Live. And then lightning in a bottle will strike. And he'll be in that one skit that everyone's talking about that's viral on YouTube. And then it just dominoes from there. All right.Track 3:[23:08] Well, speaking of serious actors who are on the rise, I think he should have been asked a couple of years ago, this actor that I'm going to mention now. But I don't know how they can't ask him because he is playing Warren freaking Michael in Saturday Night, the Jason Reitman movie that if you're listening to this podcast, you know all about. You've watched the trailer the trailers nerdily like joe and i and jd and thomas and jamie i'm sure looks amazing he is terrific he was terrific as a steven spielberg in the fableman's not steven spielberg but we all know wink wink and he just nailed it and i'm.Track 3:[23:57] Super excited because my friend, I have a friend and her husband is a big autograph hunter in Los Angeles. And he actually took pictures with Gabriel and said he's the nicest, nicest, one of the nicest he's ever met. So that makes me even more excited that Gabriel LaBelle is going to be a big star and hopefully be an SNL host. I think he's a gimme. I mean, wouldn't it be great to see him and Lorne in a sketch with a young Lorne and an old Lorne? How hilarious would that be? So I and I think it's I think it's a gimme. I I can't imagine they won't do it, but maybe it'll be another actor from that movie. But it will be somebody in that cast.Track 2:[24:40] He's on my top 25 list. And everything that you said about it being a gimme, because, yeah, it would be great to do a Lorne off where, you know, where it's funny. But it didn't get the right laugh you know yeah very good paul liked it but then again did it really deserve to be in the top in the first half hour you know like just you know because and on top of it they need to promote that movie you know and they need to have an actor from that movie on the show it'd be weird not to you know like you know so yeah and like you said it has to be someone from the movie. Especially someone playing someone else from the movie. It can't just be... I also want to mention that I think it's kind of weird that William Dafoe... He hosted last year, which is around the time when they were filming that movie. So it's like, was he doing research or like, it just seemed anyway, but it would just be weird if they had J.K. Simmons or William Dafoe or someone else, you know, that's in the cast of that movie that doesn't, that's not playing, or I guess they're all playing someone, but I'm just saying it isn't playing.Track 3:[25:56] Not one of the main.Track 2:[25:57] Yeah, but it needs to be someone that's playing a cast member or if not, Lorne. And then, yes, they need to do a Lorne-off or something, and I agree with everything. So – and then I'll move on to my pick, which is – okay. So this one is someone who I think could be in the Hall of Fame, yes, as a host, obviously. And that person is Nick Kroll. I hope I'm saying his name right. You are.Track 3:[26:28] That one I know.Track 2:[26:29] And, yeah, he had his own sketch show. He's friends with John Mulaney. He auditioned for Saturday Night Live. He's talented at doing characters. He's really genuinely funny. And I believe that, yeah, he would be a great host. And then it would just be like, I'm sure he'll be such a great host that he'll be asked to return.Track 3:[26:53] So i agree and he's friends with a lot of the cast already and a lot of them have been on his uh his animated show big mouth yes he's had a lot of snl i think current and past on that show so he he's a he'd be a great yeah i feel like why why hasn't he been asked that's excellent excellent he's.Track 2:[27:17] Very snl adjacent you know yeah.Track 3:[27:20] Right that's an excellent excellent Excellent guess.Track 2:[27:23] You know? So, and then you're next.Track 3:[27:26] All right. Yes, I am. And speaking of funny. Mm-hmm. Uh, this gentleman is a huge fan favorite and it's funny cause I think a lot of us took him very for granted and didn't realize how funny he was until he left. And he kind of, he's been doing things. He had a show. It didn't make it. I think it only made it one season, but now he's coming back and he's coming back to a CSI franchise, CSI origins. And I know it's on CBS and not NBC, but CSI is a big deal. And I think not only that, but he just did some voice work in Inside Out 2, the Pixar movie. That was terrific, if you haven't seen it. And, of course, I'm talking about the absolutely gut-bustingly funny, drunk uncle, Mr. Bobby Moynihan.Track 2:[28:23] Come on!Track 3:[28:24] He's done cameos. he's done cameos he's done cameos let the guy host he'd be so great i think he'd work fantastically with heidi with mikey of obviously with keenan oh yeah give us bobby moynihan in season 50 come on he deserves to host an hour yes.Track 2:[28:44] And then he could be a returner you know hall of famer and all that.Track 3:[28:48] Oh 100 he is.Track 2:[28:50] Universal he's more than drunk uncle uh yeah he does.Track 3:[28:56] All right, Joe, let's do our wishes now. This means people that we think probably not, not likely, but we would love to see it happen. And I'm going to go first if that's okay.Track 2:[29:13] Please, because just on a side note, before the show started, she let it slip, who it might be. And I've been drooling at the mouth waiting for this moment. So let me take another sip of water from the water cooler.Track 3:[29:25] As well i'm going to take a sip too okay.Track 2:[29:30] Go for it.Track 3:[29:31] Because this is a juicy one yes so i i don't know that this is going to happen political political uh nominees, don't get a whole episode they usually just get cameos it happens rarely and when it does it's It's usually a disaster. I will not name any names. But I'm hoping, I'm really hoping, that Kamala and Tim will joint host an episode in maybe late October, just before the election. How great would that be? And how much would we love? We know Maya's coming back. How much would we love to see maya and kamala and tim and whoever is going to play him face off i don't think steve's gonna do it but whoever does it how funny would that be how great would that be how much would the internet break if that happened so that's my wish what do you think joe because.Track 2:[30:42] The other guy hosted you know on his own equal time that's all i'm saying, Okay, so my honorable mention, dream host, who I think, like, you wouldn't think that this guy, like, you wouldn't think this guy would be a Saturday Night Live host, but if he did, I think he would be insanely incredible, and that is Gary Oldman.Track 3:[31:13] Oh, yes!Track 2:[31:15] Ass he plays every different type of character like there's internet memes that show all the different characters he's played in movies over the years like dracula and he was uh commissioner gordon and batman he was in the fifth element and i'm just like imagine putting him on saturday night live with all these wigs and costumes and in in a sketch show where he has free reign to do Not necessarily Free Reign, but where he is able to do different characters in 90 minutes. Let's see him break free. Instead of playing one character per movie, let's see him do multiple characters in 90 minutes.Track 3:[31:59] I agree, Joe. And he's an actor that's known for being so serious. So how much fun would it be to get to see him play with the cast? So a great one to end on.Track 2:[32:11] Yes.Track 3:[32:11] A great one to end on. All right. Well, it looks like it's almost time to put away our water bottles. But before we do, we have to tell you, we got a great one coming up. The SNL Hall of Fame episode number three is a terrific cast member. You want to take it from there, Joe?Track 2:[32:37] Yes, I do. He is someone who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I'll just go right into it. I'm not going to preamble it. It's Garrett Morris. He was very underappreciated when he was a part of the first five years. But then when you saw him, it's like, duh. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because of the first five years. I feel like all of them do. and they all need to be, go through the process, you know, of.Track 3:[33:11] Yes, I agree. And we're, we're going to talk a lot more about this in our episode next week. So please tune in to the SNL Hall of Fame with the fabulous J.D. And Matt and Thomas Senna, who are going to be joined by the awesome Darren Patterson from SNL Nerds. If you haven't listened to SNL Nerds, it's hilarious. Him and John Trumbull are terrific. They break down episodes. They talk about SNL movies. And Darren is a wealth of knowledge, and he's going to share his knowledge of Garrett Morris. He hasn't been on since season three, but the two that he's talked about, Tom Hanks and the other one is Dana Carvey. Oh, how could I forget him? One of my favorites. So I know Darren's going to be a great guest. I know we're going to have a lot to talk about next week because Garrett's an amazing cast member. So until then.Track 2:[34:12] Go ahead.Track 3:[34:14] Until then, we're leaving the water cooler, right, Joe?Track 2:[34:16] Yes, putting my paper cup into the little bin that we have here, that little two-foot-high garbage can that you always see at Office Max.Track 3:[34:26] Yep, and my cup is joining you. All right. So until next week, this is Shari and… Joe.Track 2:[34:32] We'll see you next time.Track 3:[34:34] Next time.Track 2:[34:35] All right.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Matt, Thomas, and jD are joined by friend of the podcast, TV graphs own, Jamie Burwood. Before her conversation with Thomas, Matt and jD go through some Cheri Oteri trivia. Enjoy. Transcript:Track 2:[0:43] Thank you so much, Doug DeNance. It is a great pleasure to be joining you all here outside the SNL Hall of Fame. If you wouldn't mind, as you cross the threshold, please take advantage of the mat out front and wipe those feet. The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair where each episode we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer, and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Consideration once the nominees have been announced we turn to you the listener to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall and that's how we play the game it's just that simple this week we are joined by our friend jamie burwood to discuss the bona fides of sherry o terry but before we do that we are going to talk to our friend matt ardill and matt i've got a question for you my friend.Track 3:[1:44] Are you ready because i've got two words for you sherry o terry matt what have you got well sherry o terry is five foot five foot two born september 19th 1962 in what i what appears to be a snl hotbed upper derby pennsylvania the hometown of tina fey yeah so water there yeah yeah it's just i i guess there's something about that suburban experience that uh makes you crave uh making people laugh um or at least distracting yourself from being there uh she grew up around music her father was a nashville record producer and worked at amn records before joining the groundlings she earned 92 acting credits six writing credits five producer credits and four soundtrack credits um yeah she has played everything from uh the sidekick of inspector gadget to an animated tooth fairy uh she she is one of the uh folks from snl to go on to broadway having starred in the production of Musical the Musical.Track 3:[3:06] And is a friend of Paul Reuben's, playing husband and wife on an episode of Ally McBeal. Went on to be nominated for the Best Dance Sequence at MTV's Movie Awards and the Teen Choice Award for Best Comedian. Well, that's some cool stuff so far. Anything else on Terry O'Terry? No she's kept it pretty private she's one of those uh snl folks who's gone on to uh just just uh step back and and enjoy the show well we ask you to do the same step back and enjoy the show as we head to our friend thomas senna thomas take it away, All right.Track 4:[4:17] Guys. Thank you so much. You're so excited for this episode. Hello, and welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame conversation portion of the episode. Today, I am joined by an amazing guest, a mainstay at the SNL Hall of Fame, for sure. He's been advocated for a lot of great SNL, current SNL Hall of Famers, actually. So, like, what, Will Ferrell? Jamie, how many people have you gotten into the SNL Hall of Fame? I think you're on a pretty good run. I'm trying to think. We've definitely done quite a few episodes. I'd have to look to see what the actual track record is to know the percentage. Yeah, Will Ferrell got in. Yeah, and you were on for Molly? I was on for Molly. I don't think she got in, though. Did she? Well, Molly's a new inductee. Oh, okay. In the latest. Yes. All right. So Molly got in. Christopher Walken.Track 4:[5:09] Yes, that was my episode. So you're on a pretty good hot streak. Okay, okay. I think. Nice. So I think you're the perfect person to come on and chat about Sherry O'Terry. But I'm going to formally welcome you, Jamie Burwood. Welcome back to the SNL Hall of Fame. How are you doing? How have you been? I'm doing good. It's great to be back here this summer. Yeah, just having a good start to the summer, doing some beach time coming up. But yeah, it's been great. Happy to be here. Yeah, beach time for all of us. That's what this summer is about. It's beach time 2024. So I'm glad you're partaking as well. Is there anything you'd like to plug up top before we get started here? Talking about Sherry? Yeah, I feel like TV show graphs is still my go-to account on TV.Track 4:[6:03] Twitter, Instagram, all of the places, tvshowgraphs.com. Yeah, it has the whole library of a lot of the TV-related data deep dives I've done in the past, exploring a few new topics coming up soon. So hopefully as some of the summer travel slows down, there'll be some new stuff up there soon. But yeah, otherwise I kind of have just been chilling the last few months. So enjoying the start of the summer.Track 4:[6:27] Well, I think you've earned it. Your graphs and the website, side that's like quite the rabbit hole like a true tv fan could spend a lot of time going down that rabbit hole it's pretty cool so you you deserve it any sort of break you get you definitely deserve it jamie so today our nominee like i mentioned sherry o'terry right in your will house jamie like i said you've covered the air a few times here on the snl hall of fame and of course today talking about um somebody who's beloved to us sherry o'terry uh jamie for What was it about Sherry O'Terry that may have first got your attention when you saw her? Yeah, I feel like the zaniness and how memorable her characters are. I feel like she's somebody that, in my opinion, doesn't get talked about enough. And in some ways, she is well-recognized. She has her best of collection. I feel like people do acknowledge her role in that era of SNL and just how important it is. But there's just something really captivating about her wackiness and the way that she commits to all of these characters that she does. And I think for me, that was really what drew me in. Like, there's just something about watching a sketch with her where you can't quite look away in a good way, I think.Track 4:[7:47] Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. And I think sometimes, maybe sometimes I feel like I might throw around the term underrated or underappreciated a lot. But I honestly think in Sherry's case, it fits. And I have, I guess there are theories floating out there as to why she might be underappreciated. But if you actually look at her work, look at the type of performer that she was, I do think she probably should be talked about more and be held in higher regard than she is. So I really do think there's something to that, Jamie. It's not just like throwing out there like, oh, she's a little underappreciated. Like with Sherry O'Terry, I truly, truly think she is. So neither of us say that lightly. Absolutely. Yeah, I feel like she's somebody who...Track 4:[8:32] Just her role in that era, I hope that people recognize. And just, we've talked a little bit in the past in some of the earlier episodes, but just the role that she had in showing how funny female comedians on SNL can be. And just this willingness to go all out and commit fully. And I don't think she's the only one in her cast who does that. I feel like Molly, Will, many others embody that. But there's something to me special about Sherry in just the way that she went all in on things. And she's somebody who you could put her alongside Will Ferrell. And I would argue she doesn't get overshadowed. They match each other. And the chemistry just builds upon each other.Track 4:[9:19] And I feel like she had this knack for kind of elevating some of these sketches where she was working alongside other greats, other Hall of Famers. And she not only holds her own but just makes things so much better yeah i mean when you're trying to revive snl and we've talked about this before prior to season 21 they did almost a full house cleaning like molly was a carryover norm was a carryover there may be a few care but it was pretty much cleaning house from season 20 to season 21 and sherry i always thought crucial like almost a performer like that's necessary for the revival remind people just like how just how much that season 21 cast just revived this show yeah absolutely i feel like it was just a shift in a different kind of comedy at a time where the show really needed it right like it was away from that kind of like meaner vibe which had its time and place on the show but i feel like there were just aspects that were starting to feel a little bit tired, starting to feel not really keeping up with what people wanted to see. And I feel like the tone of the show really shifted into this very, like.Track 4:[10:40] Character centric we got lots of the great greatest of all time in my opinion recurring sketches recurring characters in this era and i feel like sherry in particular really embodied that kind of character actress character comedian and just not being afraid to be be silly and people responded to that really well i think and i think that was a big part of why why that era is remembered so fondly yeah i think it toward the end there it got exhausting just like there's a lot of that mean comedy a lot of the bad boy quote-unquote stuff and then we entered a stage you're right of like character driven a lot of goofy like a lot of goofball kind of comedy was very refreshing and sherry was such such a vital part of that as far as her path to snl cliff's notes not a ton honestly sherry seems a little private uh not a ton of known about her personal life she's from philadelphia the philadelphia area moved to la in her 20s she's a groundling so she did a lot of quality sketch training before starting at snl her audition was really great i don't know if you had a chance to see it it's on youtube uh so i encourage everyone to check that out but the her audition was like eight minutes and and what she showed in her audition she did three characters that ended up on the show but right away you can see like why Lorne and everybody else who saw that edition were like, we got to have Sherry. So I don't know, Jamie, if you've ever seen the audition. I haven't.Track 4:[12:08] Yeah, I do like them. I haven't watched hers. If I haven't, it's definitely been a while, so I'll have to go back and do that. Yeah, it's really fun. So she had a great audition. You could see why she got chosen for the cast. So she starts off 1995, season 21, Sherry O'Terry, Will Ferrell, the rest of the crew. So I want to get into it. like.Track 4:[12:30] What characters or sketches, Jamie, do you go to when you think about Sherry O'Terry? Yeah, so let me talk about a few characters because I feel like, honestly, most of my favorite Sherry sketches are around some of her well-known characters. And there are a few that are not, which we can talk about, too. But I feel like for me, a few of the ones that stand out, Rita Delvecchio, that like grouchy Philadelphia is the vibe woman who just is, I don't know if mean is the right word, but just that typical like kind of street smart lady.Track 4:[13:11] She's kind of like a little grumpy, but she's pretty likable at the same time. She's kind of that old lady who does who's like no nonsense she doesn't take any crap from the name especially the neighborhood kids i'm going on the porch for five minutes a piece the first one who calls me gets my slipper okay you kids got the whole street to play ball on but you're gonna play in front of my house that's okay because i keep it now okay i keep it it's mine now all right have your mother come get it i hear you smart ass but there's something very likable about her jamie like it's almost do you get the sense when you watch her do rita del vacchio that it's like a one-woman play it is i just for some for some reason that character in particular and like she does all sorts of different brands of like out there characters but for some reason like that what i just feel like is a connection and just work she does it so well and And the writing in most of the ones that she's done for her, I feel like, have been really solid. I feel like they tend to incorporate the host in a really fun way. Just kind of showing her amidst the neighborhood, I feel like.Track 4:[14:23] You then see kind of the host pop up and either like the neighbor or a kid or like all of these different like characters amidst her life. And it always just like feels really natural. Like I'm always happy when one of those sketches pops up in an episode. I'm like, Oh, we get to spend some time with Rhea. This is great. Yeah, no, it's amazing world building. And sometimes you're right. They'll, they'll work in the host and everything. And every now and then a character will come by a lot of times. It's just her standing there a lot of times by her front door, just like yelling at a neighbor. And she's and sherry's doing this such a good job of filling in the other person's dialogue there so it's just her on the screen but she's doing such a good job of making it a conversation.Track 4:[15:04] That only on screen only she's taking part in like she's so skilled at that and the whole role building this is something that she auditioned with she had this character sherry started building this whole world uh at the groundlings that that's just such a testament to her her talents is like a creative mind i think absolutely yeah i love the one with the the screen door and like the kids who are coming up to the screen door repeatedly that one always sticks sticks with me for some reason and you're right that is another example where it's like yes you have kids coming up to the door but she is like owning the comedy in each of those scenes and is having her like wild reactions to each one of those people coming up so completely yeah yeah and And she even made, in that particular installment, she even made kind of a boring host, Steve Forbes, like a very boring host. She actually made him, incorporated him really well into the sketch. She ended up stealing one of the kids' money that was coming up to take donations. She ended up taking the money and all of that. Yeah, that was a really great one with Steve Forbes. She puts a lot of love into that character. I think that's a great first choice.Track 4:[16:08] Yeah, she definitely does. And then I feel like for my second choice, and there's so many. But I just love Nadine and in terms of like when I was in high school and this era was I was in high school in the early 2000s ish so right around this era um there the whole like Simadown now, catchphrase was huge like I just remember friends I don't even know like when people first started saying it. I don't even think I really realized where it was coming from. And just like people embodying this character that she did on SNL only to like later recognize that connection. Excuse me, excuse me. My husband's been in a motorcycle accident. I think he broke his wrist. Yeah, I can't move it. It's swelling up really badly. Okay, everybody simmer down now.Track 4:[17:06] Listen, I would love to simmer down now, but you see my wrist is shattered. So I would encourage I encourage you to admit me now. Sir, your sass is unappreciated here. So before your obelisk becomes shattered, I suggest you fill out these forms and have a seat and then simmer down. That's correct. I love all of the Nadine sketches. I feel like the one with Garth Brooks is probably my favorite, like returning things at the desk there for the name of the store. But to me, that's a classic one and just, it's so fun. It's so fun. Yeah, yeah, I love it. You're right. That whole, the Simudan now, like just totally spread like wildfire. Always like people used to always do the impression where she's trying to start the car. Yes.Track 4:[17:59] Yeah, like, and then it goes Simudan. Yeah, there's all kinds of like different ways you could say Simudan now if you want to get creative. That definitely stuck. She only did it three times. Yep. And it caught on so well. Yeah, I also love the line, like Donna Summer and how does her name appear in the phone book, like Summer, Donna, like that, that to me is just great, great writing, great delivery, so much. Yeah, all those strained ways to make the connection to Simma down now. I love it.Track 4:[18:30] There's two, Jamie, that kind of when I think of Sherry O'Terry, I really connect with. And I'm going to talk about the one that she did the most, Barbara Walters. Yeah. She did that one 21 times, I think, last summer when the SNN, our friends at the SNN, did their character countdown. I believe Barbara Walters ended up on the list for good reason. I think that this is her best character. And something that Sherry said that she worked really hard at, she studied Barbara Walters quite a bit when she found out she was doing this. And there's been Barbara Walters impressions done on the show before. I think this is the quintessential one. What do you what do you say about her Barbara Walters? It's so good and like I Have heard that Sherry somebody who's nervous about like the impression aspect of the show coming in right and it's Not necessarily what you like maybe think of right away with her But this is I agree one of the all-time best things that she did over her time in the show I feel like it's a perfect example to me of an impression that like I.Track 4:[19:36] Is very, like, draws from the real person very well, but then also, like, plays things up in a way that gives it a life of its own so that it's not just, like, purely a copycat, but, like, becomes funny in its own right. Fidel Castro and I were roommates my freshman year in college. And girlfriends, let me tell you, he may be brilliant, he may be stubborn, but what I remember most is that he had some funky B.O. Whenever I see Fidel Castro, I just think he looks like an extra from MASH. I mean, you know what I mean? With that hat. Don't look at me.Track 4:[20:17] I just love any of the like VIEW segments where she popped up. I feel like those were always just a good time and just like meant for comedy, meant for parody. It was great. Yeah, I loved the VIEW one specifically when she would get mad at Debbie Martinopoulos. And she would do things like she one time she told her to go get in the cage that was a classic moment for me when she's like enough she's like go get get in the cage go now and then debbie monotonopoulos would just go do it and and this is just how she would kind of erupt at her you that was so funny and then she would uh reference like casually spending time with famous people and historical figures like i was in the hot tub with fidel castro when i found out that or just like the name dropping is wonderful.Track 4:[21:05] This Barbara Walters was one that could be used in so many different settings, Jamie. I give points for that. If you develop a character or do an impression, and it could be used on a talk show or weekend update, or this is such a versatile character.Track 4:[21:20] I agree. And again, it speaks to the theme of when she pops up and you're excited to see that character. And i think it's one that i don't think anyone could really get sick of or maybe somebody could but i certainly did not get sick of this one ever like i could see this every episode in her era and be happy with that yeah so this might be like if i was going to show one person an example of why i love sherry it might actually be her barbara walters like like this one makes me so happy for sure like amongst many that make me so happy and i'm sure that make you so happy you know like what what's what what's another character that people just can't miss for sherry yeah i feel like colette reardon is one that we should talk about the prescription pill addict lipstick smeared on the face and this is true for a lot of sherry's characters but i feel like there's just like an aesthetic to like the character she commits to and like a lot of times in similar outfits, makeup, just like you, you see that person and you're like, okay, I get what this is trying to be. And then Sherry just.Track 4:[22:36] It to to another level it's a good thing that the phone's on the fritz because sometimes i gots to shoot methadrine so i can fire up my toro leaf blower to clean my front lawn falls a bitch dick i don't care how you slice it methadrine you ever try a rake.Track 4:[22:57] Oh really any poop after five hours of methadrine fueled leaf blowing i get kind of confused and start making long distance phone calls i don't know how many of the um of the clut sketches there were i know she appeared a few times maybe on weekend update and then a few standalone sketches maybe like five okay yeah yeah yeah it felt like more honestly such a lived-in character yeah i feel like super memorable one um there was one where i.Track 4:[23:28] Feel like a phone is involved like you have pills coming out of the phone and she's trying to eat the pills which amazing physical comedy just this type of character i feel like she does really well and not in a hateful way like it's a character that you kind of have to like walk that fine line with right because it's like a little bit of a extreme scenario but you come away just being like oh my gosh this character is fabulous and and laughing all over well that's one thing that you know when i had john schneider on for the kristen wigg episode and we talked about when she would do characters uh and impressions that she didn't come at it in a mean way so we used as an example like target lady for kristen and wig that could have been done mean but you can tell there was love put into that and i think somebody like colette you know she she's whacked out on all these pills and and her hair's messed up messy lipstick she's always trying to hit on whoever and uh but like there's still an element of just like she sounds it seems like sherry has love for that character she's not trying to.Track 4:[24:36] To totally be mean to those kind of people or whatever. It's just like they almost... All of our characters almost seem likable, even as wacky as they are. That's such a gift, I think. It is. It really is. I feel like it's...Track 4:[24:51] You kind of see the other level of some of these characters and you watch them and you laugh, but you also just are like, oh, I want to spend time in this world and with this person and just see what antics they're up to. And she did that so well. Yeah, absolutely. This is one of the prime examples to me of a comparison that I've made with Sherry. Kind of think she always reminded me of Mike Myers on screen.Track 4:[25:16] Like just her energy. energy uh if she was in a sketch she was best as the the focus the focal point of the sketch she and mike both like every now and then they would kind of play the straight character the background but that's not what they did if it was a mike myers sketcher it was a sherry o'terry sketch i think or maybe she had a co-pilot and will ferrell sometimes or molly or something but she has this she had this mike myers energy about her that i see pop up in characters like Colette I don't know if I'm off base if we love to make comparisons as SNL fans but Mike Myers and Sherry Oteri was always one that that struck me yeah I can definitely see that like the the leadership in the like just like you said sure you could put her in a background role but it's it's almost a waste like you you want to see her in that that spotlight and I I feel like she has that kind of like magnetic quality yeah for sure um well what's uh what's another what's next on your list yeah i feel like we gotta talk spartan cheerleaders we talked okay during the episode but i again i feel like if you ask people on the street about sherry especially like more a casual fan or someone who.Track 4:[26:35] Maybe not like dedicated to this era as much but that, recurring sketch I feel like is just cemented into pop culture history in a really cool way and I feel like whenever I go back and watch some of these it, am impressed at just how her and Will feed off of each other. It almost feels like improv in some ways. Like, oh, yeah, as much as they're like, the writing is great, not to discount that, like, it just feels like they are in the moment just having fun as two performers, just like.Track 4:[27:11] Each going off of each other. And it, there's just an energy to these ones to me that I feel like is hard to top yeah you're right and i think no that's actually a credit to the writing that doesn't discount in any way i think paula pell who helped them write these was probably the third spartan cheerleader in these in these sketches like she did an amazing job but you're right like like uh showcasing sherry's talents unreal physical performer.Track 4:[27:36] She the way sometimes that she would just leap into will ferrell's arms and they would she would do this weird pose and or will ferrell would just like carry her around in a weird way like sherry Sherry was just fearless, such an amazing, fearless performer. I hope that when people see the cheerleader sketches, they're just not focused on Will, because Sherry's arguably topping his performance in this, honestly. I always thought Sherry was the better performer in these sketches specifically. I agree, actually. And I'm not sure how that dynamic played out in terms of, like, Like, was Will tempering in, like, letting her really be the super zany? And, I mean, he was pretty zany, too, so it's all relative. But I feel like that's the thing that surprises me the most re-watching these is, like, everyone knows, like, Will Ferrell. He's huge. He's, like, had such a big career. People think, okay, Spartan Triller is him. But you watch these and you're like, oh, my gosh, Sherry was killing it. And, again, not only, like, matching him but in some cases, like, going beyond. And that's really cool because I think, again, not everybody...Track 4:[28:46] Thinks of that but when you watch it it's there it really is oh my god ariana can you believe summer's over already i know craig i already missed my summer job at kenny rogers roasters i'm still getting the newsletter though.Track 4:[29:03] Well i'm glad my lifeguarding job is over i did not enjoy taking off my shirt no no craig tomorrow morning we are going to be real spartan cheerleaders this has got to be our year, It was an awesome idea to practice all night. Yeah, and my parents will never know I'm gone. I put my brother's blow-up doll underneath my sheets. Oh. Yeah, she would do these little things as Ariana, like, to give the character neurosis. Like, if it was a little sigh or nervous laughter or something like that, she was very expressive in her face and just the little, like, breaths that she would take. Like, something as a sketch performer, I always admire when I notice those little things, those little small beats that you know sherry thought about does naturally whatever but they're out there and uh yeah this is um if if not barbara walters maybe the cheer maybe ariana the cheerleader uh could be up there as far as like the quintessential sherry especially physically like as a physical performer i'll put ariana right up there and then one other recurring her in character that I want to make sure we talk about. And I think we only got this one a handful of times, but Althea, the little child who in one sketch is on a plane and another is on a bus, Sherry just going full-on annoying.Track 4:[30:27] Child in her layers of pink jackets and clothing and just embodying that... Hyper, chaotic, says-anything kid. I especially love the one with Chevy Chase as the pilot. I feel like to me that's the one that stands out. Dr. Burke, we're going to visit my Aunt Jane in Colorado, where it's called. My Aunt Jane has a life partner. Her name is Judy. They're not married. They're life partners. Life partners! Life partners! Althea, Althea, come on out. Watch the controls now. With my nose will any flight attendant please report to the cockpit any flight attendant please report to the cockpit run to the cockpit.Track 4:[31:21] That's the one actually uh the althea on a plane she actually auditioned with that too so that's like part of her audition really yeah she had the cap and everything like the whole the glasses like it was fully formed in the audition like it didn't seem like they changed much at all from the audition to to the air it does feel like one that like i feel like there's certain characters where they feel like okay this person like cared to develop this and it has that kind of like personal touch and i can absolutely see that with this one right it just seems like a character that she knows that she can embody very naturally um yeah this is just a really fun And I feel like, especially in the plane one with Chevy, the deadpan-ness of his character and the annoying.Track 4:[32:11] Just chattering away child of her character is just, it's such a fun, fun match and made for an awesome sketch. Yeah, for sure. and she would say things like not just weird things as a child but she would say like really precocious like things that like an adult would say or maybe she's repeating what an adult told her but but she would kind of like surprise the audience a little bit or the person she was interacting with by saying something really mature and adult like something beyond like you shouldn't know that or you shouldn't be saying that that's kind of interesting that you're saying that so i like that layer to this character it's a really fun one agreed yeah no i i feel like this is one that just feels very like true to sherry and like everything that she embodies yeah there was a uh along the lines i think of like the colette or alfea there was a one-off i don't know if you had a chance to see this one um her name's roberta it was sherry did this like in the the sixth episode of her first season. So she played somebody named Roberta and it was this dad work colleague who invited herself over to Thanksgiving dinner.Track 4:[33:22] So it was just very weird energy. She was very inappropriate. I'm surprised this actually wasn't a recurring character because this happened really early on in Sherry's career. But she just said these weird things that she thought were just normal, but everybody at the table was like, Oh my gosh, I think, I want to say Jennifer Aniston was in the sketch. But y'all should go look up Roberta because it's like a spiritual cousin to somebody like Colette or Althea or even Rita, like one of these just crazy characters. So I wanted to throw out that a one-off. Oh, that's so exciting. Are Sarah jetting off to Paris? Have you ever been to Scranton?Track 4:[34:06] Nope. Don't count it out. The beauty of the skyline alone made me do a double take. I stayed at the airport Ramada. Ooh, Ramada. It was funny because they hadn't washed the sheets. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How is that funny? You didn't let me complete the tale. Oh, wow. The other one-off one that I love is with John Goodman playing Adele as the, like, flirty office character. Character just like basically coming in kind of dressed in her like scantily clad outfit um, saying things that are very obvious innuendo and then like going the next mile of explaining every little thing like this this one to me is just like really funny and again great great writing and like all of the different like innuendos that they throw out there, but she super committed, just like very physically on every person in the sketch. It was a fun one. Yeah. Well, this boy's got one thing in his pants that I'd like to wrap my sweaty little mitts around. I'm talking about putting my hands on your penis.Track 4:[35:33] Yes, and again, there's no confusion there. Adele, we got it. Thanks. Well, speaking of getting it, I'm gonna head over to the old icebox and get my oyster platter.Track 4:[35:48] What you looking at, fellas? this is a broke yeah she's totally owning the room in that too like like the office like she's just kind of making her way going to uh everybody i think i remember at one point she um says something suggestive to rachel dratch yes and rachel dratch is like i'm just an intern, i'm just a temp yeah why are you doing this and so yeah yeah that was a really funny one yeah that probably could have been a recurring character yeah as well i could have seen like obvious innuendo lady or yeah like in different settings like we had the office setting and put her in other like various professional worlds i feel like would have been yeah for sure uh there's what if so i i think i said something like she puts a lot of love like it doesn't seem like she, dislikes her any of her characters if there was one where she it was more so making fun of a type and maybe you could sense like there's some sort of meanness underneath the surface it was with the morning latte one yeah oh yeah we gotta talk about that yeah yeah morning latte she and will the dynamic duo again they first did this and i think in season 23 and then they just did a run of them uh famous ones with like chris farley was in a was in a really famous one just a lot of like hyper dumb energy jamie i love these ones yeah these these are great i feel like just that.Track 4:[37:14] Perfect morning talk show shtick and I know we've seen that from like a few cast members over the years but something about this one and this pairing we talked a little bit about like the improv vibe a little but I get that from this as well I'm just like two great people sitting down having fun I know Sherry has mentioned this as like one of her favorite recurring sketches at at some point and it it does just feel like fun fun riffing and just a little bit different from some of her other characters um in a way that's that's kind of fun like yeah crazy but like in a in a different way and more of that like contain talk show still weird but different kind of weird, yeah they're just so funny like they were uninformed about what was going on in the world So we're recording this the day after Joe Biden announced he was stepping down as the Democratic nominee. This is something that the morning latte people would be surprised by the following morning. Or they'd be like, did you hear that Joe Biden? They would just say it with such surprise because they don't follow the news, but they're supposed to be talking about a part of this morning show. They have terrible taste in movies. Cass, how was your weekend? Did you and Eli finally see Good Will Hunting? No, I did something even better. We saw Spice World. Ooh.Track 4:[38:41] That's supposed to be good. Frank, have you seen Spice World yet? I don't know what that is. Oh, well, I'll tell you. You know what I found myself saying after I saw this film? Move over, hard day's night. No kidding. Yes. No, I'm saying these gals are fabulous. That's what I've heard. Yeah, they have got more talent than anything out of Britain or England. Wow. Wow. Wow. Do you like when sketches have like, familiar beats within the sketch how is that for you as a viewer i i do really like that actually i feel like they're i don't know if it's like the comfort or just the style of i don't mind that at all as long as the the jokes are there to kind of hold it up still i i like that and i feel like for this one in particular there was something about that just like kind of.Track 4:[39:31] Sim like i don't know if that's the right word but just like not quite there a little bit like like you said, in their own worlds, combining that with the talk show format was enough to me. Sometimes you don't have to try to reinvent the wheel or do something crazy. It worked because the performers were great. And I think that's a testament to Sherry and to the cast. For sure. They would always involve their producer. So a lot of times the host would play. So John Goodman, Chris Farley, they would involve the producer. I love the bit where Will would say a word and sherry would interrupt him and confidently give a definition that was wrong and she would just say it so confidently like and of course that means this and then will would say no like i just i yeah i love those beats they did a perfect caricature of those cheesy morning show i was part of a morning zoo radio show so i can kind of relate a little bit to that this is something you don't think it's talked about enough and maybe within like snl fan community sure but like i I feel like there needs to be just, like, a giant reel of all of these, like, just great quotes and great moments from this. I feel like it holds up. And sure, some of the pop culture stuff is very much a relic of the time, but the jokes and the...Track 4:[40:48] Dim-wittedness of these characters and how funny that can be i think does really hold up yeah yeah absolutely go back and like deep dive like binge on these morning lattes i found some on tiktok so i googled search and then they came up on tiktok a lot i've been seeing that more and more for snl clips like and i'm i'm not a big tiktoker but i am like okay this is this is kind of refreshing to me that like that's out there in another way for people to kind of discover moments from the show's years past. Yeah, I don't know the TikToks very well, but if they have a lot of SNL sketches, I'll probably visit a lot more. Yeah.Track 4:[41:26] She did another, we talked about the Barbara Walters impression. She did another impression that really stood out to me, but I want to give the floor to you. I want to see if our brains align with maybe the next one that's on your mind. I'm just kind of curious. A little experiment here, Jamie. So what do you got for us next? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, my, this one's probably going to be, I think the only other one I had for a recurring that I definitely wanted to talk about was Zimmerman's. Okay. I don't think that's what yours is, because you were saying yours is an impression, right? Yeah, exactly. But I want to hear your thoughts on the Zimmerman's, though. Oh, I mean, the Zimmerman's, gosh, so, so fun. So we have her and Chris Kattan as this like super always breaking out into very inappropriate over-the-top sexual moments and just like can't keep their hands off of each other and, these are just so funny to me like going from the like sexually charged madness to nothingness and to often like blaming the other person in the room like the other couple or whoever else is around in the sketch for like, oh, you guys are inappropriate, or oh, how dare you, like, I feel like that, that in some cases was like the, the conclusion, but the...Track 4:[42:46] Just these moments of like kind of like one upmanship of the just how over the top like sexual energy how much they can bring to the table was just so genius so fun to watch and to re-watch like i feel like if folks haven't revisited these in a while they to me really hold up in terms of the the physical comedy and like just some of the moments and just how some stuff that i'm actually like okay you got that on on tv i know obviously it's late at night and that's the business of snl but um yeah some pretty like vulgar stuff i feel like they got in there which which was fun they did i know it was pretty risque and chris katan's a cast member who i've had a mixed kind of relationship as a viewer with i wasn't always the biggest chris katan fan but i think sherry brought some good parts of chris katan out in these sketches they have a a similar energy so i can see how their kind of energies play off each other well even though i think i really think sherry's a much better sketch performer than chris katan had better snl career but i think she brought out the good parts of chris katan yeah in these that's why i do like watching these agreed yeah i feel like that was a pairing that i enjoyed.Track 4:[43:58] Seeing and i have a similar kind of thing with chris katan of like different doses or different moments is like the right amount for me but i do feel like there's a little bit of a a parallel to me i do hear them sometimes get talked about in like similar conversations and just as some parallels i think with with the roles they played um and just their like relationship with the show itself but this one to me is just like taking those parallels and.Track 4:[44:29] Like putting it to good use because there could be a world where and sometimes this did happen like both of them was too much for one sketch but this is like you're pairing them romantically and like telling them to just go all at it and have fun with it and it it works yeah no i completely agree this is worth a deep dive for a lot of snl fans this is fun a fun revisit and it captures the era a lot because we were talking about like goofball sketches coming off the heels of of not so goofball maybe more mean stuff like yeah so this is like a good example of kind of that goofball energy she did an impression that.Track 4:[45:05] Judge judy oh yeah yeah i really really love she played judge judy like perfectly no nonsense tough lady um fun interplay between her and tracy morgan as the bailiff uh so i really enjoyed her judge duty judy i thought it did great justice to the real judge judy hey hey hey hey look at me look at me i'll take a pig to the butcher when i want to eat baloney. Got it? Hey, got me? Hot judge, cold cuts. All right, Miss Diamond, what sort of training do you have? What's your background as a clown? I never took no courses, but my mother really encouraged me. Whenever the circus came to town, she would drop me off and leave me there for a few days.Track 4:[45:49] Did your mother teach you how to make those disgusting animal balloons? No, they are my own design, tight ass. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey i'm the only tight ass in this courtroom it's right here right here okay yeah i gotta go back in and watch because that's what i i didn't watch for my my rewatch here but i remember yeah from from years past so um yeah if that one is available easily i'll i'll revisit that one again i think that a lot of them are on tiktok so like just the little beats like she came up with little sayings that were funny she would say things like i'll take a pig to the butcher or when I want to eat bologna or I'll grind the organ when I want the monkey to dance and just like these little Judge Judy-isms. Judge Judy actually came on as herself one time and I thought that was pretty fun. Like sometimes I'm hit or miss on like when the actual person comes on. But I think Sherry...Track 4:[46:43] Sherry reacted pretty funny to the real Judge Judy. And she kind of interjected sometimes. And Judge Judy would tell her to go away. And so I thought that was fun. So I think Judge Judy, she did about five of them. I think so. So I think it's worth a revisit for Sherry O'Terry. Another really good impression, I think, Judge Judy. So Jamie, post-SNL, Sherry O'Terry. So not a ton. So she did guest appearances here and there. She was in Shrek the Third, Grown Ups 2. who I'm a big Curb Your Enthusiasm fan, so she was in a memorable episode of Curb for me. A lot of voice acting for animated shows. She was in Scary Movie, the first one, but she never found a project to lead. So do you think it was like a missed opportunity by studios or did something about her style not translate post-SNL? Yeah, it's an interesting one. I feel like her comedy on the show was very much going all in on these zany wacky characters and I could see that leading to a situation of how do we actually take this and put this in more of a film or TV, outside of sketch comedy role I think that, is part of it I know she's talked a little bit about how she.Track 4:[48:02] On SNL it was about comedy first as opposed to like acting outside of sketch comedy and how people have a tendency to kind of like then put you in that lane and i i think that that may be part of it she's someone who like when she does pop up though i always really enjoy seeing her and like curb is a perfect example she's great on that um she had a guest star yeah exactly yeah she popped in on crazy ex-girlfriend which is one of my my favorite shows like was was happy to see her there um so I I'm okay with that and I don't know what like her goals are like what she wants or wanted from her career but I am okay that some cast members aren't like.Track 4:[48:51] Blockbuster every month kind of vibe that that's not the direction their career took like i.Track 4:[48:58] Like seeing her when she has pop up i hope we continue to see those little bits and pieces and i do love her in the comedy roles and and i don't know if that's again what she wants or if she's wanting to was wanting to expand beyond that but i'm happy having her pop up in some of these great shows from time to time no i completely agree like they're not all going to be will ferrell and just take the like be a blockbuster movie star it's not gonna happen with every uh cast member so i'm completely with you i think the thing that maybe is more unfortunate that's impacted her legacy on snl amongst fans is i don't think she's come back to snl yeah like really at all since she left the show in 2000 and i think that kind of sucks jamie i think that's unfortunate i don't know particular reasons why i've kind of heard maybe some stuff But I don't know about you, but I think we're missing out on like Sherry O'Terry not coming back to the show. Agreed. I feel like she's less integrated to like the click of SNL where you see, okay, this person has a show. They're going to bring in all their SNL friends. And you just see this kind of world.Track 4:[50:05] And there can be many reasons for that. Again, I know there are like different theories of like, oh, she was tough to work with or this and that. And, like, I personally have kind of tried to give her the benefit of the doubt among that kind of discourse just because I don't know what happens. I haven't – nothing that's been horrible where I'm like, oh, my gosh, we cannot talk about this person in the history of SNL. I feel like she is somebody who –.Track 4:[50:34] Again, is not super connected with, like, some of the other folks in the show, and I don't know why, and I don't even know that, like, I could. There may be valid reasons for that. There may be invalid reasons. I don't know. I guess what I will say is, like, it's a bummer in the sense of, like, I would love to see her come and host, and she would be a phenomenal host.Track 4:[50:54] So if those circumstances change and she does become more integrated and we get to see more of her in that context that would be an amazing bonus but also if it's a situation where she did her time and that was a period in her life and now she's doing other things i'm okay with that too but yeah yeah the more sherry the better yeah right i know and i don't want to it's hard to speak to like the dynamics between her and her cast members because we weren't there we don't know one thing that she has said though she said she was nervous a lot around the office and she said she would get really nervous before sketches she was nervous during the week so she said she was like this ball of nerves yeah when she was at snl she craved the approval from lorn she really did she she told a story about how norm had to kind of talk her down before a sketch or something like like she just was always just this ball of nerves and maybe she was so nervous that like it kind of prevented her from forging those tight bonds and because i would love like we see dratch come back we see molly shannon we you know sherry o'terry was such a significant arguably bigger than like a dratch or somebody like that but i mean do you think like her not coming back has hurt her legacy a little bit i think it it makes her maybe less known or less talked about in like the fabric of the history of the show to me it doesn't change the like legacy of of what she did for the years and the seasons that she was on the show and doesn't diminish the work.Track 4:[52:23] It maybe contributes to this kind of underrated vibe that comes across because I feel like.Track 4:[52:31] As a result of not being in some of those places, she does get talked about less. And so then when she is talked about, it's like, oh, wait, don't forget about Sherry. She was amazing, too, and also part of redefining this era. So I think that's where I see the connection. Yeah, I'm with that. I think our discussion here hopefully has caused people to go back and remember and just kind of say, like, oh, yeah, Sherry Oteri, she actually was that great. So hopefully this can go towards serving that. So now's the time, part of the show, where you kind of speak to the voters, you speak to the audience, you're speaking to the water cooler.Track 4:[53:08] And, I don't know, Jamie, tell them, why should SNL fans still hold Sherry in high regard as a great cast member? Absolutely, yeah. So Sherry was part of this crucial era of redefining SNL, saving SNL, really showing folks a new way that SNL can be funny. I feel like she was a trailblazer for female comedians on the show. I feel like she paved the way for a lot of the greats that we saw in years to come alongside her cast. I feel like the timing that she had, her ability to excel and really own these character-based sketches was phenomenal. She had this incredible ability to do over-the-top, crazy, fun characters so well, which were so important to that era of the show and what it was all about. Out and I think she really deserves her credit and and props for for that role that she played so I absolutely think that Sherry should be remembered as one of the greats and for playing a critical role in in SNL's history.Track 2:[54:37] So there's that thank you so much thomas and welcome back jamie burwood really great to hear your voice extolling the virtues of sherry o terry i gotta tell you when thomas started to talk about impressions that Sherry O'Terry was part of. And he mentioned Barbara Walters. I was immediately taken back. And I just think that character really exemplifies a lot of what she was capable of and able to do. It's silly, but it's on the mark. And it's a lot of fun. Let's take a listen.Track 5:[55:40] Good morning, I'm Meredith Vieira, and welcome to The View. We've got a fabulous show today, right ladies? Oh, we certainly do, Meredith. We certainly do. Okay, let's take a look at the news. Paula Jones went face-to-face with President Clinton today. He gave his deposition regarding her sexual harassment suit. Now, Star, you're a lawyer. Yes, I am. Now, President Clinton allegedly exposed himself to Ms. Jones and allegedly asked for sex and allegedly Ms. Jones said no, which disappointed the president, allegedly. You know, I was paired with Paula Jones in a three-legged race at Larry King's Fourth of July barbecue bash. And she assured me that President Clinton's member had more twists and turns than the curly fries at Arby's. It's true. Well, I just don't understand what the big deal is. I mean, if a guy whips it out, you just have to be assertive and say, like, hey, don't whip it out, you know?Track 5:[56:41] You're very young, Debbie. Very, very young. All right, this next story is amazing. Chicago physicist Richard Seed wants to open a clinic that would clone human babies. Amazing, right? Now, allegedly, he's going to clone a baby by the year 2000, and what this means is that he's going to take a baby and using signs, he'll make an identical baby to that baby really, really soon. Mm-hmm. You know, there are three people that I would clone. Albert Einstein, Diana, Princess of Where's, and Hugh Downs, my co-host this week on 2020. Well, if I had a clone, I'd make out with myself.Track 5:[57:31] I'm just kidding. Do not speak again. Our guest today is a big star. She is one of the big actresses in the world, allegedly. Please welcome my girl, Glenn Close. Hey!Track 5:[57:58] You are strong and inspirational, and you are one of the whitest women I've ever seen.Track 5:[58:06] I'm delighted to be here. Glenn, you have done so much. Acted in award-winning films. Performed on Broadway. Only one question remains. What do you think of me? Well, Barbara, I admire you tremendously. I've always thought that you would... Oh, you know what I have to ask you about? I want to ask you about that scene in the big chair where you let your husband get that other lady pregnant. Mm, I could not do that. Because I am a do-right woman, and I have to have me a do-right man. Yes. We know that about you, Star. That's done in a nutshell. That's done in a nutshell. Oh, Glenn, I have a question about John Malkovich. What's that? He is so sexy. Ugh. Oh. What's the question? Oh, speaking of questions, it's time for the question of the day. Okay. Today's question comes from Marlene Kimball of Tulsa, Oklahoma. And, Glenn, this question should be really good for you. If you could change one thing about your face, what would it be? Well, nothing. This face has served me very well. Well, I think women need to embrace the uniqueness of their flaws. Wouldn't you all agree?Track 5:[59:31] I don't go in for plastic surgery. If I could change one thing about my face, which is allegedly very big, I would tell those doctors to suck some of this fat out of my neck.Track 5:[59:42] Well, thank you, Glenn, for coming by. That's it? Oh, my God. You know what I just realized? You're the mean lady from 101 Dalmatians. Cruella de Vil. Yeah, now I know who you are. You're evil. Stand over there! Go! Stand over there! Quicker! Stick around. In our next segment, we'll be talking about female circumcision with Naomi Judge.Track 2:[1:00:11] Oh, man. Yeah, that brings back some memories. That's like the original View cast that they were parodying there. And allegedly, I will say, Sherry O'Terry has a path to the SNL Hall of Fame. I believe it. Not a first ballot Hall of Famer, I don't think. We'll get more on the water cooler this week and see what Joe and Shari have to say.Track 2:[1:00:41] Next week, we are discussing Garrett Morris with our friend Darren Patterson, and it should be another great, great episode for you all. Now, that's what I've got for you this week. So, if you would do me a favor, and as you're leaving and walk past the Weekend Update exhibit, turn out the lights, because the SNL Hall of Fame is now closed.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Meet Joe and Shari as they assemble around the SNL Hall of Fame watercooler to discuss a variety of things relating the SNL and its Hall of Fame. Transcript:Track 2[0:22]All right. Welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler Podcast. I'm Joe Gannon and I'm sitting at the water cooler with...Track 3[0:30]Me, Shari Fasco. I'm very excited to be here. I've got my cup and I'm filling it up.Track 2[0:38]All right. And then there I go. All right. Let's get into it. All right. So on On this podcast, we're going to be talking about the SNL Hall of Fame and who we believe should and shouldn't be in it. But first, let's kind of just introduce ourselves. I'm Joe Gannon. I've been an SNL fan since, I guess, 1991. 91 and what I enjoyed about it was as I was watching it like as it was going on since 91 I got to watch the reruns like on Comedy Central E and whatnot so it's kind of cool seeing a show develop and then learn its history at the same time and I just found it absolutely fascinating about how important it is to our society about because the show makes fun of our society and politics, and everything. And the last thing is, I grew up in the central time zone, so the TV show was on at 10.30 to midnight. So to me, it was like a show that waited until the last hour and a half of the week to make fun of the previous week. And you, Sherry, introduce yourself.Track 3[2:00]Hi, I'm Shari, rhymes with Starry, as I tell everybody, and I am a Michigan native, and I have been into Saturday Night Live probably since I was about nine, since it started in 75. I was really, really young in 75, so I don't remember it that young, but I definitely, definitely remember watching it at like eight, nine, ten. I was really into Mr. Bill. I vaguely remember having a Mr. Bill t-shirt. I just always loved the show and it's always been like a rock for me. It's been something that I've always come back to when things are good and when things are not so good. My husband is also into it. He's been watching a lot of sketches with me lately, getting ready for this podcast. And it's just, it's really just, it's comfort food. Just like what Joe's saying, it's comfort food. It's something that's always been there. and now it's going into its 50th year. I'm 54. It's kind of incredible. It's kind of crazy to think that it's been around. So I'm really excited to be here with Joe. I think both of us are super excited to be talking about these incredible people. I think we're ready to get into it. Are we ready, Joe?Track 2[3:15]I believe so.Track 3[3:16]We're going to talk about the season six draft. We're each going to do the two people we would like to see get in. And then the two that we don't think really have much of a chance of getting in possibly. I will let you go ahead and go first, Joe, and then I'll go after you.Track 2[3:33]Okay. So the first person I think should get in is Lorraine Newman. I believe that the only reason why she hasn't gotten in sooner is there's just a series of people that are a little bit more obvious. Uh you know that just i feel like should be uh you know people that just feel like they should be in uh like will ferrell but um as far as the original cast like obviously everyone from the original five years should be in um as far as where lorraine is in that uh group she's not She's not really a household name. She wasn't a Ghostbuster. She wasn't a Blues Brother. She didn't have a sitcom afterward. Everyone knows Aykroyd, Murray, Jane Curtin, Chevy Chase, John Belushi. And I feel like Lorraine Newman, who is extremely talented, just doesn't have that star power name. So when people are voting and they see her name... It just doesn't connect, or they don't immediately remember all of the great sketches that she was a part of. Or, if they do, they remember someone else that was in that sketch.Track 2[5:01]So that's why I chose Lorraine Newman. All right, and who's your pick?Track 3[5:06]My pick, I just stuck to strictly the season six draft. So I went with one, two of the draftees for this coming season that I would like to seek it in that I'm not really hopeful about. But my first is Sherry O'Terry. For all of the reasons you just said about Lorraine, I think Sherry is very, very, very, very, very underappreciated. She is absolutely hilarious. hilarious she stands up against the likes of will freaking farrell and holds her own yes even though she's this diminutive little she can't be more than five two but against will farrell who's like i don't know six four she still holds her own her comedic chops are that strong that she can hold her own and i feel that way in the zimmermans with chris katan i i watched her playing against Sylvester Stallone in one of her Rita sketches. And she really is amazing and so funny and so able to bring real relatability to these outrageous characters that she plays.Track 3[6:19]And I'm feeling like I don't think she's going to get in on the first ballot, but I do hope that The people remember her. I know she was a long time ago. I remember her vividly because I was in college. And that's the time when you remember the gas.Track 3[6:38]So I hope there's a lot of Gen Xers and a lot of Zs and millennials that are going back and watching and listening to our great guest. And Thomas, of course, make an excellent argument for her this season, I'm sure. So that's my first choice. Now back to you.Track 2[7:01]You made a great point, and the only word I want to add to it, just literally one word, is energy. She was full of energy in pretty much everything she did. I mean, with the exception of maybe Barbara Walters, but that's because it wouldn't fit. But if you look at all of her characters, that's the common theme, is that she was almost like twitchy.Track 3[7:23]I totally agree.Track 2[7:24]But, yeah. That's an excellent, excellent pick. Okay, so I'm going to go with my one, and we're going to continue the female trend. Someone a little bit more current. I'm going to go with Kate McKinnon.Track 3[7:41]Absolutely.Track 2[7:42]She, yes, yes, yes. She is one of those people, she reminds me of Amy Poehler in the sense that her talent seems to have been made for Saturday Night Live. Um now just i want to say this on our first episode uh to me the three things that make up a great snl cast member are characters impressions and hosting we can update not doing characters but hosting now you don't need to do all three to be great sometimes you can like jimmy fallon will ferrell dan ackroyd uh sometimes you can do just one dennis miller however when you do two or three, that shows that you're able to play any position.Track 2[8:31]So with that being said, with Kate McKinnon, she did characters and impressions extremely well.Track 2[8:39]The various characters, like the alien abductions sketch, that to me is timeless. That is one of the latest great reoccurring sketches. Sketches um and then as far as her impressions uh you look at amy puller who did like you know hillary clinton um and ever uh ever levine um kate mckinnon said hold my beer and then did uh not only female impressions but male she did rudy giuliani uh and such and a bunch of other politicians um and just i mean i'm having a hard time thinking of all you know it's trying to like name all the santa's reindeer or the seven dwarves you know you like you get down a few or you're like wait uh there's also uh you know so i'm i don't want to um take up too much time saying a lot of urs and ums as i try and think of them all but she is just where she just blended into those impressions and then characters and she was like Phil Hartman where she could be in she could do the whole show, you know she could do and it was almost unfair to the other cast members I don't want to overhype her too much you can't overhype her but.Track 2[10:02]I will. I do, but I want to be fair to everyone else. I want to be fair. I don't want to make it seem like the rest of the cast that they were less. I don't want to make them seem like they were less than they were.Track 3[10:16]But she's amazing.Track 2[10:18]But she was just, Kate McKinnon was just, her talent was made for Saturday Night Live. And I'm not going to lie, I miss her.Track 3[10:28]She definitely left a hole and she was part of a she was part of a trinity when you talk about her and cecily 80 unbelievable with things like twin bad i mean back home ballers just amazing the three of them together will just fire so excellent choice joe i'm gonna shake things i'm gonna shake things up a little i'm gonna i'm gonna break i'm finally gonna break up our like female male domination that's going on, which I love, but I'm going to break it up a bit. Like I said, I chose two from season six because that's where my head was at, and I chose a musical act, and I know J.D. Mentions this. Thomas mentions this.Track 3[11:12]Musical guests don't seem to get into the Hall of Fame. I think Paul Simon might be the only one still. Dave Grohl is knocking on the door, and he's he's on my list but the act i want to talk about they're coming up this season like i said is one of my favorite bands and remember i'm a gen xer so i know you know joe who i'm talking about uh you too you do i mean i watched a couple of performances it's hard to find musical performances especially when you don't have peacock which i know right i know snl fan without peacock But anyways, I love you two. I could not believe how amazing they were on that 8-H stage. Thomas made a really good point in the draft episode.Track 3[12:03]They were selling out stadiums at this time. I mean, they were huge at this time. But then they could bring it down and be right on that 8-H stage and be intimate and personal. And Bono, let's face it, it's the Bono show, right? The man can sing. He has charisma oozing out of his pores. And he just captivates. And that's exactly what he did. it. These days on current SNL, the musical acts are really getting out of control. And I know they talk about this in several of the podcasts I listen to. They're throwing all these dancers and visual effects and explosions. You don't need it. If you can sing and you're talented, you don't need it. U2 does not need it. I'd love to see them get in at some point. I hope they get at the 10% to at least stay on the ballot. But after Dave Grohl, I think they should be in next because they're just amazing. So those are my two.Track 2[13:07]All right. So let's get into the two that we think definitely won't. I just want to go first because I want to continue the trend of what we're talking about with the musical guests. Now, you said that it's going to be really hard for musical guests to get into the Hall of Fame, because they're not really a major part of the show. They're rememberable, but not as much as the cast, the writing, the host. So they're kind of like the fourth tier. But they're very important, don't get me wrong. It's just not one of the initial people that you think of when you think of the show. So as far as my first pick, I'm going to say Randy Newman. I agree with everything that was said when they were doing the ballot show. I agree with Randy Newman's great toy story. I love L.A. He's funny. When he accepted an Oscar, I don't remember specifically what he said, but he had a great Oscar speech.Track 2[14:10]Let's just put it this way. When you're voting for an SNL Hall of Fame, you know, person, I doubt that you're going to vote for Randy Newman. I mean, there's just a lot of people ahead of him in line, you know, like, you know, like the people that we're saying, you know, and then there's you got, you know, you got hosts that are well known. You got cast members that are well known. Writers are kind of a gray area, you know. And then musical guests are just hard to get into, period. And then Randy Newman is, you know, like people might know him from Toy Story and such, but they might not know him that well, or at least current people or whatnot. And I'm not saying anything, I don't want to say anything too much, too negative about him, but he's just not really a household name anymore. So with that being said, like it would be hard to vote him in the snl hall of fame so yeah i don't i don't know what more i could say after that it's just kind of kind of cut and dry i guess like you know like it's hard for a musical guest to get in and he's not really that well known as a musical guest so agreed.Track 3[15:30]In fact i agree so much my first totally won't get in was also randy newman and i'm not gonna to rehash it because you said it well. And even when J.D. nominated him in the draft, he said that he wondered if people would remember because he hasn't been... I mean, I'm sure he's still doing music for movies and doing movie songs and things, but you don't hear about him much. Like, I don't know if he had a new song in the new Pixar movie, the one that just came out or not. But yeah, I'm not going to go into it too much since you did a great job. I will go on to my second person and then I'll throw it back to you. My second person is a writer and I have to disagree with you a little bit. I actually, well, I don't know quite how you feel about writers, but you kind of sounded like you thought they were gray area. I don't think they're gray area. I think writing comes first. Great writing.Track 2[16:34]I don't think it's important. It's just not, the writers might not be well known.Track 3[16:38]Oh, I agree with that. But I feel that writers are the most important. They're that base ingredient. read yet. I don't care if you have the best cast in the world, if the sketch sucks and is poorly written and the characters aren't well-developed, nobody's going to be able to bring that to life. Whereas if you have a great sketch or a great script, a so-so actor, like say even myself, could do a good job with it. I think writing is essential. I don't think writers get enough love in the Hall of Fame. I don't think they get enough love in general. So that all being said, I'm going to talk about Alan Zweibel. Unfortunately, unlike Jim Downey, who I'm so happy got in, he doesn't have name recognition. He's done a lot. I've been reading a lot about him, and I was sent a list of the sketches he's worked on. I mean, Roseanne, Rosanna, Dana, Anna, Letella, Emily Letella. He worked very closely with Gilda, very close with Gilda. He was very, very, very, very essential to those early years.Track 3[17:56]Unfortunately, and I worry about this with Garrett Morris, too. I don't want to get off track, and Lorraine. People don't have long memories always. And especially these days, Joe, you know the kids are jumping on, they're watching sketches, they're watching the Beavis and Butthead sketch, they're not watching the whole show. So it's very different now. And I feel like writers like Alan Zubow have been lost to the anals of time, unfortunately. And maybe I'll be wrong. I hope I am wrong, but I feel like there's other writers ahead of him a bit. However i'd be thrilled if he got in i'd like to see writers get more love but i don't think it's happening so now i'm gonna throw it back over to you.Track 2[18:41]I just want to add on a little bit to that because i think he might have been a cast member in season five because okay yeah everyone started leaving so they just started pulling people from like the writers and like because like i think paul schaefer was a cast member in season five so season five was It was just kind of that running on fumes before everyone left. And then also, I just want to mention, as far as the Gildan Radner connection, I just love this memory, which is her last television appearance, which was on It's a Gary Shandling Show. And I know this isn't Saturday Night Live, but um uh he gary shanley uh developed that show with alan's i or uh zybel and uh after, gildan ran there was um she had a pause where she started to look good uh health-wise and so she showed up on that show and i just wanted to recommend people to look that moment up because it's such a gift from alan and gilda um so i know it's outside saturday night live but uh, But anyway, to segue to my pick, I also picked a writer for the same reason. Again, writers, it would be cool if writers, if you could see their name on the sketch.Track 3[20:04]Right.Track 2[20:04]That would be great. You know, that way, you know, like the only one that I think of is Jack Handy, The Deep Thoughts. You saw his name on that sketch. Right. So that kind of made you familiar. Now, anyway, my pick is Julio Torres, who is more recent. I just don't, he's not like John Mulaney, where he's a recent writer who has standout specials or hosted the show and all this stuff. I'm sure he's a great writer. He's just not well known. I think he's the least known person on the list.Track 3[20:41]I think you're right. He does have that I'm a Stone Actress sketch, which was great. But, yeah, he's not really talked about as much.Track 2[20:49]I mean, I don't want to, I literally don't have anything negative to say about him other than the fact that he's not known enough. And I'm sure people found out, you know, what sketches he wrote. They'd be like, oh, yeah, absolutely. I love that. But at this point, you know, I mean, you know, I just can't see people looking at this list and voting for him. I mean, and I'm not saying anything negative about him. I just don't see him being well known enough.Track 3[21:23]Now, let's reveal our ballots. Do you mind if I go first, Joe?Track 2[21:27]Yes, please.Track 3[21:28]I'm just going to zoom through it. But my 15, and I did use all 15. I know some people don't, but I had a hard time keeping it to 15. I could have gone to 16 or 17. My ballot is... And a guest hire, Sherry O'Terry, Dave Grohl, Vanessa Bayer, Rosie Schuster, and Paula Pell, both writers. Candice Bergen, Rachel Dratch, Dick Ebersole, Herb Sargent, Lorraine Newman, Buck Henry, Jack Handy, Tracy Morgan, and you too. Those are my 15. And let me tell you, I didn't really know who Buck Henry was. I didn't know much about Dick Ebersole, rather. Then I listened to this podcast, and it changed my voting. And I put these two on. This is the first time I've put them on because I think they're essential to the show's history. So thank you, SNL Hall of Fame. Thank you, Thomas. Thank you, JD. Thank you, Matt, for making me a more educated viewer. Now your turn, Joe.Track 2[22:39]All right. So with me, I just went with 10. My brain just works in the DECA system. So shout out to the Romans. um so the list goes paul rudd dick ever saw dave grohl paul lapel lorraine newman kate mckinnon adam samler martin short chris parnell and john malane um i just and to me that would almost be a great show all of himself they were together so that's my time agreed well Well.Track 3[23:10]I'm surprised at like how similar our lists are because I think we have slightly different tastes, but I think we're ready to move on. Beck Bennett is our first season six nominee. And the way this is going to go every episode is one of us is going to be pro and one of us is going to be con. It does not reflect our true feelings, but we're arguing the side we're arguing, and that's how it's going to go. And are we ready to get started? Do you want to start, Joe? You're the con and I'm the pro. What do you think?Track 2[23:50]Well, how about this? we'll go pro just to kind of introduce him and then uh i'll do con.Track 3[23:55]Okay we'll just throw it back and forth how's that sound yes sounds good all right so i am arguing the pro for mr beck bennett eight seasons that alone meets one of my criteria i feel like a great cast member has to have at at least five. Beck has eight. Eight seasons, and he came out of the gate on fire. He brought ideas to the show. He, of course, had a relationship with Kyle Mooney, and they came with sketches. So that's my first pro. Want to give a con, Joe?Track 2[24:37]Yes. Yes. So now, first off, let me just say I agree with every positive thing. However, my assignment is to come up with cons. So I agree with everything that you're saying and everything on the podcast. However, for the con, I feel like he was a part of a big cast.Track 3[25:01]True.Track 2[25:02]And he didn't really pop. He didn't really stand out. So to give an example or demonstration of this, imagine if he came back to host, you know, people wouldn't be saying, oh, I hope he does this sketch, you know, like, or I hope he does this character. There wasn't anything. He did Baby Boss, but that wasn't rememberable. I don't think people are going to be quoting or re-watching that on YouTube. A lot of the Kyle Mooney pre-taped stuff is funny, don't get me wrong, but not rememberable. He didn't you know he just didn't pop and then um he also did a lot of the straight man stuff which is a thankless task like he did a lot of uh game show hosts and you know so i just that's my con he just didn't pop he didn't stand out i i just i can't make a list of uh stuff i would want him to do again if he came back to host so that's my con all.Track 3[26:09]Right so i i just want to add I've got a few more things for the, for the pro. Let's talk about his pre-tapes. I mean, he and Kyle came with the SoCal boys, kind of the clueless boys who were all over the internet at that time. They're probably still all over the internet. And they just nailed it. And it was so funny. I just rewatched a couple of those SoCal boys pre-tapes and they were hilarious. But I just want, I have to mention my, one of my absolute favorite pre-tapes, which is the Leslie Kyle back.Track 3[26:48]Triangle specifically the one with the masquerade with the eyes wide shut for those of you young listeners it's a movie that came out a long time ago watch the sketch watch the pre-tape i i can't even do it justice so funny even colin jost gets into the act it is hilarious i just think beck was one of those in the clutch performers who could come and be the straight man and all the the craziness could bounce off of him against Santa Baby with Gosling and Vanessa Bayer. They're going nuts about Santa, and Beck has to play the straight dad role. Like you said, Joe, always having, often having to be the one that everybody else sort of plays. He's sort of the canvas, and they play off. He's just so perfect at that. And they mentioned so many good examples in the Hall of Fame episode that I don't think I need to do anymore. So that's my wrap up. I think he deserves a shot. And I was very happy I got to be pro because I know, Joe, that you struggled with the cons. But I think you did an excellent job and made some excellent points about why maybe he is not quite Hall of Fame material.Track 3[28:13]All right, Joe, I think it's time for our final, final segment, our hopes for the 50th season. And the theme for this, this week's our first is which two cast members do we want to see more of? All right, I'll start. Let me tell you, I had two, I had two people. One, I didn't change. One, I did. Guess why? Why? Because my buddy Joe and I had a conversation and he made me rethink and I'm like, he's right. I need to go with my gut and I need to say a regular cast member. I was going to do a newer cast member, but instead I'm going with a I believe she's going into her sixth year.Track 3[28:59]She's getting the screen time. But thank you, Mike Murray, on Saturday night or Saturday as an on the Saturday Night Network. Network yeah because mike murray if you haven't listened and i'm assuming if you're listening to this podcast you listen to the hasn't on uh mike murray does a great stats breakdown and he gave me some stats and he's he talks a lot about uh minutes per episode and i don't think i don't think she's getting enough time on screen and he has solidified that for me i'm talking about the the one, the only, the incredible Ego Nwudum. She is my favorite cast member, bar none, hands down.Track 3[29:45]I think she's absolutely hilarious in every sketch she's featured in. She just holds her own so beautifully against the likes of Kenan and Mikey Day and Heidi Gardner. Ego stands tall and proud. She's amazing. I'm really happy she got one of the first reoccurring characters in a long time, Lisa from Temecula, and she delivers. And I'm thrilled that she's got a TV show now, I believe on Peacock. I think it's called The Throwback, but I might be messing up the name. But I'm really, I'm thrilled that she has a show and I want to see her. I hope that doesn't mean she's going to get less screen time i want to see her get more screen time okay joe.Track 2[30:33]Who do you want to see more of again i guess this is a very female themed episode because my first one is my comedy crush uh and by that i mean i love her comedy is sarah sherman uh.Track 2[30:53]So I just love she is so unique, but I'm also glad she could blend in to the cast. Like, I'm glad that she could do both her unique style and, you know, that doesn't alienate her from everyone else. She's able to be in sketches that don't work, you know, that aren't about her unique sense of humor. She is so she has such a unique identity. She just does goes with her gut and just and then on top of that. And then the second point is I want to see her on Weekend Update. She did Sarah's News, I believe was the segment. But most importantly, and I do mean this, which is important to me. I want to see her roasting Colin Jost because she is aside from those swap joke swaps that he does with Michael J. I love seeing Colin Joe's get roasted by Sarah she just does it in this goes for the jugular just really you know she did one where she went backstage in his dressing room and there was like yeah this is where he keeps the interns in the cage and stuff like that and she, chef's kiss I mean I just love her unique sense into humor and I love seeing her roast Colin Jost. So yes, that's my first pick. And now yours.Track 3[32:19]My second is a little newer and he just nailed it this past season. I think he's getting more time, but again, thank you Mike Murray. His screen time is not where it needs to be. His Tim Scott is one of my favorite political impressions currently. Of course, I'm talking about the fabulous Devin Walker. I think Devin is fantastic. I love Marcelo Hernandez, don't get me wrong, but he seems to be the newbie getting the most love, and I'd like to see the love spread a little evener for Longfellow as well, but really for Devin. I think this is Devin's season to shine. I hope so. I hope they give him more impressions. I hope they put him on update. Let him have Devin's take, kind of like they did with Longfellow and let him give his takes on certain cultural happenings in the zeitgeist. Yeah, I want more Devin Walker this season. A lot more than last season.Track 2[33:16]So my second pick is Michael Longfellow. It's just real... Yes. It's just real simple. I just look at that guy and I know this is kind of a part of the con that I said about Beck Bennett, but he has great deadpan.Track 3[33:34]Yes.Track 2[33:34]So and that is really one of the thankless tasks of a cast member is looking at the other ones, looking at the character and just, you know, acting, you know, and just having a facial expression that says you're weird and stuff like that.Track 3[33:51]Yes.Track 2[33:52]You know and then um how about this is what came to me i can't believe it was an snl cast member or or anything but it keaton has this thing where he just goes no no and michael longfellow just has that in his face where he's able to do that without saying anything like you're weird you're just he's got it in his eyes it reminds me of like dave foley from news radio um he just he's He's able to look at the joke and not say anything. And to me, it's more important to act instead of saying, you know, like, you know, brevity is the soul of wit. So just to be and I just like seeing that from him. So that's what I'm hoping to see more of from him.Track 3[34:33]OK, so I think the moral of our episode today is we want more women getting involved and we want the newbies getting some love because both Devin and Michael came in. And Marcelo seems to be getting all of the love, which he's super talented. But like I said, I'd like to see them spreading it out a little more. Okay. I cannot believe that this is the end already, Joe. This is so much fun. You are so much fun to talk to because you're as geeky, passionate about SNL as I am. And so thank you.Track 2[35:10]Yes. And I believe you have excellent taste. No, no, you're great. You know, you have mountains and mountains of information and passion. So, yeah, this is great. You know, I hope to be doing this every week. We will be doing this every week right here at the Butter Cooler.Track 3[35:26]We're throwing our cups away until next week when they'll be, when Thomas will be joined by another great guest on the SNL Hall of Fame. Well, they'll be talking about the one and only, and we talked about her today, right, Joe?Track 2[35:41]Yes, we did.Track 3[35:41]The fabulous sherry o terry very.Track 2[35:47]Energetic a mountain yeah we got a lot to get into on.Track 3[35:50]Yeah looking forward to it but for now leaving the water cooler till next time throwing out the cup.0:00 / 36:410.5x0.75x1.0x1.25x1.5x1.75x2xSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

We're back and it's season 6! As is typical we've assembled a group to draft the nominees we will discuss this coming season. Join jD, Matt, and Thomas as they get together to build season 6!Transcript:[0:00] Thank you, Doug Donance. It's JD here, and I am thrilled to be back in the SNL Hall of Fame. Let me see if my key works, but before I do that, I'll wipe my feet. The SNL Hall of Fame is a weekly affair where each episode we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer, and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Consideration once the nominees have been announced we turn to you the listener to vote for the most deserving and help determined who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall and that's how we play the game it's just that simple but you know what behind the scenes folks it's not that simple because we have to curate a list of who we are going to discuss every season and we found the most fun way to achieve that is with a draft and we're going to do that again this year before we explain the rules i want to introduce the other two drafteteers they are your friends and mine matt ardill and thomas santa how are you doing fellas hello jd good Good to see you. Hey, J.D., great thanks.[1:28] That's a little inside baseball there, Thomas.[1:33] So, Thomas, do you want to go through the intricate rules of the draft? You are the master of the draft, after all. All right, sure thing. So, this is the third season, I think, that we've done a draft and had a draft episode. So, there's parameters. So the three of us, we each get five picks. So 15 total, we each get five picks. We each have to pick two cast members. We each have to pick one host.[2:05] We each have to pick a musical guest or a writer, and then we have the wild card. We can do whatever the heck we want with this, as long as it's a cast member, host, musical guest, or writer. But we have the wild card there. So that adds up to five picks each, 15 total, and I have in my hand a coaster that I'm going to flip. I'm going to give either JD or Matt the first pick. Uh so i want matt to call heads or tails matt uh tails tails it is so matt ardeal gets the first pick uh jd you get the second pick and i'll i'll round things out and get the last pick that's how the draft is working today folks um okay well i think for my first draft pick i am going to go with Garrett Morris aside from being an original cast member he's a Juilliard trained performer he can sing, dance, act the entire Nine Yards he just has incredible chops.[3:16] Amazing sketches or bits like the White Guild Relief Fund impressions of Chubby Checker that he did with Carrie Fisher first appearance of a Marvel character as ant-man um that's right and uh you know i i watched this one interview where he was talking about death row follies and it's like it was really interesting he was talking about how he was with harry belafonte's band and they were just chatting and he's like so the entire process was lauren just had an idea for a sketch and sent them off to write he didn't give him any direction It's like you're on death row, you're performing. And he's he went back to this memory. He's talking about how the core of improv is drawing from your experiences. He went back to this memory of talking to Harry Belafonte, band member who had watched an old like 1950s TV show. And if you remember the sketch, his bit is I'm going to get me a shotgun and kill all the whitest I see. And he's like well that actually originated from this old 1950s this is your life type of show where this woman had written over 300 songs and they brought her up from the audience and sat her down to interview her and.[4:32] Kind of of how the song went but she was a white woman from the south and uh so you can imagine how that was so he took it and flipped it and used that for comedy and it's just like you know it just brings so brought so much to the table and i feel like out of the original cast he's one of those people who just is is not given as much respect or acknowledgement as he's due and And I think it's his time to shine. JD, so this is Garrett's one of the last remaining original cast members that we have yet to discuss. This is exciting. What do you think, Jamie?[5:13] Yeah, I'm excited that we're kicking it off with an old school, an original seven. Is it seven? Right, it was seven. Do we count George Coe and Michael O'Donohue? Oh, no, I'm not. The core. I'm talking about the core. It's almost the same as the NHL where they have the original six, but there was errors before that had eight teams, you know, but whatever I digress, I think it's a great pick. I think it's an exciting pick for a show like ours. I know that he will be a tent pool, a tent pole rather in terms of episodes, you've probably noticed in the past that we, we stack, front stack and back stack with more high-profile performers or nominees, and Garrett Morris will certainly be one of those. That being said... I don't see him as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Lorraine Newman didn't make it in on the first ballot. And I can't imagine him doing better than Lorraine Newman.[6:18] Because I think, based on a time and place, he was critically misused. Yes. You know? He was the epitome of, you know, the South Park gag, the token, right? It almost smacks you in the face because you don't see him ever. And then when you do see him, it's like there's flashes of brilliance, like you were mentioning that. So I anticipate him going in, but not as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah, there's not as much meat on the bone as far as his resume as a lot of cast members, but not necessarily his fault. Which i'll be interested to see if what if the voters may take that into account or anything but definitely you know a beloved original cast member i think this is uh this is an interesting um choice that makes sense for for an episode for us yeah i i think so i'm going to start with somebody who just really epitomizes my experience with snl in the last 12 years i would say I started watching this performer and I didn't like him that much unless he was with this other guy.[7:40] And then I started to like them as a duo.[7:44] And then I really saw that this next nominee was outshining not only his comedic partner, but several other male cast members. And I'm talking about Beck Bennett, who just recently became eligible for the Hall of Fame. So that may hurt his chances of getting in right away. But i think he's versatile i think he's the kind of guy and i know we overuse this statement but you ask him to do anything and he'll do it you know like he doesn't know an impression you know what he'll put it together in a week it's like that old school mentality yeah i don't know how to do a putin impression oh i know what i'll do i'll take off my shirt you know and and sound vaguely russian you know but it was one of my favorite reoccurring characters and i think one of the last sketches he did i might be wrong but it's a solo sketch with him as vin diesel yep that was his and that was the last sketch of of the of the night right yep yeah the onya taylor joy episode yeah that's right i just got such a kick out i got such a kick out of it so it was like Like, I sound so old when I say that, but I am. So there you go. By the time you're hearing this, I'm 50. I'm 50.[9:11] So that's my pick. Matt, what do you think? I agree. I think that's an awesome pick. I've always felt he's one of those performers that really grew on me. The longer he was on screen, the more I saw him. And yeah, I think I think that's a terrific choice. Also, he's he's in DuckTales. So, you know, I can't fault him there, you know, like.[9:37] Talented man of many many talents so if you ever want to hear a fantastic episode of it's a great podcast it's a stand-up comedian that hosts it there i'm narrowing it down substantially aren't i uh and it's got um he used to be in the hbo show called crashing oh pete homes pete homes yes Yes, he has a podcast, and he interviews Beck Bennett on an episode. Sorry, folks, for that previous ramble. That was very riveting podcasting, I know. But at any rate, he is featured on this episode of the podcast, and it's a long-form interview. It's like a three-hour interview, but they get into it. And he was a multimillionaire when he signed to go work at Saturday Night Live on the basis of those insurance company commercials he was doing with the kids. Oh, wow. I don't know if you ever saw that campaign, but it was a national campaign in the US and he booked it. And it became a reoccurring thing. And by the time it reoccurred for the fifth time, they signed him for six figures to do it. Oh, jeez.[10:49] And pete holmes pulls that out of him like afterwards he's so mortified because pete holmes like is like he's like would you get like 50k he's like no he's like 200k he's like oh i don't really want to talk about it like 750k it's like okay it was a million dollars.[11:10] I digress on the insurance commercials yeah yeah it was it was uh their telephone phone commercials telephone commercials yeah he had a group of kids and he was almost like the moderator and ask kids questions or whatever and so when he got hired to snl i was like oh that's the guy from the commercials so i had already known his face and i'm like i didn't know he did comedy and he's on snl now that's gonna be interesting he turned into like a steady hand he turned into like like basically almost the rock of the show like he and keenan we're almost like the steady hand rocks of of the of that era of snl i'm excited about talking about back, Yeah, it's going to be a great episode, I suspect. Who do you have for us? Yeah. Try. So I am going to go, I want to go a different route. I'm going to use my musical guest early. And probably in a lot of ways because I think I already have a guest booked for this. One of my favorite guests to bring on the SNL Hall of Fame to talk music. So I'm going to pick you two as a nominee. And with the understanding that musical guests haven't had such great luck here on the SNL Hall of Fame, I think Paul Simon is in, and that's about it. I think I'm going to keep banging this drum all season. Dave Grohl should be in, and I will be talking about that as much as I can.[12:40] This is Dave Grohl's final season on the ballot. But I digress. You two, amazing band. Some memorable appearances at SNL four times on the show. And I think I have an awesome guest lined up to talk about U2. So I'm going to take U2 off the board early as my musical guest. They would have been one of my picks tonight, I suspect. They were on my musical shortlist if I didn't pick a writer. So they could have ended up a wild card for me. That being said, when did their appearances start? Were they always like a superstar band on the show? Well, that's the thing. Yeah, no, I don't think they appeared until the 90s.[13:23] Until like Octane Baby. Yeah, that's one of the things about them. From my recollection, I think they did pop. But they didn't appear when the Joshua Tree came out. They kind of missed like that. So I think their first appearances were in the 90s. So that'll be discussed, I'm sure. On our show as far as like timing of their appearances to me it reminds me maybe a little bit of prince in some ways uh as far as timing of their appearances for me they appeared after i'd already burnt out on them like i was that joshua tree era fan and really wasn't that zuropa.[14:03] You know kind of era didn't really click for me but i do know a lot of people of my age who were completely over the moon when they were on snl uh so yeah i mean they're a great band no arguments there but uh i don't know it's just for me they don't they aren't as as it isn't as memorable but i i can understand why because they are still such an amazing band and they did really put it all on the table whenever they did perform i just think for me the fact that the first time they showed up on SNL, if they were touring Octoon Baby, then it was either the Zoo TV tour, which was a stadium tour, or it was the one that had the cars hanging from the arena. I forget what that part of the tour was called before they went into Zoo TV and stadiums. So you have this band that's playing stadiums around the world coming into 8H.[15:00] This little wee stage. Right. That's what I mean. That's frickin' Hall of Fame. Yeah, I agree. That's one of the fascinating things about SNL and musical guests is sometimes we take for granted, like Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift or somebody like that. We're seeing these acts in a more intimate setting instead of these stadiums. U2 definitely qualifies. I think that's a really good point. Yeah, so that's my pick. We have Garrett Morris, Beck Bennett and you, too. It's back to Matt.[15:32] I'm going to go with my host card next. I am going to nominate Adam Driver. Again, one of those really strong players. He really brings his heart to every performance and he'll do things that like I'm pretty sure other people of his caliber of stardom would really push back on. I mean, you look at that cold open sketch that where he was Epstein and John Lovitz was Alan Dershowitz during the impeachment trial, the dark gallows humor that he was willing to go to in that for that sketch.[16:11] But then you also see like really over the top, silly things like when he was playing Dr. Rock hard, the porn doctor. And it's just, he's willing to like, you know, he's another one of those performers like Jon Hamm, like the star, his stardom doesn't get in the way of him doing silly stuff that takes down his own myth, like even like the undercover boss is Kylo Ren is so I'm going with Adam driver. Great pick. I think Adam driver, he wasn't on my short list, but I think it's a fantastic pick because he's. He doesn't have a dud. He doesn't have a dud episode. And that's key to being a Hall of Fame host, in my opinion. I tend to lean toward the five-timer being, you know, sort of a cutoff for me, and he just misses that.[17:06] But man, I can't wait to see those other performances working with this group that is starting to really find itself yeah this adam driver is one to me he's one of the better hosts of this whole era of snl and matt you did me a favor because adam driver was on like a short list and i was going to be debating between the shipping driver these other people so you just made that decision easier for me uh by taking adam driver because he was definitely on my like short very short list of hosts uh that i was considering he's just a guy He did some comedic stuff in Girls. He had some comedic moments, but I wouldn't describe him as a comedian or a comedic actor, but he showed those chops on SNL. I think a lot of times that's what happens. A lot of those good actors tend to do really well as SNL hosts because they can just slide in and do really quality sketch work. He was definitely up for anything. I love this. I'm super pumped to talk about Adam Driver. Yeah, it's going to be a great conversation. Anyone in mind off the top of your head? Not at all.[18:15] I'll put the fillers out there. I'll get somebody good, I'm sure of it. Yeah, that's great. All right. I'm up next. And I'm going to go with an old favorite.[18:27] To me, the first season of SNL that my little peepers got to see was Lauren's first year back. I saw the back half of that season. and was blown away. I had seen some Eddie Murphy episodes prior to that, but not much, and I don't have memories of them. But that season, I have memories. I have memories of one particular actor, and it's not Dennis Miller, who I thought was the coolest dude of all time, but the guy that made me laugh the most consistently because he was hammy, but not in a hammy way. And it's John Lovitz who I'm talking about. I think he's got a terrific resume. He was one of the very few. Nora Dunn, Dennis Miller, and he were the only survivors of the massacre that ensued following that season that Lauren came back. And they carried over into what became the second golden era of Saturday Night Live. In many ways, they formed, you know, the foundation of the next.[19:47] 20 years of that show you had the you know with the weekend update you had the solo performer doing weekend update you had this character actor that would do fantastic characters all the time and again i'm talking love it's just really terrific stuff uh i'm i'm really excited to see who you line up to talk about john lovitz i'm sure there'll be quite a a few people who want to do that but i'm curious what you guys think yeah people are going to be chomping at the bit to talk to talk about this and i i know off the top of my head at least uh, a couple snl podcasters out there uh would love maybe have already talked to me about hey if you guys do john lovitz let me know that would be one that i'd be interested so i know i have no shortage of options for john lovitz this is such a good one too it's funny jamie i'm keeping track of this i'm typing as as we go along and as soon as you started saying this person stood out to me at the end of lauren's first season i wrote john lovitz i'm like and i'm really excited because and you did me a favor too just like matt did me a favor with adam driver john lovitz was on like my very short list like i i was saying to myself am i really gonna go another draft without picking john lovitz we have to have john lovitz on on the season so i'm so excited about this jamie.[21:09] Great minds. He was on my list as well, honestly. I mean, like Tommy Flanagan, the devil in the people's court, you know, like just these consistently hilarious.[21:19] I mean, at the time when I was a kid, I didn't get him as much. But going back and rewatching him, I was like, I get it now. I get why everybody loves him. And I just think my tastes were not refined enough to appreciate him at the time. But yeah, having gone back and rewatched his era, I watched it on TV at the time, too. He's just a freaking genius. He knows when to go big. He knows when to be small.[21:54] And he'll do completely bonkers characters. And right now, he's adopted this, you know, well, I say right now, but over the last 25 years, he's adopted this butt of all jokes, you know, SNL based.[22:11] And I think that's hilarious. Like when they did the Immemorium, and he was on there. There's been other instances as well. So a lot of fun. Yeah absolutely yeah john love it's awesome so we're back to me uh i'm gonna um pick a cast member i'm gonna utilize one of my cast member choices and we've talked about molly shannon congratulations molly on being an so hall of famer we've talked on a gas dyer so i'm gonna go with a very talented woman who who was.[22:42] Their cohort who often upstaged them and who maybe popped dropped even more so than the other two which is saying a lot uh we haven't heard a ton from her since snl but i still think sherry o terry should get some love and get an episode of her own wow so i want to choose sherry o terry uh as my choice we're gonna have a sherry o terry episode and i think it's well deserved i think she was a big uh really big part of the resurgence of snl back in the late 90s oh totally agree like she was just like an amazing workout horse great great impersonations and impressions and just terrific a terrific energy like like i mean it was she was in a cast with some really amazing people but she always you know she could hold her own you know with with the rest of rest of the cast and her barbara walters is like when i imagined barbara I actually imagine her impression more than I imagine actually Barbara Walters. And it's like that just speaks to how much of a stamp she put on her performances. Yeah, I think in particular, her work with Will Ferrell was spectacular.[23:54] They found each other in scenes together quite often. And she could keep up with him physically and emotionally. You know, turn a phrase in a character type way. Really terrific stuff. Yeah, I can't wait. We've talked about a lot of the people from that era, and they're always really fun conversations because a lot of listeners, some of my guests, that's like their prime SNL years. It was like the Will Ferrell, Molly Shannon on a gas tire. We've taught Chris Parnell, we've taught Daryl Hammond. So I think it's about time Sherry O'Terry gets her episode. So i'm glad you guys are excited about this one well i guess it's my turn again uh i am going to go to the writer's pool uh for this one i'm going to plumb my gen x credentials and choose one of my favorite sketch you know sketch performers writers um later dramatic actors is Bob Odenkirk. He's, you know, probably in a lot of ways coming out of the writer's room. He don't like a lot of the writers do very successfully afterwards, but they're not necessarily as high profile. Whereas in a lot of ways, he's probably one of the most high profile former writer of the show as an actor, like with Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.[25:22] But, you know, You know, he, you know, his writing with Robert Smigel and Conan O'Brien, but, you know, came out of the Chicago Second City community and created us, created characters like, you know, the the. Chris Farley's inspirational speaker, Matt Foley. And he went on to become like a very big voice in Gen X comedy with Mr. Show and working with Ben Stiller and Chris Elliott and writing for Dennis Miller when he had his own show. So, yeah, I'm just a big fan of Bob Odenkirk and I'd love to see him inducted. Yeah I wonder uh our buddies at the um Saturday Night Network um are definitely great as far as helping us out with credits and stuff so I'm curious there's probably gonna be some Odenkirk stuff that I didn't know that he was behind that I'll find out through this that tends to happen when I start researching the writers and doing all of that so I'm excited to find out a lot of what I don't know about Bob's SNL tenure obviously I think he might get a little bit of a bump too because of Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad and he's still relevant now. So I think we might see what I'll call the Conan O'Brien bump. Maybe not to that level, but I think there's going to be a little bit of a surge for him. But I'm excited to see just what I don't know about Odenkirk.[26:46] Yeah, and it's very little. that uh like i didn't uh i forgot completely about the motivational speaker matt foley being a brainchild of his but i've watched the second city version of it and it's it's you know it's really great i think you are going to find somebody that's going to make a fantastic case for bob odenkirk i would have difficulty being the person to do that because i am not good at research and it's a it's a blind spot for me so i think that that is something that i'm trying to wrap my head around a little bit when i think about him as a as a hall of famer i look at the other writers who are in the hall you get seth myers you get conan o'brien yeah conan o'brien is this outlier. I can't wait to listen to the episode. So, you know, I want to be swayed. Yeah, hopefully it's a good one for you all. I'm sure it will be. I'm looking forward to see who takes on the assignment of being my guest for the Odin Kirk episode. I'm going to go with hosts next.[28:02] And it's someone who breaks my rule that I already outlined, you know, 300 strikeouts or 500 home runs to get into the Hall of Fame. And that's five stints as a host. This gentleman only has four. That's good, Jamie. I was going to talk you out of that anyway. So you shouldn't be so beholden to that. Okay, that's fine. That's fine.[28:28] So i think um i remember a party years ago i was still at an age it was season 19.[28:36] And i was of an age where i had to watch saturday night live live like every like every week like did not miss it and there was this big house party and i put it on and sat down on the couch to watch And I remember it vividly because it was Nirvana hosting. Nirvana was the musical guest, and it was my next nominee's first time hosting the show. And that was all the way back in 1993, I believe. And this is Charles Barkley. yeah and he he's very relevant nowadays because he's he says he claims he's retiring from tv.[29:18] We're recording this uh a little ahead of time uh until it comes out he says he's retiring from tv because tnt uh isn't gonna have basketball right i don't know what's gonna go on with inside the nba i don't know if i quite believe him honestly one of the most entertaining people uh in sports television always entertaining when he hosts snl she's a really charismatic dude just really funny guy uh so i i like this i i have to say i i think that's a great choice because i mean he's one of those few i'm not a big fan of sports personalities right on the show and he's one of the few i felt because i mean i still remember like i were we're months apart in age so uh i was watching that same night and uh that that you know that was a.[30:06] I had my shaggy shoulder length, greasy hair and grubby beard and my flannels. So I was right into Nirvana at that time. And yeah, it was like it was a surprising performance for me to do as well and be as strong as he was. But it was a great, great showing. I think one of the other, you know, sort of not rules, but little guidelines I like to look at for a host is how many eras did they work in? And he also qualifies there for me. His first appearance was again in season 19, and it was 1993. Then we didn't get him again until 2010 in season 35. Then he showed up relatively quickly with Kelly Clarkson in 2012 on season 37.[31:02] But then he wasn't back till season 43 in 2018. So that would have been almost an entire turnover at that point. I think to me that somebody that can host that many good episodes, I think season over season, era over era is somebody that should be at least considered for the Hall of Fame. Do I think he's a first ballot? No, but I think to use the parlance of his former sport, he's a slam dunk at some point. Oh, very nice, J.D. It's like a mic drop on your Charles Barkley. I like it.[31:41] So Charles Barkley is a host. I'm going to pick a host as well. You guys, I have a musical guest. I picked a cast member.[31:50] I'm going to go with the host. Somebody who's been very important to SNL. A former cast member but i don't think she quite has the resume to talk about as a cast member but i think she has some underrated episodes definitely when i went back and looked at her work as a host it surprised me as far as uh how strong she was as a host and maybe it shouldn't because she was a cast member she's hilarious i'm talking about julia louis drive is ah which does break your your rule jamie about she's only a three-timer uh but she she's she's worked with uh at least two different eras she hosted in 2006 2007 and she hosted in 2016 so she's worked with at least two different eras um but she always just really she was a steady hand as a host she did a great job to me the two this is a chance to celebrate julia um just all around as well and i think that's what this show SNL Hall of Fame is about is the chance to celebrate these folks and so I'm excited to celebrate just a super talented woman who has had an impact on SNL maybe I think more so maybe as a host than as a cast member but it'll be fun just to talk about her maybe touch on her entire body of work just a great comedic actor I love Julia Louis-Dreyfus So I want to talk about her for me. It feels when she came back to host, it was very much like a returning champion.[33:15] You know, like she came back and she'd conquered and she was able to, to relish in that glory.[33:21] And, and you know, I was like, I remember watching her in her era on the show and coming back and seeing her. And she's just so much more confident in every scene and so much more like she was great originally, but you see this growth in her. And it was great to see her at the peak of her ability coming back to the show. What I think is fascinating is I don't know off the top of my head if there is another host Hall of Famer that was a former cast member. And I don't think there is. I don't think so. I think this might be the first. Yeah. I think that that's a fascinating aspect of this candidacy. You know, that here she is, somebody that has three years on the show under her belt, and she gets called in. She knows what she's doing, not only comedically and as a comedic actress, but as a former cast member.[34:22] She sort of knows the ropes, and that is terrific fodder for conversation, I think. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's two people, there's two cast members in the SNL Hall of Fame that I think have cases to be in the SNL Hall of Fame as hosts. And I think Will Ferrell and Kristen Wiig probably have cases for both things, which is pretty impressive. Um if we're talking former cast members as hosts you know the two of two of the preeminent ones are already in the hall i think julia is a good uh next level uh as far as that goes yeah well how do you follow julia louis-dreyfus um so i think i'm gonna go with another cast member uh and i was speaking about dr rockhard earlier and i'm gonna go back to his his waiting room.[35:16] And showing Aidy Bryant who is just another one of those incredible talents um solid delivery 10-year veteran on the show just you know her her musical bits you know and on top of that possibly the best Ted Cruz impersonation that I have ever seen um yeah and I mean she got her start like as a producer for comedy bang bang and she just brought that willingness and energy that you get in that LA alt comedy scene to SNL and I thought it was a great addition I did not know that's where she came from that's, amazing the former TV show or the, podcast the TV show oh so cool wow yeah I think this is a another great pick.[36:10] Matt um ad bryant is a spectacular cast member and again she was alongside kate mckinnon you know and kate mckinnon was was gilda radner was jan hooks was kristin wigg you know begat kate mckinnon and yet ad stood beside her and could shine brighter and that to me not all the the time but you know from time to time for sure and that to me is um a great place to start your argument for why she belongs in the hall yeah so beloved i'm curious to see what the voting percentage will be like from her if we're reading the tea leaves with kate mckinnon um it probably won't go in 80s favor the first time um but she's definitely to me she's hall worthy i'll say that and and she's definitely episode worthy this is something when when 80 stepped away from the show this was something that i was excited like i know in a couple years in a few seasons or whatever we're gonna be able to do an 80 brian episode so this is something i've been looking forward to ever since she left the show matt so this this is this is awesome the research is gonna be fun i'm gonna know i'm gonna have a great guest there's people gonna be lining up to talk about 80 bryant she's just such a beloved figure on snl and and i think we're seeing kind of hard to replace.[37:37] Honestly yeah all right so i'm up to bat i'm gonna close my eyes and point no.[37:46] I'm not gonna do that i'm gonna go in order i'm gonna stay in order i did two cast members i did a um host now Now I'm going to do a musical guest slash writer.[37:57] But I'm going to choose a musical guest who was a fantastic songwriter, quite frankly. One of the best songwriters and most well-known songwriters in his generation, which was predominantly the 70s, although adult contemporary played him throughout the 80s. And he made his presence known on SNL, I believe, in 80, 83, and then 86. He was on the Ebersole era he was on the original Lorne era and then Lorne brought him back for that first season I'm talking about if you don't know Randy Newman, who is not my bag necessarily, but I recognize the brilliance in his songwriting and his ability to inflect his sense of humor. He's got a wicked sense of humor, and he uses that in his music in a really fun kind of way. The only contemporary artist I can think of that reminds me of something similar is like Ben Folds. But Ben Folds certainly wasn't ever as big as Randy Newman was or is, although I do love Ben Folds.[39:16] Anyway, I think that's my – well, I don't think. That's my pick, Randy Newman, and I'm sticking to it. Yeah, six-timer Randy Newman. Six-timer, yeah, absolutely. So he had quite an impact on the show. I already have maybe somebody in mind as a guest for Randy Newman.[39:34] So I think not totally like 100% my cup of tea. There's a lot of stuff that he did that I did like, but maybe an era before me. But you can't argue his impact as a songwriter. Just what a reliable guest that he was on SNL.[39:52] So I think this is a really great choice. We're celebrating an older era of SNL that deserves to be celebrated with one of the predominant musical guests from that era. I like it, Jamie. Same here. I mean, like he's one of those performers that, you know, especially in that early era, SNL tapped into the zeitgeist musically in a way that was seldom seen on television. Like, you know, you wouldn't see him on a lot of TV shows other than these shows like SNL pushing the edges of musical talent and bringing in voices that were not necessarily always paid attention to. But I mean, he's gone on to. Yeah, I mean, he's been gone on to become like this cultural touchstone, like the Toy Story theme songs, like all the he's like all sorts of movies and television shows that he's touched. And I think that a lot of that comes back to these six episodes that he did that that helped elevate him so this will be a great conversation good job Jamie I love it so and another musical guest and uh we can see how musical guests of different eras kind of do I'm always fascinated yeah I don't have high hopes yeah but I do I do think uh sorry I said it's the journey that that that's that's what I think that's what's important here it's the journey not like if he makes it or what's that.[41:17] You got it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's important, but, you know, I've learned my lesson with Dave Grohl and I just had to appreciate doing the Dave Grohl episode and whether he gets into the hall, you know, that's, that's, um, I almost have to take that as like a bonus. So I'm up next and I'm, I have another cast member, uh, that I need to, I, so I picked Sherry O'Terry as my first cast member and I'm going to go a little more current than Sherry O'Terry and And talk about Bobby Moynihan. I think Bobby's had such a huge impact on SNL. And he was often, he never was somebody who was looked at as the leader of any of his casts. But he was so, so important. And I think he was always such an underrated cast member. Until he left the show and then people started reevaluating his time at SNL. Completely. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah, people were like, wasn't Bobby Moynihan so good? And then we start thinking of all these characters, all his sketch work. He still loves SNL. He still appears on it. He's an SNL podcast listener.[42:24] I'm about 5% convinced that he might listen to the SNL Hall of Fame. That's how much he loves SNL. So Bobby Moynihan, if you're out there, we love you, and we're going to do an episode on you. For me, he was like, when he popped for me, he just like there's the one sketch and i liked him but you know it's sort of on the fence but my wife's like ah i just i don't he's not but then he did the peppa up in here character and we're just like we're in love we're in love with bobby he's just so brilliant and.[43:03] Yeah, I can't wait to hear this episode. I think you really hit it on the head when you were talking about his departure and reflecting back and, you know, seeing that Bobby Moynihan-shaped hole.[43:19] I think that his versatility is something that isn't discussed enough. He was great in sketches.[43:28] He was great at being a character. and he did weekend update bits of the yin yang that were almost all home runs if that's not hall of fame worthy i don't know what is what i am going to be interested to see is the two current big boys so far are beck bennett and bobby moynihan those are you know sort of current era level hall of fame nominees i'm curious which one will get more ballots this year i don't think either goes in this year but do.[44:05] A little side bet but i'm curious who gets the most ballots yeah yeah maybe we can get a sponsorship from exactly yeah um yeah so i'm glad you guys like this pick bobby monahan super excited to start delving into his all his work uh i mean i know a lot of it a lot of it's imprinted in my mind but it's just so fun to go back and watch him cook like the weekend update desk is something that he he was just he just lived in and made his own riblet and drunk uncle like there's just like things that are so classic oh yeah we still go back to a drunk uncle like just everyone's always like yeah this is a drunk uncle moment yeah definitely yeah so bobby moynihan uh matt circling back around so we're down to the home stretch it's our the final pick for for all three of us so yeah.[45:02] I am going to go back to the beginning. Alan Zweibel, you know, one of the original band of writers, penned for that first season of SNL. He went on to get a really close relationship with Gilda Radner, writing a memoir about the relationship, Bunny Bunny, Gilda Radner, a sort of love story, which was adopted into a play for Gary Shandling, her enthusiasm. Enthusiasm but also he created i i say two of the most iconic sketches of that original era which are belushi samurai sketch and and rosanne rosanna dana i feel like those are two wow yeah those early characters that really you you think back to them it's like they just pop and they're both they're both from his pen so uh yeah that is my final pick yeah i think that's a great pick uh Alan's White Bell, they talk about him being under the Weekend Update desk, handing off jokes. He was a joke writer. That's what he was. He was a joke writer, and he was among the last people to be hired, I think.[46:11] But they knew what they needed, and they knew that he could deliver, and deliver he did. Bonding early on with Gilda Radner, using that bond to create. An iconic character, co-create an iconic character, like you say, that may have overstayed her welcome. But she was on quite a bit those first couple seasons. But nevertheless, she was great. And he's great. And I think that the people that listen to this show are.[46:47] Need to start understanding that this is a show that has performers that do great work and are coming from a school of improvisation. But virtually everything you see every week on Saturday Night Live is written, and it's written by really talented people, and they need to be reflected in the hall as well. Well said here here and uh yeah as why bell when i go back and watch old uh snl episodes he makes me do the leonardo dicaprio pointing at the tv because he will he will appear like you'll see a sketch and then you'll be like oh it's why there's alan's why bell in the background or they used a picture of alan's why bell on weekend update for something or he'll just kind of pop up he's like uh where's waldo uh in that era's why bell will pop up when you least expect him and he had a really funny cameo and a curbing enthusiasm as well he had a funny interaction with larry david uh when he ran into him in new york city at a bar that one of my favorite scenes in the show's history is why belt was a part of so we love oh oh this is gonna be a fun one to listen to yeah i've got a lot to learn and that is where i start with my wild card pick i've got Got a lot to learn. I don't know a lot about this next fella.[48:07] I know not a lot about him because of the era he came into, but I know that he was part of the bread and butter. There was Eddie Murphy carrying the load, but the glue guy was Joe Piscopo. I felt you were going there. And Joe Piscopo is somebody that I think, while he's got some interesting things to say these days, I think that reflecting back on his actual career, which is what we want to do and we want to look at, I think that he was pivotal. He was pivotal. There are a handful of people that are responsible for SNL staying afloat. I'm not going to say keeping it alive in this case, because I don't think he was that valuable a cog.[49:02] Uh over overall but he kept it afloat for sure like he was somebody who kept it afloat he was he was a steady rower and it was a time that things were not steady other than steady eddie of course so joe pescabo he's got my back he's probably the most buff uh former cast member in the show's history if i i would i mean i haven't done the proper research for this uh but But my guess is he's the most ripped cast member in history. What do you guys think? I have to agree. Beck Bennett is surprisingly close, but I think Joe in his heyday has that title. I think he's the only one who's appeared on a men's health magazine, that's for sure. Probably. Never saw Kyle Mooney in men's health.[49:53] Now I've got that sketch in my head where he got like wearing the bodysuit like. Like, that's what Joe Piscopo actually looked like at one point. Let's write a sketch about Joe Piscopo. Jamie, this is great. I think people always talk about Eddie Murphy, rightfully so. Like, Eddie Murphy was amazing in that era. But Joe, Joe Piscopo was right there with him in a lot of these classic sketches. Sketches and i think i know a lot of snl super fans who really go to bat for for talking about how how important joe piscopo was and what an actual like good cast member he was uh so this will be uh really neat to go back and watch frankly a lot of sketches that sort of get lost in time from that era if eddie murphy wasn't a part of them um it's almost like they just kind of get lost in snl history so this will be a fun one for me and when you find them out there they're They're usually hacked to bits, right? Like there's like three sketches and then meet one musical performance or something like that. You know, exactly. What have you got for us, Thomas? Oh, sorry, man. Sorry. I was just going to say, I can't wait as well. Like I, I mean, he's such a, he, I love his mobster characters when he, when he goes into that sort of like rat rat pack, channeling like uh frank sinatra that he would often do yeah and they use that like that like later on in his career he appeared on star trek the next generation as like a rat pack era.[51:21] Comedian and yeah like he mentored data on how to be a stand-up comedian and it's just like he just He exudes the feel of that era, but that's because he just is so good at committing to a bit. So, yeah, I can't wait. Thomas, you're bringing this home. Yes, sir. I'm rounding this out. I have a wild card pick as well, and I'm going to add another host into the mix and end it with a host. It's a five timer. So I'm adhering to that to that loose rule, I guess, of having a five timer. It's somebody who actually hosted six times between 1982 and 1999. Bobby Moynihan apparently actually impersonated this person on the show one time. So I'm talking about Danny DeVito. Danny DeVito. I was going to guess that. Yeah. So it's Danny DeVito. He was always like a very reliable host. He hosted one time with his wife, Rhea Perlman. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I remember him having memorable sketches of really funny. Everybody talks about the delicious dish with Alec Baldwin, but Danny DeVito was in a really clever delicious dish sketch in his own right that I'll definitely talk about. I always loved Danny. He's such an interesting, quirky personality.[52:41] And it's just going to be so fun to chat about his hosting gigs at SNL. Like I said, 82 to 99. So not quite like he never hosted with a lot of the new cast. But he's got to see a lot of SNL so Danny DeVito is my choice, I like it. It's a bold choice. It's sort of sitting in the bushes, you know, but it's very obvious once you play those cards. And the fact that the run is from 82 to 99, and you got a lot of quality appearances you know again another stat quality appearances.[53:31] They together with ria perlman i thought um was a fun episode and for a time it almost seemed like he was going to challenge alec baldwin he even had the episode with his spouse You know, they were rolling out around the same episodes, and then Baldwin just took off in a bolt. I think that Danny DeVito is somebody that will, you know, probably hit around the 35% mark in his first year, which to me is somebody that's likely to get in. But it'll take a couple years of us pestering people and telling people, no, no, watch the episodes. This guy was really good. And Danny DeVito is one of those interesting. I remember watching Taxi as a kid and he was just like so abrasive. But it was again, it comes back to his.[54:32] His capability of understanding the moment and what he needed to bring to any scene. And then, you know, you go on to watch twins and all of this stuff growing up. I actually don't remember his SNL days. So I'm going to have to go back and rewatch those episodes. Not quirky sketches. sketches it's very some a lot of them are very danny devito which is a good thing good thing yeah yeah yeah yeah it's gonna be fun yeah definitely i think it's always sunny in philadelphia is gonna help him too because a lot of younger he's very relevant yeah a lot of younger people like it's always sunny i like it my my uh 16 year old niece loves it so that's you know he he a lot of people from different generations know danny devito and i think it's always sunny he's going to help him a lot here. I wonder if he'll come back. I wonder if he'll do a stint again. Yeah, I was looking at hosts. If that show ends or something. I think he'd be game. He's really game for anything.[55:31] He's not a person to turn down an opportunity to perform. So I would say he'd go for it. Maybe we can hire him for the SNL Hall of Fame Christmas party this year. Oh, I'll put some fillers out. I'm efforting as we say in the business. Well, Thomas, do you want to run down our picks one more time? Absolutely. So in order of whether they're drafted, we have... Garrett Morris, Beck Bennett, U2, Adam Driver, John Lovitz, Sherry Oteri, Bob Odenkirk, Charles Barkley, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, A.D. Bryant, Randy Newman, Bobby Moynihan, Alan Zweibel, Joe Piscopo, and Danny DeVito. I spared you guys my Don Pardo impression. I drew that, by the way, so you're welcome.[56:27] Listen i think that that's a formidable class of nominees rather not inductees but nominees i think that uh we've got an interesting season at our at our hands on top of those 15 episodes of course we're going to do another don pardo award there will be of course our famous round roundtable episode and then we'll wrap it all up with the class of season six. I wonder who on the ballot will make it. It'll be interesting to see. Thomas, Matt, thanks so much. This was a blast. That was great. Well, that's what we've got for you. So if you do me a favor and on the way out, as you pass the weekend update exhibit, turn out the lights because the SNL Hall of Fame is now closed.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Garrett Morris talks with Wouter Swierstra  and Niki Vazou about his work on Haskell's type classes, how to fail successfully, and how to construct a set of ponies.

This week Matt & Todd discuss The Stuff. A fun little creature feature satire with elements of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Blob. It skewers commercialism, advertising, food manufacturing and even right-wing militias. Written & Directed by Larry Cohen. Starring Michael Moriarty, Garrett Morris, Andrea Marcovicci, Paul Sorvino and Scott Bloom.

Episode 287: GARRETT MORRIS Keith Reza and Alan Lee interview SNL legend/actor Garrett Morris! Garrett is also best known for 2 Broke Girls.  Support the show on https://patreon.com/rezarifts61 Follow Keith on all social media platforms! https://www.facebook.com/realkeithreza https://www.instagram.com/keithreza https://www.twitter.com/keithreza https://www.tiktok.com/keithreza Book Keith on cameo at  www.cameo.com/keithreza Check out my website for dates at https://www.keithreza.com/ Subscribe - Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts - Tell a friend :) Be a Rifter! #keithreza #garrettmorris #rezarifts #comedy

Host Kim Singleton discusses the 1976 classic film "Car Wash" with digital ideation & visual artist Inez Brown. "Car Wash" takes a comedic look at a day in the life of employees of a car wash. The ensemble cast includes Ivan Dixon, Bill Duke, Franklin Ajaye, Antonio Fargas, Tracy Reed, Ren Woods, Leon Pinkney, Garrett Morris, Richard Pryor and the Pointer Sisters.https://www.instagram.com/consider_it_blacklit/

Host Kim Singleton discusses the 1976 classic film "Car Wash" with digital ideation & visual artist Inez Brown.  "Car Wash" takes a comedic look at a day in the life of employees of a car wash. The ensemble cast includes Ivan Dixon, Bill Duke, Franklin Ajaye, Antonio Fargas, Tracy Reed, Ren Woods,  Leon Pinkney, Garrett Morris, Richard Pryor and the Pointer Sisters.Thank you for listening and consider yourself Blacklit!Connect with Consider It Blacklit on Social Media:IG @Consider_It_BlacklitThreads @Consider_It_BlacklitFacebook @ConsiderItBlacklitX (Formerly know as Twitter) @WeAreBlacklitTik Tok @ss2kmedia

Ferris Butler and his biographer D.B. Frick joined me to discuss his garage band version of SNL "Waste Meet News"; his love for Sid Caesar and Ernie Kovacs; Brooklyn in the 50's and 60's; his pilot for the Vintage Seltzer Hour with Michael O'Donoghue and Garrett Morris; going to NYU film school and being taught by Martin Scorsese and classmates with Billy Crystal; creating Waste Meat News; having Radames Pera on; the budget; New York Magazine says Waste Meat is being copied by SNL; getting hired by Jean Doumanian; how the crew was excited for new season. but the press was already hostile; not getting anything on the premiere; getting Leather Weather on the Malcolm McDowell show; writing the tag to Eddie Murphy's first appearance; writing Tort-U-Matic and her monologue for Jamie Lee Curtis; co-writing Reagan Co for the Robert Hays episode; Howard Stern has beef about his Leather Weather Girl vs. Ferris' sketch; writing the Kung Fu prostitution sketch and slipping a watersports joke by the censors; the difference between head writers Mason Williams and Stevens and Moore; writing one joke for Weekend Update; Brian Doyle-Murray; Bill hosts; he was recommended by Letty Aronson; more Bill Murray stories; is Ferris Butler, Ferris Bueller - Del Close wanted to do a movie about him, Quentin Tarantino believes it; writing "Prison Confession" sketch for Ray Sharkey episode; writing a sketch that got cut at dress; writing the "Big Brother" sketch for Deborah Harry episode; the re-evaluation of season 6; Name That Sin; musical guests; saving his sketches; not being surprised Dick Ebersol didn't as him back; not getting credit for writing for SNL; not being invited to any anniversary; Waste Meat News is in the Paley Center for Media

This week on the program we welcome our friend Deremy Dove into the hallowed halls to discuss the career of funny man Tracy Morgan. Join us won't you? Transcript:[0:41] Thank you so much, Doug and Nance. It is fantastic to be here with you all.And there are quite a few of you. I can see you queued up outside the SNL Hall of Fame.My name is J.D., and it is just a thrill to be with you here on this lovely Monday.We have got a fantastic show for you.But before we go any further, I feel it necessary to tell you to wipe your feetbefore coming into the hall. all.Now, back when I was a wee lad, my mother scolded me once for making a messof the floor, and ever since then I feel compelled to tell people to wipe their feet.There. I've said it. It's finally out in the public, and I feel great.Thanks for being my therapist by proxy. The check is in the mail.The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair fair where each episode we takea deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest,or writer and add them to the ballot for your consideration.Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener,to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall.And that's how we play the game. It's just that That simple. You listen.You vote. We tabulate. We announce.Track 2[2:06] Repeat after me. You listen. You vote.We tabulate. And we announce. Speaking of announcements, our good friend MattArdill is standing around loafing.It looks like, hey, if you've got time enough to lean, you've got time enough to clean, young man.Track 3[2:25] Hey, JD, I saw the new exhibits on the way in. I really like the Norm Macdonaldhat collection that we've got going on.Turd Ferguson, that Turd Ferguson hat and that big hat. It's funny.Yeah, you can't go wrong with a funny hat. That's right.How are you doing? I'm excellent right now. Yeah, I'm pretty good.What have you got for us this week? I have got an awesome player of Tracy Morgan.So I'm really looking forward to sharing some facts about him. Well, let's do it.Great. Well, Tracy's 5'9", born November 10th, 1968.He has 67 acting credits, five producer credits, and eight writing credits.Born in Brooklyn and raised in Marlborough Houses and Tompkins Houses in Bedford.He was actually named after a platoon mate of his father who shipped off withhis dad to Vietnam, but was killed in an action within days of deployment.Track 3[3:31] So his dad was very close to this guy, and so that's why he got that name.Um yeah he went on tomarry his high school sweetheart and began hiscomedy career at the age of 17 by performing stand-upon street corners in new york he had his datefirst debut as hustle manon the television show martin sohe's been working hard since he was akid um and it shows i meanhe lists his influences as carol burnett lucille balljackie gleason which i actually see the mostin a lot of what he does uh martin lawrenceeddie murphy and richard prior uh buthe learned about that is a great pedigree huh yeah that's athat's a really good good lineup but yeah the thingis he he says he learned his comedy first fromhis dad who taught him about jonesing whichis basically roasting people he put put himon his lap and they would roast people on the the streetand he also drew from his uncles who he said were also very funny so you knowit runs in the family um you can actually see his first stand-up gig which isan apollo theater amateur night on youtube so if you want to go out and seehis first big break it's there for you to find.Track 3[4:52] I'm going to have to watch that. Yeah. Yeah. You don't get that.See that with a lot of comedians. No. Yeah.He nicknamed all the talk show hosts that he's appeared with.So David Letterman is D rock.Jimmy Fallon is Jimbo and Conan O'Brien is C black.Track 3[5:08] The line between Tracy Morgan and Tracy Jordan is remarkably thin. That's right.Yeah. So he has lobster for dinner every day.He does in fact own sharks. He has, at this point, 15, and he has a backyard tank.And now, to be fair, he has a very close relationship with his daughter,who wants to be a marine biologist.So at least partially he's doing this for her. Oh, it's a shark pony.Track 3[5:40] Yeah, it's a shark pony. Yeah, some people get pony ponies.She got a shark pony. um yeah toentertain his daughter uh and her friends he turnshis basement into a haunted house and he goes allout to the point he every halloweenhe actually won't go into the basement because he's afraid ofthe haunted house that he sets up in his own house umthat's spectacular now he whendrinking he does have a alter ego uh namedchico divine that he describes as thethe coolest dude who would never hurt anybody but chicodid at least piss piss one person off as princekicked chico out of his house uhfollowing a pre-grammy party he got a little out of control um now the thingis this actually helped turn tracy's life around because he got a dui whichled to a confrontation between himself and his son and from that point on he's been sober.Track 3[6:39] Wow. Good for him.Track 3[7:09] So it was a real uh great great thing for him to do to honor his dad that is great,what a tear-jerking end to trivia this week yeah a little bit more serious and and uh,intense uh trivia but it was one of those things where it's like you know iwas reading it i'm like should i you know leave this out because it's a littledown but it's like it really helps explain explain a lot of his comedy and thecharacter behind Tracy.I mean, I've met people who've done shows with him and they say he's like a really sweet dude.And this is where a lot of this comes from. Awesome.Well, our friend, Jeremy Dove is here and he is down with Thomas right now.So let's turn it over to those two.Track 4[8:30] All right. Matt Ardill, JD, thank you so much for that.And I am excited today because we have, first of all, a great guest.Second of all, really interesting nominee.Track 4[8:45] Very different nominee. And I think my guest today and I talking before we hitrecord, that's kind of the word that came up was different.Tracy Morgan is such a different cast member. He has such a different vibe comparedto a lot of people that have been on the show.So this is going to be a fun one to get into. So to talk all things Tracy Morganand SNL, I have with me my guest for today, my friend, a great guest on theSNL Hall of Fame in the past.He's been on for Dick Ebersole, Adam McKay, been on a roundtable.Track 4[9:21] Great guy, I think, to chat about Tracy Morgan. Deremy Dove.Deremy, how's it going, man?Thomas, I'm honored by your kind words, and I'm honored to be here to talk aboutsomeone who is, as you said, just so different in SNL history.We're going on near 50 years, and it's always you think like, oh, you've seen it all.But with Tracy Morgan, he is one of one.He's definitely one of one. With Tracy Morgan, it's a lot about vibes.So we're going to vibe out today on some Tracy Morgan.So you're a podcaster, obviously.So you have the Bigger Than The Game podcast with Jose Ruiz. I'm a fan.Tell everyone what's been going on over at Bigger Than The Game, man.Well, we just did our most recent episode was on the 60th anniversary of SonnyListon versus Cassius Clay, who later became Muhammad Ali.And it was just, like, incredible that, like, man, it's been 60 years sincethat legendary and epic match.And it was kind of fun to look at. I know you'll enjoy this, Thomas.Track 4[10:29] In the same month, February of 1964, the Beatles went on Ed Sullivan and youngCassius Clay Muhammad Ali upset Sonny Liston to become heavyweight champion.Champion and it's like man in that month two thingsthat really changed not only the decade but the way welook at pop culture sports everything twoof the biggest figures of the 20th century the Beatles and Muhammad Ali reallyemerged all in that same month so it's just really fun to kind of get into justwhat this match set up for the rest of the decade and the rest of the 20th centuryas far as sports I love it you guys talk sports history but you break it downyou put Put it into that context.You talk about all the narratives surrounding the sporting event or whatevertopic you're talking about at the time.You and Jose do such a great deep dive into all the topics that you cover.So I love it. Thank you. Go check out Bigger Than The Game with Jeremy and Jose.And I'm told you have another podcast. Why don't you tell everyone about that?So it's this show called Pop Culture 5.It's me and this guy. What's his name? I think it's Thomas Senna oh my goshthat's right we do have a podcast together we have a show I mean who would have thought it so,that has been just so fun to do the show with you man my friend and.Track 4[11:53] We look at anything in music, movies, TV shows, and we're picking five essential things from that.So if it's TV, it's episodes, music, it could be songs for an actor, a director, movies.And we're just kind of talking about our five essentials. And depending on who'sthe host, if you're the host that week, you get three.The co-host gets two, but gets veto power.So it's really like a fun twist on it. And we've gotten nothing but great responses,and I've just really enjoyed doing the show with you, man.Yeah, I look forward to it every week, recording episodes.I love deep diving into our topics at any given week.So one week, I'm all about Nirvana.One week, I'm deep diving into Spike Lee movies and Spielberg.And so it's just been a lot of fun, man. And I think when this Tracy Morganepisode gets released, we'll be up to 25 episodes around then, something like that.Yeah. Yeah. So being released because we have some banked. So this has been– I think we found a really nice groove.Absolutely. Absolutely. Big credit to you for that, man.And you too. So everybody go check out my podcast and Deremy's podcast, Pop Culture 5.Track 4[13:14] Today, we're here on the SNL Hall of Fame. See, I got to get into SNL Hall of Fame mode.Yeah. Yeah, I was going to do this introduction like I was on Pop Culture 5,but we got to get into SNL Hall of Fame mode here.I know, it's a brain shift. It is a brain shift.So, today we're talking about Tracy Morgan here on the SNL Hall of Fame.Tracy joined the cast when he was 27. He auditioned at the same time as Stephen Colbert.Track 4[13:38] Stephen Colbert and Tracy Morgan auditioned, and Tracy auditioned with a littlekid character named Biscuit. Have you seen his audition?I have. I have seen it. Well, can you describe his audition and who Biscuit is?Because it was a really memorable audition to me. I'll be honest, right?Track 4[13:57] It's really weird. For the whole audition, there's certain people,like when you watch Phil Hartman's and Will Ferrell, and to me,it's just like, oh, that's a lock.Track 4[14:06] That guy has to be on. or even Jimmy Fallon forTracy's it was really like I'm likeman like it's not that it's not funny but it'sjust so it's just so different and unique andI'm just like I wonder what they talked aboutin the room once he like got done and saidthank you like you know what I mean because like you mentioned Biscuitand Biscuit was just this I'm probably gonnastruggle to describe but like just this odd character thathe kind of like had I feel like he did it from his stand-up days yeahit was like a little kid who was this kindof shy kid but not almost a socially awkward kidbut he would but then the premise was that he was asked torecite like a christmas poem or something yeah soit was like he was this shy kid but like hewas awkward but would kind of say these like weirdlike i don't know sassy kind of stuff at times like itwas was just really like it was differentit was just so weird for a character to biscuit littlekid named biscuit that's like definitely a tracy morgan touchon this and so like i mentioned he he and steven colbert were two of the finalistsand i've heard norm mcdonald even say like norm mcdonald was part of the selectionprocess and he watched the uh all the uh people audition and And he even said,he's like, I just assumed that Stephen was going to get it.Track 4[15:31] Yeah. We saw both of them. And even Norm said, I just thought,oh, Stephen Colbert is going to be a cast member. Right.Track 4[15:38] But I don't know. His audition, Tracy's audition won the show over, Jeremy.So one, I mean, what do you think?Track 4[15:50] It was about Tracy that might have won SNL over.And two, that's quite the what if between Stephen Colbert and Tracy. Yeah.Well, number one, I believe Tracy just has raw charisma.There's some people who they're just naturally funny.It's like the guys, like the class clown when you're in school or at the lunch table.Track 4[16:16] They just are funny. and they can almost like readthe phone book to you and they'll crack you upand Tracy has that you know a lot of times comedians they'rethey're you know it's an art form and it's trained it's timing andall those things but then there's just some who break throughwho it's just something about them they just make you all their mannerisms justmake you laugh and you can't pinpoint one specific thing you're like I likethis guy he just cracks me up and Thomas I don't know this is a hot take foryou or not but when i'm thinking about tracy morgan and getting ready for this episode.Track 4[16:52] I think this is lauren michaels most uniquehire and i also think whenit comes to judging how good of a talent evaluator lauren michaels is i go totracy morgan as number one yeah because of it's such a unique hire like thisshows me like lauren he thought outside the box when it comes to who who he's bringing on the cast.No, I don't think that's a hot take. I think I used a different word,but I think it encapsulates the same thing.We were probably both thinking along the same lines. I think it's one of Lorne's most inspired hires.That's a good word. It's a better word. No, it's a different word,but I think unique's a great word too for it. A unique hire, an inspired hire.I have to give Lorne and the other producers, I think Steve Higgins was probably,Obviously, Steve Higgins has been there forever.He's been there longer than Keenan. That's how long Steve Higgins has been there. Yes, yes.So I have to think whoever is in charge, Morrissey. Mm-hmm.Track 4[17:52] Choosing Tracy Morgan, they could have gone the easy route and chose StephenColbert and, you know, just plugged him in.But choosing Tracy was just like such a – it was a conscious,it was a deliberate choice to choose somebody like Tracy.Yeah, I'm wondering, like, if you look at the cast, like, do you think at thetime that they needed somebody like Tracy, like, to feel some sort of thing to add?Well, it's interesting because he came in 96, so he's not part of that 95 castwho saved the show again with Will Ferrell and Sherry O'Terry and everything.But he's still remembered as part of that group, even though he came a year later.He's still kind of grouped in with those guys as part of the group that kind of saved the show.So it's interesting because that's one season kind of removed from the toughesttime Lorne has really had on the show where like the network executives werekind of breathing down his neck and being like, you got to get the show funnier.And, you know, you kind of lost. And we've talked about this before.We kind of understand where they're coming from. That 94, 95 season was not really that good.So I think he was looking for people to kind of had an original voice.I think you hear Lawrence say that a lot when he's doing those interviews.I think he wanted people who were original and kind of got back to.Track 4[19:21] Snl really is and i think he wanted someone totracy's credit who people like towork with and was easy to work with too and ithink that's also a big thing that people don't talk about for tracyi'm glad you mentioned about the show's originalvibe and hearken back to that because there's an element of tracy that i thinkis part of the spirit of the original snl and that's almost that danger aspectyes yes like that unpredictability and that's that's a good thing and tracycould be unpredictable but in like a controlled way he's still a professional,he's still you know it's not like he sabotaged sketches ordid anything like that tracy was a professional but he had this aura vibe abouthim that was uh dangerous or unpredictable i think that did harken back to theoriginal time then that was something to me they probably wanted to shy awayfrom that in season 21 because they had just come off of sandler and farley and they were.Track 4[20:18] Dangerous quote-unquote and unpredictable but it got to bea disruption on the show i think right i thinkthey maybe consciously didn't hire somebody like that for the immediate seasonfollowing sandler and farley and those guys but maybe they re-evaluated andlike let's get somebody who can add that danger that unpredictability i meanis there something to Am I just being a weird SNL fan? No, no. I think there is.It was that tamed. Like you said, it's a controlled danger.It wasn't someone that, oh, he's off the rails and is not willing to work.And I think also he brought a confidence, too, where just from Tracy's background,his upbringing, you know, doing stand-up, I think, as well.Like there's a difference between being an improv actor and being a stand-upcomic. and I think Tracy just kind of did...Track 4[21:11] Not to say he's in this person's ballpark overall as far as SNL,but one thing about Eddie Murphy,when he was a part of that cast that replaced the original people from the firstfive years, a lot of those guys, and I understand, rightfully so,they're replacing the epic first five years. They were scared.They were nervous, all this pressure, the presses on them, and everyone alwayssaid Eddie just had a confidence where he didn't care.He's like, I know I'm good. I'm doing it. And I'm not saying Tracy's Eddie Murphy,but Tracy kind of always gives a confidence of, I know who I am.I don't care what you think. I'm here. I'm ready to go.And I think that's what Tracy kind of really brought. I feel like Lorne andthe others kind of saw in him.He wouldn't be scared of the moment. No, I definitely agree.And Tracy was confident in the material. He's like, I know this is funny.I know my inflection's funny. I just know what's funny about this.And so I'm going to get on screen and show you. So that, yeah,that's such a good point.And I think another element, especially around this time, 96,when Tracy got hired, that fascinates me.It's hard to think about Tracy getting cast around this time,to me, without thinking about SNL's history, somewhat tenuous history with black cast members.Track 4[22:26] So I'm wondering, Jeremy, like, can you talk about the show's history with blackcast members, like up until that point, and even like on?On yeah yeah it's always it's beensomething um i remember when ifirst saw tracy do stand-up comedy was after hehad left snl but people in the crowd wereyelling out like you know brian fellows and everything and hemade the joke that honestly my whole life i heard which is like black peopledon't watch snl except for when eddie murphy was on there right in my wholelife people my own family a lot of said i felt weird because me and my brotherliked it but they were like ohwe don't watch that except for when Eddie Murphy was on and it was always,you saw what happened in the original cast with Garrett Morris and how,you know, he really was neglected and just kind of stereotyped and.Track 4[23:15] Made to just either wear drag or just play this token black.And I think Eddie Murphy, he talked about his struggles and he had those battlestoo, but he was such a star and the show had no stars.So he kind of really emerged and became that guy.But then you see Damon Wayans came and he had struggles and just frustrationsof being that only black voice.Track 4[23:40] And you're seeing a room filled with white people who don't understand you.Not willing to really understand you becausethey're going to go to this performer who they either knowor feel like will get their work over better they're notsitting down trying to understand your comedic sensibility understandyour background and you know you saw that from damonit went to you know chris rock had the same battles and hereally struggled there where everyone here knows chrisrock and legendary stand-up comic but if hewasn't who he became came after SNL no one reallyremembers what Chris Rock did in that time and that'sa glorious time those early 90s of SNL soreally you look at from Eddie Murphy by thetime Tracy comes on there you know Tim Meadows was onbut he you know did his roles andstuff like that but didn't really like stripe it and I feel likenow he gets a little more appreciation forhis time on SNL but I feel like he was kind of like an underrated hecould do a lot of things but minus likeyou know the oj when the oj trial happenedi feel like that kind of helped him out and then the ladies man a little bitbut never really got that shining star treatment that i think tim meadows shouldhave gotten too so i think tracy is really an interesting um i guess like amarker for blacks being on the show where.Track 4[25:05] He still battled it too, and I know we'll talk about that, but he kind of reallyset the stage to me for Kenan, for Leslie Jones, Jay Pharoah.He was that guy to kind of really set the stage for seeing SNL starting to improveon that relationship with Black cast members.Oh, that's really great perspective and well put. And even though we're allSNL fans, love the show, I wouldn't be doing an SNL podcast if I didn't love the show.But there's also in the show's 49-year history stuff that they need to reckon with.You know, this is their treatment of women, their treatment of black cast members,maybe not enough representation.Yeah. Even like as a Latino myself, I always kind of look like about Latinorepresentation as well.I mean, that's just the reality of it and something that I know.You know, SNL, about when Leslie got hired, that's something that they madea conscious effort to get a black woman onto the show.And that was almost spearheaded by Kenan, telling them, you know what,look, you need to hire a black woman.Track 4[26:16] Plenty of qualified black women to do a lot of these roles. You need to get one on the gas.No. Oh, and I think it was shown in the conversations. Like,you look at it when In Living Color came out in the early 90s and just like,okay, then what are we saying here?Like, there's this show on Fox that's reaching this other demographic.And then people are kind of, like, I think kind of trying to say,like, oh, there's not that whole excuse of, well, there's no one to bring on.And it's like, that was a lie. You saw from the Weyans to all these different people.You know, it's funny that Damon Wayans, this great comedic talent,was on Saturday Night Live and was just misused and then becomes an all-timesketch performer on In Living Color, you know, four years later.Like, what's that say to you? Exactly. He was so frustrated on SNL that he sabotaged a sketch. Yeah.The Monopoly Man sketch with John Lovitz. Like, Damon just sort of sabotaged it and he wanted out.Right. Right, and Chris Rock leaves SNL to go to In Living Color because he'slike, hey, that's where my voice will be heard.Now, he picked bad timing because it was the way in –.Track 4[27:26] They left One Living Color, so his timing was off. But the decision to me wascorrect, where it's like, yeah, who's going to get your voice heard and understood?It's like, not Saturday Night Live. And Chris Rock has said there were so manygreat comedic minds from JimDowney, Al Franken, Lorne, and great cast members, great friends of his.But still, he wasn't being represented and wasn't being heard there.Yeah, I think it's an important discussion. and that's whyI think Tracy's one of the many reasons why Tracy's such aninteresting figure to me as far as Tracy goes Jeremy likehow did you get introduced to him how are you like most familiar withTracy was it SNL you see you mentioned his stand-up yeah so he was someone Ibeing you know I know you are too big fan of stand-up comedy you I would seehim on different things and different tapes and stuff like that but honestlyit was Saturday Night Live where it It was like, I was like, oh, that dude.I saw him on like the Apollo doing stand-up and everything.Back when the, you know, Steve Harvey used to host the Apollo and it would air Saturday nights.And I remember seeing Tracy Morgan. And then when I saw him on Saturday NightLive, I was like, oh, that guy.Because like this mid-90s era is when I really started watching SNL live.Track 4[28:40] I would watch the reruns before, but like watching it live was kind of like around 93, 94.So I was really kind of getting into my SNLlike fandom you know the year before and then whenTracy arrived so it was kind of cool to see and ofcourse as a black man when you saw like that other oh they brought on a blackcast member male or female you kind of like oh okay let's see what how theydo and Tracy Tracy in his own way shined through yeah yeah that's awesome soSo we mentioned he started in 96 at SNL was on the show until 2003.What's a we'll dive into it. What's the character sketch that kind of firststicks out to you during Tracy's time?Track 4[29:25] It's one that I kind of, I'll be honest, I didn't really like at first,and a lot of people, like, disagreed with me, like friends, but Brian Fellows is funny.Like, I will give Brian Fellows, and I kind of thought it was,like, overdone and stuff like that, but as I look back on it,and I'm like, you know what, that is, it's classic Tracy.And just the way he does that and just him being this Safari,Brian Fellows, Safari planet and this animal enthusiast, but doesn't have anyidea about any of the animals and always kind of got freaked out by him.And it is really, he's playing Brian Fellows, but in all honesty,it's just different forms of Tracy in all these sketches.That's really funny to me. Our first guest is like a human cactus.Please welcome our porcupine.Track 4[30:16] Ooh, and who are you? I'm Dale Dudley from the Texas Wildlife Sanctuary in Austin. Hello, Austin.Track 4[30:26] No, I'm from the Wildlife Sanctuary in Austin. My name is Dale Dudley. I'm Brian Fellow.Hello, Brian. I want you to meet my porcupine friend. His name is Willie.That rat needs a haircut.So that one and then the classic Christmas band member. I thought, yeah, I loved that.I loved it when it happened. I remember watching it live and loving it.And I still love it to this day when they kind of all got back together likea few years ago to do it. I always loved that.And I love Tracy in it. And just his facial expression always cracked me up.Those are just a couple of the memorable sketches or in moments with Tracy thatI have. I'm glad you brought up Brian Fellow's safari plan at first,and not just because I think this was the most times that he did a character.I think he did it nine times on SNL, so I think that was his most recurring character.But it just, to me, the story behind this just totally encapsulates Tracy's time at SNL and why...Track 4[31:29] He's successful, I think, in a major way.So Norm MacDonald, again, Norm, said that this came about because he and RobertSmigel wrote the Brian Fellows sketch as kind of a rib on Tracy because of theway Tracy would pronounce his S's.Like they wanted to mess with Tracy at the table read and give him somethinghard to read because of how he pronounced stuff.And as far as iknow they did like tracy like norman smigel idon't know like as far as i know yeah yeah smigel sayinganything bad about tracy so i guess itwas all in good fun but i love this becausetracy took something that was supposed to be a jokeon him and turned it into something that was his own andsuper memorable like he's he he basically waslike yeah screw this like in his own little way likethis is supposed to be a rib on me but the joke's onyou because i'm going to make this like a really successful sketch and a characterso that's a big reason why like to me that almost encapsulates big reason whytracy's just successful just in general right he just keeps on yeah and andyou hit on a couple things here which is like,you know rip norm and you know smigel is a great great all-time writer but justlike Like, how messed up that is.Track 4[32:53] And, like, that's a small example of that cultural difference where,like, that wouldn't happen to him on In Living Color.You know what I mean? Or, like, whatever that day's Key and Peele or Chappelleshow, that wouldn't have happened to him.Right. He would have had writers in there who understood, who knew him,like, know his background.They can relate to him. They kind of, like, did it as a spoof.And to your point, Tracy took it. And I think that's what makes Tracy greatis there's just a confidence about him and a no fear kind of mentality.Like because he has that background and I think like, hey, I was out here,you know, selling different items in front of Yankee Stadium a few years ago,you know, just trying to make, you know, $30.So I'm on NBC on Saturday Night Live. What do I have to lose?So he has that kind of fear that was like, all right, you want to like mock it?Fine, let's go. Oh, and he takes it and makes it his most memorable character. Yeah, absolutely.Track 4[33:53] And the sketch itself, his delivery is so great.I think the just genius part about it is Tracy does these characters and hehas this delivery to where it seems like it's an accident.It seems like he's not putting a lot into it, but it's by design.A lot of his inflection, his timing, him being amped up Tracy Morgan,it's by design because he knows that that's going to get the laughs.He knows how to pull laughs from people. Like Brian Fellowes.Track 4[34:26] Just how he pauses or how somebody will say their name on the show and thenhow he'll pause and say, he'll say, well, I'm Brian Fellow.Track 4[34:35] Tracy knows that that pause and then his kind of shoulder shake,the delivery is going to pull the laugh.So it seems like he makes it look so easy and natural, but it's just by designbecause Tracy has that comedic mind.I always was entertained by the Brian Fellow Safari planet because of that.No, and to me, like you said, it was by design. It's just that inflection.But what he did, which I feel like Chris Rock didn't do, and I think a lot ofthe people who were stand-ups on the show before him didn't do,is when you're not an improv person who knows how to do that,like working with others and different characters and acting,a lot of times they say if you're on SNL as a stand-up, it's best to be on aweekend update or have a solo thing where you're on a show.You're looking in camera and kind of doing your own thing, almost like you'redoing standup and Chris rock didn't really figure that out. Right.But I think Tracy, when you have like, you know, he would have a guest on, but from Brian fellows,astronaut Jones, different things, he kind of found his lane and kind of pokedand reconstructed like improv and sketch by doing this, these individual charactersthat really highlighted his sensibility.Yeah. And with astronaut Jones again, like he made it look like,Oh, oh, that's just Tracy playing himself.Track 4[35:57] But he just knew his delivery. Maybe there's danger.He knew how to tap into just how to say something.That one in particular, Ashton Jones, is almost like anti-comedy in a way.There's a big old theme song.Track 4[36:38] The sketch itself is anticlimactic. Oh, yeah.But that's like a lot of anti-comedy. And then Tracy just has to do like just a few little things.I'm just, the Britney Spears astronaut Jones is the one that I always went back to.My name is Craig Ellera. I'm the queen of Orpheoleans. A proud and peace-lovingrace. My people have been awaiting your arrival for some time now.We're in desperate need of your help. The Galaxians have besieged our citiesand plundered our riches. What?Say what? Right. Dig. Uh-huh. Right.Well, why don't you drop out of that green jumpsuit and show me that fat ass?Track 4[37:25] It's like a one-joke thing, but it's like anti-comedy in a way, but that's just like,you brought up such a good point, Jeremy, me earlier abouttracy's just a different funny personhe's like that got the your friend at the lunch table yourfriend who just makes you you should read the phone book and crackyou up and things like astronaut jones arelike a perfect example to me no for sure actuallyand you you nailed it on what makes that you know that because i rememberthat britney spears and it was almost what was funnywas just a dichotomy of having britney and tracy togetherand it's like the odd couple effect waslike that cracked you up just being like britney spearsand tracy morgan like having even though like it's scripted andstuff but like having a conversation it just was odd but like itwas that alone made you laugh but i remember um i think it was season 25 andjamie fox was the host and it was a time where uh it was like you know in betweenwe're like you know jamie's walking and tracy's like oh what's up jamie what'sup man he goes i'm glad we got some some brothers on the show,and Jamie's like, oh, yeah, yeah.Because Tracy's like, yo, these writers don't understand me.They don't get me or that dude with the white hair.And Jamie's like, you mean Lorne Michaels?Track 4[38:38] He's like, I don't know, whatever. He's like, he's your boss.He's like, yeah, he's just always saying weird stuff and doing weird things.And he's like, I'm going to be on the show a lot this week with you here,and we're going to take over. Revolution will be televised.And Jamie's like, yeah, you know, he kind of looks all quiet,like he's sneaking something.He's like, you're right, man, we're going to take over. I got mad lines,man, and this week I'm blowing up the spot.That's what I'm saying. All right, come on, let's go. We're in the middle ofa show. Okay? Yeah, yeah, all right.Jamie? Give me a soda, bitch!Track 4[39:16] Okay all right but it was one ofmy favorite tracy morgan moments because he just just thatline get me a soda like he just nailedit bitch yeah yeah bitch and lauren just goes okaylike i'm like that was great that was like that dangerousaspect of tracy i always love likehe's he's like one of the only ones that could pull that offconvincingly quite honestly we're inseason 49 and i think the current cast ismissing someone like that for sure if they tryto do a backstage and like i wouldn't andrews music is myfavorite cast member currently i don't think hecould pull that off convincingly james austin johnson idon't think keenan can it's not in keenan's nature necessarilyto like pull that off convincingly they don't havesomeone currently like tracy morgan thatadds that kind of unpredictability danger thisbackstage stage stuff with lauren that he did he because he did that a fewtimes the garth brooks one was another yes funny oneto me when he was talking to garth brooks and he was like manthat chris gaines i don't know like uh you're doinga great job garth but like what's up with that chris gaines guy and whateverand then lauren comes to talks to tracy and and he's like hey tracy you knowand then tracy's like no i know i know i know garth is chris gaines i know thatso it's almost like yeah yeah like a turnabout like he's just telling laurenlike i know that you like you got to give Give me some credit.Track 4[40:37] And then I don't know if it was this one or another one where all he has todo is look at Lauren and Lauren goes, orange soda, right? Yeah.Track 4[40:47] So credit to Lauren for playing along. But Tracy's the only one or one of thefew, I think, over the last 25 years or so that could pull something off likethat convincingly. And I think you're right.And it's not a knock on cast members past or present. you said Kenan's greatthat's just not who he is and the people who were on with Tracy that's not who they were like.Track 4[41:13] You can't find like you can't teach that what tracyhad like just like it just comes fromit's part natural part upbringing inyour experiences but like i i alwaysthink about something um jim brewertold a story uh i forget what radioshow he was on but he talks about you knowhim and tracy kind of were high around the same time and itwas the week that you know tragically like when farley cameand hosted and how he was just not in not ingood good shape and uh marcyhe said marcy went to because he was not doingwell during the week and not showing up and was not all thereso he was trying to hang out withlike different people in the cast and jim brewer's like me andtracy weren't doing that but then like marcy andpeople were looking at those to and kind of putit on them like oh you two must be getting chris into troubleand so they said marcy went intolike the office talked to jim and tracy and waslike you two need to stay away from chris so doall these things and like leave him alone and jim brewerwas like you know i'm new so i got nervous and scared andhe said credit to tracy he said tracy stood upand said i'm a grown man with children's you can't talk tome that way i got children's you ain't gonna talk tome like that and he was like but credit to him he's likehe's i didn't do nothing i'm a grown man with children's andi'm like yeah and jim brewer said andi'm like right like he was like no new or not you're not going to come in and.Track 4[42:43] Accuse me something i didn't do and disrespect me i'm gonna stick up for myself.Track 4[42:46] And jim brewer's like he got courage from seeing tracy to be like yeah we didn'tdo anything we didn't take chris out we're not the bad influences here don'tyell at us but that But Tracy was new,and him doing that to Marcy, who's a high-up person,that shows the kind of courage he came in with.Well, yeah, that's that thing where you were right.You alluded to, I mean, he was selling things outside of Yankee Stadium justa few years back, and now he's on SNL. He made it.Track 4[43:18] He's making that salary. That's why he said during a...When he was going to his audition, he was confident because he was like,I shouldn't even be here.The fact that I'm in this last audition, I got nothing to lose.I'm going to go in here and just show my stuff and just be confident.That's just how he carried himself. He's almost like, I shouldn't be here.I already won. The fact that I'm in this room, I already won,so I'm not going to compromise myself and stand down to Marcy Klein or something like when she comes in.Track 4[43:52] And tries to yell at us for something that we didn't do, especially.That just speaks a lot to how Tracy even got to the show. Right.No, for sure. For sure. It just kind of shows, especially by the time you getto the 90s and on, even before then, but that is the goal of so many improv actors.Whether you're at Second City or the Groundlings or whatever,is to make it to Saturday Night Live.That's the goal. So then, of course, no matter how talented you are,if you're on that level and trying to get to SNL, if you get there,you're going to be, especially early on, nervous.And I'm not knocking anyone, but scared because this was your dream.This is the big time SNL. I can make it here.I can maybe be a movie star or a TV star from here.So then you're trying to kiss up to the writers and the big time producers.Juicers i think it was an advantage for a guy like tracymorgan you know same like it was for eddie back in theearly 80s that wasn't his they were stand up likethat wasn't their goal and it was just like all right like we know what it'slike to be in front of this crowd on our own and having to make someone laughand when i come here like i'm not intimidated by this stage i made it the factthat i'm already here i made it here let's go what's the worst that could happen to me Yeah,that speaks to why we're even talking about him right now and why he...Track 4[45:18] Resonates as such a fan favorite because it'shis personality it's kind of the vibe that thatTracy gives off that that compel peopleto watch that draw people to him and it comes through in the sketches and hisand his work on SNL for sure like I have a bunch of example I don't know ifyou remember this one it's toward the end if it's like his second to last seasonand he and Rachel Dratch had a it was a one-off thing it was a talking to thestars with Rachel and Tracy and they were talking to Jon Stewart.All right, well, hosting an awards show of that caliber must be quite stressful.Y'all like to get high, right?Track 4[45:59] Uh, no, no, I don't. What? Get real, Dratch.I've been backstage at those awards shows, man. The Source Awards was like Weed City, bruh.Come on, tell me. Y'all like to get lifted, right? Uh, lifted.Lifted um i find if tracy says aword that i don't know it usually means hi oh okay andthis showed like that loose loose canon element oftracy and just like how tracy mightbe if you're just hanging out with him and the bit was like thatrachel dratch is taking the interview with john store.Track 4[46:32] Very seriously she has her cards and she'sasking him questions and tracy's just being tracy he'sjust goofing around he's ribbing dratch he's asking johnstore inappropriate questions ends and that's justlike the vibe like that that one uh thatsketch with with rachel dratch like that perfectly encapsulatesjust that whole vibe to me darren likelike there's a reason like i heard you kind of breakinto a tracy morgan voice like there's areason why people want to like imitate tracy soi'm gonna take you outside and get you pregnant like peoplejust want to get you you pregnant doodoo pampasyeah jay moore does a great there's a great oh yeahbut uh there's a reason why peoplejust want to imitate him and love him and want toimitate his mannerisms and the way he you know because hejust gives off that like vibe yeah there'ssomething that he has that is rare thatsometimes it's more valuable than if you're the most polished orthe best the best writer or the best you know setupguy and you you can see it with certain peopleand you know pop culture even like in politics there'scertain people who have they just have a likability that comes through the screenand people just you like no matter what they might even portray the worst charactersthat are you know they're delivering bad news but you know what people justreally like this person and i think tracy even in that sketch with rachel dratch.Track 4[48:00] You just like Tracy Morgan. I think a lot of us fans just always liked him andgravitated toward him, which is why then and now, for those years,for that era, you hear Will Ferrell, Sherry O'Terry,Molly Shannon, but you're going to hear Tracy Morgan being mentioned too.To me, not just because of what he's done post-SNL, just talking about thatera SNL, for as he wasn't someone who was always used, I think it's incrediblethat we still talk about that era in the show's history,and one of the first names we're going to talk about is Tracy Morgan.Track 4[48:35] Yeah, yeah, right. That's why this is probably a different feeling episode,even for the SNL Hall of Fame, which is fitting to me with Tracy Morgan.He was just a different feeling kind of cast member, just a different dude that we all love.You had mentioned his stand-up, and I've seen a little bit of it.How would you describe his stand-up comedy? buthe raw and all over the place i'veseen him twice and i'll be honest the first time wasat i was at temple university um andhe was about an hour and a half late and hecame out and he seemed unprepared hehad some funny lines just because tracy's funnybut he seemed unprepared and it was kind of like underwhelmingi'll be honest okay i went a couple years later andsaw him new york in New York at a comedy club and heseemed much he was still that like we talked aboutthat raw like danger feel but likehe was more prepared he was on time and he was a lot better as a stand-up comedyso he it's almost in a way what he brings to SNL he still brings to stand-upwhich is I would never say Tracy's like number one stand-up of all time butI would tell anyone like would Would you like,should I buy a ticket to see Tracy Morgan do state? I would say,yeah, because you're going to laugh.Track 4[49:56] You're going to have a good time because of all the things we're talking about.He's just charisma, that sense of danger. You don't know what he's going to say.He doesn't care. He's not afraid of being canceled or not afraid of like someonefrom the crowd may shout something.Track 4[50:10] He's not like worried about that. He's going to fire right back or go along with it.You're going to be entertained and you're going to end up liking him.If you don't know him or you're not sure, you're going to like Tracy.So it's that same kind of vibe.Same vibe. So there's a sense of danger when he does stand-up.But maybe it's a little more chaotic because he doesn't have Lauren or SteveHiggins or Marcy Klein or the censors on him.But similar vibes. Yeah, that's how I felt with some of the stand-up that I'veseen just on YouTube or going back and watching some of bits and pieces of hisspecials or whatever. Yeah.Uh just some quick hitters too from SNL like probably some stuff that a lotof people would remember Dominican Lou.I love to watch the movies the Sling Blade, the Eddie Maguire and the English Pages.It's a good movie a lot of people they enjoy this movie they love to see itthey love to see the Tom Cruise it's very good for them they like it.Track 4[51:18] What was your favorite part of the movie i don't knowi didn't see it i have notime i'm working all the time you know but ihear it's a good movie it's a good movie people in the building they're talkingabout it a lot they love the movie they like to see the movie all the time they'retalking about it oh hell yeah he did three times i love dominican lou becauseit was like Like, Dominican Lou was this, it was a perfect,like, it's a very specific archetype of a person.It's the person who wants to be part of the conversation, but they haven't really,like, lived it themselves.So, Dominican Lou's always like, yeah, like, this thing was good.I hear everybody talking about it. So, he's not really giving his opinion.He's saying that, like, I heard people in the building talk about it.So, it's like this person who really wants to be part of the conversation.They want to be clued in. but they don't have like the firsthand experiencethemselves so they only have a certain amount of,like i said firsthand experience to go off of so he's always like living vicariouslythrough others yeah and he's fine with it yeah you know what you just said somethingthat and maybe i don't know how people will react to this but.Track 4[52:31] When it comes to, like, you look at, like, the legacy of a Dan Aykroyd,one of the things people talk about is the everyday, everyman characters thathe brought to, you know, sketch comedy and Saturday Night Live.That, like, blue-collar guy that everyone knows, but you didn't really see on,you know, sketch and on TV yet, like, being portrayed that way.And I'm wondering, I feel like Tracy Morgan, even though he has some outrageouscharacters, some of his characters kind of—he kind of brought that, too, where—.Track 4[53:01] But not like his main one, not like Brian Fellows or anything,but like Dominican Lou and some other ones like that, where it's like, you know that guy.Yeah. You know that guy, and it was the kind of representation you weren't reallyseeing on Saturday Night Live before.I think you're absolutely right. I see a little bit of that,too, in his Woodrow character.Yes. Obviously, it's like a heightened kind of thing, but I mean,you've come across someone like that.Mm-hmm. And I can see that. And the commonality, too, is like there's some heartunderneath there, too, because somebody like Woodrow, even Brian Fellows,like I root for him. Yeah. He's likable.And we had brought up Britney Spears with the Astronaut Jones,but it was like Britney Spears and Woodrow had had she did a Woodrow sketchwith him and they went they were hanging out in the sewer and having a little conversation.And there's something about how tracy portrayed woodrowwho's this uh he's a homeless gentleman yeahan eccentric homeless gentleman who told britney spears that uh that he hasthe the post office box down there because the because that's where they werehaving keeping secrets on him so he stole it and put it down in the sewer sohe says kind of goofy stuff like that but But there's a lot of human quality.There's a lot of humanity in a character like that. I think it's easy for Tracyto bring that humanity, I think, too.Track 4[54:31] And I kind of wonder, because you mentioned... I know that episode,and I remember all the sketches.Those were two different episodes, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,okay, they're two different ones. I'm wondering, do you think...Track 4[54:45] Britney Spears kind of requested to be with Tracy in some sketches, you think?Or something because it's like, Britney Spears, I mean, people still,I think, know how big she is.But at that point, she's like, you can make a case like the hottest star outthere is Britney Spears.It's not Will Ferrell in these weird ones. It's Tracy Morgan doing these things.So I'm just like, I wonder if Britney was a fan or it could have been the writersjust thinking that's an odd couple pairing.But it's interesting. now that's a good thought so she did thewoodrow one with him in season 25 at the end of season 25and she came back in season 27 that's where they did the astronaut jones andif you watch re-watch the astronaut jones sketch at the end when he says hislike famous when he says his famous line as astronaut jones oh why don't youdrop out of that green jumpsuit and show me that fat ass.Track 4[55:38] When he says that you could see britney laughand i don't know or she's like smiled and i don't know ifthat was supposed to happen like the character because ifshe was supposed to be this robotic alien but when tracysays that you see britney crack a smile at the end and then they go to the themeto the ending credits for the sketch i kind of do think that britney likes tracyand enjoyed and enjoyed working working with him that's like that's a good thoughtman that's It's something that's a good thing to pick up.Yeah, I was just like, because it's just not, for all the people who were onSNL at the time, it's like you could have put a lot of people with Britney Spears,but it's very memorable. So, yeah, I was just wondering, yeah.Yeah, no, I love that. One of my other favorite ones, one of my last favoriteones is Uncle Jemima's Pure Mash Liquor. Yes, yes.Classic. I love the concept of Aunt Jemima's husband having his own product.And he even says in the commercial, like, they asked me, like,why mash liquor? And he's like, well, sell what you know.And I know, like, so Tracy's whole delivery of this sketch was just so greatto hear me. Oh, it was classic.Track 4[56:46] Now she says that selling booze is degrading to our people.I always say that black folk ain't exactly swelling up with pride on accountof you flipping Framjack.Ain't I right, Sammy? Listen, don't get me in this mess. Then she say,but why booze? I said, sell what you know.And I know about booze.Uncle Jemima's Pure Man Snicker has a 95% alcohol content, and that's per volume.Track 4[57:15] What the hell does that mean? That means you get up for less money.And that might be my low-key favorite one.Track 4[57:26] Great like you said like just who wouldhave thought about that like to like you know everyone and jemimaand how controversial and jemima can be looked on and for him to kind of goin there and do like her husband and kind of doing that like you know i getno respect and i gotta sell something to here and don't forget about me feelit was just classic tracy morgan i'm like that's it's a genius character honestlyyeah it's great they only did it one time i would have led to see Uncle Jemima pop up,even more and he has those cartoon birds around him andhe's swatting at them and then at the end Tim Meadows calls itout he's like what are you swatting at he asked him that's hilarious I forgotyep that's so good yeah that's so good that's from season 25 Uncle Jemima'sPure Mash Liquor yeah that was awesome is there anything else like well I thinkthis was after his tenure but,you know everyone I know is excited for the,the big SNL 50th celebration and, you know, how epic the S the 40th was,but Tracy had had that accident that, you know, his friend tragically passed away.And a lot of people thought Tracy, you know, weren't sure if he was going to survive that accident.And Tracy was absent from SNL 40.And I know Alec Baldwin and Tina Fey gave, he had a special little segment wherethey gave shout out to him. And I thought how even in the moment then and even more like now I.Track 4[58:53] How big that was that a lot of times, you know, it's sad, but that those kindof things go to like the cast members or people who have passed away.And Tracy wasn't hadn't passed. He was, you know, just injured.Track 4[59:04] But like he had that kind of lore and Alec Baldwin, you know,did a great impression of him, too.And that part, you know, was dead on. Actually, I was really good by Alec Baldwin.But in that moment, it kind of hit me like, yeah, that was somebody who wasso missing from that celebration.Inspiration and I'm like yeah I wish Tracy Tracy wouldhave been so good in that sketch or in that thinglike oh but awesome but just also like theimpact that Tracy made that for at that 

Hello and welcome back to another episode of B Bin Horror! On this week's episode we talk about the 1985 Horror/Sci-fi film, The Stuff! The Stuff was written and directed by Larry Cohen and stars Michael Moriarty, Garrett Morris, Andrea Marcovicci and Paul Sorvino. On this week's episode we talk about the recently found 30 minutes of footage that was cut from The Stuff, potential sequel ideas, Dylan comes up with his own commercials for The Stuff and we talk about what is happening with Vince McMahon. If you like what you hear please follow us on Instagram and Facebook @bbinhorror. You can also send us emails at bbinhorror@gmail.com and please don't forget to subscribe to B Bin Horror on whatever podcast platform you listen on! *B Bin Horror theme music - "Uprising" by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio*

Garrett Morris: A Versatile Talent: Discussion of Garrett Morris's diverse career, including his roles in film, television, and comedy. Mention of his birthplace, New Orleans, Louisiana, in February 1937, making him 86 years old as of the recording. Notable Roles and Career Highlights: Highlighting Garrett Morris's roles in popular TV shows like "Saturday Night Live," "The Jeffersons," "Martin," "Jamie Foxx," and "Two Broke Girls." Mentioning his appearances on other shows such as "Murder, She Wrote," "Married with Children," "Diff'rent Strokes," "Hill Street Blues," "227," "Rock," and "Who's the Boss?" Unspoken Hero of Film: Emphasizing Garrett Morris's extensive contributions to both film and television spanning several decades. Acknowledging his participation in iconic shows and films, including "Cooley High." Memorable Performance on "Martin": Discussing his standout role as Stan on the TV series "Martin," portraying a memorable character who left a lasting impression on audiences. Praising his talent, versatility, and comedic skills, both on and off the screen. Appreciating Garrett Morris: Expressing gratitude and appreciation for Garrett Morris's contributions to the world of entertainment. Recognizing his significance during Black History Month and vowing to spotlight more unsung heroes. Conclusion: A brief but heartfelt tribute to Garrett Morris for his remarkable career and influence in the entertainment industry. Teasing upcoming episodes and themes for Black History Month.

Happy Super Bowl Weekend Y'all! This week our #OTWEEKLYPLAYLIST has sounds from Ryan Leslie, Tia Corine, Alchemist & Hit-Boy, and SZA!!! During #MUSICNEWS we recap our favorite awards and performances from this years 66th Grammys! Also in #THEBLACKNESS, we give flowers to actor Garrett Morris for finally receiving his start on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and shine a 'Queen's Spotlight' on singer Tyla for making history to be the first one to win in her Grammy Category! Follow Us: All Links: https://linktr.ee/otwweekly Instagram/Twitter: @onthewayweekly FB: facebook.com/onthewaypod | Youtube: https://bit.ly/3CWxgPZ Website: instinctent.com/ontheway | www.mochapodcastsnetwork.com/ontheway Sylvee - @sylveejones Kahlil - @kahlilxdaniel | www.kahlildaniel.com | www.facebook.com/kxdmusic KD III Link: https://untd.io/r/ArppTRxf6UAR Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just Joe and Jacques as Biff has “tech issues” or … better things to do (and who would blame him…)   Chat the great guest we've had of late and some of the next few sideshows coming up.,.    Chat the passing of legendary Carl Weathers … Apollo Creed through 2023 season 3 of the Mandalorian.  Also, talk SNL original cast member - Garrett Morris getting his Star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame (and Jacques insist on again telling his story of having breakfast with Morris in 2007)   Jacques kid had his heart broken and learned a great lesson … being a sports fan SUCKS and never get your hopes up as they (like millions) were SCAMMED by the MLS and the football powers to be who promoted for 2 months the big Messi v. Ronaldo.  Jacques pulls him from school early, get his snacks ready … paid for the MLS season pass on Apple TV … only to see them both sitting this game out. BBBBOOOOOOO!!!!   But at least we all have Taylor Swift in the superbowl cause according to the right …it's all a biden/nfl plan to help Joe win by …you know … it's too stupid to even type … but we at CPP truly think Taylor is just a great person and we are delighted to see her success … and her boyfriend is also dreamy.   Ted the prequal to … Ted now streaming (which STARS Jacques pal, Scott Grimes as a 1993 typical … slightly racist … Boston Dad.)  It's fantastic.  Joe also insist all watch the Netflix doc, “We Are The World” about the recording of that song … We Are The World. CPP on IG: @CarnivalPersonnelPodcast and on Twitter: @Carnival Podcast                                                                                            Biff on Twitter is @BiffPlaysHockey Joe on Twitter is: @Optigrabber Jacques on Twitter is @CarnivalPodcast and FB @JacquesLambert   Opening: Twilight Zone Parody   Closing Song: Donut Song by Beyond Id (1991) … Rod Murphy wrote this one and for some reason … they let Jacques sing it.    

Happened In the 90's hosted by Steve and Matt picks a day, any day, and then goes back in time to that magical decade we all know and love the 90's, to revisit episodes of tv, movies that premiered, or cultural events that occurred on that day in the 90's. This week Steve and Matt debate the better 90s game console: Sega Genesis or Super Nintendo After that it's time to dare your friend to snort some pixi stick dust cause we're talking all things January 11th in the 90s. SEGMENT 1 Show: The Wayans Bros. Episode: Goop-Hair-It-Is (Season: 1 | Episode: 1) Premiere Date: 01/11/1995 Story: Marlon invents a really hot hair-care product; with Gary Coleman, Garrett Morris. SEGMENT 2 Show: Duckman: Private Dick/Family Man Episode: Coolio Runnings (Season: 4 | Episode: 2) Premiere Date: 01/11/1997 Story: When Duckman makes an expensive bet hinging on Ajax performing well during an athletic competition, he finds that he has no athletic skills, and ends up adopting a fellow student in better physical shape -- popular rapper Coolio. Thanks for listening! Watch all new episode every Thursday here on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk5uXQXE9WGIWcpSkNkXaOg Audio available on all major platforms. Email Us At: hitnineties@gmail.com Instagram: HappenedInThe90s Twitter: HIThe90s Facebook: @HappenedInThe90s Website: https://happenedinthe90s.com MERCH LINK: https://www.redbubble.com/people/HIT90s/shop?asc=u&ref=account-nav-dropdown

Merry Christmas, everybody! Mike and Jesse discuss the 1996 Christmas comedy Santa With Muscles. Blake Thorn is a millionaire who loses his memory and is conned into thinking he is Santa. Starring Hulk Hogan, Don Stark, Robin Curtis, Garrett Morris, Ed Begley, Jr. Leave us a message at https://speakpipe.com/cdfpod Get your CDF Pod merch at https://cdfpodmerch.com Our theme music was composed by CollinDomo AKA Chunky Krill. Find more of his work at soundcloud.com/chunky-krill Facebook: facebook.com/cdfpod Instagram: instagram.com/cdfpod/

Welcome to our podcast series from The Super Network and Pop4D called Tubi Tuesdays Podcast! This podcast series is focused on discovering and doing commentaries/watch a longs for films found on the free streaming service Tubi, at TubiTV Your hosts for Tubi Tuesdays are Super Marcey, ‘The Terrible Australian' Bede Jermyn, Prof. Batch (From Pop4D & Web Tales: A Spider-Man Podcast) and Kollin (From Trash Panda Podcast), will take turns each week picking a film to watch and most of them will be ones we haven't seen before.Movie Starts Playing At: 00:07:55Welcome back to The Tubi Tuesdays Podcast, this week Super Marcey, Bede Jermyn and Trash Panda Kollin are in the house to continue Christmas Month for the show. Unfortunately Prof. Batch was unable to make the show, Kraven is still partying because he got unbanned from the show and took Batch along for the ride. So what Christmas classic did Kollin pick for us to watch this week? Santa With Muscles (1996) because it's not Christmas time until Hulk Hogan thinks he's Santa brother!Santa With Muscles was directed by John Murlowski, it stars Hulk Hogan, Don Stark, Garrett Morris, Robin Curtis, Clint Howard, Ed Begley Jr., Aria Noelle Curzon, Adam Wylie and Mila Kunis.If you have never listened to a commentary before and want to watch the film along with the podcast, here is how it works. You simply need to grab a copy of the film or load it up on Tubi (you may need alcohol), and sync up the podcast audio with the film. We will tell you when to press and you follow along, it is that easy! Because we have watched the films on Tubi, it is a free service and there are ads, however we will give a warning when it comes up, so you can pause the film and provide time stamps to keep in sync.Highlights include:* Welcome back to Christmas month!* Hulk Hogan as Santa ... need we say more?* Why did Jordan Belfort produce a bunch of Hulk Hogan movies?* So many familiar faces agreed to be in this film ... but why?* Number 1 Sexy Auntie makes an appearance!* Why does this massive orphanage have like 3 kids?* Ooooo a plot twist!* What is going on?!* Plus much, much more!Check out The Super Network on Patreon to gain early access to The Tubi Tuesdays Podcast!DISCLAIMER: This audio commentary isn't meant to be taken seriously, it is just a humourous look at a film. It is for entertainment purposes, we do not wish to offend anyone who worked on and in the film, we have respect for you all.Please Visit Our Sponsors For This EpisodeGet 82% off + 2 months free at SurfShark VPN Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We don't visit season 28 of the show much, mostly for good reason, but this one has so much going on that we just had to do it. You've got Brittany arguably at the height of her popularity post-8 Mile, cameos from beloved alum like Adam Sandler and Garrett Morris (also, Rob Schneider shows up), and your usual smattering of SNL sketch offerings, mostly re-occuring. And along the way, Andy learns some things!

  Pod Stallions 113: Halloween TV Episodes Pod Stallions returns with an episode about all the times sitcoms got spooky, Mrs. Garrett vs Cannibals, Fonz fights a headless zombie, and Vincent Price is filling the Love Boat with blood! #podcast #podstallions DOWNLOAD THE SHOW HERE Topics Discussed: The Facts of Life, Ian Wolfe, Mr. Spock, The Love Boat, Aloaha Paradise, Debbie Reynolds, Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, Garfield, The Simpsons, Treehouse of Horror, Peter Hooten, Reb Brown, Garrett Morris, Fantasy Island, Vincent Price, Roseanne, Pod Stallions, Plaid Stallions,  Do you miss toy magazines?That's why we created Toy-Ventures magazine, an old-school print publication dedicated to vintage toys from the 1960s to the 1990s. Each issue is packed with never before seen images and information written by some of the top collectors. We've got six issues and climbing; please check our page here or visit our store.  Our newest book "Knock-Offs: Totally, Unauthorized Action Figures," is now available. It's 130 pages of bootleg goodness. You can get this new book via the PlaidStallions Shop , On Amazon (Affiliate Link) or on eBay (eBay Link)   Our book Rack Toys, Cheap, Crazed Playthings is now available again! Order through our Affiliate Link  Order Rack Toys 2.0 Here through our Affiliate Link►https://amzn.to/3Bkm9z1 FACEBOOK GROUPS FROM PLAIDSTALLIONS  Pod Stallions is based on our podcast and is one of the most fun groups on Facebook. Toys, Comics, Movies, TV, it's all up for grabs and remember, you keep the glass! If you like our show, then you have found your tribe.  Mego Knock Off Headquarters- The leading group discussing 70s Dime store knock-offs and bootleg action figures, we talk vintage toys and not others. We know the difference between Astro Apes and Action Apeman.  It's a fun group where we talk about Lincoln International, AHI, Tomland, Bogi, Demo Man, Mortoys, and other generic greats.

Co-hosts Movie Miss & Drive-in Dave wrap up their discussion of the "turkey" The Stuff (1985). Starring Michael Moriarty, Scott Bloom, Andrea Marcovicci & Garrett Morris. *SPOILERS DUH* At the time of this episode release you can WATCH THE STUFF HERE: free on Tubi, Pluto TV and pay streaming on Amazon Prime. Be part of our fun bad movie conversations (We Want To Interact With You & Hear Your Thoughts!) by following both our facebook discussion group & our official page Let's Talk Turkeys, on Instagram at letstalkturkeys (all one word), email us directly at letstalkturkeys@yahoo.com, we're on (X) Twitter @gobblepodcast & check us out on Wordpress at https://letstalkturkeys150469722.wordpress.com/ This episode is brought to you by The Universe Unhinged Podcast & Trulyyouniquejewelry.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lets-talk-turkeys/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lets-talk-turkeys/support

Co-hosts Movie Miss & Drive-in Dave begin their discussion of the "turkey" The Stuff (1985). Starring Michael Moriarty, Scott Bloom, Andrea Marcovicci & Garrett Morris. *SPOILERS DUH* At the time of this episode release you can WATCH THE STUFF HERE: free on Tubi, Pluto TV and pay streaming on Amazon Prime. Be part of our fun bad movie conversations (We Want To Interact With You & Hear Your Thoughts!) by following both our facebook discussion group & our official page Let's Talk Turkeys, on Instagram at letstalkturkeys (all one word), email us directly at letstalkturkeys@yahoo.com, we're on Twitter @gobblepodcast & check us out on Wordpress at https://letstalkturkeys150469722.wordpress.com/ This episode brought to you by The VHS Abyss Podcast & Trulyyouniquejewelry.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lets-talk-turkeys/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lets-talk-turkeys/support

Saturday Night is back!! Lily Tomlin returns as host to kick off the second season with James Taylor as the musical guest. The show comes out swinging with the classic Debate '76 sketch, an appearance by Emily Litella, and an amazing sketch featuring Lily & Garrett Morris you probably don't remember (which is a sin as it is one of the season's best). We also get one of the best episode endings of all time with Lily (and band, and the cast, and the studio audience) teaching us The Antler Dance. And, if all that wasn't enough....somehow The Muppets show up?!To do it all justice, Brad & Gary are joined by Dennis Perrin (author, "Mr. Mike: The Life and Work of Michael O'Donoghue") who recounts what it was like watching the show live back in '76 & shares stories of Michael O'Donoghue, Chevy Chase, and Taylor Mead (!!).Its a great way to kick off the new season!Subscribe today! And follow us on social media on X (Twitter), Instagram, and Facebook.

We are sitting down with Kendra, and she is doing his 104 SNL Characters tournament. Check out this episode for who she thinks is the best SNL Character. If you want to do your tournament, please contact us, and we will set it up. Sarah Silverman (1993-1994) Bobby Moynihan (2008-Now) George Coe (1975-1976) Gary Kroeger (1982-1985) Brian Doyle-Murray (1979-1982) John Belushi (1975-1979) Chris Kattan (1996-2003) Eddie Murphy (1980 -1984) Cheri Oteri (1995-2000) Tina Fey (2000-2006) Joan Cusack (1985-1986) Mike Myers (1989-1995) Melissa Villaseñor (2016-present) Dan Aykroyd (1975-1979) Alex Moffat (2016-present) Bill Murray (1977-1980) Mikey Day (2016-present) Phil Hartman (1986-1994) Jon Rudnitsky (2015-2016) Amy Poehler (2001 - 2008) Aidy Bryant (2012-present) Gilda Radner (1975 - 1980) Pete Davidson (2014-present) Chevy Chase (1975-1977) Sasheer Zamata (2014-present) Dana Carvey (1986-1993) John Milhiser (2013-2014) Will Ferrell (1995-2002) Colin Jost (2014-present) Bill Hader (2005-2013) Leslie Jones (2014-present) Kristen Wiig (2005-2012) Kyle Mooney (2013-present) Chris Farley (1990 - 1995) Mike O'Brien (2013-2014) Rachel Dratch (1999-2006) Michael Che (2014-present) Adam Sandler (1990-1995) Tim Robinson (2012-2013) Maya Rudolph (2000-2007) Beck Bennett (2013-present) Jon Lovitz (1985-1990) Noël Wells (2013-2014) Al Franken (1975-1995) Abby Elliott (2008-2012) Chris Rock (1990-1993) A. Whitney Brown (1986-1991) Andy Samberg (2005-2012) Harry Shearer (1979 - 1985) Fred Armisen (2002-2013) Michael McKean (1994-1995) Laraine Newman (1975-1980) Julia Sweeney (1990 - 1994 Jason Sudeikis (2005-2013) Jenny Slate (2009-2010) Jan Hooks (1986-1991) Gail Matthius (1980 - 1981) David Spade (1990-1996) Brooks Wheelan (2013-2014) Seth Meyers (2001-2014) Jim Belushi (1983-1985) Martin Short (1984-1985) Casey Wilson (2008-2009) Billy Crystal (1984-1985) Rich Hall (1984-1985) Christopher Guest (1984-1985) Ellen Cleghorne (1991-1995) Tim Kazurinsky (1981-1984) Michaela Watkins (2008-2009) Ana Gasteyer (1996-2002) Brad Hall (1982-1984) Dennis Miller ( 1985-1991) Joe Piscopo (1980-1984) Chris Parnell (1998-2006) Mary Gross (1981-1985) Jimmy Fallon (1998 - 2004) Terry Sweeney (1985-1986) Kate McKinnon (2012-2021) Tom Davis (1977-1980) Don Pardo (1975-2014) Beth Cahill (1991-1992) Cecily Strong (2012-2021) Garrett Morris (1975-1980) Molly Shannon (1995-2001) Nora Dunn (1985-1990) Taran Killam (2010-Now) Kevin Nealon (1986-1995) Don Novello (1978-1986) Horatio Sanz (1998-2006) Vanessa Bayer (2010 - Now) Denny Dillon (1980-1981) Rob Schneider ( 1990 - 1994) Paul Shaffer (1975-1980) Julia Louis-Dreyfus (1982 - 1985) Jay Pharoah (2010 - Now) Kenan Thompson (2003-now) Lorne Michaels (1975-now) Jane Curtin (1975-1980) Tracy Morgan (1996-2003) Tim Meadows (1991-2000) Will Forte (2002 - 2010) Darrell Hammond (1995-2009) Pamela Stephenson (1984-1985) Nasim Pedrad (2009-2014) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mass-debaters/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mass-debaters/support

Alien Invasion Summer continues and concludes with the notorious SNL flop Coneheads. Joining the guys is Galen Howard, who helps them break down an 86-minute movie that somehow just keeps repeating the same joke over and over again. They also talk about the all-star 90s comedian cast, Michael McKean as a Trump stand-in, using your parents' sex toys and much more. Next week: Brendan has a guest co-host for next week's film starring Ethan Hawke! What We've Been Watching: Lady Snowblood John Wick: Chapter 4 "Beef" Questions? Comments? Suggestions? You can always shoot us an e-mail at wwttpodcast@gmail.com  Japanese ending of Mac and Me: https://twitter.com/PeterKapow/status/1027019749480431619 Patreon: www.patreon.com/wwttpodcast Facebook: www.facebook.com/wwttpodcast Twitter: www.twitter.com/wwttpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/wwttpodcast Theme Song recorded by Taylor Sheasgreen: www.facebook.com/themotorleague Logo designed by Mariah Lirette: www.instagram.com/its.mariah.xo Montrose Monkington III: www.twitter.com/montrosethe3rd Coneheads stars Dan Aykroyd, Jane Curtin, Michelle Burke, Michael McKean, David Spade, Sinbad, Michael Richards, Eddie Griffin, Phil Hartman, Adam Sandler, Jason Alexander, Dave Thomas, Laraine Newman, Garrett Morris, Drew Carey, Kevin Nealon, Jan Hooks, Parker Posey, Joey Lauren Adams, Julia Sweeney, Ellen DeGeneres, Tim Meadows, Tom Davis, Peter Aykroyd, Jon Lovitz, Tom Arnold and Chris Farley; directed by Steve Barron. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Melanie and Ed love watching old movies and dishing on them. This week's movie: COOLEY HIGH (1973), starring Glynn Turman, Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs, and Garrett Morris. Mel and Ed make book recommendations with similar themes. Send podcast comments and suggestions to Melanded@whothehellarewe.com Don't forget to subscribe to the show!

Live from the Plastic Microphone Studios, it's whatever night (or day) you're listening to this episode. We're talking about Skits. Not Digital Shorts. Not Music Videos. Just skits. Over 45 years of 'em. And joining me in the Plastic Microphones Studios today, in which she legally owns 50% of due to Louisiana being a community property state, is my wife Tina. She's a long-time listener and a first-time guest. She's finally broken down, made a list, and checked it twice. And it's a doozie. Join us for laughs and memories of Saturday Night LIVE. Links on our Profile Page and at www.linktr.ee/hulkboy. Visit & interact on Instagram (www.instagram.com/favefivefromfans), Twitter (www.twitter.com/Fave5FromFans), Facebook (www.facebook.com/FaveFiveFromFans), & our website (www.FaveFiveFromFans.com). Also, check out www.twitter.com/@PMStudiosPod for more fun! @NetworkSIP #FaveFiveFromFans #FFFF #podcast #podcasts #podcasting #podcastlife #podcaster #podcasters #podcastshow #podcastersofinstagram #anchorfm #spotify #spotifypodcasts #itunes #applepodcasts #youtube #googlepodcasts #overcast #stitcher #stitcherpodcasts #castbox #castboxpodcasts #PodcastSuggestions #podcastinglife #podcastaddict #newpodcast #podcastlove #podcastmovement #podcasthost #podcastnetwork #podernfamily #bhfyp #Movie #Movies #Comedy #EveryoneIsFam #SIPNetwork  #PodernFamily #PodcastNation #PodcastNetwork #PodcastRecommendations #FollowBack #CrowdsourcedPodcastDatabase #PodTime #Fred Armisen, #Dan Aykroyd, #Jim Belushi, #John Belushi, #Jim Breuer, #A. Whitney Brown, #Dana Carvey, #Chevy Chase, #Michael Che, #Ellen Cleghorne, #Billy Crystal, #Jane Curtin, #Joan Cusack, #Pete Davidson, #Robert Downey Jr., #Brian Doyle-Murray, #Rachel Dratch, #Nora Dunn, #Chris Elliott, #Jimmy Fallon, #Chris Farley, #Will Ferrell, #Tina Fey, #Chloe Fineman, #Will Forte, #Al Franken, #Janeane Garofalo, #Ana Gasteyer, #Gilbert Gottfried, #Christopher Guest, #Bill Hader, #Anthony Michael Hall, #Darrell Hammond, #Phil Hartman, #Jan Hooks, #Leslie Jones, #Colin Jost, #Chris Kattan, #Julia Louis-Dreyfus, #Jon Lovitz, #Norm Macdonald, #Michael McKean, #Mark McKinney, #Kate McKinnon, #Tim Meadows, #Laurie Metcalf, #Seth Meyers, #Dennis Miller, #Finesse Mitchell, #Jay Mohr, #Tracy Morgan, #Garrett Morris, #Bobby Moynihan, #Eddie Murphy, #Bill Murray, #Mike Myers, #Kevin Nealon, #Laraine Newman, #Cheri Oteri, #Chris Parnell, #Nasim Pedrad, #Jay Pharoah, #Joe Piscopo, #Amy Poehler, #Randy Quaid, #Colin Quinn, #Gilda Radner, #Rob Riggle, #Chris Rock, #Maya Rudolph, #Andy Samberg, #Adam Sandler, #Horatio Sanz, #Rob Schneider, #Paul Shaffer, #Molly Shannon, #Harry Shearer, #Martin Short, #Sarah Silverman, #Robert Smigel, #David Spade, #Ben Stiller, #Cecily Strong, #Jason Sudeikis, #Julia Sweeney, #Kenan Thompson, #Damon Wayans, #Patrick Weathers, #Kristen Wiig --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fave-five-from-fans/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fave-five-from-fans/support

In this episode, which aired April 6, 1995, we dine at Detroits's very exclusive Marty Mar's Meatloaf and Waffles. The greatest trick this restaurant ever pulled was convincing the world it didn't exist…and like that, it's gone! This episode guest stars Garrett Morris, Dartanyan Edmonds, Stacii Jae Johnson, and MC Hammer --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/themartinshowpodcast/message

Problems with the law, Richard Pryor stories, and the original SNL days with Garrett Morris. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It Was a Thing on TV presents a pair of special semi wrestling related live watches that were recorded on Stream Lounge during the holiday season. First, Recently featured in the third season premiere of Young Rock on NBC, we look at the Cyndi Lauper music video from the 1985 classic "The Goonies". Can Cyndi save her family's gas station from the evil clutches of Roddy Piper, Iron Sheik and company while also trying to find pirate treasure? Just watch out for One Eyed Willie's booby traps. Links to follow along. "The Goonies 'R' Good Enough" Music Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhPujiA9BRY Taffy Butt (Bob's Burgers) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9hCvuxgyuE Then, Greg and Chico watch the 1996 movie "Santa With Muscles" where the Hulkster plays an insane health food pitchman who gets amensia and now thinks he's Santa Claus! The Hulkster then has to save an Orphanage from a germophobic Ed Begley Jr.! It's up to the Hulkster to save Garrett Morris, Robin Curtis and young Mila Kunis from the Zodiac killer brother! Check It Was a Thing on TV every Wednesday over at the PTBN POP Experience!

The team discusses movies you HAD to see in the theater. Did you like Friday 1 or 2 better? When Eddie Murphy took over for Garrett Morris at SNL