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Tonight, my special guest is author Ryan Walters who's here to discuss his book Apollo 1: The Tragedy That Put Us On The Moon.  On January 27, 1967, astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee climbed into a new spacecraft perched atop a large Saturn rocket at Kennedy Space Center in Florida for a routine dress rehearsal of their upcoming launch into orbit, then less than a month away. All three astronauts were experienced pilots and had dreams of one day walking on the moon. But little did they know, nor did anyone else, that once they entered the spacecraft that cold winter day they would never leave it alive. The Apollo program would be perilously close to failure before it ever got off the ground.   But rather than dooming the space program, this tragedy caused the spacecraft to be completely overhauled, creating a stellar flying machine to achieve the program’s primary goal: putting man on the moon.   Apollo 1 is a candid portrayal of the astronauts, the disaster that killed them, and its aftermath. In it, readers will learn:  How the Apollo 1 spacecraft was doomed from the start, with miles of uninsulated wiring and tons of flammable materials in a pure oxygen atmosphere, along with a hatch that wouldn’t open How, due to political pressure, the government contract to build the Apollo 1 craft went to a bidder with an inferior plan How public opinion polls were beginning to turn against the space program before the tragedy and got much worse after    Apollo 1 is about America fulfilling its destiny of man setting foot on the moon. It’s also about the three American heroes who lost their lives in the tragedy, but whose lives were not lost in vain.    Show Us Some Love! Copy and Paste our link in a text message to a friend or family member: https://www.mysteriousradio.com     Follow us on Instagram @mysteriousradio Follow us on TikTok mysteriousradioTikTok Follow us on Twitter @mysteriousradio Follow us on Pinterest pinterest.com/mysteriousradio Like us on Facebook Facebook.com/mysteriousradio   Want All Paranormal Episodes? Follow Our Podcast Paranormal Fears!  Follow Paranormal Fears on Apple Podcasts  Follow Paranormal Fears on Spotify  Follow Paranormal Fears on Google  Follow Paranormal Fears on Amazon Follow Paranormal Fears on Podcast Addict  Follow Paranormal Fears on TuneIn Radio or in your favorite podcast app!

Russell "Rusty" Schweikart grew up with a great interest in aviation and watching the planes fly around Lakehurst Naval Air Station in New Jersey. So it was no surprise when he joined the U.S. Air Force and was trained as a fighter pilot. He later joined the Massachusetts Air National Guard. But in 1963, he was selected as a NASA astronaut and was soon on track to be part of the Apollo program to fulfill President John F. Kennedy's vision of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.In this edition of "Veterans Chronicles, Capt. Schweikart takes us through his days in the Air Force and Air National Guard. He also details the moment in a cafeteria that he decided to pursue becoming an astronaut and the training he went through to prepare for space. Schweikart also walks us through the dark days following the deadly Apollo 1 fire that killed Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee in 1967 and the changes that were made as a result.Finally, Schweikart takes us step by step through his Apollo 9 mission, the testing of the lunar module and Apollo space suits, and the mesmerizing moments of looking back towards Earth during the first-ever Apollo spacewalk.

SKIP TO 00:29:31 TO GET TO THIS WEEK'S STORY Welcome to Episode 137 of Let's Get Haunted! On July 20, 1969, the United States Apollo 11 Mission made history when two of its astronauts - Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin - became the first humans to ever set foot on the moon. Though Apollo 11 is perhaps the most well-known of the Apollo Program's missions, it never would've been possible without its predecessors. Astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee were the three brave astronauts assigned to the first of these historic spaceflights: Apollo 1. A critical moment along the Space Race timeline, Apollo 1 represented the first phase of NASA's project to put men on the moon before the Soviets. When all 3 of these astronauts shockingly perished in a fire during a mock launch exercise, rumors and conspiracy theories began to swirl. Were their brutal deaths an accident? Or were Grissom, White, and Chaffee murdered? When a whistleblower mysteriously ended up dead after testifying in front of Congress, suspicions only deepened. Join us as we explore the winding unsolved mystery known as the Apollo 1 Conspiracy! TIME STAMPS 00:00:00 - INTRO/PERSONAL HAUNTINGS 00:21:04 - MANSCAPED AD 00:28:42 - DONOR SHOUTOUTS 00:29:31 - THE APOLLO 1 CONSPIRACY This episode is sponsored! Buy Manscaped products: https://www.manscaped.com & use code “LETSGETHAUNTED” for 20% off + free shipping. YouTube Videos Referenced during this episode: - Liberty Bell 7 splashdown & rescue footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zybhDAkAzls - Audio from the Apollo 1 pre-launch test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=274lQSbpkRg - CBS News Interviews with Apollo 1 astronauts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM4ufEeOkXY - Apollo 1 Crew Announcement - Complete, two camera edit - March 1966: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5WA-X4kunE - Apollo 1 Tragedy CBS News Coverage (1967): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSWUnWOMdTk - Liberty Bell 7 Recovery in 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD0M4Op5_Q8 - Apollo 11 footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZb2mqId0A — Other Important Stuff: Become a donor by subscribing to our BRAND NEW PATREON: http://patreon.com/letsgethaunted Buy Our Merch: https://www.letsgethaunted.com Check out the photo dump for this week's episode: https://www.instagram.com/letsgethaunted Send us fan mail: PO BOX 1658 Camarillo, CA 93011 Send us your listener stories: LetsGetHauntedPod@gmail.com — BACKGROUND MUSIC Song: Casa Bossa Nova by Kevin MacLeod https://incompetech.com/ Creative Commons — CC BY 3.0 I https://goo.gl/Yibru5 Song: Triumph (No Copyright Music) Music and Production by Pepe Pérez TRIUMPH. Music Orchestral Instrumental EPIC Motivational. No copyright LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsdHHYUmeg Song: Ambient Horror Sci-Fi MIX - Inside the Alien Hive // Royalty Free No Copyright Background Music Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F1XVbSlsaA Song: “Aftermath” by Kevin MacLeod found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJApqlWZTHo https://incompetech.com/ Creative Commons — CC BY 3.0 I https://goo.gl/Yibru5

It should come as no surprise that the Apollo 1 shook up how most everyone felt about the Apollo Program – the government, the media, and the general population – but the group that has the most to lose, NASA, and particularly its astronauts, never wavered in their desire to honor the memories of their fallen colleagues by continuing the mission and getting to the moon. Of course, that doesn't mean that in the months following the fire there wasn't a lot of frustration and concern on their part; but they worked to make sure the negligence shown during Apollo 1 wasn't repeated and that their colleagues were honored and would never be forgotten.The Space Race series introduction is Lift Off by kennysvoice.As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

On January 27, 1967, astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee die in a fire inside Spacecraft 012. Photos: https://www.spaceracehistorypodcast.com/post/episode-52-fire

This week we talk about Apollo 1, and how the the program planned to take astronauts to the moon, took three lives instead and  lead some to begin talking about the cancellation of manned spaceflight in the United States all together.The Space Race series introduction is Lift Off by kennysvoice.As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

January 27th, 1967 was one of the worst days in space history, when a fire started in the Apollo 1 spacecraft resulting in the deaths of Astronauts Gus Grisson, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee. Learn more in today's episode. Things to read about the Apollo 1 tragedy. Apollo 1 Official Report A Summary of Events Watch on Youtube

Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 310, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: Modern History 1: A 1978 secession from India's Congress Party formed the Congress (I), with the I standing for her. Indira Gandhi. 2: This ex-British PM announced in 1963 he wouldn't run again for Parliament, to which he was first elected in 1900. Winston Churchill. 3: In 1945 he declared Indonesia's independence and became its first president. Sukarno. 4: In 1967 a launch pad fire claimed the lives of Edward White, Roger Chaffee and this astronaut. Virgil "Gus" Grissom. 5: From 1931-33 excavations in this country uncovered the palaces of Kings Darius and Xerxes. Iran (Persia). Round 2. Category: Mr. Smith Goes To Washington 1: Fort Dix is in this state's 4th District, repped by Chris Smith, who was elected to Congress at age 27. New Jersey. 2: William French Smith, who held this post, 1981-1985, had a key role in putting the 1st woman on the Supreme Court. Attorney General. 3: In 1996 Gordon Smith lost to Ron Wyden to replace Bob Packwood as a Sen. from this state; now they serve together. Oregon. 4: Washington's 9th District is represented by this man, who has the same name as a certain economist. Adam Smith. 5: Parts of Comal, Hays and Travis Counties make up the 21st District of this state's Rep. Lamar Smith. Texas. Round 3. Category: Smack Dab In The Middle 1: In Park County, 30 miles northwest of Pike's Peak. Colorado. 2: In Kent County, 11 miles south of Dover. Delaware. 3: In Yavapai County, 55 miles east-southeast of Prescott. Arizona. 4: In Story County, 5 miles northeast of Ames. Iowa. 5: In Wexford County, 5 miles north-northwest of Cadillac. Michigan. Round 4. Category: Actor-Directors 1: This actor directed an animal onscreen and off in 1998's "The Horse Whisperer". Robert Redford. 2: Replacing Kubrick as the director of 1961's "One-Eyed Jacks" was an offer this actor could not refuse. Marlon Brando. 3: This daughter of director John made her own directing debut with the TV movie "Bastard Out of Carolina". Anjelica Huston. 4: "The Great Dictator" (1940). Charlie Chaplin. 5: "One-Eyed Jacks" (1961). Marlon Brando. Round 5. Category: "S.a."S 1: Geographically, it's made up of 12 nations and 2 dependencies. South America. 2: In 1891 a crab pot in San Francisco became this organization's first "kettle" for Christmas donations. Salvation Army. 3: A founding member of OPEC. Saudi Arabia. 4: It's not my fault, it's a 600-mile geologic fault zone stretching from southern to northern California. San Andreas Fault. 5: General Augusto Pinochet led a military coup that overthrew this president in 1973. Salvador Allende. Thanks for listening! Come back tomorrow for more exciting trivia!

Tonight, my special guest is author Ryan Walters who's here to discuss his book Apollo 1: The Tragedy That Put Us On The Moon. On January 27, 1967, astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee climbed into a new spacecraft perched atop a large Saturn rocket at Kennedy Space Center in Florida for a routine dress rehearsal of their upcoming launch into orbit, then less than a month away. All three astronauts were experienced pilots and had dreams of one day walking on the moon. But little did they know, nor did anyone else, that once they entered the spacecraft that cold winter day they would never leave it alive. The Apollo program would be perilously close to failure before it ever got off the ground. But rather than dooming the space program, this tragedy caused the spacecraft to be completely overhauled, creating a stellar flying machine to achieve the program's primary goal: putting man on the moon. Apollo 1 is a candid portrayal of the astronauts, the disaster that killed them, and its aftermath. In it, readers will learn: How the Apollo 1 spacecraft was doomed from the start, with miles of uninsulated wiring and tons of flammable materials in a pure oxygen atmosphere, along with a hatch that wouldn't open How, due to political pressure, the government contract to build the Apollo 1 craft went to a bidder with an inferior plan How public opinion polls were beginning to turn against the space program before the tragedy and got much worse after Apollo 1 is about America fulfilling its destiny of man setting foot on the moon. It's also about the three American heroes who lost their lives in the tragedy, but whose lives were not lost in vain. Wanna get creeped out? Follow our new podcast 'Paranormal Fears' on any podcast app or Apple Podcasts. Listen AD-FREE by subscribing to our channel on Apple Podcasts! On all other apps you can enjoy AD-FREE listening here https://mysteriousradio.supercast.com/ Share your thoughts and opinions! Join our new group chat on Telegram - https://t.me/mysteriousradio Visit our home on the web: https://www.mysteriousradio.com Follow us on Instagram @mysteriousradio Follow us on TikTok mysteriousradioTikTok Follow us on Twitter @mysteriousradio Follow us on Pinterest pinterest.com/mysteriousradio Like us on Facebook Facebook.com/mysteriousradio Check Out Mysterious Radio! (copy the link to share with your friends and family via text) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“ We've got a fire in the cockpit!” That was the cry heard over the radio on January 27, 1967, after astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee climbed into a new spacecraft perched atop a large Saturn rocket at Kennedy Space Center in Florida for a routine dress rehearsal of their upcoming launch into orbit, then less than a month away. All three astronauts were experienced pilots and had dreams of walking on the moon one day. Little did they or anyone else know, once they entered the spacecraft that cold winter day, they would never leave it alive. The Apollo program would come perilously close to failure before it ever got off the ground. But rather than dooming the space program, this tragedy led to the complete overhaul of the spacecraft, creating a stellar flying machine capable of achieving the program's primary goal: putting a man on the moon. Today's guest is Ryan Walters, author of “Apollo 1: The Tragedy That Put Us on the Moon. We discuss: •How the flawed design of the Apollo 1 spacecraft—miles of uninsulated wiring, an excess of flammable material in a pure oxygen atmosphere, and an unwieldy, three-piece hatch—doomed it from the start •• How NASA awarded the multi-billion-dollar contract to build the Apollo 1 craft to a bidder with an inferior plan and management due to political pressure •• How NASA's damaged reputation and growing opposition to spending on space exploration almost led Congress to shut down the space program after the Apollo 1 fire

Originally from Ellisville, Mississippi, the famous “Free State of Jones,” Ryan S. Walters is an independent historian who currently teaches American history at Collin College in North Texas. Walters did extensive research on Apollo 1 and obtained details as to what happened on that fateful day when Astronauts, Virgil Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee climbed into the capsule, located atop a Saturn 1b rocket for a flight rehearsal. A fire broke out in the capsule killing all three astronauts. Walters and Host Charlotte Kosa will discuss the tragedy and the NASA investigation that followed. He has appeared on Breitbart Radio, the Chris Stigall Show, the Mark Davis Show, the Bill Bunkley Show, the Michael Berry Show, and the History Unplugged Podcast. He has written for Townhall.com and has spoken at a number of venues, including the Abbeville Institute and the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Website https://ryanswalters.net/ Books The Last Jeffersonian: Grover Cleveland and the Path to Restoring the Republic Apollo 1: The Tragedy That Put Us On the Moon Remember Mississippi: How Chris McDaniel Exposed the GOP Establishment and Started a Revolution, Grover Cleveland: The Last Jeffersonian President The Jazz Age President: Defending Warren G. Harding

Come gather around the campfire and let me tell you about the Perilous Fate of the American Space Pioneers. Last episode covered the accidents and tragedies of the early Soviet space program, our rivals in the space race and partners in space exploration today. This episode is going to cover the disasters of the American Space program. What would have happened if Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin got stuck on the moon?  How did the Apollo 1 fire start? Who was the first American casualty of the space race?  Did NASA know Challenger was going to explode? Who was Christa McAuliffe? Could the Columbia disaster have been avoided? Let's talk about it. **This episode includes sensitive content including real audio and graphic descriptions of deadly accidents. Listener discretion is advised.**Make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Check out our links here to support the show, follow our social media, and see photos from the case: https://linktr.ee/CampfireStoriesPodcastYou can contact me at campfirestoriesbusiness@gmail.com. Also check out our YouTube channel Campfire Stories: Astonishing History. Sources for every episode are available in the episode transcript on Buzzsprout.Music by: Zoliborz Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CampfireStories)

Mientras el módulo Eagle se dispone a alunizar en el Mar de la Tranquilidad, las imágenes en directo están siendo seguidas en televisión por 600 millones de personas. La cuarta misión de la serie de vuelos tripulados Apolo inicia la exploración humana de la Luna. Los astronautas Neil Armstrong y Edwin F. Aldrin recorren el terreno durante más de dos horas recogiendo 22 kilogramos de muestras de suelo y rocas lunares e instalando un reflector láser e instrumental científico para detección de seismos y partículas solares. Cuenta la leyenda que Buzz Aldrin era presbiteriano y pidió permiso a su iglesia para poder administrarse a sí mismo la comunión al alunizar. Aldrin llevaría un pequeño kit religioso compuesto por una hostia y un poco de vino para comulgar con ellos poco después de alunizar. La base lunar, denominada Tranquillitatis Statio, consistente en el LEM y su tripulación, se hallaba a unos noventa kilómetros al este de dos cráteres casi gemelos denominados Ritter y Sabine, al sur del Mare Tranquilitatis. Seis horas y media después del alunizaje, los astronautas estaban preparados para salir del LEM. Realizadas las comprobaciones pertinentes, Armstrong solicitó permiso para efectuar los preparativos de la primera actividad extravehicular. Houston lo autorizó. El primero en salir es Armstrong. Mientras desciende por las escaleras activa la cámara de televisión que retransmitirá imágenes a todo el mundo. Entonces describe a Houston lo que ve a su alrededor y, al pisar el suelo a las 2:56 del 21 de julio de 1969 (hora internacional UTC), pronuncia la famosa frase: 'Este es un pequeño paso para un hombre, pero un gran salto para la Humanidad'. En Houston el reloj marcaba las 22:56 h. En un primer momento, por seguridad, los astronautas iban unidos al LEM mediante un cordón. Al ver que el paseo lunar parecía seguro, se deshicieron de él. Armstrong y Aldrin tenían expresas instrucciones de no cerrar la escotilla del Apolo 11, ya que no contaba con una manija en su parte exterior. Armstrong tomó fotografías del paisaje aledaño y más tarde muestras del suelo lunar. Entretanto Buzz Aldrin se preparó para salir del LEM de la misma manera que su comandante. El segundo de a bordo bajó por la escala y contempló su alrededor.   Armstrong: —Una vista magnífica ahí fuera.   Aldrin: —Magnífica desolación. Los astronautas comenzaron a realizar las tareas que les habían encomendado: instalar los aparatos del ALSEP, descubrir una placa con una inscripción que conmemora la efeméride, instalar una cámara de televisión sobre un trípode a veinte metros del LEM. Mientras tanto Aldrin instaló un detector de partículas nucleares emitidas por el Sol: una cinta metalizada sobre la que incide el viento solar que posteriormente deberían trasladar al LEM para poder analizarla en la Tierra al término de la misión. Más tarde ambos desplegaron una bandera estadounidense e iniciaron una conversación telefónica con el presidente de los Estados Unidos Richard Nixon:   Nixon: —Hola, Neil y Buzz. Les estoy hablando por teléfono desde el Despacho Oval de la Casa Blanca y seguramente ésta sea la llamada telefónica más importante jamás hecha, porque gracias a lo que han conseguido, desde ahora el cielo forma parte del mundo de los hombres y como nos hablan desde el Mar de la Tranquilidad, eso nos recuerda que tenemos que duplicar los esfuerzos para traer la paz y la tranquilidad a la Tierra. En este momento único en la Historia del mundo, todos los pueblos de la Tierra forman uno solo. Lo que han hecho les enorgullece y rezamos para que vuelvan sanos y salvos a la Tierra.   Armstrong: —Gracias, señor presidente. Para nosotros es un honor y un privilegio estar aquí. Representamos no sólo a los Estados Unidos, sino también a los hombres de paz de todos los países. Es una visión de futuro. Es un honor para nosotros participar en esta misión hoy. Por último instalan un sismómetro a pocos metros del LEM para conocer la actividad sísmica de la Luna y un retrorreflector de rayos láser para medir con precisión la distancia que hay hasta nuestro satélite. Mientras esto sucede, Michael Collins seguía en órbita en el módulo de mando con un ángulo muy rasante. Cada paso en órbita, de un horizonte a otro, duraba tan sólo seis minutos y medio, pero desde semejante altura no era capaz de ver a sus compañeros. La actividad extravehicular duró más de 2 horas. Los astronautas instalaron un ALSEP con varios experimentos, colocaron un disco con mensajes y saludos de varias naciones del mundo, las medallas recibidas de las familias de Yuri Gagarin y Vladímir Komarov, las insignias del Apolo en recuerdo de Virgil Grissom, Edward White y Roger Chaffee, fallecidos en el incendio de la nave Apolo 1, sellaron con un tampón el primer ejemplar del nuevo sello de correos de 10 centavos y recogieron 22 kg de rocas lunares. El primero en regresar al módulo lunar es Aldrin, seguido inmediatamente por Armstrong. Mientras llevaron puesto el traje no lo notaron, pero al quitarse el casco dentro del módulo lunar, los astronautas del Apolo 11 sintieron algo inesperado: el polvo lunar que había en sus botas y trajes desprendía un olor intenso y muy desagradable que les recordaba a la pólvora. La composición química del polvo lunar es muy distinta de la de la pólvora, así que el origen de ese olor sigue siendo un misterio. Se cree que fue algún tipo de reacción que se activó al entrar en contacto con el aire húmedo de la cápsula y después se disipó.​ Después los dos astronautas durmieron durante casi 4 horas y media. Evenfall, Max Corbacho, Robert Scott Thompson, Paul Kwitek, Endless Melancholy, David Helpling, Lokijar, Craig Padilla & Marvin Allen, Richard P John, O Yuki Conjugate, Marcus Denight, S1gns of L1fe.

Dr. Roger Chaffee, Summa Health Cardiologist, discusses the potential long and short effects of COVID 19 on the health of your heart.

The proper names of most stars date back hundreds or even thousands of years. They were bestowed by the skywatchers of the ancient Mediterranean. But the brightest star of one prominent star picture was bestowed only about half a century ago. Navi is the middle star in the letter M or W that marks Cassiopeia the queen. It’s the brightest of the letter’s five stars. Until the late 1960s, though, it was known only by catalog or scientific names — mainly Gamma Cassiopeia. The star is 550 light-years away. And it’s a stunner: 17 times the mass of the Sun, and about 35 thousand times the Sun’s brightness. It’s only about eight million years old, but it’s already nearing the end of its life — an explosion that will blast the star to bits. Astronaut Gus Grissom noticed the star’s lack of a proper name, so he gave it one. Grissom and crewmates Ed White and Roger Chaffee were training for Apollo 1, the first flight of the new moonship. As part of the training, they were learning to navigate by the stars. As a joke, they gave new names to three stars. All three names were parts of the astronauts' names spelled backwards. Grissom’s middle name was Ivan, so his star became Navi. The names probably would have faded away. But the three astronauts died when a fire broke out aboard their spacecraft during a test on the launch pad. So the names stuck — names with their own stories. Script by Damond Benningfield Support McDonald Observatory

The proper names of most stars date back hundreds or even thousands of years. They were bestowed by the skywatchers of the ancient Mediterranean. But the brightest star of one prominent star picture was bestowed only about half a century ago. Navi is the middle star in the letter M or W that marks Cassiopeia the queen. It’s the brightest of the letter’s five stars. Until the late 1960s, though, it was known only by catalog or scientific names — mainly Gamma Cassiopeia. The star is 550 light-years away. And it’s a stunner: 17 times the mass of the Sun, and about 35 thousand times the Sun’s brightness. It’s only about eight million years old, but it’s already nearing the end of its life — an explosion that will blast the star to bits. Astronaut Gus Grissom noticed the star’s lack of a proper name, so he gave it one. Grissom and crewmates Ed White and Roger Chaffee were training for Apollo 1, the first flight of the new moonship. As part of the training, they were learning to navigate by the stars. As a joke, they gave new names to three stars. All three names were parts of the astronauts' names spelled backwards. Grissom’s middle name was Ivan, so his star became Navi. The names probably would have faded away. But the three astronauts died when a fire broke out aboard their spacecraft during a test on the launch pad. So the names stuck — names with their own stories. Script by Damond Benningfield Support McDonald Observatory

Nesse episódio vou contar para vocês, a trágica e triste história do acidente com a Apollo 1 que matou 3 astronautas, Virgil Gus Grissom, Ed White e Roger Chaffee, um dos mais trágicos acidentes da história da exploração espacial. Coloquei áudios originais ao longo do episódio e é bem pesado em determinados pontos, então, caso você tenha problemas com isso, aconselho a não ouvir o episódio.

Nesse episódio vou contar para vocês, a trágica e triste história do acidente com a Apollo 1 que matou 3 astronautas, Virgil Gus Grissom, Ed White e Roger Chaffee, um dos mais trágicos acidentes da história da exploração espacial. Coloquei áudios originais ao longo do episódio e é bem pesado em determinados pontos, então, caso […]

Here is the latest from The Year Was, which is that thing I do every week. We are up to episode 101. This time we examine the year 1967 as astronauts Virgil “Gus” Grissom, Roger Chaffee, and Edward White lose their lives in the Apollo 1 fire.   Theme music by The Tim Kreitz Band    iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-year-was/id1458174084  Google Play: https://play.google.com/music/m/I3itppkgflgewupxhllk632qfpm?t=The_Year_Was Podbean: https://theyearwas.podbean.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0Qdd00m2NWvrViVIfAh6kA YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCzWavt8mqXHsC_uRNpU3lQ   Sources: https://earthhow.com/earth-atmosphere-composition/ https://www.aip.org/news/2019/trial-fire-legacy-apollo-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1 https://www.space.com/14379-apollo1-fire-space-capsule-safety-improvements.html https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2692032/apollo-1-crews-last-moments-revealed-by-nasa-flight-director-kris-kraft-who-listened-in-from-mission-control/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/the-hell-of-apollo-1-pure-oxygen-a-single-spark-and-death-in-17-seconds/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/01/26/50-years-ago-three-astronauts-died-in-the-apollo-1-fire/ https://www.space.com/14367-obama-nasa-remembrance-day-space-tragedies.html https://www.space.com/35477-apollo1-new-nasa-hatches-exhibit.html https://www.vice.com/en/article/9adbba/apollo-fire-feature https://spacepolicyonline.com/events/nasa-day-of-remembrance-2021-jan-28-2021-1100-am-et/   Photo:  https://www.space.com/17338-apollo-1.html

DÜNYA TARİHİNDE BUGÜN YAŞANANLAR1880 - Thomas Edison, elektrik ampulünün patentini aldı.1983 - Dünyanın en uzun (53,9 km) denizaltı tüneli olan Seikan Tüneli açıldı. Tünel Japonya'nın Honshu ve Hokkaido adalarını birbirine bağlıyor.2010 - Apple'ın patronu Steve Jobs, aylardır beklenen taşınabilir bilgisayar ve akıllı telefon arası çok fonksiyonlu tablet bilgisayarı iPad'i tanıttı.TÜRKİYE TARİHİNDE BUGÜN YAŞANANLAR1947 - Öğretim kurumları dışında din eğitimine izin verildi.1954 - Köy Enstitüleri ile İlk Öğretmen Okullarını, "İlk Öğretmen Okulları" adı altında birleştiren yasa Meclis'te kabul edildi. Böylece Köy Enstitüleri kapatıldı.1965 - Ord. Prof. Ali Fuat Başgil'in 5 yıl hapsi istendi. Ali Fuat Başgil İsviçre'de Fransızca olarak 27 Mayıs Askeri İhtilali adlı bir kitap yayınlamıştı.1971 - Türkiye İşçi Partisi Amasya İl Başkanı Şerafettin Atalay öldürüldü.1973 - Türkiye'nin Los Angeles Başkonsolosu Mehmet Baydar ve Konsolos Bahadır Demir, Ermeni terör örgütü ASALA tarafından öldürüldü.SANATTA BUGÜN1918 - Amerikalı romancı Edgar Rice Burroughs'un yarattığı "Tarzan"ı konu alan ilk film, Gorillerin Tarzanı (Tarzan of the Apes) adıyla ABD'de gösterime girdi. Oyuncu Elmo Lincoln, beyazperdenin ilk Tarzan'ı oldu.BİLİMDE BUGÜN1967 - Apollo-1 uzay aracı, Kennedy Uzay Merkezi'nde test edildiği sırada yandı: Astronotlar Gus Grissom, Edward Higgins White ve Roger Chaffee hayatlarını kaybetti.BUGÜN DOĞANLAR1832 İngiliz yazar, matematikçi ve mantıkçı - Lewis Carroll dünyaya geldi.1924 - Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti'nin kurucusu ve siyasetçi Rauf Denktaş doğdu.1931 Türk tiyatro ve sinema sanatçısı Gazanfer Özcan doğdu.BUGÜN ÖLENLER1635 Türk şair Nef'i, hayatını kaybetti.1913 Türk gazeteci, yazar, yayıncı ve hattat Ebüzziya Tevfik Bey hayata veda etti.

We will hear from Lt Col Charles Doty and how he was involved in the NASA program, Gemini and Apollo spacecraft, and How Lt Col Doty was involved with Astronauts Ed White, Neil Armstrong, and Scott Carpenter. Many remember Astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee, who tragically died in the fire onboard of Apollo 1. You'll hear how NASA used Lt. Col Charles Doty to train Astronauts to put a man on the moon. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eightballcornerpocket/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eightballcornerpocket/support

Join us in this next episode as we discover the role of backbenchers, the history of Wimbledon, learn the amazing accomplishments of NASA astronaut Roger Chaffee, understand the science of shield volcanoes, and finish the episode learning about bridge in New Zealand!

Space travel... yup.. that is what we are talking about in this episode! Feel free to ping us on social media with your thoughts on this episode or any of our others - Follow us on twitter at https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow.  Bob 0:00 You think I'd get this right eventually? Yeah, Kevin 0:03 well, yeah. So, yeah. So what he's talking about is we try to sync up our audio because we're still about 1050 miles apart. So we do this, like seance and ritual. And we hit the button at the same time. Bob 0:13 And you know what? Bear in mind, this is Episode 64. So we've been doing this for a pretty long time. Yeah, I can never remember it. It's like, what's that movie with? Two buddy flick? where it's like, are we going on three? Or is it three go? Right? It's a cop show. cop movie. Kevin 0:41 Of course. Okay. So Bob, approximately approximately 40 years ago. Bob You were born. Kevin Hmm, yeah, a little more than that. But approximately 40 years ago, we sent out a few probes. They were named Voyager one. Voyager to you want to guess how far away from Earth they are right now? Bob 1:08 40 years - they've made it past Saturn. Kevin 1:15 Oh no, they've left the solar system. Bob 1:17 Oh, well then I'm correct. Kevin 1:23 Answer Jeopardy what or who is somebody that's never been in my kitchen? Well, yes. I don't know. Ah, anyway, they're they're far, far away. throw me off. So today I would like to talk a little bit about about travel. Oh, no, we're not going alien ADAL space probes from South Park. We're just going space for weeks. Bob 1:51 But we did mention aliens, so maybe we'll get some less. Kevin 1:54 Yes, yes, absolutely. Unknown Speaker 1:57 You are listening to the Bob and Kevin show. We're Bob Baty Barr and Kevin miszewski. Each week we cover relevant tech and social issues related to technology. Our website is Bob and Kevin dot show. And our episodes can be found virtually on any Podcast Network. Be sure to follow us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Just search for Bob and Kevin show. Kevin 2:27 So, what I want to focus on isn't Star Trek type stuff where it's like want to be fantastical if we could sail the space and stars and visit all these m class planets and have sex with green aliens. Allah Captain Kirk Bob 2:44 right when we talk about the lesser known Starfleet vessels Kevin 2:53 supplemental Okay, so, I had a fan on here just turn it off. Hopefully they come through the audio but too late. Now Bob 3:00 Anyway, I'm surrounded by fans. Just kidding. Kevin 3:07 So I want to stay away from the fantastical side of space travel because we have Netflix CBS all access the new Picard series for Star Trek is streaming live now etc. So I don't really want to go that route. What I want to try to focus on Unknown Speaker 3:22 is this is the most fantastical time for space travel in the history of man. Kevin 3:28 In what way Bob 3:30 we have individual companies, not just governments in the space Unknown Speaker 3:34 travel game, that's so rather than fantastic. Kevin 3:38 Rather than apply the hashtag of fantastical to SpaceX, I will apply the hashtag of practical and that's actually what I want to talk about the practicality what is realistic, I think in terms of space travel in the year 2020. And looking ahead, because why my 11 year old son says Dad, why haven't we been to Mars yet? And I said, well, because it's really far away. It's hard, right? It's It's not easy. So why is it hard? Well, guess what? I've made a bunch of show notes here and outline, if you will, that I would like to share with you, Bob. How does that sound? Bob 4:14 It sounds great. But I already have a question. Yes. So we mentioned those probes that have been jettison away from Earth for 40 years, and they are past Saturn, in fact, well outside our solar system, and they've never Kevin 4:27 been in my kitchen. Bob 4:29 Okay, never even in my kitchen. Yes. They got there over the course of 40 years. However, there's no way that a person could go at the speed that those vehicles are traveling correct. Kevin 4:43 They can because humans just need to survive the G force. And g force only exists if there's acceleration. So let's say you're going 17,000 miles an hour, all you're actually doing is just orbiting Earth but you don't don't feel any g force because You're not accelerating, you're at a constant speed. Is that the speed of an orbiting vessel? Yeah, if you want to orbit around Earth, you have to go around 17,000 miles an hour. And actually, my son Jackson asked me, Why is that dad? And I tried to explain to him if he took a heavy object like a bolt or nut and tied it to a string, you spun it around. That bolt, actually is a pretty good model for this because that bolt wants to fly away from the center. However, it cannot fly fully away because of the string. Well, if we look at that, in terms of an earth model, the string is gravity and the speed that keeps that string tight, it happens to be 17,000 miles an hour. If you go faster than 17,000 miles an hour. What would happen Bob? The string still won't break. The string won't break, but Well, technically, yes, it does because you leave Earth's orbit grass Nobody can no longer contain you. Bob 6:02 And so you're going around this circle at 17,000. Well, actually, the theory is, is those crafts aren't really going around the circle, the gravity is what keeps them in the circle, right? Kevin 6:11 Well, you're anything orbiting Earth is constantly falling back to Earth. with gravity. However, it's the balance between centrifugal force trying to push you away from Earth because you're spinning around it so fast and gravity holding you on. So it's a delicate balance. If you don't go at least 17,000 miles an hour you d orbit and you come back to Earth. That's why you have to go from 17,000 miles an hour to something more agreeable on Earth, because that's not good to hit the ground at 17,000 miles an hour, you need to slow down and, and the air itself heats up. That's why you have the like the space shuttle shuttle and the Apollo capsules and all that have those heat shields because you need to decelerate essentially. And if you go faster than 17,000 miles an hour you just leave Earth orbit and go somewhere else. Bob 6:59 So the other day De the Dragon capsule, right? Is that what they back out up to Mach two? Kevin 7:08 Well, they if you're talking about they did a emergency abort test, right? Yes. And I don't know if it left, it didn't leave the atmosphere. Because the idea there was, hey, if we have to hit the ohshit button or some automatic system hits the ohshit button, can these dude survive the G forces? And can they get away from the rocket and it was a successful test? Bob 7:32 Right, but I saw a stat that it said that the capsule got up to so they had mentioned live that it got past Mach one. I think Ilan came out as part of the post analysis and said it got up to mock to do people good at Mach two. I believe two times the speed of sound, right. Right. Kevin 7:54 But again, it all depends on acceleration. You right now you're going I don't know 1000 miles an hour just spinning around Earth, but because you're not accelerating, it's a constant speed, no big deal. So going Mach two is not a big deal. The problem or the difference here is when you're on a rocket, you're not at a constant speed, you're going from zero to Mach two. So there's a constant acceleration so a g force being imparted on you. And when that rocket fires on the top of that to to tear off the the people to take them to safety, there's even more g forces because there's an acceleration that happens. And then being a paratrooper I'm very familiar with the deceleration g force when your parachute opens. Holy shit. Ah, you know, it's like, but it's the best feeling in the world because you know, your parachute opens because Bob 8:41 you know, you're not gonna bounce. Kevin 8:42 Yeah, at least not yet. Exactly. It's it's not the fear of heights that will ever kill you. It's a sudden stop at the bottom. That's the one you need to look out for. Bob 8:51 I don't know speaking for someone who's afraid of heights that could possibly get me Kevin 8:57 so let me ask you a Question about space? Like, why? Why do humans want to go to space? So I wrote down two possibilities. Actually, let's, let's call it three, just the technology like satellites. Okay, space, we know there's a use case their space tours. So you got like Virgin Galactic selling tickets, basically to go up to low Earth orbit, and then come back, and then colonization. So those are the three things I can think of. Is there anything outside of the way three? Bob 9:28 I think exploration is probably the top of the heap. Right? Okay. Kevin 9:33 Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't really, I mean, I guess I conflated colonization with exploration. So you could take a lap around the moon and come back home and exploring the surface of the moon. Bob 9:45 Right. Right. But we have those unmanned probes we started the show out with that are really just on a mission of pure exploration. True. Kevin 9:54 They're not as necessary. Go ahead. Bob 9:56 Well, Virgin Galactic is not actually doing trips, though. Yet, right, but they're selling tickets. Kevin 10:02 They have things that can go up to the edge of space and back and they are selling tickets. But I honestly it's priced out of my budget, so I haven't kept up on it. Bob 10:14 Hmm, yeah, I felt like that was still vaporware, that they're not really actually doing that. Kevin 10:20 I would agree. I would tend to agree with so we kind of have those four sorts of things, space tours, colonization, exploration, and just you know, app applying communication tech or telescopes and shit like that, right? Bob 10:37 Yeah, sorry, hang on. I'm looking at this Virgin Galactic bullshit. Actually, they actually have been into space But have they been into space with paying customers? Well, I thought Kevin 10:48 I saw recently where they can touch the edge of space. So it also comes down to the legal What does going to space air quotes me Bob 10:56 right? It's a quarter million dollars for 90 minute flight. they've received about $80 million in deposits from future astronauts. Unknown Speaker 11:03 What the Bob 11:05 frick? That was December of 2018. Kevin 11:09 Hey, man, we need a tax write off its tax season. By the way, we need a tax write off, Hey, I know want to buy a ticket. You can hide some of that money in a space tour. ism. Right? Bob 11:21 Yeah. All right, I'll stop looking at that crap. So you asked me a question about telescopes and whatnot. What did you say? Well, Kevin 11:26 well, basically, I think we boil it down to why the frick should we even go to space? And I think we have four kind of reasons, right? Why do we give a fuck? Right? We have exploration, space tourism, colonization, and then applying technology like satellites and stuff like that. Bob 11:45 Right during that also just what people do, like people are starved to learn about things they don't know about. Kevin 11:52 True. I mean, you hear stuff all the time. We know more about outer space than we know about our own oceans like we just kind of Right. Yeah, we I mean, we lost the whole airplane and H 370. Somewhere in earth in an ocean somewhere. Nobody can find it. That's weird. Yeah, that's strange. Okay, so, space. It's not easy, right? So to come back to my son's thought, hey, why am I getting the Mars yet? Well, I mean, think about the moon. That was 50 years ago, Neil Armstrong's dead Bob 12:24 in theory, in theory, it was just oh, Kevin 12:30 you know, one of those people are, you know, I was you know, almost had me there. Okay. So it's it's been 50 years and then we did the whole space shuttle thing and we're like, hey, reusable spaceships and shit. And that kind of like turned into Well, they can do low Earth orbit. They're basically fancy satellites with with a crew cab, and then that comes back down. Yeah, that's cool. It's an advancement, but then they killed him off. They killed off the space shuttle. That is event Then enter Space X and there's some other ones. But of course, they're not as ubiquitous, I guess a Space X. What's this one called? Like deep blue or something like that? Bad? I don't know. Why am I not surprised Jeff Bezos is shoveling money into a space program? Is it like a billionaire thing to be like? Well, let's see, we need our own spaceship company. Bob 13:22 Well, no. And that was actually one of the cruxes of the article that I sent you earlier today is that, you know, one of the things that happens in any industry like this, especially when it's early, you know, like early adopter early get into that there's a consolidation. And, you know, one company will acquire the other and, and make itself bigger gain technology, but they don't feel like the three billionaires that are doing it. So you got Branson, Bezos, and musk. And they don't see any of the three of those actually working together or like, you know, combining. Kevin 13:55 Gotcha. Bob 13:55 So it's totally a billionaire. It's a billionaire thing, like what are you doing? I got Well, I better get to. Kevin 14:03 That's fair. So it takes a long time to get anywhere in traffic here on Earth takes even longer to get somewhere by airplane. But you know, we can still get around this earth. You know, like the longest flight, you know, just happened recently. You can go from like London to Sydney, and a ridiculous amount of times like 14 hour flight or something ridiculous. I don't know, pick a number. So you get to outer space. Hey, now we're using spaceships. We'll get there faster. Right? Well, I have a list here, Bob. And I'm going to go through all eight planets, and even give you a bonus one called Pluto. Bob 14:40 And back in or is out again. No, Kevin 14:42 it's still out. We're still still blaming people like Neil deGrasse Tyson. Bob 14:46 I thought it was not eggs. I thought it you know, it's good. It's bad. It's in the towel. Kevin 14:50 I think it's still out. So we're going to start from the end and go out. How long do you think it would take us to get the mercury let's say you had a reason to go to New York mercury. What you don't Bob 15:00 we'd never make it because we'd burn up. Um, there's bad to get to mercury right now. Kevin 15:09 Yeah. How long would it take on a current technology? Bob 15:13 year and a half? Kevin 15:15 Hundred and 47 days is what it would take Unknown Speaker 15:17 half a year. Sorry. Well, that Well, Kevin 15:19 hold on. There's an asterisk here. Hundred 47 days is what it took the mercury probe in 1970. And so in the 1970s to go past there, however, to slow down enough to actually land can actually take six and a half years. Oh, that is it because Sydney has to match the orbital velocity and slowing down is hard. Because we always think about space travel and getting up to speed and getting there quick. Well, what they don't show you in Star Trek is much is the brakes right? How do you slow down and not splat right into the planet or just totally miss it Bob 15:57 without a for some really bad TV. If there are We've got to spend a half an episode slowing down. Kevin 16:05 I'm doing the best I can but the brakes this quickie, so Yeah, exactly. All right. Bob 16:13 Who is that? okati Kevin 16:18 that's my best Scotty. All right, Venus. How long do you think it would take to get to Venus? Bob 16:26 With the slowing down. Kevin 16:29 I don't know if this one's qualified with this line that just pick a number. How long would take the flyby get there touch it. About 15 months apparently Oh, apparently the the program mercker is called messenger and we sent Magellan to Venus and it took 15 months. Now. As we get through this, you might start thinking Wait a second. I've seen the solar system model Earth can be on the left hand side and the planet we're going to Bob 16:58 be calculating this based on Well, path I'm sure, Kevin 17:03 right. So NASA does their thing and says, Well, we've decided our our window to get there is here and it took 15 months. And then do you remember how many days of course, do you remember? Hey, Bob, remember that time you watch Apollo 11? land? No, you were sorry. I didn't mean to imply. Well, Bob, you went to venture gas on how long it took Apollo 11 to get to the moon. Bob 17:29 I feel like that wasn't very long. Like it was less than a day, right? Fuck this Kevin 17:36 Mars the opportunity lander, believe it or probe? Whatever opportunity was. How long do you think it took to get to Mars? Bob 17:46 Well, I feel like I've heard that that is an 18 month one way trip. Kevin 17:52 You know, I, I've heard anything from six months to five years. I'm like, I'm gonna Google that shit. And we're going to come back to it more but Took opportunity seven months there. Bob 18:03 But that was the slowing down to land or no did not want to actually slow down and land. Kevin 18:09 I have a list of things that have gone to Mars and we're going to cover that in a minute. So stick a pin in that. If you were to, if you were the GALILEO research for the GALILEO probe, and we happen to send you out to Jupiter, which we did, how long do you think it would take to get Jupiter? Bob 18:30 12 years? Six years pretty good. Kevin 18:34 Right on Bob, we sent Cassini to Saturn, how long did you think that took? And that left in 1997 and got there in the year 2000 and 7004. Bob 18:48 So it took seven years to I'm getting closer. Kevin 18:51 Now this one, I'm going to try not to giggle because it's it's how, how long did it take to get to your anus? Unknown Speaker 19:00 Enough. Kevin 19:02 I'm get going. Yes, apparently boys are when it did it hit so we have two voyagers one and two but one of the Voyagers it took eight and a half years so we sent Bob 19:11 a probe to your anus Kevin 19:13 apparently, you know it's funny because over the years you know when I grew up we called it your anus but apparently you know Uranus Uranus. But you know when did that happen? Did just like the political correct people say no caffrey Uranus. We got to see Uranus. Bob 19:28 Too many elementary school children losing their shit every time they talked about space. Kevin 19:34 Yes. And then Voyager made it to Neptune. How long do you think it took to get the Neptune so from the beginning? That's right, Bob 12 years. And then new horizons. That's one of the most recent ones and it made it to Pluto, which is a nonprofit It in 2015 but can you guess when we actually sent the probe Bob 20:05 to Pluto? 1998 2006. So Kevin 20:09 it took nine and a half years to Pluto is on one of those really weird orbits where it's like get some 200 year like, you know, once around the Sun thing. It's kind of weird Bob 20:22 because it's really far away. Kevin 20:24 Yes. So what I was kind of getting at here is it takes a long time to get somewhere. In fact, some more examples of going to Mars as promised here Viking one and 1976 took 335 days to get there. Viking to also in 1976 360 days almost a year to get there. In 2006, the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter 210 days curiosity 253 days and Phoenix lander 295 days so yeah, takes a minute to get there. So How's the space travel looking to you so far? Bob, do you want to go anywhere in the solar system? It's starting to look pretty, pretty long. Bob 21:08 Well, but it's interesting though, when you look at those probe type vehicles and some of the other ones, they're not very big, so their fuel capacity is not very big, so they probably can't do like very long giant sustained burns. So their speed is probably far less than what we would achieve in something that could take passengers right. Kevin 21:31 Yeah, so the the speed at which we hurl the thing, whether it's got people in or not, is dependent on how much fuel there is in it hundred percent. The and the reason you can't put much fuel, let alone a lot of payload into a rocket is because leaving Earth's atmosphere isn't easy. You have to overcome that whole gravity thing out here on Earth. Once you get out of Earth's gravity. You keep chugging along, but the real trouble is just that in Lift. Bob 22:00 So is the new thing that I'm hearing? Or did I totally make this up in my mind that we're going to be exploring, like a staging from the moon, so it doesn't take as much fuel to get out from there. Kevin 22:14 I've heard of some things like that, but I think we're, Bob 22:19 we're moon though, right? Like, I feel like there's a new commitment to going back. Kevin 22:25 That's what Trump said, right? We will not only plant our flag and leave our footprint, we will establish a foundation for an eventual mission to Mars. And perhaps someday too many worlds beyond. That's what he said. But I don't know if he's just sad to say it, you know, he didn't exactly say in this decade, I promise we will go to the moon or whatever, you know, Kennedy said so every every note he ever says, decayed, or that's weird, very Boston. It is it's east coast. All right. Um, so There are challenges with going on through space travel. One of the dangers Yes, duh. One of the dangers is radiation. So once you get outside of Earth's magnetic field and they had this problem with Apollo is the sun wants to kill you. It wants to irradiate you and here on earth we are protected by the ozone, the magnetic thinking and all that so you got radiation. The next thing you got is supplies, you know humans, or let's assume human space travel here. We need food, water, oxygen, shelter, power. What else do we need Bob? Anything or that covered? Bob 23:44 waste disposal. Kevin 23:46 Open the door, hang it out. Close the door. Bob 23:49 That's not how that works in space. Kevin 23:52 But they've got that pretty well figured out right? I mean, I imagine if you can stay on the space station for a year they figured out where to put the pool right. Bob 23:59 Good point. Yeah so the space station we really haven't covered that Kevin 24:05 so so you need so you have radiations problem distances a problem supplies so the food water oxygen and what have you just break down this there's no like you know a spaceships broke down think you could take a look at it you know somewhere out in the middle nowhere triple A is not coming out to fix you right? Bob 24:25 Yeah those first people that are going to be making that trip they're gonna it's pretty much going to be a success or not. Kevin 24:35 So as we alluded to one of the challenges is just getting up to speed you have to break out of Earth's atmosphere. So you're going to have to go at least 17,000 miles an hour in a direction. And let's say you're going to Mars. At some point, you gotta slow down. Slowing down is part of the equation. A lot of times these rockets nice probes will We'll face back the way it was coming in, do a burn to decelerate. And then one of the troubles you have there if you actually want to land on Mars, because that'll put you into orbit around Mars, is now you're changing atmospheres. So the engine that gets you from off of Earth is one thing, the engine that got you from Earth to Mars, maybe another and then the engine that puts you back man safely onto Mars could be a third one, it could be like the first one. So I have a list of rocket types here that Oh, my goodness. Bob 25:35 Couldn't we just group I'm into small, medium and large? I don't understand. Kevin 25:38 I don't know because I'm gonna say I'll be like, I've never heard of the heavier this one. Yeah, so we're going to do that in a second. But of course, when you enter Martian atmosphere, you could use a parachute. So passive braking thing like a parachute bouncy balloons. I guess retrorockets would be more of an active thing, but that's a common thing. So Imagine just leaving Earth atmosphere. A lot of times we use solid rockets or liquid rockets, right? Yeah, very traditionally see him on TV? Blah, blah, blah. So those were all very familiar with but apparently there's the Hall Effect thruster, Bob do remember the Hall Effect thruster? Bob 26:18 What are we talking about those when it we were talking about starlink? Yes. Perfect. Like that ion exchange kind of deal. Is that what that is? Kevin 26:27 That's right. So, you ever remember, remember, maybe you did or didn't Popular Mechanics, you know, when I was growing up as a kid Popular Mechanics would be in somebody's mailbox, it happened to read it. And it would always be this fantastical new engine that you know, this will get us to Mars in five years, you know, blah, blah, blah. You're tracking with me? You know the guy. Yeah. Bob 26:49 Very familiar with Popular Mechanics. Popular Science. Yeah. Yeah, maybe? Yeah, one of those. And so kennix is going to be more like on the ground here. I'm sure you're thinking popular song. Kevin 27:00 Yeah, I think you're right. Very good. So at some point, you got to go Well, today that stuff ever pan out? And how would you know? So Wikipedia actually has a list. And NASA keeps a scale, if you will, it goes from one to nine. Number. So if you're a number one type technology, you are a basic principle observed and report it basically, you're a shower thought at this point, no more. Then it goes all the way up to level nine, which is, it's in operations and it's in testing and there's everywhere in between there. So if I look at my list of space propulsion, and I'm going to send you a link just just cuz I Bob 27:43 can follow along at home. Kevin 27:45 Yes, exactly. So if you guys scroll down, there's there's a table but only 1234 or five six types of engines, if I counted correctly, are actually flight proven number nine And then you've got three that are eights, two that are sevens. Oh, it looks like solar sails are also a nightmare. So I guess seven. But there's a lot of these technologies that are like, well seems like a good idea. We're throwing a shit ton of money at it, but none of its ever actually kind of gone anywhere. And if you think of things like warp drives and things like that, I think that those are on this list somewhere. Bob 28:26 But what that's got to be closer to one though, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't even know drive is totally theoretical, right? Kevin 28:33 Yeah. Okay, so, uh, what's interesting about this list, you have solid rockets and liquid rockets, and the column that I am interested in is the firing duration. Think about it. They can only fire those rockets for a few minutes, right. And that shit either is you've used all your fuel or you got to conserve it. The ones that are interesting are the Hall Effect thrusters, which are on the starlink satellites. Those things can last months, if not years. And so the idea is if you are constantly accelerating and within acceptable human you know, where you won't kill a human. You know, could you get to Mars or somewhere much quicker because you don't? Why? Cuz you're burning constantly because in order to get to Mars quicker, you just need to use more fuel. And so there's not very many engine types on here that last a long time. They're pretty much like fireworks if you will. Yep, yep, there was. That's all we got. And so I'm not very optimistic that we're going to get to you space or to Mars. That is any quicker. What do you think? Bob 29:50 No, I don't I mean, I don't see anything on this list that would actually put us you know, it not within reality. No. So we're living on existing technology, which means we need a giant fuel capacity and we're not going to be able to go very fast. Kevin 30:08 So if we look at Mars again and go, Okay, how long does it take to get to Mars? We originally said about seven months However, because the way Earth and Mars you know, kind of dance around the sun at different, you know, speeds and whatnot, it could actually be as closest 39 days, or as far as 289 days, however, comma, that assumes a straight line distance because we've always been told, well, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So that straight line will take you through the sun in some cases, and ignores gravity and orbits and things like that. So practically speaking, it takes about nine months to get there. And that the real son of a gun here is is that window of opportunity, where it's about seven to nine months to get there is only every 26 months So imagine somebody on Mars calling 911 Hello, NASA 911 how many states are emergency? All right, well, we'll be there in 26 months, maybe, you know, it's not very practical. So that's another challenge. You're, you're pretty much in the frontier. No kidding, right? Bob 31:22 Well, not only is it a challenge for the rescue aspect of it, or the health aspect, but also just the practicality of the trip in general. So let's say we go once we're going again, a year and two months later, Kevin 31:39 probably not. Or probably yes, I mean, you've got you've got a land people on that planet, often right? Bob 31:46 Right. Yeah. But I guess what I'm getting at though is like what is the so one leaves today say the window is today. Say it gets there in nine months. They're not getting any support again, for another No, well, 16 1718 months, Kevin 32:04 not necessarily. I mean, because Earth and Mars are still out there. So you could send somebody this week and somebody else next week except the people that leave this week, it takes them seven months to get there. The people who leave next week at seven months and plus, maybe three weeks because Mars is getting ahead or getting behind Earth is pulling ahead, you know, that sort of thing, Bob 32:26 right? But logistically speaking, you're not going to start staggering them like that until we have a proven method and sustainability. Kevin 32:35 properly. Right. So what are some of the challenges of colonizing Mars specifically? Well, if we come back to food, water, got it. Oxygen, shelter, communications and distance. Those are my main ones here. So we haven't really talked about Communications at all. Know what really grinds my gears about Star Trek Bob. A lot, but let me help you. It has a lot Do the communications because Starfleet Command on earth will be sending a message to Captain Picard and Captain Picard will take it. And he's 100 light years away from Earth, right? And then suddenly he just can speak real time to Starfleet Command makes no sense whatsoever. Because, wait a second, if communication signals travel speed of light, and we're 100 light years away from Earth, shouldn't that radio message take 100 years to get to us? So that bothers me. So, yes, in real terms, if you were to make that 911 call from Mars, or if you wanted to send a Christmas Graham to an astronaut, or whatever, do you want to send the signal, it takes you anywhere from three minutes to about 22 minutes depending on the position of Earth and Mars in relation to each other. You want to talk about latency as it says and latency. considerable lag going on there. So the other day somebody on Twitter had mentioned, you know, time zones with Mars, I'm like, Oh my god, could you imagine having to code not only time for Earth, but time in relation to another planet? Oh boy, how do you want to go there? Is that even possible? You know, train, a train leaves a station on Earth. Another train leaves the station on Mars. When will these two trains collide? Yes, their space trains But yeah, I mean, that's just like, Ah, you have to have, Bob 34:34 yeah, but the daylight the definition of a day on Mars is going to be substantially different than a definition of a day here. Kevin 34:40 Right? So we have universal time here on Earth. Where in Zulu time, does that become the Galactic time? You know, if I'm on Mars, do I just have to care about well what time is it back on Earth but you're right, they have different orbit, orbital periods as they rotate and then they go around the Sun differently. I don't even know if my mind can comprehend this at this point. Bob 35:04 Yeah, this is becoming less and less of a potential possibility as we were on here on the timeline of broadcast. Kevin 35:14 All right, so have you seen the Martian with? What's his name? Bob 35:20 Matt Damon? Kevin 35:21 Yes. I think so. Where he says, I'm going to science the shit out of this. So the premise of the movie is he grows potatoes and the thing Yes, he gets left behind left for dead and then he's actually not dead. It's a pretty good movie. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson says pretty realistic. So I wanted to know, all right, could Is that possible? I did some some interweb research. So let's, let's look at food. So you're Matt Damon. Wait, wait, wait. So you googled? Is it possible to grow food on Mars? Yeah. And there's lots of stuff like that NASA has their own papers on this and I'm going to reference this. Bob 35:59 Yes. How does Now even though they've only sent a little rovers Kevin 36:03 Ah, so I'm going to send you another link while I I talk here. And long story short, we need food right? So how do you grow food on Mars? Well, there's two ways you can grow here. Easy. No, no, we're not going fantastical. Here. We're going practical. So I can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I can't cut and paste and talk at the same time here. Okay, so link set. So I familias hydroponics. Oh yeah. So hydroponics for the lay listeners, you can grow plants without soil at all. All you have to do is basically put nutrient rich water over the roots, and then voila, you have a plant. So Secondly, you can also grow that's overly simplified, but okay. Are you an expert, Bob, can you please enlighten us? Bob 36:55 Plenty of plants with too much water. So trust me, it's possible. All right. Kevin 37:01 So, in the movie with Matt Damon, he grows food basically under attempt, if you will. And according to NASA, Mars has all the nutrients needed for growing stuff. And, in fact, let's see here. I don't know if that that link working that I sent you. Bob 37:23 Yeah, but what about so these are all the things that they found that were positive in this world that would support life. But what about the bad things? Kevin 37:31 Like? Bob 37:33 Well, they didn't list them here. But what about things that would be damaging to plants? Like what if it's overly acidic, or all those things, Kevin 37:40 I can barely get my grass to grow. So I'm no expert at this. But according to their little PDF here, white paper, all the essential plant nutrients are available such as oxygen, carbon, hydrogen bottle bottle, and there's a big list. All right, nobody wants to hear the list. It's out there and Google it. Alright, so assuming to it Assuming we can feed ourselves and that we've overcome the distance to get to Mars in the landing and all that fun stuff. Next thing is water. Where do you think we're going to get water from Bob Bob 38:13 from all the ice? Kevin 38:15 Yes. Where's the ice on Mars though? Bob 38:17 I believe it's underground. Kevin 38:20 Very good. According to my sources, the ice is just below the surface. And or mostly at the southern polar cap. Apparently, there's enough ice frozen up the solar or the southern polar cap. In order to if it were to melt, there would be 36 feet of water over the whole planet. Allegedly. So Bob 38:44 that's a lot of water. Give it a couple lifetimes and I'm sure we'll figure out how to flood that place too. Kevin 38:48 Well, there there's a problem with water on Mars. Bob, do you want to guess what that is? liquid gravity of this note close. If it's not gravity You have no idea what it would be. Bob, if you were to take off your space helmet as you're whipping around Earth trying to fix the Hubble Telescope for the 10th time, what would happen to you? Bob 39:15 Something bad, I'm assuming Kevin 39:16 Yes. where I'm going with this is water here on Earth, liquid water only stays liquid because of temperature and one other element and that is pressure. So if you take a cup of water with you all the way up to outer space, it will evaporate, it'll boil away because the boiling point of water changes depending on how much pressure there so in a vacuum water will boil instantly, right? Bob 39:41 It's at a much lower temperature here, Kevin 39:43 right? So if you take off your space, how much space your liquids boil away, that doesn't sound very fun. So on Mars, it only has 1% of the pressure atmospheric pressure that Earth does. So liquid water If you could haven't liquid water, it would instantly boil away. So it doesn't want to be liquid. You need to have it pressurized. Bob 40:06 How does it stay in a frozen state that Kevin 40:10 frozen water is different than liquid? Well, that's why I kept trying to qualify it with liquid water. Because I don't know chemistry. Bob 40:19 Yeah, but don't you think that the low boiling point due to the lack of pressure would prevent the frozen state from even occurring? Kevin 40:27 This I have no idea I out of my pay grade. Bob 40:30 I don't know science well enough, either. I just I feel like there's lots of really smart people that are you know, investigated this but some of it's not logical out for me. Kevin 40:41 So, so we could get our food, we can get our water allegedly. If we do some stuff. Bob 40:47 We'd have to create artificial pressure environment so it wouldn't boil. Kevin 40:51 Well, you have to do that anyway. It's called your space suit. Because so you don't your liquids inside you don't boil Bob 40:57 well sorry, larger scale right artist. Fishel pressurized areas Kevin 41:01 in Well, you're gonna need a habitat Anyway, you don't want to be like, we're on year three, and I've never taken off my space suit. I've snapped on the inside because I haven't been able to clear anything Reek. Oh my god, but my poop chute. Still working. It's not gummed up too much yet. Anyway, so you've got to have some sort of habitat, which takes the Academy. Next point. In order to go to Mars, you don't just go to Mars with nothing there. You should you should pre stage a bunch of habitats, rovers, food emergency rations, right? You're sending all that way heavier. Bob 41:40 That gets back to one of my earlier comments, though, like how, how many? I mean, realistically, we start right this second. We had all the materials to send up there. Just think about how many trips it would take to even stage the area given optimizing the distance and the speed and the length of time it takes to get there. We're just Far out Kevin 42:02 totally agree but if I'm if you're like Kevin, you need to go to Mars I'd be like Bob, you better spot can send supplies for even put my spacesuit on. Exactly. Bob 42:11 And we haven't sent any of those yet. Right. Okay. And I don't even know what we would send yet Dewey? Kevin 42:17 Well, food, oxygen, water. Bob 42:19 We understand the categorical. You know, we understand the boxes, we have to check but we don't have any of the we don't have existing technology right now to a get it there, be deployed and see have it still be viable by the time people get there? Kevin 42:36 Not math, certainly not. Because every time we send like a rover or something, we all pucker our butts going well, is it gonna crash? That gonna make it you know, it's definitely not perfected yet. Bob 42:47 Right? And it's and that's just one small thing, not nearly enough to sustain a pre flight of supplies. Kevin 42:53 Yeah. And my son and I were talking about this. He's like, Dad, what happened if you put all your supplies here and then you miss you land on the other side? Well, that's bad. So do you have to pre stage all you know, at strategic places all over the frickin planet? Bob 43:07 And that actually, you know, one thing that I do appreciate about some of the more the media, the fantastical, the shows the movies, they're starting to get a little bit more on board with everything doesn't go perfectly. And yeah, the supplies were here, but we're actually 25 miles from there. how we're going to get from point A to point B. Kevin 43:25 Yeah, that's kind of cool. I think you're probably referencing Netflix, Mars. TV show. You've seen that right? Bob 43:32 Yeah, but Lawson space deals with some of that shit on a regular basis. So Kevin 43:35 juicy Season Two yet I've lost in Bob 43:37 space. We're in the middle of it right now. Okay, Kevin 43:39 yeah, actually enjoy it. Yeah, I mean, definitely some laughter knows. But yeah, I really like the Mars thing because they they flip this one of those weird docu dramas where they flip back and forth between reality and drama. Bob 43:53 Is that actually a National Geographic? I don't know. I thought it was a Netflix But well, no, I think it is on net. flicks, but I think it's a National Geographic, like docu drama. Kevin 44:04 Gotcha. I don't know. I might I'm gonna go watch that after this. All right, so we've talked about food we've talked about water, oxygen, how do you take enough oxygen to a planet that just doesn't have enough Bob? Bob 44:17 Well, I don't think they're going to be able to take it I think they get once again, I think they're going to have to devise some technology probably tied to the water and the pressurization to extract oxygen out of that process in kind of like fabricate an environment, Kevin 44:33 very good. Everything. I think in the Martian, they do this basically, you can split the water atom, which is hydrogen, oxygen. If you use a process called electrolysis, you can use electricity to simply have to free the bond between hydrogen and the oxygen. And you can have pure hydrogen and oxygen Of course, it's very dangerous because pure hydrogen flammable and pure oxygen is Well, that's one of the ingredients of freaking fire here, right is an oxidizer. Yeah. So it's a dangerous proposition. The real trouble with electrolysis is it takes a lot of power. Yeah. So you'd have to take that ability up there with you to exactly we haven't even talked about shit. How do we generate? How do we keep the lights on? Right? Because solar power ain't gonna cut it on Mars, you're too far away. Bob 45:24 It's funny though. Like, if you bring this back to conversations we've had about, like artificial intelligence, where it's in its infancy. And then if you layer on top of this, you know, we've mentioned Ilan a couple times already, some of the stuff that he's working on, like, you know, with his solar batteries, his battery banks, the research that they're doing for starlink, you know, to be able to synchronize and you know, the stuff he's doing with SpaceX to be able to send rockets out, bring them back, all the precision that goes into that, like a lot of these pieces actually stack up pretty well as Legos. toward us getting someplace else. Kevin 46:02 Yeah, my fear is we've put all of our attention into getting there and not enough in the Now what? Now so I I'm a little worried that we don't hear me I'm sure some smart think tanks thinking about this. But isn't NASA is Space X worried about this is a another billionaire needs to come along ago Okay, we're not SpaceX we're not we're not the Uber ride to get you to Mars. What we are is where the sustainability company that'll keep you alive. Bob 46:31 Well, I think you might be working toward that with a lot of these smaller projects and I'm doing smaller and air quotes. I mean, maybe they are pieces to a bigger puzzle. Kevin 46:40 So Bob, we've talked about oxygen, but here on earth we don't breathe all oxygen in the air. Do we? Bob 46:49 Sure feels good when you do though. Kevin 46:51 It does. But are you familiar with the infamous ending of Apollo one there was a fire right there. A pure oxygen environment that killed Gus Grissom, Ed white and Roger Chaffee because they didn't think about putting nitrogen and the oxygen environment to prevent an explosion and or a fire from instantly just roof Bob 47:16 you know, consuming the entire capsule. Kevin 47:18 So nitrogen fortunately is available on Mars and the soil, but that's again something else you've got to extract it's not free, it's going to take energy. Now, I imagine because your space, it's starting to wreak as we talked about, you're gonna want to take that off, and you're gonna need a shelter. You're gonna need to some way to bathe yourself somewhere to Bob 47:42 that bathing things that happen for a while. Kevin 47:45 Did you know that in the military that women are not allowed to be out in the field for more than three days? For hygiene reasons. Bob 47:56 Well, that's not space travel. Kevin 47:59 Sorry. It's not space travel, but I gotta think it's got to be the same thing. So it basically have to, are there are there rules for spaceforce written out anywhere? Well, if I guess it's a military branch, so I mean, when you're in basic training, army base training, you are nothing. They don't give two shits about you. But the important thing here is the go. I know we don't care about you your training. We don't care if you're dirty, nasty or whatever. But the women need to go back to the barracks every three days and bathe and come back. And as a male I was like, What the hell? I'm covered in bug bites I smell why cannot go back take shower. Suck it up private. Bob 48:41 Yeah, it's gonna end up going away. That's not gonna be a forever rule. Kevin 48:45 I honestly I'm not a woman. I have no idea. Why that not a rule. Bob 48:50 Never been a woman. Kevin 48:51 Not looking now. So I don't know why I didn't. I didn't want to ask Hey, why why do you have to go back every two days. Is there something else? unaware of what happens to you in these, Bob 49:02 I'm pretty sure when they send men and women on this trip to Mars, there's not going to be any weird rules about women having to bathe every three days. Kevin 49:12 Well, what there might be is rules about fraternization procreation. Bob 49:18 Like mean it's required. Kevin 49:20 Like, if you get if you have a baby or get somebody pregnant, that's that's like, oh, gee, what are we gonna do? Because you think they're sending the gear to handle that? Bob 49:33 Well, first of all, it will be strictly forbidden. Second of all, there's not a damn thing in the world that can do to stop it. It will be strictly forbidden. The first several trips, several, several, maybe most of them too. I mean, we'll get to this later, but they'll all be one way trips. So no one's good. Even though they will be a strict rule not to procreate while they're there. It's going to happen. Kevin 49:58 Yeah, for sure. Because Somehow some way evening army basic training people hook up and I have no idea why you don't want to do that. It's so disgusting. Bob 50:09 But it's that's just human nature for sure. Kevin 50:12 Okay, so we need shelter, we need to be able to Bob 50:14 take that off. You have an important question for you before we get Yep. I honestly believe that we're going to get to this that you and I will see this in our lifetime. Kevin 50:25 That's that's amazing question because Jackson asked me that he's like dad will never happen in our lifetime. I said he's Bob 50:32 got a better shot than you and I do but what and that's what I said that's exactly what Kevin 50:35 I said. I said my lifetime know, your lifetime. Maybe. But honestly, if you I'm kind of doubting that too because and he wants to be the first one on Mars. You know, it's very noble, very, very 11 year old kid, right? But I look at everything go Wait a second. We haven't been in the moon 50 years. Do we give a shit enough to make this happen because the world Just Elon Musk ain't gonna cut it. Bob 51:02 No, but you and I've talked about this before, though there is a there's a very, you know, it's almost like Flat Earth versus round Earth. There's camps that believe we have to go to Mars because this planet is almost done. And then there's actually another camp that thinks even though this planet might not almost be done, we need to go there because we need to be first. And then there's the camp of people who said, We don't need to do that. We need to fix it here. First. Kevin 51:26 Let me see if I can address all three camps. this planet's fucked, we should go to another planet. Honestly, you're you're older than me. And I'm not that far behind. We're to the point where Earth can be around long enough, at least for me and you and probably our kids. No problem. Honestly, just I don't Bob 51:40 know if that's a no problem, but okay. I see a greater chance of us losing coastal lands in our lifetime then getting to Mars. Well, why am I losing coastal lands in the world? So Kevin 51:55 yeah, and I'm no climate denier. But here's what I think Earth doesn't give a shit. Humans are here not earth will be here whether or not there is lots of water lots of land uninhabitable doesn't care humans aren't Earth problem is nothing that humans can do to really piss off Earth, whatever. So it's really a matter of our own existence. Do you do this human humanity went to keep Earth habitable or not. And if we don't want to, or can't, or it's too late or whatever, we have to go to Mars. But let's take a step back. You're telling me we have a better chance on Mars? After all the things we just talked about, Oh, Bob 52:33 no, no, no, no. I'm not saying we have a better chance of seeing more major cities relocated from the coast because they're, they're underwater. Yes, in our lifetime, then us getting to Mars in our lifetime. Kevin 52:45 But given that, given the horrible tragedy of that, that's still like, I'd rather take that over. All the things we just talked about going to Mars that we'd have to overcome. Bob 52:56 Oh, yeah. But there's still camps that say we have to go to Mars because Those things. Kevin 53:01 That's fine, Bob 53:02 sizable camp. I think it would be neat. Kevin 53:05 But if you if I look at everything, like from a business, like, what's the business need here? What what's the business case? I'm going to mark, there isn't really a good one is there? Bob 53:17 Well, there's probably going to be a time in the very near future that that type of business venture could employ people that who otherwise would not be employed, because of the way we're going technologically as well. So Kevin 53:31 well, we have we have unlimited examples of companies that don't make money in the name of well, it would be cool if and why don't we try this? I just don't see the profit of going to Mars because of the enormous expense of just putting a single human being on that frickin planet is amazingly high. Bob 53:54 I will say that it won't become any kind of reality and Unless someone finds a way to make money from it Kevin 54:03 exactly. Oh, or, or we're in a race with the Russians or Chinese, which is more like that. Bob 54:10 That's what I said. The second camp was the people who said that we need to do it because we need to be first. Right? Have you watched that Apple the apple series for all mankind? Kevin 54:21 I don't think so. But do you have apple in Miami? No, I don't. So I guess I haven't. Bob 54:27 Okay. Basically, it's the premise is that we were second to the moon. And it's fictional. Oh, well, yeah. Cuz we were first. Kevin 54:38 I don't know if this is a conspiracy theory, like Flat Earth. Okay. Bob 54:43 It's like, um, it's very similar to man in the high castle. It's look at what life what life would be like if we lost the race to the moon. And then how, how everything cascades down from that it's about the space program in the States. How that was impacted by now. Being first. Okay, I guess it's kind of interesting. I like those premises. Kevin 55:05 So a large part of me believes the only reason we went to the moon wasn't because it was there. And it was hard. It's because the Russians were beating us in the space race pure and simple, right. Bob 55:18 Can you just do the rest of the episode with your SJ? Okay. Kevin 55:24 We choose to go to the moon, not because it's easy about because it's hard. Okay. Wow. That's right. That's on a podcast forever now. Okay. So, one of the last things that we talked about, we already touched on is power. So I can only think because solar power is kind of out. You're not gonna burn coal. You're not gonna have you might have methane there. But I think nuclear power would be the ideal choice, wouldn't it? Bob 55:54 I think for portability and relative ease of setup and something we're familiar with Yes, because everything else is very large scale. Yeah, everything's large and scale Kevin 56:06 the electrolysis if I mean, you're gonna need oxygen. And that takes me to like, okay, now you've let's assume we've overcome the impossible. And we have some infrastructure there. What sort of skill sets are we putting there? I'm thinking doctors, engineers, mechanics, security, what other kind of people Bob 56:28 it's almost going to have to be like a microcosm of every discipline we have in any thriving community, because you're going to need all those support staff. And then anytime where you can find multiple hat wearers, in those very specialized areas, they'll be worth their weight in some rare metal that we just go from Mars that somebody gets rich from. Kevin 56:48 So not that I'm volunteering to go to Mars, but when you're in the military, and they send you to, I don't know, the Middle East where there's nothing and you have to stand up a whole tent city and have internet and everything. You start start figuring out who's valuable and who's not. And I was in a communications unit and we had to wear those multiple hats. One thing that we weren't good as communicators was getting the generator running, keeping it running the the heavy equipment, so we had mechanics embedded with us. So I imagine you need some very specialized people you're not sending philosophers to Mars properly. You're not sending poets. You're sending blue collar, no, and they'd be the proverbial tits on a chicken. It's amazing. So, um, I think a lot of our I'm probably influenced a lot by our sci fi stuff where you have like, you know, security people, but But what I'm more thinking of you probably have martial law there, right? Hey, you quit fucking so and so quit trying to make a baby. You're gonna ruin the mission or whatever. Right? Yeah, I would think the military would be like the project managers. Just like the general, like, structure to it all. So yeah, military would be there. They'd be your security, police slash project managers. So in season two of Mars, they had two groups on that land on Mars One was like the UN version of colony and the other one was private, private enterprise. And so whenever the private enterprises do something, the UN people like, hey, you're not allowed to do that. Blah, blah, blah. And they would always reply, like the fuck we can't, we're private. Go fuck yourself. We can do whatever the fuck we want. Go ahead and stop it. Bob 58:34 Well, that brings up a really good question, though. And something we really haven't talked about, which is kind of why we started this topic, though. We will have any un presence, would we because it's going to be 100% commercial at this point. Kevin 58:50 We would well see, that's where it gets slippery because NASA government agency funds SpaceX, so there's You know, the old world the money really kind of controls Bob 59:03 everything. Do they fund a SpaceX or do they contract to SpaceX? Kevin 59:09 All right, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know. But somebody wrote a check. Bob 59:12 That's all I know. Right. But Ilan could most certainly, or more likely, you know, a basis or a Branson could go there with their own funding, and NASA would be cut out of it, like, almost like NASA scientists would be hired as consultants from the commercial enterprises. That's how kind of I see it. Kevin 59:34 So when we talk about starlink, we kind of talked about what happens is, if SpaceX goes out of business, and there's 40,000 satellites zipping around up there, and nobody's in control of them anymore. The government's gonna take that over, right? Bob 59:47 Or he sells them for pennies on the dollar to Jeff Bezos who's trying to do the same thing. Okay, I would like that to happen first, Kevin 59:54 my latest episode of Black Mirror sounds like this. Elon Musk died. SpaceX goes out of business. There's 200 colonists stuck on Mars haven't heard from Earth. They're not sure what's happening anymore. yada yada yada yada. So who rescues these people? Bob 1:00:14 I don't think anyone does. Kevin 1:00:15 Damn, that better be in my contract. I'm gonna be getting some life insurance there. Bob 1:00:20 So no, I think anybody who's making that trip for the foreseeable future and I'm talking like, you know, the better part of a quarter of a century they're not they're going to it's a one way mission. Nobody's coming back from there for a long time. Kevin 1:00:37 Dear, do you think it should be a one way mission period there is no come home figure it out. I mean, I'd be motivated if I'm there. Okay. There is no go home guys. Bob 1:00:46 Well, since we barely have a plan, well, we don't we don't have any methodology or plan to get there this point. I don't see the get home park coming for far, far past to get there. Kevin 1:00:59 So let's take that temperature. Can you you asked the question, will this happen in our lifetime? I think we agree not not yours or mine. Bob 1:01:07 Right? Yeah, totally agree with their Kevin 1:01:09 pick. Pick a number on the timeline. What year do you think will be there if at all? Bob 1:01:14 So we're at 2020 right now. Yeah, I would guess. Other so we're talking about first landing like six people in the smallest spaceship possible. Man has taken his first leak on Mars. When does that happen? 2080 Kevin 1:01:35 Okay, what technologies need to have all the things we talked about getting there? generating food, water, shelter, oxygen of all those things. What technology Do you feel is holding us back the most? Bob 1:01:56 I think the the the portability of reliable storage structures. I think that's like what it's you know, it's it's not. It's not an appear infrastructure thing. It's the ability to take something that needs to be at scale quickly after landing, but have it be portable enough to get there in one shipment. I think that's the biggest challenge, Kevin 1:02:19 basically, blast off an entire Moon or Mars base with crew and everything and we'll be able to land everything in place. Bob 1:02:29 I think you get a shortcut for the first trip, because you could make the ship somewhat sustainable for long enough maybe for the next people to get there. But you have to have some kind of architectural, you know, modularity, that it's simple to deploy and highly functional and environment that we don't know that much about. Kevin 1:02:50 I think it's the propulsion to get there. That's the biggest thing get us back six months. It's just seven months or longer getting there with certain launch but I think that's just crippling at this point. Bob 1:03:02 Yeah. But do you think I just don't know if that technology? I mean, that technology might be hundreds of years off to close that gap? Kevin 1:03:12 Well, the Mars show we've been talking about had a really cool concept. I just remind myself up. They have an orbital space station at Mars. That's the supply drop ship. So right so only Bob 1:03:24 one ship has the land basically. Right? Kevin 1:03:27 So you could send a barge, if you will, from Earth. Okay, so imagine the space station that we have right now. Hey guys, it's it's decommissioned. But you know what, it can hold a lot of shit. They can hold supplies. So what we're going to do is we're a packet full of stuff. And then we're going to attach rockets to it and then we're going to send it to Mars, and it's going to now orbit Mars. Now we're going to send humans to Mars, to the space station and we're just going to start by inhabiting the space station nobody goes down to earth yet or Mars yet Bob 1:03:56 just like we thing, but our space station. What's it max capacity 642 Yeah. Okay. Kevin 1:04:07 All right, it needs to grow a little bit. But let's, let's say we upscale that a little bit. We have a space station that's going around Mars, and then that's the supply closet, if you will. And then we can send you know, once once we establish a human presence around a Mars, we can then start with accuracy start going, Okay, we need to land supplies here. Now we can land humans there, we kind of take away a lot of the risk. I think Bob 1:04:32 it also takes away Yeah, it takes away a lot of the targeting oopsies too. Because you get into orbit you eventually dock with the space station. In theory, there's a shuttle that's much more easy to target and control getting back and we'll even one ways so that the trip that goes out there, there could be like a capsule that becomes the new thing that they just shoot down at the surface. Kevin 1:04:53 Yeah, and they have that so emergencies came up in the in the season and what they would do is they would radio to the channel. Nice, I think we're running the space station like, Hey, we need a whatever, whatever. So when you fly over that particular area, do a drop. And then you know those people get it. So I think that's actually one of the nicer things because if you send a rocket from Earth and you want it to land on Mars, I think you enter orbit first. That's normal. But why not have a more permanent presence in Mars orbit that you could, you know, use as a lifeboat if you will, for anyone who goes to the ground? Pretty much what the Apollo program did? Bob 1:05:31 Yeah, that's still I still think we're a good hundred years off. Kevin 1:05:36 I would agree. It's not gonna happen in my lifetime. I don't know if I can tell Jackson. My honest to god opinion because I don't think it'll happen in his lifetime either. I think we spend too much time on the, the possibility of the rocket I think we haven't spent enough time on the Okay, we're here now what? Because, you know, I just don't think we've thought about Emily's, they said it doesn't happen in the public very often. We've talked through a lot of the things here that could go wrong and that's a lot of weight lot of infrastructure, a lot of gear. And then we got humans, you know what if a human goes crazy whether they're they're gonna they're gonna incarcerated human have a prison on Mars? Bob 1:06:14 No way. They'll just zap them. Right. Kevin 1:06:16 I mean, that's probably what will happen. But you know, are you gonna go ahead and say that's your policy? Probably not. Yeah. fuck up, you're dead? By who's? Bob 1:06:27 I think that's an understood risk of the entirety of the trip. Kevin 1:06:30 Well, I that's why I think it's gonna be very militaristic. I mean, the military has come up, or has had these situations come up. So this isn't like new way of life for the military. That's why I think there comes a point where civilians can only do so much maybe the civilians can create the rockets, but you're gonna have to send the space force or whoever to actually man it. Bob 1:06:55 Well, tell Jackson to figure out what he thinks the biggest problem is and have that dude up and maybe it happens in his lifetime if he studies up. Unknown Speaker 1:07:04 Yeah, I'm not so optimistic, but I'll Kevin 1:07:07 tell them what you're about. Yeah. All right, what do we forget? Bob 1:07:13 I'm sure we forgot tons. But since we were kind of like, disclaimer, we're not scientists or mathematicians know we're billionaires are just two dudes bullshit about tech. Unknown Speaker 1:07:25 And today it was about space. Kevin 1:07:28 All right, good stuff, man. Unknown Speaker 1:07:29 Yeah. Remember, if you're still listening, Bob 1:07:34 do that like thing. Have your Spotify listener follow? I don't know what it is. That just helps us know who we're reaching. And you know what, you can always hit us up on Twitter. Kevin 1:07:46 Yes, and if you want to Bob and Kevin show sticker. I've actually sent a few internationally now and some domestically. And if you'd like one I gotta do is reach us on social media. I'm going to do all the cyber stalking like hey, do they have Follow uh, so they just like try to get free sticker do they actually listen or do all that? Of course I'll just set it anyway but, but I'll tell you Bob 1:08:08 if you're following us, I'll tell him not to. So. Kevin 1:08:11 Alright, have a great day stamp. Bob 1:08:13 Yes. Until next time, this has been the bob Kevin Show. Unknown Speaker 1:08:21 Hey, have you ever wondered how you can get in touch with us at the Bob and Kevin show? Well, first, you can try us via email and comments at Bob and Kevin show calm or are you more into social? If so you can find us on Twitter at Bob and Kevin show. Or on Instagram, as Bob Kevin show. That's Bob the letter M. Kevin show. And

This is part 2 our interview with George Leopold, who wrote Gus Grissom's biography entitled, “Calculated Risk: The Supersonic Life and Times of Gus Grissom” It was initially published by Purdue University Press in 2016, and a paperback edition was released in 2019.In this podcast, co-hosts Eleanor O'Rangers and Tom Hill continue their discussion with George, exploring the process of researching and writing a biography, the legacy of the Apollo 1 fire which claimed the lives of Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee, and the elephant in the room—the portrayal of Gus in the 1983 movie, “The Right Stuff”.++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You can follow George Leopold on Twitter @gleopold1 or on his blog: https://gleopold.wordpress.com/

¿Qué necesitaba América para vencer en la carrera a la luna a los soviéticos? Las tensiones de la Guerra Fría persistieron, mientras circulaban rumores de que los soviéticos se estaban preparando para enviar una nave espacial no tripulada a la luna. La NASA desarrolló rápidamente el programa Géminis, enviando astronautas a la órbita alrededor de la Tierra para practicar maniobras críticas para el eventual viaje a la luna. Ed White se convirtió en el primer estadounidense en caminar en el espacio, una experiencia tan emocionante que, cuando Houston le ordenó regresar a la nave espacial, respondió: "¡Todavía no!". La nave espacial de próxima generación de la NASA, el Apolo 1, debía lanzar dramáticamente la nueva era. Virgil Grissom, Ed White y Roger Chaffee fueron el primer equipo de Apollo. En un fresco día de enero en Florida, en 1967, los tres hombres se prepararon para un entrenamiento previo al lanzamiento en la nueva cápsula de comando. Dos horas y media después del entrenamiento, en algún lugar de la cápsula cerrada, se produjo un incendio. El diseño de la escotilla se abrió hacia adentro y los tres hombres perecieron. El control de la misión era impotente. El desastre sacudió a la nación y puso en duda el futuro de Apolo, la NASA y toda la raza a la luna. El costo tal vez fue demasiado alto.

¿Qué necesitaba América para vencer en la carrera a la luna a los soviéticos? Las tensiones de la Guerra Fría persistieron, mientras circulaban rumores de que los soviéticos se estaban preparando para enviar una nave espacial no tripulada a la luna. La NASA desarrolló rápidamente el programa Géminis, enviando astronautas a la órbita alrededor de la Tierra para practicar maniobras críticas para el eventual viaje a la luna. Ed White se convirtió en el primer estadounidense en caminar en el espacio, una experiencia tan emocionante que, cuando Houston le ordenó regresar a la nave espacial, respondió: "¡Todavía no!". La nave espacial de próxima generación de la NASA, el Apolo 1, debía lanzar dramáticamente la nueva era. Virgil Grissom, Ed White y Roger Chaffee fueron el primer equipo de Apollo. En un fresco día de enero en Florida, en 1967, los tres hombres se prepararon para un entrenamiento previo al lanzamiento en la nueva cápsula de comando. Dos horas y media después del entrenamiento, en algún lugar de la cápsula cerrada, se produjo un incendio. El diseño de la escotilla se abrió hacia adentro y los tres hombres perecieron. El control de la misión era impotente. El desastre sacudió a la nación y puso en duda el futuro de Apolo, la NASA y toda la raza a la luna. El costo tal vez fue demasiado alto.

Dans un épisode précédent on parlait du velcro comme l’invention de Dieu? Parlez-en à la NASA, qui a perdu 3 astronautes à cause - notamment - du velcro. Avec Hélène Laurin et Charles Trahan

Hey guys, ThomasJ here and, I have a quick, quick story for you. Back in January of 1967, the space race was in full force. Everybody was focused on getting to the moon, beating the Russians and Apollo one was set to launch on their first mission and the astronauts, Gus Grissom and Ed White, Roger Chaffee, loaded into the command module on top of the Saturn rocket in a kind of a sort of a dress rehearsal for the upcoming launch. And they wanted to make everything the same as it would be on launch day run down all the systems and, and, and so they wanted to make it, you know, exactly like it was going to be. So they, astronauts got in the command module, they, they, they strapped in and they close the hatch and then they pump the, the command module, you know, full of oxygen. And they actually pressurized it above atmosphere, just, just like they would on launch day. And after several hours of going through all the systems and checking everything, you know, something happened on the comms, the control room could barely make it out. Uh, but there were screams and, distress because there are a fire that had started in the module and the astronauts tried frantically to get the hatch open, but they couldn't because it opened inward in the pressure was keeping it closed and the people outside of rush to help and tried to open the hatch, but nobody was really strong enough. Uh, do do that over pressure, pressurization and, and soon the fire resulted in an explosion, sending the people that we're trying to get out of the hatch across the room and, and killing all three astronauts. It was a very sad day for the, for the space program. And I remember hearing about this when I was in college and we actually have a building named Grissom hall that I took my classes in, due to a Gus Grisham's a sacrifice. And, and, it kind of made me mad that they didn't think of this stuff before. I mean, pure oxygen is extremely flammable. Have you ever seen the old people with the tanks and, the no smoking sign that, that's on the side of them. I mean, the air we breathe is most mostly nitrogen and a only about 27% oxygen. So all it took in that command module was a tiny spark. I mean, everything was soaking and completely permeated with oxygen. And so just that little spark lit everything on fire and the flames rush through, the command module very quickly. And on top of that, the hatch was not designed to be opened quickly and so no one could help them. And, uh, the point is that they were just too focused on the goal to think of these things. And sure. Hindsight's 20, 20, but it seemed like they, they ignored some of these things. They, they brush by them and on their, you know, charged to do this, they forgot to do it. Right. And, uh, you know, how does this apply to Mlm? Cause this is a, a rocket science MLM podcast here. And, and you know, that's kind of like when I, I've ignored too and in my MLM journey, and you may have done this too. I mean, I love the product so much, I just wanted to help people. So I just got out there and I wasted so much of my time. I mean, I'm a numbers guy and I should have done the math. If I spend an hour or two helping people, uh, you know, a person each week and, and then I help their people and, and I'm on the phone doing three way calls, you know, setting aside an hour or two each day. And, it's before long. You know, if you have a big team, you're completely swamped. I know I was talking to, uh, one of my team members who just signed up, somebody that is doing all these shows and events and she said she barely had time to call me back because she was so swamped. And I just, in my head, I'm thinking, that's not what I want to do and I got to get this new way. I got to get a better way going. So that people don't have to kill themselves thinking that's what they need to do to build this business. And companies have proven systems that they tell you to do, but in the end, you end up, you have less time instead of that extra time promised in all the, you know, the dream propaganda of Llm. I mean, building a business, a multilevel marketing business is a great way to create a extra income and create a real asset. Uh, but if you do it at the expense of all your time, it's no different than a job. And in really per hour, you'll end up making less. So how do we, how do we fight this? We use rocket science, right? That's what this podcast is about. So I like to talk about it and maybe not real rocket science, but why don't we take a cue from some of my coworkers, I mean, there's a guy at work and we call them script master, right? He's the guy that will, that can code up all kinds of things. And, and if you don't know much about computers or premium programming, a script is kind of a set of commands that you write a to do something that's repetitive over and over again. If you need to, something as simple as move this piece of, data, cut it from here and paste it there and cut another thing from somewhere else and paste it here. Just maybe putting stuff together. And we can think of that doing that manual. I mean in excel, Microsoft Excel, if many of you guys out there know what that is, you call, you can call it a macro something that you do over and over again. Basically, my coworkers philosophy is this. If you have to do something more than once or twice, automate it. I mean, we routinely have to crunch numbers, but we don't actually do the crunching. I mean, the computer does that. We set up the system and let it crunch away and it, and he spends, my coworker spends hours and hours in the beginning to set up this automation. But then he's got it forever. He never has to do it again. And instead of it's a task taking three days, he's got it down to an hour. And, the speed of, of what we do is continuing to increase and more and more as expected, as computers get faster and faster out of us. And so you think that maybe we would just be sit around doing nothing. But what this does is it allows us to spend more time on other things that need our attention and allows us to make a better product overall because we've had some of these repetitive things done. So how does this, how does this fit into Mlm? I mean, how do we leverage our time? I mean, that's a great word. I love that. We call it leveraging our words. Like, you're, you're doing something once and then using it over and over again. I mean, many companies, you know, they have videos that you can share and it helps. It helps tremendously. I mean, you know, just to show people the videos so you don't have to go over the sales pitch or, or to explain the products over and over again. You can just show it to somebody and say, hey, watch your email it to him. But let's take that a step further. What if you could automate the, hey, watch it, you know, kind of part of it. Instead of wasting your time showing everybody the video and eventually running out of who to show it to and then following up with them and chasing after the say, did you watch it? What do you think? Uh, what if you could show it to a ton of people and then only have the ones that are interested, contact you. As I mentioned in my last podcast, I talked about my supreme failure with paying someone to build this for me. Well, it fell flat and I searched out how to do it myself. What I essentially had tried was to sell myself without doing the marketing first. So all these automations and things can be good, but you also have to get the right foundation. And, I came across the book and it was called Dotcom secrets by Russell Brunson. And he also has a great book called expert secrets and it, and what they talk about is how to market online, how to do things the right way instead of just selling. And, it completely opened my eyes on the online marketing world and how it worked. And it talked about a thing called a sales funnel. And basically it's a website with a very specific structure. And if you don't know what it is, you provide value with the front to get people to enter your funnel. And, the ones that want to continue naturally, maybe they purchased something little, we'll go onto the next thing and all, and you have a new offer and you move them down a process marketing to them and selling them the whole time. And in docker and you use what they call a term called indoctrination. That's hard to say, to basically warm them up. You know, cause they're cold at first. There are cold market and they, you kind of warm them up automatically in, you have a new warm market, in the cool thing is, you can set these things up and tweak them and, and keep working on them as they're running and as they're moving and analyze them and test them and get them to work. And that's kind of what I'm doing a with everything I do. But, you know, they really should be called a sifter because people fall out instead of continue on. But that kind of annoys me. But, we call it a funnel. And a, my first thought was how can I use this to sell my product? It's a little tricky with MLM companies because you can't control the product. And, what annoyed me with all the recruiting focus that most leaders had is, you know, online or otherwise, it's not all about recruiting. You got to sell product. And the Federal Trade Commission makes the companies require, you know, say product sales. Otherwise it truly is a pyramid scheme if you don't have any product. And in a lot of these leaders just figure if you're recruiting in recruiting product sales, we'll just figure it out. And that annoys me. I mean, there are people in my down line that never made any money because they couldn't sell anything. And I don't care how many videos you give them or apps or anything like that, they just, they can't talk to people. They can't do the marketing ahead of it to get them to see the video. They, fall short, in what really needs to be done. The videos are great for selling, but you've got to have a foundation. You gotta have the thing before it. So my first goal really in all this is to create a, a funnel to sell my product, not really to make money, but to help my team stay above the compliance line. And number one, it means they'll stick around more and not give up and it'll be worth it for them to stay a number two, they're more likely to recruit a selling isn't an issue. I think if you have product sales, taking care of recruiting figures itself out because even if you don't use the automated methods I'm developing, if you tell your friend, Hey, I've got a way to automatically sell my product and if you want to make some money, I can show you how to do it. It works itself out. They want to join your team and you get the product out there in front of so many more people. If I mean truthfully, ah, I felt like I have a moral obligation to get my product into more hands. I mean it's helped so many people. We have a testimony page and I see all the time how it's changing lives. And you know, what's cool about multilevel marketing, they have great products and they do help a lot of people and getting him out there is, is the structure of the Mlm. I mean that's, that's their, it's their, their thing. Instead of putting it in a store, they are relying on us. So it's, it's kind of a moral obligation as distributors to get it out there. No. But this is kind of where it gets fun. Little Fun with the, the rocket building, the rocket. It's, it's advanced stuff. But let me, let me throw this little seed out there that what if we could create a system that sells the product and you get paid no matter if people actually buy that MLM product. Boom. That's all I gotta say. So, I'll be talking about that in further podcasts, but it's more complicated than putting a funnel together and sending traffic to it. It all comes back to the marketing and, and future podcast. We'll talk, go in depth to these things. And you know, as I build my product funnels and as I do my marketing message, you guys can follow along. Okay. So, so now what if we, you know, let's assume that we have the product taken care of and, or whether you're selling it to your, you know, friends and family, which is great because you want them to be a customer because they're going to be benefit from the products. And I do have, my family is a customer for me. Uh, but none of them really want to do the actual business. And so I thank them for keeping me above the compliance line and, and move on. But, you know, what I notice is I looked around the marketplace is, is the top leaders in Mlm aren't. I bet you know, pretty sure that they aren't going to malls. And in talking to people when they are doing a home meeting every night, and with my new understanding of online marketing, I started a search out, you know, what are they doing online? I mean, what, what makes them so successful? And what I found out is they were selling their own stuff and they didn't push the opportunity at all. It was this concept that called paid prospecting. At first I was thinking, paying to prospect like you pay ads or whatever and people come to you. That's what I tried before. And it doesn't work. And you end up wasting a lot of money and time and what really is the right way to do it is these top leaders are getting paid to prospect. I mean, can you imagine that? No matter what if somebody joins or not, you can get a little bit of money here and then continue on and stoke the fire of the recruiting system. I mean, they created products especially related to info to warm people up and provided value in that people wanted whether they wanted to join the, you know, their downline or not. That's, that's marketing. And once you've provided a ton of high value, people out there would get out their wallets and pay for the next thing, maybe a $7 book or a $57 Webinar, two or more. And then once they get out their wallets, they're qualified lead people that just want free stuff. Aren't the people you want on your team. I think about the samples. How many samples do you have handed out for free and very small portion of those people actually want to buy your product more likely if you were to sell that sample for a dollar, it would actually probably work better with these, this is the same thing. But with recruiting, I mean, if somebody gets out their wallets, they're voting, They're voting with their wallets. And I, and I got that from, one of the experts that talks about this a lot, this paid prospecting now. And then you add automation on all of that into becomes a system that is doable, that in the time constraints that you have with your job and your family, you can create something. And my goal really is to create this system for my team. Let them use it. So I'm the one that's putting all the time and I'm the one that's putting the time in up front and you guys can be here, to see how I do it. But you know, one of the loudest voices in ideas of, in the idea of paid prospecting has tons of training on this subject. And I've been soaking it in, soaking up everything, trying to apply it. And I actually, you know, I'm sitting here thinking, watching some training and thinking to myself, man, he's good. I mean, to see him explain things and do things. And I want to join his down line. I mean, he's so good at it. I don't even, I don't want to join his company, but I want to be in his down line and that's what it's about. And now I actually love that my company and I love the people of my company, so I'm not, I'm not going to jump ship and, and, I won't ever say what, what company I'm in, but I just want you to know it's okay to stay where you are. If you're happy with your MLM. Good. Let's just, let's just make it better. I mean, my whole goal is to help others get started like me in this, in this automated kind of, online system and you know, to present an honest journey from start to finish, and then beyond, hopefully, hopefully it takes off, you know, we'll have to count down to launch day when it gets here and I'll probably have a lot of fun with that when I finally get to kick it off and you get to see the numbers and see if it's working. And, that's, pretty much it. You know, if you're interested in my journey, head over to rocketsciencemlm.com to stay up to date on everything I'm putting together my rocket MLM blueprint, and I'll send it out when it's ready, and then we'll talk about in the podcast and we'll walk through the steps and we'll, we'll build this together. So if you want to continue on the journey to help me build it and integrate and test it, you know, what works, what doesn't, it will all be here. And, hopefully you guys can come along. So this is Thomas j and a, see you later.

It's April 20, 1969 and KHCN-AM 4747 remembers the three brave Americans who died in the Apollo 1 fire a little more than two years ago. But these heroes – Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee – did not die in vain. Procedures were changed and a newer, safer capsule was designed. The program, likely, was saved. Support the show.

Royal Observatory Astronomers Patricia and Greg take you through what to see in the night sky during the month of April in our family friendly Look Up! podcast. This month, a look back to the tragic story of Apollo 1 as Patricia explains Northrop Grumman's recent dedication of its Cygnus spacecraft to astronaut Roger Chaffee, while Greg looks at much longer journeys as he talks about hypervelocity stars, objects being ejected from our home galaxy out into the depths of space. Join us on Twitter @ROGAstronomers and vote for your favourite story!

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Portrays the tragedy of the Apollo 1 fire from the perspective of its subsequent investigation by NASA and the US Congress. Its effects on key individuals are shown, including Harrison Storms of North American Aviation, Joseph Shea of NASA, astronaut Frank Borman charged with supporting NASA's investigation, and the widows of Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee. Episode 2 links: Apollo 1 Fire News Broadcast Apollo 1 Newsreel Frank Borman speaking about Apollo 1 Fire Apollo 1 Congressional Hearing Newsreel FTETTM Apollo 1 fire scene

This week, we recount the Apollo 1 fire that claimed the lives of Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee.

Southern Sense is conservative talk Annie "The Radio Chick" Ubelis, as host and "CS" Bennett, co-host. Informative, fun, irreverent and politically incorrect, you never know where we'll go, but you'll love the journey! Southern-Sense.comDedication: Apollo 1 astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White II and Roger Chaffee. On Jan. 27, 1967, the astronauts were preparing for the first manned Apollo flight. The astronauts were sitting atop the launch pad for a pre-launch test when a fire broke out in their capsule and they perished. Credit: NASAGuest: Dr. Steve Turley TurleyTalks was founded to awaken our secular culture to the societal richness of the Christian faith. We do this by teaching Christians to discern the myriad of ways in which we have been expecting the secular world to do and accomplish what only the church, endowed with the Holy Spirit, can. We in turn provide the answers and resources that enable Christians to effectively recalibrate social and cultural life back around the shared life-world of the church and thereby enable human flourishing in the midst of a modern secular age. We accomplish this by reaching key demographics within the Christian population: educators, pastors, intellectuals, entrepreneurs, artists, and activists with rich yet accessible content that effectively answers their questions and concerns with in-depth social and cultural analysis and distinctively Christian solutions. turleytalks.com Facebook: turleytalks Youtube: Dr. Steve Turley

Southern Sense is conservative talk Annie "The Radio Chick" Ubelis, as host and "CS" Bennett, co-host.  Informative, fun, irreverent and politically incorrect, you never know where we'll go, but you'll love the journey!  Southern-Sense.com Dedication: Apollo 1 astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White II and Roger Chaffee. On Jan. 27, 1967, the astronauts were preparing for the first manned Apollo flight. The astronauts were sitting atop the launch pad for a pre-launch test when a fire broke out in their capsule and they perished. Credit: NASA Guest: Dr. Steve Turley TurleyTalks was founded to awaken our secular culture to the societal richness of the Christian faith. We do this by teaching Christians to discern the myriad of ways in which we have been expecting the secular world to do and accomplish what only the church, endowed with the Holy Spirit, can. We in turn provide the answers and resources that enable Christians to effectively recalibrate social and cultural life back around the shared life-world of the church and thereby enable human flourishing in the midst of a modern secular age. We accomplish this by reaching key demographics within the Christian population: educators, pastors, intellectuals, entrepreneurs, artists, and activists with rich yet accessible content that effectively answers their questions and concerns with in-depth social and cultural analysis and distinctively Christian solutions. turleytalks.com  Facebook: turleytalks  Youtube: Dr. Steve Turley

Southern Sense is conservative talk Annie "The Radio Chick" Ubelis, as host and "CS" Bennett, co-host. Informative, fun, irreverent and politically incorrect, you never know where we'll go, but you'll love the journey! Southern-Sense.comDedication: Apollo 1 astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White II and Roger Chaffee. On Jan. 27, 1967, the astronauts were preparing for the first manned Apollo flight. The astronauts were sitting atop the launch pad for a pre-launch test when a fire broke out in their capsule and they perished. Credit: NASAGuest: Dr. Steve Turley TurleyTalks was founded to awaken our secular culture to the societal richness of the Christian faith. We do this by teaching Christians to discern the myriad of ways in which we have been expecting the secular world to do and accomplish what only the church, endowed with the Holy Spirit, can. We in turn provide the answers and resources that enable Christians to effectively recalibrate social and cultural life back around the shared life-world of the church and thereby enable human flourishing in the midst of a modern secular age. We accomplish this by reaching key demographics within the Christian population: educators, pastors, intellectuals, entrepreneurs, artists, and activists with rich yet accessible content that effectively answers their questions and concerns with in-depth social and cultural analysis and distinctively Christian solutions. turleytalks.com Facebook: turleytalks Youtube: Dr. Steve Turley

Southern Sense is conservative talk Annie "The Radio Chick" Ubelis, as host and "CS" Bennett, co-host.  Informative, fun, irreverent and politically incorrect, you never know where we'll go, but you'll love the journey!  Southern-Sense.comDedication: Apollo 1 astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White II and Roger Chaffee. On Jan. 27, 1967, the astronauts were preparing for the first manned Apollo flight. The astronauts were sitting atop the launch pad for a pre-launch test when a fire broke out in their capsule and they perished. Credit: NASAGuest: Dr. Steve Turley TurleyTalks was founded to awaken our secular culture to the societal richness of the Christian faith. We do this by teaching Christians to discern the myriad of ways in which we have been expecting the secular world to do and accomplish what only the church, endowed with the Holy Spirit, can. We in turn provide the answers and resources that enable Christians to effectively recalibrate social and cultural life back around the shared life-world of the church and thereby enable human flourishing in the midst of a modern secular age. We accomplish this by reaching key demographics within the Christian population: educators, pastors, intellectuals, entrepreneurs, artists, and activists with rich yet accessible content that effectively answers their questions and concerns with in-depth social and cultural analysis and distinctively Christian solutions. turleytalks.com  Facebook: turleytalks  Youtube: Dr. Steve Turley

  On this date in 1967, three American astronauts died in a training accident on the launch pad in Florida. Here are some things you may not have known about Apollo 1. Following the successes of the Mercury and Gemini programs, the next step in landing a man on the moon was the three-man Apollo program. The astronauts chosen as the first crew for the Apollo program were Gus Grissom, one of the original Mercury Seven astronauts, Ed White, who had been the first American to walk in space, and rookie Roger B. Chaffee. Chaffee’s spot had originally been given to Donn F. Eisele, who was grounded after dislocating his shoulder during weightlessness training on board a training craft nicknamed a “vomit comet.” Gus Grissom was born in Indiana in 1926. After serving in the Army Air Forces during the end of World War II, Grissom returned home an earned a degree in mechanical engineering from Purdue University in 1950. He reenlisted in the Air Force after graduating and served during the Korean War, flying 100 combat missions. In 1958 he was selected by NASA to be part of a preliminary group of pilots for the Mercury program. He was nearly disqualified when he was found to suffer from hay fever, but was allowed to continue once it was determined that there wasn’t any ragweed pollen in space. Grissom was the second American in space in Liberty Bell 7. Grissom’s first space flight lasted 15 and a half minutes. After splashdown, the hatch cover exploded open filling the capsule with seawater. Grissom’s spacesuit also filled with water, but he was rescued. The capsule sank and wasn’t recovered until 1999. Grissom became the first American to fly into space twice when he piloted Gemini 3 with John W. Young. It was the first manned Gemini mission. The mission lasted a little under five hours. Ed White was born in Texas in 1930. He graduated from West Point in 1952 and served in the Air Force, stationed in West Germany. He narrowly missed qualifying for the U.S. Olympic team in the 400-meter hurdles. He was part of the second group of astronauts and was chosen to fly on Gemini 4. On that flight he was the first American to leave a space capsule. He enjoyed the experience so much that he had to be ordered to return to the capsule. A mechanical issue made it difficult to open and close the hatch door, which had to be latched to re-enter Earth’s atmosphere. The capsule and crew returned safely following a four-day mission. Roger Chaffee was born in Michigan in 1935. He graduated with a degree in Aeronautical Engineering from Purdue. He served as a naval aviator, logging more than 2,000 hours in jet aircraft. He was part of the third group of astronauts and served on the ground as a capsule communicator for Ed White’s Gemini 4 mission. On January 27, 1967, the crew was loaded into the spacecraft as part of a “plugs-out” test to see if the module would operate on internal power. The test was considered non-hazardous because the the vehicle was not fueled and all pyrotechnic systems were disabled. At 2:45 p.m., the hatch was closed and the cabin was filled with oxygen at 2 psi more than atmospheric pressure. At 6:31 p.m., one of the astronauts yelled “Hey!” or “Fire!.” Two seconds later, Chaffee reported a fire in the cockpit. Seven seconds later, a garbled transmission seemed to say “We’ve got a bad fire — Let’s get out .. We’re burning up.” The last communication ended a little less than 16 seconds after the first report of a fire. The fire caused the pressure inside the capsule to rise to 29 PSI which led the inner wall of the module to rupture and the fire to spread. After the oxygen was consumed, the air from outside caused smoke and carbon monoxide to fill the cabin, but also put out the fire. It took more than five minutes for workers to open the hatch. Inside, with the cabin lights still on, were the bodies of the three astronauts. Grissom was found on the floor of the spacecraft. White was found just inside the hatch, while Chaffee was found in his seat. It took 90 minutes to remove the bodies because of the melted nylon spacesuits fusing to the cabin. White had likely been trying to open the hatch, which was impossible, given the high pressure inside the cabin holding the door shut. It was determined that the fire was likely caused by exposed electrical wiring and a leaky cooling system. This, combined with the pure oxygen atmosphere, flammable materials, an inward-opening hatch and inadequate emergency preparedness contributed to the magnitude of the disaster. Following an investigation, the cabin atmosphere for future launches was changed to 60 percent oxygen and 40 percent nitrogen. The astronaut pressure suits continued to use pure oxygen as a way of preventing decompression sickness or the bends. The suits were redesigned with a non-flammable fabric. The hatch was replaced by an outward opening door and all flammable materials were removed. More than 1,400 wiring problems were also corrected. Grissom and Chaffee were buried at Arlington National Cemetery. White was buried at West Point. Our question: On Apollo 11, the first manned mission to land on the moon, what was the name of the astronaut who remained onboard the command module orbiting the moon? Links Follow us on Twitter, Facebook or our website. Also, if you’re enjoying the show, please consider supporting it through Patreon.com Please rate the show on iTunes by clicking here. Sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Grissom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Higgins_White

The Apollo I launchpad fire that takes the lives of NASA Astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee...On This Day

Hosted by Kimberley Jaeger featuring Sean David Morton interview. http://www.seandavidmorton.com Strange Universe Radio                                             Host: Sean David Morton        http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/programs.html   Sean David Morton had his first visions as a child when he predicted the death of a man that was like a second father to him, astronaut and American hero Command Pilot Virgil I. “Gus” Grissom. Gus, one of the original Mercury Astronauts, thought by many to be picked to be the first man on the moon, was tragically burned alive with fellow astronauts Edward H. White and Roger Chaffee during a routine ground systems check on the Apollo 1 spacecraft. All three men were close family friends.   In 2005, Sean received his PhD. doctorate in Therapeutic Psychology and counseling from the International Institute of Health and Spiritual Sciences in Montreal, Canada. Sean attends a yearly summer school studies program with the Astrological Sciences Institute at Exeter College, at Oxford University. It is taught by leading astrologers in the world, and helps Sean keep up to date on current software, theories and developments in the Astrological field.