Podcast appearances and mentions of Gus Grissom

What can the history of science tell us about the world we live in today and where we might be headed tomorrow? To find out, Dr. Charles Liu and co-host Allen Liu welcome historian of science Rebecca Charbonneau, PhD from the American Institute of Physics and the National Radio Astronomy Observatory with expertise in radio astronomy and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI). This episode kicks off with Allen and Chuck talking about January's Lunar Occultation of Mars. You can see a photo taken by Chuck on our YouTube Community tab. And then it's time for today's joyfully cool cosmic thing: a recent paper in the Astrophysical Journal Letters confirming there are galaxies that were fully formed just 400 million years after The Big Bang. Chuck, who studies galactic evolution, tells us why this changes our understanding of galaxy formation. Rebecca talks about how new ideas can be controversial and how personalities, politics and cultures can impact the evolution of science. She brings up the current controversy in astronomy concerning the locations of terrestrial telescopes and the tension between scientific and cultural imperatives. She also recounts seeing people in Russia wearing NASA t-shirts and explains how NASA understood the importance of controlling the narrative, even inviting Norman Rockwell to popularize the space program. Our first question comes from Pablo P. on Patreon, who asks, “Can humanity be destroyed by AI powered by quantum computing?” Rebecca explains how during the Cold War, scientists on both sides engaged in “science diplomacy” that helped lower tensions. She applies this thinking to AI, pointing out that while a “Terminator-like” scenario is unlikely, public concern is causing the tech world to confront and grapple with real threats from AI like biases in hiring algorithms. Allen, a mathematician who writes about AI professionally, addresses whether AI powered by quantum computing is more dangerous than AI in general. Rebecca shares the terrifying story of a Soviet nuclear submarine and the US navy during the Cuban Missile Crisis that nearly started a nuclear war. The dissenting actions of a single officer named Vasily Arkhipov made the difference, and she wonders if AI would have made the same decision based on the available data. For our next question, we return to our Pablo P. from Patreon for his follow up: “How [do] we answer the question about whether or not we are engaging in self-destructive behavior?” Chuck and Rebecca discuss the confluence of astronomy and the military, and how the history of the SETI program highlights their shared concerns. You'll find out what the Drake Equation has to do with concepts like The Great Filter. Science, she reminds us, is a tool to try to get closer to the truth, but it's not always perfect in pointing out whether what we're doing is safe or potentially self-destructive. Then we turn to Rebecca's other big passion, art history and the window into the human experience that art provides. Charles brings up The Scream by Edvard Munch and the fact that it's actually a depiction of a real atmospheric event. Rebecca talks the use of fractal studies to determine the authenticity of Jackson Pollock art. She also explores the artistic value of scientific artifacts like the controversial plaque attached to Pioneer 10 depicting a naked man and woman, and the interstellar Arecibo Message, sent by Frank Drake in 1974. You'll even hear how Frank worked himself into the message and what that has to do with Albrecht Durer's self-portrait painted in the year 1500. Finally, we turn to what Rebecca's been up to recently. Her new book Mixed Signals came out in January of this year. Keep up with her on her website at and follow her on X @rebecca_charbon and on BlueSky @rebeccacharbon.bsky.social. We hope you enjoy this episode of The LIUniverse, and, if you do, please support us on Patreon. Credits for Images Used in this Episode: A young Milky Way-like galaxy and a background quasar 12 billion and 12.5 billion light-years away, respectively. – Credit: ALMA (ESO/NAOJ/NRAO), M. Neeleman & J. Xavier Prochaska; Keck Observatory Artist's concept of a high red-shift galaxy. – Credit: Alexandra Angelich (NRAO/AUI/NSF) John Young and Gus Grissom are suited for the first Gemini flight March 1965. Norman Rockwell, 1965. – Credit: Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum / Norman Rockwell Edvard Munch, 1893, The Scream. – Credit: Edvard Munch / National Gallery of Norway (Public Domain) Fractal study of Jackson Pollock art. – Credit: “Perceptual and physiological responses to Jackson Pollock's fractals,” R. Taylor, et al, Front. Hum. Neurosci., 21 June 2011. The Arecibo message. – Credit: Creative Commons NASA image of Pioneer 10's famed Pioneer plaque. – Credit: NASA Albrecht Durer self-portrait. – Credit: Albrecht Dürer - Alte Pinakothek (Public Domain)

National chocolate cake day. Holocaust Remembrance day. Entertainment from 1993. Antarctica discovered, Auschwitz & Birkenau concentration camps liberated, Vietnam war officially ended. Todays birthdays - Wolfgang Amedeaus Mozart, Lewis Carroll, Howard McNear, Donna Reed, Bridget Fonda, Tracy Lawrence, Mike Patton, Bailey Zimmerman. Quote by Gus Grissom.Intro - Pour some sugar on me - Def Leppard    http://defleppard.com/Chocolate cake song - Musical PlaygroundI will always love you - Whitney HoustonLook heart  no hands - Randy TravisBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent  https://www.50cent.com/ La Clemenza di Tito Overture - MozartAndy Griffith TV themeIf the good die young - Tracy LawrenceEpic - Faith No MoreRock & a hard place - Bailey ZimmermanExit - Its not love - Dokken    https://www.dokken.net/

Greetings and happy new year. Today we will visit the memorial dedicated to Hoosier astronaut Gus Grissom, located at the entrance of Spring Mill State Park near Mitchell, Indiana. Gus Grissom MemorialFrom the BookSpring Mill State ParkThe Author's WebsiteThe Author on LocalsThe Author on FacebookThe Author on TwitterThe Author on RumbleThe Author on YouTubeThe Author's Amazon Page

This week Kevin Rusnak, Tyler Peterson, and Michael Bazemore drop into talk about the Cold War, daredevils, and the birth of the Space Program.  We have a lot of fun talking about the men and women who made NASA and maybe the coolest movie poster of all time. 

Tonight, my special guest is author Ryan Walters who's here to discuss his book Apollo 1: The Tragedy That Put Us On The Moon.  On January 27, 1967, astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee climbed into a new spacecraft perched atop a large Saturn rocket at Kennedy Space Center in Florida for a routine dress rehearsal of their upcoming launch into orbit, then less than a month away. All three astronauts were experienced pilots and had dreams of one day walking on the moon. But little did they know, nor did anyone else, that once they entered the spacecraft that cold winter day they would never leave it alive. The Apollo program would be perilously close to failure before it ever got off the ground.   But rather than dooming the space program, this tragedy caused the spacecraft to be completely overhauled, creating a stellar flying machine to achieve the program’s primary goal: putting man on the moon.   Apollo 1 is a candid portrayal of the astronauts, the disaster that killed them, and its aftermath. In it, readers will learn:  How the Apollo 1 spacecraft was doomed from the start, with miles of uninsulated wiring and tons of flammable materials in a pure oxygen atmosphere, along with a hatch that wouldn’t open How, due to political pressure, the government contract to build the Apollo 1 craft went to a bidder with an inferior plan How public opinion polls were beginning to turn against the space program before the tragedy and got much worse after    Apollo 1 is about America fulfilling its destiny of man setting foot on the moon. It’s also about the three American heroes who lost their lives in the tragedy, but whose lives were not lost in vain.    Show Us Some Love! Copy and Paste our link in a text message to a friend or family member: https://www.mysteriousradio.com     Follow us on Instagram @mysteriousradio Follow us on TikTok mysteriousradioTikTok Follow us on Twitter @mysteriousradio Follow us on Pinterest pinterest.com/mysteriousradio Like us on Facebook Facebook.com/mysteriousradio   Want All Paranormal Episodes? Follow Our Podcast Paranormal Fears!  Follow Paranormal Fears on Apple Podcasts  Follow Paranormal Fears on Spotify  Follow Paranormal Fears on Google  Follow Paranormal Fears on Amazon Follow Paranormal Fears on Podcast Addict  Follow Paranormal Fears on TuneIn Radio or in your favorite podcast app!

Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 1165, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: What Does It Prevent? 1: Higher-octane gasoline: this "kn"oise, partner of the dreaded pinging. knocking. 2: Bounce dryer sheets, symbolized by a tee shirt and a lightning bolt. static cling. 3: The compound levonorgestrel, in products like Mirena. pregnancy. 4: A living trust: this court procedure to carry out the terms of a will. probate. 5: Ladybugs and lacewings: these garden menaces also known as plant lice. aphids. Round 2. Category: Right Here In River City 1: 38 years before she lost her head, Marie Antoinette was born in this capital on the Danube River. Vienna. 2: Its 3,400-square-mile metropolitan area extends over 8 administrative units known as parishes. New Orleans. 3: Amsterdam is at the junction of the IJ and this river where you can enjoy the same-named beer. Amstel. 4: The area between this city's Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers is called the Golden Triangle. Pittsburgh. 5: 2 steamboats race annually on the Mississippi between St. Louis and this city about 700 miles away. New Orleans. Round 3. Category: So, What Have You Been Up To? 1: A picture of your new dog? Uh, that's this type of canine that's big in LA canyons. Is it in your house?. a coyote. 2: On coach Lionel Scaloni's staff for this team at the 2022 World Cup? I thought I saw you celebrating after the final. Argentina. 3: Wait, you became the leader of this Cabinet department that oversees the Transportation Security Admin.? When was that?!. the Department of Homeland Security. 4: In 2022 you were on the U.S. team that made the first nuclear this reaction resulting in a net energy gain... congrats!. fusion. 5: Becoming fluent in this artificial language constructed by a Polish oculist? Fabela! (Fabulous!). Esperanto. Round 4. Category: The Astronaut Hall Of Fame 1: State in which the Hall of Fame is located. Florida. 2: His historic 1962 orbital flight was marked by drama over a possibly loose heat shield. John Glenn. 3: While others moonwalked, this vehicle was piloted by Michael Collins on Apollo 11 and Ronald Evans on Apollo 17. the command module. 4: The other Mercury astronauts knew him as "Wally". Wally Schirra. 5: This astronaut's sunken Mercury capsule was recovered in 1999. Gus Grissom. Round 5. Category: Oscar Best Picture Partial Marquees 1: The thirdBest-Picture winner. All Quiet on the Western Front. 2: From 1993. Schindler's List. 3: Set in Atlanta. Driving Miss Daisy. 4: Directed by Ron Howard. A Beautiful Mind. 5: A 1971 thriller. The French Connection. Thanks for listening! Come back tomorrow for more exciting trivia!Special thanks to https://blog.feedspot.com/trivia_podcasts/ AI Voices used

fWotD Episode 2531: Mercury Seven Welcome to featured Wiki of the Day where we read the summary of the featured Wikipedia article every day.The featured article for Tuesday, 9 April 2024 is Mercury Seven.The Mercury Seven were the group of seven astronauts selected to fly spacecraft for Project Mercury. They are also referred to as the Original Seven and Astronaut Group 1. Their names were publicly announced by NASA on April 9, 1959; these seven original American astronauts were Scott Carpenter, Gordon Cooper, John Glenn, Gus Grissom, Wally Schirra, Alan Shepard, and Deke Slayton. The Mercury Seven created a new profession in the United States, and established the image of the American astronaut for decades to come.All of the Mercury Seven eventually flew in space. They piloted the six spaceflights of the Mercury program that had an astronaut on board from May 1961 to May 1963, and members of the group flew on all of the NASA human spaceflight programs of the 20th century – Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and the Space Shuttle.Shepard became the first American to enter space in 1961, and walked on the Moon on Apollo 14 in 1971. Grissom flew the first crewed Gemini mission in 1965, but died in 1967 in the Apollo 1 fire; the others all survived past retirement from service. Schirra flew Apollo 7 in 1968, the first crewed Apollo mission, in Grissom's place. Slayton, grounded with an atrial fibrillation, ultimately flew on the Apollo–Soyuz Test Project in 1975. The first American in orbit in 1962, Glenn flew on the Space Shuttle Discovery in 1998 to become, at age 77, the oldest person to fly in space at the time. He was the last living member of the Mercury Seven when he died in 2016 at age 95.This recording reflects the Wikipedia text as of 00:33 UTC on Tuesday, 9 April 2024.For the full current version of the article, see Mercury Seven on Wikipedia.This podcast uses content from Wikipedia under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License.Visit our archives at wikioftheday.com and subscribe to stay updated on new episodes.Follow us on Mastodon at @wikioftheday@masto.ai.Also check out Curmudgeon's Corner, a current events podcast.Until next time, I'm Matthew Neural.

National chocolate cake day. Entertainment from 1960. Antarctica discovered, Auschwitz & Birkenau concentration camps liberated, Vietnam war officially ended. Todays birthdays - Wolfgang Amedeaus Mozart, Lewis Carroll, Howard McNear, Donna Reed, Bridget Fonda, Tracy Lawrence, Mike Patton, Bailey Zimmerman. Quote by Gus Grissom.Intro - Pour some sugar on me - Def Leppard http://defleppard.com/Chocolate cake song - Musical PlaygroundRunning bear - Johnny PrestonEl Paso - Marty RobbinsBirthdays - In da club - 50 CentLa Clemenza di Tito Overture - MozartAndy Griffith TV themeIf the good die young - Tracy LawrenceEpic - Faith No MoreRock & a hard place - Bailey ZimmermanExit - Its not love - Dokken https://cooolmedia.com/

Russell "Rusty" Schweikart grew up with a great interest in aviation and watching the planes fly around Lakehurst Naval Air Station in New Jersey. So it was no surprise when he joined the U.S. Air Force and was trained as a fighter pilot. He later joined the Massachusetts Air National Guard. But in 1963, he was selected as a NASA astronaut and was soon on track to be part of the Apollo program to fulfill President John F. Kennedy's vision of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.In this edition of "Veterans Chronicles, Capt. Schweikart takes us through his days in the Air Force and Air National Guard. He also details the moment in a cafeteria that he decided to pursue becoming an astronaut and the training he went through to prepare for space. Schweikart also walks us through the dark days following the deadly Apollo 1 fire that killed Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee in 1967 and the changes that were made as a result.Finally, Schweikart takes us step by step through his Apollo 9 mission, the testing of the lunar module and Apollo space suits, and the mesmerizing moments of looking back towards Earth during the first-ever Apollo spacewalk.

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Ray Boomhower is one of the Hoosier State's most talented historians. He is also this week's guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Ray serves as the senior editor of the Indiana Historical Society Press and is in demand as an unsurpassed storyteller. His books include biographies of Ernie Pyle, Gus Grissom, and President Benjamin Harrison. Ray was very generous with his time, and we hope you enjoy our interview. Sponsors:Veteran Strategies NFP - A leading insurance broker and consultant Garmong Construction Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies:‘Leaders and Legends' is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Ray Boomhower is one of the Hoosier State's most talented historians. He is also this week's guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Ray serves as the senior editor of the Indiana Historical Society Press and is in demand as an unsurpassed storyteller. His books include biographies of Ernie Pyle, Gus Grissom, and President Benjamin Harrison. Ray was very generous with his time, and we hope you enjoy our interview.Sponsors* Veteran Strategies* NFP -  A leading insurance broker and consultant* Garmong Construction* Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union StationAbout Veteran Strategies‘Leaders and Legends' is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com. Get full access to Indiana Podcasts at www.indianapodcasts.com/subscribe

How confident are you setting up a project and delivering it on time every time? If you struggle in this areas, then this podcast is for you.    You can subscribe to this podcast on: Podbean | Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | TUNEIN   Links: Email Me | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Linkedin The Time Blocking Course The Working With… Weekly Newsletter The Time And Life Mastery Course The FREE Beginners Guide To Building Your Own COD System Carl Pullein Learning Centre Carl's YouTube Channel Carl Pullein Coaching Programmes The Working With… Podcast Previous episodes page   Episode 268 | Script Hello and welcome to episode 268 of the Working With Podcast. A podcast to answer all your questions about productivity, time management, self-development and goal planning. My name is Carl Pullein and I am your host for this show. Completing our personal projects is something we all frequently find difficult. This is largely because there's usually nobody holding us accountable and we don'r have access to the same resources our companies will have. However, it does not have to be difficult if we follow a simple formula.  I've spent many years studying how NASA went from a seemingly impossible challenge to successfully landing Neil Armstrong on the Moon in 1969.  When that project was first floated by President Kennedy in May 1961, NASA lacked the knowledge of whether humans could survive in space, they were struggling to get a rocket off the ground, and the nobody had left the confines of Earth's orbit. Yet, eight years later, Neil Armstrong spoke those infamous words: “That's one small step for man. One giant leap for mankind”. Now it's true that NASA did not have to worry about resources, Congress gave them the money to make this happen. But it was not all about the money. Sure, that helped, but the technology still needed to be invented, scientists had to work out how to get a spaceship out of Earths orbit and into the Moon's orbit and they needed to know if humans could survive in space and if so, how.  I've always been a believer in finding the success stories and then breaking them down to their component parts to understand how the success happened. It's why I know there is no such things as an overnight success, there's much more to completing a project than being in the right place at the right time.  And with the Moon landings, everything is there to show you the roadmap towards completing a project—or a goal for that matter—all we need to do is break it down. And that is what we will do in this episode. So, let me now hand you over to the Mystery Podcast Voice for this week's question. This week's question comes from Jonathan. Jonathan asks, Hi Carl, one thing I really struggle with is working on my personal projects. I have some home improvement projects that I've had on my list for years and I just never seem to get around to doing them. Do you have any tips on getting these projects done?  Hi Jonathan, thank you for your question. Firstly I must start by saying this is something very common and you shouldn't beat yourself up over this, Jonathan. The good news this is an opportunity to develop skills.  Now, let's begin with what I talked about a moment ago with the clarifying sentence. I used to talk about this as the clarifying statement, but somehow the word “statement” invited people to write line after line of words defining what the project was. No. That's not what you are trying to achieve here. What you are looking for is a simple sentence that gives clarity on what you want to accomplish with the project.  Going back to the John F Kennedy sentence setting the parameters of the Moon landing project when he stood before Congress and announced that the US; "should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth."  Twenty-six words that set NASA on a course that captivated the world. Those words were clear, contained a deadline and left no-one in doubt about what was to be achieved. Now, Kennedy was no scientist. He was a student of government and international affairs. Certainly nothing that gave him a deep knowledge of the science and engineering feats required to land and walk on the moon.  But that didn't matter, Kennedy was the leader, not the implementer. There was a reservoir of talented, motivated scientists and engineers ready to take up the “challenge” and turn Kennedy's project outcome into a reality.  Now, depending on the size of the project you are attempting to do, Jonathan, you may need to reach out for the skills you do not process. For instance, one of your home improvement projects could be to build a conservatory onto the side of your house. Now, unless you are a builder, you are not going to have the know-how or skills to build the conservatory—you are going to need to hire outside help. A builder and an electrician are likely to be your first requirements.  Plus, you may need to hire an architect to draw up the plans for you.  So, this means you will need to “secure the funding” for the project. Now, Kennedy assigned this part of the project to his Vice President, Lyndon Johnson, who pushed Congress for the necessary funding.  Now, if I were to undertake building an extension to the side of our house, I would need to “Secure” the funding somehow. That could come from my savings or I may need to talk to the bank for a loan. Either way, because I would need to hire experts to do the work, I would need funds, so before anything started on the project I would need to get some estimates on how much the project would likely cost.  One area where I find people waste time with project planning is to sit down and plan out the whole project step by step. In my experience, I find there's always time to plan the next steps, but planning can and often does become the source of procrastination. There's too many unknowns and if you really want to get the project off the ground take the first logical step.  To write a book, start writing the first draft. Don't worry about publishers, writing applications, chapter headings or book cover designs. Until you have a first draft you are not going to have anything to work with anyway.  Similarly with your home improvement projects, you will need a budget, so get the quotes and estimates together. That will give you the right information to proceed to the next step.  With the Moon landings, NASA broke the project down into three parts. There was Mercury, where they wanted to learn what was required in order to get humans into space. Then came Gemini, where they learned all about rendezvousing with other spacecraft and doing space walks, and finally Apollo, which was the part of the project that took humans to the Moon.  Each part of the lunar landing project had its own set of objectives. Whatever project you are working on, will be the same. The first part could be to secure the funding. The second part may involve hiring the right people to do the work, and finally the construction part. Each part will have its own outcome, but ultimately, the overall project sentence will guide you.  For example, if you want to have the conservatory built by the summer, and you have three months until the summer begins, each part of your project will need to be broken down to meet that deadline. If, when you get the estimates, you are told the builders will require eight weeks to complete the work, then that leaves you with four weeks for the other parts of the project.  When we moved to the East Coast of Korea, my wife and I first sat down to decide how we were would do it. Our initial plan was to spend three months living in a guest house in the area we wanted to move to. These three months confirmed we definitely wanted to proceed with the project and we extended our stay in the guest house until the end of the year.  During that time, we began looking at properties and working on our budget. We decided on our new home in October and as it was still being built, we were given a moving in date on the 20th December. That gave us almost three months to put into action the second phase of our project—which was the interior design and furniture. And then the final part of the project was to move in.  Looking back at my original notes for that project, very little went according to that initial plan. But one thing did not change. The deadline (by the end of the year) and the move itself. The initial action was to move to the area we wanted to live in for three months and we did that within two weeks of making the decision to proceed. After that plans changed, but the outcome did not.  There's always going to be delays, issues to resolve and changing plans. That's to be expected. However, if you have been clear with your project sentence, and you stick to your overall deadline for the project, you will push yourself to get things moving.  And problems and issues will always arise. That's part of life. With the moon landing project, tragedy struck on the 27th January 1967 when during a test on the new Apollo programme (the third phase) a fire broke out in the astronauts cockpit instantly killing the three astronauts. Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffy were killed in the tragic accident and all manned flights were stopped, just three years before the project deadline while a full investigation took place.  NASA, continued developing the programme, as information from the tragedy came through, changes were implemented and by the time the final investigation report came through, almost all its recommendations had been implemented.  Hopefully, nothing as tragic will happen with your projects, but problems and issues will inevitably arise. While you are dealing with those issues, what could you be doing to make sure they the issue does not delay you from your final deadline?  For instance, there could be a materials shortage and there may be a two week delay to receiving some of the materials needed to build your conservatory. What could you do so that when the material is available and delivered you minimise any further delays?  And finally, you need a competitor or villain. For NASA and the United States, the villain and competitor was the Soviet Union. When NASA began the project to land on the Moon, The Soviet Union had already been the first to put a man in space and had launched the first satellite, Sputnik. NASA was still struggling to get a rocket to lift off without exploding.  The introduction of a villain or competitor brings energy to the project. Now, of course, with our personal projects it's unlikely you will have a competitor. However, the reality is you do. The competitor is you.  The reason most of us fail with our personal projects is because of us. We are our own worst enemies. If you want to go deeper, it's comfort that stops you from completing your projects. We naturally don't like change and we always default to our comfort zone. But if you really want to complete these personal projects, whether they are home improvements or buying a new house, you will have to get uncomfortable.  The way I deal with this is, it to turn whatever comfort I am defaulting to into the enemy. At its simplest level that comfort could be the sofa. I never let the sofa beat me. No matter how inviting and seductive the sofa tries to be, I will still go out for a run when it's raining. The sofa will never beat me. That's my mindset. And it's an easy mindset to develop. First identify the comfort, then look at it and tell it that it will never beat you. You will always win. If you find yourself procrastinating, externalise it by writing Procrastination in big words on a piece of paper and stare at it as if it was your worst enemy and tell it it will never ever beat you.  Steve Jobs invoked this strategy. First it was Microsoft and IBM, then it was Intel. With Steve, there was always an enemy to galvanise his employees. Today, Tim Cook does it with Samsung and Android.  Interestingly, because there was a clear competitor and enemy for NASA in the 1960s, their staff were highly motivated and focused on winning. They were making history and that was enough for them to succeed. NASA never needed table football tables (Fuzzball), nap pods, massage rooms or any of the other crazy benefits for their employees. Having a clear outcome, a strategy and a defined enemy was all that was needed to keep their employees focused, happy and engaged.  So there you go, Jonathan. I hope that has helped. I strongly recommend the documentary film Unsung Heroes, The Story Of Mission Control and Tom Hanks film Apollo 13. Both of these films will inspire you and give you everything you need to finally complete all those projects that you are stalling on. Thank you for your question and thank you too for listening. It just remains for me now to wish you all a very very productive week.  

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It should come as no surprise that the Apollo 1 shook up how most everyone felt about the Apollo Program – the government, the media, and the general population – but the group that has the most to lose, NASA, and particularly its astronauts, never wavered in their desire to honor the memories of their fallen colleagues by continuing the mission and getting to the moon. Of course, that doesn't mean that in the months following the fire there wasn't a lot of frustration and concern on their part; but they worked to make sure the negligence shown during Apollo 1 wasn't repeated and that their colleagues were honored and would never be forgotten.The Space Race series introduction is Lift Off by kennysvoice.As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

On January 27, 1967, astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee die in a fire inside Spacecraft 012. Photos: https://www.spaceracehistorypodcast.com/post/episode-52-fire

Join us for part two of our interview with Ray Boomhower about his book, Richard Tregaskis: Reporting under Fire from Guadalcanal to Vietnam. In this special discussion, Mr. Boomhower explains why Tregaskis felt compelled to go to the front, the reasons he felt the burden to tell the story of the soldier in combat, how he saw reporting change during Korea and Vietnam, and more. Ray E. Boomhower is a senior editor at the Indiana Historical Society Press, where he edits the popular history magazine Traces of Indiana and Midwestern History. A former newspaper reporter, Boomhower has written extensively on World War II media history, including biographies of such noted war correspondents as Scripps-Howard columnist Ernie Pyle and Time magazine reporter Robert L. Sherrod. Boomhower has also published biographies of fighter ace Alex Vraciu, war photographer John A. Bushemi, Mercury astronaut Gus Grissom, long-form journalist, and political speechwriter John Bartlow Martin. Richard Tregaskis: Reporting under Fire from Guadalcanal to Vietnam is available wherever books are sold. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/15minutehistory/support

This week we talk about Apollo 1, and how the the program planned to take astronauts to the moon, took three lives instead and  lead some to begin talking about the cancellation of manned spaceflight in the United States all together.The Space Race series introduction is Lift Off by kennysvoice.As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

Join us for part one of our interview with Ray Boomhower about his book, Richard Tregaskis: Reporting under Fire from Guadalcanal to Vietnam. In this special discussion, Mr. Boomhower explains why Tregaskis is considered one of the bravest war correspondents of all time, what compelled him to take the dangerous assignments, breaks down what drove him to go back to the front lines after being severely injured, and more. Ray E. Boomhower is a senior editor at the Indiana Historical Society Press, where he edits the popular history magazine Traces of Indiana and Midwestern History. A former newspaper reporter, Boomhower has written extensively on World War II media history, including biographies of such noted war correspondents as Scripps-Howard columnist Ernie Pyle and Time magazine reporter Robert L. Sherrod. Boomhower has also published biographies of fighter ace Alex Vraciu, war photographer John A. Bushemi, Mercury astronaut Gus Grissom, long-form journalist, and political speechwriter John Bartlow Martin. Richard Tregaskis: Reporting under Fire from Guadalcanal to Vietnam is available wherever books are sold. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/15minutehistory/support

This week we being to see the US space program come into its own and really begin surpassing its Soviet rival. With the Gemini 3 mission, the US proves that it can manually maneuver a capsule in space and with Gemini 4, it shows that like Soviet cosmonauts, US astronauts can also spacewalk - and the US spacewalk was twice as long as the Soviet's.The Space Race series introduction is Lift Off by kennysvoice.As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

What do astronauts eat in space?  Justin tells Jack all about the sandwich that was smuggled onto Gemini III by astronaut John Young. But where did he get it? What was on it? And what did NASA think of the whole affair? ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF COUNTRY: Mates in Space is made on Kaurna, Gadigal and Wurundjeri Country, never ceded. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging. We also pay respect to other First Nation peoples. ABOUT US: Mates in Space is a podcast about how we're going to get to space without taking all of Earth's bulls**t up with us! Each week, your hosts Jack and Justin will tell a different space story, in preparation for Australia's exciting new future among the stars. It's a bit nerdy, a bit sciency, and a lot of fun. Mates in Space is brought to you by Ampel Audio, Jack Eaton and Justin McArthur. For more info, check out our website at http://matesin.space SOCIAL LINKS: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matesinspace Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/matesinspace Twitter: https://twitter.com/MatesInSpace TikTok, for some reason: https://www.tiktok.com/@matesinspace SOURCES: - Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, 'Pepsi-Cola Can, STS 51-F': https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/pepsi-cola-can-sts-51-f/nasm_A19850812000  - Atlas Obscura (2018) ‘Remembering the Astronaut Who Smuggled a Sandwich Into Space': https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/john-young-corned-beef-sandwich-nasa-space - NASA biography of Gus Grissom (2006): https://history.nasa.gov/Apollo204/zorn/grissom.htm - BC Hacker and JM Grimwood (1977) On the Shoulders of Titans: A History of Project Gemini: https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4203.pdf - NASA, ‘Chile Peppers Start Spicing Up the Space Station' (2017) https://www.nasa.gov/feature/chile-peppers-start-spicing-up-the-space-station/ - The Simpsons, season 5 episode 15 'Deep Space Homer' (1994). ALT TITLE: Careful, They're Ruffled!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, JFK meets with the Mercury Seven at the White House to honor Alan Shepard, specifically, and the entire team, generally, for all they have done to get America in space. Acting to build on what he knew would be short-lived momentum after Freedom 7's flight, Kennedy addresses congress and the American public about the importance of the space race, despite what would be tremendous cost. He then asked Congress to find the program and the American taxpayer to foot the bill.Gus Grissom becomes the second American in space, but unlike Alan Shepard, he is not paraded in front of cameras at the White House after his flight. His mission was just about perfect until the landing. Let's just say his capsule, Liberty Bell 7, would be lost of 38 years. That may or may not have been Grissom's fault, but no one really wanted to think about that at the moment.Oh yeah, and then Russia sends another cosmonaut into space and unlike the two Americans who each spent about 15 minutes in space, he stays up for nearly 25 hours! Soviet scientists are once again laughing at the US space program.The Space Race series introduction is Lift Off by kennysvoice.As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

Na vida, há certas ocasiões que ficam na memória para sempre. O nome de John Glenn é um daqueles que trazem lembranças de um momento marcante da nossa história. Muitos da geração mais velha de hoje podem se lembrar de assistir televisão, seja em casa ou na frente de uma loja, em estado de fascínio quase total enquanto o homem conquistava uma de suas últimas barreiras – o espaço. John Glenn era um astronauta da NASA. Ele fez parte do primeiro grupo de astronautas que a NASA escolheu. Ele foi o primeiro americano a orbitar a Terra. Ele também se tornou um senador dos EUA. Mais tarde, ele se tornou a pessoa mais velha a voar no espaço. Vivendo na geração baby boomer, Glenn sempre parecia estar por perto. Em 1957, ele estabeleceu o recorde de velocidade transcontinental em um voo de Los Angeles a Nova York, completando a viagem em três horas e 23 minutos. Em 1959, Glenn assumiu um novo desafio quando foi selecionado para o Programa Espacial dos EUA. Ele e outros seis, incluindo Gus Grissom e Alan Shepard, passaram por um treinamento rigoroso e ficaram conhecidos como "Mercury 7". Na época, os Estados Unidos estavam presos em uma “corrida espacial” acalorada com a União Soviética sobre os avanços na tecnologia e pesquisa espaciais. Cinco anos depois, em 20 de fevereiro de 1962, Glenn se tornou o primeiro americano a orbitar a Terra. Ele nomeou sua nave espacial Friendship 7 e fez três órbitas ao redor da Terra. Sua missão mostrou que a espaçonave Mercury funcionava no espaço. A missão também ajudou a NASA a aprender mais sobre estar no espaço. Foi uma nação ansiosa que assistiu e ouviu naquela manhã de fevereiro, quando Glenn, de 40 anos, subiu na Friendship 7, uma minúscula cápsula Mercury no topo de um foguete Atlas subindo das planícies de concreto do Cabo Canaveral, na Flórida. A Guerra Fria há muito alimentava temores de destruição nuclear, e os russos pareciam estar vencendo a disputa com sua inquietante ascensão ao espaço sideral. Dois russos, Yuri Gagarin e Gherman Titov, já haviam orbitado a Terra no ano anterior, ofuscando os feitos dos americanos Alan Shepard e Virgil Grissom, que haviam sido lançados apenas para as margens do espaço. O que, as pessoas perguntavam com crescente urgência, havia acontecido com a tecnologia e o espírito de poder dos Estados Unidos? A resposta veio às 9h47, horário do leste, quando, após semanas de atrasos, o foguete decolou. As três órbitas foram apenas um voo curto, mas quando Glenn estava de volta em segurança, lançando ao mundo um sorriso triunfante, as dúvidas foram substituídas por uma ampla e nova fé de que os Estados Unidos poderiam de fato se defender contra a União Soviética na Guerra Fria e algum dia prevalecer. O Friendship 7 foi carregado por um veículo de lançamento Atlas LV-3B decolando do Complexo de Lançamento 14 em Cabo Canaveral. Após quatro horas e 56 minutos de voo, a espaçonave reentrou na atmosfera da Terra, caiu no Oceano Atlântico Norte e foi levada com segurança a bordo do USS Noa. Mas esta jornada histórica não foi sem algumas falhas. Na sala de controle, os funcionários da NASA ficaram preocupados com o fato de o escudo térmico de Glenn não estar firmemente preso à espaçonave. Glenn fez alguns ajustes e conseguiu fazer um pouso seguro. “Achei a ausência de peso extremamente agradável”, foi seu comentário sobre estar no espaço. Diz a lenda que o presidente Kennedy ordenou que ele não fosse enviado novamente por medo de perder um tesouro nacional. Depois de se aposentar do programa espacial, ele teve uma carreira empresarial de sucesso. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/malhete-podcast/message

The second and third years for the US space program were not much better than the first and the United States found itself playing catch up to the Soviets.  To make matters worse, the Mercury Seven began dividing up into factions, a scandal threatened the astronauts' place in Project Mercury, and when John F. Kennedy, who had spent approximately zero percent of his life contemplating space and the US role in it was elected president, NASA had no idea what to expect next.For the duration of the series about the space race, Lift Off by kennysvoice will be used as the show intro. As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

Jumping head first into the space race, this week sporadically covers the history of the interest in space over the last 3000 years or so and ends with the early days of the Cold War space race. The  Soviet Union jumps out to an early lead and leaves the United States reeling to catch up. NASA is created and introduces its first class of astronauts, hoping one of whom will become the first human in space.As always, a very special thanks to Mountain Up Cap Company for its continued help to spread the word about the podcast on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MountainUpCapCompany Climb to Glory!For more information about the podcast visit: ·       The GoA website: https://www.ghostsofarlingtonpodcast.com    ·       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ghostsofarlingtonpodcast·       Twitter: https://twitter.com/ArlingtonGhosts·       Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ghostsofarlington/

================================================== ==SUSCRIBETEhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNpffyr-7_zP1x1lS89ByaQ?sub_confirmation=1================================================== == DEVOCIÓN MATUTINA PARA ADOLESCENTES 2022“UN SALTO EN EL TIEMPO”Narrado por: DORIANY SÁNCHEZDesde: PERÚUna cortesía de DR'Ministries y Canaan Seventh-Day Adventist Church  09 DE ABRILPRESENTACIÓN DE LOS PRIMEROS ASTRONAUTAS«En medio del cielo vi volar otro ángel que tenía el evangelio eterno para predicarlo a los habitantes de la tierra, a toda nación, tribu, lengua y pueblo» (Apocalipsis 14:6, RV95).Cuando terminó la Segunda Guerra Mundial, el mundo era un lugar muy inestable. Millones de personas habian muerto, y paises que habian existido ya ni siquiera aparecio en el mapa. Todo el mundo había pensado que, como la guerra había terminado, la vida volvería a la normalidad; pero no fue así.El miedo que inspiraba a las naciones a luchar unas contra otras sequía vivo. Una de las peores cosas que surgieron de la Segunda Guerra Mundial fue la carrera por las armas nucleares. Hoy la recordamos como la Guerra Fría, porque aunque los Estados Unidos y la Unión Soviética habían sido aliados durante la Segunda Guerra Mundial, se claramente entonces en enemigos. Estados Unidos había desarrollado la primera bomba nuclear, y la URSS no se quedó atrás. Luego, esta competencia armamentística por el poder se dañará a la carrera por el espacio.En 1957 la URSS anunció que había lanzado un satélite al espacio. Esta noticia hizo que el gobierno de los Estados Unidos invirtiera todos los dólares que pudo en un programa espacial, y el 9 de abril de 1959, la NASA anunció que iba a enviar a los primeros astronautas al espacio. El primer equipo en ir era de pilotos operando militares: Scott Carpenter, Gordon Cooper, John Glenn, Gus Grissom, Walter Schirra, Alan Shepard y Donald Slayton.Hoy en día, la Guerra Fría ha terminado, pero mientras Satanás esté presente, la guerra entre el bien y el mal persistirá. A Satanás nada le gustaría más que ver a las naciones enfrentadas entre sí. Pero Dios nos ha encargado que llevemos un mensaje muy especial al mundo: el mensaje de los tres ángeles del Apocalipsis, un mensaje de esperanza y paz para este planeta.Dios ganó la Guerra Fría entre Cristo y Satanás cuando Jesús murió en el Calvario, y hoy es nuestra obra llevar ese mensaje al mundo. Jesús vendrá pronto, y cuando venga, los que hemos compartido el mensaje de los tres ángeles daremos otro paseo por el espacio, solo que no necesitaremos ir en un cohete ni llevar trajes espaciales. Volaremos como los tres ángeles.

TODAY WE ARE ALL THAT IS NERD!!! Why, you ask? Because we got the chance to talk to Mimi Meredith from the Cosmosphere in Hutchinson KS…and, because we love all things astronaut/space…AND because they're bringing Gus Grissom's Liberty Bell 7 capsule to Planet ComiCon in a couple of weeks…it's was time to nerd the f**k out!! And, we might just love Mimi more than a little because she was even more excited about it than we are!!! PLUS… Imagine this pitch to television producers: “We have an idea for a show…it's like Honey Boo Boo, except with pigs!!” AND SOMEONE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT IDEA!! Well folks, this is what we've become as a television viewing audience, because the show “Pig Royalty” exists. And today we talked to one of the stars, Michelle Balero, aka Barn Bitch #1 all about pigs, pig shows and the eventual tasty treats those pigs become!!

TODAY WE ARE ALL THAT IS NERD!!! Why, you ask? Because we got the chance to talk to Mimi Meredith from the Cosmosphere in Hutchinson KS…and, because we love all things astronaut/space…AND because they're bringing Gus Grissom's Liberty Bell 7 capsule to Planet ComiCon in a couple of weeks…it's was time to nerd the f**k out!! And, we might just love Mimi more than a little because she was even more excited about it than we are!!

It's been 60 years since a native Hoosier became the second American to go up in space. His journey, which began amid much excitement in 1961, concluded in a disappointing manner. But Gus Grissom - one of the original seven U.S. astronauts selected by NASA- went on to success after the Liberty Bell 7 mission, becoming the first American to travel in space twice. He also encountered tragedy, perishing in January 1967 during one of the worst accidents of the space program.

Be sure to subscribe to the Cosmosphere Podcast and you'll never miss an episode. Learn more about Liberty Bell 7 and the Cosmosphere (https://cosmo.org/blog/view/liberty-bell-7-the-peril-and-promise-of-space-exploration) You can see all of the upcoming events and more by checking the Cosmosphere calendar. Cosmosphere Calendar (http://cosmo.org/news-and-events/calendar) You can contact the Cosmosphere's Box office at 620-665-9312 for upcoming events.

Join Cosmosphere CEO Jim Remar for a discussion of Liberty Bell 7 and the recovery of this historic spacecraft. Be sure to subscribe to the Cosmosphere Podcast and you'll never miss an episode. Learn more about Liberty Bell 7 and the Cosmosphere (https://cosmo.org/blog/view/liberty-bell-7-the-peril-and-promise-of-space-exploration) You can see all of the upcoming events and more by checking the Cosmosphere calendar. Cosmosphere Calendar (http://cosmo.org/news-and-events/calendar) You can contact the Cosmosphere's Box office at 620-665-9312 for upcoming events.

Bonus: The Mercury Seven were seven astronauts selected to fly spacecraft for Project Mercury. They are also referred to as the Original Seven and Astronaut Group 1. Their names were publicly announced by NASA on April 9, 1959. These seven original American astronauts were Scott Carpenter, Gordon Cooper, John Glenn, Gus Grissom, Wally Schirra, Alan Shepard, and Deke Slayton. The Mercury Seven created a new profession in the United States and established the image of the American astronaut for decades to come.

Considered by his contemporaries as “the bravest of the brave war correspondents” of World War II, journalist and author Richard Tregaskis risked his life on countless occasions to bring the brutal realities of combat to light for Americans on the home front. Tregaskis was a firsthand witness to such major combat operations of the war as the Doolittle Raid, the Battle of Midway, Guadalcanal, the invasion of Sicily and Italy, fighting in France and Germany, and B-29 bombing missions over Japan. He did all of this while suffering from a potentially fatal illness, diabetes. Although the tall, gangly reporter had been lucky to escape from Guadalcanal unharmed, producing the classic Guadalcanal Diary in the process, his luck ran out on a hill in Italy. Shrapnel from a German shell pierced Tregaskis's helmet, leaving him gravely wounded. He spent the next several months re-learning how to speak by reciting poetry, returning to action with a metal plate in his head covering a hole in his skull. Tregaskis eventually returned to the Pacific on a B-29 bomber, following its crew into battle for a series of articles he wrote for the Saturday Evening Post. In accepting his assignment, Tregaskis, when asked by his editor if he really wanted to go, responded, “I don't want to, but I think I ought to go.” According to the Post, “ought to go” had been Tregaskis's first commandment “ever since he began chasing the war, three months after Pearl Harbor.” Author/ex-journalist Ray Boomhower's riveting new biography of war correspondent Richard Tregaskis embeds the reader in the battles that Tregaskis covered. Tregaskis was the eyes and voice of the “everyman” soldier, sailor, aviator, and marine to the world. Boomhower's wellrounded presentation of the author of Guadalcanal Diary, Invasion Diary, Vietnam Diary, and many other best sellers of the time presents a portrait of a man of courage, sensitivity, and intensity, while very much human and flawed. Tregaskis later reported on Cold War conflicts in China, Korea, and Vietnam. In 1964 the Overseas Press Club recognized his first-person reporting under hazardous circumstances by awarding him its George Polk Award for his book Vietnam Diary. Boomhower's book is the first to tell Tregaskis's gripping life story, concentrating on his intrepid reporting experiences during various wars, and his fascination with combat and its effect on the men who fought it. About the author: Ray E. Boomhower is senior editor at the Indiana Historical Society Press, where he edits the popular history magazine Traces of Indiana and Midwestern History. A former newspaper reporter, Boomhower has written extensively on World War II media history, including biographies of such noted war correspondents as Scripps-Howard columnist Ernie Pyle and Time magazine reporter Robert L. Sherrod. Boomhower has also published biographies of fighter ace Alex Vraciu, war photographer John A. Bushemi, Mercury astronaut Gus Grissom, longform journalist and political speechwriter John Bartlow Martin. Boomhower received the Hoosier Historian award from the Indiana Historical Society and has won the 2009 Best Books of Indiana sponsored by the Indiana Center for the Book. He was a finalist in the annual Benjamin Franklin Awards from the Independent Book Publishers Association. In 2010 he was named as the winner of the Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana Authors Award in the regional category.

Tonight, my special guest is author Ryan Walters who's here to discuss his book Apollo 1: The Tragedy That Put Us On The Moon. On January 27, 1967, astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee climbed into a new spacecraft perched atop a large Saturn rocket at Kennedy Space Center in Florida for a routine dress rehearsal of their upcoming launch into orbit, then less than a month away. All three astronauts were experienced pilots and had dreams of one day walking on the moon. But little did they know, nor did anyone else, that once they entered the spacecraft that cold winter day they would never leave it alive. The Apollo program would be perilously close to failure before it ever got off the ground. But rather than dooming the space program, this tragedy caused the spacecraft to be completely overhauled, creating a stellar flying machine to achieve the program's primary goal: putting man on the moon. Apollo 1 is a candid portrayal of the astronauts, the disaster that killed them, and its aftermath. In it, readers will learn: How the Apollo 1 spacecraft was doomed from the start, with miles of uninsulated wiring and tons of flammable materials in a pure oxygen atmosphere, along with a hatch that wouldn't open How, due to political pressure, the government contract to build the Apollo 1 craft went to a bidder with an inferior plan How public opinion polls were beginning to turn against the space program before the tragedy and got much worse after Apollo 1 is about America fulfilling its destiny of man setting foot on the moon. It's also about the three American heroes who lost their lives in the tragedy, but whose lives were not lost in vain. Wanna get creeped out? Follow our new podcast 'Paranormal Fears' on any podcast app or Apple Podcasts. Listen AD-FREE by subscribing to our channel on Apple Podcasts! On all other apps you can enjoy AD-FREE listening here https://mysteriousradio.supercast.com/ Share your thoughts and opinions! Join our new group chat on Telegram - https://t.me/mysteriousradio Visit our home on the web: https://www.mysteriousradio.com Follow us on Instagram @mysteriousradio Follow us on TikTok mysteriousradioTikTok Follow us on Twitter @mysteriousradio Follow us on Pinterest pinterest.com/mysteriousradio Like us on Facebook Facebook.com/mysteriousradio Check Out Mysterious Radio! (copy the link to share with your friends and family via text) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Témánk a Liberty Bell 7 hatvan évvel ezelőtti űrrepülése, az óceánba veszett űrkabin rejtélye és Gus Grissom űrhajós tragikus pályafutása.

“ We've got a fire in the cockpit!” That was the cry heard over the radio on January 27, 1967, after astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee climbed into a new spacecraft perched atop a large Saturn rocket at Kennedy Space Center in Florida for a routine dress rehearsal of their upcoming launch into orbit, then less than a month away. All three astronauts were experienced pilots and had dreams of walking on the moon one day. Little did they or anyone else know, once they entered the spacecraft that cold winter day, they would never leave it alive. The Apollo program would come perilously close to failure before it ever got off the ground. But rather than dooming the space program, this tragedy led to the complete overhaul of the spacecraft, creating a stellar flying machine capable of achieving the program's primary goal: putting a man on the moon. Today's guest is Ryan Walters, author of “Apollo 1: The Tragedy That Put Us on the Moon. We discuss: •How the flawed design of the Apollo 1 spacecraft—miles of uninsulated wiring, an excess of flammable material in a pure oxygen atmosphere, and an unwieldy, three-piece hatch—doomed it from the start •• How NASA awarded the multi-billion-dollar contract to build the Apollo 1 craft to a bidder with an inferior plan and management due to political pressure •• How NASA's damaged reputation and growing opposition to spending on space exploration almost led Congress to shut down the space program after the Apollo 1 fire

On July 21, 1828, the Rev. John Johns, rector of All Saints Episcopal Church in Frederick, tendered his resignation to accept a call to Christ Church, Baltimore. On July 21, 1861, Calvin Lamar, of Adamstown, was shot and killed by Samuel Webster, a Union soldier, during a quarrel over the use of a railroad handcar. On July 21, 1863, General George G. Meade's Union troops crossed the Potomac River at Berlin (Brunswick) on a pontoon bridge. On July 21, 1979, Dr. A. Austin Pearre, prominent local physician and among the founders of the county's Heart Association, died at his home on Upper College Terrace in Frederick. He was born February 1, 1899. Today in 1865, Wild Bill Hickok shot and killed Davis Tutt in the market square of Springfield, Missouri. The incident is regarded as the first true western showdown Today in 1925, John Scopes was found guilty and fined $100 in Dayton, Tennessee, for teaching Darwin's Theory of Evolution in a public school. The conviction was later reversed. In 1960, the film "Inherit the Wind,” which was based on the Scopes trial, premiered in Dayton, Tennessee. It starred Spencer Tracy, Frederic March and Gene Kelly. Today in 1972, George Carlin was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct for using profanity onstage during a show in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Today in 1979, the National Women's Hall of Fame, honoring the women important to America's history, was dedicated. Today in 1980, draft registration began in the United States for 19 and 20-year-old men. Today in 1992, murder charges against Dr. Jack Kevorkian were dropped in Pontiac, Michigan. He was accused of helping four chronically ill women commit suicide with a machine he built that dispensed lethal gas and drugs. Today in 1996, at the Atlanta Olympics, swimmer Tom Dolan gave the United States its first Gold Medal in the 400-meter individual medley. The men's 800-meter freestyle relay team also won. Today in 1999, Navy divers found the bodies of John F. Kennedy Jr., his wife, Carolyn, and sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette, in the wreckage of Kennedy's plane in the Atlantic Ocean off Martha's Vineyard. Today in 1999, after spending 38 years at the bottom of the Atlantic, astronaut Gus Grissom's "Liberty Bell Seven" capsule was lifted to the surface. Today in 2011, NASA's Space Shuttle program ended with the landing of Space Shuttle Atlantis on mission STS-135. Today in 2017, Justin Bieber was barred from performing in China by the Beijing Municipal Bureau of Culture citing his "bad behavior." Today in 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer resigned after opposing appointment of Anthony Scaramucci as White House Director of Communications. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we're joined by Jim Remar, CEO of the Cosmophere in Hutchinson, Kansas, the home of Liberty Bell 7, to celebrate the 60th anniversary of it's flight carrying Gus Grissom into space. A truly remarkable story, not just because of the mission being just the 3rd crewed launch of any vehicle into space, but because the capsule was lost at the bottom of the sea until 1999 when it was recovered and restored by the people at the Cosmophere. The Cosmosphere: https://cosmo.org/Liberty Bell 60th Anniversary: https://cosmosphere.lpages.co/liberty-bell-7/Spaceworks: https://spaceworkscosmo.org/Twitter: https://twitter.com/the_cosmosphereFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/kscosmosphereInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_cosmosphere/Full show notes and associated videos: https://spaceandthingspodcast.com/podcast/bnmcddpabge6669-2tylp-j3gk9-fk47l-dz7ae-jc6ft-7rn3l-8ew42-jf2mt-yfsp6Image Credits: The CosmosphereSpace and Things:Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/spaceandthings1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spaceandthingspodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/spaceandthingspodcast/Merch and Info: https://www.spaceandthingspodcast.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/SpaceandthingsBusiness Enquiries: info@andthingsproductions.comSpace and Things is brought to you And Things Productions https://www.andthingsproductions.comSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/spaceandthings. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Come gather around the campfire and let me tell you about the Perilous Fate of the American Space Pioneers. Last episode covered the accidents and tragedies of the early Soviet space program, our rivals in the space race and partners in space exploration today. This episode is going to cover the disasters of the American Space program. What would have happened if Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin got stuck on the moon?  How did the Apollo 1 fire start? Who was the first American casualty of the space race?  Did NASA know Challenger was going to explode? Who was Christa McAuliffe? Could the Columbia disaster have been avoided? Let's talk about it. **This episode includes sensitive content including real audio and graphic descriptions of deadly accidents. Listener discretion is advised.**Make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Check out our links here to support the show, follow our social media, and see photos from the case: https://linktr.ee/CampfireStoriesPodcastYou can contact me at campfirestoriesbusiness@gmail.com. Also check out our YouTube channel Campfire Stories: Astonishing History. Sources for every episode are available in the episode transcript on Buzzsprout.Music by: Zoliborz Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/CampfireStories)

John Glenn. Alan Shepard. Scott Carpenter. Gordon Cooper. Gus Grissom. Deke Slayton. Wally Schirra. These are the names of the members of the Mercury Seven— America's first astronauts, charged with the task of being the human faces of a massive collective effort to beat the Soviet Union in a race to space. And, of course, charged with the task of actually manning the rockets that could take them higher than man had ever flown before.  The Soviets Union had their own astronauts, or more accurately, cosmonauts.  Their story, especially the most famous among them, Yuri Gargarin, is fascinating, in part, because their story has many parallels to our own American astronaut program, but also because of the differences.  Some subtle, some glaring.  The differences make their story poignant, something to be understood and appreciated, if only to understand what is true about the human condition. Listen to learn more aboutEarly space projects in the United States and the Soviet Union, including Sputnik, Mercury, and Vostok and key leaders like Sergei Korolev.The life of Yuri Gargarin, including his childhood in Klushino, his education, interest in flight, recruitment and training as a cosmonaut.The first non-humans in space, including Albert I, Albert II from the United States plus the Soviet space dogs, Tsygan, Dezik and the most famous Laika.The launch of Vostok 1 and Yuri Gargarin's mission.  Insights about his instant global celebrity, his fall from Soviet grace and his controversial death in a flying accident.The full show notes can be found at https://www.mydarkpath.com/season1episode7

Apollo 1, initially designated AS-204, was the first crewed mission of the United States Apollo program, the undertaking to land the first man on the Moon. It was planned to launch on February 21, 1967, as the first low Earth orbital test of the Apollo command and service module. The mission never flew; a cabin fire during a launch rehearsal test at Cape Kennedy Air Force Station Launch Complex 34 on January 27 killed all three crew members—Command Pilot Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom, Senior Pilot Ed White, and Pilot Roger B. Chaffee—and destroyed the command module (CM). The name Apollo 1, chosen by the crew, was made official by NASA in their honor after the fire. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/art-mcdermott/support

The Right Stuff launches our scoring into the stratosphere along with the Mercury 7, and our conversation orbits our late grandfathers, poppy-fields movies, witty takedowns of bureaucracy, Mrs. Grissom agonistes, flaming wienies, when critics willfully miss the point, and actors playing non-actors who are bad at acting. This is the best and the Quaidiest film we've contemplated yet, so supply your own helmets and have a listen. Overall score: 9 QQQ score: 9 SHOW NOTES Want to help defray the costs of the pod, like getting a print of that Baretta episode made? Throw a few bucks in the hat at QIF's GoFundMe page (https://t.co/MItcWMHOPU?amp=1)! If we're not going to hear The Dennissance (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dennissance/id1503394153), one of y'all should Pauline Kael's review (https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/2020/07/05/the-right-stuff-review-pauline-kael/) of The Right Stuff Vanity Fair's oral history of TRS (https://www.wired.com/2014/11/oral-history-of-right-stuff/)

Join us in this next episode as we discover the legacy of a First Nation's artist, Daphne Odjig, discuss AEK Athens Football Club, learn the amazing achievements of NASA astronaut Gus Grissom, travel to a picturesque Switzerland valley, and finish the episode learning about a fungus!

It was September 12, 1962, when Pres. John F. Kennedy delivered a speech at Rice University before nearly 50,000 people. By that time, America had launched but four men into space—the suborbital flights of Alan Shepard and Gus Grissom and the nearly identical three-orbit journeys of John Glenn and Scott Carpenter. Buoyed by the success of those missions and cognizant of the danger that lay ahead, the president rearticulated his vision and reissued his challenge to reach the moon before 1970. "We choose to go to the moon, in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills." The assassination of President Kennedy, in the words of flight director Gene Kranz, turned his vision into a "quest to do it and do it in the time frame he allotted." On July 20, 1969, Neil Armstrong stepped off the ladder of the lunar module known as Eagle, taking "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

Gus Grissom was an American fighter pilot and one of the original "Astronauts" for the early days of NASA. Enjoy this legit one of a kind story that is criminally under told. LP calls up via skype in the bonus content to talk about the "30 Million Dollar Sandwich".

news birthdays/events at what age (if ever) do you stop making a big deal about birthdays...and are you making a big deal if you're having a "quarantine" b-day drive thru for lonely people news famous fictional houses you'd like to be on lockdown in mark hamill says goodbye to star wars ashley and brad play "guess that sound effect" news what you need to know about wearing your face masks in public would you hire a virtual babysitter how to exercise more patience...(ashley!) news coronavirus jewelry...too soon? besides the people in your house...who are you talking to the most (via zoom or skype) goodbye/fun facts...1959 - NASA announced the selection of America's first seven astronauts for Project Mercury. They were Scott Carpenter, Gordon Cooper, John Glenn, Gus Grissom, Wally Schirra, Alan Shepard and Donald Slayton - the "Mercury Seven"... They piloted the six spaceflights of the Mercury program..they had very specific criteria...Less than 40 years old; Less than 5 feet 11 inches tall; In excellent physical condition; With a bachelor's degree or equivalent; A graduate of test pilot school; With a minimum of 1,500 hours total flying time; and A qualified jet pilot and they were givnen annual salary of $8,330 to $12,770 depending on their level of education

New "Kahnversations" Podcast with Actor  Joel Johnstone! Joel currently recurs on Amazon’s Emmy Award-winning comedy series, THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL. In its first three seasons, “Maisel” has won a myriad of awards, including best comedy series at the Emmys, Golden Globes, Producers Guild, Writers Guild, Critic’s Choice Awards, Peabody Awards and many more. Joel plays Archie Cleary, best friend, voice of reason, and loyal drinking pal to Joel Maisel (Michael Zegen). Most recently, Joel won a SAG Award as part of the Best Television Comedy Ensemble. In addition to "Maisel", Joel recently made guest appearances on Fox’s THE RESIDENT, L.A.'s FINEST and will be seen next month on NBC's new drama series COUNCIL OF DADS. Other television credits include playing famed astronaut Gus Grissom in the ABC mini series THE ASTRONAUT WIVES CLUB.  Among a multitude of other guest star work, he’s also had memorable recurring roles on several HBO series, THE NEWSROOM and GETTING ON.  Film credits include the Disney film adaption of ALEXANDER AND THE TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, NO GOOD, VERY BAD DAY alongside Steve Carrell, DELIVERANCE CREEK, alongside Lauren Ambrose, and THE WEDDING PARTY—the indie-comedy that recently created buzz for it’s 112-minute continuous shot. Joel was born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin where he discovered acting at a young age. In high school, he enrolled in summer acting programs at both Northwestern University and The Steppenwolf Theatre. At the age of 18, Joel moved to New York City and earned his BA in theatre from Fordham University at Lincoln Center. He also studied abroad at the British American Drama Academy, partaking in both programs at Oxford University and London. Joel has also written and directed his own short film, THE PILGRIM & THE PRIVATE EYE, which played the festival circuit from 2012-2013 and won multiple awards. You can download or subscribe to our podcast for FREE by clicking below. If you like “Kahnversations,” please leave a rating or review on our iTunes page!   Click Here To Listen! There are so many inspiring podcasts with fabulous stars out there. But their careers feel light years away from ours, don’t they? Wouldn’t it be great to hear from the guy who just booked his first pilot? Or the kid finally doing a studio pic after a bunch of low budget indies? Or the woman who’s been a series regular a few times but is only now becoming a name? What about the guy who’s been on a show for years and you know his face but what’shisnameagain? Or that actress who is now a freakin’ showrunner???? How’d THEY do it, right? How did they transition from relative obscurity, bartending and bottle service, to buying that house in Brentwood? We’re producing “Kahnversations,” a podcast that provides access to THOSE people -- your immediate predecessors -- so that you can learn from them while their battle scars are still fresh. In “Kahnversations,” our own Ryan Bailey interviews some of Lesly Kahn & Company’s working actors, directors, and writers in order to learn how they got started in Hollywood, the challenges and hurdles they faced, and how they overcame the odds. (They also dish out some crazy stories!) Listen in and enjoy as these entertainers speak candidly about their paths, processes, and experiences. You might even hear a bit about how Lesly and the Kahnstitute have influenced and shaped their careers.

Jon from Yours, Mine and Theirs is back to talk Diamonds are Forever. He also has a new podcast where he reads audiobooks that don’t exist called Safe Words Aloud (Apple link—other links below). What if Bert Reynolds or Adam West had been Bond? Sean Connery got PAID. Should we watch Zardoz? Go to the Facebook group and vote for it you want it. Vegas in its 60’s glory. Jimmy Dean. Bambi and Thumper. Howard Hughes. Charles Grey – the best Blofeld? Also the worst and dumbest Blofeld. Overly complicated diamond smuggling plot. Helicopter quota? SLOW car chase. Chris Elliot – Get a Life. Chris Elliot Cinematic Universe. Shirley Bassey and the theme song. Kidd and Wint are definitely gay. Thanks, I hate them! Dune buggy escape. Our best astronaut actors. Did you know Bryan Cranston played Gus Grissom? Jumping the shark. Is Blofeld a good guy? How did we forget Tiffany Case? Bad gadgets. Blofeld in drag. Is this movie braless? Saying goodbye to Connery. Has the franchise never really set up Blofeld properly? Yours Mine and Theirs is getting weird with their newest poll on concert movies - go vote. https://safewordsaloud.blogspot.com/ Youtube playlist of Jon reading latest book. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/kissyourfranchisegoodbye/message

Space travel... yup.. that is what we are talking about in this episode! Feel free to ping us on social media with your thoughts on this episode or any of our others - Follow us on twitter at https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow.  Bob 0:00 You think I'd get this right eventually? Yeah, Kevin 0:03 well, yeah. So, yeah. So what he's talking about is we try to sync up our audio because we're still about 1050 miles apart. So we do this, like seance and ritual. And we hit the button at the same time. Bob 0:13 And you know what? Bear in mind, this is Episode 64. So we've been doing this for a pretty long time. Yeah, I can never remember it. It's like, what's that movie with? Two buddy flick? where it's like, are we going on three? Or is it three go? Right? It's a cop show. cop movie. Kevin 0:41 Of course. Okay. So Bob, approximately approximately 40 years ago. Bob You were born. Kevin Hmm, yeah, a little more than that. But approximately 40 years ago, we sent out a few probes. They were named Voyager one. Voyager to you want to guess how far away from Earth they are right now? Bob 1:08 40 years - they've made it past Saturn. Kevin 1:15 Oh no, they've left the solar system. Bob 1:17 Oh, well then I'm correct. Kevin 1:23 Answer Jeopardy what or who is somebody that's never been in my kitchen? Well, yes. I don't know. Ah, anyway, they're they're far, far away. throw me off. So today I would like to talk a little bit about about travel. Oh, no, we're not going alien ADAL space probes from South Park. We're just going space for weeks. Bob 1:51 But we did mention aliens, so maybe we'll get some less. Kevin 1:54 Yes, yes, absolutely. Unknown Speaker 1:57 You are listening to the Bob and Kevin show. We're Bob Baty Barr and Kevin miszewski. Each week we cover relevant tech and social issues related to technology. Our website is Bob and Kevin dot show. And our episodes can be found virtually on any Podcast Network. Be sure to follow us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Just search for Bob and Kevin show. Kevin 2:27 So, what I want to focus on isn't Star Trek type stuff where it's like want to be fantastical if we could sail the space and stars and visit all these m class planets and have sex with green aliens. Allah Captain Kirk Bob 2:44 right when we talk about the lesser known Starfleet vessels Kevin 2:53 supplemental Okay, so, I had a fan on here just turn it off. Hopefully they come through the audio but too late. Now Bob 3:00 Anyway, I'm surrounded by fans. Just kidding. Kevin 3:07 So I want to stay away from the fantastical side of space travel because we have Netflix CBS all access the new Picard series for Star Trek is streaming live now etc. So I don't really want to go that route. What I want to try to focus on Unknown Speaker 3:22 is this is the most fantastical time for space travel in the history of man. Kevin 3:28 In what way Bob 3:30 we have individual companies, not just governments in the space Unknown Speaker 3:34 travel game, that's so rather than fantastic. Kevin 3:38 Rather than apply the hashtag of fantastical to SpaceX, I will apply the hashtag of practical and that's actually what I want to talk about the practicality what is realistic, I think in terms of space travel in the year 2020. And looking ahead, because why my 11 year old son says Dad, why haven't we been to Mars yet? And I said, well, because it's really far away. It's hard, right? It's It's not easy. So why is it hard? Well, guess what? I've made a bunch of show notes here and outline, if you will, that I would like to share with you, Bob. How does that sound? Bob 4:14 It sounds great. But I already have a question. Yes. So we mentioned those probes that have been jettison away from Earth for 40 years, and they are past Saturn, in fact, well outside our solar system, and they've never Kevin 4:27 been in my kitchen. Bob 4:29 Okay, never even in my kitchen. Yes. They got there over the course of 40 years. However, there's no way that a person could go at the speed that those vehicles are traveling correct. Kevin 4:43 They can because humans just need to survive the G force. And g force only exists if there's acceleration. So let's say you're going 17,000 miles an hour, all you're actually doing is just orbiting Earth but you don't don't feel any g force because You're not accelerating, you're at a constant speed. Is that the speed of an orbiting vessel? Yeah, if you want to orbit around Earth, you have to go around 17,000 miles an hour. And actually, my son Jackson asked me, Why is that dad? And I tried to explain to him if he took a heavy object like a bolt or nut and tied it to a string, you spun it around. That bolt, actually is a pretty good model for this because that bolt wants to fly away from the center. However, it cannot fly fully away because of the string. Well, if we look at that, in terms of an earth model, the string is gravity and the speed that keeps that string tight, it happens to be 17,000 miles an hour. If you go faster than 17,000 miles an hour. What would happen Bob? The string still won't break. The string won't break, but Well, technically, yes, it does because you leave Earth's orbit grass Nobody can no longer contain you. Bob 6:02 And so you're going around this circle at 17,000. Well, actually, the theory is, is those crafts aren't really going around the circle, the gravity is what keeps them in the circle, right? Kevin 6:11 Well, you're anything orbiting Earth is constantly falling back to Earth. with gravity. However, it's the balance between centrifugal force trying to push you away from Earth because you're spinning around it so fast and gravity holding you on. So it's a delicate balance. If you don't go at least 17,000 miles an hour you d orbit and you come back to Earth. That's why you have to go from 17,000 miles an hour to something more agreeable on Earth, because that's not good to hit the ground at 17,000 miles an hour, you need to slow down and, and the air itself heats up. That's why you have the like the space shuttle shuttle and the Apollo capsules and all that have those heat shields because you need to decelerate essentially. And if you go faster than 17,000 miles an hour you just leave Earth orbit and go somewhere else. Bob 6:59 So the other day De the Dragon capsule, right? Is that what they back out up to Mach two? Kevin 7:08 Well, they if you're talking about they did a emergency abort test, right? Yes. And I don't know if it left, it didn't leave the atmosphere. Because the idea there was, hey, if we have to hit the ohshit button or some automatic system hits the ohshit button, can these dude survive the G forces? And can they get away from the rocket and it was a successful test? Bob 7:32 Right, but I saw a stat that it said that the capsule got up to so they had mentioned live that it got past Mach one. I think Ilan came out as part of the post analysis and said it got up to mock to do people good at Mach two. I believe two times the speed of sound, right. Right. Kevin 7:54 But again, it all depends on acceleration. You right now you're going I don't know 1000 miles an hour just spinning around Earth, but because you're not accelerating, it's a constant speed, no big deal. So going Mach two is not a big deal. The problem or the difference here is when you're on a rocket, you're not at a constant speed, you're going from zero to Mach two. So there's a constant acceleration so a g force being imparted on you. And when that rocket fires on the top of that to to tear off the the people to take them to safety, there's even more g forces because there's an acceleration that happens. And then being a paratrooper I'm very familiar with the deceleration g force when your parachute opens. Holy shit. Ah, you know, it's like, but it's the best feeling in the world because you know, your parachute opens because Bob 8:41 you know, you're not gonna bounce. Kevin 8:42 Yeah, at least not yet. Exactly. It's it's not the fear of heights that will ever kill you. It's a sudden stop at the bottom. That's the one you need to look out for. Bob 8:51 I don't know speaking for someone who's afraid of heights that could possibly get me Kevin 8:57 so let me ask you a Question about space? Like, why? Why do humans want to go to space? So I wrote down two possibilities. Actually, let's, let's call it three, just the technology like satellites. Okay, space, we know there's a use case their space tours. So you got like Virgin Galactic selling tickets, basically to go up to low Earth orbit, and then come back, and then colonization. So those are the three things I can think of. Is there anything outside of the way three? Bob 9:28 I think exploration is probably the top of the heap. Right? Okay. Kevin 9:33 Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't really, I mean, I guess I conflated colonization with exploration. So you could take a lap around the moon and come back home and exploring the surface of the moon. Bob 9:45 Right. Right. But we have those unmanned probes we started the show out with that are really just on a mission of pure exploration. True. Kevin 9:54 They're not as necessary. Go ahead. Bob 9:56 Well, Virgin Galactic is not actually doing trips, though. Yet, right, but they're selling tickets. Kevin 10:02 They have things that can go up to the edge of space and back and they are selling tickets. But I honestly it's priced out of my budget, so I haven't kept up on it. Bob 10:14 Hmm, yeah, I felt like that was still vaporware, that they're not really actually doing that. Kevin 10:20 I would agree. I would tend to agree with so we kind of have those four sorts of things, space tours, colonization, exploration, and just you know, app applying communication tech or telescopes and shit like that, right? Bob 10:37 Yeah, sorry, hang on. I'm looking at this Virgin Galactic bullshit. Actually, they actually have been into space But have they been into space with paying customers? Well, I thought Kevin 10:48 I saw recently where they can touch the edge of space. So it also comes down to the legal What does going to space air quotes me Bob 10:56 right? It's a quarter million dollars for 90 minute flight. they've received about $80 million in deposits from future astronauts. Unknown Speaker 11:03 What the Bob 11:05 frick? That was December of 2018. Kevin 11:09 Hey, man, we need a tax write off its tax season. By the way, we need a tax write off, Hey, I know want to buy a ticket. You can hide some of that money in a space tour. ism. Right? Bob 11:21 Yeah. All right, I'll stop looking at that crap. So you asked me a question about telescopes and whatnot. What did you say? Well, Kevin 11:26 well, basically, I think we boil it down to why the frick should we even go to space? And I think we have four kind of reasons, right? Why do we give a fuck? Right? We have exploration, space tourism, colonization, and then applying technology like satellites and stuff like that. Bob 11:45 Right during that also just what people do, like people are starved to learn about things they don't know about. Kevin 11:52 True. I mean, you hear stuff all the time. We know more about outer space than we know about our own oceans like we just kind of Right. Yeah, we I mean, we lost the whole airplane and H 370. Somewhere in earth in an ocean somewhere. Nobody can find it. That's weird. Yeah, that's strange. Okay, so, space. It's not easy, right? So to come back to my son's thought, hey, why am I getting the Mars yet? Well, I mean, think about the moon. That was 50 years ago, Neil Armstrong's dead Bob 12:24 in theory, in theory, it was just oh, Kevin 12:30 you know, one of those people are, you know, I was you know, almost had me there. Okay. So it's it's been 50 years and then we did the whole space shuttle thing and we're like, hey, reusable spaceships and shit. And that kind of like turned into Well, they can do low Earth orbit. They're basically fancy satellites with with a crew cab, and then that comes back down. Yeah, that's cool. It's an advancement, but then they killed him off. They killed off the space shuttle. That is event Then enter Space X and there's some other ones. But of course, they're not as ubiquitous, I guess a Space X. What's this one called? Like deep blue or something like that? Bad? I don't know. Why am I not surprised Jeff Bezos is shoveling money into a space program? Is it like a billionaire thing to be like? Well, let's see, we need our own spaceship company. Bob 13:22 Well, no. And that was actually one of the cruxes of the article that I sent you earlier today is that, you know, one of the things that happens in any industry like this, especially when it's early, you know, like early adopter early get into that there's a consolidation. And, you know, one company will acquire the other and, and make itself bigger gain technology, but they don't feel like the three billionaires that are doing it. So you got Branson, Bezos, and musk. And they don't see any of the three of those actually working together or like, you know, combining. Kevin 13:55 Gotcha. Bob 13:55 So it's totally a billionaire. It's a billionaire thing, like what are you doing? I got Well, I better get to. Kevin 14:03 That's fair. So it takes a long time to get anywhere in traffic here on Earth takes even longer to get somewhere by airplane. But you know, we can still get around this earth. You know, like the longest flight, you know, just happened recently. You can go from like London to Sydney, and a ridiculous amount of times like 14 hour flight or something ridiculous. I don't know, pick a number. So you get to outer space. Hey, now we're using spaceships. We'll get there faster. Right? Well, I have a list here, Bob. And I'm going to go through all eight planets, and even give you a bonus one called Pluto. Bob 14:40 And back in or is out again. No, Kevin 14:42 it's still out. We're still still blaming people like Neil deGrasse Tyson. Bob 14:46 I thought it was not eggs. I thought it you know, it's good. It's bad. It's in the towel. Kevin 14:50 I think it's still out. So we're going to start from the end and go out. How long do you think it would take us to get the mercury let's say you had a reason to go to New York mercury. What you don't Bob 15:00 we'd never make it because we'd burn up. Um, there's bad to get to mercury right now. Kevin 15:09 Yeah. How long would it take on a current technology? Bob 15:13 year and a half? Kevin 15:15 Hundred and 47 days is what it would take Unknown Speaker 15:17 half a year. Sorry. Well, that Well, Kevin 15:19 hold on. There's an asterisk here. Hundred 47 days is what it took the mercury probe in 1970. And so in the 1970s to go past there, however, to slow down enough to actually land can actually take six and a half years. Oh, that is it because Sydney has to match the orbital velocity and slowing down is hard. Because we always think about space travel and getting up to speed and getting there quick. Well, what they don't show you in Star Trek is much is the brakes right? How do you slow down and not splat right into the planet or just totally miss it Bob 15:57 without a for some really bad TV. If there are We've got to spend a half an episode slowing down. Kevin 16:05 I'm doing the best I can but the brakes this quickie, so Yeah, exactly. All right. Bob 16:13 Who is that? okati Kevin 16:18 that's my best Scotty. All right, Venus. How long do you think it would take to get to Venus? Bob 16:26 With the slowing down. Kevin 16:29 I don't know if this one's qualified with this line that just pick a number. How long would take the flyby get there touch it. About 15 months apparently Oh, apparently the the program mercker is called messenger and we sent Magellan to Venus and it took 15 months. Now. As we get through this, you might start thinking Wait a second. I've seen the solar system model Earth can be on the left hand side and the planet we're going to Bob 16:58 be calculating this based on Well, path I'm sure, Kevin 17:03 right. So NASA does their thing and says, Well, we've decided our our window to get there is here and it took 15 months. And then do you remember how many days of course, do you remember? Hey, Bob, remember that time you watch Apollo 11? land? No, you were sorry. I didn't mean to imply. Well, Bob, you went to venture gas on how long it took Apollo 11 to get to the moon. Bob 17:29 I feel like that wasn't very long. Like it was less than a day, right? Fuck this Kevin 17:36 Mars the opportunity lander, believe it or probe? Whatever opportunity was. How long do you think it took to get to Mars? Bob 17:46 Well, I feel like I've heard that that is an 18 month one way trip. Kevin 17:52 You know, I, I've heard anything from six months to five years. I'm like, I'm gonna Google that shit. And we're going to come back to it more but Took opportunity seven months there. Bob 18:03 But that was the slowing down to land or no did not want to actually slow down and land. Kevin 18:09 I have a list of things that have gone to Mars and we're going to cover that in a minute. So stick a pin in that. If you were to, if you were the GALILEO research for the GALILEO probe, and we happen to send you out to Jupiter, which we did, how long do you think it would take to get Jupiter? Bob 18:30 12 years? Six years pretty good. Kevin 18:34 Right on Bob, we sent Cassini to Saturn, how long did you think that took? And that left in 1997 and got there in the year 2000 and 7004. Bob 18:48 So it took seven years to I'm getting closer. Kevin 18:51 Now this one, I'm going to try not to giggle because it's it's how, how long did it take to get to your anus? Unknown Speaker 19:00 Enough. Kevin 19:02 I'm get going. Yes, apparently boys are when it did it hit so we have two voyagers one and two but one of the Voyagers it took eight and a half years so we sent Bob 19:11 a probe to your anus Kevin 19:13 apparently, you know it's funny because over the years you know when I grew up we called it your anus but apparently you know Uranus Uranus. But you know when did that happen? Did just like the political correct people say no caffrey Uranus. We got to see Uranus. Bob 19:28 Too many elementary school children losing their shit every time they talked about space. Kevin 19:34 Yes. And then Voyager made it to Neptune. How long do you think it took to get the Neptune so from the beginning? That's right, Bob 12 years. And then new horizons. That's one of the most recent ones and it made it to Pluto, which is a nonprofit It in 2015 but can you guess when we actually sent the probe Bob 20:05 to Pluto? 1998 2006. So Kevin 20:09 it took nine and a half years to Pluto is on one of those really weird orbits where it's like get some 200 year like, you know, once around the Sun thing. It's kind of weird Bob 20:22 because it's really far away. Kevin 20:24 Yes. So what I was kind of getting at here is it takes a long time to get somewhere. In fact, some more examples of going to Mars as promised here Viking one and 1976 took 335 days to get there. Viking to also in 1976 360 days almost a year to get there. In 2006, the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter 210 days curiosity 253 days and Phoenix lander 295 days so yeah, takes a minute to get there. So How's the space travel looking to you so far? Bob, do you want to go anywhere in the solar system? It's starting to look pretty, pretty long. Bob 21:08 Well, but it's interesting though, when you look at those probe type vehicles and some of the other ones, they're not very big, so their fuel capacity is not very big, so they probably can't do like very long giant sustained burns. So their speed is probably far less than what we would achieve in something that could take passengers right. Kevin 21:31 Yeah, so the the speed at which we hurl the thing, whether it's got people in or not, is dependent on how much fuel there is in it hundred percent. The and the reason you can't put much fuel, let alone a lot of payload into a rocket is because leaving Earth's atmosphere isn't easy. You have to overcome that whole gravity thing out here on Earth. Once you get out of Earth's gravity. You keep chugging along, but the real trouble is just that in Lift. Bob 22:00 So is the new thing that I'm hearing? Or did I totally make this up in my mind that we're going to be exploring, like a staging from the moon, so it doesn't take as much fuel to get out from there. Kevin 22:14 I've heard of some things like that, but I think we're, Bob 22:19 we're moon though, right? Like, I feel like there's a new commitment to going back. Kevin 22:25 That's what Trump said, right? We will not only plant our flag and leave our footprint, we will establish a foundation for an eventual mission to Mars. And perhaps someday too many worlds beyond. That's what he said. But I don't know if he's just sad to say it, you know, he didn't exactly say in this decade, I promise we will go to the moon or whatever, you know, Kennedy said so every every note he ever says, decayed, or that's weird, very Boston. It is it's east coast. All right. Um, so There are challenges with going on through space travel. One of the dangers Yes, duh. One of the dangers is radiation. So once you get outside of Earth's magnetic field and they had this problem with Apollo is the sun wants to kill you. It wants to irradiate you and here on earth we are protected by the ozone, the magnetic thinking and all that so you got radiation. The next thing you got is supplies, you know humans, or let's assume human space travel here. We need food, water, oxygen, shelter, power. What else do we need Bob? Anything or that covered? Bob 23:44 waste disposal. Kevin 23:46 Open the door, hang it out. Close the door. Bob 23:49 That's not how that works in space. Kevin 23:52 But they've got that pretty well figured out right? I mean, I imagine if you can stay on the space station for a year they figured out where to put the pool right. Bob 23:59 Good point. Yeah so the space station we really haven't covered that Kevin 24:05 so so you need so you have radiations problem distances a problem supplies so the food water oxygen and what have you just break down this there's no like you know a spaceships broke down think you could take a look at it you know somewhere out in the middle nowhere triple A is not coming out to fix you right? Bob 24:25 Yeah those first people that are going to be making that trip they're gonna it's pretty much going to be a success or not. Kevin 24:35 So as we alluded to one of the challenges is just getting up to speed you have to break out of Earth's atmosphere. So you're going to have to go at least 17,000 miles an hour in a direction. And let's say you're going to Mars. At some point, you gotta slow down. Slowing down is part of the equation. A lot of times these rockets nice probes will We'll face back the way it was coming in, do a burn to decelerate. And then one of the troubles you have there if you actually want to land on Mars, because that'll put you into orbit around Mars, is now you're changing atmospheres. So the engine that gets you from off of Earth is one thing, the engine that got you from Earth to Mars, maybe another and then the engine that puts you back man safely onto Mars could be a third one, it could be like the first one. So I have a list of rocket types here that Oh, my goodness. Bob 25:35 Couldn't we just group I'm into small, medium and large? I don't understand. Kevin 25:38 I don't know because I'm gonna say I'll be like, I've never heard of the heavier this one. Yeah, so we're going to do that in a second. But of course, when you enter Martian atmosphere, you could use a parachute. So passive braking thing like a parachute bouncy balloons. I guess retrorockets would be more of an active thing, but that's a common thing. So Imagine just leaving Earth atmosphere. A lot of times we use solid rockets or liquid rockets, right? Yeah, very traditionally see him on TV? Blah, blah, blah. So those were all very familiar with but apparently there's the Hall Effect thruster, Bob do remember the Hall Effect thruster? Bob 26:18 What are we talking about those when it we were talking about starlink? Yes. Perfect. Like that ion exchange kind of deal. Is that what that is? Kevin 26:27 That's right. So, you ever remember, remember, maybe you did or didn't Popular Mechanics, you know, when I was growing up as a kid Popular Mechanics would be in somebody's mailbox, it happened to read it. And it would always be this fantastical new engine that you know, this will get us to Mars in five years, you know, blah, blah, blah. You're tracking with me? You know the guy. Yeah. Bob 26:49 Very familiar with Popular Mechanics. Popular Science. Yeah. Yeah, maybe? Yeah, one of those. And so kennix is going to be more like on the ground here. I'm sure you're thinking popular song. Kevin 27:00 Yeah, I think you're right. Very good. So at some point, you got to go Well, today that stuff ever pan out? And how would you know? So Wikipedia actually has a list. And NASA keeps a scale, if you will, it goes from one to nine. Number. So if you're a number one type technology, you are a basic principle observed and report it basically, you're a shower thought at this point, no more. Then it goes all the way up to level nine, which is, it's in operations and it's in testing and there's everywhere in between there. So if I look at my list of space propulsion, and I'm going to send you a link just just cuz I Bob 27:43 can follow along at home. Kevin 27:45 Yes, exactly. So if you guys scroll down, there's there's a table but only 1234 or five six types of engines, if I counted correctly, are actually flight proven number nine And then you've got three that are eights, two that are sevens. Oh, it looks like solar sails are also a nightmare. So I guess seven. But there's a lot of these technologies that are like, well seems like a good idea. We're throwing a shit ton of money at it, but none of its ever actually kind of gone anywhere. And if you think of things like warp drives and things like that, I think that those are on this list somewhere. Bob 28:26 But what that's got to be closer to one though, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't even know drive is totally theoretical, right? Kevin 28:33 Yeah. Okay, so, uh, what's interesting about this list, you have solid rockets and liquid rockets, and the column that I am interested in is the firing duration. Think about it. They can only fire those rockets for a few minutes, right. And that shit either is you've used all your fuel or you got to conserve it. The ones that are interesting are the Hall Effect thrusters, which are on the starlink satellites. Those things can last months, if not years. And so the idea is if you are constantly accelerating and within acceptable human you know, where you won't kill a human. You know, could you get to Mars or somewhere much quicker because you don't? Why? Cuz you're burning constantly because in order to get to Mars quicker, you just need to use more fuel. And so there's not very many engine types on here that last a long time. They're pretty much like fireworks if you will. Yep, yep, there was. That's all we got. And so I'm not very optimistic that we're going to get to you space or to Mars. That is any quicker. What do you think? Bob 29:50 No, I don't I mean, I don't see anything on this list that would actually put us you know, it not within reality. No. So we're living on existing technology, which means we need a giant fuel capacity and we're not going to be able to go very fast. Kevin 30:08 So if we look at Mars again and go, Okay, how long does it take to get to Mars? We originally said about seven months However, because the way Earth and Mars you know, kind of dance around the sun at different, you know, speeds and whatnot, it could actually be as closest 39 days, or as far as 289 days, however, comma, that assumes a straight line distance because we've always been told, well, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So that straight line will take you through the sun in some cases, and ignores gravity and orbits and things like that. So practically speaking, it takes about nine months to get there. And that the real son of a gun here is is that window of opportunity, where it's about seven to nine months to get there is only every 26 months So imagine somebody on Mars calling 911 Hello, NASA 911 how many states are emergency? All right, well, we'll be there in 26 months, maybe, you know, it's not very practical. So that's another challenge. You're, you're pretty much in the frontier. No kidding, right? Bob 31:22 Well, not only is it a challenge for the rescue aspect of it, or the health aspect, but also just the practicality of the trip in general. So let's say we go once we're going again, a year and two months later, Kevin 31:39 probably not. Or probably yes, I mean, you've got you've got a land people on that planet, often right? Bob 31:46 Right. Yeah. But I guess what I'm getting at though is like what is the so one leaves today say the window is today. Say it gets there in nine months. They're not getting any support again, for another No, well, 16 1718 months, Kevin 32:04 not necessarily. I mean, because Earth and Mars are still out there. So you could send somebody this week and somebody else next week except the people that leave this week, it takes them seven months to get there. The people who leave next week at seven months and plus, maybe three weeks because Mars is getting ahead or getting behind Earth is pulling ahead, you know, that sort of thing, Bob 32:26 right? But logistically speaking, you're not going to start staggering them like that until we have a proven method and sustainability. Kevin 32:35 properly. Right. So what are some of the challenges of colonizing Mars specifically? Well, if we come back to food, water, got it. Oxygen, shelter, communications and distance. Those are my main ones here. So we haven't really talked about Communications at all. Know what really grinds my gears about Star Trek Bob. A lot, but let me help you. It has a lot Do the communications because Starfleet Command on earth will be sending a message to Captain Picard and Captain Picard will take it. And he's 100 light years away from Earth, right? And then suddenly he just can speak real time to Starfleet Command makes no sense whatsoever. Because, wait a second, if communication signals travel speed of light, and we're 100 light years away from Earth, shouldn't that radio message take 100 years to get to us? So that bothers me. So, yes, in real terms, if you were to make that 911 call from Mars, or if you wanted to send a Christmas Graham to an astronaut, or whatever, do you want to send the signal, it takes you anywhere from three minutes to about 22 minutes depending on the position of Earth and Mars in relation to each other. You want to talk about latency as it says and latency. considerable lag going on there. So the other day somebody on Twitter had mentioned, you know, time zones with Mars, I'm like, Oh my god, could you imagine having to code not only time for Earth, but time in relation to another planet? Oh boy, how do you want to go there? Is that even possible? You know, train, a train leaves a station on Earth. Another train leaves the station on Mars. When will these two trains collide? Yes, their space trains But yeah, I mean, that's just like, Ah, you have to have, Bob 34:34 yeah, but the daylight the definition of a day on Mars is going to be substantially different than a definition of a day here. Kevin 34:40 Right? So we have universal time here on Earth. Where in Zulu time, does that become the Galactic time? You know, if I'm on Mars, do I just have to care about well what time is it back on Earth but you're right, they have different orbit, orbital periods as they rotate and then they go around the Sun differently. I don't even know if my mind can comprehend this at this point. Bob 35:04 Yeah, this is becoming less and less of a potential possibility as we were on here on the timeline of broadcast. Kevin 35:14 All right, so have you seen the Martian with? What's his name? Bob 35:20 Matt Damon? Kevin 35:21 Yes. I think so. Where he says, I'm going to science the shit out of this. So the premise of the movie is he grows potatoes and the thing Yes, he gets left behind left for dead and then he's actually not dead. It's a pretty good movie. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson says pretty realistic. So I wanted to know, all right, could Is that possible? I did some some interweb research. So let's, let's look at food. So you're Matt Damon. Wait, wait, wait. So you googled? Is it possible to grow food on Mars? Yeah. And there's lots of stuff like that NASA has their own papers on this and I'm going to reference this. Bob 35:59 Yes. How does Now even though they've only sent a little rovers Kevin 36:03 Ah, so I'm going to send you another link while I I talk here. And long story short, we need food right? So how do you grow food on Mars? Well, there's two ways you can grow here. Easy. No, no, we're not going fantastical. Here. We're going practical. So I can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I can't cut and paste and talk at the same time here. Okay, so link set. So I familias hydroponics. Oh yeah. So hydroponics for the lay listeners, you can grow plants without soil at all. All you have to do is basically put nutrient rich water over the roots, and then voila, you have a plant. So Secondly, you can also grow that's overly simplified, but okay. Are you an expert, Bob, can you please enlighten us? Bob 36:55 Plenty of plants with too much water. So trust me, it's possible. All right. Kevin 37:01 So, in the movie with Matt Damon, he grows food basically under attempt, if you will. And according to NASA, Mars has all the nutrients needed for growing stuff. And, in fact, let's see here. I don't know if that that link working that I sent you. Bob 37:23 Yeah, but what about so these are all the things that they found that were positive in this world that would support life. But what about the bad things? Kevin 37:31 Like? Bob 37:33 Well, they didn't list them here. But what about things that would be damaging to plants? Like what if it's overly acidic, or all those things, Kevin 37:40 I can barely get my grass to grow. So I'm no expert at this. But according to their little PDF here, white paper, all the essential plant nutrients are available such as oxygen, carbon, hydrogen bottle bottle, and there's a big list. All right, nobody wants to hear the list. It's out there and Google it. Alright, so assuming to it Assuming we can feed ourselves and that we've overcome the distance to get to Mars in the landing and all that fun stuff. Next thing is water. Where do you think we're going to get water from Bob Bob 38:13 from all the ice? Kevin 38:15 Yes. Where's the ice on Mars though? Bob 38:17 I believe it's underground. Kevin 38:20 Very good. According to my sources, the ice is just below the surface. And or mostly at the southern polar cap. Apparently, there's enough ice frozen up the solar or the southern polar cap. In order to if it were to melt, there would be 36 feet of water over the whole planet. Allegedly. So Bob 38:44 that's a lot of water. Give it a couple lifetimes and I'm sure we'll figure out how to flood that place too. Kevin 38:48 Well, there there's a problem with water on Mars. Bob, do you want to guess what that is? liquid gravity of this note close. If it's not gravity You have no idea what it would be. Bob, if you were to take off your space helmet as you're whipping around Earth trying to fix the Hubble Telescope for the 10th time, what would happen to you? Bob 39:15 Something bad, I'm assuming Kevin 39:16 Yes. where I'm going with this is water here on Earth, liquid water only stays liquid because of temperature and one other element and that is pressure. So if you take a cup of water with you all the way up to outer space, it will evaporate, it'll boil away because the boiling point of water changes depending on how much pressure there so in a vacuum water will boil instantly, right? Bob 39:41 It's at a much lower temperature here, Kevin 39:43 right? So if you take off your space, how much space your liquids boil away, that doesn't sound very fun. So on Mars, it only has 1% of the pressure atmospheric pressure that Earth does. So liquid water If you could haven't liquid water, it would instantly boil away. So it doesn't want to be liquid. You need to have it pressurized. Bob 40:06 How does it stay in a frozen state that Kevin 40:10 frozen water is different than liquid? Well, that's why I kept trying to qualify it with liquid water. Because I don't know chemistry. Bob 40:19 Yeah, but don't you think that the low boiling point due to the lack of pressure would prevent the frozen state from even occurring? Kevin 40:27 This I have no idea I out of my pay grade. Bob 40:30 I don't know science well enough, either. I just I feel like there's lots of really smart people that are you know, investigated this but some of it's not logical out for me. Kevin 40:41 So, so we could get our food, we can get our water allegedly. If we do some stuff. Bob 40:47 We'd have to create artificial pressure environment so it wouldn't boil. Kevin 40:51 Well, you have to do that anyway. It's called your space suit. Because so you don't your liquids inside you don't boil Bob 40:57 well sorry, larger scale right artist. Fishel pressurized areas Kevin 41:01 in Well, you're gonna need a habitat Anyway, you don't want to be like, we're on year three, and I've never taken off my space suit. I've snapped on the inside because I haven't been able to clear anything Reek. Oh my god, but my poop chute. Still working. It's not gummed up too much yet. Anyway, so you've got to have some sort of habitat, which takes the Academy. Next point. In order to go to Mars, you don't just go to Mars with nothing there. You should you should pre stage a bunch of habitats, rovers, food emergency rations, right? You're sending all that way heavier. Bob 41:40 That gets back to one of my earlier comments, though, like how, how many? I mean, realistically, we start right this second. We had all the materials to send up there. Just think about how many trips it would take to even stage the area given optimizing the distance and the speed and the length of time it takes to get there. We're just Far out Kevin 42:02 totally agree but if I'm if you're like Kevin, you need to go to Mars I'd be like Bob, you better spot can send supplies for even put my spacesuit on. Exactly. Bob 42:11 And we haven't sent any of those yet. Right. Okay. And I don't even know what we would send yet Dewey? Kevin 42:17 Well, food, oxygen, water. Bob 42:19 We understand the categorical. You know, we understand the boxes, we have to check but we don't have any of the we don't have existing technology right now to a get it there, be deployed and see have it still be viable by the time people get there? Kevin 42:36 Not math, certainly not. Because every time we send like a rover or something, we all pucker our butts going well, is it gonna crash? That gonna make it you know, it's definitely not perfected yet. Bob 42:47 Right? And it's and that's just one small thing, not nearly enough to sustain a pre flight of supplies. Kevin 42:53 Yeah. And my son and I were talking about this. He's like, Dad, what happened if you put all your supplies here and then you miss you land on the other side? Well, that's bad. So do you have to pre stage all you know, at strategic places all over the frickin planet? Bob 43:07 And that actually, you know, one thing that I do appreciate about some of the more the media, the fantastical, the shows the movies, they're starting to get a little bit more on board with everything doesn't go perfectly. And yeah, the supplies were here, but we're actually 25 miles from there. how we're going to get from point A to point B. Kevin 43:25 Yeah, that's kind of cool. I think you're probably referencing Netflix, Mars. TV show. You've seen that right? Bob 43:32 Yeah, but Lawson space deals with some of that shit on a regular basis. So Kevin 43:35 juicy Season Two yet I've lost in Bob 43:37 space. We're in the middle of it right now. Okay, Kevin 43:39 yeah, actually enjoy it. Yeah, I mean, definitely some laughter knows. But yeah, I really like the Mars thing because they they flip this one of those weird docu dramas where they flip back and forth between reality and drama. Bob 43:53 Is that actually a National Geographic? I don't know. I thought it was a Netflix But well, no, I think it is on net. flicks, but I think it's a National Geographic, like docu drama. Kevin 44:04 Gotcha. I don't know. I might I'm gonna go watch that after this. All right, so we've talked about food we've talked about water, oxygen, how do you take enough oxygen to a planet that just doesn't have enough Bob? Bob 44:17 Well, I don't think they're going to be able to take it I think they get once again, I think they're going to have to devise some technology probably tied to the water and the pressurization to extract oxygen out of that process in kind of like fabricate an environment, Kevin 44:33 very good. Everything. I think in the Martian, they do this basically, you can split the water atom, which is hydrogen, oxygen. If you use a process called electrolysis, you can use electricity to simply have to free the bond between hydrogen and the oxygen. And you can have pure hydrogen and oxygen Of course, it's very dangerous because pure hydrogen flammable and pure oxygen is Well, that's one of the ingredients of freaking fire here, right is an oxidizer. Yeah. So it's a dangerous proposition. The real trouble with electrolysis is it takes a lot of power. Yeah. So you'd have to take that ability up there with you to exactly we haven't even talked about shit. How do we generate? How do we keep the lights on? Right? Because solar power ain't gonna cut it on Mars, you're too far away. Bob 45:24 It's funny though. Like, if you bring this back to conversations we've had about, like artificial intelligence, where it's in its infancy. And then if you layer on top of this, you know, we've mentioned Ilan a couple times already, some of the stuff that he's working on, like, you know, with his solar batteries, his battery banks, the research that they're doing for starlink, you know, to be able to synchronize and you know, the stuff he's doing with SpaceX to be able to send rockets out, bring them back, all the precision that goes into that, like a lot of these pieces actually stack up pretty well as Legos. toward us getting someplace else. Kevin 46:02 Yeah, my fear is we've put all of our attention into getting there and not enough in the Now what? Now so I I'm a little worried that we don't hear me I'm sure some smart think tanks thinking about this. But isn't NASA is Space X worried about this is a another billionaire needs to come along ago Okay, we're not SpaceX we're not we're not the Uber ride to get you to Mars. What we are is where the sustainability company that'll keep you alive. Bob 46:31 Well, I think you might be working toward that with a lot of these smaller projects and I'm doing smaller and air quotes. I mean, maybe they are pieces to a bigger puzzle. Kevin 46:40 So Bob, we've talked about oxygen, but here on earth we don't breathe all oxygen in the air. Do we? Bob 46:49 Sure feels good when you do though. Kevin 46:51 It does. But are you familiar with the infamous ending of Apollo one there was a fire right there. A pure oxygen environment that killed Gus Grissom, Ed white and Roger Chaffee because they didn't think about putting nitrogen and the oxygen environment to prevent an explosion and or a fire from instantly just roof Bob 47:16 you know, consuming the entire capsule. Kevin 47:18 So nitrogen fortunately is available on Mars and the soil, but that's again something else you've got to extract it's not free, it's going to take energy. Now, I imagine because your space, it's starting to wreak as we talked about, you're gonna want to take that off, and you're gonna need a shelter. You're gonna need to some way to bathe yourself somewhere to Bob 47:42 that bathing things that happen for a while. Kevin 47:45 Did you know that in the military that women are not allowed to be out in the field for more than three days? For hygiene reasons. Bob 47:56 Well, that's not space travel. Kevin 47:59 Sorry. It's not space travel, but I gotta think it's got to be the same thing. So it basically have to, are there are there rules for spaceforce written out anywhere? Well, if I guess it's a military branch, so I mean, when you're in basic training, army base training, you are nothing. They don't give two shits about you. But the important thing here is the go. I know we don't care about you your training. We don't care if you're dirty, nasty or whatever. But the women need to go back to the barracks every three days and bathe and come back. And as a male I was like, What the hell? I'm covered in bug bites I smell why cannot go back take shower. Suck it up private. Bob 48:41 Yeah, it's gonna end up going away. That's not gonna be a forever rule. Kevin 48:45 I honestly I'm not a woman. I have no idea. Why that not a rule. Bob 48:50 Never been a woman. Kevin 48:51 Not looking now. So I don't know why I didn't. I didn't want to ask Hey, why why do you have to go back every two days. Is there something else? unaware of what happens to you in these, Bob 49:02 I'm pretty sure when they send men and women on this trip to Mars, there's not going to be any weird rules about women having to bathe every three days. Kevin 49:12 Well, what there might be is rules about fraternization procreation. Bob 49:18 Like mean it's required. Kevin 49:20 Like, if you get if you have a baby or get somebody pregnant, that's that's like, oh, gee, what are we gonna do? Because you think they're sending the gear to handle that? Bob 49:33 Well, first of all, it will be strictly forbidden. Second of all, there's not a damn thing in the world that can do to stop it. It will be strictly forbidden. The first several trips, several, several, maybe most of them too. I mean, we'll get to this later, but they'll all be one way trips. So no one's good. Even though they will be a strict rule not to procreate while they're there. It's going to happen. Kevin 49:58 Yeah, for sure. Because Somehow some way evening army basic training people hook up and I have no idea why you don't want to do that. It's so disgusting. Bob 50:09 But it's that's just human nature for sure. Kevin 50:12 Okay, so we need shelter, we need to be able to Bob 50:14 take that off. You have an important question for you before we get Yep. I honestly believe that we're going to get to this that you and I will see this in our lifetime. Kevin 50:25 That's that's amazing question because Jackson asked me that he's like dad will never happen in our lifetime. I said he's Bob 50:32 got a better shot than you and I do but what and that's what I said that's exactly what Kevin 50:35 I said. I said my lifetime know, your lifetime. Maybe. But honestly, if you I'm kind of doubting that too because and he wants to be the first one on Mars. You know, it's very noble, very, very 11 year old kid, right? But I look at everything go Wait a second. We haven't been in the moon 50 years. Do we give a shit enough to make this happen because the world Just Elon Musk ain't gonna cut it. Bob 51:02 No, but you and I've talked about this before, though there is a there's a very, you know, it's almost like Flat Earth versus round Earth. There's camps that believe we have to go to Mars because this planet is almost done. And then there's actually another camp that thinks even though this planet might not almost be done, we need to go there because we need to be first. And then there's the camp of people who said, We don't need to do that. We need to fix it here. First. Kevin 51:26 Let me see if I can address all three camps. this planet's fucked, we should go to another planet. Honestly, you're you're older than me. And I'm not that far behind. We're to the point where Earth can be around long enough, at least for me and you and probably our kids. No problem. Honestly, just I don't Bob 51:40 know if that's a no problem, but okay. I see a greater chance of us losing coastal lands in our lifetime then getting to Mars. Well, why am I losing coastal lands in the world? So Kevin 51:55 yeah, and I'm no climate denier. But here's what I think Earth doesn't give a shit. Humans are here not earth will be here whether or not there is lots of water lots of land uninhabitable doesn't care humans aren't Earth problem is nothing that humans can do to really piss off Earth, whatever. So it's really a matter of our own existence. Do you do this human humanity went to keep Earth habitable or not. And if we don't want to, or can't, or it's too late or whatever, we have to go to Mars. But let's take a step back. You're telling me we have a better chance on Mars? After all the things we just talked about, Oh, Bob 52:33 no, no, no, no. I'm not saying we have a better chance of seeing more major cities relocated from the coast because they're, they're underwater. Yes, in our lifetime, then us getting to Mars in our lifetime. Kevin 52:45 But given that, given the horrible tragedy of that, that's still like, I'd rather take that over. All the things we just talked about going to Mars that we'd have to overcome. Bob 52:56 Oh, yeah. But there's still camps that say we have to go to Mars because Those things. Kevin 53:01 That's fine, Bob 53:02 sizable camp. I think it would be neat. Kevin 53:05 But if you if I look at everything, like from a business, like, what's the business need here? What what's the business case? I'm going to mark, there isn't really a good one is there? Bob 53:17 Well, there's probably going to be a time in the very near future that that type of business venture could employ people that who otherwise would not be employed, because of the way we're going technologically as well. So Kevin 53:31 well, we have we have unlimited examples of companies that don't make money in the name of well, it would be cool if and why don't we try this? I just don't see the profit of going to Mars because of the enormous expense of just putting a single human being on that frickin planet is amazingly high. Bob 53:54 I will say that it won't become any kind of reality and Unless someone finds a way to make money from it Kevin 54:03 exactly. Oh, or, or we're in a race with the Russians or Chinese, which is more like that. Bob 54:10 That's what I said. The second camp was the people who said that we need to do it because we need to be first. Right? Have you watched that Apple the apple series for all mankind? Kevin 54:21 I don't think so. But do you have apple in Miami? No, I don't. So I guess I haven't. Bob 54:27 Okay. Basically, it's the premise is that we were second to the moon. And it's fictional. Oh, well, yeah. Cuz we were first. Kevin 54:38 I don't know if this is a conspiracy theory, like Flat Earth. Okay. Bob 54:43 It's like, um, it's very similar to man in the high castle. It's look at what life what life would be like if we lost the race to the moon. And then how, how everything cascades down from that it's about the space program in the States. How that was impacted by now. Being first. Okay, I guess it's kind of interesting. I like those premises. Kevin 55:05 So a large part of me believes the only reason we went to the moon wasn't because it was there. And it was hard. It's because the Russians were beating us in the space race pure and simple, right. Bob 55:18 Can you just do the rest of the episode with your SJ? Okay. Kevin 55:24 We choose to go to the moon, not because it's easy about because it's hard. Okay. Wow. That's right. That's on a podcast forever now. Okay. So, one of the last things that we talked about, we already touched on is power. So I can only think because solar power is kind of out. You're not gonna burn coal. You're not gonna have you might have methane there. But I think nuclear power would be the ideal choice, wouldn't it? Bob 55:54 I think for portability and relative ease of setup and something we're familiar with Yes, because everything else is very large scale. Yeah, everything's large and scale Kevin 56:06 the electrolysis if I mean, you're gonna need oxygen. And that takes me to like, okay, now you've let's assume we've overcome the impossible. And we have some infrastructure there. What sort of skill sets are we putting there? I'm thinking doctors, engineers, mechanics, security, what other kind of people Bob 56:28 it's almost going to have to be like a microcosm of every discipline we have in any thriving community, because you're going to need all those support staff. And then anytime where you can find multiple hat wearers, in those very specialized areas, they'll be worth their weight in some rare metal that we just go from Mars that somebody gets rich from. Kevin 56:48 So not that I'm volunteering to go to Mars, but when you're in the military, and they send you to, I don't know, the Middle East where there's nothing and you have to stand up a whole tent city and have internet and everything. You start start figuring out who's valuable and who's not. And I was in a communications unit and we had to wear those multiple hats. One thing that we weren't good as communicators was getting the generator running, keeping it running the the heavy equipment, so we had mechanics embedded with us. So I imagine you need some very specialized people you're not sending philosophers to Mars properly. You're not sending poets. You're sending blue collar, no, and they'd be the proverbial tits on a chicken. It's amazing. So, um, I think a lot of our I'm probably influenced a lot by our sci fi stuff where you have like, you know, security people, but But what I'm more thinking of you probably have martial law there, right? Hey, you quit fucking so and so quit trying to make a baby. You're gonna ruin the mission or whatever. Right? Yeah, I would think the military would be like the project managers. Just like the general, like, structure to it all. So yeah, military would be there. They'd be your security, police slash project managers. So in season two of Mars, they had two groups on that land on Mars One was like the UN version of colony and the other one was private, private enterprise. And so whenever the private enterprises do something, the UN people like, hey, you're not allowed to do that. Blah, blah, blah. And they would always reply, like the fuck we can't, we're private. Go fuck yourself. We can do whatever the fuck we want. Go ahead and stop it. Bob 58:34 Well, that brings up a really good question, though. And something we really haven't talked about, which is kind of why we started this topic, though. We will have any un presence, would we because it's going to be 100% commercial at this point. Kevin 58:50 We would well see, that's where it gets slippery because NASA government agency funds SpaceX, so there's You know, the old world the money really kind of controls Bob 59:03 everything. Do they fund a SpaceX or do they contract to SpaceX? Kevin 59:09 All right, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know. But somebody wrote a check. Bob 59:12 That's all I know. Right. But Ilan could most certainly, or more likely, you know, a basis or a Branson could go there with their own funding, and NASA would be cut out of it, like, almost like NASA scientists would be hired as consultants from the commercial enterprises. That's how kind of I see it. Kevin 59:34 So when we talk about starlink, we kind of talked about what happens is, if SpaceX goes out of business, and there's 40,000 satellites zipping around up there, and nobody's in control of them anymore. The government's gonna take that over, right? Bob 59:47 Or he sells them for pennies on the dollar to Jeff Bezos who's trying to do the same thing. Okay, I would like that to happen first, Kevin 59:54 my latest episode of Black Mirror sounds like this. Elon Musk died. SpaceX goes out of business. There's 200 colonists stuck on Mars haven't heard from Earth. They're not sure what's happening anymore. yada yada yada yada. So who rescues these people? Bob 1:00:14 I don't think anyone does. Kevin 1:00:15 Damn, that better be in my contract. I'm gonna be getting some life insurance there. Bob 1:00:20 So no, I think anybody who's making that trip for the foreseeable future and I'm talking like, you know, the better part of a quarter of a century they're not they're going to it's a one way mission. Nobody's coming back from there for a long time. Kevin 1:00:37 Dear, do you think it should be a one way mission period there is no come home figure it out. I mean, I'd be motivated if I'm there. Okay. There is no go home guys. Bob 1:00:46 Well, since we barely have a plan, well, we don't we don't have any methodology or plan to get there this point. I don't see the get home park coming for far, far past to get there. Kevin 1:00:59 So let's take that temperature. Can you you asked the question, will this happen in our lifetime? I think we agree not not yours or mine. Bob 1:01:07 Right? Yeah, totally agree with their Kevin 1:01:09 pick. Pick a number on the timeline. What year do you think will be there if at all? Bob 1:01:14 So we're at 2020 right now. Yeah, I would guess. Other so we're talking about first landing like six people in the smallest spaceship possible. Man has taken his first leak on Mars. When does that happen? 2080 Kevin 1:01:35 Okay, what technologies need to have all the things we talked about getting there? generating food, water, shelter, oxygen of all those things. What technology Do you feel is holding us back the most? Bob 1:01:56 I think the the the portability of reliable storage structures. I think that's like what it's you know, it's it's not. It's not an appear infrastructure thing. It's the ability to take something that needs to be at scale quickly after landing, but have it be portable enough to get there in one shipment. I think that's the biggest challenge, Kevin 1:02:19 basically, blast off an entire Moon or Mars base with crew and everything and we'll be able to land everything in place. Bob 1:02:29 I think you get a shortcut for the first trip, because you could make the ship somewhat sustainable for long enough maybe for the next people to get there. But you have to have some kind of architectural, you know, modularity, that it's simple to deploy and highly functional and environment that we don't know that much about. Kevin 1:02:50 I think it's the propulsion to get there. That's the biggest thing get us back six months. It's just seven months or longer getting there with certain launch but I think that's just crippling at this point. Bob 1:03:02 Yeah. But do you think I just don't know if that technology? I mean, that technology might be hundreds of years off to close that gap? Kevin 1:03:12 Well, the Mars show we've been talking about had a really cool concept. I just remind myself up. They have an orbital space station at Mars. That's the supply drop ship. So right so only Bob 1:03:24 one ship has the land basically. Right? Kevin 1:03:27 So you could send a barge, if you will, from Earth. Okay, so imagine the space station that we have right now. Hey guys, it's it's decommissioned. But you know what, it can hold a lot of shit. They can hold supplies. So what we're going to do is we're a packet full of stuff. And then we're going to attach rockets to it and then we're going to send it to Mars, and it's going to now orbit Mars. Now we're going to send humans to Mars, to the space station and we're just going to start by inhabiting the space station nobody goes down to earth yet or Mars yet Bob 1:03:56 just like we thing, but our space station. What's it max capacity 642 Yeah. Okay. Kevin 1:04:07 All right, it needs to grow a little bit. But let's, let's say we upscale that a little bit. We have a space station that's going around Mars, and then that's the supply closet, if you will. And then we can send you know, once once we establish a human presence around a Mars, we can then start with accuracy start going, Okay, we need to land supplies here. Now we can land humans there, we kind of take away a lot of the risk. I think Bob 1:04:32 it also takes away Yeah, it takes away a lot of the targeting oopsies too. Because you get into orbit you eventually dock with the space station. In theory, there's a shuttle that's much more easy to target and control getting back and we'll even one ways so that the trip that goes out there, there could be like a capsule that becomes the new thing that they just shoot down at the surface. Kevin 1:04:53 Yeah, and they have that so emergencies came up in the in the season and what they would do is they would radio to the channel. Nice, I think we're running the space station like, Hey, we need a whatever, whatever. So when you fly over that particular area, do a drop. And then you know those people get it. So I think that's actually one of the nicer things because if you send a rocket from Earth and you want it to land on Mars, I think you enter orbit first. That's normal. But why not have a more permanent presence in Mars orbit that you could, you know, use as a lifeboat if you will, for anyone who goes to the ground? Pretty much what the Apollo program did? Bob 1:05:31 Yeah, that's still I still think we're a good hundred years off. Kevin 1:05:36 I would agree. It's not gonna happen in my lifetime. I don't know if I can tell Jackson. My honest to god opinion because I don't think it'll happen in his lifetime either. I think we spend too much time on the, the possibility of the rocket I think we haven't spent enough time on the Okay, we're here now what? Because, you know, I just don't think we've thought about Emily's, they said it doesn't happen in the public very often. We've talked through a lot of the things here that could go wrong and that's a lot of weight lot of infrastructure, a lot of gear. And then we got humans, you know what if a human goes crazy whether they're they're gonna they're gonna incarcerated human have a prison on Mars? Bob 1:06:14 No way. They'll just zap them. Right. Kevin 1:06:16 I mean, that's probably what will happen. But you know, are you gonna go ahead and say that's your policy? Probably not. Yeah. fuck up, you're dead? By who's? Bob 1:06:27 I think that's an understood risk of the entirety of the trip. Kevin 1:06:30 Well, I that's why I think it's gonna be very militaristic. I mean, the military has come up, or has had these situations come up. So this isn't like new way of life for the military. That's why I think there comes a point where civilians can only do so much maybe the civilians can create the rockets, but you're gonna have to send the space force or whoever to actually man it. Bob 1:06:55 Well, tell Jackson to figure out what he thinks the biggest problem is and have that dude up and maybe it happens in his lifetime if he studies up. Unknown Speaker 1:07:04 Yeah, I'm not so optimistic, but I'll Kevin 1:07:07 tell them what you're about. Yeah. All right, what do we forget? Bob 1:07:13 I'm sure we forgot tons. But since we were kind of like, disclaimer, we're not scientists or mathematicians know we're billionaires are just two dudes bullshit about tech. Unknown Speaker 1:07:25 And today it was about space. Kevin 1:07:28 All right, good stuff, man. Unknown Speaker 1:07:29 Yeah. Remember, if you're still listening, Bob 1:07:34 do that like thing. Have your Spotify listener follow? I don't know what it is. That just helps us know who we're reaching. And you know what, you can always hit us up on Twitter. Kevin 1:07:46 Yes, and if you want to Bob and Kevin show sticker. I've actually sent a few internationally now and some domestically. 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Portrays the tragedy of the Apollo 1 fire from the perspective of its subsequent investigation by NASA and the US Congress. Its effects on key individuals are shown, including Harrison Storms of North American Aviation, Joseph Shea of NASA, astronaut Frank Borman charged with supporting NASA's investigation, and the widows of Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee. Episode 2 links: Apollo 1 Fire News Broadcast Apollo 1 Newsreel Frank Borman speaking about Apollo 1 Fire Apollo 1 Congressional Hearing Newsreel FTETTM Apollo 1 fire scene