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On Eavesdroppin' comedy podcast this week, Geordie and Michelle look at aliens, strange space debris and would-be martians… On the 1st of December, 1987, Philip Spencer (not his real name) went out into the fog on Ilkley Moor in Yorkshire, England, for an early-morning walk. Through the fog, he saw what he initially thought was a child with the long spindly limbs, oval eyes, a large head and strange proportions. On instinct, Philip snapped a picture of the strange child – and then things got weird. Listen now to discover why what happened next has made this story one of the UK's most baffling alien-abduction encounters (hint: contains missing time, hypnosis and a very reluctant witness). Geordie follows with a look at the dud that was the Mars One would-be space mission. Back in 2012, a Dutch space entrepreneur launched an exciting new proposal – he planned to send 100 people on a one-way trip to Mars to live out the rest of their days on the Red Planet. What's more, they'd all be on their very own reality TV show about the mission! Genius! Except that the whole idea turned out to be a turkey. Listen now to find out why! So pop on your headphones, grab a brown lemonade and join Geordie & Michelle for this week's episode, plus chit-chat about a weird space orb found in Buga, Matthew Brown the UFO whistleblower, banned baby names and more, plus a snippet from friend of the show, Serena Bobowski - only on Eavesdroppin' podcast. And remember, wherever you are, whatever you do, just keep Eavesdroppin'! *Disclaimer: We don't claim to have any factual info about anything ever and our opinions are just opinions not fact, sooorrrryyy! Don't sue us! Please rate, review, tell your friends and subscribe in all the usual places – we love it when you do! Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/eavesdroppinDo write in with your stories at hello@eavesdroppinpodcast.com or send us a Voice Note!Listen: www.eavesdroppinpodcast.com or https://podfollow.com/eavesdroppinYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqcuzv-EXizUo4emmt9PgfwFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/eavesdroppinpodcast#marsone #aliens #ilkleymoor #alienabduction #spacemission #supernatural #matthewbrownwhistleblower #ufos #spaceorb #buga #eavesdroppin #eavesdroppinpodcast #eavesdroppincomedypodcast #podcast #comedy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Honoring Jed the Fish, arcade games, Coachella band complaints, Mars One, and 1/3 Christmas!
Honoring Jed the Fish, arcade games, Coachella band complaints, Mars One, and 1/3 Christmas!
Karl and Erum reconnect with Eben Bayer, Board Chair at MyForest Foods, for a compelling follow-up conversation on the evolution of mycelium-based food products. Eben dives deep into the scaling journey of MyBacon, a plant-based bacon alternative created through solid-state fermentation using gourmet mushroom mycelium. From early experiments producing just six packs a week to now operating at multiple farms across North America and Europe, Eben outlines the technical, economic, and operational hurdles his team has overcome. Listeners will discover how MyForest Foods is pioneering a distributed, farm-based manufacturing model and why MyBacon is outpacing pork bacon in select markets. If you're curious about biomaterials, novel fermentation tech, or the practical future of sustainable food systems, this episode offers a front-row seat to the revolution.Grow Everything brings the bioeconomy to life. Hosts Karl Schmieder and Erum Azeez Khan share stories and interview the leaders and influencers changing the world by growing everything. Biology is the oldest technology. And it can be engineered. What are we growing?Learn more at www.messaginglab.com/groweverything Chapters:00:00:00 - Liftoff! Imagining the Future with Space Elevators00:00:15 - Back in Action: Your Favorite Bio-Futurists Return00:00:31 - Erum's Arctic Escape: Sauna Talks & Synbio Dreams00:02:27 - Biotech Bonding: Unexpected Encounters in the North00:04:39 - From Lava Fields to Lab Ideas: Iceland Inspires00:04:48 - Travel Hack: How ChatGPT Became Our Digital Tour Guide00:06:59 - Survival, Science & Synbio: Adventures at the Edge00:09:37 - Deep Dive: Oceans, Algae & the Blue Carbon Breakthrough00:12:29 - Enter Eben Bayer: Mycelium Magic and Fungi Futures00:24:22 - Farming the Future: A Global Mycelium Network Emerges00:25:13 - Teaming Up: Mycelium Hits the Mainstream Food Scene00:26:30 - Eco-Revolution: Why Fungi Might Just Save the Planet00:27:52 - What's Next? The Tasty Future of Bio-Engineered Foods00:29:35 - Fungi Meets Firmware: Mycelium, Tech & the Rise of Bio-AI00:30:51 - From Farm to Factory: The Scale-Up Challenge Conquered00:32:41 - Off-World Growth: Mycelium and the Final Frontier00:38:30 - Wrap-Up: Big Ideas, Bold Futures, and What's Coming NextLinks and Resources:MyForest FoodsEcovativeHotdogJudge on InstagramExtremophiles on Mars: One group of living things that may be able to survive these extreme conditions is lichens,Blue Carbon documentary- carbon dioxide that is absorbed from the atmosphere and stored in the ocean. Topics Covered: biomanufacturing, mycelium, biomaterials, ecovative, bacon, mycelium bacon, plant based foods. Have a question or comment? Message us here:Text or Call (804) 505-5553 Instagram / Twitter / LinkedIn / Youtube / Grow EverythingEmail: groweverything@messaginglab.comMusic by: NihiloreProduction by: Amplafy Media
If you ever dream of being able to see the future, this video is something just for you. Nowadays you don't need to be a psychic to predict the future, sometimes it's enough to just analyze the present. Here're the events that are planned to happen or will probably happen by the year 2050. #future #humanfuture #2050 Those of you who have "visiting all the countries in the world" on their bucket list, you'll have more work to do, since new countries are likely to appear on the political map of the world in 2019. Tesla will manufacture more than half a million cars for the first time in the history of the company. By 2020, more than 6,1 billion people will be using smartphones all over the world. In more than half of the USA, solar energy will become more economical than usual electricity. By 2025, the population of Earth will reach 8 billion people. People's life expectancy will get longer and there will be 50 times more centenarians. By 2030, the area of the Arctic ice sheet will get extremely small. People will mass-produce artificial blood for transfusions. By 2035, solar activity will decrease by 1 percent, and as a result, Earth will experience a mini ice age. People will be able to widen the range of their senses using implants that will detect more signals such as X-rays, radio waves and others. By 2038, world population will reach the number of 9 billion people. In 2045, brain implants that people will use both for entertainments and for curing disabilities will become available. In 2050, first colonists might come to the Red Planet as a part of the Mars One project. The population of big cities will reach 6,3 billion people. Music: https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary/... TIMESTAMPS Year 2019 1:08 Year 2020 2:26 Year 2024 3:40 Year 2025 4:16 Year 2026 5:10 Year 2028 6:15 Year 2029 6:58 Year 2030 7:41 Year 2033 8:08 Year 2035 8:46 Year 2036 9:29 Year 2038 9:57 Year 2045 10:28 Year 2050 11:08 Subscribe to Bright Side : https://goo.gl/rQTJZz ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our Social Media: Facebook: / brightside Instagram: / brightgram 5-Minute Crafts Youtube: https://www.goo.gl/8JVmuC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more videos and articles visit: http://www.brightside.me/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Nach Mitternacht zeigen sich die abnehmende Mondsichel und der Mars am Nordosthimmel. Es gibt Raumfahrtfans, die auf Siedlungen auf dem Roten Planeten hoffen. Doch ein Projekt mit Einwegreisen zum Mars scheiterte kläglich. Lorenzen, Dirk www.deutschlandfunk.de, Sternzeit
Ce matin, avec Valentin Fargier, on s'envole vers les étoiles avec "Mars One", un projet fou qui ambitionnait d'envoyer des humains coloniser la planète rouge dès 2032. Tous les matins de l'été sur RTL, à 5h40, Valentin Fargier vous raconte l'histoire d'un projet fou (un disque, un film, un monument...) qui ne s'est finalement pas fait, qui est resté "dans les cartons". Des histoires incroyables qui ne sont jamais parvenues jusqu'à vos oreilles...
Welcome back to another episode of The Barber's Brief. A segment where we cover news that caught our eye, a marketing moment where we highlight a case study, and our ad of the week. We hope you enjoy the show! Our Hosts: Follow our updates here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sleeping-barber/ Get in touch with our hosts: Marc Binkley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbinkley/ Vassilis Douros: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilisdouros/ In The News: Nike ramps up innovation to combat sales slip in ‘transition year' Link: https://www.marketingweek.com/nike-accelerate-innovation/ Ritson on Creativity - WARC Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mark-ritson-on-creativity-brand-and-the-need-for/id1563243327?i=1000660441127 The Boston Marathon Got a New Logo and Runners are Not Happy https://www.fastcompany.com/91148937/the-boston-marathon-got-a-new-logo-and-runners-are-not-happy Get ready for the Echo-Verse: New Rules of Cross-Channel Marketing https://hbr.org/2024/06/the-new-rules-of-marketing-across-channels Marketing Moment The Field Trip to Mars - 2018 Video: https://youtu.be/FIS_JkNnCeI?si=vglmjRBUtyoXXs2O Lockheed Martin, a Global Security and Aerospace company wanted to Inspire interest in Mars exploration and STEM education. The Brief: Space was/is experiencing a cultural Renaissance to rival the excitement of the Space Race. SpaceX, Virgin Galactic and Mars One, and movies recaptured the general public's imagination with space. It is estimated that humans will set foot on Mars within two decades, making STEM education more important than ever. So they set out to inspire the next generation of deep space explorers, creating a VR experience that shows them what it's like to visit Mars Solution & Cultural Context: They rendered 200 sq. mi of Mars' surface based on real Mars geography and mapped it to D.C streets. Then we bought a school bus. The bus was gutted and equipped with custom electric glass that switched from transparent to opaque, plus 4K transparent LCDs, while preserving its school bus appearance. Integrating our Mars landscape, custom screens, GPS, accelerometer, magnetometer and laser velocimeter, the bus became a VR headset. When it moved, Mars moved and when it turned, it turned on Mars. Impact: Generated extensive social media buzz and media (NBC, ABC, and Fox, Engadget, Futurism and Digital Trends) coverage. Trended on Facebook globally for over 24 hours. Featured in major news outlets and tech sites. In a week after it's debut, Lockheed Martin saw a 3000% increase in Mars-related conversations post-launch, 260% more than spaceX. Videos of the experience garnered over 6 million views. References: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/spotlights/out-of-this-world-an-inside-look-at-the-making-of-field-trip-to-mars https://www.dandad.org/awards/professional/2017/direct/26343/the-field-trip-to-mars/ Audience Q&A (2-3 minutes): Jon Lorenzini post - Do you know marginal ROAS is better than incremental or regular ROAS? https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jonathanlorenzini_marketingscience-marketinganalytics-marketing-activity-7209922721428729858-wi0B
Etter noen uker med tekniske problemos er det tid for et gledelig gjenhør med Frokostgjengen! Er du cowboy, pirat eller ninja? Hva skjedde egentlig med Mars One? Var gamle kontaktannonser i avisa bedre enn Tinder? Og hvilken filmserie kommer musikksjangeren Jizz fra?Frokost hører du live på Radio Nova, alle hverdager fra 7-9!
Wir reden etwas über Mars One .... also die Mission die letztes Jahr die ersten Siedler auf dem Mars landen .. ähhh sollte .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrxR3_z0x4 https://www.ingenieur.de/technik/fachbereiche/raumfahrt/mission-fehlgeschlagen-ist-mars-one-endgueltig-geschichte/ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One Must watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJsPvmFixU https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19720005243 https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19720005243/downloads/19720005243.pdf Links für Feedback: Twitter: https://twitter.com/OchmennoP/ Mastodon: @ochmennoPODCAST@literatur.social Email:ochmennopodcast@gmail.com Bewerten: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/och-menno/id1470581030
Rien ne laissait penser que la vie était possible sur les sommets des volcans de la Puna d'Atacama, au Chili et en Argentine. Et pourtant, Jay Storz, biologiste à l'Université du Nebraska, à Lincoln, et ses collègues chercheurs, ont fait une étrange découverte sur ces terres dont la surface avoisine celle de Mars. Ils ont parcouru 21 sommets, dont 18 à plus de 6 000 mètres d'altitudes, et ont trouvé 13 souris momifiées, accompagnées pour certaines de restes squelettiques d'autres congénères.Certaines souris momifiées avaient au plus quelques décennies, selon le communiqué. D'autres auraient maximum 350 ans. Il s'agirait d'une espèce pourtant connue pour vivre à des altitudes plus basses dans la région. Les experts partaient du postulat que la vie des mammifères n'était tout simplement pas possible sur ces terres à plus de 6 000 mètres, rapporte l'université du Nebraska. "Ce qui est le plus surprenant dans notre découverte, c'est que des mammifères pourraient vivre sur les sommets des volcans dans un environnement aussi inhospitalier et semblable à celui de Mars", explique Jay Storz. En effet, l'atmosphère fine et les températures glaciales des volcans de la Puna d'Atacama en font, à ce jour, l'environnement terrestre qui se rapproche le plus de la surface de Mars.Plusieurs expéditions y ont d'ailleurs été entreprises, comme celle du Dr Horodysky, géologue et candidate astronaute américaine, qui avait pour but d'entraîner "des candidats du programme d'astronautes commerciaux PoSSUM et une candidate du projet MARS ONE pré-sélectionnée pour partir définitivement sur Mars dans les dix années à venir". Mais alors, comment les mammifères peuvent-ils vivre dans un monde stérile et rocheux, dominé par la neige et la glace ? Comment peuvent-ils résister à des températures ne dépassant jamais les 0°C et à un taux d'oxygène largement inférieur à la moyenne ? Des travaux sont en cours à l'université du Nebraska pour le découvrir. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.
Rien ne laissait penser que la vie était possible sur les sommets des volcans de la Puna d'Atacama, au Chili et en Argentine. Et pourtant, Jay Storz, biologiste à l'Université du Nebraska, à Lincoln, et ses collègues chercheurs, ont fait une étrange découverte sur ces terres dont la surface avoisine celle de Mars. Ils ont parcouru 21 sommets, dont 18 à plus de 6 000 mètres d'altitudes, et ont trouvé 13 souris momifiées, accompagnées pour certaines de restes squelettiques d'autres congénères. Certaines souris momifiées avaient au plus quelques décennies, selon le communiqué. D'autres auraient maximum 350 ans. Il s'agirait d'une espèce pourtant connue pour vivre à des altitudes plus basses dans la région. Les experts partaient du postulat que la vie des mammifères n'était tout simplement pas possible sur ces terres à plus de 6 000 mètres, rapporte l'université du Nebraska. "Ce qui est le plus surprenant dans notre découverte, c'est que des mammifères pourraient vivre sur les sommets des volcans dans un environnement aussi inhospitalier et semblable à celui de Mars", explique Jay Storz. En effet, l'atmosphère fine et les températures glaciales des volcans de la Puna d'Atacama en font, à ce jour, l'environnement terrestre qui se rapproche le plus de la surface de Mars. Plusieurs expéditions y ont d'ailleurs été entreprises, comme celle du Dr Horodysky, géologue et candidate astronaute américaine, qui avait pour but d'entraîner "des candidats du programme d'astronautes commerciaux PoSSUM et une candidate du projet MARS ONE pré-sélectionnée pour partir définitivement sur Mars dans les dix années à venir". Mais alors, comment les mammifères peuvent-ils vivre dans un monde stérile et rocheux, dominé par la neige et la glace ? Comment peuvent-ils résister à des températures ne dépassant jamais les 0°C et à un taux d'oxygène largement inférieur à la moyenne ? Des travaux sont en cours à l'université du Nebraska pour le découvrir. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
For years, the possibility of a manned mission to Mars has filled our newsfeeds and imaginations, but what actually needs to be done to make that dream a reality? In this episode of The Curious Cosmos, Derrick Pitts is joined by science writer Mary Roach discuss her book, Packing for Mars, and all the important (and often off-kilter) work being done to prepare for that mission here on Earth!Check out Packing for Mars: The Curious Science of Life in the Void, and Mary's other booksExplore the Antarctic Search for Meteorites furtherCheck out the Mars500 project from the European Space Agency, where participants simulated a tip to Mars in Moscow.Learn more about Peggy Whitson, the American record holder for most time in space!Learn more about the failed Mars One project, which promised to colonize Mars via a reality TV show
Human spaceflight to Mars presents unique psychological challenges. An interplanetary journey to Mars, as proposed by Mars-One, would entail an isolation and confinement period of up to nine months during the voyage, followed by a potentially permanent stay on an alien planet millions of miles away from Earth. These conditions can give rise to a host of psychological issues, including but not limited to loneliness, depression, anxiety, and interpersonal conflicts. The isolation from friends, family, and familiar surroundings can intensify feelings of loneliness and can lead to depression. The confinement of the spacecraft, with limited room to move and a lack of privacy, can create tension and conflict among the crew. Prolonged periods of monotony, broken only by high-stress situations, can cause cognitive and behavioral issues. Furthermore, communication delays with Earth - ranging up to 24 minutes round trip - can create feelings of isolation and frustration, and can challenge the crew's problem-solving abilities, as immediate support or advice will not be available. Upon arrival on Mars, the astronauts will be faced with a barren and harsh environment, drastically different from Earth. This alien landscape, combined with the realization of a permanent stay, may further exacerbate feelings of isolation, homesickness, and stress. Therefore, astronauts on a mission to Mars will require a unique blend of skills to cope with these challenges, including technical and scientific expertise, excellent problem-solving skills, and robust psychological resilience. The selection, training, and support of these pioneers will be paramount to the success of the mission and the well-being of the crew.
Mars-One, the Dutch not-for-profit venture launched in 2011, promised to bring humanity one step closer to the dream of colonizing Mars. The founders, Bas Lansdorp and Arno Wielders, envisioned a future where humans would not just visit, but inhabit the Red Planet. However, despite the grand ambition, the Mars-One mission ran aground, unable to overcome a multitude of challenges. This article delves into the obstacles, missteps, and ultimate failure of the Mars-One mission, shedding light on the complexities of such an ambitious endeavor. The Grand Plan Mars-One's goal was simple yet audacious: to establish a permanent human settlement on Mars. The mission was to be a one-way trip, sending humans to Mars without the provision of a return journey. This removed the need for a sophisticated and risky return voyage, reducing the overall complexity and cost. However, as innovative as the plan was, it also laid the foundation for some of the challenges that would eventually unravel the Mars-One mission. Financial Hurdles: The Six Billion Dollar Challenge A glaring obstacle to Mars-One's plans was the substantial financial requirements. The mission's cost was estimated at a whopping six billion dollars. Mars-One aimed to raise these funds through a mix of sponsorships, media rights, crowdfunding, and private investments. However, as the mission progressed, it became evident that the organization was struggling to generate the necessary capital. The idea to fund a significant part of the mission through the sale of media rights, turning the astronaut selection process and subsequent life on Mars into a reality show, received mixed reactions. Critics argued it trivialized the serious nature of space exploration and carried ethical implications. Meanwhile, potential sponsors and investors were hesitant, aware of the high risks associated with the mission. Technological and Logistical Shortcomings The Mars-One plan was predicated on the belief that existing technology could be used to establish a human settlement on Mars. However, the mission was dependent on several unproven and yet-to-be-developed technologies, including life-support systems capable of long-term operation in the harsh Martian environment, and effective measures to protect astronauts from harmful space radiation.
Episode 81: Mars One Hi queeros! Welcome back to the pod! This month we are discussing the 2022 Brazilian film Mars One, which can be streamed on Netflix. It follows a Black family in the early days after Bolsonaro's election, which is the background noise to their daily lives. The parents work in the service industry, the tween brother is a soccer prodigy but is actually interested in joining the now-defunct Mars One mission to colonize Mars, and the daughter is in law school and also hecka queer and wants to move in with her girlfriend. Tune in to hear how much both Alicia and Sarah enjoyed this understated but very absorbing movie, which they recommend watching! Enjoy bbs! Further reading: Mars One Wikipedia page IndieWire review by Jude Dry
Larry Mantle and KPCC film critics Christy Lemire and Wade Major review this weekend's new movie releases in theaters, streaming, and on demand platforms. FilmWeek: ‘M3GAN,' ‘January 6th,' ‘The Invisible Extinction,' ‘Alcarras' And More (0:15) “M3GAN,” Wide Release “January 6th,” Streaming on Discovery+; Special airing on CNN this Saturday at 5pm PST/8pm EST “The Hatchet Wielding Hitchhiker,” Streaming on Netflix January 10 “The Invisible Extinction,” Laemmle Monica Film Center[Santa Monica] & Available on Apple TV “Landlocked,” On Digital & VOD “Alcarras,” Laemmle Monica Film Center[Santa Monica] & Laemmle Glendale; Streaming on MUBI February 24 “Mars One,” Streaming on Netflix “The Old Way,” In Select Theaters; On Digital & On Demand January 13 “Last Resort,” Laemmle Glendale; Available on VOD January 10 “Candy Land,” Lumiere Music Hall[Beverly Hills]; On Demand ‘But Have You Read The Book?' Explores The Art Of Faithfully (Or Not) Adapting A Book To Film (31:49) Studios have adapted novels since the start of film itself, but how closely do the films follow their source material? In But Have You Read the Book? by Kristen Lopez, from Turner Classic Movies & Running Press; on-sale March 7, 2023 but available for pre-order now, film buffs and literature lovers alike are treated to 52 cinema classics and the literary works that served as their inspiration, such as: ‘To Kill a Mockingbird,' ‘The Last Picture Show,' ‘Blade Runner,' ‘The Princess Bride,' ‘Goodfellas,' ‘If Beale Street Could Talk' and so many more. Joining us today on AirTalk to discuss her new book “But Have You Read The Book? 52 Literary Gems That Inspired Our Favorite Films” is Kristen Lopez, film editor for The Wrap.
M3GAN! Let's talk about it, and the other new flicks this week!
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Several storms are rolling across California, bringing intense wind and flooding. They'll replenish but not totally fill reservoirs due to long-standing drought. California Congressman Kevin McCarthy has lost eight bids for House speaker in three days. The gridlock has thrown Congress into disarray. Liberal cities in blue states are the epicenters of the country's growing homelessness crisis because not enough affordable housing is being built, says one Atlantic staff writer. Critics review the latest film releases: “M3gan,” “Alcarràs,” “Mars One,” and “A Man Called Otto.”
I 2012 går organisasjonen Mars One ut med en nyhet som får verden til å sperre opp øynene. Om bare 12 år skulle de sende folk til Mars for aller første gang, uten å gi dem en mulighet til å vende tilbake til jorda igjen. Der skulle de nøye utvalgte astronautene etablere en utenomjordisk koloni og leve lykkelig alle sine dager, mens jordens beboere koste seg med det storslåtte reality-programmet som fulgte med. Men nå, bare ett år før den planlagte avgangen er det helt stille fra innsiden av Mars One. Hva skjedde? Hør episoden i appen NRK Radio
I 2012 går organisasjonen Mars One ut med en nyhet som får verden til å sperre opp øynene. Om bare 12 år skulle de sende folk til Mars for aller første gang, uten å gi dem en mulighet til å vende tilbake til jorda igjen. Der skulle de nøye utvalgte astronautene etablere en utenomjordisk koloni og leve lykkelig alle sine dager, mens jordens beboere koste seg med det storslåtte reality-programmet som fulgte med. Men nå, bare ett år før den planlagte avgangen er det helt stille fra innsiden av Mars One. Hva skjedde? Hør episoden i appen NRK Radio
On this episode, we take some time to discuss the annoucement surround dearMoon as we now know the crew selection! These are exciting times for the abundant opportunities for civilians to go to Space. These are also dark and complex times, and some of the online STEM community offered criticism and comparisons to Mars One. To me, summoning the Mars One mission is like awarding someone the Darwin Award - for extreme cases only, and not to be given out lightly. Let's crack down this confusingly human response by discussing WHAT the dearMoon mission is and WHY its happening. We'll then discuss WHO the lucky chosen 8 were to join Yusaku Maezawa around the Moon and back. And we will close with our collectiong of criticism, outrageous and justified. I will even share my thoughts on how I felt hearing that 8 people (one of which being a famous space content creator) are officially going to the moon! This is a great mission and these 9 crew members will have the journey of a lifetime! Our mission is to spread love and spread science - and that's where this podcast comes from! Let's be the best version of ourselves and fight through the challenges together - there is enough room in the universe for all of us. Much love to each and every one of you! Happy Holidays - Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and live long and prosper https://dearmoon.earth/ We'd like to thank our sponsors: - Manscaped - Estes Rockets - AG3D Printing @todayinspacepod on Instagram/Twitter @todayinspace on TikTok /TodayInSpacePodcast on Facebook Have a great week! Support the podcast: • Get 10% OFF at Estes Rockets (no engines/sails) with the promo code IN_ALEX • Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code SPACE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod • Buy a 3D printed gift from our shop - ag3dprinting.etsy.com • Get a free quote on your next 3D printing project at ag3d-printing.com • Donate at todayinspace.net
Alyssa Carson is a space enthusiast, Astrobiology undergraduate student at the Florida Institute of Technology, author of “So You Want to Be An Astronaut”, and has spoken at multiple TED talks. Alyssa, now 21 years old, has attended Space Camp 7 times, Space Academy 3 times, Robotics Academy once, and was the youngest to graduate from Advanced Space Academy. She was also the first person in the world to attend all 3 NASA Space Camps, and the first to complete NASA's Passport program by visiting 14 NASA Centres across the US. She has since been selected as one of seven ambassadors representing Mars One, a mission seeking to establish a human colony on Mars in 2030. Alyssa is also passionate about education and spends many hours speaking to students in schools across North America, inspiring them to get involved in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics. In this episode, you can hear Alyssa (or “Blueberry”, as per her call sign) discuss her lifelong goal of getting to Mars, what Mars has to offer us as a species, and what greater space exploration might reveal about how we can improve life and ecosystems here on earth. Learn more about Alyssa: https://nasablueberry.com/about/ Buy Alyssa's book “So You Want to Be an Astronaut”: https://www.amazon.ca/So-You-Want-Be-Astronaut/dp/173135794X Watch Alyssa's TED talk: https://youtu.be/_VhmI11ToiE This episode is sponsored by RBC. ___ What is Impact in the 21st Century? Impact in the 21st Century is a podcast created by Simbi Foundation, a non-profit organization working to support the next 3.5 million refugee learners with solar-powered classrooms called BrightBoxes. This podcast celebrates the impactful work being done around the globe, and shares the stories of the inspiring individuals who are behind it. Who hosts Impact in the 21st Century? Aaron Friedland is a National Geographic Explorer, PhD Candidate in Econometrics at UBC, Executive Director of Simbi Foundation, and innovator of the BrightBox solution and the unique reading platform Simbi. Stream Impact in the 21st Century on your favourite streaming platform: Apple Podcasts Spotify Google podcasts Learn more about our podcast at www.simbifoundation.org/podcast
The film Joyland is set in Lahore and tells the story of Haider, a married man who falls in love with the transgender dancer Biba. It's the first Pakistani film to premiere at the Cannes Film Festival and it won the Jury Prize as well as the Queer Palm prize. It has also been selected as the Pakistani entry for Best International Feature Film at the Academy Awards. Despite having a standing ovation at Cannes, the film has had a more controversial reaction in Pakistan itself. Originally cleared for release, that decision was then overturned. However the film is now out in cinemas in Pakistan, although remains banned in the Punjab. Tina Daheley speaks to Joyland's writer and director Saim Sadiq and film critic Kamran Jawaid. Brazilian director and screenwriter Gabriel Martins took inspiration from his own childhood experience when he made his new film Mars One. It tells the story of a working-class Black Brazilian family adjusting to life after the election of President Jair Bolsanaro. Like Joyland, it has also been selected as its country's submission for Best International Feature Film at the next Academy Awards. Lone Scherfig is a Danish film-maker best known for her romantic comedies including An Education and One Day. She talks about the film that changed her - Austrian director Michael Haneke's 2009 German-language film The White Ribbon. It is a movie with a troubling message about the history of Europe and one that inspires her to ask big, important questions in her own work. (Photo: A still from Joyland. Credit: Studio Soho)
Actors Sue Ann Pien, Rick Glassman and Albert Rutecki visit Google to discuss the Amazon Original series As We See It. The show follows three roommates on the autism spectrum, as they strive to get and keep jobs, make friends, fall in love, and navigate the strange world of adulthood in a world that eludes them. Through her journey of understanding what it means to be on the autism spectrum, Sue Ann Pien has welcomed a greater acceptance of what makes her unique, and the freedom to express that. She followed her myriad dreams through Hollywood and beyond, having worked with Academy and Emmy award winners, presented for a Nobel Laureate and U.S. Secretary of State on climate change solutions, and even gained global attention as a Mars One candidate. Rick Glassman is a Los Angeles-based stand-up comedian, writer, and actor, Glassman's notable credits include a leading role in the NBC ensemble sitcom, Undateable, as well as playing Harold Ramis in David Wain's National Lampoon biopic, A Futile and Stupid Gesture. He also wrote, directed, and starred in an award-winning five-episode series, The Sixth Lead, based on his experience starring on Undateable. Before joining As We See It, Albert Ruteck appeared in the web series Aged Fruit. As an adolescent, Rutecki was diagnosed on the autism spectrum, and is excited to portray those characters authentically. Visit http://g.co/TalksAtGoogle/AsWeSeeIt to watch the video.
Dr. Adriana Marais is a theoretical physicist & technologist who's dedicated her career to studying off-world settlements in preparation for the colonization of Mars. Find Dr. Adriana Marais Online:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adriana__marais/Twitter: https://twitter.com/adrianamaraisLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriana-marais-aa844822/ Referenced:Proudly Human: https://proudlyhuman.com/Off-World Project YouTube Chanel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQNRwLedJqVyHduRVK64jgWe Get Real AF Podcast Credits:Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue RobinsonVanessa AlavaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessahalava/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vanessahalava/Twitter: https://twitter.com/vanessahalava Sue RobinsonLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-robinson-29025623/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/memyselfandfinds/Twitter: https://twitter.com/sociallysue_Audio Producer/Editor: Sam McleanInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mcleansounds/Website: www.inphase.bizAudio Music Track Title: Beatles UniteArtist: Rachel K. CollierYouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiHnYgtOn8u9YovYplMeXcwInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/rachelkcollier/Website: https://www.rachelkcollier.com Intro Voice-Over Artist: Veronica HortaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veronicahorta/Cover Artwork Photo Credit: https://unsplash.com/@alicemoore We Get Real AF Podcast OnlineInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wegetrealaf/Twitter: https://twitter.com/wegetrealafFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/wegetrealaf/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wegetrealafWebsite: https://wegetrealaf.comThis episode is part of the Summer Throwback series - a re-release of favorite WeGRAF episodes. The We Get Real AF podcast is a production of MicDrop Creative, telling inclusive stories through film and media.Support the show
Hi Sandman, in light of the recent Matt Taylor incident I've wanted to ask you how do you see the future of space exploration and new discoveries? Because if anything, it was space exploration that should have given men the opportunity to be free of the presence and influence of women. An opportunity to do what they do best- build highways for mankind's next big step. In recent times there's an obvious pattern repeating itself. Men have the initiative, do absolutely most of the work, but their white knight PC trained minds tell them they should include women in their successes too. A perfect example is project Mars One. Even though the majority of applicants were men, the program's creator Bas Lansdorp insisted that the mission must have a 50:50 gender ratio. He dismissed the principle of equality of opportunity in the name of equality of outcome, which means male applicants had it much harder to make it to the second round of selection due to gender quotas. And all this so there could be more vaginas in space. If he had insisted on equal numbers of women going for reproductive reasons I'd have sympathy for that, but that's not the case here. Sending women to Mars is mostly all in the name of good interplanetary reality TV. And even though it's understandable from a business perspective, at the end of the day it still all comes down to pure white knighting for the female sex. So the question is- will women continue to get equal glory for unequal toil? Will this lenient male attitude towards women continue to infinity and beyond? And I wouldn't agree with a possible sci fi solution you might suggest- technologically changing male and female nature in any way in the future.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/mgtow/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Jonathan Maberry is a New York Times bestselling author, 5-time Bram Stoker Award-winner, and comic book writer. He writes in multiple genres including suspense, thriller, horror, science fiction, fantasy, and action, for adults, teens and middle grade. His works include the Joe Ledger Thrillers, X-Files Origins: Devil's Advocate, Mars One, and many others. Several of his works are in development for film and TV. He is the editor of high-profile anthologies including The X-Files, V-Wars, Scary Out There, Out of Tune, Baker Street Irregulars, Nights of the Living Dead, and others. He lives in Del Mar, California. Find him online at www.jonathanmaberry.com
Stephen Wolfram answers general questions from his viewers about science and technology as part of an unscripted livestream series, also available on YouTube here: https://wolfr.am/youtube-sw-qa Questions include: How can I experiment with multi-way hyper-graphs in areas other than physics as a hobbyist computational explorer? I am interested in information science but have not taken computer science yet. - How can one convince the scientific community they have inadvertently accepted a false result, when the bug is subtle? - Can a virus mutate and replicate again and again in your own body while the immune system is fighting it? And every time the immune system figures out one form of it and kills it, there is already a new form replicating? A viral cat & mouse game, so to speak.. - Do you think that there could be some low-hanging fruit to be collected in biology? I feel like all the smartest people chose to study physics or math and I wonder if more should go into biology - What techniques do you use to memorize information when studying in such broad fields? Thank You! - Do you have any opinions to why "Mars One" failed? They went bankrupt in - Mars One had a massive recruitment drive since 2012'ish for people to go and colonize to Mars by 2023. - How do we know that gravity is not a "pushing force" instead of a pulling force? Do we for certain know that "dark matter" is not caused by shielding of this pushing force; "Dark matter" being an artifact in this case and not a real thing* - If time stops in a black hole, does that mean all matter in the black hole stops aging? - Why do we need to super-cool materials (for superconductors or quantum systems); why can't we drive them mechanically at set frequency, so "cool" them preferentially in one direction? - What is the difference between science and technology and how do they complement each other?
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In this episode, we hear from Dr. Dianne McGrath, a sustainability expert, TEDx speaker, and prior candidate for the Mars One mission. Utilizing her diverse skill set, Dr. McGrath is committed to refining our approach to the sustainability of resources on a global scale. Dr. McGrath joins us to touch on topics such as: The importance of being mindful of the materials we use to package products. The environmental impact of food waste. What her research consisted of at the Mars Desert Research Station. How circular economies can play a role in innovating sustainable communities? Offer: This episode is sponsored by Viome. Use the code GENIUS to get an extra $20 off on Health Intelligence Test. Check it out now: Viome What is the future of sustainability? Can we solve the world's problems from outer space? Tune in now to find out more! You can learn about Dr. McGrath and her work by clicking here. Episode also available on Apple Podcast: http://apple.co/30PvU9C
David Harris Ebenbach is a U.S. writer of fiction and poetry, a teacher, and an editor. He is the author of nine books, and he is the recipient of the Drue Heinz Literature Prize, the Juniper Prize and the Patricia Bibby Award. Ebenbach's first science fiction novel, How to Mars, was published in 2021 David's homepage: https://www.davidebenbach.com Buy How to Mars direct from Tachyon Press: https://tachyonpublications.com/product/how-to-mars/ David's video about How To Mars: https://youtu.be/SVO-8Pkvz7E David has also published the following: Between Camelots. University of Pittsburgh Press. 2005. ISBN 978-0-8229-4268-9. (short stories) Into the Wilderness. Washington Writers' Publishing House. 2012. ISBN 9780931846656. (short stories) The Guy We Didn't Invite to the Orgy and other stories. University of Massachusetts Press. 2017. ISBN 978-1-62534-261-4. (short stories) Miss Portland. Orison Books. 2017. ISBN 978-0-9964397-1-8 (novel) Thanks to the following contributors from FreeSound.org: Rocket shoot 001.wav by Cydon
David Ebenbach is a U.S. writer of fiction and poetry, a teacher, and an editor. He is the author of nine books, and he is the recipient of the Drue Heinz Literature Prize, the Juniper Prize and the Patricia Bibby Award. Ebenbach's first science fiction novel, How to Mars, was published in 2021 David's homepage: https://www.davidebenbach.com Buy How to Mars direct from Tachyon Press: https://tachyonpublications.com/product/how-to-mars/ David's video about How To Mars: https://youtu.be/SVO-8Pkvz7E David has also published the following: Between Camelots. University of Pittsburgh Press. 2005. ISBN 978-0-8229-4268-9. (short stories) Into the Wilderness. Washington Writers' Publishing House. 2012. ISBN 9780931846656. (short stories) The Guy We Didn't Invite to the Orgy and other stories. University of Massachusetts Press. 2017. ISBN 978-1-62534-261-4. (short stories) Miss Portland. Orison Books. 2017. ISBN 978-0-9964397-1-8 (novel) Thanks to the following contributors from FreeSound.org: Rocket shoot 001.wav by Cydon Bone Crunch by Clearwavsound SFX Ambiance: Electrical Hum by trullilulli
David Ebenbach is a U.S. writer of fiction and poetry, a teacher, and an editor. He is the author of nine books, and he is the recipient of the Drue Heinz Literature Prize, the Juniper Prize and the Patricia Bibby Award. Ebenbach's first science fiction novel, How to Mars, was published in 2021 David's homepage: https://www.davidebenbach.com Buy How to Mars direct from Tachyon Press: https://tachyonpublications.com/product/how-to-mars/ David's video about How To Mars: https://youtu.be/SVO-8Pkvz7E If you're curious about the real life Mars One project to send people on a one way journey to Mars, you can find it here: https://www.mars-one.com David has also published the following: Between Camelots. University of Pittsburgh Press. 2005. ISBN 978-0-8229-4268-9. (short stories) Into the Wilderness. Washington Writers' Publishing House. 2012. ISBN 9780931846656. (short stories) The Guy We Didn't Invite to the Orgy and other stories. University of Massachusetts Press. 2017. ISBN 978-1-62534-261-4. (short stories) Miss Portland. Orison Books. 2017. ISBN 978-0-9964397-1-8 (novel) Thanks to the following contributors from FreeSound.org: Rocket shoot 001.wav by Cydon
David Ebenbach is a U.S. writer of fiction and poetry, a teacher, and an editor. He is the author of nine books, and he is the recipient of the Drue Heinz Literature Prize, the Juniper Prize and the Patricia Bibby Award. Ebenbach's first science fiction novel, How to Mars, was published in 2021 David's homepage: https://www.davidebenbach.com Buy How to Mars direct from Tachyon Press: https://tachyonpublications.com/product/how-to-mars/ David's video about How To Mars: https://youtu.be/SVO-8Pkvz7E David has also published the following: Between Camelots. University of Pittsburgh Press. 2005. ISBN 978-0-8229-4268-9. (short stories) Into the Wilderness. Washington Writers' Publishing House. 2012. ISBN 9780931846656. (short stories) The Guy We Didn't Invite to the Orgy and other stories. University of Massachusetts Press. 2017. ISBN 978-1-62534-261-4. (short stories) Miss Portland. Orison Books. 2017. ISBN 978-0-9964397-1-8 (novel) Thanks to the following contributors from FreeSound.org: Rocket shoot 001.wav by Cydon
What, they're still not back from Mars? Sean and Cody are on number two of a double-header (with last episode) as they take on Ridley Scott's popular 2015 science fiction drama. In The Martian, plucky and somewhat jerky botanist astronaut Mark Watney (Matt Damon) gets the Home Alone treatment as his shipmates accidentally leave him behind on Mars. It'll be four years until anyone from Earth can rescue him and he's only got 68 packets of potatoes and some freeze-dried poop. Wait, wasn't that the plot of the last film on the show? That's not a coincidence. Environmental issues discussed include the scientific and environmental accuracy of this film, radiation exposure for astronauts, Mars's toxic soil, and various schemes and scams involving real-life proposed trips to the fourth rock from the sun. Why do we keep changing our minds on whether liquid water exists on Mars or not? Are dust storms on Mars as epic as the way they're portrayed in this film? Why is growing anything in Martian soil a challenge at best, and a suicide mission at worst? Given the amount of radiation and cosmic ray exposure that astronauts in space and on Mars would receive over the course of a mission, would a realistic sequel to this film necessarily be The Martian 2: Watney Dies of Leukemia? What was Mars One and why was it a scam? Why is the idea of putting Libertarians in space alarmingly dangerous? What do all those different kinds of producers listed in a film's credits actually do? Why do so many movies involve rescuing Matt Damon as their plot premise? All these questions and more are sprouting from the rusty soil ready to be picked in this adventurous episode of Green Screen. Where you can find The Martian: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-martian The Martian (2015) on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3659388/ The Martian (2015) on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-martian/ Next Movie Up: Dr. Zhivago (1965) Additional Materials About This Episode
Highlights From Today's Episode:How “small” changes create a ripple effect that compounds into a much brighter future for the world.Connecting with the cultural aspect of food to enrich the experience of nourishing yourself.The psychology of waste and how to adopt a new approach mindset to the materials in your environment.Top 3 branding mistakes that cost organisations impact, trust and growth (and how to do the opposite).Unlocking the secrets of elite-level mental and physical biohacking to take your performance into the top 1% of 1%. https://www.linkedin.com/in/diannemcgrath/?originalSubdomain=auDianne McGrath - Guest Keynote & Event Speaker | ICMIhttps://www.facebook.com/Dianne.McGrath.Astronaut.CandidateMars -- the next quantum leap | Dianne McGrath | TEDxMelbourne - YouTube
This week, we talk with Mars One candidate and food sustainability warrior Dianne McGrath about her potential one-way mission to the red planet, Australia's battle against food wastage, and the miracle that is astronaut ice-cream! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Alyssa Carson tiene 19 años y a los 12 se convirtió en la primera persona en completar el NASA Passport Program al visitar los 14 centros de visitantes de la NASA. Pero ese no es su único récord, también es la primera astronauta mujer en tener una cita en Marte para el 2030 como embajadora de la misión Mars One, que busca establecer la primera colonia humana en este planeta. En este episodio, conversamos con ella sobre la importancia de descubrir la vocación y sobre qué es el sentimiento del fracaso y cómo superarlo. Conduce: Carlos Sluman. Belivers es un podcast original de Beliv dedicado a inspirar a cumplir metas y sueños.
My guest, Dr Adriana Marais is a Theoretical Physicist and Founder of Proudly Human, a project that is exploring resilient life, off earth. She is a Director at Foundation for Space Development and an astronaut candidate at Mars One.Adriana and her team are exploring the questions needed to be asked, should we live on a different planet. She has created survival conditions in some harsh environments across the globe. If you are interested in space and thinking outside the box, this conversation is for you.Get in touch with Alex to improve the performance of your team: Email: alex@alexmacphail.co.zaInstagram: @alexmacphail99Twitter: @AlexMacPhail1LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/flyingmogulWebsite: www.alexmacphail.co.za
D. Jeff Heggie www.JeffHeggie.com Heidi Anderson http://www.ecibfs.com The Jeff & Heidi Show Podcast Episode 021: Alyssa Carson “Always follow your dream and don't let anyone take it from you.” — Alyssa Carson Ever since she was a little girl, Alyssa Carson has had her heart set on the stars. At only 3 years old, she told her father, “Daddy, I want to be an astronaut, and be one of the people that go to Mars.” He had no idea that this seemingly offhand statement would actually become the birth of a meaningful lifelong endeavor. At just 19 years old, Alyssa's list of accomplishments include witnessing 3 Space Shuttle launches, attending Space Camp 7 times, Space Academy 3 times, Robotics Academy once, youngest to graduated Advanced Space Academy, and multiple Sally Ride Camps. In 2012 and 2013, she furthered her education at Space Camp Turkey and Space Camp Canada, becoming the first person to attend all three NASA Space Camps in the world. Alyssa is also the first to complete the NASA Passport program, visiting all 14 NASA Visitor's Centers stretching across 9 states. In January 2013, NASA invited her to be on the MER 10 panel in Washington DC to discuss future missions to Mars live on NASA TV. She was later selected as one of seven ambassadors representing Mars One, a mission to establish a human colony on Mars in 2030. In October of 2016 Alyssa was the youngest to be accepted and graduate the Advanced Possum Academy, officially making her certified to go to space and an astronaut trainee. More than anything, Alyssa is driven by an insatiable desire to live life to the fullest; to break through the ceiling of possibility and make a positive and lasting impact on the world. Check out her profile on LinkedIn for the most up to date accomplishments https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyssa-carson-87b874152/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
No guest this week, just a live QA with me. I counsel people on how to be patient when living on Elon Musk time, what is NASA interested in with the Moon, what's the purpose of human space exploration, and more. 01:23 Starship prototype failure 04:29 Elon Musk time 05:45 Any lunar surface mission objectives? 08:10 What's the purpose of human space exploration? 09:34 How long have I been running Universe Today? 11:45 Did Starship go higher than SLS will ever go? 13:48 Kirk or Picard? 14:44 Is there zero gravity in interstellar space? 17:25 New advanced telescope ideas coming? 19:38 Farewell Freeman Dyson 21:12 Titan, Enceladus or Europa? 22:38 Was WFIRST cancelled? 23:23 Steam powered rocket death 24:19 Is AI dangerous? 28:51 What would be certain evidence of life on another world? 31:35 How does NASA know how much fuel is on the Voyagers? 36:20 How do we know we're going to collide with Andromeda? 38:00 Favorite deep space objects 39:50 Could a Dyson Sphere around a black hole stop the heat death of the Universe? 41:22 What is the Great Attractor? 44:04 Would a laser weapon work in space? 46:59 Do we live in a simulation? 47:35 Is Betelgeuse getting brighter? 48:17 Where is Andromeda's supermassive black hole? 48:38 Influence of Big Canada Arm 50:00 Is the Universe Infinite or Finite? 52:37 What happened to MarsOne? 55:10 Is dark energy in doubt? 57:17 What if we learn that something wasn't true? Our Book is out! https://www.amazon.com/Universe-Today-Ultimate-Viewing-Cosmos/dp/1624145442/ Audio Podcast version: ITunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/universe-today-guide-to-space-audio/id794058155?mt=2 RSS: https://www.universetoday.com/audio What Fraser's Watching Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbJ42wpShvmkjd428BcHcCEVWOjv7cJ1G Weekly email newsletter: https://www.universetoday.com/newsletter Weekly Space Hangout: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-KklSGlCiJDwOPdR2EUcg/ Astronomy Cast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUHI67dh9jEO2rvK--MdCSg Support us at: https://www.patreon.com/universetoday More stories at: https://www.universetoday.com/ Twitch: https://twitch.tv/fcain Follow us on Twitter: @universetoday Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/universetoday Instagram - https://instagram.com/universetoday Team: Fraser Cain - @fcain / frasercain@gmail.com Karla Thompson - @karlaii / https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEItkORQYd4Wf0TpgYI_1fw Chad Weber - weber.chad@gmail.comSupport Universe Today Podcast
Space travel... yup.. that is what we are talking about in this episode! Feel free to ping us on social media with your thoughts on this episode or any of our others - Follow us on twitter at https://twitter.com/bobandkevinshow. Bob 0:00 You think I'd get this right eventually? Yeah, Kevin 0:03 well, yeah. So, yeah. So what he's talking about is we try to sync up our audio because we're still about 1050 miles apart. So we do this, like seance and ritual. And we hit the button at the same time. Bob 0:13 And you know what? Bear in mind, this is Episode 64. So we've been doing this for a pretty long time. Yeah, I can never remember it. It's like, what's that movie with? Two buddy flick? where it's like, are we going on three? Or is it three go? Right? It's a cop show. cop movie. Kevin 0:41 Of course. Okay. So Bob, approximately approximately 40 years ago. Bob You were born. Kevin Hmm, yeah, a little more than that. But approximately 40 years ago, we sent out a few probes. They were named Voyager one. Voyager to you want to guess how far away from Earth they are right now? Bob 1:08 40 years - they've made it past Saturn. Kevin 1:15 Oh no, they've left the solar system. Bob 1:17 Oh, well then I'm correct. Kevin 1:23 Answer Jeopardy what or who is somebody that's never been in my kitchen? Well, yes. I don't know. Ah, anyway, they're they're far, far away. throw me off. So today I would like to talk a little bit about about travel. Oh, no, we're not going alien ADAL space probes from South Park. We're just going space for weeks. Bob 1:51 But we did mention aliens, so maybe we'll get some less. Kevin 1:54 Yes, yes, absolutely. Unknown Speaker 1:57 You are listening to the Bob and Kevin show. We're Bob Baty Barr and Kevin miszewski. Each week we cover relevant tech and social issues related to technology. Our website is Bob and Kevin dot show. And our episodes can be found virtually on any Podcast Network. Be sure to follow us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Just search for Bob and Kevin show. Kevin 2:27 So, what I want to focus on isn't Star Trek type stuff where it's like want to be fantastical if we could sail the space and stars and visit all these m class planets and have sex with green aliens. Allah Captain Kirk Bob 2:44 right when we talk about the lesser known Starfleet vessels Kevin 2:53 supplemental Okay, so, I had a fan on here just turn it off. Hopefully they come through the audio but too late. Now Bob 3:00 Anyway, I'm surrounded by fans. Just kidding. Kevin 3:07 So I want to stay away from the fantastical side of space travel because we have Netflix CBS all access the new Picard series for Star Trek is streaming live now etc. So I don't really want to go that route. What I want to try to focus on Unknown Speaker 3:22 is this is the most fantastical time for space travel in the history of man. Kevin 3:28 In what way Bob 3:30 we have individual companies, not just governments in the space Unknown Speaker 3:34 travel game, that's so rather than fantastic. Kevin 3:38 Rather than apply the hashtag of fantastical to SpaceX, I will apply the hashtag of practical and that's actually what I want to talk about the practicality what is realistic, I think in terms of space travel in the year 2020. And looking ahead, because why my 11 year old son says Dad, why haven't we been to Mars yet? And I said, well, because it's really far away. It's hard, right? It's It's not easy. So why is it hard? Well, guess what? I've made a bunch of show notes here and outline, if you will, that I would like to share with you, Bob. How does that sound? Bob 4:14 It sounds great. But I already have a question. Yes. So we mentioned those probes that have been jettison away from Earth for 40 years, and they are past Saturn, in fact, well outside our solar system, and they've never Kevin 4:27 been in my kitchen. Bob 4:29 Okay, never even in my kitchen. Yes. They got there over the course of 40 years. However, there's no way that a person could go at the speed that those vehicles are traveling correct. Kevin 4:43 They can because humans just need to survive the G force. And g force only exists if there's acceleration. So let's say you're going 17,000 miles an hour, all you're actually doing is just orbiting Earth but you don't don't feel any g force because You're not accelerating, you're at a constant speed. Is that the speed of an orbiting vessel? Yeah, if you want to orbit around Earth, you have to go around 17,000 miles an hour. And actually, my son Jackson asked me, Why is that dad? And I tried to explain to him if he took a heavy object like a bolt or nut and tied it to a string, you spun it around. That bolt, actually is a pretty good model for this because that bolt wants to fly away from the center. However, it cannot fly fully away because of the string. Well, if we look at that, in terms of an earth model, the string is gravity and the speed that keeps that string tight, it happens to be 17,000 miles an hour. If you go faster than 17,000 miles an hour. What would happen Bob? The string still won't break. The string won't break, but Well, technically, yes, it does because you leave Earth's orbit grass Nobody can no longer contain you. Bob 6:02 And so you're going around this circle at 17,000. Well, actually, the theory is, is those crafts aren't really going around the circle, the gravity is what keeps them in the circle, right? Kevin 6:11 Well, you're anything orbiting Earth is constantly falling back to Earth. with gravity. However, it's the balance between centrifugal force trying to push you away from Earth because you're spinning around it so fast and gravity holding you on. So it's a delicate balance. If you don't go at least 17,000 miles an hour you d orbit and you come back to Earth. That's why you have to go from 17,000 miles an hour to something more agreeable on Earth, because that's not good to hit the ground at 17,000 miles an hour, you need to slow down and, and the air itself heats up. That's why you have the like the space shuttle shuttle and the Apollo capsules and all that have those heat shields because you need to decelerate essentially. And if you go faster than 17,000 miles an hour you just leave Earth orbit and go somewhere else. Bob 6:59 So the other day De the Dragon capsule, right? Is that what they back out up to Mach two? Kevin 7:08 Well, they if you're talking about they did a emergency abort test, right? Yes. And I don't know if it left, it didn't leave the atmosphere. Because the idea there was, hey, if we have to hit the ohshit button or some automatic system hits the ohshit button, can these dude survive the G forces? And can they get away from the rocket and it was a successful test? Bob 7:32 Right, but I saw a stat that it said that the capsule got up to so they had mentioned live that it got past Mach one. I think Ilan came out as part of the post analysis and said it got up to mock to do people good at Mach two. I believe two times the speed of sound, right. Right. Kevin 7:54 But again, it all depends on acceleration. You right now you're going I don't know 1000 miles an hour just spinning around Earth, but because you're not accelerating, it's a constant speed, no big deal. So going Mach two is not a big deal. The problem or the difference here is when you're on a rocket, you're not at a constant speed, you're going from zero to Mach two. So there's a constant acceleration so a g force being imparted on you. And when that rocket fires on the top of that to to tear off the the people to take them to safety, there's even more g forces because there's an acceleration that happens. And then being a paratrooper I'm very familiar with the deceleration g force when your parachute opens. Holy shit. Ah, you know, it's like, but it's the best feeling in the world because you know, your parachute opens because Bob 8:41 you know, you're not gonna bounce. Kevin 8:42 Yeah, at least not yet. Exactly. It's it's not the fear of heights that will ever kill you. It's a sudden stop at the bottom. That's the one you need to look out for. Bob 8:51 I don't know speaking for someone who's afraid of heights that could possibly get me Kevin 8:57 so let me ask you a Question about space? Like, why? Why do humans want to go to space? So I wrote down two possibilities. Actually, let's, let's call it three, just the technology like satellites. Okay, space, we know there's a use case their space tours. So you got like Virgin Galactic selling tickets, basically to go up to low Earth orbit, and then come back, and then colonization. So those are the three things I can think of. Is there anything outside of the way three? Bob 9:28 I think exploration is probably the top of the heap. Right? Okay. Kevin 9:33 Yeah, okay. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't really, I mean, I guess I conflated colonization with exploration. So you could take a lap around the moon and come back home and exploring the surface of the moon. Bob 9:45 Right. Right. But we have those unmanned probes we started the show out with that are really just on a mission of pure exploration. True. Kevin 9:54 They're not as necessary. Go ahead. Bob 9:56 Well, Virgin Galactic is not actually doing trips, though. Yet, right, but they're selling tickets. Kevin 10:02 They have things that can go up to the edge of space and back and they are selling tickets. But I honestly it's priced out of my budget, so I haven't kept up on it. Bob 10:14 Hmm, yeah, I felt like that was still vaporware, that they're not really actually doing that. Kevin 10:20 I would agree. I would tend to agree with so we kind of have those four sorts of things, space tours, colonization, exploration, and just you know, app applying communication tech or telescopes and shit like that, right? Bob 10:37 Yeah, sorry, hang on. I'm looking at this Virgin Galactic bullshit. Actually, they actually have been into space But have they been into space with paying customers? Well, I thought Kevin 10:48 I saw recently where they can touch the edge of space. So it also comes down to the legal What does going to space air quotes me Bob 10:56 right? It's a quarter million dollars for 90 minute flight. they've received about $80 million in deposits from future astronauts. Unknown Speaker 11:03 What the Bob 11:05 frick? That was December of 2018. Kevin 11:09 Hey, man, we need a tax write off its tax season. By the way, we need a tax write off, Hey, I know want to buy a ticket. You can hide some of that money in a space tour. ism. Right? Bob 11:21 Yeah. All right, I'll stop looking at that crap. So you asked me a question about telescopes and whatnot. What did you say? Well, Kevin 11:26 well, basically, I think we boil it down to why the frick should we even go to space? And I think we have four kind of reasons, right? Why do we give a fuck? Right? We have exploration, space tourism, colonization, and then applying technology like satellites and stuff like that. Bob 11:45 Right during that also just what people do, like people are starved to learn about things they don't know about. Kevin 11:52 True. I mean, you hear stuff all the time. We know more about outer space than we know about our own oceans like we just kind of Right. Yeah, we I mean, we lost the whole airplane and H 370. Somewhere in earth in an ocean somewhere. Nobody can find it. That's weird. Yeah, that's strange. Okay, so, space. It's not easy, right? So to come back to my son's thought, hey, why am I getting the Mars yet? Well, I mean, think about the moon. That was 50 years ago, Neil Armstrong's dead Bob 12:24 in theory, in theory, it was just oh, Kevin 12:30 you know, one of those people are, you know, I was you know, almost had me there. Okay. So it's it's been 50 years and then we did the whole space shuttle thing and we're like, hey, reusable spaceships and shit. And that kind of like turned into Well, they can do low Earth orbit. They're basically fancy satellites with with a crew cab, and then that comes back down. Yeah, that's cool. It's an advancement, but then they killed him off. They killed off the space shuttle. That is event Then enter Space X and there's some other ones. But of course, they're not as ubiquitous, I guess a Space X. What's this one called? Like deep blue or something like that? Bad? I don't know. Why am I not surprised Jeff Bezos is shoveling money into a space program? Is it like a billionaire thing to be like? Well, let's see, we need our own spaceship company. Bob 13:22 Well, no. And that was actually one of the cruxes of the article that I sent you earlier today is that, you know, one of the things that happens in any industry like this, especially when it's early, you know, like early adopter early get into that there's a consolidation. And, you know, one company will acquire the other and, and make itself bigger gain technology, but they don't feel like the three billionaires that are doing it. So you got Branson, Bezos, and musk. And they don't see any of the three of those actually working together or like, you know, combining. Kevin 13:55 Gotcha. Bob 13:55 So it's totally a billionaire. It's a billionaire thing, like what are you doing? I got Well, I better get to. Kevin 14:03 That's fair. So it takes a long time to get anywhere in traffic here on Earth takes even longer to get somewhere by airplane. But you know, we can still get around this earth. You know, like the longest flight, you know, just happened recently. You can go from like London to Sydney, and a ridiculous amount of times like 14 hour flight or something ridiculous. I don't know, pick a number. So you get to outer space. Hey, now we're using spaceships. We'll get there faster. Right? Well, I have a list here, Bob. And I'm going to go through all eight planets, and even give you a bonus one called Pluto. Bob 14:40 And back in or is out again. No, Kevin 14:42 it's still out. We're still still blaming people like Neil deGrasse Tyson. Bob 14:46 I thought it was not eggs. I thought it you know, it's good. It's bad. It's in the towel. Kevin 14:50 I think it's still out. So we're going to start from the end and go out. How long do you think it would take us to get the mercury let's say you had a reason to go to New York mercury. What you don't Bob 15:00 we'd never make it because we'd burn up. Um, there's bad to get to mercury right now. Kevin 15:09 Yeah. How long would it take on a current technology? Bob 15:13 year and a half? Kevin 15:15 Hundred and 47 days is what it would take Unknown Speaker 15:17 half a year. Sorry. Well, that Well, Kevin 15:19 hold on. There's an asterisk here. Hundred 47 days is what it took the mercury probe in 1970. And so in the 1970s to go past there, however, to slow down enough to actually land can actually take six and a half years. Oh, that is it because Sydney has to match the orbital velocity and slowing down is hard. Because we always think about space travel and getting up to speed and getting there quick. Well, what they don't show you in Star Trek is much is the brakes right? How do you slow down and not splat right into the planet or just totally miss it Bob 15:57 without a for some really bad TV. If there are We've got to spend a half an episode slowing down. Kevin 16:05 I'm doing the best I can but the brakes this quickie, so Yeah, exactly. All right. Bob 16:13 Who is that? okati Kevin 16:18 that's my best Scotty. All right, Venus. How long do you think it would take to get to Venus? Bob 16:26 With the slowing down. Kevin 16:29 I don't know if this one's qualified with this line that just pick a number. How long would take the flyby get there touch it. About 15 months apparently Oh, apparently the the program mercker is called messenger and we sent Magellan to Venus and it took 15 months. Now. As we get through this, you might start thinking Wait a second. I've seen the solar system model Earth can be on the left hand side and the planet we're going to Bob 16:58 be calculating this based on Well, path I'm sure, Kevin 17:03 right. So NASA does their thing and says, Well, we've decided our our window to get there is here and it took 15 months. And then do you remember how many days of course, do you remember? Hey, Bob, remember that time you watch Apollo 11? land? No, you were sorry. I didn't mean to imply. Well, Bob, you went to venture gas on how long it took Apollo 11 to get to the moon. Bob 17:29 I feel like that wasn't very long. Like it was less than a day, right? Fuck this Kevin 17:36 Mars the opportunity lander, believe it or probe? Whatever opportunity was. How long do you think it took to get to Mars? Bob 17:46 Well, I feel like I've heard that that is an 18 month one way trip. Kevin 17:52 You know, I, I've heard anything from six months to five years. I'm like, I'm gonna Google that shit. And we're going to come back to it more but Took opportunity seven months there. Bob 18:03 But that was the slowing down to land or no did not want to actually slow down and land. Kevin 18:09 I have a list of things that have gone to Mars and we're going to cover that in a minute. So stick a pin in that. If you were to, if you were the GALILEO research for the GALILEO probe, and we happen to send you out to Jupiter, which we did, how long do you think it would take to get Jupiter? Bob 18:30 12 years? Six years pretty good. Kevin 18:34 Right on Bob, we sent Cassini to Saturn, how long did you think that took? And that left in 1997 and got there in the year 2000 and 7004. Bob 18:48 So it took seven years to I'm getting closer. Kevin 18:51 Now this one, I'm going to try not to giggle because it's it's how, how long did it take to get to your anus? Unknown Speaker 19:00 Enough. Kevin 19:02 I'm get going. Yes, apparently boys are when it did it hit so we have two voyagers one and two but one of the Voyagers it took eight and a half years so we sent Bob 19:11 a probe to your anus Kevin 19:13 apparently, you know it's funny because over the years you know when I grew up we called it your anus but apparently you know Uranus Uranus. But you know when did that happen? Did just like the political correct people say no caffrey Uranus. We got to see Uranus. Bob 19:28 Too many elementary school children losing their shit every time they talked about space. Kevin 19:34 Yes. And then Voyager made it to Neptune. How long do you think it took to get the Neptune so from the beginning? That's right, Bob 12 years. And then new horizons. That's one of the most recent ones and it made it to Pluto, which is a nonprofit It in 2015 but can you guess when we actually sent the probe Bob 20:05 to Pluto? 1998 2006. So Kevin 20:09 it took nine and a half years to Pluto is on one of those really weird orbits where it's like get some 200 year like, you know, once around the Sun thing. It's kind of weird Bob 20:22 because it's really far away. Kevin 20:24 Yes. So what I was kind of getting at here is it takes a long time to get somewhere. In fact, some more examples of going to Mars as promised here Viking one and 1976 took 335 days to get there. Viking to also in 1976 360 days almost a year to get there. In 2006, the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter 210 days curiosity 253 days and Phoenix lander 295 days so yeah, takes a minute to get there. So How's the space travel looking to you so far? Bob, do you want to go anywhere in the solar system? It's starting to look pretty, pretty long. Bob 21:08 Well, but it's interesting though, when you look at those probe type vehicles and some of the other ones, they're not very big, so their fuel capacity is not very big, so they probably can't do like very long giant sustained burns. So their speed is probably far less than what we would achieve in something that could take passengers right. Kevin 21:31 Yeah, so the the speed at which we hurl the thing, whether it's got people in or not, is dependent on how much fuel there is in it hundred percent. The and the reason you can't put much fuel, let alone a lot of payload into a rocket is because leaving Earth's atmosphere isn't easy. You have to overcome that whole gravity thing out here on Earth. Once you get out of Earth's gravity. You keep chugging along, but the real trouble is just that in Lift. Bob 22:00 So is the new thing that I'm hearing? Or did I totally make this up in my mind that we're going to be exploring, like a staging from the moon, so it doesn't take as much fuel to get out from there. Kevin 22:14 I've heard of some things like that, but I think we're, Bob 22:19 we're moon though, right? Like, I feel like there's a new commitment to going back. Kevin 22:25 That's what Trump said, right? We will not only plant our flag and leave our footprint, we will establish a foundation for an eventual mission to Mars. And perhaps someday too many worlds beyond. That's what he said. But I don't know if he's just sad to say it, you know, he didn't exactly say in this decade, I promise we will go to the moon or whatever, you know, Kennedy said so every every note he ever says, decayed, or that's weird, very Boston. It is it's east coast. All right. Um, so There are challenges with going on through space travel. One of the dangers Yes, duh. One of the dangers is radiation. So once you get outside of Earth's magnetic field and they had this problem with Apollo is the sun wants to kill you. It wants to irradiate you and here on earth we are protected by the ozone, the magnetic thinking and all that so you got radiation. The next thing you got is supplies, you know humans, or let's assume human space travel here. We need food, water, oxygen, shelter, power. What else do we need Bob? Anything or that covered? Bob 23:44 waste disposal. Kevin 23:46 Open the door, hang it out. Close the door. Bob 23:49 That's not how that works in space. Kevin 23:52 But they've got that pretty well figured out right? I mean, I imagine if you can stay on the space station for a year they figured out where to put the pool right. Bob 23:59 Good point. Yeah so the space station we really haven't covered that Kevin 24:05 so so you need so you have radiations problem distances a problem supplies so the food water oxygen and what have you just break down this there's no like you know a spaceships broke down think you could take a look at it you know somewhere out in the middle nowhere triple A is not coming out to fix you right? Bob 24:25 Yeah those first people that are going to be making that trip they're gonna it's pretty much going to be a success or not. Kevin 24:35 So as we alluded to one of the challenges is just getting up to speed you have to break out of Earth's atmosphere. So you're going to have to go at least 17,000 miles an hour in a direction. And let's say you're going to Mars. At some point, you gotta slow down. Slowing down is part of the equation. A lot of times these rockets nice probes will We'll face back the way it was coming in, do a burn to decelerate. And then one of the troubles you have there if you actually want to land on Mars, because that'll put you into orbit around Mars, is now you're changing atmospheres. So the engine that gets you from off of Earth is one thing, the engine that got you from Earth to Mars, maybe another and then the engine that puts you back man safely onto Mars could be a third one, it could be like the first one. So I have a list of rocket types here that Oh, my goodness. Bob 25:35 Couldn't we just group I'm into small, medium and large? I don't understand. Kevin 25:38 I don't know because I'm gonna say I'll be like, I've never heard of the heavier this one. Yeah, so we're going to do that in a second. But of course, when you enter Martian atmosphere, you could use a parachute. So passive braking thing like a parachute bouncy balloons. I guess retrorockets would be more of an active thing, but that's a common thing. So Imagine just leaving Earth atmosphere. A lot of times we use solid rockets or liquid rockets, right? Yeah, very traditionally see him on TV? Blah, blah, blah. So those were all very familiar with but apparently there's the Hall Effect thruster, Bob do remember the Hall Effect thruster? Bob 26:18 What are we talking about those when it we were talking about starlink? Yes. Perfect. Like that ion exchange kind of deal. Is that what that is? Kevin 26:27 That's right. So, you ever remember, remember, maybe you did or didn't Popular Mechanics, you know, when I was growing up as a kid Popular Mechanics would be in somebody's mailbox, it happened to read it. And it would always be this fantastical new engine that you know, this will get us to Mars in five years, you know, blah, blah, blah. You're tracking with me? You know the guy. Yeah. Bob 26:49 Very familiar with Popular Mechanics. Popular Science. Yeah. Yeah, maybe? Yeah, one of those. And so kennix is going to be more like on the ground here. I'm sure you're thinking popular song. Kevin 27:00 Yeah, I think you're right. Very good. So at some point, you got to go Well, today that stuff ever pan out? And how would you know? So Wikipedia actually has a list. And NASA keeps a scale, if you will, it goes from one to nine. Number. So if you're a number one type technology, you are a basic principle observed and report it basically, you're a shower thought at this point, no more. Then it goes all the way up to level nine, which is, it's in operations and it's in testing and there's everywhere in between there. So if I look at my list of space propulsion, and I'm going to send you a link just just cuz I Bob 27:43 can follow along at home. Kevin 27:45 Yes, exactly. So if you guys scroll down, there's there's a table but only 1234 or five six types of engines, if I counted correctly, are actually flight proven number nine And then you've got three that are eights, two that are sevens. Oh, it looks like solar sails are also a nightmare. So I guess seven. But there's a lot of these technologies that are like, well seems like a good idea. We're throwing a shit ton of money at it, but none of its ever actually kind of gone anywhere. And if you think of things like warp drives and things like that, I think that those are on this list somewhere. Bob 28:26 But what that's got to be closer to one though, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't even know drive is totally theoretical, right? Kevin 28:33 Yeah. Okay, so, uh, what's interesting about this list, you have solid rockets and liquid rockets, and the column that I am interested in is the firing duration. Think about it. They can only fire those rockets for a few minutes, right. And that shit either is you've used all your fuel or you got to conserve it. The ones that are interesting are the Hall Effect thrusters, which are on the starlink satellites. Those things can last months, if not years. And so the idea is if you are constantly accelerating and within acceptable human you know, where you won't kill a human. You know, could you get to Mars or somewhere much quicker because you don't? Why? Cuz you're burning constantly because in order to get to Mars quicker, you just need to use more fuel. And so there's not very many engine types on here that last a long time. They're pretty much like fireworks if you will. Yep, yep, there was. That's all we got. And so I'm not very optimistic that we're going to get to you space or to Mars. That is any quicker. What do you think? Bob 29:50 No, I don't I mean, I don't see anything on this list that would actually put us you know, it not within reality. No. So we're living on existing technology, which means we need a giant fuel capacity and we're not going to be able to go very fast. Kevin 30:08 So if we look at Mars again and go, Okay, how long does it take to get to Mars? We originally said about seven months However, because the way Earth and Mars you know, kind of dance around the sun at different, you know, speeds and whatnot, it could actually be as closest 39 days, or as far as 289 days, however, comma, that assumes a straight line distance because we've always been told, well, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So that straight line will take you through the sun in some cases, and ignores gravity and orbits and things like that. So practically speaking, it takes about nine months to get there. And that the real son of a gun here is is that window of opportunity, where it's about seven to nine months to get there is only every 26 months So imagine somebody on Mars calling 911 Hello, NASA 911 how many states are emergency? All right, well, we'll be there in 26 months, maybe, you know, it's not very practical. So that's another challenge. You're, you're pretty much in the frontier. No kidding, right? Bob 31:22 Well, not only is it a challenge for the rescue aspect of it, or the health aspect, but also just the practicality of the trip in general. So let's say we go once we're going again, a year and two months later, Kevin 31:39 probably not. Or probably yes, I mean, you've got you've got a land people on that planet, often right? Bob 31:46 Right. Yeah. But I guess what I'm getting at though is like what is the so one leaves today say the window is today. Say it gets there in nine months. They're not getting any support again, for another No, well, 16 1718 months, Kevin 32:04 not necessarily. I mean, because Earth and Mars are still out there. So you could send somebody this week and somebody else next week except the people that leave this week, it takes them seven months to get there. The people who leave next week at seven months and plus, maybe three weeks because Mars is getting ahead or getting behind Earth is pulling ahead, you know, that sort of thing, Bob 32:26 right? But logistically speaking, you're not going to start staggering them like that until we have a proven method and sustainability. Kevin 32:35 properly. Right. So what are some of the challenges of colonizing Mars specifically? Well, if we come back to food, water, got it. Oxygen, shelter, communications and distance. Those are my main ones here. So we haven't really talked about Communications at all. Know what really grinds my gears about Star Trek Bob. A lot, but let me help you. It has a lot Do the communications because Starfleet Command on earth will be sending a message to Captain Picard and Captain Picard will take it. And he's 100 light years away from Earth, right? And then suddenly he just can speak real time to Starfleet Command makes no sense whatsoever. Because, wait a second, if communication signals travel speed of light, and we're 100 light years away from Earth, shouldn't that radio message take 100 years to get to us? So that bothers me. So, yes, in real terms, if you were to make that 911 call from Mars, or if you wanted to send a Christmas Graham to an astronaut, or whatever, do you want to send the signal, it takes you anywhere from three minutes to about 22 minutes depending on the position of Earth and Mars in relation to each other. You want to talk about latency as it says and latency. considerable lag going on there. So the other day somebody on Twitter had mentioned, you know, time zones with Mars, I'm like, Oh my god, could you imagine having to code not only time for Earth, but time in relation to another planet? Oh boy, how do you want to go there? Is that even possible? You know, train, a train leaves a station on Earth. Another train leaves the station on Mars. When will these two trains collide? Yes, their space trains But yeah, I mean, that's just like, Ah, you have to have, Bob 34:34 yeah, but the daylight the definition of a day on Mars is going to be substantially different than a definition of a day here. Kevin 34:40 Right? So we have universal time here on Earth. Where in Zulu time, does that become the Galactic time? You know, if I'm on Mars, do I just have to care about well what time is it back on Earth but you're right, they have different orbit, orbital periods as they rotate and then they go around the Sun differently. I don't even know if my mind can comprehend this at this point. Bob 35:04 Yeah, this is becoming less and less of a potential possibility as we were on here on the timeline of broadcast. Kevin 35:14 All right, so have you seen the Martian with? What's his name? Bob 35:20 Matt Damon? Kevin 35:21 Yes. I think so. Where he says, I'm going to science the shit out of this. So the premise of the movie is he grows potatoes and the thing Yes, he gets left behind left for dead and then he's actually not dead. It's a pretty good movie. I think Neil deGrasse Tyson says pretty realistic. So I wanted to know, all right, could Is that possible? I did some some interweb research. So let's, let's look at food. So you're Matt Damon. Wait, wait, wait. So you googled? Is it possible to grow food on Mars? Yeah. And there's lots of stuff like that NASA has their own papers on this and I'm going to reference this. Bob 35:59 Yes. How does Now even though they've only sent a little rovers Kevin 36:03 Ah, so I'm going to send you another link while I I talk here. And long story short, we need food right? So how do you grow food on Mars? Well, there's two ways you can grow here. Easy. No, no, we're not going fantastical. Here. We're going practical. So I can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I can't cut and paste and talk at the same time here. Okay, so link set. So I familias hydroponics. Oh yeah. So hydroponics for the lay listeners, you can grow plants without soil at all. All you have to do is basically put nutrient rich water over the roots, and then voila, you have a plant. So Secondly, you can also grow that's overly simplified, but okay. Are you an expert, Bob, can you please enlighten us? Bob 36:55 Plenty of plants with too much water. So trust me, it's possible. All right. Kevin 37:01 So, in the movie with Matt Damon, he grows food basically under attempt, if you will. And according to NASA, Mars has all the nutrients needed for growing stuff. And, in fact, let's see here. I don't know if that that link working that I sent you. Bob 37:23 Yeah, but what about so these are all the things that they found that were positive in this world that would support life. But what about the bad things? Kevin 37:31 Like? Bob 37:33 Well, they didn't list them here. But what about things that would be damaging to plants? Like what if it's overly acidic, or all those things, Kevin 37:40 I can barely get my grass to grow. So I'm no expert at this. But according to their little PDF here, white paper, all the essential plant nutrients are available such as oxygen, carbon, hydrogen bottle bottle, and there's a big list. All right, nobody wants to hear the list. It's out there and Google it. Alright, so assuming to it Assuming we can feed ourselves and that we've overcome the distance to get to Mars in the landing and all that fun stuff. Next thing is water. Where do you think we're going to get water from Bob Bob 38:13 from all the ice? Kevin 38:15 Yes. Where's the ice on Mars though? Bob 38:17 I believe it's underground. Kevin 38:20 Very good. According to my sources, the ice is just below the surface. And or mostly at the southern polar cap. Apparently, there's enough ice frozen up the solar or the southern polar cap. In order to if it were to melt, there would be 36 feet of water over the whole planet. Allegedly. So Bob 38:44 that's a lot of water. Give it a couple lifetimes and I'm sure we'll figure out how to flood that place too. Kevin 38:48 Well, there there's a problem with water on Mars. Bob, do you want to guess what that is? liquid gravity of this note close. If it's not gravity You have no idea what it would be. Bob, if you were to take off your space helmet as you're whipping around Earth trying to fix the Hubble Telescope for the 10th time, what would happen to you? Bob 39:15 Something bad, I'm assuming Kevin 39:16 Yes. where I'm going with this is water here on Earth, liquid water only stays liquid because of temperature and one other element and that is pressure. So if you take a cup of water with you all the way up to outer space, it will evaporate, it'll boil away because the boiling point of water changes depending on how much pressure there so in a vacuum water will boil instantly, right? Bob 39:41 It's at a much lower temperature here, Kevin 39:43 right? So if you take off your space, how much space your liquids boil away, that doesn't sound very fun. So on Mars, it only has 1% of the pressure atmospheric pressure that Earth does. So liquid water If you could haven't liquid water, it would instantly boil away. So it doesn't want to be liquid. You need to have it pressurized. Bob 40:06 How does it stay in a frozen state that Kevin 40:10 frozen water is different than liquid? Well, that's why I kept trying to qualify it with liquid water. Because I don't know chemistry. Bob 40:19 Yeah, but don't you think that the low boiling point due to the lack of pressure would prevent the frozen state from even occurring? Kevin 40:27 This I have no idea I out of my pay grade. Bob 40:30 I don't know science well enough, either. I just I feel like there's lots of really smart people that are you know, investigated this but some of it's not logical out for me. Kevin 40:41 So, so we could get our food, we can get our water allegedly. If we do some stuff. Bob 40:47 We'd have to create artificial pressure environment so it wouldn't boil. Kevin 40:51 Well, you have to do that anyway. It's called your space suit. Because so you don't your liquids inside you don't boil Bob 40:57 well sorry, larger scale right artist. Fishel pressurized areas Kevin 41:01 in Well, you're gonna need a habitat Anyway, you don't want to be like, we're on year three, and I've never taken off my space suit. I've snapped on the inside because I haven't been able to clear anything Reek. Oh my god, but my poop chute. Still working. It's not gummed up too much yet. Anyway, so you've got to have some sort of habitat, which takes the Academy. Next point. In order to go to Mars, you don't just go to Mars with nothing there. You should you should pre stage a bunch of habitats, rovers, food emergency rations, right? You're sending all that way heavier. Bob 41:40 That gets back to one of my earlier comments, though, like how, how many? I mean, realistically, we start right this second. We had all the materials to send up there. Just think about how many trips it would take to even stage the area given optimizing the distance and the speed and the length of time it takes to get there. We're just Far out Kevin 42:02 totally agree but if I'm if you're like Kevin, you need to go to Mars I'd be like Bob, you better spot can send supplies for even put my spacesuit on. Exactly. Bob 42:11 And we haven't sent any of those yet. Right. Okay. And I don't even know what we would send yet Dewey? Kevin 42:17 Well, food, oxygen, water. Bob 42:19 We understand the categorical. You know, we understand the boxes, we have to check but we don't have any of the we don't have existing technology right now to a get it there, be deployed and see have it still be viable by the time people get there? Kevin 42:36 Not math, certainly not. Because every time we send like a rover or something, we all pucker our butts going well, is it gonna crash? That gonna make it you know, it's definitely not perfected yet. Bob 42:47 Right? And it's and that's just one small thing, not nearly enough to sustain a pre flight of supplies. Kevin 42:53 Yeah. And my son and I were talking about this. He's like, Dad, what happened if you put all your supplies here and then you miss you land on the other side? Well, that's bad. So do you have to pre stage all you know, at strategic places all over the frickin planet? Bob 43:07 And that actually, you know, one thing that I do appreciate about some of the more the media, the fantastical, the shows the movies, they're starting to get a little bit more on board with everything doesn't go perfectly. And yeah, the supplies were here, but we're actually 25 miles from there. how we're going to get from point A to point B. Kevin 43:25 Yeah, that's kind of cool. I think you're probably referencing Netflix, Mars. TV show. You've seen that right? Bob 43:32 Yeah, but Lawson space deals with some of that shit on a regular basis. So Kevin 43:35 juicy Season Two yet I've lost in Bob 43:37 space. We're in the middle of it right now. Okay, Kevin 43:39 yeah, actually enjoy it. Yeah, I mean, definitely some laughter knows. But yeah, I really like the Mars thing because they they flip this one of those weird docu dramas where they flip back and forth between reality and drama. Bob 43:53 Is that actually a National Geographic? I don't know. I thought it was a Netflix But well, no, I think it is on net. flicks, but I think it's a National Geographic, like docu drama. Kevin 44:04 Gotcha. I don't know. I might I'm gonna go watch that after this. All right, so we've talked about food we've talked about water, oxygen, how do you take enough oxygen to a planet that just doesn't have enough Bob? Bob 44:17 Well, I don't think they're going to be able to take it I think they get once again, I think they're going to have to devise some technology probably tied to the water and the pressurization to extract oxygen out of that process in kind of like fabricate an environment, Kevin 44:33 very good. Everything. I think in the Martian, they do this basically, you can split the water atom, which is hydrogen, oxygen. If you use a process called electrolysis, you can use electricity to simply have to free the bond between hydrogen and the oxygen. And you can have pure hydrogen and oxygen Of course, it's very dangerous because pure hydrogen flammable and pure oxygen is Well, that's one of the ingredients of freaking fire here, right is an oxidizer. Yeah. So it's a dangerous proposition. The real trouble with electrolysis is it takes a lot of power. Yeah. So you'd have to take that ability up there with you to exactly we haven't even talked about shit. How do we generate? How do we keep the lights on? Right? Because solar power ain't gonna cut it on Mars, you're too far away. Bob 45:24 It's funny though. Like, if you bring this back to conversations we've had about, like artificial intelligence, where it's in its infancy. And then if you layer on top of this, you know, we've mentioned Ilan a couple times already, some of the stuff that he's working on, like, you know, with his solar batteries, his battery banks, the research that they're doing for starlink, you know, to be able to synchronize and you know, the stuff he's doing with SpaceX to be able to send rockets out, bring them back, all the precision that goes into that, like a lot of these pieces actually stack up pretty well as Legos. toward us getting someplace else. Kevin 46:02 Yeah, my fear is we've put all of our attention into getting there and not enough in the Now what? Now so I I'm a little worried that we don't hear me I'm sure some smart think tanks thinking about this. But isn't NASA is Space X worried about this is a another billionaire needs to come along ago Okay, we're not SpaceX we're not we're not the Uber ride to get you to Mars. What we are is where the sustainability company that'll keep you alive. Bob 46:31 Well, I think you might be working toward that with a lot of these smaller projects and I'm doing smaller and air quotes. I mean, maybe they are pieces to a bigger puzzle. Kevin 46:40 So Bob, we've talked about oxygen, but here on earth we don't breathe all oxygen in the air. Do we? Bob 46:49 Sure feels good when you do though. Kevin 46:51 It does. But are you familiar with the infamous ending of Apollo one there was a fire right there. A pure oxygen environment that killed Gus Grissom, Ed white and Roger Chaffee because they didn't think about putting nitrogen and the oxygen environment to prevent an explosion and or a fire from instantly just roof Bob 47:16 you know, consuming the entire capsule. Kevin 47:18 So nitrogen fortunately is available on Mars and the soil, but that's again something else you've got to extract it's not free, it's going to take energy. Now, I imagine because your space, it's starting to wreak as we talked about, you're gonna want to take that off, and you're gonna need a shelter. You're gonna need to some way to bathe yourself somewhere to Bob 47:42 that bathing things that happen for a while. Kevin 47:45 Did you know that in the military that women are not allowed to be out in the field for more than three days? For hygiene reasons. Bob 47:56 Well, that's not space travel. Kevin 47:59 Sorry. It's not space travel, but I gotta think it's got to be the same thing. So it basically have to, are there are there rules for spaceforce written out anywhere? Well, if I guess it's a military branch, so I mean, when you're in basic training, army base training, you are nothing. They don't give two shits about you. But the important thing here is the go. I know we don't care about you your training. We don't care if you're dirty, nasty or whatever. But the women need to go back to the barracks every three days and bathe and come back. And as a male I was like, What the hell? I'm covered in bug bites I smell why cannot go back take shower. Suck it up private. Bob 48:41 Yeah, it's gonna end up going away. That's not gonna be a forever rule. Kevin 48:45 I honestly I'm not a woman. I have no idea. Why that not a rule. Bob 48:50 Never been a woman. Kevin 48:51 Not looking now. So I don't know why I didn't. I didn't want to ask Hey, why why do you have to go back every two days. Is there something else? unaware of what happens to you in these, Bob 49:02 I'm pretty sure when they send men and women on this trip to Mars, there's not going to be any weird rules about women having to bathe every three days. Kevin 49:12 Well, what there might be is rules about fraternization procreation. Bob 49:18 Like mean it's required. Kevin 49:20 Like, if you get if you have a baby or get somebody pregnant, that's that's like, oh, gee, what are we gonna do? Because you think they're sending the gear to handle that? Bob 49:33 Well, first of all, it will be strictly forbidden. Second of all, there's not a damn thing in the world that can do to stop it. It will be strictly forbidden. The first several trips, several, several, maybe most of them too. I mean, we'll get to this later, but they'll all be one way trips. So no one's good. Even though they will be a strict rule not to procreate while they're there. It's going to happen. Kevin 49:58 Yeah, for sure. Because Somehow some way evening army basic training people hook up and I have no idea why you don't want to do that. It's so disgusting. Bob 50:09 But it's that's just human nature for sure. Kevin 50:12 Okay, so we need shelter, we need to be able to Bob 50:14 take that off. You have an important question for you before we get Yep. I honestly believe that we're going to get to this that you and I will see this in our lifetime. Kevin 50:25 That's that's amazing question because Jackson asked me that he's like dad will never happen in our lifetime. I said he's Bob 50:32 got a better shot than you and I do but what and that's what I said that's exactly what Kevin 50:35 I said. I said my lifetime know, your lifetime. Maybe. But honestly, if you I'm kind of doubting that too because and he wants to be the first one on Mars. You know, it's very noble, very, very 11 year old kid, right? But I look at everything go Wait a second. We haven't been in the moon 50 years. Do we give a shit enough to make this happen because the world Just Elon Musk ain't gonna cut it. Bob 51:02 No, but you and I've talked about this before, though there is a there's a very, you know, it's almost like Flat Earth versus round Earth. There's camps that believe we have to go to Mars because this planet is almost done. And then there's actually another camp that thinks even though this planet might not almost be done, we need to go there because we need to be first. And then there's the camp of people who said, We don't need to do that. We need to fix it here. First. Kevin 51:26 Let me see if I can address all three camps. this planet's fucked, we should go to another planet. Honestly, you're you're older than me. And I'm not that far behind. We're to the point where Earth can be around long enough, at least for me and you and probably our kids. No problem. Honestly, just I don't Bob 51:40 know if that's a no problem, but okay. I see a greater chance of us losing coastal lands in our lifetime then getting to Mars. Well, why am I losing coastal lands in the world? So Kevin 51:55 yeah, and I'm no climate denier. But here's what I think Earth doesn't give a shit. Humans are here not earth will be here whether or not there is lots of water lots of land uninhabitable doesn't care humans aren't Earth problem is nothing that humans can do to really piss off Earth, whatever. So it's really a matter of our own existence. Do you do this human humanity went to keep Earth habitable or not. And if we don't want to, or can't, or it's too late or whatever, we have to go to Mars. But let's take a step back. You're telling me we have a better chance on Mars? After all the things we just talked about, Oh, Bob 52:33 no, no, no, no. I'm not saying we have a better chance of seeing more major cities relocated from the coast because they're, they're underwater. Yes, in our lifetime, then us getting to Mars in our lifetime. Kevin 52:45 But given that, given the horrible tragedy of that, that's still like, I'd rather take that over. All the things we just talked about going to Mars that we'd have to overcome. Bob 52:56 Oh, yeah. But there's still camps that say we have to go to Mars because Those things. Kevin 53:01 That's fine, Bob 53:02 sizable camp. I think it would be neat. Kevin 53:05 But if you if I look at everything, like from a business, like, what's the business need here? What what's the business case? I'm going to mark, there isn't really a good one is there? Bob 53:17 Well, there's probably going to be a time in the very near future that that type of business venture could employ people that who otherwise would not be employed, because of the way we're going technologically as well. So Kevin 53:31 well, we have we have unlimited examples of companies that don't make money in the name of well, it would be cool if and why don't we try this? I just don't see the profit of going to Mars because of the enormous expense of just putting a single human being on that frickin planet is amazingly high. Bob 53:54 I will say that it won't become any kind of reality and Unless someone finds a way to make money from it Kevin 54:03 exactly. Oh, or, or we're in a race with the Russians or Chinese, which is more like that. Bob 54:10 That's what I said. The second camp was the people who said that we need to do it because we need to be first. Right? Have you watched that Apple the apple series for all mankind? Kevin 54:21 I don't think so. But do you have apple in Miami? No, I don't. So I guess I haven't. Bob 54:27 Okay. Basically, it's the premise is that we were second to the moon. And it's fictional. Oh, well, yeah. Cuz we were first. Kevin 54:38 I don't know if this is a conspiracy theory, like Flat Earth. Okay. Bob 54:43 It's like, um, it's very similar to man in the high castle. It's look at what life what life would be like if we lost the race to the moon. And then how, how everything cascades down from that it's about the space program in the States. How that was impacted by now. Being first. Okay, I guess it's kind of interesting. I like those premises. Kevin 55:05 So a large part of me believes the only reason we went to the moon wasn't because it was there. And it was hard. It's because the Russians were beating us in the space race pure and simple, right. Bob 55:18 Can you just do the rest of the episode with your SJ? Okay. Kevin 55:24 We choose to go to the moon, not because it's easy about because it's hard. Okay. Wow. That's right. That's on a podcast forever now. Okay. So, one of the last things that we talked about, we already touched on is power. So I can only think because solar power is kind of out. You're not gonna burn coal. You're not gonna have you might have methane there. But I think nuclear power would be the ideal choice, wouldn't it? Bob 55:54 I think for portability and relative ease of setup and something we're familiar with Yes, because everything else is very large scale. Yeah, everything's large and scale Kevin 56:06 the electrolysis if I mean, you're gonna need oxygen. And that takes me to like, okay, now you've let's assume we've overcome the impossible. And we have some infrastructure there. What sort of skill sets are we putting there? I'm thinking doctors, engineers, mechanics, security, what other kind of people Bob 56:28 it's almost going to have to be like a microcosm of every discipline we have in any thriving community, because you're going to need all those support staff. And then anytime where you can find multiple hat wearers, in those very specialized areas, they'll be worth their weight in some rare metal that we just go from Mars that somebody gets rich from. Kevin 56:48 So not that I'm volunteering to go to Mars, but when you're in the military, and they send you to, I don't know, the Middle East where there's nothing and you have to stand up a whole tent city and have internet and everything. You start start figuring out who's valuable and who's not. And I was in a communications unit and we had to wear those multiple hats. One thing that we weren't good as communicators was getting the generator running, keeping it running the the heavy equipment, so we had mechanics embedded with us. So I imagine you need some very specialized people you're not sending philosophers to Mars properly. You're not sending poets. You're sending blue collar, no, and they'd be the proverbial tits on a chicken. It's amazing. So, um, I think a lot of our I'm probably influenced a lot by our sci fi stuff where you have like, you know, security people, but But what I'm more thinking of you probably have martial law there, right? Hey, you quit fucking so and so quit trying to make a baby. You're gonna ruin the mission or whatever. Right? Yeah, I would think the military would be like the project managers. Just like the general, like, structure to it all. So yeah, military would be there. They'd be your security, police slash project managers. So in season two of Mars, they had two groups on that land on Mars One was like the UN version of colony and the other one was private, private enterprise. And so whenever the private enterprises do something, the UN people like, hey, you're not allowed to do that. Blah, blah, blah. And they would always reply, like the fuck we can't, we're private. Go fuck yourself. We can do whatever the fuck we want. Go ahead and stop it. Bob 58:34 Well, that brings up a really good question, though. And something we really haven't talked about, which is kind of why we started this topic, though. We will have any un presence, would we because it's going to be 100% commercial at this point. Kevin 58:50 We would well see, that's where it gets slippery because NASA government agency funds SpaceX, so there's You know, the old world the money really kind of controls Bob 59:03 everything. Do they fund a SpaceX or do they contract to SpaceX? Kevin 59:09 All right, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know. But somebody wrote a check. Bob 59:12 That's all I know. Right. But Ilan could most certainly, or more likely, you know, a basis or a Branson could go there with their own funding, and NASA would be cut out of it, like, almost like NASA scientists would be hired as consultants from the commercial enterprises. That's how kind of I see it. Kevin 59:34 So when we talk about starlink, we kind of talked about what happens is, if SpaceX goes out of business, and there's 40,000 satellites zipping around up there, and nobody's in control of them anymore. The government's gonna take that over, right? Bob 59:47 Or he sells them for pennies on the dollar to Jeff Bezos who's trying to do the same thing. Okay, I would like that to happen first, Kevin 59:54 my latest episode of Black Mirror sounds like this. Elon Musk died. SpaceX goes out of business. There's 200 colonists stuck on Mars haven't heard from Earth. They're not sure what's happening anymore. yada yada yada yada. So who rescues these people? Bob 1:00:14 I don't think anyone does. Kevin 1:00:15 Damn, that better be in my contract. I'm gonna be getting some life insurance there. Bob 1:00:20 So no, I think anybody who's making that trip for the foreseeable future and I'm talking like, you know, the better part of a quarter of a century they're not they're going to it's a one way mission. Nobody's coming back from there for a long time. Kevin 1:00:37 Dear, do you think it should be a one way mission period there is no come home figure it out. I mean, I'd be motivated if I'm there. Okay. There is no go home guys. Bob 1:00:46 Well, since we barely have a plan, well, we don't we don't have any methodology or plan to get there this point. I don't see the get home park coming for far, far past to get there. Kevin 1:00:59 So let's take that temperature. Can you you asked the question, will this happen in our lifetime? I think we agree not not yours or mine. Bob 1:01:07 Right? Yeah, totally agree with their Kevin 1:01:09 pick. Pick a number on the timeline. What year do you think will be there if at all? Bob 1:01:14 So we're at 2020 right now. Yeah, I would guess. Other so we're talking about first landing like six people in the smallest spaceship possible. Man has taken his first leak on Mars. When does that happen? 2080 Kevin 1:01:35 Okay, what technologies need to have all the things we talked about getting there? generating food, water, shelter, oxygen of all those things. What technology Do you feel is holding us back the most? Bob 1:01:56 I think the the the portability of reliable storage structures. I think that's like what it's you know, it's it's not. It's not an appear infrastructure thing. It's the ability to take something that needs to be at scale quickly after landing, but have it be portable enough to get there in one shipment. I think that's the biggest challenge, Kevin 1:02:19 basically, blast off an entire Moon or Mars base with crew and everything and we'll be able to land everything in place. Bob 1:02:29 I think you get a shortcut for the first trip, because you could make the ship somewhat sustainable for long enough maybe for the next people to get there. But you have to have some kind of architectural, you know, modularity, that it's simple to deploy and highly functional and environment that we don't know that much about. Kevin 1:02:50 I think it's the propulsion to get there. That's the biggest thing get us back six months. It's just seven months or longer getting there with certain launch but I think that's just crippling at this point. Bob 1:03:02 Yeah. But do you think I just don't know if that technology? I mean, that technology might be hundreds of years off to close that gap? Kevin 1:03:12 Well, the Mars show we've been talking about had a really cool concept. I just remind myself up. They have an orbital space station at Mars. That's the supply drop ship. So right so only Bob 1:03:24 one ship has the land basically. Right? Kevin 1:03:27 So you could send a barge, if you will, from Earth. Okay, so imagine the space station that we have right now. Hey guys, it's it's decommissioned. But you know what, it can hold a lot of shit. They can hold supplies. So what we're going to do is we're a packet full of stuff. And then we're going to attach rockets to it and then we're going to send it to Mars, and it's going to now orbit Mars. Now we're going to send humans to Mars, to the space station and we're just going to start by inhabiting the space station nobody goes down to earth yet or Mars yet Bob 1:03:56 just like we thing, but our space station. What's it max capacity 642 Yeah. Okay. Kevin 1:04:07 All right, it needs to grow a little bit. But let's, let's say we upscale that a little bit. We have a space station that's going around Mars, and then that's the supply closet, if you will. And then we can send you know, once once we establish a human presence around a Mars, we can then start with accuracy start going, Okay, we need to land supplies here. Now we can land humans there, we kind of take away a lot of the risk. I think Bob 1:04:32 it also takes away Yeah, it takes away a lot of the targeting oopsies too. Because you get into orbit you eventually dock with the space station. In theory, there's a shuttle that's much more easy to target and control getting back and we'll even one ways so that the trip that goes out there, there could be like a capsule that becomes the new thing that they just shoot down at the surface. Kevin 1:04:53 Yeah, and they have that so emergencies came up in the in the season and what they would do is they would radio to the channel. Nice, I think we're running the space station like, Hey, we need a whatever, whatever. So when you fly over that particular area, do a drop. And then you know those people get it. So I think that's actually one of the nicer things because if you send a rocket from Earth and you want it to land on Mars, I think you enter orbit first. That's normal. But why not have a more permanent presence in Mars orbit that you could, you know, use as a lifeboat if you will, for anyone who goes to the ground? Pretty much what the Apollo program did? Bob 1:05:31 Yeah, that's still I still think we're a good hundred years off. Kevin 1:05:36 I would agree. It's not gonna happen in my lifetime. I don't know if I can tell Jackson. My honest to god opinion because I don't think it'll happen in his lifetime either. I think we spend too much time on the, the possibility of the rocket I think we haven't spent enough time on the Okay, we're here now what? Because, you know, I just don't think we've thought about Emily's, they said it doesn't happen in the public very often. We've talked through a lot of the things here that could go wrong and that's a lot of weight lot of infrastructure, a lot of gear. And then we got humans, you know what if a human goes crazy whether they're they're gonna they're gonna incarcerated human have a prison on Mars? Bob 1:06:14 No way. They'll just zap them. Right. Kevin 1:06:16 I mean, that's probably what will happen. But you know, are you gonna go ahead and say that's your policy? Probably not. Yeah. fuck up, you're dead? By who's? Bob 1:06:27 I think that's an understood risk of the entirety of the trip. Kevin 1:06:30 Well, I that's why I think it's gonna be very militaristic. I mean, the military has come up, or has had these situations come up. So this isn't like new way of life for the military. That's why I think there comes a point where civilians can only do so much maybe the civilians can create the rockets, but you're gonna have to send the space force or whoever to actually man it. Bob 1:06:55 Well, tell Jackson to figure out what he thinks the biggest problem is and have that dude up and maybe it happens in his lifetime if he studies up. Unknown Speaker 1:07:04 Yeah, I'm not so optimistic, but I'll Kevin 1:07:07 tell them what you're about. Yeah. All right, what do we forget? Bob 1:07:13 I'm sure we forgot tons. But since we were kind of like, disclaimer, we're not scientists or mathematicians know we're billionaires are just two dudes bullshit about tech. Unknown Speaker 1:07:25 And today it was about space. Kevin 1:07:28 All right, good stuff, man. Unknown Speaker 1:07:29 Yeah. Remember, if you're still listening, Bob 1:07:34 do that like thing. Have your Spotify listener follow? I don't know what it is. That just helps us know who we're reaching. And you know what, you can always hit us up on Twitter. Kevin 1:07:46 Yes, and if you want to Bob and Kevin show sticker. I've actually sent a few internationally now and some domestically. 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On this episode, VIP Ignite podcast host Deneen White is speaking with Megan Kane. Megan has a wide range of skills…she published children's books, is a candidate for the Mars One mission, and in her spare time has a career in modeling and acting. Megan is one of those rare individuals who is as creative as she is cerebral. We will talk to her about how she got into modeling and acting, and how she can balance that along with a busy travel schedule working in the space industry.
Ryan MacDonald is one of 100 candidates for the Mars One project, that hopes to set up a human community on Mars. If it all goes to plan, Ryan will be leaving Earth in 2031 - and never coming back! We call up Ryan to find out more about his ambitions. We also learn about some of the sea life that was alive in the age of the dinosaurs, meet a tiny creature with a big sting and wonder if humans could turn ever invisible - and whether that's a good idea or not! Join Fun Kids Podcasts+: https://funkidslive.com/plusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mars, named after the Roman God of War, has been a continual source of fascination. Humans have dreamed of going there since it was virtually discovered. Mars may not just be a dream anymore but soon a reality. A panel of experts think it is possible to send humans on a mission to Mars by 2030, putting the first humans on the red planet. However, Mars is not the typical holiday destination of choice, with no breathable air, minus 5 degrees Celsius and high radiation. First we need to tackle the biggest problem. We currently lack the technology to get people to Mars. There are serious gaps in our abilities, including the fact that we can't properly store the necessary fuel long enough for a Mars trip. George and Christina discuss the Mars One trip and why it's essential for humans to colonize the red planet.
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