The Art of Teaching

Adam Larby, Head of Tudor House at The King's School, is a passionate educator, thoughtful leader, and lifelong learner devoted to nurturing both character and curiosity. With years of leadership experience at Shore's North Sydney Preparatory School and a deep commitment to faith, family, and community, Adam brings a rich blend of wisdom, vision, and heart to his role. It's a conversation about leadership, legacy, and building a school culture where students and staff can truly thrive.

Next up on The Art of Teaching podcast is Stef Thom. With over 12 years in Catholic Education, Stef is a passionate, Highly Accomplished Lead Teacher known for building capacity in others. From leading in the classroom to advising the Minister for Education, Stef brings energy, faith, and purpose to everything she does. Let's dive into her inspiring journey.  

Today, we enter the world of Professor Sugata Mitra — TED Prize winner and creator of the Hole in the Wall experiment — whose work is reshaping how children learn. He has shown that with curiosity and connection, children can teach themselves — and each other. But in a world where learning organises itself, one question remains: do we still need teachers? Join me as we explore the space where technology empowers, autonomy flourishes, and human connection still matters. Even when learning finds its own path… a great teacher remains the guiding light.

Sarah is a graduate of Wheelock College in Boston, Massachusetts, and has over 26 years of experience as an elementary school teacher in San Jose, California. She was a Cotsen Foundation "The Art of Teaching" Fellow and has worked closely with Dr. Jo Boaler on integrating Big Ideas into elementary mathematics. Sarah is featured in Dr. Boaler's book Math-ish and will also appear in her forthcoming book on data education. A passionate educator, Sarah is deeply committed to a teaching philosophy rooted in a growth mindset, collaborative learning, and relationship-building.

Bronwyn Ryrie Jones designs and leads impactful professional learning for teachers and instructional leaders. With experience supporting over 30,000 educators across Australia and internationally, she is known for delivering clear, practical, and research-informed programs. Bron brings expertise from classroom teaching, instructional coaching, and teacher education at the University of Melbourne. She is respected for making complex research accessible and for understanding the challenges of teaching. A published author with Corwin Press, Bron regularly presents on responsive teaching, explicit instruction, and assessment. She collaborates with education systems and leadership organisations to create customised professional learning that drives real improvement in teaching practice.

I am thrilled to share the next episode of The Art of Teaching podcast! Following the success of The Thinking Classroom, Alice Vigors returns with a powerful new resource for educators: The Learning Classroom: Supporting Educators to Make Student Learning Visible, Shareable, Amplified and Meaningful. In this practical and research-informed guide, Alice offers strategies to help teachers create dynamic, student-centred classrooms where learning is visible, meaningful, and shared. This essential resource is perfect for educators looking to boost engagement, amplify student voice, and celebrate learning across their school community. Here is my first conversation with Alice: https://shorturl.at/KD1wz

Melinda is a teacher and coaching psychologist with 20+ years' experience supporting school staff and leaders. With research in compassion fatigue, burnout, and engagement, she offers evidence-based wellbeing support through coaching, facilitation, and strategic planning. Melinda has worked as a teacher, counsellor, consultant, educator, and general manager. She takes a compassionate, practical approach tailored to each school's context. Melinda is an Associate Certified Coach with the International Coach Federation.

Professor David Gurr is a global expert in educational leadership at the University of Melbourne. He has authored over 200 publications, presented at numerous conferences, and contributed to research projects worth more than $26 million. A founding member of key international leadership networks, he has supervised over 60 postgraduate research students and conducted more than 100 school reviews across Australia and internationally. David has held editorial roles in major education journals and received several honours from the Australian Council for Educational Leaders, including the prestigious Gold Medal. He also consults widely and holds fellowships with institutions in Hong Kong, the UK and Canada.

Dr Mitchell Gibbs is a lecturer and researcher at the University of New South Wales. He holds a Bachelor of Exercise Science, a Master of Research, and a PhD from Western Sydney University. His research centres on back pain, focusing on exercise and education through a biopsychosocial lens. Mitchell teaches musculoskeletal rehabilitation and strength and conditioning. With over 10 years of industry experience, he also consults on complex pain and in professional sport. It was a pleasure speaking with him about his journey and passion for teaching.

Shane Hatton is a leadership and culture expert, author, and speaker. With a background in business and psychology, he helps leaders build high-performing teams through better communication and connection. He's the author of Lead The Room and Let's Talk Culture, and hosts the podcast Phone Calls With Clever People. Shane has worked with top organisations like Microsoft and the Victorian Government, and his insights have been featured in Forbes and Harvard Business Review. As a Gallup Certified Strengths Coach and Forbes Coaches Council member, Shane equips leaders to shape culture and lead with impact.

Dr Phil Cummins is a global leader in education, character, and leadership. With over 30 years of experience, he leads a School for tomorrow. and CIRCLE Education, guiding schools to deliver purposeful learning. He's Associate Professor at Alphacrucis University College, co-host of the Game Changers podcast, and author of 30+ books. His four-book series—based on global research and conversations—guides students on a journey from purpose to impact. Drawing on work from CIRCLE, a School for tomorrow., and Game Changers, the series offers practical insights for personal growth and meaningful contribution. Phil's work is recognised through multiple prestigious fellowships.

Tom is a highly respected educational consultant, author, and former headteacher with more than 30 years of experience in schools. Renowned for championing evidence-informed teaching, he has written several influential books, including The Learning Rainforest, Rosenshine's Principles in Action, and Teaching WalkThrus (co-authored with Oliver Caviglioli). Through his blog, teacherhead.com, and international workshops, Tom empowers teachers and school leaders to implement research-based strategies that enhance classroom practice and support professional growth. https://walkthrus.co.uk/  

Today, it is a pleasure to release the 200th episode of The Art of Teaching. To mark this milestone, we're doing something a little different. The incredible Matt Pitman takes over the mic to interview me. We reflect on the biggest lessons I've learned from two hundred conversations with educators, leaders, and changemakers from around the world. Whether you've been here since Episode 1 or you're tuning in for the first time, thank you for being part of this journey. Let's dive into Episode 200 of The Art of Teaching Podcast. 

Summer Howarth is an education strategist, learning designer, and founder of The Eventful Learning Co. She works with schools, organisations, and governments to create powerful learning experiences. Her career includes teaching in NSW and the USA, lecturing at Sydney University, and leading innovation at AITSL. Summer has worked with partners like Zoos Victoria, The Prince's Trust Australia, and Google for Education. She supports student voice projects across Australia, advises education start-ups, and is on Beyond Blue's National Education Committee. A multi-time Educator Hotlist honouree and entrepreneur finalist, Summer is passionate about shaping the future of learning with purpose and heart.

Up next is a conversation that I recently had with John Cleary. John has recently stepped away from leading School and System Improvement at the Northern Territory Department of Education. Before this, he was the Principal of a primary school in Katherine. He also created the NT Learning Commission, which promotes student-led research and uses the Impact Evaluation Cycle. In 2018, John was named one of 12 National Schools Plus Teaching Fellows and has received national recognition for his work as a principal. He is currently working towards a doctorate at the University of Melbourne. This conversation took place during a beautiful wet season storm in Larrakia Country, so very occasionally John's connection drops out, but he comes right back.  Here is a resource that is referenced in our conversation:  https://www.cse.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/CSE-Leading-Education-Series24-June2024-secure.pdf

Steven Trotter, an experienced education leader, has spent over a decade as a principal, system leader, and senior leader. His book, The Art of Skimming Stones, introduces the SKIM Model—a practical approach to sustained school improvement. Unlike traditional leadership frameworks, SKIM focuses on intentional, subtle shifts that drive meaningful change. With a passion for professional learning, He equips educators and leaders with actionable strategies for lasting impact.  

Welcome to today's episode! I'm excited to have Alison Bonhomme with me. Alison is an inspiring leader with a Master's in Applied Positive Psychology, known for her dedication to community, personal growth, and making a positive impact. Alison is also the director of The Flourishing Workplace - I have placed a link to her website below.  In this conversation, we'll explore her journey, her work and how her background in positive psychology influences her approach to leadership and well-being. I hope that you enjoy this insightful conversation with Alison Bonhomme.

Welcome to today's episode! I'm excited to have Alison Bonhomme with me. Alison is an inspiring leader with a Master's in Applied Positive Psychology, known for her dedication to community, personal growth, and making a positive impact. Alison is also the director of The Flourishing Workplace - I have placed a link to her website below.  In this conversation, we'll explore her journey, her work and how her background in positive psychology influences her approach to leadership and well-being. I hope that you enjoy this insightful conversation with Alison Bonhomme.

Today, I'm especially excited to welcome our guest, Aziza Green—who also happens to be my wife. Aziza is a writer and digital marketing professional in publishing and the social impact sector. She's also a PhD research candidate studying digital literacy, bringing a unique perspective on how communities navigate the digital world. She covers the ever-evolving relationship between technology and society. We unpacked many things including what it's like to live with a teacher, how to support each other during stressful times and life as two working parents.

Today I'm joined by Scott O'Hara, a foundational principal with a unique background. Before entering education, Scott worked as a chef in Australia and the UK. As a foundational principal, Scott is passionate about creating positive school cultures where students and staff are excited to attend school daily. He focuses on innovative, student-centred learning that engages and inspires. Outside of work, Scott is a father, and grandfather, and enjoys photography, drones, and motorsport.

Up next is a conversation with Dr William DeJean the founder of Unleash Learning™, a global organisation dedicated to helping educators and leaders ensure learning sticks. With over 25 years of experience, he has worked with thousands of teachers, schools, and organisations to embed lasting learning practices. A former high school teacher in San Diego, Dr DeJean was recognised as Teacher of the Year among 26,000 educators. He holds a master's and doctorate in education and has lectured at universities in the U.S. and Australia. His work combines research-driven strategies with real-world applications to create transformational learning experiences. He travels internationally, supporting schools and organisations to implement the Unleash Learning™ system, ensuring that all learners' learning is engaging, inclusive, and retained.

Today, I am delighted to share another episode with you. Here is a recent conversation with the brilliant Mathew Dodd, Principal at Southern Cross Grammar. He is a passionate school leader dedicated to learning, leadership, and school transformation. With extensive experience in coaching, culture-building, strategy, and curriculum development, Mathew shares insights on the challenges and innovations shaping education today. Prepare for an inspiring discussion with practical strategies and expert perspectives to help educators and leaders thrive.

Today, we're joined by Bernii Godwin, a dedicated educator and behaviour specialist with over two decades of experience in transforming school and family cultures. With a master's in Social Work, a Graduate Certificate in Neuropsychotherapy, and a background in criminology and youth justice, she brings a wealth of knowledge to her work. Bernii helps schools, children, and families create internally responsible behaviour cultures that foster healthy boundaries, respect, and love. Her expertise has led to powerful cultural shifts, moving communities away from fear and control toward trust, honour, and joyful responsibility. As a Loving on Purpose Trainer, a John Maxwell Team Member, and a Maxwell Method DISC Consultant, Bernii empowers educators and families with tools to cultivate lasting change. In this episode, she shares insights on behaviour, leadership, and the transformative power of connection. Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation that will inspire positive change in education and beyond!

Welcome to today's episode! Math (or maths!) is more than just numbers—it's a part of everyday life, but how we connect with it is different for everyone. For some, it builds confidence, while for others, it can bring anxiety. Professor. Jo Boaler, a Stanford researcher and expert in math education, has a fresh perspective. In her book Math-Ish, she introduces the concept of math as a dynamic, real-world process, embracing diverse learning styles and approaches. Her research shows that when we celebrate these differences, we unlock our true potential in math. Please stick with us as we dive into this revolutionary view of learning! Here is my first conversation with her: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/professor-jo-boaler-developing-mindsets-embracing-failure/id1552506400?i=1000630363973 Connect:

Dr Simon Breakspear is a researcher, advisor, and speaker specialising in educational leadership and change, creating practical tools and frameworks to support over 100,000 educators worldwide. The Pruning Principle helps schools focus on what truly matters by cutting out non-essential tasks and initiatives, leading to better outcomes with fewer resources. This guide offers a clear approach to streamline processes, prioritise sustainable work rhythms, and make smarter decisions, all while promoting staff wellbeing and aiming for achievable, impactful improvements.

The integration of technology in educational contexts presents significant challenges for both teachers and students. Selecting the most appropriate technological solution can be equally difficult. Familiarity often dictates our choices, as we tend to rely on tools we know and trust. Even the most advanced technologies will fail to achieve the desired outcomes if educators lack the time, skills, or resources required to use them effectively. Get Involved: Help Shape the Future of Technology in Education! We invite teachers to participate in an exciting research project designed to make selecting and integrating technology in the classroom simpler and more effective. By joining this initiative, you will learn how to use the LANES framework, a practical tool to guide your technology choices and enhance your teaching practice. What's Involved? 1-Hour Professional Learning Session: Gain hands-on experience with the LANES framework through reflection and example lesson activities. Exclusive Access to Resources: You'll receive the framework poster, a lesson planning tool, and other practical resources to support your teaching. Pre- and Post-Integration Survey: Provide feedback on your experience with the framework to help us improve and refine it. Why Participate? Enhance Your Skills: Learn a structured, time-saving approach to selecting technology that works for your classroom. Practical Resources: Walk away with tools you can immediately apply in your teaching. Contribute to Research: Your insights and feedback will help us refine the framework, ensuring it meets the needs of teachers like you. This is a unique opportunity to engage in professional learning, access valuable resources, and play an active role in shaping a tool that could benefit teachers and students. Sign up today to be part of this impactful research! Click here to be involved  

Kylie Captain is a proud Gamilaroi woman, best-selling author, and educator with over 20 years of experience in education, finance, and community services. As President of the Aboriginal Studies Association and Founder of Dream Big Education Wellbeing, Kylie promotes leadership, cultural awareness, and Aboriginal educational excellence. She has delivered influential workshops across Australia, positively impacting individuals and organizations. In 2024, Kylie was a finalist for the NSW Woman of the Year Award in the Aboriginal Woman of the Year category. Her third book, published at the Sydney Opera House, underscores her dedication to driving positive change and empowering communities.

I'm pleased to share a recent conversation I had with Justine Toh. Justine writes about cultural trends and contemporary beliefs in the Australian media and is the author of the mini-book Achievement Addiction. Her work encourages us to question society's obsession with achievement and external validation. Whether it's academic scores, property ownership, or career success, we often tie our self-worth to measurable outcomes. Justine challenges us to reassess why we strive so relentlessly and whether redefining success on our own terms is possible.  

  Aaron has 16 years of experience in New South Wales schools, starting as a casual teacher and working in roles like classroom teacher and wellbeing officer. He's all about continuous growth, hosting The Teacher Takeaway Podcast and sharing tips and resources on his social media, Mr J's Learning Space. Now an assistant principal for curriculum and instruction, Aaron loves helping teachers improve their practice and making learning better for everyone.   Connect:

Alice Leung is a passionate educator, a self-confessed tech enthusiast and a Taylor Swift super-fan. Whether she's sharing her daily teaching routines or juggling life as a parent, Alice uses social media to offer a genuine, behind-the-scenes look at the rewards and challenges of being a teacher. From embracing technology in the classroom to finding the balance between career and family, Alice's journey is a testament to the love and dedication she brings to the profession. I can't wait to share this episode with you.    

Up next is a conversation with Mark Parry. He is an award-winning instructional designer, educator, and digital content producer with over 30 years of experience in teaching, curriculum development, digital media production, and professional development for teachers. He has worked across a wide range of educational settings, including K-12 schools, vocational training, higher education, corporate training, and community education.

Up next is a conversation that I recently had with Sam White—a passionate leader in the independent education sector with decades of experience. Sam is deeply committed to fostering kindness and empathy among his students. In our conversation, we delve into his insights on effective teaching and leadership and the importance of building strong relationships in education. I hope you find this discussion as inspiring and valuable as I did. Join us as we explore Sam's experiences and perspectives on creating a positive impact in the lives of young learners. Connect:

Donna Wright is an accomplished educational leader with over a decade of experience as a Principal in both Victoria's Government schools and Western Australia's Independent School Sector. She was named Australian Principal of the Year for both sectors in 2020, highlighting her dedication to educational excellence and innovation. Donna holds multiple degrees, including a Bachelor of Education and a Master of Education, which enrich her understanding of educational and legal frameworks. In 2024, she was a UNESCO speaker and has received several accolades, including the National Excellence Award for Indigenous Programs and Victoria's Marrung Education Leader Award in 2023. A frequent presenter at prestigious conferences, she is committed to fostering strong relationships among school stakeholders and pioneering innovative practices in education. Wright strives to inspire others through her leadership and dedication to advancing educational outcomes.

"The Next Word" with Dr. Nick Jackson and Matthew Esterman is a must-listen for educators navigating the rapidly evolving landscape of education technology. This podcast delivers practical advice and real-world examples, empowering teachers worldwide to integrate AI seamlessly into their classrooms. Whether you're a seasoned educator or just starting, you'll gain valuable insights to understand and embrace the profound impact of technology on teaching and learning. Tune in for innovative strategies, expert perspectives, and actionable takeaways that will help shape the future of education.

Dr. John Delony is a mental health expert, author, and speaker committed to helping people navigate personal struggles and build healthier relationships. With over two decades of experience as a professor, university administrator, and crisis responder, he holds two PhDs—one in Counselor Education and Supervision, and the other in Higher Education Administration. Dr. Delony is known for his practical, research-based advice on mental health, anxiety, and emotional well-being, which he shares through his books and "The Dr. John Delony Show." He aims to empower individuals to manage stress, heal from past traumas, and cultivate stronger, more fulfilling connections in their lives.    

I recently had a great conversation with Dylan and Hayden from Teach Sleep Repeat. Their podcast is a perfect blend of lighthearted fun and thoughtful insights into the world of education. Expect plenty of laughs, rants, and some playful silliness as they share stories, offer fresh perspectives, and provide a relatable take on life as primary school teachers. The Art of Teaching Podcast

Today, I am excited to share another insightful conversation with you. A little while ago, I spoke with Dan Rodgers, a passionate educator from Melbourne, Australia. Dan is a graduate teacher from the University of Melbourne, where he earned his Master of Primary Teaching. A proud alumnus of Oxley Christian College where he graduated in the class of 2007, he has since completed an undergraduate degree at Bible College. In addition to his academic journey, Dan has immersed himself in sport—both playing and watching—and worked across various roles. He is now eager to begin his teaching career with Year 6, bringing his rich experiences and enthusiasm into the classroom.

  Today, I am pleased to share a snippet of a larger conversation with the amazing Dr Paul Kidson. His teaching and research explores how school leaders work within and critically transform their professional lives. In this fascinating conversation,  We talked about managing and keeping tension, self-care and post-critical theory.  Here is the full conversation:  https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dr-paul-kidson-delusions-of-grandeur-understanding/id1552506400?i=1000632963464  

Here is another conversation with a brilliant educator. With over 30 years of educational experience, including 25 in leadership roles, Brad Gyanor is currently a Performance Improvement Leader, working with schools across the ACT and NSW. He has served as President of the Australian Catholic Primary Principals Association and as a Board Director for both the ACPPA and the Australian Primary Principals Association. Recognized as Primary Principal of the Year in 2018, Brad specializes in leadership coaching, school culture, change management, and team development.

Today, we're joined by Matt Pitman, an experienced educational leader passionate about creating learning environments that inspire entrepreneurial thinking, curiosity, and creative and critical thought. We'll also dive into the Connection Curriculum, a powerful framework focused on collective leadership and community engagement. It's all about equipping educators with the tools to build thriving, connected communities through collaboration and shared responsibility. Stay tuned for an insightful conversation!

Welcome to The Art of Teaching Podcast! Today, we're joined by Matt Pittman, an experienced educational leader who is passionate about creating learning environments that inspire entrepreneurial thinking, curiosity, and creative and critical thought. We'll also dive into The Connection Curriculum, a powerful framework focused on collective leadership and community engagement. It's all about equipping educators with the tools to build thriving, connected communities through collaboration and shared responsibility. Stay tuned for an insightful conversation!"

Have you ever wondered What drives people to find their purpose in life?  This is a question that has fascinated Kerrin Smith for over a decade. His journey began as a school teacher, where he sought to unlock the potential of his students and team. He quickly recognised how his team's expertise directly influenced student success, sparking his passion for creating environments where people can thrive. After leaving the classroom, Kerrin transitioned into consulting, designing and delivering workshops across Australia to help leaders develop their personal and professional skills. His work fosters growth, nurtures talent, and empowers individuals to discover their purpose and achieve their full potential.  Connect with Kerrin here: https://www.theelevatedapproach.com.au/our-approach

Today I have a different type of episode. I recently had the opportunity to speak with Phil Murdoch who is a specialist Design Teacher, AI education Trainer and the host of The Tattooed Teacher Podcast. Phil has just launched his podcast and he has had some amazing guests. So, this conversation was when I had the opportunity to be interviewed by him. I am not used to being on the other side of the microphone, but I enjoyed every minute of it. I hope that you get something out of it and that you take the time to subscribe to The Tattooed Teacher Podcast Here is the original audio:  https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mathew-green/id1749245520?i=1000666183236 Here is my conversation with Phil on The Art of Teaching Podcast: Phil Murdoch: Artificial intelligence, embracing failure and the future of schooling.  

It's my pleasure to share a recent conversation with Dr Jonathon Mascorella the Director of Innovation at Loreto Kirribilli. Jonathon is an educator and mentor who is passionate about unlocking individual potential through innovative teaching methods and agile learning practices. With a PhD in power dynamics and policy, he brings a deep understanding of how stakeholders collaborate to shape ideas and implement strategies, fostering an environment where creativity and growth thrive.

Today, I'm delighted to share a recent conversation I had with three remarkable individuals: Dr. Dion Tuckwell, a communication design lecturer; Dr. Fiona Young, an architect and researcher specializing in learning environments from Hayball Architects; and Jackie Vaughan, the Foundation Principal of Evelyn Scott School. These inspiring professionals were all integral in the design and construction of Evelyn Scott School. It was an honour to be part of this discussion, and I hope you find it as insightful and inspiring as I did.

It is my great pleasure to re-introduce Mitchell Hemphill. Mitchell is s school principal and leader from Canada. The first time we spoke I was about a year ago and we discussed Finding your purpose, learning to listen and developing a cohesive school community. In this conversation, it felt as though we picked up right where we left off. We talked about self-leadership, starting in a new school, and the importance of embracing leadership diversity.  Here is my first conversation with him: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-art-of-teaching/id1552506400?i=1000631708172 It was a privilege to talk again with Mitchell.

Dr Tom Porta is an academic, educator, researcher, and author.  Tom focuses on inclusive education and differentiated instruction. He completed his PhD in Inclusive Education in 2023. As a Lecturer and educator, he is dedicated to helping schools implement inclusive education practices. With over a decade of experience teaching in primary and secondary settings, plus four years in tertiary education, Tom has delved into inclusive education, numeracy, learning difficulties, disabilities, and developing programs for students with high support needs.

Today I have the great pleasure of sharing a recent conversation with Simon Smart.  Simon is the Executive Director of the Centre for Public Christianity. A former English and History teacher, Simon has a Masters in Christian Studies from Regent College, Vancouver. He has just released a new book The End of Men? Simon draws on his own experiences of schooling and fatherhood, the best contemporary research, interviews with those on the front lines of a growing crisis, as well as ancient wisdom He asks, "How can we help boys become their best selves and a gift to those around them?” His writing has appeared in places like The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, the ABC, The Australian, and The Guardian. He also regularly appears on ABC's The Drum.  I hope that you enjoy this conversation that I had with Simon Smart.

Today I have the pleasure of introducing you to a recent conversation with the amazing Dr Tim Sharp. Dr Tim is the Chief Happiness Officer at The Happiness Institute.  An internationally renowned leader in Positive Psychology he is a sought-after Speaker and Facilitator, Consultant and Coach, Writer and Podcaster, Spokesperson and Brand Ambassador. In this episode we talked about his amazing new book Lost and Found, embracing failure and learning from our mistakes and the transformative power of awe. In this conversation, Dr Tim talked about his struggles with mental health and suicide. If you or someone you know needs support, please reach out via https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/mentalhealth/services/Pages/default.aspx.     

It is my pleasure today to introduce you to a dear friend of mine Oyelola Oyetunji.  After eight years of working in professional consulting, she made a career pivot. Oyelola now works as a writer who creates empathy-empowered content to help businesses construct powerful messages. Her business is called Phrased with Purpose.  She is one of the most gifted leaders that I know and truly knows what it means to lead with empathy and compassion.  It is a privilege to introduce you to her and her amazing work. .

Today, I have the privilege of sharing a recent conversation with Rohan Dredge. I have known Rohan and his incredible wife Megan for nearly 25 years. He has consistently been a guiding leadership voice in my life. With a Master's in Educational Psychology and extensive experience as an executive coach, Rohan has trained some of Australia's most impressive business leaders. Rohan has an innate talent for identifying blind spots in individuals, teams, and organizations. He crafts effective strategies that enhance workplace culture and significantly boost performance outcomes. He is currently the CEO of a remarkable organisation called Pragmatic Thinking. I hope you find this conversation as insightful as I did. You can connect with me here: