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We go through some of the best things we have heard from the guests we have had on the show this week. We also dive more into some of our listeners worst days at work. // Four Down Territory: 1st Down: Do you agree with your boy B Walters on his evaluation of DK Metcalf? 2nd Down: What part of Cooper Kupp’s game may be underappreciated? 3rd Down: What idea does Jason Kelce have that you feel would be a good way to settle a controversial issue? 4th Down: What's something Pat Mahomes said that you agree with? // Farm Report: we have a conversation with Mariners catcher Harry Ford. He talks about whether he sees himself playing catcher long term and what he likes about the position. // What I Need To Know 

We cover the top 8 sports stories of the day in the OCHO 1. The Kraken hire Lane Lambert 2. Stanley Cup Finals are set 3. Still waiting on a team from the east for the NBA Finals 4. Storm host the Dream 5. Mariners blow it late against the Nats 6. There's something going on in Tacoma 7. Seahawks OTAs 8. The Mike Leach rule :30- Harry Ford and Cole Young have everyone talking about Tacoma; is it time to call them up? Where do you play them and who gets sent down? :45- We had John Boyle on yesterday and he told us about the Seahawks Top 50 list coming out next week- where will Russell Wilson come in?

Bump and Stacy are joined by the host of the Over-Slot Podcast Joe Doyle to discuss how Cole Young and Harry Ford have been playing in Tacoma and some names to watch for in the MLB Draft, they give you their thoughts on OKC advancing to the NBA Finals and the controversy surrounding Bears QB Caleb Williams in Headline Rewrites, they bring you the biggest stories around the NFL, including what Ravens head coach John Harbaugh had to say about cutting Justin Tucker, and they break down what the Mariners need to do to make a real playoff run. 

MIKE SANDO (The Athletic) joins the show as we check in around the league now that OTAs are underway. Could Aaron Rodgers end up in Pittsburgh? Jalen Milroe's future as a Seahawk. The Seahawks had a bold offseason, but did they get better? The Seahawks weren't the only ones making moves this offseason; how did the NFC West do? :30- ABCs of the Mariners - M is for multiple homers- Cal Raleigh does it again last night! - N is for NCAA tournament- we might be a bit more invested in this year's tourney with the Mariners picking at #3 in the draft. - O is for odd-man out- how can Harry Ford have a future in the Mariners organization? :45- We wrap up the show with one last thing!

Bump and Curtis break down what elements of this Mariners team are real and which aren’t, they give you their thoughts on the NBA Playoffs and EA Sports’ College Football 26 in Headline Rewrites, they ask if it is time for the Mariners to call up top prospects Cole Young and Harry Ford, and they look at whether the Mariners can make a six man pitching rotation work. 

Headlines and the Oklahoma City Thunder are 1 win away from the NBA Finals. Can the Timberwolves mount a comeback? :30- ABCs of the Mariners - J is for Jorge- you don't have to look too far to figure out why the Mariners aren't as good offensively lately; Jorge has dropped back down to Earth since April. - K is for kids- the kids in Tacoma are getting a lot of attention. Could Cole Young or Harry Ford be called up soon? - L is for lollygaggers- the team was struggling to get things done on the last day of the roadtrip. :45- The Mariners host the Nationals starting tonight at T Mobile Park. Who is this Nationals team? Not your Father's Nationals, that's for sure. This organization is looking good after trading Juan Soto a few years ago. There's a lot of new faces and these youngsters are on the way up.

DANIEL KRAMER (MLB.com) joins us to discuss the Mariners road trip, including a rough ending to the otherwise pretty solid 10 games. Is there a real possibility of the Mariners heading to a 6-man rotation? Is Daniel hearing any rumblings about Harry Ford or Cole Young being brought up? :30- Flag Football will debut at the 2028 Summer Olympics and NFL players want to participate, but some people are VERY angry! Do the Pro Flag football guys have a right to be upset? How about a game to hash it all out and determine the team? We are IN! :45- We close out the show with one last thing.

RUNDOWN   Episode 336 opens with Mitch and Hotshot back in full form, celebrating the triumphant return of the area code gimmick — this time, 336, home to Greensboro, North Carolina. Mitch dives into the city's hidden gems and famous natives, from Counting Crows bassist Millard Powers to NBA legend Bob McAdoo and Tecmo-Bowl hero Haywood Jeffires. Along the way, we get Billy Crash Craddock trivia, a “plug it in” moment, and a savage grocery store showdown involving a rogue bagger and a flustered Mitch. Emmy-winning filmmaker Rebecca Gitlitz joins the show to discuss her explosive new Netflix documentary, Untold: The Fall of Favre. The interview explores why Jen Sterger's story is only now being fully heard, the disturbing details of Favre's alleged role in the Mississippi welfare scandal, and how Gitlitz navigated fairness, fact-checking, and silence from Favre's camp. In sports, the guys unpack the Mariners' frustrating four-game set in Houston. Despite momentum going in, Seattle drops three of four, and Mitch explores why left-handed pitching continues to be their kryptonite. That sets the table for this week's Mariners No-Table with Joe Doyle and Brady Farkas, where they break down the Astros series, analyze lineup matchups, bullpen handling, and offer a blunt assessment: the M's need a right-handed bat — badly. Finally, prospect guru Jason Churchill returns to profile the Mariners' red-hot farm system. Churchill explains why he wouldn't trade Seattle's top 8 prospects for any other organization in baseball. The two dig into Cole Young's AAA breakout, Juan Soto's switch-pitching uniqueness, and how Colt Emerson and Harry Ford could fit into Seattle's long-term plans.   GUESTS   Rebecca Gitlitz | Director, Untold: The Fall of Favre (Netflix) Joe Doyle | MLB Draft/Prospect Analyst, OverSlot Brady Farkas | Host, Refuse to Lose Podcast Jason Churchill | Founder, Prospect Insider   TABLE OF CONTENTS   0:00 | Mitch revives the area code tradition with a Greensboro deep dive, featuring Counting Crows, Chris Daughtry, and a grocery store diss worthy of a flagrant foul. 21:30 | Mariners lose 3 of 4 in Houston — Mitch highlights the ongoing struggle against left-handed pitching and the lineup shake-ups it forces. 38:52 | Guest: Rebecca Gitlitz – Gitlitz breaks down the Brett Favre doc, Jen Sterger's unheard truth, the Mississippi welfare scandal, and why no one is a one-dimensional villain. 54:14 | Guest: Mariners' No-Table, Brady Farkas & Joe Doyle – dig into the Astros series fallout, bullpen management, right-handed bat urgency, and potential trade targets. Also: Harry Ford's value, Kirby's outing, and bold predictions for the week ahead. 1:15:52 | Guest: Jason Churchill – ranks the Mariners' top prospects, outlines Cole Young's readiness, evaluates switch-pitcher Juan Soto, and explains why he's buying stock in Colt Emerson. 1:45:38 | The Other Stuff Segment – why Hotshot bags groceries like a Safeway veteran, Counting Crows at Marymoor, and a shoutout to the best closer in baseball: Andrés Muñoz.

Lyle Goldstein and TJ Mathewson of the Marine Layer Podcast dive in on the difference in Mariners offene between April and May. Which one feels more real? Can it balance out somewhere in the middle? They also discuss their level of concern with Jorge Polanco's injury and how he's only available to play in one role, and if the we could see prospects Cole Young and Harry Ford called up soon.

Cal Raleigh joins Shannon Drayer for the Cal Raleigh show to talk about Luis Castillo’s Fastball, The Mariners record on the road and much, much more. Bob and Dave react to Shannon and Cal’s conversation and talk about Cal’s workload and where Harry Ford might fit into the equation. They talk about the new-look Seahawks Wide Receiver room and what their expectations are for the unit under new Offensive Coordinator Klint Kubiak. And they talk about how George Kirby’s return could vault the Mariners’ rotation back to the top of the league.

Headlines and ANDY MCKAY (Mariners VP * Assistant GM) joins the show to give us his insight on all things Mariners - George Kirby's return and getting the starting rotation back to being healthy - What about the Mariners 28-20 record surprises him? - How is the team bouncing back from tough losses more quickly? - Cole Young's possible call up - What is Harry Ford's future in this organization? - The fascinating prospect- Jurrangelo Cijntje :30- The next Hard Knocks team has been announced- would we like to see the Seahawks on the show and are looking forward to watching the Bills? :45- George Kirby is getting the start in Houston tonight and we are pumped for the return of The Crippler!

Brock and Salk look back at the Mariners win in game one of the White Sox series and also wonder why the Mariners pitchers have been throwing a little bit harder as of late. They also talk through a couple of baseball questions, including the White Sox, Donovan Solano and Harry Ford. In Blue 88, Brock takes a look at the Seahawks preseason schedule, if the Seahawks will finally be on Hard Knocks and what constantly jumps out about Jalen Milroe's game film.

In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Mina Kimes from ESPN about Bill Belichick, the Browns, the Seahawks, Aaron Rodgers, and the Mariners, then they hear from Dan Wilson and sit down with Tacoma Rainiers' star catcher Harry Ford.

Tacoma Rainiers catcher Harry Ford joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss being in Tacoma now, his offensive numbers this year, his adjustment to AAA, Spring Training with the Mariners under Dan Wilson, his future position, and his recent mission.

Headlines and we continue our Mariners positional preview with a look at the Catchers and infield. - We're in a pretty good spot as far as catchers go - What does Cal's extension mean for Harry Ford? - Can Cal improve even more this year? Offensively, we think so. - Then there's the infield and all of it's question marks… :30- There was one common theme that kept popping up during yesterday's SOTU Roundtable- the job security of our 3 GM's. - The same questions keep popping up in regards to Jerry- does he have what it takes to help this team win now? - John Schneider stepped out from behind Pete's shadow and now all eyes are on him- does he have what it takes to get the Seahawks back to the Super Bowl? - Can Ron Francis make the right moves with this young franchise to get them back to the playoffs? :45- It's time to get Reckless at Breakfast and Chuck says it's time to get rid of the NCAA. Yesterday, the CBB transfer portal opened… in the middle of the tournament?!?!? Did we not learn anything from College Football? Turn it into professional sports and have a commissioner run everything, because the NCAA can't handle it.

Bob and Dave are joined by Mariners catcher Harry Ford to get his thoughts on how he did last season in the minor leagues and what it’s been like to work with the team in Spring Training, they ask if we should be expecting Harry Ford in the big leagues this season, and they hear what Jimmy Johnson said about his retirement from FOX NFL Sunday in Sweeping the Dial. 

Headlines and our Seahawks insider Gregg Bell (Tacoma News Tribune) joins the show with the latest 12th Man news and combine info. Rayshawn Jenkins wants out Geno's new contract isn't a sure thing. :30- Harry Ford has had a good Spring Training so far- is there a place for him on the big league roster? Chuck thinks he will help this team win, although it may not be in a Mariners uniform; could they deal him? :45- Chuck and Anders had a conversation about Kevin Durant yesterday and after the show, he went out and did exactly what they talked about and proved them right.

Bob and Dave compare their confidence levels in the Seahawks current situation compared to this time last season, they try to answer some of the biggest questions surrounding this team, including what they’ll do to fix the offensive line and Geno Smioth’s future in Seattle, they ask if Emerson Hancock and Harry Ford are more valuable to the Mariners as trade pieces this season, and they hear what Devon Witherspoon said about matching up with Marvin Harrison Jr. 

In the season finale of the Total Bases Podcast, Felipe flies solo and takes a look at the National Fantasy Baseball Championship (NFBC) Average Draft Position (ADP) and gives a quick initial reaction at every position before he starts digging deep for sleeper players at every position. Here are the players spotlighted and the rank at their respective positions: Catcher: Danny Jansen (#30), Harry Ford (#31), Edgar Quero (#44) First Base: Deyvision De Los Santos (#54) Second Base: Thairo Estrada (#51) Shortstop: Luisangel Acuna (#32) Third Base: Noelvi Marte (#26) Outfield: Roman Anthony (#64) Pitcher: Ryan Weathers (#270)

Hello Seattle Mariners fans! John Trupin, Evan James and prospect expert Max Ellingsen are back to recap a mostly sterling 2024 season for down on the farm. Obviously you've heard legend of the AA playoff run with stars like Cole Young and Harry Ford shining brightly, but what of Colt Emerson in the Fall League? Who else deserves a shout out as we close the book on the 2024 minor league season? https://mybookie.website/MeetAtTheMitt TWITTER LINKS: https://twitter.com/MeetattheMitt https://twitter.com/LookoutLanding https://twitter.com/JohnTrupin https://twitter.com/KatePreusser https://twitter.com/EvanJamesAudio https://twitter.com/AndersJorstad https://twitter.com/RealZachMason https://x.com/EllingsenMax18 https://macdougallbats.com/ We are partnering with MY BOOKIE to give you an extra 50% on your first deposit! Follow our link to sign-up: https://mybookie.website/MeetAtTheMitt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's Daily Puck Drop, Jason “Puck” Puckett and Jim Moore,  discuss the challenges of moving, the stress it brings, and the humorous moments that arise from it. They also touch on technical difficulties during a live show, the antics of dogs in a park, and delve into the dynamics of college football and NIL money. Puck and Moore  talk about the role of sports media, including  the dynamics between sports figures and media, and the challenges of maintaining journalistic integrity while being partnered with sports teams. They delve into the implications of Jerry Jones' threats to media hosts, the ethics of sports reporting. Rob Staton, SeahawksDraftBlog.com, on the poor performance of the Seahawks OL.  How culpable is John Schneider?  Are the Seahawks even a playoff team at this point?  We agree that Geno Smith is a good quarterback , but not good enough to win you a Super Bowl and the team right now has a serious lack of veteran leadership and that's a major red flag for Mike Macdonald. Puck and Rob  discuss the evolving landscape of college football  and its impact on NFL preparation , particularly for offensive linemen. They analyze the current state of the Seahawks, focusing on team dynamics, leadership issues, and coaching challenges. The discussion also highlights the importance of accountability within the team and reaction to what Tyler Lockett said about the team not being prepared. Ryan Divish, Seattle Times, joins for his weekly offseason Mariners talk and they focus on the future of catcher Cal Raleigh.  Does Cal want to be here full-time?  What would it cost the organization to keep him around if they offer a contract extension?  Would Cal consider dropping Scott Boras as his agent?  If they eventually part ways with Cal, how ready is Harry Ford?Puck and Divish  touch  on the dynamics between players and management, emphasizing the need for clear communication and the number one goal for Cal is to win a championship and is that something he can do in Seattle?Finally, “Hey, What the Puck?” Jerry Jones situation in Dallas with the sports radio host highlights an issue in modern day sports broadcasting.  Too many media outlets are now partners with sports teams, thus it prevents the personalities from really being critical of the team because you don't want to damage the relationship. For the teams, it's perfect. You have a nice, safe, comfortable space to talk.   Also, emotional scene last night in Columbus as the Blue Jackets honored the late Johnny Gaudreau. Rundown00:00 Jim has moved and he's doing the show from a park with kids lighting off bottle rockets….Jim and Puck cover the Jerry Jones situation and how we would have handled a owner of a team telling us they he could take our jobs.  Jim recalls his story with Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto, when he told Jerry in an interview that his kids 15 year old baseball team could field better than the M's. 30:27 Rob Staton, SeahawksDraftBlog..com, on the poor performance of the Seahawks OL.  How culpable is John Schneider?  Are the Seahawks even a playoff team at this point?  We agree that Geno Smith is a good quarterback , but not good enough to win you a Super Bowl and the team right now has a serious lack of veteran leadership and that's a major red flag for Mike Macdonald. 01:01:50 Ryan Divish, Seattle Times, joins for his weekly offseason Mariners talk and they focus on the future of catcher Cal Raleigh.  Does Cal want to be here full-time?  What would it cost the organization to keep him around if they offer a contract extension?  Would Cal consider dropping Scott Boras as his agent?  If they eventually part ways with Cal, how ready is Harry Ford?01:41:30 “Hey, What the Puck?” Jerry Jones situation in Dallas with the sports radio host highlights an issue in modern day sports broadcasting.  Too many media outlets are now partners with sports teams, thus it prevents the personalities from really being critical of the team because you don't want to damage the relationship. For the teams, it's perfect. You have a nice, safe, comfortable space to talk.   Also, emotional scene last night in Columbus as the Blue Jackets honored the late Johnny Gaudreau. 

Ryan Divish, Seattle Times, joins for his weekly offseason Mariners talk and they focus on the future of catcher Cal Raleigh.  Does Cal want to be here full-time?  What would it cost the organization to keep him around if they offer a contract extension?  Would Cal consider dropping Scott Boras as his agent?  If they eventually part ways with Cal, how ready is Harry Ford?Puck and Divish  touch  on the dynamics between players and management, emphasizing the need for clear communication and the number one goal for Cal is to win a championship and is that something he can do in Seattle?

It's the unofficial end to the summer series, dropping a day or two before summer actually ends -- but we waited until #XLessDrEarl was back in studio!  And here he is, joining d$ and Mikey as they count down their all time 10 favorite films ever (and give 11 thru 20 later on in the show) Mikey and d$ have a recap of the All Time Top 10 given in Eps 214 and 218 (back in March of 2016), but for #XLessDrEarl, its a brand new list that none of us had ever heard. And after a lengthy discussion on the films of Ernest, we dive in to the all time top ten... of course there is some crossover, and a little movement from previous lists to now -- and only a smattering of pretention.  You'll hear about Harry Ford and Michael Mann. Some Tom Hanks and Audrey Hepburn.  Morgan Freeman and Play It Again Sam... films from 1942 all the way up to 2010. It was a great list to discuss and we'd love to know YOUR faves too. Here are movies discussed and where to find them streaming at time of recording: Almost Famous - MGM+ Andre Rublev The Big Lebowski - rental Blade Runner - rental Casablanca - MAX Chariots of Fire - rental Clerks - Netflix Days of Heaven - Criterion Channel The Empire Strikes Back - Disney+ The Godfather - Paramount+ Heat - Showtime Inception - rental The Last of the Mohicans - TubiTV Lawrence of Arabia - Amazon Prime The Mission - rental The Princess Bride - Disney+ Pulp Fiction - Amazon Prime; Paramount+; AMC+ Raiders of the Lost Ark - Disney+ Roman Holiday - rental The Seventh Seal - MAX; Criterion Channel The Shawshank Redemption - TBS; rental Star Wars - Disney+ Titanic - Paramount+ To Kill a Mockingbird - TubiTV True Romance - rental You've Got Mail - rental

Jason "Puck" Puckett, former KJR host and Ryan Divish, Seattle Times discuss the M's trade for Randy Arozarena.  Puck and Divish discuss the process of the trade, the players involved, and the impact it will have on the team. They also speculate on potential future trades and the team's overall strategy. The conversation touches on topics such as the Mariners' need for a left-handed bat, the defensive shortcomings of Arozarena and the possibility of trading  Harry Ford at the deadline and if they don't will they move him in the offseason or would they move Cal Raleigh to pave the way for Ford?Rundown00:00 Breaking down the trade for Randy Arozarena 03:09 How was the timeline of the trade that broke last night by Adam Jude of the Seattle Times. Ryan takes Puck behind the scenes06:59 What did the Mariners give up?Was Ryan surprised that they didn't have to dip into a prospect in their top 10?11:52 How much will Arozarena benefit the Mariners offense?  People need to be concerned about Randy's defense 15:53 What other holes do the M's need to fill?19:57 Future Trades and Team Strategy23:03 The M's need to find a back up catcher and bullpen arm 23:52 Does Ryan feel like another major move is coming?

Reporting Live from the 2024 MLB Futures Game at Global Life Field: The Black Baseball Mixtape is proud to share with you on-the-field interviews with Marines #2 Prospect Harry Ford, Rays #13 Prospect Tre Morgan, and Rangers #1 Prospect Sebastian Walcott. The Futures Game is quickly becoming one of the most anticipated events of MLB All-Star Week. If you ask me (which no one has), I'd make the game a full nine innings. It's such a great platform to highlight the future of the game. If you like this podcast, please subscribe, rate, and leave a comment everywhere podcasts are available. The Black Baseball Mixtape Podcast partners with Steelo Sports, the Players Alliance, Herencia 21, and Numbers Game Scorecards. If you'd like to partner with the Black Baseball Mixtape, please email BlackBaseballMixtape@gmail.com

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Jason "Puck" Puckett, former KJR host  and Bill Krueger, ROOT Sports,  discuss the recent Mariners games against the Kansas City Royals, focusing on the Royals' unique playing style and the Mariners' performance. They also analyze the effectiveness of pitcher George Kirby and the strategic decision to move him to the right-hand side of the rubber. The conversation touches on the Mariners' bullpen needs, the injury to Ty France, the emergence of Ryan Bliss and Harry Ford, and the potential pursuit of Vlad Guerrero Jr. They also discuss the catching situation with Mitch Garver and Cal Raleigh. Rundown00:00 The  Kansas City Royals are one tough team and a major problem 03:57 Analyzing George Kirby's Success and Tactical Changes07:36 The Mariners' Need to Strengthen the Bullpen10:31 Opportunities for Ryan Bliss and Tyler Locklear 13:40 Mixed Opinions on Pursuing Vlad Guerrero Jr.23:54 What's up with the catching situation?

  Who is the best pitcher in the Mariners rotation right now and how would you reset 1-5? -Woo is the best right now and is the "fifth" starter-reshuffling the rotation: agree that Castillo would be #1 but Gilbert or Woo would be #2 .. Mariners offense is bad again: -struggles the last two games show that the same issues persist, even without Brant Brown // Take Two:-Kris Bryant on the IL for the 7th time since joining the Rockies in 2022, White Sox lose franchise-record 14th straight  -Adam Silver addresses NBA expansion // Best of the Rest:-Salk: talks about what has to be done in order to fix the Mariners offense  -Bump & Stacy: discuss how they would feel about trading Harry Ford // What's Bugging Bob??

On today's, Daily Puck Drop, Jason "Puck" Puckett, former KJR host, opens up the show talking about last night's Mariners game and why Scott Servais is to blame for the loss. Three decisions by Scott led to their loss last night. Puck also touches on the comments from Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times about the trade possibility of Vlad Guerrero Jr and what it would cost the M's?  Ryan mentioned it would be Colt Emerson, Harry Ford and another prospect. Many M's fans think it's too much. Puck doesn't understand why fans are so obsessed with prospects. It's about winning now, not in four years. Puck reacts to comments yesterday from Brad Adam of ROOT Sports about the future of the network and hard it's been to deal with the uncertainty.  Very honest comments from Brad. The Lakers are targeting Dan Hurley as their next coach. Would he be able to make that move and it's another example of a college coach being frustrated with the current situation in college athletics and why he would want to jump to the professional ranks. Lastly, "Hey, What The Puck", Puck joined "The Quarterback Dad Cast" with his old friend Casey Jacox. Go check out the latest episode on Apple and Spotify.  Also, a middle school crossing guard arrested for providing edible marijuana to kids. Typical. Rundown The episode begins with a tribute to the brave men who fought on D-Day and secured freedom.Puck discusses the struggles of the Seattle Mariners and the potential trade rumors surrounding Vlad Guerrero Jr. and Luis Robert.The NBA coaching rumors, including the possibility of Dan Hurley coaching the LA Lakers, are discussed.The uncertain future of Root Sports and its impact on the broadcasting team is addressed.Puck shares a recent interview he had on the Quarterback Dad Cast and a strange news story about a crossing guard supplying drugs to middle school kids.

Hello Seattle Mariners fans! Evan James, Anders Jorstad and Zach Mason are here on Sunday June 2nd after the Mariners swept aside the feeble Los Angeles Angels to win their 6th of 7 games on the homestead. Is Ty France all the way back? Is the offensive output an Angel pitching based illusion? What do we make of Brant Brown's firing? How will strength of schedule impact the team going forward? How much does Anders want to keep Harry Ford? Get your MY BOOKIE DEPOSIT BONUS OF 50% and support the show! —> https://mybookie.website/MeetAtTheMitt   TWITTER LINKS: https://twitter.com/MeetattheMitt https://twitter.com/LookoutLanding https://twitter.com/JohnTrupin https://twitter.com/KatePreusser https://twitter.com/EvanJamesAudio https://twitter.com/AndersJorstad https://twitter.com/RealZachMason https://macdougallbats.com/ We are partnering with MY BOOKIE to give you an extra 50% on your first deposit! Follow our link to sign-up: https://mybookie.website/MeetAtTheMitt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason "Puck" Puckett, former KJR host ,  discusses various topics including the Seattle Mariners lineup, the Seahawks' OTA practices, and the popularity of basketball player Caitlin Clark. He also shares his thoughts on tipping in the service industry and the top ice cream flavors in America.Rundown00:00 Mariners Lineup Changes and Seahawks OTA Practices09:01 Julio Rodriguez's Performance and the Importance of Sticking to What Works, Divish on trading Harry Ford 34:42 America's Top Ice Cream Flavors

Jason "Puck" Puckett, former KJR host  and Ryan Divish, Seattle Times,  discuss various topics including audio issues, pizza reviews, tipping culture, retirement plans, youth baseball, and the performance of Dylan Moore. They also touch on the versatility of Moore and the potential impact on Luis Urias' playing time. The conversation is light-hearted and covers a range of subjects. The conversation covers various topics, including a story about a bar in New York, the Mariners' recent success, the improvement of pitcher Bryan Woo, the Mariners' bullpen struggles, the possibility of acquiring Pete Alonso, and the importance of making moves to win now.Rundown00:00 Take 2 of Episode 113....Good news, Ryan had time to go get pizza! 03:46 Divish wants to retire and be a daytime bartender 08:09 The Versatility of Dylan Moore and why he's so important to the team 14:56 have the M's proved something to themselves 20:40 The Mariners' Bullpen Struggles29:03 Acquiring Pete Alonso?31:00 Making Moves to Win Now35:47 Harry Ford will be on the move 

Jason "Puck" Puckett, former KJR host and Brad Adam, Root Sports open up talking about Brad's daughter's first day at work. They then talk about the Mariners' recent game and the performance of the closer. They discuss the team's ability to grind out wins and their offensive struggles. They also speculate on potential moves the Mariners could make at the trade deadline, including adding a bullpen arm or an offensive piece like Pete Alonso. The conversation ends with a mention of Cal Raleigh as a potential heir apparent at catcher. The conversation covers various topics related to the Seattle Mariners and potential trade opportunities. The hosts discuss the performance of catcher Harry Ford and his potential to play other positions. They also explore the possibility of trading first baseman Pete Alonso and potential landing spots for him. The conversation then shifts to the Mariners' need for offensive help and the importance of making a trade deadline move to signal a commitment to winning. They also discuss the struggles of certain players on the team and the idea of cutting ties with underperforming players. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the players' per diem and the benefits of traveling by train.Rundown00:00 A Good First Day and an Improbable Win01:43 Grinding and Finding Ways to Win06:37 The Importance of the Bullpen and Offensive Upgrades16:38 Cal Raleigh as the Future Catcher20:57 The Importance of Making a Trade Deadline Move23:52 Considering Cutting Ties with Underperforming Players27:30 The Enjoyment of Traveling by Train

Nate and The Rook do a mudding faux pas and talk their top 25 hitting and top 20 pitching prospects in the land. They barely survived the disgusting task. The Players discussed most extensively include: Adael Amador, Sean Sullivan, Harry Ford, Dylan Beavers, Caden Dana, Matt Shaw, Ricky Tiedemann, Noelvi Marte, Shane Baz, and Jasson Dominguez.Check out Nates write up on the top 20 pitching prospects at the Dynasty Dugout here:https://www.thedynastydugout.com/p/top-20-pitching-prospects-for-dynasty-nate-handy

Download and follow Fantasy Baseball Today in 5! You can find FBT in 5 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Audacy App and wherever else podcasts are found. James Wood is starting to hit for more power at Triple-A. Will Coby Mayo make it to the Orioles before Jackson Holliday? Harry Ford and Lazaro Montes are performing well in the Mariners' organization. Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Get Fantasy Baseball Today merch here: http://bit.ly/3y8dUqi Follow FBT on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fbtpod?_t=8WyMkPdKOJ1&_r=1 Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

James Wood is starting to hit for more power at Triple-A. Will Coby Mayo make it to the Orioles before Jackson Holliday? Harry Ford and Lazaro Montes are performing well in the Mariners' organization. Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Get Fantasy Baseball Today merch here: http://bit.ly/3y8dUqi Follow FBT on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fbtpod?_t=8WyMkPdKOJ1&_r=1 Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ben and Carlos talk about the new draft rankings at Baseball America and briefly touch on the state of the class and how the group is shaping up. Ben brings up the idea of pick trading once again and how that would impact Carlos's ability to create mock drafts. Ben also talks about how it would be interesting to see teams able to trade domestic draft picks for international draft picks if that is ever implemented—the more freedom for teams to build rosters the better.Then the two touch on a number of minor league prospects off to hot starts this season including: White Sox lefthander Noah Schultz, Rockies righthander Chase Dollander, Cubs third baseman Matt Shaw, Royals catcher Blake Mitchell and Twins outfielder Emmanuel Rodriguez. After that the two switch gears and talk about some prospects whose starts to the season could be more concerning. Those players include: Yankees shortstop Roderick Arias, Rangers shortstop Sebastian Walcott, Mariners catcher Harry Ford, Blue Jays lefthander Ricky Tiedemann, Padres righthander Dylan Lesko and Braves righthander Hurston Waldrep. In that conversation the two also wonder about the merits of prospect demotions and whether or not they could be beneficial for player development. Ben has a sleeper righthander to know in the Brewers system, righthander Bishop Letson, and the two talk about his remarkable jump in stuff within just a year of being drafted in the 11th round. That leads to a conversation about teams investing in raw, projectable prospects who take more time to develop and whether or not that sort of player is less common with a 20-round draft and smaller minor league system.Ben picks Carlos's brain on the players who could be available for the teams picking outside the top eight range, and how likely or unlikely it is for one of the “big 8” to slip further down the board. What are potential draft scenarios for the Pirates, Nationals, Tigers and Red Sox? The two talk about pitcher attrition and whether or not that makes teams more or less likely to draft pitching prospects in the first place and then get into a listener question about academies in Latin America lying about prospect ages. –Time Stamps(0:00) New draft rankings(13:00) Pick trading(18:00) International draft trading(21:00) Noah Schultz(23:00) Chase Dollander(27:00) Matt Shaw(29:30) Blake Mitchell (34:00) Emmanuel Rodriguez(40:00) Roderick Arias(45:30) Sebastian Walcott(49:00) Thoughts on promotions and demotions(52:00) Harry Ford(57:00) Ricky Tiedemann(1:03:00) Dylan Lesko(1:08:00) Hurston Waldrep (1:13:40) Bishop Letson(1:19:00) Teams investing in “raw” players(1:23:00) Pirates options at No. 9(1:33:00) Can anyone slide out of the top eight?(1:37:00) FSU outfielder James Tibbs(1:39:00) Are the Red Sox in no man's land at 12?(1:46:00) Pitcher attrition and how that impacts decisions to draft arms(1:52:00) What happens when academies lie about player ages?–Do you have a question you want us to answer? Email us: futureprojection@baseballamerica.com  Ben's Twitter: @BenBadlerCarlos's Twitter: @CarlosACollazoBaseball America WebsiteSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/future-projection-a-baseball-america-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Bob and Lefko look at what Rome Odunze showed all the NFL scouts at the Combine over the weekend, they ask if Michael Penix’s combine performance and his local ties are making the Seahawks consider picking him in the first round of the draft, they look at what Mariners catcher Harry Ford’s future looks like after being named an MLB Spring Training Standout, and they wrap up the show by finding out what we learned today! 

Hitting the Matt Brash PANIC BUTTON! Who's on 3rd base? Will Harry Ford be traded? Mitch Garver comments and MLB The Show! Recorded at MVP's in Edmonds Washington. @R&BPodcast    To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hitting the Matt Brash PANIC BUTTON! Who's on 3rd base? Will Harry Ford be traded? Mitch Garver comments and MLB The Show!Recorded at MVP's in Edmonds Washington.@R&BPodcast   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lyle and TJ send you into the by first reacting to the news of the Mariners signing Canaan Smith-Njigba, claiming Collin Snider from the Diamondbacks, and the decision of Harry Ford playing some infield in spring training (1:05). They then look at the odds of Nolan Arenado being available at the deadline, and if he could be a realistic option to solidify 3B (18:54). The two of them look around baseball with their 'MLB Wraparound' highlighting a new contract for Bobby Witt Jr., and predictable drama with the A's to Vegas movement (33:16). They close out the show with a super 'Speak Your Mind' (50:53).Check out Pogacha's Pub 85: https://pub85.com/Use our code "MARINE15" for 15% off your order at Simply SeattleLeave us a voicemail: (206) 880-0907Check out Just Baseball: Click hereEmail us your questions: marinelayerpod@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@marinelayerpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on YouTube: Click hereFind us on Tik Tok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@marinelayerpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on all Podcast Platforms: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/MarineLayerPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow TJ on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@tjmathewson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Lyle on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lyle_goldsteinOur Sponsors:* Check out Factor 75 and use my code marinelayerpod50 for a great deal: https://www.factor75.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Bump and Stacy are joined by The Team 980’s Craig Hoffman live at Super Bowl LVIII’s Radio Row to discuss Eric Bieniemy’s history in Washington DC, as well as the most exciting things he’s seen in Vegas this week, they look at the remaining names in the Seahawks offensive coordinator search, including Chip Kelly and Tanner Engstrad, they give you their thoughts on Mariners prospect Harry Ford and Ryan Grubb’s future in Headline Rewrites, and they ask if Kyle Shanahan can lead the 49ers to a win over the Chiefs. 

M's pitcher Bryce Miller will detail the adjustments he has made this offseason in preparation for this upcoming year. We have an intensely interesting, informative, and extensive conversation with Assistant General Manager Andy McKay. He will also give us a couple of great book recommendations. Senior Director of Analytics Joel Firman will tell us about Jorge Polanco and Gregory Santos. He will also give us a bullpen primer going into spring training. Catching prospect Harry Ford will detail his early journey in pro baseball. He will also tell us a great story about watching the Mariners from the stands and he'll express his feelings on wearing the Great Britain jersey on and off the field. Nova Newcomer, Director Community Relations and Mariners Care Foundation, will detail the Mariners Care Equipment Donation Grants that have been supporting student-athletes across the Pacific Northwest in their baseball and softball journeys. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A splash of J15 signings talk. How one can come to different conclusions, and a bevy of hypothetical trades bucking the consensus. The two are at it again ruminating on how to get an advantage on your dynasty opponents.31:25 - Walker Jenkins for Max Clark or Emmanuel Rodriguez even better 43:30 - Druw Jones for Victor Berricoto+ 52:30 - Carson Williams for Jett Williams 1:02:23 - Luisangel Acuna for Darell Hernaiz 1:10:11 - Kyle Teel for Dalton Rushing?? 1:13:45 - Harry Ford for Ivan Herrera & Caden Dana 1:20:35 - Brady House for Bryan Ramos

Join award-winning baseball writer and podcaster, Lindsay Crosby, for an in-depth analysis of the 2024 farm previews focusing on the Seattle Mariners organization. He discusses the team's best prospects, including Colt Emerson, Cole Young, and Harry Ford, along with their performance and potential rank in the system. Lindsay also offers insights into the players you might see in 2024, such as Tyler Locklear and Ryan Bliss. The discussion closes out with a rapid-fire look at all the young intriguing talent in the lower minors.Find all the different ways to connect with the show (Discord, Subtext, etc) HERE: https://linktr.ee/CrosbyBaseballFollow along with LockedOn MLB Prospects host Lindsay Crosby as we follow 120+ affiliated teams throughout the 2023 season! From prospect call-ups to impactful trades to the ever evolving battle for minor league living and working conditions, Lindsay is covering it all on five days a week. Available exclusively on the Locked On Podcast Network. Follow the show on twitter @LockedOnFarm and email your Mailbag Monday questions to LockedOnMLBProspects@gmail.comFollow Lindsay for up to the minute details on all things Minor League Baseball:On Twitter: https://twitter.com/CrosbyBaseballSupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Jase MedicalEmpower yourself when you purchase a Jase Case, providing you with a personal supply of 5 antibiotics that treat 50+ infections. Get yours today at jasemedical.com and use code LOCKEDON to get $20 off your order. GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America's Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That's A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join award-winning baseball writer and podcaster, Lindsay Crosby, for an in-depth analysis of the 2024 farm previews focusing on the Seattle Mariners organization. He discusses the team's best prospects, including Colt Emerson, Cole Young, and Harry Ford, along with their performance and potential rank in the system. Lindsay also offers insights into the players you might see in 2024, such as Tyler Locklear and Ryan Bliss. The discussion closes out with a rapid-fire look at all the young intriguing talent in the lower minors. Find all the different ways to connect with the show (Discord, Subtext, etc) HERE: https://linktr.ee/CrosbyBaseball Follow along with LockedOn MLB Prospects host Lindsay Crosby as we follow 120+ affiliated teams throughout the 2023 season! From prospect call-ups to impactful trades to the ever evolving battle for minor league living and working conditions, Lindsay is covering it all on five days a week. Available exclusively on the Locked On Podcast Network. Follow the show on twitter @LockedOnFarm and email your Mailbag Monday questions to LockedOnMLBProspects@gmail.com Follow Lindsay for up to the minute details on all things Minor League Baseball: On Twitter: https://twitter.com/CrosbyBaseball Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Jase Medical Empower yourself when you purchase a Jase Case, providing you with a personal supply of 5 antibiotics that treat 50+ infections. Get yours today at jasemedical.com and use code LOCKEDON to get $20 off your order.  Gametime Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase. FanDuel Score early this NFL season with FanDuel, America's Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That's A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On the latest edition of the MLB Pipeline Podcast, Jim Callis and Jonathan Mayo focus on the Arizona Fall League and its Fall Stars Game festivities from the past weekend. They discuss several standouts from the AFL's all-star game, including Top 100 Prospects Colson Montgomery (White Sox) and Kyle Manzardo (Guardians) and 2022 first-round pick Eric Brown (Brewers). Jonathan interviews Mariners catcher Harry Ford, who didn't participate in the Fall Stars Game but is one of the top prospects in the developmental circuit. After that, Jim and Jonathan credit the AFL for putting on a good show at its Home Run Derby, which was won by Twins outfielder Kala'i Rosario, before taking a question about Montgomery's ETA from the listener mailbag. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ethan Salas made it to Double-A at just 17 years old! Will Harry Ford move off catcher? What do we need to know about Brewers prospect Jeferson Quero and Red Sox prospect Kyle Teel? Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Get Fantasy Baseball Today merch here: http://bit.ly/3y8dUqi Follow FBT on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fbtpod?_t=8WyMkPdKOJ1&_r=1 Follow our FBT team on Twitter: @FBTPod, @CTowersCBS, @CBSScottWhite, @Roto_Frank Join our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasybaseballtoday Sign up for the FBT Newsletter at https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/fantasy-baseball-today/ For more fantasy baseball coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ You can listen to Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Baseball Today in 5 podcast." To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Seattle Mariners banked an incredibly important come-from-behind W against the Rangers last night, and would you believe it… our own Jordan Shusterman was asleep for it all. Jake fills Jordan in on what he missed, while Jordan shares his appreciation for the man who hit the walk-off double to win it: J.P. Crawford. Then, the guys recap the circus that was the Mets/Marlins game, celebrate the Orioles' clinching of the AL East, and discuss Buck Showalter, Angel Hernandez, and Service Gators in this week's edition of “The Good, The Bad, and the Uggla.”Merch Link: podswag.com/baseball

In this compelling episode, Lesley and Rebecca delve into strategies for handling challenging personalities. Drawing from her personal journey and expertise, Rebecca provides invaluable insights on recognizing and countering manipulative behaviors. Discover how her SLAY method can be your key to breaking free from toxic entanglements.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Explore different types of narcissism and their distinct signs.Dive into Rebecca's SLAY method for empowerment.Grasp the steps to set boundaries with manipulative individuals.Realize that self-worth is self-defined.Understand the psychology behind narcissistic behaviors.Embrace self-awareness to navigate challenging relationships.Episode References/Links:Follow Rebecca on IGRebecca Zung's WebsitePreorder Rebecca's Book: Slay the BullyWatch Rebecca on YouTubeFollow Rebecca on TiktokFollow Rebecca on LinkedInThe Four AgreementsGuest Bio:Rebecca Zung is a top 1% attorney and Narcissism Negotiation Expert, recognized by U.S. News & World Report as a “Best Lawyer in America”. She's the founder of the SLAY negotiation method, boasts over 30 million YouTube views, and is the author of the upcoming book "SLAY the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win", along with two bestsellers. A major media contributor, she's been featured on platforms like Extra, Forbes, and Dr. Drew.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship Join us at our Cambodia Retreat - Oct. 8-13, 2023FREE Ditching Busy WebinarAmy Ledin - Episode 5: "How to take fast action against limiting beliefs" ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Rebecca Zung 0:00  You don't want anybody to feel like they're a failure or feel guilty or feel worse on themselves. You know, I mean, you know, I always tell people don't feel bad about choices that you made. When you were in survival mode. Right?  Lesley Logan 1:54  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 2:37  Hey, Be It babe. All right, we have a hot topic. I think it's a hot topic. It's a topic that I've been interested in for a really long time. And you'll hear how I found out about our guests. And she didn't even know the story. So I got to tell it to her on the air. But our guest is Rebecca Zung. And she is an incredible person, you probably have heard from her because she helps you negotiate with narcissists. And she shares narcissism, covert narcissism and how we can work like lead our lives, when we find ourselves in and are in a relationship with a narcissist, whether it's work or personal in this episode, which I am so excited about, because one of the things that I think could be really hard when you're being until you see it is the people around you, they can make it very difficult. And you can be the strongest, most amazing person at work, and then at home, you feel like you're not, or vice versa. And, and so she explains this whole thing so well and why and how the narcissist can mesh themselves into your world, and how you can untangle that web. And also, I just, you know, I love the Be It Action I was I really do so. But I do. I do love this one. I think it's really incredible. And what I hope is that this is an episode that you will listen to, that you share a lot. Because the truth is, is that whether you are dealing with a narcissist right now, or someone else you know and they are around us, and we're going to have to deal with them in different situations all the time. And so hopefully this episode arms you with the tools you need to deal with a narcissist in your life or prevent one from coming into your life in the future. As always, we do love when you share the show, so please make sure you do that. And there's some great links in the show notes for her book that you can preorder. At the time this comes out if you're listening to it after it came out you could order but also she's giving away some amazing content to support you and your journey with getting out of people's narcissistic relationships you might be in so here she is, Rebecca Zung.  Lesley Logan 4:14  All right, Be It babe. I am beyond excited about this exact moment. I don't actually think our guests even knows how this happened. So I've had her name on the list to talk to her on this podcast. And today it started. She's on the wish list since it started because I heard her on two other podcasts. And I was like this woman has to come on, because what she talks about is what we all deal with all the time, and how on earth might be it till we see it with narcissists in our lives. So I had her on my wish list. And then I remember, hey, we're gonna do a quick little, little story. So I've talked to you on the pod about how I had this one random girl state where I met these girls, and we all said, Let's go to Vegas. I live in Vegas. So they came here and we're sitting around having drinks, and I said, yeah, I really. I have a wish list of a couple people that I've been wanting to get on pod. And Donna girls is like, well, who isn't? I said, Well, I'd love to get Rebecca Zung on the pod. And she said, Oh, she's a friend of mine. Let me see if I can make that happen. And I now you're here. So, you guys, our guest today is Rebecca Zung.Rebecca Zung 5:01  Ah, it wasn't Harry Ford. Oh, yeah, that's right, Carrie. Shout out to Carrie.Lesley Logan 5:08  Yeah, we love Carrie. Her episode is probably one of the most top downloaded one. So everyone loves Carrie, but that's how you got here. And I'm a fangirl a little bit, but I'm gonna first let you tell everyone who you are and what you're amazing at.Rebecca Zung 5:21  Oh, well, my name is Rebecca Zung and I am an attorney by trade. But what I really do now is I teach people how to negotiate with narcissists. It's such a weird thing to say like when I'm at cocktail party, things like that. I always joke that people used to really run away when I told them that I was a divorce attorney now they're all like, Oh my God, I need you.Lesley Logan 5:45  Right, because I feel like there's like a narcissistic epidemic or (inaudible). I don't know what you call it, but they're...Rebecca Zung 5:51  Yeah (inaudible) for sure.Lesley Logan 5:54  So can we just take a brief I'm like, how did you go from being a divorce attorney to being someone who helps people with narcissist?Rebecca Zung 6:02  Well, it really happened during COVID. I was I had dealt with a narcissistic business partner. Prior to COVID. I had really kind of merged my practice a little bit before that to do entrepreneurial things. And I ended up with a covert narcissistic business partner who ended up she was a woman and somebody who everybody thought was amazing and wonderful and humble and kind. And the thing that everybody thinks when you're dealing with a covert narcissist, right, and I prior to that, I thought narcissists were all male, blowhards, misogynistic, rule-the-room kind of, that's what I thought a narcissist was. And when I was dealing with this particular person, it was really one of the most horrible, heinous experiences of my life. It brought back feelings of when I had been bullied as a kid, and it caused a lot of trauma. I always say drama, trauma and chaos, yeah, in my life, and this, somebody had said to me, Oh, she's a covert narcissist. And I was like, okay, what is that? So I ended up reading a whole bunch of books on narcissism, not because I was going to end up teaching this stuff, but because I wanted to know about it for myself. I had already separately been speaking a lot about negotiation. And I was even the keynote speaker for the American Bar Association. On the topic of negotiation, I'd written a book on the topic of negotiation. So it was a natural fit for me to actually start applying what I was learning about narcissists to negotiation at that time, and then COVID hit, then COVID hit. And so when COVID hit, I couldn't practice law, I was really flying between LA and Florida, which is where my practice was. And I just started talking about how to negotiate with a narcissist on YouTube. And here we are, like two and a half years later, and I have close to 40 million views on YouTube. And I have a podcast and a book coming out later this year on how to negotiate with a narcissist and I didn't practice law anymore. So, there you go.Lesley Logan 8:27  I, what I love about your story is like, you weren't set out to like, No, I'm going to teach people this, it was kind of like you're trying to figure out how to like, how to actually survive your own situation. So you could not I mean, gosh, drama, trauma and chaos, but also just like the rent space that that person takes up in your head on a daily basis when you feel like you're being bullied or like, misunderstood at work. And so but I also think it's really cool to hear that because I think a lot of people in their being until they see it they don't give credit to the past and like who they all the all the skill sets they already have. So you were actually just taking one thing you already do really well. And they're like, well, let me do this and also during COVID When everyone's locked inside with their narcissist, family member or something.Rebecca Zung 9:11  Yeah. Lesley Logan 9:12  So okay, can we just take a step back for the people, we did a little explaining about covert narcissist, but can we just do a little like 101, how does someone know they're dealing with a narcissist in their life?Rebecca Zung 9:23  Well, it's so interesting because they start off being the most charming, charismatic, personable person you've ever met. And that's the thing that's so interesting about it because they know how to make you also feel like you are the most incredible person and that together, you have to be together, whether it's business, or personal. Like where have you guys been as far as being together all of your lives. You know, the universe has put you together you are soulmates, you that you were destined to be together. And so therefore, you shouldn't wait, you should get immediately to the next step. And so they look to get to that next step and lock you in as fast as possible. You know, whether it's going to Vegas to get married, or locking you into being a business partner right away, which was my situation. And, you know, and I always remind people, they don't attach themselves to you, because you have so little value, they attach themselves to you, because you have so much value, even though they're devaluing you right away, they look for someone who's going to be a great source of supply for them, whether it's making them look good, or giving them, you know, their ego looks good, because you're there with you, or they are looking, you're going to be a great business partner for them, because you're going to feed them a lot of things, or you're going to be a great romantic partner, because you're either going to give them lots of adulation, or you look good on their arm, or you have lots of money or whatever it's going to be, right? So they they look for someone who's going to feed something within them, because there's so empty inside.Lesley Logan 11:41  I love that you said that. I hope everyone's like heard that. They aren't targeting you or picking you because you have little value, it's because you have so much, it's because they see something that they can use in you and I think that's such an important thing to say, because I do hear especially women, they're like, how did I get in this situation again? How did this happen? It's like, well, it's not necessarily that every single one has, like they're not carrying a narcissistic flag for you to see, like, there's here's your red flag for that. But, and also, it's very flattering, but I think we can get so hard on ourselves, when we find ourselves in this situation, I don't know if like, if you or people you've worked with, like, get, like find themselves like blaming themselves for putting themselves in a situation with a narcissist.Rebecca Zung 12:22  Well, of course they do. But you know, you can't blame yourself, because they're really, really good. I mean, one of the other things they have this amazing skill at is what we call mirror neurons. I mean, they are very, very good at reading people. And so they know how to read you and become exactly what it is that you want, exactly what it is that you need. And they also are good at spotting your kind of core wounds and, and being sort of the salve for those core wounds at that time, you know, I can tell that, you know, you had this or whatever, and I will love you forever, you know, I will be the one I can be your savior, I can love you. You know, and then if, especially if you also have this need to save this person, you know, and they had something in their childhood or whatever, you know, they'll be that thing so that you can go I can save you, I will love you, I will pour all of this into you. And they're very very good at that too. And so it becomes this you know very symbiotic type of relationship almost from the beginning.Lesley Logan 13:57  Yeah, yeah, I can picture that. So I guess like obviously you have you know, so many videos and all of your books but one of the things I was thinking about one that I want to do on the show is like trying to be the person you want to be like acting as if like taking making your new company or trying to leave a job or whatever it is. Unfortunately, we might encounter a narcissist or end up we maybe were already in a relationship with one how do you like what are your step suggestions or tips for people who are trying to do like be themselves go off try something new and then yet they have a narcissist around them? Like is there something that they can do say, are there steps that they can do? Rebecca Zung 14:37  You mean what can they do to you know, get started?Lesley Logan 14:41  Yeah, I guess started or like or how I guess maybe the next question and maybe that's where my brain is going is like what happens when they're like taking on their goals and a narcissist is trying to hold them back.Rebecca Zung 14:53  Yeah, well, I mean, that's gonna happen. I mean, we're kind of like jumping from one end of the relationship to the other. Yeah, you know, and I kind of feel like maybe I should fill in the gap a little bit between that because they, you go from that love bomb stage, which is what I was sort of talking about at the beginning there, even though there's nothing to do with love, it's really all a manipulation to the devalue stage to the discard stage. And it's not linear, by the way, I mean, they kind of jump from one to back to the other, whenever they need to. Rebecca Zung 15:35  And so, then when you get into that discard phase, whether you're discarding or they are, you've been so conditioned, at that point. And your brain is, you know, so it's so difficult for you, at that point to it. It's really hard. You know, sometimes people refer to it as like cognitive dissonance, because your brain is I mean, even if you are, it doesn't matter how smart you are, how powerful you are in your regular life. I mean, I've talked to women who are hospital administrators, or CEOs or whatever, who are dealing with a narcissistic partner, it doesn't matter. It's, you know, like you said, it's a cult mentality. So you can't just go, I'm done over here, I'm gone, you know, so I say, step one, don't run step two, make a U-turn, step three, break free, because you really kind of, I call it like, riding a ship, you know, you, you have to vary in small steps, turn it around, facing, then you're facing the other person, and then you can break free. You know, you can't just do it all at once. Because I feel like if you just tell somebody, you got to do it all at once, then they feel like a failure again. (Lesley: Yeah, yeah.) And you don't want anybody to feel like they're a failure or feel guilty or feel worse on themselves. You know, I mean, you know, I always tell people don't feel bad about choices that you made. When you were in survival mode. Right? (Lesley: Yeah.) You know, you're in, you got you're here you are, where you are, they were really good at what they did, as far as love bombing you into this situation, and, and then you made choices when you were in survival mode at the time, right? So just step one, don't run, start creating boundaries. And the first set of boundaries is usually probably just, you can't speak to me that way. Right, and just start recognizing what is going on. In the situation, whether it's a business relationship, or a personal relationship, and start looking at it almost as a third party as almost like observationally, when you can start looking at it from an observational point of view, almost as if you're like seeing it, and going, I can see that you are upset, I can see that you're angry. We can resume this when you're less upset, you know, observing their behavior, rather than taking it personally. (Lesley: Yeah.) Because recognizing that hurt people hurt people. You can't ever take anything anybody ever does personally. I mean, one of my favorite books, by the way, is the Four Agreements, (Lesley: Oh my gosh, best book.) Yeah, four agreements that you make with yourself. And one of them is never to take anything personally because the way people treat others is always a reflection of the way they feel about themselves.Lesley Logan 19:12  Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 100%. Rebecca Zung 19:15  Just start observing their behavior, and you can even observe it to them. And you know, one of the things I always say that you can say to them is I agree with you. I agree with you. That that's what you think. I agree with you that you believe that. You don't have to agree with that. (Lesley: Yeah. Yeah.) I agree that that is your opinion.Lesley Logan 19:43  I love these Rebecca, because I think one, I think people think I have to get out of here. That isn't actually you have to go back and get your things. Whatever, that's your office (inaudible), like the it's not always possible to run. Second, I think what you're suggesting here is like just putting those boundaries up what a great muscle to practice and do and feel empowered when and then strengthen you to do that U-turn that you mentioned and then, and then break free. So I think that that's actually probably not what people do for the first step. But as you in that way you explain it, it makes the most sense for people to feel strong and confident when they do leave.Rebecca Zung 20:22  Yeah, because, you know, the first step is just some boundaries in place, right? So and, you know, if you are in a romantic situation, change your passwords, get your stuff together, make a plan, get a stash of cash, you know, whatever it is that you need to do, but that's your first step. Right? And even just boundaries as far as how they're speaking to you. That's even that for some people is a big step. But that's a great step. A great step. And by the way, I have phrases for people if they want phrases for disarming narcissist that are free. (Lesley: Oh, I love that.) Yeah, they can go to disarmthenarc.com and get them for free.Lesley Logan 21:11  Perfect. Thank you so much. We'll put that in the show notes, everyone, because that sounds awesome.Rebecca Zung 21:16  Yeah, yeah. And like the one I just gave you, I agree with you is on there. Yeah.Lesley Logan 21:22  So then step two, the U-turn. Like, what does that look like?Rebecca Zung 21:27  So that's like the next step. And you know, and in my slay methodology, which is strategy, leverage, anticipate and focus on you. That's sort of like all part of this. But you know, you can't even start to create a strategy until you're like, okay, how can I start putting boundaries in place, right? And so, layering into this as I can start to make a U-turn, and I can start to build a strategy here, which is create a vision, and a goal, and I know where I'm going, and I can create action steps, and I can, you know, start working toward those action steps and I can have, I can figure out what my leverage is going to be. And, you know, all of that is part of making that U-turn, right? Anticipating where the narcissist is going to go and be being two steps ahead of them. What kind of narcissism I'm actually dealing with? Is it a covert, is it grandiose, is it malignant? Because they attack a little bit differently. And you can actually create a plan around each one, you know, and, and then the why is focusing on you, and your mindset, and you being on the offensive instead of the defensive all the time is so important because that's when you actually break free. And the bottom line is that they're the true breaking free, the true breaking free, is understanding that there will always be narcissists in this world, and they will always be toxic. And if you can be like a tree that sort of, you know, flexible, and but I stand here, and I don't move, you're there, and you just kind of go around me. And I don't I see you and I smile, and you don't have any effect on me. That's the true breaking free. Right? I mean, yeah, that's, that's really where you want to go. Yeah, they're always going to be around, they're always going to be here. Lesley Logan 23:47  They will and I, you are right. And I you know, and I keep coming back to this, like when we talk to different guests about different topics, the what it all comes down to is like, we have to know ourselves so well, that we can own the space that we're taking up and not let whether it's a narcissist or anyone push you around, like, Okay, well, I can let the breeze your words can breeze right by my leaves. But I'm these are my roots. And I'm standing here. And I think that like, that's so hard for so many people to trust that they get to take up their own space. You know?Rebecca Zung 24:22  I mean, the truth of the matter is that, I mean, when I went back to I have a business coach that was also sort of my guru in judo. She's been with me for years and years. And she, when I went back to her after I had dealt with this narcissist, and she said to me, you know, Rebecca, it's not what narcissists say, it's how it lands for you. And I said, what, what does that mean? And she said, Well, if somebody calls you a banana you'd be like, I'm not a banana. So okay, whatever. But if they say something to you, and it hurts you, it's because you feel something there. It's something you still need to heal. Right? So it's not what they're saying. It's, it's you. (Lesley: Yeah.) And, and really, it's a signal to you, it's a message to you of what you still need to heal inside. So that that's, that's the beautiful thing in some ways, it's a gift, I mean, I got such a gift from this person, because, you know, the, the true message in all of this is know who you are. Know who you are first. And then and then when they come along, and you be like, okay, whatever. You mean nothing to me.Lesley Logan 26:00  Yeah, that is, I you know, when people I know people get all upset, like, everything happens for you. But like, if it if this situation helped you get to know yourself so much that like no other person can, can just like disrupt you from where you are. Like, isn't, I would say, now the impact you're having because of that to help other people. It's kind of amazing. It's kind of like a thing that happened for you and for others.Rebecca Zung 26:27  Yeah, I mean, I can't say that I'm perfect with that. No, I always joke that I can never leave my thoughts unsupervised. Y'all. (Lesley: Yeah, I understand that.) Like, you know, reminded, I have to, you know, I in fact, did the opening of my podcast. You know, because I have a podcast called Negotiate Your Best Life. I always say the very first negotiation you have to do is with yourself for your own self-worth in the morning. You know, I mean, you don't have to always be vigilant, I think. Lesley Logan 27:08  Yeah, thank you for saying that. Because I think it might, for my perfectionist, you might be like, did it, check the box, I remember, I got really mad. I was I was having a phone call with someone and in my family, and I got really mad, and I was so mad at myself for getting really mad. And I literally texted my therapist. I'm like, I need an emergency call. She said, I said, here's what happened. Here's the plan. And she's like, it's actually okay, to get mad at that person. What's not okay is that you got mad at yourself for getting mad at that person. And she's like, so there is the highlighter for where we have to do some more work. And so it's just, I think, what is really amazing about dealing with people that frustrate us, or narcissist or anything is like, they are helping us see the places we have more work to do, where we can go deeper with ourselves, having get to know ourselves more, and then be a better person to those people who deserve to have those gifts shared with them.Rebecca Zung 28:04  No doubt, no doubt. I mean, I actually in my new book, it's called Slay the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win, I actually thanked the narcissist. (Inaudible) And the people who bullied me as a kid, you know? Yeah. I mean, you gotta be grateful you have to have gratitude. Because, I mean, I am certainly not perfect, I still have a long way to go. I mean, you know, I have the perfectionist and control tendencies, which, honestly, that to me, for me, not speaking for you speaking for me, is a signal of, you know, still dealing with worthiness issues, having to hustle for your worthiness, and all that sort of thing, which I still struggle with, too, and you know, not, you know, wanting, just wanting to, you know, show up as myself and be authentic about that. And, you know, it's it's still a thing that I want to really be the best I can.Lesley Logan 29:19  Yeah, it's been funny for like, the perfectionist or trying to, that are trying not to be perfectionist or trying to be the best at not being perfectionist.Rebecca Zung 29:26  Yeah, it's so true. It's such a dichotomy, isn't it?Lesley Logan 29:32  Yeah, it really it really is. I in the beginning of the show, we talked about how like, perfect is boring, like take messy action, right? And so the reason I say this, because it's like a reminder to myself every day, like perfect is actually really boring. Like nobody really wants to, like, come into a perfect space. I don't know where to sit down. They don't know if they can touch anything (inaudible) they can't mess it up. So, but I like you, it's like, we're not there yet. That's why I keep saying it. It's my own mantra.Rebecca Zung 30:00  It's true. It's so true. But you know, just trying to show up as authentically as I can. That's, you know, really the most important thing.Lesley Logan 30:10  Yeah. So, um, you know, you mentioned your book, and I definitely want to chat about it in a little bit. But you mentioned you have to thank, like thank the bully andRebecca Zung 30:19  Not just them, other people, too. Lesley Logan 30:22  Other people. What? What was that like when you put the pen to paper? Because I'm sure before you did that, like you've done some work to like, let that go. But like, what did it feel like to put that out in the it's gonna be out in the world for them to see, too?Rebecca Zung 30:39  Well, it is out there already in pre-order. Yeah. Yeah.Lesley Logan 30:44  So how did it feel to you? Did it feel freeing? Did it feel like empowering where you're like, Yep, I, I'm so glad that I'm done with that. What did it feel like?Rebecca Zung 30:53  I it is, I am so excited about this book, because I just really want it to help as many people as possible. I just I know, because of the unbelievable growth of my YouTube channel. And the, the, literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of texts and emails and emails and DMs and messages that I get on a weekly basis of people, people whose lives I've touched. I mean, to be honest with you, like when I first started this whole journey, I had said to my husband, I'm like, I don't know if I want to be the narcissism queen. Like this is like so not what I think I want to do, you know, I'm gonna teach negotiation, that's what I'm gonna do. And then when I started getting all of these messages of people who were like, I was going to commit suicide, and you saved me. You saved me from losing my children, you saved me from being bullied at work, or, you know, things really unbelievable, powerful messages. I was really starting to feel like so humbled at the role that I've been playing just through my messages through my videos, through my courses through my all the things that I've been doing. And I just thought, okay, maybe I was meant to do this. And so I'm so excited about this book. (Lesley: Yeah) I feel like the stars have aligned in so many ways, Chris Voss actually wrote the foreword for me. And, yeah, so I'm just so excited.Lesley Logan 32:47  I mean, from two and a half years ago to just like, going on, going on YouTube to like, share this one thing, well, while you couldn't do anything else, it's kind of it's actually really amazing. And thank you for sharing like that process of like, do I want to be this person? I? I think not a lot of people know that. Most people do question like, is this the right thing? Is this where I want to go? And, and those messages, it's so empowering. It's almost like, all the stars align so you could be this person for all those people who need it right now.Rebecca Zung 33:18  Yeah, yeah. And we get so many more. I hired a COO at the beginning of this year, and he sends me the messages every day, you know, you've got to read this one. You've got to read that one. And I'm like, I know. I know. And he's like, because at the beginning when he first started with me, he's like, I've never seen anything like this before. I've never seen anything like this. The impact you have is unbelievable. And I could just die now. And so that's what keeps me going. Yeah, that's what really is what what they inspire me, they inspire me.Lesley Logan 33:58  I understand that. Rebecca I'm so grateful to have you and we'll take a brief break. And we're gonna find out how people can preorder your book, find you follow you listen to your podcast and all of that. Lesley Logan 34:09  All right, well, I for one, I'm so grateful that you went from teach people negotiation, negotiate with narcissists because I have learned so much watching your journey over these last couple of years. I feel I feel this like, you know, fly on the wall before but now it's just really fun to see your face and have this conversation before I let you go. Where can people find you follow you get your book, all those things.Rebecca Zung 34:31  So the best place is my YouTube channel which is youtube.com/RebeccaZungEsq. And my Instagram is @RebeccaZung and I've TikTok and LinkedIn and all that good stuff, too. My website is there and my book is in pre-order and you can definitely get that at slaythebully.com and if you pre-order it from there, and do all the things that it says to do on that website, you get, like, almost $400 in bonuses, which is really pretty cool. So definitely check it out.Lesley Logan 35:08  That's amazing. We'll put all those in the show notes. Because you all have to do this. I'm so excited for every one of them to have access to that. Okay, you've given us so much great information. And I really do enjoy the step the tips you've given us, but Be It Action is where you go bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Rebecca Zung 35:28  Well, I mean, I would definitely say the things that I had mentioned, which is, you know, the step one, don't run, step two, make a U-turn, step three, break free. If you don't, one thing that I want to leave people with is that you and you alone, define your value. And I just want to tell like a 32nd story, if you don't mind. (Lesley: I don't.) I had been a lawyer for about eight years. And then I went in as a financial adviser or wealth advisor with Morgan Stanley for about two years. And then I went back to start my law practice. I had a friend who was leaving town and she left me her law practice. She basically like said, here you go, you can have it. And I was like, okay, this is the way I can start my law practice. And, but I was practicing in Naples, Florida, which is kind of a smaller community, but a very affluent sort of community that where all professionals know each other. And I had that business coach that I was mentioning to you. And I said, everybody is gonna think I am such a flake. I said, you know, I was a lawyer, and then I was a financial advisor. And now I'm back to being a lawyer. And I said, everybody's gonna think I'm such a flake. And she said, Rebecca, people will think what you tell them to think. She said, you can tell them to think that you are a flake. Or you can tell them to think that you are the only attorney that has a financial background. Which story so you're actually more qualified than any other family law attorney in town. Which story would you like to tell? And I was like, Oh, well, maybe I'll tell that story. And so within two years, I had actually the top family law practice in Florida, and I was representing billionaires and celebrities and all kinds of people who very clearly we're not gonna be hiring a flake. But I had to show up that way. And if I had showed up as apologetic, I'm a flake. You know, that's how people would have seen me. And so I really, I love to tell people this because people will think what you tell them to think you and you alone, define your value. And maybe it's not an actionable step, but it is such a very, very important lesson that you show up. How you show up is everything, is everything. So it is it's a negotiation step. It's a everything step. And so you and you alone define your value and people will think what you tell them to think.Lesley Logan 38:24  I think it's pretty bold one I would look at that as the bold category.Rebecca Zung 38:28  Yeah, that's what I want to leave people with.Lesley Logan 38:32  Rebecca, thank you so very much for being here. I'm so excited for your book to come out. I will be getting it because after recently going through bullying experience my own I'm like, okay, where's all the bully information? Where are the bully foundations? I can donate to no one should go through this so grateful for you. Thank you for being here. Everyone. How are you going to use these tips in your life tag Rebecca Zung. Tag the Be It pod share this with a friend who you know has a narcissist in their life. You can just like slide it into their text messages so that they can just listen to it and help them out with whatever situation they're in. Thank you all and until next time, be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 39:05  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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