Phone Calls With Clever People

We're kicking off season 05 with a bang with the incredible Kim Kaupe joining me to talk about showing up more intentionally online. Kim told me that people can NO you before they KNOW you because of how we show up online. I give her a call to talk about what we need to know about positioning ourselves in this globally connected society we live in. In January 2020 at age 34 Kim kicked off a tour with Oprah while juggling clients like Paul McCartney, The NY Mets, Ace Comic Con & Shawn Mendes. In those 9 years she learned how to go from zero clients to Oprah, no one knowing who she was to the Forbes 30 Under 30 list and not knowing what an LLC was to securing offers from 4 out of 5 sharks on Shark Tank. Kim describers herself as an accidental entrepreneur and now works with executives & future leaders to harness their voice & image to expand their network. She dusts off the ordinary to reveal the extraordinary in her clients whose perceived value in the workplace does not match the actual value they bring to the table. Connect With Kim Follow Kim on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimkaupe/  Learn more about Kim at https://kimkaupe.com/  Go to http://turnoncreatormode.com/ for help with your LinkedIn or visit https://helpmylinkedin.com/  Connect With Shane Connect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.com Follow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhatton  Follow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhatton  Reach out and email me at contact@shanemhatton.com     

We're doing something a little different for the final episode of 2021 As I look back and celebrate one year of the Phone Calls With Clever People Podcast I'm joined by my good friend Rohan Dredge from my first ever episode. Rohan joins me again to turn the tables and interview me for the show. In this episode we take time to reflect on where this all started, what's changed and what we're noticing in the world, what I've learned from over a year of interviews with clever people and what's next for me.  If you don't know me my name is Shane Michael Hatton and I'm the host of Phone Calls With Clever People. I'm a Queenslander by birth, Melbournian by choice, curious by nature and a creative at heart. I'm a leadership speaker, author, trainer and coach helping to develop Remarkable People Leaders. The kind of leaders that you talk about and remember. I love talking all things leadership, culture and communication. I'm a Gallup certified strengths coach, member of the Forbes Global Coaches Council, founder of the People Leaders Network and the author of ‘Lead The Room – Communicate a Message That Counts in Moments That Matter'. I also serve as director for the Asia Pacific Region Board of the International Association of Business Communicators (IABC). Let's Connect Connect with me on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ Learn more about what I do and sign up for my newsletter at https://www.shanemhatton.com Follow me on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/shanemhatton  Follow me on Twitter at https://www.twitter.com/shanemhatton  Reach out and email me at contact@shanemhatton.com     

We're Talking About Innovation.  My guest is Frans Johansson bestselling author of The Medici Effect. This book is an innovation classic released by the Harvard Business School Press that explores why the most powerful innovation happens at the “Intersection,” where ideas and concepts from diverse industries, cultures, and disciplines collide. Available in 21 languages, The Medici Effect has become the definitive book on diversity driving innovation, influencing numerous fields and disciplines such as architecture, design, economic development, education, entrepreneurship, and investing. Frans told me that diversity is a key driver of innovation success. So today I give him a call to talk all about it Frans Johansson is the founder and CEO of The Medici Group. His ideas around leadership, innovation, and diversity have inspired audiences worldwide, while his practical insights have empowered thousands to take action. The Medici Group is a solutions firm that helps companies accelerate their innovation and growth by leveraging diversity. By breaking down silos and leveraging diverse talent, we enable organisations to move faster, unleash growth, and transform their culture. Over the past 14 years The Medici Group has worked with over 4,000 global teams from 40% of the fortune 100 companies.  Connect With Frans Follow Frans on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/fransjohansson/  Learn more Frans and The Medici Group at https://www.themedicigroup.com/ and https://www.diversitydrivesinnovation.com/  Get your copy of The Medici Effect ay https://www.amazon.com.au/Medici-Effect-Preface-Discussion-Guide/dp/1633692949/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+medici+effect&qid=1638448548&sr=8-1  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're Talking About Money  It's something that touches almost every part of our life and yet something we don't talk a lot about openly.  My guest is Tammy Barton, managing director of Australian business MyBudget and she told me that when we transform our money it can transform our life. And yet while there's a lot of information available to us around mental or physical health, there's not a lot enough conversations about financial health.  Today I give her a call to talk about how we can transform our relationship with money.  Tammy Barton is one of Australia's most influential business women and female entrepreneurs. She's the founding director of MyBudget, a service that she started as a home-based business in South Australia more than 22 years ago (1999), and which has since grown into one of Australia's most trusted and recognised financial services brands. MyBudget relieves money worries and helps people achieve their financial goals via personal budgeting and money coaching. Today, the business employs more than 270 staff and has helped more than 110,000 clients. Tammy is a respected authority on personal budgeting and money management, who regularly features in the media as a personal finance expert and influential entrepreneur. She has won the Telstra Business Woman of the Year (South Australia) twice, the Australian Government Business Innovation Award among multiple other recognitions, including Ernst & Young's Young Entrepreneur of the Year (Central Region.) Tammy and the team at MyBudget are on a mission to promote financial responsibility and help Australians to live free from money worries.   Download the Free Budget Template and learn more about MyBudget Get the FREE Budget Template at https://www.mybudget.com.au/personal-budget-template  Visit the MyBudget Blog at https://www.mybudget.com.au/blog    Connect with Tammy and MyBudget on social media Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mybudgetau/  Instagram (Tammy): https://www.instagram.com/tammy_mybudget/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/mybudgetcomau  Twitter (Tammy): https://twitter.com/Budgeting_Guru    Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're Talking About Stress  Trigger Warning: this episode briefly discusses issues around mental health, depression and suicide. My guest is speaker, coach and author Luke Mathers and he told me that stress can be a good thing, even a superpower if we don't let it stick to us.  Today I give him a call to explore how we can lead ourselves better in the area of stress.  Luke is the author of Stress Teflon, and 28 years in business have taught him that stress isn't going away any time soon. If you want to have better health, relationships and success, you need to get good at stress. As one of the original directors of Specsavers in Australia, Luke was part of the biggest retail roll-out in Australia's history. 100 stores in 100 days. His practice was the biggest in the country and set global records that were previously unheard of. Luke retired for the first time at age 31. After transforming his UK Specsavers practice (increasing turnover 350% in just three years) Luke returned to Australia to relax and put his feet up. It wasn't long before he realised he missed something....STRESS! Helping people become Stress Teflon and to RESET Stress is his mission. Through his keynote speeches, workshops and coaching he helps people turn threats into challenges. As the book says “it's good being you when stress doesn't stick.” Connect With Luke Follow Luke on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-mathers-67853b9a/  Learn more Lukes work and connect at https://lukemathers.com.au/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're talking about ideas   More importantly how we mobilise people behind them.    My guests are the hosts from The Common Creative Podcast - Chris Meredith and Paul Fairweather and they told me that when it comes to collaborating around ideas what is required to generate ideas looks different to what is required to mobilise people behind them.   Today I give them a call to talk all about how we can turn creative ideas into collective action   Paul and Chris are both leaders in creative thinking who co-host The Common Creative, a podcast on a mission to open up the discussion about creativity in business, from the perspective of both creatives and business people alike. Paul has a background as an award-winning architect and is also an artist, speaker, author and mentor. Chris is an award-winning photographer who is also a speaker, mentor, coach and facilitator. Together they pack a creative punch and love sharing their insights on innovation, problem-solving and design thinking.   Connect with Paul Connect with Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulfairweather/  Learn more about Paul's work at: https://www.paulfairweather.com/  Connect with Chris Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismeredith/  Learn more about Chris' work at: https://chrismeredith.com.au/  Learn more about The Common Creative Podcast at https://thecommoncreative.co/  or https://omny.fm/shows/the-common-creative and follow on instagram at https://instagram.com/thecommoncreativepodcast?utm_medium=copy_link or linkedin at https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-common-creative/  Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.  

We're talking about self-leadership.   As restrictions around the world ease and we venture forward into this new world of work, it can be tempting to look to others to lead us out of lockdown. My guest on the podcast this week is Australian author and global speaker Ciara Lancaster and she told me that we have some personal responsibility when it comes to leading ourselves out of lockdown.   Today I'm giving her a call to explore how to do just that.   Ciara Lancaster is Australia's female keynote speaker and bestselling author dedicated to helping you transform your team from change fatigued to change fearless.   Ciara's thought-provoking, keynote speaking content explores the connections between resilience building, change management and self-leadership success strategies.   She says that human skills are THE competitive advantage in the decade of disruption, the post-pandemic world and the future of work.   As a former Change Manager at Deloitte Australia, she combines stories, science and simple strategies from the stage to inspire a future-ready mindset reset.   Most importantly, in a world dominated by celebrity, Ciara brings authenticity, vulnerability and relatedness that the audience comments on time and time again.   She's the author of Reimagine Change: Escape change fatigue, build resilience and awaken your creative brilliance.   Connect with Ciara Connect with Ciara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ciaralancaster/  Learn more about inviting Ciara to speak and her book at: https://www.reimaginechange.com/  Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.  

We're talking about focus.   My guest is speaker and author is "Do One Thing Deep" Gayle Smerdon PhD, and as the title suggests she is advocate for businesses and individuals choosing one thing and doing it deep.   Today I'm giving her a call to find out why!   Gayle Smerdon, PhD is a writer, researcher and speaker on learning, leading and organisational culture.   Gayle's message is simple and practical. Stop wasting time, money and the goodwill of your employees by - trying to do too much and overwhelming your people - doing nothing and frustrating them or - doing things that don't make a difference and disengaging them.   By focusing attention on ONE THING that matters she believes that leaders can harness and direct the collective energy in our workplaces on creating something meaningful - which is good for business and their people.   Gayle currently runs a practice in Melbourne where she coaches curious and committed learners, and helps to build amazing teams and workplaces.   Connect with Gayle Website: www.gaylesmerdon.com/ Blog: www.gaylesmerdon.com/blog-1 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/gayle-smerdon Twitter: www.twitter.com/do_OT_deep Instagram: www.instagram.com/doonethingdeep/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCMQVN3pbsuCeObBbwzb0WvA Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're talking about resistance.   My guest is communication international facilitator, advisor and coach Leanne Hughes and she told me that while we often trying to overcome resistance, she believes it can be a good thing. Today I give her a call to talk all about it. Leanne Hughes loves creating unpredictable workshop experiences, that predictably work. She combines her experience in Marketing, with her education in Human Resources and Psychology, to help leaders create engaging everyday experiences - that are so contagious they scale across teams, functions and regions. Leanne has facilitated leadership, onboarding and team-development workshops across Australia, Canada, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Mongolia, Papua New Guinea, and Singapore and believes in a strengths-centred approach to learning and development. She has over 14 years' of experience across a range of industries including mining, government and tourism sectors. She's the host of the First Time Facilitator podcast where she helps trainers and facilitators, book out five workshops for every workshop they deliver. Connect with Leanne Listen to the First Time Facilitator podcast: https://www.firsttimefacilitator.com Check out Leanne's services over at: https://www.leannehughes.com Join The Flipchart community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/firsttimefacilitator Subscribe to Leanne's bi-weekly(ish) newsletter: https://leannehughes.com/subscribe Connect with Leanne Hughes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leannehughes/ Follow behind the scenes on Leanne Hughes' Instagram account: https://instagram.com/leannehughes Chat to Leanne Hughes in 280 character or less on Twitter: https://twitter.com/leannehughes Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're talking hybrid communication   My guest is communication expert and my good friend Mel Kettle. She told me that while many organisations have been much more intentional around the role of technology in this new world of hybrid working, many haven't thought as intentionally about their communication.   I give Mel a call to learn more about what we can do to communicate better in the new world of work.   Mel Kettle is an expert at communication that builds trust. She understands how to create strategies that have immediate, meaningful impact. With more than two decades of experience in strategic communication and leadership and a unique educational combination of a Master of Business (Marketing) and a Master of Public Health, Mel is a valuable asset to leaders and teams that want achieve real connection and sustained engagement.   Clients rave about Mel's sharp insight, her ability to simplify the complex and her capacity to mobilise people and ideas so they can increase their visibility and influence.   She is the host of podcast This Connected Life and author of The Social Association. Her second book Connected Leadership – Starts with You is due out in late-2021.   Connect with Mel Twitter - https://twitter.com/melkettle LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/melkettle/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/melkettle/ Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're talking about what it means to be Bold! And who better to join me than bold branding & small business coach and my good friend Suz Chadwick.  Suz and I crossed paths for the first time in a 'clubhouse' conversation (for those who don't know clubhouse was an audio hangout app that rose to popularity in the early months of 2021 - that fell just as quickly) and i immediately knew I had to get her as a guest on the podcast.  She deeply believes that real impact comes from being bold. A South African born, Australian raised, Gorman wearing, 80s tunes blasting, thrill-seeking woman who loves to jump out of planes and dive off cliffs – neither of which she sees as heart pumping as running a business Besides being an in-demand speaker and podcast aficionado, she loves working with savvy women to help them become bold and powerful voices in their industry and claim their space with confidence. Connect with Suz Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/suzchadwick/  Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzannechadwick/  Learn more about Suz's work as a speaker and bold business coach at https://suzchadwick.com/    Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're having a conversation about wisdom.   As we navigate life & leadership we probably all feel like we could use a little more wisdom in our decisions. But where and who do you turn to in order to find it?   Most people have many specialists around them: Solicitor, Bank or Finance Broker, Stock Broker, Health Practitioner, Accountant, Insurance Broker. But helps you oversee the work of all these specialist professionals?   My guest is head coach of Design a Decade, Chris Freeman and he told me that when it comes to creating a life by design, we're often using outdated wisdom, trying to plan our life around retirement at 65. And he says that's the wrong number.   Today I give him a call to explore why and how we can get wisdom to create a life by design.   Chris is an expert in how to design lifestyle and financial wealth in a decade. He loves to seek out and pass on knowledge, understanding and wisdom; creating opportunity for everyday people to balance lifestyle and financial wealth in a trusted environment of Personal and Professional relationships.   Chris's journey has taught him that don't live long enough to make all the mistakes, recover from them and THEN put that experience to setting up our future. So we need to find people to tun to that have already walked the journey.   Connect with Chris and learn more about Design a Decade at - https://www.chrisjfreeman.com/ and https://designadecade.com/   Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Mental Health.    Trigger warning: for anyone that may want to avoid this topic of conversation which includes discussion around anxiety, health, medication and depression.   My guest is one of New Zealand's most experienced and successful strategic facilitators Alicia Mckay and she is known for tackling the tricky stuff in life, work and leadership.   When I invited Alicia to join me on the podcast our intention was to talk about her great new book 'You don't need an MBA'.   But as you'll quickly learn in this conversation, mental health doesn't discriminate and it can affect people who we might feel have it all together. Including Alicia and myself.   It may not have been the conversation we planned, but it was just the conversation that was needed.   Alicia has worked with New Zealand and Australia's most senior leaders in government, business and community, injecting fresh perspective and sharp insight.   She has recently released her second book 'You Don't Need an MBA - Leadership lessons that cut through the crap' because she believes that gone are the days of sitting in a lecture hall every weekend for years, only to find that everything you learned has become irrelevant. For decades, we've been training people to become managers and subject matter experts. But to have real impact in today's fast-moving, connected world, you need a different set of skills. Skills they don't teach you at business school.   Connect with Alicia Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliciamckaynz/ Learn more about her work and program at - https://www.aliciamckay.co.nz/ Get a copy of her latest book at - https://www.aliciamckay.co.nz/mba-book    Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Leadership.  In 2012 Holly Ransom was named as one of the Australian Financial Review's ‘100 Most Influential Women', making her the youngest person to receive the honour. Known as one of the world's top keynote speakers, CEO of her own company and now author of her first book The Leading Edge, Holly raises a call to arms for people to step up and turn their restlessness for change into the reality of a better world. She has spent a decade studying leadership, interviewing incredible luminaries including Barack Obama, Condoleezza Rice, Sir Richard Branson and Malcolm Gladwell. From that experience she wrote The Leading Edge which is a brilliant book sharing the culmination of this research and a number of case studies. I give her a call to hear what her thoughts are on the controversial question 'can anyone be a leader?'  Connect with Holly LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/HollyRansom Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/holly_ransom/ Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollyransom/  Sign up to Love Mondays & Easy Tiger Newsletters - https://mailchi.mp/hollyransom/newsletters    Order your signed copy of The Leading Edge -  https://hollyransom.com/store/The-Leading-Edge-signed-copy-from-Holly-Ransom-p387791715    The Leading Edge - 28 Day Challenge - Register your interest - https://mailchi.mp/hollyransom/28daychallenge    Connect With Shane Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Confidence.  My guest is my good friend and author of 'Confidence Feels Like Sh*t', Erika Cramer.  Erika told me that confidence isn't something we're born with, rather it's just like any emotion and we can choose it. I give her a call to find out what it takes practice confidence. Known to many as The Queen of Confidence, she is an international confidence coach and popular 5 star podcast host which has just reached 1 million downloads. Often called the Cardi B of the personal development world, Erika is a full-flavoured, spicy inspirational speaker, with a large dose of heart and humour. After surviving many traumatic experiences, from childhood sexual abuse, being in and out of the foster care system, car accidents and a whole lot of loss, Erika is a beaming and beautiful example of how you can heal your personal story to transform trauma into triumph Connect with Erika Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thequeenofconfidence/  Learn more about Erika's work and book at https://thequeenofconfidence.com/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Productivity.  We're having a conversation about the productivity principles we can learn from the world of manufacturing.  My guest is author Ishan Glaapathy and he says that "solving your day to day chaos isn't what improves year on year performance". I give him a call to talk about his experience in the manufacturing industry and what it can teach us about leadership and business. Ishan is an author and productivity expert with a wealth of knowledge, working across six countries for nearly two decades, including large multi-nationals. He was involved in developing a global supply chain excellence program for one of them. Renowned for his simplified techniques, Ishan works with manufacturing businesses to move from chaos to excellence through productivity improvement programs and frontline leadership development programs. When he's not working, you can find him playing backyard cricket with his sons or sipping a cup of coffee with his wife. Connect with Ishan LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ishangalapathy/  Learn more about Ishan's book at https://ishangalapathy.com/advance/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Collaboration.  More specifically this idea of Collective Genius. My guest is Simon Dowling and he told me that Collective Genius isn’t just about collaborating as a team, it’s about understanding the kinds of problems that can only be solved by having this group of people in the room. I give him a call to talk about how to build that kind of team.  Simon is an author speaker, teacher and advisor helping create teams that really hum. He believes that organisations can achieve some pretty amazing things if they let their people really operate to their full potential. He believes the most important thing a leader can do is create an environment for their people to really fly. His interest in team dynamics comes from a period in life when he was part of two very different teams: by day, a commercial lawyer in a big city law firm. By night, a cast member in improvised comedy shows across Melbourne He is an expert in helping leaders and companies to create supercharged teams and it’s a privilege to have him on the podcast. Connect with Simon LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/simondowling-aus/  Learn more about Simon at https://www.simondowling.com.au/  Get more information on Simon's Program 'Get Heard Get Results' at https://www.simondowling.com.au/ghgr?vgo_ee=uTsbS9WyUtBMU4lelR5lzh89jRvRzJvj9mhS4lgk0CQ%3D  Find Simon on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMBJX-lp_kbK12jR4gk68LQ  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're doing something a little different.  I’ve been fortunate to have some really clever conversations with people over the last few seasons and one of those clever guests is my good friend (and friend of the show) Janine Garner. Earlier this week Janine turned the tables and invited me to join her for a clever conversation that we livestreamed together. I personally enjoyed it so much that I reached out to her and asked for the recording to share it here with you. We talk all things leadership, curiosity, creativity and learning. I’m sure you’ll love it as much as I did.  Janine is a bestselling author and expert in helping leaders and companies to unlock brilliant performance. Through true collaboration, strategic networking and leadership acceleration workshops and programs, Janines knows what it takes to unlock the brilliance in your teams and leaders. Connect with Janine LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/janinegarner/  Learn more about Janine at https://janinegarner.com.au/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work or email contact@shanemhatton.com 

We're Talking About Conversations that matter.  I’m joined by my good friend Chad Littlefield who says that he is on a mission to eradicate small talk. And as you’ll quickly learn this isn’t just something he talks about, it was the foundation on which the two of us met. I typically like to keep these podcast episodes to roughly 30-40mins but there was no way I could contain all the gold within that time frame so I hope you’ll forgive me that this episode goes a little longer than usual. But I think you’ll love it just as much as I did. Chad is the co-founder and Chief Experience Officer of We and Me, Inc. (www.weand.me)—an organization whose mission is to create conversations that matter.  Leaders call Chad when they want to amplify connection, belonging, and trust in their organization. Forbes calls Chad a “global expert on asking questions that build trust and connection in teams.” He is a TEDx speaker, author of the Pocket Guide to Facilitating Human Connections, and creator of We! Connect Cards™, which are now being used to create conversations that matter on campuses and companies in over 80 countries around the world. Most recently, Chad and his partner Will Wise launched their new book, Ask Powerful Questions: Create Conversations that Matter, now a #1 Amazon Bestseller. Connect with Chad LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadlittlefield/  Learn more about Chad at https://weand.me/about-we/chad/  Get some free ideas at https://weand.me/ideas/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Decisions In particular making the hard decision to take the risky path rather than the comfortable one. And I can’t think of anyone better to join me in this conversation than Kendra Banks, Managing Director at Seek Ltd. I was fortunate to work with Kendra back in 2019 and hear some of her journey and it really is a journey of choosing the right path in the face of resistance.How did she do it? And how has it shaped the kind of leader she is now? I give her a call to find out. Kendra leads SEEK’s employment and learning businesses across the Australia and New Zealand markets, encompassing SEEK, SEEK Learning and Career Services, SEEK Business, Grad Connection and SEEK Volunteer. Prior to SEEK, Kendra held a series of senior marketing and commercial roles within the retail sector, including at Coles in Australia and Tesco in the UK. Kendra commenced her career in strategy as a consultant with McKinsey & Company. Kendra holds a Masters in European Politics at the College of Europe, where she was a Fulbright scholarship recipient. Prior to this, Kendra completed a Bachelor of Economics and Mathematics at Yale University. Connect with Kendra at LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendra-banks-0954a1/  Learn more about Seek at https://www.seek.com.au/about/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Burnout My guest is Dr Jenny Brockis and she told me that burnout is something that can often sneak up on people we identify as being the most resilient. The good news is that it is preventable. I give her a call to learn more about what it takes to help ourselves and our team thrive and avoid burnout. Dr Jenny Brockis is an expert in the science of high-performance thinking, creating thriving teams and leaders through improving brain health and wellbeing. How often do you feel stressed, under pressure, unable to think straight and groggy in the morning? As an award-winning speaker, facilitator and trained medical practitioner, Dr Jenny can help you understand why you think and act the way you do, and then implement science-backed behaviour change so you can make distractions, foggy thinking and mental roadblocks a thing of the past. Connect with Dr Jenny at  LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjennybrockis/  Website https://www.drjennybrockis.com/  Learn more about the thriving mind academy at https://www.drjennybrockis.com/thriving-mind-academy/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Re-Energising  There’s no doubt the last 12months has taken its toll on the workforce, but as we begin to remobilise and adapt to different ways of working CULTURE remains a crucial part of reenergising the workforce. And who better to talk about culture than the author of Culture Hacks and Culture fix himself Colin D Ellis.  Colin has more than 20 years experience building and leading teams in public and private sector organisations helping people to be their best selves and bring that to work each day so today I give him a call to talk about what he’s noticing in this space.  Colin is known for delivering speeches and programs around the world that inspire and motivate individuals to become role models for others and to provide organisations with the skills to build cultures of success.  Whether it's the way that projects are delivered, how teams work together or how to change the DNA of an organisation Colin has a unique blend or energy, humour and practical information to make change easy. Connect with Colin at  LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/colindellis/  Website https://www.colindellis.com/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Learning  And I’m joined by fellow learning enthusiast and the host of the brilliant podcast Steph’s Business Bookshelf, Steph Clarke. If you were going to teach a class on ‘Learning’, what would you cover? And if you want to embed a culture of learning in your organisation what should you do?  While we spend many years in formal education, many people still haven't learned how to learn. Steph joins me on the phone to discuss. Steph is a facilitator, designer and podcaster. She helps teams work better together as a facilitator, works with businesses to bring their ideas and insights to life visually as a designer, and shares the big ideas from the best non-fiction books through her podcast Steph's Business Bookshelf.    Connect with Steph at  LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/steph-clarke Instagram www.instagram.com/stephsbizbookshelf  Website www.stephclarke.com Podcast www.stephsbusinessbookshelf.com Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ or visit www.shanemhatton.com to learn more about his work.

We're Talking About Publishing  Have you ever wondered what goes on behind the scenes of some of your favourite leadership or business books you see on the shelf? Maybe you’ve even considered sharing your thoughts with the world by writing a book. Either way you will love this conversation, and if nothing else you'll get a bunch of books to add to your reading list! Joining me on the phone is Lesley Williams the Founder and Managing Director of Major Street Publishing, a Melbourne publisher responsible for bringing some of Australia’s best business, leadership, finance, investment and motivational books to market including my own book Lead The Room - Communicate a Message That Counts in Moments That matter.   Follow Lesley on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-williams-769002b/  Learn more about Major Street Publishing and view some of their latest releases at https://majorstreet.com.au/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're Talking Job Crafting What is Job Crafting I hear you ask? Jim Collison is my guest on the show and he described it as taking what you're best at those skills and talents and experiences and then pointing them to unique problems in an organisation that need to be solved.  Is this the way forward for the emerging workforce retaining top talent? I give him a call to discuss.  Jim is the Director of Talent Acquisition at Gallup’s Omaha, Nebraska office and responsible for bringing together a global community of over 10,000 coaches as the CliftonStrengths Community Manager. Jim has a voice that's recognisable in the Gallup community as the host Gallup's Called to Coach and Theme Thursday Webcasts.   Follow Jim on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimcollison/  Learn more about Gallup and CliftonStrengths at https://cliftonstrengths.com/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're Talking Wellbeing In a world where we glorify the grind and constantly put ourselves last, Susan is on a mission to make healthy a way of life and help people put themselves at the front of the line. Susan is a health expert, author, speaker and mentor. She is also a naturopath and founder of the “Me First Movement” and “Radical Self Care Club”. She is passionate about empowering and educating people so they can avoid the inevitable burnout that comes with pushing too hard and losing sight of what's really important.  Follow Susan on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-hunter-67282024/  Learn more about Susan and her work at https://www.susanhunter.com.au/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're Talking Flexible Working More and more I am having conversations with leaders right in the middle of the discussion around returning to the office. What does the new world of work look like? And what sits at the heart of flexible working?  My guest is executive and author Conor O’Malley and he told me that TRUST is at the heart of going back to the office. I give him a call to explore why.  Conor O’Malley is an executive coach for leaders who want to learn, be more effective leaders of their business, their team and in society. He has been referred to as “The CEO’s caddy” with a wealth of experience operating and coaching in the C-Suite and is the author of the newly released book “Trust – Begins and Ends With Self” Follow Conor on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/conoromalley/  Learn more about Conor and his work at https://www.conoromalley.com.au/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're Talking Brand Stories  As we kick off Season 03 of the podcast I'm joined again by one of my favourite guests Gabrielle Dolan. Last season Ral gave us an exclusive on the title of her upcoming book and I vowed to bring her back when it was launched to hear all about it.  Ral believes that Brand Stories have a magnetic quality that attracts and retains customers and helps engage employees. I give her a call to learn more.  Gabrielle Dolan is a highly sought-after international keynote speaker and educator on real communication and business storytelling. Her clients include the Obama Foundation, Telstra, EY, Accenture VISA, Australia Post, National Australia Bank, Amazon and Vodafone just to name drop a few. Gabrielle is the best selling author of six books including Real Communication: How to be you and lead true, a finalist in the Australian Business Leadership Book Awards 2019. Her other titles consist of Magnetic Stories: Connect with customers and engage employees with brand storytelling (2021), Stories for Work: The Essential Guide to Business Storytelling (2017), Storytelling for Job Interviews (2016), Ignite: Real Leadership, Real Talk, Real Results (2015) which reached the top five on Australia’s bestselling business books and Hooked: How Leaders Connect, Engage and Inspire with Storytelling (2013). Bringing humanity to the way business people communicate isn’t just a career, it’s a calling. Her dedication to the industry was recognised when Gabrielle was awarded the 2020 Communicator of the Year by the International Association of Business Communicators Asia Pacific region. Follow Ral on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/  Learn more about Lisa and her work at http://gabrielledolan.com/  Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/  

We're Talking About The Leadership GapThis week is a very special episode of Phone Calls With Clever People as I'm joined by my very first guest Rohan Dredge and the interview is flipped on me. Rohan and I have a conversation about the leadership gap. The space that exists between executive leaders and people leaders in an organisation and causes some big problems. We talk about what it is, why it matters and how we can close it by developing remarkable leaders.-----Based in Melbourne, Shane has spent over a decade working with and in organisations to develop leaders in organisations across the private and public sector. Shane is the founder of the People Leaders Network, a member of the Forbes Global Coaches Council, a Gallup Certified Strengths Coach and the author of ‘Lead The Room – Communicate a Message That Counts in Moments That Matter’.Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ Learn more about Shane and his work at https://www.shanemhatton.com Connect with Rohan on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohandredge/  

We're Talking Energy The kind of energy that enables us to take responsibility for the things that make us better.I'm joined by my very clever friend and someone I deeply admire Lisa O’Neill. From a career in fashion and television to being a mum of four, Lisa has her feet on the ground. With refreshing directness, Lisa is passionate that we should all get to live the best version of ourselves.She has written five books on how to do exactly that. ‘Look Gorgeous Be Happy’, ‘Juggling in High Heels’, ’The Lickable Third’, '100 Questions to Self Awareness and 'Everything You Want'. Lisa one of my favourite people and is sure to leave you feeling energised and ready to change the way you think about life.She recently told me that “energy is everything”. I give her a call to explore why.Follow Lisa on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaonz/ Learn more about Lisa and her work at https://www.lisaoneill.co.nz/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking Adaptability With the current state of the world it couldn’t be a more important topic of conversation.My guest is the incredible Lynne Cazaly. Lynne is an international keynote speaker, multi-award-winning author and a master facilitator. She is the author of 6 books (soon to be 7) and an expert at helping you think better, make sense of information and handle the realities of workplace overwhelm and information overload with all of her clever hacks and ingenious processes, tools and methods.Lynne recently told me that when we “change the way we do things it changes what we can do”. Today I give her a call to explore to explore how becoming more adaptable can accelerate decisions, discovery, change, and outcomes.Follow Lynne on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynnecazaly/ Learn more about Lynne and her work at https://www.lynnecazaly.com.au/ Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking LanguageToday’s guest is my good friend Rachel Callander. She says that ‘our language shapes our landscape’.Rachel’s late daughter Evie, was born with a very rare chromosomal condition and during the two and a half years of her life, Rachel learnt a lot about the use of language in the health system, and she has spent the subsequent years continuing to explore the impact and implications of how it is used both to positive and negative effect.She is a TedX presenter, speaker, trainer and award winning artist. She is also the author of two books - Super PowerBaby Project and Super Power Kids which are books that celebrate the lives and abilities of children with a range of disabilities and conditions. I give her a call to explore how we as leaders can use language to create more safe, connected and empowering landscapes for those we lead.Follow Rachel on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-callander-51bba32/ Learn more about Rachel and her work at https://rachelcallander.com/ Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking Action.More specifically turning leadership theory into action.My guest is author and corporate trainer Mark Greaney. He recently told me that while leadership theory is great (and important) what matters most is that it’s put it into practice.Earlier in the year when New Zealand went into lockdown Mark was presented with the opportunity to go to sea for six weeks with one of his clients and he had to live by those words as he traded his Gold Status for No Status.Today we explore what six weeks at sea taught him about leadership on the ground.   Follow Mark on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/nzfacilitators/ Learn more about Mark and his work at https://www.mark-greaney.com/ Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking flawsome.What’s flawsome I hear you ask? My guest on the podcast is author Georgia Murch and she says that Flawsome is not just making peace with your flaws but in knowing that without them, you would not be you.As one of Australia's leading experts in designing feedback cultures for teams and organisations, Georgia has learned that the foundation to the relationships we have with each other - is the one that we have with ourselves. And that it all starts with the feedback we give ourselves.Today I give her a call to find out how we can embrace the flaw that make us who we are and become more flawsome.Follow Georgia on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiamurch/ Get a your copy of her new book 'Flawsome - The journey to being whole is learning to be holey' at https://georgiamurch.com/buy-flawsome/Subscribe to her blog at https://georgiamurch.com/subscribe/ Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking Power.If you have power or privilege, then how do you become a champion for change and use that for good?My guest is Michael Bungay Stanier, author of 'The Advice Trap' and 'The Coaching Habit' (the best-selling coaching book of this century with over 700,000 copies sold and 1,000+ five-star reviews on Amazon). These are two of my all time favourite books so the opportunity to sit down with him is very humbling.I give Michael to explore the idea of power, privilege and becoming a force for change in the world.Follow Michael on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbungaystanier/ and visit https://www.mbs.works/ to learn more about his work and sign up to his free course 'The Year of Living Brilliantly'.Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/

We're Talking belief.My guest is leadership mentor, author and strategist Cameron Schwab. At 24 years of age Cameron was appointed the CEO of the famous Richmond football club, becoming the youngest CEO in the history of the game. He told me recently that there’s a lot that leaders can really learn from the world of football and elite sport. As the second longest serving CEO in the modern game I give him a call to explore some of those leadership lessons.Follow Cameron on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameronschwab/ and visit https://www.designceo.com.au/ to learn more about his brilliant work and download your free copy of his book 'More to the Game'.Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're talking connection.From regular in person meetings to spending most of our day communicating through a screen, there’s no doubt the world we are living in has changed. My guest is bestselling author and global thought leader on business storytelling Gabrielle Dolan. She told me recently that 'creating real connection and engagement is needed now more than ever'.Today I give her a call to explore how we can create real connection and engagement in this digital world through the power of storytelling Follow Gabrielle on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ and visit https://gabrielledolan.com/ to learn more about her upcoming storytelling workshops and free Seven Day Storytelling Starter KitConnect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/

We're Talking Perspective.My guest is the very clever Zoë Routh and she is the author of a great new book called 'People Stuff - Beyond Personality Problems'.Zoë is a leadership expert who, from the wild rivers of northern Ontario to the remote regions of Australia, has spent the last thirty years showing teams how to navigate the wilderness of people stuff. She recently told me that "perspective is power and when we can see more we can lead better".I give her a call to explore why perspective is so important for leaders and also what we can do to get more of it. Follow Zoë on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoerouth and visit https://www.zoerouth.com/peoplestuff-book to learn more about her amazing work and new book.Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking Brand.Joining me today is the founder of 'The Comms Department' and newly published author Bec Brown. Bec has been working as a professional communicator for over 20 years with some of Australia’s biggest and best-known media, entertainment, travel and lifestyle brands. She recently told me that "your professional personal brand is the most important part of your career you'll ever invest in", and I tend to agree. I give her a call to explore not just 'why we should' but also 'how we can'. Follow Bec on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/becbrowncommunications/ and visit http://www.thecommsdepartment.com.au/ to learn more about her amazing work and new book "You've Got This"Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking Creativity.My guest is the extremely talented and creative author Mykel Dixon. And he believes that “Creativity is now the strongest economic currency.”I recently read his book ‘Everyday Creative -  A Dangerous Guide for Making Magic at Work’ and with a title like that couldn’t resist giving him a call to find out how to tap into that magic. I should warn you up front that this conversation gets a little dangerous so listen at your own risk.Follow Mykel on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/mykeldixon/ and visit https://www.mykeldixon.com/ to learn more about his amazing work and book.Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're talking about checking in.*Content Warning - This episode references themes relating to mental health*This special episode coincides with RUOK Day in Australia. RUOK Day is a day that people are encouraged to meaningfully connect with people around them and support anyone struggling with life. I thought there couldn’t be a more appropriate time to have this conversation.My guest is Lockie Cooke, and he recently told me that checking in isn’t just about reaching out in tough times but about creating consistent two way conversations.Lockie currently heads up iYarn, which is a new health and wellbeing software platform. iYarn facilitates safe spaces and creates a conversation canvas for people to come together to have meaningful conversationsI give him a call to explore how we can have better conversations when we check in.Follow Lockie on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lockiecooke/ and visit https://iyarn.com/ to learn more about the iYarn platform.Visit https://www.ruok.org.au/ to learn more about RUOK DayConnect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ Need to talk with someone? Please reach out for help.Lifeline: 13 11 14 or lifeline.org.auBeyond Blue: 1300 22 4636 or beyondblue.org.auBeyond Blue's coronavirus support service: 1800 512 348 or coronavirus.beyondblue.org.auKids Helpline: 1800 55 1800 or kidshelpline.com.auHeadspace: 1800 650 890 or headspace.org.au 

We're Talking budgets.But it’s probably not the type of conversation you’re imagining.My guest is bestselling author Melissa Browne and she believes Budgets don’t work. In fact she wrote a book and made it the title.She believes that when it comes to saving and spending money we’re not all the same and yet for a long time financial advice likes to treat us as though we are. So if budgeting isn’t the solution to our finances. What is? And why does it matter in leadership? I give Melissa a call to find out.  Follow Melissa on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-browne-5262b020/ and visit https://www.melissabrowne.com.au/ to learn more about her amazing workConnect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We’re having a conversation about Urgency.Today’s guest is Dermot Crowley and he says that "Urgency" is something that we need more of. But it might not be the kind of urgency you're thinking of.Dermot is a bestselling author with a number of books including “Smart Work and Smart Teams” and he has a new book out called “Urgent - Strategies to Control Urgency, Reduce Stress and Increase Productivity”Today I give Dermot a call to find out how we can leverage the power of urgency to avoid burnout and increase productivity. Connect with Dermot on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/dermotcrowley/ or visit http://adaptproductivity.com.au/ Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

We're Talking investment.Not property or shares, but leadership investment in your organisations best asset…its people.My guest is Colonel Tracy Michael recently told me that "before you can invest in others you need to take time to better understand yourself".I give him a call to unpack what this has looked like in his life and discover how the lessons can apply to ours. Connect with Tracy on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-michael-fache-fort-meade-medical-department-activity-1764a53a/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/ 

Wominjeka. I understand that this podcast is shared on a digital platform. And at the same time, it is also recorded in Melbourne on the lands of First Nation Peoples. So in the spirit of reconciliation, I wanted to include this additional recording and acknowledge the Wurundjeri People and the Boon Wurrung People of the Kulin Nation as the traditional custodians of the land I am speaking from. I want to recognise their continuing connection to land, waters and culture and pay my respects to their Elders past, present and emerging.

We’re talking engagement. My clever guest Col Fink recently told me that "no matter what attracted someone to your team, it's growth that makes them stay." I give him a call to learn more about how we can create truly engaging learning experiences for clients and staff. Learn more about Col Fink at https://colfink.com/Connect with Col on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/colfink/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/

We're talking about how to be brilliant in life and leadership. In her brand new book 'Be Brilliant – How to Lead a Life of Influence' bestselling author and today’s guest Janine Garner boldly declares "you have everything you need to be brilliant if you choose it". I give her a call to unpack some of the barriers that get in the way of that choice and what we can do to step out and own our own spotlight.  Learn more about Janine Garner at https://janinegarner.com.au/Connect with Janine on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/janinegarner/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/

We’re having a conversation about magic. Not the kind you'll find at hogwarts but the kind that today’s guest Emma McQueen tells me you find "at the intersection of Mindset, Motivation and Mojo". I recently read Emma's new book 'Go-getter' and wanted to give her a call to unpack what this kind of magic all about. Learn more about Emma McQueen at https://www.emmamcqueen.com.au/Connect with Emma on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmamcqueen/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/

We’re talking all things culture. Today’s guest is my friend and author Fiona Robertson. While many leaders know culture is the defining factor in performance, Fiona told me recently that “many still aren't sure how to identify or change it.” I give Fiona a call to explore her definition of culture and how it can help us to enhance results and create thriving organisations and teams.   Learn more about Fiona Robertson at https://fionarobertson.com/Connect with Fiona on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionarobertson-culture/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/

We are having a conversation on conversations. Paul Matthews is the author of an upcoming book called 'SWITCH: from telling, to powerful conversations' told me recently that "conversations are like rocket fuel for leaders. They build trust and are a catalyst for change, growth and innovation". I give him a call to pick his brain on what it looks like to do leadership conversations well.  Learn more about Paul Matthews at https://paulmatthews.com.au/Connect with Paul on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/thecommscoach/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/

We’re having an important conversation about reconciliation. This episode was recorded during reconciliation week - A time for all Australians to learn about our shared histories, cultures, and achievements, and to explore how each of us can contribute towards a more just, equitable and reconciled nation. Like many people I am on a journey to better understand what this really means and the role that I play as a leader. I called indigenous engagement and inclusion consultant Johnny Briggs to answer the question - "What does reconciliation mean for me? And what’s my role as a leader?" Learn more about Johnny Briggs at https://johnbriggs.net.au/Connect with Johnny on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbriggsconsultancy/Connect with Shane on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemhatton/