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emocleW, emocleW, emocleW to the Distraction Pieces Podcast with Scroobius Pip!This is your bonus FRIDAY REWIND episode! Today, we catch up with Taron Egerton, originally episode 350 from 2020-10-21.Original writeup below:As with so many of these episodes featuring the UK acting crew, there is an over-riding spiritual link by way of Stephen Graham, so props must be given to him first off! This one feels like another ‘long time coming' episode, where it was just a matter of time and arrangements to lock it in. Naturally there's lockdown talk up top, which is always fascinating as we all want to know how it's been affecting each other - Taron's found himself in Wales, which brings us to his upbringing (including Liverpool), and from then on you can expect some good talk on social media, RADA and family whip-rounds for auditions, early days (not THAT long ago!) on Kingsman, lessons learned through each film, voice acting vs acting-acting, Matthew Vaughn, Dexter Fletcher, Tom Hardy, his own filmography (including Eddie The Eagle and Rocketman to name a couple), and tons more. Uplifting and inspirational - you shall enjoy!PIP'S PATREON PAGE if you're of a supporting natureTARON ONLINETARON on INSTAGRAMTARON on TWITTERTARON on IMDBROCKETMANPIP TWITCH • (music stuff)PIP INSTAGRAMSPEECH DEVELOPMENT WEBSTOREPIP TWITTERPIP IMDBPOD BIBLE Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Chris Heimann, a theatre director, educator, and former leader of the improvisation curriculum at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art (RADA) in London. For nearly two decades, Chris has guided actors, leaders, and teams to cultivate presence, spontaneity, and embodied awareness — using improvisation as a pathway into deeper human connection and creative agency.Together, we explore what it means to work with what you've got, how play shapes our creativity, and why presence is perhaps the most powerful skill we have in a world that constantly pulls us away from the current moment.The conversation moves from childhood impulses to leadership, from somatic intelligence to curiosity, and from friction to flow. Chris and I reflect on improvisation as a form of research — a way to understand ourselves, each other, and the stories we co-create.How creative play can lead us to greater awarenessWhy presence is a leadership skillThe promise of any given momentWhy improvisation begins with “working with what you've got”Somatic intelligence and speaking through the bodyNavigating uncertainty: the art of letting goHow “yes, and…” can shift collaboration and leadershipThe difference between performing and researching through playSimple practices to cultivate presence in everyday lifeAbout ChrisDr. Chris Heimann led the improvisation curriculum at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art (RADA) for 19 years, teaching actors including Cynthia Erivo, Taron Egerton, Amy Lou Wood, and Marisa Abela. He is a two-time Fringe First Award–winning theatre director, and has spent 20 years coaching leaders and teams on communication, collaboration, creativity, and leadership. Chris is now based in Berlin, where he works through his company Spacecraft, helping individuals and organizations cultivate presence, awareness, and creative leadership.WebsiteLinkedIn
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Esta semana traemos mucho músculo actoral Arrancamos con la película de Jaochim Trier, Valor Sentimental, que ya mencionábamos la semana pasada, pero esta le echamos propiamente el diente con cuatro de sus actores nominados a los Globos de Oro De ahí a otra película nominada en los globos de oro: Jay Kelly que se estrena en NEtflix. Dirige Noah Baumbach y tiene tanto a George Clooney como Adam Sandler mencionados en sus categorías. Otro actor que se está labrando una carrera de lo más interesante es Taron Egerton que vuelve a nuestras pantallas en Amazon Prime con LA educación de Polly McClusky, terrible título para She Rides Shotgun Terminamos festivos con Oh What Fun, donde tenemos un reparto de lujo encabezado por Michelle Pfeiffer en una cinta navideña que pretende reivindicar la figura de las madres en las festividades. Y todo ello sin spoilers
NGSMAN & STATESMAN TEAM UP!! Kingsman: The Golden Circle Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: / thereelrejects Start your online business with a $1 per-month trial when you visit https://www.shopify.com/rejects! Kingsman: The Secret Service (2015) Movie Reaction: • KINGSMAN: THE SECRET SERVICE (2015) IS FRI... Gift Someone (Or Yourself) A Stranger Things RR Tee! https://shorturl.at/hekk2 Having met The Secret Service, Tara & Andrew RETURN to Matthew Vaughn's twisted Spy world giving their Kingsman: The Golden Circle Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis & Spoiler Review! Join Tara & Andrew as they continue on to Matthew Vaughn's (X-Men: First Class, Kick-Ass) adrenaline-fueled follow-up starring Taron Egerton (Rocketman, Black Bird) returning as Eggsy, now a full-fledged Kingsman facing tragedy when the entire organization is nearly wiped out by a coordinated attack. With Kingsman in ruins, Eggsy and Merlin (Mark Strong — 1917, Shazam!) travel to Kentucky to meet their U.S. counterparts — the Statesmen — including whiskey-sipping gunslinger Agent Tequila (Channing Tatum — Magic Mike, 21 Jump Street), tech genius Ginger Ale (Halle Berry — X-Men, John Wick 3), lasso-cracking cowboy Agent Whiskey (Pedro Pascal — The Mandalorian, Narcos), and their leader Champ (Jeff Bridges — True Grit, The Big Lebowski). Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/Agor711 Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
MANNERS MAKETH MAN!! Kingsman: The Secret Service Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: / thereelrejects Download PrizePicks today at https://www.prizepicks.onelink.me/LME... & use code REJECTS to get $50 instantly when you play $5! Gift Someone (Or Yourself) A Stranger Things RR Tee! https://shorturl.at/hekk2 Vecna: The Mind Slayer tee by @G9DESIGN & Dr. Stranger Things tee by @SASAMIIKU — perfect for hardcore fans & collectors alike With Matthew Vaughn's "The King's Man: The Traitor King" potentially in the works, Tara Erickson (The Rage Pod) & Andrew Gordon (Cinepals) DIVE INTO an insane world of espionage giving their Kingsman: The Secret Service Reaction, Recap, Analysis, Breakdown, & Spoiler Review! Join Tara & Andrew as they revisit Matthew Vaughn's (X-Men: First Class, Kick-Ass) sharply choreographed, wildly inventive espionage thriller based on the comic by Mark Millar & Dave Gibbons. The film stars Taron Egerton (Rocketman, Black Bird) in his breakout role as Eggsy, a street-smart kid recruited into the top-secret independent spy organisation known as Kingsman. Under the mentorship of the impeccably refined Harry Hart/Galahad — played by Colin Firth (The King's Speech, Bridget Jones's Diary) in a career-redefining action performance — Eggsy must face a deadly global threat. Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/Agor711 Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week's episode of the Empire Podcast sees Christmas on our mind as we enter December, and accordingly we deliver a sackful of great guests to you, our loyal and loving listeners. First off, Chris Hewitt goes to Taron Egerton's actual flat (smells divine... and the flat wasn't bad either) to sit down with him for a candid chat about his career, his new film She Rides Shotgun, and whether or not he knows his lines. [21:05 - 38:44 approx] Then, Chris sits down with two of his absolute faves, George Clooney and Adam Sandler, for a riotous conversation about their new movie, Jay Kelly, basketball, and accents. [1:03:17 - 1:22:31 approx] And finally Chris talks to Wicked: For Good director, Jon M. Chu, in an excerpt from our upcoming spoiler special for that movie. [1:43:57 - 1:55:17 approx] Either side of those, Chris is joined in the podbooth by Helen O'Hara and James Dyer to review Jay Kelly, She Rides Shotgun, It Was Just An Accident, and Eternity; discuss the week's movie news (a ton of which broke after we had finished recording, as ever); and answer the first Christmas-related questions of the year, which leads to an unexpected Die Hard/Love Actually mash-up, and the team trying to figure out how to take down an Infinity Gauntlet-wielding Santa Claus. Oh, and our intrepid trio also dig into Quentin Tarantino's recently revealed list of his 20 favourite films of the 21st Century, and his accompanying comments about Paul Dano. Enjoy!
Héctor ha visto en #PrimeVideo #LaEducaciónDePollyMcClusky (fatal título español de la original #SheRidesShotgun), un thriller protagonizad por Taron Egerton, quien también ejerce de productor, y Ana Sophia Heger. ¡Escuchad y opinad! También nos podéis encontrar aquí: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/52i1iqZ56ACal18GPkCxiW Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/es/podcast/los-tres-amigos/id1198252523 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3zK2XsnpHDGRujSTWHpL8Q Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/e0b56d4f-4537-47e0-a252-9dfe56b5a490/los-tres-amigos Grupo de Telegram: https://t.me/LosTresAmigos https://www.facebook.com/LosTresAmigosPodcast/ Instagram: lostresamigospodcast Bluesky: @los3amigospodcast.bsky.social X / Twitter: @tresamigospod Threads: lostresamigospodcast Letterbox: https://letterboxd.com/LosTresAmigos/ #Thriller #Acción #Crimen #RoadMovie
Our latest bonus guests on Soundtracking with Nick Rowland and Taron Egerton, who join us to discuss Nick's latest film, She Rides Shotgun, which you can watch now on Amazon Prime. In it, Taron stars as a newly released ex-con marked for death by unrelenting enemies, who must protect his estranged 11-year-old daughter at all costs. As with Nick's previous film, the brilliant Calm With Horses, She Rides Shotgun is scored by Ben Power, aka Blanck Mass
Repaso estrenos streaming: desde un padre exconvicto huyendo con su hija en Prime Video hasta una luna de miel gay que se vuelve infernal en Movistar.
This is episode 3 of the third season of The Directors Take Podcast. In this week's special episode your hosts Marcus Anthony Thomas and Oz Arshad are joined in conversation by Director Nick Rowland, who is seen as one of the UK's and Hollywood's brightest young stars. He joins us to talk about his latest release She Rides Shotgun, an action thriller which stars Taron Egerton and Ana Sophia Heger, available now on Amazon Prime. Nick breaks down his journey, process and the difficulties in dealing with expectation in this revealing conversation that very much centres on craft. This conversation covers the following: -Nick's journey into directing from Rally driving. -How he navigated his early career/expectation. -The difficulty of imposter syndrome. -His philosophy on directing and how it relates to his sensibilities as a human. -The difficulties of making a first feature film. -His struggles and learnings around tone in film. -How Nick prepares for interviews and pitches. -A breakdown of the craft of She Rides Shotgun and his philosophy in working with actors. NUGGET OF THE WEEK Marcus: Dancing in the Ashes (short film) Oz: SLAP (short film) Nick: Pablo Neruda's poetry Credits Music by Oliver Wegmüller Socials The Directors' Take: Twitter (X) & Instagram Marcus: Twitter (X) & Instagram Oz: Twitter (X) & Instagram Nick: Instagram & Directors Now If you have any questions relating to the episode or have topics you would like covering in future releases, reach out to us at TheDirectorsTake@Outlook.com
This week on Deux/U, Deux is joined by RONY star Erin Lichy to discuss her new cookbook, "She's a Host". She's also talking about the hottest topics of the week, including: Sophie Turner + Chris Martin Chris Evans + Alba Baptista Megan Fox + Machine Gun Kelly Voicemails: Jacob Elordi, Jonas Brothers, Richard Madden, Taron Egerton, Lily Allen To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Fire investigator Dave Gudsen is assigned a new partner to help capture two arsonists. One has been setting fires with milk jugs filled with gasoline and grease. The other has been taunting officials with a delayed-ignition device that's burning grocery stores. Dave draws on his experience to write a novel about a heroic arson investigator with unusual insight into his suspect's mind. To Detective Michelle Calderone, the book reads more like a confession. She begins to wonder whether her partner's uncanny ability to pinpoint these fires' origins is because he's been setting them himself.Taron Egerton and Jurnee Smollett star in the Apple TV+ series “Smoke,” inspired by the podcast “Firebug.” The show also features Greg Kinnear, John Leguizamo, and Anna Chlumsky. As Dave closes in on the other arsonist he's hunting, Michelle secretly collects evidence to learn whether the smoke surrounding her partner will lead to actual fire.OUR SPOILER-FREE REVIEWS OF "SMOKE" BEGIN IN THE FINAL 13 MINUTES OF THE EPISODE.In Crime of the Week: milkin' it. For exclusive podcasts and more, sign up at Patreon.Sign up for our newsletter at crimewriterson.com.
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Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
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Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
K-Pop Demon Hunters K-Pop Demon Hunters sounds like a joke title, but this action packed adventure/romance/musical/ martial arts action film… is really something different! The surprise animated hit of the year which has been not only smashing streaming video records (thats Netflix for ya), but also demolishing the music charts (Golden hitting no. 1 on Spotify!) is something nobody saw coming, but now that it’s here we may never be the same! Its a heady mix of Korean mythology, flying swords-person action, heartbreaking romance, radical self acceptance and all with a K-Pop soundtrack that lets be clear… absolutely slaps. We have a special guest for this show, with our beloved Ardella (Bec) chiming in to profess her undying love of this unexpected gem! Dion may have his demonic grump on, but Jill and Quinny both are singing from the hymn-book of hon-moon creation. Synopsis K-Pop Demon Hunters” tells the story of a K-pop girl group, Huntrix, who are also demon hunters, tasked with protecting the world from demons and their king, Gwi-Ma. They use their music to maintain a magical barrier called the Honmoon and work towards strengthening it into the Golden Honmoon, which would permanently banish demons. Their mission is complicated when a rival demon boy band, the Saja Boys, emerges, stealing their fans and weakening the Honmoon. https://youtu.be/gsMp_Oq-_mY As always, a musical magical thank-you to the K-popping demon hunting divas who join in with the conversation on the Twitch stream, live each Tuesday night at 7:30pm AEDT. And an especially huge thanks to any of the glow stick waving uber fans who are kind enough to support us by programming a tip in our jar via Ko-Fi, or subscribing on twitch… every bit helps us to keep the honmoon strong and if not golden, a bit bronzed… If you feel so inclined drop us a sub we really love them, The more subby mc-sub-faces we get, the more Emotes You get! https://youtu.be/3JTVQTk36R8?si=CPEwLl_mx84YG1Iw https://youtu.be/yebNIHKAC4A?si=ImoyGFkIO-pC3a99 https://youtu.be/983bBbJx0Mk?si=_B-EAl_rChUeZ8c0 WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK! Send in voicemails or emails with your opinions on this show (or any others) to info@theperiodictableofawesome.com Please make sure to join our social networks too! We're on: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TPToA/ Twitter: www.twitter.com/TPToA Facebook: www.facebook.com/PeriodicTableOfAwesome Instagram: www.instagram.com/theperiodictableofawesome/ Full text transcript Dion Ohh hello and welcome to the periodic Table of awesome. Well, we’re getting on to this Tuesday night, going down the good old road of something Netflix. Are you related? Hello. Yes. Quinny Hello, we’re going down. And we’re going down, down, down. Speaker 3 I know. Quinny What, John, why aren’t? Dion You singing. I don’t understand the concept. What the **** is happening? This is not a regular. Hi. My name is Dion. I’m joined tonight by Queenie and I’m joined by Jill. And I’m joined by Beck. Pop. Hello, pop. It’s been a while. Thanks for joining us. This one. Quinny Hey, welcome back. Dion Because yeah, for your viewing pleasure, you’re helping us talk about K pop. Ardella I am. I am this cultural phenomenon has been on repeat in my household for the last month, so I’m thrilled to talk about it. Speaker Hi. Jill Oh. Dion Oh. Ardella On the Internet. Dion A month. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Ardella OK, we are late to this party. Dion I am but I I’m 100% late to this party only because. Yeah, sorry. Quinny All right. Dion Good to you. Quinny No, no, no. I like I said, I actually talked about it. I don’t know the weekend it came out or the like. I watched it because I had nothing else on. I was sitting on the couch and I was like, that looks entertaining. I’ll just put that on in the background. And was then kind of like this is ******* cool. And then when in the next episode, I’m like Jill, Jill, Jill, you gotta you gotta check it out. You gotta check it. And she’s like. Jill Like, leave me alone. Otherwise I won’t watch. Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. And then the. Quinny It was like Jill, Jill, Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny, Penny, and she’s like, leave me alone. Jill Next, let’s do yeah. Sorry, it’s it’s the Aries. You can’t tell me what to do. Quinny Yeah, the license. Ardella Can I just say though, despite being one of the longest bloody trailers in the world, I. I’m so impressed by how little it manages to give away, and I wonder if we can manage to give away a similar level of not spoilers. Jill Yeah. Quinny Yeah, we can. We can. I mean we can. We also do a. Spoilery bit after we’ve done the thing, but. Ardella I remember how this works. Quinny OK, OK. Ardella I also remember that we often suck it, not giving too many spoilers in the free spoiler bit. Quinny This is a good point. Well made. Jill OK, we’re going to be as vague as. Quinny Possible. Yeah. So how did your come to it? Did you just find it on Netflix? Did did somebody recommend? Jill It to you. I know. Yeah. Somebody annoyed. Me to watch it, yeah. Dion No, Quinn. He made me watch it. Ardella Yes. Yeah. Did he tape your eyelids open and struck you to the chair? Yeah. Dion Yeah, it’s 100% Clockwork Orange, me. For this but but I’ve got this. Speaker 1 Yep. Quinny And I’m not sad. I’m not. I’m not. Embarrassed about that? Dion I’ve got this weird. Sort of tick now that I have to keep kind of doing this and I feel like I need to do choreographed dances every now and again. So I don’t know what’s happening. I don’t know anything about. Jill Can teach you. Quinny See, I don’t think we were fully aware that Beck was as into this as not as until like you you posted a video to us. You’re like look at. Dion Excellent. Speaker 4 This did you dance? Dion Like ohh OK, you know, we’re gonna talk about stuff that, like quite blatantly. I have absolutely no ******* idea what’s going on. Jill I mean. Dion We might as well open the floor up to people who do know what the **** is. Ardella Going on, but have you watched it dear? Dion Yes, I watched it from the start to the last song. Ardella Great. How? How the **** do you still? Have no idea what is going on then. Dion Have you seen the film? Ardella It’s a very cromulent storyline. Speaker 2 No wonder. Dion Here’s what’s going on. They’re just doing things on screen and singing songs and going. This is good. Yeah. And you’re watching it. Jill Yeah, pop music is a part of Concepto dialog. OK, yeah. Dion Sure. Ardella Dion should never go and see a. Jill Thank you. Speaker 13 Musical is what? Ardella We’re hearing this is an even musical. Quinny No, no. Speaker 13 Devil story. Dion No, this isn’t far off though. Speaker 13 Season. Dion This is it. Musical level storytelling and I watched it. And I’m not saying like things are bad or weird or out of my comfort zone. It’s just it’s not really for me. Speaker 3 Dion And that’s OK, you know. Ardella You’re allowed to be wrong. Jill He often is. Quinny Also I I will point out that that Dean had had a very, very long bad day by the time that this came onto his screen and I kind of get the feeling that it was like. Speaker 4 Oh. Quinny Is that a reasonably accurate description deal? Dion Look, you know I’m not. I’m able to separate church and state here. I can understand the value of something even though my personal opinions may have coloured it slightly. That being said, I still don’t really know what’s going on in Capot demon. Jill Would you? Would you like this is not. Speaker 4 Let’s let’s have us. Dion I mean, sure, if you think I’ve got it, I wonder if I’ve got any music somewhere. Hang on a second. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. OK. K pop. Hang on. What voice am I doing? Speaker 13 Nothing, right? Quinny Well, that’s it. Somebody else better do. Dion Ohh no. Quinny OK, K pop demon hunters tells the story of A K pop girl group called Hunt Tricks, who are also demon hunters tasked with protecting the world from demons from for their king Guimar. They use their music to maintain a magical barrier called the honeymoon, and work towards strengthening. Hit into the golden Hon moon. Which would permanently vanish. Ardella Day and age of Tik toking. And if you’re my age, Instagram, reeling a week after it’s appeared on TikTok. We’ve basically have a a huge collection of people who’ve basically seen half the movie through real. Or tick tocks and then go. OK, I may as well go and watch this movie now. So I think that a lot of people have had that experience when Quinny mentioned it. I then was like, let’s watch the trailer for this and was on board after watching the trailer and. Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Ardella My partner and I sat down and. Watched it over Friday night. We were amazed by the number of layers that this movie has that you do not get from the trailer, and I was on board just with what that surface level stuff was already. Quinny Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was the thing that surprised me. It was just the the like from a trailer, like or because I didn’t even see a trailer. I just saw it pop up on Netflix, as you know, the the, The little preview that starts playing. And I was like. Ardella Yeah, that’s the trailer. Quinny Well, but it I didn’t even watch the whole thing like it was just sort of there in the background and I was. I don’t know what that is. But **** it looks cool. Dion Did you just hit it like a fricking pokie machine button? As soon as it popped up, you were like chin, let’s do this. Quinny My good addition. Yeah, sorry, Jill. You’re gonna. Jill Say something. Yeah, I think at the time, quinny, when you said. Hey, Jill, have you watched K pop demon hunters yet? I think my best friend had also watched it and had, like. Posted a story about it and all I heard all over Instagram was the the main song from it Golden. It was on everything and not just like animated clips of the movie, but like just people’s reels. They’re using that song. And so I was like, oh, no. Speaker 4 Hmm. Jill This is the hype zone. Jill doesn’t like being. Speaker 4 5th. Jill In the hype zone. Jill wants to avoid ever watching stuff that gets into the hype zone. I still have not watched Everything Everywhere, all at once because it got too hyped, so this was heading in that direction and went. Queenie, when you said to me, have you watched it yet? I was like, I’ll get to it. Ardella Was interesting that you mentioned that Jill, because there are theme crossovers. Jill Yeah. So I don’t push me. But then I. Kept hearing the bloody music. I’m like ****, this is a catchy song and then I think it got to like the following weekend and I’m like, I’m not gonna talk to anybody about this, but I’m gonna watch. Speaker It. Jill And I was like, oh, that’s great. Quinny Because I’ve seen so many people who, like, have watched it, and then it’s just become their whole personality. Jill Ohh yeah, I mean that was on heavy rotation like the album it was. It became a hyper fixation for a. Quinny Yes. Jill Week. Dion Wait, so can I just get this one like coming into this just a little bit blind, you know, from this whole stuff. So you’re telling me that there are real people in the real world that saw the small part of this and it’s become a hyper fixed? Speaker 4 Yeah. Dion Which is mirroring the fact that the fans of this band in the fake world have a hyper fixation problem. Ardella So interestingly, interestingly, the soda pop song by the Demon Boy Band for a very long time there took over the charts from the actual you know, K pop boy band of the moment BTS. Quinny You say? Speaker 4 Oh yes. Dion The soju boys. I love the soju boys, they’re great. Speaker 4 Ohh I love some soju. Quinny Beck, how do you feel about this? Pineapple surgery. Speaker 1 What? Dion Soulja boys. Jill I like the lemon one, it’s. Dion Delicious. Jill Kind of funky, but it’s good. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the one with the six pack. Ardella But what’s what’s really interesting about the soundtrack to this as compared to a traditional musical, is in a traditional musical, you’ve always got that one song that everyone skips or tunes out goes to the bathroom during it’s usually the one that the token old man sings. Jill Ohh OK. Speaker 13 But. Ardella If you think about it, is. Quinny It’s the talk singing 1. You give it to the guy who can barely sing. Jill Ohh yeah yeah. Jeff Goldblum. Number in wicked. Yeah, exactly. Ardella There are no low points in this soundtrack and. Quinny In new tiles. Ardella I think even. The one song that when I was watching the movie for the first time I was like, this is kind of my bathroom breaks on. When I went back and listened to the soundtrack. Speaker 13 Through by. Ardella Wolf it was still a banger. I was still singing along. I was still fully on board. I was finding all the hidden messages in the lyrics. I don’t think there is a a dud on this soundtrack. Quinny Nope. And as of 2 days ago, Golden went to literal #1 on the Billboard chart like it’s ******* stupid. Ardella Something that’s really cool about the creatives behind this entire movie is that the movie has so many authentic South Korean cultural elements to it that it has become huge in South Korea as well. And many, many people there. Speaker 3 Hmm. Ardella Absolutely love it, which is so wonderful because there have has been a lot of outcry in the past about South Korean culture being misrepresented. And this is a wonderful example of cultural appreciation rather than appropriation, and one of the reasons behind that is that they have actually included many South Korean genuine K pop stars and producers, writers, and the singing voice of. The main main individual from home tricks. She was a K pop star in training who went away to go to school and stopped Kpop training. And when she came back to try and be a K pop star they told her she was too old and couldn’t do it. Anymore. And so she became a writer and a producer. Of K pop music instead, and now is singing on this and has gone to the top of the charts so incredibly hard. And I think that that lends this incredible authenticity to it, but also is kind of like a stuff you to the industry at the same time, which is amazing. Dion Because it’s look, it’s a curious thing about the the making of it, because actually, yes, I did. I watched the whole thing and then I even watched the credits where they showed all the behind the scenes bits of the people in there. And I thought that was really interesting. And then reading more about it and trying to find out more about it. I was like, oh, that’s interesting that they have. A bunch of Korean American. Others. Doing the voice work, but then a bunch of South Korean singers doing the song work and I was just a little bit like oh, oh, OK like why, why the need for the split like? Ardella They’re two different skill sets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quinny You you don’t find that many actors who can sing that ******* well. Like who can sing to the level that is required of. Ardella Yeah. The vocal range in golden is outstanding. That is like 3 octaves of belting. That’s insanity. Dion I’m asking the question to not because I’m attacking the I’m not asking the question because I might. Why? They have to get more. You know, why is it a whole bunch of different sort of people in there? Jill Deon, Every Disney musical movie had a talking voice actress and a singing voice actress as well. It was. Dion I’m pretty sure John Oliver did all the singing for his parts as Zazu, right? Ardella Not all. Yeah, not all of them. I think the more recent ones like Moana, the. Dion Of course I know. Jill Yeah. The more, yeah, I mean, the classic ones, I mean the ones from the. Ardella Voice actor sings as well. Jill 90s when we were kids. Ardella Yeah. Speaking of which. Dion Sure. Jill Yes, the travesty of casting Leah Salonga in this movie. Ardella Yeah. And then giving her 30 seconds of background vocals to do. Leah Salonga was the singing voice of Jasmine and Mulan, and is an incredible musical theatre. Jill Yeah, crazy. Ardella Actress and amazing singer and is in there as like the the main mentor character for the Huntress Girls. And has no real singing. It’s so background that I didn’t even notice when it happened. Jill It’s devastating, but. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. Like, like putting, I don’t know. One of the. Yeah. Mariah Carey is a background character. Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. Like what? Ardella Mariah would never let that happen. Quinny No, no, absolutely not. So what was it about it that that sort of caught your eye? Immediately because I know what put me on the back foot straight away and made me go. That’s different. But I’d love to. Know what you guys thought? Dion What? What? Yeah. So there’s two. There’s two parts in that which which caught your eye. And there was a bit that caught you on the back foot which. Quinny Was your question what? What caught your what? One you were talking about excited you, really. Grabbed you. What? Dion Was that what put you? What put you on the front foot? Linked you into this show? Quinny The. What? Yeah, yeah. Jill The music I think, like I I enjoy the odd K pop. I’m. I’m not a die hard. I’m not a I don’t have a bias. I’m not like fully into the K pop culture. But I do enjoy the music peripherally, and so I thought like the songs were so catchy. And then when I saw, like, some of the animated stuff, I’m like, ohh, that’s very reminiscent of the spider verse animation. And then I realized it was a Sony thing. And then I’m like, OK. Well, this is probably going to be good. Ardella Yeah. I think the thing that put me off was the time. Speaker 4 Well. Ardella What the hell is that? Title K pop Demon Hunters makes me think that this is trash and it is trash, but the best kind of crack trash. It’s amazing. Jill Quinny MHM. Jill OK, you know what? It’s 100% tapped into for me was the female power story, but based in music like. I was one of those kids that was like ohh yeah, I wanna be in a girl band like that was like one of my fantasy things when I was. A child, but. Also, like yeah, being a superhero too. And like Sailor Moon. Is so intrinsic for me. It really had those kind of vibes of like, you know, magical girls that can save the planet. Quinny Yeah. Yeah, that’s one of the first things I why I was like, ohh you would love it. Just for the magical girl factor. Like the the costume changes the. Speaker 4 What’s this? Quinny The that that very Sailor Moon kind of vibe. Ardella What’s so interesting for me about? The introduction, just the opening sequence was that. Speaker 2 Hmm. Speaker That. Ardella Funky kind of intro music. The the K pop music that it starts with reminds me a lot of earlier K pop when I was into it and some of my South Korean friends just roll their eyes at me because I think that my idea of K pop is like someone. These days, being like my favorite band is the Backstreet Boys. You know, it’s like ohh sweetie. Jill OK. Ardella There we go. Yeah, you’re you’re the the shush now, grandma. Everything’s fine. Because my my favourites were like the Wonder Girls. And you know quite quite early K pop. I think, you know, compared to what’s in today, but. Dion You can. Ardella It’s just so funky and fun, and the fact that. It immediately started with the classic K pop mixing of Korean lyrics in with English lyrics, and then the flip to rap in there as well, and the rap being in both Korean and English, it really grabbed me in that I was like, OK, this is. Actually K pop it, it’s not just in the name, they are actually going with it and I found it really interesting learning afterwards that the K pop element was the last thing to be added into this storyline. Dion Yeah. Ardella Interesting. Yeah, that that was the last kind of piece of the puzzle when they were developing this movie was creating it as a K pop story. Dion Which is very strange because I think the thing that made me. Sort of get on board a bit with it. Like a bit more was the fact that it was self aware enough to understand some of? The. Insanity behind massive mass market fandom? Not that anyone is immune to it, like it’s all around when you go looking hard and you know the West. The West has borrowed from the that that world very heavily in the past. Our last Spice Girls etcetera, etcetera. Quinny Not that hard. Dion Was the ability for it to just to be self aware take a bit of fun, have a bit of fun with it, and then continue on go like, yeah, we acknowledge that there’s this there is there is some weird **** that happens in that world and we’re just going to lean into it and understand that it’s part of it. And then move. For with the rest of it, you know, apart from the animation is great and the characters were somewhat likeable. Quinny There, there, there are two things that got me straight up. So initially looking at it, I thought oh, wow, this reminds me of what, KD A yeah, which, you know, is the the League of Legends K Pop group. And I was like, OK, we’re obviously kind of gonna. Yes. That’s the thing there. Dion Thank you. You’re not like you’re saying things like Katie and I’m like, wait, is it three letter acronym? Should I know? What the **** is going on here? Kill. Kill, death, aggression. Quinny K/BA. Dion Right, OK. So just just help me with. This it’s a foreign territory. Quinny They they are a a AK pop group that was done by the animation company that did League of Legends. So they’ve they’ve got a couple of songs that I actually have no idea how many songs they have about that. And I looked at that and I thought, OK, there’s a touch point. But the thing that and I have the same thing. Hip hop demon hunters. What a stupid ******* name. But watching it, I got to about 5 minutes in and the moment that they’re on the plane and. And they allowed their characters to be ugly and to do stupid faces. And they’re beautiful characters who are fully, you know, gorgeous and made-up, and everything are burping and, like, eating ramen and fighting like ******* demons. But at the same time, they are. Very, very comedic and and I was like oh. ****, this is really kind of like as as soon as I watch it. I was like, this is gonna play to a a female crowd so. Well because it’s not saying look at these perfect, you know, pristine things. These are people who just want to have snacks and lie on the couch and you know relax and be ******* normal. Humans, but at the same time, they want to be super powerful. You know, warlocks that are protecting the world from demons and **** like that. Like this is every little girl’s ******* dream combined and. I was like, holy ****. Jill Yeah, like women can be multifaceted. They’re not just put into one box. Quinny The power of that. Jill As one thing. Ardella They can, but there’s absolutely no way an actual K pop band would be allowed to pig out on. Speaker 4 Junk. Yeah, that’s the thing. It’s. Ardella That’s not happening in the real life world, I’m sorry to say. That is. I mean, when we think about. Dion But but but. The dropping in out of a plane? Sure. Speaker 4 Just. Ardella Kind of disbelief there. Day on. Yeah, carries through. It carries through. But I do think that it’s interesting having that acknowledgement of. I mean it, it’s it’s an an issue, an underlying issue. I think the treatment of pop stars and this isn’t just a problem in South Korea with K pop or in Japan with J Pop, although it’s a very similar kind of culture from my understanding, yeah, in the their K pop J pop. Machines that churn out these bands that are designed and kind of almost bread to create hype and money and. All of this, we see it in like Dan was saying in. The Spice Girls. Quinny Yep. Ardella As well, we see it in these manufactured bands that have been created to take our love and to take our money, OK. Quinny The eagles. Jill There’s literally another program on Netflix right now called building the band. Ardella Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I think it’s really interesting then to look at our K pop demon band. And see that they are. They’re they’re saying the quiet part out loud with with the demon boy band here. But the reality is that that is what all K pop bands are. They are there to take the love to take the energy and to take the money of their fans. And they’ve been created. Expressly to do that. And so I I just find that really interesting to have. That kind of duality on display where we’re saying no hunt tricks are the the good guys when the reality is that. All K pop bands are there to do exactly what the Demon Boy band are doing. Dion Yes. Quinny And that duality is also encompassed in the lead character as well that, yeah, there are so many elements of things that she is not comfortable with. There’s elements of her public perception that she’s not comfortable with and. You kind of like the stories of the three characters. You know that that one of them is the bad girl who doesn’t get on with her family. The other ones come from, you know, America and is is a a rapper, but she’s also really sweet. All of these things are. Prepackaged they’re made to make them assailable, you know, definable feature. Ardella A personality. Quinny Yeah, yeah, that people can latch on to, but then you’re also watching and going. Yeah, they’re really funny. And they’re really cool. And I like them. And, you know, they’re they’re little horn dogs. And they, they, they just turn into popcorn and. Dion Thank, thankfully. Yeah, I mean, thankfully, you know, they they expressed all those lessons and of course that was the end of it. And this is all we have when. There’s one. Oh, no. That’s why there’s going to be sequels and a TV show and a live stage show. And it’s like, oh, oh, no, the demons won. Ohh no. Jill That’s one thing that I I would like to talk about a bit more is like the actual structure of the story. I know we’re not gonna give anything away, but I was interested that it was a movie. TV and not a TV series because I felt like there could have been a lot more character development actually happened throughout a TV series. I wanted more about the back story of the girl’s mentor. I wanted a little bit more time with the Saga boys in the demon. From in general, yeah, just a little bit more fleshing out of story I thought would be great. Ardella Apparently it was originally 3 hours long and I. Saw. Someone, I think it might have been tally in the in the chat mentioned that earlier. Jill I’d watch 3 hours of this. Quinny Yeah, I’m there for, I mean. Speaker 3 Actually really. Ardella Joined a 90 minute movie though. Speaker 4 We have so many long. Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. Ardella *** films coming out these days and the pacing in this felt great. I would much rather be left wanting more than be left sitting on my couch, scrolling Instagram halfway through because I’m like, this is a this is a. Speaker I wanted. Jill Sure. Ardella Dull bed. Quinny Yeah, yeah, this is the song that I’m not into. And that’s the reprise of the song. I’m not. Into. Speaker 13 It’s the old man song again. Speaker Ohh. Quinny It’s something I did like though is is while I was watching it. I you know the first number I was like ohh yeah, this is pretty cool. And then within the 1st 13 minutes, there were three, you know, musical numbers, completely different songs. Like I was watching, and I was like, oh ****, this is a secret musical. It’s not that secret, but it’s a proper musical and that, I mean, for me, for my, my taste, that was ******* great sick. Amazing and like to your point, Dion, I immediately then go totally see. This is a stage. And to your point, Beck. Ohh one of you. I’m not sure who was. Yes, I could see it working as a series because there’s a lot more to explore, and while Dion, I know that you’re like the capitalist pigs, they’re just trying to make money out of the kids sometimes. That’s OK. Because this is a ******* cool story. Speaker 4 Yeah, I I mean. Ardella If you do like everyone wants our money, it is a we live in a society. Speaker Oh. Jill Here at the in the high points of the capitalism, my friend. Ardella Yeah, but I think that there is a a way that feel feels friendly and genuine to do that and this is hitting that nail for me. And there’s a way that feels inauthentic and. Speaker Hmm. Ardella Cash grabby and that’s not this at the moment. We’ll see how many spin offs they try and squeeze out of this and when it tips that line. Speaker Sure. Ardella But I think at the moment it still feels. Dion And in 15 years, when Netflix rolls back around and makes a live action version of the K pop Demon Hunters franchise, we will know hey. Yeah, now. Ardella Warm and flat. Quinny Ohh, so he said. They’re not doing it. Dion If you’re talking about. Quinny They they they got, they got absolutely ******* pilloried on the Internet when the initial run of things that they announced was live action. Make stage show and ongoing series. Everyone said do not ******* do this live action they. Dion Quinny. Went OK. Producers don’t care. It’s just that now there’s a lot of complaints. They’ll wait till they’re less complaints and then they’ll do it anyway for a tax break. That’s how the system works, quinny. Speaker 4 That. Quinny So you’ve got another K pop. Dion People. Speaker 6 Exactly. Speaker 3 For me. Speaker You know like. Dion Stuff will happen that way, unfortunately and sometimes, fortunately, anyway, philosophically. Ardella Well, the sequel has already been greenlit by Netflix, which is unsurprising given that this is apparently in the couple of months that it’s been out a month and 1/2 that it’s been out. It has already topped all other animated movies on Netflix for the most watched. Dion Yeah. And we’re a good time behind as we have already. Explain like in in terms of the pickup of this is that came out in June, you know and it’s now **** me, August. Quinny Yes. Speaker Yeah. Quinny That’s the official date. Dion Yeah, yeah. Every time I look at the calendar these days. Ardella It is now **** me. Dion I’m like ****. Anyway. Quinny I’m Jill. I want to know on your your new rating system, how many? How many tips have you got less after this? Speaker 4 ****. No. I think that’s a good. Jill 2 tips off. Dion Ohh no **** left. Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, I it it. Yeah, it. Put my ****. Jill Off I enjoyed it a lot more than I. Dion Jill is Jill is untited. Jill Was expecting to because like. I know Queenie loves animation and so his glowing review was like Oh well, it’s gotta be good. And then also my friend who loves K pop and and animation as well and even her husband who enjoys animation like both raved about it. So I’m like, OK well. This has got to be good. That kind of got me in to watch it, but it’s so strange that like. I then convinced my other friend group to watch it and they were all like, oh, this is very kiddy and every everybody else thought it was. It was quite junior, but I didn’t really. Get that read. Quinny No. Jill They were like ohh it seems like a bit of a teen bop kind of thing and I’m like, well, I am 15 years old. Guys like, that’s why I like it. Speaker 4 I think this. Ardella Is very Shrek adjacent in the figure. Pitch the kid. TV like category if you want to put. Jill Yeah, but there’s. Ardella It there, but it’s so grown up. Jill This was the stuff for the horn bag older women like. Speaker 4 Is that what you say, Shrek? Yes. Quinny She’s not. Dion Shrek can get it. Speaker I mean. Dion Shrek can’t get. I mean, sorry. Before we go into the ratings, which we should do soon to try. Speaker 4 Yeah. Quinny No, no. We need to talk about so. Dion And keep in time. Quinny Many more things. Dion Yeah, there are many things to talk about. The the Quinny, you did raise a point to me the other day talking about K pop demon hunters, which is going. Yes, it’s an interesting comparison, like an interesting comparison film to perfect blue, which we talked about recently too and. Speaker 2 Yeah. Dion I was like. You may have a point. Jill Maybe not a companion piece. Dion There. Quinny I don’t know. I think I think they’re a fantastic companion faced 11 after the other and just. Dion Thematically. Thematically, it’s it’s somewhat similar in in in certain ways, not not the same way, like let’s they’re too. Jill Ones are very dark and twisted version. Dion Exactly, but they both. Quinny Yeah, what’s when’s the demons we met. Along the way. Dion But they both talk about fandoms. They both talk about the some of the crushing nature of conformity and having to represent yourself as something you may not be, and the damage that that could do. And. And let’s be honest, yeah, it diverges. Very, very different. But there are interesting themes and it’s really interesting to me to think about that. That film made back in the 90s was like working out these problems then and how far we’ve come and how we relate to it. Now, how creatives are relating to that now in this space with, you know, capable demon hunters is like, yeah, look at all these. Things that are still pretty much a problem, but we’re going to acknowledge that they have been a problem and that, you know, these are the things and but we still keep going because we have good messages that we want to try to put out. And if we could all make some money, that’s. Great. But if we have competition, we will crush. It that’s one take away I got from from like K Pop bands is they crush each other. Speaker 1 Also. Dion As they can. Jill In the charts in the. Dion Yeah, it’s in the chat, but literally. Quinny Charts that I think you know differentiate some really very differently is that in perfect blue fandom is seen as being toxic and dangerous and bad. In this one fandom is is the beautiful glowing. Power of house that will save the world and die on your face. Is telling me that you ain’t buying any of this. Dion I think that’s a stretch. Ardella Ship, haven’t we all been in a a stadium watching a band that you love and just all singing along at once and just felt that that vibe? I mean, it’s what gets people into cult. So you know that it can be used for good or for ill. Quinny I was we we we both watched 11,000 with 11,000 other people. People rolled dice. Speaker 14 Yeah. Speaker 1 Yeah. Dion I mean I. Speaker 3 Yeah, it’s. Dion Went I went to the Jared Leto 1 and that was fine. I’m normal. Ardella It’s a powerful thing, is what I’m getting at, yeah. Quinny Yeah. Dion I get. Speaker Quinny You and in the chat a couple of people mentioned that there’s a comparison with the Puss in Boots, the last Wish, same automotive. Ardella I thought his favorite movie of all time. Dion I still haven’t. I still haven’t watched it. Even though you keep telling me I. I know. I know get that ***** kids. You know, like there’s only so many. Quinny Fine. Ardella Come here. We will. Clockwork Orange you again. Dion Alright, time to go to my friend’s house and be forced. Watched it or something. Quinny Yeah. Ardella That’s how I feel about the drunk DC. Watches that we’ve. Dion Oh yeah, we still gonna. Do that one. Quinny Hmm. Dion I still haven’t seen Aquaman 2. Can we bookend it? Which? One should go first, is it? Speaker 2 Oh. Speaker 13 I didn’t even know. Ardella There was an Aquaman. Ohh yeah. Speaker 4 Yes, ******* all. Dion Yeah. Anyway, OK, think of your think of your ratings. Yes, rate, rate and rate and spoil. Speaker 4 Should we right and then spoil? Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Quinny And if you have seen it in the chat, drop me some numbers so that I can put them into the thing I love. I love keeping an eye out for them. Dion Look, OK, I’ll look. I’ll start. Cause Get Me Out of the way. Why? Not. RIP the Band-Aid. Off, yeah, I look, I had a fun time because it was quite poppy and exciting and the animation is actually quite flawless. I like the characters all had a bit of humanity in them. They weren’t that way. U. Kind of. Everyone kind of worked. There’s definitely a saleable marketable thing going because that blue cat is why is that not a plushy already? Speaker 4 Oh yes. Quinny Going to tell you about the blue cat. Ardella Derpy is his name. Dion Derpy is great. Yeah. OK, all the like. It’s good. I can see the the bit of the franchise there. And I can also see. Speaker He loves derpy. Dion Me having to scream when I hear the song again after the yeah, yeah. Yeah. 100% not for me, but I will give it 75. Because yeah, like, I think it’s good. Like if someone said, hey, you know, should I watch K pop diamonds? I’m like, yeah, like, you know, I recommend it to people with small kids. I don’t recommend all the way up to people who are 75. Yeah. I was the whole gamut. You can get something out of it. There is a good message in there. Ardella 75 yeah. Dion And I think it’s quite a little hidden gem or. Unreleased jam, even if you don’t particularly like K Pop. Quinny Fair, Jill. Sorry. Jill Yeah. Look, I’m so excited to say that I have no tips after this film. It’s been a while. It’s been a while, but I am going to give it a 90. Speaker Off. Quinny We yellow. Jill Been a while since we’ve hit the nines for me, but I love that animation. There were just some moments where I was like. What am I watching like? This is just like the textures and everything were so ******* beautiful. There were moments where I’m like Christ, that looks almost realistic. Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Jill Loved how everybody had a personality. Everyone was like, different. Had their clerks had their faults, like had their beautiful moments. The only reason why it’s not getting more is because there were just some like small unresolved story things that I wish had been explored a little bit more, but. Other than that. We loved it. Quinny Heck, do you want to drop a number? Ardella Quinny Nice. Ardella I’m a harsh marker, but what can I say? It’s interesting that you mentioned the animation, Jill, because one of the beautiful things that I’ve learned is that the hunt tricks characters our protagonists are animated in a very traditional way, which means that every second frame they move. Whereas our demon Boy band animated differently where they move every single frame and there are certain times at where it’s poignant in the movie where they swim. Speaker Which? Ardella Ohh and so there’s there’s lots of super cool things that happen behind the scenes that we don’t consciously recognise, but it’s doing stuff to our brains and I think it’s really, really cool. So yeah, I think the more that I learn about this movie and the work that’s gone in behind the scenes, the more I love it. And that’s why it’s really reaching those top numbers. Quinny Oh. Dion You gotta respect a bit of filmmaking. Quinny Yeah. Dion Bit of craft work in there. Ardella Exactly. Quinny And and that’s very much like the first spider verse. Yes, where like they were animating different characters on different frame rates and you know the the attention to detail. And one of the things that gets me about this is the. The absolute love for Korean culture, but also Korean mythology, and it’s also going to be very, very interesting down the track. Seeing people cosplay from it because already there have been people who have gone to do cosplays of the Soulja Boys and so forth and have had to. That that question of appropriation or appreciation. Is very difficult around certain parts of costumes because the hats are an actual part of a very specific part of Korean culture that you really can’t **** with. Yeah. So like the fact. Ardella Historical Korean culture, not even current really Korean culture as far as I’m aware as well. Quinny Yeah. Hmm. So yeah, whipping one up out of warbler is is kind of not. Not cool, not kosher. And that kind of. Ardella Derpy is my next cosplay. Yeah. Quinny Thing. And when we come back from the the and everything, I will talk about Derpy because that’s another piece of amazing Korean history and culture right there. My rating is 95. I ******* watched the **** out of it and love the **** out of it. The like the music aspect of it, I I’m not a big K pop fan or anything like that. I I don’t listen to a lot of that music, but I didn’t care because it was super catchy. The vocals were insane. I love that mix of of like the three different voices and the three different styles. Of the girls like that, you know, one will drop into really American style rap, but they’re all capable of rapping. They’ll all take, you know, high parts, low parts. But at the same time, then mix it with a bunch of really cool choreography and and martial arts. Mix in some extra mythology, add some cute characters. I love the fact that you know secondary characters are given a bit of love to like. The band’s manager is. Not a ********. You know how ******* lovely is it that that you know, you’re not just going? Yeah. The traditional ******** band manager? No, he ******* loves. Dion Them. Did you not learn anything from Jersey and the Pussycats? What the? ****. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Yeah, I I just, I mean, as I was watching, I just kept thinking, Oh my God, this is this is a thing for a generation of of girls to watch and. And relate to and want to be and emulate and I suddenly understood that whole thing that all the girls in primary school would go off and learn dances. And then to tie that whole thing that that you know, people want to do of of singing and dancing with, like, spiritual power and empowerment and protectiveness. I was just like, **** me. So yeah, I got a little love for it. I really don’t have much bad to say about it, which is, I mean, I don’t want to give it 100 because that would be ridiculous, but ****** really enjoyed. Dion It you can give it a. Speaker 13 100 and that’s just the surface story. Quinny I know we haven’t even talked about what it all means. Dion Can’t wait for you to review the stage musical 350,000 out of. Quinny Review it, I’m going. To direct the. *******. Dion Which would you like to go? Would you like to meet the? Boys or yeah. With that one, we see who, who we. Talking about here, who are the Sargent boys? Sounds weird? Speaker Yeah. Speaker 3 Look normal. Speaker 5 Ohh yeah. Speaker 6 Come on. Take your time. Yeah. Speaker 14 Just like. Speaker Yeah. Speaker 2 Ohh hot. Speaker 3 You guys are so gross. Speaker 6 No, yet you go hot. Then we’ll go. He. Dion Ohh that is just harsh. No helping hand there whatsoever. So the Sarja boys are a bit of * ****, really, aren’t they? They’re just *****. Hot *****. Speaker Yes. Jill Yeah, but they’re hot. They’re hot. Speaker 4 Hot *****. Dion Yeah. Yeah, Jesus. Jill I’m going to tell you like we went to smash. What was it like 3 weeks ago? The artist Alley was chocolate block of K pop demon hunters. Art anything? Right with that tiger on, it was sold. Quinny Oh. Dion Right. Jill Out. Yeah, right. Good. There were. There’s a scene in the film where the both of the bands are Hunter Eggs and the Sergeant Boys are doing a meet and greet with fans. Quinny Oh my God. So. Jill And Abby, the gentleman with the. Tabs instead of signing a piece of paper with his name, he runs like pencil against a piece of paper on his ABS, and that’s his signature. There were drawings of that in the artist Alley for sale. The insanity. Dion I love Jesus. Yeah. I mean, OK question here. I don’t understand why I have questions now and spoil the logo is up and we’ll talk about spoil everythings if you like. Yeah, it’s been a month. It’s been out for quite a long time. I get derpy the thing. Jill Of this movie. Speaker 14 Yes. Dion But what was with the strange Game of Thrones crossover with the Three Eyed Raven? Speaker Quinny Do you want the? Speaker 4 It’s not a Game of Thrones crossover deal on. Dion Everything’s a Game of Thrones crossover. Ardella It’s. Quinny Heck, do you wanna take it? Ardella Quinty no quinny you take this, you are so keen. Quinny No, I was so keen. But I I mean, I’m guessing we’ve probably watched the same explainer videos and stuff. Speaker 13 No, I I read I don’t. Watch. Quinny Ohh God, within you actually. Jill Jesus, she’s an intellectual. Speaker 13 Exactly. Where’s my glasses? Quinny Just need to take these things off and becomes derpy. The ******* yeah, well. Dion You’re on. You’re on. Jill Stick your tongue out. Dion New media now not only this traditional lofi media that you may try. Speaker 2 Oh. Quinny Yeah. So OK, it’s not a Raven, it’s a magpie. And in Korean culture, the A, this is a it’s a historical joke. So the, the, the, the tiger and the magpie is the punchline of a historical joke. That tigers were traditionally shown as being the representative of the upper class and of rich culture, and specifically the governing class, and the magpie was the symbol of the lower class, the worker. Pass whatever and the hat which I’ve got to remember the name of. Thank you. If somebody wants to look it up for me, that’d be great. The hat is essentially a symbol of power. And so there’s a joke, or there’s a moment in there where the sorry. Dion It’s called a gap. It’s called a get, yeah. Speaker 4 Yeah. Jill Yeah, ginu ginu. Quinny So. Jill Said he made it for the tiger. Quinny So yeah, that’s the joke is that it’s a symbol of power that was meant for the tiger, but the magpie keeps stealing it. Speaker Ah. Quinny And so it’s the it’s a symbol that the lower class will always get one up on the upper class because the upper class is ******* stupid and that’s why he’s derpy. And you’ll see in a lot of Korean art, tigers are always drawn slightly cross eyed or just a little bit dumb looking. Jill Quinny And it’s because essentially, they’re just going upper class. The stupid look at the smart magpie with three eyes, you can see everything. Dion So this is exactly like parasite. Ardella Yeah, that’s what we’re saying. Speaker 4 Yeah. Dion No, just that that character representation of the blue cat and the magpie is just parasite as a metaphor. Quinny Yeah. Jill Yeah. Yep, yeah. Quinny And and it makes that sequence where where Derpy comes out and knocks over the plant and then just can’t get it to stand up way too long. Like ohh you stupid. Speaker Yes. Thank you. Dion But it’s good to know, you know, like, I like those little trivia bits. It’s fun. It’s fun to. Ardella Learn. Feel like I I was so. Impressed that for the first time I think ever. Speaker Hmm. Ardella A Netflix trailer. Managed to intrigue and make me want to watch more and actually get me invested in the story without giving away the actual plot. Yeah, there is. There is a very surface level plot being shown out there and I think now that people are, you know, watching more of the clips on TikTok and Instagram and that sort of thing and watching even the golden video clip, they’ll, you might get spoiled. Quinny Hmm. Ardella Before watching the movie, if you’ve seen all of that, but for me my first tip popped off in the opening in. Quinny In the you’re missing how many sticks are you missing? Ardella Well, I have lost the second hit for me when the pattern reveal. Speaker 7 Hmm. Ardella Happened in the. Speaker Ah. Ardella There was. It is very rare that any movie, a movie directed for adults with high levels of intelligence, they rarely get me with the whoa. What happened there was seeing that coming. This movie did that, I gasped. At that reveal, there were. There was nothing in me that thought that that was coming and that is so rare these days. I am so impressed that this movie called K Pop Demon. And so kind of surface level, you know, just fun on top, managed to have this flip. It had this beautiful level of depth to it. I just really loved that so much. I would have enjoyed, I think, a movie where it was just a, you know, magical girl. Banned fighting demons. I would have enjoyed that anyway, but this went a step further. Speaker Hmm. Quinny So in when we’re talking about the patterns and we’re talking about that, that reveal and that question about Rumi. What are the? Different like so I think that there are so many different layers of what it could mean. And I think one of the things that’s really smart about the film is that. It. Doesn’t specifically say it means any one thing. But what? What did you guys? Ardella Because they’re they’re waiting for the sequel or the spin offs or. Jill Yeah. So we’re gonna get the story that gives you the back story about, like who roomie’s father was and what happened to her mother and the the what were they called the Sunshine Sisters or whatever. Quinny Yeah. Speaker Yeah. Jill The. Quinny Yeah. Jill Band. Was and then we also need to have Gino come back because that was unfair how he went. Out. I know it was a beautiful sacrifice, but no, I want Ginyu back. Ardella He’s now in the blade, though. If you if you watch the sequence, you can see his spirit get pulled into the blade, which is an actual thing in Korean. Quinny Oh no. Ardella Mythology. Spirit blades. I believe. I believe I’m not Korean. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Jill OK, well I love. I love me as sexy anthropomorphize spirit coming out. Of the sword. So I’ll take. Yeah. Speaker 3 And then the grade. Ardella Changes once his spirit is absorbed into it, so you can see the two different forms of the the blades are. Jill I need to ******* watch this movie again. Don’t. Ardella Very, very cool. Speaker 13 I let’s go right now. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Dion Let’s see. We’re doing a watch along right now. Speaker 4 It’s. Jill Now become a live stream. Quinny So damn, what was your you? You had some different takes on on what, some of that meaning may have? Been. Dion Which what do you mean the the meaning of which the whole? Quinny Thing of the past. Dion There’s a lot going on me was there? Did I say something that I’ve I’ve undoubtedly forgotten since yesterday? Quinny On. Yeah, well, quite possibly. So, I mean there there’s, there’s that whole thing of like being, you know, intergenerational trauma, like of this is the Korean trauma. Of what? Their history is the split of the country, North and South Korea, which you can read into that. You could also read into it an LGBT thing of this thing that you have to keep hidden about. Yourself. And whether or not she’s allowed to be, especially in K pop, the idea that is she allowed to be who she actually is. Because that is not appropriate like that whole thing of you wearing marks on your. That. You have to keep hidden. I think it has a lot of meaning for a lot of different people for probably a lot of different reasons. Speaker 1 MHM. Ardella Yes, I would agree. I would hesitate to say that this is implying that Ruby is LGBTQIA plus at all, but I have 100% think that people who are LGBTQ a. Quinny No, not necessarily. Ardella Us could find a lot of parallels there. Quinny Yeah, I think that that’s sort of like that X-Men kind of thing. It’s like, yeah, no, we’re not saying that these characters are gay or whatever, but they are a fantastic. Ardella Except the ones that. Quinny Are. Yeah. So my my best X-Men guy. Ardella I think it’s really interesting. We’re seeing a lot of this storyline coming out in a lot of Asian and Asian American stories over the last decade especially, I’ve noticed a a real through line in a lot of the media that I’ve seen, at least. Where these cultures seem to be very much from an outsider perspective. Very much about conforming and not rocking the boat and being being part of a whole community that works well together because everyone kind of assimilates and and doesn’t step outside of the mold or make anyone uncomfortable. And I think yeah, exactly. I think that there is a lot of media coming out these days. Jill Yeah, homogeneous. Ardella And it’s interesting, Jill, that you mentioned Everything Everywhere all at once earlier, because that’s definitely part of the story behind that movie and and a real message in that movie is. Is that we need to allow the newer generations to be a little bit more unique and individual and celebrate that as something that is wonderful and and adds colour to our cultures and our societies, rather than being something that we should squash. Or avoid and to me, that’s what the patterns were and that’s what you know, was a a real underlying message behind this story is it’s not about conforming, it’s about celebrating what’s unique and individual about each of us. Jill Yeah. Quinny Yeah, I I did just check and and the reason I brought it up is because of the writer did say that the the intent was that it was a. Bit like coming. Out to your parents? Ohh, so she was. She was. It was a very deliberate piece to say hey, it’s like that. She’s not saying that Remy is, you know. Dion So coming out. Ardella I mean, could be you go off in your head cannons out there. Dion To your friends. Also coming coming out to your friends who have literally been trained to murder. You. Speaker 13 Your your partner. Quinny Yeah. Dion For the whole thing. Speaker 4 Yes. Dion Look, I like the little bit of the sort of Buffy the Vampire Slayer chosen. Ones. You know, how do we do this? We just kind of go and kill these faithless demons which there are thousands and thousands and thousands of them, apart from the very special one. Quinny Yeah, very. Dion That ohh wait. Yes. Yes. So you know I got that sort of storyline. Ardella Although I do think that there is a pot, I mean obviously we see Janus. Progression where he was genuinely villainous. He was * ****. Wow, what * **** we learned. Dion Sure. What is it again with? Absolutely ancient men and young women. Jill That’s like type. Speaker 4 Being like can. Ardella You I I just want to be rich and wealthy at the expense of my family. What a ******* nightmare, human. But then. Speaker And. Ardella Obviously evolves and become someone who we can genuinely sympathise with, I think, but I feel like we also, especially in that scene, I think Jill, you mentioned the the signing scene, we see a lot of the other members of the Demon Boy Band of the Sargent Boys. Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. Ardella Have a little bit more personality and a little bit more empathy, I think, than I was expecting and I I would be interested to see that explored a bit more. As well, yeah. Speaker 1 Hmm. Quinny One thing I do love is also the the historical mythological context of it too, that the the idea of the the Singing priestess is is quite a a long history in Korean culture. So the moon or mudang not mudang. Are a an offshoot of of Korean shamanism who their their whole thing was, you know, singing to keep their people safe and, you know, reach out and and bridge the world between gods and humans and so forth. And you see that at the at the very start, like there’s the flashback to the original ones. They’re they’re all traditional like priestess outfits. But then the fact that they’re, you know, really latching into the the Korean singing group thing. You know that there was another group in the 50s and the 60s called the the Kim Sisters. Who group of three well known all around the world, appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show. Did like 22 shows over the years on Ed Sullivan. Like that kind of thing. We’re going. Yes, we’re gonna do it. I love the idea that we could have, you know, stories told in different time frames. Ardella Yeah. And before the Kim’s sisters, there was the Jair Gory sisters. I think it’s pronounced and they were also a three piece girl band who we assume is kind of being referenced in that introduction as well. Dion Can can we just make sure that we even if we go across different time periods they still kill demo? That’s right. Yes, as long as there’s still some demon hunting and killing going on in there. I’m fine. I’m on board with it. Ardella Like. Quinny 100%. Speaker 4 Absolutely. Ardella 100 percent, 100% yeah. I also need to mention I’m sure many of us already know this, but Saja as the name of the Saja boys also has multiple meanings. It means lion. Dion Yeah, yeah. Ardella But it is also a kind of slang term for the grim Reaper. So there’s that duality there. So that’s that’s why they have the lion like logo. That’s what they’re saying. That’s the that’s the loud part. They’re like, we’re the Lion Boys essentially, but. Speaker 2 Oh. Quinny I didn’t know. Dion That, and also dark and mysterious. Quinny And. Ardella It’s also. Through. Yeah, slang for the grim Reaper in South Korea. Quinny And I don’t think I would have understood or appreciated this film if I hadn’t for the past couple of years had an awful lot to do with idol culture like, yeah, but I I’ve learned a lot in the past few years of working for idol festivals and, you know. The whole idol scene and. And. Something that I find fascinating and is really like key to the film, but it’s sort of unless you’ve seen the crowds doing their thing in person. The relationship between crowd and band. Is incredibly intense. Like and the crowds at these events are not. Just, you know, observers, they’re part of the show and they see their role really importantly, you know, all of the glow glowing sticks that they’re holding up all of the colours that they choose to wear, the fact that they, you know, stand a particular singer or whatever and will then change the. Ardella They’re bias. Quinny Yeah, yeah. You know, they will do all these things and like, you’ll see them during songs. Like I watch them at smash people climbing up on each other’s shoulders just so that they can. Performatively go. You know, I’m not actually singing at you. I’m just showing you how much I appreciate what you’re doing. Is like if you don’t know about it, you’re gonna think it’s ******* weird as ****, which I did for a while, but then when you see it, you go ohh. OK, I get it. And now I watch this film and you realize why so much time is spent with the fandom as well, like. They they spend a lot of time, you know, looking at the the kinds of fans who have latched on to these people. Is it the the sex starved older ladies? Is it the preteen girls who are just utterly, you know, smitten? Is it the big boofy guys who will cry at the drop of a hat? You know, all of that is. Ardella I think it’s interesting, though, to suggest that it’s just a AK pop thing or a J pop thing or something like that where you have these biases when you think about, you know, kiss people would wear their specific band members makeup style to go to a kiss concert. It’s it’s a similar. Quinny Oh, not at all. Speaker 4 Yeah, it’s just all. Jill About finding community and the things that. You love, yeah. Quinny Yeah. Really. And. And it’s also like I remember I wanted to write a ******* paper on this at one point. It’s the the concept of avatar rism that you wear the thing that you want to take on the, the, the, the feeling of you know, so. Jill Dude, I’ve done it for 20 years doing cosplay. Speaker 13 Exactly. Hello cosplay? Yeah. Quinny And cosplay is cosplay is like the the the doing it out loud and doing it at the biggest possible way. But for other people it’s that whole thing of wearing your favorite band T-shirt or wearing a Superman T-shirt or wearing, you know something. It’s that thing of. Jill Yeah. Quinny This gives me all these feelings. And I want to then wear it so that I can try and, you know. Jill Yeah. Now, name five of their. Songs. Ardella Jesus. Speaker 4 Yeah. Ardella And when you bring that all together, it really is. Powerful and I. Quinny Hmm. Ardella Think that that’s what they’re they’re tapping into on both sides here where you know that it can be used for good or for evil. Quinny Yeah. And. And the idea that a golden home moon only comes when, like, everybody’s actually being true about who they are, you know, that’s a it’s a pretty powerful ******* feeling. Yeah. Speaker Beautiful. Dion Yeah, beautiful. Speaking of powerful feelings. What are we doing for the rest of? The month, I don’t know. You don’t. You don’t know. Even though you you know exactly what it is. We’ve got a few things. There’s a lot going on in the month of the Merry, Merry month of August. We’ve got lots of movies that are out there. Things like nobody too. Quinny I do have a do in front of. Dion And one that we’re gonna see tomorrow night, which is. Weapons. Quinny Yeah. Dion You need the weapon. Give me the yeah. OK. Ardella I saw an ad for weapon the other night which just said 100% on Rotten Tomatoes and it was a print ad and I was like that. That’s a that’s a strong choice. Dion Yeah. Speaker 1 Hmm. Jill From the team that brought us barbarian. Dion Yeah. Jill He ******* loves barbarian. Dion Yeah, that was. That was one that came out of left field w
Taron Egerton won the Golden Globe Award for Best Actor for his portrayal of Elton John in the movie RocketmanHe joined us alongside Director Nick Rowland The film is called “She Rides Shotgun”
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Dave can't make it this week, so we (Megan and Evan) fly duo. Megan kicks things off by reviewing Michael Shanks's horror film TOGETHER (2:31), starring real-life couple Dave Franco and Alison Brie. It doesn't conclude quite as effectively as she hoped, but it still features some gnarly body horror and has something powerful to say about codependency. Next, we both discuss Kelsey Taylor's drama TO KILL A WOLF (20:12), a compelling modern take on the Little Red Riding Hood tale, which we love for its excellent performances, textured characters, and beautiful cinematography that celebrates the Pacific Northwest. After that, we cover Nick Rowland's crime thriller, SHE RIDES SHOTGUN (45:57), which stars Taron Egerton as a live-wire ex-con who must train his daughter to defend herself against the Neo-Nazis trying to hunt them down. It's violent, it's intense, and it kept us on the edge of our seats until its explosive climax. Lastly, in this week's Patreon exclusive audio, we talk about Tarem Singh's 2006 storytelling epic, THE FALL, starring Lee Pace!
Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
Actor Taron Egerton & Director Nick Roland stopped by to chat about their new film "She Rides Shotgun" - out today!
Taron Egerton's career is changing with both the times but also his own aspirations as an actor. He comes back to the pod to chat about honoring his acting heroes in SMOKE, going indie with SHE RIDES SHOTGUN, and why playing Wolverine might not be for him. UPCOMING EVENTS! Ben Stiller & Seth Rogen LIVE in Los Angeles on August 15th! Get your tickets here Check out the Happy Sad Confused patreon here! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes, video versions of the podcast, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Welcome to The B-Side! Here we talk about movie stars, movie directors, and sometimes––sometimes––movie writers! Today, we speak with author and screenwriter Jordan Harper, whose novel She Rides Shotgun got made into a movie of the same name, directed by Nick Rowland and starring Taron Egerton and Ana Sophia Heger. The film is in theaters this Friday, August 1, 2025. We spoke with Harper about adapting his novel for the big screen, his reaction to watching the final cut of the film, and those superb lead performances from Egerton and Heger. There's mention of his other books The Last King of California and Everybody Knows, as well as B-Sides that reminded us of She Rides Shotgun, which include One False Move, Flesh & Bone, A Perfect World, and Lone Star. Harper mentions Freeway as well, which is a great call. Harper brings up his new novel due out next year: A Violent Masterpiece. There's also appreciation for Shogun Assassin (a direct inspiration for She Rides Shotgun) and a discussion of genre and genre tropes and why they are so effective when used well.
Welcome to The B-Side! Here we talk about movie stars, movie directors, and sometimes - sometimes - movie writers! Today, we speak with author and screenwriter Jordan Harper, whose novel She Rides Shotgun got made into a movie of the same name, directed by Nick Rowland and starring Taron Egerton and Ana Sophia Heger. The film is in theaters this Friday, August 1st, 2025. We spoke with Harper about adapting his novel for the big screen, his reaction to watching the final cut of the film, and those superb lead performances from Egerton and Heger. There's mention of his other books The Last King of California and Everybody Knows, as well as B-Sides that reminded us of She Rides Shotgun, which include One False Move, Flesh & Bone, A Perfect World, and Lone Star. Harper mentions Freeway as well, which is a great call. Harper brings up his new novel due out next year: A Violent Masterpiece. There's also appreciation for Shogun Assassin (a direct inspiration for She Rides Shotgun) and a discussion of genre and genre tropes and why they are so effective when used well. Be sure to give us a follow on social at @tfsbside.bsky.social. Also enter our giveaways, get access to our private Slack channel, and support new episodes by becoming a Patreon contributor.
I just may, whaddya say? Comic-Con came and went this year, and maybe because the MCU and DCU were so muted, but there were still some good announcements. Xbox says game pass revenue is up, so is it profitable? Wolfenstein is heading to TV, and EA says no to $80. Air Bud is returning and I have serious questions, South Park takes time in its return, Star Trek goes all in on Comic Con, plus reviews of Happy Gilmore 2 and Fantastic Four!
Fantastic Four: First Steps Is this, the 4th attempt at bringing the Marvel Universe‘s “First Family” to the big screen actually as fantastic as it purports to be? Well, we have finally settled on a look and feel that best suits the classic super hero squad: and it’s ‘60s Retro-futurism all the way for one and all!!! It’s a whole new universe of Marvel stories starring Omni-daddy Pedro Pascal, serving C&%t Vanessa Kirby, Joseph “i’m on fire!” Quinn and Ebon Moss Bacharach (or baccarat as Quinny thinks he’s called) as the truly Fantastic Four! In this film we kick of Marvel‘s Phase 6 and usher in a new style and direction of storytelling, but is it actually good? Listen in and find out! 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Make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss them! https://youtu.be/18QQWa5MEcs?si=ZuzrC0i80qHjiz4n https://youtu.be/cLFDV72pa-s?si=VHolgiDlJZWBk0I0 https://youtu.be/_rRoD28-WgU?si=nISYKo7MGY4MpUE9 https://youtu.be/WEhgwDqYqWM?si=Tx-FIPgv23qichZv ERRATA: It seems Quinny’s HERBIE history lesson was incorrect and entirely apocryphal… https://youtube.com/shorts/KHyTOUSk6Rw?si=FCmt1FKY-Grdhs7D WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK! Send in voicemails or emails with your opinions on this show (or any others) to info@theperiodictableofawesome.com Please make sure to join our social networks too! We’re on: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TPToA/ Twitter: www.twitter.com/TPToA Facebook: www.facebook.com/PeriodicTableOfAwesome Instagram: www.instagram.com/theperiodictableofawesome/ Full text transcript Dion Ohh hello and welcome to the pairing Table of Awesome. It is time for a foursome of a different kind on today. The Tuesday. What time? What time is it? Speaker 3 What time is it? Speaker 6 Blame on us? Yeah, it’s it’s. Speaker 3 Fun it’s it’s podcasting time. Dion Butter in time. Wait, that doesn’t quite work. I don’t know. And right now, Pete, which she was invisible. Yeah. Yeah, well done. Speaker 6 oh Speaker 3 Sorry. Quinny Very well done. I love the feeling now, really. She’s. Dion Hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Embrace hope. She’s yeah, probably. Still there. Can you hear? Jill Really gone. Just gone. Dion Us in the void. Peta I’m invisible. I’m not silent. Speaker Yeah. Yes. Dion That’s true. They didn’t use that enough in the film. I don’t think they’re just having Sue just kind of being like, what are you guys talking about and freaking people out because, you know, I do, if I were the Invisible Man. Jill Yeah, she’s not seen, not heard woman. Dion Yeah, not seen, not heard. Wow. Hello. Back after a week. Off. Off. Yeah, yeah. Small, small break. Quinny Wow. Hey, I said, everybody feeling enthused and like, upbeat and stuff. Jill It was nice. To have a little break to be honest. Dion Yeah, yeah, I hate those months with the five Tuesdays. What? What weirdness is that ********? And now? Ohh, it’s it’s gone. You’ve gone all glowy and. Peta Yeah, I’ve, I’ve. I’ve smudged the camera so. Quinny And ohh well. Yeah, I know. She’s she’s actually doing the exact effect from the movie where it’s just a little. Jill Yeah, yeah. The Vaseline lens. Yeah. Speaker 3 Bit of. Quinny Now, now pets. No. Dion Can I stretch my hand over here? Quinny Pun. Serve absolute can’t with your face while you. Jill Do that. Yeah, there it is. Dion There you go. Perfect. Speaker 3 And now I’m going to do some cooking, OK? Dion Ohh dear and you know what I hope for everyone. Hello to everyone in the chat mainly for. I hope you all got to do the home. Speaker Hey. Dion Work. Jill Yeah. Did everyone enjoy the movie? I. Dion This particular day. Quinny Mean I could. See it? Yeah, Tari looks like that. She hasn’t seen it yet. She’s saying that she that please be good. Ohh. Interesting. Speaker Oh. Speaker 6 Ohh. Dion Fascinating. What? Jill Yeah. Dion Look. Yeah, we Fantastic Four has been out since last Thursday. Officially, we saw it last week which? Was quite fun. Jill Yeah, there’s even some early screenings on Wednesday for the public. Dion Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s out. It’s part of Marvel’s Phase 266. Quinny Yep. First film of Save 6. First film of, say Phase 6. God, that’s. Speaker 6 Dion Why couldn’t have made it the first film of Phase 4? Quinny Because that was quite some time. Dion And then it. Would have been. Ago. Right. OK. Look, the fourth attempt at the Fantastic Fours and I I include in that the the 1994. 1. Which was never released except IS is is hovered around. Yes, there was a 1994 one. Jill That would make this the 5th 1 then. Dion Yeah. No, no, it’s it’s, it’s, I say this as in the fourth go at it because there were two with the same cast. So you have the, yeah. Speaker 6 Ohh OK. Dion What are you talking about? This is. Our fourth thing. We have had, yes, it’s the fourth thing, you know, Michael Chiklis did a great job getting covered in rubber. Quinny That is true, Yep. Peta Yeah. Dion You know, and then you know, we’re up to this one. Jill Can’t remember the other guy. Quinny That’s gonna get off in the life. And remember who played the thing in Fan 4? Stick. Ohh my. Dion God fan 4 stick. Jill I know. Quinny That was, that’s what it’s called. Jill Fan Fant Fant 4 stick. Quinny I don’t know, but I I just. Jill Yeah, I think that a was in the. Middle not at the start. Quinny Ohh OK, I just call it fan 4 stick because it’s it’s easier to say. Dion Ohh, that’s right, it’s Jamie Bell. Quinny Ohh God that’s. Dion Right, you remember. Speaker 2 Whoops. Quinny He was the young. Dion Billy Elliot. Speaker 3 Yes. Quinny And and the young, chipper guy out of of the first king or the the King Kong movie that Peter Jackson did. Dion And he was also tin tin. But that was who made. Quinny It so not really who you would think. Yeah, would fit in a giant thing. Jill Memorable. Dion That he was the. Thing, yes. Quinny And Karina makes a good point, a arresting piece to Julian McMahon, who was the 1st Doctor Doom actually. Sorry, 2nd Doctor Doom. Speaker Yeah. Yeah. Dion Yes, because there was a doom. Jill I did rewatch the 2005 version on the weekend just for a bit of nostalgia. Yeah, I like those trashy ones. They’re great. They’re so campy and stupid. Speaker Did you? Quinny What did you think of it? Speaker Yeah. Jill And I look back on them. And I’m like, wow, the simpler times where we did comic book films. And we really, really did make them comic bookie. Speaker Yeah, man. Yeah. Dion And finally. Jill Well, we weren’t going. For all of the realism and stuff. Quinny Yeah. And they didn’t have to fit in with some. Gigantic *******. Thing. Jill I will tell you practical effects. Thing I don’t know I like. Yeah, CGI 1 is like that, feels like. A cheap cop out. Quinny Right. OK. OK. Fine, no suit. Jill With balls on it and not put in. Any effort and? Just animate it. Quinny You know what? Dion Wait, do you mean wait? Peta The fine effort. Jill Hey, it’s a different kind of effort. I’m like, let’s get our hands dirty and make a ******* stinky suit out of foam expanding. Foam or something like that and. Of course, some lung disease. Let’s get into. Dion I’m I’m going to like, I’m just going to take it on part of the actors there. Sometimes I’m just going to be like, yeah, maybe they don’t. Jill It. Quinny This is Jeff. Dion Want that? Maybe they don’t want to spend 16 hours in a makeup chair to to to do. Yeah. Speaker 6 As a cosplayer, I I would agree, but I would also disagree because I think it would be fun to make it. Dion Sure. I mean ultimately it’ll be that great thing of like they make someone do that and then they just go oh. Quinny I’m. I’m just. Dion We’re just gonna CGI it. Quinny Well, The thing is, there was a there was a lot of the thing in this one that was actually practical. Like there’s quite believe it or not, there’s there’s shots that they hired a a pretty big wrestler to be the body for it. So on set. A lot of the time there was a practical suit, dude of roughly the right size. Is. Jill So we’re not talking about a guy that’s just standing in there in a green zentai. Quinny No, I mean when when they’re doing it with Evan Moss, Baccarat, then he was in the uh, whatever the **** he said. Backup, backup, backtrack. Dion Doctor rap. No. Baccarat. That’s a. Quinny Alright. Dion Game I know. Quinny Dion Know you’re in a casino in Monte. Carlo yes, guys. Quinny Anyway, when he was on set, yeah, they they had this entire certain stuff like that. But there were quite a lot of it that was shot any time they needed, like a wide shot and everything. They actually had a dude in a suit with the. Ohh head and everything. Cool. Alright. Yeah, I’ve I’ve seen the the pictures of that, but I’ve also in the chat just put a link to the 1994 one and the thing in that Jill, you would love that one because the the suit actually looks more like the comic book character than any of the others have. Jill I love the terrifying dead. Eyes. Speaker 3 I know. Dion I mean, it’s great. It’s yeah, it’s very thingy. Jill That’s. Yeah, that’s. Speaker 6 Look at that thingy over there. That thingy. Dion Yeah, that, that, that is definitely something I’d go. What is that thing? If I saw it in a in a thing? Jill With that young man with fake grey sideburns. Quinny I know, right? Dion Yeah. Hey guys. I’m trying hard here, Joe. What? Quinny Honestly, if you could find that film. Like this. This is I love this one because my my thing with Fantastic Four it it started with this film because I was one of those ******* nerds who heard that there was a film that got made and was never released. So I then went and hunted. Speaker For. Quinny It and I, you know, back in the days of VHS trading, got somebody to send me a *******. VHS of this film that had never been released, and I’ve watched it. It’s terrible, but it’s actually got a lot of, like, it’s trying really hard. Jill And. Nice. Quinny To do all of the things that are fantastic, four movie should do just with no budget. Hmm. So yeah, like it’s got Doctor Doom. It’s got the mole, man. It’s it’s got them all doing their powers. But like Reed, stretchy arms are like pool noodles with a with a *******. A glove on the end. Jill I mean that’s still image alone is giving vibes of like 70s Italian Spiderman. Dion Yes, got a bit of that. I mean, you’ve gotta. What’s what’s the what’s the the crossover slash league like the Marvel Group, you know, secret wars thing. It’s the 1989 Punisher. Dolph Lundgren. It’s the the Captain America film. It’s the Fantastic Four film. Quinny Hmm. Dion You know, it’s all of those ones Pre Marvel Universe. Mashed together. And you’re like, what is this strain? ******* place, but we don’t. Here, we’re in a different, strange place this time. We’re in much more budget, some bigger names and some. Quinny Yeah. Dion Finally, they sort of kind of got people who give a ****. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Dion About doing something fun. Quinny Yeah. Jill And that’s nice. Surprising what you’re going to accomplish when you put in some time and effort. Speaker Yeah, isn’t it? Dion Isn’t it’s kind of like oh. Quinny And when you? And when you’ve had three goes at it before and gotten it wrong three times. You kind of go. Well, **** it. We’re gonna hold off on this one because, I mean, Fantastic Four has always been seen as Marvel’s first family. Like, you know, they’re they’re one of the very earliest Marvel superhero groups. And you know, we’re what, 40, you know, 39 films in now something. Speaker 5 Sure. Dion More, I don’t know 112 where 112 films in now. That’s how many there are. I I won’t be fact checked. Quinny And we’ve, yeah, and now we’ve just introduced the very first Fantastic Four stuff. So yeah, it’s it’s an interesting one. I mean, obviously they were tied up in rights for. A long time. Dion But yeah, I mean. Look, it’s fine. We’re just going to ignore the rest of those fan 4 test. Stick, whatever it is. Quinny Can’t ignore them. Dion We have to stick, then forget stick. That’s what I. Yeah, we’re gonna ignore that. Quinny Not. The autistic fans. Dion We’re going to, we’re going to ignore that. Michael B Jordan, he’s also Johnny Storm. Yes, I know, right. No, he’s not Killmonger. He’s definitely Johnny storm. We’re also going to ignore that Captain America. Quinny Ohh yeah yeah, he was one of them. Speaker Yeah. Jill Was also Johnny Storm and Captain America. Dion Was also. Stone. Yeah. Yes, exactly. We’re going to ignore all of those things and focus very. Speaker Yeah. Dion Much in Comic Daddy and his family and Pedro Pascal’s not not happy just being space Daddy, Apocalypse Daddy and General General Daddy. Jill Yeah. Thanks, daddy. Dion Now he’s also comic Daddy. Quinny Hmm. Speaker Yeah. Dion Yeah, along with. Quinny Is there anything he can’t, daddy? Dion You know what? Hollywood will not let him. Not daddy something. He’s in there now forever. Like. Yeah, he will just. He will just keep doing it until everyone collectively gets sick of him. And I’ll be able to return to an anonymity. Quinny Hmm. I just realized it is the summer of Pedro, it’s. Jill Summer picture. Dion Yeah. Speaker Been just realized. Dion Multiple summers. Quinny It was another ******* attempted Fantastic Four. Dion Oh. Have you? Yes, grey tailed. Quinny Well, technically. There was another Reed Richards. Ohh John Krasinski but that. Jill Yes. Yeah, that’s right. Dion That’s in Multiverse of Madness, which is so the. But that’s not the Fantastic Four. Quinny Yes, from. Marvel Universe. He’s one of the breeds. Jill He was. He’s Mr. fantastic. Dion Is he though? Jill Yes. Quinny He’s Mr. spaghetti by the end of. It but anyway. Dion Yeah, like I mean, yeah, that’s just on film, but it it, it wasn’t the Fantastic Four and this is what we want to focus on. It’s about these group of people and. How they’re represented in cinema? Yeah. What you’re not. Jill Capturing in the audio is our eye rolls. Quinny Massive massive eye roll. Dion Come on. Quinny Beyond wiping away John Krasinski from the from the entire multiverse of of anything, and we’re all going. No, no, no. Jill Yeah, that’s because they don’t. Can’t do a convincing cosplay of John Krasinski’s Mr. Fantastic. You can only do the Pedro. Dion No, I cannot. Jill Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and if you squint, the Ian Crawford one. Speaker 6 You’re clean shaven for that one. Quinny I’ve just had an eye. Yeah, my eyes are not that ******* blind. Dion OK, then fine. I’ll go with this one if this. If he’s part of the Fantastic Four Canon, you need to cast the other three members of the Fantastic Four in those universes. Who is it going? Jill That’s true. OK. Oh my God. Yeah. Can we come back to this at the? Dion No immediate. OK. We’ll give you time. Time. Yeah, time. Jill End of the show. We’ll be here for 15. Dion Minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So if if if John Krasinski’s Mr. Fantastic and chat go and throw some something we. Quinny Man. Need to sleep? Yeah. Speaker 6 ******* Emily Blunt. I would go. Emily Blunt force. Jill Storm. Quinny **** yeah. Yep, Yep. You down to? Dion That yeah, Karina, just like gonna get to the. Synopsis yet guys. Speaker Yeah. Peta You know, keep getting pushed. Speaker Push. Speaker 6 Push by the chat. Let’s go. Speaker 2 Yeah, that’s a wow. Quinny I’m being bullied by the test. Peta This film about. Quinny What is this film about it? No, I’m not gonna. I’m not gonna do the synopsis now because I’ve been told. I have to. Jill No. Ohh yes. Speaker 6 Jesus. Dion Christ. Jill That sounds like me energy. Dion Peta Settling into that demand avoidance there. Dion Come on. Tony, have you got? Have you got some synopsis? Peta Yeah. Quinny For us it is. I have got a. Synopsis for everyone but Karina. Peta To be fair to Karina, it’s been 20 minutes. Jill Can you do it in a Brooklyn accent? OK. Speaker 3 Forced ohh. Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, the Fantastic Four must defend Earth from a ravenous space God called Galactus and his enigmatic herald the Silver Surfer. And guess what? It’s clubber and die this. Quinny Ohh, cool, that’s it. That’s the whole book. Was an opposite. Trust me, there was an even shorter one. Speaker Is that it? Speaker 6 Yeah. Wow. Dion I love sofas, yeah. Speaker 6 Silvers, soyfer yeah, soyfer. Dion Some some more continents and vowels in there that I remember from. Speaker 3 Hey, I’m going down the street and I’m going to start some some flights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dion Yeah, that’s about it. Quinny Hey, get that man some cookies. Thank you. I. Dion Would love some cookies. That’s kind of what the movie is about and I’m, I’m I’m with it like this isn’t one of those films that you went and saw and you’re like, oh, great, we get to have an origin story of how did they get their powers, how did. They do this like how do we go through that? They were like, no, you know what? Quinny Ohh thank God. Jill Yes, we just got a tidy. Little vignette, and that’s all we needed. Dion Yep. Quite a long vignette really explaining like how they fit into the world and how suddenly the the brokers of World Peace and everyone looks up to them and they’re the world’s family. Quinny Yep. Jill Yeah, I kind of love it. Dion I mean, OK. Jill They’re. They’re paragons. Quinny Yeah. And we, the the important thing to note is that we’re in a different world here we are in. We’re not in the regular Marvel Universe. We are in a weird kind of quasi 60s future pop, yeah, different reality. Speaker Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 It’s. Dion It’s 60s futurism, so it’s just it’s there’s a divergent. Speaker Hmm. Dion From our history to where it has ended up in this Earth history, and I’m I dig it, I dig the style, imagine in the 60s if four people got shot into space and came back and had all these powers and solved a bunch of problems. Speaker Hmm. Dion And a bunch of other things happen. That’s how that kind of goes. It’s like, yeah, well, you know. Quinny Yeah. And the difference. Speaker I mean. Quinny Not actually stated what year this is, is it? Dion No, no, it’s just the different earth. Quinny Yeah, right. Dion And what that is. But people don’t have. Jill Yeah, it could be current day 2. 616 Earth we don’t. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Jill Know that’s just what this earth. Dion Yeah. Looks like there’s big. There’s big kind of LED screens, but no cell phones. Speaker Slide. Peta Yep, well, it’s kind of like they’ve kind of gone. We don’t need to put energy into making TV screens flat. We’ll just have giant non flat TV screens and faster than light space travel. Yeah, yes. But we’re gonna do with that extra energy. Dion There’s there’s like. Quinny No. Dion You know. Yeah. Peta We don’t need to put energy into like inventing MP threes. We’ll just keep records. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And teleporting. Dion Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Peta Think of what we could have done as humanity. Quinny I didn’t know. Dion Exactly all of our computerisation goes on tape. Jill Yeah, I mean. Yeah, we invented cassettes and then CD’s and then digital format music. And now we’re back to ******* records again. Quinny So yeah, but they just didn’t bother leaving the the records. Yeah, because they realized it was the the superior format from the start, especially if you print them in. Dion Yes. Gold. And if you haven’t got a troop of players in your lounge room. You know, yeah. Eventually we’ll get to there, won’t we, like? Oh, this is my 9 musicians that follow me around and. Play music to me. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Yeah. I mean, yeah. Karina and Casper both kind of make the point. It’s very jetsons. Dion Yeah. And that’s kind of great because that’s very familiar to the people who knew fantastic for for when they were growing up based on the cartoon, which is the the sort of. Peta So jetsons. Dion The carry over of where people would sit from the Saturday morning kind of cartoon and. You know it it it sets the tone that everyone could easily get into and I went, I’m here. I immediately know what’s going on. It has a different Marvel logo, it has a different kind of a soundtrack. It’s setting itself in a in a particular period and I was like, I’ll go with this. This is totally different to every ******* thing else. This isn’t a dark and gritty reboot. This isn’t. Anything really to do with the rest of the Marvel Universe? Yeah, kinda. Which makes me happy. And I was like, I’ll go with this. I’m immediately just going to be like, all right, what do you got? Jill Yeah. I think the thing that’s so immersive about it is the visual language that they’ve lent into so strongly and so thoroughly like the the set design and production. All the set pieces, the costumes, everything like that was like. Beautiful, like there was such attention to detail and there was not like a wasted moment on screen. It was so interesting that we’re talking about like, how like futuristic retro it is but. Like the. Costuming wasn’t futuristic. That was still like grounded in 60s fashion. Speaker Hmm yeah. Dion I had a really good time just watching the sets and the costumes. I was like they have actually paid a lot of detail to the costuming, not only of the signature folk, but the people around them too. Looked sharp as ****, I gotta say. Quinny And. Jill Yeah, like the the space suits and their hero suits were were still like. Grounded within like that 60s, like retro futuristic style, but had like the the strong 60s fashion elements as well in terms of like the textures of the fabrics and things that they used but the the colour theory throughout was fantastic and yeah just the the visual language that they. Used in this film was just so Cohen. Peta It’s a joy for. The arts, hmm. Dion Joy for the eyes until we get to the failure of the film. Quinny Wow. Jesus. OK, so, so just a reminder folks, the deal also sat through Superman and huffed. Speaker Go further on. Dion I did. I did half. He did half I wanna also. Caveat that I did see Fantastic Four, but beforehand I had. Speaker 6 So. Dion To watch. Beforehand I had to win. The Avatar trailer 17 times. I don’t. I don’t know how to explain that in terms of everything else, but I had to sit through the Avatar trailer. Too many ******* times, and that may have influenced my decision. And how I enjoyed that film slightly too many times. Jill Anyway, yeah, it’s almost like they strapped you to that chair and made you watch them 17 times. Dion They kind of did. Yeah. You know, because you know, as we all know, in those kind of cinema things, the seats are gold. And if you leave one, you’re done. It’s going coming back but anyway. Speaker 3 Yeah. Dion OK, enough of that. Fantastic for what? What are your first four impressions? Quinny I just wanna know why you’re getting ready to throw it. Speaker 2 Hello. Quinny Under the bus. To you ohh. Speaker 2 No, no. Quinny Like there have been a couple of times that you’ve already kind of started. Coming out of. Swinging. I wanna know why the big. Speaker There is. Dion Rubber punches out. Well, first, I mean, we all hate John Krasinski. And. No, I’m just joking. That’s. Three just threw that out there for. Peta Come on for John Krasinski. And he’s not like. Jill He can’t even defend himself. Quinny He’s such a nice guy. Everybody talking. Dion About, I’m talking about how effusively I love the costuming, the design, the aesthetic, the way that it just kind of moves the story along really, really quickly. It throws in some amazing nods and references to the historical stuff, like there’s covers of famous Fantastic Four issues thrown in very quickly. I know you’ve got. Quinny Oh my God, that made me so happy. Dion Classic villains like Mole Man and the Red Ghost. Yeah. Ish red. Red ghost off. Speaker 3 Well, sort of. Dion Like all of that stuff is kind of great. Herbie is amazing. The fantastic car, which I think often gets ignored. Quinny Yeah. Jill Uh-huh. Dion In, in a lot of, this is part of the fun about the Fantastic Four is all of the bits and pieces that Reed comes up with. That’s all kind of themed Herbie, as I said. Yeah. And he was. Quinny Great. OK. Does everybody know the history of why Herbie exists? Jill No. Quinny OK, this is my my favorite stupid piece of ******* history. So in the 60s, when the Fantastic Four was being turned into a cartoon, they went OK we’re going to do the Fantastic Four and the standards people of America went hang on. One of the characters is on fire. Speaker Tell. Quinny We can’t have a children’s TV show where the children want to emulate the heroes and have a character be on fire. Why not so? In the 60s cartoon of Fantastic Four. Johnny Storm is removed entirely and is replaced by Herbie. This is where Herbie came from. Wow. Speaker Oh. Yeah. Quinny So the fact that, like the fact that he’s in the movie is ******* hilarious. But his history is even better. Jill That’s wild. Quinny And I’m pretty sure he actually talked in the animated series, but yeah, and didn’t just make bleeps and. Speaker 6 Wheels. I like the Droid vibe it was. Dion Didn’t. Yeah, it didn’t sound like. Yeah, it didn’t sound like a 60s frickin B. Speaker Yeah. Dion I just. I just remembered something. Thing when we get this Sue storm into the proper Marvel Universe, she’s going to have to come up against Namor, yes. Quinny Hmm. Dion And and that’s a lot of that’s a that’s a whole. Jean Grey, Wolverine, Cyclops thing going to happen right there anyway. That’s right. Jill That’s something we can work on. Dion Later. Yeah, there’s a lot of smart in that one anyway, yeah. Speaker Yes. Quinny And apparently on on the set all the time, Vanessa Kirby is like, So what? What’s going on with Namal? Pedro’s like, for ***** sake, right? Dion Here she knows what’s going on. She gets all the cast members. Quinny Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 Yeah. Dion Yeah. Look, I. Had a great time with it, like, you know, really good introductions to quick introductions to characters. Everyone got a little bit of ability to show who they were as characters very rapidly. Like, you didn’t have to pay to. Much there, but I also really appreciated how much they felt like a family and they felt caring and it was showing them in a particular way, which it wasn’t like, oh, these are conflicted people. They don’t know how to, you know, where’s the drama? I mean, the drama isn’t in the family. The drama is external forces. And I think they got that really well because there was a really cool vibe to sort of be like ohh this is, this is cool kind of family like like I I would take children to watch it and be like see, this is how you’re nice to each other. You don’t have to hit each other. You know. Quinny Don’t set each other on fire. Dion Don’t set each other on fire. Try stop working so hard. Quinny Pete Jew talk to me. Jill Oh my God. Ohh feels like so long ago but it was only Friday. Dion Four days ago that you saw it. Jill Ohh my goodness, I really liked the film. I had a good time. I saw it well. I mean, all the things that I said about the costume and set design and all that stuff was just fabulous. I thought like the story pacing was good. Like they they got to the point and they, you know they executed ABC. You know, here’s what’s happening. Here’s our problem. And here’s how we overcome. It, like they did that. UM. I thought the action bats were good. But again, I’m just not getting my **** blown off. Guys. The jet film. We’re back to the **** rating scale. OK0 **** means it was ******* amazing because they blew them both off, but two **** is bad because it doesn’t mean that I didn’t like the movie. Quinny Back to. Rating system. Jill It just didn’t **** **. Way and it made me start to think that there was something wrong with me. Like am I not finding enjoyment out of these movies anymore? Like is it becoming passe? Is it like over saturation? Like what’s the issue? I think what the issue is is that too many movies. Are just safe. They’re in a safe zone. They do what they do on the box and they do no more than that. Speaker Hmm. Jill I’m not getting any like thrill, danger, excitement from these movies anymore. It feels really middle of the road and pedestrian and that’s not to say that Fantastic Four was a bad movie. It was a good movie because it did its job, but it didn’t go above and beyond. And become an exceptional film. And I just, I feel that way about Superman as well. That was not exceptional to me, and it just kind of feels like every time we go and see a big blockbuster, I come out like feeling it was it was middling level. Speaker Yes. Quinny I agree, but I want to keep Pete’s. Take on it? Sure. Peta I think it’s very well constructed, beautifully made. Film, I mean, we’ve talked about the production design and the look of it already, which is great. You know, we’ve talked about the the structure which is logical and probably better constructed than Superman. And and I do think it’s funny that I’ve kind of liked the exposition. Free tool here that I hated so much and electric state, same tool, different vibe. It’s it’s easy to get into and you want it to be because there are some plot points that that, that require a very high level of suspension of disbelief. Even for a comic book movie, you know, usually I I I I try to give the the Budweiser and the ********* like. A bit of a break in in certain genres, but I struggled a bit with a couple of the plot points that very much drove some parts of the story. Because it was a bit wibbly wobbly. Sciency want see? Yes. Yeah, like, don’t. Jill Get into the proton stream, but get into the proton stream, yeah. Dion Yeah, you’re Superman. Peta That was and, and I think the issue is I I I get I I have a tendency to get a little bit distracted if I can’t. If that suspension of disbelief gets interrupted, and I think that these particular plot points were distracting enough that even though I was enjoying the film, I still. Got kind of. Kicked out of this story a. Little bit by thinking? Yeah, but Nah. Quinny Are these things that need to be talked about in spoilery territory or? Peta Ohh, everything needs to be talked about in spoiler territory. It’s it’s just and if they weren’t plotted drivers. Dion OK, alright, fair enough. Peta It would have felt a little bit different as well, but it it did kind of feel like as well constructed and entertaining and beautiful as the film is. I kind of agree with Jill that you kind of I didn’t personally come out of the end of it going like. **** yeah. Amazing superhero film. It was just kind of like, ohh, that was like really well constructed and good looking and entertaining. And yeah, Pedro. Quinny I I have, I agree very much with with everything you guys have said. My biggest problem with it is that. The movie didn’t have its next gear up like all the way through it puddled along at an enjoyable kind of pace. It was doing what was needed, you know, things were kind of getting, you know, you had your action beats and stuff like that. But then when you get to your climax. It doesn’t have the next gear, it can’t shift it back a cog. And really. Go ****. Let’s go. It didn’t have that it, you know, the the climax I kind of was like and oh, OK, right. We’re done. ****. OK. Huh. And that’s. Kind of implementing of the whole film that it’s really well made as as we’ve all said, well made, well shot, lovely costumes, lovely everything. Jill Great performances, everybody was on their a game. Quinny But nothing that made me go ****. That was a moment. Like, you know, there was nothing. There was no moment like. Speaker Yeah. Quinny The thors hammer. With that, America, there was no kind of really emotional beat of. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Vision saying you know that love is just pain. You know, whatever. I can’t even remember the quote. But you know those those those really like deep seated moments that make you go ohh. That got me right in the heart. Speaker Hmm. Peta Which Thunderbolts did for me, and that, you know, I. I guess if if if you’re going to hold it up against superhero films we’ve seen this year from a. Speaker Hmm. Peta Is it a good movie? Speaker Hmm. Peta Mm-hmm. You know, well-rounded perspective, I would still put Thunderbolts ahead of this, regardless of how beautifully. Thought out the world was. Quinny Yeah, like there, there were lovely moments and their lovely ideas. I love the idea of the whole world pulling together to go **** we’ve got. Eight months to build something or, you know, and we’re all going to pull in this together and we’re all going to come together over something. It’s a great concept, but it just never felt like it had those that, that personal danger of what we saw in Thunderbolt and. A lot of people who are doing the, which one did you like more, Superman or or fantastic? 4. I personally thought the Superman took more risks. You know, it was weirder. It was. Peta Well, it was more. It was more current in in its messaging and the. The risks that it. Was taking in that messaging as well, and I think also you kind of. Dion Hmm. Peta This is a bit of an imbalance, I suppose in the rate that one escalates because you can kind of attempt to escalate the stakes to the highest possible point and the escalate them so high that the audience cannot believe. That. That jeopardy is going to come to pass in that context, which actually, which actually kind of destroys that moment, is kind of gotta be like a believable, worst case scenario that they’re facing. Not like, well, of course, they’re trying to find a way to avert that. There’s gonna be a little part of you that’s like. Quinny Hmm. Peta Ohh, they might fail, which I kind. Speaker Hmm. Peta Of felt in this. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like. Peta Otherwise, you don’t feel the jeopardy, you know, the way that you should. Speaker Hmm. Quinny Yeah, and and I don’t know, I feel like something like Superman has has more of a an alter kind of vision behind it. Like, you know, that felt like James Gunn saying something and his whole thing about found family and his whole thing about being outsiders and, you know, he. He has a particular thumbprint that is all over that. This one I couldn’t tell you. A thumbprint it was. Peta Which is funny because it is tonally and structurally much more consistent. Quinny Absolutely. Jill Yeah, it’s a. Package. Yeah, it has an aesthetic and it, you know, executes that, but yeah. Quinny Yeah. And and like. Jill There’s there’s special sauce. Quinny Yeah. And and I don’t. Know what it is because. I was wanting to get excited. I was super wanting to get excited and it just never quite hit me. And even when big things happened, I was like. Jill Karina made a good point that she thought we were going to see them fail. Based on what we saw in the post credit scene of Thunderbolts and I want to make a point where I kind of wish that that scene never existed because it coloured my expectations. Speaker Hmm. Jill This film I was going in. Quinny Yes, I’m. Peta I forget what that scene. Jill Was ohh that’s actually it was it was there. There was like ohh we can. We’re picking up something on our radar and then they zoom into space and they see the Fantastic Four ships flying through space and that bit. Yeah. Yeah. So I had a different expectation of what I was expecting in this film. And so I’m like. Speaker 6 It’s just. Dion Just a a rocket ship in the sky. Kind of, or if it is, we don’t know. Jill Just on the edge of my seat the whole time, thinking. Well, how are they gonna get to our earth? When are we gonna see that? When are we gonna see that? And. And I’m like, so I wasn’t in the moment with everything else that was happening because I was anticipating something else to. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. And and maybe that’s that, that other cog that. Speaker Happen. Quinny I was expecting. Maybe that’s the the the next thing up is that you know, they do like, fail or they do something that that then took it to a different level. Speaker Yeah. Jill That causes them to and then this is how we get to this moment. But like now that we’re not going to have The Avengers doomsday film until another 18 months. Quinny Jill I’m like, wow, how are they going to get our butts in the seats for that one? Quinny Yeah. Jill Because after watching this movie, I’m like. Ah, I don’t really know where we’re going. Quinny Neller. Peta At the end, do you feel safe now with your opinion to share? Dion I mean, my opinion is based on Fantastic Four and how I enjoyed this movie or didn’t. Quinny Which is a really difficult thing to do to to take the movie entirely on its own. Yeah, been its own value and. Speaker 2 What? Quinny So aside from my expectation, aside from the other movie I watched a week and a half before, yeah, aside from. Dion Yeah. Quinny All of that, yeah. Dion Look there. This is the thing. Like I I really like to to throw this through. I really enjoyed Thunderbolts because it broke expectations that I had. I was there for it to say, what are you gonna do with this? And I was. Like wow, that is a great movie. I had certain expectations about Superman or I was wondering what was going to go, and I felt it wasn’t as good as I thought. It’s going. And I went to Fantastic Four. Saying how is this going to go? And I thought, yeah, I had a little bit of the same thing the the ending. Thing towards the end and some of the reasoning and stuff I was a bit like oh, this doesn’t make sense and I don’t understand where it does or doesn’t fit and I feel like they’re going to have to for some reason do another one in that universe for some reason. And I’m just a bit confused. I feel like it just kind of didn’t. You’re right, had that. Where’s that gear? Where’s the gear? Range. Where does it go up? Where do the stakes get bigger? Where does it become really important? But really I liked it because it. Was you can see across the entire movie from start to finish. It was a love letter to the time of the original Fantastic Four. Like all of the Kirby, all of the weird stories are just written into it. So it is made with a lot of reverence and a lot of love. And I really liked that because there was good messaging that was in there. Speaker Hmm. Dion The execution or some of the reasoning is just I don’t know how this fits. In the rest, like I love that it’s an outsider film, but I also don’t then. But what’s are we are we going to follow these people? Is that the point or is it just having a second one? Like I don’t. Know like it’s another Fantastic Four is like. Quinny Yeah. Dion Will we see him? Jill Yeah. Are we making this movie just to make a sequel? Just so we can make? Money. Quinny Yeah. Well, or are we making this one just because we needed to have a really good bad guy for the MCU. We’ve already announced who that bad guy. So we really had to have this film before doomsday could happen. Jill Yeah. There’s a lot of very upset people in. Our screening at the end of this movie. Quinny Yeah, yeah, there was. Dion Yeah, Speaking of bad guys, how do we feel about the villain aspects of this one? Speaker Hmm. Jill I was curious to how I would ever see Galactus executed on film, and I think it. Up to a point, it was well done. Dion Is it? Is it better than the giant cloud? Speaker 6 Ohh yeah, we don’t need. Dion So the. Jill Some amorphous cloud like I want to see an actual Galactus and like how? Dion So. Jill Do you do? That I mean, especially after we had the Eternals where, you know, we have things God like beings in space, it’s like, OK, well now how do we make a Galactus? Speaker Hmm. Jill That was really cool, but then there was a moment where I thought it was. Not cool. Maybe I’ll talk about that in sport. Dion How? How did you feel about Charlotte Owl? Jill I thought it was sick. I’m like, yeah, let’s go back to the original Silver Surfer. Yeah. People will be surprised to know the original Silver Surfer was not a dude. Quinny I I knew that Michelle label was an alternate, but I didn’t realize that. Jill I think the original Silver Surfer was a woman, and then it was her lover that begged Galactus to trade places with her. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Entry. Dion Interesting, yeah. Jill And disappointed we didn’t get the what if Aunt May was the Herald for Galactus and we didn’t get the golden oldie. Dion What are you talking about? Marisa? To me, isn’t that old? Quinny I I think. Speaker 3 No. Quinny I think there were there were sequences in there watching the the Silver Surfer surfing through. Speaker Ohh. Quinny Like Kirby Crackle, ******* cosmic power surfing through black holes where I was like, **** yeah, this is cool. You know, surfing around curving laser beams and ****. I was like. Dion Well, grab. Yeah. Speaker 3 Yes. Dion ******* hell yeah, that’s that’s the weird success stuff. That was the bitter. Speaker Hmm. Dion Was like, oh, this is great. Like, how do you put the Silver Surfer in? Why does it doesn’t even make sense. And it’s like, yeah, it does. If you lean into that. Crazy kind of 60s vibe that it originally was about. It’s like, yeah, I’m just gonna surf, like, through cosmic waves, man, it’s. Like. Cool. That’s fun. Yeah, it helps if you take LSD. Quinny Hmm. Speaker Yeah. Dion You know. Quinny Like there was something so ******* cool with all of that visual stuff. Yeah, that up until now, we’ve never really gotten because the only other time we’re seeing the Silver Surfer, he was on Earth, so it didn’t have that real cosmic kind of. Dion Maybe. He was the T1000 man. Jill Thing, yeah. Speaker Hmm. Dion He just kind. Of morphed around as needed for the plot. Quinny Your thoughts on on the Silver Surfer? Peta Neutral. Cool. I I don’t have a lot of feelings about the Silver Surfer as a character, but I thought she was. I thought it it was cool execution. Dion Yeah. Quinny Hmm. Yeah, look cool. And I like the the human eyes too. I thought that was kind of cool. Yeah, cause you I feel like you still need something to latch onto for a motion, yeah. Speaker Mm-hmm. Quinny I thought that was smart. Speaker And. Look, there’s look. Dion There’s lots of fun stuff in there. Standouts for me. I I I need to say I really annoyed that they didn’t rename it the fantastic six because to be honest, there are 6 characters in this movie. By the end of it, you’re watching it like there’s not just four, there’s more. Who you’re following through with, which was a bit of a surprise because I was like, OK, right. You’re just going to lean very heavily into the entire thing. Sure. I really. Kirby, I love that they went into galactic space because that’s kind of that’s that kind of that’s really fun. Like Reed Richards is that kind of character who, you know, is your prototypical 50s, you know, American Americanized painting, you know, of, like, it’s a pipe and slippers and, you know. Dad’s home. Jill Yeah. The Norman Rockwell. Yes. Please looking forward. Dion Yeah, absolutely. 100% The Rockwell and it it. But presented in that very conservative way, but he’s not a conservative. Like you know, it’s kind of like I’m just going to learn how to fold matter and bend this, and then we’re going to space. All right, everyone, safety third. Let’s go. That’s kind of Reed riches. Like he built a thing called the Ultimate Nullifier. And it kills anything in the known Marvel Universe. And then he’s just like ohh someone. Quinny He’s. Dion Like. Speaker Like. Dion ******** Reed, you know like. Quinny One thing you you said to me afterwards too. Jill Yeah, I mean. He just casually solved teleportation in this. Dion Yeah, yeah. Jill Film or whatever. Quinny Whatever. Whatever one thing you said to me too, and I agreed like they’ve always struggled to get Reed Richards powers looking good on screen. Like it’s very hard to do stretchy guy without it looking dumb, but one of the things that is kind of sad is that in the. Dion Yes. Quinny The comics and everything. Quite often you’ll see him, and that stretchiness of his body is a. Is. A all about echoing who he’s mentally. Yeah. So his arms are over here. You know, riding on the blackboard and his other arms over here, smoking a pipe and his head is, you know, stretched out over here, looking at the, you know, out the window or something like that. And there wasn’t much of that. It was very much like, this is traditionally handsome Pedro. Peta Yeah. Jill It’s it’s tiny. Yeah, it’s a tiny bit like he was doing. A little bit of the blackboard. Stuff and the catching things, but. Speaker 6 Yeah, I don’t. Jill I don’t think we really got to see him actually use his powers much in the film as a whole. Quinny Nope. Nope. Dion It’s very, very expensive to animate Pedro Pascal. Peta It’s it’s a dump power. Speaker 3 Pete. Pete, in there, it’s true. Jill I mean, it might be a time you. Would change your mind. Speaker Yeah. Speaker 3 Blubbering time, no. Quinny Should we rate it because we are, we’re going on a. Peta Yes, yes. Quinny Long time. Ohh good. Jill Oh my goodness. I don’t know. I’m gonna pick a number. Dion How many tips off Jim? Speaker 6 Yeah, the tip scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jill Yeah. The two tip film, but. Quinny I mean, I’m gonna. I will change the rating system if I have to, but it’s gonna really. Dion I had some I had some issues with it, but I did enjoy. I had a fun time. I’m gonna give it a 75. No 70. I’m gonna go 70. Sorry. I’m. I’m back down a little bit mainly because I really loved. Quinny On the website. Dion The scenic I love the the the characters together. They didn’t quite mesh as much and I felt like some of them were lost like I think Ben Grimm’s the thing. Speaker 6 Hmm. Dion Totally kind of lost in the hole as much to do. No, I I didn’t get enough of that thing because one of the most important things I know about Ben Grimace, he’s the real heart of the team. And while that was great, like I loved, you know, uncles, you’ve got uncles going on there. I loved it. You know, Johnny and and Ben are totally down for, you know, being uncles. I just thought he got a little bit lost and I have big issues with some of the purple headed warrior of the lactose, which I’ll talk about in spoilers, but yeah, overall fun time. Not a long time. Quinny Fair enough, Pete. Number. Peta I’m going to say I’m going to say I’m going to say 76 because I do think that it was. Really well put together but. The the I mean I’ll have some stuff to say when we spoil some things. Yeah, I’ll try to keep it brief. Actually, there was one point I think I said to you guys that I’d nearly walked out of there with more tips. Than I started with. Quinny I’m still wanting to know how that works. Peta Luckily, luckily I I didn’t have to go full rage out on it. Quinny So I’m very impressed. Peta Umm. But yeah, it’s just those kinds of like those those plot points that that just didn’t quite work for me were just a little bit kind of too conveniently driving the plot. And I didn’t quite buy even in the world of the story, that really kind of helped me back from from. Losing any tips at all? Quinny So so number of tips is 2. Hmm but. Peta Ohh, also the young Kelly’s Uncanny Valley baby was distressed. Quinny Though apparently that they had a live baby on set 99% of the time. Peta In some shots, I was gonna say you, but you can tell the. Shots that aren’t, yeah. Dion Yeah, yeah. Babies don’t look like babies on screen. You gotta pay. They yeah. Peta I mean, either it was a fully uncanny valley baby or they were doing something to kind of make the baby look like it was looking, but there was something. Yeah. And whenever whenever Ben Grimm’s holding the baby, it’s like. That ain’t no real. Jill Baby, what number did you give it, Pete, 7676. Dion Yeah, we all know. Quinny And Dion, still at 70, isn’t. Dion He. Yes, I’m still there. Quinny Yeah, Dan, how many tips have you got left by? Dion The way? Yeah, just one tip. Quinny Wanted. Jill Only go off 1. Dion I only want it. Yeah, I mean, well. I mean, I don’t know. It’s moved. Maybe the **** moved like it. It’s not in the same place it started out, but it hasn’t gone completely off. It’s around the side visiting the armpit. Jill You can’t. But I gave Superman. Quinny I can probably look it up if you want. Jill Yeah. Peta See, I just kind of take it on a mood basis. It’s on a day by day basis. Dion Briefly. Quinny Hmm. Dion Phil was right. I mean, I think. One of the telling things long rated. Peta Never compare my ratings for one movie to another movie. Quinny Superman 65. Speaker Oh. Dion While while Jill is thinking, I mean it’s fair enough. Remember, she only saw it like 4 days ago and it feels like. Jill OK, here’s the weird thing though. Like after I watched Superman, I kind of wanted to see it again, but I don’t know if that was to try and enjoy it more or like to get the things that I didn’t really get about it. But this one I’m not really like in a rush to go back. To the movie for it. Quinny Hmm. Jill But. I did like it more than Superman. Then. I think I’m going to give it. 69. Speaker 3 Nice. Dion Nice. Jill It was just a nice movie. Quinny Yeah, 69 and still 2 tips. Peta Yeah. Dion Quinny, what have you. Quinny Yeah. Got. I’m very similar to you know, I’m I’m probably I’m probably more in line with the pizza like. Yeah, 70. I’m going to go 77. I don’t know why. Yeah. Actually. Peta Just feels like a 77. Speaker Vibe. Quinny Like I I was a bit more warm on Superman whereas this. Like it’s it’s a perfectly fun, pleasant film. Like there’s nothing wrong with it, but it also just to me, felt like it. Was. Didn’t have much, particularly to say. Other than you know, wouldn’t it be nice if we could all work together and yeah. But also, maybe that’s what we needed at the moment is something that wasn’t too dangerous or whatever and. I don’t know. Yeah, it’s it’s 77 for me, but I just find it so. Dion Weird. We’ve, we’ve, we’ve, we’ve focused a lot on the non spoilery side and we’re running rapidly running out of time. So let’s go to the dinner clip to find out why they’re all such a nice blending together, then come back and see how much we. Can jam pack into spoil it section? Peta Leave if you haven’t seen it, because I’m going to spoil the very, very, very end of the film. Speaker Dion Pete is thrown down. Here you go, alright? Speaker 5 What are you doing? You mean what am? I. Doing and then you’re gonna ruin your appetite. I’m hungry, but never late for Sunday dinner. Should we wait? Speaker I guess you’re late. What I what do you? Speaker 5 Mean. What do you mean? What do I mean? Speaker You’re late for dinner. Ohh yes we are. We’re late for. By single minute. Speaker 5 Dinner. Yes, we were just just had to. Speaker Some aloe iodine on my shoulder. We got. Do his shoulder and. Speaker 5 Why is that breakfast cereal in the dinner table? Why are you being? Speaker Weird. Not not being. Acting. Weird. Well, I’m doing that weird thing with your face, so. Oh, we don’t know what you’re talking about. Speaker 5 Are you pregnant? Speaker Jimmy at the pregnant. Speaker 5 Yes, yes. Speaker You know, I know he just cannot. Speaker 1 That have you looked at your husband’s face? Speaker Keep his secret. Speaker 5 What, really, yeah. Speaker 2 What you are going to be the best mom? Oh, my God. Speaker And you are going. To be the best dad. Just kidding. You are out of your depth, but we. We’re going to be the best uncles ever. OK, we should eat. Dion Oh, there you go. Yes, that is exactly the kind of thing that we loved about the film. It’s really nice. Spoiler logos up, Pete. Destroy away. Oh, wait. Sorry. She has been there at the beginning. She will be there at the end. We here. Peter. Quinny ETA. Peta It’s not even my biggest complaint. It’s just that there was a moment at the end where I was like, I am going to have to have another full on rant about killing off female characters via self sacrifice and doing it to two female characters in one scene. UM. Quinny Thank God. Peta They recovered. They did recover. They recovered from it a bit and it didn’t really feel like it wasn’t going to recover. But for a moment there I was like, oh, oh, we are going to throw down. Jill I don’t believe you didn’t realise the magic baby was gonna save the day. Speaker 3 Sacrifice. Peta I did. It did, but there was a part of me that was kind of like you better ******* not. Dion Yeah, yeah, there was a little bit of that was it? It’s like, don’t you ******* dare? Jesus Christ, he’s not a. Defibrillator. He’s a baby. Jill I mean, you don’t have a. Magic mcguffin. The whole time and then not? Yeah. Speaker 3 Yeah. Dion True, although, but as as we all. Peta My biggest my my bigger complaints. Dion Know Franklin Richards. The monster. Peta My bigger complaints were were the iffy plot points like I’m like, correct me. I’m not a linguist, but I’m pretty sure you cannot translate an entire language with three words like I don’t. I don’t know that that’s possible. The Rosetta Stone had more than than than 3 words. Speaker 3 Yeah. Hmm. Dion Now. Peta I I don’t see how I don’t see how. Dion Important to understand that this is in the Universe 8 to 8 where things can exist a little differently and they are not this bog standard and it was one of those. Peta Oh. Speaker 6 But it’s it’s. Jill Things are like super. Peta It’s not the kind of plot point that you can explain away in your brain with that kind of reasoning like it’s not, but. Dion It has to be because that’s why I was. I was ******** about it and I yelled at Quinney until it came up to the thing. It’s like, but it’s not the real Galactus. And I’m like. Oh yeah, **** everything in this movie is not the real one from our universe. What? I’m getting angry at can easily be retconned by an executive who doesn’t like the feedback form. Speaker Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Jill But this is also a universe where Reed is a super genius that can solve teleportation and like, move a planet. That’s. Speaker Hmm. Peta It just like the jump between ohh, I’ve managed to do it to an egg. Jill Come on. Peta Let’s do it to a planet. Nothing will go wrong. I actually, I almost thought that, like, that’s where it was gonna get interesting. Like, that was gonna be this universe is snap moment when they, like, accidentally. Left half the people behind or something. Quinny That that’s what I that’s. What I was kinda hoping for like. Jill Yeah, there weren’t really many stakes. Quinny No, I ******* love the idea of them actually going *******. We’re gonna teleport the whole planet and. Dion And ******* it. Quinny Up what? Could something goes wrong like they they go to the wrong place or they find themselves in the ******* negative zone. Jill Like that ******* DC convergence where the two planets had to merge together. Peta Or and that’s the thing. Dion They do. How did they do faster than life travel, but. Not work out how radar. Exists stop the fact that Silver Surfer was coming to blow up all of their teleportation machines that that shaped. Quinny Me. She’s very fast. Peta And in your hand it just kind of looked like a regular size spaceship. I don’t know why they couldn’t have just muted it or something like it’s like felt like a lot of like ohh The thing is coming very slowly. This is the only thing we can think of. Dion That was my big ***** point that I will get my big boy britches on and have a whinge about. Galactus’s ******* world eating ship is just a giant space grinder and. And I didn’t like that because if you’re gonna go to, like the extent that they went to, which was really curvy, whole super 60s kind of thing. Speaker Right. Dion Make the spaceship ******* weird. Make it the giant machines that don’t. You don’t understand the purpose of what they do like. Have something that’s in there. Speaker 3 Hmm. Jill Yeah. What happened to like the? Big straw that he just shoves in the. Planet and like sucks it up like. Dion Yeah, all of that. But I mean, just like have the weird like, Kirby was great for drawing like. Contraptions that you love on the contraption, and they don’t. You don’t know why or how they work, or they have like extra bits that go off and they crackle with energy that you don’t understand how it sort of goes. He didn’t care about making it look well built. He cared about making something cool and stupid. And then they put Galactus. Fair enough, looked pretty good, you know, for a big. Quinny I look I. Liked big man collectors. I was down. Jill For that, yeah. I didn’t like how his. Height fluctuated with convenience. Peta Say he wasn’t that big in the end. Though was he he? He looked. Jill The lost, yeah. Dion A bit of juice out the back of the tube and then he got a bit. Quinny Maybe. Speaker 6 So then he went and shrunk a bit. Dion Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quinny OK, let’s go with that, yeah. Jill He’s like ohh, now he can fit in this big circle on the ground that he like, would have Godzilla crushed the moment ago. Dion Crush. Sure. Peta Confused if planet size or if Godzilla size. Dion Yeah. Also how would sue push if 2? Quinny Because her push is not based on size, it’s based on willpower. Dion No, but push, baby. Ohh no. OK, recover. Push, galactus. Big baby. Oh, no much. Peta Is is based on magic mummy power? Quinny Yeah, yes, yeah. Like that. That big kind of finale stuff. I was like when he started to climb back out. I was like, ohh. OK now. Dion No. Well. Quinny We’re gonna get some shoes. Jill Yeah, I was like. Oh ****, I jumped. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. I was like, ******* sweet. Great. OK, now we’re gonna really ******* now, now we’re gonna wrap it up, but Nope. That’s just that’s it. Cool. Everybody get home. I would love to have seen them do something real. ******* ballsy. I would have loved to have seen them lose the earth, you know? Yeah. So that that’s why this Fantastic Four, like instead of. Yeah, that’s the run like this. Jill On the run on the. Sleeper on. Peta I’m not sure that Marvel is doing its answer to the trolley problem properly. Quinny Why not teleport the ******* baby and the family to another end of the universe, or to a different ******* dimension or whatever? Jill Because they answered that in the slack with pocket holes does. Speaker Yeah. Yes. Dion I mean. I look I I I I really got that like I enjoyed the bit where they were like, no, this is it honestly. Like we we we may be the people that everyone looks up to on the Earth and that’s a bit problematic to put that much. Responsibility. On four people who were there, but at least they always did it with heart, honesty, integrity and overall admission of failure. To the world. Speaker Hmm. Dion
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To celebrate the release of SHE RIDES SHOTGUN, a new crime thriller, I talked with the author and co-screenwriter Jordan Harper about the joy of watching his work remixed by director Nick Rowland, co-screenwriters Ben Collins & Luke Piotrowski and stars Taron Egerton and Ana Sophia Heger.Synopsis: In the gritty, explosive action-thriller She Rides Shotgun, Taron Egerton stars as newly released ex-con Nate. Marked for death by unrelenting enemies, Nate must now protect his estranged 11-year-old daughter, Polly (Ana Sophia Heger) at all costs. Shy, precocious, and wary of her father, Polly is swept up in Nate's dangerous plight as they flee to evade the corrupt sheriff and brutal leader of a gang who will stop at nothing to protect his criminal interests. With scant resources and no one to trust, Nate and Polly form a bond forged under fire as he shows her how to fight and survive — and she teaches him what unconditional love truly means in this intense, moving story about loyalty, strength, and redemption.SHE RIDES SHOTGUN will be released in American cinemas on August 1, 2025.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/one-heat-minute-productions/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
Pilot. The lads head over to Tim Cook's house to see what they're putting Taron Egerton up to this year, and the big Apple managed to snag Jurnee Smollett as well??? Red & Ivan didn't start the fire, but they did watch several beautifully filmed infernos in Apple TV+'s Smoke. Also, check out Red & Maggie Tokuda-Hall's podcast, Failure to Adapt, available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or via RSS As always: Support Ivan & Red! → patreon.com/boarsgoreswords Follow us on twitter → @boarsgoreswords Find us on facebook → facebook.com/BoarsGoreSwords
Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
What do you get when a koala stages a singing competition with a pig, porcupine, and gorilla? A surprisingly emotional jukebox musical that actually slaps.In this episode, hosts TheDaronJenkins and @ChrisSaunders_Music dive into Sing (2016) — Illumination's animated crowd-pleaser stacked with pop hits and unexpected heart. We break down how the soundtrack elevates the story, why @ToriKelly and #TaronEgerton absolutely understood the assignment, and what #Sing teaches us about using familiar #music to create fresh emotional resonance.Be sure to like and subscribe to the Tracklist on Instagram @tracklistshow
On this episode of Bingeworthy, host Mike DeAngelo is joined by Taron Egerton, the star of "Smoke," a gripping new Apple TV+ series inspired by the real-life crimes of arsonist-turned-investigator John Leonard Orr. Created by Dennis Lehane ("Black Bird"), the series explores the chaos and duality of a man split between duty and destruction.Egerton stars as Dave Gudsen, a small-town arson investigator who appears to be a dependable family man. But as the series progresses, a darker truth is revealed.According to Egerton, one of the biggest acting challenges came in those early episodes, where Dave must suppress his true self. The series also stars Jurnee Smollett, Greg Kinnear, Rafe Spall, John Leguizamo, and more.‘Smoke' Review: Dennis Lehane's Latest Apple Collaboration With Taron Egerton Plays Like A B-Side To ‘Black Bird'
Welcome to TV Break, where Pop Break's Podcasts Editor Alex Marcus is joined by editor-in-chief Bill Bodkin, and TV Columnist Josh Sarnecky to talk about the happenings in television.Here's the format of the show:The Best Thing I Saw on TV Last Month – Alex, Bill, & Josh talk about a show/episode/event they liked from the last month including Hulu's The Bear, Disney Plus's Ironheart, and crunchyroll's Demon Slayer, andAMC's Nautilus.Newsbreak – This month, they discuss shocking news that the mind behind The Last of Us, Neil Druckmann, will be leaving the HBO series to focus on a new game, Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet, which is currently in development. The guys also review the backlash around the divisive second season of the series and wonder how much that controversy informed Neil's decision.Streaming Wars – Alex, Bill, & Josh pick a streamer they think “won the month” based on new shows airing/upcoming shows announced etc. This month, everyone backed a different streamer, with Josh giving props to Netflix on the back of its breakthrough Korean content Squid Game and KPop Demon Hunters, as well as strong returning numbers for Ginny & Georgia and Quarterback.Meanwhile, Bill gave some love to Peacock on the strength of viral hit Love Island USA, and Alex gave it to Apple TV Plus after their box office success with F1: The Movie and the recent news that Jennifer Aniston would be starring in and co-showrunning for an adaptation of the hit memoir I'm Glad My Mom Died.New Series Spotlight – This month we are shining the spotlight on Apple TV Plus's fire crime drama Smoke. This series stars Taron Egerton as a local arson investigator on the hunt for not one but two serial arsonists and Jurnee Smollett as a metro detective who is called in to assist his stagnant investigation. Safe Spall, Greg Kinnear, and John Leguizamo also star. The series was created by acclaimed crime novelist Dennis Lehane, based on the podcast Firebug, about arsonist John Leonard Orr, and is directed by The Falcon and The Winter Soldier director Kari Skogland.
On this episode of The Movie Podcast, Daniel and Anthony are joined by returning friend of the show and sandwich enthusiast Taron Egerton, along with Jurnee Smollett and Dennis Lehane to discuss the Apple TV+ original series SMOKE. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Smoke is now streaming on Apple TV+ with new episodes weekly. Watch and listen to The Movie Podcast now on all podcast platforms, YouTube, and TheMoviePodcast.ca Contact: hello@themoviepodcast.ca FOLLOW US Daniel on X, Instagram, Letterboxd Shahbaz on X, Instagram, and Letterboxd Anthony on X, Instagram, and Letterboxd The Movie Podcast on X, Instagram, TikTok, Discord, and Rotten Tomatoes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
Get ready for an electrifying exploration of this summer's most thrilling series! We're serving up exclusive behind-the-scenes glimpses into "Countdown" on Prime Video with Jensen Ackles, Eric Dane & the cast. Plus Taron Egerton & the cast of "Smoke" on Apple TV+. In this episode of Pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon, Imagine the suspense of a ticking clock paired with the complexity of dynamic character interactions in "Countdown," brought to life by the talents of Jensen Ackles and Eric Dane. Kyle talks with Jensen and Eric as well as Jessica Camacho, Violett Beane, Uli Latukefu and Elliot Knight.Meanwhile, "Smoke" promises a gritty narrative with Taron Egerton and Greg Kinnear delivering unforgettable performances. Dennis Lehane takes us through the creative odyssey that birthed "Smoke," exploring themes of chaos and modern manhood. With interviews with Taron, Greg Kinnear, Jurnee Smullet, Ntare Mwine, and Rafe Spall, discover how these actors balance suspense and authenticity, ensuring you're hooked from the first episode to the last.And that's not all! This episode promises to be a captivating ride through these two incredibly gripping shows. Tune in for the exclusive interviews and thrilling insights you won't want to miss!
Be sure to shower with extra shampoo; we have Taron Egerton in the house this week. The land of plenty, the middle of nowhere, and how everyone's home is their home. “You're learning guys, you're learning…” on an all-new SmartLess. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of SmartLess ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.
Tom and Julian of Team Binge are back watching the new Apple TV+ series Smoke, staring Taron Egerton & Jurnee Smollett. When an arson investigator begrudgingly teams up with a police detective, their race to stop two arsonists ignites a twisted game of secrets and suspicions. Join us as we deep dive into each episode and uncover the many mysteries of Smoke.Good Clean Fun.Twitter/Bluesky: @teambingeInstagram/Threads: @teambingepodcastEmail: teambingepodcast@gmail.comMerch: teepublic.com/user/team-binge
Analizamos sin spoilers “Smoke”, la nueva miniserie de Apple TV+ creada por Dennis Lehane. Una serie que mezcla investigación criminal, drama psicológico y fuegos muy reales en la pantalla, protagonizada por un Taron Egerton que vuelve a estar enorme. Estreno: 27 de Junio. Sinopsis: Inspirada en hechos reales, "Smoke" cuenta la historia de una detective atormentada y un enigmático investigador de incendios provocados que siguen la pista de dos pirómanos en serie. Únete a nuestro chat de telegram en el que miles de personas hablamos cada dia de series: Telegram – Grupo de debate: https://telegram.me/fueradeseries Telegram – Canal de noticias: https://t.me/noticiasfds Twitter: https://twitter.com/fueradeseries Facebook: https://twitter.com/fueradeseries Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fueradeseries/ Youtube: youtube.com/fueradeseries Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of Reel Insights, Sean Tajipour, the Mayor of Nerdtropolis, chats with the incredible Jurnee Smollett to talk about her gripping new Apple TV+ series, Smoke.Jurnee dives into the emotional complexities of playing Detective Michelle Calderon—a workaholic drawn to self-destructive behavior—and reveals how real-life experiences shaped her approach to the character.She also opens up about her explosive on-screen chemistry with Taron Egerton, the intensity of their cat-and-mouse dynamic, and what made working with him so effortless and authentic.Plus, hear what shocked Jurnee most about the series and why she says audiences have no idea what's coming. Buckle up—Smoke is a wild ride.Smoke is streaming on Apple TV+ on June 27.Visit Nerdtropolis.comFacebookInstagramTwitterTikTok
Christina Hendricks couldn't stay away and is back on the podcast this week, talking this time about the return of The Buccaneers to Apple TV+ (28:59-50:14). And speaking of Apple, the new show from Dennis Lehane, Smoke, goes under the Pilot TV microscope this week as we follow Taron Egerton and Jurnee Smollett in tracking down a serial arsonist (1:19:07). Plus we join Jordan Gray and Nick Frost in ITV's supermarket comedy Transaction (59:54), and go undercover with Jensen Ackles in Countdown on Prime (1:11:03). (Episode 342)Note: time stamps are approximate as the ads throw them out, so are only meant as a guide. If you want to avoid this and would like the podcast entirely ad-free (as well as 17 hours early, with a second weekly show and spoiler specials) then sign up to Pilot+!
Mario Cantone talks new season of 'And Just Like That'; Taron Egerton talks new series, 'Smoke'; Coca-Cola is bringing back Diet Cherry Cok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mario Cantone talks new season of 'And Just Like That'; Taron Egerton talks new series, 'Smoke'; Coca-Cola is bringing back Diet Cherry Cok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What a CreepBillionaire Boys Club's Joe HuntSeason 28, Episode 8We're talking about the Billionaire Boys Club. You might remember it from the 1987 miniseries of the same name, starring Judd Nelson and Ron Silver. You don't know it from the 2018 movie “Billionaire Boys Club,” starring Ansel Elgort, Taron Egerton, and Kevin Spacey, because it made $618 million in 11 theaters during its opening weekend.The Billionaires Boys Club was an investment club started by Joe Hunt. Well, he called it an investment club. It was really a Ponzi scheme that led to the murder of two people. What a creep.Sources for this episodeDominick Dunne's Power, Privilege, and JusticeE! OnlineInvestigation DiscoveryReutersThe San Francisco ExaminerSan Mateo Daily JournalWikipediaTrigger warnings: MurderNON-Creep: Alice's Kids non-profitBe sure to follow us on social media. But don't follow us too closely … don't be a creep about it! Subscribe to us on Apple PodcastsBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/whatacreep.bsky.social Facebook: Join the private group! Instagram @WhatACreepPodcastVisit our Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/whatacreepEmail: WhatACreepPodcast@gmail.com We've got merch here! https://whatacreeppodcast.threadless.com/#Our website is www.whatacreeppodcast.com Our logo was created by Claudia Gomez-Rodriguez. Follow her on Instagram @ClaudInCloud