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Jesse heads to the wind tunnel and tests cheap wheels and wide tyres, we break down the results. The UCI have their sights on banning more things, while SRAM and Cervelo launch new products.
TRP's new Vistar drivetrain combines a 12-speed cassette with a Classified internally geared hub to give you the benefits of a front derailleur without the hassle and complication, but does it work in the real world? Senior Tech Editor Josh Ross has spent months using it and explains the benefits, drawbacks, and how the hybrid 1X system compares to a traditional drivetrain. Josh has also been riding the new SRAM Force and Rival drivetrains that aim to bring the performance of Red down to a lower price point; he describes the differences between each group and tells Levy why Force is the answer. Cervelo also just released their Aspero-5 gravel race bike that trades tire clearance and comfort for pure aero-focused speed, which is the opposite approach that we're seeing with most new designs. Alvin has been testing the fresh Aspero and explains why this new "gravel bike" might be the ideal all-road machine for many riders. Lastly, the crew debates the UCI's strange new tech mandates that limit handlebar width, fork leg geometry, rim height, and aero helmets, all of which are intended to slow racers down and increase safety. But are yet more rules really the answer, and how do the UCI's decisions affect what consumers can purchase? For your consideration: TRP Vistar with Classified Stacks up to the Big Groupset Players, but There's a Catch SRAM Force AXS First Ride: RED Gets a Discount SRAM Rival AXS XPLR First Ride: 13-Speed Gets Cheaper First Ride: Cervelo Áspero-5 Is a Fast Gravel Bike That Might Just Replace Your Road Bike New UCI Gear Rules Incoming: Rim Height Limits, Minimum Bar Widths, and a Tech Fraud Crackdown
Wow, what a week for those who love cycling tech!If four new dropbar groupsets from SRAM weren't enough, then Shimano certainly fills that glass with its sudden release of XT and Deore Di2. Join Escape's Dave Rome, Suvi Loponen and Alex Hunt as they discuss what's new and some things to be aware of.Meanwhile, the UCI released some upcoming rule changes that have many riders and cycling businesses upset. The geeks discuss why some of these rulings have been blown out of proportion, and why one of them is arguably just wrong.Of course, there are a couple of new bikes (Cervelo and Orbea) to discuss, and CeramicSpeed has released its first do-it-yourself hot melt wax which promises a whole lot of distance.As always, members of Escape Collective have access to the Ask a Wrench segment at the end of the episode. Here, Dave Rome is joined by pro race mechanic Brad Copeland to answer a number of geeky questions, including a trick for keeping valve nuts in place without over-tightening them, our thoughts on the best cone wrenches, mixing-and-matching chainring sizes on SRAM, a rear shock that's fussy to inflate, and a Shimano front derailleur that's hard to shift.Enjoy!Time Stamps:2:15 - Explaining the UCI's Handlebar width ruling and specifically where it's wrong17:00 - SRAM's new Force and Rival AXS27:30 - Shimano's new XT and Deore wireless shifting36:30 - Cervelo's new Aspero 543:45 - Orbea's Terra gravel bike gets overhauled47:00 - CeramicSpeed's new long-lasting hot melt wax52:00 - Ask a Wrench (Member-only!)55:00 - A tip for tubeless valve nuts in place58:30 - A deep dive and our top suggestions for good cone wrenches1:10:00 - Mixing-and-matching chainring sizes with SRAM AXS1:15:00 - Rear shock inflation woes and shock pumps1:21:00 - Fixing Shimano Ultegra front derailleur that's hard to shift
Unbound gave us some incredible racing and smashed previous course records, but it wasn't without controversy. With higher speeds, larger fields, and more competition than ever before, the Unbound pit zones were hectic and dangerous, especially with pros and amateurs alike taking a free-for-all approach. Should Unbound add more rules to keep racers safe, or should they move to a fully unsupported format without pit zones? Alvin, Josh, and Levy also dig into all the new prototypes, including the unreleased Cervelo, something that sure looks like a new Specialized Diverge, and Factor's wild-looking aero machine that takes its DNA from their track bike. Alvin has also been riding DT Swiss' new F132 ONE gravel suspension fork and it sounds like he's a believer.
June has started with a bang when it comes to new cycling tech. This week we've seen the long-awaited release of new Shimano XTR Di2, the next generation Super Record from Campagnolo, and a welcomed new power pedal from Favero. All are new products that Dave Rome and Ronan Mc Laughlin discuss, in addition to being covered in more detail on Escape Collective.In addition to all that, Unbound gravel saw a whole bunch of unreleased bikes being raced, which Dave and Josh Weinberg (US tech and culture editor) discuss.Of course, there's also the usual PSA, Ronan has something on his mind, and the episode wraps with the member-only Ask a Wrench segment (with Zach Edwards of Boulder Groupetto helping to answer questions). Members can submit new questions here.As a reminder, this week also brought a special episode of Geek Warning where Shimano's North American MTB product manager, Nick Murdick, was interviewed about all things related to new XTR Di2.Timestamps:2:30 - New Shimano XTR7:50 - Campagnolo's new Super Record WRL 1319:15 - Favero Assioma Pro RS road power pedals27:45 - PSA on eye safety32:00 - On Ronan's mind, uh oh40:00 - Unbound tech42:30 - Specialized's new Diverge45:30 - A name suggestion for the new Pinarello gravel racer47:00 - Factor's two new unreleased gravel bikes51:50 - Orbea's also got two new gravel bikes going around54:00 - And Vos on a new Cervelo gravel race bike?55:00 - Euro versus US gravel racing seen in bike design1:00:30 - A pre-installed backup tube1:04:30 - Ask a Wrench (member-only)1:06:15 - How to adjust eccentric bottom brackets on single-speeds1:11:30 - A tip for finding dropped items1:15:40 - Our favourite hand cleaner? Hello gloves.1:22:00 - Removing the impossibly stuck crank
Thanks to Garmin for supporting the podcast! Sign up for Garmin Ride Out here: https://action.org.uk/events/cycling/garmin-ride-out 00:00 Ad: Jimmi's rookie error + join us at Garmin Ride Out!01:16 Jimmi's mystery caller…04:32 BMC to lay off a quarter of their staff12:43 BMC release ‘customisable' Teammachine17:20 Komoot's new buyers axed 150 staff20:56 Zipp's new wheels have an in-build tyre pressure monitor26:11 We lost the audio… (FUOTW)27:11 Unpopular Opinion: You should spend the same price on equipment as you do for your bike36:00 Unpopular Opinion: Why do bike reviewers always do this?47:00 Send us your Unpopular Opinions and questions!47:16 Help! I want to go slower!Cervelo caledonia campaign: https://youtu.be/Ab9V5f8mnqc?si=w1cAWT7FVkhDFe4RKomoot party video: https://youtu.be/qLJkK4Wn1HI?si=2XOIA6oS2Cn11nmVYou can check out the video versions of the podcast, plus more videos from Cade Media here:https://www.youtube.com/@Cade_Media/videosIf you'd like us to send in a question, story, some good news, things you'd like us to discuss or anything else, email us at wildonespodcast@cademedia.co.ukThanks and see you next time. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Leaks of what appears to be the new Cervelo S5, Chris rides the one bike to do it solution and we have some very controversial Dogs or Fast Bikes
2024 has been an amazing year and I want to thank everybody that has a subscribed and listened to as well as the guests that came on to the show. We've had some amazing growth and we couldn't have done it without all of you. I also wanted to take a minute and just look back at some of the conversations that we had over the course of the year. Thanks everyone again for supporting the podcast and we look forward to a really successful 2025.In the episode we feature clips from the conversations with Gerard Vroomen (Cervelo Founder), Simon Mottram (Rapha Founder), David Trimble (Red Hook Crit Founder), and Matthew Stephens (GCN).00:00 - Intro00:53 - Gerard Vroomen 12:46 - Simon Mottram22:42 - David Trimble 33:00 - Matthew StephensRead the latest 'The Business of Cycling' BlogSign up for 'The Business of Cycling' Newsletter
2025 is shaping up to be a very exciting year for new road bikes, so we have selected our favourites for the year ahead.
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Welcome to another members-only (at least the full episode) edition of the Geek Warning podcast. This episode came together after the boutique brand Open Cycle [teased a long-awaited update to its Up gravel bike. For those who aren't familiar with the Open Up, it was a bike to break new ground for the emerging sporty gravel space through its dual-wheel size compatibility with 700c and 650B. Meanwhile, it achieved the clearance between the rear tyre and chainring by introducing dropped chainstays to the market. Open Cycle was founded by Andy Kessler (former CEO of BMC) and Gerard Vroomen (co-founder of Cervelo, and until recently, also the co-owner of 3T). Between Open and 3T, Vroomen has pushed many boundaries in the gravel space in recent years. In this episode, Vroomen covers the details of the new Up and Upper bike range and the design decisions made. We touch on Open's move to on-shoring production. I pry unsuccessfully into teased compatibility with unreleased Shimano. And we chat about the move to threaded bottom brackets. Plus, members of Escape will hear me eat my own hat as despite designing a 700c-only bike, Vroomen strongly defends the smaller 650B-wheelsize and laments (and explains) its loss.It's a varied chat with a whole lot of interesting experience in designing and engineering bikes shared. Enjoy!A portion of this podcast is available to all. The full length, including the conversation on 650B vs 700C is available exclusively to members of Escape Collective. To add member-only podcasts, including this one, to your podcast player of choice, click here.
Join us on the Find Your Edge podcast as we chat with Coach Jason, whose triathlon journey began with a surprising twist—his wife getting him to run a marathon. Hear how Jason loves to work with athletes who have a passion for strength training or just balancing multisport with other activities. Jason sheds light on the vital role of strength training, particularly for aging athletes, and shares his own regimen for maintaining peak performance.Get to know Jason's favorites, including his (many) bike brands (spoiler: it's Cervelo), and why he loves the 70.3 distance for its strategic complexity and hydration and fueling needs. Hear his biggest pet peeves like competitive drafting and why you should be in aero more. Tune in for Jason's expert advice and find out how you can train with him at theenduranceedge.com. Support the showDownload our free resources: 6 Steps to Triathlon Success: Free Guide Hydration Guide for Athletes Runner's Fueling & Hydration Cheat Sheet Guide to High Performance Healthy Eating Find us here: TheEnduranceEdge.comRace with us: Humans of Steel Olympic & Sprint Triathlon at Harris Lake, NCPurchase Safe Supplements here.Follow us on Instagram or Facebook
Today's episode is presented by PILLAR PERFORMANCECheck out pillarperformance.shop and use code NERO at checkout for 15% off We rode Amy's Gran Fondo this weekend, qualify for the UCI Gran Fondo world championships. But we wanted to deep dive into gran fondos in 2024. They are most popular road cycling events we have, but are we doing them right? Plenty of gear chat from what we saw as well as an adhoc Tavelo vs Cervelo debate. Finally 5 tips to make your road bike descending even better. Chapters00:30 Qualifying For UCI Gran Fondo World Champs12:51 What's Happening To GF Courses?21:01 Has The UCI Stuffed Up Gran Fondos?24:35 What Did Other Riders Think?33:58 How Much Did It Cost?37:51 Was It Worth It?46:21 Gear Chat From The Weekend55:53 Tavelo vs Cervelo1:10:01 New S5 Expectations1:15:33 YouTube Round Up1:19:18 5 Tips To Better Descending Footage courtesy of @FreshCrits @TheCyclingTattooist @JordanWatkinsRacing @AmysGranFondo2024 Grab a Nero Kit: https://nero-club.myshopify.comSUBSCRIBE On Youtube: http://bit.ly/2gMWc1tThe Nero Show is available on your favourite Podcast platformSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0UEODvANsVqrvSZV5TAqBvAmazon:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/28558e66-2a6b-4ff5-a6bf-709f05b1ffe9Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nero-cycling-show-|-unfiltered-cycling-podcast/id1659229051-----------------------------------------------------------------------------INSTAGRAM: @chrismiller27 @nerocontinentalTWITTER: @chrismiller @nerocontinentalSTRAVA: https://www.strava.com/athletes/186450Check Out Jesse's Coaching: https://www.nero.club/coaching Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Cervelo founder Gerard Vroomen is an entrepreneur and an engineer. When I asked Gerard if he is more entrepeneur or engineer, his answer was YES.It was truly amazing to talk with Gerard and hear about his journey from student to building one of the most important bicycle brands in the world.During the conversation, you really get a sense of his firsthand experience.He shared how they gained traction with high-performance triathlon bikes and how, through innovation, tenacity, and hard work, they made significant inroads into the challenging North American market.Read the latest 'The Business of Cycling' BlogSign up for 'The Business of Cycling' Newsletter
It's 2024 and yet we have a new high-end rim brake Colnago to discuss. We certainly didn't expect to write that sentence.Also in this week's Geek Warning, you'll hear Brad, Ronan, and Dave discuss some broad aero themes seen at the Olympic Games. There's some chit-chat about Cervelo's minor update to the Caledonia 5. And Ronan shares a Garmin-related PSA that he had to learn the hard way.Perhaps the biggest news is that Ask a Wrench has returned. Members of Escape Collective can now submit a recorded question for use in future episodes (please introduce yourself at the beginning).The episode wraps with some recall-related news out of the USA. And lastly, Dave and Brad discuss Madrone Cycles, a small company focussed on bringing beaten SRAM Eagle derailleurs back to life.Time stamps:1:00 - Tech at the Olympic Track17:40 - Colnago's novel new braking system26:50 - Cervelo updates the Caledonia 5, but only a little33:30 - Ronan's PSA for Garmin users36:15 - Ask a Wrench returns!57:00 - CPSC rules Amazon is liable for recalls59:10 - Brompton recalls 2024 T-line bikes1:00:00 - Madrone repairs SRAM Eagle derailleurs
This week, on How I Met Your Data Anjali and I have a special edition for you. We're going to debrief on the Snowflake Data Cloud Summit that took place just a couple of weeks ago. Joining us is Michael Cochrane, Cervelo's Global Data and Analytics Consulting Practice Leader, and a longtime colleague of mine. We dive deep into the evolution of Snowflake, its impact on clients, and how it has transformed from a cloud-optimized data solution to a comprehensive platform supporting multi-cloud and real-time data needs. Mike also discusses the significance of governance, privacy, and cost management in today's data landscape. We explore the latest advancements and releases showcased at the summit, including Snowflake's partnership with NVIDIA and the push towards native apps and containerized services. The conversation also touches on the increasing complexity of data architectures and the importance of maintaining transparency and optionality in technology investments. Join us as we reflect on the exciting developments from the Snowflake Summit and discuss the future of data engineering, AI, and the ever-evolving role of technology in driving business value.
Today on the Marni On The Move podcast I sync up with Ryan Calilung, Head of Product Development at Cervélo. Ryan has a long career in product development and engineering and a cycling life and career that go back even further! During our conversation, Ryan shares where cycling began for him and where he is now. He sheds light on Cervélo's new Rouvida E-Bike, all the bells and whistles, and what Cervélo brings to the cycling scene with its latest innovation from design to sustainability. We also do a bit of a deep to dive into cycling, tech and gear talking about tubeless vs tubular rims, motor pacing and e-bikes as a cycling training tool, and the Rouvida e-bike speed and battery life. Ryan also shares where Cervelo began and how the company has grown over the decades. Plus, I get an inside look at some cycling events on Ryan's calender! OFFERS KETONE-IQ: Ketone.com/Marni for 30% Off First Subscription CONNECT Cervélo on Instagram Marni On The Move Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, or YouTube` Marni Salup on Instagram and Spotify SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER Sign up for our weekly newsletter, Do What Moves You, for Marni on the Move updates, exclusive offers, invites to events, and exciting news! SUPPORT THE PODCAST Leave us a review on Apple. It's easy, scroll through the episode list on your podcast app, click on five stars, click on leave a review, and share what you love about the conversations you're listening to. Tell your friends to what you love on social. Screenshot or share directly from our stories the episode you're listening to, tag us and the guests.
The Sea Otter Classic just wrapped up literally a few days ago, but clearly someone forgot to turn off the tap of new bikes and gear. Cervelo just announced a redesign of its ultra-popular Aspero gravel bike, and clearly put a lot of thought into what needed to change – and perhaps more importantly, what didn't. Colnago also just dropped a new gravel bike of its own, the G4X, and Giant finally revamped its Trinity TT bike – no more rim brakes! Dave and James also chat about the eight billion tubeless valve stems out on the market, our favorite mountain bike computer mounts, and some of the latest happenings on the industry side.Escape Collective's podcasts are made possible by our members. Head on over to escapecollective.com/join to support this show and everything else on our podcast network.Timestamps:3:17 – Cervelo's ultra-popular Aspero gravel bike gets a careful redesign10:50 – Zwift has added a whole bunch of new features, and some of them sound pretty sweet15:15 – What's up with seemingly everyone having their own high-flow tubeless valves now?28:11 – Pick one! Our favorite mountain bike computer mounts38:54 – A dirty cassette can easily turn into a skipping chain43:22 – Colnago announces its new G4X gravel race bike58:54 – The last holdout of rim brakes in the pro peloton is no more59:30 – Enve Composites has been sold1:01:07 – What the heck is going on at Rapha?1:06:29 – More industry layoffs, this time at Cannondale
The Sea Otter Classic just wrapped up literally a few days ago, but clearly someone forgot to turn off the tap of new bikes and gear. Cervelo just announced a redesign of its ultra-popular Aspero gravel bike, and clearly put a lot of thought into what needed to change – and perhaps more importantly, what didn't. Colnago also just dropped a new gravel bike of its own, the G4X, and Giant finally revamped its Trinity TT bike – no more rim brakes! Dave and James also chat about the eight billion tubeless valve stems out on the market, our favorite mountain bike computer mounts, and some of the latest happenings on the industry side.Escape Collective's podcasts are made possible by our members. Head on over to escapecollective.com/join to support this show and everything else on our podcast network.Timestamps:3:17 – Cervelo's ultra-popular Aspero gravel bike gets a careful redesign10:50 – Zwift has added a whole bunch of new features, and some of them sound pretty sweet15:15 – What's up with seemingly everyone having their own high-flow tubeless valves now?28:11 – Pick one! Our favorite mountain bike computer mounts38:54 – A dirty cassette can easily turn into a skipping chain43:22 – Colnago announces its new G4X gravel race bike58:54 – The last holdout of rim brakes in the pro peloton is no more59:30 – Enve Composites has been sold1:01:07 – What the heck is going on at Rapha?1:06:29 – More industry layoffs, this time at Cannondale
Bridge Bike Works is an upstart brand that's trying to make a go at building premium carbon fiber bikes in Canada. It's not just a geographic thing or a point of national pride here, though. Bridge says it's obviously proud of making bikes in its own backyard, but it's also striving to make better product, period, by keeping the entire process – from R&D to lay-up and curing to paint – under a single unobtrusive industrial roof in Cervelo's old stomping grounds. In this Geek Warning episode, James sits down with Bridge co-founders Frank Gairdner and Mike Yakubowicz to see just what makes the company tick, why it might be smart to start asking about hobbies the next time you interview someone for a job, and how the quest to build its own fork nearly broke them.
Bridge Bike Works is an upstart brand that's trying to make a go at building premium carbon fiber bikes in Canada. It's not just a geographic thing or a point of national pride here, though. Bridge says it's obviously proud of making bikes in its own backyard, but it's also striving to make better product, period, by keeping the entire process – from R&D to lay-up and curing to paint – under a single unobtrusive industrial roof in Cervelo's old stomping grounds. In this Geek Warning episode, James sits down with Bridge co-founders Frank Gairdner and Mike Yakubowicz to see just what makes the company tick, why it might be smart to start asking about hobbies the next time you interview someone for a job, and how the quest to build its own fork nearly broke them.
Sepp Kuss runs an unusual spec set up in the first few races of the year, whilst a few pro team kit style issues are spotted. Wahoo and Zwift deliver an incredible bit of value while we answer our first subscriber question live on the show. Chapters00:00 intro00:26 Kuss Runs 1x07:20 Pro Kit Fails By Pros 10:16 Where is FSA/Vision Going?16:40 Wahoo/Zwift Game Changer26:06 Subscriber Question: Sugar Water35:20 Fondo Nutrition Plan44:41 Remco Intervals Video49:20 Cedrick's Training Camp53:12 Katie's Rim Brake BikeNero Kit: https://nero-club.myshopify.comSUBSCRIBE On Youtube: http://bit.ly/2gMWc1tThe Nero Show is available on your favourite Podcast platformSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0UEODvANsVqrvSZV5TAqBvAmazon:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/28558e66-2a6b-4ff5-a6bf-709f05b1ffe9Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nero-cycling-show-|-unfiltered-cycling-podcast/id1659229051Footage courtesy of @gplama @KatieKookaburra @cedrikbakkechristophersen @artem4ik19 @nerocoaching -----------------------------------------------------------------------------INSTAGRAM: @chrismiller27 @nerocontinentalTWITTER: @chrismiller @nerocontinentalSTRAVA: https://www.strava.com/athletes/186450Check Out Jesse's Coaching: https://www.nero.club/coaching Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
A week of riding the 1x Cervelo super bike, Jesse wants answers, and we go into depth trying to work of the language that really makes sense to riders when it comes to a review. Who should be riding a 1X system, Alex Dowsett starts a coaching company and we review our chat with Joe from @ChinaCycling . We hope you enjoy the show and a happy New Year to everyone!Chapter Markers00:00 intro00:30 S5 First Impressions12:50 Who Should Run 1X23:01 Review Specs That Matter32:19 Proposed Festive 500 Changes41:54 China Cycling Chat45:41 Visma Lease A Bike48:23 Alex Dowsett Coaching55:44 Jesse blasts Chris For PostGrab A Nero Suit: https://nero-club.myshopify.comChris' 3D printing guy: https://concentriccycling.comSUBSCRIBE On Youtube: http://bit.ly/2gMWc1tThe Nero Show is available on your favourite Podcast platformSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/0UEODvANsVqrvSZV5TAqBvAmazon:https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/28558e66-2a6b-4ff5-a6bf-709f05b1ffe9Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nero-cycling-show-|-unfiltered-cycling-podcast/id1659229051-----------------------------------------------------------------------------INSTAGRAM: @chrismiller27 @nerocontinentalTWITTER: @chrismiller @nerocontinentalSTRAVA: https://www.strava.com/athletes/186450Check Out Jesse's Coaching: https://www.nero.club/coaching Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jens Haug ist Market Lead für Santa Cruz und Cervelo für Deutschland und Österreich. Davor war er viele Jahre für die Kommunikation von Cannondale erst in Deutschland, dann auf Europaebene verantwortlich. Es sind sehr sportliche und innovative Marken, für die er arbeitet und die ihn begeistern. Wir sprechen über die Entwicklungen in der Kommunikation, über die Marktlage und wie Kultur als relevanter Bestandteile der Marken und auch des Sports weiterentwickelt werden kann. Dazu werfen wir auch einen kurzen Blick in die Vergangenheit zu einem Event das er mit Freunden in den 90ern umsetzte und dort genau diesem nicht perfekten, nicht ganz fertigen einen Raum gab. Willkommen am desire lines-Lagerfeuer Jens Haug.
There's a lot of tech news this week – Cervelo's new Rouvida e-bike, Strava DMs, pro sponsorship musical chairs, and Wiggle's dramatic contraction – and the geeks also discuss if we've perhaps hit peak gravel in terms of product development. And even if we have, is that a bad thing? We also reveal our favorite mountain bike pedals, the unexpected benefit of a $670 rear derailleur pulley cage assembly, and the importance of cheap hardtails.
Hoo boy, it's been a big week in tech, and our resident geeks had a lot to talk about.It was just a matter of time before Cervelo jumped into the e-bike market, and that day has finally come with the new Rouvida. The same frame is used for two road and two gravel models, but Cervelo has incorporated flip chips in the front and rear dropouts to adjust the geometry accordingly. Despite the sizable battery hidden away inside the down tube, the carbon fiber frame looks pretty good, too – not entirely unlike Cervelo's original Soloist Carbon, in fact. All versions are powered by Fazua's Ride60 mid-drive motor for smooth and quiet running, and James has just received a gravel test sample so stay tuned for a proper review in the weeks ahead.Looking for some marginal gains on your SRAM Transmission-equipped mountain bike? CeramicSpeed has released a new version of its OSPW oversized pulley cage assembly with 14T upper and 20T lower pulleys, smooth-running hybrid ceramic bearings, and a novel self-cleaning design. But while the eye-watering price is getting all the attention, what you might really want to think about is the lifetime warranty.Fulcrum's new Red Zone Carbon+ mountain bike wheels tick a lot of boxes: low weight, an inventive rim design that supposedly produces perfectly even spoke tensions, a solid outer rim wall for easy and reliable tubeless setup, and low-friction adjustable angular contact hybrid ceramic bearings. The pawl-type rear hub engagement is on the slower side, though. Does that matter? Maybe – or maybe not. It depends.Gravel bikes have unquestionably been the hot segment of the bicycle market for the past several years, and the progression in the product has been astronomical. But with such a narrow gap between road/all-road bikes and XC mountain bikes to fill, how much space is there really for innovation? Not that it's at all a bad thing to reach this level of maturity this quickly, but have we already hit peak gravel?The geeks are rarely in agreement over everything, but in our Pick One! segment this week, there's surprisingly little debate among us when it comes to our favorite mountain bike pedals.James just received a bike he's especially excited to test, and it's also one of the least-expensive ones he's tested, too: Trek's entry-level Marlin 7 aluminum hardtail. It might not be fancy, but it's arguably far more important than any bike that costs ten times as much.And finally, Wiggle has dramatically contracted its business, the MADE handmade bicycle show has also announced its dates for the 2024 event, Strava has launched a new direct messaging function, Campagnolo is out of the World Tour, Ag2r moves to Van Rysel bikes, TotalEnergies is now on Enve, and Bora is supposedly switching to SRAM components.Timestamps:3:24 – Cervelo's new Rouvida e-bike looks pretty good9:40 – CeramicSpeed is coming for your Transmission rear derailleurs18:03 – Are Fulcrum's new Red Zone Carbon+ XC mountain bike wheels fast (engaging) enough?23:09 – Has the bike industry reached peak gravel in terms of product development?31:55 – Pick One!38:12 – Cheap bikes are good42:40 – Wiggle's mighty fall from grace44:22 – MADE is coming back for 2024!45:27 – Strava is sliding into you DMs46:33 – Pro team sponsor musical chairs
Great Boulder Resources Ltd (ASX:GBR) MD Andrew Paterson tells Proactive the company has intersected shallow gold in its recent reverse circulation drill program at Cervelo Prospect within the Side Well Gold Project near Meekatharra in Western Australia. Assays have been received for the final six holes at this newly discovered target, on the east side of the expanding Mulga Bill area. #ProactiveInvestors #GreatBoulderResources #ASX #Gold #SideWellProject #invest #investing #investment #investor #stockmarket #stocks #stock #stockmarketnews
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In three short years cycling industry veteran Francesco Sergio and his partners have taken the cycling shoe brand Nimbl from an zero to being worn by 122 cyclists in the Pro Peloton, including powerhouse Jumbo Visma.We speak with co-founder and owner of the brand about his journey, how he earned his stripes in international sales with Cinelli and Cervelo, and how by chance he came to start one of the most advanced cycling shoe brands on the market.Read the latest 'The Business of Cycling' BlogSign up for 'The Business of Cycling' Newsletter
Modern cross-country mountain bike racing is absolutely on fire these days. The riders are faster, more skilled, and more interesting than ever; the courses are technical and physically demanding; and the bikes are so capable they'd put the "trail bikes" of yesteryear to shame. But one has to look no further than some dyed-in-the-wool road brands to see how hot the segment is right now, because even they're getting into the game.Also, in this week's show: (some) bikes are getting cheaper, there are prototype cross-country suspension forks everywhere, and the UCI dropped a logistical bomb on teams just weeks ahead of the Tour.Episode time stamps (oh, that's new for us!):2:35 - BMC's TT bike and company news.13:30 - Pinarello is returning to mountain bikes.16:35 - What are P1 Race Tech mountain bike wheels?19:29 - Cervelo getting deeper into XC.21:23 - A flurry of forks and the boom of XC.30:35 - Lauf drops Seigla prices in the USA. Plus other price drops.35:30 - Will we see new UCI technical controls at the TDF?49:45 - The growth of tyre inserts.60:00 - On our minds and debating cup and cone bearing hubs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Ladies & Gentleman, we are coming to you live this week from the TDU Village, We have special guest Captain Peg Leg who's been at the local bank checking his balance, we have more info on our competition (2 Cervelo Frames Up For Grabs) come along for the ride, the laughs, the banter & more!!
In this week's episode, Randall has Josh Poertner on to talk aerodynamics. In a wide-ranging conversation, the two touch upon Josh's time as Technical Director at Zipp, involvement in the development of computational models for rotating wheels, early collaboration with Cervelo founders Phil White and Gerard Vroomen, founding and leadership of the product brand Silca and The Marginal Gains Podcast, and ongoing consulting work with elite athletes and teams. Silca Website Marginal Gains Podcast Episode Sponsor: Logos Components Support the Podcast Join The Ridership Automated Transcription, please excuse the typos: Silca - Josh Poertner [00:00:00] Craig Dalton: Hello, and welcome to the gravel ride podcast, where we go deep on the sport of gravel cycling through in-depth interviews with product designers, event organizers and athletes. Who are pioneering the sport I'm your host, Craig Dalton, a lifelong cyclist who discovered gravel cycling back in 2016 and made all the mistakes you don't need to make. I approach each episode as a beginner down, unlock all the knowledge you need to become a great gravel cyclist. This week on the show, I'm handing the microphone back to my co-host Randall Jacobs. Who's got Josh Portner, the CEO of Silka on the shout out a wide range in conversation about the sport and high performance. Many of you may be familiar with the storied Silka brand. It's been around for close to a hundred years. But josh took over back in 2013 with a mission of merging the highest quality materials and craftsmanship with cutting edge design and manufacturing When you visit the Silca website, you notice a tagline, the pursuit of perfection, never settling, always improving. And I think that embodies how Josh approaches the sport. . So I'm excited to pass you over to Randall to dig into this conversation. Before we jump in i want to thank this week sponsor logos components Yeah, I've been itching to get back on a set of six 50 B wheels, and I've been waiting for my logo's components, wheels to arrive. They literally just arrived last night and I'm super stoked. But yet disappointed because I have to go away for the weekend and I won't be able to actually ride them until sometime next week. I chose the Atara six 50 B model. As you know, I'm sort of big on the big tires, big fun philosophy. So I've been eager on my unicorn, which I've been riding on a 700 SEASET for a while now. To get into the six 50 bees again and see what a six 50 by 50 combined with that rock shock fork is going to yield for me on the trails here in Marin. You guys may remember. Me sitting down with Randall, talking about what makes a great gravel wheel set and everything that went into these logos component wheels. I encourage you to go back to that conversation because whether or not the logo's wheel set is for you or not. I think Randall does an excellent job of teasing out. All the various considerations. You should be having when considering buying a gravel wheelset, It is no small expense when getting into a carbon wheel set, but the team at logos has endeavored with their direct consumer model. Uh, to make it as affordable as possible and make them as durable and high performing as anything out there on the market. I written wheels designed by Randall for the last three years. So I'm super excited. To see his latest vision come to fruition. With these new wheels and I'll have them underneath me soon enough. I encourage you to check them out@logoscomponents.com. Randall's also an active member of the ridership community. So if you have questions for him, feel free to join us over there at the ridership and connect with other riders. I seen people paying that their wheels have arrived so you can get some real, real people answering your questions. About whether they're enjoying the wheelset and how they perform, et cetera. And I'll have more on this in future additions. At this point. I'm going to hand the microphone over to Randall. And i hope you enjoy this conversation with josh [00:03:30] Randall: Josh Portner, thank you for joining us on the podcast. This is a conversation I've been looking forward to for quite some time. Some deep bike nerdy is probably about to ensue, so, uh, let's dive, let's hope. Dive right into it. [00:03:43] Josh: Well, thank you for having me. Always, always up for some deep bike. Nerdy. I like that. [00:03:49] Randall: So a number of our listeners will already know who you are, but just give folks a high level summary of what you do now. [00:03:55] Josh: Oh gosh. So I own Silca, um, or I own Arrow Mind, which, uh, owns the Silca brand and trademark, um, and, and all that that entails. And then we also have a, uh, we own Marginal Gains, which is a podcast and a YouTube channel. And, um, Yeah, our goal is to, a mind works with a lot of pro riders, pro teams, world tour teams. Um, you know, we do everything, Excuse me. We do everything from, you know, performance consulting, uh, modeling, uh, you know, setting up our record attempts for people or, or helping them design our record attempts. Um, you know, we do tire pressure work with pros. We do equipment choices for teams. We think some of the most interesting stuff we do, um, is around where like, uh, teams or national federations don't trust the equipment they're getting from somebody. And they'll come to us and say, you know, the, you know, bike brand X says that this does this, and our writers don't think so. Can you tell us what's true? And. We'll find a way to make that happen. So we, we've had some pretty interesting ones of those with, uh, particularly around the Olympics with the national federations. You know, no, nobody wants to have another Under Armor speeds skating suit, uh, situation, , right? Where all the, all the athletes think something is true and therefore it becomes true and, and nobody knows. And so, um, you know, so we do a lot of that. Arrow mind does that, essentially. And so that's a lot of the performance work I was doing in my old world. I was technical director at ZIP for almost 15 years. Um, and, and then Silca is the product arm of the company. Uh, that's probably how, you know, most people know us. You know, we make pumps and tools and, and, but we also make a lot of crazy things that people look at me and go, Oh, where the hell did that come from? Well, that probably came from some project or another. We did it in the Arrow Mind side of the business, Um mm-hmm. . So that's how we've gotten into sealants and lubricants and 3D printing and, and all sorts of other craziness. Right? That's sort of how the one flows into the other. And then, you know, Marginal Gains is a podcast and, and YouTube channel where we talk about it all and, and we, we typically with a, a team or a company have like a two year. Secrecy period on a technology. And then after that we can do something with it and, and talk about it and tell the story. So, you know, it's always, it's always fun to go through those periods where like, Oh, thank God we can talk about that now, . Cause you know, we're talking about it internally all the time. And, and you're like, Oh, can we put that in the podcast? I don't know. So, so that, that's what I do now. We, I, I play with bikes basically. [00:06:34] Randall: Very, very cool. And, um, when you talk about the consulting work you do, is this kind of full stack performance consulting, is it very a focused, is it all technical sides, including say, like bearing drag or, or things like this? Is it, um, obviously positioning falls into Arrow Nutrition. Like where, where do you, ooh, where does your domain physiology start? [00:06:57] Josh: And I draw the line at physiology, you know, there's a whole, there, there are people who are, are like my equivalent in that world. And, and my God, I can never even dream to. You know, clean their shoes. So, um, no, you, you need someone to talk physiology, you know, And I'll, I'll pull my phone out and we'll call Allen Li or somebody, you know, Yeah. With a bunch of contacts. But, uh, you know, Alan's one of my favorite go-tos for things like that and be like, Oh dude, I've been over my head help . You know, [00:07:21] Randall: he, he's, um, he's actually been on the pod before, but Craig interviewed him, so I might bring him on in the future to do, you know, my, my more kind of nerdy type of interview. Alan's great. Yeah, no, [00:07:31] Josh: he's, he's a lovely guy. He's a lovely guy. And, and I just love, I mean, he, you know, like I find myself pretty quickly sometimes getting into places where people's eyes just glaze over, like, what the hell is this guy talking about? And, you know, I love that Alan can do that to me in about 30 seconds, you know, we're talking about the stuff that he does. You're like, Oh, whoa, shit, way over my head way. I, I didn't even recognize the last four words that you used in that sentence, . And, uh, so it's, it's awesome to be able to be surrounded by people with that. But no, you know, we. The stuff that they come to us for. I mean, you know, when I left sip and started soak, of course everybody and their brother, you know, came and said, Oh, design us a wheel. I'm like, well, like I can't do that for a couple years. But also I'm kind of just done with that, you know, like I've lived that life. I, you know, it, it was fun. But, you know, we, we continually updated wheels for 15 years, but it, it really is kinda like doing the same thing over and over again, you know? And, and so it just wasn't fun for me. So, you know, they'll come and say, um, you know, help us design this cockpit, or we, we do a lot of, with our, our in-house, uh, 3D titanium printing, we do a lot of custom cockpits for, uh, teams, riders, things like that. You know, where we laser scan the rider, get the position, lock that down to the wind tunnel, design the part, 3D print it, um, you know, stuff like that, that, that's really exciting. We, we'd get a lot of, you know what, um, You know, help us optimize for this time trial at the tour or the Olympics or whatever, where, you know, what tires should we run and we can, we have systems and tools and, and spreadsheets and a million other things that we can, um, Yeah. Help, help them determine. And then a lot of times we, you know, we get companies coming to us, um, really just wanting to know, like, you know, if, like, which of their sponsor products should they use and when should they go off sponsor? You know, you'll see that a lot at like, the tour where, excuse me. Um, you know, like they, they ride the sponsor correct product, you know, 98% of the time, and then they're gonna sneak it in here or there when it's really critical. So, you know, what, what are those really critical points? And then, you know, if, if they're gonna risk getting in trouble or outright get in trouble, like it needs to be worth it, right? And so they might come to us with like, okay, you know, we need. I need a time trial tire for this rider for this day. You know, what should we do? And, and we'll help him with that. But yeah, you know, if you, if you were a, a brand, uh, or a world tour team there, or approach our athlete that wanted to go to the win tunnel, you know, you might pay us to come along. Um, a lot of what I do too is kind of fun is just act as like a fly on the wall in these team to sponsor interactions. You know, I think I was probably at half a dozen wind tunnel tests last year where I really had pretty much nothing to contribute other than being the neutral third party in the room, um mm-hmm. you know, so that everybody was comfortable that everybody was. Comfortable . [00:10:26] Randall: Well, I would imagine there's a mix of the, uh, the political, if you're talking about, you know, what should be using our own sponsors gear versus slipping something else in all the way to, um, balancing the competing goals of say, like comfort and pure power output on the bike versus aerodynamics. Um, if you're talking about a time trial position. Yeah. [00:10:47] Josh: Oh yeah, for sure. And, and I think even down to, you know, and I think as much as we love to talk science and testing and, and try to be as scientific as possible, I mean, this stuff is really, it's emotionally hard. It's politically hard. It's, you know, companies will bring new equipment in, they're with their engineers. I mean, those guys and girls want that stuff to work so bad. And you know, sometimes you just see things coming out where, Oh yeah, that's clearly faster. And you're like, Well, actually, the way I would interpret that is it's probably about. The same, um, or mm-hmm. , you know, let's, let's rerun that test or, um, you know, it's always, I don't know, it, it, they, they like, people like to get themselves in these loops where, you know, Oh, we did this and it's 10 seconds faster and it's that, And I feel like back in the, you know, when I was with zip, we did this a lot during the Lance Armstrong area and he was writing our disc and, and we were coming in as consultants for the first probably five tours or whatever. And um, you know, every wind tunnel test you'd get to the end and they would have this chart that's like, we just made him 90 seconds faster. And it's like, look guys, that. There is no 90 seconds faster. I mean, you know? Mm-hmm. like, like that is not gonna happen. You know, you, you just did a whole bunch of stuff that's not sustainable that he can't hold his head like that. Mm-hmm. that helmet tails gonna come off the back, you know, I mean, cuz he, people do things like, Oh, oh, the helmet tail moved, rerun. You're like, Yep guys, when you ride in the real world, like the tail's gonna move. Like you don't, you know, people like to, they select data, um, without even realize they're selecting data. And so, you know, it is, it's just good always to have a third party in the room. Um, you know, it's kinda like funny story, you know, back to, you know, my zip days, how Firecrest came about, you know, Firecrest was literally the name of the prototype that, that kind of blew all of our minds. And the reason the prototypes had weird bird names was that we had to double blind them across engineers because you just didn't want anybody. Kind of, you know, having an effect on their product, right? I mean, we all, you know, we all fall in love with our children, right? . And, and in this world, like you, you can't love your children. Um, and you have to be willing to kill them when they're not good. And, um, you know, we would do this double blind thing where we would like assign them all a number and then we would assign bird name, these bird names a number, and then we would randomize it and then they would get all put up. And then nobody really knew whose idea was what, when you were in the tunnel. Um, that's necessary, right? Cause you're, you know, you can be your own worst enemy at that stuff. I think we've, you know, we've all been guilty of that a time or two in our lives. But, uh, you see it all the time, particularly in these performance, um, improvement coaching type things where, you know, people just wanna will something into existence even when it's not. Yeah. [00:13:38] Randall: Well, and I can see, um, you know, the marketing oftentimes has it much more, uh, presented, much more like a, you know, this is just, it's physics. It's more, it's more exact, it's more, um, it's more controlled. And, um, there are competing variables, particularly when you have, you know, a monkey in the middle. You have to, this, this, you know, this animal needs to be comfortable. This animal needs to be fueled, This animal needs to be able to control this machine through a varied environment. And that varied environment may be varying in real time if weather changes or things like this. Um, and so there's just all these competing interests. And so when you see, you know, I often laugh at like, You add up all the different arrow benefits that, you know, different companies claim for components and you should be doing. Right. Right. You know, you might be looking at, um, uh, relativistic effects potentially at some of the speeds you'd be able to achieve. Uh, Jen, just like how, how many watts can be saved. Totally. Being a little bit facetious there. [00:14:37] Josh: Yeah. No, no, it's totally true. I mean, and I still have this photo somewhere, I think I even showed it a couple years ago on social media. But as this, this really great photo that I love that ended up, um, on the wall at the Texas A and Wind tunnel, but it's me with next to Lance Armstrong, um, in the, what became the Nike Swift spin suit, um, that had been flown down there from, you know, Seattle. And it's, uh, oh God, the guy in from his book college or whatever he calls him, and then a guy from Nike, so it's the four of us. And I'm kind of standing there like doing, you know, like pointing at something on his back and it, like, a college student took it for the school newspaper and then they had him autograph it and it ended up on the wall. And so like, Oh, that's me. You know, it's kind of funny. But, but the real story there was that suit, you know, they were paying like 3000 bucks a meter for this suit. They'd been putting it on a mannequin in the tunnel. I mean, it was gonna save three minutes per 40 k. And you're just sitting like going, guys, like, I, I mean, just quick doing the math, like three minutes for Lance Armstrong, you know, like the guys already, That's not possible. And, and of course we get it. We put it on him. Um, the whole thing, you know, it, it's, it's cool, it's fancy, it was very red and it does nothing. I mean, it literally, we were, and the Nike people are there and they're like, Oh, that's not possible. It, it can't do nothing like whole. Let's run it again. Okay. Now get 'em out of it. Put 'em in the normal suit. Run that one. You're like, it, it just doesn't do anything. And, and they just kept going. Well run it again. Well do this. Let's, let's close pin it up. Let's tighten it. Let's, do, you know, I mean, I bet we, we lost two hours trying to make that stupid thing look like it would do anything. You know, And again, it's, it's just people being people and we've all done it. But [00:16:21] Randall: I hear like something of stages, of, stages of grief. Like, you have your baby and like first it's denial, and then you, then you have bargaining. Yeah. Yes. Put so much into this. Yeah, that's exactly, [00:16:32] Josh: that is exactly what it is. And, and you know, the, the crazy reality with that one was, you know, three months later at the tour, they launched it anyway, and they said it saved three minutes and he , you know mm-hmm. . And we, we. It, you know, I just had to laugh. I mean, I remember, you know him, you know, winning whatever one of the time, trials by like a minute and like going, No. So Nike's essentially saying he would've lost that time trial by two minutes had it not been, had he not been wearing that suit. Come on guys. Um, yeah. [00:17:00] Randall: Well, and I think that, that maybe that's, um, you know, headline number one from this interview is don't believe everything you read, especially if it's coming from a party, has a financial interest in it. [00:17:10] Josh: That is true. That is true. Yeah. I, I, I tell don't, don't even believe yourself. Right? I mean, truly like you, you are a bad, um, a bad predictor of things and, and you're a bad feeler of things and nobody wants to admit that. Um, but it's just true. You know, that's, I've been preaching that gospel for, for years. But, you know, I mean, 90, I, I would say 90% of the things you. That you feel when you're on your bike. Total, total crap. Um, and, and we know that cuz we, we've done blind testing with riders. I mean, like unbelievable world class rider. And if you blind them to what they're actually riding, they can't tell you almost any Yeah. Um, you know, all that perception, but still, but the stories away, the [00:17:56] Randall: stories we tell ourselves are powerful. There is a strong placebo effect. Oh, for sure. Uh, for sure. But it has to be acknowledged that that is the placebo. And if you actually had those beliefs about things that had genuine benefits, you would get both, You would get the actual [00:18:11] Josh: benefits. Yes. The, the most powerful thing in the world is a placebo that actually works. Right. , where you get, it's like a, it's a double whammy benefit. Um, and so yeah. That, that's where, you know, I mean, in a nutshell that's a lot of what, you know, I've made my career doing right, is trying to help, help sway people towards the, the, the placebos that, that actually do have a, a, a benefit for them. [00:18:34] Randall: So this has the conversation going in a slightly different direction than I was anticipating, which I'm really enjoying. So I've been, I've been diving into this lecture series from this guy Robert Sapolsky at Stanford. It's on, um, the, uh, uh, behavioral biology, and it's looking at all the different ways in which studies go wrong. And so there's like, you know, beliefs about something, uh, for a long period of time, you know, eminence, people in the field, uh, promulgate these, you know, these ideas. And then it's shown that, you know, the study was, was not, uh, taken, uh, done properly or what have you. And so I'm curious, let's dive more into things that go wrong in the study of aerodynamics and, um, maybe kind of the edge of, say, human performance where interfaces with aerodynamics [00:19:17] Josh: Hmm, ooh. Interest. So, I mean, a, a good. I would say career defining for me, example of that was, um, you know, we, from like 2009 to 2012, we were really all in on developing, uh, CFD for the, for bicycle wheels. And it, it just wasn't working right. Everybody was talking about it and showing papers, and, but I mean, it just, the reality was like the CFD just never looked like the wind tunnel. The curve shapes were different. The data was, we're, we're talking It [00:19:47] Randall: wasn't mid, mid [00:19:48] Josh: nineties, right? Oh, no, Mid, mid late two thousands. Yeah. Like mid, late, late [00:19:53] Randall: thousands. Okay. Yeah. And you're not using, you're having to develop something ground up or you're having to, uh, adapt something from Desso or, or one of these bigger [00:20:02] Josh: vendors. Yeah, So I think the question at the time was, you know, how do you, how do you really properly model the spinning wheel in, in flow that's also translating, right? And you look at. You know, all the CFD stuff with aircraft, um, you know, there's no rotational flow, you know, and then you look at, there's special models that people have built to look at, like, um, turbine jet, turbine engine combustion or whatever. But those are incredibly unique. And they're also, you know, there's RO flow rotating, but in a different access and Yeah. [00:20:36] Randall: The F1 guys perpendicular access. [00:20:38] Josh: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so, and then you got the F1 guys who weren't really modeling, um, they were modeling the rotation of the wheels, but they were doing it by modeling a rotational component at the surface of the tire. So you were, you weren't essentially like spinning the wheel, you were just saying, Oh, there's a induced rotation a about this surface. Um, which has been in the, the solvers forever. So [00:21:02] Randall: in interesting, this is taught because the, those wheels are traveling so quickly, especially the top of the wheel. If you're doing 200 miles an hour, the top of the tire is traveling at 400. And so you're having sign significant turbulence at that interface, right? Well, [00:21:15] Josh: and you, you have like Magnus effect, right? You're actually getting pressure differential top to bottom, um, you know, from , the direction of the wheel spinning. And so, you know, we, we could do stuff like that pretty accurately, right? You know, you could look at the, you know, a rotating baseball and, and predict the direction that's gonna curve. I mean, things like that were possible. But, you know, every single, and, you know, my God, I used to get, I still do occasionally, but I, I used to probably get 20 PhD papers a year from kids all over the world. Um, you know, Oh, what do you think of my paper on, you know, CFD of bicycle wheel? And we're like, Oh, it's beautiful pictures, but your data's crap. Um, . And it just wasn't figured out. And, and in 2009, I, I met a guy, Matt, uh, Godo, who's a triathlete, but he also worked for a company called FieldView. And they had built all of the CFD automation for, uh, Red Bull F one, um, and probably half the F1 grid, but his, his big account was Red Bull. Um, and he, I met him at Interbike and he had a paper that he was working on. He said, I think, I think I might have figured this out, but I really need to be able to like, Like, build a wind tunnel in the computer and then look at it so we can directly compare them back and forth. And, and so we, we did that. We published a paper at the a I a, which was at MIT that year, and it went over really well and people liked it. And we published another paper the next year, um, at, at the a i A conference. And that went well. And then we got this big grant, like an $80,000 grant from Intel, um, to really tackle this problem. Cause the, the head technologist at Intel at the time was a guy, uh, Bill Fry Rise, and one, one of the coolest guys I ever met. Um, you know, the kind of guy who, whose resume just has like a five year period that says like Los Alamos , like, [00:23:01] Randall: okay, you're cool. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Not, not allowed to talk about it. What do you do? Yes. Uh, yes, exactly. . But, [00:23:08] Josh: uh, but he was a cyclist and he was some senior, somebody at Intel. And, and, um, And they, they gave us this money and we, we, we really went hard at this and we ended up developing a, essentially all of the little nuance details. Uh, we did it in star ccm. We post processed it in field view. I think we processed it on like a thousand cores, which for 2010 was, you know, a lot. Right. [00:23:33] Randall: Um, and these are, these are, um, CPUs and not GPUs for that era. Right. A lot of the stuff of that era GPUs now, right? [00:23:40] Josh: Yeah. Yeah. I remember we, yeah, I mean, that was the beginning of, uh, that was the beginning of the cloud. It was pretty cool, like 2008, 2009, people were still traveling. I remember at one point in that process there was discussion that like, we might have to travel, um, to, Oh God, what is it? The, the university over there in Illinois had a huge, had like a 1200 core machine and they're like, Okay, we, we might have to go there and, and buy, you know, two days of time. And then as that was happening, cloud. Kind of the beginnings of cloud was there. And I remember we, we met a guy who had a cloud thing, and they had just been bought by Dell. And, uh, we were at a conference and he's like, Oh, no, you know, with our, our thing, What was that called? But, uh, with our thing, you, you can just do it like up in the ether. We're like, Whoa. You had never heard of that before. Yeah. Um, it was just exciting times and, and, uh, but, but we, you know, had this great team. We pulled it together. I mean, that's really where Firecrest came from, right? It was, it was largely designed using, um, Hundreds of iterations of capes predicted to be fast, uh, using this cfd. And, and ultimately we won. We, we became like, I think the first non university and non-governmental group to ever win a, uh, uh, innovation excellence award from the Supercomputing Society. So it was pretty cool. Salt Lake City's like this huge super computing conference and you know, it's like darpa, this and university of that. And it was like these four guys from this bike brand and, you know, was, uh, it was a pretty cool experience. But, but in that, so that's like a huge tangent. No, [00:25:17] Randall: no, this is, this is great. And, and just to take a, uh, stop for a second, CFD computational Fluid Dynamics software that is used to model complex multi-variate systems where there's second order effects and, you know, fluids and, and things like this. So anyone who's not, uh, who's not with us on that, like complicated software for complicated system models, in your [00:25:39] Josh: ideal world, it's like a wind tunnel on your laptop, right? In the, in the George Jetson's version of things. It, it's the wind tunnel on the laptop. And in the reality of things, it's kind of more like, eh, it's about as good as guessing most of the time. But, but, but sometimes it's really good at finding certain really specific things. So I won't, uh, I won't knock it too hard, but why the thing I wanna [00:25:59] Randall: dive in a little bit [00:26:00] Josh: here. Oh, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Well, let me, so let me finish the, the thing that we discovered in this process that was super cool. Um, was that once we had all of these transient, we were solving for all these transients, um, and we really started looking at not just like the, you know, the, the side force or the yaw force or you think of um, you know, the whole thing with like wheels and handling, right? This all came out of this project cuz you could, you could predict the steering torque on the wheel, which, you know, none of the balances being used to test wheels at the time even had torque sensing, right? You had drag side force and lift, but none of them had the rotational components in there. And so that for us at first was like, oh shit, we've never thought about torque cuz we weren't measuring it. Right? It's sort of one of those, yeah, like you've biased your study all along, but then the big one was looking at the predicted, um, data and there were all of these, uh, harmonic effects. and we kind of looked at each other and we're like, Oh my God, every wind tunnel you've ever been in, Right? The first thing everybody discusses is, you know, what's the, what's the, the time across which you're taking the data and at what frequency? And then you're averaging that data, right? Cuz we're all after a data point. And you could look at the tunnel data and the CFD data, and when you pulled them out of their point form into their wave form, essentially you could see the harmonics kind of lined up, the frequencies match when, oh shit, we've been averaging out a really important piece of data for 30 years. You know, this harmonic thing is big. Like what's your, [00:27:39] Randall: your standard? So it's operating on a, it's operating on a frequency that is smaller than the sample rate. Or how [00:27:46] Josh: was it essentially? Essentially we were just idiots and we were just, we were just time averaging the all of that out. Right. I mean, it's, you know, if you need to Okay. Any wind tunnel you, you went to in the world and be like, Oh, well, we'll take, we here, we take data for 30 seconds at, you know, whatever, a hundred hertz, 60 hertz, 120, or whatever it is, and then we'll, we'll take an average. Oh, okay. That, that's fine. Got it. You're averaging out in there is real, um, uh, like amplitude changes, uh, largely due to vortex shedding is, as it turns out with bicycle wheels. But a lot of that high frequency handling stuff, particularly as wheels get deep, um, , sorry, I'm in, uh, I'm in our studio, which is off of our kitchen and somebody's lunchbox just, just leapt off of the top of the [00:28:34] Randall: refrigerator. Um, yeah, sometimes I'll have a niece or nephew come in screaming, so No worries. Yeah. So, but, [00:28:39] Josh: uh, but no, we, we realized there, there was a, a. About a factor of five difference in amplitude between wheels in terms of that, those oscillating effects. Right. Which typically it's just, it's generally vortex shedding. And the CFD can predict that really well, right? Where your little pressure builds up, sheds off, sets off a counter rotation that sheds off. Um, but as a, as a cyclist, you, you feel that as the wheel, you know, kind of oscillating left to right. Um, and we, and let's, let's for 20 years, you know, [00:29:12] Randall: Yeah. So you're just taking the, the lump, you know, 30 seconds averaged out data and saying, Okay, it gives you this amount of benefit and you're not seeing those. Um, I mean, really what we're talking about is, uh, you know, instability that may. Or, you know, otherwise result in, in control issues on the bike. And I want to take a moment to just like, define some terms, uh, because not, you know, many of our listeners are not overly technical. Um, but uh, I think some of these concepts are easy enough to get your head around, like, so, you know, describe at a very high level you're talking about vs. So, you know, maybe describe lader flow and flow attachments and vortices sheddings. How, how does this, how does this, uh, how can you understand this without a, a technical background? [00:29:59] Josh: Oh, those are awesome questions. Okay. So Lader LaMer flow is kind of what you. What the, the world wants you to think of in the wind tunnel. You see the wind tunnel picture and they've got like the, the 10 lines of smoke and they're all kind of flowing together cleanly and beautifully. That's, that's meant to, to evoke lam or flow, right. That if you were to drop a, a smoke or a particle in there, that they would all flow in lamini, you know, like sheets of paper. Um, yeah. Uh, so, so [00:30:29] Randall: it's going in a straight line. Smooth, [00:30:31] Josh: controlled, Predictable, yeah. Flow. And it, it follows the contours of the thing that it's flowing against. So, [00:30:38] Randall: so kinda like water flowing down a river sort of thing. It's not perfectly laminate, but it's all going roughly in the same direction. And there's not a lot of water [00:30:46] Josh: in a pipe disturbance, you know, would be in a pipe better example, presumably pretty laminate, right? And then you start to add stuff, you know, water in the river. Now you're, you're, you know, you've got a rock and now all of a sudden there's a disturbance and it starts to swirl. Um, and so you, you get into, you know, more complicated types of flow. I, I think the, the big ones, you know, for us to think about are, you know, most, so most drag that we deal with comes from, um, uh, pressure related things. So you either have like the, the high pressure on the front of the rider, right? The wind that you're pushing into this when you stick your hand out the car window, right? The mm-hmm. the air you feel hitting your hand, you know, that's, uh, that's a pressure drag, uh, in the positive direction. And then you have the flow, the vacuum in the back. Yeah. The flow will detach off of the object and that'll create a vacuum behind. And so that's a suction drag, um mm-hmm. . And then when you have something like vortex shedding, it's when, uh, the, the. Description I ever have for vortex sheddings. If you've ever driven an old car with, uh, like the metal antenna on the hood, you know, at some speed on the highway, that antenna starts vibrating, oscillating sideways, which is like the last thing on earth you think it would do, right? Like your brain's like, well, it should just keep bending backwards with speed. Mm-hmm. , why is it going sideways? Well, that's that you get this thing where you have a little, uh, a little curl of flow will kind of detach more on one side than the other, and that creates a side force. Mm-hmm. . But in doing so, the suction that that has now left behind will pull a similar vortex from the opposite side. Mm-hmm. . And that creates an opposite side force. And so you get these, see an oscillation, you get these oscillations and uh, you know, that's, it's huge in architecture and mm-hmm. , it, it's why you see so many of those super tall buildings or kind of have pyramid shapes or might have some sort of like, feature that spirals down them to, to kind of break that up. I, I live [00:32:46] Randall: in Boston. We actually have, um, a skyscraper here that was flexing so much, the windows were popping out. This is, you know, decades ago. And, you know, it's still, you know, they have this like funnel of air that's going through there and just the nature of the shape of it and how air gets funneled in, it was causing enough torsion to, um, you know, cause window de bonding. Um, so yeah. That's crazy. Uh, so then, you know, think applying this to the bike and particularly a wheel, um, you know, this is the biggest effect is, is presumably your front wheel where you're having this oscillation, this shift in pressure from one side to the other at a very high, high level, um, that's causing instability. It's making it so that you may lose control of the bike. It's not predictable. [00:33:34] Josh: Yeah. Correct. Correct. And, and the, the other thing we learned through CFD that it was doing, which is not obvious until you think about it, but so you think of the. So you might have, say it that the trailing edge of the front half of the rim, you're, you, you set up a little vortex shedding situation. Mm-hmm. . Um, and so you've got a little side force, but it's kind of at the, the trailing edge of the rim there. Right? So it's got a little bit of leverage on your steering, but the other thing that's happening is that alternating attachment and detachment of flow, um, changing the side force, but you're a side force at an angle. So there's a lift component, right? Which is how the drag is being reduced. And as that happens, what, what's also now changing is what we call like the center of pressure. And the center of pressure. You think of like the wheel from the side, like, like the sum, the aggregate of all the, the arrow forces on that has a center point about which it's balanced. It's kinda like a center of mass. Um, you know, so it's, it'd be center of pressure. Well, that center of pressure when you have. Shedding happening somewhere that's now moving forwards and backwards and very [00:34:40] Randall: rapidly [00:34:41] Josh: as well. Potentially, Yeah. Rather rapidly. I mean, and, and when you really look, look in on it, it, the frequency actually can be quite close to, um, the, uh, speed wobble frequency, right? Which is somewhere in that like three to four hertz range. Uh, which also happens to be really close to the frequency of human, uh, shivering, which is kind of cool's why you're more likely to, to speed wobble when you're really cold. Um, [00:35:05] Randall: and not everyone just push will have experienced speed wobble. But if, you know, if this is basically your, you, you hit a certain resonant frequency of, of the frame based on the frames geometry, uh, the head tube angle, the what are the factors that go into that, [00:35:20] Josh: Uh, it's top tube stiffness is big and so, yeah. Yeah. And it's actually this speed wobble's. Interesting. It's. It starts as a residency issue, but it's really a, it's a hop bifurcation and, um, a hop B. Okay. And so, yeah. And so what you have in a hop, uh, bifurcation is you essentially have two st two stability, um, would be the best way to think of it. And you are jumping from the one to the other. And so like, right up until that, so the [00:35:48] Randall: system wants to be in one state or the other, but not in the middle [00:35:51] Josh: and there's no middle. Right. And, and what's, what's so cool, like, like early in, um, uh, early in covid, you know, we were all talking about this, you know, what is it the are not value, the, you know, like if it's above or below one. And when you, you line that out that are not, when are not crosses one, it's a hop bifurcation that looks just like the speed wobble, bifurcation, I mean the graph. It's amazing how like, cool those things, you know, mathematically you're like, Oh yeah, that's exactly the same as this. It's just here, it's in a, you know, you get the exact same graph if you're looking at, um, Uh, wing flutter in an aircraft, uh, in the wing tunnel. Mm-hmm. , similar bifurcation problem, but yeah. So you, you, you have essentially two states and the system can get tripped from one end into the other. And in the one the bike is stable and wants to go straight, and in the other it wants to oscillate because each oscillation mm-hmm. is setting up the, the counter oscillation. Um, and so like, it, it's, you know, in resonance it's more of like a runaway you, you think of like the, how that's tradition. Yeah. It amplifi forcing. Yeah. It, it just keeps growing and growing and growing. Um, and in this one it just, it, it, it's not growing and growing, but it just trips you into this spot where like it's really bad. Um mm-hmm. and it will just shake the crap outta you at the front end. And um, and in fact motorcycles quite [00:37:07] Randall: scary. The high performance motorcycles will sometimes have a steering damper for this very reason. Um, because you'll, yeah, you'll get these speed wobbles. And so the damper is essentially making it so there's some exponentially increasing resistance. Um, I, I know you know this, I'm explaining it for our, our audience just in, you know, cause again, I wanna keep bringing it back down to earth, but, you know, having just like your, your suspension, you don't just have a a just a spring, you have some sort of damping circuit so it doesn't feel like a pogo stick. Um, which is a related effect. Um, but, uh, very cool. And are not for our listeners as well. [00:37:47] Josh: Funny. I hadn't thought about that. I haven't thought about that in like two years as we were talking like, Oh, I remember now. That was, uh, yeah. Yeah, that was, uh, But what or not was the, um, Oh shit. It was the. The contagion ratio or whatever, like how, how many people, each person would transmit to mm-hmm. And so if it's, which makes sense, right? If every person's gonna transmit it to 1.1, it grows. If you're gonna transmit it to 0.8, it, it dies. Um, [00:38:12] Randall: so the analogy here is that, that the increasing amplitude of that, you know, those pressure differentials, sending it to the, the system to one state or the other and causing that increasing oscillation, Is that a exactly correct characterization? [00:38:26] Josh: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like you, you can take it right up to a line, um, and you don't have a problem. And then as soon as you cross the line, you're in a different state. Mm-hmm. . And, and that's where I think, you know, speed wobble for those of you who've experienced it or chase tried chasing it on a bicycle, um, you can solve it sometimes with like, the stupidest stuff. Um, you know, one of the, the common ones is to just put a little bit of like, um, like, like a heavier bar tape or a little bit of lead weight in like your, um, Uh, your plugs. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . You can oftentimes change it with a tire pressure or a different tire cuz you can add just enough damping at the contact patch. Um, that it just pushes it up high. You know, if, if, cause typically what people will find is like, Oh, it's, I'm totally fine. Then I hit, you know, 38.5 miles an hour and all hell breaks loose. Well. Mm-hmm. , you change the mass at the top of the system a little bit and maybe you've now pushed that point out to 45 miles an. but if you never go 45 miles an hour, you've affected, that's not a problem. Right? Yeah, yeah. Like, oh yeah, I [00:39:28] Randall: fixed it. I think another example that people may have experienced too is like, uh, sometimes you'll have an issue with your car that, you know, won't notice except that certain speeds and it's because of those speeds. There is some, you know, oscillation that's happening. If it's a tire and balance or something in your drive train or the like. Um, you know, I've, I once had a vehicle that was really good up to 60 and then like 60, 61, it was problematic and then it would smooth out a bit after that and it was just like this wobbling effect that would balance out beyond that, that speed. Um, alright, so then bringing things back down to earth. Um, this is delightful by the way. I, I could do this all day, . Um, and I, I hadn't quite appreciated. Um, the, the basic r and d and like basic science and tool building that you were involved in. Uh, so. That's, its its own topic. That's probably not one for, for a podcast of this particular [00:40:22] Josh: def. Yeah. I, I will say on that, I think that's the part that I think never, you know, the marketing never really tells that side of the story cuz it's just too complicated. Yeah. But if you're, if you're out there and you're, you're into this stuff, like that's the fun stuff. Like, I love launching product and, and the product itself. But like, that crazy journey to get there is usually like, that's where all the fun is happening. And, and, and typically cuz we're, you know, you're doing it wrong, like 90% of the time you're like, you know, it's just can be months or years of like, we suck, you know, this doesn't work, we're getting our sasses kicked. And then you, you know, if you persevere long enough, you will come out the other end and it's like, wow, we, we needed all that stuff. Like, we needed to get our heads handed to us over and over again, or we never would've figured this stuff out. Um, Yeah. I really, really enjoy that part of, um, of, of technology development or whatever you wanna call it. [00:41:16] Randall: Yeah. Basic, like real basic r and d right down to building the tools that you need to do the r and d you want to do, um, Right. . Yeah. Very cool. And obviously like the compute power and the, the algorithms available and, you know, the switch to GPUs and all these other things that have, um, changed since you were developing that make it such that today's models are both vastly more powerful and still yet trivial in complexity relative to the system itself. [00:41:44] Josh: Yeah, totally. [00:41:46] Randall: Yeah. Um, well let's dive into some more practical topics. So let's talk about like, alright, so a lot of our listeners we're the Gravel Ride podcast, right? So thinking about that particular experience, um, what should, what are, what is worth, um, a gravel rider thinking about. Uh, with relation to arrow. Uh, so things that can be done that will improve aerodynamics, but then not take away from the ride experience that a lot of riders are after, particularly when they're going to grab, you know, they wanna be comfortable, they wanna have a good time, they wanna have good control over a variety of different terrain and so on. So what are the arrow? Um, and, and they don't wanna look silly, so they might not be, want wanting to wear a skin suit or something like that. Not that it looks silly, but, but you know, a more, a more serious enthusiast type of rider. Uh, what are the Yeah, what are the things to think about? [00:42:36] Josh: Oh, gosh. That's, that's a good question. Um, I mean, I think it really depends on, on what. Th the particular rider, you know, is after, I mean, are you, are you racing? Do you wanna go fast? Do you wanna not get dropped? Mm-hmm. , um, you know, do you need to carry stuff? I mean, I would say one of, one of the big ones that I, I just see and, and you know, we, we make a ton of stuff in our company and one of, one of them being bags. And, you know, we're constantly accused of not making bags that are big enough. And so I've been on this mission for a couple years of like, you know, what is in there, , Like Really? Mm-hmm. what's in there. Yeah. And it is amazing to me just how much crap people are carrying. You know, you, you open some of these monster seat bags, it's like, man, just because you bought it doesn't mean you need to fill it or use it. Um, you know, it, and, and absolutely there's, there's like time and place for it. But, um, you know, I. Some of the stuff like that, like, Oh, okay. You've, you know, do you, you show up on the local gravel right here and you know, people look like they're, they're almost like bike packing, like mm-hmm. , you just don't need, you know, it, it's a 40 mile loop, you know, that starts and ends at a bike shop. Like, you, you don't need to bring a bike [00:43:49] Randall: shop with you. Well, you, you need your coffee grinder, you need your, your mini stove and you need your neuro press. Yeah, Yeah. Um, different experience. You know, let's assume that we're going after like a performance rider who's, um, like doing, doing, you know, a hundred, uh, a hundred mile events than they're, they're training for it and they wanna squeeze out more performance, um, out of their existing setup. Or they're considering, you know, what bike to get, what wheels to get, what, um, how to set it up, even considering bike fit. Yeah. Or, you know, clip on arrow bars and the, like, what are the different things that people can do and what are the compromises and so on. [00:44:24] Josh: Yeah. I mean, the, I, I think certainly for gravel. The one clear cut, no compromise. Better all around product that I can just always recommend is like a, an arrow top drop bar. I mean, it is amazing how much faster those things are than round section bars. I mean, any really, you know, like pro vibe or the zip fuca or whatever, you know, there's, I think every company makes one. It's that big, you know. Oh, it's hu I mean it like wind tunnel speeds. It's a flattop bar can be like 28 to 30 watts. I mean, it's nuts. Yeah. Cause you're, you're replacing round covered in tape with something that's like pretty thin and shaped Well, sure. Or it can be massive, but, but the, [00:45:05] Randall: I didn't, cuz the cross sectional areas is not that big compared to, you know, the rider and the, the rest of the bike and so on. Some [00:45:12] Josh: No, it's, it's, well and in gravel it has the double effect of being, you know, shaped or ized in the direction that is also gonna add compliance, right? Yeah, yeah. And, and comfort. And so you, you know, it's one of the few products I can really look at and go, okay, that thing is more arrow and more comfortable and has more service area for your right. I mean, better all around. Um, that's a pretty easy one to, to go with. And, and similarly, you know, if you've, you've got the money. I mean some of these, the, the integrated cockpit solutions that are out there are even faster, right? Cause it's just even less. Stuff in the wind. Um, so let's talk you, let's [00:45:48] Randall: talk about that. That's big, a big serviceability compromise and, and you know, fit can be a concern with that too cause it's harder to swap components and so on. How much of that is coming from, um, simply not having the cables running into the down tube? Like, can you get the vast majority of those benefits with cables coming out from, say, underneath the bar? If they're tucked in on the bar or even coming out from the bar and dropping underneath the stem into the, the headset from there? [00:46:14] Josh: Yeah. Yeah. My, my rule of thumb for cables that I always use cuz it's so memorable is, um, You know, Greg Lamond versus Fon in the 89 tour time. Mm-hmm. , So 2020 kilometer time trial. Um, the eight second gap, there was more or less equivalent to Fons ponytail, Right. As we, we loved to joke about a cyclist, but was also the equivalent of one number two pencil length worth of cable housing. So, and [00:46:46] Randall: this is, and this is true even if the cable housing is say, in front of the head tube, so it's going to be disturbed by the head tube anyways, cuz you're getting the drag off of it. Be, you see what I mean? Like, so I, I'm trying to hone my understanding of the [00:46:59] Josh: Yeah. I mean, you think, Yeah. So I, I would think, uh, good way to put that would be that, Yeah. Putting, putting a slow. Crappy thing in front of a smooth thing, you're, you're still getting the drag of the slow, crappy thing. Yep. Um, and you may actually be worsening the flow, um, on the arrow thing. So Yeah. Got it. Absolutely. Still, you still have that effect. Um, you know it, and it's hard to say, you know, in some cases, you know, it's, it's close enough or it's just in like the goldilock zone where it's a good distance away where you're like, Ooh, we can kind of make them disappear. And they become, you know, uh, a almost like the cable isn't there, but that's not typically what we see. And typically, you know, you, you throw a bike in the wind tunnel with that and then you rip the cables out and you run it again and you're, every time it's like, Oh shit. Big difference. Difference. You've, in [00:47:50] Randall: terms of watts, like a few watts here, like, so, so the handlebar is the big one, you said as much as 30 watts at wind tunnel speeds, which granted gravel riders generally are, are, we're [00:48:00] Josh: not going that miles an hour. But you, Yeah, you we're out for a long time. Yeah, but you are out there for a long time, so you don't have the speed. But yeah, you, you definitely have the, the, the potential time saving. So, yeah, I, you know, hidden cables. I agree with you. Total pain in the ass. And, you know, my God, I've spent a career working on world tour bikes and, and you know, Ironman, world champion bikes and things like that. And I, I feel everybody's pain, you know, people are always like, Why is the industry doing this to us? Like, like, Well, cuz you want it and cuz it works. I mean there's no, like, it, it's a pain in the ass, but it works. Mm-hmm. . So anywhere you can get rid of cable. get rid of cables, um, you know, skin suit. I have to say not everybody loves it, but man, it can be a huge, huge difference. Uh, I mean, you look at, you know, we were just out at lead, uh, Leadville and Steamboat, and you know, all the top. Guys at Leadville and skin suits now, cuz it, it makes that big of a difference. Um, arrow bars can be huge and, you know, I think that's, that's one I I think everybody's got their own sort of flavor that they like. But, you know, to me, like for gravel, a stubby, a stubby bar that has functional pads mm-hmm. , um, really can be worth it just because it's a different hand position and it, it's enough that it, it's effectively changing your, kind of, your whole torso position and it, it, it's just giving you a, a break all around. Right. It's different pressure points in your shammy for the time that you're using it. It's different, you know, muscles in your back. Um, I think there's a good, this is the, the extent of my physi physiological knowledge, but I, I think it's good to, to mix things up. Um, like that. I, I know a lot of people have kind of gone to these super. Narrow, stubby, I don't even know what you call 'em. Like semia bars that Yeah, [00:49:46] Randall: mini arrow bars. [00:49:48] Josh: Nowhere to put your, nowhere to rest your weight. And, and it just feels like everybody I know using those is constantly complaining about their wrists, you know? Um, and so I, I, again, not a physical, but the change [00:50:00] Randall: in the change in frontal area, um, is that just an unmitigated benefit or are there circumstances where you can reduce frontal area and, you know, have a negative result within the realm of, you know, changing a Roger's position? [00:50:16] Josh: Yeah, you know, a lot of it depends on your, your baseline and, and how good you are. Positionally, I think, you know, when, you know, we do a lot of position training with top athletes and you know, the. The best place you can be that's not an arrow bar is on the hoods with level forearms. Mm-hmm. , right? Like that's the, and and ideally with relatively narrow bars, [00:50:37] Randall: so, and perpendicular upper arms as well, presumably, [00:50:40] Josh: or give or take. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it is, it's, you're gonna roughly get there depending on what the rest of the position looks like and, you know, obviously different body shapes and whatnot. But yeah, I mean, you think horizontal forearms are keeping that pretty much out of the wind. Mm-hmm. , Um, and, and they are also keeping it, it's just hard to hold that position, um, with, in a way that you're also still opening your chest. Because, you know, you were really trying to keep air from getting blocked up under the chest. And when you get a rider doing that, they just always kind of form, which I say always, I'm sure there's some counterexamples out there, but they, they almost always, um, kind of adjust their back and their shoulders in a way that they kind of turtle their head a little bit. You know, the head comes down and you're just kind of now pushing more air up over the body and less down into it. Um, but from there, arrow bars are almost always an improvement, right? Cuz you're narrowing the arms, um, you know, you're tightening things up even further and now you're pushing more flow around the sides, um, and less into the chest and less into the hips. And there's some physiological things. You know, people, you know, wide hips, big hands, certain shoulders, certain back shapes, right? That's why we go to the tunnel, you know, it's, it. 90% of the time, you could look at somebody and go, Oh, do this, this, and that, but man, 10% of the time it looks good and you run it and you're like, That's not good, We can just find a different solution. Um, [00:52:10] Randall: yeah. So air bars are huge. Another thing that we're starting to see is, uh, so BMC has their new cas uh, uh, line. They went with a super narrow, uh, handlebar, so narrow at the hoods, and then, you know, flare at the bottom. Uh, that seems like another thing that again, is, Well, I mean, on the one hand, yeah, you're getting narrower, but on the other hand, you're also closing up the chest and maybe, you know, you're not getting as much oxygen, like air turnover or something. Or like, are there issues where I, so [00:52:38] Josh: I, I have been beating the narrow handlebar drum for 25 years. Um, you know, I am yet to actually see or be told by a real physiologist that that whole. Oxygen lung thing that we were all told as juniors is true, is an issue. Um, yeah, I I've just, yeah, we've just never, I mean that, that I know of and I'm sure somebody out there will say, Oh, here's a paper. But, you know, I, I know whenever we've studied it, looked at it, we've looked at it with athletes, I mean, look at what's happening at the world tour. A lot of that is, you know, we've been beating that drum. I'm starting to see that for years, and people are doing it and they're winning. Um, so, you know, and I wonder [00:53:17] Randall: why aren't we seeing it with extreme flare as well, like a compound flare at least, so that you can still keep a, you know, a reasonably vertical lever position because then you could go even narrower and have, um, still have the leverage for the descending and so on. Is that a [00:53:32] Josh: tradition thing? Yeah, I, yeah, I think some of it's that. I think some of it is just, you know, how far do you really wanna push the uci? Um, [00:53:42] Randall: you know, oh, the UCI cares about the flare in your bars. [00:53:46] Josh: Oh, they will. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I think there are actually rules putting some limits on that, but yeah, at some point it's gonna look funny enough that you're gonna draw attention and they're gonna go, Wait a minute. Um, and, and you know, we've, we've [00:53:58] Randall: seen them, I've got a 28 centimeter wide bar with huge flares on there, and I've got specially made levers that come off of it so that I can actually still touch them from the job. [00:54:07] Josh: We have seen it with, I, I can't remember the name of that bar, but I think it's out of Belgium or something. But it's got like, you know, uh, 180 millimeters of reach, um, super narrow with long, and you can kind of lay your forearms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing that and they quickly were like, Nope, that's out. Um, so I, you know, I think we just, people are, people are cautious. I think the, the setups that are working now, um, are very largely built around that, uh, three T track bar. I can't remember what it's called, but, uh, I know. You know, it's got that kind of cool like wing, like gulling shape to it, but it's super narrow, arrow tops, um, relatively vertical, uh, drops. But, but that's a bar that the ucis allowed for years, right? And so I think that as a, you know, when, when conversations are happening behind closed doors, that's the kind of thing of like, Oh, well this looks enough like that, that if they call us out, we, we go in there and be like, Well, it looks a whole lot like this thing that you've allowed for 20 years. Um, you know, we, we have tons of those conversations. Yeah. So, so I, you know, I, I think, but I, I will say, I, I think too, that's where, um, you know, a lot of people might look at the pro tour and things that they're writing. Oh, well if this worked, they'd use it. You know? I mean, that was what people told us when we were building zip in the early days. Well, if they worked, the Pro Pros would ride it. I'm like, Yeah, but they. They don't know what they're, they don't believe in aerodynamics. You know, they, the pros, they don't riding [00:55:34] Randall: super skinny tires at super high pressures cuz they felt faster for a long time, even though, you know, at least, well, you know this better than than I do. I mean, the data has been saying for quite some time that it's more efficient. Never mind the accumulated fatigue that you get when your body's just being, you know, rattled at, you know, high frequency over the course of many hours. [00:55:56] Josh: Yeah, yeah. No, it's, you know, that I would say they're quite often the last, at least as a group to change. Right. But you, you are seeing it now. I mean the, you know, and, and, and you know, the team like Nios hiring a guy, hiring Dan Bigham to come in and, you know, you, you are seeing some changes, right? Uh, that when teams are bringing full-time people like that in, um, we are gonna start moving the needle there, but it's still a delicate dance with the. With the UCI and, and all the sport governing bodies, right? Nobody, You hear it all the time. Nobody wants a repeat of the whole fna. Uh, I don't follow swimming, but I was the technical, uh, committee director for cycling at the World Federation of Sporting Good Industries. And, uh, at the time when FNA Band banned all of the super tight, uh, swimming suits, and it was just a cluster, right? I mean, they just came out and said, Nope, you've pushed it too far. We're done. And if the whole industry was sideways with like, we've invested millions of dollars in this and the records are breaking, and people wanted and on and on and on, and they just said, Nope, you're done. And, uh, I think it took them five years to under undo all that damage. You know, I mean, you just wanna [00:57:11] Randall: something parallel with running too with, uh, carbon fiber insoles and like what is, what is allowed in terms of the amount of spring that can be delivered and so on. Um, Yeah, I, I see, I see them showing up on my local run. And, um, I might have to get a set just to keep up with the people I used to beat, to keep up with [00:57:29] Josh: It's totally true. [00:57:31] Randall: Uh, that's, I mean, that's, that's, to some degree, that's the nature of the game. And that's why in, in significant part, that's why the gear is as good as it is right now is because, you know, people are looking for, as you would say, those marginal gains. Um, yeah. Um, I wanna dive in. So, uh, I want to put, bring in a few, uh, listener questions. Uh, so we posted in the ridership that you were gonna be coming on, and so we had some folks asking questions there. Probably the biggest one that came up was, um, talking about, you know, we've, uh, Craig and I brought up the rule of 1 0 5 or 5% on the podcast before, but, you know, citing, citing it, it's not a deep understanding, uh, at all. So tell us about how that emerged in. How it applies. Um, you know, particularly in the gravel scene where you're looking at tires that are much bigger. Um, and I mentioned, uh, earlier that, you know, specialized as a video for their reval wheels where they're running a a 42 mill tire on i, I think a 35 or less external rim, and they're claiming some arrow benefit. Does that seem plausible? Is there, uh, given, given, given what you have seen in the wind tunnel and in your modeling? [00:58:41] Josh: Yeah. Um, yeah, it's totally plausible and I guess, we'll, we'll start with rule of one. Oh, so rule 1 0 5 was really, you know, I, I realized pretty early in my career that you had to come up with sort of rules of thumb for things or nobody would listen to you Mm-hmm. and, you know, spent two years traveling Europe trying to sell Arrow. Sell World Tour or pro tour at the time, uh, directors and team owners on aerodynamics and you know, I mean literally got thrown out of every single team, team over there. Uh, I mean, it was just, we just got laughed out of the room. Just imagine [00:59:20] Randall: any of those team directors could have just adopted it at that time and had this huge advantage and didn't, [00:59:26] Josh: uh, that was, I mean, I always said, you know, Uli at srm, thank God, you know, he was developing his thing. And when I walked in to pitch Reese, um, he was alrea
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In episode 9 of TPR I chat with Francesco who is one of three owners of the new premium cycling shoe on the World Tour - Nimbl. Fran worked for Cervelo for 17 years and is now applying his knowledge and experience towards cycling shoes. Nimbl are quickly making a mark on the World Tour with many of the world's best riders racing in their shoes today. Fran explains the history of Nimbl and how they apply their knowledge and expertise to making one of the worlds finest shoes. Fran also explains how the operations of a cycling shoe manufacturer work and how the famous Boa dial company Boa Fit, chooses you, and not the other way around. If you enjoyed this episode please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or leaving a rating with Spotify. - - - The Press Room Podcast is presented by Zwift. Head to www.zwift.com to get your 7 day free trial. The Press Room Podcast is supported by Attaquer, the official apparel partner of the podcast. Use the code CR-THEPRESSROOM for 15% off Attaquer products at https://attaquercycling.com/ The Press Room is also supported by Smith Optics. www.smithoptics.com If you enjoyed the episode please leave a review or a rating on your podcast player. - - - TPR x Attaquer Zwift Group Ride - Join here: https://www.zwift.com/events/tag/thepressroom TPR Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thepressroompodcast/ TPR Twitter https://twitter.com/jethro_nagle TPR Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFT_W4qMStQ&t=140s AusCycling ESports Series w/ TPR Commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDCiBadkpmk&t=2506s
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This week we have the pleasure of speaking with Anne Hed, CEO of HED Cycling. HED has been a pioneer in carbon wheels and aerodynamic carbon components for as long as I can remember. It was amazing to hear about how long HED has been thinking (and producing wheels) for the gravel market. Episode Sponsor: Hammerhead Karoo 2 (promo code: TheGravelRide) HED Cycling Support the Podcast Join The Ridership Automated Transcription, please excuse the typos: Anne Hed [00:00:00] Craig Dalton: Hello, and welcome to the gravel ride podcast, where we go deep on the sport of gravel cycling through in-depth interviews with product designers, event organizers and athletes. Who are pioneering the sport I'm your host, Craig Dalton, a lifelong cyclist who discovered gravel cycling back in 2016 and made all the mistakes you don't need to make. I approach each episode as a beginner down, unlock all the knowledge you need to become a great gravel cyclist. This week on the podcast. We welcome Anne head CEO of head cycling out of Minnesota. If you've been around the cycling industry for a while I'm sure you've seen head wheels. They've been around for many, many decades and have been pioneering the use of carbon to go fast for that entire time. Anne's late husband. Steve had an, an founded the company. Out of a bike shop in Minnesota and built wheels to support triathletes in the early days. But have evolved to support all high performing athletes, including gravel, cyclists. We'll get into a little bit about the history of the company. The wheels they produce for the gravel market. And the history of gravel in minnesota. I was particularly amused by one story about Steve head and Gerard from open cycles and how the open cycle up, which has been a pioneering frame set and bicycle in our sport. Might not have come to existence. If it wasn't for a little event out in Minnesota. Before we jump into the conversation. I need to thank this week. Sponsor hammerhead. 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So don't forget to use that promo code, the gravel ride after adding a custom color kit and premium water bottle into your cart with the purchase of her career to. That's hammerhead.io. Would that business behind us let's jump right into my interview with Anne head And welcome to the shelf. [00:03:41] Anne Hed: Oh, boy. I'm so happy to tell everybody this story of head and I'm getting ready to head off to Emporia next week. So it's like perfect timing for this podcast. [00:03:52] Craig Dalton: Yeah, it's so exciting. When I got introduced to you, obviously I'd been around been familiar with the head brand for my entire cycling career. And to hear some of the backstory that I know we'll get into in this podcast about. How early on you've been riding bikes off road. I think it's just exciting to have this conversation and make sure everybody in the gravel cycling communities, aware of the products that you have had in the market and the products that you're continuing to unveil in the model. [00:04:18] Anne Hed: Yes. I'm excited to tell the story. [00:04:21] Craig Dalton: So let's, let's start at sort of the beginning. Just, I know you've been around cycling your whole life and did a lot of events in the triathlon world. So why don't we get a little bit about your backstory, where you're from, because I think it all leads into the head brand and your journey with your late husband. [00:04:37] Anne Hed: Yeah. So I am a resident of Minnesota born and raised here. And I grew up in Duluth where. It was incredibly challenging on a bike. So my first job was a lifeguard. So I came from a swimming background and I had to bike just to get to work. And then I kind of picked up running along the way. And when I was in my early twenties, I saw of course the Hawaiian Ironman. And I thought, well, you know, I'm signed up for college, I've done some classes, but I, I have this dream to go do. So I qualified for Kona in a, in a triathlon, but AI had no money. And I had a, really a heavy bike and a friend said, there's this guy named Steve head. He owns a bike shop called grand performance. I think you should go see if he'll help you. So I literally just walked into a shop and there he was. And I'll never forget it. Like shirtless, grease all over permed, magenta hair. This was in the eighties. Okay. And so, he handed me a hundred dollar check, which didn't bounce for the entry of the Hawaiian Ironman in 1983. So, he also gave me a bike. So I, I headed over there and I, and I was racing and I, I was on a professional team to Mizuno. I, I wasn't winning a bunch of races, but while I was racing, Steve San Francisco Mosher set the hour record on disc wheels, double disc wheels and Steven's background besides owning a bike shop. And having a history lit degree and not an engineering degree he had made skateboards and water skis kind of like in his garage. So he went into a garage with a friend and made a solid disc wheel [00:06:33] Craig Dalton: and what was he making? What kind of a material was he using to make that we all in a garage? [00:06:37] Anne Hed: It was basically fiberglass and foam and he got a friend to machine, some. Hubs or he tore apart a hub and he found an aluminum rim and he glued it together and, and it, it didn't fall apart. He gave it to me and I did some races on it [00:06:57] Craig Dalton: Literally that first wheel. [00:06:59] Anne Hed: It was actually the second, well, the first one went to another friend that helped him. Right. So. So I started writing it and people were just stopping me at races and saying, you know, what is that? And can I have one? And so we made, we made a few more and all of a sudden we're like this, this could actually be a business. So, he, he was able to. Get some more raw materials, but it wasn't enough to do very many. So I saw that there was a triathlon and the first prize was a car. So I went to Brattleboro Vermont in 1984 and lo and behold, I won a car. So I came back to Minnesota and. Went and imagined this is a 21 year old girl that knew nothing about business or anything, walking to banks, asking for some money. And one baker said, what do you have? And I said, I have a car and I have a, I have a bike. Well here, if you give me the title of the car, I'll give you $14,000. That was, that was a lot of money was still is a lot of money. So. Got the money and I gave it to Steve and, you know, we were kind of dating. So, so between, you know, his amazing creative brain and my earnings of that car, that's how head cycling started [00:08:28] Craig Dalton: Amazing. And was it, did Steve always and yourself, did you have an orientation around building products around speed? I know you said he was inspired by seeing saying Moser's world record with full, full disc wheels. Was that the orientation, like let's make a fast aerodynamic wheel. [00:08:49] Anne Hed: oh yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, Steven just. Italian products to and racing. And it was Francisco Mosher and, and he was just a fan of all types of cycling. But it think from the infancy, it's always been how to make an affordable product that is fast and aerodynamic that, that a lot of people can use. And so that's really still the. The premises of why we make certain products is we want them and everybody to just enjoy cycling and have the experience of speed and, and have it still affordable. [00:09:28] Craig Dalton: And when you started out with the disc wheel, did you then move to a spoke to. [00:09:32] Anne Hed: Yeah. Cause of course, you know, you can't use a solid disc wheel on the front. So, he again sat together with a few folks and, and designed the toroidal air shaped front wheel that is still patented to this day. So we had an extension to the patent, but it's, it's, it's predominantly what you see. All lot of the other wheel companies making it's a 60 millimeter carbon air, full shaped wheel. And like I said, we were pretty much first to the market on that. And we were able to figure out how to continue to make a product super fast. So that was in 1992. [00:10:18] Craig Dalton: Okay. [00:10:19] Anne Hed: I'm sorry, 1990. We had hoped to get more of the aerodynamic aspect ratios from our patent, but the three spoke wheel that DuPont had invented back then got some in and we eventually then did buy that wheel in that patent because we knew how fast it was [00:10:39] Craig Dalton: And have you been continuing to manufacture the wheels in Minnesota throughout that whole. [00:10:44] Anne Hed: Yeah. I mean, you know, once, once in 84, 85, when we started having more phone calls and people calling off from all over the world, and I don't, you know, depending on how some of the listeners there was fax machines that a lot of the orders had to come through. So we actually found a house in 1987 that allowed us to live there and work in a group. Next to it. And the, the wheels just kept evolving and they were made in, in a garage, in, in white bear. Obviously we've moved since a few times since then, but it was, it was a pretty funny story. I mean, north wind would come through and we used to heat it with a wood-burning stove. And if the wind was too strong, we had to, we had to stop making wheels that day. I mean, this is, this is in the eighties. So it's been a long time. [00:11:34] Craig Dalton: Yeah, no. And it's, I mean, it's real business talk there it's, you know, when you're actually manufacturing things and I think this gets lost on a lot of people, just the sheer complexity of manufacturing, anything let alone something like a bicycle wheel that needs a tremendous amount of precision in order to deliver what it's supposed to deliver. [00:11:53] Anne Hed: Yeah. So we S you know, we introduced that 60 millimeter We'll and then we continued throughout the years adding, you know, your, your 40 millimeter. If it was windy, then we added the 90 millimeter on the front and rear. So the product has evolved throughout the history of head, but you know, it has always been made here in Minnesota. All the carbon products are made here in Minnesota and still are. [00:12:21] Craig Dalton: And at a certain point you expanded to Aero handlebars. If I'm not mistaken and other products like that, that supported the triathlete market. [00:12:29] Anne Hed: Yeah. I mean, we would work with professional cycling teams pretty much from all over the world. And obviously with my background in triathlons, I did continue to do a few iron mans. And then I decided that, you know, Steven, I should eventually get married and, you know, have children and, and but throughout the. Evolution of head, you know, the, the arrow bars were introduced primarily because we saw a need for speed up there. You know, the Scott handlebars that Boone Lennon invented also in the eighties, you know, weren't, weren't carbon, you know, they were aluminum kind of . So we signed need to add aerodynamic handlebars to our product. All. [00:13:14] Craig Dalton: And it seems just again from the outside and a fan of the sport that your husband then became sort of the aerodynamics guru for a lot of professional cyclists at some point. [00:13:27] Anne Hed: Yeah, it was, it was amazing because I still look back at those days and we, we were pretty much the pioneers of the, the testing in wind tunnels. So we went back to Texas AMN in the, in the nineties and then on to San Diego to LA they're low speed wind tunnel. We've been in pretty many, several wind tunnels throughout the U S but it is. What is amazing about that part with Steve is it was just the pure desire to help athletes go faster. You know, it was working with a lot of professional cycling. And just individual athletes. And he would come to races with me and Hey, who doesn't want their bike fixed at a racer, you know, some help with your bike. Cause sometimes we'd show up at races and products would be broken because of, you know, flying from across the world. And Steven just always had a toolbox there and a measurement and he would work with, you know, all, all different athletes from all different sports of, of cycling. [00:14:31] Craig Dalton: And so fast forward it a little bit to sort of, to the 2010 era living in Minnesota. All kinds of gravel roads have probably always been a part of your training life. And I think it's fascinating going back to those really early days of let's call it pre the modern gravel bike market, what you were experiencing. Can you just talk about sort of that era and how as bikes evolved and, and events evolved, particularly in Minnesota, some of those events you started thinking about off-road cycling as part of where the, where the brand would ultimately. [00:15:07] Anne Hed: So, where we live is, is in a wooded area that has, oh gosh, maybe 30 miles of gravel, just pretty much or trails out our back door, but Steven's parents actually. I lived on a farm in Canby, Minnesota. And so Steven talked about the dream he used to have of just riding the gravel roads back when he was a younger kid or just experiencing gravel in general. And, you know, I. Would ride hours with Steve and he'd always be, well, let's say it this way. I was worried that he was going to tip or fall or run into something because I knew when he was dreaming or thinking about the next product or, or he was on his bike and he was thinking about, okay, what else. What else would I want to be riding? So I think, you know, it was in his blood. I mean, you know, when you, when you're a farm, your families are farmers from, you know, Minnesota and, and you pretty much live on those roads. It just is part of your life. So. I had to go back into my archives. And we introduced in 2007, what we called the C2 gram, which is a 21 millimeter rim, which, which was quite unusual for back then. And then in 2013, we, we went to 25 millimeters. So we, we were really pioneers in. [00:16:35] Craig Dalton: Perfect. [00:16:37] Anne Hed: alloy in wide wider rims. And that was inspired. You know, one of our, our employees that has been with me for over 26 years, Andy Tettemer, I had to, I had to ask him today and he, he did the first El Monzo in Minnesota in 2008, which is, which is astounding. When I think about it, I mean, I, I can just only imagine, you know, back then, I think he said in 2007, there was 14 gravel writers in that ride. And look where it's come now, [00:17:11] Craig Dalton: It's incredible. Yeah. It's, it's, it's interesting. When you look at whether it's the grass opera series here in Northern California, that's been going for 30 years or, or events like that that were predated any of the equipment that we kind of probably take for granted at this point. [00:17:27] Anne Hed: Yeah. And, and Steven and, and Gerard did an El Monzo in 2013 and [00:17:35] Craig Dalton: And that's a Gerard from open cycles. [00:17:38] Anne Hed: yes, yes, that's, that's who it is. And so, I remember like it was yesterday, you know, fiddling around with their bikes, trying to get everything sorted, wondering what they were going to carry, you know, for water and, and. And, and food. And, and I just remember like the night before Girard and Steve were just trying to figure out and piece together, their bikes and Steven had a local frame builder, peacock Grove, Eric Noren build him a gravel bike because he just couldn't find anything here or you know, around that he wanted to ride. So that first ride that they did together was back in 2013. [00:18:19] Craig Dalton: And where do you recall? Were there certain things in bicycles that he wasn't finding that he had to ask for that custom bike to be built around? [00:18:27] Anne Hed: You know, it was just, you know, everything from being able to have the tire with that he needed, you know? And he, he wanted a certain weight. Well, we call it the triple crown. So it was the headset area where he wanted to be sitting up in a certain area. You know, it was just the geometry of the frame that was. Not available. I mean, it was, everything was custom made for Steve on that bike. And then of course after Steve's passing Gerard decided to use some of that inspiration for the open and that first bike that Gerard may. It was like, I call it the chocolate brown color. And he, of course in memory of Steve did a limited edition of which he sent me one. And obviously, I, I won't, I w I wasn't able to write it just because I'm five one. And so I gave it to my daughter and she'll be riding it in Emporia, Kansas next week. [00:19:28] Craig Dalton: And it's amazing how the thought process around that bike and ultimately what they arrived at with the original open up is still state-of-the-art and progressive across anything you can find in the gravel market today. [00:19:42] Anne Hed: It's it's a beautiful bike and all of the. The frames that, that Gerard has done have been, you know, pretty much state-of-the-art and, you know, besides that frame and the technology that it's brought, you know, it's also been able to experience just, you know, the six 50 B market also. So, our, our rims are also six 50 B also. And you know, I can, I can go more. On, you know, what we've evolved since the alloy rims that, you know, Steven was so much a part of it in 2013 and 14 Steven passed away in late 2014. And since then we've brought our gravel wheels into carbon, but we weren't doing any carbon gravel wheels back in 2014. [00:20:34] Craig Dalton: Was that a more of a sort of thought about what the market could bear at that point and the type of riders and that the sort of scale of the number of gravel riders who might be interested in a slightly wider rim at that. [00:20:45] Anne Hed: Yeah, I mean, 2014, you know, we were also the first to market and patented the very first fat carbon rim. So we were really busy in 2013 and 14, a launching that product also. We had gotten a large order from specialized to produce those. And then what also transpired was surveillance came to us and had asked us to manufacture a frame. So, we had never done that before. And this was something intriguing to Steve and myself, just because it was a very complicated one piece carbon frame. And Steven was working tirelessly to get it done and, and that, and was really happy that we were able to do the tooling for that frame into a prototype. Frame. And the day that the engineers from Cervelo came to head, we made the very first prototype one-piece carbon fiber frame here in Minnesota. But unfortunately, as he was getting ready to go to dinner with her engineers and I was picking up my daughter he called me with just absolute joy and excitement because the frame actually worked like the prototype worked and he was, you know, super proud of what had happened, but that happened to be the last phone call I ever had was Steve. He passed away. You know, he, he passed four days later after that he ended up having a heart virus and and he never had, he never woke up. So that inspired me to to make a carbon fiber frame for Savella. And so we were so busy moving the business. I had to pick up a move three weeks later into a new facility. And it took about a year and a half to get into that. Market and, and make a frame. So to get to the answer of your question, we, we were so busy with this frame fat by Grimm's and we knew gravel was coming, but there's only so much I can do, you know, I was, I was, you know, Trying to aim, you know, keep, keep the company together and move forward after Steve's passing. You know, I w I knew that we would move into a wide carbon gravel wheel too, but we didn't introduce that until 2018. [00:23:15] Craig Dalton: okay. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, obviously quite a journey to be grieving and running a company and moving. Having a family and everything you went through at that time to come out the other side and continue the brand and continue, you know, obviously like your late husband had a bunch of projects in the works. He was always thinking ahead in the market and to kind of realize that that triathlon frame was surveil. It was probably brought it full circle and felt good to realize that product. [00:23:46] Anne Hed: Yeah. If he would have said, Hey, Annie, didn't look so good, you know, or, you know, they aren't really interested then I would have not made that frame, you know, but it really was the joy I heard in his voice. It was my last conversation with them and it was just kind of a gift. A gift he gave me. And I think it was a really, really good learning experience for our company because wheels are hard. Frames are really hard. Like just the complexity of a frame being one piece also it was very challenging for us, but I think in the long run we learn different molding techniques that we maybe went to. [00:24:24] Craig Dalton: Yeah. Yep. And then, then at this point, does the company focus exclusively on wheels or are there still other components and frames in the mix? [00:24:34] Anne Hed: Good question. I think when you realize what you're really good at, you do what you're really good at. So, you know, Had aspirations of, yeah, maybe we do another frame, but no, we are making wheels and I became women business certified own. Cause you know, I have still a little bit of a dream to make something out of carbon fiber that is out of the cycling industry someday. Maybe something that flies, something that helps people. So being the really, the only woman. Owned carbon manufacturer here in the U S maybe the world. I don't know. Don't, don't say that for sure. But, you know, I have opportunities or, or possibilities that I can venture into different markets, you know, on the side, you know, the, but, but in the cycling industry at this current time, we just really love making wheels and we're, we're busy. And as you know, the year, the last couple of years with COVID has been a bit of. A nice tailwind for us. So we're just pretty much right now working on carbon and alloy wheels. And. The carbon wheel that we introduced in 2018, it's a fabulous name. It was named after in Poria Kansas. And that's been a really I even trademark that one, I was thinking that day. So, I think it's, it's a great name. I didn't think of the name, but one of my coworkers did, but it's, it's a beautiful name for our carbon wheel in [00:26:04] Craig Dalton: Let's talk let's, let's talk about those wheels. So what, what is the headline up for gravel wheels? You've got both alloy and carbon versions. The gay mentioned 706 50 B models. Let's talk about some of the attributes of the wheel. [00:26:19] Anne Hed: right? So the the Alloway. Or just wonderful because they're, you know, they're, they're just bomb proof in there. They're affordable, you know, so there's going to be certain folks that want kind of more of an entry-level or they don't, they're not interested in the carbon wheel. So we make alloy wheels. The employer will, and I think retail is right around $750 and, you know, It's just a 25 internal 30 external. And, you know, it's, it's works with I-CAR and SRAM and Shimano, and it's, it's just an all around great wheel. [00:27:01] Craig Dalton: are you lacing that to a hub of your own manufacturer? [00:27:05] Anne Hed: So we don't make the hubs in house, but it's a hub that we have designed and it's a head hub and it's, it's very well-made. We have a four and a five pulse system. So depending if you get the performance lineup, you're going to get the four Paul hub. If you get the pro lineup, which is. Going to be a little bit different spoke also. So there is a little bit different price points. You can get either one of those. [00:27:31] Craig Dalton: Or the rims identical between those two lines [00:27:34] Anne Hed: the rooms are identical yeah. In the alleyway version. [00:27:37] Craig Dalton: Yeah. And was that 25 millimeter internal width? Was that what you were making back in 2008 or whenever you first introduced the gravel wheel, did it have that wide of a internal spacing? [00:27:50] Anne Hed: Oh, gosh, no, no. I mean, no, that didn't, that didn't happen for a few years later, but you know, everything's keeps evolving and as you've seen with a lot of the other wheel manufacturers out there, they just keep getting wider and wider. I mean, the tires have gotten so much better over the last couple of years. We're still really. You know, sitting on a fence with different tire brands out there, but you know, the, the carbon wheel that we make, the Emporio carbon. Is tubeless and it is a phenomenal wheel. You can get it also in the pro version or the performance version. The pro version has just a little bit higher modulates carbon, so you can get a little bit lighter with it. And then the, the pro version again. Little bit different carbon, same attributes as the, the alloy wheel. If it's the pro it has the five Paul hub. If it's the performance, it's the four Paul hub, a little bit different spokes, but, both of them are just a really beautiful Wilson. I think what I'm so proud about is that, you know, over 30% of our workforce is female in manufacture. [00:29:00] Craig Dalton: I imagine it's quite unusual actually. [00:29:02] Anne Hed: Very, you know, so it's, it, it makes me feel really good about, you know, being able to provide a job and income and, you know, health insurance and benefits and, and, and I think that's what differentiates head from so many of the other. Companies out there that yeah. A were made in Minnesota, but we're, we don't paint either. So everything that comes out of the mold is green and it's not going through a paint booth. So you see what you get. [00:29:31] Craig Dalton: and were you able to, are you able to bring sort of semi-skilled employees in and train them up to be carbon fiber wheel building experts? [00:29:42] Anne Hed: You know, we, we have lots of diversity here. So, we do have folks that have, you know, master's in composite engineering degrees mechanical engineer. We have we have folks that have degrees in, in history and, and it's, it's just so, so first, which I'm so proud of. When it comes to the skill of actually molding a wheel, you know, you're not going to be able to find somebody that has done that before. So most of the people that do the, the lab, we teach them the skill and we, we, we spend a lot of time, you know, with different Teachings to make sure that they understand the, the layups. And you know, if you, if you look at a carbon fiber wheel, you know, ours is prepregs, so it comes frozen. We have automatic cutting machines to, to make sure that it's laid up properly and cut properly. I mean, I'm thinking in my mind, all the steps that it goes just to make a wheel, but all of the aluminum molds that we make are made in house. So we just purchased a five axis CNC to make more, but that skillset would be also training that person, how to machine. So it's just, it's just so many different attributes to make just a wheel. [00:31:10] Craig Dalton: Yep. And everything's gotta be perfect along the way. And a lot of attention to detail and a product like this as somebody who's running a manufacturing facility myself, it's, it's fascinating to kind of bring people into the family and instruct them well, Hey, here's the end goal. This is what we need to get to. This is the quality level where. Our customers expect and we expect going out the door and then bringing them up to speed as to what are the steps along the way and how to be facilities all along the process to make sure that no error gets introduced into the process along the way. [00:31:43] Anne Hed: Yeah. And COVID changed things a bit, to be honest with you. So, you know, the workforce has changed a little bit. We have been fortunate to find folks that were a, in the restaurant business or, you know, different schools and such, and they, they just, they just wanted us to build. So we were able to hire them and give them a skillset. And they're really happy about that. I mean, what makes me happy is when an employee comes up and says, you know, when I get to buy a house now, you know, they're or thank you for providing health insurance, you know, it's, it's, it's. It is the wheel that I love making, but I get a lot of joy out of working alongside and helping people find a skill set and giving them a employment. [00:32:32] Craig Dalton: Yeah, I think that's huge. And so often on this podcast, we're talking to people who work for larger corporations and don't have that really intimate relationship with all the employees. And it goes, as you said, far beyond actually the output of the manufacturing process, it's really being part of one another's lives and seeing people be successful in acquiring new skills. [00:32:52] Anne Hed: Yeah. I mean, next weekend I'll be able to see some of our athletes and what I'm finding even really enjoyable as we've got athletes like Rachel McBride, you know, a non there'll be a non-binary category there. And Rachel be racing in that. And I've got Joshlyn McAuley. Who's a mother of two who just won an iron man in Texas. She'll be there several other athletes that, you know, we're supporting and, and that's what I get excited about. Going to events now that we be able to, you know, get back after the last few years and sitting in the booth and just supporting them because, you know, that's, that's where my roots were. I was an athlete and I, I remember how difficult sometimes it was just getting to a race and making sure everything was okay with your bike and your wheels. And now we're going to be on the course. Rachel needs support in the 200 mile. So. You'll see a van out there and if anybody else needs any help, you know, we'll be able to help with some of our product, but it's, it's connecting with the people that do the events and not, not just the pros. You know, I, I, I love seeing our wheels on, on all kinds of the folks out there. It just brings a lot of happiness to me. [00:34:10] Craig Dalton: Yeah, absolutely. Is the company going to be at other events throughout the year? Is that part of the marketing plan for the year? [00:34:16] Anne Hed: We are one of the title sponsors for big sugar also. And you know, we we're, we're diverse. We have triathlons that we're going to, I just got back from Saint George iron man and, and saw some of our triathletes, but we keep kind of adding things each month. So I, I'm not sure what other ones for sure we're going, but I know that we're, we are for sure. Going to big sugar. [00:34:38] Craig Dalton: Right on and as gravel athletes are considering ahead, we'll said what's the best way for them to kind of understand where to land in your product lineup. Are there some sort of easy ways to talk people through whether they should be riding a carbon wheel or an aluminum wheel? [00:34:56] Anne Hed: Well, we have, we actually pick up the phone. So if somebody calls here and is kind of stuck a little bit, that's been one of my mantras too, is I really think it's important for people to be able to call and who's ever answered the phone here is very well diverse in the needs of what an athlete might need or weekend rider as such. So, you know, it's really, it really kind of depends on. What their goals are, you know, and what their price ranges. But like I said, we have aluminum wheels that, you know, are, are under $800 in carbon wheels, you know? Well, over $2,000. So it's, it's really whatever you feel you want. I mean, you know, putting on. A fancy pair of carbon wills, you know, is, is, is fun. You know, and it, and it is, it is lighter and it's going to maybe respond a little bit different, but you know, a lot, we saw a lot of, of alloy too. I mean, so it's really, it's really up to the athlete or the rider, but we can help them decide depending on what they need. [00:35:57] Craig Dalton: Interesting. Well, that's great to know. I'll certainly put the website in my show notes, so people know how to find you and encourage everybody to call head and understand what had wheels you should get underneath you for your next gravel event. [00:36:11] Anne Hed: Yeah, I'm, I'm really happy to say that, you know, our supply chain is probably good. Like, you know, it was, it was tough, maybe 6, 6, 7, 8 months ago. But you know, if you called today, most of our alloy gravel Emporio wheels are in. Within a quick, quick lead time to, to ship carbons, even some of those in stock. So it's not like the, the crazy lead times that you're hearing from a lot of the bike manufacturers. We could get people up rolling on, on a head wheel pretty quickly. [00:36:42] Craig Dalton: Amazing. Well, thank you. And so much for the time, I loved hearing more about the journey and what you guys are doing and appreciate all the support that you guys are putting into the sport of gravel cycling, not only through putting great products out there, but going and participating in some of these events and supporting our event, organizers that are doing hard work to keep us all rolling. [00:37:02] Anne Hed: Yes. Well, thank you. And I hope to, to meet some of the people that hopefully will listen to the podcast. And if you have, if you see me and you do listen to it, just just let me know or drop me an email. And if you have any questions about our product line I actually do pick up the phone to and answer my emails. [00:37:21] Craig Dalton: I love it. Thanks so much for the time and good luck out in Emporia. [00:37:26] Anne Hed: I'm looking forward to it. [00:37:28] Craig Dalton: Cheers. [00:37:29] Anne Hed: Thanks. [00:37:30] Craig Dalton: So that's going to do it for this week's edition of the gravel ride podcast. Big, thanks to Ann Head for joining us and sharing the story about head cycling. Super excited about those wheels. She's been showing out there in Kansas. That I'm sure many of you have seen@headcycling.com. Also big, thanks to hammerhead and the hammerhead kuru to computer for sponsoring this week show. Remember you can use the promo code, the gravel ride to get a free premium water bottle and custom color kit with your purchase of the crew to computer. If you're interested in giving us any feedback, I encourage you to join the ridership. Simply visit www.theridership.com. It's a free global cycling community and the best way to interact with a great community of gravel, cyclists. If you're able to support the show, please visit buy me a coffee.com/the gravel ride. Or if you have a moment, ratings and reviews are hugely appreciated in the podcast business. Until next time. Here's to finding some dirt under your wheels
In the episode we hear from 11 time Ironman Finisher, Vicki Muir Cherin. Vicki is signed up and will be going for finish #12 at Ironman Texas on April 22, 2022. Vicki currently lives in Boca Raton, FL with her husband and they 2 adult children and 3 grandchildren. Vicki talks through how she got introduced to the sport of triathlon. Because of an injury, she had gained some weight. After the birth of her granddaughter, she found that walker her in the stroller allow her to become more active without pain. Six months and 60lbs lighter Vicki no longer required medication for pain management. Vicki explains that her original plan was to complete every Ironman race in the upper 48 states. When the Legacy Program was announced she realized that would be a great opportunity to race Kona. She actually lived in Hawaii when she was younger. When I ask her how she's feeling coming into IMTX, Vicki says that she is feeling good. Her back is not giving her trouble and she's been able to get in quality work. She seems particularly satisfied with her bike workouts.Vicki gives a little history of when she met Jim Ristow. Jim was my guest on episode #3 in July of 2021. I We learn that Jim's wife Kim, who has been referred to as “the world's best sherpa,” as taught Vicki's daughter all that she needs to know and is now Vicki's sherpa. I announce that Kim has agreed to be a guest on an upcoming episode where I hope to get her to provide insight into how to best assist an athlete during race weekend.Because Vicki has been on the quest to finish 12 full distance races and qualify to race in “Kona” and because in May 2022 Ironman will hold the World Championships somewhere other than Hawaii for the very first time, I ask Vicki her thoughts. Because of the current uncertainty of if/when the World Championships are actually going to return to Kona and the ongoing concern of her back, she acknowledges that she would welcome the opportunity to race in St. George, UT if invited.Our conversion gets real when Vicki talks about the recent passing of her mom. Her mom loved Hawaii and Vicki has plans to return there to memorialize her either as part of Ironman or not. We talk about how small the world can be sometimes. John Lueder, who I met at IMTX in 2018 and was my 1st guest in Episode 1, was with Vicki on course in Santa Rosa a few years back. John provided support to Vicki during the run portion when her back was giving her trouble.I take the opportunity to provide a little insight and course recon for the IMTX road conditions. The last time Vicki raced in Texas the bike course went through the Sam Houston forest. The Hardy Toll, while relatively flat, has its challenges.Since part of the Legacy Program requirement is to complete at least one full distance race per year until your “Kona” opportunity is realized, I ask Vicki what race see is targeting after completed her 12th at IMTX. She acknowledges that she and Jim have had that conversation and the plan is to race IMTX in 2022. Which means that when she finishes IMTX in 2022 she will have almost a full year to do something other than triathlon! I eventually get around to asking Vicki what bike she rides. At the time of the recording, she shares that she is on a “basic” Cervelo P3 that she actually has to “shift the gears.” Since the recording, she has ordered a new Cervelo with Di2 and disc brakes. IMTX is scheduled to be the last race on her P3.As expected, Vicki shares some insight and wisdom that she's learned over the years as well as her plan to dye her hair purple to promote Dementia awareness. Vascular Dementia is what Vicki's mom was diagnosed with before her death.We wish Vicki and Jim both well as they attempt to finish their 12th full distance Ironman race on May 23, 2022.
Ein tolles Interview mit Gerard Vroomen in Amsterdam! Der Mitbegründer von OPEN Cycle spricht mit uns sehr detailliert über die Entwicklung und Produktion von Carbon Fahrradrahmen und insbesondere natürlich auch über das neue OPEN MIN.D. California (Made in USA).
This week on the CyclingTips podcast... We chat in depth about the men's and women's Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and the men's Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne. In case you want to read Iain's The dictator, the oligarch and the UCI president piece. James checks in to discuss Cervelo's new frames hiding in plain sight at the opening weekend.
In dieser Folge des Podcasts Gain3 habe ich mit Gillian Jakob, Brand Manager EMEA bei Cervelo über die Vermarktungsstrategie der Marke gesprochen, die sich durch gnadenlose Performanceorientierung insbesondere im ambitionierten Age-Group und Profibereich einen großen Namen aufgebaut hat. Über die eigene Leidenschaft im Triathlon hat Gillian Jakob heute ihre Leidenschaft zum Beruf gemacht. Durch verschiedene Stationen vom Praktikum bei Adidas als Intern Product Managerin, Running Warehouse, Rotor bis hin zur Performance Brand Managerin Sport Import sammelte Gillian Erfahrung und machte sich einen Namen in der Szene. So kam es dann, dass sie von Cervelo 2018 angesprochen wurde die Stelle zu übernehmen. Eine Herausforderung, die sie angenommen hat. Im Podcast sprachen wir über die Marke Cervelo, ihre Werte, Branding, Zielgruppen, Athletensponsoring und vieles mehr. Showsponsor: Swisslife Select: swisslife-select.de/dominik-koehne.html Steuerberater Matussek: stb-matussek.de Schloss Hohenkammer: schlosshohenkammer.de Alle relevanten Links sind zu finden auf der Webseite dieses Podcasts auf niklasludwig.com Wenn euch der Podcast gefällt, würde ich mich sehr über eine Bewertung freuen! Instagram: niklas_ludwig414 Facebook: niklas_ludwig414 Webseite: www.niklasludwig.com Strava: Niklas Ludwig Musik von: www.musicfox.com
Welcome to Episode 11 of the Steed Cycles Podcast! In this episode we're joined by Joele Guynup of Santa Cruz/Juliana bicycles. Joele is our rep for Santa Cruz, Juliana and Cervelo, and is quite often the reason we're able to keep Santa Cruz and Cervelo riders riding their bikes when they have a problem - she's a miracle worker sometimes. Having been riding and racing bikes for around 20 years now and been in and around the industry for much of that, Joele is a true professional, and she is also just one of the raddest humans we know.Tune in to the podcast to find out how Joele made the leap from cyclist, to racer, to industry pro. Much like the rest of us, Joele simply loves bikes, and loves working in the industry. Not only is Joele an industry pro, she gives a whole heap of her time to awesome causes like Ride Like a Girl and numerous other cycling events - it's inspiring to see and we're grateful for all that she does. We hope you enjoy listening to Joele as much as we enjoyed chatting with her!
This was one of my favorite episodes from a while back! Today you are going to be listening to my interview with Reese Ruland who is a gravel racer living in Fort Collins, Co. She has a love for endurance racing that began as an ultra runner. Along the way she has had great opportunities to connect with inspirational guys like Allen at Scratch Labs and work with bicycle companies like Specialized before settling in to the life of biking in Colorado. She works and trains hard and it shows, she is kicking ass in the sport of gravel and has a fleet of Cervelo bikes to prove it. Along with a sponsorship from Cervelo, she is also sponsored by others including Fat Tire which is a tasty craft beer made by New Belgium Brewing. Um, yes please. Reese not only has a lot of passion for her sport, she also has passion for the cycling community through some pretty cool organizations like the Cycle Effect. It is obvious she contributes a lot to the gravel community. Take a listen to hear Reese talk gravel, nutrition and her French bulldog Loaf. www.murphologypodcast
This/next week's episode of the Nerd Alert Podcast has dropped a little early. That's because it's a timely chat about the new Cervelo R5-CX cyclocross race bike that was just announced. Our guests for this episode are Cervelo's director of product management, Maria Benson, and the company's engineering manager, Scott Roy. Dave Rome fills in as host and chats about all the nerdy details of the new model (such as the new threaded bottom bracket!) that was designed specifically for Marianne Vos and Wout van Aert. It's worth a quick note to say that while the regular CyclingTips podcast does occasionally do special sponsored episodes that take a deep dive on new bike releases, this isn't one of those. Rather we just thought it would be interesting to have a candid chat about the discipline-specific design elements that some of the world's best racers request.
Episode 8 of the road.cc Podcast in association with Cervélo is probably our most packed yet!Part 1 - From suicidal to world record holder: Josh Quigley on breaking the 7 day cycling distance world recordIt's a story that seems almost too remarkable to be true… and Josh Quigley ain't done yet! The intrepid Scotsman talks to Jack and Dave about how he went from being suicidal to a multiple record holder in just seven years, with a number of hiccups along the way. Failed attempts to cycle around the world, horrific crashes and more have threatened to stop Josh in his tracks, but he just gets back up again. He now aims to join a pro team, and tells us why he thinks he will make it as an elite cyclist. Part 2 – Mike Stead talks about his 5 star Silca Synergetic Drip Lube reviewWhy was a 30 quid bottle of lube worthy of a hallowed 10/10 road.cc score? Mike Stead explains in this summary of his recent review! Part 3 – Cervelo talk bike tech and the brand new R5 What would bikes be like without UCI rules? Where do you start when designing a bike? Mat and George catch up with Maria Benson, Director of Product Management and Scott Roy, Engineering Manager from Cervélo, who give us a fascinating insight into what happens when one of the most recognisable bike brands in the pro peloton and beyond make a new bike. We also discuss Cervélo's latest flagship lightweight road racer, the R5, in plenty of juicy detail.
This week, we introduce a new, very loud segment. Then we look at the new Rapha x POC helmets and a "unique" jersey from Isadore, before throwing more things into the canal. Plus, we rate a Cervelo submitted by Dmitry from Toronto. Follow Us On Instagram: instagram.com/cyclingfashionweekContact Us: cyclingfashionweek@gmail.comHit subscribe, leave a comment and a review, it helps us share the best in cycling fashion with the world.
People now say that 3 laps of Chain Chomper is worse than 10 laps of hilly. I blame recency bias, but I haven't done the race yet. We talk about this weekend's HSRL with Chris and James having already done the race, Zwift nerfing the new Cervelo road bike (but it's still the best!) and how much we're all loving the Herd Club Championship so far.
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Phil White and Gerard Vroomen took their bike company, Cervelo on a 16 year roller-coaster ride from a basement workshop in Montreal to the pinnacle of triathlon and road cycling. They realised their dream of seeing their bikes win in the Tour De France,the Olympics and Ironman. Gerard and Phil built the most sought-after brand in the cycling world in less than a decade. Join us to learn from my guest Phil White about his lessons from this incredible journey and how he and Gerard faced the fight of their lives to keep the company alive. If you love entrepreneurship and sport then this is a show you simply must listen to.
On this week's show, my guest is Damon Rinard, the engineering manager for road bikes for Cycling Sports Group. Rinard has more than 30 years' experience in the bike industry. He came to prominence as a result of his work for Cervelo where he was instrumental not just in developing…
At the 2018 Geneva Motor Show. Lamborghini and Cervelo unveiled their new limited edition Triathlon Bike. The super fast Lamborghini Cervelo Limited Edition Triathlon Bike.