Podcasts about chronic environmental illness

In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Neil Nathan about the intersection between brain symptoms and complex illness. Dr. Nathan has practiced medicine for over 50 years. He is one of the leading experts in complex chronic illness and mold toxicity — author of the bestselling Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, and Chronic Environmental Illness and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide. I am grateful to call Dr. Nathan a mentor and colleague. His pioneering work has been responsible for my healing from chronic illness, as well as that of many patients I've treated. Together, we co-lead a small peer group (within the larger mentoring group he provides with Marie Matheson, ND), supporting practitioners who treat those with complex chronic illness.In this episode we discuss:03:43 – Dr. Nathan's path to understanding complex illness11:20 – Why complex illness is rising and underrecognized19:30 – Why new medical ideas take decades to reach patients23:15 – Mold, Lyme, and long-COVID: the “big three” root causes25:58 – The limbic-vagal-mast cell “trifecta”30:31 – Are some people born more vulnerable?44:39 – The risk in “just do limbic retraining” advice47:35 - Biochemical contributors49:26 – Structural root: jaw and cervical instability53:58 – Differentiating Between Mold, Lyme & Long-COVID58:49 – A message of hope, and where to learn moreFull Transcript belowYou can find Dr. Nathan's books, consultations and mentoring program through his website at neilnathanmd.com. If you'd like to help get this information out into the world, please consider liking, sharing, or commenting.Until next time,CourtneyCourtney Snyder MDDr. Courtney Snyder MD is a holistic and functional child and adult psychiatrist and host of the Holistic Psychiatry Podcast and can be found at courtneysnydermd.comMedical DisclaimerThis podcast is for educational purposes only and is not intended or implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Consult your own physician for any medical issues you may be having.Full TranscriptDr. Nathan's Path to Understanding Complex Illness03:43Courtney: I'm so glad we're doing this, and I feel like it's long overdue. As you know, in the mental health space in psychiatry, there's a lot of recognition of a dysregulated nervous system, threat response in the body, but oftentimes that's attributed to external forces or trauma, and not necessarily internal threats that we see, obviously, in complex chronic illness, which we'll be talking about. There's also not the recognition of the relationship between physical symptoms and brain-related symptoms. So I know you're going to help us connect a lot of these dots. As we sort of just lay the groundwork for what complex chronic illness is — when in your path did you start to recognize the distinction, when was the beginning of your work and appreciation of complex health issues?Neil: Okay, there are two answers to that question. First, when I went to medical school, my hope was to become a healer. And I was very disappointed that when I got there, I realized they weren't going to teach me to be a healer. And back then I used to question my professors at medical school — why do you do it this way, and how is that? And I kept feeling in all of our interactions that we were missing something. And my professors would go, “Okay, Mr. Wise Guy, smart guy, what are we missing?” And I'd go, “I don't know, I just know we're missing something.” Later I would come to recognize that we were missing the emotional and spiritual component to whatever was affecting people in their illnesses. And I have language for it now — I didn't then. The person in medical school who influenced me the most was Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, who I view as my main mentor in medical school. She, unlike anyone else, had a one-and-a-half-hour seminar once a week. Back then there weren't video cameras — you were in a small confined room with a two-way mirror, and you're sitting there watching someone do this. And she would simply interview one of her patients. She was a psychiatrist, but she was the only one in medical school who demonstrated how to really listen to people, how to really communicate with them, and not have this standard review of systems — here's my questions, here's your answers, and that's what I do, and this is what I write up. She was really listening. She was trying to really take in, okay, what happened to you, and what's going on with you? So I would want to give her credit as a role model to change how I learn to listen. Okay, that was step one.I'm going to fast forward to the early 1980s. And I am, at that point, the medical director of a regional pain clinic. And we are starting to see a whole bunch of patients who had this complicated process of fatigue, unrefreshed sleep, irritable bowel syndrome, and pain migrating all over their body. And back then we called it fibrositis. Now we call this fibromyalgia. And so whenever medicine encounters a thing that they don't know what they're looking at, it's psychological until proven otherwise. And people would get therapy, and they would take antidepressants and anti-anxiety agents. Didn't help much. And so it became clear to me that we didn't understand what this was at all. It was not psychological. Something was going on in their bodies — now I recognize it as an inflammatory process. Back then there was no concept of that at all. And then, slowly, in the early nineties, we began to find pieces of the puzzle to understand what was triggering fibromyalgia. I was working back then with Jacob Teitelbaum, who did a lot of work with chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, and we both independently came up with an understanding that a deficiency of magnesium, DHEA, adrenal issues, thyroid issues, sex hormone deficiencies, GI dysbiosis, and food allergy — if we looked at those and treated those, the majority of people with fibromyalgia got cured. It was different for different patients. It was not like there was one thing that caused it. And as time evolved, we began to realize that there was lots of other biochemical imbalances in the body that would contribute to this kind of a process that represented chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia.We discovered that Lyme disease and coinfections was a huge piece of that. And later still we discovered that mold toxicity was a huge piece of that. And so my understanding of the complexity — and it's not really confined to chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia at this point, we're really talking about almost all chronic illness — with a huge psychological component to that. So we've begun to understand this as essentially some version of inflammation. And if we start to really dig into what are the potential causes of that inflammation, we can make a huge impact for them. So this is a multi-year evolving understanding of how a person's genetics, biochemistry, physiology impacts their whole being in every way. And that inflammation extends to the nervous system, contributing greatly, if not causing directly, a large number of what are now called psychiatric diagnoses.Courtney: Right. So even among those patients that you were seeing — you were seeing, I'm assuming, depression, anxiety, brain fog?Neil: Yeah, the vast majority of our patients with mold toxicity have brain fog and anxiety, depression, OCD behaviors, mood swings, depersonalization, derealization. I mean, all of that is super common in our patients.Complex Illness Is Rising — and Underrecognized11:20Courtney: Do you feel like this is more recognized now — or do you feel like the number of people being hit with these complex health issues is increasing — or both?Neil: Both. I would love to say that the medical profession is increasingly recognizing all of this as important, but that recognition is coming very, very slowly. The majority of folks out there, if they were to list the symptoms that they had, their doctors would basically look at them like, “I have no idea what's causing it, so this must be in your head.” And that is the message they're getting from their physicians at this point. So many patients are being gaslighted, so many patients are being told it's in your head. And the repercussions of that are the family is hearing that same message, and the families become less supportive of those people, because they're saying, “This is not real, so why would I support you? This is still in your head, go get your head fixed.” And they're wrong, and it's really a travesty. But so yes, very slowly, this awareness is growing. There are now more medical meetings that I'm aware of where psychiatrists can learn more about this than there were ten, fifteen years ago, for sure. But not enough — it's still not enough.The other part of that is some of the main triggers for this inflammatory process are increasing. So we're seeing more and more mold toxicity, we're seeing more and more Lyme and coinfections, partly because the environment that we are all exposed to has gotten extremely increasingly toxic. So it's now known, for example, that there are 350,000 new chemicals in our environment than existed 70 years ago. The vast majority of those have never been tested for safety in human beings. So human beings have a tremendous amount of chemical exposure that they never had before. Human beings have a tremendous amount of EMF, electromagnetic exposures that they never had before in the history of the human race. So these exposures are cumulative. Our major organs, like our liver and our kidney, that have to deal with toxicity, are overloaded. And so, yes, we are seeing an epidemic of a whole bunch of these conditions. In children, we are aware that autism has skyrocketed — it went from one in several thousand kids to one in thirty kids in many states now have autism. And forgive me, but the pediatric profession is not taking this seriously. It's like, “Yeah, that's sad, it's unfortunate.” It's like — really, you don't want to look at this? This means one in every three kids born are getting autism — does that not concern you? But, forgive me, the medical profession is very slow to embrace new information, and that is really to the detriment.We're seeing an epidemic of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ALS, all of which involve neuroinflammation. We've seen already an epidemic of chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. And all of these things are interrelated, because — yes, I'm supposed to be an expert on mold toxicity, and I probably am — but mold toxicity doesn't exist in a vacuum. You have mold toxicity as one of multiple environmental toxins we're being exposed to. It is simply one of the most common, the easiest one to diagnose, because we have tests for it. We don't have tests for the hundreds of thousands of chemicals out there. We're just beginning to be able to have some tests that will tell us what's in someone's body that might be making them sick.Courtney: Right, right. And I would imagine that this typical medical model of looking for one cause to autism, one cause to dementia — it's a completely different way of thinking. When you get away from that and you look at complexity of the human body, that way of thinking holds back the research, it holds back any progress.Neil: What I think is helpful for people to look at is: we are all uniquely, biochemically, genetically different. And so the same inflammation in one person could trigger cardiovascular disease, and another person could trigger Alzheimer's, and another person could trigger chronic fatigue. So we need to take a step back and go, okay — and this is not a brand new idea. For the last ten years, there are many papers in the medical journals that are saying chronic illness is almost certainly an inflammatory process. Now, it hasn't really integrated into what people are being taught in medical school or in their residency program. But this is not a brand new idea, and there's tons of medical research documenting that.What behooves us as physicians is to look at every human being and go, “Okay, this is your named chronic condition — what are the triggers for you?” We have to kind of be like a medical detective and dig in and go, okay, what's triggering your inflammation, so I can treat the cause — not put a band-aid on it, which is, forgive me, in the psychiatric field, taking antidepressants and benzodiazepines. That's a band-aid. It's a helpful band-aid, it could be a very important band-aid, help someone to function. But you really need to be looking at, okay, I have this great band-aid, but wouldn't it be nice to actually cure this? And I think that would be, for me, to your audience, Courtney, my take-home message — which is always look for the root cause, because it is possible that we will find that root cause, and you won't have whatever name you've been given, depression, anxiety, OCD, for the rest of your earthly life. Maybe.And I've treated thousands of people successfully here. So this is not — I've had one or two successes here — we're talking thousands of people that have responded to this way of practicing medicine, with fabulous results. People who've been literally bedridden, incapacitated by their illness, are now out there working again and being with their family and living full lives. So that's the take-home message.Courtney: Right. Which makes it so satisfying to treat. And I mean, I can speak to that, having experienced it personally. But at the same time, you do get pushback from other areas of medicine that don't give it necessarily credibility, even though people, on the other side, are thriving and healing, and it's really amazing.New Medical Ideas & Research Take Decades to Reach Patients19:30Neil: You know, the history of all science, including medicine, is: new technology, new drugs are fast-tracked to get into our lives. Ideas, not so much. Typically it takes a generation — twenty, twenty-five years — for a new idea to come into acceptance. And the first reaction of any science, medicine included, is to get into denial, which is, “There isn't enough data to support this concept, and I can't be perceived as practicing bad medicine by embracing a concept that isn't proven yet.” But that means that all of their patients are going to have to wait twenty years — until suffering — until that person goes, “Now there's enough evidence, now I can learn how to do this, and now I'll begin to help you.” I'm not wired that way. I'm wired that if I have a suffering person, and I have something that I can offer them that might help, I'm going to try it. I'm going to do it in the safest way I know how, but I can't leave someone dangling for twenty years and say, “I'm sorry, I have to wait until my profession figures out what to do.” That's not me.I worked at the medical school at the University of Minnesota Duluth for eleven years. And I was not only on the faculty, but I was on the committee that determined what new information was put into the curriculum. For example, AIDS was just coming into vogue at that particular point, and it was obvious that we needed to have courses on AIDS for the medical students, because this was big. What a lot of people wouldn't understand is that each department in a medical school fiercely guards its time allotment. Everyone gets a certain number of hours, and they're not open to adding new things or giving up any of their time slots for anything new. And so what I would watch is, as new information came into the medical school, each department fiercely refused to add any new lectures in their department, or give up any of the time that they had to anybody else to add that information. So we're talking about university politics now — this is not even medicine, this is people guarding their turf. And I don't even think that would occur to any consumers, that that would happen like that — well, certainly, why would that happen in a medical school? Well, it's because human beings are responsible for each department, and they guard their own turf. So it's a kind of an insidious process about how new information isn't embraced by the profession, to go into the medical school curriculum.Mold, Lyme, and Long-COVID: The “Big Three”23:15Courtney: I want to come back to what you were saying about inflammation being at the core of chronic illness and complex chronic illness. And when it comes to complex chronic illness, whether it's SIRS or mast cell activation from mold or Lyme, we talk about multiple systems being affected — the central nervous system, gastrointestinal tract, endocrine, skin, just you name it. If the inflammation then is from a source of oxidative stress or a major insult — would you say that mold toxicity is the most common, or would you put Lyme or now even COVID on a par with that, as far as the deepest roots causing the inflammation? Not that the chemicals, metals, and everything else we're being exposed to aren't at play.Neil: In my experience, those three are the biggies — mold toxicity, Lyme with its co-infections, and long-haul COVID. Those are the three most common. Of those, in my experience, mold is the most common, and the one that has to be treated first if you have some or all of them. So, for example, in people who have long-haul COVID or Lyme, often their body will not respond to that treatment optimally until you first get the mold out. So there's a little hierarchy of what we do, in what order. And then within that hierarchy, there's also an order in which we do things for people to respond optimally. So, for example, mold toxicity will trigger — and Lyme and Bartonella will do the same thing — limbic dysfunction, vagal nerve dysfunction, and mast cell activation in most of our patients. Not all, but in most. And the longer they have it, the more likely those things are going to get triggered. Once somebody does not feel safe — and the systems that we have in our body to monitor that safety and to keep us safe are the limbic system, the vagal system, and mast cell activation — we have to get the body safer, or it will not be able to take what you need to take to treat mold or Lyme or long-haul COVID. People will literally shut down — their limbic system will essentially go, “Mm, I see what you're trying to do there, and I can't let you do it, because I'm not sure that's safe.” And it will literally not allow people to do it.The Limbic-Vagal-Mast Cell “Trifecta”25:58Courtney: So with one of those, or a combination of those, on board, these threat mechanisms would be kicked up — mast cell activation, limbic system dysfunction, autonomic nervous system dysfunction. If they look similar, or a timeline isn't easily helping parse out what might be primary, how able do you feel to make the distinction — versus if mold is present, starting there?Neil: If we look at our patient's symptoms, they will point us clearly to whether there's a limbic or vagal or mast cell piece, to be specific. The limbic system's job involves primarily monitoring and regulating and keeping emotion and sensitivity in check. So any symptoms that involve those two things are limbic almost by definition. So on the sensitivity side, if someone describes an increased sensitivity to light, sound, touch, smell, chemicals, EMFs, food — they're already telling me my limbic system is dysfunctional. In some ways it doesn't matter what the cause is; if someone has this increased sensitivity, regardless of the cause, I know we have to treat their limbic system first.On the vagal side, the symptoms would primarily run into symptoms that involve the autonomic nervous system, which would involve things like temperature dysregulation, palpitations, insomnia, POTS, blood pressure dysregulation, or symptoms that involve the gastrointestinal tract, because the vagus nerve controls almost the entire intestinal tract. So any GI symptoms — gas, bloating, distension, reflux, diarrhea, constipation, abdominal pain — again, that would lead me to go, the vagus is involved here. So by listening to my patient's symptoms, I can immediately know what's dysregulated here, and what my first treatment arm will be — to get the limbic and vagal systems back up and running again at a safer level, because otherwise our patients aren't going anywhere. They can do binders and antifungals and antibiotics for Lyme, and they will get worse. Their body will basically go, “I know I might need that, but why are you doing that? I can't even get to a place of safety to respond. I'm on self-preservation mode here.”And in the mast cell category — again, all of the same symptoms that could be mold or Lyme or long-haul COVID could also be mast cell. Again, it's a multi-systemic process. A tip-off, which I find very helpful, is if someone describes a symptom that comes on immediately after eating, sometimes while eating. Nothing causes that kind of reaction that fast except mast cell activation. Allergy — and most people, if they do have some symptom that comes after eating, they're going to be thinking, “It must be what I ate, what did I just eat?” But it's not food allergy, it's mast cell activation. In that context, many of our patients have already observed that they can eat a particular food one day and have a very strong reaction, and the next day, same food, nothing. And they'll go, “That doesn't make sense — if this was allergy, I ought to react the same way every time.” And so that is classical mast cell activation, which fluctuates. So — for the first part of your question — that's what I'm looking for. When I take a history, when I talk with patients, I'm going to really dig into: are they already manifesting symptoms that clearly tell me what we need to do first, to get them safer, so that now they can respond properly to the treatment that will really get at their root cause.Are Some People Born More Vulnerable?30:31Courtney: I know you take deep timelines when you meet with someone, so you're really accounting for a lot. But one of the things that I think about a lot is: who is most vulnerable? Do some of us come into the world already with a vulnerability similar to Elaine Aron's highly sensitive person model? And then maybe there's trauma, early attachment disruption — and already vulnerabilities — but then the toxic load that we're all experiencing. But then something like mold or Lyme then hits. And then, all the years and all the patients you've seen — I'm curious how many you feel already had sort of a vulnerability. Not that they ever had to really become sick necessarily, but already had a vulnerability.Neil: Honestly, I would say most. Our limbic system evolves from the time we were in our mother's uterus, so that almost no one has had a perfect childhood. And so whatever someone has had to deal with in childhood — it could be recurrent ear infections or throat infections, or it could be a surgical procedure, or it could be parents, both of whom worked and they didn't get enough time, or they could be abusive parents, sexually, physically, verbally abusive — whatever someone has been exposed to, that forces their limbic system to have to deal with it. Because that's the job of the limbic system, is to keep you safe. So your limbic system is basically going, “Okay, I'm just a little thing here, what do I need to do to cope with this?” And so their limbic system slowly, inexorably, becomes more and more hypervigilant to protect them. Let's say someone had an alcoholic parent, and they would come home, and you were never sure what their status would be — and so you'd kind of hold yourself back from that, which is, “I've got to see what this person is showing me, is it safe for me to come up and give them a hug, or do I want to hang out in my room for a bit until whatever this is settles down?” That's the beginning of this limbic hypervigilance process. And then it just goes on through life. So that if you've had difficult relationships, or surgeries, or severe infections, or anything in the physical or emotional or spiritual plane, a betrayal of some type — the limbic system becomes slowly more and more and more hypervigilant, when the straw hits the camel's back. And that straw could be COVID, or Lyme, or mold toxicity, or another infection of some type — that's the straw that breaks the camel's back. At that point the limbic system goes into shutdown, which — we know the vagal system goes into shutdown, literally, that's something the vagal system is trained to do. It's “okay, we are so unsafe that I'm shutting down my systems here.” And so that predisposes to illness. But I want to tie that back to inflammation, which — a lot of people don't understand that the vagus nerve, for example, controls inflammation in the body also. There are branches of the vagus that go to the spleen, to the gut-associated lymphoid tissue, and to the thymus, all of which are major immune organs. And if the vagus is dysfunctional, inflammation can rage out of control. So again, this comes back to understanding this complexity of inflammation, and how we need to both understand it and know where it is we want to look to get at that inflammation. So there is a profound interconnected limbic-vagal-mast cell piece. Each totally connects to the other. There's an interaction between the thousand biochemical mediators that mast cells make and the nervous system itself. So I call this interconnection the trifecta, which is: you can't just treat the limbic system in a vacuum, because if you're not also looking at the vagal and mast cell system, your treatment may be a little bit helpful, or it might not even work at all, until you combine all three — so that you really understand this is a package deal here, in terms of how we work with it.There was one more piece I wanted to add, Courtney, to understanding the inflammation piece: whether or not someone gets mold toxicity or Lyme or COVID depends on how robust their immune system is. So you could have a family living in a moldy environment — one person is really sick, several are a little bit sick, and one is not sick at all. And the one who's not sick at all can easily go, “I'm not sure what's wrong with you all, but I'm fine in this environment, it can't be my environment because I'm fine.” And what they're not understanding is: yes, they are fine, as long as their immune system stays robust. For the others, they were at risk for all of these conditions because their immune system took a hit. And for many people who were living in a moldy environment, during COVID, for example, when we isolated and people were spending twenty-four hours in their home rather than the eight hours out, they were many now being exposed to more mold at home than they were before. I don't think people began to think about that or look at that. So in that environment, whether or not they were affected depends on the hit they took. Now, the things that will hit an immune system to weaken it, and allow whatever's there to manifest, are: COVID was a biggie, any severe infection, a surgical procedure, childbirth, menopause, or any emotional upheaval will weaken that immune system, and then the immune system loses containment, and now we are off to the races. So what I try to convince people who are living in a moldy environment who are well is that they're living with a ticking time bomb. Should they take an immune hit, they will be just as sick as their family member who they're kind of lording it over, which is, “I'm not sick, what's wrong with you?” You'll be right there yourself if you take that hit — to try to help them understand, yeah, you're okay for now, but once your immune system weakens. So I'm trying to tie together the immune system, its ability to regulate inflammation, and this whole process here.Courtney: Right, right. Which I guess is why we call it complex, complex illness.Neil: It is the way human beings are. We're not making up a new word of complex illness — illness was always complex. We're just beginning to understand how complex it always has been.The Limits of Treating Symptoms Alone44:39Courtney: Right, so there's communities out there addressing mast cell activation. There's communities out there addressing POTS and dysautonomia. Communities out there addressing OCD and more obvious limbic-type issues. And then there's the whole mental health field. And the dots aren't getting connected. I mean, I've yet to see someone with OCD — I think it's like eighty to ninety-five percent have mold toxicity as part of the picture.Neil: You know, an example — and I won't name names — is there's an eminent pediatric physician who is very well known for his work in autism, who thought he was ADD his whole life until he recognized that he had mold toxicity and started taking antifungals, and all of a sudden his brain went online and he doesn't have it anymore. So that's just a very clear example of what you're talking about. And what we are talking about is: it's absolutely essential that all people who work in the medical field, all healthcare providers, embrace this complexity, because if you're only working on a piece of it, you will help some people to a certain extent, but you will not help people optimally. I mean, that is the absolute bottom line.The understanding that mast cell activation was huge came in 2016, when Larry Afrin wrote his book, Never Bet Against Occam. It was a huge game changer. When I read his book, it was like, “My goodness, I've been missing this in my patients.” And the whole world embraced this information, so that every medical center in the country now has a mast cell activation clinic. However, they're looking at it as a single thing with a label to it, and they're treating it just that way. They have not recognized that if they don't add limbic and vagal work to it, their treatment is not going to be adequate. And so, yes, they're helping people, but absolutely not optimally. And to make it worse, very few of those clinics have recognized that what's causing mast cell activation, which absolutely needs to be treated, is mold toxicity and Lyme. So people go to these clinics and get a certain amount of help, but they're not being treated comprehensively, which is a pet peeve of mine — which is, come on, if you're going to have a clinic, understand the whole interactions of whatever name it is you're working with. If you're going to be an ENT specialist, understand everything that impacts that area. If you're going to be a cardiologist, understand everything that impacts it. And we just don't see that. We see people kind of in their little box — “No, no, I've learned this, this is what I do, this is how I work” — and it's just unfortunate that they're not looking at the bigger picture.Courtney: Right, I think add to that PANS and PANDAS, because in psychiatry, people feel like they're deep diving because they're getting to PANS and PANDAS. It's like, okay, you've got to go deeper than that, because even those conferences, they talk about the need for treating relapse, and it's just going to keep reoccurring.Neil: I mean, they're using IVIG to help. That's nice, but they're not getting to cause. And we know when PANS and PANDAS first emerged on the scene, it was all about strep, and that was the focus for a long time. But as time emerged, it was very clear that this was a neurological inflammation triggered — here we go, broken record — Lyme, mold, other infectious agents had to be looked for. And if we treated those, you could cure PANS. It wasn't something that needed IVIG for the rest of your earthly life.Courtney: Even among those, would you say very often mold is underlying the mycoplasma, the candida?Neil: I think mold is one of the most missed components to illness that I can think of. If I have a goal in life, it would be to raise the consciousness of our profession as to the importance of mold toxicity, how common it is. We're talking millions and millions of people who are not diagnosed, because their doctors don't know about it, and therefore are not making the diagnosis. I'd love to see the consciousness get to the point that someone would present with these complicated stories and a doctor would say, “Why don't we think about mold toxicity?” That would be the most important thing I would have done in my career.Courtney: Yeah, well, you're certainly raising awareness.Neil: I'm working — it is slow. As we said, I'm working on a twenty-year generational issue here.Courtney: You've mentioned that the underlying source needs to be addressed, but the nervous system and immune systems need to be addressed. So one of the things that comes up with limbic system retraining is: I've had people hear the message that if they just address their limbic and autonomic nervous system, then they wouldn't need to address what I see as an ongoing threat, such as a mold toxin. So I'm hoping you can speak to that, and the importance of these programs, despite that.Neil: Sure. A couple of the better-known limbic retraining programs, the coaches get a little bit zealous about — “limbic retraining is so important, this is all you need to do alone, don't even do anything else, just do limbic retraining.” And I suspect that there are a handful, very few, but a handful of people who've gotten well just doing limbic retraining. If, for example, if you had mold toxicity, if it was relatively new, if you had not colonized, and you moved out of your mold exposure soon, it is possible that the limbic retraining would help reboot it to the point that your immune system rebooted itself and you'd be fine. I believe there are a few people like that. The vast majority of people who have limbic dysfunction — you need to do limbic retraining and vagal retraining. You may also need to do mast cell retraining, and please look for the cause of that. Those are downstream effects, those are not named diagnoses that you treat alone and it fixes it. Please look for at least mold and Lyme, which are the two most common things that are triggering this at this point. And people are getting the wrong message if they think they need to do it in a vacuum. To make it worse, they're being told, “No, no, just do limbic retraining, that's all you need.” And the truth is, no, you need to combine limbic retraining and vagal rebooting and mast cell activation most of the time. And of course you've got to get back to cause.Courtney: Right, I mean I try to liken it to — if they were in an abusive relationship or toxic relationship, they wouldn't just limbic-system their way out of that, if there was an external threat.Biochemical Contributors47:35Neil: No, you've got to fix what's primary here. I want to add to this discussion — we're focusing on inflammation from toxins and infections, but there are also other biochemical issues, some of them downstream, that need to be looked for and addressed in order for people to recover completely. So, for example, Lyme and mold will trigger kryptopyrrole issues, or imbalances in the ratio between zinc and copper, or they'll trigger methylation issues super commonly. And I just wanted to expand this discussion — I know it's complicated enough, but I don't want to oversimplify it either — that there are other biochemical things that we want to be looking for, because they're treatable, and they will help people to heal faster, if we're also addressing methylation, the need for zinc, the need for magnesium or B6 — those are common components of this whole process here. And so I just want to kind of tie that all together for a moment.Courtney: No, I'm glad you did, because those are topics that I talk about here, so it's important to connect those. The other thing I see, because I integrate the Walsh approaches with treating people that have complex health issues, is zinc seems so amazing when it comes to mast cell activation — making sure that's optimized. As well as connective tissue — and that was something else I wanted to ask you about — is structural issues that can be impacting the autonomic nervous system. I just see a lot of people — I inquire about it because I had it myself — but who have upper cervical instability as part of this whole picture.Structural Contributors49:26Neil: Again, all of these things are interrelated, and the physical structure can prevent people from moving forward in several different ways. One is the structure of the jaw and the face — the body puts a priority on teeth occluding properly. And if the teeth don't meet just quite right, and the jaw is a little bit out of structure, people often talk about TMJ — the body basically freaks out, it goes into sympathetic overdrive. And for some patients — it's not common, but I've seen several dozen — where the jaw had to be realigned by a combination of dentists specially trained in this work, working with osteopathic physicians, to realign the jaw. Often in those patients, they couldn't respond to the limbic and vagal treatment until their jaw got realigned.Same thing is true with what you're talking about, as cervical cranial instability, which is basically a weakening of the ligaments at the base of the skull, where it attaches to the first cervical vertebra. Now, these are all again intertwined — for example, it begs the question of what weakens those ligaments. And the answer is: if you have mast cell activation, some of the materials that the mast cell makes weakens the ligaments. So the ligaments get weak, and where the skull attaches to the first cervical vertebra, instead of being pulled apart, like ligaments do, it collapses. And that influences the blood flow to the brain, the nerve flow to the brain. And again, the body recognizes that as a priority, and often you can't get that better — you can't get limbic and vagal response until that gets fixed.So there are a bunch of structural issues that also need to be looked at, when people become overly sensitive and are not responding properly. And there's more in that area. So, for example, there's a chapter by Tasha Turzo, who's an expert on the jaw structure. There's a chapter in there by Andy Maxwell on cervical cranial instability. So that book would give people a really good overview of how complicated things are, and they might, chapter by chapter, get a clue of, “I haven't looked at this piece yet.” I mean, we haven't talked about oxalate or salicylate imbalances, which can add to that. So I just think that is a resource for folks that could really help them understand how they've gotten where they are, and understand the path out.Courtney: Right, right, because not everyone has all of these areas, but certainly could be held back or have a unique something that they could be getting relief from early on in the process. So I think it's both, to the degree that people are able to learn, and your book Toxic, too — it's like an encyclopedia, even if someone doesn't read straight through it, they can go to the mast cell section, or they can go to the Bartonella section.Neil: It was intended to be a readable way to understand this complexity, because it basically will talk about almost everything we've talked about today, and help people to get better understanding. I mean, we've talked about the bigger picture today. We didn't talk about, okay, how do you diagnose Lyme, how do you diagnose mold toxicity, how do you diagnose long-haul COVID, and most important, because this is very complicated, how do you decide which of those is the biggest player that you want to address first?Distinguishing Between Mold, Lyme & Long-COVID53:58Courtney: Right, I have shared resources on diagnosing mold toxicity. Would you comment on your last point — how do you recognize, are you using specific testing that you want to reference, the RealTime?Neil: I do. But I would emphasize, we're taught in medical school that if you really listen to patients, ninety-five percent of the time you will make the diagnosis by history alone. And I don't want to get too focused on testing, because listening to the patient and having them describe in detail what they're going through will really give you the little pieces you need to tease it apart to a certain degree. That's only possible to a certain degree, because there's a huge overlap between the symptoms of Lyme and Bartonella and mold and long-haul COVID and mast cell activation. Huge overlap. So there's little teeny pieces that will tend to lean more in one way than another. And honestly, that's what's required from all of us, literally years of study, to really get a handle on — someone will say something, okay, that's much more of a mold symptom than it is a Lyme symptom, something else. So I do encourage people, if they think they might have mold, to get a urine mycotoxin test. That has revolutionized our ability to make these diagnoses.Courtney: Would you still set RealTime as the preferred? That's what I've communicated to this audience.Neil: I would. Any test can help make the diagnosis, but for follow-up testing, the only one that's been really consistent is RealTime. And you want a follow-up test, so you want to know what your baseline starting is, and then you want to know, okay, am I getting these toxins out of my body? From my perspective, you know that you're done treating it when that RealTime comes back reading not present in every category. We have better tests now for Lyme than we've had in the past. Years ago, our tests were inadequate to say the least. And the CDC recognized years ago that the tests were so inadequate that it was basically a diagnosis made by a physician by examining all of the history and information that you had. That was enough — you didn't need a lab report to make the diagnosis of Lyme disease. A new test that I'm particularly fond of is Bruce Patterson's fourteen-panel cytokine test. This is a test that measures cytokines, which are the molecules of inflammation — cytokines are made by your immune system to deal with, or fight, different inflammational causes. And so what Dr. Patterson has discovered is there's a pattern of cytokines that we see with long-haul COVID, which is different than the pattern we see for Lyme. And I'm working with him now on the pattern for mold. So we can literally look at that test and look at, okay, what is inflaming this person primarily now, because I'm looking at that inflammational pattern, and I can literally read that. Some of my patients will have all of those on a particular test, or only one, but it really helps tease apart what is — I call it public enemy number one for my patient, what do I need to address as root cause right now. So our science is improving as we go here.A Message of Hope — and Where to Learn More58:49Courtney: And that's huge. Before we go — I think all of your books, but I'm thinking specifically about Toxic and The Sensitive Patient — all the information you generously share gives people a lot of hope who've been struggling out there. And I think your mentoring and teaching so many of us helps extend some of that reach. Is there anything you'd want to convey to people out there in the throes of chronic illness who are feeling hopeless and not getting the feedback from their doctors that this is something they can get beyond?Neil: Sure. My take-home message is always: everything we talked about today is treatable. Is there hope in there? You bet there is. But if you are not getting the help you need from whoever you are seeing, find someone who understands these things. For example, I do have on my website a list of physicians that I've trained over the years that I'm comfortable that they really know what they're doing — it's a growing list. There's someone like Courtney, who's been trained for years to do this, she's good at it. Find someone who knows what they're talking about, so that you can get someone who does embrace this complexity, and will look at it in its entirety, and then get you moving in the right direction, doing the right things in the right order. To me, this can be done. I mean, I have personally helped to cure four or five thousand people with mold toxicity, and an equal number of people with Lyme disease. So we can help the vast majority of people that we're seeing. So, regardless of how long you've been sick, if you haven't been properly diagnosed and you haven't gotten the right treatment, you can be helped.Courtney: Right, right, that's great. And for physicians out there who are interested in learning more about complex chronic illness — are there resources you would point to? I'll be sharing your books, because I think those are great references — but also how people can find what you're doing currently.Neil: Sure, my books — particularly with this discussion, Toxic and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide would be the two most appropriate. I would add that I have just finished writing a book on this whole subject of inflammation. It's currently being edited, I hope it'll be out by early next year. So if you stay tuned to my website, I'll let people know when that's going to be available. And I think, Courtney, what you're referring to is: I do have a mentorship program for healthcare providers. We now have three hundred and fifty-plus people in the mentorship program, it keeps growing. You were in one of the first groups — we started with eight, and then people kept wanting to get in on it. So we welcome people to join. If you go to my website, which is simply neilnathanmd.com, there's a whole thing which talks about the mentorship and how to sign up for it. So I certainly welcome people who want to learn more.Courtney: And then you offer consultations and professional consultations also?Neil: I do. My consultations — I am, at this point, since I'm semi-retired, not seeing people directly. But I do offer consultations with a patient and their primary treating physician — so we all get on a Zoom together, and we will go over the details of that person's history and their lab work, and I will help outline a treatment program that looks to me like it will get people well. And actually, Courtney, I actually do a lot of that — I'm not really retired, my wife will tell you. I stay pretty busy. I love helping people. I love being able to take this complicated information and tease it apart, so that I can help people to understand what they need to do, in what order, in order to get better.Courtney: And we're all grateful — grateful that you've followed your path, because so many people have benefited personally and professionally. So thank you for bringing your wisdom and expertise, really appreciate it.Neil: You're very welcome, happy to do that.You can find Dr. Nathan's information, consultations, and mentoring program through his website at neilnathanmd.com. If you'd like to help get this information out into the world, please consider liking, sharing, or commenting.Until next time,CourtneyCourtney Snyder MDDr. Courtney Snyder MD is a holistic, functional, and environmental psychiatrist for children and adults. Find her at courtneysnydermd.com and on the Holistic Psychiatry Podcast on all major platforms.Medical DisclaimerThis podcast is for educational purposes only and is not intended or implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Consult your own physician for any medical issues you may be having. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit courtneysnydermd.substack.com

Today, I'm excited to share Part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Neil Nathan.  In Part 1, we covered mold toxicity in depth, which set the stage for today's discussion. In this episode, we discuss Lyme disease, clarifying why it is challenging to diagnose and highlighting herbal protocols that can be helpful. Dr. Nathan also offers his recommendations for patients who have been struggling for years without finding a solution. How to treat Lyme disease without worsening herxheimer reactions: Reduce treatment doses if symptoms worsen instead of pushing through the discomfort Avoid killing the bacteria faster than your body can process the released toxins  Start with extremely small treatment doses if you are highly sensitive Recognize that even tiny amounts of treatment can still move your recovery forward Focus on steady, tolerable progress rather than aggressive treatment strategies Bio: Dr. Neil Nathan Neil Nathan, MD, has been practicing medicine for over 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management, and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI.  He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks.  He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness, (2nd edition just released).  Winter of 2021 he saw the publication of Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, was released in 2024, and the 2nd edition of Toxic is just out in September, 2025.  In this episode: The importance of getting to the root cause before detoxing  Dr. Nathan describes the symptoms of Lyme disease Supporting detox pathways when treating for mold toxicity and other chronic infections Why some people are very sensitive, and how Dr. Nathan's treatment approach differs for those individuals How limbic system dysfunction drives sensory and mood-related issues Why the vagus and limbic systems must be rebooted together for proper recovery, and how it's done The importance of identifying and treating mast cell activation How exposure to mold and other environmental toxins can impact your longevity Links and Resources: Integrative Health and Hormone Clinic (IHH Clinic)

Have you ever experienced unexplained fatigue, brain fog, chronic pain, or mysterious symptoms no one can figure out? If so, today's conversation may possibly change everything for you. I am thrilled to have Dr. Neil Nathan join me for a two-part series. Today, in Part 1, we explore mold toxicity, clarify what it is, and explain why it is often overlooked, how to know if it's affecting you, and most importantly, what you can do about it. How to Effectively Address Mold Toxicity Remove yourself from the moldy environment Use binders to target the specific mycotoxins identified in your body Treat mold colonization in your sinuses or gut if necessary Combine an antifungal treatment with agents to break down any protective biofilms Continue with the treatment until your mold toxin levels have decreased and all your symptoms are resolved Bio: Dr. Neil Nathan Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for over 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI.  He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks.  He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness, (2nd edition just released).  Winter of 2021 he saw the publication of Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, was released in 2024 and the 2nd edition of Toxic is just out in September, 2025.  In this episode: Why mold toxicity is far more common than most people realize How mold toxicity can affect multiple organ systems at the same time How both mold toxicity and Lyme disease can cause widespread, systemic inflammation, and their symptoms can overlap The subtle neurological and mood changes that could show up before a diagnosis How unexplained symptoms are sometimes dismissed  Why modern homes with reduced airflow could increase the risk of mold-related illness How today's toxic environment can stress the liver and kidneys- our organs of detoxification How the concept of mold toxicity has not yet been embraced by conventional medicine  Links and Resources: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sinus Support Use code BIND to get 10% off ⁠⁠⁠ENVIROBIND ⁠https://yourlongevityblueprint.com/product/glutathione-60-ct/ Guest Social Media Links: Instagram (@askdrnathan)  Website Relative Links for This Show: Follow Your Longevity Blueprint  On Instagram| Facebook| Twitter| YouTube | LinkedIn Get your copy of the Your Longevity Blueprint book and claim your bonuses here Find Dr. Stephanie Gray and Your Longevity Blueprint online   Follow Dr. Stephanie Gray  On Facebook| Instagram| Youtube | Twitter | LinkedIn Integrative Health and Hormone Clinic Podcast production by Team Podcast

I am honored to connect with Dr. Neil Nathan today. Dr. Nathan has been practicing medicine for over 50 years. He is board-certified in family medicine and pain management, a founding diplomat of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine, and a founding member of the International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness. He is also a published author and has recently released an updated and expanded version of his book, Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. In our discussion, we explore various complex medical illnesses and the effects of mold, chronic inflammation, immunosenescence, and genetics on the immune system, vagus nerve, and limbic system. We discuss mold exposure and colonization, and what that means for midlife women, along with MCAS, Lyme disease, and mast cell degranulation, and we examine Epstein-Barr as a symptom rather than a primary driver. We also cover limbic and vagal retraining, and Dr. Nathan shares his systematic approach to supporting the adrenal glands and to detoxification efforts in treatment. This episode with the renowned Dr. Neil Nathan is like a mini masterclass on complex medical illnesses. I found his book super-informative and probably the most systematic source I've ever read on mold, Lyme, and complex medical problems. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN: • How our current medical system fails to support complex patients • How limited appointment times prevent root-cause investigation • What mold colonization means and why its location in the body matters • Why leaving a moldy environment does not always resolve symptoms • How Epstein-Barr often signals immune dysfunction rather than causing it • Why limbic retraining is essential in today's world • Dr. Nathan shares his systematic approach to adrenal support  • Practical steps to support liver, gut, kidney, and lymphatic detoxification • Why addressing mold and Candida must precede SIBO treatment Connect with Cynthia Thurlow   Follow on X, Instagram & LinkedIn Check out Cynthia's website Submit your questions to support@cynthiathurlow.com Join other like-minded women in a supportive, nurturing community (The Midlife Pause/Cynthia Thurlow)  Cynthia's Menopause Gut Book is on presale now! Cynthia's Intermittent Fasting Transformation Book The Midlife Pause supplement line Connect with Dr. Neil Nathan On his website

Dr. Hoffman continues his conversation with Dr. Neil Nathan, author of “Toxic 2nd Edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness.”

Understanding and Treating Complex Illnesses with Dr. Neil Nathan, author of “Toxic 2nd Edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness.” Dr. Nathan shares his expertise on the multifaceted nature of chronic illnesses, which often defy simple categorization and may be misdiagnosed as psychiatric issues. The discussion covers the impact of environmental toxins, electromagnetic fields, and infections like Lyme disease and long COVID. Dr. Nathan also highlights the importance of understanding inflammation's complex pathways and offers suggestions for both elimination of root causes and restoration of immune system functionality. The episode provides insights into new diagnostic tools and treatment methodologies for persistent and intrusive health issues.

View the Show Notes For This Episode Dr. Neil Nathan discusses Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, and Environmental Toxins with Dr. Ben Weitz.   [If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, so more people will find The Rational Wellness Podcast. Also check out the video version on my WeitzChiro YouTube page.]  Podcast Highlights Understanding and Treating Complex Chronic Illnesses with Dr. Neil Nathan   In this episode of the Rational Wellness Podcast, host Dr. Ben Weitz interviews Dr. Neil Nathan, an expert in treating complex chronic illnesses such as mold toxicity, Lyme disease, mast cell activation syndrome, and multiple chemical sensitivities. Dr. Nathan shares insights from his 50-year career, including how to identify these conditions through specific symptoms and the importance of environment assessment. They discuss effective testing methods, treatment approaches, and managing coexisting conditions. The conversation also covers the role of mold in these chronic illnesses and underlines the necessity of personalized treatment plans. Dr. Nathan also touches on the significance of limbic and vagal nerve treatments and shares his experience with various diagnostic and therapeutic tools.   00:00 Introduction to the Rational Wellness Podcast 00:29 Meet Dr. Neil Nathan: Pioneer in Treating Complex Chronic Illnesses 02:02 Understanding Mold Toxicity and Lyme Disease 05:58 Testing for Mold and Lyme: Effective Methods and Challenges 18:26 Mast Cell Activation Syndrome: Symptoms and Diagnosis 21:31 Approach to Treating Complex Patients 28:16 Mold Treatment Protocols and Environmental Considerations 31:25 Understanding Mycotoxin Binders 32:00 Antifungal Treatments for Mold Colonization 32:22 Detoxification Strategies and Patient Sensitivity 35:00 Combination Binders and Patient Sensitivity 39:45 Probiotics and Antibiotics for Lyme and Bartonella 45:42 Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and Limbic System Reboot 51:50 Common Mistakes in Treating Chronic Illness 58:01 Final Thoughts and Resources     Dr. Neil Nathan is a Medical Doctor who is a pioneer in the treatment of complex chronic illnesses including mold toxicity, Lyme disease, mast cell activation syndrome, multiple chemical sensitivities, and other environmental illnesses. Dr. Nathan has spent 50 years treating some of the most sensitive and complex patients recover their health and studying and learning and teaching how to treat such patients. He has written a number of books, including On Hope and Healing, Healing is Possible, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment 2016 (just updated, as an e-book, Mold and Mycotoxins 2022), Toxic 2nd edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness, Energetic Diagnosis, and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide.  His website is NeilNathanMD.com. Dr. Ben Weitz is available for Functional Nutrition consultations specializing in Functional Gastrointestinal Disorders like IBS/SIBO and Reflux and also Cardiometabolic Risk Factors like elevated lipids, high blood sugar, and high blood pressure.  Dr. Weitz has also successfully helped many patients with managing their weight and improving their athletic performance, as well as sports chiropractic work by calling his Santa Monica office 310-395-3111.  

Why You Should Listen:  In this episode, you will learn about the latest approaches to healing your body from mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and other complex, chronic health conditions. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Neil Nathan.  Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for over 50 years and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including "Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses" and "On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks."  He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his eBook, "Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016" (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness."  2021 saw the publication of "Energetic Diagnosis," a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness.  In 2024, his book "The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide" was released with a focus on how to approach the treatment of sensitive patients.  And most recently, in late 2025, the second edition of his book "Toxic" was released with several years of new information and insights on healing from complex chronic conditions.  Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 30 years now, and Lyme disease for the past 20 years.  As his practice has evolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments, and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them to recover. Key Takeaways: Is Long COVID the Great Unmasker? Is POTS an underlying cause or is it a symptom? How might the Radiance Long Hauler testing be helpful? What supplements or botanicals may be helpful for those in a Cell Danger Response? Are hormones generally well-tolerated when one is in a Cell Danger Response? When might be the right time to introduce PC?  VIP? What are the more common sensitizers of a sensitive patient? What are the more common drivers of MCAS? What are some strategies for modulating the inflammatory response? Is MCS the same as MCAS? Should limbic retraining be more active? How often are mycotoxins seen in patients with Alzheimer's? Does HLA-DR impact a patient's recovery potential? How do you handle a suspected mold illness patient when their urine mycotoxin testing is negative? What is the best binder for mycophenolic acid?  Chaetoglobosin? Do the benefits of bentonite clay outweigh the potential risks? What is the source of gliotoxin in the body? How is the treatment of fungal colonization approached? What role have Actinobacteria and endotoxins played in treating patients? Can Bartonella be treated with natural antimicrobials alone? Does treating mold and Lyme improve EDS? Can secondary porphyria be an indication that the antimicrobial is working? What is the role of EMFs in chronic illness? How large of a factor are parasites? Do mold and Lyme contribute to ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, autism, and PANS/PANDAS? What is the role of nitric oxide in recovering health? Connect With My Guest:  NeilNathanMD.com Related Resources: Toxic 2nd Edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness Interview Date: September 29, 2025 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode223. Support the Show: To support the show and Buy Me a Coffee, visit https://betterhealthguy.link/BuyMeACoffee. Additional Information: To learn more, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com. Follow Me on Social Media: Facebook - https://facebook.com/betterhealthguy Instagram - https://instagram.com/betterhealthguy X - https://twitter.com/betterhealthguy TikTok - https://tiktok.com/@betterhealthguy Disclaimer:  The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority. 

Dr Neil Nathan:Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for over 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness. Winter of 2021 saw the publication of Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His newest book is planned for release by January, 2024, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide. He can be contacted most easily through his website www.neilnathanmd.com, through which consultations are available. He is currently providing mentorship in the treatment of chronic inflammatory illness to approximately 200 physicians, with Jill Crista, ND and for those interested in mentorship, please use the website to register. Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 30 years now, and Lyme disease for the past 20 years. As his practice has evolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments, and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them to recover.Dr Neil Nathan's Links:Website: www.neilnathanmd.comFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/thecuttingedgeofhealthandwellnesstoday/Dr Steph's Links: Mast Cell Course: https://stephaniepeacock.com/mast-cellTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drstephpeacock Instgram: https://www.instagram.com/drstephpeacock/ Sunlighten: https://www.facebook.com/HealthyGutCompany/ code: DRPEACOCK Airdoctor: https://stephaniepeacock.com/affiliate-airdoctor AquaTru: https://stephaniepeacock.com/affiliate-aquatru Prolon: https://stephaniepeacock.com/affiliate-prolon Work with me: https://stephaniepeacock.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter: https://stephanies-newsletter-c410d1.beehiiv.com/subscribe

This is episode 34 of the Love, Hope, Lyme podcast. Fred Diamond's popular book, "Love, Hope, Lyme: What Family Members, Partners, and Friends Who Love a Chronic Lyme Survivor Need to Know" offers those who love someone with persistent or chronic Lyme ideas and tips to support this beloved person. It also helps Lyme survivors know how to ask for support. On today's episode, Fred interviews Dr. Neil Nathan to discuss his new book "The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide: Top Experts Offer New Insights and Treatments for Environmental Toxins, Lyme Disease, and Emfs." When Fred was first discovering the trauma related to tick-borne diseases, one of the first books he read was Dr. Nathan's classic "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness." It helped him understand how difficult mold allergies can be to treat and how much interplay there is with Lyme disease. Dr. Nathan discussed many of the complications sensitive patients go through in finding treatments to get healthy. Fred digs deep so that Lyme survivors can find some peace and suggestions on how to get treatment, and, as he always does, how those who love and want to support someone they love with Lyme disease can support them. If someone you love has been afflicted with Lyme disease, watch this podcast now. If you have Lyme disease, listen for ways to get the support you need. The e-version of Fred's book is always free for Lyme survivors. Just reach out to Fred on Facebook or LinkedIn. The print copy can be ordered at https://www.amazon.com/Love-Hope-Lyme-Partners-Survivor-ebook/dp/B0B9Q8LX7G/.

Welcome to Episode 212 of Autism Parenting Secrets. We're excited to welcome Dr. Neil Nathan, a renowned family physician with over five decades of experience, to our podcast this week.Dr. Nathan has been a pioneer in bridging conventional and alternative medicine, especially for complex chronic conditions. His influential books, On Hope and Healing and Toxic, have challenged traditional medical boundaries.In his latest book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, Dr. Nathan delves into the challenges faced by those hypersensitive to their environments, offering new methodologies and practical solutions. With insights from 20 guest authors, this episode is packed with valuable information for parents navigating the complexities of autism.The secret this week is...You Can't Heal If You Don't Feel SAFEYou'll Discover:How Integrative Medicine Has More Answers (3:55)Why We Need A New System (8:27)The Problem With Chat Rooms (11:37)The Backstory Of An Incredibly Unique Book (15:40)Why It All Comes Down To SAFETY (19:13)The Key Role Of The Limbic System And Why It's Relevant In ASD (21:16)The Importance Of The Vagal Nerve System For Children And Parents (25:05)A Key Hopeful Message To Consider (25:55)The Causes of Limbic and Vagal Dysfunction, Including Two Big Ones (29:42)Mold Toxicity And Lyme Disease Are More Prevalent Than You Think (38:53)A Great Mycotoxin Test (41:28)A Great Lyme Test (42:56)Where to Find The Right Practitioners (45:38)What Mast Cell Activation Looks Like (47:21)The Trifecta Of Systems That Must Be Addressed Simultaneously (50:18)Ways To Quiet The Limbic and Vagal Systems (53:25)Why EMFs Are A Big Deal (1:06:24)About Our Guest:Neil Nathan, MD, has practiced medicine for over 50 years, with Board Certifications in Family Practice and Pain Management. He is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and ISEAI. Dr. Nathan has authored several books, including Healing is Possible and On Hope and Healing. He hosted the podcast The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today and lectures internationally on mold toxicity. His notable works include Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. His latest book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, was released in January 2024. Dr. Nathan provides mentorship to around 200 physicians and specializes in treating patients with chronic complex medical illnesses and extreme sensitivities.www.neilnathanmd.comReferences in The Episode:Dr. Robert NaviauxSid BakerDr. Pejman Katiraeiwholistickids.comAutism Parenting Secrets Episode 95, “Mold Is A Bigger Threat Than You Think” with Dr. Pejman KatiraeiRealTime Labs Mycotoxin TestIGeneX Lyme ImmunoBlot TestMedical Academy of Pediatric & Special Needs (MAPS)Kurt Woeller MDPrimal Trust by Cathleen KingAnnie Hopper - The Dynamic Neural Retraining System DNRSAshok Gupta Program Brain RetrainingFrequency Specific MicrocurrentAppoloNeuroDr. Porges Safe & Sound ProtocolOur Polyvagal World: How Safety and Trauma Change Us by Stephen Porges and Seth PorgesThe LENSNon-Tinfoil Guide to EMFs by Nicolas PineaultAutism Parenting Secrets Episode 108, “EMFS Impact Kids More” with Nick PineaultAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What's YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

Why You Should Listen:  In this episode, you will learn about a healing guide to support sensitive patients in restoring health. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Neil Nathan.  Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 50 years.  He has written several books including: "Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses" and "On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks".   He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his eBook "Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment", and then to his best-selling book "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness".   His 2021 book "Energetic Diagnosis" is a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His new book "The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide" was released in early 2024.  He is currently providing mentorship in the treatment of chronic inflammatory illness to approximately 150 physicians, with Jill Crista, ND.  Key Takeaways: What is the difference between sensitivity and toxicity? What is the limbic, vagal, mast cell triad? What tools can be used to support the limbic system and vagus nerve? How might structure be supported without exogenous collagen supplementation? What are the many roles of Epsom Salt baths in working with sensitive patients? What are some potential triggers of Spiky-Leaky Syndrome? What is a Homeostasis Associated Molecular Pattern (HAMP)? Is urine mycotoxin testing a clinically helpful tool? Are there any tests for exploring fungal colonization? What tools have emerged in the treatment of Lyme disease? Is 5G really a problem when it comes to EMF sensitivity? Does working in the mental/emotional, limbic, and vagal realm support detoxification? Is the concern about oxalates more about dietary exposure or fungal colonization? How might salicylate intolerance be approached? What role do structural issues play in sensitive patients? Can benzodiazepine withdrawal be another contributor in sensitization? What are some of the factors that may impact thiamine? What is the role of RANTES as a marker of inflammation? Can people be allergic to their own hormones? Is carbon monoxide a sensitizing agent? Does treating Bartonella potentially serve as a trigger for secondary porphyria? What interventions may support those dealing with spikeopathies? What are some of the many beneficial properties of ketamine in working with sensitive patients? Connect With My Guest:  http://NeilNathanMD.com Related Resources:  Book: The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide Interview Date: April 25, 2024 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode200. Additional Information: To learn more, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com. Disclaimer:  The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority. 

As sensitive patients, it can be challenging to navigate the world of healthcare and find the right treatments that work for us. Dr. Neil Nathan shares his expertise on this topic, shedding light on the importance of intuition and the role it plays in our healing journey. During the conversation, Dr. Carnahan and Dr. Nathan explore the significance of listening to our bodies and the signals they give us. They delve into the intricate workings of our limbic system and its impact on our overall well-being. Furthermore, they discuss the vagal nerve's influence on our health and how it affects the chronic illness experience. Key Points ✅ Why conventional medicine ignores the intuition and importance of listening to the patient and how this can transform healing ✅ What is the order of treatment for the highly sensitive patient and how to start treatment with limbic system and vagal nerve. ✅ How to find a practitioner who may help you in the healing process if you are experiencing complex and chronic illness. Related Links PRIMAL TRUST - https://cathleenking.simplero.com/products/143239-Monthly-Membership-PRIMAL-TRUST-Academy?ref=48445-Dr-Jill-Carnahan Gupta Program - https://www.guptaprogram.com/aff/202/ DNRS program - https://www.dnrsonline.com/?wpam_id=92 Dr. Neil Nathan, MD Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 48 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his book, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016 and now to his most recent book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness.

Dr. Neil Nathan joins me on this episode of the Body Literacy Podcast to discuss mold toxicity and something called Cell Danger Response which we will learn is the factor that explains why some people become chronically ill under the exact same circumstances that others may never get sick from at all.Dr. Nathan has been practicing medicine for 50 years and is Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management.  He is also a founding diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine.He is the author of several books including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fribromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks.Dr. Nathan has especially become known for bringing awareness to mold toxicity as a major factor for patients with chronic illness and has written the book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness.Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 30years now, and Lyme disease for the past 20 years. As his practice hasevolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have becomeso sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments,and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them torecover. * * * * *The Body Literacy Podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any statements and views expressed by myself or my guests are not medical advice. The opinions of guests are their own and the Body Literacy Podcast does not endorse or accept responsibility for statements made by guests. If you have a medical problem, please consult a qualified and competent medical professional.The Body Literacy Podcast may promote, affiliate with, or partner with other individuals or businesses whose programs, products and services align with mine and Body Literacy, LLC may receive commissions or compensation for promotion of those products or services.Theme music for the Body Literacy Podcast is provided by Big Wild, https://bigwildmusic.com/ .Be sure to subscribe and sign up for updates at https://JenMayo.com . Follow us on social media @jenmayo.bodyliteracy .As always, five star reviews are appreciated if you enjoy the content on the Body Literacy Podcast. Please visit Apple iTunes Podcasts to leave your rating or review.

When a person wonders what a parent advocate looks like; they need to not look further than Megan Olson. Megan shares, openly and honestly her two - year old's life long battle with mold exposure and CIRS. She shares how it has caused her to find faith, struggle with the balance of being a mom of two and how it has created a new sense of purpose for her family's journey. If you would like to reach out to Megan, you can email her at Meganolson4921@gmail.com  Resources discussed:-Mold Illness: Surviving and Thriving: A Recovery Manual for Patients & Families Impacted By Cirs (1) https://a.co/d/5yyal68 -Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities , and Chronic Environmental Illness https://a.co/d/1XQkghU

Welcome to the 9th episode of The Synthesis of Wellness podcast! Dr. Nathan's bio: "Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness. Winter of 2021 saw the publication of Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His newest book is planned for release by Spring, 2023, Why Am I So Sensitive? (and what to do about it). He can be contacted most easily through his website www.neilnathanmd.com, through which consultations are available. He is currently providing mentorship in the treatment of chronic inflammatory illness to approximately 150 physicians, with Jill Crista, ND and for those interested in mentorship, please use the website to register. Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 30 years now, and Lyme disease for the past 20 years. As his practice has evolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments, and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them to recover." Topics: - Why is mold toxicity and CIRS important? - The Biotoxin Pathway: how does mold toxicity affect cellular chemistry, inflammation, and hormones - Why most all mold patients have SIBO, leaky gut, candida, and mast cell activation - Why you need to treat the mold toxicity before the gut - Mold VS. Candida - Mold colonization? - Binders and toxin-specific binders - Bile and why it is important for detoxification - Reactivity to binders: slow and steady is best - Supporting the liver, gut, kidneys, and lymphatics for detoxification - What are biofilms and why are they important? - Inflammation and mast cell activation - Limbic dysfunction and vagal nerve dysfunction --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/chloe-porter6/support

Dr Neil Nathan has been practicing medicine for 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness. His new book, out winter, 2021, is Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 25 years now, and Lyme disease for the past 15 years. As his practice has evolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments, and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them to recover. To learn more about Dr Nathan, see www.neilnathanmd.com

In this episode of Mold Docs, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Neil Nathan, M.D., researcher, complex medical problem-solver and healer (particularly for mold toxicity), and author.Neil Nathan, MD, has been practicing medicine for almost five decades. He has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject, which led to the publication of several books, including Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, and his most recent book, Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness.In this episode, they dive into:1:00: Dr. Nathan discusses what led him to write his first book, Toxic. Back in the 80s, he began seeing an increasing number of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue cases, but because the medical world was unfamiliar with this condition, patients were sent to therapy. From there, he started connecting the dots to conditions such as mold toxicity and started helping his clients, even though it wasn't the "norm" in the medical world. From there, his journey into mold and understanding how it affects the body took off. This includes studying with Dr. Shoemaker. 6:00: Dr. Nathan goes through his other books and what sparked his desire to keep releasing information about mold, healing, and treatments. 9:30: Dr. Nathan discusses his idea of how many individuals are suffering from mold exposure, his experience in treatment, and the common symptoms he's seen. He goes over mold allergy and mold toxicity as well as the difference between the two. He discusses the influence of genetics and the various other components that result in adverse health reactions. 14:00: Dr. Nathan addresses the misconception that since mold exists in nature, it's no problem for our health. He also discusses mycotoxins, a toxic byproduct of some mold species.16:30: Dr. Nathan discusses why he agrees to disagree with Dr. Shoemaker on the idea that it's not mold growth in a home that's causing health issues, but actinomyces. Michael discusses his related experience and opinions as well. 21:45: Dr. Nathan discusses his new book, Energetic Diagnosis, and the motivation behind writing it. 24:00: Dr. Nathan discusses his short ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins, and its recent rewrite. 34:45: Dr. Nathan discusses his experience with a urine analysis being inconclusive even though the individual is suffering from toxicity and delves into the explanations behind it. 37:00: Dr. Nathan explains how crucial remediation and mold avoidance are in helping patients heal from exposure. You can get better, but you can't heal in the environment that's making you ill. 46:30: Dr. Nathan discusses the need for more studies, technology, and research funding to help better understand mold exposure and the impact it has on health.53:00: Dr. Nathan explains the importance of being patient while healing from mold toxicity because it can take years. But, it is treatable. To Learn More About Dr. Neil Nathan:https://neilnathanmd.com/https://www.amazon.com/Neil-Nathan/e/B004IW6A5A%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_shareThe Mold Medic https://www.themoldmedic.com/https://www.allamericanrestoration.com/

Episode 60 - Mold Toxicity Treatments with Dr. Neil NathanDr. Neil Nathan has been practicing medicine for 48 years, is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including "Toxic: Heal your Body from Mold Sensitivity, Lyme disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness." He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called, "The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today." He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his book, "Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, Revised." As his practice evolved, he found himself increasingly treating patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments. In this episode, Dr. Nathan provides us information on how he is helping mold injured patients and training the new wave of mold doctors. Transcript: https://bit.ly/3uaR3bjResources mentioned in this episode: https://bit.ly/3ug9TO3Find us on Linktree, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,  TikTok and YoutubeNeed help navigating your mold injury without breaking the bank? Join our low cost education group: patreon.com/exposingmoldSponsors: Michael Rubino, The Mold Medic and  All American Restoration,  the first and only mold remediation company in the country specializing in remediating mold for people with underlying health conditions or mold sensitivities. They've quickly become the most recommended remediation company  from doctors and mold inspectors nationwide. Pick up your copy of Michael Rubino's book, “The Mold Medic: An Expert's Guide on Mold Remediation, " here: https://amzn.to/3t7wtaUAt MyGoToDoc.com, you can obtain help from Dr. Syed Haider, who has treated over 40,000 COVID and COVID Long Haul patients with ZERO deaths. Once you sign up to become a patient at MyGoToDoc.com, you can send free messages to Dr. Haider's care team forever and obtain prescription medications from the most affordable pharmacies in the country that ship right to your door. Sign up for MyGoToDoc.com, your go-to resource for COVID-19. Exposing Mold is officially a non-profit! To support our efforts donate here: Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/exposingmold)

Why You Should Listen:  In this episode, you will learn about the evaluation of personal energies using intuition and medical devices to diagnose and treat complex medical illnesses. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Neil Nathan.  Neil Nathan, MD has been a Board-Certified Family Physician and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Holistic Medicine.  He recently retired from clinical practice after nearly 5 decades of patient care.  From the time that he began medical school at the University of Chicago's Pritzker School of Medicine, it has always been his passion to try to help as many of his patients as possible.  He was never satisfied with sending patients home with the cliché: “Sorry, we just don't have any answers for you.” For him, and for his patients, conventional medicine had many answers, but sometimes they weren't enough.  Starting his 50-year medical career as a family physician, he delivered babies, did some minor surgery and worked in the emergency room, providing the most comprehensive care that he could.  Over the years, he found that other disciplines held the promise of providing useful answers for those patients who did not respond adequately to conventional medical care.  Slowly his practice evolved into something new, that did not really have a name, and he called it Complex Medical Problem Solving.  Over time, he found himself working mostly with those unfortunate patients who had not received a clear diagnosis from conventional medicine and were suffering with persistent and debilitating illnesses including Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Chronic Lyme disease with its coinfections, Autism, and all varieties of Chronic Pain, amongst others.  He is the author of several popular books including his 2018 book "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness" and his 2021 book "Energetic Diagnosis" and 2022 update “Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment 2022”. Key Takeaways: Why is conventional medicine not open to many tools in the energy realm? What is the ideal balance of biochemistry vs. physics in a treatment protocol? Is intuition a form of energetic diagnosis? Are empaths more likely to develop physical illnesses? What are energetic cords? What is an energy vampire? Are energy medicine tools necessary as a counterbalance to the increasing levels of EMFs in our environment? What are tools like FSM and LENS? How does one become a healer? What is the piezoelectric effect? Can energetic stagnation be felt using palpation? What can be learned about healing from interactions with plants? Can physical illnesses originate in the spiritual realm? Connect With My Guest: http://NeilNathanMD.com Related Resources: Book: Energetic Diagnosis Book: Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment 2022 Interview Date: January 21, 2022 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode160. Additional Information: To learn more, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com. Disclaimer:  The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority. 

#27 - Can Mold and Lyme Cause Alzheimer's? When confronting cognitive impairment or to minimize its risk it is paramount to consider exposure to toxins such as mold and lyme. Today we are speaking with the expert who literally wrote the book on biotoxins and their affect on the human body.  Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 48 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI [International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness].  He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness which led to the publication of his book, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016 and now to his most recent book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness. His current medical practice is the Redwood Valley Clinic in Northern California. He can be contacted most easily through his website www.neilnathanmd.com , through which consultations are available.         *** CONNECT WITH ROBERT LUFKIN MD ON SOCIAL MEDIA ** Web: https://robertlufkinmd.com/ Twitter:https://twitter.com/robertlufkinmd *** GOT A SUGGESTION FOR A SHOW? *** Contact us at: https://robertlufkinmd.com/contact *** SPONSORSHIPS & BRANDS ***We do work with sponsors and brands. If you are interested in working with us and you have a product or service that is of value to the health industry please contact us at: https://robertlufkinmd.com/contact​  NOTE: This is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have seen here. Robert Lufkin MD may at any time and at its sole discretion change or replace the information available on this channel. To the extent permitted by mandatory law, Robert Lufkin MD shall not be liable for any direct, incidental, consequential, indirect or punitive damages arising out of access to or use of any content available on this channel, including viruses, regardless of the accuracy or completeness of any such content. Disclaimer: We are ambassadors or affiliates for many of the brands we reference on the channel. ————————————————————————#longevity #wellness  #lifestylemedicine #younger  #biohacking #RobertLufkinMD  #lymedisease #mold #mycotoxin #alzheimers #nealnathanmdSupport the show

Why You Should Listen: In this episode, you will learn about Precision Mycotoxin Detoxification and optimizing mycotoxin detoxification associated with mold illness. About My Guest: My guests for this episode are Beth O'Hara, Emily Givler, and Dr. Neil Nathan. Beth O’Hara, FN is a Functional Naturopath and Functional Genetic Analyst working with clients with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and other complex conditions. Emily Givler, DSC is a Functional Genetic Nutrition Consultant, researcher, and lecturer with a thriving clinical practice at Tree of Life Health in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Neil Nathan, MD is the author of several books including "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness" and works with patients with complex, chronic health challenges. Key Takeaways: - Which mycotoxins are most common? - What molds produce health-impacting mycotoxins? - What is the process through which the body detoxifies itself? - How are bowel movements supported? - What are the best tools for hydrating the body at the cellular level? - How is MCAS supported as part of a detoxification protocol? - Which binders are most appropriate for specific mycotoxins? - What phase II detoxification pathways are most important for mycotoxin detoxification? - What nutrients, herbs, and foods can optimize specific phase II pathways? - How is fungal colonization approached in a treatment protocol? - What is the role of the parasympathetic nervous system and limbic system in detoxification? Connect With My Guest: Beth O'Hara, FN: http://MastCell360.com Emily Givler, DSC: http://TOLHealth.com Neil Nathan, MD: http://NeilNathanMD.com Interview Date: June 30, 2020 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit http://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode122 Additional Information: To learn more, visit http://BetterHealthGuy.com. Disclaimer: The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority.

Why You Should Listen: In this episode, you will learn about the Cell Danger Response and explore a different perspective on recovering health from chronic illness. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Neil Nathan. Neil Nathan MD has been board certified by the American Board of Family Medicine and the American Academy of Pain Management. He is a Founding Diplomate of both the American Board of Integrative & Holistic Medicine and the International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness or ISEAI. He is the author of several books including "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness" and "Molds and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment: 2016". He is internationally recognized as a lecturer and teacher in the field of integrative medicine. Key Takeaways: - Is the Cell Danger Response (CDR) similar in concept to the need for "rebooting"? - What are the triggers of CDR? - What are purinergic signaling and purinergic receptors? - What are the key changes that occur when we enter a CDR? - What are the various CDR states? - What treatment options are appropriate in each state? - What needs to occur to move from one CDR state to the next? - Is lab testing and exogenous supplementation at times going against the wisdom of the body? - How can the current CDR state be determined? - What metabolomic changes have been observed? - What is Suramin? - Are there natural treatment options that can help move through the CDR? Connect With My Guest: http://NeilNathanMD.com Interview Date: June 12, 2020 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit http://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode121 Additional Information: To learn more, visit http://BetterHealthGuy.com. Disclaimer: The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority.

Today we’re about to get an amazing education in neurotransmitters, those very important chemical messengers in our brains. Balancing neurotransmitters through natural methods is an important part of Dr. Ann-Marie Barter’s work in her practice in Colorado. Dr. Ann uses a combination of functional blood chemistry analysis, nutrition, applied kinesiology, and other natural remedies with a functional medicine approach to help people with a host of brain/body issues. While we may think of neurotransmitters in terms of brain health, when they get out of balance they can also affect the thyroid, blood sugar, gut health, hormones, and so many other issues. Let’s get started as there’s so much to cover, including practical ways that you can start at home to optimize your neurotransmitter levels, reduce stress, and feel better! Episode Highlights With Dr. Ann-Marie Barter What neurotransmitters are and the areas of health they affect (hint: most things!) Kinds of neurotransmitters, especially serotonin and dopamine, and how they work in the body Why addressing dopamine levels may help you with sugar cravings and other addictive habits Signs you might have low dopamine Why diabetes should not be the only measure of having a blood sugar problem What processed foods can do to your neurotransmitters How to check your glucose at home (and why you’d want to) What a simple elimination diet can do for brain balance How to know if you have a serotonin imbalance Important things to know about SSRIs and antidepressants Key vitamins for brain and neurotransmitter health And more! Resources We Mention Dr. Ann’s practice The Fearless Health Podcast RealTime Lab (mold test) Why Isn’t My Brain Working? by Dr. Datis Kharrazian Dying to Be Me: My Journey from Cancer, to Near Death, to True Healing by Anita Moorjani Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness by Neil Nathan MD Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself by Joe Dispenza More From Wellness Mama 252: How to Activate Peak Brain Performance With Neuroscientist Dr. A

Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 48 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. Dr. Nathan will be talking about his book, "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness." www.neilnathanmd.com www.bodytalkradio.com

Today we welcome Dr. Neil Nathan to the Namaslay® podcast! Dr. Neil Nathan is a Board-Certified Family Physician, and a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative and Holistic Medicine. For many years he was also certified in pain management by the American Academy of Pain Management. Over his forty year medical career Dr. Nathan has become a expert in treating those afflicted by such conditions as Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia , Persistent Pain, and host of other chronic illnesses and co-infections. He is a specialist in treating those unresponsive to conventional medical approaches, or too ill and too sensitive to undergo the typical treatments provided by functional medicine. In this episode we'll discuss mold toxicity and the focus of his newest book, Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. Tune in to learn more about holistic solutions to your wellness, and you can learn more by visiting Dr. Nathan's website: http://www.neilnathanmd.com/ This episode of the Namaslay® podcast is brought to you in partnership with BrothMasters, a small, mother-daughter owned business promoting gut health with the highest quality, calcium rich, nutrient dense bone broth. You can use code YOGABYCANDACE for $15 off your order. The Namaslay® podcast is also excited to partner with BodyChek Wellness. Their organic, non-GMO hemp is grown, harvested, extracted and bottled in the United States and is third party tested to ensure the highest quality. Candace has been using their Full Spectrum CBD oil to improve sleep, reduce inflammation, and provide an increased sense of calm throughout the day. Use code ybc35 for 35% off your order at www.bodychekwellness.com Candace is excited to travel through the Midwest for the Namaslay® Fall Yoga Workshop Tour. Join her for the debut of her newest workshops to build strength, improve your yoga practice and have fun with other YBCers in Kansas City, Minneapolis, Chicago and St. Louis September 25-29.  If a relaxing getaway is more your speed, we're heading to Santorini, Greece for a vacation style yoga retreat in October, followed by a Personal Growth and Yoga Retreat in Bolzano, Italy, and a Luxe Fitness and Yoga Retreat in Costa Rica.  You can find daily blog post updates at: www.YogaByCandace.com. Instagram: @yogabycandace Join our Facebook community: YogaByCandace on FB Follow the new Namaslay® Studios, a boutique yoga and fitness Studio in Ridgefield, Connecticut on Instagram: @namaslay_studios Download the YBC® App for hundreds of free yoga videos and blog content for your health and wellness. Yoga Workshops: 2019 Yoga Workshops Yoga Retreats and Teacher Trainings: 2019 YBC® Retreats and Namaslay® Yoga Teacher Trainings Mantra Box®, our quarterly discovery box that supports small business: Small Business Love with the Mantra Box® Namaslay® Merch: Get your Namaslay® Swag - mugs, notebooks, candles, apparel and more! And the Namaslay Book: Get your copy on Amazon

  Dr. Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 48 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. Dr. Nathan will be talking about his book, “Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness.”

Visit evanbrand.com for functional medicine lab testing, professional-grade supplements and consultations.Dr. Neil Nathan, MD is a board-certified physician who wrote a great book on the subject of mold toxicity, lyme disease, mast cell activation, and much more titled Toxic: Heal Your Body From Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness which you can find at http://evanbrand.com/toxicIts a great book that can help guide you and your practitioner towards successfully healing from a seriously debilitating situation.Today We DiscussNatural binders vs Rx BindersWhy Dr. Nathan doesnt put faith into DNA Connexions PCR testingHealing chemical sensitivitiesLimbic system retraining and the DNRS brain retraining course which you can find at http://evanbrand.com/dnrs

Topic: Toxic food, toxic air and water… these are challenges we've become all too familiar with. But what about toxic Mold? Are you aware how it might be the underlying cause of a lot of disease… and your doctor may not be aware of it? We'll talk to Dr. Neil Nathan, author of TOXIC: Heal Your body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. Website(s): NeilNathanMD.com, ConsciousTalk.net

Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 47 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Board member of ISEAI (The International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness). With Dr. Rich van Konynenburg he did the ground-breaking clinical research which demonstrated the importance of methylation chemistry in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and he has recently completed a study with Dr. Robert Naviaux on the metabolomics of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his book, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016 and now to his most recent book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness. His current medical practice is the Redwood Valley Clinic in Northern California. He can be contacted most easily through his website www.neilnathanmd.com, through which consultations are available. Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 25 years now, and Lyme disease for the past 15 years. As his practice has evolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments, and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them to recover. The recent findings that mast cell activation and porphyria are more common than has been appreciated by the medical profession are of particular importance in this regard.

When it comes to biohacking, few people know more about it and how to deploy biohacking techniques effectively than elite athlete, podcast host and best-selling author Ben Greenfield.Because there’s many definitions about what constitutes biohacking, Ben starts this episode by explaining what it means to him… Show NotesBen introduced Paul to Dr. Nick Berry, his new go-to essential oils expert. (2:07)Dogs may know more about biohacking than humans do. (3:00)Ben defines what biohacking is to him. (6:14)What’s a grinder in the biohacking world? (11:42)40-50 percent of Silicon Valley execs are microdosing a derivative of LSD. (14:13)Ben celebrates the birth of his first Miso. (18:00)The parallels between biohacking and alchemy. (19:44)Learn how Ben normalizes his body’s circadian rhythms with some beneficial shortcuts. (23:20)Why people who lived in colder countries get depressed when they moved to warmer Western climates. It’s a diet thing… (28:02)Biohacks that really work, according to Ben Greenfield. (31:36)Cryotherapy isn't biohacking. (36:39)Biohacking has become very commercialized. (39:26)Making dietary changes to facilitate healthier winter and summer metabolisms. (44:55)Paying attention to your body with meditation to relieve pain isn’t a biohack. (49:00)Why do young kids and teens use steroids? (58:56)Anyone interested in biohacking should give themselves this litmus test. (1:01:10)ResourcesToxic: Heal Your Body From Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness by Dr. Neil NathanThe Last 4 Doctors You’ll Ever NeedThe Master Key System by Charles HaanelKion

In Episode 053 of A Medicinal Mind: Wisdom and Wellbeing, I welcome the incredibly talented and voraciously curious physician and expert in the field of environmental toxicity and chronic infections Dr. Neil Nathan MD.   Dr. Nathan is a board certified family physician and as you will hear in the podcast has an extensive background additionally in the world of pain management. He has spent over 40 years helping individuals recover from complex chronic illnesses. The depth of his expertise incorporating multiple healing modalities is beyond extraordinary and his determination to continually learn and explore the ways in which his patient's can heal is matched by very few.   Recently Dr. Nathan released a groundbreaking NY Times bestselling book. Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness and while he is certainly known for his expertise in these domains, his passions and skills as a healer extend far beyond than that of just chronic environmental illness.   In this discussion, we start off with a exploration of Dr. Nathan's early childhood, hearing about his spiritual upbringing with Orthodox Judaism and his eventual journey into numerous other spiritual traditions and practices. Distilling down his spiritual core into three fundamental mantras:  Be Mindful, Be Grateful and Be of Service, Dr. Nathan provides some tremendous insight into perhaps the ultimate purpose of any religious or spiritual pursuit.   Moving from here, Dr. Nathan offers a very personal look into the diverse explosion of his medical education, most of which occurred AFTER his time in medical school As a self proclaimed seeker, Dr. Nathan shares the real reason behind his exploration of osteopathy, pain management and other healing modalities, as a seeker trying to discover the tools that would better support the spiritual wellbeing of his patients.   Expanding into the art of medicine, Dr. Nathan articulates the essence of medicine as truly listening and holding space so that patient can engage positively in the act of story telling.   Dr. Nathan provides incredibly practical insights for any current practitioner or student of the healing arts as  to the most supportive ways to listen, to collect a history, to hold space, to remain curious, to engage in the day after day, month after month journey of helping to remove the roadblocks preventing patients from healing.   We close the podcast with a critical analysis of functional medicine as Dr. Nathan helps us to understand how to really discover the root causes of illness and not just treat effects with supplements and drugs.   Offering wisdom from 40 years of practice, Dr. Nathan shares his observation that as a healer, you will come into contact with fundamentally very different types of patients. Using the terms difficult vs complex or complicated, Dr. Nathan shares a compassionate view towards physicians who feel they are not successful in the practice of medicine, telling us that the most challenging art of medicine is discerning the complex patients who are dedicated to healing no matter how long it takes, vs. the difficult or demanding patients who may still have unconscious or other blocks preventing them from progressing in the healing journey.   There is a wealth of wisdom in this podcast, and I strongly encourage you to take time to listen to the many insights of Dr. Nathan as well as check out and buy his book Toxic.   And with that let's dig into the show!   Notes   Dr. Neil Nathan's Main Page http://www.neilnathanmd.com/   Podcast with Better Health Guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=ia-xy2zjixc   Buy the Book: Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness   https://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Toxicity-Multiple-Sensitivities-Environmental-ebook/dp/B07H72N9RH     You can see all of our content including blogs, poetry, meditations, and our weekly newsletter at our webpage: A Medicinal Mind   You can also follow A Medicinal Mind on Facebook and Instagram   If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe with Apple Podcasts and leave us a review. Your feedback and reviews allow our message and this space of nourishment to grow.   If you want like become a patient of Dr. Abbott's you can explore his clinic: Resilient Roots: Functional and Evolutionary Medicine Disclaimer: The content at A Medicinal Mind and the content of our podcast are educational and informational in nature. They are not intended to be medical advice, spiritual counsel or a substitute for working with a health professional or a trained spiritual counselor. We cannot guarantee the outcome of any of the recommendations provided on our page or by the guests on our podcast and any statements written or made about any potential outcomes are expressions of opinion only.

Why You Should Listen: In this episode, you will learn about healing your body from toxic illnesses such as Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Neil Nathan. Neil Nathan, MD was introduced with a more formal summary of his bio in podcast episode #19. For this podcast, I want to be more informal and just say how much I value and respect Dr. Nathan and the work that he does to help his patients. Dr. Nathan has been a mentor to me over the years, and I am always grateful when there are more opportunities to learn from him. I appreciate that Dr. Nathan has never accepted the toolbox that he has available and that he has continued to look for new and better options to help his population of chronically ill patients. While his toolbox is quite large, he’s still looking, still searching, still open to new and different approaches. Until we have all the answers, this is the type of doctor I think most of us would want. In his new book “Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness”, Dr. Nathan shares his wisdom, experience, and toolbox with all of us. It is profoundly enlightening. Key Takeaways: - What is the difference between toxicity and sensitivity? - What is a binder? How are absorption and adsorption different? - How does one determine which binders to use? - Can binder effectiveness be maximized with a focus on the liver and gallbladder? - How are intracellular toxins detoxified? - How important are HLA-DR genetics in terms of being a predictor of illness and a predictor of treatment outcome? - What screening tests might be used to evaluate an environment for the possibility of mold? - How are urine mycotoxin tests helpful? - How can mold from a water-damaged building vs. mold from food consumption be differentiated in urine mycotoxin tests? - How often is colonization a consideration in recovering from mold illness? - Does treating MARCoNS make a positive shift for patients clinically? - How do Bartonella and Babesia differ in their symptom presentation? - What is provocation testing? - Can Bartonella be treated without antibiotics? - What is Mast Cell Activation Syndrome, and how is it treated? - How might various body systems be rebooted? - What is Polyvagal Theory, and what role does it play in recovery? Connect With My Guest: http://neilnathanmd.com Related Resources: Book:"Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness"  International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness Interview Date: October 22, 2018 Additional Information: To learn more, visit http://BetterHealthGuy.com. Disclaimer: The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority.