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In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Neil Nathan about the intersection between brain symptoms and complex illness. Dr. Nathan has practiced medicine for over 50 years. He is one of the leading experts in complex chronic illness and mold toxicity — author of the bestselling Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, and Chronic Environmental Illness and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide. I am grateful to call Dr. Nathan a mentor and colleague. His pioneering work has been responsible for my healing from chronic illness, as well as that of many patients I've treated. Together, we co-lead a small peer group (within the larger mentoring group he provides with Marie Matheson, ND), supporting practitioners who treat those with complex chronic illness.In this episode we discuss:03:43 – Dr. Nathan's path to understanding complex illness11:20 – Why complex illness is rising and underrecognized19:30 – Why new medical ideas take decades to reach patients23:15 – Mold, Lyme, and long-COVID: the “big three” root causes25:58 – The limbic-vagal-mast cell “trifecta”30:31 – Are some people born more vulnerable?44:39 – The risk in “just do limbic retraining” advice47:35 - Biochemical contributors49:26 – Structural root: jaw and cervical instability53:58 – Differentiating Between Mold, Lyme & Long-COVID58:49 – A message of hope, and where to learn moreFull Transcript belowYou can find Dr. Nathan's books, consultations and mentoring program through his website at neilnathanmd.com. If you'd like to help get this information out into the world, please consider liking, sharing, or commenting.Until next time,CourtneyCourtney Snyder MDDr. Courtney Snyder MD is a holistic and functional child and adult psychiatrist and host of the Holistic Psychiatry Podcast and can be found at courtneysnydermd.comMedical DisclaimerThis podcast is for educational purposes only and is not intended or implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Consult your own physician for any medical issues you may be having.Full TranscriptDr. Nathan's Path to Understanding Complex Illness03:43Courtney: I'm so glad we're doing this, and I feel like it's long overdue. As you know, in the mental health space in psychiatry, there's a lot of recognition of a dysregulated nervous system, threat response in the body, but oftentimes that's attributed to external forces or trauma, and not necessarily internal threats that we see, obviously, in complex chronic illness, which we'll be talking about. There's also not the recognition of the relationship between physical symptoms and brain-related symptoms. So I know you're going to help us connect a lot of these dots. As we sort of just lay the groundwork for what complex chronic illness is — when in your path did you start to recognize the distinction, when was the beginning of your work and appreciation of complex health issues?Neil: Okay, there are two answers to that question. First, when I went to medical school, my hope was to become a healer. And I was very disappointed that when I got there, I realized they weren't going to teach me to be a healer. And back then I used to question my professors at medical school — why do you do it this way, and how is that? And I kept feeling in all of our interactions that we were missing something. And my professors would go, “Okay, Mr. Wise Guy, smart guy, what are we missing?” And I'd go, “I don't know, I just know we're missing something.” Later I would come to recognize that we were missing the emotional and spiritual component to whatever was affecting people in their illnesses. And I have language for it now — I didn't then. The person in medical school who influenced me the most was Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, who I view as my main mentor in medical school. She, unlike anyone else, had a one-and-a-half-hour seminar once a week. Back then there weren't video cameras — you were in a small confined room with a two-way mirror, and you're sitting there watching someone do this. And she would simply interview one of her patients. She was a psychiatrist, but she was the only one in medical school who demonstrated how to really listen to people, how to really communicate with them, and not have this standard review of systems — here's my questions, here's your answers, and that's what I do, and this is what I write up. She was really listening. She was trying to really take in, okay, what happened to you, and what's going on with you? So I would want to give her credit as a role model to change how I learn to listen. Okay, that was step one.I'm going to fast forward to the early 1980s. And I am, at that point, the medical director of a regional pain clinic. And we are starting to see a whole bunch of patients who had this complicated process of fatigue, unrefreshed sleep, irritable bowel syndrome, and pain migrating all over their body. And back then we called it fibrositis. Now we call this fibromyalgia. And so whenever medicine encounters a thing that they don't know what they're looking at, it's psychological until proven otherwise. And people would get therapy, and they would take antidepressants and anti-anxiety agents. Didn't help much. And so it became clear to me that we didn't understand what this was at all. It was not psychological. Something was going on in their bodies — now I recognize it as an inflammatory process. Back then there was no concept of that at all. And then, slowly, in the early nineties, we began to find pieces of the puzzle to understand what was triggering fibromyalgia. I was working back then with Jacob Teitelbaum, who did a lot of work with chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, and we both independently came up with an understanding that a deficiency of magnesium, DHEA, adrenal issues, thyroid issues, sex hormone deficiencies, GI dysbiosis, and food allergy — if we looked at those and treated those, the majority of people with fibromyalgia got cured. It was different for different patients. It was not like there was one thing that caused it. And as time evolved, we began to realize that there was lots of other biochemical imbalances in the body that would contribute to this kind of a process that represented chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia.We discovered that Lyme disease and coinfections was a huge piece of that. And later still we discovered that mold toxicity was a huge piece of that. And so my understanding of the complexity — and it's not really confined to chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia at this point, we're really talking about almost all chronic illness — with a huge psychological component to that. So we've begun to understand this as essentially some version of inflammation. And if we start to really dig into what are the potential causes of that inflammation, we can make a huge impact for them. So this is a multi-year evolving understanding of how a person's genetics, biochemistry, physiology impacts their whole being in every way. And that inflammation extends to the nervous system, contributing greatly, if not causing directly, a large number of what are now called psychiatric diagnoses.Courtney: Right. So even among those patients that you were seeing — you were seeing, I'm assuming, depression, anxiety, brain fog?Neil: Yeah, the vast majority of our patients with mold toxicity have brain fog and anxiety, depression, OCD behaviors, mood swings, depersonalization, derealization. I mean, all of that is super common in our patients.Complex Illness Is Rising — and Underrecognized11:20Courtney: Do you feel like this is more recognized now — or do you feel like the number of people being hit with these complex health issues is increasing — or both?Neil: Both. I would love to say that the medical profession is increasingly recognizing all of this as important, but that recognition is coming very, very slowly. The majority of folks out there, if they were to list the symptoms that they had, their doctors would basically look at them like, “I have no idea what's causing it, so this must be in your head.” And that is the message they're getting from their physicians at this point. So many patients are being gaslighted, so many patients are being told it's in your head. And the repercussions of that are the family is hearing that same message, and the families become less supportive of those people, because they're saying, “This is not real, so why would I support you? This is still in your head, go get your head fixed.” And they're wrong, and it's really a travesty. But so yes, very slowly, this awareness is growing. There are now more medical meetings that I'm aware of where psychiatrists can learn more about this than there were ten, fifteen years ago, for sure. But not enough — it's still not enough.The other part of that is some of the main triggers for this inflammatory process are increasing. So we're seeing more and more mold toxicity, we're seeing more and more Lyme and coinfections, partly because the environment that we are all exposed to has gotten extremely increasingly toxic. So it's now known, for example, that there are 350,000 new chemicals in our environment than existed 70 years ago. The vast majority of those have never been tested for safety in human beings. So human beings have a tremendous amount of chemical exposure that they never had before. Human beings have a tremendous amount of EMF, electromagnetic exposures that they never had before in the history of the human race. So these exposures are cumulative. Our major organs, like our liver and our kidney, that have to deal with toxicity, are overloaded. And so, yes, we are seeing an epidemic of a whole bunch of these conditions. In children, we are aware that autism has skyrocketed — it went from one in several thousand kids to one in thirty kids in many states now have autism. And forgive me, but the pediatric profession is not taking this seriously. It's like, “Yeah, that's sad, it's unfortunate.” It's like — really, you don't want to look at this? This means one in every three kids born are getting autism — does that not concern you? But, forgive me, the medical profession is very slow to embrace new information, and that is really to the detriment.We're seeing an epidemic of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ALS, all of which involve neuroinflammation. We've seen already an epidemic of chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. And all of these things are interrelated, because — yes, I'm supposed to be an expert on mold toxicity, and I probably am — but mold toxicity doesn't exist in a vacuum. You have mold toxicity as one of multiple environmental toxins we're being exposed to. It is simply one of the most common, the easiest one to diagnose, because we have tests for it. We don't have tests for the hundreds of thousands of chemicals out there. We're just beginning to be able to have some tests that will tell us what's in someone's body that might be making them sick.Courtney: Right, right. And I would imagine that this typical medical model of looking for one cause to autism, one cause to dementia — it's a completely different way of thinking. When you get away from that and you look at complexity of the human body, that way of thinking holds back the research, it holds back any progress.Neil: What I think is helpful for people to look at is: we are all uniquely, biochemically, genetically different. And so the same inflammation in one person could trigger cardiovascular disease, and another person could trigger Alzheimer's, and another person could trigger chronic fatigue. So we need to take a step back and go, okay — and this is not a brand new idea. For the last ten years, there are many papers in the medical journals that are saying chronic illness is almost certainly an inflammatory process. Now, it hasn't really integrated into what people are being taught in medical school or in their residency program. But this is not a brand new idea, and there's tons of medical research documenting that.What behooves us as physicians is to look at every human being and go, “Okay, this is your named chronic condition — what are the triggers for you?” We have to kind of be like a medical detective and dig in and go, okay, what's triggering your inflammation, so I can treat the cause — not put a band-aid on it, which is, forgive me, in the psychiatric field, taking antidepressants and benzodiazepines. That's a band-aid. It's a helpful band-aid, it could be a very important band-aid, help someone to function. But you really need to be looking at, okay, I have this great band-aid, but wouldn't it be nice to actually cure this? And I think that would be, for me, to your audience, Courtney, my take-home message — which is always look for the root cause, because it is possible that we will find that root cause, and you won't have whatever name you've been given, depression, anxiety, OCD, for the rest of your earthly life. Maybe.And I've treated thousands of people successfully here. So this is not — I've had one or two successes here — we're talking thousands of people that have responded to this way of practicing medicine, with fabulous results. People who've been literally bedridden, incapacitated by their illness, are now out there working again and being with their family and living full lives. So that's the take-home message.Courtney: Right. Which makes it so satisfying to treat. And I mean, I can speak to that, having experienced it personally. But at the same time, you do get pushback from other areas of medicine that don't give it necessarily credibility, even though people, on the other side, are thriving and healing, and it's really amazing.New Medical Ideas & Research Take Decades to Reach Patients19:30Neil: You know, the history of all science, including medicine, is: new technology, new drugs are fast-tracked to get into our lives. Ideas, not so much. Typically it takes a generation — twenty, twenty-five years — for a new idea to come into acceptance. And the first reaction of any science, medicine included, is to get into denial, which is, “There isn't enough data to support this concept, and I can't be perceived as practicing bad medicine by embracing a concept that isn't proven yet.” But that means that all of their patients are going to have to wait twenty years — until suffering — until that person goes, “Now there's enough evidence, now I can learn how to do this, and now I'll begin to help you.” I'm not wired that way. I'm wired that if I have a suffering person, and I have something that I can offer them that might help, I'm going to try it. I'm going to do it in the safest way I know how, but I can't leave someone dangling for twenty years and say, “I'm sorry, I have to wait until my profession figures out what to do.” That's not me.I worked at the medical school at the University of Minnesota Duluth for eleven years. And I was not only on the faculty, but I was on the committee that determined what new information was put into the curriculum. For example, AIDS was just coming into vogue at that particular point, and it was obvious that we needed to have courses on AIDS for the medical students, because this was big. What a lot of people wouldn't understand is that each department in a medical school fiercely guards its time allotment. Everyone gets a certain number of hours, and they're not open to adding new things or giving up any of their time slots for anything new. And so what I would watch is, as new information came into the medical school, each department fiercely refused to add any new lectures in their department, or give up any of the time that they had to anybody else to add that information. So we're talking about university politics now — this is not even medicine, this is people guarding their turf. And I don't even think that would occur to any consumers, that that would happen like that — well, certainly, why would that happen in a medical school? Well, it's because human beings are responsible for each department, and they guard their own turf. So it's a kind of an insidious process about how new information isn't embraced by the profession, to go into the medical school curriculum.Mold, Lyme, and Long-COVID: The “Big Three”23:15Courtney: I want to come back to what you were saying about inflammation being at the core of chronic illness and complex chronic illness. And when it comes to complex chronic illness, whether it's SIRS or mast cell activation from mold or Lyme, we talk about multiple systems being affected — the central nervous system, gastrointestinal tract, endocrine, skin, just you name it. If the inflammation then is from a source of oxidative stress or a major insult — would you say that mold toxicity is the most common, or would you put Lyme or now even COVID on a par with that, as far as the deepest roots causing the inflammation? Not that the chemicals, metals, and everything else we're being exposed to aren't at play.Neil: In my experience, those three are the biggies — mold toxicity, Lyme with its co-infections, and long-haul COVID. Those are the three most common. Of those, in my experience, mold is the most common, and the one that has to be treated first if you have some or all of them. So, for example, in people who have long-haul COVID or Lyme, often their body will not respond to that treatment optimally until you first get the mold out. So there's a little hierarchy of what we do, in what order. And then within that hierarchy, there's also an order in which we do things for people to respond optimally. So, for example, mold toxicity will trigger — and Lyme and Bartonella will do the same thing — limbic dysfunction, vagal nerve dysfunction, and mast cell activation in most of our patients. Not all, but in most. And the longer they have it, the more likely those things are going to get triggered. Once somebody does not feel safe — and the systems that we have in our body to monitor that safety and to keep us safe are the limbic system, the vagal system, and mast cell activation — we have to get the body safer, or it will not be able to take what you need to take to treat mold or Lyme or long-haul COVID. People will literally shut down — their limbic system will essentially go, “Mm, I see what you're trying to do there, and I can't let you do it, because I'm not sure that's safe.” And it will literally not allow people to do it.The Limbic-Vagal-Mast Cell “Trifecta”25:58Courtney: So with one of those, or a combination of those, on board, these threat mechanisms would be kicked up — mast cell activation, limbic system dysfunction, autonomic nervous system dysfunction. If they look similar, or a timeline isn't easily helping parse out what might be primary, how able do you feel to make the distinction — versus if mold is present, starting there?Neil: If we look at our patient's symptoms, they will point us clearly to whether there's a limbic or vagal or mast cell piece, to be specific. The limbic system's job involves primarily monitoring and regulating and keeping emotion and sensitivity in check. So any symptoms that involve those two things are limbic almost by definition. So on the sensitivity side, if someone describes an increased sensitivity to light, sound, touch, smell, chemicals, EMFs, food — they're already telling me my limbic system is dysfunctional. In some ways it doesn't matter what the cause is; if someone has this increased sensitivity, regardless of the cause, I know we have to treat their limbic system first.On the vagal side, the symptoms would primarily run into symptoms that involve the autonomic nervous system, which would involve things like temperature dysregulation, palpitations, insomnia, POTS, blood pressure dysregulation, or symptoms that involve the gastrointestinal tract, because the vagus nerve controls almost the entire intestinal tract. So any GI symptoms — gas, bloating, distension, reflux, diarrhea, constipation, abdominal pain — again, that would lead me to go, the vagus is involved here. So by listening to my patient's symptoms, I can immediately know what's dysregulated here, and what my first treatment arm will be — to get the limbic and vagal systems back up and running again at a safer level, because otherwise our patients aren't going anywhere. They can do binders and antifungals and antibiotics for Lyme, and they will get worse. Their body will basically go, “I know I might need that, but why are you doing that? I can't even get to a place of safety to respond. I'm on self-preservation mode here.”And in the mast cell category — again, all of the same symptoms that could be mold or Lyme or long-haul COVID could also be mast cell. Again, it's a multi-systemic process. A tip-off, which I find very helpful, is if someone describes a symptom that comes on immediately after eating, sometimes while eating. Nothing causes that kind of reaction that fast except mast cell activation. Allergy — and most people, if they do have some symptom that comes after eating, they're going to be thinking, “It must be what I ate, what did I just eat?” But it's not food allergy, it's mast cell activation. In that context, many of our patients have already observed that they can eat a particular food one day and have a very strong reaction, and the next day, same food, nothing. And they'll go, “That doesn't make sense — if this was allergy, I ought to react the same way every time.” And so that is classical mast cell activation, which fluctuates. So — for the first part of your question — that's what I'm looking for. When I take a history, when I talk with patients, I'm going to really dig into: are they already manifesting symptoms that clearly tell me what we need to do first, to get them safer, so that now they can respond properly to the treatment that will really get at their root cause.Are Some People Born More Vulnerable?30:31Courtney: I know you take deep timelines when you meet with someone, so you're really accounting for a lot. But one of the things that I think about a lot is: who is most vulnerable? Do some of us come into the world already with a vulnerability similar to Elaine Aron's highly sensitive person model? And then maybe there's trauma, early attachment disruption — and already vulnerabilities — but then the toxic load that we're all experiencing. But then something like mold or Lyme then hits. And then, all the years and all the patients you've seen — I'm curious how many you feel already had sort of a vulnerability. Not that they ever had to really become sick necessarily, but already had a vulnerability.Neil: Honestly, I would say most. Our limbic system evolves from the time we were in our mother's uterus, so that almost no one has had a perfect childhood. And so whatever someone has had to deal with in childhood — it could be recurrent ear infections or throat infections, or it could be a surgical procedure, or it could be parents, both of whom worked and they didn't get enough time, or they could be abusive parents, sexually, physically, verbally abusive — whatever someone has been exposed to, that forces their limbic system to have to deal with it. Because that's the job of the limbic system, is to keep you safe. So your limbic system is basically going, “Okay, I'm just a little thing here, what do I need to do to cope with this?” And so their limbic system slowly, inexorably, becomes more and more hypervigilant to protect them. Let's say someone had an alcoholic parent, and they would come home, and you were never sure what their status would be — and so you'd kind of hold yourself back from that, which is, “I've got to see what this person is showing me, is it safe for me to come up and give them a hug, or do I want to hang out in my room for a bit until whatever this is settles down?” That's the beginning of this limbic hypervigilance process. And then it just goes on through life. So that if you've had difficult relationships, or surgeries, or severe infections, or anything in the physical or emotional or spiritual plane, a betrayal of some type — the limbic system becomes slowly more and more and more hypervigilant, when the straw hits the camel's back. And that straw could be COVID, or Lyme, or mold toxicity, or another infection of some type — that's the straw that breaks the camel's back. At that point the limbic system goes into shutdown, which — we know the vagal system goes into shutdown, literally, that's something the vagal system is trained to do. It's “okay, we are so unsafe that I'm shutting down my systems here.” And so that predisposes to illness. But I want to tie that back to inflammation, which — a lot of people don't understand that the vagus nerve, for example, controls inflammation in the body also. There are branches of the vagus that go to the spleen, to the gut-associated lymphoid tissue, and to the thymus, all of which are major immune organs. And if the vagus is dysfunctional, inflammation can rage out of control. So again, this comes back to understanding this complexity of inflammation, and how we need to both understand it and know where it is we want to look to get at that inflammation. So there is a profound interconnected limbic-vagal-mast cell piece. Each totally connects to the other. There's an interaction between the thousand biochemical mediators that mast cells make and the nervous system itself. So I call this interconnection the trifecta, which is: you can't just treat the limbic system in a vacuum, because if you're not also looking at the vagal and mast cell system, your treatment may be a little bit helpful, or it might not even work at all, until you combine all three — so that you really understand this is a package deal here, in terms of how we work with it.There was one more piece I wanted to add, Courtney, to understanding the inflammation piece: whether or not someone gets mold toxicity or Lyme or COVID depends on how robust their immune system is. So you could have a family living in a moldy environment — one person is really sick, several are a little bit sick, and one is not sick at all. And the one who's not sick at all can easily go, “I'm not sure what's wrong with you all, but I'm fine in this environment, it can't be my environment because I'm fine.” And what they're not understanding is: yes, they are fine, as long as their immune system stays robust. For the others, they were at risk for all of these conditions because their immune system took a hit. And for many people who were living in a moldy environment, during COVID, for example, when we isolated and people were spending twenty-four hours in their home rather than the eight hours out, they were many now being exposed to more mold at home than they were before. I don't think people began to think about that or look at that. So in that environment, whether or not they were affected depends on the hit they took. Now, the things that will hit an immune system to weaken it, and allow whatever's there to manifest, are: COVID was a biggie, any severe infection, a surgical procedure, childbirth, menopause, or any emotional upheaval will weaken that immune system, and then the immune system loses containment, and now we are off to the races. So what I try to convince people who are living in a moldy environment who are well is that they're living with a ticking time bomb. Should they take an immune hit, they will be just as sick as their family member who they're kind of lording it over, which is, “I'm not sick, what's wrong with you?” You'll be right there yourself if you take that hit — to try to help them understand, yeah, you're okay for now, but once your immune system weakens. So I'm trying to tie together the immune system, its ability to regulate inflammation, and this whole process here.Courtney: Right, right. Which I guess is why we call it complex, complex illness.Neil: It is the way human beings are. We're not making up a new word of complex illness — illness was always complex. We're just beginning to understand how complex it always has been.The Limits of Treating Symptoms Alone44:39Courtney: Right, so there's communities out there addressing mast cell activation. There's communities out there addressing POTS and dysautonomia. Communities out there addressing OCD and more obvious limbic-type issues. And then there's the whole mental health field. And the dots aren't getting connected. I mean, I've yet to see someone with OCD — I think it's like eighty to ninety-five percent have mold toxicity as part of the picture.Neil: You know, an example — and I won't name names — is there's an eminent pediatric physician who is very well known for his work in autism, who thought he was ADD his whole life until he recognized that he had mold toxicity and started taking antifungals, and all of a sudden his brain went online and he doesn't have it anymore. So that's just a very clear example of what you're talking about. And what we are talking about is: it's absolutely essential that all people who work in the medical field, all healthcare providers, embrace this complexity, because if you're only working on a piece of it, you will help some people to a certain extent, but you will not help people optimally. I mean, that is the absolute bottom line.The understanding that mast cell activation was huge came in 2016, when Larry Afrin wrote his book, Never Bet Against Occam. It was a huge game changer. When I read his book, it was like, “My goodness, I've been missing this in my patients.” And the whole world embraced this information, so that every medical center in the country now has a mast cell activation clinic. However, they're looking at it as a single thing with a label to it, and they're treating it just that way. They have not recognized that if they don't add limbic and vagal work to it, their treatment is not going to be adequate. And so, yes, they're helping people, but absolutely not optimally. And to make it worse, very few of those clinics have recognized that what's causing mast cell activation, which absolutely needs to be treated, is mold toxicity and Lyme. So people go to these clinics and get a certain amount of help, but they're not being treated comprehensively, which is a pet peeve of mine — which is, come on, if you're going to have a clinic, understand the whole interactions of whatever name it is you're working with. If you're going to be an ENT specialist, understand everything that impacts that area. If you're going to be a cardiologist, understand everything that impacts it. And we just don't see that. We see people kind of in their little box — “No, no, I've learned this, this is what I do, this is how I work” — and it's just unfortunate that they're not looking at the bigger picture.Courtney: Right, I think add to that PANS and PANDAS, because in psychiatry, people feel like they're deep diving because they're getting to PANS and PANDAS. It's like, okay, you've got to go deeper than that, because even those conferences, they talk about the need for treating relapse, and it's just going to keep reoccurring.Neil: I mean, they're using IVIG to help. That's nice, but they're not getting to cause. And we know when PANS and PANDAS first emerged on the scene, it was all about strep, and that was the focus for a long time. But as time emerged, it was very clear that this was a neurological inflammation triggered — here we go, broken record — Lyme, mold, other infectious agents had to be looked for. And if we treated those, you could cure PANS. It wasn't something that needed IVIG for the rest of your earthly life.Courtney: Even among those, would you say very often mold is underlying the mycoplasma, the candida?Neil: I think mold is one of the most missed components to illness that I can think of. If I have a goal in life, it would be to raise the consciousness of our profession as to the importance of mold toxicity, how common it is. We're talking millions and millions of people who are not diagnosed, because their doctors don't know about it, and therefore are not making the diagnosis. I'd love to see the consciousness get to the point that someone would present with these complicated stories and a doctor would say, “Why don't we think about mold toxicity?” That would be the most important thing I would have done in my career.Courtney: Yeah, well, you're certainly raising awareness.Neil: I'm working — it is slow. As we said, I'm working on a twenty-year generational issue here.Courtney: You've mentioned that the underlying source needs to be addressed, but the nervous system and immune systems need to be addressed. So one of the things that comes up with limbic system retraining is: I've had people hear the message that if they just address their limbic and autonomic nervous system, then they wouldn't need to address what I see as an ongoing threat, such as a mold toxin. So I'm hoping you can speak to that, and the importance of these programs, despite that.Neil: Sure. A couple of the better-known limbic retraining programs, the coaches get a little bit zealous about — “limbic retraining is so important, this is all you need to do alone, don't even do anything else, just do limbic retraining.” And I suspect that there are a handful, very few, but a handful of people who've gotten well just doing limbic retraining. If, for example, if you had mold toxicity, if it was relatively new, if you had not colonized, and you moved out of your mold exposure soon, it is possible that the limbic retraining would help reboot it to the point that your immune system rebooted itself and you'd be fine. I believe there are a few people like that. The vast majority of people who have limbic dysfunction — you need to do limbic retraining and vagal retraining. You may also need to do mast cell retraining, and please look for the cause of that. Those are downstream effects, those are not named diagnoses that you treat alone and it fixes it. Please look for at least mold and Lyme, which are the two most common things that are triggering this at this point. And people are getting the wrong message if they think they need to do it in a vacuum. To make it worse, they're being told, “No, no, just do limbic retraining, that's all you need.” And the truth is, no, you need to combine limbic retraining and vagal rebooting and mast cell activation most of the time. And of course you've got to get back to cause.Courtney: Right, I mean I try to liken it to — if they were in an abusive relationship or toxic relationship, they wouldn't just limbic-system their way out of that, if there was an external threat.Biochemical Contributors47:35Neil: No, you've got to fix what's primary here. I want to add to this discussion — we're focusing on inflammation from toxins and infections, but there are also other biochemical issues, some of them downstream, that need to be looked for and addressed in order for people to recover completely. So, for example, Lyme and mold will trigger kryptopyrrole issues, or imbalances in the ratio between zinc and copper, or they'll trigger methylation issues super commonly. And I just wanted to expand this discussion — I know it's complicated enough, but I don't want to oversimplify it either — that there are other biochemical things that we want to be looking for, because they're treatable, and they will help people to heal faster, if we're also addressing methylation, the need for zinc, the need for magnesium or B6 — those are common components of this whole process here. And so I just want to kind of tie that all together for a moment.Courtney: No, I'm glad you did, because those are topics that I talk about here, so it's important to connect those. The other thing I see, because I integrate the Walsh approaches with treating people that have complex health issues, is zinc seems so amazing when it comes to mast cell activation — making sure that's optimized. As well as connective tissue — and that was something else I wanted to ask you about — is structural issues that can be impacting the autonomic nervous system. I just see a lot of people — I inquire about it because I had it myself — but who have upper cervical instability as part of this whole picture.Structural Contributors49:26Neil: Again, all of these things are interrelated, and the physical structure can prevent people from moving forward in several different ways. One is the structure of the jaw and the face — the body puts a priority on teeth occluding properly. And if the teeth don't meet just quite right, and the jaw is a little bit out of structure, people often talk about TMJ — the body basically freaks out, it goes into sympathetic overdrive. And for some patients — it's not common, but I've seen several dozen — where the jaw had to be realigned by a combination of dentists specially trained in this work, working with osteopathic physicians, to realign the jaw. Often in those patients, they couldn't respond to the limbic and vagal treatment until their jaw got realigned.Same thing is true with what you're talking about, as cervical cranial instability, which is basically a weakening of the ligaments at the base of the skull, where it attaches to the first cervical vertebra. Now, these are all again intertwined — for example, it begs the question of what weakens those ligaments. And the answer is: if you have mast cell activation, some of the materials that the mast cell makes weakens the ligaments. So the ligaments get weak, and where the skull attaches to the first cervical vertebra, instead of being pulled apart, like ligaments do, it collapses. And that influences the blood flow to the brain, the nerve flow to the brain. And again, the body recognizes that as a priority, and often you can't get that better — you can't get limbic and vagal response until that gets fixed.So there are a bunch of structural issues that also need to be looked at, when people become overly sensitive and are not responding properly. And there's more in that area. So, for example, there's a chapter by Tasha Turzo, who's an expert on the jaw structure. There's a chapter in there by Andy Maxwell on cervical cranial instability. So that book would give people a really good overview of how complicated things are, and they might, chapter by chapter, get a clue of, “I haven't looked at this piece yet.” I mean, we haven't talked about oxalate or salicylate imbalances, which can add to that. So I just think that is a resource for folks that could really help them understand how they've gotten where they are, and understand the path out.Courtney: Right, right, because not everyone has all of these areas, but certainly could be held back or have a unique something that they could be getting relief from early on in the process. So I think it's both, to the degree that people are able to learn, and your book Toxic, too — it's like an encyclopedia, even if someone doesn't read straight through it, they can go to the mast cell section, or they can go to the Bartonella section.Neil: It was intended to be a readable way to understand this complexity, because it basically will talk about almost everything we've talked about today, and help people to get better understanding. I mean, we've talked about the bigger picture today. We didn't talk about, okay, how do you diagnose Lyme, how do you diagnose mold toxicity, how do you diagnose long-haul COVID, and most important, because this is very complicated, how do you decide which of those is the biggest player that you want to address first?Distinguishing Between Mold, Lyme & Long-COVID53:58Courtney: Right, I have shared resources on diagnosing mold toxicity. Would you comment on your last point — how do you recognize, are you using specific testing that you want to reference, the RealTime?Neil: I do. But I would emphasize, we're taught in medical school that if you really listen to patients, ninety-five percent of the time you will make the diagnosis by history alone. And I don't want to get too focused on testing, because listening to the patient and having them describe in detail what they're going through will really give you the little pieces you need to tease it apart to a certain degree. That's only possible to a certain degree, because there's a huge overlap between the symptoms of Lyme and Bartonella and mold and long-haul COVID and mast cell activation. Huge overlap. So there's little teeny pieces that will tend to lean more in one way than another. And honestly, that's what's required from all of us, literally years of study, to really get a handle on — someone will say something, okay, that's much more of a mold symptom than it is a Lyme symptom, something else. So I do encourage people, if they think they might have mold, to get a urine mycotoxin test. That has revolutionized our ability to make these diagnoses.Courtney: Would you still set RealTime as the preferred? That's what I've communicated to this audience.Neil: I would. Any test can help make the diagnosis, but for follow-up testing, the only one that's been really consistent is RealTime. And you want a follow-up test, so you want to know what your baseline starting is, and then you want to know, okay, am I getting these toxins out of my body? From my perspective, you know that you're done treating it when that RealTime comes back reading not present in every category. We have better tests now for Lyme than we've had in the past. Years ago, our tests were inadequate to say the least. And the CDC recognized years ago that the tests were so inadequate that it was basically a diagnosis made by a physician by examining all of the history and information that you had. That was enough — you didn't need a lab report to make the diagnosis of Lyme disease. A new test that I'm particularly fond of is Bruce Patterson's fourteen-panel cytokine test. This is a test that measures cytokines, which are the molecules of inflammation — cytokines are made by your immune system to deal with, or fight, different inflammational causes. And so what Dr. Patterson has discovered is there's a pattern of cytokines that we see with long-haul COVID, which is different than the pattern we see for Lyme. And I'm working with him now on the pattern for mold. So we can literally look at that test and look at, okay, what is inflaming this person primarily now, because I'm looking at that inflammational pattern, and I can literally read that. Some of my patients will have all of those on a particular test, or only one, but it really helps tease apart what is — I call it public enemy number one for my patient, what do I need to address as root cause right now. So our science is improving as we go here.A Message of Hope — and Where to Learn More58:49Courtney: And that's huge. Before we go — I think all of your books, but I'm thinking specifically about Toxic and The Sensitive Patient — all the information you generously share gives people a lot of hope who've been struggling out there. And I think your mentoring and teaching so many of us helps extend some of that reach. Is there anything you'd want to convey to people out there in the throes of chronic illness who are feeling hopeless and not getting the feedback from their doctors that this is something they can get beyond?Neil: Sure. My take-home message is always: everything we talked about today is treatable. Is there hope in there? You bet there is. But if you are not getting the help you need from whoever you are seeing, find someone who understands these things. For example, I do have on my website a list of physicians that I've trained over the years that I'm comfortable that they really know what they're doing — it's a growing list. There's someone like Courtney, who's been trained for years to do this, she's good at it. Find someone who knows what they're talking about, so that you can get someone who does embrace this complexity, and will look at it in its entirety, and then get you moving in the right direction, doing the right things in the right order. To me, this can be done. I mean, I have personally helped to cure four or five thousand people with mold toxicity, and an equal number of people with Lyme disease. So we can help the vast majority of people that we're seeing. So, regardless of how long you've been sick, if you haven't been properly diagnosed and you haven't gotten the right treatment, you can be helped.Courtney: Right, right, that's great. And for physicians out there who are interested in learning more about complex chronic illness — are there resources you would point to? I'll be sharing your books, because I think those are great references — but also how people can find what you're doing currently.Neil: Sure, my books — particularly with this discussion, Toxic and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide would be the two most appropriate. I would add that I have just finished writing a book on this whole subject of inflammation. It's currently being edited, I hope it'll be out by early next year. So if you stay tuned to my website, I'll let people know when that's going to be available. And I think, Courtney, what you're referring to is: I do have a mentorship program for healthcare providers. We now have three hundred and fifty-plus people in the mentorship program, it keeps growing. You were in one of the first groups — we started with eight, and then people kept wanting to get in on it. So we welcome people to join. If you go to my website, which is simply neilnathanmd.com, there's a whole thing which talks about the mentorship and how to sign up for it. So I certainly welcome people who want to learn more.Courtney: And then you offer consultations and professional consultations also?Neil: I do. My consultations — I am, at this point, since I'm semi-retired, not seeing people directly. But I do offer consultations with a patient and their primary treating physician — so we all get on a Zoom together, and we will go over the details of that person's history and their lab work, and I will help outline a treatment program that looks to me like it will get people well. And actually, Courtney, I actually do a lot of that — I'm not really retired, my wife will tell you. I stay pretty busy. I love helping people. I love being able to take this complicated information and tease it apart, so that I can help people to understand what they need to do, in what order, in order to get better.Courtney: And we're all grateful — grateful that you've followed your path, because so many people have benefited personally and professionally. So thank you for bringing your wisdom and expertise, really appreciate it.Neil: You're very welcome, happy to do that.You can find Dr. Nathan's information, consultations, and mentoring program through his website at neilnathanmd.com. If you'd like to help get this information out into the world, please consider liking, sharing, or commenting.Until next time,CourtneyCourtney Snyder MDDr. Courtney Snyder MD is a holistic, functional, and environmental psychiatrist for children and adults. Find her at courtneysnydermd.com and on the Holistic Psychiatry Podcast on all major platforms.Medical DisclaimerThis podcast is for educational purposes only and is not intended or implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Consult your own physician for any medical issues you may be having. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit courtneysnydermd.substack.com

Chronic illness rarely fits neatly into a single diagnosis. Symptoms can span multiple systems, leaving people profoundly unwell even when standard testing appears normal. I understand this experience from the inside out because I've lived it myself. Today, I sit down with Dr. Neil Nathan, a leading expert in complex chronic illness and author of Toxic, now in its second edition. We explore why these conditions are so often misunderstood and how identifying what is driving them can create a path toward recovery. We discuss: Why mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and long COVID can be so difficult to diagnose How to identify the root cause instead of chasing downstream symptoms What the Cell Danger Response is and why the body can remain stuck in survival mode Why some people suddenly become sensitive to foods, chemicals, medications, light, and sound Why the right treatment can make symptoms worse when introduced at the wrong time I've been sick enough to know how quickly chronic illness can narrow your world—and how discouraging it is when no one can explain why. But I'm also living proof that the body can recover. The answer is not always more treatment. Often, it begins with finding the root cause, respecting what the body can tolerate, and addressing each layer in the right order. View Show Notes From This Episode Sign up for Dr. Hyman's Brainshaping Academy to learn how to nourish the biological systems that support your mental, emotional, and cognitive health https://drhyman.com/products/brainshaping?utm_source=dr_hyman_show&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=may_27&utm_content=link Get Free Weekly Health Tips from Dr. Hyman https://drhyman.com/pages/picks?utm_campaign=shownotes&utm_medium=banner&utm_source=podcast Sign Up for Dr. Hyman's Weekly Longevity Journal https://drhyman.com/pages/longevity?utm_campaign=shownotes&utm_medium=banner&utm_source=podcast Join the 10-Day Detox to Reset Your Health https://drhyman.com/pages/10-day-detox Join the Hyman Hive for Expert Support and Real Results https://drhyman.com/pages/hyman-hive This episode is brought to you by BIOptimizers, Cozy Earth, Perfect Amino, Seatopia, Made In, and BON CHARGE. Shop Magnesium Breakthrough at bioptimizers.com/hyman and save 15% with code HYMAN. Upgrade your sleep setup with cozyearth.com and enjoy 20% off  with code HYMAN. Help fill protein gaps at bodyhealth.com and use code HYMAN20 for 20% off. Find a cleaner source of seafood. Check out seatopia.fish and use code HYMAN for free shipping on your first order. Shop for kitchen essentials at madeincookware.com and save 10% off your first order with code HYMAN-HIVE. Explore red light products at boncharge.com/hyman and enjoy 15% off with code HYMAN. (0:00) Introduction and Dr. Hyman's health journey (3:11) Challenges and limitations of conventional medicine (5:03) Environmental toxins and chronic illness (7:21) Identifying root causes and treatment order (16:14) Dr. Hyman's mold struggle, toxicity vs. sensitivity (21:01) Dr. Nathan's books and diagnosing chronic illnesses (28:53) Treatment strategies: primary cause, gut health, and mold (34:22) Addressing limbic, vagal, and mast cell issues first (39:52) Complexities of treating tick-borne infections (44:46) Emotional and psychological aspects of recovery (45:04) Encouragement and hope for chronic illness sufferers (46:36) Closing remarks and podcast info

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We've reached the end of another incredible season! To wrap up Season Six, I've once again combined all the top longevity tips shared by this season's guests. I am truly grateful to all the experts who generously shared their time and knowledge on the podcast. This season would not have been possible without them. Join me this summer as we revisit some of our greatest hits, and this fall for the launch of my third book, Your Hormone Blueprint, and a fantastic season seven!  The Biggest Top Tips for Functional Health and Longevity: Sleep and Recovery Prioritizing quality sleep and recovery time supports healing, energy production, resilience, and many of the processes that contribute to long-term health and longevity.  Purpose, Mindset, and Meaningful Connections Cultivating purpose, gratitude, emotional well-being, supportive relationships, and a healthy mindset can reduce stress and help create the foundation for a longer, healthier life.  Nutrition, Movement, and Metabolic Health Eating real food, staying physically active, maintaining muscle mass, managing inflammation, and optimizing body composition are fundamental strategies for supporting lifelong health and longevity.  Top Longevity Tip #1: Yvonne Karney (Episode 229) Yvonne Karney believes prioritizing sleep is one of the most important things you can do for healing, recovery, and longevity.  Top Longevity Tip #2: Aimie Apigian (Episode 230) Aimie Apigian encourages people to do their trauma work in a way that helps the body create new experiences rather than reliving old ones.  Top Longevity Tip #3: Andie Crosby (Episode 234) Andie Crosby recommends identifying and reducing the sources of inflammation in your daily life to support long-term health.  Top Longevity Tip #4: Povilas Sabaliauskas (Episode 236) Povilas Sabaliauskas suggests using blackout curtains as a simple and affordable way to improve sleep quality.  Top Longevity Tip #5: Larry & Belinda Wurn (Episode 237) Larry and Belinda Wurn encourage staying active, stretching regularly, listening to your body, and taking care of yourself.  Top Longevity Tip #6: Amy Wienands (Episode 238) Allana Polo believes gratitude and living with a purpose bigger than yourself are key ingredients for longevity.  Top Longevity Tip #7: Austin Lake (Episode 240) Austin Lake suggests adopting the mindset that you are a healthy person who is getting healthier, and reminds us that our body is designed to heal.  Top Longevity Tip #8: Ashley Koff (Episode 242) Ashley Koff believes in assessing and optimizing our weight health, as maintaining a healthy body composition is foundational to longevity.  Top Longevity Tip #9: Ryan Sternagel (Episode 244) Ryan Sternagel encourages people to stop seeking approval from others and make the health decisions that are right for them.  Top Longevity Tip #10: Allana Polo (Episode 248) Allana Polo recommends maintaining a healthy body weight, strong muscle mass, and low visceral fat to support long-term health.  Top Longevity Tip #11: Aaron Hartman (Episode 249) Aaron Hartman highlights fasting, exercise, and especially sleep as some of the most powerful tools for longevity.  Top Longevity Tip #12: Neil Nathan (Episode 251) Neil Nathan encourages people to discover what gives their lives meaning and purpose and to nurture loving relationships.  Top Longevity Tip #13: Peter Osborne (Episode 254) Peter Osborne suggests focusing on the daily choices that matter most, including real food, sleep, sunshine, movement, clean air, and clean water.  Top Longevity Tip #14: Dr. Jen Pfleghaar (Episode 257) Dr. Jen Pfleghaar believes finding peace through faith is one of the most meaningful approaches to longevity.  Top Longevity Tip #15: Jason Carpenter (Episode 261) Jason Carpenter advises investing in high-quality food and nutrition because what you put into your body influences your long-term health.  Top Longevity Tip #16: Emily Patel (Episode 263) Emily Patel emphasizes building a strong support community that can help lift you up emotionally through life's challenges. Links and Resources: Follow Your Longevity Blueprint  On Instagram| Facebook| Twitter| YouTube | LinkedIn Get your copy of the Your Longevity Blueprint book and claim your bonuses here Find Dr. Stephanie Gray and Your Longevity Blueprint online   Follow Dr. Stephanie Gray  on Facebook| Instagram| Youtube | Twitter | LinkedIn Integrative Health and Hormone Clinic Podcast production by Team Podcast 

Joining the conversation on Fully Alive, Zack Gurick sits down with Dr. Neil Nathan, a world-renowned physician and author of Toxic, to explore the hidden epidemics behind chronic illness recovery. Dr. Nathan shares his 50-year journey as a "medical detective," diving into the role of the limbic system, mold toxicity, and the deep need for safety in the healing process. Together, they outline a roadmap for those often dismissed by conventional medicine, shifting the focus from simply treating pathogens to helping the whole person move from toxic to truly thriving.The information presented in Fully Alive is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or treatment and before making changes to your health regimen. Guests' opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast host, production team, or sponsors.Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, & share! https://www.shellpoint.org/podcast/The information presented in Fully Alive is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or treatment and before making changes to your health regimen. Guests' opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the podcast host, production team, or sponsors.

In this interview, Dr. Neil Nathan and Leigh Ann explore the complex world of sensitive patients, limbic system dysfunction, and the interconnected roles of the vagus nerve and mast cells. Together, they discuss how understanding these systems can revolutionize treatment approaches for chronic illnesses like mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and long COVID. Other key topics include the definition of sensitive patients and their neurological basis, the specific roles of the limbic system, vagus nerve, and mast cells in sensitivity, and the signs and symptoms of dysregulation in these systems.Product Discount Codes + LinksJuna: Website (Discount Code: LEIGHANN)Broc Shot: Website (Discount Code: LEIGHANNLINDSEY)Hoolest: Website (Discount Code: THEACCRESCENT10)Episode LinksApollo Neuro Wearable: Website (Discount Code: THEACCRESCENT)Dynamic Neural Retraining System Primal TrustGuest InfoDr. Neil Nathan - WebsiteDr. Neil Nathan - InstagramRelated EpisodesPodcast Ep. 227: Dr. Talia - Emotional Support During Chronic Illness, What's Helpful and What's NOTPodcast Ep. 203: Anna Finck - Reconnecting to Our Bodies, Reclaiming Our Health, and Remembering Our PowerWork w/Leigh AnnLearn: What is EVOX Therapy?Book: Schedule a Session or FREE Discovery CallMembership: What is The Healing Alchemy MembershipConnect w/Me & Learn MoreWebsiteInstagramTiktokYoutube

Today, I'm excited to share Part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Neil Nathan.  In Part 1, we covered mold toxicity in depth, which set the stage for today's discussion. In this episode, we discuss Lyme disease, clarifying why it is challenging to diagnose and highlighting herbal protocols that can be helpful. Dr. Nathan also offers his recommendations for patients who have been struggling for years without finding a solution. How to treat Lyme disease without worsening herxheimer reactions: Reduce treatment doses if symptoms worsen instead of pushing through the discomfort Avoid killing the bacteria faster than your body can process the released toxins  Start with extremely small treatment doses if you are highly sensitive Recognize that even tiny amounts of treatment can still move your recovery forward Focus on steady, tolerable progress rather than aggressive treatment strategies Bio: Dr. Neil Nathan Neil Nathan, MD, has been practicing medicine for over 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management, and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI.  He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks.  He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness, (2nd edition just released).  Winter of 2021 he saw the publication of Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, was released in 2024, and the 2nd edition of Toxic is just out in September, 2025.  In this episode: The importance of getting to the root cause before detoxing  Dr. Nathan describes the symptoms of Lyme disease Supporting detox pathways when treating for mold toxicity and other chronic infections Why some people are very sensitive, and how Dr. Nathan's treatment approach differs for those individuals How limbic system dysfunction drives sensory and mood-related issues Why the vagus and limbic systems must be rebooted together for proper recovery, and how it's done The importance of identifying and treating mast cell activation How exposure to mold and other environmental toxins can impact your longevity Links and Resources: Integrative Health and Hormone Clinic (IHH Clinic)

Have you ever experienced unexplained fatigue, brain fog, chronic pain, or mysterious symptoms no one can figure out? If so, today's conversation may possibly change everything for you. I am thrilled to have Dr. Neil Nathan join me for a two-part series. Today, in Part 1, we explore mold toxicity, clarify what it is, and explain why it is often overlooked, how to know if it's affecting you, and most importantly, what you can do about it. How to Effectively Address Mold Toxicity Remove yourself from the moldy environment Use binders to target the specific mycotoxins identified in your body Treat mold colonization in your sinuses or gut if necessary Combine an antifungal treatment with agents to break down any protective biofilms Continue with the treatment until your mold toxin levels have decreased and all your symptoms are resolved Bio: Dr. Neil Nathan Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for over 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI.  He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks.  He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness, (2nd edition just released).  Winter of 2021 he saw the publication of Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, was released in 2024 and the 2nd edition of Toxic is just out in September, 2025.  In this episode: Why mold toxicity is far more common than most people realize How mold toxicity can affect multiple organ systems at the same time How both mold toxicity and Lyme disease can cause widespread, systemic inflammation, and their symptoms can overlap The subtle neurological and mood changes that could show up before a diagnosis How unexplained symptoms are sometimes dismissed  Why modern homes with reduced airflow could increase the risk of mold-related illness How today's toxic environment can stress the liver and kidneys- our organs of detoxification How the concept of mold toxicity has not yet been embraced by conventional medicine  Links and Resources: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sinus Support Use code BIND to get 10% off ⁠⁠⁠ENVIROBIND ⁠https://yourlongevityblueprint.com/product/glutathione-60-ct/ Guest Social Media Links: Instagram (@askdrnathan)  Website Relative Links for This Show: Follow Your Longevity Blueprint  On Instagram| Facebook| Twitter| YouTube | LinkedIn Get your copy of the Your Longevity Blueprint book and claim your bonuses here Find Dr. Stephanie Gray and Your Longevity Blueprint online   Follow Dr. Stephanie Gray  On Facebook| Instagram| Youtube | Twitter | LinkedIn Integrative Health and Hormone Clinic Podcast production by Team Podcast

Welcome to Resiliency Radio with Dr. Jill Carnahan, where today's episode revisits one of the most complex and misunderstood areas in integrative medicine: toxic mold illness and the highly sensitive patient. Dr. Jill is joined by renowned functional medicine pioneer Dr. Neil Nathan, author of Toxic: Heal Your Body and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, for a powerful and deeply insightful conversation on environmental toxins, limbic dysfunction, mast cell activation, and healing chronic inflammatory illness. In this episode, Dr. Jill Carnahan and Dr. Nathan explore why many highly sensitive individuals struggle with conventional detox protocols—and how healing requires safety, precision, and a stepwise approach. This discussion offers both clinicians and patients a roadmap for navigating mold illness, nervous system overload, and sensitivity syndromes with greater clarity and compassion. ✨ Like, subscribe, and share to help more sensitive patients find safe and effective pathways to recovery.

Welcome to Resiliency Radio with Dr. Jill Carnahan, where today's episode uncovers one of the most urgent and invisible threats to human health: microplastics. Dr. Jill is joined by internationally respected environmental medicine expert Dr. Lynn Patrick for a deep, science-based discussion on how microplastics are quietly changing human biology—from the gut to the brain to the cardiovascular system. In this eye-opening conversation, Dr. Jill Carnahan and Dr. Patrick explore why microplastics may pose an even greater long-term risk than PFAS and other "forever chemicals." You'll learn how **nanoplastics—now responsible for up to 90% of exposure—**are small enough to cross the gut lining, lungs, blood-brain barrier, and even the placenta, accumulating in tissues with no effective exit pathway. Key topics include: ① Why microplastics act as "Trojan horses" for pesticides, heavy metals, and endocrine-disrupting chemicals ② Research linking microplastics to heart disease, dementia, IBD, and colorectal cancer ③ The alarming rise of plastic particles found in human brain tissue ④ How everyday items—bottled water, food packaging, and tea bags—drive exposure ⑤ Why microplastics overwhelm detox pathways and resist normal elimination ⑥ Emerging strategies for exposure reduction, including water filtration, avoidance, and the evolving role of plasmapheresis ⇨ Dr. Patrick also shares decades of clinical insight into environmental toxicology and explains why awareness—not fear—is the first step toward protection in a plastic-saturated world. ❤️ If you care about long-term brain health, cardiovascular health, gut integrity, and environmental medicine, this episode offers critical knowledge and practical strategies to reduce risk and protect resilience. ✨ Like, subscribe, and share to help others understand the hidden exposures shaping modern health.

I am honored to connect with Dr. Neil Nathan today. Dr. Nathan has been practicing medicine for over 50 years. He is board-certified in family medicine and pain management, a founding diplomat of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine, and a founding member of the International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness. He is also a published author and has recently released an updated and expanded version of his book, Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. In our discussion, we explore various complex medical illnesses and the effects of mold, chronic inflammation, immunosenescence, and genetics on the immune system, vagus nerve, and limbic system. We discuss mold exposure and colonization, and what that means for midlife women, along with MCAS, Lyme disease, and mast cell degranulation, and we examine Epstein-Barr as a symptom rather than a primary driver. We also cover limbic and vagal retraining, and Dr. Nathan shares his systematic approach to supporting the adrenal glands and to detoxification efforts in treatment. This episode with the renowned Dr. Neil Nathan is like a mini masterclass on complex medical illnesses. I found his book super-informative and probably the most systematic source I've ever read on mold, Lyme, and complex medical problems. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN: • How our current medical system fails to support complex patients • How limited appointment times prevent root-cause investigation • What mold colonization means and why its location in the body matters • Why leaving a moldy environment does not always resolve symptoms • How Epstein-Barr often signals immune dysfunction rather than causing it • Why limbic retraining is essential in today's world • Dr. Nathan shares his systematic approach to adrenal support  • Practical steps to support liver, gut, kidney, and lymphatic detoxification • Why addressing mold and Candida must precede SIBO treatment Connect with Cynthia Thurlow   Follow on X, Instagram & LinkedIn Check out Cynthia's website Submit your questions to support@cynthiathurlow.com Join other like-minded women in a supportive, nurturing community (The Midlife Pause/Cynthia Thurlow)  Cynthia's Menopause Gut Book is on presale now! Cynthia's Intermittent Fasting Transformation Book The Midlife Pause supplement line Connect with Dr. Neil Nathan On his website

Dr. Neil Nathan is Board Certified in Family Medicine and Pain Management as well as a Founding Dip-low-mitt of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine & International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illnesses.He spent over 50 years treating patients with chronic conditions related to environmental factors & now dedicates himself consulting & mentorship, writing several books for both health care professionals & patients.In this episode, you'll hear mold allergy vs illness, what symptoms mold toxicity can imitate, how to really test & what healing protocol can look like. If you liked this episode, you'll also like episode 234: FELON TO MILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS OWNER [REMASTERED] Guest: https://neilnathanmd.com/ Host:  https://www.meredithforreal.com/  https://www.instagram.com/meredithforreal/ meredith@meredithforreal.comhttps://www.youtube.com/meredithforreal  https://www.facebook.com/meredithforrealthecuriousintrovert  Sponsors: https://www.jordanharbinger.com/starterpacks/ https://www.historicpensacola.org/about-us/  01:35 — Conditions mold mimics04:00 — “It's not psychological”05:00 — Why medicine lags behind06:00 — The mold hoax narrative08:00 — How common mold really is11:00 — Mold and Alzheimer's risk12:00 — GI symptoms decoded13:00 — Fatigue that doesn't resolve18:00 — Mold toxicity vs allergy19:00 — Immune system tipping points20:00 — Stress, illness, and timing21:00 — Hive consciousness explained22:00 — Candida cravings aren't you23:00 — Zombie mold metaphor24:00 — EMFs enter the picture27:00 — Testing for mold toxicity38:00 — Low-carb for mold healing41:00 — Alcohol's real impact42:00 — Magnesium's critical role43:00 — Chronic deficiency mystery47:00 — Hormones after mold48:00 — Limbic system overload49:00 — Vagus nerve dysfunction50:00 — Mast cell activation51:00 — Rebooting nervous systems52:00 — Brain retraining programs58:00 — Detox hygiene at home59:00 — Why bleach backfires01:00:00 — Dust vs airflow01:01:00 — Water damage vigilance01:02:00 — Detox tools worth using01:04:00 — Balance over biohacking01:05:00 — What healing really requires01:06:00 — Living with intention01:07:00 — Final takeaways & resourcesRequest to join my private Facebook Group, MFR Curious Insiders https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1BAt3bpwJC/

For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the distinctions between mold illness and CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They clarify the confusion surrounding these terms, which are often used interchangeably online, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Shoemaker Protocol for those genetically predisposed to CIRS. They'll cover how to find out if you have the genetic markers associated with CIRS, how to get properly diagnosed so you don't waste time and money on the wrong treatment, and why generic mold detox methods may not be sufficient for CIRS patients. They'll also discuss the hidden dangers of antifungal agents and the importance of targeting specific biotoxins in treatment. This episode is a valuable resource for those seeking clarity and effective treatment options to heal from chronic illness. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:44 Understanding mold illness vs CIRS 03:12 Why your genetics matter, and how to diagnose CIRS 04:58 Why some people get sick and others don't 06:25 Shoemaker Protocol vs. Mold Detox Protocols 07:00 Pros and Cons with Dr. Neil Nathan or Dr. Jill Cresta protocols 11:09 Importance of accurate testing for diagnosis 13:58 Taking the right binders and treating MARCoNs 16:43 Tracking symptoms, hormones, and bloodwork during treatment 19:28 Azole (antifungal) treatment 22:48 Why we warn people against mainstream mold doctors 23:52 Final Thoughts and Resources For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-test Our episode on urinary mycotoxin tests: https://youtu.be/qWIIBaMybFA?si=gY6w_JmuuPn1pdOk MARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits Study showing antifungals or -azoles causing brain atrophy (search the text using control + F for 'antifungal' or 'atrophy'): https://www.oatext.com/metabolism-molecular-hypometabolism-and-inflammation-complications-of-proliferative-physiology-include-metabolic-acidosis-pulmonary-hypertension.php Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/ Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie's book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Dr. Hoffman continues his conversation with Dr. Neil Nathan, author of “Toxic 2nd Edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness.”

Understanding and Treating Complex Illnesses with Dr. Neil Nathan, author of “Toxic 2nd Edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness.” Dr. Nathan shares his expertise on the multifaceted nature of chronic illnesses, which often defy simple categorization and may be misdiagnosed as psychiatric issues. The discussion covers the impact of environmental toxins, electromagnetic fields, and infections like Lyme disease and long COVID. Dr. Nathan also highlights the importance of understanding inflammation's complex pathways and offers suggestions for both elimination of root causes and restoration of immune system functionality. The episode provides insights into new diagnostic tools and treatment methodologies for persistent and intrusive health issues.

Support your health journey with our private practice! Explore comprehensive lab testing, functional assessments, and expert guidance for your wellness journey. Find exclusive offers for podcast listeners at nutritionwithjudy.com/podcast. _____Dr. Neil and I dive deep into the differences between mold illness and Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS), exploring why not all patients respond to the same protocols. We also break down the role of nervous system dysregulation, especially the limbic and vagal systems, in patients who stay sick despite detox protocols. Make sure to watch the full interview to learn more.Dr. Neil Nathan, MD, is a seasoned physician board‑certified in family medicine and pain management, and a founding diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine (ABoIHM). He has authored books such as Toxic: Heal Your Body and focuses on treating complex chronic conditions including environmental illness, mold toxicity, Lyme disease, mast cell activation and more.We discuss the following:All about Dr. Neil NathanWhat to address first when starting a protocolUse of urine mycotoxin testingActinos discussionUrinary mycotoxin testing approachClean environment standardsUse of antifungalsPreferred mycotoxin testing labDr. Shoemaker perspective on antifungalsEvaluating antifungal optionsWhere to find Dr. Neil Nathan_____EPISODE RESOURCESWebsiteToxic bookThe Sensitive Patient's Healing GuideProject LymeDr. Neil Nathan on Mold and MCAS with Dr. Tania DempseyWhen You're Not Getting Better blogNwJ Actinos articleEFH Personalized Health PlanEFH CIRS TestingEFH CIRS Environment ERMI Guide Bundle_____WEEKLY NEWSLETTER 

View the Show Notes For This Episode Dr. Neil Nathan discusses Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, and Environmental Toxins with Dr. Ben Weitz.   [If you enjoy this podcast, please give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, so more people will find The Rational Wellness Podcast. Also check out the video version on my WeitzChiro YouTube page.]  Podcast Highlights Understanding and Treating Complex Chronic Illnesses with Dr. Neil Nathan   In this episode of the Rational Wellness Podcast, host Dr. Ben Weitz interviews Dr. Neil Nathan, an expert in treating complex chronic illnesses such as mold toxicity, Lyme disease, mast cell activation syndrome, and multiple chemical sensitivities. Dr. Nathan shares insights from his 50-year career, including how to identify these conditions through specific symptoms and the importance of environment assessment. They discuss effective testing methods, treatment approaches, and managing coexisting conditions. The conversation also covers the role of mold in these chronic illnesses and underlines the necessity of personalized treatment plans. Dr. Nathan also touches on the significance of limbic and vagal nerve treatments and shares his experience with various diagnostic and therapeutic tools.   00:00 Introduction to the Rational Wellness Podcast 00:29 Meet Dr. Neil Nathan: Pioneer in Treating Complex Chronic Illnesses 02:02 Understanding Mold Toxicity and Lyme Disease 05:58 Testing for Mold and Lyme: Effective Methods and Challenges 18:26 Mast Cell Activation Syndrome: Symptoms and Diagnosis 21:31 Approach to Treating Complex Patients 28:16 Mold Treatment Protocols and Environmental Considerations 31:25 Understanding Mycotoxin Binders 32:00 Antifungal Treatments for Mold Colonization 32:22 Detoxification Strategies and Patient Sensitivity 35:00 Combination Binders and Patient Sensitivity 39:45 Probiotics and Antibiotics for Lyme and Bartonella 45:42 Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and Limbic System Reboot 51:50 Common Mistakes in Treating Chronic Illness 58:01 Final Thoughts and Resources     Dr. Neil Nathan is a Medical Doctor who is a pioneer in the treatment of complex chronic illnesses including mold toxicity, Lyme disease, mast cell activation syndrome, multiple chemical sensitivities, and other environmental illnesses. Dr. Nathan has spent 50 years treating some of the most sensitive and complex patients recover their health and studying and learning and teaching how to treat such patients. He has written a number of books, including On Hope and Healing, Healing is Possible, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment 2016 (just updated, as an e-book, Mold and Mycotoxins 2022), Toxic 2nd edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness, Energetic Diagnosis, and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide.  His website is NeilNathanMD.com. Dr. Ben Weitz is available for Functional Nutrition consultations specializing in Functional Gastrointestinal Disorders like IBS/SIBO and Reflux and also Cardiometabolic Risk Factors like elevated lipids, high blood sugar, and high blood pressure.  Dr. Weitz has also successfully helped many patients with managing their weight and improving their athletic performance, as well as sports chiropractic work by calling his Santa Monica office 310-395-3111.  

Why You Should Listen:  In this episode, you will learn about the latest approaches to healing your body from mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and other complex, chronic health conditions. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Neil Nathan.  Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for over 50 years and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including "Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses" and "On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks."  He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his eBook, "Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016" (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness."  2021 saw the publication of "Energetic Diagnosis," a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness.  In 2024, his book "The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide" was released with a focus on how to approach the treatment of sensitive patients.  And most recently, in late 2025, the second edition of his book "Toxic" was released with several years of new information and insights on healing from complex chronic conditions.  Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 30 years now, and Lyme disease for the past 20 years.  As his practice has evolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments, and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them to recover. Key Takeaways: Is Long COVID the Great Unmasker? Is POTS an underlying cause or is it a symptom? How might the Radiance Long Hauler testing be helpful? What supplements or botanicals may be helpful for those in a Cell Danger Response? Are hormones generally well-tolerated when one is in a Cell Danger Response? When might be the right time to introduce PC?  VIP? What are the more common sensitizers of a sensitive patient? What are the more common drivers of MCAS? What are some strategies for modulating the inflammatory response? Is MCS the same as MCAS? Should limbic retraining be more active? How often are mycotoxins seen in patients with Alzheimer's? Does HLA-DR impact a patient's recovery potential? How do you handle a suspected mold illness patient when their urine mycotoxin testing is negative? What is the best binder for mycophenolic acid?  Chaetoglobosin? Do the benefits of bentonite clay outweigh the potential risks? What is the source of gliotoxin in the body? How is the treatment of fungal colonization approached? What role have Actinobacteria and endotoxins played in treating patients? Can Bartonella be treated with natural antimicrobials alone? Does treating mold and Lyme improve EDS? Can secondary porphyria be an indication that the antimicrobial is working? What is the role of EMFs in chronic illness? How large of a factor are parasites? Do mold and Lyme contribute to ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, autism, and PANS/PANDAS? What is the role of nitric oxide in recovering health? Connect With My Guest:  NeilNathanMD.com Related Resources: Toxic 2nd Edition: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness Interview Date: September 29, 2025 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode223. Support the Show: To support the show and Buy Me a Coffee, visit https://betterhealthguy.link/BuyMeACoffee. Additional Information: To learn more, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com. Follow Me on Social Media: Facebook - https://facebook.com/betterhealthguy Instagram - https://instagram.com/betterhealthguy X - https://twitter.com/betterhealthguy TikTok - https://tiktok.com/@betterhealthguy Disclaimer:  The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority. 

Welcome back to The Integrative Health Podcast! In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Neil Nathan, MD—physician, teacher, and author with over 50 years of experience helping patients with complex chronic illness.We dive deep into the importance of finding and treating the root causes of illness rather than just masking symptoms. Dr. Nathan shares why listening to a patient's story is the most powerful diagnostic tool, and how conditions like mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS) are often at the core of chronic health struggles.Dr. Nathan walks us through his staged treatment approach—starting with rebooting the limbic and vagal nervous systems, stabilizing mast cells, and then carefully addressing the underlying root cause.We also explore how COVID-19 can unmask hidden illness, why many patients feel unheard in conventional medicine, and how hope is the most powerful medicine of all.This is an eye-opening, compassionate conversation for anyone navigating chronic illness or supporting a loved one through it.PODCAST: Thank you for listening please subscribe and share!Shop supplements: https://healthybydrjen.shop/CHECK OUT a list of my Favorite products here: https://www.healthybydrjen.com/drjenfavoritesFOLLOW ME:Instagram :: https://www.instagram.com/integrativedrmom/Facebook :: https://www.facebook.com/integrativedrmomYouTube :: https://www.youtube.com/@integrativedrmomFTC: Some links included in this description might be affiliate links. If you purchase a product through one of them, I will receive a commission (at no additional cost to you). I truly appreciate your support of my channel. Thank you for watching! Video is not sponsored.DISCLAIMER: This podcast does not contain any medical or health related diagnosis or treatment advice. Content provided on this podcast is for informational purposes only. For any medical or health related advice, please consult with a physician or other healthcare professionals. Further, information about specific products or treatments within this podcast are not to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease.PODCAST: Thank you for listening please subscribe and share! Shop supplements: https://healthybydrjen.shop/CHECK OUT a list of my Favorite products here: https://www.healthybydrjen.com/drjenfavorites FOLLOW ME:Instagram :: https://www.instagram.com/integrativedrmom/Facebook :: https://www.facebook.com/integrativedrmomYouTube :: https://www.youtube.com/@integrativedrmom FTC: Some links included in this description might be affiliate links. If you purchase a product through one of them, I will receive a commission (at no additional cost to you). I truly appreciate your support of my channel. Thank you for watching! Video is not sponsored. DISCLAIMER: This podcast does not contain any medical or health related diagnosis or treatment advice. Content provided on this podcast is for informational purposes only. For any medical or health related advice, please consult with a physician or other healthcare professionals. Further, information about specific products or treatments within this podcast are not to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease.

 My second interview with Hank Allen of Eagle, Idaho centers on Hank's claim that his electrical sensitivity dramatically diminished after he reduced the mold burden in his body using the approach described in Neil Nathan's book, Toxic. So dramatic was the improvement that Hank was able not only to attend his daughter's high-school graduation as he had hoped, but also to take the family on a vacation to Italy where he felt well. We also talk about faith, the current status of the lawsuit supported by CHD, and Hank's view that changes to radio-frequency safety guidelines — and he believes that broader support for the president and his HHS secretary would be beneficial. Finally, we clarify something from episode 83: Hank's reports of atrial fibrillation episodes that he says occurred at particular hours and while positioned on a line between cell towers—fascinating! Support the showContinue the journey with the EMF Remedy Premium Podcast, with over 110 episodes and counting! Keith Cutter is President of EMF Remedy LLChttps://www.emfremedy.com/YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp8jc5qb0kzFhMs4vtgmNlgKeith's SubstackThe EMF Remedy Podcast is a production of EMF Remedy LLC

If you've ever felt like your body is falling apart for no reason—and no doctor seems to know why—this is one episode you can't miss. Because what if the real problem isn't you... it's your environment? Things like hidden mold, heavy metals, or even parasites could be silently wrecking your health. And chances are, your doctor isn't even looking for them.----------You can find Dr. Neil Nathan at neilnathanmd.com or on FacebookAnd get his book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide----------Want to learn more about how our program can help you lose weight and get healthy FOR LIFE without dieting or drugs, then I'd love to invite you to join me for my FREE training!It will walk you through it all, and it's really good and really helpful.To get all the info and get signed up, just go to thinlicious.com/happy. 

In this very personal and insightful episode of The MindHealth360 Show, Ashok Gupta – internationally renowned health practitioner and creator of the Gupta Program – joins us to discuss how brain retraining can reverse chronic illness and heal the nervous system. Gupta shares the powerful story behind the creation of his program, which he developed after suffering from ME/CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) as a student at Cambridge University. Through his own neurological research and treatment plans, Gupta achieved full recovery and has since helped thousands of others do the same.  Kirkland Newman shares her own journey through mould toxicity, nervous system dysregulation, and severe neurological symptoms, and how the Gupta Program – recommended to her by Dr. Neil Nathan – was instrumental in her recovery. Together, they explore how chronic stress, trauma, and environmental triggers can lead to maladaptive brain responses that keep the body stuck in illness, and how brain retraining offers a path to healing.  In this compelling episode, Gupta explains the science behind his program, its origins, and how it helps people with conditions such as ME/CFS, CIRS, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, Fibromyalgia, long COVID, mould illness, anxiety, and other neurological and mental health conditions. He also reflects on the broader implications of neuroplasticity and the mind-body connection in the treatment of chronic disease.  In this episode you will learn about:  How Ashok Gupta developed the Gupta Program after healing from chronic fatigue syndrome during his time at Cambridge University.  The role of brain retraining in reversing neurological and mental health symptoms caused by an inflammatory and immune response driven initially by toxins and pathogens, and leading to a dysregulated nervous system and chronic symptoms Why chronic illness is often rooted in a “trauma loop” within the brain's limbic system.  How the Gupta Program uses neuroplasticity to interrupt maladaptive patterns and rewire the brain toward healing.  Why environmental triggers like mould can activate a dysfunctional threat response in the brain.  How Ashok Gupta's recovery journey led to the creation of a structured, evidence-based program that has helped thousands of people globally.  A firsthand account from host Kirkland Newman on how the Gupta Program helped relieve her symptoms of tremors, anxiety, fasciculations, and more.  The importance of viewing chronic illness through the lens of the brain-body connection, and the role of hope and empowerment in recovery.   

In this powerful episode of the Tick Boot Camp Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Myriah Hinchey, a Lyme-literate naturopathic physician whose personal battle with Lyme disease, Babesia, and Bartonella shaped her pioneering approach to treatment. Dr. Hinchey is the founder and medical director of Tao Center for Vitality, Longevity & Optimal Health, creator of LymeCore Botanicals, and founder of LymeBytes, a global educational platform for Lyme disease. Dr. Hinchey shares how her journey from misdiagnosed childhood infections to a transformative diagnosis in her mid-30s inspired a career of advocacy and innovation in integrative Lyme treatment. Discover why she believes most chronic Lyme sufferers can heal — and how focusing on terrain, immune modulation, gut health, and targeted herbal antimicrobials makes recovery possible.

Dr Neil Nathan:Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for over 50 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his ebook, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016, (now updated to 2022), and then to his best-selling book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness. Winter of 2021 saw the publication of Energetic Diagnosis, a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His newest book is planned for release by January, 2024, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide. He can be contacted most easily through his website www.neilnathanmd.com, through which consultations are available. He is currently providing mentorship in the treatment of chronic inflammatory illness to approximately 200 physicians, with Jill Crista, ND and for those interested in mentorship, please use the website to register. Dr. Nathan has been treating chronic complex medical illnesses for 30 years now, and Lyme disease for the past 20 years. As his practice has evolved, he finds himself increasingly treating the patients who have become so sensitive and toxic that they can no longer tolerate their usual treatments, and his major current interest is in finding unique ways of helping them to recover.Dr Neil Nathan's Links:Website: www.neilnathanmd.comFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/thecuttingedgeofhealthandwellnesstoday/Dr Steph's Links: Mast Cell Course: https://stephaniepeacock.com/mast-cellTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drstephpeacock Instgram: https://www.instagram.com/drstephpeacock/ Sunlighten: https://www.facebook.com/HealthyGutCompany/ code: DRPEACOCK Airdoctor: https://stephaniepeacock.com/affiliate-airdoctor AquaTru: https://stephaniepeacock.com/affiliate-aquatru Prolon: https://stephaniepeacock.com/affiliate-prolon Work with me: https://stephaniepeacock.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter: https://stephanies-newsletter-c410d1.beehiiv.com/subscribe

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Are you or someone you know struggling with unexplained anxiety, fatigue, or reactivity? In this short episode, Dr. Aimie dives deep into the conversation she had with Dr. Neil Nathan in episode 113 about how hidden infections like mold toxicity and Lyme disease can create a "biology of threat" within your body. She'll explore: How mold and Lyme can trigger physiological symptoms that mimic trauma responses The 3 interconnected systems that keep your body in constant threat mode Practical steps to regulate your nervous system and reduce sensitivity Ready to learn more on how mold toxicity and Lyme disease can affect not just the body but the mind as well? Listen to Episode 113: Hidden Triggers: How Mold and Lyme Create A Sensitive and Reactive Personality with Dr. Neil Nathan   Disclaimer: By listening to this podcast, you agree not to use this podcast as medical advice to treat any medical condition in either yourself or others. Consult your own physician for any medical issues that you may be having. This entire disclaimer also applies to any guests or contributors to the podcast. Under no circumstances shall Trauma Healing Accelerated, any guests or contributors to The Biology of Trauma® podcast, or any employees, associates, or affiliates of Trauma Healing Accelerated be responsible for damages arising from the use of the podcast.  

Neil Nathan, MD, has been practicing medicine for over 50 years, specializing in chronic complex illnesses, mold toxicity, and Lyme disease. A founding diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and ISEAI, he has authored several books, including Toxic and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide. He lectures internationally on environmental illnesses and has mentored over 200 physicians in treating chronic inflammatory conditions. Dr. Nathan continues to pioneer new approaches for patients who are highly sensitive and unable to tolerate conventional treatments. ****** Sign up for our FREE newsletter: https://go.nutritionwithconfidence.com/nwc-newsletter-sign-up  SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@HealingwithConfidencePodcast?sub_confirmation=1  Website: https://nutritionwithconfidence.com Follow Natalie on TWITTER (X): https://x.com/natalie_earle?mx=2 Follow Natalie on INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/nutritionwithconfidence/?hl=en *****  Dr Neil Nathan's Links: Website - https://neilnathanmd.com/ Dr Nathan's Books - https://neilnathanmd.com/about-me/ Dr Crista's Book - https://drcrista.com/product/break-the-mold-book/ #MoldToxicityTreatment #DrNeilNathan #HealingFromMold

“If you have a new onset of anxiety or depression that doesn't even make sense to you, think of a more physical cause.” - Dr. Neil Nathan   Do you have issues with focus, concentration, or even finding the word you want to use? If so, you might be dealing with the hidden effects of mold toxicity and Lyme disease.  In this episode, Dr. Aimie sits down with Dr. Neil Nathan to discuss how mold toxicity and Lyme disease can create a "biology of threat" in the body that can trigger and maintain a state of hypervigilance and reactivity. This is not the only issue  mold toxins and Lyme infections can cause. They can create unique inflammatory responses that affect the brain, nervous system, and immune function, often manifesting as unexplained anxiety, depression, cognitive issues, and physical symptoms that are often misdiagnosed as mental health disorders. Dr. Nathan also introduces "the big three" factors keeping the body stuck in threat mode: limbic activation, vagal dysregulation, and mast cell activation. He'll share how these become dysregulated when faced with mold toxicity and Lyme disease, causing the body to shut down as a protective mechanism. This explains why you may experience seemingly inexplicable sensitivities and reactions despite doing all the "right" emotional and psychological work for trauma recovery. Join them as they break down the science behind the body's response to mold toxicity and Lyme disease, if it's possible to reverse it, and actionable steps you can take to start the healing journey. You'll learn more about: [05:05] How “out of the blue” anxiety, depression, or other symptoms might actually be caused by mold or Lyme [10:00] What makes the inflammation associated with these internal stressors unique [16:46]  Why the “big three” need to be addressed together in sensitive patients [17:38] How mold toxicity and Lyme can lead to chronic neurological and autoimmune conditions [20:33] The internal trauma response that can be created by mold toxicity and Lyme And more!   Dr. Neil Nathan is a Board Certified Family Physician who has been practicing medicine for over 50 years. As he studied and learned a wide variety of alternative concepts, his practice gravitated into primarily helping to diagnose and treat those patients who have not been helped by conventional medicine. He's worked with thousands of patients with complex medical illnesses such as fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, mold toxicity, chronic Lyme disease, autism, and chronic pain.    Related Podcasts: Episode 105: How Anxiety, Depression & Trauma Reactions May Be From Mold and Heavy Metals Episode 106: How Mast Cell Activation, Histamines & Mold Toxicity Place You in a High-Risk Trauma Category   Guides, Tools & Resources: The Essential Sequence - free guide that shows you the difference between stress and trauma states of our nervous system. In just 3 steps, it walks you through what your body needs when it has stored trauma or is in a freeze response. Foundational Journey - a guided 6 week journey into your inner world with a structured sequence of somatic and parts interventions with live online classes. One of the things that happens in just the first 21 days of the Foundational Journey is that people experience a 26% decrease in daily physical pain, speaking to what Dr Schubiner was just talking about, these neural secret pains, can turn off and on, and it's not actually necessarily due to the the injury the body itself. It is a neural circuit and we're managing the pain just by working with the nervous system, looking at the habitual component of it and continuing with essential parts work.   Connect with Dr. Neil Nathan: Website   Disclaimer: By listening to this podcast, you agree not to use this podcast as medical advice to treat any medical condition in either yourself or others. Consult your own physician for any medical issues that you may be having. This entire disclaimer also applies to any guests or contributors to the podcast. Under no circumstances shall Trauma Healing Accelerated, any guests or contributors to The Biology of Trauma® podcast, or any employees, associates, or affiliates of Trauma Healing Accelerated be responsible for damages arising from the use of the podcast. Comment Etiquette: I would love to hear your thoughts on this episode! Please share your constructive feedback by using personal name or initials so that we can keep this space spam-free, and let's keep the discussion positive!  

EVEN MORE about this episode!What if you could tap into your intuition to unlock deep healing? In this episode, Marie Manuchehri, an intuitive healer and former oncology nurse, reveals how she bridges spirituality and modern medicine to uncover the emotional roots of illness. With x-ray-like vision and the ability to telepathically communicate with the body, she shares how addressing energetic imbalances can transform health.Marie's journey is woven with ancestral wisdom, influenced by her Cherokee healer great-grandmother, and insights from Dr. Neil Nathan on the role of Native American traditions in holistic healing. Together, they explore the profound power of intuition and how embracing it can elevate your well-being and decision-making.In this powerful conversation, you'll learn to awaken your own intuitive gifts, harness energy for healing, and use spiritual connection to manifest joy and transformation. Ready to unlock your innate abilities?Guest Biography:Marie Manuchehri is an intuitive healer, medium, and former oncology nurse who helps clients worldwide through energy healing and mediumship. Passionate about teaching intuition and energy awareness, she offers courses that empower others to unlock their own healing abilities. Marie hosts the bi-weekly podcast "Where Energy Meets the Divine" and is the author of Intuitive Self-Healing and How to Communicate with Your Spirit Guides.Episode Chapters:(0:00:01) - Intuitive Insights(0:13:48) - Elevating Frequency and Vibration(0:22:45) - Unleashing Intuition and Healing Energy(0:34:05) - Teaching Clients to Discern Emotions(0:41:25) - Manifesting and Energy Dynamics(0:51:21) - Spiritual Realms and Incarnation Purposes(0:58:17) - Spiritual Guidance and ResourcesSubscribe to Ask Julie Ryan YouTubeSubscribe to Ask Julie Ryan Español YouTubeSubscribe to Ask Julie Ryan Português YouTubeSubscribe to Ask Julie Ryan Deutsch YouTube✏️Ask Julie a Question!

In this episode, Dr. Leah interviews her brilliant colleague and dear friend, Dr. Leslie Black. They chat all about mold and how it impacts fertility in both women and men. Dr. Leslie breaks down what toxic mold is, where it's found, how to test for it, and what to do about it. She is a wealth of knowledge and we are so excited that she has been able to share her expertise with us! Without further ado, let's get started! This episode is sponsored by:Needed >> Click here and use code HEALTHYMOTHER to save 20% off your first order.Resources From This Episode:Dr. Leah's Fertility Formula Program“Moldy Movie" DocumentaryDr. Jill Crista's website and book "Break the Mold"Dr. Neil Nathan's book "Toxic"Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker's books Mold Illness and Surviving Mold and website Create Your Health HomeMold MasterclassNational Air Duct Cleaners Association (NADCA)Connect With Our Guest:Instagram: @drleslieblackWebsite: www.drleslieblack.comStay Connected With Us:Healthy As A Mother: www.healthyasamother.comInstagram: @healthyasamotherpodcastDr. Leah: www.womanhoodwellness.comInstagram: @drleahgordonDr. Morgan: www.milkmedicine.comInstagram: @morganmacdermott

Dr. Neil Nathan is a renowned physician and bestselling author specializing in the treatment of chronic illness, particularly those related to environmental toxins, vector-borne infections, and complex systemic disorders. With decades of experience in clinical practice, he focuses on understanding the impact of toxins on health and is dedicated to helping patients recover from illnesses that conventional medicine often struggles to address. His bestselling book, "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Other Chronic Environmental Illnesses," provides a comprehensive guide to recognizing, diagnosing, and treating various chronic conditions linked to environmental factors.

Before December, the United Nations aims to have a global treaty in place covering efforts to limit global plastic production and pollution. In a paper in the journal Science, a team of scientists have used machine learning to estimate what happens by 2050 if we do nothing. But they have also found that the problem is solvable, with the right political will, and as marine ecologist Neil Nathan of UCSB points out, with surprisingly little new rules, waste could be reduced by 91%.Machine learning this week has also helped in the creation of Evo, a tool that has created a sort of chat-GPT for the language of life, DNA. Patrick Hsu, of the University of California at Berkeley is very optimistic that the power of this tool both to predict function and one day even design whole organisms is a foundational new approach. Migratory birds navigate vast distances without GPS. It's long been strongly suspected that they use the earth's magnetic field to find their way, but Richard Holland of Bangor University and colleagues have found nuance in the way they do, and publish their findings in Proceedings of the Royal Society B this week. Using electromagnetic cages they have fooled individual warblers into acting as if they were in Russia, whilst actually still being in Austria.Meanwhile, Daniele Sorini, a cosmologist at Durham University has been thinking about dark energy and the possibility of our existence. In a thought experiment wondering what changing the density of dark energy would do to the likelihood of our being here to even think about it. Slightly contrary to what many reason is the fine-tuning of universal constants to allow us, as intelligent observers, to exist, Daniele and colleagues calculate that actually our observed density of dark energy is not the most likely to allow intelligent life. If there are other universes in the multiverse, most observers would think there was much more dark energy than we do. You can read up about it in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, if you are an intelligent observer yourself.Presenter: Roland Pease Producer: Alex Mansfield with Eliane Glaser Production Coordinator: Jana Bennett-Holesworth (Image: Plastic waste issues in Philippines. Credit: Daniel Ceng/Anadolu via Getty Images)

If you are struggling and suffering in silence, or been told by doctor after doctor there's nothing wrong, and it's all in your head, do not give up. Today is an episode of hope. Your mystery symptoms and disease can be cured. There are tests and treatments and doctors like Dr Neil Nathan who exist that can diagnose you, offer real solutions and help you get your health and life back. Dr. Neil Nathan is a renowned expert in the fields of environmental medicine and integrative medicine, specializing in the treatment of complex chronic illnesses. He has authored several influential books, including “Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Other Chronic Environmental Illnesses” and “The New Paradigm for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia.” With over 40 years of clinical experience, Dr. Nathan is dedicated to helping patients recover from multifactorial health issues through a holistic approach.Join us as we explore:The profile of a “sensitive patient”, and why it has become an epidemic.Dr Nathan's discovery of the two big pieces of the mystery disease puzzle.The biological and neurological systems at the core of the trifecta of complex chronic sensitivities.Dr Nathan's preferred treatment techniques for the vagal nerve, limbic system and nervous system.Mold, Lyme and mast cells activation syndrome.Why nervous system sensitivity often begins in the “mouth”.Contact:Website: https://neilnathanmd.comMentions:Product - Truvaga, https://www.truvaga.comProduct - Apollo Neuro, https://madetothrive.co.za/product/apollo-neuro-stress-relief-device/Product - Dynamic Neural Retraining System, https://retrainingthebrain.comProduct - The Gupta Program, https://guptaprogram.comProduct - Primal Trust, https://www.primaltrust.orgPerson - Dr Richard Horowitz, https://lymeconnection.org/Support the showFollow Steve's socials: Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | Twitter | TikTokSupport the show on Patreon:As much as we love doing it, there are costs involved and any contribution will allow us to keep going and keep finding the best guests in the world to share their health expertise with you. I'd be grateful and feel so blessed by your support: https://www.patreon.com/MadeToThriveShowSend me a WhatsApp to +27 64 871 0308. Disclaimer: Please see the link for our disclaimer policy for all of our content: https://madetothrive.co.za/terms-and-conditions-and-privacy-policy/

The Medical Disruptor podcast is back, and we're blowing the lid off the toxic secret that's driving the hidden epidemic of chronic illness. Is mold secretly sabotaging your sanity? Mold toxicity isn't just about musty basements. It's the hidden menace wreaking havoc on your brain, gut, and entire body.  From "unexplained" anxiety to autoimmune flare-ups and cognitive decline, mold's fingerprints are all over our most baffling health crises. In this mind-blowing episode, I sit down with mold mastermind Dr. Neil Nathan to expose the truth about this overlooked culprit.  We're diving deep into why your "mental health" issues might actually be mold colonizing your brain, the shocking link between mold and conditions like POTS that leave doctors scratching their heads, and how mold toxicity steals your vitality, hijacks your potential, and makes you question your own reality. Dr. Nathan isn't just a colleague - he's a true Medical Disruptor whose work has revolutionized how I unmask mold's destruction in my own patients. Here's the truth: Mold toxicity can derail your life, but it doesn't have to define it. Are you ready to stop being a victim of invisible toxins and become the ultimate biohacker of your own health?  Your toxic-free transformation starts now. Don't waste another day feeling dismissed by doctors or defeated by mystery symptoms.  You have more power to detox and heal than you ever imagined - it's time to tap into it. Tune in and arm yourself with the knowledge to reclaim your health from mold's toxic grip.    00:00 Introduction 03:00 Dr. Neil Nathan's Journey to Medicine  06:00 Transition to Mold and Mycotoxins 09:00 Exploring Chronic Pain and Fibromyalgia 12:00 Discovering Mold Toxicity 15:00 Collaborating with Dr. Shoemaker on Mold Treatment 18:00 Mold's Impact on Health and Sensitivity  21:00 Understanding Mast Cell Activation and Vagal Dysfunction 24:00 How Mold and Lyme Disease Are Linked 27:00 Treating Mold Toxicity: Steps and Challenges 30:00 The Role of Sensitization in Mold and Lyme Disease 33:00 Neurological Impact of Mold: Brain Fog and Dementia Risks 36:00 Supporting Sensitive Patients and Available Resources 39:00 Encouraging Patients to Seek Proper Treatment 42:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts   Check us out on social media: drefratlamandre.com/instagram  drefratlamandre.com/facebook  drefratlamandre.com/tiktok

In this week's episode, Dr. Neil Nathan discusses chronic environmental illnesses like mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and chemical sensitivities. He highlights how environmental toxins contribute to these conditions, the challenges in diagnosing them, and the shortcomings of conventional medicine. Dr. Nathan emphasizes the importance of identifying root causes and treating co-infections, sharing success stories from his practice. He also empowers patients to take control of their health and provides resources, including his books Toxic and The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide. Dr. Nathan, with over 40 years of experience, has helped thousands heal from mold toxicity and Lyme disease. If you're someone that has been told you're crazy by a doctor, that nothing is wrong with you, or maybe you have mysterious symptoms that you are desperate to understand, let me tell you - you will gain valuable insight from this interview!

NEW EPISODE!!! CHRONIC ILLNESS, ENVIRONMENTAL EXPOSURES & THE LIMBIC SYSTEM "BRAIN OVER MATTER?" https://youtu.be/WtqkVUNNsFM?si=K5rAWW0r3Y4qKO4G I'm excited to welcome Scott Forsgren, the “Better Health Guy,” as my special guest for this episode! https://www.betterhealthguy.com/ In this episode, we delve into a topic that's close to my heart: the Limbic System and Vagus Nerve. We discuss common modalities and explore potential solutions related to these critical areas. This is a sensitive topic. Many individuals have felt dismissed or labeled as “crazy” and told, “it's all in your head.” If that sounds familiar, know that you're in good hands. Scott and I are here to embrace this conversation and address the part of us that triggers the fight, flight, or freeze response. IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS: 1. Scott's background & mentors in this realm 2. What is the limbic system and what does it influence in the body 3. Conditions that may respond to limbic system retraining 4. How many people might be dealing with limbic system impairment 5. The role of safety in healing 6. Various limbic system retraining tools that Scott has found to be worth exploring: https://retrainingthebrain.com/ https://guptaprogram.com/ https://www.primaltrust.org/ 7. How to choose which limbic system retraining tool to use 8. Meditation and yoga and how these help the limbic system 9. Some misconceptions from your perspective about limbic retraining 10. The right time to start limbic retraining 11. What to expect (slow or fast) regarding results with these programs 12. Limbic system work and Long COVID 13. Passive and active work on the part of patients for Limbic system work 14. The vagus nerve- what it is and how it is different from the limbic system 15. Bob Naviaux's Cell Danger Response and related overlaps 16. Recap of tools for limbic system retraining and for vagal toning 17. Dr. Neil Nathan's Foundational Triad: MCAS, Limbic system and vagus nerve. 18. Some considerations regarding Religion and Spirituality 19. Some considerations regarding extreme mold avoidance 20. Final words. https://iepradio.com/

EVEN MORE about this episode!This episode features Dr. Neil Nathan, a seasoned physician who shares his journey from conventional medicine to holistic healing. Dr. Nathan discusses how intuition and a belief in a higher power can enhance medical practice, blending physical and energetic treatments for a comprehensive approach to healing. Julie's conversation with Dr. Nathan highlights Native American healing traditions, the concept of resonance in attracting patients, and the influence of these practices on modern medicine. Their discussion also delves into chronic illnesses like mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and EMF exposure, emphasizing the importance of addressing root causes rather than just symptoms. Dr. Nathan offers insights into detoxification and the connection between mold toxicity and conditions like Alzheimer's disease. This episode is essential for those interested in understanding and applying a holistic approach to healing!Guest Biography:Neil Nathan, M.D., has over 50 years of medical experience, with board certifications in Family Practice and Pain Management. He is a founding diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and ISEAI. Dr. Nathan is an author of several books, including Healing is Possible and Toxic, which focus on chronic illnesses like chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and mold toxicity. He has also hosted a radio program, The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. Dr. Nathan lectures internationally on mold toxicity and its impact on chronic illness. His recent work includes the book Energetic Diagnosis, which explores the use of intuition and energy devices in medical diagnosis and treatment. He offers consultations through his website and mentors physicians in treating chronic inflammatory illnesses. Dr. Nathan has spent 30 years treating complex medical conditions and is particularly focused on helping patients who have become highly sensitive and toxic.Episode Chapters:(0:00:01) - Healing Modalities(0:12:44) - Native Healing Traditions and Resonance(0:21:13) - Root Cause Healing in Medicine(0:33:06) - Chronic Illness Triggers(0:44:26) - Mold Toxicity and EMFs(0:58:58) - Alternative Approaches to HealingPlease join Julie next week with your question.Thursdays at 8pm ET, 7pm CT, 5pm PT.https://askjulieryanshow.comAnd, please leave a five-star review and subscribe so you can hear all the new episodes.Sponsors & RecommendationsDisclaimer: This show is for informational purposes only. It is not intended to be medical, psychological, financial or legal advice. Please contact a licensed professional. The Ask Julie Ryan show, Julie Ryan, and all parties involved in producing, recording and distributing it assume no responsibility for listener's actions based on any information heard on this or any Ask Julie Ryan shows or podcasts.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this special "Best Of" episode of The Human Upgrade, four leading experts delve into the hidden dangers of mold, environmental toxins, and their profound effects on your health and well-being. Brian Karr, an indoor environmental consultant and co-founder of We Inspect, discusses the impact of mold exposure and offers practical tips for detecting and remediating mold in your home. He highlights how mold can manifest in various symptoms and affect people differently. Michael Rubino, President of HomeCleanse, explores environmental toxins in our homes, highlighting the dangers of pollutants like formaldehyde and VOCs. Learn essential tips for maintaining clean air and creating a healthier living space to protect your health from mold and other toxins. Tune in for expert strategies on identifying and mitigating these risks. Dr. Francesca LeBlanc, a functional medicine expert, explains the connection between mold exposure, hormone imbalances, and weight gain. She shares insights on detoxing from mold and the importance of addressing underlying issues like estrogen dominance and candida. Dr. Neil Nathan, an environmental medicine expert and author of Toxic, explores the effects of mold toxicity on the immune system and provides strategies for protecting yourself from mold and other environmental toxins. CHECK OUT THE FULL EPISODES NOW! Brian Karr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4UcEAZCEw&t=1760s Michael Rubino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFWcuWrEy60&t=73s Dr. Francesca LeBlanc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k3NGd-yfg8&t=1741s Dr. Neil Nathan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOEoQswppNc Timestamps: 00:00:01 - Introduction by Dave Asprey 00:02:08 - Dave's Personal Battle with Toxic Mold 00:03:06 - Understanding Mold with Brian Karr 00:10:40 - History of We Inspect and Mold Detection 00:18:57 - Mold in Rental Properties and Legal Challenges 00:23:17 - Practical Steps for Reducing Mold Exposure 00:35:50 - Dr. Francesca LeBlanc on Mold, Weight Gain, and Hormonal Imbalances 00:55:10 - The Role of Candida and Diet in Mold Recovery 01:00:22 - Dr. Neil Nathan on Mold Toxicity and Immune System Impact Sponsors: Puori | Visit Puori.com/DAVE and use the promo code DAVE for 20% storewide. ZBiotics | Go to Zbiotics.com/Dave for 15% off your first order Resources: Brian Karr's Company: https://yesweinspect.com/ Brian Karr's Instagram: @moldfinders Michael Rubino's Linktree: https://linkin.bio/themichaelrubino/ Michael Rubino's Instagram: @TheMichaelRubino Dr. Francesca LeBlanc's Linktree: https://stan.store/drfrancescaleblanc Dr. LeBlanc's Instagram: @drfrancescaleblanc Dr. Neil Nathan's Books: https://neilnathanmd.com/about-me/ Dr. Neil Nathan's website: https://neilnathanmd.com/ Dave's Linktree: linktr.ee/daveasprey Follow Dave on Instagram: @Dave.Asprey Danger Coffee by Dave Asprey: Danger Coffee Instagram Supplements by Dave Asprey: Shop Upgrade Labs Own an Upgrade Labs: Own an Upgrade LabsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is episode 34 of the Love, Hope, Lyme podcast. Fred Diamond's popular book, "Love, Hope, Lyme: What Family Members, Partners, and Friends Who Love a Chronic Lyme Survivor Need to Know" offers those who love someone with persistent or chronic Lyme ideas and tips to support this beloved person. It also helps Lyme survivors know how to ask for support. On today's episode, Fred interviews Dr. Neil Nathan to discuss his new book "The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide: Top Experts Offer New Insights and Treatments for Environmental Toxins, Lyme Disease, and Emfs." When Fred was first discovering the trauma related to tick-borne diseases, one of the first books he read was Dr. Nathan's classic "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness." It helped him understand how difficult mold allergies can be to treat and how much interplay there is with Lyme disease. Dr. Nathan discussed many of the complications sensitive patients go through in finding treatments to get healthy. Fred digs deep so that Lyme survivors can find some peace and suggestions on how to get treatment, and, as he always does, how those who love and want to support someone they love with Lyme disease can support them. If someone you love has been afflicted with Lyme disease, watch this podcast now. If you have Lyme disease, listen for ways to get the support you need. The e-version of Fred's book is always free for Lyme survivors. Just reach out to Fred on Facebook or LinkedIn. The print copy can be ordered at https://www.amazon.com/Love-Hope-Lyme-Partners-Survivor-ebook/dp/B0B9Q8LX7G/.

Welcome to Episode 212 of Autism Parenting Secrets. We're excited to welcome Dr. Neil Nathan, a renowned family physician with over five decades of experience, to our podcast this week.Dr. Nathan has been a pioneer in bridging conventional and alternative medicine, especially for complex chronic conditions. His influential books, On Hope and Healing and Toxic, have challenged traditional medical boundaries.In his latest book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, Dr. Nathan delves into the challenges faced by those hypersensitive to their environments, offering new methodologies and practical solutions. With insights from 20 guest authors, this episode is packed with valuable information for parents navigating the complexities of autism.The secret this week is...You Can't Heal If You Don't Feel SAFEYou'll Discover:How Integrative Medicine Has More Answers (3:55)Why We Need A New System (8:27)The Problem With Chat Rooms (11:37)The Backstory Of An Incredibly Unique Book (15:40)Why It All Comes Down To SAFETY (19:13)The Key Role Of The Limbic System And Why It's Relevant In ASD (21:16)The Importance Of The Vagal Nerve System For Children And Parents (25:05)A Key Hopeful Message To Consider (25:55)The Causes of Limbic and Vagal Dysfunction, Including Two Big Ones (29:42)Mold Toxicity And Lyme Disease Are More Prevalent Than You Think (38:53)A Great Mycotoxin Test (41:28)A Great Lyme Test (42:56)Where to Find The Right Practitioners (45:38)What Mast Cell Activation Looks Like (47:21)The Trifecta Of Systems That Must Be Addressed Simultaneously (50:18)Ways To Quiet The Limbic and Vagal Systems (53:25)Why EMFs Are A Big Deal (1:06:24)About Our Guest:Neil Nathan, MD, has practiced medicine for over 50 years, with Board Certifications in Family Practice and Pain Management. He is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and ISEAI. Dr. Nathan has authored several books, including Healing is Possible and On Hope and Healing. He hosted the podcast The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today and lectures internationally on mold toxicity. His notable works include Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness. His latest book, The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide, was released in January 2024. Dr. Nathan provides mentorship to around 200 physicians and specializes in treating patients with chronic complex medical illnesses and extreme sensitivities.www.neilnathanmd.comReferences in The Episode:Dr. Robert NaviauxSid BakerDr. Pejman Katiraeiwholistickids.comAutism Parenting Secrets Episode 95, “Mold Is A Bigger Threat Than You Think” with Dr. Pejman KatiraeiRealTime Labs Mycotoxin TestIGeneX Lyme ImmunoBlot TestMedical Academy of Pediatric & Special Needs (MAPS)Kurt Woeller MDPrimal Trust by Cathleen KingAnnie Hopper - The Dynamic Neural Retraining System DNRSAshok Gupta Program Brain RetrainingFrequency Specific MicrocurrentAppoloNeuroDr. Porges Safe & Sound ProtocolOur Polyvagal World: How Safety and Trauma Change Us by Stephen Porges and Seth PorgesThe LENSNon-Tinfoil Guide to EMFs by Nicolas PineaultAutism Parenting Secrets Episode 108, “EMFS Impact Kids More” with Nick PineaultAdditional Resources:Take The Quiz: What's YOUR Top Autism Parenting Blindspot?To learn more about Cass & Len, visit us at www.autismparentingsecrets.comBe sure to follow Cass & Len on InstagramIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with your friends.

In this episode of The Human Upgrade, Dr. Neil Nathan joins to explore the intricate world of toxic mold, Lyme disease, and sensitivity-related illnesses. You'll discover the profound impact of these environmental toxins on your health and the innovative methods for diagnosing and treating them. Learn how mold and Lyme disease can disrupt your body's systems, and get practical strategies for protecting yourself from these hidden hazards. The discussion dives into the importance of the limbic and vagal systems, and how rebooting them can help manage sensitivity and promote healing. Dr. Nathan sheds light on the role of environmental pollution in exacerbating mold issues and offers tips for reducing your exposure to harmful toxins. You'll gain a deeper understanding of how to maintain resilience and enhance your health despite these challenges. Tune in to gain valuable insights and actionable advice on managing sensitivity and reclaiming your health from environmental toxins! Timestamps and Highlights: (00:00:01) Introduction (00:03:03) Mold Rage and Personality Changes (00:05:02) Understanding Mold Toxicity (00:09:04) Symptoms and Misdiagnosis (00:11:46) Environmental Factors and Increased Mold Toxicity (00:15:40) Practical Steps for Protection (00:19:35) Testing and Treating Mold Toxicity (00:25:26) Limbic and Vagal System Retraining (00:29:26) Personal Healing Practices (00:33:31) The Role of Intuition in Healing (00:39:31) Addressing Chronic Illness and Sensitivity (00:45:41) Emotional and Psychological Aspects of Healing (00:50:16) Conclusion Sponsors: Timeline Nutrition | Go to TimelineNutrition.com/Dave to get 10% off your first order. Beam Minerals | Go to BeamMinerals.com/Dave2024 for 20% off your first order Resources: Dr. Neil Nathan's new book “The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide” is out now! Learn more about Dr. Neil Nathan's work: NeilNathanMD.com Dave's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/daveasprey Dave Asprey's Book ‘Smarter Not Harder' is out now: https://daveasprey.com/books Follow Dave on Instagram: @Dave.Asprey Want to join The Human Upgrade Podcast Live? Join Our Upgrade Collective: https://www.ourupgradecollective.com/ Danger Coffee by Dave Asprey: https://www.instagram.com/dangercoffeeofficial/ Supplements by Dave Asprey: https://shopsuppgradelabs.com/ Own an Upgrade Labs: https://ownanupgradelabs.com/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of the Integrarive Lyme Solutions with Karlfeldt, we welcome Dr. Neil Nathan, a prominent expert in the field of mold toxicity, Lyme disease, and chronic illnesses. Dr. Nathan discusses his journey into medicine and shares insights from his extensive 50-year career, including his expertise in integrative holistic medicine. We delve into the challenges of diagnosing complex medical conditions, the importance of addressing mold and Lyme disease early, and the impact of environmental factors such as toxins and EMFs on health. Dr. Nathan also highlights the significance of treating associated conditions like mast cell activation, limbic system dysfunction, and vagal nerve issues. He emphasizes the importance of finding the root cause of illnesses and offers practical advice for those struggling with chronic health issues. The Karlfeldt Center offers the most cutting edge and comprehensive Lyme therapies. To schedule a Free 15-Minute Discovery Call with a Lyme Literate Naturopathic Doctor at The Karlfeldt Center, call 208-338-8902 or reach us at info@TheKarlfeldtCenter.com. _______________________________The Karlfeldt Center offers the most cutting-edge and comprehensive Lyme therapies. To schedule a Free 15-Minute Discovery Call with a Lyme Literate Naturopathic Doctor at The Karlfeldt Center, call 208-338-8902 or email info@TheKarlfeldtCenter.comCheck out Dr. K's Ebook: Breaking Free From Lyme: A Comprehensive Guide to Healing and Recovery here: https://store.thekarlfeldtcenter.com/products/breaking-free-from-lymeUse the code LYMEPODCAST for a 100% off discount!

In this episode of Essential Alchemy, Jodi Cohen interviews Dr. Neil Nathan, a board-certified doctor who has been treating chronically complex medical illnesses for over 30 years. Dr. Nathan discusses his upcoming book, "The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide," which addresses the increasing number of patients who have become unusually sensitive to normal stimuli such as light, sound, touch, food, chemicals, and EMFs. He attributes this sensitivity to the toxicity of our modern world and the fear perpetuated by media, especially in relation to COVID-19. Dr. Nathan explains how the limbic and vagal systems in the body monitor safety and how they can become hypervigilant, leading to a heightened sensitivity to stimuli. Tune in to learn more about: [00:00] - Introduction to Essential Alchemy and Jodi Cohen[01:50] - Introduction to Dr. Neil Nathan and his upcoming book[02:01] - Why patients are becoming more sensitive to normal stimuli[05:54] - The safety response in the body and the role of the vagus nerve, limbic system, and mast cells[10:15] - Recommendations for addressing sensitivity in the limbic and vagal systems and mast cells[14:13] - The impact of anxiety and social anxiety on sensitivity[21:54] - The interplay between the limbic system, vagus nerve, and mast cell activation[22:55] - Ways to treat these three systems simultaneously for improved health. ✪ Neil Natham, M.D. : ⁠https://neilnathanmd.com ❂ Jodi Cohen: Facebook: ⁠Vibrant Blue Oils Discussion Group⁠ | Instagram: @⁠VibrantBlueOils⁠ | YouTube: ⁠Vibrant Blue Oils

In the field of medicine, Neil Nathan is both a Certified Family Physician and an unconventional thinker, practitioner and intuitive healer. He is also a world-renowned Author, Speaker and Educator who makes all the sense, and I loved chatting with him. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why You Should Listen:  In this episode, you will learn about a healing guide to support sensitive patients in restoring health. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Neil Nathan.  Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 50 years.  He has written several books including: "Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses" and "On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks".   He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his eBook "Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment", and then to his best-selling book "Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, and Chronic Environmental Illness".   His 2021 book "Energetic Diagnosis" is a discussion of the value of intuition and energetic devices as an aid to both diagnosis and treatment of medical illness. His new book "The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide" was released in early 2024.  He is currently providing mentorship in the treatment of chronic inflammatory illness to approximately 150 physicians, with Jill Crista, ND.  Key Takeaways: What is the difference between sensitivity and toxicity? What is the limbic, vagal, mast cell triad? What tools can be used to support the limbic system and vagus nerve? How might structure be supported without exogenous collagen supplementation? What are the many roles of Epsom Salt baths in working with sensitive patients? What are some potential triggers of Spiky-Leaky Syndrome? What is a Homeostasis Associated Molecular Pattern (HAMP)? Is urine mycotoxin testing a clinically helpful tool? Are there any tests for exploring fungal colonization? What tools have emerged in the treatment of Lyme disease? Is 5G really a problem when it comes to EMF sensitivity? Does working in the mental/emotional, limbic, and vagal realm support detoxification? Is the concern about oxalates more about dietary exposure or fungal colonization? How might salicylate intolerance be approached? What role do structural issues play in sensitive patients? Can benzodiazepine withdrawal be another contributor in sensitization? What are some of the factors that may impact thiamine? What is the role of RANTES as a marker of inflammation? Can people be allergic to their own hormones? Is carbon monoxide a sensitizing agent? Does treating Bartonella potentially serve as a trigger for secondary porphyria? What interventions may support those dealing with spikeopathies? What are some of the many beneficial properties of ketamine in working with sensitive patients? Connect With My Guest:  http://NeilNathanMD.com Related Resources:  Book: The Sensitive Patient's Healing Guide Interview Date: April 25, 2024 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode200. Additional Information: To learn more, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com. Disclaimer:  The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority. 

As sensitive patients, it can be challenging to navigate the world of healthcare and find the right treatments that work for us. Dr. Neil Nathan shares his expertise on this topic, shedding light on the importance of intuition and the role it plays in our healing journey. During the conversation, Dr. Carnahan and Dr. Nathan explore the significance of listening to our bodies and the signals they give us. They delve into the intricate workings of our limbic system and its impact on our overall well-being. Furthermore, they discuss the vagal nerve's influence on our health and how it affects the chronic illness experience. Key Points ✅ Why conventional medicine ignores the intuition and importance of listening to the patient and how this can transform healing ✅ What is the order of treatment for the highly sensitive patient and how to start treatment with limbic system and vagal nerve. ✅ How to find a practitioner who may help you in the healing process if you are experiencing complex and chronic illness. Related Links PRIMAL TRUST - https://cathleenking.simplero.com/products/143239-Monthly-Membership-PRIMAL-TRUST-Academy?ref=48445-Dr-Jill-Carnahan Gupta Program - https://www.guptaprogram.com/aff/202/ DNRS program - https://www.dnrsonline.com/?wpam_id=92 Dr. Neil Nathan, MD Neil Nathan, MD has been practicing medicine for 48 years, and has been Board Certified in Family Practice and Pain Management and is a Founding Diplomate of the American Board of Integrative Holistic Medicine and a Founding Diplomate of ISEAI. He has written several books, including Healing is Possible: New Hope for Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Persistent Pain, and Other Chronic Illnesses and On Hope and Healing: For Those Who Have Fallen Through the Medical Cracks. He has hosted an internationally syndicated radio program/podcast on Voice America called The Cutting Edge of Health and Wellness Today. He has been working to bring an awareness that mold toxicity is a major contributing factor for patients with chronic illness and lectures internationally on this subject which led to the publication of his book, Mold and Mycotoxins: Current Evaluation and Treatment, 2016 and now to his most recent book Toxic: Heal Your Body from Mold Toxicity, Lyme Disease, Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and Chronic Environmental Illness.

Welcome back to another episode of The Wellfuel Podcast! This week, we're talking all about mold on our social media feeds, and continuing that topic here on the podcast. I'm diving into how we at ISN diagnose and treat mold toxicity, and I can't wait for you to give this episode a listen! For more information on mold toxicity, the book I recommend in this episode is called Toxic, by Neil Nathan. -------------------------- Join us next week for the next episode of The Wellfuel Podcast! Be sure to like, share and subscribe to The Wellfuel Podcast for more great nutritional content in the future! You can learn more about Isabel Smith Nutrition by following us on Instagram: ⁠@isabelsmithnutrition To good health, Isabel Smith, MS, RD, CDN

In this incredibly raw and heartfelt episode, I dive deep into the transformative power of sharing my authentic journey—both the highs and lows.    From grappling with self-doubt as a business coach sharing personal health challenges to receiving a life-changing testimonial from a follower, today's episode is all about the power of vulnerability and authenticity.    I reflect on the critical role of nervous system regulation, especially as an entrepreneur, and the absolute necessity of a strong belief system, inspired by lessons learned from Dr. Neil Nathan.    This is more than just a podcast episode; it's a celebration of the positive impact we can make when we show up as our true selves.    If you've ever questioned your purpose or felt caught in the cycle of self-doubt, this is the episode for you.    Let's walk this transformative path together, towards health, fulfillment, and next-level greatness.   Let's do this!   Barbie Take advantage of this special pricing for a limited time.  Athena: The Art of Business Loved this episode?! Your review helps this show grow (and it's good Karma!) Send me a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/BarbieKalev   Connect with me: Instagram: @Barbie.Kalev Keep the party going! Join my FB Group: THE MAGNETIC PORTAL with Dr. Barbie Kalev  If you'd like to join my network marketing team with me as your sponsor, shoot me a message on IG, FB, or barbiekalev@gmail.com

Why You Should Listen:  In this episode, you will learn about the various contributors to PANDAS and PANS and about solutions to support kids with these challenging conditions. About My Guest: My guest for this episode is Dr. Jill Crista.  Jill Crista, ND earned her Naturopathic Doctor Degree with Honors from the National University of Naturopathic Medicine in Portland, Oregon in 2003.  In 2012, Dr. Jill completed the Physician Training Program with the International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society.   She was the owner, director, and practicing member of two integrative clinics offering naturopathic medicine, integrative medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic, physical therapy, craniosacral therapy, and massage. It was there that she witnessed the efficacy and synergy of a team approach to patient care.  As a peer-reviewed published author, Dr. Jill is now focusing on research, teaching, and writing, specializing in neuroinflammatory conditions such as mold sickness, brain injury, and PANDAS and PANS.  She serves on the board of the Wisconsin Naturopathic Doctors Association and was President for 6 years. She also worked on the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians committee for licensure where she gained experience in seeking licensure for naturopathic doctors in Wisconsin and increasing access to naturopathic healthcare nationally.  Along with Dr. Neil Nathan, Dr. Jill teaches practitioners in an ongoing mentorship with a focus on how to treat complex, chronic illnesses.  She is the author of the 2018 book "Break the Mold: 5 Tools to Conquer Mold and Take Back Your Health" and the 2022 book "A Light in the Dark for PANDAS & PANS". Key Takeaways: What are some of the key presentations of PANDAS and PANS? What is the overlap of PANDAS and PANS with chronic infections and environmental toxicants? How much of these conditions is about the bug as compared to the loss of immune tolerance? How key is addressing the gut microbiome in recovering health for these kids? What are some tools to support the autonomic nervous system, vagus nerve, and limbic system? How commonly does MCAS and histamine intolerance play a role? Can these conditions be treated naturally or is there a place for pharmaceuticals? What microbes may be triggers for PANS? In those with chronic immune deficiency, what tools might be used to fortify the immune system? Does the external environment play a role? What diagnostic tests can be used to more fully paint the picture of PANDAS and PANS? What are the Core 4 in moving from darkness to light in PANDAS and PANS? What tools might be used to "tame the flame", "beat the bugs", "regulate immunity", and "guard the gates"? Connect With My Guest: http://DrCrista.com Related Resources: Book: A Light in the Dark for PANDAS and PANS Interview Date: November 14, 2022 Transcript: To review a transcript of this show, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com/Episode175. Additional Information: To learn more, visit https://BetterHealthGuy.com. Disclaimer:  The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority.