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Recorded live at AICPA ENGAGE 2026, this episode of the JofA podcast explores the reasons that mindset and leadership may be even more important than technology adoption as finance and accounting professionals navigate an era of nonstop transformation. Joel Morris, a vice president at Wolters Kluwer, and Tom Hood, CPA/CITP, CGMA, executive vice president–Business Growth & Engagement at the AICPA, discuss what separates future-ready organizations from those struggling to keep pace, focuses on AI, workforce development, and strategic thinking. Morris and Hood also explore the human skills, trust, and risk management practices needed to help organizations adapt, innovate, and remain relevant in a rapidly changing profession. One key component mentioned in the conversation is the Rise2040 report and initiative. What you'll learn from this episode: How each speaker defines the "perpetual transformation state." Why Hood says mindset—not technology—may be the biggest factor in future readiness. How Morris distinguishes organizations who are getting "ahead of the wave" from those that say they're too busy to devote time to thinking about growth methodologies. What Morris and Hood see as the biggest barriers to successful AI adoption. The reasons that human skills are becoming more important, not less, in an AI-powered profession. How trust can help accountants and finance professionals navigate ongoing transformation and why Morris calls trust "that through-line into everything that you do."

Recorded live at AICPA ENGAGE 2026, this episode of the JofA podcast explores the reasons that mindset and leadership may be even more important than technology adoption as finance and accounting professionals navigate an era of nonstop transformation. Joel Morris, a vice president at Wolters Kluwer, and Tom Hood, CPA/CITP, CGMA, executive vice president–Business Growth & Engagement at the AICPA, discuss what separates future-ready organizations from those struggling to keep pace, focuses on AI, workforce development, and strategic thinking. Morris and Hood also explore the human skills, trust, and risk management practices needed to help organizations adapt, innovate, and remain relevant in a rapidly changing profession. One key component mentioned in the conversation is the Rise2040 report and initiative. What you'll learn from this episode: How each speaker defines the "perpetual transformation state." Why Hood says mindset—not technology—may be the biggest factor in future readiness. How Morris distinguishes organizations who are getting "ahead of the wave" from those that say they're too busy to devote time to thinking about growth methodologies. What Morris and Hood see as the biggest barriers to successful AI adoption. The reasons that human skills are becoming more important, not less, in an AI-powered profession. How trust can help accountants and finance professionals navigate ongoing transformation and why Morris calls trust "that through-line into everything that you do."

Recorded at ENGAGE in Las Vegas, this episode of the JofA podcast features Carl Mayes, CPA, the AICPA's vice president–Ethics & Firm Quality, discussing the Profession Ready Initiative and the evolving skills employers expect from current and aspiring CPAs.  Mayes shares insights from discussions with more than 1,000 members, including concerns about foundational accounting skills, communication abilities, and maintaining professional skepticism in an AI-driven environment.  Mayes, who was also on the podcast in February, reflects in this episode on the profession's responsibility to prepare the next generation of CPAs and the energizing role events such as ENGAGE play in shaping new ideas across the profession. One other resource related to the conversation: the monthly A&A Focus series. What you'll learn from this episode: An early-career lesson for Mayes that underscored CPAs serving as "gatekeepers for the capital markets." What early stages of the Profession Ready Initiative have unearthed after conversations with more than 1,000 accounting professionals. Why communication skills, critical thinking, and skepticism are becoming more important in the age of AI. Why Mayes said, "Active listeners make better leaders." How employers and educators are working to close competency gaps for CPAs. What ENGAGE means to accounting professionals looking for new ideas, stronger connections, and practical innovation.

Halie Creps, CPA, chair of the AICPA Auditing Standards Board, joined the JofA podcast to  discuss the ASB's refreshed 2026–2030 strategic plan and its focus on responsiveness, collaboration, and technology. She also explained why taking part in AICPA committees and boards is important to her and mentioned the link that members can visit to explore volunteer opportunities.  Creps highlighted current projects, including proposed updates to attestation standards, sustainability assurance, confirmations, and fraud. She also explained how practitioner feedback and international standard‑setting influence the board's work. What you'll learn from this episode: Why Creps said that serving on the Auditing Standards Board helps make her a better auditor. A mention of the numerous types of volunteer opportunities for members. How the ASB's 2026–2030 strategic plan reflects stakeholder feedback. What proposed changes to attestation standards could mean for practitioners. How sustainability assurance fits into the ASB's broader standards framework. The status of and comment deadlines for exposure drafts on confirmations and fraud. How technology and global collaboration are shaping future audit standards.

System and Organization Controls (SOC) reports are examinations performed by CPAs in accordance with the AICPA's Statements on Standards for Attestation Engagements to evaluate the controls over customer data that service organizations such as cloud providers or payroll processors have in place. SOC reports provide independent assurance to the service organization's customers, aka user entities, that those controls are suitably designed and operating effectively. The entrance of technology vendors into the realm of SOC reporting has created some efficiencies, but it also has led to promises of "fast and easy" SOC reports that have raised credibility concerns in the marketplace.  In this episode of the Journal of Accountancy podcast, Amy Pawlicki, the AICPA's vice president–Assurance & Advisory Innovation, discusses recent developments affecting SOC engagements. The conversation also highlights what CPAs, service organizations, and report users should watch for to protect trust in SOC reporting. Other resources mentioned in the episode include: A JofA article on ethics risks related to SOC tool providers. The AICPA's SOC landing page. Ethics Staff Insights: Business Arrangements With SOC Tool Providers. What you'll learn from this episode: What SOC reporting is — and why a SOC 2 report is not a certification. How a technology trend is threatening SOC credibility. The ethical risks related to SOC reporting tool vendors. The peer review and the AICPA Code of Professional Conduct requirements for CPAs performing SOC work. Where to find AICPA resources for firms, service organizations, and users.

Younger generations are rethinking retirement — considering more flexibility and well-timed breaks over a traditional model of holding a job until a certain age and then stopping work.  Kelley Long, CPA/PFS, joined the Journal of Accountancy podcast to discuss how modern financial planning is changing. She also explains how health savings accounts can support career flexibility and reduce reliance on employer‑sponsored health insurance later in life. Long will explore these topics further in June at AICPA ENGAGE, the profession's biggest conference. She is presenting sessions focused on retirement and on health care financial literacy on June 10 in Las Vegas. What you'll learn from this episode: A preview of Kelley Long's ENGAGE sessions and a related JofA article. The factors that are leading younger generations to approach retirement differently. How "mini‑retirements" can fit into long‑term career and financial planning. How Long's trip to South America crystallized her views on timing and retirement. The role of social connections in cognitive health. Some ways that health savings accounts can support career changes or time off. How potentially being overinsured can affect financial planning.

Small CPA firms play a critical role in the accounting profession, and new tools are helping them compete, innovate, and grow. In this episode of the JofA podcast, Stephanie Otero, CPA, the AICPA's vice president–Small Firm Advocate, discusses why small firms matter, how AI and automation are leveling the playing field, and where innovation thrives in smaller practices. She references real-world examples and previews the PCPS Small Firm Success Series, a free, CPE-eligible webcast series for AICPA members. The conversation also looks ahead to ENGAGE in Las Vegas and the ways AICPA resources and communities help small firm practitioners realize they do not have to go it alone. Related resources: Private Companies Practice Section firm membership. Resources for small firms. Transforming Your Business Model resources. April 20 PCPS Overview Session. Article on small firms' use of AI and automation. What you'll learn from this episode: The importance of small CPA firms to the profession and why Otero is passionate about advocating for such firms. How AI and automation can help small firms compete with larger organizations. Practical examples of practitioners using technology to build capacity. AICPA resources can help small firm leaders connect and grow.

Sarah Ference, CPA, a risk control director at CNA, joins the Journal of Accountancy podcast to discuss recent topics of the JofA's Professional Liability Spotlight column.  The conversation covers lessons learned from claims involving bankrupt clients, the importance of strong and consistent documentation, and the particular risks associated with serving high-net-worth or high-profile clients.  The episode also highlights the April column on writing effective engagement letters for client advisory services. The articles discussed in the episode: January: "Don't Let a Bankrupt Client Bankrupt You." February: "Tell a Story With Your Documentation." March: "Luxury Liabilities: Serving High-Net-Worth Clients." April: "Tips for Writing CAS Engagement Letters." What you'll learn from this episode: The reasons CPA firms can be drawn into litigation when clients face bankruptcy. How strong client acceptance and continuance practices can help firms identify and manage higher‑risk engagements before problems arise. Why documentation acts as a firm's voice in a professional liability claim — and how gaps or inconsistencies can weaken defense of a claim. Why Ference has been told that "celebrities and CPA firms don't mix." What makes high‑net‑worth and celebrity clients higher risk and why firms should avoid relaxing standard risk management protocols for them. Why for engagement letters related to CAS, Ference said: "The devil is really in the details of that engagement letter."

Two AICPA tax experts from the Washington, D.C., office joined the JofA podcast to discuss a recent Government Accountability Office report on paid tax return preparers and why its findings matter during a busy filing season. Melanie Lauridsen, vice president–Tax Policy & Advocacy, and Todd Sloves, director–Congressional & Political Affairs, break down bipartisan legislation in Congress — including the TAS Act — and explain how its provisions could strengthen oversight and modernize IRS processes. The conversation also highlights the SAFE Act and its aim to simplify the task of filing extensions for taxpayers and practitioners.  The Q&A also outlines where broad consensus exists in the tax community and why this moment could be pivotal for long‑awaited tax administration reforms. What you'll learn from this episode: What the statistics in a GAO report on paid tax return preparers show. How minimum professional standards could strengthen IRS oversight, and why the AICPA supports establishing competency and regulatory guardrails for all preparers. Provisions in the TAS Act recently introduced in the Senate, including reforms shaped by bipartisan work and those aimed at improving taxpayer service. Lauridsen's explanation of how the SAFE Act would simplify filing extensions, reducing the need for complex estimates. A reminder of the particulars of the "mailbox rule." The factors Sloves cites in his belief that the discussed legislation has a path to passage.

Early this month, the AICPA launched its Profession Ready Initiative. In this episode of the JofA podcast, Carl Mayes, CPA, the AICPA's vice president–CPA Candidate Quality and Competency, explained more about the initiative and why a rapidly changing workplace demands new skills from emerging and early-career CPAs.  He discussed how automation, AI, and offshoring are reshaping entry-level work — and how Rise2040 research is informing the initiative.  Listeners will learn how to get involved, what's planned for ENGAGE, and how the effort benefits both early-career professionals and experienced CPAs. What you'll learn from this episode: Why the AICPA launched the Profession Ready Initiative. How Rise2040 research informed the approach to improving entry-level CPA skills. The ways automation, AI, and offshoring are reshaping the first years of CPA careers — and what new competencies employers say they need as a result. The initiative's multifaceted approach, including research, new learning solutions, academic collaboration, and state-level engagement. Ways that CPAs, educators, and firms can participate. How the effort will benefit both early-career professionals and experienced CPAs.

A new episode of the JofA podcast breaks down the AICPA's updated criteria for stablecoin controls, explaining what issuers and practitioners need to know as regulatory expectations evolve. This episode explores how revised AICPA stablecoin criteria support more consistent reporting, disclosure, and control assessments across a rapidly developing digital asset landscape. What you'll learn from this episode: Why the AICPA developed updated criteria for stablecoin controls and how they complement existing presentation and disclosure criteria. How the criteria help issuers and auditors evaluate controls over tokens in circulation and the related reserve assets. How the guidance aligns with regulation, including federal guidelines in the GENIUS Act. Who can use the criteria and how practitioners can apply them in assurance engagements involving stablecoins. What work the AICPA Attestation Subgroup is planning for digital asset-related controls and auditing guidance.

On this episode of the JofA podcast, an AICPA executive and regular guest discussed trends from discussions with numerous finance professionals, delving into how AI and hybrid work might affect accounting this year and beyond. "Now we're going to be talking about managing AI agents in finance and accounting," Tom Hood, CPA/CITP, CGMA, said. "That's going to be a whole different world, and it's going to be exponential in what we can do with it." Hood, the AICPA's executive vice president–Business Engagement and Growth, also explained why CFOs are cautiously optimistic about growth and how the Rise2040 project is helping the profession prepare for long-term change. What you'll learn from this episode: How AI is shifting from simple productivity tools to powerful finance agents — and what that means for accounting professionals. Practical strategies for making hybrid work more effective, including purposeful in-office collaboration. Why CFOs and finance leaders are cautiously optimistic about growth in 2026 despite economic uncertainty. How anticipatory thinking and hard-trend analysis can help accountants prepare for long-term change and disruption. Why trust and integrity remain core accounting values.

Samantha Bowling, CPA, CGMA, managing partner of GWCPA, shares how her firm eliminated busy season, limited hours, and improved morale while still meeting client needs. She also explained how thoughtful use of AI can support advisory services, boost efficiency, and help small firms get "unstuck." This episode of the JofA podcast was recorded at Digital CPA in National Harbor, Md., in December 2025. What you'll learn from this episode: The steps Bowling's firm took to eliminate traditional busy season. How productivity and morale were affected by limiting hours and weekend work. The value the firm has found in "Foresight Fridays." Practical ways AI tools can speed tax research while managing regulatory concerns. How custom AI bots can support internal efficiency. Why clearer communication and accountability helped the firm solve problems it didn't know it had.

Sarah Ference, CPA, an author of the JofA's Professional Liability Spotlight column, returns to the JofA podcast to discuss recent column topics and the advice CPAs can gain from them. In particular, Ference details data security preparedness, the value of engagement letters for tax-compliance services, common audit claims and defenses, and more. Editor's note: This episode is the JofA podcast's last until Jan. 8. n  October: Are You Prepared for the Cost of a Data Security Incident? n  November: Blocking and Tackling: Engagement Letters for Tax Compliance Services n  December: Common Audit Claims and Defenses What you'll learn from this episode: Advice for CPA firms to guard against data security incidents. The ways engagement letters can prevent costly client disputes. The factors that often make audit claims the most expensive type of claims for firms. How to protect your firm when a client faces bankruptcy.

Melanie Lauridsen, the AICPA's vice president–Tax Policy & Advocacy, joined the JofA podcast on Tuesday from the Digital CPA Conference, offering context on the most recent government shutdown and on how a potential shutdown early in 2026 could affect IRS services. The interview was conducted one day after the IRS released guidance for health savings accounts. Guidance related to H.R. 1, P.L. 119-21, the law commonly known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, was also part of the conversation. In the Q&A, Lauridsen touched on the AICPA's areas of advocacy focus for the new year and why 2025 and 2026 are big tax years. Resources: n  The October discussion with Lauridsen n  The January discussion with Lauridsen What you'll learn from this episode: Lauridsen's analysis of IRS guidance on new tax provisions in H.R. 1. The impact of the 43-day government shutdown on IRS operations. Concerns about taxpayer service and staffing as the filing season approaches. AICPA advocacy priorities for the year ahead.

What's the view of finance executives about the U.S. economy and their own businesses? And what's the latest from the IRS on new Trump accounts? Find out more in this quick-hitting episode that summarizes several topics, including the December digital edition of the magazine. What you'll learn from this episode: A summary of CPA decision-makers' sentiment about the economy and their own businesses. The planned publication schedule for JofA podcast episodes in December and early January. A mention of recent IRS news in the JofA. The future-focused look at the profession and other content in the JofA's December digital edition.

In this Journal of Accountancy branded podcast episode, Clint Costa, CPA, J.D., LL.M., a senior wealth strategist at Choreo, talks with Matt Gotlin, Choreo's chief investment officer, on trends in investment management and tips for CPAs to advise clients.

This episode of the JofA podcast explores Accounting Opportunities Experience month, a growing nationwide program to inspire students to pursue accounting careers.   Liz Burkhalter, the AICPA's vice president–CPA Pipeline, shares how CPAs and volunteers are working to reach 50,000 students through classroom visits and events. She also mentioned resources that can help listeners who want to volunteer. n  Specific CPA Pipeline resources for student outreach n  This Way To CPA home page n  Burkhalter's June appearance on the JofA podcast n  The Next Stop: CPA podcast Scott Spiegel, CPA/CITP, CGMA, the chief operating officer of the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants, discusses his return to Rutgers University and why real-world stories can expose students to the diverse opportunities in the profession.  What you'll learn from this episode: The history and growth of Accounting Opportunities Experience month. Burkhalter's summary of participation numbers last year and goals for this year. Resources for accountants interested in speaking to students. Spiegel's motivation for making campus visits. The common questions and misconceptions he hears when talking to students. The importance of in-person outreach and storytelling.

Andrea Millar, CPA/PFS, thought she knew what really mattered. Getting good grades in school and going above and beyond at work were part of her being. But she came to the realization that work was consuming her life, at the expense of other things she cared about. Millar wrote about that experience, and some of the changes she made to create a more fulfilling life, in a recent JofA article. She also joined the JofA podcast to discuss the topic. What you'll learn from this episode: An explanation of how work can "unconsciously" take over our lives. Understanding the "default state" of being and how it can explain why we might overwork. How a shift to the "experiencing stage" allows us to align time and energy differently. Why Millar stresses self-awareness as an important first step of changing habits. The award that Millar's article won in a recent media and publishing competition.

“You cannot avoid AI” — but you can and should continue to experiment with it. That's one key message from consultant and keynote speaker Pascal Finette, who returned to the JofA podcast to discuss how artificial intelligence (AI) adoption has grown and how the profession is dealing with rapid changes and uncertainty. The conversation revisits topics Finette discussed in 2021 and 2022, and it looks ahead to the Digital CPA Conference, Dec. 7–10 in National Harbor, Md. Resources Early 2022 JofA episode (recorded in December 2021). Early 2023 JofA episode (recorded in December 2022). CPA.com's AI landing page. What you'll learn from this episode: The accelerated pace of AI adoption between December 2023 and December 2024. The role of curiosity and experimentation in embracing new technology. The best-of-both-worlds approach some companies are taking as it relates to hybrid work. An explanation of the World Uncertainty Index and how it is now higher than pandemic-era levels. What to expect from the Digital CPA Conference.

Jimmy Robinson, CPA, CGMA, the national chair of the AICPA Dealership Conference, and his co-presenter and co-worker Jesse Stopnitzky joined the JofA podcast to preview discussion points of their conference session later this month. Their expertise is industry-specific, but some of the topics are applicable to a broader audience. Robinson, a former dealership CFO, shared the key traits of strong finance leadership, and Stopnitzky offered advice for better succession planning. What you'll learn from this episode: The aspect of M&A deals that is, to Stopnitzky, more art than science. How merger activity has changed since the COVID-19 pandemic. Robinson's list of the key traits of strong finance leaders. Why succession planning involves far more than naming a successor. Disruptive events and key shifts in the automotive industry.

Sarah Ference, CPA, an author of the JofA's Professional Liability Spotlight column, returns to the JofA podcast to discuss recent column topics and the advice CPAs can gain from them. In particular, Ference details some of the risks for CPA firms engaging in mergers and acquisitions, the subject of a recent two-part series. The articles discussed in this episode are: n  June: “Form 1065: Pay Attention or Pay Up.” n  July: “Professional Liability Risk Stemming From CPA Firm Acquisitions: Part 1.” n  August: “Professional Liability Risk Stemming From CPA Firm Acquisitions: Part 2.” n  September: “Start Risk Management With Employee Onboarding.” What you'll learn from this episode: Why CPA firms should pay close attention to recent changes in tax compliance for partnerships. A summary of the two-part article on professional liability risk related to CPA firm acquisitions. The importance of cultural alignment in firm acquisitions. What “tail coverage” is and why it's essential for post-transaction protection. How a strong onboarding process can serve to mitigate some risks for firms — and why that topic is timely this month.

In her professional career, Annette Nellen, Esq., CPA, CGMA, cannot recall a time when there was more misinformation in the realm of taxes than today, as practitioners wade through H.R. 1, P.L. 119-21, commonly known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. She believes an overreliance on artificial intelligence tools in analyzing the budget law is one reason. “You still have to review it,” said Nellen, a past chair of the AICPA Tax Executive Committee. “These AI tools — they're tools. We're still the thinkers. We're the responsible party involved here.” In this JofA podcast episode, Nellen mentioned several provisions of note in H.R. 1, including those where guidance is still needed. She also mentioned the value of the National Tax Conference in November — where new tax provisions will be a central topic in sessions and individual conversations. What you'll learn from this episode: ·     Some previously temporary tax provisions that are now permanent. ·     New tax provisions of note to Nellen. ·     A selection of provisions for which guidance or technical corrections may be needed. ·     IRS rulings and tax-related court cases Nellen has been following. ·    The response of one website creator when Nellen told the creator that some dot-gov sites are not properly updated.

Sentiment about the U.S. economy improved slightly — but not nearly enough to be considered a positive outlook — in the latest quarterly Business and Industry Economic Outlook Survey by the AICPA and CIMA. For a breakdown of the results, the JofA podcast welcomed back Ken Witt, CPA, CGMA, associate director–Management Accounting Research & Development. He discusses finance decision-makers' views on tariffs and inflation and the 12-month projections for revenue and profit. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         The “softening” related to domestic economic conditions — and why that's not enough to overcome mainly negative sentiment. ·         The percentage of executives who foresee a recession this year or next. ·         Finance leaders' approaches in response to tariffs. ·         The top challenges beyond inflation facing survey respondents. ·         How respondents feel about the state of the global economy.

“Maybe I never will change the whole world. But every day, I can change my world.” Those are the words of profession leader Lindsay Stevenson, CPA, CGMA. She's back on the JofA podcast, this time in person from her house in South Dakota. Stevenson discussed technology adoption, how her firm approaches remote work, and why keeping a journal at least for part of the year is important to her. Stevenson, chief transformation officer at the firm BPM, also addressed how she views fear as it relates to career moves — and how she thought about that differently in a 2019 conversation. What you'll learn from this episode: The reason her firm has geographical regions and a virtual region. Why unplugging is difficult but necessary for Stevenson. Why she likes an at-home vacation more than a big trip. Her approach to overcoming fear and how that approach has changed in the past six years. AI: its danger, its potential, and how she is using it. The gratitude-based journaling practice she recommends.

Jen Wilson admittedly loves her work. As partner and co-founder at ConvergenceCoaching LLC, she's on the road often, advising accounting firms and profession leaders. Sometimes, that travel and love of work can give her colleagues cause for concern. “It troubles them if they can't see me unplug,” Wilson said. This episode of the JofA podcast, the second of a three-episode Midwest series focusing on summer travel, features Wilson talking about the value of time away. It was recorded in person, at her house in Bellevue, Neb. Wilson discussed the benefits of a two-week, end-of-year closure and why despite understanding the importance of a refresh, she sometimes takes work with her on vacation. Additionally, as the independent facilitator for the National Pipeline Advisory Group (NPAG), Wilson is plugged in to the talent issues facing the profession. She provided an update on where things stand with accounting talent with 2026 about four months away. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         Wilson's background as a longtime resident of Nebraska. ·         The reasons she travels often for work in the summer. ·         Why Wilson sometimes takes work with her on vacation – and her family's reaction to that decision. ·         The benefits of an extended, full-company closure. ·         Her assessment of the accounting talent pipeline. ·         The meaning she finds in the quote, “Your direction is more important than your speed.”

The podcast is taking a break from full episode posting this week. Listen to previous episodes by visiting the podcast homepage, or find the show on the podcast app of your choice. Here's a brief explanation from host Neil Amato about what's to come on the show later in the summer.

Melanie Lauridsen, the AICPA's vice president–Tax Policy & Advocacy, joined the JofA podcast early Wednesday to provide context on the fast-moving budget bill that was approved by the Senate on Tuesday and is being discussed in the House today.   Lauridsen detailed some tax-related priorities of the AICPA and state societies. She also explained the aspects of the Senate bill that are most likely to face opposition in the House.   On a topic separate from the budget bill, Lauridsen summarized the key points of the national taxpayer advocate's midyear report to Congress. In a May JofA episode, Lauridsen explained why certain provisions were being prioritized by the AICPA. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         The latest on the Senate version of the massive budget bill, H.R. 1, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. ·         Lauridsen's thoughts on the bill being approved by the House for the president's signature by the July 4th holiday. ·         What tax-specific provisions from the Senate-approved version of the bill are most likely to be examined by the House. ·         Highlights of the national taxpayer advocate's midyear report to Congress.

In this Journal of Accountancy branded podcast, hosted by Clint Costa, CPA, J.D., LL.M., a senior wealth strategist at Choreo, experts discuss how to help clients, especially high-net-worth ones, navigate growing and changing challenges in seeking proper insurance coverage.

Jody Grunden, CPA, stands out for more than his brightly colored Hawaiian shirts at accounting conferences and events. Grunden was one of the first firm leaders to embrace remote work, and he remains a proponent of it. His firm also was one of the first to offer outsourced CFO services. In this JofA podcast episode, Grunden reflects on his firm's growth, explains how cultures can mesh during a merger, and predicts where the future lies for CPAs. Hint: It's not in delivering financial statements to clients. In an earlier JofA interview, Grunden discussed not feeling fear when trying something new and explained why Monday is his favorite day of the week. What you'll learn from this episode: · The evolution of outsourced CFO service offerings. · Why Grunden says remote work "is the way to go." · How off-site retreats helped grow postmerger culture. · What "remaining independent" means to Grunden. · The future of client advisory services. · Why a client's "graduation" should be celebrated.

Jody Grunden, CPA, stands out for more than his brightly colored Hawaiian shirts at accounting conferences and events. Grunden was one of the first firm leaders to embrace remote work, and he remains a proponent of it. His firm also was one of the first to offer outsourced CFO services. In this JofA podcast episode, Grunden reflects on his firm's growth, explains how cultures can mesh during a merger, and predicts where the future lies for CPAs. Hint: It's not in delivering financial statements to clients. In an earlier JofA interview, Grunden discussed not feeling fear when trying something new and explained why Monday is his favorite day of the week. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         The evolution of outsourced CFO service offerings. ·         Why Grunden says remote work “is the way to go.” ·         How off-site retreats helped grow postmerger culture. ·         What “remaining independent” means to Grunden. ·         The future of client advisory services. ·         Why a client's “graduation” should be celebrated.

One popular discussion topic at AICPA & CIMA ENGAGE 25 is the accounting talent pipeline. Liz Burkhalter, the AICPA's director—CPA Pipeline, is taking part in those conversations. On this episode of the JofA podcast, Burkhalter shared encouraging news related to the pipeline and reminded CPAs of how using their “circle of influence” can help to grow the profession. Related resources: n  National Pipeline Advisory Group (NPAG) report with recommendations n  JofA article on announcement of the Pipeline Pledge n  NPAG Pipeline Pledge landing page n  This Way to CPA landing page n  Next Stop: CPA podcast home page n  AICPA Student YouTube channel What you'll learn from this episode: ·         Two hot topics at ENGAGE related to accounting talent, according to Burkhalter. ·         The link between artificial intelligence and more attractive accounting opportunities ·         “Exciting” news related to student enrollment in accounting. ·         The reminder that established accountants can play a key role in helping address talent issues. ·         A summary of resources to assist members who want to get involved.

Sentiment about the U.S. economy and CPA decision-makers' organizations continues to decline in 2025. Second-quarter results released Thursday by the AICPA and CIMA show a rising percentage of pessimists and more concern about the affects of tariffs. To analyze the results further, the JofA podcast welcomed back Ken Witt, CPA, CGMA, associate director–Management Accounting Research & Development. In last quarter's Economic Outlook Survey, half of respondents were optimistic about their company's outlook for the next year. This quarter, that percentage dropped to 37% — and it's not the only area in which there is a decline. Related resources: n  JofA article on how finance leaders are countering tariff volatility. n  The AICPA and CIMA's tariff resource center. n  The previous quarter's podcast discussion with Witt. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         The declines in domestic economic sentiment and own-company optimism. ·         Where optimism about the global economy stands. ·         Changes in the list of top challenges facing CPA decision-makers. ·         The “big topic” in this quarter's survey. ·         An assessment of the impact of tariffs on respondents' business planning. ·         A summary of respondents' 12-month projections for revenue, profits, and spending.

Note: This episode was recorded on Wednesday, May 21, 2025, prior to the House of Representatives vote early Thursday morning May 22, 2025 — 215 in favor, 214 opposed, 1 voting present. See this Journal of Accountancy (JofA) article for updates on the bill that occurred overnight prior to the vote. In this joint episode with the JofA podcast, host Neil Amato discusses with Melanie Lauridsen, Vice President of Tax Policy & Advocacy for the AICPA, the AICPA's perspective on several aspects of the budget bill that was voted and approve by the House of Representatives in the early morning hours of May 22, 2025.   What you'll learn from this episode: ·       An explanation of the pass-through entity tax (PTET) state and local tax (SALT) deduction ·       Some of the AICPA “wins” in the legislation ·       The top concern from a survey of members just after tax filing season ·       The definition of “fractures” AICPA resources 2025 Tax Reform Advocacy  — AICPA tax advocacy efforts on current developments on the tax changes that Congress is considering in 2025, including the expiring provisions of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 (TCJA). Planning for tax changes and tax reform — CPAs need to not only brace for tax law changes such as the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) and expiring provisions but also be proactive in planning for them. FAQs on Tax Reform via Budget Reconciliation — Tax reform FAQs that explain the budget reconciliation process, legislative timing, key issues and practical tips for CPAs.   Tax Section news and member FAQ — Get the latest tax news, a digest of key tax topics and commonly asked questions about resources and benefits.

This week's episode is a mix of CPA-centric news and a Q&A with a leader in the profession. First is a summary of the House Ways and Means Committee's tax bill, the AICPA's reaction to some of its provisions, and an update on paths to CPA licensure. Danielle Supkis Cheek, CPA, is the guest on the main segment, discussing how accountants can avoid head-spinning dizziness when it comes to artificial intelligence (AI) — and why the profession is well suited for technology adoption. Supkis Cheek, senior vice president–AI, Analytics and Assurance at Caseware, also discusses how organizations can use AI to scale operations. Finally, citing a set of criteria from Digital CPA speaker — and JofA podcast guest — Alex Dorr, Supkis Cheek rates the amount of drama she brings to the workplace. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         A summary of top JofA news items from earlier this week. ·         Why conference speakers on AI topics have a hard time providing timely slides for sessions. ·         The importance of the evergreen nature of accounting standards. ·         Supkis Cheek's explanation of professional skepticism's role in harnessing AI. ·         Detailing the public expectation gap as it relates to audits and technology. ·         Why Supkis Cheek considers the AI era a curation age instead of a technology age.

Sarah Ference, CPA, an author of the JofA's Professional Liability Spotlight column, returns to the JofA podcast to discuss recent column topics and the advice CPAs can gain from them. In the previous episode focused on Professional Liability Spotlight content, Ference detailed the January topic of risk management mantras. The articles discussed in this episode include: n  February: “Retired Partners: A Liability Risk?” n  March: “The Risk of Providing Unintentional Financial Advice” n  April: “Should I Disclose My Use of Gen AI to Clients?” In addition, Ference described the May column topic and several upcoming topics. What you'll learn from this episode: ·       The importance of considering the client's perspective related to disclosure of generative AI use. ·       An explanation of the concept of apparent authority. ·       Why guardrails are needed for retired partners who might still maintain an office at a firm. ·       How casual conversations with clients can expose a firm to risk. ·       A theme for upcoming Professional Liability Spotlight columns.

The latest Journal of Accountancy podcast episode is a wide-ranging conversation with two likely familiar names to listeners. April Walker, CPA, CGMA, AICPA & CIMA lead manager–Tax Practice & Ethics, and author John Garrett joined the show to discuss employee engagement in the hybrid and remote era, the importance of sharing and asking about hobbies, and why they are less likely these days to carry business cards to events such as conferences. Walker is the host of the Tax Section Odyssey podcast and the Reimaging Your Tax Practice webcast series. She has also been a host of tax-focused episodes on the JofA podcast. Garrett is a speaker, corporate consultant, and former Big Four accountant-turned-stand-up comedian. In previous episodes of the podcast, he has shared presentation tips and explained why our passions are essential to work success. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         Reviewing the concept of “bringing your whole self to work.” ·         Why, in Garrett's mind, employers should “value the worker as much as you value the work.” ·         Should you start a virtual team meeting with an icebreaker question? Why Walker says “yes.” ·         The speakers' opinions on business cards. ·         Words that could create “stronger and deeper connections” on a business card. ·         Why we should “shine a light” on outside interests.

In this Journal of Accountancy-branded podcast, a senior wealth strategist and managing partner share advice on how to initiate conversations with business clients about transition and succession planning.

David Zweighaft, CPA/CFF, is a co-author of this quarter's Eye on Fraud report, focused on financial tracing. Zweighaft joined the Journal of Accountancy podcast to discuss details in the report and share stories from his more than 30 years of experience in the field of forensic accounting. The discussion delves into particulars of the quarterly report and mentions an infamous municipal fraud case, which was one topic mentioned in a 2023 JofA podcast episode. Resources n  FVS Section home page n  CFF credential information page n  Eye on Fraud report for the first quarter of 2025 n  Understanding the Forensic Technology Landscape What you'll learn from this episode: ·         Zweighaft's definition of financial tracing. ·         Why human skills such as interviewing can be differentiators even as technology speeds up some tasks. ·         Some of the core accounting and auditing skills that apply to financial tracing. ·         The difference between direct and indirect financial tracing. ·         Details of the United States v. Melissa King case, a focus of the Eye on Fraud article Zweighaft co-wrote. ·         The value of hearing other professionals' stories in financial tracing.

Today's daf is sponsored by Devorah & Binyamin Radomsky on the occasion of the Bat Mitzva of their daughter Tamar.  Today's daf is sponsored by Daphne Lazar Price "Excited to meet fellow Daf learners at the upcoming JOFA conference in NYC!" The verse describing a rebellious elder in Devarim 17:8 is extrapolated in a braita, explaining what types of cases could lead to a rebellious elder situation, as well as other related issues. Three different opinions are presented regarding what categories of disagreements would cause a rebellious elder to incur the death penalty: disagreement about Torah law, disagreement about matters punishable by karet, or about a rabbinic interpretation of Torah law, or even a very minor point of interpretation. How do all the cases in the previous braita align with Rabbi Meir's opinion that a rebellious elder can only be liable in a case that involves a prohibition punishable by karet?

Today's daf is sponsored by Devorah & Binyamin Radomsky on the occasion of the Bat Mitzva of their daughter Tamar.  Today's daf is sponsored by Daphne Lazar Price "Excited to meet fellow Daf learners at the upcoming JOFA conference in NYC!" The verse describing a rebellious elder in Devarim 17:8 is extrapolated in a braita, explaining what types of cases could lead to a rebellious elder situation, as well as other related issues. Three different opinions are presented regarding what categories of disagreements would cause a rebellious elder to incur the death penalty: disagreement about Torah law, disagreement about matters punishable by karet, or about a rabbinic interpretation of Torah law, or even a very minor point of interpretation. How do all the cases in the previous braita align with Rabbi Meir's opinion that a rebellious elder can only be liable in a case that involves a prohibition punishable by karet?

Nina Chmura, CPA, a partner at the firm Withum, was a co-presenter with two other CPAs at Digital CPA in Denver on the topic of firms growing their client advisory services (CAS) offerings. The title of the session: “How to Be the CEO of Your CAS Practice.” Speaking from the conference site, Chmura detailed some of the keys to CAS success in this Journal of Accountancy podcast episode. Chmura also reflected on her career journey. She is a 2012 graduate of the AICPA Leadership Academy, calling the experience “life-changing.” Chmura also found value in being part of a panel of guest editors for the May 2017 issue of the JofA. What you'll learn from this episode: ·       The focus on metrics — identification and evaluation of effectiveness. ·       How the CAS advice and themes apply to her role at Withum. ·       The link between satisfied advisory clients and happy employees. ·       Identifying which KPIs are truly key to success. ·       Chmura's surprise about being asked to be a JofA guest editor in 2017. ·       More on her advice about identifying personal KPIs.

Jennifer Wilson, the CEO of ConvergenceCoaching LLC, co-presented a session at Digital CPA in Denver that addressed talent and leadership differences in remote and hybrid work environments. In this podcast episode, Wilson, who also served as the independent facilitator for the National Pipeline Advisory Group's (NPAG's) work in addressing the accounting talent shortage, discussed some of the differing points of view that managers and employees have about remote work. She also emphasized the importance of telling a better story about accounting — one of NPAG's recommended strategies for rebuilding the pipeline. Also in this episode is a mention of two recent news articles that affect CPAs. First is the news of beneficial ownership information (BOI) reporting requirements being in effect again after a court order. Second, the JofA reported on cuts in the IRS workforce. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         The “consternation and angst” in discussions about in-office vs. hybrid or remote work. ·         Why Wilson said that managers shouldn't use the word “back” when talking about where work gets done. ·         Who bears responsibility for an individual employee's learning and skill development. ·         The key to unifying teams in an era of dispersed workforces. ·         Wilson's hope for the profession in the coming year. ·         A recap of recent JofA news articles about BOI reporting and the IRS.

Mark Koziel, CPA, CGMA, was officially just a few days into his role as CEO of AICPA & CIMA when he took time to join the Journal of Accountancy podcast for a conversation that will be shared in two parts. Part one is below, and part two will be published in the coming days. Koziel — named in October to succeed the now retired Barry Melancon, CPA, CGMA — discussed the importance of hearing about the successes and challenges facing members, how he hopes to create communities, and more in this interview. Koziel also invited members to send email to AskMark@aicpa-cima.com and “tell me how the Association can help you, your career, and the profession.” Related links: n  The news of Koziel's hiring, succeeding Barry Melancon as CEO. n  Melancon's words about Koziel in a December podcast conversation. n  Koziel's previous JofA podcast appearance, as part of a 2022 episode when he was the CEO of Allinial Global. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         Three facts for members to know about Koziel, in his words. ·         What he sees as the profession's strengths and opportunities. ·         Why he calls accounting pipeline concerns “not a U.S.-only problem.” ·         Koziel's “listening tour” with members and his request for feedback. ·         More about his ideas for creating communities within the global membership of AICPA & CIMA. ·         Koziel's thoughts on the evolution of the profession. ·         The important distinction between outsourcing and offshoring. ·         A look ahead to part two of the conversation.

It's not even five weeks into 2025, and already there's a bevy of news affecting tax practitioners. Melanie Lauridsen, the AICPA's vice president–Tax Policy & Advocacy, joined the Journal of Accountancy podcast amid all the tumult to update listeners on several fronts. Lauridsen discussed the latest on beneficial ownership information (BOI) reporting and the Supreme Court, how IRS service might be affected by various executive orders, and what aspects of a new tax bill or bills are being followed closely by the AICPA. One bit of related news happened Thursday, one day after recording. The Senate Finance Committee released a discussion draft, the bipartisan Taxpayer Assistance and Service Act, which includes provisions the AICPA strongly supports. Resources: Melanie Lauridsen on LinkedIn The AICPA's BOI resource center JofA coverage of the IRS rescinding some job offers What you'll learn from this episode: A recap of court cases related to beneficial ownership information reporting requirements. The potential effects of an IRS hiring freeze on tax filing season. The role that retirements could play in future IRS service. Details of the AICPA's interest in proposed Circular 230 regulations. Why tax legislation this year could come in pieces instead of in one bill.

Risk management, in the words of Sarah Ference, CPA, doesn't have to be overly complicated or time consuming. “It's really a mindset,” said Ference, an author of the JofA's Professional Liability Spotlight column and the guest on this week's episode of the JofA podcast. Ference shares several risk management maxims that have resonated with her – ones that are the focus of the January column, Risk Management Mantras to Add to Your Daily Practice. In addition, Ference details the topics in some previous Professional Liabillity Spotlights: n  October: 10 Tips to Help Avoid Wire Fraud Scams. n  November: Missed Due Dates: Diligence and The Lurking Danger. n  December: How to Not Lose Sleep Over NOCLAR. What you'll learn from this episode: ·         Some of the risk management mantras that stand out to Ference. ·         The difference between being friendly and objective with clients. ·         The answer CPAs should give to the question “Who's your most important client?” ·         Why Ference says that being a natural helper can get in the way of a firm's best interests. ·         Explanation of the mantras “trust your gut” and “take the high road.” ·         Highlights of other recent JofA Professional Liability Spotlight columns.

Massive mailbag time! The San Jose Hockey Now Podcast takes on all your questions…four hours worth! Beast asked: Do the San Jose Sharks regret signing Sam Dickinson so early? Because if they had waited for longer, he could be NCAA-eligible next year. (1:46) Grand Nagus Shark asked: Could the Sharks loan CHL prospects like Quentin Musty to European pro leagues? Chris asked: What does the future hold for Bordeleau and Gushchin? Scott Z asked: “Any chance one or both of Macklin Celebrini or Will Smith gets sent to the Barracuda after the NHL season?” (20:40) Jan “Yon” asked: Could Kunin or Goodrow get traded? Nick Valderrama asked: What would your asking price be at the Deadline for Granlund, Jake Walman, Cody Ceci, Mario Ferraro (42:35) or Nico Sturm? Also, which current/retired Sharks player would you most want to ADD NEXT to Keegan on the pod? (55:16) splash114 asked: When do the Sharks move on from Jan Rutta? Embrace_the_rebuild asked: What is your prediction for Kostin, Zetterlund, Kovalenko, and Mukhamadullin? Fin Coe asked: “Two areas where Mike Grier's team seem to have excelled so far are talent evaluation and goaltending development; are there any other areas that they seem particularly stronger or weaker on?” (1:11:05) “Also, who in the bottom-six deserves to still be playing here after the Trade Deadline? After the season ends?” Zeke asked: “Which younger players do you think it's time for the San Jose Sharks to cut bait with sometime this season or off-season?” (1:25:55) FaultySynapse asked: “Who would be some free agents the organization should target this off-season? One unlikely dream scenario pick and one realistic possibility?” Scott Stephens asked if the Sharks will be looking at a big-name free-agent D.  Douglas Fowler asked: “How long do we control Celebrini and Smith, and when do you foresee a long-term contract happening?” Also, when do we project Dickinson to make the NHL? (1:45:35) Bob Horenstein asked: “You know a lot about hockey and details. What's your background?” (1:47:42) Ricky W asked: “Do you think Mike Grier could use Eklund as a trade piece if a great opportunity presents itself?” (1:58:52) Sven_ asked: “Would you trade Eklund and Granlund for Elias Pettersson?” Stephen Akerson-Nagy asked if Macklin may get homesick for Vancouver in his career. Ryan Martinez asked about Dickinson getting AHL time this year. (2:07:20) Lincoln Race asked why Goodrow keeps getting played? Andrew Maloata asked why Ferraro and Ceci keep getting played? James R asked: Which current Sharks D are here for the long term Also, “beyond Askarov, any Cuda players you think will play meaningful minutes for the Sharks in the second half?” (2:30:48) Eric asked: Seeing how the San Jose Sharks have drafted under Grier, do you think their 2025 Draft top-five is, in order, Schaefer, Misa, Hagens, Martone, and Jackson Smith? Nimrod asked: What would Šimon Nemec cost the Sharks? Blue Science asked: What are some team micro-stats for where the Sharks are at right now? Joe Epstein asked: “Could Luca Cagnoni have a ‘Dan Boyle' type of true ceiling?” (2:44:13) Tejus Govindjie asked: “Bold prediction for 2025 Sharks? Can be for latter half of this season, off-season, or beginning of next.” Megabite thinks Celebrini is getting too much coverage and exposure. (2:51:45) Stephanie K asked: Should the Sharks use Celebrini's Calder Trophy chase as motivation? What would you be willing to trade to get Rasmus Anderson? Kevin asked: “Is there a reason the lines are different every game?” Lina/Leonard/Steven Stoker/Austin Dias all asked about Logan Couture. (3:06:55) Alex Genadinik: If the Chicago Blackhawks got the No. 1 pick of the 2025 Draft, would they go forward or defense? “What's the level of James Hagens in terms of comparing him to other top recently-drafted centers like Bedard or Celebrini,Will Smith, Fantilli or Carlsson?” Ben Gardner asked: Eklund, Clarke, and Guenther went No. 7 through 9 in the 2021 Draft…have Clarke and Guenther moved ahead Eklund in projected ceiling?  Fred Azevedo asked: Could an NHL team bring the ECHL back to Stockton? (3:22:12) matthias893 asked: “Any word on Gannon Laroque?” Gary To asked: What's one thing that Celebrini, Smith, and Mukhamadullin each need to work on to push them to the next level? Sharksmustbealways asked: “What's the panic level with Georgiev?” Falco5 asked: How often do you hold back info and opinions because you are concerned it might hurt your relationship with current players? Alaskanice asked about our best and worst in-person game experiences. timorous me asked Sheng about his favorite food on the road and Keegan about his Sharks fandom. el gato joe asked: Have you gotten players' thoughts on CTE? (3:42:30) CeleBeauty asked about the WJC, Dickinson's play, and 2025 draft eligible tourney players. Mabel Trager asked if Vlasic's Jofa chest pads are older than Celebrini. Meetyourmako asked what is the faceoff probability stat? Tony De Matei asked: “I know there are different types of sources ... I guess my main curiosity is what is their incentive to be a ‘source'?” (3:55:40)

It's no secret anymore: Barry Melancon, CPA, CGMA, is retiring as CEO of AICPA & CIMA. He was first named CEO of the AICPA nearly 30 years ago, and he leaves the now global organization with a legacy of change. His last official day is Dec. 31, and Mark Koziel, CPA, CGMA, is his successor. In this episode of the JofA podcast, recorded earlier this week at Digital CPA in Denver, Melancon explains why he's not counting down the days of his tenure, why there likely will be more recreation in his future, and why he expects he will “still wake up every day and think about the profession.” What you'll learn from this episode: ·         Why Melancon hasn't been counting the days until his tenure as CEO ends. ·         His “stellar” assessment of how he will transition into retirement. ·         His relationship over the years with incoming CEO Mark Koziel, CPA, CGMA. ·         The “unsettled” nature of the world and how accountants can help. ·         Why Melancon prioritized the profession and the members before thinking of the organization. ·         The “humbling” messages he has received.

The potential for less regulation is one factor driving optimism among CPA decision-makers in a quarterly survey, according to Ken Witt, CPA, CGMA, AICPA & CIMA associate director–Management Accounting Research and Development. Witt joined the JofA podcast to discuss fourth-quarter results of the Business and Industry Economic Outlook Survey — statistics that were dramatically different from the third quarter. The executives are mostly optimistic about the domestic economy in 2025. They also have a brighter outlook as it relates to their own organizations, although that increase since the third quarter was more muted. What you'll learn from this episode: A breakdown of the quarter-over-quarter change in optimism. What challenge returned to its familiar top spot in this quarter's survey. The reasons that optimists and pessimists feel the way they do, according to Witt's analysis. The hiring outlook for 2025.

In this joint episode with the JofA podcast, host Neil Amato discusses with Melanie Lauridsen, Vice President of Tax Policy & Advocacy for the AICPA, what tax practitioners can expect regarding tax legislation. The conversation covers key tax topics following the 2024 election, including the future of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), beneficial ownership information (BOI) reporting, and disaster relief efforts. Melanie provides insights into the challenges and opportunities facing tax professionals in 2025, emphasizing the importance of staying informed.   What you'll learn from this episode:  The latest updates on disaster relief for BOI reporting.  Melanie's insights about the potential future of the TCJA provisions.  How IRS funding might be impacted by the new administration AICPA resources   Planning for tax changes – CPAs need to not only brace for tax law changes such as the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) and expiring provisions but also be proactive in planning for them.   Tax Advocacy – Advocacy is a core element of our purpose and value proposition. It is a strong mechanism for promoting trust and confidence in the CPA and CGMA credentials around the world.   Transcript April Walker: Welcome back to the AICPA's Tax Section Odyssey podcast, where we offer thought leadership on all things tax facing the profession. I'm April Walker, lead manager from the Tax section, and today we have a joint episode with the JOA, providing information on several important tax topics, such as BOI, disaster relief, and also upcoming potential tax legislation. Let's hear more. Neil Amato: Welcome to the Journal of Accountancy podcast. This is Neil Amato with the JofA. This episode is a special collaboration between the JofA and the Tax Section Odyssey podcast. It's Nov. 19 as we're recording, two weeks since the 2024 election. With the election over, we have results. We also have questions about the future of several tax topics. Here to provide some analysis and clarity on those topics is Melanie Lauridsen, vice president–Tax Policy & Advocacy for the AICPA. Melanie, welcome back to the podcast. Melanie Lauridsen: Thank you for having me back, Neil. Amato: We talk pretty regularly, pretty much a quarterly basis. It's safe to say that even if we keep this discussion fairly narrow in scope, there is plenty to discuss, so we'll get right to it. I'm going to tease for the listeners that there will be discussion of the future of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. But first, I'd like to ask about BOI reporting, beneficial ownership information reporting, as that's been in the news lately as well. What's the latest from your lens, the advocacy lens, on the topic of FinCEN's disaster relief for BOI? Lauridsen: Good topic, Neil. Disaster relief is something, regardless of what it is, whether it's tax or BOI, it is critical that people are able to get it as quickly as possible in the largest scope possible. With BOI, we are grateful that FinCEN did offer disaster relief for victims of various hurricanes, most notably Hurricane Milton and Hurricane Helene, which created quite a bit of damage to the areas they hit. But, unfortunately, the scope of the relief, particularly for those victims of Hurricane Helene, is not as broad and as encompassing as we would have liked it to have been. They did offer a filing relief for those victims. However, they didn't extend it to entities that had been created prior to 2024 and therefore had a Jan. 1, 2025, deadline. We know that [for] some of the entities, it took everything away. It destroyed everything, and those entities have years to rebuild, and they really could use an extension. With that in mind, we are actually working with various state CPA societies, and we are also working with FinCEN in order to broaden the scope that was issued, in particular for victims of Hurricane Helene. Of course, we are working with people on the Hill because there are a lot of questions around the Corporate Transparency Act and BOI reporting to begin with, much more so also with disaster relief that they would like to see some expansion of the scope, too. Amato: Yeah, and on that topic of the reports that are in versus the reports that are expected, it's still a pretty small number. I know people like to do things at the last minute, but it's something like 6.5 million of 32 million, so still a long way to go. Lauridsen: There is an awareness issue there, and FinCEN is highly aware that there is an awareness issue because, like you said, 6.5 million filings of 32.6 [million], there's a little bit of a disconnect, especially when we're in November. So we're talking there's a month and a half to file to meet those other — what is it? — 20-plus million filings that we have to go in 1½ months? I don't think they're going to be able to meet those numbers, so, yes. But a couple of things to note about that 6.5 million. Of those 6.5 million, the majority of those filings are for entities that were created in 2024 and had that 90-day deadline, and also for the 30-day corrected and updates that are needed, and that's the 30-day deadline needed. A lot of the existing entities, those that were created prior to 2024, still need to file. Now, FinCEN realizes that their numbers are not where they want them to be, and they are now focusing on awareness and not so much on enforcement. But they are, like I said, making pushes for awareness, and they were even on our AICPA Town Hall, so you can look at the archive there because we did host Phil Lam for that. But also, the other day, I was watching national television, and I saw one of their commercials. I just about fell out of my seat. I didn't think the messaging was as clear as it could have been, but they are trying to make efforts there. Amato: Was this the coffee shop ad that you saw? Lauridsen: Yes, it is. Amato: We wrote about that earlier this year, that the outreach had begun. But still, I guess, a ways to go on that topic. Let's look ahead to one item that was popular at the tax conference. It's popular in the news headlines, and I know it's something you're paying attention to: the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. It's a very open-ended question, but I'll ask it anyway: What's the future of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act? Lauridsen: Well, Neil, we would all love to know exactly what the future is. But, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, it's interesting because a lot of people said prior to the election, we always knew that tax was going to be on the agenda. People were saying that, it all depended on if it was Democrat or Republican that ended up taking the presidency. Ultimately, the same topics are at stake. TCJA was always something that was going to be debated and discussed, regardless of who ended up being in office and who will be in office. The difference is we definitely know that President-elect Trump would like to see TCJA provisions become permanent. Now, the reality is all those provisions cost money, and there are real dollars associated with it. Even though we are going to be seeing in 2025 the trifecta effect, where the Republicans have swept across the board, it doesn't mean that everybody is in line with the same provisions, and therefore it doesn't mean we know exactly what will be coming. A lot of what is to come becomes an argument of how much things cost and how much things don't cost and what can be included and what can be agreed on. The debate is still very much alive as to what will happen with TCJA. I think, this is my pure speculation, I think we're going to see a hybrid of all the things that are there and not necessarily everything becoming permanent. But who's to say? Things could absolutely change. Amato: Do you want to talk about any of the particulars within that, for example, the SALT cap, estate tax policies, the future of the corporate tax rate? Lauridsen: All of those pieces are very interesting. The SALT cap, let's start with that one. The SALT cap, we have heard that they would like to eliminate the SALT cap. On a personal level, sure. I would love to see that go away. I know quite a few people feel that way about it. But the reality is that it costs money. Right now, the SALT cap at the $10,000 cap is a revenue raiser, and it helps pay for other aspects of it. If they were to eliminate it, that will cost a lot more money than what is anticipated. If we were to see a change, again, this is pure speculation on my part, obviously, we have to wait and see how things play out and what indicators we see. Right now, we haven't seen any specific indicators, but I wouldn't be surprised if the SALT cap ends up being raised slightly, not completely eliminated because, again, it costs money to eliminate it. Amato: OK, state tax policies next. Lauridsen: You said estate? Amato: Estate. Sorry, estate, not state, as opposed to state and local tax. Now, estate tax. Lauridsen: With estate tax policy, there's definitely a desire and a will to see the cap also eliminated because with TCJA, after TCJA, it will cut in half of what we're seeing. Who knows what we'll see in that play. Again, it costs money to be able to have no limit for estate tax planning purposes. I do think like the SALT cap we're going to see something come out in the middle. Maybe it'll maintain, maybe it might increase, but completely unlimited — I don't see that happening, either. Amato: Then finally, the corporate tax rate as it relates to the TCJA. Lauridsen: The corporate tax rate, that is definitely something that has been discussed. We have heard during the campaigns from President-elect Trump that he would like to lower the corporate tax rates, but please keep in mind that the current corporate tax rates in TCJA, again, they cost money. What is paying for those corporate tax rates are those small business provisions that we would like to see come back. For example, Sec. 174, the R&E expenditures. We would like to see that 100% bonus depreciation. We would like to see that come back, but those are some of those provisions that pay for that lower corporate tax rate. Of course, there's the [Sec.] 163(j) interest expense deduction and Sec. 199A, the qualified business income. Again, all those pieces come into play into that corporate tax rate because, technically, those are the pay-fors for that corporate tax rate, so it's a handoff. Amato: Good description of the pay-for aspect of it. Anytime there's a change in administration, I guess the IRS funding topic comes up. The IRS has said many times that the funding it received under the Inflation Reduction Act was helping it provide better service. Now, I guess that funding is going to be up for debate. What do you see as the future there? Lauridsen: Well, that is definitely something. The funding for the IRS, specifically, the Inflation Reduction Act, the IRA as we call it, is something that we are definitely going to keeping an eye on because, if you take a look at the Inflation Reduction Act, the majority of the money, $80 billion — that was allocated towards enforcement. Now there was a piece that was allocated to IRS services, and it is that piece, that portion where we've seen the increased answering of the telephone, the hiring of people at the IRS to be able to provide services with that. Now, we know that that particular funding for IRS services from the Inflation Reduction Act is set to run out by 2026. If the money runs out, what do you think will happen? We'll see decreased IRS services. The way we're looking at it is we do know there is interest in clawing back the Inflation Reduction Act funding and, specifically, for the enforcement piece of it. Our position is, well, let's not take it away from the IRS. Let's rebalance it and shift it over to services. One thing to note, though, is enforcement is a critical function of the IRS. Not everything under enforcement is audits, liens, and levies — all these things that people don't want to see happening. There are pieces of enforcement like Chief Counsel's Office that is covered under enforcement, and Chief Counsel are the ones who provide the regulations and those guides, the guidelines to people in order to be compliant with their taxes. It is a critical function of the IRS. Now, do they need as much as they got? I would venture to say and would like to see some of that money going from enforcement to IRS services and not necessarily clawed back. Amato: That's great. Now, I said we're two weeks since the election. We're also about one week since the AICPA & CIMA National Tax Conference. I know you were there. I know you were busy yourself, but maybe, as you interact with members, as you interact with people in Washington, if you could then look ahead to 2025, what do you see as challenges that are tax-related and also opportunities for the new year? Lauridsen: Some of the challenges that our people have, and we've actually done some informal surveys, too, and the results are the same and we're seeing this trend. There's a lot of growing concern with new legislation coming and, in particular, retroactive legislation or midyear legislation, which makes it particularly hard for members to be able to keep up with it. Retroactivity doesn't help because then you have to amend returns if you already started down that process. Of course, with both last-minute legislation and retroactive legislation, you have to keep on top of the tax changes. Now, you should do that on every given year, but when they do it retroactively or midyear, it makes it particularly hard when you're in the middle of filing season. That is one of the biggest challenges that our members are concerned about. Also, with new legislation, that means we are waiting on guidance from the IRS. The IRS [process] can be very time-consuming in looking at the rules to able to provide guidance. Again, people just want to be compliant. People aren't trying to get out of it. They just want to be compliant, and they need some guidance. That's another concern that we see there. Of course, other challenges that we're seeing associated with Sec. 199A — we would love to see the extension of that to continue, but ideally, we would also like to see the expansion of Sec. 199A. Again, that costs money, and where is that money going to come by in order to be able to achieve something along those lines within it. But, there are opportunities, Neil. Some of those opportunities there's mobile workforce, opportunities there's an appetite for that hopefully that we can see move forward, and that would be something that would make a lot of people's lives a lot easier. That essentially is saying to put a safe harbor that if you work less than 30 days in a state, then you don't file at that state level. It would have to be over 30 days to be able to move forward with that. The expanded use of 529 accounts to be able to pay for studying to sit for the CPA Exam or to be able to get your financial planning certification associated with that. There are pieces of opportunities. Another piece of opportunity that we would like to see — maybe we'll see a change with the Form 1099-K, with the threshold. Remember that was at $600, and there's been a debate where it could be, so maybe we'll see an increase in that threshold filing. Of course, disaster relief. We would love to be able to see some of the bigger positions that we've had associated with disaster relief to make a real difference for victims of disasters. Amato: Good points all. Thank you very much, Melanie. I'll give you the opportunity to give a closing thought if you have one. Lauridsen: My closing thoughts are, I think 2025 is a huge tax year. I think we just need to buckle down and get ready for that roller coaster that's going to be coming, and it's always important to keep up to date and follow through, but in this year, changes are happening. They're happening quickly. I think podcasts like this, webcasts, things like the AICPA Town Hall, they become even more critical for people to keep up to date. Amato: Great. We will keep having you on. We'll see you again in 2025, and thank you for being on the show today. 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