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In this episode, hosts Pete Jansons and Joe Weiss delve into the local political landscape of Lake Forest, focusing on recent rumors and controversies surrounding Phil Arouca. They analyze his potential candidacy for the District 67 School Board, examine his political affiliations, and discuss his involvement with the Lake Forest Caucus. The conversation also highlights Lori Fitzgerald as the superior, Caucus-vetted candidate. Notably, Lori was initially a contested candidate until she discovered the existence of the Caucus, which influenced her decision to align with it. Key Points Discussed: The validity of rumors regarding Phil Arouca's interest in the District 67 School Board. Arouca's political endorsements and donations, including his support for both Randy Tack and Prue Beidler. Comparative analysis of political donations by Phil Arouca, Prue and Frank Beidler, and Lori Fitzgerald. Lori Fitzgerald's journey from a contested candidate to a Caucus-aligned choice. Pete Jansons' perspective on Phil Arouca's political actions and affiliations. The broader implications of these dynamics on the Lake Forest community. Join us as we unpack these developments and explore their impact on local governance and community relations. Key Moments: 0:00 Pre-show banter: Trump victory and discussing Kari Arouca rumors about running for the District 67 School Board; analyzing validity 3:56 Phil Arouca rumors 4:15 Lori Fitzgerald clip 4:44 Phil Arouca as a member of the Lake Forest Caucus endorsing Randy Tack for mayor 5:06 Phil Arouca, still a member of the Caucus, sends a letter endorsing Prue Beidler over Randy Tack 6:00 Does Phil Arouca have an agenda? Examining her political leanings and donations to Eric Rinehart 7:36 Was Phil Arouca expelled from the Caucus? 9:10 Elon Musk's Latin tweet: "Novus Ordo Seclorum" https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1854313...12:39 Phil Arouca will not join the podcast, prompting Pete to form his opinion 17:35 Pete's thoughts on Phil Arouca 21:10 Discussion on tampons in men's restrooms 24:00 Pete connecting the dots on Phil Arouca and forming his opinion 25:42 Overview of political donations made by the Arouca family 31:00 Joe Weiss shares screen on political donations by Phil Arouca, Prue Beidler, Frank Beidler, and Kari Arouca 32:50 Comparison of Lori Fitzgerald's political donations to Phil Arouca's 36:35 Update on Prue and Frank Beidler's political donations 42:45 Rick Lesser and discussion on Jewish Amish Trump voters in Arizona 43:28 What would change Pete Jansons' opinion on Phil Arouca 44:00 Lori Fitzgerald's initial contested school board candidacy 45:00 Reason for discussing Kari Arouca and Prue Beidler's agenda 47:45 Susan Garrett clip 48:05 Pete's issues with the Caucus    • The Great Resignation Lake Forest Pod...  48:16 Prue Beidler Gerhards clip    • A Funny Thing Happened on the Way To ...  52:28 Pete's summary of his opinion on Kari Arouca 53:10 Discussion on "Go Scouts vs Libertyville" Like, comment, and subscribe for more in-depth discussions on local politics and community matters! #philArouca #PeteJansons #JoeWeiss #LakeForestPolitics #District67SchoolBoard #PoliticalEndorsements #PrueBeidler #RandyTack #Caucus #PoliticalDonations #LocalElections #SusanGarrett #LoriFitzgerald #kariarouca --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lakeforestpodcast/support

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This new data from Barna will blow your mind. Tell me your thoughts on 2023. I will share here (not on the video) what the Father is telling me about 2023! PROPHECY 2023 The Lord says: “Be careful to put on the whole armor of God in these days, for some have neglected to cover their heads in the day of battle and have let the enemy rob their HOPE. The night is coming upon the earth but you are not of the night, you are the children of the day and walk in the light. “But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the HOPE of salvation as a helmet.” (1 Thess 5:8) My desire is your full and complete salvation and deliverance. There are aspects of salvation I would have you explore and be thoroughly convinced of. Darkness will cover the earth but on YOU the light of my GLORY COMES. “For behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and thick darkness the peoples; but the LORD will arise upon you, and his glory will be seen upon you.” (Isa 60:2) Consider well the operation of faith, hope and love, for in such a way does the bride “make herself ready”. For the glory that is to be revealed in my temple in the latter days is greater than the glory of the former days. This glory will be manifest in my temple - and YOU are the temple of the living God. You are My house. For the helmet of HOPE covers your THOUGHT-LIFE. Your thought-life must be protected so that your faith remains strong. Notice the relationship between HOPE and FAITH. “Faith is the substance of things HOPED FOR…” (Heb 11:1) If the enemy can get your hope he gets your faith. If he gets your head he gets your heart. Note the whole armor of God is needed for BOTH head and heart. The breastplate of RIGHTEOUSNESS covers the vulnerable organs, especially the heart. Keep yourself free from condemnation in your heart because unresolved guilt short-circuits your faith. Righteousness comes by repentance and faith in the blood. This cleanses your conscience from accusation. This is what protects your heart from condemnation. Your heart is where belief resides. Man believes with the heart. This is where the force of FAITH dwells. Guard your heart with all diligence and protect it from strife and bitterness. In this way you guard your faith. Faith is a powerful force but it works and is energized by LOVE. “Faith -worketh- (worketh is the word “energized” in Greek) by love” (Gal 5:6) Notice how these three work together: faith hope and love. 1. Love is the catalyst. 2. Hope gets the blueprint. 3. Faith is the substance that materializes what hope provided. The renewed mind is where the blueprint of hope is created. Everything you could ask or think of must be accompanied by an image. Casting down imaginations and bringing every thought into obedience frees up your mind to have the IMAGES and imaginations of God on the screen. Thus you are “renewed in the spirit of you mind” (Eph 4:23) and “transformed by the renewing of your mind.” (Romans 12:1-2) This renewing process is the discipline of study, meditation, and appropriation of the mind of Christ through the Word of God. This is building or forming a helmet of salvation, a divine protection over your thought life. It is also how you build and access an arsenal of divine ideas that have authority to be manifested on the earth. Did you catch all that? You should print that all out and meditate on it. I think I will. The Lord told me that “men's hearts failing them” in the natural would be a sign of spiritual heart failure in many who are falling away from their faith. They fall because they gave up hope because of the increase of darkness. They lost faith. The Lord was telling me that as we press into a right understanding of what God is doing we shall be building layers of HOPE around our mind. This hope will furnish a blueprint for FAITH to materialize. That blueprint is like Noah's ark. Build it and it will keep you thru the flood. The ark had three levels: 30,60,100 fold. “Faith is the substance of things hoped for.” (Romans 5:5) And equally important is LOVE because faith operates by love. In the last days lawlessness will cause lovelessness to be a major attack from hell in order to break down unity and the coming moves of God. “Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.” (Mt 24:12) But those who guard their minds and hearts will tap into the supernatural LOVE OF GOD. It won't be your love or your faith it will be the Gods own powerful faith and love. Paul said, “I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved us and gave Himself for us.” (Gal 2:20) It's Gods faith that will keep your faith alive. Likewise when your heart is faint, and you are vexed by the lawlessness of others, it is not your love, it's Gods supernatural love kicking in by the indwelling Spirit. “Now HOPE does not disappoint, because the LOVE of God has been poured out in our hearts BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who was given to us.” (Ro 5:5) Notice how the love that is shed abroad from the Holy Spirit INSIDE US connects us to the HOPE that does not disappoint. What is hope? It is the confident expectation of good that will come out of the present momentary challenge or contradiction. It is a picture of the future that God paints on our imagination as we meditate upon what He wants to do. Hold onto that picture. It feeds the image to faith so that faith can make it materialize. Faith is the substance maker and materializer of things you hope for in your mind. It often materializes better than you can ask or think. But asking and thinking are part of the process. Guard your thoughts with the helmet of hope, the confident expectation that Gods will shall be done and you will be a winner and not a looser. An overcomer. One by one those strongholds are coming down by the authority of Christ. God is giving us greater revelation of salvation in these days. “How shall we escape, if we neglect so GREAT SALVATION…?” (Heb 2:3) Why is it called a GREAT salvation? Why is God taking us back to basics? Because within the scope of this salvation is a 30 fold and 60 fold and 100 fold dimension. Like Noah's ark with three floors. PERHAPS My spiritual mother had a vision of the words “so great salvation” and saw three levels of attainment by the saints “working out” their salvation. In fact she saw the words: “Continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you to both will and to do His good pleasure.” (Phil 2:12-13) 1. There are those who will be JUSTIFIED (30 fold) Christ is the Way TO heaven. These are saved as by fire. 2. There will be those who will be SANCTIFIED (60 fold) Christ is the way and TRUTH. Christ is working IN them. 3. There will be those who will be GLORIFIED (100 fold) Christ the way and the truth and the LIFE! Christ is working THRU them. They are manifesting Christ's LIFE. Resurrection life. These would be the manifestation of the sons of God spoke of in Romans 8. The Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary says something interesting about this. “So great salvation” - embodied in Jesus, whose very name means "salvation," including not only deliverance from foes and from death, and the grant of temporal blessings (which the law promised to the obedient), but also grace of the Spirit, forgiveness of sins, and the promise of heaven, glory, and eternal life (Heb 2:10). “Take the helmet of salvation.”

Kedatangan Yesus sudah dinubuatkan sejak ribuan tahun sebelumnya, tapi saat Yesus lahir ke bumi justru tidak ada ruangan bagi-Nya. Seringkali hal yang sama terjadi ketika Yesus hendak masuk dalam kehidupan kita, di mana kita tidak memberikan ruangan untuk-Nya bekerja. WHY DO WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR JESUS? BUSYNESS CALCULATION WORRY WHY SHOULD WE MAKE A ROOM FOR JESUS? To know God's PLAN To know God's WAY To know God's TIME You don't know that Jesus is the only one you need, until Jesus is the only one you have. ~Tim Keller

Stepfamily Holiday Stress Got You Anxious? You're not alone, Stepmama! In today's episode, grab your journals, planners, and coffee to sit down and take some time to prepare before you find yourself entangled in the holiday frenzy that all too often can steal your joy.5 Stepmom Strategies to Reduce Anxiety and Show Up Authentically You#1  Be curious! ❓

How many days have you gotten out of bed, and as your feet hit the floor, you're thinking of the things that you need to do and how full the day is and how there may not be enough time and the anxiety that you might be feeling over what's going on that day, especially when it has something to do with step kids???!!! Actually, all these things happen before your feet hit the floor, right? Because our brains are going a g'zillion miles a minute. How do you slow down that freight train? Well, I propose it all starts with a Stepmom Timeout with Jesus!If you're having trouble hearing from God, check out Episode #103 Are You Struggling to Understand God's Will for Your Life? 5 Steps to Hearing From God>>>>>>GO DEEPER NOW

Discerning God's will in a noisy world requires intentionality.  Especially right now, as the holiday seasons gears up, it's time for a strategy that's as simple as A, B, C, D, & E!In today's episode, Jen reboots episode #65 where Bill and Jen share strategies that will work for you and your marriage so you can not only find the quiet, but begin to discern God's call, blessings, and stewardship authority for your family.Stop Struggling, Start Drawing Closer to God's Will for you and your marriage!Here are the 5 simple steps:A: Attitude - ready to hear from GodB: Bible Study - Search for Scriptural AnswersC: Conviction of the Holy SpiritD: Determine if we have peace: "Let peace be your referee!"E: Expect DifficultyToday's episode draws from The Mystery of God's Will by Charles Swindoll Do You Wish There Was a Way To...Stop Feeling Like Such an Outsider In Your Stepfamily?Imagine with me! In 90 days You can...Stop feeling like such an imposter as a stepmom. Experience confidence in your role, without the stigma of being the 2nd wife!Be understood by your husband and put first – ahead of your man's ex and his kids. Find your voice and regain control in your stepfamily, God's Way.Are you tired of being exhausted, frustrated, and left out, Stepmom?  It's time to become an insider - with influence in your stepfamily.  Details coming soon for the 90 Day Deep Dive Bootcamp starting January 2023!  Don't miss it!>>>>>>GET ON THE WAITLIST NOW!>>>>>>Get What You Want Now>>>>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.com/comingsoonP.S. Here's the link for Quiet Parks international (QPI)Like this episode? Great! Thank you! Subscribe today! Please, share with a friend!Tell me what you need! Send a voice message to Jen>>>https://www.speakpipe.com/CoachJenBrave Stepmoms FB Group>>>https://www.facebook.com/groups/bravestepsmomInsta>>>https://www.instagram.com/boldstepsmomWeb>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.comBe strong, and let your heart be courageous, all you who put your hope in the Lord.Psalm 31:24

There are at least two sides to every conflict, and when it's between divorced or separated parents, sparks can fly. As a special bonus drop, Jen welcomes co-parenting experts Diane Dierks and Rick Voyles.  On Co-Parent Dilemmas, listeners ask questions like these: What do you do when the other parent won't be flexible with the parenting schedule? How do you respond to a co-parent who is constantly blowing up your phone with texts?Is it really important to talk to your children when they are at the other parent's house? And what about the parent who won't share important information with you about the children? Do you give in to the other parent's antics or should you hold your ground?In today's bonus show, you'll gain insight into the mind of a judge and what things he considers when responding to Candace.  How do we know when it is time to go back to court?Should somebody go to court and take the chance, especially if they have limited resources? We all know it is not cheap to go back to court and pay attorneys, especially with delays. It feels like you're shelling out cash right and left, and then, you get to the end of court drama & trauma, and nothing really changes.  Do You Wish There Was a Way To...Stop Feeling Like Such an Outsider In Your Stepfamily?Imagine with me! In 90 days You can...Stop feeling like such an imposter as a stepmom. Experience confidence in your role, without the stigma of being the 2nd wife!Be understood by your husband and put first – ahead of your man's ex and his kids. Find your voice and regain control in your stepfamily, God's Way.Are you tired of being exhausted, frustrated, and left out, Stepmom?  It's time to become an insider - with influence in your stepfamily.  Details coming soon for the 90 Day Deep Dive Bootcamp starting January 2023!  Don't miss it!>>>>>>GET ON THE WAITLIST NOW! >>>>>>Get What You Want Now>>>>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.com/comingsoon Find out more about Diane & RickCo-Parent Dilemmas>>>https://www.cpdilemmas.com/High Conflict Institute>>>https://www.highconflictinstitute.com/Diane Dierks is a licensed marriage and family therapist, as well as the executive director of the Center for Navigating Family Change. Rick Voyles is CEO of the Center for Dispute Solutions, a certified business coach, anger management specialist, and professional mediator. Tell me what you need! Send a voice message to Jen>>>https://www.speakpipe.com/CoachJenBrave Stepmoms FB Group>>>https://www.facebook.com/groups/bravestepsmomInsta>>>https://www.instagram.com/boldstepsmomWeb>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.comBe strong, and let your heart be courageous, all you who put your hope in the Lord.Psalm 31:24

Does Divorce Ruin Your Stepfamily Holiday Celebrations? The Top 3 Answers Stepmoms Need Before Thanksgiving & ChristmasIn today's episode, Tess, Stephanie, and Mikaela ask top questions Stepmoms ask regarding the holiday season.Are you dealing with jealousy among your stepkids and biological children?  Is the comparison over gifts given among themselves, creating feuds in your stepfamily home?How about traditions? What are you doing to establish new traditions in your blended home?And finally, how do you let go of the dream to pass on those beloved traditions to your family and children, especially if you're in a family with only stepchildren and no biological children.  Spoiler - I want to know what prompts us to give up the dream to begin with.Today's episode is good, Stepmama! Hit play and let's do this, together! Do You Wish There Was a Way To...Stop Feeling Like Such an Outsider In Your Stepfamily?Imagine with me! In 90 days You can...Stop feeling like such an imposter as a stepmom. Experience confidence in your role, without the stigma of being the 2nd wife!Be understood by your husband and put first – ahead of your man's ex and his kids. Find your voice and regain control in your stepfamily, God's Way.Get on the waitlist now!>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.comBrave Stepmoms FB Group>>>https://www.facebook.com/groups/bravestepsmomInsta>>>https://www.instagram.com/boldstepsmomWeb>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.comBe strong, and let your heart be courageous, all you who put your hope in the Lord.Psalm 31:24

WOOOHOOOOO!!!! 100TH EPISODE TODAY! Exciting!!!Do you want to gain ideas on how you can build trust, garner respect, and raise your stepkids aligned with God's Principles?  Listen in to a live coaching episode I did with Holly where we come up with strategies to elevate respect in the home.  Holly uses the knowledge she has about her stepkids to generate ideas to communicate well and create meaningful change.If you're ready to book a coaching session with me and you are inside the FB Group, check out Guide 3 to apply!P.S. If you missed enrolling in the fall bootcamp, it's not too late for you to get clarity, skyrocket your confidence, and end all the stepmom exhaustion! Get on the waitlist for January's 90 Day Deep Dive! Do You Wish There Was a Way To...Stop Feeling Like Such an Outsider In Your Stepfamily?Imagine with me! In 90 days You can...Stop feeling like such an imposter as a stepmom. Experience confidence in your role, without the stigma of being the 2nd wife!Be understood by your husband and put first – ahead of your man's ex and his kids. Find your voice and regain control in your stepfamily, God's Way.Get on the waitlist now!>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.comBrave Stepmoms FB GroupInstaWebBe strong, and let your heart be courageous, all you who put your hope in the Lord.Psalm 31:24

Do you know what the weapon is, woman of God? It's Prayer! Prayer is a powerful weapon – the most powerful weapon in your Stepmama arsenal.There's a lot of talk about conspiracies, theories, and end times.  Let me share with you what is NOT a conspiracy. Satan is not a conspiracy.The Devil is real.  Scripture tells us he's the most cunning of all the wild animals that the Lord God had made. You know Eve's temptation – Satan's first of many demonic demonstrations of his one trick wonder in Genesis 3.  When you diminish the devil's power by dismissing him, he'll take note and take advantage of being relegated to scheming behind the scenes. Note:  that doesn't make him any less dangerous to you and your family.This weapon, this powerful weapon of prayer strengthens you. Ephesians 6:10 says, “Be strengthened by the Lord and by his vast strength.”  If you're looking for answers on what it really takes to be a Stepmom, it's time to uplevel your game!Do You Wish There Was a Way To...Stop Feeling Like Such an Outsider In Your Stepfamily?Imagine with me! In 90 days You can...Stop feeling like such an imposter as a stepmom.  Experience confidence in your role, without the stigma of being the 2nd wife!Be understood by your husband and put first – ahead of your man's ex and his kids. Find your voice and regain control in your stepfamily, God's Way.Get on the waitlist now!>>>https://www.stepfamilypodcast.com>>>Episode 98 Feeling Emotionally Numb in Your Stepfamily? 4 Ways to Feel Like a Smart Stepmom in Your Blended FamilyBrave Stepmoms FB GroupInstaWebBe strong, and let your heart be courageous, all you who put your hope in the Lord.Psalm 31:24

Book Nook special show,   LET'S TAL TILLY. Una McCormack, joins us to discuss her original novel based on the explosive  TV series Star Trek: Discovery, Way To the Stars.  Despite being an inexperienced Starfleet cadet, Sylvia Tilly became essential to the USS Discovery finding its way back home from the Mirror Universe. But how did she find that courage? From where did she get that steel? . BLACK ALERT!

"How Do You Go From Entry-Level All the Way To the Top?"Guest: Michele Creechwww.pbandjaisy.comInstagram: @pbandjaisyinfo@pbandjaisy.comMichele Creech: www.michelecreech.com | Facebook: @homeloansbymichelecreech | Instagram: @michele.creechBill Steddum - Facebook: @Bill.SteddumJaisy George - Instagram: @jaisyyySarah Padgett - Facebook: @sarahpsellshousesProduction/Recording/Editing: Tom GeorgeOriginal Music Written and Composed By: Michael Padgett www.michaelpadgettmusic.com/References/Shout Outs:Brian Buffini - The Brian Buffini Show (Podcast)Amici Cellars WineMaggiano's Little Italy RestaurantThank you so much for listening! Please make sure to subscribe! 

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This week we check in with George Huxford from Apidura makers of cycling bags for every gravel cycling adventure. We learn the various types of bags from tip to tail of the bicycle and get some practical advice on packing and load distribution. Episode Sponsor:  PNW Components (15% off with code 'thegravelride') Apidura online Apidura Instagram Support the Podcast Automated Transcription (please excuse the typos) Apidura: George Huxford - Bags for every cycling adventure 00:00:05 - 00:05:12 Hello and welcome to The Gravel Ride podcast I'm your host Craig Dalton. This week's podcast is brought to you by our friends at P. N. W. Components. I've been riding the coast handlebar at four hundred and eighty millimeters and the coast dropper post for maybe almost three months now, and after tell you I'm really sold particularly with my recent move down to two Panga California. I've really started to own my appreciation for the suspended dropper post. So, let's make an important distinction. there. I'm a big fan of the dropper post the ability to drop your saddle down via technical sections the Costa Dropper Post is actually a suspended dropper post. So it's air actuated meaning. You can tune it to your body weight and preference, but the post will actually dipped down when I hit a rather aggressive hit with the back end of my bike. So I'm using the dropper component. When I know I'm going to get into some rough stuff and the suspended component when I don't. The net result of this is I'm always protected when I get into the rough stuff saddle up saddle down I've got a little secret weapon. This dropper post combined with the wide handlebars has left me as comfortable as I've ever been getting into the technical terrain. So if you're looking for something to up your technical elements, definitely give pm w components look at pm w components, dot com, and for the gravel ride podcast listeners, you can get fifteen percent off coupon for your first order using the code the gravel ride. So onto this week's guest, really excited to welcome George Houck's furred from the bag company Applera based in London England. Abdur has a full range of bags for gravel cycling bike packing excetera. You guys know I love bags. So as exciting to talk to George and take bags from every different angle on the bike and talk about mixing and matching different bags to meet your gravel cycling needs so I. Hope You enjoy this interview and with that said, let's dive right in George Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. It's great to be here Yeah. It's a real honor you listen to podcasts for. Rages now. Yes. Fantastic guests and yeah. So It's going to be amongst them I appreciate that. Well, let's start off by learning a little bit about you and your cycling background, and then about epidurals and how it came about and I'm excited really everybody on the WHO listened to the podcast knows I'm a big bag geek. So I'm excited to kind of just go from tip to tail and talk about the full range of bags that grovel cyclists can be using to satisfy. Their their gear capacity heeds. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That sounds great. I'm Yeah. I'm a massive Geek on as well. So we're GONNA need someone to stop too much into the details to a perfect house zips work and all that kind of thing. But yeah, we'll try and keep interesting right on. So how did you? How did you get into cycling and how did you find your way to aperture and how did the company get started? Well, I've I like a lot of your guests start off in white shops. Growing up at always been into bike since anything really racing mountain bikes riding Banamex is all kinds of stuff. Are Not led me working in bike shops Off the. Ships bit moved up to the what can brand and. I ended up driving a big van for the demo bikes round the UK, for a number of years to events, setting people up full suspension bikes setting up in talks and trial sentences, which was which was great and that sort of led me down a kind of marketing within the cycle industry Yeah and then I I came across the aperture once they've been what's been going for little bit to kind of help them with the with the growth than. Themselves in the in the kind of wide cycling market. So. Yeah. At this point, I've been here. Account even think maybe it's three is Yes go relatively young company and. Yeah I'm not spend time with them now and when the company was first founded, they've was it founded around us certain specific product or opportunity. yet to ascend extent. So the company was actually founded in two thousand thirteen, but it was it was about a year and for products came out. So a found a tour had been been writing for a great number of years and had really gotten into the side riding coming mugged on a long distance cross country background, and then moving into longer longer events. I'm basically found that the kind of the on offer at that time to kind of backpacking gear wasn't the same kind of experience maybe wasn't the same kind of technical stand as she used to in kind of clothing and in the bikes and suspension electron stuff and I wanted to kind of. 00:05:13 - 00:10:02 Add a bit more technology and make a little bit if people actually get the stuff on their bikes. So having done toward abide, she decided to kind of. Out in south accompanied. By, two thousand fourteen. I packs were on the market. And since then I think we've really entered the golden age of bags on bikes. The innovation has been. Super staggering the last few years. Likes, and we now see bags attached almost everywhere across the bike and I needed. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a good point I mean when? When bought packing I died it was really. It was more about what it wasn't. It wasn't racks and Patios and that meant people can put bags on the kind of bikes that particular surface they weren't to right. Instead of starting with a bike, the luggage you start with the ride bike for the kind of writing once. said, he wanted to ride for a week on a mountain bike of two weeks on a road bike you went. Held back trying to find something that could run a rack Sarah it comes style that way the the archetype. Like packing ranges probably the saddle pack then quite quickly. So handlebar pox name frame packs. And those kind of like there's three pieces make what most people think the covered. By packing south. You're quite right and plenty of of places on the bike where you can squeeze and space if you want to. Yeah I think you know one of the big takeaways I wanted to have the listener? Arrive at from this conversation was just they already have a bike that's capable of doing massive amounts of adventure from. Multi Week, multi-month touring to just being more comfortable on a long big day ride. So if we talk about the different types of packs I thought, it'd be a good way to start just a start at the front of the bike and let's go through all the different modalities because you've referenced handlebar bags frame bags and saddlebags which will drill into but there's also additional mounting points from top to mounts to folk mounts two. Different I know you've got different accessory packs that velcro onto the bike anywhere you want who? Let's start at the front of the bike and maybe down at the fork and just talk about what's possible. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a really good way of going I'm semi when I look at a kind of applied this I'm always trying to balance out is. Accessibility, that's it's the the white and the white balance on the bike So as you get kind of. Away from where you are a writer, that's the kind of stuff way you've got limited accessibility it's so stop worrying to go into maybe just the beginning of the ride or at the end of the ride. So on the full quayle talking about this there's loads of companies now, really getting into the idea of helping white pack is out wiping more mounts on their bikes. On the foot mounts really good spot for that image you can carry around comfortably zero solid mountain place. what it lacks is that kind of accessibility from the Saddle Sipho may be in stuff that. That was like kind camping out maybe or needed for the the at the end of the Roy robinsons want to be getting into as far as weight distribution George. So I don't have any experience with extra weight on the forks like that on the side how to how does one think about that does the imagine it slows the steering down quite a bit. So is there you packing your most lightweight? Non, every moment needed items down there. Yeah that that would certainly be my suggestion. Packs on the four care of some of the last packs I would add to pretty full sets up. So it's the kind of thing if we. Sang out for. To a three week trip and you needed some extra stuff worth it got really cold Planning Mountain Pastas awebber changeable. It's real good spot for an extra thick sleeping bag or another layer sleeping system as well as a a down jacket or something like that generally that yeah. January the principal we wanna think about is the heavy of the item the closer to the bottom bracket we want to put it. That just keeps the handling as you'd expect on your bunk and the key thing about the packing set is that we can use a whole system of smallpox to kind of to achieve that objective robin putting everything just in one spot mobike. Yeah. That makes a ton of sense and when you look at the a line up, you can see a lot of these different small areas and accessory packs that are possible and as you said, it's it's really about kind of taking the the big areas which might be the the seat pack, the frame pack and handlebar role, and augmenting them as necessary depending on the duration of your trip. Yet you caught right there and you know. 00:10:02 - 00:15:13 A mixture of smaller packs, a larger number of smaller. One Big One it also helps to organize if you've just getting into one, they kind of a really large pack trying to find that one small thing you need it, it can be a bit difficult having things more organized into lots of small places can sometimes help you up. Yeah, absolutely. So going up a little bit onto the handlebar now, there's a couple of different style bags that you guys offer. I had previous experience with kind of a role side bag. which until I went to a larger handlebar, my gravel bike, it actually wouldn't fit on my gravel bike with a kind of forty four centimeter bar and to your point earlier, I would sort of focus a lot of stuff that I wasn't going to need during the day. So I might put my sleeping bag in there because I was always a bit conscious of the weight on the front end of the handlebar just in terms of the effects of the steering. Yeah I completely agree with that often myself this is exactly what goes that my sleeping bag up a baby bag or Top shelter in here. It's a thin you WANNA be getting into the beginning and end of the rod of getting ended derailing. It because of the shape that you've got that you're quite right their offspring restrictions based on how you've likes out. So Away Hood saw. How Wide Jabbar is sometimes, you'll find different shifts with a different amount of fro on that Liba when you shifting can affect this as well. So it's always best to to really check those before what when setting a backup you'll find most people's packs similar to ours have kind of that role feature on that allows you to just the the. Width of what you're putting it on most things are going to put American principal. So you can really shaped up to how you want it. I do think I do think that the size restrictions on these bikes is actually super positive thing because I. Think new bike packers have a tendency to try to bring everything in the kitchen sink with them and. Being forced to edit is so crucial I found in getting a bike that still writable and just getting the minimal amount of gear that you need to have to be safe. Yeah you're entirely right. I mean we say here Super Light. It is we spend a Lotta time trying to make as light as we can, but some of the biggest weight savings just the up in there. So the the biggest savings on the stuff that gets left home when send your bike things, you don't really need. Yeah and I think when we talk about handlebar bags, there's definitely arranged right there's obviously like the sort of the expedition style pack which is trying to carry as much gear as possible but there's also smaller packs which I've talked about on the podcast before and You know in the wintertime just having a small handlebar bag can be super super useful location for your extra Jackie, your gloves and a little bit of food. Yeah Yeah I agree with that. Kind of the maximum space that we can really use a areas something probably in the twenty liter range and that's on a ball. You know it's really wide like a real flat drop. Well, maybe even a flatbed depending on your up and then yeah, we can go right down to something a lot smaller. Those kind of the smaller Bob it's opening. Really, good for grapple as you suggest that kind of. Semi accessible I call it kind of one on clipped accessibility where you could just put that one Riyobi's from the bike and grab a jacket or bar something is, is it really useful spun? You can still. Get that benefit even when you go into a full packing south by using an accessory pocket or another Pao Chung from of that. Any brands that have a similar approach Abbott. Let Lil extra. Accessibility is important things you might want to grab on the road. So I think it's a great time to be having this conversation as a lot of parts of the world they're going into winter time and just the idea having a a little bit extra storage capacity somewhere on your bike for an extra jacket or vaster gloves can really adds to the comfort level is slipping back a little bit on the bike. Another popular area is that top tube pack for. Kind of power bars, maybe holding your phone little bit small amounts of food for those of you who have stared down at the two bolts on your top tube and scratched her head as to what the heck. Therefore they're really for these top two packs that can add just a little bit to the to the bike. Yeah. This is a this is a fantastic was any ride to be honest And it's great. We're seeing so many more people. Deciding to to carry hit. This Israeli for the things that you normally putting your jazzy pockets. But maybe if you're riding gravel with a little bit more room, you don't want to be reaching behind and riding one hand trying to dig out own or never energy bars a this is a much basketball. You can instantly grab it. You can see what you're carrying multiple different sizes options out there depending on whether he'll balancing lightweight or you once it's fully waterproof all like mentioned, you want some of the used bolts on the top of your bike extra ability that was actually one of my first piff unease of bags on the bike for gravel and I. 00:15:14 - 00:20:03 What You said is spot on when you're off road reaching back to your pocket becomes more difficult. So having something in front of you while you're on a sort of a bumpy climb that you can unzip or flip flop over and just grab some food or any item, you need quick access to as really been a game changer for me really enjoy that I've stopped using it a little bit in as I've moved to the next bag I wanted to talk about, which is sort of the the quarter or half frame bag. Can you talk about that type of bag how it attach is and maybe the storage capacity those bags offer. Yes sure Yeah. Experience that she very similar deals. Sa-, this kind of pack occupies the Front space of your frame triangle I refer to Lisa's of like a wedge. The key thing with this kind of packing there's it's not size Pacific your bike. It still allows you to run water bottles have access just normal typically in this space on the bike, we can give you somewhere between two full elitist spending. What kind of a self you've them what kind of patchy get that's about double. What you get from atop cheap pack the cool thing about the easiest that really really stable typically be connecting to your down tribute talk to you potentially around your head chief as well which means that just lock in there that really out the way. Completely clear of your knees. However, you writing doing Yeah I'm for me I quite honestly mainstay time. Now this there's no downside to it. It works equally well, completely full or empty So yeah. If you put on that sped up and eat snacks then left with. Any Yeah I already skipped over that one. I'm glad you brought that up because that's one one that I haven't used personally kind of the smaller right up to the front bag I jumped right to the quarter frame bag going all the way to the seat tube Yeah. Yeah. So I think I think that's a great point because. And that's that's the takeaway I think for the listener is kind of look at the range of bags. Your favorite supplier has if you go to the APP Adora site, you'll see all these different things and you'll start it'll start to click in your mind. Oh, that would be a good combination maybe it's a atop to to bag and this little bag or a different seat bag or handlebar bag, and you start to piece together the storage capacity that you need for your style of writing. Yeah, that's quite right and if you find pox that really worked fuel kind of epic on a day rights and then you want to take up something a bit further and it's just a matter of. adding. Something small you. If you beginning packs with the idea, feel one weeklong trip year you'll you wouldn't have as much use some time. Yeah I'm I'm frankly probably guilty of carrying too much stuff on the daily just because I have that full of length of the top tube quarter frame bag on my bike but I, just love the convenience I don't really have to think about editing too much my gear I just have a full repair kit in their plus jacket an extra gloves almost every ride yeah. Yeah this is a great. It's a great kind of pop going all the way back to that a seat cheap the the other benefits you know when you are the longer trips is that things tent Poles that they can start working in that when she using the full length, your top cheap. Depending on how big your bike is. You have to stop thinking about how you're going to carry Walter this point if you're in a smaller bike, you may have to use kind of bowl cage relocated or consider using a small all even side entry cages just to make sure that you still access But yeah, for most people, this kind of offering packed like that. Isn't again, the Weber much is going to give you storage capacity up to about about five liters depending frame size. Yeah. Let's point actually I did move to those kind of side mounted or side accessed bottle cages to just accommodate two water bottles on my medium size frame and not style bag. The other thing I want to point out is I've sort of eliminated for my daily rides, any other type of bag on the bike so I'm no longer using a seat bag. Or handle bag when I have that what I call the quarter frame bag I think you're referring to it at the half frame bag when I put that on I just kind of consolidate everything into it and I do enjoy the kind of clean aesthetic look to it, and also the knowledge that with some smaller bags whether it's reattaching seat bag or handlebar bag I sort of dramatically open up from a percentage perspective what I can carry. Yeah. Yeah. That's quite right and. You know moving away from storing stuff under the saddle does not more options. 00:20:03 - 00:25:02 The drop opposed spoke essentially lot mud gods. Just, nodding your hands in their way, you often get Plus. Lots more, snacks. Exactly, now let's move onto the big guy something I've never personally owned the full frame pack. So that's that's something that's occupying almost the entirety of the area and the main triangle of your frame. But as you alluded to earlier from kind of a weight distribution perspective, getting a lot of your geared down in that area is super important in terms of ride quality. So can you talk about full frame packs and how you see them being used? Yeah. Full frame pack is is actually one of those packs a often people on. If. They end up using one and kind of take the plunge. It becomes when the favourite packs the me this is the kind of gear that you'd be thinking Abou- If you're doing a multiday right the the main advantage chairs that you're really maximizing all space in that triangle if you think about it autism bowl cage, pretty inefficient way of filling that kind of triangle shape if if given a triangle using two cylinders the best. Way To use it a lot. So completely filling that that frame shape with pack and then being able to carry water in there should way something like a bladder. Just pulled out you camelback still down low means that you get so much more storage device and you carrying on this to really close the bump bracket, which is gonNA mean you're handling it. Some isn't an impenetrable load and I noticed on your pack you've got to Zipper access points are actually a divider in there somehow Yay on on our pipe steroids, such a removable dividers. So depending on how you'll get up You can have that kind of shelf in that. It's something all us us used lower-half. Eva For yeah. For Water. Glad. Like I said, will temporarily the tools down this heavy spats. If it didn't along trip and you may be expanding that repack role kind of situations that repressed oats and ten polls and stuff then took it can quickly grow and having it can of low and stable down there a good spot for it, and then the shelf Bisi means that you have that that frame packed the Joe using on the top. So you can just use that achy normally. Would you also have? cable ports there. So if you are running a bladder, you can run a hose out if you're using it to store batteries to power lights or your GPS, then you can run cables in and out. Okay. So if you're if you're running a bladder, the the hose of the bladder can actually run interior until the top where there's a port to kind of it to come out. Yeah. That's that's quite right. So you know it's moving onto a pretty pretty full like packing up at this point that if you re looking to maximize the space blog than the full impact snakes where to go, I was playing around with a bladder in my quarter frame bag and it got stuck on kind of what to do with the tube as it was kind of dangling around and how to make that kind of you know most efficient and and safe. Frankly can you talk about how people deal with the tubes once they're coming out of those packs? Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's actually something that's really developing a lot. We didn't see even a couple of years ago. So often sing it more and more start lining racist now. At tends to be people using magnetic solutions to manage that cheap. So the quasi companies that will make it kind of hose management, kind of little clip that would normally on a rucksack with something like that and we seen people taping it to that Baas or using it. I'm for the straps of their other like packing setup settlers a mind on I, run a small clip through one of abstracts. Around, my stem holding a food pouch or something and then yeah, the hose just flips amount of grab it when I need, you see a lot of people will he'll use a era extensions really long already false ride search with the up was it allows them to just rest on their elbows drink power and along. Yeah. That makes sense now. Thanks for. Clarifying that a little bit I was kind of scratching my head and I knew there's Probably. Someone had a solution out there, but I eventually just gave up and. Put the put the cages back on. Yeah. Well, it's. Like. Backing you have to kind of adapt and overcome. You get these kind of strange problems. Come up you have to kind of think of it sideways. Yeah the yeah. So shifting back towards the back of the bike, we now have the the saddle pack and I remember my first proper bike packing saddle pack. It was I opening to me how much stuff you could get in there, and also how well these bikes can still ride fully loaded. So let's talk about the big saddle packs offer. 00:25:03 - 00:30:01 Yeah. Yeah. I mean the saddle pack Israeli the kind of the. Piece of packing luggage. Again. It's can workers any bill bikes Being held by having to a rackl nothing about the space that we'll saddle packs old away from five years up to seventeen leads depending on what kind of riding doing. And this space is really flexible the best advice is again to try and get the heavy stuff to bracket. So tools knows that settled pack bring it was the center. The bike is going to result in a more stable Jack I'm handling and then software up in there as also conform better. So I'll look at clothes. In the I'll have my kind of wash kit maybe in the nose and then potentially. Mother Lot clothing leads I might want to grapple whilst on the ride still easy to access this One phone clipped inside the road. It's not stuff that's necessarily locked away the whole world everybody. I had purchased one of these bags and then a buddy of mine at work had asked to borrow it. So I gave it to him and he gave it back to me at work one day and I had been in a routine of carrying everything on a backpack in a backpack. With my sort of. Ten Mile Commuter Fourteen Mile Commute into San Francisco, but I happen to have this bag at the office one day. So I shoved everything in it and it was like a light bulb went off and. Kicking myself for having this thing in the garage, most of the year and not using it for my commuting because it's it's I mean, it's very clear when you think about it but it was quite easy to to have a full set of spare clothing whatever I needed and just kind of roll the back down more tightly than I would sort of having a bike packing setup, but then I. had. All the convenience of having nothing on my back and having the bike ride well in the commute. So I you know after the quarter frame bag I highly recommend getting one of these saddlebags into your stable just because it can have utility much beyond you know a big back bike packing trip. Yeah. Yeah. You'll. You're exactly right that and generally with these pat stat adjustability is is a real bonus. Typically you can rollaway about half the capacity of the park. So no big biggest pack of some seventeen leaf is you can easily get rid of off that Vice and sin good compressive rolling and make it kind of flexible place stuff. Yeah I'm the the handling impact isn't isn't as great as you might imagine, you know the the bike is designed to have a lot of white in the saddle already. So just putting a little bit more behind that. Doesn't really affect it too much to. Especially if balance still allow just sets up with a few. around the bike. You can really have a very neutral handling. Still carry carry. The I really like what happened in your lineup because a lot of us might think of a saddle pack. That's where you have a spare tube and your repair kit etc, and it's it's quite small, and then we started to have this vision of a we've seen these bike packing bags but with your racing saddle pack, it's kind of the best of both worlds where it's got, you know certainly a lot more capacity than a basic tool bag it's got the rolltop functionality but. It's not this massive thing. So if you're looking for something to just pack like a puffy jacket on for a winter, ride the descent I think that racing south pack size looks super useful. Yeah. You're quite right again, the the racing series really came from a lot of a fast the kind of support friends who really you know really rolling away all the capacity even of our smaller packs while other series, they really wanted something smaller lighters they were using really minimal setups. So that's where the development came from but it's ended up being more useful for the rest of us even even derides in similar having just five Lee is behind the saddle really isn't going to impact you much until. It's really lightweight pack talks right out the way not gonNa have any impact on your peddling position up just like you said, you can. You can really increase the of the Kinda gave the occurring and be ready for for more things and take them challenging writes. Yes. If you're not jazzed perhaps on the visuals of how a quarter frame pack looks or maybe as you mentioned earlier, you're riding a small frame that would necessitate you not having bottles on the bike going with that kind of racing style rear repack I think is a super useful alternative. Absolutely and you know it's not. It's not one of the really massive ones. You've maybe seen on full packing. It's not going to hold you back in Sam's white or nothing like that. Yeah. Exactly and I have to say for for those you unfamiliar with APP Adora over to Adora Dot, com, and not only peruse the sort of various bags that they have to offer because I think it will again spark your imagination as to what's right for you. But check out the ambassadors page. 00:30:02 - 00:35:04 You may recall that I interviewed Jenny tough a few months back and she was talking about her use of the dirt bags on her all her expeditions including that. Spectacular. Story of the Atlas Mountain Race. Zero. You know for me I. Love. Geeking, out I may never do something like the Atlas Mountain Race but I love reading these stories and again, it will just shed light on how people are using these packs and how durable they are, and frankly how capable the bike you have in your garage is for this type of expedition. Yeah. Absolutely. You you just a couple of packs away from having the really ride ride anywhere and say that is embassador on our over friends. So important in developing the scare you know we designed pox here in London and it's it's not like we can kind of. Cross mountains in our lunch breaks contest out the function. So we really rely on the Community of friends embassador to be putting up protesting, and that means sending them to. All over the world where people are going to take on the next big challenge we really need all our fool it ends up on our website to. been doing multiple multi week trips to to make sure it's up to standard and an friends are absolutely crucial in that. Yeah. It's a Lotta Fun, is a couple other things. One thing that you guys came out with I, think just this year was that expedition down to pack and I think this falls in the category obviously of like if you've exhausted every other location, this is a neat way to carry things but I just thought it was cool that you've created kind of durable role sack that can essentially attach anywhere on the bike. Yeah. I mean, we didn't realize that could attach anywhere until people started doing it. And then it turns out that people have a lot better ideas than us. Yet this is this kind of came around in response to what we've been doing for while anyway that that space onto the bump brock is a great space to carry something heavy. You don't need very often been strapping. A stove or an extra wool, a bottle using duct tape and. Wire and stuff to make another bowl catch down there for a number of years. So the jumps don't you make some things specific. There was some was really good. It means you can get that kind of. The benefit of having a third wall cage down that what you look box now coming with a on any bike, and you can use that space something that isn't just won't This is a perfect spot. Kind of mole will see toolkit for for an expedition or long ride and it gets it right out the way. Olek areas fully Walker's expedition series I will accept packing get on the market. So even though into the spot where it's GonNa have a pretty hard time with elements everything that's going to be driving you. Yet I think the thoughtful part of the design here is that the cylinder shape is edited down. So it's not going to become to Bulbous to affect you know pedaling with your cranks or get in the way retire there, and that's that's important. You know obviously, there's a lot of great hacky ways of attaching things to your bike, and certainly if you're unable to to purchase any of these things hack away, that's the beauty of gravel and the beauty of adventure cycling but. When you do work with a company that sort of thoughtful in sort of the proportions you do get these really nifty pieces. Yeah. I thought I'd got away from. Boston bracket dramas when I left pikes behind where we get open all the spreadsheets and trump will bracket tops down to make sure that the pack wouldn't get in the way of anyone. Anyone's cranks will ever come a south they were. Using so yeah. Different types. But yeah, we were there get I'm sure the other funny thing we were talking about offline line that you you had shared with me. We talked about how you know when you're gearing up for your bike packing expedition particularly sort of in my case when I've only done a handful of these, I pack everything very precisely and I try to Max out every nook and cranny of my bag capacity. But then at the end of the day I roll up to talk correa and I wanna get a Burrito and a coke and I've got absolutely nowhere to hold it what what would have you guys done to solve that problem Yet yet you describe the problem exactly and it's one. It's one the we had on the better. We got a packing on gear the worse it came we were always telling people to pack seems best base just for this This year, we decided to actually try to design some packs would with allow people to to solve this problem. So yet palpable series of a Mazzetti backpack up is designed for this that Suka palpable miniature packs. You can have one scrunched up in Jersey pocket or in any other space in your bike got straps attached to any spat hog frame and then when you get. Yeah and when you want that big feet up or you can get food and take take it to the campsite. 00:35:04 - 00:40:03 All you know you decide maybe a trip is. For it might be in the beginning maybe a couple of days in that's going to be will be involved in. You've maybe planned to the beginning. You've got extra buy stuff yet to pick up supplies souvenirs anything fancy really, and then when you've eaten drunk fill, you can pack it down to get get out the way your reminds me of the kind of reusable grocery bags that we have in the US that sorta down to less than the size of your fist. It's a similar material I imagine to that but just kind of formulated in a in A. A backpack style so you can carry it easily on the bike. Yeah Yeah, they would definitely an influence. The key one of these is that we were on make more to prove all is proved. So we spent a lot time trying to work out how we can make them fully waterproof and then adapting the fit and size. So they would actually work when you're on the bike. So this this mole structure to the to the shoulder straps to be used to Kinda grocery bags. It's a bit more comfortable carrying. Along the way yeah it's nice. I mean I. Think as an industry kind of moved away from big. Backpacks carrying heavy gear because we've all experienced, how awful that can be to your posterior and your back and say like with all these great bags, you've moved it onto the bike. But certainly, for trip to the grocery store, a six pack of beer and some Burritos, it's great to kind of just be able to throw something that you can safely ride after a long day. Oh definitely. You know we've we've had people send US messages that really enjoying these packs toting coming from kind of a bike packing background. It's all that this little package strapped with about cage or like I said maybe in the Jersey Oak and at the end of a appeal to our road drive with friends like Pasta bursary store not take stuff home robin the. Plastic carrier bag hanging from the draw swinging dangerously to spokes you make your way home exactly now, I think you know I think that's a common thread in our conversation just this idea like once you get one of these bags whatever it is and who's ever at from it really Oh, just opens up a world of possibilities because they're so versatile and the bikes are capable of carrying so much when you need them to. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely and people shouldn't be afraid to go dry stuff out Lots of cool developments of happened in cycling in general grabble most specifically have been when people have kind of left those rules will Rhode Ride ten years ago behind embraced wider ties, smaller wheels likes the can do more things. And I think you know using PACs boxes is part of that. Some people might not like the way. It looks once you've got one of these smaller talk she paco the small frame Paco small saddle pack on there you'd find it so useful. And it's really liberating allowed to do so much more we go riding. That's funny. Match the look of it, and maybe this is sort of something you experience in spades we in the UK in just in terms of the road culture and the aesthetic that's been pushed down our throat for the last thirty years. It is hard to make that shift away from it but to your point once you do. In my case, I was happy to take the flak from my Rhody Buddies because I knew that I had so much more comfort with me in terms of an extra jacket or what have you on my bike? Yeah Yeah you're absolutely right and the unite if fosters your thing then Yeah I a challenge you ticket a jail Lava Jersey pocket as quick as you can get out of the top G. Pack where it's right in front of you and you can still be have your hands in the right list. So true. So true. George I appreciate you geeking out with me on the bags and just kind of giving the listener rundown of all the different things that are possible these days. I'm I'm always super excited to talk bags and I always encourage everybody to just take a look at what's out there and sort of put it on your longer term wishlist because it can be really game changing for your Gravel Comfort. Yeah Yeah yeah absolutely. Great Song to you as well and yeah I mean the main thing here is I, have spoken about you can. Pull it any of your list bugs as well. You know the we're not encouraging people to buy never bike here everyone who's listening to this already has packing bike. So you know with the right combination of Fox from wherever they decide to get them they can. They can have a block that could take a two days weeks months whatever they WANNA do right on. Thanks George. Big thanks George for joining the podcast this week. I, hope you took a lot away from that conversation definitely check out their website to understand everything we've been talking about because I know it can be a little bit hard to visualize how some of these different bags attached to your bike and what they look like but suffice it to say you can find any and every combination of bags you need for just enhancing your daily rides your winter rides, we have to carry a little bit of extra gear to those huge bike packing expeditions. 00:40:04 - 00:40:45 It is all possible with the bike you have I love how? George ended the conversation just reminding us that the bike in our garage is an adventure bike and it can do much more than we think it can. So that's it for this week's pod. Thank you so much for joining us and big thanks to everybody who's been joining the membership program at by me a coffee dot com slash the gravel ride. The support means a ton to me as do your ratings and reviews love reading what you have to say. 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This week's ControlTalk NOW features Ken Sinclair, who takes us on a deep dive through the murky waters of Cybersecurity.  The April edition of Automated Buildings is a must read -- as leading industry experts weigh in with critical insights and comprehensive advice on how to eliminate as many of your vulnerabilities as possible. There is a great framework from NIST. Click Here to Subscribe to our YOU TUBE Channel  Cochrane Supply's Controls-Con, May 2-4, 2019 Detroit's MotorCity Casino ControlTrends 10% Discount Code Available 2019 Haystack Connect, May 13-15, 2019, San Diego, CA EasyIO World Conference, May 19-21, 2019, Amsterdam, Netherlands Our AI transcriber is not smarter than a six year old, so I apologize in advance for any typos and miss spelled words. The following is a presentation and the ControlTrends, Podcasting Network,you're listening to ControlTalk Now. The HVAC and Smart Building Controls , podcast., with the man the myth, the legend Ken Smyres and Eric Stromquist. ControlTalk Now about weekly podcast with HVAC,building automation and Smart Building Control News you can use. Now here's Eric Eric Stromquist: Alrighty. All right man. So cool. What Kenny man, big week. I know you stay busy. I stay busy, man. Roscoe went on in the business world. I think anybody in our industry knows to just kind of like a business has just fallen out of the sky man. It's like how many buckets can you pick up? You know, everybody's scrambling to get the job done and keep up with it. It's keeping us busy. It's a good thing, you know, probably not last forever, but hey, while it's happening, let's enjoy it. Right. I think Ken Smyers: totally right. I think we've come to a, an intersection where the, the, some of the hard work, the pioneer work, the, the, the planting of the seeds so to speak. And then the technology is finally coming into, uh, you know, the, the various modular levels that are affordable. They're understandable. And they're, you know, the ease of installation. And so I think it's a good time, uh, economically too. There's money is available. I know when you talked primarily about HVAC and building automation, you go into certain markets like the mush market, Hospitals, universities, schools, hospitals, and commercial real estate, you know, and the GSA. But uh, you know, the truth of the matter is, is that we've done a lot of due diligence on this and we've proven without question that if you take steps, you know, you fix your worst problem first with the technology. And we've had some amazing products come to being easy. Io came up with the, uh, the FG 32, I think that was one of the mainstays. Then you had to Honeywell, LCB has connect. Then you had the Johnson controls Verasus uh, you know, and you got links spring coming out with the five 34. You have the edge tend to device series coming out from Tridion on. And so all the major manufacturers and vendors out there to provide solutions have taken some of the major product platform and scaled it down so that it can meet the markets that need it the worst. And that's those 50,000 square feet and below. And so, uh, as you know, we keep track of doe and they tell us that there's a, there's about 75% the 80% of the buildings after this still need some love and care and some building automation. Eric Stromquist: So I think what's going to happen with that, and again, at ControlTalk Now, we try to give you control news you can use. So I think if you're planning your strategy now, it's like when the business is falling out of the sky, your strategy nowadays, he'd be just, how can we, how can we capture that business and take it and make money on it? But you will remember this conversation where the man, the myth, the legend told you that 70% of those smaller buildings don't have anything in someone. The economy dries up. You can put together a strategy and go after that. And of course we've got so many great products, companies are coming out with products to address that segment of the market or anything for viruses. Kenny talked about the Honeywell LCBS, well you look at EASY IO, it's great for that race to the small space. and LYNXSpring has a great offering. Ken Smyers: Optergey and LoyTech. I mean we're just, we're seeing the, that we're seeing a lot more. I decided I was going to do, hey Eric, one more time. Could you do that thing you did there about the, you were catching things falling from the sky because you reminded me of somebody. You mind me a Julio Jones. There you go. Eric Stromquist: Oops. Drop it. Manna from heaven baby. Yeah, Manna from for sure. Well listen man, we got a great show this week. Let's go ahead and get our first guest on and then we'll, we'll take care of some business after we getting a motto. How about introducing him? Kenny sounds great. Is the first of the month and you know what that means. Ken Smyers: I sure do. It it that Ken Sinclair from automated buildings have come up with another fabulous addition. Uh, we're going to be bringing Ken Sinclair, owner, editor of automated buildings.com, On to the show. Welcome to the show Ken and tell us about your April edition. Welcome, Ken. Ken Sinclair: Thank you very much. Really pleased to be on a controlled trends. Uh, yeah, our, uh, our April fool's issue is going to come online April 1st, but we all got fooled. And the fact that, uh, I wrote an article for connected contractor that basically linked to the bulk of the articles and uh, it was supposed to go out on Thursday and surprise. It came out on Wednesday. So I'd left us scrambling to, to make sure that all the links were, uh, as, as need as they could be. So we had a release then and a, we're in a situation that we can kind of release that side of it. And I gave you a little piece of artwork and a, an actual article that you can link to that it'll take you to most of the cyber securities. So where this all came from, his Anto, uh, came to me and he had done quite a successful, uh, cybersecurity a session at Ahr Atlanta. Uh, he asked me what he should do and I said, it's way too late. Don't even try and do it. But he ignored me and, uh, and uh, cobbled it together. Uh, it ended up being at seven o'clock in the morning, uh, which actually turned out to be a blessing because everybody who came to the cybersecurity session actually made it. Anybody who waited to come on the bus was stuck on the freeways and mix ms most of our other sessions. So it worked out really well. Anyway, from that, uh, that was sort of the first gathering of a lot of cybersecurity folks and he suggested that we do an issue and we chose April as a month to do that issue. And, uh, I'm, I'm extremely pleased. Uh, uh, it, it makes you realize the giants that we actually work with in the industry. And, uh, if you just flip through their articles, I got to admit, I just learned a whole bunch about the cyber security. I've always been kind of concerned about it, that cybersecurity has the potential of a mobilizing us and uh, I, I feel better about that now. They all seem amazingly enough, although there's five, six, seven articles, uh, all coming at it from different directions, they actually mostly all embraced nurses. Uh, a framework which is great. So we have some commonality. Uh, I just a whole lot of stuff and it's, I think it's going to be a great resource for our industry and uh, I think also it's going to be useful for other industries and it will, uh, it kind of gets our message out, uh, to, to cybersecurity is as general, it maybe identifies us more as it thinking people and helps with that transition. We all have to make really nice job on in Canada. I think this is that this is the edition that you want to print out and save because I think this is going to be something you can use for sometime to come. But anyway, Kenny, I'm sorry for interrupting there. Ken Sinclair: No, that was great. Wedge in on that is the, uh, mark made that comment. He said, this is looking good. We should make this into any magazine and a really the issue, the way we index everything and automated buildings is we never throw anything away. We have our very first issue is still online from 20 years ago, so this issue is Sabre. We'll say cyber security issue will be online for now for for as long as I I chug on. I'm going to talk a little bit about that later in the show. Well, hang on real quick and I guess it one more thing is we've got an April fools coming up. Can I got an April fool's joke? You should play on the community, so on April 1st you should publish that, that republish, that one from 20 years ago just for the, and just see how many people pick up on it. Then you can put that other one back home. Believe it or not, most of the, most of the words are bang on. We haven't really achieved much. We've been talking about a lot of this stuff for a long time. It's pretty, it's actually pretty bad actually. Some of it is. I've actually been doing that in a lot of my writings. I've been taking something from 2015 years ago and it reads great. Well, you know, can I think that shows that you're a precocious back 20 years ago, I think you were when it was first minds in the business, they're really truly took uh, you know, began to document and archive what is likely to come and why and why it's necessary, why you gave us good foundation and you know, you say you gave us where we're at now, where we're going, where we're going to be. But um, you know, the, the way you started off the April edition was you said that, um, I've avoided discussion and the past cybersecurity understanding, highlighting to potential security and privacy concerns can paralyze us for 20 years. We have operated in the wild west manner. And I think that that's, that's exactly right. And I think within this last two years, maybe a year for sure, the compression of seriousness that regard now the adoption, everybody knows their response. Where is a co Co effort, you know, we need to cooperate and collaborate to get things done quickly with cybersecurity. But I mean, just kind of in your mind when you think back, like, uh, was back that for instance, we really didn't have that threat. So I mean, it could have been the wild west and it could be, you know, just, you know, we were naive, but again, the world was different then and I think some of our protocols and stuff. So what's your thoughts on, you know, did you ever have an idea that somebody would penetrate your back net network 20 years ago? Yeah, I think you'll, we were safer back in those days, in the 20 years ago because I think the problem came is when we, uh, started to depend heavily on the Internet and we started to develop a web controllers and all of our devices started to have IP addresses. So what happened is we kind of walked across the floor and we became it people, but not really, uh, identifying ourself in educating herself as it people. When you talk to somebody like Scott Cochrane, he understands that real clear and he's all of his new folks. He's hiring are coming from an it orientation. And I think that's kind of where we're at. I think that's how we kind of created a mess by just, we took the quickest way and I think it was necessary because we needed to prove to our industry that this, it was serious stuff. Ken Smyers: Even doing it badly. Uh, it was amazing what we could do. So now I think we used to have to back up a little bit and clean it up, but my comment was is we have really achieved a lot and we, there's holes systems. Uh, you were talking earlier and in a boat, uh, easy ios session in Amsterdam and easy. I do. I always, one of the companies that was quick to basically move into an Iot, uh, environment and actually almost leave our, uh, you know, so I would call it, flag them as one of the leaders in this. But now we have to kind of go back and take a look of what iot rules are doing. How are we going to make all of this stuff safe in that I have a tremendous concern that if we make too many fences, we're going to be the people behind the fences. That's gets too complicated. And uh, so we have to kind of keep that Claire Claire and I was just extremely pleased with all these talented, uh, cyber security experts that wrote for us. Uh, it, it kind of reads like the WHO's who of a cyber security for our industry and uh, that they all are focused on the Nis, uh, model of cybersecurity and uh, and basically identifying the, the five components of that. And so that's, that's just a great feeling a whole lot better. Uh, my concern, my concern got answered in the, uh, in the, uh, article and actually then at the end of it I just added some stuff just a few minutes ago. It's the trouble with my articles. You think you're finished reading them and then they add another paragraph and added the a a paragraph about the charter trust that Siemens is working for with, and they're there, the Europeans are, are, are sort of way ahead of us, although I'm very concerned that they, they could fence themselves in as they, as you start to, as you start to protect our human rights and protect, uh, our products. Every time you put protection around something, it makes it less flexible and less usable. So they're two opposing forces that we have to kind of deal with. Give me an example of being fenced and cause you use that term, but can you give me a for example, um, for example at which, oh, I see. Um, well just at the same, the thing is so secure. Like the simplest thing is that you have to sign on to everything. And if, uh, if I had to sign on to comfy every time I wanted to use it, that would make it useless. And if I had to, if I had to, every time I went into a building, if I have to give permission so they can use my Bluetooth beacon, mobilizes us idea of the technology, gets it, gets stopped with the so much friction that it would be, you wouldn't want to use it anymore. That's right. And I think there's that potential exists. So I think we have to always be, you know, I am, but what is the reality of it? I have no problem with sort of limiting the amount of information that can be taken off of, uh, an iPhone or Dapa off a mobile phone. But to the proper, the proper manner would be is that it would stop you at the door and say that, you know, it's the whole thing with every website now that's warning you that it's using cookies and you can't, you can't move on the website unless you click on it that you accepted to use cookies. So it's like, do I really need that message? Change your password every time you log on and you can't keep up with your passwords. I'm flock out of so many of my sites for that very reason that I can't remember the password because it made me change it. And then I do three times and then it goes through this massive reset and then you gotta come up with another password and then I just go, okay, I'm not going to be on Facebook anymore. Yeah. Well actually I am running that same thing. Yeah. The thing I've done, I just given up remembering my passwords and I actually, every time I sign on I have it send me a new password. Wow. It's just simpler. And actually for some of it, maybe they've achieved their goal cause maybe that's the most useful. Uh, you know, did you change your password? I had to get it on cause I couldn't remember what it was. Well, you know, they're going to fix it that one day. Ken Smyers: I think, uh, you know it. Then you have that big trust. You've got different people like Google and Microsoft and they'll remember all your passwords for you and then they get to hear that and they get caught. You go to and Ken, I, I thought he came up with another one. I wanted to, I want to make this a, this might be the same when we write something about it. You said that we all take, we all have taken the path of least it resistance. I think that's exactly right. I mean, we all did just what you had to do. I remember the early days we just added for, we asked for two ports. You get me on the network and you worry about it and if I create a problem for you, I didn't mean it. Whatever. So, um, yeah, I mean you said too that the WHO's who of of cybersecurity from our building automation and HVAC industry. You're absolutely right. I go through this, the names here and I missed Fred Gore you the first time because I thought initially and he's, he's like right up at the top that, do you have a Anto? You got James Lee, you have Fred Gordy, you have Marc Petock, Ping , and you have Teresa Sullivan. You have just, just how many Kevin Smith's different CTO from treatment. How did you get all these people involved so quickly that you could put this together in a monthly addition? I mean, it's, this is a lot of network. Ken Sinclair: Well, I got to, uh, Anto helped a lot, but as I mentioned that a lot of it, a springboard off of the, uh, cybersecurity session in Atlanta. And actually that whole session is on the new deal site, actually is as much information as there is on the surface. There's, there's two documents. There's, uh, a report I wrote to try and put pictures and English subtitles to all of their complex articles and then linked to their articles, sort of give you some, uh, so you can get up merge and get up to ramp speed trying to get your mind around all of this. And then secondly, uh, Anto and I did a discussion, just a, it's like an interview, but we did it in the form of an article and we basically talk and link to each one of their things and sort of talk about the evolution. Uh, and of course this'll, this'll also get fed back on the new deal, uh, website that, uh, uh, okay. Anto maintains as well. Uh, symmetrics has been a real supporter of this. Uh, and Oh, the other one you missed. Uh, the other fame to more famous people are, uh, James Butler basically talks about the new, a BACnet, BACnet secure, I believe it's called, and an Ping of Optigo Hook, Ping Yell. And then I miss Deb Noller and, um, Jim Butler, Simon. But I just definitely, but it's an incredible lineup. You're quite right. I, I too was impressed and a, I think what happened is that is once, once they found out that somebody was writing, uh, was easy, when I reached out to them and told them this was our cyber security issue and we have some pretty good traction, then I think they, uh, they wanted to be part of it. They wanted it to be identified as a part of the solution. But the amount of information there is just phenomenal cause you, you click on any one of those, uh, industry experts, you get down to their site and then they give you their links and then their links give you more links. So from, from this, uh, I'm really proud that from this one page or this interview, you can, you can probably even go down the rabbit hole. Yeah, you could read for two weeks. But the good news is, is when you start reading it, there starts to be some common themes and some common cautions. And, uh, it's not like everybody's saying, uh, you know, do it my way. And that's, that's what the holistic cybersecurity is, is that we've got to do this as a group. We've got to do this as a, uh, a community of practice. And of course, that was our last thrust and it fits really well into this. And in fact, at the end of our, of the article, we actually identify a whole bunch of communities of practice that are, uh, that are, are, uh, are accurate, are evolving for cyber security. Right? Right, right. No, I like that. Conceptr, but that was it. Was that a Therse Sullivan a concept? Yeah, actually that Atlanta was pretty significant for us. We're saying, we're still talking about it. Uh, um, we did the, uh, it was called the evolution of a automation from ether net to emotion, our session. And we basically went back and we talked about, you know, the overview that we had prepared. And actually this is going to be part of my keynote at control con is that, so I've been 50 years in the industry, uh, 20 years of that is automated building. And, uh, so what, what does the old guys see? Well, what the old guys sees is that we went through a whole lot of technologies on our way from pneumatics to AI, but, uh, the only constant is the people. I mean, there's pets. He's there in the beginning and he's still there in the end. Leaves there in the beginning, uh, the beginning of backnet them and James Lee in San Francisco and the first backnet integration with train that gotta be 30 years ago or something like that. Ken Smyers: Uh, all of this stuff is, has radically changed, but these people are still there and the people and their communities of practice are, well, it's kind of keeps us moving forward. So I'm kind of intrigued by that. And of course, uh, the, the events that are coming up, we're all kind of part of and they become our community of practice events. And uh, certainly that's a ControlsCon is certainly one of those events. The next one that I actually used as an example in that article is aHaystack Connect because HaystackConnect grew. You guys were there in the beginning, you saw how it grew and you saw where it's grown to today. And it is certainly a community of practice when you actually attach yourself to these communities of practice. There's so much information and so much resource because there's very talented people and we're all working on a common theme. And the other thing that comes is communities of practice beget communities of practice because once you start working with this, we've got an absolutely new field. Um, maybe like a camera AI or something like that that we're moving into. We don't really know anything about it. The fastest way we can get from zero to, uh, highway speed is how along the ramp is basically catch on to a community of practice and join them and basically look for a while, find out what the heck they're talking about. And then eventually we'll get up to merge speed and we can actually drive along highway with them. Yeah, it makes so much sense. Can I'll begin by just going to go it alone. And this sort of gets back to a concept that a, either you or Kenny coined about the Co- competition, Speaker 5: whatever it is, co option. All good, Eric. I'm just don't know which analogy which one they'll get doing the random, in other words, we've always said that it's for our community and for, for the building automation world. HVAC I'm ever you, Eric and I were down with Marc Petock.. We said, where do we go? What's, what's our, what's our course of action? And Fred Gordy came out of, uh, you know, he was the champion and he was working with Billy Rios remember. Uh, yeah. And then next thing, you know, uh, it just started rolling. This big wheel started taking roll. And now looking at this litany, this, this faculty, you know, again, Deb Noller, Jim Butler, uh, ping a poke, Ping Yow, uh, Mark Petock, Kevin T. Smith, Fred Gordy, Anto, but Yardo Vr, Joel and James Lee. I mean, now we've got a faculty and then use that with nest. And we've got real great direction that we've gone from having little, uh, you know, kind of guidance. And what do we tell people? Remember that that checklist we hung up on the refrigerator with Fred Gordy. We put his, uh, 10 best things to start a cybersecurity if I get an internal champion, et Cetera, et cetera. But then, um, so it's really good to see that what you said with the ramp to the highway. In other words, we got people onto that. They can finally get a, onto a ramp and started learning, like you saying, and put, put things into context, you know, deciphered, filtered for themselves and their organizations or whomever their businesses. And then, uh, you know, keep at it to the point where you could get onto the ramp way in, merge onto the highway and be comfortable and be professionally competent in cybersecurity. I think it's a great analogy and I think he had a lot to do with Ken. actually Scott Cochrane and I had been fooling around with it as well. And uh, uh, my comment to him as I was appreciating what Scott was doing for me cause he was, he's, he's pushing me along the, uh, along the merge ramp and uh, he wants me to get up to speed before I hit this uh, conference because, so I don't become roadkill. But they, then they, then they were very polite. They re they redefined me as the road warrior. Eric Stromquist: I like it. What, do you guys ever hear of a book called think and grow rich by Napoleon Hill? Yes. Okay. So you know what it reminds me of Ken, and I'm rereading the book is as you know, cause he interviewed Andrew Carnegie and all these people, the successful traits of people that are successful in the top in their field. And one commonality they had as they all had a mastermind group of likeminded people that weren't what they would bounce ideas off of each other. And you know, part of Carnegie's thing was it no mind, no matter how good it is, can capture and understand fully. So, you know, it's almost like these centers of practice are also run me a lot of Carnegie's mastermind groups. Ken Sinclair: Yup. Yeah, I think so. Very, very much so. Uh, I mean it's a way we organize their life. It's kind of funny that, uh, when, uh, teres definitely I would have to credit her to, to basically putting the words around the community of practice. And then she went digging back into the history of how that kind of came to a play and then she put it in one of her articles and then I've rewritten a whole bunch of other stuff on, on that. And you're quite right, it, those come right from the, uh, from motivation. And, uh, but it's just a quick way and it's certainly, I mean, if you want to learn about anything, if you want to learn about video equipment, I'm sure you belong to sub communities of practice for video equipment. I mean it's, and especially with the Internet, it's just so, uh, probably burnt and, uh, everywhere so we can actually get this information. The other thing we've identified a is in talking to my young guns, my young editors is we, you know, he floated out the question is how did you get so smart? And they all came from various backgrounds. Uh, but how they got smart was they basically educated themselves and they learned what they needed to learn. And that's really the model that our whole industry is evolving on is, uh, it's, it's just so broad that, uh, nobody can tell you what you need to know. You just have to pick a, a threat of it on real quick with that because you know, I think, you know, you, you and I both had this concept of, you know, take a millennial to lunch or whatever. And you know, I've got two mentors, one them moves in his seventies and one of them who's in his late twenties and you know, we've heard him manufacturing, I'm throwing this out primarily for our manufacturers who are trying to train to get traction with people with their products. But you know, we've heard just in time manufacturing, right where you just build it at the last second, but with this cat's about, and what the millennials are about, it's called just in time learning. In other words, if you give them a manual, they're not going to start at chapter one and go all the way through. They're going to hop in where they want to hop in and then they'll go around it however they do it. So, and I think in a way that's a lot better, uh, I think they can get up to speed a lot faster and they're willing to make mistakes along the way. But for guys like me and you and Kenny is like, no, you start on page one and well, you know what the Eric, your, your your point. It's so true. Uh, in other words, we're seeing this, uh, I took a look at some of the new education going on in, in public schools and grade schools, and then we're not a young students are not learning how to write cursive anymore and how it's been antiquated and how it's a, it's a barrier to learning enhancement learning. But if you talked about the community of practice, can, you know, you had, uh, you had, uh, an initiative back when you were doing your collaboratorium that was kind of, you were creating that, uh, that exact community of, of, uh, you know, practitioners that were the experts. And then, and then to your point, Eric, you're absolutely right. Just in time learning. In fact, remember Ken, you did the didactic you were talking to, you were the first person that I read the didactic. Ken Smyers: I said, I just use words. I can't say. Yeah, yeah. You, so you said that what's going to happen is we need to put all this stuff into some sort of forum that's available and it has the archives from a to z and then that anybody that wants to learn really quickly can, can enter any part of that, that 20 year swing that you put onto your website and pull down meaning from it, and then just learn what they need to learn to get by the next thing. And Eric remember, we did a thing with a wearable technologies, how they said it's the only way they're going to keep, you know, to produce results in the medical fields and the gas and oil fields. And now we're gonna see it. You know, building automation is, you're going to have a home base and the rest is going to be camera and somebody at the site's going to be to say Turner wrench to the right. Three quarters turn. Good. Stop. Okay. What's, what's the pressure reading again? Show me, you know, so that that's the way the world's going to work because you just, you won't be, you won't have the luxury of time. So it's more efficient. Right? You won't have electric, can't get a semester's worth learning anymore, you know, so you can't read the preface and the epilogue. You gotta just get to page 38 were, tells you how, but with a point of dinner is made now knowledge a very democratic in its not for the, the fewest for anybody that wants to learn can learn, which is the really exciting thing about it. And so for our community out there thought cybersecurity was out of your purview,Ken Sinclair, begs to differ with you. Just go to his April edition and you can be a cybersecurity cop, Billy the Kid Rios. Ken Sinclair: Good stuff. Okay. The other thing I think we have to look at is we have to look at a ControlTrends.com is definitely a community of practice and a, your company as well, Kenneth and automated buildings is a community of practice. Uh, and it's interesting that, that you go into these communities of practice and then inside of each community of practice is a unique one such as Haystack Connect is inside of that and inside the haystack is a sand star, uh, community. So all these little communities are the mosaic that, that build us. And if you want to get going fast, you have to just, you have to go to the community that you need, you need to interface with to do whatever it is you want. Once you get to that community because they're all online. The other thing you didn't mention about how the young folks learn is that we, uh, they can just send out a blog message and they just ask. They just say, I'm trying to do this. I've read, they always have the politeness that they've read through everything the community has talked about. And somebody said this to even pick up on a piece of that and said, I need more information about that. Then you'd be unbelievable. The whole community jumps in and helps them. They're very collaborative. I think we grew up in a time where we, we kind of, we had to do it on our own and we were very proud of that machiavellian Eric Stromquist: my number, can I, how I'm going to take another step out of it was a competitive advantage to know something somebody else didn't know that Internet changed that. So the youngsters who are coming along, you know, you know, good blind horse, why hoard information, but back when, back in the day, I mean, if you knew how to calibrate something, somebody else didn't, that was your differentiator in business. But knowledge now is, uh, I just keep saying democratic. Can we get gimme the vogue vocabulary word for it, Kenny, that, uh, where it's a ubiquitous or, uh, that was, it's not for the democracy of, of, of what we're doing is basically, it's, it's, Ken Sinclair: yeah, it looks I know what you're saying, Eric. I'll think of it in a second. But you don't see, knowledge is no longer elitist, right? Well, you know, you, you and I went to Scotland at one time and that's where it really hit me the hardest. I mean, uh, the, the way the cat gets out of the bag and the printing press and, and when they said that the one, the rich benefactor for Edinburgh said, I'm going to make everybody learn how to read. And he paid for it and he then suddenly children were learning how to read and write and it went, it went backwards on it. Instead of reading right in the Bible, they became political. They, they came politically unrested but to your point, a printing press changed everything because I had knowledge and, and so I think that was, that was step one. Step two was probably the Internet, right? I mean, wow. That's, I think that's the analogy I was trying to make is that the Internet was designed for certain things and all these processional items you work per session. We have no idea what's going to go. In fact, I was reading an article the other day about apple and some of the other people, uh, they're thinking they've gone to a, met with the president and they're talking about re organizing the United States, his approach to education because we're so we're falling so far behind the world because we're playing all these education process leads to a dead end. It doesn't lead to fermenting exciting people. And they want people to, you know, apple, uh, executives were explaining, if you let these kids play with technology and they take a tech technological path that they're not going to be interested in geography or history, they're going to be at their aptitude, say, let me play with his stuff and learn how to program. So the whole thing is to how do we get more programmers and how do we get that step, you know, the sciences, the technologies, you know, how do we get people involved in anymore like they did back in the 50s when we're having this space race. You know, all of a sudden we produced massive amounts of engineers, mathematicians, physic, uh, you know, uh, you know, PhDs in physics. And, and just, you know, because of the educational process drove in that direction and led to outcomes that we're producing. We're engineers. So we're seeing this come up, uh, you know, our whole Orthodox approach towards education is being, is being reevaluated. Ken Smyers: What about in Canada? Again, Canada, Canada, is it, is educational system really geared up towards the sort of technological revolution? Like, you know, Ken suggestion, we're not necessarily doing the stakes. Ken Sinclair: Yeah. Not where, what's going on in the states, but I'm actually reasonably close to like local school because we've got a granddaughter. It's a great, uh, six and uh, and yeah, they, they use the web a lot. Uh, basically, uh, what's going on is on the school, there's a class website and basically what's going on, who's doing well, what events are coming up. Uh, that's all that's all documented. But to Ken's remark, I wanted to, wanted to just say that when, when we started in this industry, you guys probably had a better idea than anybody cause your fathers were in the industry. So you followed your father's in. But for a guy like me, I mean I'm on the farm. Uh, and uh, it's pretty hard to imagine what I'm going to be when I grow up. And also information is very hard to come by and to try and discover your passion. Uh, it just sorta has to evolve. And you basically, the first job you took had a lot to do with where you ended up working. Uh, now we have the situation that you can spend hours, days, years, uh, surfing the web and you can find something that is incredibly intriguing to you. And then you say, I'd want to be one of those guys. And then you start learning that from the community of practice. So it's, it's kind of that, that thing has been completely reversed. If you think about when we came into the market, what are we going to do? Uh, now the kids can, they, they've all got a good idea what they want to do because they saw something on a youtube that looked pretty fun. Well said. Well said. So tell us some more by controls. Come for a minute because you're going to be a keynote speaker up there. Uh, would you be giving it away if you tell us what you're going to talk about or, or, and if our community have to remind what controls Khan is and why they should go, how by giving the, the sort of the Canadian elevator speech, if you will. Okay. Okay. At Scott, he involved me in this and I, I frankly, I got to go to admit that when he asked me, it was like, you sure you want me? Cause cause it's a, it's a systems integrators, uh, uh, meeting is, that is the gist of it. And every time I talked to the systems integrators, they're doing more than I'm writing about. I, I have this perception that I'm on the leading bleeding edge. And, uh, uh, every time I talked to someone like Jason Hoc, I'll, uh, uh, yeah, I find out a whole bunch of stuff they're actually doing that I haven't even thought of or haven't wrote about. So, uh, I was, I was wondering what I was doing there to get up to speed. So I think what I'm doing there is to just maybe a, explain the, uh, the perception of time, uh, and just the whole, you know, 50 years in the industry who actually seen an industry go from pneumatics to a AI and just seeing all of the people, uh, part of it, uh, I think the other message is, is that we're all struggling, uh, great. Now to extend our best by date because the technology's changing so fast. We become obsolete and moments. And my only the fence for that is to, uh, basically grow younger and I've found out how to do that and how to grow younger is basically to look at all of our problems and stuff through the minds of our young mentors and, uh, who have grown up as digital natives. So I think that's, that's sort of the gist of the message is too dry and do that. The other one that is, I'm, I'm coming around to is the fact that there are a tremendous amount of women in the wings in our industry who have basically been a personal assistance for powerful people. And they have an amazing amount of information in their minds. Uh, and some of them don't want to be mainstream, but that doesn't matter because they can be very useful remote. Ken Smyers: So my reach out the episode is out, uh, this is a potential for our industry. Probably within your companies, you have exactly the same thing as somebody who's been quietly sitting over there in the corner and has been, you know, organizing all these products and stuff like that. They have a tremendous amount of information and they can actually be very quickly on leashed in a AI or a machine learning type of environment and they can be, uh, very quickly get us up to speed. So I think we're all looking for how can we get new people into the industry. So those younger mentors combined with our younger mentors. And uh, and the other comment I always make is anytime I talked to my younger mentors, there are comment back is they say, you should see what these kids are doing. They're looking at the next generation. And these are kids, I dunno, there, I call them digital natives. I don't know what, uh, these other ones are like a digital, maybe digital immigrants, let's call them that. Digital immigrants. They basically come from a world that they don't know. They don't know reality. They never, they've never experienced reality. They've only definitely I to tell you real quick, uh, yesterday I'm driving home from the office, you know, coming home and it's Friday and Fridays are my favorite day other than Saturday his, but anyhow, the phone rings. It's my daughter calling from San Diego, I think. So I hit the button, hello? Hello Lo. Nothing's there. I can hear noise in the background and I'm like, what the heck? You know, so I got a little concerned so I hang up my call her back. And by then she rang regain control of her phone. Her five month old daughter, my granddaughter apparently picked up her phone, not even really picked it up. She said she was like, she was, they hold the phone to her. We do so many of these, uh, you know, whatsapp videos. We get to see credible. And so the technology, I'm like you, I love every day that there's something new going on because I still can't, I pinched myself to think of how crazy, you know, this iPhone is and how to talk to Germany and I pay for it. And it sent a video where after you to take, or to shoot it live, it's just, we got to, you got to do more of it. And, and, but um, you know, five months old tap in the phone because she's been put it in front of her all the time to show, you know, grand the grandparents in Pittsburgh with what's going on. So they do a video. So she's so used to that phone being part of her environment that she's like in front of a phone and then they, we reversed it so she could see what we look like. You know, we keep saying the same thing to her that she could recognize our voices. So, to your point about the digital native, I mean, we have no idea that somebody, uh, as a, as an infant, you know, learning about technology and playing with technology and not reaching for things that they don't have to reach for. , people don't want to get out of their chairs anymore to run over to the thermostat and turn it up or down or turn the fan up to speed or whatever. Or to dim the lights or to close the blinds. I mean, why should they want to just hit their phone and say, you know, boom, up, down, cold or warm or whatever. I mean, and, and to have that mentality when you come into your workplace and to see where we're, you know, state of affairs. And one more thing can I loved you said about the best buy, best sold by and the shelf life. So where do we sit in the scheme of things? We're, we're like the canned goods up on top of it. Shelf, don't eat, don't drink this milk. Yeah, I got a kick out of that. Anyhow. Well. Yeah, I titled, I think I'm going to title my, uh, my keynote is the next 50 years. So as you can imagine, that might be a stretch for me. But anyway, back to the other comment about how the, the digital natives or the, uh, the digital immigrants, I think I liked that. I think we should call these the, the next, the next wave. We've got the digital natives that are pretty comfortable with all this technology, but the digital immigrants are these kids that are coming up now that have they lived, never lived in a real world. They've only lived in the virtual world anyway. When they, they looked at your problem of raising the blind. I mean, the first thing they say, well can't they just talked to my whatsapp and say, what's that blind 50%? And it knows by where I am that that happens. You know, like why wouldn't you just do that over all of this stuff? They don't, the newer group is not the digital Emeris Ted there digitally and titled Digital Trust Fund Babies. But your point, I mean, the more we learn about it in our, our realm, the other day I had to convert a bunch of Celsius to Fahrenheit and I did the old nine over five and I'm thinking, what am I doing? So I just said, Hey Siri, what's 50 degrees centigrade? The set points, you know, whatever, boom. I mean it just came right back to me, you know, told me the degree is 120 degrees or whatever it wasn't and I thought, or 170 whatever. And I'm thinking, why is my brain not letting me access and avail all this technology? Why am I so, you know, determined to do it the hard way. And I think it's just conditioning. So the two year younger mentorship and having somebody aboard, like you were saying, Eric, you know, it's just to remind you that you don't have to do it the old school way, that there's a option and the option might save you a lot of time about energy that you can get more done, more efficiently. So that's kind of cool. And then the kids taking a picture of everything, hey, you'll be writing down a number or something. They saw something you want to buy or something on a thing and, and they look at you and they go click, click. I wouldn't, why, why would you write that down? Right? Why would you do anything? And of course the other thing is, Oh I actually, I got a good story about that. We were uh, we were lost in the train station, then a Roman, our ride was trying to find us and that's what he said. You said just hold your phone up and take a picture of where you are and then I'll know where you are and Oh, you're on the other side of the term when all he said, as soon as we send them a picture. So basically he's on whatsapp and we took here's a picture and then he knew where he worked cause our English or Irish, Italian wasn't that good. But uh, a picture's worth a thousand words. You're on the other side. You're not, you're not on the right side. You said, I'm just going to park my car and I'm going to come and get you. Yeah, I probably at that same spot. You are a canon. Not I want to go there. You were carrying stuff the baby buggy and are no cars. Car seat. What all do you have? I saw the picture that I'm glad I didn't have to do that. Oh Man. I'll tell you what Ken and almost kill me. What their travel with the small kids and my wife's brother, uh, had a destination wedding and then on top of that it was black tie. There was an extra suitcase to carry all the, the black ties and do, it was just, it was nuts carrying luggage around. But anyway, I survived. I'm better for it as Nietzsche said. What your wife does doesn't kill you, will make you better. I can't. So we get, we'll see at haystack we will see you. Uh, obviously a Cochran, uh, April issue is out automated buildings.com. You definitely want to check that out. What don't you got before we hop off here? My friend? Well, I guess we'll all have to put her Elvis Skosh Shims on and go to real calm and Nashville. Right? Eric Stromquist: Absolutely. You're going to be down there for sure. Right? Ken Sinclair: Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't going to, but Scotty talked me into it so, oh man, I'll never forget it. Yeah, I'll never forget the time. It was so much fun and hopefully you'll do this with us again was, well I think the last one I saw you, I was a maybe San Antonio, but remember you and me and Theresa and Kenny, we'd always do our day one, day two recap. So cause we can't you on and being a recap or with this. Sure. That sounds good. Yeah, it looks like a lot of stuff going on there as well. Actually I in my never my never ending article, I also tagged on a uh, their cybersecurity a day before event that's going on as well. Cause I thought that was a kind of fit in, well with this whole cyber cyber security resource. I'm kind of trying to kind of put this thing is it's just a link to where everything that's sort of happening in the industry. And at the bottom of that is I've got these three events we've just talked about as well. So, Hey, I do, I'm going to say one more thing before I forget. Uh, controlled trans for anybody out in it's still not, has not yet signed up for controls con 2019 it's May 2nd May 3rd in Detroit at the motor city casino, we have a 10% discount. If you go on now to the website and you register and you putting controlled trends under the discount code, you get a 10% discount. And also with real calm, I be con 2014, June 11th through the 14th down in Nashville, Tennessee. We also have a ControlTrends.com Discount 10%. Uh, and, and when you register, you put it in and it gives you, actually, you have to go to our website and get the discount code. So I'm sorry it's not, it does not ControlTrends.com Is the ControlTrends discount, but there's a number, a little code you put in there and it'll save you 10% so you want to put that plug in there. Eric Stromquist: Excellent. All right, I can't send ken Sinclair, Automated buildings.com check it out Ken. Thanks so much as always man. We can't wait to see you next month and if you have something in between now and then don't be a stranger. Okay. Alright, thanks guys. Great stuff from Kensen queers always in. Hey Man. Yeah. We even talk about all those other great articles that are on automated buildings.com. So be sure to go to check out automated buildings.com the April issue cause there's a ton of other stuff on there. And Man, speaking of phenomenal stuff, our man Mark Pete Talk, in addition to being the master of ceremonies of the controlled trends towards, in addition to being the guy that broke Cindy Crawford's heart, New York City back in the day in New York City when we got started in advertising now he and the team at Lynx Spring had been acknowledged by frost and Sullivan. Kenny, I've got to get this right so I'm actually going to do, I want to read it. 2019. Global Iot and smart buildings, customer value leadership award. Way To go, Terry Swope. Way To go, Bob [inaudible] way to go. Mark p talk way to go. Everybody at the Lynxspring Group could get group of guys. It's nice to see that frost and Sullivan is acknowledging them. Ken Smyers: Congratulations job. It's, uh, well the, uh, the big phrase to eat, to eat platform provides exceptional service delivery and value enhancements through a well synchronized suite of solutions to ensure timely integration with a smart building infrastructure. And it has earned his stripes and, uh, congratulations to a very successful team with a lot, a lot, a lot of motivation, a lot of passion, a lot of initiatives. So they, they basically took that product platform, uh, from over here, kind of an obscure location to a front, front, front vendor position. And, uh, it's, people are asking for it now. So, and listen for our young guns, you might not know when we talk about Cindy Crawford and mark in the 80s, there was an error of the supermodel, Cindy Crawford, Linda vaginal, sleazy, Naomi Campbell and all that. And speaking of that, you know, I just got a, there's a text on the Facebook messenger here from a see Crawford going, how old are married now? Hey, mark, it's me, Cindy Holler, whatever that means. So mark, you'll just do what that, what you'll do with it. So one more thing. I just want to say that, uh, you know, much of the technology is available through the built environment, depends on systems integrator. So link Spring Pa did the channel of approximately 250 systems integrated partners throughout North America and a few select international countries to support the built environment effectively. So again, well done. Well done guys. Well I'm for sure I Kenny, what's, what's gonna be our deep dive posts of the weakness acres. We've got a bunch of them. Well, I took the uh, but we can only do one. Well I think what we have to do is we have to say that, uh, you know, one of the biggest hit posts that we've ever seen of all time was the two way three way valve diverting mixing and the second largest, uh, post performance was on gas pressure regulators. And you did a nice little, a presentation from the HVAC Tech SChooll from HVAC Tech SChool Play list,. gas pressure pressure regulators made easy. So tell us a little bit about that. I think that was posted the week. Well, thanks buddy. I appreciate that. So we got to go back to what we've been telling our community a little bit that we're really torn up the youtube channel because we get more content up there quicker. So might not always make it to the control trans.com website. But uh, so we, we created a playlist of you will called HVAC Tech School, this on the youtube channel. Some of these make it over to controltrends.com. Not all of them, but yeah, the gas pressure regulators made easy, uh, you know, how to install them, how they work. We actually take one apart so you can look at it, see how it works of your answers and gas regulators at all. And apparently there are a lot of people who do, you can check that out. It's actually on controlled trends as well as the controtrends, smart buildings, youtube channel. So I encourage you to subscribe to that if you haven't already. We'll put a link for that in the show notes. So that's a big one in the two and three way valves. Again, sometimes a picture's worth a thousand stories, a thousand words county. So we know we're trying to create video content that takes some of these concepts that can be complicated and make them really simple and we'll build off of those. So we're going to keep putting those up on the youtube channel and then, well no, a lot of them make it over the controltrends.com Website too. But another massively hit, and this is only available on the ControlTrends Smart Buildings, youtube channel is the midweek review, which uh, one of the smartest guys here on the podcast a does, which is Ken Smyres. So talk about the med review again,Kenny. For our listeners who might know about that and tell them what you do on that and why they, why this is disrupted. He usually do youtube channel so they can get that. Well I appreciate that Eric. I didn't have makeup on a day. There's makeup squad wasn't around so, but you know what I want to be because if you are where big trouble, I was just trying to say something it on there because that was a fast and furious post and the reason why it's like you said, we had so many dates that were coming closer to windows where you had, you know, sign up by today and you look for, or you would forfeit the opportunity for a discount, whatever. So we had the midweek review is to give somebody a three to four minute synopsis of all the industry events that are coming in the next 60 to 90 days except for our Smart Building ControlTrends Awards, which is going to be February 2nd, 2020 but tomorrow when your calendar in case you're driving somewhere and you listen to the show or whatever and you have an opportunity or you're, you're, you're listening or you're watching but you don't have a whole lot of time trying to give people a synopsis, a real short sweet list of what's going on and where it's at and what the dates of signup are. So you know, I covered the, the, the controls con coming up May 2nd, third and we controlled trans as a discount coupon there. So if you go onto and registering, you putting controlled trends, uh, we have the CIO event coming up in Europe and we'll be putting a post up on that too. But there's registrations and you take advantage of them. Uh, we're going to put some other information about the travel costs, whatever, just to lure people into a different alternative vacation this year because you'd kill business and pleasure in the same event. Uh, we have the project haystack out there in California. The, the, uh, what's that going to be? That's the 11th through the 13th, I think. Right. But that's why even I have to refer to it because there's so much going on. And then you go to the 19th through the 21st is the CIO and Amsterdam and then you turn around, you've got a real calm, I become in June leverages, so you're doing the conferences, but you're also doing it. And to Kenny's point, what, what, who is trying to be as on Wednesday afternoon, you can take that, that you can just click on that video, you get an update. But things like if there's a recall, if there is something going on in the industry, if there's a cyber security alert, something going on with Niagara or something like that where you need to know something immediately, what we're trying to do is just make it easy for you to consume. That could control is unique you can use, right? And so Kenny does a great job of that. So it's not just conferences, it could be a new product release, it can be news you could use. And I think that's the point of a Kenny just trying to break it down short, simple, sweet. You go to the youtube channel, you quick on this actually if you did the youtube channel, you just cooked a little alarm button, you'll be notified when this comes out. And uh, so he can hit on that. And then obviously on controlled trance.com you get this show, the long winded version. Well, and then when we take our time and we make it happen, Eric Stromquist: I'll speak into the long winded version. Uh, what can Steve jobs teach us about the smart buildings controls revolution. Now I got to kick of the stretch you made there. But actually after watching that again, cause I had watched that before, you actually did make sense about what it's all about. The marketing, how, you know, it's taken for granted. It's a critical function, but it's changing. It's evolving. It was infused with social media. And if you didn't handle it right, you lost, you lost a lot of your mainstream. Uh, but today you send papers out in the, in memory, so much marketing, it wouldn't even open up the envelope. You literally just took it from your inbox to the trashcan. So those days have certainly changed. The people don't like to take catalogs anymore, whatever. So we were seeing the thumb drive, you know, uh, became the big thing. And even that, starting to, I heard a, a vendor tell a group of people that were looking for, they used to get thumb drives every time they had the presentation. I guess there's no marketing says you've got to go on, go on our website. It's all there. There's no sense putting them into these um, drives. Cause as soon as we get them done, they're obsolete because they're old and antiquated and we've added new products and it's not serving the purpose it was intended to. Well listen, I encouraging of the website is so about a five minute talk that I've found that Steve jobs did and many considerate the greatest marketing message ever and it led to the one what many consider the greatest marketing campaign ever. And like I said, rather than Kenny and give you our take on it. I mean it affected me enough. I just went, holy smokes made so much sense in my, what I'm basically saying is, hey listen to it or watch it. I should sound control with each on comments. We'd love know what you think. But I think there's so much wisdom and just how, cause he's basically addressing his, his stockholders and then staff. Right. And, and it was a radical concept as he's addressing them. And that you kind of can almost hear a pen drop. You're kind of going, well, they're not going to like this. And you kind of starts out and makes a statement and he kind of goes from there and by the time he's done with you, you're going, and this too, just got it right. So it's not necessarily what you think about is how you think about something. And I think that that message carries forward to our industry. Every single one of our companies in our industry, I think can learn something from, from this. So please check it out if you check nothing else on Controltrends.com site and check that out and reach out and comments. Let me know what you think and, and Kenny what you'd think. And Hey, you know, we'd love, we'd love to share it. I thought no, it was, pardon me. Putting that up here is, I think this needs to be not just a post and needs to be an ongoing dialogue and needs used to be a dialectic. There's my vocab word for the week, Kevin, that we carry forward as an industry that, that helps us hall, uh, as we move forward in this incredible industry we're involved all involved in. Ken Smyers: Right. We had one more shoutout section here and just the, our Linkedin, you know, the, the folks that say good things about us on Linkedin and, uh, some congratulations for birthdays, a Adam, I'll pull grab ya from Poland. He's the chief Ito Iot, Bam. B a s P, m, a s h VAC executive, uh, says a, you know, he's watching our controlled trends. We've got Travis curr had a birthday. Uh, he had a art hicks had a birthday. Darlene pope changed job. She now works with the, we work. So, uh, Darlene and Lindsay Baker together. Oh Gosh. Yeah, yeah. Two of the brightest women on the planet together. Whoa man. We want to come to, we works and we've got a worked in Hershey Holler. Well, you don't have to cheat. She was always, she, she, she fast tracked everything. You know, she was really smart. She was just a great speaker. I remember, remember how we got involved with her? Uh, she went to work with the Jones, Jj, Jj Jones. Lang Lasalle. Yeah. And so, uh, well she's just a, she's burning, burning, burning to the ground here. It would probably say here, hopefully see her and Lindsay at Haystack, uh, connect, but hey, good. Seriously. That would be a great show Lindsey. And uh, and I know Darlene on at the same time. All right. Then real quickly we have worked anniversaries for Eddie Turner, uh, Stacie O'leary and Richard Satchel, so, well, there you go. Yeah. Right. Well listen, last big thing is definitely check out the Egio collateral that uh, that we just put up. A man eight is going to be quite the event and Amsterdam. Kenny and I will be there, but I think if you look at the collateral we just posted on the site, you're going to be just amazed. They're easy. I would just us things, top hat, and this is going to be an amazing coffee. It's going to be a really great show. It's going to be your product roadmapping, it's going to be networking. It's going to be an exciting partying. There's going to be a tax deduction. It's going to be partying cause mad Mike Marston, him and his buddies. Uh Oh. What? Oh, I know Johann Roxborough. What? What's the big deal? You don't want to hurt man. I tell you what, it's like hanging out with Russell brand man. But they get a whole new, it's a whole new staff. I mean, uh, Johann has retold his whole European division people. It's going to be cool. It's going to be great. Be there or what? The square where. All right. There you go. All right. So there you go. That's another week on control talk. Now you're smart buildings, video by video cast and podcasts. A special thanks to our guests as we can auto sing choir. Be sure to check out automated buildings, Dotcom. Com by April. First issue is ah, and it is so worth reading. So with that Kenny Smyres, remember be bold. Stay in control. I'm doing Mourinho sweat. 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Today’s another LIVE podcast broadcast (on-the-go) from MYCity…NYC. This episode marks our 100th birthday of WOMEN SIPPING. ON. LIFE. (with doctor shannon) AND my “1/2 Way To 100” Birthday! Thanks for being with me every step of the way over the past 100 episodes! Since I’ll be on the fly all day…our show notes are going to be short and sweet today.  Thanks for your understanding, love, and patience. But before I go, I want you to think about this: Imagine what you could do if you didn’t have to do it perfectly... Oh, the endless possibilities! TODAY’S SACRED S.O.L. STEP: Please grab your SACRED S.O.L. D.A.T.E JOURNAL (Daily Action To Engage yourself.) 1. What would you do if you didn’t have to do it perfectly? AND…failure and quitting weren’t an option? 2. Please come over to WomenSippingOnLife.com and let me know how the podcast has been of value to you. How has sipping on life been a benefit to you? Please let me know if there’s anything you’d like to hear more of in the future. I love and appreciate you! I’m so very thankful for you! Thanks for celebrating this 100th episode and 50th birthday with me. Thank you for being here, and allowing me to sip on life with you. Please come over to WomenSippingOnLife.com for some free resources, including my Engagement Checklist + Evaluation Rating, Six Sacred S.O.L. DATE Secrets…and a FREE copy of my best-selling book, Date Yourself Well. You can also check out my Dr. Shannon Facebook Page for more daily S.O.L. TRAINING. I look forward to seeing you again tomorrow. Please invite your best girlfriends to come and join our S.O.L. PARTY. xo Dr. Shannon. Inspiring minds that want to grow and hearts that want to know, so you can love you, your life, and your life’s work well. ONE SIP AT A TIME. A special thanks to the following souls for helping me launch our WOMEN SIPPING ON LIFE podcast… Intro/Outro done by Uni V. SOL  Outro music by Jay Man: Mind Over Matter (www.ourmusicbox.com)  Podcast cover design and web site done by: Pablo Aguilar (www.webdesigncreator.com) Podcast cover photo by Kate Montague of KM Captured (www.kmcaptured.com)

Keeping Your Self on Track - Revisiting Beeminder I was using the free trial of Beeminder. I use a wi-things scale, and I love that when I wake up and weigh in I can see if I'm on track to meet my goals (via wi-fi it logs my weight). So I had a friend of mine who had a death in the family. As always when there is an event in people's lives we meet together with food. So I helped my friend for about a week and sure enough skidded right off the track. Using Beeminder, I was able (in fact I was notified) that I was off track. If had pledged any money (for an incentive, I would lose the money). While I hate their graph (it's got WAY To much information, I do like that I can see if I'm on track to meet my goal and adjust accordingly. This article explains how it work more in depth   Avoiding the Rip Tide I was reading the book Living Forward by Michael Hyatt (technically I was listening to it via Audible) and he shared the story about a surfer who wasn't paying attention and got sucked into a rip tide which takes you out to sea (this can be very dangerous with 60-100 people dying a year from rip tides). The point is the person wasn't paying attention. Then when you figured out you have a problem, you try to take the shorter route in (which unfortunately can send you against the tide which is a battle you will lose). The solution is to swim across the tide, until you are out of it, then steer toward the shore. I have two apps that give me grades beeminder and nutritionix both give me clear symbols that let me know when I'm headed in the wrong direction. When I see my weight going in the wrong direction, I can look back at the days when I lose weight, look at the food entries around those days and repeat them. If we aren't paying attention, we can get caught in many of Life's Rip Tides and be taken into the sea of obesity. Battle of the Green Goo: Organifi vis Zuma Juice Vs Purley Inspired Organifi (See label) http://amzn.to/2w3GyI3 $70/30 servings = $2.33 a glass ($60 if you subscribe) Zuma Juice (See Label) https://zumajuice.com/offer/ $60/30 = $2.00 a glass Organic Greens (See label) http://amzn.to/2uTGkom $14.99/20 =$0.75 a glass The Zuma juice was the only one that had a bad after taste (the first taste wasn't bad, but wait a minute). I like the taste of Organic Greens (a bit like tea), but it doesn't mix as well as Organfi (which almost had no taste). Both Organic Greens and Organifi could be used in a smoothie of some sort (or solo) as there is almost no taste Organifi has Ashwagandha (see article) which seems to have a ton of benefits in regards to energy, stress relief, focus, and more. My First Thrive Market Purchase Thrive Market has been nice enough to give me access to their store. I made my purchase of Garden of Life Raw Organic Protein Powder Their website says their prices are cheaper and they are. The price of this product on the Goal of Life website is $38. The same product on Thrive market is $5 cheaper Currently, if you go to www.thrivemarket.com/lwl you get 25% off their first purchase + free shipping + free 30 d30-day trial (so you could get the $33.59 product for $25.20 )

A lot of people dream about becoming software developers. They see the potential that becoming a programmer can have and the amount of impact the coding can have in companies and the lives of people all around the world. However, becoming a software developer is not that easy. This programming road is hard and it can take you some time to get into this field. Basically, if you choose to become a software developer, you'll be a student forever, and you'll have to be constantly improving and keeping up with your education. While there are a lot of different tutorials on software development, the information about becoming a programmer is still blurry and newbies might find it difficult to cope up with all this blurry information. Due to that, I decided to create a video with the Top 3 Way To become A Software Developer. There are many many roads you can follow if you want to become a software developer, however, these are the top 3 in my opinion: - Going To College - Going To A Developer Boot Camp - Self Learning Wanna know more about becoming a software developer? Listen to this episode and find out!

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