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Is Artificial Intelligence the ultimate security dragon, we need to slay, or a powerful ally we must train? Recorded LIVE at BSidesSF, this special episode dives headfirst into the most pressing debates around AI security.Join host Ashish Rajan as he navigates the complex landscape of AI threats and opportunities with two leading experts:Jackie Bow (Anthropic): Championing the "How to Train Your Dragon" approach, Jackie reveals how we can leverage AI, and even its 'hallucinations,' for advanced threat detection, response, and creative security solutions.Kane Narraway (Canva): Taking the "Knight/Wizard" stance, Kane illuminates the critical challenges in securing AI systems, understanding the new layers of risk, and the complexities of AI threat modeling.
Are you struggling to implement robust container security at scale without creating friction with your development teams? In this episode, host Ashish Rajan sits down with Cailyn Edwards, Co-Chair of Kubernetes SIG Security and Senior Security Engineer, for a masterclass in practical container security. This episode was recorded LIVE at KubeCon EU, London 2025.In this episode, you'll learn about:Automating Security Effectively: Moving beyond basic vulnerability scanning to implement comprehensive automationBridging the Security-Developer Gap: Strategies for educating developers, building trust, fostering collaboration, and understanding developer use cases instead of just imposing rules.The "Shift Down" Philosophy: Why simply "Shifting Left" isn't enough, and how security teams can proactively provide secure foundations, essentially "Shifting Down."Leveraging Open Source Tools: Practical discussion around tools like Trivy, Kubeaudit, Dependabot, RenovateBot, TruffleHog, Kube-bench, OPA, and more.The Power of Immutable Infrastructure: Exploring the benefits of using minimal, immutable images to drastically reduce patching efforts and enhance security posture.Understanding Real Risks: Discussing the dangers lurking in default configurations and easily exposed APIs/ports in container environments.Getting Leadership Buy-In: The importance of aligning security initiatives with business goals and securing support from leadership.Guest Socials: Cailyn's LinkedinPodcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:-Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube- Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCampIf you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity PodcastQuestions asked:(00:00) Intro: Container Security at Scale(01:56) Meet Cailyn Edwards: Kubernetes SIG Security Co-Chair(03:34) Why Container Security Matters: Risks & Exposures Explained(06:21) Automating Container Security: From Scans to Admission Controls(12:19) Essential Container Security Tools (Trivy, OPA, Chainguard & More)(19:35) Overcoming DevSecOps Challenges: Working with Developers(21:31) Proactive Security: Shifting Down, Not Just Left(25:24) Fun Questions with CailynResources spoken about during the interview:Cailyn's talk at KubeCon EU 2025
The cloud security landscape may have just shifted — and we're here to break it down.In this special panel episode, host Ashish Rajan is joined by an all-star group of cloud and cybersecurity experts to discuss one of the most important conversations in cloud security today: the changing nature of security architecture, SOC readiness, and how teams must evolve in a multi-cloud world.Guests include:Chris Hughes – CEO at Acqui & host of Resilient CyberJames Berthoty – Cloud and AppSec engineer, known for sharp vendor analysis and engineering-first content and Latio TechMike Privette – Founder of Return on Security, expert in cybersecurity economicsFrancis Odum – Founder of Software Analyst Cyber ResearchWe Cover:Why cloud security is now beyond CSPM and CNAPPThe impact of major market moves on enterprise cloud strategyWhat vendor lock-in really means in a multi-cloud eraHow runtime and real-time security are taking center stageThe rise of AI-SPM and AI-powered SOCsWhat CISOs and practitioners should actually be doing nowGuest Socials: David's LinkedinPodcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:-Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube- Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCampIf you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity PodcastQuestions asked:(00:00) Introduction(02:05) A bit about our panelists(04:24) Current Cloud Security Landscape(09:36) Challenges with Multi-Cloud Security(18:06) Runtime Security for Cloud(23:34) Can SOC deal with CNAPP Alerts(26:23) CISO planning their cybersecurity program(32:38) Regulatory requirements in public sector(36:27) Success Metrics for Modern Cloud Security Program
Detection rules aren't just for fun—they're critical for securing cloud environments. But are you using them the right way? In this episode, Ashish Rajan sits down with David French, Staff Adoption Engineer for Security at Google Cloud, to break down how organizations can scale Detection as Code across AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud.Why prevention isn't enough—and how detection fills the gapThe biggest mistakes in detection rules that could blow up your SOCHow to scale detections across hundreds (or thousands) of cloud accountsThe ROI of Detection as Code—why security leaders should careCommon low-hanging fruit detections every cloud security team should implementDavid has spent over a decade working in detection engineering, threat hunting, and building SIEM & EDR products. He shares real-world insights on how companies can improve their detection strategies and avoid costly security missteps.Guest Socials: David's LinkedinPodcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:-Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube- Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCampIf you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity PodcastQuestions asked:(00:00) Introduction(03:06) What is Detection as Code?(03:41) What was before Detection as Code?(05:36) Business ROI for doing Detection as Code?(07:49) Building Security Operations in Google Cloud(12:41) Threat Detection for different type of workload(14:54) What is Google SecOps?(20:36) Different kinds of Detection people can create(24:46) Scaling Detection across many Google Cloud accounts(28:47) The role of Data Pipeline in Detection(31:44) Detections people can start with(34:14) Stages of maturity for detection(36:43) Skillsets for Detection Engineering(39:32) The Fun Section
What does it take to secure AI-based applications in the cloud? In this episode, host Ashish Rajan sits down with Bar-el Tayouri, Head of Mend AI at Mend.io, to dive deep into the evolving world of AI security. From uncovering the hidden dangers of shadow AI to understanding the layers of an AI Bill of Materials (AIBOM), Bar-el breaks down the complexities of securing AI-driven systems. Learn about the risks of malicious models, the importance of red teaming, and how to balance innovation with security in a dynamic AI landscape.What is an AIBOM and why it mattersThe stages of AI adoption: experimentation to optimizationShadow AI: A factor of 10 more than you thinkPractical strategies for pre- and post-deployment securityThe future of AI security with agent swarms and beyondGuest Socials: Bar-El's LinkedinPodcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:-Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube- Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCampIf you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity PodcastQuestions asked:(00:00) Introduction(02:24) A bit about Bar-el(03:32) What is AIBOM?(12:58) What is an embedding model?(16:12) What should Leaders have in their AI Security Strategy?(19:00) Whats different about the AI Security Landscape?(23:50) Challenges with integrating security into AI based Applications(25:33) Has AI solved the disconnect between Security and Developers(28:39) Risk framework for AI Security(32:26) Dealing with threats for current AI Applications in production(36:51) Future of AI Security(41:24) The Fun Section
In this episode, host Ashish Rajan spoke to Mike Privette, founder of Return on Security, to explore the landscape of cybersecurity as we look toward 2025. Mike shared his unique insights on the economics of cybersecurity, breaking down industry trends, and discussing how AI is revolutionizing areas like governance, risk, compliance (GRC), and data loss prevention (DLP). They dive into the convergence of cloud security and application security, the rise of startups, and the ever-present "cat-and-mouse game" of adapting to investor and buyer needs. Guest Socials: Mike's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (00:27) A bit about Mike (00:49) The story behind Return On Security (01:40) How big is the cybersecurity landscape? (04:36) Cybersecurity Trends from 2024 (07:03) AI Security in 2024 (08:10) Cybersecurity Trends in 2025 (13:16) Trends to look at when starting a company (16:18) Trends for Startups (17:37) Do new vendors enter the cybersecurity market? (18:53) Whats a healthy cybersecurity industry? (20:12) The world of startup acquisitions (22:29) The Fun Section
In this episode of the Cloud Security Podcast, host Ashish Rajan speaks to James Berthoty, founder of Latio.Tech and an engineer-driven analyst, for a discussion on cloud security tools. In this episode James breaks down CNAPP and what it really means for engineers, if kubernetes secuity is the new baseline for cloud security and runtime security vs vulnerability management. Guest Socials: James's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (02:26) A bit about James (03:20) What in Cloud Security in 2025? (04:51) What is CNAPP? (07:01) Differentiating a vulnerability from misconfiguration (11:51) Vulnerability Management in Cloud (15:38) Is Kubernetes becoming the default? (21:50) Is there a good way to do platformization? (24:16) Should CNAPP include Kubernetes? (28:07) What is AI Security in 2025? (35:06) Tool Acronyms for 2025 (37:27) Fun Questions
In this episode our host Ashish Rajan sat down with Ross Haleliuk, author of Cybersecurity for Builders and creator of the Venture in Security blog, to explore the current state and future of the cybersecurity industry. From understanding the challenges of building a cybersecurity startup to the dynamics of security engineering and market trends for 2025. Ross and Ashish explore why the cybersecurity industry isn't as crowded as it seems and the divide between companies that build in-house security and those that rely on vendors. Ross also unpacks why sales and marketing aren't “dirty words” in cybersecurity, why security engineering is “the present,” and how practitioners can balance business needs with technical aspirations. Guest Socials: Ross's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (05:33) How Venture in Security started? (09:33) Security Engineering in Cybersecurity (18:18) Cybersecurity markets that will be top of mind in 2025 (24:15) GTM for Defender Tools (30:09) Vulnerabilities vs Misconfiguration Tools (37:56) How should product companies think about GTM? (44:27) How to decide between different security tools? (56:36) Cybersecurity for Builders book (01:05:00) The Fun Section Resources shared during the episode: Venture in Security Blog Cyber for Builders Book Challenges in Security Engineering Programs - Rami McCarthy Cybersecurity is not a market for lemons. It is a market for silver bullets The Market for Silver Bullets
At HashiConf 2024 in Boston, our host Ashish Rajan had a great chat over some cannolis and a game of Jenga with AJ Oller, AVP of Engineering at The Hartford about how automation, mainframes, and compliance intersect to drive innovation in regulated industries like insurance. They spoke about why regulations aren't barriers but frameworks to prevent failure, the human side of engineering and how to manage change fatigue during transformations and how automation enhances security, disaster recovery, and operational efficiency. Guest Socials: AJ' s Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (01:53) A bit about AJ Oller (02:17) The Cannoli taste test (04:38) Technology in the Insurance industry (10:19)What is a platform? (11:46) What skillsets do you need in platform team? (14:19) Maturity for building platform teams (19:5)8 Business case for investing in Automation (24:49) Does Automation help with security regulations? (28:10) Leaders communicating automation value to business (30:37) Cheerleading for digital transformation (32:32) The Fun Section
In this episode, host Ashish Rajan sits down with Prahathess Rengasamy, a cloud security expert with extensive experience at companies like Credit Karma, Block, and Apple. Together, they explore the challenges and best practices for scaling cloud security, especially in the complex scenarios of mergers and acquisitions. Starting with foundational elements like CSPMs and security policies, Prahathess breaks down the evolution of cloud security strategies. He explains why cloud security cannot succeed in isolation and emphasizes the need for collaboration with platform and infrastructure engineering teams. The conversation delves into real-world examples, including managing AWS and GCP security post-acquisition and navigating the cultural and technical challenges that come with multi-cloud environments. Guest Socials: Prahathess's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (02:02) A bit about Prahathess (02:36) How does Cloud Security Scale? (07:51) Where do we see just in time provisioning? (10:05) Cloud Security for Mergers and Acquisitions (14:31) Should people become MultiCloud Experts? (15:28) The need for data insights (16:54) Data sources to have as part of data insights (21:06) Benefits of Data insights for Cloud Security Teams (21:30) How to bring the new team along the cloud security journey? (24:29) How to learn about data insights? (26:35) How to maximize security efforts with data? (36:21) The Fun Section
In this episode Ashish Rajan sits down with Shashwat Sehgal, co-founder and CEO of P0 Security, to talk about the complexities of cloud identity lifecycle management. Shashwat spoke to us about why traditional identity solutions like SAML are no longer sufficient in today's cloud environments. He discusses the need for organisations to adopt a more holistic approach to secure access across cloud infrastructures, addressing everything from managing IAM roles to gaining complete visibility and inventory of all cloud identities. This episode goes into the growing challenges around managing human and non-human identities, and the importance of shifting from legacy solutions to cloud-native governance. Guest Socials: Shashwat's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (01:47) A bit about Shashwat (02:20) What is Identity Lifecycle Management? (04:55) What is IGA and PAM? (10:10) Complexity of Identity Management (13:12) What are non human identities? (15:56) Maturity Levels for Cloud Identity Lifecycle Management (19:03) The role of SAML in Identity Management (20:07) Identity Management of Third parties and SaaS Providers (21:28) Who's responsible for identity management in Cloud? (23:28) Changing landscape of identity management (27:46) Native Solutions for identity management (30:03) Fun Questions
In this episode of the Cloud Security Podcast, we bring together an incredible panel of experts to explore the evolving landscape of cloud security in 2024. Hosted by Ashish Rajan, the discussion dives deep into the challenges and realities of today's multi-cloud environments. With perspectives ranging from seasoned veterans to emerging voices this episode offers a broad spectrum of insights from cloud security practitioners who are living and breathing cloud security everyday. We are very grateful to our panelist who took part in 1st of its kind edition for the State of Cloud Security - Meg Ashby, Damien Burks, Chris Farris, Rich Mogull, Patrick Sanders, Ammar Alim and Abdie Mohamed. The conversation covers essential topics such as the pitfalls of multi-cloud adoption, the persistent security issues that remain even as cloud technologies advance, and the importance of specializing in one cloud platform while maintaining surface-level knowledge of others. The panelists also share their thoughts on the future of cloud security, including the increasing relevance of Kubernetes and edge security. Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (02:22) How much has Cloud Security Changed? (07:05) Is the expectation to be MultiCloud? (19:07) What's top of mind in Cloud Security in 2024? (27:17) The current Cloud Service Provider Landscape (39:26) Where to start in Cloud Security ? (52:10) The Fun Section Resources discussed during the episode: fwd:cloudsec conference Cloud Security Bootcamp DevSecBlueprint YouTube Channel - Damien Burks Rich Mogull's Cloud Security Lab of the Week
In this episode of Wait Just an Infosec hosted by SANS editor Thomas Wolfe, SANS contributors Stacy Dunn and Rich Greene discuss their personal journeys into cybersecurity and the importance of skill versus background. Join Stacy and Rich as they explore questions like; should employers dare to invest in potential over pedigree? Why did you choose cybersecurity? What was your profession before diving into cybersecurity? And would you hire a candidate based on their skill, regardless of background? After, Ashish Rajan and Megan Roddie come on the show to talk about the upcoming SANS Cloud Security Exchange 2023, where Google Cloud, Microsoft Azure and AWS will join together for a riveting discussion.Wait Just an Infosec is produced by the SANS Institute. You can watch the full, weekly Wait Just an Infosec live stream on the SANS Institute YouTube, LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook channels on Tuesdays at 10:00am ET (2:00pm UTC). Feature segments from each episode are published in a podcast format on Wednesdays at noon eastern. If you enjoy the Wait Just an Infosec live, weekly show covering the latest cybersecurity trends and news and featuring world-renowned information security experts, be sure and become a member of our community. When you join the SANS Community, you will have access to cutting edge cyber security news, training, and free tools you can't find anywhere else. Learn more about Wait Just an Infosec at sans.org/wjai and become a member of our community at sans.org/join. Connect with SANS on social media and watch the weekly live show: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter
Send us a Text Message.Cloud security is a big topic, and there's a lot of advice out there. In this episode of The Cyberman Show Ashish Rajan from the Cloud Security Podcast joins me to discuss getting started with cloud security. We spoke about #cloud, #cloudsecurity and #appsec basics, cloud sec learning path for kids getting out of school/college, trends in cloud sec, Impact of AI, books we reading, a new restaurant he tried and more.If you're interested in learning more about Cloud Security, then be sure to listen to this episode! It's a great way to start your journey into the world of cloud security.Here is the link to Cloud Security Podcast https://www.youtube.com/@CloudSecurityPodcasthttps://open.spotify.com/show/6LZgeh4GecRYPc0WrwMB4ISupport the Show.Google Drive link for Podcast content:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10vmcQ-oqqFDPojywrfYousPcqhvisnkoMy Profile on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prashantmishra11/Youtube Channnel : https://www.youtube.com/@TheCybermanShow Twitter handle https://twitter.com/prashant_cyber PS: The views are my own and dont reflect any views from my employer.
Guests: Taylor Hersom, Founder at Eden Data [@edendatainc]On LinkedIn | https://linkedin.com/taylorhersomOn Twitter | https://twitter.com/taylorhersomAshish Rajan, CISO, CyberSecurity Influencer, SANS [@SANSInstitute] Trainer for Cloud Security, and Host of the Cloud Security Podcast [@CloudSecPod]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishrajan/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/hashishrajanOn TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@hashishrajanOn YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRrWf6aQnFbdS7WRlv_o0Tw____________________________Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin____________________________This Episode's SponsorsImperva | https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988Edgescan | https://itspm.ag/itspegweb___________________________Episode NotesJoin Sean, Ashish, and Taylor, as they discuss the evolution of cloud computing, cloud security, and their experiences in the field. The conversation explores the different types of cloud services, the shift from on-premises to cloud infrastructure, and the growing need for professionals with specific cloud security knowledge.The guests address the challenge of shadow IT, where people within an organization use cloud services without the knowledge of the IT team or leadership. They stress the importance of collaboration, focusing on a "security champions" program that bridges the gap between security professionals and developers. They emphasize building security from the beginning rather than patching holes later and highlight the importance of adapting to the ever-changing landscape of cloud security.They also discuss the use of ChatGPT as a learning tool, its potential impact on the security community, and its potential benefits and risks, exploring the possibility of using ChatGPT for compliance and its impact on external auditors. While acknowledging the potential benefits of ChatGPT, they caution against overreliance on technology and stress the importance of maintaining critical thinking, problem-solving, and respect within the security community.The podcast concludes with an emphasis on the importance of culture, collaboration, and trust in cybersecurity. The guests note the role of security champions programs in bridging knowledge gaps and highlight the need to customize security frameworks like NIST for specific IT environments. They touch on the softening stigma around cybersecurity and point out that people already practice security in their daily lives, encouraging them to apply the same mindset to their digital work.Listen up and comment on this episode to share your thoughts with the community.____________________________ResourcesCloud Security Podcast: https://www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv____________________________To see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYqAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?
Guests: Taylor Hersom, Founder at Eden Data [@edendatainc]On LinkedIn | https://linkedin.com/taylorhersomOn Twitter | https://twitter.com/taylorhersomAshish Rajan, CISO, CyberSecurity Influencer, SANS [@SANSInstitute] Trainer for Cloud Security, and Host of the Cloud Security Podcast [@CloudSecPod]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishrajan/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/hashishrajanOn TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@hashishrajanOn YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRrWf6aQnFbdS7WRlv_o0Tw____________________________Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin____________________________This Episode's SponsorsImperva | https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988Edgescan | https://itspm.ag/itspegweb___________________________Episode NotesJoin Sean, Ashish, and Taylor, as they discuss the evolution of cloud computing, cloud security, and their experiences in the field. The conversation explores the different types of cloud services, the shift from on-premises to cloud infrastructure, and the growing need for professionals with specific cloud security knowledge.The guests address the challenge of shadow IT, where people within an organization use cloud services without the knowledge of the IT team or leadership. They stress the importance of collaboration, focusing on a "security champions" program that bridges the gap between security professionals and developers. They emphasize building security from the beginning rather than patching holes later and highlight the importance of adapting to the ever-changing landscape of cloud security.They also discuss the use of ChatGPT as a learning tool, its potential impact on the security community, and its potential benefits and risks, exploring the possibility of using ChatGPT for compliance and its impact on external auditors. While acknowledging the potential benefits of ChatGPT, they caution against overreliance on technology and stress the importance of maintaining critical thinking, problem-solving, and respect within the security community.The podcast concludes with an emphasis on the importance of culture, collaboration, and trust in cybersecurity. The guests note the role of security champions programs in bridging knowledge gaps and highlight the need to customize security frameworks like NIST for specific IT environments. They touch on the softening stigma around cybersecurity and point out that people already practice security in their daily lives, encouraging them to apply the same mindset to their digital work.Listen up and comment on this episode to share your thoughts with the community.____________________________ResourcesCloud Security Podcast: https://www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv____________________________To see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastWatch the webcast version on-demand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYqAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?
Brandon Evans and fellow cloud security podcaster Ashish Rajan, host of the Cloud Security Podcast and Principal Cloud Security Advocate for Snyk, chat about developer-first security, multicloud abstraction layers, cybersecurity conferences, and the 5 Cs of cloud security products (CASB, CIEM, CNAPP, CSPM, and CWPP).Our Guest - Ashish RajanAshish Rajan is the host of the wildly popular Cloud Security Podcast, a CISO, CyberSecurity Influencer, a SANS Trainer for Cloud Security and an outspoken opinion leader on all things Cloud Security & DevSecOps. He is a frequent contributor on topics related to public cloud transformation, DevSecOps, Future Tech and the associated security challenges for practitioners and CISOs.Follow AshishTwitterLinkedInWebSponsor's Note:Support for Cloud Ace podcast comes from SANS Institute. If you like the topics covered in this podcast and would like to learn more about cloud security, SANS Cloud Security curriculum is here to support your journey into building, deploying, and managing secure cloud infrastructure, platforms, and applications. Whether you are on a technical flight plan, or a leadership one, SANS Cloud Security curriculum has resources, training, and certifications to fit your needs.Focus on where the cloud is going, not where it is today. Your organization is going to need someone with hands-on technical experience and cloud security-specific knowledge. You will be prepared not only for your current role, but also for a cutting-edge future in cloud security.Review and Download Cloud Security Resources: sans.org/cloud-security/Join our growing and diverse community of cloud security professionals on your platform of choice:Discord | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTubeSPONSER NOTE: Support for Cloud Ace podcast comes from SANS Institute. If you like the topics covered in this podcast and would like to learn more about cloud security, SANS Cloud Security curriculum is here to support your journey into building, deploying, and managing secure cloud infrastructure, platforms, and applications. Whether you are on a technical flight plan, or a leadership one, SANS Cloud Security curriculum has resources, training, and certifications to fit your needs. Focus on where the cloud is going, not where it is today. Your organization is going to need someone with hands-on technical experience and cloud security-specific knowledge. You will be prepared not only for your current role, but also for a cutting-edge future in cloud security. Review and Download Cloud Security Resources: sans.org/cloud-security/ Join our growing and diverse community of cloud security professionals on your platform of choice: Discord | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube
About AshishAshish has over 13+yrs experience in the Cybersecurity industry with the last 7 focusing primarily helping Enterprise with managing security risk at scale in cloud first world and was the CISO of a global Cloud First Tech company in his last role. Ashish is also a keynote speaker and host of the widely poplar Cloud Security Podcast, a SANS trainer for Cloud Security & DevSecOps. Ashish currently works at Snyk as a Principal Cloud Security Advocate. He is a frequent contributor on topics related to public cloud transformation, Cloud Security, DevSecOps, Security Leadership, future Tech and the associated security challenges for practitioners and CISOs.Links Referenced: Cloud Security Podcast: https://cloudsecuritypodcast.tv/ Personal website: https://www.ashishrajan.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishrajan/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hashishrajan Cloud Security Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CloudSecurityPodcast Cloud Security Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cloud-security-podcast/ TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by our friends at Thinkst Canary. Most folks find out way too late that they've been breached. Thinkst Canary changes this. Deploy canaries and canary tokens in minutes, and then forget about them. Attackers tip their hand by touching them, giving you one alert, when it matters. With zero administrative overhead to this and almost no false positives, Canaries are deployed and loved on all seven continents. Check out what people are saying at canary.love today. Corey: This episode is bought to you in part by our friends at Veeam. Do you care about backups? Of course you don't. Nobody cares about backups. Stop lying to yourselves! You care about restores, usually right after you didn't care enough about backups. If you're tired of the vulnerabilities, costs and slow recoveries when using snapshots to restore your data, assuming you even have them at all living in AWS-land, there is an alternative for you. Check out Veeam, thats V-E-E-A-M for secure, zero-fuss AWS backup that won't leave you high and dry when it's time to restore. Stop taking chances with your data. Talk to Veeam. My thanks to them for sponsoring this ridiculous podcast.Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn. This promoted episode is brought to us once again by our friends at Snyk. Snyk does amazing things in the world of cloud security and terrible things with the English language because, despite raising a whole boatload of money, they still stubbornly refuse to buy a vowel in their name. I'm joined today by Principal Cloud Security Advocate from Snyk, Ashish Rajan. Ashish, thank you for joining me.Corey: Your history is fascinating to me because you've been around for a while on a podcast of your own, the Cloud Security Podcast. But until relatively recently, you were a CISO. As has become relatively accepted in the industry, the primary job of the CISO is to get themselves fired, and then, “Well, great. What's next?” Well, failing upward is really the way to go wherever possible, so now you are at Snyk, helping the rest of us fix our security. That's my headcanon on all of that anyway, which I'm sure bears scant, if any, resemblance to reality, what's your version?Ashish: [laugh]. Oh, well, fortunately, I wasn't fired. And I think I definitely find that it's a great way to look at the CISO job to walk towards the path where you're no longer required because then I think you've definitely done your job. I moved into the media space because we got an opportunity to go full-time. I spoke about this offline, but an incident inspired us to go full-time into the space, so that's what made me leave my CISO job and go full-time into democratizing cloud security as much as possible for anyone and everyone. So far, every day, almost now, so it's almost like I dream about cloud security as well now.Corey: Yeah, I dream of cloud security too, but my dreams are of a better world in which people didn't tell me how much they really care about security in emails that demonstrate how much they failed to care about security until it was too little too late. I was in security myself for a while and got out of it because I was tired of being miserable all the time. But I feel that there's a deep spiritual alignment between people who care about cost and people who care about security when it comes to cloud—or business in general—because you can spend infinite money on those things, but it doesn't really get your business further. It's like paying for fire insurance. It isn't going to get you to your next milestone, whereas shipping faster, being more effective at launching a feature into markets, that can multiply revenue. That's what companies are optimized around. It's, “Oh, right. We have to do the security stuff,” or, “We have to fix the AWS billing piece.” It feels, on some level, like it's a backburner project most of the time and it's certainly invested in that way. What's your take on that?Ashish: I tend to disagree with that, for a couple reasons.Corey: Excellent. I love arguments.Ashish: I feel this in a healthy way as well. A, I love the analogy of spiritual animals where they are cost optimization as well as the risk aversion as well. I think where I normally stand—and this is what I had to unlearn after doing years of cybersecurity—was that initially, we always used to be—when I say ‘we,' I mean cybersecurity folks—we always used to be like police officers. Is that every time there's an incident, it turns into a crime scene, and suddenly we're all like, “Pew, pew, pew,” with trying to get all the evidence together, let's make this isolated as much—as isolated as possible from the rest of the environment, and let's try and resolve this.I feel like in Cloud has asked people to become more collaborative, which is a good problem to have. It also encourages that, I don't know how many people know this, but the reason we have brakes in our cars is not because we can slow down the car; it's so that we can go faster. And I feel security is the same thing. The guardrails we talk about, the risks that you're trying to avert, the reason you're trying to have security is not to slow down but to go faster. Say for example in an ideal world, to quote what you were saying earlier if we were to do the right kind of encryption—I'm just going to use the most basic example—if we just do encryption, right, and just ensure that as a guardrail, the entire company needs to have encryption at rest, encryption in transit, period, nothing else, no one cares about anything else.But if you just lay that out as a framework and this is our guardrail, no one brakes this, and whoever does, hey we—you know, slap on the wrist and come back on to the actual track, but keep going forward. That just means any project that comes in that meets [unintelligible 00:04:58] criteria. Keeps going forward, as many times we want to go into production. Doesn't matter. So, that is the new world of security that we are being asked to move towards where Amazon re:Invent is coming in, there will be another, I don't know, three, four hundred services that will be released. How many people, irrespective of security, would actually know all of those services? They would not. So, [crosstalk 00:05:20]—Corey: Oh, we've long since passed the point where I can convincingly talk about AWS services that don't really exist and not get called out on it by Amazon employees. No one keeps them on their head. Except me because I'm sad.Ashish: Oh, no, but I think you're right, though. I can't remember who was it—maybe Andrew Vogel or someone—they didn't release a service which didn't exist, and became, like, a thing on Twitter. Everyone—Corey: Ah, AWS's Infinidash. I want to say that was Joe Nash out of Twilio at the time. I don't recall offhand if I'm right on that, but that's how it feels. Yeah, it was certainly not me. People said that was my idea. Nope, nope, I just basically amplified it to a huge audience.But yeah, it was a brilliant idea, just because it's a fake service so everyone could tell stories about it. And amazing product feedback, if you look at it through the right lens of how people view your company and your releases when they get this perfect, platonic ideal of what it is you might put out there, what do people say about it?Ashish: Yeah. I think that's to your point, I will use that as an example as well to talk about things that there will always be a service which we will be told about for the first time, which we will not know. So, going back to the unlearning part, as a security team, we just have to understand that we can't use the old ways of, hey, I want to have all the controls possible, cover all there is possible. I need to have a better understanding of all the cloud services because I've done, I don't know, 15 years of cloud, there is no one that has 10, 15 years of cloud unless you're I don't know someone from Amazon employee yourself. Most people these days still have five to six years experience and they're still learning.Even the cloud engineering folks or the DevOps folks, they're all still learning and the tooling is continuing to evolve. So yeah, I think I definitely find that the security in this cloud world a lot more collaborative and it's being looked at as the same function as a brake would have in car: to help you go faster, not to just slam the brake every time it's like, oh, my God, is the situation isolated and to police people.Corey: One of the points I find that is so aligned between security and cost—and you alluded to it a minute ago—is the idea of helping companies go faster safely. To that end, guardrails have to be at least as easy as just going off and doing it cow-person style. Because if it's not, it's more work in any way, shape, or form, people won't do it. People will not tag their resources by hand, people will not go through and use the dedicated account structure you've got that gets in their way and screams at them every time they try to use one of the native features built into the platform. It has to get out of their way and make things easier, not worse, or people fight it, they go around it, and you're never going to get buy-in.Ashish: Do you feel like cost is something that a lot more people pay a lot more attention to because, you know, that creeps into your budget? Like, as people who've been leaders before, and this was the conversation, they would just go, “Well, I only have, I don't know, 100,000 to spend this quarter,” or, “This year,” and they are the ones who—are some of them, I remember—I used to have this manager, once, a CTO would always be conscious about the spend. It's almost like if you overspend, where do you get the money from? There's no money to bring in extra. Like, no. There's a set money that people plan for any year for a budget. And to your point about if you're not keeping an eye on how are we spending this in the AWS context because very easy to spend the entire money in one day, or in the cloud context. So, I wonder if that is also a big driver for people to feel costs above security? Where do you stand on that?Corey: When it comes to cost, one of the nice things about it—and this is going to sound sarcastic, but I swear to you it's not—it's only money.Ashish: Mmm.Corey: Think about that for a second because it's true. Okay, we wound up screwing up and misconfiguring something and overspending. Well, there are ways around that. You can call AWS, you can get credits, you can get concessions made for mistakes, you can sign larger contracts and get a big pile of proof of concept credit et cetera, et cetera. There are ways to make that up, whereas with security, it's there are no do-overs on security breaches.Ashish: No, that's a good point. I mean, you can always get more money, use a credit card, worst case scenario, but you can't do the same for—there's a security breach and suddenly now—hopefully, you don't have to call New York Times and say, “Can you undo that article that you just have posted that told you it was a mistake. We rewinded what we did.”Corey: I'm curious to know what your take is these days on the state of the cloud security community. And the reason I bring that up is, well, I started about a year-and-a-half ago now doing a podcast every Thursday. Which is Last Week in AWS: Security Edition because everything else I found in the industry that when I went looking was aimed explicitly at either—driven by the InfoSec community, which is toxic and a whole bunch of assumed knowledge already built in that looks an awful lot like gatekeeping, which is the reason I got out of InfoSec in the first place, or alternately was completely vendor-captured, where, okay, great, we're going to go ahead and do a whole bunch of interesting content and it's all brought to you by this company and strangely, all of the content is directly align with doing some pretty weird things that you wouldn't do unless you're trying to build a business case for that company's product. And it just feels hopelessly compromised. I wanted to find something that was aimed at people who had to care about security but didn't have security as part of their job title. Think DevOps types and you're getting warmer.That's what I wound up setting out to build. And when all was said and done, I wasn't super thrilled with, honestly, how alone it still felt. You've been doing this for a while, and you're doing a great job at it, don't get me wrong, but there is the question that—and I understand they're sponsoring this episode, but the nice thing about promoted guest episodes is that they can buy my attention, not my opinion. How do you retain creative control of your podcast while working for a security vendor?Ashish: So, that's a good question. So, Snyk by themselves have not ever asked us to change any piece of content; we have been working with them for the past few months now. The reason we kind of came along with Snyk was the alignment. And we were talking about this earlier for I totally believe that DevSecOps and cloud security are ultimately going to come together one day. That may not be today, that may not be tomorrow, that may not be in 2022, or maybe 2023, but there will be a future where these two will sit together.And the developer-first security mentality that they had, in this context from cloud prospective—developers being the cloud engineers, the DevOps people as you called out, the reason you went in that direction, I definitely want to work with them. And ultimately, there would never be enough people in security to solve the problem. That is the harsh reality. There would never be enough people. So, whether it's cloud security or not, like, for people who were at AWS re:Inforce, the first 15 minutes by Steve Schmidt, CSO of Amazon, was get a security guardian program.So, I've been talking about it, everyone else is talking about right now, Amazon has become the first CSP to even talk about this publicly as well that we should have security guardians. Which by the way, I don't know why, but you can still call it—it is technically DevSecOps what you're trying to do—they spoke about a security champion program as part of the keynote that they were running. Nothing to do with cloud security, but the idea being how much of this workload can we share? We can raise, as a security team—for people who may be from a security background listening to this—how much elevation can we provide the risk in front of the right people who are a decision-maker? That is our role.We help them with the governance, we help with managing it, but we don't know how to solve the risk or close off a risk, or close off a vulnerability because you might be the best person because you work in that application every day, every—you know the bandages that are put in, you know all the holes that are there, so the best threat model can be performed by the person who works on a day-to-day, not a security person who spent, like, an hour with you once a week because that's the only time they could manage. So, going back to the Snyk part, that's the mission that we've had with the podcast; we want to democratize cloud security and build a community around neutral information. There is no biased information. And I agree with what you said as well, where a lot of the podcasts outside of what we were finding was more focused on, “Hey, this is how you use AWS. This is how you use Azure. This is how you use GCP.”But none of them were unbiased in the opinion. Because real life, let's just say even if I use the AWS example—because we are coming close to the AWS re:Invent—they don't have all the answers from a security perspective. They don't have all the answers from an infrastructure perspective or cloud-native perspective. So, there are some times—or even most times—people are making a call where they're going outside of it. So, unbiased information is definitely required and it is not there enough.So, I'm glad that at least people like yourself are joining, and you know, creating the world where more people are trying to be relatable to DevOps people as well as the security folks. Because it's hard for a security person to be a developer, but it's easy for a developer or an engineer to understand security. And the simplest example I use is when people walk out of their house, they lock the door. They're already doing security. This is the same thing we're asking when we talk about security in the cloud or in the [unintelligible 00:14:49] as well. Everyone is, it just it hasn't been pointed out in the right way.Corey: I'm curious as to what it is that gets you up in the morning. Now, I know you work in security, but you're also not a CISO anymore, so I'm not asking what gets you up at 2 a.m. because we know what happens in the security space, then. There's a reason that my area of business focus is strictly a business hours problem. But I'd love to know what it is about cloud security as a whole that gets you excited.Ashish: I think it's an opportunity for people to get into the space without the—you know, you said gatekeeper earlier, those gatekeepers who used to have that 25 years experience in cybersecurity, 15 years experience in cybersecurity, Cloud has challenged that norm. Now, none of that experience helps you do AWS services better. It definitely helps you with the foundational pieces, definitely helps you do identity, networking, all of that, but you still have to learn something completely new, a new way of working, which allows for a lot of people who earlier was struggling to get into cybersecurity, now they have an opening. That's what excites me about cloud security, that it has opened up a door which is beyond your CCNA, CISSP, and whatever else certification that people want to get. By the way, I don't have a CISSP, so I can totally throw CISSP under the bus.But I definitely find that cloud security excites me every morning because it has shown me light where, to what you said, it was always a gated community. Although that's a very huge generalization. There's a lot of nice people in cybersecurity who want to mentor and help people get in. But Cloud security has pushed through that door, made it even wider than it was before.Corey: I think there's a lot to be said for the concept of sending the elevator back down. I really have remarkably little patience for people who take the perspective of, “Well, I got mine so screw everyone else.” The next generation should have it easier than we did, figuring out where we land in the ecosystem, where we live in the space. And there are folks who do a tremendous job of this, but there are also areas where I think there is significant need for improvement. I'm curious to know what you see as lacking in the community ecosystem for folks who are just dipping their toes into the water of cloud security.Ashish: I think that one, there's misinformation as well. The first one being, if you have never done IT before you can get into cloud security, and you know, you will do a great job. I think that is definitely a mistake to just accept the fact if Amazon re:Invent tells you do all these certifications, or Azure does the same, or GCP does the same. If I'll be really honest—and I feel like I can be honest, this is a safe space—that for people who are listening in, if you're coming to the space for the first time, whether it's cloud or cloud security, if you haven't had much exposure to the foundational pieces of it, it would be a really hard call. You would know all the AWS services, you will know all the Azure services because you have your certification, but if I was to ask you, “Hey, help me build an application. What would be the architecture look like so it can scale?”“So, right now we are a small pizza-size ten-people team”—I'm going to use the Amazon term there—“But we want to grow into a Facebook tomorrow, so please build me an architecture that can scale.” And if you regurgitate what Amazon has told you, or Azure has told you, or GCP has told you, I can definitely see that you would struggle in the industry because that's not how, say every application is built. Because the cloud service provider would ask you to drink the Kool-Aid and say they can solve all your problems, even though they don't have all the servers in the world. So, that's the first misinformation.The other one too, for people who are transitioning, who used to be in IT or in cybersecurity and trying to get into the cloud security space, the challenge over there is that outside of Amazon, Google, and Microsoft, there is not a lot of formal education which is unbiased. It is a great way to learn AWS security on how amazing AWS is from AWS people, the same way Microsoft will be [unintelligible 00:19:10], however, when it comes down to actual formal education, like the kind that you and I are trying to provide through a podcast, me with the Cloud Security Podcast, you with Last Week in AWS in the Security Edition, that kind of unbiased formal education, like free education, like what you and I are doing does definitely exist and I guess I'm glad we have company, that you and I both exist in this space, but formal education is very limited. It's always behind, say an expensive paid wall sometimes, and rightly so because it's information that would be helpful. So yeah, those two things. Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by our friends at Uptycs. Attackers don't think in silos, so why would you have siloed solutions protecting cloud, containers, and laptops distinctly? Meet Uptycs - the first unified solution prioritizes risk across your modern attack surface—all from a single platform, UI, and data model. Stop by booth 3352 at AWS re:Invent in Las Vegas to see for yourself and visit uptycs.com. That's U-P-T-Y-C-S.com. Corey: One of the problems that I have with the way a lot of cloud security stuff is situated is that you need to have something running to care about the security of. Yeah, I can spin up a VM in the free tier of most of these environments, and okay, “How do I secure a single Linux box?” Okay, yes, there are a lot of things you can learn there, but it's very far from a holistic point of view. You need to have the infrastructure running at reasonable scale first, in order to really get an effective lab that isn't contrived.Now, Snyk is a security company. I absolutely understand and have no problem with the fact that you charge your customers money in order to get security outcomes that are better than they would have otherwise. I do not get why AWS and GCP charge extra for security. And I really don't get why Azure charges extra for security and then doesn't deliver security by dropping the ball on it, which is neither here nor there.Ashish: [laugh].Corey: It feels like there's an economic form of gatekeeping, where you must spend at least this much money—or work for someone who does—in order to get exposure to security the way that grownups think about it. Because otherwise, all right, I hit my own web server, I have ten lines in the logs. Now, how do I wind up doing an analysis run to figure out what happened? I pull it up on my screen and I look at it. You need a point of scale before anything that the modern world revolves around doesn't seem ludicrous.Ashish: That's a good point. Also because we don't talk about the responsibility that the cloud service provider has themselves for security, like the encryption example that I used earlier, as a guardrail, it doesn't take much for them to enable by default. But how many do that by default? I feel foolish sometimes to tell people that, “Hey, you should have encryption enabled on your storage which is addressed, or in transit.”It should be—like, we have services like Let's Encrypt and other services, which are trying to make this easily available to everyone so everyone can do SSL or HTTPS. And also, same goes for encryption. It's free and given the choice that you can go customer-based keys or your own key or whatever, but it should be something that should be default. We don't have to remind people, especially if you're the providers of the service. I agree with you on the, you know, very basic principle of why do I pay extra for security, when you should have already covered this for me as part of the service.Because hey, technically, aren't you also responsible in this conversation? But the way I see shared responsibility is that—someone on the podcast mentioned it and I think it's true—shared responsibility means no one's responsible. And this is the kind of world we're living in because of that.Corey: Shared responsibility has always been an odd concept to me because AWS is where I first encountered it and they, from my perspective, turn what fits into a tweet into a 45-minute dog-and-pony show around, “Ah, this is how it works. This is the part we're responsible for. This is the part where the customer responsibility is. Now, let's have a mind-numbingly boring conversation around it.” Whereas, yeah, there's a compression algorithm here. Basically, if the cloud gets breached, it is overwhelmingly likely that you misconfigured something on your end, not the provider doing it, unless it's Azure, which is neither here nor there, once again.The problem with that modeling, once you get a little bit more business sophistication than I had the first time I made the observation, is that you can't sit down with a CISO at a company that just suffered a data breach and have your conversation be, “Doesn't it suck to be you—[singing] duh, duh—because you messed up. That's it.” You need that dog-and-pony show of being able to go in-depth and nuance because otherwise, you're basically calling out your customer, which you can't really do. Which I feel occludes a lot of clarity for folks who are not in that position who want to understand these things a bit better.Ashish: You're right, Corey. I think definitely I don't want to be in a place where we're definitely just educating people on this, but I also want to call out that we are in a world where it is true that Amazon, Azure, Google Cloud, they all have vulnerabilities as well. Thanks to research by all these amazing people on the internet from different companies out there, they've identified that, hey, these are not pristine environments that you can go into. Azure, AWS, Google Cloud, they themselves have vulnerabilities, and sometimes some of those vulnerabilities cannot be fixed until the customer intervenes and upgrades their services. We do live in a world where there is not enough education about this as well, so I'm glad you brought this up because for people who are listening in, I mean, I was one of those people who would always say, “When was the last time you heard Amazon had a breach?” Or, “Microsoft had a breach?” Or, “Google Cloud had a breach?”That was the idea when people were just buying into the concept of cloud and did not trust cloud. Every cybersecurity person that I would talk to they're like, “Why would you trust cloud? Doesn't make sense.” But this is, like, seven, eight years ago. Fast-forward to today, it's almost default, “Why would you not go into cloud?”So, for people who tend to forget that part, I guess, there is definitely a journey that people came through. With the same example of multi-factor authentication, it was never a, “Hey, let's enable password and multi-factor authentication.” It took a few stages to get there. Same with this as well. We're at that stage where now cloud service providers are showing the kinks in the armor, and now people are questioning, “I should update my risk matrix for what if there's actually a breach in AWS?”Now, Capital One is a great example where the Amazon employee who was sentenced, she did something which has—never even [unintelligible 00:25:32] on before, opened up the door for that [unintelligible 00:25:36] CISO being potentially sentenced. There was another one. Because it became more primetime news, now people are starting to understand, oh, wait. This is not the same as it used to be. Cloud security breaches have evolved as well.And just sticking to the Uber point, when Uber has that recent breach where they were talking about, “Hey, so many data records were gone,” what a lot of people did not talk about in that same message, it also mentioned the fact that, hey, they also got access to the AWS console of Uber. Now, that to me, is my risk metrics has already gone higher than where it was before because it just not your data, but potentially your production, your pre-prod, any development work that you were doing for, I don't know, self-driving cars or whatever that Uber [unintelligible 00:26:18] is doing, all that is out on the internet. But who was talking about all of that? That's a much worse a breach than what was portrayed on the internet. I don't know, what do you think?Corey: When it comes to trusting providers, where I sit is that I think, given their scale, they need to be a lot more transparent than they have been historically. However, I also believe that if you do not trust that these companies are telling you the truth about what they're doing, how they're doing it, what their controls are, then you should not be using them as a customer, full stop. This idea of confidential computing drives me nuts because so much of it is, “Well, what if we assume our cloud provider is lying to us about all of these things?” Like, hypothetically there's nothing stopping them from building an exact clone of their entire control plane that they redirect your request to that do something completely different under the hood. “Oh, yeah, of course, we're encrypting it with that special KMS key.” No, they're not. For, “Yeah, sure we're going to put that into this region.” Nope, it goes right back to Virginia. If you believe that's what's going on and that they're willing to do that, you can't be in cloud.Ashish: Yeah, a hundred percent. I think foundational trust need to exist and I don't think the cloud service providers themselves do a great job of building that trust. And maybe that's where the drift comes in because the business has decided they're going to cloud. The cyber security people are trying to be more aware and asking the question, “Hey, why do we trust it so blindly? I don't have a pen test report from Amazon saying they have tested service.”Yes, I do have a certificate saying it's PCI compliant, but how do I know—to what you said—they haven't cloned our services? Fortunately, businesses are getting smarter. Like, Walmart would never have their resources in AWS because they don't trust them. It's a business risk if suddenly they decide to go into that space. But the other way around, Microsoft may decides tomorrow that they want to start their own Walmart. Then what do you do?So, I don't know how many people actually consider that as a real business risk, especially because there's a word that was floating around the internet called supercloud. And the idea behind this was—oh, I can already see your reaction [laugh].Corey: Yeah, don't get me started on that whole mess.Ashish: [laugh]. Oh no, I'm the same. I'm like, “What? What now?” Like, “What are you—” So, one thing I took away which I thought was still valuable was the fact that if you look at the cloud service providers, they're all like octopus, they all have tentacles everywhere.Like, if you look at the Amazon of the world, they not only a bookstore, they have a grocery store, they have delivery service. So, they are into a lot of industries, the same way Google Cloud, Microsoft, they're all in multiple industries. And they can still have enough money to choose to go into an industry that they had never been into before because of the access that they would get with all this information that they have, potentially—assuming that they [unintelligible 00:29:14] information. Now, “Shared responsibility,” quote-unquote, they should not do it, but there is nothing stopping them from actually starting a Walmart tomorrow if they wanted to.Corey: So, because a podcast and a day job aren't enough, what are you going to be doing in the near future given that, as we record this, re:Invent is nigh?Ashish: Yeah. So, podcasting and being in the YouTube space has definitely opened up the creative mindset for me. And I think for my producer as well. We're doing all these exciting projects. We have something called Cloud Security Villains that is coming up for AWS re:Invent, and it's going to be released on our YouTube channel as well as my social media.And we'll have merchandise for it across the re:Invent as well. And I'm just super excited about the possibility that media as a space provides for everyone. So, for people who are listening in and thinking that, I don't know, I don't want to write for a blog or email newsletter or whatever the thing may be, I just want to put it out there that I used to be excited about AWS re:Invent just to understand, hey, hopefully, they will release a new security service. Now, I get excited about these events because I get to meet community, help them, share what they have learned on the internet, and sound smarter [laugh] as a result of that as well, and get interviewed where people like yourself. But I definitely find that at the moment with AWS re:Invent coming in, a couple of things that are exciting for me is the release of the Cloud Security Villains, which I think would be an exciting project, especially—hint, hint—for people who are into comic books, you will definitely enjoy it, and I think your kids will as well. So, just in time for Christmas.Corey: We will definitely keep an eye out for that and put a link to that in the show notes. I really want to thank you for being so generous with your time. If people want to learn more about what you're up to, where's the best place for them to find you?Ashish: I think I'm fortunate enough to be at that stage where normally if people Google me—and it's simply Ashish Rajan—they will definitely find me [laugh]. I'll be really hard for them not find me on the internet. But if you are looking for a source of unbiased cloud security knowledge, you can definitely hit up cloudsecuritypodcast.tv or our YouTube and LinkedIn channel.We go live stream every week with a new guest talking about cloud security, which could be companies like LinkedIn, Twilio, to name a few that have come on the show already, and a lot more than have come in and been generous with their time and shared how they do what they do. And we're fortunate that we get ranked top 100 in America, US, UK, as well as Australia. I'm really fortunate for that. So, we're doing something right, so hopefully, you get some value out of it as well when you come and find me.Corey: And we will, of course, put links to all of that in the show notes. Thank you so much for being so generous with your time. I really appreciate it.Ashish: Thank you, Corey, for having me. I really appreciate this a lot. I enjoyed the conversation.Corey: As did I. Ashish Rajan, Principal Cloud Security Advocate at Snyk who is sponsoring this promoted guest episode. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn, and this is Screaming in the Cloud. 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Hacker Valley: On the Road is a curated collection of conversations that Chris and Ron have had during conferences and events around the globe. In this episode, Cloud Security Podcast's Ashish Rajan and Shilpi Bhattacharjee speak with the Hacker Valley team at AISA CyberCon in Melbourne, Australia. Ashish and Shilpi discuss their respective talks on supply chain security and zero trust technology, SBOMs, and keynote speakers at this year's Cybercon worth noting for the audience at home. Timecoded Guide: [00:00] Connecting & conversing at a cyber conference post-COVID [06:50] Breaking down Shilpi's presentation on supply chain threats & attacks [11:45] Understanding the paradoxes & limitations of zero trust with Ashish's talk [26:13] Defining & explaining SBOM, or Software Bill of Materials [33:16] Noticing key conversations & trends for those who didn't attend AISA Cybercon Sponsor Links: Thank you to our sponsor Axonius for bringing this episode to life! The Axonius solution correlates asset data from existing solutions to provide an always up-to-date inventory, uncover gaps, and automate action — giving IT and security teams the confidence to control complexity. Learn more at axonius.com/hackervalley Shilpi, can you talk about the idea behind the talk you had at CyberCon? The inspiration behind Shilpi's conference talk was supply chain issues. Titling her talk, “Who's Protecting Your Software in Supply Chain,” Shilpi hoped to further educate and advocate for security in the supply chain process. An estimated one in two companies will experience a supply chain attack in the coming years. Instead of fearing such a statistic, Shilpi hopes her talk inspired further security action to protect our supply chains. “One staggering fact that I read is that one in every two companies is going to have some sort of a supply chain attack in the next three years. So, who's going to look after the supply chain? Is it going to be the organization? Is it going to be your third-party vendors?” —Shilpi Ashish, what about your talk at Cybercon? In contrast, Ashish's talk was about the triple paradox of zero trust. When talking about and implementing zero trust, Ashish realized many companies don't implement the cultural changes needed for zero trust and/or only talk about zero trust as a technology process. Zero trust has numerous layers beyond technology, and requires time and major changes in culture and technology to implement in most companies. “I feel bad for bashing on finance, marketing, and HR teams. They're all smart people, but if you're going to add four or five layers of security for them, they almost always say, ‘I just want to do my job. I don't really care about this. It's your job to do security.'” —Ashish Where would you recommend starting when it comes to trying to implement the ideas in your respective talks? When push comes to shove about where cyber companies can start first with supply chain and zero trust, Ashish and Shilpi agree that companies have to discuss business priorities. When company leaders can take the opportunity to look at and understand their cyber hygiene, the next steps might look very different from another company's tactics. Knowing what a business has is the foundational piece that impacts any new process in cyber. “If I were to go back to the first principle of what we do with cybersecurity professionals, one of the biggest assets that we're all trying to protect is data. You can't protect what you can't see, that's the foundational piece.” —Ashish For anyone that wasn't able to make the conference, what is one thing that you would want to share with the audience at home? There were a lot of conversations taking place at Cybercon this year. Ashish wants the audience at home to know that cloud native, zero trust, supply chain, and leadership positions like CISOs were the main themes in many talks, panels, and conversations. Shilpi wants those who couldn't attend to watch out for more talks and conversations about cyber from those outside of the industry to understand that the issues impacting cyber influence the world. “I think there's that interest about cybersecurity being more than just a cybersecurity problem. Cybersecurity is not just a technical problem, it's a societal problem, a cultural problem. I very much agree, because a lot of the things that we're dealing with impacts everyone.” —Shilpi --------------- Links: Keep up with our guest Ashish Rajan on LinkedIn Keep up with our guest Shilpi Bhattacharjee on LinkedIn Listen to Ashish and Shilpi's Cloud Security Podcast Connect with Ron Eddings on LinkedIn and Twitter Connect with Chris Cochran on LinkedIn and Twitter Purchase a HVS t-shirt at our shop Continue the conversation by joining our Discord Check out Hacker Valley Media and Hacker Valley Studio
This episode was recorded within minutes of me meeting Shilpi & Ashish from the Cloud Security Podcast in-person. They were in Amsterdam for a conference and swung by to make this happen.
Ashish Rajan does SO many things. He is the producer and host of Cloud Security Podcast, the Head of Security & Compliance at PageUp, a Course Instructor at SANS Institute, a Faculty at IANS, a trainer, an AWS builder, and the founder of the DevSECOps Melbourne meetup and Cybersecurity for Startups— and he even has time to have beef with Ryan Reynolds. We asked Ashish on the podcast to find out how he does it all in cybersecurity, as well as his thoughts on cyber marketing and the latest focus on PLG. Timecoded Guide: [00:00] Introducing the many roles of Ashish, including his meetups with Cloud Security and DevSecOps in London [05:21] Missed cyber education opportunities with Ryan Reynolds' 1Password commercial [15:02] Vendor process for product purchasing, right from the mouth of a CISO [25:07] Product lead growth (PLG) and how security product become eligible for PLG [34:44] Ashish's strategy for consistent multi platform social media marketing Recently, you were in London for an event. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Ashish takes his many roles in cyber and tech super seriously, managing to schedule a variety of professional meetups and live streams on his trip to London. Originally planning to travel for personal reasons, Ashish found himself working with DevSecOps, planning a meetup for Cloud Security, and working through a very different, yet very tech savvy live stream setup. Consistency is key from Ashish's perspective— rain or shine, he's been running this live stream for three years, which is a huge commitment but a worthwhile investment in his audience. “The whole thing took exactly a week to plan, and I think it was really fascinating that we just announced a meetup with the DevSecOps London group over there. We had about 120 people turn up for that event. That was great.” What was your opinion on Ryan Reynolds' ad for 1Password? Ashish had some choice words on a recent Ryan Reynolds' commercial online, but we wanted to pick his brain even further. Does Ashish have beef with Ryan? It turns out, not really (although he is definitely open to working with him), but he does think Ryan and 1Password missed an opportunity to further cyber education. With that wide of a platform and that prominent of a figure, Ashish would have liked to see Ryan and his team break down the necessity of strong, secure passwords, as well as advocate for everyday people to consider the security threats they might encounter. “I thought: Why not use that video as a way to educate and piggyback on the thing that Ryan Reynolds was trying to talk about? But give it a more cybersecurity value spin. So, the video that I made was more around what he was really trying to talk about.” What are your opinions about marketing in the cyber vendor space? As a CISO friend of the Cybersecurity Marketing Society, we know we can count on Ashish to notice and pay attention to solid marketing strategy in the cyber industry. A major pain point, not only for us, but for Ashish, has been a lack of creative freedom amongst marketing teams in the industry. Ashish has felt honestly disappointed by the tough constraints that certain cyber companies have placed on their marketing departments, including forcing them to color inside the lines of board and investor opinions on marketing strategies. “I feel the true marketing is where you're just giving value. Someone buying the product is literally just a byproduct of this. You've given so much value, it doesn't make sense to the person to not buy the product.” Can you expand on your thoughts around PLG? PLG, or Product Lead Growth, just might be the future for developers in the cyber community. Developers have a voice, and Ashish has encountered a few companies ready to listen to those voices— even though their competitors still might not be. Using ease of adoption, or how fast someone can get used to your product, and time of value, or how fast a developer can see the results of your product, PLG is not only achievable, but profitable. PLG is already happening, according to Ashish, and it's only a matter of time before companies will have to start asking themselves: How do we convince the developers? “Once you've got there, is it going to take 1 week for them to get the result? Or, is it going to be a few seconds? No developer is going to spend more than an hour waiting for this result.” ---------- Links: Spend some time with our guest Ashish Rajan on his website, LinkedIn, and Twitter. Follow Gianna on LinkedIn. Catch up with Maria on LinkedIn. Join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society on our website, and keep up with us on Twitter. Keep up with Hacker Valley on our website, LinkedIn, Instagram, and Twitter. The Candy Industry website has a candy-related podcast.
In this episode we went to RSA and spoke with Ashish Rajan who is the host of the Cloud Security Podcast. We talk about all things cloud security in this episode. We had a great conversation and I hope everyone enjoys it! If you enjoy the podcast please go leave a review on the platform you listen, like it & share the podcast. You can also follow the podcast on social media at the links below.Follow the Podcast on Social Media!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secunfpodcast/Twitter: https://twitter.com/SecUnfPodcastPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/SecurityUnfilteredPodcastAshish's Links:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishrajan/https://cloudsecuritypodcast.tv/Support the show
If you could create a cybersecurity advocacy position, what would it look like? In this latest episode of the DevSec for Scale Podcast, Ashish Rajan, CISO at PageUp People and host of the Cyber Security Podcast (cybersecuritypodcast.tv), talks with Jeremy about why cybersecurity needs advocates the way developers have. He also speaks about the how a cybersecurity and cloud security advocacy program could help the industry immensely.
Third party cloud platforms as a cybersecurity first principle strategy. As we learned from the deep dive into Azure, AWS, and GCP, none of the primary cloud providers check the box for every security first principle. To do so, Rick looks at third party cloud security providers. In this session, Rick and the Hash Table discuss big security platforms like Fortinet, Cisco, Check Point, and Palo Alto Networks. We discover that comprehensive security orchestration across all data islands is the key, so much so that Rick adds orchestration as one of the five primary first principles. With Rick Howard, the Cyberwire's CSO and Chief Analyst and three guests: Ram Boreda, a Palo Alto Networks Field CTO, Joakim Lialias, a Product Marketing Director at Cisco, and Ashish Rajan, the host of the Cloud Security Podcast. Cybersecurity professional development and continued education. You will learn about: third party security platforms as first principle tools, cloud security orchestration, virtual firewalls and first principle strategies, converging cloud security tools into a single platform CyberWire is the world's most trusted news source for cybersecurity information and situational awareness. Join the conversation with Rick Howard on LinkedIn and Twitter, and follow CyberWire on social media and join our community of security professionals: LinkedIn, Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, Instagram Additional first principles resources for your cybersecurity program. For more third party cloud platforms and cybersecurity first principles resources, check the topic essay.
From cloud security providers to open source, trust has become the foundation from which an organization's security is built. But with the rise of cloud-native technologies such as containers and infrastructure as code (IaC), it has ushered in new ways to build applications and requirements that are challenging the traditional approaches to security. The changing nature of the cloud-native landscape is requiring broader security coverage across the technology stack and more contextual awareness of the environment. But how should teams like Infosec, DevOps rethink their approach to security?In this episode of The New Stack Makers podcast, Guy Eisenkot, co-founder and vice president of product at Bridgecrew, Barak Schoster Goihman, senior director, chief architect at Palo Alto Networks and Ashish Rajan, head of security and compliance at PageUp and producer and host for Cloud Security Podcast preview what's to come at Palo Alto Network's Code to Cloud Summit on March 23-24, 2022, including the role of security and trust as it relates to DevOps, cloud service providers, software supply chain, SBOM (Software Bill of materials) and IBOM (Infrastructure Bill of Material),Alex Williams, founder and publisher of The New Stack hosted this podcast.
Today we have a fun episode lined up for you! Over the last year of 2021, we've been honored to have some incredibly smart people on the show to share their views and practices in the DevSecCon space with us all. And in each episode, they were asked a slightly open-ended question: if you took out your crystal ball and you thought about someone sitting in your position or your type of role in five years' time, what would be most different about their reality? For this special installment, we've put together some highlights of these brilliant answers! Hear perspectives that cover everything from changes on the data, AI, and ML front to the idea of ownership when it comes to security. We also touch on the increased fragmentation in the DevOps scene that we're going to need to work with, bigger picture concerns about how regulation might be different in five years, and some final optimistic predictions on ways we could all be in a much better place! We hear some golden nuggets from the likes of Robert wood from CMS, cybersecurity influencer Ashish Rajan, Liz Rice from eBPF pioneers Isovalent, our very own Simon Maple who weighs in with his concrete expectations of what will happen, Dev Akhawe, Daniel Bryant, Rinki Sethi, and so many more! So to hear what these top industry professionals have to say about the future, join us today!
Cloud Security News this week 22 December 2021 Most folks in cybersecurity have been consumed with all things Log4shell with a CVSS score of 10, since last week. Check out last week's episode or our special feature on Log4shell on YouTube by Ashish Rajan if you want to know a bit more about how it started and what its all about So, where have things landed with it all so far. To remedy the Log4Shell vulnerability, Apache has issues several patches however with each patch, additional issues were reported. The latest patch is the third installment 2.17.0 to address a new vulnerability that allow for denial of service attacks. While apache and other organisations rush to remedy and patch these vulnerabilities, an explosion of attacks continue. Belgium's defence ministry revealed that it had been forced to shut down parts of its network after a hacker group exploited log4j to gain entry to its systems. Security firm Check Point has been monitoring the situation and, at one point, reported seeing more than 100 Log4J attacks per minute.The hackers are scattered globally. Checkpoint further reported that more than half of the exploits come from well-known hacking groups using it to deploy common malware like Tsunami and Mirai. Sentinel one has reported that “Observed exploit attempts in the wild thus far have led to commodity cryptominer payloads or other known and commodity post-exploitation methods. They expect further opportunistic abuse by a wide variety of attackers, including ransomware and nation-state actors.” The latest apache update is available here. The SentinelOne blog is available here and Checkpoint blog is available here, Whilst we are scrambling to stay on top log4Shell, a few exciting things have occurred in the world of Cloud Security as well, Ermetic announced a $70 million series B funding round. Their platform secures cloud infrastructure by focusing on identity security and reducing the attack surface across a multi-cloud deployment. The platform is expanding its support for Kubernetes container orchestration which they refer to like the fourth cloud. Learn more about Ermetic here. And in other news Container and cloud security unicorn Sysdig scored $350 million in a Series G funding. This raises their total funding to $744 million and pushes valuation to $2.5 billion. Sysdig offers security and performance monitoring services tailored toward cloud-native applications and are looking to utilise the latest funding to accelerate the expansion of these services into new markets, increase its headcount and customer base, and invest in research and development. Learn more about Sysdig here
Cloud Security News this week 22 December 2021 Most folks in cybersecurity have been consumed with all things Log4shell with a CVSS score of 10, since last week. Check out last week's episode or our special feature on Log4shell on YouTube by Ashish Rajan if you want to know a bit more about how it started and what its all about So, where have things landed with it all so far. To remedy the Log4Shell vulnerability, Apache has issues several patches however with each patch, additional issues were reported. The latest patch is the third installment 2.17.0 to address a new vulnerability that allow for denial of service attacks. While apache and other organisations rush to remedy and patch these vulnerabilities, an explosion of attacks continue. Belgium's defence ministry revealed that it had been forced to shut down parts of its network after a hacker group exploited log4j to gain entry to its systems. Security firm Check Point has been monitoring the situation and, at one point, reported seeing more than 100 Log4J attacks per minute.The hackers are scattered globally. Checkpoint further reported that more than half of the exploits come from well-known hacking groups using it to deploy common malware like Tsunami and Mirai. Sentinel one has reported that “Observed exploit attempts in the wild thus far have led to commodity cryptominer payloads or other known and commodity post-exploitation methods. They expect further opportunistic abuse by a wide variety of attackers, including ransomware and nation-state actors.” The latest apache update is available here. The SentinelOne blog is available here and Checkpoint blog is available here, Whilst we are scrambling to stay on top log4Shell, a few exciting things have occurred in the world of Cloud Security as well, Ermetic announced a $70 million series B funding round. Their platform secures cloud infrastructure by focusing on identity security and reducing the attack surface across a multi-cloud deployment. The platform is expanding its support for Kubernetes container orchestration which they refer to like the fourth cloud. Learn more about Ermetic here. And in other news Container and cloud security unicorn Sysdig scored $350 million in a Series G funding. This raises their total funding to $744 million and pushes valuation to $2.5 billion. Sysdig offers security and performance monitoring services tailored toward cloud-native applications and are looking to utilise the latest funding to accelerate the expansion of these services into new markets, increase its headcount and customer base, and invest in research and development. Learn more about Sysdig here Podcast Twitter - Cloud Security Podcast (@CloudSecPod) Instagram - Cloud Security News If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes, check out: - Cloud Security Podcast: - Cloud Security Academy:
In this video, Ashish Rajan, cybersecurity executive and cloud security expert about the DevSecOps role, what it is, whats great about it, whats tough about it, and how YOU can get the skills to take on that role. simplycyber.io
This week, we welcome Ashish Rajan, Head of Security & Podcast Host at Cloud Security Podcast, to discuss Security Champions in an Online First World! Ashish will talk about building a security champion in an online world and how SAST as it stands today will die in the world of DevOps and Cloud. This week in the AppSec News: Malware in the UAParser.js npm package, security vuln in Squirrel scripting language, a blueprint for securing software development, L0phtCrack now open source, appsec videos on Android exploitation, macOS security, & more! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw171 Segment Resources: www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/securityweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly
This week, we welcome Ashish Rajan, Head of Security & Podcast Host at Cloud Security Podcast, to discuss Security Champions in an Online First World! Ashish will talk about building a security champion in an online world and how SAST as it stands today will die in the world of DevOps and Cloud. This week in the AppSec News: Malware in the UAParser.js npm package, security vuln in Squirrel scripting language, a blueprint for securing software development, L0phtCrack now open source, appsec videos on Android exploitation, macOS security, & more! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw171 Segment Resources: www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/securityweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly
Ashish will talk about building a security champion in an online world and how SAST as it stands today will die in the world of DevOps and Cloud. Segment Resources: www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw171
Ashish will talk about building a security champion in an online world and how SAST as it stands today will die in the world of DevOps and Cloud. Segment Resources: www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw171
We reached the milestone of 50 Episodes on season 4 and celebrated with a live with 3 podcasts around the world. This is the recorded session of the live. Francesco Cipollone interview three hosts of cyber podcasts— Chris Cochran of Hacker Valley Studio, Allan Alford of Cyber Ranch Podcast, Ashish Rajan of Cloud Security Podcast. The four discuss the labour of love for podcasting, hacks for growing an audience, dream guests, post-process, most memorable episodes, and scouting bigger and bigger guests. All agree that passion and consistency are key to having a successful podcast. The episode is brought you by Security Phoenix Ltd with the AppSec Phoenix platform you can make Application Security and Software development finally easy. Follow the tag #appsecsmart https://www.securityphoenix.com get a free 30-day licence quoting CSCP https://landing.securityphoenix.com/alpha 0:00 Intro 0:47 Introducing Chris, Allan, Ashish 3:45 How similar are App Sec and Cloud Sec 4:03 Chris's past year podcasting 5:48 Allan's past year podcasting 7:16 Ashish's past year podcasting 9:52 Behind the scenes 17:46 Passion and consistency 19:26 Post-process and editing 24:45 Most memorable episodes 32:08 Perks of having a podcast 35:55 Ambitions, goals, dreams guests 37:34 Business side of cyber security 41:32 Scouting guests 51:09 How to connect and final positive message 57:17 Outro Chris Cochran— Host of Hacker Valley Studio https://hackervalley.com Twitter @chriscochrcyber https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscochrancyber/ Allan Alford— Host of Cyber Ranch Podcast https://allanalford.com/the-cyber-ranch-podcast https://hackervalley.com/cyberranch/ Twitter @AllanAlfordinTX https://www.linkedin.com/in/allanalford/ Ashish Rajan— Host of Cloud Security Podcast https://www.cloudsecuritypodcast.tv Twitter @hashishrajan Francesco Cipollone— Cyber Security and Cloud Podcast #CSCP #cybermentoringmonday cybercloudpodcast.com Twitter @FrankSEC42 Cyber Security and Cloud Podcast #CSCP #cybermentoringmonday http://cybercloudpodcast.com
Hello All! In this podcast we interview Ashish Rajan about security, security in the cloud, empathy, and other topics!Disclaimer:The opinions and views expressed on this podcast belong to the host(s) and in no way expresses (or represents) any organization or company.This show is for cybersecurity discussion, opinions, and parody.Support the show (https://www.buymeacoff.ee/secunf)
In today's episode of the Secure Developer, Guy Podjarny is joined by Ashish Rajan, who is currently the Global Head of Security for a forward-thinking product company called PageUp in Melbourne, Australia. Ashish has been described as something of a cybersecurity influencer, due in large part to his very successful Cloud Security Podcast, which is on the cusp of hitting the 40,000-download mark. He also has a passion for building communities by speaking and organizing meetups and conferences in the cybersecurity space. In today's conversation, Guy and Ashish talk about the challenges of starting in a new security position when working remotely during the COVID pandemic and how to build trust and validity. Ashish expands on the concept of security champions and why this title can be given to anyone in a company with an interest in incorporating security into their day-to-day tasks, so tune in today for an in-depth discussion on cloud security and what the future holds!
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