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Why are more churches rediscovering and reciting the Nicene Creed? And what can the ancient articulation of Christian belief offer the church in these divided times? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the 1700th anniversary of the creed and its place in the modern church. The Bible is critical to our faith, but have we been taught to worship the Bible rather than the God of the Bible? Dave Ripper, the author of “Experiencing Scripture as a Disciple of Jesus,” explains how Dallas Willard engaged the Bible and how it can become a source of transformation, not just information. Also this week: What qualifies as anti-Christian behavior, an update on Afghan and Afrikaner refugees, and scientists discover auras are real. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/129442102/ Bonus Interview with Dave Ripper: https://www.patreon.com/posts/129463513/ 0:00 - Show Starts 3:35 - Theme Song 3:55 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 5:15 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month 7:45 - Do Mice glow? 19:30 - Shane Claiborne Arrested 25:20 - The Nicene Creed's Birthday! 31:30 - Why's the Creed Popular Right Now? 52:12 - Sponsor - Timeless designs, great fabrics. Perfect swimwear for your kids this summer! Check out Minnow at https://www.shopminnow.com enter SHOPMINNOW15 for 15% off your first order. 53:20 - Sponsor - Policy Genius - Secure your family's tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 54:32 - Interview 56:55 - How Did Ripper First Meet Willard? 1:03:50 - Jesus is a Genius 1:10:20 - Sin Management 1:22:50 - Memorizing Scripture 1:29:38 - End Credits Links from News Segment: People Glow Til They Die! https://nationalpost.com/news/calgary-researchers-discover-that-life-has-a-literal-glow Shane Claiborne Arrested! https://religionnews.com/2025/05/05/shane-claiborne-four-other-faith-activists-arrested-while-prayerfully-protesting-gop-budget-bill/ Popularity of the Nicene Creed https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/05/nicene-creed-anniversary-conference-ancient-christianity-trinity-theology/ Fox News and Christian Refugees https://www.foxnews.com/politics/afghan-christian-pastor-pleads-trump-warns-taliban-revenge-after-admin-revokes-refugee-protections?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user%2FFoxNews Other Resources: Experiencing Scripture as a Disciple of Jesus: Reading the Bible like Dallas Willard by Dave Ripper: https://a.co/d/8oWLI3i Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
Summary Michael and Jeff discuss the challenges of measuring spiritual maturity and the need for a deeper understanding of faith that goes beyond mere rule-following. 00:00 Opening09:04 Exploring Centered Set Church Concepts30:57 Bounded vs. Centered Churches38:06 Leadership in Bounded vs. Centered Models42:28 Blood, Ink, and Pencil Issues in Faith46:54 Centered Approach to Faith and Community50:04 The Challenge of Sin Management vs. Image Bearing51:59 Digging Wells vs. Building Fences
Halfway to heaven is still all the way to hell. Do u feel like your life is out of control?We like to choose control over surrender. But we have to come to terms with the truth that in order for the Gospel to work we have to discover what true surrender looks like. Listen in to change everything.
0:00:00-0:001:20-Intro 00:1:20-00:7:00-Daniel's #5 (A Community of Prayerful Love) 00:7:00-00:12:20- Luke's #5 (Jesus is Smart) 00:12:20-00:23:11-Luke's #4 and Daneil's #3 (Our God Bathed World) 00:23:11-00:33:39-Luke's #3 (Dealing With Your Life) 00:33:39-00:45:50-Daniel and Luke's #2 (Gospels of Sin Management) 00:45:50-01:00:12-Daniel and Luke's #1 (Becoming the Kind of Person) Follow us on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-belfast-podcast/id1472441982 Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1s3aaP3pUkQKBVXbsP8Y34?si=ca588a6165424c61 I nstagram: @thebelfastpodcast Email: belfastpodcast@gmail.com The Belfast Podcast exists to help recapture the Christian imagination. Luke and Daniel see the trend of modernism doing no favors for a vibrant view of scripture. Our goal is to widen the field of vision for modern people reading the Bible as we grapple with its ancient context, literary beauty, and symbolic underpinnings. You may have been taught to read texts with an eye for their literary and symbolic structures in English courses in high school and/or college, but rarely is this taught to seminary students or lay Christians alike when it comes to the Bible. We want to keep this eye for symbolism, repetition, and structure as we investigate the Biblical canon, linking it to modern and old examples that are extemporaneous yet connected to aid in giving the broader field of vision mentioned earlier. Come along with us on our journey to reread your bible for the first time. We hope that through the words of those who have come before us, we can give Western Christianity its imagination back.
What is the difference between Grace Doctrine and Legalism? Are we eternally secure or can we backslide from salvation? There are truths to be learned from the story of Cain and Abel that some of us may have never thought of. So much of our faith revolves around "Sin Management" we are content to live beneath our calling. Time Codes0:00 - intro0:29 - Genesis 5:6-86:30 - God was furious with mankind and ready to destroy everything8:07 - Satan is betting on our favor all the time. The great accuser.13:21 - Enoch was alive in the time when God wanted to destroy everything.16:54 - Are our thoughts sin?21:44 - Evil thoughts are no more sin, than Godly thoughts are righteousness27:15 - Closing thoughts.Support Conway tabernacle through online giving:https://give.tithe.ly/?formId=b4ea3117-4ed7-4c98-b00d-1037fee72856Follow Not Gospel Studios YouTube to stay up to date on original music, books, podcast, and a streaming webs-series and Christian mokumenterary series (BIG little Church). Listen to the Not Gospel Podcast everywhere Podcasts are streamed!Spotify @ shorturl.at/egET0Player FM @ https://player.fm/series/2976179Apple Podcasts @ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...Please LIKE my pages and Follow!Stay up to date on my website www.wordsbycliff.comFollow me on: Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/NotGospelbyC...Amazon @ shorturl.at/moHP8Man Of God Paperback available NOW!#originalsin #adamandeve #christianmarraige #betterlife #christiancomedian #biblestudy #creation #genesis #sundayschool #christianpodcast #biblecommentary #evolution #notgospel #hoggospel
What is the difference between Grace Doctrine and Legalism? Are we eternally secure or can we backslide from salvation? There are truths to be learned from the story of Cain and Abel that some of us may have never thought of. So much of our faith revolves around "Sin Management" we are content to live beneath our calling. Time Codes0:00 - intro0:51 - What the Bible says about the offerings of Cain and Abel2:54 - Cain might not have had a choice being a worker of the soil.3:49 - Why was Abel's sacrifice "More Excellent" than Cain's?7:45 - God Loved Cain, and had plans for his family.10:25 - Cain's response and God's Judgement.13:04 - Legalism Versus Grace20:54 - The better way to live. Godliness22:30 - Jordan Peterson and the Beauty Metaphor.26:05 - Make something in your daily life, as God-focused as possible.30:37 - Closing thoughtsSupport Conway tabernacle through online giving:https://give.tithe.ly/?formId=b4ea3117-4ed7-4c98-b00d-1037fee72856Follow Not Gospel Studios YouTube to stay up to date on original music, books, podcast, and a streaming webs-series and Christian mokumenterary series (BIG little Church). Listen to the Not Gospel Podcast everywhere Podcasts are streamed!Spotify @ shorturl.at/egET0Player FM @ https://player.fm/series/2976179Apple Podcasts @ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...Please LIKE my pages and Follow!Stay up to date on my website www.wordsbycliff.comFollow me on: Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/NotGospelbyC...Amazon @ shorturl.at/moHP8Man Of God Paperback available NOW!
"The gospel of sin management" is a phrase that was coined by Dallas Willard. For Joseph Lewis, that phrase perfectly encapsulates the way many people make being a Christian primarily about avoiding sin and following a set of rules. In this thought-provoking episode, Wes McAdams and Joseph Lewis expose the problems with reducing Christianity to mere moralism. They discuss how an obsessive focus on not sinning can paradoxically make us more likely to sin, as well as undermine the true meaning of the gospel. The post The Gospel of Sin Management with Joseph Lewis appeared first on Radically Christian.
A study based off the life of Samson. Like, Share, and Subscribe! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/modernchristiandudes/support
A study based off the life of Samson. Like, Share, and Subscribe! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/modernchristiandudes/support
You can't manage sin. A case study on the life of Samson. Like, Share, and Subscribe! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/modernchristiandudes/support
A 4 part series based on the life of Sampson. Like, Share, and Subscribe! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/modernchristiandudes/support
It's our default to manage our lives. We try to control the direction and outcomes of our thoughts, words, and deeds. We even try to manage our sin problem by fixing it, balancing the bad with the good or trying to outrun our sin with a fresh start. Dr. John teaches that we can't manage our sins away. Even the sacrifices of Old Covenant could not solve the problem of sin. Only a perfect Saviour has the power to put an end to sin.Jesus, Our Sacrifice: The God of promises has given two great covenants. Today many tend to ignore the principles and patterns of the "Old Covenant." The author of Hebrews does not. The Old Covenant is mandatory to understand the New Covenant. These two great promises must be held together. In this 10-message series from Hebrews, Dr. John Neufeld explains the vital value of the first covenant and its glorious fulfillment by Jesus. The pattern and practices of the tabernacle illuminate the treasure of God's grace offered to all through the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus.
Fr. Ryan preached this homily on May 14, 2023 at St Basil the Great Catholic Church in Brecksville, OH. The Sunday readings are from The Sunday readings are from Acts 8:5-8, 14-17, Ps 66:1-3, 4-5, 6-7, 16, 20, 1 Pt 3:15-18 & Jn 14:15-21.
Mother's Day 2023
#thegospel #Sinmanagment #christianity Continuing our journey through The Divine Conspiracy brings us to chapter 2, "Gospels of Sin Management." Follow us on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-belfast-podcast/id1472441982. Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1s3aaP3pUkQKBVXbsP8Y34?si=ca588a6165424c61 Instagram: @thebelfastpodcast Email: belfastpodcast@gmail.com Help Luke go to England this Summer: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-me-travel-to-study-cs-lewis The Belfast Podcast exists to help recapture the Christain imagination. Luke and Daniel see the trend of modernism doing no favors for a vibrant view of scripture. It is our goal to widen the field of vision for modern people reading the Bible as we grapple with its ancient context, literary beauty, and symbolic underpinnings. You may have been taught to read texts with an eye for their literary and symbolic structures in English courses in high school and/or college, but rarely is this taught to seminary students or lay Christians alike when it comes to the Bible. We want to keep this eye for symbolism, repetition, and structure as we investigate the Biblical canon, linking it to modern and old examples that are extemporaneous yet connected to aid in giving the broader field of vision mentioned earlier. Come along with us on our journey to read your bible again for the first time. We hope that through the words of those that have come before us, we can give Western Christianity its imagination back.
#thegospel #Sinmanagment #christianity Continuing our journey through The Divine Conspiracy brings us to chapter 2, "Gospels of Sin Management." Follow us on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-belfast-podcast/id1472441982 Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1s3aaP3pUkQKBVXbsP8Y34?si=ca588a6165424c61 Instagram: @thebelfastpodcast Email: belfastpodcast@gmail.com Help Luke go to England this Summer: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-me-travel-to-study-cs-lewis The Belfast Podcast exists to help recapture the Christain imagination. Luke and Daniel see the trend of modernism doing no favors for a vibrant view of scripture. It is our goal to widen the field of vision for modern people reading the Bible as we grapple with its ancient context, literary beauty, and symbolic underpinnings. You may have been taught to read texts with an eye for their literary and symbolic structures in English courses in high school and/or college, but rarely is this taught to seminary students or lay Christians alike when it comes to the Bible. We want to keep this eye for symbolism, repetition, and structure as we investigate the Biblical canon, linking it to modern and old examples that are extemporaneous yet connected to aid in giving the broader field of vision mentioned earlier. Come along with us on our journey to read your bible again for the first time. We hope that through the words of those that have come before us, we can give Western Christianity its imagination back.
Breaking the Law - Week 1 - Sin Management by The Summit Church
#thegospel #Sinmanagment #christianity Continuing our journey through The Divine Conspiracy brings us to chapter 2, "Gospels of Sin Management." Follow us on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-belfast-podcast/id1472441982 Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1s3aaP3pUkQKBVXbsP8Y34?si=ca588a6165424c61 Instagram: @thebelfastpodcast Email: belfastpodcast@gmail.com Help Luke go to England this Summer: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-me-travel-to-study-cs-lewis The Belfast Podcast exists to help recapture the Christain imagination. Luke and Daniel see the trend of modernism doing no favors for a vibrant view of scripture. It is our goal to widen the field of vision for modern people reading the Bible as we grapple with its ancient context, literary beauty, and symbolic underpinnings. You may have been taught to read texts with an eye for their literary and symbolic structures in English courses in high school and/or college, but rarely is this taught to seminary students or lay Christians alike when it comes to the Bible. We want to keep this eye for symbolism, repetition, and structure as we investigate the Biblical canon, linking it to modern and old examples that are extemporaneous yet connected to aid in giving the broader field of vision mentioned earlier. Come along with us on our journey to read your bible again for the first time. We hope that through the words of those that have come before us, we can give Western Christianity its imagination back.
"Did Jesus really say....?" The teachings of Jesus are timeless, instructive, and life-changing. But what did Jesus say? In this new sermon series we're going to work our way through the gospel of John, looking specifically at the “Red Letters" - the words of Jesus (which are in red ink in some Bibles). We hope you'll join us for this series and find out what Jesus wants us to know, from His own words.
The gospel is about all that God created us to be. Not just managing sin, but living life with God and ruling creation with Him. Without downplaying the barrier of our sin that is overcome in Jesus' death and resurrection, Kyle Stoltzfus urges us to see the large, rich picture that God has in mind for our living “in Christ.” In light of that, our practical struggle against sinful actions, becomes a fight for our true selves which are found in Christ. The phrase "gospel of sin management" and the analogy of the barcode come from Dallas Willard's book, The Divine Conspiracy.This is the 179th episode of Anabaptist Perspectives, a podcast, blog, and YouTube channel that examines various aspects of conservative Anabaptist life and thought. Visit our YouTube channel Connect with us on Facebook Read essays from our blog or listen to them on our podcast, Essays for King JesusSubscribe on your podcast provider of choiceSupport us or learn more about us!The views expressed by our guests are solely their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Anabaptist Perspectives or Wellspring Mennonite Church.
We continue our series in the Gospel according to Mark by looking at common false gospels present in our world today.
In American history the Fundamentalist/Modernist controversy of the earth 20th century explains a lot. In this episode on Dallas Willard's The Divine Conspiracy Michael Stewart Robb talks about how the right and the left of today's church share many common characteristics. They both, as Willard says, teach a gospel of sin management. But they also share in a typically American way of seeking good in the world. And in the end everybody is messed up and failure is normal. BE INFORMED and PRAY for us better by signing up for the Sanctus newsletter: https://sanctus.institute
In this episode we tackle the topic of how we get our sin under control. Does it happen by us trying harder, is it a work of the Holy Spirit, or a combination? We are once again joined by our last episode's guest, Shay Hurley to chime in on this hot topic. Join us as we discuss.
Today I get to share my conversation with you with the wise and gracious John Basie. John is presently the Director of Impact 360 Institute's Masters program. The heart of the Impact 360 Institute is to “cultivate leaders who follow Jesus.” John and the rest of the staff are passionate about discipleship and asking questions about what it looks like to be an apprentice of Jesus and becoming someone who is seeking to be like Jesus. Discipling Gen Z is the specific focus at the institute as well as with the book John edited and wrote in partnership with many other contributors called Know Be Live: A 360 Degree Approach Discipleship in a Post-Christian Era, as they are the next generation of leaders in this world and in the Kingdom of God. However, the gift of this book's message is something we all truly need to turn our hearts to. The book examines that we are all discipled by something or someone. What are the forces that have discipled the next generation, and who are we allowing to continue to disciple us? He also walks us through what it means to say that we live in a “post-Christian culture,” and with that what do we do about it? How do we engage the world in this state? We're called to pivot our methods, not diminish the message. This next generation is living bombarded by confusion and loud voices, we're called to disciple and care for them because they are the future, and being willing to engage them where they are, for who they are and what they are wrestling with. And how do we do that? We live out what John calls “the Great Commandment Mandate:” to love God, and from that love, love people. As we grow in our knowledge of God, and become who He has made us to be, and putting legs on it, with a heart to serve others. This is such a powerful word, and I'm so excited to share it with you. Additionally, we're going to talk more about so many things John mentioned in this episode over these next few weeks about what the Church looked like when it began, about the call of the great commission to go and share the Gospel has not changed, but the methods often need to. How do we engage discipleship and conversations that happen all around us and truly apply this pattern of know, be and live. I think this is going to be really helpful for a lot of us who feel the intensity of the pivot in the world, but want to actually press into application in their lives, relationships and conversations. We can do this, friends. With God's help. He holds our hope. And He freely lavishes it on you because you matter to Him. You matter. And your story matters. Thanks for hanging out with me and I'll see you next time. Connecting with John and the Impact 360 Institute: The book: Know, Be, Live: A 360 Degree Approach to Discipleship in a Post-Christian Era Audiobook Facebook Instagram Twitter Website Episode Sponsor: Tony Crabtree of Crabtree Homes with Exit Realty Home buyer guide: http://bit.ly/buyersguidecrabtreehomes Seller guide: http://bit.ly/sellerguidecrabtreehomes Facebook Instagram Website YouTube References: Young Life Dallas Willard “The Gospels of Sin Management” from The Divine Conspiracy The Billy Graham Library See the full interview I mentioned with Billy Graham here Article about the disciples potentially were teenagers Obergefell v. Hodges decision that legalized gay marriage Russell Moore- “Christianity is not the same thing as ‘almost Christianity.'” Willow Creek's study of church growth didn't have discipleship impact Lee Strobel- The Case for Christ author (can also see his story in the movie!) Kyle Strobel Bill Hybels Ravi Zacharias Biola University Augustine Jonathon Morrow (his twitter and his book Welcome to College: A Christ Followers' Guide for the Journey) Scripture References: Matthew 6:5- Don't be like those pray to hear yourself Romans 3:23-27, Romans 8:26- We are sinners who still struggle with sin God's mercy 1 Timothy 4:12- Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young Titus 2- You're not too old to impact lives Deuteronomy 7:7, Ephesians 1:4-5- God chose you because He loves you Mark 2:13-17- Jesus called Levi and then said let's go hang out with your friends Genesis 1:27- We are image bearers Genesis 2:15-17- God gives Adam a job Matthew 22:36-40- The Greatest Commandment Luke 6:45- Out of the heart the mouth speaks John 4:1-42- Jesus' encounter with the woman at the well Luke 1:39-45- Elizabeth announces Jesus' Mary's womb John 4:28-30, 39-42- The woman at the well going and telling about the Messiah Luke 24:1-12, John 20- The women who came to the tomb going and telling the disciples Jesus is risen John 14:15-17, John 15:26-27, 2 Timothy 1:7- We need the Holy Spirit to empower us John 15- He is the Vine and we are the Branches Acts 15- The fracturing over circumcision at the council at Jerusalem Luke 10:27- Loving God with all your mind Romans 12:2- Being transformed by the renewal of your mind Connecting with Emily and Simply Stories Podcast:Instagram (Em life // Podcast Life)FacebookTwitterBlog *Intro and Outro music is from audionautix.com
Many kids are growing up learning “the Gospel of Sin Management” rather than what it means to have a vibrant faith in Christ.
At the Corner of Success, Failure, and Sorrow
We all justify sin. We sometimes feel bad about it, and others ties we don't think twice. But does sin management help us find peace with ourselves and God?
God wants us to worshipfully focus on our Savior and Lord, trusting in his finished work, his grace, and the Holy Spirit to transform us from the inside out into his likeness as we consecrate ourselves to him and his mission. The post Why Sin Management Is a Dead End first appeared on Third Peter.
Full Service Nothing artificially interfered with the discipleship pathway from salvation-membership in the primitive church—“that day!” (Acts 2:41) –talk about a formula for corpus permixtum! Started the day lost and damned to Hell, and by the end...
episode 28 of The PURSUIT featuring Pastor Cameron Martin
Richard Foster: [00:02:52] Renovare and what we do is not about personalities. And that's one of the reasons that we always work as a team, because then the various gifts of the people of God can come forward and we can live and move in that and be strengthened by it.Of course, the life in the kingdom must always be enfleshed. And that does take people. And we're so thankful for the various ones that teach me and teach you and help us all. Roger Fredrickson is one of those kinds of persons. When I first was considering a move to Wichita, Kansas to teach at a university there.I mean, I thought Wichita, Kansas was the end of the earth. And, it's not, I want you to understand that. So we're lovely place. It is not the end of the earth, though you can see it from there. And, very wisely the college president when Carolyn and I went there to just be together and think about this idea.He invited Roger and Ruth Fredrickson to meet with us and have dinner. I'll tell you that president knew exactly what he was doing. I immediately fell in love with those two people. They just had the ability to kind of put their arms around the city in the world and people and everything. It was a great blessing.Roger had come to that city of Wichita to pastor a church that had really been broken. There'd been a church split.You understand about those things? I bet. And a great human, which facility downtown, probably seat a few thousand and there was just a couple hundred folk left. After many people had left and built a very big facility.And I watched Roger take that church. He wrote a book about it, called The Church That Refused to Die. And I watched that. And then whenever I could, I would just try to slip in. I remember once coming, Roger doesn't even know this. I came to their new year's Eve service. Just sat there, just cause I wanted to soak in that life. Just the life of God. And Roger's the only person who has ever been able to get me onto a committee. You do know that Bible verse...God so loved the world that he did not form a committee.But Roger got me on a steering committee to bring Leighton Ford for a campaign in the city. I just watched how he threw his arms around the city. We'd meet in Hispanic churches. We meet in all kinds of places and our steering committee and how the love begin to flow. And then the last service. And then after that service, we went over to the church that had split away from Roger's church and the hostility was such they wouldn't allow each other to go to the other church building, even just walk in the building. And, uh,= I just stood there amazed as we shared thanked each other. And then Roger stood up and said, you know, you all know what's going on between our two churches. And then he turned to wonderful pastor that other church.And he said, I believe it's time to bury the hatchet. And he walked over and hugged that man. And I thought the kingdom of God has come near. See, and that's Roger Fredrikson, he's speaking to us this morning and I know he will point us to life in the kingdom of God and what that means. Roger come bless you.Roger Fredrikson: [00:06:36] I had a friend who sometime ago gave me a statement that flies in the face of what Richard said.It deals with a dilemma that we often get in once in a while get into the church. I was walking in San Francisco along the golden gate bridge. When a man I saw a man about to jump off. I tried to dissuade him from committing suicide and told him simply that God loved him.A tear came to his eye. I then asked him, are you a Christian or a Jew or a Hindu or what? He said, I'm a Christian. I said, me too, small world... protestant or Catholic. He said, Protestant. I said, me too, what denomination? He said Northern Baptist. I said, well, me too. That's amazing. Northern conservative Baptist, or Northern liberal Baptist? He said Northern conservative Baptist. I said, I don't believe it. Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist or Northern conservative reform Baptist? He said Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist. I said remarkable, Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist, great lakes region or Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist Eastern region. He said Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist, great lakes region. I said a miracle Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist, great lakes region of 1879 or Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist. Great lakes region of 1912. He said Northern conservative fundamentalist Baptist. Great lakes region of 1912.I said, die heretic and I pushed him offNow in the face of this. Let me just say before the session began, we either laugh or cry about that. Don't we. I met the pastor of the Metropolitan Baptist church again, who serves the church now in Texas, Phil Lineberger. Where are you?Come down here, please. Just for a minute. Will you, as Richard has indicated, one of the great spiritual experiences of my life was when Metropolitan Baptist. And I want to say this in deep love, a great Southern Baptist church. And our tattered First Baptist church, American Baptist gathered for worship, which Richard, each other.(Banter)I want to say this man had the courage to go to a board of deacon. Some of whom said we don't want to go into a church building that was stolen from us. And our people said we don't want to drag out old dead bones again. And somehow we said to them, we pray each Sunday, forgive us our debts. As we forgive our debtors, we cannot do that and live this uptight way we're living. And out of a came a reconciliation service. Phil, I've carried you in my heart ever since. In fact, in my study, I've got the picture of the two. It was greeting one another, and I want to bless you and thank God for you.I really think in a way, that's my speech.I'm going to be very, very personal with you at the outset. Not because I want your pity just to state a fact.Two-and-a-half years ago.... I was diagnosed with leukemia and I want to say that by love and prayers, a marvelous oncologist and sophisticated medication I'm doing very well.Ruth. And I greet each day with joy and wonder and gratitude. Now resources come in at a time like this, because I went through several days of the dark night of the soul, Saint John of the cross said. But in the midst of it, there were assurances and prayers and love. And finally a profound new sense of the presence of God.The Renovare office shipped me--it was a great package--the third chapter of the divine conspiracy, which deals with what Jesus knew, our God-bathed world. I sat down one night and started to read that I was so entranced and overcome. I at times wanted to shout. I wanted to weep because there came to me after all these years of preaching about the kingdom-- intellectually understanding the kingdom and I having intimations of the kingdom--there came to me a great new awareness of the wonder and the intimacy of the presence of God's kingdom in which I have rejoiced. And in many ways, grown in these last years.Strange and amazing things happen. I was driving back from the hospital in a park that we call McKennan park. A boy was coming home from school. It's a simple thing. He had a knapsack over his back. He had a lunch bucket in his hand and he was just dancing. And I just stopped. And almost with tears of joy, watch that boy dance with freedom. And I thought about Jesus' incredible statement, unless you become as a little child, you'll in no wise enter the kingdom of heaven. And I said, Lord, I thank you that I see the kingdom all about me.And since then, in all kinds of interesting, amazing unexpected places I have seen and experienced that kingdom for which I thank God. The sad thing and the things I want to say briefly here, girl, out of a love and a passion for the mandate, say it, the mainline church and the institutional church to which, and I, and I recognize we come from many different backgrounds here, but that has been my habitat, so to speak.And I say this in love and yet with pain, the church has not been at that point. And we know that this is why some sense we're here, wistful and longing, wanting to be taught. And we're richly blessed with a whole session. Last night, the church has settled for the superficial stuff. We know that it's been a consumer gospel in many cases, it's been self-centered, it's a question of, you know, how do I get in?And. As our dear brother Dallas says it's bumper sticker, theology, just forgiveness will get you in which of course leads to a superficial understanding of what the church is all about. And Gallup's poll indicates 94% of the American people believe in God. 74% say they have some kind of commitment to Christ 34% claim to have been born again yet no transforming impact in society, moral... I don't need to dwell on this violence, broken homes, addictions.So in the midst of this, we ask ourselves about the gospel we've been preaching. A phrase used in The Divine Conspiracy, which speaks of sin management. Our program has been to arrange somehow that people can get in. It's kind of like a glorified insurance program. We know that on the right, on the right side we've had, and I say it with gratitude, we've had Evangelical theology, which has stressed reconciliation. It's stressed forgiveness. It's spoken of the atonement justification by faith. You know, these are the massive--how shall I say it, rock on which the reformation is built. But you see it's been, if I can use this analogy, it's like baseball. We've got to go around the bases to get home, but we get the first base and stop there.And the tragedy is waiting beyond us something far more than just the beginning. The fact is tjat on the left side, which has been, as we classically have said, social action theology, we've attacked. We have attacked social ills of the organized away, so to speak. The removal of structural evils has been what we've dealt with on that side.So there was, was civil rights and the Vietnam protest. And the word liberation of the oppressed came to the heart of it. And people felt in a way I've dealt with them. That prayer is kind of tinkering that we're, we're not dealing with a personal God. That there's a God that's kind of removed. It's almost like a form of deism. That's not true of everyone, but it has tended to be true on this side.I want to say very personally, we have a son, our oldest son who was a political science major at Yale. Got a scholarship to go on to Harvard divinity school. Came out during that time, spent a week on a hunger strike, protesting the Vietnam war worked for George McGovern and fine keen human being with a great compassion for people, regardless of your political persuasion, that's true. And Randy worked among the native Americans in Western South Dakota with a passion and we'd have these discussions about Lordship, and surrendering, and the deeper element of what is involved in the kingdom of God. And then one Monday, dear Randy called. And he said, bless. I thought of that last night with deep emotion.Blessed are the meek for, they shall inherit the earth. I said, my conscience, Randy, what's happened to you. He said, I've capitulated to the Lord... his mother and I stood there and wept. And there began to emerge in his life the kind of thing. And I know this is a dad talking. There began to emerge a kingdom style of life that was holistic, that caught up the personal, the justification, the forgiveness, which is at the heart of what we believe, but also moves across the landscape that touch people where there's oppression and need and pain. And too much of the church has not dealt with that. We know that. And we rejoice in the fact that Randy's involved in a prison ministry, pastoring a church moving among, in many cases, the disenfranchised and the poor that are caught on the edge of society as we know it.So the condition of the church, dear friends, for many of us, we know that has been, we have shallow, self-centered, carnal Christians who say I want it my way. You know, the test of our own love for each other comes in this transportation from the hotel over here. It's very interesting to see how we react in those situations.I have a Catholic priest friend who preached on peace one Sunday, and he said, I went to the window and looked at the parking lot. And I could tell that that sermon hadn't even touched them the way they were trying to get out of that parking lot.And there are broken relationships, Ruth and I in the last 10, 11 years have spent a great deal of time in renewal, and I find that at the heart of church after church, there's misunderstanding there's criticism, there is brokenness and God can not work through those institutions. If I can put it that way. Or take the matter of the church setting for an agenda, that's largely institutional. We get all fired up about carpets and painting bathrooms and writing budgets and all that.While the world goes to hell, we discovered within walking distance of our church in Sioux falls, South Dakota on the basis of a survey 800 youngsters were within walking distance of our church. One third of whom came from single parent homes, which led us to a ministry, you know, after school... care for youngsters at that. Well, you know about that, but the fact is we have spent a massive energies on maintenance, just getting the job done, surviving, which grows out of the fact that we've had, if I can say this. It partial theology, truncated, sin management. Let me use the phrase again, kind of theology.This is why we've come here. I believe to learn, to grow, to drink deeply. The kind of thing we heard talked about last night, which leads us and will be talked about all through this week, which leads us to the fact. Let me just say. In passing here that kind of life in the church has not led to any transforming impact on society.You know, we have subtly been conformed to the age. We breathe its spirit. We live in it's ethos. It's almost like a subtle cancer that eats at us. Instead of saying boldly, somehow we've got to take another look. We've got to deepen our lives. We've got to move into areas where we've never been before.Which leads us to the fact that we have to come back simply again to Jesus as our great teacher.This is brothers and sisters, a didactic book. Most of is written to explain to people how we are to live in the kingdom. Take for example, Jesus, and, and the people, men that he'd been and women that he called into his kingdom, he said to Jame and John, follow me, and I will make you, what does that mean? And I'm always intrigued reading that story of Matthew, where Jesus comes along and he saw him.. My conscience to see Matthew to cut beyond all that surface stuff and get at the real man and say to him, "Will you follow me?"And I'm taken with a verbs that say he straightway got up and followed him.He had no idea that he was going to find himself that you'll seeing miracles or, or, or hearing the teachings of Jesus, which many times he had to explain. And finally, in some way his death and his resurrection. And as far as we know, he, he was martyred. But he began a great life of adventure following him.This is what we're asked to do. Jesus poured his life into that handful of people. He taught them. He modeled for them. He explained parables that they could not have said yes, there's a mystery, the kingdom, the gracious rule and reign of God that draws near to us made available in Jesus. So like them there, we now with the living Christ present in his Spirit are trying as best we can to open ourselves and learn of him. Meek and lowly, as we heard said last night.And when Paul, let me just say this in passing, because sometimes we play Jesus over against Paul in some circles. That's not true at all. He spoke to the Galatians.I am in anguish. I am in pain. That Christ should be formed. And when he speaks about right writing to the Galatians walking in the spirit that we will bear the fruits of the spirit. This is Christ like this in the kingdom. And he spoke to the Ephesians about the fact that the end of it all is to grow up into the maturity of Jesus Christ to be new creatures in him.That's the possibility of what this conference and what our life is all about. So it's life in the kingdom, which is so near at hand. And I want to say again, personally, that in this, how do I say it? The lights coming on, I've seen the wonder of that over and over again. Jesus at work, in the gracious rule of God that begins to envelop personally and socially our lives.I took our granddaughter as a graduation gift--our oldest granddaughter as a graduation gift from college to Haiti just after the first of the year. Ruth has a niece and her husband that are there. They've been there for 14 years at good Samaritan hospital against incredible odds, dealing with a pain and misery of a country so near within our hemisphere. And we've never had, I had a consistent policy about Haiti, we just go on zigzag on the whole thing. And we had an incredible experience. And I remember sitting on the second or third day in the pediatric ward and, and seeing the 15, 16, little infants, some of whom were all already orphans because their mothers had died in childbirth because of malnutrition and saw these four Haitian women, not their mothers, but caring for them, mothering them, feeding them, washing them.And I found myself without thinking about it, humming. Come thou fount of every blessing, or the grace, how great a debtor daily I'm constrained to be.. Bind my wandering heart and so forth. It speaks about that in there. And as I, as I was humming, not aware, even on what I was doing, the women begin to look at me and there was smiles and they started to sing in Creole, come thou fount of every blessing.I want to tell you, Jesus walked there in the midst of that, but we come home. It's a very, very simple thing and sit down Ruth and I some mornings, because we have wrens that have built mama and Papa have built a nest in a bird house. And sometimes mama wren. I'm sure it's she, sits on the railing and looks at us through the window.And I think of the fact that Jesus said, you know, If your father takes care of the birds, he's certainly going to take care of you. We've got to understand dear brothers and sisters, that kingdom is not just behind stain glass windows. It's not just at meetings like this, as powerfully as he's evident here, God is moving in this incredible sense in this God-bathed world.And we need to be aware of that. See the signs move in it, learn from those situations. I want to close by just saying very personally... years ago at youth conferences, it illustrates the kingdom, at youth conferences at GreenLake, Wisconsin, a man came named Clarence Jordan. Now Jordan came from camp, came from South Georgia.He had that beautiful Southern--even more so than Texas in some ways--where he'd say, I want to talk to you about the economics of Jesus and boy that just scared the bankers to death. And he would say, I'm talking about people that couldn't get a loan at your bank. You know, you know how it happened.Clarence Jordan became a Christian as an adult. He always read by the way from a Greek new Testament, when you read. And when he read the sermon on the Mount, he said, this is the Lord's teaching to me. Went to Southern seminary in Louisville majored in Greek, so he could really get at the message from the heart.The Lord instructed him, justice. Richard, you are faithful to this vision of renovar Clarence Jordan said in effect, we need to form an interracial farm called Koinonia because it's back on Georgia. You know, Georgia state had been an agriculture, so they begin to revive the dead prostituted soil, grew nuts and peanuts and all that manner of thing.We took 10 of our people from Wichita and went down to koinonia. We saw the bullet hole. We heard the stories, not told with anger, but with pain of what had gone on. This is before the days of Martin Luther King. Well, Clarence was gone when we were there, but in the days that were on them, when Clarence was living, a man named Millard fuller, who had made a mint as a very sharp attorney, his wife was so fed up with new boats and houses, et cetera, that she went up to New York city to be counseled.And Millard sought her out up there sitting on the steps of a Presbyterian church. Millard and Linda talked about Jesus, speak statement to the rich young ruler, go sell all you've got, give it to the poor and come follow me. That becomes the calling for some people in some places. So they said, I've heard of this Clarence Jordan.Let's go down and learn about the kingdom. And Millard tells very humorously about how they had one cow on the farm. Clarence was on one side and Millard on the other. I don't know how the cows stood it. And while they were milking. Talking, as Millard says, between the flank of the cow and the tail of the cow, he said, I learned about the kingdom. And God laid on me, the whole vision of decent housing.Ah... an incredible, crazy dream. At the end of last year, habitat for humanity as it came to be known. And some of you've been involved. How many have you been involved in habitat? Put your hands up all over the place. Marvelous. Had built 70,000 homes. In our town, we've built 40 Catholics and Methodists and Baptists. () First time the Baptist got together on much of anything and building a house.) Young people, women have built homes. I'll never forget when we visited koinonia and Millard who was there, then took us around. He said, I want to show you what's going on. We're going to eliminate bad housing in Sumpter County.And we got to this one place where a marvelous African American woman said, I want to say, I'd only had dirt floors, I had no running water, I tossed my excretions out in the bushes. And then she said, I got a house. I got a home. Cement floor running water, electric lights. She said, I danced all night and sang hallelujah, because I'd been given a home.Now I realized this is a kind of a dramatic statement of it. But when I say I'm open to the kingdom, Jesus, I want to serve you. I want to be obedient. I want to listen and I want to obey. So that somehow I built on the rock. None of us here knows what adventure he leads us into, but you come home and it's a very simple matter.And here's dear Anna... anna has no habitat for humanity worker. She is a woman who cleans and deals with the grass and the flowers at the place where we live, called Frail Ridge. And Anna so happy. She was coming on to work at four 30 working until nine 30, 10 o'clock at night. And I said, Anna, you're so happy.She said, well, yeah, she's, uh, in some ways, a simple person in the way we were singing about it today. And then one day I was driving along and I saw this car with a fish, you know, the little fish I looked, it was Anna. So when I saw her in the building later, I said, Anna, you're a believer. She said, yes, I am.I said, tell me about yourself. And she talked about her love of the soil, coming off of South Dakota farm. She talked about grass and flowers and trees. I said, would you, we're going to have an Easter Africa service. Would you share with us how you came to believe and how God has involved you in his mission?She would, I'll never forget. She stood up and she said, I used to worry about everything. Be not anxious. Look at the birds and the flowers. Solomon arrayed in all his beauty was not like one of these. That's the kingdom, the mystery, and the wonder of the kingdom. People sat with joy and listen, as Anna said, and then I met Jesus. Now he's the one that shares the kingdom. We know that. He's the one who models it. He's the one who powers us with his life in this.Now she said, I'm still concerned. But I don't worry anymore. So be it. And God bless us to get beyond just managing sin into the great wonder and joy and power of Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Yeah.Richard Foster: [00:33:10] Wonderful.lovely. Dallas, come up.Dallas, talk with us a little as you've heard. Roger, just anything impressions that you picked up.Dallas Willard: [00:33:24] The simplicity of the vision, a little child is the heart of it. And if we could just get beyond all of our concerns about one or another kind of peripheral thing and just live that, then that's where the kingdom comes. When, when Jesus says, of course that unless you would come a little child, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven. He's not talking about going to heaven when you die.He's talking about stepping into it right now and that's the invitation to all of us. ThankRoger Fredrikson: [00:33:54] you, Roger.Dallas, I want to ask you, people are looking for formulas. They want to we're so pragmatic. We want to work an arrangement. How does a person get the mind and heart of a child? Is there any how?Dallas Willard: [00:34:11] Well, yes. But it's not a formula.Roger Fredrikson: [00:34:14] No, no.Dallas Willard: [00:34:15] Uh, if you, if you know how a little child looks to their parents...that's the secret, uh, we've recently had this wonderful little granddaughter that was born in the middle of the board meeting last year.Roger Fredrikson: [00:34:31] Yes. We know about that.Dallas Willard: [00:34:32] I should have named her Renovare (laughter)She's named Larissa and it's what has come back to me is how the little child just looks at its parents just looks to its caretaker.That is the simple thing that we look to God in that way. Yeah. And as we do that, uh, we get past all the clever tricks and concerns about what other people do and don't believe them so on.And we just simply, we trust like that little child trust its parents. And I think that's the secret.Richard Foster: [00:35:11] You know, Dallas you've mentioned in this, uh, chapter two, something that has with me for a long time. I remember it in manuscript form that sociologically we can document that people are not growing spiritually. And you had said that that leaders lament this, that in spite of their most vigorous efforts that we're not growing spiritually. And then you add this sentence. Let's consider a revolutionary thought. What if it's because of our efforts that people aren't growing, can you, can you unpack that a little bit for us?Dallas Willard: [00:35:51] Well, it's just a simple matter of looking at what we actually spend our time on. I mean, what do we spend our time on? You've already made a comment on committees and, uh, and of course we have to.We have to have ways of working. And there's no doubt about that, but the problem is that the things that come to center to occupy the center of our attention are actually peripheral.And it's like I was saying last night, you know, what do you want on your tombstone? If you put the stuff we make central on our tombstones, maybe they are on our tombstone. Some of our churches turned into tombstones because they have that sort of written on them, you know?We just don't put the center center. Just don't do it.Richard Foster: [00:36:49] Speaking of tombstones. I remember. That wonderful description of that lovely lady that we just catch a glimpse of in the book of acts, her name was Tabitha or Dorcas, and it said of her that she was a woman full of good works and acts of charity.And I've always thought, wouldn't that be a wonderful thing to be able to put over a life? Here's a person, full of goodworks and acts of charity.Dallas. Uh, you mentioned in this chapter. About the importance of seeing Jesus as teacher and making the comment that that notion has gotten lost in our day.Now, can you help us understand what has brought that about why has that been lost to us?Dallas Willard: [00:37:41] Well, I really think it's been mainly lost because of the battle struggle between modernism and fundamentalism, the way it's shaped up. And on the conservative side, people began to recognize that when the other side I spoke with Jesus as teacher, it was a demotion that they were saying, well, he's just a man.And so they tried not to speak about that. And on the left side, the liberal side, they spoke of him as teacher, but nobody was really learning from him after a generation or two of liberalism because the earlier liberals were very different from contemporary ones. So on both sides, it's just lost.So that again, see that that is not placed at the center. I mean, suppose we said on the front of our churches: we exist to teach men and women, boys and girls, to do everything that Jesus said, just imagine, but that's lost because he's not thought of in that way on either side. And the recovery of that is necessary to renew this idea of apprentices, you know, and to invite people to simply come to learn, as he said, he invited come and learn of me. If our churches were simply devoted to that, then everything else would take care of itself.Richard Foster: [00:39:07] You know, for a time I was an apprentice electrician and my job was to follow the journeyman and listen to what he said and watch what he did and try to do it the way he did it.And when I didn't do that, I sure got into trouble a couple of times flat on my back from electrical shock. And I though of that often as a model for me to think about apprenticeship to Jesus Christ, to watch how he looks. I lived when he was among us in the flesh, but also his living among us now in the spirit to listen to what he said in the gospels that's recorded, but also to what he is speaking and saying today, and to try to do it the way he does it. You have a phrase there about living my life...Dallas Willard: [00:40:11] as he would live my life, if he were I him.That's the aim of the disciple, just like that fellow that you were following around, you were learning to do with your body and your mind what he would do if he were you. Now there are more than enough people here in this group today to revolutionize the world. If everyone here, I would say that is my only business in life is to learn to lead my life the way Jesus would lead my life if he were I.Roger Fredrikson: [00:40:50] We get the idea, you've got to be kind of spiritually elite. You've got to have, you know, the whole rigamarole, instead of believing that mechanics, people haul garbage, people that are selling used cars can be God's men in those places a kingdom can be seen there.And that's what we've been very short on. Our friend Elton Trueblood years ago said that the pastor is a player coach. In the sense of not only saying this is what ought to be done, or can be done is a better word, but I want to show you as best I can, you know, with all my weaknesses and foibles, how this is lived out so that people are learning from us.Richard Foster: [00:41:31] I watched Roger do this. Yeah on, uh, I think it was a Tuesday morning or noon study for about 300 business people from downtown who would come as Roger taught and worked through the gospel of John, I think in about a couple of years or so teaching that.And you know, people here are from all walks of life and those are all honorable walks... and we want to learn. You want to learn, I went to learn. How to live in a way that would be pleasing to God and only Jesus can teach us that. And Roger and Dallas, I want you to help me just to pray. Roger, could you begin?Roger Fredrikson: [00:42:18] Our father, you know, our hearts, and our minds and our wills, you know what brought us here. We pray for openness to receive what you long to give us. We pray that if there are areas of our life that we need to surrender, relationships that need to be healed. Oh Lord. Bless us in thatFill us afresh with your spirit, the spirit of Jesus in such a way that we will reflect the kingdom, the rain, your reign in all of life. And teach us once again, or that we have made. It terrible mistake and drawing lines and saying, this is sacred and this is secular. And may we see life whole, this God-bathed world that you put us in. We thank you that we can be together, that we can grow in love that we can affirm and encourage one another.And so we bless you and praise you and thank you in Christ's name.Richard Foster: [00:43:25] Lord I hold before you and we together hold every person in this room who's a parent, working and dealing and raising children. Would you bless these parents? Some of them single parents some together, but not together and struggling. Some who live in the home together, but differ on how to raise the child. Would there be a sense of the Shalom of God, all we ask and it's like seeing parents and children playing together, talking together, being silent together with the television off and enjoying life together.Dallas Willard: [00:44:19] Lord, we ask that each of us here, now, you will give us a vision of where we are, starting with our bodies and our past, and all that has happened to us and our families and our place in this world. And help us to see each one that we stand at the doorway of heaven and that the ladder, which Jacob saw come down into the ditch where he lay asleep, extends to where we are. And the angels are ascending and descending upon the son of man who walks beside us and makes our place holy. And give us the vision to know that this is the place, and this is the time and you are the blessing and that your kingdom opens out before us to claim everything that we are and have, in these days and hours that we're here together.As we are in our hotel rooms and in meetings. As we fellowship and listen and speak to one another, solidify that vision so that it decorates the inside of our mind and is all over our thinking and feeling that we might know that we have set the Lord always before us. He is at our right hand, we shall not be moved. In Jesus name.Richard Foster: [00:45:43] Amen.
The first 10 minutes of the sermon are hard to hear. We get it corrected though. You can turn up the sound, but please be aware it corrects. Jesus came to proclaim more than a Gospel of Sin Management. His message, his life is more than we could imagine.
The first 10 minutes of the sermon are hard to hear. We get it corrected though. You can turn up the sound, but please be aware it corrects. Jesus came to proclaim more than a Gospel of Sin Management. His message, his life is more than we could imagine.
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The Universal Battle of Sin Management:Colossians 3:5-14The Big Idea: Your heart and your mind will shape and define everything about you.4 STEPS THAT MOVE US FORWARD:Step 1: Trade your big BUT for a big BECAUSE. Colossians 3:1Step 2: Set your HEART and MIND on things above. Colossians 3:2-4Step 3: Let the PEACE of Christ GOVERN your heart. Colossians 3:15Step 4: Let the word of Christ DWELL in your mind and mouth.Colossians 3:16-17Life in the Flesh vs. Life in the SpiritBody GodSpirit SoulMind MindSoul SpiritGod BodyEphesians 2:1-8
While we understand the metaphors of salt and light, it is puzzling how Jesus immediately goes to the law and prophets. How can we be more righteous than the Pharisees and legal experts? The law is not about sin management. It is about turning our hearts towards what is in God's heart.
We get personal this week on our own non-stop fighting of our sin natures, and talk about if there is a better way to go about righteousness than trying really hard to be better and hating yourself when you fail. If being born again is really as powerful and dramatic as it sounds, why do men and women of faith still fight temptation all the way to the grave? Tune in and find out (Note: yes, we have done a sin management episode before; we tried to being some fresh material for this one. As always thanks for listening)!
In January we are on re-centering around Jesus! We're in trouble when we aim for a salvation culture instead of a gospel culture. A church with a gospel culture goes way beyond, "I'm a sinner; Jesus, take my place." Dallas Willard writes, "Gospels of Sin Management" presumes a Christ with no serious work other than redeeming humankind...[and] they foster "vampire Christians,' who only want a little blood for their sins but nothing more to do with Jesus until heaven" (McKnight, TKJG, 81). January 12th, 10 AM
Sin Management
In this episode Jim and Jon break down "sin management," a hot phrase in modern Christianity. When Jesus and the New Testament writers say that He has set us free, why do we still have sin urges? And will we ever be rid of them?
Philip and Terrel discuss Ch. 2 of The Divine Conspiracy. After listening you will understand why the lives of professing Christians today are indistinguishable from non-Christians. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/themanny/support
Living a Transformed Life (not sin management) by Compass Church
What is Christianity all about? Is it about being a good person or is there something more to it than that? Join the people of Jericho as we kick off our time together in our new building with a message on the depth of God's wisdom and plan
Pastor Carlos continues our study through the book of Judges called Relentless.
Brad Sullivan 3rd Sunday of Lent March 4, 2018 Emmanuel, Houston John 2:13-22 Wreck It Rabbi One of my kids’ and my favorite movies is an animated movie called, “Wreck It Ralph.” Ralph is a video game character, a bad guy whose catch phrase is, “I’m gonna wreck it,” and in this movie, the video game characters are kind of alive and interact with each other when they are off stage, when no one is playing the game. Ralph’s game is a game called Fix It Felix in which Ralph is, again, the bad guy, except that he doesn’t want to be the bad guy. He’s good hearted, but in the game, his job is to destroy a high rise apartment building, and as he does, the tenants shout “Fix It Felix”, and the hero, Fix It Felix comes along and fixes everything that Ralph destroys. So, everyone kinda hates Ralph, then as the movie goes on, they all realize that without Ralph, no one would play their game, and through the rest of the plot, we find that Wreck It Ralph is actually a hero, doing a lot of fixing of some bad things going on through his propensity for wrecking. Spoiler alert, by the end of the movie, they’re all friends. So, in our Gospel story today, when Jesus overturns the tables of the money changers in the Temple and drives out the animals that were being sold there, he’s kind of like Wreck It Rabbi. He saw the animals and the money changers in the Temple, and he wrecked it. The people were pretty stunned saying, “What the heck just happened?”, eventually calling out, “Fix It Pharisees.” Well, most of our Bibles probably say, “Jesus cleanse[d] the Temple.” If you’ve got a Bible that has little subject titles inserted in the text, then that insertion, that editor’s note, probably says, “Jesus cleanses the Temple.” It’s cute and catchy as titles go, but here’s the problem, Jesus wasn’t cleansing anything. See the animals and money changers, they were all supposed to be there. The blood sacrifice of animals was part of the temple worship, given as offerings to God for a variety of reasons, including forgiveness of sins. If you didn’t have the best or the right kind of animal of your own, well then you could purchase one. This was all prescribed in the law of Moses. So the people in weren’t making the temple dirty. They were doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing as prescribed in the law of Moses. The problem was that the system was broken. People were stuck under the weight of trying to manage their sin with God through animal sacrifice, and all of that time and effort and resources which could have gone to improving the lives of each other, went instead to trying to appease a seemingly angry God. So, Jesus was not cleansing the Temple. He was reforming it. He was kinda taking a wrecking ball to his religion, actually, but he was following a long tradition of prophets and psalmists who kept saying over and over, “quit with this animal sacrifice stuff. The temple should be a place of prayer, and seriously, God doesn’t need any goats, or sheep, or cows, or doves. He made them; they are his already.” As the prophet Micah wrote: Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with tens of thousands of rivers of oil? Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?’ ‘With what shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before God on high? Shall I come before him with burnt-offerings, with calves a year old? He has told you, O mortal, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? Micah 6:7, 6, 8 Do justice. Love kindness. Walk humbly with God. That’s what Wreck It Rabbi wanted for Temple worship. That’s what Wreck It Rabbi wants for our lives, and he is happy to wreck whatever gets in the way of that. Sometimes our worship getsbtoo performance based, with people getting very upset if someone makes a mistake in the movement or words of the worship. Wreck It Rabbi comes in and says, “this is supposed to be a house of prayer, not a theater company.” Sometimes folks get angry with children making noise, and Wreck It Rabbi comes in and says, “Let the little children come to me, for the kingdom of God belongs to them.” Sometimes we get so caught up in all that we do to prepare for our worship, that we end up thinking that our primary ministry is here, to prepare for our time here, and Wreck It Rabbi comes in and says, “Go in peace to love and serve me, in those you encounter outside of here, for that is your true worship.” As Jesus comes along and wrecks things, disrupting our worship time, we sometimes get calls of “Fix It Father” from those who have been disrupted. Sometimes, it isn’t Jesus disrupting things, and we really do need to fix it. Other times, Wreck It Rabbi may want us to be disrupted, taking us out of our comfort and our routine in order to wake us up to see him in our lives beyond the Temple, the church, the worship. By reforming the Temple, in the story we heard today, Wreck It Rabbi reminds us that our lives are not meant to lead us to worship. We don’t spend our time preparing ourselves to be worthy enough to worship God in just the right way. We spend time in worship and prayer to heal our hearts so that we can do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly with God. That’s God’s desire for us. Our truest offerings during prayer and worship are the offerings of our hearts. Whatever is holding us back from doing justice and loving kindness, that is what we offer to God. In the Morning Prayer service, there is a prayer called, “A Collect for Saturdays,” and I love this prayer except for one word, “sanctuary.” “Almighty God, who after the creation of the world rested from all your works and sanctified a day of rest for all your creatures: Grant that we, putting away all earthly anxieties may be duly prepared for the service of your sanctuary…” (BCP p. 99) Wait a minute. Is there anything we can do to make us righteous enough before God to be worthy enough to come near to the holy place where God dwells? No. We aren’t going to make ourselves more righteous than Jesus already has. Wreck It Rabbi has no interest in gospels of sin management that keep us down under the heavy burden of fearing an angry God who feels that we are never good enough for him. That’s part of why he and the prophets took a wrecking ball to the animal sacrifice system of Temple worship, and thankfully, Wreck It Rabbi continues to wreck our worship and our ways of life whenever gospels of sin management keep us down, fearing an angry God, rather than trusting in Jesus’ Gospel of light and grace which tells us we are beloved children of a loving God, and that we are worthy to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with God. So, that prayer, then, that collect for Saturdays? I’ve changed that word “sanctuary” to “kingdom.” No we pray, “Almighty God, who after the creation of the world rested from all your works and sanctified a day of rest for all your creatures: Grant that we, putting away all earthly anxieties may be duly prepared for the service of your kingdom…” That is what our rest is for. That is what our worship and prayer is for, so that we may be duly prepared for the service of God’s kingdom, doing justice, loving kindness, and walking humbly with God. What does that look like? Well, that’s going to be a bit different for all of us. For me, one of my passions is children and schools. I was at a meeting of faith leaders on Thursday morning with the HISD superintendent, Richard Carranza, and School Board president, Rhonda Skillern-Jones, among the topics discussed, they invited us to come to a training on March 29 to learn about how best to partner churches with schools to have folks be mentors for kids, to address the needs that principals tell us are there, and to be a part of the village that raises up kids in our community. You can bet I’m going to be there at that meeting because that’s my passion. That’s the broken thing that Wreck It Rabbi has given me a passion for where I would like to do justice, and love kindness, and walk humbly with God. What about you? What broken thing has Wreck It Rabbi given you a passion for? What broken thing is Jesus calling you to fix? That’s why we’re here. Wreck It Rabbi has brought us here this morning to strengthen us, to heal our hearts, and to remind us that we are beloved children of a loving God so that as we leave this place, we may have eyes to see the broken places and systems of our world and say, “I’m going to wreck it,” and through that wrecking, to fix it, doing justice, loving kindness, and walking humbly with God.
Brad Sullivan 3rd Sunday of Lent March 4, 2018 Emmanuel, Houston John 2:13-22 Wreck It Rabbi One of my kids’ and my favorite movies is an animated movie called, “Wreck It Ralph.” Ralph is a video game character, a bad guy whose catch phrase is, “I’m gonna wreck it,” and in this movie, the video game characters are kind of alive and interact with each other when they are off stage, when no one is playing the game. Ralph’s game is a game called Fix It Felix in which Ralph is, again, the bad guy, except that he doesn’t want to be the bad guy. He’s good hearted, but in the game, his job is to destroy a high rise apartment building, and as he does, the tenants shout “Fix It Felix”, and the hero, Fix It Felix comes along and fixes everything that Ralph destroys. So, everyone kinda hates Ralph, then as the movie goes on, they all realize that without Ralph, no one would play their game, and through the rest of the plot, we find that Wreck It Ralph is actually a hero, doing a lot of fixing of some bad things going on through his propensity for wrecking. Spoiler alert, by the end of the movie, they’re all friends. So, in our Gospel story today, when Jesus overturns the tables of the money changers in the Temple and drives out the animals that were being sold there, he’s kind of like Wreck It Rabbi. He saw the animals and the money changers in the Temple, and he wrecked it. The people were pretty stunned saying, “What the heck just happened?”, eventually calling out, “Fix It Pharisees.” Well, most of our Bibles probably say, “Jesus cleanse[d] the Temple.” If you’ve got a Bible that has little subject titles inserted in the text, then that insertion, that editor’s note, probably says, “Jesus cleanses the Temple.” It’s cute and catchy as titles go, but here’s the problem, Jesus wasn’t cleansing anything. See the animals and money changers, they were all supposed to be there. The blood sacrifice of animals was part of the temple worship, given as offerings to God for a variety of reasons, including forgiveness of sins. If you didn’t have the best or the right kind of animal of your own, well then you could purchase one. This was all prescribed in the law of Moses. So the people in weren’t making the temple dirty. They were doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing as prescribed in the law of Moses. The problem was that the system was broken. People were stuck under the weight of trying to manage their sin with God through animal sacrifice, and all of that time and effort and resources which could have gone to improving the lives of each other, went instead to trying to appease a seemingly angry God. So, Jesus was not cleansing the Temple. He was reforming it. He was kinda taking a wrecking ball to his religion, actually, but he was following a long tradition of prophets and psalmists who kept saying over and over, “quit with this animal sacrifice stuff. The temple should be a place of prayer, and seriously, God doesn’t need any goats, or sheep, or cows, or doves. He made them; they are his already.” As the prophet Micah wrote: Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with tens of thousands of rivers of oil? Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?’ ‘With what shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before God on high? Shall I come before him with burnt-offerings, with calves a year old? He has told you, O mortal, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? Micah 6:7, 6, 8 Do justice. Love kindness. Walk humbly with God. That’s what Wreck It Rabbi wanted for Temple worship. That’s what Wreck It Rabbi wants for our lives, and he is happy to wreck whatever gets in the way of that. Sometimes our worship getsbtoo performance based, with people getting very upset if someone makes a mistake in the movement or words of the worship. Wreck It Rabbi comes in and says, “this is supposed to be a house of prayer, not a theater company.” Sometimes folks get angry with children making noise, and Wreck It Rabbi comes in and says, “Let the little children come to me, for the kingdom of God belongs to them.” Sometimes we get so caught up in all that we do to prepare for our worship, that we end up thinking that our primary ministry is here, to prepare for our time here, and Wreck It Rabbi comes in and says, “Go in peace to love and serve me, in those you encounter outside of here, for that is your true worship.” As Jesus comes along and wrecks things, disrupting our worship time, we sometimes get calls of “Fix It Father” from those who have been disrupted. Sometimes, it isn’t Jesus disrupting things, and we really do need to fix it. Other times, Wreck It Rabbi may want us to be disrupted, taking us out of our comfort and our routine in order to wake us up to see him in our lives beyond the Temple, the church, the worship. By reforming the Temple, in the story we heard today, Wreck It Rabbi reminds us that our lives are not meant to lead us to worship. We don’t spend our time preparing ourselves to be worthy enough to worship God in just the right way. We spend time in worship and prayer to heal our hearts so that we can do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly with God. That’s God’s desire for us. Our truest offerings during prayer and worship are the offerings of our hearts. Whatever is holding us back from doing justice and loving kindness, that is what we offer to God. In the Morning Prayer service, there is a prayer called, “A Collect for Saturdays,” and I love this prayer except for one word, “sanctuary.” “Almighty God, who after the creation of the world rested from all your works and sanctified a day of rest for all your creatures: Grant that we, putting away all earthly anxieties may be duly prepared for the service of your sanctuary…” (BCP p. 99) Wait a minute. Is there anything we can do to make us righteous enough before God to be worthy enough to come near to the holy place where God dwells? No. We aren’t going to make ourselves more righteous than Jesus already has. Wreck It Rabbi has no interest in gospels of sin management that keep us down under the heavy burden of fearing an angry God who feels that we are never good enough for him. That’s part of why he and the prophets took a wrecking ball to the animal sacrifice system of Temple worship, and thankfully, Wreck It Rabbi continues to wreck our worship and our ways of life whenever gospels of sin management keep us down, fearing an angry God, rather than trusting in Jesus’ Gospel of light and grace which tells us we are beloved children of a loving God, and that we are worthy to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with God. So, that prayer, then, that collect for Saturdays? I’ve changed that word “sanctuary” to “kingdom.” No we pray, “Almighty God, who after the creation of the world rested from all your works and sanctified a day of rest for all your creatures: Grant that we, putting away all earthly anxieties may be duly prepared for the service of your kingdom…” That is what our rest is for. That is what our worship and prayer is for, so that we may be duly prepared for the service of God’s kingdom, doing justice, loving kindness, and walking humbly with God. What does that look like? Well, that’s going to be a bit different for all of us. For me, one of my passions is children and schools. I was at a meeting of faith leaders on Thursday morning with the HISD superintendent, Richard Carranza, and School Board president, Rhonda Skillern-Jones, among the topics discussed, they invited us to come to a training on March 29 to learn about how best to partner churches with schools to have folks be mentors for kids, to address the needs that principals tell us are there, and to be a part of the village that raises up kids in our community. You can bet I’m going to be there at that meeting because that’s my passion. That’s the broken thing that Wreck It Rabbi has given me a passion for where I would like to do justice, and love kindness, and walk humbly with God. What about you? What broken thing has Wreck It Rabbi given you a passion for? What broken thing is Jesus calling you to fix? That’s why we’re here. Wreck It Rabbi has brought us here this morning to strengthen us, to heal our hearts, and to remind us that we are beloved children of a loving God so that as we leave this place, we may have eyes to see the broken places and systems of our world and say, “I’m going to wreck it,” and through that wrecking, to fix it, doing justice, loving kindness, and walking humbly with God.
Wednesday Evening February 14, 2018 TJ Mitchell
Faithful Presence: Week 4 "The Gospel of Sin Management vs. The Very Good Gospel of Christ" by State Street Community Church
What does it mean to be Catholic? Too often we can boil down the answer to this question to “sin management.” Being Catholic is not a matter of just escaping sin. Being Catholic is about our relationship with God. It’s about God’s grace that visible to us in the Sacraments and a Sacramental life. Getting […] The post #27 – The Gospel of Sin Management appeared first on Redeemed Online.
"God is not interested in a sin management plan for individuals. Rather, he has a plan for transformation into a new creation." The Rev. E. Suzanne Wille preaches on the sixth Sunday after the Epiphany (February 12, 2017). Readings: Deut. 30:15-20; Ps. 119:1-8; 1 Cor. 3:1-9; Matt. 5:21-37. Image: dmitri_66 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dmitri66/), distributed under a CC BY-NC license.
Key Concept: Sin management is playing with fire and you will get burned.
Homily by Father Erik Arnold Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, Ellicott City, MD January 15, 2017, Second Sunday in Ordinary Time Gospel of Jn 1:29-34
In this chapel service guest speaker James Grout distinguishes between "The Gospel of Sin Management" and "The Gospel of Transformation".
Do we follow a Gospel of Sin Management? Has the Christian religion become more about controlling good and evil than living in the righteousness of Christ? Find out what it means to go from religion to a relationship at http://frmpodcast.wordpress.com
Ken and Todd look at the original pacific rim monster and compare the theme of sacrifice in Gojira to that presented in modern disaster films. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Intro and summary. 6:30 - Mass destruction without mass death? 13:40 - The Disneyificaiton of Sacrifice. 15:30 - The enemy is other people. 23:10 - Gospels of Sin Management. 30:40 - Heroism, sacrifice, and post-war films. 43:00 - The cultural air we breathe. DON'T FORGET: You can contact us by emailing thethinplace@filmgeekradio.com. Thanks for listening!
Series: Adventures in Missing the Point
Series: Adventures in Missing the Point
A sermon about following Jesus, discovering and embracing the unique calling God has on our life.
A sermon about following Jesus, discovering and embracing the unique calling God has on our life.
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