Podcasts about Jediism

With a monster budget and an overwhelmingly negative trailer response, Star Wars fans were left bracing as the premiere of the first two episodes of The Acolyte dropped on June 4th on Disney+. The show takes place far back before any of the events of the Skywalker Saga and brings us new worlds, characters, costumes, and stories while retaining the same transition wipes and stoic Jediism we're used to. On this podcast, we discuss our impressions of the show mixed in with some interesting facts about the production. Tune in to hear our ultimate ratings and justification. Welcome to Today's Episode.

The Scooby Gang discusses both the fictional Jedi from the Star Wars Films compared to the real Jedi that have popped up across the world. Ryan from Radical Retro Rewind Podcast joins us as we tell the tale of reality inspiring fiction inspiring reality. 

Pastor Bill: [0:02] Hello and welcome to season 3 episode 95 of the Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the modern Christian. I'm Pastor Bill in the big seat today, the big chair and I'm joined by Pastor Newms in the little chair, I disabled the video for bandwidth so I don't remember where you are you're right, right here on the video with me. He's the little head today and I'm the big head today because something came out this week and I was like okay, we need to talk about this and we really need to talk about this so we're going to talk about it. … Pastor Bill: [8:29] Okay so let's move on we've got a lot to cover tonight, maybe we'll get it all done in the one hour maybe we'll go over it might be a double episode tonight and then we'll just release the second half of the podcast the next week I don't know. Pastor Newms: [8:47] Wouldn't we just record the next half next week or else we wouldn't have any of the beginning stuff next week. Pastor Bill: [8:58] I don't know we'll play it by ear. Pastor Newms: [9:13] Okay okay. Pastor Bill: [9:16] I don't know I don't know okay so this week the results of a nationwide survey came out that the survey is done every it's not every year. Pastor Newms: [9:26] It's every two years. Pastor Bill: [9:27] Every two years, and it's a group called the state of Theology and they partner with Life Way. Now life way you know you used to see them as Christian bookstores everywhere well they kind of rain to that end because, well they weren't making any money they were losing money on their you know brick and mortar stores. It's 35 statements on theology Doctrine things like this. Pastor Newms: [10:02] How many statements? Pastor Bill: [10:05] 35 Pastor Newms: [10:08] Why do I only have 32 listed. Pastor Bill: [10:14] That's an interesting question but there's thirty five statements okay so it's 35 statements and. Pastor Newms: [10:21] Oh no oh no. Pastor Bill: [10:26] People went in and took this survey and they would answer you know based on the options given. And so we're going to go through some of these and we're going to talk about the results and the question and talk about you know a scripture or maybe not a scripture but we're going to talk about the way we see it I may say one way that's your news May see the different way, everyone listening may see a completely different way than either one of us and that's fine on most of this a couple of these it is that basic, it's either this way or you're not actually a Christian kind of thing you know. Pastor Newms: [11:12] I would agree yes. Pastor Bill: [11:15] 1. God is a perfect being and cannot make a mistake. Out of 3,000 people that responded 51 percent strongly agree, 15% somewhat agree nine percent weren't sure 10% somewhat disagreed and 15 percent strongly disagreed, that God was a perfect being and could not make a mistake. Right, so I believe God is a perfect being and that he does not make mistakes I also believe, that from my point of view I can look at something God has done, and either not see the big picture and think it was a mistake or not agree with it from my point of view and think it was a mistake, But ultimately from a grand scheme all of time expanse point of view God doesn't make mistakes and (responding to a live comment) - Biggs says our god well as, yeah there were this is off of the assumption that it is the Judeo Christian God of the Bible. Pastor Newms: [12:34] Which really plays into a future. Pastor Bill: [12:38] How do I word this correctly? Yeah it does. Pastor Newms: [12:41] So so yeah I I so this is the issue I have, overall you posit do you reckon continue with this one sorry so this is the issue I have overall so just so you know when you lean like that right there no one can see your face this is the issue I have, with this entire survey, and this is the issue I've had in this survey in past years also the wording of these questions are terrible. They are steeped in a biased belief of this is what I think whoever wrote These originally which this has been years and years and years ago so there's no telling, but it's very biased some of them are extremely christianese. Some of them aren't but, it's very much I have this set of beliefs so I'm going to ask the questions in this way not thinking about, any other situation because words like mistake what is a mistake you know um, like you mentioned I could view something that God did as I don't understand it or like it so to me it is a mistake in the perfect will of God it is not a mistake so, it's interesting to look at that in a lot of these questions is, the wording is so bad and don't worry I'll complain about English all night tonight so do be prepared the next two weeks I will be complaining about English the entire time so hold your seats and be prepared and I'll try not to blame Microsoft for anything but it is going to be English, blaming a lot so you have a scripture and I'll let you go first before I say what I was going to say because I thought you paused because you were going through it so. Pastor Bill: [14:45] So I attached Isaiah 55:8,9 to this. It says, “For my thoughts are not your thoughts and your ways are not my ways this is the Lord's declaration, for as Heaven is higher than Earth so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” And I think that really summed up what I was saying you know like God from God's point of view you know he works on a completely different playing field than the rest of us, and he's got the you know the 100-yard view whereas we're down here in the grass just trying to see daylight you know past the blades of grass, so Pastor Newms: [15:24] And what I looked at for it, was Psalms 18:39, “His way is perfect the word of the Lord is pure he's a shield who take all he's a shield to all who take refuge in him you know his way is perfect.” because it's his way and he kind of hit go so he gets to his prerogative because he said go. So that that that's a yeah. Pastor Bill: [16:01] 2. There is one true God in three persons God the Father God the son and God the Holy Spirit. Well once again, this is really a bias question it's worded with a lot of bias in it it's bad data collection but assuming that you believe in the one true God in a one true God. It then makes another assumption that you believe in the Trinity or don't d.c. they're asking do you believe in the Trinity or you not believe the Trinity everything's not really that clear-cut there's a lot of gray there I mean the idea of the trinity, isn't even one that's expressly stated in the Bible right it's a doctrine that we've pieced together out of context clues from, well this writer said this thing and this writer said this thing and this writer said this thing and through all of that, crafted this idea of the trinitarian nature of God, but there's no one scripture that just point blank says that and we could honestly spend a whole, episode of its own by itself going through all of the stuff that leads you to believe there is a trinity in the nature of God right, but that's not what we're doing tonight and so like this isn't another one of those bad ones, fifty-four percent of people strongly agree 16% somewhat agree 11 aren't sure president 5% somewhat disagree and 14 percent strongly disagree, with that statement that was not a pause that was me moving it over to you now. Pastor Newms: [17:50] Okay so this is where this is where I'm going to complain in my in my part so, with a one true God in three persons God the Father God the son and God the holy spirit so to me with the way this question is worded. I feel it leads one to sometimes especially if you're not steeped in christianese this is one of those that's steeped in crime if you're not, you might think of three God's not three parts of one God, and three the way the trilogy Trinity is you know three people that are one that are what you know because depending on how you read that sentence where the commas are how the you know, it's an interesting thought process, because the Trinity is like you mentioned hard in and of itself and. Verse I did pull a verse for this one, just one simple one that I kind of grabbed which is Galatians 4:6 and it says “in because you are Sons God sent the spirit of his son into our hearts crying Abba Father” and, so that does talk about all three parts in one the three persons that are all parts of one God that are, three at the same time which again steeped in christianese this is the Trinity and of itself is an extremely hard concept, unless you think of Body Mind and Spirit and can they be separated can they not excetera Etc so the Trinity is hard. It's deep theological stuff this isn't a an easy one. … Pastor Bill: [20:41] 3. God accepts the worship of all religions including Christianity Judaism and Islam. okay once again so bad so bad, so bad okay so 45 percent strongly agree with the. Um 22% somewhat agree 11% are not sure 6% somewhat to disagree and 16% like me strongly disagree with this statement, that God accepts the worship of all religions that's the statement. And then it gives a cough. Pastor Newms: [21:30] Why is that the statement why is that the. Pastor Bill: [21:32] Including the Judeo-Christian religions. Pastor Newms: [21:39] All three Abrahamic religions. Pastor Bill: [21:43] Including all three Abrahamic religions and I'm like wait God accepts worship with all religions so you're saying you know Hindu Buddhism Taoism. Pastor Newms: [21:54] Jediism the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pastor Bill: [21:56] Jediism Zaroastrianism the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You're making a rather broad statement and then saying. Pastor Newms: [22:03] Yeah. Pastor Bill: [22:04] Including the Abrahamic religions. Pastor Newms: [22:08] Which I think is what throws a lot of people off with this question which is why you have so many that agree because when they, when they hear the statement well yeah all three of those religions serve the same God technically you know so. Yeah to you know and so this question is terrible because of that three. Pastor Bill: [22:36] But even in the three they should have disagreed I put John 14:6,7, “Jesus told him I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father except through me if you know me you also know my father from now on you do know him and have seen him.” Judaism does not accept Jesus as the Messiah or believe he is the way to the father so that kicks them out of the question Islam does not believe that Jesus is the son of God. Pastor Newms: [23:17] Which which I which I agree there's a difference between is God the god of these religions. Pastor Bill: [23:24] That that would be a question where you could say oh yeah yeah they all believe they're worshiping the same entity. Pastor Newms: [23:31] Right and but I believe there's also a line between see here's the other aspect accepts worship, and has a relationship with in eternity are also. Pastor Bill: [23:48] My wife, abatsbrain, bring brought up Cain and Abel, God accepted the offering of one and rejected the offering of the other because one was doing it according to the way it had been lined up and the other one wasn't and so it's that same question. Pastor Newms: [24:05] God accepted the worship of Judaism for a long time. Follower of a follower of original Islam, you know before you know not the modern that we know today I mean God spoke to, Ishmael and you know blah blah blah you know so there's you know and he was the founder of, you know that offshoot and then it goes and goes and goes and of course it ends up where it is now which we would agree that it is not the same but, the god that they worshipped was the same, and the tenants are the same because of it and then it went to left field of course because you know people. … Pastor Newms: [25:06] Wait wait so sorry I didn't know you're ready to move on um so I did Exodus 20:3-6 which is like the obvious one for this like, which is, “Do not have any other gods beside me, do not make an idol whether it is the shape of anything in the heavens above or the earth below or the waters under the Earth Do Not Bow and worship to them do not serve them for I the Lord your God am a jealous God punishing the children for their fathers iniquities to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me but show faithful love to a thousand generations for those who love me and keep my commandments.” which is pretty much a, you know you really shouldn't worship anyone else according to biblical standards because he kind of laid that one out there so if you're praying to an idol, even if it looks like a saint I mean um oops my bad. … Pastor Bill: [26:06] 4. God learns (that should be your red flag right away) and adapts to different circumstances, Um 32 percent strongly agree 20% somewhat agree 17 aren't sure 8% somewhat disagree and 23% like me saw that big red flag and went no, absolutely not God does not learn, God knew God knows got and so I pulled Malachi I've actually have two scriptures here written down the first ones Malachi 3:6. … Pastor Bill: [26:59] “Because I the Lord hath not changed you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed” now he does not say I will never change because obviously then he became Jesus that's somewhat of a change, big change but he had not. Pastor Newms: [27:17] Taking the physical form. Pastor Bill: [27:19] Right but then there's other scriptures that people have taken to say we'll see God never ever ever in any way changes anything. Pastor Newms: [27:29] Well and and I think I think one of the big things here. Pastor Bill: [27:32] Was James written down rather was James 1:17, “Every good and perfect gift is from above coming down from the Father of Lights who does not change like shifting Shadows” So God doesn't learn something and then and then change the way he's going to do something because he learns something new, he's not like shifting Shadows where you know the clouds are moving so that the sunlight causes the shadow to change it's not like that, God doesn't learn anything new he knew from the beginning he saw the end and everything in between he there is nothing left to learn for God so that's not really a thing.  Pastor Newms: [28:26] So the thing I wrote about this is you know God does not adapt because he's unchanging, in many ways it lists this through scripture and there's tons of scriptures of you know his ways doesn't change his personality doesn't his love doesn't there's there's all these different ones, that I found that you know trying to pick which one I wanted to use but they were all about aspects of God that dip that don't change his love will never change his this will never falter his you know blah blah blah blah blah. The big thing and you alluded to it is his. The way he handles things has changed because of Grace in Jesus so it's not that he adapted. Pastor Bill: [29:17] But he always he always had the proclivity to be that but we prevented him from being that. Pastor Newms: [29:27] Right and that's that's what I think that that's one of those things where it has a hard time sometimes where there are times where God changed his mind quote unquote. Pastor Bill: [29:39] I'm not quote unquote that's straight-up I Repent ever making humankind I'm gonna wipe them out with a flood that's got changing his mind. Pastor Newms: [29:50] Well well it could be God changing his mind it could be God going mean this was the worst I knew it was bad but, I knew it was bad but boo, they're just bad bad like I knew they were bad like I knew it was going to happen but looking at it it's kind of like when you do something and you know it's not going to turn out okay like you know if I try to do art, right if I try to draw something anyone who knows me in real life is seen this probably at some point unless you've been spared I will draw something, and I know it's going to be bad and then I show it to someone and they're like oh that's like bad bad like that's so bad other people are complaining about it I knew it was going to be bad but I didn't know other people were going to complain to me about how bad it was going to be to the degree that they and so I think that's part of the like God knew it was bad but then it's like in the moment this is even think this is bad bad but that doesn't mean he has changed or, that just means he has the ability to change his mind from the beginning of time and does it sometimes based on. Prayers based on situations. Pastor Bill: [31:09] Based on finding one righteous man on Earth who then said mmm don't wipe us all. Pastor Newms: [31:16] But even then but even then you know, it's kind of cool to Sodom and Gomorrah right Sodom and Gomorrah he struck them down not because he looked at him and went and they're bad because other people were crying for. Pastor Bill: [31:35] The cities around. Pastor Newms: [31:36] Because of how. Pastor Bill: [31:37] In Sodom and Gomorrah. Pastor Newms: [31:39] Right so it's one of those situations where it's, do you know these guys are so bad that other people are bringing it's not that he didn't know, but people have and it's that whole you start to deal with that whole and this is actually something that's later also, the whole aspect of asking asking I can ask and I will ask can I you know, there's that aspect of these types of situations God didn't change but God sometimes, Alters the course of his Divine will because of other situations which happened, right off the bat because we were all supposed to be naked in a garden eating fruit but one tree still to this day and I hate wearing clothes and I'm still upset about it but, it is what it is you told us we had to so I do but you know whatever. Pastor Bill: [32:40] Did I write down the wrong scripture for this next. Pastor Newms: [32:43] I didn't think I'd be able to work in the fact that I hate wearing clothes into a sermon ever that's awesome that's interesting. Pastor Bill: [32:48] 5. Biblical accounts of the physical bodily resurrection of Jesus are completely accurate, This event actually occurred. so one, accurate is a broad question that allows for to people's testimonies to contradict so math you can say one thing and Mark can say something different and they can still both be accurate, right now is it a faithful replication of events as in you'd have in a history book, not really there eyewitness accounts they're not a history text that's not what the gospels are this. Pastor Newms: [33:42] Isn't that what all history texts are though eyewitness account. Pastor Bill: [33:47] No there these are the facts that are verifiable, by multiple Witnesses and documents and records and evidence is to make historical it has to be backed up by multiple things, the gospels are simply one man's eyewitness account that he wrote down and then another man's eyewitness account that he wrote down. Pastor Newms: [34:13] I understand what you mean but I don't know if you've picked up historical text recently because they're not always verifiable and the country. Pastor Bill: [34:22] Well they're supposed to be okay so. Pastor Newms: [34:24] Yeah I'm just saying like. Pastor Bill: [34:27] I'm in the strongly agree category at 47% somewhat agree in nineteen percent not sure it 11 percent somewhat disagree at 8% and strongly disagree at 15% of people, Mr. Grogy says the winner writes history to a certain degree he's right. Pastor Newms: [34:47] Can you find the Skeptics in the room yeah they're all my family. Pastor Bill: [34:53] Romans 10:9, “If you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved.” if you disagree with statement number five then you do not meet the bare minimum requirements for being a Christian as the Bible explains them to be. The event actually occurred, you have to believe that as a prerequisite for being a Christian. It just is that just that is that's that's the Bare Bones. Pastor Newms: [35:40] Yeah so. Pastor Bill: [35:40] That's what makes you a. Pastor Newms: [35:42] Didn't I didn't even put a scripture down but I just wrote without faith in the resurrection Jesus wouldn't have been the Messiah so we wouldn't have belief in him so. Pastor Bill: [35:56] So this. Pastor Newms: [35:56] Peace out like that's what that's all I wrote. Pastor Bill: [35:57] This 15% that are like I strongly disagree that Jesus you've bodily Resurrected are you gonna tell him or should I I don't I don't know. Pastor Newms: [36:08] Well but do remember not everyone in this survey is a churchgoer even. Pastor Bill: [36:15] This was intended to be a survey of only churchgoers primarily Evangelical. Pastor Newms: [36:28] No cuz there's because in the structure. Pastor Bill: [36:29] 2,300 of them are not Evangelical and 711 of them were evangelicals. Pastor Newms: [36:37] And in attendance to church 642 of these people have never been to church. Pastor Bill: [36:45] I see that yeah. Pastor Newms: [36:48] And so you know not all. Pastor Bill: [36:52] 28 of them responded that they're not sure if they've ever been to church. Pastor Newms: [36:57] Yeah I didn't I thought that one was humorous. And I truly did find the, the differences in income and education level and their answers but that's just playing with data that's not part of this conversation anyway number. Pastor Bill: [37:23] 6. Jesus is the first and greatest being created by God. So 40% of respondents follow the Arian heresy apparently and believe that Jesus is a created being. 15% somewhat agree 13% weren't sure 8% somewhat disagreed and 24% including myself, I strongly disagree that Jesus is a being created by God and was the first of those beings. Pastor Newms: [38:24] And I believe 40% of that part of that 40% doesn't understand the question because of how poorly it's written. Pastor Bill: [38:35] So I put John chapter 1 verses 1 through 18 in there. “In the beginning was the word and the Word was with God and the Word was God he was with God” in the beginning you know on and on and on and on what number two. And then when we skip down to verse 14 “the word became flesh and dwelt among us we observed his glory the glory as the one and only son from the father full of grace and truth John testified” and then we get down to verse 17 and it identifies the person who became flesh as Jesus Christ, Verse 18 “no one has ever seen God the one and only son who is himself God is at the father's side he has revealed himself” no Jesus was not a created being, Jesus is a part of God who then gave up Divinity to become a human person. Read move on to the next one. Pastor Newms: [39:54] So I also wrote Genesis 1:26, the illusion of John 11 you know the in the beginning was the word and the Word was God in the well in 1:26 is “and then God said let us make man in our image according to our likeness” they will rule such and such and such and such and such, but, you know God used a plural there. Because we are three parts like he is three parts exactly Biggs we are just shoved into an earth suit it's a dirt sack. Pastor Bill: [40:40] 7. Jesus was a great teacher but he was not God There is literally no wrong answer to this question. Given that he was God before he was Jesus and then became a human being who was not God while he walked the Earth and then became God again after he died and rose again. Pastor Newms: [41:11] And then walk the earth some more. Pastor Bill: [41:12] And then walk the earth some more and he was a great teacher during all those different parts so I put in Philippians 2:5-11 so we can really understand what I'm saying at that point is, “adopt the same attitude as that of Christ Jesus who existing in the form of God (right so Jesus was God), did not consider equality with God as something to be exploited (so he didn't oh I'm God I'm gonna take advantage instead he emptied himself), by assuming the form of a servant (some of the translations have said gave up his divinity gave up the Divine part of himself to become a human being a lowly servant.) Even humbling himself to the point of death even to death on a cross” he was God he became not God he rose again and became God again there's no wrong answer here any of those answers would have been accepted a say acceptable, Thirty-One percent strongly agreed 22% somewhat agreed 11% were like you're going to need to be more specific that's kind of where I'm at I'm like you need to give me a little bit more specific with your question, nine percent somewhat disagreed and 27 percent strongly disagreed, which is you know the Hardline evangelicals that I went out there you saying he's not God and didn't actually think through the question all the way up I believe. Pastor Newms: [42:52] So and and part of my problem is is I refuse to go mid line because I'm a I'm a person who won't go midline ever so I put disagree because, there's that aspect of he was and now he is so even if he took on Humanity he was, is and so the was was not God makes me go no you can't you can't cuz he was. Pastor Bill: [43:22] Yeah like I said there's no wrong answer they're that. Pastor Newms: [43:25] Right right so what I put is this is funny because what I put, was what we just talked about I put John 1:14 which is in the word became flesh and dwelt among us we observed his glory the glory as one and only son of the father full of grace and truth, and then I put also John 8:24 and I didn't put it in chat when I was about to say it, “therefore I told you that you will die in your sins for you do not believe that I am he you will die in your sins” so, you know there's that even he said I am, which is which is a very dangerous statement in that culture because that is what God told, Moses it is what got you know I am and so, that was Jesus saying I am and so that's why you know I put that in there. And now we get to the fun ones. Pastor Bill: [44:35] This is the first fun one it says the Bible hates trans people. Pastor Newms: [44:39] It's not what it says it's what is. Pastor Bill: [44:44] 8. God created male and female Okay like I agree with that statement, it's a it's a factual statement about the text God created male and female now the subtext of what you're saying I disagree with, um 64 percent strongly agreed 14% somewhat agreed 97 percent were not sure 3% somewhat disagree in twelve percent strongly disagree so if we go to the text Genesis 5:2 “God created them male and female when they were created he blessed them and called them mankind” yeah, and then I wrote down Jeremiah 1:5 because this is where it actually gets interesting to me at least. Jeremiah 1:5 “I chose you before I formed you in the womb, I set you apart before you were born I appointed you a prophet to the nation's” doesn't point blank say that God forms Us in the womb there, but it does imply that everyone is formed in the womb got stitches us together in the woman's another way it says that none of the scripture, God is not a man that he might lie or a son of man that he might change his mind as he speak and not act or promise and not fulfill, and you're probably going well what does that have to do with male or female or trans or any of that well, God created the world and humanity and he set us on our course, with certain laws of physics and Dynamics and responsibilities and we screwed the pooch right Adam and Eve ate the fruit welcomes in into our very beings into our very DNA, and so God goes in and he goes to form a person in the womb. And what does he have there to use legally without. Not fulfilling his word of giving us Authority and letting the laws that he set forth right so he uses what's there, and sometimes what's their doesn't always match what's inside. So I believe it's 100% possible, for the the items that were there to be stitched together stitch together a male. Who God originally intended to be a female, and so they have this female psyche this female spirit this female point of view and all the tools all the stuff that was there that was provided to God, could only be made into a male or vice versa there was a female but inside. Pastor Newms: [47:58] Sorry you said all the tools in it. Pastor Bill: [47:59] God intended them to be a female but the tools the matter that was provided to God, the only thing he could make out of it with something else, and I believe that's why some people are born without an arm or they're born half deaf or they're born blind or they're born one way or another, God only has certain materials to work with and he's not going to lie and make himself a liar and Rewind thousands of years of creation because all of a sudden, God's not God and we all cease to exist because the only thing holding all this craziness together is the idea the fact that God is God, and I've got isn't God anymore everything just falls apart. Pastor Newms: [48:43] So first off the reason I'm laughing is because you said the word tool a lot, and and certain people love to call certain parts tools and so it just it made me it made me like you kept going tools tools and I'm like tool because I'm 12 so, you know it works so what I wrote here is I agree of course because, the text, detect says so and then it says the first humans were male and female but the wording of this makes it seem very aggressive against all non-binary which, is of course even farther farther step than just trans you know there are people, non-binaries a much larger encompassing of you know trans and people who, there's lots covered under the whole umbrella so which is not spoken about in scripture anywhere, that I can. Pastor Bill: [49:48] I shouldn't even be a question. Pastor Newms: [49:49] That's what I'm saying it's not. Pastor Bill: [49:51] Finn was should we love everybody no matter what and Jesus said yes. Pastor Newms: [49:56] Right. Pastor Bill: [49:57] Cooks. Pastor Newms: [49:58] Yeah yeah and and so that's that's where this really comes down to and it really is especially the, the as we talked about its the wording and the the the way some of these questions are it's very much a do you agree to trans people should exist and you're like whoa whoa that's not. Pastor Bill: [50:18] But I can't just I can't I can't say this is a true or false statement like theirs. Pastor Newms: [50:25] Like this your what you're asking what you're asking me to say vs. what I believe about what you're asking me to say are two completely different things and I think that really makes this survey, garbage people. Pastor Bill: [50:43] But that's why we need to talk about it. Pastor Newms: [50:45] But yes so. Pastor Bill: [50:45] Because this is what people are talking about and they're looking at this and they're going well this is what Christians think about the world and I'm like. No that doesn't accurately represents how I feel about my neighbors. Pastor Newms: [51:03] And it doesn't accurate and again that's where it comes down to these questions are poor because it doesn't accurately represent what they mean and what people are going to take from it, and that's where these kind of questions in these kinds of surveys cause problems and cause divisiveness. But yeah and the state of and calling it the state of. Pastor Bill: [51:32] The state of. Pastor Newms: [51:35] And the state of Theology and then this is a question that's not a, theological question you're asking a morality question more than you're asking a theology question but that's beside the point asked what you mean say what these questions should be worded how they actually mean. Pastor Bill: [51:52] Same number 9. Pastor Newms: [51:53] Okay I'll wait to complain about that. Pastor Bill: [51:55] 9. The holy spirit is a force but is not a personal being thirty-three percent agree that the holy spirit is the force I'm sorry a force. That was a little Star Wars joke 26 percent yeah somewhat agree. Pastor Newms: [52:12] midi-chlorines. Pastor Bill: [52:13] We don't talk about midi-chlorians 15% are not sure 7% somewhat disagree and 19% where my people at strongly disagree, that the holy spirit is a force but not a personal thing and I wrote down John 14. Because I could look at my notes 15 through 18. Jesus talking “if you love me you will keep my Commandments and I will ask the father and he will give you another counselor to be with you forever he is the spirit of Truth, the world is unable to receive him because it doesn't see him or know him but you do know him because he remains with you and will be in you” and if you follow along with the story, Jesus references this comforter again and Point Blank tells them it's the Holy Spirit and to wait for him to arrive, after and you go on and that's what happens in Acts 2. Pastor Newms: [53:23] So, this is again this is all about wording, this is all about wording and I did not throw things at my wife as she was walking up and down the stairs and then she did not throw them back at me because I am a child, this is all about the wording of this does trip me up some I wrote disagree this spirit is a distinct part of the Trinity but it is a spirit not a physical being so the question is written in a way, that leans people to answer a certain way, I was only slightly distracted groggy huh the issue I have, is when you read personal being, right there's two things that that can come from that like he is distinct he is a being but when you read personal being and force, there's that, well he's not a person so not a person no but like the question is worded so poorly. It's that whole like I know what you're asking, but it's written really bad like like I could answer true because he is not a person because a person in our definition of person has a body, but person know being he is a distinct being so and he is a force because, he's not physical so there's there this is one of those questions where like I know what they're asking and. I disagree but the wording makes me want to pull my own ears off, if someone actually called me an actually asked me these questions I'm pretty sure they would just Mark me as no answer on all of them and hang up because they've get two questions in and their ears would be bleeding, cuz that would be a. Pastor Bill: [55:46] 10. The holy spirit gives a spiritual New Birth or new life before a person has faith in Jesus Christ. That's just poppycock I sat here and stared at the computer when I read that the first time when I was like, that's that's just that's ridiculous twenty-seven percent of people strongly agree with that statement, 23% somewhat agree 21 percent aren't sure 9% somewhat disagree in twenty percent strongly disagree, if the Holy Spirit. Pastor Newms: [56:53] 50% of that 27 percent didn't hear the word before. Pastor Bill: [56:56] Right I guess so if the holy spirit gives you a spiritual New Birth or new life before you have faith in Jesus Christ then you've attained salvation before you've attained salvation. Pastor Newms: [57:09] Well to be fair to be fair there are people who believe, there are a second Christianity who believe you are chosen in the past, before anything happened God chose who would be saved and that's actually talked about later there are people who believe that and so for the people who believe that this makes total sense, because oh yeah he he decided I'm going to have a new life before I had a new life and you're like putting. Pastor Bill: [57:48] This isn't said decided this is Gibbs this says this is this is saying those people who are elect they have they have new life a new birth when they're still before they believe that. Pastor Newms: [58:03] Some of them some of them believe that that they're perfect already. Pastor Bill: [58:08] Like they could just go out and murder a bunch of people and they would still go to heaven because they were chosen Before Time that's ridiculous. Pastor Newms: [58:17] So what verse did you right now. Pastor Bill: [58:20] The same one as for 9, “if you love me you will keep my commands and I will ask the father and he will give you another counselor” he's not you're not going to be given the counselor you're not gonna be given the Holy Spirit you're not going to have the Holy Spirit before you love Jesus and keep his commands you can't you can't hook up, you you take the horse and you hook the cart to the horse you don't put the horse behind the cart and hook the cart to the horse and then start whipping the cart like why won't this thing go. Pastor Newms: [58:56] So I wrote you know I wrote little passages for each of these as my personal notes so that way when you looked at me and I would go oh blah because, this one's heavier so I didn't want to misspeak off the cuff like I sometimes will so for number 10 I wrote disagree. And I didn't write anything else I wrote a scripture so I'll read the scripture but I wrote nothing I just wrote disagree because like you said huh, but I didn't write anything because I was like I don't have anything to write for that that is so silly my brain hurts so I wrote second Corinthians 5:17, and I said it's I said hmm, I've copied and it says “therefore if anyone is in Christ he is a new creation the old has passed away and see the new has come” you have to be, in Christ before you are a new creation this isn't a. Read the book sorry that's rude of me but some of these questions got me real hot and bothered some of these questions got me real hot and bothered. Number 11. Pastor Bill: [1:00:31] All right this is this is going to be a fun one 11. The Holy Spirit can tell me to do something which is forbidden in the Bible. Pastor Newms: [1:00:42] Do you want me to start you want me you want me to start. Pastor Bill: [1:00:49] Eleven percent strongly agree with that statement 11% somewhat agree. Pastor Newms: [1:00:54] Aha aha. Pastor Bill: [1:00:55] Sixteen percent aren't sure 11% somewhat disagree and a whopping 51% of people strongly disagree, with this statement but before I tell people what I chose. Pastor Newms: [1:01:08] Aha. Pastor Bill: [1:01:09] Imagine if you will you are Peter, in the New Testament and the Holy Spirit tells you, you can eat meat that isn't clean and you go but the Bible says I can't do that, so you must not be the Holy Spirit. Like God doesn't change but the way that he interacts with humans does, things that were forbidden for certain cultures in the Bible because it wouldn't have been good for them like eating pork because they didn't know how to take care of it, may not be forbidden for you as a person living in today in the Old Testament you couldn't wear cloth that was two different types of fibers, but that's okay today. Pastor Newms: [1:02:10] So so I know you know go ahead and say where you stand and and then I'm going to say what I wrote and why I wrote it. Pastor Bill: [1:02:18] I strongly agree with the statement that the Holy Spirit can tell me to do something which is forbidden in the Bible. Pastor Newms: [1:02:24] So I disagree and here's why, the things that we get from a holy spirit should align with scripture since we know God doesn't change and all in scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching rebuking correcting and and training in second Timothy now the reason I said this, is because of the wording of the question, the Holy Spirit can tell me to do something that is forbidden to me hope that didn't go through on Twitch. Because of the wording of the question and this is where the question is so terrible. There are people in our culture who has said things like God told me to murder my children and you're like death didn't go somewhere. Pastor Bill: [1:03:18] See that violates the spirit of the text you he won't tell you to violate the spirit of the text. Pastor Newms: [1:03:27] And that's what I mean when I say that not that. You know the Holy Spirit doesn't give Revelations doesn't give so like for example. I actually have this written later but in Romans and so will touch the, I'll put the thing out in a minute but in Romans you know everything is permissible but not everything is uplifting you know and that's not worded that way and we'll get to it in a minute because I've Canada written a couple of times but the, actually I should probably put it because we might not get there tonight so. You should know the scripture off the top of your head doo doo doo okay First Corinthians 10 23 so, because we're not going to get that we're not going to get down that far tonight the. Pastor Bill: [1:04:39] There we won't talk about sex tonight that'll be next week or the week after. Pastor Newms: [1:04:46] Oh crap what number are we on. Pastor Bill: [1:04:50] We are on number 11. Pastor Newms: [1:04:51] 11:00 okay so that's what I that's what I that's why I said the disagree, because the Holy Spirit won't need you to do something that is against the spirit of the law that doesn't mean he just won't convict you of something that he might convict someone else for that doesn't mean, if you you know there's a lot in there that is a gray area, but I wrote the disagree because of the spirit of the law who he is versus the letter of the law because the problem is this is one of those questions I know what you're asking me, I don't like how you asked it I know what you're asking but like you said if you're Peter you're. Pastor Bill: [1:05:41] I assumed they were asking about the letter of the law. Pastor Newms: [1:05:45] CI Pastor Bill: [1:05:46] Has so many Christians take it as this is they see this and they see this as a law book not a love letter this is a list of laws not as a you know. Pastor Newms: [1:05:58] And if you're looking at especially Old Testament Old Testament verses New Testament the Holy Spirit 100% did this 100% the holy spirit said now that's fine that's not that bad now that's. Pastor Bill: [1:06:11] Hey Samson pick up that Jawbone that's illegal for you to touch under religious law and go kill those men over there which is also a legal under religious law. No yeah the Holy Spirit definitely definitely doesn't care about the letter of the law. Pastor Newms: [1:06:31] But there definitely is a I understand why people are quick to go disagree and not think it through but I wrote the caveats of. Pastor Bill: [1:06:44] Without the caveat. Pastor Newms: [1:06:45] Really bad oh I. Pastor Bill: [1:06:46] Yeah without the caveat disagreeing to this statement is a very childish point of view on religion and the Holy Spirit. Pastor Newms: [1:06:58] And and makes the whole new testament almost invalid. Pastor Bill: [1:07:03] But with the caveat sigh can see how you would say disagree. Pastor Newms: [1:07:07] And that's again why these questions are so bad. Pastor Bill: [1:07:12] Hair number 12. Pastor Newms: [1:07:14] Twelve. Pastor Bill: [1:07:17] Everyone sins a. Pastor Newms: [1:07:18] Fun. Pastor Bill: [1:07:20] 12. Everyone sins a little but most people are good by Nature. twenty-seven percent strongly agree 30% 39% somewhat agree 16 work sure 14% myself included somewhat disagree and 14 percent strongly disagree, I actually have three scriptures here, we Jeremiah 17. Pastor Newms: [1:07:47] I've got a paragraph of caveats. Pastor Bill: [1:07:49] Nine through 10 then we're gonna go to Matthew 15 verses 17 through 20 then we're going to go to, if I can spell it Deuteronomy 13:9. Pastor Newms: [1:08:05] Deu that's how you spell it. Pastor Bill: [1:08:07] Yeah we don't have you D UE well I'm already in. Pastor Newms: [1:08:12] Why no deu because it's the abbreviation that's the only part I know how to spell. Pastor Bill: [1:08:16] 17 9 through 10 the heart is more deceitful than anything else and incurable, who can understand it I the Lord examine the mind I test the heart to give each according to his way according to what his actions deserve, right the heart is evil continuously Morrissey for our emergency food anything else Matthew chapter 15. Verses 17 through 20 this is Jesus talking, don't you realize that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach as the is eliminated, but what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart and this defiles a person for from the heart come evil thoughts murders adulteries sexual immorality these thefts false testimonies slander, these are the things that defile a person but eating with unwashed hands does not defile a person, violating religious law does not make you a bad person, and people aren't good by Nature their heart is deceitful and evil but that doesn't make them bad people, because it's when you act on those bad deceitful Nature's that defiles you, verse 39. Um the Lord was angry with Moses and he said I could let him go into the Promised Land. Your children whom you said would be plunder your son's who don't yet know good from Evil will enter there, I will give them the land and they will take possession of it so because the children didn't know good from Evil yet because they weren't at what people call the age of accountability, they weren't held accountable right so yeah everyone sends a little but there is this, certain time when you're young that it isn't accounted to you as unrighteousness yet, because you know the difference between Good and Evil and the heart is evil, so everyone is not good by nature but you can choose to be good, so it's this it's one another one of those that it's not that clear-cut. Pastor Newms: [1:11:07] Okay so for mine I actually wrote agree and here's why so we as humans are not perfect but that is different than being bad natured we are born that way, nature in and of itself you know the word and the connotation versus the diction of nature, the synonym Perfection of Adam flows through our veins so we are not perfect now most people, most people listen to The Guiding voice that we all have that is the holy spirit talking to us and for those of us that are not Christians and have the in filling there are still that voice that is trying to pull us towards which, there are many people who are good-natured outside of Christianity, are striving to do good as you said because they choose to do so and some people consider that part of nature, yeah then there are people who are just downright dirty, and I actually realized I just now when I was typing furiously actually wrote the word there but um I think this question is very worldly poured it where did poor. Pastor Bill: [1:12:21] Weirdly ported nice. Pastor Newms: [1:12:25] Poorly worded for the thoughts are trying to get to because I do believe everyone has a sin, a sinful nature but I believe everyone is, good-natured but good-natured and sinful nature are completely different because of the word good not perfect if it said most people are perfect by Nature well no, but good and perfect are two completely different things and so that's where for me I get that hang up of no you're not perfect no one's perfect, are you good you might be good enough you're not perfect, and that's it that's the Crux because Romans 5:12 therefore just as Sin entered the world through one man and death through sin in this way death spread to all people because all sinned none of us are perfect, and we start off not. Pastor Bill: [1:13:23] Your body is imperfect. Pastor Newms: [1:13:25] Good and perfect are completely different words which is why I think so many of these statistics need to be thrown out the window because these questions are just bad, so bad number 13. Pastor Bill: [1:13:43] 13. Even the smallest sin deserves Eternal damnation. It is is really is 15 percent strongly agree 10% somewhat agree, six percent aren't sure 11% somewhat disagree and 58% of respondents completely miss the concept, other propitiation of sins by the death of Jesus on the cross completely missed it, and said no the smallest sin doesn't deserve Eternal damnation Romans 3:23, “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” if you want to spend eternity with a perfect God then you must be perfect, sin is an imperfection, and invalidates you from eternity with a perfect God that's why we needed the sacrifice of Jesus, to take our place of imperfection to make us righteous and Justified and spiritually perfect. That's why the smallest sin deserves Turtle damnation, it's a it's a it's a heavy statement but if you want to boil it down to its like flipping on an on switch on or off switch either you are perfect or you're not either you pass or you fail. That's why we have the need for salvation because it's a pass or fail question it's not a oh you almost got there oh you you were sort of good enough it's not about good or bad it's pass or fail where you perfect or not. Pastor Newms: [1:15:52] Yeah and so what I wrote I'm assuming that pause was for me to go right sorry, so what I wrote is agree as we see, as we see in the same verse above so I reference Romans 5:12 again you know sin entered the world to all of us you know, we're all Sinners which separates us from God it's not a damnation for sinning but rather a separation from God, and sin so it's separating those two and because we are we can't not being and not being in a relationship with God, and so then I added the Revelations 20:15 because I. Pastor Bill: [1:16:44] Man you just jump straight into it didn't you. Pastor Newms: [1:16:48] I did I went straight to like. Pastor Bill: [1:16:50] You like you responded with the same. Pastor Newms: [1:16:52] I'm Nation. Pastor Bill: [1:16:53] Force that they ask the question you really you just met there there Gus too. Pastor Newms: [1:16:59] Yeah no, and everyone whose name is not written in the Book of Life was thrown into the Lake of Fire so it does not say, everyone who has sinned is thrown into the Lake of Fire it's not what it says, your damnation is not necessarily because of sin, the damnation is because of the lack of relationship, because you can't have a relationship and be in sin and we are in sin and so there's that it's a, it's a multi-step process it's not as cut and dry as six words sorry 12, seven words you know and and that's what what makes some of these questions so hard and heavy because it's like, but that's not the point the sin separates us Jesus came to fill that Gap so because of that, it's not the sit it's not the sin that dams us it's the separation that dams us and that bridge is, Jesus. Pastor Bill: [1:18:15] And if you're if you're looking at if you're looking at what we're saying what I'm saying and you're going wait a second a minute ago you said there's a certain age where you become accountable and your accountant you know you're held accountable to that sin nature, but you just said all is sinned and fallen short of the glory, did these The Book of Romans acts Revelation these aren't written for children audiences these are written to adults by an adult, to someone who's accountable to the words by someone who's accountable to the words this whole idea of, teaching people under 10 years old that they might go to hell if they said they never would have. Even that would never even cross their mind to teach that kind of thing, to someone under 13 when they were writing these scriptures that wouldn't even be a concept they would even talk about until after they became an adult like it would. Pastor Newms: [1:19:21] And because we're not going to get there, because we're not going to get there tonight and these kind of tied in for me and so I want to touch on it real quick, Revelation 20:11-15 and I saw a great white throne and when Seated on it and heaven was filled with his presence and there's no place was found for them and I also saw the Dead the great the small standing Before the Throne and the books were opened and another book was opened which is The Book of Life and the dead were judged according to their works that are written in the books and the Sea gave up the dead that were in it and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them and each one was judged according to their works. Pastor Bill: [1:19:58] First judgment. Pastor Newms: [1:20:00] So There's a there's judgments it's not just cut dry either there's multiple judgments because there are certain parts here, where you know certain things are at this point thrown into the Lake of Fire. Pastor Bill: [1:20:18] Now wait let's pause here let's pause for one second why are their judgments why are all of your actions judged. Pastor Newms: [1:20:27] It's not black and white it's not black and white. Pastor Bill: [1:20:29] It's not black and white if you were raised, in a isolated tribe in Papua New Guinea and lived your whole life and you never met someone who ever heard of Jesus and you never heard of Jesus. What black and white you're not you go to hell that's not how that works that's why the Judgment exists. Pastor Newms: [1:20:50] Where's the accountability. Pastor Bill: [1:20:56] The Judgment exists so that can be argued out with God and God can do what God does, you know and this is where we get this idea of well they were elect they weren't chosen they followed they caught on to this idea of everything that Jesus was, even though it's physically impossible for them to have ever heard the law, Paul even says it if you've never heard the law you're not accountable to the law. But that wasn't but that wasn't the command the command was To Go Make Disciples not to go make converts. Pastor Newms: [1:21:43] Certain points I know I know I know but I'm just, I'm just saying there were some people who that was there well I don't want to because if I tell someone, then they they're they're tied to. Pastor Bill: [1:22:00] So what if you grew up being taught one thing and you embraced it and then later you found out that that technically was blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and that's unforgivable what well that's what the judgement is for, you go into the judgment and God sees what you were taught that you you've had no better understanding no one who taught you better than what you knew and so you know that's up to God, if you're held accountable to that anyway. Pastor Newms: [1:22:40] Now this leads in the number 14 quite fun Lee number 14. Pastor Bill: [1:22:46] God counts a person is righteous not because of one's works but only because of one's faith in Jesus Christ now technically, the numbers on 13 and the numbers on 14 should have been the exact same, but they weren't 34% of people strongly agree. Pastor Newms: [1:23:04] But they weren't no because the questions are worded bad. Pastor Bill: [1:23:09] 3% some way agreed 10% weren't sure 13% somewhat disagreed and twenty percent strongly disagreed, um I agree I agree with that statement God council person is righteous not because of your works like because of one's faith in Christ Jesus and I wrote down Romans 3:20 to just one scripture above the one I use for this last question, um the righteousness of God. Pastor Newms: [1:23:37] What what did you say cuz. Pastor Bill: [1:23:38] Romans 3:22 “The righteousness of God is through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe since there is no distinction, no distinction between all those who believe whether Jew or Greek or Gentile slave or free is the distinction he's talking about.” Pastor Newms: [1:24:02] So I wrote agree because if you're if you're looking at righteousness this is I agree and I used Ephesians 2 8 and 9, for you are saved by grace through faith and this is not from yourselves it is God's Gift not of works so that no one can boast and I wrote agreed this one's pretty self-evident, I mean it there's a verse that literally just says, through faith not works like this one's written out pretty well like this one in this one's hard to argue in my mind if you are subscribing to Christianity, this one is kind of. Pastor Bill: [1:24:45] All right save me 15 and this will be the last one for the night, everyone is born innocent excuse me everyone is born innocent in the eyes of God, I agree with that if you've been listening the rest of the evening you know that I agree that were born in a similar state to Adam and Eve, and until you know the difference between right and wrong the difference between good and evil until you reach that age which is going to be different for everybody so you reach that age, you are considered innocent and it is accounted to you as righteousness until you know the difference between good and evil and it is at that point, that you are then accountable like say you're 23. Your Down syndrome to a point not all down syndrome there are certain Down syndrome people that they get to a certain age and they never continue progressing mentally they stay 10 or 11 or 12 mentally, it's not common it does happen them well in my mind, they I don't think they understand yet the difference between good and evil right and wrong and so technically they would still be under that Grace area of being an, there are other people that are much younger age they have some kind of trauma and they become all too familiar with good and evil right and wrong, well that's when they become accountable to knowing good and evil right and wrong, and then we talked about the idea of being in an isolated you know look there's that island off of the coast of India, that's never been visited by someone that wasn't born on the island as long as we've been recording history there's no way they have any concept of who the Hebrews were or who Moses was or Abraham was or who, Muhammad is or who Jesus is, that's not a concept that they have unless Jesus visited them in their dreams and get you know um. Pastor Newms: [1:26:59] And we won't know because no one's talked to him. Pastor Bill: [1:27:00] We won't know because always talk to them and Yuki you literally will get killed by the Indian government, by the Indian military if you try to approach the island like they're keeping it protected its this microcosm they're allowing those people to develop on their own scale, which I think is great what if you live there what is the accountability the spiritual accountability between you and God, that's between you and God and I can guarantee you that when God looks at those people he looks at those people and judges them, on a daily basis according to their own culture and their own sense of morality you know what I mean, um Pastor Newms: [1:27:49] I do but. Pastor Bill: [1:27:50] Put. Pastor Newms: [1:27:54] I wrote disagree and here's why because Romans 15:12, “Therefore just as Sin entered through the world through one man and death through sin in this way death spread to all people because all sinned” I believe that everyone has sinned. Pastor Bill: [1:28:11] You said 15:12 no. Pastor Newms: [1:28:13] This is where that question yeah 15:12 which I've already used above so. Pastor Bill: [1:28:19] Romans. Pastor Newms: [1:28:22] Everyone is born yeah. Pastor Bill: [1:28:24] Okay I was like 15:12 is and again Isaiah says the root of Jesse will appear. Pastor Newms: [1:28:31] No 5:12 my issue is again with the wording of this question, what they mean to ask is do you believe this innocent nature is what they're asking what they asked is innocence and, it's kind of like the opposite like the conversation between good and perfect it's similar in this state we are all sinners that does not mean we are all, Sinners because judged innocent and, born innocent are different so to me they could be viewed as innocent because they have followed the morality is of their culture they know right from wrong in their culture they they've done what they need to do so God will judge them accordingly, but they are born Sinners we all are, so I think there's a caveat there that again makes some of these questions not black and white. Which is funny because we've op answered opposite on some of them even though they just because of how we did in between us we interpreted. Pastor Bill: [1:29:52] And you're right in in the way they're asking the question because they have key findings, and they don't give a key finding on everyone but on number 15 I do they said the fact that almost two-thirds of evangelicals believe that humans are born in a state of Innocence reveals that the Biblical teaching of original sin is not embraced by most evangelicals started it. Pastor Newms: [1:30:16] But that's not what the question is asking to you. Pastor Bill: [1:30:19] That's not what the question says that's what the question says that all. Pastor Newms: [1:30:22] But to me it does. Pastor Bill: [1:30:23] They meant to ask but it's not what they ask. Pastor Newms: [1:30:25] To me I read because of our upbringing being different I was raised in a way that that makes sense you're not born innocent you're born a sinner You're Not Innocent but innocence is a. Pastor Bill: [1:30:36] Let's see that's not that's not the way the question came across to me from my perspective. Pastor Newms: [1:30:44] Exactly that's what's so and that's the problem so in closing since we're going to wrap up here at 15, to me that's the biggest issue with this survey is that they don't take into consideration what people mean, by their answers they're just taking their answers and anytime you ask someone you can ask me and Bill the same question a thousand times and there are times we have set at these desks, meet this desk him at that desk away from y'all in random meetings middle of a day hey I got a question what do you think about and then argue, four hours, on what does is mean what does the truly form they're like you know and, sometimes we end up agreeing at the end sometimes we end up not talking for a couple days because I'm mean. Pastor Bill: [1:31:39] Would be what is a soul and what is a. Pastor Newms: [1:31:42] Great we still don't agree on that. Pastor Bill: [1:31:45] We still don't agree on what is a soul and what is the spirit like we have completely opposite. Pastor Newms: [1:31:48] We agree. Pastor Bill: [1:31:51] Definitions we agree that everyone has both but we have complete opposite definitions of which is why. Pastor Newms: [1:31:57] Exactly and it's complete and so that's one of those things was when you deal with something like this and then someone publishes their findings and the problem with it is let's take the key findings, and compare it to what this says thirty percent of Christians don't believe in original sin we just saw someone who agreed, that everyone's born Innocent but believes in original sin you cannot make that correlation based on how these questions are worded because these questions suck, thingies balaam's. Pastor Bill: [1:32:34] Wow yeah it's bad data. Pastor Newms: [1:32:37] It's such. Pastor Bill: [1:32:38] Data it's so bad. Pastor Newms: [1:32:38] And and people are using it oh. Pastor Bill: [1:32:41] The questions are bad the the answer options are bad the fact that there's nowhere for you to explain so that outliers can be removed to stop from skewing the data doesn't exist. Pastor Newms: [1:32:54] The fact that we only have 3000 people answering it. Pastor Bill: [1:32:58] Right if you submitted this to any serious data analytics, person company anything this would get laughed out of the room it absolutely is horrible. Pastor Newms: [1:33:10] It's not a good cross-section. Pastor Bill: [1:33:11] This is what people are talking about, people are talking about this in Tick-Tock to talking about social media people who aren't Christian or grabbing a hold of this and going did you see what they believe now what they are talking about you and me what they believe now and I'm like that doesn't represent, what I believe that isn't were to represent what I believe most Christians believe. Pastor Newms: [1:33:33] And there are certain. Pastor Bill: [1:33:34] I think that represents that represents a skewed collection of data based off of what I'm a minority of rich, people who claim to be Christians believe. Pastor Newms: [1:33:48] Well and also. Pastor Bill: [1:33:49] But that doesn't represent us as a whole. Pastor Newms: [1:33:51] And also I thought it was funny there was a particular person who's a, clergyman I don't remember what they're called in their SEC their denomination of Christianity and they're like see everyone's coming to our side now, and you're like. Pastor Bill: [1:34:06] Unitarianism yeah. Pastor Newms: [1:34:07] Yeah and I'm like are they or do they not understand the questions because human beings don't understand what they're being asked because they're being asked it wrong but anyway, that's all I have. 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On this glorious God Pod episode, the "silly gang" Jesus and Mary Mags join me to talk TV shows, Trump trying to manifest himself out of crimes, prison's basement, the slow-moving moral arc of the universe, and Jediism. On JFC LOL we discuss Lil Nas X ordering pizza for Christian protesters, Umass football's Pride Day vs Liberty University, Benny the butt plug, Eminem topping the Christian billboard charts, Kanye not reading books, and I read Facebook troll comments. On Holy S*** we read Adam Levine's sext memes, chat about Beyond Meat's cannibalistic behavior, and lubing the highway.  Follow the God Pod on Apple, Spotify or your favorite podcast app.  Follow us on twitter @thegodpodshow and thegodpodcast.com Get the God Pod ad-free at patreon.com/godpod Give us a review, we'll read it on the show: https://ratethispodcast.com/thegodpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 102 of our book read/podcast covering major topics in various fields of psychology moves us into PSYCHOLOGY OF RELIGION! This summer we are going to discuss religion from a psychological and historical perspective as we investigate the evolutionary origins and modern social systems of religion. In this episode we discuss HYPER REAL RELIGIONS and the influence of pop culture on religious systems and in some cases how they define and develop into religions and belief on its own. We discuss two in particular, Tolkienism, the belief of J.R.R. Tolkien as real history and Jediism and its growth across western countries. Correction: In this episode I (Daniel) state Gil-galad was the bearer of the ring of fire (Narya) and while he was given the ring by Celebrimbor it was based on to lieutenant Cirdan the shipwright at the Grey Havens who himself passed it on to Gandalf. I apologize for the oversight… Jedi Websites: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/ https://www.becometheforce.com/ https://www.jedichurch.org/ PSD Website: https://psychosocialdistancingpodcast.com/ Thomas' Webpage: https://sexography.org/ Thomas' Twitter: https://twitter.com/TBrooks_SexPsy Daniel's Twitter: https://twitter.com/ScienceInChaos Theological Perspective of the Week: Dudeism

This week we take a fascinating look at a fairly new faith/religion. At least, in this day and age. It is Jediism! Founded in 2005...this is an actual religion. Not Sci-Fi, Fan Fiction, or Cosplay. What's even more fascinating are the correlations between Jediism and the Mystics (or Way of the Mystics)! This is a really interesting, fascinating, and eye-opening episode you won't want to miss! Source of information... Temple of the Jedi Order Episode Photo by Matthew Ball on Unsplash ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Infinite thanks to ALL of you for listening! I pray you find what you are looking/searching for - and more - here! Please keep listening and share the show with as many people as you feel it would benefit/help! If you would like to make an offering to the show. I created a "wish list" on Amazon.com. It's a never-ending gift, so to speak. Please do not feel obligated, in any way. Some have asked for ways to make offerings to/for the show. This is it. Here's the link to the show's wish list... Faith and More Podcast Wish List Check out our website!! This is an incredibly easy way to access the show, show notes, listen to the show, request prayers, and contact me! https://faithandmorepodcast.wixsite.com/my-site Contact me at... faithandmorepodcast@gmail.com or at anchor.fm/faith-and-more #jedi #templeofthejediorder #force #yoda #lukeskywalker #darthvader #obiwankenobi #theforce #compassion #mystics #mysticism #loveyourself #forgiveness #faith #hope #love #peace #digdeep #healing #trulyamazing #faithandmore #starwars #jediism --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/faith-and-more/message

For today's Talk Heathen, we have Secular Rarity joined by Nate Smith and Jason Sherwood who will take calls in search of the answers for the big questions in life.Patrick in FL is first and wants to talk about the difference between a panpsychism and a panprotopsychism. There seems to be a problem when we try to put a nice little neat circle around consciousness and then extrapolate that for all living beings. Response to stimuli does not necessarily mean that something is conscious. How do we determine the difference between responding to outside stimuli and a self aware being? How do you make the leap to all consciousness being connected in the universe? What is the value of thinking this?Xeno from South Korea would like to pose the ontological argument for god. The hosts asked several times, “Xeno, what do you mean by ontology? “ The caller was unable to provide a definition. Jason in TN has religious friends that are uncomfortable with the struggle of trans people going through transition. The Bible does not really talk about trans people but the bigots like to take the opportunity to lump everything together. We need to stop gatekeeping who is and is not accepted in that community, and tear down the barriers of tribalism that have poisoned us for so long. Jason in FL says that Jediism started as a myth and has turned into reality, and that we can do amazing things with the mind. It is a physical and mental art of disciplining oneself. There have been many religions that have been used as the philosophy of Jediism. Do you believe in The Force and have the ability to lift stuff up with your mind? This sounds more like a philosophical practice rather than a woo woo religion. If you get more out of movies than art and entertainment, then more power to you. Just be careful if you feel like these things are literally talking to you.Thank you for tuning in! Thank you to the essential workers!

With the Kickoff of National LGTBQ+ Pride month on Wednesday, I am SO ExCiTed to be speaking with my this weeks guest on Empowered Conversations, Jeff Perdue Adkins!!!When Jeff was 18, he was being bullied by a coworker who had threatened to out him. Jeff did come out later that year and he decided that he would live his life openly, so that no one else would live in fear!Jeff describes himself as a Divine Space anchored by his in-breath and solidified by all other sparks of the Divine. He is a loving, compassionate, and powerful leader who is creating a truly awesome life, not only for himself but for those in his sphere of influence. He is an instrument of peace in the perceived chaos! He is a resilient adventurer who chooses to love his life, be the dominant creator, and live in his purpose with health and vitality.Jeff is a Productivity Coach, Jedi Cleric and host of The Creative Nomad Podcast. He has worked with multiple international best-selling authors, artists, coaches, and Fortune 500 companies to create brands, grow sales, and create systems and processes that foster freedom, creativity, productivity, AND profitability.He is also in the process of creating the Orange Dragonfly Transformational Center and Temple of Jediism that he says is going to be a cross between an RV park and summer camp, where people will come to balance their mind, body, spirit, and business.Jeff currently lives in a 1993 Tioga Montara with his young puppies, Prince Rupert & Prince Fredrick, so that he can live more intentionally, see beautiful places, and show others that you can live your TRUE AWESOME LIFE... no matter what that looks like!http://www.orangedragonflycenter.com/

Episode 10, comin' at you! Original faves like What in Gods Name, Add the Drama, Stupid Criminals, Breaking News, and this week some brand new segments! The Podcast World will never be the same. Your favorite new show: Pull Yourself to Pieces, where we find humor from the inside and out. Follow us on twitter @pullpieces and Instagram  @pullyourselftopieces --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pull-yourself-to-pieces/support

A parody religion or mock religion is a belief system that challenges the spiritual convictions of others, often through humor and satire. This week, Gavin brings in some famous examples of parody religions, while Chris and Leah help to come up with their own parody religion. (Hint: It gets pretty deep.) Don't forget to follow on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter! https://www.facebook.com/thisstrangeworldpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/thisstrangeworldpodcast/ https://twitter.com/thisstrangepod/ And check out more This Strange World links here: https://linktr.ee/thisstrangeworldpodcast Sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody_religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster https://www.britannica.com/topic/Flying-Spaghetti-Monster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gospel_of_the_Flying_Spaghetti_Monster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Stupid%27s_Day_Parade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphalos_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism

In this episode, Aled leads a discussion into invented religions - new religions which take inspiration from popular culture and uses it as metaphor to understand themselves and their world. We talk about what it means to be a “new” religion and how play can be serious and meaningful at the same time. We spend a bit of time on both Jediism and the Church of the SubGenius, both invented religions but who take the form in two different directions.If you're interested in the blog post by Paul-Francois Tremlett about Jediism and how it complicates the idea of religion, you can check it out here.For the Guardian article about Tesco's discrimination against Jedis, you can read that here.Follow us on social media:@vivianasimos@aledjllthomas

On this week's episode, Hannah and Mia dive deep into strange religion with Jediism and the story of Keemonta Peterson.

Today's draw is Render Aid and Reject Knowledge. Discover how a World War II doctor's actions saved the life of an enemy and the value his story has for followers of Jediism. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/support

In this episode we talk about Parody Religions! These are religions based in pop culture, or as a commentary on religion. Should they be taken as seriously as mainstream religions? Join us as we talk about everything from Jediism to the Invisible Pink Unicorn! Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holywatermelon Spreadshirt: https://shop.spreadshirt.ca/holy-watermelon-podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/NurpUjS7cc

Today's Jedi Sextant Draw is: Reckless & Overcome Defeat. In this Native American story, a Rabbit tries to be an otter. We will explore how the Rabbit could have benefitted from applying the Jediism (via the Jedi Compass) to his own life. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/support

I drew the Jedi Sextant cards Be Honest, Break Attachments & Be Dishonest, which led me to a Lappland (Saami) story called "The Daughter of the Sun".  In this episode, we talk about a youth's decisions and how they measure up in Jediism using the Jedi Compass. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/support

Followers of Jediism may believe that Following the Force is what makes one a Jedi, but did you know that even in the fiction this notion is unsupported? In this episode of Jedi Journal, Keith "Sotunus" Williams and Ally discuss the dangers of following the Force, and why a Jedi should always temper their decisions with the Jedi Code. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/support

The Scooby Gang discusses both the fictional Jedi from the Star Wars Films compared to the real Jedi that have popped up across the world. Ryan from Radical Retro Rewind Podcast joins us as we tell the tale of reality inspiring fiction inspiring reality.  patreon.com/onceuponacult

These two documents are the basis for Jedi Journal, so it's only appropriate that our first real episode covers what exactly these are and how they fit into Jediism.  To learn more, visit: JEDI COMPASS- KnightsofAwakening.com/jedicompass JEDI SEXTANT- KnightsofAwakening.com/jedisextant --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/support

Welcome to Jedi Journal, a place to explore Jediism. In this episode Ally introduces the newest podcast at Knights of Awakening and the Jedi Community. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/knightsofawakening/support

This week Star shares 5 "out of the box" religions with you. Raelism, Euthanasianism, Jediism, Pastafarianism, and Dudeism. So join us for some convos about what's happening in our cosmos. Get comfortable cuz you're in for a ride. Listener discretion is totally advised on this one y'all. Don't forget to listen after the credits for a special little treat.

This week we talk Star Wars- ever heard of it? Hayley takes us to a galaxy far far away in 2001, and covers the religion of Jediism. Next, Kat receives a package from daddy.. It’s a bottle of vodka! And teaches a lesson on vodka, or as we like to call it- “second water.” We are unsure if vodka was invented in Russia or Portland, the history is a little murky- just as a vodka night should be. This episode is sponsored by BYLD Bar.  For 10% off your first order of BYLD Bar visit byldbar.com and enter the promo code NIGHTCLASSY. Our Website Produced by Parasaur Studios © 2020

Jumping right into week 2 of our Strange Religions mini series, with the nerdiest religion you can possibly imagine. This week, we reminisce about the outside world, and Rose tells us about The Four Marys in Linlithgow, Scotland. Then Chelsea fulfills all of her husband's nerdy dreams by learning all about the real (totally crazy) religion: Jediism. May the Force be with you. And also with you. Amen. Hosts: Rose Fueston & Chelsea West Edited by: Chelsea West Theme Song Composer: Jorge Ivan Ramirez Marin Find us on: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/DAAMpod Email: dinnerandamurderpod@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/daampod/support

More than half of American adults and more than 75 percent of young Americans believe in intelligent extraterrestrial life. This level of belief rivals that of belief in God. American Cosmicexamines the mechanisms at work behind the thriving belief system in extraterrestrial life, a system that is changing and even supplanting traditional religions. Over the course of a six-year ethnographic study, Dr. Pasulka interviewed successful and influential scientists, professionals, and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who believe in extraterrestrial intelligence, thereby disproving the common misconception that only fringe members of society believe in UFOs. She argues that widespread belief in aliens is due to a number of factors including their ubiquity in modern media like The X-Files, which can influence memory, and the believability lent to that media by the search for planets that might support life. American Cosmic explores the intriguing question of how people interpret unexplainable experiences, and argues that the media is replacing religion as a cultural authority that offers believers answers about non-human intelligent life. Pasulka and Shermer also discuss: the definition of religion fictional religions and historical religions Jediism as a religion new religious movements and cults Mormonism and Christianity Scientology as a UFO religion how to be spiritual without religion Nietzsche, Jung, and archetypes scientific truths and mythical truths astronomical observatories and medieval cathedrals UFOs as Sky Gods for Skeptics; aliens as deities for atheists, and the rise of the Nones and the future of growth of new religions. Diana Pasulka is a professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, and chair of the Department of Philosophy and Religion. Her current research focuses on religious and supernatural belief and practice and its connections to digital technologies and environments. She is the author and co-editor of numerous books and essays, the most recent of which are Believing in Bits: Digital Media and the Supernatural, co-edited with Simone Natalie and forthcoming from Oxford University Press, and Posthumanism: the Future of Homo Sapiens, co-edited with Michael Bess (2018). She is also a history and religion consultant for movies and television, including The Conjuring (2013) and The Conjuring II (2016). Listen to Science Salon via Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Play Music, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, and TuneIn.

That's right, today is a particularly weird one as Connor digs up one of the more niche areas of modern religiosity, in the form of "UFO religions". Joe, Sam, and Nye offer up their thoughts on questions like "Why do people join cults and believe in aliens?" and "what makes religions legitimate?". From Melanesian cargo cults to Jediism and from Scientology to the Universal Church of the New World Comforter, we discuss all kinds of bizarre religions, strange cultural movements, and dangerous cults. As it was a sunny Spring morning and perfect barbeque weather, we left the window open... with no concern for our listeners. So we hope you like traffic, planes, and seagulls. Here is an article written by Connor which explores the religious nature of UFO movements: https://twobeersuntilphronesis.weebly...

Christianity is utterly dependent on one truth: Jesus Christ has risen from the dead. Nothing else matters if this statement is false. If Jesus didn't come back to life then all of Christianity is a waste of time. But we believe and know that Jesus has risen from the dead and as a result, that changes everything.Join Pastors Sam and Caleb for what is their first recorded podcast as they talk about why the resurrection matters and how one day after we die, we too will be raised from the dead to live forever in eternity with our Savior. Topics include Jediism, Scientology (shhh), Apologetics, Types of Knowledge, the Grand Narrative, bowties, robes, and snakes. So grab a drink, pull up a seat, and join us at The Table as we talk about the Resurrection.Main text being discussed is 1 Corinthians 15.Information on Jediism.Questions? Email the hosts, podcast@redeemerconnect.comDon't forget to rate, review, and share this podcast!

Rev. Dr. Carl Gregg December 17, 2017

Small collectives of Star Wars fans all over the world follow the spiritual path of the Jedi. But this isn't about fandom or cosplay. They live, train, and work by the Jedi Code. And while this philosophy is rooted in modern science fantasy, the tenets are not much different from the core of Buddhism or Christianity. Alli and Jen speak with the organizer of California Jedi, Katie Mock. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you passionate about mindfulness, consciousness, and loving others? The Church of Jediism has lessons that can get you pumped and put you at peace every day, whether you’re a Star Wars fanatic or haven’t even seen a single movie. The Church’s founder Daniel M. Jones is the author of international best-selling book Become the… The post LL 064: Becoming the Force w/ Daniel M. Jones appeared first on Lavendaire.

We've made it to a dozen free-range episodes and it's time to go full nerd. We watch a few hopeful nerds, with different troubled backgrounds, go out into the woods so a circle of other nerds can determine if they will be Jedi Knights. We watched 2017's "American Jedi" by Bronies director Laurent Malaquais. Pop culture blurs with spirituality as Bob Sham and Jonni take a critical eye (and a critical thigh) to what may or may not just be LARPing. Will these cloak-hooded enthusiasts convince Jonni to set his Star Trek bias aside and allow him to accept Jediism as the one true religion? How many golf shirts does your neighborhood Sith-Lord own? Is Bob just one of those jerky "Han Solo" guys? Listen on, young padawan. May the force be up in you.

When does a protest religion become an actual faith? What happens when purely fictional modes of belief leak off the page or screen? Join Robert Lamb and Joe McCormick as they discuss modern religious movements, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the rise of so-called hyper-real religions like Jediism and Dudeism (Originally published March 29, 2016) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Imagine a world where people can interact with the universal energy that binds us… a #StarWars -like world where martial arts are employed to teach Jedi-like skills… and a world where thousands of British people registered their religion as "Jedi" in the 2001 census. You've guessed it: you're already living here. Daniel M Jones, founder of the Church of Jediism, tells Christian Cawley about the church, and his book: Become the Force - 9 Lessons on How to Live as a Jediist Master. **Shownotes** _[Become the Force](http://amzn.to/2Cfkqxu "Become the Force by Daniel M Jones")_ on Amazon

The Stuph File Program Featuring Daniel Morgan Jones, founder of the Church of Jediism & author of Become the Force: 9 Lessons on How to Live as a Jediist Master; memory expert Dave Farrow; & Peter Franklin, the Gabby Cabby Download Daniel Morgan Jones, CEO & Founder of The Church Of Jediism talks about his new book, Become the Force: 9 Lessons on How to Live as a Jediist Master. Memory expert Dave Farrow talks about memory tournaments and how technology might be making our memories a little soft. Peter Franklin, the Gabby Cabby, shares a slice of The Big Apple from his yellow mobile conveyance lounge. This week’s opening slate is presented by Duke Eatmon broadcaster/writer & author of Chuck D Presents This Day in Rap and Hip-Hop History. Many thanks to Donnie & Grace, hosts of In Your Face With Donnie & Grace who invited me on their New York City podcast to talk about my book Great Conversations: My Interviews With Two Men On The Moon And A Galaxy Of Stars

In this interview, recorded at the SocRel 2017 conference in Leeds, Professor Adam Possamai discusses the rising popularity of ‘Hyper-Real religion’ – a category encompassing Jediism, Matrixism, and other movements taking influence from popular culture. Situating hyper-real religions within the contemporary context of digital capitalism,

Theresa Cheung is the author of more than 20 books on spirituality and personal transformation, and conducted multiple interview sessions with Church of Jediism founder Daniel M. Jones in order to bring "Become the Force: 9 Lessons on How to Live As a Jediist Master" to the world. My conversation with her about the book, the church, and Star Wars is right here for you. Punch it! ***I'm listener supported! Go to http://Patreon.com/sw7x7 to donate to the Star Wars 7x7 podcast, and you’ll get some fabulous rewards for your pledge.***  Check out SW7x7.com for full Star Wars 7x7 show notes and links, and to comment on any of the content of this episode! If you like what you've heard, please leave me a rating or review on iTunes or Stitcher, which will also help more people discover this Star Wars podcast. Don't forget to join the Star Wars 7x7 fun on Facebook at Facebook.com/SW7x7, and follow the breaking news Twitter feed at Twitter.com/SW7x7Podcast. I'm also on Pinterest and Instagram as "SW7x7" too, and I'd love to connect with you there!

In honor of the 10th anniversary of the founding of the Church of Jediism and the upcoming release of "Become the Force: 9 Lessons on How to Live As a Jediist Master," I had a conversation with author and church founder Daniel M. Jones about how the church and the book came about, what the plans are for the church in its next decade, and what the founder of a church based on the Jedi teachings thinks when he hears Luke Skywalker saying it's time for the Jedi to end. Punch it! ***I'm listener supported! Go to http://Patreon.com/sw7x7 to donate to the Star Wars 7x7 podcast, and you’ll get some fabulous rewards for your pledge.***  Check out SW7x7.com for full Star Wars 7x7 show notes and links, and to comment on any of the content of this episode! If you like what you've heard, please leave me a rating or review on iTunes or Stitcher, which will also help more people discover this Star Wars podcast. Don't forget to join the Star Wars 7x7 fun on Facebook at Facebook.com/SW7x7, and follow the breaking news Twitter feed at Twitter.com/SW7x7Podcast. I'm also on Pinterest and Instagram as "SW7x7" too, and I'd love to connect with you there!

Ian kicked off the show by questioning his and Nat's relationship and checking in to see how Barry's cheaper than chips holiday went. We rang Cian Twomey to chat about his new book with the super catchy title of ‘Go Fuck Yourself, Cian!'. Also on the phone, was Daniel M. Jones aka Morda Hehol, who is founder the Church of Jediism.

Ian kicked off the show by questioning his and Nat’s relationship and checking in to see how Barry’s cheaper than chips holiday went. We rang Cian Twomey to chat about his new book with the super catchy title of ‘Go Fuck Yourself, Cian!’. Also on the phone, was Daniel M. Jones aka Morda Hehol, who is founder the Church of Jediism.

Claims of life after death and psychic ability is often discredited by the skeptic community as fraud, and even worse: "pseudoscience". But to parapsychologist and fellow researchers at The Rhine Research center, an objective mindset must prevail -- so let the exploration of unusual experiences and exceptional phenomena in a laboratory environment commence at once!   Links to Loyd Auerbach ~ New Advancements in Paranormal Research -- the Rhine Research Center What Is the Church of Jediism? Sample Loyd's new book: “Mind Over Matter” Other books by Loyd Auerbach:       “ESP Wars”       “ESP, Hauntings and Poltergeists” Forever Family Foundation -- studying phenomena associated with survival of consciousness after death    

In this special Christmas edition, I chat with Daniel M Jones, founder of the Church of Jediism. I try to find out about the Jedi lifestyle, what it entails, and for deeply personal reasons, I ask how one would go about setting up their own religion.Music by Deal Casino

“Greetings, exalted one!”  This episode is the last in our series on Star Wars.  The first was on how religion and myths influenced the creation of the Star Wars saga.  In last month’s review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, we found the film had more style than substance, and that the only mythology that it relied on was its own.  This episode is the reverse of the first one, we look at how Star Wars has influenced religion in real life.  We look at how Jediism has become an actual thing, where people take the values, teachings and concepts from the movie and apply them to daily life. Like any religious movement, there are several views on how to follow through on this application, and we look at two of them. But it still begs the question: Is this actually a religion? And our TV corner is the recently aired live show “Tyler Perry’s The Passion” Jedi census phenomenon-Wikipedia AT OVER 255,000 STRONG THE CHURCH OF JEDIISM IS A FORCE The Jedi Foundation www.jedichurch.org  So Many Australians Are Claiming 'Jedi' as Their Religion That It's Becoming a Problem In next month’s episode we offer our Summer TV Round-Up.  Mike and I will look at four shows that have graced the airwaves, the cable, and the streaming devices. There are so many choices now, and you’ll get our opinions on them. Until then, blessings!

On this weeks episode of Comic Book Junto Octavius & Adam talk about their potential Comic Book Junto Panel at New York Comic Con, the growth of Jediism in Australia, and how some DC fan are responding to early Suicide Squad reviews. They answer a listener question, they review Batman #4, and they review Kill Or Be Killed #1 Please remember to tweet @NY_Comic_Con and say "I want to see the @ComicBookJunto panel at #NYCC #CBJ4NYCC" Follow Octavius on Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat at @OctaviusANewman Follow Adam on Twitter, & Instagram at @adamteterus Follow Adam on Snapchat at "adjoterus" Follow B3AR FRUIT on Twitter, Instagram & Snapchat at @B3ARFRUIT Keep the conversation going by tweeting us using #ComicBookJunto Submit your question for our Talk Back segment using #AskCBJ on twitter. E-mail us your questions and feedback at comicbookjunto@b3arfruit.com Head over to HTTP://B3ARFRUIT.COM to sign up for our newsletter. Check out B3AR FRUIT's online store at HTTP://SHOP.B3ARFRUIT.COM Theme music for Comic Book Junto is by Daniel Steele Check his music at https://soundcloud.com/danielsteelemusic Follow Daniel on Twitter at @DSteeleMusic Follow Daniel on Instagram at @DanielSteeleMusic This episode of Comic Book Junto was edited by Average Joe. Follow Average Joe on Twitter at @AverageJoeDela

On this week's episode of Full Frontal Nerdity we debate the wisdom of inviting Russians to hack your system, we discuss the awesomeness that is Windows 10, and we digress about whether Jediism is the best religion. You can't make this stuff up! (Even though we did).

In this episode we talk to Daniel Jones, founder of the Church of Jediism in the UK. We discuss his background with Star Wars, his interest in founding a new religion, his experiences with the media, and this conflict he's having with the Temple of the Jedi Order. In this follow up conversation to last weeks call with Br. John of TTotJO, we get Daniel to agree to a three-way call with Br. John to bring balance to the Force. Stay tuned to see what happens.

In this episode we talk about Jediism with the founder of the Temple of the Jedi Order, Br. John Henry Phelan. We talk about his history with Star Wars, the creation of his church, and the issues he has with another branch of Jediism called The Church of Jediism. Stay tuned for Part 2 of this series next week with Daniel Jones, founder of the Church of Jediism.

The Stuph File Program Featuring Daniel Morgan Jones, CEO & founder of The U.K. Church of Jediism; Letha Marchetti, author of Dragons & Daisies: Keys To Resolve Baffling Behaviors In Early Childhood Education; & Nick Gianoulis, creator of The Fun Dept Download Daniel Morgan Jones is the CEO and founder of The U.K. Church of Jediism, based in Wales. They have just released a Star Wars themed song entitled Journey Of A Jedi that is available on their site for download. Letha Marchetti is an educator, neurodevelopmental occupational therapist and the author of Dragons & Daisies: Keys To Resolve Baffling Behaviors In Early Childhood Education. She discusses dealing with the sometimes baffling behaviour of children. Companies like Google, Zappos and Southwest develop winning workplace cultures with high productivity and profitability. Regardless of the industry, there is a common thread running through the highest performing companies; the inherent or stated culture of fun. Nick Gianoulis created The Fun Dept which specializes in employee engagement, team building and corporate events. He's also the co-author of Playing it Forward: The Definitive "How To" Model for Creating a Winning Workplace Culture. This week's opening slate is presented by Yvette Samuel, niece and medical office assistant at Somerset West Community Health Centre in Ottawa.

SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR:  http://www.naturebox.com/thinkingatheistThis is a fun one.  Seth Andrews explores some religions borne or (or influenced by) iconic films.  In this episode, he interviews a representative of The Temple of the Jedi Order (Star Wars), and a Dudeist Priest from The Church of the Latter Day Dude (The Big Lebowski).These are likely not the churches you'd see on a neighborhood street corner, but they're out there, and we're going to take this opportunity to find out more.   

Today I sit down with Michael, a member of the Jedi Faith or Jediism.  We discuss his Faith’s history, Doctrine, and how it is often made light of but really a viable alternative to one who is disillusioned with other organized religion.  He talks about the force, the Jedi Code, and How their faith incorporates […] The post 096: Jediism: Temple of The Jedi Order appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.