The Controversial Exchange

In this episode, RyanO, Danielle, and Dimitri close down the podcast. Thanks for your continued support, and remember we'll still keep an eye on social media and our email account. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, Ryan, Danielle & Dimitri welcome on Jordan Belisle to talk about relational density theory and model dependent realism, and the implications it has for behavioral science researchers and practitioners. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO, Danielle and Dimitri welcome on Dr. Kimberly Nix Barens to talk about the state of the failed education system and how a group of behavioral scientists have developed a model that works for everyone Get her new book at https://amzn.to/3cQwcRs. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO, Danielle & Dimitri invite Michael Maloney onto the podcast to talk about the history of educational practices, the shortfalls that we continue to encounter, and promising solutions that have been tried and tested to be able to alleviate learning difficulties across the world. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO, Danielle and Dimitri and Danielle welcome on Dr. Ross Greene. Ross is an American clinical child psychologist and author of the books The Explosive Child, Lost at School, Lost & Found, and Raising Human Beings. Greene developed a model of intervention called Collaborative & Proactive Solutions (CPS). He has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology. Greene is founding director of the non-profit Lives in the Balance and developed and executive produced the documentary film, The Kids We Lose. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO and Dimitri and Danielle welcome on Dr. Keira Moore to discuss healthy sleeping routines, the intricacies of sleeping behavior, and personal experiences with sleep! Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO and Dimitri welcome on David J. Cox to talk about behavior analysis and how to "Save the World" with additional skills, interdisciplinary collaboration, and thinking differently. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Abby Brooke's Bio: https://walkingautism.co.ke/about-abby/ In this episode, RyanO, Danielle, and Dimitri welcome on Abby Brooke to talk about Walking Autism - Abby's journey of walking across Africa to raise awareness of Autism and provide inspiration to others. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce Advertiser: Behavioral Intervention Certification Council: http://www.behavioralcertification.org/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Camille Morgan, MSC, BCBA, LBA, IBA https://www.instagram.com/camwillmadeit_ https://readysetaba.com Adrienne Bradley M.Ed., BCBA., LBA https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-bradley-m-ed-bcba-lba-2845aa180 Black Applied Behavior Analysts, Inc. BABA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Nonprofit-Organization/Black-Applied-Behavior-Analysts-Inc-922186191457883 BABA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blackappliedbehavioranalysts Website, Membership & Conference: https://www.babainfo.org/ Shades of ABA Podcast Shades of ABA Podcast: https://anchor.fm/shadesofaba Shades of ABA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shades_of_abapodcast DEI Resources List (Mor Podcasts, Meetings, Links, Articles, Organizations, and Social Media Pages)-> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nIiyLeti9Wytbk0yZKQRKhzulX5ixULOofY_vcUV3j4/edit?usp=sharing --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO, Danielle and Dimitri welcome on Ryan Sain to talk about Open Educational Resources in Applied Behavior Analysis. Timestamps are coded into the top comment! Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO (he/him/his), Danielle (she/her/hers) and Dimitri (he/him/his) invite Worner Leland, BCBA (they/them/theirs) and Barbara Gross, MA, BCBA, LBA, CSE (she/her/hers) to discuss sexual behavior and Applied Behavior Analysis. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: In an attempt to be reflective, responsive, and responsible, we chose to remove two episodes: 1) "Reflections from ABAI and The Lack of Operational Definitions | TCE #008" and "Listener Mail: Tired of the Bullshit & a Follow-up to Privilege and Culture" from our platform. The controversial exchange has always been about having tough, transparent, and controversial discussions about sensitive topics, with the goal of presenting multiple perspectives. Sometimes we present our own personal opinions, sometimes we play Devil's advocate, and sometimes we present perspectives that are common, yet unpopular and silent in the public domains of the community. After listening and learning over the past year from advocates, experts, and countless other resources and information, as featured in episode #21 on Cultural Awareness, we recognized that those episodes are not a valuable contribution to the conversations today and in fact may result in unintended pain. Our goals and hopes are to engage and push the conversation forward rather than backward and therefore be part of the solution. Therefore for clarity, we affirm that black lives matter, social, racial, economic injustice are the challenges and issues of our time and change only comes from joining in solidarity with those who are most harshly impacted while recognizing what role each of us plays. We are open to and have extended the option to have these conversations with potential guests and hope to feature them in future episodes. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO and Dimitri welcome on Brett Yarris with the Pro Football Network and Biokinetix. I assure you, that even if you're not into football or fitness THIS WILL REINVIGORATE YOUR PASSION FOR THIS FIELD. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO and Dimitri react to a great talk delivered at the Society for the Quantitative Analysis of Behavior (SQAB) by Murray Sidman. Full show notes and original video can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, Danielle and Dimitri catch up on life amidst the pandemic as a BCBA. Full show notes can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, Dimitri and Danielle talk about why philosophy matters and bring in some current readings they've been sifting through! (I wasn't available to read and record, so I sat this one out!) We hope you all enjoy! :) Full Show Notes Available at: https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, Dimitri and RyanO invite Liat Sacks Kachlon and Casey McDaniel onto the show. They host "The Behavior Bitches Podcast" which takes a different approach than what we typically see in our field. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO and Dimitri invite Onaida Sanchez and Shane Spiker on to talk about Cultural Awareness and Humility in Applied Behavior Analysis. Full show notes w/ timestamps: https://www.thedailyba.com/tce-episodes/03222020/cultural-awareness-humility-tce-021 Please note that this was recorded in January prior to the current world pandemic. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO, Danielle & Dimitri talk about some of their favorite readings. Stay safe, and if you want to join the webinar mentioned it's open to the first 100 participants (REGISTER HERE), the recording will be shared publicly, for free, indefinitely upon completion of the webinar. Dimitri's Recommendation's Science and Human Behavior by: B.F. Skinner Learning and Complex Behavior by: J.W. Donahoe & D.C. Palmer The Dynamics of Behavior Development: An Epigenetic View The Blue Books: Goldiamond's Functional Analysis of Behavior The Eden Conspiracy by: Joe Harless Behave by: Robert Sapolsky Can't Hurt Me by: David Goggins Marcus Aurelius: Meditations Danielle's Recommendation's Coercion and Its Fallout The Happiness Trap A Liberated Mind Evolution and Contextual Behavioral Science: An Integrated Framework for Understanding, Predicting, and Influencing Human Behavior Changing Cultural Practices: A Contextualist Framework for Intervention Research The Nurture Effect: How the Science of Human Behavior Can Improve Our Lives and Our World Misbehaving: The Making of Behavioral Economics Freakonomics: Revised Edition Ryan O's Recommendation's A History of the Behavioral Therapies: Founders' Personal Histories Rule-Governed Behavior: Cognition, Contingencies, and Instructional Control Learning RFT: An Introduction to Relational Frame Theory and Its Clinical Application Behavioral Science: Tales of Inspiration, Discovery, and Service Omnibus Edition Tactics of Scientific Research: Evaluating Experimental Data in Psychology Understanding Behavior Disorders: A Contemporary Behavioral Perspective The Logic of Modern Science The Scientist-Practitioner: Research and Accountability in the Age of Managed Care (2nd Edition) Let Me Hear Your Voice: A Family's Triumph over Autism Houston, We Have a Narrative: Why Science Needs Story --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RyanO and Dimitri talk about the ABA Landscape. This includes perspectives on various professional organizations like ABAI, BACB, and APBA as well as some anecdotes on the controversy that occurs in the field of behavior analysis. Timestamps can be found at https://www.thedailyba.com/tce-episodes/03082020/the-aba-landscape-tce-019 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

0:01:13Topic Introduction: Critical evaluation of ideas and practices in Behavior Analysis and the RBT 0:06:50Check out these resources for more information on Logical Fallacies 0:07:01 Check out this link for more information on William James and Pragmatism 0:11:35 As of January 2020 there are 70, 361 RBTs - Check out the BACB's Statistics 0:13:21 Topic Shift: What is an RBT? Who are they? 0:13:45 Approved Instructor = 'Non-certified RBT® Supervisor' or 'Non-certified VCS Instructor' as outlined in the BACB's Supervisor Training Curriculum Outline (2.0) 0:17:35 Check out this link for more information on the RBT requirements 0:20:10 Topic Shift: The RBT training requirements and recent changes 0:21:53 Applied Behavior Analysis by Cooper, Heron, and Heward (i.e., The White Book) 0:22:13 Check out the December 2018 BACB newsletter on the recent RBT changes 0:27:15 Check out the National Commission for Certifying Agencies (NCCA) 0:27:57 Toward the Certification of Behavior Therapists by W. Stewart Agras (1973) 0:28:00 Topic Change: Should we be certifying people or procedures? What are the barriers and resources involved? 0:31:35 Issues In Evaluating Behavior Modification: Proceedings of the First Drake Conference on Professional Issues in Behavior Analysis, March 1974 by W. Scott Wood (1975) 0:46:28 For more information on Todd Risley's contributions to behavior analysis check out Todd R. Risley (1937-2007) by Lutzker (2008) 0:49:35 Topic Change: What are some of the concerns with the RBT certification process? 0:50:08 RBT® Initial Competency Assessment: Responsible Assessor Checklist by the BACB 0:51:17 For the BACB caseload recommendations refer to the Applied Behavior Analysis Treatment of Autism Spectrum Disorder: Practice Guidelines for Healthcare Funders and Managers 0:54:11 For a summary of Goldiamond's work on 'degrees of freedom' check out Expanding the behavior-analytic meanings of "freedom": The contributions of Israel Goldiamond by de Fernandes and Dittrich (2018) 0:54:51 Check out the BACB's YouTube channel 1:00:57 Topic Shift: The times are changing, and we're behind! 1:03:00 Check out the Association for Behavior Analysis International (ABAI) 1:03:52 Check out the BACB's Podcast: Inside the BACB 1:05:09 Check out all the affiliated ABAI Chapters 1:06:36 Check out Matt Norman 1:07:15 Topic Change: The systems in the field and the associated barriers 1:14:35 Topic Change: What are this episode's takeaways? 1:17:41 Check out the Teachers College at Columbia University 1:17:44 Check out Doug Greer from the Teachers College 1:18:15 Check out the American Psychological Association (APA) 1:19:53 For more information on Gerald Shook check out Gerald L. “Jerry” Shook: Visionary for the Profession of Behavior Analysis by Iwata, Sundberg, and Carr (2011) 1:20:32 Call to action for organizations: Share as much relevant information as possible 1:20:58 Call to action for practitioners: Place a bigger focus on effective in-house training 1:22:13 Call to action for practitioners: Hold people to high standards 1:24:28 Call to action for business owners: Adjust your business model to reflect quality over quantity --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

0:00:45 Topic Introductions: Translational research, the role of research, and is there an article for everything? 0:03:31 Check out Dixon et al. (2016) Stimulus Preference and Reinforcement Effects of the Madagascar Hissing Cockroach (Gromphordahina Portentosa): A Case of Reverse Translational Research 0:03:34 Check out Jarmolowicz, D. P., Lemley, S. M., Mateos, A., & Sofis, M. J. (2016). A multiple‐stimulus‐without‐replacement assessment for sexual partners: Purchase task validation. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 49, 723-729. 0:04:40 Check out Carl Binder and his contributions 0:06:08 Check out the video of Skinner's APA Convention keynote address in 1990 0:07:09 Topic Change: What is research? What kind of research is out there? 0:09:55 Check out Linda Hayes and her contributions 0:09:57 Check out the Parrott Hayes Lab at the University Nevada Reno 0:15:50 Topic Change: Ryan and Dimitri discuss when and how they search the literature 0:19:08 Check out the podcast Why We Do What We Do 0:21:20 APA Handbook of Behavior Analysis edited by Gregory Madden 0:24:58 Check out T. V. Joe Layng and his contributions 0:28:49 Shout out to Mark Malady! 0:29:35 World Hypotheses: A Study in Evidence by Stephen Pepper 0:30:40 Learning and Complex Behavior by John Donahoe and David Palmer 0:34:45 Topic Change: Dimitri and Ryan share their tips on critically evaluating and consuming the research 0:39:53 Retzlaff et al. (2020) A translational evaluation of potential iatrogenic effects of single and combined contingencies during functional Analysis 0:41:17 Check out Greg Hanley and his contributions 0:43:38 Hayes, Hayes, & Reese (1988) Finding the philosophical core: A review of Stephen C. Pepper's World Hypotheses: A Study in Evidence 0:46:40 Check out Steven Hayes and his contributions 0:46:42 Check out Mark Dixon and his contributions 0:46:43 Check out Mark Sundberg and his contributions 0:46:45 Check out Pat McGreevy's bio 0:53:45 Check out Rick Kubina and his contributions 0:54:34 The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by Edward Tufte 1:01:28 Check out Sham and Smith (2014) Publication bias in studies of an applied behavior‐analytic intervention: An initial analysis 1:08:24 Topic Change: So is there an article for that? Is there in other fields? 1:08:45 Food Dudes (Repeated Tasting Research Reference) 1:13:10 Check out these Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) Bootcamps 1:13:51 Check out the WWDWWD podcast episode on Berserkers 1:13:54 Check out the WWDWWD podcast episode on Zombie Ants 1:14:19 Tom Buqo 1:15:50 From AI to Zeitgeist: A Philosophical Guide for the Skeptical Psychologist by N. H. Pronko 1:20:35 Check out the What Works Clearinghouse 1:22:50 What Is Evidence-Based Behavior Analysis? by Tristram Smith 1:23:26 medical article with tiers/criteria? 1:25:58 Check out Edward Morris and his contributions --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

0:00:30 Check out the video of Skinner's APA Convention keynote address in 1990 0:01:30 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan start the video and begin their commentary/review 0:02:18 Check out Ferster & Skinner's Schedules of Reinforcement (1957) 0:02:28 Check out The University of Minnesota's website for more information on Richard M. Elliott and his connection to Skinner 0:03:15 Check out Division 25 (Behavior Analysis) of the APA 0:03:45 Check out the Association for Behavior Analysis International (ABAI) 0:03:46 Check out the Association for Professional Behavior Analysts (APBA) 0:03:50 Check out the APA Convention 0:04:05 Check out our episode Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell 0:06:15 Check out Watson's Psychology as the Behaviorist Views it (1913) - AKA 'The Behaviorist Manifesto' 0:06:30 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan discuss the timeline/history of the science of behavior 0:06:45 Check out Skinner's The Behavior of Organisms (1938) 0:08:16 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan discuss Skinner's method of advocating for the science of behavior 0:09:45 Check out these articles for more information on J. R. Kantor - Fryling & Hayes (2017) and Moore (1984) 0:11:15 Topic: Ryan provides a quick run down on the history of Cognitive Psychology and Behaviorism 0:15:38 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan tie Skinner's speech to Selection by Consequences, Philosophy, and Functional Contextualism 0:18:43 Check out Skinner's About Behaviorism (1974) 0:22:55 For additional information on Goldiamond's approach Check out Layng's (2009) The Search for an Effective Clinical Behavior Analysis: The Nonlinear Thinking of Israel Goldiamond 0:24:09 Check out Steve Hayes' research and contributions 0:24:55 Topic: Ryan and Dimitri debate various issues around whether or not this speech contributed to the divides in behavior analysis within and outside of the field 0:28:20 Check out Ogden Lindsley's (2013) Skinner on Measurement 0:38:08 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan review Skinner's statements on the use of vernacular 0:41:50 Check out Skinner's (1971) Beyond Freedom and Dignity 0:43:35 Topic: Ryan and Dimitri reflect on how these statements made by Skinner are still applicable today --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

0:01:15 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan each talk about why and how The Controversial Exchange got started 0:06:15 Topic Change: A reflection of the podcast's growing pains in 2019 0:06:15 Check out the Why We Do What We Do podcast 0:08:00 Check out episode #004 Unethical & Unprofessional Behavior Analysts with Merrill Winston 0:08:00 Check out episode #014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell 0:08:40 Check out episode #005 Mental Health & Behavior Analysis w/ Tina Patterson 0:08:40 Check out episode #010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion 0:09:25 Check out episode #002 Do Behavior Analysts DESERVE to Branch Outside Autism? w/ Miranda 0:09:25 Topic Change: Next steps, goals, and changes for 2020! 0:13:20 Are you interested in discussing a big issue in the field of behavior analysis on The Controversial Exchange? Reach out to us! 0:13:20 Check out Linda Hayes' research contributions and publications 0:18:10 Topic Shift: Ryan's content goals for The Controversial Exchange and The Daily BA 0:18:10 Topic Change: Ryan and Dimitri discuss their personal gains from recording a podcast 0:26:05 Shout out to our (~1000) regular listeners - we are so lucky and grateful! 0:26:05 Topic Change: Ryan and Dimitri open up about their personal lives 0:36:28 Topic Change: The field in review - growth, continuing education, social media, shareholders, and more 0:36:28 Check out the Inside the BACB podcast 0:37:10 Check out Jim Carr's research contributions and publications 0:37:10 Check out the Association for Behavior Analysis International's (ABAI) Blog 0:41:25 Check out the Behavior Bitches Podcast 0:41:25 Check out the Confessions of a Behavior Analyst group on Facebook 0:46:40 Check out the Changes to the BACB's International Focus 0:46:40 Check out the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS) 0:51:55 Call to Action: Tell us what your thoughts are on 2019 and what you want to see in 2020 through our social media channels! Thank you all again! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Full Links located at: https://thedailyba.com/tce 0:01:30 Hosts and Guests (Matt and Anita!) Introductions and Backgrounds in EAB! 0:02:25 Check out Matt's lab at SCU 0:03:10 Check out Michael Dougher's contributions and publications 0:03:57 Check out Al Poling's contributions and publications 0:04:00 Check out the journal Behavior Analysis: Research and Practice 0:04:30 Topic Change: What is EAB? 0:04:45 Question for listeners: Have you ever worked with animals? 0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Analysis of Behavioral Momentum (1983) 0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Momentum of Compliance (1996) 0:08:10 Topic Change: Where is EAB's current and future focus? 0:09:20 Check out the Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior 0:10:20 Check out Peter Killeen's contributions and publications 0:11:47 Check out Timberlake and Allison's (1974) Response Deprivation: An Empirical Approach to Instrumental Performance 0:14:30 Topic Shift: How does EAB benefit practitioners? 0:20:45 Topic Shift: The methodology of EAB, ABA, and Contextualism 0:21:20 **Dimitri's friend and scorpion work** 0:25:55 Topic Change: The current status of funding in EAB 0:27:05 Check out Matthew Bell's (2018) Winter is Coming to the Experimental Analysis of Behavior 0:28:45 Check out B. F. Skinner's contributions and publications 0:28:45 Check out Skinner's (1959) Cumulative Record 0:30:35 Check out the Society for the Quantitative Analyses of Behavior (SQAB) 0:30:40 Check out the Association for Behavior Analysis International (ABAI) 0:30:55 Topic Shift: EAB, Neuroscience, and Interdisciplinary Research 0:31:30 Check out Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst by Robert Sapolsky 0:35:35 Check out Skinner's (1961) The Flight From the Laboratory 0:37:42 For more information on adjunctive behavior check out Killeen and Pellón's (2013) Adjunctive Behaviors are Operants 0:37:42 For more information on adjunctive behavior check out Foster's (1978) Adjunctive Behavior: An Under-Reported Phenomenon in Applied Behavior Analysis? 0:37:50 Check out Brian Iwata's contributions and publications 0:38:20 Check out the National Institute of Health (NIH) 0:38:20 Check out the National Science Foundation (NSF) 0:39:45 Check out Jarmolowicz's (2018) EAB is Fine, Thanks for Asking 0:40:00 Check out Adam Fox's (2018) The Future is Upon Us 0:41:30 Topic Change: What is the role of Universities and other Organizations? 0:44:10 Check out BACB Certificant Data and Growth 0:45:30 Check out Division 25 (Behavior Analysis) of APA 0:46:10 Topic Shift: Is the identity of a Behavior Analyst changing? 0:49:25 Question for listeners: What are the metrics/measures of a successful field? Tell us in the comments! 0:49:50 Check out Ogden Lindsley's contributions and publications 0:55:45 Call to listeners: Don't be afraid to submit a paper, poster, talk to a conference/journal! 0:56:33 Check out Jonathan Tarbox's contributions and publications 0:56:35 Check out the journal Behavior Analysis in Practice 0:57:15 Topic Change: Is it too effortful for the practitioner to conduct research? CONTINUED AT https://thedailyba.com/tce --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

0:01:44 Introduce Merrill Winston - Check out TCE's previous episode with Merrill 0:01:47 Introduce Jim Moore - Check out The Daily BA's video The Field Didn't Change... The Profession Didn't Change... I Changed w/ Jim Moore 0:01:50 Topic: Pliance, Tracking, Rule-Governed Behavior and how this relates to Authority and Power 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Hayes & Wilson (1993) Some applied implications of a contemporary behavior-analytic account of verbal events 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Rule-governed behavior: Cognition, contingencies, and instructional control by Steven Hayes 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Kissi et al. (2017) A systematic review of pliance, tracking, and augmenting 0:03:15 Check out Jordan Belisle's research contributions and publications 0:08:30 Topic Change: How Pliance has affected the divide between academia and practitioners 0:09:40 Check out David Barlow's research contributions and publications 0:12:35 Check out the BACB's stats on the number of practitioners obtaining certification since 1999 0:17:55 Topic Change: Merrill and Jim talk about sources of bias based on individual preferences and rules 0:19:55 Check out Starting Strength's website for further information on Mark Rippetoe 0:26:25 Check out Finding the philosophical core: A review of Stephen C. Pepper's World Hypotheses: A Study in Evidence by Steve Hayes, Linda Hayes, and Hayne Reese (1988) 0:28:00 Check out Brian Iwata's research contributions and publications 0:28:05 Check out Mark Durand's research contributions and publications 0:34:30 Check out The Daily BA's video I Didn't Know Her Circumstances with Pat Friman 0:37:10 Check out the Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: The Case Against Freedom with B. F. Skinner 0:38:25 Check out Skinner's Verbal Behavior (1957) 0:40:08 Check out Skinner's About Behaviorism (1976) 0:41:35 Check out a list of Skinner's contributions and publications 0:41:40 Check out Steven Hayes' contributions and publications 0:43:38 Check out Timothy Vollmer's contributions and publications 0:44:35 Check out Reinforcement magnitude and the inhibiting effect of reinforcement by Jack Michael (1979) 0:44:50 Check out William Baum's contributions and publications 0:51:08 For additional reading on Green's Adjusting-Amount and Adjusting-Delay Procedures check out Do adjusting-amount and adjusting-delay procedures produce equivalent estimates of subjective value in pigeons? by Green et al. (2007) 1:05:10 Check out Rob Wolff's website for further information 1:06:13 For additional information on the future of behavioral science and evolutionary science check out the video Evolution and Contextual Behavioral Science Dialogue Between the Editors 1:06:40 For an example of Skinner's early work reflecting on biogenetics check out The phylogeny and ontogeny of behavior 1:08:10 Topic Change: The importance of collaborating within behavior analysis and with other sciences in order to move forward 1:10:05 Check out Mark Dixon's contributions and publications 1:10:20 Check out The Daily BA's video Threats to Behavior Analysis w/ Hank Schlinger 1:13:25 Check out Skinner's Beyond Freedom and Dignity 1:18:15 For more information on PEAK check out their website: https://www.peak2aba.com/ 1:22:05 Check out the winners of the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1949 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Links for Today 0:02:57 Topic: The differences between new and experienced BCBA's 0:06:02 Check out the Daily BA's video on Behavior Analysis's Communication Problem 0:06:27 Topic Change: Everyone's role in disseminating good/bad and right/wrong information 0:12:57 Check out one of the Daily BA's videos with T. V. Joe Layng 0:13:27 Check out the Daily BA's video with Jim Moore 0:13:27 Check out TCE's episode with Merrill Winston 0:21:12 For additional reading on the comparison of the spread of disease and misinformation on social media check out "Ideas spread like disease: Let's treat them with the same caution" published by Nick Enfield on The Guardian's website 0:24:32 Check out TCE's upcoming episode with Merrill Winston and Jim Moore 0:25:52 Check out this video interview with Joe Rogan, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay for more information about the hoax papers project 0:29:32 Topic Change: The dark side of behavior analysis 0:29:32 Check out the trailer for The Great Hack (2019) 0:35:02 Check out TCE's episode "Everybody Lies… Including Behavior Analysts!" with Kathy Fox 0:42:42 Call to action: Get informed! 0:46:57 Dimitri's Flat Earth Society Update --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Links for Today 0:03:07 Kathy, Ryan, and Dimitri discuss "Everybody Lies: Big Data, New Data, and What the Internet Can Tell Us About Who We Really Are" by Seth Stephens-Davidowitz 0:03:32 Check out the Ted Talk: "The Secrets in Our Google Searches" with Seth Stephens-Davidowitz 0:15:32 Check out the Convergence Conference (CHATT Con) hosted annually in Seattle 0:15:32 For some extra reading on AI and Psychotherapy check out Luis de Mello and Alves de Souza's (2019) theoretical piece "Psychotherapy and Artificial Intelligence: A Proposal for Alignment" 0:19:57 Topic Change: The importance of our privacy vs. our free access to social media 0:27:02 Check out Marques Brownlee on Youtube 0:29:22 Topic Change: Could big data lead to the extinction of behavior analysts? 0:29:57 Check out Koenig's (1971) summary of Ogden Lindsley's Behavior Bank - "The Behavior Bank: A System for Sharing Precise Information" 0:30:12 Mentioned: Skinner's article in Time Magazine (1971) - "We Can't Afford Freedom" 0:31:12 Check out OpenAI.com 0:32:12 Check out the Daily BA's video on Neuralink 0:41:02 Check out AnswersNow 0:43:07 Topic Change: Can we, and do we want to stop technology advancements like AI? 0:46:12 Check out Shane Dawson and his video "The Return of Eugenia Cooney" 0:48:12 Check out Microsoft's $1B investment into open AI 0:54:07 Topic Change: Should advancements in this technology affect policy change? 0:56:27 Check out the Society for Human Resource Management (SHRM) survey results 1:07:57 Topic Change: Group privacy vs. Individual privacy 1:09:07 For some extra reading on Facebook studies and informed consent check out Flick's (2016) article "Informed consent and the Facebook emotional manipulation study" --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri reflect on a recent episode of the Behavioral Observations Podcast w/ Matt Cicoria on The Illusion of Work/Life Balance. Thanks for inspiring us Matt, Jonathan, and Kristen! 0:02:24 Check Out: The Behavioral Observations Podcast 0:02:29 Check Out: The Daily BA's Video on Work-Life Balance 0:09:14 Topic Change: RYANO's Experience and Advice for Balancing Life, Work, and Personal Values 0:12:14 Topic Change: Is there such a thing as work-life balance? 0:14:14 Topic Change: Value Directed Behavior and Competing Values 0:17:29 Check Out: Jordan Harry's Ted Talk How To Read a Book a Day 0:19:54 Check Out: Matthew Norman's We're All Damaged 0:22:14 Topic Change: Preventing Burnout 0:24:19 Topic Change: Time Wasting Behavior 0:26:59 Topic Change: Flat Earth Society Check-In 0:29:14 Call to Action: Audit you Life and Create a Weekly Time Budget (168hr), Share your Tips and Tricks with Us! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri ask some questions about the process for identifying Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis.  Links for Today 0:02:14 Topic: Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) 0:17:14 Check Out: The BACB's process on SME 2:17:14 Topic Change: The Gap between Academics and Practitioners 5:02:14 Topic Change: Subspecializations and the Certification Process 5:52:14 Check Out: The BACB's videos on Subspecialty Areas in Behavior Analysis 14:47:14 Topic Change: Gaining Subject Matter Expertise and being Deemed an SME 22:17:14 Call to Action: Learn, Discuss, and Share the info you have on SME! *Amazon links are affiliate links. No other links are affiliates unless disclosed in parentheses next to the link. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri go raw and uncensored with a Facebook Live audience to talk about honesty in science, their favorite toilet paper, conference in behavior analysis, neurodiversity and more! Make sure to call in using the anchor app -> https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Carl Binder to talk about accomplishment based performance and the field of behavior analysis. 0:00:00 - Introduction to the Episode! 0:01:37 Topic Change: Carl Binder's Introduction 0:01:58 Check Out Walden Two by B. F. Skinner 0:08:17 Check Out the Six Boxes Model 0:09:25 Topic Change: Accomplishment Based Learning Explained 0:10:10 Check Out The Eden Conspiracy: Educating for Accomplished Citizenship by Joe Harless 0:22:40 Topic Change: The Performance Chain and Outcomes/Outputs Explained 0:30:25 Topic Change: Variables Involved in Improving and Maintaining Human Performance 0:49:20 Topic Change: Money and Values in the field of ABA, Education, and Organizations 0:53:45 Check Out Integrating Organizational-Cultural Values With Performance Management by Carl Binder 0:57:50 Check Out Some Current Dimensions of Applied Behavior Analysis by Baer, Wolf, and Risley 0:59:20 Check Out The Right to Effective Education by Barett et al. 1:00:50 Check Out Behaviorism and Ethics by Vargas and Krapfl 1:15:15 Check Out the CHATTCon Conference coming up in July 2019 1:17:10 Check Out the Standard Celeration Society 1:18:40 Check Out Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Harari 1:21:10 Topic Change: Listener Questions about Fluency 1:31:15 Topic Change: Binder's Advice to Aspiring Entrepeneurs 1:34:17 Check Out Fit Learning 1:38:25 Check Out the Next Gen Revolution Summit coming up in 2019 1:40:35 Check Out The Blue Ocean Strategy by Chan Kim and Renee Mauborgne 1:42:20 Check Out The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It by Michael Gerber --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Support this podcast through www.patreon.com/thedailyba In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Tina Patterson to talk about mental health and the field of behavior analysis. Timestamps Today (FULL LINKS FOR ALL HERE) 0:00:00 Topic: Mental Health and Autism 0:03:04 Check out: SAMHSA (The Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration) 0:05:09 Topic Change: The History and Current Status of ABA and Mental Health 0:05:52 Check out: The CDC report and statistics on Children and Mental Health 0:08:49 Check out: Why Behavior Analysts Should Study Emotion: The Example of Anxiety by Pat Friman, Steven Hayes, and Kelly Wilson 0:12:24 Check out: The research from the Center for the Developing Child at Harvard University 0:13:09 Check out: Relationship of Childhood Abuse and Household Dysfunction to Many of the Leading Causes of Death in Adults. The Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study by Felitti et al. 0:13:54 Check out: Neuroanatomy for Students of Behavioral Disorders by Ronald Green and Robyn Ostrander 0:14:09 Check out: Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst by Robert Sapolsky 0:14:24 Topic Change: Trauma, Psychiatric Disorders, and the Competence required to Treat 0:14:39 Check out: A sample quiz to get your ACEs score 0:14:44 Check out: A List of published study's related to ACE, chronic illness, and more 0:28:06 Check out: the Adverse Childhood Experiences Scale (ACEs) 0:29:02 Mentioned again: Relationship of Childhood Abuse and Household Dysfunction to Many of the Leading Causes of Death in Adults. The Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study by Felitti et al. 0:30:19 Check out: Information on the IISCA0:31:59 Mentioned again: The research from the Center for the Developing Child at Harvard University 0:32:14 Check out: NIH Child and Adolescent Mental Health 0:32:49 Check out: Psychological and Psychosocial Impairment in Preschoolers With Selective Eating by Zucker et al. 0:32:54 Topic Change: Medication and Treatment 0:35:39 Check out: Johns Hopkins Pharmacogenomic Testing 0:35:39 Check out: Mayo Clinic Drug-Gene Pharmacogenomics 0:42:19 Topic Change: Open-Ended Education, Resources, and Dissemination 0:44:44 Check out: https://practicalfunctionalassessment.com/ 0:48:44 Check out: "Clinician with a Mission" on Facebook 0:50:24 Topic Change: Training and Educating Practitioners and the BACB Task List 0:50:29 "Check out the following bullets on the BACB Task List: G-02: Consider biological/medical variables that may be affecting the client. G-05: Describe and explain behavior, including private events, in behavior-analytic (non- mentalistic) terms. G-07: Practice within one's limits of professional competence in applied behavior analysis, and obtain consultation, supervision, and training, or make referrals as necessary." 0:54:12 Check out: Icing on the Cake: The Role of Research in Practitioner Training by Joshua Pritchard and Byron Wine 1:04:04 Matthew P. Normand and Carolynn S. Kohn Article 1:05:39 Topic Change: OBM, Entrepreneurship, and Financial Freedom 1:08:09 Check out: The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It by Michael Gerber 1:23:34 Check out: Walden Two by B. F. Skinner --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Support this effort through www.patreon.com/thedailyba Key Timestamps: 0:00:00 Introduction & How to Support 0:03:21 Topic Change - Coming up: The current state of EAB 0:07:14 Check out Episode 004 with Merrill Winston 0:14:10 "The Blue Books" by Israel Goldiamond 0:17:53 Topic Change - The market of Behavior Analysis and OBM 0:21:25 Check out these works by William Abernathy (one) and (two) 0:23:55 Check out the FIT OBM Certificate Program 0:24:00 Check out Carl Binder's Six Boxes Model 0:28:23 Topic Change - Dimitri and Ryan's advice on gaining experience in the field 0:42:10 Topic Change - Back to OBM, ABA, and Behavior Analysis 0:49:25 Topic Change - Coming up: Panel at ABAI about scientific communication 0:57:40 Topic Change - Coming up: The Behavior Analyst's Guide to Junk Science 0:59:00 "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" by Carl Sagan - Chapter: "The Balogna Detection Kit" 0:59:40 "Controversial Therapies in Autism and Intellectual Disabilities" by Richard Foxx and James Mulick 0:59:50 Check out Why We Do What We Do Episode 100 1:00:15 Topic Change - Self-Management, Mindfulness, and Meditation 1:05:00 "Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst" by Robert Sapolski 1:05:05 "Buddha's Brain: The Practical Neuroscience of Happiness, Love & Wisdom" by Rick Hanson, Alan Jones, and Richard Mendius 1:11:05 "Making Sense of Spirituality" by Steven Hayes 1:13:10 Topic Change - Coming Up: ABAI Practical Functional Analysis Symposium 1:15:25 Check out "IISCA Hanley Fisher Debate" 1:15:35 Check out Iwata's "Functional Analysis of Problem Behavior" 1:16:35 Topic Change - The importance of controversial conversations 1:21:25 Check out - Self-Care & Behavior Analysis (w/ Shane Spiker) --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

0:02:08 Topic - Merrill and his background 0:03:35 Topic Change - "Professionalism" and "Ethical Bullying" 0:09:49 Check Out: The disabled children locked up in cages By Chloe Hadjimatheou BBC World Service 0:10:33 Topic Change - Punishment Contingencies and "Pisser-Offer" Contingencies 0:14:20 Topic Change - Ethics and Levels of Right and Wrong 0:17:25 Check Out: Our Episode on Narrative 0:21:20 Topic Change - Rule-Governed Behavior and Automatic Thinking in Professionalism 0:25:50 Topic Change - Doctoral Programs 0:26:36 Topic Change - Addressing Listener's Questions 0:27:20 Listener Topic - "A Good Look for the Field" 0:30:05 Listener Topic - The Skinner Box Video 0:32:40 Listener Topic - Personal Aversion and Organizational and Cultural Factors 0:43:00 Topic Change - Ethical Guidelines for BCBAs and Other Fields 0:56:30 Check Out: Signs of Damage by Jack Michael 0:59:20 Check Out: Adventures In Special Education: A Practitioner's Guidebook to Understanding and Treating Problem Behaviors in Schools By Merrill Winston 1:02:15 Topic Change - Joining the Conversation (on Social Media) and Advice on Speaking Up 1:02:25 Check Out: Confessions of a Behavior Analyst Group on Facebook 1:15:35 Coming Soon! Live Q&A with Ryan, Dimitri, and Merril (GET NOTIFICATIONS!) --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

What to Expect In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri talk about some of their perspectives on how narratives and science mesh, with an ending on some self-management practices.  Remember you can call in, ask questions, or provide your own commentary. All you have to do is download the free anchor app and call in: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange Key Timestamps 0:45 Ryan's welcome message begins 2:07 Dimitri chimes in for first time 8:42 Introduce Book "Houston We Have a Narrative" by Randy Olsen  13:48 Introduce Logic Book "Beginning Logic" by E. J. Lemon  15:18 Ryan begins to point out examples of narrative to listeners 17:08 Dimitri explains what he thinks Narrative is about  21:48 Ryan explains grad school perception  24:53     Golddiamond Blue Books brief spin-off  34:28 Talk about experience of going to conferences, cost, and networking 39:13 Started talking about research, academia, and entrepeneurship  45:55 Discuss David Goggins (Check out his Book) 52:58     Quantifiedself.com mentioned 57:40    Discussion around Self-Management Routines is Introduced 1:05:10 Mentioned book "Steal Like an Artist" by Austin Kleon  1:08:39 Ryan mentions feeling inspired to make a video about self-management  1:15:28 Gary Vee's "5 Minute Plea to Do" Video Mentioned 1:17:45 Book by Viktor Frankl "Man's Search for Meaning" introduced  1:24:44 Introduce "Let Me Hear Your Voice" by Catherine Maurice 1:25:30 Brief pause then summary of feelings of the episode 1:25:56 Discussion about plans, Ryan going to see Randy Olsen, workshops 1:26:35 Introduce "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" by Joseph Campbell  1:26:59 Ryan chimes in with Wrap Up (comment, like, review, etc.) 1:27:43 Fun Fact and Patreon 1:29:35 Disclaimer Read 1:30:15 Sign-Off --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

Support and Advertisement: https://www.patreon.com/thedailyba Call-In: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange #002 - Do Behavior Analysts Deserve to Branch Outisde Autism? This week we welcome on Miranda Marie Drake to talk about our history of autism treatment and whether our profession "deserves" to branch outside autism. Links for Today: TCE on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecontroversialexchange/ TCE on Twitter: https://twitter.com/controversialex He Will Not Divide Us Capture the Flag: https://youtu.be/W6uGP8hHwrQ He Will Not Divide Us Capture the Flag: https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/5ykwc3/shia_labeouf_hides_a_hewillnotdivideus_flag_in/ Foxx R. M. (1996). Translating the covenant: The behavior analyst as ambassador and translator. The Behavior analyst, 19(2), 147-61.: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2733621/ Morris Email on Teaching Behavior Analysis Listserv re Principles of Behavior: https://listserv.uhd.edu/scripts/wa-uhdedu.exe?A2=ind1801&L=TBA-L&P=R169094 Critchfield, Thomas & J. Doepke, Karla & Epting, L & Becirevic, Amel & Reed, Derek & Fienup, Daniel & L. Kremsreiter, Jamie & L. Ecott, Cheryl. (2017). Normative Emotional Responses to Behavior Analysis Jargon or How Not to Use Words to Win Friends and Influence People. Behavior Analysis in Practice. 10. 97-106. 10.1007/s40617-016-0161-9.: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28630814 Becirevic, Amel & Critchfield, Thomas & Reed, Derek. (2016). On the Social Acceptability of Behavior-Analytic Terms: Crowdsourced Comparisons of Lay and Technical Language. The Behavior Analyst. 39. 10.1007/s40614-016-0067-4.: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303712104_On_the_Social_Acceptability_of_Behavior-Analytic_Terms_Crowdsourced_Comparisons_of_Lay_and_Technical_Language Special Thanks: Miranda Marie Drake for submitting the idea and hopping on the show! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

#001- Standardization & Private Equity in Behavior Analysis. In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Rick Kubina, Precision Teaching and ABA master to talk about Standardization in Science and Private Equity in ABA.  Catch us on Twitter @controversialex or Instagram @thecontroversialexchange and make sure to call in with your thoughts along the way! We're replying to everyone that calls in the first week after release! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

RYANO and Dimitri explore the boundaries of the podcast, share their personal story with you, and lay the foundation for what's to come. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message