Two Women Chatting

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by dynamic duo Marie Thom and Yvonne Vincent for a witty, heartfelt conversation about navigating midlife with confidence, creativity, and community. From finding their voices through writing to embracing ageing with a sense of humour, Marie and Yvonne share how life after 40 can be the most empowering chapter yet.They also introduce their exciting new podcast, Hear Me Roar, which celebrates the midlife journeys of both women and men - breaking down stereotypes and sparking conversations about confidence, body image and wellness. Whether it's publishing a book, transforming your health, or simply learning to laugh at the chaos; this episode is a joyful reminder that it's never too late to rewrite your story.Key Insights:

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle celebrates the 100th episode with none other than Olympic legend and advocate Dame Kelly Holmes in a powerful and deeply personal conversation. From winning double gold to becoming a fearless voice for LGBTQ+ rights and women's health, Kelly shares her journey of transformation with honesty and passion.Marking this special milestone episode, Kelly reflects on the ups and downs of life after sport and military service, the power of vulnerability and why she founded The Athena Effect - a new initiative helping women rediscover their confidence, purpose and strength. Whether you're navigating personal change or simply love hearing from inspiring women, this episode will leave you feeling seen, supported and stronger.Key Insights:

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes pop icon and powerhouse woman Sinitta for an inspiring and deeply personal conversation. Sinitta opens up about her early career, her longtime friendship with Simon Cowell, the highs and lows of fame, and how she's now using her platform to empower other women.From her early years shaped by a showbiz childhood to founding Sin's Angels, a collective for women rediscovering their strength, Sinitta shares what it means to find your voice, create space for others, and thrive on your own terms. Whether you're a fan of 80s pop or passionate about women supporting women, this is an episode that celebrates strength, reinvention and sisterhood.Key Insights:

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle is recording on location from the Pinecraft Inn in Sarasota, Florida with special guest Kendra Cross, who offers a heartfelt window into the Amish and Mennonite way of life. Raised in these communities, Kendra shares her personal story of multigenerational wisdom, strong women, and cultural connection.Kendra speaks candidly about growing up in a male-dominated culture, the misconceptions outsiders often have, and the ways in which community, storytelling, and tradition shape Amish life. With honesty and clarity, she explores what it means to honour your roots while helping others understand a world that often feels hidden.Key Insights:

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes actress and advocate Tamzin Outhwaite for a heartfelt and empowering conversation about navigating midlife, finding strength in sisterhood, and building community through shared experience. From the highs of her acting career to the deeply personal challenges of grief, menopause, and hormonal shifts, Tamzin opens up with warmth, honesty, and humour.Have you ever felt like you're juggling too much, or that your female friendships offer more fulfilment than romance? Tamzin shares how her platonic bonds have become her emotional foundation and how her initiative We Free Women is helping others find that same strength and connection. Whether you're approaching midlife or deep in the thick of it, this episode is a reminder that you're not alone—and that community can be the most powerful medicine of all.Key Insights:

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with Becky Holmes to uncover the dark yet strangely humorous world of romance fraud. From fake online lovers to AI-powered scams, Becky shares her journey from posting on Twitter to publishing a book that cleverly blends humour with insight on this serious issue.Have you ever wondered how scammers manipulate emotions, why victims get trapped, or how AI is changing the game? This episode dives deep into the psychological tricks scammers use, the red flags to watch out for, and the gender bias in how society views fraud victims. Plus, Becky explains how humour can be a powerful tool in tackling tough topics. Whether you're a seasoned online dater or just scam-curious, this conversation is packed with insights to help you stay informed and protected.Key Insights:

This week on Two Women Chatting, we're exploring the fascinating world of colour psychology with expert Anita Feron Clark. Have you ever noticed how wearing a particular shade can lift your mood or make you feel more confident? Anita breaks down the science behind colour, its emotional impact, and how midlife women can harness it to enhance well-being, self-care and personal style. Whether you're drawn to neutrals or love a bold pop of colour, this conversation will change the way you see your wardrobe - and yourself.Key Insights:

Welcome back to a brand-new season of Two Women Chatting! We're opening this season with a fascinating conversation with Dame Stella Rimington, the first female Director General of MI5, whose career spans real-world espionage and gripping spy fiction. From classified files to bestselling thrillers, she's got stories that would make Bond jealous!. She takes us behind the scenes of intelligence work, the challenges of being a woman in a male-dominated field, and the surprising realities of spy life versus fiction.Key Insights:

Hello, and welcome back to another exciting season of Two Women Chatting with me, Michelle Ford. I'll be diving deep into the heart of midlife topics that truly matter. Whether you're breezing through your early 40s or hitting those fabulous 50s, this season is packed full of engaging discussions that will empower, uplift, inspire, and entertain.Join me as I chat with an amazing array of guests—think celebrities, experts, actors, authors, campaigners, and yes, even a couple of distinguished Dames! I've got such an incredible lineup this season that you won't want to miss a single episode.I'll be covering a variety of captivating topics. Have you ever wondered about the hidden dangers of romance scams? I'm chatting to Becky Holmes, author of ‘Keanu Reeves is NOT in love with you. We'll be chatting about how to spot the scams and the red flags. Ever been curious about what it's like to grow up Amish? I'll sit down with someone who's lived that experience and discuss the contrasts of faith, community, and identity.I'll also be delving into the critical topic of bone health—an area that gains importance as we age— and I'll be kicking off the new season with Dame Stella Rimington, the Queen of Spies herself, - plus I've got a fabulous guest who will be a special guest for my 100th episode! Any guesses on who it might be? She's an absolutely the ‘gold-standard' in her field!And for those looking to enhance their confidence, we'll explore the intriguing world of colour psychology with Anita Feron Clark—discover how the colours we wear can profoundly impact our mood and self-esteem.Throughout the season, I'll also be shining a light on women who truly support women. From community builders to inspiring leaders, we'll celebrate the shared strength and resilience we find in each other when we walk the walk, not just talk the talk.You can listen to Two Women Chatting wherever you get your podcasts—whether you prefer Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or a different platform, I'm right there with you! And don't forget to check out twowomenchatting.com to sign up for my newsletter with extra content. I'm over on instagram at michelleford_twc for behind the scenes and topical midlife content.So, buckle up for a fantastic season filled with insightful conversations and intriguing guests. I can't wait to share this journey with you. Stay tuned, and let's chat about life, love, and all things midlife!Until next time, take care, keep shining, and remember, we're halfway through, not halfway done! New season starts 25 March 2025! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this festive episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes back Hannah Bartlett from Jolly Festive for another holiday season! Past Christmas episodes with Hannah have been among our most downloaded to date, so she's back by popular demand to sprinkle more holiday cheer. Together, they dive into practical tips for making your money go further, taking care of yourself during the busy season, and embracing fun, sustainable ways to reuse Christmas decor and cards. Hannah also shares advice on staying safe from scams during the holidays. Finally, the episode wraps up with a special trip down memory lane, revisiting the best moments from previous Christmas specials.Key Takeaways:

In this transformative episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle speaks with breath work coach Caroline Boyle, exploring the profound impact of breath work on wellness, mental health, and emotional resilience. Caroline shares her personal journey with breath work, especially its supportive role during her battle with breast cancer and the loss of her father. Together, they uncover the science and benefits behind conscious breathing, including its effectiveness for managing stress, enhancing athletic performance, supporting respiratory health, and even facilitating emotional release. Caroline offers practical techniques for integrating breath work into daily life, making it accessible for everyone looking to deepen their well-being and emotional healing.Key Takeaways:

In this insightful episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by Clare Jefferies, owner of four Home Instead franchises, who opens up about her journey into elder care and shares her experiences of caring for ageing parents. Clare emphasises the need for compassionate, person-centred care and offers practical advice on navigating the complexities of the ageing process. The conversation explores proactive approaches to caregiving, from creating safe home environments to discussing sensitive topics like power of attorney and incontinence support. Clare also shares tips on evaluating care homes, seeking help from social services, and the importance of self-care for caregivers. Together, Michelle and Clare tackle the emotional challenges of caregiving, offering insights to empower listeners in their own journeys with ageing loved ones.Key Takeaways:

In this inspiring episode, Dame Prue Leith joins Michelle to share her insights on embracing colour and confidence in midlife, encouraging listeners to experiment with their personal style as a means of self-expression. Prue discusses her philosophy that fashion should be fun and that age should never limit our choices. The conversation then moves to a deeply personal topic: assisted dying. Prue, an advocate for the right to a dignified death, shares her perspective on why this choice should be available and respected. She also introduces her latest cookbook, Life's Too Short to Stuff a Mushroom, which focuses on simple, enjoyable recipes designed to make cooking accessible for everyone. Key Takeaways:

In this inspiring episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with wellness advocate and fitness expert Kate Rowe-Ham for a deep dive into the complex journey of menopause and future proofing our health. Kate shares her insights on how strength training, mindful nutrition and taking charge of personal well-being can transform this life stage. The conversation emphasises the power of health ownership, body confidence, and viewing menopause as a time of growth rather than limitation. Kate and Michelle also bond over their experiences with late ADHD diagnoses, sharing how understanding and embracing their diagnoses has brought a new perspective to midlife.Key Takeaways:

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with Susan Saunders, a renowned brain health coach, to discuss the vital topic of brain health for women over 50. Susan shares her deeply personal journey of caring for her mother with dementia, which inspired her to dive into research on reducing her own risk and helping others do the same. With her expertise, she breaks down the steps we can take to prioritise brain health and offers hope for a healthier future.Key Insights:

Michelle sits down with Jessica Buchanan, a former teacher working in Somalia who shares her harrowing experience of being kidnapped and held captive for 93 days. Jess recounts the moment she realised something was wrong and the events that led to her abduction. She vividly describes the conditions she endured during captivity, including sleeping outside in the desert and facing the constant threat of violence. Despite the challenges, Jess demonstrates remarkable resilience and finds solace in introspection and planning for the future.Key Insights:

In this enlightening episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by psychologist, author and wellbeing expert Suzy Reading to share her top tips for improving sleep and embracing the winter season. Suzy offers practical advice on how to prioritise self-care, create a sleep-friendly routine and even find joy in the colder, darker months. From yoga nidra to gut health, Suzy explains how these often-overlooked factors can make a world of difference in how we sleep and thrive.Key Insights:

In this heartwarming episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by ‘instagram poet' and author Donna Ashworth to explore the transformative power of poetry, vibrant colours and the bravery women show in everyday life, especially in midlife. Donna shares her personal journey from blogger to celebrated poet, discussing how creative expression can heal and uplift. She also treats listeners to a live reading of one of her powerful poems from new book Growing Brave, showcasing how poetry can connect and inspire women. Together, they dive into topics like embracing colour for a positive mindset, finding courage in daily choices and the importance of acceptance.Key Insights:

In this captivating episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with the beloved Coronation Street star Sue Cleaver to explore her deeply personal journey and her new book, A Work in Progress. Sue opens up about the complexities of her life, from being adopted and always feeling a bit different to her experiences of resilience, rebellion, and self-discovery. This episode is a heartfelt conversation about ageing positively, embracing who you are and finding joy in life's second act.Key Insights:

Michelle Ford is back with more inspiring chats, heartfelt stories, and laughter-filled moments in Season 8 of Two Women Chatting!Coming up, Michelle will be welcoming incredible guests, including Coronation Street star Sue Cleaver, who opens up about her new book A Work In Progress. Sue opens up about the complexities of her life, from being adopted (and her incredible story of finding her birth mother), always feeling a bit different, to her experiences of resilience, rebellion, and self-discovery. This episode is a heartfelt conversation about ageing positively, embracing who you are, and finding joy in life's second act - with behind-the-scenes stories, life lessons and what it's like to be part of such an iconic TV show. Michelle also sits down with the brilliant Donna Ashworth, whose new book Growing Brave encourages us to embrace our inner strength and courage through her poetry beloved by millions.Three clues to one of Michelle's celebrity guests: she loves chunky jewellery, wears fab bright colours and is a dab hand at a Victoria sponge. You'll have to wait for announcements to see who will be joining TWC to chat about visibility and confidence as we age. Follow on instagram @michelleford_twc or Facebook for an announcement very soon! But that's not all! Stay tuned as we explore important topics like brain health, caring for elderly parents, and strategies to improve our sleep. You won't want to miss these insightful conversations that could make a real difference in your life.And if you're in the mood for some adventure, Michelle shares a thrilling story about a pirate rescue that will keep you on the edge of your seat. It's a tale of bravery, resilience, and the power of the human spirit.Plus, she'll be discussing how to find the bright side of winter, the importance of adding strength training to our health routine to future proof our health with Kate Rowe-Ham, and the power of breathwork for overall well-being. These are topics that will empower you to live your best life.So, grab a cup of tea, find a cozy spot, and get ready to be inspired, enlightened, and entertained. Follow Two Women Chatting podcast on your smart speaker or any platform for conversations that will uplift your spirit and nourish your soul.Subscribe now so you don't miss a single moment of these engaging discussions.Thank you for tuning in, and remember, you are never alone in this journey of life. Thanks for being part of the TWC community! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the final episode of Season 7, Michelle sits down with Sara Davison, The Divorce Coach, to discuss the intricacies of navigating divorce in midlife. The conversation delves into the unique challenges faced by individuals during this stage of life and explores why divorce becomes more common, touching on factors such as empty nest syndrome and shifting priorities. Sara offers practical advice on finding a divorce lawyer, managing the cost of divorce, and understanding the different avenues available for ending a marriage.Key Insights:

In this episode, Michelle sits down with Jacynth Bassett, a leading pioneer and voice in the anti-ageism movement. Jacynth founded 'Ageism is Never in Style', a global consultancy, campaign, and community dedicated to addressing ageism in all its forms. Join them as they explore the impact of ageism on individuals of all ages and genders, and the intersectionality between ageism and sexism. Jacynth was behind viral campaigns #ILookMyAge #RemoveAntiFromAging viewed 40 million plus times on social media!Key Insights:

Do you feel the midlife droop setting in? In this episode, Michelle invites Jo Tuffrey, Pilates instructor and health professional, to discuss the physical and mental changes that occur during midlife. Jo shares her personal experience of going through early menopause and the challenges she faced. She also talks about her journey from being a PE teacher to becoming a Pilates instructor and the development of her online Pilates classes and Menopause Metamorphosis program, helping clients salvage strength and confidence in midlife.Key Insights:

Do you struggle to find five minutes a day to be calm? In this episode, Michelle sits down with Joanne Mallon, the author and life coach behind 'How to Find Calm in 5 Minutes'. Join them as they delve into the secrets of maintaining composure and finding peace in the midst of life's chaos.Key Insights:

In this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle and special guest Dawn Dines, founder of Stamp Out Spiking, tackle the serious issue of drink spiking, with a particular focus on its rise among midlife individuals. They explore personal accounts, including a powerful testimony from Michelle's daughter Jemima, who shares her traumatic spiking experience in Singapore. Together, they discuss the importance of awareness and legislative change to better protect victims.Key Insights:

In this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle and special guests James and Claire Davis, also known as the Midlife Mentors, explore the challenges and opportunities that come with fluctuating hormones in midlife, with particular reference to andropause and its impact on ageing men. Michelle questions why it is that previously easy going men become stubborn and sometimes downright irritable in midlife - more grumpy 'Victor Meldrew' (the fictional character from BBC's One Foot in the Grave) and less smooth and charming George Clooney!Together they delve into the importance of embracing ageing positively and taking proactive steps to enhance physical and mental well-being, while understanding each other on a deeper level. Why do so many men experience a midlife crisis? Is there such a thing as the male menopause?Key Insights:

In this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle and special guest Esther Stanhope, the Impact Guru, embark on an empowering journey of mastering midlife small talk and overcoming social anxieties. Esther shares her transformative journey of overcoming stage fright and building confidence in public speaking, emphasising the importance of authenticity and adding value to the audience.Key Insights:

In this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle and special guest Sarah Orecchia, founder of Unbeelievable Health, explore the fascinating world of bee products and their remarkable benefits for midlife women. Sarah shares her passion for bees and the various products they produce, delving into their incredible properties and uses.Key Insights:

Welcome back to Season 7 with Michelle Ford! This episode delves deep into the transformative power of manifesting and intentional living with Cherry Healey. Join Michelle and Cherry as they explore the highlights and key takeaways from their insightful conversation:*TW* DISORDERED EATING.Key Insights:

Kicking off Season 7 in organised style is the wonderful Dilly Carter from BBC's ‘Sort Your Life Out'. Though we bid farewell to co-host Liz at the end of last season, she joins us for one last interview with Michelle to unveil some of Dilly's top kept secrets to transforming spaces and bringing tranquillity into the home.Key Insights:

Can you believe it's Season 7 already? This podcast is like a Midlife Woman... only getting better with age! Thanks to all the Two Women Chatting listeners for tuning in every week, join us in raising a glass to yet another brand new season!As lovely Liz bids adieu to the podcast, Michelle takes to the mic solo; still bringing her cheery chat and inquisitive energy, she'll be inviting more inspiring women to share their wisdom and woes on various midlife topics. Tune in to hear from an extraordinary lineup featuring the likes of decluttering guru Dilly Carter and midlife manifestation expert Cherry Healy.Season 7 will delve even deeper into uncharted midlife territory, promising enlightening conversations and a brighter outlook for the future. While change is in the air, it's all about embracing new beginnings and evolving perspectives.Don't miss out! The first episode drops on May 7th, so if you haven't already, hit that subscribe button to join us for all the insightful discussions and uplifting moments on The Two Women Chatting Podcast! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join Michelle and Liz for a lively and candid conversation with Jenny Eclair, the comedic pioneer and author of acclaimed novels like 'Writing on the Wall' and 'Older and Wider'. In this episode, aptly titled 'Life After Menopause,' Jenny shares her anecdotes and insights on ageing, friendships, the entertainment industry, and the often hilarious, yet sometimes challenging journey of post-menopause.Key Insights:

Picture this: celebrating 50 illustrious years in showbiz and still effortlessly doing the splits on stage!? Join Liz and Michelle as they sit down with the legendary Bonnie Langford on the Two Women Chatting Podcast. From her recent role in 'Stephen Sondheim's Old Friends' to her return to the Tardis in the new Doctor Who series, Bonnie Langford shares her insights on staying vibrant and embracing new opportunities in midlife.Key Insights:

Join Liz and Michelle for an extraordinary episode of Two Women Chatting, celebrating the spirit of International Women's Day at Wentworth Club. This special compilation brings you the highlights from the event where women from all walks of life gathered to champion inclusion and solidarity.Key Insights:

Join Michelle and Liz for a riveting conversation with Janey McGill as she shares her extraordinary experience leading an expedition with two Omani women across the Empty Quarter, the world's largest sand desert. Janey reflects on the challenges faced, personal growth attained, and the bonds forged with her team. Through her journey, she overcame imposter syndrome, emphasised the importance of setting personal goals, and shattered societal expectations. Janey's film, "Arrowhead," captures the expedition's essence, promoting unity and breaking stereotypes. The conversation also explores the significance of appreciating surroundings, taking breaks, and prioritising self-care for overall well-being.Key Insights:

Ever wondered what it means to be a Queenager? Is midlife truly a time for rediscovery and empowerment? Join Michelle and Liz in conversation with Eleanor Mills, the founder of Noon, an online community dedicated to empowering women in midlife. In this episode, they delve into the unique challenges and triumphs faced by women over 50, exploring the need for a fresh narrative and media representation.

Ever found yourself wanting to start a new chapter in midlife? Have you got a book in you? Join Liz and Michelle in an eye-opening conversation with the incredible B.A. Paris, bestselling author of psychological thrillers, ‘Behind Closed Doors' and ‘The Guest' as she takes us through her inspiring journey of transitioning to a successful writing career in her 50s.Key Insights:

Ever wondered how to redefine intimacy and maintain a satisfying sex life in midlife? Join Liz and Michelle as they dive into the complexities of midlife sex with the brilliant Kate Moyle, a leading expert in psychosexual therapy. Together, they unravel the intricacies of sex beyond intercourse, the importance of communication and fun in long-term relationships, and navigating changes in desire and intimacy. Michelle, Liz, and Kate explore body confidence, managing menopause, using sex toys, and addressing issues like erectile dysfunction.Key Insights:

Join Michelle and Liz in a spirited conversation with Neens and dB from Rants and Big Pants, a dynamic space advocating for the representation and empowerment of midlife women. In this episode, they explore the origins of Rants and Big Pants, the impact of the menopause conversation, and the importance of normalising menopause experiences.Key Insights:

Join Liz and Michelle for an invigorating conversation with the incredible Sally Gunnell, Olympic gold medalist and wellbeing advocate, as she shares insights on optimizing health and wellbeing in the journey of aging. Sally delves into the importance of exercise, joint health, and muscle strength for maintaining an active and healthy lifestyle.Key Insights:

Join Liz and Michelle for a captivating conversation with Rosie Nixon, the illustrious editor at large of Hello Magazine, as she delves into the transformative power of kindness and its profound impact on mental health. In this illuminating episode, Rosie shares her inspiring journey advocating for kindness through the groundbreaking campaign she spearheaded at Hello! Magazine. Tune in as she emphasizes the crucial need to introduce a 'kindness quota' (KQ) and incorporate kindness teachings within school curriculums, shedding light on the profound benefits kindness brings to personal well-being.Key Insights:

Ever found yourself wondering where the line between 'you and me' truly lies? Is a people-pleaser just another word for being ‘nice'? Join Liz and Michelle as they unravel the intricate world of boundaries, opinions, and self-worth in mid-life with the incredible Michelle Elman, a renowned life coach and author. Michelle delves deep into the art of setting boundaries, challenging the belief that self-worth hinges on others' opinions, and revealing the power of embracing discomfort for personal growth.Key Insights:

Join Liz and Michelle in an eye-opening discussion with Jane Michell, the visionary founder of Jane Plan, as she sheds light on the alarming reality of obesity and the urgent need for systemic intervention and education. Jane dives deep into the critical understanding of BMI, highlighting the staggering health repercussions of obesity in the UK and explores the personal responsibilities and societal influences contributing to weight gain.Key Insights:

Back by popular demand, Liz and Michelle invite you to a merry conversation with the incredible Hannah Bartlett, the festive maestro from Jolly Festive! In this delightful episode, they dive into the joys of celebrating Christmas in midlife, providing insights and ideas of how to manage all aspects of the holiday, without the overwhelm. Discover the art of making the holiday season a time of joy, ease, and delight; from laying-low on the sugar highs to opting for eco-friendly options without losing an ounce of sparkle.Key Insights:

Laura Hamilton of A Place in the Sun joins Liz and Michelle to dish out travel inspiration. The bubbly TV host shares amazing anecdotes from her travels around the globe, tips on how to plan an affordable getaway, and key things to consider before buying a vacation home overseas. You'll be dreaming of far off destinations after tuning into this fun, upbeat episode full of wanderlust!  She also shares details of a new spin-off Channel 4 show. A Place in the Sun, What Happened Next will revisit families and couples as far back as 2007 who took the plunge and bought a property aboard.  KEY TAKEAWAYS Solo travel can open you up to meeting new people and forging great memories. Travel by train allows you to see the world in an eco-friendly way while soaking in beautiful scenery. Look for flight and hotel deals separately to find affordable trips without packaged deals. The pandemic has made remote work more flexible for people wanting to travel abroad for longer stints.  Consider nomadic visas - check the new blog for details. House swapping like in The Holiday movie could be an adventurous and cost-effective way to travel. BEST MOMENTS  "That is not what travel is about for me, it's about the experiences, the people, the sights, the sounds, the tastes." "That intergenerational trip, that is kind of marvellous, isn't it? Because, you know, you think when your adult kids are adults, the last thing they want to do is spend time with you."  "We met so many solo, female travellers, and I think it's not something that anyone should be fearful of, because you'd be surprised you meet a lot of people that are doing the same." If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic and many more at www.twowomenchatting.com. EPISODE RESOURCES  ABOUT THE HOSTS Liz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwcMichelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc CONTACT METHOD https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/ https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting This show was brought to you by Progressive Media

Liz and Michelle chat with Tracey Davies, a 50-year-old travel writer and journalist who recently stepped waaay outside her comfort zone to become a stand-up comedian. Tracey shares her journey from signing up for a beginners' comedy course to performing her first open mic night. She opens up about handling hecklers, bombing on stage and finding a supportive community on the comedy circuit. Tracey offers advice for anyone looking to be brave and try something completely new in midlife and her story shows it's never too late to follow a passion or goal. KEY TAKEAWAYS Turning 50 was the catalyst for Tracey to pursue stand-up comedy after interviewing comedians for work. She took a 10-week beginners course and despite finding it challenging, absolutely fell in love with stand-up. Tracey talks about the importance of making comedy personal and telling jokes only you can tell. She emphasises getting experience doing live gigs as that's where you really learn how to handle hecklers, pauses, and forgotten lines. She credits turning 50 with giving her a big confidence boost to feel like she can do anything. BEST MOMENTS  "I was honestly swaggering around like I was Joan Rivers thinking, oh my goodness, this is what I want to do now." "I think turning 50 has been such a big confidence boost. Suddenly, I do honestly, I feel like I can do anything." "Every time, I guarantee, I never ever regret going out and getting up on stage." If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at www.twowomenchatting.com. EPISODE RESOURCES  ABOUT THE HOSTLiz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.Liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwcMichelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc CONTACT METHOD https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/ https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting This show was brought to you by Progressive Media

Join Liz and Michelle as they chat with menopause advocate Emma Skeates about embracing the chaos of midlife. Emma shares her journey through a messy divorce and early surgical menopause while raising young children. She details how keeping her sense of humour helped her mental health and inspired her popular blog and book “Confessions of a Menopausal Mayhem Mother.” She recounts mortifying yet relatable stories and discusses how finding laughter in adversity led to a movie deal for her book.  KEY TAKEAWAYS  Emma started blogging to maintain her mental health after a difficult divorce and early surgical menopause - it became wildly popular by keeping things real amidst the curated lives on social media. She coined "CRAFT disease" as a humorous explanation when brain fog caused her to forget things - it stands for "Can't Remember A Flipping Thing." Emma handpicked British actress Amanda Abbington to play her in the film adaption, opting for a cosy, uplifting tone versus a polished Hollywood depiction. She believes finding laughter in adversity has helped her through many challenges, from divorce to grief over her mum's death.. Emma will speak at Pause Live! menopause event on 25 November - with Liz and Michelle also attending - offering a hilarious, unfiltered perspective on relationships and womanhood. BEST MOMENTS   "I'm the only woman in history who gained four and a half stone for her wedding." "I actually had my hysterectomy after I met him and he noticed a huge change in who I was because I'd always been this very vibrant, bouncy, lively, sort of very happy-go-lucky." "Whenever you find yourself in a situation where you are constantly forgetting something, or you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, or you feel, ah, there's a meeting, and I'm supposed to be there, and I'm actually there, C.R.A.F.T disease is absolutely imperative to use." If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at www.twowomenchatting.com. EPISODE RESOURCES  ABOUT THE HOSTLiz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwcMichelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc CONTACT METHOD https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/ https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting This show was brought to you by Progressive Media

This week Liz and Michelle dive into the important topic of gut health.  Fun fact that this week's guest, Pauline Cox, functional nutritionist shared with us: your gut microbiome can be positively affected by stroking a pet, going for a walk, gardening or even kissing your partner! How about that for a biohack?!   The gut microbiome impacts nearly every aspect of health from hormonal balance to brain fog. Pauline shares simple, practical tips like going for a morning walk, adding fermented foods like sauerkraut to your diet, and "Marie Kondo-ing" your fridge. The conversation covers the links between gut health and skin care, weight management, oestrogen levels, and more. KEY TAKEAWAYS Gut health impacts nearly every aspect of wellbeing including hormones, digestion, sleep, skin, and brain function. The gut microbiome is like a "fingerprint" - partly genetic but also influenced by diet, environment, stress levels, etc. Oestrogen balance is tied to gut health. Certain gut bacteria can reabsorb used oestrogen back into the body instead of allowing the liver to remove it. Regularity of bowel movements helps eliminate excess oestrogen. The gut and brain are constantly communicating via the vagus nerve 'super highway'. An unhealthy gut microbiome can lead to ongoing food cravings as the brain seeks the nutrients it needs whilst a healthy gut helps you feel satiated. Simple daily habits like walking, gardening, petting your dog, or kissing your partner can beneficially diversify your gut microbiome. Soil and animals bring good bacteria. Start by adding good things like fermented foods rather than eliminating everything at once. Sauerkraut, kimchi, kefir, beetroot, and kombucha feed gut bacteria. Have at least one good bowel movement per day. Lack of magnesium and fibre or sluggish bile production can cause constipation. Going for a morning walk boosts serotonin, helps with food choices, energises you, and primes digestive processes for the day. Pauline's top 3 basic supplements are magnesium, vitamin D, and omega 3s. Target specific issues like sleep or liver health once those bases are covered.  BEST MOMENTS  "Your gut and your brain talk to each other all the time via a nerve that's a super, superhighway, and the pathway, the conversation goes both ways." "When you're eating food, let's say your omega 3 rich foods like oily fish and your protein rich foods like eggs, the nerve from your brain to your gut is sensing all the time what you're eating and is the brain getting what it needs to be optimal?" "By going for a walk first thing in the morning, you're going to feel more energised. You're going to feel happier because of the levels of serotonin and dopamine within your body. Dopamine is our motivation hormone."  "I would say go for a walk and then prepare. Really do a bit of a detox in your fridge. Go all Marie Kondo on your fridge and look at the things that are in there and think, do I really need that in there? Because it's just going to be a temptation to me." "Making small steps and simple changes rather than just thinking I'm going to stick a probiotic in and keep eating the foods I'm eating. We're much better off looking at whole foods first." If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic in our midlife library at www.twowomenchatting.com. EPISODE RESOURCES  Pauline's Instagram @paulinejcox Pauline's book Hungry Woman - and her store Sow & Arrow ABOUT THE HOSTLiz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.Liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwcMichelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc CONTACT METHOD https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/ https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting This show was brought to you by Progressive Media

Liz and Michelle chat with Olympian triple jumper turned motivational speaker Michelle Robinson about caring for ageing parents while juggling our own midlife changes. Michelle shares her emotional journey caring for her vivacious but ailing mother, from cancer to losing mobility. She offers insight on managing expectations, reframing how we talk about "caring", being honest about needing support and striving for small progress each day. Michelle reminds us that together we are stronger, and that while life is not perfect, we can take small steps to cut ourselves some slack! KEY TAKEAWAYS Reframe "caring for" ageing parents as "supporting" and "being there for" them to acknowledge their autonomy. Manage expectations of yourself and others - you can't do it all perfectly all the time. Celebrate small wins. Be authentic and ask for support when you need it - from family, friends, or organisations like Age UK. You don't have to tackle it alone. Strive to be 1% better than yesterday - focus on small improvements to move forward. Perfection doesn't exist. Schedule time for your own needs like solitary walks, coffee with friends, and activities that spark joy. Don't neglect self-care. This stage won't last forever. Have empathy for stressed siblings, and don't take reactions personally. Keep communication open. HRT can help relieve the stress of the menopause transition. Seek medical advice about whether it's right for you. Supporting blog and resources available from our midlife library   BEST MOMENTS  "I want to be the real model. I don't want them to go out there looking for role models." "Together we are definitely stronger. If there's anything I can do to help people know - be authentic. Sometimes real life is hard work." "You can have it all, but not all at the same time. Manage your expectations - that is not realistic." "I often say, this is layered, it's not going to last forever. So try not to make it fractious." "Asking 'How can I support you?' opens communication without being patronising." "A different walk than just dog walking. That walk is for the joy of it." If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at www.twowomenchatting.com. EPISODE RESOURCES  ABOUT THE HOSTLiz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.Liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwcMichelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!michellef@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc CONTACT METHOD https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/ https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting    This show was brought to you by Progressive Media

Liz and Michelle are joined by international dating expert, Sami Wunder in this episode to invite women to shift their mindset around dating and start putting themselves first. Sami talks about the importance of authenticity and self-esteem in dating, including how to create superior outcomes for yourself and delivers some unexpected concepts and truths about dating in the modern world. Sami also gives top tips for dating in midlife including how to tackle online dating and how to identify red flags! Midlife library blog on dating - click here KEY TAKEAWAYS Create personal clarity, ask yourself why you want to date again and what you expect to get from it. It doesn't always shave to be serious. In mid-life, you come to the wisdom that this is your life, and you need to live it on your own terms. Hiring a coach, therapist or expert is very helpful if you want to start putting yourself first and working your way through any difficult past relationship issues. We have to let go of the limiting belief that men are only interested in our bodies, it's not true. Dating confidently is about how you feel about yourself, not getting validation from others. We must learn to date as our authentic selves, be honest about who we are and what we want, be the best version of ourselves, and trust that the right people will come. When creating an online profile, put yourself in your potential partners' shoes, how can you make yourself stand out? Be specific and unique about yourself. Give a sense of who you are as a person. Both men and women have masculine and feminine energy. When dating, women need to harness and exude their feminine energy. Rotational dating is putting the power back in the woman's hand, giving them choices and options and ultimately, power.  Take your time filtering and evaluating in early dating, you don't have to say yes to exclusivity to anyone. Honour yourself, your time and what you want in dating. Go at the pace that feels tight for you and you will attract far superior outcomes. If a partner isn't initiating or making an effort, then you will be doing this with them for the rest of your life. Shop around, be authentic, find your USP and use that and don't undervalue the role of research in yourself and dating. BEST MOMENTS  “We are more than our bodies” “Offer yourself compassion” “It's not about how your body looks, it's about how you feel about yourself” “We're better able to not be judged in middle life than when we were younger” “Dating is all about showing up as your authentic self” “Be your best self and let them come to you” “You attract the opposite energy”  “It's a very man-serving concept, exclusivity” “Go back to old fashioned values…hold out like our mothers did” “You don't owe anybody sex” If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at www.twowomenchatting.com. EPISODE RESOURCES  sammiwunder.com Instagram @samiwundercoach ABOUT THE HOSTLiz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.Liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwcMichelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc CONTACT METHOD https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/ https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting This show was brought to you by Progressive Media

Liz and Michelle tackle the taboo topic of preparing for the worst, should you find yourself suddenly single through divorce or the death of a partner. They chat with consumer journalist and ITV This Morning's Consumer Editor, Alice Beer, about the uncomfortable but necessary conversations couples should have regarding wills, finances, accounts and more. Alice provides tons of practical advice on ensuring you and your family are looked after, from making a list of all accounts to having a capable friend by your side as you make those difficult calls. This episode will get you motivated to empower yourself with financial knowledge and protect your future, no matter what comes your way.  Midlife library blog from Alice available here KEY TAKEAWAYS  Not being married means you have zero rights if your partner dies without a will, their assets won't automatically go to you. Express your wishes clearly in a will about who inherits what, and name an executor who understands your relationship. Go through all accounts - mortgage, loans, pensions, insurance etc - and put both partner's names on everything possible. Appoint your most capable, level-headed friend to help you make necessary calls if you're suddenly single. Use official resources like citizens advice to guide you, not just any google result. Have set responses ready for any requests for money from relatives after a bereavement. BEST MOMENTS  "If you're not married to your partner, you absolutely will live in a society where you have no rights."  "Empowerment is so much better than denial. Be really brave about saying, can we just set aside Saturday morning with coffee rather than wine, and go through everything."  "I know clever, sassy women who suddenly, they know they've got money in the bank somewhere, cannot pay the mortgage a month after their husband has died. And that's ridiculous." "Financial wolves will prey on widows...you could fall into scam traps." "Have a set phrase, like 'Thank you so much. It's not convenient for me to talk right now.'" If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, and review it on your podcast platform. We read every email sent to us at twowomenchatting@gmail.com so please get in touch! Check out our supporting blogs on this topic at www.twowomenchatting.com. EPISODE RESOURCES  ABOUT THE HOSTLiz Copping is a networking pro & event consultant, leaping out of her comfort zone to co-host this podcast.Liz@twowomenchatting.com Insta @lizcoppingtwcMichelle Ford is a professional voice actor and empty nester pressing reset, enjoying a new career in podcasting!michelle@twowomenchatting.com Insta @michellefordtwc CONTACT METHOD https://www.instagram.com/twowomenchatting/ https://twitter.com/ChattingTwo https://www.facebook.com/twowomenchatting This show was brought to you by Progressive Media