Podcasts about multiplying

In this podcast, Tavershima Ayede explains why high website traffic doesn't always equal high sales. He argues that if your website's message is confusing or targets the wrong people, getting more visitors is a waste of money—after all, 1,000 visitors multiplied by a 0% conversion rate is still zero.The Key Takeaways * Quality over Quantity: It's better to have 10 interested buyers than 1,000 random visitors. * Fix the Foundation: Before spending money on ads or SEO, make sure your website actually convinces people to buy (the sales funnel). * Use specific messaging to attract the right audience rather than trying to appeal to everyone.The Bottom Line: If your revenue is stuck, the problem might not be a lack of visitors; it might be misaligned marketing. Tavershima suggests diagnosing your communication style first to ensure your message actually resonates with your target audience.

In this episode of Industry Iowa, host Steven C. Wilson (CIRAS/Iowa State University) sits down with Bill Schmarzo for a candid pre-event conversation tied to the 5th Annual Ivy Sales Innovation Summit (Bill's closing keynote on April 7). Together, they explore why the real power of AI isn't replacement—it's amplifying human domain expertise and accelerating professional growth.Schmarzo breaks down a practical three-phase professional development arc (rookie → mastery → elevating the discipline) and explains how AI can support each stage when leaders adopt an “AND mentality”—AI and people, not AI or people. Along the way, they touch on the risk of losing “tribal knowledge” when organizations treat people as interchangeable, and they tee up a fun metaphor: building your own ethical “AI Yoda” to guide better decisions in context.

Jeff Latture serves as Executive Vice President at Barnhart Crane and Rigging and as chairman of Strategic Resource Group, but his journey into collaborative generosity began long before boardrooms and grant strategies. Growing up in Arkansas, he watched his parents come to genuine faith, yet it was later in Dallas through a vibrant church community and a pivotal sermon from Bill Bright, that his faith became personal. A simple conversation with his future wife about missions planted an early vision: if they could not go, perhaps they could send. God reshaped that vision when He closed the door to starting their own business and instead led Jeff to Barnhart, a company committed to investing its profits in the Great Commission. Over three decades, Jeff has helped cultivate GROVE, Barnhart's internal collaborative giving team, and advance a mutual fund model of ministry through the Strategic Resource Group. He has learned that wise generosity requires shared mission, deep relationships, patient trust, and a willingness to surrender control. Collaborative structures, clear strategy, and long-term partnerships have multiplied Kingdom impact across frontier regions. This conversation offers a thoughtful vision for pursuing obedience, discernment, and deeper partnership in your own stewardship journey. Major Topics Include: Give collaboratively, not independently Build trust through long-term relationships Shifting from transactions to partnerships Organize giving around focused teams Leveraging business wisdom for Kingdom impact Investing in ministry capacity and health How to balance metrics with Spirit-led discernment Surrendering control in stewardship QUOTES TO REMEMBER “What I really wanted in starting a business was to be in control. And God wasn't going to let me have that.” “He said, I'll let you serve the ones in control, but I'm not going to let you be the ultimate steward.” “We would never have thought ever that we would have the viewpoint that we have for what God's doing around the world. But it just started one relationship and one gift at a time.” “Giving together is way better than trying to do it on your own.” “You just learn faster in a group than you can by yourself.” “It's our secret sauce is doing things together and getting the thinking of many people pointing the same direction.” “A good collaborative will cost you something. You have to give up some rights for a collaborative to work.” “Knowing the heart of the leader is the most important thing.” “It's very relational. We like to measure things. We're a bunch of engineers. But it's really the relationships that drive us.” “If we'll go to God first and really lean in to listening to what Scripture says and what the Holy Spirit is saying before we make those funding decisions, somehow it comes out with a better result.” “My personal experience over 30 years, He will do far more than you can ever imagine with the things that He's given you.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW Alan Barnhart (see our past interview here) When Helping Hurts (see our interview with coauthor Brian Fikkert) Mission Increase Strategic Resource Group The India Alliance IllumiNations Bible Translation Alliance (see our interview with Todd Peterson or John Chesnut) MacLellan Foundation (see our interview with Director of Generosity, John Cortines) Mergon Doug Cobb, Founder of The Finishing Fund (see our past interview here) Achieve Alliance BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW Matthew 28:19–20 | The Great Commission “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Esther 4:14 | For Such a Time as This “For if you keep silent at this time, relief and deliverance will rise for the Jews from another place, but you and your father's house will perish. And who knows whether you have not come to the kingdom for such a time as this?” TAKE A STEP DEEPER On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime.  But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What's that next step look like for me?” That's exactly why we've launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity.  Applied Generosity helps make sense of the hundreds of stories we've shared on the Finish Line Podcast to help you find that best next step. If you've been inspired by these stories and want to take things to the next level, check out Applied Generosity anywhere you listen to podcasts or at appliedgenerosity.com.

2026 - 0301 - Multiplying Disciples

How do we view our most precious resource? Do we squander it, or do we steward and multiply it? We've been placed in this exact moment in history for a purpose.Notes for this sermon: https://lifechurchww.cls.co/XZXcWebsite | https://lifechurchww.comFacebook | https://facebook.com/lifechurchwwInstagram | https://instagram.com/lifechurchwwVida Music | https://vidamsc.com

Giving power to government by consent; Cain and Abel; Altars; Abraham's police action; Human resources; World government police; Social contract/covenant; Delegating your power to government; Organized militia; Bearing Arms; Doing right in our own eyes; Getting involved; Authority of police; Courts; Common Law?; Constitutional changes; Old Testament patterns; Private interpretation; Electing kings; Imperium and Potestas; Getting back your police powers; Right to revolt?; Deut 17:14; God's wisdom; Brothers?; Multiplying horses?; Bondage of Egypt; Hum-Vs? FDR as Pharaoh; Social Security Act/Number; Government dependence; Changing your relationship with government; Benefits at taxpayers' expense; Sureties for debt; v17 - multiplying wives; Solomon's broken rules; Rebuilding the Temple?; Covenanting with Caesar?; Accumulating gold and silver; Corruption and immorality; Doing what Christ said; Putting your own house in order; Kings and priests; Pontius Pilate - Procurator of Rome; Jurisdiction; Preparing to be a free society; Is Jesus your king?; Caesar stories; Government of, for and by the people; "Hue and Cry"; Asylum; Corruption by power; Choosing a king; Taking back your responsibilities; Temple police?; Eating at their tables = giving consent; Seeing the whole truth; Join us.

Influence isn't just for people with titles or huge platforms — it's something God has given to each of us. In this series, we'll see how ordinary people like Barnabas, Joseph, Esther, and Elijah used their influence to make an eternal impact.Influence is about presence, courage, encouragement, and legacy. God has positioned you right where you are for such a time as this. You don't need a stage to make a difference — you just need to use what God has placed in your hands to impact others for Christ.

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Acts 2:42-47 Mike Mitchener

Mike reveals why making disciples doesn't have to be intimidating when we realise that we sow the seed of God's word into people's hearts but it is the Holy Spirit that causes growth.

“We're tackling the crisis of food insecurity, but we're also tackling this epidemic of disconnection. And we're building bridges and building connections that people are just craving right now.” –Dan ZaudererWhat if joy fed more than just the soul? What if it could fill a parking lot with a hundred volunteers, rescue pallets of unpurchased food, and drive it city-wide to families in need?It's no fantasy. In the Bronx and Greater New York City, it's happening.For Grassroots Grocery founder Dan Zauderer, what started as a single community refrigerator has exploded into a celebration of neighbors helping neighbors, full of genuine fun, memories shared, and countless families fed.What he's found? The joy just keeps on growing.In this episode, Dan shares:The serendipitous makings of Grassroots Grocery and its growth from a single community refrigerator to a thriving nonprofitWhy he thinks joy and connection are the reason for his volunteer waitlistHow he uses technology to create a more human experienceWhat he's learning about boundaries and growth in mutual aid leadershipFind links to resources mentioned and key takeaways in the show notes for this episode: https://www.futurenonprofit.com/dan-zauderer/*This episode includes a clip from an interview originally aired on the TODAY Show. That content is the property of NBCUniversal Media, LLC and is used here for informational purposes only. For the full segment, click here.

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ The episode features Carl and Alicia Williamson from Harding University discussing a training session on disciple-making called 'Multiplying Disciples on College Campuses and Beyond.' This session is on useful disciple-making tools accompanied by a Q&A. 

In this episode, Roy continues sharing from our time together about starting apostolic teams and navigating the real challenges of collaboration. Starting Apostolic Teams This builds on Roy's previous insights about forming teams made up of different roles — including movement catalysers, DMM strategists, prayer mobilisers, learning designers, coaching cultivators, apostolic pioneers, and disciple-makers. He describes these as different “swim lanes” — distinct expressions of gifting that allow people to run in their grace and calling while contributing to a shared mission. Roy observes that many people from Christian backgrounds tend to be permission-seeking, whereas harvest-field people often are not. As leaders, we need to intentionally give churched believers permission — again and again — to step into and express the gifting they carry in our contexts. Multiplying prayer  Roy then shares from his Kansas City context about cultivating replicating prayer: “It's not about the volume but the distinctiveness of prayer [that's focused on lostness].” – RoyRather than simply increasing activity, the focus is on prayer that is harvest-focused and easily reproducible. Collaboration Roy also explores how to build teams through meaningful collaboration. He references five conditions for collective impact drawn from research out of Stanford University: Common Agenda – A shared understanding of the problem and a shared vision for change.Shared Measurement for Success – One of the biggest challenges in Christianity, especially when we assume we are doing the same thing but measure differently.Mutually Reinforcing Activities – Training and mobilisation are difficult if they are not aligned with a common agenda and shared measures.Continuous Communication – Learning to communicate consistently, not just when we are face-to-face. Creating a “campfire” platform (online) where stories and resources can be shared.A Backbone Structure – A brand-light (or brand-bashful) organisation that exists to support and strengthen leaders rather than promote itself. Roy concludes: “We need to define who we are so we can defend who we are. But this allows us to collaborate more, not less… We can create tables for anybody to come. We can create tools that anybody can use. But when we create tracks for people to run on, they are very distinct.” – Roy Be Encouraged Be provoked and encouraged as you listen to this episode — and consider what it might look like to start apostolic teams and cultivate collaboration across your city, your nation, and even the nations.

A conversation with Rick about multiplying movements across two war zones in the Middle East.

Send a textWhat if real success isn't measured by scale alone, but by how deeply you serve the people you lead? In this episode, host Dionne Malush sits down with Dr. Tom DuFore for a powerful conversation on leadership, franchising, and the kind of growth that lasts. From building profitable systems to staying grounded through chaos, Tom shares how purpose-driven leadership and a focus on people can transform businesses and lives alike. This episode goes beyond tactics and dives into the mindset required to build something meaningful, resilient, and truly impactful.Together, Dionne and Tom explore hard-earned lessons from navigating adversity, leading through uncertainty, and choosing relationships over shortcuts in an increasingly automated world. You'll hear why franchising is not a get-rich-quick path, how greatness is a daily pursuit rooted in gratitude and grit, and why success multiplies when leaders commit to lifting others as they grow. If you're a business owner, leader, or entrepreneur searching for sustainable growth with heart, this conversation will challenge you to think bigger and lead better.Connect with Tom here:Website: https://bigskyfranchiseteam.com/LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tomduforeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/tomdufore/Support the showConnect with Dionne Malush Instagram: @dionnerealtyonepgh LinkedIN: /in/dionnemalush Website: www.dionnemalush.com Facebook: /dmalush LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/dionnemalush

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A sermon by John Zeigler entitled "The Multiplying Power of Jesus" from John 6:9

Ecclesiastes says there's “no gain under the sun,” yet calls your actual life—work, meals, relationships—“your lot” and “the gift of God.” This message explores how to stop chasing surplus, name both the favorites and “no‑thank‑you helpings” on your plate, and receive your real portion from God's hand. Then, like the boy with loaves and fish, you're invited to place that portion in Jesus' hands and watch how he takes, blesses, breaks, and multiplies it for joy and kingdom good.

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ The episode features Carl and Alicia Williamson from Harding University discussing a training session on disciple-making called 'Multiplying Disciples on College Campuses and Beyond.' This session is on big-picture strategies. Carl, a Bible professor, and Alicia, a Bible faculty member, share their experiences in church planting and working with emerging adults. They emphasize the role of prayer, accountability, vision, and expectation (PAVE) in fostering a disciple-making movement. They recount various personal stories and examples of how these principles have led to the multiplication of disciple-making groups among students, ultimately inspiring transformational faith journeys. The script also includes a practical component where participants are encouraged to pray and reflect on God's role in their disciple-making efforts.

In this episode, Drew Norton sales leader, entrepreneur, father of four, and founder of The Abundant Man shares a powerful story about identity, belief, and redefining success beyond money. After years of professional growth and financial stability, Drew realized something was off. While his career was thriving, other areas of life faith, family, and fitness were quietly falling behind. That realization sparked a personal transformation rooted not in willpower, but in changing the story he told himself. This conversation explores how identity shapes behavior, why belief changes outcomes faster than discipline, and how men can pursue success without sacrificing what matters most. Drew also opens up about navigating trauma, emotions, fatherhood, and leadership and how reframing hardship can turn pain into strength. You'll hear insights on: ·         Identity-based change vs. goal chasing ·         Why success without fulfillment still feels empty ·         The four pillars of an abundant life: Faith, Family, Fitness, Finance ·         Emotional awareness and masculinity ·         Leadership lessons that apply beyond business ·         How environment and community shape belief ·         Why time—not money—is the real constraint for entrepreneurs This episode is for men who want more alignment in their lives stronger relationships, better health, deeper purpose, and lasting success. Tune into the show now to experience the honest, freely shared wisdom! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theeverydaysalesleader/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theeverydaysalesleader/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@theeverydaysalesleader TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theeverydaysalesleader Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theeverydaysalesleader   - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dougbeitz/ - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dougbeitz/ - Website: https://buymeacoffee.com/dougbeitz - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6mQ258nugC3lyw3SpvYuoK?si=7cec409527d34438  - Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/intuitive-conversations-with-doug/id1593172364 - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-beitz-472a4b338/ - Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dougbeitz178

Matthew 7:21-27 Matthew 28:16-20   God loves us, but he doesn't always love everything we do. He disciplines us because he loves us, and by living according to his purpose, we become better for the people around us. Our goal is to fill God's kingdom, not to fill churches. So who are we trying to multiply here? • Seekers • Believers • Followers • Leaders • Churches   Crossroads – about heaven, earth, and the journey in between. Connect with us Crossroads Linktree: https://linktr.ee/CrossroadsFairOaks?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=29f93fab-45f2-4463-9a37-f4ad802326f8  

Send us a textIn this transformative episode of The Wealth Vibe Show, host Vinki Loomba dives deep with Dr. Ajay Goyal—a seasoned radiologist, visionary entrepreneur, and healthcare trailblazer. Together, they unpack how medical professionals can turn clinical practice into a high-performing wealth-building engine.Key Takeaways:The Business of Medicine: Dr. Goyal explains how owning your medical practice—along with the real estate it operates in—can create long-term equity, stability, and tax advantages.From Practitioner to Owner: Learn how Dr. Goyal scaled from one radiology clinic to founding Independent Healthcare Partners and a debt fund model aimed at transforming rural healthcare and physician ownership.Real Estate as a Wealth Lever: Discover why banks prefer physician-occupied buildings and how Dr. Goyal structured his deals to maximize equity and control.A Turnkey Investment Model: Dr. Goyal reveals how his firm identifies underserved communities, partners with local physicians, and uses a debt fund to offer short-term, high-yield investment opportunities—delivering returns of 10–16% annually.Impact + Income: This episode shows how investing in healthcare isn't just financially smart—it's a socially impactful move that improves access to quality care in rural America.Episode Timestamps:00:00 - 02:30: Intro to Dr. Goyal's background and wealth-building vision02:30 - 06:00: First real estate deal and the turning point in his investment journey06:00 - 10:00: Scaling the model—physician partnerships and wealth strategies10:00 - 15:00: Launching the debt fund and building infrastructure for rural healthcare15:00 - 20:00: Risk management, backup plans, and the physician transition model20:00 - 26:00: Operational insights, staffing, and patient acquisition26:00 - 32:00: Why debt over equity—fund structure and investor safeguards32:00 - 38:00: Investor underwriting, pro formas, and performance benchmarks38:00 - 44:00: Red flags investors should watch for and how to vet operators44:00 - 50:00: The future of medical real estate in a digital age50:00 - 53:30: Rapid-fire round: Best investment, daily habits, wealth philosophy

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All in-person services this weekend had been canceled. This audio features a replay sermon of the last core value on multiplication.

Boise State beach volleyball player Nora Hayd and Australian semi-pro hooper Caitlin Cunningham (a.k.a. Caitlin Dark) have gone viral around the world for being gothletes (goth athletes) and rocking a look not often seen on the court or the sand. Hayd and Cunningham join Sarah to discuss the attention they’ve received for their unique looks, dream makeup collabs, expanding the idea of what an athlete can look like, and why it’s always a good idea to express your true self. Follow Caitlin on social! Instagram: @caitlepillar Follow Nora on social! Instagram: @nora.rose14 Support ultra runner Sarah Porter here Leave us a voicemail at 872-204-5070 or send us a note at goodgame@wondermedianetwork.com Follow Sarah on social! Bluesky: @sarahspain.com TikTok: @Spain.Sarah Instagram: @Spain2323 Follow producer Alex Azzi! Bluesky: @byalexazzi.bsky.social Instagram: @AzziArtwork Follow producer Bianca Hillier! Bluesky:@biancahillier.bsky.social See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Alan Frow walks through the miracle of the loaves and fishes to show us the dynamics of a multiplying church.

Jeremie Kubicek is a globally recognized speaker, author, and leadership expert who's helped shape some of the world's top organizational cultures. As co-founder of Giant Worldwide, he's dedicated to multiplying healthy influence, building trust-driven workplaces, and creating systems that combine peace and performance. Jeremie's the author or coauthor of several bestselling leadership books, including Making Your Leadership Come Alive, The 100X Leader, Five Voices, The Peace Index, and his latest release, The Voice Driven Leader. In this episode, Jeremie shares how he's built nine interconnected revenue streams—and why leaders should aim to multiply their impact across ventures by focusing on people, systems, and personality-driven leadership. On this episode we talk about: How Jeremie built nine businesses that complement each other under a single ecosystem. The difference between “diversified investments” and “diversified revenue.” Why some personalities thrive with multiple ventures while others need narrow focus. How he uses AI (and his own custom GPT) to evaluate market readiness before launching. The mindset and apprenticeship model he uses to train operators and step into the executive chair role. Top 3 Takeaways Think like a portfolio manager, not a hustler. You can grow wealth faster by building connected ventures with shared DNA, not random side hustles. Create people-first businesses. Knowing your team's personalities and leading them in their “language” accelerates both trust and productivity. Test before you invest. Use market-readiness testing—and a little AI help—to validate ideas before committing serious time or capital. Notable Quotes “I figured out how to diversify revenue, not just investments.” “I start businesses, but I don't run them. I build, apprentice, and multiply.” “If you speak the language of the people you lead, they'll fight for you.” Connect with Jeremie Kubicek: Website: jeremiekubicek.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

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Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Join us at the 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/  Building a Multiplying Church from Scratch - Disciple Makers Podcast Join host Josh Shower in this insightful episode of the Disciple Makers Podcast as he explores the concept of starting from scratch to build a multiplying church by 2026. Dive deep into practical strategies rooted in prayer, fasting, and dependence on the Holy Spirit, and learn how to identify 'people of peace'. Discover how simplified gatherings and obedience-based discipleship can lead to exponential growth and a powerful movement. Perfect for church leaders and believers who are passionate about making disciples who make disciples. Tune in and be inspired to take bold steps in your faith journey! 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 01:05 Starting from Scratch: A Radical Approach 03:43 The Power of Prayer and Dependence 07:56 Finding People of Peace 12:27 Discipling a Few: Quality Over Quantity 15:16 Building Simple, Reproducible Gatherings 19:28 Refusing Complexity and Embracing Simplicity 21:01 Normalizing Immediate Obedience 22:36 Conclusion and Call to Action

Episode overview-Leadership is a gift—use it wisely.-Multiply your talents instead of burying them.-Growth comes from learning and serving others.-Mentorship is essential for future leaders.-Faith shapes decisions and leadership actions.-Take action: connect, mentor, and elevate others.Show notes & Resources

Check out Discipleship.org for resources on disciple-making: https://discipleship.org/resources/  Join us at the 2026 National Disciple Making Forum: https://discipleship.org/2026-national-disciple-making-forum/  Building a Disciple-Making Plan for 2026 | Disciple Maker's Podcast Join us for the first Disciple Maker's Podcast episode of 2026, where we dive into creating an effective disciple-making plan for your church. We'll explore the importance of focusing on multiplication over mere church growth, setting clear visions and goals, and designing intentional pathways to help your congregation follow Jesus and make disciples who make disciples. Learn how to define success, choose the right vehicles for disciple-making, create impactful rhythms, and invest in key multipliers within your church. Embark on a year-long journey to transform your church's approach to discipleship and witness significant Kingdom impact. For more resources, visit discipleship.org. 00:00 Introduction and Vision for 2026 00:42 The Importance of Multiplication Over Growth 02:18 Defining the Destination: What Kind of Disciples? 06:54 Choosing the Right Vehicles for Disciple Making 10:25 Reality Check: Assessing Your Current Disciple Making 15:20 Hijacking Church Programs for Disciple Making 17:16 Building a 2026 Disciple Making Plan 22:50 Creating Multiplication Rhythms 26:14 Identifying and Investing in Multipliers 27:48 Embedding Prayer and Fasting 28:52 Simplifying the Pathway for New Believers 30:15 Conclusion and Call to Action

In this episode of The Money Mondays Podcast, Dan Fleyshman sits down in Las Vegas with Bradley Sugars, founder of ActionCOACH, one of the world's largest business coaching organizations operating in 85+ countries and responsible for billions in client revenue.Brad shares decades of hard-earned wisdom on what truly separates struggling operators from successful business owners. From why most entrepreneurs stay stuck doing $20/hour tasks to how real wealth is built through systems, coaching, and accountability, this conversation pulls back the curtain on money, mindset, and scale.They dive deep into:Why business coaching delivers a 6–7x ROI and how to know if you're actually coachableThe difference between being a great operator vs. a true ownerWhy “how” kills most goals — and what to focus on insteadHow to think about investing once you've made money (businesses, real estate, and rules)Why talking about money openly is essential — especially with friends and familyThe real purpose of wealth, legacy, and giving backBrad also breaks down his philosophy on goal-setting, investing only where you're an expert, and why most people would rather look rich than be rich. This is a masterclass in business thinking, long-term wealth, and building a life that actually feels successful.If you want to make more money, invest smarter, and understand wealth at a deeper level, this episode is required listening.Like this episode? Watch more like it

We cannot plant all of the seeds on our own, nor do we want to try to do so. EMM is committed to training more workers to help in preparing the soil, planting the seeds, nurturing the sprouts, and harvesting the fields. Our Impact Fund provides the support for us to be able to invest in leadership development locally and around the world. When you support the Impact Fund ,you're not only helping to fund the integral structures of EMM's sending capacity, but you are also investing in our combined efforts to raise up and train leaders who will continue to go out and join God with us in this critical work.

In this episode of Money Mondays, Dan Fleyshman sits down with entrepreneur and educator Troy Millings to talk about building businesses, smart investing, and creating generational wealth. Troy shares how he built Earn Your Leisure into a multi-million-dollar brand and breaks down lessons on financial literacy, mentorship, and making an impact through live events like Invest Fest. This episode delivers practical insights on investing, entrepreneurship, and giving back with purpose.Troy Millings is an entrepreneur, educator, and founder of Earn Your Leisure, a multi-million-dollar brand focused on financial literacy, investing, and entrepreneurship. He hosts the Market Mondays podcast and produces Invest Fest, a live event connecting investors, entrepreneurs, and creators. Troy is known for helping people build wealth, make informed financial decisions, and create lasting impact.Like this episode? Watch more like it

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As the pilgrim, his poets, and the beautiful lady continue to stand beside Lethe, they see the approaching parade of the apocalypse, which is an example of emergent revelation, the truth coming in slowly and even deceptively.Our poet has set up a poetic space that leaves even Virgil speechless as we witness the first of the parade of multiple, open-ended meanings proliferate in the Garden of Eden.Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we catch our first glimpse of Dante's answer to St. John's Apocalypse.If you'd like to help underwrite the many fees associated with this podcast, please consider a one-time donation or a very small monthly stipend, using this PayPal link right here.Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:[01:16] My English translation of PURGATORIO, Canto XXIX, Lines 31 - 57. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, please find the entry for this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com.[04:00] The emergent revelation of the images and sounds.[09:00] The process of perception (and understanding).[14:12] Multiplying meanings in the apocalyptic parade.[20:27] The creation of space for the poetic imagery.[23:11] The second invocation of PURGATORIO.[26:50] The questions of poetic craft in this vision.[28:23] Virgil in the apocalypse.[31:10] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XXIX, lines 31 - 57.

What does it actually look like to make disciples in everyday life? In 2 Timothy 2:1–7, Paul gives Timothy a blueprint that still shapes the church today: receive strength from Jesus, invest intentionally in others, and stay focused like a soldier, disciplined like an athlete, and steady like a farmer. Pastor Eric walks through this life-giving passage and shows how ordinary believers can multiply their faith through simple, relational discipleship.

Episode Description: While warming up indoors on a snowy day, Max and Molly review their mysterious clues about the POGs—until Max's Alexa begins acting strangely. Decoding a message leads them to the famous toy store, FAO Schwarz, in 1998, where they overhear a secret meeting of sinister toy avatars plotting chaos across time. To stop them, Max and Molly decide they must become… moles. Math Concepts: Division with whole numbers and decimals; Multiplying decimals for cost calculations; Calculating time spans; Sound waves: how speed varies with temperature, medium, and environmental conditions.History/Geography Concepts: FAO Schwarz history (established 1862; cultural significance); Toy history: Tickle Me Elmo, Furbys, Teddy Ruxpin, and Edison Talking Dolls (late 19th-century experimental tech); Reading direction of Asian writing systems (Chinese, Japanese, Korean: historic right-to-left vertical writing).

What if the greatest gift of Christmas isn't something we buy, but something we become? Sharon Eubank, global humanitarian director for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, shares what she's learned about meaningful giving—and how each of us can better serve and lift others this holiday season. 3:29- Character Developed in Giving and Receiving 8:19- Safeguarding Dignity 11:42- Approaching the Enormity of the World's Suffering 18:03- Joining Hands 22:56- The Power of Presence 28:40- The Salvation Army 34:33- Sparking Hope 38:53- Multiplying and Replenishing 43:22- "Love's Pure Light" 46:48- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?  "If we can be the one that's handing them the can [of food] or listening to their story or reading a scripture with them or inviting them to our table to spark the hope that starts, aren't we lucky?" Links:  "Doing Small Things With Great Love" - https://www.deseretbook.com/product/PR00001103.html?cgid=books_nonfiction "Silent Night, Love's Pure Light" - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/broadcasts/christmas-devotional/2018/12/silent-night-loves-pure-light?lang=eng

Great leaders accomplish more by doing less—protecting margin, fully leveraging their unique strengths, and keeping the vision in front of their teams. In this episode, Andy Stanley and Jason Jaggard discuss why focus is a leadership discipline, not a personality trait. When leaders stop trying to do everything and instead focus on the work only they can do, the organization grows, the team gains clarity, and momentum accelerates. This episode explores the habits that keep leaders out of the weeds, thinking strategically, and empowering others to lead. Download the application guide: https://bit.ly/4rmoa8Q Here is what they cover in this episode: The leader who decides to make everybody happy eventually compromises. (5:28) Only do what only you can do—Identifying where you add the most value. (9:29) Fully exploited strength is a far greater value than marginally improved weakness. (17:46) The formula for vision. (29:04) The multiplier mindset, why replacing yourself is key to the health of your organization. (38:50) If you want to be great, you become a servant to everybody else. (55:28) Special thanks to our sponsor BELAY for offering a free download of their 40 hour CEO Work Week Guide. It includes goal setting, tools, templates, and an ideal work week builder. Just text the word ANDY to 55123 to claim your free guide now. Recognized as one of Forbes' 6 Leadership Podcasts To Listen To In 2024 and one of the Best Leadership Podcasts To Stay in the Know for CEOs, according to Industry Leaders Magazine. If this podcast has made you a better leader, you can help it by leaving a quick Spotify or Apple Podcasts review. You can visit Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and then go to the “Reviews” section. Thank you for sharing! ____________ Where to find Andy: Instagram: @andy_stanley Facebook: Andy Stanley Official X: @andystanley YouTube: @AndyStanleyOfficial See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, I'm joined by Pastor Aaron Burke, lead pastor of Radiant Church in Tampa Bay. Together, we explore how a church that started in a movie theater became a multiplying movement, why resilience and faith have shaped Aaron's leadership journey, and how The Unfair Advantage equips leaders to find purpose in life's challenges. Listen in as we discuss church multiplication, healthy mergers, and the kind of vision that builds ministries with lasting impact.

How does the church multiply and how does Blue Valley Church intend on multiplying? Church multiplication is Pastor Derrick Lynch gives report on Blue Valley Church's multiplication opportunities with an encouragement to the church from Nehemiah 4. Notes in this sermon: The Commitments of a Multiplying Church: Pray, Partner, Persevere Visit www.bluevalleychurch.org for more information about Blue Valley Church in Overland Park and Olathe, Kansas.

Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. We're talking with Jamie Barfield, the Lead Pastor at Palmetto Pointe Church in South Carolina. Palmetto Pointe is one of the fastest-growing churches in the country, with four locations in South Carolina, a campus in Southern Illinois, and Spanish-language services reaching even more people. Is your church in a season of slow growth or scarcity? Wondering how to stay faithful and creative when resources are tight? Tune in as Jamie shares powerful lessons from 18 years of ministry—how his team built a thriving, multiplying church by embracing perseverance, stewardship, and servant leadership. The long road to growth. // Palmetto Pointe's story is one of persistence and faithfulness. It took three years to break 100 in attendance, five years before Jamie drew a paycheck, and six before the church had its own building. Today the church averages 2,500 weekly attendees and continues to grow—up 31% last year alone. Jamie credits that perseverance to remembering the “why” behind ministry: reaching people with the message of Jesus Christ. Stewardship over scarcity. // In the early years, Jamie says the constant feeling of “not enough”—not enough money, volunteers, or influence—could have been crushing. Instead, it shaped the church's DNA around stewardship and innovation. Rather than throwing money at problems, the team learned to think creatively and maximize what God had already placed in their hands. That approach still drives their ministry today. Faith that looks forward. // While rejecting the “name it and claim it” mindset, Jamie embraces faith-filled vision. Even when he doesn’t know how to get to big things, he continues to be faithful with what he has right now. This conviction shapes how he leads – every resource is treated as a seed that can grow if cultivated with faith and hard work. Developing leaders intentionally. // One of Palmetto Pointe's most distinctive practices is its 12-week leadership development process, a hands-on journey that every potential leader must complete before serving in a leadership role. Participants are recommended by current leaders and walk closely with Jamie throughout the course. During those 12 weeks, participants serve across multiple ministries and complete weekly assignments that build humility and discipline. Only after completing the program do they join the pool of eligible leaders. Multiplying wisely. // As Palmetto Pointe has launched new services and campuses, Jamie has learned key lessons about healthy multiplication. Each expansion begins with identifying potential pain points, recruiting dedicated volunteers, and ensuring no one burns out. Before adding services, his team recruits a core group committed to that specific time slot for at least nine months. Encouragement for church leaders. // As a district overseer, Jamie has a heart for pastors—especially those in smaller churches who feel stuck or discouraged. His advice: make one Sunday amazing. Pick one big day—Easter, Mother's Day, or another big day—and go all in. Then pick one person and invest deeply in them. Small, faithful steps of stewardship often lead to exponential impact. To learn more about Palmetto Pointe Church, visit palmettopointechurch.com or connect with Jamie on social media at @pastorjamieb. Thank You for Tuning In! There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I'm grateful for that. If you enjoyed today's show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. 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Head over to www.SermonDone.com and use promo code Rich20 for 20% off today! Episode Transcript Rich Birch — Hey friends, welcome to the unSeminary podcast. So glad to have you tune in today. We’ve got a great conversation. Really looking forward to talking to a leader who I know you can learn from, talking about stuff that is really important as we think about our churches and think about the future. It’s our honor today to have Jamie Barfield with us. He is part of the leadership team at Palmetto Pointe Church. I don’t know why that’s stuck in my mouth coming out.Rich Birch — It’s one of the fastest growing churches in the country with four locations in beautiful Myrtle Beach in South Carolina, a location in Southern Illinois and Spanish services as well. He’s an ordained bishop in the Church of God, serves as a district oh overseer for the Myrtle Beach and surrounding areas. He’s also served, he’s got a lot going on, in the State Evangelism Board for the Church of God in South Carolina. Welcome to the show, Jamie, a real expert on the show today. Appreciate you being here.Jamie Barfield — I don’t know about expert, but it is an honor to be here. I learned a lot from the school of hard knocks, so I will be definitely able to answer from that point point of view.Rich Birch — Love it. Well, Palmetto Pointe is one of the fastest growing churches in the country. Now multiple locations, which is we see that 73% of churches over 2000 have multiple locations. For leaders that don’t know the story, kind of give me the story of your church. Tell me a little bit of what’s going on. If it were to arrive this weekend, what would that look like?Jamie Barfield — Yeah, wild, wild story. 18 years. We just celebrated 18 years. Rich Birch — Congratulations.Jamie Barfield — Took us three years to ever break 100. Five years before I was ever getting a paycheck from the church. Rich Birch — Wow.Jamie Barfield — Six years before we ever had our own facility. Seven years before I ever had another staff member with me. Right before COVID hit, we were doing four services. And then obviously COVID shut everything down. And last year, God’s favor has just been upon the church the last few years. Last year, we grew about 31% last year – it was wild. Rich Birch — Wow. Wow. And what does attendance look like now on the weekends at your church?Jamie Barfield — We had 2,500 last Sunday. Rich Birch — Wow. Jamie Barfield — And we had but 2,500 last Sunday and that we we had about, of that probably 2,100 was here at our our main location here in Myrtle Beach.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s incredible. Well, I appreciate that you paced out the timeline there, because I think there’s a lot of church leaders who, or church planters who are in these early days, and it feels like, and the early days could be half a decade, you know, it could be a long time.Rich Birch — Take us back when you think kind of the mindset of that, what what what was that experience like? How did you keep going? Talk us through what did that look like?Jamie Barfield — Yeah. Early on, you know, and I talked at a conference last weekend about your “why”, knowing why you’re in this to begin with, knowing why you started and never forgetting the thing that actually put you in ministry to begin with. You know, that moment God called you, that moment that he asked you to do something great for him.Jamie Barfield — And in those moments or those seasons, um early on specifically, when you were ready to throw in the towel and ready to quit, you always had to be reminded of, okay, God, why am I doing this? What is it that you put inside of me that pushed me to want to do something great for your kingdom?Jamie Barfield — It was never about a paycheck. It was never about being on an amazing podcast like this. It was never about speaking at conferences. It was always about reaching people with the message of Jesus Christ and doing our best to get that out there. And so in moments where you wanted to throw in the towel and you wanted to quit, you always go back to those seasons of, okay, God, why did you call me into this to begin with?Rich Birch — And what, what, when you answer that question in your own life, where does that, but you know, kind of, when you think about the why, how, what is what’s the kind of image that comes to mind or language that you wrap around for, for you?Jamie Barfield — I’m very visual. So I think of standing before the throne of God one day and him saying, well done, my good and faithful servant.Rich Birch — So good.Jamie Barfield —And I’m so it’s going to be such a beautiful moment, but it also also motivates me .bBecause I think in that moment that I’m going to go in there almost nervous of the time that I wasted or the time that I gave up or the time that I… And I’m so I’m so motivated by that moment that I just want to stand there and have him look at me with a big smile on his face and say, you did it. You did everything that I put before you to do. You did it. Good job, servant.Rich Birch — That’s so good. Well, early on, if we could talk for real here… Jamie Barfield — For real. Rich Birch — …like church planting, man, it’s it’s it’s tough.Jamie Barfield — It’s the hardest thing ever.Rich Birch — And those early years, yeah, those early years, it’s like, I don’t know. It’s like, you’re not rolling in cash. You don’t have the resources. You don’t have the people. Man, how how did that go for you? The kind of scarcity? How did that shape the way you lead, innovate? Talk us through that piece of the puzzle.Jamie Barfield — Yeah, lack of money, lack of volunteers, lack of influence in the community. You know, it it feels like you know the the word attached to church planting so often is lack. I don’t have enough.Rich Birch — Yeah, right.Jamie Barfield — And that mindset inside of church planters, it’s going to be the thing that either crushes them or is going to cause them to innovate. For us, we just decided it was going to be the thing that pushed us or that drove us. And so the scarcity mindset that you spoke about at you know the beginning of ministry was some some things that were birthed inside of us that created some stewardship principles that we still follow today at our church. You know, we’re very much penny pinchers. We’re going to try the best to figure out the best way rather than just throwing money at problems.Jamie Barfield — You know, I got buddies that, you you know, with the best of intentions, they just think that they can you you know, throw money at situations or at problems and it’s going to fix everything. And our mindset is just, we’re just going to be innovative. We’re going to try to figure this out and do it the best way we can without expecting that money is going to fix everything, or that volunteers are going to fix everything, or that influence is going to fix everything. So even at the start, all of that lack created or birthed something in us that has followed with us for the last 18 years.Rich Birch — Yeah, I’d I’d love to talk a bit a bit a bit more about that. Well, first of all, I think it’s I think it’s good that you’re underlining mindset. I know for me as a leader, and it took me way too long to figure out that like kind of my approach. You know, I’m not like, ah you know, name it and claim it kind of person. I don’t think I can like, you know, I can’t just like make stuff up.Jamie Barfield — Sure.Rich Birch — But what I do know is if I don’t have the faith for it, if I don’t believe that God’s going to do something, then it doesn’t happen. Jamie Barfield — Yeah, for sure. Rich Birch — And so I’m not sure how that happens. There’s like a weird connection there between what I believe about faith and like, and I probably some people are like, man, this guy’s got bad theology. But talk us through that mindset and how, maybe give us a couple examples of how that has impacted you even today.Jamie Barfield — Yeah, yeah. So I agree completely. The the you know concept of name it and claim it versus you got to have faith and where is that balance? And I’m unsure as well, probably got bad theology as well. But I definitely think that, you know especially early on, like it was, God, I see big things in our future. And I’m not sure how to get to big things, but I know I can’t settle with these things that we have now. Rich Birch — Yeah. That’s good.Jamie Barfield — So I have to press forward to make the things that we have in our hand now. I have to be a good steward of what you’ve given me. You know, he is faithful with little. You’re going to reward us with much. So, God, I’ve got to be faithful with what you put in my hands now.Rich Birch — That’s so true.Jamie Barfield — And I’m going to do the absolute best with this that I have in my hand now. But I’m going to do everything I can to make this thing better. Because I see bigger, because I see greater in front of us. Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — And so I’m not going to just stop here and say, well, this is all that I have. This is this is all that I’m ever going to be. I’m going to do more for you with what you placed in my hands. I’m going to be that servant that whenever you walk away from me, you gave me two talents. I’m go to do my best to turn it into four.Rich Birch — Yeah that’s, yeah, that’s amazing. That’s that’s so good. I love, you know, we wanna be multipliers of what, you know, what’s given. And I think the the financial stewardship thing makes sense. I think that’s understandable. You can see where, man, we gotta be good we gotta use the resources we have.Rich Birch — What about on the people side? When you think about kind of being good stewards of your people, maybe developing leaders, that sort of thing, how does that work? What practices have you helped has have you kind of kept this mindset of innovation, kind of getting the most out of our people, that sort of thing. How has that impacted how what you do even today?Jamie Barfield — Yeah, so I grew up in a very small church, you know maybe 70, 80 people. Maybe on on big Sundays we had 120 on Easter or something of that nature. And I saw leaders being thrown into situations, not trained well, not knowing church culture, not knowing what expectations were, not knowing the pastor’s heart. I saw all of that growing up.Jamie Barfield — And those leaders that were thrown in oftentimes would find themselves burnt out by focusing on things that they really had no passion for. And the pastor maybe didn’t know what the thing inside of them that was the thing that really you know would drive them. And so we just decided whenever, you know, probably 10 or 12 years ago, we just decided we were going to create a process of knowing our our leaders and our leaders knowing me well.Jamie Barfield — And so so we we go through a you know, I tell them all the time as we do a 12 week course. It’s not really we call it leadership development, but it’s not really leadership development. It’s more about you have to learn this culture. You have to learn my heart and my expectations for you. Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — But I’ve also got to learn your story, and your passion, and your vision. Because I want us to walk away from this 12 weeks together, I want to walk away better prepared for a future together. And so as you’re walking this 12 weeks out with me, you’re you you know they’re serving everywhere in the church and serving in kids ministry one week and you know making coffee one week and all of the things. But what we’re learning in that season together is expectation. And you’re learning me and I’m learning you, but we’re putting expectation on what it takes to be a leader. And so as they finish this 12-week process with me, they then go into this pool of just to even be considered to be a leader in our church. Rich Birch — Oh, that’s interesting.Jamie Barfield — So everybody that’s ever been a leader in our church, before they ever get to a leadership role, they’re a part of this pool because they’ve been through this 12-week journey with me. And I’m there with these people every step along the way, because again, I’ve seen it done so poorly that I just wanted to make sure that my fingerprint was upon leaders and volunteers in such a way. Rich Birch — That’s cool.Jamie Barfield — You know, there’s again, go back to a parable of Jesus, you know, the sower and the seed, you know, there’s this, there’s this principle of where you sow, if you sow in good soil, that it’s going to produce a good fruit. And so these people that are, that are, have a passion for the kingdom of God and want to do something great for the kingdom of God, those are the people that I want to invest my time, effort, and energy into because those are the people that are going to produce the, the largest or most productive harvest.Rich Birch — Okay. I want to double click on this. Jamie Barfield — For sure. Rich Birch — There’s a ah bunch there that I want to unpack… Jamie Barfield — For sure. Rich Birch — …which is fantastic. So how, so how do you identify or how does your team identify people that land in this 12 weeks? And then I’d love to talk a little bit about, you know, the, actually the mechanics of it what’s going on in those 12 weeks.Jamie Barfield — They have to be recommended by a leader in our church.Rich Birch — Okay.Jamie Barfield — It’s the only way to join the 12-week journey.Rich Birch — Okay.Jamie Barfield — So a leader in our church sees them, watches them serve or whatever inside of the church, and then they recommend them to my assistant, and we we start the journey with them.Rich Birch — Okay. And those, is it like you run it in like a couple of seasons during the year? It’s a class and like a cohort matter. What’s the content? Just give us a ah a bit of, you know, a bit more about that.Jamie Barfield — Yeah, we do we do two… Yeah, we do two semesters of it. So twice a year we run it. And it is ah one night a week. We meet at the church. We go through ah hour, hour and a half you know class type setting with constant homework through the week. And homework looks as simple as, you know, we we read the book, Andy Stanley, Next Generation Leader. We read through that together.Jamie Barfield — Homework is serving assignments on Sunday. Homework is cleaning the church. You know, little things like that that just creates this culture, this this servanthood inside of them. So once ah once a week, we’re here at the church learning together. But then through the week, we’re constantly um connected and, um you know, again, working, efforting to to sharpen them through the 12 weeks.Rich Birch — That’s cool. And you know you mentioned it multiple times. So you’ve really kept ownership of this group. They’re meeting with you. That I want to underline for folks that are listening in.Jamie Barfield — Yeah.Rich Birch — You know, your church you said is 2,500 people. There’s a lot of pastors of a church of 2,500 that would say, hey, I don’t have time to meet with this. Kind of unpack that a little bit more. I know you mentioned this already, but I want to kind of unpack what what are you thinking about there? What’s the advantage? How far does that scale, you think?Jamie Barfield — Yeah, I am a huge advocate of whatever it is that you do, whatever’s on your plate. There’s some things that you have to do as a pastor or as a leader. And leadership development ought to be something that you have your fingerprint on. Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. Jamie Barfield — Whether it’s [inaudible] as much as mine is or whether it’s just, hey, I’m creating class and I’m stepping in every now and then, but somewhere, somehow, you have to be touching your leaders in the church and they have to know your heart. Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Jamie Barfield — Whenever they go away from this class and they’re serving wherever, and maybe even they’re on a campus or doing whatever they’re doing, when they walk away from me, they know me, they know my heart, they know my, my expectations.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Jamie Barfield — And so I don’t have to go into, you know, seasons and step into kids ministry and try to put out fires and fix problems because they know me from the start before they ever get involved in certain ministries. They already know me and already know my heart. And so it just makes the the family community atmosphere of the church healthier…Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — …because from from birth, this is from birth. This isn’t something that we’re trying to teach on the run. This is something we teach from birth to through the process. And then whenever they launch into whatever ministry they um lead or or serve in they already have all the foundational principles, all the pillars are built.Rich Birch — That’s interesting. I love it. That’s, that’s great to learn more about. Talk to me about an expectation that ah that you have of your leaders that might be a little bit different. That might be like, oh, hey, it’s, you know, kind of in the secret sauce category that you’re like, hey, this is a part of what God’s using when, you know, hey, if you’re leading here, this is what we want you to be like, or something activity or something like that.Jamie Barfield — Yeah. So so for instance, servanthood is something that I’m very passionate about. I am a servant. I expect leaders here at this church to be servants. I think Jesus is the greatest leader of all time, and he was a servant leader. It’s who he was. It was a part of his you know, character. And so, so servanthood is something that we, my wife and I portray to our leadership. And then we give expectation that this is what we expect from leaders inside of our church and throughout every department of our church.Jamie Barfield — I think that is, that is, you know, something as simple as when you see some trash in the parking lot, as you’re walking up, you pick it up. All the way to when we’re having church events here, my wife and I are the last ones to eat. We’re not first in line. Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — We’re making sure everybody else is served because we want we want to make sure that we are servant leaders inside of our our team.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. So I’d love to know, you guys have launched multiple locations, obviously multiple services within that. Multiplication is, to me, is a sign that you’re developing leaders. There’s something good happening on that front. You can’t do that unless you, you know, have multiplied leaders. Talk us through some of the lessons you’ve learned around multiplication as it relates to leadership development and how that all works together.Jamie Barfield — Yeah, I will say that good leaders multiply themselves, but so do bad leaders. Rich Birch — Oh gosh, that’s true. Oh man.Jamie Barfield — And so that’s and so that’s that that’s that’s dangerous as well. Rich Birch — Yes. Jamie Barfield — And so as as we multiplied, you know, from multiple services to, you know, multiple campuses and all the things that come with multiplication, as we have walked through the seasons of multiplication, we’ve always identified early the needs that were going to be present and tried our best to make an effort to make them not as painful as they could have been if we wouldn’t have identified them.Jamie Barfield — And so something as simple as you know whenever we you know we were talking about launching multiple services, when when we launched into multiple times, we’ve launched into multiple services and been able to you know, through growth, knock out walls and go back to one and then we’re at two and then we’re at three, knock out a wall, back to one, two, three. And then right at COVID, we were doing four. But the the healthiest way that we ever launched a service was we did a 8 a.m. and a 10 a.m. The 8 a.m. was for volunteers only. So it was kids’ workers. It was, you know, we did, but did we did a full service. We did the band. We did I did my full sermon. It was volunteers only, but you’re welcome to come. Rich Birch — Right. Jamie Barfield — But this is strictly, you know, we’re focusing on volunteers. But then whenever we launched into two, as that second service filled up, we launched into two. We completely changed service times. What was a 10 a.m. service, now we went to 9 and 11. So then everybody was forced and instead instead of saying, oh, well, this is my service time. Now everybody was forced to choose a different service time. Rich Birch — Right.Jamie Barfield — So the 8 a.m. people we you know went to the 9 a.m., obviously, and the 10 a.m. people had to choose, do I want to get up an hour early or do I want to come an hour later? Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Jamie Barfield — And so it was almost it was actually a 45 to 65 percent split whenever we went to the 9 and the 11. So it was the healthiest way we had ever done it, so incredibly beautiful.Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — And so just, you know, if somebody’s watching this and they’re looking to go to two services, I would suggest have a volunteer service, go all in because that starts training your your band to do two services. It starts training your volunteers of what time they’d have to get there to be able to do multiple things. It kind of creates that buffer of a tension point in the future and being able to look look in advance to say, hey, let me let me work some of these issues out before we get there.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. um Kind of related to that, I feel like this is the year of like the three service questions, third service questions. Like I’ve had so many people in this last year reach out to me. I’ve written, I think three or four blog posts, probably 10,000 words on different stuff I’ve learned um about this because it’s like just keeps coming up. Like even today, literally today, I got an email about it this morning.Rich Birch — So talk me through what what you’ve done at Palmetto Pointe around identifying when we pull the trigger for more services. Is that what mix of that is like opportunistic—we’re creating new space—or it’s reactive, like which of how much of it’s proactive, reactive? And how do you, you know, your church is growing, you’re growing quickly. How do you, how do you keep a far enough ahead? Cause you can’t just decide, Hey, we’re going to do new services. You got to do planning to make it all happen. Talk us through what’s that look like? How are you kind of the, how, how do we know how to identify when we pull the trigger? That sort of thing. Talk us through what that looks like.Jamie Barfield — Yeah, reactive is terrible. I’ve done it twice. Reactive to, oh no, you know the parking lot’s full. Let’s plan a second service. You know, hat’s terribly difficult. You know, the proactive approach of, I see growth, here goes what, you know, we’re already talking about Easter next year, okay? Here goes how many people are gonna show up. How many services do we need for Easter? And then how much did we grow last year for Easter? So if those people come back, what can they expect the next week?Jamie Barfield — And so for me, it becomes, opportunistic, yes. Launching multiple services are going to help your church grow. But as you’re launching multiple services, the growth versus the attrition, how is this going to wear your team out? Is this going to wear your staff out? Is this going to wear your band out or your kids’ ministry workers out? And that balance of, okay, at what point do you press forward and what at what point do you pump the gas or pump the brakes? Jamie Barfield — And so I would just say for us, what we learned through this journey is, you know we want to make sure that when we launch into a another service that there’s a core group of people that are going to be a part of that service. I need you to I need you to say for nine months you’re going to be a part of this service and this is your thing.Jamie Barfield — And so when we launch into another service, we’re going to make sure that this group of people wants to be there, and this is their church and their service. And then for us, we’re going to make sure that we have a completely different staffed kids’ ministry, completely different group, so we’re not wearing out the already wore-out volunteers of kids’ ministry.Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — And depending on the time slot, we’ve we’ve tried three different time slots for our third service, but depending on the time slot we choose, it potentially may be a completely different band as well. Maybe the same worship leader, but a completely different band. Because those are the really the two areas, kids ministry and band and the staff. Those are the three areas that are really going to wear you out with multiple services.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. That’s good. That’s some really clear thinking there around that. Really appreciate that. You know, at 31%, if you continue to grow, I know you know this, you know, that’s like just less than two and a half years, you’ll end up doubling. Jamie Barfield — Right. Rich Birch — So you’ll be a church of 5,000 if you continue at this rate.Jamie Barfield — Crazy.Rich Birch — And that that becomes difficult to stay in front of. You know, I’ve led in churches that are growing at that rate. And it’s it’s hard to to keep the skis out in front, you know, keep things moving in the right direction.Rich Birch — Let’s pivot in a totally different direction. I want to take advantage of the fact that you’re a district overseer, in your movement. From your perspective, from your vantage point, what are you seeing across the church these days as it comes to growth and and challenges? And kind of what are you learning as you’re in that kind of coach seat?Rich Birch — I’m taking advantage of the fact that you’re coaching other leaders.Jamie Barfield — I actually love that you asked me this question because I was talking with a guy yesterday, and we were talking about how smaller churches specifically, those pastors are really struggling with grasping what their expectations of congregants are, and what the congregants’ expectations of the church should be.Jamie Barfield — We as small you know smaller church pastors specifically, but we expect them to show up and to give and to serve and to connect, but they don’t have those same expectations on their life. So 30, 40 years ago, those were the expectations of a church attender.Rich Birch — Right.Jamie Barfield — Now they’re not.Rich Birch — Right. Right.Jamie Barfield — And so we have these unrealistic expectations that are creating frustrations from the pulpit to the pew. And I think it’s it’s creating this disconnect, or or honestly, I’ve seen some pastors even preach maybe very angry towards their congregation because of the unrealistic expectations placed upon those people. And so I would say maybe just to the smaller church pastor, which again is 80% of America, you know…Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely. Yep.Jamie Barfield — …those those guys listening to this, maybe be more understanding of how life has changed in the last 30 or 40 years. I’m not saying lower our standards of righteousness or scriptural truth, but understand that travel ball is a thing and it’s always going to be a thing. And you know, school plays and you know, families going on vacation. Rich Birch — Right.Jamie Barfield — Man, we celebrate when families go on vacation. I’m not mad at you for taking a vacation because I want a vacation, you know? Rich Birch — Yes.Jamie Barfield — And so we celebrate when families go on vacation. So just creating realistic expectations for the congregation rather than what the, what the expectations were 30 or 40 years ago.Rich Birch — That’s good. I like that. You know understanding where people are are today and not you know not overburdening them with ah a previous model. I think that’s a really good word for sure. How can we think about that same pastor that maybe sees that frustration and and takes the, you know, the pastoral word of like, yes, I’m not going to exacerbate my people, but I want to help clearly articulate. I kind of want to point to a brighter future for them. Jamie Barfield — For sure.Rich Birch — How do I what what would you suggest to them? How do you how should we do that? Jamie Barfield — Well, first off, I would say one of the things that I see giving life to pastors is them connecting with other pastors. Rich Birch — So true.Jamie Barfield — I would just encourage a pastor watching this to make sure that he has or she has somebody in their life that’s outside of the bubble of their own church that may be going through something similar to their to what they’re going through.Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — And I just think pastors encouraging pastors. We’re on the same team. We’re in this together. Pastors, encouraging pastors. I love what you do here where you celebrate ministries and what they’re doing. I just see that giving such life to um to other pastors that are discouraged and frustrated and aggravated. So I would start there. I would say, man, pastors, find another pastor and speak life into them.Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — Maybe maybe the second thing I would say is you know maybe maybe an encouragement to, you know, to pastors who have wanted to try something new and try something different. Maybe just an encouragement to you know and to to do it, man. Just do it. Just try it.Rich Birch — Give it a try.Jamie Barfield — See what happens. Throw spaghetti up against the wall and see what sticks.Rich Birch — You get a lot of grace from most, I think most of the people in our churches, we have the the negative voice person in our head, the person that like doesn’t love what we do and is like a complainer or whatever, but that’s like a rare minority in most churches. Jamie Barfield — Yeah. Rich Birch — Like most of the people in the church are cheering for the pastor, cheering for the leaders… Jamie Barfield — That’s right. Rich Birch — …and are like, man, I love that guy. I love that girl. And if you were to say, Hey, I’d love us to try this thing. It’s just a test. Let’s see what happens. Most people would be like, let’s do it, you know, and, and I, you know, that’ll be fine. And if it goes bad, then don’t take yourself too serious and say, well, we tried that. That didn’t work. And that’s okay. um Yeah, that’s good. I love that. That’s a great word for sure.Jamie Barfield — Yeah. Agree. Agree completely. Agree completely.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s great. Well, just as we’re kind of landing today’s episode, any final words as we think about for people that are listening in about, you know, what you’ve learned through the years? I love the mindset stuff we’ve been talking about and just this whole area of like our our you know our approach to scarcity, how that works. But anything else you’d love us to think about today as we’re hanging up today?Jamie Barfield — Yeah, yeah um maybe maybe maybe just to um to the guys that are feeling guys and gals that are feeling stuck, um you know maybe maybe short on everything. Lack is a big thing. Here goes here would be my encouragement. Make every Sunday amazing the best you can, but pick one day and throw all of your energy towards that one day. Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Jamie Barfield — Maybe it’s Christmas Eve service coming up, or maybe it’s an Easter service or Mother’s Day or, you know, a manufactured big day, ah you know, a back to church Sunday or something of that nature. Rich Birch — That’s good.Jamie Barfield — Pick a day and throw all of your energy towards that one day. Pick a person and start investing in a person. You may not be able to do a leadership development process, but pick a person and start investing your life into that person.Rich Birch — Dude, that’s so good.Jamie Barfield — Pick one event in the community and just show up for it. Just you know wear a church shirt and show up for the event and shake hands and hug necks and tell everybody, hey, you know. Pick one area of ministry and you know you know go go to your kids’ ministry and say, how can I make this better? You don’t have to fix it all right now. Rich Birch — That’s so good.Jamie Barfield — You don’t have to you don’t have to be great at everything right now. You don’t have to have the most amazing, you know, Mother’s Day yet. But man, you can find one thing and just start focusing on something. And I think this is where that mindset of there’s more out there. I’m going to focus on something and make this one thing that God has put in my hand. I’m going to make this thing better.Rich Birch — Dude, that is such good advice. You know, don’t drown in the all the things you wish you could do. Pick one thing and just do it. I love that. Jamie Barfield — Pick one thing and do it.Rich Birch — A friend of mine was a church planter and i was like, I think it was either the first or second Easter they did they went all in on the like Easter egg drop, which I know lots of people have done. But it was a smash success for them. They, you know, it was like five times their normal attendance. It was fantastic. The local news showed up. It was, and it gave, man, it breathed energy into the church for months. Jamie Barfield — Yes. Yes.Rich Birch — Like they lived off of that because it was like, hey, that was a win. Yeah, that’s, that’s so good. Well, this has been a great conversation today. Rich Birch — I love talking to church planters. You know, I was recently with a leader of a church. We were walking around his facility and their buildings about 250,000 square feet, giant building. And he was talking about himself as a church planter. He was like, you know, referring to that. Rich Birch — And and I joked with him. I said, well, at what point do you stop being a church planter? Like when you, you know, when you you just are doing a $20 million dollars building or whatever, I think, you know, somewhere along the line. But he’s like, no, once a church planter, always a church planter. We’re always, ah you know, the same thing. So I’ve really appreciated this similar conversation today.Jamie Barfield — That’s exactly right. Rich Birch — Jamie, if people want to track with you or track with the church, where do we want to send them online?Jamie Barfield — Yeah, palmettopointechurch.com, it’s all over social media.Rich Birch — Perfect.Jamie Barfield — pastorjamieb, all of all of the social media handles are that. Love to connect with them…Rich Birch — That’s great.Jamie Barfield — …palmettopointechurch.com, I’d love to connect. Rich Birch — That’s great. Thanks so much, Jamie. Really appreciate you being here today, sir.Jamie Barfield — Thank you so much for the opportunity.

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