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Travis and producer Eric perform a tongue‑in‑cheek “autopsy” on the rise and fall of Clubhouse, revisiting a 2021 conversation with Jordan Harbinger where they questioned whether the app could ever compete with podcasting. They unpack why a product that looked brilliant on paper—and raised money at a $4B valuation—collapsed so quickly, and what creators, founders, and marketers should learn before betting their careers on the next hype platform. On this episode we talk about: What Clubhouse actually was (live, invite‑only audio rooms) and why early hype convinced many people it might “kill podcasting” Why Travis and Jordan were skeptical from the start: no on‑demand listening, chaotic audio quality, unqualified speakers, and a format that demanded hours of real‑time attention How follower counts and moderator status created a hollow, status‑driven game that rarely translated into real audience or revenue The psychological moment Travis realized the opportunity cost—half‑listening to a room while missing time with his infant son—and decided to walk away even if Clubhouse “won” How a few marketers did monetize the app (treating rooms like live webinars), and why podcasts and audiobooks still win for durable, compounding content and leverage Top 3 Takeaways Any platform that requires constant real‑time presence, but doesn't create durable assets (episodes, clips, searchable archives), is risky as a primary growth strategy. Vanity metrics and FOMO can lure smart people into massive time sinks; always weigh status and follower counts against actual business outcomes and life trade‑offs. Long‑form, on‑demand media like podcasts remain powerful because they respect the listener's time, allow deep preparation, and compound over years instead of disappearing after one live session. Notable Quotes “Clubhouse was like a podcast that doesn't get recorded, done by everybody on AirPods, with eight unprepared guests, none of whom are qualified to talk.” “I realized I was half‑present with my son just to ‘be a mod' and chase followers on an app that might not exist in a year—that was a terrible trade.” “Even if this is the next Instagram, I'm okay not ‘winning' here if the time cost means sacrificing what actually matters.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis reconnects with long‑time friend and solar sales leader Steven Cohen to break down how door‑to‑door solar has created life‑changing income for thousands of reps—and why the recent merger of Sunder Energy with publicly traded SunPower has only strengthened that opportunity. From early days earning a few hundred dollars per kilowatt to today's multi‑thousand‑dollar commissions, Steven explains how the industry has evolved, what the new legislation means, and why performance‑based sales is still one of the fastest paths out of a capped paycheck. On this episode we talk about: How Sunder Energy grew into one of the largest solar sales dealerships in the U.S. and why SunPower acquired it to power their third‑party ownership (TPO/lease/PPA) strategy going into 2026 What the recent “big, beautiful bill” did to tax credits, why homeowners will lose the 30% credit on ownership, and how finance companies now use that credit on TPO to lower customer costs Current solar commissions (often $700–$800+ per kW and even higher in some markets), realistic income potential for committed reps, and why many people are now earning the same money on less volume The realities of 100% commission work—no base, no benefits, but unlimited upside—and why solar, pest control, alarms, and similar models are better viewed as businesses than jobs How industry corrections, higher interest rates, and weak operators have shaken out tourists from solar—and why those who stay, build teams, and play the long game are best positioned for the next upswing Top 3 Takeaways Performance‑based sales can compress your earning timeline dramatically, but only if you treat it like a business, manage volatility, and stay in the game when conditions get hard instead of chasing the next “easy” industry. Door‑to‑door isn't just about commission checks; it forges rare skills in communication, resilience, team building, and leadership that transfer to any future venture or career. Solar is still a long‑term growth industry despite short‑term corrections; as energy demand soars with AI, data centers, and crypto, those who remain and level up through this cycle are likely to benefit most from the next boom. Notable Quotes “Profits are better than wages—any time you can be paid on the value you create instead of the hours you clock, you give yourself a real shot at financial freedom.” “It's never just about your comp plan; it's about what you believe you're worth and whether you're willing to bet on your performance instead of your time.” “Most people play the finite game and quit when a cycle turns; if you can stay planted for a decade in the right vehicle, you usually win by simply outlasting everyone else.” Connect with Steven Cohen: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevencohen/?hl=en ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Neri Karra Sillaman joins Travis to unpack why immigrant entrepreneurs are disproportionately likely to build enduring, billion‑dollar businesses. Drawing on her journey from refugee child expelled from Bulgaria, to founder of a 25‑year‑old leather goods company, to PhD and entrepreneurship expert at Oxford University, Neri shares the eight principles from her book Pioneers: Eight Principles of Business Longevity from Immigrant Entrepreneurs and how any founder can apply them. On this episode we talk about: Neri's family being expelled from Bulgaria with two suitcases, becoming refugees in Turkey, and how that shaped her obsession with education as a path to a better life Coming to the University of Miami at 18, discovering that the Intel chip in the computer lab was created by a refugee, and how that reframed her identity as an immigrant Launching a sustainable leather goods brand by repurposing surplus luxury Italian leather, and eventually manufacturing for houses like Prada and Miu Miu Why nearly half of Fortune 500 companies and the vast majority of billion‑dollar startups have immigrant founders or executives, and what she calls the eight “pioneer” principles behind that success How cross‑cultural bridging, future‑back vision, deep community orientation, humility, and a lack of entitlement help immigrant entrepreneurs spot opportunities and build companies that last Top 3 Takeaways Immigrant founders often win because they blend cultures, see problems from multiple vantage points, and design solutions informed by their past while building toward a very clear future vision. A strong sense of non‑entitlement—expecting to earn every opportunity—and humility in leadership (inviting employees, suppliers, and communities into the solution) are core to long‑term business resilience. Treating your company as part of an ecosystem, not the center of the universe, leads to healthier relationships with suppliers, employees, institutions, and even the environment, which supports business longevity. Notable Quotes “Being an immigrant is not something to hide; it can be the very source of the ideas and resilience that build great companies.” “You are not a star operating alone—your company is only as healthy as the ecosystem it's a part of.” “You can't have ego in this game; you can't take rejection personally when you're building something that matters.” Connect with Neri Karra Sillaman: https://nerispeaks.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Eric and Travis react to a clip of Riaz Meghji. Riaz breaks down the craft of powerful conversations, drawing on his two decades as a TV host, human connection keynote speaker, and author of Every Conversation Counts. Known for helping leaders build meaningful relationships in a distracted, digital-first world, Riaz shares practical frameworks any creator, entrepreneur, or interviewer can use to unlock deeper stories and stronger trust with guests, clients, and audiences.​ On this episode we talk about: Why Riaz lost his first MTV Canada hosting job, what imposter syndrome looked like on camera, and how not burning bridges brought him back to the network later The mindset shift from “how do I look?” to “how do I light up the person watching?” and why focusing on the audience changes everything about how you show up How to “overprepare to improvise” so research gives you confidence, but listening and curiosity drive the actual conversation Simple phrasing shifts—like “tell me about,” “take me back,” and “set the scene”—that turn flat Q&A into emotional, story-rich dialogue Practical ways to ask for stories you “can't Google,” especially with highly interviewed guests, and how that leads to more memorable content and relationships Top 3 Takeaways The best interviews prioritize the audience and the guest, not the host's ego; your job is to unlock stories and insights that genuinely serve the listener. Overpreparation plus improvisation is the winning combo: know your guest's world deeply, then be willing to drop the script when something more alive shows up. Asking for specific moments and stories instead of abstract answers creates emotional connection, builds trust faster, and makes your content stand out. Notable Quotes “The opportunity to unlock something unique, personal, and something you can't Google is always there—but only if you stop obsessing over how you look on camera.” “Overprepare to improvise: do the work beforehand, then lean into listening so you can follow what actually matters in the room.” “Emotion is what connects us; when you ask for a story, people don't just hear information—they feel like they're living the moment with you.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis and producer Eric tackle one of the most common questions in personal finance and self‑help: can money really buy happiness? They dig into research on income and life satisfaction, talk through how money affects freedom and options, and explore cautionary tales of wealthy people who became slaves to greed. The conversation ultimately reframes money as a powerful tool—one that can remove money problems and expand your choices, but can't fix who you are on the inside. On this episode we talk about: What happiness research actually says about income thresholds and why the happiness “boost” from more money flattens out once basic needs and comfort are met How money amplifies your character—making generous people more generous and greedy people more dangerous—and why being broke or rich can both turn you into a slave to money if you're not careful Stories of investors and executives who risked everything for “one more” big win, versus those who hit their number and chose time, relationships, and impact over endless accumulation The idea that money only solves money problems—and why removing financial stress can free up mental and emotional bandwidth to work on purpose, relationships, health, and fulfillment Practical encouragement to pursue wealth unapologetically while simultaneously working on your mindset, values, and skills so you can handle money well when it arrives Top 3 Takeaways Money doesn't directly buy happiness beyond a certain baseline, but it absolutely buys options, time, and stress relief—all of which make it easier to pursue the things that do drive long‑term happiness. You can be equally enslaved to money whether you have none or have a lot; the difference is whether you control money as a tool or let it control your decisions, identity, and integrity. The healthiest path is to grow your character and your net worth at the same time—so that when you do become wealthy, you're the kind of person who uses that wealth to improve life for yourself and others. Notable Quotes "If you're going to be unhappy, you'd rather be unhappy with money than without it—but the real win is using money to remove money problems so you can focus on everything else." "Money is just an amplifier; if you're a crappy person, money will make you a crappier person. If you're a good person, money will make you a better version of yourself." "Unapologetically pursue money, but don't worship it—treat it as a tool to buy back your time, support the people you love, and fund the impact you want to have." ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Keith Yackey joins Travis to talk about the surprising overlap between making more money and having a thriving marriage. A former contractor, pastor, and real estate investor who built a seven‑figure online business in 14 months, Keith now runs Married Game, where he helps men become the most attractive version of themselves for themselves—and, as a byproduct, for their wives. From proof‑of‑funds tools in real estate to high‑ticket relationship coaching, Keith has consistently turned conviction, collaboration, and personal transformation into serious income.​ On this episode we talk about: How Keith turned a painful separation from his wife Jessi into the foundation for Married Game and a business built on leading from what he actually lives​ The real estate proof‑of‑funds service that became his “easiest $2 million” and what it taught him about solving specific problems for existing audiences​ Why he believes being rich can be one of the most spiritual journeys you can pursue, especially if you grew up with “money is evil” messaging in church culture​ The mindset shift from needing to impress others to simply doing what you say you'll do, paying people fast, and becoming radically non‑needy in business and relationships​ How surrounding himself with wealthier friends, adopting a white‑belt mentality, and paying off a 14‑year‑old $50k debt at a doorstep full of family changed his internal peace and external opportunities​ Top 3 Takeaways The same skills that make you good at business—having a great product, serving people well, taking responsibility—also make you good at marriage; most men simply refuse to apply them at home.​ Money is a neutral amplifier and a scoreboard for value at scale; mastering it lets you contribute more to the causes and people you care about, instead of being a lifelong slave to financial stress.​ Non‑neediness is a cheat code: when you keep your word, pay people quickly, and detach from impressing others, you become more attractive to high‑level partners, clients, and friends.​ Notable Quotes “If you believed about business what most people believe about marriage—that it just gets worse after a couple of years—you'd never invest a dime in a company.”​ “Being rich might be one of the most spiritual journeys you can go on, because it forces you to become more valuable to the people around you.”​ “Do what you say you're going to do, when you say you're going to do it, without fault—that one rule has built my reputation and set me free.”​ Connect with Keith Yackey: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keithyackey​ Married Game: https://marriedgame.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis and producer Eric break down how “lifestyle creep” quietly traps people in careers and businesses they don't even like. Using Travis's own journey—from upgrading houses and stuffing the biggest U‑Haul available, to downsizing into an 800 sq ft apartment with his brother‑in‑law so he could rebuild—this episode shows how controlling lifestyle and expenses can buy the freedom to switch careers, start a business, and actually enjoy the process. On this episode we talk about: How innocently “just upgrading a little” turns into bigger houses, pools, and piles of stuff that quietly dictate your career choices The story of walking away from a big Vegas house, throwing away and selling most possessions, and moving into a tiny apartment to make room for a new business chapter The real cost of “nice things” like backyard pools—and how ongoing utilities, maintenance, and repairs add up far beyond the install price Why most people use money from work they dislike to finance a lifestyle they don't really care about, locking themselves into golden handcuffs Practical ways to improve your lifestyle without killing your margin for growth, including setting income/expense targets and channeling surplus into skills, networks, and investments Top 3 Takeaways If you don't consciously tell your money where to go, lifestyle creep will decide for you—there is always a nicer car, neighborhood, or upgrade waiting to absorb the raise you just got. Freedom comes from the gap between what you earn and what you spend; increasing income only helps if you keep your lifestyle intentionally below your means and invest the difference. You can have most of what you want—just not all of it right now; delaying some gratification to build skills, relationships, and assets can compress your timeline to real wealth by decades. Notable Quotes "If you don't give your money a job, it will start doing whatever it wants—usually in the form of upgrades you didn't actually need." "Most people are doing work they don't like to pay for a lifestyle that doesn't really matter to them, and that trade keeps them stuck." "Your attitude matters more than your circumstances; plenty of people with far less than you are far happier, because they're not trying to impress anyone." ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis sits down with entrepreneur and “CEO Whisperer” Charles Gaudet, founder and CEO of Predictable Profits, to unpack how real momentum—not just ideas—creates lasting success. From launching his first “business” at four years old to building a multimillion‑dollar company in his twenties and helping clients add over $100M in revenue, Charles explains why most owners cap out on hard work, how to think about setbacks, and why—if he started over today—he'd buy a business instead of starting from scratch. On this episode we talk about: Charles's early exposure to entrepreneurship through his father, his first art “business” at age four, and the conviction it took to ignore college pressure to get a job Why entrepreneurship is a springboard—up, down, then higher up again—and how your peer group and spouse can either pull you back to “70 degrees” or push you into your next level The difference between treating setbacks as proof you should quit versus training yourself to ask, “Why could this be the best thing that's happening to me right now?” How consistent, imperfect action and momentum beat “perfect strategies,” and why most owners stall when they rely only on hard work, word of mouth, and referrals Why Charles would buy a business today instead of starting one, what he looks for in acquisitions (recurring revenue, low owner dependency, scalable marketing), and how that compares to real estate's capped returns Top 3 Takeaways Sustainable success is driven by momentum, not a single “genius idea”—showing up consistently, tracking what works, and compounding small wins eventually creates the “overnight” avalanche. Who you surround yourself with matters: if your circle sits at “70 degrees,” they will unconsciously pull you back whenever you try to cool off or heat up, so keep upgrading your peer group and protect your mindset. Buying a business can be a faster path to income and upside than starting from zero, especially when you acquire existing cash flow, systems, and recurring revenue that can be scaled rather than built from scratch. Notable Quotes "A business doesn't succeed or fail because of a good idea or a bad idea—it lives or dies on momentum." "Consistent, imperfect execution beats a perfect strategy that never gets implemented—every single time." "If I were starting over today, I wouldn't start a business—I'd buy one and then grow the momentum that's already there." Connect with Charles Gaudet: Website: predictableprofits.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis catches up with his old friend Todd Lamb, founder of Pure Life Organics, a wellness brand that has generated over $100 million in gross revenue through direct response and DTC e‑commerce. Coming from nearly 20 years in policing—including K‑9, undercover surveillance, and leading a tactical team—Todd shares how a backyard “redneck margarita maker” on eBay pulled him into the online world, and how he navigated the evolution from info products and VSLs to a durable, compliant brand with repeat buyers and lean operations.​ On this episode we talk about: Todd's path from young dad to military, commercial diving, policing, and eventually leading a SWAT (tactical) team before retiring into entrepreneurship​ The first spark: building a DIY margarita machine, selling the plans on eBay in 2003, and realizing the internet could be a real business engine​ Launching fitness and jiu-jitsu funnels, the breakout success of Alpha and flat-belly tea, and the shift from all-affiliate direct response to owning the traffic and the brand​ The difference between direct response and e‑commerce—emotional VSLs versus longer-tail, brand-led journeys—and what that means for refunds, customer quality, and compliance​ Why Todd transitioned early into e‑com, how affiliate abuse blew up his domain reputation, and what it took to rebuild as a white-glove, exit-ready brand run lean by a small, trusted team​ Top 3 Takeaways A “safe” career and lack of entrepreneurial pedigree do not disqualify you; Todd built a nine-figure track record starting as a young dad in the military and then a career cop who experimented online in his spare time.​ Direct response can scale fast, but it comes with higher refunds, compliance risk, volatile affiliate traffic, and brand damage; shifting to thoughtful e‑commerce with strong customer experience creates long-term value and optionality for exit.​ Building lean with people you trust, focusing on LTV, repeat customers, and careful email practices turns a cash-flow machine into an asset that works whether or not you ever decide to sell.​ Notable Quotes "No house with a swimming pool is complete without a margarita maker—and that little eBay experiment made me realize what was possible online." "Direct response is like turning a stranger into a buyer in one emotional shot; e‑com is a longer, more elegant and thoughtful journey." "We stopped emailing for everyone else's offers; we only promote our own products because we want our customers to trust that when we show up, it's actually for their benefit." Connect with Todd Lamb: Website (Brand): https://purelifeorganics.com/ Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followtoddlamb/?hl=en ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis and Eric sit down for a candid conversation about how beginners should actually get started in real estate—without overthinking strategy or blindly trusting gurus. Drawing on Travis's own “real estate dabbler” experience and recent insights from billion‑dollar multifamily operator Veena Jetti, they break down mindset, risk, education, and why doing a small, imperfect first deal usually beats sitting on the sidelines. On this episode we talk about: Why there's so much conflicting advice on “where to start” (house hack, flip, small multifamily, or go straight to big apartments) Veena Jetti's perspective on skipping single‑family and going directly into multifamily—and when that's realistic versus paralyzing Creative ways to get into deals without being the one writing the big check, from finding and structuring deals to partnering and earning equity The risks of trusting operators you don't understand, the importance of knowing how the deal makes money, and why “just give it to the expert” can backfire How Airbnb shifted from easy arbitrage to a hospitality business, and why hotels and experiential short‑term rentals may now have the edge Top 3 Takeaways The best “first strategy” is the one you will actually execute; do a real deal—any reasonable, understandable deal—rather than spending years trying to pick the perfect niche. Never invest in a deal you can't clearly explain, especially when you're handing money to an operator; understand how value is created, where it can break, and what your actual risk is. Real estate is a business, not a magic passive ATM: whether it's multifamily, flips, or Airbnb, expect real work, real learning, and some paid tuition in the form of mistakes along the way. Notable Quotes "If you sit on the sidelines trying to decide your strategy for five years, you're losing money and time—go do something." "Don't assume that because someone knows more than you, they know everything; if you can't explain how the deal makes money, you shouldn't be wiring money into it." "Airbnb today is closer to running a hotel than owning a rental—it's hospitality, not a set‑and‑forget investment. ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis sits down with actor‑turned‑entrepreneur Ryan Rottman, cofounder of AthleteAgent.com, an IMDb‑style database for the sports world. From training as a business major and actor at Texas Tech to navigating constant rejection in Hollywood, Ryan shares how thick skin, relationships, and a love of sports led him to build the most extensive searchable sports database online, alongside partners like Aaron Rodgers and Nate Robb. On this episode we talk about: How Ryan's early trading and acting work out of college built the financial runway and mindset he needed to pursue creative projects What acting teaches about rejection, resilience, and treating yourself as a business—and how those lessons transfer directly into startups and fundraising The origin story of AthleteAgent.com, modeled after IMDb but built to centralize athlete data, representation info, and off‑field opportunities Why most athletes beyond the top 1% are massively under‑monetized, and how better visibility can unlock endorsements, podcast bookings, investments, and partnerships The realities of building a tech platform from scratch—finding dev teams, talking to 100+ investors, and expanding from 10 sports toward a global, 50+ sport footprint Top 3 Takeaways Acting and entrepreneurship share the same core skill: moving from “no” to “no” without losing enthusiasm, while treating every experience as training for the next opportunity. Athletes are brands, and most are dramatically under‑leveraged off the field; centralized, accurate data and contact info unlocks deals for the other 99%, not just superstars. Long‑term success often comes from repurposing skills and networks—Ryan used his IMDb experience, sports relationships, and business training to spot an obvious gap and fill it with AthleteAgent.com. Notable Quotes "As an actor, you are your own business—rejection is daily, and your job is to keep showing up until the right role hits." "IMDb changed my acting career because people could actually find my reps; I realized nothing like that existed for athletes." "We didn't build AthleteAgent for the top 1%—we built it so the other 99% can finally be found, booked, and paid." Connect with Ryan Rottman: Website (AthleteAgent): athleteagent.com Instagram: @ryanrottman ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis sits down with blockchain VC and founder Harvey Liu, a China-born computer science grad turned global investor who has backed and built in crypto since the early 2010s. Harvey shares how early bets on Apple, Google, Tesla, and Bitcoin shaped his philosophy, why he now builds long-term in his own exchange, and how everyday investors can navigate crypto volatility with less emotion and more strategy. On this episode we talk about: Harvey's journey from gaming-obsessed kid in China to computer scientist, MBA, and venture capitalist in Beijing's early crypto scene Early wins and regrets: buying Apple, Google, Tesla, and Bitcoin early—and selling far too soon Core lessons about long-term thinking, missing “basic financial knowledge,” and why he builds for durability instead of quick flips Why he's still bullish on Bitcoin as a hedge against inflation and government money-printing, despite current bearish price action Practical strategies like dollar-cost averaging, avoiding over-leverage, and how AI, CBDCs, and stablecoins may shape crypto's future Top 3 Takeaways Spotting disruptive tech early is powerful, but without deep understanding and a long-term framework, it's easy to sell too soon and miss the biggest upside. In a highly leveraged, volatile market like crypto, simple principles—no over-leverage, clear profit targets, and dollar-cost averaging—matter more than chasing the perfect entry. Bitcoin increasingly functions as “digital gold” and a hedge against inflation and fiat debasement, while stablecoins and CBDCs show how blockchain rails will power everyday money movement in the future. Notable Quotes "Taking profit at your set goals is never wrong—you don't go bankrupt by taking profit, you go bankrupt by over-leveraging." "Bitcoin started as a gamble when nobody understood it, but with institutions in the game it has become a long-term hedge against inflation and money printing." "In volatile markets, DCA and risk control beat trying to time the top or bottom—especially if you believe the asset will be here in 10 or 20 years." Connect with Harvey Liu: X: https://x.com/harveylevex levex.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

On this episode, Travis and producer Eric riff on the labels entrepreneurs use—CEO, founder, business owner, freelancer—and why most of that title‑drama is more about ego than impact. They dig into the real difference between owning a business and just owning your job, what it means to be a “wantrepreneur” versus an entrepreneur, and how to finally pull the trigger on the business you keep talking about starting. On this episode we talk about:   Why Travis doesn't care what people call themselves—CEO, founder, entrepreneur—and why titles rarely matter if you're doing the work   The practical difference between owning a true business and simply owning a job that can't run without you   How privilege and status games show up when people mock small business owners for using “big” titles   The idea of the “wantrepreneur” (someone who only reads, talks, and dreams about business but never starts)   How to set a deadline, ship something, and stop waiting for the mythical “perfect time” to launch Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Titles are mostly a distraction; what matters is whether the business can operate, produce value, and cash flow with or without you.2.  If your business completely depends on you to function, you don't yet own a business—you own a job, and you're still trading time for money.3.  If you know you want to be in business, set a clear launch date for a specific offer and execute; every month you delay is costing you time, money, and momentum. Notable Quotes   "Call yourself whatever you want—just do the work required to actually fill that role in the business."   "If your business can't run without you, you don't really own a business; you just own your job."   "You've got to be a wantrepreneur for a minute to think it through, but once you know this is your path, every month you don't act is just another month you're falling behind." ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Dr. Michael Housman is the founder and CEO of AI-ccelerator and the author of Future Proof: Transform Your Business with AI or Get Left Behind, where he helps organizations harness artificial intelligence to make better, faster, and less biased decisions. With a PhD in Applied Economics and Managerial Science from Wharton and an A.B. from Harvard, he has spent over 15 years architecting AI platforms across hiring, fraud detection, customer communications, and real estate lending—all while translating complex AI concepts into practical playbooks for business leaders. His work has been featured in major outlets like The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Economist, and The Atlantic, making him a rare blend of deep technical expertise and real-world business impact.​ On this episode we talk about: Why traditional hiring processes are riddled with bias, how data-driven models outperform “gut feel,” and surprising predictors of performance like browser choice and employment history patterns.​ How business owners can start using AI today to buy back time, automate repetitive work, personalize outreach at scale, and treat AI as a strategic thought partner instead of just a better search box.​ The core ideas behind Future Proof—why most AI content is too technical, how Michael translates it for non-technical leaders, and why ignoring AI now is like refusing to build a website or adopt social media 10–15 years ago.​​ How AI-ccelerator uses live keynotes and hands-on workshops to help teams build real outputs—like pitch decks and go-to-market plans—in 90 minutes instead of weeks.​ Where AI is headed next, how it will disrupt agencies and creative work, and why founders should imagine how a brand-new “AI-native” competitor would rebuild their business model from scratch.​ Top 3 Takeaways AI isn't just a tool for writing emails or posts; used correctly, it becomes a data-driven board member that helps you make sharper strategic decisions and challenge your own thinking.​ Companies that delay AI adoption risk being blindsided by AI-native competitors who use automation, synthetic data, and smarter decision systems to deliver better results at lower cost.​ The biggest barrier is not the technology but people—getting teams to experiment, build literacy, and embed AI into workflows so it actually drives revenue and efficiency.​ Notable Quotes “Algorithms, when designed correctly, don't care where you went to school or who you play squash with—they care whether you're actually the right fit for the job.”​ “Most leaders are using AI like a fancy spell-checker for emails when they should be treating it like a strategic thought partner sitting at the boardroom table.”​ “If you were starting your business from scratch today as an AI-native company, you'd design it completely differently—and that imaginary competitor is exactly who's coming for your lunch.”​ Connect with Dr. Michael Housman: Website: https://michaelhousman.com​ AI-ccelerator (consulting & education): https://ai-ccelerator.com​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this episode, Travis and producer Eric break down how to think about pricing across products and services so you stop guessing, undercharging, or racing competitors to the bottom. They walk through how to find a healthy price point, when to go premium instead of cheap, and why your rates should reflect the value and outcomes you deliver—not how long the work takes. On this episode we talk about: Why “charge what you're worth” is useless advice without understanding perceived value, buyer outcomes, and your actual close rate. How to think about pricing physical products, when to follow the market, and when to intentionally position yourself as the premium option. Using close-rate percentages as a feedback loop to know when you're underpriced, fairly priced, or simply bad at sales and positioning. Why hourly billing traps service providers and creatives, and how to shift into offer-based, results-based pricing instead. The importance of early testing, discounted beta clients, and iterating your prices up as demand and proof-of-results increase. Top 3 Takeaways Stop tying your prices to hours and start tying them to outcomes; clients pay for a result, not your calendar time. Use your sales close rate as a live diagnostic: very high close rates usually mean you're underpriced, not “amazing at sales.” Early on, treat your pricing as a test—get paying clients, prove the result, then ratchet prices up until you encounter meaningful resistance. Notable Quotes “There's no prize for being the second-cheapest option, but there is a real advantage to being the most expensive with a better offer.” “It doesn't matter if it takes you 30 minutes or three months—the value is the value, and the client is paying for the result.” “Selling your time by the hour lets people rent you; selling offers and outcomes is what eventually buys your time freedom.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Filmmaker and tech founder Drew Schettler shares how he went from a strictly ministerial college path and church media work to running a production company and building Atlas, a modern all‑in‑one workspace for filmmakers. He talks about learning business the hard way as a creative, navigating burnout and feast‑or‑famine freelance cycles, and then spending seven months using AI and no‑code tools to ship a real SaaS product for his own industry. On this episode we talk about:   Growing up in a ministry “bubble” and how Drew slowly leaned into photography and filmmaking   Building a freelance video business serving churches, nonprofits, and commercial clients   Discovering AI/no‑code app tools and deciding to build Atlas for filmmakers   Product–market fit, MVPs, and iterating based on user feedback instead of over‑polishing   Why creators need to think like entrepreneurs and how to escape the freelance hamster wheel Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Creatives who want to go full‑time have to think in systems, margins, and client outcomes—not just in terms of making beautiful work.2.  You do not need a massive dev team to validate a software idea; a scrappy, AI‑assisted MVP is enough to start selling and get real feedback.3.  The most sustainable path is often using your high‑ticket services as a cash‑flow engine while you build scalable products that can eventually overtake client work. Notable Quotes   "You have to lead with how you're solving the client's problem, not just how good your video looks."   "If everyone has the cheat codes with AI, it stops being cheating—it's just who executes better and faster."   "Most creatives are trying to impress other creatives instead of building something that actually moves the needle for a client." Connect with Drew Schettler: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drew.schettler/  https://atlasfilm.io/ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis and producer Eric break down the real skills behind meaningful networking, from first impressions and handshakes to group text intros and double opt-ins. They explore how to treat “networking” like making real friends, why bad introductions can damage trust, and how to thoughtfully connect people in a way that actually adds value. This episode is a tactical, relatable guide to becoming someone others are genuinely glad to meet and be introduced to. On this episode we talk about: Why basic body language, eye contact, and a simple “Hi, I'm Travis” beat over-rehearsed pitches when you meet someone new. How to navigate handshakes, daps, and hugs without creating awkward moments (or accidental crotch-hand sandwiches). Why networking events feel sleazy when you treat them like in‑person cold calling and how to shift into genuine curiosity and friendship-building. The right way to stay in touch—why business cards usually suck, and why Instagram or phone numbers are better for real follow‑up. How to make introductions the right way using “double opt‑in” intros, proper context, and thoughtful framing so both people feel respected and excited. Top 3 Takeaways Great first impressions are mostly about energy, body language, and making people feel good—not delivering the perfect elevator pitch. Treat networking like making friends: ask genuine questions, listen closely, look for common ground, and resist the urge to immediately pitch or sell. Introductions are powerful value-adds only when you get consent from both sides and frame the connection with context that makes each person look like the best version of themselves. Notable Quotes “People won't remember what you said, but they will remember how you made them feel after meeting you.” “Going to events and treating every human like a prospect is the fastest way to make sure nobody actually wants to talk to you.” “Always get the double opt‑in on intros—otherwise you're not adding value, you're just creating awkward obligations for your friends.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis sits down with his producer Eric for a fun, practical breakdown of whether speaking at events is actually worth it for entrepreneurs and creators. From horror-movie cold opens to hard-nosed math on time, travel, and ROI, this episode digs into when to say yes to a stage, when to walk away, and how to think about “paid to speak” vs “pay to speak” opportunities in a sane, strategic way. On this episode we talk about: Whether speaking at events is a vanity play or a real growth lever for your business How your goals (professional speaker vs business owner vs personal brand builder) change the calculus on saying yes to a stage The tradeoffs between local, niche rooms and big stages with thousands of people Hidden costs of speaking—travel, lost work time, opportunity cost—and how to factor them in When it can actually make sense to pay to be on stage and how to evaluate those offers like ad spend Top 3 Takeaways Speaking is almost always valuable if it aligns with a clear goal—professional speaking, lead gen, or brand building—but not every stage is worth your time. Quality of the room (who's in the audience, who's hosting, who's backstage) beats quantity of people; a small room of serious buyers can outperform a crowd of thousands. Paying to be on stage isn't inherently a scam—it's a marketing decision; you need clear numbers, clear expectations, and a plan to work the room and follow up afterward. Notable Quotes "It depends on your goal—if you want to be a professional speaker, you should be on any stage that'll have you." "Sometimes 22 multi-millionaires in a small room are a better use of time than 2,000 random people in an arena." "Once you're paying to speak, it's not magic anymore—it's just ad spend, and you've got to treat it like a marketing channel." ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Jimmy Rex is a top-producing former real estate agent who closed over 400 transactions in his final year in the business and built a portfolio of more than 50 investment properties. He now runs “We Are The They,” a men's mastermind and leadership group focused on helping high-performing entrepreneurs build better lives, not just bigger businesses, through experiences, coaching, and community. Jimmy is known for his relentless work ethic, his willingness to say what others won't, and his ability to both make money and put it to work through disciplined investing.​ On this episode we talk about: Growing up broke, getting the entrepreneurial itch early, and how selling lemonade and T‑shirts as a kid shaped Jimmy's sales mindset.​ Using a Mormon mission and door‑to‑door meat sales as “the world's greatest sales training program” and how that translated into real estate success.​ The exact prospecting systems, scripts, and daily routines that took Jimmy from a few closings to 60–98 homes per year and 400+ annual transactions with his team.​ Why most agents and entrepreneurs hide in “creative avoidance,” how to fall in love with boring consistency, and why a ruthless 3‑hour daily prospecting block changes everything.​ Lessons from losing big in private deals, why Jimmy now favors index funds and real estate over chasing “sexy” investments, and how he'd rebuild from zero in 2–3 years through sales.​ Top 3 Takeaways Boring, consistent effort beats talent; a simple plan executed every day—like 3 hours of focused prospecting—will outperform almost everyone who won't do the work.​ Sales is the most portable money-making skill; if you can sell and you're willing to outwork others, you can rebuild your life in any market or industry.​ For most people, slow and steady investing in real estate and broad index funds will outperform gambling on private deals, meme coins, or “hot” opportunities driven by FOMO.​ Notable Quotes “Successful people have merely learned to do the things that unsuccessful people don't want to do.”​ “Fall in love with the monotonous routine; the grind itself has to be the win, not just the outcome.”​ “If you're not making at least 200 grand a year, your best investment isn't the stock market—it's your own skills and your network.”​ Connect with Jimmy Rex: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmyrex​ Twitter/X: https://x.com/JimmyRex​ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrjimmyrex​​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this solo-style episode, Travis sits down with his producer Eric for an introspective conversation using the “rocking chair test,” a thought experiment where you imagine advice from your much older self at the end of your life. Instead of featuring an external guest, this episode turns the spotlight on Travis's own mindset around regret, failure, and what he wishes he'd stop (and keep) doing in business and life. On this episode we talk about: How the “rocking chair test” helps you see your current life from the perspective of your 88–108-year-old self Why most people regret what they didn't do more than what they did “wrong” Travis's tendency to downplay wins, fixate on failures, and how that has held him back How his upbringing and internalized beliefs still shape his self-talk and response to criticism The story of building a 7-figure business, losing it, and struggling to own his successes afterward Why podcasting is the thing he's most proud he stuck with, despite years of low direct financial return The tension between chasing novelty and doubling down on what you're genuinely great at Using your future self as a filter to judge fears about embarrassment, judgment, and starting over How meditating on death and limited time can create urgency to take bigger swings now Top 3 Takeaways Your future self will almost always regret the risks you never took more than the attempts that didn't work out. Fixating on failures while dismissing your wins can quietly cap your potential, even when you've built real results. Doubling down on your core strengths for income, while using side projects to satisfy curiosity and novelty, is a powerful way to build both wealth and fulfillment. Notable Quotes "I tend to significantly downplay the successes I've had and highlight the failures I've had, and that's held me back in a lot of ways." "People on their deathbed usually regret the things they didn't do far more than the things they did that didn't work out." "Life is short, and in 200 years none of this will matter—so why not just go for it and take another big swing?" ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Veena Jetti is the founding partner of Vive Funds, an innovative commercial real estate firm specializing in conservative investment opportunities. With over $1 billion in real estate transactions and a dynamic career that spans education, community building, and thought leadership, Veena brings a unique blend of deep market expertise and a passion for empowering new investors. As a multifamily syndicator, philanthropist, and Forbes Council Member, her story stands out for its hard-earned lessons, focus on abundance, and drive to create financial independence—especially for women.​​ On this episode we talk about: How Veena transitioned from single-family to multifamily real estate Mindset shifts required for successful investing The importance of joining networks and communities for growth Building wealth with limited capital and practical entry points Empowering women to build financial independence and legacy​​ Top 3 Takeaways Community and mentorship are the "easy button" for real estate success—being in the right rooms saves money and accelerates growth.​​ Mindset is the most significant barrier; overcoming analysis paralysis lets you take action and build wealth. Multifamily real estate is accessible to non-billionaires—start somewhere, build the right network, and leverage free educational resources.​​ Notable Quotes “The biggest problem with getting started in multifamily isn't money or knowledge—it's mindset. Overcoming overwhelm is key.”​ “Multifamily is a team sport. You need a community; doing deals alone is just riskier and slower.”​ “My focus for 2026 is teaching women how to achieve financial independence—money as power, not the end goal.”​ Connect with Veena Jetti: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veenajetti​ Twitter/X: https://x.com/veenajetti​ Instagram: https://instagram.com/veenajetti​ Website: https://vivefunds.com​

Dr. Michelle K. Johnston is a bestselling author, top executive coach, and leadership professor at Loyola University New Orleans who specializes in connection-driven leadership. She's the author of The Seismic Shift in Leadership and the new book The Seismic Shift in You, co-written with legendary coach Marshall Goldsmith, where she unpacks seven powerful shifts leaders must make to deepen connection and drive results in an AI-driven world.​ On this episode we talk about: Michelle's first “real” dollar, early jobs at Fuddruckers and a cookie shop, and what they taught her about people and money Why high-volume, people-facing jobs (restaurants, sales, customer service) are underrated training grounds for success The core ideas behind The Seismic Shift in Leadership and The Seismic Shift in You How AI and digital overload are changing leadership—and why “productivity without connection equals emptiness” The loneliness epidemic, why entrepreneurs (especially men) are so isolated, and how to intentionally build community Practical ways leaders can rewire meetings, calendars, and priorities around connection The concept of “connection dinners” and why entrepreneurs should curate rooms where people actually get real Top 3 Takeaways Connection is the new competitive advantage. Old-school command-and-control leadership no longer works; leaders who build cultures of connection outperform by creating trust, psychological safety, and real loyalty.​ You must connect with yourself first. If your own cup is empty—no self-care, no boundaries, no time on your calendar for what matters—you won't have the energy or presence to build meaningful relationships at work or at home.​ Entrepreneurship doesn't have to be lonely. By intentionally building community—through curated spaces, small-group dinners, and regular in-person connection—entrepreneurs can combat isolation and create the kind of support that fuels both impact and income.​ Notable Quotes "Productivity without connection equals emptiness." "You're not good at connecting with anybody unless you first prioritize yourself." "If your most important relationships aren't on your calendar, they're not really your priorities." Connect with Dr. Michelle Johnston: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-johnston-0264b5b​ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michellekjohnston  Website: https://michellekjohnston.com​ Podcast: The Seismic Shift with Michelle K. Johnston – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-seismic-shift-with-michelle-k-johnston/id1625361801​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Fernando Angelucci is a self-storage investor and syndicator who's transacted on over $200M worth of self-storage facilities across dozens of states in just six years. After starting in house painting, flipping, and multifamily, he ditched the “three T's” (tenants, toilets, trash) and went all-in on self storage, where he now specializes in wholesaling, value-add deals, and creative seller-financed structures—while spending most of the year living abroad.​ On this episode we talk about: Fernando's journey from immigrant parents and a Fortune 50 corporate job to full-time real estate investor How he used 60 credit cards and $97K in high-interest debt to launch his flipping business (and why he doesn't recommend it) Why he pivoted from flipping and rentals into self storage and what makes the asset class so attractive How to wholesale self-storage deals step-by-step, from building lists to skip tracing to talking with owners The key underwriting metrics he uses (supply index, price per square foot, occupancy, and competition) How he structures creative seller-financed deals (multiple offer structures, master lease options, and more) The importance of reps, rejection, accountability, and public goals in getting your first deal done Top 3 Takeaways Self storage is a powerful, scalable niche. With roughly two-thirds of facilities owned by mom-and-pop operators, there's a massive opportunity to buy under-managed properties, modernize operations (web presence, pricing, tech), and quickly increase NOI. Wholesaling self storage is a low-capital way to start. By buying data, skip tracing owners, building relationships, and assigning contracts, you can generate large fees without taking title or raising huge amounts of capital—while learning the business from inside the deal flow. Creative financing unlocks deals banks won't touch. By really listening to an owner's “why” (retirement income, grandkids' tuition, travel), you can craft seller-financed structures, second-position notes, and master leases that solve their problem and allow you to acquire cash-flowing assets with minimal money down. Notable Quotes “Once you get comfortable with people saying no and failure, then you just realize it's reps. That's all you gotta do—reps.” “If you're always 100% full, that's not a good thing in self storage. It means your rents are too low.” “Too many people rush to get a contract. Slow down and find the why behind the why—then structure the deal around that.” Connect with Fernando Angelucci: Website / Investing: https://ssse.com​​ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thestoragestud​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Travis is joined by his producer Eric for a rapid‑fire, no‑guest episode built around funny, candid questions about purchases, regrets, and money habits. Eric keeps Travis on his toes, pushing him to “bring the receipts” on everything from embarrassing Amazon orders to the masterminds and franchises he has invested in.​ On this episode we talk about: The most embarrassing Amazon purchases Travis would hate to see leaked. Under‑$50 buys (like “The Almanack of Naval Ravikant”) that genuinely improved his life.​ The pricey Vegas group dinner he barely ate at and instantly regretted. Subscriptions and trials (sports, streaming, live TV) that keep renewing long after they're useful.​ “Boring” purchases like chargers, docks, and phone accessories that quietly deliver value every day. Early‑20s mistakes like buying a brand‑new car versus a lightly used one. How much money Travis has ultimately spent with past podcast guests through masterminds, investments, and franchises.​ Top 3 Takeaways Paying for experiences or group status you do not actually enjoy (like a late‑night Vegas dinner you barely touch) is one of the fastest ways to waste money and energy. The best purchases are often unsexy: books that change how you think, tech that reduces daily friction, and used cars that avoid the steepest depreciation curve.​ Recurring subscriptions and “free trials” can quietly drain thousands over time, so using reminders, assistants, or apps to cancel aggressively is a simple but powerful money move.​ Notable Quotes "It felt like I paid $100 a bite for that dinner—and I still left hungry." "I used to think eating out was a splurge; now the real flex is not wasting cash on stuff that doesn't move the needle." "Money only solves your money problems, but it is a lot easier to solve everything else when you actually have some in the bank."​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Jesse and Gabi Merl are a married power couple who rebuilt from bankruptcy and six-figure student loan debt to consistent multi–six-figure months through content, social selling, and smart investing. Jesse is a multi-exit tech entrepreneur turned YouTube creator behind “Jesse ON FIRE,” while Gabi is a hormone and cortisol-focused coach and social seller who built a thriving business from scratch using short-form content.​​ On this episode we talk about: How Jesse went from teen restaurant jobs to real estate, loans, a sports gaming startup, and ultimately a brutal acquisition that wiped out his stock and forced bankruptcy What it was like for Gabi to be pregnant with their third child, unable to practice acupuncture in a new state, and staring down six-figure student loans while deciding to jump into social selling How they rebuilt from absolute zero to over $140K/month in combined income by focusing on liquid wealth, real estate, and avoiding flashy lifestyle creep The content strategies behind “Jesse ON FIRE” and Gabi's Instagram/TikTok growth: niche selection, volume, repelling to attract, and showing up as an amplified version of yourself on camera Why most creators fail because they underestimate the time horizon (at least a year) and posting volume required before platforms reward them with real reach Top 3 Takeaways Rebuilding from zero is possible if you're willing to kill your ego, take the “soul-sucking” job when necessary, and then methodically build leverage through content and business again. Platforms reward consistency and volume; think in terms of posting multiple times per day for months, not a few posts per month, and commit to at least a year before expecting meaningful traction. The fastest way to stand out is to be specific: know your avatar, be willing to repel the wrong audience to attract the right one, and tell your story like you're talking to close friends—just slightly amplified for the camera. Notable Quotes "You have to repel to attract; if no one is a little mad, no one is truly magnetized to you." "The platforms are testing if you're going to be a consistent creator before they give you reach." "Content is just building relationships at scale—one story, one reaction, one video at a time." Connect with Jesse & Gabi Merl: YouTube (Jesse): https://www.youtube.com/@RealJesseONFIRE​ Twitter/X (Jesse): https://twitter.com/realjesseonfire​ Instagram (Jesse): https://www.instagram.com/realjesseonfire​ Instagram (Gabi): https://www.instagram.com/gabriellecarolyn​ TikTok (Gabi): https://www.tiktok.com/@gabriellecarolyn​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

On this episode, Travis Chappell sits down with his producer Eric for a fun but revealing “check your contacts” game that exposes how much your network shapes your opportunities, decisions, and problem-solving capacity. Instead of focusing on tactics alone, they use real names from Travis's phone to unpack what makes a relationship actually valuable beyond social proof or status.​ On this episode we talk about: The one professional contact Travis would keep if he had to delete everyone else from his phone Who he'd bet $1,000 will pick up the phone every time he calls Which friend he hasn't talked to in years but knows would still show up if he needed help The first “celebrity” and first true household-name contact that made his network feel different Who he'd choose as his only coach if he had to start a new business tomorrow The worst “client” call of his career and the red flags it revealed The best call he's ever received and how it turned into a defining podcast interview moment Why your network multiplies your ability to solve problems, Henry Ford–style Top 3 Takeaways A contact is only as valuable as their willingness to respond; reliability and generosity matter more than fame or follower count. Strong relationships built over years—even with long gaps in communication—can still be some of the most dependable when life or business goes sideways. Your network is a force multiplier: like Henry Ford and modern ultra-learners, you do not need to know everything yourself if you can quickly reach people who are true experts in their domains. Notable Quotes "Your contacts are only as good as the people who actually text back and pick up when it counts." "You can solve bigger and more complex problems when you know who to call, not just what to do." "Your contact list will largely dictate how successful and how helpful you are in life—so don't neglect the work of building real relationships." ✖️✖ ✖️

In this solo episode of the Travis Makes Money Podcast, Travis and his producer Eric react to a hot take by John Gafford. John Gafford is a highly successful entrepreneur in the Las Vegas metropolitan area and a recognized authority in the real estate industry. Before venturing into real estate, he carved out a remarkable path as an entrepreneur, leaving a lasting impact across various industries including hospitality, insurance, and technology. His extensive experience and visionary leadership in real estate have made him a popular podcast host and he is frequently called upon as a contributor, speaker, and consultant, sharing his wealth of knowledge and insights with others in the industry. ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

French-Canadian real estate investor, designer, and developer Natalie Cloutier shares how she and her husband Rob went from broke 20-year-olds in a basement condo to building 50+ rental units and a multimillion-dollar portfolio using a no-money-down build-to-rent strategy. With a background in architectural technology and a focus on new construction, Natalie has turned sweat equity and creative financing into a full-time business, and recently distilled her approach into her book, “The Build-to-Rent Strategy: A Guide to a Successful Rental Property Construction.”​ On this episode we talk about: How Natalie and Rob built their first home and basement rental suite with essentially $0 down using sweat equity and construction financing The mechanics of build-to-rent/“BRRR 2.0”: Build, Rent, Refinance, Repeat—and how it differs from the traditional BRRR strategy What work they took on themselves vs. what they always hired out (electrical, drywall, finishes vs. structural, foundation, and plumbing) Why they prefer smaller infill projects like six-plexes instead of large, high-risk developments with heavy permitting costs How they manage leverage, cash flow targets per door, and why they're choosing to pause, de-stress, and reassess what “enough” looks like after a decade of grinding Top 3 Takeaways You do not always need 20% down to get into real estate—using construction-to-perm style loans, sweat equity, and smart design, you can create deals by building rather than competing for existing inventory. Staying intentionally underleveraged and focusing on real cash flow per unit is often safer than chasing maximum refinancing or unit count, especially in volatile interest-rate environments. Your portfolio should support your life, not the other way around; periodically pausing to evaluate stress, health, and family priorities is just as important as growing doors or equity. Notable Quotes "We didn't have money, so instead of buying someone else's house, we built our own and used our work as the down payment." "BRRR 2.0 is the same idea as BRRR, but instead of ‘Buy, Renovate, Rent, Refinance, Repeat,' it's ‘Build, Rent, Refinance, Repeat.'" "It's not about how many units you own; it's about how much money those properties actually make and whether the grind is worth it for your life." Connect with Natalie Cloutier: linktr.ee/thenewbuildcouple ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this episode, Travis and producer Eric react to a viral video from Vivian Tu (“Your Rich BFF”) breaking down three popular “get rich quick” strategies that actually cost most people money: whole life insurance as an investment, day trading, and “passive” side hustles like wholesale real estate, Amazon dropshipping, and affiliate marketing. They use the clip as a springboard to talk about discipline, risk, and why most people should stick to simple, boring money moves instead of gambling their future on complex schemes they barely understand.​ Top 3 Takeaways For most people, the simplest play—buy term life insurance for protection and invest consistently in diversified, long-term stock market holdings—beats complicated insurance and trading schemes. Day trading is statistically stacked against you; unless you treat it like gambling with true “play money,” your odds of long-term success are far worse than just buying and holding quality assets. “Passive income” buzzwords around real estate, dropshipping, and affiliate marketing hide the reality that these are real businesses requiring time, effort, and often capital—especially when you're just getting started. Notable Quotes "If you're just starting out, whole life and infinite banking shouldn't even be on your radar—it's a distraction sold hard because the commissions are huge." "Don't pretend you're an expert trader when even the best hedge fund managers in the world tell you not to time the market." "People keep looking at these advanced strategies as the thing that'll make them rich, instead of realizing they only really make sense once you're already rich."​

Rachel Zaslansky Sheer and Lori Zuker Briller are the co-founders of The Grapevine, a premier corporate and domestic staffing firm known for placing top-tier talent with high-profile executives, households, and leading companies. With 20+ years of recruiting experience across entertainment, tech, finance, real estate, fashion, and more, they've built a referral-driven “job matchmaking” agency and recently coauthored “Straight From the Grapevine: How to Crush Your Job Search,” a practical guide to modern career strategy and job hunting. Their backgrounds as former entertainment assistants and development executives give them a rare, inside-out view of both sides of the hiring table—what makes candidates stand out and what employers actually need.​ Top 3 Takeaways Early, “small” jobs matter: they build work ethic, professionalism, and people skills that compound into better opportunities, references, and confidence later in your career. Great candidates treat every role like it matters—showing up with excellence, initiative, and a good attitude—because that's how you get noticed, recruited, and referred into the dream jobs you actually want. In today's noisy job market, understanding how recruiting really works, presenting a sharp résumé, and mastering basic etiquette (clear emails, context, professionalism) are major unfair advantages. Connect with Rachel & Lori (The Grapevine): ​https://www.thegrapevineagency.com/

In this episode, Travis and producer Eric dive into breaking sports media news: ESPN and Penn Entertainment unwinding their $2 billion, 10-year ESPN Bet partnership just two years after launch and pivoting into a new multi-year deal with DraftKings. They unpack what this says about ESPN's fading dominance, DraftKings' position as the default sportsbook brand, and how Barstool founder Dave Portnoy continues to land on his feet after Penn sold Barstool back to him and rebranded to ESPN Bet. Along the way, they draw parallels to Disney's evolving “family-friendly” branding strategy, the broader shift from legacy TV to social-first sports media, and why product quality and user behavior matter more than just a big name.​​ On this episode we talk about: The stunning early termination of the ESPN–Penn Entertainment $2B, 10-year ESPN Bet deal, effective December 1, 2025, after ESPN Bet failed to crack meaningful market share.​ Why ESPN Bet reportedly struggled to get above ~5% market share and never hit “top three” sportsbook status despite ESPN's massive brand and distribution.​ Penn's prior Barstool Sports era, regulatory pushback tied to Portnoy's persona, and how Penn sold Barstool back to Dave Portnoy as it pivoted to the ESPN Bet rebrand.​​ Portnoy's reaction on his own show, why he thinks time will tell if this is a good move for DraftKings, and his hint that Disney CEO Bob Iger made unflattering comments about Barstool behind the scenes.​ How Disney's move from “no R-rated content” on Disney+ to hosting edgier, R-rated films via the Hulu integration shows a slow but real shift away from a strictly squeaky-clean image.​ Why even a giant like ESPN can't just slap its logo on a product and win—especially when users already love DraftKings and other established betting apps.​ The rise of social-native sports brands like House of Highlights and Barstool Sports, and how short-form content has replaced traditional SportsCenter viewing for many fans.​​ Jake Paul's “Betr” (Better) and other creator-led betting and media plays, and how having the ear of younger fans changes the balance of power in sports media.​ Why product quality, UX, and habit lock-in often beat legacy branding, even when legacy outlets still dominate live rights and TV distribution.​ A quick detour into the best sports movies of all time—Hoosiers, Remember the Titans, Warrior, Rocky, Moneyball, and more—and what they reveal about the nostalgia we still attach to sports storytelling. Top 3 Takeaways Big legacy brands like ESPN and Disney can no longer rely on their name alone; in crowded categories like sports betting, sticky products and fan-favorite platforms like DraftKings are extremely hard to displace.​ Controversial personalities like Dave Portnoy can create regulatory and brand headaches, but they also build cult followings and resilient IP—Barstool's rebound and Portnoy's “$1 buyback” remain a masterclass in leverage.​​ The future of sports attention is social-first and creator-driven: fans increasingly get their highlights, hot takes, and sometimes even betting cues from digital-native brands rather than traditional TV networks.​​

Rod Khleif is a Dutch immigrant, multifamily investor, and high-performance mentor who has owned over 2,000 single-family homes and thousands of apartment units across the U.S. He hosts “Lifetime Cash Flow Through Real Estate Investing,” one of the largest commercial real estate podcasts, where he teaches investors how to use multifamily, senior housing, and other commercial assets to create long-term wealth. After watching his net worth jump $17 million in 2006 and then losing roughly $50 million in the 2008–09 crash, Rod rebuilt by focusing on mindset, goal setting, and identity work—turning that “seminar” into a blueprint he now shares with students worldwide.​ On this episode we talk about: Rod's journey from broke Dutch immigrant kid in Denver to watching his mom buy a $30,000 rental that appreciated $20,000 and realizing real estate could change his life. Getting his broker's license at 18, struggling for two years, then jumping to over $100k in income after discovering the power of mindset, psychology, and the right mentor. Building a massive portfolio of single-family and multifamily properties, seeing his net worth rise by $17 million in one year, and then losing around $50 million in the 2008 crash. How Rod reframed that loss as a “$50 million seminar,” refused to let real estate become his identity, and used aggressive goal setting and identity statements to rebuild. The current state of commercial real estate, including distressed multifamily deals due to interest rate shocks, emerging opportunity in senior housing/assisted living, and why he's cautious on office but bullish on other asset classes. Top 3 Takeaways Your business is just a vehicle—if it fails, you are not a failure; separating identity from outcomes is essential if you want to recover from big losses and take bigger swings. Clear, emotionally charged goals combined with “I am” identity statements and massive action create the momentum needed to push through fear, limiting beliefs, and comfort zones. Right now is a rare window for prepared buyers in commercial real estate and small business acquisitions, with distressed multifamily assets and retiring Baby Boomer owners creating outsized opportunities. Notable Quotes "They're only failures if you don't get back up—otherwise they're just very expensive seminars." "Anything you put the words ‘I am' in front of becomes an identity statement, and your life will rise or fall to match it." "Don't fear failure; fear regret—because not living the life you're capable of is the real nightmare." Connect with Rod Khleif: Rodkhleif.com Rodspodcast.com

In this episode, Travis Chappell dives into the mindset shifts that separate effective salespeople from those who plead for clients' attention. With a focus on the photography industry as a case study, he breaks down common mistakes creatives make when marketing their services and shares actionable strategies to connect authentically with clients. On this episode we talk about: The difference between pitching yourself and pleading for validation in business How creative entrepreneurs often overemphasize their personal passion in marketing Techniques to discover what clients truly want through effective questioning Why building trust can sometimes mean turning away business Applying sales lessons from photography to any industry Top 3 Takeaways Stop making your marketing about how much you love what you do—focus on the value you provide to clients. Ask questions first to uncover client pain points, then tailor your pitch to solve their specific problems. Building trust may require walking away from business that isn't a fit, which can lead to stronger opportunities later. Notable Quotes "At a certain point, it shifts from 'I love what I do' to 'hire me so I'll feel fulfilled,' and it can easily turn into ‘pick me.'" "Your craft speaks for itself—focus your conversations on the client's experience, not your personal fulfillment." "If you can better explain somebody's problem to them than they can, they'll automatically assume you have the solution." ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric delve into how Gen Z approaches financial advice, heavily relying on social media platforms for guidance. They discuss the impact of the lack of traditional financial education, how social media has democratized access to financial info, and the risks and benefits of following influencers online. The episode highlights generational differences in financial behavior, trust in advice sources, and the crucial role of critical thinking in navigating abundant but sometimes misleading digital financial content. On this episode we talk about: Gen Z's preference for social media as a source of financial advice over traditional education.​ The top platforms Gen Z uses for finance info: YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, X (Twitter), and Facebook.​ Most searched personal finance topics by Gen Z: budgeting, taxes, credit card debt, wealth building, and student loans.​ The prevalence of financial scams on social media and how it affects young people's trust.​ The importance of discerning credible advice from marketing and misinformation.​ Generational differences in financial interests and skepticism, especially regarding crypto and MLMs.​ Why building trust through consistent, unbiased financial content is crucial for long-term influence.​ Top trusted sources for financial advice: parents/family, financial institutions, and friends.​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Social media is a dominant channel for Gen Z's financial education but requires strong critical thinking skills due to misinformation risk.​2.  Budgeting and credit card debt are central concerns for young people starting their financial journeys.​3.  Trusted advice still comes mainly from family and well-established financial institutions, highlighting the ongoing role of personal relationships.​ Notable Quotes   "77% of Gen Z actively seek financial advice on social media, but a quarter have been scammed there."​   "Social media advice can be positive if you know how to sift through noise and marketing gimmicks."​   "Trust comes from giving consistent value without direct financial incentives."​ Connect with Travis Makes Money:   Website: travischappell.com​   Instagram: @travischappell​   YouTube: Travis Makes Money​ ✖️✖️✖️

Brandon Steiner, known as the king of sports memorabilia, shares his journey from a sports-crazed Brooklyn kid with $4,000 to a transformative figure in sports marketing. As founder and president of Collectible Exchange and Steiner Sports, Brandon discusses how he revolutionized the memorabilia industry and built a $50 million empire with exclusive partnerships with legendary athletes like Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, and Muhammad Ali. He reflects on the fundamentals of business, the importance of delivering value, and the power of genuine relationships in building a successful sports marketing business. On this episode we talk about: Brandon's early entrepreneurial experience and lessons from working at top companies before starting his own business.​ The creation and growth of Steiner Sports, focusing on fundamentals, customer value, and brand loyalty.​ The process of building relationships with influential clients based on giving value first and expecting nothing in return.​ The founding of Collectible Exchange to help collectors manage and sell their memorabilia efficiently.​ Advice for young entrepreneurs on fundamentals, resilience, and maintaining authenticity in business.​ The critical role of enthusiasm and faith in persevering through challenges and competition.​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Strong foundational business principles and fundamentals are key to long-term success.​2.  Building authentic, value-driven relationships fosters sustainable business growth.​3.  Passion combined with strategic giving and resilience creates lasting influence and opportunity.​ Notable Quotes   "Making money is easy; staying authentic and keeping your brand on track is the hard part."​   "Put yourself in the customer's shoes to understand what they really need."​   "Do as much as you can for as many people as you can, as often as you can, and expect nothing back."​ Connect with Brandon Steiner:   Website and Books: brandonsteiner.com​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this episode, Travis shares a personal story about his experience with a challenging out-of-state real estate flip that resulted in a significant loss initially, but also valuable lessons for long-term investing and property management. He discusses the complexities of managing properties from afar, unexpected costs like property taxes, and the emotional factors that influence buying and selling decisions. The episode also covers practical advice for navigating real estate investments, including the importance of local market knowledge and having trustworthy property managers. On this episode we talk about: The risks of out-of-state real estate investing and the need for trusted local support.​ Unexpected expenses like property tax increases after ownership transfer.​ How market timing can be unpredictable and the value of long-term holding.​ Strategies for managing rental properties, including using mother-in-law suites and Airbnb for supplemental income.​ Emotional aspects of real estate decisions versus logical financial planning.​ Practical tips for those new to real estate investing, especially regarding boots-on-the-ground knowledge.​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Out-of-state real estate investing demands extensive local market knowledge and trustworthy management to mitigate risks.​2.  Unexpected costs, such as increased property taxes, can drastically affect profitability.​3.  Long-term holding of properties often outperforms attempts to time the market, especially with a reliable tenant paying the mortgage.​ Notable Quotes   "Better research could have avoided a lot of this loss—I didn't know what I didn't know at the time."​   "You can't time the market; buy real estate and wait—it will be worth more in the future."​   "If you can afford it, holding properties even without a tenant can be like putting money into a savings account that grows."​ ✖️✖️✖️

Stefan Feuerstein is a leadership expert recognized by Oprah Winfrey as part of her inaugural Super Soul 100 list of awakened leaders elevating humanity. With over two decades of high-stakes leadership experience in humanitarian and private sectors, Stefan has led thousands globally. He is the author of the book "ABC Delegation," which teaches managers and leaders how to leverage delegation to drive engagement, accountability, and outsized returns in business and life. On this episode we talk about: Stefan's early experiences and the life-altering impact of humanitarian work in Honduras that shaped his leadership philosophy​ The power of mentorship and how leaders can grow through mutual development relationships​ Stefan's ABC Delegation system: clarifying responsibilities and commitments to foster team performance and autonomy​ How managers can avoid micromanaging and empower teams with trust and accountability​ The high cost of disengagement in teams and how effective delegation can reverse that trend​ Practical advice for leaders on communication, responsibility, and fostering growth in employees​ Why decision-making and unique human perspectives remain crucial in the age of AI and automation​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Delegation is a key leverage point for business growth, built on clear responsibilities and mutual accountability.​2.  Active mentorship and genuine listening transform team engagement and individual performance.​3.  Managers who avoid investing time in delegation risk costly disengagement and turnover within their teams.​ Notable Quotes   "Your responsibility is to comply with this. In exchange, I will help you grow and give you more responsibility."​   "If you're not doing this, your team is disengaging, and that's very expensive for you."​   "Delegation is not just about tasks; it's about how we interact daily to drive results and growth."​ Connect with Stefan Feuerstein:   Website and Book: https://abcdelegation.com​   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefan-feuerstein-0b35a7117​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

This episode features a lighthearted and insightful conversation between Travis and his producer Eric, blending humor with practical advice about managing business finances. They discuss the importance of tracking net profit and operating expenses as critical financial metrics, the challenges of cash flow management, and the nuances of personal versus business finance. Through witty banter and relatable stories, they explore how founders can improve their financial literacy and make smarter decisions for their businesses. On this episode we talk about: Why net profit has become the most important metric for business sustainability​ Balancing cutting costs with increasing income to optimize profitability​ The significance of managing cash flow carefully and strategically over time​ How personal financial management differs from business finance in priorities and metrics​ The value of engaging a fractional CFO or accountant early to build financial competency​ Fun anecdotes and humor about business, subscription spaces, and conference jokes​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Net profit and operating expenses are key indicators of business health and require close monitoring.​2.  Proper cash flow management means timing payments to maintain a clear financial picture and operational flexibility.​3.  Engaging financial experts as coaches can accelerate financial understanding and avert costly mistakes.​ Notable Quotes   "The only place where they celebrate high churn would be at like a butter convention."​   "Managing cash flow is one of the most underrated parts of running your business."​   "Charge enough to overdeliver for your customers because it always costs more to deliver than you expect."​ Connect with Travis Makes Money:   Website: travischappell.com​   Instagram: @travischappell​   YouTube: Travis Makes Money​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Matt Putra is a fractional CFO and founder of Eightx, specializing in helping e-commerce and consumer packaged goods (CPG) companies scale profitably and sustainably. With over a decade of experience, Matt has supported businesses generating $5 million to $100 million in revenue, expertly managing cash flow, raising capital, and building financial systems that empower founders to make data-driven decisions confidently. On this episode we talk about: Matt's unconventional path to becoming a CFO, including working in manufacturing and private equity before founding Eightx​ The challenges and strategies for scaling a business that heavily depends on personal expertise and trust​ Why Matt chose e-commerce and CPG niches and how he built his client base primarily through LinkedIn and referrals​ The importance of setting and tracking key financial metrics tailored to each business team for proactive management​ Managing cash flow with weekly 13-week forecasts to foresee and handle financial challenges​ Taking calculated financial risks as a founder and balancing ambition with cash flow realities​ Advice for founders on understanding finance versus outsourcing critical financial functions​ How Matt continues to build and scale Eightx with a growing team of CFOs, analysts, and accountants​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Key financial metrics and consistent cash flow forecasting are crucial tools for business longevity and scaling.​2.  Scaling a fractional CFO business requires careful hiring and trust-building with skilled financial professionals.​3.  Founders should focus on core finance understanding but outsource complex financial functions to experts like fractional CFOs.​ Notable Quotes   "If you can figure out your top 20 financial metrics, you're very likely to succeed."​   "The most boring activity that exists in finance today is updating your 13-week cash flow forecast every week, but it makes you a better cash flow manager."​   "Charge enough to overdeliver for your customers because it will cost more to deliver on your promises than you expect."​ Connect with Matt Putra:   LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/mattputra​   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattwjputra/​   Website (Eightx): https://eightx.co​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

This episode features a candid conversation between Travis and his producer Eric, diving into the realities of investing in organic content creation for business growth. They unpack the costs, strategies, and mindset shifts required to build a successful content engine, using real-world examples from comedians and entrepreneurs to illustrate the importance of budgeting for organic growth. On this episode we talk about: The hidden costs behind successful comedians and podcasters who appear to “do it all themselves”​ The importance of investing in content creation, editing, and social media management for long-term business growth​ How paid advertising and organic content work together to build a brand and drive results​ The value of outsourcing tasks to free up time for high-impact activities​ Real numbers from top creators, including how much they spend monthly on organic content​ The trade-offs between doing everything yourself and hiring experts to scale your business​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Organic content creation is not free—successful creators invest heavily in teams and tools to produce and distribute content.​2.  Outsourcing non-core tasks allows entrepreneurs to focus on what they do best, maximizing both time and revenue.​3.  Building a brand through organic content pays exponential returns over time, far outpacing paid advertising alone.​ Notable Quotes   "It's not just because he says good stuff. It's because he spends multi six figures a month on content creation."​   "You have to do it. It's not a negotiable for anybody now."​   "The more content you put out online, the more ability AI has to be able to suggest your stuff."​ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Julee Gracey is a certified business coach, speaker, and author specializing in building confidence, overcoming self-doubt, and empowering entrepreneurs to unlock personal and financial freedom. Her background spans international modeling, TV hosting, and multimillion-dollar real estate deals, bringing an edge and authenticity to her work with high-achieving business owners and those seeking practical transformation. Her book, "Highly Confident," encapsulates her coaching philosophy and actionable frameworks for living and working boldly.​ On this episode we talk about: How Julee started her first business as a crafty kid selling wire rings in elementary school​ The lessons of growing up with hardworking, entrepreneurial parents and early confidence-building experiences​ Breaking away from the traditional life path, taking risks, and building a modeling career that led to TV and business coaching​ The real story behind being a briefcase model on Deal or No Deal and why money decisions matter​ Why confidence and courage are developed through action, not just positive thinking or "mirror affirmations"​ The connection between physical discipline, health, and showing up confidently in every part of life​ The role of boundaries, saying “no,” and not overextending yourself as a leader and entrepreneur​ How Julee's coaching and her book teach decision frameworks that help clients clarify goals, overcome imposter syndrome, and build lasting confidence​ Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Confidence is built by taking courageous action and learning through small wins, not just by waiting for permission.​2.  Physical health and movement directly influence confidence and business performance—a disciplined body supports a focused mind.​3.  Setting clear boundaries and learning to say “no” is essential for sustainable success and healthy relationships.​ Notable Quotes   "If you're going to fail, fail spectacularly—do it really big and glorious."​   "Confidence does not come from shouting self-affirmations in the mirror. It comes from showing up and doing the work."​   "People don't want the overextended, stressed-out version of you."​ Connect with Julee Gracey: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juleegracey/ Website: https://juleegracey.com​ Book: highlyconfidentbook.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this episode, Travis and Eric break down the viral news about Donald Trump's floated idea of introducing 50-year mortgages. They unpack the financial realities, the math, the pros and cons, and why this proposed change sent shockwaves through social media—especially in the real estate world. From bank incentives to equity timelines to whether long-term loans actually help buyers, this is a practical and surprisingly entertaining deep dive into what the future of homebuying could look like. ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

Today's guest is Ben Zweig — economist, data scientist, founder of Revelio Labs, and NYU Stern professor specializing in the future of work. With a PhD in economics and a career spanning IBM's Chief Analytics Office, hedge fund strategy, and groundbreaking research on labor markets and occupational mobility, Ben brings a rare blend of academic rigor and real-world insight. His work allows him to see patterns in the job market before they happen — and understand where the biggest opportunities to make money are emerging. On this episode we talk about: Ben's first sales job on the streets of New York and how “rejection therapy” shaped his career Why thick skin and empathy are two of the most valuable skills in any high-paying field How economics became the lens Ben uses to understand behavior, markets, and opportunity Why getting a PhD changes your identity — and how deep expertise creates new income paths The evolving nature of work and what signals actually matter for future money-making trends Top 3 Takeaways Sales skills compound everywhere. Early experiences dealing with rejection and reading people become an unfair advantage in higher-paying industries. Economics is a framework for decision-making. Understanding incentives, equilibrium, and behavioral patterns helps you spot opportunities others miss. Deep expertise transforms your earning potential. Immersing yourself in a field — academically or professionally — shifts how you think and positions you for unique career paths. Connect with Ben Zweig: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-zweig Website: https://www.reveliolabs.com/ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

Omnisend Website:  https://www.omnisend.comChris Discount Link: https://www.omnisend.com/chris-erthelBend Stretching App: https://bend.com/In this episode of the Happiness Podcast with Chris Erthel, Chris sits down with Rytis Lauris, CEO and co-founder of Omnisend, to explore what it means to build a business that supports happiness both in its customers and its people. They dive into leadership, team culture, purpose-driven growth, and how technology can serve meaning, not just metrics.Whether you're an entrepreneur, a leader at a growing company, or someone curious about how work and happiness intersect, this episode offers actionable insight and inspiring stories. Tune in to hear how Rytis and Chris unpack what it takes to build something successful and fulfilling.

On this episode, Travis sits down with Sebastien Page, author of The Psychology of Leadership and Chief Investment Officer at T. Rowe Price. With over 20 years of experience managing $500 billion in assets, Sebastien brings deep insight into finance, leadership, and performance psychology. He combines academic research, practical investing experience, and a passion for teaching financial literacy to provide unique perspectives on money, stress, and personal growth. On this episode we talk about: Sebastien's early experiences making money and the influence of his parents on his financial mindset. How to teach kids about money, compound interest, and investing in a way that sticks. The psychology of stress and how to use it to improve performance rather than avoid it. Lessons from sports psychology applied to leadership and high-stakes decision-making. Surprising insights from research on intelligence, grit, and lifelong financial success. Top 3 Takeaways Understanding and optimizing stress is crucial for peak performance—stress isn't the enemy, it can be fuel. Teaching children financial literacy early creates lasting habits and empowers them to make smarter decisions. Success in life and money is influenced more by personality, resilience, and grit than raw intelligence. Connect with Sebastien Page: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastien-page Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sebastienpagebook/ Other: Book: The Psychology of Leadership ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

In this episode, Travis Chappell is joined by his producer Eric. Together, they break down some of the wildest viral success clips on the internet—from astrology-based basketball theories to Grant Cardone proclaiming you “can't live” on $400K a year—and explore the real lessons hiding underneath the noise. On this episode we talk about: Why absurd “success hacks” go viral, including the astrology clip about Michael Jordan The difference between motivation, marketing, and manipulation in the online guru world Whether Grant Cardone is right—or way off—when he says $400K isn't enough How polarizing personalities weaponize attention for growth What “thinking bigger” actually means (and what it doesn't) Top 3 Takeaways Viral guru content often succeeds because it's theatrical, not because it's true. Income numbers are meaningless without personal context—freedom math > flex math. You can embrace big thinking without adopting the extremes or gimmicks of online gurus. ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

Nelson Repenning and Don Kieffer are longtime collaborators and professors at the MIT Sloan School of Management. With nearly 30 years of combined research, leadership experience, and hands-on work inside major organizations, they specialize in fixing broken systems, developing leaders, and helping teams operate at peak performance. They are co-authors of the new book There's Got to Be a Better Way, a practical, field-tested guide to improving how people work. On this episode we talk about: How Nelson and Don each earned their very first dollar Why early childhood experiences shape lifelong money habits Practical ways parents can teach kids about money today The surprising paths that led both professors into higher education How a chance meeting at Harley-Davidson sparked a 30-year collaboration Why fixing knowledge work is harder than fixing factory work The origin story behind their new book and why it finally came together What teaching leaders revealed about how people actually learn Why improving work makes companies more profitable and people happier Top 3 Takeaways Improving work isn't about grinding harder — it's about designing systems that allow people to succeed. Kids learn more from watching how adults handle money than from any formal lesson. Long-term collaboration thrives when partners bring different strengths but share the same mission. Notable Quotes “If you want better results, you don't fix the people — you fix the work.” “Kids learn about money by seeing how you treat it, not by what you tell them.” “The moment we started teaching our ideas, we realized how much more we had to learn.” Purchase a Copy of "There's Got To Be a Better Way" https://www.amazon.com/Theres-Got-Be-Better-Way/dp/1541704622 ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

In this episode, Travis and producer Eric break down the modern “buy back your time” culture—everything from viral clips glamorizing $400/month haircuts to outsourcing every basic task. Eric brings his media and production perspective, while Travis adds years of entrepreneurial insight, creating a practical, funny, and eye-opening look at what actually matters when it comes to time, money, and priorities. On this episode we talk about: The rise of “alpha bro” outsourcing content and why so much of it is performative When paying to save time is genuinely smart—and when it's just a flex The psychology behind choosing what to do yourself vs. hiring it out Why cooking at home, reading books, and doing the obvious can be a real competitive advantage How Travis evaluates whether a time-saving purchase is actually worth it Top 3 Takeaways Not every “time-saving hack” is a hack—some are expensive distractions disguised as productivity. Buying back your time only works when you reinvest that time into something meaningful or profitable. Common sense executed consistently beats flashy shortcuts every single time. Notable Quotes “Your time is your only non-renewable asset—so spend money intentionally, not impulsively.” “Some of these viral hacks aren't hacks… they're just flexes with a motivational caption.” “Doing the obvious becomes a superpower when everyone else is looking for shortcuts.” ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

Betsy Fore is a serial entrepreneur, CEO, and investor with nearly 20 years of leadership experience. She's the author of Built on Purpose: Discover Your Deep Inner Why and Manifest the Business of Your Dreams, founding partner of Velveteen Ventures, and a trailblazer in consumer products for children and the planet. Notably, Betsy scaled Tiny Organics past $13 million in revenue in just 24 months, took Wonder Woof! from scrappy startup to Oprah's Favorite Things, and was the first Native American woman to raise a Series A for a consumer food startup. On this episode we talk about: Growing up in a small Midwestern town, working every day since 13, and becoming a leading business creator Turning a garage-tinkering childhood into a career as a toy inventor, then product startup founder How relentless optimism, reinvention, and standing atop “a mountain of failures” led to big wins Advice for founders: building with community, manifesting vision, securing funding, and the importance of thinking big—even if you're starting small Behind the scenes of Tiny Organics' explosive first-year growth, building a cult following, and scaling product through grass-roots founding families Top 3 Takeaways Every breakthrough product stands on a mountain of failed attempts; grit and adaptability win. Community-first feedback loops create true brand evangelists and drive authentic scale. Dreaming big isn't just mindset—it's a practical approach to manifesting opportunity and wealth wherever you start. Notable Quotes “For every success, there's a mountain of failures you're standing on.” “You have to feel your deep inner ‘why' to reveal it and build on it.” “Not every company needs to be venture-backed, but every founder can build generational wealth by manifesting their vision.” Connect with Betsy Fore: Website: betsyfore.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️