Renew Church Leaders' Podcast

Check out the Book Following Jesus in a Politically Divided World: https://a.co/d/fl1NKij  Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/  Today's episode will help us understand the dangers of Christian Nationalism and provide practical principles for Christian leaders to engage in politics in a way that prioritizes the Kingdom of God and maintains a faithful, biblically grounded witness. Understanding and Resisting Christian Nationalism: A Renew Conference Discussion In this episode, a lead pastor and area director at Renew discusses the potential dangers of Christian nationalism and offers a balanced theological perspective on the topic. The session begins with an invitation for senior church leaders to join a Renew learning community, emphasizing the importance of continuous engagement and shared learning. The speaker then provides a nuanced definition of Christian nationalism, explores its pitfalls, and contrasts it with a biblically-sound vision for Christian engagement in politics. Key points include the conflation of national identity with the kingdom of God, misuse of biblical prophecy, and an overemphasis on political power over Christian witness. Finally, the speaker advocates for principles like choosing theology over ideology and trust over panic, urging Christians to remain faithful to the teachings of Jesus in these challenging times. https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Announcements 01:37 Understanding Christian Nationalism 07:44 Defining Christian Nationalism 17:07 Problems with Christian Nationalism 30:17 Living in Western Europe: A Personal Reflection 30:44 Monocausal Explanations and Simplistic Thinking 31:45 Resource Rich Nation: A Complex Reality 32:53 Christian Nationalism and Horseshoe Theory 34:18 Post-Liberal Right and Left: A Convergence 37:44 The Pitfalls of Christian Nationalist Thought 41:09 Principles for Christian Engagement in Politics 47:50 Choosing Trust Over Panic 52:34 Final Thoughts and Audience Q&A

Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/  In this episode, Chris Jefferson delivers an engaging workshop on how churches can leverage digital tools to enhance evangelism, discipleship, and community engagement, offering practical strategies for building a robust online presence and using technology to support spiritual growth. Leveraging Digital Tools for Church Growth: Insights from Chris Jefferson In this engaging workshop, Chris Jefferson, Executive Director of Spire Network, addresses a diverse group from various states, guiding them on how to leverage technology for church growth. Chris focuses on the importance of digital presence, discussing tools like Church Post for social media management, VisitorReach for targeted ad campaigns, and Tether and Mission17 for discipleship initiatives. He underscores the need for churches to improve their digital visibility and engage more effectively with their communities. From addressing common challenges in church marketing to providing practical solutions for better engagement, this workshop is a comprehensive guide for church leaders aiming to thrive in the digital age. https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Meet and Greet: Getting to Know Each Other 02:01 Interactive Session: Preparing for the Presentation 04:16 Introduction to Technology and Discipleship 08:06 The Importance of Digital Presence for Churches 15:36 Assessing Your Church's Digital Health 23:42 Outsourcing Social Media with Church Post 27:34 Introduction to Visitor Reach 28:42 Digital Health Check: Enhancing Visibility 29:34 Targeted Ad Campaigns: Precision Outreach 30:32 AI-Powered Mobile App: Real-Time Engagement 31:47 Visitor Reach: A Comprehensive Solution 33:43 Special Offer and Pricing 34:29 Introducing Tether: Discipleship Tools 37:14 Mission 17: Accelerating Discipleship 42:40 StoryPath: Customized Church Engagement 48:03 Final Thoughts and Q&A See below for a longer description: In this episode, Chris Jefferson delivers a dynamic and comprehensive workshop focused on leveraging digital tools and strategies for church growth and connectivity. He begins with a lively introduction, meeting and greeting attendees, establishing a rapport, and swiftly moving into the session's core message: the importance of embracing digital technology for evangelism, discipleship, and church development. The first significant topic Chris discusses is the assessment of a church's digital health. He emphasizes the importance of knowing where the church stands in the digital realm, mentioning a variety of platforms and metrics crucial for church visibility and accessibility. Chris introduces the idea of a “digital health check,” which audits a church's online presence across platforms like Google, Facebook, and more to ensure accurate and optimized listings that improve discoverability, including compatibility with voice recognition searches using Siri and Alexa. Chris addresses common concerns and questions from the attendees. He provides guidance on managing digital platforms with limited resources and emphasizes the effectiveness of outsourcing to specialized services for tasks like social media management and digital health checks. For instance, if a church doesn't have the bandwidth internally, he advises leveraging services like Church Post to maintain a consistent online presence. Chris concludes by emphasizing the necessity of churches embracing digital transformation, stressing that it is not a change in the church's message but rather an adaptation of the medium. He highlights the potential of these tools to position churches competitively in the digital space, thus maximizing their reach and impact in their communities.

Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/  Today's episode will help us rethink how we approach ministry by trading a factory mindset for a more organic, relational, and patient way of cultivating spiritual growth. Farm vs. Factory: Embracing Gospel Principles in Ministry In this insightful session, Matt Reagan explores the concept of 'Farm vs. Factory' in the context of ministry. Focusing on the differences between organic, life-giving ministry and the high-demand, high-output factory model, Matt aims to guide attendees toward practices that are nourishing for the soul and effective for the kingdom of God. Drawing parallels between farming principles and gospel teachings, Matt emphasizes the importance of deep, transformational relationships, the power of seed-growing, and the commitment to kingdom values. Through a Socratic method, prayer, and interactive discussion, attendees are encouraged to reflect on their ministry experiences and realign with life-giving practices. The session also delves into the challenges of modern church structure and offers practical advice for maintaining spiritual health and focus amidst complexity. https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Purpose 04:32 The Power of Seeds and the Kingdom of God 09:05 Challenges of Ministry: Feeling Like a Factory 14:28 Brainstorming Session: Factory-Like Aspects of Ministry 33:03 Mass Production and Church Concerns 35:16 Church Policies and Discipleship 36:04 Job Comparisons: Church vs. Farm 40:48 Farm Life and Ministry 42:48 Challenges and Rewards of Farming 47:42 Farm Life Lessons and Spiritual Growth 56:25 Final Reflections and Encouragement "Farming vs. Factory Work in Ministry"   In this episode, Matt Raegan draws a sharp contrast between two approaches to ministry: farming and factory work. Using humor, personal stories, and scripture, he challenges church leaders to embrace a slower, more organic model of spiritual growth. He opens with a light moment—encouraging people to connect with those around them, even if it's awkward—before diving into a deeper reflection on how the Gospel grows like a seed. Drawing from a Chipotle ad romanticizing farming, Matt uses it as a metaphor for how ministry should look: relational, patient, and rooted in care. He shares his son's journey into ministry as a living example of how faith takes time to develop. Like Jesus' farming parables, Matt emphasizes that the Kingdom of God isn't built on production lines but through nurturing environments where people can truly grow. He contrasts this with the "factory" model—rigid, impersonal, and driven by output—which can lead to burnout and disconnection. Ministry, he argues, should be more like tending a farm: slow, intentional, and deeply personal. Throughout, Matt invites the audience to reflect on their own experiences—acknowledging the emotional weight of ministry and the fulfillment that comes from doing the hard, faithful work of cultivating people's hearts. He closes with a powerful call to action: commit to the farming model. Plant seeds. Nurture the soil. Trust God with the growth. A final prayer ties it all together, asking for the strength to lead with patience, love, and a long-term vision rooted in the Kingdom. This episode is a call to return to ministry that feels less mechanical—and more alive.

Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/  Creating a Culture of Discipleship: Insights from The Crossings Church In this episode, Kerry shares a detailed journey about fostering a culture of discipleship at The Crossings Church. Beginning with a prayer, he outlines his family's history in church planting, the growth of The Crossings Church since 2004, and their unique approach to making disciples. Discussing the importance of repentance, baptism, and the relational component in discipling, he emphasizes the need for leaders to model these practices. The video includes insights into their structured Bible study process, small group dynamics, and intentional church practices. Practical advice is given for churches seeking to emulate this model and address doctrinal adherence and growth challenges. https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Opening Prayer and Introduction 00:49 Personal Background and Church Planting Journey 01:55 Growth and Challenges at The Crossings Church 04:03 Cultural Shifts in the Restoration Movement 10:31 The Importance of Relational Discipleship 18:07 Teaching Repentance and Baptism 19:26 Bible Study Practices at The Crossings 30:01 Training New Disciples 31:57 The Importance of Repentance 33:43 Understanding Baptism 34:34 Challenges in Discipleship 38:07 Addressing Doctrinal Differences 45:09 Small Group Dynamics 47:54 Maintaining Church Culture 58:17 Concluding Thoughts "Farming vs. Factory Work in Ministry" In this episode, Kerry Cox shares lessons from his ministry journey, focusing on church planting, discipleship, and creating a culture of genuine spiritual growth. He opens with a prayer, setting the tone for a conversation centered on God's guidance and the power of community. Kerry reflects on his early exposure to church life, shaped by his parents starting a home church when they grew disillusioned with traditional ones. From a young age, he witnessed how the unchurched came to faith and became disciple-makers themselves—a foundation that shaped his approach to ministry. In 2004, Kerry and about 30 others moved west of St. Louis to plant Crossings Church. Over the next 20 years, it grew to around 650 members, especially connecting with youth and people new to church. Crossings stood out from typical Churches of Christ by building a culture that prioritized relationships, authenticity, and active discipleship. A key theme Kerry emphasizes is the need to move beyond a baptism-centered model to one that fully integrates faith, repentance, and ongoing discipleship. He challenges the tendency in some Restoration Movement churches to treat baptism as the end goal, arguing instead for a holistic, relational approach to spiritual growth. Throughout the episode, Kerry shares stories that bring this vision to life—like the high schooler who brought his troubled brother, TC, to church. Though TC's commitment was doubted at first, he went on to help lead their first church plant. Stories like this underscore the power of relational ministry and long-term investment in people. Kerry also breaks down how Crossings Church puts these values into practice. Every member joins a small group and engages in a foundational Bible study process that covers topics from seeking God to discipleship and baptism. Leaders are trained to model this lifestyle, creating a culture where disciple-making starts at the top and flows through the entire church. He answers audience questions on how to integrate new believers, tailor small groups, and avoid turning church into a checklist of activities. His central point: everything the church does should point back to its mission—making real, multiplying disciples. Kerry wraps up by urging churches to shift their culture—away from routine, and toward deep, intentional, Spirit-led relationships. His insights, drawn from years of hands-on ministry, offer a practical and inspiring roadmap for building vibrant, disciple-making communities.

Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/  Today's episode will help us rethink how we approach ministry by trading a factory mindset for a more organic, relational, and patient way of cultivating spiritual growth. Understanding Spiritual Warfare and Discipleship with Shodankeh Johnson In this insightful talk, Shodankeh Johnson, an experienced church planter and disciple maker from Sierra Leone, shares his journey and challenges in advancing the Kingdom of God. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing spiritual warfare, using the Word of God, prayer, and love to overcome obstacles and make disciples. Shodankeh recounts personal stories of facing threats, persecution, and miraculous transformations, illustrating the reality of spiritual battles and the power of faith. Join us to learn about the critical aspects of spiritual warfare, the nature of the enemy, and how to stand firm as a disciple maker. https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Gratitude 01:36 Personal Background and Ministry 03:50 Understanding Spiritual Warfare 06:19 The Reality of Spiritual Warfare 11:22 Stories of Faith and Transformation 15:30 Critical Insights on Spiritual Warfare 24:38 Divine Weapons and Love in Action 32:26 The Armor of God: Spiritual Warfare Essentials 35:22 Faith and Perseverance in Adversity 37:01 Facing Persecution with Courage 42:05 Understanding Satan's Tactics 54:22 Identifying and Overcoming Strongholds 58:32 The Power of the Word and Prayer 01:01:40 Conclusion and Final Thoughts This episode opens with Shodankeh Johnson thanking the audience and leading a prayer, inviting God's presence and wisdom. He briefly introduces himself, sharing his background in disciple-making and church planting across the globe—especially in Sierra Leone, where he's seen God move in powerful ways, even in dangerous situations. Coming from a Creole father and a Muslim Shabro mother, Shodanke brings a deeply personal and cross-cultural perspective to his mission. The heart of the conversation centers on spiritual warfare. Shodanke stresses that spiritual warfare is real and unavoidable—like gravity, it's in effect whether we acknowledge it or not. He's witnessed the influence of darkness across cultures and emphasizes the need to preach the Word boldly and make disciples who are grounded in truth and equipped for battle. He invites the audience to share what comes to mind when they think of spiritual warfare—responses include prayer, fasting, and confronting evil. From there, he unpacks the spiritual conflict believers face: an invisible but fierce battle between the Kingdom of God and the forces of darkness, aimed at disrupting our relationship with Christ and stopping the spread of the Gospel. Quoting Ephesians 6:12, Shodankeh shares stories of personal threats, persecution, and near-death experiences—yet also moments of miraculous transformation, where former enemies of the faith became devoted followers of Jesus. These testimonies highlight God's power and the impact of responding with love and prayer. He outlines four truths every disciple-maker must grasp about spiritual warfare: You are in a war. The fight is spiritual, not physical. God provides powerful, non-carnal weapons. You must put on the full armor of God (Ephesians 6:13–18). Shodankeh also breaks down Satan's tactics—affliction, accusation, and destruction—designed to weaken believers and distract them from their mission (John 10:10, Revelation 12:10). He describes three types of spiritual strongholds: He concludes by encouraging listeners to tear down these strongholds through Scripture, the Holy Spirit, and disciplined prayer and fasting (2 Corinthians 10:5). The battle may be spiritual, but God's power is real and available to all who seek Him.

Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/  Today's episode will help us discover how consistent, community-driven Bible reading can transform our faith, deepen our understanding of Scripture, and build a culture of spiritual growth. The Transformative Power of Reading the Bible: Tina's Approach In this insightful video, Tina shares her profound experience and method of integrating daily Bible reading into her spiritual routine and church culture. She emphasizes the importance of not just relying on second-hand teachings but committing to reading the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation annually. Highlighting her own journey from biblical illiteracy to spiritual transformation, Tina discusses the impact of understanding scripture contextually and the benefits of a disciplined Bible study routine. She introduces her book 'Step Into Scripture' as a guide to help others embark on this life-changing journey. Tina also delves into practical ways her church has successfully structured Bible studies to foster community, accountability, and deeper biblical understanding among their members. Join Tina in exploring how the Word of God can transform lives through dedicated, intentional, and strategic Bible reading.  https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Key Takeaways  00:00 Introduction and Housekeeping 01:31 Getting to Know Each Other 09:00 Personal Testimony and Spiritual Growth 12:24 The Importance of Reading the Whole Bible 19:26 Warnings Against Simplicity 31:00 Wisdom vs. Folly 33:49 Personal Journey of Discernment 34:57 The Birth and Growth of Glacier Church 36:18 The Importance of Teachability 37:44 Commitment to Biblical Literacy 39:22 Introducing 'Step Into Scripture' 40:29 Structure and Benefits of the Book 47:31 Implementing the Study in Church 56:20 Q&A Session 01:06:18 Closing Prayer and Final Thoughts In this episode, titled “Tina Wilson,” Tina shares her journey of discovering the power of daily Bible reading and how it's transformed her personal faith and ministry. She opens with some housekeeping for the live podcast recording and a light, friendly chat with the audience about their backgrounds, setting a warm, welcoming tone. Tina then gets personal, reflecting on a turning point in high school when her now-husband challenged her to back up her beliefs with scripture. That challenge led her to read the Book of Acts—and later, the entire Bible—revealing how much she didn't know, even after growing up in church.   In college, with no church community around, scripture became her anchor. She's now read the Bible every year since, a habit that's deeply shaped her walk with God and inspired her to help others do the same. Tina makes a strong case for reading the whole Bible, warning against spiritual simplicity—what Proverbs describes as naivety or lack of discernment—which can open the door to deception and division. Instead, she encourages a posture of teachability: humility, openness, and the willingness to grow. Tina also introduces her Bible reading guide, Step Into Scripture, designed to help people engage the Bible chronologically in a year. The four-part structure—Shadows, Signposts, Sounds, and Source—traces key biblical themes and how they point to Jesus. She shares how her church has embraced this model through small group discussions, daily readings, and communal celebrations every 14 weeks. These gatherings not only deepen biblical understanding but build spiritual momentum and lasting community. Tina wraps up with a Q&A, offering practical tips and encouragement for building a culture of Bible reading wherever you are. Her story is a powerful reminder that consistent engagement with God's Word can radically change lives—and communities.

View the book from Renée Sproles: “Male & Female: A Biblical Look at Gender” https://renew.org/product/male-female-a-biblical-look-at-gender/ Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/  Today's episode will help us understand God's design for men and women by exploring how Scripture defines their distinct yet complementary roles in leadership, the church, and the home. Renee Sproles takes a thoughtful dive into what the Bible says about the roles of men and women, focusing on leadership, responsibility, and God's design for both sexes. Renee opens with gratitude and a prayer, asking for God's guidance and recognizing Jesus as the Creator who leads with kindness, justice, and righteousness. She outlines her goal: to look at the big picture of Scripture before narrowing in on specific texts about gender roles in the home and church. She shares her personal journey—from embracing egalitarianism (the idea that men and women have interchangeable roles) to developing a more nuanced view shaped by Scripture and life experience. Raised in a strict complementarian setting where women had little voice in church, she was struck by the contrast in her parents' equal partnership in business. That tension sparked her curiosity and deeper study. Renee distinguishes between circumstantial evidence (the broader biblical narrative) and specific evidence (direct instructions). Both are needed to understand gender roles fully. She likens circumstantial evidence to a feast—rich and nourishing—and specific evidence to medicine—necessary but insufficient on its own. Starting in Genesis, she explains that male and female identities are rooted in creation. Adam, formed first, is given the priestly task of tending the garden and passing on God's commands. Eve, created as his strong helper, reflects the same term used for God's help to Israel—implying strength, not weakness. These archetypes—original roles, not stereotypes—set the tone for male leadership and female partnership. Biblical women like Sarah, Abigail, and Deborah are held up as examples of faith, wisdom, and courage. While men were called to lead as priests and prophets, women also played crucial roles, though in different ways—especially in prophecy and support. In the New Testament, Renee notes how Jesus elevated women's status but still chose male apostles, reinforcing the pattern of male leadership. Women, however, were vital in ministry—praying, teaching, and serving alongside Jesus. Paul's letters, especially 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy, are examined closely. Renee argues Paul's teachings on male headship and women's roles in church leadership are grounded in creation, not just cultural concerns. His call for women to learn quietly and avoid authoritative teaching over men is tied to the order established in Genesis. She also addresses common pushbacks—like claims that Paul was only dealing with false teachers or cultural norms. Instead, she contends Paul's instructions are rooted in timeless biblical principles. The episode ends by framing spiritual leadership as a shepherd-like role—one that provides space, safety, and growth. In Renee's view, male leadership in the church is meant to serve and protect, just as it was in Eden. In short, this episode offers a deep, scripture-based look at gender roles in Christianity, encouraging men and women to live out their God-given callings with humility, grace, and mutual respect.

If you want to explore more, check out resources at RENEW.org. We recommend the article “Is Discipleship Required?” — a thoughtful look at why following Jesus means embracing discipleship. You can read it here: renew.org/is-discipleship-required. Until next time, keep pursuing real life in Christ. Today's episode will help us see how strategic partnerships—like those formed through the Solomon Foundation—can strengthen churches, fuel growth, and create lasting impact in communities and leaders' lives. Doug Fultz & Ken Idleman dives into the power of partnerships in ministry, with a special focus on the work of the Solomon Foundation. The episode kicks off with a relaxed, personal atmosphere—participants introduce themselves, share ministry backgrounds, and even chat about career goals and growing cities. From that casual start, the conversation naturally shifts into a deeper discussion about how strategic partnerships can fuel church growth and community impact. Doug Fultz and Ken Idleman lead the way, drawing from decades of ministry experience. Ken shares how biblical partnerships—from Moses and Aaron to Jesus and the disciples—have always been key to mission success. He reflects on his own ministry journey and the critical role partnerships played in growing churches and building strong communities. Doug focuses on the practical side—how networking among pastors and church leaders led to church plants and revitalization efforts. He highlights how the Solomon Foundation acts not just as a lender, but as a true ministry partner. With flexible financing and a heart for the local church, the Foundation helps churches grow—sometimes starting with no down payment at all. Real-life stories bring the impact to life: Nathan Freeman's church in Jacksonville grew from meeting in a funeral home to owning a $9M facility. Southern Hills Christian Church expanded significantly thanks to customized financial solutions. Even unique ministries, like a fully inmate-led church inside Angola Prison and Louisiana's Keep It Real reentry program, are thriving with support from the Foundation. Doug and Ken also stress that partnerships go beyond money. The Solomon Foundation invests in the spiritual health of leaders, offering mentorship, counseling, and encouragement. They wrap up by inviting listeners to see partnership as a way to make real kingdom impact—not just financially, but relationally and spiritually. This episode is a strong reminder that ministry isn't meant to be done alone—and that with the right partners, churches can do more than just survive; they can flourish.

If you want to dive deeper, check out Jeremy Bacon's book “Sermon on the Mount: 40 Days of Learning the Ways of the Kingdom” available at RENEW.org. It's a great resource for anyone wanting to grow in understanding and living out Jesus' teachings. You can find it here: renew.org/product/sermon-on-the-mount-40-days-of-learning-the-ways-of-the-kingdom. Until next time, keep living out your faith in real life. Today's episode will help us move beyond seeing the Sermon on the Mount as a set of rules and instead embrace its call to heart transformation and kingdom living. In this episode, Jeremy Bacon shares his journey exploring the Sermon on the Mount. Starting with a funny travel story from Illinois and a vacation to Nova Scotia, he warmly connects with the audience before diving into the topic. Though initially hesitant—thinking the sermon was overdone—Jeremy's deep study, sparked by teaching Maasai pastors in Kenya, transformed his view. He explains that the Sermon on the Mount isn't just a list of rules. Instead, it reveals God's character and calls us to change our hearts to reflect His. For example, Jesus' teaching on anger isn't about hiding frustration but confronting the deeper issue of contempt that harms relationships. Jeremy describes the sermon as a blueprint for kingdom living, showing how God's kingdom intersects with our broken world and invites a supernatural transformation. This process takes time and requires surrender to God's guidance. Practically, Jeremy encourages us to seek God's heart behind each teaching rather than focusing on rigid rules. He stresses the importance of understanding both the big picture and the details to avoid misinterpretation. He also addresses today's cultural tensions, urging leaders to shepherd communities with a kingdom mindset, trusting God despite fears and division. The episode wraps up with a Q&A, where Jeremy offers thoughtful advice on applying the sermon's teachings in real life. Overall, Jeremy's relatable style and insights invite us to move beyond legalism and embrace the transformative power at the heart of Jesus' message.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us rediscover the heart of discipleship by reminding pastors and church leaders that spiritual growth, humility, and biblical grounding are essential—not just for those they lead, but for themselves as well. Check out our premium podcast platform: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  In this bilingual episode, John sits down with David Mieja and others to discuss life as pastors, disciples, and spiritual leaders. The conversation weaves between English and Spanish, reflecting the diverse backgrounds of the participants. They reflect on cultural dynamics in church life, especially within Hispanic communities in the U.S., and how traditions from places like El Salvador and Cuba shape discipleship practices. Both men stress that true discipleship isn't just about attending services—it's about transformation, humility, and a deep connection to God's Word. Scriptures like Matthew 28 and Philippians 3 frame their message: making disciples is central to the church's mission. They caution against drifting from biblical truth and highlight the need for mentorship and spiritual accountability. The episode wraps up with a prayer for wisdom, unity, and faithfulness in ministry. Through honest stories and biblical insight, David and John offer a timely reminder: spiritual leaders never stop learning, and the church thrives when discipleship stays at the center.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us reimagine the future of the Churches of Christ by embracing intentional discipleship, Spirit-led community, and practical strategies for revitalizing faith in our churches. In this episode, the speaker delivers a passionate and practical message about faith, community, and the future of the Churches of Christ. He opens with a story about visiting Brush Run, drawing a parallel between small, humble beginnings and global gospel impact—just like Christianity's start in Israel. This sets the tone for the rest of his talk: encouraging churches to remember where they came from and look ahead with bold vision. He reflects on how churches once held the center of community life and challenges us to confront the cultural shifts that have led to disengagement. But his message is hopeful: the best days of the Churches of Christ can still be ahead—if we commit to intentional discipleship and community-building. A major focus is on practical tools for disciple-making. He emphasizes the need for clear pathways over a buffet of church programs, recommending approaches like Discovery Bible Study (DBS) to equip members for relational, reproducible discipleship. He shares real examples of how these methods have worked in his own ministry. The speaker also underscores the power of small groups, especially gender-specific ones, for deeper connection and accountability. He stresses the importance of prayer and fasting—not as rituals, but as essential practices for seeking God's direction before moving forward. Drawing inspiration from global movements like Shidonke's ministry, he calls the church to become more Spirit-led and sacrificial. Throughout the talk, he shares stories of surprising generosity and Holy Spirit-driven moments in his church, urging us not to settle for routine Christianity but to pursue the kind of extraordinary life described in Acts. He closes with a passionate call to action and a heartfelt prayer—asking God for boldness, creativity, and unity to reignite a disciple-making movement in the Churches of Christ. This episode is a wake-up call to step into our mission with renewed purpose, faith, and openness to the Spirit's leading.

Get the book The Disciple's Mind: Thinking Like a Disciple of Jesus: https://renew.org/product/the-disciples-mind-thinking-like-a-disciple-of-jesus/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us think critically and faithfully about how we engage with culture, offering a biblical framework for balancing truth and grace in a complex world. In this episode, professors Chad Ragsdale and Daniel McCoy dive into what it means to think critically and engage culture as faithful Christians, drawing from their co-authored book. Chad kicks things off with the question: “How do we love God with all our minds?” He outlines a helpful framework—four ways Christians typically interact with culture—based on two axes: accommodation vs. hostility, and anti-culture vs. counter-culture. He explains how each approach can have its place, but when a temporary strategy becomes a rigid default, it often loses its biblical grounding. Daniel then contrasts the destructive nature of Satan with the creative nature of God. While the enemy tears apart relationships, truth, and virtue, God brings things together—truth and love, compassion and courage—to create something new and life-giving. He shares everyday examples, like navigating LGBTQ+ issues with both grace and truth, or parenting with both tenderness and honesty. The conversation emphasizes that discipleship means staying thoughtful and flexible—continually learning, asking hard questions, and avoiding knee-jerk responses to culture. Chad highlights the need for churches to regularly teach on these tensions, encouraging deep, ongoing reflection rather than simplistic answers. Overall, this episode equips Christians to engage today's world with wisdom and grace—grounded in Scripture, guided by love, and always open to learning how to better reflect Christ in complex cultural moments.  

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand how grandparents can significantly influence their grandchildren's spiritual and personal development through consistent presence, practical wisdom, and genuine love. In this episode of the Real Life Theology Podcast, Bob Russell provides a detailed discussion about the significant role grandparents can play in the spiritual and personal development of their grandchildren. The speaker starts with an anecdote about Wayne Smith, a memorable preacher, and transitions into the importance of projecting one's voice and presence effectively. He shares narratives from Biblical passages, particularly Genesis 48, where Jacob blesses his grandsons, Ephraim and Manasseh, establishing a foundational example of generational blessing and influence. The speaker underscores the importance of grandparents using their life's lessons and spiritual insights to positively influence their grandchildren, despite their own imperfections and past mistakes. Several points are discussed on how grandparents can be a blessing to their grandchildren. He emphasizes the importance of having a good relationship with the parents of the grandchildren, reinforcing the parents' values, even if disagreements arise. The speaker recounts personal stories, illustrating both fun and trying moments with his grandchildren, such as the humorously chaotic experience of babysitting young children and attending a grandchild's sporting events. He reiterates that while grandparenting younger children can be fun, the influence grandparents have during the older years is often more critical. The speaker highlights the importance of shared activities and being present for grandchildren's significant moments, showing that consistent, everyday interactions often have a more profound impact on grandchildren than grand, expensive gestures. The speaker advises using financial resources wisely, suggesting that grandparents help their children and grandchildren with timely financial gifts rather than leaving large inheritances. This practice not only provides immediate support during the family's developmental years but fosters a culture of generosity and support. Another key point is the use of technology to stay connected, especially with grandchildren who may live far away. Texting, emails, and other forms of digital communication are valuable tools for maintaining relationships and providing timely support and encouragement. The importance of sharing spiritual values is emphasized, often happening in everyday, spontaneous moments. Grandparents can instill these values during shared activities and family traditions. There is also a suggestion to write a letter to be read after one's death, which can provide lasting spiritual guidance and encouragement to grandchildren. The speaker addresses the challenges grandparents may face when their grandchildren are not following a spiritual path or engaging in behaviors they do not approve of. He advises maintaining love and communication, setting clear boundaries, and using wisdom to navigate these difficult situations without compromising one's values. He warns against centering one's entire life on grandchildren to the exclusion of all else, advocating for a balanced life that includes personal growth, friendships, and church involvement. This approach not only prevents burnout but also models a healthy, well-rounded lifestyle for the grandchildren. In conclusion, the speaker encourages grandparents to finish strong spiritually, setting a consistent example of faith and integrity that will leave a lasting legacy for their grandchildren. He reinforces the idea that the greatest contribution grandparents can make is through their spiritual influence and the loving, supportive relationships they build with their grandchildren.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: Preview of ‘What Are You Waiting For?' https://renew.org/product/preview-of-what-are-you-waiting-for/  Today's episode will help us understand the importance of starting a new restoration movement, the impact of university choices on young adults' lives, and the necessity to overcome sectarianism for a united revolutionary effort. Mike Williams reflects on a previous speech given two years ago about initiating a new restoration movement at Harding University. He discusses the need for a renewed movement inspired by revolutionary change rather than traditional methods, highlighting the shortcomings of current approaches to keep youth engaged with the church. The speaker addresses the importance of the 'defining decade' in young adults' lives, emphasizing the role of faith-based higher education in shaping future leaders and revolutionaries. Personal anecdotes and larger calls for ecumenical unity underscore the urgency of abandoning sectarianism and fostering a dynamic, engaged faith community.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: The Kingdom Unleashed https://renew.org/product/the-kingdom-unleashed/  Today's episode will help us explore the conviction about God's word that guides us towards unity within the restoration movement. Orpheus Heyward emphasizes the importance of unity in the Restoration Movement, grounded in the belief that Jesus Christ and Scripture serve as the final authority. Key points include handling the word of God with integrity, recognizing and managing biases in interpreting Scripture, and understanding the role of preachers. Orpheus Heyward discusses the historical context and significance of specific biblical passages, such as 2 Timothy 3:16 and Acts 2:42. An anecdote about cooperation between Churches of Christ and the Christian Church highlights the need to focus on core doctrines rather than divisive issues like instrumental music in worship. The speaker advocates for scriptural integrity and not letting personal or traditional biases hinder fellowship among believers.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: Multipliers: A summary of the best church planting insights by the co-founder and CEO of the world's largest gathering of church planters every year. https://renew.org/product/multipliers/  Today's episode will help us understand the importance of making disciples who make disciples, starting new churches, and ensuring that these churches remain committed to biblical teaching and authority. This episode features Brett Andrews talking about the importance of discipleship and church planting as central to the mission of spreading the teachings of Jesus. Emphasizing that discipleship should naturally lead to the development of new churches, the speaker explains that New Life's vision aligns with Passion for Planting and the Renew Movement, aiming to create a church-planting network. The episode highlights the need for individual disciples to grow and make disciples, eventually leading to reproducing churches and networks. The significance of proper theological foundations and accountability in new church plants is stressed, advocating for adherence to biblical teachings. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of community and structured support for church planters. 

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: Becoming a Disciple Maker: The Pursuit of Level 5 Disciple Making https://renew.org/product/becoming-a-disciple-maker-the-pursuit-of-level-5-disciple-making/  Today's episode will help us understand the deep divisions in society and the church, as well as explore how different ideological 'caps' can shape our beliefs and actions. Daniel McCoy discusses the deep political and ideological divisions within Christian families and churches, highlighting the tension between conservative and progressive viewpoints. He introduces two archetypal church members, Spencer the Specifist, who demands more specific and conservative preaching, and Amber the Ambiguous, who advocates for a more inclusive and less definitive approach. Daniel McCoy then draws parallels between modern political divisions and historic events, like the French Revolution and Constantine's reign, cautioning against aligning the gospel too closely with political ideologies. It also explains the impact of intersectional feminism on Christian beliefs and emphasizes the need to balance social justice and biblical teachings without succumbing to polarized, ready-made versions of the gospel.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: Preview of Holy Spirit: Filled, Empowered, and Led https://renew.org/product/preview-of-holy-spirit-filled-empowered-and-led/  Today's episode will help us understand the indispensable role of the Holy Spirit in personal and communal spiritual growth through the teachings and experiences shared by Dave Clayton. Dave Clayton emphasizes the necessity of the Holy Spirit's presence in ministry. He begins with a prayer and a personal anecdote of the speaker forgetting his soon-to-be wife at their rehearsal dinner. This story serves as a parable illustrating how ministers can easily focus on tasks and strategies, neglecting the Holy Spirit, akin to attending a party but missing the presence of the guest of honor. Dave Clayton argues that true ministry must involve intimate fellowship with the Holy Spirit, citing biblical examples of Jesus' reliance on the Spirit. Key points include the Holy Spirit affirming leaders' identity as children of God, providing freedom from sin, enabling abundant fruitfulness, and offering deep spiritual fullness. Dave Clayton calls for humility, holiness, and hunger for the Spirit's guidance to rejuvenate the church's mission.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: Revisiting the Master Plan of Evangelism https://renew.org/product/demo-ebook-post-01-copy-2/  Today's episode will help us understand the importance of disciple making and how to practically apply the principles of Jesus' ministry to modern-day church cultures. Josh Howard discusses the crucial importance of good theology and experiencing the love of Christ in relationships. He emphasizes the insufficiency of programs, great preaching, praise, worship, and social justice alone. Instead, it advocates for a return to Jesus' method of disciple making. Josh Howard highlights a recent study revealing that only 1 in 19 churches focus on disciple making. Josh Howard, a missionary in India for 15 years, shares his journey of learning discipleship from Indian believers who modeled profound faith and sacrifice. He notes the success of a disciple-making movement that has led to over 130,000 conversions. The script calls for unity among Christians, focusing on Jesus' mission and the urgent need for discipleship to fulfill the Great Commission.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: Preview of Holy Spirit: Filled, Empowered, and Led https://renew.org/product/preview-of-holy-spirit-filled-empowered-and-led/  Today's episode will help us understand the critical need to develop effective leadership pipelines within the Independent Christian Church in America to ensure its growth and sustainability. Doug Crozier discusses the growth and challenges of the Independent Christian Church in America. He highlights the rapid increase in large congregations since the early 90s and attributes the growth to non-denominationalism, a strong belief in the Word of God, and leadership development. Doug Crozier criticizes the decline in Christian college enrollment for ministry degrees, linking it to financial concerns and inadequate pastoral compensation. Proposed solutions include better financial support for pastors, building endowments for Bible colleges, and substantial contributions from megachurch leaders. The need for pastoral care and maintaining current leaders to ensure ongoing growth is also emphasized.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our free eBook on: Facing Your Church's Future: 6 Steps to Consider in 10 Minutes https://renew.org/product/facing-your-churchs-future-6-steps-to-consider-in-10-minutes/  Today's episode will help us understand the crucial role of love, mercy, and compassion in the modern church and how we can engage the younger generation in revitalizing the mission of the Christian faith. Mike Williams addresses the perception that contemporary church practices have become inward-focused, missing their broader societal impact. He discusses the concerns of young Christians who find traditional churches irrelevant and instead pursue non-profit initiatives to address human suffering. The speaker draws on historical examples and biblical teachings to stress the need for a modern restoration of the church's commitment to love, mercy, and compassion, akin to the early Christian community's transformative influence on Roman society. Emphasizing an apostolic response over antagonism or apathy, the call is for the church to engage actively in redemptive work, thereby reclaiming its relevance and effectively spreading the teachings of Jesus.

Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Check out our 2025 RENEW Gathering Digital Access Pass:  https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Today's episode will help us understand the theological and social perspectives surrounding the inclusion and fear experienced by African Americans in the context of Christian unity. Orpheus. Heyward discusses the importance of theological foundations, focusing on the Great Commission and the inclusivity of the Gospel for all ethnic groups. It highlights the biblical story of Peter's vision in Acts 10, emphasizing God's acceptance of ethnic diversity. Orpheus. Heyward addresses the historical trauma faced by African Americans, particularly in the context of religious exclusion and the formation of the black church. The need for understanding and addressing these historical wounds is stressed, particularly within predominantly Caucasian religious spaces. The speaker shares personal experiences and suggests open dialogue and empathy as key steps towards racial unity and reconciliation within the Christian community. Examples include discussions on the Trayvon Martin and George Floyd incidents and the importance of including African American narratives in the larger Christian history. The message concludes with a call for authentic inclusion, collaboration on the mission of God, and the significance of understanding historical pain to create a more inclusive and unified Christian community.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us navigate LGBTQ+ issues within Christianity by balancing compassionate engagement and traditional biblical teachings, encouraging hospitable conversations and deeper understanding. The episode centers around a class led by Guy Hammond, the executive director of Strength in Weakness Ministries, which aims to help Christians navigate issues related to LGBTQ+ individuals from a perspective of traditional biblical sexual ethics. The session highlights that churches must discuss culturally relevant and controversial topics such as LGBTQ+ issues to remain pertinent. Guy begins by introducing himself and explaining the purpose and history of his ministry, which has grown to support Christians across 90 countries by running support groups for homosexually attracted Christians and parents with LGBTQ+ children. Guy shares his personal journey, detailing his early life as a gay man, his struggles with faith, and his eventual decision to embrace Christianity while rejecting homosexual practices. He emphasizes that he did not choose his attractions but believes that living according to biblical teachings requires celibacy for homosexually attracted individuals. He also discusses his late wife Kathy's pragmatic approach to his future remarriage and his current marriage to Laura, demonstrating his perspective on love and companionship within a Christian framework. Ellen Radcliffe, the Ministry's Chief Operating Officer, also speaks, sharing her similar background of living a lesbian lifestyle before turning to faith. Ellen underscores the importance of leading others to fall in love with God rather than merely adhering to a set of beliefs. She discusses her therapeutic work and her belief in the "messy middle space," a term describing the intersection of truth and grace where Christians can accept people without necessarily approving of their actions. Ellen asserts that understanding individuals as beloved children of God is crucial to navigating LGBTQ+ conversations within Christianity. The session covers practical strategies for churches to engage with LGBTQ+ topics, emphasizing the difference between acceptance and approval, and the necessity of hospitality toward those who are different. Guy argues that many Christians are not homophobic but rather uneducated about LGBTQ+ issues, which leads to avoidance behaviors. He stresses that the transformation into a Christian life is not quick and that churches should be prepared to welcome LGBTQ+ individuals for extended periods while they navigate their faith journey. Guy outlines four key messages for engaging with LGBTQ+ individuals: God's unconditional love, the freedom to live as one chooses, the trustworthiness of the Bible, and the high but worthwhile cost of following Jesus. He underscores the need for Christians to demonstrate the superiority of a life with Jesus over a life without by being exemplary in their own faith and knowledge of Christ. The episode concludes by offering workshops and educational materials, including a new book and a documentary that Guy hopes will aid churches in addressing LGBTQ+ topics effectively. Guy invites ministers and church leaders to engage with his ministry for further training and support, thereby equipping themselves to handle these issues with compassion, truth, and hospitality.  

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand the essential principles and practices for creating and maintaining a thriving, disciple-making church culture, emphasizing intentionality, accountability, and the power of community. "Disciple Making Culture" is an in-depth episode focusing on the journey and principles behind creating a thriving, disciple-making church culture. The conversation begins with the speakers, a father and son duo who planted a church in 2004 near St. Louis, sharing their experiences of church growth and the subsequent planting of other churches. A pivotal moment comes when a mentor, Bobby, recognizes the importance of their deliberate culture and urges them to protect it. The speakers emphasize the distinction between a church with disciple makers and a disciple-making church. They outline key principles, starting with crystallizing what it means to be a disciple and ensuring all church leaders are on the same page. They argue that a clear, biblical definition of discipleship aids in shaping a culture where making disciples is central. Following this, they stress the importance of integrating discipleship from the very beginning of the conversion process. They describe a structured approach where new believers are taken through studies to ingrain the principles of discipleship deeply from the start, emphasizing that every member is expected to be a disciple and a disciple maker. The discussion highlights the necessity of accountability and modeling by leaders. Leaders are called to be examples, not just instructors, as hypocrisy among leaders can severely damage the church's mission. Celebrating successes and correcting drifts are also crucial to maintaining the church's culture, ensuring that minor deviations do not become major issues. The speakers share personal anecdotes to illustrate their points, including the transformation of individuals through dedicated discipleship and the impact of a supportive church culture on their own families. They mention the importance of creating systems and rhythms that reinforce discipleship, using events, retreats, and conferences to keep the focus on disciple-making. Ultimately, the episode underscores the challenges and rewards of maintaining a disciple-making culture. It highlights that while such a structure might limit church growth in terms of numbers, it profoundly impacts the quality of spiritual growth and commitment among members. The conversation reflects a passionate plea for churches to return to biblical principles of discipleship, emphasizing intentionality, accountability, and the power of community in fostering lasting spiritual transformation.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand the foundational principles and strategies for effective church planting, emphasizing reliance on divine guidance, addressing challenges, and ensuring doctrinal soundness for sustainable growth. In this episode of "Church Planting," the speaker delves into the foundational principles and motivations for starting new churches. The central theme revolves around reliance on divine guidance, as captured by Psalm 127:1, emphasizing that unless the Lord builds the house, labor is in vain. The speaker reinforces the need for absolute confidence in Jesus to build the church, highlighting that human effort alone is insufficient without divine support. The discussion transitions to the "why" of church planting, rooted in addressing the lostness of people akin to sheep without a shepherd. This point is emphasized with personal anecdotes, such as observing aimless shoppers at Wegmans and Vince Antonucci's transformation from a non-Christian skeptic to a passionate church planter motivated by his previous lostness. The speaker also acknowledges the significant challenges faced in church planting, such as feelings of unfruitfulness, betrayal, and scarcity of resources. He cites the importance of resilience and God's calling to reach lost people as the sustaining force during tough times. The narrative shifts to historical insights from the Book of Acts, illustrating the explosive growth of the early church through continuous discipleship and church planting, moving from addition to multiplication. The episode then explores the critical aspects of ensuring the health and doctrinal soundness of new churches. The speaker warns against the dangers of doctrinal drift and the potential for churches to adopt popular but unbiblical stances. This concern leads into a detailed explanation of the Renew Movement's approach to church planting, emphasizing sound theology, disciple-making, and structured support systems like assessment, training, and coaching. The Renew Movement aims to catalyze a church planting movement of healthy churches, overcoming common fears such as scarcity of resources, lack of expertise, and long-term health. The discussion underscores the importance of ordinary churches becoming church planting churches, challenging the notion that only large, resource-rich congregations can plant churches. The Renew Movement's unique strategy involves collaborative partnerships among churches—both large and small—to support new plants. This model includes financial contributions, shared leadership, and hands-on involvement, fostering a sense of ownership and vision among all participating congregations. The goal is to create a sustainable cycle of churches planting churches, reaching lost people, and expanding God's kingdom. In conclusion, the episode emphasizes the need for a shift from church growth to kingdom growth, highlighting the importance of surrender to Jesus' lordship and genuine discipleship. The speaker calls for a collective effort among churches to embrace the mission of church planting, ensuring doctrinal soundness and long-term health to effectively expand the kingdom of God. The session ends with a prayer, reaffirming the commitment to follow Jesus' guidance in building His church.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand the delicate balance between grace and truth in addressing the challenges of Progressive Christianity, through the lens of personal transformation and effective discipleship. This episode, titled "Dangers of Progressive Christianity," features a workshop led by Daniel McCoy, Editorial Director of renew.org, and his guest Dave Stovall, a recording artist, worship leader, and author of "Losing My Faith in Progressive Christianity." The workshop aims to address the challenges and perils associated with Progressive Christianity through Dave's personal journey. Daniel introduces Dave, thanking the audience for attending and sets the tone with a prayer, emphasizing empathy and wisdom in addressing the topic. Dave begins by sharing his background in a Southern Baptist church in Alabama, where he experienced teaching focused rigidly on black-and-white issues, leading him to question the interpretation of various scriptures. Dave describes his college years as a period of deep spiritual struggle, where he felt disconnected from God and faced criticism when he expressed doubts. His journey into Progressive Christianity began as he sought guidance from authors and bloggers, whose alternative theological perspectives resonated with him. This shift culminated in his adoption of progressive and universalist beliefs, particularly influenced by Rob Bell's "Love Wins." Despite initially feeling liberated and guilt-free under these new beliefs, Dave encountered a turning point when he became a father and questioned what faith he should instill in his children. This led him to a pivotal moment of sincere prayer, asking God to reveal the truth, regardless of where it led him. Subsequently, Dave met Bobby Harrington from Harpeth Christian Church, who played a crucial role in guiding him back to a more traditional understanding of Christianity. Bobby's approach involved patient mentorship, emphasizing the importance of understanding the original intent of scriptures, historical context, and guiding Dave through a process of rebuilding his faith within a supportive community. Throughout the workshop, Dave shares insights on the seductive appeal of Progressive Christianity, especially its emphasis on compassion and empathy, and the potential it holds for leading individuals away from foundational Christian beliefs. He highlights the importance of balancing grace and truth, suggesting that this balance is essential for genuine love and effective ministry. Daniel supplements the discussion by addressing how to define Progressive Christianity and the distinctions between essentials of faith, important beliefs, and personal preferences. He stresses the necessity of theological alignment within church leadership and the dangers of a church culture that leans too heavily on grace without truth. The workshop closes with practical advice for church leaders on fostering an environment where questions and doubts can be addressed openly without fear of judgment. The speakers emphasize the crucial role of discipleship and community in preventing young people from drifting into Progressive Christianity. In conclusion, the episode provides a comprehensive exploration of Dave Stovall's personal transformation from a Progressive Christian back to traditional faith, underscoring the importance of maintaining theological integrity while practicing compassion. The discussion is enriched by reflections on the relationship between empathy, truth, and discipleship within the church. It serves as both a cautionary tale and a guide for those navigating similar spiritual challenges.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us identify and avoid theological heresies by grounding our beliefs in the apostolic tradition, embracing the unity of God, and understanding the holistic nature of salvation. This episode, titled "How to be a Heretic," is a comprehensive discussion led by Chad Harrington who is both a business owner and a church ordination leader. The speaker dives into their diverse background, which includes theological training at Ozark Christian College and Asbury Theological Seminary, a brief stint in content marketing, and the founding of a media company focused on self-publishing and traditional book publishing. Their journey highlights a non-traditional calling to teach and write for the church.

Check out RENEW.org's Jobs board: https://jobs.renew.org/  Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand how to effectively find, attract, and integrate ministerial staff through modern strategies and interim solutions for enhanced church leadership transition. In this episode titled "How to Find Ministerial Staff," Greg Comp, a retired vocational minister, provides a detailed guide on effective strategies for churches to find ministerial staff.  Greg discusses his experience with Next Step Church Services and Renew.org, delineating the collaborative efforts in helping churches connect with suitable pastoral candidates. He highlights the challenges that churches face today due to outdated word-of-mouth and traditional networks that have largely become ineffective. He emphasizes the strategic value of having an interim pastor to guide churches through transitions, pointing out the benefits of intentional versus unintentional interim leadership. He argues that many churches have an inflated view of their attractiveness, which can deter candidates in a competitive pastoral marketplace. He calls for churches to make a paradigm shift rather than just seeking a quick personnel change. Greg also lists various interim solutions for churches in between pastors, such as rotations of current staff, weekend supply preaching, and part-time interim pastors. He shares insights on the challenges and inefficacies experienced with these approaches and advocates for intentional interim pastorship as the best practice. Specific tools and resources are discussed, including steps to create online postings for ministerial positions that attract high-quality candidates. He advises keeping these postings simple and focused on the church and community profiles while deferring detailed qualifications and responsibilities until later in the process. Greg further elaborates on how Renew.org's job board functions, illustrating how both churches and candidates can leverage it to find matches suitable for their needs. He underscores the importance of keeping listings current and compelling to stimulate interest and facilitate conversations. In conclusion, Greg re-emphasizes the value of interim pastors, describing their role in conducting health assessments of churches to identify areas needing improvement before a new permanent pastor is installed.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand how to holistically follow all of Jesus' commands, ensuring a balanced approach in personal discipleship and church community life. The episode revolves around understanding how thoroughly and holistically believers and church communities are adhering to the commands of Jesus. The speaker initiates the discussion by posing several reflective questions, emphasizing the potential neglect of specific commands either individually or within church groups. He highlights the Great Commission, which instructs disciples to obey all of Jesus' teachings, not selectively. A significant portion of the talk explores Jeff's sabbatical experiences, including his exploration of different Christian traditions such as the Jesuits, Desert Fathers and Mothers, and other historical church movements. These observations lead him to identify strengths and weaknesses in various church eras, such as the evangelical zeal of the early church and the doctrinal clarity but occasional superficial faith in later periods. Jeff advocates for a balanced approach to following Jesus' commands, cautioning against the common tendency to focus on preferred teachings while ignoring others. He stresses the importance of maintaining a holistic discipleship that includes personal spiritual practices, community life, and mission work. Practical implications for churches and individuals include reading the Gospels continuously, journaling to enhance obedience, focusing on the application of teachings rather than mere accumulation of knowledge, and consistently seeking guidance from the Holy Spirit. Church programming should prioritize biblical exposition of the Gospels and foster a culture of obedience and testimony sharing. The episode concludes with suggestions for churches to evaluate their practices and leadership structures. A collaborative team approach informed by Ephesians 4:11-16 can help ensure a balanced ministry. Churches should develop new metrics to measure success in spiritual growth holistically, rather than simply numerical growth or attendance. Finally, Jeff encourages listeners to stay vigilant about their devotion to Jesus' teachings and praises the potential for varied expressions of obedience across different times, cultures, and communities. He invites feedback and ongoing conversation on achieving comprehensive obedience to Jesus' commands in both individual and church life.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand the profound impact of cultural intelligence on the growth and adaptation of the Latino Christian community within diverse and evolving urban centers in the United States. The provided script titled "Latino Christian Movement" features a discussion and workshop led by Alex Diaz, the campus pastor at Trader Point Christian Church's Midtown campus. The episode focuses on cultural intelligence and the growth and adaptation of the Latino Christian community in the United States. Alex begins by introducing himself, sharing his background of immigrating from Venezuela to the U.S. and detailing his ministry journey across several states. He highlights significant demographic changes in cities like Indianapolis, depicting the rise in Latino populations and the proliferation of Hispanic restaurants even in traditionally white supremacist areas. The core of the workshop hinges on the concept of cultural intelligence, which is described as the ability to function effectively in culturally diverse settings. Alex explains the rapid demographic shifts occurring in the U.S., showcased by census data, and how these shifts indicate a future where urban centers will predominantly consist of minority communities, particularly Hispanic and multiracial groups. He emphasizes the importance of adapting church practices to reflect current and anticipated demographic realities, noting common misconceptions and anxieties about cultural change. Alex is joined by Pastor Miguel Lara of White River Christian Church, who shares his journey from Venezuela to the U.S., focusing on his experiences in leading a Hispanic ministry within a predominantly Anglo church. Miguel underscores the value of mutual respect, shared meals, and activities in fostering cross-cultural friendships and unity. He highlights various outreach programs, including sports ministries, marriage seminars, and mentoring initiatives, which have successfully integrated Hispanic members into the church community. Pastor Miguel also details practical steps his church has taken to serve and grow their Hispanic congregation, such as bilingual online presence, ESL programs, and culturally relevant outreach like the music program “Elma,” inspired by a similar initiative in Venezuela aimed at keeping youth engaged through orchestral music. Throughout the episode, multiple facets of building and sustaining multicultural congregations are discussed, including the importance of friendship, learning from each other, and leveraging existing church structures and processes. In conclusion, Alex and Miguel's stories highlight the broader strategic and operational measures necessary for churches to adapt to and embrace cultural diversity. They underline the inevitable demographic changes sweeping the U.S. and the need for churches to develop cultural intelligence as part of their mission to effectively minister to increasingly diverse communities.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand the transformative power of incorporating prayer and fasting into our spiritual practices, leading to deeper personal and communal spiritual growth. In this episode titled "Prayer and Fasting Ministry in Your Church," the speaker passionately emphasizes the importance of incorporating prayer and fasting into the spiritual practices of a church community. The presentation begins with a warm welcome and a logistical check to ensure everyone has necessary materials. The speaker highlights the significance of starting their time together with prayer, asking for God's presence and blessings on their discussions about spiritual disciplines, particularly prayer and fasting. The speaker shares personal insights and experiences, underscoring the transformative power of spiritual disciplines when integrated into everyday life. Emphasis is placed on prayer as a critical component of spiritual growth and ministry effectiveness. The speaker recounts how consistent prayer can lead to significant changes, both personally and within a church community. Anecdotes are shared to illustrate how prayer and fasting are frequently practiced by those who seek a deeper relationship with God and those who wish to bring about meaningful changes in their ministries. The narrative transitions into an examination of the frequency and importance of prayer in Jesus' life, highlighting that Jesus often retreated to solitary places to pray, showing the importance of finding time and space for uninterrupted communion with God. The speaker stresses that effective prayer requires dedication, discipline, and a genuine desire to communicate with God. Moving to the topic of fasting, the speaker defines fasting and describes it as abstaining from food or drinks (or other significant activities) for a designated period to focus on spiritual growth and God's purposes. The speaker clarifies fasting can extend beyond abstaining from food to include activities such as solitude, demonstrating that the essence of fasting is dedicating time to spiritual pursuits and seeking God's guidance. The speaker outlines various types of fasting observed in the Bible, including normal fasting (abstaining from food and drinking only water), partial fasting (abstaining from certain types of food), and absolute fasting (no food or water). They also discuss individual, group, and national fasts, emphasizing that fasting can be a powerful communal activity for a church. Practical advice on starting a fasting practice is provided, advising beginners to start small, such as fasting through one meal, and gradually extending the fasting period as they grow more comfortable. The speaker also offers guidance on planning, communicating with family, and ensuring fasting does not negatively impact health. Throughout the episode, the speaker highlights that fasting should be coupled with prayer, reading scripture, and reflecting on one's spiritual journey. They also remind listeners that God is pleased when His followers make sacrifices through fasting, underscoring the spiritual benefits and joys that come from engaging in these disciplines. In closing, the speaker encourages the audience to persist in their practices of prayer and fasting, promising that these disciplines will lead to personal and communal spiritual growth. They conclude with a heartfelt prayer, blessing everyone in the group and their respective ministries, stressing that through prayer and fasting, believers can draw closer to God and experience His power in transformative ways.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us gain a comprehensive understanding of the end times, including key theological concepts, personal anecdotes, and essential teachings, while emphasizing the urgency of discipleship and the eternal implications of our earthly choices. In this episode, Anthony Walker, a minister from the Highway 231 South Church of Christ in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, provides a comprehensive teaching on the end times, also known as eschatology. The session begins with Walker introducing himself and setting the expectation that this teaching will cover a broad spectrum of information, though only a portion may be addressed due to time constraints. He emphasizes the availability of a free ebook on renew.org and a podcast named "Scripture in Black and White" as additional resources for those interested in a more in-depth exploration of the topic. Walker delves into his personal history, recounting how the death of his father when he was a young child influenced his lifelong quest to understand life, death, and the end times. He shares poignant memories of grappling with the concept of death from an early age, and how his grandmother's profound yet simple theological guidance shaped his initial understanding of eschatology. Transitioning into the core teachings, Walker outlines the importance of distinguishing between essential, important, and disputable teachings within Christian doctrine. Using examples from both personal anecdotes and scripture, he explains that while some aspects of eschatology may be open to interpretation, there are fundamental elements that are universally accepted among Christians. These essentials include the belief in Christ's second coming, the resurrection of the dead, and God's final judgment. Walker breaks down what happens after death, referencing terms like "Sheol" from the Old Testament and "Hades" from the New Testament, to describe the intermediate state of the dead. He uses the parable of the rich man and Lazarus to illustrate the dichotomy between paradise (a place of comfort for the righteous) and Hades (a place of torment for the unrighteous). He addresses common questions about the afterlife, such as whether souls are inherently eternal and what happens immediately after death. The session also covers the second coming of Christ, highlighting that it will be visible, sudden, and unexpected, bringing glory to Christ and reuniting Christians. Walker discusses the resurrection of the dead and the final judgment, noting that it will be comprehensive and based on Jesus's teachings. He emphasizes that everyone will face judgment, and it will be both fair and final. Walker stresses the importance of living with an awareness of God's sovereignty and holiness. He points out that while God's love and grace are immense, His justice demands accountability. He vividly describes the horrors of hell as an irreversible punishment for those who reject Christ's atonement, contrasting it with the eternal joy and presence of God in heaven. In conclusion, Walker calls for an urgent commitment to discipleship, warning against complacency and underscoring the eternal implications of our earthly choices. The episode serves as both a theological exploration and a heartfelt appeal for believers to live in alignment with God's will, while also providing practical resources for further study on the end times.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us thrive in our calling by learning from personal experiences on understanding burnout, maintaining health, and multiplying our unique gifts without burning out. In the episode titled "Thrive in your Calling: Multiplying Disciples without Burning Out," the speaker, Christian, begins by expressing gratitude for participating in the workshop, emphasizing its purpose is to help attendees orient themselves towards where they want to go. He introduces his family and their extensive experience leading churches and doing missionary work around the world.  Christian shares his unique and tumultuous life story, detailing how his early life as a refugee and his diverse experiences across various countries shaped him. He describes significant hardships, such as being in a concentration camp, experiencing poverty, and undergoing multiple relocations. Despite these challenges, he pursued education in economics and a successful career in music, eventually becoming a pop star. However, at the height of his success, he faced clinical depression, which led him to Christianity. His conversion prompted a dramatic career change to ministry work, where he found new purpose and fulfillment. He later experienced a midlife crisis which forced him to recalibrate and reassess various aspects of his life, leading to a significant revival in his professional and personal life. The episode transitions to his wife, Deb, who shares her perspective on their life in Russia, dealing with her health issues exacerbated by the climate, and experiencing burnout. She emphasizes the importance of self-care and spiritual health, sharing practical steps she took to manage her wellbeing and avoid burnout. Deb outlines the stages of burnout, explaining the emotional and physical symptoms of each phase, and underscores the importance of rest, margin time, and maintaining a healthy routine. Christian then introduces three key shifts for thriving in one's calling without burning out. The first shift involves moving from survival mode to a state of clarity, creativity, and resilience, emphasizing the need to switch from fear-based living to one fueled by God's love and power. He illustrates this point using the relationship between Paul and Timothy, highlighting the importance of recognizing and nurturing one's specific gifts. The second shift focuses on identifying one's unique strengths and turning them into undeniable authority. Christian stresses that many ministry leaders lose their individuality by conforming to general roles, and he uses the parable of the talents to illustrate the necessity of multiplying one's gifts rather than burying them. He warns against rationalizations and excuses, urging leaders to take responsibility for their unique contributions. The final shift is to multiply one's gifts before multiplying disciples. He explains that effective discipleship stems from leaders who have developed and scaled their unique gifts. This involves creating systems and frameworks that allow their influence to be replicated and extended beyond their immediate reach. He underscores the potential for modern technology to vastly expand one's impact. The episode includes a testimonial from Greg, a ministry leader who experienced significant personal and professional transformation through Christian's coaching program. Greg highlights the positive changes in his marriage and ministry, attributing them to the reframing and intentionality fostered by the program. Christian concludes by offering further resources and support for those interested in deeper involvement, including a coaching cohort and an intensive workshop aimed at providing practical steps for implementing the discussed shifts. He encourages attendees to invest in their personal development to sustain their calling and avoid burnout.

This is part 1 of a 3 episode series.  Part Episode 1: Personal Journey & Church History Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand the journey, challenges, and vision of Black Christian leaders as they build community, overcome obstacles, and create a more inclusive future for their churches. This episode centers on a hosted gathering of African American members of Christian churches, led by Lamont Francis, senior pastor of Delta Bay Community Church. The session's primary aim is to foster a nationwide network and fellowship among Black Christian leaders, addressing both the challenges and opportunities unique to their communities. Lamont Francis opens by sharing his personal journey, beginning with his upbringing in San Francisco's Bayview-Hunters Point neighborhood. Raised by a single mother in a lower socioeconomic environment, Francis's early life was marked by resilience and faith. His academic path took him from the projects to Pepperdine University, where he experienced a significant cultural shift and met his first Black professor, Dr. David G. Holmes. This mentorship inspired Francis to consider ministry, though his initial ambitions were in media and entertainment. Francis recounts his formative years in ministry, starting in Bakersfield, California, where he learned humility and servanthood by performing tasks like driving the church van before being allowed to preach. This experience taught him the importance of knowing and serving the congregation before assuming leadership. Eventually, he returned to the Bay Area, taking on ministerial roles in small congregations and navigating the complexities of church leadership as a young, unmarried man. A pivotal moment in Francis's journey was his congregation's displacement due to racial tensions and resistance to integration within predominantly white Churches of Christ. After being asked to leave a shared church space, his group moved through various temporary locations before ultimately purchasing the very building from which they had been expelled. This full-circle moment underscored both the challenges and triumphs of Black congregations seeking stability and autonomy. The episode delves into the broader context of Black churches within the Restoration Movement, highlighting the isolation and legalism experienced within the Churches of Christ. Francis describes the difficult decision to leave this fellowship, motivated by a desire for greater inclusivity, growth, and freedom in worship practices. The transition to the Independent Christian Church was facilitated by connections with leaders like Gary Shear and organizations such as the Solomon Foundation, which provided support and a sense of belonging. Francis also addresses the lack of representation and support for Black congregations at national Christian conventions, such as ICOM, and the need for spaces where their voices and histories are recognized. He recounts efforts to build networks and host rallies focused on urban service and fellowship among Black Christians, though these initiatives faced challenges and eventual decline. A recurring theme is the importance of documenting and preserving the rich history of African American involvement in the Restoration Movement, particularly within Independent Christian Churches. Francis calls for the creation of resources, websites, and books to ensure this legacy is not forgotten. The episode concludes with a vision for the future: building a nationwide fellowship that honors the past while addressing contemporary needs, fostering unity, and creating opportunities for growth and leadership among Black Christian communities.

In this episode of the Real Life Theology podcast, the discussion delves into the stages of spiritual and emotional maturity as part of a four-part series on discipling people into emotional and spiritual health. The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding these stages: spiritual infants, children, young adults, parents, and grandparents. Key points include the necessity of emotional maturity for true spiritual growth, the identification of spiritual maturity through behavioral examples, and the essential role of guiding individuals through these stages. Additionally, the episode contrasts spiritual gifts with maturity, underscoring the difference between outward talents and true spiritual growth. For more insights and resources, join RENEW.org's Newsletter. Get our Premium podcast feed featuring all the breakout sessions from the RENEW gathering early, and join RENEW.org at one of our upcoming events. Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/

In this episode of the Real Life Theology podcast, part of a series on discipling people into emotional and spiritual health, the focus is on pathways to growth and healing. Key points include the importance of stage-appropriate transparency, understanding spiritual battles, identity in Christ, and the need for spiritual disciplines. The episode also delves into Marcus Warner's FISH acronym (Freedom, Identity, Spirit, and Heart-Focused Community), emphasizing the significance of freedom and identity for new believers. Additional topics cover supporting spiritual children, young adults, and the needs of spiritual parents and grandparents, alongside practical strategies for emotional well-being such as the real prayer method for healing trauma. The importance of humility, vulnerability, and ongoing emotional and spiritual growth is underscored throughout.  Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/

In the final episode of the Real Life Theology podcast's four-part series on discipling people into emotional and spiritual health, the focus is on implementing change. The episode discusses practical steps for integrating emotional and spiritual health within church congregations. Key points include the importance of prayer, establishing a long-term vision, and the slow nature of transformational change, which can take 7-10 years. Real-life examples from Uganda illustrate the challenges and perseverance required. Various resources and books are recommended to aid in this journey. Emphasis is placed on patience, intentionality, and starting small to ensure meaningful impact. Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ This episode features the 'Theological Thunderdome' session from the 2025 Renew gathering. Hosted by David Young, with several panelists. The discussion explores the radical ethics of the early church and their relevance today. They examine whether these ethics are reproducible in the modern era, touching upon issues like multi-ethnicity, care for the poor, non-violence, radical sexual ethics, and a pro-life stance. The panel also delves into the tension between living these ethics and participating in democratic governance, and the importance of humility in living out these values.

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ This episode of the Real Life Theology podcast, hosted by David Young, focuses on practical ways of making disciples with a sense of urgency. David emphasizes that disciple making requires genuine love for others and the willingness to invest in relationships. He uses personal anecdotes and examples from scripture to illustrate the importance of relational disciple making. Various strategies and methods, such as Discovery Bible Studies, are discussed to help individuals and churches cultivate a disciple-making culture. David also addresses challenges like disciple-making fatigue and suggests integrating discipleship into existing church activities. The podcast concludes with actionable steps, emphasizing prayer, intentionality, and leveraging current relationships to start discipling others effectively.

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ The episode features Carl and Alicia Williamson from Harding University discussing a training session on disciple-making called 'Multiplying Disciples on College Campuses and Beyond.' This session is on big-picture strategies. Carl, a Bible professor, and Alicia, a Bible faculty member, share their experiences in church planting and working with emerging adults. They emphasize the role of prayer, accountability, vision, and expectation (PAVE) in fostering a disciple-making movement. They recount various personal stories and examples of how these principles have led to the multiplication of disciple-making groups among students, ultimately inspiring transformational faith journeys. The script also includes a practical component where participants are encouraged to pray and reflect on God's role in their disciple-making efforts.

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ The episode features Carl and Alicia Williamson from Harding University discussing a training session on disciple-making called 'Multiplying Disciples on College Campuses and Beyond.' This session is on a specific disciple-making process,

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ The episode features Carl and Alicia Williamson from Harding University discussing a training session on disciple-making called 'Multiplying Disciples on College Campuses and Beyond.' This session is on useful disciple-making tools accompanied by a Q&A. 

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ and get our Premium podcast feed: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/. Join RENEW.org at an upcoming event: https://renew.org/resources/events/ In this episode of the Real Life Theology Podcast, recorded during the 2025 RENEW Gathering Monday Night Session, leaders from Renew Creative explore why creatives are essential to disciple making in the local church—and how discipling artists helps the whole church slow down and savor what truly matters

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us understand how structured internships and residencies can develop effective leaders for new church plants, ensuring sustainable growth within church communities. In this episode titled "Internships and Residencies," Sean Cronin, the training lead at Passion for Planting, and Patrick Ferguson from New Life Christian Church, discuss the importance of internships and residencies in fostering leadership development within church communities. Sean opens by welcoming attendees to the workshop, sharing the mission of Passion for Planting, and introducing Patrick, who will cover internships while Sean will address residencies. Sean highlights the significance of leadership development, emphasizing the critical need to support young leaders through structured programs like internships and residencies to address the ongoing demand for church plants. He cites statistics that illustrate the decline of churches in the United States, juxtaposed with growing population rates, underscoring the urgency to equip new leaders to plant churches.   Patrick delves into the nature of internships at New Life Christian Church, emphasizing investment in personal development and ministry skills rather than viewing interns as free labor. He describes the recruitment process, which is largely relational and involves tapping into networks, colleges, and references from former interns. Once recruited, interns are matched with roles within the church that align with their interests and strengths, ensuring a beneficial learning experience. An intern coach provides guidance, spiritual development, and organizes group activities, fostering a supportive community. Sean returns to outline the residency program created in 2015, designed for future church planters. This program spans nine months and includes weekly Zoom meetings and two onsite intensives to provide comprehensive training, vision clarification, and strategic planning. Various stories of past residents, from diverse backgrounds and experiences, illustrate how the residency prepares participants for successful church planting. Sean emphasizes the collaborative nature of the residency, where participants share insights, support each other, and learn from experienced leaders. The discussion also tackles the crucial qualities to look for in potential church planters, such as humility, teachability, and leadership skills. Sean advises hosting "I see in you" conversations to identify and encourage potential leaders who may not recognize their own calling to ministry. He stresses the importance of formal assessment and training to ensure church planters are adequately prepared for the challenges ahead. Questions from the audience are addressed, clarifying the actionable steps for different scenarios, whether for ongoing internships or potential residents. For instance, it is noted that residency programs are typically post-college and last nine to twelve months, whereas internships are generally over the summer. Patrick explains how the program involves personalized support, with each intern or resident being provided a coach and clear pathways for development. The episode wraps up with Sean inviting interested parties to an upcoming webinar and a lunch meeting to learn more about the renew movement, a network initiative aimed at empowering churches to plant new congregations. The Q&A session provides further insights into practical details, program structure, and how churches can support aspiring leaders through well-structured internships and residencies. Overall, this episode offers a detailed exploration of how strategic programs can nurture leadership within the church community, ensuring the growth and sustainability of new church plants.  

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us thrive in our calling by learning from personal experiences on understanding burnout, maintaining health, and multiplying our unique gifts without burning out. In the episode titled "Thrive in your Calling: Multiplying Disciples without Burning Out," the speaker, Christian, begins by expressing gratitude for participating in the workshop, emphasizing its purpose is to help attendees orient themselves towards where they want to go. He introduces his family and their extensive experience leading churches and doing missionary work around the world.  Christian shares his unique and tumultuous life story, detailing how his early life as a refugee and his diverse experiences across various countries shaped him. He describes significant hardships, such as being in a concentration camp, experiencing poverty, and undergoing multiple relocations. Despite these challenges, he pursued education in economics and a successful career in music, eventually becoming a pop star. However, at the height of his success, he faced clinical depression, which led him to Christianity. His conversion prompted a dramatic career change to ministry work, where he found new purpose and fulfillment. He later experienced a midlife crisis which forced him to recalibrate and reassess various aspects of his life, leading to a significant revival in his professional and personal life. The episode transitions to his wife, Deb, who shares her perspective on their life in Russia, dealing with her health issues exacerbated by the climate, and experiencing burnout. She emphasizes the importance of self-care and spiritual health, sharing practical steps she took to manage her wellbeing and avoid burnout. Deb outlines the stages of burnout, explaining the emotional and physical symptoms of each phase, and underscores the importance of rest, margin time, and maintaining a healthy routine. Christian then introduces three key shifts for thriving in one's calling without burning out. The first shift involves moving from survival mode to a state of clarity, creativity, and resilience, emphasizing the need to switch from fear-based living to one fueled by God's love and power. He illustrates this point using the relationship between Paul and Timothy, highlighting the importance of recognizing and nurturing one's specific gifts. The second shift focuses on identifying one's unique strengths and turning them into undeniable authority. Christian stresses that many ministry leaders lose their individuality by conforming to general roles, and he uses the parable of the talents to illustrate the necessity of multiplying one's gifts rather than burying them. He warns against rationalizations and excuses, urging leaders to take responsibility for their unique contributions. The final shift is to multiply one's gifts before multiplying disciples. He explains that effective discipleship stems from leaders who have developed and scaled their unique gifts. This involves creating systems and frameworks that allow their influence to be replicated and extended beyond their immediate reach. He underscores the potential for modern technology to vastly expand one's impact. The episode includes a testimonial from Greg, a ministry leader who experienced significant personal and professional transformation through Christian's coaching program. Greg highlights the positive changes in his marriage and ministry, attributing them to the reframing and intentionality fostered by the program. Christian concludes by offering further resources and support for those interested in deeper involvement, including a coaching cohort and an intensive workshop aimed at providing practical steps for implementing the discussed shifts. He encourages attendees to invest in their personal development to sustain their calling and avoid burnout.

Get early access to all of the 2025 RENEW Gathering Breakout Tracks: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Visit RENEW.org for great resources on Disciple Making and Theology.  Today's episode will help us thrive in our calling by learning from personal experiences on understanding burnout, maintaining health, and multiplying our unique gifts without burning out. In the episode titled "Thrive in your Calling: Multiplying Disciples without Burning Out," the speaker, Christian, begins by expressing gratitude for participating in the workshop, emphasizing its purpose is to help attendees orient themselves towards where they want to go. He introduces his family and their extensive experience leading churches and doing missionary work around the world.  Christian shares his unique and tumultuous life story, detailing how his early life as a refugee and his diverse experiences across various countries shaped him. He describes significant hardships, such as being in a concentration camp, experiencing poverty, and undergoing multiple relocations. Despite these challenges, he pursued education in economics and a successful career in music, eventually becoming a pop star. However, at the height of his success, he faced clinical depression, which led him to Christianity. His conversion prompted a dramatic career change to ministry work, where he found new purpose and fulfillment. He later experienced a midlife crisis which forced him to recalibrate and reassess various aspects of his life, leading to a significant revival in his professional and personal life. The episode transitions to his wife, Deb, who shares her perspective on their life in Russia, dealing with her health issues exacerbated by the climate, and experiencing burnout. She emphasizes the importance of self-care and spiritual health, sharing practical steps she took to manage her wellbeing and avoid burnout. Deb outlines the stages of burnout, explaining the emotional and physical symptoms of each phase, and underscores the importance of rest, margin time, and maintaining a healthy routine. Christian then introduces three key shifts for thriving in one's calling without burning out. The first shift involves moving from survival mode to a state of clarity, creativity, and resilience, emphasizing the need to switch from fear-based living to one fueled by God's love and power. He illustrates this point using the relationship between Paul and Timothy, highlighting the importance of recognizing and nurturing one's specific gifts. The second shift focuses on identifying one's unique strengths and turning them into undeniable authority. Christian stresses that many ministry leaders lose their individuality by conforming to general roles, and he uses the parable of the talents to illustrate the necessity of multiplying one's gifts rather than burying them. He warns against rationalizations and excuses, urging leaders to take responsibility for their unique contributions. The final shift is to multiply one's gifts before multiplying disciples. He explains that effective discipleship stems from leaders who have developed and scaled their unique gifts. This involves creating systems and frameworks that allow their influence to be replicated and extended beyond their immediate reach. He underscores the potential for modern technology to vastly expand one's impact. The episode includes a testimonial from Greg, a ministry leader who experienced significant personal and professional transformation through Christian's coaching program. Greg highlights the positive changes in his marriage and ministry, attributing them to the reframing and intentionality fostered by the program. Christian concludes by offering further resources and support for those interested in deeper involvement, including a coaching cohort and an intensive workshop aimed at providing practical steps for implementing the discussed shifts. He encourages attendees to invest in their personal development to sustain their calling and avoid burnout.

Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ Get our Premium podcast feed featuring all the breakout sessions from the RENEW gathering early.  https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Join RENEW.org at one of our upcoming events: https://renew.org/resources/events/ In this session, Josh Howard discusses principles and practices for initiating disciple-making movements within local church settings. Drawing from both biblical and contemporary examples, Josh emphasizes radical prayer and fasting, abundant seed sowing of the gospel, equipping ordinary believers, and relinquishing control for broader kingdom impact. He introduces a parallel track model, where dedicated discipleship pathways run alongside traditional church structures. The session includes insights from Brian King and David Kaufman on practical training methods, case studies of successful implementations, and strategies for church leaders to foster a culture of multiplication. The session concludes with a call for unity and renewed vision for bringing revival and awakening to American churches.

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In this episode of the Real Life Theology podcast, the discussion centers around the implementation of disciple-making movements within and alongside established church structures. The hosts weigh the pros and cons of running parallel disciple-making initiatives either under a single church umbrella or as independent entities. They highlight the importance of aligning church vision with biblical examples and modern pathways, emphasizing swift transition from being found by Christ to becoming a leader. The conversation also covers practical steps for churches to adopt these principles, including training programs and cohorts designed to foster rapid disciple multiplication. The episode underscores the need for a strategic commitment to God's broader vision for community transformation. Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ Get our Premium podcast feed featuring all the breakout sessions from the RENEW gathering early.  https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Join RENEW.org at one of our upcoming events: https://renew.org/resources/events/

This episode of the Real Life Theology podcast is part four of a series exploring disciple making movements within established churches. The focus is on how fresh revival movements have historically arisen every 50 years in the U.S. The discussion highlights the urgency for a new awakening, expected around 2025, and emphasizes the necessity for intentional disciple pathways in churches. It also covers developing hybrid church models, strategies to foster movement thinking, and collective collaboration among churches. The episode concludes with practical advice, book recommendations, and personal anecdotes from the speaker, followed by a Q&A session addressing the implementation of these concepts. Join RENEW.org's Newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ Get our Premium podcast feed featuring all the breakout sessions from the RENEW gathering early.  https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/  Join RENEW.org at one of our upcoming events: https://renew.org/resources/events/