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During this special collaboration series, Travis and his producer, Eric, who hosts his own podcast, Preacher Boys, discuss the alleged mismanagement of funds in a case in North Carolina. The overlap of ministry and business is broken down in this heavy but much needed conversation. Check out Eric's show shining light on more issues like this: https://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoys Connect with Travis: - IG: https://instagram.com/travischappell - Website: https://travischappell.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis sits down with Tim Vipond, co-founder and CEO of Corporate Finance Institute (CFI), a global leader in online financial education and certification. With a background spanning investment banking, wealth management, and corporate strategy, Tim has built a platform that has helped millions of professionals level up their finance careers. After over a decade in the corporate world, Tim leveraged his diverse experience to create a scalable, global education business that's raised over $48 million and continues to grow rapidly. On this episode we talk about: Tim's early career journey through investment banking, wealth management, and corporate roles Why impatience can actually be a superpower in entrepreneurship How Corporate Finance Institute scaled to millions of users worldwide The power of simplicity in building and scaling an online education business Content marketing, SEO, and YouTube as core growth drivers Top 3 Takeaways Diverse experience can feel scattered in the moment—but can become your biggest advantage later when building something unique. Simplicity scales—focusing on one core product and doing it exceptionally well can outperform trying to do everything. Content marketing is a long-term game, but when done right, it becomes a powerful and sustainable growth engine. Notable Quotes "Going through it, there were times where I felt a little bit lost—but it ended up being the perfect background for what I'm doing now." "Impatience actually helped me as an entrepreneur—we just needed to get stuff done." "We don't want to be everything to everyone—we just want to be amazing at a few things." Connect with Tim Vipond: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timvipond/ Website: https://vipond.com/about/tim-vipond/ Other: https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis sits down with his CFO, Pam Jordan, to break down the financial performance of the podcast business in Q1 of 2026. Pam brings deep financial expertise working with hundreds of businesses, offering a behind-the-scenes look at revenue, profit margins, and cash flow strategy. Together, they explore what it really takes to build a profitable content-driven business—and the calculated risks required to scale it. On this episode we talk about: Breaking down $140K in Q1 podcast revenue and where it came from Why podcast advertising is the primary (and most profitable) revenue stream The impact of cash flow timing and delayed payments on financial reporting Balancing high-margin content businesses with long-term scalability How entrepreneurs should evaluate risk using data, goals, and scenario planning Top 3 Takeaways High-margin businesses like podcasting can be extremely profitable—but often lack predictability without reinvestment into growth. Cash flow timing matters just as much as revenue—what looks like a “down” month may just be delayed payments. The best investment decisions align with your long-term goals and pass both best-case and worst-case scenario tests. Notable Quotes "It's not just what you make—it's what you keep." "If your content can pay for itself and put money in your pocket, it's worth doing." "Take the risk—but make it an educated one." Connect with Travis: Instagram: https://instagram.com/travischappell Website: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

During this special collaboration series, Travis and his producer, Eric, who hosts his own podcast, Preacher Boys, discuss the alleged mismanagement of funds in a case in North Carolina. The overlap of ministry and business is broken down in this heavy but much needed conversation. Check out Eric's show shining light on more issues like this: https://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoys Connect with Travis: - IG: https://instagram.com/travischappell - Website: https://travischappell.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara D. Morell is a visionary founder, global speaker, and entrepreneur dedicated to redefining wealth, legacy, and community. From overcoming extreme hardship as a single mom on food stamps to speaking in front of massive global audiences, Sara has built multiple ventures including Sanctuary—an eco-luxury, self-sustaining community—and Deal Make Hers, a platform empowering women in business and investing. Her work blends entrepreneurship, purpose, and impact, helping others create wealth while staying aligned with their values. On this episode we talk about: Sara's journey from financial hardship to becoming a highly paid speaker Building Sanctuary and the vision behind self-sustaining communities The importance of intuition and resilience in entrepreneurship How to choose the right business partners and avoid costly mistakes Balancing motherhood, business, and building a meaningful legacy Top 3 Takeaways Your starting point doesn't define your ceiling—consistent action and belief can radically change your trajectory. Intuition and value alignment are critical when choosing partners and making big business decisions. Wealth isn't just financial—it's about legacy, relationships, and creating a life that feels aligned and fulfilling. Notable Quotes "I could do what I love to do and actually get paid for it." "If your body is closing down, don't ignore it—that's your intuition speaking." "You don't have to choose—you can build a life where both family and business thrive together." Connect with Sara D. Morell: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saradmorrell Other: Sanctuary & Deal Make Hers (via Instagram links)  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this follow-up solo episode, Travis continues his breakdown of the top regrets of the dying—focusing on relationships, happiness, and the hidden cost of inaction. Building on the first three regrets, he dives into why friendships fade, how loneliness impacts both health and fulfillment, and why choosing happiness is more within your control than you think. This episode connects the dots between life decisions, emotional well-being, and building a version of success that actually feels worth it. On this episode we talk about: Why losing touch with friends is one of the biggest regrets people have The long-term impact of loneliness on health, happiness, and fulfillment How to intentionally maintain and build meaningful friendships as life gets busy Why happiness is a choice—and how perspective shapes your experience of life The science behind regret and why inaction weighs heavier than failure Top 3 Takeaways Strong relationships are the #1 driver of happiness—don't let friendships fall to the bottom of your priority list. You will regret the risks you didn't take far more than the ones you did—inaction compounds over time. Happiness isn't something you find—it's something you allow, often through gratitude and perspective. Notable Quotes "Don't let people who won't be in your life in five years control your decisions today." "You don't need more stuff—you need more people to share your life with." "If the worst case scenario isn't death, then you can handle it." Connect with Travis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode, host Travis Chappell is joined in-studio by his producer Eric for a candid breakdown of how influencer marketing has evolved from wild-west swipe-up deals to long-term brand partnerships and creator-led product companies. They unpack why “buying trust” is the real asset behind celebrity endorsements, how brands and creators both burned themselves in the first big influencer bubble, and what actually works now if you're trying to monetize an audience. On this episode we talk about: Why brands pay celebrities and athletes: they're not buying reach, they're buying trust with an audience. How early influencer deals (like Kardashians promoting tea) turned pennies into multi-six-figure revenue and sparked an overspending bubble. Why follower count alone no longer converts, and why alignment between creator, product, and audience matters more than raw views. The shift from big celebrity endorsements to UGC and niche influencers as brands take traffic “in-house” and cut costs. How creators can move beyond one-off sponsorships into equity, co-branded products, and launching their own brands (MrBeast x Jack Link's, Prime, Sour Strips, etc.). Top 3 Takeaways The real leverage in influencer marketing is audience trust, not just attention; views without trust rarely translate into sales anymore. Both brands and creators need to evolve past short-term sponsored posts toward deeper, longer-term partnerships or creator-owned products with actually good R&D-backed offerings. If you're a creator, your most valuable asset is your built-in test group of loyal fans—use it to launch or co-create products instead of relying solely on unpredictable ad deals. Notable Quotes “They're not buying followers; they're buying trust. That's why Nike spends tens of billions on athletes—they're literally paying to borrow the relationship those people already have with their audience.” “Your brand will get people to try something once, but it will never make up for a bad product—if the product sucks, trust erodes and the sales die.” “Influencer marketing isn't dead; it just graduated. If you want to make real money now, you can't just be the ad space—you have to become part of the brand.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other (Website): https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the all-in-one sales and marketing platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike Swigunski is an entrepreneur, investor, and bestselling author focused on helping people earn from anywhere in the world. As an early team member at Empire Flippers, he helped facilitate over $120M in online business acquisitions. Now, as the founder of Global Career and Dividends Capital, Mike is building platforms that allow everyday investors to access passive income through established online businesses. Having traveled to over 100 countries and built multiple remote companies, he brings a truly global perspective on making money online. On this episode we talk about: How Mike got started flipping furniture and discovered arbitrage The reality of buying online businesses vs. starting from scratch What makes a “good” acquisition (and what to avoid) How to structure deals using seller financing and reduce risk Using AI to scale and optimize existing businesses Top 3 Takeaways Buying a business can accelerate your path to income—but only if you understand what to look for and have the right support. Recurring revenue businesses with strong margins and simple operations offer the best risk-adjusted opportunities. The real upside in acquisitions comes from improving conversion, marketing, and operations—not just buying growth. Notable Quotes "I was making more money flipping furniture than I was working on the trading floor." "The broker is not representing you—you need someone on your side." "I'm not trying to find the rocket ship—I'm looking for the flat line I can scale." Connect with Mike Swigunski: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeswigunski Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeswigunski Webiste: https://mikeswigunski.com/ Other: https://globalcareerbook.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode, Travis reflects on powerful lessons from end-of-life regrets and how they connect directly to money, career decisions, and personal fulfillment. Drawing from research by a palliative care nurse and his own life experiences, he challenges listeners to rethink playing it safe, working too much, and letting fear dictate their path—while offering a more intentional approach to building a life (and income) that actually aligns with what matters most. On this episode we talk about: The top regrets people have at the end of their lives—and why they matter now Choosing authenticity over expectations from family, society, or authority figures The hidden cost of overworking and missing life's most meaningful moments How fear drives decision-making and keeps people from pursuing big opportunities Building a money strategy that supports your ideal life—not just your bank account Top 3 Takeaways The biggest regret people have isn't financial—it's not living a life true to themselves. Working hard is valuable, but not when it comes at the expense of time with the people who matter most. Letting fear dictate your decisions leads to a lifetime of “what ifs”—calculated risk is necessary for a fulfilling life. Notable Quotes "You're the only one who has to wake up and look at yourself in the mirror every single day." "Don't spend 365 days living a life you don't want just to impress people you see five days a year." "Your kids won't learn courage from what you say—they'll learn it from what you do." Connect with Travis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis sits down to debrief a powerful conversation with bestselling author and former Navy SEAL Jack Carr. Known for his high-intensity thrillers and the hit series adaptation of The Terminal List, Jack's journey from elite military service to fiction powerhouse is anything but typical. What makes him stand out isn't just his background—it's his unwavering certainty, disciplined focus, and refusal to compromise on the quality of his work. On this episode we talk about: The power of singular focus and committing fully to one path Why “delusional belief” can be a competitive advantage How Jack Carr transitioned from Navy SEAL to bestselling fiction author The realities of adapting books into TV and film (and letting go of control) Why quality and long-term thinking beat rushing to publish Top 3 Takeaways Absolute clarity and commitment to one goal can eliminate distractions and accelerate success. Belief alone isn't enough—but belief paired with consistent action changes how you show up and creates opportunities. Taking the time to create exceptional work pays off more than rushing to meet deadlines or chasing quick wins. Notable Quotes "Why would I do it if I didn't believe it would be this big?" "You can't just write it on a vision board—you have to act accordingly." "I don't want to put my name on something that isn't the best it can be." Connect with Travis: Instagram: https://instagram.com/travischappell Website: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bill Perkins is a hedge fund manager, film producer, high-stakes poker player, and bestselling author of Die With Zero. Known for his unconventional philosophy on money and life, Bill challenges the traditional approach to saving and wealth-building by emphasizing fulfillment, intentional living, and maximizing life experiences. His perspective blends financial acumen with a deep focus on living a rich, meaningful life—not just accumulating wealth. On this episode we talk about: Bill's early journey from a struggling clerk to hedge fund manager The mindset shift that helped him believe wealth was possible Why money is a tool—not the end goal The concept of “memory dividends” and maximizing life experiences How to balance saving, investing, and actually enjoying your life Top 3 Takeaways Money is only valuable when it's used to create meaningful life experiences—don't confuse wealth accumulation with fulfillment. “Memory dividends” compound over time, making experiences often more valuable than delayed consumption. You should align your spending and saving with different life stages—what you value (and can physically enjoy) changes over time. Notable Quotes "The money is just a tool for the life that you want." "If you're not in the arena, you have no chance." "When's the party? What are you saving all this money for?" Connect with Bill Perkins: Twitter/X: https://x.com/bp22 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/billperkins Other: Die With Zero   Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Producer Eric joins Travis in the newly rearranged studio to vent about a brutal budget-airline trip that destroyed camera gear, froze passengers on the tarmac, and turned a simple flight into a four‑and‑a‑half‑hour odyssey via Denver. Along the way, the two dig into how airlines design systems that feel impossible to navigate, and what tradeoffs are actually worth paying for when you travel a lot for business. This is a funny, highly relatable episode for anyone who flies budget carriers to save money but pays for it in time, stress, and broken equipment. On this episode we talk about: How Frontier destroyed their tripod and sent Joanna on an hour‑long customer service loop with zero resolution. Why airline support systems feel intentionally designed to avoid helping you (and how that shows up at baggage desks and hotlines). Eric's nightmare cold-weather boarding experience in Denver, with wheelchairs, crying kids, and 20 minutes freezing on the tarmac. The real economics and ethics of ultra‑cheap flights, from standing‑room “saddle seats” to charging passengers to use the restroom. Which travel “extras” are actually essential (TSA PreCheck, lounges) versus non‑essential depending on how often you fly. Top 3 Takeaways Budget airlines might save you money on the ticket, but they often cost you far more in broken gear, time delays, and emotional energy, especially if you fly for work. Airline customer service loops are often structured to deflect responsibility, so if you choose ultra‑low‑cost carriers, you need to assume minimal support when things go wrong. For frequent travelers, paying for things like TSA PreCheck and lounge access can be a worthwhile investment in comfort, productivity, and sanity—even if the base fare is higher. Notable Quotes “Basically you have built a system that is designed to not help anybody do anything.” “I paid 78 bucks five years ago so I never have to go in the regular line.” “I'll pay the extra money for a better seat on Frontier just so I can get a direct flight—even though I know it's not going to be a great experience.” Connect with Travis: • LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell⁠ • Linktree: ⁠https://linktr.ee/travischappell⁠ • Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/travischappell⁠ • Other: ⁠https://travischappell.com⁠ Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Piera Gelardi is a creative entrepreneur, speaker, and artist best known as the co-founder of Refinery29 and the visionary behind 29Rooms. Now the founder of Numa Luma and author of The Playful Way, Piera helps individuals and organizations tap into creativity, connection, and joy through the power of play. Blending art, business, and personal development, she brings a fresh perspective on how play can be a serious advantage in both life and work. On this episode we talk about: Why play isn't a reward for hard work—but the fuel behind it How to integrate a “playful mindset” into your daily work and leadership style The concept of “plork” and blending play with productivity How Piera overcame burnout by reconnecting with her creative instincts Balancing intuition with expert advice when scaling a business Top 3 Takeaways Play is not frivolous—it's a powerful tool that enhances creativity, resilience, and problem-solving in both business and life. You don't need to separate work and play; adopting a playful mindset can transform even the most routine or high-pressure tasks. Trust your intuition as a creator or leader, but use outside input as collaboration—not a replacement for your vision. Notable Quotes "Play is actually the fuel in your tank to do the hard work—and to do it with more creativity, connection, and joy." "In any moment, we can choose the pressured way or the playful way." "Why do you think you have to become a different person to get to the next level of success?" Connect with Piera Gelardi: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piera-luisa-gelardi-3493336/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pieraluisa Other: Website: https://www.pieragelardi.com Nooma Looma App: Available for download Book: The Playful Way  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this solo episode, Travis breaks down the real first steps of starting a business without getting lost in legal paperwork, logos, and websites that do not actually bring in revenue. Drawing from his own journey and his clients' experiences, Travis shows you how to validate an offer fast, get your first paying customers, and only then worry about formal structures like LLCs and bank accounts. On this episode we talk about: Why obsessing over LLCs, websites, logos, and merch keeps you from making your first dollar. The only two things you truly need to start a business: something to sell and someone to sell it to. How to pick a specific customer avatar, identify their real problems, and build a simple offer that solves them. Why service-based offers are the fastest way to get started, even if you do not see yourself as “the best” in your niche. How to price your first deals, raise your rates over your first 5–20 clients, and discover your true price ceiling. Top 3 Takeaways: Stop overcomplicating your first business. You do not need a perfect brand, LLC, or website to get started; you need a clear problem you can solve, a simple offer, and a few people willing to pay you for it. Start with a scrappy sales-first approach. Use basic tools (even a personal PayPal account) to collect money, validate that people will pay for your solution, and then reinvest that cash into formalizing your business structure. Earn your way into higher prices. For your first handful of clients, prioritize proof and results over profit, then gradually raise prices with each new customer until the market tells you where the ceiling is. Notable Quotes: “All you really need to get started is something to sell and people to sell it to. That is it.” “You are putting all this extra work into an unproven concept, and it is literally preventing you from taking the first step.” “The first money I ever made online was the most important money, because it proved to me that it was actually possible.” Connect with Travis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Website: https://www.travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the all-in-one sales and marketing platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode, Travis and his producer Eric dive into the Live Nation/Ticketmaster antitrust verdict and what it really means for fans, artists, and everyday consumers trying to enjoy live events without getting gouged. They also draw parallels to platforms like Yelp and the Better Business Bureau, unpacking how pay‑to‑play review systems quietly hurt small businesses and distort trust online. This conversation blends current events with real small‑business experience, from running an Ever Bowl location to watching reviews disappear unless you pay for ads, and contrasts it all with fan‑first models like the Savannah Bananas. On this episode we talk about: The federal jury verdict that found Live Nation/Ticketmaster operated as a monopoly under federal and state antitrust laws How Ticketmaster's control of venues, promotion, and ticketing lets them stack fees and suppress competition Why platforms like Yelp feel “mafia‑style” to small business owners and how their “not recommended” filters quietly bury real reviews The exploding cost of live events like Coachella and why attending a “simple” festival now runs into the thousands How fan‑first models like the Savannah Bananas show a different way to price tickets, remove junk fees, and build long‑term brand equity Top 3 Takeaways Monopolies don't just mean higher prices; they often mean worse experiences, fewer choices, and bullying tactics behind the scenes for venues, artists, and fans. If your business depends on platforms like Yelp, you're playing in someone else's sandbox, and their opaque algorithms and ad pressure can erase years of hard‑earned social proof overnight. There is real opportunity for creators and companies who are willing to take short‑term profit hits—like eliminating junk fees or doing their own ticketing—to build massive trust and loyalty by putting fans and customers first. Notable Quotes “The only thing on this planet I hate more than Coffee Bean is Ticketmaster.” “What's even crazier is the volume of people who can't afford to be doing that.” “Money only solves your money problems, but it's easier to solve the rest of your problems when you got some money in the bank.” Connect with Travis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All‑In‑One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

George Antone is the founder and CEO of Fynanc, a guided wealth technology company focused on helping individuals grow their money faster and more efficiently. With a background in math, technology, and years of experience at Intuit, George has developed innovative frameworks around leverage, velocity of money, and strategic investing that have helped over 10,000 people take control of their financial futures. On this episode we talk about: How George's early exposure to entrepreneurship shaped his mindset around money Why building skills first is critical before pursuing entrepreneurship The difference between an “asset-first” vs. “finance-first” approach to wealth How leverage, spread, reinvestment, and sequencing accelerate wealth building Practical ways to increase income and use it to fuel long-term investments Top 3 Takeaways Wealth isn't built by picking the “right” asset—it's built by increasing the speed (velocity) at which your money grows. Strategic use of leverage can accelerate wealth, but only when assets are stable, cash-flowing, and properly structured. Focus the majority of your time on increasing income and skills—those are the true drivers that fuel long-term investing success. Notable Quotes "Don't fall in love with an asset—fall in love with how you combine them." "The speed at which you build wealth is more important than the asset itself." "Spend 90% of your time on earning more—because you can only cut expenses to zero." Connect with George Antone: Website: https://fynanc.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this solo episode, Travis dives into the current state of side hustles and how to choose ones that can actually change your financial life, not just cover a few extra bills. He breaks down the difference between quick-cash gigs and side hustles that can realistically replace your full-time income over time. On this episode we talk about: The current “state of side hustles” and why they're more popular than ever. The difference between trading time for money vs. building something scalable. Examples of fast-start side hustles like social media agencies and AI consulting. Why some common side hustles (like pet sitting and dog walking) are hard to scale. How to know when it's time to go full-time on your side hustle. Top 3 Takeaways Ask one key question before starting: “Is this potentially scalable?”—can this side hustle grow beyond just your time-for-money and eventually replace a meaningful portion of your salary? Prioritize side hustles that can be spun up quickly (like social media management or AI consulting) but also have room to grow into an agency or larger business. A smart path is to build your side hustle up to a sizable percentage of your annual salary, then evaluate whether you enjoy it enough—and have enough savings—to quit and go all in for 6–12 months. Notable Quotes “My biggest encouragement to anybody who's starting a side hustle is to ask yourself the question, ‘Is this potentially scalable?'” “Dog sitting is not super scalable unless you build a network of dog sitters—and that's harder when apps like Rover already exist.” “What would happen if I took the next six months, quit my job, and just did this thing full-time?” Connect with Travis Chapel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other (Website): https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're throwing it back to an old style episode we used to do where we took a theme and combined parts of different interviews that spoke to that theme. On this mashup, we talked all things showbiz. From movies to comedy to production, Travis covers it all with this special edition of Travis Makes Money episode. Let us know what you think- should we bring this style back? Connect with Travis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist and New York Times bestselling author of The Power of Habit, Smarter Faster Better, and Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection. A graduate of Yale and Harvard Business School, he writes for The New Yorker and has spent his career decoding how habits, productivity, and communication shape success in business and life. In this conversation, Charles breaks down the science behind “super communication,” how to handle emotionally charged conversations, and why mastering these skills is one of the highest‑ROI ways to make more money. On this episode we talk about: How Charles went from third‑grade sticker arbitrage to Harvard Business School, private equity, and ultimately a career writing blockbuster business books. Why business stories—and the drama, risk, and reward inside companies—make for the most compelling lessons about money and careers. The three types of conversations (practical, emotional, and social/identity) and why mismatching them destroys connection. Motivational interviewing: how to ask questions that move people toward better decisions without arguing, lecturing, or triggering defensiveness. How to protect friendships and relationships in a polarized world by getting curious instead of furious, asking deep questions, and managing your own reactions first. Top 3 Takeaways Great communicators don't just talk well; they recognize which kind of conversation they're in (practical, emotional, or social/identity) and match the other person so both sides feel heard. Motivational interviewing and deep questions let you influence others far more effectively than debates or data dumps, because you help them talk themselves toward insight instead of trying to “win” an argument. Self‑observation—catching your own motives, reactions, and habits in real time—is a trainable skill that turns better communication into a habit and becomes a major edge in leadership, sales, and making money. Notable Quotes “If you're feeling furious, get curious.” “Successful communication requires having the same kind of conversation at the same moment.” “The best communicator in any room usually isn't the one talking the most—they're the one everyone feels understood by.” Connect with Charles Duhigg: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesduhigg Twitter/X: https://x.com/cduhigg Website: https://charlesduhigg.com Newsletter (The Science of Better): https://thescienceofbetter.net or via his site Book: Supercommunicators Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this throwback solo episode, Travis shares powerful insights inspired by conversations with high performers like Ed Mylett, along with personal stories and real-world lessons from his own entrepreneurial journey. From pushing physical and mental limits to rethinking societal “rules” around success, Travis breaks down how discipline, intentional living, and attention-driven strategy can unlock massive financial growth. On this episode we talk about: The concept of “extremity expands capacity” and how pushing limits unlocks potential Why constantly upgrading your lifestyle can actually hold you back financially How Travis downgraded his life to create long-term freedom and business growth The importance of investing in yourself over material possessions How attention—not money—is the true driver behind massive wealth creation Top 3 Takeaways You don't truly know your limits until you push yourself to the extreme—growth happens outside your comfort zone. Lifestyle inflation is one of the biggest traps to financial freedom; discipline and intentional spending win long term. Attention is a powerful currency—building trust at scale can unlock massive opportunities and wealth. Notable Quotes "Extremity expands capacity." "You are your number one asset—invest in yourself accordingly." "It's not about being liked at first, it's about being known." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This special mashup episode of Travis Makes Money is jam-packed with insights from branding experts on how to build a memorable and influential brand. Tune in to get advice from an unconventional baseball team owner, a highly successful online marketer, and an entrepreneur who recently rebranded his company. You'll come away with specific tips you can implement right away to make your brand stand out. Don't miss these great insights from Jesse Cole, Billy Gene, and Patrick Bet-David.  Main takeaways: Be unapologetically yourself. Jesse Cole, owner of the Savannah Bananas baseball team, wears a bright yellow tuxedo to amplify his strengths. Figure out what makes you unique and lean into it fully. Confidence is key. Billy Gene shares how self-belief is critical but warns not to cross over into arrogance, where you think you can do everything alone. Have confidence in your abilities while remaining open to guidance. Constantly reinvent yourself. Patrick Bet-David explains how personal brands and businesses need to continually evolve just like people do as they mature and grow. Stagnation leads to irrelevance. Start now and refine over time. All three guests emphasize getting started on building your brand right away. You'll identify what works through trial and error. Don't overthink it or try to be perfect upfront. Focus on value. Billy Gene stresses that networking is about value exchange. Figure out how to add value to others through your skills and assets. Valuable people attract valuable relationships. This all-star panel will inspire you to put these tips into action to create a distinctive, magnetic brand. Follow Travis on: IG

Dr. John La Puma is a board-certified physician, two-time New York Times bestselling author, and pioneer of culinary medicine—a field that integrates food, lifestyle, and environmental health into medical practice. He also runs a regenerative certified organic farm in Santa Barbara that serves as his living laboratory for “nature as medicine,” where he tests how deliberate time outdoors can restore sleep, focus, resilience, and long‑term health. His latest book, Indoor Epidemic, distills insights from more than 2,200 studies to show how spending 93% of our time indoors steals our energy and performance, and how small, intentional doses of nature—the “Outdoor Rx”—can get them back. On this episode we talk about: How a 12‑year‑old's 4 a.m. paper route shaped Dr. La Puma's work ethic and lifelong love of making money. Why his curiosity about food, ethics, and lifestyle pulled him from traditional medicine into entrepreneurship and book writing. How modern indoor living “environmentally hijacks” us through air quality, light, and movement—and why that quietly taxes your cognition and health. The surprising science behind walking, outdoor movement, and “minimum effective doses” of nature for performance, creativity, and weight loss. Practical ways founders and professionals can redesign their day—walking meetings, morning light, and distance breaks—to make more money by thinking and performing better. Top 3 Takeaways Your environment is either handicapping or amplifying you: sealed, indoor spaces with stale air, dim light, and little movement quietly create a cognitive tax, inflammation, and burnout that no amount of hustle can fix. Small, specific doses of outdoor light, air, and movement—like a 17‑minute morning walk outside and walking meetings—are free levers that dramatically improve sleep, focus, creativity, and long‑term health. You can treat nature like a prescription: structure your day with “daylight before screen time,” frequent distance breaks from your devices, and simple outdoor routines that compound into better decisions, productivity, and ultimately income. Notable Quotes “Most people aren't burned out—they're just indoors too much.” “You're leaving gains on the table if you don't use the natural inputs your brain evolved to expect.” “Daytime before screen time—getting your light first and then your coffee—might be the most powerful way to improve performance that I know.” Connect with Dr. John La Puma: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnlapuma Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnlapuma/ Other (Book & Free Outdoor Reset): https://IndoorEpidemic.com Website: https://www.drjohnlapuma.com/ Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode,Travis dives into the fundamentals of sales, negotiation, and personal branding, pulling insights from top experts like Chris Voss. Drawing from real-world experience and proven frameworks, Travis breaks down how to handle price objections, improve your sales skills, and build a brand that drives long-term success. This episode is packed with actionable strategies for both beginners exploring sales and seasoned professionals looking to level up. On this episode we talk about: How to overcome the “too expensive” objection in sales Why value—not price—is the key to successful negotiation The importance of personal brand in driving business success Frameworks for improving your sales skills and education How to break into sales as a career path Top 3 Takeaways If a prospect is focused on price, it's usually a value problem—shift the conversation to uncover what's missing. Cutting your price rarely solves the real issue; instead, improve delivery, trust, or perceived value. A strong personal brand can outperform market conditions and accelerate business growth—but long-term success still depends on product quality. Notable Quotes "If you're haggling over price, you're talking about the wrong thing in the negotiation." "The brand brings the first sale, but the product keeps people coming back." "If you truly overdeliver, whatever you're charging becomes a bargain." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by HighLevel – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis and his producer break down a viral financial conversation sparked by a high-earning creator who didn't know her own net worth. Using real-world examples—from viral internet personalities to celebrities like Dane Cook—they unpack the dangers of financial illiteracy, blind trust, and poor money management. This episode is a candid, practical discussion on why understanding your finances is just as important as making money in the first place. On this episode we talk about: The viral clip that exposed a major gap in financial literacy—even among high earners Why not knowing your net worth can cost you millions The risks of blindly trusting financial advisors or money managers Real-world examples of financial mismanagement and fraud Simple ways to protect your money and stay financially informed Top 3 Takeaways Making money is only half the battle—understanding and managing it is what builds long-term wealth. Blind trust in financial professionals without verification can lead to devastating losses. You don't need to be an expert—just a basic understanding of your finances can dramatically increase your net worth. Notable Quotes "If you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business." "Trust—but always verify, especially when it comes to your money." "A tiny bit of effort understanding your finances can multiply your wealth." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Linktree: https://linktr.ee/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gil Petersil is a global speaker, serial entrepreneur, and expert in strategic partnerships with over 25 years of experience building high-trust business ecosystems. Having co-founded more than 20 ventures and delivered over 1,000 talks worldwide, Gil specializes in helping founders unlock growth through relationship capital. In this episode, he shares how intentional networking, mentorship, and value-driven connections can lead to massive business and personal breakthroughs. On this episode we talk about: Gil's first entrepreneurial experience and early lessons about making money Why traditional education isn't the only path to success How to find, attract, and build meaningful relationships with mentors The importance of leading with value in every relationship How strategic partnerships can drive massive business growth Top 3 Takeaways The fastest way to build powerful relationships is to focus on how you can serve others—not what you can get from them. Mentorship isn't about asking for help once—it's about consistently adding value and nurturing the relationship over time. Your network is one of your most valuable assets—intentional connections can unlock opportunities you can't access alone. Notable Quotes "All relationships are built on an exchange of value—start by giving." "One conversation can change your life, but only if you follow up." "Find ways to be valuable, and the right people will want to keep you around." Connect with Gil Petersil: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilpetersil Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gilpetersil Other: https://gilpetersil.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode, Travis Chappell breaks down the most powerful lessons he's learned from interviewing over 1,000 high performers—from billionaires and entrepreneurs to athletes, creators, and bestselling authors. Instead of focusing on surface-level success factors like intelligence or background, Travis reveals the deeper, more accessible traits that truly separate successful people from the rest. This episode is a practical and mindset-driven guide to building long-term success, rooted in real-world patterns observed across elite performers. On this episode we talk about: Why overcoming rejection is a non-negotiable skill for success The importance of delaying gratification and thinking long-term How “delusional belief” in your ability to figure things out creates momentum Why massive action and high volume are required to win The role of persistence, consistency, and strategic pivots over time Top 3 Takeaways Success isn't about avoiding rejection—it's about embracing it and continuing forward without losing enthusiasm. Long-term thinking and delayed gratification consistently outperform short-term decision-making. Belief alone isn't enough—pairing belief with massive, consistent action is what creates real results. Notable Quotes "Rejection isn't the problem—it's the path." "Belief means nothing without action." "You can fail as many times as you want—as long as you stay in the game." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Linktreee: https://linktr.ee/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, host Travis Chappell and producer Eric dive into the surprising world of the highest-paid dead celebrities, using a recent Forbes report as a springboard to unpack how estates, brands, and IP keep generating cash long after someone is gone. They break down what Michael Jackson, Dr. Seuss, Pink Floyd, Biggie, Jimmy Buffett, Kobe Bryant, Arnold Palmer, Shaq, and others did with their intellectual property—and what that means for creators, entrepreneurs, and personal brands today. Along the way, they dig into AI, likeness rights, and why owning your own image and work matters more than ever. On this episode we talk about: How Michael Jackson turned catalog ownership into hundreds of millions in posthumous earnings Why Dr. Seuss continues to sell millions of books and land major licensing deals decades after his death How Pink Floyd, Biggie, Jimmy Buffett, Kobe Bryant, and Arnold Palmer structured exits, brands, and licensing to keep cash flowing Why IP (intellectual property), catalogs, and name/image/likeness rights are the real long-term assets behind these fortunes How AI, likeness rights, and “owning yourself” will reshape the future of creative work and personal brands Top 3 Takeaways Own your IP and likeness. The biggest long-term winners are the ones who own their catalogs, brands, and name/image/likeness rights, because those assets can be licensed, sold, and repackaged for years. Build assets, not just income. Touring, projects, and launches are great, but the real wealth comes from building a body of work and brand that can be bundled, sold, or licensed as a catalog over time. Differentiate yourself in the age of AI. As AI-generated content explodes, the most valuable creators will be the ones doing interesting things in the real world, protecting their rights, and building distinctive voices and experiences that can't be easily replicated. Notable Quotes "Not only was he creating a lot of content, he was owning a ton of content, which is like where the real money is actually made." "The takeaway is the value of IP—IP seems to be almost publicly undervalued when it is the catalyst for so many of these fortunes." "If you can still do your own thing and stand out from the crowd, you're going to win long term, whether you're fighting with AI or copycats or whatever that is." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Wendy Valentine is the author of Women Waking Up: The Midlife Manifesto for Passion, Purpose, and Play, a #1 Amazon new release, creator of the Freedom at Midlife program, and host of the Midlife Makeover Show. After hitting rock bottom—facing divorce, debt, health challenges, and personal loss—Wendy rebuilt her life from scratch, ultimately creating a thriving brand centered around purpose, personal growth, and midlife reinvention. Her story is a powerful example of how turning adversity into action can lead to both fulfillment and financial success. On this episode we talk about: How Wendy rebuilt her life after hitting rock bottom and found a new path forward Why becoming the “person” you want to be matters more than achieving specific goals The step-by-step journey from corporate job to author, speaker, and entrepreneur How to land a book deal (and why she turned one down first) Monetizing a personal brand through podcasting, books, and speaking Top 3 Takeaways Focus on who you need to become—not just what you want to achieve—to create lasting change. You don't need to start with your dream job; strategic stepping stones can fund and fuel your bigger vision. Building an audience first (through podcasting or content) is key to successfully launching and monetizing a book or brand. Notable Quotes "If I'm going to have to work hard anyway, I might as well choose the road that leads to a better life." "We focus so much on the what, when, where, and how—but we forget about the who." "When you give yourself permission to shine, everything starts to fall into place." Connect with Wendy Valentine: Substack: https://wendyvalentine.substack.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hellowendyvalentine/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hellowendyvalentine/ Other: https://wendyvalentine.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this solo episode, Travis breaks down how to design a realistic, sustainable morning routine that actually supports your energy, focus, and productivity instead of becoming a four-hour checklist you feel guilty about skipping. Drawing from years of experimenting with different habits, he shares what truly moves the needle—especially if you're a self-described night person who wakes up feeling behind. On this episode we talk about: Why over-engineered, four-hour morning routines can hurt your day more than help it. The core pillars of an effective routine: hydration, sunlight, and movement. Practical ways to move your body in the morning without being a “gym rat.” How journaling, meditation, and even cold showers or sauna can support your mental state. The importance of starting with just one habit and sometimes skipping everything to do your most important work first. Top 3 Takeaways An effective morning routine should change your state, not become a rigid box-checking exercise that makes you feel behind or guilty when life happens. Simple habits like electrolytes and water, getting 15–20 minutes of sunlight, moving your body, and staying off your phone can dramatically improve focus, mood, and sleep. Start with one habit that makes other habits easier—like waking up at a consistent time—and build from there while remembering that sometimes the best move is to wake up and do your most important work first. Notable Quotes "You do not want to have a crazy four-hour long morning routine. It can actually be more detrimental to your day than not having a morning routine at all." "The entire goal here is not to check boxes. The entire goal is to set yourself up to be in a state that allows you to have a productive and positive day." "Start with one thing, and make that one thing the thing that makes other things easier once you've accomplished the first thing on the list." Connect with Travis: Instagram: https://instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This co-hosted episode features Travis Chappell and producer Eric breaking down a powerful fitness clip from wellness coach and content creator Michael Smoak, then translating it into practical money lessons. Michael, a transformation coach who simplifies health and wellness for busy professionals, shares how raising awareness of “hidden calories” changed his body—and Travis uses the same framework to reveal the “hidden expenses” quietly sabotaging your bank account. On this episode we talk about: Why brutal honesty and tracking for 30 days can transform both your diet and your finances. How “liquid calories” like chai tea lattes mirror financial leaks like fast food, Amazon impulse buys, and constant eating out. The four stages of competence (from unconscious incompetence to unconscious competence) and how they apply to weight loss and money management. Simple rules like checking labels, checking your bank account, and adding a “cooling-off period” before you eat or spend. Why accountability, community, and having a more experienced friend or coach dramatically increase your odds of lasting change. Top 3 Takeaways Awareness comes first: whether it is calories or cash, tracking everything for a month exposes the real reasons you are gaining weight or staying broke. Small, “insignificant” choices—daily chai lattes, delivery orders, random Amazon carts—add up to massive results over three to six months, in both your body and your bank account. Mastery is a progression: if you stick with it, you move from not knowing what you do wrong to being able to “eyeball” food and money decisions automatically, which makes staying fit and financially stable feel much easier. Notable Quotes “You're not just magically getting fatter and your money's not just magically vanishing—both are the result of daily choices you're not tracking.” “If you always have more month at the end of your money, you owe it to yourself to figure out where it's going.” “Getting fit isn't about suffering; it's about raising your awareness—and the same exact thing is true with your finances.” Connect with Travis: Instagram: https://instagram.com/travischappell Website: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Betsy Dovec is a world-renowned bariatric surgeon, entrepreneur, and founder of Body by Bariatrics and the Surgical Institute of Central Florida. With over 6,500 weight loss surgeries performed, she's not only transforming lives through medicine but also redefining how healthcare businesses are built and scaled. Passionate about ending obesity stigma and treating it as a chronic disease, Betsy combines clinical excellence with bold entrepreneurial thinking—making her journey a powerful blueprint for anyone looking to grow wealth through expertise and ownership. On this episode we talk about: What bariatric surgery is and how it transforms patients' lives Transitioning from hospital-employed surgeon to business owner The steep learning curve of running a healthcare business (especially billing and revenue cycles) Building a vertically integrated ecosystem in healthcare Taking on risk, including a $12M loan to build a surgery center Top 3 Takeaways Being great at your craft doesn't mean you're ready for business—learning operations, finance, and systems is critical to success. Owning the full ecosystem (real estate, services, operations) creates scalability, defensibility, and long-term wealth. Risk is unavoidable—so you might as well take calculated risks that align with your long-term vision and goals. Notable Quotes "You either tolerate being an employee—or you make the uncomfortable decision to build something of your own." "I had to learn fast or I wasn't going to survive in business." "There's no limit now—and that's what makes it exciting." Connect with Dr. Betsy Dovec: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drdovec Other: https://bodybybariatrics.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This solo episode features Travis Chappell, a veteran podcaster and founder who has helped thousands of people learn the mindset and habits required to earn more. Drawing from his own journey of lifestyle creep, debt awareness, and building multiple income streams, Travis breaks down simple, practical habits anyone can adopt—no degree, big savings, or special skills required—to start moving their bank account in the right direction over the next 3–6 months. On this episode we talk about: Why checking your bank account balance daily changes your money awareness and urgency. How to delay purchases for at least an hour to avoid impulse spending and emotional decisions. Eating at home to reverse lifestyle creep and stop letting restaurant and delivery bills quietly drain your income. Going to monthly in‑person events so “the more hands you shake, the more money you make.” Changing your inputs (podcasts, YouTube, conversations) so your environment pushes you toward earning more. Top 3 Takeaways Daily money awareness—like checking your bank balance or using tools such as Rocket Money—keeps your real financial situation in front of you and creates the urgency to go earn more. Small habits like delaying purchases for an hour and eating at home can quietly free up thousands of dollars a month that you can redirect toward debt payoff and savings. Your environment and relationships matter: attending monthly events, consuming business content, and talking openly about money with your spouse or close friends increases opportunities and motivation to build the life you want. Notable Quotes “What you focus on, you get more of—so put your bank balance in front of your eyes every single day.” “It's never been easier to make money, but it's also never been easier to get distracted and to spend it.” “The more hands you shake, the more money you make.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell/ Other: Website – https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis and his producer Eric break down a viral clip featuring Codie Sanchez and a critic questioning her business model. What starts as a lighthearted conversation quickly turns into a deeper discussion about attention, credibility, and the growing trend of creators tearing others down online. Travis shares his perspective on why buying “boring businesses” is a powerful path to wealth, and why attacking others—especially when you're doing the same thing—can ultimately hurt your brand more than help it. On this episode we talk about: Why buying small “boring” businesses can be more lucrative than traditional careers The real reason critics attack successful creators online How attention (positive or negative) fuels growth and opportunity The dangers of discrediting others while promoting similar ideas When criticism crosses the line into unnecessary negativity Top 3 Takeaways Attention is the foundation of business—once you have it, you can monetize it. Tearing others down—especially when you're in the same space—weakens your own credibility. You don't need to praise everyone, but you also don't need to publicly attack them to succeed. Notable Quotes "You don't have to tear others down in order to build yourself up." "If nobody knows who you are, you'll never be able to do business with anybody." "It's strange behavior to attack someone who's doing the exact same thing you're doing." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Garrett Sutton is a bestselling author, attorney, and Rich Dad Advisor known for his expertise in asset protection, business structuring, and real estate investing. With decades of experience helping entrepreneurs safeguard and grow their wealth, Garrett has authored multiple influential books and recently co-created a documentary and audiobook on the origin story of ESPN. His unique blend of legal insight, storytelling, and entrepreneurial perspective makes this episode both practical and inspiring for anyone looking to build and protect their financial future. On this episode we talk about: The origin story of ESPN and key entrepreneurial lessons from its founding Why relationships and emotional intelligence (EQ) are critical for success The importance of asset protection and setting up corporations/LLCs How storytelling enhances communication in business and law Lessons learned from real estate investing and avoiding common mistakes Top 3 Takeaways Who you know—and how you connect with people—can be more impactful than what you know when it comes to long-term success. Structuring your business properly and protecting your assets is essential as you grow wealth. Storytelling is a powerful tool for communicating complex ideas and standing out in business. Notable Quotes "Who you are will allow you to meet who you need to know." "You're not going to meet anybody if you're just staring in your phone." "The PowerPoint should be secondary—the connection with the audience is what matters." Connect with Garrett Sutton: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrettsutton/ Law: https://sutlaw.com/ Books: on Amazon Website: https://corporatedirect.com Documentary: https://tenero.tv  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode, host Travis Chappell breaks down the social media strategies he is actively testing in his own business to grow real, engaged audiences instead of inflated, fake numbers. Drawing from his personal wins and mistakes, as well as lessons from creator friends and mentors like Gary Vaynerchuk and Alex Hormozi, Travis lays out a practical playbook any entrepreneur can use to show up consistently online without feeling fake, overproduced, or trapped on the content treadmill. On this episode we talk about: Why buying followers, views, likes, and comments destroys your data, credibility, and long‑term growth. How to use paid boosts the right way by amplifying content that is already performing well organically. Simple content formats that actually work: “document, don't create,” direct‑to‑camera videos, podcast clips, and more. How collaborations and podcast clips can pull you out of “engagement jail” and expose you to new audiences. Why volume plus continuous improvement beats complex hook formulas and copycat “Hormozi‑style” content. Top 3 Takeaways Never buy fake growth. Purchasing followers, views, or engagement forces you to keep paying just to maintain appearances, ruins your ability to read what is truly working, and makes it obvious to anyone experienced that your audience isn't real. Play to your natural strengths and formats. Whether it is quick direct‑to‑camera riffs, documenting your day, or repurposing podcast clips, pick the style that feels authentic so you can stay consistent over years, not weeks. Pair consistency with improvement and volume. Treat every post like a lottery ticket, increase the number of “shots on goal,” and keep iterating based on honest data so your content quality rises alongside your output. Notable Quotes “Do not escape the learning part of failure with your social media content and just make up for it by boosting the video.” “Real recognizes real—you're not fooling anybody who's been around the game for any length of time.” “It has to be a combination of consistency plus improvement; otherwise you just post a thousand times and still get 300 views a video.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Twitter/X: https://x.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the all‑in‑one sales and marketing platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform, and get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode with Travis, he dives deep into why traditional “networking” feels slimy and what to do instead. He shares lessons from years of running a top networking podcast, rebranding his show, and shifting from transactional tactics to genuine, long-term relationship building. On this episode we talk about: Why the term “networking” feels gross and outdated. The “Networking Ned” caricature and everything he does wrong at events. The difference between transactional networking and long-term relationship building. How to show up at events like you would at a bar with friends. Why collecting contacts is useless if no one will text you back. Top 3 Takeaways Stop chasing transactions and start making friends. Treat people at professional events the same way you'd treat new friends at a bar—curious, relaxed, and focused on connection, not closing. Quality beats quantity in your network. A smaller list of people who will actually text you back, hop on FaceTime, and reciprocate value is far more powerful than thousands of cold contacts. Play the long game. Real relationships compound over years, often starting in a professional context and evolving into personal friendships that enrich your life far beyond a single deal. Notable Quotes “Networking's not dead, but you should stop looking at it as networking and start looking at it as making friends in business.” “You can have a hundred thousand contacts in your phone, but what really matters is who will actually text you back.” “Numbers aren't people and people aren't numbers—focus on the relationship, not the spreadsheet.” Connect with Travis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/traviscchappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this candid and unfiltered episode, Travis is joined by his producer Eric for a deeper conversation sparked by a viral clip from Gary Vaynerchuk. What starts as a humorous, off-the-rails discussion quickly turns into a thoughtful breakdown of criticism culture, “call-out” content, and the fine line between holding people accountable and building a brand off negativity. Travis shares his perspective on when criticism is valid, when it becomes harmful, and why focusing on your own work is ultimately the most profitable—and fulfilling—path. On this episode we talk about: The difference between constructive criticism and toxic “call-out” culture When it makes sense to publicly critique someone—and when it doesn't The dangers of building a brand around negativity and controversy Why fact-checking and integrity matter when discussing others How focusing on your own growth leads to better long-term success Top 3 Takeaways There's a big difference between disagreeing with someone and building a brand around tearing others down. If you choose to criticize publicly, you have a responsibility to be accurate, fair, and fact-based. The most sustainable path to success is focusing on creating value—not chasing attention through negativity. Notable Quotes "Some things are worth calling out—but most things don't deserve the attention you're giving them." "If your entire brand is built on exposing people, eventually you'll go looking for problems that don't exist." "Focus on your own work instead of trying to tear down people who are doing something." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kevin Trudeau is a multi-billion-dollar entrepreneur, New York Times bestselling author, and widely recognized marketing expert. With over 100 million books sold worldwide, Kevin has built a reputation as a master of direct response marketing and personal development. From humble blue-collar beginnings to building massive business success, Kevin's journey is rooted in mindset, mentorship, and taking relentless action. On this episode we talk about: How Kevin made his first money through simple entrepreneurship The importance of mentorship and learning from successful people The mindset shifts required to achieve financial freedom Why “disgust” can be a powerful motivator for success How direct marketing became Kevin's first million-dollar vehicle Top 3 Takeaways Financial freedom starts with working for yourself and learning directly from people who have already achieved success. Success requires both mindset and action—dreaming without execution leads nowhere. The easiest time in history to make money is now, thanks to the internet lowering barriers to entry. Notable Quotes "Find a need and fill it." "Do more than you're paid, and soon you'll be paid more for what you do." "You have to feel now as if you would feel if you already had it." Connect with Kevin Trudeau: Website: https://kevintrudeau.com Book: https://yourwish.kevintrudeau.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this solo episode of Travis Makes Money, host Travis Chappell breaks down the three core types of trust that drive sales and long-term customer relationships. Drawing from his years of door-to-door sales and online business, he explains how to intentionally engineer trust so that more of your conversations turn into transactions. On this episode we talk about: The biggest obstacle in cold outreach and why you actually start at “negative trust” with prospects. How referrals and warm introductions let you “borrow trust” and massively increase your close rate. What competence trust is and how to build it with credibility, PR, and podcast guesting. Why caring trust (showing you genuinely have the client's best interest at heart) keeps people coming back. How community trust, stages, and other people's audiences can instantly lower the barrier to doing business with you. Top 3 Takeaways Your sales problem is often a trust problem, especially in cold environments where people didn't ask to hear from you and start out skeptical of your intentions. You can deliberately build competence, caring, and community trust through authority-building moves like guest podcast appearances, consistent content, and deepening relationships. When trust is high, the only real remaining barrier is whether someone actually needs what you sell—trust converts attention into transactions. Notable Quotes “It's not even like you're starting from zero trust—when you're cold calling or knocking doors, you're starting from negative trust.” “Maybe they trust that you're a good person, but do they trust that you're actually good at what you do?” “Trust will always lead to transactions—people have to trust you at least a little bit before they pull out their credit card.” Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Linktree: https://linktr.ee/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other (Website): https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the all-in-one sales and marketing platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform, and get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this co-hosted episode, Travis is joined by his producer Eric to answer a listener's question about starting a podcast from scratch. Drawing from years of experience building Travis Makes Money, Travis breaks down the practical realities of launching a show today—covering everything from video vs. audio to editing, batching content, and avoiding the most common mistakes new podcasters make. If you've been thinking about starting a podcast but feel overwhelmed by all the moving pieces, this episode gives you a clear, actionable path forward. On this episode we talk about: Whether you should start with video, audio, or both How to avoid overwhelm when launching your podcast The importance of batching content before publishing Leveraging AI tools for editing, show notes, and production Why short-form content is key for growth and exposure Top 3 Takeaways Start simple and remove friction—don't let complexity stop you from launching. Batch at least 1–2 months of content before publishing to ensure consistency. Capture video whenever possible—it creates long-term content and growth opportunities through clips. Notable Quotes "Start with whatever you have available—just don't let obstacles stop you from getting started." "If you can't record two months of content before publishing, you probably won't stay consistent after." "There's no reason not to capture video now—it's where all the exposure lives." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mark Kohler is a nationally recognized CPA, tax and legal strategist, senior partner at KKOS Lawyers, and co-founder of Directed IRA—an Inc. 5000 company. With over 25 years of experience and more than 10,000 client consultations, Mark has built a reputation for helping entrepreneurs legally reduce taxes, protect assets, and build long-term wealth. Known for simplifying complex financial strategies, Mark brings practical, actionable advice that business owners can implement immediately. On this episode we talk about: Why tax strategy matters more than tax filing—and when to actually plan Common tax mistakes entrepreneurs make (and how to avoid them) The truth about LLCs, S-Corps, and what actually saves you money How to build a coordinated business structure for tax efficiency and asset protection Why skill stacking, communication, and trade-based careers are key in the age of AI Top 3 Takeaways Tax planning happens before the year ends—waiting until April is already too late for most strategies. An LLC alone doesn't save taxes—true savings come from proper structuring (like S-Corp elections) and proactive strategy. The biggest earning advantage comes from stacking unique skills and simplifying complex ideas so others understand your value. Notable Quotes "It's easier to save money than make money." "LLCs don't save taxes—strategy does." "Who cares how smart you are if people don't understand you?" Connect with Mark Kohler: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjkohler/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/markjkohler Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markjkohler/ Other: https://markjkohler.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Travis sits down with his in-studio producer for a candid, behind-the-scenes conversation about writing books, publishing paths, and what it really takes to stand out in an increasingly saturated market. From traditional vs. self-publishing to the surprising statistics around book sales, this episode breaks down the realities most aspiring authors don't consider—and why focusing on quality over speed is the ultimate competitive advantage. On this episode we talk about: Traditional publishing vs. self-publishing and how to choose the right path Eye-opening statistics about book sales and why most books fail to sell The impact of AI and the explosion of low-quality self-published content Why credibility, distribution, and timing matter for first-time authors The philosophy of “there's always room for the best” in any saturated market Top 3 Takeaways The publishing path you choose should align with your current goals—traditional publishing can offer credibility, while self-publishing offers control and flexibility. Most books sell very few copies, so success comes less from publishing and more from creating a genuinely high-quality product. Saturation isn't the problem—lack of excellence is. If your work is truly great, you can still stand out in any market. Notable Quotes "I don't want to write a book just to say I wrote a book—I want it to actually be good." "There's always room for the best." "If you're going to write a book, just make it good—that's what actually matters long term." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Redman is a retired Navy SEAL, New York Times bestselling author, and transformational speaker who embodies resilience at the highest level. After being critically wounded in combat—shot multiple times, including in the face—Jason fought his way back through years of recovery and now uses his story to inspire millions. In this episode, he shares how the “overcome mindset” applies not just to survival, but to building a successful life and business through discipline, adaptability, and intentional growth. On this episode we talk about: Jason's journey into the Navy SEALs and the mindset required to succeed The realities of SEAL training and why mental toughness matters most Surviving a life-threatening combat ambush and the lessons it taught him Translating military resilience into entrepreneurship and business success Building multiple income streams and applying the “DEI” framework to wealth Top 3 Takeaways Mental resilience—not physical ability—is what ultimately determines success in high-pressure situations. Everyone faces “ambushes” in life, and growth comes from choosing to move forward through adversity. Financial success requires a shift from saving mindset to growth mindset—diversifying income, building equity, and increasing earnings. Notable Quotes "Everyone gets ambushed in life—it's your choice whether you overcome it." "If you never ask, the answer is always no." "You don't want to get to the end of your life and ask, ‘What if?'" Connect with Jason Redman: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-redman-b8324210/ Twitter/X: https://x.com/JasonRedmanWW Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonredmanww Speaking: https://jasonredman.com Other: https://www.turbovets.com/ Drink: https://www.patriotseltzer.com/  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There's no guest on this episode—just Travis sharing an honest solo riff about why every path in life and business comes with its own “shit sandwich,” and how to choose the one that's actually worth eating. He breaks down career pivots, the grind behind creative success, and why chasing the “easy” road usually just trades one set of problems for another. On this episode we talk about: Why every career or business path has parts that will suck. Lessons from a working stand-up comedian grinding for nearly a decade. Letting go of glorified “grass is greener” fantasies about other careers. Choosing the problems you're willing to live with in work, health, and life. How accepting obstacles frees you up to commit and keep moving forward. Top 3 Takeaways You can't avoid hardship—you can only choose which set of problems you're willing to face in pursuit of a meaningful path. The people who eventually “blow up” are usually the ones quietly stacking years of reps, projects, and readiness behind the scenes. Trying to dodge discomfort now (in career or health) just creates bigger, less controllable problems for your future self. Notable Quotes "No matter what path you take, something about it is going to suck." "What is the shit sandwich you're willing to eat?" "The grass is greener where you water it." Connect with Travis: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell/ Website: https://travischappell.com Linktree: https://linktr.ee/travischappell  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travis Chappell and Eric unpack a viral MrBeast clip and use it as a broader conversation about success, sacrifice, and self-awareness. The episode explores why some people are built for extreme achievement, why most people are not, and how to decide what tradeoffs are actually worth it. On this episode we talk about: Why the “most people stop where success gets hard” mindset resonates with high performers. The difference between admiring extreme achievers and trying to live exactly like them. How self-awareness shapes the tradeoffs you're willing to make in pursuit of success. Why people like MrBeast, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, and Alex Hormozi are outliers, not templates for everyone. How to define success in a way that matches your real values instead of someone else's ambitions. Top 3 Takeaways Pushing through discomfort can create growth, but that does not mean everyone should copy an extreme work ethic. Success is not one-size-fits-all; the right path depends on what you want and what you're willing to trade for it. The most important question is not whether a strategy works, but whether it fits the life you actually want. Notable Quotes "This clip reminds me of something where most people stop." "That's why there's only one Mr. Beast." "It just comes down to a level of self-awareness to know what you want out of life and what you're willing to trade for what you want out of life." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the all-in-one sales and marketing platform built for agencies, by an agency. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eric Qualman is a five-time bestselling author, global keynote speaker, and digital leadership expert who has reached over 60 million people across 60+ countries. Known for his groundbreaking book Socialnomics, Eric has built a thriving personal brand that spans speaking, publishing, media, and even product creation. In this episode, he shares how he turned early entrepreneurial instincts into a multi-stream income business—and how anyone can do the same by following opportunity and delivering value. On this episode we talk about: How Eric made his first money as a kid and his early entrepreneurial mindset The value of working for others before becoming an entrepreneur How Socialnomics launched his career as a speaker and author Building multiple income streams from a personal brand Traditional vs. self vs. “artisanal” publishing and how to choose Top 3 Takeaways Your early career is about learning—working for others can help you build valuable skills on someone else's dime. Opportunities often come disguised as repeated requests—pay attention to what people keep asking you for. Writing a book is only half the battle; promoting and selling it is where most of the real work happens. Notable Quotes "If you never ask, the answer is always no." "Writers sell books. Publishers print books." "Once you're done writing your book, you're only 50% there." Connect with Eric Qualman: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/qualman/ Twitter/X: https://x.com/equalman Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/equalman Other: https://equalman.com  Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.  Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.  Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travis is a seasoned entrepreneur, podcaster, and former door-to-door sales rep who has built multiple businesses by strategically using low-interest and 0% debt. He shares candid stories of funding his podcasting journey, a software startup, and a brick-and-mortar franchise, all while navigating the psychological and financial risks of borrowing. His experience-based approach makes this episode especially useful for anyone torn between “all debt is bad” and “leverage everything.” On this episode we talk about: How Travis used a 0% credit card to launch his podcasting career Why he values financial, time, and location freedom in online business Using 0% credit cards and funding to build a software startup Financing a brick-and-mortar franchise with credit cards and an SBA loan The psychological side of debt and creating urgency without being reckless Top 3 Takeaways Strategic, low- or 0%-interest debt can accelerate your path into a new business or skill set when it's used to buy knowledge, relationships, and revenue-generating assets—not toys. Debt works best when you have a clear plan to “outwork” it quickly, maintain strict discipline, and avoid stacking new debt just to cover old debt. Whether debt is “good” or “bad” depends on your psychology, habits, and situation; it's a case-by-case decision, not a one-size-fits-all rule. Notable Quotes “My content is documenting what I'm doing. It's not a sermon.” “I don't like debt, but seeing it makes me go into hyperdrive to earn more and pay it off.” “Ask yourself: is this helpful, what are the downsides, what are the upsides, and can I comfortably outwork this debt?” Connect with Travis: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell/ Other: https://travischappell.com/ Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travis Chappell and his producer Eric break down the fallout around ABC's canceled Bachelorette season and use it as a bigger lesson in branding, risk, and media economics. The conversation blends pop culture, reality TV, and business strategy to show how attention, credibility, and trust shape both audience growth and revenue. On this episode we talk about: Why ABC's decision to cast Taylor Frankie Paul was a high-risk move for the franchise. How the cancellation created major financial fallout for the network and advertisers. The difference between short-term attention and long-term brand damage. Why reality TV thrives on messy personalities but still has a line it cannot cross. What the situation reveals about media strategy, vetting, and protecting a valuable IP. Top 3 Takeaways Chasing attention without protecting the brand can backfire fast, especially when the audience expects a certain kind of consistency. Even major networks can make expensive mistakes when they prioritize hype over judgment. Reality TV depends on drama, but there is still a huge difference between entertaining conflict and behavior that crosses into real harm. Notable Quotes "It sounds low to me, frankly." "That's the thing that they became famous for is just living their life and then filming it." "You want the person who will pour a drink on someone at a table. Yeah. But you also don't want a person that'll break the glass on the table and stab someone in the neck." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the all-in-one sales and marketing platform built for agencies, by an agency. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travis Chappell breaks down his ACT method for building a personal brand: Attention, Credibility, and Trust. In this solo episode, he explains why podcasting is one of the most effective ways to grow a brand because it can move people through all three stages at once, especially when you show up as a guest on someone else's show. On this episode we talk about: Why attention is the first requirement for any personal brand. How credibility supports attention and keeps people from dropping out of the funnel. Why trust is the most important part of the brand-building process. How podcasting can build attention, credibility, and trust faster than many other platforms. Why some attention-grabbing tactics can hurt your brand if they cross ethical or moral lines. Top 3 Takeaways If people do not know who you are, they cannot buy from you, follow you, or refer you. Podcasting is powerful because it lets people spend meaningful time with you while also seeing your credibility in context. The best personal brands are built on trust over time, not just on viral reach or controversy. Notable Quotes "The ACT method to building a personal brand." "If nobody knows who you are, then they can't buy your stuff." "Best known beats best every day of the week." Connect with Travis Chappell: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travischappell Instagram: https://instagram.com/travischappell Other: https://travischappell.com Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the all-in-one sales and marketing platform built for agencies, by an agency. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ever wonder what it really feels like to leave behind an elite military career and try to build a meaningful life on the other side? In this preview from Travis Makes Friends, Travis Chappell sits down with former Marine fighter pilot Dave Berke and former Air Force Thunderbirds pilot Mace Curran to talk about life after service, the challenge of translating hard-earned experience into a new career, and what it takes to keep growing once the mission changes. Dave and Mace open up about the long, demanding process of writing books and distilling years of experience into lessons others can actually use. What sounds simple on the surface turns out to be a deeply reflective process — one that requires not just expertise, but the ability to look back, connect the dots, and turn lived experience into something teachable. Travis unpacks why that skill matters so much, especially for people whose credibility comes from having done the work at the highest level. The conversation also digs into what they enjoy most now: making an impact. Mace shares how powerful it is to see the direct effect of her keynotes, whether she's speaking to a crowd, connecting face-to-face afterward, or hearing months later that something she said changed someone's life. Dave echoes that same theme from the leadership side, explaining how meaningful it is to teach leadership as a skill anyone can learn, improve, and pass on to others. You'll also hear honest reflections on what's been difficult in the transition out of the military — from missing the camaraderie of a fighter squadron to adjusting to a different kind of social life. Mace talks candidly about the challenge of building friendships outside that world and realizing relationships don't just happen automatically anymore; they take intentionality and effort. Dave shares a similar perspective, describing how he's found connection through both work and his family life, while still appreciating the rare bond that comes from serving in an elite, high-pressure environment. This preview also touches on the unique culture of military aviation, the emotional pull of flying, and the realities of whether they miss it. For Mace, the answer is complicated: she doesn't miss the flying as much as she misses the people, the language, and the sense of belonging. For Dave, the military is something he looks back on with gratitude, but not longing — because he's found fulfillment in what he's doing now. If you've ever wondered how high performers reinvent themselves after a defining career, or how to build a life filled with purpose when your old identity no longer fits, this conversation offers an honest and encouraging look at what that transition really takes. Hit play to hear how Dave and Mace are building impact, connection, and purpose in the next chapter of their lives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Shamina Taylor is an attorney turned wealth expert, business mentor, author, and speaker who helps high-achieving women elevate their lives and businesses. With over 20 years of experience, Shamina has guided hundreds of clients to build successful businesses both online and offline. Her top clients earn up to $100,000 a month and have crossed the million-dollar revenue mark. Shamina's story is one of resilience, reinvention, and unlocking abundance—she built her own business to $1 million in just 10 months and now mentors Grammy-winning celebrities and industry leaders. On this episode we talk about: – Shamina's journey from selling chips as a kid in Canada to becoming a successful attorney and, ultimately, a sought-after wealth coach – The pivotal yoga mat moment that sparked her transformation from high-performing attorney to spiritual entrepreneur – How trauma, emotional blocks, and “ice queen” tendencies can hold back high achievers—especially women—from true wealth and fulfillment – The practical steps and mindset shifts needed to transition from a stable career to entrepreneurship, even when starting from zero – Building an audience and launching her first online course, including the strategies that led to her first sales – The importance of investing in yourself and why every dollar spent on personal growth is a bet on your own success – Understanding core money wounds—unworthiness, abandonment, betrayal—and how they show up in business and income – The power of feminine energy in receiving wealth and why mindset is the key to breaking income ceilings Top 3 Takeaways 1. Mindset is Everything: Your beliefs about money, self-worth, and abundance directly impact your ability to earn and keep wealth. Shifting your mindset can unlock new levels of success. 2. Invest in Yourself: Treat every investment in coaching, courses, or mentorship as tuition for your future. Even “bad” investments teach valuable lessons and build self-belief. 3. Be, Then Do, Then Have: True wealth comes from embodying your highest, most authentic self first—then taking action, and finally reaping the rewards. Notable Quotes – “Money doesn't change who you are right now. You have to be the wealthy, happiest version of yourself first.” – “If you don't look at your bank account—even when it hurts—you're giving money power over you. You need to have power over money.”  –“Every bet that I make on myself is another belief notch in my belt to say that I'm going to figure this out—it's just a matter of time.” Connect with Shamina Taylor: – Instagram: @shaminataylor (DM “Travis” for her free cash flow system blueprint and a 15-minute wealth specialization call) Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency. Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform. Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices