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In this episode, Travis Chappell sits down with his producer Eric for a candid conversation on money mindset, investing, and why “playing it safe” can sometimes be the riskiest move of all. Together, they unpack what it really means to make your money work for you—and why saving alone won't build long-term wealth. On this episode we talk about: The truth behind Grant Cardone's “cash is trash” mentality When saving money becomes a liability instead of a strength How to balance liquidity with long-term investing Using debt as a tool for leverage rather than a burden Why calculated risk is essential to escaping financial stagnation Top 3 Takeaways Cash has a purpose—but it's not growth. Savings should be a safety net, not a strategy. Good debt accelerates progress. When used intentionally, debt can be the difference between staying stuck and scaling up. Smart risk-taking builds wealth. The biggest financial wins come from understanding and embracing measured risk, not avoiding it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Betsy Fore is a serial entrepreneur, CEO, and investor with nearly 20 years of leadership experience. She's the author of Built on Purpose: Discover Your Deep Inner Why and Manifest the Business of Your Dreams, founding partner of Velveteen Ventures, and a trailblazer in consumer products for children and the planet. Notably, Betsy scaled Tiny Organics past $13 million in revenue in just 24 months, took Wonder Woof! from scrappy startup to Oprah's Favorite Things, and was the first Native American woman to raise a Series A for a consumer food startup. On this episode we talk about: Growing up in a small Midwestern town, working every day since 13, and becoming a leading business creator Turning a garage-tinkering childhood into a career as a toy inventor, then product startup founder How relentless optimism, reinvention, and standing atop “a mountain of failures” led to big wins Advice for founders: building with community, manifesting vision, securing funding, and the importance of thinking big—even if you're starting small Behind the scenes of Tiny Organics' explosive first-year growth, building a cult following, and scaling product through grass-roots founding families Top 3 Takeaways Every breakthrough product stands on a mountain of failed attempts; grit and adaptability win. Community-first feedback loops create true brand evangelists and drive authentic scale. Dreaming big isn't just mindset—it's a practical approach to manifesting opportunity and wealth wherever you start. Notable Quotes “For every success, there's a mountain of failures you're standing on.” “You have to feel your deep inner ‘why' to reveal it and build on it.” “Not every company needs to be venture-backed, but every founder can build generational wealth by manifesting their vision.” Connect with Betsy Fore: Website: betsyfore.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Thomas Nitzsche is a financial educator, media spokesperson, and Vice President of Media and Brand at Money Management International — the largest nonprofit credit counseling agency in the U.S. After facing his own financial struggles during the Great Recession, Thomas turned his hardship into purpose, helping thousands of Americans overcome debt, rebuild their credit, and regain control of their financial lives. On this episode we talk about: Thomas' journey from a small Illinois farm to becoming a national voice for financial literacy The emotional toll of debt and why financial shame keeps people stuck How to choose between debt management and debt settlement programs The biggest money mistakes people make when trying to get out of debt What Thomas learned after cashing out his 401(k) — and what he'd do differently today Top 3 Takeaways You can't budget your way out of shame. Financial freedom starts with removing the emotional barriers around money. Debt management isn't failure — it's strategy. Knowing your options can save you thousands in interest and fees. Financial health takes time. Getting out of debt is a process, not an overnight success story. Notable Quotes “You didn't get into debt overnight — you're not going to get out of it overnight.” “Hope is not a financial plan.” “Money doesn't define your worth — but understanding it can define your future.” Connect with Thomas Nitzsche: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaspnitzsche Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bonnie-Jill Laflin is a trailblazer in the world of sports — the first and only female NBA scout in history, a former NFL cheerleader for the Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers, a sports broadcaster, and founder of the nonprofit Hounds and Heroes. From modeling at age three to scouting for the Lakers dynasty under Phil Jackson, Bonnie-Jill has shattered glass ceilings in some of the most male-dominated spaces in sports and media. On this episode we talk about: How Bonnie-Jill became the first and only female NBA scout The behind-the-scenes reality of being an NFL and NBA cheerleader Lessons learned from sports legends like Jerry Jones, Jerry Buss, and Phil Jackson The business and branding genius behind the Cowboys Cheerleaders How discipline, mindset, and mental toughness shape lasting success Top 3 Takeaways Breaking barriers takes preparation, persistence, and confidence — not permission. Branding and business savvy are just as important as athletic skill in the world of sports. True leadership blends intellect, mindfulness, and empathy — lessons Bonnie-Jill learned firsthand from Phil Jackson. Notable Quotes “I didn't want to just be around sports — I wanted to be in sports.” “Phil Jackson didn't just coach players; he taught them how to think.” “The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders were one of the biggest brands in the world — we just didn't get paid like it.” Connect with Bonnie-Jill Laflin: https://hoo.be/bonniejill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Travis Makes Money Podcast, Travis and producer Eric dive into 10 rapid-fire questions about purchases, investments, and regrets — with two minutes on the clock for each answer. From Travis' best investment ever to the truck that literally lost a wheel days after buying it, this one's full of laughs, lessons, and hard-earned financial wisdom. Travis opens up about: His best and worst purchases (from real estate to portable chargers) The six-figure mistake that taught him how to invest smarter How a wheel falling off a truck turned into one of his best financial decisions Why he stopped spending money on travel — and what changed The power of generosity and the first time he realized money could help others The non-financial investment that completely changed his health and mindset Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rebecca Matchett is a serial entrepreneur, fashion innovator, and now tech founder who's built her career around solving real-world problems. From co-founding Alice + Olivia to developing a patented women's sizing system called TrioFit, Rebecca has consistently combined creativity and practicality to build impactful businesses. Now, she's channeling that same drive into Synchrony—a new social app designed to help neurodivergent adults connect and combat loneliness in meaningful ways. On this episode we talk about: How Rebecca transitioned from fashion and retail into tech entrepreneurship The story behind founding Alice + Olivia and what she learned about branding and innovation Why ideas alone aren't enough—and how to validate your market before launching The challenges and benefits of self-funding vs. outside investment How Synchrony is using technology to address the loneliness epidemic among neurodivergent adults Top 3 Takeaways Great businesses start by solving problems you truly understand—personal experience is a powerful indicator of market need. Validation matters more than inspiration. Don't build before you know who actually wants your product. Bootstrapping gives you control, focus, and creative freedom that investors often limit. Notable Quotes “Ideas are easy. Execution and validation are what separate entrepreneurs from dreamers.” “When you solve a problem for yourself, you're often solving it for thousands of others.” “Connection is the most human need we have—and we're building a tool to make that accessible again.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jen Powell is the innovative CEO of JP Inc, a talent management agency revolutionizing influencer licensing with offices in LA, Nashville, and New York. With over 20 years of experience in modeling and influencer marketing, Jen has transformed the traditional fashion industry by embracing influencer-driven commerce early on, making her a unique leader in this space. On this episode we talk about: Jen's transition from a top modeling agent to a pioneer in influencer marketing Early success stories of monetizing fashion blogs through sponsorships The challenges and opportunities within traditional modeling agencies Founding JP Inc and growing it into a national influencer talent agency The future of modeling, including digital/AI models and the enduring need for human connection Creator brand development and licensing as a low-risk business strategy Details about Jen's course, "The Creator's Path to Product" Top 3 Takeaways Social media followership is now a critical factor in hiring talent within the modeling and influencer industries. Licensing allows creators to retain ownership of their intellectual property while scaling their brands with less risk. Despite advances in digital and AI models, authentic human connection remains vital in storytelling and marketing. Notable Quotes "If there's two models up for a job and one has 3 million followers and one has 5,000, the model with 3 million followers is going to get the job." "It's better to make everybody think you're dumb than to speak up and remove all doubt." "Human connection matters more than people think it does in modeling and storytelling." "Licensing your creator business offers a less risky path while you build your brand and audience." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tim Elmore is the founder of Growing Leaders, a nonprofit dedicated to developing emerging leaders, with over 20 years of experience working alongside leadership expert John C. Maxwell. He is a prolific author of 40 books on leadership, including his latest, The Future Begins with Z, which explores innovative strategies for leading Generation Z as they disrupt the modern workplace. Tim's insights into generational differences, leadership challenges, and entrepreneurship make him a valuable voice for anyone navigating today's rapidly changing workforce. On this episode we talk about: The unique characteristics of Generation Z compared to Millennials How Gen Z's relationship with technology and social media influences work habits The rise of micro-entrepreneurship among young people and economic shifts Leadership strategies for coaching and connecting with Gen Z rather than commanding The changing nature of work ethic and purpose across generations Top 3 Takeaways Connection and coaching are more effective than authority when leading Gen Z. Gen Z values purpose and flexibility in work, often seeing jobs more like hobbies. Micro-entrepreneurship is growing rapidly as many young people seek autonomy and reject traditional corporate models. Notable Quotes "Generation Z is the sandpaper on my leadership. I did not know I needed. We become better leaders because of them." "Your connection gives you the right to influence, not your position." "We've got to lead from bridges we build, not badges we wear." Connect with Tim Elmore: LinkedIn: Tim Elmore LinkedIn Twitter/X: @TimElmore Instagram: @timelmore Website: timelmore.com Growing Leaders nonprofit: growingleaders.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode features a candid conversation between Travis and his producer Eric, diving into the ways that religious backgrounds shape money mindsets and personal finance decisions. Travis reflects on his own experiences growing up in a large, well-resourced church and how both healthy principles and harmful attitudes have impacted his financial outlook over time. Through personal stories and playful banter, Eric and Travis explore the tension between gratitude, ambition, and the reality of pursuing financial stability. On this episode we talk about: Money lessons learned in church environments How religious upbringing impacts beliefs about wealth Church paradoxes regarding money and religious leaders Harmful vs. helpful financial mindsets from faith backgrounds Advice Travis would give his younger self about money Top 3 Takeaways Your spending reveals what truly matters to you—track where your money goes to understand your priorities and values. Religious environments often transmit complex and conflicting attitudes about money, sometimes discouraging the active pursuit of wealth while still praising and seeking it when helpful to institutional needs. The pursuit of money itself is not inherently wrong; examine your beliefs and recognize that financial empowerment offers options and flexibility that can benefit both you and your family. Notable Quotes "Where your money is, that's where your heart is. You can examine your expenses to quickly see your true priorities." "Churches talk about money as if it's evil, but they also highly value it when it serves their purposes—that dissonance can mess with your mindset." "Money is an amplifier of who you are. It by itself is not intrinsically good nor bad. Choose to see it as a tool for good and an option creator." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Emma Rainville is a fractional CEO and operations strategist with over a decade of experience transforming seven, eight, and nine-figure businesses behind the scenes. Known as the "integrator by DNA," she specializes in moving founders from burnout and cash bleed to scalable, profitable growth. Emma's reputation rests on her blunt, practical approach and her obsession with execution—not just theory—and on her proven ability to architect systems that protect profits and foster company culture. With her trademark SCOPE model and Wave Vision process, Emma helps businesses create sustainable systems that unlock new levels of efficiency and profit. On this episode we talk about: Emma's first entrepreneurial hustle at age eight and early lessons in leverage The hidden pitfalls founders face with unchecked expenses and chaotic systems Why most business owners fail to understand their true numbers—and how to fix it The critical role of SOPs: why written processes and automation trump hiring How AI and automation are disrupting labor-intensive businesses, from landscaping to admin work Emma's journey through the IDF, ER trauma nursing, and operations leadership—plus the real secret behind her career pivot Highest-leverage automation opportunities business owners miss The key mindsets and habits of growth-focused founders Top 3 Takeaways Unchecked expenses silently destroy profit—regular, ruthless review of every expense can unlock 3-4% profit instantly. Most business owners don't know actual unit-level profitability; tracking this granular data enables better decisions, higher margins, and less work. Strong businesses scale with written SOPs and automation, not by hiring; processes should come before people. Notable Quotes “Sales is king.” “Every dollar needs to have a name, and every person should know the numbers that matter.” “You can't automate chaos—get your processes right, then use AI and automation to scale.” Connect with Emma Rainville: https://www.instagram.com/emma_rainville512/?hl=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rob Dyrdek, entrepreneur, producer, and former pro skateboarder, is best known for creating and hosting "Ridiculousness," the viral video clip show that dominated MTV from 2011 to 2025. His relentless work ethic, innovative approach to the clip show format, and deep understanding of changing TV and streaming habits helped drive the show to unprecedented success, spanning 46 seasons and over 1,700 episodes. Dyrdek's business savvy made him not only a staple on TV but also one of the most well-compensated talents on the network, earning over $32 million a year in recent seasons. In this episode, Travis and Eric break down the recent news that "Ridiculousness" has been canceled after 14 years, explore the show's legacy, and share Dyrdek's insights from his past interview about content creation, business strategy, and media evolution.​ On this episode we talk about: The unprecedented cancellation of Ridiculousness after 46 seasons on MTV Why the show's viral format succeeded across all demographics and became a TV staple Rob Dyrdek's strategy for negotiating big business deals and content syndication The future of MTV and potential impacts of the Paramount merger on creative programming How Dyrdek adapted to shifts from traditional television to streaming and social media Top 3 Takeaways The relentless volume and fast-paced format of Ridiculousness helped the show thrive even as cable viewership habits changed and streaming dominated.​ Rob Dyrdek's approach to building, negotiating, and owning production allowed him to capitalize on market timing, adapt to new trends, and maximize personal earnings.​ MTV's shift towards curated, experimental content signals a major change in the network's strategy, reflecting broader media trends and the challenges of legacy cable brands competing in the streaming era.​ Notable Quotes "There's a lot of miraculous things that sort of happened over time that led to [Ridiculousness dominating MTV]." – Rob Dyrdek "You're the right man, right vision, legs – and created something and then made it work. But then you got lucky along the way, and market factors that you could have never even seen coming." – Rob Dyrdek "Market factors, market timing, getting lucky and things working at the right time is where a lot of this really unexplainable high level of success comes from." – Rob Dyrdek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to a grab bag episode of the Travis Makes Money podcast, where Travis and producer Eric riff on the reality behind success—highlighting why business is the great equalizer for anyone willing to put in the work. Rather than featuring a singular guest, this episode is a candid discussion between Travis and Eric, full of humor, pop culture, and philosophical digs about work ethic, optionality, the nature of talent, and actionable (if often ignored) business wisdom. They use standup comedy and pop references as a lens on entitlement, the “special snowflake” myth, and the sometimes mind-numbing monotony behind real progress. On this episode we talk about: Why most people settle for being a cog and what it actually takes to “opt out” Daniel Tosh's take on employment, entitlement, and the myth of guaranteed fame The difference between success in business versus creative arts: luck, timing, and talent Why simple, repetitive business actions (doing the boring work) are the true formula for income The reason people mock Gary Vee's advice, but why doing the basics still actually works Top 3 Takeaways Most people are held back not by talent or opportunity, but by their own acceptance of mediocrity and avoidance of repetitive, boring work that creates options and freedom. Business is fundamentally a learnable, math-like skill: boring, repeatable actions generate income better than “waiting for your shot.” Freedom requires you to learn how to make money outside of a paycheck—otherwise, you'll always be forced to trade your time for someone else's goals. Notable Quotes "The barrier to entry isn't talent; it's being willing to do the boring, repetitive work that most people constantly avoid." "For creative fields like acting or music, sometimes world-class talent never gets a shot—business isn't a zero-sum game that way." "You have to put yourself in a position to have options. Staying broke is another way of saying you decided to let someone else define your ceiling." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of the Travis Makes Money podcast, Travis and producer Eric jump into a mix of thoughtful, funny, and heartwarming clips, landing on a story about comedian Chris DeStefano and the challenge of choosing between earning more money and spending time with family. Chris discusses turning down work to prioritize his kids, sparking a candid conversation about career, sacrifice, and what success truly means at different life stages. On this episode we talk about: Why Chris DeStefano values family moments over chasing every dollar​ How personal circumstances and seasons of life dictate work/family choices​ Navigating parenting, money, and the tradeoffs of financial hustle​ Lessons from upbringings and parental examples, and their impact on work ethic​ Building a life that aligns with personal priorities, not just chasing excess​ Top 3 Takeaways You don't need all the money—knowing when “enough” is enough lets you choose family and peace over constant hustle​ Life happens in seasons—sometimes you must work extra, but intentional planning lets you cherish key family moments​ Children learn most by watching you; modeling responsible hustle and thoughtful sacrifice is as impactful as time spent​ Notable Quotes “I just feel like I don't need all of it. I just need enough for me … I don't want to miss my kids' lives.”​ “Kids don't need you there 24/7—they need you present for the moments that matter.”​ “Doing nothing is not the solution. Doing something is, and doing something in volume is even better.”​ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travis is joined by producer Eric for a wide-ranging, deeply philosophical episode exploring how beliefs, meaning, and personal philosophy influence the way money, work, and life are experienced. Both hosts share their takes on existential questions (with spontaneous detours into Star Trek, simulation theory, and work ethic), showing how practical mindset shifts are inseparable from financial success. On this episode we talk about: Various mental models that shape work, motivation, and the experience of meaning How philosophy—like Nietzsche's ‘eternal recurrence'—reframes choices and ambitions The importance of recognizing meaning as self-generated, not assigned by circumstance or others Why evaluating beliefs by their practical usefulness is a key discipline in modern business How accepting truth wherever you find it drives personal growth, resilience, and sharper decisions Top 3 Takeaways Philosophy matters: Questioning and reframing beliefs about meaning and agency lead directly to greater productivity and financial outcomes. Meaning is self-generated—thinking carefully about what keeps you going can reveal your true priorities and help you make better life and money choices. Adopt beliefs and mindsets that are useful for your growth—even if you can't prove them, lean into what propels you forward and out of ruts. Notable Quotes “Meaning is entirely self-generated. You decide, and it might change over time. So choose wisely.” “If a belief system isn't useful—if it doesn't propel you into meaningful action—why keep it?” “Accept truth wherever you find it, regardless of who says it. That's how growth happens.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode, Travis and producer Eric break down why building a career or business in 2025 means leveraging the power of content and relationships on social media. Drawing inspiration from powerhouse voices like Gary Vee, they explore the real tactics, mindset shifts, and simple habits that separate those who get results from those who just “post and ghost.” On this episode we talk about: Why creating content is no longer optional for business owners and sales pros The biggest mistakes new (and seasoned) agents make on social—and how to fix them Why “posting” alone isn't enough (and why engaging with others matters more) How to start from scratch: practical tips for getting over perfectionism and fear The right approach to building habits, including using accountability tricks and “just doing the thing” Top 3 Takeaways Social media attention is a massive business opportunity, but most people overthink and underact—just post, learn, and iterate in public. Engagement—commenting, DMs, reacting, and showing up in conversations—is what unlocks genuine relationships and leads. Stop screaming at the crowd; start talking to them. Consistency and volume win. Your first attempts might suck, but nobody wins without building the habit of simply creating and sharing. Notable Quotes “The number one thing that will change every person in this room's life financially is making content for social media.” “Doing nothing is not the solution. Doing something is the solution. And doing something in volume is even better.” “Social isn't a bullhorn—it's a cocktail party. If you're not actively engaging, you're just the weird guy yelling at everyone." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Erinn Nobel is an innovative real estate leader with over two decades of experience, starting as a solo agent and eventually building a successful team, scaling across state lines, and spearheading global growth for top brokerages like eXp and Real. Now, as co-founder of ENRG Realty, she's joined by Mark Chappell, a seasoned real estate investor and agent with more than 30 years in the business, who brings hands-on expertise from flipping houses, building teams, and mentoring new agents. Together, they're at the helm of ENRG Realty—a new brokerage focused on leveraging data, technology, and agent-centric systems to make real estate careers more sustainable and profitable in a rapidly changing market. On this episode we talk about: The real story behind launching a new brokerage (ENRG Realty) in a tough real estate market How Erinn and Mark built their real estate careers—starting as solo agents and enduring slumps and pivots Why data-driven tools and transparent revenue sharing are reshaping brokerage models Advice for aspiring agents on thriving regardless of market timing—what's myth, what's reality The unique culture, tech, and support that set ENRG Realty apart for new and veteran agents alike Top 3 Takeaways The best time to start in real estate is now—success depends more on drive, mentorship, and willingness to learn than on perfect market timing. New agent-focused brokerages like ENRG Realty thrive by combining seamless data integration, true agent support, and a share-based rewards system. Real estate rewards relentless action, transparency, and a willingness to adapt, with more people achieving financial freedom through property than any other industry. Notable Quotes "The market is the opportunity you make of it—there's always business for those willing to do the work." "Nobody owes you a dream life—you have to stop complaining, put your head down, and create it yourself." "We're building a brokerage that's agent-first: seamless data, real support, and a culture where everyone's success is connected." Connect with Erinn Nobel and Mark Chappell / ENRG Realty: Website: https://enrg.realty/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Wright is a speaker, author, entrepreneur, real estate investor, and digital marketing architect known for designing intelligent AI agents and automation solutions for business owners. After starting as a teenage lawn care entrepreneur and enduring a tumultuous journey through corporate HR, sales, and safety roles, Jason carved his own path by embracing the ups and downs of self-employment. Today, he runs Intentionally Inspirational, specializing in AI-driven marketing and automation for real estate investors and fellow entrepreneurs, helping them scale efficiently while keeping a sense of humor and authenticity at the forefront. How humble beginnings (mowing lawns for fishing tackle) sparked Jason's entrepreneurial bug—and why he rebelled against the "get a degree, find a boss" script.​ The struggle of his first business launch, running out of money, and being forced to ask family for support—and why hitting bottom forged business resilience.​ Pivots through jobs (cars, mortgages, publishing), freelancing on Upwork, and finally building a niche business serving real estate investors with automated marketing solutions.​ The essential mindset shifts: the world doesn't owe you anything, ego means nothing, and success requires adapting to rejection and uncertainty.​ Why discipline, over motivation, is key to entrepreneurship—and how the habit of working through difficult periods produces long-term results.​ Jason's advice for leveraging AI now, niching down, and automating the parts of business that drain your energy.​ Top 3 Takeaways You must earn your entrepreneurial credibility through setbacks, pivots, and doing the grunt work—even without recognition or immediate financial reward.​ Automate, outsource, and delegate aggressively; focus only on the work that maximizes your unique value and happiness.​ Embrace failure as a necessary precursor to growth—your timeline is unpredictable, and your highlight reel will be built on low points.​ Notable Quotes "The world doesn't owe you anything. Your ego doesn't mean anything in the entrepreneurial world."​ "Motivation is not required to get things done—even if you're not motivated, do it anyway."​ "Most business owners overestimate the value of their time, and underestimate the importance of discipline and automation."​ Connect with Jason Wright: Website: intentionallyinspirational.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

This episode flips the mic to dissect iconic movie sales scenes—especially the legendary real estate monologue from "Glengarry Glen Ross"—with Travis and producer Eric swapping stories from the trenches of commission sales. They break down the psychology of high-pressure closing, how silence can be an indispensable tool, and why consultative selling beats boiler room tactics for long-term success. What real sales moments get right—and wrong—in famous movies The thrill and dread of securing deals in 100% commission environments Why holding the silence is harder (and more effective) than most people realize The difference between authoritative vs. assumptive closes—and why discovery sets you up for the sale The emotional rollercoaster of sales jobs, from adrenaline rushes to crushing self-doubt Use silence as leverage; resist the urge to talk past your own close—let the prospect sit with the decision. Great sales begins with genuine discovery and honest self-selection—you want lifetime clients, not regret-fueled chargebacks. The close should be the natural conclusion to a quality conversation—practice assumptive and options-based closing for better results. "Most people just can't stand the awkward silence, but in sales, that's your friend—it gets the prospect thinking, and helps you avoid talking yourself out of a deal." "Don't overcome objections that haven't been spoken—otherwise, you talk yourself out of the sale." "Consultative selling doesn't force the close; it builds trust, clarity, and repeat business in the long run." ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this episode, Travis and producer Eric react to viral financial influencer Brandon Carter, aka King Keto's, raw and relentless advice for young people on how to save their first $100K. Brandon's story of grinding through multiple low-paying jobs and side hustles for 12 hours a day, 7 days a week in New York City is a wake-up call on the power of hustle, discipline, and focus. On this episode we talk about: The reality behind making $100K in your 20s through sheer hard work, sacrifice, and multiple jobs Why using free time strategically—avoiding distractions like partying, clubs, and frivolous spending—is key to wealth-building The value of creating a savings gap between income and expenses to fund your entrepreneurial dreams How Brandon's early hustle primed him for success when he launched his first business with capital already saved The balance between hustling hard and burning out—listeners reflect on their own work-life tradeoffs Advice on staying focused vs. scattershot hustling and the benefits of developing clear career clarity over time Top 3 Takeaways Hustle isn't glamorous, but it's effective: relentless work for sustained periods builds financial runway. Sacrifice short-term pleasures to create long-term financial freedom and opportunity to pursue what truly matters. Real success comes with focus and clarity, which often takes years to develop—don't rush, but don't waste precious time either. Notable Quotes “Work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, and save half your income. It's not for the soft or the punk.” “Using your free time effectively is the difference between building wealth or watching YouTube all night.” “Most 20-somethings have more free time than they realize—use it or lose it forever.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

On this episode, Travis and Eric dive into a viral clip from financial podcaster Caleb Hammer, known for brutally honest, entertaining, and accessible advice that puts real-life financial struggles under the microscope. Together, they unpack Hammer's take on emergency funds—and the problems with generic one-size-fits-all advice in personal finance. On this episode we talk about: Why $1,000 in emergency savings rarely works—and the psychological trap of feeling secure with too little cash How Dave Ramsey's famous “starter emergency fund” may work in theory, but often isn't enough in practice, especially for those with significant debt The real meaning of building financial discipline: Knowing your risk level, running the numbers, and tailoring your strategy How Travis approaches emergency savings for entrepreneurs vs. employees—and why life always costs more than you expect Tips for keeping your money liquid, accessible, but not so visible you lose your financial hustle Top 3 Takeaways Personal finance isn't one-size-fits-all—generic playbooks don't address your actual risks or needs. A starter emergency fund (like $1,000) is better than nothing, but long-term security needs three to six months of expenses—especially if your income is volatile. Financial discipline means both protecting yourself from unexpected setbacks and making your money work for you—don't let “safe” dollars stop you from growing. Notable Quotes “Life will always demand more money than you think it will.” “Past a certain dollar amount, every extra dollar should be out working for you. Money in a savings account loses value over time.” “You want that feeling of urgency when you look at your accounts—you should be hustling, not getting comfortable.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this special episode, Travis is joined by his producer, Eric, for a fun break-down of the worst financial advice out there—reacting to viral clips and sorting the truly terrible from the merely misunderstood. They cover everything from “buy low, sell high” myths to the dangers of credit cards and the unpredictable path of moving to NYC for your dreams. On this episode we talk about: Listening (and laughing) through clips of supposed “awful” financial advice—from cash hacks to leveraging credit as a college student Why “buy low, sell high” sounds easy, but almost no one—except 1% of day traders—actually wins playing that game over time The power of environment and why moving to a “dream city” could either ignite your career or send you financially underwater When using credit can make sense for disciplined business owners—but why most people should stick to cash Travis's ranking of the worst, most misleading, and situational money advice people keep hearing Top 3 Takeaways “Buy low, sell high” is not a strategy—it's gambling, and 99% of would-be day traders lose money over time. Your environment shapes your success; place yourself where the most opportunity exists, but only with a concrete, disciplined plan. Cash keeps you disciplined, but leveraged credit can be a useful tool—if you treat it like investment capital and avoid consumer traps. Notable Quotes “You're not going to beat the S&P 500—over 96% of funds and day traders fail to outperform the market.” “Don't confuse play money with nest egg money—it's fun until you gamble away your future.” “Environment shapes you, but most people never shape their environment.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

James Oliver is the founder of Atlas Bar, a clean, high-protein snack company built around real ingredients, adaptogenic superfoods, and a purpose-driven mission to help people unlock their full potential. While still a college student at Tufts University, James started experimenting in his kitchen and turned his early prototypes into a multimillion-dollar business that's thriving in the ultra-competitive nutrition space. On this episode we talk about: Why he jumped into an overcrowded market and how he found his niche by making real food first protein bars What it actually costs to start a brand—how he went from $5,000 to $1.5 million in revenue with zero outside funding The “freedom framework” of time, location, and financial choice that drove his entrepreneurial path Why Amazon is his secret weapon for scaling fast without the overhead of traditional retail The power of focusing relentlessly on product quality and iterating one improvement at a time Top 3 Takeaways There's always room for the best—crowded markets reward innovation, not imitation. A small starting capital and strong execution can outperform heavy investment when paired with discipline and product obsession. Great marketing starts with a great product; if people truly love it, word-of-mouth will do the rest. Notable Quotes “I started Atlas with $5,000 and a goal—to build freedom, not just a company.” “Every ingredient you see on the label is something you could find in your own kitchen.” “If you build a great product, people will tell other people about it—it's the purest form of marketing.” Connect with James Oliver and Atlas Bar: Website: atlasbars.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

William Vanderbloemen is the founder and CEO of Vanderbloemen Search Group, one of the leading executive search firms serving churches, nonprofits, schools, and values-based businesses. A former pastor and now a trusted advisor to mission-driven organizations, William has helped over 3,000 clients find leadership talent that aligns both in competence and character. He's also a Forbes contributor and the author of Work How You're Wired, Be the Unicorn, and Next: Pastoral Succession That Works. On this episode we talk about: How polishing his grandmother's silver as a kid sparked his entrepreneurial streak Lessons learned from ministry leadership that translated into building a multimillion-dollar faith-based search firm The moment he left job security to launch a business from scratch — in the middle of the 2008 financial crisis Why pursuing your deeper mission matters more than any financial metric The role of relationships, purpose, and wiring in long-term success How understanding your natural strengths can transform your leadership, career, and team dynamics Top 3 Takeaways You'll never have perfect clarity before you start—take the first step and let the next one reveal itself. Success looks different when you're doing work aligned with your unique wiring and purpose. No relationship is accidental—treat every connection as an opportunity to serve and grow. Notable Quotes “Work how you're wired. Everyone has unique lanes that make them better at what they do.” “If you wait until it's clean to take the first step, you've already missed your chance.” “You can do good and do good business at the same time.” Connect with William Vanderbloemen: Website: vanderbloemen.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Dan Simons is the co-owner of Farmers Restaurant Group, a mission-driven hospitality company behind the award-winning Founding Farmers brand, in partnership with the North Dakota Farmers Union. The group operates eight sustainably run restaurants, a distillery, and a catering company, all with one goal: to drive profits back to American family farmers while redefining how restaurants can serve people, planet, and profit in equal measure. On this episode we talk about: How Dan fell in love with teamwork and hospitality in college bar jobs His corporate climb from restaurant manager to VP and the turning point that pushed him into entrepreneurship Going broke—twice—before building a $100M restaurant business The three-year stretch living in his mother-in-law's basement while starting over Lessons from failed ventures, debt, and the mindset shift that built a thriving farmer-owned enterprise Why creating a people-centric culture is not just good ethics—it's good business Top 3 Takeaways Success is built through failure; each failure is an ingredient in your eventual success recipe. Find your deeper “why.” Profit is what happens when your purpose solves real problems for people. There's never a perfect time or enough money—start smart, stay lean, and play the long game. Notable Quotes “You'll never have enough money. So stop waiting and start building.” “We gave customers what we thought they needed—not what they wanted. That's how we failed our first restaurant.” “Failure isn't the opposite of success—it's part of it.” Connect with Dan Simons: https://www.dansimonssays.com/ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Shane Barker is the Founder and CEO of TraceFuse, the first Amazon-approved system for removing fraudulent negative reviews. With more than 25 years of marketing experience supporting Fortune 500 brands, Shane is a leading voice in digital influence and e-commerce integrity. His mission now: to protect honest Amazon sellers from fake reviews that destroy small business reputations—and give power back to real entrepreneurs. On this episode we talk about: The dark side of online reviews and how companies like Yelp and Amazon impact small business survival Why TraceFuse became the first Amazon Terms of Service–compliant solution for negative review removal The two-year grind it took to “crack the code” building TraceFuse from scratch Lessons learned from earlier startup failures and how to decide whether to quit or double down The danger of burnout, managing personal finances, and hiring a team that can keep you grounded How mentorship can shortcut the expensive learning curve for new entrepreneurs Top 3 Takeaways Review manipulation crushes small businesses—but true innovation means fixing broken systems without breaking the rules. Entrepreneurs often mistake constant growth for success; real wealth comes from clarity, focus, and sustainable scaling. Mentorship is a shortcut to mastery—paying for expertise can save years of trial, error, and wasted money. Notable Quotes “Yelp is like the mob—they'll tell you, ‘Pay us, or those reviews stay hidden.'” “It took two years to figure out how to do it right, but now we've removed over 14,000 fake reviews.” “If you're going to bet on something, bet on yourself. But get someone who's already done it to help you place that bet smarter.” Connect with Shane Barker: Website: ShaneBarker.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Patrick Leddin is a leadership expert, bestselling author, decorated Army veteran, and founder of two successful companies. As a former Airborne Ranger and 82nd Airborne officer, senior consultant at KPMG and Franklin Covey, and Vanderbilt professor, Patrick has coached thousands of people to lead through challenge and change. He's the author of The Five-Week Leadership Challenge and, with James Patterson, the new book Disrupt Everything: Win and Take Control of Your Future. On this episode we talk about: Patrick's unlikely journey from floundering college dropout and Army recruit to multimillion-dollar entrepreneur and bestselling author How the military taught him discipline and the value of following clear steps and systems Building and exiting a consulting company with his wife—from side hustle to full-time to acquisition Why “betting on yourself” can unlock more security and fulfillment than any traditional “safe” career path Insights from “Disrupt Everything”: Defining purpose, thriving under adversity, and finding opportunity in uncertainty Behind the scenes on co-authoring with James Patterson, blending powerful storytelling with actionable business wisdom Top 3 Takeaways Most “overnight” entrepreneurs start with side hustles, lots of hours, and calculated risk—build your skillset, then leap when the moment is right. Define your mission, values, and purpose early, and you'll weather any disruption or crisis thrown your way. True opportunity is often found in chaos—if you're willing to pivot and act when everyone else hesitates. Notable Quotes “If you can fail at what you don't want, you may as well take a chance on what you love.” “At some point, you need to ask, do you want a safe job—or would you rather bet on yourself?” “Times of uncertainty are fertile ground for opportunity—if you're clear on your purpose, you can disrupt everything and win.” Connect with Patrick Leddin: Website: patrickleddin.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Scott Harris is the founder of Magnetic Real Estate and a Wall Street Journal Top 150 agent, with over $2 billion in New York City residential sales. Creator of the Magnetic Method, Scott has guided clients through some of the most complex deals in America's most competitive market. In this episode, he shares his journey from warehouse shifts and music tours to building a seven-figure real estate career—and reveals what it really takes to thrive in real estate, no matter the market. On this episode we talk about: How growing up around family businesses built his work ethic and networking skills The pivotal leap from music and performing to top-tier real estate success What it actually takes to stand out (and survive) in a hyper-competitive city like NYC Why adding value and making authentic connections lead to repeat business and powerful referrals Building your schedule, handling time-wasters, and why agents who “go all in” thrive long-term The truth about timing, mindset, market cycles, and why now might be the best time to jump in Top 3 Takeaways Most success in real estate comes from sheer volume, discipline, and relentless networking—not luck or unique ideas. Relationship building, genuine curiosity, and giving without expectation are the real differentiators in crowded markets. Don't let market conditions scare you—some of the greatest fortunes are made in tough economies when others get scared off. Notable Quotes “If you add enough value and connect people, it always comes back. That's just the law of reciprocity.” “87% of agents wash out before year five—but if you're willing to do the volume, you'll beat the odds.” “Every market has opportunity; your belief, vision, and action matter more than interest rates.” Connect with Scott Harris: pursueyourhome.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Mitch Matthews is a bestselling keynote speaker, podcast host, and business coach who has taught over 1,000 coaches and speakers how to build seven-figure businesses through speaking, training, and corporate sponsorships. From selling bicycles as a kid to running a multimillion-dollar coaching business, Mitch has built a life around helping others unlock their potential, scale their influence, and make more money by mastering the art and mindset of sales. On this episode we talk about: Mitch's journey from bike shop stalker to professional speaker and business coach Lessons learned from tough B2B and pharmaceutical sales environments How to transition from corporate to entrepreneurship (the “side hustle to full launch” blueprint) Why selling is one of the purest forms of service when done right The mental shifts needed to stop seeing sales as manipulation and start seeing it as value creation Top 3 Takeaways Sales is not slimy—it's an art form that creates win-win outcomes when rooted in authenticity and curiosity. Every successful entrepreneur must learn to sell—because if you can't sell your idea, product, or service, no one will. True sales mastery is built on reps, rejection, and resilience—every “no” brings you closer to the right client. Notable Quotes “I started with a passion for bikes but quickly shifted to a passion for entrepreneurship.” “If you rush the sale, you build walls. If you serve first, you build trust.” “Half the world benefits from someone selling something every day—they just choose not to call it sales.” Connect with Mitch Matthews: Website: MitchMatthews.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Betsy Fore is a serial entrepreneur, CEO, and investor with nearly 20 years of leadership experience. She's the author of Built on Purpose: Discover Your Deep Inner Why and Manifest the Business of Your Dreams, founding partner of Velveteen Ventures, and a trailblazer in consumer products for children and the planet. Notably, Betsy scaled Tiny Organics past $13 million in revenue in just 24 months, took Wonder Woof! from scrappy startup to Oprah's Favorite Things, and was the first Native American woman to raise a Series A for a consumer food startup. On this episode we talk about: Growing up in a small Midwestern town, working every day since 13, and becoming a leading business creator Turning a garage-tinkering childhood into a career as a toy inventor, then product startup founder How relentless optimism, reinvention, and standing atop “a mountain of failures” led to big wins Advice for founders: building with community, manifesting vision, securing funding, and the importance of thinking big—even if you're starting small Behind the scenes of Tiny Organics' explosive first-year growth, building a cult following, and scaling product through grass-roots founding families Top 3 Takeaways Every breakthrough product stands on a mountain of failed attempts; grit and adaptability win. Community-first feedback loops create true brand evangelists and drive authentic scale. Dreaming big isn't just mindset—it's a practical approach to manifesting opportunity and wealth wherever you start. Notable Quotes “For every success, there's a mountain of failures you're standing on.” “You have to feel your deep inner ‘why' to reveal it and build on it.” “Not every company needs to be venture-backed, but every founder can build generational wealth by manifesting their vision.” Connect with Betsy Fore: Website: betsyfore.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Sun Yong Kim-Manzolini is a lifestyle mentor, accomplished options trader, and CEO of Lush Enterprises LLC. Rising from humble roots as an orphan, Sun Yong became a millionaire by combining relentless discipline with smart trading—transforming her husband's $164,000 account into $604,000 in under a year. She now inspires and teaches everyday people how to build skills for real, leveraged wealth through options, mindset, and self-belief. On this episode we talk about: The pivot from medical assistant to self-taught options trader after retirement How Sun Yong learned and practiced trading for over a year before risking any real money The power of discipline, schedule, and goal-setting for consistent financial growth Handling risk and loss with a positive mindset (including her own $50,000 loss—and six-fold gain) Why the barrier to entry is not knowledge, but the willingness to put in consistent work Top 3 Takeaways True financial change demands building new skills, setting daily routines, and investing in personal education. Consistent, disciplined trading with defined weekly/monthly goals creates sustainable results—not lottery wins. Mindset matters as much as strategy; treat money as a tool, not an end, to avoid unhealthy cycles and emotional traps. Notable Quotes “Most people take the freedom of retirement and avoid the work. I chose to create freedom by building new skills.” “If I gave up after losing $50,000, I wouldn't be where I am today.” “Money, used as a tool for opportunity, completely changes your life's trajectory.” Connect with Sun Yong Kim-Manzolini: https://www.instagram.com/author_sun_yong/ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

John Baird and Edward Sullivan are world-class executive coaches, best known for their work with Apple's leadership team and top innovators at companies like Nike. Together, they've coached founders and Fortune 10 executives, helping leaders grow from “Chief-Everything-Officer” to visionary CEO. In this episode, they break down the mindsets and tactical shifts needed to scale—whether running a scrappy startup or a global powerhouse. On this episode we talk about: How the best leaders delegate and coach their teams for sustainable growth Shifting from doing it all to long-term strategy (and why it's so hard to let go) The three priorities of a high-functioning CEO: cash, talent, and vision Practical tactics for transitioning out of daily tasks as the business scales Mentorship, coaching, and the difference between advisor and leader mindset Top 3 Takeaways Scaling requires pushing major decisions down into the org—not hoarding them at the top. World-class CEOs invest in talent and vision as much as product or operations. Great leadership isn't just delegation—it's developing decision-makers at every level. Notable Quotes “As quickly as possible, push strategic decisions down into the organization.” “Your best value is spent on cash, talent, and vision—not clinging to every daily detail.” “Coaching your team to see through your lens is how real scale happens.” Connect with John Baird & Edward Sullivan: Website: VelocityCoaching.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Aleric Heck is one of the world's top YouTube advertising experts. He's spent millions driving results for his clients and teaches entrepreneurs how to use YouTube ads to grow brands and generate real leads. As the founder of AdOutreach and YouTube Ads Academy, Aleric combines paid and organic strategies to help creators boost their YouTube presence—without sabotaging the algorithm or resorting to fake engagement. On this episode we talk about: How paid traffic really affects your YouTube channel (and when it actually harms it) The difference between in-stream and in-feed ads—and which one drives authentic growth Using YouTube's new Boost feature wisely for channel growth Why “buying subscribers” wrecks your watch time and channel authority How to test and amplify top-performing videos for smart channel scaling Top 3 Takeaways Boosting videos is powerful—when you use in-feed ads, not skippable in-stream ads. YouTube's algorithm prioritizes real watch time and retention—not fake views or subscriber spikes. Paid advertising should amplify content that's already performing, not cover up weak videos or content gaps. Notable Quotes “The problem isn't running ads—it's using them the wrong way.” “If your content is weak, no amount of paid exposure will make it last—it actually kills your watch time.” “YouTube's Boost feature just validates what we've known: authentic promotion supports real growth.” Connect with Aleric Heck: Website: AdOutreach.com Instagram: @alericheck ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Dan Martell is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and bestselling author of Buy Back Your Time, a blueprint for entrepreneurs who want to scale their business without losing their life in the process. After building and exiting multiple software companies, Dan shifted into teaching founders how to grow, systemize, and hire effectively—creating more freedom and profitability. His book, traditionally published with Penguin Random House, became an instant bestseller and sparked conversations about entrepreneurship, publishing, and building evergreen content. On this episode we talk about: Why Dan chose traditional publishing for his first book—and why he'd never do it again The realities of book advances, royalties, and creative control in traditional publishing The pros and cons of self-publishing vs going with a major house What it takes to create a perennial seller book that stands the test of time How Buy Back Your Time became an evergreen global bestseller beyond the business niche Top 3 Takeaways Traditional publishers offer credibility—but give away control over how you use your book as an asset. Self-publishing today allows creators to own their IP, control marketing, and build long-term ROI. The best books aren't funnels; they expand their category's body of knowledge and last for decades. Notable Quotes “I didn't need the advance. I just wanted to learn—and, honestly, a little ego.” “Traditional publishing feels great for credibility, but you lose control of your own product.” “I wrote Buy Back Your Time to create something evergreen—something that actually adds to the body of knowledge.” Connect with Dan Martell: Website: DanMartell.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Brenda Snow is an entrepreneur, philanthropist, and author who founded Snow Companies, the first-of-its-kind global patient engagement agency. After being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis nearly 30 years ago, she turned her personal struggles into a mission to give patients a voice, empower them through education, and improve their treatment experiences. Starting with no funding, she grew the company from just herself and one employee to over 425 staff, nine figures in revenue, and recognition as the gold standard for patient storytelling and support. On this episode we talk about: How Brenda's MS diagnosis inspired the creation of Snow Companies The power of storytelling in patient advocacy and engagement Navigating highly regulated industries while innovating solutions Growing from a one-client consultancy to a 400+ person global agency Why perseverance and hard work—not overnight virality—are the keys to lasting success Top 3 Takeaways Personal challenges can reveal massive gaps and opportunities for impactful businesses. Patient-first storytelling builds trust, connection, and long-term engagement like no marketing campaign can. Scaling from startup to nine-figure success requires years of hard work, culture-building, and strategic hiring. Notable Quotes “To be successful at anything, you have to work damn hard.” “Don't give up on yourself—entrepreneurship is hard, but it's super rewarding.” “The business plan presented itself because I saw so many unmet needs for people with life-changing illnesses.” Connect with Brenda Snow: Website: https://brendasnow.com/ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Ron Story Jr. is a serial entrepreneur, speaker, and the new owner of Guestio. He's also the founder of SpeakerHub, a global booking platform connecting speakers, podcasts, and event organizers. In the past year alone, Ron has done 125 podcast interviews, 31 speaking gigs, 205 daily webcasts, and written 138 articles—all while adding over $1 million in revenue to his businesses by using speaking and podcasting as growth engines. On this episode we talk about: How Ron generated $1M through podcasting, speaking, and content creation Using lifetime deals to solve churn problems in recurring SaaS models The smartest way to turn software buyers into loyal, long-term customers The mindset shift from selling lottery tickets to selling true business investments Why public speaking and podcast guesting are the fastest trust builders for any entrepreneur Top 3 Takeaways Churn—not customer acquisition—is what kills recurring revenue businesses. Treat your product as an investment in your customer's future, not as a cheap lottery ticket. Speaking and podcasting aren't just about visibility—they create pre-sold leads who already trust you. Notable Quotes “After you sell it, you've got to keep it—that's where the real cost begins.” “People invest in what they understand. The more they engage, the longer they stay.” “Most great speakers speak for free—the money's made when the audience becomes your clients.” Connect with Ron Story Jr.: Website: SpeakerHub.com/Guestio ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this clip, Joe Gatto takes us back to the very beginning of Impractical Jokers—long before the show became a worldwide hit. He shares the surprising story of how the idea was first sparked in a basement with a group of lifelong friends, and how those early moments of creativity turned into one of the most popular comedy series on TV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Levy is a behavioral scientist specializing in trust, leadership, and human connection. He's the author of the New York Times bestseller You're Invited and his latest book Team Intelligence: How Brilliant Leaders Unlock Collective Genius. Over the last fifteen years, John has helped thousands of leaders—from Nobel laureates to Olympians—understand how to create meaningful relationships, build trust faster, and foster cultures where teams thrive together. On this episode we talk about: Why relationships and trust are the ultimate currency in business and life The psychology of connection and why small acts build deep trust How to avoid manipulation while using behavioral science for good The difference between status and likability—and why likability always wins long-term How emotionally intelligent teams unlock “collective genius” and outperform talent alone Top 3 Takeaways Trust isn't gained by giving—it's built when others invest effort in you. True connection comes from benevolent intent, not manipulation—use psychology to serve, not to scheme. High-performing teams succeed not because they have the smartest people, but because they have the most emotionally intelligent dynamics. Notable Quotes “We can't buy relationships. The real question is—how do we get people to invest effort into us?” “If I told people how I designed my events, would they feel manipulated or cared for? That's the test.” “The reason we follow someone is simple—they make us believe tomorrow will be better than today.” Connect with John Levy: Website: https://www.jonlevy.com/ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Bob Chapman is the CEO of Barry-Wehmiller, a $4 billion global capital equipment company and author of Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family. Over his 50-year leadership journey, Bob transformed a struggling $20 million family business into a multibillion-dollar enterprise using a blend of sound business design, creative acquisitions, and a culture of truly human leadership. His work proves that success and compassion aren't opposites—they're partners. On this episode we talk about: How Bob turned a near-bankrupt family company into a $4 billion global organization The nine-month period of surviving day-to-day on cash and what it taught him about resilience Why your business model—not metrics alone—is the true engine of wealth creation The strategy behind 150+ acquisitions and how he found value others missed The power of combining common sense, creativity, and positivity in leadership Top 3 Takeaways Cash is the oxygen of business—understanding its flow is fundamental to growth and survival. True leadership requires calm under crisis; your team follows your attitude more than your words. A great business model is your engine, but a caring culture is the premium fuel that makes it perform. Notable Quotes “Cash is the foundation of your ability to be a good steward of your business.” “There's no relationship between what something costs and what it's worth.” “Our business model is the engine, but our culture is the premium fuel.” Connect with Bob Chapman: Website: BarryWehmiller.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Mark Matson is the bestselling author of Experiencing the American Dream: How to Invest Your Time, Energy, and Money to Create an Extraordinary Life, and founder of Matson Money, a firm managing over $12 billion in assets. Known for making Nobel Prize–winning investment science accessible to everyday families, Mark has spent decades teaching people how to invest prudently, avoid speculation, and build wealth that serves a greater purpose. On this episode we talk about: Why most financial advice is based on false promises of predicting the market The dangers of stock picking, market timing, and chasing performance How modern portfolio theory and academic research can guide smart investing Practical asset allocation and the discipline of rebalancing Why having a purpose for your money matters more than money itself Top 3 Takeaways The market can't be reliably predicted—success comes from disciplined asset allocation and rebalancing, not gambling. Emotional decisions in down markets often lock in losses; sticking to your plan yields far greater long-term returns. Money alone won't make you happy—invest with purpose, aligning your finances to your values and life goals. Notable Quotes “All the knowable information about the future is already in the stock price today.” “Leave your money in the market and rebalance—don't pull it out during downturns.” “Money for money's sake never works; it has to serve a purpose greater than itself.” Connect with Mark Matson: Website: MatsonMoney.com Instagram: @MarkMatson1 ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Amanda Goetz is a two-time founder, four-time CMO, and single mom of three who's helping ambitious people redefine what “having it all” actually looks like. She inspires over 150,000 readers each week through her Life's a Game newsletter and her new book, Toxic Grit: How to Have It All and Actually Love What You Have. In this conversation, Amanda shares a grounded, intentional approach to ambition—one that makes space for work, relationships, and personal growth without burning out. On this episode we talk about: Why Amanda believes ambition isn't toxic—it's lack of intention that is How to embrace “and” thinking instead of living life as an “either/or” equation The hidden cost of letting one identity (career, parent, partner) take over your life How to transition between roles, build hierarchy, and avoid constant guilt The five pillars of Amanda's “portfolio career” and how to start building one yourself Top 3 Takeaways The solution to overwork or burnout isn't quitting ambition—it's learning to balance all your “characters” with awareness and structure. A thriving career doesn't have to compete with family, purpose, or rest—it can coexist when you embrace the and. Genuine success comes from self-awareness and human connection—two things that automation and hustle culture can't replace. Notable Quotes “Life isn't an or statement—it's an and. You can chase goals and still build a life you love.” “Toxic grit happens when one character takes over the whole storyline of your life.” “You can't automate your way out of human connection.” ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this clip, Travis makes friends with Patrick Bet-David, the founder of Valuetainment, as they discuss the DNA of an entrepreneur. Patrick talks about how he can't imagine not building a business, and how it's ingrained in his DNA to see a business grow and individuals succeed as a team. They also explore why this is the case and Patrick shares his story of how he was never someone who would have been predicted to succeed, yet he found his way to success. Join Travis and Patrick in this insightful conversation that delves deep into what it takes to be an entrepreneur and how to succeed against all odds. Learn from the experiences of one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the world and discover the secrets to building a business that can change the world. ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

In this episode of the Travis Makes Money podcast, Travis Chappell sits down with Elina Panteleyva, the founder of DudeWolf, a thriving seven-figure brand for doodle dog breeds. Elina shares her inspiring journey from being laid off to building a successful business in just 15 months, all without a team or prior e-commerce experience. Tune in to discover how Elina's entrepreneurial spirit and innovative approach have helped her create products that doodle owners love. ✖️ ✖️ ✖️ ✖️

Garrett White is a multi–eight-figure entrepreneur best known for founding the Wake Up Warrior movement. Before that, he rode the highs of the mortgage boom, only to lose everything when the 2008 financial crisis hit. His businesses collapsed, his finances imploded, and his personal life spiraled into addiction and rock-bottom moments. But out of that devastation, Garrett rebuilt his life and business with a new philosophy—one focused on certainty, truth, and becoming a true entrepreneur instead of just a hustler. On this episode we talk about: The difference between being a hustler and truly being an entrepreneur How the 2008 recession exposed weaknesses and reshaped Garrett's mindset Hitting rock bottom with addiction, broken relationships, and financial ruin The role of faith, truth, and what Garrett calls "certainty" in rebuilding his life The beginnings of the Wake Up Warrior movement and lessons for today's uncertain economy Top 3 Takeaways Hustling might get you short-term wins, but building something lasting requires foundation, leadership, and a long-term vision. Real entrepreneurship requires a shift from individual hustle to creating systems, certainty, and "kingdoms" that can withstand chaos. True leadership comes from authenticity and certainty—qualities that can't be faked or purchased. Notable Quotes "We were not entrepreneurs. We were hustlers." "If you have certainty, you can create in chaos. If you don't, you'll be destroyed by it." "Truth is the ember that reignited everything—without it, I had nothing." Connect with Garrett White: https://garrettjwhite.com/ ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Dave Munson is the founder of Saddleback Leather Company, a brand known for building rugged, overbuilt leather bags designed to last 100 years. What started in a small Mexican leather shop grew into a globally recognized business with collaborations alongside Toyota and Martin Guitar. Beyond business, Dave and his wife Suzette also lead Love 41, a nonprofit supporting communities in Rwanda, Mexico, and Texas. His adventurous life has included escaping an assassin, surviving danger in Mexico, and building a family-owned business that became a worldwide success. On this episode we talk about: How Dave turned a need for a durable book bag into Saddleback Leather His first scrappy sales tactics involving homemade signs on his Land Cruiser Moving to Mexico, surviving an assassin encounter, and navigating unexpected dangers How eBay became the platform that validated his business idea The importance of striving to be the best and building products that sell themselves Top 3 Takeaways Sometimes a successful business starts with solving your own problem—in Dave's case, creating a bag he couldn't find anywhere else. Exceptional products don't just sell; they create demand from day one by being designed to last and built with integrity. To stand out as an entrepreneur, choose to be the best at something—even in crowded markets—through expertise, quality, and relentless improvement. Notable Quotes "I told the leatherworker, I want my grandchildren to fight over this when I'm dead." "My first marketing sign was just a sheet of paper taped to my Land Cruiser—‘Cool leather bags for sale.'" "If you're going to do something, don't blend in. Try to be the best at it." Connect with Dave Munson: SaddlebackLeather.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Dean Graziosi is one of the world's leading entrepreneurs, multiple New York Times bestselling author, and business partner to Tony Robbins at mastermind.com. In this special replay, Dean shares the powerful story of how discovering Tony Robbins' teachings during his early twenties didn't just make him a millionaire—but gave him the mindset to build, risk, and thrive. From blue-collar hustle to building 13 successful companies, Dean reveals the mindset hacks, risk-taking habits, and wealth foundations that anyone can use to change their story and amplify their results. On this episode we talk about:   How Dean went from small-town tow truck driver and real estate investor to entrepreneur, course creator, and Tony Robbins' business partner   The transformational impact of Tony Robbins—shifting from self-doubt to self-education and masterminds   Why amplifying the right “voices” and controlling your environment are keys to personal and financial growth   Masterminds, risk, and the real secret to success (it's not a tactic—it's matching mindset to the right plan)   Why having a big enough reason—either pain or pleasure—beats talent, luck, or even timing Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Success and risk tolerance aren't about luck or skills—they come from strengthening the right voice in your head, controlling your environment, and fueling a compelling vision for the future.2.  Self-education (books, masterminds, mentors) is the “unfair advantage” that turned a hustler into a multimillionaire—and remains the foundation for exponential growth and resilience.3.  Personal development isn't fluffy: unless you shape your beliefs, you'll never follow through on the best strategy or tactic—mindset plus action is the only proven path. Notable Quotes   “We all have two voices: strengthen the one that says, ‘Let's do this'—the other only grows with inaction.”   “Mindset and foundation, plus the right strategies, is where exponential growth comes from.”   “If you wouldn't risk for your dream, ask yourself if you're willing to stay exactly where you are for the next five years.” Connect with Dean Graziosi:   Instagram: @deangraziosi   Website: deangraziosi.com   Book: Millionaire Success Habits   Mastermind/Training: Mastermind.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Watch the full episode: https://youtu.be/QIgtWupkhh8 Join us on the Travis Makes Friends podcast as we dive into an incredible conversation with Michelle 'Mace' Curran, a decorated U.S. Air Force veteran and former Thunderbird lead solo pilot. From her small-town roots in Wisconsin to flying F-16s in combat and inspiring audiences as a motivational speaker, Michelle shares her journey, the challenges of being a female fighter pilot, and insights from her new book, The Flip Side: How to Invert Your Perspective and Turn Fear into Your Superpower. Buckle up for an inspiring episode filled with high-flying stories and life-changing lessons! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travis and producer Eric break down one of the most polarizing topics in entrepreneurship: is it better to bootstrap a business, or raise outside capital? Drawing on personal experience and lessons from startup culture, Travis reveals the biggest mistakes founders make when chasing VC funding, why Silicon Valley's obsession with investment misleads so many, and the first principles everyone should use to decide how to launch any new company. On this episode we talk about:   The dangers and downsides of raising funding too early—even if the “checklist” seems to fit your business   Why bootstrapping builds discipline, pressure, and actual proof of concept (and how to get creative when money is tight)   When venture capital makes sense—and all the hidden costs of taking outside money, from loss of control to preferential contracts   How AI is changing the software startup equation, and shrinking the need to raise massive amounts of funding   Lessons learned from infamous failures (like Quibi) and the right ways to audit your business before chasing investment Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Bootstrapping is almost always the better first move; it boosts discipline, real market feedback, and keeps control in the founder's hands.2.  Raising outside capital adds pressure, complex contracts, and doesn't guarantee success; cash alone never fixes a business that lacks product-market fit.3.  Use trusted frameworks (like Reid Hoffman's Blitzscaling checklist), consult experienced founders, and remember: don't give away control unless it's truly required for growth. Notable Quotes   “If at all possible, bootstrap first—even just to prove your concept. Outside money makes everything more complicated.”   “Cash doesn't solve all your problems. There are usually bigger issues at play—product, marketing, market fit—that have nothing to do with funding volume.”   “The moment you take other people's money, it gets harder, not easier; discipline and focus will always win.” Connect with Travis Chappell:   LinkedIn: Travis Chappell on LinkedIn   Twitter/X: @travischappell   Instagram: @travischappell   Website: travischappell.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

MichaelAaron Flicker is founder and CEO of XenoPsi Ventures, a brand incubator that generates millions in annual revenue and celebrates four-time Inc. 5000 honors. Launching his business at 14, MichaelAaron has expanded XenoPsi into nine thriving companies—including DTC success story Wellow ($20 million in revenue, self-funded)—while also consulting for Fortune 500 clients and co-authoring Hacking the Human Mind. Flicker's work centers on applying behavioral science to marketing, growth, and brand strategy, making him a go-to advisor for high-growth businesses and political campaigns alike. On this episode we talk about:   Starting and scaling a brand incubator from a teenage side hustle to a portfolio of top-performing businesses   How behavioral science transforms marketing, product, and political campaign strategy (from “Chilean Sea Bass” to iPods)   Critical psychological biases every marketer should know (naming, concreteness, social proof)   The art/science of making products memorable and believable—why one clear message beats a laundry list of features   Applying behavioral insights ethically (and knowing when to simplify so your message lands with real customers) Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Understanding and leveraging behavioral science is key to building memorable brands and driving growth in any industry.2.  One clear, concrete message about your product will outperform complicated “lists”—clarity is persuasive and sticky.3.  Ethical marketing means matching your product's strengths to people's real needs, using behavioral tools to open minds rather than manipulate. Notable Quotes   “The simple words we use make a big difference—the way you describe and brand your offer is as important as the product itself.”   “If people can't picture a result, they won't remember or believe it—concreteness is four times more effective than abstraction.”   “Every business is in the persuasion business—behavioral science is the best way to understand what truly influences people.” Connect with MichaelAaron Flicker:   LinkedIn: MichaelAaron Flicker   Website: XenoPsi Ventures   Book: Hacking the Human Mind   Podcast: Behavioral Science for Brands ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this skills-focused episode, Travis and co-host Eric Kruczynski debate which core competency—sales, marketing, or operations—would make the biggest difference for young professionals and future entrepreneurs. With humorous banter and personal anecdotes, they lay out the case for each skill, reflect on their own career pivots, and highlight why both product-first thinking and communication are more critical than ever for making money in today's economy. On this episode we talk about:   The pros and cons of going deep in sales, marketing, or operations as a foundational skillset   Why Travis wishes he'd doubled down on marketing after cutting his teeth in sales   The hidden importance of learning to communicate and interact with adults from a young age   Why product-led growth beats everything (Naval's hierarchy: Product > Marketing > Sales)   Real examples: Savannah Bananas' ESPN deal, Manscaped, CarMax, and how big brands use these skillsets to win Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Sales is indispensable for young professionals to learn communication, persuasion, and how to speak “adult”—but marketing has the highest earning upside in most modern businesses.2.  Product is king: the greatest companies invest first in world-class product, then marketing, with sales as a fallback if needed.3.  Differentiation is critical—even brands with average products (like early Manscaped) can win if marketing is exceptional, but nothing replaces a truly great offering. Notable Quotes   “Sales is learning to speak the language of adults and persuasion; marketing is sales at scale.”   “Sales is what you do when you've failed at marketing; marketing is what you do when you've failed at product. Product is king.” (paraphrasing Naval)   “Build something so good that people can't help talking about it—organic always beats paid.” Connect with Travis Chappell:   LinkedIn: Travis Chappell on LinkedIn   Twitter/X: @travischappell   Instagram: @travischappell   Website: travischappell.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

Shannah Game is not your typical money person—she's a certified financial planner, financial trauma specialist, podcast host, and author of Unraveling Your Relationship With Money. With a unique blend of creative and financial expertise, Shannah has built a career helping women (and men!) reframe their beliefs about money, midlife, and reinvention. Eschewing the stiff suits and tired advice, Shannah is known for her real talk: tackling financial trauma, midlife pivots, and the emotions underlying all our money decisions. On this episode we talk about:   Shannah's journey from lemonade stands and arts management to financial planning, media, and bestseller lists   How financial beliefs, not just numbers, keep people stuck (and why budgets alone don't work)   Overcoming scarcity thinking in today's economy, especially for millennials, Gen Z, and women   Learning to prioritize spending on what really matters—without shame, guilt, or comparison   The actual emotional and behavioral tools to heal money trauma and finally build wealth on your own terms Top 3 Takeaways 1.  Money is never just math—it's a mix of early beliefs, emotions, and behaviors we can rewrite at any stage in life.2.  Focusing on what you control (mindset, habits, priorities), not what's out of reach, is key to overcoming financial frustration in an uncertain economy.3.  Your path to financial peace starts by becoming unapologetic about what really matters to you and letting go of status games and outside expectations. Notable Quotes   “Money isn't just about money—real change means understanding your emotional relationship with it, not just the math.”   “If you can get self-aware in your twenties and say no to what doesn't matter, you'll thank yourself for decades to come.”   “What we present on the outside is never the full story—many people with the coolest cars and nicest watches are a financial mess underneath.” Connect with Shannah Game: Instagram: @shannahgame Website: heyshannah.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this episode, Travis and producer Eric dive into the uncomfortable but crucial world of pricing your services and mastering sales. They discuss real strategies, share personal struggles, and break down Alex Hormozi's now-famous “closed rate pricing gauge cheat sheet.” Whether you're a freelancer, agency owner, or business leader, you'll learn how to stop undercharging for your work, confidently sell your value, and turn price conversations from awkward to awesome. On this episode we talk about:   How to use close rates to determine if your prices are too low (or too high)   Overcoming anxiety around sales and setting prices for friends, family, and clients   Writing scripts and using prep tools (like ChatGPT) to gain confidence before making offers   Sales conversation frameworks—discovery, demo, value-building, and closing   Actionable advice for firing low-value clients, upselling, and navigating new price points Top 3 Takeaways 1.  If your close rate is above 60–80%, you're probably undercharging; double or triple your prices and focus on building real value for the right clients.2.  Good sales is about diagnosing problems and becoming a trusted advisor—not just pitching; scripts, discovery, and prep are your friends.3.  Retention is easier than acquisition, but honesty and transparency are key when raising prices or letting legacy clients go. Notable Quotes   “If you can describe the problem better than they can, people will assume you have the solution.”   “Most people aren't paying for a deal—they're paying for results from someone they trust to deliver.”   “You're either selling stuff or building stuff. Everything else is noise.” Connect with Travis Chappell:   LinkedIn: Travis Chappell on LinkedIn   Twitter/X: @travischappell   Instagram: @travischappell   Website: travischappell.com ✖️✖️✖️✖️