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Welcome to Legally on the Move, the Lawyers Retreat Ibiza 2026, a special legally speaking podcast mini series sponsored by Clio. We're back here in Ibiza as the official media partner for the Lawyers Retreat. And if last year taught me anything, it's this, when you get the right people in the right environment, good conversations quickly turn into real opportunities. Across this series, we'll be bringing you voices, ideas and honest reflections from a retreat built around leadership, wellbeing, AI, growth, business development and the future of law. So whether we're poolside, post panel or catching up in between sessions, expect practical insights, fresh thinking and conversations that go beyond the surface. Trevor Sterling is a senior partner and founder of "Be The Ladder." He is recognized for his exceptional ability to connect with people and has led major trauma initiatives for decades. Trevor is committed to developing others and emphasizes the importance of having an open mind. He is also active on LinkedIn and TikTok, where he shares insights as "Trevor D Sterling" and "Diary of the Senior Partner," respectively. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Trevor discussing:- Simultaneously Being a Senior Partner and Founder- The Lawyers Retreat's Values for Growth- Ignoring Noise and Distraction- Helping and Developing Others in Leadership- Showcasing Young Talents' Potential.Connect with Trevor Sterling here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dr-trevor-d-sterling-hon-causa-33841320

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Sam Grimley. Sam is a Barrister at One Essex Court. He specialises in commercial, competition and intellectual property litigation and has appeared in disputes before the High Court, IPEC and UKIPO. Before pursuing a career at the Bar, Sam worked with artists including Sir Tom Jones, Ed Sheeran and Jessie J. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Sam discussing:- Career Transition from Music to Law- Transferable Skills and How to Use Them Well- Resilience Through Hardship and Academic Challenges- The Importance of Seeking Feedback and Mentorship- Current Practice and Specialist Legal Work at One Essex CourtConnect with Sam Grimley here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sam-grimley-47105224

Welcome to Legally on the Move, the Lawyers Retreat Ibiza 2026, a special legally speaking podcast mini series sponsored by Clio. We're back here in Ibiza as the official media partner for the Lawyers Retreat. And if last year taught me anything, it's this, when you get the right people in the right environment, good conversations quickly turn into real opportunities. Across this series, we'll be bringing you voices, ideas and honest reflections from a retreat built around leadership, wellbeing, AI, growth, business development and the future of law. So whether we're poolside, post panel or catching up in between sessions, expect practical insights, fresh thinking and conversations that go beyond the surface. Ryan Hopkins is an author, speaker and CEO of Healthy. He has a background in leading wellbeing initiatives at Deloitte and Bupa, focusing on making wellbeing accessible and practical. Ryan emphasizes the importance of understanding oneself and creating quality time. He advocates for simplifying wellbeing practices and encourages embracing one's authentic self. His book, "52 Weeks of Wellbeing," offers practical tips for personal growth. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Ryan discussing:- Focusing On Wellbeing and Personal Growth- The Importance of Simplifying Wellbeing Practices- Ryan's Book, "52 Weeks of Wellbeing," - Embracing One's Authentic Self and Making Small, Intentional Changes- The Need for Digital Sanity.Connect with Ryan Hopkins here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/theryanhopkins

Welcome to Legally on the Move, the Lawyers Retreat Ibiza 2026, a special legally speaking podcast mini series sponsored by Clio. We're back here in Ibiza as the official media partner for the Lawyers Retreat. And if last year taught me anything, it's this, when you get the right people in the right environment, good conversations quickly turn into real opportunities. Across this series, we'll be bringing you voices, ideas and honest reflections from a retreat built around leadership, wellbeing, AI, growth, business development and the future of law. So whether we're poolside, post panel or catching up in between sessions, expect practical insights, fresh thinking and conversations that go beyond the surface. Our poolside panel is happening right now as we dive into this miniseries, so stay tuned for a thrilling discussion!So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and the panel discussing:- The Inspiring Voices from the Lawyers Retreat.- Importance of Time Management.- How the AI Adoption Journey Begins.- Deciding Your Professional Path.- Avoiding Potential Mistakes Now.

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Felix Riley. Felix is a Business/Moonshot Strategist, passionate about helping organisations take a creative approach to problem-solving and growth. He has a wealth of experience as a comedy writer, Global Executive at an NYSE-listed brokerage, and is the author of two best-selling Penguin novels,‘The Set Up' and ‘The Inside Job'. Felix is committed to equipping teams with practical frameworks for thinking differently and driving meaningful change in their organisations So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Felix discussing:- Helping Law Firms Stop Playing Small- A Positive AI Revolution- AI enabling Quicker and Further Progress- The Importance of Brainstorming and Reimagining Work- Functional Tasks Being Done Quckly and Effectively by Machines.Connect with Felix Riley here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/felix-riley-brilliant-thinking

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Imani Maatuka. Imani is a Managing Partnerof the Dallas Office at Maatuka Al-Heeti Emkes LLC.She is also the Co-Founder of the Bridging the Gap Scholarship, supporting minority students pursuing a career in corporate law. Recognised among Top 40 Under 40 attorneys, Imani has built a demanding legal career while leading purpose-driven initiatives.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Imani discussing:- Outsourcing as A Strategic Advantage, Not a Shortcut- Preparation Building Credibility and Confidence- Early Ownership Accelerating Career Growth- How to Advance with the Most Meaningful Experiences- Leadership Meaning Something Bigger Than YourselfConnect with Imani Maatuka here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/imanimaatuka

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Daniel DiMaria. Daniel is the Co-Founder and CRO at Spellbook. As a lawyer, he helped build the legal AI tool now used by 4,000 corporate lawyers and law firms. Daniel, having worked in the legal industry firsthand, is passionate about driving the goal of making lawyers' working lives easier and more enjoyable through technology.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Daniel discussing:- Focusing on a Core Problem to Drive Success.- How AI Must Be Grounded and Verifiable.- LLMs Transforming Legal Workflows.- Why AI Augments Lawyers Without Replacing Them.- Data-Driven Insights Being the Next Frontier.Connect with Daniel DiMaria here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-di-maria-340b80ab

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Kate Gaskell. Kate is the CEO of Flex Legal. She was previously an Associate at Allen & Overy, and has more than 20 years of experience in the legal profession. Kate was the Director of Transformation at LexisNexis UK and is now an Advisory Board Member for qLegal. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Kate discussing:- Flex Legal as an Alternative Legal Services Provider.- How AI is Considered a Challenging and Creative Area.- Flex Launching a Qualifying Work Experience Training Scheme for Aspiring Solicitors.- The Scheme Includes a Dedicated Social Mobility Initiative.- The Advice Given For Individuals From Non-Traditional Legal Backgrounds.Connect with Kate Gaskell here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kategaskell1111

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Nick Abrahams. Nick is an AI Pioneer and Business Futurist, creating the world's first AI-enabled privacy chatbot. He is a successful entrepreneur who co-founded Lawpath, an AI-powered legal services platform. Nick spent 25 years in partnership at Norton Rose Fulbright and is now dedicated to working with law firms and in-house teams on their AI strategies. He is also a comedian, with his show ‘The Accidental Lawyer' scheduled for this year's Sydney and Melbourne Comedy Festivals.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Nick discussing:-  AI Not Replacing Lawyers But Reshaping Their Work- The Real Value Of Legal Services: Peace Of Mind- AI Increasing Legal Disputes, Not Reducing Them- Problem-Led Innovation Overcoming Product-Led Hype- Relationships And Trust Being Key To Driving Change In Law FirmsConnect with Nick Abrahams here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickabrahams/

In this Legally Speaking Podcast episode, Joshua Lenon, Lawyer in Residence from Clio discusses the current state and future of AI in the legal profession, emphasising workflow integration, transparency, and the transformative potential of agentic AI for law firms.KeywordsAI in legal, legal technology, Clio, legal AI, workflow automation, agentic AI, legal innovation, legal practice management, legal insights, legal industry futureKey TopicsAI adoption in law firmsWorkflow integration and redesignAgentic AI and autonomous legal tasksTransparency and data security in legal AIFuture trends in legal technologyChapters00:00Introduction to AI in Legal Practice02:58The Gap in AI Adoption Among Law Firms06:04Rethinking Technology Integration in Law09:11The Importance of Context in Legal AI12:10Clio Work: Enhancing Legal Context and Efficiency14:57Agentic AI: Transforming Legal Tasks17:46Transparency and Data Security in AI20:56The Future of Legal Services with AI23:58AI's Role in Increasing Demand for Legal ServicesResources

Welcome to the fifth and final episode of Legally on the Move: Professional Training in 2026. This was our brand new miniseries which explored what makes high-performing teams in law, focusing on leadership, communication, resilience, trust, and psychological safety. In the last minisode of this series, Rob interviews Ian Noble, an account executive at Clio EMEA, discussing the importance of clarity over revenue as a performance driver, the distinction between accountability and fear in organisational culture, and the significance of understanding the "why" behind actions for effective collaboration. They also touch on the theme of resilience, emphasising the need for sustainable practices and the power of pausing to reset. The conversation highlights Clio's commitment to transforming the legal experience and its alignment with the conference's focus on high-performing teams.You can Hear Rob and Ian talking about:- Leadership And Communication Being Essential For High-Performing Legal Teams.- How Clarity Is More Important Than Revenue As A Performance Driver.- Accountability Empowers, While Fear Hinders Organisational Culture.- Sustainable Resilience Requiring Knowing When To Pause And Reset.- How Clio Is Committed To Transforming The Legal Experience For All.Connect with Ian Noble - https://www.linkedin.com/in/iannoble3/?locale=pt

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Ben Williams and Iain Cockburn. Ben and Iain are both Founding Partners of YPOG's (You + Partners of Gamechangers) new UK team. This is one of Europe's fastest-growing tech-focused law firms.Ben, a former partner at Withers Tech, is an IP, IT and data protection specialist. He has experience advising high-growth, IP-driven clients who are often VC-backed or science-led.Iain was a Partner at Withers Tech, recognised for his work in venture capital by Legal 500. He advises investors and founders across Europe. Iain is passionate about how technology can reshape legal service delivery. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Ben and Iain discussing:- AI as an Enhancer, Not a Replacement- The Shift Towards Tech-Enabled Legal Service Delivery- A Strong Alignment Between Client Demand and Innovation- New and Specialised, Tech-Focused Law Firms- International Expansion and Ecosystem PositioningConnect with Ben Williams here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/ben-williams-a1983a22Connect with Iain Cockburn here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/iain-cockburn-5869a414

Welcome to the fourth episode of Legally on the Move: Professional Training, our brand new miniseries which explores what makes high-performing teams in law, focusing on leadership, communication, resilience, trust, and psychological safety. In today's minisode, Susan Glenholme, Managing Partner at Debenhams Ottaway, shares insights on the importance of culture, belonging, and psychological safety in enhancing team performance. She stresses the need for trust and collaboration across different functions within a firm, highlighting her experience transitioning from a private client lawyer to a managing partner. The discussion also touches on the balance between resilience and unhealthy endurance, and the significance of striving for continuous improvement within legal teams. The episode concludes with Susan sharing her firm's social media and website details for further engagement.You can Hear Rob and Susan talking about:- Culture and a Sense of Belonging In Legal Teams.- Trust and Collaboration Being Key to Enhancing Team Performance.- Psychological Safety Encouraging Creativity and Open Communication.- Balancing Resilience and Endurance.- Continuous Improvement and Self-Measurement Driving Better Legal Services.Connect with Susan Glenholme - https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-glenholme-1816881b/

Welcome to the third episode of Legally on the Move: Professional Training, our brand new miniseries which explores what makes high-performing teams in law, focusing on leadership, communication, resilience, trust, and psychological safety. In this minisode, James Jorgensen, the Head of Professional Liability at HDI Global, discusses the intricacies of high-performing teams in the legal sector. James emphasises the importance of understanding the unique ways law firms operate and the critical role of good lawyers and clients in achieving success. He highlights the significance of psychological safety in fostering creativity and collaboration, and the need for a culture of accountability over fear. James also shares insights on resilience, collaboration, and the impact of effective training on reducing risk exposure. He underscores the importance of setting clear goals and aligning team efforts with the broader vision of the organisation. James concludes by inviting listeners to explore HDI Global's diverse offerings and expresses his enthusiasm for being part of the legal community's transformation. You can Hear Rob and James talking about:- High-Performing Teams in the Legal Sector.- The Importance of Psychological Safety and Collaboration.- Highlighting the Role of Good Lawyers and Clients for Success.- The Need for Accountability Over Fear in Law Firms.- Encouragement for Goal Setting and Alignment with Organisational Vision.Connect with James Jorgensen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesjorgensen/

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by James Oldnall. James is the Managing Partner of Milberg and is a commercial litigator. He has experience in disputes in financial markets, private equity, data protection and fraud. James has worked on many UK high-profile commercial disputes, appearing in the national press. In 2016, he had 2 cases named in ‘The Lawyer's Top 20 Cases of The Year'. James has also been ranked Band 2 by Chambers in its 2024 guide for Group Litigation, Claimant. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and James discussing:- Career Journey and Entrepreneurial Shift- Importance of Team Building- Challenges of Starting a Law Firm- Litigation and Regulatory Differences- Role of Curiosity and AdaptabilityConnect with James Oldnall here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/james-oldnall-771b2024

Is partnership still a job for life in law?In this episode of the Legally Speaking Podcast sponsored by Clio, Rob Hanna sits down with Simon Marshall, Founder of TBD Marketing, for a timely conversation on what senior lawyers are really thinking about partnership, loyalty, recognition, succession and growth in today's legal market.For years, the private practice career story felt clear. Associates worked towards partnership. Partnership meant status, security and long-term commitment.That certainty is now being tested.Drawing on fresh survey data from across the UK legal market, Simon shares what partners are actually saying behind the scenes and why law firm leaders should pay close attention.In this conversation, we cover:• Why 1 in 5 partners are not sure they will still be at their firm in the next three years• Why 96% would still recommend their firm, despite clear frustrations in the model• What a 2.6 out of 10 fairness score says about how contribution is measured• Why practice and sector leads appear to feel especially under-recognised• The growing disconnect between equity and salaried partners• What the data says about succession planning and confidence in the next generation• Whether firms are pushing strategic change faster than they are bringing their people with them• The hard truth law firm leaders may need to face nowSimon Marshall is the Founder of TBD Marketing and has built a strong reputation for gathering honest market insight from across the legal sector. This discussion is packed with practical perspective for managing partners, senior leaders, talent teams, legal marketers, recruiters and ambitious lawyers thinking seriously about the future of private practice.

Welcome to the second episode of Legally on the Move: Professional Training, our brand new miniseries which explores what makes high-performing teams in law, focusing on leadership, communication, resilience, trust, and psychological safety. On today's minisode, Peter Riddleston discusses the importance of high performance, which is often measured by revenue and utilisation. He focuses on the significance of understanding team dynamics and the role of purpose in driving success. In today's hybrid work environment, leadership behaviours that foster collaboration and psychological safety are crucial. The conversation also contrasts cultures of accountability versus fear and highlights the importance of resilience and collaboration in achieving high performance, with Peter expressing a strong passion for utilising these themes at Lawnet.You can Hear Rob and Peter talking about:- High Performance Measured In Revenue And Utilisation.- How Purpose is Absolutely Crucial Here.- Being Deliberate is About Connection.- Learning Experiences Improve Psychological State.- People More Likely To Own Results.Connect with Peter Riddleston - https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-riddleston/

Welcome to the first episode of Legally on the Move: Professional Training, our brand new miniseries which explores what makes high-performing teams in law, focusing on leadership, communication, resilience, trust, and psychological safety. In this episode, Nadine Stanton, CEO of Professional Training Limited, discusses the importance of having a central theme for conferences and involving speakers from both inside and outside the legal industry to provide fresh perspectives. The conversation highlights the significance of community, delegate engagement, and creating a safe space for open dialogue. The episode concludes with an invitation to future events and webinars hosted by Professional Training.You can Hear Rob and Nadine talking about:- What the Conference Provides for High-Performing Legal Teams.- Nadine's Views On Having a Central Theme and Diverse Conference Speakers.- Community Building and Delegate Engagement for a Successful Conference Experience.- Future Conference Theme Announced: Managing Change in Various Aspects of Business.- An Invitation to Join Upcoming Webinars and Events Hosted by Professional Training.Connect with Nadine Stanton - https://www.linkedin.com/in/professional-training/

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Ahmed Elnaggar. Ahmed is the Founder and Managing Partner at Elnaggar & Partners. He has over a decade's experience in Corporate Structures, Succession Planning and Trust Services. Ahmed has expertise dealing with clients worldwide, including Bahrain, Qatar, Mauritius and Switzerland. Ahmed is also the proud Founder and President of the Emirates Legal Network. He is on a mission to help extend the law to people, launching The Jurist, the number one legal show across the MENA region providing a platform for lawyers, legal consultants and experts to share their knowledge. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Ahmed discussing:- Building a Successful Firm Requiring Trust- Clear Ownership Preventing Inheritance Issues- Offshore Structures Offering Legal Safety- How to Avoid Postponing Succession Planning Decisions- Team Building Focusing On Shared ValuesConnect with Ahmed Elnaggar here - https://ae.linkedin.com/in/aelnaggar

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by George Hannah. George is a Solicitor Apprentice at a law firm in London. He joined the firm after completing his A-Levels in Biology, Chemistry and Economics. George is currently sitting in the Immigration Department and is a member of the Immigration Practitioners' Legal Association. He is also the Founder and Editor of Best Practice.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and George discussing:- Commercial Awareness Being Essential In Law Firms- Law Firms Being Cautious With AI Adoption- Demand For AI-Related Legal Advice Increasing- Future Legal Practices Likely Including Dedicated AI Law Expertise- Early-Career Lawyers and Apprentices Already Engaging With AI DiscussionsConnect with George Hannah here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-hannah-042078217/

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Wendy Jephson. Wendy is the CEO and co-founder of Let's Think. She is a dual qualified lawyer, business psychologist and serial tech entrepreneur.Wendy co-founded a fintech using behavioral science to detect financial crime, which was acquired by NASDAQ in 2017. She created and led NASDAQ's research and ideation function, developing behavioral science led products to help financial services firms detect anomalous behavior.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Wendy discussing:- That Partners May Not Have Immediate Answers- How to Encourage Deeper Thinking- The Importance of Listening to Experienced Users- High Cost of Training Lawyers- Technology's Role in Improving EfficiencyConnect with Wendy Jephson here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/wendyjephson

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by David Pope. David is an Executive Voice Coach, based in Hong Kong. He runs CPD-accredited communication skills workshops and 1-on-1 coaching sessions. With over 30 years of experience, David has worked with thousands of legal professionals globally in Magic Circle, US and local firms. He has coached legal professionals in Hong Kong, Tokyo, Sydney, Singapore, Dubai, Riyadh and London. David is passionate about helping good speakers become great speakers. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and David discussing:- Society's Lack of Vocal Awareness- Voice Projection & Breath Control- Making the Most of Vocal Variety- Confidence VS Warmth Imbalance- Over-Imitating Others Instead of Trusting Their Own VoiceConnect with David Pope here - https://hk.linkedin.com/in/popedavid

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Philip Fornaro. Phil is the Managing Attorney of Fornaro Law. He is also the host of Light Bulb Moments, talking to leaders, entrepreneurs and creatives about ideas sparking change. Philip is passionate about the Outside General Counsel model and how it is transforming legal services into a true business partnership.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Philip discussing:- An Inspiring Entrepreneurial Journey- The Outside General Counsel Model- The Importance of a Positive Energy & Mindset- Community and Charity Work- Why We Need to Embrace New Technology Connect with Philip Fornaro here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/fornarolaw

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Björn Benckert. Björn is the Founder and Managing Partner of Avery Law. He is a corporate lawyer, specialising in M&A transactions. Björn trained at Norton Rose Fulbright and worked at Dewy & LeBoeuf LLP, before founding Avery Law in 2012. Björn built the firm to “provide the kind of clear, strategic and practical legal support fast-growing businesses truly need'. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Björn discussing:- How Involvement in Every Part of the Business is Crucial- Focus on Two Main Things for Success- Emphasising a More Commercial and Client-Focused Approach- Tasks That Took an Hour and a Half That Can Now Be Done in Five Minutes- Doing this can lead to earning more money and greater career satisfaction.Connect with Björn Benckert here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/bjornbenckert

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Jonathan Wearing and Richard Coulthard.Jonathan is the Managing Director of Ison Harrison. A personal injury solicitor, Jonathan, has helped the firm grow in size, strength, and profile. He has transformed the firm into one of the first law firms in the country to become an exclusively Employee Owned Business in 2022.Richard is the Director and Head of Corporate at Ison Harrison. He has a wealth of experience in corporate law, commercial law, litigation, dispute resolution and employment law. He is also an Employee Ownership Trust specialist. With an ‘aims-focused' approach, Richard strives to provide first-class legal advice and support, going above and beyond to help his clients succeed. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Richard and Jonathan discussing:- Ownership Structures Shaping Culture More Than Leadership Titles- Long-Term Success Depending on Cultural Readiness, Not Just Financial Viability- Efficiency-Enhancing Technology Magnifies Human Connection, Not Replacing It- Clear, Purposeful Storytelling amplifying Competitive Advantage and Stakeholder Trust- Transitioning to an Employee Ownership Model Connect with Jonathan Wearing here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-wearing-8ab2821a Connect with Richard Coulthard here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/richard-coulthard-8b840677

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Lloyd Clarke. Lloyd is a Partner and the Head of Employment & Business Disputes at Attwells Solicitors. He has wide-ranging experience across property, employment and business law. Lloyd is known for his practical, down-to-earth approach with clients. He is passionate about how changes in property and employment law are affecting both individuals and small businesses. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Lloyd discussing:- Digital Footprints Being More Permanent Than They Appear- Nuance in belief protection- Employing Clear Policies and Training- The Dangers of Reputational Harm- Social Media & Online Presence MonitoringConnect with Lloyd Clarke here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lloyd-clarke-2bb41b47

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Deborah Farone. Deborah is an internationally recognised marketing strategist and CEO of Farone Advisors LLC. She advises leading law firms, professional services organisations and executives in Europe, Asia and the US on business development and leadership strategy. Deborah has lectured at top universities, including Cornell Law and NYU. She is also the best-selling author of Best Practices: Marketing and Business Development for Law Firms and recently released her latest book ‘Breaking Ground: How Successful Women Lawyers Build Thriving Practices'. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Deborah discussing:- The Power of Authenticity in Legal Business Development- The Importance of Early Relationship-Building and Networking- Overcoming Unique Challenges for Women in Law- Strengthening Business Development Skills Through Practice and Resilience- Embracing Change: Diversity, Training, and AI in the Legal IndustryConnect with Deborah Farone here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahfarone

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Niki Avraam. Niki is an employment lawyer and law firm founder. She is also the Head of WORKWELL Europe, leading the transformation of workplace culture across the UK and Europe. With 2 decades' expertise in law, leadership and culture change, Niki is passionate about preparing people for the future of work. Niki's mission goes beyond the legal landscape–she believes individuals should have profound satisfaction in their work. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Niki discussing:- The Importance of Embracing Discomfort in the Workplace- Building Invigorated and Engaged Workforces- The Role of Authenticity in Leadership- Operationalising Ownership Culture in Organisations- Unlocking Potential Through Adaptability and LearningConnect with Niki Avraam here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/nikiavraam

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Mark Evans. Mark is the president of the Law Society of England and Wales. He is the 181st president, and has more than 28 years of experience in residential, commercial and agricultural property transactions and succession planning. Mark's presidential themes include a professional Fit for the Future, championing our members and supporting solicitor well being. His mission is to promote the excellence, diversity and innovation of the solicitors profession, all whilst upholding the rule of law and access to justice. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Mark discussing:- Shaping the Future: Embracing Innovation and Diversity in Law- Bridging the Gap: Tackling Legal Deserts and Expanding Access to Justice- Strengthening the Profession: Raising the Bar for Legal Education and Training- Prioritising Wellbeing: Transforming Mental Health for Lawyers- Building Community: Connecting the Legal World through Running and Shared Experience Connect with Mark Evans here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mark-evans-57927917

Welcome back and thank you for being part of the Legally Speaking podcast journey. We appreciate your listening, sharing, showing up, and for sticking with us as this podcast packed its bags and traveled the world. From Dubai to Ibiza, from the Festival of Entrepreneurs to Mercedes world, all the way through to ClioCon 2025 in Boston, Massachusetts. You joined us with every step of the way, and that means everything to us. A massive shout out as well to our incredible sponsor, Clio. backing the show, supporting the vision, and helping make these conversations possible. Coming up right now, as we come to a close with Season 9, we're going to be rolling straight into the snippets from the top 10 episodes of Season 9, bringing you the moment you loved, shared, and replayed the most. And here's the thing, this isn't goodbye, not even close. So don't go anywhere because season 10 is just around the corner. We're coming back bigger, bolder and better than ever. This has been an incredible season. Thanks for joining us on the adventure. Happy New Year and we'll see you very soon.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and his guests discussing:- What Comes Next for Legally Speaking Podcast- Disruptive Legal Career Journeys- Advocating for Clients in Medical Negligence- Leadership and Diversity in Legal Practice- Navigating Sanctions and White Collar Crime- Exploring Private Wealth Law- AI and Legal Technology Trends- Legal Tech Research and Innovation- Entrepreneurial Journeys- Expert Guidance and Advice from Seasoned Veterans in LawStay Tuned here - https://legallyspeakingpodcast.com/

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Brett Colvin. Brett is the CEO and Co-Founder of Goodlawyer, branded Canada's most trusted in-house counsel network, Goodlawyer provides cost-effective in-house legal solutions. Goodlawyer has helped over 5,000 businesses and they are just at the start of their venture. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Brett discussing:- Flexible Legal Careers with Goodlawyer- Embracing New Legal Technology- Leadership & Company Culture- Strategic Customer Focus- Community and Brand BuildingConnect with Brett Colvin here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/brettrcolvin

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Damien Riehl. Damien is a lawyer with experience in litigation, counselling businesses, handling cybersecurity crises and managing intellectual property matters. He has represented Fortune 500 companies, startups and nonprofits. He is also the Solutions Champion at Clio. As a technologist, Damien has spent more than a decade designing and developing AI tools in the legal practice. His goal is to build technology connecting law to the people it serves. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Damien discussing:- AI Transforming Legal Services- Data Quality and Access- Ethical and Practical Impacts of Legal Tech- Intellectual Property in the Age of AI- Alignment of Tech with Human and Legal ValuesConnect with Damien Riehl here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/damienriehl

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Marco Imperiale. Marco is the Founder and Managing Director of Better Ipsum. He graduated with a Master's from Harvard Law School in 2016. Marco was an entertainment and copyright lawyer, before becoming the Head of Innovation of a leading Italian law firm. Marco now sits as the President of the Wellbeing Committee. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Marco discussing:- The Evolution of Legal Design: Embracing User-Centric Services- Navigating the Intersection of AI and Legal Innovation- The Importance of Flexibility in the Legal Profession- Mental Health and Well-being: A Priority in Law Firms- The Role of Legal Design in Enhancing Access to JusticeConnect with Marco Imperiale here - https://it.linkedin.com/in/marco-imperiale/en

Today's Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ Live, sponsored by Clio, with Andrew Berger was a masterclass in where copyright law is heading and what's now at stake for creators, technologists and the courts. Here are a few highlights:

AI has exploded across the legal industry but for many lawyers, it still feels overwhelming, risky, or simply “not for them.” Today's guest has made it his mission to change that. Joining us is Robert Eder an intellectual property lawyer, legaltech educator, and one of Europe's leading voices on AI prompting for lawyers. Robert designs legal automation solutions, and teaches lawyers around the world how to use AI safely, effectively, and creatively. Robert has trained hundreds of lawyers across Europe and is one of the clearest voices on how to use AI responsibly, safely and with real legal precision.  Here are a few standout takeaways:  Lawyers aren't bad at prompting they're undersold. Their analytical mindset actually gives them an advantage.  Most people still treat AI like Google. Adding structure through XML tags, roles and answer-levelling changes everything.  The first AI skill every lawyer should learn isn't drafting it's controlling output. Structure before substance.  Hallucinations aren't a deal-breaker. Responsible AI frameworks give you quality control, not guesswork.  You don't need 70% of AI tools on the market. With the right prompting, one model + the right workflow beats shiny software every time.  Legal prompting is not the same as general prompting. Law has edge cases, nuance, and risk your prompts must reflect that. Two general points to reflect on:Lawyers don't need to become engineers. They need to become better communicators with machines.If you don't understand prompting, you'll always think AI is unreliable — when in reality, it's only as clear as the instructions you give it. It's practical, hands-on and genuinely career-shifting. AI isn't replacing lawyers. Lawyers who understand AI are replacing the ones who don't.

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Grace Williams. Grace is a Certified Health and Nutrition Coach. A former Whit & Case Associate, she has experienced the high-pressure environments of working at a US law firm. Grace's mission is to support high-performing individuals, personalised nutrition and lifestyle strategies, all whilst developing their energy, resilience and wellbeing. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Grace discussing:- Elevating Legal Performance Through Well-Being and Resilience- Going From Burnout to Breakthrough with a Path to Sustainable Success- Tailored Strategies for Health: The Next Level of Lawyer Well-Being- Techniques for Staying Resilient in Law- Power Habits and Honest Conversations and Wellness EssentialsConnect with Grace Williams here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/grace-williams-coach

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Darryl Cooke. Darryl is the Co-Founder and Executive Chairman of Gunnercooke LLP, an award-winning international law firm. Darryl's firm is known for redefining what it means to lead and innovate in professional services. A successful corporate lawyer, Darryl has built one of the UK's most disruptive legal firms - and is on a mission to change the legal model, putting people and purpose at the core of business.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Darryl discussing:- Creating a Revolutionary Fee-Share Model- How to Live Through Values, Not Just Words- Methods of Empowering Leadership- Making the Most of Community-Driven Impact- Designing Your Life, Your WayConnect with Darryl Cooke here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/darryljcooke

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On the final episode of our miniseries, we round off the conversations at Clio Con with Alexander Almazan. He is the founder and managing partner of Almazan Law, a 30-person firm based in Florida with offices in Miami, Tampa and Palm Beach. He specialises in civil defence, insurance defence, real estate, and commercial litigation. Alex is a consistent attendee of Clio Con, emphasising the importance of staying ahead in legal technology field. He is an advocate for AI adoption in law, highlighting his firm's successful implementation of AI timekeeping, which greatly improved efficiency and ROI. He encourages legal professionals to embrace innovation, overcome unfounded fears about AI, and connect with him on LinkedIn for industry insights and collaboration. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Alexander discussing:- Staying Ahead & Embracing Legal Technology at Clio Con- How AI Timekeeping Transforms Law Firms- Building a Tech-Forward Firm Culture- Leading with Vision: Earning Team Trust Through Innovation- Fostering Collaboration & Building Connections in the Legal IndustryConnect with Alexander Almazan here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-almazan-8b681115

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, we get the chance to speak with Niamh Pollak. She is the Vice President of Legal at Clio, bringing extensive international legal experience and a strong focus on plain language, transparency, and customer-centric practices. Known for her multilingual background and global perspective, she leads Clio's legal team through innovation in legal tech and compliance, notably overseeing product launches and contributing to major company initiatives like the Vlex deal. Niamh champions the use of AI for efficiency, fosters collaboration across departments, and is recognized for her impactful leadership in the rapidly evolving legal industry. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Niamh discussing:- Clio's Global Impact: Revolutionizing Legal Tech from Boston to the World- Balancing Innovation and Risk: Navigating AI's Role in Legal Practice- Transparency in Legal Products: Ditching Jargon for Client Trust- AI-Powered Legal Teams: Elevating In-House Counsel Beyond Routine- Uniting Brilliance: Collaboration, M&A Innovation, and ClioCon 2025 HighlightsConnect with Niamh Pollak here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/niamh-pollak-69867b3

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Emily Monastiriotis.Emily is the Global Managing Partner at Simmons & Simmons. She specialises in international construction disputes and is a market-leading expert on fire safety cases. Her work has been recognised in the Lawyer Top Cases of 2024. Emily firmly believes in her three guiding principles - clients, people and technology. Earlier this year, she was named on of Financial News' Top 50 Most Influential Lawyers 2025.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Emily discussing:- Emily's Inspiring Path to Leadership- How to Lead with Integrity- Pioneering Innovation at Simmons & Simmons- A Balancing Act: Emily Monastiriotis' Secrets to Resilience- Building a Creative Legal CultureConnect with Emily Monastiriotis here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/emily-monastiriotis

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, we get to to Harsha Chandra Shekar. He is the Vice President of Business Development at Clio. Formerly a corporate attorney at a large law firm, he transitioned from practicing law to the business and technology side of the legal industry. Drawing on influential experiences at companies like Uber, Harsha brings a strategic and adaptable approach to building partnerships and driving innovation at Clio, especially in areas involving AI, data and legal technology ecosystems. So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Harsha discussing:- Clio's Strategic Partnerships- AI and Data-Driven Innovation- Lessons from Big Tech- Trust and Data Protection- Uniting Brilliance: The Collaboration and ExecutionConnect with Harsha Chandra Shekar here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/harshacs1

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, we get to speak with Denise Farmer. She is Clio's General Manager for the APAC region. Denise is recognised for leading Clio's growth and innovation efforts across Asia-Pacific, expanding the team, and helping drive legal tech adoption in a diverse and rapidly evolving market. Denise emphasises the importance of collaboration, change management, and partnerships with law societies and universities. She is passionate about using technology to improve efficiency for law firms, democratise access to justice, and support pro bono work. Denise is personally excited by the rapid pace of innovation, her growing APAC team and the transformative opportunities technology brings to legal professionals in the region.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Denise discussing:- APAC Diversity & Opportunity- The Promise of AI & Cloud- Overcoming Change Management- Partnerships for Progress- Access to Justice & Team GrowthConnect with Denise Farmer here - https://au.linkedin.com/in/denisefarmer

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Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, Sarah Murphy is our guest! She is Clio's Manager for International Business, playing a pivotal role in driving the company's global expansion and regional strategies. She is recognised for her leadership in scaling Clio's presence across diverse legal markets, intentional team-building, and commitment to fostering a mission-driven, customer-centric culture. Sarah has experienced remarkable career progression at Clio, and she is soon to celebrate the opening of Clio's new EMEA HQ in Dublin - a milestone reflecting her and her team's significant achievements within the organisation.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Sarah discussing:- Clio's Global Reach, Local Focus- Mission-Driven, Passionate Culture- Client Experience & AI Lead Legal Tech- Awards Highlight International Impact- Leadership Development Fuels Hyper-GrowthConnect with Sarah Murphy here - https://ie.linkedin.com/in/sarah-murphy-96503b22

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Jacqueline Watts. Jacqueline is an Emerging Technologies Lawyer at boutique law firm, Allin1 Advisory. She is also the Head of Corporate Commercial Law. Jacqueline is passionate about discussing law in the virtual world - publishing her book on ‘Law in the Metaverse'. Earlier this year, she was on the panel as part of the City of London's Access to Finance for Early-Stage SMEs, and at the end of last year, she spoke about legal issues concerning the metaverse & Web3 at the Tech Summit.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Jacqueline discussing:- The Evolving Role of Lawyers in Emerging Technologies and AI- Why the Metaverse Matters and How Immersive Virtual Worlds Reshape Legal Practice- Regulatory Challenges and the Future Governance of Virtual Rnvironments- The Importance of Contractual Foundations for Innovators and Tech Founders- Ethical, Safety and Human-Behaviour Considerations in Virtual and Immersive SpacesConnect with Jacqueline Watts here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/wattsjacqueline

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, we speak with Joshua Lenon, the Lawyer in Residence at Clio. He is a New York-licensed attorney and is passionate about legal technology. Joshua plays a key role in thought leadership at Clio, often participating in industry-leading research and discussions on AI, legal practice transformation, access to justice, client satisfaction, and ethics. He is recognised for his innovative mindset and direct involvement in advancing legal technology's role in law firms and client services.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Joshua discussing:- Legal Technology's Impact at Clio Con 2025- Neuroscience Studies Reveal AI Benefits for Lawyers- The Importance of Client Satisfaction in Law Firm Growth- Ethical and Transparency Considerations in Legal AI- Data-Driven Insights Advancing Access to JusticeConnect with Joshua Lenon here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshualenon

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, we talk to A.J. Axelrod. He is the VP of Payments and Financial Services at Clio, responsible for leading the company's payment and financial product innovations. A.J. is focused on making legal services more accessible through new solutions like Pay Later and Clio Capital, aiming to remove financial barriers for both clients and law firms. A.J. is dedicated to compliance and security, works closely with reputable partners, and values customer feedback to drive adoption and usability. His approach emphasizes clear, context-specific solutions for legal professionals, and he is enthusiastic about Clio's mission and advancements showcased at his first Clio Con.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and A.J. discussing:- Innovation and Updates in Clio's Legal Payments- Addressing Legal Affordability through Flexible Payment Solutions- Ensuring Compliance and Building Trust in Financial Technology- User Feedback and Rapid Adoption of Clio Payment Features- The Evolving Intersection of Legal Tech and FinTechConnect with A.J. Axelrod here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajaxelrod

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, Michelle Dunlea is our guest. She is the Vice President of Product Management at Clio. Known for her strong customer-centric mindset, Michelle leads Clio's product strategy, focusing on unifying and innovating legal technology solutions. At Clio Con 2025, she shared insights on the company's approach to AI integration, team collaboration, and building products that truly address lawyers' real-world needs. Michelle's leadership emphasises listening to customers, thoughtful design, and empowering teams to create lasting impact in legal tech.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Michelle discussing:- One Platform Ruling Legal Work: Clio's Vision in Action- How to Design with Lawyers, for Lawyers- AI That Works While You Work- Triads of Innovation: Teams Uniting to Transform Legal Tech- Invisible AI, Lasting Impact - The Future of Law Starts NowConnect with Michelle Dunlea here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/michelledunlea

On today's Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Emerald De Leeuw-Goggin. Emerald is the Global Head of AI Governance and Privacy at Logitech. She is also the Co-Founder of Women in AI Governance, a professional network advancing women's leadership in AI regulation, policy and governance. Emerald has been recognised as one of the top 100 European Female Founders to follow. She has been awarded European Young Innovator of the Year, Privacy Executive of the Year 2023 and Women in AI Ambassador in 2024.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Emerald discussing:- Values-Driven AI and Privacy Governance- Cross-Functional, Collaborative AI Governance- Global Compliance Through Unified Standards- Women in AI Governance and Inclusive Leadership- Balancing Innovation and Ethics Through Stable PrinciplesConnect with Emerald De Leeuw-Goggin here - https://ie.linkedin.com/in/emeralddeleeuw

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world's leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.On today's minisode, we got the chance to speak with Jenny Dingus. She is the Senior Vice President (SVP) of Global Sales at Clio. Jenny is a key leader responsible for shaping sales strategies, integrating AI, fostering company culture, and supporting Clio's mission during Clio Con 2025. She is also known for her transparent and empathetic leadership style, prioritising both high performance and strong human connections within her global sales team at Clio.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Jenny discussing:- Clio Con 2025: Showcasing Legal Technology Innovation- Transforming Sales Strategies Aligned with Clio's Mission- Leveraging Artificial Intelligence in Sales Operations- Leadership Values: Performance, Empathy, and Culture at Clio- Clio's Growth, Achievements, and Highlights from the ConferenceConnect with Jenny Dingus here - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennydingus

What if the litigation model we've relied on for decades… is actually broken? Today on the Legally Speaking Podcast™ Live, sponsored by Clio, our host Rob Hanna, sat down with Collin Williams, Founder & Chairman of New Era ADR, to explore how technology is reshaping the future of dispute resolution.Collin's journey from Big Law to legal tech founder is a masterclass in courage, creativity, and conviction.Here's what we uncovered:- The moment he realised traditional litigation was no longer fit for purpose- Why fear, not technology, is often the biggest barrier to innovation How - New Era ADR is making arbitration faster, fairer, and more accessible - What law firms must do now to stay ahead of the next wave of legal tech- Why diversity of thought is non-negotiable when building the future of law “Litigation shouldn't take years or millions to deliver justice; technology can make it faster, fairer, and more human.” “The legal profession doesn't need to be disrupted; it needs to evolve with purpose.”Collin's passion for access to justice and innovation is contagious and a timely reminder that the legal world can, and should, work better for everyone.