Podcasts about funnel hackers

One of the cool "Ah-ha's" I had today, sitting in our 2CCX, Inner Circle, Category Kings mastermind group. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com Magnetic Marketing ---Transcript--- What's up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today I'm sending you a message from beautiful Mexico. Hey, what's up everybody? So we are here actually at the Two Comma Club X Inner Circle/Category Kings Mastermind group, which is exciting. We're in Mexico, in the past we used to do the big Two Comma Club cruise, but cruises are sketchy now so we decided to run an all exclusive resort. And it's actually really cool because it was interesting, and I don't know, there's a lot of variables so this may not be the only one, but I thought we would get more people to register for the cruise that was even pre... Sorry, pre COVID we did the cruise, we had about the same amount of people in our Mastermind group, and we had X amount of people that signed up for the actual cruise from that pool of people that were eligible to go. And then this year's post COVID so we did it here, and the group of potential people who can come is about the same, but we had three times as many people register for this. And so, I don't know, it could be just COVID and people want to travel and get away. That's definitely a possibility, but I think that more people want to go to an all inclusive resort than a cruise, which is the opposite of what I would've believed and thought, so anyway it's kind of cool. My one fear is on the cruise it was nice because everyone's jammed in this little boat and so more people got out and met, and I'm a little nervous that here people are going to hide in their rooms during the off sessions, but hopefully no. So anyway, I'll report back and let you know more how it's going. But so far we've just finished day number one and it was amazing, it was really, really cool. So I want to share with you guys all just a thought or an aha or a, I don't know, something that hopefully will be helpful for you all. I'm hoping that all of you guys, especially those who are... Obviously we cater towards two types of businesses, there's the expert business and the e-comm business. In fact, it's funny, here at the event it's broken in two groups, like here's our expert group, here's our e-comm group. And Alison Prince teaches a lot of the e-comm stuff, I teach the expert stuff and so it's split down the middle there as well. But we're both trying to do crossover where she's trying to get all the expert people to add physical products to their offers, I'm trying to get the e-comm people to add info products to their offers, so it's a blend back and forth. But the thing I want you guys to understand is just the power of, honestly, a singular framework. Each of you guys who are in a business, you have some type of framework, some kind of process or system or things that you take somebody through to get an end result. And one of my favorite people that I've seen do this is Brooke Castillo. Brooke is amazing entrepreneur, she's got a huge podcast, great podcast, great membership site, great coaching certification program. In fact, all of our one-on-one coaches for our Mastermind groups all come from her program, they're all certified through her. But she basically has created one really, really, really... How many reallys can I give her? 22 reallys. Really good framework, right? And her business is based around, honestly, it's one core framework. And she teaches this framework on her podcast, she talks about it in her emails, everywhere she's talking about this one framework. And then she has a membership site that's $300 a month that then teaches people how to use the framework, like how to use the framework in your life, if you're a coach, how to use it for other people, all sorts of stuff. I think that's $300 a month, and then she has a coaching certification program, it's $18,000 a year, I think, or I believe that's what it is. And there's where she helps you to master the framework where you can start teaching it and helping coach other people, and it's really cool. But that's her basic business, it's she has one framework that she talks about for free everywhere, and she's got a membership site $300 a month where she teaches you in depth how to use the framework and get live coaching from coaching students, stuff like that. And then on top of that she's got the certification where you can master the framework and use it as a tool in your own business. But her whole business, and her business is multiple, multiple eight figures, one of if not the biggest info product business that I'm aware of right now, which is really cool. But anyway, again, we come back and we look at that and look what she's doing and it's insanely successful. And so, as I was thinking about the Mastermind group we're in right now, and if you guys know my business, hopefully you do at this point, I have frameworks. And I don't have one, I have probably because I'm more obsessive compulsive, I don't know, OCD is high with me, but I have a lot of frameworks. And if you read DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, Traffic Secrets, those are my core frameworks all laid out. If you've gone through those books you understand my framework of the value ladder, and then my frameworks for each types of funnel inside the value ladder, and my frameworks for my scripts. And if you go to Expert Secrets you learn other frameworks, and you learn frameworks about how to start a movement, you learn frameworks about how to do your sales presentation or your perfect webinar, you learn frameworks on how to close, you learn those ones. And then Traffic Secrets, you learn Dream 100, you learn congregation, you frameworks on how to infiltrate any media platform and on and on. So those are my core marketing frameworks, there's a bunch of them. And there's other ones we teach that aren't necessarily inside the books, but the core ones are there. And so what's cool about it is, if you look at my business, I can go and I can for free teach and talk about any of my frameworks. I've done a hundred podcast interviews about the Dream 100 framework, I've done other ones about value ladder, I've done other ones about just any of the dozens of frameworks I've, not invented, don't know if that's the right word, the ones that we put together. I've done tons of training on every one of those things individually, but they all push back like, 'Hey, if you want to learn this in more detail, go get the books.' Then people read the books and they get all the frameworks, they get a good understanding of them and then from there their entire value ladder. Now, after you made a value ladder, everything else we do is just based on those core frameworks. It's not like I'm teaching more things, honestly, which is kind of cool. It's mastery, it's learning how to actually use these frameworks. And so if you go up our coaching ladder there's One Funnel Away, which is picking very specific... like we're going to show you guys one framework for creating product, one framework for a funnel, very specific type of funnel, one framework for traffic, so it's one framework across each thing. That's the OFA challenges, and then from there we send people up to our Two Comma Club X Coaching Program. And Two Comma Club X Coaching Program then is where we're picking a couple more frameworks. We're going deeper into it where we've got coaches, you've got one-on-one coaches, you've got group coaches, you've got a tribe of people who are working together. You've got all these people and it's really helping you to dial in, perfect this framework. And then after you get done with Two Comma Club X, which people stay in Two Comma Club X Coaching Program until they win a Two Comma Club X Board, they make a million dollars. And then something secret happens, funnel hacking live, nobody knows this except for the Two Comma Club winners. But when you win the Two Comma Club we invite you to a secret luncheon that's only for people who've won the Two Comma Club or above, and at that Two Comma Club luncheon I invite people to join my Inner Circle. And it's funny because a lot of people join the Inner Circle, and we found this especially people who had been in the Two Comma Club X Coaching Program and moved up to the Inner Circle. They're like, "What's the curriculum for Inner Circle?" I'm like, "There's no more curriculum, you guys have gone through these things..." The Inner Circle, then after my Inner Circle we've got our Category Kings, like the different levels here, it's still the same frameworks, we've already learned them. But now inside the Mastermind what's been cool is over the last 10 years I've been teaching this stuff, we've got now thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people using these frameworks in different places. So the Mastermind now becomes everybody else saying, "Okay, well, yeah, I did a challenge funnel, but this is what I did different. I tweaked this, I added this, I change this." And they're like, "Oh, well, my value ladder looks like this. And, oh, my thing looks like this." And it's everybody taking these core fundamental frameworks that we first laid out and then building on them and adding things, tweaking things, changing things. We had someone today who, same thing, they come through our training but then they figure out this new hook and this new way to do something, and then they built this huge Two Comma Club business doing that. And we had her come and present today and like, "Hey, here's what I'm doing." There's a lot of similarities but it was her twist, her take, and how she took the frameworks and evolved them and developed them further and they had new cool things. And then we have these national meetings where everyone's getting up and they're sharing. And right now there's people all around this resort here in Mexico in little meetup groups. And there's groups like everyone who's doing challenge funnels meet up and they're all sharing best practices. Like, "Oh, we did this and we added this little thing. We added this badge here and increased conversion by this. Oh, and we did this." Everyone's sharing things there. And then there's the high ticket group, and then there's another group, another group. But there's all these groups happening, pop up all around the resort right now of all the people that are in Mastermind groups, all just sharing like, "Hey, I took this core framework, but here's how I tweaked it, here's how I changed it. Here's how I applied it to my business, here's how I applied it to my industry. Here's how I did it." And so it's really fascinating watching it because the evolution of this was not like, "Russell, to go higher ticket you need more frameworks." No, no, it's master, it's application. It's sharing the tweaks, the changes, the evolution of the frameworks amongst those of the people that are out there in the trenches using them. And that's why this has been so fascinating. I wish I could sit in every one of these little breakout groups and just take notes of what everybody else is sharing because there's just so much gold that everybody's dropping. Anyway, I wanted to share that for a couple reasons. Number one, if in you're my value ladder this is where you're going, keep figuring these things out. So having success, get in the coaching program, get to the Two Comma Club, jump in the Inner Circle, and then come to these Masterminds where we can start taking this and network with... I think we have 600 people here on resort with us, which is cool. I think the resort holds 900 people and we've got 600. It's like more than half of the people here are Funnel Hackers, which has got to be awkward for all the people wondering why we have these similar t-shirts on, but that's what we do. And so, be part of that group and then start sharing with each other and it's just so fascinating. Funnel Hacking Live is a version of that, you come to Funnel Hacking Live and it's like all the speakers are people who for the most part grew up in our community, who learned the core frameworks, started using the ClickFunnels software and then they figured out their hooks, their tweaks, their way that they evolved the principles and got them to work for them and for their market. And so it's fun, everyone building upon each other and all off of this one common framework. So again, number one is, if you are in my world this is the path, this is where we're trying to take you. This is the experiences we want you to have with us here in Mexico, do these kind of things. And number two is, for your own business, understanding that's what the value ladder actually looks like, it's not more stuff, more stuff, more stuff. Again, I look at Brooke's business and it's one insanely good framework. And then it's just gone deep, and deep, and deep on that to the point where she's got one of if not the most successful info product businesses in the industry today, from one framework. So I want you guys to understand that because it's powerful, it's cool, it's exciting and hopefully it gets you as excited as well. So, with that said, thanks for listening and hopefully you'll be here with us in Mexico at the next Mastermind in Paradise, which will be coming in about a year from right now. All right, thanks so much and I will talk to you guys soon.

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For years I've been a #funnelhacker...  - I model designs...  - I model copy...  - I model ads...  - And I've become an expert at both FINDING and MODELING what works... But there are a LOT of ethical questions about *funnel hacking* (aka - modeling profitably, proven copy, offers, designs & funnels) This book by Austin Kleon was written for Artists - but it may as well have been written to Funnel Hackers everywhere. Take note. This is a book worth checking out!

When the pandemic hit the world, and the kids ended up going to virtual school, one dad decided the best thing for his kids would be to learn a language, learn an instrument, and then learn how to build a business. So the kids, Lydia and Liam, did exactly that!Putting their creativity to the test, they created coolestsocksintheroom.com and were on their way to an amazing business venture.Today you get to hear from the two amazing Funnel Hackers who are creating designs to put on socks so they can get them to the masses! Learn about their offers and the whole funnel design they have put together and you may just learn a thing or two that you can implement into your own funnel.And if you want to be the next success story, come check out the One Funnel Away Challenge! Just go to OneFunnelAway.com!

Surprisingly I didn't record one episode while at Funnel Hacking Live.  There was literally too much inspiration and not enough sleep.  My new Avatar takes shape.  And after 320 episodes I think I may have found my voice. Administrative: (See episode transcript below)Check out the Tools For A Good Life Summit here: Virtually and FOR FREE https://bit.ly/ToolsForAGoodLifeSummitStart podcasting!  These are the best mobile mic's for IOS and Android phones.  You can literally take them anywhere on the fly.Get the Shure MV88 mobile mic for IOS,  https://amzn.to/3z2NrIJGet the Shure MV88+ for  mobile mic for Android  https://amzn.to/3ly8SNjGet A Course In Miracles Here! https://amzn.to/3hoE7sAAccess my “Insiders Guide to Finding Peace” here: https://belove.media/peaceSee more resources at https://belove.media/resourcesEmail me: contact@belove.mediaFor social Media:      https://www.instagram.com/mrmischaz/https://www.facebook.com/MischaZvegintzovSubscribe and share to help spread the love for a better world!As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.Transcript: Mischa Z: 00:01 Funnel Hacking Live. Funnel Hacking Live 2021, amazingness part four. Part four. I believe one of the open, one of the loops I opened in one of the previous episodes of this little series of this Funnel Hacking Live 2021 series was that, um. I hadn't, I didn't record a single podcast episode while I was there. I was so busy. I was so busy with being immersed in, in all of the funnel Funnel Hacking Live goodness. Just amazing speaker after amazing speaker and then networking like mad and not purposely networking. It wasn't like I have an agenda of networking. Or though, you know, my thought is I'm going to go network, but really it's just, you don't even have to try to network. It's you're just meeting and hanging out with like-minded entrepreneurs. It was crazy. So it's not even like I have an agenda of networking.Mischa Z: 01:18 You're literally just hanging out with family, meeting new people, having fun, amazing conversations all over the place. This was my experience anyway. And uh, some people I'll probably have an opportunity to work with, uh, others, maybe just established new friends, um, but more will be revealed in that regard. So, um, anyhow, I didn't record one episode while I was there. I was convinced like each night I would do a recap of the day, the recap episode, what the speaker said, what it meant, you know what I learned. All these things. But I did not, oh my gosh, I was so tired at night. The jet lag three hour difference. And I, even though after the day's festivities, which were ending fairly late at night, you know, 7, 8, 9, something like that. So there's a ton going on, you know. I would have a meal with like-minded Funnel Hackers. Meeting, new people. You know, I'd get back to the room at 11 or midnight, Florida time. And, and then, uh, you know, we'd have to decompress. And I decompressed by, I watched the movie, um, 1917. Awesome. If you like thoughtful contemplate of war movies with not a ton of action.Speaker 2: 02:59 But it was a good one. Um, anyway, I would just watch, I was watching, took me a few, couple of days to watch that total diversion. I apologize. But again, I was concerned. I had the concern that is new, are new episodes going to materialize. And I figured, oh, on Sunday, you know, the convention's done. I'll be, I'll have the day I'll be flying back. I'll be inspired to, you know, record some content. Um, again, it didn't materialize. And I wasn't tripping. I just thought it very interesting. And I was like, huh, I am very surprised. I've got nothing to say, you know, is that it? Am I done?Speaker 2: 03:59 And of course, getting back to my normal meditation routine or whatever, the landing home, you know, good night's sleep. And just the inspiration has been crackling. I just can't even tell you. And honestly, the inspiration really started on the plane ride home. I was meditating, you know, not distracting myself with a ton of unnecessary content and working on... I actually was working on, um, that avatar Jim Edwards, avatar presentation. It's, it's like a five-hour course. Five, one hour. Five videos each an hour in length course where you dive into your avatar and who you want to serve. And, and, um, that's where all this new inspiration was coming from too. It was like, what was easy to write down? I was like, in that moment, I was like, oh my gosh, I've done all this work on this old avatar. This, this, well, the previous avatar, you know, this, this male character. This high performing male character, Tony, I labeled him and, uh, how I was going to serve him.Speaker 2: 05:33 But all this new inspiration was coming for... Through Jim Edwards exercise through this course. It's awesome. It really helps you dial in your perfect avatar. Makes you know, that's your perfect customer who you want to serve. And and it's super creative and it, you know, it helps you, uh, you know, dive into that...um... And he just gives great ways. He explains it. Gives you and then gives you homework exercises to, uh, you know, to write down. To write some stuff. To get it on paper, who your avatar is to refine it. And all the exercises where for this new person, this, this emerging Funnel Hacker. I'm like, it's the emerging Funnel Hacker that I can help. I mean, that's who I can help. And, and, and the way it came to me is we need to publish as a Funnel Hacker. Following Russell Brunson's Brunson's methodology, you're encouraged, you're instructed, not encouraged, instructed to pick your publishing platform podcast, um, blog blogging, or YouTube channel. And he encourages you to do it every day at a minimum he encourages you to pick a schedule and stick to that schedule. And hopefully that schedule is at least two to three days a week.Speaker 2: 07:13 And that is one thing that I have excelled at for a year coming up on a year. I started my podcast September mid September two weeks and September 15th, ish of 2020. And then when December came on, I did a challenge and have been a publishing challenge and have been podcasting every day since. And it really I'm going, I'm going to do a publishing challenge for sure. I'm going to create one because it's been so powerful. But so I'm at 320 episodes or some such thing. I'm going to have new podcasts. I got all this creative so much fun. Good, cool, amazing stuff is coming. Oh my God, I'm so excited to be dialed in on a new, on found all of a sudden, I feel like I've found my voice. I'm sorry. I do. There's a lot of information flowing out. So I I'm going to close the loop of, um, of, of, you know, not having any inspiration during the, uh, the conference during the Funnel Hacking Live 2021 to, to, uh, to record new episodes in the moment.Speaker 2: 08:38 And I clearly see why, but it's just coming out of me now. So I just, it's another cool, it's another cool awareness to have for any of you fledgling content, producers via podcast, YouTube channel, or, or, um, blogging trust that the daily content, if you want to do it daily, the content is within you, right? And as I've said, you can listen to a bunch of my previous episodes. I have so much content coming out of me, or I have been since I started, since I committed the publishing every day, that some days I can record multiple episodes. And so I, I have, you can record a series in one setting, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. So I had scheduled the week's episodes to be published during Funnel Hacking Live. So I had episodes publishing while I was at the conference. So I didn't even need to do anything. I just scheduled a week's worth of episodes to be published one each day. Crank them out. Had the...yeah...so Episodes will be, were being published to the Bitch Slap Podcast that you're listening to. I recently, um, while I was away. Okay. I believe that's the end of part four.Speaker 2: 10:12 Enjoy the day.

If you have run paid ads to get traffic to your funnel you would have heard this phrase "cost per acquisition". Quite fascinatingly almost a quarter of speakers at funnel hacking live event were referring to this. And, being the marketer I'm, I loved it and wanted to see how this principle can be applied for organic marketing and content marketing and that's when I came up with "Time Per Acquisition". Now what does that mean? that is what this episode talks about P.S: Wanna watch me implement what I teach? join me over the 21 days challenge I set myself against to generate additional revenue in my business. DM me "LIVE" on Instagram at @surya_upadhyayula to join today! Click here to send me the DM now: https://www.instagram.com/surya_upadhyayula/ Disclaimer Disclaimer, I'm not saying in any form or shape that you would make any revenue / results just by attending or even by implementing what I share in this live session!

Create A Lot Of Creatives. If you ever have run ads to your funnel, can be ads on Facebook, YouTube or even Google. You would have come across the situation where you started running ads and after some time the ad no longer converts, right? it happened to me as well. In today's episode I will share what you could do to have more conversions again and also how you can take that principle and apply it for the organic marketing side of your business, more specifically for the content marketing side. P.S: Wanna watch me implement what I teach? join me over the 21 days challenge I set myself against to generate additional revenue in my business. DM me "LIVE" on Instagram at @surya_upadhyayula to join today! Disclaimer Disclaimer, I'm not saying in any form or shape that you would make any revenue / results just by attending or even by implementing what I share in this live session!

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I have learned over the years that sometimes you need to take a different approach with your leads and it can be as easy as helping them out by making a call for them! I know this sounds crazy but anyone who has been on these calls knows how hard it is to get people to jump on the phone. There are many times when clients of mine come back from their webinars or scheduled appointments and they say "my leads didn't show up". and in todays episode I will share you the strategies I used to follow to get people to jump on the calls P.S: If you wanna work with me on a 1-1 basis, go to coachmesurya.com to schedule your free content gamepllan call today

I was watching Steve's YouTube videos, when I realized that he is not only publishing content to add value to marketplace, not just to educate the customers, there is also an another reason for it and now this makes total sense because we all know how valuable it can be for a business owner or an entrepreneur to publish content And the other reason is something that I'll be sharing with you in this episode P.s: Wanna work with me personally to implement what you have been listening? go to coachmesurya.com and schedule your free 15 minutes content game plan call with me today

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Enjoy part three of this classic episode series where Andrew Warner from Mixergy interviews Russell on the ClickFunnels startup story! Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com ClubHouseWithRussell.com ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. I hope you enjoyed episodes 1 and 2 of the interview with Andrew Warner at the Dry Bar Comedy Club where he was telling the Clickfunnels startup story. I hope you are enjoying this interview series so far, and I hope also this motivates you guys to go over to the mixergy podcast and subscribe to everything that Andrew does. Like I said, he is my favorite interviewer and I think that what he does is second to none. So I hope that you guys enjoy him as well, and go subscribe to the mixergy podcast. But with that said, I'm going to queue up the theme song, and when we come back we will start into part 3 of the Clickfunnels startup story interview. Andrew: I actually got, I did see, I don't know, I didn't see the video you mentioned, but I did see what it looked like. Here's one of the first versions. He compared it to Clickfunnels, he said, I mean to Lead Pages. He said, “Look at how Lead Pages has their stuff all the way on the left, all the controls.” Oh you can't see it. Oh, let me try it again, let me see if I can bring up the screen because this is just, it's just too good. Hang on a second. I'm just constantly amazed how you're able to draw people to you. So this is the article from Lead Pages, this is the first landing page from Clickfunnels, this is what he created before, this is what you guys did together. This is your editor and h e said, “Look, if you're on Lead Pages, their controls, their editor is all the way on the left and it's just moving the main content to the right, which is not looking right. And I prefer something that looks like this, with a hundred pixels on the left, a hundred pixels…” I go, who knows a hundred pixels, it's like you, what is this? Russell: Dylan is obsessed with that type of stuff, it's amazing. Andrew: Obsessed. And you draw people like that. You draw people like Dave, who is just phenomenal. Dave, the traffic and conversion event that he was just talking about, is that the one that you went to? Dave: The one after that. Andrew: The one after that. Okay, we'll come back to that in a second then. So this became your next version, you brought on a new partner, and then you did a webinar with this guy. Who is this guy? Russell: It's Mike Filsaime, one of my first friends online. It actually wasn't a webinar, it was a live event. He was doing a live event in San Diego and he was like, “You have to come and sell Clickfunnels.” And I was like, “Nobody's buying Clickfunnels.” We had a free trial and like, we couldn't give it away. It was crazy. And he's like, “Well, you're on this website, you're picture is there, you have to come and sell Clickfunnels, and I need you to sell it for at least $1000.” Because the way it works, if you speak at someone's event, you sell something, you split the money 50/50. So he's like, “It needs to be at least $1000.” And I was all bummed out. I didn't want to do it. And the event actually started, but they were streaming it live online, so I was actually sitting at our office in Boise, watching it as I'm putting together my slides to create Clickfunnels, and then flew out to the event. And then we had a booth, and I don't know if I told you this, we had a booth and Lead Pages had a booth right across the little hallway, skinny hallway. And Todd's wife was manning our booth and then Lead Pages was right there, and it was so funny because she was not shy at all about talking about Lead Pages. She's like, “Yeah, we're like Lead Pages except for way better. We can do this and this.” And the other guy is sitting there like, right in front of her as she's telling them everything. And it was..anyway, I digress. It was pretty funny. Andrew: By the way, she's still at it. I saw a video that you guys created, you were talking to her and she goes, “I will be Clickfunnels.” I go wait a minute, you still had that fire, okay. So you were at that event. Russell: So we're at the event and there's probably, I can't remember, 150-200 people maybe in the room. So I got the slides up and Dylan was there and he was like, when we got to the funnels he was going to demo the editor, so I did the whole thing, showed the presentation and we demo'd Clickfunnels and at the end of the thing I sold. And I've been good onstage, but by far, that was the first time in probably 8 years that I'd seen a table rush, where people are stepping over the things, jumping around, trying to get to the back to buy as fast as they could. Andrew: What did you say to get them to want to do that? Russell: We made a really, I mean we gave the presentation, and gave a really good offer at the end. They get a year of Clickfunnels for free, plus they get training, plus they were going to get all these other things for $1000. Andrew: It was $1000 training and a year of Clickfunnels for free, and then they become long term members. And it was also called, Funnel Hackers? Russell: Funnel Hacks, yeah. Andrew: Funnel Hacks. And that's the thing that became like… Russell: The culture. Andrew: This culture, this tribe. It wasn't just they were signing to learn from you, they were becoming funnel hackers. That's it. Russell: I mean, that wasn't planned though. It was like, I was trying to think about a sexy name for the presentation, so I'm like ah, Funnel Hacks. And somebody owned FunnelHacks.com, and I'm like, I'm still doing the presentation that way. And then later we made t-shirts that said, “Funnel Hackers” and then now we got 4 or 5 people have tattooed that to their bodies, it's really weird. But anyway, that's what happened. We did that and we sold it and I remember going to dinner that night with the guys who were there, and Todd and his wife and everything. And we were all excited because we made some money finally. But I was just like, “You guys don't understand, like I've spoken on a lot of stages, and I haven't seen a table rush like that.” And I remember back, there was a guy, he passed away a couple of years ago, his name was Fred Catona. And he was a radio guy. He was the guy who did the radio commercials for, do you guys remember, it's got the guy from Star Trek, what's his name? Audience member: Priceline. Russell: Priceline. He did the Priceline radio commercials and made that guy a billionaire. And he told me when we were doing the radio ads, “This is what's going to happen. We're going to test your ad and if it works, I'm going to call you on the phone and let you know you're rich. Because if it works, it means you're going to be rich.” So I remember going to dinner that night and I told the guys, “Just so you guys know, we're rich.” And they're like, “What do you mean? We made $150,000.” I'm like, “No, no, no. The way people responded to that, I've never seen that in my life. We're rich.” The response rate from that, I've never seen. Andrew: And then you went to webinar after webinar after webinar. Russell: On the flight home that day I'm texting everybody I've ever met. “I got a hot offer, this webinar crushed it. We just closed whatever percent of the room at Filsaime's event. Who wants to do it?” And we started filling up the calendar. Andrew: And the idea was, and you told me you did 2 to 3 some days. And the idea was, they would sell somebody on a course, and then their members would then hear how your software and your funnel hacking technique would help up what they just bought and then they would sign up. You're still excited, I can see it in your face. And then this thing took off. And then you started doing an event for your culture, your community, and this guy spoke, Tony Robbins. Russell: Oh yeah, there's Tony. Andrew: One of the first ones. Was he at the very first one? Russell: No, he came to the third one, was the first one we had him come to. Andrew: Yeah? Why do an event? Why do your own live event? Russell: So we've done events in the past. I know events are good, but I'd sworn off them because the last event we did, I think we sold 3 or 400 tickets and less than 100 people showed up and I was so embarrassed. I was like, “We'll never do events again.” And as soon as this, as soon as Clickfunnels launched and it was growing, everyone's like, “We want to do a meet up. We should do an event.” All the customers kept asking. And against my, I didn't really want to do it, but at the same time I was launching my book, and I had won a Ferrari in this affiliate contest so I was like, “What if we did an event and we had the Ferrari there and we gave it away and then we're…” we had other ideas for giving away other cars and it became this big, exciting thing that eventually turned into an event. And that was the first Funnel Hacking Live event in Vegas, and we had about 600 people at that one that showed up. And that's where it all kind of, it all started. Andrew: And it built how much, how many people are you up to now? Russell: Last year we had 3500 people and we're on track to have about 5000 at this year's event. Andrew: 5000? Yeah. Russell: Those aren't free tickets. Each ticket's $1000, so it's…. Andrew: So how much is that in total revenue? Russell: From the event? Andrew: Yeah. Russell: So ticket sales, last year was $3 ½ million, this year will be over $5. But at the event we sell coaching so last year we made $13 million in coaching sales at the event as well. Andrew: Wow, would you come up here for a second, Dave? Do you guys know Dave? Yeah, everyone knows Dave. You know what's amazing… {Audience catcalls} Andrew: That's amazing. Dave: I don't know who that is. Andrew: A catcall. I saw a video, you guys have this vlog now, a beautifully show vlog. You guys went to sales force's conference, you're looking at the booths and in the video, do you remember what you did as you saw the different booths? Dave: I think that one I went and asked what the prices for each of the booths were. Andrew: Yes, and then you multiplied. And he's like, you're not enjoying the event, you're calculating ahead, how much. “10,000 that's 100,000….” It's like wow, right. You do this all the time? Dave: Yeah. It's a lot of money in an event like that. Andrew: And you think, and if this was not your event, you would be doing the same calculation trying to figure out how much they brought in today. Wowee. Alright when you went to sales force did you calculate how much money they probably did from their event? Dave: We were doing that the whole time, absolutely. Andrew: You saw the building, you had to know… Dave: Oh my gosh. 61 stories. Andrew: Why? Why do you guys want to know that? Why does, how does that… I want to understand your drive as a company and I feel like this is a part of it. Figuring out how much money other people are making, using that for fuel somehow. Tell me. Dave: I think it actually goes back to Russell and his wrestling days. We had the experience of going to Chicago right after that, and super just exhausted. And it was one of those things where he literally landed, we walked down and we're underneath the tarmac and all the sudden Russell goes from just being totally exhausted to a massive state change. Where he's literally right back where he was with his dad and he and his dad are walking that same path to go to, I think it was Nationals. And I saw Dan Usher, who was doing the filming, capturing that moment and it's that type of a thing for Russell. Where all the sudden it's the dream, where as soon as you see it, it can then happen. And Russell's just been amazing at modeling, and again the whole idea as far as just going at a rapid, rapid speed. I mean it's “Ready, fire, aim.” Andrew: It's not you gawking at the sales force, what's the sales force event called? Dave: Dream Force. Andrew: Dream force. It's not you gawking at how well Sales Force's event, Dream Force is doing, it's not you having envy or just curiosity, it's you saying, it's possible. This is us. That's it. Dave: It's totally possible. Andrew: It's totally possible. We could get there. And when you're sizing up the building, you even found out how much the building cost. Who does that? Most people go, “Where's the bathroom?” How much does the building cost? Dave: There's a number. Andrew: It's you saying, “We could maybe have that.” Dave: We can have that, yeah. Andrew: Got it. And so let's go back a little bit. I asked you about Traffic and Conversion because the very first Traffic and Conversion conference you went to, you guys were nobodies. Nobody came and saw you. Dave: We were put out in North 40 pasture, way, way far away. Andrew: And some people would say, “One day I'll get there.” you told Russell, “Today we're going to get there.” Dave: Well Russell wanted, he was speaking and so whenever you're speaking at an event, it's important that you fill a room, like this. And there's nothing worse than having an event and having no one show up. It's just the worst feeling in the world. And so he's like, “All we need, I gotta find some way of getting people into the event. I wish we had like some girls who could just hand out t-shirts or do something.” And I was like, we're in San Diego, that's like my home town. Russell: Dave's like, “How many do you need?” That's all he said. Dave: It's just a number. It comes down to a number. How many do you want? So we ended up having, within an hour or so we had 5 girls there who were more than happy to dance around and give out t-shirts and fill the room. Andrew: and the room was full? Dave: Packed. Andrew: Packed. And why wouldn't you say, “One day, the next time we come to Traffic and Conversion, the tenth time we're going to do it.” Why did it have to be right there? Dave: It's always now.   Andrew: It's always now. Dave: It's always now. Andrew: It's always now. It's never going to be the next funnel, it's never going to be the next product launch. I'm going to do whatever we can right now, and the next one, and the next one. That's it. That's who you are. Dave: That's how it works. Andrew: And now you're a partner in the business. $83 million so far this year, you got a piece of that. Dave: Yes. Do i? Russell: Yeah. Dave: Just checking. Andrew: Do you get to take profits home now? Dave: We do. Andrew: You do, you personally do? Dave: Yes. Andrew: Are you a millionaire? Dave: Things are really good. Andrew: Millionaire good from Clickfunnels? Dave: yes. Andrew: Really? Dave: Yes. Andrew: Wow. And you're another one. I was driving and I said, “What was it about Russell that made you work for him? What was it?” and you said, “I've never seen anyone implement like him.” Give me an example of early days, something that he implemented…you know what, forget that, let's not go back to Russell. As a team, you guys have gotten really good at implementing. Give me an example of one thing that you're just stunned by, we did it, it came out of nowhere, we could have been distracted by funnel software, we could have distracted by the next book, we did this thing, what is it? Dave: You're here on this stage with JP, and this was what 6 weeks ago? Andrew: and this whole thing just came from an idea I heard. You use Voxer. Why do you use Voxer? Russell: I don't know. Andrew: Because you like to talk into it. Russell: Yeah, and you can fast forward, you can listen at 4x speed, you can forward the messages to people really easily, it's awesome. Andrew: and it's just train of thought, boom, here's what I think we're going to…No, it's not that. I heard it's, “I have a secret project…” Russell: “I'll tell you guys about it later.” And they all start freaking out. “Tell us now.” Andrew: “Secret project. I don't know what it, it's going to be exciting.” They don't know what it is, going to be excited. Russell: Do you know how it started, this one? I was cleaning my wrestling room listening to you, and you were, I don't know whose event it was, but you were at the campfire, it sounded like. And you were doing something like this and I was like, I want my own campfire chat to tell our story. And then I was like, “Dave, we should do it.” And now we're here. So thanks for coming to our campfire…. Dave: That's how it happens. Andrew: And that's exciting to this day. Alright, thank you. Give him a big round, thank you so much. You know what, I didn't mean for this to come onstage, but I'm glad that it is. This made you laugh when you accidentally saw it earlier too. Why is this making you laugh? What is it? Russell: So we're not shy about our competitors, even when they're our friends. So one of the companies we're crossing out is his. That's why it's funny. Andrew: It's one of my companies. That's Bot Academy there. It's also a company I invest in, that octopus is ManyChat, I've been a very big angel investor and supporter of theirs. I'm not at all insulted by that, I'm curious about it. You guys come across as such nice, happy-go-lucky guys. Dave asked me if I want water, I said “Dave I can't have you give me any more things. I feel uncomfortable, I'm a New Yorker. Punch me, please.” So he goes, “Okay, one more thing. I'm going to give you socks.” So he gave me socks. Really, but still, you have murder in your eyes sometimes. You're crossing out everybody. This is part of your culture, why? Russell: It comes back, for me its wrestling. When I was wrestling it was not, I don't know, there's different mentalities right. And I did a podcast on this one time and I think I offended some people, so I apologize in advance, but if you're in a band and everyone gets together and you play together and you harmonize, it's beautiful. When you're a wrestler you don't do that. You know, you walk in everyday and you're like, those are the two guys I have to beat to be varsity. And then after you do that, you walk in and you're like, “Okay who are the people I have to beat to be in the region champ, and then the state champ, and then the national champ?” So for me, my entire 15 years of my life, all my focus was like, who's the next person on the rung that I have to beat? And it's studying and learning about them and figuring their moves and figuring out what they're good at, what they're bad at so we can beat them. Then we beat them and go to the next thing, and next thing, and next thing. So it was never negative for me, it was competition. Half the guys were my friends and they were doing the same thing to me, we were doing the same thing to them. I come from a hyper competitive world where that's everything we do. And I feel bad now, because in business, a lot of people we compete against aren't competitive and I forget that sometimes, and some people don't appreciate it. But that's the drive. It's just like, who do we, if I don't have someone to, if there's not someone we're driving towards, there's not a point for me. Andrew: And even if they're, even if I was hurt, “I accept it, I'm sorry you're hurt, Andrew. I still care and love you. We're going to crush you.” That's still there. Russell: And I had someone, so obviously InfusionSoft was one of our people we were targeting for a long, long time and I had a call with Clayton and someone on his team asked me, “Why do you hate Infusion Soft so much?” I was like, “I don't, you don't understand. I don't hate, I love Infusion Soft. I'm grateful for it. I'm grateful for Lead Pages, I'm grateful for….” I told them, have you guys seen the Dark Knight, my favorite movie of all time? And it's the part where Batman and the Joker are there and Batman is like, asks the Joker, “Why are you trying to kill me?” And the Joker starts laughing and he's like, “I'm not trying to kill you. The reason I do this is because of you. If I didn't have you, there's no purpose behind it.” So for me it's like, if I don't have someone to compete against, why are we playing the game? So for me, that's why we're always looking… Andrew: It's not enough to say, it's not enough to just say “we're playing the game because we want to help the next entrepreneur, or the next person who's sick and needs to create…” no, it's not. Russell: That's a big part of it, but like, there's something… Andrew: Yeah, but it's not enough, it's gotta be both. Russell: My whole life there's, the competition is what drives me for sure. Andrew: And just like you're wrestling with someone, trying to beat them, but you don't hate them. You're not going to their house and break it down… Russell: Everyone we wrestled, we were friends afterwards. We were on the same Freestyle and Greco teams later in the season, but during, when we're competing, we're competing and everyone's going all at it. Andrew: Everyone's going all at it. That's an interesting way to end it. How much more time do we have? How much more time do we have? I'm going to keep going. Can I get you to come up here John, because I gotta get you to explain something to me? So I told you, I was online the other day, yeah give him a big round. I was online the other day, I don't even know what I clicked, I clicked something and then I saw that Russell's a great webinar person, everyone keeps telling me. Well, alright, I gotta find out how he does it. So I click over, “Alright, just give your email address and you can find out how..” Alright, I'll give my email address to find out how he became such a great webinar presenter. “Just give a credit card. It's only $4.95, so it comes in the mail.” It comes in the mail, that's pretty cool. Nothing comes in the mail anymore. Here's my credit card. It goes, “Alright, it's going to mail it out. Would you also like to learn how to use these slides? $400.” I go, no! I'm done. Russell: Welcome to the funnel. Andrew: Welcome to the funnel. I'm done. But I'm going to put in Evernote a link to this page so I don't lose it so I can come back. I swear. I did it. And this is my receipt for $4.95. Don't you ever feel like, we're beyond this? We're in the software space now, we're competing with Dropbox, we're not competing with Joe Schmoe and his ebook. And you're the guy who sold the, who bought the ad that got me. John: I know. Andrew: I asked you that. Do you ever feel a little embarrassed, “We're still in the info market space.”? John: No, I think it's the essence of what we do, of what Russell does. We love education. We love teaching people. I mean, the software is like the backend, but we're not software people. I mean, we sell software, but we teach people. All these people here and all the people at all of our events, they just want to learn how to do it better. Andrew: I don't believe it. John: Okay. Andrew: I believe in him. I don't believe in you. I believe that for you it's the numbers. Here's why I don't believe it. I'm looking in your eyes and you're like, “I'm giving the script. I'm good, I'm doing the script.” I see it in your eyes, but when I was talking to you earlier, no offense. This is why he does what he does. When I was talking to you earlier, you told me about the numbers, the conversion, how we get you in the sales funnel, how we actually can then modify…That's the exciting part. Don't be insulted by the fact that I said it. Know that we have marketers here, they're going to love you for being open about it. What's going on here? What's going on, keeping you in this space? John: Okay, from my perspective. Okay so, initially it was self liquidation on the front, which is what I was telling you. It was the fact that we were bootstrapped, we didn't have money to just like throw out there. We had to make sure we were earning enough money to cover our ads. And Russell had all the trust in the world in me, I don't know why he did, but he did. And he's just like, “Spend money, and try to make it self-liquidate.” I'm like, “Okay.” So we just had to spend money and hope that we got enough back to keep spending money. Andrew: And self-liquidate means buy an ad today and make sure that we make money from that ad right away and then software. John: Yeah. Andrew: And then you told, and then software's going to pay overtime, that's our legacy, that's our thing. And you told me software sucks for selling. Why? John: Software sucks, yeah. Andrew: Why? Everyone who's in info, everyone's who in education says, “I wish I was a software guy. Software is eating the world, they're getting all the risk back.” I walked through San Francisco; they think anyone who doesn't have software in their veins is a sucker. John: I asked the same thing to myself, you know. I was running ads, I'm like why can't I just run ads straight to the offer? Why do I have go to these info products? I want to get on the soft…. And then I was like, I feel like it's kind of like marriage. Like it's a big thing to say like, “You probably already built websites, but come over, drop everything you're doing and come over here and build websites over here on our thing.” And it's like, that's a hard pull. But “Hey, you want to build webinars? Here's a little thing for $5 to build webinars.” Now you're in our world, now we can talk to you, now you can trust us, now we can get you over there. Andrew: Got it. Okay, and if that's what it takes to get people in your world, you're going to accept it, you're not going to feel too good for that, you're just going to do it and grow it and grow it. John: Yeah. Andrew: What's your ad budget now? See now you're eyes are lighting up. Now I tapped into it. John: We spend about half a million a month. Andrew: half a million a month! John: Yeah. Don't tell the accountant. Andrew: Do you guys pay with a credit card? Do you have a lot of miles? John: Yeah, we do. In fact…. Andrew: You do! How many miles? John: In fact, the accountant came into my office the other day and said, “Next time you buy a ticket, use the miles.” Andrew: Are they with Delta, because I think you guys flew me out with Delta. John: Yeah, American Express is where we're spending all our money. Andrew: Wow. And you're a partner too? John: Yeah. Andrew: Wow, congratulations. John: Thank you. Andrew: I don't know you well enough to ask you if you're a millionaire, I'm just going to say congratulations. Give him a big round. John: Thank you. Andrew: Wow, you know what, I actually was going to ask the videographers to come up here. I wrote their names down, I got the whole thing and I realized I shouldn't interrupt them, because they're shooting video. But I asked them, why are you, they had this career where they were flying all over the world shooting videos for their YouTube channel. I'm sorry, I forgot their name, and I don't want to leave them out. Russell: Dan and Blake. Andrew: They were shooting YouTube videos, they were doing videos for other people. I said, “Why are you now giving it up and just working for Clickfunnels all the time? More importantly, why are you so excited about it?” And they said, “You know, it's the way that we work with Russell.” And I said, do you remember the first time that you invited them out to shoot something? What was it? Russell: It was the very first Funnel Hacking Live we ever had, and probably 2 weeks prior to that, one of our friends had an event and Dan had captured the footage, and he showed me the videos. “Did you check out my Ven Video?” I'm like, “Oh my gosh, that was amazing.” And I said “Who did it?” and he told me. So I emailed Dan and I was like, “Hey, can you come do that for Funnel Hacking Live?” And he's like, “What's Funnel Hacking Live?” So I kind of told him, and he's like, “Sure.” And it was like 2 weeks later and he's like, “What's the direction?” and I was like, “I don't know, just bring the magic man. Whatever you did there, do that here.” And that's kind of been his calling card since. He just comes and does stuff. Andrew: Bring the magic. He wants to have those words painted on the Toronto office you guys are starting. Literally, because he says you say that all the time. And the idea is, I want to understand how you hire. The idea is, “I'm going to find people who do good work, and I'm going to let them do it.” What happens if they wouldn't have done it your way? What happens if it would have gone a different direction? Russell: I see your question, and I'm not perfect. So I'm going to caveat that by, some of the guys on my team know that I'm kind of, especially on the design and funnel stuff, I'm more picky on that, because I'm so into that and I love it. But what I've found is when you hire amazing people like Todd for example, doing Clickfunnels. The times I tried to do Clickfunnels prior, build it was like, me and I'm telling developers, “here's what to do and how to do it.” And like there's always some loss in communication. With Todd, he's like, “I know exactly what I would build because I want this product too.” And then he just built it and he showed me stuff. And I'm like, “That's a good idea.” And he's like, “I did this too.” And I'm like, “That's a good idea.” And it's so much easier that way. So when you find the right people, it's not you giving them ideas, it's them coming to you with the ideas. And you're like, “that is a good idea. Go do it.” And it just makes, takes all the pressure off your back. So for us, and it's been fun because I look at, man, the last 15 years of all those different websites and the ups and the downs, the best people have always stuck. So we've got 15 years of getting the cream of the crop. It's kind of like, I'm a super hero nerd, but it's like the Avengers, at the end of, when Clickfunnels came about we had this Avenger team of people. And we're like, now we've put in our dues, now it's time to use all of our super powers to do this thing, and it all kind of came together. Andrew: Build it and build it up. And then as you were building it up, you then went to Sales Force. You guys invited me, you said, “Hey Andrew, we're in San Francisco, you're home town. Do you want to come out?” I said, “I'm going to be with the family.” And you said, “Good. Being with the family is better than hanging out with us.” But I still said, “What are you guys doing in San Francisco at Sales Force?” Because sales people don't need landing pages, yet you guys will probably find a way for them to need it. Then I saw this, this is the last video that I've got. There's no audio on it. I want you guys to look at their faces as they're looking up at these buildings, walking through the Sales Force office. Look, they're getting on the motorcycles in the lobby. They're looking all around like, “Oh gee.” Counting the buildings that are Sales Force labeled. Look at that! What are they doing? Not believing that this is even possible. And then just stopping and going, this is dream force. This is your dream. What did you get out of going to sales Force's event and seeing their office? Russell: Honestly, prior to Sales Force, I was kind of going through a weird funk in my business, because it was like, again there was the goals. So it was like, okay, we're going to do a million bucks, and then we did that. And then it's like, let's make 10 million a year. And then 50, and then this year we'll hit a hundred. And like, what's the next goal?  A billion, because a hundred million, 2 hundred million is not that big of a difference. And it was just kind of like, what's the point, what's the purpose? We've grown as big as any company that I know. And then last year, Dave and Ryan had gone out there and they were telling me stories like, “There's 170,000 businesses here.” And they were telling me all these things, and it sounded cool, but I didn't, and they were going crazy. You have to see this so you can believe it. But there's something about the energy about seeing something that makes it real. So this year I was like, I want to go and I want to see Benioff speak. I want to see the thing, the towers, I want to just understand it, because if I understand it, cool. Now we can reverse engineer and figure out how we can do it. So for me it was just like seeing it. I think in anything, any, as entrepreneurs too, if you're people believe that you can do it, you'll do it. If you believe you can lose weight, you'll lose 3eight. If you believe you can grow a company, and I don't feel like I believed that the next level was possible for us until I saw it. And then I was like, oh my gosh, this is not ridiculous. Benioff's not, none of these guys are any smarter than any of us. It's just like, they figured out the path. It was like, okay let's look at the path. And then let's look at it and now we can figure out our path. Andrew: And seeing it in person did that for you? Russell: Oh yeah. It makes it tangible, it makes it like, it's like your physiology feels it, versus reading a book about it or hearing about it. It's like you see it and you experience it, and it's like it's tangible. Andrew: I told you, I asked people before they came in here, “What are you looking for?” and a few of them frustrated me because they said, “I just wanted to see Russell. I just want to see the event.” I go, “Give me something I could ask a question about.” But I think they were looking for the same thing that you got out of there. And I know they got it. I'm going to ask them to come up here and ask some questions, and I want to know about the future of Clickfunnels, but first I've got to just acknowledge that, that we are here to just kind of pick up on that energy. That energy that got you to pick yourself back up when anyone else would have said, “I'm a failure of a husband, I can't do this.” Go back. The tension that came from failing and almost going to jail as you said, from failing and succeeding, and failing again. And still, that is inspiring to see. I want to give the whole Clickfunnels family a big round of applause, please everybody.

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After tons of questions about the difference between a 2 million dollar and a 40 million dollar a year company, now I'm going to show you behind the scenes. Hit me up on IG! @russellbrunson Text Me! 208-231-3797 Join my newsletter at marketingsecrets.com Also check out marketingsecrets.com/2ccl ---Transcript--- What's up everybody. This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets podcast. Today's episode I want to talk about obsessing over your average cart value. All right. So I've been having so much fun in business recently. A lot of good things are happening. Things I can't tell you about yet. Things that at funnel hacking live will become apparent. And by January 1st of next year, it will become, you guys will see the future. I've been there. It's amazing and I'm coming back and I'm going to show it to you guys. But anyway, I can't tell you all the details. But I can tell you the things I am obsessing about right now because they're exciting. And one of the questions that I got a lot, there's an episode I did five or six episodes ago where I talked about the difference between a $2 million a year company and a $40 million company. And I just talked about there's two businesses I know of that sell basically the same product. One's doing 2 million bucks a year and one's doing 40. And I talked about just thinking strategically different, but I didn't, excuse me, I didn't give all the details behind it for a couple of reasons. Number one is I'm trying to acquire the $40 million a year company and I'm under all sorts of NDAs and stuff. So I can't talk about it, but after the acquisition is done, I guarantee you I'll be like... Anyway, you know I'm not good at keeping secrets. I'm the worst. This web podcast is called Marketing Secrets. My books are all called... Whatever secrets I got I just give you all the secrets. Somebody asked me, "Russell, can you keep a secret?" I'm like, "No." I've got no ability to keep secrets. I'm just going to write a book about it or do a podcast. Anyway. So don't tell me your secrets, but I'm sure that I will share with you guys more as I'm able to. But anyway, this I can share though, is as I'm watching again, the difference between $2 million offer and a $40 million a year offer is obsession with one thing. Can you guess what it is? I told you the intro. So now you know, it's obsession with your average cart value, the ACV. So what's the average cart value? That is how much money on average a customer gives you when they come into your funnel. Right? So a good example, this is my books, right? So someone buys a book and they may pay $9.95 shipping handling for the hard cover .Com Secrets book, right? So they buy that. But it doesn't mean my average cart value is 10 bucks because from there they can, there's the order form bump and then upsell one, upsell two, there's all, there's the whole process we take people through, right? So as they go through this process, the average person, so for everyone who buys the book let's say we sell a thousand books and some people buy upsell one some buy upsell one and two, everyone's buying different things, but if you do the average of all of them, it means on average how much you make for every book buyer. So a good example is when we first launched the Traffic Secrets book, I remember the average cart value was $70. So for everyone who bought a book, we averaged $70 in collected revenue during the immediate funnel, the point of sale funnel, right? It's not talking about over the next 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. Because there's lifetime value customer there's always other metrics we look at, but for average cart value is how much money they make immediately, point of sale, while they're hanging out with you. Right? And so that's the number. Now we launched the book Funnel, obviously when you first launch it, it's like your most excited audience, right? Like all you guys were probably like, "I'm going to buy Russell's book." And you're like, "I'm going to buy all the upsells." And you did and I'm grateful for that. But the average cart value was amazing, it was like 70 bucks a book. And over time as you go to colder traffic, that'll usually taper down and maybe it ends at 35, 40 bucks average cart value. Right? But knowing that, "Hey, I can spend 40 bucks to sell a book and I'm still profitable." That's a big deal. Right? That's the reason why we're able to sell so many books is because I can spend $40 to sell a free book, whereas everyone else in the publishing world they're selling them on Amazon for 20 bucks, they can spend 20 bucks maybe, and that's about it. So I can spend twice as much to acquire a customer or more because I control the cart. Plus, again, after the cart's done, then there's the email sequence, all these other things that we monetize and so that customer becomes a lot more, worth a lot more to us over time. But the average cart value is the key, right? Especially in this game, there are obviously companies we compete against who have outside investors and funding and they'll go six. They'll go negative. So they'll spend $200 or a thousand dollars to get a customer and it takes them six months to get their money back. But for me, and for you guys who are Smart Funnel hackers, who understand this game, for the most part you should be able to break even in real time. Right? So you should, when you spend a hundred dollars on ads, you should make a hundred dollars, worst case scenario, right? Just because that's, we're, we all should be. The amateurs in this Funnel Hacker world, we should be better than the majority of businesses. Right? You should be able to break even at point of sale. And so that's the first thing, right? That's how we're able to grow with scale these businesses is that we could spend $40 to sell a free book and we still break even. And now everything on the backside of that is gravy. So hopefully that makes sense because I'm going to go a little deeper here now, but that's the first part. And I'm sorry, there's so many, I know for some of you guys who've been around me for a long time and you're like "Yeah, that's a no brainer." For somebody who's maybe newer, who might be like, "I don't understand how this works. I thought that was my business was my funnel?" And it's like, "Yeah, but that's the first funnel, right?" One of my first mentors, actually the first seminar I ever went to, I heard Mike Limon say, he said, "Amateurs focus on the front end." And I didn't know what he meant for years, but I was trying to, I was trying to make money on my front end funnel and what he was saying at the time, I remember he was saying he was spending $30 to give away a free DVD. And I was like, "How are you doing that?" But I didn't realize that people gave away the free DVD. They called him on the phone two weeks later, he sold them a 5,000 coaching package and he had this whole business model. And so he's able to go in the hole because he knew that 30 days later he was going to make money. Right? And so that's, amateurs folks on the front end we're Funnel Hackers, we're not amateurs. We're the ones who understand this game and so we can make really good funnels that are profit on front end and then we've got the backend on top of it. So that's why we're able to grow companies so quickly. Right? So anyway, I digress. The thing I want to ask you guys about today is obsession over average cart value. So what I typically do, and this is my bad habit is we get together, we launched the funnel, then at launch time we're split testing, we're tweaking, we're testing, we're trying to get the average cart value as high as we can. And then after two or three weeks, Russell gets bored, he goes on to the next offer and he leaves. Okay? And my friend, who we're purchasing his company that did $40 million in sales last year, I've watched him, he's got, I don't know, four or five little front end funnels that he focuses on. Actually for him, he doesn't have a back end, which is why we're acquiring them because ClickFunnels would be perfect backend, right? But he's making all his money just off the front end funnels. But his obsession is with the average cart value, right? How much can you make for every person that comes through the funnel? And right now, just to put it in perspective, I can't remember exact numbers, but his average cart value is something like $160. So it makes it $160 every single person who buys his front end thing, which is insane. It means he can spend $160 to sell one of his things, and it's things not a free plus shipping. There's, there's a cost in it and I'm not going to tell you the pricing yet, because I can't, but it's crazy. And as I've been talking to him, as we've been doing this negotiation and buying it, purchasing the company, he'll send me messages about things he's testing and he's still the same offer he's been writing for five or six years now, it's killing it. That I might, I'd be like, there's no way to make this better. He's like, "Show me the things they're doing." And they're not like, a lot of us do split test. Right? I try this headline versus headline this versus this. And that's great, but he's not just doing that. He's been testing so much at such a deep level, he's doing these big radical shifts, right? You show me this process of where when somebody comes in after X amount of seconds this thing pops up and then for a coupon they email in. And then he sends out this email sequence and he's split testing two or three different email sequences, see which one gets the highest take rate and on and on, on. All these things, you know? And that's his obsession, is this deep dive on average cart value, making it better and better and better, you know? And when he got this focus on funnels initially, the average cart value was $60 bucks. Right? Which is good. I would have been celebrating "Ooh, 60 bucks. Good to go." I think that would have been a break even at that point because they're spending about 60 bucks to break even but then he's obsessed with. Like, "Okay, we need another upsell. What's the down sell? How do we change this? How do we change this? How to tweak this? What's the email sequence? What's the post, the pre, the landing page? What are the, like he geeks out on all these pieces at such a deep level. I started realizing that that's my, one of my biggest problems on my side, is that I do some testing up front, it's good enough, we run it and then our ad team run it, and then it runs till it's not profitable anymore and then we pause it and come back three months later and try to run it again. Right? Whereas he just keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper. And so on my side, we started building out a team specifically just to do this. He's in of my sites inspired me, "Okay, if I'm making $40 average cart value in a book, what would the metrics look like if I get to $80? If I get to $80 average cart value that changes everything, right?" It's not a little tweak, I could spend an $80 to give away a free book. The metrics on that are insane. Right now I can sell millions of copies of book versus right now we're selling hundreds of thousands of copies of the book. Right? But it's that. But I had to figure that out. So I don't know how to do it yet, but it becomes the obsession. Right? I did a clubhouse, which is probably going to be on this podcast soon. I did a marketing CS podcasts or clubhouse and on that I asked people their biggest marketing secret and Perry Belcher dropped this bomb. You may have heard this, but he said the biggest thing he found, the biggest marketing secrets he has are now are adding premiums to things. And he specifically said that when Ryan Deiss launched his book, he was getting 3% conversion rate, and so he added a t-shirt with it. Now that adds premium and went from a 3% conversion to 11%. And he didn't talk about average cart value but come on now, you get three times as many customers to buy for the exact same ad spend? Your cart value could three X, right? You can go from a $40 average cart value to a $120 by adding a t-shirt to go with your free thing. Or something crazy like adding a premium. So I don't know if that's going to work or not. I have no idea, but guess what we're testing this week? We're going to test you buy a dotcom secrets book you get an I Build Funnels t-shirt right? Let's see how that works. Because if that increases cart value by whatever, that's insane, right? The three X of my cart value, now I can spend three times more money to get customers. And then he talks about, he was doing premiums not on the front end, but on the upsells and the down sells and things like that as well. It's like, what are the premiums that can be added that make people more likely to take the offers, which increases the average cart value?What's the email sequences, what's the actual offer? Could we make the offer better to offer to be more expensive? Does it need to be less expensive? There's just a million things you could test. But most of us are like, "Okay, I tested headline A, headline B and that's it. Right? Or we don't test at all but it's like, man, after you have a funnel that works, like my buddy here, he spends obsessively for four or five years now the same product that another one of my really, really good marketing friends does 2 million bucks a year on, he's doing 40, and the difference is obsession with cart value. Because he can outspend everybody else, 10 to one. Right? And so that's the question for you is how can you obsess about your average cart value? What things can you do? Can you build a team or a process? I used to have a mantra in our company back in the day, it was when Todd was not developing ClickFunnels for full-time, but he was doing more stuff on the marketing, he would come up with split test ideas and we tried to compete against each other all the time. It was really fun. And so our mantra at the time was like, how do we give ourselves a raise every day? And it's like, well, the way we do it is by split testing, right. Let's test this versus this versus this and keep testing different things. And we have a winner, right? You add a t-shirt premium offer let's say to your book funnel and all of a sudden it goes from a 3% to 11%, you just 30 x your money or more, that's, you just gave yourself a raise today. Right? So that was always the question is how do you give yourself a raise today? How do we give ourselves a raise today? What's the next thing? What's an idea? What could we do to drive the needle, make those changes. And so for you, that's what I want to post this in your mind, right? After you have a funnel that works, instead of doing what I do, moving on to the next funnel, or focusing on something different, come back and say, "Okay, here's my cart value. Every single day how do I increase the cart value? What can I do today? What can I trust today? What can I try today? What else can I do? How do I shift the offer? How do I position it from... What can I do to it to increase that cart value? And the more you start thinking about it, the more ideas will come, the more bigger highs you have, all these things we'll tweak and change based on that. So anyway, that's what I want to encourage us to do, is starting to obsess with the average cart value. ACV, average cart value, how much do you make for each customer that comes into your world? All right. With that said, I'm going to end this podcast because I'm getting into traffic and I don't want to wreck. So there you go. Anyway, I appreciate you guys listening. Hopefully you got some value from this episode and hopefully it starts a new obsession for you on the thing that could take your funnel from a $2 million a year to a $40 million a year thing. Obsession with the average cart value. Thanks again guys. And I'll talk to you soon.

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