Podcast appearances and mentions of ryan deiss

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! On today's episode, Ryan Deiss unpacks the full story behind his viral “retirement” post, a headline that unexpectedly ignited controversy, curiosity, and massive engagement. He shares the real reason behind DigitalMarketer's major pivot, the behind-the-scenes chaos of a misfired email campaign, and the strategic follow-through that turned a happy accident into one of their most successful promotions ever. If you want to learn how to harness viral attention and turn it into real revenue, this episode is a masterclass in doing exactly that.Highlights: “I'm retiring from digital marketing and taking my company down with me.”“It was a forcing function for me to finally stop doing what I always defaulted to.”“We're not training people anymore. We're training AI.”“The post was an accident. What happened after? That was strategy.”Timestamps: 00:00 From 1999 to Now: A Marketing Journey02:42 The Viral “Retirement” Post05:00 The Unexpected Reactions08:19 Why DigitalMarketer Had to Pivot12:41 Email Chaos Behind the Scenes15:00 Handling a Viral Moment in Real Time20:00 Lessons From the Comments Section24:06 What Ryan Would Do Differently Next Time7:32 The 77% Opt-in Rate Town Hall31:53 Retiring With a Final OfferCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a New Episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the world of mergers, acquisitions, and private equity. They share insider strategies for selling your business, from understanding platform vs. tuck-in acquisitions to negotiating multiples and avoiding common pitfalls. Whether you're a founder considering an exit, a business owner curious about private equity, or just looking to maximize your company's value, this conversation is packed with actionable insights..Highlights:"People don't buy services, they buy better versions of themselves.""You want to be the platform company, not the tuck-in acquisition.""Private equity is fishing to avoid a process, don't take the first offer.""The more you prove you can acquire and integrate, the higher your multiple."Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene06:05 Facilitators Appreciation and Round Table Rumble07:09 Discussion on Exits and Private Equity08:57 Understanding Private Equity Deals15:57 Negotiation Strategies and Mistakes to Avoid27:06 Preparing for a Successful Exit33:33 Maximizing Company Value for Acquisition37:37 Current Market Trends and Multiples41:27 Strategic Considerations for Selling Your Business46:09 Navigating Acquisition Offers and Due Diligence01:05:25 Connecting with Potential Buyers and Investors01:07:50 Introducing Deanna Rogers and Closing RemarksCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this conversation, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss break down one of their favorite business strategies: using partnerships to scale without extra capital or risk. If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or marketer looking to grow your business faster (and smarter), this episode is for you. Roland and Ryan reveal how to create strategic partnerships that can exponentially increase your reach, resources, and revenue without spending a dollar more on ads or infrastructure.Highlights:“If you can't write down the offer in a sentence, it's probably not going to work.”“The best partnerships solve a need for both sides.”“Speed to implementation is everything.”“You get further when you grow together.”Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:54 A Definition of Partnership Marketing04:40 The Difference Between Affiliate and Strategic Partnerships07:30 How to Identify the Right Partners10:45 Crafting a Compelling Partnership Offer15:10 The 9 Core Areas Where Partnerships Can Drive Growth21:03 Example: Scaling a Software Business Without Spending a Dime26:12 The Importance of Speed and Simplicity31:30 Avoiding the Most Common Pitfalls35:58 Final Advice for EntrepreneursCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive into a viral social media post about management strategies that sparked unexpected controversy. If you're an entrepreneur, business owner, or manager looking to understand how to handle viral content and leverage audience reactions, this episode is for you.Highlights:"Love me, hate me. Both are fine. Just pay attention in some way, shape or form.""The world is lacking people with a truly unique point of view who are willing to defend it.""If you're an entrepreneur, you are your company's best spokesperson.""Attention is what everyone wants."Timestamps:00:00 Introducing the Viral Post01:33 Ryan's Newsletter and Content Strategy03:43 Viral Reach and Initial Reactions06:12 Unpacking the Controversial Management Advice10:29 Strategies for Handling Online Criticism12:56 The Power of Standing by Your Unique Perspective17:42 Personal Reflections on Viral Content22:16 Marketing and Content Recycling Strategies27:16 Leveraging Attention and Audience Feedback35:24 Final Insights on Entrepreneurial CommunicationCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to another episode of How I Discovered My Gift with yours truly, David D. Simons. I am honored and delightedand my excited is excitedfor this interview with the Godfather of Marketing, Rich Schefren. Were talking real history here, folks. Rich is the renowned entrepreneur and business strategist who took Agora Financial from 220 million to 1.25 billion in just one year, invented the automated webinar, popularized the VSL, created the lead magnet concept, and was the very first business coach online. Thats rightwere talking about the guy who coached Russell Brunson, Mike Filsaime, Ryan Deiss, Todd Brown, Frank Kern, and so many more.In this conversation, well explore everything from Richs childhoodyes, that includes running with the mafia back in high schoolto how he pinpointed his unique gifts and turned them into unstoppable fuel for success. As Rich says, I wasnt really sure what my gifts were when I was younger but those early experiences set me up for who I am today.So, settle in, grab your favorite note-taking tool, and get ready for a deep dive into gift discovery, business wisdom, and the game-changing insights that propelled Rich to legendary status in the marketing world. Youre in for a treat!

Welcome to another episode of How I Discovered My Gift with yours truly, David D. Simons. I am honored and delightedand my excited is excitedfor this interview with the Godfather of Marketing, Rich Schefren. Were talking real history here, folks. Rich is the renowned entrepreneur and business strategist who took Agora Financial from 220 million to 1.25 billion in just one year, invented the automated webinar, popularized the VSL, created the lead magnet concept, and was the very first business coach online. Thats rightwere talking about the guy who coached Russell Brunson, Mike Filsaime, Ryan Deiss, Todd Brown, Frank Kern, and so many more.In this conversation, well explore everything from Richs childhoodyes, that includes running with the mafia back in high schoolto how he pinpointed his unique gifts and turned them into unstoppable fuel for success. As Rich says, I wasnt really sure what my gifts were when I was younger but those early experiences set me up for who I am today.So, settle in, grab your favorite note-taking tool, and get ready for a deep dive into gift discovery, business wisdom, and the game-changing insights that propelled Rich to legendary status in the marketing world. Youre in for a treat!

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Join Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss as they discuss tariffs as an opportunity, not a challenge, exploring how businesses can transform potential economic challenges into strategic opportunities. This episode provides a comprehensive guide to navigating trade complexities, offering practical strategies for entrepreneurs to adapt, innovate, and thrive in an uncertain global marketplace.Highlights:"Don't let a good crisis go to waste.""Friction creates opportunities.""This is your competitive moment.""Sometimes better terms are more valuable than better rates."Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:13 Personal Updates and Podcast Setup02:22 Initial Tariff Conversation Begins12:34 Impact on Digital Marketing Agencies15:12 Supply Chain Redundancy Challenges22:56 Tariff Engineering Strategies27:50 Lessons from Pandemic and Economic Changes30:40 Joint Ventures and Local Production33:27 Marketing Bundling Techniques41:12 Final Advice and Entrepreneurial MindsetCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

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Molly Pittman is a bit of a legend in the digital marketing space. Bartender turned marketing intern for Ryan Deiss, turned VP of Marketing for Digital Marketer, turned entrepreneur - Molly's story is an inspiring one. And she flat out knows her stuff!In this episode, we dig into some real gems. We go pretty deep on what's working now on Facebook, but we also talk about the benefits of building an in-house team vs. the benefits of an agency. We discuss entrepreneurial lessons and what life is like in Amsterdam (where Molly currently lives).Here's a look at what we cover:Why being fluid might be the most important entrepreneurial trait...and why it's important for digital marketersWhy curiosity and fascination are crucial in our current marketing landscapeWhat CBO is and how it's impacting Molly's Facebook ad campaigns and what you should do about itWhat the 3 facets of Facebook's new Quality Ranking are and how to optimize your adsHow low quality rankings can dramatically drive up costs or get your ads shut downPlus more

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss explore an innovative "micro ownership" concept that allows teams to bid on improving specific business metrics. The strategy aims to inject entrepreneurial spirit into organizations by giving teams the opportunity to take ownership of key performance indicators, with potential financial rewards tied to their success.Highlights:"We wish that our employees acted more like owners.""It's designed to create this result.""Identify three to five key metrics that directly impact profit.""How do we inject some entrepreneurial life into companies?"Timestamps:00:00 Introducing Micro Ownership03:07 Discussing the Founders' Board Member's Idea06:11 Employees Acting Like Owners07:26 Identifying Profit-Impacting Metrics10:15 Initial Thoughts and Potential Challenges12:20 Developing a Bidding Mechanism14:21 Bonus Distribution and Team Incentives17:47 Potential Consequences for Not Meeting Goals19:24 Maintaining Entrepreneurial Spirit in Growing CompaniesCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the concept of "high agency" - exploring what makes certain individuals stand out in business, how to identify and nurture high agency behavior, and why it matters for organizational success. The conversation ranges from personal anecdotes about challenging workplace norms to a strategic discussion about building innovative teams.Highlights:"The only unacceptable thing is, 'That's just the way it's always been done.'" "If you're butting heads with them because the status quo seems wrong to them, that's an opportunity, not a threat." "I want everybody to know the reason that we do something, the why behind it." "Most tests probably won't work better - that's the whole point of having a control." Timestamps:00:00 Introduction04:41 Defining "High Agency" Concept09:03 Elon Musk as a High Agency Example13:01 The Importance of Good Judgment18:17 Personal Work Histories and Agency22:23 Creating Environments That Foster Agency28:50 Can High Agency Be Taught?32:48 Balancing Testing and Control in Organizations35:45 ConclusionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch with Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss! In this episode, Ryan shares his time blocking strategy, which includes dedicated time for strategy, connecting with team members, deep work, and recovery. They discuss the pros and cons of time blocking and explore alternative approaches like "variable time blocking." This episode is a must-watch for all entrepreneurs.Highlights:"Time blocking is telling your time where to go instead of wondering where it went." "If every hour of every day is blocked in, that's usually a sign that you're probably micromanaging, that you're probably doing too much of the work that your team should be doing." "What gets measured, gets managed." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction02:48 - Explanation of time blocking05:00 - Ryan's strategic time block08:10 - Ryan's team member connection time block11:18 - Ryan's deep work time block14:32 - Roland's perspective on time blocking20:00 - Ryan's flexibility with time blocks22:13 - Suggestions for additional time blocks 25:00 - Roland's approach to becoming a more interesting person29:44 - Importance of maintaining business relationships32:52 - The need for a system to manage your timeCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss strategies for managing overwhelm and maintaining high agency during challenging times, drawing from their personal experiences with issues like a moth infestation, car accidents, and the impact of external factors like tariffs and interest rates on their businesses.Highlights:"Overwhelm is not an acceptable state. I am the agent of change, and I am in control of making this happen." "There are two types of people in this world: those who believe the world happens to them, and those who believe they happen to the world." "Overwhelm is a state of hopelessness, and the solution to it is, hopelessness is not an option." "Don't share this episode with somebody if they're in the midst of this, do go to them. Throw an arm around them and walk within this framework to help them." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction02:46 - The importance of maintaining high agency during challenging times11:38 - Ryan's approach to helping people through difficult situations15:45 - The value of creating an inventory of overwhelming tasks22:06 - The importance of prioritizing and sequencing tasks25:28 - The importance of actively seeking to confirm the impossibility of solutions30:00 - The value of having a supportive partner or peer to navigate through challenges34:02 - The choice to be someone who "happens to the world" rather than someone the world "happens to"37:22 - The importance of providing support and not just offering solutionsMentioned in this episode:Get Roland's Training on Acquiring Businesses!Discover The EXACT Strategy Roland Has Used To Found, Acquire, Scale And Sell Over Two Dozen Businesses With Sales Ranging From $3 Million To Just Under $4 Billion! EPIC Training

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier dive deep into the power of user-generated content (UGC) and how it can transform your marketing efforts. They share their own experiences and strategies for capturing and leveraging compelling customer stories to build brand credibility, drive sales, and foster word-of-mouth marketing.Highlights:"The more people who are talking about you, the better it gets. And this is so mouth at scale, right? And this is exactly it is engineered word of mouth at scale.""Measuring it is big. Incentivizing it is, you know, is important, but if you don't have any right now, yep, go back and tap the list that you have asked them.""The key is just to go out there and start generating them. You'll come up with lots of ways to use it. Once you have it.""Every other marketing channel gets worse at scale. It gets more expensive. It converts less as you widen the top of the funnel."Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction04:18 - The Overlooked Potential of User-Generated Content08:50 - Applying UGC Across Industries12:41 - Timing and Nature of the Ask16:50 - Shifting the Burden with Small Asks20:06 - Tools and Techniques for Capturing Customer Stories22:05 - Overcoming Challenges in Implementation28:23 - Using Customer Stories in Marketing and Sales41:01 - The Power of Word-of-Mouth MarketingCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss the concept of "drift" - the insidious ways in which we can unconsciously veer off course from our goals and aspirations. They explore three types of drift: financial drift, strategic drift, and vision drift, and provide insights on how to consciously shift towards your desired outcomes rather than passively drifting. The conversation covers the importance of habits, the costs and investments required to achieve your goals, and the difference between shifting and drifting.Highlights:"What gets measured gets managed.""If I can only work one hour today, what's the one thing I would do?""The only remedy that I've ever had goes back to the habits. Am I at least behaving like someone who has those things that I want?""I'm going to quit on a good day, and I'm going to quit after I've been trying it for a while."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:22 - The pros and cons of working from home vs. in an office05:00 - National Quitter's Day10:00 - The impact of the holiday break on getting back into the swing of things13:24 - The concept of "drift" and its three deadly forms: financial, strategic, and vision drift18:27 - The "upper limit problem" and self-imposed limits on success23:44 - The importance of habits and their role in achieving your goals30:00 - Investing in your vision37:03 - Examples of consciously shifting away from goals44:48 - The distinction between shift and driftCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss Elon Musk's unique approach to problem-solving, where he reportedly solves his companies' biggest problems in a matter of weeks. They analyze the pros and cons of Musk's leadership style, including his willingness to make tough decisions and the potential impact on employees. The hosts also explore whether this approach can be replicated by other business leaders.Highlights:"He just came in there and went just ape, you know, and kind of gutted everybody who was essentially middle management.""The fundamental job, the single most important job that any CEO has, is determining what is the company's right next thing.""I do love the idea of saying, like, we are going to solve this problem in weeks, to say that every single thing that is our biggest problem can always be solved in a singular week.""If you're a leader, and if you decide that you're going to take on the role of solving a particular problem in your team, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, because, frankly, your people probably are above full capacity already."Timestamps:00:00 - Elon Musk's Approach to Problem-Solving01:20 - Musk's Ability to Solve Problems Quickly03:08 - Identifying the Real Problem07:03 - Feasibility of Musk's Approach09:01 -Downsides of Musk's "Demon Mode"12:38 - The CEO's Role in Determining the Right Next Thing13:40 - Shortening the Unit of Measurement15:00 - Empowering Middle Management20:00 - Communicating the Problem-Solving Approach26:35 - The Sustainability of Elon Musk's ApproachCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Pat Mancuso is the CEO of Mancuso Consulting Group and a highly recognized thought leader dedicated to helping CEOs, business owners, and entrepreneurs maximize their potential through coaching and consulting. Having spent over 30 years working with company owners, leaders, and sales teams, Pat has over 25,000 hours of coaching and consulting experience. As a serial entrepreneur who has launched multiple successful companies, Pat understands how to sustainably scale a business. He helps businesses improve their leadership and performance through a proprietary system, RSTMM® — Recruit, Select, Train, Manage, and Motivate, which enables companies to select, train, manage, and motivate the right people in the right positions.  In this episode… Many entrepreneurs launch their businesses with the end goal of creating wealth and gaining financial freedom. Generating wealth from your business requires strategic planning and calculated operational management. What strategies can you leverage to propel yourself and your business to freedom? Five business builders in various disciplines have created proprietary methods for scaling your company to the next level. B2B podcaster Dr. Jeremy Weisz maintains that by creating a comprehensive referral partner list, reaching out to them, and producing a podcast and other content with them, you can generate substantial ROI. When requesting capital or a business loan, Marc Cove suggests building prior relationships with bankers so you can remain top of mind, while Ryan Deiss highlights setting aside funds to pay taxes and other expenses to maintain long-term sustainability. Business consultant Pat Mancuso emphasizes the importance of conducting due diligence on your future business partners, ensuring skill compatibility and goal alignment. Real estate professional Chris Prefontaine says that the real estate market is ripe for investing, so he recommends developing strategies that can adapt to a changing market. In this special episode of Destination Business Freedom, Pat Mancuso reflects on his most notable podcast episodes. Featuring memorable guests like Ryan Deiss and Chris Prefontaine, these professionals delve into cash flow management, navigating relationships with bankers and business partners, and preparing your business for market fluctuations.

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier discuss a recent article about a CEO who overhauled his company's budgeting process, moving from annual to quarterly cycles and reorganizing teams every 90 days. They explore how this approach could be applied to smaller businesses and share insights from their own "scalable operating system" philosophy.Highlights:"Budgets represent the worst of corporate bureaucracy.""The annual plan is the worst unit of measurement that there is.""Every 90 days, people can flow between teams, money can flow between teams, and you're working on the most important thing for the next 90 days.""The organizational structure is just whatever that structure needs to be to support the goals of the company today."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction05:00 - Comparing the hosts' existing planning process to the quarterly approach08:05 - Pros and cons of quarterly comprehensive company reorganization 12:41 - How a quarterly team-based approach could work for smaller companies15:00 - Determining who should decide the team composition and how20:00 - Outlining the roles of the project lead, core team, and support team25:00 - Discussing the project lead's authority to reprioritize team members27:10 - Identifying the different team categories: core, support, and stakeholders29:31 - Explaining the role of stakeholders in the project review process31:02 - Final thoughtsCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

This episode is from the vault! In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I interviewed Ryan Deiss, a serial entrepreneur, author, and the founder of digitalmarketer.com. Our discussion begins with his latest book, "Get Scalable: The Operating System Your Business Needs to Run and Scale Without You." and pivots to invaluable insights on breaking free from the Founder's Curse and unlocking business value beyond yourself. Key Takeaways Embark on a transformative journey with Ryan Deiss in this Duct Tape Marketing Podcast episode, where he unveils strategies unlock scalable business growth, gain insights into the power of value engines, strategic rhythms, and high-output teams. Learn the art of overcoming founder indispensability, mapping value creation flows, and implementing a meeting rhythm that actually works. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, Ryan's actionable insights will empower you to build a thriving business that stands the test of time. More About Ryan Deiss: Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/ryandeiss/ Visit Scalable.co - scalable.co/ Get a copy of Get Scalable - amazon.com/Get-Scalable-Operating-Business-Without/dp/B0CC46VY9R Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us know what you loved most about the episode. Struggling with strategy? Unlock your free AI-powered prompts now and start building a winning strategy today!

In this latest episode of Juggling Life: Chaos, Curiosity, and Creating a Legacy, I open up about the rollercoaster of managing family life, love, and business. I dive into the biggest challenge I've faced in business: scaling. From hitting seven figures with Prosperity Movement to realizing I was a bottleneck in my own company, I share the lessons I've learned and the changes we're making to grow smarter, not harder. I also talk about how Ryan Deiss's book Get Scalable gave me a new perspective on what it takes to build systems that run without me. This is about learning from the hard stuff and creating something sustainable. If you're curious about the journey to scaling or looking for insights to level up your own business, this episode is for you! https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/zach-schuenke/episodes/Juggling-Life-Chaos--Curiosity--and-Creating-a-Legacy-e2qompc

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss the process of setting and achieving ambitious 3-year business goals. They explore overcoming limiting beliefs, building scalable operating systems, and practical strategies for exponential growth. This conversation includes insights into setting audacious targets and evaluating realistic paths to success.Highlights:"Three years is the sweet spot for meaningful but predictable growth.""Pessimists look smart, but optimists get rich.""Audacious goals push you beyond limiting beliefs.""Optionality wins wars and business."Timestamps:00:00 The Power of 3-Year Targets: Why 3 years is ideal for entrepreneurial companies.05:39 Challenging limiting beliefs in business growth.09:40 How internal barriers limit strategic thinking.14:48 Defining what needs to be true for success.20:53 Assessing existing offerings and market positioning.25:45 The importance of targeting your "Goldilocks" client.29:31 Steps to refine realistic paths to growth.33:45 Comparing solutions like raising capital or partnerships.39:06 Streamlining services for focused high-value growth.46:34 Lessons in thinking bigger and maintaining optionality.CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss share insights on the challenges faced during the acquisition and management of the Traffic and Conversion Summit. They discuss the importance of understanding community dynamics versus content value, the pitfalls of corporate decision-making, and how these factors contributed to the event's struggles.Highlights:"If you're going to do acquisitions, you need to be really clear on exactly what it is that you're buying.""The hardest thing in the world to do is to create a place, but you can lose that way faster than it takes to build.""You cannot let bean counters make business decisions." "The consulting firm that advised them not to buy Digital Marketer gave some of the worst advice they probably ever paid for."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:54 - Community vs. Content08:18 - Pre-Pandemic Sales Struggles10:00 - Financial Implications of the Pandemic12:35 - Lessons Learned from the Deal15:30 - Importance of Community Involvement17:00 - Consequences of Poor Marketing Decisions20:15 - The Role of Digital Marketers22:40 - Strategic Partnerships and Growth Opportunities25:00 - Reflections on Corporate Culture28:15 - The Future of Events Post-Pandemic30:40 - Closing Thoughts on Acquisitions37:22 - Episode ConclusionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss cover the story of Traffic & Conversion Summit (TNC), detailing its inception, growth, and eventual sale to Clarion Events. They share personal anecdotes from the journey, discuss strategic decisions that led to the event's success, and reveal the complexities of negotiating a sale. This episode provides a unique look at the behind-the-scenes efforts that transformed a simple event into a major business asset.Highlights:"Our goal is not going to be to make a lot of money. Our goal is going to be to have everybody leave saying, Wow, that was the best event I've ever been to.""It felt like it was getting big and scary. I would have these recurring nightmares of something going wrong at this event.""The reality is, most events suck. They're just a pitch fest.""We controlled the programming of the event. So who's going to be on stage, which meant we still got the benefit of the platform of the event for our other brands."Timestamps:00:00 - Elevating the Event Vision02:31 - Introduction to Traffic and Conversion Summit05:23 - Evolution and Growth of the Event07:52 - Increasing Production Value and Sponsorship Revenue11:59 - Sale of the Event to Clarion Events31:51 - Post-Sale Challenges and Pandemic Impact35:10 - Reasons for the Event's DeclineCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the intricacies of search marketing versus paid media, exploring how marketing strategies have evolved with technological advancements. They discuss the unpredictability of Google updates, the shift towards social platforms by younger demographics, and the importance of adopting a multi-channel approach in today's digital landscape. Tune in as they share insights on the most effective channels for reaching an audience and why owned media might be more crucial than ever.Highlights:"If you're starting from scratch with marketing, it's not search marketing I'd double down on." "The new model for organic reach should include connection, authenticity, and a surround sound strategy across multiple platforms.""People are looking for authenticity and consistency in the personalities they follow, not just content." "As marketing evolves, the channels that once dominated are being overtaken by more agile, targeted, and engaging mediums." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: The Current State of Search Marketing 02:52 - The Inefficacy of Traditional Search for Nationwide Businesses 05:03 - Shifting Priorities: Paid Media vs. Organic Search 08:24 - The Impact of AI and Generational Changes on Search Behavior 11:05 - The Importance of Multi-Channel Marketing Strategies 14:00 - Connection and Authenticity in Content Marketing 17:00 - Discussing Owned Media and Its Advantages Over Organic Search 20:21 - User Experience and the Shift Away from Traditional Search 23:18 - Reddit as an Emerging Search Platform 26:28 - The Role of Specialized Sites and Social Groups in Niche Searches 27:24 - Conclusion: Future Outlook on Search MarketingCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

F You'll Learn [02:01] The Team Sandtrap + Cycle of Suck [12:20] Why You Might Have the Wrong Team [20:54] Building the Business Around You [29:40] How to Escape the Cycle and Level Up Tweetables “If your business isn't healthy and growing, it's dying.” “Here's the reality: it takes 10 people to clone yourself in a business.” “How did you build it the wrong way? You built it around what you thought the business needed, and you didn't build it around what you needed.” “If you have capacity less than a hundred doors, then the odds of you getting another a hundred doors in the near future is slim than none.” Resources DoorGrow and Scale Mastermind DoorGrow Academy DoorGrow on YouTube DoorGrowClub DoorGrowLive TalkRoute Referral Link Transcript [00:00:00] Healthy business owners have healthy businesses have healthy team members and feel very well supported. And the only reason you're not there is you just don't know yet what healthy business owners know.  [00:00:11] Welcome DoorGrow property managers to the DoorGrow show. If you are a property management entrepreneur that wants to add doors, make a difference, increase revenue, help others, impact lives, and you are interested in growing in business and life, and you're open to doing things a bit differently, then you are a DoorGrow property manager. DoorGrow property managers love the opportunities, daily variety, unique challenges, and freedom that property management brings. [00:00:38] Many in real estate think you're crazy for doing it. You think they're crazy for not because you realize that property management is the ultimate, high trust gateway to real estate deals, relationships, and residual income. At DoorGrow, we are on a mission to transform property management business owners and their businesses. [00:00:56] We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS. Build awareness, change perception, expand the market, and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. I'm your host, Jason Hull, the ceo and founder of DoorGrow. Now, let's get into the show. All right, so before we get started I wanted to just mention our sponsor Vendoroo. We've seen some great results with these guys. [00:01:22] So if you're tired of constant stress and hassle of maintenance coordination, meet Vendoroo, your AI driven in house maintenance expert that handles work orders from start to finish, triaging, troubleshooting vendor selection and coordination. Built by property managers. for property managers to provide cost effective and accountable maintenance operations where every dollar is accounted for and every task is handled with unmatched reliability. [00:01:47] Vendoroo takes care of the details so you can focus on growth. Schedule a demo today at Vendoroo.ai/DoorGrow and experience maintenance done right. All right, so let's get into the show. So what has been going on in the DoorGrow universe or in DoorGrow world? So, one, we are raising our rates, our fees, because we are taking better and better care of our clients and getting them better and better results. [00:02:17] And so this is something that we coach clients on all the time. Are you taking your business to another level? Are you confident in raising your fees? Or have you kept them small or competitive, or even worse, low in your market? Are you striving to provide and deliver more value? Are you taking things to that next level in your business? [00:02:40] We meet regularly with business owners in this industry. So in the last week or two, I've met with several businesses that are stuck in what I call the second sand trap. This is where maybe they were a client a long time ago in the past. We helped them figure out how to get growth. They've gotten to maybe the 200, maybe somewhere 200- 300 door range, maybe even up into the 400 doors range. [00:03:05] And they are now experiencing the second sand trap of constraint. And so some experience this even earlier. I have had people come to us, people that have joined our program recently, that are having these second sand trap problems around just over a hundred doors, like 150. And they're already in this painful spot. [00:03:26] And there's a few reasons for this. One, they could be caught in the cycle of suck, which means they've taken on too many shitty clients that are You know, too high of operational costs. And so they have too many difficult properties to be dealing with which makes the tenants more difficult, and so they've kind of created this mess in which their entire portfolio that they're managing and dealing with are a lot more difficult than most of my clients' situations. [00:03:53] And so their operational costs are really high and they're making a lot less money because of that, their profit is down. And then what that means is it's a lot more difficult to deliver customer service and be effective. So I have a partner with me today, which is a dog we're fostering named Hans. [00:04:12] And he is trying to chew a toy right at my feet. So what's up Hans. And if you haven't seen our previous dog episode that we did go to DoorGrow. com Click on "Dogs" up at the top. We've got a little dog emoji on our website. Check that out and learn a little bit about Sarah and my passion in helping dogs. And this is to be fair, mostly Sarah's passion. I like dogs definitely more than cats. I like dogs, but Sarah loves dogs. She really loves dogs. [00:04:40] And so this is more her thing. So check that out. And that lets, you know, a little peek into the our reality here in our home with DoorGrow. So you can also check out our funny videos at the top right there as well. That'll give you a perspective on how goofy we are and we try to incorporate our dogs in these videos. [00:04:58] Hans made it into one of our recent ones that will be released. You'll see it. So this second sand trap, the challenge here at the second sand trap is that these property managers have figured out how to grow. They know they could probably double in size. Most of you that are at the stage, you know, you could probably double in size door wise. [00:05:16] You could easily go get more doors. You could attract more owners if you felt comfortable. So here's a question you need to ask yourself. This is something I love asking people that are at the stage so I can see how bad is it? How bad is the problem? So some of them get at this stage, business owners get really burnt out, like really stressed. [00:05:38] We're talking like I had a lady say to me, "I fucking hate my business. Can I be real with you?" That's what she said. "I fucking hate my business." And she's having a ton of health issues and stress. I don't know if it's all related directly to this, but stress can eat you alive, right? Basically every health situation gets worse if there's high stress. And so she's dealing with a whole mess of stuff, right? And this is a challenge. This is a challenge in business. We deal with a lot of stress as business owners, but property management can be especially stressful. You're dealing with sometimes really upset angry people and a lot of that stress doesn't have to exist If you're not in that cycle of suck the other challenge at this stage besides maybe being caught in the cycle of suck Is not being paid well enough. [00:06:28] And so Not only is your operational costs high because of the cycle of suck, but then also your pricing may not be optimized or very effective. You may not have a premium offering for premium buyers that may exist in your portfolio. And so they just go with your cheaper option, which is the only option that you have. [00:06:45] And then there's also this weird race to the bottom in terms of price where everybody's priced like similarly, like 10 percent in most markets in higher rent markets, maybe like 8%. And then in some markets, it's like really grotesque with flat fee, you know, property management and stuff like this. [00:07:01] And so the challenge then there's kind of this race to the bottom in terms of pricing. And so you may not be getting paid as much as well. And so sometimes if you can just increase the amount of money that you're bringing in and decrease the amount of operational costs in the business, you could easily double your profit margins. [00:07:22] We've had clients go from 25 percent margin, which is good to 50 percent profit margin by getting some pieces dialed in. Now, the three biggest profit levers we find at this stage are people planning and process. Why? Because they're all connected to the biggest expense, which is. People, right? Which is staff and whatnot. [00:07:43] So we need a really good people system, which means a hiring system and a really good existing team so that we can always maintain really good personnel and team members. Then we have a healthy team that buy into our culture, that have the skill and intelligence to do the job and have the personality type that is a fit for the role. [00:08:01] I call those the three fits culture, personality, and skill. You need all three in order to be a good team member. If you have team members right now that don't match all three, you are spending too much money on this person and you're getting too little output. If you're caught in the cycle of suck, you are spending too much money on all of your people and getting too little output. [00:08:22] If you don't have a good hiring system, you can't replace, confidently, the people on your team to get good people. And so you don't have a system or mechanism to do this. And so most businesses at this stage usually spend five to 10 years playing Russian roulette to get a decent team so they can finally break 600 doors. [00:08:42] A lot of them by that time, even before they hit that, just give up, they sell the business, they exit. And so the time can be collapsed on this significantly. So here's the question that I ask. I asked people that are caught in the second sand trap, "what is your current capacity for adding more doors on that you believe right now? How many more doors do you think you can handle with your existing team before things start to get uncomfortable, maybe fall apart, or maybe break?" A healthy response would be, "we could double in size," which means they are not concerned like, "we could easily add another 200 doors, and it doesn't break. It's not an issue." Okay response would maybe be "I think we could add another hundred." That means they're already experiencing some challenges and constraints. They think they could squeeze to another hundred units or so and there might be an issue. Really bad is if you're like, "we could probably handle 50 more units and then I would have to change something dramatically, get a key team member, change something significant or that would really max out my stress." [00:09:42] So if the capacity is 50 doors right now, if your future capacity that you can envision is 50 doors or less right now, it's even worse, like 25 units or something like that, you are already in a dangerous and uncomfortable spot. You need to get out of that dangerous, uncomfortable spot. If you have capacity less than a hundred doors, then the odds of you getting another a hundred doors in the near future is slim than none. [00:10:09] Like you're just not going to do it. Even if people were throwing business at you, you would start to lose doors because things would start to fall apart. Clients would lose trust and you would lose business. You need to create the capacity, the space to be able to easily handle another couple of hundred doors or double in size, or no confidently we can get higher people very quickly and get people up to speed without making a bunch of mistakes, without thinking that the, that all people are crappy and it's difficult to hire, and there's no good people out there. There aren't good people in my market, or I have to have people that have property management experience. Then you need to have the confidence to be able to get them up to speed quickly, which means you have a really good process system. You have processes, you have a mechanism for getting them up to speed and in place, into position quickly, and that you know you've got the right people. [00:11:03] So that they, and they now have the right processes and tools and resources that they can get training and get up to speed rapidly, which is your process system. And then you need a really good planning system to get the entire team moving in the same direction to rowing together as a business, as a team, to use a rowboat analogy, that they are all moving and headed in the same direction instead of in conflict or at odds or just focus on their tasks. [00:11:34] We need a strategic planning system so that there are goals and planning to move the business forward so that you have a solid annual plan broken down into quarterly plan and quarterly goals and then you have your monthly goals and plan which are broken down into your weekly goals and commitments that each team member are taking on that are to move the business forward strategically so that the business is moving towards strategic growth instead of just transactional leadership where you're giving them a task and waiting for them to come back and say they've done it. So transactional leadership is this leadership style that demotivates your team and gets them to perform worse. Many of you live in a very transactional process system.  [00:12:20] So the other challenge at this stage is what I call the process myth. Everybody that's stuck at this stage believes they have a pretty good team. [00:12:29] Because you have a team, you've built some sort of team, but you built it the wrong way. How did you build it the wrong way? You built it around what you thought the business needed, and you didn't build it around what you needed to get to the next level and having more fulfillment in your day, more freedom, and less stress. [00:12:45] Each team member you've added has built more stress and added more questions to your day and you're involved in every single role. And so you have not built the team based on what you needed. You built the team based on what the business needed, which means the business now is evolving and becoming a monster that is like a high chair tyrant flinging food in your face and it's in control. [00:13:06] Instead of building the team and the business around what you need. So you have more calm, more freedom, more fulfillment, more support. And so we need to shift this. So you built this entire team the wrong way, and you think you have a good team, but if you are showing up, if you have an entire team and you are showing up in this business, not in a role in not doing the things that you love doing, not in a role and a position of fulfillment and enjoyment, in your own business, you are in charge of, you created, and you are miserable in your own business, then by default, you have the wrong team. [00:13:44] Zero question. This is as if you started with the wrong puzzle piece and went and found puzzle pieces to attach around your business to build out your team. You were showing up as the wrong square puzzle piece when you really are probably a beautiful round peg or round piece. And so you've built the wrong puzzle pieces around you, the wrong team. And I guarantee you're getting probably half to maybe a third, the output of a mediocre team like that, then you would, if you had a rockstar team and you may think "my team's pretty good," but if this is all you've experienced so far, you have no idea how amazing a team could be if they were really motivated and really performing well, and they loved doing what they got to do and they believed in you instead of just believed in getting paid as a transaction for work done. Here's the thing, entrepreneurs need to realize this. Entrepreneurs are money motivated naturally. Most of us are motivated and we love money. We don't hate money, right? You probably don't hate money. If you look on a disc assessment, there's usually a section called the values index or something like this, and there's a score called the economic score, this index and the economic index or economic score for most people is low. [00:15:00] It's below average. Which means they're not motivated economically, they're not motivated by money. They don't love money, right? It's not that big of a deal to them, which means once their basic needs are met, throwing money at them does not increase performance It doesn't motivate them giving them bonuses giving them pay just in exchange for doing tasks does not motivate them to perform well or better. Money's not a motivator really for them so If you have a high economic score and you view everyone else through that lens, and the only people that generally have a high economics score are entrepreneurs and salespeople. Well, good salespeople should like money because you want to reward them and incentivize them to want to bring in more money and they get paid if they bring in more money So that your interests are in alignment. So you need salespeople that are in alignment with compensation like commission structures, stuff like this that are motivated to make you more money and if they're not making you more money, then you're not having to spend as much money on them, right? There needs to be proper alignment incentive wise. Everybody else on your team though, are not going to be motivated by bonuses and money. And the mistake entrepreneurs make is they try to reward bonus them, compensate them for money. "Hey, if you get us some more positive reviews, we'll give you this bonus." [00:16:13] "Okay." [00:16:14] Right stuff like this and if you hire people that are- I want you to really listen to this if you hire people that are not money motivated, and their only motivation for working for you really is to get paid by you, then you have hired a dangerous person in your business. Let me make this clear I'm going to say this again, maybe in a little bit different way if you hire people and the exchange you're giving them is, their whole motivation to work for you is largely they just want to get money. That's the only reason they're really working for you. And you might be thinking, "what else would it be?" I'll explain that in a second. But their only motivation is to work for you to get money from you because they want money, but they're not money motivated necessarily, then they become dangerous to your business. [00:17:05] These are the people that steal. They steal time. Maybe they have ethics and they have some values and they're not going to actually steal money. But I've seen property managers repeatedly have their trust accounts depleted by people on their team before coming to us. I've seen people that handle their accounting and finances, steal money from them. [00:17:28] These are people that are not as money motivated. But their only motive is money. And so they are bringing people that maybe don't have the same value system as them, and they're not good fit for their business, et cetera. Okay. [00:17:42] If you bring in people that believe in you, let's talk about the opposite. [00:17:46] If people believe in you. They believe in your culture that you've established for the business. They believe in your company core values. They are inspired and they want to work for a business that has a greater purpose than just extracting money from tenants and owners. They want a mentor, A business owner that they can believe in that they feel like is going to help them grow and become even better person. [00:18:08] They want to be part of a business that is having a positive impact in people's lives and in the community. Then if they're not money motivated, it's okay. If their economic score is low, that means they're recognition motivated. So they also are motivated by being part of a team that has a positive culture of wins and recognition, which is part of the planning system that we would install, which is an accountability and recognition system that increases motivation among the team. [00:18:37] It inspires creativity, inspires innovation, inspires motivation among the team, especially team members that are not financially or economically motivated. Then you will get three times the output from these team members. You get way more output from these team members. They are willing to work for you because they're getting so much value in other ways. [00:19:00] They feel like they have a greater sense of the four reasons, as I've talked about on this podcast before of fulfillment, freedom, contribution, support. They feel like they get more of these four things because they're working for somebody that has these four things. Then they also get that fifth reason of safety and certainty because they're working for a business that is safe. [00:19:17] It's stable. It isn't crazy. It's a calm workplace because the leadership is calm. The leadership is in control. There is leadership there where they are leading from a space of having fulfillment and having freedom and having contribution and feeling like they're contributing, making a difference in the world and where they are supported. [00:19:39] And if you don't feel those four things in your business, you've built your business incorrectly. You may have taken good care of the tenants. Maybe you've taken good care of the owners, but you gave yourself a shit deal. You weren't taking care of yourself. And the whole reason the business exists for you is to provide you with fulfillment in your day to day. [00:19:59] You enjoy doing what you're doing. You're having more and more freedom and autonomy to make the choices and do the things you want to do in life. And that means you're making more and more money. And if you're making more and more money, you should have more and more freedom and fulfillment. [00:20:13] But most of you, if you're caught in the second sand trap are as a business are making more money than the business has ever made. But a lot of instances you're making less per unit or door than you've ever made, you know, profitability wise, and you don't really have more fulfillment and freedom. You are losing it. [00:20:32] Every door you add in every team member you add steals fulfillment and freedom from you steals a sense that you're making a difference and contributing in the world and makes you feel less supported and makes you feel like you have to support more. And so you're building your team and your business the wrong way. [00:20:49] And so this is the mess that DoorGrow helps businesses climb out of.  [00:20:54] How do we escape this? We need to do things like have you do a time study, have you figure out energetically, which things are bringing you more freedom and fulfillment, which things are your plus signs, which things are your minus signs. Then building out your job description. Like what is your actual job description and what do you want it to be? And then figuring out, all right, what role do we need to hire or bring in or get to build the team around you to make sure you're supported. Usually this means the first person you hire should be an assistant that just helps you. [00:21:24] Not a clone, not somebody that has all the same attributes as you, but somebody that's opposite and complimentary to you. To help you with all those minus signs that fits that personality. A big mistake, a lot of entrepreneurs make in building their team initially is they try to first go follow the clone myth and go hire somebody like them. [00:21:43] Here's the reality: it takes 10 people to clone yourself in a business. Just roughly, it takes about 10 people to match all of the skills and things that you do when you're wearing all the different hats in a business. It takes 10 different personalities. Because you don't enjoy wearing every one of those hats. [00:21:59] You need to find people that enjoy wearing each individual hat as you build that out. So just get that idea in your head. It's going to take about 10 people to clone you. So kill that clone myth and don't go try and find a mini me or somebody like yourself. That's a huge red flag and mistake when you hire somebody that's like you. [00:22:15] These are usually the people that have the same skill set, capacity, intelligence level as you and an entrepreneurial drive as you. That go and steal portfolios, steal clients and go start their own property management business. Because really be honest with yourself as an entrepreneur, you are probably now unemployable. [00:22:35] You probably couldn't just go work for somebody else. You probably wouldn't want to. So you're not going to do that, right? They don't want to work for somebody either if they are entrepreneurial. They eventually start seeing flaws in how you think and how you do things. They're like, "I could do this better. I want to do this differently. I can see all these different things I would be good at I could change," and they go and start their own business and then steal whoever's loyal to them if at all possible, because that's the easiest thing for some of these people to do. Right? "Well, yeah, that guy's, or gal's a bad boss. You should come with me. We're going to do things differently." And they're like, "yeah!" And that's like people that are not a good culture fit. They're not loyal to you. All right, if they're not a good culture fit if they're not a right personality fit, they're not they don't really love the role or position and if they're not the right skill fit or intelligence level, they don't have the capacity to do the job or they don't have the training to do the job Right, so you need all three. [00:23:32] All right so If you want to escape this second sand trap and escape having this business that is frustrating and difficult, just recognize you can do this. Like you can have the business of your dreams and you don't have to change the industry. You don't have to give up on property management in order to do that. [00:23:53] You just need to align the business with what you most enjoy doing in it. So let's say you love doing sales. You could be the bdm in your own business. You could do sales. A lot of business owners do that Let's say you hate sales, but you love the accounting. You would just love to spend more time doing that you could do that It's your business Let's say, you love doing the operational pieces and the tech and geeking out on systems you could just focus on that and you could bring somebody else in to be the bdm and to make everything like grow, right? There's nothing you have to do you could even get to the point where you do nothing in your business if you wanted to, and you wanted to get to that level of exit where you exit or leadership, and you're no longer involved in the business. [00:24:35] That's possible, too. But then, for most entrepreneurs, you would probably be bored, right? This is another factor that I think is important. If you're stuck in this next sand trap, a lot of times the reason people end up really frustrated, really demoralized, really stressed is because they don't understand these different levels of exit that exist. [00:24:56] And so this is a concept that I got from a gentleman named Roland Frasier. He's an interesting dude. He's an attorney and he's a couple of different things if I remember correctly, but what he generally teaches is about buying and selling businesses and stuff like this. And one of the things I picked up from him and from Ryan Deiss, who are both connected to a program that we were in called Scalable, is the more valuable you are to your company, the less valuable your company is. [00:25:27] So if you're ever looking to exit or sell this, that's important to recognize. The other thing that I thought was really interesting is this five levels of exit that I learned from Roland Frasier. So the first exit is exit the line. This is where you go from worker to manager. In property management frontline work is handling tenants doing all the property management stuff. [00:25:48] That's difficult And if you can't exit level exit one. You can't exit one and you think the only way to escape that is to sell the business, then you have a really unhealthy mindset and you're probably super miserable in your own business So you need to be able to exit level one. If any property management business owner that doesn't exit level one, they're still a property manager and they're not the entrepreneur or the business owner. [00:26:11] They're not truly an owner of the business. They're the, they're an employee in it, right? Number two is to exit the staff. This is where you go from manager to CEO. So you're no longer doing like the frontline lowest level work. Then you're exiting the staff, which is maybe the managerial sort of level work. [00:26:28] And now you're a CEO where you have managers. You have people you trust to oversee departments. Like you have a head of maybe maintenance coordination and you have a head of property management, you know, whatever. Right. The next is to exit the org chart. So you go from CEO to maybe being an advisor, being on a board, you're on the board of advisors. [00:26:48] And now you have a business, it, you're an owner, it pays you and you've exited the org chart. The next would be to exit the board. You're no longer like really having to like steer the business, you know, from behind the scenes, you're no longer involved. You trust that there's a whole group of people that make this work and there's a board and you just own it. [00:27:11] You're just taking cash, like you're just getting paid. And then the fifth level of exit is to exit ownership. It's to leave the business. So one of the things that's super important is for you to recognize where is your best level of exit you want to be at right now? If you've been in pain a while, you're probably thinking "exit five. Like I want to sell this thing. I hate it. It's awful." I talk to a lot of people that are like that and I'm like "you're just doing it wrong let's get this fixed" because The myth that people believe is that if you're at this stage of misery in your business It's "I should go start another business, something else I'll do something else." I guarantee if you go start something else, you're going to start with less knowledge, less skill. You're going to have to go through the pain and the lessons and everything. And you're going to get to the same stage in the video game where you have the same boss to beat. He's just got a different outfit on but it's that same giant gorilla that you got to fight or whatever it is in Donkey Kong and you've got to beat this beast of a gorilla and it is building the right hiring system, the people system, the right planning system and the right process system. [00:28:16] And you still have never figured this out. And so you're going to end up miserable building the wrong team around you again. You're going to end up in the same place, just in a different industry. You have to learn how to solve this boss. And that's what we do at DoorGrow. We help you figure out how to beat this level boss. [00:28:35] We've helped lots of people do it. We've replaced entire teams. We've helped install hiring systems. Hiring is a problem at any level of business. I've seen multi million dollar very wealthy business owners In lots of different industries and masterminds have been in hiring is still consistently a problem for these individuals and so we want to make sure that you're able to let go of that. That you're able to not have to deal with that. [00:29:01] So figure out the level of exit that you most desire to be at. If you're in a healthy state, most of you would probably not want to just be out of the business and retired. Most of you would be bored. You enjoy maybe dealing with certain things in the business and you enjoy maybe running the business. [00:29:19] If it were healthy and you had a good team, so we need to restructure the business around you. So it's giving you what you want. Then it can start to give the team members more of what they want. And you'll have better team members that will stick around because they're not working for somebody that is making bad decision making and making bad choices and running the business in a state of chaos and misery. [00:29:39] Right? Healthy business owners have healthy businesses have healthy team members and feel very well supported. And the only reason you're not there is you just don't know yet what healthy business owners know there's just a little gap in knowledge and maybe a gap in some systems that could easily be given to you, learned and installed rather than having to play Russian roulette, take lots of risks, spend tons of time through trial and error and reading books and watching YouTube videos, wasting time and money and focus and energy and all the other currencies. [00:30:15] Our goal at DoorGrow is to help you collapse time and figure out what works. I've made all these mistakes. I've done all the mistakes that we've talked about. I've done it. And I've worked and I've shelled out a lot of money to operational coaches, to relationship coaches, to fitness coaches, to, I mean, you name it, sales coaches. [00:30:35] Like I've spent. I'm still always learning and I've invested so much into figuring these problems out. My goal is to help you not have to waste all that time, energy, money, to collapse time and just help you go faster. I believe everyone listening to this, if you really are an entrepreneur, you can figure all of this out on your own. I like I have no question. You can absolutely do this. I did it, and I was super clueless in a lot of areas I was super clueless in financials, super clueless in sales like I've had to get coaches and mentors in all of this stuff, super clueless in relationships. I'm on my third marriage. Like I've studied relationships in an insane amount, right? [00:31:17] There's nothing like pain to cause you to learn right? My goal is to help you collapse time on all this because all of these things affect your business All these things affect your revenue all these things affect your team All these affect your ability to lead and if I can help you collapse time on this, just with some clarity and some direction and some systems, you will go so much more fast, so much more quickly, add so many more doors, so much more revenue, have so much more space, so much more freedom, so much more happiness and joy in your business. [00:31:51] It doesn't have to be this hard. And our program in my opinion, even though we raised our pricing is so much cheaper, so much less expensive than the cost of tuition of learning that I've paid to get to the point that I'm at in business. And it's so much cheaper than the price of tuition and stress and money you're going to have to pay in challenges and mistakes in order to get to that level and learn. [00:32:17] I'm going to help you collapse time. Our programs, even if they cost thousands of dollars a month on some of our most expensive ones, are easily offset. They're so easily offset. Like sometimes we offset that in our first jumpstart session that we do in person with new clients. We offset that. That expense right away you have enough doors we can easily find another couple grand or a few grand in the business monthly just because of some of the challenges that exist, and then our program is paid for then even if you a lot of you if you add 10 20 or 30 new doors, which is not hard to do. There's no scarcity out there in the marketplace. It is so easy once you get things in alignment to bring a new business and to attract new business without spending any dollars on advertising, we can usually eliminate two to three grand a month, just in expenses in advertising that larger companies are doing that doesn't even need to exist. [00:33:14] Just that alone would like pay for the program and it would be easily offset. And then you'll actually grow faster using the strategies that we give you. So there's so many ways in which making the decision to work with DoorGrow is not an expense. It makes you money. Otherwise clients don't stay with us. We don't have any sort of term limit or contract where you have to stay with us, like even over a month, like you don't have to, you can quit and cancel at any time. [00:33:42] And the reason we don't have agreements and contracts, like a lot of the vendors you work with like in property management space or tools that you use or software or whatever, you've got contracts and agreements with a lot of different people. We don't need it because clients stay with us longer. [00:33:56] They stay with us for years. So we've eliminated that. We knew if we could just keep people for a year in the past, we could get them great results. And so we had agreements in place. We don't even need that anymore. We are super low risk. We have more testimonials and case studies than any other coach or consultant in the industry. [00:34:13] They can't keep up with us. And we have such a great system because we have our planning system and we have a great team and these systems in place that I'm speaking of on this call. Nobody can keep pace with DoorGrow's level of innovation and what we're adding to our program consistently. We just rolled out these new client workbooks. [00:34:31] We just rolled out recently in the recent years, we rolled out a new martial art style belt system for clients to level up going from a white belt with zero doors. Well, one door up to a black belt with a thousand doors quickly. And we've consistently keep rolling out new and better systems and resources. [00:34:50] And so nobody can catch us. That's why I'm confident in saying DoorGrow is the best, most comprehensive coaching and consulting program for property managers in the space. Period. If you are, especially if you're doing third party property management, but even if you're like, you know, an owner operator, if you're at that next level, we've got operational challenges we can help you be able to increase your capacity and get to the next level. So this is all I wanted to say today. This is my, a bit of a rant, but I want you to understand there's hope. You can do this and you could do it on your own. Doing things on your own is the stupidest path to growth. I've been that idiot. [00:35:31] I have done that. It was slow. It was grueling. It was frustrating and it was demoralizing. And when I started getting coaches and mentors, every decent coach I had because I had the belief that I was going to get something out of that program, come hell or high water. I was positive active in my mindset. [00:35:50] I was positive. Like focus on what's the positive outcomes I can get from this and I was taking action and being active I always made my money back on anything that I did or any program that I did I was making even more money than what that program cost me and that's what we want to help you do. We can easily offset the cost of our program. [00:36:08] So I don't believe DoorGrow is an expense. DoorGrow has legit roi. DoorGrow is a value add to your business so. If you're not an idiot and you're intelligent and you want to collapse time and you want to work with DoorGrow reach out to us we can help you do this. It doesn't have to be so painful. It doesn't have to be so hard We have proven this over and over again that our systems, our growth strategies, our ops stuff all works. We've proven this. We use our own op stuff internally. [00:36:41] We have proven that this stuff works and we know it can work for you. We've done this with multiple clients. The only question I have is, are you going to do the work? That's it. I can't do it all for you. I can't do it for you. You've got to do it, but you're already working hard. If you would like to work less hard in the future and more smart, reach out to DoorGrow. [00:37:02] You can reach us at DoorGrow. com or make sure to join our free Facebook group doorgrowclub.com where we will nurture you, give you some value until you're ready to work with us to grow your business and get it to the next level. And if you're comfortable, it's time to get uncomfortable because when you're comfortable, you're at risk. [00:37:22] There's risk. There's challenge. If your business isn't healthy and growing, it's dying. If your business doesn't have the right systems in place and you lose a key team member, it's at risk and it's in danger. You need to get these systems installed, regardless of how healthy your business feels right now. [00:37:38] If you do not have a people system, a planning system and a process system. Then your business is at risk. You are in a dangerous position and you're acting like the ostrich with its head in the sand, hoping that if you ignore the problem. You will always be good. And that's not going to be the case. You will get hit with something. [00:37:56] This happens. I want you to have a safe business. I want you to take care of your team, take care of your family and set some protective barriers in place. You need these systems installed in your business so that you have a healthy business continually. And you become what I call infinitely scalable, which means your capacity is no longer a hundred doors, 200 doors, you know, you could get to a thousand doors and nothing's going to break or fall apart because you'll be able to handle it because you've got the support of an expert team DoorGrow. [00:38:25] And you've got systems like people planning a process, the super system, and you're able to continually scale and get to that next level. We've helped clients do it. We want to help you and it gets easier and better the more doors you have if you do it in the right way, not worse and not harder and not more stressful because you get better team members, you have better systems, you have more money and revenue. You can take more vacations. You'll have more freedom. Let's make that happen for you. Reach out to us. Check us out at DoorGrow. com until next time to our mutual growth Bye everyone, and I'm out. [00:39:00] Jason: you just listened to the #DoorGrowShow. We are building a community of the savviest property management entrepreneurs on the planet in the DoorGrowClub. Join your fellow DoorGrow Hackers at doorgrowclub.com. Listen, everyone is doing the same stuff. SEO, PPC, pay-per-lead content, social direct mail, and they still struggle to grow!  [00:39:27] At DoorGrow, we solve your biggest challenge: getting deals and growing your business. Find out more at doorgrow.com. Find any show notes or links from today's episode on our blog doorgrow.com, and to get notified of future events and news subscribe to our newsletter at doorgrow.com/subscribe. Until next time, take what you learn and start DoorGrow Hacking your business and your life.

Welcome to the Art of Value Whispering podcast Today, I'm joined by Kennedy, founder of Email Marketing Heroes. Kennedy began his career as a full-time entertainer, combining psychology, body language, and comedy for corporate events worldwide. When fellow entertainers asked him for advice,it led him to create his first online coaching program and a monthly email newsletter, helping other entertainers charge their true worth. Over time, he shifted to focus on marketing, identifying email as the most impactful tool. Today, Kennedy shares his unique approach to email marketing, teaching businesses how to make more sales through effective email marketing strategies. Join us in the episode as Kennedy shares actionable tips and insights on how to make more sales through email marketing that converts subscribers into paying customers. ‍   “Until you make your email list the hub of your business, you are choosing to make everything in your business more challenging than it needs to be” - Kennedy ‍ In this Week's Episode... ‍ In this episode, you will learn: The vital role of email marketing in your overall strategy How email supports long-term business success How to overcome common objections to email marketing How to balance valuable content with promotional offers Ways to determine the right email frequency for your audience Key strategies for impactful email marketing The easiest way to find valuable stories to share Simple methods to grow your email list  ‍ “Emailing less than three times a week risks your audience forgetting about you.” - Kennedy ‍ About Kennedy He's spoken on stage all over the world from London to Las Vegas and shared the stage with the who's who of marketing and entrepreneurship including Steven Bartlett, Ryan Deiss and Ali Abdaal.  ‍ This guy is known for his unconventional approach to email marketing. He's helped more than 7,500 businesses to make more sales through email marketing that converts subscribers into paying customers. ‍ You might know him as the host of the top 3% podcast, The Email Marketing Show. ‍ Connect with Kennedy ‍  Website     LinkedIn     FB Group ‍ ‍ About Melitta Melitta Campbell is an award-winning business coach who is passionate about helping women confidently build and grow a business that matters, through her award-winning Value Whispering Blueprint programme. ‍ She teaches her clients a unique approach to business growth and promotion that she has termed Value Whispering: the art of gently weaving your true value through everything you do, building meaningful relationships, and gently guiding your clients to the results they seek. So no matter how soft your voice. You can create a powerful impact.   Her expertise comes from three decades of communication, marketing and leadership experience, including more than a decade of running her own businesses. As a certified mindset coach, she also coaches her clients on the inner-game of success, as well as the practicalities of starting and running a thriving business and maintaining a balanced lifestyle.   Melitta is also the best-selling author of A Shy Girl's Guide to Networking, host of the popular: The Art of Value Whispering podcast and an in-demand speaker, appearing on stages and screens internationally. ‍ Originally from the UK, she now supports her global client base from her home in Switzerland, where she lives with her husband, two daughters and fluffy pup. ‍ You can learn more about Melitta's story here.   Connect with Melitta Website        Facebook        Linkedin         Twitter         YouTube     ‍ ‍ Join the Dream Clients Club Come and join like-minded women in the FREE online community for Female Entrepreneurs. You can expect many more tips, tools and insights to support you as you build and grow your business to 6 figures and beyond! > The Dream Clients Club ‍ You May Also Enjoy... The Art of Email: How to Connect, Engage and Sell with Email How to Market Your Business on a Budget Improving Your Online Visibility - Traffic plus Conversion Good Planning is Good Business - Candice Bakx-Friesen Bringing Authenticity, Health and Balance to your Business - Kristen Bowen‍ ‍ > More Podcast Episodes ‍

Digital marketing veteran Ryan Deiss built his first online business in 1999 - when Google was still a university research project. Today, after generating $200 million in revenue across multiple companies, he sees a fundamental shift in how customers buy. "The marketing funnel isn't just broken - it's dead," Deiss tells host Mark Drager. "Modern buyers don't follow a linear path. They bounce between channels, research extensively, and make decisions based on relationships, not just targeting." In this episode, Deiss breaks down why established marketing practices fail in 2024's fragmented digital landscape. He explains how successful companies now focus on clear problem statements over hyper-targeting, why perfect attribution tracking misleads marketers, and how businesses build customer relationships without aggressive follow-up. Key Episode Insights: Why broad messaging often outperforms micro-targeted ads How to write high-converting ads using simple problem statements Practical email strategies that maintain relationships without burning goodwill Listen to discover how leading companies adapt their marketing for today's reality - and why methods that worked even three years ago might be hurting your results now. Follow Mark: LinkedIn: https://hi.switchy.io/markdrager Instagram: https://hi.switchy.io/KcKi Want more free tools? Go to our podcast page at https://hi.switchy.io/KcKe  

In this episode of the Business Growth Hacks podcast, hosts Andrew Brockenbush and John dive into a powerful framework shared by Ryan Deiss for transforming cold audiences into loyal customers. They walk through key steps to identify customer pain points, develop high-impact content, leverage YouTube ads, and re-engage leads effectively. These strategies are designed to help business owners maximize their marketing impact and drive consistent growth. Tune in for actionable insights that can take your customer conversion to new heights.Key Points:- [0:31] Introduction to Ryan Deiss's Framework - Overview of a step-by-step guide for creating buyers from scratch, addressing issues like low conversions and lead generation.- [1:18] Identifying Customer Pain Points - Start with at least 30 customer pain points to align your messaging with customer needs. They recommend using a targeted ChatGPT prompt for this.- [2:28] Crafting Pillar Content - Create a central, high-value content piece (like a guide or webinar) that addresses multiple problems. This becomes a "binge-worthy" resource for potential customers.- [4:28] Using YouTube Ads to Build Engagement - How YouTube's in-feed discovery ads help reach audiences actively searching for solutions, creating a content "binge factory."- [5:20] The “Ready Now Hand-Raiser” Re-engagement Strategy - Reconnect with existing leads through a straightforward email to determine who's ready to make a purchase.Quotable Moments:- [1:45] “When you fully understand the problems your audience faces, you can position your product as the solution they've been looking for.” – Andrew Brockenbush- [4:09] “Think of pillar content as the piece that every potential customer should see before they ever work with you.” – John- [5:02] “Sometimes all it takes is giving your leads an opportunity to act.” – Andrew BrockenbushLinks Mentioned:Beefy Marketing: http://www.beefymarketing.comBusiness Growth Challenge: https://www.businessgrowthhacks.com/p/business-growth-challenge/This episode is packed with practical, step-by-step advice from Ryan Deiss's framework that every small business can benefit from. Start by identifying customer pain points, then develop high-value content and smartly use ads to grow engagement. If you found these tips helpful please, share this episode with a friend.

Ryan Deiss shares the best advice on building, managing and scaling in business, that he's learned over 20+ years since launching his first business to growing into a $200M portfolio of 17 businesses.Get in touch with Ryan:Youtube: @RyanDeissOfficialInstagram: @RyanDeissWebsite: Scalable.coWant To Quit Your Job In The Next 6-18 Months Through Buying Commercial Real Estate & Small Businesses?

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this session, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the nuances of building a cohesive leadership team, the importance of clarity days, and the role of personality tests in enhancing team dynamics. They explore strategic exercises that foster better communication and trust among team members. This discussion is packed with actionable advice on handling conflict, aligning team goals, and the significance of understanding individual communication styles within a team.Highlights:"The key is just as a leadership team, you're talking about stuff.""If you haven't done the five dysfunctions, highly recommend it.""Consensus kills because it's everybody basically creating what they call artificial harmony.""Giving people the benefit of the doubt and you will have a happier life and better relationships."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction to Clarity Days and Team Building01:26 - Roland's Hectic Schedule and the Importance of Team Facilitation04:16 - Insights on Personality Tests and Team Dynamics06:36 - The Concept of Clarity Day Explained10:11 - When to Initiate Leadership Exercises in a Company13:24 - The Importance of Asking the Right Questions to Co-founders17:32 - The Role of the CEO in Decision Making and Conflict Resolution20:04 - Building Trust and Understanding within Leadership Teams22:57 - The Importance of Regular Team Meetings and Personal Connections27:29 - The Impact of Personal Wins and Team CohesionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of the Business Lunch podcast! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the complexities of hiring for executive leadership roles, particularly when you're unfamiliar with the specific function of the role. They discuss practical strategies for identifying and recruiting top talent, leveraging both traditional search firms and AI tools to define roles and refine hiring processes. Whether you're scaling up your business or just starting, this episode offers valuable insights into making strategic hires that align with your company's growth objectives.Highlights:"If you achieve any level of scale, you're going to have to hire people that are truly exceptional at those functional roles that you're not good at." "The very first thing is to determine what is the actual need in the organization and then document what does the person who is going to fill the need look like." "A good search firm is going to help you significantly." "You need to tap an outside expert if you don't know anything about the role." Timestamps:00:01 - Introduction to Executive Hiring Challenges01:01 - Welcome and Recap of Recent Activities01:17 - Post-Event Fatigue and Personal Anecdotes02:02 - Challenges of Attending a Music Festival Post-Business Event03:59 - Transition from Personal Recap to Business Discussions05:11 - Detailed Discussion on Hiring for Unknown Roles08:09 - Identifying Business Needs and Role Requirements11:18 - The Value of Leveraging Search Firms and AI in Hiring15:00 - Discussing Cultural Fit and Defining the Hiring Process20:00 - Effective Interview Techniques and Utilizing AI for QuestioningCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

What if I told you that living an amazing life boils down to just three simple traits? In this episode of The Happy Hustle Podcast, I'm breaking down the concept of PHK, which stands for Positivity, Helpfulness, and Kindness—three attributes that, when embodied, will drastically improve your life in more ways than you can imagine. I first came across this idea from Ryan Deiss, the founder of Digital Marketer. We met at the Traffic and Conversion Summit, and he recently discussed it on the Money Mondays podcast with Dan Fleyshman (shoutout to them!). Ryan shared that PHK is what he teaches his kids to live an amazing life, and let me tell you—it's just as impactful for adults too. First up in PHK is Positivity. And no, this isn't about being unrealistically cheerful 24/7. Positivity is about carrying that light within you, that energy that uplifts everyone around you. It's about gratitude and finding the silver lining, even when things get tough.When you choose positivity, you attract positive opportunities. You inspire those around you. And most importantly, you create a better life for yourself.The second attribute is Helpfulness. If you want to win in life, you have to serve others. Period. Helpfulness is about offering value without expecting anything in return—because good karma always finds its way back. When you help others, you build trust, create connections, and establish strong relationships. Last, but not least, is Kindness. You have the choice to be kind in every interaction. Whether it's a compliment to the grocery store cashier or offering support to a friend in need, kindness is a game-changer. It's more than just making someone's day—it has the power to transform lives.So that's PHK: Positivity, Helpfulness, and Kindness. These three simple yet profound traits are the keys to Happy Hustlin' and living an amazing life. Shoutout to Ryan Deiss for sharing this with me because it's been a game-changer, and I hope it is for you too.If you start embodying these traits today, I guarantee you'll notice the difference. Be positive, be helpful, be kind—and you'll attract more joy, opportunities, and fulfillment.Now get out there and start living your best PHK-filled life!Connect with Cary!https://www.instagram.com/caryjack/https://www.facebook.com/SirCaryJackhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/cary-jack-kendzior/https://twitter.com/thehappyhustlehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFDNsD59tLxv2JfEuSsNMOQ/featured Get a free copy of his new book, The Happy Hustle, 10 Alignments to Avoid Burnout & Achieve Blissful Balance https://www.thehappyhustle.com/bookSign up for The Journey: 10 Days To Become a Happy Hustler Online Coursehttps://thehappyhustle.com/thejourney/Apply to the Montana Mastermind Epic Camping Adventurehttps://thehappyhustle.com/mastermind/“It's time to Happy Hustle, a blissfully balanced life you love, full of passion, purpose, and positive impact!”Episode Sponsor: Magnesium Breakthrough from BiOptimizers (https://bioptimizers.com/happy)If you've been on a restricted diet lately or maybe even taken some meds to shed those pounds for the summer, I gotta warn ya—be careful! You might have unknowingly created a nutrient deficiency that could not only mess with your health but also jeopardize those weight loss goals.Did you know that over 75% of Americans are already deficient in magnesium? Yeah, it's wild! Magnesium is this powerhouse mineral that's involved in over 600 biological reactions in your body. It helps with everything from sleep to stress management to hormone balance—all key players in keeping your weight on track.And if you're still on those meds, you might be dealing with some side effects like sleepless nights, digestive issues, or irritability, which can totally throw off your commitment to your goals. Whether you're taking meds or not, setting up healthy habits is crucial to maintaining your weight over time. One of the best things you can do? Make sure you're getting all the magnesium your body needs.Don't let a magnesium deficiency derail your progress! Give Magnesium Breakthrough by BIOptimizers a shot. Unlike other supplements, this one's got all 7 forms of magnesium that your body can actually absorb, so you get the full spectrum of benefits.This approach will help you crush your goals and maintain a healthy weight while keeping your overall health in check. For an exclusive offer, head to bioptimizers.com/happy and use the promo code 'happy10' at checkout to save 10%. And if you subscribe, you'll snag amazing discounts, free gifts, and a guaranteed monthly supply.

Welcome to The Profit Talk! In this show, we're going to help you explore strategies to help you maximize profits in your business while scaling and creating the lifestyle that you want as an entrepreneur. I am your host, Susanne Mariga! I'm a CPA, a Fractional CFO, and a Certified Profit First Professional Mastery Level providing tax strategies to 7 and 8-figure entrepreneurs. Let's dive into strategies to maximize profits in your business!  “Buying and selling small businesses: Wall Street acquisition strategies simplified for the everyday  entrepreneur” The Profit Talk is excited to have as our guest today, Marty M. Fahncke (pronounced Fawn-Key), a  seasoned world-class Marketer with over 30 years of experience in growing & scaling businesses, and over 20 years of experience in Mergers and Acquisitions. In that time, Marty has helped hundreds of small businesses scale to over $1 Billion in revenue and executed over $450 million in Mergers and Acquisitions transactions.  Topics for Marty to discuss: “If your business is “sellable”, it's also “scalable.” Meaning if you build your business as if somebody is going to buy it tomorrow, it's going to be so much better and more profitable for you to own, operate and grow.  How do you make your business sellable and scalable? #1 Operating System SOP's EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) from Geno Wickman Scaling Up from Verne Harnish (Formerly Gazelles) Scalable Operating System from Ryan Deiss and Roland Frazier #2 Financials Clean, organized, profitable Recommend Profits First! #3 Remove yourself from the business so it's not “Owner operated” If you DO want to sell, identify WHO will by your business and WHY. Remember the 7 Habits of  highly effective people “Begin with the end in mind”. If you build your business knowing who will  buy it, when, and for how much, you will be further ahead than 99% of business owners out there who  have a plan to “sell their business some day”, but that's the sum total of their plan. And statistics show  that 90% of them will not be successful. Learn more about Marty and the services he provides at https://www.westboundroad.com/ Visit my FREE Facebook Group, The Profit First Masterclass, where I'll be sharing additional exclusive trainings to members of the community.   If you're excited about what's next for your business and upcoming episodes, please head to our itunes page and give us a review! Your support will help me to bring in other amazing expert interviews to share their best tips on how to powerfully grow in your business!  DISCLAIMER: The information contained within these videos is provided for informational purposes only and does not constitute, an accountant-client relationship. While we use reasonable efforts to furnish accurate and up-to-date information, we assume no liability or responsibility for any errors, omissions, or regulatory updates in the content of this video. Any U.S. federal tax advice contained within is not intended to be used for the purpose of avoiding penalties under U.S. federal tax law

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, we dive into the intriguing dynamics between being in 'founder mode' and 'manager mode' within a business. Our hosts, Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier, engage in a rich discussion about the challenges and strategies of balancing hands-on leadership with the necessity of delegation as companies scale. They explore insights inspired by Paul Graham's article on 'founder mode' and share real-world experiences that highlight the importance of a hybrid approach to management and leadership.Highlights:"This is not a problem to be solved, this is a tension that needs to be managed." "Nobody cares as much about the company as the founder that created it." "A good founder is a coach to the people they are mentoring." "If you implement just one or two key insights from any of our sessions into your business, you are bound to see a return on investment much higher than what we could ever charge for admission." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction 04:26 - The scalability and the practicality of a hybrid management mode07:25 - Maintaining company culture and the dangers of founder dependency09:34 - The cyclic needs of a business from founder and manager perspectives12:45 - Shifting from manager to founder mode16:36 - Micromanagement VS empowering employees19:15 - The concept and application of skip-level meetings23:26 - When and how to conduct skip-level meetings effectively27:11 - Avoiding common pitfalls during skip-level meetings29:00 - Final thoughtsCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the nuances of deal-making. They dissect a real-life business deal they're considering, discussing everything from potential conflicts with partners and how to handle equity distribution to the importance of strategic alignment in business ventures. Join them as they provide valuable insights that can help any business owner or entrepreneur looking to expand through acquisitions or partnerships.Highlights:"Opportunities to grow your business come in many forms, whether through acquisition or strategic partnerships." "The potential conflicts and complexities in deals are what make discussing them so beneficial.""Handling equity and understanding everyone's value add is crucial in any business deal.""Every deal has its own challenges and alignment issues, especially when multiple partners are involved."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction00:58 - Setting the Stage04:09 - Analyzing Deal Conflicts08:11 - Strategic Alignments12:01 - Discussing Partner Contributions17:06 - Equity and Value Discussions22:30 - Practical Examples28:06 - Full-Time Commitment Challenges34:49 - Closing the Deal40:07 - Reflecting on the Deal's ComplexityCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the critical role that metrics and scorecards play in managing and growing a business. They explore common pitfalls, such as tracking vanity metrics or setting unclear targets, and share insights on how to build a scorecard system that aligns with your business goals. By keeping it simple and actionable, they reveal how businesses can avoid overwhelm and achieve growth, all while holding teams accountable and driving performance. Whether you're managing affiliates or refining sales processes, this episode offers practical, hands-on advice.Highlights:"Tracking vanity metrics is like driving with the wrong map—you'll never reach your destination.""A great scorecard isn't just about data; it's about telling the story of your business.""A scorecard that's always red is a clear signal: something needs to change.""Keep it simple: The fewer metrics you track, the clearer your business story becomes."Timestamps:00:00 - Tracking the right vs. wrong metrics01:13 - Ryan's water fast experience and its connection to reset habits03:48 - The impact of water fasting on health and mindset07:25 - The importance of downtime for leaders10:10 - The negative effects of tracking the wrong metrics13:30 - The challenges of onboarding affiliates19:11 - Avoiding common scorecard mistakes21:25 - Simplifying the scorecard-building process27:28 - The main purpose of scorecards 31:35 - Resources for building effective CEO scorecards CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

As a broke college student, Ryan Deiss met the love of his life, and after two weeks of seeing each other, he decided he wanted to marry her. So, he started a business to save up for their wedding ring! Now, he's with the love of his life and has built a multimillion-dollar business. What a story to tell, am I right? How about you—how far would you go to achieve your goals? --- Ryan Deiss is a top digital marketing expert and founder of Digital Marketer. He's known for his easy-to-understand strategies that help businesses succeed online. With his innovative methods, he has become a leading figure in the marketing world, making him a trusted resource for growing your business. --- Like this episode? Watch more like it

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into leveraging YouTube for business growth, highlighting strategies that avoid the typical creator grind. They discuss the importance of producing a 'pillar content' video that encompasses the essence of their message and using it as a lead generation tool. They also explore the efficient use of discovery ads to increase content reach without overwhelming content production demands.Highlights:"You don't have to post all the time, but you do have to do what they're unwilling to do, which is to spend some advertising dollars.""We're not purely dependent upon the algorithm to make sure if we ever pause, then it goes away.""It's truly amazing what can happen when you step out of the day-to-day.""If you're a business person, you're not a YouTuber, and you're not a creator, and you want to give YouTube a shot... what's the one piece of content you wish everybody saw before they talked to anybody in your sales team?"Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction to YouTube Struggles and Strategies01:52 - The Merit of Consulting and Content Creation03:53 - Approaches to Social Media and Content Impact05:57 - Special Event Announcement: Get Scalable Live10:15 - Detailed Discussion on Content Strategy and YouTube12:43 - Deciding on Pillar Content for Business16:22 - Relaunching with Optimized Content20:00 - Driving Traffic with Discovery Ads22:24 - Analyzing Budget and Audience Impact25:28 - Sustaining Business through Strategic Ad SpendingCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable Workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, join Roland Frasier and his business partner Ryan Deiss as they unpack the insights and strategies from a recent equity consulting session. In this episode, they delve into their unique approach to consulting for equity, where they not only advise but also implement strategies for significant business growth. They discuss the importance of identifying and solving for the right problems, leveraging their extensive experience to help businesses achieve a substantial return on investment. Whether you're a business owner looking to scale or a consultant seeking to enhance your methods, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.Highlights:"Our goal is to provide at least ten times the return on investment for the companies we consult." "Much of successful consulting is about asking the right questions.""You can't read the label from inside the jar—that's why outside perspectives are crucial.”"If you're clear on the problem and someone's playbook can solve it, that's a perfect match." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction and Context Setting04:44 - Explaining Consulting for Equity09:29 - Starting Points in Consultation16:07 - The Consultation Process: Listening and Understanding21:58 - Implementing Solutions: Discovery to Action26:59 - Managing Stakeholder Pushback and Resistance31:35 - Narrowing Down the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP)36:21 - Understanding Levels of Customer Awareness40:57 - Business Strategy Adjustments and Recommendations44:38 - Conclusion: Summarizing Key Actions and StepsCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, hosts Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier delve deep into the practical applications and the realistic expectations of artificial intelligence in business. They discuss the current state of AI, debunking the hype and exploring its genuine impact on productivity and business strategy. From investment insights to AI's role across various business departments, this episode provides a grounded perspective on what AI truly offers to entrepreneurs.Highlights:"AI continues to amaze, it's the investors who are way ahead of the curve." "The conversation about AI isn't just about the technology; it's about how we're using it to make real business impacts." "AI isn't just a tool; it's becoming a central player in strategic business planning." "Implementing AI isn't just an option; it's a necessity for staying competitive." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: Breaking Down AI's Role in Business02:09 - Analyzing AI's Financial Impact and Investor Behavior03:27 - Evaluating AI Against Investor Expectations07:30 - AI's Evolution in Major Tech Companies10:15 - Discussion: Where AI Stands in the Hype Cycle12:35 - Practical Applications of AI in HR and Strategic Planning17:09 - In-Depth: AI's Integration Across Business Functions20:45 - Essential AI Tools and Their Business Applications25:40 - AI's Role in Enhancing Business Creativity and Efficiency28:42 - Providing 24/7 Customer Service Through AI30:41 - AI's Potential in Sales and Marketing34:10 - Final Thoughts: Embracing AI for Business InnovationCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch with Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss! Today, we dive deep into the nuances of direct response marketing, the importance of knowing your ideal client, and how this understanding transforms your brand messaging. Whether it's discussing the delicate balance between high-end perception and effective market reach or exploring specific strategies for engaging your audience without compromising brand integrity, this episode is packed with insights tailored for both up-and-coming and established businesses.Highlights:"You've got to be crystal clear on who your ideal client is.""Every business under the sun is only ever selling two things: transformation or identity reinforcement.""If you're not creating that initial attention and turning it into engagement almost immediately, you're going to miss.""No one test is going to bring down a brand; if it did, your brand was insanely fragile."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction to Ideal Client Clarity01:00 - Surprise Discussion Topic with Ryan Deiss03:33 - Examining Marketing Shifts in High-End Brands07:39 - Historical Advertising Tactics and Brand Evolution10:12 - Practical Tips on Segmenting Your Audience15:34 - The Significance of Testing in Marketing18:18 - Direct Response Advertising in High-End Markets21:24 - Chanel's Marketing Strategy Analyzed23:59 - Framework for Assessing Marketing Impact25:24 - Closing Remarks on Testing and Brand IntegrityCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier dive into the importance of community, especially for entrepreneurs. They discuss the transformational power of getting together in person and how masterminds and advisory boards can significantly impact your business growth. From discussing large-scale entrepreneurship conferences to exploring the nuances between boards of directors and advisory boards, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge on scaling your business through strategic networking.Highlights:"Something changes when you're actually there in person; you're missing out if you don't have that kind of community.""The magic isn't having a board of directors; it's about having peers that guide you.""You definitely do better when you have a board of directors, but it's hard to find peers to do that.""Masterminds accelerate your connectivity much more than anything else you could do."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction and the importance of in-person meetings.00:44 - Welcome to Business Lunch Podcast.03:11 - The impact of COVID-19 on business networking.06:18 - Insights into joining paid groups and the value of exclusivity in networking.10:55 - Differences between various advisory and directors groups.17:13 - Personal experiences with masterminds and advisory boards.23:57 - The concept of a 'deconstructed board' and personalized advice networks.28:11 - Closing thoughts on choosing the right type of advisory setup for your needs.33:05 - Episode wrap-up and invitation to the next episode.CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In today's discussion, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive into the nuances of the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement. They explore the philosophy behind early retirement, the potential pitfalls of extreme frugality, and the importance of balancing financial planning with enjoying life in the present. The conversation offers valuable insights on how to approach financial independence without sacrificing the joy of living.Highlights:"Life is short and life is long—you never know which it's going to be.""What are you retiring to? The most miserable people are those who retire into nothing.""You can have both—financial independence and a rich life.""Don't defer joy; balance your financial goals with living fully today."Timestamps:00:00 - Core Belief of FIRE01:03 - Introducing Retirement02:37 - FIRE Variations08:26 - Risks of Deferring Life Events11:13 - Balancing Financial Goals and Enjoyment13:49 - Having Children and FIRE18:16 - Advice on How to Do FIRE Right20:47 - Importance of Meaningful Work25:27 - Dangers of Retiring from Hate27:34 - Conclusion and Wrap-upCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss have a discussion about the genius behind Duolingo's marketing strategies. From the brand's bold use of emotional blackmail to keep users engaged to the fine line between effective persuasion and manipulation, this conversation unpacks the lessons that all marketers can learn. Discover how to balance brand personality, customer retention, and ethical marketing, with insights drawn from one of the most successful language learning platforms in the world.Highlights:"The best marketers and businesses lead, even when it means taking arrows.""Is it unethical to manipulate your audience if it serves their best interests?""Duolingo's brilliance lies in making you feel like you've failed – in the best way.""A brand's personality can make or break its connection with customers."Timestamps:00:00 The Power of Leadership in Marketing01:04 Welcome and Catch-Up02:09 Duolingo's Unique Brand Personality05:35 The Ethics of Manipulative Marketing10:16 The Fine Line Between Encouragement and Manipulation16:08 Defining Success for Your Customers20:37 Guilt and Shame in Marketing24:47 Earning the Right to Push Your Customers29:14 Differentiating Your Brand's Personality35:45 Applying Duolingo's Tactics to Your BusinessCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss the real-life challenges of entrepreneurship, personal growth, and finding that elusive work-life balance. They emphasize the importance of maintaining non-work activities for a fulfilling life. Discover practical strategies for financial resilience, the power of fresh perspectives in business, and the myth of work-life balance. Tune in for an honest conversation that goes beyond the usual “everything's great” facade and provides actionable advice for thriving in both business and life.Highlights: "Anybody who, when you ask them like, 'Oh, how's it going?' If they're always like, 'great,' you're probably not that close to them.""It's very possible to be self-employed or start a business from scratch and still have a family life. You will work differently than a nine to five typical job.""There's a big difference between being an entrepreneur and being self-employed. You have to be responsible for the allocation of your time."Timestamps:00:00 - Real Talk on Entrepreneurship00:18 - Reflecting On New Year's Resolutions01:14 - Honest Conversations02:10 - Cash Reserves Strategy03:31 - Operating Expenses Reserve06:26 - Andy Jassy's Leadership at Amazon09:10 - Setting a Rallying Theme11:07 - Metrics and Goals12:34 - Work-Life Balance Myth15:27 - Time Management for EntrepreneursCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, we're looking back at some of Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss' discussions. They cover the Hermes anti-trust allegations, Alex Hormozi's content creation experiment, and Jeff Bezos' thoughts on the myth of work/life balance and how it could be harmful to workers and business owners alike.Highlights:"Jeff Bezos says that work life balance is a “debilitating phrase” and that work and life are actually a circle."“It's actually significantly less expensive to buy a Birkin in Hermes than it is to buy one on the secondary market."“The grind of going out there and producing tons and tons of content just to grow the audience. If you're doing this as a business owner, not as a celebrity, not as an entertainer, if you're doing this to grow your business brand, it just wasn't worth it.”Timestamps:00:00 - Intro00:15 - Discussing the Hermes Birkin Bag Lawsuit01:43 - Analyzing the Legality of Hermes' Sales Practices04:46 - Alex's Shift to Educational Content05:45 - The Challenges of Chasing Views vs. Quality07:22 - Turning Off Alex's Content Due to Irrelevance08:52 - Bezos on Work-Life Balance as a "Debilitating Phrase"09:12 - Bezos' Perspective on Work and Life as a "Circle"CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss key strategies for maximizing business efficiency and fostering innovation. Drawing lessons from Amazon's turnaround under Andy Jassy, they explore actionable insights that can be applied to businesses of all sizes, from small startups to large enterprises. Tune in to learn about the importance of process mapping, streamlining operations, and balancing innovation with operational efficiency to drive profitability and growth.Highlights:"What gets measured gets managed—if you don't know the process, you can't improve it.""The CEO at scale is fundamentally the chief communications officer.""You can optimize only after you visualize; mapping out your processes is the first step to improvement.""Creating a safe space for employee ideas is crucial for fostering an innovative company culture."Timestamps:00:00 - The Importance of Process Mapping for All Business Sizes01:03 - Case Study: Amazon's Turnaround04:42 - Streamlining Operations07:08 - How to Access Resources on BPO10:24 - The Role of CEOs in Quality Control and Oversight16:09 - Encouraging Innovation Among Employees18:39 - Business Strategies in a Post-Pandemic World22:19 - Personal Touch in Leadership During Transition Periods27:23 - Communicating Effectively as a CEO 32:37 - ConclusionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss tackle the controversial topic of 'shadow standards' in the workplace. They explore the ethics and implications of employees outsourcing their own jobs to other workers, often in other countries, without their employers' knowledge. The discussion touches on the legal, ethical, and practical ramifications of this growing trend and offers insights into how both employees and employers can navigate this complex landscape.Highlights:"Employees are outsourcing their jobs, effectively becoming mini-agencies themselves.""Is it deceptive if you wouldn't proudly announce what you're doing?""Good employers will always support efficiency and innovative ideas.""Outsourcing your job without transparency is setting yourself up for liability."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction 01:12 - The Great Resignation and Quiet Quitting02:49 - Ethical Dilemma: Outsourcing Personal Jobs05:30 - Employer Perspective on Shadow Standards08:49 - Legal and Security Implications12:19 - Hypocrisy and Exploitation in Shadow Work14:41 - Building a Team Ethically and Transparently18:35 - Crucial Policies and Handbook Updates20:31 - Encouraging Transparent Efficiency23:02 - The Problem with Shadow Work24:37 - The Value of High-Level Employees30:55 - Conclusion and TakeawaysCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss essential strategies for businesses to not just survive but thrive during economic downturns. They cover topics such as diversifying revenue streams, reducing debt, leveraging AI, and much more to ensure your business remains resilient and profitable.Highlights:"Investing in technology can cut costs and boost efficiency.""Strengthen your customer relationships; they're your most valuable asset.""Always be upskilling your employees to enhance their value."Timestamps:00:00 - Diversifying Revenue Streams: The Smart Way01:17 - Introduction and Current Business Climate02:28 - Economic Shifts and Business Adjustments05:00 - Indicators of Economic Recession06:14 - Building Cash Reserves for Stability08:08 - Reducing Debt to Free Up Cash Flow10:14 - Reassessing and Prioritizing Expenses17:11 - Leveraging AI for Cost Reduction18:54 - Upskilling Employees for Greater Efficiency27:41 - Acquisitions as Growth OpportunitiesCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Frustrated your marketing isn't working? Stuck wondering why customers aren't clicking "buy now"? Imagine turning that around in just five minutes. Get the help you need to clarify your message and grow your business with our free 5 Minute Marketing Makeover video series. Get immediate access to the 5 Minute Marketing Makeover video series at 5MinuteMarketingMakeover.com.   Have you ever wondered how to scale and sell your business? Many entrepreneurs struggle with scaling their operations or knowing the right time to exit. Without a plan, moving from a small to a mid-sized business is tough. And the complexities of scaling and selling can feel overwhelming. That's why a lot of business owners end up hitting a wall. So what's the secret to growing your business and making a profitable exit?   In this week's episode, host Donald Miller sits down with Ryan Deiss, CEO of Digital Marketer and author of Get Scalable. Ryan shares how he went from starting businesses to buying them, and gives practical tips on how to make your businesses more appealing to buyers. You'll also gain insight on the importance of a solid operating system and the benefits of partnering with experienced investors. Listen in for invaluable acquisition strategies for business owners at any stage!   For your free copy of Get Scalable, go to GetScalable.com/Free.   --   STUCK TRYING TO GROW YOUR BUSINESS? SUBMIT YOUR QUESTION FOR A CHANCE TO HAVE DON COACH THROUGH IT ON THE SHOW: BusinessMadeSimple.com/Podcast    ORDER COACH BUILDER, DON'S NEW BOOK, AND TRANSFORM YOUR EXPERTISE INTO A LUCRATIVE CONSULTING CAREER: CoachBuilderBook.com/Podcast   IF YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT IMPLEMENTING A PLAN TO GROW YOUR BUSINESS AND REVENUE, FLIGHT SCHOOL IS FOR YOU! JOIN NOW: SmallBusinessFlightSchool.com.   FIND AND FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: Instagram.com/BusinessMadeSimple