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Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss crack open the 2025 Forbes 400 and spot a seismic shift: 71% are now self-made, the cutoff is a record $3.8B, and the newest entrants aren't entertainers or app celebrities—they're infrastructure builders (data labeling, energy export, freight platforms, drive-thru formats). The guys lay out a practical framework—B.O.T. (Bottlenecks, Order Flow, Tools)—to find, buy, and scale the “unsexy” choke points where outsized wealth is created. Expect candid takes on ethics and regulation, tax advantages vs. complexity, and why tech alone isn't a moat in the AI era.Key TakeawaysQuiet wealth > spotlight wealth: New billionaires control choke points (permits, labeled data, logistics, power access) instead of chasing virality.Tech isn't the moat—distribution is: If you're just a feature, the platform will build you tomorrow. Own users, data, or order flow.B.O.T. framework:Bottlenecks — Find scarce inputs (power near substations, HIPAA-grade data, specialized trades), professionalize small operators, exit to strategics.Order Flow — Aggregate fragmented brokers (freight, dirt hauling, niche staffing), add AI matching, monetize spread & float.Tools — Bundle niche AI/DevOps tools (monitoring, RLHF QA, rights mgmt.) into suites; sell shovels for the gold rush.Ethics & risk: Bottlenecks ≠ monopolies; add real value or get routed around. Order-flow plays invite regulatory heat—design accordingly.Luck favors the paranoid: Nvidia's rise = timing + category choice. Choose your competitor carefully; it defines your playing field.Episode Highlights00:00 – Cold open: dentists, numb faces, and a record-breaking Forbes 400.03:10 – The stat no one's talking about: 71% self-made, $6.6T total wealth, $3.8B cutoff.08:20 – Why opportunity has more leverage than ever (AI + democratized tools), but tech alone won't save you.12:45 – B is for Bottlenecks: picks & shovels thinking; mini-moats in permits, medical transcripts, underground tank installers for data centers.22:10 – Ethics check: bottlenecks vs. monopolies; how to add value without getting regulated to death.27:05 – O is for Order Flow: Robinhood's play, freight/dirt broker roll-ups, AI pricing/matching, monetizing spread & float.36:40 – The toll-booth trap: if you don't add value, the sides will route around you.41:30 – T is for Tools: why toolmakers outlive trends; bundling niche AI devtools; the Nvidia, Intel, AMD cautionary tales.53:10 – Choosing competitors = choosing categories; luck + timing still matter.57:45 – Operator wrap: how to map your business to B.O.T. this quarter.Memorable Quotes“If all you are is a feature, you don't have a business—you have a countdown clock.”“Quiet wealth lives in the choke points everyone else ignores.”“Bottlenecks aren't monopolies—create value or the market will route around you.”“Tech isn't a moat. Users, data, and distribution are.”Mentioned in This EpisodeForbes 400 (2025): $6.6T total; $3.8B entry; 71% self-madeCategories: Data labeling (Surge AI), LNG export...

Ian Garlic is the Founder of Garlic Marketing, the brand behind Video Case Story, where they help brands with the strategy and goals for video case stories. Ian is also the Founder of StoryCrews, a company that helps businesses connect with top-rated videographers and market and expand their brand through powerful stories captured on video. He also runs and hosts his podcast, the Garlic Marketing Show, and has featured amazing guests such as Gary Vaynerchuk, Neil Patel, Ryan Deiss, and many more.In this episode…In a world where attention spans are shrinking, some businesses are still converting long-form viewers into loyal, high-ticket clients. How are they doing it? What makes one brand's YouTube presence a 24/7 salesperson while others struggle to stand out in the algorithm?According to Ian Garlic, a top video marketing strategist and creator of the “YouTube Closer” system, success stems from understanding how modern buyers make decisions long before they ever talk to sales. He highlights that people now “binge” research — watching videos, case stories, and testimonials until they feel personally connected to a brand. By combining authentic storytelling with optimized video strategy, businesses can pre-sell prospects, build trust at scale, and close deals faster.In this episode of Truth About Social Ads, host Jason Smith sits down with Ian Garlic, Founder of Video Case Story, to discuss how to build a YouTube “closer” that turns viewers into high-value clients. They explore the psychology of lurking buyers, the four essential videos that drive conversions, and why storytelling outperforms sales scripts. Ian also shares how AI and authenticity will shape the future of video marketing.

In this week's episode of Business Lunch, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss continue breaking down the “Bottlenecks” framework—the 11 proven playbooks that billionaires use to grow, protect, and multiply wealth.From AI-driven acquisitions to tax-optimized exits, this conversation dives into the strategies that separate ordinary entrepreneurs from long-term empire builders. You'll hear how the world's wealthiest think about capital allocation, scaling “boring” businesses, and structuring companies for massive, tax-efficient exits.Whether you're scaling your first venture or managing a growing portfolio, this episode is a tactical deep dive into how to think—and act—like a billionaire.Key Takeaways • Tech Is Not a Moat: With AI making innovation easy to copy, your real advantage is distribution and users. • The QSBS Advantage: How the Qualified Small Business Stock exemption can eliminate up to $10M (or more) in capital gains per shareholder. • DAFs & Charitable Strategy: Donor Advised Funds can combine tax savings with long-term impact—if structured correctly. • Boring Businesses, Billionaire Results: Logistics, energy, and real estate can quietly create generational wealth when value is added and scaled. • Capital Cycling: Why the world's best investors (like Blackstone and Berkshire) act like banks—recycling capital and compounding returns.Episode Highlights [00:02:00] – Why tech is easy to copy—and why users, not code, create real enterprise value. [00:10:00] – The billionaire tax play: how QSBS and DAFs legally minimize or eliminate capital gains. [00:18:00] – When to start thinking about tax strategy (hint: usually not before $10M net worth). [00:25:00] – Logistics, land, and “boring” businesses that create quiet fortunes. [00:33:00] – The ESG arbitrage: adding sustainability to raise valuations. [00:40:00] – Network effects and marketplace rollups: creating compounding flywheels. [00:55:00] – The rise of “edge retail”: micro-brands, coffee chains, and inversion models that scale fast. [01:05:00] – Capital cycling and other people's money (OPM): how billionaires play the funding game.Memorable Quotes“If all you are is a feature that someone else could build, you don't have a business—you have a countdown clock.”“Boring businesses aren't boring when they compound quietly into billions.”“It's not what you make—it's what you keep.”“Billionaires don't think like operators; they think like capital allocators.”Mentioned in This EpisodeQualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) – U.S. tax exemption strategyDonor Advised Funds (DAFs) – Philanthropic and tax planning vehiclesRoss Perot Jr. – Logistics real estateDutch Bros – Scalable retail model exampleBlackstone & Berkshire Hathaway – Capital cycling and compounding modelsListen If You'reA founder or investor learning to structure smarter deals.A CEO or operator ready to scale beyond execution into capital allocation.A strategic thinker who wants to play the long game in business and wealth creation.ConnectHosts: Roland Frasier & Ryan DeissPodcast: Business Lunch with Roland FrasierMore at: businesslunchpodcast.comMentioned in this episode:Join Roland & Ryan at Get Scalable LiveIf you're a founder, CEO, or operator running a 7- or 8-figure business, Get Scalable Live was built for you. This is not your typical business event. It's 3 days of hands-on strategy, real-world frameworks, and next-level networking with the smartest operators in the game.

In this episode of Business Lunch, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss explain how the classic four-stage buying journey has collapsed into one moment—and why trust is the lid that keeps prospects “popping” in your pot. They unpack three forms of trust—Identity, Competence, and Proximity—with sharp wins and public flops (Nike, Sephora, Peloton, DSW, Starbucks, Apple, United). You'll get simple creative frameworks to turn short-form content into instant, in-channel conversions and a 14-day sprint to prove it on a small budget.Highlights“It's not a funnel anymore—it's a popcorn popper. Your audience are kernels heating at different speeds. Trust is the lid that keeps them popping for you.”“Competence trust means the brand ‘gets me'—often better than I can describe myself.”“Employees outperform celebrities for reach and credibility—because most buyers are employees.”“Frictionless is forgettable. Add desirable friction that helps buyers name their pain and act.”“If you can't pivot your model, bolt trust into your media: mirror-micro-media, why-what-where, people-place-proof.”Mentioned in This EpisodeThree Trust Types (MAP mnemonic):M – Identity trust: Mirror → Micro → MediaA – Competence trust: “Answer” with Why → What → WhereP – Proximity trust: People → Place → ProofCompetence wins & misses: Nike's “Why do it?” repositioning; Sephora tutorials lifting AOV; Peloton's 2019 holiday ad backlash.Proximity plays: DSW AR try-ons; Starbucks barista TikToks; Apple retail specialists; cautionary tale—United Airlines viral incidents.Localization tactics: regional currency/sites, geo-specific visuals (city skylines), and micro-influencers by market.KPI effects: higher AOV/retention/loyalty from competence; higher LTV from proximity; employee posts driving outsized reach.Timestamps00:00 – The collapsed customer journey: from funnel to popcorn popper (trust as the lid)04:00 – Recap: Identity trust (mirror, micro, media)—and why episodes stand alone but compound07:30 – Competence trust: the brand that “gets me” (Nike shift, Sephora demos) + Peloton misread14:20 – Framework for competence: Why → What → Where (myth-bust, demo, direct CTA)17:30 – Example: 30-sec tax advisory myth-buster → LinkedIn/Reels → consult link → track AOV20:10 – Proximity trust: employees, in-place context, show real proof (DSW AR, Starbucks, Apple)24:10 – Employee content > celebrity polish; make it authentic, even shot on phone26:00 – 14-day Trust Sprint and MAP recap; why proximity is overlooked yet most scalableTakeaways for OperatorsStop chasing linear funnels; engineer trust in-channel so action can happen immediately.Use Why → What → Where to collapse steps: name the pain, show the fix, drop the link.Turn staff into a media network: People → Place → Proof with incentives and simple tracking.Localize by currency, domains, visuals, accents, micro-influencers—it quietly multiplies conversion.Run a 14-day sprint: baseline CAC/AOV → recruit 3 customers + 3 insiders → record shorts →...

Barry Kleiman is the Founder, Executive Mentor, and Workshop Leader at Barry C. Kleiman & Associates, a firm he established in 1979 to help executives and teams elevate performance through leadership development and coaching. With over four decades of experience, Barry has guided leaders across industries in improving communication, alignment, and results. He is the author of The Playground Principles™: Why Connection Still Matters, a book that draws on stories from leaders and athletes to explore lessons on trust, consistency, and connection.  Jason Smith is the Owner and CEO of Spotlight Social Advertising, a company that specializes in helping businesses grow and scale with Facebook and Instagram ads. He is also the host of The Truth About Social Ads, where he interviews guests from all corners of the digital marketing landscape. Before founding his company in 2016, Jason spent 14 years in uniform with the LAPD and later started a side gig helping people with their online traffic, advertising, and Facebook ads, which became his core business. He then left the police department permanently to focus on Spotlight Social Advertising. Zach Wilcox is the Founder and CEO of Fide Freight, a representative logistics solution providing a full range of services in long and short-distance freight, specialty haulage, and management of dry freights. Zach and his team pride themselves on complete transparency and communication, from bringing on a client to getting the shipments completed on time. Before founding Fide Freight, Zach held project management, operations, and manufacturing roles across different companies. He has a business degree from Grand Valley State University. Ian Garlic is the Founder of Garlic Marketing, the brand behind Video Case Story, where they help brands with the strategy and goals for video case stories. Ian is also the Founder of StoryCrews, a company that helps businesses connect with top-rated videographers and market and expand their brand through powerful stories captured on video. He hosts the Garlic Marketing Show podcast and has featured amazing guests such as Gary Vaynerchuk, Neil Patel, Ryan Deiss, and many more. In this episode… What do successful leaders, entrepreneurs, and creators all have in common? They're constantly seeking tools and ideas that help them connect better — with others, their teams, and themselves. But in a world of endless options, how do you know which books, podcasts, or habits actually move the needle? For today's guests, the answer starts with curiosity and connection. They share how leadership lessons from sports, creativity, and business mentorship continue to shape their personal and professional growth. From refining time management to building resilience and embracing storytelling, each guest emphasizes the importance of learning from experience and surrounding yourself with inspiration that drives both action and reflection. In this episode of the Inspired Insider Podcast, Dr. Jeremy Weisz talks with Barry Kleiman, Jason Smith, Zach Wilcox, and Ian Garlic about the books, podcasts, and tools that influence how they lead and live. They discuss how reading fuels creativity, why discipline and mindset are essential to growth, and how digital tools can help organize ideas and inspire innovation.

In this episode of the Business Lunch podcast, Host Roland Frasier and guest Richard Lindner break down the subscription trap and why recurring revenue isn't always the ultimate solution it's made out to be.From the outside, subscription models look like a dream: predictable cash flow, higher valuations, and a business that doesn't start at zero each month. But as Roland and Richard reveal, the reality can be far more complicated.They dive into real stories from their portfolio companies, showing how recurring revenue can backfire through hidden churn, customer support debt, and endless innovation demands. You'll hear how even big players like Netflix constantly battle to keep customers engaged, and why smaller businesses often underestimate the true cost of service.This episode is a must-listen if you're considering shifting to a subscription model—or if you've already launched one and want to make sure it's sustainable.HIGHLIGHTS“Recurring revenue is great… until you're losing more members each month than you know how to gain.”“There's voluntary churn, where people cancel. But the killer is involuntary churn—declined payments, expired cards—that can quietly eat your business alive.”“If you're creating content subscriptions, pair them with community. Access is the real value that keeps people sticking around.”“Don't fall in love with the model. Define your business by who you serve, not just how you charge.”Mentioned in this EpisodeThe difference between breakage vs. consumption models (think Netflix vs. gym memberships)Why AI in customer support is changing the economics of subscription businessesHow to tell if your business should pursue a bolt-on subscription or avoid it altogether

Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss break down the “loyalty illusion”—why points and perks often backfire, how spreadsheet thinking killed customer love, and a practical framework to audit or rebuild a program that actually increases retention, spend, and referrals.What you'll learnWhy “loyalty penalties” drive your best customers awayThe airline/credit-card miles economics—and how devaluation erodes $25B in perceived valueThe 5-Question Loyalty Audit (value, simplicity, frequency of wins, emotion vs. switching cost, financial sanity)What great looks like: status, access, and convenience (not discounts)A 7-step roadmap to design (or reset) your programTimestamps00:00 Cold open: founders' meeting recap, wine cellar banter02:05 The hook: the “loyalty illusion” and why consumers feel trapped05:20 Consumer POV: when complexity makes customers give up08:10 Finance-driven devaluation: how “pencil-whipping” kills goodwill09:45 Airlines > miles > credit cards: the $25B machine and breakage12:40 From distance flown to dollars spent: fallout and backlash15:05 “Loyalty penalty”: new-customer offers vs. existing customers16:50 The 5-Question Loyalty Audit (red flags & benchmarks)19:30 Simplicity wins: JetBlue/Southwest lessons (and where they slipped)22:15 Frequency of wins: Starbucks habit loop vs. margin compression25:20 Luxury model: status & access (Hermès, Four Seasons, 100 Acre)28:40 Access > discounts: Wynn Private Access, line-skip convenience31:10 Choosing your currency: points, status, experiences (Sephora case)34:35 Setting earn ratios: 2–5% cost with outsized perceived value37:10 Tiering for aspiration: Prime renewals, why Amazon is an outlier39:20 7-Step Roadmap: objective → currency → earn ratio → tiers → early wins → daily integration → quarterly audits43:30 Operator action items; consumer playbook (negotiate, switch, diversify)46:10 Ultimate test: does your program create love—or hostages?47:40 Closing thoughts & invitations to share experiencesTakeawaysDiscounts train delay; access creates desire.If

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive into the emerging trend of rolling up traditional businesses and supercharging them with AI. They discuss the opportunities and pitfalls of this strategy, offer advice for old-school business owners, aspiring platform companies, and investors, and share real-world examples of value creation through AI integration. This episode is perfect for entrepreneurs, business owners considering acquisitions, and anyone curious about the intersection of AI and business growth.Highlights:"Roll ups fail at the integration level, and the integration is really what systems do we have to do that?""If you don't invest in up-leveling and AI-fying your business now, you'll be acquired on the cheap.""The basic building blocks of why you would do a roll up, applied with AI and tech, make perfect sense to me.""If you're planning on just shutting it down or letting it die a slow and profitable death, then cool. But if it's longer than that, you either have to get on the bus or face being put out of business."Timestamps:00:00 Introduction04:15 AI and Roll-Ups: Success and Failure 07:16 Advice for Old-School Businesses 10:30 Investor Strategy and Execution 16:05 Management and Systems for Roll-Ups 17:56 Investor Strategy: Mergers and Acquisitions 20:52 Value Addition through AI CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive into the real challenges facing small and medium-sized businesses today, cutting through the marketing spin of industry reports. If you're a business owner, entrepreneur, marketer, or anyone interested in practical strategies for growth, customer acquisition, and leveraging AI, this episode is for you. Tune in for candid insights, actionable advice, and a few laughs along the way.Highlights:“I've never once in my entire life heard a small business owner use the word ‘resilience.'”“If your offer is confusing, it's not going to work, simplicity wins right now.”“AI is the single biggest disruptive event any of us have ever experienced.”“Let people buy the way they want to buy.”Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:36 – Salesforce Report: Hype or Help?03:57 – Do Business Owners Really Say ‘Resilience'?05:14 – AI Adoption: Fear of Losing the Human Touch07:38 – What Are the Real Top Challenges?11:07 – How Macroeconomics Impact Sales15:23 – Simplifying Offers for Better Results17:41 – Creating a ‘Happening' to Re-Engage Customers21:05 – AI-ifying Your Business: Pivot or Perish28:04 – Acquisitions: The Private Equity Playbook for SMBsCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch!In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive into "the great flattening"—the radical shift where AI enables entire departments, and even companies, to be run by a single person. They explore real-world examples from tech and traditional industries, discuss the risks and rewards of this new model, and offer practical advice for leaders and entrepreneurs. If you're a business owner, manager, or anyone interested in the future of work, this episode is for you!Highlights:"What if the highest performing marketing team at your company was actually just one person?""AI is compressing entire departments into individual 'departments of one.'""The coordination tax is the overhead of meetings, getting along, and not getting along.""This may be the end of the middle manager and the rise of the player-coach."Timestamps:01:41 – Introducing "The Great Flattening" Concept02:30 – WhatsApp: $345M Value Per Employee03:30 – Midjourney & Cursor: Creative and Dev Pancakes07:21 – The Coordination Tax Explained11:18 – Team Size, Efficiency, and the Two Pizza Rule14:25 – AI Agents Replacing Marketing Teams22:35 – Risks of Single-Person Departments26:53 – The End of Middle Management?37:19 – The Pancake Test: Is Your Department "Pancakeable"?54:20 – Digital Marketer's Department of One Beta ProgramCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the importance of taking real vacations as entrepreneurs and business owners. They share personal stories about extended time off, discuss the dangers of burnout, and offer practical advice on setting boundaries and making rest a non-negotiable part of your business life. The conversation covers how stepping away can reset your habits, boost creativity, and ultimately make you more productive and fulfilled. This episode is a must for entrepreneurs, business owners, solopreneurs, and anyone feeling overwhelmed by their work. If you struggle to take time off, feel burned out, or want to learn how rest can actually help your business thrive, this conversation is for you.Highlights:“You have to not let your work schedule bully you.”“Burnout happens when you run out of options and get super hyper resentful of the business.”“Rest is work. You actually are more productive when you take some time off.”“If you're in a state of extreme burnout, before you do something drastic, take at least one week off.”Timestamps:00:00 - Returning from Vacation: Setting the Stage00:38 - The Value of a 30-Day Break00:54 - Off-Peak Living and Family Scheduling03:55 - Work Expands to Fill Your Time07:18 - There's Never a Perfect Time for Vacation0:09:22 - Burnout and Resentment: The Real Cost0:10:54 - Teams vs. Solopreneurs: The Vacation Impact14:11 - Why Your Business Exists to Serve You19:18 - Staycations and Non-Negotiable Time Off21:58 - Advice for Burnout: Take a Break Before QuittingCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Join Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss on another exciting episode of "The Business Lunch Podcast." In this installment, they follow up on their recent conversation about the book launch of Roland's "Business Wealth Without Risk" with Jay Abraham. Surprisingly, neither "Business Wealth Without Risk" nor Ryan's book, "Get Scalable," were co-authored by both of them, and they discuss why that is. They delve into the unique approach they're taking with their book launches, which is focused on generating deal flow and carving out a distinct space in the business operating system world.Discover how they're intentionally avoiding the typical book launch strategy and aiming to engineer word-of-mouth referability for their books.Don't miss this episode, where Roland and Ryan provide insights into their innovative book launch tactics and strategies.HIGHLIGHTS"The goal of the book is not to write a book that gets bought. It's not to write a book that gets read. It's to write a book that gets referred." "You can eat your cake and have it too because all the things that you said help all of that experience of having an actual business relationship really lets you see a lot more about somebody." "It's not given away for free because free typically is valued at nothing or less by people. The price people pay, right? Who don't pay for it." TIMESTAMPS00:00: Introduction01:49: Writing with a partner07:27: Monetizing content 12:17: Branding16:55: Book Marketing 19:30: Non-traditional launch strategies24:53: Referral TacticsCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES: • 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch. In this episode, Ryan Deiss and I dive deep into the art of creating effective offers and adapting sales strategies for different business models. From navigating the challenges happening because of rising ad costs to understanding the nuances of sales motions, we share valuable insights and practical tips. Whether you're selling high-ticket items or aiming to optimize online conversions, this episode is packed with advice to help you convert successfully .Highlights:"Sales motion impacts offer structure.""You've got to say at what point in this process do we get agreement on the problem? Because there's got to be problem agreement before anything else.""If you can understand levels of awareness, you understand probably 80% of what you need to know to be really good at sales and marketing."Timestamps:00:00 - Problem Agreement04:05 - Shifting Sales Strategies05:07 - Sales Motion and Offer Structure07:30 - Ad Cost Challenges10:00 - Sales Assist and Sales Function11:45 - Levels of Awareness13:20 - Problem Awareness to Solution Awareness14:40 - Crafting Effective Lead Magnets15:50 - Adapting to Market ChangesCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook• Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch, Ryan Deiss and I dissect the recent hype surrounding two new AI-powered gadgets - the Humane AI pen and the Rabbit. Both products promised to revolutionize our lives with features like real-time feedback and enhanced productivity. However, reviews have been scathing, exposing the devices as clunky, unhelpful, and ultimately a letdown. We delve into the challenges of launching new hardware products in a crowded market and explore the dangers of overpromising and failing to deliver, highlighting how a great marketing campaign can backfire if the product itself isn't exceptional.Highlights:"The people are not stupid long term, we're all a little stupid short term from time to time.""It's a game of replacement, not enhancement.""The better you are at marketing, the better your product better be.”Timestamps:00:54 - Introduction02:36 - Memorial Day05:26 - AI Devices and Hype07:17 - The Future of AI Gadgets12:24 - Apple Vision Goggles14:21 - Lessons Learned16:30 - Nobody Wants More Stuff17:32 - Rabbit Using Chat GPT23:10 - Marketing Lessons (and Mistakes)CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook• Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss tackle the controversial topic of 'shadow standards' in the workplace. They explore the ethics and implications of employees outsourcing their own jobs to other workers, often in other countries, without their employers' knowledge. The discussion touches on the legal, ethical, and practical ramifications of this growing trend and offers insights into how both employees and employers can navigate this complex landscape.Highlights:"Employees are outsourcing their jobs, effectively becoming mini-agencies themselves.""Is it deceptive if you wouldn't proudly announce what you're doing?""Good employers will always support efficiency and innovative ideas.""Outsourcing your job without transparency is setting yourself up for liability."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction 01:12 - The Great Resignation and Quiet Quitting02:49 - Ethical Dilemma: Outsourcing Personal Jobs05:30 - Employer Perspective on Shadow Standards08:49 - Legal and Security Implications12:19 - Hypocrisy and Exploitation in Shadow Work14:41 - Building a Team Ethically and Transparently18:35 - Crucial Policies and Handbook Updates20:31 - Encouraging Transparent Efficiency23:02 - The Problem with Shadow Work24:37 - The Value of High-Level Employees30:55 - Conclusion and TakeawaysCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

This might be the best business interview I've done all year. It's one every business owner should hear. In this episode, I sit down with Ryan Deiss—entrepreneur, investor, and founder of DigitalMarketer—who's launched, scaled, and sold 17+ companies. He's not speaking from theory. He's speaking from experience—and sometimes, scar tissue. This isn't just another systems conversation. It's a full-on playbook for building a business that works without you. For founders who feel trapped in their own company… this one hits hard. Here's what you'll take away: Why growth can trap you—and how scale sets you free The “sticky note” method to exit roles without burning the business down How founders become bottlenecks—and why doing less is a leadership skill The scorecard and constraint system Ryan uses to spot bottlenecks before they break your team Why hiring great people won't fix broken systems—and what to do instead How to integrate AI to elevate your team's performance (without replacing them) Why the role you're in now may not be the role your business actually needs The question every founder should ask before they scale—or sell: What's my next job? Freedom doesn't come from more hustle. It comes from better systems, clearer roles, and honest leadership.

Join me for a lively conversation with Ryan Deiss as we unravel the mysteries of influencer marketing. Explore the world of micro-influencers and mega-stars, and discover which path leads to greater marketing success. From the power of niche audiences to the pitfalls of chasing fame, get ready for practical insights and expert advice to level up your influencer game. Tune in for a discussion filled with tips and real-world experiences to guide you through your journey!Highlights:"There's a point where somebody crosses over from influencer to celebrity. You're paying more for reach and giving up actual influence.""As your brand gets bigger, you've got no choice but to go there. It's why big brands do Super Bowl ads—they need the reach.""An authentic endorsement goes a long way. If the influencer genuinely uses and likes your product, it resonates with their audience."Timestamps:01:00 - AMA's Study on Influencer Marketing ROI02:22 - Targeting Micro-Influencers for Specific Products04:44 - Balancing Reach vs. Relevance in Influencer Selection06:06 - Niche Audiences and Higher ROI07:31 - Calculating (ROAS) for Influencer Campaigns08:58 - Famous Celebrities vs. Influencers10:24 - Maximizing ROI with Newsletter Advertising11:51 - The Trade-off Between Fame and Influence13:12 - Multi-Touch Campaigns and Long-Term Influencer Partnerships14:40 - Direct Outreach vs. Using Influencer AgenciesCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

You can build the house, pay the bills, protect and provide—but if your wife doesn't feel seen, and your kids don't feel known, what are you really building? In this episode, Ryan Deiss opens up about the moment his marriage hit a wall… and the quiet heartbreak of realizing he had drifted from the people he loved most. It wasn't burnout. It wasn't failure. It was success without alignment—and the cost of being emotionally absent, even while physically present.   You'll take away: What his wife said that shattered the illusion he was “doing it for the family” How disconnection with his kids crept in while he was busy being “responsible” The family-first calendar ritual that rebuilt trust and rhythm at home Why saying “yes” to golf with his son—and missing a deadline—was a turning point The question he asked his son before college—and the answer that brought him to tears Why presence—not perfection—is what restores closeness in marriage and fatherhood If you're trying to be more than just the guy who gets stuff done…If you want to be the man your wife trusts and your kids remember—

Welcome to a New Episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the world of mergers, acquisitions, and private equity. They share insider strategies for selling your business, from understanding platform vs. tuck-in acquisitions to negotiating multiples and avoiding common pitfalls. Whether you're a founder considering an exit, a business owner curious about private equity, or just looking to maximize your company's value, this conversation is packed with actionable insights..Highlights:"People don't buy services, they buy better versions of themselves.""You want to be the platform company, not the tuck-in acquisition.""Private equity is fishing to avoid a process, don't take the first offer.""The more you prove you can acquire and integrate, the higher your multiple."Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene06:05 Facilitators Appreciation and Round Table Rumble07:09 Discussion on Exits and Private Equity08:57 Understanding Private Equity Deals15:57 Negotiation Strategies and Mistakes to Avoid27:06 Preparing for a Successful Exit33:33 Maximizing Company Value for Acquisition37:37 Current Market Trends and Multiples41:27 Strategic Considerations for Selling Your Business46:09 Navigating Acquisition Offers and Due Diligence01:05:25 Connecting with Potential Buyers and Investors01:07:50 Introducing Deanna Rogers and Closing RemarksCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Ryan Deiss and I delve into the intricate dance between pursuing success and nurturing personal life. As entrepreneurs, the quest for a meaningful legacy often leads us down a path of extremes. We talk about some insights on finding equilibrium amidst the chaos of business growth, family commitments, and personal health. Whether you're scaling the heights of your career or seeking satisfaction in the simple things, this conversation offers valuable perspectives on prioritizing what truly counts.Highlights:"Be intentional about your seasons...that's important.""As long as I'm remembered by the kids, I'm good. It's such an ego thing to me." 3. "Being intentional about what you're doing...you're probably going to be okay." Timestamps:00:00 -Weather & Life's Storms02:22 -The Legacy Question05:55 -Wealth vs. Health07:20 -Entrepreneurial Extremes09:05 -Life's Balancing Act10:00 -Yearly Planning for Balance14:00 -Practical Balance Tips16:02 -Wealth's Diminishing Returns18:08 -100 Million: A Turning Point?20:50 -Legacy's Ephemeral NatureCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! On today's episode, Ryan Deiss unpacks the full story behind his viral “retirement” post, a headline that unexpectedly ignited controversy, curiosity, and massive engagement. He shares the real reason behind DigitalMarketer's major pivot, the behind-the-scenes chaos of a misfired email campaign, and the strategic follow-through that turned a happy accident into one of their most successful promotions ever. If you want to learn how to harness viral attention and turn it into real revenue, this episode is a masterclass in doing exactly that.Highlights: “I'm retiring from digital marketing and taking my company down with me.”“It was a forcing function for me to finally stop doing what I always defaulted to.”“We're not training people anymore. We're training AI.”“The post was an accident. What happened after? That was strategy.”Timestamps: 00:00 From 1999 to Now: A Marketing Journey02:42 The Viral “Retirement” Post05:00 The Unexpected Reactions08:19 Why DigitalMarketer Had to Pivot12:41 Email Chaos Behind the Scenes15:00 Handling a Viral Moment in Real Time20:00 Lessons From the Comments Section24:06 What Ryan Would Do Differently Next Time7:32 The 77% Opt-in Rate Town Hall31:53 Retiring With a Final OfferCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a New Episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the world of mergers, acquisitions, and private equity. They share insider strategies for selling your business, from understanding platform vs. tuck-in acquisitions to negotiating multiples and avoiding common pitfalls. Whether you're a founder considering an exit, a business owner curious about private equity, or just looking to maximize your company's value, this conversation is packed with actionable insights..Highlights:"People don't buy services, they buy better versions of themselves.""You want to be the platform company, not the tuck-in acquisition.""Private equity is fishing to avoid a process, don't take the first offer.""The more you prove you can acquire and integrate, the higher your multiple."Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene06:05 Facilitators Appreciation and Round Table Rumble07:09 Discussion on Exits and Private Equity08:57 Understanding Private Equity Deals15:57 Negotiation Strategies and Mistakes to Avoid27:06 Preparing for a Successful Exit33:33 Maximizing Company Value for Acquisition37:37 Current Market Trends and Multiples41:27 Strategic Considerations for Selling Your Business46:09 Navigating Acquisition Offers and Due Diligence01:05:25 Connecting with Potential Buyers and Investors01:07:50 Introducing Deanna Rogers and Closing RemarksCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this conversation, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss break down one of their favorite business strategies: using partnerships to scale without extra capital or risk. If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or marketer looking to grow your business faster (and smarter), this episode is for you. Roland and Ryan reveal how to create strategic partnerships that can exponentially increase your reach, resources, and revenue without spending a dollar more on ads or infrastructure.Highlights:“If you can't write down the offer in a sentence, it's probably not going to work.”“The best partnerships solve a need for both sides.”“Speed to implementation is everything.”“You get further when you grow together.”Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:54 A Definition of Partnership Marketing04:40 The Difference Between Affiliate and Strategic Partnerships07:30 How to Identify the Right Partners10:45 Crafting a Compelling Partnership Offer15:10 The 9 Core Areas Where Partnerships Can Drive Growth21:03 Example: Scaling a Software Business Without Spending a Dime26:12 The Importance of Speed and Simplicity31:30 Avoiding the Most Common Pitfalls35:58 Final Advice for EntrepreneursCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive into a viral social media post about management strategies that sparked unexpected controversy. If you're an entrepreneur, business owner, or manager looking to understand how to handle viral content and leverage audience reactions, this episode is for you.Highlights:"Love me, hate me. Both are fine. Just pay attention in some way, shape or form.""The world is lacking people with a truly unique point of view who are willing to defend it.""If you're an entrepreneur, you are your company's best spokesperson.""Attention is what everyone wants."Timestamps:00:00 Introducing the Viral Post01:33 Ryan's Newsletter and Content Strategy03:43 Viral Reach and Initial Reactions06:12 Unpacking the Controversial Management Advice10:29 Strategies for Handling Online Criticism12:56 The Power of Standing by Your Unique Perspective17:42 Personal Reflections on Viral Content22:16 Marketing and Content Recycling Strategies27:16 Leveraging Attention and Audience Feedback35:24 Final Insights on Entrepreneurial CommunicationCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to another episode of How I Discovered My Gift with yours truly, David D. Simons. I am honored and delightedand my excited is excitedfor this interview with the Godfather of Marketing, Rich Schefren. Were talking real history here, folks. Rich is the renowned entrepreneur and business strategist who took Agora Financial from 220 million to 1.25 billion in just one year, invented the automated webinar, popularized the VSL, created the lead magnet concept, and was the very first business coach online. Thats rightwere talking about the guy who coached Russell Brunson, Mike Filsaime, Ryan Deiss, Todd Brown, Frank Kern, and so many more.In this conversation, well explore everything from Richs childhoodyes, that includes running with the mafia back in high schoolto how he pinpointed his unique gifts and turned them into unstoppable fuel for success. As Rich says, I wasnt really sure what my gifts were when I was younger but those early experiences set me up for who I am today.So, settle in, grab your favorite note-taking tool, and get ready for a deep dive into gift discovery, business wisdom, and the game-changing insights that propelled Rich to legendary status in the marketing world. Youre in for a treat!

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Join Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss as they discuss tariffs as an opportunity, not a challenge, exploring how businesses can transform potential economic challenges into strategic opportunities. This episode provides a comprehensive guide to navigating trade complexities, offering practical strategies for entrepreneurs to adapt, innovate, and thrive in an uncertain global marketplace.Highlights:"Don't let a good crisis go to waste.""Friction creates opportunities.""This is your competitive moment.""Sometimes better terms are more valuable than better rates."Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:13 Personal Updates and Podcast Setup02:22 Initial Tariff Conversation Begins12:34 Impact on Digital Marketing Agencies15:12 Supply Chain Redundancy Challenges22:56 Tariff Engineering Strategies27:50 Lessons from Pandemic and Economic Changes30:40 Joint Ventures and Local Production33:27 Marketing Bundling Techniques41:12 Final Advice and Entrepreneurial MindsetCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

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Molly Pittman is a bit of a legend in the digital marketing space. Bartender turned marketing intern for Ryan Deiss, turned VP of Marketing for Digital Marketer, turned entrepreneur - Molly's story is an inspiring one. And she flat out knows her stuff!In this episode, we dig into some real gems. We go pretty deep on what's working now on Facebook, but we also talk about the benefits of building an in-house team vs. the benefits of an agency. We discuss entrepreneurial lessons and what life is like in Amsterdam (where Molly currently lives).Here's a look at what we cover:Why being fluid might be the most important entrepreneurial trait...and why it's important for digital marketersWhy curiosity and fascination are crucial in our current marketing landscapeWhat CBO is and how it's impacting Molly's Facebook ad campaigns and what you should do about itWhat the 3 facets of Facebook's new Quality Ranking are and how to optimize your adsHow low quality rankings can dramatically drive up costs or get your ads shut downPlus more

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss explore an innovative "micro ownership" concept that allows teams to bid on improving specific business metrics. The strategy aims to inject entrepreneurial spirit into organizations by giving teams the opportunity to take ownership of key performance indicators, with potential financial rewards tied to their success.Highlights:"We wish that our employees acted more like owners.""It's designed to create this result.""Identify three to five key metrics that directly impact profit.""How do we inject some entrepreneurial life into companies?"Timestamps:00:00 Introducing Micro Ownership03:07 Discussing the Founders' Board Member's Idea06:11 Employees Acting Like Owners07:26 Identifying Profit-Impacting Metrics10:15 Initial Thoughts and Potential Challenges12:20 Developing a Bidding Mechanism14:21 Bonus Distribution and Team Incentives17:47 Potential Consequences for Not Meeting Goals19:24 Maintaining Entrepreneurial Spirit in Growing CompaniesCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the concept of "high agency" - exploring what makes certain individuals stand out in business, how to identify and nurture high agency behavior, and why it matters for organizational success. The conversation ranges from personal anecdotes about challenging workplace norms to a strategic discussion about building innovative teams.Highlights:"The only unacceptable thing is, 'That's just the way it's always been done.'" "If you're butting heads with them because the status quo seems wrong to them, that's an opportunity, not a threat." "I want everybody to know the reason that we do something, the why behind it." "Most tests probably won't work better - that's the whole point of having a control." Timestamps:00:00 Introduction04:41 Defining "High Agency" Concept09:03 Elon Musk as a High Agency Example13:01 The Importance of Good Judgment18:17 Personal Work Histories and Agency22:23 Creating Environments That Foster Agency28:50 Can High Agency Be Taught?32:48 Balancing Testing and Control in Organizations35:45 ConclusionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch with Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss! In this episode, Ryan shares his time blocking strategy, which includes dedicated time for strategy, connecting with team members, deep work, and recovery. They discuss the pros and cons of time blocking and explore alternative approaches like "variable time blocking." This episode is a must-watch for all entrepreneurs.Highlights:"Time blocking is telling your time where to go instead of wondering where it went." "If every hour of every day is blocked in, that's usually a sign that you're probably micromanaging, that you're probably doing too much of the work that your team should be doing." "What gets measured, gets managed." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction02:48 - Explanation of time blocking05:00 - Ryan's strategic time block08:10 - Ryan's team member connection time block11:18 - Ryan's deep work time block14:32 - Roland's perspective on time blocking20:00 - Ryan's flexibility with time blocks22:13 - Suggestions for additional time blocks 25:00 - Roland's approach to becoming a more interesting person29:44 - Importance of maintaining business relationships32:52 - The need for a system to manage your timeCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss strategies for managing overwhelm and maintaining high agency during challenging times, drawing from their personal experiences with issues like a moth infestation, car accidents, and the impact of external factors like tariffs and interest rates on their businesses.Highlights:"Overwhelm is not an acceptable state. I am the agent of change, and I am in control of making this happen." "There are two types of people in this world: those who believe the world happens to them, and those who believe they happen to the world." "Overwhelm is a state of hopelessness, and the solution to it is, hopelessness is not an option." "Don't share this episode with somebody if they're in the midst of this, do go to them. Throw an arm around them and walk within this framework to help them." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction02:46 - The importance of maintaining high agency during challenging times11:38 - Ryan's approach to helping people through difficult situations15:45 - The value of creating an inventory of overwhelming tasks22:06 - The importance of prioritizing and sequencing tasks25:28 - The importance of actively seeking to confirm the impossibility of solutions30:00 - The value of having a supportive partner or peer to navigate through challenges34:02 - The choice to be someone who "happens to the world" rather than someone the world "happens to"37:22 - The importance of providing support and not just offering solutionsMentioned in this episode:Get Roland's Training on Acquiring Businesses!Discover The EXACT Strategy Roland Has Used To Found, Acquire, Scale And Sell Over Two Dozen Businesses With Sales Ranging From $3 Million To Just Under $4 Billion! EPIC Training

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier dive deep into the power of user-generated content (UGC) and how it can transform your marketing efforts. They share their own experiences and strategies for capturing and leveraging compelling customer stories to build brand credibility, drive sales, and foster word-of-mouth marketing.Highlights:"The more people who are talking about you, the better it gets. And this is so mouth at scale, right? And this is exactly it is engineered word of mouth at scale.""Measuring it is big. Incentivizing it is, you know, is important, but if you don't have any right now, yep, go back and tap the list that you have asked them.""The key is just to go out there and start generating them. You'll come up with lots of ways to use it. Once you have it.""Every other marketing channel gets worse at scale. It gets more expensive. It converts less as you widen the top of the funnel."Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction04:18 - The Overlooked Potential of User-Generated Content08:50 - Applying UGC Across Industries12:41 - Timing and Nature of the Ask16:50 - Shifting the Burden with Small Asks20:06 - Tools and Techniques for Capturing Customer Stories22:05 - Overcoming Challenges in Implementation28:23 - Using Customer Stories in Marketing and Sales41:01 - The Power of Word-of-Mouth MarketingCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss the concept of "drift" - the insidious ways in which we can unconsciously veer off course from our goals and aspirations. They explore three types of drift: financial drift, strategic drift, and vision drift, and provide insights on how to consciously shift towards your desired outcomes rather than passively drifting. The conversation covers the importance of habits, the costs and investments required to achieve your goals, and the difference between shifting and drifting.Highlights:"What gets measured gets managed.""If I can only work one hour today, what's the one thing I would do?""The only remedy that I've ever had goes back to the habits. Am I at least behaving like someone who has those things that I want?""I'm going to quit on a good day, and I'm going to quit after I've been trying it for a while."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:22 - The pros and cons of working from home vs. in an office05:00 - National Quitter's Day10:00 - The impact of the holiday break on getting back into the swing of things13:24 - The concept of "drift" and its three deadly forms: financial, strategic, and vision drift18:27 - The "upper limit problem" and self-imposed limits on success23:44 - The importance of habits and their role in achieving your goals30:00 - Investing in your vision37:03 - Examples of consciously shifting away from goals44:48 - The distinction between shift and driftCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss Elon Musk's unique approach to problem-solving, where he reportedly solves his companies' biggest problems in a matter of weeks. They analyze the pros and cons of Musk's leadership style, including his willingness to make tough decisions and the potential impact on employees. The hosts also explore whether this approach can be replicated by other business leaders.Highlights:"He just came in there and went just ape, you know, and kind of gutted everybody who was essentially middle management.""The fundamental job, the single most important job that any CEO has, is determining what is the company's right next thing.""I do love the idea of saying, like, we are going to solve this problem in weeks, to say that every single thing that is our biggest problem can always be solved in a singular week.""If you're a leader, and if you decide that you're going to take on the role of solving a particular problem in your team, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, because, frankly, your people probably are above full capacity already."Timestamps:00:00 - Elon Musk's Approach to Problem-Solving01:20 - Musk's Ability to Solve Problems Quickly03:08 - Identifying the Real Problem07:03 - Feasibility of Musk's Approach09:01 -Downsides of Musk's "Demon Mode"12:38 - The CEO's Role in Determining the Right Next Thing13:40 - Shortening the Unit of Measurement15:00 - Empowering Middle Management20:00 - Communicating the Problem-Solving Approach26:35 - The Sustainability of Elon Musk's ApproachCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Pat Mancuso is the CEO of Mancuso Consulting Group and a highly recognized thought leader dedicated to helping CEOs, business owners, and entrepreneurs maximize their potential through coaching and consulting. Having spent over 30 years working with company owners, leaders, and sales teams, Pat has over 25,000 hours of coaching and consulting experience. As a serial entrepreneur who has launched multiple successful companies, Pat understands how to sustainably scale a business. He helps businesses improve their leadership and performance through a proprietary system, RSTMM® — Recruit, Select, Train, Manage, and Motivate, which enables companies to select, train, manage, and motivate the right people in the right positions.  In this episode… Many entrepreneurs launch their businesses with the end goal of creating wealth and gaining financial freedom. Generating wealth from your business requires strategic planning and calculated operational management. What strategies can you leverage to propel yourself and your business to freedom? Five business builders in various disciplines have created proprietary methods for scaling your company to the next level. B2B podcaster Dr. Jeremy Weisz maintains that by creating a comprehensive referral partner list, reaching out to them, and producing a podcast and other content with them, you can generate substantial ROI. When requesting capital or a business loan, Marc Cove suggests building prior relationships with bankers so you can remain top of mind, while Ryan Deiss highlights setting aside funds to pay taxes and other expenses to maintain long-term sustainability. Business consultant Pat Mancuso emphasizes the importance of conducting due diligence on your future business partners, ensuring skill compatibility and goal alignment. Real estate professional Chris Prefontaine says that the real estate market is ripe for investing, so he recommends developing strategies that can adapt to a changing market. In this special episode of Destination Business Freedom, Pat Mancuso reflects on his most notable podcast episodes. Featuring memorable guests like Ryan Deiss and Chris Prefontaine, these professionals delve into cash flow management, navigating relationships with bankers and business partners, and preparing your business for market fluctuations.

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier discuss a recent article about a CEO who overhauled his company's budgeting process, moving from annual to quarterly cycles and reorganizing teams every 90 days. They explore how this approach could be applied to smaller businesses and share insights from their own "scalable operating system" philosophy.Highlights:"Budgets represent the worst of corporate bureaucracy.""The annual plan is the worst unit of measurement that there is.""Every 90 days, people can flow between teams, money can flow between teams, and you're working on the most important thing for the next 90 days.""The organizational structure is just whatever that structure needs to be to support the goals of the company today."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction05:00 - Comparing the hosts' existing planning process to the quarterly approach08:05 - Pros and cons of quarterly comprehensive company reorganization 12:41 - How a quarterly team-based approach could work for smaller companies15:00 - Determining who should decide the team composition and how20:00 - Outlining the roles of the project lead, core team, and support team25:00 - Discussing the project lead's authority to reprioritize team members27:10 - Identifying the different team categories: core, support, and stakeholders29:31 - Explaining the role of stakeholders in the project review process31:02 - Final thoughtsCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

This episode is from the vault! In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I interviewed Ryan Deiss, a serial entrepreneur, author, and the founder of digitalmarketer.com. Our discussion begins with his latest book, "Get Scalable: The Operating System Your Business Needs to Run and Scale Without You." and pivots to invaluable insights on breaking free from the Founder's Curse and unlocking business value beyond yourself. Key Takeaways Embark on a transformative journey with Ryan Deiss in this Duct Tape Marketing Podcast episode, where he unveils strategies unlock scalable business growth, gain insights into the power of value engines, strategic rhythms, and high-output teams. Learn the art of overcoming founder indispensability, mapping value creation flows, and implementing a meeting rhythm that actually works. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, Ryan's actionable insights will empower you to build a thriving business that stands the test of time. More About Ryan Deiss: Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/ryandeiss/ Visit Scalable.co - scalable.co/ Get a copy of Get Scalable - amazon.com/Get-Scalable-Operating-Business-Without/dp/B0CC46VY9R Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us know what you loved most about the episode. Struggling with strategy? Unlock your free AI-powered prompts now and start building a winning strategy today!

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss discuss the process of setting and achieving ambitious 3-year business goals. They explore overcoming limiting beliefs, building scalable operating systems, and practical strategies for exponential growth. This conversation includes insights into setting audacious targets and evaluating realistic paths to success.Highlights:"Three years is the sweet spot for meaningful but predictable growth.""Pessimists look smart, but optimists get rich.""Audacious goals push you beyond limiting beliefs.""Optionality wins wars and business."Timestamps:00:00 The Power of 3-Year Targets: Why 3 years is ideal for entrepreneurial companies.05:39 Challenging limiting beliefs in business growth.09:40 How internal barriers limit strategic thinking.14:48 Defining what needs to be true for success.20:53 Assessing existing offerings and market positioning.25:45 The importance of targeting your "Goldilocks" client.29:31 Steps to refine realistic paths to growth.33:45 Comparing solutions like raising capital or partnerships.39:06 Streamlining services for focused high-value growth.46:34 Lessons in thinking bigger and maintaining optionality.CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss share insights on the challenges faced during the acquisition and management of the Traffic and Conversion Summit. They discuss the importance of understanding community dynamics versus content value, the pitfalls of corporate decision-making, and how these factors contributed to the event's struggles.Highlights:"If you're going to do acquisitions, you need to be really clear on exactly what it is that you're buying.""The hardest thing in the world to do is to create a place, but you can lose that way faster than it takes to build.""You cannot let bean counters make business decisions." "The consulting firm that advised them not to buy Digital Marketer gave some of the worst advice they probably ever paid for."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:54 - Community vs. Content08:18 - Pre-Pandemic Sales Struggles10:00 - Financial Implications of the Pandemic12:35 - Lessons Learned from the Deal15:30 - Importance of Community Involvement17:00 - Consequences of Poor Marketing Decisions20:15 - The Role of Digital Marketers22:40 - Strategic Partnerships and Growth Opportunities25:00 - Reflections on Corporate Culture28:15 - The Future of Events Post-Pandemic30:40 - Closing Thoughts on Acquisitions37:22 - Episode ConclusionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss cover the story of Traffic & Conversion Summit (TNC), detailing its inception, growth, and eventual sale to Clarion Events. They share personal anecdotes from the journey, discuss strategic decisions that led to the event's success, and reveal the complexities of negotiating a sale. This episode provides a unique look at the behind-the-scenes efforts that transformed a simple event into a major business asset.Highlights:"Our goal is not going to be to make a lot of money. Our goal is going to be to have everybody leave saying, Wow, that was the best event I've ever been to.""It felt like it was getting big and scary. I would have these recurring nightmares of something going wrong at this event.""The reality is, most events suck. They're just a pitch fest.""We controlled the programming of the event. So who's going to be on stage, which meant we still got the benefit of the platform of the event for our other brands."Timestamps:00:00 - Elevating the Event Vision02:31 - Introduction to Traffic and Conversion Summit05:23 - Evolution and Growth of the Event07:52 - Increasing Production Value and Sponsorship Revenue11:59 - Sale of the Event to Clarion Events31:51 - Post-Sale Challenges and Pandemic Impact35:10 - Reasons for the Event's DeclineCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the intricacies of search marketing versus paid media, exploring how marketing strategies have evolved with technological advancements. They discuss the unpredictability of Google updates, the shift towards social platforms by younger demographics, and the importance of adopting a multi-channel approach in today's digital landscape. Tune in as they share insights on the most effective channels for reaching an audience and why owned media might be more crucial than ever.Highlights:"If you're starting from scratch with marketing, it's not search marketing I'd double down on." "The new model for organic reach should include connection, authenticity, and a surround sound strategy across multiple platforms.""People are looking for authenticity and consistency in the personalities they follow, not just content." "As marketing evolves, the channels that once dominated are being overtaken by more agile, targeted, and engaging mediums." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: The Current State of Search Marketing 02:52 - The Inefficacy of Traditional Search for Nationwide Businesses 05:03 - Shifting Priorities: Paid Media vs. Organic Search 08:24 - The Impact of AI and Generational Changes on Search Behavior 11:05 - The Importance of Multi-Channel Marketing Strategies 14:00 - Connection and Authenticity in Content Marketing 17:00 - Discussing Owned Media and Its Advantages Over Organic Search 20:21 - User Experience and the Shift Away from Traditional Search 23:18 - Reddit as an Emerging Search Platform 26:28 - The Role of Specialized Sites and Social Groups in Niche Searches 27:24 - Conclusion: Future Outlook on Search MarketingCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Ryan Deiss shares the best advice on building, managing and scaling in business, that he's learned over 20+ years since launching his first business to growing into a $200M portfolio of 17 businesses.Get in touch with Ryan:Youtube: @RyanDeissOfficialInstagram: @RyanDeissWebsite: Scalable.coWant To Quit Your Job In The Next 6-18 Months Through Buying Commercial Real Estate & Small Businesses?

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this session, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the nuances of building a cohesive leadership team, the importance of clarity days, and the role of personality tests in enhancing team dynamics. They explore strategic exercises that foster better communication and trust among team members. This discussion is packed with actionable advice on handling conflict, aligning team goals, and the significance of understanding individual communication styles within a team.Highlights:"The key is just as a leadership team, you're talking about stuff.""If you haven't done the five dysfunctions, highly recommend it.""Consensus kills because it's everybody basically creating what they call artificial harmony.""Giving people the benefit of the doubt and you will have a happier life and better relationships."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction to Clarity Days and Team Building01:26 - Roland's Hectic Schedule and the Importance of Team Facilitation04:16 - Insights on Personality Tests and Team Dynamics06:36 - The Concept of Clarity Day Explained10:11 - When to Initiate Leadership Exercises in a Company13:24 - The Importance of Asking the Right Questions to Co-founders17:32 - The Role of the CEO in Decision Making and Conflict Resolution20:04 - Building Trust and Understanding within Leadership Teams22:57 - The Importance of Regular Team Meetings and Personal Connections27:29 - The Impact of Personal Wins and Team CohesionCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of the Business Lunch podcast! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the complexities of hiring for executive leadership roles, particularly when you're unfamiliar with the specific function of the role. They discuss practical strategies for identifying and recruiting top talent, leveraging both traditional search firms and AI tools to define roles and refine hiring processes. Whether you're scaling up your business or just starting, this episode offers valuable insights into making strategic hires that align with your company's growth objectives.Highlights:"If you achieve any level of scale, you're going to have to hire people that are truly exceptional at those functional roles that you're not good at." "The very first thing is to determine what is the actual need in the organization and then document what does the person who is going to fill the need look like." "A good search firm is going to help you significantly." "You need to tap an outside expert if you don't know anything about the role." Timestamps:00:01 - Introduction to Executive Hiring Challenges01:01 - Welcome and Recap of Recent Activities01:17 - Post-Event Fatigue and Personal Anecdotes02:02 - Challenges of Attending a Music Festival Post-Business Event03:59 - Transition from Personal Recap to Business Discussions05:11 - Detailed Discussion on Hiring for Unknown Roles08:09 - Identifying Business Needs and Role Requirements11:18 - The Value of Leveraging Search Firms and AI in Hiring15:00 - Discussing Cultural Fit and Defining the Hiring Process20:00 - Effective Interview Techniques and Utilizing AI for QuestioningCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

What if I told you that living an amazing life boils down to just three simple traits? In this episode of The Happy Hustle Podcast, I'm breaking down the concept of PHK, which stands for Positivity, Helpfulness, and Kindness—three attributes that, when embodied, will drastically improve your life in more ways than you can imagine. I first came across this idea from Ryan Deiss, the founder of Digital Marketer. We met at the Traffic and Conversion Summit, and he recently discussed it on the Money Mondays podcast with Dan Fleyshman (shoutout to them!). Ryan shared that PHK is what he teaches his kids to live an amazing life, and let me tell you—it's just as impactful for adults too. First up in PHK is Positivity. And no, this isn't about being unrealistically cheerful 24/7. Positivity is about carrying that light within you, that energy that uplifts everyone around you. It's about gratitude and finding the silver lining, even when things get tough.When you choose positivity, you attract positive opportunities. You inspire those around you. And most importantly, you create a better life for yourself.The second attribute is Helpfulness. If you want to win in life, you have to serve others. Period. Helpfulness is about offering value without expecting anything in return—because good karma always finds its way back. When you help others, you build trust, create connections, and establish strong relationships. Last, but not least, is Kindness. You have the choice to be kind in every interaction. Whether it's a compliment to the grocery store cashier or offering support to a friend in need, kindness is a game-changer. It's more than just making someone's day—it has the power to transform lives.So that's PHK: Positivity, Helpfulness, and Kindness. These three simple yet profound traits are the keys to Happy Hustlin' and living an amazing life. Shoutout to Ryan Deiss for sharing this with me because it's been a game-changer, and I hope it is for you too.If you start embodying these traits today, I guarantee you'll notice the difference. Be positive, be helpful, be kind—and you'll attract more joy, opportunities, and fulfillment.Now get out there and start living your best PHK-filled life!Connect with Cary!https://www.instagram.com/caryjack/https://www.facebook.com/SirCaryJackhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/cary-jack-kendzior/https://twitter.com/thehappyhustlehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFDNsD59tLxv2JfEuSsNMOQ/featured Get a free copy of his new book, The Happy Hustle, 10 Alignments to Avoid Burnout & Achieve Blissful Balance https://www.thehappyhustle.com/bookSign up for The Journey: 10 Days To Become a Happy Hustler Online Coursehttps://thehappyhustle.com/thejourney/Apply to the Montana Mastermind Epic Camping Adventurehttps://thehappyhustle.com/mastermind/“It's time to Happy Hustle, a blissfully balanced life you love, full of passion, purpose, and positive impact!”Episode Sponsor: Magnesium Breakthrough from BiOptimizers (https://bioptimizers.com/happy)If you've been on a restricted diet lately or maybe even taken some meds to shed those pounds for the summer, I gotta warn ya—be careful! You might have unknowingly created a nutrient deficiency that could not only mess with your health but also jeopardize those weight loss goals.Did you know that over 75% of Americans are already deficient in magnesium? Yeah, it's wild! Magnesium is this powerhouse mineral that's involved in over 600 biological reactions in your body. It helps with everything from sleep to stress management to hormone balance—all key players in keeping your weight on track.And if you're still on those meds, you might be dealing with some side effects like sleepless nights, digestive issues, or irritability, which can totally throw off your commitment to your goals. Whether you're taking meds or not, setting up healthy habits is crucial to maintaining your weight over time. One of the best things you can do? Make sure you're getting all the magnesium your body needs.Don't let a magnesium deficiency derail your progress! Give Magnesium Breakthrough by BIOptimizers a shot. Unlike other supplements, this one's got all 7 forms of magnesium that your body can actually absorb, so you get the full spectrum of benefits.This approach will help you crush your goals and maintain a healthy weight while keeping your overall health in check. For an exclusive offer, head to bioptimizers.com/happy and use the promo code 'happy10' at checkout to save 10%. And if you subscribe, you'll snag amazing discounts, free gifts, and a guaranteed monthly supply.

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! Today, we dive into the intriguing dynamics between being in 'founder mode' and 'manager mode' within a business. Our hosts, Ryan Deiss and Roland Frasier, engage in a rich discussion about the challenges and strategies of balancing hands-on leadership with the necessity of delegation as companies scale. They explore insights inspired by Paul Graham's article on 'founder mode' and share real-world experiences that highlight the importance of a hybrid approach to management and leadership.Highlights:"This is not a problem to be solved, this is a tension that needs to be managed." "Nobody cares as much about the company as the founder that created it." "A good founder is a coach to the people they are mentoring." "If you implement just one or two key insights from any of our sessions into your business, you are bound to see a return on investment much higher than what we could ever charge for admission." Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction 04:26 - The scalability and the practicality of a hybrid management mode07:25 - Maintaining company culture and the dangers of founder dependency09:34 - The cyclic needs of a business from founder and manager perspectives12:45 - Shifting from manager to founder mode16:36 - Micromanagement VS empowering employees19:15 - The concept and application of skip-level meetings23:26 - When and how to conduct skip-level meetings effectively27:11 - Avoiding common pitfalls during skip-level meetings29:00 - Final thoughtsCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, hosts Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the nuances of deal-making. They dissect a real-life business deal they're considering, discussing everything from potential conflicts with partners and how to handle equity distribution to the importance of strategic alignment in business ventures. Join them as they provide valuable insights that can help any business owner or entrepreneur looking to expand through acquisitions or partnerships.Highlights:"Opportunities to grow your business come in many forms, whether through acquisition or strategic partnerships." "The potential conflicts and complexities in deals are what make discussing them so beneficial.""Handling equity and understanding everyone's value add is crucial in any business deal.""Every deal has its own challenges and alignment issues, especially when multiple partners are involved."Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction00:58 - Setting the Stage04:09 - Analyzing Deal Conflicts08:11 - Strategic Alignments12:01 - Discussing Partner Contributions17:06 - Equity and Value Discussions22:30 - Practical Examples28:06 - Full-Time Commitment Challenges34:49 - Closing the Deal40:07 - Reflecting on the Deal's ComplexityCONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

Welcome to a new episode of Business Lunch! In this episode, Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss dive deep into the critical role that metrics and scorecards play in managing and growing a business. They explore common pitfalls, such as tracking vanity metrics or setting unclear targets, and share insights on how to build a scorecard system that aligns with your business goals. By keeping it simple and actionable, they reveal how businesses can avoid overwhelm and achieve growth, all while holding teams accountable and driving performance. Whether you're managing affiliates or refining sales processes, this episode offers practical, hands-on advice.Highlights:"Tracking vanity metrics is like driving with the wrong map—you'll never reach your destination.""A great scorecard isn't just about data; it's about telling the story of your business.""A scorecard that's always red is a clear signal: something needs to change.""Keep it simple: The fewer metrics you track, the clearer your business story becomes."Timestamps:00:00 - Tracking the right vs. wrong metrics01:13 - Ryan's water fast experience and its connection to reset habits03:48 - The impact of water fasting on health and mindset07:25 - The importance of downtime for leaders10:10 - The negative effects of tracking the wrong metrics13:30 - The challenges of onboarding affiliates19:11 - Avoiding common scorecard mistakes21:25 - Simplifying the scorecard-building process27:28 - The main purpose of scorecards 31:35 - Resources for building effective CEO scorecards CONNECT • Ask Roland a question HERE.RESOURCES:• 7 Steps to Scalable workbook • Get my book, Zero Down, FREETo learn more about Roland Frasier

As a broke college student, Ryan Deiss met the love of his life, and after two weeks of seeing each other, he decided he wanted to marry her. So, he started a business to save up for their wedding ring! Now, he's with the love of his life and has built a multimillion-dollar business. What a story to tell, am I right? How about you—how far would you go to achieve your goals? --- Ryan Deiss is a top digital marketing expert and founder of Digital Marketer. He's known for his easy-to-understand strategies that help businesses succeed online. With his innovative methods, he has become a leading figure in the marketing world, making him a trusted resource for growing your business. --- Like this episode? Watch more like it