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On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what it really means to make a positive contribution in your life - especially when you're feeling stuck, scared, or like you're falling behind.I share a little bit about working on my memoir and why author Ryan Holiday says that chasing word or page counts can backfire, and how shifting to small, doable daily actions can change everything.We revisit Kaizen (continuous improvement through tiny steps), and I show you how to apply the concept in your writing, money, fitness, relationships, and spiritual practice. It can help even when you only have 5 or 10 minutes!I also pull in some wisdom from the Bhagavad Gita, A Course in Miracles, and some of my favorite teachers to remind you that no sincere effort is ever wasted!If you're tired of your own (or others) “all-or-nothing” thinking and want a more compassionate, sustainable way to grow…Then this episode will help you start making positive contributions today, from exactly where you are and with exactly what you've got to give. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, the creator of WRITE CLUB, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

Big things are on the horizon for Betsy! A book deal, a beach move, a birthday. Tune in to this Q & A to get to know the woman behind The Art of Living Big and The Navigate Method. With lots of laughs and a few tears, this one is a great one to watch or listen to. Check out the video version on YouTube. Transcript:  Welcome to The Art of Living Big, where we explore how to live intentionally and with more joy. I’m Betsy Pake, your host, master, coach, and creator of the Navigate Method. Here to help you listen in to your true desires, elevate your standards, and live life to the fullest. Now, let’s go live big  All right, I’m excited. I’m excited to do this. I’m excited, and Feels very official. actually am, um, nervous, which is weird, ’cause I d- I mean, I’ve had this podcast for how long? Like 10 years. But I’m nervous, because I feel like we’re not… Yeah, we’re not just ask- can’t believe I’m not nervous, but I’m just excited for it. All right, I’m excited too. Okay, so let’s tell everybody who you are that’s listening. So I’m, I’m Joy, and I am Betsy’s ops person, um, her virtual assistant, go-to person hopefully. And, uh, I Yeah. job. It’s been an honor and a privilege to work for someone so innovative and caring and, , I , I can’t say enough good things about Navigate. I’m an No. member myself. I am Yeah. be working for you now years later after I completed the program. But, , I love my job. Yeah. Oh, that makes me happy. And now you can add podcast host Yeah, a resume. I don’t know about that. We’ll see. So this episode is gonna be a little different than typical. My birthday’s next week, which I wanna say, like, I don’t care, whatever, but I do. I think I do kinda care. I think I’ve always tried to not care, but I think it’s kind of fun that my birthday’s next week. , I’ll be 55, and my birthday is on 5/15, and I feel like the numbers are all, like… I feel like it’s kinda magical, and I don’t know why. I’m not, , a numerology buff or anything , but , it just feels like 55 and then this. So I’m excited to kinda do this. And so I thought what we would do is, , we asked on Instagram just for, , questions of what people had. ready. Yeah, and you’ve got them ready. Okay, and then you had some other ones of your s- your own that I don’t necessarily know all of them, , so yeah. So we’ll… we can just dive in and see where the conversation takes us. I know. I’m excited. Okay. So also I wanna say about 5:15, that’s a special number for you, isn’t it? Yeah, well, uh, uh, I think because it’s my birthday, I always am looking for 5:15. Like, I’m always… I think it’s, like, a message from my mom. I do too, because we post your podcast at 5:15. Yeah. Yes, that’s right, yeah. We post it at 5:15 a- on Thursday mornings. Yeah, yeah. That’s, I like it, and I feel like it feels balanced and also, , I know this is a weird thing, but like 5-1-5, it feels balanced, and it feels like the one is, uh… It’s not a hyphen, but a what would go this way? Do you know what I mean? Up and down. So it feels like 5-5, which feels like a mirroring and- Like, , it’s not infinity, it’s not an eight, but it feels like that to me. Like, kind of chaotic, but also measured, you know? So anyway, I love the 515, yeah. Yeah, I, I like numbers too, but I’m a, I’m an even number person. Yeah. pump gas without ending on an even number. It’s so weird. Oh, really? Yeah. I know it’s weird. I love that. It is weird. So But thanks. love that ’cause it’s weird. Are you ready for your first question? Okay. Yeah, I think so. Okay. ., So this is a question that kind of encompasses everything that you do, so it’s a good starting point, I feel like. Okay. you help women decide whether to stay or leave, and you left. , So looking back, was there a single moment that you knew, or was it a slow build that you only saw clearer in the rearview mirror? Oh, okay. That’s a really good question. I’m so scared right now. Okay. So here’s what I think to answer this question. I wanna, like, zoom way, way out, and I’m gonna start with, like I’m gonna s- I’m gonna start, like, when I’m a kid, and you’re gonna be like, “Oh my God. Is she gonna tell her whole life story?” But for those of you that are listening that are fairly new, so I believe that we are always doing things, our actions are coming from a place of trying to keep us safe. Like, emotionally safe or physically safe, right? And so even if we’re doing things sometimes that is clear that that’s not helpful, it’s because our brains think that it’s keeping us safe, and part of the reason it thinks it’s keeping us safe is ’cause we’re alive, and it’s our, our unconscious mind’s prime directive is to keep us alive. So whatever we’re doing is hypothetically working ’cause you’re alive, okay? So when I was in high school, my mom died in a car accident, and pretty soon after that my dad got remarried. Now, he was married to my mom and, , f- by all accounts was happy enough, you know? And then he started dating somebody, I would say within, , eight or nine months of my mom dying, and then they got married very quickly. It wasn’t, , the best relationship. They’re all still alive, so I wanna be careful of how I speak about it. But it wasn’t… I, I, I was se- 17 by the time they got married, and it wasn’t a safe relationship for me, and so I think I did a lot of accommodating to- Feel safe. So I would get in trouble for a lot of things, and I had never been a kid that ever got in trouble. Do you know what I mean? , My, my mother was always so, so kind and , respectful of my sister and I. So that whole relationship, I think, really changed the dynamic of how I experienced relationships. And I think I was pretty, like when we think about attachment theory, like I think I was securely attached and then became anxious after my mom died in that whole experience. Okay. So now, when the question is, like, when you got d- divorced, was it all at once or was it a, a, you know, slow burn? I wanna say… I- I’m gonna tell you my journey of … Joy’s like, “This is a longer answer than I expected.” But the, , the jour- the journey of, of… Let me tell you why I am so chic. Because I have been married several times. And so to answer that question I’m like, “Well, which time?” Okay. When I was in college, I got married right after college, and, I got divorced very quickly. … We didn’t have kids. Like, there was no… And so I know that that was a marriage. We had a wedding. It… But in my brain it doesn’t feel like one. It feels like such a blip, and I was so young, and honestly, I was coming right off the heels of my mom dying, like five years before or something. Do you know what I mean? , It all feels very blurry. And so then years later I met my son’s dad, and that was my second marriage, but felt like my first. It operated like my first. And more importantly, my third marriage operated like my second. I sound very chic, Joy. I’m very chic. Um, so my first marriage, I think I, I, I… What I have found in my relationships in general, marriages or otherwise, is that I have chosen people that I could try and heal that relationship with my dad. Like, I’m gonna tell you something’s wrong, and you’re gonna ignore me and tell me I’m misreading it, which is what happened when I was young. And so I would find people unconsciously that I could play that out because that felt safe, because that was so familiar, right? And so I, I think that I did that with my first marriage, and I was not mature enough to recognize that there was something going on within me. And then I got divorced when my son, m- and I have a trans son, so when my son was four. And then again, you know, replayed stuff. Had some terrible relationships in between all of that. And then married my last, my last and final. I will never get the government involved ever again. So my, my most recent marriage, and that was a marriage that lasted… We were married for 12 years. We were together, like, 15 years. And I think I was playing the same exact thing out, but the difference this time, and what I teach inside the Navigate method, is that we can trust ourselves, right? That we can find the, our side of the street and heal our side of the street. That we can use the relationship as a mirror to figure ourselves out so much deep, much deeper. And so I think I knew almost immediately that my marriage wasn’t good, and for a lot of circumstances, I stayed for a long time. I think I didn’t wanna fail again. I think my , r- you know, relationship with my, then my daughter at that time was complicated, ’cause she was getting sick as a teenager, and there was just a lot of things going on where, , it didn’t… I couldn’t leave. And I say I couldn’t. I had options, but, , I, I didn’t feel like I could leave, and I didn’t want to. I wanted desperately for it to be good. And what I realize now is that going through that whole process and actually using it to heal myself, and now I would say I’m absolutely securely attached, earned secure, because I earned it back. But that relationship, although, , one of the most heinous in my life I think, I’m the most grateful for it. It changed me in such profound ways because I did the work, because I looked at it, because I paid attention and didn’t say, “I’m gonna let…”, I was like, “I’m not letting…” This is, it, to me, and I’m gonna say this too as we continue this conversation, in my relationships, any of them, I’m not the only one in them. And so, you know, if you brought my former husband, any of select one, any of the many former husbands, like they may have a totally different story, and it doesn’t mean they’re wrong. It just means that’s our versions, and there’s a truth in there somewhere in the middle, right? But to me, I’m like, that relationship was so profoundly, , harmful to me that it forced me into change, and for that I am incredibly, incredibly grateful. So to answer the question, it didn’t happen all at once, but the clarity of, oh, I’m healed enough to do this on my own, I get it, sort of unraveled within, , I would say, like, the last six or eight months. If that makes sense. That is a very answer to that question. sense. and you needed the backstory to, to complete that, Yeah. Yeah. that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Okay. question. Okay. It’s okay, it’s okay. Okay. What’s something that you believed about your own marriage right up until the end that turned out not to be true? Oh, question. God, that’s a good question. Is that one of yours, or is that one that we got in? That’s one that was the myth. What is some… Say it again, something that’s true What is was true. about your own marriage right up until the end that turned out not to be true? That’s… That there was something I could have done to save it. I don’t think there was anything I could have done. I think lots of times we try and make sense of things, and we’re like, “If I could have done this better,” or, “Maybe if I had just learned how to cook dinner better,” or I had… Do you know what I mean? Like, we think of all the things, and now I recognize that what was happening, just like for him, none of what I was doing had to do with him. It was, had to do with this old story. The same thing for him. What he was doing and how he was responding and how he was interacting with me had nothing to do with me, and there was nothing I could have done, and I think that actually brings me a lot of peace. But it, uh, it took me a,, a long while, even after we were divorced, for me to get to that. Yeah. good answer. I think, I think that’s probably a common answer because as women, I think we feel like we maybe could try this, maybe we could try this, Yeah. and, and maybe there’s nothing else and I, yeah, and I think, not to interrupt you, I’m sorry. , That’s why we go to couples counseling, and I don’t have anything against couples counseling. But I think that what happens is we go, and then we talk about problems that have happened, and you’re talking about the problem, but the problem actually isn’t the issue. It’s the reasons that you got to the problem. So if everybody would just go their own way and figure out their own crap, you, y- you wouldn’t have to, like, rehash a situation for two months, you know? Like, I, I could have rehashed so many different situations, and we never, ever, ever… It’s clear we never could have come to a conclusion ’cause it was our own crap we were bringing in. I, I was responding to stuff because of me and who I was, and he was responding s- to stuff because of him. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. It’s okay. It’s okay, Bessie. you’re great. You’re doing really good. I know. I don’t know. Okay, people assume the woman who teaches this work has it all figured out. Mm-hmm. ending are you still making sense of? Oh, I think one of the biggest things, and I think if people follow me for a long time, I think they understand that I often will even say, people, like, “I’m on this path with you. I don’t think we ever have it all figured out.” And I think one of the biggest mistakes I could ever make as a leader or as a coach would be to make people feel like I had it all figured out. ‘Cause I never want anybody to, um, need me forever. Like I always say to my clients, “I want you to want me forever, but I don’t want you to need me. I want you to have your own tools and your own ways of thinking so I, I’ll never have it all figured out, and I think there’s always things to uncover. One of the things that I think I do really well is I will sit and think about stuff, and I won’t… Or I, I say I won’t. It’s not that I never, but I try. I do, not avoid hard thoughts. I make room for hard thoughts. And so as I come up against things I haven’t had, don’t have figured out, there’s always new things to uncover and I will figure them out. If that makes sense. So I know I’m not necessarily answering the question, but it’s just, like I don’t have the, to let, make a list of all the things I don’t have figured out. It’s everything. You know? Like there’s so much, ’cause I am not one that, that pushes the idea that I do. I think that’s– I mean, because we’re always evolving and, and changing and figuring stuff out as we Yeah. And you question, but… yeah, and you know sometimes when I get really overwhelmed, uh, with work, and then I’ll say like, “I’m just gonna go sit,” and you’re always like, you’re good at “What the…” Yeah, and you’re like, “What the hell? What the heck?” I’m like, “I’m just gonna go sit and just be quiet for 15 minutes and see what happens.” normal.” Yeah. “Let me do 800 things that Yeah, you always tell me. Yeah, I love it. Okay, so this is about your birthday. Oh, okay. um, okay. So you’re about to turn 55. Mm-hmm. that you thought you would have figured out by now that you haven’t, have you made peace with that? I think I thought I would- grow up and have, like, a family and, like, the father of the bride house and the white picket fence and a husband that adored me. I’ve never ever, ever, I’ve never ever had anybody in my life that adored me. I think I thought I would, have, uh probably more kids than just one. I think, you know what I mean? I think there was, I, I think there’s so much of my life that isn’t what I thought it was gonna be and I think it’s because what I thought it was gonna be was created before my mom died and when she died it, like, scrambled eggs, you know what I mean? And, and I really like where I ended up right now, you know? So I think it’s not… Martin adores you. Dean Martin does adore me but only See? wants to. He’s ve- he’s al- he’s taught me more about consent. Like, consent is, is a, a subject that comes up sometimes in the Navigate group, right? Like with your husband, like, you know, if he wants sex and I don’t want sex and how, can I say no and all of those things. I swear to God I learned more about consent from my freaking cat. Like, it makes sense. , You have to ask permission to grab at somebody. So yeah. Okay. Um, let’s see. Oh, I love this question. I love this question. , What is a pattern that you see in almost every woman who comes to you that she swears does not apply to her? . I know what it is and I’m just trying to formulate it. Um, I think, well, I think first of all every woman thinks that their husband’s behavior is their fault. Like if they could do something different then things could be different and I think that they take a lot of ownership of his behavior instead of letting him own it and that becomes really heavy. And you think that Yeah, I think- that at the time? Yeah. Yeah. I think they don’t realize it and then I think as we move through the program then they start to recognize it but I don’t think it’s just like if you’re listening and you’re like, “Oh yeah,” I think that’s not a thing you can just hear and go, “Oh okay.” I think you have to, like, internalize it and I think going through the program helps you, like, viscerally understand that and I think that’s like the shift, a big shift that happens for people Mm-hmm. Because, yeah, maintaining somebody else’s life is impossible. Okay, this is another question that pertains to the work you do in Navigate. , So you’ve been clear that you don’t push women towards staying or leaving Mm-hmm. the Navigate program. Um, has that ever cost you a client that you’d wish you’d been more direct with? Like where I wish they had left or I wish they had stayed? I know, I know personally, I can tell you that as a, a former Navigate person, hearing some of the stories, sometimes, you know, part of you, the girlfriend side of you wants to be like, you gotta get out of there.” Yeah. you, you’re very good about not, , Yeah. that on anyone and letting them arrive at those decisions themselves. So I guess, that is the question. — Has it ever cost you a client that you’ve y- you would– were more direct with? yeah. I, I’m gonna say no, and the reason that I’m gonna say no is because it’s not that I think, “Oh, they should leave,” but I left, and then I went back, and then I had to leave again a couple years later, which we can talk about that. But, like, that process was so important for me that I need people to have their own process because that’s the only way we trust ourselves. And part of this program is, is getting women to a place where they know themselves so deeply, and if I’m putting any pressure on any of that, then that whole foundation crumbles. Mm-hmm. is there part of me that’s like, “Give me his phone number”? Yeah, and sometimes I’ll say that. Do you know what I mean? Like, ’cause there is the girlfriend side of you that’s like, “Girl. Oh my God.” But, but also, , the overarching goal and purpose, and I… , and again, I’m gonna go back to, like, when I said I was so grateful for my former husband this last relationship because I feel like this is my purpose. This is why I’m here on this planet, and I never, ever, ever could have got here if I hadn’t had that relationship. Oh my God, I’m so grateful for that relationship. But that’s how come I know not to push anybody anywhere. Mm-hmm. Yeah. good answer. this is kind of a piggyback question,, what is a piece of your own advice that you’ve struggled to take? A piece of my own advice I struggle to take I, I’m gonna say this.  I don’t typically give advice unless I’ve lived it. I think that one of the things that anyone that’s worked with me would say is that I will say, I’ll even say, like, “Hey, I’m open to being wrong. You decide what feels right to you.” And even in my personal relationships, I’ll say, “I’m open to being wrong,” ’cause I’m open to learning. I’m really open to learning and seeing things in a different way. I love when I can see things in a different way., I think in my… If I were to say, is there something that, advice I should take, it’s just that I can’t control everything. Like, I, uh,, you know, we all have that desire to want to have some sense of control of the world and the universe, and you just can’t. You can’t make people do what you wanna, want them to do. You can only invite. You know, the you can’t lead a horse to water. It’s the same with me, I guess.  Like, I can know the things, and there’s gonna be days where I’m, I bypass myself just because I’m human. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Good. Okay, let’s see. Hmm. Okay. You live alone. What does a hard night actually look like for you, and what do you do? A hard night. So, Is there any hard nights alone? yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, I know, right? There’s been some debate on Instagram on any of my posts where I say I’m not lonely. I don’t get lonely. I get bored. I don’t get lonely. And so now I’m gonna say something, and I’m open to being wrong if this w- people were to label this as lonely. But one of the things that I found is that I had limited friendships when I was married, and those friendships- Sort of disintegrated, and I had to create all new friendships. And I think I had hard nights in the beginning in that that was really confusing to me. Nothing happened. I, I still w- I wouldn’t be shocked if somebody reached out to me and said, “Oh my God, I haven’t talked to you in so long. You wanna go get a coffee?” ‘Cause nothing happened, but there was just a shift, and I think there was an energetic shift to me, and that felt confusing because I… Nothing had happened. So, so there were nights, especially in the beginning, I think, where it was more like confusing of like, “How do I make friends? Like, what did I do? Why w- at this, , vulnerable moment did the people that were in my life disappear?” And I think there’s, again, it had nothing to do with me. And so, um, I think the hard nights were just that like, “How do I rebuild my life?” And kind of figuring that out. That makes And then the… And there’s ice cream for nights like that. But I think most of the time, like, I have pretty good nights. , I have my routines, you know? I, I work, and then I make dinner, and then I sit on the couch, and I like to watch YouTube videos. I, I have YouTube, like the subscription, so I don’t have commercials. And I love going down the rabbit hole of documentaries, and I watch all a bunch of stuff about the Gilded Age, and I’m into, like, uh, uh, you know, how they run stuff. Like, I watched this documentary the other day on how they run the Atlanta airport. It’s so fascinating. How they run cruise ships., So I, I’m into stuff, and I’m interested and curious. And then when I get tired, I get in bed, and you know, people have heard me talk about my evening routine with the bed. But like, I get in my BedJet heated up bed and crick it away while I read or watch TV. , .. and I have a lot of friends that I message with. , We use Voxer, and you and I use Voxer. But , we message about stuff all the time. Like, you’re having a glass of wine and you’re like say- You know, like, there’s a lot of interaction that I have with people now that’s friends that live all over., It does take up time and, and space in a good way.. And that is the part that’s like I’m never really lonely, ’cause I have all these structures around me that if I w- want somebody, I could just reach out. But I think in the beginning it was that, like, reorienting and how do I recreate my life. Mm-hmm. Well, I think every woman too that, , is watching will, feel like, you know, when they’re alone or their husband’s out of town, it’s almost like a Yeah, really. Yeah. cool. Yeah, yeah. I got a message from a friend the other day, um, and she reached out to me a couple months ago, and I hadn’t heard from her, like, in years. And I was talking to her, she lives in New York, and I was talking to her a lot on Voxer when we met, and,, she’s a business owner, too, and you know what I mean, we commiserated on all that stuff. Uh, and it was when I was living with my husband. We were married at the time. And anyway, the other day we were messaging and she said, “You know, Betsy, you need to go back and listen to your voice in the messages that you would leave me back in like 2023, 2024,” early 2024. She’s like, “You sound like a completely different person, like it doesn’t even sound like you.” And I was like, “Really? That’s so weird.” And she was like, “Yeah, like you’re… The joy, you’re way more excited, like you sound alive.” And she kept saying, “Go back and listen. Go back and listen.” So I scrolled back and I saw, like the last time we had messaged, like 2023, I think it was, October, and I couldn’t listen. I just was like, “I don’t wanna revisit her.” Like I, I looked at the message for a long time. I could see it, you know? And I just couldn’t hit play. I was like, “I’m just gonna let her rest,” you know? Yeah. It was interesting. Yeah, that’s interesting and, and profound really. It’s Yeah, yeah. like you’ve moved on from that person all the way. Yeah, yeah. And I just didn’t wanna like… It felt like digging up a grave, you know? It felt like, like a, I don’t know, like a betrayal. Like just let her be. So yeah, it was kinda interesting. Okay, this, this one may be a long answer, so Oh. ready? Need opposed to the other ones where I feel like I’ve talked. Okay. Okay. Okay, so, um- Tell us the moment that you realized it was time to leave in your marriage, your Yeah. Um, I think that in my marriage, I was very depleted, and I think I tried really hard. When I look back, and I don’t recognize this as much now, but I remember at the time, and even maybe like a year after I lived in my own apartment, if someone said, “Describe your marriage, give me one word-” It would have been frustrating and, like, frustrating. Like, it was very frustrating. It probably was for him, too. So again, I’m just gonna reiterate that this isn’t anything… This isn’t about him. This is about me. It was very frustrating, and I think that I had a moment when I… I’m gonna say something very strange, I think., I hired somebody to hypnotize me because some of the feedback that I would get online felt really crushing in a weird way, and people would comment on my clothes or my big glasses or whatever, but it felt very deeply injured me. And I was like, “What is that?” Now, if I had been in, , an incredible relationship where I felt, , supported and loved, like, maybe it wouldn’t have, but it did. And it got to the point where I remember one day I was laying on the floor in my home office, and I was like, “I don’t know if I can keep doing this.” Now, I started the Navigate method when I was still married, so that’s something we can talk about. But I, I was laying on the floor, and I was like, “I don’t know if I can do this anymore.” Like, this feels like such important work to me, but I… And was given to me, which we can talk about that. And so, “But I don’t know if I can do it.” And so a friend of mine was like, “You need to hire this guy, Joseph Cloth.” He and I were in a coaching group together, and she was like, “You should hire Joseph.” And I was like, “Oh yeah, I should.” So I reached out. It, it wasn’t cheap. I mean, it was thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to be hypnotized so that I could get rid of feeling awful when people commented. But we had to get to, like, the root cause, and the root cause was I am bad. Now, if somebody said to me, like, “What do you think is the root cause of your…” I would never, ever, ever had said I am bad. So he had me do this whole exercise. It took me, like, two weeks of, like, crying all night. Like, like I really sat with it. Like, what is this? And I… And, and I think because I’m a coach, I could get to, like, this deep, deep, deep root. And go back to the first story I told you. When, after my mom died and my dad started dating somebody, and when they got married, I would tell him, “This isn’t… This doesn’t feel right. Like, the things that are being said to me feel terrible. I… This isn’t good.” And he would say, “You’re misunderstanding. It- you’re wrong.” You’re misinterpreting that and, you know, stop trying to mess up my life. And I think I internalized that to, like, don’t trust yourself. You can’t rely on your own feelings. They’re not right. And, you know, uh, y- y- you’re bad. And so w- he hypnotized me, and I came out of that hypnosis with clarity, like, “Oh, I’m not bad.” And I… That means that I deserve good things and good people around me that love me. And, uh, and I, and, and it shifted. I n- I, I don’t g- give a rat’s ass about what anybody says online in the weirdest way. In fact, I love it. I’m like, “Well, that making you feel something, and that’s good.” You know? Um, but I think that was a big part in my shift of, like, what is it that I deserve? And that’s something that we work on in the Navigate method. Like, what is it that I deserve? Is it true that this is what I deserve? You know? And, and I’m gonna keep saying this just because I feel like it’s so important, my former husband deserved different than he had with me. It wasn’t the right match. Do y- do you know what I mean? And so, um, when I got that, I think that was a huge piece of my clarity. But again, it’s layers. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta, like, do the work and look at the stuff and, like, unpack it all. That’s good. Yeah. I have not yet been hypnotized. That’s why I wore my non-black glasses today because can’t handle the negativity. I think it’s funny. And then it’s funny ’cause people will be like, “I hate your glasses. I love your glasses.” And then sometimes they’re like, “Why do you dress in such big clothes?” That’s a big one I get. “Why are you dressed in such baggy clothes? You’re so little. Why are you in such big clothes?” I’m like, “‘Cause I don’t want you looking at my body.” how people feel like they can say whatever they wanna say. It’s so terrible. Like, It’s funny ’cause they, I don’t think they’d say it in real life, you know? But- they probably don’t. It’s all Yeah a screen and on a keyboard. Keyboard it, it makes it way more obvious if somebody loves my glasses and says, “Where’d you get those?” And somebody hates them, then it’s not the glasses. It’s the person that’s viewing the glasses. so true. Yes. So I just go, “Oh, whatever. I ain’t bad.” I actually was like, “Let me do these today,” because Yeah. no one will say, “Why sh- why are they both wearing black glasses?” Wait. Hey, I know. Freaking damn big g- black glasses, yeah. That one’s funny okay. Um, okay, so… Oh, okay, so you’ve… This is kind of an all-encompassing. So you’ve built a business, a podcast, a method, a book deal. Yeah. is the thing that you’re quietly most proud of that no one knows about? Um, so I will say, let’s see. And the book, let’s just comment on the book ’cause someone will be like, “She has a book?” Years ago, years and years ago, I wrote a book, but this isn’t the book that we’re talking about now. So we’re in the process of writing a book. I have an agent, and we’re writing a book., And we’ll know more about that around Christmastime, but it’ll be out next year. , So what is the thing that I’m most proud of that nobody knows about? Mm-hmm. I think my ability to be open to new ideas. I got divorced from my second husband, ’cause I’m very chic. Just a reminder, I’m very chic and I’m not afraid of change. , But I got divorced, you know, from my son’s dad, and we remained really good friends. And years and years later, I asked Oliver, I said, “Have you ever heard me say anything bad about Dad?” And he said, “No. Why would you?” And that made me so proud, because he was like, “Why would you say anything bad?” ‘Cause he had never, ever heard me say anything bad. And you know what? I love his dad. I love his dad. His dad is part of him, and I’m really proud of the relationship that we have. Is it perfect? No. Do I wish parts of it were different, especially over the past few years? Yeah, absolutely. But we have really been good partners and good co-parents in the best way that we could, and I think that’s because, uh, of him as well as because I am open and not afraid of being wrong. And when I say wrong, like, I’m not afraid of, of being like, “Okay, maybe that wasn’t right. Maybe I didn’t handle that right. Maybe I c- … I’m open to hearing other people’s experience of me and taking that into account and apologizing where I need to.” So I’ve always been really proud of that. When Oliver was little, we did holidays together with his wife, and then I’ve I mean, his kids have been to my house. Like, we’ve maintained a, a f- really friendly relationship, which I’m always been really grateful for. That’s awesome. Yeah. It’s awesome for Oliver. Yes. uh, something that’s just, uh, you Yeah stress away from the child of any Yeah. whether married or, or, you know, going through a divorce or a separation, just to take that away, that stress away from the, child in that Yeah. is awesome, so… we still have every Friday, every Friday at 3:00 we have a family meeting. Now Oliver is 24, but he’s got some challenges. And so every Friday we meet and talk with him, see how his week has been, where he struggled, where we can support him. And so, you know, that’s always been like a team effort. So I think that that’s like just an important piece of my whole journey, you know? Awesome. Okay, let’s see where we’re at. , Oh, this is probably my favorite question. It’s one of the– my favorite. So I have a,, I have a question that has nothing to do with Navigate Okay. Okay. Okay. that you wish someone would ask that they never ask? , What is something I could go… I should’ve… I, you mentioned this, this question to me earlier and I thought, “Oh, how would I answer that?” And I still don’t know. I wish they would ask that they never ask. it and come back to it? Well, you know, one thing I’ll say is I think, and this goes back to one of the earlier questions, is that I think lots of times people think, and I’m not gonna be answering the question exactly, but a roundabout way. I think lots of times people think, “Well, Betsy’s fine,” because I present as fine. And I think just I’m a human like anybody else, and I think there have been challenges. I know when I moved into my apartment, I had a lot of challenges in my nervous system when I moved and lived alone, not because I didn’t like being alone, but because I was so used to scanning to manage other people’s emotions, that the lack of knowing if I was, I’m gonna use air quotes, “in trouble”. But again, remember like I had this thing from when I was young, it had nothing to do with my husband. So, uh, is that I, I, I didn’t know if I was in trouble ’cause I wasn’t around anybody. And so I… So I think the thing that I wish, not necessarily people would ask me, but I think that people could recognize, was that everything that I share is truly because I have done the work. Like, I have walked through it. Like, I have thought about it deeply, and I think that if, you know, if somebody were to ask me something, I think it would just be like something totally different from anything that we talk about. Do you know what I mean? , Like what do you, why do you love the ocean so much? I, I’m gonna cry. Like, why do you love the ocean so much? Like, I think … Well, that’s weird. That’s gonna make me cry, Joy. We’ll, we’ll cut that out. Um think you should cut it out. By the way, I’m I mean, your audience already knows you’re looking to move to the Yeah. proud of you for making that decision and doing that. It’s so brave of you. And, Yeah. um, you clearly, you clearly love it so much that it’s emotional for you. So I’m Yeah. for you to do that. And I think that, like, for a long time the ocean was, like … When I thought about the beach, and if people have listened to the podcast forever,, That– I, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you tear up, so I, I think Yeah. something you shouldn’t cut out because it’s real Yeah. Yeah. I, I’m so happy for you because, um, like you said the other day, you know, we were talking with, um, a group of women that, that were s- that was saying like, “Uh, just wish I could get on the other side of this. Like, I wish I could take out all of the middle ground, the hard stuff.” Yeah. you said something so profound, which was, you know, that’s going to be the stuff that makes you that next person. That– Going through that is going to yield, you know, the, the person that you’re growing to be. So sometimes you just have to go through those hard things first. It’s like getting forged, you know? It’s like pottery, is like you mold it and then you stick it in the fire, and it’s the fire that makes it so beautiful. And so yeah, I think that trying to cut out the middle or t- not trying to go through the hard stuff, I think, like you don’t have to know what it’s gonna be like to get… Like, how long is it gonna be? How bad is it gonna be? You don’t have to know. All you have to know is today. All you have to know is, like, this moment. Can I handle this moment? Okay, I’m good. I’m good. What about this moment? Okay, I’m good. Like, I think we get so far ahead of ourselves, but it’s such important work to, like, move through. And, you know, I could go into the whole woo-woo, which I love to do, , i- which is like y- you know, you were meant to come here and go through this. You were meant to, like, have this experience. And, you know, I have a belief that… And other people can believe differently, but I think,, if I hadn’t gone through this, like, thing where I, I believe leaving my former husband this last time, becoming the person that I needed to become, and then leaving, was my life’s journey. I know that sounds so weird, but, like, that was a huge part of my life’s journey, and I think, I think, I would have come back in some other reincarnation and had to do it again. And now I get to, like, graduate from it ’cause I freaking went through it, you know? And I was… And we always say in the program, with bravery and integrity. Like, how do we move forward things with bravery and integrity? And I feel like I was able to do that. Did I do everything perfect? No, but I tried really hard to be in integrity with, with… And clear, you know, in, in what I wanted. Yeah. this question. What’s Okay. favorite movie? Okay, so my favorite movie ever, when you first w- asked me this question, like when you mentioned it yesterday, I think, um, I al- I loved Elizabethtown years ago. I have ADHD. it. Yeah, it’s really good. But, but I have, like, ADHD, so, like, I don’t remem- if you told me to tell you what Elizabethtown was about, I wouldn’t be able to tell you. I, I’ll leave a m- a movie and I’ll be like, “That was so good.” And then outside the theater someone could be like, “Tell me about it,” and I’ll be like, “I don’t know, but I was entertained.” You know? So, uh, so but I will say my favorite movie ever, and I could tell you all about it, is Everything Everywhere All at Once. And when I… I’ve seen this movie like three different times. Every time I’ve seen it I wanted so badly to talk to somebody about it, like, in depth. Like, everybody in my life, I was like, “You know, you need to see that movie. Can we talk about it?” But it is a movie about the, like, the unis- universe, like collective consciousness, basically. And you get to see every piece of your life all at once as if you had made every decision differently than you did, and you, in the end, still recognize that this life matters, that this, where you ended up, was exactly right. Even with all the other metaverses in the world that could’ve happened, where you are is exactly right. And there’s also a greater story about a mother and a daughter, and it’s about her having, the mother having to see the daughter in every other universe to see all the sides of her before she could really love her in this one. And I just think it’s so profound. It’s such a good, it’s such a good movie. And, like, it’s the kind of movie you watch it once and you’re like, “What the fuck just happened to me?” And then you gotta watch it again and, like, every time I’m on a airplane I’m like, “Oh, let me see if they have it on there.” It’s so good. You know what else was a really good movie? And I’ve watched it twice, and the second time it didn’t hit the same time as the first time. But it was called, um, Nine Days, I think it was called. And it was about these souls that are auditioning to get to have a life, and they want it so bad. Oh. Oh, wow. and it’s, it makes you go, “Oh my God, I’m so lucky to be here.” Like, I’m, this is so fucking cool that I get to be here. And hard stuff. They want hard stuff. Like, they don’t just want fun, great stuff. Like, they want the hard stuff, too. Like, it is the range of emotion that is, like, the biggest gift that we have, and I think we- Try and stay so far away from anything that feels, like, uncomfortable or bad, but it’s part of the gift, ’cause when you do that, then, m- you know, like I cry thinking about going to the beach. Like, I can’t even say it because I g- had the fucking bad, and now I get to have the good, and I can’t even stand it, I’m so excited. It’s happy tears. But I think we move away from hard, and, and I see this in the program too, and I get it. Of like, I don’t wanna go through this, it’s gonna be hard. And I say like, “Let it be. What’s gonna happen on the other end?” Like, what if it ends up great? Like, I have this sign in my bathroom, and it’s in my bathroom only because, um, I see it every day, but sometimes on the internet people are like, “Why is that in your bathroom?” But it says, um, what if it’s great? What if it’s great? Like, we are really good at catastrophizing, being like, “This is terrible. My kids are gonna suffer.” Like, well, what if it’s great? What if your kids get to see you do something totally different? What if they get to see a whole new side of you? What if they get to experience you in real love or their dad having real lo- like, what if it’s great? I just, I, like, let’s spend as much time there, you know? Yep. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. So I just realized by your movies that I, um, may need to try some different movies out, ’cause I was thinking about Steel Magnolias, Parenthood, and yeah. Yeah, totally. You need to watch Everything Everywhere All at Once. Yeah. think, well, I’ve r- Is that a book? ‘Cause I think I might have read the book. Oh, I know. yeah. But it’s a movie, like Jamie Lee Curtis is in it, and it’s really good. Yeah, watch that for I sure. Yeah. Okay. Well, we’re, we’re getting to the bottom of these questions. You’ve done a great job. Uh, let’s Okay. I have one. Um, so are you open to dating? Oh, no. Why? I know, that was so fast, wasn’t it? Okay, so let’s tell the story about, like, the… Okay, so I wanna say this. I feel whole and complete, and I would w- and I, I’m gonna make sure I’m not telling myself a lie. I feel whole and complete. I don’t feel like I’m missing anybody. The idea of having somebody and finally having someone in my life that actually likes me, like, I don’t feel like I don’t, I don’t feel like I have been in relationships in the past where people even liked me. So, the idea of having somebody like me, that actually would feel really good to have somebody like me. , I think I have had to fight my own ageism and really look at that from my own perspective. When I look outside of myself, I see women in their 50s and 60s that are beautiful, and I think absolutely they deserve love. And then when I look at myself, I immediately go, “She’s too old. I’m too old. Nobody’s gonna wanna date me at 55.” Like, I’m, I have gray hair. I… Do you know what I mean? Like, I do the, a little of that. So with that said, it would have to be a… I am s- I have such a filter now. , I s- smell, like, red flags. , It would have to really be someone that’s really spectacular. If you ever hear, if anybody listening ever hears of me dating, just know that they are, like, the freaking bomb. And I have joked that I would only date somebody if they had a yacht, which was very safe here in Atlanta ’cause nobody has a yacht. But now I’m going to the beach, so I feel like my v- my v- Venn diagram of overlap could be different. So with that said, I think that, yeah, I think it would have to be somebody great. There was one day that Joy and I were talking and w- I was like, “We’re gonna… I’m gonna get on a dating app.” And I had applied for, um, Raya, which is like which is, , for celebrities basically. But I was like, “I have enough followers. I think I could get into Raya.” But I didn’t. I- they put me on a wait list. And so then I was like, “Well, it could be my age. It could also be my content.” Do you know what I mean? Like, my content is gonna fil- filter out a, a lot of guys that wouldn’t be the right match, and so I feel grateful for that. So what did I get on? , I don’t– Was it? Hinge. It I got on Hinge. Oh, okay. Yeah. I lasted 24 hours, Mm-hmm. I asked for my money back and got it. It was a I got… 24 It was a whirlwind 24 hours. I was just disgusted by every freaking question. I, the… Men tried to introduce intimacy so quickly, and I am, like, I have a super filter for that. , Oh my God, was that funny or what? oh my God. hours, but it was s- I mean, I, I’m, I don’t mean to say it was funny, but It was funny, yeah. Betsy called me, she’s like, “I’m out, I’m off of it.” Yeah. joined it.” It was like, I joined it that night, and I was like, I think I had a glass of wine, and I was like, “I’m gonna do it.” And then by the next morning, I was like, “Screw this.” And somebody asked me out, and I said yes, and I liked that they were decisive. They were like, “Meet me here.” And then when I said, “I can’t do that on a Friday at lunch. , I run a company. Like, I don’t know what you think I’m doing.” And they wanted me to drive 40 minutes to meet them for lunch at like a cafeteria. And, and, and they were like, “I don’t know. The app says it’s 20.” And so I was like, “Oh, are you calling me a freaking liar? Are you try-,” like, I… And I got in the shower, and I was angry because some man was telling me what to do or telling me who I was, and I was like, “Oh, I’m not… This isn’t for me., I’m just not there yet.” And I, I don’t, I don’t know that there’s more evolving that I have to do, but I definitely think I need to, um, I wanna say like relax a little bit, but also, no. , I sensed that as like a… There was a rhetorical pattern there, right? Of like, “You don’t know what you’re saying. I know the truth, and you can- you’re gonna do what I say,” even though he didn’t say it in that way. That’s the… , and he gave this emoji of the what? I don’t know. You know, like, huh? my God, wow. And so I just was like, “I’m not doing that. I’m not… I am not ever playing that out with somebody else,” of like, “You know better than me.” I know m- the most about my life than anybody else. Like, I know me, and, and I know that’s too far for me to drive because I do important things too, buddy. But I was so… I, I mean, you can even hear it in my voice now. , I just… So no, I’m not dating ’cause I don’t want to. like a quick answer, a quick Yeah. tell you that’s probably the right answer. I was on a podcast recently, an, an interview. It’s not live yet. But she asked me like what d- what’s dating like, and I was like, I, I, I was almost confused by the question ’cause I was like, well, I… And I was like, I, I, I don’t know. I, yeah, I j- I was like, “I don’t know.” Like, I don’t know. I don’t know. Ask somebody else, not me. I have an a- amazing life, and to fit somebody else into that life… And you know, I’m moving to the beach, and I’m going down next weekend to look for my apartment, and I decided I’m gonna rent for a little while till I figure it out. The people who have come out of the woodwork to be kind to me, to… And, and actually, when people are listening to this, I’m probably on a airplane. So have come out of the woodwork to be kind to me, to offer to bring me out. You know, my birthday, I’m gonna be there on my birthday. There’s people bringing me out on my birthday that I don’t know, that know me from the internet, you know? Um, it- that ha- offered to help me find pla- that videotaped, like- These, this is one place you’d might really like at the beach. And, , took so much time to help me. I- it was a lesson in, like, you deserve to have people be kind to you. It’s okay to let people help you. , It was a moment, you know, where I was like, “Okay, this is a lesson in, , let people love you,” you know? And so maybe I’ll get there, and this is, like, the first piece, you know? That’s awesome. I’m excited for you. And, too. you I’m excited for you to come down and visit. least expect it. I’m talking about if there’s Yeah. a, you know, Yeah. partner in your future, it will yeah. least And like, it, I think. yeah. And like I’m, I’m g- I think I, I am a great partner. Like, I think I’m a really good partner, so I just gotta find the really good partner to partner with that. , I’m not afraid to have hard conversations. I listen. I’m a- available for new ideas. I like to try new things., I will do the things you’re into, but, like, I need the reciprocal, you know? So I will wait until I find that. Also, the yacht. Awesome. Yes. Got that. Well, we’ve gone through, um, a lot of these. Yeah. And we’ve been talking for an hour, which we could talk for two hours. It’s fine. But, I know. yeah. Are we done with all the questions? There’s one more, , it’s if the podcast ended tomorrow and you never coached another woman, would you feel like you did what you came here to do? Oh, you know what’s so weird is even when you said that, I was like, “No.” Like, I, like this is such, like, my purpose. I don’t know that I’ll ever not do it. Do you know, like, sometimes I think about retiring. My sister just retired, and I’m like, “I can’t imagine not doing this.” , It’s just so much of how I think and who I am. , Okay, so wait, what’s the question? If I ever don’t do it, then If, is. To do? I came here to do. Yeah. Years ago, I had this mentor when I lived out in the suburbs, and I had this mentor in my life who, you know, would give all these examples of things he had done or worked with people on or… You know, when we were working together, he would say, like, “I had this client once who…” And I remember saying to him, like, “You’ve, uh, I can’t imagine, like, having such a big impact on everybody. , you’ve had such a big impact.” And he said, “Yeah, if I died tomorrow, I know I would have given more than I took, and that feels good to me.” I, I think that only recently, like maybe in the last year, have I started to recognize Mostly because women on the internet are so incredibly kind to me. But only recently have I started to realize how much of an impact even just the podcast has made, or those videos that I do on Instagram. A- and I wanna mention something about that. But those videos, I think, , people are so kind to tell me how much that impacted them and changed their life, and changed how they thought about themselves. And so I think I could safely say that I’ve given more than I’ve taken, and, and I don’t know that it needs to be that way. I don’t need to give more than I get. That, I’m open to that being more of both. D- does that make sense? , Mm-hmm. like, I, I am open to receiving, and I think maybe for a long time I wasn’t. We talked about this in the group the other day of like, how open are you to receive, and to receive help, and to receive? And I think that I was closed for a long time ’cause I had to be so hyper independent. But anyway, so I would say yes, I, I think I’ve done what I came here to do, and I wanna keep doing it ’cause I think there’s more. Yeah. That’s a great ending. I think you are a phenomenal asset to women. I think that watching and working with you and watching you do what you do Yeah. it’s amazing. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I’m grateful to do it, and I’m grateful that you were able to help me today with all these questions. Yeah, we Thanks, Joy. Our first it. official podcast. May th- may there be more. Thanks so much, Joy. You’re welcome. Have a great day. Thanks for joining me on The Art of Living Big. I hope today’s episode sparked something within you, maybe pushed you to dream a little bit bigger and live a little larger. Don’t forget to subscribe. Leave us a review and share this podcast with someone you know who might need a little inspiration today. You can find me over on Instagram at Betsy Pake and on my YouTube channel. Remember, the world is vast. Your potential is endless, and your life, it’s yours to shape. Until next time, keep reaching, keep exploring, and keep living big.

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about why simply showing up for the people you love - matters more than you might think.I share the story of my first-ever art exhibition (eeeek!), the friends who showed up to surprise me there (“We got you, Motherfucker!”

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about the powerful difference between sympathy, empathy, and compassion and why it matters in how we move through the world.I share a personal story about my mixed media art piece that I created for “The Mothership” Exhibition - in honor of my mother on the 45th anniversary of her murder - and how watching strangers interact with my work revealed, in real time, the shift from sympathy to empathy and beyond.We explore:- How sympathy creates distance- How empathy helps us feel ‘with' someone- How compassion asks, “How can I help?” and moves us to actI also offer a few simple ways you can start building your own compassion muscle - for others, yourself, animals, and for all the beings that may be suffering in this wild world we're all sharing.KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, the creator of Write Club, and the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

Send us Fan Mail✨ New to Human Design? Download your free "Start Here" guide!Oh my goddess, we're getting into one of my faaaavorite topics in today's episode: spirituality and money, and why the two don't need to be at odds with each other.And I'm unpacking this with Belinda Rosenblum, a business money coach and 5/1 Manifesting Generator. She calls herself the "business mom" you always want to have on Voxer to run your ideas by, and she helps entrepreneurs create a business that is aligned with their soul and identity, not with what someone else wants.Even if you're not an entrepreneur or business owner, listen in! Because as Belinda says, you're still making money and the same principles apply.We're talking about:how Belinda's first year in business taught her some hard truths about getting her financials in place - making $100k but not paying herself or bringing in actual revenuethe challenge of separating your self-worth from your net worth and why it's important to not relegate yourself in your relationship if your partner is the breadwinnerwhy undercharging isn't doing your business any favors and why it's actually bringing down your perceived valuethe unconscious belief in the spiritual community that wealthy people are bad, and how you can reverse that and let your profits power your purposeRemember: you're not a bad person or wrong for not knowing about money. So many of us women never were taught these skills! And it's never too late to learn them — and the right mindset to go with them.LINKSJoin my new instagram broadcast channel, The Activation!I'm opening up Fully Alive Summer, a 12-week experience for the woman who wants momentum, expression, visibility, embodiment, and community — and who's just fucking tired of taking everything so seriously. Doors close on May 15, so get the details and sign up here.Connect with Belinda:Get the Pay Yourself Calculator to see what your business actually needs to make to support the pay you want – especially as you grow.Join the Rich Business Bootcamp from May 11-15! In 5 days, discover the upgraded financial system to keep more revenue in your pocket and set you up to scale to $500K+ without running yourself into the ground.Instagram: @ownyourmoneyWebsite: ownyourmoney.comThe Magnetic Rebellion is my supportive, soul-seeking community that lets you explore the path of transformation aligned specifically to YOU. Join The Magnetic Rebellion!Work with me 1:1 in my Sacred Design private mentorship: Book a call here.Visit AdrianaKeefe.com to download your free Human Design bodygraph, book a chart reading, and more!Check out my YouTube channel for bonus chart readings and episodes!Connect with me on Instagram @adrikeefeI'm DYINGGG to get to know you better so I'd love for you to hang around: Subscribe, share, and review this episode!

May feels like a weird time of year. Real shit energy. Almost halfway through 2026 and you might not want to face the facts.This episode is different. I'm answering real questions from my mastermind clients - the stuff they're actually asking me in Voxer, Slack, and on our calls.If one of my clients is feeling it, I know you are too.

Should a good copywriter make you rich?If you've ever wondered whether your copywriter is actually good, this episode gives you permission to stop measuring by the wrong metrics.I had such an interesting conversation in a Voxer chat that I knew I had to bring it to the podcast: "Should I evaluate how good a conversion copywriter is by how much revenue they generate?"This got me thinking about everything I've learned and experienced over the last seven years as a DFY conversion copywriter. The truth is, most founders don't know how to evaluate whether a copywriter is actually good. So they reach for the easiest metric: revenue. In this episode, we're breaking down what actually determines whether a conversion copywriter is doing good work, why revenue isn't always the right measure, and how you can know if you're getting real value from your investment in copywriting. Whether you're considering hiring a copywriter or you're already working with one and wondering if it's actually working, this is a practical, honest conversation you need to hear.This is for you if you've wondered:Is my copywriter actually good, or is the problem somewhere else in my funnel?Should I be evaluating a copywriter based on the revenue they generate?If a copywriter is so talented, why aren't they rich themselves?How do I know if the copy did its job?What am I actually supposed to measure when hiring or evaluating a copywriter?Is it possible that great copy exists inside a broken marketing system?Who is responsible for marketing results?➡️ SHOW NOTES: Grab all the links and resources mentioned in this episode on the blog here! https://www.megankachigan.com/hire-conversion-copywriter-metricsFREE RESOURCE: Copy not converting? Increase your conversion rate in 5-minutes a day when you join my free 5-day challenge “Why Isn't This Converting?”CONNECT WITH MEGAN:Join My Inbox Community → www.megankachigan.com/email Website → www.megankachigan.comLinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/megan-kachigan-loehr-9957684b/Threads → https://www.threads.net/@megankachiganInstagram → https://www.instagram.com/megankachigan/Join the Why Isn't This Converting?" Free 5-Day challenge to get more clients from your copy by clicking here! Know exactly what to fix in your copywriting with this "Why Isn't This Converting?" Free 5-Day Challenge. You'll get bite-sized email prompts where you'll apply one simple, high-impact fix in just minutes to make your content convert without having to re-write everything or constantly guess at what's going to work.

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what it really looks like to say yes before you're ready… even when your nervous system is wanting to hold out for certainty.I share the wild, kismet kind of story of how I unexpectedly ended up invited into my very first art show, “The Mothership,” and why I said yes - even though I had no piece made, no plan in place, and a whole lot of self-doubt.I walk you through the magic of following the red threads of connection, trusting your Spiritual Team on the Job (STOTJ), and letting ideas rise up from that quiet, liminal space between sleeping and waking… dreaming and doing.I also share how Bob Ross has been my gentle creative companion in this whole process -and- read you some of his simple but powerful wisdom that's been helping me calm the inner critic and keep on creating.If you've been feeling the nudge to write, make art, start something new, or stretch outside your comfort zone…But you've been waiting to feel “ready”- then this one's a little encouraging love letter from my creative heart to yours. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

In this episode, Jeni revisits one of her favorite financial frameworks — Profit First by Mike Michalowicz — just in time for wedding season. Whether you're just starting out or scaling your floral business, this system can help you finally pay yourself consistently and build a profitable business.What You'll Learn:The core principle of Profit First: allocating revenue into dedicated "buckets" (bank accounts) before expensesThe 5 key accounts: Income, Sales Tax, Owner's Compensation, Profit, and Operating Expenses (OPEX)How to calculate your percentages based on your actual gross salesHow to handle sales tax as a florist (especially with variable local tax rates)The difference between gross and net sales — and why it matters for your allocationsHow to conduct an expense audit to find hidden or unnecessary costsWhat to do if you're not yet profitable — and how to use a percentage-based formula to start building profit from your very first eventWhy a separate, less-accessible profit/savings account (like a Schwab Simple Plan) helps prevent overspendingThe mindset shift from "spending money to grow" to running your business like a CEOResources Mentioned:

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what it really looks like to show up for yourself and others even when you don't feel like it.I share how a “meh” start to my morning turned into both a strength training workout and a new podcast episode!It was also a reminder of the exponential impact and importance of keeping our word to ourselves and how that decision builds self-trust, self-discipline, and an identity of being “the kind of person who” follows through.If we can create some consistency and build some momentum - especially on the days when we'd rather be whiny, make excuses, or bail…It will not only empower and encourage us to keep going - it will also improve our personal and professional relationship with others!KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what it means to find the new ​"right distance​" in ​our relationships​.Whether ​t​hat's choosing to be ​w​icked close​ to some people - while having to keep a few other humans a little ​bit at arm's length​. The thing is, sometimes being all up close and cozy is where it's at - and ​sometimes what we need to do consider is if it makes more sense to go ​"no contact​" for a while. I share why communication breakdowns, unacknowledged feelings, and old trauma patterns​ can make us rethink how close we can safely be with certain people, including ​our own family.I also dive into ​setting boundaries without being reactive, ​how we can give ​ourselves space for clarity​ to come through, and ​the willingness to stay open ​(if ​t​hat's truly right for you) ​f​or the possibility of reconciliation​ and repair​.​While we often wish for there to be respectful communication and connection with those we care about - sometimes we have to simply walk away with love​. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

"Colin, how did you get connected to these big names you've collaborated and worked this? People like Amy Porterfield, Jenna Kutcher, Anthony O'Neal and Carrie Green?" Here's the honest answer nobody wants to hear: I paid to be in the same room as them. Not like... I didn't bribe anyone. I paid to be in masterminds, programs, and conferences where these people were. Then I didn't act like a fan. I acted like a peer. In this episode of The Expert Edge, I break down how to build a highly valuable network without being creepy, needy, or manipulative. More than 50% of my business success has come from relationships and friendships I've intentionally built in this industry - and I'm sharing exactly how I did it. I walk through the mindset shifts, tactical strategies, and energy you need to bring when networking. This isn't about manipulation or playing games. It's about deciding that building relationships is important, investing to be in the right rooms, and showing up from a place of abundance instead of scarcity. What you'll learn: → Why you need to pay to be in the room (and why almost every major relationship requires investment) → How to come from abundance instead of scarcity (people can smell neediness from a mile away) → The 60-day check-in system: How to stay connected without being weird (Instagram, WhatsApp, Voxer, then text) → The hallway hack: Where the most influential people hang out during conference sessions (spoiler: not in their seats) → Why showing up as a fan kills your chance of becoming a peer or partner → The law of reciprocity: How having a podcast (or platform) creates natural collaboration opportunities → How to transition from "person at the event" to "person they text when they're in town" Real insights from the episode: Why conferences should be 80% about meeting people and 20% about content How to reach out to people in paid programs you're already in (the 15-minute catch-up framework) Why market value and personal value are different (and how to leverage both) The Instagram to WhatsApp to text progression for building relationship intimacy Why starting a podcast was less about building an audience and more about having a platform to offer value to people Colin wanted relationships with Interested in working with me directly to scale your Expert business? That's exactly what we do inside ELITE.  If you're interested in finding out more information and applying. https://colinboyd.co/elite Discover how to authentically connect with your audience & fill your programs with a Conversion Story - Version 2.0 (AI Edition) is now available. https://www.conversionstoryformula.com Hit the "Follow" button so you don't miss an episode! Love this podcast? Write a review and give it a 5-star rating!  For all the show notes and links: https://www.expertedgepodcast.com/blog/episode316 Connect with Colin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/colinboyd/  

Have you ever wondered what working with a mentor actually looks and feels like over time? Lydia Fine is back as our first-ever returning guest. She's a purposely part-time photographer with a full-time marketing career and two kids, and over the past few years she and I have worked together across just about every format. In this episode, she breaks down exactly what that journey has looked like: the doubts going in, the breakthrough that changed how she thought about her business, the numbers, and what it's meant for her life outside the business. We also get into the harder questions — when someone is actually ready for mentoring, how to choose the right person, and what you have to be willing to bring to it. Lydia now mentors other photographers herself, specifically around systems and marketing strategies for part-time photographers, so her perspective comes from sitting on both sides of the table.   Find It Quickly: 2:30 - Where Lydia started: lack of confidence, scared to raise prices, feeling alone in decision-making 7:00 - The first doubt: was mentoring worth the cost if she was just making $15k a year? 9:00 - The 2024 breakthrough: you don't have to compete on photos alone 15:00 - How she helped me form my Voxer coaching package around making micro decisions and the in-between moments 21:00 - "Like a therapist for my business" 26:00 - The numbers: revenue doubled, then grew another 50% 30:00 - From $300 sessions to $1,025 to $1,850 (and her first $2k+ booking) 33:00 - When is someone ready for mentoring? 38:00 - How to choose the right mentor — and what to avoid 43:00 - Intentional rest, boundaries, and how support has helped her be a more present parent Mentioned in this Episode: PhotoFuel Retreat & Mastermind: www.leahoconnell.com/retreat 1:1 Mentoring: leahoconnell.com/education Illuminate Courses: illuminateclasses.com Connect with Lydia: Photography Instagram: @lydia_apolloandivy Education Instagram: lydiafine_forphotographers Mentoring with Lydia: https://www.apolloandivy.com/for-photographers/photography-business-mentor/

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about why it's so important to stop believing everyone else's opinions and to start finding out for yourself what rings true for you.I share some wicked funny and surprising stories from a recent “experiment” I did selling my stuff online.I dive into how these real-life encounters with total strangers reminded me that people are far more complex, interesting, and kind than the internet (and our assumptions) make them out to be!I also invite you to get curious about some of the beliefs you've inherited - maybe from your family, our culture, and even the so-called online “experts”...And to consider how your life might change in wonderful ways if you trusted your own discernment, direct experience, and big beautiful human heart a whole lot more. ❤️BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

“You can check out anytime you'd like, but you can never leeeeaaaave” Originally aired 5/17/22 What's so scary about hotels? Is it the being away from home? Is it the idea that you don't know who's there with you? Is it the idea that someone could be watching you? Books Mentioned: The Return by Rachel Harrison Horror Hotel by Victoria Fulton and Faith McClaren The Nightly Disease by Max Booth III The Summer Job by Adam Cesare The Last by Hanna Jameson The Grand Hotel by Scott Kenemore Security by Gina Wohlsdorf Deadfall Hotel by Steve Rasnic Tem Creepers by David Morrell The Resort by Bentley Little Psycho (trilogy) by Robert Bloch When the Reckoning Comes by LaTanya McQueen A Certain Hunger by Chelsea G. Summers Tender is the Flesh by Agustine Bazterrica Nightbitch by Rachel Yoder Final Girl Song Jocelyn picked “666” by Anvil for her third final girl song. Really getting into those kids with bikes vibes. Check it out here! How to support Books in the Freezer We are on Patreon! Check us out! There's a lot of fun going on in the Patreon community. At the Final Girl level you can get episodes early and find out about topics and guests beforehand. Axe-Wielding Maniacs get to be part of a Voxer group chat and join in Netflix movie nights. Malevolent Spirits get everything that's been mentioned and bonus episodes! Do you use Amazon? Use the podcast link when you make any purchases, for an easy way to support the podcast! The links for this episode are using the podcast affiliate link. Are you a fan of audiobooks? Libro FM is a great way to listen to audiobooks and support your local bookstore! You can use code FREEZERBOOK at checkout and you can get TWO audiobooks for the price of one ($14.99)! It's a great deal and a great way to be a part of supporting local businesses

There's an even deeper story behind my $100K month… and it wasn't from doing more.In this episode, I'm sharing how everything shifted when I stopped forcing and started honoring my design as a Projector - waiting for the invitation - which led to the exact opportunity that changed everything.This all aligned with my Personal Year 2 in numerology - the year of collaboration.And when you understand the energetic theme of your year?You stop pushing… and start moving in alignment.Inside, I break down:• The energetics behind my $100K month• How Human Design & numerology guided my next level• The collective energy we're all in right now• How to find your own Personal Year numberThis is your reminder: your power is in your alignment.--Sign up for The Expansion Room by Midnight on April 6th to receive special podcast listener pricing & receive 1 additional Voxer access day PER WEEK!Coupons: The Threshold / The Private ChambersWILDFIRE Retreat: A Quantum & Alchemical recalibration - Where suppressed power is released & your next level finally takes hold. All guests receive one month FREE inside The Expansion Room for extra integration!--Let's connect! To see what else I'm up to, get more info on my latest offerings, and updates on my life and the podcast, follow me on Instagram: @thedeannamerlinoDon't forget to leave the podcast a written review wherever you listen and take a screenshot of it (do this before you hit send or it will disappear for a few days!) and email it to me at theempoweredcoach333@gmail.com to receive my FREE & potent Manifestation Vault with 15 tools!!!All other programs/offerings: www.deannamerlino.com

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about why ​"you can't get there ​from here​."​Especially when​ "there" is a new way of thinking, being, and doing and “here” is you clinging to your same old ​stories, ​beliefs, and behaviors.Telling a ​tale about a snowy dead-end street​ in my hometown, showing a ​fun stick-figure drawing​ that I did, and sharing some down-to-earth spiritual tools​...I dive into how taking tiny baby steps, developing some self-awareness, and committing to a simple ​Daily ​Spiritual ​Practice​ (DSP) can help you ​to finally let go of what's familiar ​- so you can actually become the person you say you want to be​!KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

When you are podcasting for your business, how you approach podcasting looks different from influencer and hobby podcasters. Your focus and goals are vastly different, which means you can't use the same strategies as someone seeking podcast sponsorships and brand deals. This is exactly why I created the Evergreen Marketing Accelerator. The core focus is on podcast strategy for business owners. In this episode, I'm answering some FAQs about the Accelerator. If you've been on the fence about joining the Accelerator, this episode is for you. Tomorrow, April 1, 2026, is the last day to join before the doors close for 6 months and to grab the Pinterest profile set-up bonus. In this episode, I'm giving you all the tea on:How the Accelerator helps you build a podcast strategy for business ownersWho the Accelerator is forThe level of support you receive inside the AcceleratorResources Mentioned in Today's Episode:Evergreen Marketing AcceleratorHave more questions about the Accelerator? Contact me using one of the following methods to get your questions answered: Voxer, send a DM on Instagram or Threads, or email: hello@mamaturnedmompreneur.comRelated Episodes and Blog Posts:Episode 281Episode 283Episode 285Episode 287 Ways I Can Serve You:Join the Evergreen Marketing Era NewsletterEvergreen Marketing AcceleratorVIP Podcast LaunchMonthly Podcast ManagementRecommended Podcast + Business Tools:Email Marketing: Flodesk (14-day Free Trial)Podcast Hosting: Captivate (7-Day Free Trial) Recommended Keyword Research Platform: Keysearch.coCRM: Dubsado (Save 20% on your first month or year)Website Builder: Showit (30-Day Free Trial)Some of the above links are affiliate links, meaning I may earn a small commission at no additional cost to you.For show notes and resources mentioned in today's episode, head to www.mamaturnedmompreneur.com/episode296/Connect with Andria:Threads: @evergreenmarketingeraInstagram: @evergreenmarketingeraEmail: hello@mamaturnedmompreneur.comWebsite: www.mamaturnedmompreneur.com

If you've been wondering why sales feel slow, why momentum feels off, why the content you're putting out isn't converting... the answer is probably not your copy. It's probably not your offer. It's probably not your messaging.It's visibility. And it's the first thing we let go of when life gets full.In this episode, we're talking about one of the most fundamental (and most overlooked) pillars of sustainable business growth. And just maybe the thing that's been running (or stalling) your results for months.If your business is feeling slow right now, this is your loving kick in the pants, and the permission slip to stop overhauling everything and start with the one thing that actually moves the needle.TOPICS WE EXPLORE:Why visibility is the last thing you should cut when life gets busy, and why it's almost always the first thing to goThe business lag truth: why what you're experiencing in your sales right now is almost never about what you're doing todayThe wellness parallel: how neglecting visibility is exactly like neglecting your body… you'll pay the tab eventuallyWhat to do when your “full” season means you can't maintain your old visibility rhythm (hint: adapt it, don't drop it)The consistency compound effect, why coming back to something you've let go is always harder than staying in it at a lower levelReal examples of what scaled-down visibility can look like when you're in a full seasonAsh's quarterly audit practice and how she uses it to catch visibility gaps before they cost herTHE POINT:The question isn't whether you can afford to prioritize visibility, it's whether you can afford not to. MENTIONED:Episode 182 — Perfectionism in High-Achieving Women: Why Doing Less Gets Better Results (the episode Ash references throughout)Episode 183 — Luteal Phase Meditation (bonus episode)The Clarity Intensive: 90 minutes one-on-one with Ash + 2 weeks of Voxer support. Only 1 spot left for Q2.Are you loving it? Send Ash a text! MORE ABOUT ASHI am the definition of duality — I swear like a sailor and break rules like it's my job, but I also hold incredible space for my clients and work my ass off to help them achieve the success they're after. But I'm also here for the non-preneur woman, too. My background in counseling gives me a unique perspective on what it means to show up, serve, & create connection for those who feel like they've never belonged before.LINKS:Become the Regulated WomanGet emails that feel like your best friend (if your best friend was a therapist and actually told you the truth).Use code BB20 to get The Burnout Breakthrough for only $7Follow me on IG (dropping in once a quarter for updates & gossip)Website: ashmcdonaldmentoring.comWork with me 1:1 Therapeutic Mentorship Business Therapy (therapy + strategic mentorship)

In today's episode, I continue my story after returning from an 18-month podcast hiatus, diving deeper into the pivotal moments that led to my first $100,000 month. I share candid insights about navigating business struggles, personal growth, and energetic breakthroughs - taking you behind the scenes of my journey from near-financial crisis to MASSIVE abundance!Sign up for The Expansion Room by Midnight on April 6th to receive special podcast listener pricing & receive 1 additional Voxer access day PER WEEK!Coupons: The Threshold / The Private ChambersWILDFIRE Retreat: A Quantum & Alchemical recalibration - Where suppressed power is released & your next level finally takes hold. All guests receive one month FREE inside The Expansion Room for extra integration!--Let's connect! To see what else I'm up to, get more info on my latest offerings, and updates on my life and the podcast, follow me on Instagram: @thedeannamerlinoDon't forget to leave the podcast a written review wherever you listen and take a screenshot of it (do this before you hit send or it will disappear for a few days!) and email it to me at theempoweredcoach333@gmail.com to receive my FREE & potent Manifestation Vault with 15 tools!!!All other programs/offerings: www.deannamerlino.com

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about the power of enough - the radical, life-changing shift that happens when we stop chasing the elusive “more-more-more” and start recognizing and appreciating what we already have.I share one of my favorite stories from Kurt Vonnegut about Joseph Heller, and how Heller's one line, “I've got something he can never have… the knowledge that I've got enough,” has stayed with me for years!We dive into a little wisdom from the Stoics, the yogic​ principle of ​Santosha (contentment), and discuss how our endless comparisons and cravings can leave us feeling spiritually and emotionally impoverished, even if we've got a bunch of buckaroonies $$$ in our bank account.I also invite you to find your own “Goldilocks” level of enough-ess and to notice if a lack of gratitude might be keeping you unsatiated and unsatisfied.I also share a simple 5-minute Gratitude Visualization practice to start shifting how you see yourself and your life. It's amazing what a few “Thank you's” can do!If you've ever felt like who you are, what you have, or where you're at is never quite enough…This episode is an invitation to pause, to take ​some personal inventory, and to remember that you're already way more “enough” than you've been led to believe. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, speaker, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self​-development, and transformational work.Karen helps people to navigate this whole “being human” experience using practical tools, universal principles and stories, and a variety of resources.KK has been a yoga teacher for 25+ years, has been giving Thai Yoga Massage since 2008, and began teaching it in 2015.She's also a Gateless Writing Instructor, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and via her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS using Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

In this episode, we're going deep on perfectionism…so you can actually work with it rather than against. If you've ever tried to "just do less" and found yourself either paralyzed or doing everything again two days later, this one's for you. This is about high-functioning burnout recovery, breaking the all-or-nothing cycle, and learning to use experimentation (not willpower) to finally find your middle ground. You'll also hear Ash's own experiment: how she went from working around the clock to working in set hours, and what her brain told her would happen vs. what actually did. TOPICS WE EXPLORE:Why perfectionism and control are soul sistersThe all-or-nothing pendulum that keeps high-achieving women cycling between burnout and paralysis (and why "just half-ass it" is actually not a safe option for your nervous system)Young achievers and the wounds underneath: how being celebrated for performance as a kid shows up in your business todayThe experiment reframe: why your brain can get on board with testing a theory when it absolutely cannot get on board with letting things be "good enough"How capacity-based planning and quarterly reflection can be your permission slip to do less without everything falling apartThe external perfectionism trap: why stress-cleaning your house or perfecting your Canva graphic won't fix what's swirling on the insideWhat actually happens when you work within limits, and why the evidence that doing less gets better results is already there, waiting for you to look for itWhy each new season of life requires a new strategy (hello, three kids in approximately one million sports

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what I'm calling ​"your own personal Fight Club​" – that private, often silent battle that every single one of us is d​ucking, bobbing, and weaving and sometimes still getting knocked on our ass by.I share a wicked ​​familiar driving story (​u​se your feckin' blinkah'!!!​

Can AI really replace human coaches and freelancers? In this episode, I break down why coaching, and many freelance services, require the irreplaceable human touch. Key Points Covered: Why coaches facilitate rather than prescribe solutions The importance of body language, tone, and non-verbal cues How lived experience trumps algorithmic responses The ethics and values alignment you can't get from AI Why accountability works better with humans How this applies to other freelance services (graphic design, social media management, photography) AI is a tool for information, not transformation. Real coaching, and most freelance work, requires empathy, adaptability, and genuine human connection that algorithms simply can't replicate. Work With Me: Explore coaching packages Voxer accountability packages Traditional 1-on-1 coaching (Zoom or in-person in Berkshire) The Freelance Business Lounge membership - £30/month with 2 group calls per week Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 0:26 - Why do we need coaches when we have AI? 2:15 - AI gives information vs coaching helps you process 4:24 - AI lacks lived experience and ethical considerations 6:29 - Human accountability and empathy matter 8:11 - Why AI can't replace creative freelance work 9:22 - Coaching packages and membership info Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Bluesky Email: hello@emmacossey.com  Come join us in the free Freelance Lifestylers Facebook group Want more support? Check out the Freelance Lifestyle School courses and membership. Join the Freelance Lifestyle Discord Community: https://discord.gg/RKYkReS5Cz Order my book: The Freelance Lifestyle: Your Friendly Guide to Starting a Freelance Business

What if the reason your business still feels harder than it should… is that you're still relying on launches to do all the heavy lifting? In this special training replay, Claire breaks down the $50K 4-Part Funnel — the framework she teaches inside Get Paid Marketing to help course creators and online business owners build a more reliable system for leads and sales. In this episode, Claire walks through the 4 funnel types she recommends, how ads fit into the bigger picture, why evergreen usually comes first, and the messaging issue that keeps a lot of funnels from converting. She also shares what's inside Get Paid Marketing, who it's for, and how to apply for the April 2026 cohort. In this episode: the 4-part funnel Claire teaches inside GPM why launches alone can create a revenue ceiling how evergreen, launch, and list-growth funnels work together the messaging issue that hurts cold traffic conversions what's included inside Get Paid Marketing the early enrollment bonus and pay-in-full bonus Ready to go deeper? Apply for Get Paid Marketing here: clairepells.com/getpaid If you officially claim your spot in the April 2026 cohort and make a payment before end of day Monday, March 23rd, you'll get the Early Enrollment Bonus: a 60-Minute Funnel Content Intensive. This is a private call with the team to help you build out the content for your next funnel in just 60 minutes, so you can get unstuck and map out what goes where in real time. If you choose the pay-in-full option, you'll also get the Pay-in-Full Bonus: Launch Voxer Coaching — 2 weeks of private Voxer access with Claire, available twice during your 12 months in GPM: Week 1: the 7 days before your next launch Week 2: the 7 days after cart close This is real-time support for mindset, strategy, and feedback during some of the most crucial moments in your business.

What if the reason your business still feels harder than it should… is that you're still relying on launches to do all the heavy lifting? In this special training replay, Claire breaks down the $50K 4-Part Funnel — the framework she teaches inside Get Paid Marketing to help course creators and online business owners build a more reliable system for leads and sales. In this episode, Claire walks through the 4 funnel types she recommends, how ads fit into the bigger picture, why evergreen usually comes first, and the messaging issue that keeps a lot of funnels from converting. She also shares what's inside Get Paid Marketing, who it's for, and how to apply for the April 2026 cohort. In this episode: the 4-part funnel Claire teaches inside GPM why launches alone can create a revenue ceiling how evergreen, launch, and list-growth funnels work together the messaging issue that hurts cold traffic conversions what's included inside Get Paid Marketing the early enrollment bonus and pay-in-full bonus Ready to go deeper? Apply for Get Paid Marketing here: clairepells.com/getpaid If you officially claim your spot in the April 2026 cohort and make a payment before end of day Monday, March 23rd, you'll get the Early Enrollment Bonus: a 60-Minute Funnel Content Intensive. This is a private call with the team to help you build out the content for your next funnel in just 60 minutes, so you can get unstuck and map out what goes where in real time. If you choose the pay-in-full option, you'll also get the Pay-in-Full Bonus: Launch Voxer Coaching — 2 weeks of private Voxer access with Claire, available twice during your 12 months in GPM: Week 1: the 7 days before your next launch Week 2: the 7 days after cart close This is real-time support for mindset, strategy, and feedback during some of the most crucial moments in your business.

There's a moment that happens in many women's businesses that isn't talked about very often. She's not a beginner anymore. She has already built something. She's showing up, creating content, selling, and taking action, but the effort she's putting into the business no longer seems to match the results she's getting back. At this stage, most women assume they simply need to do more. More visibility. More content. More platforms. More effort. But in reality, what's often happening is much quieter than that. The business itself has slowly drifted out of alignment with the woman leading it. In this episode I walk through four unconscious patterns she frequently sees inside women's businesses when things start to feel heavier than they should. These patterns are subtle, but once you see them, it becomes much easier to understand what actually needs to change. You'll also hear the deeper questions that can help you step back and recalibrate your business so the structure, strategy, and systems are supporting the level of leadership you're stepping into now. This is the exact kind of work I do inside My Business Alignment Intensives, a focused 90-minute private session + 1-week of private Voxer coaching designed to help women look at their business clearly and identify what truly needs to shift. If you've been taking action but feel like something underneath the surface isn't quite working anymore, this episode will help you see your business from a new perspective. Book your Business Alignment Intensive A 90-minute private strategy session designed to help you recalibrate the structure, strategy, and direction of your business. https://www.kerikugler.com/intensive Conscious Women in Business — Live Event Join Keri in St. Louis for an in-person gathering for women building thoughtful, intentional businesses. https://www.kerikugler.com/consciouswomeninbusiness

The Marketing Sprint is back — 30 days of intentional, consistent marketing designed to get you results fast. Join now and grab the $500 Voxer bonus before it expires.Grab your spot at www.peggyrejames.com/marketing-sprintReady to work less and make more through a scalable business model? Enrollment is open for GROW Business & Marketing Academy - Click here to join. Connect with me on Instagram: @peggyrejames Join the community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sixfigureshiftcommunity/

Titus 3:3-8 NIV “At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.”   *Transcription Below*   Hunter Beless is an author of several children's books including Read It, See It, Say It, Sing It! and Amy Carmichael: The Brown-Eyed Girl Who Learned to Pray. She is also a Bible teacher, co-author of Titus: Displaying the Gospel of Grace and the founder of Journeywomen Ministries, which empowers women to live out their faith through deep commitment to their local church. Hunter hosts the Journeywomen Podcast, sharing resources and insightful conversations with women of faith. She and her husband, Brooks, have four beautiful children, whom Hunter homeschools. You can find her on Instagram @hunterbeless, or at https://www.hunterbeless.com/books. Journeywomen Podcast   Thank You to Our Sponsor: The Sue Neihouser Team   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website   Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast!   Questions and Topics We Cover: 1. What rhythms have been most profitable to you (spiritually, relationally, physically, and productively?)  2. In your own home, how have you intentionally helped your children know and love God through Scripture?  3. How is the Gospel useful for not only salvation, but also sanctification?   Similar Episodes from The Savvy Sauce: 16 Reflecting Jesus in Our Relationships with Rach Kincaid 57 Implementing Bite-Size Habits That Will Change Your Life with Author, Blogger, Podcaster, and Speaker, Kat Lee 150 Brain Science and Spiritual Abundance with Ken Baugh 166 Journey from Empty to Well Nourished Soul with Gretchen Saffles  207 Cultivating Character in Our Children with Cynthia Yanof Special Patreon Release Wholehearted Quiet Time with Naomi Vacaro 267 Apologetics with Ray Comfort 274 Holy Spirit Stories and Fruit and Ways to Identify His Guidance in Our Lives with Margaret Feinberg   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”   Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:11)   Laura Dugger: (0:12 - 1:16) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here.   Thank you to the Sue Neihouser Team for sponsoring this episode. If you're looking to buy or sell a home this season, make sure you reach out to Sue at 309-229-8831. Sue would love to walk alongside you as you unlock new doors.   My guest for today is Hunter Beless, and you may recognize her as the founder of Journey Women Ministries. She's also a podcaster and an author of multiple books, including this recent one, Jesus Loves You More. Hunter is going to share today about all things discipleship.   Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Hunter.    Hunter Beless: (1:17 - 1:23) Thank you so, much for having me. I just love the concept of this show, and I'm excited to be here with you today.    Laura Dugger: (1:23 - 1:56) Well, I've been looking so, forward to getting to chat with you. You've been on my list for years, so, I'm thankful this worked out. And even, it may have been years ago, but I heard you publicly share that you had chosen to put your faith in Christ in elementary school, I believe. But then as you transitioned into high school, you were open about then choosing to pursue the ways of the world. So, will you just speak to that experience and talk to that teenage girl who's currently facing some similar temptations?    Hunter Beless: (1:56 - 6:39) Oh, that'd be such a privilege to get to speak to any young woman who is in a situation like this. I often think, like, if I would have just had one older friend who was encouraging me in the Lord, who would be willing to testify to God's grace in her life, and who would reach back and try and help me just to continue walking in the grace that he had extended to me through his son, like, I wonder if it would have gone differently for me, Laura. But, you know, the Lord did save me at a young age, and I lived fervently for him, loved God's word, even from a young age.    And I remember, like, seeing groups of people that I wanted to like me, and wanting so, desperately to be accepted by them. But knowing that when I opened the pages of scripture, the Holy Spirit brought conviction to my heart in a way that would not allow me to act in accordance with the things that these groups were doing, in order to be approved of by them. And so, I thought to myself, "Well, maybe I'll just stop reading my Bible so, much." This is about eighth or ninth grade. And, you know, then I won't feel a sense of conviction when it comes to, like, these behaviors that I know I need to, you know, adapt to, in order to be approved of by the people that I deemed, you know, significant. And so, I set my Bible aside.    And it's a really sad story. I mean, as I continued to spend time outside of God's word, I would still go to church with my family and things like that on Sunday mornings. But I just began to look less and less like a follower of Christ, and more and more like the world. And eventually, you know, I spent my entire duration of my high school years doing that. And I have to tell you; I just went back to my 20-year high school reunion. And there was a girl that I saw there. And she told me what a jerk I was in that season of my life. And it was such a wonderful thing to be reminded of what it looks like for me to not be walking in the Spirit, but to be walking in the flesh. And to really have to reckon with, that is what it looks like to be walking like the world.    And I just told her, I said, "You know what, you're completely right." I said, "I was." I was totally looking out for my good and not for the good of others. I was absolutely living for myself and not for the Lord. But by God's grace, when it came time for my senior year of high school, he allowed me to get to the end of myself. And you would have thought, like, looking back, I had the resume, I had the 4.0, I had the salutatorian status, I was the president of my high school senior class. You would have thought, this girl's crushing it. But I had never been more anxious, more depressed, more insecure, more selfish, obviously, as testified to by the girl that I just referenced, than I was in that season of my life.    And I remember I had a youth pastor who had just come into our church. And he said, "Hey," he said, "How's your time in the word looking?" And I said, "Well, I could either lie, or I could tell the truth." And I said, "You know, it's looking pretty, pretty bleak." And he said, "I just want to challenge you to get back in God's word." And at the same time, my dad had a tragic accident. It was a near death accident. And I was kind of reckoned with the brevity of life as a senior in high school. And I cried out to the Lord. And I said, "God, if you really are who you say you are, would you show me who you are through your word?"    And that sparked, Laura, this passion for God's word. And it allowed me then to see the difference in my own life, what it looks like for Hunter to be walking without listening to the voice of God, and what it looked like for Hunter to have her face in her Bible, and to seek to live by God's word. And I tell you what, I probably don't look nearly as impressive by the world's standards. But the joy and the peace, and really just the transformation that the Lord has accomplished in my life through his word, is something that I cannot stop testifying to. And I just cannot encourage women enough, like if you are wrestling with the flesh, to get into God's word, because God works by the power of the Holy Spirit through his word in the lives of his people. And so, that's why really this whole passion has just overtaken my life for God's word.    Laura Dugger: (6:40 - 6:59) Wow, that is incredible to hear that transformation, because God did it, and God can do it again. And God can do it for each one of us listening. But you are so passionate about discipling others. Can you first tell us, what were some of the significant ways that you've been discipled?    Hunter Beless: (7:00 - 10:07) Yeah, well, I went to college, and that was the first time that I had ever really had someone seeking to do spiritual good in my life, outside of my parents. And really, even with my parents, like, you know, sitting down intentionally studying the word, that wasn't a part of our family culture. And so, when I went to college, there was a girl, her name was Meredith. And I remember, she sat down, and she taught me how to read my Bible, for really the very first time. I remember being confronted with some of the truths of scripture, Laura, and I'm like, "That's in the Bible? That disrupts me. Like, I didn't know that, you know?" And so, it was such a wonderful time, just of really kind of being confronted with my own theological ideas from my, you know, lack of ability and time to really understand the message of the text, you know, and then to really reevaluate that and be conformed to the text and to allow it to conform me. So, Meredith had a significant influence in my life in how to study the Bible.    And then I had an older woman named Joyce, who at the time, I believe, was in her late 40s, maybe early 50s. And I just remember, Joyce found out that I began to memorize scripture. So, somewhere along the way, I realized, like, this book is so, significant that I need to start, you know, hiding scripture away in my heart. Some of that was just watching my own grandmother and seeing the way that the Lord had used scripture in her own life. And realizing, like, wow, if my grandmother has these truths hidden away in her heart for this season, and she had dementia, I need to start hiding scripture away in my heart, too. So, Joyce and I really, we started up a group on scripture memory.    And I'll never forget the first time I met her, she said, "Hey, I heard you're starting to memorize Ephesians." I never finished. But she said, "Let's hear it." And so, she just opened up her Bible. And I just started quoting Ephesians. And one of Joyce's coined phrases that at the time I didn't realize was actually scripture itself, she would hold the Bible out in front of me. And she would say, "Hunter, this is no empty word for you, but your very life." And she had so many phrases like that, that I didn't even realize at the time, because I was pretty biblically illiterate, that were the words of scripture themselves. That's Deuteronomy 32:47. And Joyce really embodied that message for me, that scripture is that man doesn't live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God. And so, watching her just live with her face in her Bible, proverbially speaking, and seeking to meditate on its truths and live by those day in and day out really transformed who I am even today. And she gave me a picture of what I'd like to look like years down the road.    So, I've had various mentors, but those are some of the first. And the Lord definitely used them in significant ways to do spiritual good in my life.    Laura Dugger: (10:08 - 10:36) And I don't know what kind of life those women lead if they're in public or more private disciplines, but their faithfulness, you just see the impact how it ripples out to bless generations. And even you, Hunter, you're leading this incredible ministry, where you disciple others through helping women know and love God through his word. So, will you share how you ended up getting to do this awesome work that you get to do today?    Hunter Beless: (10:37 - 15:41) Oh, well, the beginnings of this, you would not have thought were awesome. And in fact, you and I were just chatting, and I still am recording out of my closet. And really, it's all just been an overflow of what the Lord has been doing in my own life. And I did feel like along the way, I just, I began to just love learning from older women. And I do think that's a biblical, like scriptural kind of practice. You look at Titus 2, you see the older women are to teach the younger women what is good. I was a younger woman who loved learning from older women. And so, I had this, over the years, this just long list of women who had invested in me who had, you know, testified to God's grace in their life, who had taught me the scriptures.    And when my husband Brooks and I were in the military, we found ourselves on post. And just due to the transiency of a military lifestyle, the churches around military installations tend to be a little bit tired, sometimes depleted, because people in the military are moving so, frequently. So, it's hard, right, to have continuity to see people through in their discipling process and all of that. And so, I really missed those mentors that I'd had from college, and the year after college, after coming into marriage. And so, I thought to myself, like, man, I want the other women. I was also interfacing with either believers or non-believers who really had never been discipled. And I thought, man, I just wish I could get you with Joyce, or I wish I could get you with Meredith. I wish I could connect you, you know, with X, Y, or Z woman from the past couple of years.    And so, I thought, I also simultaneously was listening to a lot of podcasts because I was super lonely. Just because, you know, moving into a new culture, and then my husband was gone at least 50% of the time for training or deployment. And so, I'd be walking along the military installation listening to like sermon audio, like John Piper or Timothy Keller or whatever. And I thought, man, I wish that there was a conversational podcast about theology for women that would just be more warm and kind of like what we're doing right now. And my husband was like, "Well, you should start it." And so, I just started with the women who had mentored me. If you go back to the very beginning of the podcast, it's truly like my college roommates. It's my mentors from Pine Cove Christian Camps where Brooks and I met.    And I think I just by God's grace, the podcasting network was so, small at the time. I remember Journey Women landed in the number two spot right behind Joel Osteen whenever the thing launched. And so, then from there, it just gave the podcast some notoriety, which is what then allowed, you know, some of the names that you would recognize to reach out and to say, "Hey, you know, could we come on the podcast?" And at the time, I had no knowledge of, you know, how to market people marketing books or any of that Bible studies, etc. And yeah, it was a really fun season, actually, because it was pre-COVID. And you know, people weren't used to doing a whole lot online. And so, had some really, really fun conversations. And along the way, the Lord has helped me to hone in more of a vision of what I'm doing. Because at first, it was just like, let's get in the closet and have like fun, intentional conversations that I could share with my girlfriends or with maybe the military spouse that I'm meeting on the playground that I may never see again, you know.    And then along the way, people started even wanting to donate to the podcast and different things like that. And I thought, I really need to have a clearer aim. And so, now, you know, over the past eight years, the Lord has given us this mission to help women know and love God through his word, to find their hope in the gospel and to invest deeply in their local churches as they go out on mission for the glory of God. And some of that came and Laura, I'm sure you face this from women really seeking out discipling online, and us realizing we can't disciple you. Like, we cannot come alongside you and help you to grow in godliness, you know, but we can do that via the interwebs. But the degree to which we're able to do that is super-duper limited. And so, what does it look like for us then to equip women so, that then they would be encouraged to seek out fellowship in the local church, and to be investing their time, energy and talents in the local church. And so, that's become kind of our resounding gong at Journey Women over the years, just because we really do believe that ministry happens best in the context of the local church. And that's something that the Lord has validated through seeing women reaching out online and realizing like, hey, we could never, you know, provide what they need. But God in his grace has given us the local body that is able to do that.    Laura Dugger: (15:42 - 19:08) So, well said, because this is a great place that we can meet people anytime what is most convenient for them with a podcast. But then also, so, that's great for sowing seeds. But there's nothing that replaces that embodied relationship. And it just makes me think of God that he created us that way. And he knew it because Jesus even being embodied, little baby sent to earth, so, nothing replaces that. 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And so, what it looks like practically, it's going to be a lot of time running from this or that event and just trying to do the things that I committed to before or some of the other things that the Lord has allowed in my life came to fruition. But just leaning into him for the grace that I need moment by moment, you know, and trusting that he is the same and that he has provided all of the grace that I need. His grace is sufficient for me, you know, as I'm running errands and facing the temptation to feel anxious or overwhelmed that, you know, I think it's Luke 12, where it's talking about how I can't even add a moment, not even the smallest amount of time to my life by worrying. So, I'm just going to entrust all of this to the Lord.    So, for me, I wonder how many women are listening to this and that they can relate to this because I talked to various people who they don't have a podcast, but they don't have the same work as me, but they feel that same temptation towards anxiety and the feelings of overwhelms that we all face, you know, and yeah, I think my life probably looks a lot like many of y'all's. And for me, it's just the constant meditation on scripture and just rehearsing the truths of God's word that are never changing, even in the midst of my ever-changing and chaotic circumstances. So, it doesn't seem to change even if I do a better job, which I could have done, planning my schedule or, you know, prayerfully considering the commitments that I made, but just resting and knowing that he is unchanging and that he is ever-present and that he is all-knowing and that he has provided everything that I need and his son.    So, that is what it looks like. Every day looks different, but again, leaning into the truths of God's word, meditating on those truths, rehearsing those truths over and over, and resting in the grace that the gospel provides. That's the thing that never changes.    Laura Dugger: (21:27 - 22:06) And I love that overview because if we look from the outside, you're homeschooling, you run this ministry, you have a podcast, and you're cooking healthy recipes for your family, but I'm sure do you also have weekly patterns? Because to me, it's a stewardship issue. You've been faithful with little, it sounds like, so, he has given you the opportunity to be faithful in much, and it's a season of much where you've written books and produced all this content. So, do you have a system in place or rhythms throughout the week that have helped you live that full, abundant life?    Hunter Beless: (22:06 - 24:19) Yeah, that's a really good question. Obviously, the weekly rhythm that we always start with is worshiping with the saints on Sunday. I look forward to that like no other. And we are in a church that the Lord is just so, gracious to have provided a pastor who prioritizes the preaching of the word and who is consistently proclaiming the gospel from the pulpit. And so, Laura, on the weeks where I feel like I have been so, busy that I have not spent the time in God's word that I would desire, just the recognition that going to church on a Sunday is such a blessing to get to receive God's word. And so, there have been many times that I just show up and I'm just like, "Thank you, Lord." Thank you for the provision of your word. Thank you for the provision of the body of Christ. And so, Sundays are just like a non-negotiable for us. We go to church on Sundays. And then, you know, we have various things. My kids are actually homeschooled on two days out of the week or three days out of the week. And then, they go to school two days. So, we do like a university model is what it's called. And so, on the three days that they are home, I am full tilt homeschooling, doing everything home-related.    And in fact, I have had to learn that part of their education is also helping care for our home. And so, we really see it as a team effort to keep the home, like, tidy and running and functioning well, so that we can, you know, spend as much time in it as we do, like, with happy hearts. And then, on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I typically am in this closet working while the children are at school. Saturdays, we rest together as a family. We spend a lot of time outdoors. I also make bread regularly. And I think there's something liturgical for me about making bread. And, like, when everything else feels, like, a little bit chaotic and out of my control, the beauty of just doing a simple task like making bread to provide food for my family and nourishment is something that really brings me great joy. So, Saturdays are also bread-making days. And then, the week begins again. That is awesome.    Laura Dugger: (24:19 - 24:41) I love hearing that. And it makes me curious to go even a little bit further. I'll give you a few categories, but I'd love to hear what rhythms in these categories have been most profitable to you. So, when you think of it spiritually, physically, relationally, and just productively, how you stay creatively fresh.    Hunter Beless: (24:41 - 28:24) Yeah. You know, spiritually for me, and I'm a mother of, like, young children, right? So, my kids are ranging from age 11 to age 3. I would say we're still in a season in which sleep is a little bit unpredictable, particularly in those early waking hours. But I do my very best to try and get in God's Word first. And that is not because I want to check it off the list, but because I need the people in my home and beyond. So, really trying to just orient myself rightly to the truths of God's Word first thing is huge. I also do try to work out. So, that gets to the physical piece. I neglected working out for many years. I actually, hilariously, was a personal trainer when we were back in the military. And that was kind of my gig while Brooks was gone. And so, I know how to work out, and I enjoy working out. But with the children, it has been a difficult thing for me to prioritize. But just this last year, I got, this is the most, like, basic thing ever. I got a Peloton. I bought it secondhand off of Marketplace. And it has just been a wonderful way for me to sweat and exercise my body first thing in the morning without, you know, really requiring a whole lot. I don't have to leave the house. I don't have to go outside or anything, because Brooks does travel quite a bit still for work. And so, I try to ride the Peloton. Doesn't always happen. Happens less than it does, than I want for it to, but it does help.    And then, yeah, relationally is really, that's a really good question. I think one thing that the Lord has blessed me with, having lived a season of extreme transiency, right? So, we did eight years of military. And then, we did two years at, you know, university where Brooks got his MBA. And now, we're in our first, like, what we would call, like, a civilian kind of location, where he's got his first civilian job. We're almost 15 years deep into marriage now. And so, all of the friendships that I made along those eight years of moving almost annually. I think we moved, like, six or seven times in eight years. Yeah, just trying to maintain those relationships. I only have one or two from each duty station, but I love using Voxer or Voice Memo to keep in touch with people who have known me for, you know, a longer time. And that's just one thing that's really fun. I have to be careful not to let that overtake my time on my phone, but I do love to keep in touch with old friends. And they are some of the friends that the Lord has used just really to help me navigate the various challenges that we face, right, in life and relationally in marriage and all of that.    So, anyways, and relationally in marriage, Brooks and I were really just relishing in the friendship that God has given us with one another. I don't think it's been easy over the years, especially with all of the transiency and all of the deployments and all of the many moves that we've faced. But God has really just given us a true appreciation for one another. And to begin to see now, 15 years into marriage, that the differences that He has given each of us are a gift to help us be conformed into the image of His Son. So, that's some of it, spiritually, physically, relationally. Did I miss anything?    Laura Dugger: (28:25 - 28:32) Just even productively as you're creating content, how do you stay creatively inspired and fresh?    Hunter Beless: (28:33 - 30:55) Yeah, I love, my friend Gretchen Stoffels has a lot of wonderful things to say about this. She talks a lot about producing from the overflow and not the undertow. And that's ministered to me over the years. I find a lot of times when I am not creatively fresh, it's either because I'm overproducing or because I'm not honestly spending, most of what I do is all revolving around God's Word. So, it's like if I'm not spending time in God's Word and allowing myself to just be struck anew with truths from the text, then what do I have to share? So, that helps me too in knowing when am I overcommitted? Because if I don't have time then to be relishing in God's Word, not for the sake of producing something, but just like you said, just being struck and wonder by who God is, then I really need to reevaluate the commitments that I'm making and slow things down a bit. And so, that's kind of what has helped me to protect that time with the Lord so that then I would have something to offer others.    And I don't just think about it in terms of producing a podcast or writing a book or sending out a newsletter. I mean, honestly, even with the children, this has been something that I've been thinking about for the last six to eight months. If I want them to understand how God's Word informs all of life, then I need to be with my face in my Bible because who is it that they spend the most time with, right? All throughout their life. Like, it's me. And so, I get to then help them realize like, oh, here is how Scripture applies to all these different circumstances. But if I don't spend time in God's Word, then I've got nothing to give. And I have a friend who was a missionary actually in a remote country with the IMB. And I asked her, I said, "How did you ever evangelize with people in this remote context from this different religion and all of this?" And she said, "You know what, I just had to be so, filled up with God's Word that that's what came out." And I think about that all the time. So, when I'm feeling dry, I'm like, "Oop, oop, that's a good sign. I need to go back to God's Word."    Laura Dugger: (30:56 - 31:07) I love that. And let's go there then in your own home. How have you intentionally helped your children to know and to love God through Scripture?    Hunter Beless: (31:09 - 33:52) This is going to sound really selfish, but, you know, this whole endeavor, right, I've realized the significance of God's Word in my own life. And so, I'm constantly thinking, Laura, like, how am I going to get into God's Word? You know, like, that's, it sounds selfish. But if I really believe that I need God's Word for all of life, I'm going to have to figure out how am I going to get that in. And then it's wonderful because I get to bring the children along in that. So, maybe that's just like a fresh take on it, right? Because we're always thinking as mothers, like, how can we be investing in our children more heavily in all of these things? And I think those are good and right desires. Obviously, Deuteronomy speaks to that. You know, we're supposed to teach our children diligently the ways of the Lord. But I think it's just so refreshing when we come to the text as learners, as co-learners. And so, for me, I'm just always thinking, like, how can we learn together who God's Word is? How can we worship the Lord together in our home?    And then it helps me see those times, right, when you are offering instruction to the children, when you are being intentional about, you know, for us, we do, like, catechesis, for example, which is a series of questions and answers just to help disseminate doctrinal truths and help the children learn, like, here are, you know, foundational doctrine of the Christian faith. Then I'm not just like, "Okay, who is God? You know, God is the Spirit." I'm, like, thinking about the things that we're learning in a way where I also am seeking to learn as well. And I think that just gives a posture of humility, too. Like, as a parent, where it's not like, "You gotta learn your Bible verse this week, kid." You know, it's like, "We get to, we get to, look, we get to learn God's Word together, you know?" And then that helps them understand the joy of learning God's Word. And it also gives them a very real picture of a parent who's being transformed by the truths of God's Word. What better witness is there? And so, really, I've stopped seeing it as, "Hey, here's our time," you know, which we do have.    And practically, for us, a lot of that happens around the table because I've realized that, like, when children are well-fed, when they have something to do with their hands, they may be a little bit more prone to, like, have open ears, ready to hear, you know, instruction. But we do have those rhythms kind of in place, but I don't want it to be relegated to those rhythms. I want it to be all of life. I want us to understand it doesn't just mean we're gonna sit here over breakfast and do our Bible reading for the day. This is something that is really going with us through the day because we need it not just for this moment, but for all of life.    Laura Dugger: (33:53 - 35:38) You draw so much wisdom there, and I think especially that it's not an either-or, having that set-aside rhythm and time, or just hoping it'll be incorporated into all of life. But it's both.   I want to make sure that you're up to date with our latest news. We have a new website. You can visit thesavvysauce.com and see all of the latest updates. You may remember Francie Henrichsen from Episode 132, where we talked about pursuing our God-given dreams. She is the amazing businesswoman who has carefully designed a brand-new website for Savvy Sauce Charities, and we are thrilled with the final product, so, I hope you check it out. 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So, make sure you visit thesavvysauce.com today.   Even going back to the heart of this conversation of discipleship, Hunter, how do you think the local church, and especially older women in the community, can play a vital role in encouraging young people to love Scripture?    Hunter Beless: (35:40 - 39:34) You know, I love this question, and I just, I cannot overemphasize the value of older women who love God's Word in the church enough. You know, I think in the culture, we're hearing and seeing that, you know, it's not good to grow old. I mean, that's being perpetuated by all of the Instagram ads that we receive, and by seeing shiny faces that look like they haven't aged one bit. And I'm like, "No, God's Word says that women, older women in particular, have tremendous value in the family of God." And so, I think I want older women just to realize, like, we need you. And in fact, no one is exempt. No woman is exempt from the Titus 2 mandate to teach the younger women what is good. And how do we know what's good? Well, we know God alone is good. And because God is good, we know His Word is good. And if you don't have any clue, like how to reach back and invest in the next generation, I have great news for you. All you need is God's Word.    So, I mean, the littlest learners, the children in the community, I think they are the most gracious recipients of anybody in our community, you know, just when it comes to God's Word. And so, look for ways that you can encourage the younger people in your sphere of influence, in your local church, with God's Word. And often I think that just starts with maybe even meditating on one verse. You know, it can be that simple. Or for me, one way that I want to encourage, you know, the children in my life with God's Word is by identifying ways that I see God working in their lives and naming it. I mean, how encouraging would that be if an older saint in the church said, "Hey, you know, I don't know, my oldest daughter's name is Hadley. Hey, Hadley, like, I see God working in you. You are showing kindness, you know, to the other children in the church. Thank you so much for that. And I'm just praising God for the work he's doing in your life," you know.    But I think in order for them to do that, right, they have to be willing to be inconvenienced by being around the children. And we just had a sermon on this, a wonderful sermon from the book of Mark about Jesus saying, "Let the little children come to me." And so, I think just realizing that Jesus himself, right, he was unbothered. He delighted in the presence of children. So, I think in our older age, you know, especially after you have young kids and you've done all of your time, you know, investing in the next generation in that way, just realizing that there is value in serving in kids' ministry or children's ministry in the church and just getting around the children to be able to give yourself the opportunity to know them in a way where you can meet them with the truths of God's Word. It could also be just having younger families in your home. And I know that can be such an inconvenience. I mean, we're a hot mess. We are so chaotic. And I know, you know, you even have to consider the breakables. Like, you got to protect those, you know, when we come into the house. But figure out, like, what does hospitality look like where we can welcome in younger children, the families with younger children in the home, seek to encourage the parents. I mean, truly, Laura, what else are we doing here? Like, we have been given two things. We have been given the mission of evangelizing and discipling. And that message is the same.    At the heart of both of those things is the gospel. The gospel is for salvation and for sanctification. And so, if you're an older person in the church, keep meditating on the gospel. Keep, you know, seeking to disseminate the truths of the gospel to everybody around you. And remember, the littlest of these, I think, are the most eager learners. And it's such a great opportunity.    Laura Dugger: (39:36 - 39:52) Goodness, I love that. And as you say, disseminate these truths of the gospel for both salvation and sanctification. Can you even share clearly what is that gospel that applies to everyone?    Hunter Beless: (39:53 - 43:58) Oh, yes. I mean, this is the good news that I continually am rehearsing over and over and over again. I think for me, you know, I realized as a young child that the gospel was for salvation, right? That I love the Titus 3. You know, I just wrote this Bible study on Titus with Courtney Docter. If you don't have, like, a great comprehensive kind of gospel text that you've got in your back pocket, I think Titus 3:3-7 is a wonderful text to commit to memory. It says, "So, we are sinners." Romans 3:23. You know, we were created by God to glorify him. And yet, we have chosen to glorify ourselves. Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." So, we too were once foolish. I think it's easy to see that when you really think about your life. You know, like, even me testifying to my life in high school. We too were once foolish. There's no getting around that. But we too, let me see, where am I now? "But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us," "not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy," So, how does he save us? Well, he sent his son, Jesus. When did the kindness of God our Savior appear? Well, it appeared over 2,000 years ago. In a stable in Bethlehem. When, like you said, God sent his son to live a perfect life. And then he gave his life on the cross so, that we might have right relationship with God. He saved us. Not by works of righteousness, but according to his mercy, "By the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit."    So, when, and by the way, he rose from the grave. Let's see, is that in here? I don't know. But let's see. That one's not in this particular gospel text of Titus 3:3-7. But we know that from the gospels, right? That Jesus Christ died on the cross. And that he rose again three days later. Overcoming death. So, that we too might not have to experience eternal death. We get to experience eternal life. When we turn from our sin and trust in him. And that's when that washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit happens. We're filled with the spirit. He's poured out his spirit on us. Verses 6 and 7 says, "whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life." And so, I think part of what it looks like for us to live with that hope of eternal life. Is to constantly be reflecting upon who we were apart from Christ. Who we are in Christ. And who we will be when we one day see Christ again. Face to face. And so, that for me is what it looks like. Just to relish in the gospel. To remember the gospel.    Even when I was talking earlier, Laura, about feeling overwhelmed. The temptation for me then is to feel down on myself. And to wrestle with shame. Because I've over committed, right? But I'm rehearsing the truths of the gospel to myself in that moment. And saying, "Okay. Yes, could I have planned my schedule better? Yes, could I have done all these things? But you know what? I, by God's grace, get instead to rest in the grace that the gospel provides for me in this moment. Knowing that with all these various responsibilities, I am not going to be executing them perfectly. But he has perfectly accomplished my salvation on the cross. And so, I can rest in his son. Knowing that my salvation is not based on my perfect performance. But on the performance of Christ." And that then again helps me then to relish in the gospel. To remember the gospel, like I said, is not just for that moment of salvation or justification. When we're saved from our sins and made right with God. But it's also for every moment of every day. Because we need it all the time. At least I do.    Laura Dugger: (44:00 - 44:20) Yes, absolutely. And I think we can hear that or repeat that so, often. But I love how you unpack it. Because especially for those who have been saved. When they rely on the gospel for sanctification. Can you give any more examples of what that looks like? Specifically for sanctification after the salvation?    Hunter Beless: (44:21 - 46:35) Yeah. I think it's just coming to a greater understanding of our desperate need for Jesus. And then as we rely on him more wholly. I think we're conformed even more into the image of his son. Just after that gospel hymn in Titus 3. Verse 8 says, "The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works." So, what is sanctification? Well, sanctification is growing in godliness. Or said another way, it's growing in good works. Right? So, we're not saved because of our good works. We're saved by the gospel so, that then we can produce good works. By God's grace. That's the sanctification process. And so, how does that happen? Well, verse 8 tells us, "The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things." What does it want us to insist on? It wants us to insist then on the contents of the gospel from Titus 3:3-7. So, we need to, in order to grow in our ability to do good to others. What do we do? We insist on the gospel.    And how does that work? Well, when I am feeling, again, overbooked, overwhelmed. And somebody comes into my life that needs service. If I'm functioning by the world's wisdom, what am I going to say? "You know what? I just don't have the margin for that. I can't do that. I need to protect my time." But if I'm looking at the gospel, what do I see? Well, I see what Christ died for me. Was that act of service self-protective in any way? No. So, what does it look like for me then to lay down my life for the good of another? And that's how the gospel then informs our living in such a way that we begin to grow by God's grace, not by our own effort, in godliness. So, I think that's how the sanctification process kind of works itself out.    Laura Dugger: (46:35 - 46:54) Thank you so much for sharing that. And you've taught us already so, much in this time together. But you've also written a book recently for children. Can you tell us a little bit more about it and share the lasting truths that you want to impart to children who get to read or listen to your book?    Hunter Beless: (46:55 - 49:47) Yeah. I think it started for me with really thinking about what are those kinds of scriptural, biblical truths that I want to offer to the children in these everyday moments like we've been talking about. My son, I already shared, he's been struggling with sleep for the last year or so,. And he'll come tumbling down the stairs in the middle of the night. And my initial reaction to that is to want to say, "It's okay. Mommy's here." Right? And that's true. And I do think that offers some temporal comfort. And it is a good thing for a mother to be present in the time of a child's need. But thinking more deeply, I began to say, "Buddy, God is with you. You have no need to fear." And the reason for that is because I started thinking about, well, what if mommy wasn't here? What if I wasn't able to be here? And some of that came just from having lost my own father in the last few years to cancer spontaneously. And just thinking, like, what are the lasting truths that I then want to impart to my children when I'm no longer able to be present? So, it is true. It's comfort that mommy is here in your time of need. But also, even when mommy's not able to be here, remember, God is with you always.  And it's been such an encouragement for me then to even see him, like, on the playground and his little buddy will get hurt. And he'll turn and he'll tell his buddy, like, "It's okay. God's with you." You know what I'm thinking? "That's so, good. Like, this is the kind of stuff that I want to be just ingrained within the children so, that their initial reaction is, 'It's okay. God is with me.'" Similarly, the message that is repeated throughout the book is, "Jesus Loves You More". And that was really instigated from one of my children requesting for me to say over and over again this popular phrase that we've all heard, "I love you to the moon and back." And I started thinking, like, "Okay, that's true. I do. I love you to the moon and back. I love you to the, you know, mountaintop and to the ocean floor. I love you as far as the east is from the west. But there is one who loves you even more than I ever could. And in fact, when my love fails you, His never will." And so, I wanted to get that.    If there's one message that I want my kids to know, it's that. It's that Jesus loves them so, much that he went all the way to the cross at Calvary and gave his very life so, that they could be made right with God. So, that's the message that I hope kids will take away from the book. I do hope that it inspires parents to think about what are those lasting truths that they want to impart to their kids. And I hope it equips them then to be able to share what I believe as Christian parents is the most important message we could ever give.    Laura Dugger: (49:48 - 49:54) I just want to acknowledge too, I'm so, sorry for the sudden loss of your father in recent years.    Hunter Beless: (49:55 - 50:19) Well, thank you. Yeah, it's, you know, my kids were just saying as we were hiking this last weekend, they're like, "We miss puppy." But we're like, I'm at a point now where I did go through many years of grief, missing him, you know, all of this. But just relishing in the fact that he's in the presence of the Lord Jesus. And I am just so grateful because he's in a much better place. So, I'm looking forward to the day that I get to join him there. Amen.    Laura Dugger: (50:20 - 50:28) Well, Hunter, you've already given us so much, but where can we go to continue being discipled by you after this conversation?    Hunter Beless: (50:30 - 51:14) Well, if you like conversations like this, you know, I infrequently show up at Journey Women. We used to do a weekly show and then it turned to bi-weekly and now we're seasonal. But I do love having conversations just like this. And I hope that, you know, just as our conversation today, I hope it encourages women just to get together, like you said, with women in their local context to open up God's word. And just to go deeper, relationally, conversationally, to come together around the truths of God's word. You've asked such great questions, Laura. And I think take some of these questions and ask your friends and see where the Lord guides those conversations. I think that'll just be such a blessing. It's been a blessing to meet and chat with you today.    Laura Dugger: (51:15 - 51:32) Well, I've loved every minute. And you may already be familiar that we're called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge or insight or discernment. And so, as my final question for you today, Hunter, what is your Savvy Sauce?    Hunter Beless: (51:34 - 52:28) Oh, you try to nail me down to something practical. It's funny, Laura, because I feel like I resist practical. And I'm not sure what it is about me that resists practical other than maybe sometimes I felt like bound in by people's practical advice. Does that make sense? And so, for me, here's my practical advice. My practical advice is to allow all of your practices or your practicals to be informed by the principles of the text. So, allow the principles of scripture to inform your practice. And that's not very practical, but I think the only practical way you can do that is to get your face in your Bible and to really seek to know and love God through his word. And then he will certainly help inform your practice.    Laura Dugger: (52:30 - 56:34) I think that's actually more practical than you realize. That is wonderful. And Hunter, your joy and your laugh are just contagious. And you're clearly gifted from the Lord as a clear, articulate communicator. And it blesses so, many people in so many generations because you are able to filter in the truth and then communicate it in a way that's able to be received. So, it's been so encouraging to sit under your teaching and be inspired to take this out and to hopefully begin in our home. But also, those good works, as we're called as older women, too. None of us are exempt, as you said. So, I've just thoroughly enjoyed being with you. Thank you for being my guest. Thank you so much for having me. It's been so fun.   One more thing before you go, have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you, but it starts with the bad news.   Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved.   We need a savior, but God loved us so much. He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him.   That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life. We could never live and died in our place for our sin.   This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished. If we choose to receive what he has done for us, Romans 10:9 says, “that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   So, you pray with me now. Heavenly father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you.   Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus name we pray.   Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me. So, me for him, you get the opportunity to live your life for him.   And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you're ready to get started.   First, tell someone, say it out loud, get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes and Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it.   You can start by reading the book of John. Also get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.   We want to celebrate with you too. So, feel free to leave a comment for us here. If you did make a decision to follow Christ, we also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process.   And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “in the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today.   And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

Let's talk about the question every business owner eventually asks: if I had to sign five clients by the end of the month… what would I actually do? This episode came from a Voxer message a client sent me this morning. She wanted to know how to move quickly when revenue suddenly feels urgent. I walk through the exact strategy I'd use, starting with activating past clients and warm leads, and working outward through your network, email list, conversations, workshops, and visibility engines. The big idea is simple. Signing clients fast is infinitely easier when you've been consistently producing content and keeping people in your orbit. When you do that, you're never really starting from zero. You're just activating the people who are already nearby.

Most women don't struggle with knowing they should work out. We struggle with finding 30 uninterrupted minutes, four times a week, with energy left over. Between work, kids, mental load, and just being tired… traditional workout expectations can feel overwhelming. And when 30 minutes feels impossible, we end up doing nothing. That's exactly why micro workouts are trending right now. In this episode, we break down: What micro workouts actually are (and what they are NOT) Why short workouts under 15 minutes are exploding in popularity How micro workouts build real strength and real results Why five minutes of movement is not “nothing” The mindset shift that keeps you from quitting Two simple ways to use micro workouts to build consistency Micro workouts are not watered-down workouts. They're not “fake.” They're not lazy. They're simply shorter workouts that remove overthinking and lower resistance. Because sometimes the most powerful thing you can do for your health is start smaller. If you've ever thought: “If I can't do 30 minutes, what's the point?” “Five minutes won't make a difference.” “I just need more motivation.” This episode will help you rethink everything. Momentum is not built through occasional perfect workouts. It's built through small, repeatable action. And sometimes the bravest thing you can do as a busy mom, working woman, or daughter of the King… Is let small be enough for today. Ready to Start Small? Inside the Free Fitness Health Hub, you'll find short workouts and a 5-day challenge designed to help you build consistency with micro workouts. Grab it here:

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about why you can't explain yourself to everybody all the time and how trying to do so, will just wear you the heck out!I also share how the tendency to over explain is often rooted in a fear of being misunderstood, and yet our words often get filtered through other people's history, trauma, beliefs, and stories long before they land anyway.Which means that the "message sent is almost never the message received.”We dive into why some of us became over-explainers and people pleasers in the first place -and I tell a few personal stories about choosing to do what I knew deep down inside was right for me - even though I couldn't fully explain it to others - and I knew that those other people wouldn't like it.

Does your business feel heavy lately? Maybe it's starting to feel more draining than fulfilling. In today's episode, I'm talking about why your business might be feeling that way, plus steps you can take to fix it. The Shoot It Straight Podcast is brought to you by Sabrina Gebhardt, photographer and educator. Join us each week as we discuss what it's like to be a female creative entrepreneur while balancing entrepreneurship and motherhood. If you're trying to find balance in this exciting place you're in, yet willing to talk about the hard stuff too, Shoot It Straight Podcast is here to share practical and tangible takeaways to help you shoot it straight. This episode is brought to you by Root To Rise, a mastermind and retreat for female photographers where personal development meets business growth. During the four-month experience, students have weekly calls focused on goals, boundaries, money, and marketing. The program also includes incredible guest teachers, a private Facebook community, and weekly Voxer hours with individualized guidance and mentorship. Sign up today to join the waitlist.Review the Show Notes: What I mean by your business feeling “heavy” (2:03)You are carrying too much alone (3:08)You found success with no structure (6:24)You are constantly making decisions (9:36)You are consuming more than implementing (11:58)Your business outgrew the version of you who built it (14:36)Connect with Sabrina:Root To Rise Mastermind: sabrinagebhardt.com/mastermind-waitlistInstagram: instagram.com/xo.sabrinagebhardtWebsite: sabrinagebhardt.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what it means to live with the consequences of being yourself… the good, the bad, and the kinda' messy in-between.I share how so much of my work with others and my life was/is about learning how to own our brilliance and our bullshit.So, we take a look at how our past conditioning, familiar patterns, and played out stories often shape how we show up in the world - sometimes for the better and sometime for the so not soothing worse.I also get into why a Daily Spiritual Practice (DSP) can be the difference between going out into the world inspired - versus - going out and inflicting yourself on other people.Through real-life examples, I invite you to take an honest look at the wake you're leaving behind you each day and ask, “Am I making a contribution to society right now, or am I being a bit of a menace?”And if you don't dig the answer, maybe this is your friendly invitation to start getting curious, be honest, and choose again.❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor, and coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self-development, and transformational work.She's been a yoga teacher since 1999, and a Thai Yoga Massage practitioner since 2008.She's also a speaker, a certified Gateless Writing Instructor, and host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She works with clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and in her HEART-TO-HEART DAYS via Voxer. She also leads a group coaching program and community called THE NEST.Her down-to-earth approach brings together practical tools, resources, and stories that encourage curiosity, invite self-awareness, shifts perceptions, and deepens self-knowledge.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

Sign up for my FREE 3 Day Accelerator - How I Built and Sold a 7-FigureTherapy Practice in 3 Years  →  https://mccancemethod.com/free-3-day-live-course/Want to watch this episode on video? Check it out here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/0gkqyJYtZFQ In this episode, I'm taking you behind the scenes of what my daily routine actually looked like while I was scaling my group practice to multiple seven figures, while raising twins. I share the exact habits, systems, and mindset shifts that helped me grow fast without burning out. If you've ever wondered how to protect your energy, lead like a CEO, and still be present at home, this one's for you.Make sure to bring your paper and pen because this episode is full of actionable tips!Here are some key points in this episode:[01:56] Why next-level results require next-level self-care [03:35] My exact morning routine: early bedtime, energy calibration, yoga, and eliminating decision fatigue [10:10] How I use “Siri reminders” and daily triaging to stay organized and reduce overwhelm while leading a fast-growing group practice[13:29] The transition from clinician to CEO: gradually reducing clients, focusing on marketing and growth, and eventually wearing only one “zone of genius” hat[18:44] Managing interruptions in a growing practice: why Post-its, visual reminders, and tools like Voxer are lifesavers[19:29] The power of white space: booking 30 minutes of nothing to prevent burnout, regulate your nervous system, and stay magneticLinks From The Episode:Voxer - https://www.voxer.com/ Episode #116: 5 Tools to Reduce Overwhelm and Stay Organized →  https://mccancemethod.com/episode-116-5-tools-to-reduce-overwhelm-and-stay-organized/ Nicole's Morning Smoothie Isalean shake by IsagenixBananaBlueberriesSpinachFish oil SpirulinaCamu Camu Nicole's go to supplements: https://amzn.to/4b79uUR (CAD)https://amzn.to/4cdCWd2 (US) Disclaimer: Nicole McCance shares general information for educational purposes only. It is not a replacement for professional advice, please consult relevant experts before making any decisionsFollow me on Instagram, @nicole.mccanncemethod. If this episode provided you with value and inspiration, please leave a review and DM to let me know. Click here: https://www.instagram.com/nicole.mccancemethod

The “Perfect” Couple and Infidelity: Why High-Achieving Relationships Break (And What to Do Next) You did everything right. You were the smart couple. The committed couple. The high-achieving, “we've got this” couple. Date nights. Careers. Kids. Goals. You worked hard. You showed up. You performed well. So how did infidelity happen to you? If you've ever thought, “We were the perfect couple. This doesn't make sense,” this episode will open your eyes in the most grounded, compassionate way. In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Rachel Dornianu of Sage Counseling & Wellness to unpack the hidden dynamics behind the “perfect couple” myth — and why high-achieving, Type A, perfectionistic relationships are often more vulnerable than they appear. We explore how perfectionism, people-pleasing, high sensitivity, emotional avoidance, and the Gottman “Four Horsemen” quietly erode intimacy over time — even in relationships that look beautiful on the outside. If you're navigating infidelity, feeling blindsided, or wondering how something could fall apart when you both “did everything right,” this episode will help you understand what really happened — and what healing actually requires. Top 3 Takeaways Perfection Isn't the Same as Connection High achievement, polished date nights, and shared goals can mask roommate syndrome, emotional loneliness, and avoidance. When couples stop pausing, attuning, and truly connecting, resentment and unmet needs quietly build beneath the surface. Performance is not intimacy. Infidelity Is Often a Maladaptive Coping Mechanism While betrayal is devastating, it's frequently rooted in avoidance, trauma, shame, unmet emotional needs, and poor coping skills — not pure moral corruption. Understanding the why doesn't excuse the behavior, but it creates clarity. And clarity is the first step toward healing. Healing Requires Addressing What Was Already There Perfectionism. People-pleasing. High sensitivity. Fawning. Walking on eggshells. Avoidance. Emotional flooding. Infidelity doesn't create these patterns — it exposes them. Whether you choose to stay or separate, the real work is learning how to regulate your nervous system, communicate honestly, and stop performing so you can start being. Favorite Quote “Perfection isn't intimacy. Performance isn't connection. And infidelity doesn't create the cracks — it exposes the ones that were already there.” Loving this show? Ready to go deeper? If this episode hit close to home and you're thinking, “This is exactly what happened in my relationship,” you don't have to figure this out alone. Download your free Betrayal Recovery Toolkit at www.BetrayalRecoveryGuide.com and begin making sense of the chaos. If you're ready for personalized support — whether through Voxer coaching, private sessions, or deeper transformational work — visit www.LoraCheadle.com. And if this conversation resonated, make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who needs to hear that perfection is not the goal — connection is. Favorite Hash Tags #PerfectCoupleMyth #InfidelityRecovery #BetrayalHealing #PerfectionismInMarriage #HighAchievingWomen #RelationshipAfterInfidelity #EmotionalIntimacy #MarriageAfterAffair #FlauntPodcast--- About Rachel Dorneanu Rachel Dorneanu (she/her) is a licensed therapist, AASECT- certified sex therapist, and board-certified coach specializing in Anxiety, HSPs, People Pleasing, Perfectionism, and Sex Therapy, with a passion for helping people reconnect with their bodies, reduce shame, and find freedom in their wellness journey. She holds a Master's in Counseling and brings over 8 years of experience working with millennial women and moms. Through her work as a therapist and coach, Rachel integrates evidence-based approaches with compassionate education to normalize topics often left in the dark—like pelvic pain, pleasure, and embodiment. She is known for her relatable, down-to-earth style and her ability to make complex or uncomfortable topics accessible and affirming. Outside of her professional life, Rachel enjoys practicing yoga, spending time with her husband and 2 children, and traveling. Learn more at: www.sagecounselingtherapyandwellness.com  or www.racheldorneanu.com CBT Workbook for Perfectionism: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B91P55R?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzrach0e83-20&creativeASIN=B07B91P55R&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3HY29OX8D6BTK&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_d_asin LOVE THE SHOW? TAKE THE NEXT STEP Don't just listen—start healing. Get your free downloadable guide on the “The Top Three Ways You Betray Yourself Every Day, and How to Stop” at www.burnoutorbetrayal.com. https://workplace-burnout.com/the-top-3-ways-you-betray-yourself-every-day-and-how-to-stop/ If you're ready to Rise Up & Reign as the creator and queen of your life, let's talk. I will walk by your side and give you the perspective, permission, and wisdom needed to turn your betrayal experience into something constructive, empowering, and transformative in all the right ways.  Learn more at www.loracheadle.com and follow me across all social! Download your Sparkle After Betrayal Recovery Guide at www.BetrayalRecoveryGuide.com, a guide designed to help you take the first steps in feeling better, so you can reclaim your power, own your worth, and start putting yourself, and your life, back together again. About Lora: Lora Cheadle, JD, CHt is a betrayal recovery coach, attorney, TEDx speaker, and author of FLAUNT! and It's Not Burnout, It's Betrayal. After uncovering her husband's 15-year affair, she turned her own pain into purpose—helping high-achieving women reclaim their identity, power, and joy. A trauma-aware coach, somatic therapist, and former attorney, Lora blends legal insight with emotional and spiritual healing for full-spectrum recovery. She is the author of FLAUNT! Drop Your Cover and Reveal Your Smart, Sexy, & Spiritual Self (an International Book Awards Finalist and Tattered Cover Bestseller) and It's Not Burnout, It's Betrayal: 5 Tools to FUEL UP & Thrive. She also hosts the podcast FLAUNT! Create a Life You Love After Infidelity and Betrayal. Learn more at www.loracheadle.com and follow me across all social! Get the support you need to find your footing, begin making sense of it all, and feel better fast. As an attorney, betrayal recovery expert, and survivor of infidelity I can help you find the clarity and confidence to create a life that you love on the other side of betrayal. Book Your Session Here: https://calendly.com/loras-schedule/coaching-session Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this podcast! Take charge of your mental health and get 10% off your first month of therapy at https://BetterHelp.com/FLAUNT  READY TO START A BETTER CHAPTER? Step into the future you've always dreamed of with the power of transformative rituals with the Mindful Subscription Box. Get a monthly box full of crystals, aromatherapy, and other spiritual tools worth $120. You deserve high-quality gems, crystals, oils, and mindfulness tools for self-care that truly work. It's a monthly dose of self-love delivered right to your door! Go to www.Mindfulsouls.com  and use Discount Code LORA25 for 25% off your order!

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about regret.You know, the stuff we wish we hadn't done, the chances we never took, and the future regret we can possibly prevent - if we're willing to get honest and take some action.I break down these three types of regret and share how a little self-awareness, self-forgiveness, and courage can help us make peace with the past and do better moving forward!I also share how I'm using this in my own life as I write my book and invite you to look at what you don't want to regret later on, too… whether it's a relationship, a dream, a creative project, or how you're showing up in the world.My hope is that this episode will help you to start writing a kinder, truer, more beautiful chapter in your own life story - one conscious choice, one brave step, and one prevented regret at a time. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a writer, podcaster, certified spiritual mentor and coach. She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self-development, and transformational work.She's has been a yoga teacher since 1999, and a Thai Yoga Massage practitioner since 2008. She's a speaker, workshop + retreat leader, and a certified Gateless Writing Instructor. She's also the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.KK works with clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and in her personalized HEART-TO-HEART DAY via Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

Dielle shares a behind-the-scenes breakdown of her recent $15,000 Mastermind launch that brought in about $350,000, including a unexpected pay-in-full enrollment. She explains key lessons from the launch. She also discusses tailoring messaging to what audiences are actively asking for (income goals like $250K/$500K/$1M), engineering results through intentional bonuses (webinar creation and 30-day Voxer support), selling with certainty rooted in coaching and troubleshooting skills, staying open to "surprise and delight" during launches, and the operational power of planning launches well in advance so execution stays calm and effective. 00:00 Welcome to 4 to 23%: Women of Color Business & Entrepreneurship 00:24 Behind the Scenes: The $315K–$350K Mastermind Launch Breakdown 01:55 Lesson #1: Don't Let Past Launch Results Dictate Your Future 04:36 Using Data as a Tool: From 1-Hour Webinar to 5-Day Training 07:26 Lesson #2: Offer What Your Ideal Client Actually Wants 11:57 Lesson #3: What People Need to Know Before They Buy (Build Safety) 15:28 Lesson #4: Creating Your Own Luck—Engineering the Result You Want 17:13 Stacking Irresistible Bonuses to Guarantee a Sell-Out 18:51 Create Your Own Luck: Tactics to Shift a Launch in Your Favor 19:48 Sold Out Before the Public Launch: Canceling the Launch (In a Good Way) 20:35 Lesson #5: Certainty You Can Get Clients Results (and Why It Sells) 23:17 Troubleshooting Like a Pro: Diagnosing What Went Wrong in a Launch 25:52 Be Surprised & Delighted: Staying Open to the Magic of Sales 30:03 The Power of Planning: Build the Whole Launch 30+ Days Ahead 32:30 Final Wrap-Up + Where to Get Support (Membership & Links) For the 23% is the women of color business and entrepreneurship podcast hosted by multi-million-dollar entrepreneur Dielle Charon. Each week you'll learn how to grow your sales, money, and freedom so we can increase the 23% of business owners who are women of color. Website: forthe23percent.com Instagram: @forthe23percent Membership: forthe23percent.com/membership

You did everything right. You were the smart couple. The committed couple. The high-achieving, “we've got this” couple. Date nights. Careers. Kids. Goals. You worked hard. You showed up. You performed well. So how did infidelity happen to you? If you've ever thought, “We were the perfect couple. This doesn't make sense,” this episode will open your eyes in the most grounded, compassionate way. In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Rachel Dornianu of Sage Counseling & Wellness to unpack the hidden dynamics behind the “perfect couple” myth — and why high-achieving, Type A, perfectionistic relationships are often more vulnerable than they appear. We explore how perfectionism, people-pleasing, high sensitivity, emotional avoidance, and the Gottman “Four Horsemen” quietly erode intimacy over time — even in relationships that look beautiful on the outside. If you're navigating infidelity, feeling blindsided, or wondering how something could fall apart when you both “did everything right,” this episode will help you understand what really happened — and what healing actually requires. Top 3 Takeaways Perfection Isn't the Same as Connection High achievement, polished date nights, and shared goals can mask roommate syndrome, emotional loneliness, and avoidance. When couples stop pausing, attuning, and truly connecting, resentment and unmet needs quietly build beneath the surface. Performance is not intimacy. Infidelity Is Often a Maladaptive Coping Mechanism While betrayal is devastating, it's frequently rooted in avoidance, trauma, shame, unmet emotional needs, and poor coping skills — not pure moral corruption. Understanding the why doesn't excuse the behavior, but it creates clarity. And clarity is the first step toward healing. Healing Requires Addressing What Was Already There Perfectionism. People-pleasing. High sensitivity. Fawning. Walking on eggshells. Avoidance. Emotional flooding. Infidelity doesn't create these patterns — it exposes them. Whether you choose to stay or separate, the real work is learning how to regulate your nervous system, communicate honestly, and stop performing so you can start being. Favorite Quote “Perfection isn't intimacy. Performance isn't connection. And infidelity doesn't create the cracks — it exposes the ones that were already there.” Loving this show? Ready to go deeper? If this episode hit close to home and you're thinking, “This is exactly what happened in my relationship,” you don't have to figure this out alone. Download your free Betrayal Recovery Toolkit at www.BetrayalRecoveryGuide.com and begin making sense of the chaos. If you're ready for personalized support — whether through Voxer coaching, private sessions, or deeper transformational work — visit www.LoraCheadle.com. And if this conversation resonated, make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone who needs to hear that perfection is not the goal — connection is. Favorite Quote #PerfectCoupleMyth #InfidelityRecovery #BetrayalHealing #PerfectionismInMarriage #HighAchievingWomen #RelationshipAfterInfidelity #EmotionalIntimacy #MarriageAfterAffair #FlauntPodcast   About Rachel Dorneanu Rachel Dorneanu (she/her) is a licensed therapist, AASECT- certified sex therapist, and board-certified coach specializing in Anxiety, HSPs, People Pleasing, Perfectionism, and Sex Therapy, with a passion for helping people reconnect with their bodies, reduce shame, and find freedom in their wellness journey. She holds a Master's in Counseling and brings over 8 years of experience working with millennial women and moms. Through her work as a therapist and coach, Rachel integrates evidence-based approaches with compassionate education to normalize topics often left in the dark—like pelvic pain, pleasure, and embodiment. She is known for her relatable, down-to-earth style and her ability to make complex or uncomfortable topics accessible and affirming. Outside of her professional life, Rachel enjoys practicing yoga, spending time with her husband and 2 children, and traveling.

In today's episode, I'm breaking down what it really means to be a Relational CEO—the fast-moving, people-first leader who builds trust quickly, creates a magnetic community, and can grow an audience almost effortlessly. If you've ever been told "you just need better boundaries," but that advice feels like it's asking you to become colder or less you… this conversation is for you. We're talking about how your warmth is a competitive advantage (not a liability), why it can quietly turn into burnout as you scale, and the simple shift that keeps your business profitable and sustainable: structure that protects your connection so you can keep serving powerfully without leaking your energy everywhere. Timeline Highlights [00:00] - Why this CEO Types series exists (and why mainstream business advice doesn't fit everyone) [03:00] - The Relational CEO core wiring: people-oriented + fast-paced decision-making [05:02] - The superpower: building trust fast, creating safe spaces, and growing loyal audiences naturally [07:08] - How relational energy fuels referrals, collaborations, and long-term client retention [09:46] - The "dark side" of being magnetic: attracting fans who love your vibe but won't buy [22:14] - Common blind spots: pricing swings, unclear deliverables, and over-delivering into exhaustion [30:21] - The big shift: structure isn't the opposite of warmth—it's the container that protects it [31:12] - The candle metaphor: why your "flame" needs a holder to stay sustainable [32:50] - Practical structure: clear offer scope, Voxer boundaries, and client expectations that prevent resentment [37:19] - Messaging that filters: getting clear on who you're not for (so you attract buyers, not just followers) [38:42] - Sales leadership: creating decision containers so you stop getting ghosted [40:06] - Delivery discipline: structure that supports transformation (not endless expansion) [41:27] - Calendar protection: building systems so your energy isn't the engine of the business [45:31] - Real-world example: Cory Ruth / The Women's Dietitian and scaling warmth + authority with PCOS content Top Quotes "Your likability is not the problem. Your lack of structure is." "The mainstream obsession with hype-first marketing is actively working against a huge portion of experts who are genuinely excellent at what they do." "Structure is not the opposite of warmth. Structure protects your warmth." "It's really easy for you to confuse being responsive with being of service." "You can still be warm inside your container. You just stop letting the container expand infinitely." "Your warmth and your friendliness and your likeability is a gift. It's not a liability." Links & Resources Take the CEO Type Quiz Mentioned example: Cory Ruth (The Women's Dietitian) If this episode helped you, I'd love it if you'd follow the show, leave a rating and review, and share it with a friend, especially someone who leads with warmth and connection and needs permission to protect their energy while they grow.

What if hitting your protein goals didn't have to feel so complicated? If you've been trying to eat more protein but feel stuck between bland recipes, picky kids, and a schedule that barely leaves time to breathe — this episode is for you. Originally aired as episode 94, this replay is part of our February Flashback Series — and it's packed with practical, non-overwhelming ways to finally increase your daily protein intake (yes, even with littles running around). Inside this episode, you'll learn: Why most “high-protein” Pinterest recipes don't work for busy families 4 realistic ways to increase your protein intake without stress The mental shift that will help you stick with it long-term How to simplify your meals (without eating the same thing every day)

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what it really means to be “in the commitment business.”I share some stories about yoga classes, Spiritual Mentoring, and my Sweetie's life as a professional musician to illustrate the difference between being committed to the idea of change -vs- taking the gosh-dang consistent actions that actually create it!We'll look at human nature, the psychology of commitment, and how places like Planet Fitness - and personal items, like unused guitars, and dusty yoga mats - reveal what we're committed to (or not). Ha!I also invite you to take an honest look at your life and ask, “What am I committed to this year?”, so you can align your time, energy, and resources with what truly matters most.You'll hear one of my favorite quotes about commitment (it's a good one!), learn why I always say, “The Universe can't get behind wishy-washy”…And we get to consider the magical notion that when we fully commit - Providence often opens unforeseen doors, and provides people, support, and opportunities that we never could have planned for or dreamed of. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Podcaster and Coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self-development, and transformational work.She's has been a yoga teacher since 1999, and a Thai Yoga Massage practitioner since 2008. She's a speaker, workshop + retreat leader, and a certified Gateless Writing Instructor. She's also the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.KK coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and in her personalized HEART-TO-HEART DAY via Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.Her down-to-earth approach brings together tools, resources, and stories that coach both the conscious and unconscious mind.She offers a fun and effective combination of Integrative Coaching and Spiritual Mentorship that shifts perceptions, invites self-awareness, and deepens self-knowledge… paired with powerful, science-based pattern interrupts, anxiety-stoppers, and research-backed protocols that train your brain.Her work is designed to encourage independence (not co-dependence) for her clients and to help people learn to better know, love, and trust themselves!CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about how important it is to think for yourself - especially in the age of influencers, grifters, and bro-science “experts” - including those being revealed in the Epstein files.I share a little modern-day PSA about being on the lookout for online scams, shady spiritual teachers, coaching programs with “culty” vibes, and podcasters who try to sell us an image, rather than the truth.I add in a favorite Bruce Lee quote about how a “good teacher protects you from their own influence” and will do their best to keep pointing you back to your own Inner Teacher, intuition, discernment, and critical thinking!You'll hear why we've gotta' trust our gut, notice the red flags, and stop giving our power away just because someone is good at marketing, has a wicked big platform, or has published a bestselling book.My hope is that this episode encourages you to unfollow what feels off, ask better questions, and surround yourself with a few trusted people who will lovingly point out your blind spotsMost of all, I want you to remember that you already have an internal guidance system that's pretty damn smart… and it's OK - when we learn new information - to say, “I made a mistake. I was wrong,” then course-correct, and choose better for yourself going forward. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Podcaster and Coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self-development, and transformational work.She's has been a yoga teacher since 1999, and a Thai Yoga Massage practitioner since 2008. She's a speaker, workshop + retreat leader, and a certified Gateless Writing Instructor. She's also the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.KK coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and in her personalized HEART-TO-HEART DAY via Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.Her down-to-earth approach brings together tools, resources, and stories that coach both the conscious and unconscious mind.She offers a fun and effective combination of Integrative Coaching and Spiritual Mentorship that shifts perceptions, invites self-awareness, and deepens self-knowledge… paired with powerful, science-based pattern interrupts, anxiety-stoppers, and research-backed protocols that train your brain.Her work is designed to encourage independence (not co-dependence) for her clients and to help people learn to better understand, support, and trust themselves!CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

In this candid and deeply personal episode, Beverley Simpson shares her transformative experience of losing access to her 15,000-person email list—80% of whom were paying customers and clients—for 30 days. This isn't a doom-and-gloom story; it's a masterclass in identifying the difference between mistakes and misconceptions, diagnosing root problems, and building a bulletproof business in the online fitness coaching space. Beverley breaks down the cascading consequences of not understanding the real technical problem, the dangerous advice circulating online about email marketing, and the critical mindset shifts required to scale a profitable business. Whether you're just starting your email list or managing thousands of subscribers, this episode will fundamentally shift how you approach email marketing, audience diversification, and business resilience in 2026.Key Discussion Points:0:00-2:00 – Introduction and episode overview: Beverley shares what listeners will learn from her email list crisis2:00-5:00 – Context on Beverley's business model: Building low-ticket funnels and customer-focused email lists (60-80% buyers)5:00-8:00 – The crucial mistake in May 2025: Manually adding 2,000 people to a workflow, resulting in 4,000 emails sent in 30 minutes8:00-12:00 – The cascading consequences: Open rates plummeting from 40-60% to 6-8% and the panic that followed12:00-18:00 – The real problem revealed: Lack of email drip rate knowledge (emails need to send at 10-100 per minute, not all at once)18:00-25:00 – Death by a thousand paper cuts: Months of attempting fixes without understanding the root cause25:00-35:00 – Misconception #1: "Your email list is yours" – Why this is dangerous and what it really means35:00-42:00 – Misconception #2: "Don't build an email list until you make a million dollars" – Why this advice is harmful42:00-50:00 – Misconception #3: "One platform is enough" – The importance of diversifying your audience channels50:00-58:00 – The technical nightmare: Changing domains, warming up IPs, and the complexity of email deliverability58:00-65:00 – Christmas crisis: Getting bad advice from a "senior advisor" that made things worse65:00-72:00 – The breaking point: Screaming in Voxer with her mentor and the decision to turn off all ads and emails72:00-80:00 – The 30-day recovery: Turning off ads (which previously cost her from 50K to 2K in revenue), no fulfillment emails, and daily technical calls80:00-88:00 – The solution discovered: Understanding email send rates and getting back on track by February 1st88:00-95:00 – Guru energy and authority vs. expertise: Why perception matters and how to avoid being scammed▶️ Ready to build your profitable online fitness business the right way? Join my FREE training where I show you the exact system I use to turn $9 into $50k months. https://ptprofitformula.com/simplescaling// C O N N E C T Let's connect on Instagram! Send me a DM and let me know your biggest takeaway from this episode. Instagram: @BSimpsonFitness// C O N T A C T For business inquiries, please visit: https://bsimpsonfitness.comSupport the show

In this flashback episode (originally Episode 22), we're revisiting a foundational conversation about fitness as worship—and why consistency, not intensity, is often the missing piece in a Christian woman's health journey. If you've ever felt stuck in cycles of starting strong and falling off, overwhelmed by what health should look like, or unsure how faith fits into your fitness habits, this episode brings clarity and permission. We talk about: Why treating fitness as worship shifts motivation and removes pressure How consistency blockers show up differently in busy seasons of motherhood Why honoring God with your body doesn't require perfection How small, faithful habits compound into real physical and spiritual strength What it looks like to pursue health without guilt, shame, or burnout This conversation reframes movement, discipline, and self-care through a Biblical lens—especially for Christian women who want to feel strong again without striving or extremes.

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about what it feels like to be alive in a world that seems like it's on fire - the grief, fear, anger, overwhelm and helplessness so many people are carrying.I connect the dots between abusive power and how those in power benefit from keeping us exhausted, distracted, and in despair.I also remind us that “they've always killed the helpers” - from Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. to the modern-day helpers in the streets - and why that makes our presence and courage even more necessary, not less.We talk about nervous system regulation, breathing practices, EFT / Tapping, “rest as resistance”, spiritual practices, and Stoic principles like focusing on what is and isn't in our control.I share practical tools for resourcing ourselves so we can be effective helpers instead of burned-out bystanders and I walk through simple ways to calm your body and mind - so you're not operating from fear, but from a more grounded, loving, and powerful place.I wrap things up by inviting you to honestly explore your role and capacity: Are you an ally, an advocate, or an activist? Are you a citizen, reformer, rebel, or change agent?Mostly, I encourage you to ask yourself about your unique talents, experience, and gifts and how they might be used for good right now - “What can I actually do with who I am,, what I know, and what I have?”Whether that's speaking up, donating, organizing, making phone calls, creating art, caring for your neighbors, or quietly holding space.At the heart of it all is a spiritual call: “Please use me. May I be in service to love.” ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Podcaster and Coach. She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self-development, and transformational work.She's has been a yoga teacher since 1999, and a Thai Yoga Massage practitioner since 2008. She's also a speaker, workshop + retreat leader, and a certified Gateless Writing Instructor. Plus, she's the host and producer of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.KK coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST - and in her personalized HEART-TO-HEART DAYS Coaching via Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.Her down-to-earth approach brings together tools, resources, and stories that coach both the conscious and unconscious mind.She offers a fun and effective combination of Integrative Coaching and Spiritual Mentorship that shifts perceptions, invites self-awareness, and deepens self-knowledge… paired with powerful, science-based pattern interrupts, anxiety-stoppers, and research-backed protocols that train your brain.Her work is designed to foster and encourage independence (instead of co-dependence) and to help people learn to ultimately help and trust themselves!KAREN KENNEY LINKS:

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about how our actions are the true voice of our heart.I share some real-life stories about human kindness, integrity, character, and choosing to do the right thing.Like the stranger who owned up to dinging my car, and the “dressing room angel” who helped me get ready for a funeral during an extra hard week, and my old childhood friend who remembered me as the kid who always shared her snacks!Together, we look at how our everyday actions reveal way more about the content of our character, than any fancy-schmancy spiritual talk ever could.The big takeaway and reminder from this episode for me - is that we all have countless chances every day to “do the right thing, right now”.So, I invite us all to listen to our Inner Teacher - that gentle voice of the heart - and let our behaviors and choices reflect who we truly are. ❤️KAREN KENNEY BIO:Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Podcaster, and Coach.She's known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self-development, and transformational work.She's been a yoga teacher since 1999, and a Thai Yoga Massage practitioner since 2008.She's also a speaker, workshop + retreat leader, and a Certified Gateless Writing Instructor. Plus she's the host of the The Karen Kenney Show podcast.She works with clients individually in her 1:1 coaching program THE QUEST - and in her personalized HEART-TO-HEART DAYS via Voxer. She also leads a group coaching program and community called THE NEST.Her down-to-earth approach brings together tools, resources, and stories that coach both the conscious and the unconscious mind.She offers a combination of Integrative Coaching and Spiritual Mentorship that shifts perceptions, invites self-awareness, and deepens self-knowledge...Paired with powerful, science-based pattern interrupts, anxiety-stoppers, and research-backed protocols that train your brain.Her work is designed to foster and encourage independence (instead of co-dependence) and to help people learn to ultimately help and trust themselves!CONNECT WITH KAREN:Website: http://karenkenney.com/Podcast: https://www.karenkenney.com/podcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/karenkenneylive/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karenkenneylive/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KarenKenney

We treat the holidays like they're a 10-week freefall — but the truth is, most of your meals, your moments, and your mindset are still in your control. In this episode, I'll show you how to stay in your power without swinging to extremes. You'll learn: The surprising "Holiday Math" that changes everything Why your inner narrative matters more than your plan How to use science-backed micro-moves to stay grounded Why movement, sleep, and sunlight aren't about discipline — they're about physiology The real reason people fall off during this season (hint: it's not willpower) Whether you're feeling chaotic, discouraged, or like you always lose ground at this time of year — this episode gives you a new way to stay engaged, without guilt or rigidity.

This is the time of year when most people hit pause on their goals. They drift. They defer. They tell themselves, "I'll get serious again in January." But what if this season — the one most people treat like an exception — could actually be your turning point? In this episode, I'm talking about what I call Separation Season — the window of time between now and the New Year when small daily choices stack up and create the gap between stuck and unstoppable. And spoiler alert: it's not about being perfect. It's about recommitting, over and over again, in small ways that move the needle. But that's not all…