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Joseph Fielding Smith: evolution was not something he thought highly of. The son of Joseph F. Smith and grandson of Hyrum Smith, was a prominent figure in the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As an apostle from 1910 and later Church President, he became known for his strong defense of traditional doctrines, often clashing with those who sought to reconcile faith with modern scientific and academic thought. https://youtu.be/8Kq1TVQBQtE Don't miss our other conversations about this book! https://gospeltangents.com/lds_people_historical/joseph-fielding-smith/ Joseph Fielding Smith Evolution One of the most famous conflicts involved the theory of evolution and the age of the Earth. Smith staunchly opposed the idea of an old earth, particularly the notion of human-like creatures or pre-Adamites living before Adam and Eve. His core objection wasn't simply to evolution itself, but to the idea that there could have been death before the Fall of Adam and Eve. Smith believed that death entered the world because of the Fall, and if death existed before then, it would undermine the necessity and efficacy of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. This principle of no death before the Fall was central to his arguments. This perspective led to direct clashes with contemporaries like James E. Talmage and John A. Widtsoe, who were generally more open to scientific ideas. The most notable dispute involved B.H. Roberts's book manuscript, The Truth, The Way, The Life, which attempted to reconcile a very old Earth and the possibility of pre-Adamites with the Genesis account. Roberts proposed that Adam and Eve were the first humans with souls, not necessarily the first biological humans. As a member of the church's publications committee, Smith absolutely rejected Roberts's ideas, protesting their publication to the Quorum of the Twelve and the First Presidency. While this conflict brewed behind the scenes, Smith publicly denounced the idea of an old Earth and pre-Adamites in a speech. In response, Talmage gave a talk endorsing the possibility of an older Earth, highlighting some public disagreement among church leaders. Ultimately, the First Presidency chose not to endorse either side and requested both men cease public conflict on the issue, preventing Roberts's book from being published at that time. Smith, however, outlived many of his contemporaries and later published his own book, Man His Origin and Destiny, which strongly attacked Darwinism and the higher criticism of the Bible. Family Trauma Smith's career as a defender of traditional beliefs was significantly shaped by his upbringing and early experiences. His father, Joseph F. Smith, was called to testify before Congress during the Reed Smoot hearings. During these hearings, the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (RLDS), led by descendants of Joseph Smith Jr., saw an opportunity. Richard Evans, an RLDS apostle, issued broadsides accusing the LDS Church of corruption, denouncing Brigham Young for originating polygamy and blood atonement, and claiming the RLDS Church was the true successor to Joseph Smith. This became a "family feud.” Joseph F. Smith was infuriated and asked his son, Joseph Fielding Smith, to refute Richard Evans. This charge launched Joseph Fielding Smith into a career of research and writing, focusing on apologetics – the defense of religious beliefs. He published pamphlets refuting Evans, arguing that polygamy originated with Joseph Smith Jr., not Brigham Young. This pamphlet feud led to exchanges in newspaper op-ed pages and solidified Smith's path. He began working in the Church Historian's office during this time and soon became Church Historian, serving for decades until he became Church President in 1970. Fight with Academics His long tenure as Church Historian meant he had significant influence. Unlike contemporaries like Talmage, Widtsoe, Joseph Merrill, Adam Bennion, and B.H.

Dr. Matthew Bowman has just released a new biography on Joseph Fielding Smith. Bowman is the Howard W. Hunter Chair of Mormon Studies at Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, California. The Mormon Studies chair Bowman holds at Claremont Graduate University is the oldest in the country, having been established over 15 years ago. Bowman is the third person to hold the chair, following Richard Bushman and Patrick Mason. Patrick Mason left Claremont to take the chair at Utah State University. https://youtu.be/6VrK15TQVcY Don't miss our other episodes with Dr Matthew Bowman! https://gospeltangents.com/people/matthew-bowman/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. Mormon Studies Other Mormon studies chairs exist at the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley (held by Deidre J Green), and the University of Virginia. Although not directly affiliated with Claremont, the late Jan Shipps is credited with making the study of the Mormon tradition a legitimate academic pursuit for those outside the tradition, enabling universities like Claremont without historical ties to Mormonism to establish such a chair. Before the endowed chair, Anne Taves, a professor interested in Mormonism, taught American religious history at CGU, and Armand Mauss was involved in fundraising and occasionally taught classes. Introductions to Mormon Thought Bowman is also involved in the "Introductions to Mormon Thought" book series, which he co-edits with Joseph Spencer. Published by the University of Illinois, the series aims to stimulate the growth of Mormon intellectual history through accessible introductory volumes on important Mormon thinkers. The series broadly defines "Mormon thinkers" to include artists like CCA Christensen and Minerva Teichert, alongside more traditional intellectuals. The books are intended to be short, accessible, and explore how these individuals influenced how members of the Mormon tradition understood themselves. The series uses the term "Mormon" intentionally broadly to encompass all denominations and movements originating from Joseph Smith's work, including fundamentalist Mormons and figures from the Community of Christ. While initially planned for 10-15 books, the series is doing well and is expected to continue. Other volumes in the series cover figures such as Eugene England (by Christine Hagund), Vardis Fisher (by Mike Austin), Sonia Johnson (by Chris Talbot), Lowell Bennion (by George Handley), Hugh Nibley (by Joseph Spencer), and Richard Bushman (by JB Haws). A future volume is planned on Eliza R. Snow (by Deidre Green), and Bowman hopes for one on Sheri Dew. Joseph Fielding Smith Bowman chose to write his book in the series about Joseph Fielding Smith, though his initial interest was in Bruce R. McConkie. He agreed to write about Smith instead to secure another author's participation in the series. Bowman views Joseph Fielding Smith as Bruce R. McConkie's intellectual parent and considers him the most significant LDS theologian of the 20th century, leaving a deeper and more persistent mark than others like James E. Talmage. While McConkie was influential, Bowman sees him more as a systematizer of his father-in-law's ideas rather than being an original. Other significant 20th/21st-century Mormon thinkers mentioned include B.H. Roberts, Margarita Bautista, Sheri Dew, and Leverne Parmley.. A significant fact about Joseph Fielding Smith is that he was the grandson of Hyrum Smith and the son of Joseph F. Smith. Bowman emphasizes that being a "Smith" was incredibly important to Fielding Smith, shaping his sense of duty and responsibility to continue his family's work. His memories of his father and uncle's violent deaths and his father's need to hide from federal marshals profoundly influenced him, fostering a sense of defensiveness and a perception that the world was hostile and persecuted the family f...

BYU and SLC anti-vice. We discuss the history of Charles A. Callis, his career in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and politics, and his final assignment before death, creating a sexual purity surveillance and counseling/therapy program for Mormons in the 40s. After his death, Spencer W. Kimball took the reins and vastly expanded the reach and purposes of the program, resulting in The Miracle of Forgiveness. Cleon Skousen was running raids on gay clubs and anybody else seen as commie enemies of god's country. The systems they created have adapted, evolved, and conformed to the times, but never gone away, as evidenced by the recent SL Tribue piece about BYU's retrenchment and culture of fear. Then we chat about Minority report, a Tom Cruise sci-fi flick with surprisingly profound concepts. We wrap with happy news about the first openly transgender congressperson in American history.   Show Notes:  https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/ https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/05-the-miracle-of-forgiveness/ https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/16-the-cure-2-0/ https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/07-salt-lake-city-gay-scene/ https://archive.org/details/spencerwkimballt00kimb/page/271/mode/2up?view=theater https://ourphoenixfoundation.org/includes/about.php https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_International https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/gay/individuals?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/transgender/understanding?lang=eng https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/05/byu-blue-why-these-are-dark-days/ https://fairnessforall.org/the-utah-compromise/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen https://police.slc.gov/about/history/ https://lris.com/recent-developments/2012/05/salt-lake-city-vice-squad-disbanded/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Smoot_hearings https://prophetsseersandrevelators.wordpress.com/2021/10/31/the-political-manifesto/ https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/DE2/id/201100 https://news.google.com.au/newspapers?nid=Aul-kAQHnToC&dat=18961109&printsec=frontpage&hl=en https://www.uen.org/utah_history_encyclopedia/e/ELECTIONS.shtml https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_(Utah) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1896_United_States_presidential_election_in_Utah https://archive.org/details/improvementera3707unse/page/434/mode/2up?view=theater https://archiveviewer.org/collections/en/improvement-era#1934 https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/david-o-mckay-diary-excerpts/w-cleon-skousen/ https://www.qsaltlake.com/news/2009/09/28/the-oppressive-50s/ http://www.nomorestrangers.org/timeline-of-mormon-thinking-about-homosexuality/ http://www.elisarolle.com/queerplaces/fghij/Jack%20Pembroke.html https://www.glapn.org/sodomylaws/sensibilities/utah.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Utah#Conversion_therapy https://books.google.com/books?id=rlC1DgAAQBAJ&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Brigham_Young_University_LGBTQ_history https://web.archive.org/web/20100122080551/http://www.affirmation.org/memorial/joseph_fielding_smith.shtml https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1981/04/elder-charles-a-callis-twentieth-century-missionary?lang=eng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_A._Callis https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2001/04/them-that-honour-me-i-will-honour?lang=eng https://thesingleleaf.com/tag/charles-albert-callis/ https://rsc.byu.edu/prophets-apostles-last-dispensation/charles-albert-callis https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/2d1fb5a0-211a-4908-baca-5e3dd9e145eb/0/178?lang=eng https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/chd/individual/charles-albert-callis-1866?lang=eng Article Shannon brought up: The Role of the LDS Church in Utah Politics: An Insider's Look  https://www.mrm.org/utah-politics    MOGP: Minority Report: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/?ref_=tttrv  Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/minority-report    Happy News: https://apnews.com/article/sarah-mcbride-congress-transgender-lgbtq-delaware-9cce7f778e6b57dfdb08986d7410404e?taid=677918364fe1660001b83485&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter   Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod  Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/glassboxpodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/GlassBoxPod  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/  Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop Or find the merch store by clicking on “Store” here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com  Venmo: Shannon-Grover-10  

Bryan Summers was born and raised in Portland, Oregon. He served a mission in Carlsbad, California, and earned a Master's Degree in Library Science at the University of Wales-Aberystwyth. He was a county librarian in Yuma, Arizona for 12 years, and is now a mortgage broker in St George, Utah. Bryan has served in the Church as a nursery leader, ward mission leader, elders quorum president, and bishop. He is currently a teachers quorum assistant. He and his wife have been married 24 years and are the parents of three boys and three girls. Bryan enjoys backpacking—especially the Timberline Trail on Mount Hood—and once spent three weeks wandering around the Kurdish areas of Northern Iraq and Eastern Turkey. Links Acts of the Apostles: @actsofapostles_ The Talmage Story There is already a discussion started about this podcast. Share your thoughts HERE. Watch on YouTube Transcript coming soon Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library Highlights Coming soon The Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 700 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Deseret Book has been the church-owned commercial publisher for more than a century, producing landmark theological volumes such as James E. Talmage's “Jesus the Christ” and LeGrand Richards' “A Marvelous Work and a Wonder.” It is a sought-after brand for Latter-day Saint leaders, scholars and writers, and remains the go-to retail outlet for rank-and-file members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Through the decades, the focus of D.B., as it has come to be known, has expanded to include not only books by and about Latter-day Saint prophets and apostles but also a range of novels and art. The woman overseeing all that is Laurel Day, who rose through the ranks to become D.B.'s president. On this week's show, she talks about her vision for the global company; the new openness in detailing the church's unvarnished history; the increasing visibility of women; the part she plays in deciding what is published and what is put on — and sometimes pulled off — the shelves; and Deseret Book's role in building the worldwide faith.

This episode features a wide ranging conversation between LDF host Dan Wotherspoon and his good friend and historian James Harris about the life and ministry of Elder James E. Talmage. Just before and then in the first few decades of the twentieth century (1862-1933), Elder Talmage served the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in myriad ways. He is among the earliest academics/scholars to come into the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (1911), but even before his time in the quorum he was kept busy leading what is now known as the University of Utah, head of its geology department, as well as being heavily consulted by LDS leaders on a myriad of topics. (All this while he was also married and raising a family, as well!) He is most widely known among church members for three books he produced at the request of the First Presidency: The Articles of Faith, Jesus the Christ, and The Great Apostasy, all of which have been very influential in the lives of Latter-day Saints and the narratives they tell about these subjects.  What most don't know is much about the man himself--and that is where the expertise of James Harris comes in. From him, we get a nice overview of his schooling and church service that intersected with many interesting leaders and issues. But through story and reflection, Harris helps us get a better feel for the man.  We lift him up here as a potential example for many who struggle to be their authentic selves within an organization that often doesn't feel welcoming to secular knowledge. His steadiness and ability to see things from large perspectives, even if some of his colleagues didn't, or in some cases vociferously disagreed with him, is worth considering   There is much in this conversation that one might label, "sidetrips," as during the course of things, Dan and Jim reflect on wider issues and things they find helpful or interesting that were prompted by something in Elder Talmage's life. Listen in!

The Great Apostasy Considered in the Light of Scriptural and Secular History

Neste episódio, Ed Sousa e Gustavo Rodrigues conversam sobre o papel da Queda no plano, a diferença entre pecado e transgressão e como os homens serão punidos pelos seus pecados. Conteúdo deste episódio: - Adão e Eva como sacerdotes no jardim do Éden; - Satanás disfarçado no jardim do Éden; - A árvore do conhecimento do bem e do mal como um véu; - O plano de Satanás no jardim do Éden; - O caminho para a árvore da vida bloqueado; - A diferença entre pecado e transgressão; - Pagar até o último centavo; - A duração do castigo de Deus; - Entender a Queda para compreender a Expiação de Cristo. Referências: 1. James E Talmage , "Regras de Fé", p.47-64. 2. Etimologia da palavra transgressão: ver origemdapalavra.com.br. 3. Shara Drimalla & BibleProject Team, “Were Adam and Eve Priests in Eden?”, acessado em bibleproject.com. 4. Richard D. Draper, et al., Commentary, p. 43. 5. H. W. Nibley, Return, p. 63. 6. Jeffrey Bradshaw, In God's Image and Likeness Ancient and Modern Perspectives on the Book of Moses, P.728. 7. Dallin H. Oaks, “O Grande Plano de Felicidade”, Conferência Geral de outubro de 1993. 8. Ezra Taft Benson, “A Witness and a Warning”, 1988, p. 33.

Quais são os lugares mais prováveis de receber um templo no Brasil e em outras partes do mundo? Como será o terceiro templo em Jerusalém? O que sabemos sobre o templo que será construído na Nova Jerusalém? No último episódio desta série, Ed Sousa e Gustavo Rodrigues conversam sobre estas e outras questões a respeito dos futuros templos da Igreja de Jesus Cristo. Referências: 1. James E. Talmage, A casa do Senhor, p.32-34 3. Site (não oficial) sobre o crescimento da Igreja de Jesus Cristo dos Santos dos Últimos Dias: ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com. Mapa mostrando templos construídos e possíveis locais para novos templos no mundo: Potential New Temples - Google My Maps 2. Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses 19:2 3. Matthew B. Brown e Paul Thomas Smith, Symbols in Stone: Symbolism on the Early Temples of the Restoration, p. 21-23, 177-178

Jennilyn Prior was born on April 26, 1974 in Springville, UT. She was raised on a dairy farm and has fond memories of her childhood upbringing. She currently resides in Provo, and her greatest joy in life is being the mother of four beautiful children. Jennilyn is a certified yoga instructor and has taught yoga and meditation for over two decades. She especially enjoys teaching Christ-centered meditation for those of her faith. She loves working with people of all walks of life and has extensive leadership experience in several corporations and organizations, including as a Nu Skin Training manager, Platinum Executive at Zija international, Founder and President of the Soaring with Hope Foundation, and Founder of the Sister Angel program DBA under TURN community services, and one of the Founders of Get REAL Foundation. She is passionate about creating art that inspires others. Her artwork has been displayed in local galleries, Broke Restaurant, the Provo Library Gallery, bookstores, and currently in the James E. Talmage building on the Brigham Young University, Provo campus. She furthering her artistic talent by currently attending Beaux Arts academy (rated as one of the top five art schools in the nation by Blue Review Magazine), where she is privileged to learn from renowned artists and sculptors. Jennilyn was chosen as the 2011 AMI Utah Valley Young Mother of the year. She is an avid speaker for women and loves teaching play, creativity, life balance, delighting in daily duties, discovering our divine purpose, and finding joy in the journey.

Jennilyn Prior was born on April 26, 1974 in Springville, UT. She was raised on a dairy farm and has fond memories of her childhood upbringing. She currently resides in Provo, and her greatest joy in life is being the mother of four beautiful children. Jennilyn is a certified yoga instructor and has taught yoga and meditation for over two decades. She especially enjoys teaching Christ-centered meditation for those of her faith. She loves working with people of all walks of life and has extensive leadership experience in several corporations and organizations, including as a Nu Skin Training manager, Platinum Executive at Zija international, Founder and President of the Soaring with Hope Foundation, and Founder of the Sister Angel program DBA under TURN community services, and one of the Founders of Get REAL Foundation. She is passionate about creating art that inspires others. Her artwork has been displayed in local galleries, Broke Restaurant, the Provo Library Gallery, bookstores, and currently in the James E. Talmage building on the Brigham Young University, Provo campus. She furthering her artistic talent by currently attending Beaux Arts academy (rated as one of the top five art schools in the nation by Blue Review Magazine), where she is privileged to learn from renowned artists and sculptors. Jennilyn was chosen as the 2011 AMI Utah Valley Young Mother of the year. She is an avid speaker for women and loves teaching play, creativity, life balance, delighting in daily duties, discovering our divine purpose, and finding joy in the journey.

On the latest episode of Mormon Book Reviews Brent Ashworth returns to "Show & Tell". In this segment we discuss how Brent was able to acquire the "lost" publisher's manuscript of "Jesus the Christ" by James E. Talmage. The importance of this influential book is discussed, why it was written in the Temple, how it is used by Latter-day Saints to establish the birth of Christ on April 6th, the Michigan Relics, the Dream Mine and the legacy of Talmage. Brent also shares what Jesus means to him.PatreonLink to purchase "Show & Tell"

Why do we pay tithing?     Isn't it unfair that we have to give up 10% of all we earn when the rest of the world pays nothing?    Listen in today to find out why tithing is such a great privilege to pay.    For the James E. Talmage quote, see The Lord's Tenth (pamphlet, 1968), 10–11.   And make sure to check out our brand new FHE-on-the-Go, a done-for-you Family Home Evening podcast available exclusively on Apple Podcasts!   For sign up details click here:   https://kristenwalkersmith.com/fhe-on-the-go/

An audio recording of chapter 42 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_42Ancient predictions of the Lord's second advent.—Modern revelation affirms the same.—Today and tomorrow.—The great and dreadful day near at hand.—Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven.—The Millennium.—The celestial consummation

An audio recording of chapter 41 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_41A new dispensation.—Joseph Smith's perplexity over sectarian strife.—The Eternal Father and His Son Jesus Christ appear to and personally instruct Joseph Smith.—Visitation of Moroni.—The Book of Mormon.—Aaronic Priesthood restored by John the Baptist.—Melchizedek Priesthood restored by Peter, James, and John.—The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.—Divine manifestations in Kirtland Temple.—The Lord Jesus Christ appears.—Specific authority of olden dispensations conferred by Moses, Elias, and Elijah.—The Holy Priesthood now operative on earth

An audio recording of chapter 40 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_40The great falling away as predicted.—Individual apostasy from the Church.—Apostasy of the Church.—Constantine makes Christianity the religion of state.—Papal claims to secular authority.—Churchly tyranny.—The Dark Ages.—The inevitable revolt.—The Reformation.—Rise of Church of England.—Catholicism and Protestantism.—The apostasy affirmed.—Mission of Columbus and the Pilgrim Fathers predicted in ancient scripture.—Fulfilment of the prophecies.—Establishment of American nation provided for

An audio recording of chapter 39 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_39The Lord's death signalized by great calamities on western continent.—The Voice of the Lord Jesus Christ heard.—His visitations to the Nephites.—The Nephite Twelve.—Baptism among Nephites.—The Mosaic law fulfilled.—Address to Nephites compared with Sermon on the Mount.—Sacrament of bread and wine instituted among Nephites.—Name of Christ's Church.—The Three Nephites.—Growth of the Church.—Final apostasy of Nephite nation

An audio recording of chapter 38 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_38Matthias ordained to the apostleship.—Bestowal of the Holy Ghost at Pentecost.—The apostles' preaching.—Imprisoned and delivered.—Gamaliel's advice to the council.—Stephen the martyr.—Saul of Tarsus, his conversion.—Becomes Paul the apostle.—The record by John the Revelator.—Close of the apostolic ministry

An audio recording of chapter 37 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_37Christ is risen.—The women at the sepulchre.—Angelic communications.—The risen Lord seen by Mary Magdalene.—And by other women.—A priestly conspiracy of falsehood.—The Lord and two disciples on the Emmaus road.—He appears to disciples in Jerusalem and eats in their presence.—Doubting Thomas.—The Lord appears to the apostles at the sea of Tiberias.—Other manifestations in Galilee.—Final commission to the apostles.—The ascension

An audio recording of chapter 36 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_36Actuality of the Lord's death.—Condition of spirits between death and resurrection.—The Savior among the dead.—The gospel preached to the spirits in prison

An audio recording of chapter 35 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_35On the way to Calvary.—The Lord's address to the daughters of Jerusalem.—The crucifixion.—Occurrences between the Lord's death and burial.—The burial.—The sepulchre guarded

An audio recording of chapter 34 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_34The Jewish trial.—Christ before Annas and Caiaphas.—The illegal night court.—The morning session.—False witnesses and unrighteous conviction.—Peter's denial of his Lord.—Christ's first arraignment before Pilate.—Before Herod.—Second appearance before Pilate.—Pilate's surrender to Jewish clamor.—The sentence of crucifixion.—Suicide of Judas Iscariot

An audio recording of chapter 33 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_33Judas Iscariot in conspiracy with the Jews.—Preparations for the Lord's last Passover.—The last supper of Jesus with the Twelve.—The traitor designated.—Ordinance of washing of feet.—Sacrament of the Lord's Supper.—The betrayer goes out into the night.—Discourse following the supper.—The High-Priestly Prayer.—The Lord's agony in Gethsemane.—The betrayal and the arrest

An audio recording of chapter 32 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_32Prophecies relating to destruction of Jerusalem and the Lord's future advent.—Watch!—Parable of Ten Virgins.—Of the Entrusted Talents.—The inevitable judgment.—Another and specific prediction of the Lord's impending death

An audio recording of chapter 31 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_31Pharisees and Herodians in conspiracy.—Cæsar to have his due.—The image on the coin.—Sadducees and the resurrection.—Levirate marriages.—The great commandment.—Jesus turns questioner.—Scathing denunciation of scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!—Lamentation over Jerusalem.—The widow's mites.—Christ's final withdrawal from temple.—Destruction of temple predicted

An audio recording of chapter 30 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_30A leafy but fruitless fig tree cursed.—Second clearing of the temple.—Children shout Hosanna.—Christ's authority challenged by the rulers.—Parable of the two sons. Of the Wicked Husbandmen.—The rejected Stone to be head of the corner.—Parable of the Royal Marriage Feast.—The wedding garment lacking

An audio recording of chapter 29 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_29Jesus again foretells His death and resurrection.—Aspiring request of James and John.—Sight restored near Jericho.—Zaccheus the chief publican.—Parable of the Pounds.—The supper in the house of Simon the leper.—Mary's tribute in anointing Jesus.—Iscariot's protest.—Christ's triumphal entry into Jerusalem.—Certain Greeks seek interview with Jesus.—The Voice from heaven

An audio recording of chapter 28 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_28At the Feast of Dedication.—Sheep know the Shepherd's Voice.—The Lord's retirement in Perea.—Lazarus raised from the dead.—Jewish hierarchy agitated over the miracle.—Prophecy by Caiaphas, the high priest.—Jesus in retirement at Ephraim

An audio recording of chapter 27 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_27In the house of one of the chief Pharisees.—Parable of the Great Supper.—Counting the cost.—Salvation even for publicans and sinners.—Parable of the Lost Sheep repeated.—Of the Lost Coin.—Of the Prodigal Son.—Of the Unrighteous Steward.—Of the Rich Man and Lazarus.—Of the Unprofitable Servants.—Ten lepers healed.—Parable of the Pharisee and Publican.—On marriage and divorce.—Jesus and the little ones.—The rich young ruler.—First may be last and last first.—Parable of the Laborers

An audio recording of chapter 26 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_26Jesus rejected in Samaria.—James and John reproved for revengeful desire.—The Seventy charged and sent.—Their return.—A lawyer's question.—Parable of Good Samaritan.—Martha and Mary.—Ask and receive.—Parable of Friend at Midnight.—Criticism on Pharisees and lawyers.—Parable of Foolish Rich Man.—The unrepentant to perish.—Parable of Barren Fig Tree.—A woman healed on the Sabbath.—Many or few to be saved?—Jesus warned of Herod's design

An audio recording of chapter 25 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_25  Departure from Galilee.—At the Feast of Tabernacles.—Another charge of Sabbath desecration.—Living water for the spiritually thirsty.—Plans to arrest Jesus.—Nicodemus protests.—Woman taken in adultery.—Christ the light of the world.—The truth shall make men free.—Christ's seniority over Abraham.—Sight restored on Sabbath day.—Physical and spiritual blindness.—Shepherd and sheep-herder.—Christ the Good Shepherd.—His inherent power over life and death.—Sheep of another fold

An audio recording of chapter 24 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_24  Youthful demoniac healed.—Further prediction of Christ's death and resurrection.—The tribute money; supplied by a miracle.—Humility illustrated by a little child.—Parable of the Lost Sheep.—In Christ's name.—My brother and I.—Parable of the Unmerciful Servant

An audio recording of chapter 23 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_23  Visitation of Moses and Elijah.—The Father again proclaims the Son.—The apostles temporarily restrained from testifying concerning the transfiguration.—Elias and Elijah.—The Lesser and the Higher Priesthood

Just as early Christians sought out pieces of the cross or searched for the location of Noah's Ark, it is natural for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to seek to interact with their history. The objects in this book constitute a glimpse at the richness of days gone by and allow us to see, heft, and handle those now-priceless objects that early Latter-day Saints did.  In 50 Relics of the Restoration (Ceder Fort, 2020), you will find photos and commentary on objects such as - The Brown Seer Stone - Liberty Jail's door - David Patten's rifle - Joseph Smith's handkerchief - James E. Talmage's Jesus the Christ manuscript - Joseph and Hyrum Smith's death masks - Hyrum Smith's Martyrdom Clothing - And much more. 50 Relics of the Restoration highlights the history of the church through sacred objects gathered throughout its history. With pictures of each artifact, Casey Paul Griffiths and Mary Jane Woodger have written the history of the item and brought forth interesting stories of the Latter-day Saints. Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

Just as early Christians sought out pieces of the cross or searched for the location of Noah's Ark, it is natural for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to seek to interact with their history. The objects in this book constitute a glimpse at the richness of days gone by and allow us to see, heft, and handle those now-priceless objects that early Latter-day Saints did.  In 50 Relics of the Restoration (Ceder Fort, 2020), you will find photos and commentary on objects such as - The Brown Seer Stone - Liberty Jail's door - David Patten's rifle - Joseph Smith's handkerchief - James E. Talmage's Jesus the Christ manuscript - Joseph and Hyrum Smith's death masks - Hyrum Smith's Martyrdom Clothing - And much more. 50 Relics of the Restoration highlights the history of the church through sacred objects gathered throughout its history. With pictures of each artifact, Casey Paul Griffiths and Mary Jane Woodger have written the history of the item and brought forth interesting stories of the Latter-day Saints. Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/american-studies

Just as early Christians sought out pieces of the cross or searched for the location of Noah's Ark, it is natural for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to seek to interact with their history. The objects in this book constitute a glimpse at the richness of days gone by and allow us to see, heft, and handle those now-priceless objects that early Latter-day Saints did.  In 50 Relics of the Restoration (Ceder Fort, 2020), you will find photos and commentary on objects such as - The Brown Seer Stone - Liberty Jail's door - David Patten's rifle - Joseph Smith's handkerchief - James E. Talmage's Jesus the Christ manuscript - Joseph and Hyrum Smith's death masks - Hyrum Smith's Martyrdom Clothing - And much more. 50 Relics of the Restoration highlights the history of the church through sacred objects gathered throughout its history. With pictures of each artifact, Casey Paul Griffiths and Mary Jane Woodger have written the history of the item and brought forth interesting stories of the Latter-day Saints. Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/history

Just as early Christians sought out pieces of the cross or searched for the location of Noah's Ark, it is natural for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to seek to interact with their history. The objects in this book constitute a glimpse at the richness of days gone by and allow us to see, heft, and handle those now-priceless objects that early Latter-day Saints did.  In 50 Relics of the Restoration (Ceder Fort, 2020), you will find photos and commentary on objects such as - The Brown Seer Stone - Liberty Jail's door - David Patten's rifle - Joseph Smith's handkerchief - James E. Talmage's Jesus the Christ manuscript - Joseph and Hyrum Smith's death masks - Hyrum Smith's Martyrdom Clothing - And much more. 50 Relics of the Restoration highlights the history of the church through sacred objects gathered throughout its history. With pictures of each artifact, Casey Paul Griffiths and Mary Jane Woodger have written the history of the item and brought forth interesting stories of the Latter-day Saints. Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/american-west

Just as early Christians sought out pieces of the cross or searched for the location of Noah's Ark, it is natural for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to seek to interact with their history. The objects in this book constitute a glimpse at the richness of days gone by and allow us to see, heft, and handle those now-priceless objects that early Latter-day Saints did.  In 50 Relics of the Restoration (Ceder Fort, 2020), you will find photos and commentary on objects such as - The Brown Seer Stone - Liberty Jail's door - David Patten's rifle - Joseph Smith's handkerchief - James E. Talmage's Jesus the Christ manuscript - Joseph and Hyrum Smith's death masks - Hyrum Smith's Martyrdom Clothing - And much more. 50 Relics of the Restoration highlights the history of the church through sacred objects gathered throughout its history. With pictures of each artifact, Casey Paul Griffiths and Mary Jane Woodger have written the history of the item and brought forth interesting stories of the Latter-day Saints. Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/christian-studies

Just as early Christians sought out pieces of the cross or searched for the location of Noah's Ark, it is natural for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to seek to interact with their history. The objects in this book constitute a glimpse at the richness of days gone by and allow us to see, heft, and handle those now-priceless objects that early Latter-day Saints did.  In 50 Relics of the Restoration (Ceder Fort, 2020), you will find photos and commentary on objects such as - The Brown Seer Stone - Liberty Jail's door - David Patten's rifle - Joseph Smith's handkerchief - James E. Talmage's Jesus the Christ manuscript - Joseph and Hyrum Smith's death masks - Hyrum Smith's Martyrdom Clothing - And much more. 50 Relics of the Restoration highlights the history of the church through sacred objects gathered throughout its history. With pictures of each artifact, Casey Paul Griffiths and Mary Jane Woodger have written the history of the item and brought forth interesting stories of the Latter-day Saints. Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/religion

An audio recording of chapter 22 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_22  Ceremonial washings.—Pharisees rebuked.—Jesus in borders of Tyre and Sidon.—Daughter of Syro-Phoenician woman healed.—Miracles wrought in coasts of Decapolis.—Four thousand people miraculously fed.—More seekers after signs.—Leaven of the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Herodians.—Peter's great confession, "Thou art the Christ"

An audio recording of chapter 21 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_21  Jesus again in Nazareth.—The Twelve charged and sent out.—Their return.—Five thousand people miraculously fed.—Miracle of walking upon the water.—People seek Christ for more loaves and fishes.—Christ the bread of life.—Many disciples turn away

An audio recording of chapter 20 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_20  Candidates for discipleship.—Stilling the storm.—Quieting the demons in region of Gadara.—Raising of daughter of Jairus.—Restoration to life and resurrection.—A woman healed amidst the throng.—Blind see and dumb speak

Included in Bruce R. McConkie's “Seven Deadly Heresies” list was the notion that there could be progression between kingdoms of glory. He said people “neither progress from one kingdom to another, nor does a lower kingdom ever get where a higher kingdom once was. Whatever eternal progression there is, it is within its sphere.” This supposition, however, comes in direct conflict with a host of other church leaders who have voiced support for the idea of progress from kingdom to kingdom. Joseph and Hyrum, James E. Talmage, B.H. Roberts, and J. Reuben Clark among others believed in eternal increase from one kingdom to the next.

Included in Bruce R. McConkie's “Seven Deadly Heresies” list was the notion that there could be progression between kingdoms of glory. He said people “neither progress from one kingdom to another, nor does a lower kingdom ever get where a higher kingdom once was. Whatever eternal progression there is, it is within its sphere.” This supposition, however, comes in direct conflict with a host of other church leaders who have voiced support for the idea of progress from kingdom to kingdom. Joseph and Hyrum, James E. Talmage, B.H. Roberts, and J. Reuben Clark among others believed in eternal increase from one kingdom to the next.

An audio recording of chapter 19 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_19  The Sower.—Wheat and Tares.—Seed growing secretly.—Mustard Seed.—Leaven.—Hidden Treasure.—Pearl of Great Price.—Gospel Net.—The Lord's purpose in parabolic teaching.—Parables in general

An audio recording of chapter 18 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_18  Healing of centurion's servant.—Young man of Nain raised from the dead.—John Baptist's message to Jesus.—The Lord's commentary thereon.—Death of John Baptist.—Jesus in house of Simon the Pharisee.—Penitent woman forgiven.—Christ's authority ascribed to Beelzebub.—The sin against the Holy Ghost.—Sign-seekers

An audio recording of chapter 17 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_17   The Beatitudes.—Dignity and responsibility in the ministry.—The Mosaic law superseded by the gospel of Christ.—Sincerity of purpose. The Lord's Prayer.—True wealth.—Promise and re-assurance.—Hearing and doing

An audio recording of chapter 16 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_16 Their call and ordination.—The Twelve considered individually.—Their characteristics in general.—Disciples and apostles

An audio recording of chapter 15 of James E. Talmage's classic work, Jesus the Christ. Read by Bradley Ross. Music from Lara St. John, used by permission via Magnatune.com. The original text of this item, including footnotes and endnotes, is available from Project Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22542/22542-h/22542-h.htm#chapter_15 Sabbath distinctively sacred to Israel.—Cripple healed on Sabbath day.—Accusations by the Jews and the Lord's reply thereto.—Disciples charged with Sabbath-breaking.—Man with a withered hand healed on Sabbath day

Early Mormon apostles BH Roberts, John A. Widtsoe, and James E. Talmage seemed to be very amenable to evolution.  It seems like Joseph Fielding Smith on the other hand, had an outsize influence on LDS thought, and tended more towards a creationist stance.  In our next conversation with Ben Spackman, we'll talk about that dynamic, and how early leaders diverged, and how it seems like Smith temporarily won the evolutionary debate. https://youtu.be/ye2ntdq0S4E GT: So let me throw that out there. We talked about who won between Tertullian and Augustine and it sounds like Augustine won? Is that a fair assumption? Before you answer that, I also want to do this. Let's talk about Talmage, Roberts and Widtsoe and Joseph Fielding Smith. It sounds like Joseph Fielding Smith won in a lot of minds. Ben: In a lot of ways, I think he did. If you want to be cynical, he kind of waited until his opponents died. Then he published Man, His Origin and Destiny, which was kind of his young-Earth creationist book. Parts of that were written word for word 20 or 30 years earlier. None of his discussions with apostles, who were in some cases his senior and had Ph.D.'s in relevant fields shifted him one bit. Ben:  On the one hand, you can look at that as very admirable. His strength was, he thought, and rightly so, at least in this narrow way, what is important is that we're faithful to scripture. Where that goes wrong, and I would disagree with it, is how he read scripture. There are other examples of this in LDS history. I have made a very loose argument somewhere that, in a way, Joseph Fielding Smith was kind of the epitome of 19th century assumptions that Mormons had inherited. These other three guys were outsiders in several ways. First of all, they were all foreign, technically. Roberts was British, Talmage was British, Widtsoe was Norwegian. So they were not raised in a set of 19th century American assumptions. They were getting 19th century European assumptions which differed in some ways. They were all converts and so they were not raised with, what you might think of as religious Mormon assumptions that they would just start imbibing by osmosis, from age three onwards in church or something. So, it's interesting that these three guys who are outsiders in significant ways are the ones who opposed Joseph Fielding Smith's insider perspective. By insider I mean, you couldn't be much more of an insider than Joseph Fielding Smith. I mean by his position, by his family, by his history. He was just at the center, at the core. Check out our conversation….. Joseph Fielding Smith's views supporting creationism over evolution seems to hold more sway than apostle BH Roberts, John A Widtsoe, and James E. Talmage in the LDS Church. Don't forget to check out our previous conversation with Ben! 242: Evolution & Bible: Irreconcilable Differences? (Spackman)