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Retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective Gary Jenkins sits down with former criminal and prison minister Bill Corum for one of the most unusual conversations ever featured on Gangland Wire. Bill Corum recounts his journey from car theft and prison escapes in the early 1960s to his deep involvement in Kansas City's criminal underworld in the 1970s and early 1980s. He describes his work around pornography, prostitution, stolen property, cocaine trafficking, and his connections to notorious Kansas City underworld figures. Gary and Bill discuss legendary Kansas City mob fence Sol Landi and his murder by assassins sent by the mob, the River Quay era, Junior Bradley, corrupt influences in local politics and the courts, and the explosive cocaine culture that swept through Kansas City during the 1980s. Bill also shares stories involving Weld Wheels founder Kenny Weld, cocaine trafficking operations, and the dangerous atmosphere surrounding organized crime in Kansas City. The conversation dives into: Bill's prison escape and stolen car career The prostitution business in Independence, Missouri Mob-connected fences and stolen property rings Cocaine trafficking in Kansas City during the early 1980s The murder of Saul Landy River Quay nightlife and mob influence Corrupt officials and criminal networks Kansas City organized crime personalities Prison life and criminal culture Bill Corum's dramatic religious conversion in 1983 His decades-long prison ministry work across America Bill also explains how he transformed his life after addiction, violence, and years in the criminal world, eventually dedicating his life to prison outreach and ministry programs throughout the United States. You can learn more about Bill Corum and his book at either The Ultimate Pardon or Bill Corum Official Website If you're interested in true crime, mafia history, and real law enforcement stories, this is an episode you don't want to miss. 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And I have a guy that I’d heard of and I’d seen on YouTube and I have mu- we have mutual friends, but I had never actually met him. And I, so I g- I… Some people he knows asked me to be on their show. And so I was on their show, and Bill was on that show at the same time. So we started talking. We had lunch and we had all these… We were running in the same circles, but separate circles that then overlapped every once in a while. He was on one side of the law and I was on the other. So Bill Corum. Welcome, Bill. Thank you, Gary. Thank you so much. And we were running in opposite… We were running real close- … but I was careful. When [00:01:00] I got out of prison, it- You were. When I got out of prison in 1964, I had two goals. Yeah. Never go back, and never get caught. And I started breaking the law the day I got out of prison, and I broke the law for almost 19 years and didn’t get caught. I got caught a couple times at little things, and I got… I hired a high-powered criminal attorney that came out of Alex Peebles’ office who’s now a judge. I won’t even mention his name. He’s now a judge. I think I told you who it was. But and Alex got me out of a couple deals way back when. But little things. And I was still, doing everything. And I went for almost 19 years and didn’t get caught. Unlike many of my friends, I’ve been in prison ministry for 40 years now, and I run around with a lot of guys that did a lot of time. 25 years, 40 years. Li- they had double life without parole, now they’re out But I never got caught. Yeah. And I was speaking at a women’s prison just recently, and I was talking to the women, and I was telling that story, and I said, “I got out and I [00:02:00] went for 19 years.” She said, “You must have been awful smart.” I said I wa- I wasn’t too smart or I wouldn’t have been doing that stuff.” But I did know ways and one thing was ’cause I didn’t talk to people. I didn’t have a lot of… Kinda like the trench coat robbers. They robbed banks for 15 years- Yeah … and never got caught because they didn’t email, text, phone calls, none of that. Yeah. They would, they would- And they moved away too. Oh, yeah. Kinda moved away from their home territory, so they- Yeah y- they weren’t having their buddies come up to them say, “Hey, what are you doing? Where you been?” “I haven’t seen you for a while.” And then they turn around and tell some cop that they know, “Hey, I can’t remember the guy’s name now. Billy Kirkpatrick. Billy Kirkpatrick. He’s been out of town. He just got back.” And, you know- Yeah … then they put… Suddenly they get this notice about these bank robbers somewhere else. They… He didn’t do that. He stayed- … out of town. So Bill, let’s- No, that was me. Go ahead. Go, let’s go back and start you from the beginning. Introduce to who you are to my guys, ’cause they don’t know you. I didn’t know you, ’cause you were such a low profile in this world. You said you got out of prison. Why don’t we [00:03:00] start with that? Where, what were you in the joint for originally? I was originally in there for Dyer Act, which is, in the feds, that’s interstate transportation- Yeah of stolen motor vehicles. I was in the Marine Corps. I went AWOL. I got caught. I went back. I got back AWOL again. I went back. They put me on restrictions, said I couldn’t leave the base. I was at that point in my life where nobody could tell me what to do. And so I’s “I’m leaving the base,” and I left and I think I stole 10, 12 cars while I was out. And then I got put in the… When I got back the next time, they put me in the brig, and I escaped from the brig. And and I stole a car off the base back in tho- in the ’60s, early ’60s, ’62, 3. People left their keys in their car. Yeah. And I went out. I was in the parachute locker painting. When the guard came in to check on me, I hit him in the back of the head with a full bucket of paint, a full gallon of paint, and I went out the window and I got a car, and I actually had a guy with me. He said, “I’m going with you.” And so we got in the car, and when we got to [00:04:00] the gate, I said, “Now, if that guard steps out at the gate, I’m running over him.” And he’s “No, don’t do…” I said “Just shut up. I’m running over him.” And I got to the gate, and the guard stepped out and saluted me. And I’m like, “What in the world?” I drove into town, run out of gas, Gary. Got out and stole… I don’t know how I remember this. I stole a ’62 maroon Bonneville. And when I was walking away from the car, my buddy looked back and started laughing. I said, “What are you laughing about?” He said, “I see why they saluted us. That car had a colonel sticker on the bumper.” So then I stole that car, that Bonneville, drove into Mississippi. Because I always ask guys in prisons, “How many of you know when you escape from prison you need some different clothes?” Yeah. So I drove into a little town called Leland, Mississippi, and I was breaking in a clothing store to get me some clothes. It was 11:00 at night, and I looked down, I was climbing up on some boxes to get to the roof to go in the skylight, ’cause they had analog alarms, they were easy to beat. [00:05:00] And I looked down and I saw a flashlight coming down the alley. So I dropped down, ran the other way, and I turned the corner and ran into the biggest, fattest Mississippi sheriff you ever seen. And he had a gun, he had a gun about this long. And he stuck it right here, and he goes, “Where are you going, boy?” And I said, “With you, sir.” That’s what I said. And that was the end of the Marine Corps. So now I’ve taken a car across the state line, and the feds step in. And I went to… I got a six-year sentence. I got what they call a zip six. And back then, before ’86, now in ’86 they passed it to 85%. Yeah. But prior to 80- prior to ’86, you could get out of the feds at one-third of your sentence. And so I got this six-year sentence. I got out in two years, and when I got out, I said, “I’m never getting caught again. I’m never going back to prison.” And I went for ni- and I just started right then. And everything from then on was like, I got involved with pornography. I was promoting [00:06:00] pornography and prostitution. There’s a story in my book about me being a… I was a bodyguard and a chauffeur for a lady that had a cat house over in Independence. You know where Inglewood was in Independence? And guys- You know where- … In- Independence is a suburb of Kansas City, but it’s like whole, decently large city for a suburb- Yeah … but it’s connected to it. Yeah. That’s where Harry Truman was from- That’s right … and retired back to. Yeah. So y- you were over there probably on the east side of Independence. Inglewood’s kinda closer to Kansas City, over there- Yes … by Dogpatch, in what we call Dogpatch. That’s- The- … kinda totally lawless area. And so there was a guy there that I was friends with that had a record store. He was the first guy in Kan- his name was Tony Marino. He’s in my book. He’s dead now. He was the first guy ever in Kansas City to sell paraphernalia in a record store. And he was making 25,000 a month- Wow … back in the… Yeah, when it started. That was a lot of money. And he, right next to him was a [00:07:00] store, it’s still there. I go by it all the time, ’cause we eat at the Englewood Cafe all the time. It’s the only one on that little s- first strip there that’s got steps going up. And a lady up there had a cathouse for 12 years, prostitutes. And her main customers were executives from Ford Motor Company- … from General Motors, and from Hallmark Cards. And the reason, Gary, was because she knew if she had executives, they weren’t gonna talk. Yeah. And she had beautiful women. She didn’t have ladies like up on Main and Troost and Prospect. Yeah. The- these women had all their teeth, and they were- … and they were good-looking. Yeah. And so the first guy, a- actually, who got me the job was Sal Rello, that o- that owned he owned that deluxe deli down on 430, where the Erotic City is now. Oh, yeah. He owned that- Yeah … he owned that bar. Heard about him, yeah. And I told him for years, I said, “You need to open an adult bookstore here,” because Gary, he was the only bar in Kansas City, the only bar [00:08:00] in Kansas City that was open on Election Day. You know why? ‘Cause he was in the county. He was in the county. He wasn’t in- Wasn’t in the city, yeah … he wasn’t in the city. And he was open on Election Day. And I told him, I said, “Man, if you’d open an adult bookstore, you could make a lot of money.” He never did, of course. Yeah. And then they put Erotic City in there, and it went good for a few years and stuff, yeah. But so he’s the one that told me about her. I went to interview with her, and she said, “I just have one question. Do you carry a gun?” I said, “No, ma’am, I carry two guns.” And she said, “You’re hired.” And so G- Gary, I picked her up every day on the Plaza. She lived in a $2,000 a month apartment on the Plaza in 1976. Yeah. That was a lot of money. That’s five today. And, yeah, and I took her to get her facial every Tuesday. I took her to the beauty shop every Thursday, and read about her in my book. She was 80 years old. The name of that chapter in my book is 80-Year-Old Hooker. She was 80, 80 years old, and she [00:09:00] ran it like a business. I had, I, she opened at 9:00 in the morning and closed at 5:00 at night, and ran it just five days a week, just like a business. And I wouldn’t be surprised she didn’t pay taxes. She was legit, man. Yeah. And I knew you can’t operate something like that for 12 years in Independence, Missouri, and not have the police know about it. No, they knew about it. Oh, yeah. It’s that upper echelon, they were, they just steered people away from each other. Oh, yeah. Don’t worry about that. Oh, yeah. That’s right. So that was- So Bill, y- you, you moved from that- Into the drug business now, how did you, how’d you even get started in that? Where like 1960s, ’60, by the late ’60s, drugs are starting to, become more popular and there becomes a real market for it that’s among- Yeah a much larger constituency than ever before. So now, how did you- I re- … move into that? I, oh, I really, for years and years, Gary, years, I didn’t have a partner [00:10:00] because I knew if I had to run, I didn’t want somebody… I didn’t know if my partner would tell on me, so I did everything by myself. I did one thing one time and I had to have a partner, and I stole a computer out of a crane at General Motors down in Leeds. And I, and my fence, the chapter in my book, They Killed My Fence, that was Saul Andy. Yeah. And when Saul got killed, like they killed my fence, because anything I took to Saul, he’d buy it. Didn’t matter if it was guns or it didn’t matter what it was. And I didn’t never keep anything except cash. If I had money, I’d keep it, but I’d never keep anything. I didn’t keep diamond rings or… I got rid of all that stuff, ’cause I never wanted anything to be able to identify me and tie me to a crime. And Saul, when he got killed, of course, then I started dealing with another guy. But Saul was taking all that and selling it to Junior Bradley, most of it, the stuff that Junior- And, and- … would be interested in. And guys- But, J- Junior Bradley, I gotta explain who Junior Bradley was. Junior Bradley was the mob fence in Kansas City. He was probably the biggest fence in Kansas City I got a [00:11:00] feeling. He, and what he started doing was trading Dilaudid especially for stolen property, and he had a little deli right across from police headquarters and City Hall, and everybody knew Junior. Everybody loved Junior. Everybody liked Junior. He’s always doing favors for people. If you went in the penitentiary, you’d go talk to Junior and say, “Okay, what, what’s gonna happen when I get here? Can you help me out?” And he’ll say, “I’ll make some calls.” Or I, we had, we overheard him on a wiretap once saying- a, a father called him and said, my son’s got to report up here to Leavenworth to the camp.” He said, “Okay, I’ll take care of it. I’ll be somebody there to meet him there.” And I’ve had many other reports but Junior was the main mob fence. So go ahead- Yeah … and we’ll talk what you were dealing with- Yeah Junior Bradley. Yeah be- let’s back up. So you asked me about how I got into drugs. So all those years when I was married, I didn’t drink and I didn’t do drugs. I thought if you did dope, you were a d- I thought that’s why they call it dope, ’cause you were a dope if you did it. Yeah. So I didn’t do it, and I didn’t drink because I knew I had to always be able to think and make [00:12:00] decisions and… ‘Cause I cheated on my wife every day for 10 years, and I did crime every day for 10 years, and she never knew it till I wrote this book. And I gave her the first book actually. And so- When I got divorced and started smoking pot and doing stuff, hanging out with those people, and I started smoking weed, then the first time I bought an ounce of weed it was 40 bucks. And I’m like, “Okay, how much is how much is more if you buy more? You can buy a half pound for this or you can buy…” So I said then I’ll… Give me a half a pound and I’m gonna sell,” yeah. So I started buying pounds and selling ounces, and man, all of a sudden I’m, now I’m smoking free and I’m making some money. Yeah. And then I started sell- And by the time I ended, even when I was selling cocaine, I was selling 100 pounds of pot a week. I had one guy that would buy 100 pounds of pot from me every week. Yeah. And I’d just take him 100 pounds and he’d just bring my… Every day he’d stop by my house [00:13:00] with sacks of money, and that was, the way I got started in the drug world then. And everything. It was from pot, it was, meth. We called it crank back then, not meth. And then I never did get real addicted to crank, but I got real addicted to cocaine. And of course, I was doing a drug class the other day. I teach a drug class, my wife and I, addictions class at our church. And I said, when I started, I was only gonna sell it and not do it.” And because one guy said I was only gonna do it and never sell it.” And I said, “No, not me. I was gonna sell it and never do it.” But that didn’t last very long. And once you start doing it you’re in there, and, Yeah, really … and then, when I got arrested September 5th of ’82 the guy that I beat up I put 100 stitches in the back of his head with a ball bat, and it was in an active enforcement really. But he turned states. He’s the one, when Kenny… You remember Kenny Weld? I remember the name. Was you still on the force when Kenny got busted in ’83? [00:14:00] Yeah. ’80- Yeah, I would’ve been. Okay. So- I have some vague memory, I don’t remember the, all the details. At the time it was the biggest drug bust, it was the biggest just drug bust in, I know in Kansas City, maybe. They caught him out there in Blue Springs with 29 pounds of cocaine, and we were selling- Yeah … cocaine to the people that were selling cocaine to Kenny. And so the guy that I beat up gave a 20-page, which is like reading a book, 20 typewritten pages. Yeah. 20 typewritten pages, and he named every name involved in the circle that he knew, and that implicated us as being some of the leading cocaine dealers in Kansas City. Yeah. Now, when I go speak in churches and a pastor gets up and says, “Folks, today we’ve got the biggest cocaine dealer that ever lived.” I get up and say, “You know what? I don’t mean to correct your pastor.” But I was implicated as being one of the leading cocaine- I was not the leading cocaine dealer. There was a lot of people bigger than me. But that’s that’s how it all started and [00:15:00] of course my case, I never did… the drugs never came in. The lawyers that I had, because when I got busted it was on a Sunday, and that’s part of my story. I always ask inmates, “How many of you have been arrested on a weekend?” And every hand goes up. Yeah. And I say, and then I say, “What happens when you get arrested on a weekend?” They all yell, “Nothing.” ‘Cause you’re not going anywhere till Monday morning, at the very least. I got arrested 2:00 Sunday afternoon. By that time, Gary, I had three goals. When I was about 30, I got nicknamed by one of the key mafia figures Crazy Bill, ’cause I did some crazy things. Like I ran through a bar. You know where the old Club Royal was on Main? Oh yeah. There was a bar right ac- I’ve drunk there many times. Okay. There was a bar across the street that I had a girlfriend working in, and we got in a fight, and I was gonna cut the bar in half with a chainsaw. And I had my buddy drop me at the back parking lot. I fired the chainsaw up, I opened the door, and when the door… When I stepped inside, the door [00:16:00] closed with the closer, and the dar- the bar was totally dark. It was not a bar where you could even buy a bag of potato chips. It was strictly alcohol. And when you get- Yeah … in a bar like that, they’re dark. And that door shut, and I thought, “I’m gonna bend over and start cutting this bar, and somebody just shoot me in the back.” So I just wa- I just walked through the bar with the chainsaw running and went out the front door, and Kenny picked me up in the front, and off we went. And so because of that, I got nicknamed Crazy Bill. Yeah. By 30 years old, I had three goals: money, power, and influence. Now, I told you as we were selling a lot of cocaine. So I stayed in $500 a night hotels. I ride in limousines. I bought $20,000 worth of cocaine for a one-night party. So I had money, and I had enough power to make a phone call and have somebody killed, so I had power. And I had enough influence that when I got arrested Sunday afternoon, now I love telling this to a police officer. I was on a show in Texas with a cop, and we called it the Con and the Cop. [00:17:00] But I love telling this story. I got arrested September 5th. 2:00, 2:00 PM is when they booked us into the jail, and I made a phone call back to Kansas City to somebody who was in politics, and I said, “You know who to call.” And that person called the judge we were selling cocaine to. And I ask this question in prisons, “How many of you know when you’re selling cocaine to a judge, he don’t want you in jail?” And I walked out of that jail, Gary, at 1:30 Monday morning. Wow. I got arrest- less than 12 hours after I got arrested on a weekend. And when I walked out of that jail, I said, “Bill Corum, you’ve arrived. You got money.” “You got power, and you got influence.” But the one thing I didn’t have was peace. Yeah. I didn’t have any peace, man. No peace. Yeah. If I was in a restaurant eating and a cop walked in, I’d put money on the table and go out the door. If I saw a UPS driver, I got nervous ’cause he had a uniform on. I didn’t have any peace. And then after I became a Christian, I was reading in the Bible [00:18:00] one day, and it said, “A wicked man runs when no one’s chasing him.” And I went, “Oh my gosh, I left a lot of steak dinners sitting on the table.” And wasn’t anybody chasing you. Nobody. That cop didn’t even know I was in there. He probably didn’t even know who I was. Really? He just come in… He just came in there to eat, and I thought he was after me. So Bill, I always like to go into the, the nuts and bolts of some of these things. And we kinda left one thing hanging, is the Saul Landy story. Now guys, Saul Landy was a big sports bettor. And Saul Landy had a, wasn’t it a metal- Square Deal Junk- Square Deal Junkyard. Square… He had a junkyard. Square Deal. He bought a lot of scrap metal and dealt in scrap metal, but he also would buy most anything from, from- Yeah … thieves, from boosters- Yeah … and burglars and people like that. That’s where Bill met him. But he’s a huge sports gambler, and they thought he might testify against our boss, Nick Civella, because he had been allowed to bet down at The Trap, down with Frankie Tusa, who was the underling [00:19:00] that handled all the sports gambling for Nick Civella. Isn’t that right? Isn’t that the way that went down? Oh, yeah, and Bobby Maroon was running The Trap at the time. And- yeah … so do you remember the guy that, that paid for his murder? Remember that guy, Johnny Franks, Johnny Frank Avella? That’s what they said, yep. Yeah. Yep. He had, he had- That’s what they said. He had some connections. But he got… But Johnny Franks got the order from somebody else. Yeah. Yeah … the bug, the buck stopped with Johnny Franks now, didn’t it? Yes. ‘Cause he hired another guy, who then he hired a Black guy, which was- That’s right … truly unusual. Who then- That’s right … hired a couple of young Black street kids and that was even more unusual, and they killed this Saul Landy and his wife. So they keep a f- And then they sang and then they sang like The Temptations. Exactly, yeah. That, and that’s that w- some claim that Johnny Franks did that just on his own, trying to impress Nick Civella. Some people say that somebody else told him to do it. I don’t… It never, he never talked, so it never came about. Yeah. [00:20:00] Did you ever hear anything about that? I never heard anything except what you just said, that he- Okay … he never talked, and Nick, Nick never got convicted. He never- Yeah … but here’s the thing that, what you said. The guys that they hired to do it, because back in those days as y- you’d go to… i’d go to the electric chair before somebody, before I’d tell on somebody. Yeah. I’m not gonna tell on anybody. Go ahead and put me in the gas chamber, I’m not telling on nobody. But those guys would, they’d sing like The Temptations. They weren’t gonna, they- Yeah … they wouldn’t- Those street kids If they offered them a day in jail, they wouldn’t take it. If you’ll tell us, we won’t, we’re only gonna put you in jail for a week if you’ll tell. Yeah. They wouldn’t tell. So how did that work with you and Saul Landy? You weren’t a sports bettor you didn’t have anything to do with that. You were a thief. Yeah, and I don’t know- And- I honestly, you know what? Gary, I don’t remember who even told me to go to Saul with stolen merchandise, ’cause I was hitting a lot of construction jobs back then. [00:21:00] Ah. I worked construction, and I was in the union, and I was stealing off these jobs all the time. Big- Ah, yeah … big amounts of stuff. Like they’d start a brand-new job, and they’d have all brand-new tools, and I’d go over there and take everything they had. And then I’d take it all to Saul. And matter of fact, one time I did a job over in, it was a eight-story high-rise over in Kansas City, Kansas, down around Argentine, in the Argentine area. And I was on the job, I was working on the job, and we just started. And we had all this trailer, a whole trailer load of tools. And I went over and got all the tools, and the last thing I took out was the cutting torch. I cut the lock off the door, ’cause I had a key to get in. And so when I got to work the next morning, I had everything in my truck. I had a tonneau cover over my truck and had all these tools in the back of my truck, and parked in the parking lot. I got there and I called Johnny Myers, who was running the job, and Johnny’s been dead for years. I said, “Hey, Johnny, somebody hit our job last night.” He’s “What?” I said, “Yeah, they cut the lock off. They got everything.” [00:22:00] And he said call the police and I’ll be out there in just a few minutes.” And so the cops come, couple detectives and he was telling what they, what was going on. I’m standing there listening to the whole thing. And there was a generator, a big generator, and I was real strong back then, Gary. I was 6’3″ and weighed 275 and I carried this generator down the steps and this… and Johnny said, or the cop said that, how much that generator weigh?” And he told him, and he said it had to be at least two guys, if not three. But no, no one guy could carry that down them steps.” And Johnny turned around and he said, “Except Superman,” ’cause that’s what they called me on the job. And they laughed, and he laughed, and I laughed. Yeah. And then that night after I got off work, I took it all down to Square Deal and sold it all to Saul. Yeah. Interesting. So- All right. Thanks so much … and I did that stuff all, yeah, I did that stuff all the time. But I honestly do not remember who introduced me to Saul Landy. Yeah. But I know that for years and years we were buddies. And when I first met him, I used a, I had an alias that I always went by. I had two a- two aliases. One of them was a guy I [00:23:00] was in prison with that was from East St. Louis, and I knew everything about him, ’cause we were real good friends. I knew his middle name, I knew his mom and dad’s name. I knew everything about him, so I’d use his name. So if anybody ever asked me a question, I knew. The other guy was a cousin of mine that I hadn’t seen for y- I used his name, ’cause I knew everything about him. So what, the, when I first met my wife, we went to a dance one night. We weren’t married yet, and we were walking up the steps, and this guy walking down said, “Hey, Jim. How you doing, Jim?” And I said, “Good.” We got in, sat down. My wife looked at me and she said, “I thought your name was Bill.” I s- said, “It is. It is Bill.” I said, “He probably just had me mixed up with somebody else.” ‘Cause there was a lot of people in the inner circles, yeah. So when I met Saul Andy, something inside of me told me to… Because I met Saul, and I told him my name was Jim Gardner. Yeah. And he’s we did a couple deals, and then something inside of me told me to b- be honest with Saul. And so I sat him down one day, I said, “I wanna tell you something. I use that name as an alias. My [00:24:00] real name is Bill Corum,” and da. And I was so glad I did, because later I would be in the River Key in a restaurant or a bar with Saul, and some of the guys were in there, and I thought if I’d have used the… If he’d introduced me as Jim Gardner- Yeah … and then later they find out who I am, I might not be here. Yeah. You know what I mean? You might- So I- They might think you’re undercover cop or a- Exactly. Exactly. So I just- Informant or something, yeah … it, a- and that, I think that’s in my book. I told that story because I just, I felt like being upfront with him, and I, because I trusted him, yeah. I actually, in, in the book I think I said if Nick Civella trusted him, I thought I could trust him. Yeah. But a- apparently, apparently- Bet he didn’t trust him all that much … no. Yeah. Because right there, out there on Pennsylvania, or let’s see, where’d they… They lived right off 75th, right behind the what was that restaurant on 75th? The Italian place? Yeah … I starts with a G, I think. Yeah, I know. Just north of Ward Parkway Shopping Center. Yeah. Yeah. I know the neighborhood, yeah. Oh, Cat- was it Cat? [00:25:00] No. C- it doesn’t matter. But he lived right down that str- he lived on Washington. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. About 77th or 8th and Washington, in Washington, yeah. I remember that. Yeah. But that’s how I met Saul. And what, and guys, what those guys did that night, they tried to make it look like a home invasion robbery, but ended up killing him and his w- and I think they raped his wife too. But, They didn’t kill her. They left her alive they, they left her alive. But- Yeah … they really m- tried to make it look like a home invasion robbery, not a hit, which was, at least they were that smart. They just weren’t- Yeah … couldn’t keep their mouth shut, and they couldn’t, weren’t smart enough to not tell their friends, so they got caught. Good, good thing there wasn’t no Facebook back then, Gary. Yeah, it’s crazy. It’s crazy. Crazy world you live in, so- these kids- Bill … yeah. What happened? What happened? You had all this going. You had money, power, influence. Yeah, I- You caught a cocaine case. Now the thing about that cocaine case, that you said, I thought you said Wells. It’s Kenny Weld, isn’t it? The race car driver? W-E-L-D. Kenny Weld. W-E-L-D. Yeah. He was a race [00:26:00] car driver at that time. I, I- Kinda well-known, and he had a whole set of… He had a big company that sold wheels … Weld Wheels … fancy wheels. He was really doing well, and then he got involved with a b- huge, big cocaine thing. I didn’t know, remember you were part of that, but I remember that. A multi-million dollar- Yeah … wheel business. Yeah. I still am a big… I was a dirt track guy. I grew up on dirt. Yeah. I love dirt. I actually took his brother, Greg, who actually owned the company, I took Greg to his first… the first race that Greg ever raced in, I drove him to the races. And then Kenny and I and Greg, and they won the Knoxville Nationals. Greg raced in the Indianapolis 500 four times. Yeah. They were a big name in the country, the Welds. And making millions of dollars, Gary. Even back then, they were making millions of dollars. Yeah. And then Kenny got caught up in the cocaine and started messing with it, and next thing you know… he was making a lot of money in the cocaine too, but- Yeah … he got caught with 29 pounds, which was a large amount. But that statement that guy [00:27:00] made on me, ’cause I always felt guilty because Kenny got busted because the statement that he made, he named Kenny Weld in that statement, and it wasn’t long after that they arrested Kenny. But I’m sure they were already watching him, for sure. But then I, and I don’t know, Kenny got eight year, Kenny got 25 years. He went to Sandstone first up in Minnesota. Yeah. And he only did 52 months, so I’m not sure, because back then a third would’ve been eight, eight and a half years or something, right? Yeah. And he only did 52 months, so I don’t know how that, maybe it was money or whatever. I don’t know. Yeah. But he turned his life around in prison, but then what’s the sad deal, when I turned my life around, I tried to get in touch with Kenny Weld, and he wouldn’t talk to me. He- Yeah … he was avoid- I think he was afraid that I was gonna come after him because the guy I beat up was the guy that was… We were all involved in the cocaine world together. Joker John, I don’t know if you knew who Joker John Agrusa was. I [00:28:00] don’t remember that n- I don’t remember that name now. Was he- They had a bar out on, they had a bar on, out on 23rd Street. No, I don’t, I don’t- Joker John’s. John, his last name was Agrusa. He had a brother- Agrusa, yeah … named Nick Agrus. New- Nick Agrusa’s brother. Yeah, I co- do kinda remember that. He went down- Yeah … with that whole thing. See, I was- That was ’83. I was I was off into something else during those years. Okay. No- That was early in the coke, crack cocaine thing … no, John, w- after I beat up Pink Mike, John Agrusa left town. He moved to Arizona, ’cause he was scared of me. A l- a lot of people- ’cause I was crazy. I did some crazy things, and people were scared. And so when I got arrested on that deal, he left town. He went to Arizona. And then Kenny got busted, Kenny Weld. And the, some of the people in that… My dad read that 20-page statement, and my dad said… And my dad was an old guy. He was born in 1909, but he read that statement, and he said, “This guy’s worth, life ain’t worth a nickel, is it?” And I [00:29:00] said, “No.” ‘Cause the guy that wrote the statement. Then I got arrest- you knew Jim Smart was a judge? Yeah, I remember the name. I didn’t know him. Okay. Jim… back then, Jim was a lawyer, and then later became appellate court judge. Yeah. And he’s retired now, but a real good friend of mine. So when I, that happened, I got… My case ended in May of ’84. Started September 5th of ’82, and ended in May of ’84. And in June of ’85, 13 months later, I got sued by the guy I beat up. Me and the other couple guy. One of the guys that was with me is dead, Charlie Elmer. I don’t know if you ever heard that name, but he was a- No, don’t know that name … cocaine dealer. But anyway I was just gonna forget about it, and I showed that to my dad, that indict- or not indictment, the notice that I need to appear in court. Statement. Yeah. Yeah, and my dad s- no, not the statement, when he sued me. [00:30:00] Oh, the oh, okay. Then they filed charges. Yeah, the counter-suit. And I showed it to my dad one day and I wasn’t even gonna go. I said, “Oh, God will take care of it.” And my dad read it, and he’s “Bill, you gotta get a lawyer.” Yeah. You’re being charged, and so I went and got a lawyer, and I got Jim Smart. And and Jim tried to go and do a deposition on that guy, on Pink Mike. Could never find him. Ah. And I di- I don’t know, I honestly don’t know. I know I didn’t have nothing to do with… But nobody’s ever been able to find him. But I’m suspecting, ’cause my dad said when he read that 20 pa- he said his life isn’t worth a nickel. Because he named judge in there, a judge in there. He named Kenny Weld in there. He named a lot of other big-name guys, and he’s disappeared, so nobody know. I haven’t seen him since the day in court in 1982. So who knows where he’s at. Yeah. If he’s around. I don’t know. But- Interesting. What did you finally cop? Did you have a full trial, or did you go ahead and cop a plea in the end? That’s interesting you’d [00:31:00] ask because when we first, when we got out of jail at 1:30 Monday morning, the 3rd of the 6th of September, he wal- the lawyer came and walked us out with, we… we had left, we were staying in the Embassy Suites downtown. You know where that was at? Oh, yeah. It was 500 bucks a night, and we had left two s- two s- brief- briefcases there with one had cocaine in it uncut, and the other one had about $60,000 in it. And so we went down. We actually called… he’s dead now, so I can tell you who it was. Jerry Schanzer that owned Napoleon Bakery. And Jerry was a big… i’m surprised that you didn’t, you talk about bookmakers. Jerry was a big bookmaker. Yeah. Exactly. And Schanzer- I remember him, yeah … Schanzer owned Mother’s down on 18th and Baltimore. Not Mother’s. Granny’s. Granny’s, yeah. He owned Granny’s at 18th and Baltimore. Yeah, a lot of mob guys used- And then he- … to go down there and eat. Oh, every time I went in there I saw [00:32:00] somebody. Yeah. And then later he opened up one over in Mission shopping center there on Mission Road. And then they then they ended up opening up Napoleon, him and his brother Larry. And then they’re both dead now. But we, this is how much we trusted Jerry. We told Jerry, “Go…” We called Jerry from the jail and said, “Go down to the Embassy and get our, get a briefcase.” And Jerry went down and he drove halfway to Warrensburg and ha- something told him to open it- Oh, wow … and he opened the one, he opened the one that had the cocaine in it. Oh, shit. And he called us and said, “I got the wrong briefcase.” And it… No, he said, “I can’t come and get you with this.” And so he went back to the Embassy and got the right one. Came down, and we made bond that night. Then the next morning was… Okay, that was we got busted on Sunday the 5th. Monday we got out. The lawyer [00:33:00] said, Mike, I don’t know if you ever knew Mike and what was his dad’s name? The Fi- it was Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald was the name of the firm in, down in Warrensburg. Warensburg, yeah. I don’t know them. Yeah. And Mike and Charlie Fitzgerald. So ’cause I called People’s Office and said, “Hey, this happened.” And they said, “Stick with those guys. Those guys are the best in the county. They know the county. They know the prosecutor, the judges and everything. Stick with them.” So we went in. He told us, “Don’t come in tomorrow morning,” ’cause it was 1:30 in the morning Monday morning. He said, “Come and see me Wednesday.” Yeah. And so we went… no, he said, “Come and see me Tuesday,” ’cause that was 1:30 in the morning. And we walked in there that morning and he said, “Come and see me tomorrow morning, Tuesday morning.” And bring me $10,000 apiece. And I wish I had a video of it, because it can be on America’s Funniest Home Videos. I walked into his office with a white bank bag and dumped out $30,000 on his desk in cash, and he opened [00:34:00] his drawer like this and scooped it into the drawer. And I said, “Mike, there’s a lot more where that came from.” He said, “Bill, I can’t. It’s… I gotta do everything legitimately.” Yeah. And I said, “Okay.” So the first meeting, his dad was in there and he was in there, and the three of us, and he said, “Guys, Dad and I have talked, and you guys might wanna think about getting separate attorneys.” And I said, “For what?” He said, “Because if one of you take a plea.” Yeah. I almost jumped over the desk. I said, “There’ll be no plea. There will be no plea. We’re not guilty. We’re not gonna admit we’re guilty. They can send us to the electric chair. We didn’t do it.” Now, Gary, they took us out of the house at 2:00 on Sunday afternoon in broad daylight. First, they s- we sent the guy out the back. He was totally naked when we got there. He was laying in bed. He’d been doing Dilaudids and Quaaludes all night, and he was [00:35:00] blood from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet. His whole back was red. We walked him out the door in- totally naked in front of the whole world and told him, “Go out there and tell them there’s nobody else in the house.” We were so jacked up. And here’s the thing, I have to tell you this. All those years that I got away with stuff is because I was smart, and now I’m snow blind. There was a song years ago by Styx called Snow Blind- Yeah … and it’s about cocaine. It’s about… And I’d been up for 86 hours when we went down to Holden. I had not- Okay … closed my eyes for 86 hours, so I was in m- I wasn’t in my right mind. Anyway, that was… So when we we said, “No plea bargain. There’ll be no plea bargains.” And for seven months… No, I’m sorry, for four months. That was October, November, December, January, February, March, April. No, seven months. For seven months. For seven months [00:36:00] we went to court multiple times. The whole police department, I don’t know if we can- I guess we’ll say it, because it’s done. It’s history. But I had a, I had two grocery sacks, the old brown grocery sacks on the couch that I’d inventoried. I had $62,000 in cash. I had… Because it was in envelopes, and I- they were $10,000. I was throwing them in there. 62,000 in cash, about four pounds of pot, three gallon Ziploc bags full of precious jewels. Er emeralds, rubies, and stuff like that. Some hash- a 12-gauge shotgun. I think that was all. Maybe maybe it… Whatever. When they, when… The first time we ever went to court and my partner had, the one that’s dead, Charlie, he had a leather Gucci bag that we always had with us, and it had four or five grams of cocaine in it. He took his diamond rings off, put them in there. His watch, he had a Rolex [00:37:00] watch he put in there, and about 3,000 in cash. That was in the car. That was never mentioned in court. No guns were ever mentioned in court. No guns were ever mentioned in court. I had a brand new, I had a brand new fif- not- model 59 nine millimeter. That was never mentioned in court. That 12-gauge shotgun was never mentioned in court. They said that they found a couple envelopes of cash, and they found a gram. Now, there was about, I think there was about probably a half a, maybe eight, eight grams or no more than that. It was ounces. Four or five ounces of cocaine. Oh, yeah. They said they found one, they said they found one gram of a, approximately one gram of a substance believed to be cocaine. Yeah. And my lawyer said… And they said they’d send it to Jeff City for analysis. And my lawyer said, “And what were the analysis of that?” They said they haven’t come [00:38:00] back yet. This is two months after they arrested us. They did- And they found approximately one gram, and there was ounces of cocaine in there. They found a couple envelopes with approximately $2,000 in cash. There was $62,000. The car I was driving, so when I got arrested, I had the keys in my pocket. So when they booked us into jail, when we walked out at 1:30 Monday morning, they gave us back our property. I had the keys in my pocket. So the car’s… Now, this is a brand new ’80, this was a ’82. This was an ’81 Trans Am. The car’s in Holden. The police chi- And they said they were gonna confiscate the car because it had Kansas tags on it, that they wanted to go through the car da. The police chief changed the ignition and was driving that car for his personal car. It cost my buddy, because it was a friend of mine, T- Ronnie M- Ron McGee, it was his car. It cost him $10,000 and an attorney to get his car back from them. So bottom line, every time we [00:39:00] went to court, several ti- my lawyer would say, “I’d like to call Officer Gary Jenkins up.” Gary Jenkins is not on the force anymore. He moved to Arizona.” “I’d like to call so-and-so up next time we go in.” He’s not here anymore. He moved to wherever.” So all the money and all the guns and all the drugs, they split it up and no, nobody ever… So the thing was so dirty. So what happens is we’d been going to court for that seven months, And then I become a Christian. I walk into his offi- and we’re adamant, we’re not plea bargain. We don’t want separate lawyers. We want you two guys to represent us. We’re gonna beat this thing. And, oh, and I told, because when that guy gave that 20-page statement after he got out of the hospital, this was a month later or something, he called us all in. We went in. He sh- hands each one of us 20-page statement. He said, “Guys, let me tell you something. I’m defending you on an assault with intent to kill charge. I’m gonna get that reduced, but if you get busted [00:40:00] dealing cocaine, you’ve got to stop dealing cocaine, ’cause if you get busted dealing cocaine while I’m on this case, it’s gonna complicate the case.” Yeah. “You gotta stop.” And I said, “Mike, I don’t tell you how to practice law, and you don’t tell me how to make money. You just keep doing what you do, and I’ll keep doing what I do, and I’ll keep bringing you money.” And he never said another word. Three or four months later, I become a Christian. I walk into his office by myself. And when I walked in the door, he said, “What happened to you?” If you look at that book on the picture of my, on the back of my book, that was four months before I became a Christian. And the Bible says the eyes are the windows of the soul. I had a very dark soul. Yeah, I can see. I had a very dark soul. Yeah. And so he goes, “What happened to you?” And I said, “What do you mean?” And he said, “You don’t look the same.” And I said, “I’m not the same.” And I told him what happened. And he said… And I said, “We’ve got a problem.” And he goes, “What’s our [00:41:00] problem, Bill?” I said, “I can’t lie anymore.” He said, “You’re right. We’ve got a problem.” ‘Cause we’d been lying for seven months. We told… He knew the story. He said, “I just need to know this. I’ll defend you guys. I’ll beat this case, but I need to know.” So we told… And at this point now, seven months later, he said, “There’s no way out of this thing. You guys are going to prison.” He said, “I can help you figure out a way to get to the good prison, but you’re going to prison.” So when I go in that day and he goes, “What’s wrong? What what happened?” And I told him, and he said, “You don’t look the same.” I said, “I’m not the same.” I said, “We got a problem.” He goes, “What?” I said, “We can’t lie. I can’t lie anymore.” And he said I’ve got an idea.” And I said, “What?” He said if I enter a plea bargain, I think we can do this.” And he said, “You guys won’t go to prison.” And he said, “Talk to Mike and Charlie and see what they say.” So I called them. We went down, met with him. And this time they looked at me and said, “What do you think we should do, Bill?” [00:42:00] I said, “I think we ought to take the plea bargain.” We got five years’ probation and a $5,000 fine. Now, the crazy thing- that was on the assault. Yeah, they- That was on the assault. But you still got a cocaine case out here pending with the feds. No. No. No. That, if, that, that- 20-page statement that implicated me was never, he never got it out of his office. It never went out of Fitzgerald’s office. So it, he didn’t tell it to… He told it to whoever he told it to, but to the police, and the police were all crooks anyway . Yeah. So I don’t know who he told. I just know that our lawyer said if this cocaine thing comes up, it’s gonna complicate our case. It never came up. Oh. And so maybe it was the mercy of God, I don’t know. Because it was a 20-page typewritten statement naming judges, Kenny Weld, all these guys, and all these people started falling after that. And so anyway, we ended up getting a $5,000 fine and five-year probation. Now, the crazy thing, if you read my book, Charlie and Mike both went, they got called and they [00:43:00] went and reported. I never got a call. 13 months later, I had a nephew getting married up in in Wisconsin, and I wanted to go to that wedding, and I knew I couldn’t leave without permission, but I didn’t have anybody to ask permission from. And when that guy sued me, G- Gary, when that guy sued me and I went and got the lawyer that I told you I went and got, I said, “By the way…” He said, “I wanna take this case.” I said, “Great.” I said, “By the way, I got arrested September 5th of ’82. The case ended in May. I was placed on five-year probation, a $5,000 fine. I’ve never heard from anybody. What do you think I sh- should do?” He said, “Bill, you need to write a letter.” And I put the letter in the book. I wrote a letter and said da. I’d like to be supervised. Please contact me.” 13 months, and they, within two days they were knocking on my front door. And that’s when I started reporting. And Kay King was my first pr- [00:44:00] probation officer, and she asked me all the whole story, and I had sat with her for two hours and told her the whole story. She asked me how many drugs I did, what I did. I said, “I’ve done everything there is, from, marijuana to heroin to… I’ve done it all.” And I did massive amounts of everything. And I was drinking two quarts of whiskey at the end every day. And people are like, “You can’t drink two quarts of whiskey.” I said, “You never did cocaine, did you?” ‘Cause when you’re doing, ’cause when you’re doing cocaine, you can’t get drunk. And so anyway that… And I asked her when I left her office, I said, “So does my probation start now, or does it start back then?” She said, “No, Bill, it starts today.” Oh, really? I said- Wow. I said, “For 13 months I’ve been going to churches and schools and telling people how bad drugs are and how bad alcohol is and how bad this is.” And I said, “I’ve not had a traffic ticket. I haven’t had a traffic ticket.” The only ticket I’ve got in the last 43 years, I had a bad car wreck where I got T-boned at 70 miles an [00:45:00] hour. I pulled out in front of a guy. It was my fault. And that’s the only ticket I’ve had in 43 years. I haven’t been stopped by the police. And she said, “I’m sorry, Bill, it starts today.” Guess what? I did the whole five year. I went from then, I got off in ’89 or something, I th- it was almost five years I did. My partners, they only did a year and a half, and they let them off. And they were still dealing cocaine. They were still dealing. They were still dealing. Matter of fact, one of them’s brother his mama died, and the funeral was at Passantino Brothers over there on the avenue. And I went to the funeral, and I was sorry, and we were hugging. And me and him sat down and were talking, and he had a little leather Gucci bag. And he said, “Hey, I’m go- now listen.” He said, “I’m going to the bathroom. You wanna go with me?” I said, “No, brother.” Yeah. And I got up and left. He wanted to go do some cocaine. Damn. And that was years after, he’d been… Anyway. Yeah. But I’m glad I had to do the whole five years because I got to speak [00:46:00] in some… She called me once and said, “I got a friend that teaches a criminal justice class at a college, and they’ve had detectives and they’ve had police officers, they’ve had lawyers, they’ve had parole officers, but they’ve never had a criminal. Would you come and speak?” And I said, “I’d be glad to.” And I f- and then I called the professor and I said, “I’ve been asked to come.” And he said, “Yeah, we’re looking forward.” And I said I have to tell you one thing. I cannot come in there and speak and not tell your class that my life was radically changed April 15th, 1983, when I came into encounter with God through his son, Jesus Christ.” He said, “That’s okay.” And I went and told them, so I was glad I got to stay on parole for five years. So- So Bill what are you doing now? I know you- I’m just- you’ve got a prison ministry. Do you speak- Yeah … at prisons and, and- That’s all I do, Garrett. 40 years just- How does one get into that? Do you have an agent that booked you into different prisons- No … or how does that work? No. No. I started going in 1986 with [00:47:00] a guy named Bill Glass, who was a NFL player. Played for the Cleveland Browns. He was an All-Pro. Actually started… He got, he retired from football in 1968, so that’s how old he was. Started the ministry in ’72, and was the biggest prison ministry in the nation, had 30,000 volunteers. And I started going in as just a volunteer, and then he asked me to be a platform speaker, and I was a platform speaker for him for 30 years. And went to, I’ve been in over 500 different prisons in my life, and I do prisons almost every day, a prison or a jail almost every day. We’re getting ready to do, this will be our 17th car show up at Crossroads in Cameron, and this will be the biggest car show ever in a US prison, in history. Last year was the biggest. We had 80 cars last year, but this year we’re planning on- by car sh- car show, what do you mean? Like guys bring their classic cars up and…? And drive them in on the prison yard. Oh, wow. And the inmates get to come out, walk around and look at them. And last year we had 80 cars and bikes. [00:48:00] This year we’re gonna have 250 motorcycles and cars. Wow. And we’re gonna feed 2,000 people. We’ve got… W- we’re gonna have 2,000 meals that day for the inmates and the staff, all the staff. So that’s what I’ve been doing for all these years, and will keep doing it as long as I can, wow. But as far as… I was gonna ask you about old Joey Rags. I knew Joe Ragusa. Did you ever deal with that guy? Did you? Not directly. I followed him a lot and almo- we almost caught him too, in a hit one time. And then they saw us and they had boogied on out. But I know one story- That would have been a- … about him. He was, He needed to go… I heard this later. He needed to go to a meeting downtown, down to City Market with the other mob guys, ’cause, he was right next to Charlie Martina, and he went on several hits with these guys during the Spiro-Savella war. So he’s out at the plumbing place where he was working, so he… Guy comes in- Where was he at? Was he at St. John Plumbing? I don’t remember the name of it. It was over there by N- Jackson, Ninth and Jackson, or Truman and Jackson, somewhere over there [00:49:00] on the east side. I can’t remember the name of it now. And so he need… said… told this guy, he said, “Hey,” he said, “I need to go down to the market.” He said, “Can you give me a ride down there?” And the guy said you got your car here.” He said no, you give me a ride.” So he gets in, lays down in the back seat. So the guy takes him down there, then he gets out. No, he was a real deal. Boy, that old market was something, wasn’t it? Yeah. That old City Market. Oh, man. Yeah, heard mob guys out there. Yeah they had a pretty big… Hey, what about, I was gonna ask you about a couple guys that were big heroin kingpins, Sam Haley and Aaron Gant. Was you involved when they were really big in Kansas City? Y- I was a young policeman, ’72, ’73, ’74, and Aaron Gant and Sam Haley were like the big ducks. And they had this war going between the two little heroin organizations. And Gant was, he was in with some guys, and Aaron Gant called him Junebug. He was in with the God, there was a whole family, the Denmans. He was in with [00:50:00] these guys. And so they… And Sam Haley was… I never did understand the difference, but they had two different organizations and they hated each other is my understanding. Oh, they did. Yeah. How about Ramseys? Did you know who the Ramseys were? I don’t see. The Ramsey brothers? I remember that na- Huh? I know that name. I think one of those crime families that, that stole- they were- … money in the neighborhood and- They were the- … everyone else … they were killers, all of them. Yeah. I think there was eight boys, and at one time seven or eight of them were in Missouri for murder. And I was seeing… I was in Potosi. And Rambo, R- Roy Rambo Ramsey they called him, and he’s the one that they got a… Remember when the la- what’d they call them that you put on the roof of your car? Oh, Landau top. Landau top, yeah. Yeah. That wasn’t the word I’m looking for, though. Whatever it was, th- you could have them tops put on. Yeah. They got one put on in a poster shop over on Prospect. Oh. And [00:51:00] when they called and said, “Your car’s ready,” they went up there and killed everybody in the shop and took their car and left. And then they went out to Belton or Grandview, and there was an old couple that had a bunch of old coins and stuff, and they knew one of the people. They knew one of the brothers, and I think it was Roy. And they went out there and knocked on the door, and of course, they let them in. They told their girlfriend to stay in the car, and they went in and they shot them They were 65 and 66 years old. The little old lady was 65 and the old man was… They shot each one of them three times, and just for a few dollars worth of coins, man. They were murderers. They were killers. But I was up in Potosi and Roy asked me, he said, “Would you go see my dad?” And I was… I said… He said, “He’s in a nursing home.” And Gary, his father, was a hardworking man, had never committed a crime in his life, and he was in this nursing home. And I went and saw him and prayed for him and stuff. But here are these… He [00:52:00] had these eight sons that were murderers. They were killers. And the old man was in a nursing home dying. And, Roy asked me if I’d go see him, so I went and saw him, prayed for him. But yeah, they were something else, them guys. Interesting. You you mentioned Sam Haley. There w- we had, here just in your area, was a guy named Michael Cantu, who used to be a fire captain. Had… Was a, a big time cocaine dealer. During those years, he got into- Yeah … cocaine. He and his brother Joe and Joe Maggio, and they had a cocaine deal going, and he got back out. He had a body shop over on Independence Avenue, and two Black guys came in and executed him, basically. Left the employee there. There wasn’t anything to steal, and executed him. And the drawings, one of them we… There was a lot of speculation it looked like Sam Haley. So I think he was- Might’ve been … I think he was supplying Black dealers with cocaine I believe. I saw him meeting with some guys once that that- Yeah, they were- … I didn’t know who they were, but they all looked like Black cocaine dealers they were killers, all them guys. Haley and Gant and those guys. Did you, I asked you about, Yeah, heavy idea. [00:53:00] I- here’s a question. I just got an inquiry from one of Gant’s relatives of… They were wanting to know more about Aaron Gant getting killed. See, he got out of the joint. He went to Missouri State Penitentiary, I think it was for drugs. Yep. And he went to a club that night, and somebody walked in, was walked in, shot him, and walked out right away. Another Black dude. So this relative was asking me if I knew any more about it. I didn’t know any more about it. You remember that deal at all? I don’t remember that. Okay. I di- I actually, I was thinking that Aaron Gant and Sam Haley had been dead for years, but, that was- this was years ago. This was quite a while ago. Okay. This was probably- Yeah, I thought he might have died in prison or something, ’cause I knew they both had a lot of time. They did a lot of- Yeah … time in Missouri. Yeah. Yeah, they did. So did you- But they were kingpins. Their names are really well-known, feared names on the East Side in Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Really feared names. Absolutely. Did you ever go around Vic Fontana’s place when he opened up Fanny’s? Oh, yeah. I went in and out of several. He had several different places. He had Fanny’s. [00:54:00] He had one down on the Southwest Trafficway a little bit after your time, I think oh, God, I forgot the name of it. But yeah, the, all the mob guys went into his joints. He was mob friendly. Yeah. I was really s- I met him when he had when he had the one up on Main next to Butch’s, next to Mother’s. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had that place yeah what was, Walter Midy. Must have been Walter Midy’s. Walter Midy. Yeah, that’s where I met Vic. And then I actually plumbed that Fanny’s when he opened up Fa

On this New Year's Eve 2025, we take a trip back to visit our origin story, chat about all the things, and look forward to 2026! But, FIRST thank you to all our listeners, guests, friends, clients and family for your support of The Parlour with Lori and Lisa as we celebrate this 100th episode! Thank you, Zoom for making it easy to connect and record our episodes, and Buzzsprout for their user friendly platform for us to post our shows. Books we've read for "The Library: Rebecca Skloot's, "The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks"Irene Sardanis', "Out of the Bronx" and "Connections"Scot Loyd's, "The God I Was Given: Looking for Faith After Losing My Religion". And many more! Guests We've Had on the Pod: Check out their episodes, websites and social links!Jim Gardner: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/12073864-welcome-to-the-parlour-w-a-special-guest-and-morehttps://jimgardnerconstruction.com/Nathan Warner: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/12351951-shroom-talk-with-nathan-warnerhttps://fresnomycology.org/Mark Feathers: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/12366255-have-we-got-a-honey-for-youCasey Gardner: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/12397396-an-american-student-loan-story-part-1https://www.patreon.com/TheSickBitchesPodcastLourin Hubbard: https://www.facebook.com/LourinHubbard/Lourin and Brent joined us here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/12677248-the-political-parlour-with-lourin-hubbard-and-brent-hennrichBrent Hennrich: https://brenthennrich.com/Irene Sardanis: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/12721501-welcome-to-our-first-episode-of-the-library-w-irene-sardanis-phdhttps://www.irenesardanis.com/Jessica Anderson: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/13767475-into-the-homestretch-with-jessica-anderson-for-virginiahttps://jess4va.com/Gina Thompson McKuen: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/14118360-welcome-to-the-parlour-ginahttps://www.mahoganysnowcreations.com/shopLorrel Plimier: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/14301646-welcome-lorrel-plimierhttps://www.lorrelplimier.com/Joanna Basile: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/14346110-welcome-to-the-bubble-broadcast-joanna-basilehttps://www.unrehearsedwithjb.com/Ruby Jane Castle: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/14373763-welcome-to-the-parlour-ruby-jane-castleThe Hood Dentist: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/14541125-welcome-to-the-parlour-the-hood-dentisthttps://www.tiktok.com/@sparkdawgmusic?lang=enScot Loyd: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/17397070-welcome-to-the-parlour-scot-loydhttps://www.amazon.com/God-Was-Given-Looking-Religion/dp/1964252520Lindsey Ian Cole: https://www.buzzsprout.com/admin/2063865/episodes/17624794-welcome-to-the-parlour-lindsey-ian-colehttps://www.tiktok.com/@lindseyiancolehttps://soundcloud.com/lindseycoleand so many more to come! Catch some of our episodes, including this one, on our Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@RooseveltWarfieldMediaSupport the showThe Parlour with Lori and Lisa comes to you with our takes on current events, politics, human interest stories, all things close to our hearts, and so much MORE! Thank you for following our media journey and be sure to look for us as we roll out in all the social platforms. #SlowMedia

On this episode I chatted with the legend Jim Gardner. With more than 14,000 flight hours across legendary helicopters like the Bell 206, 407, 505, and the Airbus A-Star, Jim Gardner has spent 40 years mastering the skies. From live police pursuits to storm tracking and Hollywood film sets, Jim built a career on precision flying, calm under pressure, and an unwavering commitment to truth and safety. He began his aviation journey in Los Angeles in 1985, ultimately becoming the chief pilot for KCAL Channel 9. There, he flew through the heart of breaking news history—covering the O.J. Simpson chase and trial, the L.A. riots, devastating earthquakes, and fast-moving wildfires that tested every skill in the cockpit. In 1996, Jim returned home to Oklahoma, where his legacy took flight once again. He joined KFOR Channel 4 as pilot and airborne reporter, later moving to KWTV Channel 9, where he remained until retiring in 2025. His aerial coverage became an iconic part of Oklahoma broadcasting, earning the trust of viewers and the respect of professionals across the nation. www.pilotjimgardner.com  Huge thank you to our sponsors. The Oklahoma Hall of Fame at the Gaylord-Pickens Museum telling Oklahoma's story through its people since 1927. For more information go to www.oklahomahof.com and for daily updates go to www.instagram.com/oklahomahof The Chickasaw Nation is economically strong, culturally vibrant and full of energetic people dedicated to the preservation of family, community and heritage. www.chickasaw.net Dog House OKC - When it comes to furry four-legged care, our 24/7 supervised cage free play and overnight boarding services make The Dog House OKC in Oklahoma City the best place to be, at least, when they're not in their own backyard. With over 6,000 square feet of combined indoor/outdoor play areas our dog daycare enriches spirit, increases social skills, builds confidence, and offers hours of exercise and stimulation for your dog http://www.thedoghouseokc.com #ThisisOklahoma

Today, Jim Gardner will show us what the Bible teaches about dinosaurs, dragons, and how they fit into the Bible's teachings.

Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 1244, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: Bible Belts 1: In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus says that if someone "smiteth" you here, "offer also the other". the cheek. 2: In this Bible book named for songs of praise, "Thou hast smitten all my enemies upon the cheek bone". Psalms. 3: Par-tay! "Song of" him says, "I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly". Solomon. 4: In Numbers 20, after the Israelites complained, Moses smote this object twice and water came out. the rock. 5: After a big Bible belt that kills his brother, he is marked and heads east of Eden. Cain. Round 2. Category: Avian Poetry 1: In this poem, Lewis Carroll warned us, "Beware the jubjub bird, and shun the frumious bandersnatch". "Jabberwocky". 2: "A wonderful bird is" this, "his bill will hold more than his belican". a pelican. 3: When first seen, this title bird was "perched upon a bust of Pallas just above my chamber door". the raven. 4: "And a good south wind sprung up behind"; it "did follow, and every day, for food or play, came to the mariner's hollo!". the albatross. 5: John Keats called this bird immortal; "Thou wast not born for death". a nightingale. Round 3. Category: Then You Get The Women 1: In 2005 her "Alias" changed to Mrs. Ben Affleck. Jennifer Garner. 2: On her divorce from her "Eyes Wide Shut" co-star, she quipped, "Well, I can wear heels now". Nicole Kidman. 3: This Emmy winner once had a tattoo that read "Property of Tom Arnold". Roseanne Barr. 4: Her voice was Lola, a fish in "Shark Tale", but some wondered if her life was the Pitts in 2005. Angelina Jolie. 5: Marriage to a star made this Kansas-born actress Shirley MacLaine's sister-in-law. Annette Bening. Round 4. Category: Brains 1: His writings include the 1920 publication "Relativity: The Special and General Theory". Albert Einstein. 2: Past winners of this annual event include Bob Verini and Bob Blake. Tournament of Champions on Jeopardy!. 3: "A Gardener Touched with Genius" is Peter Dreyer's book on this American hoticulturist. Luther Burbank. 4: Blaise Pascal is said to have mastered this Greek mathematician's "Elements" by age 12. Euclid. 5: After this coil inventor moved to America, he worked briefly with another genius⁠—Thomas Edison. Nikola Tesla. Round 5. Category: Clues Across America 1: (I'm Jim Gardner from 6ABC.) The Franklin Institute has the only intact Model B made by these 2 men; it was the first plane to carry air freight, live bombs and a U.S. president. Orville and Wilbur Wright. 2: (Hi, I'm Eric Perkins from KARE 11. [He presents from U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, Minnesota.]) In the first sporting event at Minneapolis' U.S. Bank Stadium, Chelsea played AC Milan in this sport. soccer. 3: (Hi, I'm Shannon Hegy, from WPRI 12.) Waterfire is an art installation of more than 80 bonfires that float above the surface of 3 rivers in this capital of Rhode Island. Providence. 4: (I'm Ryan Chiaverini.) (And I'm Val Warner of Windy City Live.) Everyone knows Chicago is the Windy City some say it has to do with the way we brag about out town......But more likely it has to do with the stiff breezes that come off of this lake. Lake Michigan. 5: (Hi, I'm Liz Cho from ABC 7.) Mosaics in Ulysses S. Grant's New York City tomb depict the greatest moments in the general's career including the April 1865 surrender of Robert E. Lee at this Virgi

Legendary Broadcaster Jim Gardner shares his thoughts on the future of local news, cable and the advent of cord cutting. He shares deeply personal insight about his most important story.

Charles Barkley - basketball legend, sportscaster, whose signature is candor and honesty, tv pitchman, father and grandfather - He opens up to Jim Gardner about his spectacular successes, his heartbreaking failures, and views on race, money, politics and his celebrated friends who are friends no more. 

In conversation with Jim Gardner Jake Tapper is the Washington, D.C., anchor and chief Washington correspondent for CNN, where he hosts the weekday program The Lead with Jake Tapper and the Sunday morning show State of the Union. He is the former White House correspondent for ABC News and contributor to Good Morning America, Nightline, and World News with Diane Sawyer. His many honors include an unprecedented three Merriman Smith Awards for presidential coverage. Tapper is the author of The Outpost, the tragic but inspiring true story of a small U.S. military group besieged by the Taliban. Tapper is also the author of The Hellfire Club and The Devil May Dance, political thrillers in which Charlie and Margaret Marder, a husband-and-wife team of unlikely political stars, unravel conspiracies in the halls of power of a bygone Washington, D.C. The third installment in this series, All the Demons Are Here finds Charlie and Margaret navigating some of the wildest and most dangerous events of the 1970s United States. Jim Gardner served for 45 years as the weekday news anchor for Philadelphia's 6ABC Action News. He covered every presidential convention since 1980 and reported from the scene of breaking news around the globe. A member of the Broadcast Pioneers of Philadelphia Hall of Fame, he is the recipient of the John Cardinal Foley Award for Excellence in Communication. Because you love Author Events, please make a donation to keep our podcasts free for everyone. THANK YOU! (recorded 7/11/2023)

In this episode, we're excited to host a dynamic conversation with Jim Gardner, a multifaceted personality who wears the hats of an author, entrepreneur, and renowned mental performance coach. Garnering wisdom from a life of eclectic experiences, Jim now focuses on enhancing the physical and mental prowess of elite athletes and top-tier executives. Discover Jim's incredible journey, from navigating the tumultuous world of the streets, to experiencing an awe-inspiring transformation, catalyzed by a compassionate teacher. We delve deep into the critical moments of his life, understanding the profound impact of spirituality, and his unexpected foray into the corporate sphere. This episode is a goldmine of wisdom about the power of human connections and the importance of future readiness. Garnering insights from Jim's life and work, we explore how to elevate performance, extract potential, and navigate life's challenging terrains. To connect with Jim and benefit from his unique insights, visit his website: warriorperformancecollective.com. For more personal engagement or queries, feel free to drop an email at Jim@JimGardnerLive.com. Also, we highly encourage you to explore the Adaptive Training Foundation at Adaptivetrainingfoundation.org. Discover how this organization is creating ripples of change and find ways to be a part of this transformative journey. And lastly, do not forget to check out Jim's Books for an additional goldmine of wisdom.    Follow Randy Wilson:   Instagram   YouTube   LinkedIn   More Resources:   RandyWilsonOnline.com   Resource Link   Free Book Download

The Jim Gardner podcast: “More To Explore” will be exactly what the title suggests, an opportunity for this celebrated broadcast journalist to explore compelling topics and individuals who have a fast grip on Jim's attention. Many, if not most, podcasts are focused on extraordinarily specific topic areas, in fact, that's the advantage of the podcast platform. Are you looking for a podcast on pre-owned catalytic converters? Don't be surprised if you find more than one! But this podcast is 180 degrees the opposite. Jim feels blessed to have the chance to explore a wide range of topics that interest him: the current combative state of our politics and its threat to our democracy, history, music, especially as written for the Broadway stage, sports and striving for greatness, public health and our desperate need to stay ahead of the next biological calamity, literature, and popular culture.

Missionary Jim Gardner gives an update from their ministry down in Mexico.

In this episode of the Ultimate Job Interview, 6abc anchor Jim Gardner mediates a Q&A between the mayoral candidates where the candidates themselves (and a couple of audience members) ask the questions. 

Saturday, January 14th, 2023Following the sad new of the passing of Lisa Marie Presley, and remembering that life is too short to sit on the sidelines,  we share that we decided to finally soft launch our podcast, The Parlour with Lori and Lisa! We are still practicing, but we've decided to just start putting everything out there and THIS is our official soft launch!Tonight we welcome Jim Gardner of Jim Gardner Construction, zooming in from Cool, CA,  to discuss with us what is going on in, under and around Bay Area homes following an unprecedented storm that passed through for two weeks! He suggested we look in to the Los Angeles floods of the 1950-60s, and how we need to learn to live with these extreme weather events.  Further, he predicts that things may get worse before they get better. ;-D Lori reads a great article you can find here: https://www.wired.com/story/the-key-to-californias-survival-is-hidden-underground/To contact Jim Gardner about your Bay Area home, contact him here: https://jimgardnerconstruction.com/We talk about Kai the Hatchet Wielding Hitchhiker, what is going on with his case, and the Netflix documentary about him: https://www.netflix.com/title/81436777Then, we share about all the different types of shows we'll be doing such as: "Gen-HeX Scary Movie Watch and Review", "Featurettes", "Affordable, Little Luxuries", "The Political Parlour", and so much more! Thank you for joining us on our media journey! Support the showThe Parlour with Lori and Lisa comes to you with our takes on current events, politics, human interest stories, all things close to our hearts, and so much MORE! Thank you for following our media journey and be sure to look for us as we roll out in all the social platforms. #SlowMedia

1:00 - Scott Rutter joins the show to enlighten us on the new threats that our enemies may pose towards us, including China. The amount of combat we have put on our armed service members is just insane. What is the driving reason behind veterans suicide? 1:20 -  The Robert Morris statue was vandalized for being a slave trader, despite being a financier of the Revolutionary War and the U.S. banking system.  1:25 - What are the predictions for top baby names in 2023? 1:35 - Marshalls in downtown Philly will close its doors after this year as the “shoplifting tax” grows. 1:40 - GET THE NAME RIGHT! 1:45 - Neal Zoren joins us for his weekly segment discussing the year in media, Jim Gardner's impact, the best TV and movies of the year, and what's on horizon. Is Peacock worth it?

Neal Zoren joins us for his weekly segment discussing the year in media, Jim Gardner's impact, the best TV and movies of the year, and what's on horizon. Is Peacock worth it?

12:00 - Dom starts off by paying tribute to Pele. He moves to Philly Crime Watch and their unbiased coverage on what goes on in the city. So why is it that somebody is trying to burn down Carpenter's Hall? 12:10 - Who is your best “one named” person? “Karen” is being banned now.  12:15 - What is the link between fentanyl influx and the Tylenol shortage?  12:20 - Fetterman Update! Absolutely no sign of him, shocker. 12:25 - What grade would you give Tom Wolf on his job as governor? 12:35 - Former Levi Strauss executive Jennifer Sey joins the program to discuss her unjust firing for speaking up on issues that need addressing. Did you know she was the 1986 U.S. champion in gymnastics? She advocates for fairness in women's sports, especially against woke ideologies. Name calling is a strategy for those who don't have an argument. 12:50 - They caught the University of Idaho murderer in the Pocono mountains. Now there are increased fights at Disney World and the mouse is not happy. Would you like to see Michael Nutter return as mayor? 1:00 - Scott Rutter joins the show to enlighten us on the new threats that our enemies may pose towards us, including China. The amount of combat we have put on our armed service members is just insane. What is the driving reason behind veterans suicide? 1:20 -  The Robert Morris statue was vandalized for being a slave trader, despite being a financier of the Revolutionary War and the U.S. banking system.  1:25 - What are the predictions for top baby names in 2023? 1:35 - Marshalls in downtown Philly will close its doors after this year as the “shoplifting tax” grows. 1:40 - GET THE NAME RIGHT! 1:45 - Neal Zoren joins us for his weekly segment discussing the year in media, Jim Gardner's impact, the best TV and movies of the year, and what's on horizon. Is Peacock worth it? 2:00 - Michael Harrison joins us to start the final hour regarding the perception of talk radio today. If you didn't have talk radio on the air, what would people talk about? If CBS Sunday Morning can run stories on how dangerous it is, then that means it is still culturally relevant. Michael also takes us through his Top 10 stories and headlines of the year.  2:15 - Will DeSantis run for President? 2:20 - Drag Queen Story Hour! Libraries will reject Kirk Cameron's Christian readings but welcome drag in between the bookcases. Kirk has bounced back however, and business is booming because of it. 2:25 - Give us your conservative film recommendations for the new year so we can host more watch parties! 2:30 - What is the ‘one name' in sports? 2:35 - Is soccer overtaking hockey in terms of popularity? 2:45 - The Lightning Round!  2:50 - This week's winner and New Years Plans

Full Hour | In today's third hour, Dom leads off by telling that the massive Omnibus spending bill has been passed, explaining what exactly this means for the future of our country. Also, Dom asks listeners to dial in with their most memorable personalities that have appeared on Philadelphia local television after the retirement of Jim Gardner. In addition, throughout the hour, Dom takes calls from listeners offering their Festivus grievances, and decides the winner of the week for the Capt'n Chucky Side Topic. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

Kyle, Kevin, and Ant San Filippo start the podcast talking about the most exciting topic in the world: local news. Jim Gardner retires, can 6ABC keep it's stranglehold on the ratings, and why do people choose Channel 6 to work for. Kevin Cooney comes on to talk about the MLB HOF voting, his ballot, and how he'd fix the process before Kevin sends you off with a Jonathan Gannon stat you can fight with your WIP Dad or Uncle at Christmas Eve dinner. Have a great holiday! Crossing Broadcast is livestreamed every Tuesday and Thursday at 12pm on YouTube. Subscribe to the YouTube feed here: https://www.youtube.com/crossingbroadsports Please subscribe to the show ([Apple Podcasts] [Spotify] [Amazon Music] [Google Play] [Stitcher] [iHeartRadio] [RSS]), leave a 5 star review, and follow us on Facebook and Twitter: @CrossingBcast Check out the other shows on the Crossing Broad Podcast Network including: Crossed Up: A Phillies Podcast, Snow the Goalie: A Flyers Podcast, and It's Always Soccer in Philadelphia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this edition of Working The Beat, Kevin and Mike have a grab bag of topics they cover as they get ready for the holiday, discussion the Eagles-Cowboys game, the state of the Big 5, the Mets signing of Carlos Correa and how that impacts the Phillies, the retirement of Jim Gardner and the best Christmas songs.

Kevin Negandhi joins the show and discusses the retirement of Philadelphia News legend Jim Gardner, how he feels about the Eagles this weekend without Jalen Hurts, a look ahead to the College Football Playoff and more

Anthony opens the with his take on whether or not Nick Foles is a legend, reaction to the passing of Steelers great Franco Harris and the Mets have jumped the Celtics on his all-time hate list (0:00-23:20). Anthony opens up the phones and wants to hear your legends and all-time hate list (23:20-43:40). In the Vault today the guys take a listen to the Immaculate Reception in tribute to Franco Harris, throwback Christmas commercials and Eagles highlights from players that wore #21 (43:40-1:07:10). Kevin Negandhi joins the show and discusses the retirement of Philadelphia News legend Jim Gardner, how he feels about the Eagles this weekend without Jalen Hurts, a look ahead to the College Football Playoff and more (1:07:10-1:28:56). Zach Berman of the Athletic joins the show and previews the Eagles Christmas Eve matchup with the Cowboys, gives some insight on the Jalen Hurts injury and when we will see him again, what Gardner Minshew can provide this week and Zach also touches on the passing of Franco Harris (1:28:56-1:45:10). The rest of the show is yours, Anthony takes all of your calls from Franco Harris to legends and your all-time hate list (1:45:10-2:49:41).

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On today's best of Anthony opens the with his take on whether or not Nick Foles is a legend, reaction to the passing of Steelers great Franco Harris and the Mets have jumped the Celtics on his all-time hate list (0:00-23:20). Kevin Negandhi joins the show and discusses the retirement of Philadelphia News legend Jim Gardner, how he feels about the Eagles this weekend without Jalen Hurts, a look ahead to the College Football Playoff and more (23:20-43:58). Zach Berman of the Athletic joins the show and previews the Eagles Christmas Eve matchup with the Cowboys, gives some insight on the Jalen Hurts injury and when we will see him again, what Gardner Minshew can provide this week and Zach also touches on the passing of Franco Harris (23:20-58:43).

We're getting so close to Christmas (!!) so we want to know your unique Christmas Eve traditions. Plus, legendary 6ABC anchor Jim Gardner retires today and Philly is celebrating him in the most Philly way possible -- find out in today's Bee Positive. 

Following a poll voting him out as head of Twitter, Elon Musk tweeted: “I will resign as CEO as soon as I find someone foolish enough to take the job! After that, I will just run the software & servers teams.” Plus, if you're planning to resell your Taylor Swift tickets the IRS says they'll come after you for their share. Fandango has announced the most anticipated movies of 2023 and legendary broadcaster Jim Gardner will anchor his last newscast today at 6pm. 

6ABC news anchor Jim Gardner retires today after his 6:00PM broadcast and fans have planned a tailgate in the parking lot. 

What story does Jim Gardner think was most important in his four decade career?

The Eagles are 11-1 and FAR too many people in this city are way too nervous about this team. Wahhhhh the Cowboys look good! We're scared of Kirk Cousins! Well the Let's Go to the Phones boys are here to SHAME it out of you. This team is a juggernaut and it fears no reprisal. Uncle Coggin and Producer Pat bring you a positivity filled two-man episode, as Co-Host Chris has been relieved of his duties. Good riddance (he'll be back next week). Plus, the Phillies are going for the throat, we're in love with Trea Turner, and half of this show is terrible at gambling in another Las Vegas Lounge. Subscribe and Review Let's Go To The Phones Follow us on all our socials- https://twitter.com/letsgo2thephone https://www.instagram.com/letsgotothephones/?hl=en

Action News' Jim Gardner joins us to talk about his decades on the air. Also, the CDC has updated guidelines for opioid prescription. And, innovation at the Philadelphia Zoo.

The average person spends roughly 20,440 hours a year sleeping. For over 20 years, Jim Gardner of Gardner's Bedrooms helped his customers choose their personal sleep surface, ensuring each one of those 20,440 hours are spent in maximum comfort and support. Despite Jim's passion for improving others' sleep, he made the difficult decision to retire and turn his business over to Ben McClure. Jim has made such a significant impact on the community and the conversations on this episode are legendary! You won't want to miss this episode! Lancaster Connects:✅  Official: https://lancasterconnects.com ✅  Watch the episode or subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts: https://blubrry.com/lancasterconnects/subscribeThank you for watching Lancaster Connects! This is the show about small business and small charity success in Lancaster county - we showcase the battle on Main Street, big vs. small David vs Goliath, and bring you the best of what makes Lancaster so great. 

Glen and Ray celebrate Ray's retirement with appearances from Howie Roseman, Bernie Parent, Philly Phanatic, Jim Gardner, and many more!

Today Glen and Ray celebrate Ray's retirement and they start things off with well wishes from Jim Gardner and Howard Eskin.

Matt O'Donnell talks Jim Gardner, Drive For Autism and cause

Jim Gardner, is an American news anchor for WPVI-TV in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He's guided viewers of Action News through every event, large and small since 1976. Gardner is an institution in the Delaware Valley, just as iconic as the timeless Action News jingle. But he's retiring this year. He's already started scaling back his duties. So we thought today would be the perfect chance to chronicle the tale of Action Jim.

FULL HOUR | In today's second hour, Dr. Oz returns to the show to discuss his candidacy for Pennsylvania senate and his challenge to Dr. Fauci for a debate concerning his guidance concerning Coronavirus policies. Dr. Oz tells why he's offered the challenge to who's become the head doctor in America, bringing to the table certain propagations by Dr. Fauci that seem to run counter to science. Then, Giordano plays back a clip from another candidate's appearance on the show, George Bochetto, who said he and other Pennsylvanians were offended to see people like Dr. Oz ‘parachute in' as Republicans in the Senate primary. Dr. Oz explains his roots in Pennsylvania, and tells why he believes he could be great representation for Pennsylvania republicans. In addition, Dr. Oz offers his opinion on the debate playing out on Capitol Hill over voter's rights, and tells what he thinks of yesterday's Supreme Court decision to disallow Biden's federal vaccine mandate. Then, Pennsylvania State Senator Mario Scavello joins the Dom Giordano Program to discuss a new memorandum he wrote addressing alleged ghost flights flying illegal immigrants into the state of Pennsylvania. First, Giordano asks Scavello whether these flights affect the voters in his district in Monroe and Northampton counties, to which Scavello explains the detrimental effects of allowing such an act in Pennsylvania. Then, Giordano and Scavello discuss the Coronavirus implications, telling the hypocrisy of strong governance for citizens while allowing this, as well. In addition, Giordano and Scavello discuss multiple other issues playing out around the Commonwealth, including issues around voter's rights. In addition, entertainment critic Neal Zoren returns to the Dom Giordano Program to discuss topics playing out on television screens around the area, first telling listeners why he believes 6ABC and Jim Gardner have monopolized the local news business in 6ABC, also giving his opinion on the new 11PM news lineup. Also, Zoren gives his predictions on the SAG awards, and tells why he values the award almost as much as an Oscar. (Photo by Robin Marchant/Getty Images for Advertising Week New York)

On a General Knowledge Wednesday, Mike opens the show with some thoughts on what the Eagles need to do that can help them win this game and also wants to dive into the Tom Brady hate that lingers on in the city. Tyrone is worried about the disrespect of the goat and thinks there should be more focus on stopping what Tampa Bay has then about who they don't have playing and Jen is starting to believe that the Eagles will keep it a game Sunday and not get blown out(0:00-44:00). Mike switches gears going to the ice to talk about Bobby Clarke ripping on some of the decisions that Ron Hextall made as the GM pertaining to draft picks and how he would alienate other members of the front office. Jen dives into some interesting stories outside the world of sports on “What's Brewin' with Jen” including a bar in Toronto offering to fill any container with beer from expiring kegs, and a giant asteroid is set to pass by Earth on January 18th traveling at 47,344 mph and is 3,451 feet wide (44:00-1:27:15). A listener dropped of some cigars for the gang which leads to a discussion of how Mike's dog doesn't like cigar smoke. Tim McManus joins the show for his Midweek report as the Eagles get ready to head down to Tampa Bay to take on Tom Brady and the Buccaneers Sunday in an NFC Wild Card matchup (1:27:15-2:06:35). Mike goes back to the phones as he tried to understand the hate for Tom Brady and a little tribute to Jim Gardner from 6abc after his final 11pm new broadcast (2:06:35-2:48:07).

KB & Matt are BACK and it's Vol. IV of Color Star Chronicles as the guys continue to dive in deeper on the biggest scandal surrounding the 76ers organization that little to no one is talking about. They discuss the Ben Simmons trade "rumors" and what a dream it would be if the Sixers could also trade Tobias Harris in the same deal. They get into the Eagles playoff matchup against the Bucs, remember a Philadelphia legend in Bob Saget who suddenly passed away this week, and tip their hats to another Philly icon as Jim Gardner called it a career on Tuesday night. Follow Us! Twitter: @UndergroundPHI Kyle: @KBizzl311 Matt: @mattcastorina Website: undergroundsportsphiladelphia.com Watch LIVE: FB: facebook.com/UndergroundSportsPHI Twitch: twitch.tv/undergroundsportsPHI Instagram: @undergroundphi Merch & Apparel: NEW MERCH STORE COMING SOON tomahawkshades.com | Promo Code: "USP" for 25% off at checkout! manscaped.com | Promo Code: "USP" for 20% off AND free shipping statesidevodka.com | Promo Code: "USP" for 10% off the 1L Vodka Bottle (Must be 21+ to purchase. Please drink responsibly) Intro Music: Arkells "People's Champ" Outro Music: Arkells "People's Champ"

Today on the Zeoli Show, breaking news of another record high of the inflation rates hitting the United States under President Biden at an average of 7%. Americans are feeling it from everything from plumbing costs to your average stop to the grocery store and gas pump. It all falls at the feet of President Biden and Democrats unable to escape this as midterms approach. 6:02-We don't want to move on from COVID-19 6:07-NEWS 6:09-President Biden speaks in Georgia on the Democrats' voting rights act and eliminating the filibuster  6:11-Governor Murphy announces extension of school mask mandate 6:25-Philadelphia health commissioner believes COVID case numbers are starting to dip  6:26-Elvis Costello doesn't want his song "Oliver's Army" played anymore  6:40- Top 5 states with fleeing residents all have Democratic Governors 6:43-Callers on supply issues at grocery stores 7:02-NEWS 7:08-Issues of supply at grocery stores  7:12-Will Governor Wolf follow the likes of Governor Murphy declaring another state of emergency over COVID-19 again?  7:15-School comes together in support of teacher who put her son in trunk of her car after they tested positive for COVID-19 7:23-The Nightmare on Elm Street house sells for about $3 million house 7:30-The military is doing exercises on guerilla warfare 7;40-Department of Justice announces a new department that will look into domestic terrorism 7:45-What's on the Cut Sheet | Dr. Fauci vs. Senator Paul | Senator Elizabeth Warren goes after Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell on climate change | Howard Stern wants tennis to throw Novak Djokovic out over vaccine status | Biden calls Kamala Harris President again | MSNBC knows Biden pushing for the voting rights bill is all a show |  8:02-Do we need a Scream 5?  8:08-Dr. Fauci says the Omicron variant will find everyone  8:10-Should we just let Omicron spread?  8:20-NEWS 8:27-It's time to finally take out your Christmas tree  8:37-Parts of China are in lockdown again over another outbreak of another disease. 8:39-Does it make sense for Americans to still participate in the 2022 Winter Olympics?  8:53-Virginia students forced to learn outside in the 20 degree weather  9:02-NEWS 9:07-Americans are reading less  9:13-Inflation rises to 7% 9:27-Senator Bernie Sanders proposes a bill to make facemasks free for all Americans 9:40- What's on the Cut Sheet 2 | Jim Gardner's final 11pm broadcast on 6ABC | Governor Murphy redeclares the public health emergency in New Jersey | Dr. Scott Gotlieb says cloth masks don't work | Trump wants people who got the booster to tell people they did  9:55-Final Thoughts Photo by: Megan Varner / Stringer

Matt and John talk about a recent update to the Franklin & Marshall College poll in the state of Pennsylvania, whether or not racism is "built into roads", Aaron Rodgers being in "hot water" with the woke mob, Scott Boras stating that the trade system in MLB is "broken", and give Philly love to a retiring Jim Gardner in 2022.

Today on The Best of The Anthony Gargano Show, Anthony opens up the show highlighting Philly legends in the following of Jim Gardner's retirement. (00.00-20:46). Derrick Gunn joins the show to talk football (20:46-27:42). “The Geek” joins the show to help you win your fantasy football matchup (27:42-49:17).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Syoen and Harry Bartosiak re-visit classic and "not so classic" TV Shows that we all remember. In this episode, they feature The Rockford Files, and Sanford and Son. Learn how The Rockford Files put Jim Gardner in the hospital many times, the X-rated episode Richard Pryor wrote for Redd Foxx, (and it AIRED), plus Bill "Ray Jay Johnson" Saluga. Also, why Redd Foxx went to the well once too often with "Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you honey!" Plus,...learn the little known REAL name of Redd Foxx,...and it's hilarious!

On this episode of The Digital Broker, Ryan Deeds talks with Jim Gardner about using technology to optimize field inspections. By listening to this episode, you will learn how traditional field inspections cause operational frictions that waste agency resources and frustrates the customer and how technology can streamline this operation by delegating to the operation to the policyholder, guiding everyone through the process, and assembling a report on the go.

Stopping America's Violence Epidemic: How the Church Can Save America by Jim Gardner PH.DThere is an epidemic of violence in our country today and every time another mass shooting occurs, the media and politicians erupt into another volatile debate over the causes and the solution. Stopping America's Violence Epidemic provides an analysis of the underlying causes of this violence, as well as a solution to it. Based upon his forty years of experience as a mental health professional author Jim Gardner, Ph.D. argues that the basic underlying cause of violence is anger, which is often aggravated by painful feelings of grief. He cites research to show that mental health professionals do not know how to help people overcome feelings of grief or anger, and he presents a highly effective faith-based way for resolving feelings of anger and grief that he has used for the last seventeen years.The government, politicians, and the media will never be able to stop the violence epidemic in our country, but with this faith-based solution the Christian church can. When churches learn how to help people effectively overcome their anger and grief and begin teaching this in their church and communities, it will lead to radical changes in them and in our society. The Christian church must lead the way to show the world how to use this powerful prayer-based way to release its anger and forgive, and how to resolve its grief in order to stop the violence epidemic.Jim Gardner, Ph.D. has been a mental health professional for over forty years, and has worked with violent individuals in mental health centers, substance abuse programs, prisons, and in private practice. After using traditional counseling approaches for twenty-five years he found that they were ineffective in helping client overcome feelings of grief, anger, and shame. Then he learned a simple, powerful way to help them resolve these feelings through prayer. For seventeen years he has witnessed hundreds of people be set free from anger, grief, shame, addiction and depression using this faith-based approach. In Stopping America's Violence Epidemic, Dr. Gardner hopes to equip churches to teach their communities how to be set free from the underlying emotions of anger and grief that lead to violence.https://amzn.to/2Nu1sJhwww.PageTurner.ushttp://www.bluefunkbroadcasting.com/root/twia/jgardner.mp3

Stopping America's Violence Epidemic: How the Church Can Save America by Jim Gardner PH.DThere is an epidemic of violence in our country today and every time another mass shooting occurs, the media and politicians erupt into another volatile debate over the causes and the solution. Stopping America's Violence Epidemic provides an analysis of the underlying causes of this violence, as well as a solution to it. Based upon his forty years of experience as a mental health professional author Jim Gardner, Ph.D. argues that the basic underlying cause of violence is anger, which is often aggravated by painful feelings of grief. He cites research to show that mental health professionals do not know how to help people overcome feelings of grief or anger, and he presents a highly effective faith-based way for resolving feelings of anger and grief that he has used for the last seventeen years.The government, politicians, and the media will never be able to stop the violence epidemic in our country, but with this faith-based solution the Christian church can. When churches learn how to help people effectively overcome their anger and grief and begin teaching this in their church and communities, it will lead to radical changes in them and in our society. The Christian church must lead the way to show the world how to use this powerful prayer-based way to release its anger and forgive, and how to resolve its grief in order to stop the violence epidemic.Jim Gardner, Ph.D. has been a mental health professional for over forty years, and has worked with violent individuals in mental health centers, substance abuse programs, prisons, and in private practice. After using traditional counseling approaches for twenty-five years he found that they were ineffective in helping client overcome feelings of grief, anger, and shame. Then he learned a simple, powerful way to help them resolve these feelings through prayer. For seventeen years he has witnessed hundreds of people be set free from anger, grief, shame, addiction and depression using this faith-based approach. In Stopping America's Violence Epidemic, Dr. Gardner hopes to equip churches to teach their communities how to be set free from the underlying emotions of anger and grief that lead to violence.https://amzn.to/2Nu1sJhwww.PageTurner.ushttp://www.bluefunkbroadcasting.com/root/twia/jgardner.mp3

This show was straight from the heart and on the fly! Our original guest cancelled last minute so our host Christopher Rausch went solo! Sharing about the KICKASS feeling of impacting the lives of foster kids this past weekend to offering words of condolence for a friend who passed away recently. Then, two special guests called in to talk all things life and leadership! Veronica Ramirez and Jim Gardner!! Listen to this very special episode!! We're sure you'll walk away with a ton of information for living YOUR KICKASS LIFE! www.christopherrausch.com

My guest this week is Jim Gardner, Founder and CEO of Legendary United.  Join me as Jim and I chat about what it takes for YOU to have a KICKASS entrepreneurial leadership mindset!  Whether you're in business now, gonna be in the future, or working the 9 to 5 grind, Jim will share with us 5 KICKASS tips you can apply immediately!!  Oh, and btw - Jim's story is incredible!! Once you hear it, you'll say "Shit, I guess I don't have any excuses anymore!" Trust me!  You can contact Jim at  JGardner@LegendaryUnited.com or visit his site at www.legendaryunited.com  www.christopherrausch.com

Sian Williams & Richard Coles with commentator and classicist Mary Beard; Namira Salim who's set to be one of the world's first space tourists; Phillippa Yaa De Villiers who was born mixed-race but brought up as white in apartheid South Africa; listener Owen Ephraim who worked with Alan Turing at Bletchley Park; John McCarthy goes biking with travel writer Ted Simon; JP Devlin meets cave collector Jim Gardner; listener Sally Townsend explains why a red fox fur coat is the thing about her; and actress and singer Olivia Newton John shares her Inheritance Tracks. Producer: Dixi Stewart.

Located in the western pacific, the Mariana Trench is the deepest part of the ocean, plunging down 11km. Down there it's pitch black, icy cold and the pressure is immense. Now explorers with funding from the private sector are planning to return to the bottom of the Trench, for the first time for over 50 years. Rebecca Morelle meets Jim Gardner, who works for the US Center for Coastal and Ocean Mapping, and has just completed the most detailed survey ever of the Mariana Trench, using sonar.Alan Jamieson, an ecologist at Oceanlab at the University of Aberdeen in Scotland, uses remote controlled submersibles to study the animals and plants that live at extreme pressure in the deepest parts of the oceans. He tells Rebecca why he believes it is preferable to deploy robots rather than humans to do this research. Legendary marine biologist and underwater explorer, Sylvia Earle, argues that it is essential for us to visit the depths of the ocean and see the extraordinary environment with our own eyes. As the former science chief for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA - the ocean's equivalent of NASA - Sylvia Earle says that the seas have always been the poor relation to space.Rebecca finds out from Bill Raggio of precision glass company Rayotek in San Diego, how to build a glass sphere for Triton submarines which will stop the three-man crew from being crushed by the pressure a the bottom of the Mariana Trench.And Sandra Brook from the Marine Conservation Biology Society talks about how research scientists may work with the commercial teams, like Triton, in the future as resources dry up for purely research submersibles.