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Retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective Gary Jenkins sits down with former criminal and prison minister Bill Corum for one of the most unusual conversations ever featured on Gangland Wire. Bill Corum recounts his journey from car theft and prison escapes in the early 1960s to his deep involvement in Kansas City's criminal underworld in the 1970s and early 1980s. He describes his work around pornography, prostitution, stolen property, cocaine trafficking, and his connections to notorious Kansas City underworld figures. Gary and Bill discuss legendary Kansas City mob fence Sol Landi and his murder by assassins sent by the mob, the River Quay era, Junior Bradley, corrupt influences in local politics and the courts, and the explosive cocaine culture that swept through Kansas City during the 1980s. Bill also shares stories involving Weld Wheels founder Kenny Weld, cocaine trafficking operations, and the dangerous atmosphere surrounding organized crime in Kansas City. The conversation dives into: Bill's prison escape and stolen car career The prostitution business in Independence, Missouri Mob-connected fences and stolen property rings Cocaine trafficking in Kansas City during the early 1980s The murder of Saul Landy River Quay nightlife and mob influence Corrupt officials and criminal networks Kansas City organized crime personalities Prison life and criminal culture Bill Corum's dramatic religious conversion in 1983 His decades-long prison ministry work across America Bill also explains how he transformed his life after addiction, violence, and years in the criminal world, eventually dedicating his life to prison outreach and ministry programs throughout the United States. You can learn more about Bill Corum and his book at either The Ultimate Pardon or Bill Corum Official Website If you're interested in true crime, mafia history, and real law enforcement stories, this is an episode you don't want to miss. Subscribe for more mafia history and true crime stories every week. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to “buy me a cup of coffee” Subscribe to the website for weekly notifications about updates and other Mob information. To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent ‘Brothers against Brothers’ or ‘Gangland Wire,’ the documentaries click here.  To purchase one of my books, click here. [00:00:00] hey, all you wiretappers. Gary Jenkins here, retired Kansas City police detective in the intelligence unit. Turned podcaster and author and documentary filmmaker. If you want to see any of my stuff, go to my website and look in the show notes or look in the I think the donate page. Of course, if you’re in the donate page, you might want to hit the donate button. We always use a little, can use a little support. And I have a guy that I’d heard of and I’d seen on YouTube and I have mu- we have mutual friends, but I had never actually met him. And I, so I g- I… Some people he knows asked me to be on their show. And so I was on their show, and Bill was on that show at the same time. So we started talking. We had lunch and we had all these… We were running in the same circles, but separate circles that then overlapped every once in a while. He was on one side of the law and I was on the other. So Bill Corum. Welcome, Bill. Thank you, Gary. Thank you so much. And we were running in opposite… We were running real close- … but I was careful. When [00:01:00] I got out of prison, it- You were. When I got out of prison in 1964, I had two goals. Yeah. Never go back, and never get caught. And I started breaking the law the day I got out of prison, and I broke the law for almost 19 years and didn’t get caught. I got caught a couple times at little things, and I got… I hired a high-powered criminal attorney that came out of Alex Peebles’ office who’s now a judge. I won’t even mention his name. He’s now a judge. I think I told you who it was. But and Alex got me out of a couple deals way back when. But little things. And I was still, doing everything. And I went for almost 19 years and didn’t get caught. Unlike many of my friends, I’ve been in prison ministry for 40 years now, and I run around with a lot of guys that did a lot of time. 25 years, 40 years. Li- they had double life without parole, now they’re out But I never got caught. Yeah. And I was speaking at a women’s prison just recently, and I was talking to the women, and I was telling that story, and I said, “I got out and I [00:02:00] went for 19 years.” She said, “You must have been awful smart.” I said I wa- I wasn’t too smart or I wouldn’t have been doing that stuff.” But I did know ways and one thing was ’cause I didn’t talk to people. I didn’t have a lot of… Kinda like the trench coat robbers. They robbed banks for 15 years- Yeah … and never got caught because they didn’t email, text, phone calls, none of that. Yeah. They would, they would- And they moved away too. Oh, yeah. Kinda moved away from their home territory, so they- Yeah y- they weren’t having their buddies come up to them say, “Hey, what are you doing? Where you been?” “I haven’t seen you for a while.” And then they turn around and tell some cop that they know, “Hey, I can’t remember the guy’s name now. Billy Kirkpatrick. Billy Kirkpatrick. He’s been out of town. He just got back.” And, you know- Yeah … then they put… Suddenly they get this notice about these bank robbers somewhere else. They… He didn’t do that. He stayed- … out of town. So Bill, let’s- No, that was me. Go ahead. Go, let’s go back and start you from the beginning. Introduce to who you are to my guys, ’cause they don’t know you. I didn’t know you, ’cause you were such a low profile in this world. You said you got out of prison. Why don’t we [00:03:00] start with that? Where, what were you in the joint for originally? I was originally in there for Dyer Act, which is, in the feds, that’s interstate transportation- Yeah of stolen motor vehicles. I was in the Marine Corps. I went AWOL. I got caught. I went back. I got back AWOL again. I went back. They put me on restrictions, said I couldn’t leave the base. I was at that point in my life where nobody could tell me what to do. And so I’s “I’m leaving the base,” and I left and I think I stole 10, 12 cars while I was out. And then I got put in the… When I got back the next time, they put me in the brig, and I escaped from the brig. And and I stole a car off the base back in tho- in the ’60s, early ’60s, ’62, 3. People left their keys in their car. Yeah. And I went out. I was in the parachute locker painting. When the guard came in to check on me, I hit him in the back of the head with a full bucket of paint, a full gallon of paint, and I went out the window and I got a car, and I actually had a guy with me. He said, “I’m going with you.” And so we got in the car, and when we got to [00:04:00] the gate, I said, “Now, if that guard steps out at the gate, I’m running over him.” And he’s “No, don’t do…” I said “Just shut up. I’m running over him.” And I got to the gate, and the guard stepped out and saluted me. And I’m like, “What in the world?” I drove into town, run out of gas, Gary. Got out and stole… I don’t know how I remember this. I stole a ’62 maroon Bonneville. And when I was walking away from the car, my buddy looked back and started laughing. I said, “What are you laughing about?” He said, “I see why they saluted us. That car had a colonel sticker on the bumper.” So then I stole that car, that Bonneville, drove into Mississippi. Because I always ask guys in prisons, “How many of you know when you escape from prison you need some different clothes?” Yeah. So I drove into a little town called Leland, Mississippi, and I was breaking in a clothing store to get me some clothes. It was 11:00 at night, and I looked down, I was climbing up on some boxes to get to the roof to go in the skylight, ’cause they had analog alarms, they were easy to beat. [00:05:00] And I looked down and I saw a flashlight coming down the alley. So I dropped down, ran the other way, and I turned the corner and ran into the biggest, fattest Mississippi sheriff you ever seen. And he had a gun, he had a gun about this long. And he stuck it right here, and he goes, “Where are you going, boy?” And I said, “With you, sir.” That’s what I said. And that was the end of the Marine Corps. So now I’ve taken a car across the state line, and the feds step in. And I went to… I got a six-year sentence. I got what they call a zip six. And back then, before ’86, now in ’86 they passed it to 85%. Yeah. But prior to 80- prior to ’86, you could get out of the feds at one-third of your sentence. And so I got this six-year sentence. I got out in two years, and when I got out, I said, “I’m never getting caught again. I’m never going back to prison.” And I went for ni- and I just started right then. And everything from then on was like, I got involved with pornography. I was promoting [00:06:00] pornography and prostitution. There’s a story in my book about me being a… I was a bodyguard and a chauffeur for a lady that had a cat house over in Independence. You know where Inglewood was in Independence? And guys- You know where- … In- Independence is a suburb of Kansas City, but it’s like whole, decently large city for a suburb- Yeah … but it’s connected to it. Yeah. That’s where Harry Truman was from- That’s right … and retired back to. Yeah. So y- you were over there probably on the east side of Independence. Inglewood’s kinda closer to Kansas City, over there- Yes … by Dogpatch, in what we call Dogpatch. That’s- The- … kinda totally lawless area. And so there was a guy there that I was friends with that had a record store. He was the first guy in Kan- his name was Tony Marino. He’s in my book. He’s dead now. He was the first guy ever in Kansas City to sell paraphernalia in a record store. And he was making 25,000 a month- Wow … back in the… Yeah, when it started. That was a lot of money. And he, right next to him was a [00:07:00] store, it’s still there. I go by it all the time, ’cause we eat at the Englewood Cafe all the time. It’s the only one on that little s- first strip there that’s got steps going up. And a lady up there had a cathouse for 12 years, prostitutes. And her main customers were executives from Ford Motor Company- … from General Motors, and from Hallmark Cards. And the reason, Gary, was because she knew if she had executives, they weren’t gonna talk. Yeah. And she had beautiful women. She didn’t have ladies like up on Main and Troost and Prospect. Yeah. The- these women had all their teeth, and they were- … and they were good-looking. Yeah. And so the first guy, a- actually, who got me the job was Sal Rello, that o- that owned he owned that deluxe deli down on 430, where the Erotic City is now. Oh, yeah. He owned that- Yeah … he owned that bar. Heard about him, yeah. And I told him for years, I said, “You need to open an adult bookstore here,” because Gary, he was the only bar in Kansas City, the only bar [00:08:00] in Kansas City that was open on Election Day. You know why? ‘Cause he was in the county. He was in the county. He wasn’t in- Wasn’t in the city, yeah … he wasn’t in the city. And he was open on Election Day. And I told him, I said, “Man, if you’d open an adult bookstore, you could make a lot of money.” He never did, of course. Yeah. And then they put Erotic City in there, and it went good for a few years and stuff, yeah. But so he’s the one that told me about her. I went to interview with her, and she said, “I just have one question. Do you carry a gun?” I said, “No, ma’am, I carry two guns.” And she said, “You’re hired.” And so G- Gary, I picked her up every day on the Plaza. She lived in a $2,000 a month apartment on the Plaza in 1976. Yeah. That was a lot of money. That’s five today. And, yeah, and I took her to get her facial every Tuesday. I took her to the beauty shop every Thursday, and read about her in my book. She was 80 years old. The name of that chapter in my book is 80-Year-Old Hooker. She was 80, 80 years old, and she [00:09:00] ran it like a business. I had, I, she opened at 9:00 in the morning and closed at 5:00 at night, and ran it just five days a week, just like a business. And I wouldn’t be surprised she didn’t pay taxes. She was legit, man. Yeah. And I knew you can’t operate something like that for 12 years in Independence, Missouri, and not have the police know about it. No, they knew about it. Oh, yeah. It’s that upper echelon, they were, they just steered people away from each other. Oh, yeah. Don’t worry about that. Oh, yeah. That’s right. So that was- So Bill, y- you, you moved from that- Into the drug business now, how did you, how’d you even get started in that? Where like 1960s, ’60, by the late ’60s, drugs are starting to, become more popular and there becomes a real market for it that’s among- Yeah a much larger constituency than ever before. So now, how did you- I re- … move into that? I, oh, I really, for years and years, Gary, years, I didn’t have a partner [00:10:00] because I knew if I had to run, I didn’t want somebody… I didn’t know if my partner would tell on me, so I did everything by myself. I did one thing one time and I had to have a partner, and I stole a computer out of a crane at General Motors down in Leeds. And I, and my fence, the chapter in my book, They Killed My Fence, that was Saul Andy. Yeah. And when Saul got killed, like they killed my fence, because anything I took to Saul, he’d buy it. Didn’t matter if it was guns or it didn’t matter what it was. And I didn’t never keep anything except cash. If I had money, I’d keep it, but I’d never keep anything. I didn’t keep diamond rings or… I got rid of all that stuff, ’cause I never wanted anything to be able to identify me and tie me to a crime. And Saul, when he got killed, of course, then I started dealing with another guy. But Saul was taking all that and selling it to Junior Bradley, most of it, the stuff that Junior- And, and- … would be interested in. And guys- But, J- Junior Bradley, I gotta explain who Junior Bradley was. Junior Bradley was the mob fence in Kansas City. He was probably the biggest fence in Kansas City I got a [00:11:00] feeling. He, and what he started doing was trading Dilaudid especially for stolen property, and he had a little deli right across from police headquarters and City Hall, and everybody knew Junior. Everybody loved Junior. Everybody liked Junior. He’s always doing favors for people. If you went in the penitentiary, you’d go talk to Junior and say, “Okay, what, what’s gonna happen when I get here? Can you help me out?” And he’ll say, “I’ll make some calls.” Or I, we had, we overheard him on a wiretap once saying- a, a father called him and said, my son’s got to report up here to Leavenworth to the camp.” He said, “Okay, I’ll take care of it. I’ll be somebody there to meet him there.” And I’ve had many other reports but Junior was the main mob fence. So go ahead- Yeah … and we’ll talk what you were dealing with- Yeah Junior Bradley. Yeah be- let’s back up. So you asked me about how I got into drugs. So all those years when I was married, I didn’t drink and I didn’t do drugs. I thought if you did dope, you were a d- I thought that’s why they call it dope, ’cause you were a dope if you did it. Yeah. So I didn’t do it, and I didn’t drink because I knew I had to always be able to think and make [00:12:00] decisions and… ‘Cause I cheated on my wife every day for 10 years, and I did crime every day for 10 years, and she never knew it till I wrote this book. And I gave her the first book actually. And so- When I got divorced and started smoking pot and doing stuff, hanging out with those people, and I started smoking weed, then the first time I bought an ounce of weed it was 40 bucks. And I’m like, “Okay, how much is how much is more if you buy more? You can buy a half pound for this or you can buy…” So I said then I’ll… Give me a half a pound and I’m gonna sell,” yeah. So I started buying pounds and selling ounces, and man, all of a sudden I’m, now I’m smoking free and I’m making some money. Yeah. And then I started sell- And by the time I ended, even when I was selling cocaine, I was selling 100 pounds of pot a week. I had one guy that would buy 100 pounds of pot from me every week. Yeah. And I’d just take him 100 pounds and he’d just bring my… Every day he’d stop by my house [00:13:00] with sacks of money, and that was, the way I got started in the drug world then. And everything. It was from pot, it was, meth. We called it crank back then, not meth. And then I never did get real addicted to crank, but I got real addicted to cocaine. And of course, I was doing a drug class the other day. I teach a drug class, my wife and I, addictions class at our church. And I said, when I started, I was only gonna sell it and not do it.” And because one guy said I was only gonna do it and never sell it.” And I said, “No, not me. I was gonna sell it and never do it.” But that didn’t last very long. And once you start doing it you’re in there, and, Yeah, really … and then, when I got arrested September 5th of ’82 the guy that I beat up I put 100 stitches in the back of his head with a ball bat, and it was in an active enforcement really. But he turned states. He’s the one, when Kenny… You remember Kenny Weld? I remember the name. Was you still on the force when Kenny got busted in ’83? [00:14:00] Yeah. ’80- Yeah, I would’ve been. Okay. So- I have some vague memory, I don’t remember the, all the details. At the time it was the biggest drug bust, it was the biggest just drug bust in, I know in Kansas City, maybe. They caught him out there in Blue Springs with 29 pounds of cocaine, and we were selling- Yeah … cocaine to the people that were selling cocaine to Kenny. And so the guy that I beat up gave a 20-page, which is like reading a book, 20 typewritten pages. Yeah. 20 typewritten pages, and he named every name involved in the circle that he knew, and that implicated us as being some of the leading cocaine dealers in Kansas City. Yeah. Now, when I go speak in churches and a pastor gets up and says, “Folks, today we’ve got the biggest cocaine dealer that ever lived.” I get up and say, “You know what? I don’t mean to correct your pastor.” But I was implicated as being one of the leading cocaine- I was not the leading cocaine dealer. There was a lot of people bigger than me. But that’s that’s how it all started and [00:15:00] of course my case, I never did… the drugs never came in. The lawyers that I had, because when I got busted it was on a Sunday, and that’s part of my story. I always ask inmates, “How many of you have been arrested on a weekend?” And every hand goes up. Yeah. And I say, and then I say, “What happens when you get arrested on a weekend?” They all yell, “Nothing.” ‘Cause you’re not going anywhere till Monday morning, at the very least. I got arrested 2:00 Sunday afternoon. By that time, Gary, I had three goals. When I was about 30, I got nicknamed by one of the key mafia figures Crazy Bill, ’cause I did some crazy things. Like I ran through a bar. You know where the old Club Royal was on Main? Oh yeah. There was a bar right ac- I’ve drunk there many times. Okay. There was a bar across the street that I had a girlfriend working in, and we got in a fight, and I was gonna cut the bar in half with a chainsaw. And I had my buddy drop me at the back parking lot. I fired the chainsaw up, I opened the door, and when the door… When I stepped inside, the door [00:16:00] closed with the closer, and the dar- the bar was totally dark. It was not a bar where you could even buy a bag of potato chips. It was strictly alcohol. And when you get- Yeah … in a bar like that, they’re dark. And that door shut, and I thought, “I’m gonna bend over and start cutting this bar, and somebody just shoot me in the back.” So I just wa- I just walked through the bar with the chainsaw running and went out the front door, and Kenny picked me up in the front, and off we went. And so because of that, I got nicknamed Crazy Bill. Yeah. By 30 years old, I had three goals: money, power, and influence. Now, I told you as we were selling a lot of cocaine. So I stayed in $500 a night hotels. I ride in limousines. I bought $20,000 worth of cocaine for a one-night party. So I had money, and I had enough power to make a phone call and have somebody killed, so I had power. And I had enough influence that when I got arrested Sunday afternoon, now I love telling this to a police officer. I was on a show in Texas with a cop, and we called it the Con and the Cop. [00:17:00] But I love telling this story. I got arrested September 5th. 2:00, 2:00 PM is when they booked us into the jail, and I made a phone call back to Kansas City to somebody who was in politics, and I said, “You know who to call.” And that person called the judge we were selling cocaine to. And I ask this question in prisons, “How many of you know when you’re selling cocaine to a judge, he don’t want you in jail?” And I walked out of that jail, Gary, at 1:30 Monday morning. Wow. I got arrest- less than 12 hours after I got arrested on a weekend. And when I walked out of that jail, I said, “Bill Corum, you’ve arrived. You got money.” “You got power, and you got influence.” But the one thing I didn’t have was peace. Yeah. I didn’t have any peace, man. No peace. Yeah. If I was in a restaurant eating and a cop walked in, I’d put money on the table and go out the door. If I saw a UPS driver, I got nervous ’cause he had a uniform on. I didn’t have any peace. And then after I became a Christian, I was reading in the Bible [00:18:00] one day, and it said, “A wicked man runs when no one’s chasing him.” And I went, “Oh my gosh, I left a lot of steak dinners sitting on the table.” And wasn’t anybody chasing you. Nobody. That cop didn’t even know I was in there. He probably didn’t even know who I was. Really? He just come in… He just came in there to eat, and I thought he was after me. So Bill, I always like to go into the, the nuts and bolts of some of these things. And we kinda left one thing hanging, is the Saul Landy story. Now guys, Saul Landy was a big sports bettor. And Saul Landy had a, wasn’t it a metal- Square Deal Junk- Square Deal Junkyard. Square… He had a junkyard. Square Deal. He bought a lot of scrap metal and dealt in scrap metal, but he also would buy most anything from, from- Yeah … thieves, from boosters- Yeah … and burglars and people like that. That’s where Bill met him. But he’s a huge sports gambler, and they thought he might testify against our boss, Nick Civella, because he had been allowed to bet down at The Trap, down with Frankie Tusa, who was the underling [00:19:00] that handled all the sports gambling for Nick Civella. Isn’t that right? Isn’t that the way that went down? Oh, yeah, and Bobby Maroon was running The Trap at the time. And- yeah … so do you remember the guy that, that paid for his murder? Remember that guy, Johnny Franks, Johnny Frank Avella? That’s what they said, yep. Yeah. Yep. He had, he had- That’s what they said. He had some connections. But he got… But Johnny Franks got the order from somebody else. Yeah. Yeah … the bug, the buck stopped with Johnny Franks now, didn’t it? Yes. ‘Cause he hired another guy, who then he hired a Black guy, which was- That’s right … truly unusual. Who then- That’s right … hired a couple of young Black street kids and that was even more unusual, and they killed this Saul Landy and his wife. So they keep a f- And then they sang and then they sang like The Temptations. Exactly, yeah. That, and that’s that w- some claim that Johnny Franks did that just on his own, trying to impress Nick Civella. Some people say that somebody else told him to do it. I don’t… It never, he never talked, so it never came about. Yeah. [00:20:00] Did you ever hear anything about that? I never heard anything except what you just said, that he- Okay … he never talked, and Nick, Nick never got convicted. He never- Yeah … but here’s the thing that, what you said. The guys that they hired to do it, because back in those days as y- you’d go to… i’d go to the electric chair before somebody, before I’d tell on somebody. Yeah. I’m not gonna tell on anybody. Go ahead and put me in the gas chamber, I’m not telling on nobody. But those guys would, they’d sing like The Temptations. They weren’t gonna, they- Yeah … they wouldn’t- Those street kids If they offered them a day in jail, they wouldn’t take it. If you’ll tell us, we won’t, we’re only gonna put you in jail for a week if you’ll tell. Yeah. They wouldn’t tell. So how did that work with you and Saul Landy? You weren’t a sports bettor you didn’t have anything to do with that. You were a thief. Yeah, and I don’t know- And- I honestly, you know what? Gary, I don’t remember who even told me to go to Saul with stolen merchandise, ’cause I was hitting a lot of construction jobs back then. [00:21:00] Ah. I worked construction, and I was in the union, and I was stealing off these jobs all the time. Big- Ah, yeah … big amounts of stuff. Like they’d start a brand-new job, and they’d have all brand-new tools, and I’d go over there and take everything they had. And then I’d take it all to Saul. And matter of fact, one time I did a job over in, it was a eight-story high-rise over in Kansas City, Kansas, down around Argentine, in the Argentine area. And I was on the job, I was working on the job, and we just started. And we had all this trailer, a whole trailer load of tools. And I went over and got all the tools, and the last thing I took out was the cutting torch. I cut the lock off the door, ’cause I had a key to get in. And so when I got to work the next morning, I had everything in my truck. I had a tonneau cover over my truck and had all these tools in the back of my truck, and parked in the parking lot. I got there and I called Johnny Myers, who was running the job, and Johnny’s been dead for years. I said, “Hey, Johnny, somebody hit our job last night.” He’s “What?” I said, “Yeah, they cut the lock off. They got everything.” [00:22:00] And he said call the police and I’ll be out there in just a few minutes.” And so the cops come, couple detectives and he was telling what they, what was going on. I’m standing there listening to the whole thing. And there was a generator, a big generator, and I was real strong back then, Gary. I was 6’3″ and weighed 275 and I carried this generator down the steps and this… and Johnny said, or the cop said that, how much that generator weigh?” And he told him, and he said it had to be at least two guys, if not three. But no, no one guy could carry that down them steps.” And Johnny turned around and he said, “Except Superman,” ’cause that’s what they called me on the job. And they laughed, and he laughed, and I laughed. Yeah. And then that night after I got off work, I took it all down to Square Deal and sold it all to Saul. Yeah. Interesting. So- All right. Thanks so much … and I did that stuff all, yeah, I did that stuff all the time. But I honestly do not remember who introduced me to Saul Landy. Yeah. But I know that for years and years we were buddies. And when I first met him, I used a, I had an alias that I always went by. I had two a- two aliases. One of them was a guy I [00:23:00] was in prison with that was from East St. Louis, and I knew everything about him, ’cause we were real good friends. I knew his middle name, I knew his mom and dad’s name. I knew everything about him, so I’d use his name. So if anybody ever asked me a question, I knew. The other guy was a cousin of mine that I hadn’t seen for y- I used his name, ’cause I knew everything about him. So what, the, when I first met my wife, we went to a dance one night. We weren’t married yet, and we were walking up the steps, and this guy walking down said, “Hey, Jim. How you doing, Jim?” And I said, “Good.” We got in, sat down. My wife looked at me and she said, “I thought your name was Bill.” I s- said, “It is. It is Bill.” I said, “He probably just had me mixed up with somebody else.” ‘Cause there was a lot of people in the inner circles, yeah. So when I met Saul Andy, something inside of me told me to… Because I met Saul, and I told him my name was Jim Gardner. Yeah. And he’s we did a couple deals, and then something inside of me told me to b- be honest with Saul. And so I sat him down one day, I said, “I wanna tell you something. I use that name as an alias. My [00:24:00] real name is Bill Corum,” and da. And I was so glad I did, because later I would be in the River Key in a restaurant or a bar with Saul, and some of the guys were in there, and I thought if I’d have used the… If he’d introduced me as Jim Gardner- Yeah … and then later they find out who I am, I might not be here. Yeah. You know what I mean? You might- So I- They might think you’re undercover cop or a- Exactly. Exactly. So I just- Informant or something, yeah … it, a- and that, I think that’s in my book. I told that story because I just, I felt like being upfront with him, and I, because I trusted him, yeah. I actually, in, in the book I think I said if Nick Civella trusted him, I thought I could trust him. Yeah. But a- apparently, apparently- Bet he didn’t trust him all that much … no. Yeah. Because right there, out there on Pennsylvania, or let’s see, where’d they… They lived right off 75th, right behind the what was that restaurant on 75th? The Italian place? Yeah … I starts with a G, I think. Yeah, I know. Just north of Ward Parkway Shopping Center. Yeah. Yeah. I know the neighborhood, yeah. Oh, Cat- was it Cat? [00:25:00] No. C- it doesn’t matter. But he lived right down that str- he lived on Washington. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. About 77th or 8th and Washington, in Washington, yeah. I remember that. Yeah. But that’s how I met Saul. And what, and guys, what those guys did that night, they tried to make it look like a home invasion robbery, but ended up killing him and his w- and I think they raped his wife too. But, They didn’t kill her. They left her alive they, they left her alive. But- Yeah … they really m- tried to make it look like a home invasion robbery, not a hit, which was, at least they were that smart. They just weren’t- Yeah … couldn’t keep their mouth shut, and they couldn’t, weren’t smart enough to not tell their friends, so they got caught. Good, good thing there wasn’t no Facebook back then, Gary. Yeah, it’s crazy. It’s crazy. Crazy world you live in, so- these kids- Bill … yeah. What happened? What happened? You had all this going. You had money, power, influence. Yeah, I- You caught a cocaine case. Now the thing about that cocaine case, that you said, I thought you said Wells. It’s Kenny Weld, isn’t it? The race car driver? W-E-L-D. Kenny Weld. W-E-L-D. Yeah. He was a race [00:26:00] car driver at that time. I, I- Kinda well-known, and he had a whole set of… He had a big company that sold wheels … Weld Wheels … fancy wheels. He was really doing well, and then he got involved with a b- huge, big cocaine thing. I didn’t know, remember you were part of that, but I remember that. A multi-million dollar- Yeah … wheel business. Yeah. I still am a big… I was a dirt track guy. I grew up on dirt. Yeah. I love dirt. I actually took his brother, Greg, who actually owned the company, I took Greg to his first… the first race that Greg ever raced in, I drove him to the races. And then Kenny and I and Greg, and they won the Knoxville Nationals. Greg raced in the Indianapolis 500 four times. Yeah. They were a big name in the country, the Welds. And making millions of dollars, Gary. Even back then, they were making millions of dollars. Yeah. And then Kenny got caught up in the cocaine and started messing with it, and next thing you know… he was making a lot of money in the cocaine too, but- Yeah … he got caught with 29 pounds, which was a large amount. But that statement that guy [00:27:00] made on me, ’cause I always felt guilty because Kenny got busted because the statement that he made, he named Kenny Weld in that statement, and it wasn’t long after that they arrested Kenny. But I’m sure they were already watching him, for sure. But then I, and I don’t know, Kenny got eight year, Kenny got 25 years. He went to Sandstone first up in Minnesota. Yeah. And he only did 52 months, so I’m not sure, because back then a third would’ve been eight, eight and a half years or something, right? Yeah. And he only did 52 months, so I don’t know how that, maybe it was money or whatever. I don’t know. Yeah. But he turned his life around in prison, but then what’s the sad deal, when I turned my life around, I tried to get in touch with Kenny Weld, and he wouldn’t talk to me. He- Yeah … he was avoid- I think he was afraid that I was gonna come after him because the guy I beat up was the guy that was… We were all involved in the cocaine world together. Joker John, I don’t know if you knew who Joker John Agrusa was. I [00:28:00] don’t remember that n- I don’t remember that name now. Was he- They had a bar out on, they had a bar on, out on 23rd Street. No, I don’t, I don’t- Joker John’s. John, his last name was Agrusa. He had a brother- Agrusa, yeah … named Nick Agrus. New- Nick Agrusa’s brother. Yeah, I co- do kinda remember that. He went down- Yeah … with that whole thing. See, I was- That was ’83. I was I was off into something else during those years. Okay. No- That was early in the coke, crack cocaine thing … no, John, w- after I beat up Pink Mike, John Agrusa left town. He moved to Arizona, ’cause he was scared of me. A l- a lot of people- ’cause I was crazy. I did some crazy things, and people were scared. And so when I got arrested on that deal, he left town. He went to Arizona. And then Kenny got busted, Kenny Weld. And the, some of the people in that… My dad read that 20-page statement, and my dad said… And my dad was an old guy. He was born in 1909, but he read that statement, and he said, “This guy’s worth, life ain’t worth a nickel, is it?” And I [00:29:00] said, “No.” ‘Cause the guy that wrote the statement. Then I got arrest- you knew Jim Smart was a judge? Yeah, I remember the name. I didn’t know him. Okay. Jim… back then, Jim was a lawyer, and then later became appellate court judge. Yeah. And he’s retired now, but a real good friend of mine. So when I, that happened, I got… My case ended in May of ’84. Started September 5th of ’82, and ended in May of ’84. And in June of ’85, 13 months later, I got sued by the guy I beat up. Me and the other couple guy. One of the guys that was with me is dead, Charlie Elmer. I don’t know if you ever heard that name, but he was a- No, don’t know that name … cocaine dealer. But anyway I was just gonna forget about it, and I showed that to my dad, that indict- or not indictment, the notice that I need to appear in court. Statement. Yeah. Yeah, and my dad s- no, not the statement, when he sued me. [00:30:00] Oh, the oh, okay. Then they filed charges. Yeah, the counter-suit. And I showed it to my dad one day and I wasn’t even gonna go. I said, “Oh, God will take care of it.” And my dad read it, and he’s “Bill, you gotta get a lawyer.” Yeah. You’re being charged, and so I went and got a lawyer, and I got Jim Smart. And and Jim tried to go and do a deposition on that guy, on Pink Mike. Could never find him. Ah. And I di- I don’t know, I honestly don’t know. I know I didn’t have nothing to do with… But nobody’s ever been able to find him. But I’m suspecting, ’cause my dad said when he read that 20 pa- he said his life isn’t worth a nickel. Because he named judge in there, a judge in there. He named Kenny Weld in there. He named a lot of other big-name guys, and he’s disappeared, so nobody know. I haven’t seen him since the day in court in 1982. So who knows where he’s at. Yeah. If he’s around. I don’t know. But- Interesting. What did you finally cop? Did you have a full trial, or did you go ahead and cop a plea in the end? That’s interesting you’d [00:31:00] ask because when we first, when we got out of jail at 1:30 Monday morning, the 3rd of the 6th of September, he wal- the lawyer came and walked us out with, we… we had left, we were staying in the Embassy Suites downtown. You know where that was at? Oh, yeah. It was 500 bucks a night, and we had left two s- two s- brief- briefcases there with one had cocaine in it uncut, and the other one had about $60,000 in it. And so we went down. We actually called… he’s dead now, so I can tell you who it was. Jerry Schanzer that owned Napoleon Bakery. And Jerry was a big… i’m surprised that you didn’t, you talk about bookmakers. Jerry was a big bookmaker. Yeah. Exactly. And Schanzer- I remember him, yeah … Schanzer owned Mother’s down on 18th and Baltimore. Not Mother’s. Granny’s. Granny’s, yeah. He owned Granny’s at 18th and Baltimore. Yeah, a lot of mob guys used- And then he- … to go down there and eat. Oh, every time I went in there I saw [00:32:00] somebody. Yeah. And then later he opened up one over in Mission shopping center there on Mission Road. And then they then they ended up opening up Napoleon, him and his brother Larry. And then they’re both dead now. But we, this is how much we trusted Jerry. We told Jerry, “Go…” We called Jerry from the jail and said, “Go down to the Embassy and get our, get a briefcase.” And Jerry went down and he drove halfway to Warrensburg and ha- something told him to open it- Oh, wow … and he opened the one, he opened the one that had the cocaine in it. Oh, shit. And he called us and said, “I got the wrong briefcase.” And it… No, he said, “I can’t come and get you with this.” And so he went back to the Embassy and got the right one. Came down, and we made bond that night. Then the next morning was… Okay, that was we got busted on Sunday the 5th. Monday we got out. The lawyer [00:33:00] said, Mike, I don’t know if you ever knew Mike and what was his dad’s name? The Fi- it was Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald was the name of the firm in, down in Warrensburg. Warensburg, yeah. I don’t know them. Yeah. And Mike and Charlie Fitzgerald. So ’cause I called People’s Office and said, “Hey, this happened.” And they said, “Stick with those guys. Those guys are the best in the county. They know the county. They know the prosecutor, the judges and everything. Stick with them.” So we went in. He told us, “Don’t come in tomorrow morning,” ’cause it was 1:30 in the morning Monday morning. He said, “Come and see me Wednesday.” Yeah. And so we went… no, he said, “Come and see me Tuesday,” ’cause that was 1:30 in the morning. And we walked in there that morning and he said, “Come and see me tomorrow morning, Tuesday morning.” And bring me $10,000 apiece. And I wish I had a video of it, because it can be on America’s Funniest Home Videos. I walked into his office with a white bank bag and dumped out $30,000 on his desk in cash, and he opened [00:34:00] his drawer like this and scooped it into the drawer. And I said, “Mike, there’s a lot more where that came from.” He said, “Bill, I can’t. It’s… I gotta do everything legitimately.” Yeah. And I said, “Okay.” So the first meeting, his dad was in there and he was in there, and the three of us, and he said, “Guys, Dad and I have talked, and you guys might wanna think about getting separate attorneys.” And I said, “For what?” He said, “Because if one of you take a plea.” Yeah. I almost jumped over the desk. I said, “There’ll be no plea. There will be no plea. We’re not guilty. We’re not gonna admit we’re guilty. They can send us to the electric chair. We didn’t do it.” Now, Gary, they took us out of the house at 2:00 on Sunday afternoon in broad daylight. First, they s- we sent the guy out the back. He was totally naked when we got there. He was laying in bed. He’d been doing Dilaudids and Quaaludes all night, and he was [00:35:00] blood from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet. His whole back was red. We walked him out the door in- totally naked in front of the whole world and told him, “Go out there and tell them there’s nobody else in the house.” We were so jacked up. And here’s the thing, I have to tell you this. All those years that I got away with stuff is because I was smart, and now I’m snow blind. There was a song years ago by Styx called Snow Blind- Yeah … and it’s about cocaine. It’s about… And I’d been up for 86 hours when we went down to Holden. I had not- Okay … closed my eyes for 86 hours, so I was in m- I wasn’t in my right mind. Anyway, that was… So when we we said, “No plea bargain. There’ll be no plea bargains.” And for seven months… No, I’m sorry, for four months. That was October, November, December, January, February, March, April. No, seven months. For seven months. For seven months [00:36:00] we went to court multiple times. The whole police department, I don’t know if we can- I guess we’ll say it, because it’s done. It’s history. But I had a, I had two grocery sacks, the old brown grocery sacks on the couch that I’d inventoried. I had $62,000 in cash. I had… Because it was in envelopes, and I- they were $10,000. I was throwing them in there. 62,000 in cash, about four pounds of pot, three gallon Ziploc bags full of precious jewels. Er emeralds, rubies, and stuff like that. Some hash- a 12-gauge shotgun. I think that was all. Maybe maybe it… Whatever. When they, when… The first time we ever went to court and my partner had, the one that’s dead, Charlie, he had a leather Gucci bag that we always had with us, and it had four or five grams of cocaine in it. He took his diamond rings off, put them in there. His watch, he had a Rolex [00:37:00] watch he put in there, and about 3,000 in cash. That was in the car. That was never mentioned in court. No guns were ever mentioned in court. No guns were ever mentioned in court. I had a brand new, I had a brand new fif- not- model 59 nine millimeter. That was never mentioned in court. That 12-gauge shotgun was never mentioned in court. They said that they found a couple envelopes of cash, and they found a gram. Now, there was about, I think there was about probably a half a, maybe eight, eight grams or no more than that. It was ounces. Four or five ounces of cocaine. Oh, yeah. They said they found one, they said they found one gram of a, approximately one gram of a substance believed to be cocaine. Yeah. And my lawyer said… And they said they’d send it to Jeff City for analysis. And my lawyer said, “And what were the analysis of that?” They said they haven’t come [00:38:00] back yet. This is two months after they arrested us. They did- And they found approximately one gram, and there was ounces of cocaine in there. They found a couple envelopes with approximately $2,000 in cash. There was $62,000. The car I was driving, so when I got arrested, I had the keys in my pocket. So when they booked us into jail, when we walked out at 1:30 Monday morning, they gave us back our property. I had the keys in my pocket. So the car’s… Now, this is a brand new ’80, this was a ’82. This was an ’81 Trans Am. The car’s in Holden. The police chi- And they said they were gonna confiscate the car because it had Kansas tags on it, that they wanted to go through the car da. The police chief changed the ignition and was driving that car for his personal car. It cost my buddy, because it was a friend of mine, T- Ronnie M- Ron McGee, it was his car. It cost him $10,000 and an attorney to get his car back from them. So bottom line, every time we [00:39:00] went to court, several ti- my lawyer would say, “I’d like to call Officer Gary Jenkins up.” Gary Jenkins is not on the force anymore. He moved to Arizona.” “I’d like to call so-and-so up next time we go in.” He’s not here anymore. He moved to wherever.” So all the money and all the guns and all the drugs, they split it up and no, nobody ever… So the thing was so dirty. So what happens is we’d been going to court for that seven months, And then I become a Christian. I walk into his offi- and we’re adamant, we’re not plea bargain. We don’t want separate lawyers. We want you two guys to represent us. We’re gonna beat this thing. And, oh, and I told, because when that guy gave that 20-page statement after he got out of the hospital, this was a month later or something, he called us all in. We went in. He sh- hands each one of us 20-page statement. He said, “Guys, let me tell you something. I’m defending you on an assault with intent to kill charge. I’m gonna get that reduced, but if you get busted [00:40:00] dealing cocaine, you’ve got to stop dealing cocaine, ’cause if you get busted dealing cocaine while I’m on this case, it’s gonna complicate the case.” Yeah. “You gotta stop.” And I said, “Mike, I don’t tell you how to practice law, and you don’t tell me how to make money. You just keep doing what you do, and I’ll keep doing what I do, and I’ll keep bringing you money.” And he never said another word. Three or four months later, I become a Christian. I walk into his office by myself. And when I walked in the door, he said, “What happened to you?” If you look at that book on the picture of my, on the back of my book, that was four months before I became a Christian. And the Bible says the eyes are the windows of the soul. I had a very dark soul. Yeah, I can see. I had a very dark soul. Yeah. And so he goes, “What happened to you?” And I said, “What do you mean?” And he said, “You don’t look the same.” And I said, “I’m not the same.” And I told him what happened. And he said… And I said, “We’ve got a problem.” And he goes, “What’s our [00:41:00] problem, Bill?” I said, “I can’t lie anymore.” He said, “You’re right. We’ve got a problem.” ‘Cause we’d been lying for seven months. We told… He knew the story. He said, “I just need to know this. I’ll defend you guys. I’ll beat this case, but I need to know.” So we told… And at this point now, seven months later, he said, “There’s no way out of this thing. You guys are going to prison.” He said, “I can help you figure out a way to get to the good prison, but you’re going to prison.” So when I go in that day and he goes, “What’s wrong? What what happened?” And I told him, and he said, “You don’t look the same.” I said, “I’m not the same.” I said, “We got a problem.” He goes, “What?” I said, “We can’t lie. I can’t lie anymore.” And he said I’ve got an idea.” And I said, “What?” He said if I enter a plea bargain, I think we can do this.” And he said, “You guys won’t go to prison.” And he said, “Talk to Mike and Charlie and see what they say.” So I called them. We went down, met with him. And this time they looked at me and said, “What do you think we should do, Bill?” [00:42:00] I said, “I think we ought to take the plea bargain.” We got five years’ probation and a $5,000 fine. Now, the crazy thing- that was on the assault. Yeah, they- That was on the assault. But you still got a cocaine case out here pending with the feds. No. No. No. That, if, that, that- 20-page statement that implicated me was never, he never got it out of his office. It never went out of Fitzgerald’s office. So it, he didn’t tell it to… He told it to whoever he told it to, but to the police, and the police were all crooks anyway . Yeah. So I don’t know who he told. I just know that our lawyer said if this cocaine thing comes up, it’s gonna complicate our case. It never came up. Oh. And so maybe it was the mercy of God, I don’t know. Because it was a 20-page typewritten statement naming judges, Kenny Weld, all these guys, and all these people started falling after that. And so anyway, we ended up getting a $5,000 fine and five-year probation. Now, the crazy thing, if you read my book, Charlie and Mike both went, they got called and they [00:43:00] went and reported. I never got a call. 13 months later, I had a nephew getting married up in in Wisconsin, and I wanted to go to that wedding, and I knew I couldn’t leave without permission, but I didn’t have anybody to ask permission from. And when that guy sued me, G- Gary, when that guy sued me and I went and got the lawyer that I told you I went and got, I said, “By the way…” He said, “I wanna take this case.” I said, “Great.” I said, “By the way, I got arrested September 5th of ’82. The case ended in May. I was placed on five-year probation, a $5,000 fine. I’ve never heard from anybody. What do you think I sh- should do?” He said, “Bill, you need to write a letter.” And I put the letter in the book. I wrote a letter and said da. I’d like to be supervised. Please contact me.” 13 months, and they, within two days they were knocking on my front door. And that’s when I started reporting. And Kay King was my first pr- [00:44:00] probation officer, and she asked me all the whole story, and I had sat with her for two hours and told her the whole story. She asked me how many drugs I did, what I did. I said, “I’ve done everything there is, from, marijuana to heroin to… I’ve done it all.” And I did massive amounts of everything. And I was drinking two quarts of whiskey at the end every day. And people are like, “You can’t drink two quarts of whiskey.” I said, “You never did cocaine, did you?” ‘Cause when you’re doing, ’cause when you’re doing cocaine, you can’t get drunk. And so anyway that… And I asked her when I left her office, I said, “So does my probation start now, or does it start back then?” She said, “No, Bill, it starts today.” Oh, really? I said- Wow. I said, “For 13 months I’ve been going to churches and schools and telling people how bad drugs are and how bad alcohol is and how bad this is.” And I said, “I’ve not had a traffic ticket. I haven’t had a traffic ticket.” The only ticket I’ve got in the last 43 years, I had a bad car wreck where I got T-boned at 70 miles an [00:45:00] hour. I pulled out in front of a guy. It was my fault. And that’s the only ticket I’ve had in 43 years. I haven’t been stopped by the police. And she said, “I’m sorry, Bill, it starts today.” Guess what? I did the whole five year. I went from then, I got off in ’89 or something, I th- it was almost five years I did. My partners, they only did a year and a half, and they let them off. And they were still dealing cocaine. They were still dealing. They were still dealing. Matter of fact, one of them’s brother his mama died, and the funeral was at Passantino Brothers over there on the avenue. And I went to the funeral, and I was sorry, and we were hugging. And me and him sat down and were talking, and he had a little leather Gucci bag. And he said, “Hey, I’m go- now listen.” He said, “I’m going to the bathroom. You wanna go with me?” I said, “No, brother.” Yeah. And I got up and left. He wanted to go do some cocaine. Damn. And that was years after, he’d been… Anyway. Yeah. But I’m glad I had to do the whole five years because I got to speak [00:46:00] in some… She called me once and said, “I got a friend that teaches a criminal justice class at a college, and they’ve had detectives and they’ve had police officers, they’ve had lawyers, they’ve had parole officers, but they’ve never had a criminal. Would you come and speak?” And I said, “I’d be glad to.” And I f- and then I called the professor and I said, “I’ve been asked to come.” And he said, “Yeah, we’re looking forward.” And I said I have to tell you one thing. I cannot come in there and speak and not tell your class that my life was radically changed April 15th, 1983, when I came into encounter with God through his son, Jesus Christ.” He said, “That’s okay.” And I went and told them, so I was glad I got to stay on parole for five years. So- So Bill what are you doing now? I know you- I’m just- you’ve got a prison ministry. Do you speak- Yeah … at prisons and, and- That’s all I do, Garrett. 40 years just- How does one get into that? Do you have an agent that booked you into different prisons- No … or how does that work? No. No. I started going in 1986 with [00:47:00] a guy named Bill Glass, who was a NFL player. Played for the Cleveland Browns. He was an All-Pro. Actually started… He got, he retired from football in 1968, so that’s how old he was. Started the ministry in ’72, and was the biggest prison ministry in the nation, had 30,000 volunteers. And I started going in as just a volunteer, and then he asked me to be a platform speaker, and I was a platform speaker for him for 30 years. And went to, I’ve been in over 500 different prisons in my life, and I do prisons almost every day, a prison or a jail almost every day. We’re getting ready to do, this will be our 17th car show up at Crossroads in Cameron, and this will be the biggest car show ever in a US prison, in history. Last year was the biggest. We had 80 cars last year, but this year we’re planning on- by car sh- car show, what do you mean? Like guys bring their classic cars up and…? And drive them in on the prison yard. Oh, wow. And the inmates get to come out, walk around and look at them. And last year we had 80 cars and bikes. [00:48:00] This year we’re gonna have 250 motorcycles and cars. Wow. And we’re gonna feed 2,000 people. We’ve got… W- we’re gonna have 2,000 meals that day for the inmates and the staff, all the staff. So that’s what I’ve been doing for all these years, and will keep doing it as long as I can, wow. But as far as… I was gonna ask you about old Joey Rags. I knew Joe Ragusa. Did you ever deal with that guy? Did you? Not directly. I followed him a lot and almo- we almost caught him too, in a hit one time. And then they saw us and they had boogied on out. But I know one story- That would have been a- … about him. He was, He needed to go… I heard this later. He needed to go to a meeting downtown, down to City Market with the other mob guys, ’cause, he was right next to Charlie Martina, and he went on several hits with these guys during the Spiro-Savella war. So he’s out at the plumbing place where he was working, so he… Guy comes in- Where was he at? Was he at St. John Plumbing? I don’t remember the name of it. It was over there by N- Jackson, Ninth and Jackson, or Truman and Jackson, somewhere over there [00:49:00] on the east side. I can’t remember the name of it now. And so he need… said… told this guy, he said, “Hey,” he said, “I need to go down to the market.” He said, “Can you give me a ride down there?” And the guy said you got your car here.” He said no, you give me a ride.” So he gets in, lays down in the back seat. So the guy takes him down there, then he gets out. No, he was a real deal. Boy, that old market was something, wasn’t it? Yeah. That old City Market. Oh, man. Yeah, heard mob guys out there. Yeah they had a pretty big… Hey, what about, I was gonna ask you about a couple guys that were big heroin kingpins, Sam Haley and Aaron Gant. Was you involved when they were really big in Kansas City? Y- I was a young policeman, ’72, ’73, ’74, and Aaron Gant and Sam Haley were like the big ducks. And they had this war going between the two little heroin organizations. And Gant was, he was in with some guys, and Aaron Gant called him Junebug. He was in with the God, there was a whole family, the Denmans. He was in with [00:50:00] these guys. And so they… And Sam Haley was… I never did understand the difference, but they had two different organizations and they hated each other is my understanding. Oh, they did. Yeah. How about Ramseys? Did you know who the Ramseys were? I don’t see. The Ramsey brothers? I remember that na- Huh? I know that name. I think one of those crime families that, that stole- they were- … money in the neighborhood and- They were the- … everyone else … they were killers, all of them. Yeah. I think there was eight boys, and at one time seven or eight of them were in Missouri for murder. And I was seeing… I was in Potosi. And Rambo, R- Roy Rambo Ramsey they called him, and he’s the one that they got a… Remember when the la- what’d they call them that you put on the roof of your car? Oh, Landau top. Landau top, yeah. Yeah. That wasn’t the word I’m looking for, though. Whatever it was, th- you could have them tops put on. Yeah. They got one put on in a poster shop over on Prospect. Oh. And [00:51:00] when they called and said, “Your car’s ready,” they went up there and killed everybody in the shop and took their car and left. And then they went out to Belton or Grandview, and there was an old couple that had a bunch of old coins and stuff, and they knew one of the people. They knew one of the brothers, and I think it was Roy. And they went out there and knocked on the door, and of course, they let them in. They told their girlfriend to stay in the car, and they went in and they shot them They were 65 and 66 years old. The little old lady was 65 and the old man was… They shot each one of them three times, and just for a few dollars worth of coins, man. They were murderers. They were killers. But I was up in Potosi and Roy asked me, he said, “Would you go see my dad?” And I was… I said… He said, “He’s in a nursing home.” And Gary, his father, was a hardworking man, had never committed a crime in his life, and he was in this nursing home. And I went and saw him and prayed for him and stuff. But here are these… He [00:52:00] had these eight sons that were murderers. They were killers. And the old man was in a nursing home dying. And, Roy asked me if I’d go see him, so I went and saw him, prayed for him. But yeah, they were something else, them guys. Interesting. You you mentioned Sam Haley. There w- we had, here just in your area, was a guy named Michael Cantu, who used to be a fire captain. Had… Was a, a big time cocaine dealer. During those years, he got into- Yeah … cocaine. He and his brother Joe and Joe Maggio, and they had a cocaine deal going, and he got back out. He had a body shop over on Independence Avenue, and two Black guys came in and executed him, basically. Left the employee there. There wasn’t anything to steal, and executed him. And the drawings, one of them we… There was a lot of speculation it looked like Sam Haley. So I think he was- Might’ve been … I think he was supplying Black dealers with cocaine I believe. I saw him meeting with some guys once that that- Yeah, they were- … I didn’t know who they were, but they all looked like Black cocaine dealers they were killers, all them guys. Haley and Gant and those guys. Did you, I asked you about, Yeah, heavy idea. [00:53:00] I- here’s a question. I just got an inquiry from one of Gant’s relatives of… They were wanting to know more about Aaron Gant getting killed. See, he got out of the joint. He went to Missouri State Penitentiary, I think it was for drugs. Yep. And he went to a club that night, and somebody walked in, was walked in, shot him, and walked out right away. Another Black dude. So this relative was asking me if I knew any more about it. I didn’t know any more about it. You remember that deal at all? I don’t remember that. Okay. I di- I actually, I was thinking that Aaron Gant and Sam Haley had been dead for years, but, that was- this was years ago. This was quite a while ago. Okay. This was probably- Yeah, I thought he might have died in prison or something, ’cause I knew they both had a lot of time. They did a lot of- Yeah … time in Missouri. Yeah. Yeah, they did. So did you- But they were kingpins. Their names are really well-known, feared names on the East Side in Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Really feared names. Absolutely. Did you ever go around Vic Fontana’s place when he opened up Fanny’s? Oh, yeah. I went in and out of several. He had several different places. He had Fanny’s. [00:54:00] He had one down on the Southwest Trafficway a little bit after your time, I think oh, God, I forgot the name of it. But yeah, the, all the mob guys went into his joints. He was mob friendly. Yeah. I was really s- I met him when he had when he had the one up on Main next to Butch’s, next to Mother’s. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had that place yeah what was, Walter Midy. Must have been Walter Midy’s. Walter Midy. Yeah, that’s where I met Vic. And then I actually plumbed that Fanny’s when he opened up Fa

Si creías que las Cruzadas ya estaban mal, espérate. De la Tercera a la Octava hay de todo — Ricardo Corazón de León peleando contra Saladino, una cruzada donde mandaron niños al frente de guerra, y el momento más absurdo de toda la historia: cruzados saqueando una ciudad cristiana. En este episodio te contamos cómo todo se fue derrumbando cruzada por cruzada hasta que ya no quedó nada que salvar.

Todo cambió cuando cayó Edesa. Ese momento fue la señal de que las Cruzadas no iban tan bien como todos querían creer — y lo que vino después fue peor. La caída de Edesa no fue solo la pérdida de un territorio, fue el golpe que dejó en claro que el proyecto cruzado tenía un problema enorme: del otro lado había alguien que los superaba en estrategia, en liderazgo y en visión.En este episodio te contamos cómo la caída de Edesa encendió la Segunda Cruzada, qué errores cometieron los cruzados desde el principio y cómo un hombre llamado Saladino se convirtió en el dolor de cabeza más grande que el mundo cristiano jamás tuvo. Un líder que no solo ganaba batallas — ganaba con una inteligencia y un honor que sus propios enemigos terminaron admirando.Si crees que las Cruzadas fueron solo guerras de religión, este episodio te va a mostrar que había mucho más detrás — política, traiciones, ambición y personajes que no tienen nada que envidiarle a cualquier serie de televisión.#LasCruzadas #Saladino #HistoriaMedieval #Edesa #HistoriaUniversal #Cruzadas #HistoriaEnEspañol #Medievo #GuerrasSantas #Podcast

Patrick Bet-David and Dr Paul Saladino walk through the timeline of modern “quick fix” breakthroughs, from the birth control pill and breast implants to Viagra, GLP‑1 weight loss drugs and the explosion of Botox. Saladino argues the real frontier now is peptides, including GLP‑1s and growth‑related compounds, which can deliver dramatic short term changes but come with poorly understood long term tradeoffs for hormones, muscle, fertility and aging.

Welcome to MCTV's Community Voices Podcast. Sandy O'Keefe presents this episode of The Spark with Junia Doan and Junia's guest, Graham Saladino. For more information about Midland Community Television or how to make your program, visit us at ⁠⁠cityofmidlandmi.gov/mctv⁠⁠ or 989-837-3474. The views expressed in this program don't necessarily reflect those of Midland Community Television or the City of Midland.

Megyn Kelly discusses how Israel's temporary ceasefire with Lebanon set the stage for Iran announcing the Strait of Hormuz is reopening, what this signals about potential long-term de-escalation in the region, President Trump needing to chastise Israel publicly, some GOP members of the House siding with Democrats to keep temporary protected status for Haitian migrants, why it's betrayal of Trump's immigration agenda, Gavin Newsom's fake tears on camera, the truth about his inflated book sales driven by bulk purchases tied to donations, and more. Then Dr. Paul Saladino, founder of Lineage Provisions & Heart and Soil, and Mark Sisson, founder of Peluva, join to discuss the truth about cholesterol and how it relates to metabolic health, the truth about whether we should eat a lot of vegetables, the way to balance red meat and other proteins, why what we were told about carbs and protein for decades is wrong, how overconsumption of carbohydrates impacts fat storage and energy, the true problem with sugar, why sprinting is essential for building strength and longevity, the truth about microplastics and detoxing, why foot health is often overlooked but very important, how modern footwear has contributed to long-term issues in the body, and more.   Saladino- https://www.paulsaladinomd.com/ Sisson- www.peluva.com   Supersure Insurance: Simplify your business insurance and get a free coverage report at https://Supersure.com/Megyn Relief Factor: Break up with pain—Relief Factor targets inflammation so you can move better and feel better; try the 3-Week QuickStart for just $19.95 at https://ReliefFactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF. Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com Dose: Support your liver and daily energy with Dose for Your Liver—get 35% off your first month at https://dosedaily.co/MK or use code MK at checkout.     Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKelly Twitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShow Instagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShow Facebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow  Find out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jaume Segalés y su equipo comentan asuntos de la actualidad y traen las mejores recomendaciones culturales. Hoy en Km0, tras repasar la actualidad informativa y deportiva, profundizamos en los siguientes asuntos: La Porteña Tango y Cine clásico: 'El Talismán' La Porteña Tango El martes 14 de abril, el Teatro Alcázar (c/ Alcalá, 20) acoge el estreno absoluto de ‘Así se baila el Tango', la nueva propuesta de La Porteña Tango con la que la formación argentina rinde homenaje a los grandes clásicos del género combinando sobre el escenario música y canto en vivo, poesía y danza. Se trata de un conjunto absolutamente consagrado, con 18 años de trayectoria artística y más de 900 conciertos en escenarios de 23 países a lo largo de cuatro continentes. Con este espectáculo, La Porteña Tango nos propone todo un viaje por las canciones imprescindibles de artistas clave como Carlos Gardel, Enrique Santos Discépolo o Astor Piazzolla. Sobre las tablas, el bandoneón, el piano y la guitarra dialogan con la voz solista y las coreografías, respetando la esencia del tango tradicional sin renunciar a una puesta en escena actual. Entrevistamos al fundador, director artístico y guitarrista de la formación de La Porteña Tango, Alejandro Picciano. Sección de cine clásico "Es sesión continua" Antolín de la Torre hoy nos habla sobre 'El Talismán' (King Richard and the Crusaders). Dirigida por David Butler y estrenada en 1954, esta adaptación de la novela de Sir Walter Scott es una de las producciones de la "Edad de Oro de Hollywood" enmarcadas en el género de aventuras épicas y caballerescas. La película contó con grandes nombres de la época: Rex Harrison como Saladino, Virginia Mayo en el papel Lady Edith y George Sanders interpretando al Rey Ricardo. La película se basa en la novela de 1825 'The Talisman', que influyó en la visión romántica de las figuras de Ricardo Corazón de León y Saladino en la cultura popular occidental, fijando su imagen como rivales que se respetaban profundamente.

En este nuevo programa de Antena Historia, nos sumergimos en el corazón de la Edad Media para analizar el conflicto más legendario de las Cruzadas. Tras la caída de Jerusalén en manos de Saladino tras la batalla de Hattin, la Cristiandad responde con una movilización sin precedentes liderada por las tres figuras más poderosas de Europa. Analizamos en profundidad la figura de Ricardo Corazón de León, cuya audacia militar definió el conflicto; el pragmatismo político de Felipe Augusto de Francia; y el trágico destino del emperador Federico Barbarroja en las aguas del río Salef. ¿Qué vas a descubrir en este audio? Geopolítica Medieval: Las tensiones internas entre los monarcas europeos y sus consecuencias en el Levante. Grandes Batallas: El asedio de Acre y la victoria táctica en la batalla de Arsuf. Diplomacia y Honor: Los fascinantes intercambios y el mutuo respeto entre Ricardo y Saladino. El Desenlace: Los términos del Tratado de Ramla y por qué Jerusalén permaneció bajo control musulmán. Un análisis con el rigor habitual, huyendo de los mitos románticos para comprender la logística, la estrategia y el impacto real de esta "Cruzada de los Reyes". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 🎧 Antena Historia te regala 30 días PREMIUM Disfruta de todo el contenido sin interrupciones y con ventajas exclusivas en iVoox: 👉 https://www.ivoox.com/premium?affiliate-code=b4688a50868967db9ca413741a54cea5 📻 Producción y realización: Antonio Cruz 🎙️ Edición: Antena Historia 📡 Antena Historia forma parte del sello iVoox Originals 🌐 Visita nuestra web: https://antenahistoria.com 📺 YouTube: Podcast Antena Historia 📧 Correo: antenahistoria@gmail.com 📘 Facebook: Antena Historia Podcast 🐦 Twitter: @AntenaHistoria 💬 Telegram: https://t.me/foroantenahistoria 💰 Apoya el proyecto: Donaciones en PayPal 📢 ¿Quieres anunciarte en Antena Historia? Ofrecemos menciones, cuñas personalizadas y programas a medida. Más información en 👉 Antena Historia – AdVoices

Sancho Martín, conocido en las crónicas medievales como el Caballero Verde. Participó en la Tercera Cruzada y destacó durante el asedio de Tiro (1187-1188) contra el ejército de Saladino, después de la caída de Jerusalén. Su distintiva armadura y capa verdes le valieron un apodo temido por musulmanes y admirado por cristianos. En las fuentes se le menciona liderando cargas que reforzaron la defensa de la ciudad y rechazando ofertas de Saladino para cambiar de bando. Su figura, poco documentada fuera de estas crónicas, simboliza la proyección de la caballería hispánica en los grandes conflictos de su tiempo. Y descubre más historias curiosas en el canal National Geographic y en Disney+. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Coronado siendo apenas un adolescente, Balduino IV de Jerusalén gobernó marcado por la lepra y por el destino incierto de los Estados cruzados. Incapaz de empuñar la espada en sus últimos años, dirigió estrategias brillantes frente al avance de Saladino y logró una victoria asombrosa en Montgisard con un ejército muy inferior. Su enfermedad, interpretada por algunos como castigo divino, no eclipsó su capacidad política ni su determinación. Entre fe, guerra y sufrimiento, su figura encarna la fragilidad y la épica de las Cruzadas. Y Disfruta de más historias curiosas en el canal National Geographic y en Disney+. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

En este nuevo programa de Antena Historia, nos sumergimos en el corazón de la Edad Media para analizar el conflicto más legendario de las Cruzadas. Tras la caída de Jerusalén en manos de Saladino tras la batalla de Hattin, la Cristiandad responde con una movilización sin precedentes liderada por las tres figuras más poderosas de Europa. Analizamos en profundidad la figura de Ricardo Corazón de León, cuya audacia militar definió el conflicto; el pragmatismo político de Felipe Augusto de Francia; y el trágico destino del emperador Federico Barbarroja en las aguas del río Salef. ¿Qué vas a descubrir en este audio? Geopolítica Medieval: Las tensiones internas entre los monarcas europeos y sus consecuencias en el Levante. Grandes Batallas: El asedio de Acre y la victoria táctica en la batalla de Arsuf. Diplomacia y Honor: Los fascinantes intercambios y el mutuo respeto entre Ricardo y Saladino. El Desenlace: Los términos del Tratado de Ramla y por qué Jerusalén permaneció bajo control musulmán. Un análisis con el rigor habitual, huyendo de los mitos románticos para comprender la logística, la estrategia y el impacto real de esta "Cruzada de los Reyes". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 🎧 Antena Historia te regala 30 días PREMIUM Disfruta de todo el contenido sin interrupciones y con ventajas exclusivas en iVoox: 👉 https://www.ivoox.com/premium?affiliate-code=b4688a50868967db9ca413741a54cea5 📻 Producción y realización: Antonio Cruz 🎙️ Edición: Antena Historia 📡 Antena Historia forma parte del sello iVoox Originals 🌐 Visita nuestra web: https://antenahistoria.com 📺 YouTube: Podcast Antena Historia 📧 Correo: antenahistoria@gmail.com 📘 Facebook: Antena Historia Podcast 🐦 Twitter: @AntenaHistoria 💬 Telegram: https://t.me/foroantenahistoria 💰 Apoya el proyecto: Donaciones en PayPal 📢 ¿Quieres anunciarte en Antena Historia? Ofrecemos menciones, cuñas personalizadas y programas a medida. Más información en 👉 Antena Historia – AdVoices Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

En este nuevo programa de Antena Historia, nos sumergimos en el corazón de la Edad Media para analizar el conflicto más legendario de las Cruzadas. Tras la caída de Jerusalén en manos de Saladino tras la batalla de Hattin, la Cristiandad responde con una movilización sin precedentes liderada por las tres figuras más poderosas de Europa. Analizamos en profundidad la figura de Ricardo Corazón de León, cuya audacia militar definió el conflicto; el pragmatismo político de Felipe Augusto de Francia; y el trágico destino del emperador Federico Barbarroja en las aguas del río Salef. ¿Qué vas a descubrir en este audio? Geopolítica Medieval: Las tensiones internas entre los monarcas europeos y sus consecuencias en el Levante. Grandes Batallas: El asedio de Acre y la victoria táctica en la batalla de Arsuf. Diplomacia y Honor: Los fascinantes intercambios y el mutuo respeto entre Ricardo y Saladino. El Desenlace: Los términos del Tratado de Ramla y por qué Jerusalén permaneció bajo control musulmán. Un análisis con el rigor habitual, huyendo de los mitos románticos para comprender la logística, la estrategia y el impacto real de esta "Cruzada de los Reyes". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 🎧 Antena Historia te regala 30 días PREMIUM Disfruta de todo el contenido sin interrupciones y con ventajas exclusivas en iVoox: 👉 https://www.ivoox.com/premium?affiliate-code=b4688a50868967db9ca413741a54cea5 📻 Producción y realización: Antonio Cruz 🎙️ Edición: Antena Historia 📡 Antena Historia forma parte del sello iVoox Originals 🌐 Visita nuestra web: https://antenahistoria.com 📺 YouTube: Podcast Antena Historia 📧 Correo: antenahistoria@gmail.com 📘 Facebook: Antena Historia Podcast 🐦 Twitter: @AntenaHistoria 💬 Telegram: https://t.me/foroantenahistoria 💰 Apoya el proyecto: Donaciones en PayPal 📢 ¿Quieres anunciarte en Antena Historia? Ofrecemos menciones, cuñas personalizadas y programas a medida. Más información en 👉 Antena Historia – AdVoices Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

Agradece a este podcast tantas horas de entretenimiento y disfruta de episodios exclusivos como éste. ¡Apóyale en iVoox! En el tablero de ajedrez que era el Outremer del siglo XII, donde la fe y la espada dictaban el destino de los hombres, surgió un monarca cuya vida fue una carrera contra el tiempo y la propia carne. Balduino IV, el joven heredero de la casa de Anjou, ascendió al trono de Jerusalén con una sentencia de muerte grabada en su piel: la lepra. En este episodio de Antena Historia, nos adentramos en la trágica y heroica biografía de un rey que, a pesar de ver cómo su cuerpo se desmoronaba día tras día, mantuvo la corona con una firmeza que asombró a amigos y enemigos. No fue un rey de paja; fue el soberano que, con apenas 16 años y un brazo inutilizado, lideró una carga de caballería que aplastó al mismísimo Saladino en la Batalla de Montgisard. ¿Qué exploraremos en este programa? La Infancia del Príncipe: El descubrimiento de la enfermedad por su tutor, el historiador Guillermo de Tiro. Montgisard, el Milagro en la Arena: El análisis táctico de la mayor derrota de Saladino y el ascenso del mito de Balduino. Una Corte en Llamas: Las intrigas dinásticas, los enfrentamientos entre Guy de Lusignan y Raimundo de Trípoli, y la lucha por una sucesión imposible. La Máscara de Plata: Entre la realidad histórica y la leyenda romántica, ¿cómo logró un hombre moribundo sostener un reino rodeado de enemigos? Acompáñanos en un relato donde la fragilidad humana se cruza con la voluntad de hierro. Es la crónica de un rey que, mientras perdía sus miembros, nunca perdió su autoridad, y cuyo último suspiro marcó el principio del fin para la Jerusalén cruzada. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🎧 Antena Historia te regala 30 días PREMIUM Disfruta de todo el contenido sin interrupciones y con ventajas exclusivas en iVoox: 👉 https://www.ivoox.com/premium?affiliate-code=b4688a50868967db9ca413741a54cea5 📻 Producción y realización: Antonio Cruz 🎙️ Edición: Antena Historia 📡 Antena Historia forma parte del sello iVoox Originals 🌐 Visita nuestra web: https://antenahistoria.com 📺 YouTube: Podcast Antena Historia 📧 Correo: antenahistoria@gmail.com 📘 Facebook: Antena Historia Podcast 🐦 Twitter: @AntenaHistoria 💬 Telegram: https://t.me/foroantenahistoria 💰 Apoya el proyecto: Donaciones en PayPal 📢 ¿Quieres anunciarte en Antena Historia? Ofrecemos menciones, cuñas personalizadas y programas a medida. Más información en 👉 Antena Historia – AdVoices Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

Agradece a este podcast tantas horas de entretenimiento y disfruta de episodios exclusivos como éste. ¡Apóyale en iVoox! En el corazón del siglo XII, entre el fragor del acero y el polvo de las arenas de Levante, emergió una figura que trascendería su propio tiempo para convertirse en leyenda: Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub, conocido en Occidente como Saladino. Este programa no es solo un repaso a sus conquistas militares; es una inmersión profunda en la psique de un líder que logró lo impensable: unificar bajo una misma bandera a las facciones desunidas del Islam para recuperar la Ciudad Santa. Desde la aplastante victoria en los Cuernos de Hattin hasta su compleja relación de respeto mutuo con Ricardo Corazón de León, analizamos la dualidad de un hombre que fue, a la vez, un guerrero implacable y un ejemplo de caballerosidad y clemencia. ¿Qué encontrarás en este episodio? Contexto Geopolítico: El estado de los Reinos Latinos de Ultramar antes del colapso. La Forja del Líder: Cómo un joven de origen kurdo llegó a convertirse en el primer sultán de Egipto y Siria. Hattin y Jerusalén: Crónica de la campaña que cambió el mapa de la cristiandad. Legado y Mito: ¿Fue Saladino tan noble como lo pintaron las crónicas posteriores o una hábil construcción política? Acompáñanos en este recorrido narrativo por las cruzadas, donde la historia se cuenta con el rigor de los hechos y la épica de los grandes relatos. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🎧 Antena Historia te regala 30 días PREMIUM Disfruta de todo el contenido sin interrupciones y con ventajas exclusivas en iVoox: 👉 https://www.ivoox.com/premium?affiliate-code=b4688a50868967db9ca413741a54cea5 📻 Producción y realización: Antonio Cruz 🎙️ Edición: Antena Historia 📡 Antena Historia forma parte del sello iVoox Originals 🌐 Visita nuestra web: https://antenahistoria.com 📺 YouTube: Podcast Antena Historia 📧 Correo: antenahistoria@gmail.com 📘 Facebook: Antena Historia Podcast 🐦 Twitter: @AntenaHistoria 💬 Telegram: https://t.me/foroantenahistoria 💰 Apoya el proyecto: Donaciones en PayPal 📢 ¿Quieres anunciarte en Antena Historia? Ofrecemos menciones, cuñas personalizadas y programas a medida. Más información en 👉 Antena Historia – AdVoices Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

Apply to work with us: https://drjoeymunoz.com/vsl-page Download my FREE Nutrition for Fat Loss eBook:  https://drjoeymunoz.com/blueprint Follow Don Saladino:https://www.instagram.com/donsaladino/ In this episode, I sit down with renowned performance coach Don Saladino to talk about what it really takes to build success, both in fitness and in business. Don shares the story of how he got started in the industry, from a young athlete dealing with hearing and speech challenges to building multiple training businesses and working with some of the biggest names in Hollywood. Along the way, we dive into the realities behind entrepreneurship, the setbacks that shaped his career, and why resilience is often the most important skill you can develop.  We also explore how success in one area of life doesn't always translate into success with health and fitness. Don explains why even highly driven professionals can struggle with consistency when it comes to training, and how identifying your own behavioral patterns can make a huge difference in long-term progress. The conversation goes beyond workouts and nutrition. We talk about parenting, leading by example with your health, and how habits around fitness can influence the people around you, especially your family. We also discuss the evolution of the fitness industry, the rise of social media education, and why applying knowledge in the real world matters far more than simply repeating what the science says. This episode is a deep conversation about discipline, responsibility, and building a life that aligns with your values, both inside and outside the gym. If you're interested in fitness, entrepreneurship, and the mindset required to stay consistent over the long term, this is a conversation you won't want to miss.

Supervisor Saladino updates Roger & JP on how TOBAY is handling the storm

The supervisor gives us the update on the conditions in the Town Of Oyster Bay

In this week's episode I sit down with celebrity trainer Don Saladino who's worked with Ryan Reynolds Hugh Jackman and other A-list names. We talk about what it really takes to build a career in coaching that actually lasts and the things most coaches miss when it comes to standards service and growing a business that works.

En el Siglo séptimo de nuestra era amaneció en la península arábiga un nuevo tiempo y un nuevo mundo, que se extendería con rapidez hacia el este por todo el creciente fértil y hacia el oeste por el norte de África y la península Ibérica. Bajo la media luna del Islam y unidos bajo la misma lengua, el Imperio Árabe transformó las sociedades de un inmenso territorio para siempre. La huella del profeta inició una historia de desarrollo cultural llena de luces, pero también de luchas territoriales y religiosas de poder en el otro lado de la moneda. Hoy en El Abrazo del Oso iniciamos con este podcast un nuevo viaje de nuestra serie imperial, junto a Francisco José García, para hacer un amplio repaso a cerca de 12 siglos de historia del Imperio y de los pueblos árabes, partiendo de la Arabia de Mahoma para escuchar el relato de episodios como el de Saladino, los Abásidas, los Omeyas de Córdoba, los califas de Bagdad o el Imperio Otomano; hasta llegar a los albores de los Siglos XIX y XX desde donde, sí, esperamos hacer otro audio para dar continuidad a esta serie. Preparamos los pertrechos, y sobre todo nuestros camellos, para esta difícil travesía por el desierto de Arabia. Episodio remasterizado el 9 de noviembre de 2025. Emitido originalmente el 13 de enero de 2019. Accede a más contenidos extra y haz posible la producción de El Abrazo del Oso pinchando en el botón 'apoyar' aquí en iVoox. O pásate por www.patreon.com/elabrazodeloso ¡GRACIAS! www.elabrazodeloso.es www.latostadora.com/elabrazodeloso Canal de Telegram para estar informado: https://t.me/+T6RxUKg_xhk0NzE0 Grupo abierto de Telegram para conversar con el equipo y la audiencia: https://t.me/+tBHrUSWNbZswNThk Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/elabrazodeloso ¿Quieres patrocinar este podcast?: https://advoices.com/el-abrazo-del-oso-podcast Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

Don is best known for training actors like Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, John Krasinski, Sebastian Stan, Blake Lively, and Emily Blunt for some of the most significant blockbuster roles of the last two decades. He opened his first gym, Drive 495, in New York City 2005. He later transitioned into building a global online fitness business, coaching tens of thousands of people worldwide through digital programs, live coaching, and speaking events. His work has been featured in Muscle & Fitness, Men's Health, Women's Health, People, Cosmopolitan, WebMD, and on The Today Show, Page Six TV, and E! News. He's a two-time Muscle & Fitness cover athlete and sits on the advisory board of Men's Health Magazine. Connect with Don Website: https://www.donsaladino.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donsaladino YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DonSaladino Podcast: Stronger with Don Saladino (available on Amazon Music, Spotify, Apple Podcasts) Newsletter: Signup at DonSaladino.com for training programs & updates   Become an elitefts Channel Member Get early access to Dave Tate's Table Talk Podcast and other exclusive perks. @eliteftsofficial Support Dave Tate's Table Talk FULL Crew Access: https://www.elitefts.com/join-the-crew Limited Edition Apparel: https://www.elitefts.com/shop/apparel/limited-edition.html Programs & More: https://www.elitefts.com/shop/dave-tate-s-table-talk-crew.html TYAO Application: https://www.elitefts.com/dave-tate-s-tyao-application Best-Selling elitefts Products Pro Resistance Training Bands: https://www.elitefts.com/shop/bands.html Specialty Barbells: https://www.elitefts.com/shop/bars-weights/specialty-bars.html Wraps, Straps, Sleeves: https://www.elitefts.com/shop/power-gear.html Sponsors Get an extra 10% OFF at elitefts (CODE: TABLE TALK): https://www.elitefts.com/ Get 10% OFF Marek Health Labs (CODE: TABLETALK): https://marekhealth.com/ Get a free 8-count Sample Pack of LMNT: https://partners.drinklmnt.com/free-g Get 10% OFF Granite Nutrition (CODE: TABLETALK): https://granitenutrition.com/ Support Massenomics: https://www.massenomics.com/ Save 20% on MASS Research Review (CODE: ELITEFTS20): https://massresearchreview.com/ Get 10% OFF RP Hypertrophy App (CODE: TABLE TALK): https://go.rpstrength.com/hypertrophy

Introducing Dr. Nash Jocic, PhD — a rare blend of scholar, athlete, and author whose life bridges the worlds of philosophy and muscle. With a doctorate in philosophy from the University of Lincoln, Dr. Jocic has published academic work on Nietzsche's aesthetics and ethics, exploring how ideas of beauty, meaning, and moral purpose intersect. Yet his intellectual credentials are only one facet of his identity. For over 30 years, Dr. Jocic has been deeply embedded in the world of fitness and bodybuilding. He's competed in numerous bodybuilding events, earning a reputation for transforming his own physique and coaching others to do the same. Through his company NashFit Personal Training, he's coached clients across London and beyond, blending scientific precision with decades of hands-on experience. As an author, Dr. Jocic has produced several books and guides aimed at practical transformation. Titles include Burn Fat Build Muscle and Weight Training for Men: The Ultimate Guide to Muscle Growth and Fat Loss. His writing brings together his philosophical rigour and training wisdom, offering readers grounded, research-informed strategies for body recomposition and long-term health.  In this episode, we'll dive into how Dr. Jocic merges his philosophical mindset with decades of physical discipline, uncovering lessons not just about lifting and nutrition — but about identity, mindset, and sustainable transformation.   If you liked this and want to learn more go to my new website www.DrAnthonyChaffee.com

There is a weird trend now arguing that you should go low fat on a carnivore diet, because wild animals can be lean and therefore our ancestors would have only eaten lean meat on a carnivore diet. this is demonstrably false, and unsafe, for many reasons, as explained in this video. (My video "Is Ketosis Harmful?" https://youtu.be/nJyUQmRc1q8?si=r2IngkzpwxEqkCFv ) What we seem to see are people who may not be doing a full carnivore diet, just fatty meat and water, and will include quite a lot of dairy such as milk or cheese, yogurt etc I may even include artificial sweeteners, which absolutely will Elevate insulin the fat storage hormone. People do this and they tend to gain weight or can't lose the weight they want to lose, and they get convinced that this is because they are eating too much fat, even though eating high-fat carnivore actually improved their health, nutrition, society, and help with weight loss earlier on before they added in the dairy and the artificial sweeteners. Once they lower the fat, they start to get the majority of their calories from protein and can start getting very unwell from low-grade protein poisoning. this may lose some weight, as an early sign of protein poisoning is rapid weight loss, but this is unhealthy weight loss. Then they might think that this is just a fact of being in ketosis so they adding carbohydrates, and because they are now getting calories from something besides protein, the protein poisoning subsides, thus confirming their own bias. So by not doing carnivore and using artificial sweeteners and/or dairy people start to gain weight or not be able to lose as much weight as they want to, so they switch to low fat hoping that will help. Then they start feeling unwell, like we do to low-grade protein poisoning and likely malnutrition from a lack of fat soluble vitamins, and so they think that carnivore didn't work for them and they start adding back in other things like carbohydrates. Then they tell others that carnivore didn't work for them and maybe it doesn't work for others as well, but the problem is that they weren't doing carnivore in the first place. Carnivore is a complete absence of anything except meat and eggs, and for some people not even eggs. If you add in a lot of dairy and / or sweeteners you will not get the same results as others, and you will likely gain weight. Fat is an essential nutrient, and our ancestors absolutely prioritize the fat, and ate the fattiest animals that they could find. #carnivore #weightloss #nutrition   If you liked this and want to learn more go to my new website www.DrAnthonyChaffee.com

Don is a coach & fitness expert known for his work with celebrities & athletes. With a passion for helping individuals achieve their best selves, he emphasizes the importance of strength training, especially as we age. He opened his first NYC Gym in 2005. After operating gyms for 15 years, he expanded to a global online fitness business. He has developed a reputation for training some of the biggest names in Hollywood. Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Chip & Joanna Gaines, Sebastian Stan, Annie Hathaway, Matt Bomer, John Krasinski, Emily Blunt, Liev Schreiber, Hugh Jackman, Drew Powell, & David Harbour are among his roster of clients. As a trusted fitness expert, Don's advice and programs have been featured in Men's Health, Women's Health, and Muscle & Fitness, as well as People, US Weekly, Origins, In Touch, Cosmopolitan, and Shape. He has demonstrated workouts and shared his training philosophy on The Today Show, Good Morning America, The Golf Channel, Page Six TV, People NOW, E! News, Fox News, and WebMD. He also serves on the advisory board for Men's Health magazine.

Anita Breeze - AKA 'KetogenicWoman' has had an incredible health journey losing over 150 lbs on keto and is now carnivore. Anita has had to deal with unspeakable loss over the last five years as well and she discusses how to stay on track. She was able to cancel her knee replacement surgery by moving to carnivore and has experienced more health benefits as well and come off of all medications! You can find Anita's globally loved recipes on her website, with numerous free handouts and cheat sheets, and on her YouTube channel with over 150K subscribers. Anita's YT Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@KetogenicWoman Anita's Website: https://www.ketogenicwoman.com   If you liked this and want to learn more go to my new website www.DrAnthonyChaffee.com

Jenny Mitich used the Carnivore Diet to lose over 50 pounds and has passed along what she learned to help thousands of people transition to the Carnivore lifestyle. She is a long-term Carnivore and full-time content creator who is passionate about helping people take charge of their metabolic health. She believes that people should know their numbers and empowers them to do so with her educational Carnivore content and engaging N of 1 experiments. Her new book Complete Carnivore will be released November 2025. Jenny resides in the Chicagoland area with her husband, Goran, and twin sons, Max and Harry. She enjoys reading, traveling the world, and devouring ribeyes. Social media links: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JennyMitich Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100053642923442 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mamamitich/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@realjennymitich Preorder Links for my book COMPLETE CARNIVORE: Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Carnivore-Achieving-Through-Meat-Based/dp/1628605766/ B&N: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/complete-carnivore-jenny-mitich/1146838850?ean=9781628605761&st=AFF&2sid=Random%20House%20Inc_8373827_NA&sourceId=AFFRandom%20House%20Inc Target: https://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=9781628605761&clkid=90438253N6c2f11eea9df03dae139e2fb&cpng=PTID1&lnm=81938&afid=Penguin%20Random%20House&ref=tgt_adv_xasd0002 For international viewers: https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Complete-Carnivore-by-Jenny-Mitich/9781628605761   If you liked this and want to learn more go to my new website www.DrAnthonyChaffee.com

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Jen Martin is the author of The Healing Compass, a book that weaves together the Enneagram, gender-based hormone insights, German New Medicine, and the carnivore diet into a simple, clean viewpoint for self-understanding and health. Drawing on years of study and personal experience, Jen, together with her husband Ian, help people see how personality, biology, and nutrition all interact in shaping our wellbeing. Through their business, ENRG, they offer personality typing, workshops, and resources that support people in navigating stress, healing, and lifestyle choices with greater clarity. Their work emphasizes accessibility, making complex frameworks easy to understand and apply in everyday life. Passionate about helping others find their bearings, Jen, together with Ian's expertise in the Enneagram created The Healing Compass as the first in a series designed to orient people to where they are, so they can choose where to go next on their health journey. Contact details: email: jen.enrg@gmail.com Website: https://enrg117.wixsite.com/enrg Amazon book link: https://amzn.asia/d/3SLgOjA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094133834594  

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Join us live with director Kerry Mann and assistant director Adam Lacy for the worldwide premiere of the Healing Humanity trailer. In this special livestream, we will talk about the upcoming documentary, share important updates on the project, and premiere the official trailer for the very first time. Healing Humanity: The Power of a Proper Human Diet is a feature-length documentary exploring how people are reclaiming their health, reversing chronic disease, and finding freedom through a proper human diet. Featuring powerful testimonies and insights from leading experts, the film challenges everything we have been told about nutrition and health. Be part of this movement. Watch live, share it with others, and help us spread a message of hope and healing to the world. Learn more and support the project: https://healinghumanity.movie/ If you liked this and want to learn more go to my new website www.DrAnthonyChaffee.com

In this compilation, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon brings together the top minds in health and fitness to deliver the ultimate guide to fat loss. Featuring the best moments with Dr. Mike Israetel, Dr. Layne Norton, and Don Saladino, this video cuts through the confusion and gives you a no-nonsense, science-backed approach to transforming your body.You'll hear from the experts on everything from the flawed science of calories to the truth about muscle, metabolism, and modern weight loss drugs like Ozempic. This is not about fads or quick fixes—it's a masterclass in building a sustainable, healthy body.Dr. Mike Israetel: The fundamental principles of diet, the reality of "under-eating," and how to manage diet fatigue.Dr. Layne Norton: The truth about flexible dieting, why calories still count, and the role of protein in weight loss.Don Saladino: How to optimize your training for fat loss, the importance of consistency, and building a stronger mindset.This is the only fat loss guide you'll ever need.Chapters0:00 - The Protein Debate Begins1:31 - Debunking the Flawed Science of Protein15:00 - The Myth of "Wasted" Protein22:42 - The Truth About the RDA & What "Deficiency" Really Means50:41 - The Problem with Plant Proteins & Caloric Cost1:05:22 - The 100-Gram Protein Tipping Point1:09:10 - Carbs vs. Protein: A Metabolic Showdown1:13:15 - How to Diagnose a Protein Deficiency1:18:13 - Final Thoughts: The Path ForwardThis episode is sponsored by:PaleoValley - Get 15% off automatically at https://paleovalley.com/DRLYONAG1 - FREE gift with your first order at https://DrinkAG1.com/DRLYONTimeline - Get 20% off your order at https://timeline.com/LYONLMNT - Free sample pack with any purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/DRLYONDisclaimer: The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Podcast and YouTube are for general information purposes only and do not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast, YouTube, or materials linked from this podcast or YouTube is at the user's own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professional for any such conditions.

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Follow Mike below: IG: www.instagram.com/metabolic_mike/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/@Highintensityhealth   If you liked this and want to learn more go to my new website www.DrAnthonyChaffee.com   ✅Join my PATREON for early releases, bonus content, and weekly Zoom meetings! https://www.patreon.com/AnthonyChaffeeMD ✅Sign up for our 30-day carnivore challenge and group here! https://www.howtocarnivore.com/ ✅Stockman Steaks, Australia Discount link for home delivered frozen grass-fed and grass finished pasture raised meat locally sourced here in Australia! Use discount code "CHAFFEE" for free gift with qualifying orders! http://www.stockmansteaks.com.au/chaffee ✅ 60-minute consultation with Dr Chaffee https://calendly.com/anthonychaffeemd/60-minute-consultation   Sponsors and Affiliates: ✅ Brand Ambassador for Stone and Spear tallow and soaps referral link https://www.stoneandspeartallow.com/?ref=gx0gql8b Discount Code "CHAFFEE" for 10% off ✅ Carnivore t-shirts from the Plant Free MD  www.plantfreetees.com ✅THE CARNIVORE BAR: Discount Code "Anthony" for 10% off all orders!   https://the-carnivore-bar.myshopify.com/?sca_ref=1743809.v3IrTuyDIi ✅Schwank Grill (Natural Gas or Propane) https://glnk.io/503n/anthonychaffeemd $150 OFF with Discount Code: ANTHONYMD ✅X3 bar system with discount code "DRCHAFFEE" https://www.kqzyfj.com/click-100676052-13511487 ✅Shop Amazon https://www.amazon.com/shop/anthonychaffeemd?ref=ac_inf_hm_vp   And please like and subscribe to my podcast here and Apple/Google podcasts, as well as my YouTube Channel to get updates on all new content, and please consider giving a 5-star rating as it really helps!   This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions.

Ever wondered why a molecule as simple as hydrogen could influence everything from Parkinson's to metabolic syndrome? We explored how molecular hydrogen selectively targets only the most harmful free radicals while leaving beneficial ones alone, making it fundamentally different from every other antioxidant supplement gathering dust in your cabinet.The six-month metabolic syndrome study particularly caught my attention: participants drinking hydrogen water saw improvements in glucose levels, HbA1c, inflammation markers, and even lost weight – with no diet changes or exercise requirements.Tyler breaks down why those expensive alkaline water machines aren't doing what you think (spoiler: it's not about pH), why hydrogen inhalation requires serious safety considerations, and exactly how to dose hydrogen water for maximum benefit.And on top of all this, we tackle why this primordial molecule – literally present since the beginning of the universe – seems almost designed to work with human biology, and why megadoses of vitamins C and E can actually harm exercise performance while hydrogen acts as a fine-tuning modulator.Timestamps:0:00 Hydrogen's effects on major diseases2:45 Six-month metabolic syndrome study results5:15 Hydrogen only targets toxic radicals6:08 Divine properties of hydrogen molecule10:12 Basic chemistry of oxidation and reduction15:30 Dangers of excessive antioxidants23:45 How hydrogen modulates antioxidant systems47:20 Hydrogen production in your gut56:30 Inhaled vs drinking hydrogen water61:15 Explosive dangers of hydrogen inhalation71:30 Therapeutic dosing for hydrogen water85:45 Debunking alkaline and structured water94:30 Tyler's elite athletic performance secretsDisclaimer:Dr. Paul Saladino received his medical degree from the University of Arizona Medical School. His use of "doctor" or "Dr." in relation to himself solely refers to that degree. Dr. Saladino is a licensed physician in California, but he no longer practices in any state and does not see patients so he can focus on educating people full time.This video is for general informational purposes only. It should not be used to self-diagnose and it is not a substitute for a medical exam, cure, treatment, diagnosis, or prescription. It does not create a doctor-patient relationship between Dr. Saladino and you. Always consult your physician before making any health decisions.

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In this compelling conversation, Psychiatrist & Health Influencer Paul Saladino advocates for the simplicity of eating real, whole foods and discusses their profound impact on chronic illness, mental health and overall well-being. At the core of this discussion is the importance of eating meat or maintaining a “carnivore” diet, something he says might not be right for everyone but is certainly beneficial for many. He details the detrimental effects of processed foods and funding-driven misinformation within the health industry. Saladino shares personal anecdotes, including the influence of his family's health issues on his career in medicine and nutritional science, his journey with vegan and carnivore diets and the adjustments in his dietary philosophy. He emphasizes the significance of metabolic health over conventional LDL-focused approaches to cardiovascular disease, touching on topics like LDL cholesterol, insulin sensitivity and the pitfalls of overreliance on statins. Additionally, he delves into his favorite forms of exercise, his thoughts on supplementation,and the impact of modern lighting (and lightbulbs) on health. The conversation wraps up with practical advice for achieving health by aligning more closely with the body's natural state and removing systemic impediments. Thank You to Our Sponsors Lineage - Get 15% Off Lineage Provisions with the code GABBY by going to ⁠lineageprovisions.com/GabbyReece Ritual - Get 25% off your first month or or add Essential For Women 18+ to your subscription at ritual.com/GABBY Troscriptions - Give it a try at troscriptions.com/GABBY or enter GABBY at checkout for 10% off your first order   CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction to Real Food 02:17 Personal Health Journey 09:27 The Carnivore Diet Experiment 13:36 Challenges and Adjustments 14:50 The Role of Insulin and Electrolytes 17:01 Public Perception and Personal Evolution 28:51 Fruit and Seasonal Eating 31:07 Supplementation and Nutrient Deficiency 39:43 The Importance of Sunlight and Natural Light 43:20 The Role of Diet in Skin Health 48:27 The Impact of Indoor Lighting on Health 53:13 The Importance of Protein and Collagen 58:21 Cholesterol: Myths and Facts 01:10:10 The Liver King Controversy 01:16:56 Paul Saladino's Fitness Routine 01:18:49 Final Thoughts and Health Tips FOR MORE ON PAUL SALADINO, MD Paul Saladino's Website Paul Saladino's Podcast The Carnivore Code: Unlocking The Secrets to Optimal Health by Returning to Our Ancestral Diet written by Paul Saladino, MD The Carnivore Code Cookbook: Reclaim Your Health, Strength and Vitality with 100+ Delicious Recipes by Paul Saladino, MD  Follow Paul Saldino on Instagram  For more on Gabby Instagram ⁠@GabbyReece⁠ TikTok ⁠@GabbyReeceOfficial ⁠  The Gabby Reece Show Podcast on YouTube: YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@GabbyReece⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Many folks who have a goal to lose weight turn to a rule of thermodynamics: calories in, calories out. While the foundational idea of eating fewer calories than you burn holds some truth, it's also a massive oversimplification of a complex process. Today you're going to learn about the nuances of counting calories. Our guest on today's show is Dr. Paul Saladino. He is a licensed physician, podcast host, and a leading authority on animal-based nutrition. He's back on The Model Health Show for an important discussion on why counting calories rarely works for long-term weight loss, the importance of focusing on food quality, and how environmental factors like light exposure control your health and energy. The human body is an intelligent, complex system that is affected by much more than just the number of calories you consume. If you're ready to step away from counting calories for good, I hope this episode provides you with some clarity and inspiration. Enjoy!   In this episode you'll discover:  The original purpose of the calorie. (2:49) What percentage of people regain weight after counting calories. (3:50) The definition of adaptive thermogenesis. (4:20) How ultra-processed food companies fund the narrative of calories in, calories out. (4:39) The role of food quality when trying to lose weight. (6:20) What important factors get overlooked when you exclusively focus on calories. (6:48) The connection between ultra-processed foods, mitochondria, and fat storage. (10:08) How food quality affects hunger. (11:25) What you need to know about the ingredient, EPG. (13:28) What year calories started being printed on food labels. (19:37) The truth about how artificial sweeteners affect the microbiome. (21:28) How convenience foods often lure adults into eating low quality food. (32:13) The story behind Dr. Saladino's company, Lineage. (38:06) What the health benefits of ultraviolet light are. (41:39) The difference between whole light and processed light.  (44:49) How to move away from counting calories. (58:44) The importance of understanding bioindividuality. (1:02:29)  Items mentioned in this episode include:  Organifi.com/Model - Use the coupon code MODEL for 20% off + free shipping! Paleovalley.com/model - Use code MODEL for 15% off!  Lineage Provisions - Use code MODELHEALTH for 10% off! Connect with Dr. Paul Saladino Website / Podcast / Instagram / X / YouTube     Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:   Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube     This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Organifi and Paleovalley. Organifi makes nutrition easy and delicious for everyone. Take 20% off your order with the code MODEL at organifi.com/model. Use my code MODEL at Paleovalley.com/model to save 15% sitewide on nutrient dense snacks, superfood supplements, and more.   

Paul Saladino, MD, is a double board-certified physician and a prominent advocate for an animal-based diet, known for his controversial views on nutrition and health. He graduated from the University of Arizona College of Medicine and completed his residency at the University of Washington. Saladino is the author of *The Carnivore Code* and *The Carnivore Code Cookbook*, where he argues that many chronic illnesses are linked to poor dietary choices and can be prevented or reversed through proper nutrition. His professional philosophy emphasizes questioning mainstream medical narratives, focusing instead on optimal health through dietary changes. In addition to his writing, Saladino hosts the *Fundamental Health* podcast, where he engages with various experts to discuss health optimization. He co-founded Lineage Provisions, which produces high-quality air-dried meat snacks, and Heart & Soil, offering desiccated organ supplements aimed at enhancing nutrient intake. Recently, he has been involved in projects like a collaboration with Raw Farm USA to create a raw kefir smoothie at Erewhon Market, further promoting his vision of ancestral nutrition and wellness through innovative products. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://ShawnLikesGold.com | 855-936-GOLD #goldcopartner https://amac.us/srs https://meetfabric.com/shawn https://americanfinancing.net/srs | 866-781-8900 | NMLS 182334, www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org https://hillsdale.edu/srs https://patriotmobile.com/srs | 972-PATRIOT This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/srs and get on your way to being your best self. https://helixsleep.com/srs https://rocketmoney.com/srs https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SRS https://blackbuffalo.com Paul Saladino Links: Website - https://www.ABNRF.org Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paulsaladinomd/?hl=en X - https://x.com/paulsaladinomd TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@paulsaladinomd2 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulSaladinoMD Heart & Soil - https://heartandsoil.co/ Lineage Provisions - https://lineageprovisions.com/ShawnRyan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices