After School Program

John Brzozowski is a 25-year-old accountant at Ernst and Young. John also co-hosts the @quadbunk podcast with @esmitty88, where they try to elicit value from their guests' experiences and banter on a wide range of topics for some easy listening. John graduated from Penn State University with a Master's in Accounting. In this episode: John's advice for those studying for the CPA exam Being your own biggest advocate Why he believes pursuing other interests benefits your career Why John wanted to start a podcast What he learned throughout the process of making his podcast And how John became an accountant after not having the GPA needed for the major in college You can follow John Brzozowski here. Check out these Quadbunk episodes: Zach's Appearance on Quadbunk Sajay Samuel Episode Christoph Hinkelmann Episode The You Fooked Up 45 Challenge - Runners First Show Notes Range by David Epstein - book If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram @asppod Follow Zach: Instagram @zach_mchale LinkedIn Zach McHale Twitter @zach_mchale Follow Connor: Instagram @connorheine Twitter @connorheine Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Shelby Guller is a copywriter currently based in LA. She's written for some of the world's biggest brands, including Starbucks, Uber, MasterClass, Coke, General Mills, and more... but she's kinda bad at writing her own bios. You can see her work on the side of many major highways. Or wherever you're watching an enjoyable piece of content. It'll be that thing you skip before it. In this episode: What the commercial production process looks like How Shelby comes up with advertising concepts How she figured out her career while at Syracuse University What it's like working as a woman in advertising Shelby's appearance on The Price is Right What makes for good copy And why Shelby and her work partner made the entire office refer to them as Hellboys Follow Shelby: Instagram @sheebslouise Twitter @sheebslouise If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us: Instagram @asppod Follow Zach: Instagram @zach_mchale LinkedIn Zach McHale Twitter @zach_mchale Follow Connor: Instagram @connorheine Twitter @connorheine Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Howard is an award-winning entrepreneur who helped scale a technology company that increased voter turnout in democracies around the world. He's worked at the UN and as a litigation attorney at an international law firm. He also has experience working in journalism at CNN and Global News and in Public Policy for the former Under Secretary of State for Public Affairs. He was named a ‘Global Shaper' by the World Economic Forum and received his J.D. and Master's from McGill University and Harvard. Howard currently works at Facebook. In this episode: How Howard built Vote Compass and made his product have an international impact Why getting cut from his high school's basketball team was a life-altering experience What it was like to attend law school at 19-years-old How Howard's time working at the United Nations led him to pursue journalism And how Howard got into breakdancing You can follow Howard Cohen: Instagram | @howard.cohen44 LinkedIn | Howard Cohen Twitter | @howardcohen0 Facebook | Howard Cohen If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Chloe Cullen is a writer, scripted television comedy assistant at CAA, and a recovering perfectionist. At 25-years-old, Chloe is set to release her first book, PERF, later this fall. The novel explores the ignored side of perfectionism. Chloe's work has also been published in TINGE Magazine, Please See Me, and other publications. She has worked at entertainment agencies, management firms, and production companies in talent representation and development. Chloe graduated magna cum laude from Penn State University, obtaining three degrees over five years: a Masters of Arts in creative writing, Bachelors of Arts in English, and a Bachelors of Arts in broadcast journalism. She loves storytelling in all realms of media, from television to books. She currently lives in New York. Chloe and Zach know each other from their time together at Penn State's late-night comedy show After Hours. In this episode we talk about: The negative effects of perfectionism Techniques to work through perfectionism How Chloe crowdfunded nearly $10K to publish her book The mutual qualities of good scripts Why Chloe is taking a brief break from writing. Follow Chloe on Instagram: @ischloeawriter Subscribe to the PERF newsletter: ischloeawriter.substack.com If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

“If you reach out to people asking for a job, they're gonna give you advice. And if you reach out to people asking for advice, you'll probably get a job.” Andrew is a 33-year-old head of business development at a private equity fund. In this episode we talk about: Becoming numb to rejection When to pass a prospect on to an expert The difficulties in managing your peers Balancing work while obtaining an MBA Andrew's journey through the start-up world Learning through informational Finding your mentors And opportunities through weak ties If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Olivia Atwood is a writer, actress, fitness instructor and matchmaker who loves Pret A Manger brownies and hates when Pret A Manger is out of brownies. A SAG-eligible and EMC actress, Olivia has been called “riotous” by Time Out New York and her comedic duo has been hailed as a “modern-day Lucy and Ethel” by StageBuddy. Her favorite pastime is gossiping about the Bachelor and your most recent Hinge date. She also thinks you should join the Love Pool probably. In this episode, we talk about how Olivia started her matchmaking service Liv's Love Pool, her dating advice, being a fake patient for resident doctors, and her time as a birthday clown. You can find Olivia here: Instagram | Website And check out Liv's Love Pool: Instagram | Website If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Arianna Rehak is Co-Founder and CEO of Matchbox Virtual Media. The company co-produces virtual events for associations. Matchbox Virtual was founded in 2019, starting with four employees. Once the pandemic began, more companies were forced to work remotely and demand for virtual events soared. The company had to scale from 4 to 50 employees in just 8 months. In this episode we talk about: How Arianna created Matchbox Virtual Scaling the company while maintaining its culture How to use virtual events to bring associations together Dealing with survivor's guilt while the company was having success during the pandemic Arianna's time as a financial assistant And crossing the chasm. SHOW NOTES Matchbox Kitchen If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Connor Gross (@c_gro) is a 24-year-old entrepreneur who sold his 7-figure business Cardly, while he was still attending college at Northeastern University. After graduation, Connor joined the e-commerce marketing company Privy. He left after less than a year to focus on buying and building businesses. He currently owns a car illustration company, a photo editing business, and a tiny house blog. He also hosts his own podcast The Next Generation Podcast, where he interviews the 20somethings building the future. In this episode, we talk to Connor about why he chose his current businesses, how he uses social media to build his network, and how he built Cardly with his co-founder out of their college dorm rooms. We also cover what he's learned from interviewing over 20 entrepreneurs, why he decided to leave Privy, and his best and worst experiences from traveling to over 30 countries. You can follow Connor here: Twitter | Blog | The Next Generation Podcast If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

“I feel like a lot of people have definitely started to question how they relate to work, how they're treated at work, and how they balance their lives.” Lauren (Lo) Harris (@loharris_art) is a NYC-based digital artist who specializes in illustration and motion design. After graduating from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism in 2018, she's created graphics and illustrations for a variety of brands and publications including, but not limited to, NBC News, The New York Times, Bustle, Amazon Prime Video, The United Nations, Warby Parker, American Express and Cosmopolitan. Through her bright palettes and relational compositions, Lo creates work that champions vibrance, confidence, humanity, and celebrations of a more just and kind world. Lauren has been interviewed by TODAY and has appeared on The Ellen Show. In this episode: (1:55) Lauren's artwork (4:00) How Lauren rediscovered her love for creating digital art (9:34) The story of Lauren's success (12:57) Her art embodying her emotions during the Black Lives Matter protests (17:20) Being DM'd by big brands for her art and deciding to freelance full-time (25:14) How Lauren decided not be a people pleaser anymore (30:06) Learning to say no (38:35) Representing herself and not catering to empty virtue signaling (46:00) Growing up in a creative family and discovering her love for digital art (52:35) Pursuing writing and production instead of digital art (55:47) What success means to Lauren (57:43) Lauren's advice to aspiring freelancers (1:00:44) Lauren's current projects Check out Lauren Harris on Instagram | YouTube | Shop If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5 AM EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"While you're young and don't have a mortgage to pay or kids to feed, you might as well go find what you like. And then do your best to incorporate that throughout your life and hopefully, that crosses over into your career as well." Jack Divney (@jdivsauce22) is a 26-year-old sales development representative at Segment, a customer data software company. He's a Colorado transplant who navigates the sales world when he's not outside. Jack is an avid skier, hiker, novice climber, and always looking for something new. He's been on a 40-day road trip across the U.S., traveled in Thailand for 20-days, and much more. After graduating college a semester late, Jack took up a job as a substitute teacher in New Jersey. He later worked in sales at Xerox, but left the company when he decided he wanted to live in Colorado. Jack crashed on a friend's couch in Denver while pursuing a job at Education First. He got the position and remained there for over a year, until the pandemic limited operations. He then took the position at Segment. In this episode we talk about: (0:59) Segment and Jack's role (6:45) The most dangerous situations Jack has been in while traveling (15:30) Growing up and trying to figure out a career while at the University of South Carolina (21:24) Doing an extra semester in college, substitute teaching, and feeling behind (26:10) Road-tripping across the U.S. for 40 days (33:36) Quitting his job to move out to Denver (46:49) Leaving his travel booking job to move into software sales (49:58) Jack's advice to somebody trying to figure out their career path SHOW NOTES If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"There's something that you could push yourself in physically or mentally that makes you a tougher individual." Ryan Lange is a 24-year-old ultramarathon runner and business owner. He became the youngest person to ever run a 200-mile race at just 20-years-old. Ryan's objective is to show others the value created by pushing your body and brain to their absolute limits. Ryan owns and operates an outdoor apparel company (Live GenZ), a product development company (Persistent Design & Marketing), and he's also an RRCA certified running coach (RaveRunner Training). He ran the Moab 240 in 86 hours. A self-described "chubby" kid growing up, Ryan began running freshman year of college to lose weight. This led to a marathon, then a 50 mile race, then a 100-mile race, and finally races surpassing 200 miles. In this episode: (1:18) How Ryan got into running (7:00) Ryan's White Claw Challenge (8:45) What Ryan enjoys about running (11:45) Live GenZ, RaveRunner, and Persistent Design & Marketing (13:20) Ryan's advice to people beginning to run (18:44) Almost getting on Shark Tank (20:45) Growing up and getting an entrepreneurial grant (24:42) Pushing through moments of doubt (28:34) Running on edibles (32:30) What Ryan learned from the one race he couldn't finish (36:11) The hardest race Ryan has completed (39:35) Sleep deprivation and hallucinating during races (43:29) What success means to Ryan SHOW NOTES Moab 240 Ryan's White Claw Challenge The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter David Goggins Bigfoot 200 You can follow Ryan on Instagram (@raverunner_1) and YouTube (Ryan The RaveRunner Lange) You can check out his businesses Live GenZ, Persistent Marketing and Design, and Rave Runner Training If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"If you're ever trying to build confidence in whatever you're doing, go to dinner by yourself." Max Busca is a Sales Development Manager at the eCommerce startup MikMak. MikMak helps brands connect their digital investments to online retailer insights. After an internship heading into his senior year, Max realized that finance wasn't the career path he wanted to take. He connected with a college alumni who started a sports and apparel company, Destination Athlete. Max ended up purchasing his own franchise and ran it for a year, with YoY sales of 160%. Max choose to sell the franchise once he came to the conclusion that he wanted to work for a startup. He cold-emailed the CEO of MikMak after hearing her on a podcast, which eventually led to an interview and a job. Max was a finance major at The College of New Jersey. He was a four-year starter and two-time captain of their football team. In this episode: 1:16 How the digital marketing environment has changed 9:01 How Max got a job at MikMak after cold-emailing the CEO 22:35 When Max realized he didn't want to work in finance 26:53 Playing football at TCNJ 36:00 Running a Destination Athlete sports and apparel franchise 38:04 How Max uses fear-setting when making decisions 53:17 How After School Program podcast started 1:00:19 Max's advice SHOW NOTES Andrew Hall - Oil "God" Tim Ferriss Fear-Setting If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"You can always perfect anything infinitely, but at a certain point, it's time to let it go." Sam is a mechanical engineer from Montreal, Canada. He has pursued a wide range of engineering experiences in over five different industries, including rockets at SpaceX, energy storage at Tesla, and electric flying cars at Lilium Aviation. His current focus is helping to solve the climate crisis. He's a leader and organizer of a highly active and entrepreneurial climate community called Work on Climate. He has also developed a board game about climate solutions, called Solutions. The game exposes players to almost 100 unique and surprising solutions to climate change, inspired by research from Project Drawdown. It is designed to give you hope that climate change is still a solvable problem and a sense of urgency that it's almost (but not quite) too late. It might even encourage you to pick a solution and take real-world action! The Solutions board game will be on Kickstarter in Summer 2021. You can learn more at https://solutionsthegame.com/ In this episode: 0:53 How Sam developed Solutions 19:55 How he got into venture capital by giving a presentation on why investors shouldn't invest in his company 27:34 Growing up in Montreal 29:10 How a concussion led Sam to focus more on inventing 38:02 How he built a hovercraft in 11th grade 41:12 How Sam made himself become a more social person in high school 55:12 How he figured out he wanted to be a mechanical engineer 59:37 His experience at at Dalhousie University 1:07:36 Designing drones at Skysquirrel Technologies 1:11:43 His experience at SpaceX & Tesla 1:27:28 How a wind turbine class project led to his first company out of school 1:34:47 Sam's advice to aspiring entrepreneurs SHOW NOTES Solutions board game Project Drawdown Kickstarter Work on Climate Starshot Syndicate Xoogler Skysquirrel Technologies Lilium Aviation You can check out Solutions on IG and FB @solutionsthegame Thanks to Podcast Pair for connecting Sam and me! If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

“I came to the realization that I didn't need to have an income that depended on the thing I loved in order to keep doing it and loving it. “ Julia de Lorimier (@jldelorimier) is a software engineer for Betterment, a savings and investing FinTech company. While studying abroad in Brazil, Julia decided to switch her major from philosophy to psychobiology. When she graduated, she taught SAT and ACT prep to high schoolers, while she pursued her dancing career at a conservatory. Julia came to the realization that she would be happy, even happier, if she danced as a hobby instead of a career and began to look for new jobs. She found a role in the customer experiences department at Betterment. Julia took a coding bootcamp after work and eventually landed a job as a software engineer at the same company. Julia graduated from Santa Clara University in 2015. Disclaimer: Julia is not a financial representative. In this episode: 1:27 Julia's personal finance tips 10:15 Why she switched from majoring in philosophy 16:26 Julia's life-changing experience in Brazil and working at a hostel 28:04 Why she decided to pursue dance after she graduated college 32:39 Her experience tutoring students on SAT and ACT prep 34:36 Julia's SAT and ACT prep tips 39:58 Why she decided she didn't need to dance for a career 49:12 How a date eventually led her to her job at Betterment 1:00:31 Julia's experience working in customer services 1:13:34 How she switched from working in customer services to engineering 1:22:58 What her role in software engineering is like 1:29:20 Julia's advice Show Notes I Will Teach You to Be Rich by Ramit Sethi Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans Freakanomics Radio If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"Be content with doing both. You don't have to go all-in on one thing." Erich Hoffman (@sweetteethmusic) is a Music Producer and DJ who goes by the name of "Sweet Teeth". His journey as an artist started in a high school elective class called 'Technology in Music' with learning the basics of audio engineering in GarageBand. He now has played his songs for thousands of people across the country and amassed millions of streams online. Erich is represented by Segeth Entertainment and Mint Talent Group. He graduated from Philadelphia University (now Jefferson University) in 2017. In this episode: 4:12 How the lockdown made Erich alter his music 6:43 TikTok's influence on the music industry 9:01 Why Erich doesn't send his music to friends and family 12:12 Spotify overtaking SoundCloud & the digital streaming wars 16:45 Erich's childhood and his musical influences 18:17 How a high school elective sparked Erich's music production career 24:26 Erich's song for a senior class project that went viral 28:38 His experience DJing college parties 36:39 Advancing from playing bars and parties to EDM shows across the country 44:16 Erich's thought process as his music career became more successful 45:48 Balancing his job in software sales with his music career 56:01 Using social media 1:00:08 His friendship and collaborating with Shizz Lo 1:05:59 Erich's advice to himself 1:08:01 Why you can pursue your passion and have a job 1:11:34 A conversation around the longevity of EDM artists 1:19:11 How Erich would define success 1:21:06 How Erich got represented by a manager and agency 1:25:12 His biggest fan SHOW NOTES You can follow Erich Hoffman (Sweet Teeth) through the links below: Spotify | Instagram | Snapchat | TikTok | Twitter If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"There's only so much you can learn about a profession from reading about it or hearing about it. You just got to go out and do it." Rob Breck is an account executive at Audacy, formerly known as CBS Radio and Entercom. He represents some of the biggest brands in sports, music, and news by executing sponsorship and marketing agreements through digital, audio, and social. After various internships in Broadcast Journalism, Rob realized that while he wanted to work within the sports industry, he needed a better work-life balance. Rob now works in Ad Sales right down the hall from some of his favorite radio hosts of WFAN - New York Yankees Radio Network. Rob graduated from Pennsylvania State University in 2017. In this episode: 1:18 Rob's role at Audacy 8:49 Becoming friends with his childhood idols 12:43 The impact of COVID on Audacy and the sports industry 18:50 Rob's first sports memory 21:39 When he decided he wanted to work in sports 23:13 Rob's internships in production and journalism 29:35 Realizing he wanted to work in Ad Sales to maintain a healthy work-life balance 38:27 Rob's experience attending Barstool Sports' Party in Miami 43:21 Rob's advice 45:29 What Rob would've done differently 47:21 How Rob would define success 50:09 The best piece of advice he's received SHOW NOTES Monday Night Massacre - Jets vs. Patriots 2019 Super Bowl XXIII - Joe Montana beats Boomer Esiason Big Three Basketball - Ice Cube's 3-on-3 basketball league Rudy Gobert touches microphones, gets COVID, and NBA games are canceled Kicker Doug Bryan misses two field goals for Jets in 2004 AFC Divisional Round 2017 Rose Bowl - USC vs. Penn State If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts | Amazon Music Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Kyle Sparkman (@kylesparkman) is a guitarist and singer-songwriter based in Philadelphia. His music has been described as indie-funk or a combination of “Mac DeMarco, John Frusciante, Tom Misch, and some disco rolled into one.” Kyle recently released his live sessions EP “Alive and Well”. His music and videos have been streamed over 400,000 times. Kyle discovered his passion for performing while studying Economics at the University of Clemson. He did a semester abroad in Paris, France where he began performing in the street and jamming with other musicians. After graduation, Kyle began to get his footing in the Philadelphia music scene playing guitar for the band Looseleaf. But an opportunity arose to teach English in Lyon, France for a year and Kyle took it. He returned back to Philadelphia and was reestablishing himself in the scene until the pandemic hit. Kyle has been focusing on creating new music and promoting his content on social media. In this episode: 1:01 The process of creating his EP 9:54 How he would describe his music 12:47 His influences 18:06 Discovering his passion for performing in college 20:35 Studying and performing in Paris, France 24:32 Creating his band Frequent Flyers at Clemson University 40:39 Joining the Philadelphia music scene and Looseleaf 30:52 Deciding to put music out under his own name 34:18 Moving to Lyon, France to teach English for a year 40:45 Rejoining the Philly music scene 43:01 Using social media for his music 45:50 Being the Community Manager for Pickup Music 49:16 Kyle's advice You check out Kyle Sparkman's music here: Spotify | YouTube | Instagram | Website If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband SHOW NOTES "Alive and Well" - Kyle Sparkman's live sessions EP Funk215 live session video Jonathan Colman and Muscle Tough Mac DeMarco John Frusciante Tom Misch Luke O'Brien ZHU Frequent Flyers - band Looseleaf - band Phil Conine Mochi Robinson Pickup Music

"Sometimes, I think the path of least resistance is actually leading you somewhere good." Katherine Churchill is pursuing her Ph.D. in English at the University of Virginia. She's previously held positions at Resolution Media, Prestel Publishing, and W. W. Norton & Company. Katherine finished her undergraduate at Bowdoin College in 2016. In this episode: (0:40) Deciding to go back to school (4:11) Katherine's interest in reading as a child (8:40) Her experience teaching English in France (12:57) Working in publishing in New York (22:45) Switching to advertising (29:04) Katherine's advice If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"It's not going to be an easy path to become what you want to be. But if you're passionate about it, and you said yes, then do it. Do what it takes to get there." Lauren Seely (@laurenakseely) was an Associate Producer at NBC News's The Overview, which streamed on Peacock. She was previously a Production Coordinator at NBC News and A&E. During college, Lauren was an intern at The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon and was one of Lorne Michaels's interns at Saturday Night Live. Lauren graduated from Mount Hollyoke College in 2016. In this episode: (2:45) Lauren's time producing for The Overview (16:52) Growing up in Los Angeles and moving to D.C. in high school (23:45) Interning for The Tonight Show and Saturday Night Live (36:42) The difficulties that come with freelancing (43:55) Why you should have candy on your desk (46:38) Winning Miss D.C.'s Outstanding Teen (52:21) Lauren's advice to aspiring producers (1:03:20) What she would have done differently If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

In this special episode of After School Program, we reflect on our experience with the podcast so far, including what we've learned throughout the process, our favorite moments, and the best insight from guests in Episodes 7-12. This is Part 2 of the two-part series. We'll return to normal interview episodes again on Tuesday. In this episode: (0:25) Reflecting on Episode 7 with Comedian/Musician Josh Harmon (7:40) Reflecting on Episode 8 with MSNBC Associate Producer Dan Corey (11:24) Reflecting on Episode 9 with Social Media Marketer Brett Yoncak (19:27) Reflecting on Episode 10 with Vocal Artist & Peloton Producer Nic Earley (23:40) Reflecting on Episode 11 with Innovation Consultant Pamela Duncan (28:00) Reflecting on Episode 12 with Environmental Scientist Elise Rodriguez Full Interview Episode 7 Full Interview Episode 8 Full Interview Episode 9 Full Interview Episode 10 Full Interview Episode 11 Full Interview Episode 12 Reflection Pt. 1 If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of After School Program, you can help support the show by doing the following: Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google Podcasts Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Follow us on Instagram or check out our website Tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST Producer & Host: Zach McHale Editor & Host: Connor Heine Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

In this special episode of After School Program, we reflect on our experience with the podcast so far, including what we've learned throughout the process, our favorite moments, and the best insight from guests in Episodes 1-6. This is Part 1 of the two-part series. We reflect on Episodes 7-12 in Part 2, which will be released Tuesday morning. In this episode: (0:30) Thoughts on our first time recording together (2:16) Reflecting on Episode 1 with Outdoor Leader Matt Duncan (5:32) Reflecting on Episode 2 with Sports Journalist Brody Miller (9:50) Reflecting on Episode 3 with Professional Skydiver Brian Lane (13:08) Reflecting on Episode 4 with Musician Jonathan Colman (15:57) Reflecting on Episode 5 with Comedy Television Writer Ella Robinson Brooks (19:44) Reflecting on Episode 6 with Apple Supply Chain Managers Lauren Poillon and Katie Humphrey Full Episode 1 Interview Here Full Episode 2 Interview Here Full Episode 3 Interview Here Full Episode 4 Interview Here Full Episode 5 Interview Here Full Episode 6 Interview Here Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"Take a writing course or an English course, anything that's going to be heavy in writing, because I've seen that be valued very heavily in a variety of positions." Elise Rodriguez is an Environmental Scientist with Churchill Consulting Engineers. She's worked as a research assistant, firefighter, farmworker, park ranger, and wildlife technician. Elise has held positions at the University of North Carolina, University of Nebraska, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the Bureau of Land Management. She's lived in New York, Oregon, California, Nevada, Florida, and even Kenya. Elise completed her undergraduate at Dickinson College in 2011 and finished graduate school at Villanova University in 2018. In this episode: (4:54) Elise's experience as a firefighter (10:30) Her time assessing natural resource damage (14:02) When and how she decided to go to graduate school (16:39) Working as an Environmental Scientist for Churchill Consulting Engineers (17:49) When Elise first became interested in nature (19:05) Living in a house with other environmentalists during college (23:30) Her experience researching in Kenya (27:59) Getting stung by a scorpion in the desert (33:07) How Elise's priorities have changed (34:57) Elise's advice Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

“If you're presenting to a room, and you want to recapture all of their attention, stop talking.” Pamela Duncan is an Innovation Consultant at Fahrenheit 212 in New York, where she helps Fortune 500 companies to invent new products, brands, and services. She previously held a position as a Strategy Consultant at Capgemini. Pam was also a Special Events Coordinator at the Museum of Modern Art before making a career change to become a consultant. Pam graduated from Colgate University in 2014. In this episode: (0:41) How Pam used networking and her liberal arts background to get a job as a consultant (11:22) The importance of listening to your body and being in touch with your emotions (19:29) Consulting 101 (24:05) The ease of remembering when you find the topic interesting (33:10) Emulating leadership styles and the value of mentorship (38:21) Navigating Colgate University and maturing slowly (45:45) Pam's advice to herself Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

“Your friends are not your audience.” Nic Earley (@nicearley_) is a recording artist/producer and co-host/executive producer of Stay Busy with Armon Sadler. Earley has worked in the media industry for various companies and TV productions such as NBCUniversal, Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen, as well as Peloton Interactive. Nic graduated from Cornell University in 2017. In this episode: (1:28) Filling in for Kendrick Lamar during rehearsal for Saturday Night Live (7:00) How Nic built organizational skills to balance his various pursuits (22:50) Understanding his sound while making music (33:45) His experience as a child actor (37:29) Nic's reunion with his old agent, Chrissy Metz (47:20) Why Stevie Wonder is one of the greatest musicians of all-time (52:14) Getting involved at Cornell University (1:10:45) Nic's career path (1:27:45) Starting the Stay Busy podcast (1:32:13) Nic's advice to young musicians You can follow Nic Earley below: Spotify Instagram Website Twitter And check out Stay Busy with Armon Sadler on Spotify. Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

A social media marketer, two supply chain managers and a news producer share stories about how they overcame various obstacles. (0:26) Brett Yoncak is the owner and operator of BCT Studio, where he and his partner/girlfriend create and manage advertising campaigns for businesses and provide daily marketing consultations to business owners around the world. Brett taught himself graphic design and social media marketing by using YouTube and Google. He previously held positions at MetaNova and Alfalfa Studio before starting his own business. You can find our full conversation with Brett here. (2:45) Lauren Poillon (@laurenpoillon) and Katie Humphrey (@kt_humphrey) took working remotely to a whole new level when they decided to rent a van and travel the U.S. for over 5 months, all while managing global supply chains for Apple. A journey that was supposed to last only a month, extended into nearly half a year. We had the @vanlife__bestlife girls on the show to reflect on their highs and lows, the friends they made along the way, and the lessons they learned from their adventure. Lauren and Katie both are graduates of Pennsylvania State University. Katie previously worked for Under Armor and Lauren interned with SpaceX. You can find our full conversation with Katie and Lauren here. (6:45) Dan Corey (@danielhcorey) is an Associate Segment Producer at MSNBC where he writes and produces segments for use on-air. While he was a student at Rutgers University, fighting to keep the school's newspaper alive, Dan landed an interview with President Obama by boldly asking him for the interview during the middle of a Q-and-A with college reporters at the White House. You can find our full conversation with Dan here. Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday and Thursday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

“It always seems like people stress about a lot of stuff that could potentially just not happen, and then it ends up not happening. And then you just wasted all of that energy and caused yourself all of this trauma for no reason.” Brett Yoncak is the owner and operator of BCT Studio, where he and his partner/girlfriend create and manage advertising campaigns for businesses and provide daily marketing consultations to business owners around the world. Brett taught himself graphic design and social media marketing by using YouTube and Google. He previously held positions at MetaNova and Alfalfa Studio before starting his own business. In this episode: (3:33) Competing with college graduates as a self-taught graphic designer (5:40) Brett's financial difficulties while getting his business off the ground in Colombia (13:17) Getting locked down during COVID in Colombia (16:49) Maintaining a positive mindset through difficulties (23:32) How Brett developed his creativity (34:23) Mono, ADHD medications and punishment for doodling (49:22) How Brett picked himself back up during a difficult period (57:30) Brett quitting his pizza delivery job (59:34) Diving into your first job (1:01:39) How Brett's conversation with his boss helped convince him to work for himself (1:07:20) How social media is becoming spammy (1:22:10) Why Brett keeps his phone blank (1:27:32) Brett's favorite books and apps You check out Brett's business BCT Studio or follow him on LinkedIn Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday and Thursday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

In this themed episode, we compiled answers from a TV comedy writer, news producer and professional musician about how they discovered their passion while growing up. (0:32) At 24 years old, Ella Robinson Brooks (@ellarobbro) is the youngest staff writer for TBS's “The Last O.G.” starring Tracy Morgan. In addition to pitching ideas and helping with story development, part of Ella's role is to be the young voice who writers can consult to make sure their language and use of phones in the show are consistent with how young adults speak and use them in the real world. You can find Ella's full interview here. (3:21) Dan Corey (@danielhcorey) is an Associate Segment Producer at MSNBC where he writes and produces segments for use on-air. While he was a student at Rutgers University, fighting to keep the school's newspaper alive, Dan landed an interview with President Obama by boldly asking him for the interview during the middle of a Q-and-A with college reporters at the White House. You can find Dan's full interview here. (13:56) Jonathan Colman (@friendshipwizard) is the bass guitarist for the futuristic funk band Muscle Tough (@muscletough). They've opened for Lotus at Capital Theatre, played at The Fillmore in their hometown of Philadelphia and performed alongside Jon Fishman, co-founder of the band Phish. You can find Jonathan's full interview here. Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"You're working hard so that when you hit that point where the opportunity comes, you're ready to take it." Dan Corey (@danielhcorey) is an Associate Segment Producer at MSNBC where he writes and produces segments for use on-air. While he was a student at Rutgers University, fighting to keep the school's newspaper alive, Dan landed an interview with President Obama by boldly asking him for the interview during the middle of a Q-and-A with college reporters at the White House. In this episode we cover: (0:52) Dan's reflection on the insurrection at the White House (6:24) How the pandemic destabilized many parts of society (22:57) Dan's role at MSNBC (25:05) His appreciation for music and the arts while growing up (39:41) Dan's experience landing and conducting the interview with President Obama (1:15:38) Why Dan prioritizes sleep (1:39:39) Practicing gratitude, positivity and controlling your reactions (1:48:57) Dan's complicated weight-loss journey You can find a few segments Dan has produced for MSNBC here. Here is the footage of Dan asking President Obama for the interview. Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday and Thursday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Here's a short clip that we left out of our interview with Josh Harmon. The three of us went off on a tangent in a million different directions and felt that it didn't serve the purpose of the interview, but we had a lot of fun doing it. Josh Harmon (@joshplaysdrums) is a musician and comedian who recently found success on TikTok through his Rhythms of Comedy series. He has amassed over 200,000 followers and his videos have been viewed millions of times, receiving encouragement from Hannibal Buress, Hannah Gadsby, Dan Levy, and Pete Holmes. He's also an Associate Editor at TODAY.com. Josh graduated from Amherst College in 2018 and was formerly an NBCUniversal Page. You can follow Josh on social media: YT: Josh Harmon IG: josh_harmon_ TK: @joshplaysdrums Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday and Thursday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"When you really give all of yourself to something, you come out on the other side a better person." Josh Harmon (@joshplaysdrums) is a musician and comedian who recently found success on TikTok through his Rhythms of Comedy series. He has amassed over one million followers and his videos have been viewed tens of millions of times, receiving encouragement from Hannibal Buress, Hannah Gadsby, Dan Levy, and Pete Holmes. His Ratatouille video has over 75 million views. He's also an Associate Editor at TODAY.com. Josh graduated from Amherst College in 2018 and was formerly an NBCUniversal Page. In this episode: (1:21) Josh's remote performance on The Tonight Show (8:50) Josh's passion for performing and drumming (35:38) How he came up with his Rhythms of Comedy series (42:07) Why Josh makes sure to smile during his videos (44:12) Why he takes breaks from social media (51:33) Josh's journey of viral success (1:10:30) His advice to people thinking about making content (1:15:22) Josh's “GaryVee moment” (1:54:37) Figuring out what he wanted to do for a career You can follow Josh on social media: YT: Josh Harmon IG: josh_harmon_ TK: @joshplaysdrums Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday and Thursday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

Past guests reflect on the first big decision that they made in their careers. Their choices include changing careers entirely, taking your passion more seriously and discovering what it is you truly want to pursue. Here are the bios for each guest: (0:23) Matt Duncan (@matthewduncs) has been a leader and planner at Overland Summers for the past 4 years, guiding domestic and international adventure trips for 4th-12th graders. He's a member of the U.S. National Guard and an avid bikepacker, having biked over 200 miles in a single day. (3:10) As the LSU beat reporter for The Athletic, Brody Miller (@BrodyAMiller) covered LSU during their 2019 national championship season, writing numerous features on one of the greatest college football teams of all-time, and was selected to cast a vote in the 2019 Heisman Trophy all before he turned 26. He was the Managing Editor at the Indiana Daily Student during college and later held positions at The Indianapolis Star, The Clarion Ledger and NOLA.com. (5:25) Ella Robinson Brooks (@ellarobbro) is the youngest staff writer for TBS's “The Last O.G.” starring Tracy Morgan, at just 24-years-old. In addition to pitching ideas and helping with story development, part of Ella's role is to be the young voice who writers can consult to make sure their language and use of phones in the show are consistent with how young adults speak and use them in the real world. She graduated from Emerson College in just two years with a degree in Writing for Film and Television. Ella has previously held positions as a freelance production assistant, a page for NBCUniversal and a segment coordinator at The Rachael Ray Show. (7:15) Katie Humphrey (@kt_humphrey) took working remotely to a whole new level when she decided to rent a van and travel the U.S. for over 5 months, all while managing global supply chains for Apple. A journey that was supposed to last only a month, extended into nearly half a year. Katie is a graduate of Pennsylvania State University and previously worked for Under Armor. Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"You don't have to plan every single minute of your life." Lauren Poillon (@laurenpoillon) and Katie Humphrey (@kt_humphrey) took working remotely to a whole new level when they decided to rent a van and travel the U.S. for over 5 months, all while managing global supply chains for Apple. A journey that was supposed to last only a month, extended into nearly half a year. We had the @vanlife__bestlife girls on the show to reflect on their highs and lows, the friends they made along the way, and the lessons they learned from their adventure. Lauren and Katie both are graduates of Pennsylvania State University. Katie previously worked for Under Armor and Lauren interned with SpaceX. In this episode: How Katie and Lauren balanced work and time in nature (11:45) The lifelong friendships they made during their trip (17:18) What they took away from their travels (44:54) What it's like to work at Apple (56:10) Journaling, practicing gratitude, and Stoicism (1:17:20) Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts, and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"What advice would you give to a younger version of yourself or somebody interested in pursuing your career?" We asked this question to a musician, sports journalist, skydiver and an outdoor leader. New short-form episodes will be out every Thursday morning! Here are each of their bios: Matt Duncan - Outdoor Leader (0:40) Matt Duncan (@matthewduncs) has been a leader and planner at Overland Summers for the past 4 years, guiding domestic and international adventure trips for 4th-12th graders. He's a member of the U.S. National Guard and an avid bikepacker, having biked over 200 miles in a single day. You can find Matt's full interview on Apple or Spotify Brody Miller - Sports Journalist (1:58) As the LSU beat reporter for The Athletic, Brody Miller (@BrodyAMiller) covered LSU during their 2019 national championship season, writing numerous features on one of the greatest college football teams of all-time, and was selected to cast a vote in the 2019 Heisman Trophy all before he turned 26. You can find Brody's full interview on Apple or Spotify Brian Lane - Professional Skydiver (3:33) Brian Lane (@brian.lane) is one of the youngest professional skydiving instructors at Skydive Spaceland Dallas where he lives on-site in an airplane hangar. He's completed nearly 2,000 jumps and is currently undergoing training to fly in a wingsuit. You can find Brian's full interview on Apple or Spotify Jonathan Colman - Bass Guitarist (6:50) Jonathan Colman (@friendshipwizard) is the bass guitarist for the futuristic funk band Muscle Tough. They've opened for Lotus at Capital Theatre, played the Fillmore in their hometown of Philadelphia and performed alongside Jon Fishman, co-founder of the band Phish. You can find Jonathan's full interview on Apple or Spotify Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"What's meant for you will come to you when it's your time." At 24 years old, Ella Robinson Brooks (@ellarobbro) is the youngest staff writer for TBS's “The Last O.G.” starring Tracy Morgan. In addition to pitching ideas and helping with story development, part of Ella's role is to be the young voice who writers can consult to make sure their language and use of phones in the show are consistent with how young adults speak and use them in the real world. She graduated from Emerson College in just two years with a degree in Writing for Film and Television. Ella has previously held positions as a freelance production assistant, a page for NBCUniversal and a segment coordinator at The Rachael Ray Show. In this episode: The day Ella found out she was going to be a staff writer (1:10) How Ella got management through Twitter (6:38) The day-to-day of writing on a TV show and Ella being the “resident young person” (10:01) Ella's childhood and her path to pursue writing (14:30) Ella's experience in the NBCUniversal Page Program (31:50) Working at the Rachael Ray Show and when she brought Zach onto the show (43:25) How all morning show audience members are the same people (51:57) Ella's writing process and inspiration (1:06:34) You can follow Ella on IG: @ellaforever Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"If you're not the worst guy in your band, then find a new band." Jonathan Colman (@friendshipwizard) is the bass guitarist for the futuristic funk band Muscle Tough (@muscletough). They've opened for Lotus at Capital Theatre, played at The Fillmore in their hometown of Philadelphia and performed alongside Jon Fishman, co-founder of the band Phish. In this episode: How Weird Al Yankovic was Jonathan's introduction to rap (13:03) How Jonathan went straight from graduating from Duquesne University, to touring across the country with his band 28 North (38:12) Why he had to walk away from his dream (41:31) How working as a lunch lady helped pull Jon out of a dark time (43:24) How Muscle Tough came together (54:46) What it's like performing at a large venue like The Fillmore (1:03:16) And a conversation around mental health (1:18:32) Listen to Muscle Tough's newest release covering Sheryl Crow's "Every Day Is a Winding Road." You can DM Jonathan for private music lessons at @friendshipwizard Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"This kind of saved me in a time of need. Maybe I can pass that on to other people." Brian Lane (@brian.lane) is one of the youngest professional skydiving instructors at Skydive Spaceland Dallas where he lives on-site in an airplane hangar. He's completed nearly 2,000 jumps and is currently undergoing training to fly in a wingsuit. After being lead to Paul Smith's College in upstate New York by his uncle, Brian enrolled in a major called RAELM (Recreation, Adventure Education and Leisure Management) with a minor in Business. He's been a whitewater rafting guide in Utah, ski instructor in Colorado and he briefly trained as a wellness therapist in New York. In this episode: How tearing his shoulder rock-climbing led him back to skydiving (15:46) Realizing his dream job wasn't as advertised (22:45) Why skydivers don't like Tom Cruise (35:35) How he didn't realize his love for the outdoors until college (38:16) Why Brian views skydiving as an outlet to express himself (1:03:04) How instructors tell students they're not cut out for skydiving (1:06:54) The craziest hobby Brian has heard of (1:13:36) Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

"The reasons people start doing something are always very, very different from why they keep doing them." As the LSU beat reporter for The Athletic, Brody Miller (@BrodyAMiller) covered LSU during their 2019 national championship season, writing numerous features on one of the greatest college football teams of all-time, and was selected to cast a vote in the 2019 Heisman Trophy all before he turned 26. He was the Managing Editor at the Indiana Daily Student during college and later held positions at The Indianapolis Star, The Clarion Ledger and NOLA.com. In this episode: Brody's advice to aspiring journalists (4:34) How a little luck played into his career (9:53) Covering one of the greatest college football teams of all time (18:20) Why it's the stories within sports that Brody enjoys (36:26) Realizing he was overworked and how he brought himself back in balance (1:04:26) How technology has altered journalism and entertainment (1:33:22) Brody's advice to himself (2:06:00) How he interviews when covering a sensitive subject (2:08:15) Check out our website and follow us on social media for show notes, transcripts and highlights. Make sure to subscribe and tell a friend to listen to new episodes of After School Program released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

“Stop worrying, make a decision and learn from it.” Matt Duncan (@matthewduncs) has been a leader and planner at Overland Summers for the past 4 years, guiding domestic and international adventure trips for 4th-12th graders. He's a member of the U.S. National Guard and an avid bikepacker, having biked over 200 miles in a single day. In this episode we cover: The differences in solo vs. bikepacking with a group (11:59) Matt's run-in with a bear (20:30) How Matt used Craiglist to get a ride across the Canadian border (35:35) How studying abroad made Matt switch from a career in the army to one outdoors (1:11:50) What he's learned from traveling (2:01:00) Matt's advice to himself (2:08:38) Check out our website and follow us on social media. Make sure to subscribe and listen to new episodes of "After School Program" released every Tuesday at 5am EST! Intro music created by Muscle Tough. IG: @muscletoughband

How do successful young professionals navigate their careers and life after school? That's the question that Zach McHale, a former production associate at NBC News' "Stay Tuned" and Connor Heine, a Philadelphia sound engineer, are trying to find out as they dive into conversations with other young adults about how they approach life. You'll hear from a wide variety of backgrounds and industries as our friends provide us with their personal stories, insight and advice. New episodes every Tuesday at 5am. Make sure to subscribe! If you liked this podcast make sure to leave a quick review on Apple Podcasts. It really helps convince new listeners to check out the show. Visit asppod.com for show notes, transcripts & our blog. Follow us on social! IG: instagram.com/asppod YT: youtube.com/channel/afterschoolprogrampodcast