Narativ Storytalks

In this debrief episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan revisit a powerful moment from Episode 142 with Gary Danoff:“I've been laid off a number of times, and I used to have great shame about that. And now I have great pride and appreciation and acceptance of what it has taught me… Wealth can be measured in a lot of different ways… partly financial, and partly in wisdom and figuring things out.”Inspired by Gary's candor, Jerome and Julienne explore the transformative power of reframing difficult experiences—especially layoffs—as catalysts for personal and professional growth. They share personal stories that illustrate how setbacks often become the seeds of purpose, wisdom, and clarity in hindsight.You'll hear:Why origin stories rooted in adversity build credibility and trustHow sharing pain points, when done intentionally, can support othersJerome's own “bus of shame” layoff story—and the values it helped him uncoverThe underrated power of acknowledgment and appreciation in the workplaceWhy leaders should mine their past for stories that inspire and connectWhether you're navigating a professional transition or supporting others through change, this episode offers insight—and a dose of gratitude—for the unexpected lessons along the way.Narativ's online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

What if the secret to stronger workplace connections and higher engagement could be found in your mailbox?In this episode, Jerome and Julienne sit down with Amy Daughters—keynote speaker, author, and advocate of handwritten letters—as she shares the incredible journey that started with writing notes to a grieving acquaintance and led to a profound reconnection with over 600 Facebook friends.Amy tells a moving story about her father's unconventional summer camp rituals that taught her the power of being seen. That same power, she's discovered, lives in the simple act of a handwritten note. From three-sentence messages that employees keep for decades, to short acknowledgments that create champions out of coworkers and customers, Amy demonstrates how analog tools can solve digital-age problems—especially when it comes to leadership and employee engagement.Key Takeaways:Why handwriting someone a note may engage them more than any digital messageHow recognition—when made tangible—turns people into champions for your missionThe impact of vulnerability and authenticity in leadership communicationHow a handwritten culture can counteract disengagement and build lasting trustLinks to learn more and connect with Amy Daughters: Facebook LinkedInInstagramX - WebsiteNarativ's online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their conversation with Taylor Scott, author of Lead With Hospitality and the upcoming Give Hospitality. They dive deeper into a powerful quote from Taylor:“We love our favorite hospitality brands and destinations... nine times out of ten, it's because of how they make us feel... That's what I believe can transform mere jobs into truly meaningful work—when we as leaders can create environments where people feel the things they need to feel, so they spark and jump into action.”Drawing on their own stories, they explore what it really takes to foster that kind of workplace. Jerome recalls a surprising moment of mentorship during his early career in finance, while Julienne emphasizes the enduring power of respect and acknowledgement in professional environments. They highlight how small human gestures can make a big impact—and how sharing lived stories within an organization helps bring core values to life.Key TakeawaysMeaningful work is often created not by the task itself, but by how people are made to feel in the workplace.Leaders can turn values like “respect” into tangible experiences through small acts of appreciation and support.Storytelling helps surface and scale meaningful moments across teams, breaking silos and rebuilding connection.You don't need to overhaul your culture overnight—start with one value, one story, one human connection.Related Episodes and ResourcesEpisode 140: Leading with Hospitality – Interview with Taylor ScottLead With Hospitality by Taylor ScottNarativ's online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this powerful conversation, Jerome and Julienne speak with Dr. Neal Baer—award-winning television showrunner, physician, and educator—whose career has spanned medical dramas like ER and Law & Order: SVU to pioneering a graduate program at Harvard that fuses storytelling and health. Dr. Baer reflects on how his personal journey—particularly coming out later in life—has shaped the narratives he brings to the screen and the classroom.He shares stories about shaping public perceptions of HIV through characters on ER, introducing groundbreaking health messaging like U=U on Designated Survivor, and mentoring students who are transforming public health through narrative, art, and data.Key TakeawaysLeaders and storytellers can create change by pairing emotion with data and action.Personal stories and cultural context help bridge gaps in healthcare access and understanding.Great storytelling often emerges from personal struggle, risk, and lived experience.Storytelling is not just educational or entertaining—it's how we know we matterBooks by Neal Baer:The Promise and Peril of CRISPR – Buy on AmazonHealth & Storytelling Resources:Harvard Medical School's Master's Program in Media, Medicine, and HealthReferenced Work and Contributors:Under the Skin by Linda VillarosaNew York Times Magazine article by Villarosa on HIV in the U.S. SouthWildhood by Barbara Natterson-Horowitz and Kathryn BowersStuds Terkel – WorkingDoris Sommer – Professor at Harvard on narrative and social changeLearn More About Dr. Neal BaerHarvard Faculty Profile:ghsm.hms.harvard.edu/faculty-staff/neal-baerIn-Depth Interview:ghsm.hms.harvard.edu/interview-neal-baerConnect with Dr. Baer:LinkedInInstagramNarativ's online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this short debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on a powerful moment from their recent conversation with leadership expert Kevin Eikenberry. They explore how a single piece of advice or a simple question—delivered at just the right time—can shape the way we lead, communicate, and relate to others.Key ThemesThe lasting impact of simple, profound questionsMentorship moments that shape leadership philosophyThe importance of asking, not assumingWhy answers aren't always as powerful as the right questionsThe role of listening and pausing in group dynamics and storytellingStandout Quotes“How do you want to be received by your audience, and how do you want them to receive you?” – Robert Dickman (via Julienne)“You're a giant tractor moving a pebble. Simplify, simplify, simplify.” – Bob Fitzpatrick (via Jerome)“The answers are in the room. They'll surface if we give people a pause.” – Julienne Ryan“It's not about having all the answers—it's about the questions you ask.”Mentioned in This EpisodeRobert Dickman – storytelling consultant and authorNarativ's online course in partnership with New Mexico State University Global Campus:Lead With Your Story (self-paced, on-demand course)Podcast listeners get 25% off - Use code NARATIV → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan engage with Gary Danoff, an executive coach and former leader at Google and Microsoft. The conversation explores Gary's formative experiences, particularly his childhood insights into human behavior and communication. They delve into the challenges of career transitions, emphasizing the importance of reframing setbacks as opportunities. The discussion also highlights effective leadership strategies during turbulent times, advocating for personal connections and empathy in leadership roles. Gary shares inspiring stories from his coaching practice, illustrating the transformative power of storytelling and personal engagement in the workplace.Takeaways ~ Gary's childhood experiences shaped his understanding of human behavior.Reframing challenges can lead to new opportunities.Empathy is crucial in supporting clients through transitions.Leaders should engage personally with their teams during crises.Business is inherently personal, and leaders must connect on that level.Creating a safe environment fosters clarity and growth for clients.Career transitions can lead to unexpected and positive outcomes.Effective leaders lead from the front and show vulnerability.Storytelling is a powerful tool for leaders to connect with their teams.Networking and personal connections are vital in today's business landscape.LinkedIn    Email:        gary@garydanoff.com Podcast:  What's Next Now!Web:          www.garydanoff.comInsta:         @garydanoffParticipate in Narativ's Online Course: Lead With Your StoryLearn how to craft and communicate your leadership story.Self-paced, 100% online.Use code NARATIV for 25% off → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on a powerful insight from Anil Singhal about embracing inevitable disruption and using company values as a steadfast guide through change. The discussion opens with a personal question: When were you faced with disruption, and how did you respond?Julienne recalls witnessing corporate downsizing and restructuring—scenarios where clear communication and values-based leadership made all the difference. When leaders communicated transparently and demonstrated alignment with core values, they retained trust—and talent.Jerome shares a deeply personal story of disruption: the birth of his daughter during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. Unable to be present post-surgery due to hospital protocols, he found ways to take meaningful action from afar. This moment highlights how disruption often brings a feeling of helplessness, but even small, value-driven actions can have real impact.Together, they underscore the importance of not retreating during times of crisis, but instead leaning into core values, communicating openly, and finding productive paths forward—even in uncertainty. Key TakeawaysAccelerate, Don't Resist: When disruption is inevitable, facing it head-on and controlling the timeline can mitigate damage and build resilience.Double Down on Values: Values shouldn't fluctuate with circumstances. In fact, they become even more critical during times of upheaval.Transparent Communication Builds Trust: During organizational change, people need clarity. Silence and secrecy lead to fear, confusion, and loss of talent.Find Your Sphere of Influence: Even if you can't change the circumstances, meaningful actions within your control matter—for leaders and individuals alike.ResourcesLISTEN to the interview with Anil Singhal HEREAnil's BOOK ~ The 5% Rule of Leadership: Using Lean Decision-Making to Drive Trust, Ownership, and Team ProductivityParticipate in Narativ's Online Course: Lead With Your StoryLearn how to craft and communicate your leadership story.Self-paced, 100% online.Use code NARATIV for 25% off → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

Jerome and Julienne sat down with Taylor Scott—author, keynote speaker, and founder of Lead With Hospitality. Taylor brings over two decades of leadership experience from the hospitality and entertainment industries and shares how a moment at the beginning of his career planted the seeds for his leadership philosophy rooted in making people feel welcome, comfortable, and important.Key TakeawaysGreat leadership is rooted in humanness, not hierarchy.Emotional connection precedes effective management - which means leading with empathy.Simple plans, from feeding your team to learning someone's name, can radically shift culture.Organizational values to guide hiring, onboarding, and retention strategies.Vulnerability in leadership builds trust.Taylor's links  LinkedIn  Instagram  WebsiteBooksLead With HospitalityBallgames to Boardrooms Give Hospitality (July 8, 2025) ReferencesThe Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan HaidtSwitch: How to Change Things When Change is Hard by Chip & Dan HeathThe Power of Moments by Chip & Dan HeathThe Fred Factor by Mark SanbornLeadership Development Workshops and Edutainment Facilitation Training available at LeadWithHospitality.comSupport Relief Efforts:Maui Strong Fund – Hawaii Community FoundationAmerican Red Cross Disaster ReliefFREE ~ Action plans from both Lead With Hospitality and the upcoming Give Hospitality Participate in Narativ's Online Course: Lead With Your StoryLearn how to craft and communicate your leadership story.Self-paced, 100% online.Use code NARATIV for 25% off → Register Here Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. Please join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this debrief episode, Julienne and Jerome reflect on the thought-provoking conversation from Episode 133 with Carlo Odicino, who challenges the commonly accepted notion of "work-life balance." Carlo rejects the idea that work should be viewed as separate from life, arguing instead that we should strive for balance in life itself, integrating both work and non-work activities. Jerome and Julienne discuss the implications of this perspective, particularly for individuals working in purpose-driven industries like life sciences.Key Takeaways:Purpose and Passion in Work: Carlo's point about the connection between passion for one's work and the risk of burnout resonates, especially in fields like life sciences, where people are often deeply driven by a personal connection to their mission. Even in purpose-driven careers, the boundaries between work and personal life can blur, leading to challenges in maintaining balance.Life Balance, Not Work-Life Balance: The idea of life balance emphasizes that all aspects of life—work, family, health, and leisure—are interconnected. Finding a balance between these elements is essential, but it requires conscious effort and self-awareness.Burnout in Purpose-Driven Careers: Even in industries where people are passionate and driven by a sense of mission, burnout is a real concern. Jerome shares insights from a recent collaboration with a pharmaceutical company where storytelling was used as a strategy to combat burnout and foster a sense of appreciation among employees.Celebrating Achievements and Pausing: One approach to addressing burnout is taking intentional pauses to celebrate achievements, both big and small. Recognizing and appreciating the hard work of employees can go a long way in reducing stress and creating a more sustainable work culture.Using Stories to Foster Engagement: Sharing personal stories within an organization can help employees feel valued and connected to the larger mission. Storytelling, as seen in the example of the pharmaceutical company, creates a sense of belonging and reinforces the organization's values.Reflection Prompts:How do you currently manage the balance between your work and personal life?What boundaries (or lack thereof) do you see in your own life between work, rest, and other responsibilities?How can you create more space for celebration and pauses in your work culture to prevent burnout?Call to Action: Get 25% off our self-paced online course Lead With Your Story, created in partnership with NMSU Global CampusUse the code NARATIV at checkout. To learn to connect your past, your purpose, and your voice—and tell a story that moves people to action CLICK HERELearn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan welcome Kevin Eikenberry, Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group and author of Flexible Leadership: Navigate Uncertainty and Lead with Confidence. With over 30 years of experience developing leaders across the globe, Kevin brings fresh insight into what it takes to lead effectively in today's complex, ever-shifting workplace.This conversation goes beyond frameworks and titles. It's about mindset. Kevin shares how flexibility, paradox, and curiosity can be the keys to unlocking potential—in ourselves and others.You'll Hear:

In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Jennifer Langton, former NFL executive and champion of player safety, innovation, and ethical tech. They discuss how Jennifer's unique leadership style—grounded in empathy, curiosity, and continuous learning—led to groundbreaking work in AI and athlete health, and what we can all take from her example.At a time when tech often feels impersonal, Jennifer's story is a reminder that the most effective innovation happens when people are placed at the center.You'll Hear:

Hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy sit down with Anil Singhal, CEO and Co-founder of NETSCOUT and author of The 5% Rule of Leadership. With 40 years at the helm of a company that has grown from a startup to a billion-dollar enterprise, Anil brings a wealth of wisdom grounded in experience, fairness, and deeply held values.Anil shares the story behind his book and the powerful leadership framework it introduces: focus early effort on the most impactful decisions—the crucial 5% that drive 95% of outcomes. What begins as a principle becomes a company-wide approach that promotes empathy, trust, retention, and transparency across a global organization.You'll Hear:The Story Behind the 5% Rule – How Anil developed this concept over decades and why he uses it to mentor the next generation of leaders.Fairness as a Leadership Strategy – How fairness leads to better transparency, stronger culture, and better business results.The Power of Listening – Why defining problems clearly—before proposing solutions—builds alignment, trust, and efficiency.Human-Centered Succession Planning – How NETSCOUT is building its future through policies, alumni networks, and long-term values.Storytelling as a Leadership Tool – How shared stories and lived values are the key to knowledge transfer, employee engagement, and long-term success.Key Takeaways:Start with Values – Whether you're founding a company or leading through change, define and stick to your values—especially in tough times.Focus on the First 5% – Strategic preparation early on reduces wasted effort and improves long-term outcomes.Trust Multiplies Over Time – Invest in relationships early and avoid transactional behavior (like earn-outs) that can erode long-term commitment.Institutionalize What Works – Codify successful practices so they're scalable and repeatable, even after leadership transitions.Prioritize People – Start with happy employees. They create happy customers, which leads to happy shareholders.This episode is essential listening for any leader—whether you're building a startup or guiding a legacy company into the future.Resources:

In this special episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy step back from their usual format to address something that's on many people's minds—uncertainty. With rapid change, economic anxiety, and social division dominating conversations, they explore how we can approach difficult moments with intention, curiosity, and connection.This conversation is a raw and honest reflection on how we process change, find common ground with others, and build bridges in challenging times. Whether it's through personal reflection, seeking support, or simply stepping into a conversation with openness, this episode is an invitation to navigate uncertainty with purpose.You'll Hear:The Power of Self-Reflection – Why challenging our own assumptions can help us better engage with others in uncertain times.Navigating Fear and Anxiety – Understanding our natural responses to uncertainty—fight, flight, or freeze—and how to work through them.Leaning on Your Community – The importance of identifying supportive spaces and trusted individuals who provide judgment-free conversation.Finding Small Anchors in Conversations – How shared human experiences, even as simple as a comment about the weather or a shared hobby, can open the door to deeper connection.Moving Through the Unknown with Action – How small, intentional steps—whether through movement, self-care, or playfulness—can shift our mindset and help us navigate uncertainty with more confidence.Key Takeaways:Look Inward Before Looking Outward – Before engaging in difficult conversations, take time to understand your own assumptions and emotions.Find a Safe Space for Honest Dialogue – Whether it's a friend, mentor, or therapist, having a non-judgmental sounding board is invaluable.Reconnect with Playfulness and Creativity – Tapping into imagination and fun can help us envision a more positive future and take action toward it.Step into Conversations with Curiosity – Instead of avoiding difficult interactions, approach them with an open mind and a willingness to listen.Take Care of Yourself First – Movement, nature, and small grounding exercises can help shift from a place of fear to a place of possibility.We recorded this episode because, like many of you, we're processing a lot right now. If you're feeling uncertainty, we invite you to reflect, connect, and explore new ways of navigating change.Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their insightful conversation with Jeanne Martinet, author of The Art of Mingling and Mingling with the Enemy. Jeanne's expertise in social interaction and connection offers a refreshing perspective on how we approach conversations—whether at networking events, social gatherings, or even in workplace meetings.This episode explores the power of intention when entering social spaces, how shifting your mindset can change interactions, and the surprising link between storytelling and meaningful connections.You'll Hear:The Power of Intention – Why setting an intention before entering a social or professional situation can transform your experience.Reframing Social Anxiety – How shifting from a defensive mindset to one of openness and curiosity can make conversations more enjoyable.Fun as a Strategy – Why adopting a mindset of fun and playfulness can help break down barriers in social interactions.Lessons from Storytelling – How preparing for a conversation is similar to preparing to tell a compelling story—both require presence and awareness.Breaking Routines – The importance of stepping out of habitual ways of interacting and embracing the potential for surprise and discovery.Key Takeaways:Start with a Clear Intention – Before entering a conversation, ask yourself: What energy do I want to bring? How do I want to show up?Be Open to Surprise – Instead of assuming you know how an interaction will unfold, embrace discovery and let yourself be genuinely curious.Small Shifts Create Big Changes – Something as simple as walking into a room with a positive mindset can reshape the way others respond to you.Preparation Matters – Just as storytelling requires intentionality, so does effective mingling—approach interactions with thoughtfulness and purpose.Practice and Reflect – Try shifting your approach in social or work settings and take note of the results. What changed? How did people react?For those looking to enhance their ability to connect in any setting—whether at work, networking events, or social gatherings—this episode offers actionable insights and real-world strategies.Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Carlo Odicino, CEO and founder of One Team Partners. With over 24 years of experience scaling businesses—from Fortune 100 companies to early-stage startups—Carlo helps leaders bring their innovations to market without burning out.Carlo shares his player-coach approach to leadership, emphasizing the importance of self-management, creativity, and sustainable growth. Drawing from his experience in life sciences, entrepreneurship, and even high school theater direction, he reveals how leaders can balance ambition with well-being—and why the key to success isn't working more, but working smarter.You'll hear:

In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Lisa Hope Telstra and explore the art of navigating vulnerability in storytelling. They discuss the power of acknowledging emotions in real-time and how giving the audience guidance on how to receive a story can transform the experience for both the speaker and the listener.This episode is a reminder that storytelling—whether in a professional setting, a personal conversation, or on stage—is not just about what we say, but how we prepare our audience to engage with it.You'll Hear:

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Jennifer Langton, a dynamic business advisor, speaker, and former senior leader at the NFL and Atari. With a career spanning finance, sports, and AI-driven innovation, Jennifer shares her insights on transformational leadership, advocating for women in business, and the power of human connection in driving change.Jennifer's journey—from being a four-time All-American lacrosse player to spearheading groundbreaking health and safety initiatives at the NFL—is a testament to resilience, strategic thinking, and passion-driven leadership. She dives into how emerging technologies like AI and data analytics are shaping industries and why the human element remains irreplaceable in leadership and innovation.You'll hear:

In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Sona Sherratt (featured in Episode 125) and dive into the critical role storytelling plays in fostering belonging in the workplace. They explore how policies often fall short when they are disconnected from real human experiences and why sharing personal stories can bridge the gap between corporate initiatives and genuine inclusion.This episode is a call to action for leaders and organizations to move beyond checkbox diversity efforts and create spaces where employees' authentic experiences shape workplace culture.You'll Hear:

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Jeanne Martinet, bestselling author of The Art of Mingling and Mingling with the Enemy. Jeanne is a master of social dynamics, sharing insights on how to navigate conversations, avoid heated debates, and build meaningful connections—whether at a party, networking event, or family gathering.With humor and wisdom, Jeanne discusses the evolving challenges of social interactions in today's world and provides practical strategies for mingling with ease, even in politically or emotionally charged environments.You'll hear:

In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Sascha Schick, a former corporate executive turned startup leader. Sascha's journey from a high-powered corporate role to launching Any Help Now was inspired by a deeply personal moment with his son—a turning point that led him to rethink his priorities and embrace a new entrepreneurial path.This episode delves into the power of personal stories in leadership, the importance of feedback, and how origin stories shape company culture and individual career paths.You'll Hear:The Power of Honest Feedback – How Sascha's young son's simple yet profound request changed his career trajectory and reinforced the importance of listening.The Role of Personal Stories in Leadership – Why leaders should embrace and share their personal experiences to foster connection and drive change.Beyond the Founder Story – How employees at all levels can create and share their own narratives to align with and enhance a company's mission.Building Stronger Teams through Storytelling – How organizations can move beyond ‘us vs. them' mentalities by creating space for shared experiences and dialogue.Storytelling as a Tool for Career Growth – How finding and articulating your own story can help you gain clarity, build confidence, and navigate career transitions.Key Takeaways:Embrace Feedback as a Gift – Sometimes the most impactful insights come from unexpected sources, like Sascha's son, who helped him see his work-life balance in a new light.Everyone Has an Origin Story – Whether you're a founder, a new hire, or a seasoned employee, your personal connection to your work is just as valuable as a company's founding story.Stories Create Stronger Teams – Sharing personal experiences builds understanding and fosters collaboration, breaking down barriers between departments and leadership levels.Storytelling Enhances Communication – A well-told story can provide context, shift assumptions, and make workplace conversations more effective and engaging.Take the Leap of Faith – Whether it's starting a new venture or rethinking your role within a company, stepping outside your comfort zone often leads to the most meaningful growth.For those looking to harness the power of storytelling in leadership and career development, this episode offers rich insights and actionable ideas.Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome the insightful and inspiring Lisa Hope Tilstra, coach, facilitator, podcast host, and global expert on emotional intelligence. Lisa shares her experiences working across cultures, coaching individuals from over 25 countries, and facilitating transformative workshops in 40+ countries. She is also the creator of the Make Life Less Difficult podcast, which celebrates the power of storytelling to foster connection and resilience.This episode is a heartfelt and thought-provoking conversation about the impact of emotional intelligence, vulnerability, and storytelling on personal growth and leadership.You'll hear:The Genesis of ‘Make Life Less Difficult': How a quote from George Eliot shaped Lisa's philosophy and her approach to coaching, facilitating, and podcasting.The Role of Stories in Navigating Life's Challenges: Why sharing and listening to stories helps create connection, resilience, and a sense of belonging.Choosing the Right Story at the Right Time: Lisa explains the difference between sharing stories from scars versus wounds and how to create safe spaces for storytelling.Cross-Cultural Lessons from a Global Career: A paradigm-shifting moment in Cambodia helped Lisa reframe how she engages with different cultures and perspectives.The Importance of Presence and Listening: How being fully present and acknowledging others' experiences can transform relationships and help make life less difficult.Key Takeaways:The Power of Acknowledgement: Whatever someone is going through, validating their experience is a fundamental way to support them.Storytelling Creates Connection: Sharing stories allows people to feel seen, heard, and understood, helping them move through challenges.Sadness as a Superpower: Embracing emotions like sadness can lead to healing, transformation, and deeper joy.Global Perspectives Matter: Simple acts, like multilingual signs, can communicate care and inclusion, especially in diverse environments.Resources:Make Life Less Difficult Podcast and website – Lisa's platform for storytelling and connectionThe Art of Gathering by Priya Parker – A resource mentioned during the episode for creating meaningful spaces.Lisa's LinkedInMake Life Less Difficult Instagram Learn about Lisa's storytelling retreats in Tuscany and virtual workshops at The Story Academy website.Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their engaging conversation with Alex Smith, a dynamic thought leader on sales and persuasion. Alex's perspective, rooted in Dan Pink's To Sell Is Human, challenges traditional notions of sales by focusing on human connection, active listening, and storytelling as key elements of persuasion and influence.This episode offers a fresh take on how storytelling can transform everyday interactions into opportunities for authentic connection and meaningful change.You'll Hear:The Misconceptions of Sales: Exploring the negative perceptions of sales and how to reframe it as guiding change rather than pushing for a transaction.The Power of Listening: Why listening is the foundation for building trust, understanding, and crafting a compelling story.Sales as Storytelling: Insights into how the best sales approaches integrate authentic, mission-driven narratives that resonate with people's needs.Shifting the Dynamic: How to disrupt formulaic sales tactics by fostering curiosity, asking thoughtful questions, and creating space for open conversations.Relatability Matters: Examples of how relatable, well-crafted stories can turn sales interactions into meaningful exchanges.Overcoming Negative Sales Connotations: Using empathy and possibility-focused language to create positive, lasting impressions.Key Takeaways:Reframe Sales as Change: Understand that persuasion is about guiding someone toward change, which applies universally in both personal and professional contexts.Start with Listening: Effective storytelling and sales begin with deeply understanding your audience through active listening and curiosity.Build Trust through Authenticity: Use personal and mission-driven stories to establish genuine connections that go beyond transactional goals.Practice Patience: Sales and storytelling require trust, openness, and time; the "close" often happens over a series of conversations.Be Generous with Knowledge: Sharing insights, resources, and stories builds goodwill and credibility, making you a trusted partner.Listen for actionable ideas on how to integrate storytelling into sales, leadership, and everyday life. Visit narativ.com to explore resources, training programs, and coaching opportunities to transform your storytelling approach. Whether you're leading a team or building client relationships, this episode provides tools to foster connection and inspire change.Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome back Sona Sherratt, a distinguished faculty member at Ashridge and a doctoral candidate at the University of Cambridge. Sona's work on psychological safety and unwritten organizational rules offers a profound exploration of how these dynamics impact workplace inclusivity and belonging.Drawing on over 90 hours of interviews and years of experience designing executive education programs, Sona shares compelling insights into the cultural norms and biases that shape organizational behavior and what leaders can do to create authentic and inclusive work environments.This episode is filled with transformative ideas, heartfelt stories, and practical strategies for fostering trust and psychological safety at every level of an organization.You'll Hear:Insights from Sona's research: How unwritten organizational rules influence psychological safety and disproportionately affect women and minorities.Lessons from personal experiences: Sona's moving story about her daughter's encounter with bias and how it inspired her doctoral work on equality and inclusion.The role of vulnerability: Why humility and curiosity are essential traits for leaders to foster belonging and trust within teams.Practical strategies for leaders: How to create a culture of dissent, ensure equal participation, and build trust through meaningful connections.Small actions with big impact: Techniques like amplifying unheard voices in meetings, offering pre-meeting agendas for inclusivity, and creating spaces for genuine dialogue.Key Takeaways:Ask for Dissent: Encourage diverse viewpoints and actively seek alternative perspectives to enrich decision-making.Foster Equal Turn-Taking: Create space for everyone to contribute, especially those who may hesitate to speak up.Practice Authenticity: Move beyond surface-level DEI initiatives by addressing real employee needs with genuine care and intention.Embrace Vulnerability: Leaders who admit they don't have all the answers invite collaboration and build deeper trust.Pay Attention to Small Moments: Inclusion happens in everyday actions, from body language in meetings to language use in informal conversations.Resources:Learn more about Sona Sherratt's work at Ashridge and her research on psychological safety: Ashridge Executive Education.Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their inspiring conversation with Pearl Alexander, a longtime leader at Georgia Tech. Pearl's innovative use of the “I Am” poem and her approach to introducing oneself beyond titles and roles sparked a lively discussion on disrupting assumptions and fostering authentic connections.This episode brims with actionable ideas and strategies for creating spaces where people feel seen, valued, and inspired to engage fully.You'll Hear:How Pearl's unique introduction method invites creativity and self-expression, moving beyond traditional titles and bios.The importance of storytelling in owning and sharing your identity in your own voice.Techniques to shift how others perceive and listen to you through vulnerability and creativity.Julienne shares examples from her HR experience, including using personal anecdotes and visual cues to break down barriers.Jerome and Julienne highlight the value of setting the tone with authentic stories to foster trust and openness.How relatability and human connection help participants feel safe to share their own truths.Tips on integrating personal stories, metaphors, or analogies into professional settings to keep audiences engaged.The importance of testing new techniques with diverse audiences to refine your approach.Key Takeaways:Start with Creativity: Disrupt assumptions by introducing yourself in a fresh, personal way, like an “I Am” poem.Be Vulnerable: Sharing your truth helps create a relatable, safe environment for deeper connections.Practice and Refine: Experiment with your storytelling approach, gathering feedback to ensure it resonates.Focus on the Human Element: Move beyond the resume to build trust and engage meaningfully with others.Tune in to this reflective conversation and learn how small storytelling risks can yield significant rewards in building trust and connectionLearn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Sascha Schick, a seasoned entrepreneur, business informatics specialist, and family man who has successfully transitioned from a global corporate leadership role to founding his own company, Any Help Now. Sascha's journey from corporate comfort to entrepreneurial innovation is filled with lessons about bravery, trust, and the power of family.This episode is rich with inspiring stories, actionable insights, and reflections on how personal and professional values intersect to drive meaningful change.You'll Hear:How a heartfelt conversation with his six-year-old son motivated Sascha to leave his global role at Amcor and start his own business, bringing him closer to his family while pursuing his entrepreneurial dreams.Sascha's candid reflections on balancing ambition with family priorities, including his promise to have dinner with his family every evening at 6 PM despite a demanding work schedule.The vision behind creating a platform that simplifies access to services, bridging gaps in the market and emphasizing trust, transparency, and quality.How Sascha combined elements of Amazon, Uber, and Booking.com to create an innovative, user-friendly service marketplace.Why leaving a secure corporate job is not just about risk, but about redefining purpose and embracing new challenges.The power of assembling an "A-Team" of trusted colleagues to build a successful startup.Key Takeaways:Trust the Process: Whether it's assembling the right team or committing to an entrepreneurial venture, trust and collaboration are essential for success.Align Personal and Professional Goals: Sascha's story highlights how aligning values with actions can lead to deeper fulfillment and stronger connections.Family First: Incorporating family values into professional decisions can lead to a more balanced and meaningful life.Be Open to Change: Regularly reassess your goals and comfort zones to ensure they align with your evolving aspirations.Resources:Any Help Now: Learn more about Sascha's innovative service platform and how it's transforming the way people access trusted services: https://anyhelpnow.com/Sascha Schick on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahn-saschas/Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this special episode of Leadership Story Talks, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan explore the metaphorical and literal significance of boxes in a conversation titled "Unpacking Boxes." Inspired by Julienne's long-standing curiosity about Jerome's bookshelf boxes, they delve into the symbolism, stories, and personal growth tied to what we choose to keep, store, and revisit in our lives.Highlights from the Conversation:A Personal Anecdote: Jerome shares the story of receiving a closed box from the founders of Narativ, which ultimately led to his role as CEO. The box symbolized potential, discovery, and the bravery to open new chapters.The Power of Questions: Julienne reflects on the transformative power of asking simple yet profound questions, which often lead to unexpected insights and connections.Mental and Emotional Boxes: The stories and beliefs we carry can act as "boxes" that hold us back or propel us forward. Revisiting these internal boxes can reveal hidden strengths and opportunities.Physical Boxes: Objects we store often carry emotional weight, acting as time capsules that connect us to past experiences and inspire future directions.Key Takeaways:Ask the Right Questions: Curiosity can lead to profound discoveries about ourselves and others.Embrace the Uncertainty of Unpacking: Whether literal or metaphorical, opening a box requires bravery and can lead to unexpected growth.Use Storytelling to Explore: Stories provide a safe and structured way to unpack and make sense of the contents of our boxes.Let Go When Needed: Sometimes, it's necessary to close a box and move on to a new chapter in life.By exploring the boxes we carry—both physical and metaphorical—we can uncover new insights, foster connections, and unlock potential for growth. Tune in to this reflective episode and consider what boxes in your life are ready to be opened, repurposed, or finally closed.Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Alex Smith, a seasoned sales professional, podcast host, and advocate for human-centered connection in business. With over 18 years of experience in sales, including roles in EdTech software and door-to-door sales, Alex brings a refreshing perspective on the transformative power of authenticity and empathy in professional relationships. He also hosts the podcast Sell by Being Human, where he explores how sales can be a force for connection and growth.This episode is rich with engaging stories, actionable insights, and thought-provoking reflections on how storytelling and human connection can reshape the way we approach leadership and sales.You'll hear:Alex's Sales Journey: From selling catalogs door-to-door as a child to becoming a top-ranked sales professional, Alex shares how curiosity and resilience shaped his career.Reframing Sales Through Humanity: Alex challenges the stereotypes of salespeople, emphasizing the role of empathy, curiosity, and understanding in fostering genuine connections.The Role of Storytelling in Sales: Why aligning stories to the listener's experiences can transform the conversation and build trust.Personal Growth Through Adversity: Alex reflects on pivotal moments, including personal loss, that shaped his approach to life, work, and gratitude.Lessons From Family: Heartfelt stories of Alex's father, a teacher and storyteller, who inspired his belief in the power of human connection.Key Takeaways:Selling as Human: Sales is about guiding someone toward change, built on mutual understanding and respect—not manipulation or pressure.The Power of Stories: Crafting relatable narratives and asking insightful questions can break down barriers and foster meaningful connections.Curiosity is Key: Genuine curiosity helps leaders and professionals create trust, credibility, and alignment in their interactions.Gratitude and Resilience: Embracing gratitude, even during challenging times, can inspire growth and a deeper connection to one's purpose.Resources:Alex's Podcast: Sell by Being Human – where Alex explores the art of sales through the lens of human connection. Books Mentioned: To Sell is Human by Daniel Pink – a foundational resource on the humanity of sales.Alex Smith's profile on LinkedinAlex Smith's YouTube ChannelTune in to this inspiring conversation and discover how embracing humanity and storytelling can transform your approach to sales, leadership, and connection!Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this short debrief episode, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on their recent interview with Nadine Keller, exploring the powerful idea of how jargon can hinder connection and trust. They discuss the ways storytelling can bridge gaps in understanding and make communication more human and impactful.Highlights from the Conversation:The Pitfalls of Jargon: How overuse of corporate speak and acronyms can alienate listeners, even when intentions are good. Research shows that excessive jargon undermines trust and makes messages harder to process.Storytelling as a Remedy: Stories can help clarify complex concepts, break down acronyms, and make values and initiatives more relatable and memorable.Real-World Examples: Jerome shares insights from facilitating a program for the State Department, where personal stories added depth and humanity to abstract terms like "gender-based violence."Julienne's Recruiting Perspective: She reflects on how buzzwords and jargon often got in the way of meaningful conversations, and how asking simple, human-centered questions helped uncover the real impact of workplace challenges.Key Takeaways:Simplify to Connect: Use conversational language and real examples to communicate effectively and foster trust.Illuminate Acronyms with Stories: Explain values and initiatives with relatable stories to make them universally understood.Check Your Assumptions: Focus on listening and asking questions to truly understand the experiences of others.By replacing jargon with genuine, human stories, we can create stronger connections, inspire trust, and foster deeper understanding. Tune in and learn how storytelling can transform communication in both personal and professional settings!Learn more about how to leverage Narativ's storytelling method for your pitch and sales team: Download our free e-book, or you're welcome to schedule a free 15-minute call with Jerome. We encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome the inspiring Pearl Alexander, JD, a transformational leader in organizational culture and higher education. Pearl shares her remarkable journey from her early career in HR at Georgia Tech to her influential work in fostering inclusion and belonging. With over 35 years of experience, Pearl has catalyzed meaningful cultural transformations and empowered leaders to create thriving workplaces.This episode is brimming with profound insights, authentic stories, and actionable advice for leaders, professionals, and anyone interested in building inclusive and resilient organizational cultures.You'll hear:Pearl's Journey to Georgia Tech: How personal challenges as a young parent led Pearl to a fulfilling career in HR and culture building.The Power of Storytelling in Leadership: Why storytelling is a crucial tool for inclusion, connection, and fostering a sense of belonging.Owning Your Truth: Pearl's reflections on embracing life's defining moments, including personal loss, to inspire growth, resilience, and leadership development.Transforming Leadership at Georgia Tech: Insights from the creation of the Inclusive Leaders Academy and its transformative impact on leaders and culture.The Role of Vulnerability in Leadership: Why exploring emotions, personal narratives, and self-awareness is essential for fostering authentic leadership and overcoming challenges.Key Takeaways:How storytelling serves as an act of inclusion, enabling leaders to create trust and connection.The importance of self-awareness and owning one's story to inspire personal and professional growth.Strategies for leaders to create psychologically safe environments that encourage authenticity and collaboration.Practical ways to integrate belonging and inclusion into leadership practices.Resources:Learn more about Leadership Story Talks and other storytelling programs at Narativ.com.Discover Brene Brown's Dare to Lead curriculum, a cornerstone of Pearl's leadership training programs.Pearl on Linkedin.Producers and Organizers (PRO SIG) - National Storytelling Network: National Association of Black Storytellers:Tune in to this heartfelt conversation and discover how the art of storytelling can transform leadership, connect teams, and inspire change!Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this short debrief episode, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on a key moment from their interview with Kory Kogon of FranklinCovey, discussing the lasting impact of The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. They delve into one of the book's foundational ideas: the power of assumptions and how storytelling can help us challenge and overcome them.Highlights from the Conversation:The Influence of Assumptions: How we unconsciously create stories about others and how those narratives can hinder our ability to connect and empathize.Storytelling as a Tool for Empathy: A powerful story reveals the importance of context in fostering understanding and breaking down assumptions.Practical Applications in Leadership: Jerome shares a compelling story about confronting assumptions while facilitating a leadership workshop, highlighting the courage required to address behaviors that can erode trust within a team.Julienne's Perspective on Personal Bias: She discusses how personal history and cultural influences shape our assumptions and how to consciously set them aside to improve listening.Key Takeaways:Check Your Assumptions: Be mindful of the narratives you create about others and challenge them with curiosity.Context is Key: Understanding the "why" behind someone's actions can transform your perspective.The Art of Listening: Identifying what gets in the way of listening is essential for effective communication and fostering trust.Simple actions, like being mindful of our assumptions and practicing curiosity, can significantly improve workplace dynamics and personal relationships. Keep listening, learning, and connecting!Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy sit down with Nadine Keller, founder and CEO of Precision Sales Coaching and Training. With over 18 years of experience developing strategic programs for sales professionals and empowering women entrepreneurs, Nadine shares her inspiring journey and valuable insights on storytelling, sales, and entrepreneurship.This episode is packed with actionable advice and heartfelt stories, making it a must-listen for entrepreneurs, sales professionals, and anyone passionate about storytelling and leadership. You'll hear:- Nadine's Story: From a career at Chase Manhattan Bank to launching her own consulting firm, Nadine reveals how pivotal moments shaped her professional path, including the creation of the Precision Sales Accelerator to support women entrepreneurs.- The Power of Storytelling in Sales: Discover how personal, relatable stories can transform sales presentations, create connections, and lead to success in competitive environments.- Breaking Barriers for Women Entrepreneurs: Nadine highlights challenges like imposter syndrome, underpricing, and achieving work-life balance, offering actionable advice for overcoming these obstacles.- Human Connection Over Corporate Jargon: Why ditching jargon and focusing on human connection leads to more effective communication and trust in business.- Lessons from Loss: Nadine shares how a personal tragedy inspired her mission to create a meaningful legacy by helping others find balance and joy in their entrepreneurial journeys.Key Takeaways:- How to create an irresistible sales offer that resonates with clients by making it "all about them."- The importance of leaning into empathy and collaboration during sales conversations.- The role of community and support in sustaining entrepreneurial success.- Practical insights on overcoming fear, staying focused, and building a thriving business while maintaining personal fulfillment.Resources:- Learn more about Nadine's work at precisionsalescoaching.com- Explore the Precision Accelerator program designed for women entrepreneurs:  www.precisionsalescoaching.com/accelerator- Access Nadine's fear assessment tool to identify and tackle fears holding you back.Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

RECORDED 11.11.2024In this special episode of *Leadership Story Talks*, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan explore the power of connection in uncertain times. Reflecting on recent events, they discuss how storytelling can be a bridge to understanding and connection, even when we hold differing perspectives. Jerome and Julienne share practical advice on fostering meaningful conversations by listening without judgment, grounding ourselves, and remembering to breathe.They emphasize the importance of small, intentional acts of connection, whether it's speaking openly with a trusted friend or finding common ground with family. Drawing insights from Dr. Ruth Westheimer's "The Joy of Connections" they offer tips on how to approach holiday gatherings and challenging discussions with empathy and patience. Tune in for an episode filled with thoughtful guidance on how to connect, listen, and build a foundation of respect and trust in all your interactions.Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Julienne and Jerome debrief a previous conversation with Jennifer Gardner. Discussing the impact and techniques of storytelling in professional settings, They connect storytelling to leadership, particularly in delivering difficult messages. They share a story about a leader who used a personal journey metaphor to introduce a challenging topic, which helped her team engage more openly with finding solutions. This episode emphasizes the importance of staying present after sharing a story to gather the valuable feedback that emerges.Jerome and Julienne underline that storytelling is not an innate skill for everyone but a craft that can be learned, with Narativ offering training programs to help individuals refine their storytelling abilities. For those interested in mastering storytelling, Narativ offers resources and one-on-one coaching to support this journey.Tune in to learn how storytelling can become a transformative tool for leadership and team connection.LISTEN to the full podcast HEREFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this insightful episode of Leadership Story Talks, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan are joined by Kory Kogon, Vice President of Content Development at FranklinCovey and senior leadership consultant. Kory shares her perspective on FranklinCovey's principles, focusing on the timeless impact of Stephen Covey's "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" and its newly updated course. She explains the importance of the "maturity continuum," from dependence to independence and interdependence, and how these stages are critical to personal and professional growth.Listeners will discover:- Why the principles in "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" remain relevant, especially in today's changing world.- How storytelling and empathy play crucial roles in building trust within teams and organizations.- How the FranklinCovey courses, designed with engaging videos and real-life scenarios, help individuals and teams implement principles to create impactful changes.- How leaders can prepare for challenges like AI and automation by developing "power skills" like emotional intelligence and adaptability.- Kory's insights into "Habit 7: Sharpen the Saw" as a fundamental practice for sustained personal and professional effectiveness.Whether you're new to the principles of FranklinCovey or a seasoned leader looking for inspiration, Kory's perspective will provide actionable steps for growth in any environment.Helpful Links:- The Seven Habits course link from FranklinCovey - Kory Kogon at FranklinCovey Speakers Bureau- FranklinCovey on Twitter - FranklinCovey on Facebook - FranklinCovey on LinkedIn - FranklinCovey on YouTube- FranklinCovey on Instagram This episode dives into how timeless principles drive behavior change and better relationships, offering listeners an opportunity to rethink and transform their own leadership journeys. Enjoy listening!Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this debrief episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan dive into a memorable excerpt from a previous conversation with Kaila Lim. They reflect on Kaila's perspective about how storytelling often outshines a traditional resume in the tech industry. Kaila emphasizes the importance of conveying your value and experiences through authentic storytelling, rather than relying solely on a document. Julienne shares her own insights on how storytelling helps uncover what truly drives individuals, making connections that go beyond the resume. Tune in to explore how these ideas can enhance team building, hiring, and even personal career journeys.Community “Hire Me” Page Kaila created to blast to the world to find her next roleKaila's Personal Blog for Kaila's writingKaila's Quora for more personal storiesKaila's LinkedIn to keep up to dateAntler for any founders who want to apply to their upcoming ResidencyFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this insightful episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Jennifer B. Gardner, a Los Angeles-based trial lawyer, educator, and part-time administrative law judge, to explore the themes of persuasive communication, storytelling, and leadership. Jennifer shares her journey through high-stakes litigation, discussing how storytelling has been a powerful tool in her career.Key Topics:The Power of Storytelling in Law: Jennifer reflects on her early legal career and how storytelling helped her win cases even when she lacked deep technical knowledge. She emphasizes the emotional connection that stories create with juries and clients.Influence and Persuasion: Jennifer explains the science behind influence, linking it to emotional connections. She shares insights on how storytelling taps into the right brain, enhancing suggestibility and emotional resonance, which is key to persuasion.Emotional Intelligence in Leadership: Leaders must hone their emotional intelligence (EQ) to influence and inspire others. Jennifer discusses the importance of listening deeply, connecting authentically, and regulating emotions to drive results.Lessons from Acting and Improv: Jennifer delves into how her experience in acting and improv helped her become a better communicator, teaching her how to ground emotions and speak from an authentic place in high-pressure environments.The Power Lab: Jennifer introduces her program, "The Power Lab," which focuses on teaching high performers how to manage stress, regulate emotions, and enhance their persuasive communication skills in challenging situations.Main Takeaways:Storytelling is a critical tool for influence, whether in the courtroom or the boardroom. Connecting emotionally with your audience can lead to more persuasive and impactful communication.Emotional intelligence is essential for leadership. Effective leaders listen deeply, express empathy, and connect on a human level to inspire and engage others.Authenticity and emotional grounding are key in high-stakes communication, allowing professionals to connect with their audience and deliver messages with confidence.Tune in to hear Jennifer's inspiring journey and learn practical techniques to improve your communication and leadership skills through storytelling and emotional intelligence.Links: WEBSITECONTACT INFO: jgardner@jgardnerassociates.com Facebook Instagram LinkedIn Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this insightful debrief episode, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on their interview with Cecilia Loving and Gina Leow focusing on their powerful approach to leading diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Without ever using buzzwords like "DEI," Cecilia in particular shared how she successfully connected with her toughest audience—members of the FDNY. Julienne and Jerome talk about the power of listening, moving beyond labels, a real world application, and storytelling in leadership. Listen to the full podcast interview HEREFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode, Jerome and Julienne sit down with Kaila Lim, Founder Experience Lead at Antler NYC. Kaila shares her career journey from finance to tech startups, discussing the power of storytelling in personal and professional development. She emphasizes the importance of community-building and recounts how vulnerability and resilience shaped her path, especially through pivotal experiences like the transition from a corporate to a startup environment.Tune in for insights on career pivots, storytelling, and the value of authentic connections in the tech space.Notes:Community "Hire Me" Page Kaila created to blast to the world to find her next roleKaila's Personal Blog for Kaila's writingKaila's Quora for more personal storiesKaila's LinkedIn to keep up to dateAntler for any founders who want to apply to their upcoming Residency Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss the work of Curtis Bateman and his expertise on change in the workplace.Listen to their discussion with Curtis in Episode #106Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

“You can even have circles where there's no talking whatsoever, but just the simple and full act of listening and being present for one another.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Cecilia Loving and Gina Leow, two leaders in diversity and inclusion at PBS. Cecilia, Senior Vice President, and Gina, Director of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, bring years of experience in fostering belonging and building trust. Together, they co-authored the book Connecting Through Circles, which focuses on using circle practices to promote healing, restorative justice, emotional intelligence, and community cohesion.Cecilia shares how storytelling has shaped her work as a theologian and lawyer, and how the concept of circles has become central to her approach in creating healing spaces. They explain the structure of circle processes, including the use of a talking piece and the importance of listening and presence, and how circles create a space where participants can share openly or remain in silence, fostering inclusivity and understanding.Tune in to explore how silence, storytelling, and the simple act of passing a talking stick can transform group dynamics and help build stronger, more empathetic communities—both in-person and virtually! NotesOrder their book “Connecting Through Circles” hereYou can also order Cecilia Loving's other works: The Power of Inclusion: Meditating with Compassion,Healing with Generosity, Leading with Love; UNBROKEN CIRCLES: Holding Space, Finding Forgiveness and Transcending Edges. Cecilia Loving and Gina Leow also publish online resources, including Courageous Conversations, which can be downloaded for free.Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss the work of disability advocate Katherine Carol with her daughter Mikelle and their community at The Shining Beautiful Series.Listen to their discussion with Katherine in Episode #103The Shining Beautiful PodcastFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

"The journey of change is important. And the goal isn't to eliminate that journey"In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan welcome back Curtis Bateman, best-selling co-author of "Change: How to Turn Uncertainty into Opportunity" and Vice President of Direct International Offices for Franklin Covey. With over 24 years in the training industry, Curtis shares his insights on navigating change, leveraging storytelling, and fostering a culture of ownership and connection within organizations. He talks about the four zones of change: Status Quo, Disruption, Adoption, and Innovation, and teaches practical tools and leadership behaviors to guide your team through these stages. Curtis also introduces the three C's framework—Connection, Collaboration, and Change—to address the challenges of remote and hybrid work environments.Join us as we delve into the role of storytelling in change management, the importance of celebrating progress, and the power of creating a culture that encourages individual ownership and proactive communication. NotesLearn more about Curtis Bateman(Pre)order the book hereFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss a collaborative book project, Echoes of Humanity, that Kelly collated and to which both Jerome and Julienne contributed. Listen to their discussion with Kelly Markey in Episode #104 KellyMarkey.comFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Kelly Markey, an eight-time international bestselling author and passionate advocate for social justice and equality. Kelly's book, "Life of Jayandra," won the top book of the year award in 2024 for Suicide Awareness, and will be showcased on a New York City Times Square billboard on September 6, 2024. As the CEO and founder of Markey Writing Academy and Beacon of Hope, Kelly is dedicated to uplifting narratives and empowering voices to inspire positive social change.Jerome and Julienne delve into Kelly's journey, discussing the genesis of her book, "Echoes of Humanity," and the powerful stories within it that aim to spark introspection and tangible change. Kelly shares her criteria for selecting contributors and the impact these stories have had on her and her community. They also explore the broader implications of storytelling in advocating for mental health, disability, and social justice, emphasizing the transformative power of lived experiences.Kelly opens up about her personal experiences, including the profound impact of losing her brother to suicide, which has fueled her mission to advocate for a better world. The episode concludes with insights into the upcoming launch events for Kelly's books and a call to action for listeners to engage with these powerful narratives.@KellyMarkeyAuthorPublisherKelly's links ~YouTube FacebookInstagram @author_kelly_markey_LinkedInIf you or someone you know is suicidal, call one of the numbers in this link. If someone is in IMMEDIATE danger, please call your local emergency number (e.g. 911 in the US).Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, Jerome and Julienne welcome Katherine Carol, a recognized expert by the US Department of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy. Katherine shares her extensive career in helping individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities secure employment, find necessary resources, and creatively navigate complex systems.She also discusses her personal experiences raising her daughter Mikelle, who has special needs and is nonverbal. Together, Katherine and Mikelle host the Shining Beautiful Series podcast, which focuses on the power of storytelling and advocacy for people with disabilities.Katherine emphasizes the importance of choosing your story and legacy as a leader, the role of storytelling in driving action, and the need for curiosity and empathy when interacting with people with disabilities. She also highlights the impact of technology, including AI, on the disability community and the importance of including diverse stories in the digital landscape.NOTES on this episode:As leaders, we have a responsibility to choose our story and legacyKatherine and Julienne have worked together on advocacy storytelling for advocacy workshopKatherine's mother was a special ed teacher back in the late fortiesThe question of what Katherine would like people to do more of when they're interacting with you?Mike McCall started podcasting about grief for people with disabilitiesWe talked a lot about storytelling and how to tell your storyFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss walls  - real and imagined - after their discussion with Laura Miller in Episode #99Next Gen EthicsFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comWe encourage you to join our mailing list to stay updated on all our latest episodes and events. EMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

After last weeks very successful Leadership Story Talks 100th episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about the power of the stories told by nine of their returning guests.#leadership #storytelling #listeningListen to the 100th episode here ~bit.ly/NarativWebsite_100 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comEMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

For our 100th episode, Leadership Story Talks was streamed LIVE on Youtube. Jerome & Julienne invited nine previous guests to tell a personal story based on a person or event that shaped who they are today. The guests in this extended podcast are:1. Kevin Griffin - singer-songwriter, musician, festival founder LINKSWebsiteFacebookInstagram2. Anne Bahr Thompson  - Superbrands Branding Leader, a Trust Across America Top Thought Leader and a GCPIT Global Woman in Leadership LINKS Do Good, website, LinkedIn3. Derek McCracken ~ Health Equity ActivistLINKSNarrative MedicineNarrative MindworksSay-AhIntellus4. Anna Vafeiadou ~ Environmental Lawyer in Greece for the World Wildlife Fund LINKSLinkedIn  5. Park Howell - The Business of StoryLINKSLinkedInTwitterFacebookInstagramYouTube6. Jodie Brockington ~ Culture Futurist and founder of BLENDiD LINKSInstagramLinkedIn7. Pernilla Rorso ~ specializing in national and organizational culture LINKSLinkedIn8. Alex Seiler ~ global people leader, start up advisor, mental health and DEI champion. LINKSLinkedIn9. Amy Bach ~ CEO of Measures for Justice LINKSMeasure for JusticeLinkedInFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comEMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

“Walls don't always look like what you think they do. Sometimes walls look like a no. Sometimes walls look like a oh heck no (...) and sometimes walls just look like we haven't been able to imagine it a different way (...) But once you start getting more familiar with walls, you start recognizing which kind you're finding. And then once you understand why the wall is there, you know exactly what to pick at in order to test it, challenge it, and then you can change it or pull it down.”In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Laura Miller. Laura is the founder and CEO of NextGen Ethics, where she focuses on advancing ethical AI innovation and public trust. She is also a respected philosophy and ethics instructor at Webster University. Her contributions to tech ethics have earned her recognition from NASA, NIST, and the US State Department, and is also the author of the upcoming book "AI Ethics in Action." She tells the story of her philosophy professor running into a wall and shows how ethics runs into walls and how AI does too. They talk about whether or not AI can be like a human, whether AI only learns from humans or humans might also learn from AI, and how we need to be intentional about how we develop AI. Listen to this episode to dive deeper into the ethics and philosophical questions behind the development and use of AI, and learn a lot about running into walls, or breaking them, in the process!  Notes* Learn more about Laura's work here* Connect with Laura on LinkedIn* Find Laura on Instagram, X, YouTube and Spotify as ‘VoiceofAIEthics'Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comEMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests.In this episode they discuss the 'business of story' after their discussion with Park Howel from The Business of Story in Episode #97 Park Howel's website Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comEMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here

"Why does this one work? And why is this one an utter failure? Well, it turned out this one actually had a story structure of set up, problem, and resolution to it, and told a story intuitively"In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Park Howell, who is known as the world's most industrious storyteller, having grown purpose-driven brands by as much as 600%. He's an Emmy Award-winning 35+ year veteran of the advertising industry, and hosts the popular weekly Business of Story podcast. He is also the author of Brand Bewitchery and co-authored The Narrative Gym for Business. After telling Jerome and Julienne about how his career in marketing and his son's studies brought him to storytelling, Jerome then asks Park to explain how his storytelling method works. However, instead of explaining it to them, Park decides to walk them through it by creating a story about this podcast. He uses the ABT method he developed, proving that storytelling works.This episode is not just a conversation; it's a practical masterclass in storytelling. Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from a master storyteller!  Notes* Learn more about Park here* Listen to Park's podcast here* Find Park's book here* Visit the Business of Story website hereFind out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method atnarativ.comEMAIL Jerome@narativ.comLINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/company/narativ-incTWITTER @narativBuy Julienne's book here